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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:29,404 --> 00:00:30,447 I know when to come in. 2 00:00:31,448 --> 00:00:33,158 I'll count. I'll count. 3 00:00:39,163 --> 00:00:41,082 One, two. 4 00:00:41,874 --> 00:00:44,168 One, two, three, four. 5 00:00:45,002 --> 00:00:49,131 Oooh, love to love you, baby 6 00:00:49,757 --> 00:00:54,136 Oooh, love to love you, baby 7 00:00:54,595 --> 00:00:59,058 Oooh, love to love you, baby 8 00:00:59,933 --> 00:01:04,271 Oooh, love to love you, baby 9 00:01:04,730 --> 00:01:09,151 Oooh, love to love you, baby 10 00:01:24,457 --> 00:01:28,920 Oooh, love to love you, baby 11 00:01:29,629 --> 00:01:34,258 Oooh, love to love you, baby 12 00:01:34,759 --> 00:01:39,013 Oooh, love to love you, baby 13 00:01:39,347 --> 00:01:41,515 Do it to me again and again 14 00:01:41,766 --> 00:01:43,684 You put me in such an awful spin 15 00:01:43,767 --> 00:01:45,936 In a spin in 16 00:01:46,020 --> 00:01:50,274 Oooh, love to love you, baby 17 00:01:50,899 --> 00:01:55,070 Oooh, love to love you, baby 18 00:01:55,279 --> 00:02:00,075 Oooh, love to love you, baby 19 00:02:36,026 --> 00:02:42,616 It's so good... 20 00:02:47,287 --> 00:02:51,041 Ooh, heaven knows 21 00:02:51,124 --> 00:02:56,588 Heaven knows... 22 00:03:01,259 --> 00:03:04,887 Ooh, I feel love 23 00:03:04,971 --> 00:03:11,435 I feel love... 24 00:03:14,271 --> 00:03:21,195 I feel love 25 00:03:21,487 --> 00:03:24,073 I feel love 26 00:03:26,784 --> 00:03:28,160 I have a secret life. 27 00:03:30,829 --> 00:03:33,290 You're looking at me, but what you see is not what I am. 28 00:03:37,836 --> 00:03:39,963 How many roles do I play in my own life? 29 00:03:44,134 --> 00:03:45,176 Who is she? 30 00:04:01,817 --> 00:04:03,903 When I 31 00:04:07,072 --> 00:04:14,496 Believe in miracles that happen 32 00:04:14,663 --> 00:04:15,706 You wanna sing now? 33 00:04:16,832 --> 00:04:17,874 You want me to do the camera? 34 00:04:18,584 --> 00:04:20,419 - Yup. - Okay, you sing. 35 00:04:28,301 --> 00:04:29,344 Is this Brooklyn? 36 00:04:29,886 --> 00:04:30,929 Yes. 37 00:04:31,012 --> 00:04:32,597 Oh, Brooklyn. 38 00:04:33,139 --> 00:04:34,182 How you doing today? 39 00:04:34,265 --> 00:04:35,683 Hey, Auntie Mary. 40 00:04:36,267 --> 00:04:40,229 I'm calling because I may need some help. 41 00:04:40,938 --> 00:04:43,274 I'm trying to figure out 42 00:04:43,524 --> 00:04:47,945 the many pieces of who Mom really was. 43 00:04:52,199 --> 00:04:53,534 You know, she... 44 00:04:53,951 --> 00:04:55,244 was complicated 45 00:04:55,828 --> 00:04:59,832 and struggled with her fame 46 00:04:59,915 --> 00:05:02,042 her... her image. 47 00:05:02,751 --> 00:05:03,919 And even love. 48 00:05:35,950 --> 00:05:37,827 - What do you see? - People. 49 00:05:38,077 --> 00:05:40,121 - Yeah. - Hi, people. 50 00:05:41,997 --> 00:05:43,541 Boo boo, how you doing? 51 00:05:43,958 --> 00:05:45,000 Fine 52 00:05:45,376 --> 00:05:46,418 - Is it working? - Yeah. 53 00:05:49,755 --> 00:05:50,923 Mom, may I see, too? 54 00:05:51,715 --> 00:05:53,091 Not right now. Go out and play. 55 00:05:53,175 --> 00:05:54,509 - Dance. I gotta get you. - What's your name? 56 00:05:55,093 --> 00:05:56,136 Brooklyn. 57 00:05:56,553 --> 00:05:57,596 I'm four. 58 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,515 - What's your name? - Amanda. 59 00:06:00,724 --> 00:06:02,058 - How old are you? - Two. 60 00:06:02,851 --> 00:06:03,893 - And a half. - When's your birthday? 61 00:06:04,644 --> 00:06:05,687 Five. 62 00:06:06,980 --> 00:06:08,982 - And what's your name? - Mimi. 63 00:06:09,065 --> 00:06:10,608 Move your arms, Mimi, as much as you can. 64 00:06:11,526 --> 00:06:13,444 - I can't see. - Well, squinch. 65 00:06:15,571 --> 00:06:16,614 Come on. 66 00:06:16,698 --> 00:06:17,907 Growing up, I was in the studio 67 00:06:17,990 --> 00:06:19,200 with Mom all night long. 68 00:06:19,283 --> 00:06:20,910 We'd go to sleep on the couch 69 00:06:20,993 --> 00:06:22,370 in the engineering room. 70 00:06:22,954 --> 00:06:25,164 It was sort of a rollercoaster ride for everyone. 71 00:06:26,082 --> 00:06:28,918 She was really famous, and everyone wanted her. 72 00:06:30,544 --> 00:06:33,255 There was this element of her always having to be public. 73 00:06:34,381 --> 00:06:37,134 But Mommy was a very private person in a lot of ways. 74 00:06:38,802 --> 00:06:39,845 With Mom 75 00:06:39,928 --> 00:06:41,305 a lot of her life revolved 76 00:06:41,388 --> 00:06:43,265 around privacy and secrecy. 77 00:06:45,392 --> 00:06:47,185 We were never allowed in her room. 78 00:06:47,269 --> 00:06:48,687 The door was always locked. 79 00:06:49,479 --> 00:06:52,274 We would find out things by reading newspaper articles 80 00:06:52,357 --> 00:06:54,609 they had clipped out and hidden in places. 81 00:06:55,318 --> 00:06:58,029 I actually remember the first time that we heard Love to Love You. 82 00:06:58,863 --> 00:07:00,114 Didn't even know it existed. 83 00:07:00,198 --> 00:07:01,407 Brooklyn came in the room and was like 84 00:07:01,491 --> 00:07:03,242 "Have I got a song for you to hear!" 85 00:07:16,630 --> 00:07:18,090 When I wrote Love to Love You Baby 86 00:07:18,174 --> 00:07:20,384 I did not write it to be a song. 87 00:07:20,968 --> 00:07:24,388 I wrote it as a concept for someone else to write a lyric to. 88 00:07:25,097 --> 00:07:29,977 Oh, love to love you baby 89 00:07:30,102 --> 00:07:32,854 I just made up a voice and kinda tried to create a vibe. 90 00:07:34,022 --> 00:07:36,233 Amanda, remember when we were like 91 00:07:36,691 --> 00:07:38,193 "Who is this woman?" 92 00:07:39,486 --> 00:07:42,197 I mean, I don't think she had any idea 93 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,576 that this vibe was gonna completely change her life. 94 00:07:54,292 --> 00:07:57,211 Love to Love You Baby was becoming, like, this world symbol 95 00:07:57,295 --> 00:07:59,380 of freedom, of liberation. 96 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,299 Things would begin to happen. 97 00:08:02,508 --> 00:08:04,510 People would begin to, you know, like, rip their clothes off 98 00:08:04,593 --> 00:08:05,636 and throw them on the stage 99 00:08:05,719 --> 00:08:07,721 and bras, underwear. 100 00:08:08,806 --> 00:08:10,808 They didn't know it was gonna be, like, that racy. 101 00:08:11,683 --> 00:08:14,019 The audience would get completely uncontrollable. 102 00:08:14,436 --> 00:08:17,814 And it... was kinda terrifying. 103 00:08:18,607 --> 00:08:20,692 It wasn't me, and it was something I was playing. 104 00:08:21,026 --> 00:08:22,069 It was a role. 105 00:08:23,236 --> 00:08:26,865 Everyone that knew me would call me up and say 106 00:08:26,948 --> 00:08:28,283 "That... that's not you, is it?" 107 00:08:28,366 --> 00:08:30,076 Then I would say, "Yeah, that's me." 108 00:08:30,243 --> 00:08:31,995 And they would just say, "Nah, come on." 109 00:08:34,038 --> 00:08:35,540 What's hot right now? Disco? 110 00:08:36,165 --> 00:08:37,625 Disco is a phenomenon. 111 00:08:38,251 --> 00:08:39,585 It's... it's the hottest thing 112 00:08:39,669 --> 00:08:41,170 that has hit the music business. 113 00:08:41,254 --> 00:08:43,047 I mean, millions and millions 114 00:08:43,131 --> 00:08:44,257 of records are selling 115 00:08:44,340 --> 00:08:45,424 and Donna is the biggest. 116 00:08:45,508 --> 00:08:47,259 Was it tough to get her that first hit 117 00:08:47,468 --> 00:08:49,804 or did... or did one thing happen 118 00:08:50,137 --> 00:08:53,224 that you... that you knew that put her over the top? 119 00:08:53,432 --> 00:08:54,934 - Give me an example. - Okay, Donna... 120 00:08:55,017 --> 00:08:56,644 Donna was a star in Europe. 121 00:08:56,727 --> 00:08:59,104 She was not doing disco-oriented records. 122 00:09:00,189 --> 00:09:01,732 She had a... an idea 123 00:09:01,815 --> 00:09:03,358 and she recorded Love to Love You Baby 124 00:09:03,442 --> 00:09:06,737 which was a three-minute- and-20-second record. 125 00:09:07,362 --> 00:09:09,656 They brought it to me after it had failed in Europe 126 00:09:10,157 --> 00:09:12,033 and I listened to it and I loved it. 127 00:09:12,284 --> 00:09:13,326 And I put it out here 128 00:09:13,702 --> 00:09:14,744 and nothing happened. 129 00:09:15,203 --> 00:09:16,413 About a month later 130 00:09:16,496 --> 00:09:18,581 I was playing it at a party I had at my house 131 00:09:18,790 --> 00:09:20,291 and someone said 132 00:09:20,375 --> 00:09:21,668 "Play that again." 133 00:09:22,001 --> 00:09:23,169 I put it back on 134 00:09:23,378 --> 00:09:25,838 and the record finished 135 00:09:25,922 --> 00:09:27,298 and someone said, "Play that again." 136 00:09:27,632 --> 00:09:29,509 I said, "The record's too short. 137 00:09:30,218 --> 00:09:31,844 They keep asking for more." 138 00:09:32,011 --> 00:09:33,512 So I went upstairs, and I called Germany 139 00:09:33,596 --> 00:09:35,097 where the record was produced, and I said 140 00:09:35,348 --> 00:09:36,682 "Give me a 20-minute version." 141 00:09:36,891 --> 00:09:39,727 What we did is we came up with a... a promotional idea. 142 00:09:39,810 --> 00:09:44,481 If we can get some radio stations to play just at midnight 143 00:09:45,190 --> 00:09:47,818 and say, "Tune in for 20 minutes of love." 144 00:09:52,447 --> 00:09:55,492 I was at the house listening to it 145 00:09:55,575 --> 00:09:57,035 and realized, "Wait a minute. 146 00:09:57,119 --> 00:09:58,161 That's... that's Donna. 147 00:09:58,495 --> 00:09:59,538 That's my sister. 148 00:09:59,913 --> 00:10:02,666 She said she was gonna be famous 149 00:10:02,749 --> 00:10:04,000 and she did it. 150 00:10:04,084 --> 00:10:05,752 She's on the radio." 151 00:10:08,838 --> 00:10:10,590 Unknown singer Donna Summer 152 00:10:10,673 --> 00:10:13,259 recorded a song I Love To Love You Baby. 153 00:10:13,343 --> 00:10:15,553 It started a new phase in the recording industry 154 00:10:15,678 --> 00:10:16,888 Sex Rock. 155 00:10:18,264 --> 00:10:19,307 I actually believe that 156 00:10:19,390 --> 00:10:21,517 it was pretty much the gay community 157 00:10:21,601 --> 00:10:22,768 that broke that record. 158 00:10:27,231 --> 00:10:28,858 I heard it the first time 159 00:10:29,233 --> 00:10:31,402 while I was listening to underground radio. 160 00:10:31,777 --> 00:10:33,529 Like a college station that played stuff 161 00:10:33,612 --> 00:10:35,322 that you could not play in the daytime. 162 00:10:35,948 --> 00:10:38,408 I don't know. It was probably about twelve-thirty, one o'clock. 163 00:10:38,659 --> 00:10:40,160 And I hear this song come on. 164 00:10:40,786 --> 00:10:44,498 A controversial record has been making radio executives nervous 165 00:10:44,581 --> 00:10:45,624 all over the world. 166 00:10:45,874 --> 00:10:48,627 It was banned recently by the BBC in England 167 00:10:48,710 --> 00:10:52,088 and in spite of that, it's sold over 1 million albums. 168 00:10:53,381 --> 00:10:54,883 Oh, my god, this is... 169 00:10:55,091 --> 00:10:56,718 I'm listening to Love to Love You 170 00:10:56,801 --> 00:10:58,469 and I'm like, and it's going on 171 00:10:58,553 --> 00:11:00,722 and on... 172 00:11:00,805 --> 00:11:02,473 And I'm like, "Oh, my god. 173 00:11:02,974 --> 00:11:04,642 I think this is the record that she said 174 00:11:04,725 --> 00:11:06,144 that wasn't gonna sound like her." 175 00:11:06,310 --> 00:11:07,353 And Grandma said 176 00:11:07,770 --> 00:11:09,855 "I'm never gonna be able to go to church again." 177 00:11:10,523 --> 00:11:12,108 {\an5}She knew that I was gonna be 178 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:13,818 {\an5}shocked, okay? 179 00:11:14,151 --> 00:11:15,402 {\an5}And to say the least 180 00:11:15,528 --> 00:11:16,570 {\an5}I was shocked 181 00:11:16,737 --> 00:11:17,821 because in my heart 182 00:11:17,905 --> 00:11:20,074 I always wanted her to be a gospel singer. 183 00:11:20,407 --> 00:11:21,658 {\an5}When Donna sang in church 184 00:11:22,201 --> 00:11:23,327 {\an5}it would give you a vibrating 185 00:11:23,410 --> 00:11:24,578 {\an5}feeling that you know, you... 186 00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:25,996 they give you something that... 187 00:11:27,414 --> 00:11:30,792 well, that, to me, no other singer that I heard in the church, gave me. 188 00:11:34,296 --> 00:11:35,714 It started really with my dad. 189 00:11:35,881 --> 00:11:38,174 He used to get me and... and make me come to the living room 190 00:11:38,258 --> 00:11:39,843 and he says, "Listen. Listen to this record 191 00:11:39,926 --> 00:11:41,219 and sing just like this record." 192 00:11:46,808 --> 00:11:49,477 Elijah Rock shout, shout 193 00:11:49,936 --> 00:11:52,688 Elijah Rock coming up Lord 194 00:11:52,980 --> 00:11:55,525 Elijah Rock shout, shout 195 00:11:55,608 --> 00:11:58,361 Elijah Rock coming up Lord 196 00:11:58,611 --> 00:12:01,489 I listened to Mahalia Jackson and... and said 197 00:12:01,572 --> 00:12:04,074 "You know, she... somehow, she has what I want." 198 00:12:04,575 --> 00:12:06,535 I would just listen and listen for hours. 199 00:12:07,620 --> 00:12:09,455 Elijah 200 00:12:10,497 --> 00:12:15,460 Elijah 201 00:12:15,544 --> 00:12:17,838 Our favorite way to spend our time was putting on shows 202 00:12:17,921 --> 00:12:19,297 on the front porch or the back stoop. 203 00:12:19,381 --> 00:12:20,966 And when the neighbors would hear you singing 204 00:12:21,049 --> 00:12:22,300 they would stop on their way home. 205 00:12:22,384 --> 00:12:23,426 Hallelujah! 206 00:12:23,510 --> 00:12:25,887 Elijah Rock, shout... 207 00:12:26,388 --> 00:12:28,640 Elijah Rock coming up, Lord! 208 00:12:28,932 --> 00:12:31,434 Boston in the 1950s 209 00:12:32,310 --> 00:12:35,188 was not a friendly city to people of color. 210 00:12:37,231 --> 00:12:38,274 We were black. 211 00:12:38,483 --> 00:12:39,817 Anything could happen to you. 212 00:12:41,235 --> 00:12:43,196 Kids from the other part of the project 213 00:12:43,279 --> 00:12:45,239 the white part, as we used to call it 214 00:12:45,698 --> 00:12:47,074 would beat on us and tell us 215 00:12:47,158 --> 00:12:48,993 we were not welcome in their area. 216 00:12:50,244 --> 00:12:51,287 One day 217 00:12:51,412 --> 00:12:55,666 one of the kids chased us back to our part of the projects 218 00:12:55,749 --> 00:12:58,419 and there was a wire strung from one fence to another. 219 00:12:59,002 --> 00:13:01,004 I saw it. I went under it 220 00:13:01,088 --> 00:13:02,172 and I turned and looked 221 00:13:02,256 --> 00:13:04,341 and Donna had hit it with her chin. 222 00:13:04,925 --> 00:13:06,343 She had that little clip on her chin 223 00:13:06,426 --> 00:13:07,469 and it never went away. 224 00:13:08,303 --> 00:13:09,513 Tell everybody 225 00:13:09,930 --> 00:13:11,765 He's been a rock and a shelter for me 226 00:13:11,848 --> 00:13:13,475 I felt like I was barred for life 227 00:13:13,558 --> 00:13:15,060 and there was never gonna be a way 228 00:13:15,435 --> 00:13:17,270 that I would ever be attractive. 229 00:13:18,605 --> 00:13:21,232 Feeling ugly, feeling inadequate. 230 00:13:21,691 --> 00:13:24,235 - I was scarred. - Elijah Rock 231 00:13:24,527 --> 00:13:28,573 I'm coming up 232 00:13:28,906 --> 00:13:30,783 Elijah... 233 00:13:30,867 --> 00:13:32,118 When I was about eight years old 234 00:13:32,201 --> 00:13:34,203 one of the ladies in my church got sick 235 00:13:34,412 --> 00:13:35,746 and she was supposed to sing. 236 00:13:35,996 --> 00:13:37,665 The minister came to me 237 00:13:37,748 --> 00:13:39,416 and he said, "Can you sing today?" 238 00:13:39,875 --> 00:13:42,336 I was petrified. I mean, petrified. 239 00:13:42,586 --> 00:13:46,006 But I got up anyway, and I stood up to sing. 240 00:13:46,090 --> 00:13:48,717 And all of a sudden, this voice came out that I didn't know. 241 00:13:49,051 --> 00:13:50,093 It just came outta me. 242 00:13:50,344 --> 00:13:52,346 And everyone in my family will remember this 243 00:13:52,429 --> 00:13:54,056 because they all were... everybody was in tears. 244 00:13:54,306 --> 00:13:56,183 I was in tears, and my family was in tears. 245 00:13:56,266 --> 00:13:58,101 Everyone in the whole church was in tears. 246 00:13:58,810 --> 00:14:01,354 And it was a... a striking feeling of "God, I'm blessed. 247 00:14:01,438 --> 00:14:03,648 I know I'm gonna be famous," and... 248 00:14:19,038 --> 00:14:21,958 Once upon a time, once upon a time 249 00:14:25,544 --> 00:14:28,714 Once upon a time, once upon a time 250 00:14:29,173 --> 00:14:30,215 Auntie Mary 251 00:14:30,549 --> 00:14:32,676 Mom was a dreamer. 252 00:14:33,844 --> 00:14:36,138 You know, she could shapeshift 253 00:14:36,889 --> 00:14:38,515 in and out of characters. 254 00:14:39,308 --> 00:14:42,102 How did this show up in her performances? 255 00:14:43,311 --> 00:14:45,939 Donna's shows were theatrical. 256 00:14:46,940 --> 00:14:48,525 There was always a story. 257 00:14:48,650 --> 00:14:49,776 There was a heroine. 258 00:14:50,068 --> 00:14:51,111 There was a problem. 259 00:14:51,653 --> 00:14:53,196 And in the end, she overcame. 260 00:14:54,197 --> 00:14:55,657 She thought in theater. 261 00:14:58,910 --> 00:15:00,828 Once upon a time... 262 00:15:02,580 --> 00:15:05,166 in the land of Never Never... 263 00:15:09,795 --> 00:15:13,382 there lived a little girl 264 00:15:15,134 --> 00:15:16,385 who believes 265 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,722 that all things were possible. 266 00:15:20,305 --> 00:15:23,058 I know a lot of people won't think that she was a forerunner 267 00:15:23,267 --> 00:15:24,643 but she really was. 268 00:15:25,310 --> 00:15:27,980 She was thinking about things outside of the box 269 00:15:28,063 --> 00:15:29,439 - that they wanted to keep her in. - Do you want me in here? 270 00:15:30,023 --> 00:15:31,650 - She wasn't having it. - Somebody, please let me out! 271 00:15:31,733 --> 00:15:34,486 - I'll keep running - By her stepping out in those areas 272 00:15:34,569 --> 00:15:37,656 it did allow other people of color 273 00:15:37,739 --> 00:15:40,158 to step out of the box that they had her in. 274 00:15:40,700 --> 00:15:41,743 Hey, you better get me out. 275 00:15:42,076 --> 00:15:44,913 I can't breathe. I need help. 276 00:15:46,331 --> 00:15:48,416 It seems like the whole world's closing in on me 277 00:15:48,499 --> 00:15:51,127 Please, somebody help 278 00:16:00,803 --> 00:16:02,346 I thought that, you know, if you really were a star 279 00:16:02,429 --> 00:16:03,848 you had to be on The Johnny Carson Show 280 00:16:03,931 --> 00:16:06,016 so that was... it was always my biggest dream. 281 00:16:06,100 --> 00:16:07,267 I said, "I know I'm a star 282 00:16:07,685 --> 00:16:09,228 when I've done The Johnny Carson Show." 283 00:16:09,478 --> 00:16:11,355 What do you see down the road? Picture yourself that maybe... 284 00:16:11,438 --> 00:16:13,398 maybe you'd have... would have successful recordings now? 285 00:16:13,482 --> 00:16:14,942 - You like to... - Developing. 286 00:16:15,025 --> 00:16:18,111 You know, I'm... I'm studying to become a director myself 287 00:16:18,862 --> 00:16:21,281 so I have my own little video studio set up at home. 288 00:16:21,490 --> 00:16:22,908 Yeah, that's super. Somebody told me you had made... 289 00:16:22,991 --> 00:16:24,326 - Any actors out there? - Yeah. 290 00:16:26,286 --> 00:16:28,121 No, you know what he's like. You're not interviewing. 291 00:16:28,204 --> 00:16:29,247 - You're the husband. - All right, Mary 292 00:16:29,330 --> 00:16:30,373 well, push over, just a hair. 293 00:16:30,540 --> 00:16:31,583 When you're on the road for 294 00:16:31,666 --> 00:16:32,709 a long time or you might have 295 00:16:32,792 --> 00:16:34,877 a day off between another show 296 00:16:35,044 --> 00:16:36,212 and you're stuck in a hotel 297 00:16:36,295 --> 00:16:37,547 in Podunk, Iowa 298 00:16:37,714 --> 00:16:39,382 you find things to do. 299 00:16:39,715 --> 00:16:41,509 And God help us. 300 00:16:42,093 --> 00:16:45,179 Donna bought herself a camera 301 00:16:46,138 --> 00:16:47,181 a movie camera. 302 00:16:49,308 --> 00:16:51,769 And she was expecting us to make movies. 303 00:16:56,607 --> 00:16:57,649 No, you didn't. 304 00:16:57,733 --> 00:16:59,651 Now, you know what we go through every single night. 305 00:17:01,278 --> 00:17:04,072 She would direct us and, "Do this and do that." 306 00:17:05,032 --> 00:17:06,783 And we all played the game. 307 00:17:07,367 --> 00:17:08,493 Some of it was funny 308 00:17:08,577 --> 00:17:10,579 and some of it, it got us in trouble. 309 00:17:11,162 --> 00:17:12,539 You better get away from my camera. 310 00:17:12,956 --> 00:17:14,874 You wanna leave for California tomorrow, don't you? 311 00:17:21,381 --> 00:17:22,632 And so it was like 312 00:17:23,257 --> 00:17:24,676 "I'm never doing that again. 313 00:17:24,759 --> 00:17:25,802 I'm not doing it." 314 00:17:27,386 --> 00:17:29,722 She's like, "Come on. Come on, Mary. Come on." 315 00:17:31,349 --> 00:17:33,434 And she was fun, and... 316 00:17:33,517 --> 00:17:34,560 and she was funny. 317 00:17:41,442 --> 00:17:42,943 Well, I get vibration. 318 00:17:43,152 --> 00:17:45,154 You're going to go far away one day. 319 00:17:45,237 --> 00:17:46,280 You watch. You see. 320 00:17:46,363 --> 00:17:49,449 You're going to be very, very famous. I'm telling you. 321 00:17:49,533 --> 00:17:51,952 But could you just tell me about what's gonna happen next week? 322 00:17:52,619 --> 00:17:54,955 Next week, you're gonna have to finish up something 323 00:17:55,038 --> 00:17:56,081 you started this week. 324 00:17:56,456 --> 00:17:58,166 But that's... but that's so general. 325 00:17:58,333 --> 00:17:59,793 That's $2. 326 00:18:00,085 --> 00:18:01,127 Like... 327 00:18:01,503 --> 00:18:02,921 - Are you married? - No. 328 00:18:03,755 --> 00:18:04,798 You will be married. 329 00:18:06,382 --> 00:18:08,051 You're going to take a journey. 330 00:18:09,469 --> 00:18:10,762 You wanna know where you gonna go? 331 00:18:10,845 --> 00:18:14,015 No, I wanna know what school I'm gonna get in before this. 332 00:18:15,057 --> 00:18:16,100 What the fuck? You gotta be... 333 00:18:16,184 --> 00:18:19,937 You're gonna go far away, across the sea, in the air. 334 00:18:27,861 --> 00:18:29,238 When she was in high school 335 00:18:29,488 --> 00:18:31,031 she started working with a band 336 00:18:31,115 --> 00:18:32,157 called The Crow. 337 00:18:32,783 --> 00:18:34,576 She would sneak out a lot at night 338 00:18:34,785 --> 00:18:36,203 and go sing in clubs. 339 00:18:37,788 --> 00:18:40,707 Oh, you made me feel so bad 340 00:18:40,791 --> 00:18:41,833 All the band was white. 341 00:18:42,542 --> 00:18:44,503 I was "the crow." 342 00:18:45,587 --> 00:18:48,798 And they really wanted her to be like the black Janis Joplin. 343 00:18:48,965 --> 00:18:50,008 You know what I mean? 344 00:18:50,091 --> 00:18:52,969 So after, I think she heard the way Janis Joplin sang 345 00:18:53,595 --> 00:18:55,430 she felt like, "I can do this." 346 00:18:55,930 --> 00:18:59,517 Come on... 347 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,561 Come on, and take it 348 00:19:01,853 --> 00:19:04,647 Take another little piece Of my heart now, baby 349 00:19:04,730 --> 00:19:06,023 You know, coming out of church 350 00:19:06,107 --> 00:19:08,067 and... and seeing Janis Joplin 351 00:19:08,276 --> 00:19:10,486 this wild-haired woman with no bra on 352 00:19:10,569 --> 00:19:13,280 and... and literally a jug of whiskey in her hand. 353 00:19:14,657 --> 00:19:16,784 I hadn't ever been exposed to something like that. 354 00:19:16,867 --> 00:19:18,243 I mean, that just was not proper. 355 00:19:19,203 --> 00:19:21,747 I remember getting a spanking for wearing red fingernail polish 356 00:19:21,997 --> 00:19:24,708 because to my father, red fingernail polish meant... 357 00:19:25,083 --> 00:19:27,127 That was what whores wore, in his mind. 358 00:19:27,919 --> 00:19:30,756 We wore slips, and more slips, and girdles 359 00:19:30,839 --> 00:19:32,174 and it just don't jiggle. 360 00:19:34,217 --> 00:19:36,928 Can't understand 361 00:19:37,262 --> 00:19:40,432 Why this whole world 362 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,935 Keeps pulling me down 363 00:19:44,269 --> 00:19:45,311 To the ground 364 00:19:45,395 --> 00:19:47,563 There was a lot of pressure in being a black woman. 365 00:19:47,647 --> 00:19:48,856 A lot of pressure. 366 00:19:49,190 --> 00:19:51,943 Being a woman is bad enough. 367 00:19:52,026 --> 00:19:54,654 And being a black woman was like a double whammy. 368 00:20:01,327 --> 00:20:03,537 Summer of '68, I was 19 years old 369 00:20:05,914 --> 00:20:07,458 I was in sort of a limbo state. 370 00:20:13,297 --> 00:20:15,590 I originally went outta Boston to... 371 00:20:16,049 --> 00:20:18,635 to pursue a singing career in New York with my band. 372 00:20:21,513 --> 00:20:23,556 So here I am. I'm in New York, and, you know 373 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,350 I feel a little bit freer than I feel in Boston. 374 00:20:25,433 --> 00:20:26,768 I don't have anybody looking over my shoulder. 375 00:20:29,437 --> 00:20:32,482 Feeling like, you know, there was a future waiting for me somewhere 376 00:20:32,565 --> 00:20:33,691 and I just needed to discover 377 00:20:33,775 --> 00:20:36,652 what key it was that was gonna turn the lock 378 00:20:36,736 --> 00:20:38,738 that was gonna open the door to that future. 379 00:20:43,326 --> 00:20:46,579 There was just music pouring out of every doorway 380 00:20:47,329 --> 00:20:51,125 and you became part of this whole tapestry of movement 381 00:20:51,208 --> 00:20:52,876 that was happening in the country 382 00:20:53,502 --> 00:20:55,546 you know, enjoying the whole environment 383 00:20:55,629 --> 00:20:57,005 of just being kind of a hippie. 384 00:21:00,467 --> 00:21:02,636 I'm trying to figure out what's going on in my life. 385 00:21:03,595 --> 00:21:06,306 I lived above the Cafe Wha? on the top floor 386 00:21:06,556 --> 00:21:07,724 with a couple of people. 387 00:21:11,811 --> 00:21:13,480 The director of Hair came to the house 388 00:21:13,563 --> 00:21:14,689 with the girl that I live with. 389 00:21:15,148 --> 00:21:17,400 I happened to be singing around the house at the time 390 00:21:18,026 --> 00:21:19,194 and he heard me and he said 391 00:21:19,277 --> 00:21:20,612 "Well, I'm having an audition on Thursday 392 00:21:20,695 --> 00:21:21,738 would you come down?" 393 00:21:21,946 --> 00:21:23,406 And that was the turning point. 394 00:21:24,532 --> 00:21:25,783 Within two weeks, I was out of it. 395 00:21:26,742 --> 00:21:27,785 I went to Germany. 396 00:21:32,289 --> 00:21:34,959 Wenn der Mond 397 00:21:35,042 --> 00:21:38,462 Im siebten Hause steht 398 00:21:38,671 --> 00:21:42,966 Und Jupiter auf Mars zugeht 399 00:21:43,050 --> 00:21:46,970 Being 19 years old in Germany and coming of age 400 00:21:47,346 --> 00:21:50,474 having the hippie revolution kind of on my heels 401 00:21:51,892 --> 00:21:54,686 and being a person who is craving change 402 00:21:55,729 --> 00:21:57,814 was a door to an entire reality. 403 00:22:00,025 --> 00:22:01,609 There were really kinda no limits. 404 00:22:03,528 --> 00:22:05,488 Sort of newfound freedom. 405 00:22:15,915 --> 00:22:20,294 Being in Germany gave me license to be myself 406 00:22:21,462 --> 00:22:23,589 and I hadn't had that license before. 407 00:22:30,262 --> 00:22:31,305 For the first time 408 00:22:31,388 --> 00:22:33,015 she was accepted in a way 409 00:22:33,098 --> 00:22:34,850 that we were never accepted 410 00:22:34,933 --> 00:22:35,976 in America. 411 00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:37,769 Blacks were at a premium. 412 00:22:38,103 --> 00:22:40,147 They saw you walking down the street and said 413 00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:41,523 "Oh, we've gotta have that." 414 00:22:47,654 --> 00:22:49,656 I got a lot of press because at that time 415 00:22:49,739 --> 00:22:52,200 there were very few black women in Germany. 416 00:22:56,955 --> 00:22:58,498 You were just constantly on display 417 00:22:58,581 --> 00:23:00,291 no matter where you went, no matter what you did. 418 00:23:00,833 --> 00:23:02,210 It was just an open door. 419 00:23:03,085 --> 00:23:05,046 I was tall and very thin at the time 420 00:23:05,421 --> 00:23:07,381 and there were a lot of photographers there 421 00:23:07,465 --> 00:23:08,924 and I just got a lot of work. 422 00:23:11,427 --> 00:23:12,678 - Helmuth. - Yeah. 423 00:23:12,761 --> 00:23:16,140 I wanna know how you actually got together. 424 00:23:16,473 --> 00:23:19,810 I met Donna during the musical, Hair. 425 00:23:20,686 --> 00:23:22,729 Of course I was attracted. 426 00:23:23,605 --> 00:23:24,982 Donna had the best voice 427 00:23:25,065 --> 00:23:29,152 so everybody was admiring this gift that she had. 428 00:23:31,071 --> 00:23:34,115 We were just in kind of a love for each other. 429 00:23:34,449 --> 00:23:37,202 This is the feeling that I remember a lot. 430 00:23:37,494 --> 00:23:41,456 She was really a funny girl when she was in a good mood. 431 00:23:44,959 --> 00:23:47,170 When Mimi was born 432 00:23:48,087 --> 00:23:52,049 Donna's reaction was a little bit kind of distanced. 433 00:23:53,926 --> 00:23:55,303 I was never that maternal. 434 00:23:55,469 --> 00:23:58,264 I never actually thought I would ever have kids until I had one. 435 00:23:59,682 --> 00:24:02,476 I just... It just was... It was... 436 00:24:02,893 --> 00:24:05,229 There was... there was too much fire in me. 437 00:24:09,900 --> 00:24:11,151 When I was born 438 00:24:11,235 --> 00:24:12,486 Mommy was ready to break out. 439 00:24:14,738 --> 00:24:17,616 Her dream was just bigger. 440 00:24:20,619 --> 00:24:22,537 She knew more was on the horizon 441 00:24:23,246 --> 00:24:25,248 and you could not contain her. 442 00:24:25,582 --> 00:24:28,168 So they separated when I was two. 443 00:24:29,794 --> 00:24:32,171 I pretty much stayed with my grandparents after that. 444 00:24:36,175 --> 00:24:39,220 I went through a manner of manic depression 445 00:24:39,428 --> 00:24:41,264 to be the one to have to say, "I'm leaving." 446 00:24:42,598 --> 00:24:44,600 The guilt of that was so strong. 447 00:24:45,351 --> 00:24:47,895 I'm taking my daughter's father away. 448 00:24:57,654 --> 00:24:59,573 Donna Summer! 449 00:25:07,706 --> 00:25:11,293 They call her 450 00:25:12,168 --> 00:25:18,758 The lady of the night 451 00:25:19,926 --> 00:25:23,930 She's a woman of the world 452 00:25:24,055 --> 00:25:25,765 I had started to record some... 453 00:25:26,474 --> 00:25:28,392 what the Germans call Schlager songs 454 00:25:28,935 --> 00:25:32,521 kind of corny, bubblegummy for the European market. 455 00:25:34,398 --> 00:25:37,151 So I had kind of developed a little bit of a career. 456 00:25:42,031 --> 00:25:44,658 Oooh, something coming over me... 457 00:25:44,741 --> 00:25:46,034 I remember calling her 458 00:25:46,243 --> 00:25:47,786 and... and she was in Munich 459 00:25:48,287 --> 00:25:49,871 and saying, "Are you sexy?" 460 00:25:50,497 --> 00:25:52,707 And she went, "I don't know." 461 00:25:52,916 --> 00:25:55,085 "Could we spotlight you in Playboy?" 462 00:25:55,168 --> 00:25:57,212 And she went, "Oh, absolutely not." 463 00:25:59,130 --> 00:26:02,634 You know, she was living a very kinda quiet life 464 00:26:02,717 --> 00:26:04,052 in... in Munich. 465 00:26:04,928 --> 00:26:08,056 And when we brought her over to New York 466 00:26:08,264 --> 00:26:10,391 we brought her over as a major star. 467 00:26:11,559 --> 00:26:14,061 I came up with "The First Lady of Love" for Donna. 468 00:26:14,437 --> 00:26:15,813 That's what Neil was selling. 469 00:26:16,147 --> 00:26:18,691 You're gonna make love to this wonderful record 470 00:26:19,233 --> 00:26:20,276 Love to Love You Baby. 471 00:26:31,036 --> 00:26:32,204 Neil looked out for every 472 00:26:32,287 --> 00:26:33,997 aspect of my career 473 00:26:34,540 --> 00:26:36,291 that every hair is in place 474 00:26:36,375 --> 00:26:37,834 every smile is right. 475 00:26:38,293 --> 00:26:40,420 "We're gonna give you the best of everything. 476 00:26:40,629 --> 00:26:42,547 You're gonna look like you're already rich." 477 00:26:46,968 --> 00:26:48,511 I mean, if I was getting ready to go on stage 478 00:26:48,595 --> 00:26:50,889 and my nail polish wasn't on my feet, and somebody was late 479 00:26:51,222 --> 00:26:52,265 he was on his knees. 480 00:26:52,557 --> 00:26:53,600 I kid you not. 481 00:26:55,184 --> 00:26:57,562 He taught me how to dream on a whole other level. 482 00:27:03,234 --> 00:27:04,860 I didn't have very many friends. 483 00:27:05,444 --> 00:27:07,822 Most of the people that I was friends with at the time 484 00:27:08,239 --> 00:27:10,491 were in some way involved in the record business. 485 00:27:10,741 --> 00:27:12,826 So Casablanca because that was my whole world. 486 00:27:15,371 --> 00:27:18,123 Neil wanted to make it really special for Donna 487 00:27:18,207 --> 00:27:19,374 so he brought her mom and dad 488 00:27:19,458 --> 00:27:21,043 and her sisters and her brother 489 00:27:21,376 --> 00:27:22,836 to her New York debut. 490 00:27:24,296 --> 00:27:29,217 It was opposite of the culture of our family. 491 00:27:34,222 --> 00:27:37,392 She was really never that sexy, sultry person. 492 00:27:38,268 --> 00:27:41,771 But even though that persona they had given it to her 493 00:27:42,021 --> 00:27:45,149 that persona was the door that took her where she needed to go. 494 00:27:51,948 --> 00:27:54,659 Well, obviously, America was ready for it. 495 00:27:55,618 --> 00:27:58,871 Was Donna Summer ready for the stardom name in lights 496 00:27:59,288 --> 00:28:00,331 bodyguards? 497 00:28:03,250 --> 00:28:05,586 Yeah, I have a very hard time, not being myself. 498 00:28:06,837 --> 00:28:09,673 And there are times when you can't be yourself 499 00:28:10,340 --> 00:28:12,217 and you can't be the way you'd like to be. 500 00:28:12,301 --> 00:28:14,011 And that's goofy, or funny 501 00:28:14,094 --> 00:28:15,595 or whatever you are as a human being 502 00:28:15,679 --> 00:28:17,931 as a person offstage. 503 00:28:18,348 --> 00:28:20,225 So what I'm trying to do more and more now 504 00:28:20,308 --> 00:28:21,935 is to become myself on stage 505 00:28:22,018 --> 00:28:24,104 so that when I'm offstage, it doesn't matter. 506 00:28:25,105 --> 00:28:27,774 And so that the same person you meet in this room 507 00:28:27,857 --> 00:28:29,400 is the same person onstage. 508 00:28:36,324 --> 00:28:37,909 - Fever - Summer 509 00:28:39,577 --> 00:28:41,829 - Summer fever - Fever 510 00:28:43,664 --> 00:28:45,791 It's the time of love 511 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,960 The time of year 512 00:28:48,460 --> 00:28:52,715 Temperatures rising Our bodies near in fever 513 00:28:53,215 --> 00:28:54,258 Summer 514 00:28:55,467 --> 00:28:56,844 Summer fever 515 00:28:57,135 --> 00:28:58,178 Fever 516 00:28:59,930 --> 00:29:02,391 Giorgio, growing up, my mom always spoke 517 00:29:02,474 --> 00:29:06,228 about how important you were to her life. 518 00:29:07,062 --> 00:29:08,438 How did you guys meet? 519 00:29:10,482 --> 00:29:11,816 We were looking for 520 00:29:11,900 --> 00:29:14,235 some American or English singers 521 00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:15,361 for a demo. 522 00:29:15,570 --> 00:29:18,239 Donna came, and we did the vocals 523 00:29:18,323 --> 00:29:19,657 and we were very happy. 524 00:29:25,204 --> 00:29:26,414 So I started working with Giorgio 525 00:29:26,497 --> 00:29:28,332 and this is the beginning of a great relationship. 526 00:29:28,749 --> 00:29:30,334 Giorgio really took me under his wing 527 00:29:30,418 --> 00:29:32,211 even before I had a hit record. 528 00:29:32,586 --> 00:29:33,796 He was like a mentor. 529 00:29:34,296 --> 00:29:36,882 He was a redeeming factor in my life 530 00:29:36,966 --> 00:29:38,467 from some of the abusive men 531 00:29:38,550 --> 00:29:40,886 or men figures that I had had in the past 532 00:29:41,428 --> 00:29:44,389 or people I had chosen to trust who were not worthy of that trust. 533 00:29:44,932 --> 00:29:46,642 Georgio was the antithesis of that. 534 00:29:47,893 --> 00:29:50,103 - You wanna put a fender on? - A fender, yes. 535 00:29:50,187 --> 00:29:51,354 - Make it a little fuller? - Yeah. 536 00:29:51,646 --> 00:29:54,774 I had a... I had a very close relationship with her. 537 00:29:55,025 --> 00:29:56,818 She definitely trusted us. 538 00:29:57,068 --> 00:29:59,863 And in fact, whatever we did, we did well. 539 00:30:01,865 --> 00:30:04,367 I came up with the... with Georgio with the... 540 00:30:05,994 --> 00:30:07,036 I feel love 541 00:30:07,287 --> 00:30:08,329 It fit well. 542 00:30:10,415 --> 00:30:12,625 Which just changed the face of music for a while. 543 00:30:13,042 --> 00:30:14,919 I mean, I figure it was like maybe a year or two 544 00:30:15,002 --> 00:30:16,170 after Love To Love You Baby. 545 00:30:18,547 --> 00:30:21,175 I said, "Wow, great. This is totally new." 546 00:30:21,509 --> 00:30:22,551 When I went in to do it 547 00:30:22,635 --> 00:30:25,304 I had the sense that I was floating. 548 00:30:25,888 --> 00:30:27,890 And that's what we wanted to maintain 549 00:30:27,973 --> 00:30:29,433 that floaty kind of 550 00:30:29,516 --> 00:30:32,060 that elation that you feel when you're in love. 551 00:30:32,144 --> 00:30:33,187 That kind of... 552 00:30:33,270 --> 00:30:37,024 I think it's probably one of the most innovative songs around. 553 00:30:37,107 --> 00:30:44,656 I feel love 554 00:30:45,115 --> 00:30:46,533 This was the very first 555 00:30:47,075 --> 00:30:49,119 drum machine click trick 556 00:30:49,327 --> 00:30:50,578 ever used in music. 557 00:30:51,412 --> 00:30:54,624 We weren't listening to what other people were doing 558 00:30:54,707 --> 00:30:56,834 and trying to emulate. 559 00:30:57,502 --> 00:30:58,753 We were forging ahead. 560 00:30:59,754 --> 00:31:02,173 It sounds grandiose, but I think others were following. 561 00:31:08,471 --> 00:31:13,809 Whatever dance songs came up later on with electronics 562 00:31:14,310 --> 00:31:16,186 is based on... on I Feel Love. 563 00:31:20,524 --> 00:31:22,025 I remember when I Feel Love came on 564 00:31:22,109 --> 00:31:23,568 at Studio 54 565 00:31:24,778 --> 00:31:26,405 you just stopped in your tracks. 566 00:31:26,905 --> 00:31:28,240 "What is this?" 567 00:31:28,865 --> 00:31:29,908 People screamed. 568 00:31:30,367 --> 00:31:31,618 It just went on and on and on 569 00:31:31,701 --> 00:31:33,161 and you didn't want it to stop. 570 00:31:33,954 --> 00:31:35,080 It sounded like no other record. 571 00:31:36,498 --> 00:31:38,500 It changed the way people thought about music. 572 00:31:39,125 --> 00:31:43,755 I feel love... 573 00:31:48,176 --> 00:31:55,891 I feel love 574 00:31:55,975 --> 00:32:03,232 I feel love 575 00:32:03,482 --> 00:32:05,192 I feel love 576 00:32:05,275 --> 00:32:06,527 Where do you feel you stand now? 577 00:32:07,111 --> 00:32:10,656 I hope I stand in a light of legitimacy, I think. 578 00:32:11,698 --> 00:32:13,950 In a place where people will respect what I do 579 00:32:14,284 --> 00:32:16,620 and understand that any... any songs that I make 580 00:32:16,703 --> 00:32:17,996 I do because I choose to 581 00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:19,748 and not because that is my limitation. 582 00:32:20,624 --> 00:32:23,752 How long are you going to maintain this... this image 583 00:32:23,835 --> 00:32:25,837 that's based on Love to Love You Baby? 584 00:32:26,546 --> 00:32:28,965 Well, I think I've deviated from that path already. 585 00:32:29,757 --> 00:32:30,883 I won't even... You know 586 00:32:31,175 --> 00:32:35,763 I hate for it to sound like I'm... I'm running away from anything 587 00:32:35,847 --> 00:32:36,973 because I'm really not. 588 00:32:37,056 --> 00:32:38,683 I think it's more like... 589 00:32:38,891 --> 00:32:41,394 I'm growing and... 590 00:32:42,687 --> 00:32:44,480 It's like looking at a flower in the bud 591 00:32:44,563 --> 00:32:46,023 and you first see the bud, and you say 592 00:32:46,106 --> 00:32:47,983 "Wow, fantastic, the trees are budding." 593 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,277 And then you go back, and the leaves are out. 594 00:32:50,361 --> 00:32:52,196 And then finally, there's a flower. 595 00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:53,739 And I feel that when I came to America 596 00:32:53,822 --> 00:32:55,199 I was in the budding stage. 597 00:32:55,616 --> 00:32:58,452 And maybe I'm springing a leaf about now 598 00:32:58,910 --> 00:33:00,746 and maybe one day, I'll be a blossom. 599 00:33:06,418 --> 00:33:07,460 Hey, Chico! 600 00:33:09,004 --> 00:33:10,088 Get out of the way! 601 00:33:12,590 --> 00:33:13,633 Get outta the way! 602 00:33:14,926 --> 00:33:17,053 Hey, jerk! I listen to my music! 603 00:33:17,345 --> 00:33:19,389 Hey, I listen to my music! 604 00:33:19,555 --> 00:33:22,475 - Disco been very good to me! - Yeah! 605 00:33:22,767 --> 00:33:24,894 - Get outta the way! - Oh, shut up! 606 00:33:32,777 --> 00:33:35,821 If you feel it, feel it right 607 00:33:36,071 --> 00:33:38,866 You got to feel it every night 608 00:33:38,949 --> 00:33:42,661 - Feel that - And if you feel it, feel it right 609 00:33:42,744 --> 00:33:46,039 You got to feel it every night, yeah 610 00:33:46,123 --> 00:33:49,334 Well, if you feel it, feel it so good 611 00:33:49,418 --> 00:33:52,337 You got to feel it like you should 612 00:33:52,420 --> 00:33:56,007 - Feel that - And if you feel it, feel it good 613 00:33:56,132 --> 00:33:59,594 - You got to feel it like you should - Feel that 614 00:33:59,677 --> 00:34:01,679 Take it down, boys. Now... 615 00:34:03,389 --> 00:34:04,432 do you love somebody? 616 00:34:05,433 --> 00:34:07,101 Does everybody here have somebody they love? 617 00:34:08,394 --> 00:34:09,437 No? 618 00:34:09,645 --> 00:34:11,772 Well, love me for right now, okay? 619 00:34:12,148 --> 00:34:13,399 Just give me a little bit of love 620 00:34:13,608 --> 00:34:14,734 and let me see you stand up. 621 00:34:14,817 --> 00:34:16,235 Stand up out your seats. Come on. 622 00:34:16,986 --> 00:34:20,030 Now let's shake those hips. Come on. Oh, yeah. 623 00:34:20,281 --> 00:34:21,323 Do you believe in love? 624 00:34:21,949 --> 00:34:22,992 Do you believe in love? 625 00:34:23,617 --> 00:34:24,660 Do you believe in love? 626 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,328 Do you believe in love? 627 00:34:26,870 --> 00:34:28,122 Do you believe in love? 628 00:34:28,455 --> 00:34:29,873 Do you believe in love? 629 00:34:30,207 --> 00:34:31,375 Do you believe in love? 630 00:34:31,458 --> 00:34:32,709 Come on shake your hand now. 631 00:34:33,168 --> 00:34:34,586 Do you believe in love? 632 00:34:34,711 --> 00:34:35,754 Come on. 633 00:34:39,132 --> 00:34:40,175 Feel it 634 00:34:41,468 --> 00:34:42,510 Oh, yeah 635 00:34:42,594 --> 00:34:44,721 - Feel it. Feel it - Feel it 636 00:34:46,139 --> 00:34:48,141 Thank you for coming tonight. I'm happy to see you. 637 00:34:48,349 --> 00:34:49,392 Thank you for coming. 638 00:34:50,810 --> 00:34:52,896 Thank you, and I love you, too. Thank you for coming. 639 00:34:53,187 --> 00:34:54,230 Thank you so much. 640 00:35:25,093 --> 00:35:26,928 When you have success all over the world 641 00:35:27,012 --> 00:35:29,681 and it's very constant, you have it. 642 00:35:29,764 --> 00:35:31,182 It's all the time. It's everywhere you go. 643 00:35:31,266 --> 00:35:32,767 It's like you never get a break. 644 00:35:34,436 --> 00:35:35,812 I didn't dream about fame that way. 645 00:35:35,895 --> 00:35:36,938 I dreamt about singing. 646 00:35:38,148 --> 00:35:40,984 Whenever I dreamt about fame, it was being on stage. 647 00:35:41,943 --> 00:35:45,363 It wasn't the accolades and all the people screaming "I love you." 648 00:35:46,531 --> 00:35:48,407 So when that part came into it 649 00:35:48,491 --> 00:35:49,575 it... it threw me for a loop 650 00:35:49,659 --> 00:35:51,452 because I really didn't have to deal with that. 651 00:36:26,611 --> 00:36:29,864 We did a demo of Bad Girls, everything was done. 652 00:36:29,948 --> 00:36:30,990 The song was finished. 653 00:36:31,074 --> 00:36:32,158 We listened to it over and over again. 654 00:36:32,241 --> 00:36:34,786 I'm like, "There is something missing to this song." 655 00:36:35,495 --> 00:36:37,246 I think this song needs a hook. 656 00:36:38,581 --> 00:36:39,790 I said, "I got this idea 657 00:36:39,999 --> 00:36:42,001 this imagery of, 'How do you haul a hooker?'" 658 00:36:45,171 --> 00:36:46,213 You're honking your horn. 659 00:36:46,422 --> 00:36:47,590 You're trying to get her attention. 660 00:36:47,673 --> 00:36:48,716 It's like, "Over here." 661 00:36:51,009 --> 00:36:53,387 - Bad girls - Bad girls 662 00:36:53,971 --> 00:36:57,599 - Talking about the sad girls, yes - Sad girls 663 00:36:59,017 --> 00:37:01,520 - Bad girls - Bad girls 664 00:37:01,978 --> 00:37:05,482 Talking about sad girls, yeah 665 00:37:07,150 --> 00:37:10,236 See them out on the street at night 666 00:37:11,237 --> 00:37:14,824 Picking up all kinds of strangers If the price is right 667 00:37:15,450 --> 00:37:17,994 You can score if your pocket's nice 668 00:37:19,412 --> 00:37:20,455 But you want a good time 669 00:37:20,538 --> 00:37:21,664 Everybody's sang in my family. 670 00:37:21,747 --> 00:37:23,791 My father sang. My mother sang. 671 00:37:27,712 --> 00:37:30,047 Every time my father had company or my mother had company 672 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,676 my mother would call me and my sisters into the room 673 00:37:33,926 --> 00:37:34,969 to perform 674 00:37:35,094 --> 00:37:36,470 and they would just go crazy. 675 00:37:41,809 --> 00:37:44,269 So... so we had these sort of little outlets 676 00:37:44,353 --> 00:37:47,230 of performing a bit of an idea or insight 677 00:37:47,522 --> 00:37:50,859 as to what it was like to have people applaud for you. 678 00:37:51,610 --> 00:37:53,695 We did impersonations as much as we could. 679 00:38:10,628 --> 00:38:13,381 Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. We will be back tomorrow night. 680 00:38:13,464 --> 00:38:14,507 See you again. We hope... 681 00:38:14,757 --> 00:38:16,175 Do you live here in California? 682 00:38:16,258 --> 00:38:20,304 I live about, I think, 40,000 ft above. 683 00:38:20,679 --> 00:38:22,181 Usually in one direction or the other. 684 00:38:22,264 --> 00:38:23,557 - I... I haven't been home at all. - You're always in a plane. 685 00:38:23,641 --> 00:38:26,852 Yeah. I haven't been home. Maybe two-and-a-half months this year. 686 00:38:32,441 --> 00:38:37,112 I'm always amazed at the amount of songs she released 687 00:38:37,195 --> 00:38:39,030 the press that she did, the tours 688 00:38:39,114 --> 00:38:42,409 from like 1976 to like 1980. 689 00:38:44,369 --> 00:38:45,829 I don't know how she survived it. 690 00:38:47,414 --> 00:38:48,456 During that time 691 00:38:48,540 --> 00:38:50,500 when she was really first famous 692 00:38:50,667 --> 00:38:51,709 I think she knew 693 00:38:52,252 --> 00:38:53,670 that was a part of the game. 694 00:38:55,254 --> 00:38:57,840 I think she understood that that came with the territory. 695 00:38:58,007 --> 00:38:59,467 And so she... she marched it. 696 00:39:00,635 --> 00:39:02,720 It wasn't that she loved it all. 697 00:39:03,596 --> 00:39:06,182 She just tried to keep her sanity. 698 00:39:09,476 --> 00:39:12,855 How do you think she felt about the title "Queen of Disco?" 699 00:39:14,106 --> 00:39:15,149 I know she would say, "Hey 700 00:39:15,232 --> 00:39:16,817 it's better to be the queen of something," you know. 701 00:39:17,734 --> 00:39:20,028 But in some ways, it was love-hate 702 00:39:20,112 --> 00:39:22,030 because, "Yeah, I love disco. 703 00:39:22,114 --> 00:39:23,490 Disco got me here. 704 00:39:23,573 --> 00:39:25,534 But that's not all of who I am." 705 00:39:34,918 --> 00:39:37,504 I had done all those songs in this made-up voice 706 00:39:37,879 --> 00:39:40,173 so people thought, "Oh, well, she's a fad. 707 00:39:40,548 --> 00:39:42,800 Oh, she can't really sing. This girl doesn't sing. 708 00:39:43,718 --> 00:39:45,011 What's the big deal about her?" 709 00:39:48,097 --> 00:39:49,890 You know, you can look at somebody who's talented 710 00:39:49,974 --> 00:39:53,269 and... and you can know that they're capable of 20 things 711 00:39:53,352 --> 00:39:55,062 but the audience doesn't know that yet. 712 00:39:55,396 --> 00:39:57,439 And I always take it from that point of view 713 00:39:57,523 --> 00:39:59,149 that they just don't know me yet. 714 00:39:59,733 --> 00:40:00,776 That's okay. 715 00:40:03,654 --> 00:40:07,908 Spring was never waiting for us, dear 716 00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:11,328 It ran one step ahead 717 00:40:12,037 --> 00:40:13,789 As we followed in 718 00:40:14,122 --> 00:40:15,957 The dance 719 00:40:26,050 --> 00:40:28,636 Between the parted pages 720 00:40:28,803 --> 00:40:30,054 We were pressed 721 00:40:30,847 --> 00:40:33,349 In love's hot, fevered iron 722 00:40:34,058 --> 00:40:37,561 Like a striped pair of pants 723 00:40:46,695 --> 00:40:51,200 MacArthur's Park is melting In the dark 724 00:40:51,742 --> 00:40:56,622 All the sweet green icing Flowing down 725 00:40:57,372 --> 00:41:01,626 Someone left my cake out in the rain 726 00:41:02,586 --> 00:41:06,798 I don't think that I can take it 727 00:41:07,007 --> 00:41:10,260 'Cause it took too long to bake it 728 00:41:10,510 --> 00:41:16,265 And I'll never have that recipe again 729 00:41:17,058 --> 00:41:24,315 Again 730 00:41:35,284 --> 00:41:36,327 All right. 731 00:41:38,245 --> 00:41:42,165 Best Rhythm and Blues Vocal Performance Female is... 732 00:41:45,544 --> 00:41:46,586 Donna Summer. 733 00:41:49,005 --> 00:41:52,008 And the winner is Donna Summer. 734 00:41:54,135 --> 00:41:55,303 Donna Summer. 735 00:41:55,387 --> 00:41:56,846 {\an5}- Donna Summer. - Live and More. 736 00:41:56,930 --> 00:41:58,389 I knew it. Donna Summer. 737 00:41:58,681 --> 00:41:59,724 All right. 738 00:42:04,646 --> 00:42:05,772 Now, ladies and gentlemen 739 00:42:05,855 --> 00:42:08,775 we're having a moment of station identification. 740 00:42:27,209 --> 00:42:31,672 We remember so well the days of lipstick and women. 741 00:42:33,298 --> 00:42:38,720 Well, those were the days when women used to not smear it on. 742 00:42:39,596 --> 00:42:41,681 They used to molest the lipstick. 743 00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:45,435 I was always a comedian. 744 00:42:45,518 --> 00:42:46,561 I was always a clown. 745 00:42:47,479 --> 00:42:50,481 So becoming Donna Summer the character 746 00:42:50,982 --> 00:42:52,483 I didn't feel sexy at the time 747 00:42:52,567 --> 00:42:54,277 and so I just assumed it as a role. 748 00:42:57,655 --> 00:43:00,032 This time that I spent away from home 749 00:43:00,324 --> 00:43:02,660 away from the mindset that I grew up in 750 00:43:02,952 --> 00:43:04,662 away from what should be 751 00:43:04,995 --> 00:43:06,705 away from how I should be 752 00:43:08,249 --> 00:43:09,792 is what has made me what I am 753 00:43:10,834 --> 00:43:15,964 and has given me my individuality away from all of the predictable. 754 00:43:16,798 --> 00:43:18,091 And so I'm unpredictable 755 00:43:18,675 --> 00:43:20,927 and that... that stresses the crap outta people. 756 00:43:53,793 --> 00:43:55,836 Do you feel like you're handling your success now? 757 00:43:57,671 --> 00:43:59,631 Sometimes. Shaky. Yeah. Shaky. 758 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,093 I think the part that I really have to deal with the most is my daughter. 759 00:44:03,635 --> 00:44:04,678 Is she with your folks? 760 00:44:04,761 --> 00:44:07,389 She's with my parents in... in Massachusetts. 761 00:44:07,723 --> 00:44:09,850 And what is so hard about it is that 762 00:44:10,058 --> 00:44:11,268 as much as I miss her 763 00:44:11,768 --> 00:44:13,478 and as much as I want to be with her 764 00:44:13,854 --> 00:44:14,896 as soon as she's there 765 00:44:15,272 --> 00:44:17,607 I have to go back to her way. 766 00:44:17,691 --> 00:44:18,858 It's a constant adjustment. 767 00:44:19,317 --> 00:44:22,070 So the first couple of days, it's I have to become a parent again. 768 00:44:22,153 --> 00:44:23,404 And the responsibility of that 769 00:44:23,488 --> 00:44:25,448 and the weight of that is... is immense. 770 00:44:28,743 --> 00:44:31,788 I could tell that she was trying hard. 771 00:44:32,413 --> 00:44:34,916 She would be like, "Okay, Mimi let's go play outside. 772 00:44:34,999 --> 00:44:36,292 I'm gonna make you breakfast." 773 00:44:36,709 --> 00:44:40,379 And I knew that that was something that she didn't do often. 774 00:44:40,671 --> 00:44:43,048 So for me, I always felt like, "Wow, she's really trying." 775 00:44:43,132 --> 00:44:45,551 She's trying to make time. She's trying to carve time out. 776 00:44:52,516 --> 00:44:54,434 When I would be alone with her 777 00:44:54,518 --> 00:44:55,560 we would go to bed or something. 778 00:44:55,644 --> 00:44:58,814 I'd sleep in the bed with her, and she would just be exhausted. 779 00:44:59,398 --> 00:45:01,107 You could just see it in her face. 780 00:45:01,358 --> 00:45:03,318 It wasn't just like, "I'm tired." 781 00:45:03,568 --> 00:45:06,112 It was like a soul weariness, though. 782 00:45:06,529 --> 00:45:08,323 It almost made me sad for her. 783 00:45:08,698 --> 00:45:10,742 I get to go back to my grandparents' house 784 00:45:10,867 --> 00:45:11,910 and have a normal life 785 00:45:11,993 --> 00:45:15,163 but she is getting pulled in every direction. 786 00:45:17,248 --> 00:45:19,041 Donna was trying to navigate 787 00:45:19,167 --> 00:45:20,918 being a mother and be a good mother. 788 00:45:21,210 --> 00:45:24,463 But to know that you have a destiny in this arena 789 00:45:24,797 --> 00:45:28,008 and yet you have this responsibility that is important to you 790 00:45:28,134 --> 00:45:31,095 there's no examples as to how to make that balance correct. 791 00:45:32,221 --> 00:45:36,058 Donna's decision to have Mom and Dad take care of her 792 00:45:36,266 --> 00:45:38,060 was one which she knew she would be loved 793 00:45:38,143 --> 00:45:39,394 she knew she'd be nurtured 794 00:45:39,478 --> 00:45:41,772 and she knew she'd be safe. 795 00:45:43,899 --> 00:45:46,068 I don't think you understand what it's like being the daughter 796 00:45:46,151 --> 00:45:48,403 of someone who is always gone. 797 00:45:49,613 --> 00:45:51,281 My daughter looked up at me one day last week 798 00:45:51,364 --> 00:45:52,407 and she said, "Mommy 799 00:45:53,074 --> 00:45:55,118 when are you just gonna stay home one day 800 00:45:55,827 --> 00:45:56,870 and be with me?" 801 00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:00,039 And I didn't realize that I hadn't spent any time with her 802 00:46:00,123 --> 00:46:01,165 for a long time. 803 00:46:02,083 --> 00:46:05,461 So I sat down and wrote this song after she went to bed 804 00:46:06,421 --> 00:46:08,381 and I told her tonight, when it was bedtime 805 00:46:08,673 --> 00:46:09,924 I would sing her a song. 806 00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:22,519 I bet you ask yourself 807 00:46:24,063 --> 00:46:26,064 Why I'm never there 808 00:46:27,274 --> 00:46:31,486 It's not because I like being away 809 00:46:32,988 --> 00:46:34,031 You see 810 00:46:35,574 --> 00:46:39,786 I've made a spectacle of myself 811 00:46:40,161 --> 00:46:46,084 And it seems That the whole world needs me 812 00:46:49,087 --> 00:46:53,591 I understand when you cry alone 813 00:46:54,717 --> 00:46:58,137 And mama's not there 814 00:46:58,471 --> 00:47:01,182 To wipe your eyes 815 00:47:01,807 --> 00:47:04,977 When I heard the Mimi song, it was like, "Oh, my gosh." 816 00:47:05,436 --> 00:47:06,979 I was like, "She wrote a song for me." 817 00:47:08,147 --> 00:47:09,815 She really feels this way about me. 818 00:47:12,526 --> 00:47:14,278 Someone to make you proud 819 00:47:14,361 --> 00:47:17,447 There was such a great bond that it had created 820 00:47:17,531 --> 00:47:18,573 that song 821 00:47:18,949 --> 00:47:21,368 just to spend the time with her doing what she does 822 00:47:21,451 --> 00:47:22,494 and being with her. 823 00:47:22,911 --> 00:47:25,205 I just remember feeling elated as a kid. 824 00:47:25,288 --> 00:47:30,335 With so much love 825 00:47:30,418 --> 00:47:31,461 Come on, Mimi. 826 00:47:33,004 --> 00:47:35,256 'Cause you're lovely 827 00:47:35,381 --> 00:47:37,091 'Cause you're lovely 828 00:47:37,634 --> 00:47:40,845 And you're beautiful 829 00:47:42,513 --> 00:47:48,644 And you understand 830 00:47:48,936 --> 00:47:50,896 - Say good night to everyone. - Good night. 831 00:48:01,865 --> 00:48:04,243 Money and success does not make you happy. 832 00:48:05,494 --> 00:48:06,536 I know it for a fact 833 00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:10,957 because for me, the most dismal days of my existence 834 00:48:11,041 --> 00:48:12,250 were at the height of my career. 835 00:48:14,711 --> 00:48:17,547 It was like wearing an evening gown that was too tight, you know? 836 00:48:18,298 --> 00:48:19,466 You know, everything was popping out 837 00:48:19,549 --> 00:48:20,717 and I needed more space. 838 00:48:23,344 --> 00:48:25,597 I saw the self I was striving to be. 839 00:48:26,014 --> 00:48:28,224 All of a sudden, it seemed further away than ever. 840 00:48:30,476 --> 00:48:32,270 Feeling guilty, or feeling shame 841 00:48:32,353 --> 00:48:35,189 or feeling all the things that had been part of my life. 842 00:48:41,445 --> 00:48:43,572 I was molested by a minister when I was in my teens. 843 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:51,872 It's not pain I could have spoken about. 844 00:48:53,206 --> 00:48:57,627 But it's something that I have to always incorporate into my reality. 845 00:49:02,591 --> 00:49:03,633 Uncle Ricky. 846 00:49:03,925 --> 00:49:08,930 Mom never talked about being abused by the pastor with me. 847 00:49:10,181 --> 00:49:12,809 Did she ever talk to you about it? 848 00:49:13,726 --> 00:49:14,769 Yes. 849 00:49:15,978 --> 00:49:17,855 He did a lot of damage to a lot of people. 850 00:49:17,939 --> 00:49:19,982 Did the devil's work better than most. 851 00:49:21,984 --> 00:49:23,694 I believe... I believe that... 852 00:49:25,363 --> 00:49:27,573 it became a defining moment in her life. 853 00:49:27,656 --> 00:49:30,701 It's not easy when you don't have the ability to tell people. 854 00:49:31,911 --> 00:49:32,953 But how do you get out of it? 855 00:49:41,712 --> 00:49:43,547 There were other things that had gone on in my life. 856 00:49:43,630 --> 00:49:47,050 Things in my own sense of morality that I felt that I had crossed 857 00:49:47,134 --> 00:49:50,345 like, that I felt God could never forgive me because I... I failed. 858 00:49:50,428 --> 00:49:52,722 And I... I was decadent. 859 00:49:52,806 --> 00:49:54,099 I was stupid. 860 00:49:54,432 --> 00:49:55,600 You know? I was a fool. 861 00:49:56,976 --> 00:49:59,938 So I just decided that my life had no meaning. 862 00:50:06,736 --> 00:50:07,778 I was in New York. 863 00:50:08,613 --> 00:50:11,866 I was alone in the then-Navarro Hotel 864 00:50:11,949 --> 00:50:13,784 on Central Park South. 865 00:50:18,664 --> 00:50:19,915 I'd been watching TV. 866 00:50:22,459 --> 00:50:24,002 I just broke down and said 867 00:50:24,086 --> 00:50:27,339 "I am not gonna live another day like this." 868 00:50:30,133 --> 00:50:32,761 I had not been able to sleep, and I was lying in bed. 869 00:50:32,844 --> 00:50:35,096 The lines on the TV were going up and up and up. 870 00:50:36,264 --> 00:50:37,390 And after a while, I think I feel... 871 00:50:37,474 --> 00:50:39,517 I was... it was almost like being hypnotized. 872 00:50:43,730 --> 00:50:46,649 And it was... it was crushing to me. 873 00:50:47,066 --> 00:50:48,401 And I thought, "You know what? 874 00:50:48,860 --> 00:50:51,029 I'm never gonna be who I am. 875 00:50:51,571 --> 00:50:53,656 You know? I'm gonna be stuck being this person. 876 00:50:54,073 --> 00:50:55,158 How do I get out of it?" 877 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,914 And on that day, I... I just said 878 00:51:01,997 --> 00:51:03,082 "I'm... I'm getting outta here. 879 00:51:03,165 --> 00:51:04,500 I'm leaving. I... I gotta go 880 00:51:04,708 --> 00:51:06,418 and I put my foot out the window." 881 00:51:06,752 --> 00:51:09,421 And as I shifted my weight to slide out the window 882 00:51:09,588 --> 00:51:11,799 my foot got caught into this thin curtain. 883 00:51:11,924 --> 00:51:13,383 And at that precise moment 884 00:51:13,467 --> 00:51:14,510 the door opened 885 00:51:14,676 --> 00:51:16,220 and it was my house cleaning lady... 886 00:51:18,513 --> 00:51:20,724 and she opened the door enough to look right at me and go 887 00:51:20,807 --> 00:51:22,934 "Oh, Ms. Summer, I came to clean up today." 888 00:51:23,810 --> 00:51:26,062 Another ten seconds, I would've been gone. 889 00:51:45,665 --> 00:51:46,874 - The Rolling Stone. - Yeah. 890 00:51:48,292 --> 00:51:49,835 That must have been a big deal, huh? 891 00:51:50,211 --> 00:51:51,420 It was a big deal at the time 892 00:51:51,504 --> 00:51:53,672 because, first of all, black. 893 00:51:54,256 --> 00:51:55,841 - Second of all, woman. - Yeah. 894 00:51:56,175 --> 00:51:58,927 So it was a big get at the time. 895 00:51:59,303 --> 00:52:00,345 And... 896 00:52:01,555 --> 00:52:03,432 Were you guys dating then or not yet? 897 00:52:03,515 --> 00:52:05,142 Yeah. No. We were definitely... Yeah, we were. 898 00:52:06,435 --> 00:52:07,894 We were dating from the moment we met. 899 00:52:08,270 --> 00:52:09,312 I noticed. 900 00:52:10,272 --> 00:52:12,691 Man stayed up All night 901 00:52:14,025 --> 00:52:17,362 And carried on 902 00:52:18,196 --> 00:52:21,324 And now He knows 903 00:52:21,449 --> 00:52:23,660 He wishes 904 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:29,082 He'd never gone 905 00:52:29,791 --> 00:52:30,833 And he knows... 906 00:52:30,917 --> 00:52:31,959 When I first met Donna 907 00:52:32,043 --> 00:52:34,629 in my egocentric 908 00:52:34,712 --> 00:52:37,048 elitist songwriter mind 909 00:52:37,339 --> 00:52:38,466 I think I kinda viewed her 910 00:52:38,549 --> 00:52:39,592 as a novelty. 911 00:52:40,551 --> 00:52:41,969 But then we sat down at the table 912 00:52:42,052 --> 00:52:43,345 started playing guitars 913 00:52:43,804 --> 00:52:44,972 and we just hit it off 914 00:52:45,055 --> 00:52:46,098 instantaneously. 915 00:52:47,891 --> 00:52:51,520 How much he Loves you, baby 916 00:52:51,603 --> 00:52:52,688 I'm coming after you. 917 00:52:52,771 --> 00:52:55,732 Stick your Baby home 918 00:52:58,276 --> 00:52:59,361 Did we submit the record? 919 00:52:59,736 --> 00:53:02,989 - Yeah, he liked it. - Man stayed out all night 920 00:53:03,073 --> 00:53:04,115 I love it. 921 00:53:04,532 --> 00:53:07,619 I had a girlfriend who was still in New York 922 00:53:08,703 --> 00:53:10,246 who I had been with a few years. 923 00:53:11,289 --> 00:53:12,999 Donna had this boyfriend. 924 00:53:13,791 --> 00:53:15,626 I don't know where he was that week 925 00:53:15,710 --> 00:53:16,753 but he was gone. 926 00:53:18,546 --> 00:53:19,714 The next week 927 00:53:19,797 --> 00:53:22,758 Donna and I just hung out together the whole time 928 00:53:23,426 --> 00:53:27,096 barely sleeping, just talking, writing. 929 00:53:28,556 --> 00:53:32,017 Within that time, we were bonded. 930 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,231 I brought this Bible with me and Donna liked that. 931 00:53:37,314 --> 00:53:40,734 She was like, "I never met a guy who, like, studied the Bible." 932 00:53:41,151 --> 00:53:43,987 My Bible was also my stash for my joints, you know? 933 00:53:47,407 --> 00:53:49,200 Someday you'll come along 934 00:53:51,328 --> 00:53:52,912 The man I love 935 00:53:54,914 --> 00:53:57,208 And he'll be rich and strong 936 00:53:58,918 --> 00:54:00,295 The man I love 937 00:54:02,922 --> 00:54:05,091 And when he comes my way 938 00:54:07,093 --> 00:54:09,136 I'll do my best 939 00:54:09,512 --> 00:54:14,934 To make him stay 940 00:54:15,559 --> 00:54:17,853 We had a lot in common 941 00:54:17,937 --> 00:54:20,689 in terms of our drive to succeed 942 00:54:20,773 --> 00:54:22,524 and to escape where we were from. 943 00:54:22,775 --> 00:54:24,568 I'll understand 944 00:54:24,651 --> 00:54:27,571 So we... we just had this intense beginning. 945 00:54:27,654 --> 00:54:28,697 For a while 946 00:54:30,657 --> 00:54:31,700 He'll take my hand... 947 00:54:31,783 --> 00:54:33,577 I wasn't a serious boyfriend type. 948 00:54:34,661 --> 00:54:36,538 I was serious about my career. 949 00:54:36,872 --> 00:54:37,914 And so was Donna. 950 00:54:38,707 --> 00:54:43,378 You know, that's part of what Donna and I recognized in each other. 951 00:54:46,005 --> 00:54:47,048 You know 952 00:54:47,382 --> 00:54:51,010 I'm the kinda lady that always meets the wrong man 953 00:54:51,219 --> 00:54:53,763 at the wrong place at the wrong time. 954 00:54:54,972 --> 00:54:57,475 I've always had that wrong kinda luck, you know? 955 00:54:59,852 --> 00:55:02,980 My man comes home biting, and screaming, and fussing, and... 956 00:55:03,063 --> 00:55:06,025 and then hit me, and beat my head on the side of the wall 957 00:55:06,609 --> 00:55:09,278 and you know, he doesn't treat me good at all. 958 00:55:10,362 --> 00:55:12,030 But I want him to. I need him. 959 00:55:12,114 --> 00:55:14,116 You see, my man just... 960 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,578 For all the bravado that appeared on the outside 961 00:55:18,662 --> 00:55:20,831 there was a great deal of insecurity underneath that. 962 00:55:23,375 --> 00:55:24,584 Fear of being alone 963 00:55:25,252 --> 00:55:28,755 led her into these relationships 964 00:55:29,047 --> 00:55:31,925 that, in her mind, were kinda like placeholders. 965 00:55:32,258 --> 00:55:36,554 I got it bad 966 00:55:36,929 --> 00:55:41,601 And that ain't good 967 00:55:43,060 --> 00:55:44,270 Nah, it ain't good 968 00:55:49,024 --> 00:55:53,237 Peter Muhldorfer was one of Donna's distractions. 969 00:55:55,948 --> 00:55:57,491 He was a very dark character. 970 00:55:58,117 --> 00:55:59,701 I have no good memories of him. 971 00:56:01,161 --> 00:56:05,248 I always felt very protective of her when he was in her life. 972 00:56:07,250 --> 00:56:12,255 He had the same vibrant imagination as Donna. 973 00:56:13,089 --> 00:56:14,341 He was very creative 974 00:56:15,008 --> 00:56:16,259 in a very dark way. 975 00:56:18,636 --> 00:56:20,430 My boyfriend Peter 976 00:56:20,555 --> 00:56:23,933 who was kind of abusive at the time 977 00:56:24,017 --> 00:56:26,602 and very possessive, extremely controlling. 978 00:56:28,563 --> 00:56:29,772 He would drink and be abusive 979 00:56:29,856 --> 00:56:31,816 and then he would apologize for the abuse. 980 00:56:35,361 --> 00:56:37,822 And you're going, "Well, you know, maybe it's just me. 981 00:56:37,905 --> 00:56:39,406 Maybe I did something to provoke him. 982 00:56:40,449 --> 00:56:41,700 Maybe I shouldn't have said that." 983 00:56:42,618 --> 00:56:44,411 'Cause you really don't wanna be alone 984 00:56:45,162 --> 00:56:47,289 because you're really afraid internally yourself. 985 00:56:48,874 --> 00:56:51,877 And something in you identifies with his fear of being alone. 986 00:56:57,632 --> 00:56:59,843 The more independence I've started to have 987 00:57:00,260 --> 00:57:01,720 the more Peter felt threatened. 988 00:57:04,681 --> 00:57:08,059 Even though there were a lot of new people in my life at that point 989 00:57:08,518 --> 00:57:11,145 there wasn't any one person other than Peter who... 990 00:57:11,479 --> 00:57:13,272 who I really believed loved me. 991 00:57:15,817 --> 00:57:20,613 I knew that as this wave of success grew 992 00:57:21,197 --> 00:57:23,407 he would be more jealous and more aggressive. 993 00:57:24,658 --> 00:57:27,995 I was fearful of the situation that I felt trapped by it. 994 00:57:31,206 --> 00:57:33,542 I was already secretly seeing Bruce by then 995 00:57:33,625 --> 00:57:35,043 because Bruce was like a safe haven. 996 00:57:37,087 --> 00:57:39,840 I had tried my best to get away from Peter. 997 00:57:44,386 --> 00:57:45,804 Peter, I'm curious. 998 00:57:45,887 --> 00:57:47,597 What was your impression of Bruce? 999 00:57:48,223 --> 00:57:51,267 You said you kind of suspected something going on. 1000 00:57:52,060 --> 00:57:54,104 When I came back from New York 1001 00:57:54,354 --> 00:57:55,730 Bruce and the guys 1002 00:57:55,814 --> 00:57:57,065 have been in the house. 1003 00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,944 I remember they were writing a song. 1004 00:58:02,862 --> 00:58:07,158 The lyrics was something laying heavy on my heart. 1005 00:58:09,076 --> 00:58:12,580 I felt there is something going on 1006 00:58:12,955 --> 00:58:14,248 some separation 1007 00:58:14,623 --> 00:58:17,668 and some plan or something like that. 1008 00:58:21,088 --> 00:58:22,965 And then, of course, we had a fight. 1009 00:58:26,593 --> 00:58:27,678 I got a phone call 1010 00:58:27,761 --> 00:58:28,929 in the middle of the night 1011 00:58:31,098 --> 00:58:32,182 and said to Neil 1012 00:58:32,265 --> 00:58:34,851 "Call our attorney and call the police." 1013 00:58:36,144 --> 00:58:37,979 A black eye and a bruised cheek 1014 00:58:38,063 --> 00:58:39,439 and broken ribs. 1015 00:58:41,024 --> 00:58:42,442 Donna was unconscious. 1016 00:58:45,111 --> 00:58:46,446 I had no respect for him. 1017 00:58:48,448 --> 00:58:49,782 She was becoming a star. 1018 00:58:49,866 --> 00:58:51,033 He could not handle that. 1019 00:58:57,248 --> 00:58:59,208 My recollection of Peter is 1020 00:58:59,417 --> 00:59:01,460 "This guy's crazy." 1021 00:59:03,003 --> 00:59:04,713 Police again coming to our house 1022 00:59:04,797 --> 00:59:06,173 me hiding in the bathroom 1023 00:59:06,256 --> 00:59:08,717 and hearing everything that was going on 1024 00:59:08,801 --> 00:59:11,011 and seeing police sirens and lights going off 1025 00:59:11,094 --> 00:59:16,850 and being so happy when Mom decided to be done with that relationship. 1026 00:59:21,938 --> 00:59:25,525 I did it as a white man with a black woman 1027 00:59:26,067 --> 00:59:30,029 and I did it with somebody who was a star already. 1028 00:59:32,282 --> 00:59:34,826 She called the management, and they had picked her up 1029 00:59:34,909 --> 00:59:36,327 and from that moment on 1030 00:59:36,536 --> 00:59:38,162 I haven't seen her anymore. 1031 00:59:40,164 --> 00:59:43,292 I hit her, and I never could forgive myself. 1032 00:59:48,506 --> 00:59:50,591 Watching Daddy dance 1033 00:59:52,551 --> 00:59:54,219 Watching Daddy dance 1034 00:59:56,638 --> 00:59:58,432 Watching Daddy dance 1035 00:59:58,682 --> 01:00:00,642 Okay, I wanna try it again. You're not just watching. 1036 01:00:00,726 --> 01:00:01,852 The first one was beautiful 1037 01:00:01,935 --> 01:00:03,895 but then, the ones after that, got a little bit sloppy. 1038 01:00:03,979 --> 01:00:05,981 - Yeah. - So do Watching Dad... You know. 1039 01:00:06,481 --> 01:00:08,358 How did you incorporate your family into your act? 1040 01:00:08,984 --> 01:00:11,444 Well, it was easy. They sing. 1041 01:00:11,778 --> 01:00:15,573 And I had been taking three other girls on tour with me 1042 01:00:15,657 --> 01:00:18,159 and I decided, "Why should I take someone else's family 1043 01:00:18,243 --> 01:00:19,285 all over the world with me?" 1044 01:00:21,704 --> 01:00:24,791 How important is it for an international star 1045 01:00:24,874 --> 01:00:25,917 someone like yourself... 1046 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,168 how important is it to have someone 1047 01:00:27,251 --> 01:00:28,294 - close to you? - Well... 1048 01:00:29,170 --> 01:00:30,713 It's very... Well, I think it's important for everyone 1049 01:00:30,796 --> 01:00:32,632 to have someone that, especially in my position 1050 01:00:32,715 --> 01:00:35,551 there's always the threat of whether someone loves you for you 1051 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,263 or whether they love you because of the advantage 1052 01:00:39,555 --> 01:00:41,390 of being with... with a person like you. 1053 01:00:49,273 --> 01:00:50,857 I didn't think about singing with her. 1054 01:00:50,941 --> 01:00:52,359 I just said, "Somebody has 1055 01:00:52,442 --> 01:00:53,485 to be out there with her." 1056 01:00:53,652 --> 01:00:55,070 She gotta have some family out there. 1057 01:00:55,153 --> 01:00:56,613 There's no family out there. 1058 01:00:57,197 --> 01:00:59,616 They gonna chew her up and spit her out. 1059 01:01:18,593 --> 01:01:20,303 It was really an exciting time. 1060 01:01:20,553 --> 01:01:24,056 It was like being on a roller coaster that never took a pit stop. 1061 01:01:30,396 --> 01:01:33,857 Sitting here eating My heart out waiting 1062 01:01:33,941 --> 01:01:36,401 Waiting for some lover to call 1063 01:01:37,402 --> 01:01:40,947 I dialed about A hundred numbers lately 1064 01:01:41,156 --> 01:01:43,408 Almost rang the phone off the wall 1065 01:01:43,825 --> 01:01:47,370 Looking for some hot stuff Baby, this evening 1066 01:01:47,704 --> 01:01:50,790 I need some hot stuff, baby, tonight 1067 01:01:51,082 --> 01:01:54,794 Gimme a little some hot stuff Baby, this evening 1068 01:01:55,587 --> 01:01:57,005 Gonna need your loving 1069 01:01:57,088 --> 01:02:00,466 - I got to have your love tonight - Hot stuff 1070 01:02:01,968 --> 01:02:03,803 - I need - Hot stuff 1071 01:02:05,596 --> 01:02:07,431 - Looking for - Hot stuff 1072 01:02:09,225 --> 01:02:13,729 Gotta have hot stuff, yeah! 1073 01:02:21,070 --> 01:02:22,112 Come on, let's boogie. 1074 01:02:28,660 --> 01:02:31,413 I just wanted to say that I think that we need to address 1075 01:02:32,455 --> 01:02:33,957 my approach to singing. 1076 01:02:34,416 --> 01:02:35,834 I approach it as an actress. 1077 01:02:37,252 --> 01:02:38,586 I... I'm not trying to be me. 1078 01:02:39,921 --> 01:02:41,923 What I am there to do is become the character 1079 01:02:42,006 --> 01:02:43,383 and then sing that song 1080 01:02:43,466 --> 01:02:45,593 in the context to who that character is. 1081 01:02:45,677 --> 01:02:46,719 Thank you. 1082 01:02:48,971 --> 01:02:52,141 Last dance 1083 01:02:53,517 --> 01:02:59,440 Last chance for love 1084 01:03:03,277 --> 01:03:07,197 Yes, it's my last chance 1085 01:03:08,866 --> 01:03:10,868 For romance 1086 01:03:12,995 --> 01:03:16,623 Tonight 1087 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,503 I need you 1088 01:03:24,547 --> 01:03:25,590 By me 1089 01:03:28,259 --> 01:03:31,471 Beside me 1090 01:03:31,554 --> 01:03:35,016 To guide me 1091 01:03:35,808 --> 01:03:37,393 And to hold me 1092 01:03:40,354 --> 01:03:41,814 To scold me 1093 01:03:43,024 --> 01:03:51,240 'Cause when I'm bad, I'm so, so bad 1094 01:03:52,449 --> 01:03:56,870 - So let's dance the last dance - Let's dance the last dance 1095 01:03:56,954 --> 01:04:00,415 - Let's dance the last dance - Let's dance the last dance 1096 01:04:00,499 --> 01:04:03,502 - Let's dance the last dance - Let's dance 1097 01:04:03,585 --> 01:04:07,380 Tonight 1098 01:04:07,589 --> 01:04:09,132 Last dance 1099 01:04:09,216 --> 01:04:12,427 It's my last chance for love 1100 01:04:12,552 --> 01:04:13,595 Hi. 1101 01:04:13,845 --> 01:04:16,306 Yes, it's my last chance 1102 01:04:16,389 --> 01:04:20,184 For romance tonight 1103 01:04:20,476 --> 01:04:24,939 - Oh, oh, I need you by me - I need you by me 1104 01:04:25,022 --> 01:04:28,359 - Beside me to guide me - Beside me 1105 01:04:28,442 --> 01:04:31,362 - To hold me, to scold me - To hold me, to scold me 1106 01:04:31,445 --> 01:04:35,449 Because when I'm bad, I'm so, so bad 1107 01:04:35,533 --> 01:04:39,078 - So let's dance the last dance - Let's dance the last dance 1108 01:04:39,286 --> 01:04:42,539 - Let's dance the last dance - Let's dance the last dance 1109 01:04:42,623 --> 01:04:45,501 - Let's dance the last dance - Let's dance 1110 01:04:45,584 --> 01:04:53,884 Tonight 1111 01:04:58,722 --> 01:04:59,764 This album 1112 01:05:00,181 --> 01:05:02,434 Donna Summer, Once Upon a Time 1113 01:05:02,976 --> 01:05:07,647 has gotten probably the best reviews of any new album 1114 01:05:07,772 --> 01:05:09,148 in the last ten years. 1115 01:05:09,232 --> 01:05:11,109 You... you can't believe them when you read them. 1116 01:05:11,943 --> 01:05:14,487 They're fantastic. It's what you call a concept album. 1117 01:05:15,112 --> 01:05:16,155 It's a story. 1118 01:05:16,531 --> 01:05:18,282 And Donna Summer rightly deserves them. 1119 01:05:18,366 --> 01:05:20,618 She's a phenomenon in the record industry. 1120 01:05:26,290 --> 01:05:30,127 Well, he searched and searched For nights and days 1121 01:05:30,210 --> 01:05:33,255 'Til he found the one he loved 1122 01:05:33,839 --> 01:05:37,759 And he wrapped her in his arms again 1123 01:05:37,843 --> 01:05:40,512 And then he thanked the stars above 1124 01:05:41,430 --> 01:05:45,350 That he found Who he'd been looking for 1125 01:05:45,433 --> 01:05:48,019 And he stared her in the eyes 1126 01:05:48,895 --> 01:05:56,194 - He said "I love you" - I love you... Yes, I do 1127 01:05:56,277 --> 01:05:57,320 He said 1128 01:05:57,403 --> 01:06:04,702 - "I love you" - I love you. I love you. I do 1129 01:06:07,705 --> 01:06:10,750 We have this expression of music called "the voice within the voice" 1130 01:06:11,167 --> 01:06:13,502 and it's the way you hear the note. 1131 01:06:15,170 --> 01:06:19,258 But did that cry that's in there that touches the pain in you? 1132 01:06:19,550 --> 01:06:21,593 And even sometimes, if it's a happy song 1133 01:06:21,677 --> 01:06:25,013 there's that cry in there that maybe touches something in you 1134 01:06:25,097 --> 01:06:27,182 that's hidden in that groaning place 1135 01:06:27,265 --> 01:06:28,558 that place that we get to. 1136 01:06:30,227 --> 01:06:37,067 - She said "I love you" - I love you... Yes, I do 1137 01:06:37,150 --> 01:06:44,657 - Yes, I really do - I love you... Yes, I do 1138 01:06:45,033 --> 01:06:48,870 - They said "I love you - I love you... 1139 01:06:48,953 --> 01:06:53,499 - Yes, I do" - I love you. I love you. Yes, I do 1140 01:06:56,627 --> 01:06:58,587 It... it's so funny how people write 1141 01:06:58,671 --> 01:07:01,382 you know, and... and a lot of writers write better under pressure. 1142 01:07:01,465 --> 01:07:02,591 I mean, under severe pressure. 1143 01:07:02,675 --> 01:07:05,427 Like it's-gotta-be-finished-yesterday kinda pressure. 1144 01:07:05,803 --> 01:07:08,347 I prefer to work in... in the way of concepts 1145 01:07:08,430 --> 01:07:11,099 have an idea and work it out to the end. 1146 01:07:11,516 --> 01:07:15,771 And after, you know, coming from being the disco queen 1147 01:07:15,854 --> 01:07:17,731 to, you know, like, "Where am I now?" 1148 01:07:17,898 --> 01:07:20,400 You know? "What is my voice best suited for?" 1149 01:07:21,526 --> 01:07:23,153 You... you just have to try a lot of things 1150 01:07:23,236 --> 01:07:24,321 until you find the right thing. 1151 01:07:24,404 --> 01:07:25,447 You have to keep going. 1152 01:07:25,822 --> 01:07:29,659 And I'm not... I'm not a person who has to sound like me. 1153 01:07:29,784 --> 01:07:32,287 I don't care if people know it's me in... some way. 1154 01:07:32,370 --> 01:07:34,997 I mean, I don't care if they go, "Oh, that's Donna Summer" 1155 01:07:35,081 --> 01:07:36,207 I kinda almost don't want them to. 1156 01:07:36,290 --> 01:07:37,542 I want them to be surprised. 1157 01:07:38,126 --> 01:07:40,711 "That's Donna Summer? Wow, man, she sounds totally different." 1158 01:07:41,087 --> 01:07:43,422 I think that is using your voice as an instrument. 1159 01:07:43,923 --> 01:07:45,132 Do you wake up in the middle of the night 1160 01:07:45,216 --> 01:07:46,258 - for example - Yes. 1161 01:07:46,342 --> 01:07:48,552 - and say, "Aha. I've got an idea?" - Yes. 1162 01:07:48,802 --> 01:07:50,763 Yes. Everywhere in the house, papers. 1163 01:07:51,055 --> 01:07:52,222 "Let's go! Don't throw that away! 1164 01:07:52,306 --> 01:07:53,390 Oh, my god. What happened to the... 1165 01:07:53,474 --> 01:07:55,267 Oh, what happened to the... the Brillo box? 1166 01:07:55,350 --> 01:07:56,393 What happened..." You know. 1167 01:07:58,145 --> 01:07:59,563 - All right, let's do it. - Ready? 1168 01:08:00,522 --> 01:08:01,565 - How does it start? - Electricity. 1169 01:08:02,024 --> 01:08:04,860 Electricity 1170 01:08:06,153 --> 01:08:07,320 We were just jamming. 1171 01:08:07,988 --> 01:08:09,030 Roll tape 1172 01:08:09,531 --> 01:08:12,075 set up the mics, headphones. 1173 01:08:12,951 --> 01:08:16,830 I don't wanna be the one To spoil the party 1174 01:08:17,539 --> 01:08:19,040 You know, we would just flow. 1175 01:08:19,123 --> 01:08:20,625 We would pick up one from the other. 1176 01:08:20,708 --> 01:08:23,586 We would add harmonies when we find a little groove. 1177 01:08:23,669 --> 01:08:26,297 Electricity 1178 01:08:27,048 --> 01:08:28,841 Love that powers me 1179 01:08:29,634 --> 01:08:33,721 I don't ever want This magic night to end 1180 01:08:34,847 --> 01:08:39,476 I don't know if I could stop Once we get started 1181 01:08:40,686 --> 01:08:43,772 It was never competitive, you know? 1182 01:08:43,856 --> 01:08:47,234 It was completely respectful of each other's gift. 1183 01:08:49,695 --> 01:08:54,324 I was always in awe of Mommy's mind. 1184 01:09:00,872 --> 01:09:02,999 You know, because of her persona 1185 01:09:03,249 --> 01:09:06,920 as, you know, sex goddess and First Lady of Love 1186 01:09:07,795 --> 01:09:12,049 her artistry as a songwriter got overlooked. 1187 01:09:26,188 --> 01:09:31,652 Dim all the lights 1188 01:09:35,030 --> 01:09:43,288 Dim all the lights 1189 01:09:47,542 --> 01:09:49,794 Dim all the lights, sweet darling 1190 01:09:49,878 --> 01:09:52,422 'Cause tonight, it's all the way 1191 01:09:53,173 --> 01:09:56,926 Hey, baby, turn up the old Victrola 1192 01:09:57,010 --> 01:10:00,096 Gonna dance the night away 1193 01:10:01,889 --> 01:10:04,433 Dim All the Lights is a song that she wrote by herself 1194 01:10:04,517 --> 01:10:09,980 and a root issue for Donna was when Dim All the Lights was out 1195 01:10:10,147 --> 01:10:12,107 and is flying up the charts 1196 01:10:12,316 --> 01:10:14,818 and it's in the top ten 1197 01:10:16,445 --> 01:10:18,864 but Neil wants to release Enough is Enough. 1198 01:10:18,947 --> 01:10:21,450 And Mommy says, "No, please. Don't release Enough is Enough yet. 1199 01:10:21,533 --> 01:10:24,453 Let's give Dim All the Lights a chance to go to number one." 1200 01:10:25,370 --> 01:10:26,705 She's just recorded a record 1201 01:10:26,788 --> 01:10:28,498 with Barbra Streisand 1202 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,793 and it will come out October 15th. 1203 01:10:32,335 --> 01:10:33,503 It's called Enough is Enough. 1204 01:10:35,255 --> 01:10:36,673 - That's news, huh? - That's news. 1205 01:10:36,756 --> 01:10:38,758 - Come on. Barbra... - You did it. You got it in. 1206 01:10:40,385 --> 01:10:42,512 I mean, I... that was the whole reason... 1207 01:10:42,595 --> 01:10:43,846 Is that the whole reason you were here, huh? 1208 01:10:44,180 --> 01:10:47,392 No. No, you... you know, just... 1209 01:10:47,475 --> 01:10:48,518 I thought you'd like that. 1210 01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,243 If you've had enough Don't put up with his stuff 1211 01:11:06,368 --> 01:11:08,370 Don't you do it 1212 01:11:10,163 --> 01:11:11,248 If you've had your fill 1213 01:11:11,331 --> 01:11:14,292 Did she talk about that situation with Casablanca? 1214 01:11:15,252 --> 01:11:16,294 For a long time, she didn't 1215 01:11:16,378 --> 01:11:17,420 actually believe it. 1216 01:11:17,629 --> 01:11:18,964 Here are these people who you... 1217 01:11:19,047 --> 01:11:20,340 You know, you working with them. 1218 01:11:20,423 --> 01:11:21,466 You love them. 1219 01:11:21,716 --> 01:11:23,593 You believe they have your best interests at heart 1220 01:11:23,843 --> 01:11:24,886 and they do 1221 01:11:24,969 --> 01:11:27,889 because your best interest is their best interest. 1222 01:11:28,181 --> 01:11:30,642 But... but money changes people. 1223 01:11:31,976 --> 01:11:34,479 Neil disregarded that request 1224 01:11:34,687 --> 01:11:36,314 and Enough is Enough came out 1225 01:11:36,522 --> 01:11:38,816 and Dim All the Lights peaked at number two. 1226 01:11:39,734 --> 01:11:44,947 And I think that was the initial feeling of, "This is not right. 1227 01:11:45,030 --> 01:11:46,740 Maybe this is running its course." 1228 01:12:04,049 --> 01:12:08,428 Two kids hanging In an alleyway 1229 01:12:08,553 --> 01:12:10,096 Talking about the money 1230 01:12:11,056 --> 01:12:12,891 That they just found 1231 01:12:17,562 --> 01:12:18,605 Mommy's out weary 1232 01:12:18,771 --> 01:12:21,649 Trying to make a way 1233 01:12:22,358 --> 01:12:23,401 But Daddy 1234 01:12:23,818 --> 01:12:25,695 Just long's you Tell the amount 1235 01:12:28,030 --> 01:12:30,449 And it's high time 1236 01:12:30,533 --> 01:12:33,202 That we make a change 1237 01:12:33,285 --> 01:12:35,496 And it's high time 1238 01:12:35,579 --> 01:12:38,207 That we start rearranging 1239 01:12:38,290 --> 01:12:39,958 Long... 1240 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:47,883 Hello? 1241 01:12:48,550 --> 01:12:49,593 Hello, who is this? 1242 01:12:55,140 --> 01:12:56,182 That's bullshit. 1243 01:12:59,269 --> 01:13:00,562 He's profiting by me. 1244 01:13:01,980 --> 01:13:03,982 I can be unhappy only so long. 1245 01:13:08,569 --> 01:13:09,612 The record business 1246 01:13:09,821 --> 01:13:12,532 is really like being raped and abused 1247 01:13:13,366 --> 01:13:14,408 over and over again 1248 01:13:15,618 --> 01:13:17,745 because the element of your sensitivity 1249 01:13:17,828 --> 01:13:20,456 is beaten up on and stepped on. 1250 01:13:22,541 --> 01:13:24,835 I wasn't justly compensated for what I had done. 1251 01:13:25,336 --> 01:13:26,462 I had sold millions of records 1252 01:13:26,545 --> 01:13:28,130 and not been paid for them at that point. 1253 01:13:33,510 --> 01:13:39,558 We were involved from '79 in a lawsuit with Casablanca Records 1254 01:13:40,183 --> 01:13:42,602 because they were taking advantage. 1255 01:13:44,145 --> 01:13:46,064 How significant was it 1256 01:13:46,147 --> 01:13:50,110 for particularly a black woman of that time to sue a label? 1257 01:13:50,485 --> 01:13:54,322 Certainly a high-profile situation 1258 01:13:54,405 --> 01:13:56,574 because it was right at the top of her career. 1259 01:13:58,117 --> 01:14:01,162 We went through a major lawsuit, and we settled 1260 01:14:02,079 --> 01:14:03,122 and she went on to be 1261 01:14:03,205 --> 01:14:05,499 the first artist signed to Geffen Records. 1262 01:14:08,794 --> 01:14:10,087 Come into the light a little bit, Donnie. 1263 01:14:16,010 --> 01:14:17,803 Well, this really isn't one of my better days. 1264 01:14:17,886 --> 01:14:19,513 - Yeah. - You could have filmed... 1265 01:14:19,596 --> 01:14:20,639 Can you get into right into the light? 1266 01:14:20,722 --> 01:14:21,765 Get your face right in the light. 1267 01:14:22,557 --> 01:14:23,600 I wanna see you. Get in the light. 1268 01:14:25,143 --> 01:14:27,604 - There we go. - You could have filmed... 1269 01:14:28,355 --> 01:14:30,190 Is my... is my face breaking out over here? 1270 01:14:30,315 --> 01:14:31,608 I don't know. I'm not looking that close. 1271 01:14:33,151 --> 01:14:34,819 - No go back, go back. - What's the matter? 1272 01:14:36,738 --> 01:14:39,699 - Look at 'em. Say, "Hi." Hi. - Hi. 1273 01:14:39,782 --> 01:14:40,825 Do Hard for the Money. 1274 01:14:42,744 --> 01:14:43,786 Sing it loud. 1275 01:14:44,454 --> 01:14:46,998 Hard for the money 1276 01:14:48,124 --> 01:14:50,835 - Good. - She works hard for the money 1277 01:14:52,169 --> 01:14:54,547 So hard for it, honey 1278 01:14:55,423 --> 01:14:57,383 I work hard for my money 1279 01:14:57,466 --> 01:15:00,010 So you better treat me right 1280 01:15:00,886 --> 01:15:01,929 All right 1281 01:15:02,388 --> 01:15:06,016 I work hard... for my money 1282 01:15:06,141 --> 01:15:09,228 Hard... for it, honey 1283 01:15:09,394 --> 01:15:10,812 Hard for my money 1284 01:15:10,896 --> 01:15:13,815 So you better treat me right 1285 01:15:14,441 --> 01:15:15,484 All right? 1286 01:15:15,692 --> 01:15:17,694 She works hard for the money 1287 01:15:18,987 --> 01:15:20,989 So hard for it, honey 1288 01:15:22,449 --> 01:15:24,325 She works hard for the money 1289 01:15:24,409 --> 01:15:26,953 So you better treat her right 1290 01:15:27,871 --> 01:15:29,205 She Works Hard for the Money 1291 01:15:29,289 --> 01:15:31,165 it comes along at the right time 1292 01:15:31,249 --> 01:15:32,291 for women. 1293 01:15:32,417 --> 01:15:34,794 It was kind of like a woman's empowerment song. 1294 01:15:35,378 --> 01:15:36,712 She was speaking to the worker. 1295 01:15:36,796 --> 01:15:39,924 She works hard for the money So you better treat her right 1296 01:15:40,007 --> 01:15:42,885 It was the night of the Grammys and we were in Los Angeles. 1297 01:15:42,968 --> 01:15:45,930 I was on my way into the ladies room with my manager. 1298 01:15:46,805 --> 01:15:49,266 As I walked in, there was this little lady sitting in the corner. 1299 01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:51,602 This sweet woman here was sound asleep. 1300 01:15:51,977 --> 01:15:53,562 Yeah, and I looked at her, and I thought to myself 1301 01:15:53,645 --> 01:15:56,023 "Wow, she works hard for the money." 1302 01:15:56,481 --> 01:15:59,443 And I thought it again to myself, "She works hard for the money." 1303 01:15:59,860 --> 01:16:01,903 And I thought, "She works hard for the money. 1304 01:16:02,154 --> 01:16:03,572 She works hard for the money." 1305 01:16:03,655 --> 01:16:06,658 And I thought, "Wow, that's it. That's a song, Susan. 1306 01:16:06,741 --> 01:16:07,784 I'm gonna sit down and write it." 1307 01:16:07,867 --> 01:16:09,160 So I went in the other room, and I sat right there 1308 01:16:09,244 --> 01:16:10,286 and I started writing it. 1309 01:16:10,412 --> 01:16:11,955 She didn't even know anything about it. 1310 01:16:12,247 --> 01:16:13,289 Not until much later. 1311 01:16:13,623 --> 01:16:15,083 - Right? - Right. That's true. 1312 01:16:15,291 --> 01:16:16,960 {\an5}I say it's wonderful, believe me. 1313 01:16:17,043 --> 01:16:18,628 {\an5}I think it's like a fairy tale to me. 1314 01:16:18,711 --> 01:16:20,421 {\an5}I can't believe it. I really can't. 1315 01:16:21,297 --> 01:16:24,175 - You seem very proud. - I am. I'm very proud. 1316 01:16:30,431 --> 01:16:32,933 She was the first female black artist 1317 01:16:33,017 --> 01:16:35,853 to ever have a video on MTV. 1318 01:16:38,230 --> 01:16:40,190 She works hard for the money 1319 01:16:41,692 --> 01:16:43,819 So hard for it, honey 1320 01:16:45,153 --> 01:16:47,155 She works hard for the money 1321 01:16:47,239 --> 01:16:48,990 So you better treat her right 1322 01:16:49,074 --> 01:16:50,242 When people come up to you 1323 01:16:50,826 --> 01:16:54,079 what song do they most identify you with? 1324 01:16:54,162 --> 01:16:55,747 Is it still Love to Love You Baby 1325 01:16:55,830 --> 01:16:57,457 in... in spite of everything you've done? 1326 01:16:58,041 --> 01:16:59,751 - Hard for the Money. - Hard for the Money? 1327 01:16:59,876 --> 01:17:00,919 The women. The women 1328 01:17:01,586 --> 01:17:02,629 That's right. 1329 01:17:07,842 --> 01:17:08,885 - The men... - And the men... 1330 01:17:09,635 --> 01:17:10,678 The men, yeah. 1331 01:17:10,970 --> 01:17:12,054 Love to Love You Baby, probably. 1332 01:17:12,138 --> 01:17:14,223 They go, "Oh, I just remember when you sang that song... 1333 01:17:14,348 --> 01:17:15,683 Ooh... What was it?" 1334 01:17:15,766 --> 01:17:17,643 You know, they start... their bodies start moving like this. 1335 01:17:17,727 --> 01:17:18,769 They go... 1336 01:17:22,731 --> 01:17:24,817 I've got to fan myself now. 1337 01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:33,951 My life just sort of started to quiet down. 1338 01:17:35,452 --> 01:17:38,789 One of the things that happened was that I... I married Bruce. 1339 01:17:40,665 --> 01:17:43,835 It was also this time when I started becoming the most spiritual. 1340 01:17:45,712 --> 01:17:47,714 I had to make a decision about being a mother 1341 01:17:47,797 --> 01:17:49,966 and how much a mother I was going to be. 1342 01:17:52,802 --> 01:17:53,845 There's just nothing in my life 1343 01:17:53,928 --> 01:17:55,680 that's worth more to me than my jewels. 1344 01:17:55,763 --> 01:17:56,889 My children are my jewels 1345 01:17:57,265 --> 01:17:59,225 and my husband and... my family. 1346 01:17:59,433 --> 01:18:02,853 I loved to perform, you know, and that's extremely important 1347 01:18:02,937 --> 01:18:05,398 but it doesn't bring me what they bring me. 1348 01:18:11,487 --> 01:18:14,114 The ranch was the dream childhood. 1349 01:18:17,159 --> 01:18:21,204 It was 56 acres of dirt roads 1350 01:18:21,288 --> 01:18:23,332 horses, and pigs, and cows. 1351 01:18:23,415 --> 01:18:26,126 It was full of imagination, and fun, and adventure. 1352 01:18:28,336 --> 01:18:30,463 It was kind of the best possible place to grow up. 1353 01:18:31,423 --> 01:18:32,465 Together 1354 01:18:33,383 --> 01:18:34,426 Together 1355 01:18:35,093 --> 01:18:36,136 Together 1356 01:18:36,761 --> 01:18:37,804 Together 1357 01:18:38,263 --> 01:18:41,307 I just remember, by the time I was born 1358 01:18:41,391 --> 01:18:44,727 that family was kind of the most important thing. 1359 01:18:46,187 --> 01:18:48,147 The fame was kind of like an offshoot. 1360 01:18:48,231 --> 01:18:49,273 Tonight 1361 01:18:49,357 --> 01:18:51,859 Walking in a winter wonderland 1362 01:18:52,109 --> 01:18:53,694 Gone away... 1363 01:18:53,819 --> 01:18:55,279 She was always performing. 1364 01:18:56,238 --> 01:18:58,949 She lived in an imaginary musical at all times. 1365 01:18:59,617 --> 01:19:03,078 We sing a love song as we go along 1366 01:19:03,537 --> 01:19:06,957 Walking in A winter wonderland 1367 01:19:07,249 --> 01:19:10,919 Walking in A winter wonderland 1368 01:19:11,003 --> 01:19:14,381 Winter wonder Winter wonderland 1369 01:19:14,798 --> 01:19:19,719 Winter wonder Wonder, wonderland 1370 01:19:26,643 --> 01:19:27,685 I like Bruce. 1371 01:19:27,852 --> 01:19:29,062 I like... liked him a lot. 1372 01:19:29,270 --> 01:19:30,438 When they got together 1373 01:19:30,521 --> 01:19:32,148 they wrote amazing music 1374 01:19:33,024 --> 01:19:34,942 and I felt like there was, like 1375 01:19:36,068 --> 01:19:38,654 this love connection that was deep. 1376 01:19:39,196 --> 01:19:42,283 But they were just... That was just a bumpy damn ride. 1377 01:19:42,658 --> 01:19:44,243 They were like oil and vinegar. 1378 01:19:45,536 --> 01:19:47,830 But they came together and made salad dressing. 1379 01:19:51,834 --> 01:19:54,711 My recollection of our relationship early on 1380 01:19:54,795 --> 01:19:56,380 was that it was volatile. 1381 01:19:58,006 --> 01:19:59,049 We were young. 1382 01:19:59,424 --> 01:20:02,385 We were both confident, and cocky, aggressive 1383 01:20:02,469 --> 01:20:05,013 a little stupid, passionate. 1384 01:20:06,306 --> 01:20:07,766 Coming from two different cultures 1385 01:20:07,849 --> 01:20:09,851 not understanding each other's cultures. 1386 01:20:12,896 --> 01:20:14,063 We were fire. 1387 01:20:15,231 --> 01:20:17,317 In public, screaming at each other 1388 01:20:17,525 --> 01:20:19,610 "You can't fucking talk to me like..." 1389 01:20:28,035 --> 01:20:29,745 I just remember that 1390 01:20:29,954 --> 01:20:32,414 they had a fight, and, like, throwing pots. 1391 01:20:32,957 --> 01:20:36,168 And at that point, Mom had already called the cops. 1392 01:20:36,460 --> 01:20:39,046 And we all went to my grandmother's house. 1393 01:20:48,013 --> 01:20:49,598 I remember wanting to, like... 1394 01:20:51,475 --> 01:20:53,602 run and protect her. 1395 01:20:55,228 --> 01:20:56,604 And I've done that before. 1396 01:21:01,442 --> 01:21:05,196 I was dealing with a lot of my own abuse. 1397 01:21:07,657 --> 01:21:09,909 We'd be at the house and stuff would happen there. 1398 01:21:09,992 --> 01:21:15,247 And it was someone related to our housekeeper at the ranch. 1399 01:21:18,042 --> 01:21:19,835 I would often be out in the fields 1400 01:21:19,919 --> 01:21:23,547 'cause I didn't wanna be any place that I could be trapped. 1401 01:21:27,718 --> 01:21:30,512 It was traumatic for me to leave my grandparents and go there 1402 01:21:30,596 --> 01:21:32,556 'cause I knew what might be in store. 1403 01:21:36,184 --> 01:21:38,228 It wasn't until I was 11 and a half, 12 1404 01:21:38,311 --> 01:21:41,481 when I finally sort of moved in full time. 1405 01:21:43,275 --> 01:21:44,317 And I'll have to be honest 1406 01:21:44,401 --> 01:21:47,070 the only reason I stayed was because of you guys. 1407 01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:48,905 I said, "I can't leave Brooklyn and Amanda." 1408 01:21:50,448 --> 01:21:51,491 I didn't know that, Mim. 1409 01:22:10,092 --> 01:22:14,680 I had a lot of pent-up anger and resentment. 1410 01:22:17,224 --> 01:22:19,685 I always had to be so careful because she's Donna Summer. 1411 01:22:19,768 --> 01:22:21,895 And what if I say something and then it gets out? 1412 01:22:25,982 --> 01:22:27,734 When I finally told Ma 1413 01:22:28,193 --> 01:22:30,028 I was 19, I think. 1414 01:22:30,570 --> 01:22:32,989 Mom, she hyperventilated. 1415 01:22:33,490 --> 01:22:34,532 Had to leave the room. 1416 01:22:38,912 --> 01:22:41,205 You know, in order for you to really communicate with somebody 1417 01:22:41,289 --> 01:22:42,582 and talk to them heart-to-heart 1418 01:22:42,999 --> 01:22:44,292 you have to really be vulnerable 1419 01:22:44,375 --> 01:22:47,170 and I think Mommy had a hard time being vulnerable. 1420 01:22:51,215 --> 01:22:54,051 It was a difficult thing for Mommy to deal with with Mimi 1421 01:22:54,135 --> 01:22:55,803 because of her own situation. 1422 01:22:56,178 --> 01:22:57,596 The sexual abuse 1423 01:22:58,180 --> 01:23:00,516 and her own, maybe, sense of failing. 1424 01:23:01,016 --> 01:23:03,143 I mean, I felt it. How could I... 1425 01:23:03,227 --> 01:23:06,021 How... how did I, as a dad, allow this to happen? 1426 01:23:08,523 --> 01:23:10,650 But I don't think you've ever said that to Mimi. 1427 01:23:12,694 --> 01:23:13,904 - Probably not. - Yeah. 1428 01:23:13,987 --> 01:23:15,030 - Yeah. Probably not. - Yeah. 1429 01:23:33,214 --> 01:23:34,257 These are all signed. 1430 01:23:38,344 --> 01:23:39,804 I always felt like when she was painting 1431 01:23:39,887 --> 01:23:42,306 she was, like, really in her space. 1432 01:23:43,182 --> 01:23:45,851 Whatever she was feeling that day would come out on the canvas 1433 01:23:45,935 --> 01:23:49,188 and really helped her to release a lot of whatever anxiety and tension 1434 01:23:49,271 --> 01:23:50,731 and whatever else that she was feeling. 1435 01:24:02,909 --> 01:24:04,494 I was inspired by my children. 1436 01:24:04,578 --> 01:24:05,996 There was color around me. 1437 01:24:06,371 --> 01:24:09,374 I started finding my way back to other creative aspects 1438 01:24:09,457 --> 01:24:10,542 of my own personality. 1439 01:24:10,667 --> 01:24:15,129 Someone found the letter You wrote me on the radio 1440 01:24:18,132 --> 01:24:21,761 And they told the world Just how you felt 1441 01:24:24,931 --> 01:24:30,728 It must have fallen out of a hole In your old, brown overcoat 1442 01:24:32,396 --> 01:24:37,401 They never said your name But I knew just who they meant 1443 01:24:37,484 --> 01:24:39,528 You know, when I go on stage, I don't go home with anything. 1444 01:24:40,028 --> 01:24:41,196 I go home empty-handed. 1445 01:24:41,780 --> 01:24:42,823 But when I paint 1446 01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:44,908 I have a tangible product 1447 01:24:44,992 --> 01:24:47,869 that's the direct result of my solo effort. 1448 01:24:48,870 --> 01:24:50,288 The agents aren't talking. 1449 01:24:50,372 --> 01:24:52,916 The record company isn't saying, "Hey, these songs suck." 1450 01:24:53,583 --> 01:24:56,252 So creatively, I am completely free to be myself. 1451 01:25:00,548 --> 01:25:02,342 When you first appeared in this country 1452 01:25:02,425 --> 01:25:05,511 many critics said "One song, she'll be gone soon." 1453 01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,222 And you have outlasted many of those critics. 1454 01:25:08,306 --> 01:25:09,557 How much satisfaction do you take 1455 01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,101 in having turned their predictions wrong? 1456 01:25:12,727 --> 01:25:14,270 Well, it's great to, you know 1457 01:25:14,687 --> 01:25:16,897 to succeed when others are not on your side. 1458 01:25:17,356 --> 01:25:19,233 It's even greater to know that God's on your side 1459 01:25:19,316 --> 01:25:20,943 and nobody can be against you when He is. 1460 01:25:21,026 --> 01:25:22,486 You know, I think that's what... 1461 01:25:22,569 --> 01:25:23,988 I've always been very strong in faith. 1462 01:25:24,071 --> 01:25:26,532 And, I mean, the possibilities of... 1463 01:25:27,032 --> 01:25:29,243 of a black girl from Boston going to Germany 1464 01:25:29,326 --> 01:25:32,204 becoming successful in the American pop field 1465 01:25:32,371 --> 01:25:34,539 is like a... a million to one shot. 1466 01:25:34,706 --> 01:25:38,126 The sun is shining 1467 01:25:38,585 --> 01:25:42,464 Oh, for me each day 1468 01:25:42,839 --> 01:25:46,801 'Cause I found the answer 1469 01:25:47,385 --> 01:25:51,055 And I learned 1470 01:25:51,556 --> 01:25:55,643 To 1471 01:25:56,060 --> 01:26:03,109 Pray 1472 01:26:04,443 --> 01:26:05,736 Let them like our performance, Lord. 1473 01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:07,446 Let them like our performance, Lord. 1474 01:26:07,530 --> 01:26:09,073 - Thank you, Jesus. - Thank you, Jesus. Thank you. 1475 01:26:09,156 --> 01:26:10,741 Oh, God, in Jesus' name, praise You. 1476 01:26:11,575 --> 01:26:12,618 Amen! 1477 01:26:13,660 --> 01:26:14,953 How did you become a Christian? 1478 01:26:15,037 --> 01:26:17,080 How did... how did it happen? 1479 01:26:17,581 --> 01:26:18,624 How did it happen? 1480 01:26:18,874 --> 01:26:21,376 - It happened one day. - It kinda happened... 1481 01:26:21,460 --> 01:26:22,502 It happens, yeah. 1482 01:26:22,586 --> 01:26:25,547 You know what? I think people get to a place in their lives where 1483 01:26:26,298 --> 01:26:28,425 well, especially when you are successful 1484 01:26:28,633 --> 01:26:30,552 and you've... and you've reached your goals 1485 01:26:30,969 --> 01:26:32,804 and you realize that... that there's nothing there. 1486 01:26:33,138 --> 01:26:34,180 It's empty. 1487 01:26:34,264 --> 01:26:36,808 It's the same old room. It could be anywhere in the world. 1488 01:26:37,183 --> 01:26:40,311 It could be with anyone in the world. It could be the same meal. 1489 01:26:40,395 --> 01:26:41,729 It can be the same million cults. 1490 01:26:41,979 --> 01:26:43,356 It could be a million diamond rings. 1491 01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:44,649 It doesn't mean anything. 1492 01:26:45,024 --> 01:26:46,817 You know, you get to a point where you realize that 1493 01:26:48,819 --> 01:26:50,029 "What happens after this?" 1494 01:26:53,699 --> 01:26:54,742 The born again. 1495 01:26:55,993 --> 01:26:59,288 As extreme as I might have been thinking 1496 01:26:59,371 --> 01:27:00,789 at the time that it was 1497 01:27:01,749 --> 01:27:03,876 it benefited Donna. 1498 01:27:06,211 --> 01:27:10,007 That little church girl was foundational to who she was. 1499 01:27:11,716 --> 01:27:15,345 All these things that she had been carrying 1500 01:27:15,637 --> 01:27:18,181 from being abused by a pastor when you were a young girl. 1501 01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:22,143 This struggle of... of God, and man, and sex. 1502 01:27:23,394 --> 01:27:27,982 Religion and spirituality brought her a great amount of peace. 1503 01:27:31,486 --> 01:27:32,528 In the last few years 1504 01:27:33,446 --> 01:27:36,490 my life has changed, drastically. 1505 01:27:39,118 --> 01:27:42,496 It has changed in a way that I would like to share with you. 1506 01:27:43,414 --> 01:27:46,292 See, about three years ago, I gave my life to Jesus Christ. 1507 01:27:49,336 --> 01:27:51,004 And, no... 1508 01:27:51,547 --> 01:27:53,090 I'm not ashamed to tell it. 1509 01:27:55,676 --> 01:27:59,679 Every day 1510 01:28:02,807 --> 01:28:07,103 I give you a reason to cry 1511 01:28:09,355 --> 01:28:13,860 'Cause I see the hurt in your eyes 1512 01:28:15,445 --> 01:28:17,572 But stronger yet 1513 01:28:17,780 --> 01:28:23,077 I see the love that shines 1514 01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:24,203 Brooklyn, you know Mommy. 1515 01:28:24,745 --> 01:28:26,288 Whenever she got into anything 1516 01:28:26,580 --> 01:28:28,165 it was a hundred and ten percent. 1517 01:28:28,707 --> 01:28:31,627 And then, she would wanna share it with everybody. 1518 01:28:33,629 --> 01:28:35,255 Not everybody wanted to hear a sermon. 1519 01:28:35,339 --> 01:28:37,049 Not everybody wanted to be preached to. 1520 01:28:37,257 --> 01:28:38,884 People wanted to dance at a party. 1521 01:28:56,192 --> 01:28:57,235 Yeah! 1522 01:28:57,694 --> 01:28:58,736 All right! 1523 01:29:02,448 --> 01:29:04,283 "Where's that girl? Where's that girl, huh? 1524 01:29:05,118 --> 01:29:06,744 I paid $12 for this ticket 1525 01:29:06,828 --> 01:29:08,454 and I want her to work for it," right? 1526 01:29:11,916 --> 01:29:15,294 Don't you realize that I had two children in two years? 1527 01:29:16,712 --> 01:29:18,214 I work so hard. 1528 01:29:19,506 --> 01:29:21,342 Donna had very loose parameters 1529 01:29:21,425 --> 01:29:23,802 of a script of how her show was gonna go. 1530 01:29:24,428 --> 01:29:27,139 There were certain pattern that she knew worked 1531 01:29:27,222 --> 01:29:29,057 that she would use night after night 1532 01:29:29,474 --> 01:29:31,810 but she was also spontaneous in the moment. 1533 01:29:33,562 --> 01:29:36,356 - Woman - Woman 1534 01:29:36,565 --> 01:29:37,732 Treat that man real good 1535 01:29:37,816 --> 01:29:40,402 She could make a comment about something in the news 1536 01:29:40,694 --> 01:29:43,113 the color of the shirt of the guy in the front row. 1537 01:29:44,072 --> 01:29:45,573 But now she says this thing 1538 01:29:46,241 --> 01:29:47,992 "God didn't make Adam and Steve. 1539 01:29:48,076 --> 01:29:49,369 He made Adam and Eve." 1540 01:29:49,452 --> 01:29:51,245 - God, he made the woman - Yes, indeed 1541 01:29:51,329 --> 01:29:52,955 God, he made the man 1542 01:29:53,122 --> 01:29:55,750 And this was a comment that was devastating 1543 01:29:55,833 --> 01:29:57,251 to many in the gay community. 1544 01:30:01,547 --> 01:30:02,882 The "Adam and Steve" thing 1545 01:30:03,007 --> 01:30:04,216 I find it insulting. 1546 01:30:04,550 --> 01:30:07,136 It was like I couldn't believe that she would have said that. 1547 01:30:11,765 --> 01:30:14,184 For me, the relationship that I had with your mom 1548 01:30:14,476 --> 01:30:15,853 was really through her music. 1549 01:30:16,478 --> 01:30:18,063 The songs that we all came out to. 1550 01:30:18,397 --> 01:30:19,648 And as a gay man 1551 01:30:20,440 --> 01:30:21,525 it rubbed me the wrong way. 1552 01:30:21,608 --> 01:30:23,318 And I thought, "I don't need to support this anymore." 1553 01:30:28,365 --> 01:30:29,866 A lot of gay people already feel 1554 01:30:29,949 --> 01:30:31,159 like the church hates them. 1555 01:30:33,161 --> 01:30:35,663 And so what happened was there was another mindset of 1556 01:30:35,747 --> 01:30:38,583 "Oh, she became one of those... those people who hate us." 1557 01:30:40,168 --> 01:30:42,628 Their perception of what they thought she meant. 1558 01:30:42,795 --> 01:30:45,339 It was like, "You shouldn't exist." 1559 01:30:48,759 --> 01:30:51,095 At some point, I think we made a wrong decision 1560 01:30:51,387 --> 01:30:53,597 and that decision was not to respond. 1561 01:30:54,181 --> 01:30:56,058 We kinda figured, "Oh, it'll go away." 1562 01:30:57,851 --> 01:30:59,395 But it didn't go away, and... 1563 01:30:59,478 --> 01:31:00,813 and we had to pay that price. 1564 01:31:00,896 --> 01:31:04,399 And... and it was... it was a big price to pay. 1565 01:31:06,693 --> 01:31:08,487 What's happened with this comment? 1566 01:31:09,529 --> 01:31:12,782 Well, at some point, it went from this comment 1567 01:31:13,867 --> 01:31:15,994 into Mommy supposedly saying 1568 01:31:16,077 --> 01:31:19,372 that AIDS was God's punishment on gays 1569 01:31:19,789 --> 01:31:21,291 and that just was never the case. 1570 01:31:22,417 --> 01:31:24,210 Educate, don't speculate 1571 01:31:24,502 --> 01:31:26,587 - AIDS - Be safe. Fight now 1572 01:31:26,754 --> 01:31:29,298 AIDS, educate, don't speculate 1573 01:31:29,507 --> 01:31:31,551 - AIDS - Be safe. Fight now 1574 01:31:35,179 --> 01:31:36,389 I remember a situation 1575 01:31:36,472 --> 01:31:37,556 that she was doing 1576 01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:38,766 an art event in Chicago. 1577 01:31:39,183 --> 01:31:41,018 We're here. We're queer. 1578 01:31:41,477 --> 01:31:42,520 The ACT UP people 1579 01:31:42,603 --> 01:31:45,064 their intent was to go in and destroy all the art exhibit. 1580 01:31:45,981 --> 01:31:47,441 And ACT UP was adamant about saying 1581 01:31:47,524 --> 01:31:49,860 "Well, listen. This is a person that we loved 1582 01:31:49,943 --> 01:31:52,112 and adored, and supported 1583 01:31:52,654 --> 01:31:54,531 and she turned her back on us." 1584 01:31:58,034 --> 01:32:01,079 I remember people were canceling shows. 1585 01:32:01,454 --> 01:32:03,248 It was definitely a strain on her. 1586 01:32:03,623 --> 01:32:07,210 It was a time when I think she really had to learn to rely on faith. 1587 01:32:08,586 --> 01:32:09,629 That hurt her the most 1588 01:32:09,712 --> 01:32:10,755 because she felt like 1589 01:32:10,922 --> 01:32:12,173 "They're gonna think I really said 1590 01:32:12,257 --> 01:32:13,299 those things. 1591 01:32:13,675 --> 01:32:16,010 They're gonna think I feel that way about them, and I don't." 1592 01:32:23,476 --> 01:32:26,604 The magazine stated that I said homosexuals were sinners 1593 01:32:27,021 --> 01:32:28,564 and AIDS was a divine ruling. 1594 01:32:29,732 --> 01:32:31,025 That is completely false. 1595 01:32:32,568 --> 01:32:35,195 I did not say it. I do not believe that. 1596 01:32:36,989 --> 01:32:40,367 I would never say the things attributed to me in that article. 1597 01:32:42,619 --> 01:32:44,162 These were people that she loved. 1598 01:32:45,414 --> 01:32:49,167 And for her to be viewed as somebody who would cause them more pain 1599 01:32:50,835 --> 01:32:53,630 It's something I... I don't think she ever got over. 1600 01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:23,492 Do you feel that Mom came to terms with her life? 1601 01:33:25,661 --> 01:33:28,205 The struggles, the fear, the insecurity? 1602 01:33:31,458 --> 01:33:33,126 I don't know if she came to terms fully. 1603 01:33:33,794 --> 01:33:35,712 I mean, I think she was getting better. 1604 01:33:36,338 --> 01:33:38,173 When you're holding a mirror up to yourself 1605 01:33:38,256 --> 01:33:40,675 and you're getting to see all these avenues 1606 01:33:40,759 --> 01:33:42,343 of like an extension of yourself. 1607 01:33:43,261 --> 01:33:45,680 Your children kind of growing and flourishing 1608 01:33:45,763 --> 01:33:47,891 - that brings something out of you - Hey, guys, how you doing? 1609 01:33:47,974 --> 01:33:51,019 and it makes you have to address certain things. 1610 01:33:51,102 --> 01:33:52,562 So I think she was getting there. 1611 01:33:52,645 --> 01:33:54,856 I think she was working through certain things. 1612 01:34:03,656 --> 01:34:06,283 Yeah, baby... 1613 01:34:07,701 --> 01:34:09,286 I can see the shape of the world 1614 01:34:11,914 --> 01:34:12,956 Planet Earth below 1615 01:34:13,499 --> 01:34:14,583 To be honest with you 1616 01:34:14,666 --> 01:34:17,878 the fact that she got lung cancer was very interesting to me. 1617 01:34:20,088 --> 01:34:23,049 For someone who fully used their voice in so many ways 1618 01:34:23,133 --> 01:34:25,385 to not fully use their voice in other ways 1619 01:34:25,552 --> 01:34:28,346 she carried so much for so long 1620 01:34:28,722 --> 01:34:31,808 that her body couldn't do it anymore. 1621 01:34:31,891 --> 01:34:36,854 Thousands of miles away From who knows where 1622 01:34:37,146 --> 01:34:39,440 Who knows where... 1623 01:34:43,945 --> 01:34:48,908 There was a certain amount, of not denial, but non-acceptance. 1624 01:34:50,242 --> 01:34:53,078 Donna never talked about her dying 1625 01:34:53,621 --> 01:34:55,497 or what would happen if she died. 1626 01:34:56,415 --> 01:34:57,958 Or that she was gonna die. 1627 01:34:58,417 --> 01:34:59,835 We never had that conversation. 1628 01:35:00,294 --> 01:35:01,920 We never spoke those words. 1629 01:35:03,922 --> 01:35:06,049 The fact that we didn't discuss it 1630 01:35:07,592 --> 01:35:12,681 did not make the obvious nature of what was happening invisible. 1631 01:35:14,266 --> 01:35:17,018 She didn't want to give death power 1632 01:35:17,102 --> 01:35:19,229 by even speaking about it or mentioning it. 1633 01:35:21,564 --> 01:35:23,858 Daddy, what... what day is today? 1634 01:35:24,442 --> 01:35:27,570 Today is December 25th, 2011 1635 01:35:28,362 --> 01:35:31,282 heading into a much sunnier year of 2012. 1636 01:35:31,365 --> 01:35:32,533 - Yup, amen. - Amen. 1637 01:35:32,617 --> 01:35:34,619 - Hallelujah. - Amen, hallelujah. 1638 01:35:35,036 --> 01:35:38,706 - Mommy! Merry Christmas. - Merry Christmas. 1639 01:35:54,179 --> 01:35:56,348 Is there a remedy 1640 01:35:57,682 --> 01:36:00,060 For the passions of the soul 1641 01:36:01,895 --> 01:36:04,439 Brother, if there is one 1642 01:36:05,523 --> 01:36:07,317 I don't really know. 1643 01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:11,362 May... may I say 1644 01:36:11,446 --> 01:36:12,530 I... I wanna get mushy 1645 01:36:12,614 --> 01:36:13,656 because I... I realized something. 1646 01:36:13,740 --> 01:36:14,907 I've been in therapy, you know. 1647 01:36:15,116 --> 01:36:16,742 For all the six months... No, seriously. 1648 01:36:16,826 --> 01:36:18,703 - I can relate. - I really like making jokes 1649 01:36:18,786 --> 01:36:21,580 about things, and not confronting the issue. 1650 01:36:21,998 --> 01:36:25,126 And so tonight, I would not like to make a joke of anything. 1651 01:36:25,209 --> 01:36:26,293 I would like to confront the issue 1652 01:36:26,377 --> 01:36:28,963 and say that I... I do dearly love everybody here. 1653 01:36:29,296 --> 01:36:32,925 And regardless to the changes that we have gone through in this life 1654 01:36:33,300 --> 01:36:34,343 I know... 1655 01:36:34,551 --> 01:36:36,053 Hallelujah, don't let me start preaching... 1656 01:36:36,512 --> 01:36:37,554 that... 1657 01:36:39,348 --> 01:36:40,891 we're all together for a reason. 1658 01:36:41,016 --> 01:36:42,184 - Amen. - Amen. 1659 01:36:42,267 --> 01:36:43,435 - Amen. - And I do hope that... 1660 01:36:44,144 --> 01:36:46,646 that I was able to bring something to your life 1661 01:36:47,063 --> 01:36:48,815 and get something from your life 1662 01:36:49,357 --> 01:36:50,942 - that is irreplaceable. - Amen. 1663 01:36:51,192 --> 01:36:52,235 Oh, Lord! 1664 01:37:02,537 --> 01:37:03,955 Mommy, I love you. 1665 01:37:04,914 --> 01:37:07,250 I'm gonna see you soon. 1666 01:37:08,042 --> 01:37:10,544 And I'm gonna perform for you. 1667 01:37:10,961 --> 01:37:13,506 Watching raindrops 1668 01:37:13,714 --> 01:37:16,383 Slowly falling 1669 01:37:16,634 --> 01:37:19,261 Painting pictures 1670 01:37:19,345 --> 01:37:23,015 On the window pane 1671 01:37:23,307 --> 01:37:25,893 Feelings my heart cannot... 1672 01:37:25,976 --> 01:37:27,269 There were times in the middle of the night 1673 01:37:27,352 --> 01:37:28,395 when she would say stuff. 1674 01:37:29,771 --> 01:37:32,524 She would say, "I don't like to be alone, Mimi." 1675 01:37:39,531 --> 01:37:41,950 When she woke up one night, she was really having a hard night. 1676 01:37:43,284 --> 01:37:44,327 I said, "Ma, what's the matter?" 1677 01:37:44,494 --> 01:37:47,372 And she's like, "I just..." And she's like, "I can't sleep. 1678 01:37:47,455 --> 01:37:49,082 I'm just so... I can't settle down." 1679 01:37:50,083 --> 01:37:51,459 I started to rub her back. 1680 01:37:52,335 --> 01:37:54,128 She was pretty tiny at that point. 1681 01:37:56,380 --> 01:37:59,300 I put my arm across her chest, and she fell asleep. 1682 01:38:00,301 --> 01:38:02,803 So I scooped her up onto my lap 1683 01:38:03,762 --> 01:38:05,890 and I just kept rubbing her back. 1684 01:38:06,890 --> 01:38:08,517 That moment for me was like... 1685 01:38:09,810 --> 01:38:10,853 She was a baby. 1686 01:38:12,062 --> 01:38:13,313 It was like she just was 1687 01:38:13,397 --> 01:38:14,690 fully vulnerable, like 1688 01:38:14,773 --> 01:38:15,816 "Just hold me." 1689 01:38:21,863 --> 01:38:26,159 I think the most profound thing is her allowing us to love her. 1690 01:38:27,494 --> 01:38:28,536 Yes. 1691 01:38:28,745 --> 01:38:31,039 Because in that moment, she couldn't give us anything. 1692 01:38:31,581 --> 01:38:33,666 No, she had to only receive. 1693 01:38:33,750 --> 01:38:35,043 She could only receive. 1694 01:38:37,462 --> 01:38:41,340 It wasn't until she was on her deathbed 1695 01:38:42,216 --> 01:38:46,470 that she finally understood that I really loved her. 1696 01:38:47,888 --> 01:38:48,931 She looks at me 1697 01:38:49,306 --> 01:38:51,517 and she says, "You are my heart." 1698 01:39:00,567 --> 01:39:01,610 All right, well... 1699 01:39:08,950 --> 01:39:14,205 If there is music there 1700 01:39:16,332 --> 01:39:19,961 I'll have to go 1701 01:39:23,506 --> 01:39:29,887 Never been anything in my life 1702 01:39:29,971 --> 01:39:36,018 That I wanted more 1703 01:39:37,103 --> 01:39:43,442 This is my greatest fear 1704 01:39:44,568 --> 01:39:50,699 That I'm losing you my dear 1705 01:39:51,825 --> 01:39:58,165 It's more than I want to give 1706 01:39:59,583 --> 01:40:04,879 But if there is music there 1707 01:40:07,090 --> 01:40:12,220 If there is music there 1708 01:40:14,097 --> 01:40:18,184 I have to know 1709 01:40:21,020 --> 01:40:24,857 Never met anyone 1710 01:40:24,940 --> 01:40:27,401 Who could take music 1711 01:40:27,735 --> 01:40:33,282 Out of my soul 1712 01:40:34,199 --> 01:40:40,580 There's something deep inside 1713 01:40:41,331 --> 01:40:47,504 That I no longer want to hide 1714 01:40:48,380 --> 01:40:54,302 My love you would never share 1715 01:40:55,970 --> 01:41:01,934 If there is music there 1716 01:41:03,269 --> 01:41:04,479 I'm so sorry honey. 1717 01:41:05,146 --> 01:41:09,608 - I'm losing you - See, I... I always... I loved you. 1718 01:41:10,651 --> 01:41:11,694 I did love you 1719 01:41:12,236 --> 01:41:20,536 - I'm losing you - but I just have to go. 1720 01:41:42,682 --> 01:41:44,434 Sunset People, take two. 1721 01:41:59,907 --> 01:42:01,700 For sunset 1722 01:42:03,577 --> 01:42:04,620 Riot house 1723 01:42:05,162 --> 01:42:06,914 Now what camera? Should I just face forward? 1724 01:42:07,289 --> 01:42:09,374 Yes, face forward. Rewind her. 1725 01:42:10,209 --> 01:42:12,252 It's too much light. You're bleaching away my color. 1726 01:42:14,755 --> 01:42:15,797 Fix it in the mix. 1727 01:42:18,258 --> 01:42:20,051 You've never had your hair done by a sailor before, huh? 1728 01:42:22,053 --> 01:42:23,096 Yes. 1729 01:42:28,101 --> 01:42:30,645 - Excuse me. - One, two, three, four. 1730 01:42:32,814 --> 01:42:35,400 Who are these places? 1731 01:42:35,984 --> 01:42:38,778 What are these faces? 1732 01:42:44,450 --> 01:42:46,327 Yes, I'm giving up all your love for me. 1733 01:42:52,750 --> 01:42:53,792 Don't let it throw you. 1734 01:42:54,126 --> 01:42:55,169 Come on. Let me show. 1735 01:42:55,836 --> 01:42:58,005 What are these places? Whose are these faces? 1736 01:43:08,458 --> 01:43:16,799 Translator: IYUNO 132444

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