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the people are represented
by two separate,
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yet equally important groups.
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The police, who investigate
crime,
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and the Crown Prosecutors,
who prosecute the offenders.
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These are their stories.
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Police have been granted
a further 24 hours
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to interview Lennie Gaines,
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the father
of 10-year-old Jodie Gaines,
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who's been missing
for seven days.
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Jodie went missing last Friday
on her way
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to a music lesson
in Central London.
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Earlier this week,
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Lennie Gaines and
his ex-wife Kayleigh,
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made an emotional plea
for Jodie's safe return.
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[Lennie] If you saw Jodie...
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and you know where...
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where she is...
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-[engine whirring]
-[truck beeping]
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Please...
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tell the police.
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[crash]
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She's our baby.
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And we need her home.
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We need her home now.
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[sirens wailing]
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[woman] Couple
of Latvian skip rats
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found her about three hours ago.
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They were after scrap metal.
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She was under that radiator.
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Time of death, about six
to ten hours ago.
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Cause, not obvious.
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She'd only been dead an hour
or so when they dumped her.
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There's abrasions on the palms
of her hands. Looks like glass.
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Is it her?
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Jodie had a scar
on her left arm.
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[groans]
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Any sign of her school bag
or mobile?
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-[coroner] Nothing yet.
-Anything else for us?
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Couple of mothballs stuck
to the sheet.
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Who uses mothballs these days?
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Who tapes a kid's mouth shut,
and shoves them in a skip?
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I don't know...
but it wasn't her dad.
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Let's get him out of the cells
then, eh?
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[Lennie] We've told you
everything we know.
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Yeah, but it will just help us,
Mr Gaines.
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We just need to go over
your statements again.
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Routine, that's all.
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[Lennie] Forty-nine hours
I've been locked up.
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And all the time
she's been out there. Alive.
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[Ronnie] Well, the other team,
you know, made a bad call.
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And I know it doesn't make it
any easier.
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But when a child goes missing,
presumed dead,
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we have to consider
every possibility.
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Even the fact that maybe the dad
did it.
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Not this.
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Not this dad.
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Just like to go over
Jodie's after-school routine,
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if that's okay.
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[Lennie] Just in case something
may have been missed.
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Guitar lesson, 4 p.m.
Poland Street.
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It's about a mile away
from the school.
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[Ronnie]
And how does she get there?
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Same cab firm. They're all
CRB checked.
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Look, Jodie knows
all the drivers.
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Been through this
a hundred times.
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Well, you don't think
she's a bit young
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to be taking cabs on her own?
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Well, cabs, you know.
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They're checked,
so they're safe, eh?
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She's usually back
ten minutes after me.
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I waited...
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and waited,
but she didn't come home.
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So, Jodie was staying with you,
yeah?
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[Lennie] Jodie lived with me.
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The family courts
gave me custody.
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[Ronnie] Right.
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[Lennie] I'll call Grebo.
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Grebo?
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Grebo Maul. The guitar teacher.
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[Ronnie] Lovely. Thanks, Matt.
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But he said she never showed up,
but
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the school teacher said
she saw her get into the cab.
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Cause of death was suffocation.
Jodie had a stomach bug.
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Her mouth was taped shut.
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Vomit needed to go somewhere
and it did.
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It clogged up
her nasal passages.
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[Natalie] Jesus.
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So it could have been
accidental.
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Oh, accidentally tape
her mouth shut, did he?
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How are we gonna tell that
to the dad?
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Well, it's her mum
I'm worried about.
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Poor woman could barely speak.
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At least Jodie
wasn't sexually assaulted.
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That's got to be
some consolation.
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Although that could've been
the motive
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for the kidnapping though.
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They did pull over 50 splinters
of glass out of her hands.
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How did the glass get
in her hands?
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Well, could've been a scuffle,
glass could've smashed
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and she could've tried to crawl
over it.
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Any news on the sheet
she was wrapped up in?
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It was a 1950s vintage
top sheet.
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Part of a set,
but it could've come
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from any retro shop,
jumble sale--
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Or it could've been bought new
and just had over, I don't know,
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-half a century's worth of use.
-Yeah.
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Talk to the cabbie again.
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And to the guitar teacher.
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[Grebo] Like I told
the other cops, she didn't show.
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The thing is, Grebo--
can I call you Grebo?
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We have a witness that saw her
walk through your front door.
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I don't know what to say.
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You went through my flat.
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And don't think you won't get
a bill for the damages.
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I'll give you the number
of our complaints line.
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So Jodie comes to your place
week in week out
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for guitar lessons.
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When she doesn't show up,
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you don't think to call
her parents?
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I did the first time
she tried it.
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Her dad went mental.
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So what about the second
or the third time?
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[Grebo] Her dad kept her
on a tight leash.
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Look, if I thought
for one second
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Jodie was in trouble,
I'd have called her dad.
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I've been driving Jodie
over a year now. Sparky kid.
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Where exactly did you drop
Jodie?
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Outside Food City
on Poland Street.
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Her music teacher lives
above it.
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[Matt] And you watched her
go in?
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Always do.
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The school recommends us
to parents.
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-It's part of the deal.
-And what route did you take?
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Shaftesbury Avenue,
Wardour Street,
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er, Broadwick Street,
then onto Poland Street.
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-[Ronnie] Lads. All right.
-How you doing?
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Just a quick question.
How long you been working here?
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[worker] Best part of a week.
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And this diversion's been
in place the whole time?
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Yeah.
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Am I missing something?
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Right, our cabbie reckons
he drove down Broadwick Street
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and turned right
onto Poland Street.
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[machines buzzing]
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Maybe his cab's got wings.
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[Dom] Okay, okay.
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Maybe I took Noel Street
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and turned left
into Poland Street.
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No, that's one-way.
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Then it must have been
D'Arblay Street.
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[Matt] I don't know, Ronnie,
I thought these cabbies
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were meant to have a memory
for routes.
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[Ronnie] You know what, Dom,
I sympathize with you,
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I really do.
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And I'll tell you for why.
Because when I was married
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to the first Mrs. Brooks
and I came home late,
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she would want to know
every single detail.
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And I used to struggle,
because, I've gotta be honest,
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half the time
I couldn't remember--
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What's it matter what road
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-I took?
-Hey, hey. It matters.
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[Matt] Because we reckon
you took Jodie
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for a little detour.
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I dunno, maybe school uniforms
float your boat.
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You're sick. I've got four girls
of my own.
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So now you think you're a man
of honor
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because you won't touch
your own kids, but as long
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as they're not related,
then they're fair game.
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[Dom] This is crazy.
I didn't do that.
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Now listen to me,
you've lied once--
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[Ronnie] Dom!
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-Would you like a cup of tea?
-Yes.
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Yeah, me and all.
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What about you, Matt? Fancy
a cup of tea?
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Why don't you get us a cup
of tea?
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For the tape, DS Devlin
is leaving the room.
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[door closes]
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Well.
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You know what, Dom?
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I think you're telling
the truth.
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But I also think you're leaving
something out.
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Some little detail
you're not telling us you know.
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A bit like when I used to tell
my wife I was working late
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and forgot to mention I'd spent
four hours in the Red Lion.
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What's the little detail?
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Traffic was hell.
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Jodie said she could walk it
faster.
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I...
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dropped her off
on Wardour Street.
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Corner of Broadwick.
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Promised her dad
I would never leave
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till she was inside.
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They ran his name
through the system.
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Not even a parking fine.
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Right. Do you want us
to let him go, then, Guv?
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Don't you dare.
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He's told one lie,
maybe there'll be more.
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For a start we've been watching
the wrong CCTV footage.
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Now he's changed his mind
about his route...
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different cameras
might come up trumps.
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[Matt] Out she gets. Ronnie?
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-Got him.
-Nice one.
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A second after Jodie turns
into Broadwick Street.
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-[Matt] Can you rewind that bit?
-For you, anything.
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So just after Jodie turns
into Broadwick Street...
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one of the residents
of the flats
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remembers seeing a white van
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hanging around the skip.
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Do you know how many white vans
there are in London?
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[Matt] But not all of them have
got racks on the side.
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It's a glazier's van.
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And Jodie was found
with glass splinters
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in her hands.
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Which could've come
from the back of that van.
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[Matt] They're all side shots.
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Driver's in profile
for maybe one frame.
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-IC one. IC two maybe.
-[Natalie] What about the van?
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Congestion Zone cameras
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must've got
the registration number.
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Oh yeah, they got a beauty
of the mud obscuring it.
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[Natalie] What about
the lettering on the side,
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behind the rack?
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Well, I mean,
the logo's all faded
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and the angle
the sunlight's hitting the glass
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means you can't make out
a thing.
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So basically
we're back to square one, Guv.
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Is that a window?
It's not standard.
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Can't be many that shape around.
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[Matt laughing]
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That... is a modern take
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on the 19th century arch window,
apparently.
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Well, that's very good,
but does he have any idea
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what sort of building
it comes from?
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Well, I reckon we've been there
a few times.
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Nope you've lost me.
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That is a window
from the south block
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of the Old Bailey.
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[phone ringing]
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-[machines whirring]
-[music playing]
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That's right. We did
the Old Bailey job last week.
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-Wasn't easy matching it up.
-Is this one of yours?
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What's this all about?
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[Ronnie] We asked first,
Mr Andreou.
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Yeah, it looks like one
of my vans.
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What was it? Hit and run?
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We think the driver
may have witnessed a crime.
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Well, look, I've got
over 30 fitters.
248
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I'd need to check the files.
249
00:12:22,524 --> 00:12:24,221
Leave me a number
and I'll get back to you.
250
00:12:25,962 --> 00:12:27,181
Have you been sober long?
251
00:12:28,922 --> 00:12:29,836
[Farris] Pardon?
252
00:12:31,272 --> 00:12:32,926
"To thine own self be true"
That's what mine says.
253
00:12:34,231 --> 00:12:34,971
How long?
254
00:12:37,104 --> 00:12:38,888
Three hundred
and ninety-two days.
255
00:12:40,890 --> 00:12:41,761
That's good.
256
00:12:45,112 --> 00:12:47,288
We need this information now,
Mr Andreou.
257
00:12:55,383 --> 00:12:57,472
You know the Grovewood
Rehab Clinic, do ya?
258
00:12:57,515 --> 00:12:59,779
Well, I read the brochure
in between pints.
259
00:13:00,649 --> 00:13:01,868
Yeah, Christos.
260
00:13:02,869 --> 00:13:04,914
Who fitted the window
on the Old Bailey job?
261
00:13:05,915 --> 00:13:06,829
Cheers.
262
00:13:08,004 --> 00:13:09,136
Nick Carlton.
263
00:13:09,179 --> 00:13:10,485
Lives in Kennington.
He's out on a job.
264
00:13:13,096 --> 00:13:14,358
Don't tell my boss, right?
265
00:13:15,142 --> 00:13:16,143
I was moonlighting.
266
00:13:17,013 --> 00:13:18,536
[Matt] You got the address?
267
00:13:18,580 --> 00:13:20,930
Must have chucked it out.
The job wasn't worth my while.
268
00:13:20,974 --> 00:13:22,323
[Ronnie] What about
a client's name?
269
00:13:22,366 --> 00:13:23,977
[Nick] I ain't got a memory
for names me.
270
00:13:24,020 --> 00:13:26,457
That's a shame What did you do
after that?
271
00:13:27,284 --> 00:13:29,112
Er, big job. Belgravia.
272
00:13:29,156 --> 00:13:31,288
Traffic was mental by the time
I got there it was after six.
273
00:13:31,332 --> 00:13:33,464
So I packed it in, headed
for the Westminster Bridge.
274
00:13:34,378 --> 00:13:35,553
What-- to Kennington?
275
00:13:35,597 --> 00:13:37,077
Surely Vauxhall Bridge
would be quicker?
276
00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,992
My mum lives in Deptford.
Went round for dinner.
277
00:13:39,383 --> 00:13:40,820
Who else was there?
278
00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:42,560
Just Mum.
279
00:13:44,432 --> 00:13:46,956
And what time did the party
finish at your mum's?
280
00:13:47,565 --> 00:13:49,916
I dunno. I watched the footie
and left.
281
00:13:51,178 --> 00:13:52,614
And your mum will vouch
that you were there?
282
00:13:52,657 --> 00:13:54,485
She don't need to. Speed cameras
will do that.
283
00:13:54,529 --> 00:13:55,965
I got done on the way there.
284
00:13:56,009 --> 00:13:57,924
Eighty quid and three points.
I was only going forty.
285
00:14:00,361 --> 00:14:02,580
[Matt] No, Nick Carlton
is habitual.
286
00:14:02,624 --> 00:14:03,886
He started off with a tour
287
00:14:03,930 --> 00:14:05,888
of Young Offenders Institutions
at 15,
288
00:14:05,932 --> 00:14:07,237
he graduated with the big boys.
289
00:14:07,281 --> 00:14:09,239
You name a nick
that he hasn't been in.
290
00:14:09,283 --> 00:14:10,980
-What did he do?
-What didn't he do?
291
00:14:11,459 --> 00:14:13,591
Burglary, GBH, hit and run,
292
00:14:13,983 --> 00:14:15,898
one rape charge
that never made it to court,
293
00:14:15,942 --> 00:14:18,292
one that got him eight years,
he served four.
294
00:14:18,335 --> 00:14:20,076
The youngest victim was 20.
295
00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,383
Killing little girls though,
that's-- that's a big leap.
296
00:14:22,426 --> 00:14:24,515
He has been out six years,
and nothing.
297
00:14:24,559 --> 00:14:26,126
Well, maybe prison did him
some good.
298
00:14:26,169 --> 00:14:27,910
Or taught him
how not to get caught.
299
00:14:27,954 --> 00:14:29,433
Did you confirm
that speed camera?
300
00:14:29,477 --> 00:14:30,782
Going 40 in a 30.
301
00:14:30,826 --> 00:14:32,175
[Matt] Doesn't mean
he didn't have a dead girl
302
00:14:32,219 --> 00:14:33,437
in the back of his van.
303
00:14:33,481 --> 00:14:34,612
And he goes straight
on to his mum's house
304
00:14:34,656 --> 00:14:36,179
for a plate of spag bol?
305
00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,312
-Man's got to eat.
-[Natalie] He's got history,
306
00:14:38,355 --> 00:14:40,009
and he was at the scene
of the kidnapping.
307
00:14:40,053 --> 00:14:42,403
-I want you to search his van.
-[Matt] Yeah.
308
00:14:45,232 --> 00:14:47,451
[Teddy] We went through the van
with a fine-tooth comb.
309
00:14:48,061 --> 00:14:50,324
And I checked the material
under the microscope.
310
00:14:50,585 --> 00:14:54,110
-No fibers, no hair.
-[Matt] What? Nothing?
311
00:14:55,242 --> 00:14:56,939
Apart from bad taste in music.
312
00:14:58,549 --> 00:14:59,724
Well, go through it again.
313
00:14:59,768 --> 00:15:01,552
Look, if it was there,
I'd have found it.
314
00:15:01,596 --> 00:15:03,032
[Ronnie] Actually,
that makes sense,
315
00:15:03,076 --> 00:15:04,033
Matt, because...
316
00:15:04,077 --> 00:15:05,643
-[Teddy] Thanks.
-Yeah.
317
00:15:05,687 --> 00:15:07,254
Nick Carlton has been there
and back and brought the T-Shirt
318
00:15:07,297 --> 00:15:08,646
with the old hit and run caper,
wouldn't he?
319
00:15:08,690 --> 00:15:10,213
So the first thing he's gonna do
320
00:15:10,257 --> 00:15:11,954
is book his vehicle
in for a valet.
321
00:15:11,998 --> 00:15:13,695
But Jodie had glass
in her hands.
322
00:15:13,738 --> 00:15:15,044
There must have been
blood there.
323
00:15:15,088 --> 00:15:17,133
They were just abrasions
on her hands
324
00:15:17,177 --> 00:15:18,482
with glass splinters embedded.
325
00:15:19,135 --> 00:15:20,484
No actual blood, I'm afraid.
326
00:15:21,398 --> 00:15:23,052
Look, we've sent the glass
off for analysis.
327
00:15:23,096 --> 00:15:24,445
I've said it's a priority.
328
00:15:25,272 --> 00:15:26,273
Oh, great.
329
00:15:28,536 --> 00:15:29,754
-Cheers, Teddy.
-[Teddy] Thanks.
330
00:15:29,798 --> 00:15:31,191
[Matt] So, what now?
331
00:15:31,234 --> 00:15:33,323
Right. Well, let's check
his alibi. Talk to his mum.
332
00:15:35,456 --> 00:15:37,197
[Mrs. Carlton]
I made roast pork.
333
00:15:37,632 --> 00:15:39,025
It's Nicky's favorite.
334
00:15:39,286 --> 00:15:40,591
[Ronnie] You know what I love,
Mrs. Carlton?
335
00:15:40,635 --> 00:15:42,028
Roast pork sandwiches.
336
00:15:42,637 --> 00:15:44,247
Thick white bread, butter,
you know,
337
00:15:44,291 --> 00:15:46,293
bit of apple sauce, pepper.
Beautiful.
338
00:15:47,381 --> 00:15:48,730
What about your Nicky,
did he make himself
339
00:15:48,773 --> 00:15:50,297
a sandwich before he went
on the road?
340
00:15:50,340 --> 00:15:52,125
I don't know. I went to bed.
341
00:15:53,126 --> 00:15:55,432
-At what time?
-After the news.
342
00:15:56,564 --> 00:15:59,219
Which do you prefer, BBC London,
or London Tonight?
343
00:15:59,610 --> 00:16:01,656
They've all got
the same bad news.
344
00:16:03,136 --> 00:16:04,659
I bet the Hammers
look good on that, don't they?
345
00:16:04,702 --> 00:16:06,487
[Mrs. Carlton] Nicky gave it me
for Christmas.
346
00:16:07,662 --> 00:16:09,055
To watch Chelsea.
347
00:16:09,664 --> 00:16:12,145
[laughs] Oh, Ronnie?
348
00:16:14,451 --> 00:16:15,365
Well, well.
349
00:16:17,585 --> 00:16:19,195
We was only talking about them
the other day.
350
00:16:19,239 --> 00:16:21,589
Mattie was asking me
who uses mothballs nowadays.
351
00:16:21,632 --> 00:16:23,330
[Mrs. Carlton] You get
infestations.
352
00:16:23,721 --> 00:16:26,594
Kept finding
the little blighters all over.
353
00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,249
Coming in through
my airing cupboard.
354
00:16:30,163 --> 00:16:31,512
Mind if we have a look?
355
00:16:32,208 --> 00:16:33,427
[Mrs. Carlton] You already have.
356
00:16:38,562 --> 00:16:40,173
[Ronnie] My old mum had a set
of them.
357
00:16:41,217 --> 00:16:43,176
What's that, two pillowcases
and a bottom sheet?
358
00:16:44,873 --> 00:16:46,396
Top sheet would make the set.
359
00:16:56,363 --> 00:16:57,494
[Ronnie] Not gonna be
a silly boy
360
00:16:57,538 --> 00:16:59,148
and try and do a runner,
are you?
361
00:16:59,583 --> 00:17:01,498
[Matt] No, you're an old hand
at this.
362
00:17:01,542 --> 00:17:02,586
Nicholas Carlton...
363
00:17:03,544 --> 00:17:04,719
I'm arresting you on suspicion
364
00:17:04,762 --> 00:17:07,287
of the kidnap and murder
of Jodie Gaines.
365
00:17:07,548 --> 00:17:09,506
Maybe you'd seen little Jodie
before
366
00:17:09,550 --> 00:17:12,031
-and picked her out especially.
-No comment.
367
00:17:12,379 --> 00:17:13,510
[Ronnie] Look, Nick,
the only thing
368
00:17:13,554 --> 00:17:14,729
that's gonna help you now...
369
00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:17,558
is if you tell us
exactly what happened.
370
00:17:17,601 --> 00:17:18,559
[Matt] Just...
371
00:17:19,777 --> 00:17:21,475
say how sorry
you are for killing Jodie.
372
00:17:21,518 --> 00:17:23,303
-No comment.
-It's your best chance
373
00:17:23,346 --> 00:17:25,044
of avoiding life without parole.
374
00:17:25,348 --> 00:17:26,349
He's right.
375
00:17:26,871 --> 00:17:28,830
If you didn't mean
to kill her...
376
00:17:29,396 --> 00:17:31,050
and it was, say, an accident...
377
00:17:31,746 --> 00:17:33,400
it's a whole other
prison sentence
378
00:17:33,443 --> 00:17:35,097
between manslaughter and murder.
379
00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:37,708
So, was it an accident?
380
00:17:40,189 --> 00:17:41,060
No comment.
381
00:17:42,148 --> 00:17:43,584
Judge gives him life
without parole,
382
00:17:43,627 --> 00:17:44,672
I wanna be there.
383
00:17:44,933 --> 00:17:46,500
I wanna see the whites
of his eyes.
384
00:17:47,196 --> 00:17:49,155
The glass splinters found
in Jodie's hands
385
00:17:49,198 --> 00:17:50,591
are an exact match
386
00:17:50,634 --> 00:17:52,767
with the glass found
in the back of Carlton's van.
387
00:17:55,422 --> 00:17:56,423
Let's charge him.
388
00:18:03,691 --> 00:18:05,214
[Alesha] The defendant has
a catalog
389
00:18:05,258 --> 00:18:07,564
of previous convictions.
Many of them violent.
390
00:18:07,608 --> 00:18:10,219
The Crown believes he poses
a risk to children.
391
00:18:10,263 --> 00:18:12,308
There is no suggestion
that Mr Carlton
392
00:18:12,656 --> 00:18:15,355
has ever committed any offences
against children.
393
00:18:15,790 --> 00:18:18,662
His last conviction
is ten years old.
394
00:18:19,620 --> 00:18:21,187
And, my Lord...
395
00:18:21,665 --> 00:18:24,842
he is the sole carer
for his elderly mother.
396
00:18:33,634 --> 00:18:35,897
[Judge Silverton]
I am reluctantly granting bail
397
00:18:36,332 --> 00:18:38,421
on the following
strict conditions.
398
00:18:38,900 --> 00:18:42,121
Residence at his mother's
address in Deptford.
399
00:18:42,860 --> 00:18:46,821
An electronic tag and curfew
between 6 p.m. and 6 a.m.
400
00:18:46,864 --> 00:18:49,650
And twice daily reporting
to Deptford Police Station.
401
00:18:57,310 --> 00:18:59,660
[crowd shouting]
402
00:19:01,488 --> 00:19:04,273
[indistinct chatter]
403
00:19:08,408 --> 00:19:09,844
[Lennie] They bailed
the bastard.
404
00:19:09,887 --> 00:19:12,238
Lennie, I am so sorry.
We will get him at the trial.
405
00:19:12,281 --> 00:19:14,327
Will you? You said
he wouldn't get bail.
406
00:19:14,718 --> 00:19:18,853
[people shouting]
407
00:19:20,507 --> 00:19:22,161
-Kayleigh.
-[Alesha] No, you stay here.
408
00:19:22,596 --> 00:19:24,511
-Kayleigh.
-[Lennie] Kayleigh.
409
00:19:25,729 --> 00:19:27,818
[cameras click]
410
00:19:35,522 --> 00:19:36,697
[guard] You get back...
411
00:19:40,875 --> 00:19:43,704
[screaming]
412
00:19:49,623 --> 00:19:53,670
-Get an ambulance, somebody.
-[Matt] CID, excuse me.
413
00:19:54,671 --> 00:19:56,673
What's going on? Wait,
you're bleeding.
414
00:19:56,717 --> 00:19:58,371
No, I'm okay. I'm okay.
415
00:19:59,415 --> 00:20:01,678
[sirens wailing]
416
00:20:01,722 --> 00:20:03,419
-Matt.
-Kayleigh.
417
00:20:11,819 --> 00:20:14,604
[sobbing]
418
00:20:31,099 --> 00:20:33,536
-He killed Jodie.
-[Lennie] Shut up, Kayleigh.
419
00:20:35,408 --> 00:20:36,757
[Kayleigh panting]
420
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,541
Just wait for your brief
to get here yeah.
421
00:20:38,585 --> 00:20:39,847
I'm so sorry.
422
00:20:39,890 --> 00:20:42,023
Mrs. Gaines, please just listen
to him, okay?
423
00:20:53,948 --> 00:20:54,949
He's dead.
424
00:20:56,472 --> 00:20:57,560
Nick Carlton's dead.
425
00:21:10,486 --> 00:21:11,487
[Matt] Mrs. Gaines...
426
00:21:13,576 --> 00:21:16,536
I am arresting you on the murder
of Nicholas Carlton.
427
00:21:16,579 --> 00:21:17,841
You do not have
to say anything...
428
00:21:19,495 --> 00:21:20,888
-Are you serious?
-[Matt] ...but it may harm
429
00:21:20,931 --> 00:21:22,585
your defense if you
do not mention when questioned
430
00:21:22,629 --> 00:21:24,500
something that you later rely
on in court.
431
00:21:25,371 --> 00:21:26,459
Anything you do say...
432
00:21:27,373 --> 00:21:28,548
may be given in evidence.
433
00:21:33,466 --> 00:21:34,815
He killed my little girl.
434
00:21:51,832 --> 00:21:53,312
[James] How the hell
did this happen?
435
00:21:53,834 --> 00:21:55,314
[Alesha] It was over in a flash.
436
00:21:55,705 --> 00:21:57,316
Where were
the Family Liaison Officers?
437
00:21:58,055 --> 00:22:00,101
No-one knew that she'd react
like that.
438
00:22:00,493 --> 00:22:02,451
We can't have every victim
of crime
439
00:22:02,495 --> 00:22:03,931
taking the law
into their own hands.
440
00:22:03,974 --> 00:22:06,803
With every van banger
in the country cheering them on.
441
00:22:06,847 --> 00:22:08,805
They're saying that she deserves
an OBE.
442
00:22:08,849 --> 00:22:10,154
Well, it doesn't take
much effort
443
00:22:10,198 --> 00:22:11,068
to put yourself in her shoes.
444
00:22:12,331 --> 00:22:14,811
Yeah, maybe not,
but it can't justify murder.
445
00:22:16,770 --> 00:22:18,337
You wanna try her for murder?
446
00:22:19,686 --> 00:22:20,687
Of course.
447
00:22:22,123 --> 00:22:24,473
What if the next grieving mum
gets herself a gun?
448
00:22:24,517 --> 00:22:25,648
But any jury will see
449
00:22:25,692 --> 00:22:26,954
that she's out of her mind
with grief.
450
00:22:26,997 --> 00:22:29,870
No, no, no, she took a knife
to the Old Bailey.
451
00:22:29,913 --> 00:22:31,001
The whole thing was caught
on camera.
452
00:22:31,045 --> 00:22:32,046
Even so--
453
00:22:32,089 --> 00:22:33,482
Look, we're backed
into a corner.
454
00:22:33,526 --> 00:22:36,006
I know it's tough,
but we have to prosecute.
455
00:22:36,050 --> 00:22:37,660
Except your jury will be wishing
456
00:22:37,704 --> 00:22:39,358
that they'd stabbed him
themselves.
457
00:22:42,883 --> 00:22:44,928
I don't want a big messy trial.
458
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:47,888
Talk to the barrister.
459
00:22:48,628 --> 00:22:49,542
Make a deal.
460
00:22:50,847 --> 00:22:51,935
[Beatrice] My client won't serve
a day for this.
461
00:22:52,545 --> 00:22:54,373
Murder has a minimum tariff,
Bea.
462
00:22:54,764 --> 00:22:56,549
Even you can't magic that away.
463
00:22:56,592 --> 00:22:57,898
Yeah, well, as soon as the jury
464
00:22:57,941 --> 00:22:59,508
get a look
at Nick Carlton's record
465
00:22:59,552 --> 00:23:01,684
they'll be lining up to shake
Kayleigh's hand.
466
00:23:02,555 --> 00:23:04,861
If they ignore the fact that she
stuck a knife in his chest.
467
00:23:04,905 --> 00:23:08,517
The only fact that matters
is that Jodie Gaines is dead
468
00:23:08,561 --> 00:23:10,127
because the criminal justice
system failed
469
00:23:10,171 --> 00:23:11,955
to put scum like Nick Carlton
behind bars.
470
00:23:11,999 --> 00:23:13,479
Now thanks to Kayleigh Gaines,
471
00:23:13,740 --> 00:23:15,829
Mr Carlton's crime spree
is over.
472
00:23:16,264 --> 00:23:18,745
-For good.
-It wasn't up to her to end it.
473
00:23:30,670 --> 00:23:32,106
I'm so sorry.
474
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:33,586
Please, would you leave
the talking to me Mrs. Gaines?
475
00:23:33,629 --> 00:23:35,718
[Kayleigh] All I could see
in my head was Jodie,
476
00:23:36,153 --> 00:23:38,765
-dumped in that skip.
-[Beatrice] Please, Mrs. Gaines.
477
00:23:39,722 --> 00:23:42,203
I kept thinking about her
last minutes alive.
478
00:23:43,509 --> 00:23:44,988
-Where he kept her.
-Please.
479
00:23:45,511 --> 00:23:46,947
[Kayleigh] What he done to her.
480
00:23:50,124 --> 00:23:51,865
How scared she must have been.
481
00:23:54,781 --> 00:23:57,044
I understand why you did it.
482
00:23:58,132 --> 00:23:59,568
-But you killed a man.
-Yeah he was--
483
00:23:59,612 --> 00:24:00,961
-[James] We can't just--
-he was a monster.
484
00:24:03,703 --> 00:24:05,182
[Kayleigh] If he killed
your little girl...
485
00:24:07,620 --> 00:24:09,143
tell me you wouldn't feel
the same.
486
00:24:16,542 --> 00:24:17,543
I'm sorry.
487
00:24:18,282 --> 00:24:19,806
We're charging murder.
488
00:24:24,898 --> 00:24:26,116
You know, I've always found
489
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,989
your inflexibility
truly irritating, James.
490
00:24:29,250 --> 00:24:30,730
Then please don't let me
keep you.
491
00:24:31,861 --> 00:24:33,559
Manslaughter provocation,
have we got ourselves a deal?
492
00:24:33,907 --> 00:24:35,909
This was a straight up
revenge killing, Bea.
493
00:24:36,170 --> 00:24:38,651
-You know it.
-You think she wasn't provoked?
494
00:24:39,216 --> 00:24:41,567
He kidnapped and murdered
her only child.
495
00:24:41,610 --> 00:24:42,959
No, that hadn't been proved.
496
00:24:43,003 --> 00:24:44,700
Nick Carlton died
an innocent man.
497
00:24:44,744 --> 00:24:46,615
Well, why don't you tell that
to the jury?
498
00:24:46,659 --> 00:24:49,183
We are on the side
of the angels, James.
499
00:24:49,749 --> 00:24:51,664
You force murder trial
and you're the one
500
00:24:51,707 --> 00:24:53,274
who's gonna end up with egg
on his face.
501
00:25:00,934 --> 00:25:02,196
[Alesha] You shouldn't let her
get to you.
502
00:25:02,239 --> 00:25:03,980
-[James] I don't.
-[Alesha] Really?
503
00:25:04,024 --> 00:25:07,070
-George said to make a deal.
-Kayleigh Gaines should do time.
504
00:25:07,593 --> 00:25:09,551
Manslaughter provocation carries
a custodial.
505
00:25:09,595 --> 00:25:10,944
She could get 12 years.
506
00:25:10,987 --> 00:25:12,728
-Or as little as 12 months.
-Isn't that enough?
507
00:25:12,772 --> 00:25:14,295
She lost a child, James.
508
00:25:14,338 --> 00:25:15,905
It doesn't change the fact
that she killed Nick Carlton.
509
00:25:15,949 --> 00:25:18,038
-What if he was innocent?
-She believed he was guilty.
510
00:25:18,081 --> 00:25:19,605
[James] Totally irrelevant.
Kayleigh Gaines
511
00:25:19,648 --> 00:25:21,694
will get a fair trial,
the chance of rehabilitation.
512
00:25:21,737 --> 00:25:23,173
Nick Carlton deserved the same.
513
00:25:23,870 --> 00:25:26,525
All I'm asking is that we show
a little mercy.
514
00:25:29,832 --> 00:25:31,878
It isn't up to us to show mercy,
Alesha.
515
00:25:33,053 --> 00:25:34,097
So, what do we do?
516
00:25:35,577 --> 00:25:38,145
We do what she should have done.
We let a jury decide.
517
00:25:40,930 --> 00:25:43,063
Did you see the tabloids
this morning?
518
00:25:44,107 --> 00:25:45,587
They're giving out
pull out posters
519
00:25:45,631 --> 00:25:46,980
to put in your window.
520
00:25:48,198 --> 00:25:49,243
"Kayleigh's our hero."
521
00:25:50,505 --> 00:25:51,898
Yeah, I can undress myself.
Thank you, Bea.
522
00:25:53,639 --> 00:25:54,683
You'll never win.
523
00:25:55,249 --> 00:25:56,903
The whole nation's on her side.
524
00:25:57,817 --> 00:25:58,992
I'll take my chances.
525
00:25:59,035 --> 00:26:01,037
[Beatrice] It's not too late,
you know.
526
00:26:01,081 --> 00:26:03,039
You just say
those two little words
527
00:26:03,083 --> 00:26:05,694
and the trial just disappears
just like that.
528
00:26:07,304 --> 00:26:09,306
Manslaughter provocation.
529
00:26:11,787 --> 00:26:13,920
The charge is murder.
530
00:26:14,398 --> 00:26:15,574
Oh, come on.
531
00:26:16,618 --> 00:26:18,664
What's a little provocation
between friends?
532
00:26:21,971 --> 00:26:23,059
Gloves off, then.
533
00:26:26,106 --> 00:26:27,760
[Mrs. Carlton] Nick
was my only child.
534
00:26:28,935 --> 00:26:32,329
After my husband passed away,
Nick looked after me.
535
00:26:33,113 --> 00:26:35,942
Your son had convictions
for violence, didn't he?
536
00:26:36,333 --> 00:26:38,684
[Mrs. Carlton] I never said
he was a saint.
537
00:26:39,293 --> 00:26:41,861
If he had anything to do
with that little girl's death,
538
00:26:41,904 --> 00:26:44,254
then he should've gone
to prison, no question.
539
00:26:45,821 --> 00:26:47,214
I could've lived with that.
540
00:26:49,303 --> 00:26:50,304
But this...
541
00:26:53,437 --> 00:26:56,005
who gave you the right
to play God?
542
00:26:56,049 --> 00:26:59,095
Mrs. Carlton, just answer
Counsel's questions, please.
543
00:27:02,708 --> 00:27:04,927
Her little girl's dead,
and I'm sorry.
544
00:27:08,148 --> 00:27:10,716
But who was she to kill my son?
545
00:27:16,199 --> 00:27:18,332
He was my baby.
546
00:27:22,379 --> 00:27:23,642
[Beatrice] After your divorce,
547
00:27:23,685 --> 00:27:26,732
the family court gave
you custody of Jodie.
548
00:27:27,515 --> 00:27:29,125
They said Kayleigh was unfit.
549
00:27:30,170 --> 00:27:31,127
Why was that?
550
00:27:31,737 --> 00:27:33,086
[Lennie] When she had Jodie...
551
00:27:33,390 --> 00:27:35,349
the anesthetist botched
the epidural.
552
00:27:37,351 --> 00:27:39,092
Messed up a nerve in her back.
553
00:27:40,746 --> 00:27:42,051
GP gave her painkillers.
554
00:27:43,749 --> 00:27:45,794
But Kayleigh had a problem
getting off them.
555
00:27:46,229 --> 00:27:49,145
Is it right Kayleigh was born
addicted to crack cocaine?
556
00:27:51,104 --> 00:27:52,018
Yeah.
557
00:27:53,497 --> 00:27:54,934
[Beatrice] And we heard
from our expert witness earlier
558
00:27:54,977 --> 00:27:57,719
that crack babies have
a predisposition to addictions.
559
00:27:57,763 --> 00:27:59,155
So it must have been no surprise
560
00:27:59,199 --> 00:28:02,376
when Kayleigh became addicted
to the painkillers.
561
00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:04,465
She was addicted within weeks.
562
00:28:07,207 --> 00:28:08,774
But she got off 'em.
563
00:28:08,817 --> 00:28:11,907
[Beatrice] After her recovery,
what sort of mother was she?
564
00:28:14,301 --> 00:28:15,215
Good one.
565
00:28:18,958 --> 00:28:19,872
Loving one.
566
00:28:22,048 --> 00:28:23,266
[Beatrice] No further questions.
567
00:28:28,271 --> 00:28:31,840
Having gained custody of Jodie
seven years ago...
568
00:28:32,885 --> 00:28:35,235
you've been her sole carer,
haven't you?
569
00:28:35,801 --> 00:28:37,150
-That's right.
-[James] So surely...
570
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,850
you're the one who must feel
the loss of Jodie most acutely.
571
00:28:42,416 --> 00:28:44,244
You're the one who must feel
most...
572
00:28:45,985 --> 00:28:46,899
provoked.
573
00:28:48,814 --> 00:28:50,903
-Yeah, I suppose so.
-[James] And yet...
574
00:28:51,555 --> 00:28:53,906
you didn't feel like killing
Mr Carlton.
575
00:28:56,299 --> 00:28:57,736
I'm not a violent man.
576
00:28:58,867 --> 00:29:00,216
I couldn't do something
like that.
577
00:29:00,260 --> 00:29:01,304
[James] No, you couldn't.
578
00:29:02,915 --> 00:29:05,352
Provoked or not, no normal,
decent person could, could they?
579
00:29:05,395 --> 00:29:08,572
Is my learned friend
making a speech already, M'Lord?
580
00:29:08,616 --> 00:29:12,185
Mr Steel, plenty of time
for speeches later.
581
00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:26,416
[George] On count one,
the murder of Nicholas Carlton,
582
00:29:26,460 --> 00:29:29,506
do you find the defendant
guilty or not guilty?
583
00:29:30,638 --> 00:29:31,770
Not guilty.
584
00:29:33,032 --> 00:29:34,033
[George] On count two...
585
00:29:35,208 --> 00:29:37,297
the manslaughter
of Nicholas Carlton,
586
00:29:37,558 --> 00:29:40,343
do you find the defendant
guilty or not guilty?
587
00:29:43,259 --> 00:29:44,173
Guilty.
588
00:29:56,142 --> 00:29:58,144
[Judge DeMarco] A man lost
his life.
589
00:29:59,493 --> 00:30:01,582
He may indeed
have been responsible
590
00:30:01,625 --> 00:30:03,497
for the death
of Mrs. Gaines' daughter.
591
00:30:04,890 --> 00:30:06,543
But it is not one person's right
592
00:30:06,587 --> 00:30:08,415
to end the life of another.
593
00:30:11,548 --> 00:30:13,594
This offence is clearly
so serious...
594
00:30:14,334 --> 00:30:15,944
only custody is appropriate.
595
00:30:17,641 --> 00:30:20,514
The sentence I pass is one
of 12 months in prison.
596
00:30:26,259 --> 00:30:27,260
Mrs. Gaines.
597
00:30:29,262 --> 00:30:31,220
No doubt the real punishment
for you
598
00:30:31,264 --> 00:30:33,266
is to bear the loss
of your daughter.
599
00:30:36,182 --> 00:30:37,574
You have my deepest sympathy.
600
00:30:40,577 --> 00:30:43,145
The sentence is wholly suspended
for two years.
601
00:31:01,076 --> 00:31:02,556
[James] He might as well have
congratulated her
602
00:31:02,599 --> 00:31:04,036
on hitting a major artery.
603
00:31:05,689 --> 00:31:06,995
[George] Does that judge have
any idea what he did in there?
604
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:08,431
We go through all this,
and for what?
605
00:31:08,954 --> 00:31:10,564
To hand
a get-out-of-jail-free card
606
00:31:10,607 --> 00:31:13,219
to every knife-wielding maniac
who cries provocation?
607
00:31:13,959 --> 00:31:14,960
Maybe not.
608
00:31:18,050 --> 00:31:18,964
[Ronnie] Alesha.
609
00:31:20,095 --> 00:31:21,705
Just to let you know.
We found out,
610
00:31:21,749 --> 00:31:24,578
uh, Kayleigh Gaines was treated
for heroin addiction last year.
611
00:31:25,231 --> 00:31:26,536
Well, maybe she went
one step further
612
00:31:26,580 --> 00:31:28,321
when the GP called time
on her pain killers.
613
00:31:28,364 --> 00:31:29,888
[Ronnie] Maybe,
but it's not the what,
614
00:31:29,931 --> 00:31:32,325
it's the where. And it was
at the Grovewood rehab Clinic.
615
00:31:32,368 --> 00:31:33,587
So she went to Grovewood.
616
00:31:34,457 --> 00:31:36,068
The trial's over.
What does it matter?
617
00:31:36,590 --> 00:31:38,026
Well, she had company.
618
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:39,723
Nick Carlton's boss,
Farris Andreou,
619
00:31:39,767 --> 00:31:41,464
also dried out at the Grovewood.
620
00:31:45,425 --> 00:31:47,688
[Lena] Kayleigh Gaines
and Farris Andreou
621
00:31:47,731 --> 00:31:49,995
both went through rehab
last year.
622
00:31:50,996 --> 00:31:52,388
Kayleigh was NHS funded.
623
00:31:53,128 --> 00:31:54,390
[Alesha] So Farris Andreou knew
624
00:31:54,434 --> 00:31:55,914
that Kayleigh Gaines
had a daughter.
625
00:31:56,349 --> 00:31:58,264
Whatever he knew
about her personal life
626
00:31:58,307 --> 00:32:00,135
didn't need to come
from the sessions.
627
00:32:00,614 --> 00:32:01,615
They had an affair.
628
00:32:02,442 --> 00:32:04,096
They broke a cardinal rule.
629
00:32:05,010 --> 00:32:06,228
We asked them to leave.
630
00:32:08,404 --> 00:32:10,929
She had to know Andreou
was Nick Carlton's boss.
631
00:32:12,408 --> 00:32:14,062
Do you think all three of them
were involved?
632
00:32:15,150 --> 00:32:16,673
Be a hell of a coincidence
if they weren't.
633
00:32:17,457 --> 00:32:18,545
Why else hide it?
634
00:32:22,070 --> 00:32:24,072
The Italian doctor had the hots
for me.
635
00:32:24,116 --> 00:32:25,595
I knocked her back.
She got it in her head
636
00:32:25,639 --> 00:32:26,988
I was getting
it on with Kayleigh.
637
00:32:27,032 --> 00:32:29,121
[Ronnie] Who you forgot
to mention that you knew.
638
00:32:30,165 --> 00:32:31,210
We know you've been inside.
639
00:32:33,038 --> 00:32:34,996
Yeah, for tax evasion,
like white collar stuff.
640
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,128
And is that where you met
641
00:32:36,171 --> 00:32:37,738
Nick Carlton? When you was
in prison?
642
00:32:37,781 --> 00:32:39,479
[Farris] We were pad mates,
till he pissed the screws off
643
00:32:39,522 --> 00:32:40,784
and got ghosted
out to Ashbridge.
644
00:32:40,828 --> 00:32:42,047
[Ronnie] And after that, what?
645
00:32:42,090 --> 00:32:43,700
You became pen pals then,
did you?
646
00:32:43,744 --> 00:32:45,050
[Farris] He came knocking
on my door looking for a job,
647
00:32:45,093 --> 00:32:46,790
I felt sorry for him.
648
00:32:46,834 --> 00:32:49,489
[Ronnie] And you often employ
convicted rapists, do you?
649
00:32:50,794 --> 00:32:51,970
What are you talking about?
650
00:32:53,014 --> 00:32:54,189
[Matt] The young woman
Nick Carlton raped.
651
00:32:55,756 --> 00:32:57,323
She woke up and found him
sitting on the end of her bed.
652
00:32:57,366 --> 00:32:58,280
[Farris] No.
653
00:32:59,586 --> 00:33:01,153
-He wouldn't.
-[Matt] He did.
654
00:33:01,849 --> 00:33:03,155
He tied her up.
655
00:33:03,416 --> 00:33:04,634
He gagged her,
would you believe,
656
00:33:04,678 --> 00:33:06,114
just to stop her screaming
657
00:33:06,158 --> 00:33:07,768
so her flat mates wouldn't hear
and then he raped her.
658
00:33:11,641 --> 00:33:13,252
Carlton was in for fraud.
659
00:33:13,295 --> 00:33:15,080
He swindled
some insurance company.
660
00:33:15,123 --> 00:33:16,342
Well, if you bought that story,
661
00:33:16,385 --> 00:33:18,387
the only bum being swindled,
Farris, was you.
662
00:33:18,431 --> 00:33:20,346
He'd've been on the rule,
wouldn't he, the nonces wing?
663
00:33:20,389 --> 00:33:22,000
[Ronnie] Well,
maybe he had friends.
664
00:33:22,609 --> 00:33:24,567
Friends like you, just turn
a blind eye.
665
00:33:24,611 --> 00:33:27,440
No, you have to believe me. I--
if I'd known he raped anyone,
666
00:33:27,483 --> 00:33:29,485
I wouldn't have given him
the time of day let alone a job.
667
00:33:29,529 --> 00:33:31,139
You're facing quite
a few charges here, Farris.
668
00:33:31,183 --> 00:33:32,532
Look, I didn't know he was
a nonce,
669
00:33:32,575 --> 00:33:34,012
-you've gotta believe me.
-[Matt] There's kidnap,
670
00:33:34,055 --> 00:33:36,492
conspiracy to murder, perverting
the course of justice.
671
00:33:39,539 --> 00:33:41,541
"To thine own self be true,
672
00:33:41,584 --> 00:33:44,631
and it must follow,
as the night, the day...
673
00:33:46,328 --> 00:33:49,331
thou canst not then be false
to any man."
674
00:33:50,854 --> 00:33:52,030
I mean that quote from Hamlet
675
00:33:52,073 --> 00:33:52,813
gets us through another day,
doesn't it?
676
00:33:54,249 --> 00:33:57,035
We be honest with ourselves,
and we can stay sober.
677
00:33:58,558 --> 00:34:01,169
Gotta be honest with others too.
Haven't you, Farris?
678
00:34:02,910 --> 00:34:04,564
Only then are we truly healed.
679
00:34:07,219 --> 00:34:09,525
So... what have you
and Kayleigh Gaines
680
00:34:09,569 --> 00:34:10,831
been hiding from us?
681
00:34:16,706 --> 00:34:17,707
I owed her.
682
00:34:20,536 --> 00:34:22,234
They kicked her out of rehab
because of me.
683
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,717
But I only gave her
Nick Carlton's phone number.
684
00:34:28,414 --> 00:34:30,851
I swear to God,
that is all I did.
685
00:34:31,678 --> 00:34:33,201
Okay, for the tape,
686
00:34:33,245 --> 00:34:35,769
Farris Andreou, who did you give
687
00:34:35,812 --> 00:34:37,423
Nick Carlton's telephone number
to?
688
00:34:41,731 --> 00:34:42,645
Kayleigh.
689
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:45,561
It was all Kayleigh.
690
00:34:47,259 --> 00:34:48,738
[Farris] She said she wanted
Nick Carlton
691
00:34:48,782 --> 00:34:50,392
to do something for her.
692
00:34:51,959 --> 00:34:55,093
Could she have hired Carlton
to snatch Jodie?
693
00:34:55,963 --> 00:34:57,095
Why would she?
694
00:34:58,487 --> 00:34:59,793
[Matt] Kayleigh... be straight
with us.
695
00:35:00,663 --> 00:35:01,621
[Kayleigh] Me and Farris?
696
00:35:04,624 --> 00:35:06,365
It was just a fling.
697
00:35:07,366 --> 00:35:10,630
He reckons you and Nick Carlton
were in it together.
698
00:35:11,631 --> 00:35:12,675
What?
699
00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:15,635
Why-- why would he say that?
700
00:35:18,333 --> 00:35:19,291
He's lying.
701
00:35:23,686 --> 00:35:25,514
Why is he doing this to me?
702
00:35:25,775 --> 00:35:27,255
[Matt] Farris reckons
that you were trying
703
00:35:27,299 --> 00:35:28,474
to get back at Lennie...
704
00:35:29,475 --> 00:35:31,303
'cause he wouldn't let you see
Jodie.
705
00:35:31,564 --> 00:35:32,565
We get on.
706
00:35:33,348 --> 00:35:35,481
-Me and Lennie--
-[Ronnie] Kayleigh.
707
00:35:38,223 --> 00:35:39,572
How can you even think...
708
00:35:44,664 --> 00:35:45,839
What mum...
709
00:35:46,709 --> 00:35:49,190
could do that to her own kid?
710
00:35:50,713 --> 00:35:52,324
Do you think she's telling
the truth?
711
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,893
What do you think?
Could it be an act?
712
00:35:59,244 --> 00:36:00,680
[Ronnie] Honestly, I don't know.
713
00:36:02,247 --> 00:36:03,161
[Alesha] So, what now?
714
00:36:04,466 --> 00:36:05,815
You wanna know
if someone's telling the truth,
715
00:36:05,859 --> 00:36:08,166
you talk to the person
who knows them best.
716
00:36:10,951 --> 00:36:13,606
Do you... really think...
717
00:36:14,607 --> 00:36:15,869
Kayleigh did this?
718
00:36:20,352 --> 00:36:21,353
I'm sorry.
719
00:36:22,919 --> 00:36:24,269
I can't take this in.
720
00:36:25,879 --> 00:36:27,185
[James] At the trial...
721
00:36:28,577 --> 00:36:30,536
you swore she was a good mother.
722
00:36:34,540 --> 00:36:35,845
She was hurting enough.
723
00:36:38,370 --> 00:36:40,589
Just said what her barrister
told me to say.
724
00:36:43,549 --> 00:36:45,855
What didn't you say, Lennie?
725
00:36:48,336 --> 00:36:49,381
There was this time...
726
00:36:50,773 --> 00:36:53,211
she was late bringing
Jodie back. 12 hours late.
727
00:36:53,733 --> 00:36:55,909
Kayleigh had taken her down
to Hastings.
728
00:36:56,301 --> 00:36:59,565
Locked her up in some hole
of a B&B and gone off to...
729
00:37:02,481 --> 00:37:03,395
to score.
730
00:37:05,353 --> 00:37:08,269
-She was using again.
-Jodie was terrified.
731
00:37:08,922 --> 00:37:11,620
She said it was like Mummy
was asleep with her eyes open.
732
00:37:12,534 --> 00:37:13,796
So I stopped the visits.
733
00:37:16,756 --> 00:37:18,366
You should have told the police.
734
00:37:19,498 --> 00:37:20,412
I know.
735
00:37:25,025 --> 00:37:28,246
Please, God, tell me
she's not involved.
736
00:37:28,594 --> 00:37:30,378
Now I saw these interviews.
737
00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:33,338
The appeal. She was shaking
with grief.
738
00:37:33,990 --> 00:37:35,644
[James] It wasn't grief.
739
00:37:36,515 --> 00:37:37,516
It was withdrawal.
740
00:37:39,126 --> 00:37:40,867
But why would she stop using
just when she needed it most?
741
00:37:40,910 --> 00:37:42,434
The stress must have been
enormous.
742
00:37:42,477 --> 00:37:43,696
[George] She wouldn't have
any choice.
743
00:37:44,087 --> 00:37:46,089
The minute Jodie
was reported missing,
744
00:37:46,133 --> 00:37:49,310
she had Family Liaison Officers
with her day and night.
745
00:37:49,354 --> 00:37:50,790
Oh, why didn't we see it?
746
00:37:50,833 --> 00:37:53,575
The thing about addicts
is they make very good liars.
747
00:37:53,619 --> 00:37:55,403
So the police knew
it was someone close.
748
00:37:55,447 --> 00:37:57,927
-They just got the wrong parent.
-The question is, why?
749
00:37:59,059 --> 00:38:00,930
What could possibly drive her
750
00:38:00,974 --> 00:38:02,976
to have her own daughter
kidnapped?
751
00:38:03,019 --> 00:38:03,933
[Ronnie] Kayleigh.
752
00:38:07,633 --> 00:38:10,331
That mobile phone was found
in your flat.
753
00:38:10,375 --> 00:38:13,073
Hidden inside
a resealed milk carton.
754
00:38:13,116 --> 00:38:15,771
The phone is registered
to a Mrs. Gemma Miller.
755
00:38:15,815 --> 00:38:17,686
Now we've been in touch
with Mrs. Miller
756
00:38:17,730 --> 00:38:19,732
and she confirms that she sold
the phone
757
00:38:19,775 --> 00:38:22,561
via an online auction site
to a Kayleigh Gaines.
758
00:38:23,997 --> 00:38:24,998
This...
759
00:38:27,087 --> 00:38:30,786
is a record of the call traffic
between that mobile phone
760
00:38:30,830 --> 00:38:31,831
and Nick Carlton's.
761
00:38:33,049 --> 00:38:34,877
We also know you were texting
each other
762
00:38:34,921 --> 00:38:38,359
like a couple of teenagers
the week Jodie went missing.
763
00:38:39,012 --> 00:38:40,796
Well, I did buy that phone,
yeah,
764
00:38:41,057 --> 00:38:43,495
but it was nicked the day
I got it.
765
00:38:43,930 --> 00:38:46,062
Maybe Farris took it.
I was thinking--
766
00:38:46,498 --> 00:38:48,021
Farris and Nick Carlton,
767
00:38:48,064 --> 00:38:49,544
maybe they was in on it
together.
768
00:38:49,588 --> 00:38:50,850
The problem here, Kayleigh...
769
00:38:51,807 --> 00:38:54,462
is that we can tell the location
of the calls
770
00:38:54,506 --> 00:38:56,377
as well as the phone
they came from.
771
00:38:56,421 --> 00:38:58,901
The calls from your phone
came...
772
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:01,513
from your flat.
773
00:39:06,518 --> 00:39:09,956
So, you see, Kayleigh, we know
you're involved.
774
00:39:16,441 --> 00:39:18,138
-Kayleigh?
-All right.
775
00:39:35,547 --> 00:39:37,113
He was only supposed
to hide her.
776
00:40:01,790 --> 00:40:03,575
[James] Kayleigh hired
a sex offender
777
00:40:03,618 --> 00:40:04,793
to snatch Jodie off the street
778
00:40:04,837 --> 00:40:06,447
and keep her hidden
for six days.
779
00:40:06,839 --> 00:40:08,710
That's kidnap,
false imprisonment,
780
00:40:08,754 --> 00:40:10,190
and the child cruelty involved
781
00:40:10,233 --> 00:40:12,018
makes it
unlawful act manslaughter.
782
00:40:12,061 --> 00:40:13,236
Well, hang on though.
783
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,238
Jodie died as a result
of being gagged.
784
00:40:15,282 --> 00:40:17,850
Are we saying that Kayleigh knew
Carlton would gag Jodie?
785
00:40:17,893 --> 00:40:19,895
You can add perverting
the course of justice
786
00:40:19,939 --> 00:40:22,028
to that list 'cause the woman
is a born liar.
787
00:40:22,594 --> 00:40:24,247
So we charge her
with all four offences.
788
00:40:24,291 --> 00:40:26,728
Yes, but if you do...
we do it right.
789
00:40:27,512 --> 00:40:29,035
She will change her story
ten times
790
00:40:29,078 --> 00:40:30,645
before she gets
into that witness box,
791
00:40:30,689 --> 00:40:32,734
so you need to corroborate
these witnesses.
792
00:40:35,607 --> 00:40:37,913
[Alesha] Mrs. Carlton, the
police are going to charge you
793
00:40:37,957 --> 00:40:40,002
-with assisting an offender.
-[Mrs. Carlton] Oh...
794
00:40:41,047 --> 00:40:41,961
that's rich.
795
00:40:43,876 --> 00:40:45,965
Lock me up, a pensioner.
796
00:40:46,879 --> 00:40:50,143
While that murdering bitch
walks around free as you like.
797
00:40:51,100 --> 00:40:52,145
Did your son--
798
00:40:52,624 --> 00:40:54,669
did he tell you
why Kayleigh Gaines
799
00:40:54,713 --> 00:40:55,844
wanted Jodie kidnapped?
800
00:41:04,636 --> 00:41:06,725
The more you can tell us
about her involvement...
801
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:10,119
the greater chance we have
of putting her behind bars.
802
00:41:12,078 --> 00:41:14,646
If Nick... said anything.
803
00:41:18,214 --> 00:41:19,912
After the girl got sick...
804
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,132
Nick said he called Mrs. Gaines.
805
00:41:24,133 --> 00:41:26,005
Told her that they needed
a doctor.
806
00:41:28,094 --> 00:41:31,271
He wanted to take her himself,
but she, Mrs. Gaines,
807
00:41:31,314 --> 00:41:32,620
she said no.
808
00:41:34,361 --> 00:41:38,191
Said they'd both get sent down,
if anyone found out.
809
00:41:39,105 --> 00:41:41,063
Nick told Mrs. Gaines
that the girl
810
00:41:41,107 --> 00:41:43,762
was crying and making
a lot of noise.
811
00:41:46,808 --> 00:41:47,809
She said...
812
00:41:49,724 --> 00:41:51,030
"Tape her mouth up.
813
00:41:52,248 --> 00:41:53,511
Stop her whining."
814
00:41:58,690 --> 00:42:00,169
[Kayleigh] It was only meant
to be a week.
815
00:42:01,693 --> 00:42:02,868
Fortnight, tops.
816
00:42:03,912 --> 00:42:05,740
[James] You were prepared...
817
00:42:05,784 --> 00:42:08,700
to let a total stranger look
after Jodie for two weeks?
818
00:42:09,614 --> 00:42:10,789
It was a nice flat.
819
00:42:12,268 --> 00:42:14,923
She had everything she needed.
Telly, Xbox, the lot.
820
00:42:16,795 --> 00:42:18,013
Nick Carlton
821
00:42:18,057 --> 00:42:20,233
was a convicted rapist,
wasn't he?
822
00:42:20,712 --> 00:42:22,191
Yeah, but he never touched her,
did he?
823
00:42:22,801 --> 00:42:25,673
The police said
she weren't abused.
824
00:42:26,631 --> 00:42:30,243
You stabbed Nick Carlton
to cover up your involvement,
825
00:42:30,286 --> 00:42:31,244
didn't you?
826
00:42:32,506 --> 00:42:34,073
Stabbed him 'cause he killed
my little girl.
827
00:42:35,248 --> 00:42:36,858
Papers called me a hero.
828
00:42:40,645 --> 00:42:41,950
I'm still the same person.
829
00:42:43,256 --> 00:42:46,302
Yes. Yes, you are.
830
00:42:51,656 --> 00:42:54,659
Why did you get Nick Carlton
to kidnap Jodie?
831
00:42:57,749 --> 00:42:58,750
It was Farris.
832
00:43:00,055 --> 00:43:01,013
It was his idea.
833
00:43:03,798 --> 00:43:05,104
When a kid goes missing,
834
00:43:05,757 --> 00:43:07,585
the papers wanna talk
to the mum, don't they?
835
00:43:09,195 --> 00:43:10,196
Farris said,
836
00:43:11,806 --> 00:43:14,287
"If there was a happy ending,
papers would pay a fortune."
837
00:43:16,463 --> 00:43:18,073
You put Jodie's life at risk,
838
00:43:18,117 --> 00:43:19,379
just so you could sell
your story?
839
00:43:21,163 --> 00:43:22,643
I didn't know he'd kill her,
did I?
840
00:43:23,862 --> 00:43:26,081
Kayleigh, make me understand
why you would risk her life.
841
00:43:26,125 --> 00:43:28,040
What did you need the money for?
842
00:43:40,966 --> 00:43:42,837
I wanted to be a proper mum.
843
00:43:48,103 --> 00:43:49,801
The kind I never had.
844
00:43:58,461 --> 00:44:00,855
She grew inside me, all safe.
845
00:44:01,943 --> 00:44:02,944
And then...
846
00:44:04,163 --> 00:44:06,121
the minute she was born,
it all went wrong.
847
00:44:11,387 --> 00:44:13,912
Lennie just took her away
from me.
848
00:44:15,087 --> 00:44:17,263
He just... took over.
849
00:44:23,399 --> 00:44:26,402
I kept trying to find
my way back, but I couldn't.
850
00:44:35,063 --> 00:44:36,412
I needed the money...
851
00:44:37,849 --> 00:44:39,067
to pay for rehab.
852
00:44:41,069 --> 00:44:42,680
I was all booked in. I...
853
00:44:43,811 --> 00:44:45,030
I was gonna get clean...
854
00:44:45,900 --> 00:44:47,685
so I could be with Jodie again.
855
00:44:48,381 --> 00:44:51,340
Then why didn't you do it
the right way, the normal way?
856
00:44:51,384 --> 00:44:53,125
Get clean,
and then prove yourself
857
00:44:53,168 --> 00:44:55,127
-to the courts?
-Well, how?
858
00:44:56,302 --> 00:44:58,391
The NHS wouldn't fund me twice.
859
00:44:59,435 --> 00:45:00,698
I begged for help.
860
00:45:01,046 --> 00:45:03,178
I screamed and shouted for it.
861
00:45:03,222 --> 00:45:04,702
But nobody listened.
862
00:45:05,180 --> 00:45:07,313
Because people like you,
863
00:45:08,140 --> 00:45:09,141
like her...
864
00:45:11,970 --> 00:45:14,059
all of you, you don't see me.
865
00:45:20,195 --> 00:45:23,372
I'm that bit of shit
on the pavement you step around,
866
00:45:23,416 --> 00:45:25,200
so you don't mess up your shoes.
867
00:45:28,203 --> 00:45:31,032
I was gonna get clean
and take her away
868
00:45:31,598 --> 00:45:34,340
We were going to Ibiza.
Me and Jodie.
869
00:45:34,949 --> 00:45:38,083
Far away from London and Lennie.
And the drugs.
870
00:45:39,301 --> 00:45:42,740
So we could be together.
So I could be her mum again.
871
00:45:43,044 --> 00:45:45,220
You were going
to take that little girl away
872
00:45:45,264 --> 00:45:47,440
from the only loving parent
she knew?
873
00:45:47,483 --> 00:45:48,876
I loved her more than he did.
874
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,791
You didn't think twice
about the trauma
875
00:45:50,835 --> 00:45:52,184
of being snatched off the street
876
00:45:52,227 --> 00:45:54,229
-by a total stranger.
-No, it wasn't like that.
877
00:45:54,273 --> 00:45:56,405
You didn't lose a wink of sleep
at the thought of Jodie,
878
00:45:56,449 --> 00:45:57,885
shoved in the back of a van,
879
00:45:57,929 --> 00:45:59,408
tied up, her mouth taped shut,
did you?
880
00:45:59,452 --> 00:46:01,106
-No, you're wrong!
-And all because you wanted
881
00:46:01,149 --> 00:46:02,934
to be a proper mum again.
882
00:46:08,461 --> 00:46:10,768
You don't deserve to be a mum.
883
00:46:59,294 --> 00:47:01,166
[woman] Shame on you!
884
00:47:01,949 --> 00:47:04,996
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