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Hi, is this Nora Sand? Yes. Great.

I'm Detective Inspector Spencer from the Metropolitan Police in London.

Do you have a moment? Yeah, sure.

We've been contacted by a solicitor for William Hickley.

He'd like to talk to you regarding your article.

He's a convicted serial killer

serving a life sentence over here in England.

He says he has some new information regarding the case.

So he read my piece on Lisbeth and Lulu?

I'm not sure how he came across your name,

but he specifically asked for you to come and talk to him.

And he's been locked up for how long?He was arrested in '85.

I know this is a lot to take in, but would you think about it?

Call me back. Yeah, sure. Thank you very much.

SHE TRANSLATES INTO DANISH:

SCHOOL BELL RINGS

LAUGHTER

PA: Ladies and gentlemen, we'll be landing at Heathrow in 20 minutes.

Please put your seat back upright and fasten your seatbelt.

I read that he was only convicted of two murders.

Technically, there were only two.

But he confessed to 15.

It's a little unclear to me.

Never had a chance to properly go through the case with him.

To me, it was just another case in the archive.

Something I never thought would be relevant again.

But why was he only convicted of two murders?

Those were the only two the prosecution focused on.

The evidence was strong and clear.

It's a well known strategy from prosecutors.

By narrowing down the charge more than necessary,

what they're actually doing is telling the jury

that "Here, we are very, very certain."

And you know how things were at the time.

New public management for the police.

It was still Thatcher's Britain.

Everything was subject to cost-benefit analysis.

Everyone knew that Hicks was mad

and that it was impossible to verify everything he claimed to have done.

So the most important thing

was to use the necessary resources to lock him away for ever.

Two murders were more than enough.

And now he's got information about two Danish girls.

To be honest, I'm very sceptical about everything he says.

What's most likely,

and this is his modus operandi from what I understand -

he lies to get attention.

DOOR OPENS

DOOR SLAMS SHUT

I'm Nora Sand.

I've come here from Denmark because you wanted to talk to me.

I took the photos.

Any idea how copies could end up with me?

Probably one of my fans.

Where did you meet Lisbeth Morgensen and Lulu Brandt?

On the ferry.

What ferry? Between Esbjerg and Harwich.

What happened to the girls? I killed them.

I need evidence.

Facts.

I suggest we start

by clarifying our expectations -

what we all want to get out of this meeting.

Whatever happens, you're going to be locked up here

for the rest of your life.

You have no opportunity for parole.

Nor do you claim to be innocent.

So that can't be why...

..you want to talk.

How do I know that you...

..actually took those photos?

That this is not something that you are just making up?

As I see it, there are two possibilities.

One is that you want to talk to me because you...

..want to unburden your conscience.

But I have the feeling

that your conscience is not something you are struggling with,

since you could have put all of your cards on the table ages ago,

instead of letting the...

..victims' families live in uncertainty.

The other possibility is...

..that you want more attention.

Disappointed?

No.

We have a suspect in Denmark already.

The, er...the assistant coach?

Yeah.

And the evidence is piling up against him.

How do you think Hicks became aware of you?

What do you mean?

How did he get hold of the article you wrote about Lisbeth and Lulu?

I don't know.

But everything is online now, so it shouldn't be that difficult, right?

But a Danish article, why would he search for that?

I have no idea.

Tell me about the assistant coach. What do you have on him?

He assaulted another girl from the handball team,

and there are several complaints against him.

We're also looking into him

regarding a number of unsolved cases.

And the photographs of Lisbeth and Lulu?

You didn't mention in your article how you got them.

Where are you going with this?

I'm just trying to understand.

Understand what?

I'm trying to understand why you were involved in this case.

The photographs were placed in my father's mailbox,

in an envelope with my name on it,

but no sender.

Anonymous? Yeah.

And that doesn't bother you?

No, I'm... I'm a quite well-known journalist back in Denmark,

so I receive tips sometimes,

mostly from anonymous sources.

And this case has ties to my hometown, so...

No, I don't find it that strange

that I was the one who received the photographs.

What's the usual motivation for these tips?

Usually someone who wants attention drawn to a certain issue.

Could...the person who gave you the photographs

be the one who took the pictures of Lisbeth and Lulu?

The person that you're after?

I mean, it must have crossed your mind.

Yeah, of course.

And that doesn't scare you?

No, not really.

I mean, it could also be someone who knows the perpetrator

and wants to lead him to me.

Or someone who somehow obtained the photographs and wants to highlight

that the police investigation was insufficient.

Could the one who tipped you off

have tipped Hicks off too?

There is no indication

that Hicks has anything to do with Lisbeth and Lulu.

Right?

No, there's no suggestion that he's involved except for one thing...

..that he reached out to you.

I'm just trying to grasp the connection.

Maybe there is no connection.

Maybe it's just coincidence and...

..madness.

Who knows what goes on in the mind of a man like Hicks?

Yes?

When?

OK.

What do you want to know?

You know what I'm after.

What happened to Lisbeth and Lulu?

How did you kill them?

And where did you dispose of their bodies?

I had them both in my cellar.

Um...

Lisbeth was easy to do away with.

She was weak.

Lisbeth was strangled.

And Lulu, she was strong.

She was unusual.

I didn't know what to do, so I...

..I left her...

..in the cellar for a while.

She was a fighter,

somebody who never gives up.

She irritated me.

I looked around the house for a hammer

or some sort of weapon, but I couldn't find anything...

..suitable.

And I remember I was halfway down into the cellar,

and then I saw this old hoover standing there.

So I took it with me...

..pulled open the cellar door.

She looked at me...

..puzzled.

I remember she smiled, hesitantly,

as if I might be coming down to hoover the cellar.

And I approached her...

..and I, er...

..struck her in the face

with the hoover.

At first, she went sort of halfway down onto her side.

It was heavy, one of those old-fashioned types,

probably before wartime.

And then I hit her again.

And again.

Her face was...

..destroyed.

She could barely breathe.

And then I just kicked her and...

..smashed her in the head...

..until I was sure she was dead.

What did you do with their bodies?

You know, all of this is worthless...

..unless you can give me some evidence.

Yeah.

Yeah, I understand.

Hmm.

You still can't tell me where they were buried.

CHAINS RATTLE

SHE CRIES OUT

What happened?

This is where they were buried.

Lisbeth and Lulu.

In the sewers by the girls' changing room.

Hazelmead Park.

OK.

We'll check it out.

When?

As soon as we can, Nora.

We'll follow it up, OK?

It might take a few days. I need a technical team and resources.

It doesn't happen in the blink of an eye.

We just need to be patient.

HE WALKS AWAY

Coffee.

Thanks.

You couldn't wait.

Sorry.

You have an issue with basic trust.

The technical investigators are there now.

Happy?

Why on earth should I be happy?

You solved the case.

Huge effort, great work.

Great journalism.

Yep.

Great journalism.

I've been wrong about everything.

So no, I am...

I'm definitely not happy.

PHONE VIBRATES

Yeah?

Yeah, OK.

Let's go.

I've got something to show you. Come with me.

Could it be the girls?

Too early to tell.

We found what appears to be five bodies.

Well, it seems that this is the site of a mass grave.

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