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I've been a wine
professional now for, you know,
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roughly 15 years.
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I've seen thousands of
different grape varieties.
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I've tasted tens of thousands,
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if not hundreds of thousands
of different wines.
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As sommeliers, as wine people,
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we spend a lot of
time looking forward.
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You know, what's--
what's the new cool thing?
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But I think it's equally
as interesting to look back
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and start to understand,
really,
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where did these
things come from.
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[soft dramatic music]
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-Tomorrow morning
I fly to Tehran
-Mm-hm.
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and spend the day in Tehran
seeing the wine merchant.
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Checking out the grapes.
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[Dustin]
The ancient world of wine
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really centers around modern
day Iran, Armenia, Georgia,
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Caucus Mountains, these places.
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Iran is one of the countries
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considered the birthplace
of the wine, you know.
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They belong to a different club.
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[Dustin] This area
of the world, for wine,
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is really starting to wake up.
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It's an ancient place that's
been sleeping for a long time.
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Is there any concern
with the truckers
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getting the grapes
across the border?
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Yeah, the problem is
they're not eating grapes.
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I mean, as far
Iran is concerned,
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all grapes are eating grapes.
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[soft dramatic music]
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[Dustin] This is just like one
of the wildest things
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I think that could
ever happen in wine.
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You okay?
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Um [chuckles] well, it's not--
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I'll call you from jail.
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-[both laughing]
-Okay?
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-Please don't.
-[both laughing]
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If you have to call me
from jail, just don't call.
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[Vahe] Okay, I understand.
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The government
has an alcohol ban.
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It's extremely illegal and what
we're doing is very public.
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I mean, a little danger
is fine, I don't mind.
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You know, do I want to go to
prison in Iran or elsewhere?
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Probably not. But anyway,
it'll be fine, yeah.
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-You're okay, you'll be okay.
-Yeah.
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[both laughing]
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-All right.
-Okay, yeah.
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I'll leave you, let me go.
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I have other things to do.
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-You keep the map.
-Yeah.
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And I'll call you on WhatsApp.
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-Okay.
-Okay, bye.
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Okay? Thanks.
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[soft dramatic orchestral music]
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It's the most dangerous
wine in the world.
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[soft dramatic orchestral
music continues]
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Nice, clear day.
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Look at Ararat, so majestic.
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Noah's Ark, on the mountain,
sat on the Mount Ararat.
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Then Noah came down,
planted vineyard,
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made wine and he got drunk.
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I dunno if you know the story.
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It's in the Bible.
There's no escaping it.
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Hey, Luca, it's me.
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Hi, not too much.
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Is it Hell's Canyon
or Devil's Canyon?
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Hell's Canyon.
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And does the road
go a little bit in
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so we don't hear the car,
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so if we want to shoot,
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is there a road that goes
into the Hell's Canyon?
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No, I'm not gonna
go through the canyon.
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I want to see the canyon,
but not be on the road.
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I want to, so we can
walk a little bit down,
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is that what you're saying?
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All right.
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Okay, all right.
Thanks, honey, okay.
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I'll call you back later, bye.
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The first time I
came here was '97.
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I was born in Syria,
but I grew up in Lebanon.
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But then I went to
Italy when I was 19,
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the first time, a
couple of years,
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fell in love with the country,
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then went to the States,
became serious,
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got my college degree,
then became un-serious,
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opened a restaurant.
You know, that kind of thing.
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I'm Armenian.
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Parents, Armenian,
Armenian school, church,
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everything else was Armenian.
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So we grew up as Armenians
in a host country.
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Lebanon was a host,
Syria was a host country.
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We went, we worked hard,
we did whatever we had to do,
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but we didn't mingle too much.
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When you are always
being pushed around,
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you figure out how to
hang in there, you know,
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how to survive.
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We're always in this
survival mode, you know?
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But the beauty of
being on your own land,
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your own soil, your own country,
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is that in the
context of vineyards,
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you can plant and you don't
have to worry about it
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because you don't worry
that you have to move again.
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We're not moving
anything from now.
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From here, we're
not going anywhere.
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I'm not going anywhere.
My family will be here.
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So the vineyards that
we plant will be here
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for a very long time.
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Yeah, so, sorry,
I didn't know what animal
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was coming behind me.
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What's up, bro? You wanna
be in the video, huh?
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[laughs]
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Cute, huh?
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Oh, Aimee would kill for it.
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You know, Aimee has a horse.
She rides a horse, yeah.
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[Aimee] I never call him Dad.
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I never call Vahe Dad.
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Vahe is always Vahe to me.
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We work together. It's Vahe.
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He's a dreamer, romantic type,
but he sees the big picture.
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So I have twins,
Luca and Aimee.
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The first project
that I did in Armenia...
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the first six barrels I made,
I made with Luca, my son.
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You know, he likes it,
he loves drinking it,
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he loves everything about it,
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but he's not into the
wine business per se.
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But somehow she got
attracted to the wine,
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the concept, the vineyards,
the making of the wine,
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the consuming of the
wine, the whole scene.
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I'm Armenian,
I'm half Armenian.
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My father's Armenian.
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My mother is very
New England American.
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I never really felt Armenian
until I came to Armenia
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and started working in wine.
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I graduated college.
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A couple of weeks
before I graduated,
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my father sent me
an email and said,
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"Aimee, would you like
to come work in wine?"
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It took me about five minutes
to answer, and I answered yes.
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And then I came to Armenia
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and that was my first
harvest that fall.
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[Vahe] She really loves it.
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And she started from day one
also to have her own brand.
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[Aimee] This is
about 100 years old.
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[Vahe] It's her own wine.
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She does all the
marketing, the branding,
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the positioning, rather
than work for the father.
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Except for our
sparkling wine project
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that carries our family name
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and that will be
a family brand.
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For me, I think it is, in some
ways, it's a legacy thing.
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So now you have
two generations of
Armenians making wine,
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which is pretty amazing
considering how young
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modern wine making
is in Armenia,
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to have a father and daughter
making wine together.
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Of course, Armenians
have been making wine
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for thousands of years,
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but it's been interrupted
for the past 100.
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Vines are not like tomatoes.
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Vines are two or three
generation crops.
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A vine will live until
it's 70, 100 years old.
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And vines have to struggle
to survive. So do people.
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[soft dramatic vocalizing]
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[Aimee] Armenia is situated
in the Caucasus Mountains.
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We're surrounded by Azerbaijan,
Georgia, Turkey, Iran.
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We are situated
in the highlands,
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so everything is high elevation.
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We sit in this mountaintop.
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[Armen Sarkissian]
It's a nation that
has this advantage today
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of being a global nation.
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I mean, Armenians
were always tradesman,
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because we lived
on the crossroads
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of different civilizations.
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As being a crossroads
of civilization,
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it has a very old culture.
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That culture is
about architecture...
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because Armenia was
one of the first
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to adopt
Christian architecture.
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It was the first state
kingdom that became Christian
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in the year 301.
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[soft dramatic
vocalizing continues]
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[Aimee] Armenians,
we have a sense of territory,
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of place, of culture, of food,
of morality, of family.
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Armenia is our land
because we've survived here
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for thousands of years.
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[Boris] In general, our
existence is a miracle for me.
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As a historian,
it's very difficult to explain
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how we survived, you know.
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It's really miracle by itself.
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[Aimee] The darkest
moment for Armenians
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came in the form of genocide.
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Preceding World War I,
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the Ottoman Empire
attempted to erase
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a large population of Armenians
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and other Christian minorities
living in their territories.
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[Armen Khachaturian]
We lost 1.5 million Armenians.
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Fifty percent
of the Armenian people.
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My grandfather was a survivor.
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He lost his entire family
of 17.
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[Vahe] We were Christians
in a Muslim country.
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There was a war going on.
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They thought it was a good
time to clean up the mess.
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[Jonathan] While many
civilizations have disappeared
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way before classical
Greece collapsed,
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the Roman Empire collapsed,
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the Ottoman Empire collapsed.
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If you're from a
mountain civilization,
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the land is everything
because it's rare.
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You need to hold onto
as much as possible.
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[soft dramatic
vocalizing continues]
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[Armen Khachaturian]
Being Armenian is,
there's a sense of pride.
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Growing up, there were
so few of us in the world
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and we've been
around for so long,
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there's a sense of
pride for that survival.
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[Vahe] Genocide is part of
our family, who we are.
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Most of our songs
tend to be sad...
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because we are always
reminded, yeah,
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that there's always
bad in this world.
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But at some point
we will move forward.
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[Aimee] I'm of the generation
in Armenia currently
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that was born
in the early '90s,
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so when the country was
just becoming a country,
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and it was the dissolution
of the Soviet Union.
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So we're very much
a part of defining
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what our country's
new identity is.
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And now we've adopted
wine as our identity.
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[soft piano music]
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So it's really beautiful
to be a part of.
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[Armen Khachaturian]
Wine has always been, to me,
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it's always been this
international language.
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You can put a bottle of wine
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and people of different cultures
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and different nationalities
and ages, it doesn't matter.
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It brings everyone together.
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When I met Vahe, he had a map.
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He had all the different grapes
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that were growing in all
the different regions.
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[Vahe] It's not a political
map as much as wine map
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of how viticulture started.
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[Armen Khachaturian]
And he said
that a lot of these,
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they didn't even know existed.
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[Vahe] Over the
last 8,000 years,
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farmers have been selecting,
selecting, selecting.
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It's the kid in a
candy store, literally.
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[Armen Khachaturian]
What this man is doing
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to revive the historical
significance of grape growing.
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Fascinating.
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It's a labor of love.
It's a passion project.
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He doesn't do this
because someone's
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paying him a lot of money.
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He's doing this because it's
his mark as an Armenian.
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In this region, the red
varietal that is the most famous
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and I think has the most
potential is Areni Noir.
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Areni itself is not
a thick-skinned grape,
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so it doesn't have a lot of
color, a lot of extension,
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not unlike a Pinot Noir.
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Yeah.
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Areni also has a black
pepper character,
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has a little bit of pepperiness.
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And the important thing
for Areni in general
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is that it needs to be ripe.
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Unripe Areni is really hard.
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It's not-- it's not ripe,
it doesn't express itself.
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But once it's ripe, it really
expresses itself nicely.
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Absolutely gorgeous.
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It is possible that Areni
is a very ancient grape.
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And I always like to say
that wine was not invented,
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it was discovered.
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[soft dramatic music]
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[Dustin] So there's this
cave in modern day Armenia
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that was recently discovered,
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and in it,
a place to make wine.
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Kind of a ancient
winery, if you will.
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[soft dramatic music continues]
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[Boris] So we are going
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to the inner part
of the first gallery...
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where the main ritual
events took place
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thousands of years ago.
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The grape is a very
mysterious plant.
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It related with
the cult of the sun
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and people who lived here
were worshiping the sun.
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So you can see these
clay structures,
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and in the context of
these clay structures,
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you can see what is believed
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to be the earliest
wine making unit.
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So the wine was pressed
on this platform,
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and with the help of gravity,
it flowed down into the tank.
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We dated it and it's 4,000 BC.
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So there are not
wine making units
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known in the world like this,
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so this is the
oldest at the moment.
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The clay structures
contains animal remains
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and as well parts of human body.
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[soft dramatic music continues]
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Those structures were
not burials themselves,
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but ritual basins,
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which was reflecting
a very complicated ritual
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related with dying
and reviving God.
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It was deeply believed
that wine
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was connecting this world
with the next world,
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because people believed
that everyone drinks wine,
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people alive, people
dead and gods.
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So wine was kind of a beverage
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who was opening gates
to the next world.
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[Vahe] There was
a culture here.
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And to put it in perspective,
they were, I think,
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discovering the wheel.
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Can you imagine, like,
it's the same period.
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There was sophistication
that they were making wine
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while they were tinkering
about how to make the wheel,
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or they had made the wheel.
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This was the time that
humans were changing,
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transforming from
hunters and collectors
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into those who could
produce agricultural goods.
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[Vahe] And these people
who were agricultural people,
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they see each year, nature
is dying and reviving,
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and these rituals were
related with this,
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death and revival.
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Those who stayed here
became also Armenians.
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[Armen Khachaturian]
During the time when you had
Christianity, they made wine.
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When Armenia was not
ruled by Christians,
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they stopped making wine.
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There were times they'd
go 300, 400 years
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without making any wine,
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and then they'd have
to start up again.
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And they've done
that over and over.
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The residues that are found
in the amphora in that cave
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have been carbon dated
and analyzed genetically
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and those residues carry
the same grape variety
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that exists today,
over 6,000 years old.
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[Carole]
It is a strange irony that
Armenia is starting over
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with very ancient
plant material.
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And I'm not sure that's
ironic as it is a connection.
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[Dustin]
Think about the level of pride
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and excitement that
you or you as a country
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or certainly as a
region might experience
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if you've been kind of sitting
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on that winning lottery
ticket for thousands of years
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and just not being
able to cash it in.
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And now, all of a sudden,
someone had the balls
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to go cash it in.
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[Armen Khachaturian]
Armenia was
an independent country
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for three years
after World War I,
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then it became part of USSR.
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[Vahe] It disrupted the whole
trajectory of viticulture,
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or wine making,
here, if you will.
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It got interrupted
for 70 or 80 years.
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[soft upbeat music]
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[machines whirring]
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[Vahe]
We are in Getap Winery.
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It's an old-school winery.
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Very classic Soviet.
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[Armen Khachaturian]
It wasn't modern
wine making at all, whatsoever.
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They would process
the fruit fairly rough.
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The machines were, you know,
pretty industrial machines.
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This is as Soviet
as it will get.
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You like it?
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During the Soviet times,
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each country had to
produce something.
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Georgia made wine,
Bulgaria made wine.
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Armenia was told to
make fortified wine.
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The Soviet Union decided
you guys stop doing wine,
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you do brandy.
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[Vahe]
So Armenia became the cognac
country for the Soviet Union.
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When the Soviet Union
was making brandy
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and planting vineyards
for large scale production,
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they wanted flat land.
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All the vineyards that were
planted pre-Soviet times
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were left untouched.
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It just so happens
that 120 years ago
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we had Armenians
that planted Areni.
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So that's why we
have these vineyards
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that essentially have been
untouched for 120 years.
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[Vahe] So it kind of
slipped through the cracks,
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kind of thing, you know.
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[Armen Khachaturian]
Areni Noir, it's
such a complex varietal.
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I think it can rival some
of the best in-- in the world.
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[Paul]
Areni has the possibility
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of bringing a lot of
international recognition
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to a country that has a
great and rich history.
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[Dustin]
As wine has become more
and more popular globally,
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making high quality wine has
almost become sort of a seal
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of your cultural significance.
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[Paul] I think Areni as a wine
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could do kind of what
Malbec did for Argentina.
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When I think about
Argentina, for instance,
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the first thing comes to mind
is great steak and great wine.
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[upbeat music]
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Malbec was a sleeper
as a variety.
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So all we did was to say, "Well,
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what if we could grow
this grape, you know,
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just make a high
quality vineyard?
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How would it perform?"
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And so that's what we tried.
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And when we did that,
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we were like shocked how
good the wine was.
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[man]
Paul Hobbs turned out to be
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one of the most influential
winemakers in the world.
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He was vital in shaping
the wine culture
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that we see in Argentina today.
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[Paul]
Malbec solidified Argentina
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as a world-class
producing region.
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Having a variety that
you're known for,
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you're the world leader,
I think is a huge asset.
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When Malbec took hold,
it infected everything.
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Tourism, restaurants,
hotels bloomed,
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or even exploded in the region.
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00:23:49,386 --> 00:23:51,471
That's one of the
reasons I love working
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in these kind of places,
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because there's
always the possibility
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of helping either resurrect
or create something afresh.
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In the case of Armenia, yeah,
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I think Areni as a wine
could have enormous power.
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[Aimee] Paul Hobbs has a
bit of a reputation in wine
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as a prospector and
recently he was one
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of the first outsiders
to go to Armenia
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to make wine with
the Areni grape.
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[Paul]
This is a 2016 version.
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This grape clearly stood
out in terms of quality.
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Beautiful color, this freshness.
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And then it finishes, right,
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and you can feel the nice grip
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and you get the feeling of
the mineral, chalky soils
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-from the sites that
these are grown.
-Mm-Hm.
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With all this dynamic
activity going on in Armenia,
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do you feel any
kind of pressure?
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Because it's really gonna
fall on the shoulders
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of people like you that
are gonna carry this thing
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and make it to be
whatever it's going to be.
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[soft dramatic music]
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[Armen Sarkissian]
This is a nation that
lived on the crossroad,
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always surrounded
by different nations.
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Not always friends.
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Sometimes very hostile.
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But that created a new
DNA in these people,
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which is a DNA of a survivor.
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[dramatic orchestral music]
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[Aimee] When the
Soviet Union dissolved,
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when USSR dissolved...
borders were drawn.
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Repeating once
again, our top story,
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Soviet President
Mikhail Gorbachev
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has been removed from power
and there are tanks now
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in the streets of Moscow.
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He has declared a
state of emergency
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in individual localities.
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It is not clear what that means.
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[Aimee] There were
Armenians and Azeris
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living in different areas.
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The borders were
redefined for Armenia
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to be an independent
country and Azerbaijan,
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and that's when the
conflict started.
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[fire crackling]
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[Vahe] So it's really kind
of a country, you know, at war.
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It's always a state of war.
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There's always soldiers
coming, soldiers going.
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We might even see a column
of tanks going, you know,
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00:26:30,964 --> 00:26:32,382
it's very common.
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Because this is the road
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that goes to Artsakh,
or Nagorno Karabakh.
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So stuff is always
moving from here, there.
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It's the main road.
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00:26:45,478 --> 00:26:50,400
See these things
are all to protect
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from sniper fire.
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When Vahe came and wanted
to make sparkling in Armenia,
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he had always dreamt
of making bubbles.
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And he came to Armenia
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and he went to different
vineyard sites and said,
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"Where is the best place
to make sparkling?"
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And they happened upon Khachik.
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[soft dramatic music]
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[Vahe]
Khachik is a village
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at around 1,800 meters
above sea level.
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So that represents
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the highest elevation
vineyards in Armenia.
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[soft dramatic music continues]
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Every year, I buy all the
grapes of the village.
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Always. The only
people that buy are us.
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00:27:51,795 --> 00:27:54,589
Whether it be 50 tons,
80 tons, 100 tons.
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00:27:54,714 --> 00:27:57,759
I have promised them and
every year I buy it from them.
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We'll drive now past
the military base,
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and then we get
to our vineyards.
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And our vineyards are 500
meters from the Azeri border.
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[Vahe] And I want to
build my winery there.
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00:28:16,236 --> 00:28:20,407
So when I got an architect,
a structural engineer,
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00:28:20,573 --> 00:28:26,329
I asked to build that could
withstand, you know, mortars.
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00:28:28,456 --> 00:28:29,916
Yeah, yeah.
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00:28:30,041 --> 00:28:33,378
Vahe, my father wants to build
a bombproof-- bombproof cellar.
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[Vahe] So that my cellar
wouldn't be, you know,
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short of a bunker buster,
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whatever those big
bombs are, you know.
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Every time he says that,
I'm like, "Will we need it?"
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[Vahe] And it was gonna be
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four to five times
more expensive
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because of the amount of
concrete we had to pour.
494
00:28:51,062 --> 00:28:53,815
I mean, it's a little surreal.
495
00:28:54,691 --> 00:28:56,901
But if we're gonna
age our Keush up here,
496
00:28:57,026 --> 00:28:58,445
1,500 meters from the border
497
00:28:58,611 --> 00:29:00,905
and any war breaks out,
then yeah.
498
00:29:03,616 --> 00:29:06,995
I'm a little concerned,
but I'm not gonna run away.
499
00:29:08,288 --> 00:29:11,040
These are our vineyards,
this is our land,
500
00:29:11,958 --> 00:29:13,960
so we're gonna make
wine no matter what.
501
00:29:16,838 --> 00:29:19,758
[Jonathan] The first war,
which started in 1988,
502
00:29:19,883 --> 00:29:23,720
the peace accord was
signed more or less in '94.
503
00:29:24,304 --> 00:29:28,475
That brutal conflict was won
by the Armenians. Hands down.
504
00:29:28,641 --> 00:29:32,520
They really-- the Azeri
army got a serious beating
505
00:29:32,645 --> 00:29:33,980
and took heavy losses.
506
00:29:34,564 --> 00:29:38,485
For the Azeris, it's a
question of revenge as well.
507
00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:40,945
They claim that it's
their territory.
508
00:29:41,780 --> 00:29:45,325
Now, if a country claims
that this is their territory,
509
00:29:45,492 --> 00:29:47,535
then we can go back in
time indefinitely and say,
510
00:29:47,660 --> 00:29:50,246
"Well, actually, Armenians were
there way before you were."
511
00:29:50,371 --> 00:29:54,959
The Turks didn't come before
the early 11th century.
512
00:29:55,084 --> 00:29:58,004
The Armenians had been there
many hundreds of years before,
513
00:29:58,171 --> 00:30:00,215
so if you go into
that logic, then, well,
514
00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:02,926
Armenians, that's their land.
It's not Turkish land.
515
00:30:03,051 --> 00:30:06,429
Of course, the reality on the
ground is quite different.
516
00:30:08,097 --> 00:30:15,271
[bombs exploding]
517
00:30:18,983 --> 00:30:22,070
[Aimee] Women and children
were evacuated a week ago
518
00:30:23,154 --> 00:30:26,699
and most of the farmers have
reported to the front lines
519
00:30:26,825 --> 00:30:28,451
to defend the village.
520
00:30:29,202 --> 00:30:31,579
We're preparing for air raids.
521
00:30:33,289 --> 00:30:40,296
[soft dramatic music]
522
00:30:40,755 --> 00:30:42,841
[Jonathan]
This war is very dangerous.
523
00:30:43,466 --> 00:30:45,009
Not only just at the front line
524
00:30:45,134 --> 00:30:46,636
when you are there
with the troops.
525
00:30:46,761 --> 00:30:48,596
I mean, yeah, you're
getting shelled constantly
526
00:30:48,721 --> 00:30:51,432
and you don't know if the
next bomb is for you or not.
527
00:30:51,558 --> 00:30:53,726
But it was very
dangerous on the roads.
528
00:30:53,893 --> 00:30:55,603
We knew there are
drones everywhere.
529
00:30:55,728 --> 00:30:58,815
It's like having a giant
sniper up in the air.
530
00:30:59,232 --> 00:31:01,568
The difference that
the sniper gets tired,
531
00:31:01,693 --> 00:31:02,986
these drones don't.
532
00:31:03,111 --> 00:31:04,863
They could keep circling
for 24 hours, replace.
533
00:31:04,988 --> 00:31:06,698
I mean, it's nonstop.
534
00:31:09,659 --> 00:31:12,453
A lot of people that
I met who stayed,
535
00:31:13,246 --> 00:31:15,748
they stayed because
it was their home,
536
00:31:15,957 --> 00:31:20,628
either the house or the land,
or because they had cattle.
537
00:31:21,546 --> 00:31:25,550
Also, the grapes, you know, the
people who were making wine.
538
00:31:27,427 --> 00:31:34,309
[soft dramatic music continues]
539
00:31:34,934 --> 00:31:38,897
The vineyards sit
right between the
Armenian military base
540
00:31:39,022 --> 00:31:41,232
and the Azeri military base.
541
00:31:43,109 --> 00:31:45,737
[Vahe]
It is around a half a mile,
542
00:31:45,862 --> 00:31:50,992
maybe a mile maximum from
their post to our border.
543
00:31:51,117 --> 00:31:57,457
So it is in a direct line
of fire, the vineyards.
544
00:32:00,710 --> 00:32:03,504
For the most part, we've
never had a problem.
545
00:32:03,630 --> 00:32:07,467
There was not much happening
in the last 30 or some years,
546
00:32:07,634 --> 00:32:11,387
but because now it's
a full-blown war...
547
00:32:14,599 --> 00:32:17,727
people are hesitating
whether they should harvest.
548
00:32:20,313 --> 00:32:23,191
[Armen Khachaturian]
The harvest date
is the most important date
549
00:32:23,316 --> 00:32:26,319
in the entire process
of making wine.
550
00:32:26,486 --> 00:32:29,322
Winemakers have to wait
until the perfect moment
551
00:32:29,447 --> 00:32:31,157
to pick the fruit.
552
00:32:31,282 --> 00:32:34,661
And if you miss the window,
you can't make wine that year.
553
00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:38,122
It is exact time
to do the harvest,
554
00:32:38,247 --> 00:32:40,249
probably either today, tomorrow,
555
00:32:40,375 --> 00:32:43,586
the next three,
four days is the window
556
00:32:43,711 --> 00:32:46,547
before the sugars
go up too much.
557
00:32:47,882 --> 00:32:51,177
It is potentially
30,000 bottles
558
00:32:51,344 --> 00:32:54,514
of blanc de noirs
from that village.
559
00:32:55,098 --> 00:32:56,224
It's not about money, I think,
560
00:32:56,349 --> 00:32:58,768
it's about the
work that they did
561
00:32:58,893 --> 00:33:02,480
that they can't harvest and
it has to stay on the vine.
562
00:33:04,023 --> 00:33:05,984
[Aimee] It's their year
that they've spent, you know,
563
00:33:06,109 --> 00:33:09,821
growing these grapes and they
wanna see it go into fruition.
564
00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:14,575
[Vahe]
It's kind of a dilemma.
565
00:33:15,368 --> 00:33:17,829
Do we risk going to the fields
566
00:33:17,954 --> 00:33:21,207
and perhaps aggravate
the situation
567
00:33:21,332 --> 00:33:23,042
by them fighting on them,
568
00:33:23,209 --> 00:33:27,797
or we let go of the fruit and
let it stand in the vineyard?
569
00:33:30,341 --> 00:33:31,843
First of all,
the road to Khachik
570
00:33:31,968 --> 00:33:35,388
at the moment is closed for
military personnel only.
571
00:33:38,933 --> 00:33:43,521
So if they were to allow us
to go and harvest the grapes,
572
00:33:43,646 --> 00:33:46,733
that would be a very
strategic military decision
573
00:33:46,899 --> 00:33:48,026
at the moment.
574
00:33:48,776 --> 00:33:50,278
We can't go at
night with lights.
575
00:33:50,403 --> 00:33:51,487
You know, they have snipers,
576
00:33:51,612 --> 00:33:53,072
they have certain technologies
577
00:33:53,197 --> 00:33:54,949
that can see you when
you harvest the grapes.
578
00:33:55,074 --> 00:33:57,535
So we're talking about a
completely different ballgame.
579
00:33:58,453 --> 00:34:03,249
This is a war of our right to
live peacefully in our land.
580
00:34:03,374 --> 00:34:05,043
[soldiers shouting]
581
00:34:05,168 --> 00:34:08,921
And the vineyards actually
are a pretty big part of that.
582
00:34:09,088 --> 00:34:10,840
It's not a new thing
that the vineyards
583
00:34:10,965 --> 00:34:13,593
have acted like borders
where farmers stay
584
00:34:13,718 --> 00:34:15,636
and they defend their land.
585
00:34:16,971 --> 00:34:19,098
Look, we can pull it off.
586
00:34:19,891 --> 00:34:21,893
[Aimee] It's gonna be
a day-to-day decision.
587
00:34:23,061 --> 00:34:28,357
[dramatic orchestral music]
588
00:34:28,483 --> 00:34:30,443
No, I'm calm. Yeah.
589
00:34:30,568 --> 00:34:33,279
Yeah, and it's not a fake calm,
it's a real calm.
590
00:34:35,656 --> 00:34:38,701
Vahe, Vahe is, [laughs]
591
00:34:38,826 --> 00:34:41,579
you would think I understand
how he's thinking.
592
00:34:42,789 --> 00:34:46,834
He does well when there's
something that needs to happen.
593
00:34:48,127 --> 00:34:50,922
He has war experience,
so it's a little different.
594
00:34:51,047 --> 00:34:53,800
He can see this from
a different perspective.
595
00:34:58,054 --> 00:35:00,181
He's very much a leader and
a lot of people around us
596
00:35:00,306 --> 00:35:02,558
are looking at him
to be a leader.
597
00:35:04,143 --> 00:35:06,854
Actually, I do better
in times of difficulty
598
00:35:06,979 --> 00:35:08,439
than in times of peace.
599
00:35:08,564 --> 00:35:12,735
For some reason, I'm better
suited to take charge
600
00:35:12,860 --> 00:35:15,863
when things are out
of your control.
601
00:35:15,988 --> 00:35:17,740
I think it's best.
Yeah, let's-- okay.
602
00:35:17,865 --> 00:35:21,494
[Vahe speaking Armenian]
603
00:35:21,661 --> 00:35:22,995
Okay.
604
00:35:48,229 --> 00:35:51,858
[Aimee]
Usually we see a lot
more trucks with grapes.
605
00:35:52,024 --> 00:35:53,192
It's mid-harvest season,
606
00:35:53,359 --> 00:35:55,862
but it looks really
calm right now.
607
00:36:01,617 --> 00:36:04,662
[Vahe] It's becoming more and
more real, by the way.
608
00:36:04,787 --> 00:36:07,540
It's coming, you know, closer.
609
00:36:08,499 --> 00:36:11,752
And now we know we're
hearing about people
610
00:36:11,878 --> 00:36:16,340
that we know got hurt,
injured or died, you know?
611
00:36:26,225 --> 00:36:29,103
[soft dramatic music]
612
00:36:29,228 --> 00:36:31,355
So freaking quiet.
613
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,607
Yeah?
614
00:36:32,732 --> 00:36:34,233
[Aimee] Yeah, it's
almost too quiet.
615
00:36:34,358 --> 00:36:36,903
[Vahe] Yeah, exactly. The
famous calm before the storm.
616
00:36:37,028 --> 00:36:39,739
Hopefully the storm
never comes here.
617
00:36:40,865 --> 00:36:44,035
[soft dramatic music continues]
618
00:36:54,337 --> 00:36:55,880
[Aimee] Here we go.
619
00:36:57,215 --> 00:37:03,554
[soft dramatic music continues]
620
00:37:11,395 --> 00:37:12,813
Okay.
621
00:37:14,273 --> 00:37:15,900
[Vahe] You got it?
622
00:37:17,318 --> 00:37:24,492
[soft dramatic music continues]
623
00:37:29,956 --> 00:37:31,040
[Aimee] Okay.
624
00:37:32,416 --> 00:37:39,590
[soft dramatic music continues]
625
00:37:41,884 --> 00:37:43,678
The plan is each
farmer and their plot
626
00:37:43,803 --> 00:37:45,346
will have three,
four people harvesting.
627
00:37:45,471 --> 00:37:47,932
Yeah, basically, rather than
the whole village harvest--
628
00:37:48,057 --> 00:37:50,142
They do plot by
plot slowly, slowly.
629
00:37:50,268 --> 00:37:52,645
So that there's no big
concentration, you know?
630
00:37:52,812 --> 00:37:54,063
Yeah.
631
00:37:58,818 --> 00:38:01,237
[Vahe] Do you know they used to
plant, in the Roman Empire,
632
00:38:01,362 --> 00:38:04,991
they used to plant vineyards
on the borders of the empire
633
00:38:05,157 --> 00:38:08,703
because they figured any
community that has vineyards,
634
00:38:08,828 --> 00:38:12,039
they will never run away because
they've invested so much.
635
00:38:12,164 --> 00:38:16,377
This is what?
120, 130, 140 years.
636
00:38:16,502 --> 00:38:21,382
It's been--
to let go of this without
putting up a fight,
637
00:38:21,799 --> 00:38:24,010
it's almost impossible.
638
00:38:27,388 --> 00:38:28,514
Yeah, that's the white line.
639
00:38:28,681 --> 00:38:29,890
You see the white
line? That's the--
640
00:38:30,016 --> 00:38:31,434
-The road looking thing.
-[Vahe] Yeah.
641
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:33,185
And that's their post.
642
00:38:35,479 --> 00:38:39,066
Our fields go 300 meters
from their post.
643
00:38:39,191 --> 00:38:42,028
I mean, people farm,
they're gutsy, man.
644
00:38:43,029 --> 00:38:44,905
They've seen war,
they've seen so much
645
00:38:45,031 --> 00:38:49,744
that then farming
there is, you know,
646
00:38:49,869 --> 00:38:51,996
it's a normal
day-to-day thing, honey.
647
00:38:52,121 --> 00:38:53,497
-They're used to it.
-They don't care.
648
00:38:53,622 --> 00:38:54,957
Yeah.
649
00:38:55,082 --> 00:38:57,418
Do you know another
beauty is that you see,
650
00:38:57,543 --> 00:39:00,004
we stand right, Ararat, you see?
651
00:39:03,215 --> 00:39:05,468
That mountain is a symbol.
652
00:39:05,593 --> 00:39:08,679
Symbol of who we
are, what we've done,
653
00:39:08,804 --> 00:39:12,308
from Noah to this day.
654
00:39:12,433 --> 00:39:14,602
Yeah, of course,
let's leave religion
655
00:39:14,727 --> 00:39:16,270
on the side for a
minute, but, you know,
656
00:39:16,395 --> 00:39:21,525
had it been Noah and whatnot,
it's a remarkable story
657
00:39:22,193 --> 00:39:24,987
you'll tell to
your kids one day.
658
00:39:25,112 --> 00:39:26,906
I'm telling you now.
659
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:34,872
[soft dramatic music continues]
660
00:39:45,508 --> 00:39:49,095
It will be a historic
moment for the village,
661
00:39:49,220 --> 00:39:52,098
for the country in
saying in spite of it,
662
00:39:52,264 --> 00:39:53,391
we did it, you know?
663
00:39:53,933 --> 00:39:56,936
Even if it's 7,000 bottles,
who cares, you know?
664
00:39:58,521 --> 00:40:01,107
It's what that 7,000 represent.
665
00:40:02,608 --> 00:40:08,989
[dramatic triumphant
orchestral music]
666
00:40:23,879 --> 00:40:31,053
[soft dramatic vocalizing]
667
00:40:33,681 --> 00:40:40,855
[singers singing
in foreign language]
668
00:41:08,883 --> 00:41:10,468
[Jonathan]
After a couple of weeks,
669
00:41:10,593 --> 00:41:13,387
they knew the war was going
really badly for them.
670
00:41:14,180 --> 00:41:16,223
Maybe they wouldn't
express it publicly,
671
00:41:16,348 --> 00:41:19,185
but inside, they
knew they had lost.
672
00:41:21,187 --> 00:41:23,814
There's no question about it.
673
00:41:25,316 --> 00:41:27,735
They lost quite a bit
of territory, too.
674
00:41:30,154 --> 00:41:37,328
[singers singing
in foreign language]
675
00:41:47,213 --> 00:41:51,884
[Vahe] We truly thought
we would win this one.
676
00:41:52,051 --> 00:41:54,762
And then slowly we
came to the belief
677
00:41:54,887 --> 00:41:57,223
that we were going
to lose this one.
678
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,059
And we did lose it, honestly.
679
00:42:02,895 --> 00:42:04,355
[Aimee]
We lost three major wineries,
680
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,565
several large-scale
vineyard projects,
681
00:42:06,732 --> 00:42:08,609
and the majority
of the oak forest
682
00:42:08,734 --> 00:42:10,653
that are used to
make our barrels.
683
00:42:11,111 --> 00:42:13,739
[Vahe] It's kind
of a rough one,
684
00:42:13,906 --> 00:42:15,950
seeing all that lost, you know?
685
00:42:17,493 --> 00:42:20,913
We'll pick up the pieces
and we'll move forward.
686
00:42:25,709 --> 00:42:30,756
The people who stick it
out through thick and thin
687
00:42:30,923 --> 00:42:33,592
respect the vine,
respect the struggle
688
00:42:33,759 --> 00:42:35,135
the vine has to go through,
689
00:42:35,261 --> 00:42:38,722
respect the age to
which the vines live
690
00:42:38,847 --> 00:42:42,685
and respect the
produce of the vine,
691
00:42:42,810 --> 00:42:44,228
which is just
a bunch of grapes,
692
00:42:44,353 --> 00:42:46,730
which they, through
their intelligence,
693
00:42:46,855 --> 00:42:48,774
manage to turn into wine.
694
00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:53,946
Wine is a product which can
be sold across the world.
695
00:42:54,113 --> 00:42:57,491
That's a great advantage.
696
00:42:58,576 --> 00:43:02,913
[Dustin] If you are a country
that produces
very high quality wine
697
00:43:03,038 --> 00:43:05,291
and become globally
recognized for it,
698
00:43:05,457 --> 00:43:09,461
it can really help to
market you as a country,
699
00:43:09,587 --> 00:43:13,215
can show people that you should
be seen on the global stage
700
00:43:13,340 --> 00:43:15,593
alongside these other
places in the world
701
00:43:15,718 --> 00:43:18,596
that make high quality wine.
702
00:43:19,513 --> 00:43:21,473
[Aimee] I'm gonna take the
Areni to Napa Valley
703
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:24,393
and see what the
world thinks of it.
704
00:43:24,518 --> 00:43:27,313
[plane engine whooshing]
705
00:43:29,189 --> 00:43:31,692
Getting the message
out is the toughest part.
706
00:43:32,818 --> 00:43:34,987
There's a story
that has to be told.
707
00:43:35,487 --> 00:43:37,156
[Aimee] Not many people
have heard of Areni
708
00:43:37,281 --> 00:43:39,867
and not many people
have heard of Armenia.
709
00:43:40,367 --> 00:43:43,287
[Dustin] First of all,
the wine has to be good.
710
00:43:43,412 --> 00:43:46,332
You gotta get people
to try it, to taste it.
711
00:43:46,457 --> 00:43:49,168
But it's not a wine that
anybody's familiar with.
712
00:43:49,293 --> 00:43:50,919
[Carole]
This is a first for me.
713
00:43:51,045 --> 00:43:53,047
I don't think I've ever
had an Armenian wine.
714
00:43:53,172 --> 00:43:54,673
I've never had the
grape variety before,
715
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,675
so I don't really
know what to expect.
716
00:43:56,884 --> 00:44:00,012
[Aimee] Everyone's,
at first, a little hesitant.
717
00:44:00,846 --> 00:44:03,390
[DLynn] You've got words on
here that I can't pronounce.
718
00:44:03,515 --> 00:44:05,267
[Steve] How do you market
it outside of Armenia?
719
00:44:05,392 --> 00:44:08,020
If you're trying to sell
something that nobody can say,
720
00:44:08,145 --> 00:44:09,980
that's a bit of an obstacle.
721
00:44:10,105 --> 00:44:11,649
[Steve] Because you
know what you get in Napa,
722
00:44:11,774 --> 00:44:13,067
you know what you
get in Bordeaux,
723
00:44:13,192 --> 00:44:14,526
you know what you get
in Burgundy or La Morra.
724
00:44:14,693 --> 00:44:15,569
Yep.
725
00:44:15,694 --> 00:44:17,029
[Steve] With Caucasus oak,
726
00:44:17,154 --> 00:44:18,656
is it at faster
growing or slower growing?
727
00:44:18,781 --> 00:44:19,823
Caucasian, it's slow growth.
728
00:44:19,948 --> 00:44:21,158
It's very delicate grape.
729
00:44:21,283 --> 00:44:22,868
It's very thin-skinned,
tight clustered.
730
00:44:23,035 --> 00:44:24,411
[Dlynn] So what's
the viticulture like?
731
00:44:24,536 --> 00:44:26,455
How are you harvesting
these grapes? What, what--
732
00:44:26,580 --> 00:44:28,332
Yeah, yeah.
733
00:44:28,457 --> 00:44:30,793
Viticulture is, yeah.
734
00:44:30,918 --> 00:44:33,045
[Carole] Is there a
problem with winter cold?
735
00:44:33,170 --> 00:44:34,463
[Steve] Do you do any
special winterization,
736
00:44:34,588 --> 00:44:35,631
burying the trunks or
anything like that?
737
00:44:35,756 --> 00:44:37,007
We don't do any of that.
738
00:44:37,132 --> 00:44:39,051
Areni is grown in volcanic soil.
739
00:44:39,176 --> 00:44:40,844
It's all volcanic
soil, high elevation.
740
00:44:40,969 --> 00:44:43,681
The vineyards range
from 1,300 meters
741
00:44:43,806 --> 00:44:45,641
all the way up to 1,700 meters.
742
00:44:45,766 --> 00:44:46,934
Those vineyards are first
743
00:44:47,059 --> 00:44:48,519
or second highest
elevation vineyards
744
00:44:48,644 --> 00:44:50,229
in the Northern Hemisphere.
745
00:44:50,396 --> 00:44:54,024
Do the local skirmishes
affect when you can harvest?
746
00:44:54,733 --> 00:44:56,110
[Aimee] We don't have
certifications yet,
747
00:44:56,235 --> 00:44:57,486
we don't have appellations.
748
00:44:57,611 --> 00:44:58,862
We're at the very beginning.
749
00:44:58,987 --> 00:45:01,323
We're just starting
to export, really.
750
00:45:01,448 --> 00:45:03,200
No one was making
wine in Armenia
751
00:45:03,325 --> 00:45:05,160
and Armenia has only been
a country for around 20 years.
752
00:45:05,285 --> 00:45:06,912
Oh, now I'm gonna have
to go look at a map.
753
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:08,455
Yeah.
Figure this all out.
754
00:45:08,580 --> 00:45:10,290
-[Steve] Should we try it?
-So let's do it. Yeah.
755
00:45:10,416 --> 00:45:11,875
-Let's taste.
-[man] I think we shall.
756
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,335
Thanks so much.
757
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:25,097
It smells lovely.
758
00:45:30,894 --> 00:45:32,396
It's very exotic.
759
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,316
[Aimee] A lot of people try to
compare it or place it.
760
00:45:36,442 --> 00:45:39,737
Like, "Oh, Areni tastes
like Pinot Noir,"
761
00:45:39,862 --> 00:45:41,113
but it's not a Pinot Noir.
762
00:45:41,238 --> 00:45:44,158
It's a completely
different grape.
763
00:45:46,910 --> 00:45:54,084
[soft orchestral music]
764
00:46:04,344 --> 00:46:11,518
[soft orchestral
music continues]
765
00:46:19,401 --> 00:46:23,030
I don't think-- I-I don't think
that it should be compared
766
00:46:23,155 --> 00:46:25,282
to other grapes, personally.
767
00:46:25,866 --> 00:46:30,329
This wine is totally singular.
768
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:37,336
[soft orchestral
music continues]
769
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:44,384
Well, I really like it.
770
00:46:45,803 --> 00:46:48,555
[DLynn] I love the wine.
The wine is pleasurable.
771
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,892
It's got great acid,
it's got great tannin.
772
00:46:52,017 --> 00:46:54,645
This is a quality wine.
I really dig it.
773
00:46:54,770 --> 00:46:57,523
It has crazy balance.
774
00:46:59,691 --> 00:47:01,652
This one, you could call
this a noble variety,
775
00:47:01,777 --> 00:47:03,695
if you were to use that term.
776
00:47:05,364 --> 00:47:08,033
It has, it's the whole package.
777
00:47:09,660 --> 00:47:11,495
[Aimee] It should
be a noble grape.
778
00:47:11,620 --> 00:47:13,539
I mean, the grape is one of
the oldest grape varieties
779
00:47:13,664 --> 00:47:17,251
in the world and somehow it
still survives to this day.
780
00:47:19,419 --> 00:47:22,714
[Carole]
The story of an
ancient land, you know,
781
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,927
with such an ancient,
ancient wine culture.
782
00:47:27,052 --> 00:47:28,679
I think it's a winner.
783
00:47:30,472 --> 00:47:33,559
[Vahe] This would be
the closing of a circle.
784
00:47:34,852 --> 00:47:36,353
It's originated here
785
00:47:36,979 --> 00:47:39,731
and now it's coming
back with a vengeance.
786
00:47:40,899 --> 00:47:43,569
[Aimee] Wine can be used
as a form of diplomacy,
787
00:47:43,694 --> 00:47:48,240
can be used as a form of
peacemaking, of negotiations.
788
00:47:49,116 --> 00:47:51,243
Wine can be used
as many things.
789
00:47:52,786 --> 00:47:54,872
[Vahe] She can,
if not the world,
790
00:47:54,997 --> 00:47:58,500
she can change parts of
the world through wine
791
00:47:58,625 --> 00:48:01,211
and she can make it
a little bit better
792
00:48:01,712 --> 00:48:05,340
because she's...
she's my daughter.
793
00:48:06,925 --> 00:48:14,099
[soft music]
794
00:48:16,768 --> 00:48:22,357
[people chattering]
795
00:48:29,531 --> 00:48:31,408
[Aimee] It's the harvest
season in Armenia.
796
00:48:32,075 --> 00:48:33,869
We're harvesting grapes
from five different regions,
797
00:48:33,994 --> 00:48:37,122
so it's definitely hectic
here at the winery.
798
00:48:39,875 --> 00:48:43,086
[Vahe] I like the
excitement of the new.
799
00:48:44,379 --> 00:48:47,132
The thrill of the chase.
800
00:48:47,257 --> 00:48:48,842
I think it's my character.
801
00:48:48,967 --> 00:48:50,594
I'm not irresponsible,
802
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:57,434
but I like the high of doing
something new, you know,
803
00:48:57,559 --> 00:49:00,145
and maybe getting away with it.
804
00:49:00,812 --> 00:49:04,733
The idea came to me to
make first wine from Iran.
805
00:49:09,071 --> 00:49:15,202
The whole idea started because
we have the map behind me.
806
00:49:15,327 --> 00:49:17,704
Iran is a critical part of it.
807
00:49:18,830 --> 00:49:21,333
When you drink
wine, the majority,
808
00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:24,795
ninety-nine-point-something
percent of what you drink
809
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,048
is from a species of vine
called vitis vinifera.
810
00:49:28,173 --> 00:49:31,301
That is Pinot Noir, that is
Chardonnay, that is Gamay,
811
00:49:31,426 --> 00:49:33,220
that's Shiraz, that's
Cabernet Sauvignon,
812
00:49:33,345 --> 00:49:34,763
that's Cabernet Franc.
813
00:49:34,888 --> 00:49:37,557
It all comes back
to vitis vinifera.
814
00:49:37,683 --> 00:49:40,102
A lot of experts
believe that the origin
815
00:49:40,227 --> 00:49:43,313
of vitis vinifera
comes from Iran.
816
00:49:44,523 --> 00:49:46,858
[Vahe] Well, we have two
neighbors that are friendly.
817
00:49:46,984 --> 00:49:49,569
So one is Georgia,
which is fine.
818
00:49:49,695 --> 00:49:53,782
And then we have Iran, which
we get along very nicely,
819
00:49:53,907 --> 00:49:57,035
but no one else in the
world gets along, you know.
820
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:58,912
It's interesting that
the Armenians
821
00:49:59,037 --> 00:50:03,250
and the Persians get along
for a multitude of reasons.
822
00:50:03,375 --> 00:50:05,627
One of them is because
they are alike.
823
00:50:05,752 --> 00:50:07,963
They were enemies,
but they were also allies
824
00:50:08,088 --> 00:50:11,216
that went back and forth since
the fifth century, really.
825
00:50:11,341 --> 00:50:12,968
They have a common history.
826
00:50:13,135 --> 00:50:19,224
[soft piano music]
827
00:50:25,022 --> 00:50:28,108
[Moe] Maysara is
an ancient Persian word
828
00:50:28,233 --> 00:50:30,152
meaning house of wine.
829
00:50:30,277 --> 00:50:34,114
"May" means wine
and "Sara" is house.
830
00:50:34,906 --> 00:50:41,913
[soft piano music continues]
831
00:50:42,914 --> 00:50:47,794
Initially when we started
owning a vineyard and a winery,
832
00:50:48,378 --> 00:50:50,297
we made it very
clear to our kids
833
00:50:50,422 --> 00:50:54,259
that they should pursue
their own dreams,
834
00:50:54,926 --> 00:50:57,763
but I am so excited
and thrilled
835
00:50:57,929 --> 00:51:00,891
for it to become
a family business.
836
00:51:07,856 --> 00:51:10,442
I have to say, it
didn't seem as much
837
00:51:10,609 --> 00:51:13,403
whatever you girls
wanna do, go do.
838
00:51:13,528 --> 00:51:15,113
It was always expected,
839
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,616
but it could also be that we
put that pressure on ourselves,
840
00:51:17,783 --> 00:51:21,119
right, where we wanted
to kind of perform,
841
00:51:21,286 --> 00:51:22,829
seeing what they've done.
842
00:51:22,954 --> 00:51:24,790
I mean, they escaped from a
country with whatever they had
843
00:51:24,956 --> 00:51:27,876
and I think that it does hold
us to a different standard.
844
00:51:28,627 --> 00:51:30,837
I mean, I'm American,
I was born here,
845
00:51:31,546 --> 00:51:32,631
but I'm so proud of my roots.
846
00:51:32,798 --> 00:51:35,801
I'm so proud that I'm Iranian.
847
00:51:37,636 --> 00:51:40,055
Of course, we
get people asking,
848
00:51:40,180 --> 00:51:42,474
well, in your country you
don't have wine culture
849
00:51:42,641 --> 00:51:45,936
or you're Muslim, how
come you have a winery?
850
00:51:46,061 --> 00:51:48,355
[Naseem] I think people often,
when they think Persia
851
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,065
or they think Iran,
852
00:51:50,190 --> 00:51:53,026
they think of the regime
that's going on with religion
853
00:51:53,151 --> 00:51:55,862
and then they pull
away being like,
well, they can't drink wine.
854
00:51:55,987 --> 00:51:58,573
And it's just like,
let's go back to history
855
00:51:58,698 --> 00:51:59,991
and see where it all started.
856
00:52:00,158 --> 00:52:01,701
It came from our home country.
857
00:52:02,369 --> 00:52:04,037
[Moe] In the western world,
858
00:52:04,329 --> 00:52:06,206
we mainly talk about
859
00:52:06,873 --> 00:52:10,377
the flavor,
aroma, acidity.
860
00:52:10,502 --> 00:52:14,631
But in our Persian
culture, in our poetry,
861
00:52:14,756 --> 00:52:20,428
it's mainly talked about
the spirit of wine.
862
00:52:20,554 --> 00:52:25,559
Wine was considered as
like a sun's radiance
863
00:52:25,684 --> 00:52:27,853
in a liquid form.
864
00:52:29,229 --> 00:52:31,606
It was a very sacred thing.
865
00:52:33,150 --> 00:52:35,235
[Vahe] What happened
was that there was
866
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,488
a religious revolution in 1979.
867
00:52:40,615 --> 00:52:43,994
The country became
an Islamic republic.
868
00:52:45,036 --> 00:52:49,624
So immediately, use
of alcohol was banned.
869
00:52:52,043 --> 00:52:53,712
You know, you hear
a lot of these stories
870
00:52:53,879 --> 00:52:56,506
of these Persians fleeing
when the revolution happened.
871
00:52:56,631 --> 00:52:58,425
They fled after the revolution.
872
00:52:58,550 --> 00:53:00,218
It was even harder to get out.
873
00:53:00,385 --> 00:53:02,554
They came with what they had
on their back and, you know,
874
00:53:02,721 --> 00:53:04,556
my mom was eight
months pregnant.
875
00:53:05,223 --> 00:53:08,185
-It was difficult.
-It was really hard, yeah.
876
00:53:09,186 --> 00:53:12,063
[Moe] Of course they closed
down the wineries,
877
00:53:12,230 --> 00:53:17,652
but before the revolution, there
was about like 300 wineries.
878
00:53:19,237 --> 00:53:23,742
But a lot of those vineyards,
they got demolished.
879
00:53:26,203 --> 00:53:31,541
It's unfortunate that when
you get a lot of politics
880
00:53:31,666 --> 00:53:33,710
and religion and
things like that,
881
00:53:33,835 --> 00:53:37,422
they forget history and it
automatically goes to a place
882
00:53:37,589 --> 00:53:40,800
of just like
negative, bad, right?
883
00:53:40,926 --> 00:53:42,552
They took something
that was so important
884
00:53:42,677 --> 00:53:45,222
to my parents' culture
885
00:53:45,347 --> 00:53:49,059
and so it makes-- it makes
it hard, you know, so.
886
00:54:01,279 --> 00:54:03,198
[tense music]
887
00:54:03,323 --> 00:54:05,325
Let's put the
show on the road.
888
00:54:05,784 --> 00:54:07,786
-Let's see.
-As they say.
889
00:54:08,453 --> 00:54:11,748
[Vahe]
So tomorrow, I'll fly to Tehran.
890
00:54:12,624 --> 00:54:14,793
I've never been to Tehran.
891
00:54:14,918 --> 00:54:17,629
Tuesday, Wednesday,
we'll be in the grape region.
892
00:54:18,046 --> 00:54:20,757
This part is Kurdistan.
You see, it's all mountains,
893
00:54:20,882 --> 00:54:23,134
-and we'll get the
grapes from there.
-Mm-hm.
894
00:54:23,301 --> 00:54:25,428
I'm looking for Rasheh grapes.
895
00:54:25,553 --> 00:54:27,389
The harvest has started already,
896
00:54:27,514 --> 00:54:30,433
so it's going to be
treasure trove, you know.
897
00:54:31,226 --> 00:54:32,394
The problem I need to be careful
898
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:34,479
is that we're going
to go around here
899
00:54:34,646 --> 00:54:37,190
with lots of cameras,
drones and whatnot.
900
00:54:37,315 --> 00:54:40,485
And that, you know, it
might attract attention
901
00:54:40,652 --> 00:54:44,364
as to why would anybody video.
902
00:54:44,489 --> 00:54:48,910
So wine is going to
be a distant idea
903
00:54:49,035 --> 00:54:53,331
that we know but not
everyone to know.
904
00:54:53,498 --> 00:54:54,624
Why now?
905
00:54:54,749 --> 00:54:56,543
So at some point
it's the right time.
906
00:54:56,668 --> 00:54:59,170
You know, it's the right
time to do something.
907
00:54:59,671 --> 00:55:04,926
And you know, wine hasn't
been made for 40 years.
908
00:55:05,051 --> 00:55:06,803
It's something new.
909
00:55:10,849 --> 00:55:13,476
Yeah, you'll come
visit me in jail, okay?
910
00:55:13,601 --> 00:55:14,561
It'll be fine, yeah.
911
00:55:14,686 --> 00:55:16,771
You're okay. It'll be okay.
912
00:55:17,689 --> 00:55:23,028
[soft dramatic music]
913
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,700
[Aimee]
He's been talking about this
for four, five years.
914
00:55:28,867 --> 00:55:31,202
I remember every year during
harvest season, he says,
915
00:55:31,369 --> 00:55:33,038
"Should we get the grapes?
Should we bring the grapes in?
916
00:55:33,204 --> 00:55:35,040
Should we go find
grapes in Iran?"
917
00:55:39,461 --> 00:55:41,796
It's a state with very
heavy surveillance
918
00:55:41,921 --> 00:55:43,715
that happens
on a day-to-day basis.
919
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:52,057
I've had friends that,
they got caught drinking
920
00:55:52,182 --> 00:55:54,517
and they wanted to take
him out to the street
921
00:55:54,642 --> 00:55:57,187
and slash him with belts.
922
00:55:59,731 --> 00:56:06,404
[soft dramatic music continues]
923
00:56:06,529 --> 00:56:10,033
[Vahe] So somehow we managed
enough contacts and people
924
00:56:10,158 --> 00:56:12,744
that now it's
gonna be a reality.
925
00:56:13,787 --> 00:56:15,372
I don't know what to expect,
926
00:56:15,497 --> 00:56:18,625
but something's going to
happen, let's put it that way.
927
00:56:20,418 --> 00:56:26,508
[soft dramatic music continues]
928
00:56:40,563 --> 00:56:42,232
We land in Iran
and it's nothing
929
00:56:42,357 --> 00:56:45,276
like I've experienced
before other countries.
930
00:56:45,443 --> 00:56:49,114
There is security concerns.
931
00:56:50,281 --> 00:56:54,369
It is a police state because
there's so many rules
932
00:56:54,494 --> 00:56:56,204
that people have to obey,
933
00:56:56,329 --> 00:57:00,125
so you have to have a lot of
people to enforce those rules.
934
00:57:02,961 --> 00:57:04,963
You asked me if I'm nervous.
935
00:57:05,296 --> 00:57:07,799
It takes a lot to
make me nervous.
936
00:57:09,592 --> 00:57:15,432
[soft dramatic music]
937
00:57:15,557 --> 00:57:16,975
It's one thing being in
prisons,
938
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:20,061
another thing being
in Iranian prison.
939
00:57:24,149 --> 00:57:25,817
[Aimee] This is
gonna be the first time
940
00:57:25,984 --> 00:57:28,278
anyone is making wine
with modern technology
941
00:57:28,403 --> 00:57:29,946
from these Iranian grapes
942
00:57:30,071 --> 00:57:32,157
and that is just too hard
to pass up, honestly.
943
00:57:32,282 --> 00:57:35,201
It's just too exciting.
It's very risky.
944
00:57:37,829 --> 00:57:41,666
[Vahe] I don't look at the risk,
I look only at the rewards.
945
00:57:43,501 --> 00:57:47,547
If we don't take risks in
life, what's the point?
946
00:57:49,674 --> 00:57:51,759
I'm gonna spend
the day in Tehran.
947
00:57:51,885 --> 00:57:53,344
I'll figure out
which are the grapes
948
00:57:53,511 --> 00:57:55,346
that we would like to get.
949
00:57:57,223 --> 00:57:59,851
Hello, nice to meet
you. How are you?
950
00:57:59,976 --> 00:58:01,769
Yes, you want some
jewelry? [laughs]
951
00:58:01,895 --> 00:58:03,480
They might stop us,
ask us questions.
952
00:58:03,605 --> 00:58:06,524
Say we're doing a
documentary on grapes, DNA,
953
00:58:06,691 --> 00:58:08,359
origins of grapes, whatever.
954
00:58:08,485 --> 00:58:15,825
-We'll make it up, something.
-[dramatic orchestral music]
955
00:58:19,621 --> 00:58:24,542
[soft dramatic music]
956
00:58:24,709 --> 00:58:27,879
Now, you know, we are playing
with fire a little bit.
957
00:58:28,713 --> 00:58:30,048
Nice to meet you. Pleasure.
958
00:58:30,215 --> 00:58:32,175
It's so good to meet you.
Thank you very much.
959
00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:35,220
Thanks for having me.
It's a pleasure here.
960
00:58:35,887 --> 00:58:40,517
Anyway, so, my first
time in Tehran.
961
00:58:40,642 --> 00:58:43,728
First time. Looks okay,
I'll come back again, I think.
962
00:58:43,895 --> 00:58:45,188
It's very nice.
963
00:58:45,313 --> 00:58:47,315
So you will translate?
964
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:48,566
How's your English? It's okay?
965
00:58:48,733 --> 00:58:50,485
You understand quite well?
966
00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:51,778
Yeah? Okay.
967
00:58:51,903 --> 00:58:55,615
So the purpose
is for me to buy grapes,
968
00:58:55,740 --> 00:59:00,537
maybe 10, 15 ton of grapes
969
00:59:00,662 --> 00:59:03,456
for us for do research,
970
00:59:03,581 --> 00:59:05,458
do some microvinification.
971
00:59:05,583 --> 00:59:09,963
Try to see, you know,
how Iranian grapes are.
972
00:59:10,088 --> 00:59:14,217
I guess you must produce
a lot of fruit, yeah,
973
00:59:14,342 --> 00:59:16,177
grapes in Iran, yeah?
974
00:59:17,262 --> 00:59:23,059
So my interest, I want to see
what varieties is available,
975
00:59:23,184 --> 00:59:24,310
what we can get.
976
00:59:24,435 --> 00:59:26,354
Maybe we drive around,
we see some vineyards.
977
00:59:26,479 --> 00:59:29,190
If you have a supplier there,
we can go see them,
978
00:59:29,315 --> 00:59:31,818
see the grape and
we can purchase,
979
00:59:31,943 --> 00:59:34,529
if you have anybody
in Kermanshah.
980
00:59:35,029 --> 00:59:37,615
We know historically
grapes were grown there
981
00:59:37,782 --> 00:59:39,158
for thousands of years
982
00:59:39,284 --> 00:59:43,454
because it's one of the
birthplaces of the vine.
983
00:59:43,621 --> 00:59:44,706
Where are the grapes?
984
00:59:44,831 --> 00:59:46,291
I need vineyards.
985
00:59:46,457 --> 00:59:49,627
[wine merchant speaking
in foreign language]
986
00:59:50,503 --> 00:59:53,464
This is Western Azerbaijan
or something, right?
987
00:59:53,590 --> 00:59:56,426
[Liaison] Yeah, and
that is Kermanshah.
988
00:59:56,551 --> 00:59:58,469
[Vahe] Kermanshah?
989
00:59:58,595 --> 01:00:00,805
Does it have a name, this grape?
990
01:00:02,056 --> 01:00:04,934
-[Liaison] Rasheh, Rasheh.
-Rasheh, Rasheh? Okay.
991
01:00:06,936 --> 01:00:13,151
[wine merchant speaking
in foreign language]
992
01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:23,828
Fifteen ton, 10 cent
makes no difference.
993
01:00:23,953 --> 01:00:26,623
One thousand dollar, 500.
994
01:00:27,206 --> 01:00:29,459
[wine merchant speaking
in foreign language]
995
01:00:29,584 --> 01:00:32,003
So tomorrow, where can
we go tomorrow? Tomorrow?
996
01:00:32,170 --> 01:00:33,671
[speaking in foreign language]
997
01:00:33,838 --> 01:00:35,006
Here?
998
01:00:35,506 --> 01:00:38,134
[merchant] Over to Sanandaj,
and here over to Mahabad.
999
01:00:38,259 --> 01:00:41,220
[Vahe] From here, they are
three hours, so five hours?
1000
01:00:42,805 --> 01:00:46,351
[merchant] I think I have a new
road, but I don't...
1001
01:00:46,476 --> 01:00:52,023
[Vahe] So we decided not to
wait and drive to Sanandaj.
1002
01:00:54,525 --> 01:00:58,154
Here we are going to
the hills in Kurdistan
1003
01:00:58,696 --> 01:01:00,573
trying to find grapes,
1004
01:01:00,698 --> 01:01:03,201
and they didn't know
if there were grapes.
1005
01:01:04,535 --> 01:01:07,038
And there was one point
we kept driving, driving.
1006
01:01:07,163 --> 01:01:08,373
I wasn't seeing any vineyards,
1007
01:01:08,539 --> 01:01:10,333
like what the hell
am I going to do
1008
01:01:10,458 --> 01:01:13,211
if there's no grapes
in this goddamn country?
1009
01:01:13,795 --> 01:01:16,547
[liaison speaking
in foreign language]
1010
01:01:16,673 --> 01:01:18,883
No grapes? Grapes, no grapes?
1011
01:01:20,176 --> 01:01:22,053
[translator]
He says six kilometers.
1012
01:01:22,178 --> 01:01:23,888
-Maybe.
-No, no, three kilometers.
1013
01:01:24,013 --> 01:01:26,557
-Maybe, or there is grapes?
-Yes, there is.
1014
01:01:29,102 --> 01:01:36,067
[people chattering]
1015
01:01:36,401 --> 01:01:38,069
Thank you. Vahe.
1016
01:01:38,820 --> 01:01:40,238
And this fellow, he's Kurdish,
1017
01:01:40,405 --> 01:01:42,573
he's gonna accompany
us to a place
1018
01:01:42,699 --> 01:01:45,576
where he knows where
those grapes are grown.
1019
01:01:45,702 --> 01:01:48,037
But he insisted on having tea,
so we're having tea.
1020
01:01:48,162 --> 01:01:49,956
Yes, shall we have tea?
1021
01:01:50,957 --> 01:01:52,125
[people chattering]
1022
01:01:52,250 --> 01:01:54,419
You drink a lot of tea, huh?
1023
01:01:55,294 --> 01:01:56,254
You don't?
1024
01:01:56,421 --> 01:01:58,756
[liaison]
Iranians drinking tea,
1025
01:01:58,881 --> 01:02:00,508
Kurdistan doesn't
have a good tea.
1026
01:02:00,633 --> 01:02:02,969
Yeah, they grow it here?
1027
01:02:03,553 --> 01:02:04,929
Smuggle it, yeah.
1028
01:02:05,096 --> 01:02:05,972
[liaison] The good tea.
1029
01:02:06,097 --> 01:02:07,265
They smuggle tea?
1030
01:02:07,432 --> 01:02:08,391
Why?
1031
01:02:08,516 --> 01:02:09,851
They just take it
in the car, no? No?
1032
01:02:09,976 --> 01:02:11,436
[liaison] No, no.
1033
01:02:11,602 --> 01:02:14,063
If they wanna smuggle,
smuggle something better, no?
1034
01:02:15,606 --> 01:02:19,610
[people speaking in
foreign language]
1035
01:02:19,736 --> 01:02:21,154
What?
1036
01:02:21,279 --> 01:02:24,741
[liaison] He says if you
want some place for resting--
1037
01:02:24,866 --> 01:02:26,576
No, no, it's okay.
Yeah, it's okay.
1038
01:02:26,701 --> 01:02:28,119
We want vineyards.
1039
01:02:28,244 --> 01:02:30,621
We want grapes, vineyards. Yeah.
1040
01:02:31,372 --> 01:02:33,624
[speaking in foreign language]
1041
01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:40,131
[soft piano music]
1042
01:02:44,135 --> 01:02:47,263
[Vahe] Slowly, we started
seeing vineyards.
1043
01:02:49,515 --> 01:02:52,143
So you can see there's a
piece of vineyard there.
1044
01:02:52,727 --> 01:02:56,647
There's an impossible piece
of vineyard over there.
1045
01:02:57,940 --> 01:03:01,068
I have no idea why would anybody
1046
01:03:01,194 --> 01:03:03,321
want to put a vineyard there,
1047
01:03:03,488 --> 01:03:05,490
but I guess they
don't have a choice.
1048
01:03:06,282 --> 01:03:08,075
We'll drive another
half an hour, an hour
1049
01:03:08,201 --> 01:03:10,203
and see what we need.
1050
01:03:11,287 --> 01:03:14,457
How do they farm this land, man?
1051
01:03:14,582 --> 01:03:16,417
Okay, so I'm gonna go.
1052
01:03:17,001 --> 01:03:18,503
Let me go.
1053
01:03:20,087 --> 01:03:26,260
[soft music continues]
1054
01:03:29,847 --> 01:03:31,349
[Vahe grunts]
1055
01:03:34,685 --> 01:03:39,065
[Vahe panting]
1056
01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:43,528
[Vahe laughs]
1057
01:03:43,694 --> 01:03:45,446
Oh, fuck.
1058
01:03:45,822 --> 01:03:47,073
Sorry.
1059
01:03:52,703 --> 01:03:54,705
[Vahe panting]
1060
01:03:54,831 --> 01:03:56,374
Where's the vineyard? There?
1061
01:03:58,125 --> 01:04:01,629
[Vahe panting]
1062
01:04:07,718 --> 01:04:13,516
[soft orchestral music]
1063
01:04:26,904 --> 01:04:29,240
These are definitely ready.
1064
01:04:33,536 --> 01:04:34,745
Perfect, yeah.
1065
01:04:35,413 --> 01:04:39,083
I'm gonna go talk to the owner
and see how much he has
1066
01:04:39,250 --> 01:04:41,210
and what he wants to sell.
1067
01:04:43,254 --> 01:04:48,259
[soft orchestral
music continues]
1068
01:04:49,594 --> 01:04:51,262
[Aimee] When it comes to wine,
he's always, I think,
1069
01:04:51,387 --> 01:04:53,306
been at the right place
at the right time.
1070
01:04:58,603 --> 01:05:01,814
He does all this out
of pure excitement
1071
01:05:01,939 --> 01:05:05,693
and seeing a boundary
and wanting to push it.
1072
01:05:07,570 --> 01:05:11,574
His ability to be
inspiring is contagious.
1073
01:05:16,787 --> 01:05:20,249
[people chattering]
1074
01:05:22,168 --> 01:05:24,879
[soft orchestral
music continues]
1075
01:05:25,004 --> 01:05:28,132
[Vahe] Grapes cannot grow
anywhere for 8,000 years
1076
01:05:28,257 --> 01:05:30,384
and not have something special.
1077
01:05:30,843 --> 01:05:32,887
You know, it's
something beautiful,
1078
01:05:33,012 --> 01:05:35,848
and if people can't see
beauty, it's their problem,
1079
01:05:35,973 --> 01:05:37,475
it's not my problem.
1080
01:05:38,976 --> 01:05:43,773
[soft orchestral
music continues]
1081
01:05:46,734 --> 01:05:52,365
For 40 years, no modern
wine was made in Iran,
1082
01:05:52,490 --> 01:05:55,034
so as if time has stood still.
1083
01:05:57,662 --> 01:05:59,830
Now we're trying to catch up,
1084
01:05:59,997 --> 01:06:04,335
get the grapes, make the
wine and see what they have.
1085
01:06:05,252 --> 01:06:09,173
For a winemaker,
it's the holy grail.
1086
01:06:12,677 --> 01:06:14,553
We used professional people
1087
01:06:14,679 --> 01:06:17,431
that truck between
Iran and Armenia.
1088
01:06:17,556 --> 01:06:20,351
I'm not saying they
bribed or they didn't bribe,
1089
01:06:20,518 --> 01:06:24,814
but I'm saying they figured
it out how to bring it.
1090
01:06:27,525 --> 01:06:30,820
Of course, we have to put a
different name on the paperwork
1091
01:06:30,945 --> 01:06:34,824
so that it crosses the
border with relative ease.
1092
01:06:40,037 --> 01:06:43,249
Shipping grapes for
three days, four days
1093
01:06:43,374 --> 01:06:45,084
is not something common.
1094
01:06:45,376 --> 01:06:48,587
But because
of the circumstances,
we don't have a choice.
1095
01:06:48,713 --> 01:06:52,591
You know, I can't sit there
in Kurdistan and make wine.
1096
01:06:55,302 --> 01:06:56,762
At least not yet.
1097
01:07:05,146 --> 01:07:06,856
Things could go wrong.
1098
01:07:09,025 --> 01:07:11,235
I'm hoping that everything
is perfect, but you never know.
1099
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,612
This is a first for us.
1100
01:07:18,075 --> 01:07:20,202
[Aimee] We're doing something
that maybe some people
1101
01:07:20,327 --> 01:07:24,206
have dreamt of
but never thought
that it would be possible.
1102
01:07:25,374 --> 01:07:30,254
[dramatic orchestral music]
1103
01:07:45,436 --> 01:07:49,148
[Vahe] So far...
so far, so good.
1104
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:58,574
[dramatic orchestral
music continues]
1105
01:08:04,830 --> 01:08:06,540
It's gonna have a huge impact.
1106
01:08:06,665 --> 01:08:08,584
It's going to open talks,
1107
01:08:08,709 --> 01:08:10,669
people are going
to write articles.
1108
01:08:11,420 --> 01:08:15,216
Not because of the wine, but
because of the possibility.
1109
01:08:19,136 --> 01:08:20,638
For Aimee, my daughter,
1110
01:08:20,763 --> 01:08:23,432
you know, there's a
big question mark.
1111
01:08:24,225 --> 01:08:25,893
[Aimee] I am very concerned.
1112
01:08:27,144 --> 01:08:30,439
We don't know how the
government is going to react.
1113
01:08:31,232 --> 01:08:34,360
There isn't a precedent
for something like this.
1114
01:08:39,073 --> 01:08:42,493
[Vahe] Perhaps the Iranian
government might not like it.
1115
01:08:44,161 --> 01:08:45,871
I don't know what they can do.
1116
01:08:46,580 --> 01:08:47,832
I'm not going to not do it
1117
01:08:47,957 --> 01:08:49,917
because it might
happen, you know?
1118
01:08:56,507 --> 01:08:58,592
[speaks indistinctly]
1119
01:09:00,052 --> 01:09:01,303
-Twenty-two?
-Yeah, 22.
1120
01:09:01,428 --> 01:09:03,430
-Twenty-two.
-Exactly 22.
1121
01:09:03,973 --> 01:09:06,559
Now we have something
special, I think.
1122
01:09:06,684 --> 01:09:08,519
-We can start the process.
-Cool.
1123
01:09:08,644 --> 01:09:10,980
-Let's get it done, yeah?
-Yellah.
1124
01:09:12,356 --> 01:09:14,275
Okay, yellah.
1125
01:09:15,276 --> 01:09:18,863
[Vahe] It was risk worth
taking, you know, so we'll see.
1126
01:09:20,197 --> 01:09:22,449
She's fine. She'll be okay.
1127
01:09:24,869 --> 01:09:28,789
[Aimee] I think it's a
wait-and-see kind of thing.
1128
01:09:31,375 --> 01:09:35,963
[soft piano music]
1129
01:09:44,054 --> 01:09:48,893
[tense jazz music]
1130
01:09:52,354 --> 01:09:56,275
[Vahe] We bottled the wine
and we had to get a pulse
1131
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,236
and we wanted to put it
in front of professionals
1132
01:09:59,403 --> 01:10:01,906
to see what we had achieved.
1133
01:10:04,450 --> 01:10:05,951
[Aimee] I think it represents
1134
01:10:06,076 --> 01:10:08,120
-the Persian culture very well.
-Yeah, it's very nice.
1135
01:10:08,996 --> 01:10:11,248
Came out beautifully,
it's wonderful.
1136
01:10:11,415 --> 01:10:12,416
Yeah.
1137
01:10:12,583 --> 01:10:14,418
-Yeah.
-I like it, yeah.
1138
01:10:15,044 --> 01:10:16,712
I'm sure people
will like it, too.
1139
01:10:18,547 --> 01:10:20,716
Before we release the wine,
1140
01:10:20,841 --> 01:10:23,844
we can know what kind
of product we have
1141
01:10:23,969 --> 01:10:26,096
and how to approach it
and how to release it
1142
01:10:26,222 --> 01:10:27,932
and what we're going
to do next,
1143
01:10:28,057 --> 01:10:29,975
and New York is
the place to do it.
1144
01:10:30,100 --> 01:10:33,979
New York City is
the most dynamic.
1145
01:10:34,104 --> 01:10:37,233
Top restaurants and
the top sommeliers.
1146
01:10:38,359 --> 01:10:41,946
Well, I'm very nervous
because it's one thing
1147
01:10:42,071 --> 01:10:45,699
you make the wine, you
taste it during its progress
1148
01:10:45,824 --> 01:10:47,868
and you become very
acquainted to it.
1149
01:10:47,993 --> 01:10:49,828
And then you can
be often biased,
1150
01:10:49,954 --> 01:10:51,789
so it's very important
not to be biased.
1151
01:10:51,914 --> 01:10:56,835
So that's the anxiety,
if anything, I have
1152
01:10:56,961 --> 01:11:00,631
and butterflies right
before we taste,
1153
01:11:00,756 --> 01:11:03,926
because, "What if,
what if," in my mind.
1154
01:11:06,762 --> 01:11:12,977
[soft dramatic music]
1155
01:11:32,037 --> 01:11:33,497
I've been carrying
these things.
1156
01:11:33,622 --> 01:11:35,374
I'll put it down
before I break it.
1157
01:11:35,499 --> 01:11:37,251
[Sabato] All right,
it made it all this way.
1158
01:11:37,376 --> 01:11:38,669
Amazing.
1159
01:11:40,379 --> 01:11:47,553
[soft dramatic music continues]
1160
01:11:50,347 --> 01:11:52,641
-Hi.
-Oh, sorry.
1161
01:11:52,766 --> 01:11:53,851
Dustin, good to see you.
How's it going?
1162
01:11:54,018 --> 01:11:55,394
-Good, you?
-Pleasure.
1163
01:11:55,519 --> 01:11:56,562
-Nice to meet you.
-Good to meet you.
1164
01:11:56,687 --> 01:11:57,771
-Lovely show.
-Thank you.
1165
01:11:57,896 --> 01:11:59,606
Thanks very much.
Yeah, absolutely.
1166
01:11:59,732 --> 01:12:01,233
-Looking forward
to tasting with you.
-Very excited to meet you.
1167
01:12:01,358 --> 01:12:02,818
You've come a long
way to get here.
1168
01:12:04,361 --> 01:12:07,448
So, first bottle, you'll
be the first to taste it,
1169
01:12:07,573 --> 01:12:08,490
outside of Armenia.
1170
01:12:08,615 --> 01:12:09,867
-Armenia--
-Wow.
1171
01:12:10,034 --> 01:12:11,702
Where we made at the
winery, we've tasted it.
1172
01:12:11,869 --> 01:12:14,038
But outside you will
be the first, so--
1173
01:12:14,163 --> 01:12:16,248
-This has come a long way.
-I'm a bit apprehensive.
1174
01:12:16,373 --> 01:12:18,751
I don't know, but I'm guessing
1175
01:12:18,876 --> 01:12:20,669
it will do just fine, you know?
1176
01:12:20,794 --> 01:12:23,589
You're a tough judge,
I'm guessing.
1177
01:12:23,714 --> 01:12:25,799
It's not like my
friends or something,
1178
01:12:25,924 --> 01:12:28,469
so your input will be,
you know, because it's--
1179
01:12:28,594 --> 01:12:29,887
-I've heard the story.
-No one's tasted it,
1180
01:12:30,054 --> 01:12:32,473
so I'm apprehensive,
will people like it,
1181
01:12:32,598 --> 01:12:35,017
and the whole journey to
make something like this.
1182
01:12:35,142 --> 01:12:37,102
-Right.
-And then you're kind of like,
1183
01:12:37,227 --> 01:12:39,480
was it all worth it,
you know, so.
1184
01:12:39,605 --> 01:12:41,398
Right, well,
what do you think?
1185
01:12:41,565 --> 01:12:43,650
Yeah, no, I think
of course, it's worth it.
1186
01:12:43,776 --> 01:12:45,069
-Yeah.
-Hopefully,
1187
01:12:45,235 --> 01:12:47,613
it's the first bottle,
1188
01:12:47,738 --> 01:12:50,324
actually without
over dramatizing it,
1189
01:12:50,449 --> 01:12:53,660
it will be the first
bottle of fine Iranian wine
1190
01:12:53,786 --> 01:12:56,663
-ever made in the last 40, 50--
-Wow.
1191
01:12:56,789 --> 01:12:58,415
Forty-some years.
1192
01:12:58,540 --> 01:12:59,958
And before that there
was no technology
1193
01:13:00,084 --> 01:13:01,585
-to make wines like this.
-Sure.
1194
01:13:01,752 --> 01:13:05,881
So this would be
the first bottle made,
1195
01:13:06,006 --> 01:13:08,717
modern style wine
in the history of Iran,
1196
01:13:08,842 --> 01:13:10,052
let's put it that way.
1197
01:13:10,177 --> 01:13:12,179
So for what it's worth,
we tasted it
1198
01:13:12,304 --> 01:13:17,059
and I am hoping, I'm hoping
we are onto something.
1199
01:13:17,184 --> 01:13:19,144
[Dustin] Now what do
you hope to accomplish
with this wine?
1200
01:13:19,269 --> 01:13:22,231
-Do you have some--
-This wine,
just start curiosity,
1201
01:13:22,356 --> 01:13:24,900
I think, you know?
1202
01:13:25,025 --> 01:13:27,569
You know, the romantic in me
says maybe the government
1203
01:13:27,694 --> 01:13:31,073
might allow a little
bit of wine to be made
1204
01:13:31,198 --> 01:13:34,284
within a decade or
maybe two decades.
1205
01:13:34,451 --> 01:13:37,246
Things will open up and we'll
be able to taste more wines.
1206
01:13:37,371 --> 01:13:39,623
Well, it's a way more humble
answer than I was expecting.
1207
01:13:39,790 --> 01:13:42,292
-[Vahe] Yeah.
-I mean, you could do
a lot with this thing.
1208
01:13:42,459 --> 01:13:44,795
-Yeah.
-Change the whole world.
1209
01:13:44,962 --> 01:13:47,297
-If you don't mind opening it.
-I'd be happy to.
1210
01:13:47,423 --> 01:13:49,091
-Yeah.
-Thanks.
1211
01:13:51,218 --> 01:13:54,471
Honored to be the first
one to taste this with you.
1212
01:13:54,638 --> 01:13:56,723
I'm honored to taste
it with you also.
1213
01:13:56,849 --> 01:13:58,058
Do you wanna do the honors?
1214
01:13:58,183 --> 01:14:00,018
-May I?
-Yeah, of course, of course.
1215
01:14:00,144 --> 01:14:01,311
So tell me about
the label here.
1216
01:14:01,478 --> 01:14:02,479
Okay.
1217
01:14:02,646 --> 01:14:03,772
It's from the Iranian motifs.
1218
01:14:03,897 --> 01:14:05,107
This is very typical.
1219
01:14:05,232 --> 01:14:08,485
Molana is a very
famous poet, Rumi.
1220
01:14:08,610 --> 01:14:10,446
-Rasheh is the grape.
-Yeah.
1221
01:14:10,571 --> 01:14:12,865
Sardasht is the region.
1222
01:14:12,990 --> 01:14:15,451
And here I added
a little bit of--
1223
01:14:15,576 --> 01:14:18,203
-I saw that, yeah.
-[Vahe laughs]
1224
01:14:18,787 --> 01:14:20,080
-[Sabato] All right.
-It's the first bottling.
1225
01:14:20,205 --> 01:14:22,082
-Moment of truth, as they say.
-All right.
1226
01:14:22,207 --> 01:14:25,669
Honored to be able to
serve you your wine.
1227
01:14:25,836 --> 01:14:27,713
[Vahe] My heartbeat is 120.
1228
01:14:27,838 --> 01:14:29,381
[both laughing]
1229
01:14:30,299 --> 01:14:34,803
And my misery,
so you can taste the wine.
1230
01:14:38,307 --> 01:14:40,184
Good fruit, nice.
1231
01:14:41,852 --> 01:14:43,145
[Sabato] I'm sorry I don't have
1232
01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:45,105
any Reidel Rasheh
glasses here for you.
1233
01:14:45,230 --> 01:14:48,275
No, no, I don't-- [laughs]
It's going to be a while.
1234
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,235
-[Dustin] Slightly nervous?
-A little bit, yeah.
1235
01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:52,613
More, I am definitely
nervous. Yeah.
1236
01:14:52,738 --> 01:14:54,740
-Cheers, sorry.
-Thank you, this is wild.
1237
01:14:54,865 --> 01:14:57,576
Thank you. Thanks
for having-- having me.
1238
01:14:59,369 --> 01:15:03,081
It will open up a bit.
I think it's cold because...
1239
01:15:03,207 --> 01:15:04,833
So it's fresh, nice,
bright fruit.
1240
01:15:04,958 --> 01:15:06,376
-It smells great.
-Yeah.
1241
01:15:06,502 --> 01:15:08,212
A nice little black cherry,
I think, you know.
1242
01:15:08,337 --> 01:15:10,797
I'll let you do the
description, too.
1243
01:15:12,508 --> 01:15:14,635
Mostly cherry, I think.
1244
01:15:17,387 --> 01:15:19,431
Good fruit. Good...
1245
01:15:19,556 --> 01:15:23,894
It's for you to say, honestly,
because I've had it a few times.
1246
01:15:25,395 --> 01:15:30,901
[soft dramatic music]
1247
01:15:32,819 --> 01:15:34,696
You know, it's hard
to place, to compare.
1248
01:15:34,821 --> 01:15:36,031
-It's really good.
-Yeah, yeah.
1249
01:15:36,156 --> 01:15:37,533
-It's really good.
-You like it?
1250
01:15:37,658 --> 01:15:38,617
-Yeah, it's very good.
-Thank you.
1251
01:15:38,742 --> 01:15:39,576
-Yeah.
-Thank you.
1252
01:15:39,701 --> 01:15:40,702
-Cheers.
-Cheers.
1253
01:15:40,827 --> 01:15:41,745
-Thank you.
-Well done.
1254
01:15:41,870 --> 01:15:42,996
-Thank you.
-Wow.
1255
01:15:43,205 --> 01:15:47,793
This is by far
the best Iranian wine
1256
01:15:47,918 --> 01:15:50,045
made in Armenia
that I've ever had.
1257
01:15:50,170 --> 01:15:52,673
[Vahe laughs]
Thank you.
1258
01:15:52,798 --> 01:15:54,216
Thank you for sharing this.
1259
01:15:54,341 --> 01:15:59,012
But no, in, in all
seriousness, it's very unique.
1260
01:15:59,346 --> 01:16:01,932
I'm thinking about the
people that harvested that
1261
01:16:02,057 --> 01:16:04,893
and it's just yesterday they
were harvesting table grapes
1262
01:16:05,018 --> 01:16:05,978
and today they're
harvesting this,
1263
01:16:06,103 --> 01:16:07,896
but here we are in New York City
1264
01:16:08,021 --> 01:16:10,816
drinking the fruits of
their labor and yours,
1265
01:16:10,941 --> 01:16:13,902
and it's amazing when you
think about how many people
1266
01:16:14,027 --> 01:16:16,280
are involved in producing
this and the worlds
1267
01:16:16,405 --> 01:16:18,448
and lives that they
live to put it together
1268
01:16:18,615 --> 01:16:19,950
to tell the story in the glass.
1269
01:16:20,075 --> 01:16:21,702
It's pretty, pretty amazing.
1270
01:16:21,827 --> 01:16:26,456
You know, there's
these moments where
I've been very lucky
1271
01:16:26,623 --> 01:16:28,083
to drink a lot of great wine.
1272
01:16:28,208 --> 01:16:31,044
And sometimes, you know,
you're drinking something
1273
01:16:31,169 --> 01:16:33,088
that means so much historically,
1274
01:16:33,213 --> 01:16:36,717
or it's so old or it's
such a rare experience
1275
01:16:37,467 --> 01:16:40,178
that that part kind of
takes over, you know,
1276
01:16:40,304 --> 01:16:42,514
and the wine itself might
just be kind of so so.
1277
01:16:42,639 --> 01:16:43,974
-Yeah, yeah.
-You know?
1278
01:16:44,099 --> 01:16:45,809
-This is very cool because--
-It has both.
1279
01:16:45,934 --> 01:16:47,436
This has both. Yeah.
1280
01:16:47,561 --> 01:16:49,146
[Sabato] I mean, I have
friends that are Iranian
1281
01:16:49,271 --> 01:16:50,856
that live in the United States
1282
01:16:50,981 --> 01:16:53,108
and they've never
tasted wine like this.
1283
01:16:53,233 --> 01:16:56,028
And so I can only imagine
what this is like for them,
1284
01:16:56,153 --> 01:16:58,905
for, you know, having family
or knowing an appreciation
1285
01:16:59,031 --> 01:17:01,158
for where they came from
to be able to drink this
1286
01:17:01,325 --> 01:17:05,495
with people they love that
have endured a lot to be here,
1287
01:17:05,621 --> 01:17:09,082
so I think that's really
special from that standpoint.
1288
01:17:09,207 --> 01:17:13,587
I think it's great
for the wine community,
1289
01:17:13,712 --> 01:17:15,172
wine loving community,
1290
01:17:15,339 --> 01:17:17,507
and then of course
the Iranian community
1291
01:17:17,633 --> 01:17:19,509
who haven't had Iranian wine
1292
01:17:19,635 --> 01:17:22,679
since they left
Iran or any Iranian
1293
01:17:22,846 --> 01:17:25,015
in the last 40-some years.
1294
01:17:52,334 --> 01:17:54,086
[Naseem]
Hey, can I have you?
1295
01:17:56,546 --> 01:17:57,881
Follow me.
1296
01:18:01,510 --> 01:18:03,804
Follow me up top.
1297
01:18:07,432 --> 01:18:10,143
Well, they have
something for you.
1298
01:18:13,063 --> 01:18:14,523
Oh, my God.
1299
01:18:14,648 --> 01:18:15,691
You wanna read it?
1300
01:18:15,816 --> 01:18:16,942
Yeah.
1301
01:18:17,067 --> 01:18:18,568
-Do you know what this is?
-Glasses.
1302
01:18:18,694 --> 01:18:19,945
Do you know what it is?
1303
01:18:20,612 --> 01:18:22,030
Is it from Armenia?
1304
01:18:22,155 --> 01:18:24,282
Keep going, keep reading it.
1305
01:18:27,244 --> 01:18:29,746
-Iranian...
-Dad, they've--
1306
01:18:29,871 --> 01:18:32,416
this is the first wine
that's been made out of Iran.
1307
01:18:32,582 --> 01:18:34,251
They smuggled the grapes.
1308
01:18:35,043 --> 01:18:37,254
-Took it--
-That's amazing.
1309
01:18:37,379 --> 01:18:38,463
How do you feel?
1310
01:18:39,923 --> 01:18:40,966
Emotional.
1311
01:18:41,091 --> 01:18:42,384
[Moe and Naseem chuckle]
1312
01:18:44,511 --> 01:18:46,847
-That's so great.
-[voice breaking] Yeah.
1313
01:18:48,974 --> 01:18:51,935
So this is-- this is
history coming back.
1314
01:18:52,853 --> 01:18:53,937
Thanks.
1315
01:18:54,062 --> 01:18:55,522
You wanna open it?
1316
01:18:55,647 --> 01:18:56,940
Sure.
1317
01:18:58,442 --> 01:19:00,485
-Dad, I'm gonna cry.
-[Moe laughs]
1318
01:19:01,653 --> 01:19:03,572
I can't even see right now.
1319
01:19:05,782 --> 01:19:10,370
[soft orchestral music]
1320
01:19:10,495 --> 01:19:13,331
So, that daughter and father,
1321
01:19:13,457 --> 01:19:19,463
they smuggled in the grapes
to Armenia
1322
01:19:19,588 --> 01:19:20,464
and they...
1323
01:19:20,589 --> 01:19:22,966
From Shiraz or?
1324
01:19:23,133 --> 01:19:24,050
Sardasht, yeah.
1325
01:19:24,176 --> 01:19:25,427
-Yeah.
-Yeah.
1326
01:19:25,552 --> 01:19:28,221
Yeah, I used to
pass through that town
1327
01:19:28,346 --> 01:19:31,057
-almost every week
with your mom.
-[Naseem chuckles]
1328
01:19:32,642 --> 01:19:34,519
[Moe] They have
great grapes in there.
1329
01:19:34,644 --> 01:19:36,146
[Naseem] Yeah, so...
1330
01:19:40,192 --> 01:19:42,569
You wanna pour it?
I'll give you the honors.
1331
01:19:44,946 --> 01:19:51,328
[soft piano music]
1332
01:19:53,914 --> 01:19:55,749
-Cheers.
-Cheers.
1333
01:19:55,874 --> 01:19:57,459
Be salamati.
1334
01:20:02,047 --> 01:20:05,634
-You could smell the dirt.
-Mm-hmm.
1335
01:20:07,844 --> 01:20:10,972
[Naseem] "This wine was crafted
to transcend time and place.
1336
01:20:11,097 --> 01:20:13,391
Named after the
prolific Persian poet,
1337
01:20:13,517 --> 01:20:16,812
the wine resembles
its namesake emphasis
1338
01:20:16,937 --> 01:20:18,230
on purity and elegance.
1339
01:20:18,355 --> 01:20:20,232
It is fresh and
playful on the palate
1340
01:20:20,357 --> 01:20:22,150
with a strong
sense of provenance
1341
01:20:22,275 --> 01:20:24,986
due to the terroir the
grapes were grown in.
1342
01:20:25,111 --> 01:20:28,532
Rumi was an experimental
innovator among
the Persian poets
1343
01:20:28,657 --> 01:20:31,868
who had a mystical appeal
and bold poetic forms.
1344
01:20:31,993 --> 01:20:33,912
This wine echoes just that."
1345
01:20:34,037 --> 01:20:36,331
That is so great.
1346
01:20:36,873 --> 01:20:38,625
Molana, yeah.
1347
01:20:40,043 --> 01:20:43,964
I really smell the place.
1348
01:20:44,756 --> 01:20:45,966
I'm serious.
1349
01:20:46,299 --> 01:20:48,051
[Naseem] Well,
they did a great job.
1350
01:20:50,637 --> 01:20:57,602
[soft dramatic music]
1351
01:20:59,229 --> 01:21:00,897
[Naseem laughs]
1352
01:21:01,565 --> 01:21:03,525
It's like bringing
everyone together again.
1353
01:21:03,650 --> 01:21:07,654
And that Armenians
make great, great wines.
1354
01:21:07,779 --> 01:21:12,325
They're just known
for it throughout
the history, actually.
1355
01:21:14,744 --> 01:21:19,958
I really feel not only very
honored, but very emotional.
1356
01:21:21,751 --> 01:21:23,295
They did a great job.
1357
01:21:23,420 --> 01:21:24,796
You know, I'm even-- [laughs]
1358
01:21:24,921 --> 01:21:27,132
I'm gonna drink quite
a bit of this tonight.
1359
01:21:27,424 --> 01:21:32,178
Well, hopefully, one day
we'll have our wine in there.
1360
01:21:36,474 --> 01:21:40,729
Well, at least we can
share some with the family.
1361
01:21:42,480 --> 01:21:49,613
[soft orchestral music]
1362
01:21:55,410 --> 01:21:56,953
[Aimee] For thousands
of years, bottles of wine
1363
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,165
have graced our dinner
tables on a regular basis.
1364
01:22:00,665 --> 01:22:03,376
Common dinner table topics
that are not to be discussed
1365
01:22:03,501 --> 01:22:05,670
are religion, politics.
1366
01:22:06,922 --> 01:22:09,215
But the truth is
that bottle of wine
1367
01:22:09,341 --> 01:22:10,884
sitting in the
middle of that table
1368
01:22:11,009 --> 01:22:13,970
came from religion
and survived politics
1369
01:22:14,137 --> 01:22:16,306
to get to that place.
1370
01:22:24,648 --> 01:22:28,109
[Vahe] There is a certain poetic
beauty of continuing something
1371
01:22:28,234 --> 01:22:32,739
that people started
6,000, 7,000 years ago.
1372
01:22:32,864 --> 01:22:35,033
And if you don't have
that kind of poetic beauty
1373
01:22:35,158 --> 01:22:38,453
in your life, what's
the purpose, really?
1374
01:22:38,578 --> 01:22:44,292
[dramatic orchestral music]
1375
01:23:09,401 --> 01:23:16,533
[dramatic orchestral
music continues]
1376
01:23:39,723 --> 01:23:46,855
[dramatic orchestral
music continues]
1377
01:23:59,325 --> 01:24:04,164
[dramatic orchestral
music continues]
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