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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,990 --> 00:00:07,327 Tonight on "Fact or Faked: Paranormal Files"... 2 00:00:07,395 --> 00:00:09,797 - I've never seen anything like that before. - Right! 3 00:00:11,533 --> 00:00:13,967 Oh, my goodness. Isn't that amazing? 4 00:00:14,035 --> 00:00:15,736 Is there anybody here with me? 5 00:00:18,506 --> 00:00:19,940 - Oh, my God! - - Whoa! 6 00:00:20,008 --> 00:00:21,875 Oh, my gosh. 7 00:00:22,075 --> 00:00:23,775 Wow! Did you see that? 8 00:00:23,845 --> 00:00:26,146 There it is. It is moving. 9 00:00:26,214 --> 00:00:29,583 What I have for you is the real Battle of L.A. 10 00:00:29,651 --> 00:00:30,551 Stand by! 11 00:00:34,789 --> 00:00:36,490 Whoa! 12 00:00:36,558 --> 00:00:37,724 Oh, my goodness! 13 00:00:37,792 --> 00:00:39,126 There's a flying saucer. 14 00:00:39,194 --> 00:00:41,528 I'm getting a series of lights right there. 15 00:00:41,596 --> 00:00:44,431 Are you seeing what I am seeing? 16 00:00:44,499 --> 00:00:45,699 What the heck is happening? 17 00:00:48,599 --> 00:00:53,599 Sync by Jabbberwock www.addic7ed.com 18 00:01:08,523 --> 00:01:11,091 - Hey, guys. - Hello. 19 00:01:11,159 --> 00:01:12,693 You guys all remember Devin? 20 00:01:12,761 --> 00:01:14,895 - Hi, Devin. - Our new team member and tech expert. 21 00:01:14,963 --> 00:01:16,997 How's it going? Why don't we start off? 22 00:01:17,065 --> 00:01:18,966 - Austin, want to kick us off? - All right, guys. 23 00:01:19,034 --> 00:01:20,935 Who's ready for a little bit of poltergeist in their life? 24 00:01:21,002 --> 00:01:21,835 Nice. Oh, those are awesome. 25 00:01:23,805 --> 00:01:26,707 Coming from the land down under, Annandale, Australia. 26 00:01:26,775 --> 00:01:29,143 Glenn Smith, October 17, 2010, 27 00:01:29,210 --> 00:01:31,245 captures this poltergeist activity 28 00:01:31,313 --> 00:01:32,880 actually on his girlfriend's cellphone. 29 00:01:32,948 --> 00:01:35,516 - Oh, my God! - - Whoa! 30 00:01:35,583 --> 00:01:37,451 Oh, my gosh. 31 00:01:37,519 --> 00:01:39,753 Oh, my God. 32 00:01:41,289 --> 00:01:42,957 Watch the bookshelf. Okay. 33 00:01:44,259 --> 00:01:45,159 Oh, my God! 34 00:01:45,226 --> 00:01:47,494 Wow. 35 00:01:47,562 --> 00:01:49,964 The first thing I noticed about this 36 00:01:50,031 --> 00:01:52,733 is that they sound genuinely freaked out. 37 00:01:52,801 --> 00:01:54,201 They're so scared. 38 00:01:54,269 --> 00:01:56,236 I just felt like that was a pretty natural reaction. 39 00:01:56,304 --> 00:01:58,505 Oh, my God! 40 00:01:58,573 --> 00:02:00,674 Really quick, let me sort of point out something. 41 00:02:00,742 --> 00:02:02,443 To this side of the refrigerator... 42 00:02:04,279 --> 00:02:05,913 ...It's like these cabinets keep going, 43 00:02:05,981 --> 00:02:07,181 so somebody could actually be there 44 00:02:07,248 --> 00:02:08,349 maybe even with a fishing line. 45 00:02:08,416 --> 00:02:10,351 Oh, my God! 46 00:02:10,418 --> 00:02:12,186 It definitely meets that criteria. 47 00:02:12,253 --> 00:02:14,121 We do have the witnesses, great footage, 48 00:02:14,189 --> 00:02:15,823 and it's definitely testable. 49 00:02:15,890 --> 00:02:17,958 I do like the video, the witnesses. 50 00:02:18,026 --> 00:02:20,427 I'm not quite so sold as some of you 51 00:02:20,495 --> 00:02:22,863 to the reactions of the people, 52 00:02:22,931 --> 00:02:24,765 but why don't we see what else we have and maybe come back to it? 53 00:02:24,833 --> 00:02:26,767 Okay. Agreed, totally. 54 00:02:26,835 --> 00:02:28,702 Okay? Chi-Lan, what do you have for us? 55 00:02:28,770 --> 00:02:29,970 I have a really great video, guys, 56 00:02:30,038 --> 00:02:31,505 and it is the most phenomenal video 57 00:02:31,573 --> 00:02:33,340 I've seen in a long time. 58 00:02:33,408 --> 00:02:35,109 I can see the hole now. 59 00:02:35,176 --> 00:02:37,411 A family was vacationing in Napa Valley 60 00:02:37,479 --> 00:02:39,680 outside of Lake Barryessa, 61 00:02:39,748 --> 00:02:41,882 and they come upon this amazing vortex. 62 00:02:43,985 --> 00:02:46,286 Oh, my goodness. Isn't that amazing? 63 00:02:46,354 --> 00:02:48,122 Wow! 64 00:02:48,189 --> 00:02:51,258 Doesn't that look like it has to be from a movie? 65 00:02:51,326 --> 00:02:52,426 I've never seen anything like that before. Right! 66 00:02:52,494 --> 00:02:53,761 Neither have I. 67 00:02:53,828 --> 00:02:54,962 And I've been to Lake Barryessa, 68 00:02:55,030 --> 00:02:56,397 and I've never seen this. 69 00:02:56,464 --> 00:02:59,900 Imagine taking a boat on water when this is happening. 70 00:02:59,968 --> 00:03:02,736 To me, it almost looks like there's a structure, 71 00:03:02,804 --> 00:03:04,405 you know, underneath the water. 72 00:03:04,472 --> 00:03:08,175 You guys, I've actually seen this video before, 73 00:03:08,243 --> 00:03:09,276 and there is a natural explanation. 74 00:03:09,310 --> 00:03:10,477 This Lake Barryessa 75 00:03:10,545 --> 00:03:13,047 has one of the largest spillways in the world. 76 00:03:13,915 --> 00:03:17,017 It's actually a giant cement drain that prevents flooding. 77 00:03:17,085 --> 00:03:20,554 Ah. So when the reservoir gets too high, the spillway opens up, 78 00:03:20,622 --> 00:03:23,023 the water goes down, and that prevents flooding. 79 00:03:25,660 --> 00:03:27,661 Well, I liked it, though. It was an awesome video. 80 00:03:27,729 --> 00:03:29,430 Now, guys, what I have for you 81 00:03:29,497 --> 00:03:34,101 is one of the most historic UFO cases there ever was. 82 00:03:34,169 --> 00:03:38,005 This is the real Battle of L.A. 83 00:03:38,073 --> 00:03:39,673 So, picture this... 84 00:03:39,741 --> 00:03:41,942 February 25, 1942. 85 00:03:42,911 --> 00:03:45,345 This was just a little over two months 86 00:03:45,413 --> 00:03:47,648 since the attack on Pearl Harbor 87 00:03:47,715 --> 00:03:51,852 and five full years before Roswell in '47. 88 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,255 In the middle of the night in Los Angeles, 89 00:03:55,323 --> 00:03:58,225 all of the sudden, the military gets a radar return 90 00:03:58,293 --> 00:04:01,662 on an inbound aircraft like 120 miles offshore. 91 00:04:01,729 --> 00:04:03,397 They think they're under attack. 92 00:04:03,465 --> 00:04:05,599 So, just after 3:00 A.M., 93 00:04:05,667 --> 00:04:08,302 witnesses start hearing anti-aircraft shelling. 94 00:04:08,369 --> 00:04:12,806 And the whole scene goes chaotic. 95 00:04:12,874 --> 00:04:16,643 This is the photo that was taken by the L.A. Times 96 00:04:16,711 --> 00:04:21,381 that appeared on February 26th. Wow. 97 00:04:21,449 --> 00:04:24,151 Where the spotlights are converging, 98 00:04:24,219 --> 00:04:26,854 it looks like a saucer-shaped craft. 99 00:04:26,921 --> 00:04:28,188 Well, you know, a lot of skeptics say 100 00:04:28,256 --> 00:04:29,723 that that's just an optical illusion 101 00:04:29,791 --> 00:04:32,559 from all of the convergence of the spotlights in one spot. 102 00:04:32,627 --> 00:04:35,095 It looks like an artifact. 103 00:04:35,163 --> 00:04:37,197 Isn't this the same photograph that was used 104 00:04:37,265 --> 00:04:39,399 for public relations for "Battle: Los Angeles," 105 00:04:39,467 --> 00:04:41,468 a movie that just came out? 106 00:04:41,536 --> 00:04:43,437 Right. This movie was inspired by this event, 107 00:04:43,505 --> 00:04:45,939 and it's about an alien invasion. 108 00:04:46,007 --> 00:04:49,676 These little lights here... anti-aircraft fire. 109 00:04:51,412 --> 00:04:54,381 Over 1,440 rounds 110 00:04:54,449 --> 00:04:57,451 were fired at something in the sky. 111 00:04:57,519 --> 00:04:58,919 - What? - Geez. 112 00:04:58,987 --> 00:05:02,156 - What was it? - The air force 113 00:05:02,223 --> 00:05:03,657 released that it was just a weather balloon 114 00:05:03,725 --> 00:05:05,325 like years later 115 00:05:05,393 --> 00:05:08,262 in the '80s. I wouldn't say it's another weather balloon. 116 00:05:08,329 --> 00:05:10,497 I mean, that sounds like Roswell all over again. Right. 117 00:05:10,565 --> 00:05:11,632 What were they trying to hide? 118 00:05:11,699 --> 00:05:13,066 That's the question. 119 00:05:14,802 --> 00:05:16,937 Think about all the ways we could test this. 120 00:05:17,005 --> 00:05:18,539 I mean, you've got artillery fire... 121 00:05:18,606 --> 00:05:19,706 Searchlights... 122 00:05:19,774 --> 00:05:21,575 Machine guns. ...Machine guns. 123 00:05:21,643 --> 00:05:23,010 Well, guys, it sounds like 124 00:05:23,077 --> 00:05:24,378 we're all really excited about this case, 125 00:05:24,445 --> 00:05:25,712 so why don't we see what else we have today 126 00:05:25,780 --> 00:05:27,514 and come back to this one? 127 00:05:27,582 --> 00:05:28,515 'Cause I think it's way up there. 128 00:05:28,583 --> 00:05:30,117 Okay. Bill? 129 00:05:30,185 --> 00:05:31,685 I have a rare piece of evidence. 130 00:05:34,689 --> 00:05:38,492 An apparition recorded in 2008 aboard the Queen Mary, 131 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,260 which is docked in Long Beach, California. 132 00:05:40,328 --> 00:05:42,596 The videographer recorded this by accident. 133 00:05:42,664 --> 00:05:43,897 His name is Ryan Caudill. 134 00:05:43,965 --> 00:05:45,999 This is a camera that was just set down, 135 00:05:46,067 --> 00:05:48,035 and he didn't know it was recording, 136 00:05:48,102 --> 00:05:51,205 and it's pointed down a hallway on the promenade deck. 137 00:05:54,909 --> 00:05:57,044 Oh! Oh! Oh! 138 00:05:57,111 --> 00:05:58,045 Wow. Yeah. 139 00:05:59,547 --> 00:06:01,515 That's like a shadow figure, 140 00:06:01,583 --> 00:06:04,651 but instead of it just being shadows, it's actually white. That's a ghost. 141 00:06:04,719 --> 00:06:07,788 I mean, I shot a documentary about the haunted Queen Mary, 142 00:06:07,855 --> 00:06:10,557 and this is still the best piece of evidence 143 00:06:10,625 --> 00:06:11,491 that I've ever seen. 144 00:06:13,261 --> 00:06:14,895 I really like this case. 145 00:06:14,963 --> 00:06:16,897 It does have a lot of things we could test. 146 00:06:16,965 --> 00:06:18,232 Today we looked at a lot of cases. 147 00:06:18,299 --> 00:06:19,766 So, what do you say? 148 00:06:19,834 --> 00:06:22,302 I think the evidence we have for the Queen Mary case 149 00:06:22,370 --> 00:06:24,504 is very strong, and we have an available witness. 150 00:06:24,572 --> 00:06:26,139 I agree. It meets our criteria. 151 00:06:26,207 --> 00:06:27,307 It's definitely testable. 152 00:06:27,375 --> 00:06:29,209 If you go to Queen Mary, I'm with you. 153 00:06:29,277 --> 00:06:32,846 If we're going off popularity, 154 00:06:32,914 --> 00:06:38,051 Battle of Los Angeles is huge. 155 00:06:38,119 --> 00:06:39,686 I'll trade my video for some guns. 156 00:06:39,754 --> 00:06:41,722 All right. You want in on this machine-gun action with me? 157 00:06:41,789 --> 00:06:43,257 I want in on the Battle of L.A. 158 00:06:43,324 --> 00:06:45,092 Okay, Devin. Yes, please. 159 00:06:45,159 --> 00:06:48,362 Let's definitely lock in Battle of L.A., then, 160 00:06:48,429 --> 00:06:49,730 and, Jael, you want to come? 161 00:06:49,797 --> 00:06:50,998 Absolutely. 162 00:06:51,065 --> 00:06:52,466 All right. And you guys... 163 00:06:52,533 --> 00:06:53,667 We're locking in Queen Mary right here. 164 00:06:53,735 --> 00:06:55,569 Queen Mary. And the room is divided. 165 00:06:55,637 --> 00:06:57,337 Queen Mary it is. Guys, this is awesome. 166 00:06:57,405 --> 00:06:59,573 We've got two cases, both in Southern California. 167 00:06:59,641 --> 00:07:00,841 That's a first. It is. 168 00:07:00,908 --> 00:07:02,009 It is a first. 169 00:07:02,076 --> 00:07:04,511 Well, let's get packing. Yeah, let's do it. 170 00:07:14,222 --> 00:07:17,124 So, guys, here we are in Los Angeles, the City of Angels, 171 00:07:17,191 --> 00:07:20,527 the entertainment capital of the world, 172 00:07:20,595 --> 00:07:22,729 and the site of our next investigation. 173 00:07:22,797 --> 00:07:28,969 Now, this case has inspired articles, books, even movies 174 00:07:29,037 --> 00:07:30,837 and is still a mystery after 70 years. 175 00:07:30,905 --> 00:07:33,540 If you guys look at the photo that was taken, 176 00:07:33,608 --> 00:07:34,975 you've got eight searchlights 177 00:07:35,043 --> 00:07:37,244 trained on one mysterious object in the sky... 178 00:07:37,312 --> 00:07:39,546 And then you've got artillery fire 179 00:07:39,614 --> 00:07:42,649 exploding up all around it. 180 00:07:42,717 --> 00:07:44,818 It makes you wonder if this really was a UFO 181 00:07:44,886 --> 00:07:46,787 or if the government was trying to cover something up. 182 00:07:46,854 --> 00:07:48,622 Well, for a lot of UFO researchers, 183 00:07:48,690 --> 00:07:52,993 this case represents the ground 0, 184 00:07:53,061 --> 00:07:56,530 and it happened five years before Roswell. 185 00:07:56,597 --> 00:07:59,232 First, we need to check out the site 186 00:07:59,300 --> 00:08:01,468 where one of the original gun batteries still exists... 187 00:08:01,536 --> 00:08:03,003 Fort MacArthur. 188 00:08:03,071 --> 00:08:05,238 We'll talk to Stephen Nelson, the fort museum's curator, 189 00:08:05,306 --> 00:08:07,207 and we'll see if we can get a little bit of insight. 190 00:08:09,610 --> 00:08:13,246 So, here we are at Fort MacArthur. 191 00:08:14,182 --> 00:08:16,817 Guys, check out all this cool artillery. Wow. 192 00:08:19,754 --> 00:08:21,788 Wow. Look at that. Look at the size of that cannon. 193 00:08:24,492 --> 00:08:25,892 Hey, are you Steve? 194 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,160 I'm Steve. Ben. 195 00:08:27,228 --> 00:08:28,729 Nice to meet you, Ben. Nice to meet you. 196 00:08:28,796 --> 00:08:29,796 This is Devin and Jael. 197 00:08:29,864 --> 00:08:31,098 Hi. Hi, there. 198 00:08:31,165 --> 00:08:33,467 This is Marty Morgan, our World War II expert. 199 00:08:33,534 --> 00:08:34,735 Wow. Pleased to meet you. 200 00:08:34,802 --> 00:08:36,436 Thank you so much for having us here today. 201 00:08:36,504 --> 00:08:41,775 So, we're talking about February 25, 1942. 202 00:08:41,843 --> 00:08:44,111 We have 1,400 rounds of artillery 203 00:08:44,178 --> 00:08:46,513 shooting over a major populated city. 204 00:08:48,716 --> 00:08:52,386 - What's going on? - This was a group of soldiers 205 00:08:52,453 --> 00:08:54,121 on the ground that were looking at a sky 206 00:08:54,188 --> 00:08:56,757 that had been told, "The enemy will be in your air space tonight." 207 00:08:56,824 --> 00:09:01,995 At 2:43 A.M., they have radar contact 208 00:09:02,063 --> 00:09:03,330 with unidentified aircraft. 209 00:09:03,398 --> 00:09:07,801 At 3:06 A.M., the guns open fire. 210 00:09:07,869 --> 00:09:09,436 The next thing you know, 211 00:09:09,504 --> 00:09:11,471 over 1,000 rounds get put in the sky over L.A. 212 00:09:11,539 --> 00:09:15,475 In fact, let me show you the projectiles. 213 00:09:15,543 --> 00:09:17,744 You're talking this size shell right here. 214 00:09:17,812 --> 00:09:19,246 Yeah, feel that. 215 00:09:19,313 --> 00:09:22,482 You got 28 pounds of 3-inch shell right there. 216 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:25,152 90% of the rounds that were put in the sky that night 217 00:09:25,219 --> 00:09:28,088 were .50-caliber machine-gun cartridges, 218 00:09:28,156 --> 00:09:29,956 so that's what's in here. 219 00:09:30,024 --> 00:09:32,893 So, what do you guys think 220 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,729 was in the sky the night of the Battle of L.A.? 221 00:09:35,797 --> 00:09:38,331 There isn't one story for the evening. 222 00:09:38,399 --> 00:09:40,700 We know for sure 223 00:09:40,768 --> 00:09:43,804 that a meteorological balloon was launched. 224 00:09:43,871 --> 00:09:45,539 Well, what boggles me 225 00:09:45,606 --> 00:09:47,641 is that they have all these searchlights 226 00:09:47,708 --> 00:09:49,009 on this so-called object, 227 00:09:49,076 --> 00:09:52,412 and nobody can tell you what it was. 228 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,149 Is this one of the arc lights that was used? 229 00:09:56,217 --> 00:09:58,552 This is the same type of light 230 00:09:58,619 --> 00:10:00,620 that would have been used that night. 231 00:10:00,688 --> 00:10:03,356 So, if it was a balloon in the sky, 232 00:10:03,424 --> 00:10:05,225 what, approximately, do you think the altitude was 233 00:10:05,293 --> 00:10:06,493 of this object? 234 00:10:06,561 --> 00:10:08,328 Well, from the famous photograph 235 00:10:08,396 --> 00:10:09,763 of the Battle of Los Angeles, 236 00:10:09,831 --> 00:10:13,433 the object looks like it's about 2,000 feet in the air. 237 00:10:13,501 --> 00:10:15,101 Okay. So, we have an object, 238 00:10:15,169 --> 00:10:17,204 maybe a balloon, at 2,000 feet in the air, 239 00:10:17,271 --> 00:10:20,774 and you have a .50-caliber bullet that's firing at it. 240 00:10:20,842 --> 00:10:23,510 Why didn't they hit it? 241 00:10:23,578 --> 00:10:24,578 It's just a balloon, right? 242 00:10:27,248 --> 00:10:30,250 I don't know that I have an answer for you. 243 00:10:37,492 --> 00:10:40,660 So, now that we've seen one of the actual gun batteries, 244 00:10:40,728 --> 00:10:42,028 it's time to start running some tests 245 00:10:42,096 --> 00:10:43,830 and see if we can replicate the photo. 246 00:10:43,898 --> 00:10:46,233 I think in the desert, 247 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:48,468 we have plenty of room to do our test. 248 00:10:54,342 --> 00:10:57,577 So, our first test is the artifact test. 249 00:10:57,645 --> 00:11:00,647 An artifact is actually an optical illusion. 250 00:11:02,283 --> 00:11:05,185 Some people theorize that in this particular photo, 251 00:11:05,253 --> 00:11:07,988 what was happening is these searchlights are combining 252 00:11:08,055 --> 00:11:10,790 to create what looks like a solid object in the sky 253 00:11:10,858 --> 00:11:12,192 when there really wasn't one. 254 00:11:12,260 --> 00:11:14,528 It will be really cool once we get our lights up 255 00:11:14,595 --> 00:11:18,999 to see if we can create that same-looking solid object 256 00:11:19,066 --> 00:11:20,367 when there's really no object at all. 257 00:11:21,335 --> 00:11:24,271 And we want to do 2,000 feet in altitude. 258 00:11:24,338 --> 00:11:27,407 We can set up our lights in a half circle 2,000 feet out. 259 00:11:27,475 --> 00:11:29,476 If we angle our beams properly, 260 00:11:29,544 --> 00:11:31,978 I think we're gonna be able to converge right above this point. 261 00:11:32,046 --> 00:11:33,179 We need to get the lights out and set 262 00:11:33,247 --> 00:11:34,548 before it gets dark. 263 00:11:34,615 --> 00:11:35,815 Let's go. Great. 264 00:11:40,054 --> 00:11:43,490 Now, guys, these babies are the latest 265 00:11:43,558 --> 00:11:45,559 in portable searchlight technology. 266 00:11:45,626 --> 00:11:47,961 They have the same color temperature and luminosity 267 00:11:48,029 --> 00:11:49,863 as our World War II carbon arcs, 268 00:11:49,931 --> 00:11:51,364 except for, obviously, they're a lot smaller. 269 00:11:51,432 --> 00:11:53,199 Compact. Exactly. 270 00:11:53,267 --> 00:11:56,202 This is so much better 271 00:11:56,270 --> 00:11:58,705 because at least the two of you can handle that. 272 00:12:02,843 --> 00:12:05,045 All right, guys, got that one in place. 273 00:12:05,112 --> 00:12:06,279 Let's move on to the next one. 274 00:12:06,347 --> 00:12:07,647 So, for this test, 275 00:12:07,715 --> 00:12:09,849 we set up eight searchlights 276 00:12:09,917 --> 00:12:11,251 which are the same color and luminosity 277 00:12:11,319 --> 00:12:13,820 as what was used in 1942. 278 00:12:13,888 --> 00:12:18,091 We're going to see if we can actually create 279 00:12:18,159 --> 00:12:20,894 an artifact of a solid object, 280 00:12:20,962 --> 00:12:22,896 which could explain what was seen in the photo. 281 00:12:22,964 --> 00:12:25,498 The original camera 282 00:12:25,566 --> 00:12:27,667 used for the photograph in the Battle of L.A. 283 00:12:27,735 --> 00:12:29,536 Was a Graflex speed graphic. 284 00:12:31,572 --> 00:12:33,640 This is the modern-day equivalent. 285 00:12:33,708 --> 00:12:36,576 What we've done is attached a self-developing film pack 286 00:12:36,644 --> 00:12:38,111 to the back of it, 287 00:12:38,179 --> 00:12:40,480 which can develop a 4"x5" print 288 00:12:40,548 --> 00:12:41,748 within 60 seconds. 289 00:12:41,816 --> 00:12:45,652 All right, Jael, I'm in position. 290 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,722 Okay, we're set when you are. 291 00:12:48,789 --> 00:12:51,191 And 3... 292 00:12:51,258 --> 00:12:52,859 2... 293 00:12:52,927 --> 00:12:54,894 1. 294 00:12:54,962 --> 00:12:57,497 Illuminate artifact! 295 00:13:08,094 --> 00:13:10,962 So, our first test is the artifact test. 296 00:13:11,030 --> 00:13:12,264 We're in the middle of the desert. 297 00:13:12,331 --> 00:13:15,100 We've set up eight searchlights. 298 00:13:15,168 --> 00:13:17,903 We're going to see if we can actually create 299 00:13:17,970 --> 00:13:20,071 an artifact of a solid object, 300 00:13:20,139 --> 00:13:25,143 which could explain what was seen in the 1942 photo. 301 00:13:25,211 --> 00:13:27,546 And 3... 302 00:13:27,613 --> 00:13:29,314 2... 303 00:13:29,382 --> 00:13:31,550 1. 304 00:13:31,617 --> 00:13:33,151 Illuminate artifact! 305 00:13:36,556 --> 00:13:39,424 Oh, wow! 306 00:13:47,233 --> 00:13:48,500 - Okay. - Hey, guys. 307 00:13:48,568 --> 00:13:50,302 Hey, guys. Wow, look at that. 308 00:13:50,369 --> 00:13:52,537 Yeah, it looks pretty cool, huh? 309 00:13:52,605 --> 00:13:56,074 It looks like a giant bouquet of lightsabers. It looks pretty good. 310 00:13:56,142 --> 00:13:57,709 Tell me you got a really good shot of this. Yes. 311 00:13:57,777 --> 00:13:59,845 Get an artifact? 312 00:14:03,816 --> 00:14:05,984 Wow. 313 00:14:06,052 --> 00:14:08,186 That is definitely brighter in the center. 314 00:14:08,254 --> 00:14:12,190 However, it's really nothing 315 00:14:12,258 --> 00:14:14,359 quite like that almost disk-like shape we're seeing 316 00:14:14,427 --> 00:14:15,260 in the '42 photograph. 317 00:14:19,565 --> 00:14:22,300 And an obvious thing is the beams 318 00:14:22,368 --> 00:14:24,669 are going right through our artifact and continuing on. 319 00:14:27,106 --> 00:14:28,874 Maybe it's because of the flak. 320 00:14:28,941 --> 00:14:31,877 Yeah. There's all kinds of flak in the sky, 321 00:14:31,944 --> 00:14:34,746 anti-aircraft shells detonating around the convergence point. 322 00:14:34,814 --> 00:14:37,883 Maybe that's why the beams in the original photo are stopping. 323 00:14:39,452 --> 00:14:43,054 I would love to shoot some anti-aircraft artillery, 324 00:14:43,122 --> 00:14:45,090 but, of course, Ff.A.A. won't allow that. 325 00:14:45,157 --> 00:14:47,359 So, let's reduce the scale, 326 00:14:47,426 --> 00:14:48,894 which means to keep the same angles, 327 00:14:48,961 --> 00:14:50,996 we're gonna have to move the lights all in, as well. 328 00:14:51,063 --> 00:14:52,397 Okay. So, we'll bring everything in closer, 329 00:14:52,465 --> 00:14:55,000 moving our artifact lower, and then we shoot it. 330 00:14:55,067 --> 00:14:57,068 And then we have a war from 1942. 331 00:14:57,136 --> 00:14:58,136 You guys ready? 332 00:15:03,776 --> 00:15:05,544 If we're gonna match the original photograph, 333 00:15:05,611 --> 00:15:07,345 we need to add smoke in the sky 334 00:15:07,413 --> 00:15:08,780 to simulate the anti-aircraft shells 335 00:15:08,848 --> 00:15:10,682 detonating around the convergence point. 336 00:15:12,585 --> 00:15:15,186 We're moving all the searchlights in a little bit closer. 337 00:15:15,254 --> 00:15:17,822 We're bringing our convergence point down, 338 00:15:17,890 --> 00:15:19,591 so that way we can meet F.A.A. restrictions 339 00:15:19,659 --> 00:15:21,593 and actually fire our own flak into the sky 340 00:15:21,661 --> 00:15:23,895 and create a wall of smoke. 341 00:15:23,963 --> 00:15:27,666 All right, Jael, all the lights are in place. 342 00:15:27,733 --> 00:15:29,000 Yes, I see that. 343 00:15:29,068 --> 00:15:30,969 And you guys are ready to go with your big guns. 344 00:15:32,204 --> 00:15:35,206 We've got this grenade launcher. 345 00:15:39,579 --> 00:15:41,313 And we have a shotgun. We're shooting bird bombs. 346 00:15:44,317 --> 00:15:46,151 So, this is gonna put that smoke up in the sky. 347 00:15:46,218 --> 00:15:48,553 It'll give us a more defined artifact in the middle. 348 00:15:48,621 --> 00:15:49,421 All right. Good luck, guys. 349 00:16:00,499 --> 00:16:01,866 Standing by! 350 00:16:01,934 --> 00:16:03,301 And 3... 351 00:16:06,906 --> 00:16:08,039 ...2... 352 00:16:09,442 --> 00:16:12,477 ...1. 353 00:16:12,545 --> 00:16:14,112 - Open fire! - Firing! 354 00:16:30,396 --> 00:16:31,896 Cease fire. 355 00:16:31,964 --> 00:16:33,064 Cease fire. 356 00:16:33,132 --> 00:16:34,532 Whoo! 357 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,835 Let's see. 358 00:16:40,106 --> 00:16:44,509 It captured every single one of those explosions. 359 00:16:44,577 --> 00:16:46,711 But we do still have that problem 360 00:16:46,779 --> 00:16:50,248 where the beams of light are passing through the point. 361 00:16:52,518 --> 00:16:54,719 You're right. The lights pass right through. 362 00:16:54,787 --> 00:16:58,423 Guys, as you know, in 1983, the air force's explanation 363 00:16:58,491 --> 00:17:00,225 was that this was a weather balloon. 364 00:17:00,292 --> 00:17:01,726 We need to put this to the test 365 00:17:01,794 --> 00:17:04,562 to see if it's even possible such an object would make, 366 00:17:04,630 --> 00:17:06,498 you know, an artifact like we're seeing here. 367 00:17:06,565 --> 00:17:09,801 A weather balloon could potentially stop those beams 368 00:17:09,869 --> 00:17:11,302 right at the convergence point 369 00:17:11,370 --> 00:17:13,071 rather than having them push through. 370 00:17:13,139 --> 00:17:15,473 That on top of some smoke in the sky. 371 00:17:15,541 --> 00:17:17,242 We need more war. 372 00:17:17,309 --> 00:17:18,276 Yes, next test. 373 00:17:25,751 --> 00:17:28,119 So, we have a latex rubber balloon 374 00:17:28,187 --> 00:17:29,521 which is made of the same materials 375 00:17:29,588 --> 00:17:31,423 and the same type of weather balloon 376 00:17:31,490 --> 00:17:33,224 that they would have had in 1942. 377 00:17:33,292 --> 00:17:36,861 We have a spindle of 200 feet of parachute wire. 378 00:17:36,929 --> 00:17:38,630 We attach the weather balloon, 379 00:17:38,698 --> 00:17:41,900 we slowly let it out, 380 00:17:41,967 --> 00:17:44,335 and then we shoot around the balloon. 381 00:17:44,403 --> 00:17:46,371 We're gonna see what it looks like. 382 00:17:51,711 --> 00:17:54,946 All right, Jael, we are loaded, and we are ready! 383 00:17:55,014 --> 00:17:56,114 Roger that. 384 00:17:56,182 --> 00:17:57,816 I'm gonna count you down. 385 00:17:57,883 --> 00:17:58,850 And 3... 386 00:18:00,619 --> 00:18:02,620 ...2... 387 00:18:02,688 --> 00:18:05,190 1. 388 00:18:05,257 --> 00:18:06,758 Fire! 389 00:18:16,878 --> 00:18:19,747 So, we have a latex rubber balloon 390 00:18:19,814 --> 00:18:20,948 which is made of the same materials 391 00:18:21,016 --> 00:18:22,650 that they would have had in 1942. 392 00:18:23,786 --> 00:18:26,054 We slowly let it out, 393 00:18:26,121 --> 00:18:27,855 and then we shoot around the balloon, 394 00:18:27,923 --> 00:18:30,325 and we're gonna see what it looks like. 395 00:18:30,392 --> 00:18:31,793 And 3... 396 00:18:33,562 --> 00:18:35,563 ...2... 397 00:18:35,631 --> 00:18:38,132 1. 398 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,400 Fire! 399 00:18:49,478 --> 00:18:52,013 - Whoo! - Yeah! 400 00:18:52,081 --> 00:18:54,182 That was great! 401 00:18:54,249 --> 00:18:58,653 The weather balloon is just completely glowing. 402 00:18:58,721 --> 00:19:01,956 Yeah. You know what else I love about this, guys? 403 00:19:02,024 --> 00:19:03,758 The smoke and the balloon... 404 00:19:03,826 --> 00:19:06,461 It seems to actually have stopped some of those beams 405 00:19:06,528 --> 00:19:07,495 from going through. 406 00:19:07,563 --> 00:19:10,331 There are a faint couple 407 00:19:10,399 --> 00:19:13,067 that are still pushing through there, but it's better. 408 00:19:13,135 --> 00:19:16,037 The question is 409 00:19:16,105 --> 00:19:18,673 how did these guys not get this thing down 410 00:19:18,741 --> 00:19:22,710 after 1,440 rounds of fire? 411 00:19:22,778 --> 00:19:24,779 Let's say they hit it with at least one bullet. 412 00:19:24,847 --> 00:19:27,015 How long did it take for it to come down? 413 00:19:27,082 --> 00:19:28,649 I think that we should just shoot this thing 414 00:19:28,717 --> 00:19:29,884 and see what happens. 415 00:19:29,952 --> 00:19:31,519 You want to see my true marksmanship now, 416 00:19:31,587 --> 00:19:32,787 is what you're saying. Yes! 417 00:19:32,855 --> 00:19:34,022 You want to see what I can do. 418 00:19:34,089 --> 00:19:34,822 Yes. Okay. 419 00:19:39,194 --> 00:19:41,295 So, our weather-balloon test confirms 420 00:19:41,363 --> 00:19:43,965 that the combination of searchlights... 421 00:19:44,033 --> 00:19:45,533 Smoke... 422 00:19:45,601 --> 00:19:48,102 And an 8-foot weather balloon 423 00:19:48,170 --> 00:19:51,539 come a lot closer to matching the original photograph. 424 00:19:53,709 --> 00:19:57,712 However, those lights that were not blocked by that balloon 425 00:19:57,780 --> 00:20:00,181 continued right on through the convergence point. 426 00:20:00,249 --> 00:20:02,884 Therefore, it wasn't an exact match. 427 00:20:02,951 --> 00:20:05,753 Our World War II expert said 428 00:20:05,821 --> 00:20:09,090 that of the 1,440 rounds that were shot that night, 429 00:20:09,158 --> 00:20:12,260 the majority were .50-caliber. 430 00:20:13,796 --> 00:20:16,731 I'm going to take a .50-caliber machine gun, 431 00:20:16,799 --> 00:20:18,533 and I'm going to shoot at this weather balloon 432 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,302 to see what happens and how fast it will come down. 433 00:20:24,506 --> 00:20:27,742 Oh, my God. 434 00:20:27,810 --> 00:20:31,913 This is an actual .50-caliber machine gun... 435 00:20:34,983 --> 00:20:38,052 ...The same type that was used in 1942. 436 00:20:42,057 --> 00:20:44,792 Now, we know a .50-caliber round 437 00:20:44,860 --> 00:20:46,127 is eventually going to bring a balloon down. 438 00:20:46,195 --> 00:20:47,562 What we want to know is how. 439 00:20:50,265 --> 00:20:51,499 This is Howard. 440 00:20:51,567 --> 00:20:53,267 He's our weapons specialist. 441 00:20:53,335 --> 00:20:55,503 And what we've done is mounted this on this lift, 442 00:20:55,571 --> 00:20:59,207 and I'll be taking this up 50 feet in the air, 443 00:20:59,274 --> 00:21:01,976 shooting from about 600 feet away, 444 00:21:02,044 --> 00:21:04,145 and we'll see what happens. 445 00:21:04,213 --> 00:21:07,215 The really big thing about this test, you guys, 446 00:21:07,282 --> 00:21:09,317 is that whether or not this balloon is gonna pop or not 447 00:21:09,384 --> 00:21:10,551 or if it's gonna deflate. 448 00:21:10,619 --> 00:21:11,986 So, I've got a stopwatch here. 449 00:21:12,054 --> 00:21:13,821 We'll be able to time how long it takes the balloon 450 00:21:13,889 --> 00:21:15,957 to drop from 40 feet down to the ground. 451 00:21:16,024 --> 00:21:18,426 We'll be able to calculate using those numbers 452 00:21:18,494 --> 00:21:20,728 how long it would have taken in the original photograph 453 00:21:20,796 --> 00:21:21,829 for the balloon to drop. 454 00:21:21,897 --> 00:21:24,132 Ben, this is your bad-ass moment. 455 00:21:24,199 --> 00:21:25,900 Do it. 456 00:21:41,650 --> 00:21:43,351 3... 457 00:21:43,418 --> 00:21:46,120 2... 458 00:21:46,188 --> 00:21:48,222 1! 459 00:21:54,129 --> 00:21:56,097 Whoa! 460 00:21:56,165 --> 00:22:00,868 Coming up on "Fact or Fake: Paranormal Files"... 461 00:22:00,936 --> 00:22:03,204 Maybe this was a UFO. Oh, yes. 462 00:22:03,272 --> 00:22:04,605 The Queen Mary is considered 463 00:22:04,673 --> 00:22:06,908 one of the most haunted locations in the world. 464 00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:11,312 Phantom. 465 00:22:11,380 --> 00:22:13,514 There is it. It is moving. 466 00:22:13,582 --> 00:22:15,349 It looks like two eyes. 467 00:22:27,676 --> 00:22:31,079 This is an actual .50-caliber machine gun, 468 00:22:31,146 --> 00:22:34,082 the same type that was used in 1942. 469 00:22:37,786 --> 00:22:39,487 3... 470 00:22:39,555 --> 00:22:42,256 2... 471 00:22:42,324 --> 00:22:44,358 1! 472 00:22:49,498 --> 00:22:52,100 Whoa! 473 00:22:54,670 --> 00:22:57,205 Ben, I still have an adrenaline rush. 474 00:22:57,272 --> 00:22:58,639 So much fun. 475 00:22:58,707 --> 00:23:00,541 So, you remember the Battle of L.A. 476 00:23:00,609 --> 00:23:03,511 Now, the only known photograph of the event 477 00:23:03,579 --> 00:23:05,046 depicts some type of object. 478 00:23:05,114 --> 00:23:07,949 It looks like a saucer shape 479 00:23:08,016 --> 00:23:10,651 that's sitting in the convergence of eight spotlights. 480 00:23:10,719 --> 00:23:13,688 Now, one of the theories is that the object in the sky 481 00:23:13,755 --> 00:23:15,223 is an optical illusion, 482 00:23:15,290 --> 00:23:17,058 what they're calling an artifact. 483 00:23:17,126 --> 00:23:19,494 We took eight high-powered spotlights, 484 00:23:19,561 --> 00:23:21,662 and they converged at about 2,000 feet in the sky. 485 00:23:21,730 --> 00:23:23,431 And this is what that looked like. 486 00:23:25,868 --> 00:23:27,401 Oh, wow. Nice. There you go. 487 00:23:30,239 --> 00:23:32,573 It did create somewhat of a slight artifact, 488 00:23:32,641 --> 00:23:35,243 but the beams passed straight on through the convergence point. 489 00:23:36,044 --> 00:23:38,312 After our first test, we realized the searchlights 490 00:23:38,380 --> 00:23:39,547 in the original photo 491 00:23:39,615 --> 00:23:41,249 are illuminating the smoke from the explosions. 492 00:23:43,418 --> 00:23:45,620 So, this is the Battle of L.A., right? 493 00:23:45,687 --> 00:23:47,555 We decided to create our own battle. 494 00:23:47,623 --> 00:23:50,458 We brought in 12-gauge shotguns 495 00:23:50,526 --> 00:23:52,260 and 40-millimeter grenade launchers 496 00:23:52,327 --> 00:23:53,728 shooting pyrotechnic shells. 497 00:23:56,431 --> 00:23:57,498 Oh, yes! 498 00:24:00,068 --> 00:24:01,536 As you can see, Ben and Devin 499 00:24:01,603 --> 00:24:02,970 definitely had quite a war. 500 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,308 So, seeing that with this test, we still had the problem 501 00:24:07,376 --> 00:24:09,177 with the beams going past the convergence point, 502 00:24:09,244 --> 00:24:12,280 we decided to test that it's just a weather balloon. 503 00:24:12,347 --> 00:24:15,550 We floated an 8-foot weather balloon into the sky, 504 00:24:15,617 --> 00:24:17,118 fired at it, 505 00:24:17,186 --> 00:24:18,619 and we took another photo to see what it looked like it. 506 00:24:18,687 --> 00:24:20,354 Yeah, you did. Let's see it. 507 00:24:23,458 --> 00:24:25,226 Now, just the very fact 508 00:24:25,294 --> 00:24:28,262 that we're aiming these spotlights at the balloon 509 00:24:28,330 --> 00:24:29,764 made it very reflective. 510 00:24:29,831 --> 00:24:33,201 The smoke did a pretty good job of blocking off 511 00:24:33,268 --> 00:24:35,336 a lot more of those lights from passing through. 512 00:24:35,404 --> 00:24:39,774 So, we decided, "Well, what if this was a weather balloon?" 513 00:24:39,841 --> 00:24:42,677 How could a weather balloon stay in the sky 514 00:24:42,744 --> 00:24:45,813 after 1,440 rounds were shot at it? 515 00:24:45,881 --> 00:24:47,315 So, the only way to get an answer 516 00:24:47,382 --> 00:24:48,549 was to test it for ourselves. 517 00:25:05,167 --> 00:25:07,034 Whoa! 518 00:25:09,004 --> 00:25:10,304 - Right? - Wow. 519 00:25:10,372 --> 00:25:12,073 All right. So, you guys, I timed how long it would take 520 00:25:12,140 --> 00:25:14,675 for the balloon to hit the ground once it was shot, 521 00:25:14,743 --> 00:25:16,444 and it took 3.7 seconds... 522 00:25:19,815 --> 00:25:21,882 ...Which means that even if a balloon 523 00:25:21,950 --> 00:25:24,485 was all the way up at 8,000 feet and it was hit, 524 00:25:24,553 --> 00:25:25,987 it would have taken a matter of minutes 525 00:25:26,054 --> 00:25:27,588 for it to come to the ground. 526 00:25:27,656 --> 00:25:29,223 It wouldn't have been a balloon with a hole in it, 527 00:25:29,291 --> 00:25:32,360 slowly deflating all the way down the coast. 528 00:25:32,427 --> 00:25:34,395 If a weather balloon is that easy to shoot down, 529 00:25:34,463 --> 00:25:37,031 it causes me to question the official air force report. 530 00:25:37,099 --> 00:25:39,567 You have all these highly trained soldiers, 531 00:25:39,635 --> 00:25:41,035 and they shoot off over 1,400 rounds, 532 00:25:41,103 --> 00:25:43,638 and there's no reports of debris. 533 00:25:43,705 --> 00:25:45,072 Maybe this was a UFO. 534 00:25:45,140 --> 00:25:46,207 Which would be more than enough reason 535 00:25:46,275 --> 00:25:47,908 to cover the whole thing up. 536 00:25:47,976 --> 00:25:50,444 But there's another possibility. 537 00:25:50,512 --> 00:25:51,812 One of the other theories 538 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,281 was that there was a barrage balloon. 539 00:25:53,348 --> 00:25:55,149 Now, these were big, kind of blimp balloons, 540 00:25:55,217 --> 00:25:57,118 100 feet sometimes in length, 541 00:25:57,185 --> 00:25:59,420 that were put over factories 542 00:25:59,488 --> 00:26:01,188 so that if enemy aircraft came in, 543 00:26:01,256 --> 00:26:02,923 they'd get all tangled up in the balloon. 544 00:26:02,991 --> 00:26:04,959 It would make it difficult for them to bomb. 545 00:26:05,027 --> 00:26:06,560 Now, there is some information 546 00:26:06,628 --> 00:26:11,899 that, possibly, one of these balloons got loose. 547 00:26:11,967 --> 00:26:13,167 This is what it looks like. 548 00:26:16,171 --> 00:26:18,706 Here's your big, silver object right there. 549 00:26:18,774 --> 00:26:20,508 That does make sense. 550 00:26:20,575 --> 00:26:23,110 So, Pearl Harbor just happened. 551 00:26:23,178 --> 00:26:24,378 The military is on high alert, 552 00:26:24,446 --> 00:26:26,113 and somebody mistakes a barrage balloon 553 00:26:26,181 --> 00:26:27,815 for an enemy aircraft. 554 00:26:27,883 --> 00:26:29,317 The problem is, you guys, 555 00:26:29,384 --> 00:26:31,319 is that it's still just a big balloon. 556 00:26:31,386 --> 00:26:32,620 They should have been able to bring it down. 557 00:26:32,688 --> 00:26:34,522 That's a good point. 558 00:26:34,589 --> 00:26:38,492 Well, I think you guys did an amazing job 559 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,094 at showing what this photo was not. 560 00:26:40,162 --> 00:26:42,363 It was not an artifact, 561 00:26:42,431 --> 00:26:44,765 - and it was not a weather balloon. - Right. 562 00:26:44,833 --> 00:26:46,667 I believe there was an object in the sky. 563 00:26:46,735 --> 00:26:48,369 Now, we ruled a lot of things out, 564 00:26:48,437 --> 00:26:50,938 but for all intents and purposes, it's still a mystery. 565 00:26:59,648 --> 00:27:02,650 So, let's hear what happened with you guys. 566 00:27:02,718 --> 00:27:05,219 Well, as you'll recall, we went down to Long Beach 567 00:27:05,287 --> 00:27:06,854 to investigate the possible hauntings 568 00:27:06,922 --> 00:27:07,722 on the Queen Mary. 569 00:27:10,292 --> 00:27:11,959 We ran a series of tests, 570 00:27:12,027 --> 00:27:13,828 and we got some interesting results. 571 00:27:31,313 --> 00:27:33,647 With a long history of ghostly legends, 572 00:27:33,715 --> 00:27:35,883 the Queen Mary is considered 573 00:27:35,951 --> 00:27:39,120 one of the most haunted locations in the world. 574 00:27:39,187 --> 00:27:41,555 You know it was originally used as a cruise ship 575 00:27:41,623 --> 00:27:44,024 for the world's rich and famous that traveled along the Atlantic? 576 00:27:44,092 --> 00:27:45,426 That's right, and in 1939, 577 00:27:45,494 --> 00:27:46,660 when World War II broke out, 578 00:27:46,728 --> 00:27:48,229 she was actually put into active duty 579 00:27:48,296 --> 00:27:50,531 and transported over 800,000 troops. 580 00:27:50,599 --> 00:27:54,068 As a matter of fact, during World War II, 581 00:27:54,136 --> 00:27:55,870 the Queen Mary was painted grey 582 00:27:55,937 --> 00:27:57,705 and became known as the grey ghost, 583 00:27:57,773 --> 00:28:01,976 because Hitler's u-boats had a bounty to sink the ship, 584 00:28:02,043 --> 00:28:04,011 obviously without success. 585 00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:06,347 Within the last 60 years, 586 00:28:06,415 --> 00:28:08,482 49 people have died on the Queen Mary. 587 00:28:08,550 --> 00:28:11,585 And in 2008, actually, one of the visitors, 588 00:28:11,653 --> 00:28:14,021 Ryan Caudill, caught what he believes 589 00:28:14,089 --> 00:28:15,856 is a ghostly manifestation on the Queen Mary. 590 00:28:21,797 --> 00:28:23,230 We're gonna start off by getting a tour 591 00:28:23,298 --> 00:28:26,801 with resident Queen Mary paranormal expert Pat Wheelock. 592 00:28:26,868 --> 00:28:28,335 I've heard some pretty creepy things happen 593 00:28:28,403 --> 00:28:29,837 when the sun goes down. 594 00:28:29,905 --> 00:28:31,772 Anchors aweigh, everybody. 595 00:28:37,813 --> 00:28:40,414 Chi-Lan, Austin. 596 00:28:40,482 --> 00:28:41,649 Hi. How are you? Pat Wheelock. 597 00:28:41,716 --> 00:28:43,851 Welcome aboard. It's good to be here. 598 00:28:43,919 --> 00:28:45,352 You all ready to go on the tour? We are. 599 00:28:45,420 --> 00:28:46,654 Let's head on. All right, let's do it. 600 00:28:46,721 --> 00:28:47,988 Okay. 601 00:28:50,725 --> 00:28:53,160 Whoa. 602 00:29:01,436 --> 00:29:03,737 So, this is the pool. 603 00:29:03,805 --> 00:29:06,841 This is the first- and third-class pool. 604 00:29:06,908 --> 00:29:09,109 And this place looks really, really creepy, 605 00:29:09,177 --> 00:29:11,212 I have to tell you. 606 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:14,648 And you said this is one of the hottest spots in the ship 607 00:29:14,716 --> 00:29:16,717 for reoccurring phenomenons? 608 00:29:16,785 --> 00:29:18,152 Oh, we get it almost daily... 609 00:29:18,220 --> 00:29:21,322 People reporting hearing a child giggle 610 00:29:21,389 --> 00:29:23,090 or shadows of people walking around. 611 00:29:28,897 --> 00:29:30,264 Let's head on back to the changing-room area. 612 00:29:30,332 --> 00:29:31,599 Okay. 613 00:29:31,666 --> 00:29:33,033 That's down this hall, right? Uh-huh. 614 00:29:35,470 --> 00:29:37,771 The claim is 615 00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:40,274 that, actually, where you all are standing, 616 00:29:40,342 --> 00:29:42,510 you're in the middle of a vortex. 617 00:29:45,747 --> 00:29:47,882 Why is this the vortex? People get dizzy. 618 00:29:47,949 --> 00:29:50,384 They feel that it's a passageway through 619 00:29:50,452 --> 00:29:52,586 to another realm or another world. 620 00:29:52,654 --> 00:29:53,787 Got it. Okay. 621 00:29:53,855 --> 00:29:55,589 So, it can be disorienting? Exactly. 622 00:29:57,626 --> 00:29:59,260 Back this way. Okay. 623 00:29:59,327 --> 00:30:01,795 We have our work cut out for us. 624 00:30:06,835 --> 00:30:09,670 Now that we know more about the Queen Mary's history, 625 00:30:09,738 --> 00:30:12,273 we're headed to talk to Ryan, the videographer. 626 00:30:12,340 --> 00:30:14,775 Hey, you must be Ryan. 627 00:30:14,843 --> 00:30:16,610 I am. How you doing? 628 00:30:16,678 --> 00:30:17,912 So, what happened that night? 629 00:30:17,979 --> 00:30:21,315 Well, I was down here with a couple friends, 630 00:30:21,383 --> 00:30:22,783 and we were up here at the bar, 631 00:30:22,851 --> 00:30:24,818 just playing around with the camera, 632 00:30:24,886 --> 00:30:26,120 and we stepped out for a moment, 633 00:30:26,187 --> 00:30:28,122 and we left the camera on the windowsill. 634 00:30:34,029 --> 00:30:36,697 So, you can say with 100% certainty 635 00:30:36,765 --> 00:30:39,233 that you don't believe either you were hoaxed 636 00:30:39,301 --> 00:30:40,768 or have been part of a hoax? 637 00:30:40,835 --> 00:30:42,870 It was not a hoax. 638 00:30:42,938 --> 00:30:44,305 Would you mind retracing the exact steps 639 00:30:44,372 --> 00:30:45,973 that you went through that night 640 00:30:46,041 --> 00:30:48,208 - so we can kind of see exactly what happened? - Absolutely. 641 00:30:48,276 --> 00:30:49,543 Great. Lead the way. Sure. 642 00:30:55,283 --> 00:30:57,217 So, this is the hallway 643 00:30:57,285 --> 00:30:59,420 that you were able to capture the ghostly apparition. 644 00:30:59,487 --> 00:31:01,155 This is it. Wow. 645 00:31:03,625 --> 00:31:07,761 And this is where I set the camera down. 646 00:31:12,634 --> 00:31:14,868 Now, Ryan, there's these glass cabinets here. 647 00:31:14,936 --> 00:31:16,537 Is it possible that you set it 648 00:31:16,605 --> 00:31:18,272 behind one of the glass cabinets 649 00:31:18,340 --> 00:31:19,440 and you were shooting through it? 650 00:31:19,507 --> 00:31:21,442 You know what? 651 00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:23,177 I don't remember these cabinets even being here. 652 00:31:23,244 --> 00:31:24,745 Well, like, right now, 653 00:31:24,813 --> 00:31:26,480 both these two outside doors are open, 654 00:31:26,548 --> 00:31:28,115 allowing the outside air to come in. 655 00:31:28,183 --> 00:31:30,050 Do you remember if they were open that night? 656 00:31:30,118 --> 00:31:31,251 Yes. They were? 657 00:31:31,319 --> 00:31:32,119 Well, that door was open. 658 00:31:34,723 --> 00:31:36,757 Now, did you actually bring the original camera? 659 00:31:36,825 --> 00:31:38,325 We always like to do some experiments 660 00:31:38,393 --> 00:31:39,793 and hopefully use the same equipment. 661 00:31:39,861 --> 00:31:41,328 I-I absolutely did. Here. 662 00:31:41,396 --> 00:31:43,764 Well, thank you so much 663 00:31:43,832 --> 00:31:45,265 for taking the time to meet with us, 664 00:31:45,333 --> 00:31:46,467 and we'll let you know if we find anything. 665 00:31:46,534 --> 00:31:48,235 Thanks for the camera. Absolutely. 666 00:31:52,707 --> 00:31:54,608 One of the most popular theories 667 00:31:54,676 --> 00:31:56,543 of what Ryan captured on video 668 00:31:56,611 --> 00:31:57,578 is that it's shadows. 669 00:31:57,646 --> 00:31:59,847 But it doesn't actually account 670 00:31:59,914 --> 00:32:02,082 for what we're seeing in the beginning of the video, 671 00:32:02,150 --> 00:32:05,486 which is a very clear-cut, white apparition 672 00:32:05,553 --> 00:32:07,021 in the center of the hallway. 673 00:32:07,088 --> 00:32:08,155 Shadows don't exist like that. 674 00:32:13,762 --> 00:32:15,095 So, what we're gonna do now 675 00:32:15,163 --> 00:32:16,397 is we're gonna perform an experiment 676 00:32:16,464 --> 00:32:19,033 that incorporates the environmental elements, 677 00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:20,834 such as the fog that you see outside. 678 00:32:20,902 --> 00:32:25,239 We can actually project things onto that fog 679 00:32:25,306 --> 00:32:26,874 and hopefully create the white apparition 680 00:32:26,941 --> 00:32:28,442 that we're seeing in Ryan's video. 681 00:32:33,314 --> 00:32:36,450 We basically need to make a mini movie 682 00:32:36,518 --> 00:32:39,319 so we have something to project. 683 00:32:39,387 --> 00:32:43,057 Chi-Lan's gonna film me against a black backdrop, 684 00:32:43,124 --> 00:32:45,059 and I'll walk the same pattern 685 00:32:45,126 --> 00:32:46,527 as the ghostly apparition in the video. 686 00:32:49,731 --> 00:32:52,499 Good job, ghost. High five. 687 00:32:52,567 --> 00:32:53,867 Rock 'n' roll with that walk. 688 00:32:53,935 --> 00:32:55,803 Once we get the footage we need, 689 00:32:55,870 --> 00:32:57,638 we're just gonna load it into the projector 690 00:32:57,706 --> 00:32:59,907 and project it down the hallway on the haze. 691 00:32:59,974 --> 00:33:02,009 Hopefully this will replicate the original footage. 692 00:33:05,046 --> 00:33:06,647 What we're gonna do now 693 00:33:06,715 --> 00:33:09,650 is use a haze machine 694 00:33:09,718 --> 00:33:11,485 to add to the humidity in the hallway. 695 00:33:21,930 --> 00:33:24,398 Hey, guys, you can see the haze in the hall. 696 00:33:26,534 --> 00:33:27,801 You guys ready to start this experiment? 697 00:33:27,869 --> 00:33:29,837 On 3... 698 00:33:29,904 --> 00:33:31,472 2... 699 00:33:31,539 --> 00:33:33,240 1. 700 00:33:33,308 --> 00:33:34,708 Phantom. 701 00:33:42,490 --> 00:33:44,290 So, what we're gonna do now 702 00:33:44,358 --> 00:33:46,526 is we're gonna perform an experiment 703 00:33:46,594 --> 00:33:49,295 that incorporates the environmental elements, 704 00:33:49,363 --> 00:33:52,532 such as the fog that you see outside. 705 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,001 We can actually project things onto that fog 706 00:33:55,069 --> 00:33:56,403 and hopefully create the white apparition 707 00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:58,672 that we're seeing in Ryan's video. 708 00:34:01,909 --> 00:34:04,244 On 3... 709 00:34:04,311 --> 00:34:05,879 2... 710 00:34:05,946 --> 00:34:07,614 1. 711 00:34:07,682 --> 00:34:11,084 Phantom. 712 00:34:11,152 --> 00:34:12,686 Wow! 713 00:34:12,753 --> 00:34:13,687 Look at that. 714 00:34:18,059 --> 00:34:19,092 That looks creepy. 715 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,093 It actually does work. 716 00:34:20,161 --> 00:34:21,528 Wow. 717 00:34:24,098 --> 00:34:27,734 It actually looks really similar. 718 00:34:30,337 --> 00:34:31,671 We're seeing the light 719 00:34:31,739 --> 00:34:33,773 actually shoot from the projector. 720 00:34:33,841 --> 00:34:36,776 That is the problem. 721 00:34:36,844 --> 00:34:39,579 You can see the beam of the projector. 722 00:34:39,647 --> 00:34:43,817 We were able to create a similar moving image, 723 00:34:43,884 --> 00:34:45,852 but once the haze filled up the hallway, 724 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,555 you could clearly see that it was simply a projection. 725 00:34:48,622 --> 00:34:52,726 The fact that those glass cases were in the hallway 726 00:34:52,793 --> 00:34:54,494 gave us an idea... 727 00:34:54,562 --> 00:34:58,031 That Ryan's video was simply an optical illusion. 728 00:35:03,370 --> 00:35:04,604 In our next experiment, 729 00:35:04,672 --> 00:35:07,240 we're gonna attempt to manipulate perception. 730 00:35:07,308 --> 00:35:08,975 And the way that we're gonna do that 731 00:35:09,043 --> 00:35:11,644 is actually just use this presidential-style teleprompter. 732 00:35:11,712 --> 00:35:16,182 I put the camera about a foot away from it. 733 00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:17,383 We're gonna project Austin's image 734 00:35:17,451 --> 00:35:19,152 that we recorded earlier, 735 00:35:19,220 --> 00:35:22,689 superimposing him on top of the hallway. 736 00:35:22,757 --> 00:35:24,257 It should match pretty close 737 00:35:24,325 --> 00:35:25,625 to what we're seeing in Ryan's video. 738 00:35:29,697 --> 00:35:30,597 Okay, on 3... 739 00:35:31,766 --> 00:35:33,399 ...2... 740 00:35:33,467 --> 00:35:34,300 1. 741 00:35:36,203 --> 00:35:37,070 Play video. 742 00:35:40,441 --> 00:35:41,741 Hey, hey. There you are. 743 00:35:41,809 --> 00:35:42,876 Oh, wow. 744 00:35:42,943 --> 00:35:44,043 How's it working? 745 00:35:44,111 --> 00:35:45,612 This is awesome. 746 00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:47,313 It looks pretty close. 747 00:35:47,381 --> 00:35:48,481 It really looks ghostly. 748 00:35:48,549 --> 00:35:49,883 You have a transparency, 749 00:35:49,950 --> 00:35:52,819 and you're walking like the guy in the video. 750 00:35:56,590 --> 00:35:59,192 So, this is almost like proof of concept... 751 00:35:59,260 --> 00:36:02,095 that by using reflective surfaces, 752 00:36:02,163 --> 00:36:03,496 it is possible 753 00:36:03,564 --> 00:36:06,499 that maybe this is how Ryan's video was created. 754 00:36:06,567 --> 00:36:08,668 Yeah. I think that we found a great way to hoax these videos. 755 00:36:11,205 --> 00:36:13,072 Now that we've done the forced perspective test 756 00:36:13,140 --> 00:36:14,908 and we can see that the video can be hoaxed, 757 00:36:14,975 --> 00:36:17,944 we still have to consider the long history of the Queen Mary. 758 00:36:20,414 --> 00:36:22,382 There have been so many eyewitness accounts 759 00:36:22,449 --> 00:36:23,883 of paranormal activity, 760 00:36:23,951 --> 00:36:25,885 so we're gonna go ahead and do a night investigation. 761 00:36:31,959 --> 00:36:33,793 All the cameras are set up. 762 00:36:33,861 --> 00:36:34,994 Yeah, we're ready to go. 763 00:36:35,062 --> 00:36:38,264 Changing room, ballroom. 764 00:36:38,332 --> 00:36:40,567 Boiler room, deck, 765 00:36:40,634 --> 00:36:42,702 and, of course, where Ryan Caudill shot his footage. 766 00:36:42,770 --> 00:36:45,972 All right, guys. I'm gonna bring my DSLR for stills. 767 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,041 I'm also gonna check the thermal cam, 768 00:36:48,108 --> 00:36:50,009 see if there are any unusual heat signatures on the ship. 769 00:36:50,077 --> 00:36:51,411 Sounds good. 770 00:36:51,478 --> 00:36:53,513 Flashlight. Very handy. 771 00:36:53,581 --> 00:36:55,648 You guys ready to go green? All right. 772 00:37:18,138 --> 00:37:19,772 Right now, I am on top of the bridge 773 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,008 that is over the boiler room, 774 00:37:22,076 --> 00:37:25,378 and I am scanning the room 775 00:37:25,446 --> 00:37:28,248 for any unusual heat signatures. 776 00:37:39,994 --> 00:37:42,328 Bill to Austin. 777 00:37:42,396 --> 00:37:44,197 Austin for Bill. 778 00:37:44,265 --> 00:37:45,965 I'm gonna have an EVP session 779 00:37:46,033 --> 00:37:47,467 in the changing room 780 00:37:47,534 --> 00:37:50,303 where the vortex has been reported. 781 00:37:50,371 --> 00:37:51,571 Copy that. 782 00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:55,742 We're now setting up audio recorders 783 00:37:55,809 --> 00:38:00,079 to record electronic voice phenomena. 784 00:38:00,147 --> 00:38:01,881 This is Bill. 785 00:38:01,949 --> 00:38:04,784 I'm on the Queen Mary. 786 00:38:04,852 --> 00:38:06,152 I'm here to learn from you. 787 00:38:08,622 --> 00:38:12,792 Is there a message that you would like to deliver 788 00:38:12,860 --> 00:38:14,227 to the people who visit the Queen Mary? 789 00:38:21,669 --> 00:38:23,136 Whoa. Did you see that? 790 00:38:33,047 --> 00:38:36,049 Now that we can see that the video can be hoaxed, 791 00:38:36,116 --> 00:38:39,285 we still have to consider the long history of the Queen Mary. 792 00:38:39,353 --> 00:38:41,020 There have been so many eyewitness accounts 793 00:38:41,088 --> 00:38:42,822 of paranormal activity, 794 00:38:42,890 --> 00:38:44,791 so we're gonna go ahead and do a night investigation. 795 00:38:47,428 --> 00:38:51,497 I am scanning the room for any unusual heat signatures. 796 00:38:55,269 --> 00:38:56,636 Whoa. Did you see that? 797 00:38:58,505 --> 00:39:02,342 I'm catching some type of heat signature, and it is moving, 798 00:39:02,409 --> 00:39:04,510 but I don't see anything with the naked eye. 799 00:39:07,181 --> 00:39:08,514 If it's one of the sailors 800 00:39:08,582 --> 00:39:10,016 or if it's one of the passengers 801 00:39:10,084 --> 00:39:14,053 that was once aboard the Queen Mary, 802 00:39:14,121 --> 00:39:15,922 we'd like to able to learn from you. 803 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,262 I just heard, like, a creak, 804 00:39:22,329 --> 00:39:26,466 or maybe that was a groan. 805 00:39:26,533 --> 00:39:29,335 Could you leave me a message in words that I can understand? 806 00:39:29,403 --> 00:39:30,570 Can you speak to me? 807 00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:40,313 Austin for Bill. Are you there? 808 00:39:40,381 --> 00:39:42,015 Go for Bill. 809 00:39:42,082 --> 00:39:45,118 I swear to you, I just saw eyes next to the... 810 00:39:45,185 --> 00:39:47,253 It looks like the entrance of the changing room. 811 00:39:47,321 --> 00:39:49,422 Eyes? Yes. 812 00:39:49,490 --> 00:39:51,024 It looks like two eyes. 813 00:39:51,091 --> 00:39:52,325 There it is. It is moving. 814 00:39:53,460 --> 00:39:54,961 What is that? 815 00:39:57,998 --> 00:39:58,998 So, Bill, tell me about it. 816 00:39:59,066 --> 00:40:00,533 What did you guys do? 817 00:40:00,601 --> 00:40:02,435 We went down to Long Beach to investigate 818 00:40:02,503 --> 00:40:04,704 the possible hauntings on the Queen Mary. 819 00:40:04,772 --> 00:40:07,140 First we wanted to eliminate the obvious, 820 00:40:07,207 --> 00:40:09,943 that the ghost that we're seeing in Ryan Caudill's video 821 00:40:10,010 --> 00:40:11,911 wasn't a result of shadows 822 00:40:11,979 --> 00:40:13,813 because of light sources in the hallway. 823 00:40:13,881 --> 00:40:17,283 The shadows will cross the floor as well as the walls. 824 00:40:17,351 --> 00:40:19,185 But there's nothing that actually stands 825 00:40:19,253 --> 00:40:20,687 within the middle of the hallway, 826 00:40:20,754 --> 00:40:23,156 which is where all of Ryan's apparitions appeared. 827 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,928 We started thinking that maybe this is a hoax. 828 00:40:28,996 --> 00:40:31,965 There was a lot of condensation in the Long Beach Harbor, 829 00:40:32,032 --> 00:40:34,334 and we were thinking this could very easily act as a backdrop 830 00:40:34,401 --> 00:40:36,936 for us to project our own image onto. 831 00:40:37,004 --> 00:40:39,872 We projected a mini movie of Austin 832 00:40:39,940 --> 00:40:41,207 down the middle of the hallway 833 00:40:41,275 --> 00:40:42,475 so that we could get that white apparition 834 00:40:42,543 --> 00:40:44,043 walking straight down. 835 00:40:48,349 --> 00:40:49,882 - That looks great. - That is really cool. 836 00:40:49,950 --> 00:40:53,720 It was pretty amazing how well it worked, 837 00:40:53,787 --> 00:40:56,956 but the deal was is that you could see the beam of light 838 00:40:57,024 --> 00:40:58,825 from the projector cutting through the haze. 839 00:41:02,229 --> 00:41:05,498 The next test we did had pretty striking results, as well. 840 00:41:05,566 --> 00:41:07,533 We manipulated depth perception 841 00:41:07,601 --> 00:41:10,870 by using a presidential-style teleprompter. 842 00:41:10,938 --> 00:41:14,073 Whoa! 843 00:41:14,141 --> 00:41:15,241 Wow. 844 00:41:15,309 --> 00:41:17,143 To drive the point home 845 00:41:17,211 --> 00:41:19,245 that a video like this can be hoaxed, 846 00:41:19,313 --> 00:41:21,247 I shot the empty hallway. 847 00:41:21,315 --> 00:41:24,684 Then I took the video of Austin, and I composited the two. 848 00:41:26,186 --> 00:41:27,954 Wow. 849 00:41:28,022 --> 00:41:32,525 That looks great. 850 00:41:32,593 --> 00:41:34,727 I think we got a pretty close match here. 851 00:41:34,795 --> 00:41:37,430 It shows that that video could have been hoaxed in a number of ways, 852 00:41:37,498 --> 00:41:39,065 but it doesn't mean that there isn't 853 00:41:39,133 --> 00:41:40,733 any paranormal activity to be found on the Queen Mary. 854 00:41:40,801 --> 00:41:44,704 So, we thought, "We have to do a night investigation 855 00:41:44,772 --> 00:41:46,005 so we can collect our own evidence." 856 00:41:46,073 --> 00:41:48,408 I was in the middle of an EVP session 857 00:41:48,475 --> 00:41:50,009 when Austin radios me. 858 00:41:50,077 --> 00:41:52,712 "There's a pair of glowing eyes looking at you!" 859 00:41:52,780 --> 00:41:54,714 - Eyes? - Yeah. 860 00:41:54,782 --> 00:41:56,816 I just see these bright, glowing eyes staring at me 861 00:41:56,884 --> 00:41:58,351 right where Bill is. No way. 862 00:41:58,419 --> 00:41:59,619 Play the clip. Seriously. 863 00:41:59,686 --> 00:42:02,055 No way. 864 00:42:05,192 --> 00:42:07,527 Aah! So, do you see this? What the... 865 00:42:10,130 --> 00:42:11,998 I have no idea what they are, 866 00:42:12,066 --> 00:42:15,601 but as they start coming closer to the I.R. camera, 867 00:42:15,669 --> 00:42:17,370 I found out the ship actually has a couple stowaways. 868 00:42:20,441 --> 00:42:21,507 Oh, my gosh. 869 00:42:21,575 --> 00:42:22,708 A raccoon! A raccoon. 870 00:42:23,811 --> 00:42:25,545 It turns out 871 00:42:25,612 --> 00:42:26,913 that there are a number of raccoons 872 00:42:26,980 --> 00:42:28,314 that live in the belly of the ship. 873 00:42:28,382 --> 00:42:29,715 That was a false alarm, 874 00:42:29,783 --> 00:42:31,984 but we did not leave empty-handed. 875 00:42:32,052 --> 00:42:34,921 During the EVP session, something was recorded. 876 00:42:34,988 --> 00:42:37,423 No way. Why don't you guys listen to this audio file 877 00:42:37,491 --> 00:42:38,891 and tell me what you hear? No way. 878 00:42:41,161 --> 00:42:43,529 We're all here to learn from you. 879 00:42:45,332 --> 00:42:46,899 Oh, my gosh. 880 00:42:46,967 --> 00:42:48,434 Are you kidding me? 881 00:42:50,504 --> 00:42:54,373 That, to me, sounds like a little girl snickering. It's exactly what it is. 882 00:42:54,441 --> 00:42:58,111 We're all here to learn from you. 883 00:42:59,713 --> 00:43:01,914 Oh, my goodness. 884 00:43:01,982 --> 00:43:03,883 So, team, what do you think? 885 00:43:03,951 --> 00:43:05,685 Ryan's video... fact or faked? 886 00:43:05,752 --> 00:43:08,321 There's a number of ways that this video could have been faked. 887 00:43:08,388 --> 00:43:11,858 But that does not discount the numerous eyewitness accounts 888 00:43:11,925 --> 00:43:14,026 of actual paranormal activity. 889 00:43:14,094 --> 00:43:16,529 The video is certainly questionable, 890 00:43:16,597 --> 00:43:18,464 but I think the EVP session 891 00:43:18,532 --> 00:43:21,134 shows that there may be paranormal activity 892 00:43:21,201 --> 00:43:22,135 aboard the Queen Mary. 893 00:43:22,202 --> 00:43:24,103 Sounds like we agree. 894 00:43:24,171 --> 00:43:27,807 Paranormal activity in Ryan's video... probably faked. 895 00:43:27,875 --> 00:43:29,842 But the Queen Mary may be haunted. 896 00:43:31,345 --> 00:43:33,112 Great job, guys. 897 00:43:33,512 --> 00:43:43,512 Sync by Jabbberwock www.addic7ed.com 67055

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