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[electronic music]
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♪ MTV ♪
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[rain pattering]
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[Eminem's "Stan"]
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♪ ♪
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A lot of people ask me...
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♪
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Why did you write
the song "Stan?"
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Is "Stan" based on a real fan?
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Why do you share so much
about yourself in your music?
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What the hell goes
on in your brain?
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Are you happy?
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How's your daughter?
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Who is someone that
helped you the same way
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that you helped me?
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Do you feel like the
impact you've had
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is what you hoped it would be?
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What's it like being famous?
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How much fan mail do you get?
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How does it feel to be
followed by so many people?
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Have you read my letter?
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♪ ♪
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Is everyone ready?
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All right, Marshall, take one.
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What's your first question?
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[Eminem's "Bad Guy"]
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♪ ♪
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♪ Time you can see the truth ♪
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♪ But it's easier to justify ♪
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♪ What's bad is good ♪
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♪ And I hate to be the bad guy ♪
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[upbeat music]
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♪ I just hate to
be the bad guy ♪
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♪ ♪
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♪ I just hate to
be the bad guy ♪
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♪ And I hate to be the bad guy ♪
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Hi, my name is chick
a-chick a Slim...
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[laughs] I wanted
to say Zolt Shady.
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Hi, my name is chick
a-chick a-chick a
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Zolt Shady.
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Hi, my name is Alex.
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Hi, my name is Daniyela.
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Hi, my name is Giovanni.
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Hi, my name is Brooklyn.
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Hi, my name is James.
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Hi, my name is Kyle.
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Hi. "My Name Is."
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-Well, no, you...
-[laughs]
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I'm s... I thought you
mean it like the song.
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[laughs] Hi, my name is Nikki.
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Let me just put my cape on.
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I don't even know what
these look like on.
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[laughs] Too much?
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[laughs] It's called the Eminem.
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Um, it's based off...
in his music video
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"Without Me."
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Um, although I did leave
my plastic ass at home,
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but this is my costume.
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[laughs] This is art.
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[laughs] This is crazy.
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Early Eminem, Slim Shady.
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This is the type of
mask that he always wore
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in every concert, early 2000s,
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everything like that.
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How and why does a white
T-shirt become iconic?
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Because, uh, there's a
Slim Shady in all of us.
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When he wears that shirt,
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and when I wear
that shirt as well,
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it symbolizes unity.
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They, um, have an Eminem
subreddit, r/eminem,
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and I enjoy being there.
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It's actually, uh,
where I found my people.
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So I follow him on
all social medias.
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Every social media that
he has, that I have,
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I will follow him on.
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I, like, followed him every...
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not followed him
everywhere, 'cause that
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sounds weird and
creepy. [laughs]
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You should see what
my explore page
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on Instagram looks like.
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Eminem, Eminem, cute puppies,
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Eminem, Eminem, horror movies,
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Eminem, Eminem, hairstyles.
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Stuff like that.
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I wake up every morning,
and it is a habit.
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It's a ritualistic routine.
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I think I do have an
addiction to Eminem.
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Occasionally, like,
I'll go into, like,
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a YouTube, like,
rabbit hole where
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I'll, like, watch
old performances
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or music videos or interviews.
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And, like, what people
could say in interviews
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25 years ago versus what
they could say now, like,
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half the shit he
said was insane.
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[hip-hop music]
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All right, y'all.
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Back here live on
the "Rap City" thing.
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I'm looking for my man.
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My man is not...
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Ow!
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Ow!
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[sped-up speech]
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Yo, cut the cameras, man.
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Come on, dog.
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Come on. Come on.
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-You all right?
-Hey!
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-One...
-Ladies and gentlemen...
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And a-two, and a-three...
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Insane.
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This guy's insane.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
introducing Eminem.
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[imitates cheering crowd]
Y'all give it up for Eminem.
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[imitates cheering crowd]
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-What's up, dog?
-What's up, man?
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How you doing?
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That right there, it
brought me back so much.
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Just the energy that he
came in when he was onscreen
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was a different type of energy.
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[dramatic music]
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This is an artist called Eminem.
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It's spelled funky.
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If you're going to pronounce it,
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it's like the candy. Eminem.
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I'm keeping it gangster, homie.
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I'm keeping it gangster.
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I am flexing my bum-bum.
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[laughter]
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There was a shock factor
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when I was first
discovering Eminem.
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Here's Eminem doing one of
the best Michael Jackson
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impersonations I've ever seen.
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He was definitely
a loose cannon.
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Mom!
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No, yes, you did molest me.
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This dude, he's got a
good sense of humor,
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and he's willing to
express his art, you know,
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with no boundaries.
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I was 10 years old sitting
at home watching MTV
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in hopes to see
the Backstreet Boys
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or NSYNC come on,
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but it was Marshall Mathers.
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Slim Shady came on
with "My Name Is,"
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and my whole life
changed after that.
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[Eminem's "My Name Is"]
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♪ Hi, my name is, what ♪
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♪ My name is, who ♪
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♪ My name is chick
a-chick a Slim Shady ♪
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♪ Hi, my name is, huh ♪
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♪ My name is ♪
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I was coming home from
the police academy,
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and I hear, "Hi, my name is."
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And I was like, what is this?
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And so I listened to
it all the way home.
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It's not like anything
else I've heard before.
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I'm in.
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♪ Chicka-chick a Slim Shady ♪
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♪ Hi, kids, do you like Primus ♪
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♪ Wanna see me stick
nine-inch nails ♪
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♪ Through each one
of my eyelids ♪
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You want to copy me and
do exactly what I did?
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Try 'cid and get fucked
up worse than my life is?
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I was like, what? Yeah!
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Sign me up.
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I'll do it. [laughs]
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♪ My brain's dead weight ♪
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♪ I'm trying to get
my head straight ♪
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♪ But I can't figure
out which Spice Girl ♪
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♪ I want to impregnate ♪
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Most of these rappers back then,
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they want to portray this,
I'm from the streets,
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I'm a thug, I'm this,
don't fuck with me.
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He's just being him.
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He's just having a grand time.
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♪ Hi, my name is, what ♪
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♪ My name is, who ♪
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♪ My name is chick
a-chick a Slim Shady ♪
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Nobody was making those
type of music videos.
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Most people were like,
half-naked, dancing,
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doing, like, these big numbers.
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And he had, like, storylines.
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♪ 99% of my life,
I was lied to ♪
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♪ I just found out my mom
does more dope than I do ♪
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When he started going at
these pop culture people,
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making fun of them to the T,
I'm just like, oh, my God,
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dude, this guy really
doesn't give a fuck.
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I was, like, hypnotized.
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Like, my eyes were, like,
glued to the screen,
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and that kick started
my obsession with him.
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We be live in Times Square,
"Total Request Live,"
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with the big videos,
the most requested ones.
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How about a round of
applause for Eminem?
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Hi.
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Making his...
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"TRL" at the time was new.
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It was always our
intent to have it be
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an exact reflection
of our audience.
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It was like, what if we gave
one hour of this network
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to the fans?
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And let's ask them
what they want.
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Let's take their requests.
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I was a radio guy,
and we did a lot
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of, like, requests in radio.
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Who did you want to see?
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Congratulations.
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"Slim Shady" is going to
number two next week...
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-Thank you.
-On the charts.
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Thank you.
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That deserves a round
of applause right there.
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With a little... little
bit of help from MTV.
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I've seen fans.
I've seen it all.
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I've never seen anything like
Marshall, Eminem fans, ever.
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My name is!
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How they show up,
what they look like,
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the connection that they
have with this artist,
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it's really deep.
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The reason why we're here today
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is because of his
creation of "Stan."
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He created a culture that is
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so out of the boundary
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of regular pop culture
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that he made his own term.
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Anything I can grab
on Eminem, I'll find.
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Over a thousand interviews
I've watched, rewatched.
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He was the first one where
I was like, you know what?
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I could marry this guy. [laughs]
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I would say that I'm a Stan.
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I know three albums
back to back lyrically,
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every single word
of... of everything.
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I remember being him for
the talent show when I was
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11 and dressing
up, white T-shirt.
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I sprayed my hair yellow.
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When I was five my brother
exposed me to his songs,
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and I kept listening
to it over and over,
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and all my friends
were like, oh, my God.
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Like, girl, you
need to calm down.
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I have a book, a specific
book that I made.
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When I see Eminem,
[clicks tongue]
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I put it in the book.
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There was a point in time
where every single magazine
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cover you looked at or saw,
no matter where you were,
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Marshall was on the cover.
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[dramatic music]
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♪ ♪
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For so many people
admiring you that much
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and having such a
strong reaction to you,
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it must have been, like,
a high or something.
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And the winner is
Eminem, "My Name Is."
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I want to thank all the fans
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that made "Slim Shady" possible.
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All of a sudden, you're
skyrocketed into fame,
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and it's everything
you've ever wanted,
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everything you ever dreamed of.
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I can't even imagine that.
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Has it ever felt normal
in any sense of that word?
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Well, none of this is normal.
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None of it's normal.
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Once the "Hi, My Name Is" video,
258
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once MTV accepted
that and played it,
259
00:11:02,689 --> 00:11:05,655
it was like a fucking
switch went off overnight.
260
00:11:05,793 --> 00:11:08,434
And all of a sudden, I woke
up the next day from that,
261
00:11:08,517 --> 00:11:12,482
and my entire life
was changed forever.
262
00:11:12,620 --> 00:11:15,310
Um, uh, we're gonna go
to, uh, my old house,
263
00:11:15,413 --> 00:11:16,468
and I'm going to
knock on the door
264
00:11:16,551 --> 00:11:17,572
and see if I can get in
265
00:11:17,655 --> 00:11:19,689
'cause I left
something in my room.
266
00:11:19,793 --> 00:11:21,137
This is the house.
267
00:11:21,275 --> 00:11:22,917
See back there, that
used to be a garage.
268
00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,517
One of my longtime
friends, Deshaun Holton.
269
00:11:25,620 --> 00:11:27,137
He's a rapper too.
His name is Proof.
270
00:11:27,275 --> 00:11:28,985
He used to take me up in
the lunchroom at Osborn.
271
00:11:29,068 --> 00:11:30,448
What's up, dog?
272
00:11:30,551 --> 00:11:32,744
I used to battle, like, a
lot of kids in the school.
273
00:11:32,827 --> 00:11:34,882
Proof was Eminem's best friend.
274
00:11:34,965 --> 00:11:37,227
He was there from the beginning.
275
00:11:37,310 --> 00:11:39,275
Proof gave him a lot
of the confidence
276
00:11:39,379 --> 00:11:40,517
and a lot of courage.
277
00:11:40,655 --> 00:11:41,572
The illest story
is we used to do
278
00:11:41,655 --> 00:11:43,054
the "White Men
Can't Jump" thing.
279
00:11:43,137 --> 00:11:44,482
I used to go in to sneak him...
280
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I used to sneak him into Osborn,
281
00:11:46,068 --> 00:11:47,710
and everybody would be
like, I'll battle you, man.
282
00:11:47,793 --> 00:11:48,793
I'll battle.
283
00:11:48,931 --> 00:11:50,917
I'm like, you ain't
can't battle me.
284
00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,448
Why don't you battle him?
285
00:11:52,551 --> 00:11:54,137
And they'd be like,
oh, the white boy?
286
00:11:54,241 --> 00:11:56,275
[laughs] I'ma kill him!
287
00:11:56,379 --> 00:11:57,551
I'ma kill him!
288
00:11:57,655 --> 00:11:58,985
Then he'd come out
busting a rhyme...
289
00:11:59,068 --> 00:12:00,896
[trilling tongue]
290
00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,123
Everybody and they
friends like...
291
00:12:02,206 --> 00:12:03,468
[laughs]
292
00:12:03,551 --> 00:12:05,931
One of the reasons I
love Eminem's story
293
00:12:06,034 --> 00:12:09,724
is because he didn't set
out to become famous.
294
00:12:09,862 --> 00:12:12,158
He loves his art. He
loves what he does.
295
00:12:12,241 --> 00:12:13,813
Hello, I'm Slim Shady.
296
00:12:13,896 --> 00:12:16,296
I don't think he
ever could have seen
297
00:12:16,379 --> 00:12:19,000
where it would have gone to.
298
00:12:19,103 --> 00:12:21,296
I cut class... don't
tell my mother...
299
00:12:21,379 --> 00:12:22,813
and... [laughs]
300
00:12:22,896 --> 00:12:24,724
And we were sitting
in my boy's house,
301
00:12:24,827 --> 00:12:28,862
and we had MTV playing,
and my boys were just like,
302
00:12:28,965 --> 00:12:30,517
oh, just another white rapper.
303
00:12:30,620 --> 00:12:32,434
And I was like, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no.
304
00:12:32,517 --> 00:12:35,068
I've never heard anybody
do it like he did it.
305
00:12:35,206 --> 00:12:36,882
And that's when I started
going down that wormhole.
306
00:12:36,965 --> 00:12:38,517
[dial-up modem beeping]
307
00:12:38,620 --> 00:12:40,241
Where did he come from?
308
00:12:40,344 --> 00:12:42,827
Where was his origin story?
309
00:12:42,931 --> 00:12:44,379
♪ Bus it, what? ♪
310
00:12:44,482 --> 00:12:46,896
♪ It's only fair to warn I
was born with a set of horns ♪
311
00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,551
♪ And metaphors attached
to my dang umbilical cord ♪
312
00:12:49,689 --> 00:12:52,503
♪ Warlord of rap that'll
bash you with a 2x4 board ♪
313
00:12:52,586 --> 00:12:55,379
♪ And smash into your Honda
Accord with a four-door Ford ♪
314
00:12:55,482 --> 00:12:57,758
[laughter]
315
00:13:00,241 --> 00:13:03,399
♪ Look, any rapper saying
those kind of rhymes ♪
316
00:13:03,482 --> 00:13:05,965
♪ In this day and age,
in this period of time ♪
317
00:13:06,068 --> 00:13:08,448
♪ Trying to battle Eminem
is worse than David Starr ♪
318
00:13:08,586 --> 00:13:11,020
♪ Trying to battle Proof,
Eye-Kyu, B-Fat, and Bizarre ♪
319
00:13:11,103 --> 00:13:12,448
[laughter]
320
00:13:12,551 --> 00:13:15,137
When I found out that this
is a battle rap rapper,
321
00:13:15,241 --> 00:13:18,537
and rapping all these
Black rappers in Detroit?
322
00:13:18,620 --> 00:13:19,931
♪ Look, my face is pale ♪
323
00:13:20,034 --> 00:13:21,931
♪ But you look like
you seen a ghost ♪
324
00:13:22,034 --> 00:13:23,296
I knew this was a matter of time
325
00:13:23,379 --> 00:13:24,793
that this guy was
going to make it.
326
00:13:24,931 --> 00:13:26,399
I've been rhyming a long time,
327
00:13:26,482 --> 00:13:28,448
and battle rap is everything,
328
00:13:28,551 --> 00:13:29,931
you know what I'm saying?
329
00:13:30,034 --> 00:13:35,241
It is the equivalent of being
completely vetted in hip-hop,
330
00:13:35,344 --> 00:13:36,365
you know what I'm saying?
331
00:13:36,448 --> 00:13:38,000
Because you learn crowd control,
332
00:13:38,103 --> 00:13:40,448
those lyrical choices,
that storytelling.
333
00:13:40,551 --> 00:13:42,793
That's not stuff
that you can make up.
334
00:13:42,896 --> 00:13:44,275
You can't fake that.
335
00:13:44,379 --> 00:13:46,655
Eminem is forged in battle rap.
336
00:13:46,793 --> 00:13:49,365
He's what I call a
natural-born killer.
337
00:13:49,448 --> 00:13:51,310
And then he took that
to the Rap Olympics,
338
00:13:51,448 --> 00:13:55,054
where all the best rappers
battle for number one.
339
00:13:55,137 --> 00:13:57,068
♪ I'ma tell you this
for your own benefit ♪
340
00:13:57,172 --> 00:13:58,572
♪ Your shit was dope as hell ♪
341
00:13:58,655 --> 00:14:00,123
♪ Especially when
you wrote 90% of it ♪
342
00:14:00,206 --> 00:14:04,296
The first prize was $500,
and I needed that $500, man,
343
00:14:04,379 --> 00:14:05,517
and I lost.
344
00:14:05,620 --> 00:14:07,379
I was fucking devastated.
345
00:14:07,517 --> 00:14:12,000
For him to lose, he was crushed.
346
00:14:12,137 --> 00:14:14,744
But an intern approached
him and said, "Hey, man,
347
00:14:14,827 --> 00:14:16,434
can I have one of your tapes?"
348
00:14:16,517 --> 00:14:18,606
And then he left to go
back home to Detroit
349
00:14:18,689 --> 00:14:21,172
to try to continue
to make music.
350
00:14:21,310 --> 00:14:24,000
All of a sudden, we get
a call from Jimmy Iovine
351
00:14:24,103 --> 00:14:27,137
and Dre himself saying,
"We want to meet with you.
352
00:14:27,241 --> 00:14:28,827
We like your tape."
353
00:14:28,965 --> 00:14:30,724
Dr. Dre, to me,
354
00:14:30,827 --> 00:14:33,896
is the greatest
producer of our time.
355
00:14:34,034 --> 00:14:36,724
♪ You never been on a
ride like this before ♪
356
00:14:36,827 --> 00:14:38,985
♪ With a producer who can
rap and control the micstro ♪
357
00:14:39,068 --> 00:14:40,172
♪ At the same time ♪
358
00:14:40,275 --> 00:14:41,862
The first time I
heard Eminem was in,
359
00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,089
um, Jimmy's garage,
where he used
360
00:14:44,172 --> 00:14:45,606
to have a listening section.
361
00:14:45,689 --> 00:14:47,724
And back then, it was
just cassette tapes,
362
00:14:47,862 --> 00:14:49,951
and he popped this
one in, and he said,
363
00:14:50,034 --> 00:14:51,296
"What do you think about this?"
364
00:14:51,379 --> 00:14:52,882
And it just happened
to be Eminem's demo,
365
00:14:52,965 --> 00:14:54,827
and it had five songs
on it, and one of them
366
00:14:54,965 --> 00:14:57,813
was a song called "I
Just Don't Give a Fuck."
367
00:14:57,896 --> 00:14:59,917
♪ When you see me on your
block with two Glocks ♪
368
00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,848
♪ Screaming fuck the
world like Tupac ♪
369
00:15:01,931 --> 00:15:03,275
♪ I just don't give a fuck ♪
370
00:15:03,379 --> 00:15:05,503
I thought it was just
fucking fascinating.
371
00:15:05,586 --> 00:15:08,068
I had no idea that
what I was listening to
372
00:15:08,172 --> 00:15:09,551
was a white guy, right?
373
00:15:09,655 --> 00:15:10,848
I had no idea.
374
00:15:10,931 --> 00:15:12,848
I just knew that I
wanted to work with him.
375
00:15:12,931 --> 00:15:14,985
Dre was just all in.
376
00:15:15,068 --> 00:15:18,103
And when Dre likes
something that much,
377
00:15:18,206 --> 00:15:20,537
we really pay attention,
especially me.
378
00:15:20,620 --> 00:15:24,413
So I was kind of like,
OK, fly this guy out here.
379
00:15:24,517 --> 00:15:25,848
And when you first met,
380
00:15:25,931 --> 00:15:27,211
what did you think
of each other?
381
00:15:27,310 --> 00:15:28,641
I thought he was Tweety Bird.
382
00:15:28,724 --> 00:15:31,068
[laughter]
383
00:15:31,172 --> 00:15:33,137
-No, 'cause he had this real...
-Fuck you.
384
00:15:33,241 --> 00:15:36,931
He had this real bright
fucking yellow sweat suit on.
385
00:15:37,034 --> 00:15:38,330
Man, if I hear one more thing
386
00:15:38,413 --> 00:15:40,758
about that goddamn sweat suit.
387
00:15:40,862 --> 00:15:42,896
Why are you wearing
a yellow sash?
388
00:15:43,034 --> 00:15:44,103
The yellow sash.
389
00:15:44,241 --> 00:15:46,848
Um, in honor of
Eminem's yellow jumpsuit
390
00:15:46,931 --> 00:15:48,848
the day he met Dre,
which I think is just
391
00:15:48,931 --> 00:15:50,655
such a magical moment in itself.
392
00:15:50,758 --> 00:15:53,192
But he called me a
banana when he met me,
393
00:15:53,275 --> 00:15:56,241
so it was on from there.
394
00:15:56,379 --> 00:15:58,813
Dre has always been
pushing the edges.
395
00:15:58,896 --> 00:16:02,000
And this guy starts on the edge,
396
00:16:02,103 --> 00:16:05,917
so it was a... it was a
marriage made somewhere.
397
00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,517
[laughs]
398
00:16:07,620 --> 00:16:11,434
Without Dre, I don't know
where Eminem would be,
399
00:16:11,517 --> 00:16:15,000
and what shaped him
in his earlier life
400
00:16:15,103 --> 00:16:17,620
carries on with him even now.
401
00:16:17,724 --> 00:16:19,137
[line beeps]
402
00:16:19,241 --> 00:16:21,551
Hey, Em, what's
going on? It's Paul.
403
00:16:21,655 --> 00:16:23,137
Uh, listen, if you wanna talk
404
00:16:23,241 --> 00:16:25,261
to those camera crews, go ahead,
405
00:16:25,344 --> 00:16:27,089
just don't say a
bunch of dumb shit.
406
00:16:27,172 --> 00:16:28,793
All right, call me back.
407
00:16:28,931 --> 00:16:30,758
[line clicks]
408
00:16:30,862 --> 00:16:33,034
There's a lot of
method to this madness.
409
00:16:33,137 --> 00:16:36,054
I always keep this shit,
Entertainer's Secret.
410
00:16:36,137 --> 00:16:38,551
Shh. Don't tell nobody.
411
00:16:38,655 --> 00:16:42,744
Um, it's, uh... actually,
Rick Rubin told me about this,
412
00:16:42,827 --> 00:16:45,482
and ever since the day
he told me about it,
413
00:16:45,586 --> 00:16:48,827
I've been using it for the
past seven years straight.
414
00:16:48,965 --> 00:16:52,034
I use it onstage. It's
fucking incredible.
415
00:16:52,137 --> 00:16:56,448
Especially, like, you know,
my voice only lasts so long,
416
00:16:56,551 --> 00:16:59,137
especially if I'm
doing, like, some, like,
417
00:16:59,275 --> 00:17:00,689
screaming shit or something.
418
00:17:00,793 --> 00:17:04,517
So like, this is the... this
is my best friend right here.
419
00:17:04,620 --> 00:17:06,655
What's it taste like?
420
00:17:06,758 --> 00:17:08,689
Uh, semen.
421
00:17:08,793 --> 00:17:11,551
Not that I know how that tastes.
422
00:17:11,655 --> 00:17:17,206
But if I were to guess,
I would say semen.
423
00:17:17,310 --> 00:17:18,641
I go through pens.
424
00:17:18,724 --> 00:17:20,296
I did go through a couple years
425
00:17:20,379 --> 00:17:23,172
where I was trying to
use red ink and blue ink,
426
00:17:23,275 --> 00:17:25,848
different colored inks
for different color ideas,
427
00:17:25,931 --> 00:17:27,951
like different ideas and
shit, but it didn't work.
428
00:17:28,034 --> 00:17:31,931
I just stuck to the black
and just stayed with it.
429
00:17:32,034 --> 00:17:34,641
Every time I write, there's
different stages of it,
430
00:17:34,724 --> 00:17:38,206
and that's one of the reasons
that I keep a book now
431
00:17:38,310 --> 00:17:39,896
and I never get writer's block.
432
00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,985
♪ ♪
433
00:17:43,068 --> 00:17:45,586
I'm always able to
go back in my book
434
00:17:45,689 --> 00:17:49,034
and have unlimited ideas.
435
00:17:51,172 --> 00:17:54,379
Sometimes I just write
my rhyming words down
436
00:17:54,482 --> 00:17:57,503
and not the stuff in
between, so that it can't be
437
00:17:57,586 --> 00:18:00,275
put together if
someone finds it.
438
00:18:05,482 --> 00:18:08,710
To see his lyric sheets,
I mean, this is...
439
00:18:08,793 --> 00:18:10,537
this is magic right here.
440
00:18:10,620 --> 00:18:13,172
If I could own an original piece
441
00:18:13,275 --> 00:18:14,931
I would frame this in my home,
442
00:18:15,034 --> 00:18:16,330
and I'd point it out
to any fucking people
443
00:18:16,413 --> 00:18:17,620
that walked in.
444
00:18:17,758 --> 00:18:19,275
I'd make them look
at it with me.
445
00:18:19,379 --> 00:18:21,758
I'd make them dissect it
under a microscope with me.
446
00:18:21,862 --> 00:18:24,448
I'd make them say,
"oh, yo, this song...
447
00:18:24,551 --> 00:18:25,827
this line went into this song."
448
00:18:25,931 --> 00:18:26,931
I'm looking at something
449
00:18:27,034 --> 00:18:29,068
that resembles my grocery list.
450
00:18:30,413 --> 00:18:31,675
I write like this.
451
00:18:31,758 --> 00:18:32,758
My husband hates it.
452
00:18:32,862 --> 00:18:35,275
I seriously write the same way.
453
00:18:35,379 --> 00:18:37,172
I want to pick this man's brain.
454
00:18:37,275 --> 00:18:39,241
Like, it's a lot of
just, like, scribbles
455
00:18:39,344 --> 00:18:40,275
and, like, thoughts.
456
00:18:40,413 --> 00:18:43,758
But wow, this is...
457
00:18:43,896 --> 00:18:45,882
yeah. [laughs]
458
00:18:45,965 --> 00:18:48,054
There's... there's a
lot of cursing on here.
459
00:18:48,137 --> 00:18:49,227
But I think it says,
460
00:18:49,310 --> 00:18:52,054
"Fuck, I'm sick of
duckin' in public."
461
00:18:52,137 --> 00:18:55,103
[soft music]
462
00:18:55,241 --> 00:18:58,020
When I look at the
handwritten lyrics,
463
00:18:58,103 --> 00:19:00,517
I feel like I see a busy brain.
464
00:19:00,620 --> 00:19:05,655
♪ ♪
465
00:19:05,758 --> 00:19:09,551
Seeing how he gets the
things out of his brain
466
00:19:09,689 --> 00:19:12,951
that way definitely influenced
me to get your thoughts out
467
00:19:13,034 --> 00:19:14,089
and making sense of them.
468
00:19:14,172 --> 00:19:15,503
You know, I have a
PhD, but it's not
469
00:19:15,586 --> 00:19:17,551
in typography or whatever.
470
00:19:17,655 --> 00:19:19,123
But it's like, it certainly
looks like someone
471
00:19:19,206 --> 00:19:23,206
who is dealing with
some intense emotion.
472
00:19:23,310 --> 00:19:25,482
It looks like it was
very scribbled down
473
00:19:25,620 --> 00:19:26,985
kind of hastily,
474
00:19:27,068 --> 00:19:30,000
and trying to spontaneously
capture something.
475
00:19:30,137 --> 00:19:32,344
♪
476
00:19:32,482 --> 00:19:35,310
I think it was, like, a
"Rolling Stone" interview.
477
00:19:35,413 --> 00:19:37,517
They asked him if he
ever thought about
478
00:19:37,620 --> 00:19:39,724
going to a shrink, and
he said he don't need to
479
00:19:39,827 --> 00:19:42,827
'cause his music is his
therapy, and honestly,
480
00:19:42,931 --> 00:19:45,172
that's... that's the
best therapy there is.
481
00:19:45,275 --> 00:19:47,344
Like, when you have an
outlet, something that you're
482
00:19:47,482 --> 00:19:49,917
passionate about,
and you use that.
483
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,137
That's the best way.
484
00:19:51,275 --> 00:19:54,724
♪
485
00:19:54,862 --> 00:19:58,434
My childhood certainly
wasn't the greatest.
486
00:19:58,517 --> 00:20:02,468
I always took that learning
experiences from my childhood
487
00:20:02,551 --> 00:20:04,606
and life lessons
and kind of was able
488
00:20:04,689 --> 00:20:08,813
to apply them through my music.
489
00:20:08,896 --> 00:20:11,641
I definitely find
relatability in him
490
00:20:11,724 --> 00:20:14,896
because he's somebody
who has written
491
00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,296
so honestly about struggling,
and I feel like that's why
492
00:20:18,379 --> 00:20:21,206
so many people
can relate to him.
493
00:20:21,310 --> 00:20:22,813
I had the greatest
life in the world,
494
00:20:22,896 --> 00:20:24,296
coming from a
single-parent home.
495
00:20:24,379 --> 00:20:25,862
You know, my mother
never had a job.
496
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,551
I hate to say that, you know.
497
00:20:27,655 --> 00:20:30,724
But, um, it took a toll,
man, being bounced around
498
00:20:30,827 --> 00:20:32,468
from school to school to
school to school to school,
499
00:20:32,551 --> 00:20:33,793
from state to state.
500
00:20:33,896 --> 00:20:35,813
And friends come
over and you don't
501
00:20:35,896 --> 00:20:38,434
want them to see your
family's on welfare and shit,
502
00:20:38,517 --> 00:20:40,793
so you hide the cheese
and shit like that.
503
00:20:40,896 --> 00:20:42,137
You know, that's real.
504
00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:43,434
I mean, it's funny,
but it's not funny,
505
00:20:43,517 --> 00:20:44,689
you know what I mean?
506
00:20:44,827 --> 00:20:46,261
It's like I look back
on it like, damn,
507
00:20:46,344 --> 00:20:48,172
that's fucked up,
you know, but...
508
00:20:48,310 --> 00:20:51,813
My mom and I had a pretty
unstable relationship
509
00:20:51,896 --> 00:20:54,724
growing up, and there
was a lot of struggles
510
00:20:54,827 --> 00:20:57,813
with finances 'cause it
was just the two of us.
511
00:20:57,896 --> 00:21:00,296
I also came out as
a transgender man,
512
00:21:00,379 --> 00:21:02,399
and transness, or
even queerness,
513
00:21:02,482 --> 00:21:06,586
was not a conversation
in the area I grew up in.
514
00:21:06,689 --> 00:21:11,482
Being born female, it was
a very isolating, like,
515
00:21:11,620 --> 00:21:15,537
feeling to not really
know anyone else
516
00:21:15,620 --> 00:21:17,103
who I could relate to.
517
00:21:17,206 --> 00:21:22,827
His struggles with bullying
also lined up with mine.
518
00:21:22,965 --> 00:21:25,227
There was a lot of moments
where I didn't make...
519
00:21:25,310 --> 00:21:29,537
like, I wasn't sure if I would
make it out on the other side.
520
00:21:29,620 --> 00:21:32,399
Eminem was bullied relentlessly
521
00:21:32,482 --> 00:21:34,172
in elementary school.
522
00:21:34,275 --> 00:21:37,848
And it's horribly tragic
to me because even now
523
00:21:37,931 --> 00:21:39,344
I carry some of the traumas
524
00:21:39,448 --> 00:21:43,882
of my own life
from being bullied,
525
00:21:43,965 --> 00:21:46,931
and I can feel that in some
of the music he's written.
526
00:21:47,034 --> 00:21:48,965
So in the song "Brain Damage,"
527
00:21:49,103 --> 00:21:53,344
Eminem or Marshall is
getting bullied at school.
528
00:21:53,448 --> 00:21:56,241
[Eminem's "Brain Damage"]
529
00:21:56,379 --> 00:22:03,517
♪
530
00:22:14,793 --> 00:22:16,985
You know, bleeding on the carpet
531
00:22:17,068 --> 00:22:20,123
and then having your parent
being like, look at you,
532
00:22:20,206 --> 00:22:22,172
you're getting blood
all over my rugs...
533
00:22:22,275 --> 00:22:24,123
I felt that.
534
00:22:24,206 --> 00:22:26,241
Growing up, I would
get into fights.
535
00:22:26,344 --> 00:22:29,296
I'd get into fights
a good amount.
536
00:22:29,379 --> 00:22:32,379
I'd get bullied from other kids
537
00:22:32,482 --> 00:22:35,241
calling me a faggot
for wearing tight pants
538
00:22:35,344 --> 00:22:37,551
because I was a skater kid.
539
00:22:37,655 --> 00:22:39,586
Going into my room,
and then putting on
540
00:22:39,689 --> 00:22:43,827
a song like "Brain Damage,"
that's what helped me.
541
00:22:43,931 --> 00:22:45,434
It was sophomore
year, and I went to go
542
00:22:45,517 --> 00:22:47,655
to a Super Bowl party
with my friends.
543
00:22:47,758 --> 00:22:49,172
We were watching the Super Bowl,
544
00:22:49,275 --> 00:22:50,261
and I had my hands in my head...
545
00:22:50,344 --> 00:22:52,344
my head in my hands like this,
546
00:22:52,448 --> 00:22:54,965
sitting on the ground with
my stomach on the ground,
547
00:22:55,068 --> 00:22:56,606
looking up at the TV.
548
00:22:56,689 --> 00:23:00,379
And a kid on the couch
spilled his iced tea
549
00:23:00,517 --> 00:23:03,586
and went, "Oh, I know what I
can use to pick that up with,"
550
00:23:03,724 --> 00:23:05,241
and grabbed his other friend.
551
00:23:05,379 --> 00:23:07,123
They picked me up by my feet
and used my hair as a mop
552
00:23:07,206 --> 00:23:11,275
and then threw me on
the ground, and I was...
553
00:23:11,379 --> 00:23:15,206
these were supposed
to be my friends.
554
00:23:15,310 --> 00:23:18,586
It made me sometimes not
want to go to school,
555
00:23:18,689 --> 00:23:23,103
but I went because I
had Marshall's music.
556
00:23:23,241 --> 00:23:24,758
[bell rings]
557
00:23:24,862 --> 00:23:26,365
I would put my CD player on
558
00:23:26,448 --> 00:23:29,758
and just walk
through the hallways.
559
00:23:29,862 --> 00:23:31,848
He inspired me to write.
560
00:23:31,931 --> 00:23:33,827
I write poetry.
561
00:23:33,965 --> 00:23:38,054
I loved how he could just
bend the English language,
562
00:23:38,137 --> 00:23:40,758
use different words to
rhyme off other words
563
00:23:40,862 --> 00:23:43,103
that necessarily wouldn't rhyme,
564
00:23:43,241 --> 00:23:46,586
like orange, door
hinge, syringe.
565
00:23:46,689 --> 00:23:50,448
That's great. [laughs]
566
00:23:50,551 --> 00:23:55,448
His music made me feel like
I wasn't alone in this world,
567
00:23:55,586 --> 00:23:57,586
with what I was going through.
568
00:23:57,689 --> 00:23:59,448
[somber music]
569
00:23:59,551 --> 00:24:01,434
Hip-hop was the
most important thing
570
00:24:01,517 --> 00:24:03,468
that empowered me as a kid.
571
00:24:03,551 --> 00:24:06,000
It made me feel
tough when I wasn't.
572
00:24:06,103 --> 00:24:09,172
I was a scrawny little
kid growing up on 8 Mile,
573
00:24:09,275 --> 00:24:12,296
walking up the fucking
block, put headphones on,
574
00:24:12,379 --> 00:24:15,641
and it made me feel powerful.
575
00:24:15,724 --> 00:24:18,551
Hip-hop, it taught me how
to throw my first punch,
576
00:24:18,689 --> 00:24:21,172
gave me the confidence.
It was like my dad.
577
00:24:21,275 --> 00:24:23,482
And it was the only thing
that made me empowered.
578
00:24:23,586 --> 00:24:25,123
It made me feel
good about myself.
579
00:24:25,206 --> 00:24:26,848
And when I started being
able to write rhymes
580
00:24:26,931 --> 00:24:28,862
and figured out I could do it,
581
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,862
that's where the
feeling comes from.
582
00:24:32,965 --> 00:24:36,344
As a teenager, I definitely
had a lot of anger.
583
00:24:36,448 --> 00:24:39,572
I haven't met my father in
person since I was probably,
584
00:24:39,655 --> 00:24:42,724
like, one or two or something.
585
00:24:42,862 --> 00:24:45,000
But I never had anybody
that I could relate to
586
00:24:45,103 --> 00:24:48,123
in that regard growing up.
587
00:24:48,206 --> 00:24:49,744
Whenever he would talk
about his father too,
588
00:24:49,827 --> 00:24:51,827
he always sounded so angry.
589
00:24:51,965 --> 00:24:54,689
So I always gravitated
more towards
590
00:24:54,793 --> 00:24:56,744
the angrier-sounding Eminem,
591
00:24:56,827 --> 00:24:59,296
and Slim Shady was his alter ego
592
00:24:59,379 --> 00:25:00,689
and split personality for that.
593
00:25:00,827 --> 00:25:03,620
Eminem, Slim Shady,
Marshall Mathers.
594
00:25:03,724 --> 00:25:05,931
Could you briefly tell
us where one stops,
595
00:25:06,034 --> 00:25:07,296
the other one begins,
and the difference
596
00:25:07,379 --> 00:25:08,882
between the three
different characters?
597
00:25:08,965 --> 00:25:12,517
Marshall Mathers stops
when the Bacardi kicks in,
598
00:25:12,620 --> 00:25:14,206
and then it's Slim Shady.
599
00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:16,275
Marshall is the
human being where
600
00:25:16,379 --> 00:25:21,103
the heart and the human
experience come from.
601
00:25:21,206 --> 00:25:24,813
Eminem is the artist
through which Slim Shady
602
00:25:24,896 --> 00:25:26,482
and Marshall are channeled.
603
00:25:26,586 --> 00:25:28,537
That's where you see the
skill and the talent.
604
00:25:28,620 --> 00:25:32,275
And then Slim Shady is
this cartoon character.
605
00:25:32,413 --> 00:25:35,620
Slim is, uh, the
jokester, the hey,
606
00:25:35,724 --> 00:25:37,103
I'm here for a good time.
607
00:25:37,241 --> 00:25:39,192
A crazy son of a bitch...
608
00:25:39,275 --> 00:25:42,192
[laughs] Um, that I love.
609
00:25:42,275 --> 00:25:45,241
He has, like, this
I-don't-give-a-fuck attitude.
610
00:25:45,344 --> 00:25:47,537
He's like a psycho,
but in a good way.
611
00:25:47,620 --> 00:25:49,965
Uh, says whatever the
fuck he wants to say.
612
00:25:50,103 --> 00:25:53,192
He'll probably kill if you
look at him the wrong way.
613
00:25:53,275 --> 00:25:54,517
I'm putting the mask on.
614
00:25:54,620 --> 00:25:56,192
I'm like, I can be me.
615
00:25:56,275 --> 00:25:57,413
I can say what I want.
616
00:25:57,517 --> 00:25:59,758
I can flip a fucking
desk if I needed to.
617
00:25:59,896 --> 00:26:01,744
Even though he was
just being himself,
618
00:26:01,827 --> 00:26:03,000
people didn't like that.
619
00:26:03,137 --> 00:26:04,793
People did not like that at all.
620
00:26:04,896 --> 00:26:05,951
I mean, let's just
say the least,
621
00:26:06,034 --> 00:26:07,517
it was a trying time.
622
00:26:07,620 --> 00:26:11,310
We were criticized enormously
for putting his music out.
623
00:26:11,413 --> 00:26:14,744
That controversy was covered
extensively by the media.
624
00:26:14,827 --> 00:26:16,227
While Black rappers
often get a pass
625
00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:17,517
on lyrical nihilism,
626
00:26:17,620 --> 00:26:19,434
Eminem, who's white,
has been taking
627
00:26:19,517 --> 00:26:22,482
some intense critical heat for
his jokey, hard-nosed rhymes.
628
00:26:22,620 --> 00:26:24,434
In Eminem's songs,
women are portrayed
629
00:26:24,517 --> 00:26:27,275
as little more than strippers,
630
00:26:27,379 --> 00:26:30,172
punching bags, and
sperm receptacles.
631
00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:32,172
It's so sad to see
those parents dropping
632
00:26:32,275 --> 00:26:33,793
their children off and saying,
633
00:26:33,896 --> 00:26:35,503
I don't know what the
lyrics are all about.
634
00:26:35,586 --> 00:26:38,482
[Vivaldi's "The Four
Seasons, 'Spring'"
635
00:26:38,586 --> 00:26:43,089
♪ ♪
636
00:26:43,172 --> 00:26:45,137
Perhaps one of the
most interesting words
637
00:26:45,275 --> 00:26:49,137
in the English language
today is the word "fuck."
638
00:26:49,275 --> 00:26:50,434
Out of all of the English words
639
00:26:50,517 --> 00:26:52,655
that begin with the letter F,
640
00:26:52,758 --> 00:26:56,103
"fuck" is the only word that
is referred to as the F-word.
641
00:26:56,206 --> 00:27:00,399
It's the one magical
word, just by its sound,
642
00:27:00,482 --> 00:27:04,206
can describe pain,
pleasure, hate, and love.
643
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:08,517
In English, fuck falls into
many grammatical categories.
644
00:27:08,620 --> 00:27:10,985
As a transitive
verb, for instance:
645
00:27:11,068 --> 00:27:12,985
"John fucked Shirley."
646
00:27:13,068 --> 00:27:15,034
As an intransitive verb:
647
00:27:15,172 --> 00:27:16,675
"Shirley fucks."
648
00:27:16,758 --> 00:27:18,000
It can be used as an adjective,
649
00:27:18,103 --> 00:27:21,689
such as, "John's doing
all the fucking work."
650
00:27:21,793 --> 00:27:23,468
As part of an adverb:
651
00:27:23,551 --> 00:27:26,000
"Shirley talks
too fucking much."
652
00:27:26,103 --> 00:27:27,517
As a noun:
653
00:27:27,620 --> 00:27:29,503
"I don't give a fuck."
654
00:27:29,586 --> 00:27:31,985
With all of these
multipurpose applications,
655
00:27:32,068 --> 00:27:35,275
how can anyone be offended
when you use the word?
656
00:27:35,379 --> 00:27:38,551
Say it loudly and proudly.
657
00:27:38,655 --> 00:27:42,206
Fuck you!
658
00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:43,641
You rap about raping
and killing women,
659
00:27:43,724 --> 00:27:45,089
but you really don't do
that, do you, Eminem?
660
00:27:45,172 --> 00:27:46,537
-Yes.
-You do rape and kill women?
661
00:27:46,620 --> 00:27:47,551
Yes.
662
00:27:47,655 --> 00:27:49,158
Uh, are you amazed at the, uh,
663
00:27:49,241 --> 00:27:50,882
the firestorm that has
begun, and are you afraid
664
00:27:50,965 --> 00:27:52,413
it could be a career-destroyer?
665
00:27:52,517 --> 00:27:54,379
Um, I'm not worried
about it because anybody
666
00:27:54,482 --> 00:27:55,985
with half a brain is
going to be able to tell
667
00:27:56,068 --> 00:27:57,896
when I'm joking and
when I'm serious.
668
00:27:58,034 --> 00:28:00,103
With the first album,
"The Slim Shady LP,"
669
00:28:00,206 --> 00:28:02,448
all of a sudden,
now it's important.
670
00:28:02,551 --> 00:28:05,103
What I have to say is important.
671
00:28:05,206 --> 00:28:09,882
I remember one of the first
times signing autographs,
672
00:28:09,965 --> 00:28:12,000
there'd be, like, a
line out the door,
673
00:28:12,137 --> 00:28:15,103
and somebody would be like,
yo, I just want you to know,
674
00:28:15,206 --> 00:28:18,192
man, you helped me so much
for... for this or for that.
675
00:28:18,275 --> 00:28:19,503
So now I'm like...
676
00:28:19,586 --> 00:28:20,827
What's your name?
677
00:28:20,931 --> 00:28:22,655
Writing a long paragraph
for them and shit,
678
00:28:22,758 --> 00:28:24,655
and signing their name,
and people are like, yo,
679
00:28:24,758 --> 00:28:25,951
can you speed it
up a little bit?
680
00:28:26,034 --> 00:28:27,020
'Cause we're not going
to get to everybody.
681
00:28:27,103 --> 00:28:28,054
-Hello.
-Can I have a hug?
682
00:28:28,137 --> 00:28:29,448
How you doing?
683
00:28:29,551 --> 00:28:31,710
I was living inside it
when it was all new to me
684
00:28:31,793 --> 00:28:33,793
and I still didn't
understand it.
685
00:28:33,896 --> 00:28:36,620
You know, this guy
has been somebody
686
00:28:36,724 --> 00:28:38,758
that I've been trying
to meet for a long time,
687
00:28:38,862 --> 00:28:43,054
and he's not easy
to get close to.
688
00:28:43,137 --> 00:28:46,482
Since I was 14, I
had this fandom in me
689
00:28:46,620 --> 00:28:48,344
that I wanted to, like, express,
690
00:28:48,448 --> 00:28:50,275
and I just didn't know how to.
691
00:28:52,620 --> 00:28:55,965
I remember the first
portrait tattoo that I got,
692
00:28:56,103 --> 00:28:59,448
being really anxious
about the pain.
693
00:28:59,586 --> 00:29:05,123
It's like a scratch,
quite a sharp scratch,
694
00:29:05,206 --> 00:29:06,951
and it depends kind of
695
00:29:07,034 --> 00:29:08,434
what it is that
you're having done.
696
00:29:08,517 --> 00:29:10,862
Like, the lines are
the worst because it's
697
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,261
being dragged against your skin.
698
00:29:13,344 --> 00:29:15,468
But I fell in love
with the process
699
00:29:15,551 --> 00:29:17,862
of tattooing that day.
700
00:29:17,965 --> 00:29:21,241
I've kind of described it
as, I walked in one person
701
00:29:21,344 --> 00:29:24,689
and left a different person.
702
00:29:24,827 --> 00:29:28,241
And then it kind of
snowballed after that.
703
00:29:28,344 --> 00:29:30,689
In 2020, I set the
Guinness World Record
704
00:29:30,827 --> 00:29:34,517
for having the most tattoos
of the same musician.
705
00:29:34,620 --> 00:29:37,724
It has become my identity.
706
00:29:37,862 --> 00:29:41,344
Now that I've got
the ink, I feel like
707
00:29:41,482 --> 00:29:44,000
I've got to have a
possibility of meeting him.
708
00:29:44,103 --> 00:29:45,862
[flashbulbs bursting]
709
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,517
The first time I
met Marshall was
710
00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:49,310
for the "Rolling Stone" cover.
711
00:29:49,413 --> 00:29:52,434
I was just shown into,
like, a conference room,
712
00:29:52,517 --> 00:29:54,310
and no one else was in there.
713
00:29:54,413 --> 00:29:56,413
And I sort of asked the
security guy to let me in.
714
00:29:56,517 --> 00:29:58,172
Like, just, hey,
is Marshall around?
715
00:29:58,275 --> 00:29:59,915
I just want to say hi,
and all that stuff.
716
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,951
So he pointed to a
door that I didn't
717
00:30:02,034 --> 00:30:03,985
realize was the bathroom.
718
00:30:04,068 --> 00:30:08,000
And, uh, and I opened it
up, and I heard him puking.
719
00:30:08,103 --> 00:30:09,172
[toilet flushes]
720
00:30:09,275 --> 00:30:10,620
He came out of the stall.
721
00:30:10,724 --> 00:30:12,310
I was like, uh, hi, Marshall,
722
00:30:12,413 --> 00:30:13,434
it's really nice to meet you.
723
00:30:13,517 --> 00:30:14,641
Put my hand out.
724
00:30:14,724 --> 00:30:15,744
I'm Anthony from
"Rolling Stone,"
725
00:30:15,827 --> 00:30:17,827
like, super dork.
726
00:30:17,931 --> 00:30:20,000
And he just looked at
me and, like, burped...
727
00:30:20,103 --> 00:30:21,123
[belching sound effect]
728
00:30:21,206 --> 00:30:22,310
And, like, walked out.
729
00:30:22,448 --> 00:30:25,158
[hip-hop music]
730
00:30:25,241 --> 00:30:28,468
One of the three venues we
went to that first night was,
731
00:30:28,551 --> 00:30:31,206
like, a 16-year-old's
birthday party.
732
00:30:31,344 --> 00:30:33,344
You know, it was
basically Beatlemania.
733
00:30:33,448 --> 00:30:36,517
They were grabbing at
him, pulling at his shirt.
734
00:30:36,620 --> 00:30:38,862
The police were there
to, like, make sure
735
00:30:38,965 --> 00:30:40,379
that the limo got in and out.
736
00:30:40,517 --> 00:30:42,089
There were girls, like,
putting their boobs
737
00:30:42,172 --> 00:30:43,606
on the glass of the car.
738
00:30:43,689 --> 00:30:45,606
I remember him saying,
like, you're pretty cute.
739
00:30:45,689 --> 00:30:48,827
I love you too, but
I'm not going to jail.
740
00:30:48,965 --> 00:30:51,379
The night went from,
you know, then until
741
00:30:51,482 --> 00:30:53,172
about 4:00 or 5:00
in the morning.
742
00:30:53,275 --> 00:30:54,379
And for the whole time,
743
00:30:54,517 --> 00:30:56,068
he didn't speak a
word to me at all.
744
00:30:56,172 --> 00:30:58,137
♪ ♪
745
00:30:58,241 --> 00:31:02,275
So I've got my little circle
of family and friends,
746
00:31:02,379 --> 00:31:04,020
people that I've
basically grown up with,
747
00:31:04,103 --> 00:31:05,537
because I feel
like, at this point,
748
00:31:05,620 --> 00:31:08,068
anybody that I meet
after this only knows me
749
00:31:08,172 --> 00:31:11,675
for Eminem or Slim Shady
and doesn't know Marshall.
750
00:31:11,758 --> 00:31:13,724
So that's why I keep
those friends around,
751
00:31:13,827 --> 00:31:15,503
'cause I know that those
are the people that
752
00:31:15,586 --> 00:31:17,985
really care about me for me.
753
00:31:18,068 --> 00:31:20,330
I think it was a
defense against, like,
754
00:31:20,413 --> 00:31:22,724
the attention, the
fame. Just survival.
755
00:31:22,827 --> 00:31:24,241
Just trying to, like, take it in
756
00:31:24,344 --> 00:31:25,641
and figure out what
the hell's happening,
757
00:31:25,724 --> 00:31:27,137
'cause it happened so fast.
758
00:31:27,241 --> 00:31:29,758
[plane whooshing]
759
00:31:29,862 --> 00:31:31,241
♪ ♪
760
00:31:31,379 --> 00:31:33,137
-So you show it to Eminem?
-Oh, yeah.
761
00:31:33,241 --> 00:31:34,158
-Yeah?
-Yes.
762
00:31:34,241 --> 00:31:35,468
Hello, Eminem. [laughter]
763
00:31:35,551 --> 00:31:39,068
[cheering]
764
00:31:39,172 --> 00:31:40,448
[chainsaw buzzing]
765
00:31:40,586 --> 00:31:43,448
It's really an eye-opener
to see how crazy
766
00:31:43,551 --> 00:31:45,310
some people do get for Eminem.
767
00:31:45,413 --> 00:31:47,896
I travel the world for him.
768
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,896
[cheering]
769
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,413
Nobody here.
770
00:31:51,517 --> 00:31:53,103
Just me and the camera.
771
00:31:53,206 --> 00:31:54,758
Oh, no.
772
00:31:54,862 --> 00:31:57,896
Well, one of these have
to be the jet for the day.
773
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,758
Want that one? Or even that one.
774
00:31:59,896 --> 00:32:01,917
Paul's telling me to put
on my fucking seat belt,
775
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,606
like if the plane
crashes, it's gonna help.
776
00:32:04,689 --> 00:32:08,572
I've seen Eminem in concert
about 30-something times.
777
00:32:08,655 --> 00:32:10,517
15 different cities
778
00:32:10,620 --> 00:32:12,744
in six, seven
different countries.
779
00:32:12,827 --> 00:32:14,103
I'm a parrot.
780
00:32:14,206 --> 00:32:16,965
I'm an embarrassed
parrot in Paris.
781
00:32:17,103 --> 00:32:18,344
-Oh, Eminem!
-Eminem!
782
00:32:18,448 --> 00:32:20,054
Eminem!
783
00:32:20,137 --> 00:32:23,482
I made this costume
because I wanted to wear
784
00:32:23,586 --> 00:32:27,000
something very eye-catching.
785
00:32:27,103 --> 00:32:29,965
They actually put me on camera
786
00:32:30,068 --> 00:32:31,482
throughout the stadium,
787
00:32:31,586 --> 00:32:33,931
and some random man
put me on his shoulders
788
00:32:34,034 --> 00:32:35,951
to, like, showcase it.
789
00:32:36,034 --> 00:32:38,689
I was hoping, of course,
he's gonna see my costume,
790
00:32:38,793 --> 00:32:40,310
and he's gonna
think it's so cool,
791
00:32:40,413 --> 00:32:42,213
and he's gonna invite
me on stage and meet me.
792
00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:44,310
I was asking Paul
today, I was like, uh,
793
00:32:44,413 --> 00:32:45,710
why do people want
to talk to me?
794
00:32:45,793 --> 00:32:47,827
And he was like, you rap well,
795
00:32:47,965 --> 00:32:49,779
you say a lot of personal shit,
796
00:32:49,862 --> 00:32:50,951
and your music and
your life is like
797
00:32:51,034 --> 00:32:53,620
the fucking "Jerry
Springer Show."
798
00:32:53,724 --> 00:32:55,054
"I didn't really
start doing drugs
799
00:32:55,137 --> 00:32:56,655
"until I rapped about them.
800
00:32:56,758 --> 00:32:58,744
"When I was on tour
rapping about Vicodin
801
00:32:58,827 --> 00:33:00,434
"or mushrooms or ecstasy,
802
00:33:00,517 --> 00:33:02,468
people started throwing
that shit my way."
803
00:33:02,551 --> 00:33:03,641
"I couldn't believe the effect
804
00:33:03,724 --> 00:33:05,172
"my lyrics had on people.
805
00:33:05,275 --> 00:33:07,344
They thought we were
literally drug addicts..."
806
00:33:07,448 --> 00:33:08,744
"And that they
could get backstage
807
00:33:08,827 --> 00:33:10,034
"and bring us substances.
808
00:33:10,137 --> 00:33:11,296
"It was wild.
809
00:33:11,379 --> 00:33:13,241
Welcome to rock and roll."
810
00:33:13,344 --> 00:33:16,344
[cheering, chanting]
811
00:33:17,862 --> 00:33:19,482
Yo, they were so
loud, we couldn't rap
812
00:33:19,586 --> 00:33:20,862
for, like, 10 minutes.
813
00:33:20,965 --> 00:33:22,227
Just seeing, like,
how he was living
814
00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:23,641
and the breakneck pace,
815
00:33:23,724 --> 00:33:26,158
instant stardom, instant fandom,
816
00:33:26,241 --> 00:33:27,537
and people starting
to get obsessed.
817
00:33:27,620 --> 00:33:29,724
What the fuck?
818
00:33:29,862 --> 00:33:30,985
I was just rooting
for him to, like...
819
00:33:31,068 --> 00:33:32,296
to hang on for the rocket ride.
820
00:33:32,379 --> 00:33:33,985
England, we're out of here.
821
00:33:34,068 --> 00:33:35,517
We love you. Thank you.
822
00:33:35,655 --> 00:33:37,517
Peace.
823
00:33:40,034 --> 00:33:42,379
Were you prepared
for how much the fans
824
00:33:42,482 --> 00:33:44,034
would connect with you?
825
00:33:44,172 --> 00:33:49,517
What I put out
was very much, um,
826
00:33:49,620 --> 00:33:52,896
raw and, like, just real,
827
00:33:53,034 --> 00:33:56,951
as far as situations in
my life and how I came up
828
00:33:57,034 --> 00:33:58,000
and shit like that.
829
00:33:58,103 --> 00:34:01,572
And I think that
that's maybe one
830
00:34:01,655 --> 00:34:05,931
of the things that
made some people
831
00:34:06,068 --> 00:34:07,689
feel like they could relate.
832
00:34:07,793 --> 00:34:11,103
It was a weird, strange
kind of adjustment,
833
00:34:11,206 --> 00:34:15,965
and my personality wasn't
well-equipped to handle that.
834
00:34:16,068 --> 00:34:16,931
[pulsating music]
835
00:34:17,034 --> 00:34:18,310
"FANatic."
836
00:34:18,448 --> 00:34:19,848
I've never gotten into any music
837
00:34:19,931 --> 00:34:21,537
like I've gotten
into Eminem's lyrics.
838
00:34:21,620 --> 00:34:25,482
Like, once I started listening
to him, I couldn't stop.
839
00:34:25,586 --> 00:34:27,537
We are at the restaurant
that Eminem worked at
840
00:34:27,620 --> 00:34:29,103
before he made it big.
841
00:34:29,206 --> 00:34:31,365
Around the time Marshall's
really starting to blow up,
842
00:34:31,448 --> 00:34:32,931
there's a million channels.
843
00:34:33,068 --> 00:34:34,365
You know, the Internet
starts picking up.
844
00:34:34,448 --> 00:34:36,275
This is where Eminem
spent most of his time.
845
00:34:36,379 --> 00:34:37,848
[gasps] This is the
phone Eminem touched.
846
00:34:37,931 --> 00:34:40,965
Content is just at its
infancy of becoming king.
847
00:34:41,068 --> 00:34:43,172
From a media standpoint,
you are really
848
00:34:43,275 --> 00:34:45,517
now into the minutia
of what it takes
849
00:34:45,620 --> 00:34:47,172
to hold on to an audience.
850
00:34:47,275 --> 00:34:49,172
And what that came
down to for us, really,
851
00:34:49,310 --> 00:34:52,172
was like, the fan experience,
we gotta go even more.
852
00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:54,000
What was your best
subject in school?
853
00:34:54,137 --> 00:34:55,655
Oh, my God, none.
854
00:34:55,758 --> 00:34:57,517
Maybe English. I was
all right at English.
855
00:34:57,620 --> 00:34:58,965
Everything else I
was horrible at.
856
00:34:59,068 --> 00:35:00,572
I was the worst.
857
00:35:00,655 --> 00:35:03,158
Fans just had such an
insatiable appetite
858
00:35:03,241 --> 00:35:04,551
for more and more access
859
00:35:04,689 --> 00:35:05,951
to the artists that they loved.
860
00:35:06,034 --> 00:35:07,710
I mean, now you're really
opening the floodgates
861
00:35:07,793 --> 00:35:08,985
for people who see that
862
00:35:09,068 --> 00:35:10,261
to live vicariously
through that moment
863
00:35:10,344 --> 00:35:12,068
and go, "Well,
that's all it takes."
864
00:35:12,206 --> 00:35:14,034
"I'm just going to jump
on a plane to Detroit
865
00:35:14,172 --> 00:35:16,448
"and go find 8 Mile
and walk around,
866
00:35:16,551 --> 00:35:18,482
"and I can just
have the experience
867
00:35:18,586 --> 00:35:19,468
that they just showed me."
868
00:35:19,551 --> 00:35:21,551
I was in my early 20s
869
00:35:21,655 --> 00:35:23,724
when I started
working at Gilbert's.
870
00:35:23,862 --> 00:35:25,848
And I knew Eminem
worked there, obviously,
871
00:35:25,931 --> 00:35:29,172
so I was like, fuck it, I'll
go work where Eminem worked.
872
00:35:29,275 --> 00:35:30,689
Like, I always wanted to,
873
00:35:30,827 --> 00:35:33,503
so one more thing
closer to Eminem.
874
00:35:33,586 --> 00:35:35,896
And I stayed at
that bitch for...
875
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,641
for, like, 10 years,
876
00:35:37,724 --> 00:35:39,724
'cause I'm like, he's
going to come in.
877
00:35:41,241 --> 00:35:42,158
That's crazy.
878
00:35:42,241 --> 00:35:44,158
The whole
neighborhood's gone now.
879
00:35:44,241 --> 00:35:47,689
Me and Proof used to climb
this tree all the time.
880
00:35:47,793 --> 00:35:49,827
And we would sit up in the tree,
881
00:35:49,931 --> 00:35:51,434
and he would always
climb higher than me
882
00:35:51,517 --> 00:35:52,641
'cause he wasn't
afraid of heights.
883
00:35:52,724 --> 00:35:53,813
I was.
884
00:35:53,896 --> 00:35:56,413
Um, and we would just sit there
885
00:35:56,551 --> 00:35:58,931
and talk about, like,
what we was going to do
886
00:35:59,034 --> 00:36:00,882
once we made it as rappers.
887
00:36:00,965 --> 00:36:03,192
[dog barking]
888
00:36:03,275 --> 00:36:06,192
We shot here when the
house had been condemned,
889
00:36:06,275 --> 00:36:07,896
but it wasn't burnt down yet.
890
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,965
And, like, I don't
know if you've ever
891
00:36:10,068 --> 00:36:12,931
been to, like, a house, go
back when you were a kid...
892
00:36:13,034 --> 00:36:15,655
everything seems smaller.
893
00:36:15,793 --> 00:36:18,227
Bro, that motherfucker
was like, here to here,
894
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:20,020
you could touch the
living room walls.
895
00:36:20,103 --> 00:36:21,758
We tried to buy it, and the city
896
00:36:21,862 --> 00:36:23,068
had already condemned it.
897
00:36:23,172 --> 00:36:27,103
So they wouldn't sell it to us.
898
00:36:27,206 --> 00:36:29,399
Did it ever occur to
you that fans would
899
00:36:29,482 --> 00:36:31,848
come here and make a pilgrimage?
900
00:36:31,931 --> 00:36:34,137
It's cool that people care,
901
00:36:34,275 --> 00:36:39,537
but it's also weird,
still, 'cause you're like,
902
00:36:39,620 --> 00:36:41,448
but it's me, you
know what I'm saying?
903
00:36:41,551 --> 00:36:43,655
Like, why?
904
00:36:43,758 --> 00:36:46,172
It's really not
that big of a deal.
905
00:36:46,275 --> 00:36:48,620
When Em was blowing up,
906
00:36:48,724 --> 00:36:51,758
there was lots of kids
with white T-shirts
907
00:36:51,862 --> 00:36:53,275
and bleach blonde hair.
908
00:36:53,379 --> 00:36:55,572
But again, this might
be by Em's own doing.
909
00:36:55,655 --> 00:36:58,917
I mean, the videos, the
imagery that he put out,
910
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,172
it's this million-white-boy
army behind me, you know?
911
00:37:03,310 --> 00:37:04,344
Like, I am you.
912
00:37:04,448 --> 00:37:05,641
[Eminem's "The Real Slim Shady"]
913
00:37:05,724 --> 00:37:08,862
♪ May I have your
attention, please ♪
914
00:37:08,965 --> 00:37:12,551
♪ Will the real Slim
Shady please stand up ♪
915
00:37:12,655 --> 00:37:16,482
♪ I repeat, will the real
Slim Shady please stand up ♪
916
00:37:16,586 --> 00:37:18,641
♪ ♪
917
00:37:18,724 --> 00:37:23,089
I was at the MTV Awards
when Marshall came out
918
00:37:23,172 --> 00:37:24,862
and that gang of fucking dudes
919
00:37:24,965 --> 00:37:26,551
followed him up on stage.
920
00:37:26,655 --> 00:37:28,517
Everyone around me kind
of fucking locked in,
921
00:37:28,620 --> 00:37:30,310
like, what is... what's
going on right now?
922
00:37:30,413 --> 00:37:31,261
Who the fuck is that guy?
923
00:37:31,344 --> 00:37:33,827
It was hands-down like, yeah.
924
00:37:33,931 --> 00:37:36,068
Like, that dude right
there, he's... he's...
925
00:37:36,172 --> 00:37:38,827
he's fucking...
he's cooler than me.
926
00:37:38,965 --> 00:37:40,689
When Eminem came on the scene
927
00:37:40,793 --> 00:37:43,206
and when they seen the
bleach blonde hair,
928
00:37:43,310 --> 00:37:45,827
it kind of infected
the whole world.
929
00:37:45,931 --> 00:37:48,379
So many kids were dyeing
their hair yellow,
930
00:37:48,482 --> 00:37:50,310
dressing in, you
know, baggy clothes.
931
00:37:50,413 --> 00:37:51,689
And I saw it.
932
00:37:51,793 --> 00:37:53,827
So, you know, I had guy
friends that were like, oh,
933
00:37:53,931 --> 00:37:55,206
I'm Slim Shady, you know?
934
00:37:55,310 --> 00:37:56,630
And I'm just like,
no, you're not.
935
00:37:59,172 --> 00:38:00,985
It was who they were now.
936
00:38:01,068 --> 00:38:02,710
It wasn't like, hey, I'm going
to go down to Times Square.
937
00:38:02,793 --> 00:38:04,261
I'm gonna... you know,
I'm gonna pay homage
938
00:38:04,344 --> 00:38:05,468
to Em and, you
know, do my thing.
939
00:38:05,551 --> 00:38:07,310
It was like, I'm becoming him.
940
00:38:19,517 --> 00:38:22,103
Nine years old, you know?
941
00:38:22,206 --> 00:38:24,965
One day I wanted to...
to make my hair blonde.
942
00:38:57,413 --> 00:39:00,103
You feel like a real Shady.
943
00:39:06,344 --> 00:39:08,551
Every people who
look at you, they...
944
00:39:08,655 --> 00:39:13,793
they know what is about,
you know, Shady, man.
945
00:39:16,172 --> 00:39:20,034
Eminem is absolutely like
an unwilling cult leader.
946
00:39:20,172 --> 00:39:24,172
He's someone who did not
want to take up that position
947
00:39:24,310 --> 00:39:27,620
but has been, to no
fault of his own,
948
00:39:27,724 --> 00:39:29,310
kind of thrust into it.
949
00:39:29,413 --> 00:39:31,000
Eminem, ladies and gentlemen.
950
00:39:31,137 --> 00:39:35,448
[cheering]
951
00:39:35,586 --> 00:39:36,655
-Big day.
-Right.
952
00:39:36,758 --> 00:39:38,020
-New album is out.
-A really big day.
953
00:39:38,103 --> 00:39:39,089
-Yeah.
-Really big day.
954
00:39:39,172 --> 00:39:40,399
"Mathers LP" is out.
955
00:39:40,482 --> 00:39:41,793
Now, that's your real name.
956
00:39:41,896 --> 00:39:42,985
-Is, uh... does that mean...
-It's my real name.
957
00:39:43,068 --> 00:39:44,158
That this is sort
of more of, like,
958
00:39:44,241 --> 00:39:46,275
reflective of who
you are? Or, uh...
959
00:39:46,379 --> 00:39:47,689
I think so.
960
00:39:47,793 --> 00:39:50,137
I think I got kind of
personal on this album,
961
00:39:50,241 --> 00:39:51,724
and just basically I just wanted
962
00:39:51,827 --> 00:39:53,848
to let people know that this
is... this is the real me.
963
00:39:53,931 --> 00:39:55,572
This is all jokes aside,
you know what I'm saying?
964
00:39:55,655 --> 00:39:57,261
There's a lot of songs
on the album that
965
00:39:57,344 --> 00:39:58,917
are like that, that
are like, you know,
966
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,227
more serious than
the first album.
967
00:40:00,310 --> 00:40:01,606
Right.
968
00:40:01,689 --> 00:40:02,586
Actually, we're listening
to it right now,
969
00:40:02,689 --> 00:40:03,862
a track called "Stan."
970
00:40:03,965 --> 00:40:04,931
It's the third
track on the album.
971
00:40:05,034 --> 00:40:05,882
What's... what's all this about?
972
00:40:05,965 --> 00:40:07,379
Explain this to me.
973
00:40:07,482 --> 00:40:09,620
Um, basically, it's just
about crazy fan mail
974
00:40:09,758 --> 00:40:11,344
that I get from people.
975
00:40:11,448 --> 00:40:14,434
And it's about, like, a
kid who is really sick,
976
00:40:14,517 --> 00:40:15,689
you know what I'm saying?
977
00:40:15,827 --> 00:40:18,089
And... and takes everything
that I say literally.
978
00:40:18,172 --> 00:40:20,744
What inspired me to
write "Stan" first
979
00:40:20,827 --> 00:40:23,227
was when I got the beat
980
00:40:23,310 --> 00:40:25,103
and it had the
Dido sample in it.
981
00:40:25,206 --> 00:40:27,275
"But your picture on
my wall reminds me
982
00:40:27,379 --> 00:40:28,655
that it's not so bad."
983
00:40:28,793 --> 00:40:31,344
I felt like, that is...
984
00:40:31,448 --> 00:40:35,103
that line right there,
that's LL Cool J to me.
985
00:40:35,206 --> 00:40:38,448
Like, LL Cool J was
one of the rappers
986
00:40:38,551 --> 00:40:41,572
who helped get me through
so much childhood shit.
987
00:40:41,655 --> 00:40:43,744
I kept thinking,
like, oh, my God,
988
00:40:43,827 --> 00:40:46,206
am I LL Cool J to somebody else?
989
00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:47,931
Instantly, I was
like, yo, this has
990
00:40:48,034 --> 00:40:49,862
got to be about,
like, an obsessed fan
991
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,655
who's taking my shit too
literal, and slow down.
992
00:40:53,758 --> 00:40:55,482
I'm not... I'm just Marshall.
993
00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:56,940
[thunder rumbling,
rain pattering]
994
00:40:57,034 --> 00:41:00,434
Like, I'm not your
fucking savior.
995
00:41:00,517 --> 00:41:04,034
[thunder crashes]
996
00:41:04,172 --> 00:41:08,586
♪
997
00:41:08,689 --> 00:41:11,965
[thunder rumbling, crashing]
998
00:41:21,275 --> 00:41:22,434
Let me in!
999
00:41:22,517 --> 00:41:24,241
[knocking]
1000
00:41:24,344 --> 00:41:25,813
What?
1001
00:41:25,896 --> 00:41:27,724
Stanley, what are you
doing to yourself?
1002
00:41:27,827 --> 00:41:29,862
What, the hair?
You don't like it?
1003
00:41:29,965 --> 00:41:31,482
-Stanley!
-You like it?
1004
00:41:31,586 --> 00:41:33,000
Stanley! Don't...
1005
00:41:33,103 --> 00:41:36,296
Don't call me that, OK?
1006
00:41:36,379 --> 00:41:37,448
Don't call me that.
1007
00:41:37,551 --> 00:41:38,951
Don't you think you're
taking this too far?
1008
00:41:39,034 --> 00:41:40,261
-Stanley.
-Here.
1009
00:41:40,344 --> 00:41:41,606
Stanley!
1010
00:41:41,689 --> 00:41:42,779
I was listening to the lyrics.
1011
00:41:42,862 --> 00:41:44,123
I was just like,
this is amazing.
1012
00:41:44,206 --> 00:41:45,882
I mean, I just think
his lyrics on that song
1013
00:41:45,965 --> 00:41:47,379
are absolutely
brilliant, you know?
1014
00:41:47,517 --> 00:41:50,296
He's, to me, the
ultimate storyteller.
1015
00:41:50,379 --> 00:41:51,951
[Eminem's "Stan"]
1016
00:41:52,034 --> 00:41:54,448
♪ And I can't see at all ♪
1017
00:41:54,551 --> 00:41:58,068
♪ Even if I could,
it'd all be gray ♪
1018
00:41:58,206 --> 00:42:00,379
♪ But your picture on my wall ♪
1019
00:42:00,517 --> 00:42:04,241
♪ It reminds me that
it's not so bad ♪
1020
00:42:04,344 --> 00:42:06,089
♪ It's not so bad ♪
1021
00:42:06,172 --> 00:42:08,710
♪ Dear Slim, I wrote you,
but you still ain't calling ♪
1022
00:42:08,793 --> 00:42:10,710
♪ I left my cell, my
pager, and my home phone ♪
1023
00:42:10,793 --> 00:42:11,931
♪ At the bottom ♪
1024
00:42:12,068 --> 00:42:13,468
♪ I sent two letters
back in autumn ♪
1025
00:42:13,551 --> 00:42:14,793
♪ You must not have got 'em ♪
1026
00:42:14,931 --> 00:42:16,192
♪ There probably was a problem ♪
1027
00:42:16,275 --> 00:42:17,635
♪ At the post office
or something ♪
1028
00:42:17,724 --> 00:42:19,054
♪ Sometimes I
scribble addresses ♪
1029
00:42:19,137 --> 00:42:20,413
♪ Too sloppy when I jot 'em ♪
1030
00:42:20,517 --> 00:42:22,675
♪ But anyways, fuck it,
what's been up, man ♪
1031
00:42:22,758 --> 00:42:23,896
♪ How's your daughter ♪
1032
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,054
♪ My girlfriend's pregnant too ♪
1033
00:42:25,137 --> 00:42:26,517
♪ I'm 'bout to be a father ♪
1034
00:42:26,620 --> 00:42:28,399
♪ If I have a daughter,
guess what I'ma call her ♪
1035
00:42:28,482 --> 00:42:30,000
♪ I'ma name her Bonnie ♪
1036
00:42:30,103 --> 00:42:32,448
♪ I read about your Uncle
Ronnie too, I'm sorry ♪
1037
00:42:32,586 --> 00:42:34,537
♪ I had a friend kill
himself over some bitch ♪
1038
00:42:34,620 --> 00:42:35,931
♪ Who didn't want him ♪
1039
00:42:36,034 --> 00:42:37,793
♪ I know you probably
hear this every day ♪
1040
00:42:37,931 --> 00:42:39,517
♪ But I'm your biggest fan ♪
1041
00:42:39,620 --> 00:42:41,848
♪ I even got the underground
shit that you did with Skam ♪
1042
00:42:41,931 --> 00:42:43,620
♪ I got a room full
of your posters ♪
1043
00:42:43,758 --> 00:42:45,068
♪ And your pictures, man ♪
1044
00:42:45,172 --> 00:42:46,813
♪ I like the shit you
did with Rawkus too ♪
1045
00:42:46,896 --> 00:42:48,192
♪ That shit was phat ♪
1046
00:42:48,275 --> 00:42:49,965
♪ Anyways, I hope
you get this, man ♪
1047
00:42:50,103 --> 00:42:51,448
♪ Hit me back just to chat ♪
1048
00:42:51,551 --> 00:42:53,172
♪ Truly yours,
your biggest fan ♪
1049
00:42:53,275 --> 00:42:54,448
♪ This is Stan ♪
1050
00:42:54,586 --> 00:42:57,896
♪ My tea's gone cold,
I'm wondering why ♪
1051
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,793
I used to write
him all the time.
1052
00:42:59,931 --> 00:43:01,917
I was like, hi, I'm
your biggest fan.
1053
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,034
I love you so much.
1054
00:43:04,172 --> 00:43:06,517
[laughs] When I
was like, 12, yeah.
1055
00:43:06,620 --> 00:43:08,068
Yeah, I wrote him a letter.
1056
00:43:08,172 --> 00:43:11,206
And then later on, I
would write and be like,
1057
00:43:11,310 --> 00:43:13,241
your music is saving my life.
1058
00:43:13,344 --> 00:43:15,000
Thank you for everything.
1059
00:43:15,103 --> 00:43:17,724
I actually took a few hours
writing all the things
1060
00:43:17,862 --> 00:43:22,344
I wanted to, but I thought
it was, I don't know,
1061
00:43:22,482 --> 00:43:24,296
like too much like "Stan."
1062
00:43:24,379 --> 00:43:27,744
I wrote one email
about 10 years ago.
1063
00:43:27,827 --> 00:43:29,034
I haven't heard nothing back,
1064
00:43:29,137 --> 00:43:30,468
but I'm still got
my fingers crossed.
1065
00:43:30,551 --> 00:43:32,482
It's only been 10
years. We good.
1066
00:43:32,586 --> 00:43:34,689
♪ Dear Slim, you still
ain't called or wrote ♪
1067
00:43:34,793 --> 00:43:35,689
♪ I hope you have a chance ♪
1068
00:43:35,793 --> 00:43:37,172
♪ I ain't mad ♪
1069
00:43:37,310 --> 00:43:38,951
♪ I just think it's fucked
up you don't answer fans ♪
1070
00:43:39,034 --> 00:43:40,365
♪ If you didn't
want to talk to me ♪
1071
00:43:40,448 --> 00:43:42,344
♪ Outside the concert,
you didn't have to ♪
1072
00:43:42,448 --> 00:43:44,503
♪ But you could have signed
an autograph for Matthew ♪
1073
00:43:44,586 --> 00:43:45,551
♪ That's my little
brother, man ♪
1074
00:43:45,655 --> 00:43:47,000
♪ He's only six years old ♪
1075
00:43:47,103 --> 00:43:49,068
♪ We waited in the
blistering cold for you ♪
1076
00:43:49,172 --> 00:43:51,000
♪ For four hours and
you just said no ♪
1077
00:43:51,137 --> 00:43:52,296
♪ That's pretty shitty, man ♪
1078
00:43:52,379 --> 00:43:53,827
♪ You're like his fucking idol ♪
1079
00:43:53,965 --> 00:43:55,089
♪ He wants to be
just like you, man ♪
1080
00:43:55,172 --> 00:43:56,655
♪ He likes you more than I do ♪
1081
00:43:56,758 --> 00:44:01,103
Stan, he's a really, really,
really hardcore fan of Eminem,
1082
00:44:01,206 --> 00:44:02,710
and he believes he's in, like,
1083
00:44:02,793 --> 00:44:06,241
a parasocial
relationship with Eminem.
1084
00:44:06,344 --> 00:44:09,448
Parasocial relationship
is a one-way
1085
00:44:09,551 --> 00:44:13,034
mediated relationship where
it's like, there is Eminem.
1086
00:44:13,137 --> 00:44:14,551
He's on stage performing.
1087
00:44:14,655 --> 00:44:16,020
He's in music videos.
1088
00:44:16,103 --> 00:44:19,503
And you start to feel
like you know this person.
1089
00:44:19,586 --> 00:44:21,241
♪ Bad ♪
1090
00:44:21,344 --> 00:44:23,848
Over time, parasocial
relationships,
1091
00:44:23,931 --> 00:44:27,710
they increase in
psychological intensity.
1092
00:44:27,793 --> 00:44:30,724
They can develop into what's
called identification.
1093
00:44:30,827 --> 00:44:33,192
You become so absorbed,
1094
00:44:33,275 --> 00:44:36,241
you start to take
on his attitudes
1095
00:44:36,344 --> 00:44:37,793
and beliefs and behaviors.
1096
00:44:37,931 --> 00:44:39,985
♪ I can relate to what
you're saying in your songs ♪
1097
00:44:40,068 --> 00:44:41,330
♪ So when I have a shitty day ♪
1098
00:44:41,413 --> 00:44:43,020
♪ I drift away and put 'em on ♪
1099
00:44:43,103 --> 00:44:44,275
♪ Because I don't ♪
1100
00:44:44,413 --> 00:44:46,330
After that you get to
what's called worship...
1101
00:44:46,413 --> 00:44:49,068
♪ I even got a tattoo of
your name across the chest ♪
1102
00:44:49,172 --> 00:44:51,068
Is when you treat
the media persona
1103
00:44:51,172 --> 00:44:52,896
like a godlike figure.
1104
00:44:53,034 --> 00:44:54,675
It is the less healthy place
1105
00:44:54,758 --> 00:44:56,330
you want to be on the spectrum.
1106
00:44:56,413 --> 00:44:57,985
♪ See, everything
you say is real ♪
1107
00:44:58,068 --> 00:44:59,848
♪ And I respect you
'cause you tell it ♪
1108
00:44:59,931 --> 00:45:02,689
♪ My girlfriend's jealous
'cause I talk about you 24/7 ♪
1109
00:45:02,793 --> 00:45:04,000
I mean, I could relate.
1110
00:45:04,137 --> 00:45:05,517
I was like, yeah, that happens.
1111
00:45:05,655 --> 00:45:07,793
Really awesome
fans that can get,
1112
00:45:07,896 --> 00:45:10,137
you know... you're
like their best friend,
1113
00:45:10,275 --> 00:45:11,517
and you don't even know it.
1114
00:45:11,655 --> 00:45:12,744
♪ Sincerely yours, Stan ♪
1115
00:45:12,827 --> 00:45:14,744
♪ PS, we should
be together too ♪
1116
00:45:14,827 --> 00:45:17,744
♪ My tea's gone cold,
I'm wondering why ♪
1117
00:45:17,827 --> 00:45:20,000
The connotations from the song
1118
00:45:20,137 --> 00:45:23,310
are somebody that
is a crazy fan.
1119
00:45:23,413 --> 00:45:25,965
It's probably how a
lot of people see me,
1120
00:45:26,068 --> 00:45:28,310
I would imagine.
1121
00:45:28,413 --> 00:45:30,917
♪ Dear Mr. I'm Too Good
to Call or Write My Fans ♪
1122
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,000
♪ This will be the last
package I ever send your ass ♪
1123
00:45:34,103 --> 00:45:35,606
♪ It's been six months
and still no word ♪
1124
00:45:35,689 --> 00:45:37,089
♪ I don't deserve it ♪
1125
00:45:37,172 --> 00:45:38,779
♪ I know you got my
last two letters ♪
1126
00:45:38,862 --> 00:45:40,123
♪ I wrote the addresses
on 'em perfect ♪
1127
00:45:40,206 --> 00:45:42,137
Reaching out, reaching
out, and no answer.
1128
00:45:42,241 --> 00:45:46,310
I could see how that
could affect someone.
1129
00:45:46,448 --> 00:45:48,310
♪ Hey, Slim, I drank
a fifth of vodka ♪
1130
00:45:48,413 --> 00:45:49,931
♪ You dare me to drive ♪
1131
00:45:50,034 --> 00:45:51,054
♪ You know that song
by Phil Collins ♪
1132
00:45:51,137 --> 00:45:52,261
That's extreme.
1133
00:45:52,344 --> 00:45:55,089
But then at the same
time, I was so someone
1134
00:45:55,172 --> 00:45:56,848
that was like, well,
why isn't one of my...
1135
00:45:56,931 --> 00:45:58,572
why isn't it one of my
letters he's reading?
1136
00:45:58,655 --> 00:45:59,827
♪ That's kinda how this is ♪
1137
00:45:59,965 --> 00:46:01,158
♪ You could have rescued
me from drowning ♪
1138
00:46:01,241 --> 00:46:02,931
It was one of
those moments where
1139
00:46:03,034 --> 00:46:05,689
I had to look in the
mirror and be like, wow,
1140
00:46:05,793 --> 00:46:07,641
am I one of these crazy Stans?
1141
00:46:07,724 --> 00:46:09,241
♪ Well, gotta go ♪
1142
00:46:09,344 --> 00:46:10,365
♪ I'm almost at the bridge now ♪
1143
00:46:10,448 --> 00:46:11,724
♪ Oh, shit, I forgot ♪
1144
00:46:11,862 --> 00:46:13,606
♪ How am I supposed to
send this shit out ♪
1145
00:46:13,689 --> 00:46:16,689
[tires screeching, screaming]
1146
00:46:24,965 --> 00:46:27,068
I was shocked.
1147
00:46:27,172 --> 00:46:30,413
I mean, my first reaction
was, did this actually happen?
1148
00:46:30,517 --> 00:46:32,296
I don't think he's
a real person,
1149
00:46:32,379 --> 00:46:34,551
but it's definitely
possible that there's
1150
00:46:34,655 --> 00:46:36,296
somebody out there like that.
1151
00:46:36,379 --> 00:46:39,172
[somber music]
1152
00:46:39,310 --> 00:46:45,206
♪
1153
00:46:45,310 --> 00:46:47,089
I think there are people
out there that have
1154
00:46:47,172 --> 00:46:52,020
that type of mental obsession
over another person,
1155
00:46:52,103 --> 00:46:55,123
and I believe that it does
come from a real place.
1156
00:46:55,206 --> 00:46:57,675
Whether it is exaggerated or not
1157
00:46:57,758 --> 00:46:59,551
is all depending on the creator.
1158
00:46:59,655 --> 00:47:05,000
♪ ♪
1159
00:47:05,103 --> 00:47:08,965
But I believe it is
coming from a real place.
1160
00:47:09,103 --> 00:47:13,793
If it wasn't a real person
who actually did do that...
1161
00:47:13,896 --> 00:47:17,931
♪ ♪
1162
00:47:18,068 --> 00:47:22,586
It's a message to
all of his fame.
1163
00:47:22,689 --> 00:47:25,724
[engine rumbling]
1164
00:47:28,413 --> 00:47:30,413
[vehicle rumbles]
1165
00:47:32,551 --> 00:47:33,793
Hi.
1166
00:47:43,620 --> 00:47:47,862
But the word "Stan"
changed with the time.
1167
00:47:47,965 --> 00:47:52,931
Stan, in 2024, it's
being crazy of something.
1168
00:47:53,068 --> 00:47:55,793
Like, very, very crazy.
1169
00:47:55,896 --> 00:47:57,931
Like, really, really crazy.
1170
00:48:12,931 --> 00:48:14,931
I never killed my wife.
1171
00:48:16,620 --> 00:48:19,000
I've never been crazy like him.
1172
00:48:20,172 --> 00:48:23,517
I don't have a wife, by the
way, but I'm just saying.
1173
00:48:29,620 --> 00:48:32,434
Well, so...
1174
00:48:32,517 --> 00:48:34,448
OK, so you guys
think this about me.
1175
00:48:34,551 --> 00:48:36,000
That's fine.
1176
00:48:38,827 --> 00:48:40,448
Not because I don't want to,
1177
00:48:40,551 --> 00:48:44,503
but because it
was too big to me.
1178
00:48:44,586 --> 00:48:48,068
I had and I still have a dream,
1179
00:48:48,172 --> 00:48:52,241
is to travel and
discover Detroit.
1180
00:48:52,344 --> 00:48:58,344
Because I grew up with
Eminem, so I wanted to...
1181
00:48:58,448 --> 00:49:03,103
to know and to understand
where Eminem came from.
1182
00:49:03,206 --> 00:49:09,068
So my family thought that
1183
00:49:09,172 --> 00:49:10,793
that was all bullshit,
1184
00:49:10,896 --> 00:49:13,192
that I spent my
money for nothing.
1185
00:49:13,275 --> 00:49:15,620
But you know, when you're
passionate about something,
1186
00:49:15,724 --> 00:49:19,192
just do your dream.
1187
00:49:19,275 --> 00:49:20,848
That's it.
1188
00:49:20,931 --> 00:49:23,655
[indistinct chatter]
1189
00:49:57,310 --> 00:49:58,586
[Eminem's "Rap God"]
1190
00:49:58,689 --> 00:50:01,448
♪ I'm beginning to feel
like a rap god, rap god ♪
1191
00:50:14,724 --> 00:50:16,379
How do you know
Eminem's not here?
1192
00:50:27,586 --> 00:50:30,620
[playing tune on keyboard]
1193
00:50:54,103 --> 00:50:56,758
Because I was back in Paris
1194
00:50:56,896 --> 00:50:58,931
after a beautiful
week in Detroit.
1195
00:50:59,068 --> 00:51:00,586
I cried.
1196
00:51:16,137 --> 00:51:20,779
♪ ♪
1197
00:51:20,862 --> 00:51:24,206
If "Stan" sort of
showed mainstream people
1198
00:51:24,310 --> 00:51:27,572
who didn't understand how
powerful a rap song could be,
1199
00:51:27,655 --> 00:51:29,137
if "Stan" did that to them...
1200
00:51:29,241 --> 00:51:31,172
[cheers and applause]
1201
00:51:31,310 --> 00:51:33,137
[pensive music]
1202
00:51:33,241 --> 00:51:37,296
Then "8 Mile" did that on a
much more mainstream scale
1203
00:51:37,379 --> 00:51:39,655
across all swaths of culture.
1204
00:51:39,793 --> 00:51:45,172
♪
1205
00:51:45,275 --> 00:51:46,434
[banging]
1206
00:51:46,517 --> 00:51:48,793
He was a global phenomenon.
1207
00:51:48,896 --> 00:51:50,296
How are you feeling?
1208
00:51:50,379 --> 00:51:52,482
-I feel good.
-You feel good?
1209
00:51:52,586 --> 00:51:53,482
Yeah.
1210
00:51:53,586 --> 00:51:55,896
[tense music]
1211
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,123
All right, next up is
my boy Bunny Rabbit.
1212
00:51:58,206 --> 00:51:59,517
[crowd booing]
1213
00:51:59,655 --> 00:52:01,848
He's a genius, man, a
motherfucking genius.
1214
00:52:01,931 --> 00:52:02,813
DJ, kick it.
1215
00:52:02,896 --> 00:52:05,620
[scratching record]
1216
00:52:05,758 --> 00:52:07,482
All: Choke, choke,
choke, choke, choke,
1217
00:52:07,586 --> 00:52:09,931
choke, choke, choke, choke!
1218
00:52:10,034 --> 00:52:12,413
I believe what they did
with "8 Mile" was amazing,
1219
00:52:12,551 --> 00:52:14,103
the way that they loosely based
1220
00:52:14,206 --> 00:52:17,330
a lot of things on his life.
1221
00:52:17,413 --> 00:52:19,413
And it wasn't full full-fledged,
1222
00:52:19,517 --> 00:52:21,310
this is what happened, but...
1223
00:52:21,413 --> 00:52:23,931
so it keeps me excited
because my imagination
1224
00:52:24,034 --> 00:52:25,896
starts going like, all
right, so what was real?
1225
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:26,896
What wasn't real?
1226
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,675
Is that story true or not?
1227
00:52:28,758 --> 00:52:30,330
Did that really happen when
they were in the parking lot
1228
00:52:30,413 --> 00:52:32,275
in the shelter?
1229
00:52:32,379 --> 00:52:35,068
Yo, that's like one of the
best movies of all time,
1230
00:52:35,172 --> 00:52:37,675
if you're a rapper, 'cause
it wasn't over the top.
1231
00:52:37,758 --> 00:52:39,413
It seemed like real-world shit,
1232
00:52:39,517 --> 00:52:41,241
going through it with his mom.
1233
00:52:41,344 --> 00:52:42,399
What are you doing
with your life
1234
00:52:42,482 --> 00:52:44,448
that's so great, Rabbit?
1235
00:52:44,551 --> 00:52:45,951
Freestyling in the
car with Proof.
1236
00:52:46,068 --> 00:52:48,365
♪ A 1928 Delta ♪
1237
00:52:48,448 --> 00:52:50,985
♪ This shit won't even
get me to the shelter ♪
1238
00:52:51,068 --> 00:52:52,158
Breaking up with his girlfriend,
1239
00:52:52,241 --> 00:52:53,365
all this extra shit.
1240
00:52:53,448 --> 00:52:54,330
Like, that was real-world shit.
1241
00:52:54,413 --> 00:52:56,034
[blows raspberry]
1242
00:52:56,137 --> 00:52:59,620
Him showing a glimpse
into what he went through
1243
00:52:59,758 --> 00:53:02,655
right before he got
famous, it showed the world
1244
00:53:02,758 --> 00:53:06,862
that it's like, hey, I
come from this background,
1245
00:53:06,965 --> 00:53:08,965
but it doesn't define me.
1246
00:53:09,068 --> 00:53:10,448
[grunts]
1247
00:53:10,551 --> 00:53:13,827
It is who I am, but I am
so much more than that.
1248
00:53:13,931 --> 00:53:15,689
In my mind, we're connected.
1249
00:53:15,827 --> 00:53:17,572
In one way or another,
in this universe,
1250
00:53:17,655 --> 00:53:18,710
there's a connection.
1251
00:53:18,793 --> 00:53:20,482
Yo, you... you're me.
1252
00:53:20,620 --> 00:53:21,779
You're a regular dude.
1253
00:53:21,862 --> 00:53:23,917
This is not lights,
camera, action.
1254
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,482
This is Marshall Mathers,
and I followed the story.
1255
00:53:27,620 --> 00:53:29,434
And most parts, I
lived the story.
1256
00:53:29,517 --> 00:53:32,172
It enhanced my
fandom of him because
1257
00:53:32,310 --> 00:53:35,103
I just saw how relatable he was.
1258
00:53:35,206 --> 00:53:37,724
And I didn't have, like,
a male figure in my family
1259
00:53:37,827 --> 00:53:40,931
or, you know, in my
household to look up to,
1260
00:53:41,034 --> 00:53:44,123
and I really looked up to him.
1261
00:53:44,206 --> 00:53:48,779
"8 Mile" did the most to
explain Eminem to the world.
1262
00:53:48,862 --> 00:53:51,572
There were all these critics
who were anti-Eminem.
1263
00:53:51,655 --> 00:53:53,399
Maureen Dowd, one of them
at "The New York Times,"
1264
00:53:53,482 --> 00:53:55,000
she had a bunch of
columns, you know,
1265
00:53:55,137 --> 00:53:57,227
saying he was a misogynist
and all the other things
1266
00:53:57,310 --> 00:53:58,744
that he was controversial for.
1267
00:53:58,827 --> 00:54:01,620
And then after "8
Mile," she had a column
1268
00:54:01,724 --> 00:54:05,123
about having a crush on
him and talking about him
1269
00:54:05,206 --> 00:54:06,586
with other soccer mommies
1270
00:54:06,724 --> 00:54:08,241
and listening to him at the gym.
1271
00:54:08,379 --> 00:54:10,689
It explains him to
a wider audience,
1272
00:54:10,827 --> 00:54:13,206
contextualizes him, but it also
1273
00:54:13,310 --> 00:54:15,172
is myth-making, for sure.
1274
00:54:15,275 --> 00:54:17,241
And I think that
to the fans that
1275
00:54:17,344 --> 00:54:19,586
aren't able to separate
the man from the myth,
1276
00:54:19,689 --> 00:54:21,551
this might as well
be a documentary.
1277
00:54:21,655 --> 00:54:23,241
My first guest is
a young man who is
1278
00:54:23,379 --> 00:54:25,586
on top of all of his games.
1279
00:54:25,724 --> 00:54:27,296
He's got the number-one
song in the country,
1280
00:54:27,379 --> 00:54:28,862
the number-one album
in the country,
1281
00:54:28,965 --> 00:54:31,482
and soon, the number-one
movie in the country.
1282
00:54:31,586 --> 00:54:33,606
Give it up for Eminem.
1283
00:54:33,689 --> 00:54:36,206
[cheering]
1284
00:54:36,310 --> 00:54:39,068
And then it's such chaos
out there that unfortunately
1285
00:54:39,172 --> 00:54:41,172
we're going to have
to shut the shades,
1286
00:54:41,275 --> 00:54:43,689
but it's a real
sight to be seen.
1287
00:54:43,827 --> 00:54:45,689
In the history of
MTV, I have never
1288
00:54:45,827 --> 00:54:47,413
seen anything quite like it.
1289
00:54:47,517 --> 00:54:48,779
I remember being in the theater
1290
00:54:48,862 --> 00:54:50,848
that first night watching
that, going, "Fuck, man."
1291
00:54:50,931 --> 00:54:53,158
"Now, that's an opening
weekend for a fucking guy
1292
00:54:53,241 --> 00:54:54,586
who's not a movie star."
1293
00:54:54,724 --> 00:54:58,296
He just became a
movie star like that.
1294
00:54:58,379 --> 00:54:59,503
The movie is out.
1295
00:54:59,586 --> 00:55:01,241
-How you feeling?
-Good.
1296
00:55:01,379 --> 00:55:02,344
Yeah?
1297
00:55:02,448 --> 00:55:04,227
You're a little overwhelmed?
1298
00:55:04,310 --> 00:55:06,241
A lot overwhelmed, but, um...
1299
00:55:06,344 --> 00:55:09,379
[cheers and applause]
1300
00:55:12,275 --> 00:55:13,620
Proud too.
1301
00:55:13,724 --> 00:55:15,054
-I'm proud too, you know?
-Yeah.
1302
00:55:15,137 --> 00:55:16,399
I'm proud and I'm... I'm happy.
1303
00:55:16,482 --> 00:55:17,710
I'm excited.
1304
00:55:17,793 --> 00:55:19,158
You know, if it
wasn't for these fans,
1305
00:55:19,241 --> 00:55:20,793
I wouldn't have
got to this level
1306
00:55:20,931 --> 00:55:24,241
to be enabled to do my own
movies and things like that,
1307
00:55:24,344 --> 00:55:27,310
and have this kind of power
and this kind of control,
1308
00:55:27,413 --> 00:55:28,537
and I'm loving it.
1309
00:55:28,620 --> 00:55:30,241
Yo, let me ask you this...
1310
00:55:30,344 --> 00:55:32,931
I was just looking up some
stuff about Eminem online,
1311
00:55:33,034 --> 00:55:35,793
and this girl was
talking about how
1312
00:55:35,896 --> 00:55:37,882
she apparently was spending time
1313
00:55:37,965 --> 00:55:39,413
with him while he was on tour.
1314
00:55:39,517 --> 00:55:41,310
Like, some fan
girl he picked up.
1315
00:55:41,413 --> 00:55:44,655
And I thought at first that
that was real, so I'm like,
1316
00:55:44,758 --> 00:55:47,655
did somebody really put
that... like, that hap...
1317
00:55:47,758 --> 00:55:49,744
somebody put that
out? That's insane.
1318
00:55:49,827 --> 00:55:52,241
Then when I scrolled
down to the end,
1319
00:55:52,344 --> 00:55:54,448
it said fan fiction.
1320
00:55:54,551 --> 00:55:57,448
[discordant music]
1321
00:55:57,551 --> 00:55:59,793
♪ ♪
1322
00:55:59,896 --> 00:56:02,606
The next thing I knew,
that was all I was reading,
1323
00:56:02,689 --> 00:56:05,034
'cause it was kind of addictive.
1324
00:56:05,137 --> 00:56:10,862
♪ ♪
1325
00:56:10,965 --> 00:56:13,779
And after, like, about three
or four months of reading it,
1326
00:56:13,862 --> 00:56:17,689
I was like, why don't
I write one myself?
1327
00:56:19,448 --> 00:56:23,000
I just imagined what his
head space would be like.
1328
00:56:24,793 --> 00:56:26,744
It's very presumptuous
of me to say,
1329
00:56:26,827 --> 00:56:28,434
oh, I'm writing
this as Marshall,
1330
00:56:28,517 --> 00:56:30,434
even though it literally
says Marshall's point of view
1331
00:56:30,517 --> 00:56:31,793
when I write it.
1332
00:56:31,896 --> 00:56:33,482
But you know, it's
'cause it's fiction.
1333
00:56:33,620 --> 00:56:35,896
It's OK.
1334
00:56:36,034 --> 00:56:38,261
Do you feel like you
have an understanding
1335
00:56:38,344 --> 00:56:40,813
of who Marshall actually is?
1336
00:56:40,896 --> 00:56:42,744
It's kind of hard
to tell with Eminem
1337
00:56:42,827 --> 00:56:44,034
because he's like...
1338
00:56:44,137 --> 00:56:47,089
as much as he puts
personal shit in his songs,
1339
00:56:47,172 --> 00:56:49,606
he probably shows us only
what he wants us to see.
1340
00:56:49,689 --> 00:56:52,482
[upbeat music]
1341
00:56:52,620 --> 00:56:55,089
♪
1342
00:56:55,172 --> 00:56:56,399
What's up, ladies?
1343
00:56:56,482 --> 00:56:59,000
[cheering]
1344
00:56:59,103 --> 00:57:01,068
I was sharing a lot...
1345
00:57:01,172 --> 00:57:02,379
Aw.
1346
00:57:02,482 --> 00:57:04,551
And made it like a
fucking open book.
1347
00:57:04,655 --> 00:57:06,206
And then sometimes
you want to close
1348
00:57:06,310 --> 00:57:08,413
that book back a
little bit because
1349
00:57:08,517 --> 00:57:10,620
did you share too much?
1350
00:57:10,758 --> 00:57:11,882
What's up? I'm Marshall,
and I'm gonna to punch you
1351
00:57:11,965 --> 00:57:13,241
in the fucking throat.
1352
00:57:13,344 --> 00:57:15,413
Do you have anything
left to keep to yourself?
1353
00:57:15,517 --> 00:57:16,848
I can't fucking work like this.
1354
00:57:16,931 --> 00:57:18,192
You're stressing me out.
1355
00:57:18,275 --> 00:57:19,758
[door creaks]
1356
00:57:19,896 --> 00:57:21,586
"-" Before I was
famous, everything
1357
00:57:21,689 --> 00:57:23,758
"was moving in slow motion.
1358
00:57:23,896 --> 00:57:26,158
"Now it seems like
somebody has pressed
1359
00:57:26,241 --> 00:57:27,827
"the fucking fast
forward button,
1360
00:57:27,931 --> 00:57:30,068
"and my life just
seems to be rushing by.
1361
00:57:30,206 --> 00:57:33,137
It sometimes feels
like a strange movie."
1362
00:57:33,241 --> 00:57:34,793
I couldn't imagine
how jarring it is
1363
00:57:34,896 --> 00:57:39,848
to go from being where
he started out in 8 Mile
1364
00:57:39,931 --> 00:57:43,882
to the level of fame
and success and wealth
1365
00:57:43,965 --> 00:57:48,275
and confinement that comes
along with celebrity.
1366
00:57:48,379 --> 00:57:49,379
Unreal.
1367
00:57:49,482 --> 00:57:50,896
Hey, Em.
1368
00:57:51,034 --> 00:57:52,158
Don't... don't come
over here, man.
1369
00:57:52,241 --> 00:57:53,103
Hey, Em.
1370
00:57:53,241 --> 00:57:54,137
All right?
1371
00:57:54,241 --> 00:57:55,758
Hey, have a good concert.
1372
00:57:55,862 --> 00:57:58,413
The way that he talks
about fame in his music,
1373
00:57:58,517 --> 00:58:00,413
it's like he wishes
that he could just
1374
00:58:00,517 --> 00:58:03,931
go and be a normal person
and go to the store
1375
00:58:04,034 --> 00:58:05,399
and things like that.
1376
00:58:05,482 --> 00:58:06,951
And I think it feels
like an invasion.
1377
00:58:07,034 --> 00:58:08,448
Yo, what's up, Eminem?
1378
00:58:08,551 --> 00:58:09,620
So are you gonna...
1379
00:58:09,724 --> 00:58:10,965
Good to see you, man.
1380
00:58:11,068 --> 00:58:13,744
Every single day I'm on
the Eminem subreddit.
1381
00:58:13,827 --> 00:58:16,137
There is 800,000 Stans.
1382
00:58:16,241 --> 00:58:18,793
We have guys from
India and Pakistan,
1383
00:58:18,896 --> 00:58:22,137
and like, just all...
all over the world.
1384
00:58:22,275 --> 00:58:25,000
We theorize, and we go
back and forth, and we try
1385
00:58:25,103 --> 00:58:27,965
and, uh, figure out what
goes on in his daily life.
1386
00:58:28,103 --> 00:58:29,758
Would be really
cool to know, like,
1387
00:58:29,862 --> 00:58:32,227
does he go to the
gym in the morning?
1388
00:58:32,310 --> 00:58:34,310
Or does he play basketball,
1389
00:58:34,448 --> 00:58:36,206
or is he in the studio all day?
1390
00:58:36,310 --> 00:58:39,000
It feels incredibly
euphoric to me
1391
00:58:39,103 --> 00:58:42,261
because every post...
every post you go through
1392
00:58:42,344 --> 00:58:44,779
and every little thread
of information you get,
1393
00:58:44,862 --> 00:58:47,965
it gives you one step closer
to getting closer to the man.
1394
00:58:48,068 --> 00:58:49,275
[crowd shouting]
1395
00:58:49,413 --> 00:58:50,275
Em!
1396
00:58:50,379 --> 00:58:51,606
Em!
1397
00:58:51,689 --> 00:58:53,227
You can look at
your smartphone now
1398
00:58:53,310 --> 00:58:54,399
and look at social
media and feel like
1399
00:58:54,482 --> 00:58:56,827
you have a direct line
to these people now.
1400
00:58:56,965 --> 00:58:59,606
There's definitely
a very thin line
1401
00:58:59,689 --> 00:59:01,296
when you go from
that follow button,
1402
00:59:01,379 --> 00:59:03,468
and then all of a sudden,
you're following someone.
1403
00:59:03,551 --> 00:59:06,813
Conversely, I'm following them.
1404
00:59:06,896 --> 00:59:09,034
And it's like, I need
to know every new thing
1405
00:59:09,137 --> 00:59:12,172
about this person, and I
think that takes some people
1406
00:59:12,275 --> 00:59:14,689
down some dark roads.
1407
00:59:14,793 --> 00:59:17,379
I'm sure it feels like a prison,
1408
00:59:17,517 --> 00:59:21,034
where you can't go anywhere
without being recognized.
1409
00:59:21,172 --> 00:59:24,034
[ominous music]
1410
00:59:24,172 --> 00:59:31,206
♪
1411
00:59:36,206 --> 00:59:40,517
There's definitely a
shift of him becoming
1412
00:59:40,620 --> 00:59:42,724
a little bit more withdrawn
1413
00:59:42,862 --> 00:59:44,896
from all of the fame.
1414
01:00:19,275 --> 01:00:21,158
[projector whirring]
1415
01:00:21,241 --> 01:00:23,551
I live in that same area
where I do hear from people,
1416
01:00:23,655 --> 01:00:25,034
like, oh, my God,
Eminem moved here
1417
01:00:25,137 --> 01:00:26,123
and his address is this,
1418
01:00:26,206 --> 01:00:27,689
and oh, I was trick-or-treating,
1419
01:00:27,793 --> 01:00:29,206
and I went to his house.
1420
01:00:29,344 --> 01:00:33,758
And it's like he can't
even live normally.
1421
01:00:35,206 --> 01:00:37,985
I've always been like, oh,
I want to meet him so bad.
1422
01:00:38,068 --> 01:00:39,537
It's almost like a
double-edged sword,
1423
01:00:39,620 --> 01:00:41,572
because what would I do,
run up to him and be like,
1424
01:00:41,655 --> 01:00:42,931
oh, my God, Eminem?
1425
01:00:43,034 --> 01:00:45,413
And that's, like,
not what he wants.
1426
01:00:45,517 --> 01:00:47,261
But at the same time,
it's, like, all I want.
1427
01:00:47,344 --> 01:00:50,158
♪ ♪
1428
01:00:50,241 --> 01:00:52,034
I remember one
time me and Hailie
1429
01:00:52,137 --> 01:00:53,689
went to the mall in LA.
1430
01:00:53,793 --> 01:00:57,034
It was the last time I went
to the mall as me, right?
1431
01:00:57,137 --> 01:01:00,330
Like, not fucking disguised.
1432
01:01:00,413 --> 01:01:04,192
And, um, every store we
went in, we come out,
1433
01:01:04,275 --> 01:01:05,793
and there's another...
a bigger crowd
1434
01:01:05,931 --> 01:01:08,793
and a bigger crowd
and a bigger crowd.
1435
01:01:08,931 --> 01:01:11,192
And it got to the point
where I was like...
1436
01:01:11,275 --> 01:01:13,241
I picked her up, and
I'm like, come on,
1437
01:01:13,344 --> 01:01:14,965
kiddo, time to go, right?
1438
01:01:15,103 --> 01:01:18,413
And I'm walking, and
as I'm walking faster
1439
01:01:18,517 --> 01:01:19,848
and faster and faster,
they're walking
1440
01:01:19,931 --> 01:01:21,103
faster and faster and faster.
1441
01:01:21,241 --> 01:01:22,744
And I literally felt
like I was being chased
1442
01:01:22,827 --> 01:01:24,896
out the fucking mall.
1443
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:29,882
And that was one
of those moments
1444
01:01:29,965 --> 01:01:34,137
where I realized, like, my
life really has changed.
1445
01:01:34,275 --> 01:01:38,103
Like, I can't... I can't
do this anymore, right?
1446
01:01:38,206 --> 01:01:40,517
'Cause I got to protect my baby.
1447
01:01:40,620 --> 01:01:43,793
So that was a scary...
that was a scary moment,
1448
01:01:43,931 --> 01:01:45,020
and scary for her too.
1449
01:01:45,103 --> 01:01:46,813
I asked her. She... she
doesn't remember it.
1450
01:01:46,896 --> 01:01:47,985
She was too little
to remember it.
1451
01:01:48,068 --> 01:01:51,620
But I remember it, and
it was fucking crazy.
1452
01:02:01,344 --> 01:02:04,482
But people do not
realize how dangerous...
1453
01:02:07,862 --> 01:02:11,813
Some people who are
attracted to Eminem
1454
01:02:11,896 --> 01:02:14,517
might not be the
best-intentioned people
1455
01:02:14,620 --> 01:02:18,137
and who could be
aggressive or violent.
1456
01:02:18,241 --> 01:02:20,793
We've seen it with other
artists, who a super-fan
1457
01:02:20,896 --> 01:02:22,827
has, you know, come after them.
1458
01:02:22,965 --> 01:02:30,000
♪
1459
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,000
I definitely feared
for his safety.
1460
01:02:34,103 --> 01:02:35,296
Sometimes you get obsessive fans
1461
01:02:35,379 --> 01:02:37,344
that are mentally unstable.
1462
01:02:37,482 --> 01:02:40,931
♪
1463
01:02:41,034 --> 01:02:42,379
I'm protective of Eminem.
1464
01:02:42,482 --> 01:02:45,103
Oh, my God, if anything
happened to Em... oh, my God,
1465
01:02:45,206 --> 01:02:46,379
I'd come swinging.
1466
01:02:46,482 --> 01:02:49,448
♪ ♪
1467
01:02:49,551 --> 01:02:53,068
You just never know, within
this profession that we have,
1468
01:02:53,206 --> 01:02:55,275
if there's somebody
out there lurking
1469
01:02:55,379 --> 01:02:58,123
that's creating this
fantasy in their own head
1470
01:02:58,206 --> 01:03:01,848
because you're not
responding to them.
1471
01:03:01,931 --> 01:03:04,793
That's the scariest shit ever.
1472
01:03:04,896 --> 01:03:06,537
Following and tracking him
1473
01:03:06,620 --> 01:03:08,241
like he's not a regular person,
1474
01:03:08,344 --> 01:03:09,448
you're not a fan at all.
1475
01:03:16,724 --> 01:03:18,793
11 years of policing,
I've seen all kinds
1476
01:03:18,931 --> 01:03:20,103
of dark, twisty shit.
1477
01:03:20,241 --> 01:03:22,020
When you get that famous,
you can't talk to everybody.
1478
01:03:22,103 --> 01:03:24,054
You can't say hi to everybody.
You can't meet everybody.
1479
01:03:24,137 --> 01:03:27,882
And so I don't think that
this kid Stan got that.
1480
01:03:27,965 --> 01:03:30,572
If the Stan character
existed today,
1481
01:03:30,655 --> 01:03:32,103
he would certainly follow Eminem
1482
01:03:32,206 --> 01:03:35,310
on every platform,
maybe run a fan page,
1483
01:03:35,413 --> 01:03:37,310
definitely on Eminem Reddit.
1484
01:03:37,448 --> 01:03:40,310
Would be writing to
him on each of his
1485
01:03:40,413 --> 01:03:44,275
social media accounts every day.
1486
01:03:44,379 --> 01:03:46,744
With the song "Stan,"
it's almost like
1487
01:03:46,827 --> 01:03:50,227
a PSA to his fans, like,
please don't do this.
1488
01:03:50,310 --> 01:03:52,379
This is not what I want.
1489
01:03:58,068 --> 01:04:00,965
[dramatic music]
1490
01:04:01,068 --> 01:04:04,000
When I saw him in 2005's
Anger Management tour,
1491
01:04:04,103 --> 01:04:05,137
I was in college.
1492
01:04:05,241 --> 01:04:08,089
Came there to the
show with my friend.
1493
01:04:08,172 --> 01:04:09,862
[cheering]
1494
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:15,000
This is when he was touring
nationwide with D12...
1495
01:04:15,103 --> 01:04:16,917
Yeah, man, we out here
having a good time
1496
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,827
on this tour, so far, so good.
1497
01:04:18,931 --> 01:04:20,206
And with 50 Cent...
1498
01:04:20,344 --> 01:04:21,517
-50...
-No, don't tell me.
1499
01:04:21,620 --> 01:04:22,572
I know I did good.
1500
01:04:22,655 --> 01:04:24,068
[laughter]
1501
01:04:24,172 --> 01:04:26,965
And with Lil Jon and
the East Side Boyz.
1502
01:04:27,068 --> 01:04:28,551
We out, bitch!
1503
01:04:28,655 --> 01:04:32,000
Which to this day has
been one of the best
1504
01:04:32,103 --> 01:04:34,206
tours that I've ever seen.
1505
01:04:34,344 --> 01:04:36,724
The atmosphere of
touring and the partying
1506
01:04:36,827 --> 01:04:39,137
and getting up in the morning
and catching the flights
1507
01:04:39,241 --> 01:04:40,985
and the plane and the jet lag
1508
01:04:41,068 --> 01:04:43,448
and riding the bus and
not being able to sleep,
1509
01:04:43,551 --> 01:04:44,551
it's hard.
1510
01:04:44,655 --> 01:04:46,779
It ends up running you down.
1511
01:04:46,862 --> 01:04:48,275
We're done in Detroit.
1512
01:04:48,379 --> 01:04:49,482
Europe next.
1513
01:04:49,586 --> 01:04:50,827
Wow.
1514
01:04:50,931 --> 01:04:53,641
It's almost like I have
to get off the road
1515
01:04:53,724 --> 01:04:57,482
every now and then and take
a break, or I'll go crazy.
1516
01:04:57,586 --> 01:05:00,586
[somber music]
1517
01:05:00,689 --> 01:05:03,068
♪ ♪
1518
01:05:03,172 --> 01:05:05,848
I was supposed to be going
to see him in Manchester,
1519
01:05:05,931 --> 01:05:07,848
and he canceled
because he was...
1520
01:05:07,931 --> 01:05:11,068
well, exhaustion, he... he
told everyone at the time.
1521
01:05:11,172 --> 01:05:14,586
It was a bit of a shock.
1522
01:05:14,724 --> 01:05:16,275
I actually had tickets for him,
1523
01:05:16,379 --> 01:05:18,503
whenever the Anger Management
tour was that he canceled.
1524
01:05:18,586 --> 01:05:19,848
I had tickets to that show.
1525
01:05:19,931 --> 01:05:21,620
I remember at the
time being obviously
1526
01:05:21,758 --> 01:05:23,896
supremely disappointed,
but it wasn't a secret,
1527
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,724
the struggles that
he was going through.
1528
01:05:27,862 --> 01:05:29,137
That's why I'm pill-adverse,
1529
01:05:29,241 --> 01:05:30,793
knowing how it got to him.
1530
01:05:30,896 --> 01:05:33,241
Even... I think I had,
like, my wisdom teeth out
1531
01:05:33,344 --> 01:05:36,103
and whatnot, and I wouldn't
even take the hydrocodones
1532
01:05:36,241 --> 01:05:38,365
because I'm like, I can't take
too many because this is...
1533
01:05:38,448 --> 01:05:40,103
this is the stuff
that'll get you.
1534
01:05:40,206 --> 01:05:42,931
♪ ♪
1535
01:05:43,034 --> 01:05:44,655
I was on vacation
for a few days,
1536
01:05:44,758 --> 01:05:49,482
and I came back, and my
mom came to pick me...
1537
01:05:49,586 --> 01:05:51,586
pick me up at the airport.
1538
01:05:51,689 --> 01:05:54,503
And she looked at me like she
never looked at me like this
1539
01:05:54,586 --> 01:05:59,620
before, and she said,
"Zolt, someone from
1540
01:05:59,724 --> 01:06:01,951
Eminem friends passed away."
1541
01:06:02,034 --> 01:06:04,310
Rapper Deshaun Holton,
better known as Proof,
1542
01:06:04,448 --> 01:06:06,310
one of the founders
of the rap group D12
1543
01:06:06,448 --> 01:06:09,172
and a close friend of
sometime D12 member Eminem,
1544
01:06:09,310 --> 01:06:11,572
was shot and killed at
a Detroit nightclub.
1545
01:06:11,655 --> 01:06:13,310
He was 32 years old.
1546
01:06:13,448 --> 01:06:14,985
Proof often shared
the stage with Eminem.
1547
01:06:15,068 --> 01:06:16,628
He was even the best
man at Em's wedding
1548
01:06:16,724 --> 01:06:19,344
this past January,
but he was also...
1549
01:06:19,482 --> 01:06:22,827
I want you to listen to
him, give him a chance.
1550
01:06:22,965 --> 01:06:26,793
Put your hands together
for the funky honky Eminem.
1551
01:06:26,931 --> 01:06:29,827
[somber music]
1552
01:06:29,931 --> 01:06:31,103
♪ ♪
1553
01:06:31,206 --> 01:06:32,744
My name is Slim Shady.
1554
01:06:32,827 --> 01:06:34,862
Yo, this is MC Proof,
and this is my DJ...
1555
01:06:34,965 --> 01:06:35,931
I cry.
1556
01:06:36,034 --> 01:06:37,103
I immediately cry.
1557
01:06:37,206 --> 01:06:39,710
I said to my mom, "Sorry,
I can't go to the school.
1558
01:06:39,793 --> 01:06:41,434
It's too much for me, too much."
1559
01:06:41,517 --> 01:06:43,758
It took three months, and
even after three months,
1560
01:06:43,862 --> 01:06:46,434
when I came back to
the... to the school...
1561
01:06:46,517 --> 01:06:49,137
[clears throat] Man.
1562
01:06:49,241 --> 01:06:52,655
Even thinking about it really
want to make me cry about it.
1563
01:06:54,344 --> 01:06:56,089
When he lost Proof,
I cried with him
1564
01:06:56,172 --> 01:06:59,054
'cause I knew
exactly what he felt.
1565
01:06:59,137 --> 01:07:00,310
I lost my cousin,
1566
01:07:00,413 --> 01:07:03,551
and I lost him in
a bad, bad way.
1567
01:07:03,655 --> 01:07:05,517
The one person that
had my back since
1568
01:07:05,620 --> 01:07:08,296
I was a kid, that
always was with me,
1569
01:07:08,379 --> 01:07:11,413
is not here to help me no more.
1570
01:07:11,551 --> 01:07:13,034
All I was doing was
just popping pills
1571
01:07:13,172 --> 01:07:14,689
and just laying in bed all day.
1572
01:07:14,793 --> 01:07:16,689
If he died, I should die.
1573
01:07:16,827 --> 01:07:18,758
That's how I felt.
1574
01:07:23,068 --> 01:07:25,123
[breathes deeply]
1575
01:07:25,206 --> 01:07:27,482
I'm sorry. Give me a second.
1576
01:07:30,517 --> 01:07:33,551
[somber music]
1577
01:07:33,689 --> 01:07:37,241
You know, just, I've
lost a lot of people.
1578
01:07:37,344 --> 01:07:40,296
Um, I've lost my
sister. I lost my dad.
1579
01:07:40,379 --> 01:07:41,468
I lost my nephew.
1580
01:07:41,551 --> 01:07:43,641
So all, like, my close
family's, you know,
1581
01:07:43,724 --> 01:07:44,985
halfway gone.
1582
01:07:45,068 --> 01:07:47,068
Um, but my nephew
was, like, the worst,
1583
01:07:47,206 --> 01:07:49,503
'cause he was, like,
my best friend.
1584
01:07:49,586 --> 01:07:52,068
In 2016, like January, he like,
1585
01:07:52,172 --> 01:07:54,241
complained about
having a sore neck,
1586
01:07:54,379 --> 01:07:55,951
I think it was, and
doctors were like,
1587
01:07:56,034 --> 01:07:57,951
oh, sinus infection,
this, this, this.
1588
01:07:58,034 --> 01:07:59,227
My sister was
taking him every...
1589
01:07:59,310 --> 01:08:00,572
like, all the time,
like... and he was someone
1590
01:08:00,655 --> 01:08:01,827
that never complained.
1591
01:08:01,931 --> 01:08:03,896
Um, he would never tell
you when he was sick,
1592
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,310
so that was already odd.
1593
01:08:05,448 --> 01:08:08,482
So finally some
doctor was like, yeah,
1594
01:08:08,620 --> 01:08:10,448
no, this is stage IV lymphoma.
1595
01:08:10,551 --> 01:08:11,675
You know, when my nephew passed,
1596
01:08:11,758 --> 01:08:15,192
I was like, fuck this,
and I tried to overdose,
1597
01:08:15,275 --> 01:08:17,503
um, after his funeral was over.
1598
01:08:17,586 --> 01:08:21,103
[machinery beeping]
1599
01:08:21,206 --> 01:08:24,448
I woke up in the hospital
with my heart doctor
1600
01:08:24,551 --> 01:08:26,931
at the bottom of
my bed like a dad,
1601
01:08:27,068 --> 01:08:30,192
just telling me never
to do that shit again,
1602
01:08:30,275 --> 01:08:34,054
and I listen to Eminem
because him losing Proof,
1603
01:08:34,137 --> 01:08:36,572
I feel like I really
can resonate with that
1604
01:08:36,655 --> 01:08:39,689
because that was
literally my other half.
1605
01:08:41,931 --> 01:08:43,793
Why is it so rare
that the public
1606
01:08:43,896 --> 01:08:45,192
gets to see Eminem
nowadays? What's...
1607
01:08:45,275 --> 01:08:46,724
Yeah, why is it like that?
1608
01:08:50,172 --> 01:08:52,275
I actually need him
to make my music.
1609
01:08:52,379 --> 01:08:53,896
So he be busy.
1610
01:08:55,413 --> 01:08:59,620
And he had the white shirt
with big Proof on the shirt.
1611
01:09:13,896 --> 01:09:15,068
It was... I didn't...
1612
01:09:15,172 --> 01:09:19,517
I didn't want to see
Marshall like this, so...
1613
01:09:19,620 --> 01:09:22,172
Guys, you gotta tell
me, what's the latest
1614
01:09:22,275 --> 01:09:23,655
with the new D12 album?
1615
01:09:23,758 --> 01:09:25,261
It's all in the memory of Proof,
1616
01:09:25,344 --> 01:09:27,184
-everything that he was.
-Shout out to Proof.
1617
01:09:27,275 --> 01:09:29,296
-You know what I mean?
-Yeah.
1618
01:09:29,379 --> 01:09:31,482
Rest... rest in peace, big baby.
1619
01:09:31,586 --> 01:09:33,206
It was one of the
toughest times,
1620
01:09:33,344 --> 01:09:36,468
if not the toughest time in
his life, that we know of.
1621
01:09:36,551 --> 01:09:39,813
And it was kind of, I think,
a when it rains, it pours.
1622
01:09:39,896 --> 01:09:43,551
My dad, he passed unexpectedly
when I was entering
1623
01:09:43,655 --> 01:09:45,813
my freshman year of college.
1624
01:09:45,896 --> 01:09:51,468
You know, listening to him
talking about his grief
1625
01:09:51,551 --> 01:09:55,434
and the lows that
he went through...
1626
01:09:55,517 --> 01:09:57,896
I mean, I connect to that.
1627
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,689
♪ And Proof I'm truly
sorry if I let you down ♪
1628
01:10:00,827 --> 01:10:02,827
♪ But this tore me in two ♪
1629
01:10:02,965 --> 01:10:05,517
♪ The thought of no
more me and you ♪
1630
01:10:05,620 --> 01:10:07,434
♪ You gave me shoes,
Nikes like new ♪
1631
01:10:07,517 --> 01:10:09,434
♪ For me for school ♪
1632
01:10:09,517 --> 01:10:11,917
♪ Doody, I'm trying, but
you, you were the glue ♪
1633
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,689
♪ That binded so
many things, time ♪
1634
01:10:13,793 --> 01:10:15,931
♪ I'd give anything
to rewind it ♪
1635
01:10:16,034 --> 01:10:18,965
♪ I had to walk down my halls
and constantly be reminded ♪
1636
01:10:19,068 --> 01:10:20,517
♪ By pictures all on my walls ♪
1637
01:10:20,620 --> 01:10:21,917
♪ And I couldn't
sleep at night ♪
1638
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,724
♪ 'Cause that image
burned in my brain ♪
1639
01:10:23,862 --> 01:10:26,379
♪ Of you on the table, me
falling across your body ♪
1640
01:10:26,517 --> 01:10:28,586
♪ Not able to
stand to save you ♪
1641
01:10:28,689 --> 01:10:30,689
♪ God, why did you take him? ♪
1642
01:10:34,482 --> 01:10:36,296
I was really
worried for Marshall
1643
01:10:36,379 --> 01:10:39,137
during those years,
for his well-being,
1644
01:10:39,241 --> 01:10:41,655
spiritually, physically.
1645
01:10:41,758 --> 01:10:45,172
Didn't know how it was
going to alter the future.
1646
01:10:45,275 --> 01:10:47,310
I'd got into this
vicious cycle of,
1647
01:10:47,413 --> 01:10:50,296
I'm depressed so
I need more pills.
1648
01:10:50,379 --> 01:10:52,434
And then your
tolerance gets so high
1649
01:10:52,517 --> 01:10:54,951
that you end up overdosing.
1650
01:10:55,034 --> 01:10:57,655
I woke up in the
hospital, and I didn't
1651
01:10:57,758 --> 01:10:59,068
know what the fuck happened.
1652
01:10:59,172 --> 01:11:00,931
Like, it... it seemed like I...
1653
01:11:01,034 --> 01:11:02,365
I fell asleep, and I woke up,
1654
01:11:02,448 --> 01:11:03,813
and I woke up with
tubes in me and shit.
1655
01:11:03,896 --> 01:11:05,068
I wanted to get up.
1656
01:11:05,172 --> 01:11:06,482
I couldn't move.
1657
01:11:08,862 --> 01:11:13,068
After the overdose,
I came home going,
1658
01:11:13,172 --> 01:11:18,241
yo, bro, I need something,
and I fucking went to town.
1659
01:11:18,379 --> 01:11:21,330
So I was really, like,
inside knowing, like,
1660
01:11:21,413 --> 01:11:22,931
I need to fucking...
1661
01:11:23,068 --> 01:11:26,206
I'm going to die if I don't...
if I don't do something.
1662
01:11:28,448 --> 01:11:31,586
I had this video
that they brought me
1663
01:11:31,689 --> 01:11:34,985
because I missed Hailie's
first guitar recital.
1664
01:11:35,068 --> 01:11:37,379
The amount of guilt that I felt,
1665
01:11:37,482 --> 01:11:40,413
I cried when I saw
it 'cause I was like,
1666
01:11:40,517 --> 01:11:43,330
oh, my God, I missed that.
1667
01:11:43,413 --> 01:11:46,537
And I kept saying to myself,
1668
01:11:46,620 --> 01:11:48,330
"Do you want to fucking
miss this again?
1669
01:11:48,413 --> 01:11:50,965
Do you want to miss everything?"
1670
01:11:51,068 --> 01:11:53,896
♪ ♪
1671
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,261
If you can't do it for yourself,
1672
01:11:55,344 --> 01:11:58,379
you fucking pussy, at
least do it for them.
1673
01:12:00,586 --> 01:12:04,758
I realized I'm never
doing this again.
1674
01:12:04,862 --> 01:12:08,172
[microphone feedback]
1675
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:10,448
When I heard the news
that he, like, overdosed,
1676
01:12:10,551 --> 01:12:13,710
I was like, fuck. Like, damn.
1677
01:12:13,793 --> 01:12:15,965
Like, he could have actually...
1678
01:12:16,068 --> 01:12:18,434
he could have really died.
1679
01:12:18,517 --> 01:12:20,137
For me with celebrities,
it almost feels
1680
01:12:20,241 --> 01:12:21,606
like they are untouchable.
1681
01:12:21,689 --> 01:12:23,089
So whenever you hear
that a celebrity
1682
01:12:23,172 --> 01:12:24,482
died or almost died,
1683
01:12:24,586 --> 01:12:26,827
it's always like... it
hits you differently
1684
01:12:26,965 --> 01:12:30,448
from, like, uh, like
a normal person.
1685
01:12:30,551 --> 01:12:32,089
I was just in shock.
1686
01:12:32,172 --> 01:12:34,310
So I made a point,
I'm playing Eminem
1687
01:12:34,413 --> 01:12:35,655
every single day
1688
01:12:35,758 --> 01:12:37,399
until he gets out and
until he gets better,
1689
01:12:37,482 --> 01:12:39,517
until... until he
comes back to his rap.
1690
01:12:39,655 --> 01:12:41,744
And that's what I
did, every single song
1691
01:12:41,827 --> 01:12:44,882
over and over on replay.
1692
01:12:44,965 --> 01:12:46,448
While I was sitting in detox,
1693
01:12:46,551 --> 01:12:47,655
I didn't know exactly
1694
01:12:47,758 --> 01:12:50,606
what I was going to
do with my career.
1695
01:12:50,689 --> 01:12:52,089
At that time, I
was just thinking,
1696
01:12:52,172 --> 01:12:53,103
like, this can't be it.
1697
01:12:53,206 --> 01:12:54,296
Like, in the back of
my mind, of course,
1698
01:12:54,379 --> 01:12:55,606
I'm scared that it is.
1699
01:12:55,689 --> 01:12:58,000
No new music, no new
tours, no new interviews,
1700
01:12:58,137 --> 01:12:59,917
no new jokes,
whatever the case is.
1701
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:01,641
It's just, he'd be gone.
1702
01:13:01,724 --> 01:13:06,034
To me, it was like,
Eminem, I know it's hard,
1703
01:13:06,137 --> 01:13:10,551
but one day you are coming back.
1704
01:13:10,655 --> 01:13:12,689
I had to relearn
how to walk, talk,
1705
01:13:12,793 --> 01:13:14,123
and, for the most part,
1706
01:13:14,206 --> 01:13:16,551
had to relearn how to rap again.
1707
01:13:16,655 --> 01:13:19,641
My writing had gotten terrible.
1708
01:13:19,724 --> 01:13:22,413
What did it feel like when
it started to work again?
1709
01:13:22,517 --> 01:13:25,103
Um, when I started
to get it back,
1710
01:13:25,206 --> 01:13:28,758
it was exciting
because I felt it.
1711
01:13:28,862 --> 01:13:32,158
It would be in conversations,
just having conversations
1712
01:13:32,241 --> 01:13:34,123
with people or the TV.
1713
01:13:34,206 --> 01:13:36,724
Like, every... every phrase
that someone said on TV,
1714
01:13:36,862 --> 01:13:39,586
oh, you said the word "the."
1715
01:13:39,689 --> 01:13:41,655
Duh, uh.
1716
01:13:41,758 --> 01:13:43,517
It was hitting me really fast,
1717
01:13:43,620 --> 01:13:46,068
and I was writing
songs really quickly.
1718
01:13:46,206 --> 01:13:47,551
What... what's going on?
1719
01:13:47,689 --> 01:13:48,862
[cheering]
1720
01:13:48,965 --> 01:13:50,468
What are you guys doing?
1721
01:13:50,551 --> 01:13:52,744
Do you mind if I come out and
maybe join you or something?
1722
01:13:52,827 --> 01:13:54,296
You wanna come
out? Come on, baby.
1723
01:13:54,379 --> 01:13:56,724
-Eminem!
-Get over here.
1724
01:13:56,827 --> 01:13:58,724
When he first
announced "Relapse,"
1725
01:13:58,862 --> 01:14:00,379
it felt like Christmas to me.
1726
01:14:00,482 --> 01:14:03,000
Because when an album comes out,
1727
01:14:03,103 --> 01:14:06,227
I listen to an
album front to back,
1728
01:14:06,310 --> 01:14:07,655
and then back to front,
1729
01:14:07,793 --> 01:14:12,241
and then to the end again,
for months at a time.
1730
01:14:12,344 --> 01:14:16,020
So listening to "Relapse"
was amazing to me,
1731
01:14:16,103 --> 01:14:17,413
just to hear that he's back.
1732
01:14:17,517 --> 01:14:20,448
I was just so, so ecstatic,
so proud, and so happy
1733
01:14:20,551 --> 01:14:21,671
that I could hear him again.
1734
01:14:21,758 --> 01:14:23,227
Number one, you look good.
1735
01:14:23,310 --> 01:14:25,448
Number two, you're
number one right now,
1736
01:14:25,586 --> 01:14:26,710
as far as your
album's concerned,
1737
01:14:26,793 --> 01:14:27,985
and number three,
you're number one
1738
01:14:28,068 --> 01:14:29,310
in the UK as well.
1739
01:14:29,448 --> 01:14:30,758
So congratulations.
1740
01:14:30,862 --> 01:14:32,758
-How does it feel?
-Yeah, thank you.
1741
01:14:32,862 --> 01:14:34,020
It feels great.
I mean, I'm just,
1742
01:14:34,103 --> 01:14:35,448
you know, I'm glad to be back.
1743
01:14:35,586 --> 01:14:36,675
[cheers and applause]
1744
01:14:36,758 --> 01:14:38,551
Guess who?
1745
01:14:38,655 --> 01:14:39,882
You miss me?
1746
01:14:39,965 --> 01:14:42,103
Jessica Simpson,
sing the chorus.
1747
01:14:42,206 --> 01:14:43,848
♪ When you walked
through the door ♪
1748
01:14:43,931 --> 01:14:45,586
♪ It was clear to me ♪
1749
01:14:45,689 --> 01:14:46,689
♪ Clear to me ♪
1750
01:14:46,793 --> 01:14:47,813
♪ You're the one they adore ♪
1751
01:14:47,896 --> 01:14:49,620
♪ Who they came to see ♪
1752
01:14:49,724 --> 01:14:50,758
♪ Who they came to see ♪
1753
01:14:50,862 --> 01:14:52,310
♪ You're a rock star ♪
1754
01:14:52,413 --> 01:14:53,344
You know what I love
about your work,
1755
01:14:53,448 --> 01:14:54,572
and I'm sure many people do,
1756
01:14:54,655 --> 01:14:56,448
is there's a sense
of humor. It's funny.
1757
01:14:56,551 --> 01:14:58,965
Uh, you diss some people
in the new single.
1758
01:14:59,068 --> 01:15:00,572
-Some.
-Yeah.
1759
01:15:00,655 --> 01:15:01,517
[laughter]
1760
01:15:01,655 --> 01:15:02,896
♪ Back by popular demand ♪
1761
01:15:03,034 --> 01:15:05,482
♪ Now pop a little Zantac
for antacid if you can ♪
1762
01:15:05,586 --> 01:15:09,000
As wickedly shrewd and
sharp as he is lyrically
1763
01:15:09,103 --> 01:15:11,123
with these scathing
disses of other people,
1764
01:15:11,206 --> 01:15:14,034
he was equally on his own case,
1765
01:15:14,137 --> 01:15:16,896
equally making fun of himself.
1766
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,344
And all of that makes
you endearing to people.
1767
01:15:19,448 --> 01:15:22,917
♪ ♪
1768
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,641
His disses were always funny,
1769
01:15:24,724 --> 01:15:26,517
and he did something
with his voice.
1770
01:15:26,620 --> 01:15:27,675
Different character, right?
1771
01:15:27,758 --> 01:15:29,517
Flowing pretty
damn cool, though.
1772
01:15:29,655 --> 01:15:33,137
The whole, like, weird accent
thing that he did on it
1773
01:15:33,241 --> 01:15:34,434
kind of threw me off.
1774
01:15:34,517 --> 01:15:36,158
Then when I listened to it more,
1775
01:15:36,241 --> 01:15:39,206
I'm like, damn, I was missing
out on, like, some good shit.
1776
01:15:39,310 --> 01:15:41,206
♪ ♪
1777
01:15:41,344 --> 01:15:44,068
[electricity crackling]
1778
01:15:46,103 --> 01:15:49,551
The response that I got
from "Relapse" was lukewarm.
1779
01:15:49,655 --> 01:15:52,951
That hurt a little bit, but
it also turned the lights on.
1780
01:15:53,034 --> 01:15:56,034
Like, you got to do
something different.
1781
01:15:56,172 --> 01:15:58,827
Why don't you try
embracing sobriety?
1782
01:15:58,931 --> 01:16:02,482
[soft music]
1783
01:16:03,827 --> 01:16:09,103
I realized, like, I'm not
embarrassed anymore about it.
1784
01:16:09,206 --> 01:16:12,482
And I started treating
sobriety like a superpower,
1785
01:16:12,586 --> 01:16:16,241
and I took pride in the fact
that I was able to quit.
1786
01:16:16,344 --> 01:16:18,413
♪ ♪
1787
01:16:18,517 --> 01:16:20,848
"Recovery" was a breath
of fresh air for him.
1788
01:16:20,931 --> 01:16:22,586
I think it really
sounded like someone
1789
01:16:22,724 --> 01:16:29,137
who was reclaiming his own
life and his own narrative.
1790
01:16:29,241 --> 01:16:31,227
♪ ♪
1791
01:16:31,310 --> 01:16:33,620
Getting sober and going
through what he went through
1792
01:16:33,724 --> 01:16:36,572
made him a totally
different person and artist.
1793
01:16:36,655 --> 01:16:39,192
He just used different
flows and different cadences
1794
01:16:39,275 --> 01:16:41,054
and ways of rapping on tunes.
1795
01:16:41,137 --> 01:16:44,793
So for me as a fan,
it was like becoming
1796
01:16:44,896 --> 01:16:47,448
a fan of a totally new artist.
1797
01:16:47,551 --> 01:16:51,068
♪ ♪
1798
01:17:03,379 --> 01:17:05,379
I was there in the front.
1799
01:17:05,482 --> 01:17:07,123
Everybody here tonight
who is an Eminem fan,
1800
01:17:07,206 --> 01:17:09,123
man, I just want to say
1801
01:17:09,206 --> 01:17:12,089
thank you for the support, man,
1802
01:17:12,172 --> 01:17:15,000
and not giving up on me, man.
1803
01:17:15,103 --> 01:17:18,448
I love y'all and I couldn't
have did it without you,
1804
01:17:18,551 --> 01:17:21,123
so this song is for you.
1805
01:17:21,206 --> 01:17:23,379
[Eminem's "Not Afraid"]
1806
01:17:23,517 --> 01:17:25,655
- ♪ I'm not afraid
- Sing it, y'all.
1807
01:17:25,758 --> 01:17:28,296
- ♪ To take a stand -
Get this business right.
1808
01:17:28,379 --> 01:17:30,917
- ♪ Everybody - I
guess I had to...
1809
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:32,344
♪ Come take my hand ♪
1810
01:17:32,448 --> 01:17:34,296
-Go to that place...
-♪ On this road together ♪
1811
01:17:34,379 --> 01:17:36,379
To get to this one.
1812
01:17:36,482 --> 01:17:40,089
And some of you might
still be in that place,
1813
01:17:40,172 --> 01:17:41,261
♪ Let you know,
you're not alone ♪
1814
01:17:41,344 --> 01:17:42,862
Trying to get out.
1815
01:17:42,965 --> 01:17:44,206
♪ Holla if you feel that ♪
1816
01:17:44,344 --> 01:17:45,965
♪ You've been down
the same road ♪
1817
01:17:46,068 --> 01:17:47,434
♪ Read my lyrics
off of this paper ♪
1818
01:17:47,517 --> 01:17:48,827
♪ Before I lay 'em ♪
1819
01:17:48,931 --> 01:17:50,330
♪ But you won't take the
sting out these words ♪
1820
01:17:50,413 --> 01:17:51,482
♪ Before I say 'em ♪
1821
01:17:51,586 --> 01:17:52,813
♪ 'Cause ain't no
way I'ma let you ♪
1822
01:17:52,896 --> 01:17:54,089
♪ Stop me from causing mayhem ♪
1823
01:17:54,172 --> 01:17:55,951
♪ When I say I'ma do
something, I do it ♪
1824
01:17:56,034 --> 01:17:57,503
♪ I don't give a
damn what you think ♪
1825
01:17:57,586 --> 01:17:58,965
♪ I'm doing this for me ♪
1826
01:17:59,068 --> 01:18:00,365
♪ So fuck the world,
feed it beans ♪
1827
01:18:00,448 --> 01:18:02,413
♪ It's gassed up if it
thinks it's stopping me ♪
1828
01:18:02,517 --> 01:18:04,241
♪ I'ma be what I set out to be ♪
1829
01:18:04,344 --> 01:18:08,206
That album helped rectify
a lot of things in my life.
1830
01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:10,275
Talking about going
through losing his friend,
1831
01:18:10,413 --> 01:18:14,241
talking about the
sleeping pill addiction.
1832
01:18:14,344 --> 01:18:16,365
I'm just like Marshall.
1833
01:18:16,448 --> 01:18:19,068
There's times when,
in a 48-hour period,
1834
01:18:19,206 --> 01:18:22,503
I'd blow through 30 to 45
Ambien, like it was nothing.
1835
01:18:22,586 --> 01:18:24,985
♪ Like a fuck you
for Christmas ♪
1836
01:18:25,068 --> 01:18:27,103
Watching how he's gotten sober,
1837
01:18:27,206 --> 01:18:30,020
I didn't feel the need
to numb myself anymore.
1838
01:18:30,103 --> 01:18:32,330
♪ I'm not afraid,
I'm not afraid ♪
1839
01:18:32,413 --> 01:18:35,330
♪ To take a stand,
to take a stand ♪
1840
01:18:35,413 --> 01:18:38,793
I'm sitting down
at home one day,
1841
01:18:38,931 --> 01:18:42,503
and I'm just drinking,
and I pop the pill,
1842
01:18:42,586 --> 01:18:44,710
and "Not Afraid" came on.
1843
01:18:44,793 --> 01:18:47,896
I took it like he
was speaking to me.
1844
01:18:48,034 --> 01:18:49,586
And that moment, that day,
1845
01:18:49,724 --> 01:18:52,068
that night gave me
that push to say,
1846
01:18:52,206 --> 01:18:54,503
I'm done.
1847
01:18:54,586 --> 01:18:56,068
I have a wife now. I have a kid.
1848
01:18:56,172 --> 01:18:57,503
I have responsibilities.
1849
01:18:57,586 --> 01:18:59,537
I can't... I have to stop this.
1850
01:18:59,620 --> 01:19:01,965
So if I didn't act
on it in that moment,
1851
01:19:02,068 --> 01:19:04,793
I would have been screwed.
1852
01:19:04,896 --> 01:19:07,344
He was by my side, helping me
1853
01:19:07,448 --> 01:19:10,551
so I could be completely
clean and clear out my head
1854
01:19:10,689 --> 01:19:12,586
and start doing
something with my life.
1855
01:19:12,689 --> 01:19:14,641
♪ Put my life back
together right now ♪
1856
01:19:14,724 --> 01:19:16,620
♪ It was my decision
to get clean ♪
1857
01:19:16,724 --> 01:19:18,068
♪ I did it for me ♪
1858
01:19:18,172 --> 01:19:20,862
♪ Admittedly, I probably did
it subliminally for you ♪
1859
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:22,793
♪ So I could come
back a brand-new me ♪
1860
01:19:22,896 --> 01:19:24,020
♪ You helped see me through ♪
1861
01:19:24,103 --> 01:19:25,399
♪ And don't even
realize what you did ♪
1862
01:19:25,482 --> 01:19:26,655
♪ 'Cause believe me, you ♪
1863
01:19:26,793 --> 01:19:28,073
♪ I've been through
the wringer ♪
1864
01:19:28,172 --> 01:19:29,882
♪ But they can do little
to the middle finger ♪
1865
01:19:29,965 --> 01:19:31,482
♪ I think I got a
tear in my eye ♪
1866
01:19:31,586 --> 01:19:33,123
♪ I feel like the
king of my world ♪
1867
01:19:33,206 --> 01:19:35,241
♪ Haters can make like
bees with no stingers ♪
1868
01:19:35,344 --> 01:19:36,296
♪ And drop dead ♪
1869
01:19:36,379 --> 01:19:37,482
♪ No more beef lingers ♪
1870
01:19:37,586 --> 01:19:39,123
♪ No more drama from now on ♪
1871
01:19:39,206 --> 01:19:41,655
♪ I promise to focus only on
handling my responsibilities ♪
1872
01:19:41,758 --> 01:19:43,000
♪ As a father ♪
1873
01:19:43,103 --> 01:19:44,744
♪ So I solemnly swear to
always treat this roof ♪
1874
01:19:44,827 --> 01:19:46,551
♪ Like my daughters
and raise it ♪
1875
01:19:46,655 --> 01:19:48,517
♪ You couldn't lift a
single shingle on it ♪
1876
01:19:48,655 --> 01:19:50,344
♪ 'Cause the way I feel
I'm strong enough ♪
1877
01:19:50,448 --> 01:19:52,123
♪ To go to the club
or the corner bar ♪
1878
01:19:52,206 --> 01:19:53,965
♪ And lift the whole
liquor counter up ♪
1879
01:19:54,068 --> 01:19:55,379
♪ 'Cause I'm raising the bar ♪
1880
01:19:55,482 --> 01:19:56,606
♪ I'd shoot for the moon ♪
1881
01:19:56,689 --> 01:19:57,917
♪ But I'm too busy
gazing at stars ♪
1882
01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,344
♪ I feel amazing, and ♪
1883
01:19:59,448 --> 01:20:01,724
♪ I'm not afraid,
I'm not afraid ♪
1884
01:20:01,827 --> 01:20:04,655
♪ To take a stand,
to take a stand ♪
1885
01:20:04,758 --> 01:20:07,261
♪ Everybody, everybody ♪
1886
01:20:07,344 --> 01:20:09,551
♪ Come take my hand,
come take my hand ♪
1887
01:20:09,655 --> 01:20:13,123
♪ We'll walk this road
together through the storm ♪
1888
01:20:13,206 --> 01:20:15,482
♪ Whatever the
weather, cold or warm ♪
1889
01:20:15,586 --> 01:20:18,606
♪ Just letting you know
that you're not alone ♪
1890
01:20:18,689 --> 01:20:21,379
♪ Holla if you
feel like you've ♪
1891
01:20:21,517 --> 01:20:25,172
♪ Been down the same road ♪
1892
01:20:25,275 --> 01:20:27,413
When I was young, I
was really using music,
1893
01:20:27,517 --> 01:20:30,917
and often times Eminem's
music, to self-medicate
1894
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,172
for my generalized
anxiety disorder.
1895
01:20:33,275 --> 01:20:35,468
Just kind of having
a hard time with life
1896
01:20:35,551 --> 01:20:37,054
and just processing
different emotions,
1897
01:20:37,137 --> 01:20:40,793
from being bullied at school
or wanting to date girls
1898
01:20:40,896 --> 01:20:42,379
and being rejected.
1899
01:20:42,517 --> 01:20:44,798
Like, you know, all the things
that come with adolescence.
1900
01:20:45,724 --> 01:20:47,758
As I got older, I
started at UNC and
1901
01:20:47,862 --> 01:20:50,206
led a team of researchers,
and we analyzed
1902
01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:53,206
rap lyrics from 1998 to 2018.
1903
01:20:53,310 --> 01:20:58,172
We saw mental health
references go from 8% to 44%.
1904
01:20:58,310 --> 01:21:00,310
Our findings were a reflection
1905
01:21:00,413 --> 01:21:01,896
of society changing,
1906
01:21:02,034 --> 01:21:04,379
and there were certain
artists early on,
1907
01:21:04,517 --> 01:21:06,068
Eminem among them,
1908
01:21:06,206 --> 01:21:09,758
who really kind of normalized it
1909
01:21:09,862 --> 01:21:12,192
and made it OK to talk about
these difficult feelings
1910
01:21:12,275 --> 01:21:13,448
and emotions.
1911
01:21:13,551 --> 01:21:14,882
[Eminem's "Walk On Water"]
1912
01:21:14,965 --> 01:21:17,103
There's so much strength
in vulnerability,
1913
01:21:17,206 --> 01:21:19,985
and that is such
a powerful thing.
1914
01:21:20,068 --> 01:21:24,448
That's one of the reasons
for Eminem's success.
1915
01:21:24,551 --> 01:21:26,241
When he's really vulnerable,
1916
01:21:26,344 --> 01:21:29,365
and he takes you there, when
he's talking about himself,
1917
01:21:29,448 --> 01:21:31,537
and the downsides of himself,
1918
01:21:31,620 --> 01:21:34,206
those are the things
that I gravitate to
1919
01:21:34,310 --> 01:21:36,034
more so than anything.
1920
01:21:37,275 --> 01:21:39,793
♪ I'm a Rubik's,
a beautiful mess ♪
1921
01:21:39,896 --> 01:21:41,034
♪ At times juvenile, yes ♪
1922
01:21:41,137 --> 01:21:43,448
♪ I goof and I jest ♪
1923
01:21:43,551 --> 01:21:45,020
♪ A flawed human, I guess ♪
1924
01:21:45,103 --> 01:21:46,985
♪ But I'm doing my
best to not ruin ♪
1925
01:21:47,068 --> 01:21:48,655
♪ Your expectations
and meet 'em ♪
1926
01:21:48,758 --> 01:21:50,192
♪ But first the
"Speedom" verse ♪
1927
01:21:50,275 --> 01:21:51,896
♪ Now, Big Sean,
he's going too fast ♪
1928
01:21:52,034 --> 01:21:54,103
♪ Is he gonna shout
or curse out his mom ♪
1929
01:21:54,241 --> 01:21:56,551
♪ There was a time I had
the world by the balls ♪
1930
01:21:56,655 --> 01:21:58,068
♪ Eating out my palm ♪
1931
01:21:58,172 --> 01:22:01,172
♪ Every album song I was
spazzing the fuck out on ♪
1932
01:22:01,275 --> 01:22:02,951
♪ And now I'm getting
clowned and frowned on ♪
1933
01:22:03,034 --> 01:22:05,172
♪ But the only one who's
looking down on me ♪
1934
01:22:05,310 --> 01:22:07,089
♪ That matters now's Deshaun ♪
1935
01:22:07,172 --> 01:22:09,275
♪ Am I lucky to be
around this long ♪
1936
01:22:09,379 --> 01:22:11,034
Eminem was one of
1937
01:22:11,137 --> 01:22:14,089
the most important
people in this trend.
1938
01:22:14,172 --> 01:22:16,689
He made it more acceptable
for other artists
1939
01:22:16,827 --> 01:22:19,137
to really talk about
these complex emotions.
1940
01:22:19,275 --> 01:22:26,310
♪
1941
01:23:13,103 --> 01:23:18,413
I really felt like those
lyrics were written for me.
1942
01:23:18,517 --> 01:23:20,586
It's extremely therapeutic,
1943
01:23:20,689 --> 01:23:24,068
and I don't take
that for granted.
1944
01:23:24,172 --> 01:23:27,000
He really has gone through
so much and struggled,
1945
01:23:27,103 --> 01:23:29,896
and I felt connected
to him in a way
1946
01:23:30,034 --> 01:23:34,206
that I ended up changing
my legal name to Marshall.
1947
01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:36,379
It's kind of a reminder
to not feel like I have to
1948
01:23:36,482 --> 01:23:39,620
apologize for who I am.
1949
01:23:41,620 --> 01:23:44,896
[soft music]
1950
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:52,000
♪ ♪
1951
01:24:25,931 --> 01:24:28,365
I originally wrote
this letter to Eminem
1952
01:24:28,448 --> 01:24:30,413
three months ago,
but I never sent it.
1953
01:24:35,275 --> 01:24:38,448
"Dear Eminem, I'm
not sure you're going
1954
01:24:38,551 --> 01:24:40,137
"to get this or even read it.
1955
01:24:40,275 --> 01:24:42,192
"I'm just going to write down
how I feel about everything,
1956
01:24:42,275 --> 01:24:44,448
"because, honestly, you're
one of the only people that
1957
01:24:44,551 --> 01:24:46,758
"are helping me get through
this, even if I'm just
1958
01:24:46,896 --> 01:24:48,399
"a random 14-year-old girl
1959
01:24:48,482 --> 01:24:50,572
"probably having one
of those mood swings.
1960
01:24:50,655 --> 01:24:52,965
"Don't worry, I won't end
up like your song 'Stan, '
1961
01:24:53,068 --> 01:24:54,758
"even though it's
one of my favorites.
1962
01:24:54,862 --> 01:24:57,020
"But it will never
beat 'Mockingbird.'
1963
01:24:57,103 --> 01:24:59,137
"That fucking song
saved my life.
1964
01:24:59,241 --> 01:25:01,123
"My parents are constantly
fighting about stuff
1965
01:25:01,206 --> 01:25:02,655
"that don't even matter.
1966
01:25:02,758 --> 01:25:05,620
"And it gets annoying, because
when I say something about it,
1967
01:25:05,724 --> 01:25:07,123
"I get blamed for it.
1968
01:25:07,206 --> 01:25:11,034
"And the only one that
I feel cares about me
1969
01:25:11,172 --> 01:25:13,344
"is my brother,
because he was the one
1970
01:25:13,448 --> 01:25:15,793
"that had me listening to
you ever since I was born.
1971
01:25:15,896 --> 01:25:17,779
"He's in his 20s,
and I love him a lot,
1972
01:25:17,862 --> 01:25:21,000
and I wish my
parents..." [laughs]
1973
01:25:21,137 --> 01:25:22,551
"Loved me as much as he did.
1974
01:25:22,655 --> 01:25:24,827
"I thought about how much
you care about Hailie
1975
01:25:24,965 --> 01:25:26,261
"and just wish
they cared about me
1976
01:25:26,344 --> 01:25:27,813
"as much as you did with her.
1977
01:25:27,896 --> 01:25:30,054
"It's crazy that your songs
and even your silly interviews
1978
01:25:30,137 --> 01:25:32,123
"make me feel happier
than my family ever did.
1979
01:25:32,206 --> 01:25:34,034
"I know I'm just
another Eminem fan who
1980
01:25:34,137 --> 01:25:36,379
"has a sad backstory or
some other shit like that,
1981
01:25:36,517 --> 01:25:37,793
"but you're such a cool guy.
1982
01:25:37,896 --> 01:25:40,551
"I admire you, and
if my parents did,
1983
01:25:40,655 --> 01:25:42,572
"maybe they'd be an even
better parent like you are.
1984
01:25:42,655 --> 01:25:44,827
Hope you get this, Kripa."
1985
01:25:44,931 --> 01:25:46,344
[laughs]
1986
01:25:46,448 --> 01:25:48,434
Why do you think you
chose him as an outlet
1987
01:25:48,517 --> 01:25:50,724
for your tough feelings?
1988
01:25:50,827 --> 01:25:52,137
Um, sorry, wait.
1989
01:25:52,241 --> 01:25:54,482
[laughs]
1990
01:25:54,620 --> 01:25:57,724
Um, probably because, like,
1991
01:25:57,827 --> 01:26:00,896
he's had a really tough
childhood too, so I feel like,
1992
01:26:01,034 --> 01:26:02,931
um, he would relate
a little bit.
1993
01:26:03,034 --> 01:26:08,813
Taking my feelings out with,
like, writing something...
1994
01:26:08,896 --> 01:26:10,158
sorry.
1995
01:26:10,241 --> 01:26:16,551
Um, I feel like it, like,
makes me feel better.
1996
01:26:16,689 --> 01:26:19,551
[somber music]
1997
01:26:19,655 --> 01:26:22,551
[crying]
1998
01:26:22,655 --> 01:26:25,551
♪ ♪
1999
01:26:25,655 --> 01:26:28,413
I feel like it
makes me feel better
2000
01:26:28,517 --> 01:26:30,586
'cause there's also
other people out there
2001
01:26:30,689 --> 01:26:32,192
going through the same thing.
2002
01:26:32,275 --> 01:26:36,813
And so if they see
what I'm going through
2003
01:26:36,896 --> 01:26:38,758
and what, like,
Eminem went through,
2004
01:26:38,896 --> 01:26:40,675
maybe they'll know
that a lot of people
2005
01:26:40,758 --> 01:26:42,241
also go through the same things
2006
01:26:42,379 --> 01:26:46,068
that, like, other people do.
2007
01:26:47,931 --> 01:26:50,586
A big part of my
tattoos have been about
2008
01:26:50,689 --> 01:26:54,413
facing up to my mental health.
2009
01:26:54,551 --> 01:26:57,192
A lot of people really
didn't like my world record.
2010
01:26:57,275 --> 01:26:58,641
What a stupid record.
2011
01:26:58,724 --> 01:27:00,551
It's ridiculous.
2012
01:27:00,655 --> 01:27:05,000
It can hurt when... when
people say horrible things.
2013
01:27:05,137 --> 01:27:06,813
I've been told that I
need to be locked up,
2014
01:27:06,896 --> 01:27:08,793
I should be in a mental place.
2015
01:27:08,931 --> 01:27:12,620
[phone chiming]
2016
01:27:12,724 --> 01:27:14,710
Although I read the
negative things,
2017
01:27:14,793 --> 01:27:16,275
and it's hurtful,
2018
01:27:16,379 --> 01:27:19,261
it would never
change the fact that
2019
01:27:19,344 --> 01:27:22,261
I've continued to
get the tattoos.
2020
01:27:22,344 --> 01:27:25,227
Do you have a
favorite Eminem song?
2021
01:27:25,310 --> 01:27:27,689
I usually say "Not Afraid."
2022
01:27:27,827 --> 01:27:30,482
There are a lot
of positives, too,
2023
01:27:30,586 --> 01:27:33,310
because my Instagram has
brought a lot of other fans
2024
01:27:33,413 --> 01:27:36,758
who really relate to
me in a lot of ways.
2025
01:27:36,862 --> 01:27:38,793
And I met my husband.
2026
01:27:38,896 --> 01:27:40,310
[phone chimes]
2027
01:27:42,689 --> 01:27:45,000
He's a really big
Eminem fan as well,
2028
01:27:45,103 --> 01:27:48,137
and he reached out to me.
2029
01:27:48,241 --> 01:27:50,882
It's really nice to
have somebody that
2030
01:27:50,965 --> 01:27:53,227
gets the whole Eminem thing.
2031
01:27:53,310 --> 01:27:55,744
I get these impulsive
thoughts in my head.
2032
01:27:55,827 --> 01:27:58,965
I was like, we should
get married in Detroit.
2033
01:27:59,068 --> 01:28:00,951
We got married at
St. Andrew's Hall,
2034
01:28:01,034 --> 01:28:04,517
which is one of the first
places that Eminem performed.
2035
01:28:04,620 --> 01:28:08,862
And now we've got a son.
2036
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:10,275
Without Eminem,
2037
01:28:10,379 --> 01:28:13,517
I wouldn't have the
life I have right now.
2038
01:28:13,655 --> 01:28:16,724
[soft music]
2039
01:28:21,655 --> 01:28:22,862
[doorbell jingles]
2040
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,724
[upbeat music]
2041
01:28:24,827 --> 01:28:29,068
What do you think is meant
by "The Death of Slim Shady"?
2042
01:28:29,206 --> 01:28:30,172
Who knows how he means it?
2043
01:28:30,275 --> 01:28:31,206
He's a satirist.
2044
01:28:31,344 --> 01:28:32,586
He could be, like,
2045
01:28:32,724 --> 01:28:34,413
saying let's cancel Slim Shady.
2046
01:28:34,551 --> 01:28:38,296
Which is kind of funny
to even think about.
2047
01:28:38,379 --> 01:28:42,206
[laughs] Slim Shady
can't be canceled.
2048
01:28:42,310 --> 01:28:45,586
"The Death of Slim Shady"
is a concept album,
2049
01:28:45,724 --> 01:28:47,296
so you gotta listen
from start to finish,
2050
01:28:47,379 --> 01:28:50,123
um, and it's about Slim
Shady, his character
2051
01:28:50,206 --> 01:28:54,468
that he started 25 years
ago, and how his character
2052
01:28:54,551 --> 01:28:55,985
would be in this age.
2053
01:28:56,068 --> 01:28:59,158
♪ Sometimes I wonder
what the old me'd say ♪
2054
01:28:59,241 --> 01:29:00,620
♪ If what ♪
2055
01:29:00,724 --> 01:29:03,448
♪ If he could see the
way shit is today ♪
2056
01:29:03,551 --> 01:29:06,365
♪ He'd probably say
that everything is gay ♪
2057
01:29:06,448 --> 01:29:07,448
♪ Like happy ♪
2058
01:29:07,551 --> 01:29:09,551
♪ What's my name,
what's my name ♪
2059
01:29:09,655 --> 01:29:11,537
♪ Chicka Slim Shady ♪
2060
01:29:11,620 --> 01:29:13,965
[explosion]
2061
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:21,655
This album is about,
I'm not holding back.
2062
01:29:21,793 --> 01:29:24,192
I'm gonna do everything
I can to get canceled.
2063
01:29:24,275 --> 01:29:26,020
♪ If I think that shit,
I'ma say that shit ♪
2064
01:29:26,103 --> 01:29:27,882
♪ Cancel me, what,
OK, that's it ♪
2065
01:29:27,965 --> 01:29:29,241
♪ Go ahead, Paul, quit ♪
2066
01:29:29,344 --> 01:29:30,951
I'm not sure people
actually understand now
2067
01:29:31,034 --> 01:29:32,275
that Slim Shady is a character.
2068
01:29:32,379 --> 01:29:34,365
I feel like the new album
just offended more people,
2069
01:29:34,448 --> 01:29:37,068
but I think that that was
kind of the intention.
2070
01:29:37,172 --> 01:29:38,882
The world is in a
very different place
2071
01:29:38,965 --> 01:29:41,620
to where it was in 1999.
2072
01:29:41,758 --> 01:29:43,448
Gen Z wants to cancel him.
2073
01:29:43,551 --> 01:29:45,020
Nobody can cancel Eminem.
2074
01:29:45,103 --> 01:29:46,241
Jesus Christ himself
2075
01:29:46,344 --> 01:29:48,758
will have to come down
and cancel Eminem,
2076
01:29:48,862 --> 01:29:50,241
and he ain't coming down either.
2077
01:29:50,344 --> 01:29:54,482
As his fan base, we all
grew into this whole family,
2078
01:29:54,620 --> 01:29:56,227
and we're going to
protect this man
2079
01:29:56,310 --> 01:29:58,192
by any means necessary.
2080
01:29:58,275 --> 01:30:00,275
Going online and seeing people
2081
01:30:00,379 --> 01:30:02,103
trying to cancel Eminem,
2082
01:30:02,241 --> 01:30:03,586
that is soft,
2083
01:30:03,689 --> 01:30:06,103
and fuck you if
you don't like it.
2084
01:30:06,206 --> 01:30:08,537
Throw up a middle finger
and let it linger.
2085
01:30:08,620 --> 01:30:11,241
I don't give a fuck, mostly.
2086
01:30:11,344 --> 01:30:12,503
Calm down, Slim.
2087
01:30:12,586 --> 01:30:14,344
We both made Eminem.
2088
01:30:14,448 --> 01:30:16,241
He's the best of both of us.
2089
01:30:16,344 --> 01:30:18,517
And, really, it's
not about me or you.
2090
01:30:18,620 --> 01:30:21,241
It's about him and the fans.
2091
01:30:21,344 --> 01:30:23,172
Damn.
2092
01:30:23,275 --> 01:30:25,620
I don't even want
to fucking admit it,
2093
01:30:25,724 --> 01:30:28,089
but your bitch ass is right.
2094
01:30:28,172 --> 01:30:29,551
I'm embarrassed.
2095
01:30:29,655 --> 01:30:31,655
When I'm in Paris,
I'm embarrassed
2096
01:30:31,758 --> 01:30:33,724
of my parents' parrot.
2097
01:30:42,517 --> 01:30:45,054
I'm sure 200%, 1,000%.
2098
01:30:45,137 --> 01:30:46,827
[indistinct chatter]
2099
01:30:46,965 --> 01:30:49,482
Everyone, no matter
how old or young,
2100
01:30:49,586 --> 01:30:51,089
will appreciate Eminem's music.
2101
01:30:51,172 --> 01:30:54,537
♪ A-B-C-D, A-B-C-D ♪
2102
01:30:54,620 --> 01:30:56,931
♪ E-F-G, E-F-G ♪
2103
01:30:57,034 --> 01:30:59,448
♪ H-I-J-K, H-I-J-K ♪
2104
01:30:59,551 --> 01:31:01,813
People who have
not been born yet
2105
01:31:01,896 --> 01:31:04,413
will follow his music,
2106
01:31:04,517 --> 01:31:05,827
reopen "The Slim Shady LP,"
2107
01:31:05,931 --> 01:31:07,344
and love him from
start to finish.
2108
01:31:07,448 --> 01:31:09,379
[bright music]
2109
01:31:09,517 --> 01:31:10,758
I'll be looking down proud,
2110
01:31:10,862 --> 01:31:13,330
like, yeah, damn
straight, y'all.
2111
01:31:13,413 --> 01:31:14,862
You get that white tee on.
2112
01:31:14,965 --> 01:31:16,586
You get those baggy blue jeans.
2113
01:31:16,689 --> 01:31:18,206
For sure. Rock it.
2114
01:31:18,344 --> 01:31:21,517
A hundred years from now,
in the catalogs of catalogs,
2115
01:31:21,620 --> 01:31:24,448
you'll be able to go back
and listen to "Lose Yourself"
2116
01:31:24,551 --> 01:31:28,724
or "The Way I Am," and you'll
know Eminem was that guy.
2117
01:31:28,862 --> 01:31:30,517
All great artists
have the ability
2118
01:31:30,620 --> 01:31:32,206
to reinvent themselves.
2119
01:31:32,310 --> 01:31:34,586
And yet, I feel like every
time a lot of artists
2120
01:31:34,689 --> 01:31:37,158
do that, they always sacrifice
a little bit of something,
2121
01:31:37,241 --> 01:31:40,330
and Marshall's never
sacrificed anything.
2122
01:31:40,413 --> 01:31:44,503
He's, like, remained true
to the first day I met him.
2123
01:31:44,586 --> 01:31:46,517
I'm just happy I
went after my dreams
2124
01:31:46,620 --> 01:31:49,172
'cause it inspired another
kid to go after his dreams,
2125
01:31:49,275 --> 01:31:50,379
you know?
2126
01:31:50,517 --> 01:31:53,379
The fact that he had
enough personal empathy
2127
01:31:53,517 --> 01:31:57,586
to write something where
2128
01:31:57,724 --> 01:32:01,310
the fans' feelings
are being considered
2129
01:32:01,413 --> 01:32:03,586
tells you who he
is, and for that,
2130
01:32:03,689 --> 01:32:05,620
I love and respect him.
2131
01:32:05,758 --> 01:32:07,917
It's a crazy thing
when all of a sudden
2132
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,227
you go from being someone
no one cares about
2133
01:32:11,310 --> 01:32:14,172
to someone that a lot
of people care about.
2134
01:32:14,275 --> 01:32:17,965
What he's done with his
life is extraordinary.
2135
01:32:18,068 --> 01:32:22,413
He has grown to be a
fantastic human being
2136
01:32:22,517 --> 01:32:26,655
that is really fucking
dope at his craft.
2137
01:32:26,793 --> 01:32:30,586
He's an amazing father,
and I can't wait to see
2138
01:32:30,689 --> 01:32:33,068
what he's going to
turn out to be next.
2139
01:32:36,965 --> 01:32:40,413
Coming here, were you
expecting to see Eminem?
2140
01:32:40,517 --> 01:32:42,827
Maybe. [laughs]
2141
01:32:42,931 --> 01:32:45,310
I don't... that
would be really cool.
2142
01:32:45,413 --> 01:32:48,054
Half yes, half no.
2143
01:32:48,137 --> 01:32:49,758
Yes and no.
2144
01:32:49,896 --> 01:32:51,020
I didn't really expect it,
2145
01:32:51,103 --> 01:32:52,399
but I had thoughts
about it, you know?
2146
01:32:52,482 --> 01:32:56,586
I was hoping that Eminem
was going to be here.
2147
01:32:56,724 --> 01:32:57,965
He's a busy man.
2148
01:32:58,103 --> 01:32:59,330
He's got a song that
he just dropped.
2149
01:32:59,413 --> 01:33:01,053
He's got an album that
he's dropping soon.
2150
01:33:01,137 --> 01:33:02,606
I just wouldn't think
he had the time.
2151
01:33:02,689 --> 01:33:04,123
Oh, my God, what
would I even do?
2152
01:33:04,206 --> 01:33:05,123
What would I even say?
2153
01:33:05,206 --> 01:33:07,606
I would probably just throw up.
2154
01:33:07,689 --> 01:33:09,261
[laughs] I don't know.
2155
01:33:09,344 --> 01:33:11,779
If I ever met Eminem,
I would probably die.
2156
01:33:11,862 --> 01:33:13,482
I don't even know, man.
2157
01:33:13,586 --> 01:33:15,103
I'd be speechless.
2158
01:33:17,103 --> 01:33:18,379
2013.
2159
01:33:18,517 --> 01:33:20,862
He was in Paris
for his new album.
2160
01:33:26,103 --> 01:33:28,468
And the car, they're going.
2161
01:33:28,551 --> 01:33:32,206
And I was like, no,
I'm not going to...
2162
01:33:32,310 --> 01:33:36,779
to see Marshall, and
15 seconds later,
2163
01:33:36,862 --> 01:33:38,827
the car stopped.
2164
01:33:42,137 --> 01:33:45,172
"Marshall want to see you."
2165
01:33:45,310 --> 01:33:49,379
And every fan who was there
2166
01:33:49,517 --> 01:33:52,123
turned their head on me.
2167
01:33:52,206 --> 01:33:54,724
He knew my name, so I was like,
2168
01:33:54,827 --> 01:33:57,620
holy shit, he knew my name.
2169
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:17,068
The bodyguard was like,
2170
01:34:17,206 --> 01:34:20,655
OK, OK, OK, Zolt,
you go in the car.
2171
01:34:45,413 --> 01:34:46,896
Man, thank you.
2172
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:49,103
Thank you for your
music, for everything.
2173
01:34:59,896 --> 01:35:02,227
When you're an
artist like Marshall,
2174
01:35:02,310 --> 01:35:03,482
you don't have time.
2175
01:35:03,586 --> 01:35:06,068
You do not have
time for anything.
2176
01:35:09,068 --> 01:35:10,482
[camera shutter clicks]
2177
01:35:15,827 --> 01:35:18,034
I think he probably was shocked
2178
01:35:18,137 --> 01:35:21,951
because nobody will
tell him you have to go.
2179
01:35:22,034 --> 01:35:26,689
But, you know, I'm the
guy who respect his time.
2180
01:35:44,241 --> 01:35:46,310
[engine rumbles]
2181
01:35:51,793 --> 01:35:58,862
♪ ♪
2182
01:36:12,758 --> 01:36:17,779
I think that people
imagine Stans as being,
2183
01:36:17,862 --> 01:36:19,586
you know, violent and deranged.
2184
01:36:19,724 --> 01:36:23,724
But in reality, being
a Stan and being a fan
2185
01:36:23,827 --> 01:36:27,655
can actually be a positive
and beautiful thing.
2186
01:36:29,758 --> 01:36:32,206
I've lost a lot of
people in my life,
2187
01:36:32,310 --> 01:36:35,206
but the one thing that has
really gotten me through
2188
01:36:35,310 --> 01:36:37,779
all those losses
has been Eminem.
2189
01:36:37,862 --> 01:36:39,724
Eminem has always
been a constant
2190
01:36:39,827 --> 01:36:42,517
throughout my entire
life, and for a long time,
2191
01:36:42,620 --> 01:36:44,123
I really felt unlucky
2192
01:36:44,206 --> 01:36:46,275
because I wasn't
able to meet him.
2193
01:36:46,379 --> 01:36:47,985
It's like the
carrot's right there,
2194
01:36:48,068 --> 01:36:50,896
but it's like I can't
figure out how to get to it.
2195
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:53,034
Now my mindset has changed,
because I feel like
2196
01:36:53,137 --> 01:36:56,034
this documentary is
a lot more personal
2197
01:36:56,137 --> 01:37:00,931
than it would be just me
to Em saying, hi, huge fan,
2198
01:37:01,068 --> 01:37:02,482
take a picture.
2199
01:37:02,620 --> 01:37:05,310
Now he kind of can understand
exactly how I've become a...
2200
01:37:05,413 --> 01:37:07,482
like, how I've been
a fan for so long
2201
01:37:07,620 --> 01:37:11,103
and, like, similar
kind of struggles,
2202
01:37:11,241 --> 01:37:12,744
I guess, we've been through,
2203
01:37:12,827 --> 01:37:16,310
and just how his music has
truly influenced my life
2204
01:37:16,413 --> 01:37:21,275
and helped me through really,
you know, traumatic times.
2205
01:37:21,413 --> 01:37:24,931
But a true die-hard fan
really does, I think,
2206
01:37:25,034 --> 01:37:31,020
understand me and
every aspect of me
2207
01:37:31,103 --> 01:37:35,172
and understands that I
am just a regular person.
2208
01:37:35,275 --> 01:37:38,241
I'm just a fucking human being.
2209
01:37:40,241 --> 01:37:42,758
The reason they connect
with me is because
2210
01:37:42,862 --> 01:37:45,344
they see some of
themselves in me.
2211
01:37:48,793 --> 01:37:50,917
Maybe they were
bullied as a kid.
2212
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:54,275
Maybe the world fucking
dealt them a raw deal.
2213
01:37:56,413 --> 01:37:59,655
But for every young
person that gets older
2214
01:37:59,793 --> 01:38:03,862
and wants to pay
the world back...
2215
01:38:03,965 --> 01:38:07,744
that's the person that
connects with me the most,
2216
01:38:07,827 --> 01:38:09,689
because they understand me,
2217
01:38:09,827 --> 01:38:11,689
and I feel like I
understand them,
2218
01:38:11,827 --> 01:38:15,606
and I get them because
they're really me.
2219
01:38:15,689 --> 01:38:19,034
The fans that have grown
with me from day one
2220
01:38:19,172 --> 01:38:22,089
till now, it's,
like, unbelievable
2221
01:38:22,172 --> 01:38:23,606
that they're still with me,
2222
01:38:23,689 --> 01:38:25,344
and I'm very blessed to this day
2223
01:38:25,482 --> 01:38:28,965
to still have people that
ride for me like that.
2224
01:38:29,068 --> 01:38:30,965
To my fans, thank you.
2225
01:38:31,068 --> 01:38:33,000
I love y'all, and I am...
2226
01:38:33,103 --> 01:38:35,793
I would not be here,
if it was not for you.
2227
01:38:35,896 --> 01:38:40,000
So I owe you my life,
2228
01:38:40,103 --> 01:38:43,620
and that's who I do
my music for is them,
2229
01:38:43,724 --> 01:38:45,572
and fuck everybody else.
2230
01:38:45,655 --> 01:38:49,344
Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em.
2231
01:38:49,482 --> 01:38:51,586
Eat a dick.
2232
01:38:51,689 --> 01:38:55,517
You don't like it,
eat a fat dick.
2233
01:38:55,620 --> 01:38:58,261
[Dido's "Thank You"]
2234
01:38:58,344 --> 01:39:00,123
Hey, Em, it's Paul again.
2235
01:39:00,206 --> 01:39:04,689
I watched the movie, and we
got to talk about the ending.
2236
01:39:04,793 --> 01:39:07,537
Give me a call back.
2237
01:39:07,620 --> 01:39:11,724
♪ And I want to thank you ♪
2238
01:39:11,827 --> 01:39:13,089
All right, I only
got one minute,
2239
01:39:13,172 --> 01:39:18,448
and I'm at work, and I'm
at, like, 4% on my battery.
2240
01:39:18,551 --> 01:39:20,020
OK, Gracie, one
minute to do this,
2241
01:39:20,103 --> 01:39:21,655
so my daughter's gonna help me.
2242
01:39:21,758 --> 01:39:24,482
Please excuse me. I just got up.
2243
01:39:24,586 --> 01:39:26,365
Um...
2244
01:39:26,448 --> 01:39:29,068
Marshall Mathers is...
2245
01:39:29,172 --> 01:39:31,241
I can't believe I
have this opportunity
2246
01:39:31,344 --> 01:39:34,275
even to make this video,
and you might see this, dog.
2247
01:39:34,413 --> 01:39:37,158
Just know I wouldn't
be me without you.
2248
01:39:37,241 --> 01:39:40,848
I'm your biggest fan,
Marshall Mathers/Eminem.
2249
01:39:40,931 --> 01:39:43,275
Detroit, baby, Detroit.
2250
01:39:43,413 --> 01:39:46,724
I'm Lisa Mathers, and this
is Sir Slim Shady Mathers II,
2251
01:39:46,862 --> 01:39:48,020
but we call him Shady for short.
2252
01:39:48,103 --> 01:39:50,896
Just want you to know
that I'm Em's biggest fan
2253
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,848
because I'm pretty much
the female version of him.
2254
01:39:53,931 --> 01:39:56,241
Was just married August
26th of last year
2255
01:39:56,344 --> 01:39:57,413
and walked down the aisle
2256
01:39:57,517 --> 01:39:59,330
to the instrumental
to "Lose Yourself."
2257
01:39:59,413 --> 01:40:00,620
Bum, bum, bum, bum.
2258
01:40:00,724 --> 01:40:02,123
All my friends and
family were like,
2259
01:40:02,206 --> 01:40:03,413
whoa, let's get it.
2260
01:40:03,517 --> 01:40:06,275
I am Stan. Stan I am.
2261
01:40:06,413 --> 01:40:08,620
It's kind of like
Dr. Seuss, but no.
2262
01:40:08,724 --> 01:40:10,620
I have two Eminem tattoos.
2263
01:40:10,724 --> 01:40:14,724
One on my chest. One
on the other chest.
2264
01:40:14,862 --> 01:40:17,068
And a D12 tattoo.
2265
01:40:17,172 --> 01:40:21,551
I listen to Eminem music
every fucking single day.
2266
01:40:21,689 --> 01:40:24,241
I live Eminem, you can say.
2267
01:40:24,379 --> 01:40:28,344
Mr. Mathers, I love you.
2268
01:40:28,448 --> 01:40:30,310
From Japan.
2269
01:40:30,413 --> 01:40:32,710
This is a piece of the
tree of the old house
2270
01:40:32,793 --> 01:40:35,503
and a flower from the
new house right here.
2271
01:40:35,586 --> 01:40:38,020
Doesn't feel too great,
but, at the same time,
2272
01:40:38,103 --> 01:40:39,068
it kind of does.
2273
01:40:39,172 --> 01:40:40,537
Hello, Eminem.
2274
01:40:40,620 --> 01:40:44,710
I'm a fan, and I listen to
your music all the time.
2275
01:40:44,793 --> 01:40:47,379
Have a wonderful day and
take care of your family.
2276
01:40:47,482 --> 01:40:48,793
Bye.
2277
01:40:48,896 --> 01:40:54,137
♪ Is having the best
day of my life ♪
2278
01:40:54,241 --> 01:41:01,344
♪ ♪
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