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'All We Do'
by Oh Wonder
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# All we do is hide away
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# All we do is
All we do is hide away
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# All we do is lie in wait
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# All we do is
All we do is lie in wait
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# I've been upside down
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# I don't want to be
The right way round
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# Can't find paradise
On the ground. #
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Hi. This is Llagavelly Farm?
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It is. How can I help you?
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DS Murray Boulting.
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Metropolitan Police.
I'm looking for David Bell.
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What is it you need to know?
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Maybe I can help?
Is he here?
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If you'd like to follow me.
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You're not 21 any more, Tony Hume.
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You need to slow down.
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That was me slowing down.
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A boozy break from work.
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Well, exactly.
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You shouldn't need a break from work
because you shouldn't be working.
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What are you even
still trying to prove?
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I don't know.
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I just know the older I get,
the more I see the mistakes.
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The things I didn't achieve.
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The wrongs I did.
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Oh, what wrongs?
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You haven't done any wrongs.
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Not proper ones, anyway.
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Well, I have, love.
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Decades of them.
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You did what you thought was
the right thing at the time and...
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Not just politics.
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There were other things I never...
I don't want to hear, Tony.
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We all have things
we wish we'd done differently.
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That's life.
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We move on.
We don't live in the past.
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So, is this anything to do
with Precious Falade?
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The only trouble we ever had here
was with Precious.
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We're all sinners, right?
But Precious...
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What? "Thou shalt have
no other gods before me."
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I'm not with you.
Mammon, DS Boulting.
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That's who she betrayed him for.
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God of money.
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Right.
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She was 15 when he got her pregnant.
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He was 42, your dear leader.
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He's right there.
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He was here for a couple of nights,
and then he left.
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Have you tried his work?
Yeah. They said he was off sick.
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Oh.
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He's in there, isn't he?
Jess, he's not.
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Steve, are you in there?
Please...
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If he's in there, Nick,
I swear to f...
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Jess... calm down.
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I am calm. Totally calm.
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Did he tell you
he was fucking my sister?
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Just in case you were thinking
of standing up for him.
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He was what?
Just get him to call me.
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You need to leave.
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I thought I'd wait.
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I thought I owed you that.
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You owe me nothing.
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So, what was it...
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when you asked me
to marry you that night?
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A genuine proposal.
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Really?
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Completely.
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Because, sitting here, right now...
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..it slightly feels like
maybe it was just...
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because you were so lost.
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No.
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No. At the time, it...
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..it felt utterly genuine.
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"At the time".
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And now?
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I don't know what's going on, Sal.
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I'm as thrown as you are.
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About where we are. Where I am.
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I feel...
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..so stuck.
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And... lost.
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Yeah.
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Now, certainly.
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And almost the unkindest cut of all
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is that's the most you've said to me
about it in nine months.
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Because I...
I felt you were jealous.
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Right.
Which, as I said, I completely get.
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So... listen.
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Let's not make any decisions
right now.
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But I do need to tell you
how I'm feeling.
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Of course.
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And how I'm feeling is that,
actually, with time,
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I think we could probably
ride this out.
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Probably.
Definitely.
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Except, erm...
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..then I got pregnant.
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And it made me realise
how much I do actually want a baby.
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And how much you don't.
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And that's quite a big thing.
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So I'm gonna go
and stay with my mum.
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We can keep talking, but...
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..I need a break,
to have a bit of a think.
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Of course.
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I'm... so, so sorry, my love.
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Yeah. Me too.
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'Hi, this is Karol,
leave a message.'
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Hi, Karol,
this is DS Frances Lingley again.
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Appreciate it
if you could return my call.
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My colleague DI Khan and I
need to speak with you
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following your earlier interview.
Call me back ASAP, please.
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Bailed?
'Last night.'
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Had some posh lawyer
on his case, apparently.
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OK, er... and to his home address?
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'Hang on. Let me check.'
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Joseph Bell's
apparently been bailed.
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So I'm thinking
if we go to his flat,
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then we might need firearms support?
Oh...
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You wanna call the boss?
Which one?
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Yeah, no,
better to be safe than sorry.
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Yeah, I'll put a call in to TFC.
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OK, thanks, Fran.
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Hey.
Hey, Sunny.
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How you doing?
Er...
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Dreadful.
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Ah.
You?
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My partner left last night,
so, er, same.
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Crap. I'm sorry.
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Well, how about we distract
ourselves with some work?
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I like it.
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Does anyone call you Jessie?
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James, as in Jessie...?
Yeah, no, no. No.
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I get the reference.
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On account of everyone I have met
making the exact same joke.
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Oh, sorry.
The thought just occurred to me.
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Jesus! We're in worse bloody trouble
than I thought.
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Time to go.
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Where we going again?
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Just away from London for now.
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Right.
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And you don't need to worry
about money, babe.
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Money ain't gonna be a problem...
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Armed police!
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Armed police,
face down on the floor, now!
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Put your hands on your head.
Hands behind your head!
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Put your hands on your head.
Stay there!
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Bedroom clear!
Kitchen clear!
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That's my stuff, man,
my personal stuff.
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I never stole none of that, bro,
so look after it, yeah,
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or I'll fuck you up.
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A sugar daddy?
That was Niamh's description.
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Any name?
Just said he was an older man.
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So are we saying
that we think this was Hume?
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That'd explain how Precious
might have had a key to the house.
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This relationship was supposed
to have happened when?
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She said Precious talked about him
the very last time
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she was up at the farm.
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Niamh always assumed
that's why she never came back.
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And we definitively know
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that David Bell did die
three months before the murder?
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Yeah, I checked with Bangor General
on the way back.
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He died on April the 12th, 2016,
of lung cancer.
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Lots to think about there. Er, Kaz?
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So, Joseph Bell's been arrested
at his flat,
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having been bailed two nights ago
with a 10K surety.
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Where's he get that kind of money?
His own sugar daddy.
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And possible motives
for HIM killing her?
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A row that escalated
and could have been precipitated
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by multiple things.
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Drugs, money, her being on the game,
her not being on the game.
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Also, when you look at
the Zoom interviews I did,
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then simple old-fashioned revenge
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starts to look like
a fairly good motive.
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Be good to be able to place him
at the house at some point.
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It's funny you should say that,
because I've been doing
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a bit of record-checking
of Precious's bank statements.
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And started with the assumption
it was unlikely she had no phone,
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and was linking
debit card payments...
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..to possible phone shops,
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newsagents, corner shops, etc,
and, bingo!
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This here.
Sorry.
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Ebele Falade's here, Guv.
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OK, thank you. Go on.
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Yeah, so this is a £30 card payment
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made to a small phone shop in Acton.
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Where did you get it?
Doesn't matter.
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It matters to me.
Same as you telling me
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what the police wanted
to speak to you about matters.
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I've already told you.
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It was an old client of mine
who sadly died,
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and they just wanted
some background on her.
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They couldn't do it in a phone call?
Apparently not.
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It's not my problem.
Can we move on, please?
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Serge spoke to one
of the French officers this morning.
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Explained the situation
with the children,
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that you live with us,
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that you are effectively
their stepfather.
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And they said you were
a person of interest in a murder.
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Which might have a sexual element.
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It's not true, Elise.
You must know that not be true.
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Look at me.
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Look at me.
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You need to leave.
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Please...
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Now, please.
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OK, thank you. Bye, now.
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Boss, have you got a minute?
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I just spoke
to social services again.
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Er, yeah, one sec.
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Guv?
Yeah?
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Erm, so I just spoke to HR
at West London Social Services,
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and they've confirmed Karol Wojski
vehemently denied the allegation,
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but then also refused
to hand his phone over.
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So, he was sacked or resigned?
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It was agreed he could just resign
on mental health grounds,
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with no complaint on his record.
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And when he left,
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another employee came forward
with a similar allegation.
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So, what are we thinking?
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Maybe there was some sort of
sexual misdemeanour with Precious
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that escalated?
OK.
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Make an application for all his
work email correspondence for 2016,
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with particular reference,
obviously, to Precious.
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Guv.
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You all right?
Yes.
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So, my guess is
she'll probably go "no comment".
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So as discussed, the trick'll be
to goad her in to talking. Yep.
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In terms of motive,
we have a row that got out of hand
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about money, or sex work,
or Precious stealing from her.
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Or a row that got out of hand about
how terrible a mother Abele was.
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Or what a terrible daughter
Precious was.
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Spoilt for choice.
Mm.
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So, when we spoke on Tuesday,
you said the last time
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that you saw your daughter
was on her birthday,
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on the 15th of January,
is that correct?
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Yes.
Now showing Ms Falade exhibit EF001.
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Can you confirm
that this mobile number
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was once registered to you?
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No idea.
OK.
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Showing exhibit EF002.
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So, this was the address attached
to the debit card
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that purchased that contract.
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Do you recognise that?
Yes.
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Was that your home address
between March 2014 and May 2015?
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Yes.
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So it would be reasonable to assume
that this was your number, right?
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No comment.
OK.
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Here is exhibit EF003.
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Do you recognise that number?
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No.
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OK, so that number was attached
to a pay-as-you-go SIM which we -
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through various bank
and telecom records -
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have identified as having
been bought by your daughter.
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Here's the thing, Bele.
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On the 26th of June, 2016,
the night we think she died,
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the number we believe was yours
257
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called the number
we believe was your daughter's.
258
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Do you have any comment on that?
259
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No.
D'you remember the call?
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From six years ago?
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The day your daughter died.
262
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No.
Well, the call happened at 18:27.
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It lasted three minutes
and 12 seconds.
264
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No recollection at all?
No.
265
00:16:51,860 --> 00:16:55,660
At 18:24, just before
you called your daughter,
266
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you also received a call from
an as yet unidentified number.
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Do you recall that?
No.
268
00:17:01,660 --> 00:17:05,660
OK, er, any recollection,
just 12 days before this,
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of having a row with her
outside the house where she died?
270
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What row?
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A neighbour called the police,
it was so loud,
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and detailed hearing
the younger of the two women
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calling her assailant "Mum".
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Her assailant?!
I never fucking touched her.
275
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So you were there,
but you never touched her?
276
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No... No comment.
277
00:17:27,660 --> 00:17:29,660
Fine. Moving on.
278
00:17:29,660 --> 00:17:31,660
Can I ask you
why you never mentioned
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that Precious had
foetal alcohol spectrum disorder?
280
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Because she didn't.
281
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All her medical and social service
records say that she did.
282
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Because she told them that she did.
283
00:17:40,660 --> 00:17:43,020
Because she was small
and struggled at school
284
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so wanted someone to blame.
285
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Did you drink while pregnant?
286
00:17:45,660 --> 00:17:48,660
No. I mean, we know that you have
a history of alcohol issues.
287
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You told us yourself.
Not when I was pregnant.
288
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You see...
289
00:17:57,340 --> 00:18:01,660
..I think you're denying the FASD
290
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because it had been a source
of huge conflict
291
00:18:03,700 --> 00:18:06,660
between Precious and you, hadn't it?
292
00:18:07,660 --> 00:18:09,660
No comment.
Which you wanted to keep from us,
293
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that you rowed - often violently -
294
00:18:11,660 --> 00:18:13,660
many, many times
about this very subject.
295
00:18:13,660 --> 00:18:14,660
No comment.
296
00:18:14,660 --> 00:18:17,660
Did you have another row with her
the night of June 26th? No.
297
00:18:17,660 --> 00:18:19,660
Maybe it got out of hand.
She was a volatile woman.
298
00:18:19,660 --> 00:18:20,660
I wasn't even with her.
299
00:18:20,660 --> 00:18:23,180
Maybe you didn't mean to hurt her.
Maybe it was an accident. Look...
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I did...
301
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the best I could for her.
302
00:18:34,660 --> 00:18:38,660
And I'm sorry
if that wasn't good enough.
303
00:18:38,660 --> 00:18:42,180
And... if I wasn't good enough.
304
00:18:44,660 --> 00:18:47,180
But I'm confused as to why
305
00:18:47,180 --> 00:18:50,660
she devoted so much of her life
to hating me.
306
00:18:50,660 --> 00:18:52,660
Because, really, what a waste.
307
00:18:52,660 --> 00:18:55,660
And I didn't have
an ideal childhood,
308
00:18:55,660 --> 00:18:58,020
but you move on, don't you?
309
00:18:58,020 --> 00:19:04,660
So like I say, I am genuinely sorry
if I failed her.
310
00:19:05,660 --> 00:19:11,660
But I can tell you honestly
that I never hit her.
311
00:19:11,660 --> 00:19:14,660
I never hurt her.
312
00:19:14,660 --> 00:19:19,660
And I certainly never killed her.
313
00:19:25,060 --> 00:19:26,060
It happens.
314
00:19:26,060 --> 00:19:27,580
There you go.
Oh, thank you.
315
00:19:29,060 --> 00:19:31,420
What, people shift their views
as they get older?
316
00:19:33,060 --> 00:19:35,060
I mean, generally,
it tends to go the other way,
317
00:19:35,060 --> 00:19:36,100
from left to right.
318
00:19:36,100 --> 00:19:40,060
And it's rarely as complete
as Hume's, but it does happen.
319
00:19:40,060 --> 00:19:43,060
So, he was pretty conservative
originally?
320
00:19:43,060 --> 00:19:45,060
He was a classic Thatcherite
321
00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:46,580
who'd lecture anyone
that would listen.
322
00:19:46,580 --> 00:19:48,060
You didn't spend
what you didn't have.
323
00:19:48,060 --> 00:19:51,060
Basically a version
of her "housewife fallacy".
324
00:19:51,060 --> 00:19:54,100
That you run a country like a home,
don't accumulate debt.
325
00:19:54,100 --> 00:19:59,060
And then?
And then, sometime late 2016,
326
00:19:59,060 --> 00:20:02,740
just six years after he more or less
invented austerity for Osborne,
327
00:20:02,740 --> 00:20:05,060
he declares the opposite.
That, actually, an economy
328
00:20:05,060 --> 00:20:07,060
is profoundly different
from a household,
329
00:20:07,060 --> 00:20:10,060
and we should be borrowing
and spending hugely
330
00:20:10,060 --> 00:20:11,060
on public services.
331
00:20:11,060 --> 00:20:15,060
So, does anyone have any idea
what brought this shift around?
332
00:20:15,060 --> 00:20:16,060
Not really.
333
00:20:16,060 --> 00:20:20,060
I mean, some people thought
it was his cancer diagnosis in 2014.
334
00:20:20,060 --> 00:20:23,260
OK. Except he was still a vociferous
campaigner for budget cuts
335
00:20:23,260 --> 00:20:26,900
all through his treatment,
so I didn't really buy that.
336
00:20:26,900 --> 00:20:29,060
Huh! Some people
thought it was Brexit,
337
00:20:29,060 --> 00:20:30,100
because he was a Remainer.
338
00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:33,100
There was an argument that austerity
had a part to play in them losing,
339
00:20:33,100 --> 00:20:35,900
but anyone with half a brain
knew that austerity
340
00:20:35,900 --> 00:20:38,060
was just one small part of that,
so...
341
00:20:38,060 --> 00:20:39,060
So?
342
00:20:44,060 --> 00:20:46,060
I think it was a woman.
343
00:20:58,060 --> 00:20:59,900
Deleted?
Sorry.
344
00:21:01,060 --> 00:21:03,060
Is that standard here?
Not at all.
345
00:21:03,060 --> 00:21:07,060
This was all deleted by him,
by Karol Wojski.
346
00:21:07,060 --> 00:21:11,060
So when you say deleted...?
Well, exactly.
347
00:21:11,060 --> 00:21:16,060
It depends how tech savvy he was,
because not much is gone forever.
348
00:21:16,060 --> 00:21:18,060
But how much time and money
do you have?
349
00:21:18,060 --> 00:21:20,060
I'll call my boss.
350
00:21:22,580 --> 00:21:26,060
I don't know what you did
or what you didn't do,
351
00:21:26,060 --> 00:21:27,060
but for what it's worth...
352
00:21:28,060 --> 00:21:31,060
..I've always thought of you
as a good guy.
353
00:21:31,060 --> 00:21:32,060
I love you, man.
354
00:21:50,580 --> 00:21:54,420
And he said that he saw him with her
in the spring of 2016
355
00:21:54,420 --> 00:21:57,060
on the pavement
outside Portcullis House,
356
00:21:57,060 --> 00:21:59,060
as Hussein was returning from a run.
357
00:22:00,420 --> 00:22:04,060
How did he know it wasn't
a colleague, or just a friend or...?
358
00:22:04,060 --> 00:22:06,260
Yeah, he said he saw
that they were rowing,
359
00:22:06,260 --> 00:22:10,060
and that there was just something
in the way that they were together
360
00:22:10,060 --> 00:22:14,060
that to him, at least, suggested
it was an intimate relationship.
361
00:22:14,060 --> 00:22:16,100
Did you show him a photo
of Precious?
362
00:22:16,100 --> 00:22:19,060
Yeah. He couldn't say
one way or another on the face,
363
00:22:19,060 --> 00:22:21,060
but he did remember
very specifically
364
00:22:21,060 --> 00:22:24,260
that the woman with Hume was petite
365
00:22:24,260 --> 00:22:28,060
and that she was probably mixed-race
or Mediterranean-looking.
366
00:22:30,060 --> 00:22:32,060
OK.
Erm...
367
00:22:32,060 --> 00:22:34,260
And then just one last thing.
368
00:22:34,260 --> 00:22:37,060
As I was researching
his early years,
369
00:22:37,060 --> 00:22:39,060
Wallingham, Cambridge,
the City, etc,
370
00:22:39,060 --> 00:22:42,060
I came across
a rather interesting detail.
371
00:22:42,060 --> 00:22:46,060
Look at the second paragraph down,
under "Early Life".
372
00:22:47,060 --> 00:22:49,060
So, the first company
that Hume worked for,
373
00:22:49,060 --> 00:22:52,060
between 1968 and 1973,
374
00:22:52,060 --> 00:22:53,900
was Morgan Lavelle.
375
00:22:53,900 --> 00:22:56,060
The same company
that Ebele Falade walked into
376
00:22:56,060 --> 00:22:58,060
with an air pistol nine years later.
377
00:22:59,060 --> 00:23:00,060
Oh, man.
378
00:23:00,060 --> 00:23:02,060
Where are we
with finding our doorman?
379
00:23:02,060 --> 00:23:03,740
Er, I've been mainly
prioritising this.
380
00:23:03,740 --> 00:23:06,060
Well, we need to speak
to the doorman ASAP,
381
00:23:06,060 --> 00:23:08,420
because that, Kaz,
that is fucking gold.
382
00:23:10,060 --> 00:23:13,060
'You have one new message.'
383
00:23:13,060 --> 00:23:14,060
'Hi there, this is DS Lingley.
384
00:23:14,060 --> 00:23:17,060
'Thanks for your message,
and great you're back in the UK.
385
00:23:17,060 --> 00:23:19,060
'If you could present yourself
at Bishop Street Police Station,
386
00:23:19,060 --> 00:23:21,580
'NW1, ASAP, please ask for me.
387
00:23:21,580 --> 00:23:24,060
'That would be really helpful.
Thank you.'
388
00:23:28,060 --> 00:23:31,060
So, the owner of the firearm
we think is our murder weapon...
389
00:23:31,060 --> 00:23:32,060
Elton King?
'Yeah.'
390
00:23:32,060 --> 00:23:35,060
We found him.
He's happy to talk to us.
391
00:23:35,060 --> 00:23:38,260
OK, nice one.
Can you set something up tomorrow?
392
00:23:38,260 --> 00:23:40,260
'On it now. Night, boss.'
393
00:23:40,260 --> 00:23:42,060
Night.
394
00:23:53,060 --> 00:23:55,060
And so what we propose
three months out from launch
395
00:23:55,060 --> 00:23:57,060
is that I step away
from the Bath position.
396
00:23:57,060 --> 00:24:00,060
My commis chef is more than ready
to take the reins... Sorry.
397
00:24:02,060 --> 00:24:08,060
You were right.
It's... all just... noise.
398
00:24:08,060 --> 00:24:10,060
I'm... I'm so...
399
00:24:11,060 --> 00:24:13,060
..sorry to have wasted your time.
400
00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:14,260
I...
401
00:24:14,260 --> 00:24:17,900
It was a mistake.
It was my mistake.
402
00:24:17,900 --> 00:24:19,060
I am so sorry.
403
00:24:23,060 --> 00:24:24,100
I'm really sorry. I'll...
404
00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:26,060
I'll be right back.
405
00:24:28,060 --> 00:24:31,060
Bele.
406
00:24:33,060 --> 00:24:37,060
Now, we don't remotely expect you to
tell us where the gun is, Mr King.
407
00:24:37,060 --> 00:24:39,900
All we want to know is
if there is a possibility
408
00:24:39,900 --> 00:24:42,060
that Joseph Bell
could have had access to it
409
00:24:42,060 --> 00:24:44,740
after you were arrested.
410
00:24:44,740 --> 00:24:47,060
I 100% know he had access to it.
411
00:24:47,060 --> 00:24:50,740
OK. How?
412
00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:54,420
Cos it was him that used it
in the robbery, not me.
413
00:24:55,900 --> 00:24:57,060
He was the one with you?
414
00:24:59,060 --> 00:25:02,900
And when I got pulled,
I was happy to take the flak for it,
415
00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:05,580
on the assumption
he'd look after me inside.
416
00:25:05,580 --> 00:25:08,060
Send me shit, look after my lady.
417
00:25:08,060 --> 00:25:11,900
Except I never heard from him again.
So, yeah...
418
00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:14,060
he had access to the gun,
cos I gave it to him.
419
00:25:14,060 --> 00:25:17,060
And you'd be prepared to make
a statement to that effect?
420
00:25:17,060 --> 00:25:18,260
Too fucking right I would.
421
00:25:23,260 --> 00:25:26,100
So, we know the payments came
from a Coombe & Co account.
422
00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:30,060
We just need to know now who,
or what, DSH is.
423
00:25:30,060 --> 00:25:32,060
Except, unfortunately,
424
00:25:32,060 --> 00:25:35,900
I'm not at liberty
to disclose that information.
425
00:25:35,900 --> 00:25:38,060
Oh, I'm sorry. My mistake.
Yes, you are.
426
00:25:38,060 --> 00:25:41,060
My colleague DS Boulting
sent through a disclosure form.
427
00:25:41,060 --> 00:25:43,060
It's the bank's rules, I'm afraid.
428
00:25:43,060 --> 00:25:45,060
We can return with a warrant
429
00:25:45,060 --> 00:25:47,260
and spend a few days
turning the whole place over.
430
00:25:47,260 --> 00:25:49,060
It's your call.
431
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:52,060
I'll need to speak to my boss.
432
00:25:54,420 --> 00:25:56,060
I'll wait.
433
00:25:58,060 --> 00:26:04,060
When I was 17
and just pregnant with Precious...
434
00:26:04,060 --> 00:26:06,060
I came home from school one day
435
00:26:06,060 --> 00:26:13,060
to find that my grandmother had
invited Pastor Muyulu to our house
436
00:26:13,060 --> 00:26:16,260
to perform an exorcism on me.
437
00:26:16,260 --> 00:26:21,060
I refused to cooperate
and fought them both off.
438
00:26:22,260 --> 00:26:27,060
But then when I came back
a few days later...
439
00:26:27,060 --> 00:26:30,100
to get my stuff
before I left for good,
440
00:26:30,100 --> 00:26:34,060
I found my grandfather there
on his own.
441
00:26:34,060 --> 00:26:38,060
He was a strong man still,
only in his early 50s,
442
00:26:38,060 --> 00:26:42,060
and he told me that if we got
rid of it before I started to show,
443
00:26:42,060 --> 00:26:48,060
then I wouldn't shame them
and the community,
444
00:26:48,060 --> 00:26:50,060
like my mum had.
445
00:26:50,060 --> 00:26:56,060
He tied me up
and forced a funnel into my mouth...
446
00:26:58,060 --> 00:27:04,060
..and poured half a litre of vodka
down me.
447
00:27:07,580 --> 00:27:11,060
Apart from giving me a taste
for the stuff,
448
00:27:11,060 --> 00:27:14,060
whatever he did
over the next couple of hours
449
00:27:14,060 --> 00:27:16,060
obviously didn't work, because...
450
00:27:18,060 --> 00:27:21,100
..Precious survived.
451
00:27:23,060 --> 00:27:27,060
That, and the way
that they raised me,
452
00:27:27,060 --> 00:27:30,060
damaged me for life.
453
00:27:30,060 --> 00:27:31,060
And in here.
454
00:27:35,060 --> 00:27:39,060
The constant sense of shame
and guilt...
455
00:27:40,060 --> 00:27:43,260
..about my mum messed me up.
456
00:27:48,060 --> 00:27:54,060
So the first time I got sober,
in my early 30s...
457
00:27:56,060 --> 00:27:58,060
..I tried to get help.
458
00:27:58,060 --> 00:28:00,060
And for a few years, I was lucky.
459
00:28:00,060 --> 00:28:03,740
You know,
the referrals would sometimes get me
460
00:28:03,740 --> 00:28:08,060
an hour of therapy once a week,
for a couple of months.
461
00:28:11,060 --> 00:28:16,060
But then even that dwindled
to waiting lists
462
00:28:16,060 --> 00:28:21,060
and apologies from overworked GPs.
463
00:28:24,060 --> 00:28:25,900
So, you...
464
00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:29,420
you find your own therapy,
don't you?
465
00:28:29,420 --> 00:28:32,060
The drink sometimes.
466
00:28:38,060 --> 00:28:40,060
Or love.
467
00:28:40,060 --> 00:28:42,060
The best, I think.
468
00:28:44,060 --> 00:28:47,060
But the... the damage
is still in there.
469
00:28:53,060 --> 00:28:57,060
So, how about I tell you
where we are, what we know.
470
00:28:57,060 --> 00:29:00,060
Showing the suspect exhibit JR1,
471
00:29:00,060 --> 00:29:06,060
a copy of a triangulation document
supplied by KZK Mobile.
472
00:29:06,060 --> 00:29:12,060
So, this document details that on
the 26th of June, 2016, at 18:49,
473
00:29:12,060 --> 00:29:15,060
a phone that we believe
belonged to you
474
00:29:15,060 --> 00:29:20,060
called a phone registered
to your grandmother, Ebele Falade.
475
00:29:20,060 --> 00:29:22,900
That call was connected
via a phone mast
476
00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:26,060
just 200 yards
from 64 Waterman Road.
477
00:29:28,060 --> 00:29:29,580
So basically, what we're saying is,
478
00:29:29,580 --> 00:29:31,060
that on the night
that your mother died,
479
00:29:31,060 --> 00:29:36,060
we can place you in or near the
house in which her body was found.
480
00:29:39,060 --> 00:29:40,260
D'you have any response to that?
481
00:29:42,060 --> 00:29:45,060
No comment.
Did you make that call?
482
00:29:45,060 --> 00:29:48,060
No comment.
Were you there, J?
483
00:29:49,060 --> 00:29:50,060
No comment.
484
00:29:53,260 --> 00:29:56,060
Do you remember Elton King, Joseph?
485
00:29:58,060 --> 00:30:01,060
No comment.
He remembers you.
486
00:30:01,060 --> 00:30:04,060
Not that fondly, I'm sorry to say.
487
00:30:04,060 --> 00:30:06,060
No comment.
488
00:30:06,060 --> 00:30:08,580
That wasn't actually a question,
but thanks for the response.
489
00:30:08,580 --> 00:30:12,060
Did you look after a gun
for Mr King, Joseph?
490
00:30:12,060 --> 00:30:13,420
No comment.
Did you keep it
491
00:30:13,420 --> 00:30:15,060
while he went to prison
for a robbery
492
00:30:15,060 --> 00:30:17,060
that you were also involved in?
No comment.
493
00:30:17,060 --> 00:30:19,060
Did you have it with you
when you went to see your mother
494
00:30:19,060 --> 00:30:21,580
on the night of 26th June, 2016?
No comment.
495
00:30:21,580 --> 00:30:24,060
Did you get into a row with her,
Joseph?
496
00:30:24,060 --> 00:30:25,060
No comment.
497
00:30:25,060 --> 00:30:28,060
Because we know things
were difficult between you.
498
00:30:28,060 --> 00:30:32,060
We spoke to many people who looked
after you when you were growing up.
499
00:30:32,060 --> 00:30:37,060
Teachers, social workers,
your foster parent, Alan Barker.
500
00:30:38,060 --> 00:30:41,060
He told us
what your mum put you through,
501
00:30:41,060 --> 00:30:43,580
and I know that she was wrestling
with her own demons, but...
502
00:30:45,060 --> 00:30:48,060
..no child should have to deal with
what you did.
503
00:30:48,060 --> 00:30:51,060
The people
that she made you encounter.
504
00:30:51,060 --> 00:30:53,060
The innocence
that was taken away from you.
505
00:30:54,060 --> 00:30:57,060
So we understand if it was a row
that got out of hand
506
00:30:57,060 --> 00:31:00,060
and your anger
got the better of you.
507
00:31:00,060 --> 00:31:03,060
Maybe it was even an accident.
508
00:31:06,060 --> 00:31:09,060
But why don't you tell us
your side of the story?
509
00:31:14,260 --> 00:31:16,060
You don't understand a thing.
510
00:31:19,060 --> 00:31:22,060
Joseph...
And you can shut the fuck up.
511
00:31:28,580 --> 00:31:30,060
So help us.
512
00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:36,100
I'm not Joseph Bell.
513
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:40,060
I'm sorry?
514
00:31:40,060 --> 00:31:42,060
I'm not Joe.
515
00:31:42,060 --> 00:31:45,060
It's not J for Joseph.
It's J for Jay.
516
00:31:48,060 --> 00:31:49,260
I'm Joe's half-brother.
517
00:31:51,460 --> 00:31:53,460
My birth was never registered.
518
00:31:53,460 --> 00:31:55,660
My mum didn't want me
taken in to care like Joe was.
519
00:31:55,660 --> 00:32:00,460
So... So, what about schools
and healthcare?
520
00:32:00,460 --> 00:32:03,140
I lived between my mum and my dad
till I was 11.
521
00:32:03,140 --> 00:32:04,460
He home-schooled me a bit.
522
00:32:05,460 --> 00:32:08,820
So, how old are you?
21.
523
00:32:08,820 --> 00:32:12,460
So you were 14 when your mum died?
524
00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:16,460
Nearly 15.
525
00:32:16,460 --> 00:32:19,460
And did you go to your dad, then?
526
00:32:19,460 --> 00:32:22,980
No, he died in 2015.
527
00:32:22,980 --> 00:32:24,980
And who was your father?
528
00:32:27,460 --> 00:32:29,300
Eric Royce.
529
00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:32,460
OK. And where did he live?
530
00:32:32,460 --> 00:32:35,460
With, erm... a travelling community.
531
00:32:35,460 --> 00:32:37,460
So, er...
532
00:32:38,460 --> 00:32:41,460
How did you survive in London,
533
00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:44,460
I presume on your own,
from the age of 14?
534
00:32:44,460 --> 00:32:47,460
I did fine. I was already old, man.
535
00:32:48,460 --> 00:32:52,460
I stole. Lived on the streets.
536
00:32:52,460 --> 00:32:55,460
Got jobs in markets,
lived in squats.
537
00:32:56,460 --> 00:32:59,460
Then when I was 16, I...
538
00:32:59,460 --> 00:33:02,980
I adopted my brother's identity
to gain access to his benefits.
539
00:33:05,460 --> 00:33:09,460
OK. Did your brother
not need his identity?
540
00:33:15,460 --> 00:33:16,820
You can leave now.
541
00:33:19,460 --> 00:33:23,460
Jay, I'm here to help...
Leave, bruv.
542
00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:31,460
I'll wait outside.
543
00:33:45,460 --> 00:33:47,460
No.
544
00:33:47,460 --> 00:33:49,460
Why didn't your brother
need his identity?
545
00:33:51,820 --> 00:33:55,460
Did something happen to him, Jay?
546
00:33:55,460 --> 00:33:58,460
Something connected
to the night of the 26th?
547
00:33:58,460 --> 00:33:59,980
There's people out there, man,
548
00:33:59,980 --> 00:34:02,460
who'd wanna hurt me
cos of what I've seen.
549
00:34:02,460 --> 00:34:03,820
So I'm not saying any more.
550
00:34:03,820 --> 00:34:05,460
We wouldn't let that happen.
551
00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:08,460
We wouldn't let anyone hurt you.
552
00:34:08,460 --> 00:34:09,660
Yeah, people used to say that
to Joe.
553
00:34:09,660 --> 00:34:11,460
All day long.
554
00:34:11,460 --> 00:34:14,460
People like you,
telling him he could trust them.
555
00:34:14,460 --> 00:34:16,460
That they'd look after him.
556
00:34:16,460 --> 00:34:18,300
And they were lying.
557
00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:20,460
All of them, man.
558
00:34:20,460 --> 00:34:22,460
All of them.
559
00:34:23,460 --> 00:34:25,460
So I ain't telling you a thing.
560
00:34:48,460 --> 00:34:50,460
'So, good news, bad news.'
561
00:34:50,460 --> 00:34:55,460
The bad news is that all his e-mails
to her have gone from our server.
562
00:34:55,460 --> 00:34:58,460
And I mean properly gone.
He knew what he was doing.
563
00:34:58,460 --> 00:35:01,460
OK. And the good news?
564
00:35:01,460 --> 00:35:04,460
Just because of how and where
our systems store stuff,
565
00:35:04,460 --> 00:35:07,980
there are two from her to him
undeleted,
566
00:35:07,980 --> 00:35:11,460
and I think you'll find them
interesting.
567
00:35:11,460 --> 00:35:13,460
So, this is the first,
568
00:35:13,460 --> 00:35:16,500
as I say, from Precious Falade
to Karol Wojski,
569
00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:19,460
sent on the 26th of June at 14:23.
570
00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:23,460
"Hi, Karol, you left your laptop
here earlier, unlocked.
571
00:35:23,460 --> 00:35:25,460
"Couldn't resist a peek
at your photos.
572
00:35:25,460 --> 00:35:26,460
"Some interesting pics.
573
00:35:26,460 --> 00:35:30,460
"How much would you not want me
to share these with your boss?
574
00:35:30,460 --> 00:35:31,460
"Call or text. I'm here tonight."
575
00:35:31,460 --> 00:35:33,660
And then this is the other one.
576
00:35:33,660 --> 00:35:35,460
And at the bottom here,
577
00:35:35,460 --> 00:35:37,460
you can see his reply
to her first email.
578
00:35:39,660 --> 00:35:41,460
That would be the 27th.
579
00:35:41,460 --> 00:35:45,980
And she just replies, "Bring 2K."
Oh...
580
00:35:48,460 --> 00:35:51,460
There was a laptop logged
on her son's arrest sheet.
581
00:35:54,460 --> 00:35:57,460
So, is it possible to determine
who's this is?
582
00:35:57,460 --> 00:35:59,460
Is it obviously Joe Royce's?
583
00:35:59,460 --> 00:36:01,460
If it is, he's barely used it
in the last few years.
584
00:36:01,460 --> 00:36:04,460
There's no internet history,
no updates, no emails.
585
00:36:04,460 --> 00:36:07,460
So, when you say
the last few years...?
586
00:36:07,460 --> 00:36:10,460
Last real activity was mid-2016.
587
00:36:10,460 --> 00:36:12,460
So this is his mum's.
588
00:36:12,460 --> 00:36:14,460
I think that's pretty likely.
OK.
589
00:36:14,460 --> 00:36:18,460
Also, I need you to find
and download any stored photos,
590
00:36:18,460 --> 00:36:24,460
look for anything, erm, tagged
and nominated to a Karol Wojski.
591
00:36:24,460 --> 00:36:25,460
Right.
Yep.
592
00:36:25,460 --> 00:36:28,460
Yep.
Call me ASAP if you find anything.
593
00:36:28,460 --> 00:36:30,460
Cheers.
594
00:36:30,460 --> 00:36:33,460
His brother?!
'Half.
595
00:36:33,460 --> 00:36:35,460
'At least, that's what he told me.'
596
00:36:35,460 --> 00:36:38,460
There was no bloody brother,
half or otherwise.
597
00:36:38,460 --> 00:36:41,140
I'm just telling you what he said.
598
00:36:41,140 --> 00:36:42,460
'Is he still in there?
599
00:36:42,460 --> 00:36:45,300
'Are they still questioning him?'
Yes.
600
00:36:45,300 --> 00:36:49,460
Look, just try to get him out,
Graham, whoever the hell he is.
601
00:36:49,460 --> 00:36:51,460
And then what?
602
00:36:51,460 --> 00:36:53,460
'Just...
Oh, I've got another call coming in.
603
00:36:53,460 --> 00:36:54,460
'Just try to get him out.'
604
00:36:57,460 --> 00:36:58,460
Ben.
'Tony.'
605
00:36:58,460 --> 00:37:00,460
Long time.
'Indeed.'
606
00:37:00,460 --> 00:37:03,460
How are you?
'Er, listen, not a social call.'
607
00:37:03,460 --> 00:37:07,460
Er, we've had a rather unfortunate
incident in the bank today,
608
00:37:07,460 --> 00:37:09,460
involving a police officer
609
00:37:09,460 --> 00:37:12,460
asking about an account you set up
in the late '80s?
610
00:37:12,460 --> 00:37:16,460
Right. And, er...
what did you tell them?
611
00:37:16,460 --> 00:37:21,300
Well, you know I always try
to preserve anonymity, but, er...
612
00:37:22,460 --> 00:37:24,460
..I had to tell them, I'm afraid.
613
00:37:24,460 --> 00:37:27,300
'About both standing orders.'
614
00:37:31,460 --> 00:37:33,460
Fran Lingley.
615
00:37:33,460 --> 00:37:35,460
'Fran, it's Gordy Watson
on the front desk.'
616
00:37:35,460 --> 00:37:36,460
Hey, Gordy, what's up?
617
00:37:36,460 --> 00:37:40,300
'So, I just had the weirdest call
regarding the Precious Falade case.
618
00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:41,460
'Can you come down?'
619
00:37:47,460 --> 00:37:49,660
So, how do we prove
if he's telling the truth?
620
00:37:49,660 --> 00:37:50,980
It's hard.
621
00:37:52,300 --> 00:37:56,300
But DNA from him, his mum,
both his alleged fathers...
622
00:37:56,300 --> 00:37:58,460
Who are both dead, and may not be
on any of our systems.
623
00:37:58,460 --> 00:38:02,460
And how long's that gonna take,
if it's even possible?
624
00:38:02,460 --> 00:38:03,460
Not your problem.
625
00:38:03,460 --> 00:38:05,500
I'm not sure
you're even his brief any more.
626
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:09,460
And even if he is lying
about who he says he is...
627
00:38:09,460 --> 00:38:12,460
you still have no good evidence
to connect him to your murder.
628
00:38:12,460 --> 00:38:15,460
As I said...
I think you'll find I am his brief,
629
00:38:15,460 --> 00:38:18,460
as soon as I tell him
I can get him bailed.
630
00:38:18,460 --> 00:38:20,140
Guv.
631
00:38:20,140 --> 00:38:22,460
Erm, I need a word.
It's pretty urgent.
632
00:38:22,460 --> 00:38:24,460
We'll get right back to you on that.
633
00:38:25,660 --> 00:38:29,460
And did the caller say
who the body was?
634
00:38:29,460 --> 00:38:31,300
A young man named Joseph Bell.
635
00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:33,460
Jesus.
Yeah.
636
00:38:33,460 --> 00:38:36,460
And I assume the caller
didn't say who he was?
637
00:38:36,460 --> 00:38:39,460
No.
How weird they make the call now.
638
00:38:39,460 --> 00:38:41,660
Can we trace where the call
came from? We're working on it.
639
00:38:41,660 --> 00:38:44,460
And did he say where specifically
in the garden he was buried?
640
00:38:44,460 --> 00:38:47,140
No, but I checked the address
he gave on Google Maps.
641
00:38:47,140 --> 00:38:49,460
It's a small ground floor flat
in Greenford.
642
00:38:49,460 --> 00:38:52,460
The garden's 50 by 30, so...
643
00:38:52,460 --> 00:38:55,460
OK. Thanks, Fran.
OK.
644
00:39:00,460 --> 00:39:02,460
So, we get a dog unit down there...
645
00:39:03,460 --> 00:39:04,460
What about Jay Royce?
646
00:39:05,660 --> 00:39:09,300
Brief's right.
We've got nothing to hold him.
647
00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:11,500
Bail him to return next week.
648
00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:13,500
OK.
649
00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:17,460
Sunny, when they found the bullet,
did they keep looking for others?
650
00:39:18,460 --> 00:39:21,460
I'll call Morten.
Get him back in there.
651
00:39:35,460 --> 00:39:37,460
Mr Blackwood?
Yeah?
652
00:39:37,460 --> 00:39:40,300
Karen Willets, Bishop Street nick.
653
00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:43,460
I was wondering
if you could give me five minutes?
654
00:39:43,460 --> 00:39:45,140
Yeah.
655
00:39:45,140 --> 00:39:47,460
Where were they?
656
00:39:47,460 --> 00:39:50,460
In a file imaginatively named
"Karol Wojsack pics".
657
00:39:50,460 --> 00:39:52,300
So, this is not Jay's.
658
00:39:53,460 --> 00:39:57,460
Everything on here would suggests to
me this is Precious Falade's laptop.
659
00:39:57,460 --> 00:39:59,140
When was the file made?
660
00:39:59,140 --> 00:40:01,460
26th of June, 2016.
661
00:40:01,460 --> 00:40:04,460
Downloaded from an email
sent from a Hotmail address,
662
00:40:04,460 --> 00:40:06,460
also created on the 26th of June.
663
00:40:06,460 --> 00:40:09,460
About 20 minutes or so
before the e-mail was sent, in fact.
664
00:40:09,460 --> 00:40:13,140
So she creates a Hotmail account
on Wojski's laptop
665
00:40:13,140 --> 00:40:15,460
to send the photos to this to hers?
666
00:40:15,460 --> 00:40:17,300
Yeah.
667
00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:19,820
How many are there?
43.
668
00:40:19,820 --> 00:40:24,660
On the tube, buses, shops...
It's obviously his thing.
669
00:40:24,660 --> 00:40:27,460
Daryl, you're a genius.
Can you send them to me? Yep.
670
00:40:27,460 --> 00:40:30,300
- When?
- 'About ten minutes ago.'
671
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:31,460
And what's he doing?
672
00:40:31,460 --> 00:40:33,460
Has he... Has he come
to pick some stuff up or...?
673
00:40:33,460 --> 00:40:35,460
I don't think so.
He's playing with the kids.
674
00:40:35,460 --> 00:40:37,460
'He just dropped a bag
in the spare room
675
00:40:37,460 --> 00:40:40,460
'and said he'd cook.'
OK, well, erm...
676
00:40:40,460 --> 00:40:44,460
Look, you head on, Mum,
and, erm... I'll call you later, OK?
677
00:40:44,460 --> 00:40:45,660
Sorry.
678
00:40:54,460 --> 00:40:57,460
Go on, then.
Go find him. Good boy.
679
00:41:35,460 --> 00:41:37,460
- Lingley.
- 'Got a Karol Wojski down here
680
00:41:37,460 --> 00:41:38,820
'asking for you.'
681
00:41:40,140 --> 00:41:42,460
Can you get him to take a seat
and tell him I'll be down in 20?
682
00:42:06,980 --> 00:42:08,460
Here!
683
00:42:12,460 --> 00:42:13,820
Good boy.
684
00:42:28,460 --> 00:42:32,460
Mr Hume, Gatwick?
Yes. Gatwick, please.
685
00:42:42,460 --> 00:42:45,660
And we just felt that there was
a bit of a discrepancy between you,
686
00:42:45,660 --> 00:42:47,460
obviously, thinking it was
687
00:42:47,460 --> 00:42:49,460
a serious enough incident
to call the police,
688
00:42:49,460 --> 00:42:52,460
and then what you went on to say
in court.
689
00:42:53,460 --> 00:42:56,460
Well, yes.
690
00:42:56,460 --> 00:42:59,460
Yes, there was.
Thanks.
691
00:42:59,460 --> 00:43:00,460
OK.
692
00:43:01,460 --> 00:43:03,460
But can I ask you why?
693
00:43:03,460 --> 00:43:06,460
Because it was suggested to me
after the arrest...
694
00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:10,460
..that if I wanted to keep my job...
695
00:43:11,460 --> 00:43:13,460
..I downplay the incident.
696
00:43:13,460 --> 00:43:15,980
Suggested by who?
697
00:43:15,980 --> 00:43:17,460
One of the directors.
698
00:43:18,460 --> 00:43:22,460
Which one?
I'd prefer not to say.
699
00:43:24,460 --> 00:43:26,460
Well, according to my research,
700
00:43:26,460 --> 00:43:28,980
Anthony Hume's father
was on the board of directors.
701
00:43:28,980 --> 00:43:30,460
Was it him?
702
00:43:33,660 --> 00:43:37,460
And was there anything else
he asked you to change?
703
00:43:39,460 --> 00:43:42,460
Anything else
that you didn't tell the court?
704
00:43:42,460 --> 00:43:47,460
What she was shouting,
when she came through the door.
705
00:43:47,460 --> 00:43:48,660
Which was?
706
00:43:51,460 --> 00:43:53,460
"I wanna speak to my dad.
707
00:43:54,460 --> 00:43:57,980
"I want to speak
to Tony fucking Hume."
708
00:44:19,460 --> 00:44:21,460
Hold on.
709
00:44:35,460 --> 00:44:37,460
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