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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,448 --> 00:00:10,054 [electronic music] 2 00:00:10,137 --> 00:00:13,758 ♪ MTV ♪ 3 00:00:22,413 --> 00:00:25,482 [rain pattering] 4 00:00:34,068 --> 00:00:36,965 [Eminem's "Stan"] 5 00:00:37,068 --> 00:00:44,068 ♪ ♪ 6 00:01:16,172 --> 00:01:17,827 A lot of people ask me... 7 00:01:17,965 --> 00:01:22,123 8 00:01:22,206 --> 00:01:24,862 Why did you write the song "Stan?" 9 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,310 Is "Stan" based on a real fan? 10 00:01:28,413 --> 00:01:31,779 Why do you share so much about yourself in your music? 11 00:01:31,862 --> 00:01:34,827 What the hell goes on in your brain? 12 00:01:34,965 --> 00:01:37,172 Are you happy? 13 00:01:37,275 --> 00:01:39,468 How's your daughter? 14 00:01:39,551 --> 00:01:41,689 Who is someone that helped you the same way 15 00:01:41,827 --> 00:01:43,172 that you helped me? 16 00:01:43,310 --> 00:01:46,000 Do you feel like the impact you've had 17 00:01:46,137 --> 00:01:48,517 is what you hoped it would be? 18 00:01:48,620 --> 00:01:50,689 What's it like being famous? 19 00:01:50,827 --> 00:01:52,517 How much fan mail do you get? 20 00:01:52,655 --> 00:01:56,482 How does it feel to be followed by so many people? 21 00:01:56,620 --> 00:01:58,344 Have you read my letter? 22 00:01:58,448 --> 00:02:01,330 ♪ ♪ 23 00:02:01,413 --> 00:02:04,586 Is everyone ready? 24 00:02:04,689 --> 00:02:07,330 All right, Marshall, take one. 25 00:02:07,413 --> 00:02:09,689 What's your first question? 26 00:02:09,793 --> 00:02:12,758 [Eminem's "Bad Guy"] 27 00:02:12,862 --> 00:02:15,365 ♪ ♪ 28 00:02:15,448 --> 00:02:19,675 ♪ Time you can see the truth ♪ 29 00:02:19,758 --> 00:02:22,413 ♪ But it's easier to justify ♪ 30 00:02:22,517 --> 00:02:25,103 ♪ What's bad is good ♪ 31 00:02:25,241 --> 00:02:28,724 ♪ And I hate to be the bad guy ♪ 32 00:02:28,827 --> 00:02:31,379 [upbeat music] 33 00:02:31,482 --> 00:02:34,586 ♪ I just hate to be the bad guy ♪ 34 00:02:34,689 --> 00:02:36,724 ♪ ♪ 35 00:02:36,827 --> 00:02:40,620 ♪ I just hate to be the bad guy ♪ 36 00:02:49,517 --> 00:02:54,000 ♪ And I hate to be the bad guy ♪ 37 00:03:14,655 --> 00:03:17,054 Hi, my name is chick a-chick a Slim... 38 00:03:17,137 --> 00:03:20,862 [laughs] I wanted to say Zolt Shady. 39 00:03:20,965 --> 00:03:23,827 Hi, my name is chick a-chick a-chick a 40 00:03:23,931 --> 00:03:24,931 Zolt Shady. 41 00:03:25,034 --> 00:03:26,227 Hi, my name is Alex. 42 00:03:26,310 --> 00:03:27,793 Hi, my name is Daniyela. 43 00:03:27,896 --> 00:03:29,310 Hi, my name is Giovanni. 44 00:03:29,448 --> 00:03:30,793 Hi, my name is Brooklyn. 45 00:03:30,896 --> 00:03:32,172 Hi, my name is James. 46 00:03:32,310 --> 00:03:33,261 Hi, my name is Kyle. 47 00:03:33,344 --> 00:03:34,827 Hi. "My Name Is." 48 00:03:34,965 --> 00:03:36,310 -Well, no, you... -[laughs] 49 00:03:36,448 --> 00:03:40,261 I'm s... I thought you mean it like the song. 50 00:03:40,344 --> 00:03:43,882 [laughs] Hi, my name is Nikki. 51 00:03:43,965 --> 00:03:46,000 Let me just put my cape on. 52 00:03:48,724 --> 00:03:51,862 I don't even know what these look like on. 53 00:03:51,965 --> 00:03:55,655 [laughs] Too much? 54 00:03:55,793 --> 00:03:58,344 [laughs] It's called the Eminem. 55 00:03:58,482 --> 00:04:00,862 Um, it's based off... in his music video 56 00:04:00,965 --> 00:04:02,068 "Without Me." 57 00:04:02,206 --> 00:04:07,158 Um, although I did leave my plastic ass at home, 58 00:04:07,241 --> 00:04:10,034 but this is my costume. 59 00:04:10,137 --> 00:04:12,641 [laughs] This is art. 60 00:04:12,724 --> 00:04:16,034 [laughs] This is crazy. 61 00:04:16,137 --> 00:04:17,813 Early Eminem, Slim Shady. 62 00:04:17,896 --> 00:04:19,896 This is the type of mask that he always wore 63 00:04:20,034 --> 00:04:22,641 in every concert, early 2000s, 64 00:04:22,724 --> 00:04:23,896 everything like that. 65 00:04:24,034 --> 00:04:27,172 How and why does a white T-shirt become iconic? 66 00:04:27,275 --> 00:04:32,158 Because, uh, there's a Slim Shady in all of us. 67 00:04:32,241 --> 00:04:33,413 When he wears that shirt, 68 00:04:33,517 --> 00:04:35,123 and when I wear that shirt as well, 69 00:04:35,206 --> 00:04:37,468 it symbolizes unity. 70 00:04:37,551 --> 00:04:41,172 They, um, have an Eminem subreddit, r/eminem, 71 00:04:41,275 --> 00:04:42,862 and I enjoy being there. 72 00:04:42,965 --> 00:04:45,724 It's actually, uh, where I found my people. 73 00:04:45,862 --> 00:04:48,158 So I follow him on all social medias. 74 00:04:48,241 --> 00:04:50,468 Every social media that he has, that I have, 75 00:04:50,551 --> 00:04:51,689 I will follow him on. 76 00:04:51,793 --> 00:04:53,985 I, like, followed him every... 77 00:04:54,068 --> 00:04:55,330 not followed him everywhere, 'cause that 78 00:04:55,413 --> 00:04:57,068 sounds weird and creepy. [laughs] 79 00:04:57,172 --> 00:04:59,344 You should see what my explore page 80 00:04:59,448 --> 00:05:00,620 on Instagram looks like. 81 00:05:00,724 --> 00:05:02,675 Eminem, Eminem, cute puppies, 82 00:05:02,758 --> 00:05:04,586 Eminem, Eminem, horror movies, 83 00:05:04,689 --> 00:05:06,586 Eminem, Eminem, hairstyles. 84 00:05:06,689 --> 00:05:08,275 Stuff like that. 85 00:05:08,379 --> 00:05:11,586 I wake up every morning, and it is a habit. 86 00:05:11,724 --> 00:05:13,275 It's a ritualistic routine. 87 00:05:13,379 --> 00:05:15,710 I think I do have an addiction to Eminem. 88 00:05:15,793 --> 00:05:17,620 Occasionally, like, I'll go into, like, 89 00:05:17,724 --> 00:05:20,758 a YouTube, like, rabbit hole where 90 00:05:20,862 --> 00:05:22,620 I'll, like, watch old performances 91 00:05:22,724 --> 00:05:24,020 or music videos or interviews. 92 00:05:24,103 --> 00:05:26,103 And, like, what people could say in interviews 93 00:05:26,206 --> 00:05:28,344 25 years ago versus what they could say now, like, 94 00:05:28,448 --> 00:05:30,000 half the shit he said was insane. 95 00:05:30,103 --> 00:05:31,241 [hip-hop music] 96 00:05:31,344 --> 00:05:32,655 All right, y'all. 97 00:05:32,758 --> 00:05:33,710 Back here live on the "Rap City" thing. 98 00:05:33,793 --> 00:05:34,793 I'm looking for my man. 99 00:05:34,896 --> 00:05:36,586 My man is not... 100 00:05:36,724 --> 00:05:37,931 Ow! 101 00:05:38,034 --> 00:05:39,710 Ow! 102 00:05:39,793 --> 00:05:42,827 [sped-up speech] 103 00:05:42,931 --> 00:05:44,586 Yo, cut the cameras, man. 104 00:05:44,724 --> 00:05:45,586 Come on, dog. 105 00:05:45,724 --> 00:05:47,054 Come on. Come on. 106 00:05:47,137 --> 00:05:48,137 -You all right? -Hey! 107 00:05:48,275 --> 00:05:49,468 -One... -Ladies and gentlemen... 108 00:05:49,551 --> 00:05:50,631 And a-two, and a-three... 109 00:05:50,724 --> 00:05:51,655 Insane. 110 00:05:51,758 --> 00:05:53,103 This guy's insane. 111 00:05:53,206 --> 00:05:55,710 Ladies and gentlemen, introducing Eminem. 112 00:05:55,793 --> 00:05:57,675 [imitates cheering crowd] Y'all give it up for Eminem. 113 00:05:57,758 --> 00:05:59,054 [imitates cheering crowd] 114 00:05:59,137 --> 00:06:00,054 -What's up, dog? -What's up, man? 115 00:06:00,137 --> 00:06:01,517 How you doing? 116 00:06:01,620 --> 00:06:03,434 That right there, it brought me back so much. 117 00:06:03,517 --> 00:06:06,951 Just the energy that he came in when he was onscreen 118 00:06:07,034 --> 00:06:08,482 was a different type of energy. 119 00:06:08,620 --> 00:06:10,310 [dramatic music] 120 00:06:10,413 --> 00:06:12,399 This is an artist called Eminem. 121 00:06:12,482 --> 00:06:13,655 It's spelled funky. 122 00:06:13,758 --> 00:06:14,620 If you're going to pronounce it, 123 00:06:14,724 --> 00:06:16,089 it's like the candy. Eminem. 124 00:06:16,172 --> 00:06:18,448 I'm keeping it gangster, homie. 125 00:06:18,551 --> 00:06:20,296 I'm keeping it gangster. 126 00:06:20,379 --> 00:06:22,572 I am flexing my bum-bum. 127 00:06:22,655 --> 00:06:24,517 [laughter] 128 00:06:24,620 --> 00:06:25,724 There was a shock factor 129 00:06:25,827 --> 00:06:27,468 when I was first discovering Eminem. 130 00:06:27,551 --> 00:06:30,000 Here's Eminem doing one of the best Michael Jackson 131 00:06:30,103 --> 00:06:31,379 impersonations I've ever seen. 132 00:06:31,482 --> 00:06:33,089 He was definitely a loose cannon. 133 00:06:33,172 --> 00:06:34,241 Mom! 134 00:06:34,344 --> 00:06:36,379 No, yes, you did molest me. 135 00:06:36,482 --> 00:06:37,917 This dude, he's got a good sense of humor, 136 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,434 and he's willing to express his art, you know, 137 00:06:40,517 --> 00:06:41,862 with no boundaries. 138 00:06:41,965 --> 00:06:44,951 I was 10 years old sitting at home watching MTV 139 00:06:45,034 --> 00:06:47,089 in hopes to see the Backstreet Boys 140 00:06:47,172 --> 00:06:48,862 or NSYNC come on, 141 00:06:48,965 --> 00:06:50,862 but it was Marshall Mathers. 142 00:06:50,965 --> 00:06:53,379 Slim Shady came on with "My Name Is," 143 00:06:53,482 --> 00:06:55,482 and my whole life changed after that. 144 00:06:55,586 --> 00:06:56,572 [Eminem's "My Name Is"] 145 00:06:56,655 --> 00:06:58,827 ♪ Hi, my name is, what ♪ 146 00:06:58,931 --> 00:07:00,241 ♪ My name is, who ♪ 147 00:07:00,344 --> 00:07:02,503 ♪ My name is chick a-chick a Slim Shady ♪ 148 00:07:02,586 --> 00:07:04,103 ♪ Hi, my name is, huh ♪ 149 00:07:04,241 --> 00:07:05,482 ♪ My name is ♪ 150 00:07:05,586 --> 00:07:08,192 I was coming home from the police academy, 151 00:07:08,275 --> 00:07:10,675 and I hear, "Hi, my name is." 152 00:07:10,758 --> 00:07:12,448 And I was like, what is this? 153 00:07:12,551 --> 00:07:14,482 And so I listened to it all the way home. 154 00:07:14,586 --> 00:07:16,330 It's not like anything else I've heard before. 155 00:07:16,413 --> 00:07:17,586 I'm in. 156 00:07:17,689 --> 00:07:19,310 ♪ Chicka-chick a Slim Shady ♪ 157 00:07:19,413 --> 00:07:21,482 ♪ Hi, kids, do you like Primus ♪ 158 00:07:21,620 --> 00:07:23,537 ♪ Wanna see me stick nine-inch nails ♪ 159 00:07:23,620 --> 00:07:24,917 ♪ Through each one of my eyelids ♪ 160 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,137 You want to copy me and do exactly what I did? 161 00:07:27,275 --> 00:07:29,503 Try 'cid and get fucked up worse than my life is? 162 00:07:29,586 --> 00:07:31,965 I was like, what? Yeah! 163 00:07:32,103 --> 00:07:33,241 Sign me up. 164 00:07:33,344 --> 00:07:34,710 I'll do it. [laughs] 165 00:07:34,793 --> 00:07:36,137 ♪ My brain's dead weight ♪ 166 00:07:36,241 --> 00:07:37,537 ♪ I'm trying to get my head straight ♪ 167 00:07:37,620 --> 00:07:39,296 ♪ But I can't figure out which Spice Girl ♪ 168 00:07:39,379 --> 00:07:40,482 ♪ I want to impregnate ♪ 169 00:07:40,586 --> 00:07:41,744 Most of these rappers back then, 170 00:07:41,827 --> 00:07:43,931 they want to portray this, I'm from the streets, 171 00:07:44,034 --> 00:07:46,054 I'm a thug, I'm this, don't fuck with me. 172 00:07:46,137 --> 00:07:47,192 He's just being him. 173 00:07:47,275 --> 00:07:48,931 He's just having a grand time. 174 00:07:49,034 --> 00:07:50,710 ♪ Hi, my name is, what ♪ 175 00:07:50,793 --> 00:07:52,103 ♪ My name is, who ♪ 176 00:07:52,241 --> 00:07:54,275 ♪ My name is chick a-chick a Slim Shady ♪ 177 00:07:54,413 --> 00:07:57,020 Nobody was making those type of music videos. 178 00:07:57,103 --> 00:07:59,882 Most people were like, half-naked, dancing, 179 00:07:59,965 --> 00:08:01,261 doing, like, these big numbers. 180 00:08:01,344 --> 00:08:03,296 And he had, like, storylines. 181 00:08:03,379 --> 00:08:05,344 ♪ 99% of my life, I was lied to ♪ 182 00:08:05,482 --> 00:08:08,344 ♪ I just found out my mom does more dope than I do ♪ 183 00:08:08,482 --> 00:08:11,931 When he started going at these pop culture people, 184 00:08:12,034 --> 00:08:16,261 making fun of them to the T, I'm just like, oh, my God, 185 00:08:16,344 --> 00:08:19,241 dude, this guy really doesn't give a fuck. 186 00:08:19,344 --> 00:08:21,089 I was, like, hypnotized. 187 00:08:21,172 --> 00:08:23,606 Like, my eyes were, like, glued to the screen, 188 00:08:23,689 --> 00:08:29,434 and that kick started my obsession with him. 189 00:08:29,517 --> 00:08:33,034 We be live in Times Square, "Total Request Live," 190 00:08:33,172 --> 00:08:35,172 with the big videos, the most requested ones. 191 00:08:35,275 --> 00:08:36,744 How about a round of applause for Eminem? 192 00:08:36,827 --> 00:08:37,779 Hi. 193 00:08:37,862 --> 00:08:38,896 Making his... 194 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,655 "TRL" at the time was new. 195 00:08:40,758 --> 00:08:42,896 It was always our intent to have it be 196 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,551 an exact reflection of our audience. 197 00:08:45,689 --> 00:08:47,123 It was like, what if we gave one hour of this network 198 00:08:47,206 --> 00:08:48,344 to the fans? 199 00:08:48,448 --> 00:08:49,344 And let's ask them what they want. 200 00:08:49,448 --> 00:08:50,344 Let's take their requests. 201 00:08:50,448 --> 00:08:51,827 I was a radio guy, and we did a lot 202 00:08:51,965 --> 00:08:53,123 of, like, requests in radio. 203 00:08:53,206 --> 00:08:54,206 Who did you want to see? 204 00:08:54,310 --> 00:08:55,689 Congratulations. 205 00:08:55,793 --> 00:08:57,158 "Slim Shady" is going to number two next week... 206 00:08:57,241 --> 00:08:58,172 -Thank you. -On the charts. 207 00:08:58,275 --> 00:08:59,468 Thank you. 208 00:08:59,551 --> 00:09:00,606 That deserves a round of applause right there. 209 00:09:00,689 --> 00:09:03,365 With a little... little bit of help from MTV. 210 00:09:03,448 --> 00:09:05,206 I've seen fans. I've seen it all. 211 00:09:05,310 --> 00:09:09,068 I've never seen anything like Marshall, Eminem fans, ever. 212 00:09:09,172 --> 00:09:10,482 My name is! 213 00:09:10,586 --> 00:09:12,089 How they show up, what they look like, 214 00:09:12,172 --> 00:09:14,985 the connection that they have with this artist, 215 00:09:15,068 --> 00:09:16,675 it's really deep. 216 00:09:16,758 --> 00:09:17,985 The reason why we're here today 217 00:09:18,068 --> 00:09:19,586 is because of his creation of "Stan." 218 00:09:19,689 --> 00:09:21,724 He created a culture that is 219 00:09:21,827 --> 00:09:23,365 so out of the boundary 220 00:09:23,448 --> 00:09:25,413 of regular pop culture 221 00:09:25,517 --> 00:09:27,310 that he made his own term. 222 00:09:27,413 --> 00:09:29,503 Anything I can grab on Eminem, I'll find. 223 00:09:29,586 --> 00:09:33,068 Over a thousand interviews I've watched, rewatched. 224 00:09:33,172 --> 00:09:35,252 He was the first one where I was like, you know what? 225 00:09:35,344 --> 00:09:36,758 I could marry this guy. [laughs] 226 00:09:36,862 --> 00:09:38,655 I would say that I'm a Stan. 227 00:09:38,758 --> 00:09:41,675 I know three albums back to back lyrically, 228 00:09:41,758 --> 00:09:43,931 every single word of... of everything. 229 00:09:44,068 --> 00:09:47,896 I remember being him for the talent show when I was 230 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,034 11 and dressing up, white T-shirt. 231 00:09:50,137 --> 00:09:51,482 I sprayed my hair yellow. 232 00:09:51,586 --> 00:09:54,275 When I was five my brother exposed me to his songs, 233 00:09:54,413 --> 00:09:56,710 and I kept listening to it over and over, 234 00:09:56,793 --> 00:09:58,413 and all my friends were like, oh, my God. 235 00:09:58,517 --> 00:10:01,275 Like, girl, you need to calm down. 236 00:10:01,379 --> 00:10:04,103 I have a book, a specific book that I made. 237 00:10:04,206 --> 00:10:06,365 When I see Eminem, [clicks tongue] 238 00:10:06,448 --> 00:10:07,448 I put it in the book. 239 00:10:11,068 --> 00:10:13,882 There was a point in time where every single magazine 240 00:10:13,965 --> 00:10:17,551 cover you looked at or saw, no matter where you were, 241 00:10:17,655 --> 00:10:19,020 Marshall was on the cover. 242 00:10:19,103 --> 00:10:21,965 [dramatic music] 243 00:10:22,068 --> 00:10:23,931 ♪ ♪ 244 00:10:24,068 --> 00:10:27,503 For so many people admiring you that much 245 00:10:27,586 --> 00:10:29,896 and having such a strong reaction to you, 246 00:10:30,034 --> 00:10:32,537 it must have been, like, a high or something. 247 00:10:32,620 --> 00:10:35,641 And the winner is Eminem, "My Name Is." 248 00:10:35,724 --> 00:10:38,020 I want to thank all the fans 249 00:10:38,103 --> 00:10:39,793 that made "Slim Shady" possible. 250 00:10:39,931 --> 00:10:42,192 All of a sudden, you're skyrocketed into fame, 251 00:10:42,275 --> 00:10:44,241 and it's everything you've ever wanted, 252 00:10:44,344 --> 00:10:45,468 everything you ever dreamed of. 253 00:10:45,551 --> 00:10:48,068 I can't even imagine that. 254 00:10:48,172 --> 00:10:51,724 Has it ever felt normal in any sense of that word? 255 00:10:51,862 --> 00:10:54,468 Well, none of this is normal. 256 00:10:54,551 --> 00:10:55,537 None of it's normal. 257 00:10:55,620 --> 00:10:57,620 Once the "Hi, My Name Is" video, 258 00:10:57,758 --> 00:11:02,606 once MTV accepted that and played it, 259 00:11:02,689 --> 00:11:05,655 it was like a fucking switch went off overnight. 260 00:11:05,793 --> 00:11:08,434 And all of a sudden, I woke up the next day from that, 261 00:11:08,517 --> 00:11:12,482 and my entire life was changed forever. 262 00:11:12,620 --> 00:11:15,310 Um, uh, we're gonna go to, uh, my old house, 263 00:11:15,413 --> 00:11:16,468 and I'm going to knock on the door 264 00:11:16,551 --> 00:11:17,572 and see if I can get in 265 00:11:17,655 --> 00:11:19,689 'cause I left something in my room. 266 00:11:19,793 --> 00:11:21,137 This is the house. 267 00:11:21,275 --> 00:11:22,917 See back there, that used to be a garage. 268 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,517 One of my longtime friends, Deshaun Holton. 269 00:11:25,620 --> 00:11:27,137 He's a rapper too. His name is Proof. 270 00:11:27,275 --> 00:11:28,985 He used to take me up in the lunchroom at Osborn. 271 00:11:29,068 --> 00:11:30,448 What's up, dog? 272 00:11:30,551 --> 00:11:32,744 I used to battle, like, a lot of kids in the school. 273 00:11:32,827 --> 00:11:34,882 Proof was Eminem's best friend. 274 00:11:34,965 --> 00:11:37,227 He was there from the beginning. 275 00:11:37,310 --> 00:11:39,275 Proof gave him a lot of the confidence 276 00:11:39,379 --> 00:11:40,517 and a lot of courage. 277 00:11:40,655 --> 00:11:41,572 The illest story is we used to do 278 00:11:41,655 --> 00:11:43,054 the "White Men Can't Jump" thing. 279 00:11:43,137 --> 00:11:44,482 I used to go in to sneak him... 280 00:11:44,586 --> 00:11:45,965 I used to sneak him into Osborn, 281 00:11:46,068 --> 00:11:47,710 and everybody would be like, I'll battle you, man. 282 00:11:47,793 --> 00:11:48,793 I'll battle. 283 00:11:48,931 --> 00:11:50,917 I'm like, you ain't can't battle me. 284 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,448 Why don't you battle him? 285 00:11:52,551 --> 00:11:54,137 And they'd be like, oh, the white boy? 286 00:11:54,241 --> 00:11:56,275 [laughs] I'ma kill him! 287 00:11:56,379 --> 00:11:57,551 I'ma kill him! 288 00:11:57,655 --> 00:11:58,985 Then he'd come out busting a rhyme... 289 00:11:59,068 --> 00:12:00,896 [trilling tongue] 290 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,123 Everybody and they friends like... 291 00:12:02,206 --> 00:12:03,468 [laughs] 292 00:12:03,551 --> 00:12:05,931 One of the reasons I love Eminem's story 293 00:12:06,034 --> 00:12:09,724 is because he didn't set out to become famous. 294 00:12:09,862 --> 00:12:12,158 He loves his art. He loves what he does. 295 00:12:12,241 --> 00:12:13,813 Hello, I'm Slim Shady. 296 00:12:13,896 --> 00:12:16,296 I don't think he ever could have seen 297 00:12:16,379 --> 00:12:19,000 where it would have gone to. 298 00:12:19,103 --> 00:12:21,296 I cut class... don't tell my mother... 299 00:12:21,379 --> 00:12:22,813 and... [laughs] 300 00:12:22,896 --> 00:12:24,724 And we were sitting in my boy's house, 301 00:12:24,827 --> 00:12:28,862 and we had MTV playing, and my boys were just like, 302 00:12:28,965 --> 00:12:30,517 oh, just another white rapper. 303 00:12:30,620 --> 00:12:32,434 And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 304 00:12:32,517 --> 00:12:35,068 I've never heard anybody do it like he did it. 305 00:12:35,206 --> 00:12:36,882 And that's when I started going down that wormhole. 306 00:12:36,965 --> 00:12:38,517 [dial-up modem beeping] 307 00:12:38,620 --> 00:12:40,241 Where did he come from? 308 00:12:40,344 --> 00:12:42,827 Where was his origin story? 309 00:12:42,931 --> 00:12:44,379 ♪ Bus it, what? ♪ 310 00:12:44,482 --> 00:12:46,896 ♪ It's only fair to warn I was born with a set of horns ♪ 311 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,551 ♪ And metaphors attached to my dang umbilical cord ♪ 312 00:12:49,689 --> 00:12:52,503 ♪ Warlord of rap that'll bash you with a 2x4 board ♪ 313 00:12:52,586 --> 00:12:55,379 ♪ And smash into your Honda Accord with a four-door Ford ♪ 314 00:12:55,482 --> 00:12:57,758 [laughter] 315 00:13:00,241 --> 00:13:03,399 ♪ Look, any rapper saying those kind of rhymes ♪ 316 00:13:03,482 --> 00:13:05,965 ♪ In this day and age, in this period of time ♪ 317 00:13:06,068 --> 00:13:08,448 ♪ Trying to battle Eminem is worse than David Starr ♪ 318 00:13:08,586 --> 00:13:11,020 ♪ Trying to battle Proof, Eye-Kyu, B-Fat, and Bizarre ♪ 319 00:13:11,103 --> 00:13:12,448 [laughter] 320 00:13:12,551 --> 00:13:15,137 When I found out that this is a battle rap rapper, 321 00:13:15,241 --> 00:13:18,537 and rapping all these Black rappers in Detroit? 322 00:13:18,620 --> 00:13:19,931 ♪ Look, my face is pale ♪ 323 00:13:20,034 --> 00:13:21,931 ♪ But you look like you seen a ghost ♪ 324 00:13:22,034 --> 00:13:23,296 I knew this was a matter of time 325 00:13:23,379 --> 00:13:24,793 that this guy was going to make it. 326 00:13:24,931 --> 00:13:26,399 I've been rhyming a long time, 327 00:13:26,482 --> 00:13:28,448 and battle rap is everything, 328 00:13:28,551 --> 00:13:29,931 you know what I'm saying? 329 00:13:30,034 --> 00:13:35,241 It is the equivalent of being completely vetted in hip-hop, 330 00:13:35,344 --> 00:13:36,365 you know what I'm saying? 331 00:13:36,448 --> 00:13:38,000 Because you learn crowd control, 332 00:13:38,103 --> 00:13:40,448 those lyrical choices, that storytelling. 333 00:13:40,551 --> 00:13:42,793 That's not stuff that you can make up. 334 00:13:42,896 --> 00:13:44,275 You can't fake that. 335 00:13:44,379 --> 00:13:46,655 Eminem is forged in battle rap. 336 00:13:46,793 --> 00:13:49,365 He's what I call a natural-born killer. 337 00:13:49,448 --> 00:13:51,310 And then he took that to the Rap Olympics, 338 00:13:51,448 --> 00:13:55,054 where all the best rappers battle for number one. 339 00:13:55,137 --> 00:13:57,068 ♪ I'ma tell you this for your own benefit ♪ 340 00:13:57,172 --> 00:13:58,572 ♪ Your shit was dope as hell ♪ 341 00:13:58,655 --> 00:14:00,123 ♪ Especially when you wrote 90% of it ♪ 342 00:14:00,206 --> 00:14:04,296 The first prize was $500, and I needed that $500, man, 343 00:14:04,379 --> 00:14:05,517 and I lost. 344 00:14:05,620 --> 00:14:07,379 I was fucking devastated. 345 00:14:07,517 --> 00:14:12,000 For him to lose, he was crushed. 346 00:14:12,137 --> 00:14:14,744 But an intern approached him and said, "Hey, man, 347 00:14:14,827 --> 00:14:16,434 can I have one of your tapes?" 348 00:14:16,517 --> 00:14:18,606 And then he left to go back home to Detroit 349 00:14:18,689 --> 00:14:21,172 to try to continue to make music. 350 00:14:21,310 --> 00:14:24,000 All of a sudden, we get a call from Jimmy Iovine 351 00:14:24,103 --> 00:14:27,137 and Dre himself saying, "We want to meet with you. 352 00:14:27,241 --> 00:14:28,827 We like your tape." 353 00:14:28,965 --> 00:14:30,724 Dr. Dre, to me, 354 00:14:30,827 --> 00:14:33,896 is the greatest producer of our time. 355 00:14:34,034 --> 00:14:36,724 ♪ You never been on a ride like this before ♪ 356 00:14:36,827 --> 00:14:38,985 ♪ With a producer who can rap and control the micstro ♪ 357 00:14:39,068 --> 00:14:40,172 ♪ At the same time ♪ 358 00:14:40,275 --> 00:14:41,862 The first time I heard Eminem was in, 359 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,089 um, Jimmy's garage, where he used 360 00:14:44,172 --> 00:14:45,606 to have a listening section. 361 00:14:45,689 --> 00:14:47,724 And back then, it was just cassette tapes, 362 00:14:47,862 --> 00:14:49,951 and he popped this one in, and he said, 363 00:14:50,034 --> 00:14:51,296 "What do you think about this?" 364 00:14:51,379 --> 00:14:52,882 And it just happened to be Eminem's demo, 365 00:14:52,965 --> 00:14:54,827 and it had five songs on it, and one of them 366 00:14:54,965 --> 00:14:57,813 was a song called "I Just Don't Give a Fuck." 367 00:14:57,896 --> 00:14:59,917 ♪ When you see me on your block with two Glocks ♪ 368 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,848 ♪ Screaming fuck the world like Tupac ♪ 369 00:15:01,931 --> 00:15:03,275 ♪ I just don't give a fuck ♪ 370 00:15:03,379 --> 00:15:05,503 I thought it was just fucking fascinating. 371 00:15:05,586 --> 00:15:08,068 I had no idea that what I was listening to 372 00:15:08,172 --> 00:15:09,551 was a white guy, right? 373 00:15:09,655 --> 00:15:10,848 I had no idea. 374 00:15:10,931 --> 00:15:12,848 I just knew that I wanted to work with him. 375 00:15:12,931 --> 00:15:14,985 Dre was just all in. 376 00:15:15,068 --> 00:15:18,103 And when Dre likes something that much, 377 00:15:18,206 --> 00:15:20,537 we really pay attention, especially me. 378 00:15:20,620 --> 00:15:24,413 So I was kind of like, OK, fly this guy out here. 379 00:15:24,517 --> 00:15:25,848 And when you first met, 380 00:15:25,931 --> 00:15:27,211 what did you think of each other? 381 00:15:27,310 --> 00:15:28,641 I thought he was Tweety Bird. 382 00:15:28,724 --> 00:15:31,068 [laughter] 383 00:15:31,172 --> 00:15:33,137 -No, 'cause he had this real... -Fuck you. 384 00:15:33,241 --> 00:15:36,931 He had this real bright fucking yellow sweat suit on. 385 00:15:37,034 --> 00:15:38,330 Man, if I hear one more thing 386 00:15:38,413 --> 00:15:40,758 about that goddamn sweat suit. 387 00:15:40,862 --> 00:15:42,896 Why are you wearing a yellow sash? 388 00:15:43,034 --> 00:15:44,103 The yellow sash. 389 00:15:44,241 --> 00:15:46,848 Um, in honor of Eminem's yellow jumpsuit 390 00:15:46,931 --> 00:15:48,848 the day he met Dre, which I think is just 391 00:15:48,931 --> 00:15:50,655 such a magical moment in itself. 392 00:15:50,758 --> 00:15:53,192 But he called me a banana when he met me, 393 00:15:53,275 --> 00:15:56,241 so it was on from there. 394 00:15:56,379 --> 00:15:58,813 Dre has always been pushing the edges. 395 00:15:58,896 --> 00:16:02,000 And this guy starts on the edge, 396 00:16:02,103 --> 00:16:05,917 so it was a... it was a marriage made somewhere. 397 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,517 [laughs] 398 00:16:07,620 --> 00:16:11,434 Without Dre, I don't know where Eminem would be, 399 00:16:11,517 --> 00:16:15,000 and what shaped him in his earlier life 400 00:16:15,103 --> 00:16:17,620 carries on with him even now. 401 00:16:17,724 --> 00:16:19,137 [line beeps] 402 00:16:19,241 --> 00:16:21,551 Hey, Em, what's going on? It's Paul. 403 00:16:21,655 --> 00:16:23,137 Uh, listen, if you wanna talk 404 00:16:23,241 --> 00:16:25,261 to those camera crews, go ahead, 405 00:16:25,344 --> 00:16:27,089 just don't say a bunch of dumb shit. 406 00:16:27,172 --> 00:16:28,793 All right, call me back. 407 00:16:28,931 --> 00:16:30,758 [line clicks] 408 00:16:30,862 --> 00:16:33,034 There's a lot of method to this madness. 409 00:16:33,137 --> 00:16:36,054 I always keep this shit, Entertainer's Secret. 410 00:16:36,137 --> 00:16:38,551 Shh. Don't tell nobody. 411 00:16:38,655 --> 00:16:42,744 Um, it's, uh... actually, Rick Rubin told me about this, 412 00:16:42,827 --> 00:16:45,482 and ever since the day he told me about it, 413 00:16:45,586 --> 00:16:48,827 I've been using it for the past seven years straight. 414 00:16:48,965 --> 00:16:52,034 I use it onstage. It's fucking incredible. 415 00:16:52,137 --> 00:16:56,448 Especially, like, you know, my voice only lasts so long, 416 00:16:56,551 --> 00:16:59,137 especially if I'm doing, like, some, like, 417 00:16:59,275 --> 00:17:00,689 screaming shit or something. 418 00:17:00,793 --> 00:17:04,517 So like, this is the... this is my best friend right here. 419 00:17:04,620 --> 00:17:06,655 What's it taste like? 420 00:17:06,758 --> 00:17:08,689 Uh, semen. 421 00:17:08,793 --> 00:17:11,551 Not that I know how that tastes. 422 00:17:11,655 --> 00:17:17,206 But if I were to guess, I would say semen. 423 00:17:17,310 --> 00:17:18,641 I go through pens. 424 00:17:18,724 --> 00:17:20,296 I did go through a couple years 425 00:17:20,379 --> 00:17:23,172 where I was trying to use red ink and blue ink, 426 00:17:23,275 --> 00:17:25,848 different colored inks for different color ideas, 427 00:17:25,931 --> 00:17:27,951 like different ideas and shit, but it didn't work. 428 00:17:28,034 --> 00:17:31,931 I just stuck to the black and just stayed with it. 429 00:17:32,034 --> 00:17:34,641 Every time I write, there's different stages of it, 430 00:17:34,724 --> 00:17:38,206 and that's one of the reasons that I keep a book now 431 00:17:38,310 --> 00:17:39,896 and I never get writer's block. 432 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,985 ♪ ♪ 433 00:17:43,068 --> 00:17:45,586 I'm always able to go back in my book 434 00:17:45,689 --> 00:17:49,034 and have unlimited ideas. 435 00:17:51,172 --> 00:17:54,379 Sometimes I just write my rhyming words down 436 00:17:54,482 --> 00:17:57,503 and not the stuff in between, so that it can't be 437 00:17:57,586 --> 00:18:00,275 put together if someone finds it. 438 00:18:05,482 --> 00:18:08,710 To see his lyric sheets, I mean, this is... 439 00:18:08,793 --> 00:18:10,537 this is magic right here. 440 00:18:10,620 --> 00:18:13,172 If I could own an original piece 441 00:18:13,275 --> 00:18:14,931 I would frame this in my home, 442 00:18:15,034 --> 00:18:16,330 and I'd point it out to any fucking people 443 00:18:16,413 --> 00:18:17,620 that walked in. 444 00:18:17,758 --> 00:18:19,275 I'd make them look at it with me. 445 00:18:19,379 --> 00:18:21,758 I'd make them dissect it under a microscope with me. 446 00:18:21,862 --> 00:18:24,448 I'd make them say, "oh, yo, this song... 447 00:18:24,551 --> 00:18:25,827 this line went into this song." 448 00:18:25,931 --> 00:18:26,931 I'm looking at something 449 00:18:27,034 --> 00:18:29,068 that resembles my grocery list. 450 00:18:30,413 --> 00:18:31,675 I write like this. 451 00:18:31,758 --> 00:18:32,758 My husband hates it. 452 00:18:32,862 --> 00:18:35,275 I seriously write the same way. 453 00:18:35,379 --> 00:18:37,172 I want to pick this man's brain. 454 00:18:37,275 --> 00:18:39,241 Like, it's a lot of just, like, scribbles 455 00:18:39,344 --> 00:18:40,275 and, like, thoughts. 456 00:18:40,413 --> 00:18:43,758 But wow, this is... 457 00:18:43,896 --> 00:18:45,882 yeah. [laughs] 458 00:18:45,965 --> 00:18:48,054 There's... there's a lot of cursing on here. 459 00:18:48,137 --> 00:18:49,227 But I think it says, 460 00:18:49,310 --> 00:18:52,054 "Fuck, I'm sick of duckin' in public." 461 00:18:52,137 --> 00:18:55,103 [soft music] 462 00:18:55,241 --> 00:18:58,020 When I look at the handwritten lyrics, 463 00:18:58,103 --> 00:19:00,517 I feel like I see a busy brain. 464 00:19:00,620 --> 00:19:05,655 ♪ ♪ 465 00:19:05,758 --> 00:19:09,551 Seeing how he gets the things out of his brain 466 00:19:09,689 --> 00:19:12,951 that way definitely influenced me to get your thoughts out 467 00:19:13,034 --> 00:19:14,089 and making sense of them. 468 00:19:14,172 --> 00:19:15,503 You know, I have a PhD, but it's not 469 00:19:15,586 --> 00:19:17,551 in typography or whatever. 470 00:19:17,655 --> 00:19:19,123 But it's like, it certainly looks like someone 471 00:19:19,206 --> 00:19:23,206 who is dealing with some intense emotion. 472 00:19:23,310 --> 00:19:25,482 It looks like it was very scribbled down 473 00:19:25,620 --> 00:19:26,985 kind of hastily, 474 00:19:27,068 --> 00:19:30,000 and trying to spontaneously capture something. 475 00:19:30,137 --> 00:19:32,344 476 00:19:32,482 --> 00:19:35,310 I think it was, like, a "Rolling Stone" interview. 477 00:19:35,413 --> 00:19:37,517 They asked him if he ever thought about 478 00:19:37,620 --> 00:19:39,724 going to a shrink, and he said he don't need to 479 00:19:39,827 --> 00:19:42,827 'cause his music is his therapy, and honestly, 480 00:19:42,931 --> 00:19:45,172 that's... that's the best therapy there is. 481 00:19:45,275 --> 00:19:47,344 Like, when you have an outlet, something that you're 482 00:19:47,482 --> 00:19:49,917 passionate about, and you use that. 483 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,137 That's the best way. 484 00:19:51,275 --> 00:19:54,724 485 00:19:54,862 --> 00:19:58,434 My childhood certainly wasn't the greatest. 486 00:19:58,517 --> 00:20:02,468 I always took that learning experiences from my childhood 487 00:20:02,551 --> 00:20:04,606 and life lessons and kind of was able 488 00:20:04,689 --> 00:20:08,813 to apply them through my music. 489 00:20:08,896 --> 00:20:11,641 I definitely find relatability in him 490 00:20:11,724 --> 00:20:14,896 because he's somebody who has written 491 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,296 so honestly about struggling, and I feel like that's why 492 00:20:18,379 --> 00:20:21,206 so many people can relate to him. 493 00:20:21,310 --> 00:20:22,813 I had the greatest life in the world, 494 00:20:22,896 --> 00:20:24,296 coming from a single-parent home. 495 00:20:24,379 --> 00:20:25,862 You know, my mother never had a job. 496 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,551 I hate to say that, you know. 497 00:20:27,655 --> 00:20:30,724 But, um, it took a toll, man, being bounced around 498 00:20:30,827 --> 00:20:32,468 from school to school to school to school to school, 499 00:20:32,551 --> 00:20:33,793 from state to state. 500 00:20:33,896 --> 00:20:35,813 And friends come over and you don't 501 00:20:35,896 --> 00:20:38,434 want them to see your family's on welfare and shit, 502 00:20:38,517 --> 00:20:40,793 so you hide the cheese and shit like that. 503 00:20:40,896 --> 00:20:42,137 You know, that's real. 504 00:20:42,241 --> 00:20:43,434 I mean, it's funny, but it's not funny, 505 00:20:43,517 --> 00:20:44,689 you know what I mean? 506 00:20:44,827 --> 00:20:46,261 It's like I look back on it like, damn, 507 00:20:46,344 --> 00:20:48,172 that's fucked up, you know, but... 508 00:20:48,310 --> 00:20:51,813 My mom and I had a pretty unstable relationship 509 00:20:51,896 --> 00:20:54,724 growing up, and there was a lot of struggles 510 00:20:54,827 --> 00:20:57,813 with finances 'cause it was just the two of us. 511 00:20:57,896 --> 00:21:00,296 I also came out as a transgender man, 512 00:21:00,379 --> 00:21:02,399 and transness, or even queerness, 513 00:21:02,482 --> 00:21:06,586 was not a conversation in the area I grew up in. 514 00:21:06,689 --> 00:21:11,482 Being born female, it was a very isolating, like, 515 00:21:11,620 --> 00:21:15,537 feeling to not really know anyone else 516 00:21:15,620 --> 00:21:17,103 who I could relate to. 517 00:21:17,206 --> 00:21:22,827 His struggles with bullying also lined up with mine. 518 00:21:22,965 --> 00:21:25,227 There was a lot of moments where I didn't make... 519 00:21:25,310 --> 00:21:29,537 like, I wasn't sure if I would make it out on the other side. 520 00:21:29,620 --> 00:21:32,399 Eminem was bullied relentlessly 521 00:21:32,482 --> 00:21:34,172 in elementary school. 522 00:21:34,275 --> 00:21:37,848 And it's horribly tragic to me because even now 523 00:21:37,931 --> 00:21:39,344 I carry some of the traumas 524 00:21:39,448 --> 00:21:43,882 of my own life from being bullied, 525 00:21:43,965 --> 00:21:46,931 and I can feel that in some of the music he's written. 526 00:21:47,034 --> 00:21:48,965 So in the song "Brain Damage," 527 00:21:49,103 --> 00:21:53,344 Eminem or Marshall is getting bullied at school. 528 00:21:53,448 --> 00:21:56,241 [Eminem's "Brain Damage"] 529 00:21:56,379 --> 00:22:03,517 530 00:22:14,793 --> 00:22:16,985 You know, bleeding on the carpet 531 00:22:17,068 --> 00:22:20,123 and then having your parent being like, look at you, 532 00:22:20,206 --> 00:22:22,172 you're getting blood all over my rugs... 533 00:22:22,275 --> 00:22:24,123 I felt that. 534 00:22:24,206 --> 00:22:26,241 Growing up, I would get into fights. 535 00:22:26,344 --> 00:22:29,296 I'd get into fights a good amount. 536 00:22:29,379 --> 00:22:32,379 I'd get bullied from other kids 537 00:22:32,482 --> 00:22:35,241 calling me a faggot for wearing tight pants 538 00:22:35,344 --> 00:22:37,551 because I was a skater kid. 539 00:22:37,655 --> 00:22:39,586 Going into my room, and then putting on 540 00:22:39,689 --> 00:22:43,827 a song like "Brain Damage," that's what helped me. 541 00:22:43,931 --> 00:22:45,434 It was sophomore year, and I went to go 542 00:22:45,517 --> 00:22:47,655 to a Super Bowl party with my friends. 543 00:22:47,758 --> 00:22:49,172 We were watching the Super Bowl, 544 00:22:49,275 --> 00:22:50,261 and I had my hands in my head... 545 00:22:50,344 --> 00:22:52,344 my head in my hands like this, 546 00:22:52,448 --> 00:22:54,965 sitting on the ground with my stomach on the ground, 547 00:22:55,068 --> 00:22:56,606 looking up at the TV. 548 00:22:56,689 --> 00:23:00,379 And a kid on the couch spilled his iced tea 549 00:23:00,517 --> 00:23:03,586 and went, "Oh, I know what I can use to pick that up with," 550 00:23:03,724 --> 00:23:05,241 and grabbed his other friend. 551 00:23:05,379 --> 00:23:07,123 They picked me up by my feet and used my hair as a mop 552 00:23:07,206 --> 00:23:11,275 and then threw me on the ground, and I was... 553 00:23:11,379 --> 00:23:15,206 these were supposed to be my friends. 554 00:23:15,310 --> 00:23:18,586 It made me sometimes not want to go to school, 555 00:23:18,689 --> 00:23:23,103 but I went because I had Marshall's music. 556 00:23:23,241 --> 00:23:24,758 [bell rings] 557 00:23:24,862 --> 00:23:26,365 I would put my CD player on 558 00:23:26,448 --> 00:23:29,758 and just walk through the hallways. 559 00:23:29,862 --> 00:23:31,848 He inspired me to write. 560 00:23:31,931 --> 00:23:33,827 I write poetry. 561 00:23:33,965 --> 00:23:38,054 I loved how he could just bend the English language, 562 00:23:38,137 --> 00:23:40,758 use different words to rhyme off other words 563 00:23:40,862 --> 00:23:43,103 that necessarily wouldn't rhyme, 564 00:23:43,241 --> 00:23:46,586 like orange, door hinge, syringe. 565 00:23:46,689 --> 00:23:50,448 That's great. [laughs] 566 00:23:50,551 --> 00:23:55,448 His music made me feel like I wasn't alone in this world, 567 00:23:55,586 --> 00:23:57,586 with what I was going through. 568 00:23:57,689 --> 00:23:59,448 [somber music] 569 00:23:59,551 --> 00:24:01,434 Hip-hop was the most important thing 570 00:24:01,517 --> 00:24:03,468 that empowered me as a kid. 571 00:24:03,551 --> 00:24:06,000 It made me feel tough when I wasn't. 572 00:24:06,103 --> 00:24:09,172 I was a scrawny little kid growing up on 8 Mile, 573 00:24:09,275 --> 00:24:12,296 walking up the fucking block, put headphones on, 574 00:24:12,379 --> 00:24:15,641 and it made me feel powerful. 575 00:24:15,724 --> 00:24:18,551 Hip-hop, it taught me how to throw my first punch, 576 00:24:18,689 --> 00:24:21,172 gave me the confidence. It was like my dad. 577 00:24:21,275 --> 00:24:23,482 And it was the only thing that made me empowered. 578 00:24:23,586 --> 00:24:25,123 It made me feel good about myself. 579 00:24:25,206 --> 00:24:26,848 And when I started being able to write rhymes 580 00:24:26,931 --> 00:24:28,862 and figured out I could do it, 581 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,862 that's where the feeling comes from. 582 00:24:32,965 --> 00:24:36,344 As a teenager, I definitely had a lot of anger. 583 00:24:36,448 --> 00:24:39,572 I haven't met my father in person since I was probably, 584 00:24:39,655 --> 00:24:42,724 like, one or two or something. 585 00:24:42,862 --> 00:24:45,000 But I never had anybody that I could relate to 586 00:24:45,103 --> 00:24:48,123 in that regard growing up. 587 00:24:48,206 --> 00:24:49,744 Whenever he would talk about his father too, 588 00:24:49,827 --> 00:24:51,827 he always sounded so angry. 589 00:24:51,965 --> 00:24:54,689 So I always gravitated more towards 590 00:24:54,793 --> 00:24:56,744 the angrier-sounding Eminem, 591 00:24:56,827 --> 00:24:59,296 and Slim Shady was his alter ego 592 00:24:59,379 --> 00:25:00,689 and split personality for that. 593 00:25:00,827 --> 00:25:03,620 Eminem, Slim Shady, Marshall Mathers. 594 00:25:03,724 --> 00:25:05,931 Could you briefly tell us where one stops, 595 00:25:06,034 --> 00:25:07,296 the other one begins, and the difference 596 00:25:07,379 --> 00:25:08,882 between the three different characters? 597 00:25:08,965 --> 00:25:12,517 Marshall Mathers stops when the Bacardi kicks in, 598 00:25:12,620 --> 00:25:14,206 and then it's Slim Shady. 599 00:25:14,310 --> 00:25:16,275 Marshall is the human being where 600 00:25:16,379 --> 00:25:21,103 the heart and the human experience come from. 601 00:25:21,206 --> 00:25:24,813 Eminem is the artist through which Slim Shady 602 00:25:24,896 --> 00:25:26,482 and Marshall are channeled. 603 00:25:26,586 --> 00:25:28,537 That's where you see the skill and the talent. 604 00:25:28,620 --> 00:25:32,275 And then Slim Shady is this cartoon character. 605 00:25:32,413 --> 00:25:35,620 Slim is, uh, the jokester, the hey, 606 00:25:35,724 --> 00:25:37,103 I'm here for a good time. 607 00:25:37,241 --> 00:25:39,192 A crazy son of a bitch... 608 00:25:39,275 --> 00:25:42,192 [laughs] Um, that I love. 609 00:25:42,275 --> 00:25:45,241 He has, like, this I-don't-give-a-fuck attitude. 610 00:25:45,344 --> 00:25:47,537 He's like a psycho, but in a good way. 611 00:25:47,620 --> 00:25:49,965 Uh, says whatever the fuck he wants to say. 612 00:25:50,103 --> 00:25:53,192 He'll probably kill if you look at him the wrong way. 613 00:25:53,275 --> 00:25:54,517 I'm putting the mask on. 614 00:25:54,620 --> 00:25:56,192 I'm like, I can be me. 615 00:25:56,275 --> 00:25:57,413 I can say what I want. 616 00:25:57,517 --> 00:25:59,758 I can flip a fucking desk if I needed to. 617 00:25:59,896 --> 00:26:01,744 Even though he was just being himself, 618 00:26:01,827 --> 00:26:03,000 people didn't like that. 619 00:26:03,137 --> 00:26:04,793 People did not like that at all. 620 00:26:04,896 --> 00:26:05,951 I mean, let's just say the least, 621 00:26:06,034 --> 00:26:07,517 it was a trying time. 622 00:26:07,620 --> 00:26:11,310 We were criticized enormously for putting his music out. 623 00:26:11,413 --> 00:26:14,744 That controversy was covered extensively by the media. 624 00:26:14,827 --> 00:26:16,227 While Black rappers often get a pass 625 00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:17,517 on lyrical nihilism, 626 00:26:17,620 --> 00:26:19,434 Eminem, who's white, has been taking 627 00:26:19,517 --> 00:26:22,482 some intense critical heat for his jokey, hard-nosed rhymes. 628 00:26:22,620 --> 00:26:24,434 In Eminem's songs, women are portrayed 629 00:26:24,517 --> 00:26:27,275 as little more than strippers, 630 00:26:27,379 --> 00:26:30,172 punching bags, and sperm receptacles. 631 00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:32,172 It's so sad to see those parents dropping 632 00:26:32,275 --> 00:26:33,793 their children off and saying, 633 00:26:33,896 --> 00:26:35,503 I don't know what the lyrics are all about. 634 00:26:35,586 --> 00:26:38,482 [Vivaldi's "The Four Seasons, 'Spring'" 635 00:26:38,586 --> 00:26:43,089 ♪ ♪ 636 00:26:43,172 --> 00:26:45,137 Perhaps one of the most interesting words 637 00:26:45,275 --> 00:26:49,137 in the English language today is the word "fuck." 638 00:26:49,275 --> 00:26:50,434 Out of all of the English words 639 00:26:50,517 --> 00:26:52,655 that begin with the letter F, 640 00:26:52,758 --> 00:26:56,103 "fuck" is the only word that is referred to as the F-word. 641 00:26:56,206 --> 00:27:00,399 It's the one magical word, just by its sound, 642 00:27:00,482 --> 00:27:04,206 can describe pain, pleasure, hate, and love. 643 00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:08,517 In English, fuck falls into many grammatical categories. 644 00:27:08,620 --> 00:27:10,985 As a transitive verb, for instance: 645 00:27:11,068 --> 00:27:12,985 "John fucked Shirley." 646 00:27:13,068 --> 00:27:15,034 As an intransitive verb: 647 00:27:15,172 --> 00:27:16,675 "Shirley fucks." 648 00:27:16,758 --> 00:27:18,000 It can be used as an adjective, 649 00:27:18,103 --> 00:27:21,689 such as, "John's doing all the fucking work." 650 00:27:21,793 --> 00:27:23,468 As part of an adverb: 651 00:27:23,551 --> 00:27:26,000 "Shirley talks too fucking much." 652 00:27:26,103 --> 00:27:27,517 As a noun: 653 00:27:27,620 --> 00:27:29,503 "I don't give a fuck." 654 00:27:29,586 --> 00:27:31,985 With all of these multipurpose applications, 655 00:27:32,068 --> 00:27:35,275 how can anyone be offended when you use the word? 656 00:27:35,379 --> 00:27:38,551 Say it loudly and proudly. 657 00:27:38,655 --> 00:27:42,206 Fuck you! 658 00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:43,641 You rap about raping and killing women, 659 00:27:43,724 --> 00:27:45,089 but you really don't do that, do you, Eminem? 660 00:27:45,172 --> 00:27:46,537 -Yes. -You do rape and kill women? 661 00:27:46,620 --> 00:27:47,551 Yes. 662 00:27:47,655 --> 00:27:49,158 Uh, are you amazed at the, uh, 663 00:27:49,241 --> 00:27:50,882 the firestorm that has begun, and are you afraid 664 00:27:50,965 --> 00:27:52,413 it could be a career-destroyer? 665 00:27:52,517 --> 00:27:54,379 Um, I'm not worried about it because anybody 666 00:27:54,482 --> 00:27:55,985 with half a brain is going to be able to tell 667 00:27:56,068 --> 00:27:57,896 when I'm joking and when I'm serious. 668 00:27:58,034 --> 00:28:00,103 With the first album, "The Slim Shady LP," 669 00:28:00,206 --> 00:28:02,448 all of a sudden, now it's important. 670 00:28:02,551 --> 00:28:05,103 What I have to say is important. 671 00:28:05,206 --> 00:28:09,882 I remember one of the first times signing autographs, 672 00:28:09,965 --> 00:28:12,000 there'd be, like, a line out the door, 673 00:28:12,137 --> 00:28:15,103 and somebody would be like, yo, I just want you to know, 674 00:28:15,206 --> 00:28:18,192 man, you helped me so much for... for this or for that. 675 00:28:18,275 --> 00:28:19,503 So now I'm like... 676 00:28:19,586 --> 00:28:20,827 What's your name? 677 00:28:20,931 --> 00:28:22,655 Writing a long paragraph for them and shit, 678 00:28:22,758 --> 00:28:24,655 and signing their name, and people are like, yo, 679 00:28:24,758 --> 00:28:25,951 can you speed it up a little bit? 680 00:28:26,034 --> 00:28:27,020 'Cause we're not going to get to everybody. 681 00:28:27,103 --> 00:28:28,054 -Hello. -Can I have a hug? 682 00:28:28,137 --> 00:28:29,448 How you doing? 683 00:28:29,551 --> 00:28:31,710 I was living inside it when it was all new to me 684 00:28:31,793 --> 00:28:33,793 and I still didn't understand it. 685 00:28:33,896 --> 00:28:36,620 You know, this guy has been somebody 686 00:28:36,724 --> 00:28:38,758 that I've been trying to meet for a long time, 687 00:28:38,862 --> 00:28:43,054 and he's not easy to get close to. 688 00:28:43,137 --> 00:28:46,482 Since I was 14, I had this fandom in me 689 00:28:46,620 --> 00:28:48,344 that I wanted to, like, express, 690 00:28:48,448 --> 00:28:50,275 and I just didn't know how to. 691 00:28:52,620 --> 00:28:55,965 I remember the first portrait tattoo that I got, 692 00:28:56,103 --> 00:28:59,448 being really anxious about the pain. 693 00:28:59,586 --> 00:29:05,123 It's like a scratch, quite a sharp scratch, 694 00:29:05,206 --> 00:29:06,951 and it depends kind of 695 00:29:07,034 --> 00:29:08,434 what it is that you're having done. 696 00:29:08,517 --> 00:29:10,862 Like, the lines are the worst because it's 697 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,261 being dragged against your skin. 698 00:29:13,344 --> 00:29:15,468 But I fell in love with the process 699 00:29:15,551 --> 00:29:17,862 of tattooing that day. 700 00:29:17,965 --> 00:29:21,241 I've kind of described it as, I walked in one person 701 00:29:21,344 --> 00:29:24,689 and left a different person. 702 00:29:24,827 --> 00:29:28,241 And then it kind of snowballed after that. 703 00:29:28,344 --> 00:29:30,689 In 2020, I set the Guinness World Record 704 00:29:30,827 --> 00:29:34,517 for having the most tattoos of the same musician. 705 00:29:34,620 --> 00:29:37,724 It has become my identity. 706 00:29:37,862 --> 00:29:41,344 Now that I've got the ink, I feel like 707 00:29:41,482 --> 00:29:44,000 I've got to have a possibility of meeting him. 708 00:29:44,103 --> 00:29:45,862 [flashbulbs bursting] 709 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,517 The first time I met Marshall was 710 00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:49,310 for the "Rolling Stone" cover. 711 00:29:49,413 --> 00:29:52,434 I was just shown into, like, a conference room, 712 00:29:52,517 --> 00:29:54,310 and no one else was in there. 713 00:29:54,413 --> 00:29:56,413 And I sort of asked the security guy to let me in. 714 00:29:56,517 --> 00:29:58,172 Like, just, hey, is Marshall around? 715 00:29:58,275 --> 00:29:59,915 I just want to say hi, and all that stuff. 716 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,951 So he pointed to a door that I didn't 717 00:30:02,034 --> 00:30:03,985 realize was the bathroom. 718 00:30:04,068 --> 00:30:08,000 And, uh, and I opened it up, and I heard him puking. 719 00:30:08,103 --> 00:30:09,172 [toilet flushes] 720 00:30:09,275 --> 00:30:10,620 He came out of the stall. 721 00:30:10,724 --> 00:30:12,310 I was like, uh, hi, Marshall, 722 00:30:12,413 --> 00:30:13,434 it's really nice to meet you. 723 00:30:13,517 --> 00:30:14,641 Put my hand out. 724 00:30:14,724 --> 00:30:15,744 I'm Anthony from "Rolling Stone," 725 00:30:15,827 --> 00:30:17,827 like, super dork. 726 00:30:17,931 --> 00:30:20,000 And he just looked at me and, like, burped... 727 00:30:20,103 --> 00:30:21,123 [belching sound effect] 728 00:30:21,206 --> 00:30:22,310 And, like, walked out. 729 00:30:22,448 --> 00:30:25,158 [hip-hop music] 730 00:30:25,241 --> 00:30:28,468 One of the three venues we went to that first night was, 731 00:30:28,551 --> 00:30:31,206 like, a 16-year-old's birthday party. 732 00:30:31,344 --> 00:30:33,344 You know, it was basically Beatlemania. 733 00:30:33,448 --> 00:30:36,517 They were grabbing at him, pulling at his shirt. 734 00:30:36,620 --> 00:30:38,862 The police were there to, like, make sure 735 00:30:38,965 --> 00:30:40,379 that the limo got in and out. 736 00:30:40,517 --> 00:30:42,089 There were girls, like, putting their boobs 737 00:30:42,172 --> 00:30:43,606 on the glass of the car. 738 00:30:43,689 --> 00:30:45,606 I remember him saying, like, you're pretty cute. 739 00:30:45,689 --> 00:30:48,827 I love you too, but I'm not going to jail. 740 00:30:48,965 --> 00:30:51,379 The night went from, you know, then until 741 00:30:51,482 --> 00:30:53,172 about 4:00 or 5:00 in the morning. 742 00:30:53,275 --> 00:30:54,379 And for the whole time, 743 00:30:54,517 --> 00:30:56,068 he didn't speak a word to me at all. 744 00:30:56,172 --> 00:30:58,137 ♪ ♪ 745 00:30:58,241 --> 00:31:02,275 So I've got my little circle of family and friends, 746 00:31:02,379 --> 00:31:04,020 people that I've basically grown up with, 747 00:31:04,103 --> 00:31:05,537 because I feel like, at this point, 748 00:31:05,620 --> 00:31:08,068 anybody that I meet after this only knows me 749 00:31:08,172 --> 00:31:11,675 for Eminem or Slim Shady and doesn't know Marshall. 750 00:31:11,758 --> 00:31:13,724 So that's why I keep those friends around, 751 00:31:13,827 --> 00:31:15,503 'cause I know that those are the people that 752 00:31:15,586 --> 00:31:17,985 really care about me for me. 753 00:31:18,068 --> 00:31:20,330 I think it was a defense against, like, 754 00:31:20,413 --> 00:31:22,724 the attention, the fame. Just survival. 755 00:31:22,827 --> 00:31:24,241 Just trying to, like, take it in 756 00:31:24,344 --> 00:31:25,641 and figure out what the hell's happening, 757 00:31:25,724 --> 00:31:27,137 'cause it happened so fast. 758 00:31:27,241 --> 00:31:29,758 [plane whooshing] 759 00:31:29,862 --> 00:31:31,241 ♪ ♪ 760 00:31:31,379 --> 00:31:33,137 -So you show it to Eminem? -Oh, yeah. 761 00:31:33,241 --> 00:31:34,158 -Yeah? -Yes. 762 00:31:34,241 --> 00:31:35,468 Hello, Eminem. [laughter] 763 00:31:35,551 --> 00:31:39,068 [cheering] 764 00:31:39,172 --> 00:31:40,448 [chainsaw buzzing] 765 00:31:40,586 --> 00:31:43,448 It's really an eye-opener to see how crazy 766 00:31:43,551 --> 00:31:45,310 some people do get for Eminem. 767 00:31:45,413 --> 00:31:47,896 I travel the world for him. 768 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,896 [cheering] 769 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,413 Nobody here. 770 00:31:51,517 --> 00:31:53,103 Just me and the camera. 771 00:31:53,206 --> 00:31:54,758 Oh, no. 772 00:31:54,862 --> 00:31:57,896 Well, one of these have to be the jet for the day. 773 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,758 Want that one? Or even that one. 774 00:31:59,896 --> 00:32:01,917 Paul's telling me to put on my fucking seat belt, 775 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,606 like if the plane crashes, it's gonna help. 776 00:32:04,689 --> 00:32:08,572 I've seen Eminem in concert about 30-something times. 777 00:32:08,655 --> 00:32:10,517 15 different cities 778 00:32:10,620 --> 00:32:12,744 in six, seven different countries. 779 00:32:12,827 --> 00:32:14,103 I'm a parrot. 780 00:32:14,206 --> 00:32:16,965 I'm an embarrassed parrot in Paris. 781 00:32:17,103 --> 00:32:18,344 -Oh, Eminem! -Eminem! 782 00:32:18,448 --> 00:32:20,054 Eminem! 783 00:32:20,137 --> 00:32:23,482 I made this costume because I wanted to wear 784 00:32:23,586 --> 00:32:27,000 something very eye-catching. 785 00:32:27,103 --> 00:32:29,965 They actually put me on camera 786 00:32:30,068 --> 00:32:31,482 throughout the stadium, 787 00:32:31,586 --> 00:32:33,931 and some random man put me on his shoulders 788 00:32:34,034 --> 00:32:35,951 to, like, showcase it. 789 00:32:36,034 --> 00:32:38,689 I was hoping, of course, he's gonna see my costume, 790 00:32:38,793 --> 00:32:40,310 and he's gonna think it's so cool, 791 00:32:40,413 --> 00:32:42,213 and he's gonna invite me on stage and meet me. 792 00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:44,310 I was asking Paul today, I was like, uh, 793 00:32:44,413 --> 00:32:45,710 why do people want to talk to me? 794 00:32:45,793 --> 00:32:47,827 And he was like, you rap well, 795 00:32:47,965 --> 00:32:49,779 you say a lot of personal shit, 796 00:32:49,862 --> 00:32:50,951 and your music and your life is like 797 00:32:51,034 --> 00:32:53,620 the fucking "Jerry Springer Show." 798 00:32:53,724 --> 00:32:55,054 "I didn't really start doing drugs 799 00:32:55,137 --> 00:32:56,655 "until I rapped about them. 800 00:32:56,758 --> 00:32:58,744 "When I was on tour rapping about Vicodin 801 00:32:58,827 --> 00:33:00,434 "or mushrooms or ecstasy, 802 00:33:00,517 --> 00:33:02,468 people started throwing that shit my way." 803 00:33:02,551 --> 00:33:03,641 "I couldn't believe the effect 804 00:33:03,724 --> 00:33:05,172 "my lyrics had on people. 805 00:33:05,275 --> 00:33:07,344 They thought we were literally drug addicts..." 806 00:33:07,448 --> 00:33:08,744 "And that they could get backstage 807 00:33:08,827 --> 00:33:10,034 "and bring us substances. 808 00:33:10,137 --> 00:33:11,296 "It was wild. 809 00:33:11,379 --> 00:33:13,241 Welcome to rock and roll." 810 00:33:13,344 --> 00:33:16,344 [cheering, chanting] 811 00:33:17,862 --> 00:33:19,482 Yo, they were so loud, we couldn't rap 812 00:33:19,586 --> 00:33:20,862 for, like, 10 minutes. 813 00:33:20,965 --> 00:33:22,227 Just seeing, like, how he was living 814 00:33:22,310 --> 00:33:23,641 and the breakneck pace, 815 00:33:23,724 --> 00:33:26,158 instant stardom, instant fandom, 816 00:33:26,241 --> 00:33:27,537 and people starting to get obsessed. 817 00:33:27,620 --> 00:33:29,724 What the fuck? 818 00:33:29,862 --> 00:33:30,985 I was just rooting for him to, like... 819 00:33:31,068 --> 00:33:32,296 to hang on for the rocket ride. 820 00:33:32,379 --> 00:33:33,985 England, we're out of here. 821 00:33:34,068 --> 00:33:35,517 We love you. Thank you. 822 00:33:35,655 --> 00:33:37,517 Peace. 823 00:33:40,034 --> 00:33:42,379 Were you prepared for how much the fans 824 00:33:42,482 --> 00:33:44,034 would connect with you? 825 00:33:44,172 --> 00:33:49,517 What I put out was very much, um, 826 00:33:49,620 --> 00:33:52,896 raw and, like, just real, 827 00:33:53,034 --> 00:33:56,951 as far as situations in my life and how I came up 828 00:33:57,034 --> 00:33:58,000 and shit like that. 829 00:33:58,103 --> 00:34:01,572 And I think that that's maybe one 830 00:34:01,655 --> 00:34:05,931 of the things that made some people 831 00:34:06,068 --> 00:34:07,689 feel like they could relate. 832 00:34:07,793 --> 00:34:11,103 It was a weird, strange kind of adjustment, 833 00:34:11,206 --> 00:34:15,965 and my personality wasn't well-equipped to handle that. 834 00:34:16,068 --> 00:34:16,931 [pulsating music] 835 00:34:17,034 --> 00:34:18,310 "FANatic." 836 00:34:18,448 --> 00:34:19,848 I've never gotten into any music 837 00:34:19,931 --> 00:34:21,537 like I've gotten into Eminem's lyrics. 838 00:34:21,620 --> 00:34:25,482 Like, once I started listening to him, I couldn't stop. 839 00:34:25,586 --> 00:34:27,537 We are at the restaurant that Eminem worked at 840 00:34:27,620 --> 00:34:29,103 before he made it big. 841 00:34:29,206 --> 00:34:31,365 Around the time Marshall's really starting to blow up, 842 00:34:31,448 --> 00:34:32,931 there's a million channels. 843 00:34:33,068 --> 00:34:34,365 You know, the Internet starts picking up. 844 00:34:34,448 --> 00:34:36,275 This is where Eminem spent most of his time. 845 00:34:36,379 --> 00:34:37,848 [gasps] This is the phone Eminem touched. 846 00:34:37,931 --> 00:34:40,965 Content is just at its infancy of becoming king. 847 00:34:41,068 --> 00:34:43,172 From a media standpoint, you are really 848 00:34:43,275 --> 00:34:45,517 now into the minutia of what it takes 849 00:34:45,620 --> 00:34:47,172 to hold on to an audience. 850 00:34:47,275 --> 00:34:49,172 And what that came down to for us, really, 851 00:34:49,310 --> 00:34:52,172 was like, the fan experience, we gotta go even more. 852 00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:54,000 What was your best subject in school? 853 00:34:54,137 --> 00:34:55,655 Oh, my God, none. 854 00:34:55,758 --> 00:34:57,517 Maybe English. I was all right at English. 855 00:34:57,620 --> 00:34:58,965 Everything else I was horrible at. 856 00:34:59,068 --> 00:35:00,572 I was the worst. 857 00:35:00,655 --> 00:35:03,158 Fans just had such an insatiable appetite 858 00:35:03,241 --> 00:35:04,551 for more and more access 859 00:35:04,689 --> 00:35:05,951 to the artists that they loved. 860 00:35:06,034 --> 00:35:07,710 I mean, now you're really opening the floodgates 861 00:35:07,793 --> 00:35:08,985 for people who see that 862 00:35:09,068 --> 00:35:10,261 to live vicariously through that moment 863 00:35:10,344 --> 00:35:12,068 and go, "Well, that's all it takes." 864 00:35:12,206 --> 00:35:14,034 "I'm just going to jump on a plane to Detroit 865 00:35:14,172 --> 00:35:16,448 "and go find 8 Mile and walk around, 866 00:35:16,551 --> 00:35:18,482 "and I can just have the experience 867 00:35:18,586 --> 00:35:19,468 that they just showed me." 868 00:35:19,551 --> 00:35:21,551 I was in my early 20s 869 00:35:21,655 --> 00:35:23,724 when I started working at Gilbert's. 870 00:35:23,862 --> 00:35:25,848 And I knew Eminem worked there, obviously, 871 00:35:25,931 --> 00:35:29,172 so I was like, fuck it, I'll go work where Eminem worked. 872 00:35:29,275 --> 00:35:30,689 Like, I always wanted to, 873 00:35:30,827 --> 00:35:33,503 so one more thing closer to Eminem. 874 00:35:33,586 --> 00:35:35,896 And I stayed at that bitch for... 875 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,641 for, like, 10 years, 876 00:35:37,724 --> 00:35:39,724 'cause I'm like, he's going to come in. 877 00:35:41,241 --> 00:35:42,158 That's crazy. 878 00:35:42,241 --> 00:35:44,158 The whole neighborhood's gone now. 879 00:35:44,241 --> 00:35:47,689 Me and Proof used to climb this tree all the time. 880 00:35:47,793 --> 00:35:49,827 And we would sit up in the tree, 881 00:35:49,931 --> 00:35:51,434 and he would always climb higher than me 882 00:35:51,517 --> 00:35:52,641 'cause he wasn't afraid of heights. 883 00:35:52,724 --> 00:35:53,813 I was. 884 00:35:53,896 --> 00:35:56,413 Um, and we would just sit there 885 00:35:56,551 --> 00:35:58,931 and talk about, like, what we was going to do 886 00:35:59,034 --> 00:36:00,882 once we made it as rappers. 887 00:36:00,965 --> 00:36:03,192 [dog barking] 888 00:36:03,275 --> 00:36:06,192 We shot here when the house had been condemned, 889 00:36:06,275 --> 00:36:07,896 but it wasn't burnt down yet. 890 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,965 And, like, I don't know if you've ever 891 00:36:10,068 --> 00:36:12,931 been to, like, a house, go back when you were a kid... 892 00:36:13,034 --> 00:36:15,655 everything seems smaller. 893 00:36:15,793 --> 00:36:18,227 Bro, that motherfucker was like, here to here, 894 00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:20,020 you could touch the living room walls. 895 00:36:20,103 --> 00:36:21,758 We tried to buy it, and the city 896 00:36:21,862 --> 00:36:23,068 had already condemned it. 897 00:36:23,172 --> 00:36:27,103 So they wouldn't sell it to us. 898 00:36:27,206 --> 00:36:29,399 Did it ever occur to you that fans would 899 00:36:29,482 --> 00:36:31,848 come here and make a pilgrimage? 900 00:36:31,931 --> 00:36:34,137 It's cool that people care, 901 00:36:34,275 --> 00:36:39,537 but it's also weird, still, 'cause you're like, 902 00:36:39,620 --> 00:36:41,448 but it's me, you know what I'm saying? 903 00:36:41,551 --> 00:36:43,655 Like, why? 904 00:36:43,758 --> 00:36:46,172 It's really not that big of a deal. 905 00:36:46,275 --> 00:36:48,620 When Em was blowing up, 906 00:36:48,724 --> 00:36:51,758 there was lots of kids with white T-shirts 907 00:36:51,862 --> 00:36:53,275 and bleach blonde hair. 908 00:36:53,379 --> 00:36:55,572 But again, this might be by Em's own doing. 909 00:36:55,655 --> 00:36:58,917 I mean, the videos, the imagery that he put out, 910 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,172 it's this million-white-boy army behind me, you know? 911 00:37:03,310 --> 00:37:04,344 Like, I am you. 912 00:37:04,448 --> 00:37:05,641 [Eminem's "The Real Slim Shady"] 913 00:37:05,724 --> 00:37:08,862 ♪ May I have your attention, please ♪ 914 00:37:08,965 --> 00:37:12,551 ♪ Will the real Slim Shady please stand up ♪ 915 00:37:12,655 --> 00:37:16,482 ♪ I repeat, will the real Slim Shady please stand up ♪ 916 00:37:16,586 --> 00:37:18,641 ♪ ♪ 917 00:37:18,724 --> 00:37:23,089 I was at the MTV Awards when Marshall came out 918 00:37:23,172 --> 00:37:24,862 and that gang of fucking dudes 919 00:37:24,965 --> 00:37:26,551 followed him up on stage. 920 00:37:26,655 --> 00:37:28,517 Everyone around me kind of fucking locked in, 921 00:37:28,620 --> 00:37:30,310 like, what is... what's going on right now? 922 00:37:30,413 --> 00:37:31,261 Who the fuck is that guy? 923 00:37:31,344 --> 00:37:33,827 It was hands-down like, yeah. 924 00:37:33,931 --> 00:37:36,068 Like, that dude right there, he's... he's... 925 00:37:36,172 --> 00:37:38,827 he's fucking... he's cooler than me. 926 00:37:38,965 --> 00:37:40,689 When Eminem came on the scene 927 00:37:40,793 --> 00:37:43,206 and when they seen the bleach blonde hair, 928 00:37:43,310 --> 00:37:45,827 it kind of infected the whole world. 929 00:37:45,931 --> 00:37:48,379 So many kids were dyeing their hair yellow, 930 00:37:48,482 --> 00:37:50,310 dressing in, you know, baggy clothes. 931 00:37:50,413 --> 00:37:51,689 And I saw it. 932 00:37:51,793 --> 00:37:53,827 So, you know, I had guy friends that were like, oh, 933 00:37:53,931 --> 00:37:55,206 I'm Slim Shady, you know? 934 00:37:55,310 --> 00:37:56,630 And I'm just like, no, you're not. 935 00:37:59,172 --> 00:38:00,985 It was who they were now. 936 00:38:01,068 --> 00:38:02,710 It wasn't like, hey, I'm going to go down to Times Square. 937 00:38:02,793 --> 00:38:04,261 I'm gonna... you know, I'm gonna pay homage 938 00:38:04,344 --> 00:38:05,468 to Em and, you know, do my thing. 939 00:38:05,551 --> 00:38:07,310 It was like, I'm becoming him. 940 00:38:19,517 --> 00:38:22,103 Nine years old, you know? 941 00:38:22,206 --> 00:38:24,965 One day I wanted to... to make my hair blonde. 942 00:38:57,413 --> 00:39:00,103 You feel like a real Shady. 943 00:39:06,344 --> 00:39:08,551 Every people who look at you, they... 944 00:39:08,655 --> 00:39:13,793 they know what is about, you know, Shady, man. 945 00:39:16,172 --> 00:39:20,034 Eminem is absolutely like an unwilling cult leader. 946 00:39:20,172 --> 00:39:24,172 He's someone who did not want to take up that position 947 00:39:24,310 --> 00:39:27,620 but has been, to no fault of his own, 948 00:39:27,724 --> 00:39:29,310 kind of thrust into it. 949 00:39:29,413 --> 00:39:31,000 Eminem, ladies and gentlemen. 950 00:39:31,137 --> 00:39:35,448 [cheering] 951 00:39:35,586 --> 00:39:36,655 -Big day. -Right. 952 00:39:36,758 --> 00:39:38,020 -New album is out. -A really big day. 953 00:39:38,103 --> 00:39:39,089 -Yeah. -Really big day. 954 00:39:39,172 --> 00:39:40,399 "Mathers LP" is out. 955 00:39:40,482 --> 00:39:41,793 Now, that's your real name. 956 00:39:41,896 --> 00:39:42,985 -Is, uh... does that mean... -It's my real name. 957 00:39:43,068 --> 00:39:44,158 That this is sort of more of, like, 958 00:39:44,241 --> 00:39:46,275 reflective of who you are? Or, uh... 959 00:39:46,379 --> 00:39:47,689 I think so. 960 00:39:47,793 --> 00:39:50,137 I think I got kind of personal on this album, 961 00:39:50,241 --> 00:39:51,724 and just basically I just wanted 962 00:39:51,827 --> 00:39:53,848 to let people know that this is... this is the real me. 963 00:39:53,931 --> 00:39:55,572 This is all jokes aside, you know what I'm saying? 964 00:39:55,655 --> 00:39:57,261 There's a lot of songs on the album that 965 00:39:57,344 --> 00:39:58,917 are like that, that are like, you know, 966 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,227 more serious than the first album. 967 00:40:00,310 --> 00:40:01,606 Right. 968 00:40:01,689 --> 00:40:02,586 Actually, we're listening to it right now, 969 00:40:02,689 --> 00:40:03,862 a track called "Stan." 970 00:40:03,965 --> 00:40:04,931 It's the third track on the album. 971 00:40:05,034 --> 00:40:05,882 What's... what's all this about? 972 00:40:05,965 --> 00:40:07,379 Explain this to me. 973 00:40:07,482 --> 00:40:09,620 Um, basically, it's just about crazy fan mail 974 00:40:09,758 --> 00:40:11,344 that I get from people. 975 00:40:11,448 --> 00:40:14,434 And it's about, like, a kid who is really sick, 976 00:40:14,517 --> 00:40:15,689 you know what I'm saying? 977 00:40:15,827 --> 00:40:18,089 And... and takes everything that I say literally. 978 00:40:18,172 --> 00:40:20,744 What inspired me to write "Stan" first 979 00:40:20,827 --> 00:40:23,227 was when I got the beat 980 00:40:23,310 --> 00:40:25,103 and it had the Dido sample in it. 981 00:40:25,206 --> 00:40:27,275 "But your picture on my wall reminds me 982 00:40:27,379 --> 00:40:28,655 that it's not so bad." 983 00:40:28,793 --> 00:40:31,344 I felt like, that is... 984 00:40:31,448 --> 00:40:35,103 that line right there, that's LL Cool J to me. 985 00:40:35,206 --> 00:40:38,448 Like, LL Cool J was one of the rappers 986 00:40:38,551 --> 00:40:41,572 who helped get me through so much childhood shit. 987 00:40:41,655 --> 00:40:43,744 I kept thinking, like, oh, my God, 988 00:40:43,827 --> 00:40:46,206 am I LL Cool J to somebody else? 989 00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:47,931 Instantly, I was like, yo, this has 990 00:40:48,034 --> 00:40:49,862 got to be about, like, an obsessed fan 991 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,655 who's taking my shit too literal, and slow down. 992 00:40:53,758 --> 00:40:55,482 I'm not... I'm just Marshall. 993 00:40:55,620 --> 00:40:56,940 [thunder rumbling, rain pattering] 994 00:40:57,034 --> 00:41:00,434 Like, I'm not your fucking savior. 995 00:41:00,517 --> 00:41:04,034 [thunder crashes] 996 00:41:04,172 --> 00:41:08,586 997 00:41:08,689 --> 00:41:11,965 [thunder rumbling, crashing] 998 00:41:21,275 --> 00:41:22,434 Let me in! 999 00:41:22,517 --> 00:41:24,241 [knocking] 1000 00:41:24,344 --> 00:41:25,813 What? 1001 00:41:25,896 --> 00:41:27,724 Stanley, what are you doing to yourself? 1002 00:41:27,827 --> 00:41:29,862 What, the hair? You don't like it? 1003 00:41:29,965 --> 00:41:31,482 -Stanley! -You like it? 1004 00:41:31,586 --> 00:41:33,000 Stanley! Don't... 1005 00:41:33,103 --> 00:41:36,296 Don't call me that, OK? 1006 00:41:36,379 --> 00:41:37,448 Don't call me that. 1007 00:41:37,551 --> 00:41:38,951 Don't you think you're taking this too far? 1008 00:41:39,034 --> 00:41:40,261 -Stanley. -Here. 1009 00:41:40,344 --> 00:41:41,606 Stanley! 1010 00:41:41,689 --> 00:41:42,779 I was listening to the lyrics. 1011 00:41:42,862 --> 00:41:44,123 I was just like, this is amazing. 1012 00:41:44,206 --> 00:41:45,882 I mean, I just think his lyrics on that song 1013 00:41:45,965 --> 00:41:47,379 are absolutely brilliant, you know? 1014 00:41:47,517 --> 00:41:50,296 He's, to me, the ultimate storyteller. 1015 00:41:50,379 --> 00:41:51,951 [Eminem's "Stan"] 1016 00:41:52,034 --> 00:41:54,448 ♪ And I can't see at all ♪ 1017 00:41:54,551 --> 00:41:58,068 ♪ Even if I could, it'd all be gray ♪ 1018 00:41:58,206 --> 00:42:00,379 ♪ But your picture on my wall ♪ 1019 00:42:00,517 --> 00:42:04,241 ♪ It reminds me that it's not so bad ♪ 1020 00:42:04,344 --> 00:42:06,089 ♪ It's not so bad ♪ 1021 00:42:06,172 --> 00:42:08,710 ♪ Dear Slim, I wrote you, but you still ain't calling ♪ 1022 00:42:08,793 --> 00:42:10,710 ♪ I left my cell, my pager, and my home phone ♪ 1023 00:42:10,793 --> 00:42:11,931 ♪ At the bottom ♪ 1024 00:42:12,068 --> 00:42:13,468 ♪ I sent two letters back in autumn ♪ 1025 00:42:13,551 --> 00:42:14,793 ♪ You must not have got 'em ♪ 1026 00:42:14,931 --> 00:42:16,192 ♪ There probably was a problem ♪ 1027 00:42:16,275 --> 00:42:17,635 ♪ At the post office or something ♪ 1028 00:42:17,724 --> 00:42:19,054 ♪ Sometimes I scribble addresses ♪ 1029 00:42:19,137 --> 00:42:20,413 ♪ Too sloppy when I jot 'em ♪ 1030 00:42:20,517 --> 00:42:22,675 ♪ But anyways, fuck it, what's been up, man ♪ 1031 00:42:22,758 --> 00:42:23,896 ♪ How's your daughter ♪ 1032 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,054 ♪ My girlfriend's pregnant too ♪ 1033 00:42:25,137 --> 00:42:26,517 ♪ I'm 'bout to be a father ♪ 1034 00:42:26,620 --> 00:42:28,399 ♪ If I have a daughter, guess what I'ma call her ♪ 1035 00:42:28,482 --> 00:42:30,000 ♪ I'ma name her Bonnie ♪ 1036 00:42:30,103 --> 00:42:32,448 ♪ I read about your Uncle Ronnie too, I'm sorry ♪ 1037 00:42:32,586 --> 00:42:34,537 ♪ I had a friend kill himself over some bitch ♪ 1038 00:42:34,620 --> 00:42:35,931 ♪ Who didn't want him ♪ 1039 00:42:36,034 --> 00:42:37,793 ♪ I know you probably hear this every day ♪ 1040 00:42:37,931 --> 00:42:39,517 ♪ But I'm your biggest fan ♪ 1041 00:42:39,620 --> 00:42:41,848 ♪ I even got the underground shit that you did with Skam ♪ 1042 00:42:41,931 --> 00:42:43,620 ♪ I got a room full of your posters ♪ 1043 00:42:43,758 --> 00:42:45,068 ♪ And your pictures, man ♪ 1044 00:42:45,172 --> 00:42:46,813 ♪ I like the shit you did with Rawkus too ♪ 1045 00:42:46,896 --> 00:42:48,192 ♪ That shit was phat ♪ 1046 00:42:48,275 --> 00:42:49,965 ♪ Anyways, I hope you get this, man ♪ 1047 00:42:50,103 --> 00:42:51,448 ♪ Hit me back just to chat ♪ 1048 00:42:51,551 --> 00:42:53,172 ♪ Truly yours, your biggest fan ♪ 1049 00:42:53,275 --> 00:42:54,448 ♪ This is Stan ♪ 1050 00:42:54,586 --> 00:42:57,896 ♪ My tea's gone cold, I'm wondering why ♪ 1051 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,793 I used to write him all the time. 1052 00:42:59,931 --> 00:43:01,917 I was like, hi, I'm your biggest fan. 1053 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,034 I love you so much. 1054 00:43:04,172 --> 00:43:06,517 [laughs] When I was like, 12, yeah. 1055 00:43:06,620 --> 00:43:08,068 Yeah, I wrote him a letter. 1056 00:43:08,172 --> 00:43:11,206 And then later on, I would write and be like, 1057 00:43:11,310 --> 00:43:13,241 your music is saving my life. 1058 00:43:13,344 --> 00:43:15,000 Thank you for everything. 1059 00:43:15,103 --> 00:43:17,724 I actually took a few hours writing all the things 1060 00:43:17,862 --> 00:43:22,344 I wanted to, but I thought it was, I don't know, 1061 00:43:22,482 --> 00:43:24,296 like too much like "Stan." 1062 00:43:24,379 --> 00:43:27,744 I wrote one email about 10 years ago. 1063 00:43:27,827 --> 00:43:29,034 I haven't heard nothing back, 1064 00:43:29,137 --> 00:43:30,468 but I'm still got my fingers crossed. 1065 00:43:30,551 --> 00:43:32,482 It's only been 10 years. We good. 1066 00:43:32,586 --> 00:43:34,689 ♪ Dear Slim, you still ain't called or wrote ♪ 1067 00:43:34,793 --> 00:43:35,689 ♪ I hope you have a chance ♪ 1068 00:43:35,793 --> 00:43:37,172 ♪ I ain't mad ♪ 1069 00:43:37,310 --> 00:43:38,951 ♪ I just think it's fucked up you don't answer fans ♪ 1070 00:43:39,034 --> 00:43:40,365 ♪ If you didn't want to talk to me ♪ 1071 00:43:40,448 --> 00:43:42,344 ♪ Outside the concert, you didn't have to ♪ 1072 00:43:42,448 --> 00:43:44,503 ♪ But you could have signed an autograph for Matthew ♪ 1073 00:43:44,586 --> 00:43:45,551 ♪ That's my little brother, man ♪ 1074 00:43:45,655 --> 00:43:47,000 ♪ He's only six years old ♪ 1075 00:43:47,103 --> 00:43:49,068 ♪ We waited in the blistering cold for you ♪ 1076 00:43:49,172 --> 00:43:51,000 ♪ For four hours and you just said no ♪ 1077 00:43:51,137 --> 00:43:52,296 ♪ That's pretty shitty, man ♪ 1078 00:43:52,379 --> 00:43:53,827 ♪ You're like his fucking idol ♪ 1079 00:43:53,965 --> 00:43:55,089 ♪ He wants to be just like you, man ♪ 1080 00:43:55,172 --> 00:43:56,655 ♪ He likes you more than I do ♪ 1081 00:43:56,758 --> 00:44:01,103 Stan, he's a really, really, really hardcore fan of Eminem, 1082 00:44:01,206 --> 00:44:02,710 and he believes he's in, like, 1083 00:44:02,793 --> 00:44:06,241 a parasocial relationship with Eminem. 1084 00:44:06,344 --> 00:44:09,448 Parasocial relationship is a one-way 1085 00:44:09,551 --> 00:44:13,034 mediated relationship where it's like, there is Eminem. 1086 00:44:13,137 --> 00:44:14,551 He's on stage performing. 1087 00:44:14,655 --> 00:44:16,020 He's in music videos. 1088 00:44:16,103 --> 00:44:19,503 And you start to feel like you know this person. 1089 00:44:19,586 --> 00:44:21,241 ♪ Bad ♪ 1090 00:44:21,344 --> 00:44:23,848 Over time, parasocial relationships, 1091 00:44:23,931 --> 00:44:27,710 they increase in psychological intensity. 1092 00:44:27,793 --> 00:44:30,724 They can develop into what's called identification. 1093 00:44:30,827 --> 00:44:33,192 You become so absorbed, 1094 00:44:33,275 --> 00:44:36,241 you start to take on his attitudes 1095 00:44:36,344 --> 00:44:37,793 and beliefs and behaviors. 1096 00:44:37,931 --> 00:44:39,985 ♪ I can relate to what you're saying in your songs ♪ 1097 00:44:40,068 --> 00:44:41,330 ♪ So when I have a shitty day ♪ 1098 00:44:41,413 --> 00:44:43,020 ♪ I drift away and put 'em on ♪ 1099 00:44:43,103 --> 00:44:44,275 ♪ Because I don't ♪ 1100 00:44:44,413 --> 00:44:46,330 After that you get to what's called worship... 1101 00:44:46,413 --> 00:44:49,068 ♪ I even got a tattoo of your name across the chest ♪ 1102 00:44:49,172 --> 00:44:51,068 Is when you treat the media persona 1103 00:44:51,172 --> 00:44:52,896 like a godlike figure. 1104 00:44:53,034 --> 00:44:54,675 It is the less healthy place 1105 00:44:54,758 --> 00:44:56,330 you want to be on the spectrum. 1106 00:44:56,413 --> 00:44:57,985 ♪ See, everything you say is real ♪ 1107 00:44:58,068 --> 00:44:59,848 ♪ And I respect you 'cause you tell it ♪ 1108 00:44:59,931 --> 00:45:02,689 ♪ My girlfriend's jealous 'cause I talk about you 24/7 ♪ 1109 00:45:02,793 --> 00:45:04,000 I mean, I could relate. 1110 00:45:04,137 --> 00:45:05,517 I was like, yeah, that happens. 1111 00:45:05,655 --> 00:45:07,793 Really awesome fans that can get, 1112 00:45:07,896 --> 00:45:10,137 you know... you're like their best friend, 1113 00:45:10,275 --> 00:45:11,517 and you don't even know it. 1114 00:45:11,655 --> 00:45:12,744 ♪ Sincerely yours, Stan ♪ 1115 00:45:12,827 --> 00:45:14,744 ♪ PS, we should be together too ♪ 1116 00:45:14,827 --> 00:45:17,744 ♪ My tea's gone cold, I'm wondering why ♪ 1117 00:45:17,827 --> 00:45:20,000 The connotations from the song 1118 00:45:20,137 --> 00:45:23,310 are somebody that is a crazy fan. 1119 00:45:23,413 --> 00:45:25,965 It's probably how a lot of people see me, 1120 00:45:26,068 --> 00:45:28,310 I would imagine. 1121 00:45:28,413 --> 00:45:30,917 ♪ Dear Mr. I'm Too Good to Call or Write My Fans ♪ 1122 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,000 ♪ This will be the last package I ever send your ass ♪ 1123 00:45:34,103 --> 00:45:35,606 ♪ It's been six months and still no word ♪ 1124 00:45:35,689 --> 00:45:37,089 ♪ I don't deserve it ♪ 1125 00:45:37,172 --> 00:45:38,779 ♪ I know you got my last two letters ♪ 1126 00:45:38,862 --> 00:45:40,123 ♪ I wrote the addresses on 'em perfect ♪ 1127 00:45:40,206 --> 00:45:42,137 Reaching out, reaching out, and no answer. 1128 00:45:42,241 --> 00:45:46,310 I could see how that could affect someone. 1129 00:45:46,448 --> 00:45:48,310 ♪ Hey, Slim, I drank a fifth of vodka ♪ 1130 00:45:48,413 --> 00:45:49,931 ♪ You dare me to drive ♪ 1131 00:45:50,034 --> 00:45:51,054 ♪ You know that song by Phil Collins ♪ 1132 00:45:51,137 --> 00:45:52,261 That's extreme. 1133 00:45:52,344 --> 00:45:55,089 But then at the same time, I was so someone 1134 00:45:55,172 --> 00:45:56,848 that was like, well, why isn't one of my... 1135 00:45:56,931 --> 00:45:58,572 why isn't it one of my letters he's reading? 1136 00:45:58,655 --> 00:45:59,827 ♪ That's kinda how this is ♪ 1137 00:45:59,965 --> 00:46:01,158 ♪ You could have rescued me from drowning ♪ 1138 00:46:01,241 --> 00:46:02,931 It was one of those moments where 1139 00:46:03,034 --> 00:46:05,689 I had to look in the mirror and be like, wow, 1140 00:46:05,793 --> 00:46:07,641 am I one of these crazy Stans? 1141 00:46:07,724 --> 00:46:09,241 ♪ Well, gotta go ♪ 1142 00:46:09,344 --> 00:46:10,365 ♪ I'm almost at the bridge now ♪ 1143 00:46:10,448 --> 00:46:11,724 ♪ Oh, shit, I forgot ♪ 1144 00:46:11,862 --> 00:46:13,606 ♪ How am I supposed to send this shit out ♪ 1145 00:46:13,689 --> 00:46:16,689 [tires screeching, screaming] 1146 00:46:24,965 --> 00:46:27,068 I was shocked. 1147 00:46:27,172 --> 00:46:30,413 I mean, my first reaction was, did this actually happen? 1148 00:46:30,517 --> 00:46:32,296 I don't think he's a real person, 1149 00:46:32,379 --> 00:46:34,551 but it's definitely possible that there's 1150 00:46:34,655 --> 00:46:36,296 somebody out there like that. 1151 00:46:36,379 --> 00:46:39,172 [somber music] 1152 00:46:39,310 --> 00:46:45,206 1153 00:46:45,310 --> 00:46:47,089 I think there are people out there that have 1154 00:46:47,172 --> 00:46:52,020 that type of mental obsession over another person, 1155 00:46:52,103 --> 00:46:55,123 and I believe that it does come from a real place. 1156 00:46:55,206 --> 00:46:57,675 Whether it is exaggerated or not 1157 00:46:57,758 --> 00:46:59,551 is all depending on the creator. 1158 00:46:59,655 --> 00:47:05,000 ♪ ♪ 1159 00:47:05,103 --> 00:47:08,965 But I believe it is coming from a real place. 1160 00:47:09,103 --> 00:47:13,793 If it wasn't a real person who actually did do that... 1161 00:47:13,896 --> 00:47:17,931 ♪ ♪ 1162 00:47:18,068 --> 00:47:22,586 It's a message to all of his fame. 1163 00:47:22,689 --> 00:47:25,724 [engine rumbling] 1164 00:47:28,413 --> 00:47:30,413 [vehicle rumbles] 1165 00:47:32,551 --> 00:47:33,793 Hi. 1166 00:47:43,620 --> 00:47:47,862 But the word "Stan" changed with the time. 1167 00:47:47,965 --> 00:47:52,931 Stan, in 2024, it's being crazy of something. 1168 00:47:53,068 --> 00:47:55,793 Like, very, very crazy. 1169 00:47:55,896 --> 00:47:57,931 Like, really, really crazy. 1170 00:48:12,931 --> 00:48:14,931 I never killed my wife. 1171 00:48:16,620 --> 00:48:19,000 I've never been crazy like him. 1172 00:48:20,172 --> 00:48:23,517 I don't have a wife, by the way, but I'm just saying. 1173 00:48:29,620 --> 00:48:32,434 Well, so... 1174 00:48:32,517 --> 00:48:34,448 OK, so you guys think this about me. 1175 00:48:34,551 --> 00:48:36,000 That's fine. 1176 00:48:38,827 --> 00:48:40,448 Not because I don't want to, 1177 00:48:40,551 --> 00:48:44,503 but because it was too big to me. 1178 00:48:44,586 --> 00:48:48,068 I had and I still have a dream, 1179 00:48:48,172 --> 00:48:52,241 is to travel and discover Detroit. 1180 00:48:52,344 --> 00:48:58,344 Because I grew up with Eminem, so I wanted to... 1181 00:48:58,448 --> 00:49:03,103 to know and to understand where Eminem came from. 1182 00:49:03,206 --> 00:49:09,068 So my family thought that 1183 00:49:09,172 --> 00:49:10,793 that was all bullshit, 1184 00:49:10,896 --> 00:49:13,192 that I spent my money for nothing. 1185 00:49:13,275 --> 00:49:15,620 But you know, when you're passionate about something, 1186 00:49:15,724 --> 00:49:19,192 just do your dream. 1187 00:49:19,275 --> 00:49:20,848 That's it. 1188 00:49:20,931 --> 00:49:23,655 [indistinct chatter] 1189 00:49:57,310 --> 00:49:58,586 [Eminem's "Rap God"] 1190 00:49:58,689 --> 00:50:01,448 ♪ I'm beginning to feel like a rap god, rap god ♪ 1191 00:50:14,724 --> 00:50:16,379 How do you know Eminem's not here? 1192 00:50:27,586 --> 00:50:30,620 [playing tune on keyboard] 1193 00:50:54,103 --> 00:50:56,758 Because I was back in Paris 1194 00:50:56,896 --> 00:50:58,931 after a beautiful week in Detroit. 1195 00:50:59,068 --> 00:51:00,586 I cried. 1196 00:51:16,137 --> 00:51:20,779 ♪ ♪ 1197 00:51:20,862 --> 00:51:24,206 If "Stan" sort of showed mainstream people 1198 00:51:24,310 --> 00:51:27,572 who didn't understand how powerful a rap song could be, 1199 00:51:27,655 --> 00:51:29,137 if "Stan" did that to them... 1200 00:51:29,241 --> 00:51:31,172 [cheers and applause] 1201 00:51:31,310 --> 00:51:33,137 [pensive music] 1202 00:51:33,241 --> 00:51:37,296 Then "8 Mile" did that on a much more mainstream scale 1203 00:51:37,379 --> 00:51:39,655 across all swaths of culture. 1204 00:51:39,793 --> 00:51:45,172 1205 00:51:45,275 --> 00:51:46,434 [banging] 1206 00:51:46,517 --> 00:51:48,793 He was a global phenomenon. 1207 00:51:48,896 --> 00:51:50,296 How are you feeling? 1208 00:51:50,379 --> 00:51:52,482 -I feel good. -You feel good? 1209 00:51:52,586 --> 00:51:53,482 Yeah. 1210 00:51:53,586 --> 00:51:55,896 [tense music] 1211 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,123 All right, next up is my boy Bunny Rabbit. 1212 00:51:58,206 --> 00:51:59,517 [crowd booing] 1213 00:51:59,655 --> 00:52:01,848 He's a genius, man, a motherfucking genius. 1214 00:52:01,931 --> 00:52:02,813 DJ, kick it. 1215 00:52:02,896 --> 00:52:05,620 [scratching record] 1216 00:52:05,758 --> 00:52:07,482 All: Choke, choke, choke, choke, choke, 1217 00:52:07,586 --> 00:52:09,931 choke, choke, choke, choke! 1218 00:52:10,034 --> 00:52:12,413 I believe what they did with "8 Mile" was amazing, 1219 00:52:12,551 --> 00:52:14,103 the way that they loosely based 1220 00:52:14,206 --> 00:52:17,330 a lot of things on his life. 1221 00:52:17,413 --> 00:52:19,413 And it wasn't full full-fledged, 1222 00:52:19,517 --> 00:52:21,310 this is what happened, but... 1223 00:52:21,413 --> 00:52:23,931 so it keeps me excited because my imagination 1224 00:52:24,034 --> 00:52:25,896 starts going like, all right, so what was real? 1225 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:26,896 What wasn't real? 1226 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,675 Is that story true or not? 1227 00:52:28,758 --> 00:52:30,330 Did that really happen when they were in the parking lot 1228 00:52:30,413 --> 00:52:32,275 in the shelter? 1229 00:52:32,379 --> 00:52:35,068 Yo, that's like one of the best movies of all time, 1230 00:52:35,172 --> 00:52:37,675 if you're a rapper, 'cause it wasn't over the top. 1231 00:52:37,758 --> 00:52:39,413 It seemed like real-world shit, 1232 00:52:39,517 --> 00:52:41,241 going through it with his mom. 1233 00:52:41,344 --> 00:52:42,399 What are you doing with your life 1234 00:52:42,482 --> 00:52:44,448 that's so great, Rabbit? 1235 00:52:44,551 --> 00:52:45,951 Freestyling in the car with Proof. 1236 00:52:46,068 --> 00:52:48,365 ♪ A 1928 Delta ♪ 1237 00:52:48,448 --> 00:52:50,985 ♪ This shit won't even get me to the shelter ♪ 1238 00:52:51,068 --> 00:52:52,158 Breaking up with his girlfriend, 1239 00:52:52,241 --> 00:52:53,365 all this extra shit. 1240 00:52:53,448 --> 00:52:54,330 Like, that was real-world shit. 1241 00:52:54,413 --> 00:52:56,034 [blows raspberry] 1242 00:52:56,137 --> 00:52:59,620 Him showing a glimpse into what he went through 1243 00:52:59,758 --> 00:53:02,655 right before he got famous, it showed the world 1244 00:53:02,758 --> 00:53:06,862 that it's like, hey, I come from this background, 1245 00:53:06,965 --> 00:53:08,965 but it doesn't define me. 1246 00:53:09,068 --> 00:53:10,448 [grunts] 1247 00:53:10,551 --> 00:53:13,827 It is who I am, but I am so much more than that. 1248 00:53:13,931 --> 00:53:15,689 In my mind, we're connected. 1249 00:53:15,827 --> 00:53:17,572 In one way or another, in this universe, 1250 00:53:17,655 --> 00:53:18,710 there's a connection. 1251 00:53:18,793 --> 00:53:20,482 Yo, you... you're me. 1252 00:53:20,620 --> 00:53:21,779 You're a regular dude. 1253 00:53:21,862 --> 00:53:23,917 This is not lights, camera, action. 1254 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,482 This is Marshall Mathers, and I followed the story. 1255 00:53:27,620 --> 00:53:29,434 And most parts, I lived the story. 1256 00:53:29,517 --> 00:53:32,172 It enhanced my fandom of him because 1257 00:53:32,310 --> 00:53:35,103 I just saw how relatable he was. 1258 00:53:35,206 --> 00:53:37,724 And I didn't have, like, a male figure in my family 1259 00:53:37,827 --> 00:53:40,931 or, you know, in my household to look up to, 1260 00:53:41,034 --> 00:53:44,123 and I really looked up to him. 1261 00:53:44,206 --> 00:53:48,779 "8 Mile" did the most to explain Eminem to the world. 1262 00:53:48,862 --> 00:53:51,572 There were all these critics who were anti-Eminem. 1263 00:53:51,655 --> 00:53:53,399 Maureen Dowd, one of them at "The New York Times," 1264 00:53:53,482 --> 00:53:55,000 she had a bunch of columns, you know, 1265 00:53:55,137 --> 00:53:57,227 saying he was a misogynist and all the other things 1266 00:53:57,310 --> 00:53:58,744 that he was controversial for. 1267 00:53:58,827 --> 00:54:01,620 And then after "8 Mile," she had a column 1268 00:54:01,724 --> 00:54:05,123 about having a crush on him and talking about him 1269 00:54:05,206 --> 00:54:06,586 with other soccer mommies 1270 00:54:06,724 --> 00:54:08,241 and listening to him at the gym. 1271 00:54:08,379 --> 00:54:10,689 It explains him to a wider audience, 1272 00:54:10,827 --> 00:54:13,206 contextualizes him, but it also 1273 00:54:13,310 --> 00:54:15,172 is myth-making, for sure. 1274 00:54:15,275 --> 00:54:17,241 And I think that to the fans that 1275 00:54:17,344 --> 00:54:19,586 aren't able to separate the man from the myth, 1276 00:54:19,689 --> 00:54:21,551 this might as well be a documentary. 1277 00:54:21,655 --> 00:54:23,241 My first guest is a young man who is 1278 00:54:23,379 --> 00:54:25,586 on top of all of his games. 1279 00:54:25,724 --> 00:54:27,296 He's got the number-one song in the country, 1280 00:54:27,379 --> 00:54:28,862 the number-one album in the country, 1281 00:54:28,965 --> 00:54:31,482 and soon, the number-one movie in the country. 1282 00:54:31,586 --> 00:54:33,606 Give it up for Eminem. 1283 00:54:33,689 --> 00:54:36,206 [cheering] 1284 00:54:36,310 --> 00:54:39,068 And then it's such chaos out there that unfortunately 1285 00:54:39,172 --> 00:54:41,172 we're going to have to shut the shades, 1286 00:54:41,275 --> 00:54:43,689 but it's a real sight to be seen. 1287 00:54:43,827 --> 00:54:45,689 In the history of MTV, I have never 1288 00:54:45,827 --> 00:54:47,413 seen anything quite like it. 1289 00:54:47,517 --> 00:54:48,779 I remember being in the theater 1290 00:54:48,862 --> 00:54:50,848 that first night watching that, going, "Fuck, man." 1291 00:54:50,931 --> 00:54:53,158 "Now, that's an opening weekend for a fucking guy 1292 00:54:53,241 --> 00:54:54,586 who's not a movie star." 1293 00:54:54,724 --> 00:54:58,296 He just became a movie star like that. 1294 00:54:58,379 --> 00:54:59,503 The movie is out. 1295 00:54:59,586 --> 00:55:01,241 -How you feeling? -Good. 1296 00:55:01,379 --> 00:55:02,344 Yeah? 1297 00:55:02,448 --> 00:55:04,227 You're a little overwhelmed? 1298 00:55:04,310 --> 00:55:06,241 A lot overwhelmed, but, um... 1299 00:55:06,344 --> 00:55:09,379 [cheers and applause] 1300 00:55:12,275 --> 00:55:13,620 Proud too. 1301 00:55:13,724 --> 00:55:15,054 -I'm proud too, you know? -Yeah. 1302 00:55:15,137 --> 00:55:16,399 I'm proud and I'm... I'm happy. 1303 00:55:16,482 --> 00:55:17,710 I'm excited. 1304 00:55:17,793 --> 00:55:19,158 You know, if it wasn't for these fans, 1305 00:55:19,241 --> 00:55:20,793 I wouldn't have got to this level 1306 00:55:20,931 --> 00:55:24,241 to be enabled to do my own movies and things like that, 1307 00:55:24,344 --> 00:55:27,310 and have this kind of power and this kind of control, 1308 00:55:27,413 --> 00:55:28,537 and I'm loving it. 1309 00:55:28,620 --> 00:55:30,241 Yo, let me ask you this... 1310 00:55:30,344 --> 00:55:32,931 I was just looking up some stuff about Eminem online, 1311 00:55:33,034 --> 00:55:35,793 and this girl was talking about how 1312 00:55:35,896 --> 00:55:37,882 she apparently was spending time 1313 00:55:37,965 --> 00:55:39,413 with him while he was on tour. 1314 00:55:39,517 --> 00:55:41,310 Like, some fan girl he picked up. 1315 00:55:41,413 --> 00:55:44,655 And I thought at first that that was real, so I'm like, 1316 00:55:44,758 --> 00:55:47,655 did somebody really put that... like, that hap... 1317 00:55:47,758 --> 00:55:49,744 somebody put that out? That's insane. 1318 00:55:49,827 --> 00:55:52,241 Then when I scrolled down to the end, 1319 00:55:52,344 --> 00:55:54,448 it said fan fiction. 1320 00:55:54,551 --> 00:55:57,448 [discordant music] 1321 00:55:57,551 --> 00:55:59,793 ♪ ♪ 1322 00:55:59,896 --> 00:56:02,606 The next thing I knew, that was all I was reading, 1323 00:56:02,689 --> 00:56:05,034 'cause it was kind of addictive. 1324 00:56:05,137 --> 00:56:10,862 ♪ ♪ 1325 00:56:10,965 --> 00:56:13,779 And after, like, about three or four months of reading it, 1326 00:56:13,862 --> 00:56:17,689 I was like, why don't I write one myself? 1327 00:56:19,448 --> 00:56:23,000 I just imagined what his head space would be like. 1328 00:56:24,793 --> 00:56:26,744 It's very presumptuous of me to say, 1329 00:56:26,827 --> 00:56:28,434 oh, I'm writing this as Marshall, 1330 00:56:28,517 --> 00:56:30,434 even though it literally says Marshall's point of view 1331 00:56:30,517 --> 00:56:31,793 when I write it. 1332 00:56:31,896 --> 00:56:33,482 But you know, it's 'cause it's fiction. 1333 00:56:33,620 --> 00:56:35,896 It's OK. 1334 00:56:36,034 --> 00:56:38,261 Do you feel like you have an understanding 1335 00:56:38,344 --> 00:56:40,813 of who Marshall actually is? 1336 00:56:40,896 --> 00:56:42,744 It's kind of hard to tell with Eminem 1337 00:56:42,827 --> 00:56:44,034 because he's like... 1338 00:56:44,137 --> 00:56:47,089 as much as he puts personal shit in his songs, 1339 00:56:47,172 --> 00:56:49,606 he probably shows us only what he wants us to see. 1340 00:56:49,689 --> 00:56:52,482 [upbeat music] 1341 00:56:52,620 --> 00:56:55,089 1342 00:56:55,172 --> 00:56:56,399 What's up, ladies? 1343 00:56:56,482 --> 00:56:59,000 [cheering] 1344 00:56:59,103 --> 00:57:01,068 I was sharing a lot... 1345 00:57:01,172 --> 00:57:02,379 Aw. 1346 00:57:02,482 --> 00:57:04,551 And made it like a fucking open book. 1347 00:57:04,655 --> 00:57:06,206 And then sometimes you want to close 1348 00:57:06,310 --> 00:57:08,413 that book back a little bit because 1349 00:57:08,517 --> 00:57:10,620 did you share too much? 1350 00:57:10,758 --> 00:57:11,882 What's up? I'm Marshall, and I'm gonna to punch you 1351 00:57:11,965 --> 00:57:13,241 in the fucking throat. 1352 00:57:13,344 --> 00:57:15,413 Do you have anything left to keep to yourself? 1353 00:57:15,517 --> 00:57:16,848 I can't fucking work like this. 1354 00:57:16,931 --> 00:57:18,192 You're stressing me out. 1355 00:57:18,275 --> 00:57:19,758 [door creaks] 1356 00:57:19,896 --> 00:57:21,586 "-" Before I was famous, everything 1357 00:57:21,689 --> 00:57:23,758 "was moving in slow motion. 1358 00:57:23,896 --> 00:57:26,158 "Now it seems like somebody has pressed 1359 00:57:26,241 --> 00:57:27,827 "the fucking fast forward button, 1360 00:57:27,931 --> 00:57:30,068 "and my life just seems to be rushing by. 1361 00:57:30,206 --> 00:57:33,137 It sometimes feels like a strange movie." 1362 00:57:33,241 --> 00:57:34,793 I couldn't imagine how jarring it is 1363 00:57:34,896 --> 00:57:39,848 to go from being where he started out in 8 Mile 1364 00:57:39,931 --> 00:57:43,882 to the level of fame and success and wealth 1365 00:57:43,965 --> 00:57:48,275 and confinement that comes along with celebrity. 1366 00:57:48,379 --> 00:57:49,379 Unreal. 1367 00:57:49,482 --> 00:57:50,896 Hey, Em. 1368 00:57:51,034 --> 00:57:52,158 Don't... don't come over here, man. 1369 00:57:52,241 --> 00:57:53,103 Hey, Em. 1370 00:57:53,241 --> 00:57:54,137 All right? 1371 00:57:54,241 --> 00:57:55,758 Hey, have a good concert. 1372 00:57:55,862 --> 00:57:58,413 The way that he talks about fame in his music, 1373 00:57:58,517 --> 00:58:00,413 it's like he wishes that he could just 1374 00:58:00,517 --> 00:58:03,931 go and be a normal person and go to the store 1375 00:58:04,034 --> 00:58:05,399 and things like that. 1376 00:58:05,482 --> 00:58:06,951 And I think it feels like an invasion. 1377 00:58:07,034 --> 00:58:08,448 Yo, what's up, Eminem? 1378 00:58:08,551 --> 00:58:09,620 So are you gonna... 1379 00:58:09,724 --> 00:58:10,965 Good to see you, man. 1380 00:58:11,068 --> 00:58:13,744 Every single day I'm on the Eminem subreddit. 1381 00:58:13,827 --> 00:58:16,137 There is 800,000 Stans. 1382 00:58:16,241 --> 00:58:18,793 We have guys from India and Pakistan, 1383 00:58:18,896 --> 00:58:22,137 and like, just all... all over the world. 1384 00:58:22,275 --> 00:58:25,000 We theorize, and we go back and forth, and we try 1385 00:58:25,103 --> 00:58:27,965 and, uh, figure out what goes on in his daily life. 1386 00:58:28,103 --> 00:58:29,758 Would be really cool to know, like, 1387 00:58:29,862 --> 00:58:32,227 does he go to the gym in the morning? 1388 00:58:32,310 --> 00:58:34,310 Or does he play basketball, 1389 00:58:34,448 --> 00:58:36,206 or is he in the studio all day? 1390 00:58:36,310 --> 00:58:39,000 It feels incredibly euphoric to me 1391 00:58:39,103 --> 00:58:42,261 because every post... every post you go through 1392 00:58:42,344 --> 00:58:44,779 and every little thread of information you get, 1393 00:58:44,862 --> 00:58:47,965 it gives you one step closer to getting closer to the man. 1394 00:58:48,068 --> 00:58:49,275 [crowd shouting] 1395 00:58:49,413 --> 00:58:50,275 Em! 1396 00:58:50,379 --> 00:58:51,606 Em! 1397 00:58:51,689 --> 00:58:53,227 You can look at your smartphone now 1398 00:58:53,310 --> 00:58:54,399 and look at social media and feel like 1399 00:58:54,482 --> 00:58:56,827 you have a direct line to these people now. 1400 00:58:56,965 --> 00:58:59,606 There's definitely a very thin line 1401 00:58:59,689 --> 00:59:01,296 when you go from that follow button, 1402 00:59:01,379 --> 00:59:03,468 and then all of a sudden, you're following someone. 1403 00:59:03,551 --> 00:59:06,813 Conversely, I'm following them. 1404 00:59:06,896 --> 00:59:09,034 And it's like, I need to know every new thing 1405 00:59:09,137 --> 00:59:12,172 about this person, and I think that takes some people 1406 00:59:12,275 --> 00:59:14,689 down some dark roads. 1407 00:59:14,793 --> 00:59:17,379 I'm sure it feels like a prison, 1408 00:59:17,517 --> 00:59:21,034 where you can't go anywhere without being recognized. 1409 00:59:21,172 --> 00:59:24,034 [ominous music] 1410 00:59:24,172 --> 00:59:31,206 1411 00:59:36,206 --> 00:59:40,517 There's definitely a shift of him becoming 1412 00:59:40,620 --> 00:59:42,724 a little bit more withdrawn 1413 00:59:42,862 --> 00:59:44,896 from all of the fame. 1414 01:00:19,275 --> 01:00:21,158 [projector whirring] 1415 01:00:21,241 --> 01:00:23,551 I live in that same area where I do hear from people, 1416 01:00:23,655 --> 01:00:25,034 like, oh, my God, Eminem moved here 1417 01:00:25,137 --> 01:00:26,123 and his address is this, 1418 01:00:26,206 --> 01:00:27,689 and oh, I was trick-or-treating, 1419 01:00:27,793 --> 01:00:29,206 and I went to his house. 1420 01:00:29,344 --> 01:00:33,758 And it's like he can't even live normally. 1421 01:00:35,206 --> 01:00:37,985 I've always been like, oh, I want to meet him so bad. 1422 01:00:38,068 --> 01:00:39,537 It's almost like a double-edged sword, 1423 01:00:39,620 --> 01:00:41,572 because what would I do, run up to him and be like, 1424 01:00:41,655 --> 01:00:42,931 oh, my God, Eminem? 1425 01:00:43,034 --> 01:00:45,413 And that's, like, not what he wants. 1426 01:00:45,517 --> 01:00:47,261 But at the same time, it's, like, all I want. 1427 01:00:47,344 --> 01:00:50,158 ♪ ♪ 1428 01:00:50,241 --> 01:00:52,034 I remember one time me and Hailie 1429 01:00:52,137 --> 01:00:53,689 went to the mall in LA. 1430 01:00:53,793 --> 01:00:57,034 It was the last time I went to the mall as me, right? 1431 01:00:57,137 --> 01:01:00,330 Like, not fucking disguised. 1432 01:01:00,413 --> 01:01:04,192 And, um, every store we went in, we come out, 1433 01:01:04,275 --> 01:01:05,793 and there's another... a bigger crowd 1434 01:01:05,931 --> 01:01:08,793 and a bigger crowd and a bigger crowd. 1435 01:01:08,931 --> 01:01:11,192 And it got to the point where I was like... 1436 01:01:11,275 --> 01:01:13,241 I picked her up, and I'm like, come on, 1437 01:01:13,344 --> 01:01:14,965 kiddo, time to go, right? 1438 01:01:15,103 --> 01:01:18,413 And I'm walking, and as I'm walking faster 1439 01:01:18,517 --> 01:01:19,848 and faster and faster, they're walking 1440 01:01:19,931 --> 01:01:21,103 faster and faster and faster. 1441 01:01:21,241 --> 01:01:22,744 And I literally felt like I was being chased 1442 01:01:22,827 --> 01:01:24,896 out the fucking mall. 1443 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:29,882 And that was one of those moments 1444 01:01:29,965 --> 01:01:34,137 where I realized, like, my life really has changed. 1445 01:01:34,275 --> 01:01:38,103 Like, I can't... I can't do this anymore, right? 1446 01:01:38,206 --> 01:01:40,517 'Cause I got to protect my baby. 1447 01:01:40,620 --> 01:01:43,793 So that was a scary... that was a scary moment, 1448 01:01:43,931 --> 01:01:45,020 and scary for her too. 1449 01:01:45,103 --> 01:01:46,813 I asked her. She... she doesn't remember it. 1450 01:01:46,896 --> 01:01:47,985 She was too little to remember it. 1451 01:01:48,068 --> 01:01:51,620 But I remember it, and it was fucking crazy. 1452 01:02:01,344 --> 01:02:04,482 But people do not realize how dangerous... 1453 01:02:07,862 --> 01:02:11,813 Some people who are attracted to Eminem 1454 01:02:11,896 --> 01:02:14,517 might not be the best-intentioned people 1455 01:02:14,620 --> 01:02:18,137 and who could be aggressive or violent. 1456 01:02:18,241 --> 01:02:20,793 We've seen it with other artists, who a super-fan 1457 01:02:20,896 --> 01:02:22,827 has, you know, come after them. 1458 01:02:22,965 --> 01:02:30,000 1459 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,000 I definitely feared for his safety. 1460 01:02:34,103 --> 01:02:35,296 Sometimes you get obsessive fans 1461 01:02:35,379 --> 01:02:37,344 that are mentally unstable. 1462 01:02:37,482 --> 01:02:40,931 1463 01:02:41,034 --> 01:02:42,379 I'm protective of Eminem. 1464 01:02:42,482 --> 01:02:45,103 Oh, my God, if anything happened to Em... oh, my God, 1465 01:02:45,206 --> 01:02:46,379 I'd come swinging. 1466 01:02:46,482 --> 01:02:49,448 ♪ ♪ 1467 01:02:49,551 --> 01:02:53,068 You just never know, within this profession that we have, 1468 01:02:53,206 --> 01:02:55,275 if there's somebody out there lurking 1469 01:02:55,379 --> 01:02:58,123 that's creating this fantasy in their own head 1470 01:02:58,206 --> 01:03:01,848 because you're not responding to them. 1471 01:03:01,931 --> 01:03:04,793 That's the scariest shit ever. 1472 01:03:04,896 --> 01:03:06,537 Following and tracking him 1473 01:03:06,620 --> 01:03:08,241 like he's not a regular person, 1474 01:03:08,344 --> 01:03:09,448 you're not a fan at all. 1475 01:03:16,724 --> 01:03:18,793 11 years of policing, I've seen all kinds 1476 01:03:18,931 --> 01:03:20,103 of dark, twisty shit. 1477 01:03:20,241 --> 01:03:22,020 When you get that famous, you can't talk to everybody. 1478 01:03:22,103 --> 01:03:24,054 You can't say hi to everybody. You can't meet everybody. 1479 01:03:24,137 --> 01:03:27,882 And so I don't think that this kid Stan got that. 1480 01:03:27,965 --> 01:03:30,572 If the Stan character existed today, 1481 01:03:30,655 --> 01:03:32,103 he would certainly follow Eminem 1482 01:03:32,206 --> 01:03:35,310 on every platform, maybe run a fan page, 1483 01:03:35,413 --> 01:03:37,310 definitely on Eminem Reddit. 1484 01:03:37,448 --> 01:03:40,310 Would be writing to him on each of his 1485 01:03:40,413 --> 01:03:44,275 social media accounts every day. 1486 01:03:44,379 --> 01:03:46,744 With the song "Stan," it's almost like 1487 01:03:46,827 --> 01:03:50,227 a PSA to his fans, like, please don't do this. 1488 01:03:50,310 --> 01:03:52,379 This is not what I want. 1489 01:03:58,068 --> 01:04:00,965 [dramatic music] 1490 01:04:01,068 --> 01:04:04,000 When I saw him in 2005's Anger Management tour, 1491 01:04:04,103 --> 01:04:05,137 I was in college. 1492 01:04:05,241 --> 01:04:08,089 Came there to the show with my friend. 1493 01:04:08,172 --> 01:04:09,862 [cheering] 1494 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:15,000 This is when he was touring nationwide with D12... 1495 01:04:15,103 --> 01:04:16,917 Yeah, man, we out here having a good time 1496 01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,827 on this tour, so far, so good. 1497 01:04:18,931 --> 01:04:20,206 And with 50 Cent... 1498 01:04:20,344 --> 01:04:21,517 -50... -No, don't tell me. 1499 01:04:21,620 --> 01:04:22,572 I know I did good. 1500 01:04:22,655 --> 01:04:24,068 [laughter] 1501 01:04:24,172 --> 01:04:26,965 And with Lil Jon and the East Side Boyz. 1502 01:04:27,068 --> 01:04:28,551 We out, bitch! 1503 01:04:28,655 --> 01:04:32,000 Which to this day has been one of the best 1504 01:04:32,103 --> 01:04:34,206 tours that I've ever seen. 1505 01:04:34,344 --> 01:04:36,724 The atmosphere of touring and the partying 1506 01:04:36,827 --> 01:04:39,137 and getting up in the morning and catching the flights 1507 01:04:39,241 --> 01:04:40,985 and the plane and the jet lag 1508 01:04:41,068 --> 01:04:43,448 and riding the bus and not being able to sleep, 1509 01:04:43,551 --> 01:04:44,551 it's hard. 1510 01:04:44,655 --> 01:04:46,779 It ends up running you down. 1511 01:04:46,862 --> 01:04:48,275 We're done in Detroit. 1512 01:04:48,379 --> 01:04:49,482 Europe next. 1513 01:04:49,586 --> 01:04:50,827 Wow. 1514 01:04:50,931 --> 01:04:53,641 It's almost like I have to get off the road 1515 01:04:53,724 --> 01:04:57,482 every now and then and take a break, or I'll go crazy. 1516 01:04:57,586 --> 01:05:00,586 [somber music] 1517 01:05:00,689 --> 01:05:03,068 ♪ ♪ 1518 01:05:03,172 --> 01:05:05,848 I was supposed to be going to see him in Manchester, 1519 01:05:05,931 --> 01:05:07,848 and he canceled because he was... 1520 01:05:07,931 --> 01:05:11,068 well, exhaustion, he... he told everyone at the time. 1521 01:05:11,172 --> 01:05:14,586 It was a bit of a shock. 1522 01:05:14,724 --> 01:05:16,275 I actually had tickets for him, 1523 01:05:16,379 --> 01:05:18,503 whenever the Anger Management tour was that he canceled. 1524 01:05:18,586 --> 01:05:19,848 I had tickets to that show. 1525 01:05:19,931 --> 01:05:21,620 I remember at the time being obviously 1526 01:05:21,758 --> 01:05:23,896 supremely disappointed, but it wasn't a secret, 1527 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,724 the struggles that he was going through. 1528 01:05:27,862 --> 01:05:29,137 That's why I'm pill-adverse, 1529 01:05:29,241 --> 01:05:30,793 knowing how it got to him. 1530 01:05:30,896 --> 01:05:33,241 Even... I think I had, like, my wisdom teeth out 1531 01:05:33,344 --> 01:05:36,103 and whatnot, and I wouldn't even take the hydrocodones 1532 01:05:36,241 --> 01:05:38,365 because I'm like, I can't take too many because this is... 1533 01:05:38,448 --> 01:05:40,103 this is the stuff that'll get you. 1534 01:05:40,206 --> 01:05:42,931 ♪ ♪ 1535 01:05:43,034 --> 01:05:44,655 I was on vacation for a few days, 1536 01:05:44,758 --> 01:05:49,482 and I came back, and my mom came to pick me... 1537 01:05:49,586 --> 01:05:51,586 pick me up at the airport. 1538 01:05:51,689 --> 01:05:54,503 And she looked at me like she never looked at me like this 1539 01:05:54,586 --> 01:05:59,620 before, and she said, "Zolt, someone from 1540 01:05:59,724 --> 01:06:01,951 Eminem friends passed away." 1541 01:06:02,034 --> 01:06:04,310 Rapper Deshaun Holton, better known as Proof, 1542 01:06:04,448 --> 01:06:06,310 one of the founders of the rap group D12 1543 01:06:06,448 --> 01:06:09,172 and a close friend of sometime D12 member Eminem, 1544 01:06:09,310 --> 01:06:11,572 was shot and killed at a Detroit nightclub. 1545 01:06:11,655 --> 01:06:13,310 He was 32 years old. 1546 01:06:13,448 --> 01:06:14,985 Proof often shared the stage with Eminem. 1547 01:06:15,068 --> 01:06:16,628 He was even the best man at Em's wedding 1548 01:06:16,724 --> 01:06:19,344 this past January, but he was also... 1549 01:06:19,482 --> 01:06:22,827 I want you to listen to him, give him a chance. 1550 01:06:22,965 --> 01:06:26,793 Put your hands together for the funky honky Eminem. 1551 01:06:26,931 --> 01:06:29,827 [somber music] 1552 01:06:29,931 --> 01:06:31,103 ♪ ♪ 1553 01:06:31,206 --> 01:06:32,744 My name is Slim Shady. 1554 01:06:32,827 --> 01:06:34,862 Yo, this is MC Proof, and this is my DJ... 1555 01:06:34,965 --> 01:06:35,931 I cry. 1556 01:06:36,034 --> 01:06:37,103 I immediately cry. 1557 01:06:37,206 --> 01:06:39,710 I said to my mom, "Sorry, I can't go to the school. 1558 01:06:39,793 --> 01:06:41,434 It's too much for me, too much." 1559 01:06:41,517 --> 01:06:43,758 It took three months, and even after three months, 1560 01:06:43,862 --> 01:06:46,434 when I came back to the... to the school... 1561 01:06:46,517 --> 01:06:49,137 [clears throat] Man. 1562 01:06:49,241 --> 01:06:52,655 Even thinking about it really want to make me cry about it. 1563 01:06:54,344 --> 01:06:56,089 When he lost Proof, I cried with him 1564 01:06:56,172 --> 01:06:59,054 'cause I knew exactly what he felt. 1565 01:06:59,137 --> 01:07:00,310 I lost my cousin, 1566 01:07:00,413 --> 01:07:03,551 and I lost him in a bad, bad way. 1567 01:07:03,655 --> 01:07:05,517 The one person that had my back since 1568 01:07:05,620 --> 01:07:08,296 I was a kid, that always was with me, 1569 01:07:08,379 --> 01:07:11,413 is not here to help me no more. 1570 01:07:11,551 --> 01:07:13,034 All I was doing was just popping pills 1571 01:07:13,172 --> 01:07:14,689 and just laying in bed all day. 1572 01:07:14,793 --> 01:07:16,689 If he died, I should die. 1573 01:07:16,827 --> 01:07:18,758 That's how I felt. 1574 01:07:23,068 --> 01:07:25,123 [breathes deeply] 1575 01:07:25,206 --> 01:07:27,482 I'm sorry. Give me a second. 1576 01:07:30,517 --> 01:07:33,551 [somber music] 1577 01:07:33,689 --> 01:07:37,241 You know, just, I've lost a lot of people. 1578 01:07:37,344 --> 01:07:40,296 Um, I've lost my sister. I lost my dad. 1579 01:07:40,379 --> 01:07:41,468 I lost my nephew. 1580 01:07:41,551 --> 01:07:43,641 So all, like, my close family's, you know, 1581 01:07:43,724 --> 01:07:44,985 halfway gone. 1582 01:07:45,068 --> 01:07:47,068 Um, but my nephew was, like, the worst, 1583 01:07:47,206 --> 01:07:49,503 'cause he was, like, my best friend. 1584 01:07:49,586 --> 01:07:52,068 In 2016, like January, he like, 1585 01:07:52,172 --> 01:07:54,241 complained about having a sore neck, 1586 01:07:54,379 --> 01:07:55,951 I think it was, and doctors were like, 1587 01:07:56,034 --> 01:07:57,951 oh, sinus infection, this, this, this. 1588 01:07:58,034 --> 01:07:59,227 My sister was taking him every... 1589 01:07:59,310 --> 01:08:00,572 like, all the time, like... and he was someone 1590 01:08:00,655 --> 01:08:01,827 that never complained. 1591 01:08:01,931 --> 01:08:03,896 Um, he would never tell you when he was sick, 1592 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,310 so that was already odd. 1593 01:08:05,448 --> 01:08:08,482 So finally some doctor was like, yeah, 1594 01:08:08,620 --> 01:08:10,448 no, this is stage IV lymphoma. 1595 01:08:10,551 --> 01:08:11,675 You know, when my nephew passed, 1596 01:08:11,758 --> 01:08:15,192 I was like, fuck this, and I tried to overdose, 1597 01:08:15,275 --> 01:08:17,503 um, after his funeral was over. 1598 01:08:17,586 --> 01:08:21,103 [machinery beeping] 1599 01:08:21,206 --> 01:08:24,448 I woke up in the hospital with my heart doctor 1600 01:08:24,551 --> 01:08:26,931 at the bottom of my bed like a dad, 1601 01:08:27,068 --> 01:08:30,192 just telling me never to do that shit again, 1602 01:08:30,275 --> 01:08:34,054 and I listen to Eminem because him losing Proof, 1603 01:08:34,137 --> 01:08:36,572 I feel like I really can resonate with that 1604 01:08:36,655 --> 01:08:39,689 because that was literally my other half. 1605 01:08:41,931 --> 01:08:43,793 Why is it so rare that the public 1606 01:08:43,896 --> 01:08:45,192 gets to see Eminem nowadays? What's... 1607 01:08:45,275 --> 01:08:46,724 Yeah, why is it like that? 1608 01:08:50,172 --> 01:08:52,275 I actually need him to make my music. 1609 01:08:52,379 --> 01:08:53,896 So he be busy. 1610 01:08:55,413 --> 01:08:59,620 And he had the white shirt with big Proof on the shirt. 1611 01:09:13,896 --> 01:09:15,068 It was... I didn't... 1612 01:09:15,172 --> 01:09:19,517 I didn't want to see Marshall like this, so... 1613 01:09:19,620 --> 01:09:22,172 Guys, you gotta tell me, what's the latest 1614 01:09:22,275 --> 01:09:23,655 with the new D12 album? 1615 01:09:23,758 --> 01:09:25,261 It's all in the memory of Proof, 1616 01:09:25,344 --> 01:09:27,184 -everything that he was. -Shout out to Proof. 1617 01:09:27,275 --> 01:09:29,296 -You know what I mean? -Yeah. 1618 01:09:29,379 --> 01:09:31,482 Rest... rest in peace, big baby. 1619 01:09:31,586 --> 01:09:33,206 It was one of the toughest times, 1620 01:09:33,344 --> 01:09:36,468 if not the toughest time in his life, that we know of. 1621 01:09:36,551 --> 01:09:39,813 And it was kind of, I think, a when it rains, it pours. 1622 01:09:39,896 --> 01:09:43,551 My dad, he passed unexpectedly when I was entering 1623 01:09:43,655 --> 01:09:45,813 my freshman year of college. 1624 01:09:45,896 --> 01:09:51,468 You know, listening to him talking about his grief 1625 01:09:51,551 --> 01:09:55,434 and the lows that he went through... 1626 01:09:55,517 --> 01:09:57,896 I mean, I connect to that. 1627 01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,689 ♪ And Proof I'm truly sorry if I let you down ♪ 1628 01:10:00,827 --> 01:10:02,827 ♪ But this tore me in two ♪ 1629 01:10:02,965 --> 01:10:05,517 ♪ The thought of no more me and you ♪ 1630 01:10:05,620 --> 01:10:07,434 ♪ You gave me shoes, Nikes like new ♪ 1631 01:10:07,517 --> 01:10:09,434 ♪ For me for school ♪ 1632 01:10:09,517 --> 01:10:11,917 ♪ Doody, I'm trying, but you, you were the glue ♪ 1633 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,689 ♪ That binded so many things, time ♪ 1634 01:10:13,793 --> 01:10:15,931 ♪ I'd give anything to rewind it ♪ 1635 01:10:16,034 --> 01:10:18,965 ♪ I had to walk down my halls and constantly be reminded ♪ 1636 01:10:19,068 --> 01:10:20,517 ♪ By pictures all on my walls ♪ 1637 01:10:20,620 --> 01:10:21,917 ♪ And I couldn't sleep at night ♪ 1638 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,724 ♪ 'Cause that image burned in my brain ♪ 1639 01:10:23,862 --> 01:10:26,379 ♪ Of you on the table, me falling across your body ♪ 1640 01:10:26,517 --> 01:10:28,586 ♪ Not able to stand to save you ♪ 1641 01:10:28,689 --> 01:10:30,689 ♪ God, why did you take him? ♪ 1642 01:10:34,482 --> 01:10:36,296 I was really worried for Marshall 1643 01:10:36,379 --> 01:10:39,137 during those years, for his well-being, 1644 01:10:39,241 --> 01:10:41,655 spiritually, physically. 1645 01:10:41,758 --> 01:10:45,172 Didn't know how it was going to alter the future. 1646 01:10:45,275 --> 01:10:47,310 I'd got into this vicious cycle of, 1647 01:10:47,413 --> 01:10:50,296 I'm depressed so I need more pills. 1648 01:10:50,379 --> 01:10:52,434 And then your tolerance gets so high 1649 01:10:52,517 --> 01:10:54,951 that you end up overdosing. 1650 01:10:55,034 --> 01:10:57,655 I woke up in the hospital, and I didn't 1651 01:10:57,758 --> 01:10:59,068 know what the fuck happened. 1652 01:10:59,172 --> 01:11:00,931 Like, it... it seemed like I... 1653 01:11:01,034 --> 01:11:02,365 I fell asleep, and I woke up, 1654 01:11:02,448 --> 01:11:03,813 and I woke up with tubes in me and shit. 1655 01:11:03,896 --> 01:11:05,068 I wanted to get up. 1656 01:11:05,172 --> 01:11:06,482 I couldn't move. 1657 01:11:08,862 --> 01:11:13,068 After the overdose, I came home going, 1658 01:11:13,172 --> 01:11:18,241 yo, bro, I need something, and I fucking went to town. 1659 01:11:18,379 --> 01:11:21,330 So I was really, like, inside knowing, like, 1660 01:11:21,413 --> 01:11:22,931 I need to fucking... 1661 01:11:23,068 --> 01:11:26,206 I'm going to die if I don't... if I don't do something. 1662 01:11:28,448 --> 01:11:31,586 I had this video that they brought me 1663 01:11:31,689 --> 01:11:34,985 because I missed Hailie's first guitar recital. 1664 01:11:35,068 --> 01:11:37,379 The amount of guilt that I felt, 1665 01:11:37,482 --> 01:11:40,413 I cried when I saw it 'cause I was like, 1666 01:11:40,517 --> 01:11:43,330 oh, my God, I missed that. 1667 01:11:43,413 --> 01:11:46,537 And I kept saying to myself, 1668 01:11:46,620 --> 01:11:48,330 "Do you want to fucking miss this again? 1669 01:11:48,413 --> 01:11:50,965 Do you want to miss everything?" 1670 01:11:51,068 --> 01:11:53,896 ♪ ♪ 1671 01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:55,261 If you can't do it for yourself, 1672 01:11:55,344 --> 01:11:58,379 you fucking pussy, at least do it for them. 1673 01:12:00,586 --> 01:12:04,758 I realized I'm never doing this again. 1674 01:12:04,862 --> 01:12:08,172 [microphone feedback] 1675 01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:10,448 When I heard the news that he, like, overdosed, 1676 01:12:10,551 --> 01:12:13,710 I was like, fuck. Like, damn. 1677 01:12:13,793 --> 01:12:15,965 Like, he could have actually... 1678 01:12:16,068 --> 01:12:18,434 he could have really died. 1679 01:12:18,517 --> 01:12:20,137 For me with celebrities, it almost feels 1680 01:12:20,241 --> 01:12:21,606 like they are untouchable. 1681 01:12:21,689 --> 01:12:23,089 So whenever you hear that a celebrity 1682 01:12:23,172 --> 01:12:24,482 died or almost died, 1683 01:12:24,586 --> 01:12:26,827 it's always like... it hits you differently 1684 01:12:26,965 --> 01:12:30,448 from, like, uh, like a normal person. 1685 01:12:30,551 --> 01:12:32,089 I was just in shock. 1686 01:12:32,172 --> 01:12:34,310 So I made a point, I'm playing Eminem 1687 01:12:34,413 --> 01:12:35,655 every single day 1688 01:12:35,758 --> 01:12:37,399 until he gets out and until he gets better, 1689 01:12:37,482 --> 01:12:39,517 until... until he comes back to his rap. 1690 01:12:39,655 --> 01:12:41,744 And that's what I did, every single song 1691 01:12:41,827 --> 01:12:44,882 over and over on replay. 1692 01:12:44,965 --> 01:12:46,448 While I was sitting in detox, 1693 01:12:46,551 --> 01:12:47,655 I didn't know exactly 1694 01:12:47,758 --> 01:12:50,606 what I was going to do with my career. 1695 01:12:50,689 --> 01:12:52,089 At that time, I was just thinking, 1696 01:12:52,172 --> 01:12:53,103 like, this can't be it. 1697 01:12:53,206 --> 01:12:54,296 Like, in the back of my mind, of course, 1698 01:12:54,379 --> 01:12:55,606 I'm scared that it is. 1699 01:12:55,689 --> 01:12:58,000 No new music, no new tours, no new interviews, 1700 01:12:58,137 --> 01:12:59,917 no new jokes, whatever the case is. 1701 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:01,641 It's just, he'd be gone. 1702 01:13:01,724 --> 01:13:06,034 To me, it was like, Eminem, I know it's hard, 1703 01:13:06,137 --> 01:13:10,551 but one day you are coming back. 1704 01:13:10,655 --> 01:13:12,689 I had to relearn how to walk, talk, 1705 01:13:12,793 --> 01:13:14,123 and, for the most part, 1706 01:13:14,206 --> 01:13:16,551 had to relearn how to rap again. 1707 01:13:16,655 --> 01:13:19,641 My writing had gotten terrible. 1708 01:13:19,724 --> 01:13:22,413 What did it feel like when it started to work again? 1709 01:13:22,517 --> 01:13:25,103 Um, when I started to get it back, 1710 01:13:25,206 --> 01:13:28,758 it was exciting because I felt it. 1711 01:13:28,862 --> 01:13:32,158 It would be in conversations, just having conversations 1712 01:13:32,241 --> 01:13:34,123 with people or the TV. 1713 01:13:34,206 --> 01:13:36,724 Like, every... every phrase that someone said on TV, 1714 01:13:36,862 --> 01:13:39,586 oh, you said the word "the." 1715 01:13:39,689 --> 01:13:41,655 Duh, uh. 1716 01:13:41,758 --> 01:13:43,517 It was hitting me really fast, 1717 01:13:43,620 --> 01:13:46,068 and I was writing songs really quickly. 1718 01:13:46,206 --> 01:13:47,551 What... what's going on? 1719 01:13:47,689 --> 01:13:48,862 [cheering] 1720 01:13:48,965 --> 01:13:50,468 What are you guys doing? 1721 01:13:50,551 --> 01:13:52,744 Do you mind if I come out and maybe join you or something? 1722 01:13:52,827 --> 01:13:54,296 You wanna come out? Come on, baby. 1723 01:13:54,379 --> 01:13:56,724 -Eminem! -Get over here. 1724 01:13:56,827 --> 01:13:58,724 When he first announced "Relapse," 1725 01:13:58,862 --> 01:14:00,379 it felt like Christmas to me. 1726 01:14:00,482 --> 01:14:03,000 Because when an album comes out, 1727 01:14:03,103 --> 01:14:06,227 I listen to an album front to back, 1728 01:14:06,310 --> 01:14:07,655 and then back to front, 1729 01:14:07,793 --> 01:14:12,241 and then to the end again, for months at a time. 1730 01:14:12,344 --> 01:14:16,020 So listening to "Relapse" was amazing to me, 1731 01:14:16,103 --> 01:14:17,413 just to hear that he's back. 1732 01:14:17,517 --> 01:14:20,448 I was just so, so ecstatic, so proud, and so happy 1733 01:14:20,551 --> 01:14:21,671 that I could hear him again. 1734 01:14:21,758 --> 01:14:23,227 Number one, you look good. 1735 01:14:23,310 --> 01:14:25,448 Number two, you're number one right now, 1736 01:14:25,586 --> 01:14:26,710 as far as your album's concerned, 1737 01:14:26,793 --> 01:14:27,985 and number three, you're number one 1738 01:14:28,068 --> 01:14:29,310 in the UK as well. 1739 01:14:29,448 --> 01:14:30,758 So congratulations. 1740 01:14:30,862 --> 01:14:32,758 -How does it feel? -Yeah, thank you. 1741 01:14:32,862 --> 01:14:34,020 It feels great. I mean, I'm just, 1742 01:14:34,103 --> 01:14:35,448 you know, I'm glad to be back. 1743 01:14:35,586 --> 01:14:36,675 [cheers and applause] 1744 01:14:36,758 --> 01:14:38,551 Guess who? 1745 01:14:38,655 --> 01:14:39,882 You miss me? 1746 01:14:39,965 --> 01:14:42,103 Jessica Simpson, sing the chorus. 1747 01:14:42,206 --> 01:14:43,848 ♪ When you walked through the door ♪ 1748 01:14:43,931 --> 01:14:45,586 ♪ It was clear to me ♪ 1749 01:14:45,689 --> 01:14:46,689 ♪ Clear to me ♪ 1750 01:14:46,793 --> 01:14:47,813 ♪ You're the one they adore ♪ 1751 01:14:47,896 --> 01:14:49,620 ♪ Who they came to see ♪ 1752 01:14:49,724 --> 01:14:50,758 ♪ Who they came to see ♪ 1753 01:14:50,862 --> 01:14:52,310 ♪ You're a rock star ♪ 1754 01:14:52,413 --> 01:14:53,344 You know what I love about your work, 1755 01:14:53,448 --> 01:14:54,572 and I'm sure many people do, 1756 01:14:54,655 --> 01:14:56,448 is there's a sense of humor. It's funny. 1757 01:14:56,551 --> 01:14:58,965 Uh, you diss some people in the new single. 1758 01:14:59,068 --> 01:15:00,572 -Some. -Yeah. 1759 01:15:00,655 --> 01:15:01,517 [laughter] 1760 01:15:01,655 --> 01:15:02,896 ♪ Back by popular demand ♪ 1761 01:15:03,034 --> 01:15:05,482 ♪ Now pop a little Zantac for antacid if you can ♪ 1762 01:15:05,586 --> 01:15:09,000 As wickedly shrewd and sharp as he is lyrically 1763 01:15:09,103 --> 01:15:11,123 with these scathing disses of other people, 1764 01:15:11,206 --> 01:15:14,034 he was equally on his own case, 1765 01:15:14,137 --> 01:15:16,896 equally making fun of himself. 1766 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,344 And all of that makes you endearing to people. 1767 01:15:19,448 --> 01:15:22,917 ♪ ♪ 1768 01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,641 His disses were always funny, 1769 01:15:24,724 --> 01:15:26,517 and he did something with his voice. 1770 01:15:26,620 --> 01:15:27,675 Different character, right? 1771 01:15:27,758 --> 01:15:29,517 Flowing pretty damn cool, though. 1772 01:15:29,655 --> 01:15:33,137 The whole, like, weird accent thing that he did on it 1773 01:15:33,241 --> 01:15:34,434 kind of threw me off. 1774 01:15:34,517 --> 01:15:36,158 Then when I listened to it more, 1775 01:15:36,241 --> 01:15:39,206 I'm like, damn, I was missing out on, like, some good shit. 1776 01:15:39,310 --> 01:15:41,206 ♪ ♪ 1777 01:15:41,344 --> 01:15:44,068 [electricity crackling] 1778 01:15:46,103 --> 01:15:49,551 The response that I got from "Relapse" was lukewarm. 1779 01:15:49,655 --> 01:15:52,951 That hurt a little bit, but it also turned the lights on. 1780 01:15:53,034 --> 01:15:56,034 Like, you got to do something different. 1781 01:15:56,172 --> 01:15:58,827 Why don't you try embracing sobriety? 1782 01:15:58,931 --> 01:16:02,482 [soft music] 1783 01:16:03,827 --> 01:16:09,103 I realized, like, I'm not embarrassed anymore about it. 1784 01:16:09,206 --> 01:16:12,482 And I started treating sobriety like a superpower, 1785 01:16:12,586 --> 01:16:16,241 and I took pride in the fact that I was able to quit. 1786 01:16:16,344 --> 01:16:18,413 ♪ ♪ 1787 01:16:18,517 --> 01:16:20,848 "Recovery" was a breath of fresh air for him. 1788 01:16:20,931 --> 01:16:22,586 I think it really sounded like someone 1789 01:16:22,724 --> 01:16:29,137 who was reclaiming his own life and his own narrative. 1790 01:16:29,241 --> 01:16:31,227 ♪ ♪ 1791 01:16:31,310 --> 01:16:33,620 Getting sober and going through what he went through 1792 01:16:33,724 --> 01:16:36,572 made him a totally different person and artist. 1793 01:16:36,655 --> 01:16:39,192 He just used different flows and different cadences 1794 01:16:39,275 --> 01:16:41,054 and ways of rapping on tunes. 1795 01:16:41,137 --> 01:16:44,793 So for me as a fan, it was like becoming 1796 01:16:44,896 --> 01:16:47,448 a fan of a totally new artist. 1797 01:16:47,551 --> 01:16:51,068 ♪ ♪ 1798 01:17:03,379 --> 01:17:05,379 I was there in the front. 1799 01:17:05,482 --> 01:17:07,123 Everybody here tonight who is an Eminem fan, 1800 01:17:07,206 --> 01:17:09,123 man, I just want to say 1801 01:17:09,206 --> 01:17:12,089 thank you for the support, man, 1802 01:17:12,172 --> 01:17:15,000 and not giving up on me, man. 1803 01:17:15,103 --> 01:17:18,448 I love y'all and I couldn't have did it without you, 1804 01:17:18,551 --> 01:17:21,123 so this song is for you. 1805 01:17:21,206 --> 01:17:23,379 [Eminem's "Not Afraid"] 1806 01:17:23,517 --> 01:17:25,655 - ♪ I'm not afraid - Sing it, y'all. 1807 01:17:25,758 --> 01:17:28,296 - ♪ To take a stand - Get this business right. 1808 01:17:28,379 --> 01:17:30,917 - ♪ Everybody - I guess I had to... 1809 01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:32,344 ♪ Come take my hand ♪ 1810 01:17:32,448 --> 01:17:34,296 -Go to that place... -♪ On this road together ♪ 1811 01:17:34,379 --> 01:17:36,379 To get to this one. 1812 01:17:36,482 --> 01:17:40,089 And some of you might still be in that place, 1813 01:17:40,172 --> 01:17:41,261 ♪ Let you know, you're not alone ♪ 1814 01:17:41,344 --> 01:17:42,862 Trying to get out. 1815 01:17:42,965 --> 01:17:44,206 ♪ Holla if you feel that ♪ 1816 01:17:44,344 --> 01:17:45,965 ♪ You've been down the same road ♪ 1817 01:17:46,068 --> 01:17:47,434 ♪ Read my lyrics off of this paper ♪ 1818 01:17:47,517 --> 01:17:48,827 ♪ Before I lay 'em ♪ 1819 01:17:48,931 --> 01:17:50,330 ♪ But you won't take the sting out these words ♪ 1820 01:17:50,413 --> 01:17:51,482 ♪ Before I say 'em ♪ 1821 01:17:51,586 --> 01:17:52,813 ♪ 'Cause ain't no way I'ma let you ♪ 1822 01:17:52,896 --> 01:17:54,089 ♪ Stop me from causing mayhem ♪ 1823 01:17:54,172 --> 01:17:55,951 ♪ When I say I'ma do something, I do it ♪ 1824 01:17:56,034 --> 01:17:57,503 ♪ I don't give a damn what you think ♪ 1825 01:17:57,586 --> 01:17:58,965 ♪ I'm doing this for me ♪ 1826 01:17:59,068 --> 01:18:00,365 ♪ So fuck the world, feed it beans ♪ 1827 01:18:00,448 --> 01:18:02,413 ♪ It's gassed up if it thinks it's stopping me ♪ 1828 01:18:02,517 --> 01:18:04,241 ♪ I'ma be what I set out to be ♪ 1829 01:18:04,344 --> 01:18:08,206 That album helped rectify a lot of things in my life. 1830 01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:10,275 Talking about going through losing his friend, 1831 01:18:10,413 --> 01:18:14,241 talking about the sleeping pill addiction. 1832 01:18:14,344 --> 01:18:16,365 I'm just like Marshall. 1833 01:18:16,448 --> 01:18:19,068 There's times when, in a 48-hour period, 1834 01:18:19,206 --> 01:18:22,503 I'd blow through 30 to 45 Ambien, like it was nothing. 1835 01:18:22,586 --> 01:18:24,985 ♪ Like a fuck you for Christmas ♪ 1836 01:18:25,068 --> 01:18:27,103 Watching how he's gotten sober, 1837 01:18:27,206 --> 01:18:30,020 I didn't feel the need to numb myself anymore. 1838 01:18:30,103 --> 01:18:32,330 ♪ I'm not afraid, I'm not afraid ♪ 1839 01:18:32,413 --> 01:18:35,330 ♪ To take a stand, to take a stand ♪ 1840 01:18:35,413 --> 01:18:38,793 I'm sitting down at home one day, 1841 01:18:38,931 --> 01:18:42,503 and I'm just drinking, and I pop the pill, 1842 01:18:42,586 --> 01:18:44,710 and "Not Afraid" came on. 1843 01:18:44,793 --> 01:18:47,896 I took it like he was speaking to me. 1844 01:18:48,034 --> 01:18:49,586 And that moment, that day, 1845 01:18:49,724 --> 01:18:52,068 that night gave me that push to say, 1846 01:18:52,206 --> 01:18:54,503 I'm done. 1847 01:18:54,586 --> 01:18:56,068 I have a wife now. I have a kid. 1848 01:18:56,172 --> 01:18:57,503 I have responsibilities. 1849 01:18:57,586 --> 01:18:59,537 I can't... I have to stop this. 1850 01:18:59,620 --> 01:19:01,965 So if I didn't act on it in that moment, 1851 01:19:02,068 --> 01:19:04,793 I would have been screwed. 1852 01:19:04,896 --> 01:19:07,344 He was by my side, helping me 1853 01:19:07,448 --> 01:19:10,551 so I could be completely clean and clear out my head 1854 01:19:10,689 --> 01:19:12,586 and start doing something with my life. 1855 01:19:12,689 --> 01:19:14,641 ♪ Put my life back together right now ♪ 1856 01:19:14,724 --> 01:19:16,620 ♪ It was my decision to get clean ♪ 1857 01:19:16,724 --> 01:19:18,068 ♪ I did it for me ♪ 1858 01:19:18,172 --> 01:19:20,862 ♪ Admittedly, I probably did it subliminally for you ♪ 1859 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:22,793 ♪ So I could come back a brand-new me ♪ 1860 01:19:22,896 --> 01:19:24,020 ♪ You helped see me through ♪ 1861 01:19:24,103 --> 01:19:25,399 ♪ And don't even realize what you did ♪ 1862 01:19:25,482 --> 01:19:26,655 ♪ 'Cause believe me, you ♪ 1863 01:19:26,793 --> 01:19:28,073 ♪ I've been through the wringer ♪ 1864 01:19:28,172 --> 01:19:29,882 ♪ But they can do little to the middle finger ♪ 1865 01:19:29,965 --> 01:19:31,482 ♪ I think I got a tear in my eye ♪ 1866 01:19:31,586 --> 01:19:33,123 ♪ I feel like the king of my world ♪ 1867 01:19:33,206 --> 01:19:35,241 ♪ Haters can make like bees with no stingers ♪ 1868 01:19:35,344 --> 01:19:36,296 ♪ And drop dead ♪ 1869 01:19:36,379 --> 01:19:37,482 ♪ No more beef lingers ♪ 1870 01:19:37,586 --> 01:19:39,123 ♪ No more drama from now on ♪ 1871 01:19:39,206 --> 01:19:41,655 ♪ I promise to focus only on handling my responsibilities ♪ 1872 01:19:41,758 --> 01:19:43,000 ♪ As a father ♪ 1873 01:19:43,103 --> 01:19:44,744 ♪ So I solemnly swear to always treat this roof ♪ 1874 01:19:44,827 --> 01:19:46,551 ♪ Like my daughters and raise it ♪ 1875 01:19:46,655 --> 01:19:48,517 ♪ You couldn't lift a single shingle on it ♪ 1876 01:19:48,655 --> 01:19:50,344 ♪ 'Cause the way I feel I'm strong enough ♪ 1877 01:19:50,448 --> 01:19:52,123 ♪ To go to the club or the corner bar ♪ 1878 01:19:52,206 --> 01:19:53,965 ♪ And lift the whole liquor counter up ♪ 1879 01:19:54,068 --> 01:19:55,379 ♪ 'Cause I'm raising the bar ♪ 1880 01:19:55,482 --> 01:19:56,606 ♪ I'd shoot for the moon ♪ 1881 01:19:56,689 --> 01:19:57,917 ♪ But I'm too busy gazing at stars ♪ 1882 01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,344 ♪ I feel amazing, and ♪ 1883 01:19:59,448 --> 01:20:01,724 ♪ I'm not afraid, I'm not afraid ♪ 1884 01:20:01,827 --> 01:20:04,655 ♪ To take a stand, to take a stand ♪ 1885 01:20:04,758 --> 01:20:07,261 ♪ Everybody, everybody ♪ 1886 01:20:07,344 --> 01:20:09,551 ♪ Come take my hand, come take my hand ♪ 1887 01:20:09,655 --> 01:20:13,123 ♪ We'll walk this road together through the storm ♪ 1888 01:20:13,206 --> 01:20:15,482 ♪ Whatever the weather, cold or warm ♪ 1889 01:20:15,586 --> 01:20:18,606 ♪ Just letting you know that you're not alone ♪ 1890 01:20:18,689 --> 01:20:21,379 ♪ Holla if you feel like you've ♪ 1891 01:20:21,517 --> 01:20:25,172 ♪ Been down the same road ♪ 1892 01:20:25,275 --> 01:20:27,413 When I was young, I was really using music, 1893 01:20:27,517 --> 01:20:30,917 and often times Eminem's music, to self-medicate 1894 01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,172 for my generalized anxiety disorder. 1895 01:20:33,275 --> 01:20:35,468 Just kind of having a hard time with life 1896 01:20:35,551 --> 01:20:37,054 and just processing different emotions, 1897 01:20:37,137 --> 01:20:40,793 from being bullied at school or wanting to date girls 1898 01:20:40,896 --> 01:20:42,379 and being rejected. 1899 01:20:42,517 --> 01:20:44,798 Like, you know, all the things that come with adolescence. 1900 01:20:45,724 --> 01:20:47,758 As I got older, I started at UNC and 1901 01:20:47,862 --> 01:20:50,206 led a team of researchers, and we analyzed 1902 01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:53,206 rap lyrics from 1998 to 2018. 1903 01:20:53,310 --> 01:20:58,172 We saw mental health references go from 8% to 44%. 1904 01:20:58,310 --> 01:21:00,310 Our findings were a reflection 1905 01:21:00,413 --> 01:21:01,896 of society changing, 1906 01:21:02,034 --> 01:21:04,379 and there were certain artists early on, 1907 01:21:04,517 --> 01:21:06,068 Eminem among them, 1908 01:21:06,206 --> 01:21:09,758 who really kind of normalized it 1909 01:21:09,862 --> 01:21:12,192 and made it OK to talk about these difficult feelings 1910 01:21:12,275 --> 01:21:13,448 and emotions. 1911 01:21:13,551 --> 01:21:14,882 [Eminem's "Walk On Water"] 1912 01:21:14,965 --> 01:21:17,103 There's so much strength in vulnerability, 1913 01:21:17,206 --> 01:21:19,985 and that is such a powerful thing. 1914 01:21:20,068 --> 01:21:24,448 That's one of the reasons for Eminem's success. 1915 01:21:24,551 --> 01:21:26,241 When he's really vulnerable, 1916 01:21:26,344 --> 01:21:29,365 and he takes you there, when he's talking about himself, 1917 01:21:29,448 --> 01:21:31,537 and the downsides of himself, 1918 01:21:31,620 --> 01:21:34,206 those are the things that I gravitate to 1919 01:21:34,310 --> 01:21:36,034 more so than anything. 1920 01:21:37,275 --> 01:21:39,793 ♪ I'm a Rubik's, a beautiful mess ♪ 1921 01:21:39,896 --> 01:21:41,034 ♪ At times juvenile, yes ♪ 1922 01:21:41,137 --> 01:21:43,448 ♪ I goof and I jest ♪ 1923 01:21:43,551 --> 01:21:45,020 ♪ A flawed human, I guess ♪ 1924 01:21:45,103 --> 01:21:46,985 ♪ But I'm doing my best to not ruin ♪ 1925 01:21:47,068 --> 01:21:48,655 ♪ Your expectations and meet 'em ♪ 1926 01:21:48,758 --> 01:21:50,192 ♪ But first the "Speedom" verse ♪ 1927 01:21:50,275 --> 01:21:51,896 ♪ Now, Big Sean, he's going too fast ♪ 1928 01:21:52,034 --> 01:21:54,103 ♪ Is he gonna shout or curse out his mom ♪ 1929 01:21:54,241 --> 01:21:56,551 ♪ There was a time I had the world by the balls ♪ 1930 01:21:56,655 --> 01:21:58,068 ♪ Eating out my palm ♪ 1931 01:21:58,172 --> 01:22:01,172 ♪ Every album song I was spazzing the fuck out on ♪ 1932 01:22:01,275 --> 01:22:02,951 ♪ And now I'm getting clowned and frowned on ♪ 1933 01:22:03,034 --> 01:22:05,172 ♪ But the only one who's looking down on me ♪ 1934 01:22:05,310 --> 01:22:07,089 ♪ That matters now's Deshaun ♪ 1935 01:22:07,172 --> 01:22:09,275 ♪ Am I lucky to be around this long ♪ 1936 01:22:09,379 --> 01:22:11,034 Eminem was one of 1937 01:22:11,137 --> 01:22:14,089 the most important people in this trend. 1938 01:22:14,172 --> 01:22:16,689 He made it more acceptable for other artists 1939 01:22:16,827 --> 01:22:19,137 to really talk about these complex emotions. 1940 01:22:19,275 --> 01:22:26,310 1941 01:23:13,103 --> 01:23:18,413 I really felt like those lyrics were written for me. 1942 01:23:18,517 --> 01:23:20,586 It's extremely therapeutic, 1943 01:23:20,689 --> 01:23:24,068 and I don't take that for granted. 1944 01:23:24,172 --> 01:23:27,000 He really has gone through so much and struggled, 1945 01:23:27,103 --> 01:23:29,896 and I felt connected to him in a way 1946 01:23:30,034 --> 01:23:34,206 that I ended up changing my legal name to Marshall. 1947 01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:36,379 It's kind of a reminder to not feel like I have to 1948 01:23:36,482 --> 01:23:39,620 apologize for who I am. 1949 01:23:41,620 --> 01:23:44,896 [soft music] 1950 01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:52,000 ♪ ♪ 1951 01:24:25,931 --> 01:24:28,365 I originally wrote this letter to Eminem 1952 01:24:28,448 --> 01:24:30,413 three months ago, but I never sent it. 1953 01:24:35,275 --> 01:24:38,448 "Dear Eminem, I'm not sure you're going 1954 01:24:38,551 --> 01:24:40,137 "to get this or even read it. 1955 01:24:40,275 --> 01:24:42,192 "I'm just going to write down how I feel about everything, 1956 01:24:42,275 --> 01:24:44,448 "because, honestly, you're one of the only people that 1957 01:24:44,551 --> 01:24:46,758 "are helping me get through this, even if I'm just 1958 01:24:46,896 --> 01:24:48,399 "a random 14-year-old girl 1959 01:24:48,482 --> 01:24:50,572 "probably having one of those mood swings. 1960 01:24:50,655 --> 01:24:52,965 "Don't worry, I won't end up like your song 'Stan, ' 1961 01:24:53,068 --> 01:24:54,758 "even though it's one of my favorites. 1962 01:24:54,862 --> 01:24:57,020 "But it will never beat 'Mockingbird.' 1963 01:24:57,103 --> 01:24:59,137 "That fucking song saved my life. 1964 01:24:59,241 --> 01:25:01,123 "My parents are constantly fighting about stuff 1965 01:25:01,206 --> 01:25:02,655 "that don't even matter. 1966 01:25:02,758 --> 01:25:05,620 "And it gets annoying, because when I say something about it, 1967 01:25:05,724 --> 01:25:07,123 "I get blamed for it. 1968 01:25:07,206 --> 01:25:11,034 "And the only one that I feel cares about me 1969 01:25:11,172 --> 01:25:13,344 "is my brother, because he was the one 1970 01:25:13,448 --> 01:25:15,793 "that had me listening to you ever since I was born. 1971 01:25:15,896 --> 01:25:17,779 "He's in his 20s, and I love him a lot, 1972 01:25:17,862 --> 01:25:21,000 and I wish my parents..." [laughs] 1973 01:25:21,137 --> 01:25:22,551 "Loved me as much as he did. 1974 01:25:22,655 --> 01:25:24,827 "I thought about how much you care about Hailie 1975 01:25:24,965 --> 01:25:26,261 "and just wish they cared about me 1976 01:25:26,344 --> 01:25:27,813 "as much as you did with her. 1977 01:25:27,896 --> 01:25:30,054 "It's crazy that your songs and even your silly interviews 1978 01:25:30,137 --> 01:25:32,123 "make me feel happier than my family ever did. 1979 01:25:32,206 --> 01:25:34,034 "I know I'm just another Eminem fan who 1980 01:25:34,137 --> 01:25:36,379 "has a sad backstory or some other shit like that, 1981 01:25:36,517 --> 01:25:37,793 "but you're such a cool guy. 1982 01:25:37,896 --> 01:25:40,551 "I admire you, and if my parents did, 1983 01:25:40,655 --> 01:25:42,572 "maybe they'd be an even better parent like you are. 1984 01:25:42,655 --> 01:25:44,827 Hope you get this, Kripa." 1985 01:25:44,931 --> 01:25:46,344 [laughs] 1986 01:25:46,448 --> 01:25:48,434 Why do you think you chose him as an outlet 1987 01:25:48,517 --> 01:25:50,724 for your tough feelings? 1988 01:25:50,827 --> 01:25:52,137 Um, sorry, wait. 1989 01:25:52,241 --> 01:25:54,482 [laughs] 1990 01:25:54,620 --> 01:25:57,724 Um, probably because, like, 1991 01:25:57,827 --> 01:26:00,896 he's had a really tough childhood too, so I feel like, 1992 01:26:01,034 --> 01:26:02,931 um, he would relate a little bit. 1993 01:26:03,034 --> 01:26:08,813 Taking my feelings out with, like, writing something... 1994 01:26:08,896 --> 01:26:10,158 sorry. 1995 01:26:10,241 --> 01:26:16,551 Um, I feel like it, like, makes me feel better. 1996 01:26:16,689 --> 01:26:19,551 [somber music] 1997 01:26:19,655 --> 01:26:22,551 [crying] 1998 01:26:22,655 --> 01:26:25,551 ♪ ♪ 1999 01:26:25,655 --> 01:26:28,413 I feel like it makes me feel better 2000 01:26:28,517 --> 01:26:30,586 'cause there's also other people out there 2001 01:26:30,689 --> 01:26:32,192 going through the same thing. 2002 01:26:32,275 --> 01:26:36,813 And so if they see what I'm going through 2003 01:26:36,896 --> 01:26:38,758 and what, like, Eminem went through, 2004 01:26:38,896 --> 01:26:40,675 maybe they'll know that a lot of people 2005 01:26:40,758 --> 01:26:42,241 also go through the same things 2006 01:26:42,379 --> 01:26:46,068 that, like, other people do. 2007 01:26:47,931 --> 01:26:50,586 A big part of my tattoos have been about 2008 01:26:50,689 --> 01:26:54,413 facing up to my mental health. 2009 01:26:54,551 --> 01:26:57,192 A lot of people really didn't like my world record. 2010 01:26:57,275 --> 01:26:58,641 What a stupid record. 2011 01:26:58,724 --> 01:27:00,551 It's ridiculous. 2012 01:27:00,655 --> 01:27:05,000 It can hurt when... when people say horrible things. 2013 01:27:05,137 --> 01:27:06,813 I've been told that I need to be locked up, 2014 01:27:06,896 --> 01:27:08,793 I should be in a mental place. 2015 01:27:08,931 --> 01:27:12,620 [phone chiming] 2016 01:27:12,724 --> 01:27:14,710 Although I read the negative things, 2017 01:27:14,793 --> 01:27:16,275 and it's hurtful, 2018 01:27:16,379 --> 01:27:19,261 it would never change the fact that 2019 01:27:19,344 --> 01:27:22,261 I've continued to get the tattoos. 2020 01:27:22,344 --> 01:27:25,227 Do you have a favorite Eminem song? 2021 01:27:25,310 --> 01:27:27,689 I usually say "Not Afraid." 2022 01:27:27,827 --> 01:27:30,482 There are a lot of positives, too, 2023 01:27:30,586 --> 01:27:33,310 because my Instagram has brought a lot of other fans 2024 01:27:33,413 --> 01:27:36,758 who really relate to me in a lot of ways. 2025 01:27:36,862 --> 01:27:38,793 And I met my husband. 2026 01:27:38,896 --> 01:27:40,310 [phone chimes] 2027 01:27:42,689 --> 01:27:45,000 He's a really big Eminem fan as well, 2028 01:27:45,103 --> 01:27:48,137 and he reached out to me. 2029 01:27:48,241 --> 01:27:50,882 It's really nice to have somebody that 2030 01:27:50,965 --> 01:27:53,227 gets the whole Eminem thing. 2031 01:27:53,310 --> 01:27:55,744 I get these impulsive thoughts in my head. 2032 01:27:55,827 --> 01:27:58,965 I was like, we should get married in Detroit. 2033 01:27:59,068 --> 01:28:00,951 We got married at St. Andrew's Hall, 2034 01:28:01,034 --> 01:28:04,517 which is one of the first places that Eminem performed. 2035 01:28:04,620 --> 01:28:08,862 And now we've got a son. 2036 01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:10,275 Without Eminem, 2037 01:28:10,379 --> 01:28:13,517 I wouldn't have the life I have right now. 2038 01:28:13,655 --> 01:28:16,724 [soft music] 2039 01:28:21,655 --> 01:28:22,862 [doorbell jingles] 2040 01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,724 [upbeat music] 2041 01:28:24,827 --> 01:28:29,068 What do you think is meant by "The Death of Slim Shady"? 2042 01:28:29,206 --> 01:28:30,172 Who knows how he means it? 2043 01:28:30,275 --> 01:28:31,206 He's a satirist. 2044 01:28:31,344 --> 01:28:32,586 He could be, like, 2045 01:28:32,724 --> 01:28:34,413 saying let's cancel Slim Shady. 2046 01:28:34,551 --> 01:28:38,296 Which is kind of funny to even think about. 2047 01:28:38,379 --> 01:28:42,206 [laughs] Slim Shady can't be canceled. 2048 01:28:42,310 --> 01:28:45,586 "The Death of Slim Shady" is a concept album, 2049 01:28:45,724 --> 01:28:47,296 so you gotta listen from start to finish, 2050 01:28:47,379 --> 01:28:50,123 um, and it's about Slim Shady, his character 2051 01:28:50,206 --> 01:28:54,468 that he started 25 years ago, and how his character 2052 01:28:54,551 --> 01:28:55,985 would be in this age. 2053 01:28:56,068 --> 01:28:59,158 ♪ Sometimes I wonder what the old me'd say ♪ 2054 01:28:59,241 --> 01:29:00,620 ♪ If what ♪ 2055 01:29:00,724 --> 01:29:03,448 ♪ If he could see the way shit is today ♪ 2056 01:29:03,551 --> 01:29:06,365 ♪ He'd probably say that everything is gay ♪ 2057 01:29:06,448 --> 01:29:07,448 ♪ Like happy ♪ 2058 01:29:07,551 --> 01:29:09,551 ♪ What's my name, what's my name ♪ 2059 01:29:09,655 --> 01:29:11,537 ♪ Chicka Slim Shady ♪ 2060 01:29:11,620 --> 01:29:13,965 [explosion] 2061 01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:21,655 This album is about, I'm not holding back. 2062 01:29:21,793 --> 01:29:24,192 I'm gonna do everything I can to get canceled. 2063 01:29:24,275 --> 01:29:26,020 ♪ If I think that shit, I'ma say that shit ♪ 2064 01:29:26,103 --> 01:29:27,882 ♪ Cancel me, what, OK, that's it ♪ 2065 01:29:27,965 --> 01:29:29,241 ♪ Go ahead, Paul, quit ♪ 2066 01:29:29,344 --> 01:29:30,951 I'm not sure people actually understand now 2067 01:29:31,034 --> 01:29:32,275 that Slim Shady is a character. 2068 01:29:32,379 --> 01:29:34,365 I feel like the new album just offended more people, 2069 01:29:34,448 --> 01:29:37,068 but I think that that was kind of the intention. 2070 01:29:37,172 --> 01:29:38,882 The world is in a very different place 2071 01:29:38,965 --> 01:29:41,620 to where it was in 1999. 2072 01:29:41,758 --> 01:29:43,448 Gen Z wants to cancel him. 2073 01:29:43,551 --> 01:29:45,020 Nobody can cancel Eminem. 2074 01:29:45,103 --> 01:29:46,241 Jesus Christ himself 2075 01:29:46,344 --> 01:29:48,758 will have to come down and cancel Eminem, 2076 01:29:48,862 --> 01:29:50,241 and he ain't coming down either. 2077 01:29:50,344 --> 01:29:54,482 As his fan base, we all grew into this whole family, 2078 01:29:54,620 --> 01:29:56,227 and we're going to protect this man 2079 01:29:56,310 --> 01:29:58,192 by any means necessary. 2080 01:29:58,275 --> 01:30:00,275 Going online and seeing people 2081 01:30:00,379 --> 01:30:02,103 trying to cancel Eminem, 2082 01:30:02,241 --> 01:30:03,586 that is soft, 2083 01:30:03,689 --> 01:30:06,103 and fuck you if you don't like it. 2084 01:30:06,206 --> 01:30:08,537 Throw up a middle finger and let it linger. 2085 01:30:08,620 --> 01:30:11,241 I don't give a fuck, mostly. 2086 01:30:11,344 --> 01:30:12,503 Calm down, Slim. 2087 01:30:12,586 --> 01:30:14,344 We both made Eminem. 2088 01:30:14,448 --> 01:30:16,241 He's the best of both of us. 2089 01:30:16,344 --> 01:30:18,517 And, really, it's not about me or you. 2090 01:30:18,620 --> 01:30:21,241 It's about him and the fans. 2091 01:30:21,344 --> 01:30:23,172 Damn. 2092 01:30:23,275 --> 01:30:25,620 I don't even want to fucking admit it, 2093 01:30:25,724 --> 01:30:28,089 but your bitch ass is right. 2094 01:30:28,172 --> 01:30:29,551 I'm embarrassed. 2095 01:30:29,655 --> 01:30:31,655 When I'm in Paris, I'm embarrassed 2096 01:30:31,758 --> 01:30:33,724 of my parents' parrot. 2097 01:30:42,517 --> 01:30:45,054 I'm sure 200%, 1,000%. 2098 01:30:45,137 --> 01:30:46,827 [indistinct chatter] 2099 01:30:46,965 --> 01:30:49,482 Everyone, no matter how old or young, 2100 01:30:49,586 --> 01:30:51,089 will appreciate Eminem's music. 2101 01:30:51,172 --> 01:30:54,537 ♪ A-B-C-D, A-B-C-D ♪ 2102 01:30:54,620 --> 01:30:56,931 ♪ E-F-G, E-F-G ♪ 2103 01:30:57,034 --> 01:30:59,448 ♪ H-I-J-K, H-I-J-K ♪ 2104 01:30:59,551 --> 01:31:01,813 People who have not been born yet 2105 01:31:01,896 --> 01:31:04,413 will follow his music, 2106 01:31:04,517 --> 01:31:05,827 reopen "The Slim Shady LP," 2107 01:31:05,931 --> 01:31:07,344 and love him from start to finish. 2108 01:31:07,448 --> 01:31:09,379 [bright music] 2109 01:31:09,517 --> 01:31:10,758 I'll be looking down proud, 2110 01:31:10,862 --> 01:31:13,330 like, yeah, damn straight, y'all. 2111 01:31:13,413 --> 01:31:14,862 You get that white tee on. 2112 01:31:14,965 --> 01:31:16,586 You get those baggy blue jeans. 2113 01:31:16,689 --> 01:31:18,206 For sure. Rock it. 2114 01:31:18,344 --> 01:31:21,517 A hundred years from now, in the catalogs of catalogs, 2115 01:31:21,620 --> 01:31:24,448 you'll be able to go back and listen to "Lose Yourself" 2116 01:31:24,551 --> 01:31:28,724 or "The Way I Am," and you'll know Eminem was that guy. 2117 01:31:28,862 --> 01:31:30,517 All great artists have the ability 2118 01:31:30,620 --> 01:31:32,206 to reinvent themselves. 2119 01:31:32,310 --> 01:31:34,586 And yet, I feel like every time a lot of artists 2120 01:31:34,689 --> 01:31:37,158 do that, they always sacrifice a little bit of something, 2121 01:31:37,241 --> 01:31:40,330 and Marshall's never sacrificed anything. 2122 01:31:40,413 --> 01:31:44,503 He's, like, remained true to the first day I met him. 2123 01:31:44,586 --> 01:31:46,517 I'm just happy I went after my dreams 2124 01:31:46,620 --> 01:31:49,172 'cause it inspired another kid to go after his dreams, 2125 01:31:49,275 --> 01:31:50,379 you know? 2126 01:31:50,517 --> 01:31:53,379 The fact that he had enough personal empathy 2127 01:31:53,517 --> 01:31:57,586 to write something where 2128 01:31:57,724 --> 01:32:01,310 the fans' feelings are being considered 2129 01:32:01,413 --> 01:32:03,586 tells you who he is, and for that, 2130 01:32:03,689 --> 01:32:05,620 I love and respect him. 2131 01:32:05,758 --> 01:32:07,917 It's a crazy thing when all of a sudden 2132 01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,227 you go from being someone no one cares about 2133 01:32:11,310 --> 01:32:14,172 to someone that a lot of people care about. 2134 01:32:14,275 --> 01:32:17,965 What he's done with his life is extraordinary. 2135 01:32:18,068 --> 01:32:22,413 He has grown to be a fantastic human being 2136 01:32:22,517 --> 01:32:26,655 that is really fucking dope at his craft. 2137 01:32:26,793 --> 01:32:30,586 He's an amazing father, and I can't wait to see 2138 01:32:30,689 --> 01:32:33,068 what he's going to turn out to be next. 2139 01:32:36,965 --> 01:32:40,413 Coming here, were you expecting to see Eminem? 2140 01:32:40,517 --> 01:32:42,827 Maybe. [laughs] 2141 01:32:42,931 --> 01:32:45,310 I don't... that would be really cool. 2142 01:32:45,413 --> 01:32:48,054 Half yes, half no. 2143 01:32:48,137 --> 01:32:49,758 Yes and no. 2144 01:32:49,896 --> 01:32:51,020 I didn't really expect it, 2145 01:32:51,103 --> 01:32:52,399 but I had thoughts about it, you know? 2146 01:32:52,482 --> 01:32:56,586 I was hoping that Eminem was going to be here. 2147 01:32:56,724 --> 01:32:57,965 He's a busy man. 2148 01:32:58,103 --> 01:32:59,330 He's got a song that he just dropped. 2149 01:32:59,413 --> 01:33:01,053 He's got an album that he's dropping soon. 2150 01:33:01,137 --> 01:33:02,606 I just wouldn't think he had the time. 2151 01:33:02,689 --> 01:33:04,123 Oh, my God, what would I even do? 2152 01:33:04,206 --> 01:33:05,123 What would I even say? 2153 01:33:05,206 --> 01:33:07,606 I would probably just throw up. 2154 01:33:07,689 --> 01:33:09,261 [laughs] I don't know. 2155 01:33:09,344 --> 01:33:11,779 If I ever met Eminem, I would probably die. 2156 01:33:11,862 --> 01:33:13,482 I don't even know, man. 2157 01:33:13,586 --> 01:33:15,103 I'd be speechless. 2158 01:33:17,103 --> 01:33:18,379 2013. 2159 01:33:18,517 --> 01:33:20,862 He was in Paris for his new album. 2160 01:33:26,103 --> 01:33:28,468 And the car, they're going. 2161 01:33:28,551 --> 01:33:32,206 And I was like, no, I'm not going to... 2162 01:33:32,310 --> 01:33:36,779 to see Marshall, and 15 seconds later, 2163 01:33:36,862 --> 01:33:38,827 the car stopped. 2164 01:33:42,137 --> 01:33:45,172 "Marshall want to see you." 2165 01:33:45,310 --> 01:33:49,379 And every fan who was there 2166 01:33:49,517 --> 01:33:52,123 turned their head on me. 2167 01:33:52,206 --> 01:33:54,724 He knew my name, so I was like, 2168 01:33:54,827 --> 01:33:57,620 holy shit, he knew my name. 2169 01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:17,068 The bodyguard was like, 2170 01:34:17,206 --> 01:34:20,655 OK, OK, OK, Zolt, you go in the car. 2171 01:34:45,413 --> 01:34:46,896 Man, thank you. 2172 01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:49,103 Thank you for your music, for everything. 2173 01:34:59,896 --> 01:35:02,227 When you're an artist like Marshall, 2174 01:35:02,310 --> 01:35:03,482 you don't have time. 2175 01:35:03,586 --> 01:35:06,068 You do not have time for anything. 2176 01:35:09,068 --> 01:35:10,482 [camera shutter clicks] 2177 01:35:15,827 --> 01:35:18,034 I think he probably was shocked 2178 01:35:18,137 --> 01:35:21,951 because nobody will tell him you have to go. 2179 01:35:22,034 --> 01:35:26,689 But, you know, I'm the guy who respect his time. 2180 01:35:44,241 --> 01:35:46,310 [engine rumbles] 2181 01:35:51,793 --> 01:35:58,862 ♪ ♪ 2182 01:36:12,758 --> 01:36:17,779 I think that people imagine Stans as being, 2183 01:36:17,862 --> 01:36:19,586 you know, violent and deranged. 2184 01:36:19,724 --> 01:36:23,724 But in reality, being a Stan and being a fan 2185 01:36:23,827 --> 01:36:27,655 can actually be a positive and beautiful thing. 2186 01:36:29,758 --> 01:36:32,206 I've lost a lot of people in my life, 2187 01:36:32,310 --> 01:36:35,206 but the one thing that has really gotten me through 2188 01:36:35,310 --> 01:36:37,779 all those losses has been Eminem. 2189 01:36:37,862 --> 01:36:39,724 Eminem has always been a constant 2190 01:36:39,827 --> 01:36:42,517 throughout my entire life, and for a long time, 2191 01:36:42,620 --> 01:36:44,123 I really felt unlucky 2192 01:36:44,206 --> 01:36:46,275 because I wasn't able to meet him. 2193 01:36:46,379 --> 01:36:47,985 It's like the carrot's right there, 2194 01:36:48,068 --> 01:36:50,896 but it's like I can't figure out how to get to it. 2195 01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:53,034 Now my mindset has changed, because I feel like 2196 01:36:53,137 --> 01:36:56,034 this documentary is a lot more personal 2197 01:36:56,137 --> 01:37:00,931 than it would be just me to Em saying, hi, huge fan, 2198 01:37:01,068 --> 01:37:02,482 take a picture. 2199 01:37:02,620 --> 01:37:05,310 Now he kind of can understand exactly how I've become a... 2200 01:37:05,413 --> 01:37:07,482 like, how I've been a fan for so long 2201 01:37:07,620 --> 01:37:11,103 and, like, similar kind of struggles, 2202 01:37:11,241 --> 01:37:12,744 I guess, we've been through, 2203 01:37:12,827 --> 01:37:16,310 and just how his music has truly influenced my life 2204 01:37:16,413 --> 01:37:21,275 and helped me through really, you know, traumatic times. 2205 01:37:21,413 --> 01:37:24,931 But a true die-hard fan really does, I think, 2206 01:37:25,034 --> 01:37:31,020 understand me and every aspect of me 2207 01:37:31,103 --> 01:37:35,172 and understands that I am just a regular person. 2208 01:37:35,275 --> 01:37:38,241 I'm just a fucking human being. 2209 01:37:40,241 --> 01:37:42,758 The reason they connect with me is because 2210 01:37:42,862 --> 01:37:45,344 they see some of themselves in me. 2211 01:37:48,793 --> 01:37:50,917 Maybe they were bullied as a kid. 2212 01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:54,275 Maybe the world fucking dealt them a raw deal. 2213 01:37:56,413 --> 01:37:59,655 But for every young person that gets older 2214 01:37:59,793 --> 01:38:03,862 and wants to pay the world back... 2215 01:38:03,965 --> 01:38:07,744 that's the person that connects with me the most, 2216 01:38:07,827 --> 01:38:09,689 because they understand me, 2217 01:38:09,827 --> 01:38:11,689 and I feel like I understand them, 2218 01:38:11,827 --> 01:38:15,606 and I get them because they're really me. 2219 01:38:15,689 --> 01:38:19,034 The fans that have grown with me from day one 2220 01:38:19,172 --> 01:38:22,089 till now, it's, like, unbelievable 2221 01:38:22,172 --> 01:38:23,606 that they're still with me, 2222 01:38:23,689 --> 01:38:25,344 and I'm very blessed to this day 2223 01:38:25,482 --> 01:38:28,965 to still have people that ride for me like that. 2224 01:38:29,068 --> 01:38:30,965 To my fans, thank you. 2225 01:38:31,068 --> 01:38:33,000 I love y'all, and I am... 2226 01:38:33,103 --> 01:38:35,793 I would not be here, if it was not for you. 2227 01:38:35,896 --> 01:38:40,000 So I owe you my life, 2228 01:38:40,103 --> 01:38:43,620 and that's who I do my music for is them, 2229 01:38:43,724 --> 01:38:45,572 and fuck everybody else. 2230 01:38:45,655 --> 01:38:49,344 Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em. 2231 01:38:49,482 --> 01:38:51,586 Eat a dick. 2232 01:38:51,689 --> 01:38:55,517 You don't like it, eat a fat dick. 2233 01:38:55,620 --> 01:38:58,261 [Dido's "Thank You"] 2234 01:38:58,344 --> 01:39:00,123 Hey, Em, it's Paul again. 2235 01:39:00,206 --> 01:39:04,689 I watched the movie, and we got to talk about the ending. 2236 01:39:04,793 --> 01:39:07,537 Give me a call back. 2237 01:39:07,620 --> 01:39:11,724 ♪ And I want to thank you ♪ 2238 01:39:11,827 --> 01:39:13,089 All right, I only got one minute, 2239 01:39:13,172 --> 01:39:18,448 and I'm at work, and I'm at, like, 4% on my battery. 2240 01:39:18,551 --> 01:39:20,020 OK, Gracie, one minute to do this, 2241 01:39:20,103 --> 01:39:21,655 so my daughter's gonna help me. 2242 01:39:21,758 --> 01:39:24,482 Please excuse me. I just got up. 2243 01:39:24,586 --> 01:39:26,365 Um... 2244 01:39:26,448 --> 01:39:29,068 Marshall Mathers is... 2245 01:39:29,172 --> 01:39:31,241 I can't believe I have this opportunity 2246 01:39:31,344 --> 01:39:34,275 even to make this video, and you might see this, dog. 2247 01:39:34,413 --> 01:39:37,158 Just know I wouldn't be me without you. 2248 01:39:37,241 --> 01:39:40,848 I'm your biggest fan, Marshall Mathers/Eminem. 2249 01:39:40,931 --> 01:39:43,275 Detroit, baby, Detroit. 2250 01:39:43,413 --> 01:39:46,724 I'm Lisa Mathers, and this is Sir Slim Shady Mathers II, 2251 01:39:46,862 --> 01:39:48,020 but we call him Shady for short. 2252 01:39:48,103 --> 01:39:50,896 Just want you to know that I'm Em's biggest fan 2253 01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,848 because I'm pretty much the female version of him. 2254 01:39:53,931 --> 01:39:56,241 Was just married August 26th of last year 2255 01:39:56,344 --> 01:39:57,413 and walked down the aisle 2256 01:39:57,517 --> 01:39:59,330 to the instrumental to "Lose Yourself." 2257 01:39:59,413 --> 01:40:00,620 Bum, bum, bum, bum. 2258 01:40:00,724 --> 01:40:02,123 All my friends and family were like, 2259 01:40:02,206 --> 01:40:03,413 whoa, let's get it. 2260 01:40:03,517 --> 01:40:06,275 I am Stan. Stan I am. 2261 01:40:06,413 --> 01:40:08,620 It's kind of like Dr. Seuss, but no. 2262 01:40:08,724 --> 01:40:10,620 I have two Eminem tattoos. 2263 01:40:10,724 --> 01:40:14,724 One on my chest. One on the other chest. 2264 01:40:14,862 --> 01:40:17,068 And a D12 tattoo. 2265 01:40:17,172 --> 01:40:21,551 I listen to Eminem music every fucking single day. 2266 01:40:21,689 --> 01:40:24,241 I live Eminem, you can say. 2267 01:40:24,379 --> 01:40:28,344 Mr. Mathers, I love you. 2268 01:40:28,448 --> 01:40:30,310 From Japan. 2269 01:40:30,413 --> 01:40:32,710 This is a piece of the tree of the old house 2270 01:40:32,793 --> 01:40:35,503 and a flower from the new house right here. 2271 01:40:35,586 --> 01:40:38,020 Doesn't feel too great, but, at the same time, 2272 01:40:38,103 --> 01:40:39,068 it kind of does. 2273 01:40:39,172 --> 01:40:40,537 Hello, Eminem. 2274 01:40:40,620 --> 01:40:44,710 I'm a fan, and I listen to your music all the time. 2275 01:40:44,793 --> 01:40:47,379 Have a wonderful day and take care of your family. 2276 01:40:47,482 --> 01:40:48,793 Bye. 2277 01:40:48,896 --> 01:40:54,137 ♪ Is having the best day of my life ♪ 2278 01:40:54,241 --> 01:41:01,344 ♪ ♪ 176672

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