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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,767 --> 00:00:12,767 He called himself a "Sick Ripper." 2 00:00:12,867 --> 00:00:15,100 He was an affable Southern gentleman, 3 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:16,467 had a good sense of humor, 4 00:00:16,567 --> 00:00:18,867 and was very easygoing and laid back. 5 00:00:23,633 --> 00:00:27,233 He shows that picture and tells a jailhouse inmate, 6 00:00:27,333 --> 00:00:29,500 I'm the one that murdered this young woman. 7 00:00:36,267 --> 00:00:38,967 She was stepping into a death chamber. 8 00:00:39,833 --> 00:00:41,300 He's a monster. 9 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,000 Sick. 10 00:00:43,100 --> 00:00:46,667 He told me things I don't know if I was ready to hear. 11 00:00:46,767 --> 00:00:50,067 He's probably the most infamous serial killer 12 00:00:50,167 --> 00:00:52,433 that we identified in Connecticut. 13 00:00:56,233 --> 00:00:58,567 And she kept repeating, he's going to kill me. 14 00:00:58,667 --> 00:01:00,433 And he shoots my daughter. 15 00:01:02,833 --> 00:01:04,600 That's about the only time in my career 16 00:01:04,700 --> 00:01:06,267 that I just wanted to shoot him. 17 00:01:15,100 --> 00:01:17,033 You can run, but you can't hide. 18 00:01:39,767 --> 00:01:42,233 I was in charge of the police department. 19 00:01:42,333 --> 00:01:46,167 We got called to a scene out on Hartford Road 20 00:01:46,267 --> 00:01:48,933 behind one of our shopping plazas. 21 00:01:49,033 --> 00:01:50,667 A gentleman walking through the woods 22 00:01:50,767 --> 00:01:54,100 came across what he believed to be human remains. 23 00:01:55,567 --> 00:01:58,200 He knew he had to call the police. 24 00:01:58,300 --> 00:02:00,400 And he admitted he had been back there, 25 00:02:00,500 --> 00:02:01,900 you know, hoping to hunt. 26 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,200 And he had found-- you know, he'd found a skull. 27 00:02:09,167 --> 00:02:10,700 That's a super busy street. 28 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,133 One of the state's largest malls 29 00:02:13,233 --> 00:02:16,400 is literally 100 yards up the road. 30 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:20,833 But it's a little strip mall with a couple of restaurants. 31 00:02:20,933 --> 00:02:25,367 It proceeded with a whole search of the area. 32 00:02:25,467 --> 00:02:28,967 We got the state anthropologist 33 00:02:29,067 --> 00:02:31,933 and the state medical examiner involved 34 00:02:32,033 --> 00:02:34,833 um, and they ended up to being the remains 35 00:02:34,933 --> 00:02:38,500 of three people. 36 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,900 They figured out that it was three 37 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,067 separate women was because there were three, like, 38 00:02:44,167 --> 00:02:46,567 either right or left hip bones. 39 00:02:46,667 --> 00:02:49,767 So obviously that indicates three different people. 40 00:02:52,333 --> 00:02:57,767 They were all identified at that time as Jane Does. 41 00:02:57,867 --> 00:03:00,433 Which just broke my heart. 42 00:03:00,533 --> 00:03:02,767 We needed to know who they were, 43 00:03:02,867 --> 00:03:04,767 reunite them with their families. 44 00:03:04,867 --> 00:03:10,467 No human being should be left behind like that. 45 00:03:10,567 --> 00:03:12,267 We relied heavily 46 00:03:12,367 --> 00:03:17,867 on reports of missing persons. 47 00:03:17,967 --> 00:03:21,133 We searched databases in the tri-state area 48 00:03:21,233 --> 00:03:24,733 to try to match with whatever we could 49 00:03:24,833 --> 00:03:26,700 with whatever the science at the time 50 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,367 was allowing us to do. 51 00:03:29,467 --> 00:03:33,133 Someone has got to find justice. 52 00:03:38,267 --> 00:03:39,700 In those years, 53 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,367 the New Britain Police Department did everything, 54 00:03:43,467 --> 00:03:47,000 everything they could possibly do to identify these women. 55 00:03:47,100 --> 00:03:51,233 These women were loved, and somebody is missing them. 56 00:03:51,333 --> 00:03:55,467 And the trick is how do you figure out who? 57 00:03:55,567 --> 00:04:00,333 So about 2009, two New Britain detectives 58 00:04:00,433 --> 00:04:02,900 drove two skulls, 59 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,933 and at that point, they were known as 60 00:04:05,033 --> 00:04:07,433 Jane Doe 1 and Jane Doe 2, 61 00:04:07,533 --> 00:04:11,767 to a specialized unit within the FBI 62 00:04:11,867 --> 00:04:13,867 in Quantico, Virginia. 63 00:04:13,967 --> 00:04:18,900 And what that unit does is it creates 64 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,167 busts, basically, of what they thought 65 00:04:23,267 --> 00:04:25,167 the person would look like. 66 00:04:25,267 --> 00:04:29,200 And by 2010, the police announced, you know, 67 00:04:29,300 --> 00:04:31,467 we've got these busts in the hopes that 68 00:04:31,567 --> 00:04:35,433 somebody would recognize these women. 69 00:04:35,533 --> 00:04:40,133 We published photos of it in the local media. 70 00:04:40,233 --> 00:04:44,833 And it was the same night or the next night 71 00:04:44,933 --> 00:04:48,967 after it was ran I received a phone call. 72 00:04:49,067 --> 00:04:53,567 It did lead to the discovery 73 00:04:53,667 --> 00:04:59,067 that Jane Doe 1 was Diane Cusack. 74 00:04:59,167 --> 00:05:01,900 She had been addicted to drugs for many years 75 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,333 and lived a very hard life on the streets. 76 00:05:05,433 --> 00:05:08,567 Diane was never reported as missing, 77 00:05:08,667 --> 00:05:11,833 but not because her family didn't care. 78 00:05:11,933 --> 00:05:14,400 It was because there were periods of her life 79 00:05:14,500 --> 00:05:16,400 where she wouldn't communicate. 80 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:18,000 This one had gone on too long. 81 00:05:18,100 --> 00:05:21,300 They start-- they had become very concerned. 82 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,867 She and her family had been estranged 83 00:05:23,967 --> 00:05:25,633 for a good number of years, 84 00:05:25,733 --> 00:05:28,833 but the bust kind of looked like her a bit 85 00:05:28,933 --> 00:05:33,200 and that prompted, I think it was her brother and his wife, 86 00:05:33,300 --> 00:05:34,867 to come forward and say, you know what? 87 00:05:34,967 --> 00:05:37,500 Hey, this may be Diane. 88 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,733 I remember her telling me, you know, 89 00:05:39,833 --> 00:05:41,433 the face looks like Diane. 90 00:05:41,533 --> 00:05:44,967 The hair is wrong, but the face looks like Diane. 91 00:05:45,067 --> 00:05:48,267 We ran with that, and we were able to make 92 00:05:48,367 --> 00:05:53,900 a dental match and a DNA match at that point with Diane. 93 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,433 We could talk to her family, friends, retrace her steps. 94 00:05:58,533 --> 00:05:59,700 When was she last seen? 95 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,300 And that brought us back to 2003. 96 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,233 So now we had a date range. 97 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,333 In September of 2013, 98 00:06:16,433 --> 00:06:19,600 again, we get the notice, oh, a big press conference. 99 00:06:19,700 --> 00:06:23,800 So I walk into the training room at the police station 100 00:06:23,900 --> 00:06:26,200 and there is this poster 101 00:06:26,300 --> 00:06:29,833 of this gorgeous young girl 102 00:06:29,933 --> 00:06:32,400 with jet-black hair, you know, 103 00:06:32,500 --> 00:06:36,567 just done beautifully, red lipstick, smiling. 104 00:06:36,667 --> 00:06:41,000 She had big, big hoop earrings. 105 00:06:41,100 --> 00:06:45,800 They had identified Joyvaline Martinez 106 00:06:45,900 --> 00:06:47,667 through her DNA. 107 00:06:47,767 --> 00:06:51,633 She went missing in October of 2003. 108 00:06:51,733 --> 00:06:53,533 I mean, she was missed terribly. 109 00:06:53,633 --> 00:06:56,000 Her sister Sandra said 110 00:06:56,100 --> 00:06:58,167 they refused to move out of New Britain 111 00:06:58,267 --> 00:06:59,700 because they didn't know if someday, 112 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:01,033 she was going to return. 113 00:07:01,133 --> 00:07:04,133 As time goes on, technology improves, 114 00:07:04,233 --> 00:07:06,733 and their capability in terms of, you know, 115 00:07:06,833 --> 00:07:09,533 calling DNA and examining DNA improves. 116 00:07:09,633 --> 00:07:15,267 So enough time had gone by that they were able to identify her. 117 00:07:29,067 --> 00:07:32,967 He told the other inmates what he had done. 118 00:07:33,067 --> 00:07:37,933 And his name is William Devin Howell. 119 00:07:39,633 --> 00:07:42,200 At that time, William Devin Howell 120 00:07:42,300 --> 00:07:44,967 and Jonathan Mills were playing a card game 121 00:07:45,067 --> 00:07:48,333 with a cold case card playing deck. 122 00:07:49,767 --> 00:07:51,667 The playing cards is a 123 00:07:51,767 --> 00:07:55,467 technique that the police and the prosecution have used 124 00:07:55,567 --> 00:07:59,933 to try to solve cold cases, and they put these cards 125 00:08:00,033 --> 00:08:02,467 into the Department of Corrections systems 126 00:08:02,567 --> 00:08:04,100 and allow the inmates to play cards 127 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,533 and on the cards are faces of deceased individuals 128 00:08:08,633 --> 00:08:10,867 whose cases are unsolved. 129 00:08:10,967 --> 00:08:13,933 They have their phone number, hotline to call, 130 00:08:14,033 --> 00:08:17,733 and a lot of inmates, um, take advantage of that. 131 00:08:17,833 --> 00:08:22,033 Either because they know or they don't know 132 00:08:22,133 --> 00:08:24,400 but they're going to try to pretend that they know 133 00:08:24,500 --> 00:08:28,167 information to try to get their sentences commuted or shortened 134 00:08:28,267 --> 00:08:30,667 or something of that sort, some kind of benefit. 135 00:08:32,433 --> 00:08:36,700 Howell pulls the card of Joyvaline Martinez. 136 00:08:37,833 --> 00:08:42,700 He shows that picture to Jonathan Mills and tells Mills, 137 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,633 I'm the one that murdered this young woman. 138 00:08:46,733 --> 00:08:50,433 Not only did I murder Joyvaline Martinez, 139 00:08:50,533 --> 00:08:54,267 I murdered seven people and I put all of their bodies 140 00:08:54,367 --> 00:08:56,567 behind a strip mall in New Britain. 141 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:05,033 He even went as far as drawing a map 142 00:09:05,133 --> 00:09:09,133 and showing him the placement of those graves 143 00:09:09,233 --> 00:09:11,700 in his burial ground. 144 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,367 He said that he buried these bodies in his garden. 145 00:09:20,967 --> 00:09:24,033 And he called himself a "Sick Ripper." 146 00:09:50,167 --> 00:09:54,700 We brought in the cadaver dog that was offered by the FBI. 147 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,033 This dog alerted us to areas 148 00:09:58,133 --> 00:10:03,033 in a very large piece of acreage that was again, 149 00:10:03,133 --> 00:10:07,333 very heavily wooded and difficult to traverse. 150 00:10:10,033 --> 00:10:13,633 Within days, they had found four more bodies. 151 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,533 - 22. - Mm. 152 00:10:42,633 --> 00:10:43,633 Possibly. 153 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,433 Mm-hmm. 154 00:10:46,533 --> 00:10:50,267 Mel, she and I, we had an amazing childhood. 155 00:10:50,367 --> 00:10:53,667 We played with Barbies and she would play the piano. 156 00:10:53,767 --> 00:10:56,300 She was amazing. 157 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,200 A very strong person. 158 00:10:59,300 --> 00:11:01,433 Even physically. 159 00:11:01,533 --> 00:11:04,900 She was tiny but still strong. 160 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:10,200 She was a good mother. She loved her kids. 161 00:11:10,300 --> 00:11:13,067 I can remember being around 16. 162 00:11:13,167 --> 00:11:15,900 She was around 17. 163 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,233 And I can remember seeing a change. 164 00:11:20,333 --> 00:11:24,300 She had a really strong addiction to drugs. 165 00:11:26,633 --> 00:11:30,367 I couldn't imagine having something so strong 166 00:11:30,467 --> 00:11:32,367 taking control of you 167 00:11:32,467 --> 00:11:37,300 to where I know she wanted to be a good mom... 168 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,000 and then she couldn't be. 169 00:11:42,433 --> 00:11:47,400 I knew something really bad happened. 170 00:11:58,667 --> 00:12:00,800 When Nilsa Arizmendi disappeared 171 00:12:00,900 --> 00:12:03,900 on July 25th of 2003, 172 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:08,233 her family went almost immediately to authorities. 173 00:12:08,333 --> 00:12:13,467 And she was known to frequently call her mother 174 00:12:13,567 --> 00:12:16,667 and her four children and visit with them, 175 00:12:16,767 --> 00:12:21,500 so her not being around was a noticeable concern 176 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:22,967 to the family members. 177 00:12:24,833 --> 00:12:27,800 Nilsa and her boyfriend lived in a motel 178 00:12:27,900 --> 00:12:30,267 where they would leave every afternoon 179 00:12:30,367 --> 00:12:34,300 and walk about a mile and a half into New Britain, 180 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:39,000 where Nilsa would hustle the streets. 181 00:12:39,100 --> 00:12:42,067 Nilsa's boyfriend was the one who said, you know what? 182 00:12:42,167 --> 00:12:45,933 She went off with this guy and never came back. 183 00:12:46,033 --> 00:12:48,833 The last person to be seen with his girlfriend, 184 00:12:48,933 --> 00:12:52,967 Nilsa Arizmendi, was William Devin Howell. 185 00:12:56,100 --> 00:12:59,567 When the investigators searched Howell's van, 186 00:12:59,667 --> 00:13:03,100 they discover one DNA sample 187 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,967 belonging to Nilsa Arizmendi. 188 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,300 I think what motivated him to accept that plea was 189 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,967 the fact that the prosecution 190 00:13:27,067 --> 00:13:30,700 had blood DNA evidence on hand 191 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:35,567 showing that Nilsa Arizmendi's blood was in that van. 192 00:13:35,667 --> 00:13:38,267 Now, granted, it was just a single drop of blood, 193 00:13:38,367 --> 00:13:41,300 but they had it. 194 00:14:08,633 --> 00:14:14,400 It took a few weeks or so to positively identify each one, 195 00:14:14,500 --> 00:14:18,767 and they announced that one of the remains was Nilsa's. 196 00:14:20,467 --> 00:14:21,767 At that point, 197 00:14:21,867 --> 00:14:24,367 we did identify the remaining victims. 198 00:14:24,467 --> 00:14:26,200 There was seven victims 199 00:14:26,300 --> 00:14:30,000 all buried in the same general area. 200 00:14:32,733 --> 00:14:37,367 My mom was in contact with one officer. 201 00:14:37,467 --> 00:14:43,000 And she had called me and said they want to meet with me. 202 00:14:43,100 --> 00:14:46,633 So I kind of knew. I knew something was going on. 203 00:14:46,733 --> 00:14:49,567 Ironically enough, it was on Mel's birthday. 204 00:14:49,667 --> 00:14:51,033 Huh. 205 00:14:54,100 --> 00:14:55,667 And I remember her calling. 206 00:14:55,767 --> 00:15:00,600 And, uh... 207 00:15:00,700 --> 00:15:03,567 all she said was it's her. 208 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:13,500 Melanie Camilini, a young mother of two children. 209 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,067 She was working the streets in Waterbury, Connecticut. 210 00:15:17,167 --> 00:15:19,367 And unfortunately for her, 211 00:15:19,467 --> 00:15:25,067 when she stepped into that 1985 Ford Econoline van, 212 00:15:25,167 --> 00:15:28,267 she was stepping into a death chamber. 213 00:15:28,367 --> 00:15:30,833 He did first attempt to kill her 214 00:15:30,933 --> 00:15:34,167 after raping her with a hammer. 215 00:15:34,267 --> 00:15:36,933 He said that it didn't even knock her out, 216 00:15:37,033 --> 00:15:40,733 but it terrified her and she pled for her life. 217 00:15:40,833 --> 00:15:44,167 At that point, he decided to strangle her. 218 00:15:44,267 --> 00:15:45,833 He thought it would be the quickest 219 00:15:45,933 --> 00:15:49,933 and most efficient way to bring about her death. 220 00:15:53,300 --> 00:15:57,900 These victims were Diane Cusack, Mary Jane Menard, 221 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,333 Joyvaline Martinez, Danny Lee, Marilyn Gonzalez, 222 00:16:02,433 --> 00:16:08,133 Nilsa Arizmendi, and Melanie Camilini. 223 00:16:08,233 --> 00:16:11,467 I did a preliminary review of the arrest warrant, 224 00:16:11,567 --> 00:16:15,467 and, you know, it paints a picture of a person 225 00:16:15,567 --> 00:16:19,467 who would consider doing this type of crime. 226 00:16:19,567 --> 00:16:22,733 And so I kind of formulated an image of him. 227 00:16:22,833 --> 00:16:25,133 And then I met him. 228 00:16:25,233 --> 00:16:27,633 And the person that I met 229 00:16:27,733 --> 00:16:29,533 did not correspond with the image 230 00:16:29,633 --> 00:16:31,400 that I had created in my mind. 231 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:35,433 He was an affable Southern gentleman, 232 00:16:35,533 --> 00:16:38,200 had a good sense of humor, 233 00:16:38,300 --> 00:16:40,800 and was very easygoing and laid back. 234 00:16:40,900 --> 00:16:42,533 You know, every time they brought him in 235 00:16:42,633 --> 00:16:44,700 in the orange jumpsuit, 236 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,767 he just looked like this ordinary guy. 237 00:16:49,167 --> 00:16:52,067 He was like an ordinary guy. 238 00:17:16,567 --> 00:17:18,500 Hey, Bill. 239 00:17:20,333 --> 00:17:22,100 Yes, we do. 240 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,067 Let's talk about the crimes. 241 00:17:24,167 --> 00:17:27,167 I've got to ask you a few questions about those. 242 00:17:27,267 --> 00:17:28,633 What was it that brought you 243 00:17:28,733 --> 00:17:32,067 some kind of satisfaction in that? 244 00:17:49,067 --> 00:17:50,333 Mm-hmm. 245 00:18:05,500 --> 00:18:08,867 My motivation from the start was, of course, to write a book 246 00:18:08,967 --> 00:18:10,433 about William Devin Howell. 247 00:18:10,533 --> 00:18:12,667 And at all times, he knew 248 00:18:12,767 --> 00:18:15,733 that that was the reason why I was visiting him. 249 00:18:15,833 --> 00:18:19,133 I mean, I would say by no means am I what I think of 250 00:18:19,233 --> 00:18:23,133 as one of these serial killer groupies who is fascinated 251 00:18:23,233 --> 00:18:24,767 with serial killers, 252 00:18:24,867 --> 00:18:28,067 who wants to go visit these men in prison. 253 00:18:28,167 --> 00:18:33,167 If anything, when I went to visit Powell in prison 254 00:18:33,267 --> 00:18:37,267 to discuss information that I needed to get for this book, 255 00:18:37,367 --> 00:18:41,400 I frequently found myself dreading that visit. 256 00:18:41,500 --> 00:18:43,033 It was uncomfortable. 257 00:18:43,133 --> 00:18:46,433 I felt nervous driving there wondering, 258 00:18:46,533 --> 00:18:50,367 what would I say to this man who is a serial killer? 259 00:18:50,467 --> 00:18:53,267 I wonder if I did the right thing 260 00:18:53,367 --> 00:18:55,867 in getting to know this man. 261 00:18:55,967 --> 00:19:00,333 He eventually told me things 262 00:19:00,433 --> 00:19:04,033 +that I don't know if I was ready to hear. 263 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:19,600 William Devin Howell was born in Hampton, Virginia, 264 00:19:19,700 --> 00:19:22,000 back in 1970. 265 00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:24,400 He was the last of four children. 266 00:19:24,500 --> 00:19:26,033 However, two of his brothers were 267 00:19:26,133 --> 00:19:28,667 quite a bit older than Howell. 268 00:19:28,767 --> 00:19:31,067 One of his brothers was serving in Vietnam 269 00:19:31,167 --> 00:19:33,200 at the time of Howell's birth. 270 00:19:34,967 --> 00:19:36,500 You know, I talked to Bill quite a bit 271 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,900 about his background, his childhood, parents, 272 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,633 and he described his upbringing as very happy. 273 00:19:44,733 --> 00:19:48,367 His mother and father were-- it wasn't a broken marriage. 274 00:19:48,467 --> 00:19:49,667 They were together. 275 00:19:49,767 --> 00:19:52,133 He describes a happy childhood. 276 00:19:52,233 --> 00:19:53,833 By the age of 12, 277 00:19:53,933 --> 00:19:58,967 William Devin Howell's mother got sick with breast cancer. 278 00:19:59,067 --> 00:20:02,067 She was at the time in her early 50s, 279 00:20:02,167 --> 00:20:07,100 and this really did affect Howell quite a bit. 280 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,933 She was sort of a source of stability in his life. 281 00:20:11,033 --> 00:20:13,200 She gave him protection and routine. 282 00:20:13,300 --> 00:20:15,600 She was a strong disciplinarian. 283 00:20:17,100 --> 00:20:19,133 Howell began to solicit prostitutes 284 00:20:19,233 --> 00:20:20,933 at a very young age. 285 00:20:21,033 --> 00:20:22,700 He was only 14 years old. 286 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,300 He stole his father's car in the middle of the night 287 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,200 and drove silently off 288 00:20:28,300 --> 00:20:30,433 and picked up his first prostitute. 289 00:20:30,533 --> 00:20:33,000 It became his secret addiction, 290 00:20:33,100 --> 00:20:36,900 soliciting prostitutes in the middle of the night. 291 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,900 He has been with well over a thousand prostitutes 292 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,267 over the years. 293 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,967 In his late teens, he got into a drunk driving accident. 294 00:20:48,067 --> 00:20:50,067 Following that accident, 295 00:20:50,167 --> 00:20:56,167 he was frequently incarcerated for driving without a license. 296 00:20:56,267 --> 00:20:58,400 William Devin Howell would work at places 297 00:20:58,500 --> 00:21:00,933 like 7-Eleven as a cashier. 298 00:21:01,033 --> 00:21:02,833 He worked at a gas station 299 00:21:02,933 --> 00:21:07,967 and just petty cash that he earned mowing lawns. 300 00:21:08,067 --> 00:21:12,067 I think there was a time period of hope 301 00:21:12,167 --> 00:21:16,367 for William Devin Howell when his first child was born. 302 00:21:16,467 --> 00:21:18,900 At the time he was in his late teens, 303 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,467 he moved down to Florida with the mother of his child. 304 00:21:22,567 --> 00:21:25,200 At the time, he was working at a 7-Eleven. 305 00:21:25,300 --> 00:21:28,733 And one could see that at that point, 306 00:21:28,833 --> 00:21:31,067 there could have been a turning point in his future 307 00:21:31,167 --> 00:21:36,333 where he became a responsible family man like his father. 308 00:21:36,433 --> 00:21:38,800 However, I think what did him in 309 00:21:38,900 --> 00:21:41,967 was the fact that he still had this addiction 310 00:21:42,067 --> 00:21:44,733 to soliciting prostitutes. 311 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,167 I guess ultimately, 312 00:22:13,267 --> 00:22:17,500 he decided to plead guilty. 313 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,533 They actually gave him six life sentences 314 00:22:20,633 --> 00:22:25,300 and he agreed to that to spare, you know, 315 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,833 the families of going through the trial. 316 00:22:30,500 --> 00:22:34,467 And that's what just confounds me, Bill, 317 00:22:34,567 --> 00:22:38,167 is that after knowing you for three years, 318 00:22:38,267 --> 00:22:41,667 I feel honestly like you have shown me 319 00:22:41,767 --> 00:22:45,300 nothing but respect and goodwill. 320 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,333 How come I get good treatment and--and-- 321 00:22:49,433 --> 00:22:50,900 but they didn't? 322 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,833 What's the difference between me and them? 323 00:23:12,233 --> 00:23:13,200 Mm. 324 00:23:37,300 --> 00:23:40,600 You know, they had addiction issues, 325 00:23:40,700 --> 00:23:45,300 and he was offering drugs, so they were vulnerable. 326 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,833 They were vulnerable people and he took advantage of that. 327 00:23:52,533 --> 00:23:55,400 Now, keep in mind, if a woman uses drugs, 328 00:23:55,500 --> 00:23:58,833 to Howell, that's one of the two things 329 00:23:58,933 --> 00:24:01,933 that makes them a worthless object. 330 00:24:02,033 --> 00:24:06,700 He claimed that the only victim that troubled him 331 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,967 was his first victim, Melanie Camilini. 332 00:24:10,067 --> 00:24:11,967 And what bothered him the most 333 00:24:12,067 --> 00:24:15,300 was when she begged for her life and said, 334 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,300 "Please don't kill me, I have children." 335 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,733 He said, "That really troubled me when she said that, 336 00:24:21,833 --> 00:24:23,933 and I almost couldn't do it." 337 00:24:24,033 --> 00:24:27,467 Nonetheless, he knew that he had just repeatedly raped her 338 00:24:27,567 --> 00:24:29,767 over a 12-hour period 339 00:24:29,867 --> 00:24:33,933 and that he, in his way of thinking, had no choice. 340 00:24:34,900 --> 00:24:37,633 All of us make our own decisions, 341 00:24:37,733 --> 00:24:40,833 and regardless of background, 342 00:24:40,933 --> 00:24:46,000 he chose to do what he did to these seven innocent people. 343 00:24:48,233 --> 00:24:51,433 He actually kept the tarnished ring 344 00:24:51,533 --> 00:24:55,533 with a stone in it belonging to Melanie Camilini 345 00:24:55,633 --> 00:24:57,567 after he killed her. 346 00:24:57,667 --> 00:24:59,833 That was the only item 347 00:24:59,933 --> 00:25:04,000 belonging to any of his seven victims that Howell kept. 348 00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:05,800 I asked him why he kept that. 349 00:25:05,900 --> 00:25:07,200 Was it a souvenir, 350 00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:09,467 a kind of trophy that serial killers 351 00:25:09,567 --> 00:25:14,700 are known to keep to symbolize their achievement? 352 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,167 He said, "No. 353 00:25:16,267 --> 00:25:18,467 "Actually, I kept that tarnished ring 354 00:25:18,567 --> 00:25:20,700 "to remind me of the night 355 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,500 that I stopped being a man and I became a monster." 356 00:25:36,433 --> 00:25:39,100 Howell, after killing Melanie Camilini 357 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,100 in May of 2003, 358 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,200 he was driving through the streets of Waterbury 359 00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:49,167 and he came upon Marilyn Gonzalez. 360 00:25:49,267 --> 00:25:53,067 She was also a young mother who had a drug addiction 361 00:25:53,167 --> 00:25:56,633 and was turning tricks on the street. 362 00:25:56,733 --> 00:26:00,033 As with Camilini and most of his other victims, 363 00:26:00,133 --> 00:26:04,000 Howell knew that that night, the woman that he paid 364 00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:05,800 was going to end up dead. 365 00:26:07,533 --> 00:26:10,500 He knew that he would rape Marilyn Gonzalez. 366 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,433 And as with all of his other victims, 367 00:26:12,533 --> 00:26:15,967 that took place over a 12-hour period. 368 00:26:16,067 --> 00:26:18,667 On again, off again, in between rapes, 369 00:26:18,767 --> 00:26:24,000 he would bind his captives 370 00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:27,467 to the backbench of his van, duct tape their mouths, 371 00:26:27,567 --> 00:26:31,733 and drive them to different locations. 372 00:26:31,833 --> 00:26:37,000 At the time of the killing spree, 373 00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:38,967 I think in your mind, 374 00:26:39,067 --> 00:26:44,433 you did see them as worthless human beings, am I correct? 375 00:26:44,533 --> 00:26:45,900 You just kind of-- 376 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,133 certainly, when you raped and killed them, 377 00:26:48,233 --> 00:26:50,233 they weren't human beings to you. 378 00:26:50,333 --> 00:26:53,867 They were objects. Would you agree with that? 379 00:27:03,233 --> 00:27:04,267 Mm-hmm. 380 00:27:23,167 --> 00:27:26,933 Howell completely misunderstood 381 00:27:27,033 --> 00:27:30,833 the people that he victimized, these innocent victims. 382 00:27:30,933 --> 00:27:34,000 He thought of them to be without value, 383 00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:36,133 without purpose in this world. 384 00:27:36,233 --> 00:27:37,767 He couldn't have been more wrong. 385 00:27:37,867 --> 00:27:40,000 He didn't value them as human beings. 386 00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:44,400 He didn't value most people as human beings. 387 00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:47,200 He thought of them as disposable. 388 00:27:49,267 --> 00:27:53,167 I think he always had this binary view of women. 389 00:27:53,267 --> 00:27:56,433 There were the good girls and the bad girls. 390 00:27:56,533 --> 00:27:58,167 The good girls would be someone like 391 00:27:58,267 --> 00:27:59,567 the mother of his children. 392 00:27:59,667 --> 00:28:02,067 He says to me that she is a good girl. 393 00:28:02,167 --> 00:28:04,633 She does not drink. She does not smoke. 394 00:28:04,733 --> 00:28:06,500 She does not do drugs. 395 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,467 She was a good mother to the children. 396 00:28:08,567 --> 00:28:10,167 She was faithful to him. 397 00:28:10,267 --> 00:28:12,300 And then there are the bad girls. 398 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,733 And these would be the women 399 00:28:13,833 --> 00:28:15,767 that he would pick up on the streets. 400 00:28:20,533 --> 00:28:21,533 Mm-hmm. 401 00:28:49,433 --> 00:28:52,067 Howell picked up Daniel Whistnant 402 00:28:52,167 --> 00:28:55,733 outside of this bar-restaurant 403 00:28:55,833 --> 00:28:59,200 called the Cadillac Ranch in Southington, Connecticut. 404 00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:04,300 It was Howell's habit to go to places like the Cadillac Ranch 405 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,967 when he had a night off 406 00:29:06,067 --> 00:29:09,033 and to sit at the bar for hours 407 00:29:09,133 --> 00:29:12,333 and hope to get lucky finding a woman at the bar. 408 00:29:12,433 --> 00:29:14,800 If he didn't have any luck at the bar, 409 00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:18,800 by the time the bar closed, he would go to the streets 410 00:29:18,900 --> 00:29:21,833 and solicit a prostitute instead. 411 00:29:21,933 --> 00:29:24,867 Now, the bar closed at 2:00 a.m. 412 00:29:24,967 --> 00:29:28,700 and Howell went outside and saw Daniel Whistnant 413 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,100 walking along the street, who was dressed as a woman. 414 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,200 He had long, silky black hair, Howell states, 415 00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:39,100 and a short miniskirt and high heels. 416 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,000 And so thinking Daniel Whistnant 417 00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:42,933 is a female prostitute, 418 00:29:43,033 --> 00:29:46,400 he invites Mr. Whistnant into his van. 419 00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:50,000 During the transaction that took place, 420 00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:52,967 Howell puts his hand on the head of Whistnant 421 00:29:53,067 --> 00:29:56,400 and pulls off a wig. 422 00:29:56,500 --> 00:30:02,067 He becomes enraged that this man has deceived him 423 00:30:02,167 --> 00:30:04,633 into this vulnerable position. 424 00:30:04,733 --> 00:30:09,967 He throws Daniel Whistnant against the wall of the van 425 00:30:10,067 --> 00:30:14,300 and tells me that he punched him out twice 426 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,500 and then quickly strangled him. 427 00:30:24,633 --> 00:30:28,400 We're at the back of the strip mall in New Britain 428 00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:31,767 where William Devin Howell would leave the remains 429 00:30:31,867 --> 00:30:33,800 of his seven victims. 430 00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:36,567 First off, he would stop his van 431 00:30:36,667 --> 00:30:39,233 over there behind the strip mall 432 00:30:39,333 --> 00:30:45,033 and dump the parcel, or the body of his victim, 433 00:30:45,133 --> 00:30:49,433 wrapped in garbage bags, deep into the ravine. 434 00:30:49,533 --> 00:30:52,067 And then what he would do is he'd get back into his van 435 00:30:52,167 --> 00:30:57,200 and go over to the McDonald's parking lot, park his car, 436 00:30:57,300 --> 00:31:01,833 and come back to this location where we're at right now. 437 00:31:01,933 --> 00:31:04,100 There's a trail, as you can see. 438 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,800 It goes into 439 00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:12,233 sort of a meadow-like littered area. 440 00:31:12,333 --> 00:31:16,833 And William Devin Howell would walk this trail 441 00:31:16,933 --> 00:31:21,067 and make a sharp right that led into the ravine 442 00:31:21,167 --> 00:31:25,700 where the parcel that he had left was left in the ravine. 443 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:31,067 He would retrieve a spade, a shovel that he had stored 444 00:31:31,167 --> 00:31:32,900 behind the guardrail, 445 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,333 and then he would drag that body, 446 00:31:36,433 --> 00:31:40,200 along with his shovel, about a few hundred yards 447 00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:42,633 into the woods to the location 448 00:31:42,733 --> 00:31:46,000 that he was known to call his garden, 449 00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:49,733 which is where he buried, in very shallow graves, 450 00:31:49,833 --> 00:31:54,100 the seven bodies of the people that he killed. 451 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,200 In the case of Nilsa Arizmendi, 452 00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:21,567 he states that he didn't plan to rape and kill her. 453 00:32:21,667 --> 00:32:24,167 Now, it's interesting that up until then, 454 00:32:24,267 --> 00:32:27,600 any time he planned to rape a prostitute, 455 00:32:27,700 --> 00:32:29,633 it was based solely, he says, 456 00:32:29,733 --> 00:32:33,100 on his lawn care schedule the following day. 457 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,300 If he didn't have lawns 458 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,467 that he had to mow the next morning, 459 00:32:38,567 --> 00:32:40,200 then that night, he knew 460 00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:45,333 he was free to solicit a prostitute and keep her captive 461 00:32:45,433 --> 00:32:51,133 in his van for the entire night and throughout the next day. 462 00:32:51,233 --> 00:32:54,567 Now, with Nilsa Arizmendi, when she stepped into his van 463 00:32:54,667 --> 00:32:58,167 and asked him to drive her to a location to pick up drugs, 464 00:32:58,267 --> 00:32:59,733 he said he would do so 465 00:32:59,833 --> 00:33:03,133 in exchange for a sexual transaction. 466 00:33:03,233 --> 00:33:06,133 What happened was when she refused 467 00:33:06,233 --> 00:33:11,067 to finish that transaction, he grew very angry. 468 00:33:11,167 --> 00:33:13,433 He decided in that split second, 469 00:33:13,533 --> 00:33:16,000 I am going to rape and kill this woman. 470 00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:19,900 The next day, he had the lawn care schedule. 471 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,833 So he had to keep Nilsa's body wrapped in tarp 472 00:33:23,933 --> 00:33:28,067 in the back of his van for the duration of his lawn care jobs 473 00:33:28,167 --> 00:33:30,700 that next day before taking her out 474 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,500 to the back of the mall and burying her. 475 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:46,967 Mm-hmm. 476 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,967 I remember going to the crime scene. 477 00:34:22,067 --> 00:34:26,433 When I walked down the embankment in my dress shoes, 478 00:34:26,533 --> 00:34:28,600 and it was kind of muddy and slippery, 479 00:34:28,700 --> 00:34:30,367 and when I was down there, I felt like I was 480 00:34:30,467 --> 00:34:32,400 in an amphitheater kind of looking up. 481 00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:34,300 And I thought, huh, this is actually 482 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,967 a pretty interesting place to have buried bodies. 483 00:34:38,067 --> 00:34:40,333 You know, you'd think, well, people might be driving by 484 00:34:40,433 --> 00:34:44,700 and look down, but it wasn't a place that you would suspect. 485 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,233 So it probably was the perfect place. 486 00:34:48,333 --> 00:34:52,900 In a 10-week time period in August, September, 487 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,000 and the first two weeks of October, 488 00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:57,400 his last three victims died. 489 00:34:59,667 --> 00:35:01,167 He picked up Mary Jane Menard 490 00:35:01,267 --> 00:35:04,200 on the streets of Waterbury, Connecticut, 491 00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:06,733 and went through his typical routine 492 00:35:06,833 --> 00:35:11,200 of holding her captive in his van for 12 hours, 493 00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:13,300 raping her off and on, 494 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,000 and eventually strangling her. 495 00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:20,900 In this case, he strangled her in the back parking lot 496 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,400 of the McDonald's which was located right next to 497 00:35:24,500 --> 00:35:29,833 the strip mall where his burial ground was located. 498 00:36:10,567 --> 00:36:14,867 The sixth victim was Diane Cusack. 499 00:36:14,967 --> 00:36:18,400 Howell picked her up in New Britain, Connecticut, 500 00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:20,800 and went through his similar routine 501 00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:25,000 of raping and strangulation in the McDonald's parking lot. 502 00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:26,467 And this is where 503 00:36:26,567 --> 00:36:30,933 three of William Devin Howell's victims died. 504 00:36:31,033 --> 00:36:33,200 He parked his car right over there 505 00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:37,433 and raped and strangled three of his victims. 506 00:36:37,533 --> 00:36:39,033 Now as you can see, 507 00:36:39,133 --> 00:36:42,533 there is a very busy drive-thru to my left. 508 00:36:42,633 --> 00:36:45,133 This is a popular McDonald's 509 00:36:45,233 --> 00:36:48,533 and it's not outside of the realm of possibility 510 00:36:48,633 --> 00:36:50,533 that quite a lot of people, 511 00:36:50,633 --> 00:36:53,533 even as Howell was killing his victims 512 00:36:53,633 --> 00:36:56,600 or going up the trail to bury his victims, 513 00:36:56,700 --> 00:37:00,033 would have seen his van and seen him 514 00:37:00,133 --> 00:37:04,900 at least walking up the trail and made no question of it. 515 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,033 Ironically, Howell would also 516 00:37:08,133 --> 00:37:10,433 go through this very drive-thru 517 00:37:10,533 --> 00:37:13,767 with some of his victims held captive 518 00:37:13,867 --> 00:37:17,600 in the back of his van, tied up and duct taped. 519 00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:20,900 And he said to me that he would turn the music up high 520 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,933 so no one would hear him-- or hear the victims 521 00:37:25,033 --> 00:37:27,833 if they were screaming or cried for help. 522 00:37:27,933 --> 00:37:31,433 And during that time, he would actually order food 523 00:37:31,533 --> 00:37:34,000 through the drive-thru 524 00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:39,200 and ask his victims if they also wanted something to eat. 525 00:38:00,533 --> 00:38:04,633 That 1985 Ford Econoline van, 526 00:38:04,733 --> 00:38:07,933 he told the fellow inmate that he confessed to 527 00:38:08,033 --> 00:38:11,333 that he called it the Murdermobile. 528 00:38:11,433 --> 00:38:15,667 And it really is a ghastly vehicle. 529 00:38:15,767 --> 00:38:17,900 It's right here. 530 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,500 You know, it was all rusted and, you know, 531 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,300 treadless wheels 532 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,933 and there was some plywood on the back of the windows. 533 00:38:27,033 --> 00:38:30,000 And this is where all the crimes took place, 534 00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:33,633 was in the interior of that van. 535 00:38:33,733 --> 00:38:36,900 He did give me title to this awful van. 536 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,400 And believe me, I won't be driving this van. 537 00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:41,000 But I'm most definitely 538 00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:45,800 going to take it to the junkyard 539 00:38:45,900 --> 00:38:47,167 and get it crushed. 540 00:38:47,267 --> 00:38:48,900 I think it would be a good thing 541 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,700 to extinguish this awful vehicle 542 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,967 from the face of the Earth. 543 00:38:57,433 --> 00:39:00,800 Joyvaline Martinez was Howell's last victim. 544 00:39:00,900 --> 00:39:02,700 She was a very beautiful young girl. 545 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,433 She was only 23 years old at the time of her death. 546 00:39:06,533 --> 00:39:08,867 William Devin Howell picked her up 547 00:39:08,967 --> 00:39:12,667 on Hillside Avenue in Hartford, Connecticut. 548 00:39:12,767 --> 00:39:15,800 And as with his other victims, he went through the routine 549 00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:19,000 of holding her captive in the back of his van 550 00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:22,333 for a 12-hour period, during which time 551 00:39:22,433 --> 00:39:24,700 he raped her off and on 552 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,333 and ultimately strangled her to death. 553 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,500 It's my belief if he wasn't arrested, 554 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,133 he would have continued. 555 00:39:38,233 --> 00:39:41,433 And that we would have more victims. 556 00:39:41,533 --> 00:39:45,800 He didn't value women as equal 557 00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:47,933 or even worthy of life. 558 00:39:48,033 --> 00:39:53,833 He--the terrible things he did without the remorse 559 00:39:53,933 --> 00:39:58,767 and did it again and did it again and did it again. 560 00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:27,067 In Connecticut, when you're charged with this type-- 561 00:40:27,167 --> 00:40:28,667 or convicted of this type of offense, 562 00:40:28,767 --> 00:40:32,467 you're in a 8x10-foot cell, approximately, 563 00:40:32,567 --> 00:40:35,267 22 hour a day lockdown, 564 00:40:35,367 --> 00:40:38,400 and you're isolated with your thoughts. 565 00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:41,100 And it's a pretty 566 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,433 traumatic place to be. 567 00:40:44,533 --> 00:40:47,300 Some people will say that's where he belongs, 568 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,067 but that's his life until he passes away. 569 00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:57,467 In court, I was initially 570 00:40:57,567 --> 00:41:01,033 somewhat hopeful for him and his soul. 571 00:41:01,133 --> 00:41:06,233 Actually, his first words were "I'm sorry." 572 00:41:06,333 --> 00:41:09,967 But then he went on to speak pretty much at length 573 00:41:10,067 --> 00:41:15,600 about how life is so difficult for him in prison. 574 00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:20,400 So it really very quickly turned into 575 00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:23,867 he was sorry for the predicament he's in. 576 00:41:23,967 --> 00:41:28,700 To my knowledge, he has not expressed any remorse. 577 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,967 So that's a vintage wedding dress? 578 00:41:35,067 --> 00:41:36,367 Mm-hmm. 579 00:41:36,467 --> 00:41:38,767 - Oh, it's lovely. - Yeah. 580 00:41:38,867 --> 00:41:40,000 It doesn't make sense. 581 00:41:41,733 --> 00:41:46,367 It doesn't make sense that it was her. 582 00:41:46,467 --> 00:41:48,133 You don't want to come to the realization 583 00:41:48,233 --> 00:41:50,633 of what really happened. 584 00:41:50,733 --> 00:41:52,667 It wasn't a car accident. 585 00:41:52,767 --> 00:41:57,300 It wasn't health issues. 586 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:02,067 How do you cope? How do you process? 587 00:42:03,700 --> 00:42:07,667 The victims in this case, they were all loved, 588 00:42:07,767 --> 00:42:09,433 each and every one of them. 589 00:42:09,533 --> 00:42:12,100 Their families never stopped hoping 590 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,767 or waiting for them to return home safely to them. 591 00:42:16,867 --> 00:42:21,600 Each one was a special person. 592 00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:25,800 Being demonic. 593 00:42:25,900 --> 00:42:29,067 There's got to be something like that related with him. 594 00:42:29,167 --> 00:42:30,867 There's no way. 595 00:42:32,533 --> 00:42:33,767 He's a monster. 596 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,100 He's a monster. 597 00:42:38,733 --> 00:42:40,700 Sick. 598 00:42:43,233 --> 00:42:45,600 I will not let another man 599 00:42:45,700 --> 00:42:48,767 destroy my soul by making me hate him. 600 00:42:48,867 --> 00:42:51,667 I won't give him that. I don't think about him. 601 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,800 He would destroy me if I hated him. 602 00:43:14,900 --> 00:43:19,733 Why would someone want a hero in our community dead? 46249

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