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In the criminal justice system, the
people are represented by two separate
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equally important groups.
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The police who investigate crime and the
district attorneys who prosecute the
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offenders. These are their stories.
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People accuse you of being ruthless in
your investment philosophy, especially
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considering... I'm the only one keeping
these companies honest.
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There's rampant mismanagement and waste
in corporate America.
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Unearned bonuses, excessive salaries.
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When I buy a stake in a company, I
become a watchdog.
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Some would say a rabid watchdog.
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Even better.
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But I'm doing it for the little guy.
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The cops, the teachers, the nurses, they
own publicly traded stocks in their
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401ks, in their IRAs.
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I keep the fat cats honest, make them
justify decisions.
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Their compensation. So you consider
yourself a public servant?
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No, no, no.
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I'm a capitalist.
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My goal is to make money for me and for
all the other shareholders who put their
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faith in the hands of executives running
publicly traded companies.
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Museum of Natural History.
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Prosperity. Pushing for change in the
name of the greater good.
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Big party.
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Oh, no, no. Oh, my God.
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Oh, my God.
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No.
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Vic Thomas Hardiman, 53.
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What happened?
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He was hit by a taxi, 20 -03 hours.
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Hit and run?
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More like hit and cry.
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Driver's a blubbery mess.
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Said there was an altercation. Vic was
shoved in front of the cab.
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Did you see who did the shoving? Nope.
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Was there a passenger in the taxi? A
woman.
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She was on a phone. Didn't see anything.
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Could the driver give a description?
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It was dark.
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Couldn't even say if it was a man or a
woman. All he said was meet and build,
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wearing some kind of brown hat, had her
knees on foot.
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Okay. Pull all the Argus footage from
the area, and since there was a
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have the MLI check for third -party DNA
on the Vic. Mm -hmm.
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Vic's got his phone here.
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And this is a very fancy wallet, so I
don't think we're looking at a robbery.
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He lives at 115 -757th Street. It's near
Billionaire's Row.
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Got a wedding ring.
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Go deliver the news.
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Till death do us part.
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It would be helpful to know where your
husband was this evening, who he was
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seeing? Uh, I wish I could help.
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Tom and I have been separated about
three months now.
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Do you know what he was doing in the
neighborhood where he was killed west of
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43rd Street?
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Oh, that's by the Harvard Club.
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Tom went there most nights around 8 or
so.
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And did your husband have any enemies,
anyone who might have threatened him?
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Do you know who Tom was?
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What he did?
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Well, his business card just said that
he ran Broadchurch Investment Fund.
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Tom wasn't just any investor.
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He was an activist investor.
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What does that mean?
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He buys a big stake, tells them not so
nicely what they're doing wrong, how to
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run their company.
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Used to call those guys corporate
raiders.
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So, made money, not friends.
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Exactly.
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How about recently? Did he get into it
with anyone in particular?
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I have not kept up on his date today.
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His girlfriend might know.
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His girlfriend?
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Some professor up at Hudson.
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I don't have a name.
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Sometimes it's better not to know.
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And what about you?
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What were you doing tonight around 8 p
.m.? I was at my book club.
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Ten women married to fund managers. We
all have a lot of downtime.
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Okay, well, we're...
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We're going to ask you to send us some
names.
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Court.
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I can't believe he's really gone.
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If you think of anything else.
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We looked at the university social
media. Tom Hardiman was a guest lecturer
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your class a few months ago, and I guess
you two hit it off.
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I never meant to fall in love.
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There's no one like Tom.
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fearless thinker in an age of cowardly
groupthink.
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What's a billionaire investor doing
giving a lecture at a college? No
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I teach information asymmetry, how
knowledge translates into economic
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So how were things between you two?
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We made each other very happy.
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Did you see Hardiman last night?
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No. I was stuck on campus meeting with
students who can talk to security.
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Was he receiving any threats?
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Some people hated him.
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or hated the way that he challenged
them, challenged their rigid, old
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ways. He liked to say he could fill a
country with his enemies.
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Got any names?
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No, he never took them seriously.
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We have to get moving.
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Okay, well, if you think of anything,
any chance your husband found out about
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the relationship?
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Of course.
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I told Mark it's why I filed for
divorce.
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Nice.
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All right, that text I got?
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They found third -party DNA under
Hardeman's nails and on his jacket.
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Any hits in CODIS? Nope, but it's male.
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I said we talked to the jilted husband.
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Ariana told me she was in love.
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Hell, I was glad she told me. Truth is
freeing. And if Ariana wants out, that's
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her right.
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Pretty zen for the guy who called Tom
Hardeman over a dozen times in the past
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week. Look, I want her to sit down with
the man, faith to faith.
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That jackass was paying for her divorce
lawyer, bankrolling her custody site. If
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I'm being ferociously honest, that
sounds like motive.
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I got nothing to hide.
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We met for lunch, and I told Hardiman
exactly what I thought of him. Oh,
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How'd that go? Things get ugly? They
turn physical at all?
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They probably would have, but some nut
job beat me to it.
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What does that mean?
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As Hardiman was heading for the exit,
some guy comes up, starts grabbing at
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taking swings, so...
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I just watched and enjoyed the show.
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Okay, you got an alibi for 8 p .m. last
night?
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Yeah, I was leading a seminar on the
Lower East Side, finding your truth.
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You should come sometime.
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Hey, so our life coach husband was
telling the truth. 62 people were
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be ferociously honest for 180 bucks a
pop while Tom Hardiman was getting
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in front of a cab.
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I bet ferocious honesty killed more
people per year than cigarettes.
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Yeah, and when my wife and I got back
together, we had one agreement. No
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questions, no confessions about our time
apart.
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What you don't know can't hurt you, and
what you don't say can't be used in a
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custody battle.
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Hey, so I pulled that video you asked
for from the restaurant. Take a look.
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There's no match in facial rec, but
there was a patch on his jacket.
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Okay, let's...
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Do a little digging and see if anyone
was trashing Hardiman at Mercy Hospital.
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Yeah.
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A couple posts on social media here.
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Hashtag Mercy Hospital. Hashtag Tom
Hardiman. This one from Carlos Guzman,
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seems to be a nurse.
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This one's a gem from a couple days ago.
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Tom Hardiman has blood on his hands.
Time for retribution.
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COO said he worked on the fifth floor?
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On Mondays, yeah. He's on the sixth
floor the other four days.
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Is that our guy right there?
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Looks like it.
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Carlos Guzman, NYPD, we need to talk to
you.
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He's gonna rabbit.
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All right, don't move. Don't move.
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Don't look so surprised.
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You're coming with us.
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I told you I got nothing to do with any
murder. Sit down, okay?
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Sit. You took swings at Tom Hardiman
outside of Midtown Bistro, and two days
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later, he's dead.
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You understand why we have questions?
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What's her beef with the guy anyway?
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Why this need for retribution?
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Hardiman's fund, uh... Broadchurch
Investments.
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They bought a big -ass stake in the
hospital chain I work for.
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No one told us. It's not like we're
reading financial news. But all of a
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there's a new head of hospital.
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Then half the trauma ward gets fired.
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So he downsized.
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Must have ticked you off.
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What ticked me off?
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Empty supply closets. No pain meds for
patients.
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No ventilators. The nursing staff
couldn't even get protective gear.
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And so you wanted him dead.
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I wanted to expose him.
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People need to know the truth.
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Well, it's very noble, but we think
there's something more personal.
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We happen to know that your mother died
at Mercy Hospital two months after
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Hardeman took over.
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I mean, that would piss me off if I
found out that some suit's budget cuts
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to my mom not getting the care that she
needed.
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Carlos, where were you last night around
8 p .m.? At the bedside of a 28 -year
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-old who died because we didn't have a
goddamn ventilator. That's his wife, his
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parents.
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We're two young children.
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We will look into that.
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Whoever offed Tom Hardiman saved lives.
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Did good.
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Guzman's alibi checks out.
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He's kind of a hero over at Mercy, so I
think we ought to cut him loose before
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that nursing staff storms his place.
Okay, do it.
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These hedge funds are pillaging our
health care system.
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We're also going after newspapers, toy
companies, anything.
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As long as there's a green rainbow at
the end. Maybe we should look into some
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Hardeman's other investments, see if
there's anyone who feels as passionately
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Guzman. Well, according to the Wall
Street Journal, Hardeman's latest
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was Wellpoint Therapeutics.
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There's a ton of articles predicting a
brutal showdown between Hardiman and
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Wellpoint's CEO.
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I'm looking at Hardiman's calendar.
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The last meeting he had on the day he
was killed was at Wellpoint.
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Let's go.
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I was shocked to hear about Tom. He's
such a young man.
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You had a meeting with him on the day he
was killed?
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Yeah, we met right here.
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Anything strange about the meeting? Any
arguments?
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I'll save you from barking up that tree.
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Despite the press hoopla about a looming
showdown between us, our meeting was
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cordial.
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Don't believe everything you read. So he
wasn't trying to pillage your company?
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No.
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He bought a 24 % stake, got himself a
seat on the board, had some thoughts he
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wanted to share, asked me for a one -on
-one to present his ideas, and I agreed.
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And? And it was a pleasant...
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productive conversation.
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Mr. Munson, your conference call is
about to begin.
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Ah, yes. Thank you.
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I'm sorry. My assistant will see you.
Just one last thing for protocol. Where
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were you last night at 8 p .m.? I was at
home reading a bedtime story to my
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grandkids.
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We should all be so blessed.
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Okay, thank you.
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Munson mentioned that his meeting was a
one -on -one.
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But in Hardeman's calendar, he mentions
that he met with someone else from the
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company by the name of Kevin Goodall?
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Sure. He's our head of research.
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Well, Hardeman wanted it to be just the
two of them, but I insisted on
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attending. And why is that?
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Norm founded this company 40 years ago.
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He devoted his time and capital into
researching cures for rare diseases,
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whereas Tom Hardeman, thank you, is a
high -end pickpocket in a Brioni suit,
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trying to tell Norman Munson.
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who started as a doctor and is one of
the pioneers of drug research, how to
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his pharmaceutical business?
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Huh. Be arrogant.
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So, yeah, I wanted to be there.
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Sounds like maybe things got a little
heated.
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No.
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No, Norm is a class act.
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He refused to take the bait.
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Eventually, Hardeman backed off, and the
whole thing stayed pleasantly
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professional.
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Did Hardeman seem distracted or
stressed?
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I don't know the guy's baseline.
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But the meeting was shorter than I would
have anticipated.
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I thought he would have stuck around and
pressed his point.
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It took about 30 minutes or so. Then he
ran out of here like he had a plane to
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catch. What time was that?
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6 .30. Do you know where he was going?
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No, he wasn't the chatty type.
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Okay, well, just so we can cross you off
the list, where were you last night at
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8 p .m.?
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I was at home with my wife, telling her
what a clown Hardeman is.
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Was.
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Just got off the phone with Goodall's
wife. She confirms he was home at 8, and
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Munson's family corroborates his version
of events.
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I don't know. Got 3DU of Hardeman
leaving well -pointed 6 .30, like
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said. He's pacing.
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Looks like he's yelling at somebody on
his phone, and then he heads off down
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street, and we lose him on the cameras.
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And according to his call log, at 6 .38,
he called a number registered to
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Preston Cain four times.
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Who's Preston Cain?
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He's the chairman of Wellpoint
Therapeutics.
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Yeah, I think I had a couple calls, but
I didn't pick up. And I was out one time
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up here to my doorbell can.
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Do you know why he came by?
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Hardeman had a one -track mind. Every
call and meeting was about the same
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He wanted to fire Norman Munson.
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Why that?
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To change the company's focus.
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Redirect our R &D to big market, high
-profit therapy.
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Wow, that sounds like Hardiman's M
-Home. It is.
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Except the WellPoint board loves Norm.
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Everyone loves Norm.
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Despite the company's lackluster
financial results the past few years.
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So Hardiman wanted him fired, but the
board wasn't having it?
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A couple board members were on the
fence, but you're correct.
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Hardiman was never going to get the
votes he needed. It was driving him
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Why so much love for Norm Munson?
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Look, it's not the most popular concept
these days, but Munson believes there
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are things more important than profit.
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He believes in a greater good.
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Hardiman called you four times, and one
of the calls lasted 17 seconds. Are you
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sure he didn't reach you?
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He left a voicemail. I finally got what
I need. Norm Munson is a goner.
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Ryan Elliott.
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I'm Detective Riley. This is Lieutenant
Brady, NYPD.
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We were told you worked closely with Tom
Hardiman.
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Yeah, until he fired me yesterday.
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Don't worry. I was throwing back Patron
shots with a half dozen colleagues when
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Hardiman hit the pavement.
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Sound really broken up about it. What
can I say? Guy was a prick.
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The thing that really gets to me,
though, is I knew it.
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but tried to convince myself that he was
actually a decent human being.
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What do you know about Hardiman's
relationship with Norman Munson? He
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man. He spent 50 % of his time trying to
fire his ass. Already had a successor
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picked out, too.
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Hardiman chose Munson's successor?
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On a three -year business plan.
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He shared it with the board. Munson knew
about this.
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He sure did.
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But he didn't care.
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Told Hardiman to kiss his ass.
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Well, apparently Hardeman left a
voicemail with WellPoint's chairman of
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board. Preston Kane.
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Yeah, something about how he finally had
what he needed to get Munson fired,
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like he had some smoking gun.
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And 30 minutes or so later, he was dead,
so we think there's some connection.
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Whatever Hardeman discovered might have
triggered someone to kill him. I wish I
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could help you, but I don't know
anything about that.
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Sorry.
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Okay, well, thank you for your time.
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Well, one thing's clear. Munson lied to
us when he told us that meeting with
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Hardiman ended in some sort of
gentleman's agreement.
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Sounds like that one -on -one wasn't
quite as friendly as you suggested, huh?
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Yeah, maybe he's not as warm and cuddly
as he looks.
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Even a teddy bear's gonna get its back
up with some young hotshots trying to
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fire him from his own damn company.
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Sounds like motive.
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Yeah, but I mean, what?
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Munson's 70?
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He doesn't seem like a killer type to
me.
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And his family said that he was home at
the time of the murder. Maybe they're
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covering for him. Just pull more video
from the Wellpoint offices in the crime
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scene. We just need one shot of Munson,
hopefully wearing a brown hat.
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And then we can get a warrant for his
DNA.
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What's going on here?
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Sorry, sir, you're going to step aside?
This is my company. Step aside.
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00:18:27,390 --> 00:18:29,370
Kevin Goodall, we need to talk.
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00:18:29,850 --> 00:18:32,950
We found video of you at the crime scene
and your DNA on the victim.
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00:18:33,150 --> 00:18:34,370
He's under arrest for murder.
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The right to remain silent. Kevin,
what's going on? Don't talk to anyone,
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Say nothing to anyone.
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Can't wait.
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Hey, I gotta go.
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00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:52,760
Yep, I feel it.
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00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:00,740
You have no poker face, Nolan.
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It's the mystery woman, isn't it?
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You're clearly smitten. No comments.
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Just give me something.
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How you met?
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What she does?
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She is a psychiatrist.
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Don't say it.
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No, I won't.
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Because I can think of absolutely no
reason for you to be seeing a
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How'd the arraignment go?
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Judge Romano granted bail.
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On a murder to charge?
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00:19:28,020 --> 00:19:29,980
Defense rattled off Goodall's resume.
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He's got a...
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Awards from the NIH, CDC, MD, PhD in
pharmacology, a member of the MAA, an
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active community member who's never so
much as gotten a speeding ticket.
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Not our first golden boy murderer.
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00:19:43,890 --> 00:19:45,350
Yeah. How's our evidence?
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Video showing Goodall leaving Wellpoint
at 7 .30 p .m., heading in the direction
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of the crime scene, and then one block
away putting on a brown hat that matches
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00:19:54,450 --> 00:19:55,970
the description from the taxi driver.
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00:19:56,780 --> 00:20:01,300
Plus, his DNA was a full match to the
third -party DNA found on the victim.
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00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:02,520
Why'd he do it?
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00:20:02,580 --> 00:20:06,120
I'm not sure yet. We know Hardiman was
gunning to fire Goodall's boss.
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00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,400
So let's find out what would have
happened to Goodall if Hardiman had had
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way.
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00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,740
Otherwise, your evidence is solid.
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00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,680
I'm not so sure about that.
364
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,080
Defense just filed a motion to suppress
the DNA.
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00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,280
It's a Fourth Amendment violation, a
total invasion of my client's privacy.
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Your Honor, the defendant voluntarily
surrendered his DNA and blood to his
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employer without signing or demanding.
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00:20:31,980 --> 00:20:34,400
Any agreement that his employer keep
those records confidential.
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00:20:34,740 --> 00:20:38,820
Is this true? Only because the sample
was provided years before standard
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forms, before the government was
actively assembling DNA databases to
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crimes. Please tell me police at least
had a subpoena? Yes, they had reason to
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believe Goodall was the killer, so we
served the company with a grand jury
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subpoena to produce Goodall's DNA,
which, again, he had voluntarily
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00:20:54,650 --> 00:20:58,250
the company. This was not some wild
database goose chase.
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00:20:58,490 --> 00:21:02,670
It is an incontrovertible good for
medical researchers to provide their
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and DNA in labs so that research can
proceed accurately and safely without
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risk of cross -contamination. But if we
violate the privacy of these doctors
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because of a technicality... You put
future life -saving research at risk
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because nobody will sign up to hand over
their DNA for science.
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00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:21,360
I agree.
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00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,320
Your Honor, we could have gotten a
separate warrant to collect the DNA
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arrest. An arrest based on this first
invasion of privacy.
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Fruit of the poisonous tree.
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The DNA is out.
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00:21:34,580 --> 00:21:37,320
And you won't be getting any other
warrant to get it either.
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00:21:45,260 --> 00:21:50,940
And Tom Hardiman was notorious for
ousting CEOs and installing new ones?
387
00:21:51,260 --> 00:21:54,240
Correct. Did he articulate this plan to
members of the WellPoint board?
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00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,640
Brought it up at every meeting. Even
called me a few times. In fact, he had
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00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,720
proposed a specific replacement CEO.
390
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,340
Yes. Called him a brilliant shark.
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00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:08,680
The night Tom Hardiman was killed, he
left you an urgent voicemail, correct?
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00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:09,860
he tried to find you at home.
393
00:22:10,060 --> 00:22:11,060
Correct. Do you know why?
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His voicemail suggested he'd finally
found a way to get rid of Munson.
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00:22:14,570 --> 00:22:15,870
I finally got what I need.
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00:22:16,590 --> 00:22:18,130
Munson's a goner, were his words.
397
00:22:18,370 --> 00:22:23,410
And if Munson wasn't gone, what would
happen to the defendant, Kevin Goodall?
398
00:22:23,890 --> 00:22:25,190
Objection. Speculative.
399
00:22:25,650 --> 00:22:29,550
Your Honor, the victim shared his own
well -pointed three -year business plan
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with a witness.
401
00:22:30,510 --> 00:22:32,530
Overruled. Mr. Kane, please answer.
402
00:22:33,170 --> 00:22:35,090
Munson hired Goodall right out of
medical school.
403
00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:36,670
Treated him like a son.
404
00:22:37,010 --> 00:22:41,130
Hardeman told us the new CEO would clean
house, and that meant firing Goodall.
405
00:22:41,210 --> 00:22:42,250
Thank you. Nothing further.
406
00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:48,640
Is Kevin Goodall a capable head of
medical research?
407
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:49,920
He's excellent.
408
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,380
Under his oversight, how many drugs has
WellPoint patented and brought to
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00:22:54,380 --> 00:22:56,360
market? Last ten years, seven.
410
00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,560
Are you aware he'd received four offers
from competing firms in the past year
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00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:02,860
alone for better pay?
412
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,000
I heard about one. The others don't
surprise me.
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00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,540
Kevin is a well -respected researcher,
and we knew he only stated WellPoint out
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00:23:10,540 --> 00:23:11,700
of loyalty to Norm's vision.
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00:23:12,090 --> 00:23:16,070
Do you have any reason to believe that
Kevin Goodall had financial problems?
416
00:23:16,430 --> 00:23:17,430
No.
417
00:23:17,710 --> 00:23:21,330
Have you ever been to Kevin Goodall's
home? Yes, once, for dinner.
418
00:23:25,850 --> 00:23:28,090
Is this it on Central Park West?
419
00:23:28,410 --> 00:23:29,490
Objection. Relevance.
420
00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:33,810
Prosecution put forth a theory that my
client's motive was anxiety about losing
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his $600 ,000 a year job.
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00:23:36,070 --> 00:23:37,690
Mr. Kane can rebut that.
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00:23:38,110 --> 00:23:39,089
I'll allow.
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00:23:39,090 --> 00:23:40,090
Mr. Kane?
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00:23:40,250 --> 00:23:41,550
Yes, this is Kevin's home.
426
00:23:42,060 --> 00:23:45,840
He purchased it for $12 .7 million in
2019.
427
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,820
Not bad for a medical researcher.
428
00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:51,660
I believe there's family money there
from real estate.
429
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,280
So do you have any reason to believe
that Kevin Goodall was desperate to keep
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his job at WellPoint so desperate he
would kill for it?
431
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:02,560
No.
432
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,360
Not at all.
433
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,120
Defense is right. If Goodall's that
wealthy, he didn't even need to work.
434
00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:19,000
would he stress about losing his job at
Wellpoint?
435
00:24:19,220 --> 00:24:21,360
The motive still doesn't add up yet.
436
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,660
What are we missing?
437
00:24:25,420 --> 00:24:26,880
This murder was emotional.
438
00:24:28,700 --> 00:24:31,560
Improvised. Nobody plans to push someone
in front of a taxi.
439
00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:33,460
So what set it in motion?
440
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,640
Maybe something happened at the
Wellpoint meeting between Hardiman,
441
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,340
Goodall? Something that...
442
00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:43,870
Rattled Goodall?
443
00:24:44,610 --> 00:24:46,510
Made him angrier. Worried enough to
kill.
444
00:24:49,150 --> 00:24:50,150
I'm saying nothing.
445
00:24:50,810 --> 00:24:54,170
We just want to know about the meeting
that day. If anything happened to upset
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00:24:54,170 --> 00:24:55,170
Kevin Goodall.
447
00:24:57,550 --> 00:25:02,050
Do you know how many hours of rigorous,
meticulous laboratory oversight goes
448
00:25:02,050 --> 00:25:05,930
into bringing a life -saving drug to
market?
449
00:25:07,790 --> 00:25:11,450
It's not a job. It is a sacred
commitment.
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00:25:12,910 --> 00:25:14,370
It takes constant vigilance.
451
00:25:14,570 --> 00:25:19,270
Goodall is a great researcher and a
great man.
452
00:25:20,190 --> 00:25:22,290
Mr. Munson has to prepare for a call.
453
00:25:22,730 --> 00:25:24,190
You got the wrong guy.
454
00:25:32,330 --> 00:25:36,430
Mr. Munson did nothing wrong in that
meeting. Please stop agitating him.
455
00:25:37,090 --> 00:25:38,950
How do you know he did nothing wrong?
Were you there?
456
00:25:39,340 --> 00:25:42,340
I attend all of Mr. Munson's meetings.
I'm with him the entire workday. Okay,
457
00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:45,060
then why don't you just tell us what
went down? Did Hardeman threaten Munson?
458
00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:46,120
Did he threaten Goodall?
459
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,000
I can't answer any further questions.
460
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,960
Just so you know, the DA can subpoena
you to appear in court.
461
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,520
I can't speak.
462
00:25:52,820 --> 00:25:54,220
I'm bound by New York state law.
463
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,240
What law?
464
00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,320
HIPAA.
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00:26:00,980 --> 00:26:02,180
I'm Norman Munson's nurse.
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00:26:04,940 --> 00:26:06,140
Here we go.
467
00:26:06,810 --> 00:26:12,670
Munson's assistant, before this, he
spent five years working at the
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Garden facility in Queens.
469
00:26:14,710 --> 00:26:15,790
What is that?
470
00:26:17,550 --> 00:26:18,990
Memory care facility.
471
00:26:22,350 --> 00:26:29,210
According to his financials, Munson made
three large payments
472
00:26:29,210 --> 00:26:32,790
this year to a doctor, Naomi Mizkami.
473
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,280
She's a neurologist.
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00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:40,840
That's it.
475
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,300
That's the smoking gun Hardiman was
looking for.
476
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,320
Norman Munson had dementia.
477
00:26:52,940 --> 00:26:56,500
Somehow, Hardiman discovered Munson's
dementia at that meeting.
478
00:26:56,700 --> 00:26:57,679
Well, he must have.
479
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,620
It was a pretty late meeting.
480
00:27:00,340 --> 00:27:02,160
In my father's last years.
481
00:27:03,420 --> 00:27:08,420
He struggled to stay sharp, but after an
hour, especially in the afternoon, his
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basic recall always failed. He could
tell every detail of what happened in
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00:27:12,020 --> 00:27:14,160
childhood, but he would forget what he
had for breakfast.
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00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,720
I remember the shame on his face when he
couldn't find an answer. It was
485
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,100
heartbreaking.
486
00:27:22,220 --> 00:27:24,720
So Munson tripped up and Hardeman saw
it.
487
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,680
Goodall saw it.
488
00:27:27,420 --> 00:27:28,299
My guess?
489
00:27:28,300 --> 00:27:30,660
That's why Goodall was in the meeting to
begin with.
490
00:27:32,010 --> 00:27:35,290
He spent a lot of time with Munson. He
had to know about Munson's decline.
491
00:27:35,690 --> 00:27:39,850
He was guarding the secret. Because if
the board found out about Munson's
492
00:27:39,850 --> 00:27:41,270
dementia... Forget about votes.
493
00:27:41,630 --> 00:27:43,150
That would force his dismissal.
494
00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:48,790
So, Hardeman was going to expose
Munson's condition, have him fired.
495
00:27:49,490 --> 00:27:51,610
That still only gets you halfway to
motive.
496
00:27:52,350 --> 00:27:55,410
Why would Goodall kill to keep Munson
the CEO?
497
00:27:56,150 --> 00:27:58,110
You said he was rich, had job options.
498
00:27:58,350 --> 00:28:00,870
I know. I've been digging into Goodall's
life. He was the...
499
00:28:01,070 --> 00:28:05,410
Further thing from desperate, he donated
lots of money to tens of thousands to
500
00:28:05,410 --> 00:28:06,830
various schools, hospitals.
501
00:28:07,130 --> 00:28:09,090
Whatever motivated him, his wife seemed
to know.
502
00:28:09,610 --> 00:28:11,370
She vouched for his alibi, right?
503
00:28:11,710 --> 00:28:15,350
He lied to police about what time he got
home. There's no way she's going to
504
00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:18,610
talk to us. When Goodall's wife lies,
she weighed privilege.
505
00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:20,670
Give it a shot. Track her down.
506
00:28:26,979 --> 00:28:31,420
Rachel Goodall, her housekeeper said
she's been here since 7 a .m. Yeah, Mrs.
507
00:28:31,420 --> 00:28:32,420
Goodall's an early bird.
508
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:33,960
Always here at the crack of dawn.
509
00:28:35,020 --> 00:28:36,020
Here we are.
510
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,440
Do you mind?
511
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,620
The kids are fragile.
512
00:28:41,820 --> 00:28:42,860
Leukemia, batten disease.
513
00:28:43,420 --> 00:28:44,420
Here for our trial.
514
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,360
Mrs.
515
00:28:54,660 --> 00:28:55,720
Goodall is over there.
516
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,920
I am not talking to you. Please leave.
517
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,520
We just have some questions. Please. I'm
not going to help you with anything. We
518
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,680
can subpoena you.
519
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:10,760
That is the least of my concerns.
520
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:16,560
Hi, sweetie.
521
00:29:16,700 --> 00:29:17,700
What's your name?
522
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,260
Kevin, good old daughter.
523
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:34,900
She can't speak?
524
00:29:35,260 --> 00:29:36,260
Batten disease.
525
00:29:37,180 --> 00:29:38,880
It's brutal.
526
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,320
It erodes the ability to communicate.
527
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:48,380
On top of the seizures, the
disorientation, the eventual blindness.
528
00:29:48,740 --> 00:29:49,880
Oh, it's all kids.
529
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,840
Symptoms present around the age of six.
530
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,280
From that point, the body eventually
starts deteriorating.
531
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,060
You're running the trials for Wild
Point, correct? We're one year in.
532
00:30:00,220 --> 00:30:01,340
How's it going? How are you?
533
00:30:01,690 --> 00:30:02,690
Close to a cure.
534
00:30:02,790 --> 00:30:05,530
We're getting close, but we're still a
few years out.
535
00:30:06,370 --> 00:30:11,590
The survival rate for Patton is under
2%. That's why we're working around the
536
00:30:11,590 --> 00:30:13,930
clock. It's the only chance he'll get
that.
537
00:30:15,410 --> 00:30:16,410
Thanks.
538
00:30:18,490 --> 00:30:22,370
Goodall didn't kill Hardiman to save his
job. He killed Hardiman to save his
539
00:30:22,370 --> 00:30:23,370
daughter's life.
540
00:30:24,750 --> 00:30:28,110
So if Hardiman had been able to install
his new...
541
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,240
profit -driven CEO at WellPoint, what
would have been his first order of
542
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,940
business? Eliminate budget waste.
543
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,000
Elaborate.
544
00:30:36,420 --> 00:30:39,900
WellPoint spends a fortune on small
market research into rare diseases.
545
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,960
Hardeman wanted WellPoint moving to
cholesterol, blood pressure, weight loss
546
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,940
drugs, products with bigger markets.
547
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,680
So some WellPoint trials would have
ended.
548
00:30:49,940 --> 00:30:52,000
Immediately. Had he done this before?
549
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:57,320
Cut drug research mid -trial in other
firms that he invested in?
550
00:30:57,660 --> 00:30:58,660
So I made his money.
551
00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:03,360
Did Tom Hardiman share his proposed
budget cuts with the WellPoint board?
552
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,180
Yes. He gave them a list.
553
00:31:06,420 --> 00:31:10,140
I'm going to show you what was
previously marked as Exhibit 5. Was this
554
00:31:10,140 --> 00:31:15,340
was presented in June. A list of drug
research he wanted to end at WellPoint.
555
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:20,080
Yes. Is Batten disease included on
Hardiman's cut list?
556
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,360
Among others, yes.
557
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,480
Your Honor.
558
00:31:23,630 --> 00:31:24,850
I'd like to submit a photograph.
559
00:31:25,170 --> 00:31:28,770
Objection. This was from a hospital
newsletter, Your Honor. It's publicly
560
00:31:28,770 --> 00:31:29,770
available.
561
00:31:30,990 --> 00:31:32,030
I'll allow it.
562
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:40,210
This was taken at a Mount Hope Hospital
event celebrating the strength and
563
00:31:40,210 --> 00:31:45,330
courage of children fighting Batten
disease and participating in WellPoint's
564
00:31:45,330 --> 00:31:47,230
Phase I trials.
565
00:31:47,650 --> 00:31:48,850
Please, could you read the caption
aloud?
566
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:56,540
Dr. Kevin Goodall with his wife and
daughter, Emily, a patient battling
567
00:31:56,540 --> 00:31:57,540
disease.
568
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:03,300
So if Munson had been removed, that
would have been a de facto death
569
00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:04,500
for Kevin Goodall's daughter.
570
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:05,860
Objection. Withdrawn.
571
00:32:07,060 --> 00:32:08,260
No further questions.
572
00:32:10,300 --> 00:32:14,200
Did Tom Hardiman have the power to fire
Norman Munson?
573
00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:18,980
He did not. Do you have any evidence
that Tom Hardiman, or anyone for that
574
00:32:18,980 --> 00:32:21,840
matter, had amassed the board votes to
fire Munson?
575
00:32:22,060 --> 00:32:23,460
It was Tom's plan. Yes or no?
576
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,420
Had he assembled the votes?
577
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:33,080
Not that I know of. So the idea of what
Munson's replacement might change at
578
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:39,440
Wellpoint, it's total speculation on top
of complete impossibility, which means
579
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,600
my client had no reason to kill Mr.
Hardiman.
580
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,080
Nothing further.
581
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,600
If the state's full, as it might seem,
the only way to win this is to prove
582
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,880
Hardeman knew Munson had dementia and he
was going to use that to force them
583
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,240
out. How? We can't get access to
Munson's medical records, let alone
584
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,500
them in court without violating HIPAA.
We have to call Munson to the stand.
585
00:33:11,020 --> 00:33:12,020
Based on what?
586
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,320
Hardeman's plans to fire him.
587
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:15,520
And then?
588
00:33:17,870 --> 00:33:21,970
I find a way to trip him up and reveal
that his mental acuity is diminished.
589
00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:25,130
That does not feel right, Nolan, for a
lot of reasons.
590
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:28,470
Look, you can always plead this to a
lesser charge.
591
00:33:29,010 --> 00:33:31,550
Put the man into a moving car, that's
murder.
592
00:33:31,850 --> 00:33:32,990
Or manslaughter.
593
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:36,030
He was acting under extreme emotional
disturbance.
594
00:33:36,390 --> 00:33:40,470
He was panicked that the idea a new CEO
would abandon that into this research,
595
00:33:40,570 --> 00:33:43,230
that his daughter's life was in
jeopardy. He gave Goodall the right to
596
00:33:43,230 --> 00:33:45,790
what company shareholders can and can't
know.
597
00:33:46,220 --> 00:33:48,880
Look what happened to Bidens in a circle
when the world was questioning his
598
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,560
fitness to serve. No one thought they
had the right to keep that secret.
599
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,640
Norman Munson is not a commander -in
-chief. And by all accounts, in the
600
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,700
portion of the world he does control, he
did nothing but good.
601
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,180
You want to humiliate him on the stand
to help the Wall Street guys get richer?
602
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,920
Hardiman's fund still owns a 24 % stake.
If Munson goes, they'll end research,
603
00:34:10,139 --> 00:34:11,960
medical research, to save children's
lives.
604
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,600
Children we saw, Nolan.
605
00:34:15,530 --> 00:34:21,350
And we're doing this to send a devoted
doctor and father to prison for life to
606
00:34:21,350 --> 00:34:22,929
get justice for a corporate raider?
607
00:34:23,250 --> 00:34:28,969
We don't get to rate our victims or
defendants. But Munson, he's a bystander
608
00:34:28,969 --> 00:34:29,969
all this.
609
00:34:32,150 --> 00:34:34,050
Show me any other way.
610
00:34:44,940 --> 00:34:48,020
We are prepared to offer murder, too.
611
00:34:49,179 --> 00:34:55,280
But we'll recommend 15 to 20 years,
which is the gift for charge of this
612
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,340
magnitude. Your case is weak, Nolan.
That's why you're here. We're here
613
00:34:59,340 --> 00:35:02,860
we're offering a lifeline to your client
and his daughter.
614
00:35:04,980 --> 00:35:05,980
Meaning what?
615
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,900
If you plead this out, no one will ever
find out about Norman Manson's dementia.
616
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,200
Dementia? That's absurd.
617
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,580
Well, Point is going to continue its
research into Batten disease, find a
618
00:35:18,740 --> 00:35:19,780
And your daughter will live.
619
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,660
This is one of the more brazen threats
I've heard all year.
620
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,560
Take this to verdict.
621
00:35:24,940 --> 00:35:26,180
You run two risks.
622
00:35:26,380 --> 00:35:31,500
One, expose Norman Munson's cognitive
issues, which means Munson is gone as
623
00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:36,040
before the judge even sends the jury off
to deliberate. Two, you will face a
624
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,680
much harsher sentence than 15 to 20.
625
00:35:41,020 --> 00:35:42,140
Well, we're not going to lose.
626
00:35:43,370 --> 00:35:44,370
So we'll see you in court.
627
00:35:50,430 --> 00:35:54,550
One more thing. I mentioned to Judge
Draven I have a scheduling conflict in
628
00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:57,410
morning, so we'll be calling Norman
Munson late in the day.
629
00:35:57,850 --> 00:35:59,110
Apologies for any inconvenience.
630
00:36:00,290 --> 00:36:01,570
I hope he's not too tired.
631
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:12,650
Were you considering retirement?
632
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,020
Not at all. I love working.
633
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,260
Do you know of any situation that could
force your termination?
634
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,000
For example, if you were convicted of a
crime.
635
00:36:28,260 --> 00:36:29,600
In that case, I'm out.
636
00:36:30,460 --> 00:36:34,500
What if you were caught deceiving the
board or shareholders?
637
00:36:34,980 --> 00:36:35,819
I'd be removed.
638
00:36:35,820 --> 00:36:40,020
What if you were deemed medically
incapable of fulfilling your duties?
639
00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:42,620
They would have to.
640
00:36:43,130 --> 00:36:44,990
Remove me. Your Honor, relevance.
641
00:36:45,290 --> 00:36:49,750
We have been at this for an hour, and
the witness has made it clear he was not
642
00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:54,650
about to retire or be fired from
Wellpoint Therapeutics, despite all of
643
00:36:54,810 --> 00:36:57,510
Price's dire hypotheticals. I'm getting
there, Your Honor.
644
00:36:57,850 --> 00:36:59,730
Defense asks he get there tomorrow.
645
00:37:00,790 --> 00:37:01,790
It's late.
646
00:37:02,310 --> 00:37:03,410
Requesting an adjournment.
647
00:37:04,270 --> 00:37:05,670
Continue, but swiftly.
648
00:37:06,850 --> 00:37:11,030
So, Mr. Munson, once more, for the
record.
649
00:37:11,870 --> 00:37:18,070
You had and have no intention of
abandoning your position as CEO of
650
00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:19,690
Correct. One more question.
651
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:23,050
It's the easiest one of the day.
652
00:37:25,050 --> 00:37:27,630
How did you get here today?
653
00:37:30,330 --> 00:37:31,330
Look.
654
00:37:33,310 --> 00:37:35,030
How did you get to this courthouse?
655
00:37:36,430 --> 00:37:40,530
Your Honor, relevance overruled.
656
00:37:45,290 --> 00:37:51,890
Don't know I don't understand you
arrived at this courthouse Two hours
657
00:37:51,890 --> 00:37:55,190
I'm simply asking that you tell us how
you got here
658
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:18,840
What's the question?
659
00:38:20,180 --> 00:38:24,800
It's just how you got here today. I'm
asking how you got to court today.
660
00:38:29,420 --> 00:38:32,580
My car.
661
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,100
You came here by car?
662
00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:41,780
Yes, yes. A beautiful blue BMW
convertible.
663
00:38:43,340 --> 00:38:46,580
We were right around with the top down
all summer.
664
00:38:48,110 --> 00:38:49,110
Do you remember that?
665
00:38:53,070 --> 00:38:54,070
Do I remember?
666
00:38:57,590 --> 00:38:58,810
Mr. Munster.
667
00:38:59,190 --> 00:39:00,190
Go now.
668
00:39:00,230 --> 00:39:01,950
Judge, we'd like to meet in chambers.
669
00:39:10,990 --> 00:39:14,410
I understand you've reached an agreement
on a plea. Yes, Your Honor. The
670
00:39:14,410 --> 00:39:18,130
defendant has agreed to plea to a charge
of murder in the second degree. We
671
00:39:18,130 --> 00:39:20,350
recommend a 15 -year prison term.
672
00:39:21,490 --> 00:39:24,870
Mr. Goodall, do you understand the terms
of this deal?
673
00:39:25,670 --> 00:39:26,670
I do, Your Honor.
674
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:53,560
Rachel.
675
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:55,100
Rachel.
676
00:39:55,460 --> 00:39:56,460
I'm sorry.
677
00:39:56,500 --> 00:39:57,960
There was no other way.
678
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,300
Tell Emily I love her.
679
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,060
I was willing to give up his freedom,
his whole life for his daughter.
680
00:40:07,980 --> 00:40:09,060
The greater good.
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