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Rees to Alex Marunchak. 9 00:00:33,876 --> 00:00:36,656 At The News of the World while Andy Coulson was the editor. 10 00:00:36,756 --> 00:00:39,856 There was a name that appeared in the top corner of Glenn's notes. 11 00:00:39,956 --> 00:00:41,897 - Ian Edmondson. - Ian Edmondson? 12 00:00:41,997 --> 00:00:43,937 He reported directly to Coulson. 13 00:00:44,037 --> 00:00:46,697 Someone I want you to meet. David Cook. Gordon Brown. 14 00:00:46,797 --> 00:00:49,137 I'm interested in hearing more about what's happened to you. 15 00:00:49,237 --> 00:00:51,837 I, uh... I think I might be able to help. 16 00:01:04,478 --> 00:01:06,658 GORDON: I, uh... (COUGHS) 17 00:01:06,758 --> 00:01:09,858 - I hear you're a fan of walking. - DAVE: I am. 18 00:01:09,958 --> 00:01:12,338 Do you have a favourite spot? 19 00:01:12,438 --> 00:01:14,378 Hill walking in Arran, sir. 20 00:01:14,478 --> 00:01:16,478 (LAUGHS) You don't need to call me sir. 21 00:01:17,798 --> 00:01:19,978 Policeman's habit. 22 00:01:20,078 --> 00:01:21,739 Well, I like Arran. 23 00:01:21,839 --> 00:01:24,099 Particularly, and, uh, and this might point 24 00:01:24,199 --> 00:01:26,739 to a certain masochistic quality on my part, 25 00:01:26,839 --> 00:01:29,499 - particularly in the winter time. - Well, it's the colours, 26 00:01:29,599 --> 00:01:31,539 Arran in the winter. 27 00:01:31,639 --> 00:01:33,659 Well, we shall have to go. 28 00:01:33,759 --> 00:01:36,019 You can show me the route. 29 00:01:36,119 --> 00:01:39,139 Oh, you're making me quite homesick. 30 00:01:39,239 --> 00:01:40,339 Well, surely you can get up there 31 00:01:40,439 --> 00:01:42,540 - more often now you're not-- - Now that I don't have a job? 32 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,260 - No, I didn't mean... - (LAUGHING) 33 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:46,540 I should be able to, shouldn't I? 34 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,000 And yet I keep being dragged back to London. 35 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,180 Glen has told me something about what happened to you. 36 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,340 - Your story. - Okay. 37 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:03,661 The intrusion, the surveillance, the meeting with Rebekah Brooks. 38 00:02:03,761 --> 00:02:06,061 It sounds a merry mess. 39 00:02:06,161 --> 00:02:09,501 Yeah, well, look, I made mistakes I shouldn't have. 40 00:02:09,601 --> 00:02:12,001 Well, we all do. 41 00:02:13,321 --> 00:02:15,381 We all do. 42 00:02:15,481 --> 00:02:17,661 My father was a minister, 43 00:02:17,761 --> 00:02:20,421 as I think you know, in the Church of Scotland, 44 00:02:20,521 --> 00:02:22,342 he would... 45 00:02:22,442 --> 00:02:25,002 He would hear everyone's stories. 46 00:02:26,602 --> 00:02:28,982 It's a great failing on my part that I don't have the time 47 00:02:29,082 --> 00:02:30,102 nor the patience that he does. 48 00:02:30,202 --> 00:02:32,422 So, I think it's my responsibility 49 00:02:32,522 --> 00:02:36,302 to tell you why your cruel and unusual story matter to me. 50 00:02:36,402 --> 00:02:38,682 It's because... 51 00:02:40,282 --> 00:02:43,183 It's because I think this country has become polluted, 52 00:02:43,283 --> 00:02:44,543 and I think that we could all... 53 00:02:44,643 --> 00:02:47,843 should all try to do something about it, don't you? 54 00:02:50,803 --> 00:02:53,543 You've read the pieces in The Guardian, about the hacking. 55 00:02:53,643 --> 00:02:55,583 Yeah, Nick's a friend of mine. 56 00:02:55,683 --> 00:02:56,623 Did you read the pieces 57 00:02:56,723 --> 00:02:58,423 - in The New York Times, too? - I did. 58 00:02:58,523 --> 00:02:59,863 And you know the work that Glen is doing 59 00:02:59,963 --> 00:03:01,963 - at Panorama? - Yeah. 60 00:03:03,844 --> 00:03:07,264 Rupert Murdoch is trying to take control of BSkyB. 61 00:03:07,364 --> 00:03:09,904 If he does that, it's a valuable organization, 62 00:03:10,004 --> 00:03:12,744 and he will leverage the value of it to accumulate the debt 63 00:03:12,844 --> 00:03:15,224 needed to buy a huge multinational company, 64 00:03:15,324 --> 00:03:18,824 perhaps Disney or Time Warner. 65 00:03:18,924 --> 00:03:23,285 He'll have control of our media landscape and a good hold of America. 66 00:03:25,565 --> 00:03:28,625 - He needs to be stopped. - I agree. 67 00:03:28,725 --> 00:03:32,205 I will tell you my stories and you will tell me yours. 68 00:03:33,205 --> 00:03:34,985 And then perhaps David, 69 00:03:35,085 --> 00:03:36,745 perhaps we can work out how to help each other. 70 00:03:36,845 --> 00:03:38,845 What do you say? 71 00:03:40,005 --> 00:03:42,005 What do you want me to say? 72 00:03:42,885 --> 00:03:44,886 (TYPING) 73 00:03:47,966 --> 00:03:51,966 (FESTIVE MUSIC PLAYING) 74 00:03:55,286 --> 00:03:57,926 MAN SINGING: How lucky can one guy be 75 00:03:59,126 --> 00:04:01,986 I kissed her and she kissed me 76 00:04:02,086 --> 00:04:07,367 Like the sailor said, quote "Ain't that a hole in a boat?" 77 00:04:08,447 --> 00:04:09,707 Into the shark's cage. 78 00:04:09,807 --> 00:04:12,987 I don't think they'll be providing us with cages tonight. 79 00:04:13,087 --> 00:04:15,027 - You're late. - Who the hell thought press awards 80 00:04:15,127 --> 00:04:16,107 were a good idea? 81 00:04:16,207 --> 00:04:19,747 A narcissist who realised it's an industry full of narcissists 82 00:04:19,847 --> 00:04:20,947 who pay to be rewarded 83 00:04:21,047 --> 00:04:23,047 - for the narcissism. - I can't be here. 84 00:04:24,168 --> 00:04:27,548 Look over there. News of the World. 85 00:04:27,648 --> 00:04:29,508 You know they actually have members of staff 86 00:04:29,608 --> 00:04:32,388 under arrest and many more being investigated. 87 00:04:32,488 --> 00:04:34,468 The brass neck on them is ridiculous. 88 00:04:34,568 --> 00:04:36,748 So the least I can attempt is some neck? 89 00:04:36,848 --> 00:04:39,108 No. I just want you here. 90 00:04:39,208 --> 00:04:41,228 You think we're going to win something. You're mad. 91 00:04:41,328 --> 00:04:43,508 - Everyone here hates us. - I want you here 92 00:04:43,608 --> 00:04:47,589 because I want us to lose with dignity together. 93 00:04:47,689 --> 00:04:49,909 I've missed you. 94 00:04:50,009 --> 00:04:51,949 I feel itchy. I hate this shirt. 95 00:04:52,049 --> 00:04:53,189 Well, it makes you look 96 00:04:53,289 --> 00:04:55,229 - extremely handsome. - Oh, well. 97 00:04:55,329 --> 00:04:58,229 Now I have to go and play nice with some rich board members. 98 00:04:58,329 --> 00:05:01,189 But please remember, these people, 99 00:05:01,289 --> 00:05:03,189 they're more frightened of you than you are of them. 100 00:05:03,289 --> 00:05:05,490 There's a difference between hate and fear. 101 00:05:10,330 --> 00:05:17,330 Tell me quick, ain't love a kick in the head 102 00:05:23,730 --> 00:05:26,191 MC: Ladies and gentlemen, your attention, please. 103 00:05:26,291 --> 00:05:28,711 Before our awards start this evening, 104 00:05:28,811 --> 00:05:32,931 we have a special update from journalist Nick Davies. 105 00:05:34,251 --> 00:05:36,191 On Wednesday, 26th of January, 106 00:05:36,291 --> 00:05:39,791 News International passed Scotland Yard three email messages 107 00:05:39,891 --> 00:05:41,711 which they claimed to have "only just discovered" 108 00:05:41,811 --> 00:05:43,551 in Ian Edmondson's computer. 109 00:05:43,651 --> 00:05:45,832 And Ian Edmondson was sacked. 110 00:05:45,932 --> 00:05:48,192 Once in receipt of these emails, 111 00:05:48,292 --> 00:05:51,392 Scotland Yard announced a new inquiry, 112 00:05:51,492 --> 00:05:54,792 Operation Weeting, under the command of Sue Akers. 113 00:05:54,892 --> 00:05:57,272 I dismissed Weeting as a PR move 114 00:05:57,372 --> 00:05:59,552 by the Met until on the 9th of February 115 00:05:59,652 --> 00:06:01,992 they released a statement. 116 00:06:02,092 --> 00:06:06,713 The new evidence recently provided by News International 117 00:06:06,813 --> 00:06:10,353 is being considered alongside material 118 00:06:10,453 --> 00:06:14,193 already in the Metropolitan Police Service's possession. 119 00:06:14,293 --> 00:06:17,433 It couldn't be. They weren't finally going to investigate 120 00:06:17,533 --> 00:06:19,873 the last four years of their incompetence. 121 00:06:19,973 --> 00:06:21,953 All actions and decisions 122 00:06:22,053 --> 00:06:25,914 by the previous investigation are being reviewed. 123 00:06:26,014 --> 00:06:29,334 Or were they? Were we winning? Finally? 124 00:06:31,014 --> 00:06:32,514 I certainly didn't feel like a winner. 125 00:06:32,614 --> 00:06:33,714 MC: ...show business, shall we? 126 00:06:33,814 --> 00:06:37,394 And the award for showbiz reporter of the year goes to... 127 00:06:37,494 --> 00:06:40,434 It's Stephen Moyes of The News of the World. 128 00:06:40,534 --> 00:06:42,194 Congratulations, Stephen. 129 00:06:42,294 --> 00:06:45,874 Okay, and the award for news reporter of the year goes to... 130 00:06:45,974 --> 00:06:49,815 It's the fake Sheikh, Mazher Mahmood, from The News of the World. 131 00:06:51,735 --> 00:06:53,355 The Scoop of the Year now. 132 00:06:53,455 --> 00:06:56,595 The Scoop of the year is awarded to The News of the World 133 00:06:56,695 --> 00:07:00,075 for its excellent coverage of the cricket corruption scandal. 134 00:07:00,175 --> 00:07:03,155 And the award goes to The News of the World. 135 00:07:03,255 --> 00:07:05,715 - The News of the World! - (ECHOING) 136 00:07:05,815 --> 00:07:07,836 Okay, the moment we've all been waiting for. 137 00:07:07,936 --> 00:07:10,476 It's the big one, the Newspaper of the Year. 138 00:07:10,576 --> 00:07:12,956 Now, the Newspaper of the Year goes to, 139 00:07:13,056 --> 00:07:14,836 for what the judges say is a paper 140 00:07:14,936 --> 00:07:18,356 completely unafraid to take on the powers that be. 141 00:07:18,456 --> 00:07:21,956 So, the newspaper of the year award goes to... 142 00:07:22,056 --> 00:07:23,516 The Guardian. 143 00:07:23,616 --> 00:07:28,217 (CROWD APPLAUDS) 144 00:07:36,297 --> 00:07:38,297 (KNOCKING ON DOOR) 145 00:07:42,377 --> 00:07:44,517 - Jackie Hames? - Yes. 146 00:07:44,617 --> 00:07:48,098 Hello, my name is DS Slater, and this is DC Grossman. 147 00:07:49,138 --> 00:07:52,198 - Is it David? - David Cook? No. 148 00:07:52,298 --> 00:07:56,398 Uh, No. Well, I suppose, um, in a way, yes. 149 00:07:56,498 --> 00:08:00,558 We are here investigating. We're part of a new operation. 150 00:08:00,658 --> 00:08:02,598 Operation Weeting, 151 00:08:02,698 --> 00:08:06,478 we're investigating allegations of phone hacking. 152 00:08:06,578 --> 00:08:08,519 Do you work for John Yates? 153 00:08:08,619 --> 00:08:11,559 No, we're part of the Special Crime Directorate, 154 00:08:11,659 --> 00:08:14,939 under the command of Deputy Assistant Commissioner Akers. 155 00:08:19,059 --> 00:08:20,639 Great. Thank you. 156 00:08:20,739 --> 00:08:23,919 You were found in the notebooks of Glenn Mulcaire. 157 00:08:24,019 --> 00:08:26,019 This doesn't surprise me. 158 00:08:27,099 --> 00:08:29,360 We'd like you to take a look at these details. 159 00:08:29,460 --> 00:08:31,720 Is this your police payroll 160 00:08:31,820 --> 00:08:34,040 - and warrant numbers? - Yes. 161 00:08:34,140 --> 00:08:37,440 How did he have these? (STAMMERS) 162 00:08:37,540 --> 00:08:39,440 That's where I lived in 1977. 163 00:08:39,540 --> 00:08:41,080 And is this where you worked in 2002? 164 00:08:41,180 --> 00:08:43,400 - Yes. Yeah. - And this phone number, this is-- 165 00:08:43,500 --> 00:08:45,500 This is correct. Yeah. 166 00:08:47,540 --> 00:08:48,681 There's information here 167 00:08:48,781 --> 00:08:51,361 that could only have come from my police personnel file. 168 00:08:51,461 --> 00:08:54,661 Yeah, we, um, that's what we think. 169 00:08:57,901 --> 00:09:01,281 Someone within the Met sold him my information, 170 00:09:01,381 --> 00:09:04,341 - David's information. - It's um... 171 00:09:07,101 --> 00:09:09,102 It's possible. 172 00:09:11,782 --> 00:09:14,082 - When was this known? - I'm sorry? 173 00:09:14,182 --> 00:09:17,222 When did the Metropolitan Police have this information? 174 00:09:19,302 --> 00:09:22,022 A notebook was taken from Mulcaire in 2006. 175 00:09:27,262 --> 00:09:29,643 - 2006? - Yeah. 176 00:09:29,743 --> 00:09:33,643 And the Met chose neither to inform me nor investigate 177 00:09:33,743 --> 00:09:37,523 this "possible" corruption. 178 00:09:37,623 --> 00:09:41,983 Well, that's what we're trying to do now, ma'am. 179 00:09:49,784 --> 00:09:51,364 - Glen Campbell. - Nick Davies. 180 00:09:51,464 --> 00:09:53,464 - Hi. - Honour and a privilege. 181 00:09:55,744 --> 00:09:58,084 I hear that you're not well liked at Panorama. 182 00:09:58,184 --> 00:10:00,684 I hear you're adored at The Guardian. 183 00:10:00,784 --> 00:10:02,964 So, who do you usually meet here? 184 00:10:03,064 --> 00:10:05,444 This is where you meet criminals or politicians? 185 00:10:05,544 --> 00:10:09,084 I float between cafes and pubs like a butterfly at a festival. 186 00:10:09,184 --> 00:10:10,245 I liked the Panorama 187 00:10:10,345 --> 00:10:12,445 - on Alex Marunchak. - It wasn't one of mine. 188 00:10:12,545 --> 00:10:14,565 You helped. A lot. It was good. 189 00:10:14,665 --> 00:10:17,885 You've got some particularly great hits in on Jonathan Rees. 190 00:10:17,985 --> 00:10:20,005 And I'd liked your piece on him too. 191 00:10:20,105 --> 00:10:22,605 Mr A. Very good. 192 00:10:22,705 --> 00:10:24,745 - Are you writing more? - No. 193 00:10:26,105 --> 00:10:28,125 I'm... didn't Dave say? I'm out. 194 00:10:28,225 --> 00:10:30,686 Coulson's gone. This is as far as I can go. 195 00:10:30,786 --> 00:10:32,766 Don't look like that. 196 00:10:32,866 --> 00:10:34,486 An engineered death, but something. 197 00:10:34,586 --> 00:10:36,446 I wanted people to take it seriously, they didn't. 198 00:10:36,546 --> 00:10:39,806 So, I'm handing everything on. 199 00:10:39,906 --> 00:10:42,646 I'm trying to persuade Alan to give me Belgium. 200 00:10:42,746 --> 00:10:44,766 They gave you Newspaper of the Year. 201 00:10:44,866 --> 00:10:47,846 That was for The Guardian, not me. I lost my category. 202 00:10:47,946 --> 00:10:50,767 - You're getting somewhere, Nick. - I got somewhere. 203 00:10:50,867 --> 00:10:52,767 Look, I know what this must have cost you. 204 00:10:52,867 --> 00:10:54,867 Cost me isn't the half of it. 205 00:10:55,667 --> 00:10:58,487 No one... No one cared. 206 00:10:58,587 --> 00:11:02,047 The whole industry turned away like a complicit snake. 207 00:11:02,147 --> 00:11:05,027 What if I said I came to see you today with an agenda? 208 00:11:06,067 --> 00:11:08,447 I'm friends with Clare Rewcastle Brown, 209 00:11:08,547 --> 00:11:11,368 the journalist and sister in law of Gordon Brown. 210 00:11:11,468 --> 00:11:13,408 He's leaning in. 211 00:11:13,508 --> 00:11:17,888 I took Dave to see him, and he now wants to meet you. 212 00:11:17,988 --> 00:11:20,328 - Gordon Brown? - Gordon's been looking at your work, 213 00:11:20,428 --> 00:11:22,508 and he thinks there's a way to use it to go further. 214 00:11:23,868 --> 00:11:26,908 Come on, Nick. What's meeting him going to cost you? 215 00:11:36,869 --> 00:11:40,169 Well, it's, uh, it's wonderful to have you all here. 216 00:11:40,269 --> 00:11:43,209 Thank you, Clare and Glen for organising it. 217 00:11:43,309 --> 00:11:46,489 You know, I have such respect for the work of everyone in this room. 218 00:11:46,589 --> 00:11:48,569 And I used to be Prime Minister. There. Does that start us off? 219 00:11:48,669 --> 00:11:50,609 - Yes. - (ALL LAUGHING) 220 00:11:50,709 --> 00:11:53,570 - CLARE: Just about. - The Murdoch BSkyB bid 221 00:11:53,670 --> 00:11:56,370 would be a disaster for our country. 222 00:11:56,470 --> 00:11:57,690 This hacking investigation 223 00:11:57,790 --> 00:12:00,370 needs better scrutiny than people have chosen to give it. 224 00:12:00,470 --> 00:12:02,370 If people understood, properly understood the hacking, 225 00:12:02,470 --> 00:12:03,930 what was happening with hacking, 226 00:12:04,030 --> 00:12:06,210 it may mean they rethink the BSkyB bid. 227 00:12:06,310 --> 00:12:08,690 We have a shared objective. 228 00:12:08,790 --> 00:12:11,611 How we achieve that objective is... 229 00:12:11,711 --> 00:12:15,091 well, I increasingly believe, as does Clare 230 00:12:15,191 --> 00:12:17,351 and Tom, would be best achieved together. 231 00:12:18,551 --> 00:12:20,491 And perhaps everyone would like some tea? 232 00:12:20,591 --> 00:12:22,091 And perhaps everyone would like some tea. 233 00:12:22,191 --> 00:12:23,771 - (LAUGHS) - Just sit, sit. I'll pour. 234 00:12:23,871 --> 00:12:25,871 No, I'll pour. 235 00:12:26,231 --> 00:12:29,451 Right. Who would like to begin? 236 00:12:29,551 --> 00:12:32,412 Well, maybe I should speak first. 237 00:12:32,512 --> 00:12:35,652 I was recently interrupted in an investigation room 238 00:12:35,752 --> 00:12:38,832 and shown details of my case and Operation Weeting that were... 239 00:12:40,152 --> 00:12:42,092 Well, the level of intrusion was troubling. 240 00:12:42,192 --> 00:12:44,092 It's just possible that Operation Weeting 241 00:12:44,192 --> 00:12:46,132 is the first Met op to be run properly. 242 00:12:46,232 --> 00:12:47,532 Well, the secret is John Yates 243 00:12:47,632 --> 00:12:49,372 - isn't running it. - Good. 244 00:12:49,472 --> 00:12:52,213 Good. So, how do we help them? 245 00:12:52,313 --> 00:12:54,293 Where will they struggle? 246 00:12:54,393 --> 00:12:56,813 Well, we have to get them to include Jonathan Rees. 247 00:12:56,913 --> 00:13:00,373 It makes no sense to tackle Mulcaire and not Rees. 248 00:13:00,473 --> 00:13:01,893 I've got invoices to show 249 00:13:01,993 --> 00:13:03,853 that they were both up to exactly the same activities. 250 00:13:03,953 --> 00:13:07,453 Prepare me a file and I'll send it to Sue Akers. 251 00:13:07,553 --> 00:13:09,493 - Is it that simple? - Well, I have access 252 00:13:09,593 --> 00:13:11,093 to Sue through the Select Committee. 253 00:13:11,193 --> 00:13:15,014 I can't promise results, but it's a start, no? 254 00:13:15,114 --> 00:13:17,214 Well, Sue and I were DS's at the same time, 255 00:13:17,314 --> 00:13:18,734 I've already asked her 256 00:13:18,834 --> 00:13:21,494 to expand the scope of the investigation, but... 257 00:13:21,594 --> 00:13:25,654 It'll mean more coming from a parliamentary perspective. 258 00:13:25,754 --> 00:13:28,774 Good. What else? 259 00:13:28,874 --> 00:13:31,374 You seem to all be constantly looking at me surprised. 260 00:13:31,474 --> 00:13:33,455 Correct me if I'm wrong but the problem 261 00:13:33,555 --> 00:13:35,495 we have is that the police, politicians and press 262 00:13:35,595 --> 00:13:38,295 are all collaborating under Murdoch's aegis. 263 00:13:38,395 --> 00:13:42,135 We are also made up of police, politicians and press 264 00:13:42,235 --> 00:13:44,935 an unofficial opposition, if you like. 265 00:13:45,035 --> 00:13:48,135 So, let's talk. 266 00:13:48,235 --> 00:13:50,235 What do we need to do? 267 00:13:56,316 --> 00:13:58,096 You, uh, 268 00:13:58,196 --> 00:14:01,136 - are you having a nice time? - I'm fine. 269 00:14:01,236 --> 00:14:03,176 You know, you're a remarkable campaigner, Nick. 270 00:14:03,276 --> 00:14:06,136 Did you ever consider full time politics? 271 00:14:06,236 --> 00:14:08,616 Um... 272 00:14:08,716 --> 00:14:11,696 Well, I don't know. I don't know... Why would you say that? 273 00:14:11,796 --> 00:14:14,457 Perhaps a bit too suspicious of other people to be a politician. 274 00:14:14,557 --> 00:14:16,937 Something I struggle with myself sometimes. 275 00:14:17,037 --> 00:14:20,517 And, uh, and I believe it because I've seen it. On this case. 276 00:14:22,797 --> 00:14:24,377 You're not sure whether I mean this, are you? 277 00:14:24,477 --> 00:14:27,257 - Sorry? - You don't trust me. 278 00:14:27,357 --> 00:14:29,937 I think this is the ball that I picked up that I will quickly drop. 279 00:14:30,037 --> 00:14:32,157 You're saying you won't drop the ball? 280 00:14:35,278 --> 00:14:40,858 You know, they, um, they came at me in every way, as you might expect. 281 00:14:40,958 --> 00:14:42,658 They blagged my lawyer, 282 00:14:42,758 --> 00:14:45,218 they procured my family's medical information, 283 00:14:45,318 --> 00:14:46,978 and they, um, (LAUGHS) 284 00:14:47,078 --> 00:14:49,098 this is quite something, they impersonated me 285 00:14:49,198 --> 00:14:51,098 to get into my building society account. 286 00:14:51,198 --> 00:14:52,418 That's a lot. 287 00:14:52,518 --> 00:14:54,979 I tried to hold a judicial inquiry into phone hacking in... 288 00:14:55,079 --> 00:14:58,339 Let's see now, uh, autumn 2009, 289 00:14:58,439 --> 00:15:01,819 - after I read a piece of yours. - That was my first article. 290 00:15:01,919 --> 00:15:05,379 The civil service resisted it, I think is the kind term. 291 00:15:05,479 --> 00:15:07,599 "It did not meet the tests of public concern." 292 00:15:08,879 --> 00:15:12,059 You know, everyone, everyone thinks they're close to Rupert. 293 00:15:12,159 --> 00:15:15,820 He's very adept at that. He talks quietly, you know all this. 294 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,180 He rarely disagrees, he asks questions 295 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,220 and, uh, he makes everyone feel interesting. 296 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,820 It fascinates me how the powerful let him in. 297 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,720 I wasn't as good at it, at that game as Tony. 298 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,660 When he came for me and, uh, and he did. 299 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,301 I was, I was unprepared, 300 00:15:37,401 --> 00:15:39,461 whether it was how I bowed my head at the cenotaph 301 00:15:39,561 --> 00:15:42,101 or how I wrote to the grieving mothers of dead soldiers. 302 00:15:42,201 --> 00:15:44,921 - Yes, I remember. - You know, I rang Rupert 303 00:15:45,961 --> 00:15:50,621 to tell him that his papers were damaging morale in Afghanistan. 304 00:15:50,721 --> 00:15:53,941 As prime minister, I was asking people to fight, 305 00:15:54,041 --> 00:15:56,742 to risk, and he was telling them article after article 306 00:15:56,842 --> 00:15:59,502 that I was casual with their lives, with soldiers' life. 307 00:15:59,602 --> 00:16:02,182 That I didn't care. To undermine that, 308 00:16:02,282 --> 00:16:04,682 to make those young people feel... 309 00:16:07,242 --> 00:16:09,242 undervalued by their government. 310 00:16:11,602 --> 00:16:13,602 It's just not right. 311 00:16:18,323 --> 00:16:19,423 Sometimes you can tell 312 00:16:19,523 --> 00:16:21,883 - that you're the son of a preacher. - (LAUGHS) 313 00:16:24,203 --> 00:16:27,923 You know he wants everything, his ambition is limitless. 314 00:16:30,043 --> 00:16:32,883 But he's overstepped here. And badly. 315 00:16:34,443 --> 00:16:38,164 We can and we should do something important to counter him. 316 00:16:39,484 --> 00:16:41,484 But this started with you 317 00:16:42,004 --> 00:16:44,004 and it's going to need to end with you. 318 00:16:45,564 --> 00:16:49,884 All of which is to say, we need you, Nick. 319 00:16:58,885 --> 00:17:01,805 - Dave. Dave. - Yes, sir. 320 00:17:03,125 --> 00:17:06,665 - How's life at SOCA? - We're getting somewhere today. 321 00:17:06,765 --> 00:17:09,785 Did I hear you've been giving orders to GCHQ? That must be fun. 322 00:17:09,885 --> 00:17:12,545 It's a bit more complicated than that. 323 00:17:12,645 --> 00:17:14,665 What can I do for you, John? 324 00:17:14,765 --> 00:17:16,746 Would you mind popping into mine for a minute? 325 00:17:16,846 --> 00:17:18,066 Sure. 326 00:17:18,166 --> 00:17:22,206 Internal Investigations caught an email coming from your computer 327 00:17:23,246 --> 00:17:25,886 - to Mike Sullivan at The Sun. - Which email? 328 00:17:30,406 --> 00:17:31,466 So, why is this a problem? 329 00:17:31,566 --> 00:17:32,866 I said you'd rather be told it by me-- 330 00:17:32,966 --> 00:17:34,946 Well, he was useful on Morgan, he's still useful now. 331 00:17:35,046 --> 00:17:36,146 I mean, you've got a good relationship 332 00:17:36,246 --> 00:17:37,187 with him yourself, haven't you? 333 00:17:37,287 --> 00:17:38,427 I also have one or two questions 334 00:17:38,527 --> 00:17:40,267 about the Panorama programme that went out. 335 00:17:40,367 --> 00:17:42,067 - Yeah. - I believe you're friends 336 00:17:42,167 --> 00:17:43,907 with Glen Campbell at Panorama. 337 00:17:44,007 --> 00:17:46,467 - I have been. - Do you think you could ask him 338 00:17:46,567 --> 00:17:49,147 how he got footage of Jonathan Rees at his computer? 339 00:17:49,247 --> 00:17:51,187 Well, he's quite protective of his sources. 340 00:17:51,287 --> 00:17:53,467 Rees is convinced, as am I, 341 00:17:53,567 --> 00:17:55,667 that the footage could only have come from inside the Met. 342 00:17:55,767 --> 00:17:58,748 He's threatening to take action. Again. 343 00:17:58,848 --> 00:18:01,748 Did it? Come from inside the Met? 344 00:18:01,848 --> 00:18:04,508 - Is that a further-- - The request to pass information 345 00:18:04,608 --> 00:18:05,868 to Mike Sullivan came from you. 346 00:18:05,968 --> 00:18:08,468 - I mean, he's your mate. - But there are rules, Dave, 347 00:18:08,568 --> 00:18:10,908 - and you know that. - I do. 348 00:18:11,008 --> 00:18:15,388 And how's Operation Weeting treating you, Mr Rules? 349 00:18:15,488 --> 00:18:20,869 Give Panorama, Mike Sullivan, Nick Davies or anyone fucking else, 350 00:18:20,969 --> 00:18:22,989 anything about our cases 351 00:18:23,089 --> 00:18:24,629 and you'll be strung up for all to see. 352 00:18:24,729 --> 00:18:28,329 - Do you hear me? - Yeah, I hear you. 353 00:18:35,129 --> 00:18:37,950 I've got permission to talk about it with you and you alone. 354 00:18:38,050 --> 00:18:40,190 - I am privileged. - That means private meetings, 355 00:18:40,290 --> 00:18:42,390 you and I, outside of editorial. 356 00:18:42,490 --> 00:18:44,790 Of course. When have we not had those? 357 00:18:44,890 --> 00:18:48,830 - Welcome back. - Alan. Our Scottish friend, 358 00:18:48,930 --> 00:18:50,930 you know him better than I do. 359 00:18:53,530 --> 00:18:56,950 - We can trust him, right? - I want to say two things. 360 00:18:57,050 --> 00:19:00,191 One, you're a journalist 361 00:19:00,291 --> 00:19:04,951 and I am scared that getting into bed with certain politicians 362 00:19:05,051 --> 00:19:08,511 - we'll lose our vital independence. - You do it all the time. 363 00:19:08,611 --> 00:19:11,391 I share my bed with all political parties 364 00:19:11,491 --> 00:19:15,771 and I hope I'm pretty fair at sharing the covers. 365 00:19:21,252 --> 00:19:24,232 Nick, we've just removed 366 00:19:24,332 --> 00:19:26,392 a senior member of Conservative staff, 367 00:19:26,492 --> 00:19:27,952 and I don't want that dismissed 368 00:19:28,052 --> 00:19:30,392 as coming from the newspaper arm of the Labour group. 369 00:19:30,492 --> 00:19:32,432 Yeah, understood. But I asked about Gordon. 370 00:19:32,532 --> 00:19:35,192 And that's the second thing. 371 00:19:35,292 --> 00:19:37,472 You don't go into a room with Gordon Brown 372 00:19:37,572 --> 00:19:38,793 and get what you want, 373 00:19:38,893 --> 00:19:40,873 you go into a room and get what he wants. 374 00:19:40,973 --> 00:19:45,713 He's ferociously intelligent, and very used to power. 375 00:19:45,813 --> 00:19:51,933 But if your interests align, as I think they do here, 376 00:19:53,533 --> 00:19:55,533 he can be a remarkable ally. 377 00:19:57,013 --> 00:20:00,794 - One last push, is it? - And then I want Brussels. 378 00:20:00,894 --> 00:20:04,234 And then you want your well-paid chocolate dream. 379 00:20:04,334 --> 00:20:06,354 Of course. Good. 380 00:20:06,454 --> 00:20:08,914 But please Nick, take it slow. 381 00:20:09,014 --> 00:20:11,394 To work. What have you got? 382 00:20:11,494 --> 00:20:13,594 The flood of cases is overwhelming the courts. 383 00:20:13,694 --> 00:20:15,634 So, they've just appointed a Hacking Judge. 384 00:20:15,734 --> 00:20:16,674 He's already causing trouble. 385 00:20:16,774 --> 00:20:18,394 At the Andy Gray trial, he said it's clear 386 00:20:18,494 --> 00:20:20,475 Mulcaire had been regularly hacking him. 387 00:20:20,575 --> 00:20:23,795 So that's an invitation. Any man, woman or creature 388 00:20:23,895 --> 00:20:27,355 who has anything in those books has been given license to sue. 389 00:20:27,455 --> 00:20:29,535 - And you'll write it up? - Yeah. 390 00:20:32,815 --> 00:20:35,195 Why do you think they gave us this? 391 00:20:35,295 --> 00:20:37,435 Huh? For good journalism. 392 00:20:37,535 --> 00:20:40,916 None of them support the story, our story. 393 00:20:41,016 --> 00:20:44,816 Guilt, the world's most powerful motive. 394 00:20:47,896 --> 00:20:50,516 - I love you, darling. - Yeah. I love you too. 395 00:20:50,616 --> 00:20:52,876 - Dinner's in an hour. - Okay. 396 00:20:52,976 --> 00:20:55,056 It's mac and cheese. 397 00:20:56,536 --> 00:20:59,556 She's not been sleeping very well. 398 00:20:59,656 --> 00:21:02,597 I've been making her leave her phone downstairs most nights, 399 00:21:02,697 --> 00:21:05,157 I'm not sure you'll get away with that. 400 00:21:05,257 --> 00:21:07,077 I'll do my best. 401 00:21:07,177 --> 00:21:09,177 Also, um... 402 00:21:11,097 --> 00:21:14,217 I've been contacted by Operation Weeting. 403 00:21:15,497 --> 00:21:19,537 - Oh, have you? - You knew then? 404 00:21:23,418 --> 00:21:25,038 The things they had on me. 405 00:21:25,138 --> 00:21:26,238 I know. I'm sorry. 406 00:21:26,338 --> 00:21:28,338 - I should have warned you. - Yeah. 407 00:21:31,738 --> 00:21:34,038 - Yates came after me today. - And? 408 00:21:34,138 --> 00:21:37,198 - Didn't land a punch. - Good. 409 00:21:37,298 --> 00:21:40,478 They're keeping me at arms length, 410 00:21:40,578 --> 00:21:43,359 but they did tell me a few pieces of useful information. 411 00:21:43,459 --> 00:21:47,919 You remember that time Surrey police got a call fishing for my details. 412 00:21:48,019 --> 00:21:50,859 - Mm-hm. - Well, Weeting told me that, um, 413 00:21:51,899 --> 00:21:54,319 it was probably Mulcaire who made that call. 414 00:21:54,419 --> 00:21:56,419 Jesus Christ. 415 00:21:59,139 --> 00:22:02,140 I don't think anyone's understood the depth of criminality here. 416 00:22:03,180 --> 00:22:05,400 Destabilising police investigations, 417 00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:08,240 we're talking about a murder charge being... 418 00:22:08,340 --> 00:22:10,420 Yeah. Look, who I'm telling, right? 419 00:22:11,620 --> 00:22:13,820 - Please don't laugh at me about this. - I'm not. 420 00:22:14,900 --> 00:22:16,900 I'm not. 421 00:22:18,740 --> 00:22:20,160 You know, right at the beginning of this, 422 00:22:20,260 --> 00:22:22,261 I went to see Rebekah Brooks. 423 00:22:23,661 --> 00:22:27,421 And I said, what you're doing is outrageous. 424 00:22:28,781 --> 00:22:31,401 And you know what she said? 425 00:22:31,501 --> 00:22:32,801 She said, "We believed 426 00:22:32,901 --> 00:22:35,321 that you and Jackie were having an affair, 427 00:22:35,421 --> 00:22:40,361 and as you're both public figures, public interest was on our side." 428 00:22:40,461 --> 00:22:42,442 They thought we were having an affair 429 00:22:42,542 --> 00:22:44,542 - when we were already married? - Ridiculous. 430 00:22:46,382 --> 00:22:48,782 - Absurd. - Cruel, I think is a better word. 431 00:22:52,742 --> 00:22:54,742 Yeah. 432 00:22:55,862 --> 00:22:59,562 I have a source in the police who's been quite openly victimised. 433 00:22:59,662 --> 00:23:03,163 Might stop the whining celebrity angle. 434 00:23:03,263 --> 00:23:05,323 What whining celebrity angle? 435 00:23:05,423 --> 00:23:07,363 People dismissing it because they think 436 00:23:07,463 --> 00:23:10,243 it's just celebrities whining. Get him on the record. 437 00:23:10,343 --> 00:23:11,883 It's just, he's been badly damaged 438 00:23:11,983 --> 00:23:14,103 - by all this already. - You're Nick Davies? 439 00:23:15,623 --> 00:23:18,323 Only on weekdays. Have we met? How can I help? 440 00:23:18,423 --> 00:23:19,483 By telling me what the fuck 441 00:23:19,583 --> 00:23:21,583 you think you're doing stealing my story? 442 00:23:23,264 --> 00:23:25,264 Can we use your office? 443 00:23:30,904 --> 00:23:34,724 - Which story have I stolen? - Apparently, you're Mr Hacking. 444 00:23:34,824 --> 00:23:35,964 Every hacking story 445 00:23:36,064 --> 00:23:38,064 - carries your byline. - It doesn't. 446 00:23:38,824 --> 00:23:40,884 Today. In the paper. Published. 447 00:23:40,984 --> 00:23:43,785 - You didn't write one word of it. - No. 448 00:23:45,585 --> 00:23:49,465 - Well, aren't you going to apologise? - No. 449 00:23:52,145 --> 00:23:54,645 You know, The Guardian gives out all this shit 450 00:23:54,745 --> 00:23:56,765 about what kind of world it wants, and yet-- 451 00:23:56,865 --> 00:23:59,525 - This is well written. - Fuck off. 452 00:23:59,625 --> 00:24:02,565 I didn't ask for a credit on it. Whoever said I did was wrong. 453 00:24:02,665 --> 00:24:04,526 Right, then, who do we see next? 454 00:24:04,626 --> 00:24:06,606 - Alan? - Bold, don't you think? 455 00:24:06,706 --> 00:24:08,686 Writing a story about the hacking scandal 456 00:24:08,786 --> 00:24:09,886 without consulting someone 457 00:24:09,986 --> 00:24:12,946 who spent the last three years having his life destroyed by it? 458 00:24:15,106 --> 00:24:16,566 Is this what works for you? 459 00:24:16,666 --> 00:24:18,606 When you're attacked you just attack back? 460 00:24:18,706 --> 00:24:19,926 No. Sometimes. 461 00:24:20,026 --> 00:24:21,966 Maybe. You could have something there. 462 00:24:22,066 --> 00:24:25,767 This is about Operation Weeting, it's a totally different thing. 463 00:24:25,867 --> 00:24:28,387 How come I haven't seen you round the offices before? 464 00:24:29,787 --> 00:24:33,447 I work alone. My own hours. They're supportive of it. 465 00:24:33,547 --> 00:24:35,287 And what have you got on Weeting? 466 00:24:35,387 --> 00:24:37,967 A contact of mine in the force has been put on it. 467 00:24:38,067 --> 00:24:39,927 He's feeding me. 468 00:24:40,027 --> 00:24:41,967 - Tell me everything. - No. 469 00:24:42,067 --> 00:24:44,068 (LAUGHS) 470 00:24:45,548 --> 00:24:49,648 He says it's timid. He's eager for more action. 471 00:24:49,748 --> 00:24:52,508 - What's he giving you? - Each arrest as it happens. 472 00:24:53,788 --> 00:24:55,008 Neville Thurlbeck is going to be 473 00:24:55,108 --> 00:24:56,848 at Kingston Police Station between nine and ten, 474 00:24:56,948 --> 00:24:59,488 so, I'm there conveniently for the arrest. 475 00:24:59,588 --> 00:25:04,129 Can you... might you tell your source, 476 00:25:04,229 --> 00:25:06,929 um, tell him to look into the initial Select Committee hearings, 477 00:25:07,029 --> 00:25:09,729 in particular the letter they got from the News International lawyers. 478 00:25:09,829 --> 00:25:13,189 Because there's disclosures in that the police never got the answer to. 479 00:25:16,829 --> 00:25:19,729 Thanks. I will. 480 00:25:19,829 --> 00:25:23,929 Would it be so bad, us working together? 481 00:25:24,029 --> 00:25:26,150 - (KNOCKING) - You need to see this. 482 00:25:27,150 --> 00:25:29,930 REPORTER 1: Here's Ben Rosier in Wapping with more on this story. 483 00:25:30,030 --> 00:25:31,210 REPORTER 2: First, the denials 484 00:25:31,310 --> 00:25:33,850 that celebrity voicemail messages were listened to, 485 00:25:33,950 --> 00:25:36,570 then they claim it was down to a single rogue reporter 486 00:25:36,670 --> 00:25:38,810 - and a private investigator sidekick. - What? 487 00:25:38,910 --> 00:25:40,250 Now the admission, 488 00:25:40,350 --> 00:25:42,650 "We failed to uncover what was going on." 489 00:25:42,750 --> 00:25:45,491 "We're going to apologise, and we're going to pay up." 490 00:25:45,591 --> 00:25:48,531 - Fuck. - Absolutely right. 491 00:25:48,631 --> 00:25:52,051 What exactly are The News of the World admitting to? 492 00:25:52,151 --> 00:25:54,851 - It's brilliant. - Is it? 493 00:25:54,951 --> 00:25:57,891 Well, by admitting they're at fault, and agreeing to cooperate, 494 00:25:57,991 --> 00:26:00,731 in fact, what they're doing is they're finding a new device 495 00:26:00,831 --> 00:26:03,811 for concealing the truth. Nick, will it be cheaper? 496 00:26:03,911 --> 00:26:05,092 Uh, standard-rate damages 497 00:26:05,192 --> 00:26:07,332 rather than the million-pound hush money they've had to pay out. 498 00:26:07,432 --> 00:26:10,572 And getting this out in court now is next to impossible. Am I right? 499 00:26:10,672 --> 00:26:14,172 Well, if you are... Uh, for instance, Sienna Miller 500 00:26:14,272 --> 00:26:16,212 and you do take it to trial, 501 00:26:16,312 --> 00:26:18,972 then if she ends up getting less at trial 502 00:26:19,072 --> 00:26:21,212 than they offered her before, then she risks being ordered 503 00:26:21,312 --> 00:26:24,412 to pay both side's costs, which could be astronomical. 504 00:26:24,512 --> 00:26:27,813 And so... Then, yes, it makes getting to trial almost impossible. 505 00:26:27,913 --> 00:26:30,653 - Shit. - My advice is... 506 00:26:30,753 --> 00:26:33,413 They've twisted one way, we must twist another. 507 00:26:33,513 --> 00:26:36,333 I've had a reply from Sue Akers on Rees. 508 00:26:36,433 --> 00:26:38,373 She's shutting you down? 509 00:26:38,473 --> 00:26:40,693 She says her remit is limited 510 00:26:40,793 --> 00:26:43,373 to Mulcaire and the notebooks. She isn't going near Rees. 511 00:26:43,473 --> 00:26:46,654 Should we try to leak something? Put pressure on that way. 512 00:26:46,754 --> 00:26:49,134 I've got Rees specifically targeting Kate Middleton. 513 00:26:49,234 --> 00:26:51,174 I've just heard he targeted John Yates. 514 00:26:51,274 --> 00:26:56,014 Or we could... Do you think... If we twisted an arm or two, 515 00:26:56,114 --> 00:26:58,854 do you think we could get me up the list for PMQs? 516 00:26:58,954 --> 00:27:02,614 - Ah. That's a very good idea. - I'm not following. 517 00:27:02,714 --> 00:27:04,654 What does Sue Akers want? 518 00:27:04,754 --> 00:27:07,295 To be free to take the evidence wherever it leads her, 519 00:27:07,395 --> 00:27:09,695 with a swift prod from the left. 520 00:27:09,795 --> 00:27:12,375 Maybe the Prime Minister will extend her brief. 521 00:27:12,475 --> 00:27:16,055 - You could even name Rees. - Oh. Good. Good. 522 00:27:16,155 --> 00:27:19,555 Hang on. All of this exposes Dave to scrutiny again. 523 00:27:21,435 --> 00:27:24,135 - I'm ready. - Tom, can I help? 524 00:27:24,235 --> 00:27:27,256 - Please do. - Good. Good. 525 00:27:27,356 --> 00:27:29,296 Let's box Cameron in. 526 00:27:29,396 --> 00:27:31,336 As the Prime Minister has previously said, 527 00:27:31,436 --> 00:27:34,896 the hacking inquiry should go where the evidence takes it. 528 00:27:34,996 --> 00:27:38,056 The Metropolitan Police are in possession of paperwork, 529 00:27:38,156 --> 00:27:39,536 which details the dealings 530 00:27:39,636 --> 00:27:42,296 of criminal private investigator Jonathan Rees. 531 00:27:42,396 --> 00:27:45,656 It strongly suggests that on behalf of News International, 532 00:27:45,756 --> 00:27:48,577 he was illegally targeting members of the royal family, 533 00:27:48,677 --> 00:27:52,177 senior politicians and high level terrorist informers. 534 00:27:52,277 --> 00:27:55,657 Yet the head of Operation Weeting has recently written to me 535 00:27:55,757 --> 00:27:57,137 to explain that this evidence 536 00:27:57,237 --> 00:28:00,097 may be outside the inquiry's terms of reference. 537 00:28:00,197 --> 00:28:01,817 Prime Minister, 538 00:28:01,917 --> 00:28:04,957 I believe powerful forces are involved in a cover-up. 539 00:28:06,517 --> 00:28:09,778 Please, please tell me what you intend to do 540 00:28:09,878 --> 00:28:11,878 to make sure that this doesn't happen. 541 00:28:14,198 --> 00:28:16,298 The point I'd make to the honourable gentleman 542 00:28:16,398 --> 00:28:19,978 who I Know takes a close interest in this, is there is a police inquiry. 543 00:28:20,078 --> 00:28:22,298 A police inquiry doesn't need terms of reference. 544 00:28:22,398 --> 00:28:25,018 The police are free to investigate the evidence 545 00:28:25,118 --> 00:28:27,058 and take that wherever it leads them 546 00:28:27,158 --> 00:28:29,759 and then mount a prosecution with the CPS. 547 00:28:31,879 --> 00:28:33,859 - Amelia. Hi. - Sorry, go in. 548 00:28:33,959 --> 00:28:36,179 Sorry. A bit weird to wait for people outside toilets. 549 00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:38,219 - Oh, I've done worse. - Got a minute? 550 00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:41,779 - Sure. - Two inquiries are being set up. 551 00:28:41,879 --> 00:28:43,059 Operation Tuleta, 552 00:28:43,159 --> 00:28:44,859 looking specifically into Jonathan Rees. 553 00:28:44,959 --> 00:28:46,899 - Good. - Operation Elveden-- 554 00:28:46,999 --> 00:28:49,220 I can never get over Scotland Yard's need for strange names. 555 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,900 To investigate the alleged payment of bribes to police officers 556 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,500 and other officials from journalists from the News of the World. 557 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,980 - What's made them do this? - You didn't see Tom Watson's speech? 558 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,820 - Oh, I may have done. - Did you write it? 559 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,920 (LAUGHS) 560 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,261 Also, the Select Committee wading you suggested to my officer, 561 00:29:10,361 --> 00:29:12,541 - let's call him... - Jingle. 562 00:29:12,641 --> 00:29:14,881 Fine. It proved fruitful. 563 00:29:16,121 --> 00:29:18,941 Operation Weeting forced some e-mails out of News International. 564 00:29:19,041 --> 00:29:20,301 And the Met discovered on their servers 565 00:29:20,401 --> 00:29:22,141 some systematic deletions. 566 00:29:22,241 --> 00:29:23,941 - Of course. - In particular, 567 00:29:24,041 --> 00:29:27,021 one enormous deletion in January. 568 00:29:27,121 --> 00:29:28,822 While they were handing over 569 00:29:28,922 --> 00:29:32,302 those three e-mails from Ian Edmondson? Bastards! 570 00:29:32,402 --> 00:29:35,222 - Can we print? - I'm... I'm working on it. 571 00:29:35,322 --> 00:29:38,622 Look, Jingle was grateful for the advice. 572 00:29:38,722 --> 00:29:42,102 He said he can't volunteer information on active cases, 573 00:29:42,202 --> 00:29:44,402 but ask him a question, he'll tell no lies. 574 00:29:52,443 --> 00:29:53,703 We've had something interesting come up. 575 00:29:53,803 --> 00:29:54,863 What is Judge Voss doing? 576 00:29:54,963 --> 00:29:57,143 I feel like we've only seen a tiny percent of Mulcaire's note. 577 00:29:57,243 --> 00:29:59,983 Voss is being robust with everyone. It's yielding fruit. 578 00:30:00,083 --> 00:30:02,623 - Sienna Miller is being typically-- - The Sky Andrew case feels important. 579 00:30:02,723 --> 00:30:03,943 - Where are we-- - Nick, I've got something, 580 00:30:04,043 --> 00:30:06,063 if you're interested, but you will need to listen. 581 00:30:06,163 --> 00:30:08,163 Sorry. Go on. 582 00:30:10,604 --> 00:30:13,544 I've been representing, as you know, Leslie Ash and Lee Chapman. 583 00:30:13,644 --> 00:30:14,664 Yeah, I read about it. 584 00:30:14,764 --> 00:30:16,764 - You're doing brilliantly. - (CHUCKLES) 585 00:30:17,844 --> 00:30:20,024 You're like my ex, you always get complimentary 586 00:30:20,124 --> 00:30:22,464 when you know you're in the wrong. 587 00:30:22,564 --> 00:30:24,564 Sorry. I am sorry. 588 00:30:26,204 --> 00:30:28,144 I heard you were a mess. 589 00:30:28,244 --> 00:30:31,185 Oh, fine. I can see an island of sanity. 590 00:30:31,285 --> 00:30:34,085 I'm... I'm floating close to it. Go on. 591 00:30:38,845 --> 00:30:40,785 I went to Putney so that the rooting officers 592 00:30:40,885 --> 00:30:43,345 could show me the notes Mulcaire had taken from Leslie Ash 593 00:30:43,445 --> 00:30:45,185 - and Lee Chapman's voicemail. - Yeah. 594 00:30:45,285 --> 00:30:51,746 And some genius combined the two names 595 00:30:51,846 --> 00:30:55,006 and gave me the details of Leslie Chapman. 596 00:30:56,646 --> 00:30:59,566 - NICK: Remind me. - Jessica Chapman's father. 597 00:31:00,606 --> 00:31:02,666 Jessica Chapman was one of the murdered schoolgirls, right? 598 00:31:02,766 --> 00:31:04,666 The Soham murders? 599 00:31:04,766 --> 00:31:07,706 It looks like Leslie Chapman's voicemail was hacked. 600 00:31:07,806 --> 00:31:09,947 They hacked the voicemail of a grieving father? 601 00:31:10,047 --> 00:31:14,967 I'm not sure, but it looks that way. You can't use it. Yet. 602 00:31:16,887 --> 00:31:19,947 - This could change everything. - I need to talk to the family. 603 00:31:20,047 --> 00:31:24,067 I need permissions. I need to be sure. 604 00:31:24,167 --> 00:31:25,547 The Chapman family, I could talk to them. 605 00:31:25,647 --> 00:31:27,647 That's not why I'm telling you this. 606 00:31:28,727 --> 00:31:32,468 Nick, think. If they're doing this to the Chapmans... 607 00:31:32,568 --> 00:31:35,488 - Where else have they been? - Exactly. 608 00:31:41,648 --> 00:31:43,588 NICK: Jessica Chapman. 609 00:31:43,688 --> 00:31:47,148 The Soham murders tore the police apart for a while. 610 00:31:47,248 --> 00:31:49,748 She's sure they were in the parents' phone? 611 00:31:49,848 --> 00:31:52,789 It's in Mulcaire's notebooks. But I can't get in there. 612 00:31:52,889 --> 00:31:55,509 - I've got to find another way in. - You will. 613 00:31:55,609 --> 00:31:59,769 - I envy your confidence. - No, just, um... 614 00:32:02,969 --> 00:32:04,969 I'm just happy to have you back. 615 00:32:08,169 --> 00:32:10,990 - I thought that was better. - Sometimes. (GRUNTS) 616 00:32:11,090 --> 00:32:13,090 It comes and goes. 617 00:32:14,930 --> 00:32:16,870 Are you just frying that cheese? 618 00:32:16,970 --> 00:32:18,070 It's halloumi cheese. 619 00:32:18,170 --> 00:32:20,230 - You'll like it. - I'm not hungry anymore. 620 00:32:20,330 --> 00:32:21,670 - What? - No, it's just that I don't get it. 621 00:32:21,770 --> 00:32:22,950 I mean... 622 00:32:23,050 --> 00:32:25,090 I eat when I know that I have to eat. 623 00:32:26,410 --> 00:32:28,630 I just don't get hungry anymore. 624 00:32:28,730 --> 00:32:30,670 - Don't. - What? 625 00:32:30,770 --> 00:32:32,751 - With that sympathy look. - I'm not being sympathetic. 626 00:32:32,851 --> 00:32:35,231 Don't try and pretend you're in any better state than me. 627 00:32:35,331 --> 00:32:37,831 I've seen you, mate. You are this close to total collapse. 628 00:32:37,931 --> 00:32:39,231 - I'm telling you. - You know the story 629 00:32:39,331 --> 00:32:40,391 of the dung beetle? 630 00:32:40,491 --> 00:32:42,591 Oh, God. Have I stooped that low? 631 00:32:42,691 --> 00:32:44,871 - What? - It's what you trot out. 632 00:32:44,971 --> 00:32:48,031 You trot out that story quite a lot, you know. Ask your kids. 633 00:32:48,131 --> 00:32:50,831 Christ, pity your kids. Whatever's going on-- 634 00:32:50,931 --> 00:32:53,632 - Have you heard of the dung beetle? - An aggressive response. 635 00:32:53,732 --> 00:32:56,112 - (LAUGHS) - Come on. 636 00:32:56,212 --> 00:32:59,212 - That'll make you hungry. - Thank you. 637 00:33:02,612 --> 00:33:04,612 - You want to know how I do it? - Hmm. 638 00:33:05,612 --> 00:33:09,172 I focus on the details. Always the next detail. 639 00:33:10,812 --> 00:33:13,613 I've been phobic of blood ever since a body exploded on me. 640 00:33:14,773 --> 00:33:16,553 - Body exploded on you? - Yeah, well, 641 00:33:16,653 --> 00:33:18,313 an older man full of hernias. 642 00:33:18,413 --> 00:33:23,593 Normally, when a pathologist scalpel enters a cadaver, you hear a hiss. 643 00:33:23,693 --> 00:33:26,513 Well, this time he exploded. 644 00:33:26,613 --> 00:33:28,953 Blood was everywhere, I was covered in it. 645 00:33:29,053 --> 00:33:30,633 I was in homicide. So going to pathology 646 00:33:30,733 --> 00:33:33,074 is a key part of my job, right? 647 00:33:33,174 --> 00:33:35,174 So I focused on the details. 648 00:33:36,174 --> 00:33:38,174 Ears, toes. 649 00:33:39,774 --> 00:33:41,774 Even how the wound looked. 650 00:33:42,854 --> 00:33:44,854 The blood, I made disappear. 651 00:33:49,574 --> 00:33:51,574 So how do you do it, Nick? 652 00:34:19,496 --> 00:34:21,496 (KEYBOARD CLACKING) 653 00:34:41,657 --> 00:34:43,657 Tell me I'm mad. 654 00:34:44,897 --> 00:34:46,837 - With pleasure. - I was in the database. 655 00:34:46,937 --> 00:34:49,637 News of the World, April 14th, 2002. 656 00:34:49,737 --> 00:34:51,717 Two hundred fifty words long, page nine. 657 00:34:51,817 --> 00:34:53,437 It claims that voicemail messages 658 00:34:53,537 --> 00:34:56,498 were sent to Milly's phone after she disappeared. 659 00:34:57,858 --> 00:34:59,798 Milly Dowler. 660 00:34:59,898 --> 00:35:01,478 "Police say voicemails were left 661 00:35:01,578 --> 00:35:05,118 by a mentally disturbed woman who was hoaxed previous inquiries." 662 00:35:05,218 --> 00:35:07,838 It even quotes what the voicemail said. 663 00:35:07,938 --> 00:35:11,038 "Uh, hello. We're ringing because we have some interviews starting. 664 00:35:11,138 --> 00:35:13,138 Can you call me back? Thank you. Bye-bye." 665 00:35:16,219 --> 00:35:18,739 This is six days after Milly had disappeared. 666 00:35:22,499 --> 00:35:24,539 Final edition of the paper. 667 00:35:26,179 --> 00:35:28,179 That reference was removed. 668 00:35:32,899 --> 00:35:35,440 Because they might have realised what a boo-boo they had made. 669 00:35:35,540 --> 00:35:36,600 Charlotte has evidence 670 00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:40,080 that they hacked Jessica Chapman's father on the Soham case. 671 00:35:40,180 --> 00:35:42,680 We can't get close to that, that was the family... 672 00:35:42,780 --> 00:35:46,340 - But this is the girl herself. - Rebekah was editor then. 673 00:35:47,740 --> 00:35:49,740 This was under her aegis. 674 00:35:51,980 --> 00:35:54,220 - (STUTTERING) Can you confirm this? - I think so. 675 00:35:59,181 --> 00:36:01,501 Is this as big as I think it is? 676 00:36:03,021 --> 00:36:05,021 Yes, it is. 677 00:36:07,221 --> 00:36:09,541 Make sure it stands up. 678 00:36:15,382 --> 00:36:17,082 NICK: Yeah, hi. Any fruit? 679 00:36:17,182 --> 00:36:18,722 AMELIA: Jingle says they've been investigating. 680 00:36:18,822 --> 00:36:21,042 Is that confirmation? Are they confirming that it happened? 681 00:36:21,142 --> 00:36:24,062 Yes. There is a page on Dowler in Mulcaire's notebooks. 682 00:36:25,222 --> 00:36:27,842 Right. We need to be absolutely watertight. 683 00:36:27,942 --> 00:36:30,762 Nick, he also says they're pursuing a line of inquiry, 684 00:36:30,862 --> 00:36:34,042 they deleted messages because the voice mailbox was full. 685 00:36:34,142 --> 00:36:35,843 They deleted messages? 686 00:36:35,943 --> 00:36:38,083 I'll get us a firm anonymous quote from Jingle. 687 00:36:38,183 --> 00:36:40,223 - Okay, thanks Amelia. Bye-bye. - Bye. 688 00:36:42,303 --> 00:36:45,283 I have a source from inside Weeting, I've got the article. Glen. 689 00:36:45,383 --> 00:36:46,683 I've got a good source saying 690 00:36:46,783 --> 00:36:49,263 that Surrey police knew about it and the Dowler family did not. 691 00:36:50,423 --> 00:36:53,203 Well, this is it. This is it. 692 00:36:53,303 --> 00:36:56,644 I don't want to believe, but I do. 693 00:36:56,744 --> 00:36:59,244 The source is clear. Stuart Kuttner... 694 00:36:59,344 --> 00:37:01,884 - Remember him? - ...even called Surrey police. 695 00:37:01,984 --> 00:37:04,124 He didn't just hear the voicemail, he followed up on it. 696 00:37:04,224 --> 00:37:06,724 They even think they deleted her answerphone messages 697 00:37:06,824 --> 00:37:09,444 to allow space for messages to be given. 698 00:37:09,544 --> 00:37:10,644 Which made the family think 699 00:37:10,744 --> 00:37:12,564 - she was still alive. - Oh, God. 700 00:37:12,664 --> 00:37:16,585 Do you know if we can land this, this changes everything. 701 00:37:17,585 --> 00:37:22,285 - How? - A child? A dead child's phone? 702 00:37:22,385 --> 00:37:24,765 It's despicable. You know, part of the British public 703 00:37:24,865 --> 00:37:26,485 think that celebrities, politicians, 704 00:37:26,585 --> 00:37:28,445 journalists even deserve everything they get. 705 00:37:28,545 --> 00:37:33,625 But when an innocent is harmed, an innocent already wronged. 706 00:37:34,625 --> 00:37:38,926 Trust me, the News of the World won't be forgiven for this. 707 00:37:39,026 --> 00:37:41,586 (PHONE BUZZING) 708 00:37:44,066 --> 00:37:46,066 Hi, this is Dave. Leave a message. 709 00:37:47,466 --> 00:37:51,486 David, I've been offered to go on to Channel 4. 710 00:37:51,586 --> 00:37:53,886 I don't have a career to protect, and I think I should do it. 711 00:37:53,986 --> 00:37:55,926 If you have a problem with any of this, 712 00:37:56,026 --> 00:37:58,747 could you just call me or text me, please? Thank you. 713 00:38:29,628 --> 00:38:31,888 - (DOOR OPENING) - Mrs Dowler? 714 00:38:31,988 --> 00:38:33,488 - My name is Nick Davies. - I know. 715 00:38:33,588 --> 00:38:35,248 They said you'd be coming by. 716 00:38:35,348 --> 00:38:37,389 I've just been watching you on YouTube. 717 00:38:38,469 --> 00:38:40,469 - Come on. Come in. - Thank you. 718 00:38:47,549 --> 00:38:49,549 Thank you. 719 00:38:51,389 --> 00:38:54,349 - So the police are keeping you-- - Up to date with it all, yes. 720 00:38:56,109 --> 00:38:57,289 Operation Weeting, 721 00:38:57,389 --> 00:38:59,590 - good team, it seems. - They say it was true. 722 00:39:00,990 --> 00:39:02,990 Our daughter was hacked. 723 00:39:04,110 --> 00:39:07,830 - Yes. - Can you tell us why? 724 00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:11,930 Why? Sorry? 725 00:39:12,030 --> 00:39:15,390 What we don't understand is why someone would do this. 726 00:39:16,710 --> 00:39:18,911 You're a journalist. Can you explain? 727 00:39:25,431 --> 00:39:27,591 I think they thought there was a good story in it. 728 00:39:29,111 --> 00:39:31,291 A good story? 729 00:39:31,391 --> 00:39:34,331 They wanted to... either to find her, 730 00:39:34,431 --> 00:39:37,331 or to find something printable about her. 731 00:39:37,431 --> 00:39:40,212 So, the phone promised all those things. 732 00:39:40,312 --> 00:39:43,392 But we'd only just lost her, didn't they know it was wrong? 733 00:39:45,952 --> 00:39:48,012 I think they didn't consider that. 734 00:39:48,112 --> 00:39:50,432 Didn't they know it would hurt us? 735 00:39:55,152 --> 00:39:57,152 Milly... 736 00:39:58,993 --> 00:40:01,753 At that time, Milly was the most famous person in the UK, 737 00:40:02,753 --> 00:40:04,793 and everyone wanted to read about her. 738 00:40:07,433 --> 00:40:09,833 And I'm afraid they needed to sell their newspaper. 739 00:40:11,273 --> 00:40:13,813 And now you're here. 740 00:40:13,913 --> 00:40:16,713 - As someone else selling a newspaper. - I am. 741 00:40:20,394 --> 00:40:25,074 Yes, but I'm hoping what we are doing... 742 00:40:27,994 --> 00:40:32,014 will help expose a wrong that was done to your daughter. 743 00:40:32,114 --> 00:40:34,754 However, yes, I, uh, we are selling newspapers, 744 00:40:35,914 --> 00:40:38,974 and I know that all this will be bringing her 745 00:40:39,074 --> 00:40:41,015 back into the spotlight again, 746 00:40:41,115 --> 00:40:43,115 - and I know-- - That's painful? 747 00:40:45,075 --> 00:40:47,955 - Just slightly. - Yeah. 748 00:40:50,755 --> 00:40:52,755 But you should do it all the same. 749 00:40:54,315 --> 00:40:57,555 You have our permission Nick, if you needed it, that is. 750 00:41:01,076 --> 00:41:03,076 Thank you. 751 00:41:04,316 --> 00:41:05,776 Always can never get used to microphones 752 00:41:05,876 --> 00:41:06,896 being poked everywhere. 753 00:41:06,996 --> 00:41:10,056 (SCOFFS) I'm used to it. Crimewatch. 754 00:41:10,156 --> 00:41:12,496 - Of course. Of course you are. - (MOBILE VIBRATES) 755 00:41:12,596 --> 00:41:14,596 - More used to it than me. - No. 756 00:41:20,717 --> 00:41:21,897 Do you want to share 757 00:41:21,997 --> 00:41:24,117 - the byline with Amelia? - Her source helped confirm it. 758 00:41:25,157 --> 00:41:27,437 Needs something clearer. 759 00:41:28,597 --> 00:41:31,297 - News of the World targeted-- - Illegally targeted. 760 00:41:31,397 --> 00:41:35,177 Good. Illegally targeted the missing schoolgirl Milly Dowler 761 00:41:35,277 --> 00:41:38,457 - and her family in dates... - Yup. 762 00:41:38,557 --> 00:41:41,578 interfering with the police investigation into... 763 00:41:41,678 --> 00:41:45,218 No, interfering with police inquiries 764 00:41:45,318 --> 00:41:49,418 into her disappearance and deleted messages. 765 00:41:49,518 --> 00:41:51,798 Then what the family believed, 766 00:41:53,198 --> 00:41:57,058 she's alive, the lie of that. 767 00:41:57,158 --> 00:41:59,058 Do we have a source and a secondary source? 768 00:41:59,158 --> 00:42:00,298 Yes, we do. 769 00:42:00,398 --> 00:42:04,039 - Have we spoken to Scotland Yard? - Of course. I even asked for a quote. 770 00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:09,239 This is quite something. 771 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:15,459 Channel 4 News can tonight reveal that allegations have been aired 772 00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:17,579 that a Metropolitan Police detective 773 00:42:17,679 --> 00:42:20,860 was put under surveillance by the News of the World journalist 774 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,980 and his personal details were targeted. 775 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,860 The former Crimewatch presenter and Detective Jacqui Haimes 776 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,960 has spoken out for the first time. 777 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,180 So, Jacqui, you were approached by Operation Weeting. 778 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,320 What did they show you? 779 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,820 They showed me various sheets of paper, 780 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:45,661 which I was told came from Glenn Mulcaire's diaries and notes 781 00:42:45,761 --> 00:42:48,941 and sat there and read 782 00:42:49,041 --> 00:42:51,961 the extent to which he had delved into my private life 783 00:42:53,001 --> 00:42:55,621 and it was quite a body blow. 784 00:42:55,721 --> 00:42:58,661 I want to know who instigated the surveillance 785 00:42:58,761 --> 00:43:01,502 and the research that was done on us. 786 00:43:01,602 --> 00:43:04,302 I would like to know how they got and who they got 787 00:43:04,402 --> 00:43:06,922 that personal information from about us. 788 00:43:08,562 --> 00:43:13,022 I would like to know what the purpose of it was from them. 789 00:43:13,122 --> 00:43:16,302 Do you think there was an attempt, here, to interfere 790 00:43:16,402 --> 00:43:19,202 with your ex-husband's criminal investigation, 791 00:43:20,322 --> 00:43:22,643 and if so, what, where's the evidence for that? 792 00:43:24,203 --> 00:43:26,723 It's very difficult when you look at the um, (CLEARS THROAT) 793 00:43:27,723 --> 00:43:31,003 the order in which things happened, the chronology of this, 794 00:43:32,443 --> 00:43:35,783 not to at least want to shine a light on it, and say, you know, 795 00:43:35,883 --> 00:43:39,063 how is it that the day after that appeal went out on Crimewatch, 796 00:43:39,163 --> 00:43:41,103 that this started to happen, 797 00:43:41,203 --> 00:43:43,944 and it's very difficult not to come to that conclusion 798 00:43:44,044 --> 00:43:46,424 that they were in somehow complicit in all this, 799 00:43:46,524 --> 00:43:48,784 or somebody within the organisation was. 800 00:43:48,884 --> 00:43:50,824 Complicit in what, exactly? 801 00:43:50,924 --> 00:43:55,644 In trying to discredit David, or myself. 802 00:44:09,765 --> 00:44:11,765 (BUZZING) 803 00:44:16,005 --> 00:44:20,565 (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) 804 00:45:12,488 --> 00:45:14,488 Of course, they didn't print it. 805 00:45:18,248 --> 00:45:24,349 And so it finally begins. 806 00:45:24,449 --> 00:45:25,589 More revelations-- 807 00:45:25,689 --> 00:45:27,389 The pressure on the News of the World grows with-- 808 00:45:27,489 --> 00:45:30,109 - Another day of dramatic development. - Shocking story. 809 00:45:30,209 --> 00:45:31,269 REPORTER 3: It is alleged 810 00:45:31,369 --> 00:45:33,749 - that Glenn Mulcaire-- - Hacked into the mobile phone 811 00:45:33,849 --> 00:45:35,789 of the murdered schoolgirl Milly Dowler. 812 00:45:35,889 --> 00:45:38,829 Well, this poor girl's dead and they're trying to get stories. 813 00:45:38,929 --> 00:45:41,309 REPORTER 4: There is a new allegation that the tabloid may have hacked 814 00:45:41,409 --> 00:45:44,510 into the phones of the relatives of soldiers killed in Iraq. 815 00:45:44,610 --> 00:45:47,910 If these actions are proved to have been verified, 816 00:45:48,010 --> 00:45:50,510 I'm appalled and find it quite disgusting. 817 00:45:50,610 --> 00:45:52,990 Tonight, Chief Executive Rebekah Brooks says, 818 00:45:53,090 --> 00:45:55,910 we're told, that she's shocked and that she knew nothing about it. 819 00:45:56,010 --> 00:45:58,510 REPORTER 5: Today is the anniversary of 7/7. 820 00:45:58,610 --> 00:46:00,670 REPORTER 6: Relatives of victims of the London bombings 821 00:46:00,770 --> 00:46:03,230 may also have had their phones hacked into. 822 00:46:03,330 --> 00:46:06,151 Somebody was listening to that. It's a violation, isn't it? 823 00:46:06,251 --> 00:46:08,711 An extraordinary moment in British journalism. 824 00:46:08,811 --> 00:46:10,751 REPORTER 7: The News of the World is to close. 825 00:46:10,851 --> 00:46:12,791 REPORTER 8: What happened, happened very, very quickly. 826 00:46:12,891 --> 00:46:14,831 REPORTER 9: It's like a bomb has hit the place. 827 00:46:14,931 --> 00:46:17,111 MAN: Those decent people up there have been thrown out of a job today. 828 00:46:17,211 --> 00:46:19,791 REPORTER 10: The sense that everyone gets is that Rupert Murdoch 829 00:46:19,891 --> 00:46:21,671 is getting rid of the News of the World 830 00:46:21,771 --> 00:46:24,711 in order to protect taking over BSkyB. 831 00:46:24,811 --> 00:46:28,632 I'm interested in those who were responsible being brought to justice. 832 00:46:28,732 --> 00:46:31,752 Scotland Yard confirmed today that it had received documents 833 00:46:31,852 --> 00:46:33,432 suggesting a number of its officers 834 00:46:33,532 --> 00:46:36,792 were given inappropriate payments by News International. 835 00:46:36,892 --> 00:46:40,232 Paying police for information is a criminal offence. 836 00:46:40,332 --> 00:46:42,392 It's corrupt, it's bribery. 837 00:46:42,492 --> 00:46:44,792 REPORTER 11: David Cameron's former head of communications 838 00:46:44,892 --> 00:46:47,513 is arrested over corruption and phone hacking. 839 00:46:47,613 --> 00:46:50,993 The decision to hire him was mine and I take full responsibility. 840 00:46:51,093 --> 00:46:53,233 There's an awful lot I'd like to say, but I can't. 841 00:46:53,333 --> 00:46:55,833 REPORTER 12: The pressure is mounting on Rebekah Brooks. 842 00:46:55,933 --> 00:46:59,913 Both her and James Murdoch should be leaving their desks. 843 00:47:00,013 --> 00:47:01,953 REPORTER 13: The Prime Minister has announced details 844 00:47:02,053 --> 00:47:04,993 of the independent public inquiry led by Lord Justice Leveson. 845 00:47:05,093 --> 00:47:07,634 Who will have the power to summon and question-- 846 00:47:07,734 --> 00:47:11,474 Newspaper proprietors, journalists, police and politicians. 847 00:47:11,574 --> 00:47:13,634 I recognise the vital importance 848 00:47:13,734 --> 00:47:17,114 of reaching a number of conclusions, and I will strive to do so. 849 00:47:17,214 --> 00:47:20,354 Rebekah Brooks, who finally bowed to pressure and resigned. 850 00:47:20,454 --> 00:47:23,554 REPORTER 14: For the past 10 days, she's been at the heart of the storm. 851 00:47:23,654 --> 00:47:25,835 Now she has decided to step away. 852 00:47:25,935 --> 00:47:28,635 REPORTER 15: Assistant Commissioner John Yates has also quit. 853 00:47:28,735 --> 00:47:31,915 It is with great regret that I make this decision. 854 00:47:32,015 --> 00:47:34,315 The mighty Murdoch empire has suffered 855 00:47:34,415 --> 00:47:36,315 its most humiliating blow yet, 856 00:47:36,415 --> 00:47:40,115 as it suddenly dropped its bid to take control of BSkyB. 857 00:47:40,215 --> 00:47:43,235 REPORTER 16: Murdoch has abandoned his bid for BSkyB 858 00:47:43,335 --> 00:47:45,315 But will he face wider consequences 859 00:47:45,415 --> 00:47:47,796 in relation to the phone hacking scandal? 860 00:47:47,896 --> 00:47:50,776 What will come next in this shocking saga? 861 00:47:58,856 --> 00:48:01,296 MAN: And I heard, as it were, the noise of thunder, 862 00:48:03,496 --> 00:48:05,496 one of the four beasts saying, 863 00:48:06,537 --> 00:48:09,037 come and see. 864 00:48:09,137 --> 00:48:12,817 And I saw, and behold, 865 00:48:13,937 --> 00:48:15,937 a white horse. 70421

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