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You look great.
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Are you sure?
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I swear.
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You're perfect.
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Okay, people.
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Places, everyone.
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Places!
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Quiet on set!
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And action.
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My Best Defense.
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It literally does everything.
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Shields your skin from harmful
UV rays, hides blemishes,
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leaves you looking
and feeling flawless.
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Use it as part of your
daily skincare routine.
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It's the only protection
you'll ever need.
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And cut!
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Beautiful.
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Let's reset and do it
one more time.
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There's a guy downstairs
looking for you.
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She's a kid.
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Can't be more than 16, 17.
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MLI says body temp
and rigidity puts time of death
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between 7:00 and 10:00 p.m.
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We got a name?
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No.
No wallet, no ID, no phone.
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Oh, boy.
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Looks like she went face first
into this dumpster, huh?
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Yeah, she was strangled too.
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Got petechial hemorrhaging in
her eyes, marks on her neck.
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Oh.
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Necktie.
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Make sure we get that to
the lab and have that tested.
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Clothing still intact, so
probably not a sexual assault.
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Who found the body?
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Maintenance guy
from the flower shop nearby.
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911 call came in at 8:07 p.m.
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You know, I noticed
they had a camera.
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Let's make sure
we get that footage, okay?
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Mm-hmm.
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Somebody lost
their child tonight.
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And they probably
don't even know it.
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About an hour ago,
I was taking out the trash.
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I saw her legs.
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And then all of a sudden,
a guy bolted
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from behind the dumpster.
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Which way did he go?
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- Up towards that corner.
- Thank you.
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You get a good look at him?
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Yeah, uh, white,
thin, about 5'5".
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Hair color?
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Blond.
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And he was wearing
a blue puffy jacket.
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Okay.
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We're looking for a male,
5'5", thin, blond hair,
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wearing a blue jacket.
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Let's set up a perimeter north
of Christopher, south of Bank.
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Let's go.
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Yeah, blue puffer. Hey, kid.
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Hey! Police!
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Kid, stop!
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NYPD!
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Hey! Stop!
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Hey! Do not move!
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Keep your hands right there.
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Get on the van.
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That's nice.
Where'd you get this?
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- I found it.
- You found it, huh? Where?
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- In the trash.
- In the trash.
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- How old are you?
- 18.
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- Try again.
- 15.
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15.
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He's 15.
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We recovered the murder weapon,
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and we're getting it
tested for DNA.
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And if it's a match,
that means life in prison.
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I didn't kill anyone, though.
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Does this kid look
like he wears a necktie?
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We got a witness that says
they saw him running away
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from the dead woman's body.
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He was found
with a very expensive
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piece of women's jewelry.
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Now, I'm willing
to bet that we will
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be able to prove
that that bracelet
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belongs to the dead girl.
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Yeah.
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I was looking for food.
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And she was already dead,
so I took the bracelet.
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All right, and how about
her phone and her wallet?
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That's all there was.
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I swear.
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You living on the street?
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His mother has
a problem with drugs.
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How about your father?
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I don't have one.
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All right.
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We will be right back.
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Did the kid's story
check out?
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Got video from
the flower shop
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that was near the crime scene.
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Check this out.
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So that is our victim
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27 minutes before
the maintenance guy found her.
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But keep watching.
It gets interesting.
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Whoever the mystery man is,
he drags her
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in the direction
of the dumpster,
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where the body was found.
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And then...
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24 minutes later, there's Joey
walking towards the dumpster--
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no cameras back there.
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Then three minutes later,
he comes back out
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with the vic's bracelet.
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He's telling the truth.
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Okay, call Social Services.
- Already did.
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Uh, how'd you make out
at Missing Persons?
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I cross-checked
all the new reports.
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No luck.
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Facial rec?
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Flower shop footage
is too grainy.
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This is the only other photo
we have of her,
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and her face is too messed up
to make a comparison.
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Poor kid.
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The victim's DNA
is on the necktie,
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along with someone else's.
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You run it through
the database?
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It's not in the system, so we
can eliminate convicted felons.
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Anything else?
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Well, it's likely
a Caucasian male,
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but there's no shared genetic
makeup with the victim.
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So we can eliminate
biological family members.
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Well, that only leaves us
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with a few hundred million
suspects.
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Yeah.
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Well, in the more
bad news department,
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I still haven't been
able to determine
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this victim's identity.
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I can't believe her parents
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haven't reported
her missing yet.
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I know.
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- Thank you.
- Yeah.
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Vince, I need you guys to
go back and canvass the area
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around the crime scene,
see if anybody can identify
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the picture of the vic.
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Have you seen this woman?
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Sorry.
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- Any luck?
- None.
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Excuse me, miss?
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Have you seen this woman?
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Yeah, I've seen her
around the neighborhood.
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Do you know her name?
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I've got ten preschool kids
to keep an eye on.
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I don't really have time
to socialize.
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How about yesterday?
You see her yesterday?
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Yeah.
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She was with a guy,
and he was yelling at her.
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Could you hear
what he was saying?
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No.
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What time was this?
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Well, I was on my way home
from work, so around 4:30.
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And this guy, had you
ever seen him before?
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No, sorry.
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Can you describe
what he looked like?
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Uh, white, medium build,
medium height, bald.
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How old was he?
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Old. Like, 50?
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Oh, and he was
smoking a cigarette.
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Can you show us
where he was standing?
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Thank you.
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I don't see
any cigarette butts.
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Mm.
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Here we go.
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It's a long shot.
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Maybe we can get some
prints off the box.
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I'll call the lab,
see if they can rush it.
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Yeah, if we can't
get him on murder,
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maybe we can get him
for littering.
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Mr. Paven, NYPD.
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Need to ask you
a few questions.
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Hey, what's up?
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You know this woman?
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What'd she say?
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- Nothing now.
- You got a gun on you?
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- Yeah.
- Hands on the car.
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Oh, wait, man!
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But the gun is legal.
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All right? I'm on the job.
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You're a limo driver.
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Yeah, I also work
private security.
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Yeah, well, if everything
checks out, you'll get it back.
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Come on.
- I'm not going anywhere, man.
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My client is in that building.
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Tell him he's gotta find
another ride.
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Is this really necessary?
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Look, whatever that
bitch said, it is a lie.
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You've got a lot of anger
towards this young woman--
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girl--
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and she's dead.
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And we have a witness who saw
you bullying her a few hours
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before she was killed.
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Now, why were you, a grown man,
yelling at a teenage girl
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on the sidewalk?
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Maybe I should have
a lawyer here or something.
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That's fine by me.
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In the meantime, I'm going to
confiscate your gun.
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Wait, look,
I need that for work.
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I've got a license for it.
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You can't just
take that from me.
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Yes, I can.
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You're a person of interest
in a murder case.
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You're refusing to
cooperate with the police.
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As far as I'm concerned,
that makes you
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a threat to public safety.
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H--hold on.
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Look.
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My son, all right, he follows
that girl on social media.
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She was pushing some
new sports drink.
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You know, said that
it would make him strong
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and full of energy
or some bull like that.
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I mean, this girl
made it a contest.
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How many can you
drink in a row?
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So my kid ended up downing,
like, five of them
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in less than an hour.
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And there was
so much caffeine in it
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that he ended up having
a freaking heart attack.
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I'm serious, all right?
He almost died.
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How did you find her?
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That girl posted,
like, everything she did,
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literally everything.
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So I knew that she was
doing a commercial.
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She even said the name
of the studio.
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So I looked it up,
went down there,
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and, you know, I had
a little talk with her.
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Okay, where were you between
7:00 and 10:00 p.m. last night?
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I was in Jersey
with a client.
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I can give you his
contact info if you need.
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Yeah, I'm gonna need
the name of the young woman
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you accosted.
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Kaitlyn was so special.
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She's beautiful,
inside and out.
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I've gotta ask,
is there a reason
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that you didn't report
your daughter missing?
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She didn't live here.
We didn't know.
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She doesn't live here anymore.
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She was 17?
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Yeah, um...
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She's a--a--
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she was a model,
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so she lived
with a group of models.
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No school?
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She graduated early.
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But we're still
very much involved.
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We--we spoke to her
every night.
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Just not last night.
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We were at a premiere,
Michelle's premiere.
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She's a--she's a film director.
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I promised my daughter
I'd take her this weekend.
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Was Kaitlyn having
any problems with anyone?
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She--
She had a boyfriend.
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He's--he's a little older.
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They were in the process
of breaking up.
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Who the hell lets their
daughter live alone at 17?
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What do you mean?
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Kids leave for college
all the time at 18.
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Same thing.
- No, no, no.
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00:12:00,300 --> 00:12:02,480
Big difference
between 17 and 18.
265
00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,910
And college is filled
with college kids, you know?
266
00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,520
You gotta let them fly
at some point, bro.
267
00:12:07,530 --> 00:12:09,310
All I know is,
when my daughter turns 17,
268
00:12:09,310 --> 00:12:11,440
she's not shacking up with some
20-year-old dude named Dylan.
269
00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,190
She's dead?
270
00:12:17,190 --> 00:12:18,620
Oh.
271
00:12:18,620 --> 00:12:20,670
That's, like, surreal.
272
00:12:22,450 --> 00:12:23,450
Yeah.
273
00:12:23,450 --> 00:12:25,110
Uh, hey, hey, Dylan.
274
00:12:25,110 --> 00:12:26,500
Yeah?
275
00:12:26,500 --> 00:12:27,810
Are you planning
on going somewhere?
276
00:12:27,810 --> 00:12:29,940
I just got back from Paris.
277
00:12:29,940 --> 00:12:32,030
I was there
for a magazine shoot.
278
00:12:32,030 --> 00:12:34,680
When's the last time
you spoke to Kaitlyn?
279
00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:37,250
I texted her last night
at 8:00 when I landed at JFK.
280
00:12:37,250 --> 00:12:38,990
Never heard back.
281
00:12:38,990 --> 00:12:40,470
Did that surprise you?
282
00:12:40,470 --> 00:12:42,470
We've been fighting a lot.
283
00:12:42,470 --> 00:12:44,690
About what?
284
00:12:46,390 --> 00:12:48,220
She was cheating on me.
285
00:12:48,220 --> 00:12:49,830
What makes you say that?
286
00:12:49,830 --> 00:12:51,610
She'd been acting all weird,
spending a lot of time
287
00:12:51,610 --> 00:12:53,960
with other people.
288
00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:59,660
And she didn't wanna be,
you know, intimate.
289
00:12:59,660 --> 00:13:01,670
Any idea who she was seeing?
290
00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,150
Can you show us her room?
291
00:13:16,940 --> 00:13:19,200
This her laptop?
292
00:13:19,210 --> 00:13:20,690
You know the password?
293
00:13:32,090 --> 00:13:33,830
Two hours before the murder,
she googled
294
00:13:33,830 --> 00:13:35,870
the address of Daisy's Donuts.
295
00:13:35,870 --> 00:13:37,530
Four blocks
from the murder scene.
296
00:13:37,530 --> 00:13:38,700
Looks like they make
a hell of a cruller,
297
00:13:38,700 --> 00:13:40,050
I'll give them that.
298
00:13:40,050 --> 00:13:42,400
Does anyone remember
seeing Kaitlyn?
299
00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,230
- Nope.
- Did they have cameras?
300
00:13:44,230 --> 00:13:45,880
They weren't working.
301
00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,710
Manager just emailed me
the credit card receipts.
302
00:13:48,710 --> 00:13:50,060
Is her boyfriend's name
in there?
303
00:13:52,020 --> 00:13:54,540
I don't see it.
304
00:13:54,550 --> 00:13:55,760
This is interesting, though.
305
00:14:02,470 --> 00:14:03,640
Did you find something?
306
00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:04,950
Do you know who
killed my daughter?
307
00:14:04,950 --> 00:14:06,510
We need to speak
to your husband right now.
308
00:14:06,510 --> 00:14:08,210
Is he here?
- Yes, yes. Of course.
309
00:14:08,210 --> 00:14:09,600
Come in. He's--
310
00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,390
What's going on?
311
00:14:14,390 --> 00:14:16,480
Do you guys have an update?
- We do.
312
00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,610
We can talk about it
down at the precinct.
313
00:14:18,610 --> 00:14:20,090
Now?
314
00:14:20,090 --> 00:14:21,440
Right now.
315
00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,700
It's a little late
in the day.
316
00:14:23,700 --> 00:14:25,400
Couldn't we do this
first thing in the morning?
317
00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,010
No, this can't wait.
318
00:14:27,010 --> 00:14:29,750
And we would prefer
to do it in our office.
319
00:14:29,750 --> 00:14:32,580
So we need you to come with us.
320
00:14:32,580 --> 00:14:34,450
I don't understand.
What's the problem?
321
00:14:34,450 --> 00:14:35,890
Am I under arrest?
322
00:14:35,890 --> 00:14:37,150
We're giving you
an opportunity
323
00:14:37,150 --> 00:14:39,280
to come in voluntarily.
324
00:14:39,290 --> 00:14:40,290
But if not...
325
00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,990
I guess so.
326
00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,210
We've got a credit card
receipt that puts you
327
00:14:55,210 --> 00:14:57,560
in a cafรฉ a few blocks
from the crime scene
328
00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,960
a half hour before Kaitlyn
was killed.
329
00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:02,440
And Kaitlyn just happened to
google the address of that cafรฉ
330
00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,220
a couple hours before
she was killed.
331
00:15:04,220 --> 00:15:05,960
And we got surveillance video
from a flower shop
332
00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,660
down the block that picked you
up after you left the cafรฉ.
333
00:15:08,660 --> 00:15:11,140
It shows a man who
looks a lot like you
334
00:15:11,140 --> 00:15:12,970
grabbing Kaitlyn by the arm
and pushing her
335
00:15:12,970 --> 00:15:14,450
in the direction
of the crime scene.
336
00:15:14,450 --> 00:15:16,710
And you told us that
you didn't talk to Kaitlyn
337
00:15:16,710 --> 00:15:17,980
the day that she was murdered.
338
00:15:17,980 --> 00:15:20,150
Isn't that right?
- Mm-hmm, yeah. Yeah.
339
00:15:20,150 --> 00:15:22,680
You lied about your alibi,
too, didn't you?
340
00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,160
Said you were
at a movie premiere?
341
00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,810
No, I was--
342
00:15:25,810 --> 00:15:27,680
I was at the premiere.
343
00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:28,810
Really.
344
00:15:28,810 --> 00:15:30,600
Well, the time stamp
on the bill here
345
00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,120
says that you paid six minutes
after the movie started.
346
00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,770
So help me out here.
- Correct.
347
00:15:34,780 --> 00:15:36,990
I had coffee with my daughter,
and then I went to the movie.
348
00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,430
I got there late.
- Hmm.
349
00:15:46,050 --> 00:15:49,490
Here's me and Michelle
at the theater.
350
00:15:49,490 --> 00:15:51,920
That corroborates
my client's alibi.
351
00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,400
The theater is, like, 15
minutes from the crime scene.
352
00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,880
He could have killed Kaitlyn
and gotten back to the theater
353
00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,150
before the movie was over.
354
00:15:58,150 --> 00:15:59,580
Still, I'm confused.
355
00:15:59,580 --> 00:16:01,500
Didn't the ME tell you
the DNA on the murder weapon
356
00:16:01,500 --> 00:16:04,630
didn't come from anyone
in Kaitlyn's family?
357
00:16:04,630 --> 00:16:08,030
The ME said that
the killer's DNA profile
358
00:16:08,030 --> 00:16:10,680
didn't share
any genetic similarities
359
00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,250
with the victim.
360
00:16:12,250 --> 00:16:14,120
He's not Kaitlyn's
biological father?
361
00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,860
According to
family court records,
362
00:16:15,860 --> 00:16:19,690
Ron adopted Kaitlyn
after he married Michelle
363
00:16:19,690 --> 00:16:21,910
about ten years ago.
364
00:16:21,910 --> 00:16:24,520
Can I go home now?
365
00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,040
No.
366
00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,570
We have a few more questions.
367
00:16:27,570 --> 00:16:29,700
Hold him while you get
a warrant for his DNA.
368
00:16:29,700 --> 00:16:32,050
If it matches the necktie,
charge him with murder.
369
00:16:40,620 --> 00:16:43,060
Calling docket
ending in 5912,
370
00:16:43,060 --> 00:16:45,110
People v. Ronald Lawson,
371
00:16:45,110 --> 00:16:48,110
charging murder
in the second degree.
372
00:16:48,110 --> 00:16:49,200
How do you plead, sir?
373
00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,070
My client pleads not guilty.
374
00:16:51,070 --> 00:16:52,810
I'll hear the People on bail.
375
00:16:52,810 --> 00:16:55,590
The victim in this case
is the defendant's daughter.
376
00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,550
The evidence shows
that Mr. Lawson
377
00:16:57,550 --> 00:17:01,560
pushed her into a dumpster,
causing a severe head wound.
378
00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,950
Then, as she lay bleeding
on the pavement,
379
00:17:03,950 --> 00:17:06,260
he strangled her
with his necktie.
380
00:17:06,260 --> 00:17:09,300
We have video
and credit card statement
381
00:17:09,310 --> 00:17:11,090
putting him
near the crime scene.
382
00:17:11,090 --> 00:17:13,180
His DNA is on the weapon.
383
00:17:13,180 --> 00:17:15,750
We'd submit that he's a danger
to the community
384
00:17:15,750 --> 00:17:18,100
and a flight risk.
People request remand.
385
00:17:18,100 --> 00:17:20,750
The only thing worse than
losing your child, Your Honor,
386
00:17:20,750 --> 00:17:22,800
is losing your child
and then being falsely
387
00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,320
accused of killing her.
388
00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,840
The People have no case,
no motive, no eyewitnesses.
389
00:17:27,850 --> 00:17:30,980
My client is a respected
member of his community.
390
00:17:30,980 --> 00:17:33,280
My client's wife,
Michelle Burns,
391
00:17:33,290 --> 00:17:34,890
who is also
the victim's mother,
392
00:17:34,900 --> 00:17:37,900
has signed an affidavit
affirming that
393
00:17:37,900 --> 00:17:40,550
they were at a movie premiere
at the time of the murder.
394
00:17:40,550 --> 00:17:41,950
It was a three-hour film.
395
00:17:41,950 --> 00:17:44,510
He had more than enough time
to kill his daughter
396
00:17:44,510 --> 00:17:46,250
and saunter back
into the theater
397
00:17:46,260 --> 00:17:48,300
to enjoy his wife's movie.
398
00:17:50,650 --> 00:17:52,830
The bail is set
at 20 million.
399
00:17:55,790 --> 00:17:57,050
Don't worry, I got you.
400
00:17:57,050 --> 00:17:58,220
Okay?
401
00:18:04,490 --> 00:18:07,190
The victim's mother
posted bail for the killer?
402
00:18:07,190 --> 00:18:08,840
It was a first
for me as well.
403
00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,280
She also doubled down on her
husband's so-called alibi.
404
00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,590
She obviously believes
in Lawson's innocence.
405
00:18:14,590 --> 00:18:16,070
Are we sure we got
the right guy?
406
00:18:16,070 --> 00:18:17,810
Yeah, evidence is strong.
407
00:18:17,810 --> 00:18:19,110
What about motive?
408
00:18:19,110 --> 00:18:20,640
Why would Lawson
kill his own child?
409
00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,330
That is the one
missing piece.
410
00:18:23,340 --> 00:18:25,420
Have we done a deep dive
into their texts, emails?
411
00:18:25,420 --> 00:18:27,730
Well, I just finished,
actually,
412
00:18:27,730 --> 00:18:29,560
and, uh, I think
we have the answer.
413
00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,860
Kaitlyn made a video,
was supposed to go live
414
00:18:31,870 --> 00:18:33,780
the day she was killed.
415
00:18:33,780 --> 00:18:35,040
It's horrific.
416
00:18:39,050 --> 00:18:43,440
My father, Ron Lawson...
417
00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,840
sexually abused me.
418
00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:50,840
It started when I was 14,
and he's still doing it.
419
00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,500
I know it sounds weird,
but, uh,
420
00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:56,980
at first, it made me
feel special.
421
00:18:56,980 --> 00:19:00,330
I actually thought
I was in love with him.
422
00:19:00,330 --> 00:19:03,510
But recently, I--
I started to realize
423
00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:09,340
how horrible and abusive
it actually is.
424
00:19:09,340 --> 00:19:10,990
So...
425
00:19:13,470 --> 00:19:16,210
I told him to stop.
426
00:19:16,210 --> 00:19:19,040
He wouldn't.
427
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,350
So, um, I told my mother.
428
00:19:22,350 --> 00:19:26,790
But she wasn't--
she wasn't able to help.
429
00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:34,230
That's why
I'm making this video,
430
00:19:34,230 --> 00:19:37,580
to tell the world my truth.
431
00:19:37,580 --> 00:19:39,760
The defendant
killed Kaitlyn Lawson
432
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,540
because he was afraid
of exposure.
433
00:19:41,540 --> 00:19:43,810
He didn't want the world
to know
434
00:19:43,810 --> 00:19:48,420
his disgusting,
perverted secret.
435
00:19:48,420 --> 00:19:52,160
The evidence will show that
he invited her to a cafรฉ,
436
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,560
where he tried to talk her out
of posting the video.
437
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,690
When she refused,
he grabbed her by the arm
438
00:19:57,690 --> 00:19:59,740
and dragged her
behind a flower shop.
439
00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:03,090
He shoved her face-first
into a dumpster,
440
00:20:03,090 --> 00:20:08,960
and then he used his necktie to
strangle the life out of her.
441
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,580
Ron Lawson thought
by killing Kaitlyn,
442
00:20:13,580 --> 00:20:16,840
his secret would be safe,
but...
443
00:20:19,060 --> 00:20:23,370
But now we all know
what Kaitlyn knew.
444
00:20:23,370 --> 00:20:25,590
The defendant is a pedophile.
445
00:20:25,590 --> 00:20:28,550
He is also a killer.
446
00:20:28,550 --> 00:20:33,770
And he must answer to that.
447
00:20:33,770 --> 00:20:36,030
We're going to take
a brief recess.
448
00:20:36,030 --> 00:20:38,160
I'll see you all back here
in 20 minutes.
449
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,270
Get back! Get back!
450
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:54,310
Stay--
451
00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:55,360
No, no, no, no!
452
00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:57,230
Back!
453
00:20:57,230 --> 00:20:59,060
Hey. Ron, put the gun down!
454
00:20:59,060 --> 00:21:01,190
Put it down!
455
00:21:01,190 --> 00:21:03,800
Do not do anything stupid.
456
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,410
Put it down.
457
00:21:08,810 --> 00:21:10,280
No, no, no!
458
00:21:24,430 --> 00:21:26,130
- That was...
- Yeah.
459
00:21:26,130 --> 00:21:27,610
I don't even know
how to process it.
460
00:21:27,610 --> 00:21:29,000
Everybody okay?
461
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,180
I'm just glad
no one else was hurt.
462
00:21:36,750 --> 00:21:39,700
Where do we go from here?
463
00:21:39,710 --> 00:21:41,230
I presume you're
gonna file a motion
464
00:21:41,230 --> 00:21:42,580
to dismiss the charges?
465
00:21:42,580 --> 00:21:44,010
Yeah, we'll have to.
466
00:21:44,010 --> 00:21:46,410
Well, bastard got off easy,
if you ask me.
467
00:21:46,410 --> 00:21:48,150
Now nobody gets
held accountable.
468
00:21:48,150 --> 00:21:52,110
Maybe we should
look into the mother.
469
00:21:52,110 --> 00:21:54,020
Well, unfortunately,
posting bail
470
00:21:54,020 --> 00:21:55,680
for your abusive husband
isn't a crime.
471
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,160
She didn't just post bail.
472
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,070
She was aware that
her daughter was being abused,
473
00:21:59,070 --> 00:22:00,200
and she did nothing
to protect her.
474
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,810
She just let it happen.
475
00:22:01,810 --> 00:22:04,340
Hard to imagine.
476
00:22:04,340 --> 00:22:06,430
Is there a reason she
just looked the other way?
477
00:22:06,430 --> 00:22:08,170
Oh, no idea.
478
00:22:08,170 --> 00:22:09,910
Makes no sense to me.
479
00:22:09,910 --> 00:22:13,090
Her movies are all
about female empowerment
480
00:22:13,090 --> 00:22:14,650
and gender equality.
481
00:22:14,650 --> 00:22:15,870
So what do you wanna do?
482
00:22:15,870 --> 00:22:17,660
I wanna charge her
with endangering
483
00:22:17,660 --> 00:22:19,140
the welfare of a child.
484
00:22:19,140 --> 00:22:21,140
Can we prove Michelle
had knowledge of the abuse?
485
00:22:21,140 --> 00:22:22,750
We have Kaitlyn's video.
486
00:22:22,750 --> 00:22:25,010
Maybe.
487
00:22:25,010 --> 00:22:26,400
If we offer it for the truth,
488
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,490
it'll likely be excluded
as hearsay.
489
00:22:29,490 --> 00:22:31,060
But I'm with you, Nolan.
490
00:22:32,540 --> 00:22:35,020
Michelle Burns had a duty
to protect her child,
491
00:22:35,020 --> 00:22:37,240
and she didn't,
and now the girl's dead, so.
492
00:22:39,550 --> 00:22:40,980
Talk to Brady.
493
00:22:40,980 --> 00:22:42,900
Maybe she can figure out a way
to get Michelle to admit
494
00:22:42,900 --> 00:22:44,160
she knew what was going on
495
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,290
between her husband
and Kaitlyn.
496
00:22:49,860 --> 00:22:51,040
- Michelle.
- Oh.
497
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,430
- Hi.
- Hi.
498
00:22:52,430 --> 00:22:54,260
Thanks so much for coming in.
499
00:22:54,260 --> 00:22:56,870
Do you want a coffee
or water or something?
500
00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:59,090
No. No, thank you.
501
00:22:59,090 --> 00:23:02,480
Well, I can't imagine
what you're going through.
502
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,700
Yeah, it's, uh--
503
00:23:04,700 --> 00:23:07,530
it's been a long few days.
504
00:23:07,530 --> 00:23:09,140
I'm really very sorry,
but I won't
505
00:23:09,140 --> 00:23:10,530
take up much of your time.
506
00:23:10,540 --> 00:23:13,580
I just--I just need to
tie up a few loose ends.
507
00:23:16,590 --> 00:23:17,590
Have a seat.
508
00:23:21,980 --> 00:23:25,550
Some of Kaitlyn's
personal effects.
509
00:23:25,550 --> 00:23:30,080
I thought they might be
of some sentimental value.
510
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,300
You can take them if you want.
511
00:23:33,300 --> 00:23:35,170
I just need you
to sign that form.
512
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,960
I have a lot of respect
for your work.
513
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,440
I think your movies
are very powerful,
514
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,880
and they remind me
of Alice Munro.
515
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:55,270
I know she's a novelist,
but, um...
516
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,450
I really admire
her work as well.
517
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,670
Yeah, you two have
a lot in common.
518
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,030
I mean, you're both feminists
that wanted to raise
519
00:24:07,030 --> 00:24:10,250
strong, opinionated daughters,
and--
520
00:24:10,250 --> 00:24:12,200
And both stayed with men
521
00:24:12,210 --> 00:24:14,470
even after we knew
about their failings?
522
00:24:16,430 --> 00:24:19,340
Well, yeah, that's what
I was gonna say.
523
00:24:19,340 --> 00:24:20,610
I know.
524
00:24:23,260 --> 00:24:25,350
I'm not here to judge,
Michelle, really.
525
00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:29,310
Honestly, I'm just trying
to tie up some loose ends.
526
00:24:29,310 --> 00:24:31,750
But now that you mention it,
actually, I'm--
527
00:24:31,750 --> 00:24:33,490
I must say, I'm curious.
528
00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:37,360
About what?
529
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,190
Well, you're a brilliant
and talented woman,
530
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:45,980
a powerful woman.
531
00:24:45,980 --> 00:24:49,500
I--I--I just don't
see how you could
532
00:24:49,500 --> 00:24:52,290
sit there and let that happen.
533
00:24:54,550 --> 00:24:58,470
I suppose I felt
the same way Alice did.
534
00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:59,990
You know, I love them both
very much,
535
00:24:59,990 --> 00:25:04,170
and I suppose I decided
that it was their business,
536
00:25:04,170 --> 00:25:07,000
and it wasn't my place
to get involved.
537
00:25:09,260 --> 00:25:10,700
Not your place?
538
00:25:10,700 --> 00:25:14,620
Well, I know
on some level, yes.
539
00:25:14,620 --> 00:25:17,400
I mean, if you eliminate
patriarchal norms
540
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,970
and expectations, why should I
be expected to dismiss
541
00:25:20,970 --> 00:25:24,060
my own wants and desires,
542
00:25:24,060 --> 00:25:26,020
or even worse,
dismiss those wants
543
00:25:26,020 --> 00:25:28,280
and desires for my child?
544
00:25:30,410 --> 00:25:33,680
So you knew about
the video Kaitlyn made?
545
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,200
Yes.
546
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,940
And what about your husband?
Did he know?
547
00:25:38,940 --> 00:25:41,030
Yes, I--I told him.
548
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,440
Well.
549
00:25:53,790 --> 00:25:57,570
Michelle, I have to tell you,
you make me sick.
550
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,140
- What?
- Get up.
551
00:26:02,660 --> 00:26:04,490
- What the hell are you doing?
- Stand up.
552
00:26:04,490 --> 00:26:06,880
Put your hands
behind your back.
553
00:26:08,020 --> 00:26:09,450
You're under arrest.
554
00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:14,590
She told her husband
about the video?
555
00:26:14,590 --> 00:26:16,020
That Kaitlyn was
planning to expose her?
556
00:26:16,030 --> 00:26:17,550
Sure did.
557
00:26:17,550 --> 00:26:19,290
She might as well have
handed him a loaded gun.
558
00:26:19,290 --> 00:26:22,940
Ask me, this is
more than child endangerment.
559
00:26:22,950 --> 00:26:25,080
You want me to charge her
with manslaughter?
560
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,430
Man two.
561
00:26:26,430 --> 00:26:28,690
Michelle Burns had a duty
to protect her child,
562
00:26:28,690 --> 00:26:31,170
and her reckless actions
and inactions
563
00:26:31,170 --> 00:26:33,520
directly led
to her daughter's death.
564
00:26:37,700 --> 00:26:39,960
Sam.
565
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,660
- Hi.
- Hey, how are you?
566
00:26:41,660 --> 00:26:43,490
I'm good.
567
00:26:43,490 --> 00:26:45,360
You represent Michelle Burns?
568
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:47,320
I wish I wasn't.
569
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,930
I can't believe you're
actually prosecuting her.
570
00:26:49,930 --> 00:26:51,150
She's a victim.
571
00:26:51,150 --> 00:26:52,670
Her daughter was murdered.
572
00:26:52,670 --> 00:26:54,280
Yeah, I get it.
573
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,940
But she had a duty, a legal
duty to protect her daughter.
574
00:26:57,940 --> 00:26:59,810
She didn't. So.
575
00:26:59,810 --> 00:27:01,550
Well, you may be right,
576
00:27:01,550 --> 00:27:04,070
but it's more complicated
than that.
577
00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:06,070
What are you talking about?
578
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,640
Kaitlyn wasn't the only woman
Ron Lawson abused.
579
00:27:16,780 --> 00:27:19,130
I'm requesting the court's
permission to allow
580
00:27:19,130 --> 00:27:20,920
an expert witness at trial--
581
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,180
a psychologist who can testify
to my client's state of mind
582
00:27:24,180 --> 00:27:27,140
as a victim of physical
and sexual abuse.
583
00:27:27,140 --> 00:27:29,140
How is that relevant
to this case?
584
00:27:29,140 --> 00:27:30,490
Mr. Price has a point.
585
00:27:30,490 --> 00:27:32,010
What does
a psychologist's opinion
586
00:27:32,010 --> 00:27:33,580
have to do with this matter?
587
00:27:33,580 --> 00:27:35,930
Well, the People are required
to prove that my client
588
00:27:35,930 --> 00:27:37,710
ignored an unjustifiable risk
589
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,630
that someone's death
would occur.
590
00:27:39,630 --> 00:27:43,070
I'd like to tell the jury
why she failed to act.
591
00:27:43,070 --> 00:27:44,680
Context is important.
592
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,680
It cuts to the very core
of our defense.
593
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,070
The defendant's reasons
have no legal significance.
594
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,340
This is just a veiled attempt
595
00:27:51,340 --> 00:27:53,340
to elicit sympathy
from the jury.
596
00:27:54,860 --> 00:27:57,340
I'll allow counsel
to conduct a voir dire
597
00:27:57,340 --> 00:27:59,080
outside of the presence
of the jury
598
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,130
to see what this witness
has to say.
599
00:28:01,130 --> 00:28:03,260
I'll issue my decision
afterwards.
600
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,050
Dr. Mankin, did you conduct
a forensic evaluation
601
00:28:11,050 --> 00:28:13,270
of the defendant?
- I did.
602
00:28:13,270 --> 00:28:15,360
She reported that
she was in a physically
603
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:17,150
and emotionally abusive
marriage.
604
00:28:17,150 --> 00:28:20,710
Did she describe specific
instances of violence?
605
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,630
A fractured eye socket,
a broken ankle, a concussion,
606
00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:28,290
and numerous bruises and cuts.
607
00:28:28,290 --> 00:28:30,720
Did she tell you
about her childhood?
608
00:28:30,730 --> 00:28:33,290
Do I have to sit here
and listen to this?
609
00:28:33,290 --> 00:28:35,120
Your lawyer asked
for this hearing.
610
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:36,730
Please control your client.
611
00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:43,130
Please answer the question.
612
00:28:43,130 --> 00:28:44,870
When she was nine years old,
613
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:47,000
Michelle was the victim
of sexual abuse
614
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,870
at the hands of an uncle.
615
00:28:48,870 --> 00:28:50,050
Did that surprise you?
616
00:28:50,050 --> 00:28:51,310
No.
617
00:28:51,310 --> 00:28:52,620
Children who are raised
in abusive homes
618
00:28:52,620 --> 00:28:55,180
are six times more
likely to find themselves
619
00:28:55,180 --> 00:28:57,750
in abusive relationships
as adults.
620
00:28:57,750 --> 00:28:58,970
Why is that?
621
00:28:58,970 --> 00:29:00,750
For women like Michelle,
622
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,500
abuse becomes
their definition of love.
623
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:06,800
Thank you.
624
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,760
Nothing further.
625
00:29:10,330 --> 00:29:12,420
Cross-examination?
626
00:29:12,420 --> 00:29:14,770
Did the defendant ever
report any of this abuse?
627
00:29:14,770 --> 00:29:16,810
When she was a child,
she told her parents,
628
00:29:16,810 --> 00:29:19,820
but they didn't believe her,
and that was shattering.
629
00:29:19,820 --> 00:29:22,430
It reinforced her sense
of powerlessness.
630
00:29:22,430 --> 00:29:25,780
While the defendant
may have been suffering,
631
00:29:25,780 --> 00:29:28,300
wasn't she still capable
of protecting her daughter?
632
00:29:28,300 --> 00:29:31,960
I believe Michelle suffers
from dissociative disorder.
633
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,480
Her survival depends
on her ability
634
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,920
to disengage emotionally.
635
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,490
As a result, she lost her
ability to recognize danger,
636
00:29:40,490 --> 00:29:43,670
along with her maternal
instincts of protection.
637
00:29:43,670 --> 00:29:46,150
You're not saying
she's legally insane, are you?
638
00:29:46,150 --> 00:29:48,110
No, I'm not saying that.
639
00:29:48,110 --> 00:29:49,980
Thank you. Nothing further.
640
00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:51,940
You are excused.
641
00:29:55,510 --> 00:30:00,470
While what Ms. Burns
is alleging is tragic,
642
00:30:00,470 --> 00:30:04,030
it is clearly not relevant
to this case.
643
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,910
And as such, the law requires
644
00:30:05,910 --> 00:30:08,820
that you deny
the defendant's motion.
645
00:30:08,820 --> 00:30:11,650
Respectfully,
the defense has the right
646
00:30:11,650 --> 00:30:13,780
to present a full
and complete picture
647
00:30:13,780 --> 00:30:16,130
of what happened--
more specifically,
648
00:30:16,130 --> 00:30:17,790
why this happened.
649
00:30:20,140 --> 00:30:23,270
I agree with Mr. Price.
650
00:30:23,270 --> 00:30:26,320
But Your Honor, as a woman,
how can you possibly--
651
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,620
Don't go there, Counsel.
652
00:30:27,620 --> 00:30:29,840
My decision is
based on the law.
653
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,720
And I find that
the defendant's state of mind
654
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,720
has no legal significance
in this case.
655
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,680
Therefore, the defendant's
motion is denied.
656
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,990
Dr. Mankin will not be
allowed in this trial.
657
00:30:42,990 --> 00:30:44,380
We're adjourned.
658
00:30:44,380 --> 00:30:45,990
I'll see you all here
tomorrow morning.
659
00:30:52,340 --> 00:30:53,910
I'm not sure about this.
660
00:30:53,910 --> 00:30:55,520
Sure about what?
661
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,520
Leaving this evidence out
or even prosecuting Michelle.
662
00:30:59,530 --> 00:31:01,960
She's a victim, Nolan.
663
00:31:09,670 --> 00:31:11,010
Hey.
664
00:31:11,020 --> 00:31:13,100
I've subpoenaed Michelle's
medical records.
665
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:15,370
They corroborate
the psychologist's testimony.
666
00:31:15,370 --> 00:31:17,500
In the last ten years,
Michelle was treated
667
00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:19,760
for a broken ankle,
fractured eye socket,
668
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,330
and a concussion.
669
00:31:21,330 --> 00:31:23,370
I also found a police report
from Westport, Connecticut,
670
00:31:23,380 --> 00:31:26,200
where Michelle and Ron
used to live.
671
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,210
Shows she called 911
to report domestic violence.
672
00:31:29,210 --> 00:31:31,120
Withdrew her complaint
a week later.
673
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,950
Well, there was also
a report from Cleveland,
674
00:31:33,950 --> 00:31:35,300
where Michelle grew up.
675
00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:37,520
Teacher suspected there
was abuse in the home.
676
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,040
I don't dispute that
the abuse happened
677
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,960
and that it's horrific.
678
00:31:45,530 --> 00:31:47,140
Jesus.
679
00:31:47,140 --> 00:31:49,970
It also certainly explains why
Michelle would stay with a man
680
00:31:49,970 --> 00:31:51,530
who was abusing her daughter.
681
00:31:51,530 --> 00:31:53,190
Yeah.
682
00:31:53,190 --> 00:31:55,410
But the fact remains,
Michelle Burns
683
00:31:55,410 --> 00:31:57,670
had an obligation
to protect her kid,
684
00:31:57,670 --> 00:31:59,320
and she did the exact opposite.
685
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,070
She wasn't capable
of helping.
686
00:32:02,070 --> 00:32:04,110
She was fighting
for her own survival.
687
00:32:04,110 --> 00:32:05,460
You're right about that,
688
00:32:05,460 --> 00:32:09,030
but she let her husband
abuse Kaitlyn for years.
689
00:32:09,030 --> 00:32:10,990
And if that weren't enough,
she told
690
00:32:10,990 --> 00:32:12,990
a violent, sexually
abusive man that
691
00:32:12,990 --> 00:32:14,640
he was about to be exposed
as a pedophile,
692
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,470
which directly led
to her child's death.
693
00:32:17,470 --> 00:32:21,560
She was more a perpetrator than
victim in this instance anyway.
694
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,570
What kind of precedent
would it be setting
695
00:32:24,570 --> 00:32:26,520
if we gave her a pass?
696
00:32:26,530 --> 00:32:29,010
Society demands that people
in positions of power
697
00:32:29,010 --> 00:32:30,530
protect those who have none.
698
00:32:30,530 --> 00:32:32,010
Parents are the ones
who hold that power.
699
00:32:32,010 --> 00:32:33,710
Yeah, I agree.
700
00:32:33,710 --> 00:32:35,840
But it doesn't mean that
we don't have an obligation
701
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,410
to protect Michelle too.
702
00:32:37,410 --> 00:32:40,190
She's an adult.
Kaitlyn was a kid, a teenager.
703
00:32:40,190 --> 00:32:42,450
In case of a tie,
Michelle loses.
704
00:32:42,450 --> 00:32:44,760
Sorry.
705
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,540
Move forward with the trial.
706
00:32:56,730 --> 00:32:59,340
Lieutenant Brady, did you
speak with the defendant?
707
00:32:59,340 --> 00:33:01,210
I did.
708
00:33:01,210 --> 00:33:05,170
And she told me she was aware
that her husband had been
709
00:33:05,170 --> 00:33:07,260
sexually abusing her daughter
and that the abuse
710
00:33:07,260 --> 00:33:08,780
had gone on for several years.
711
00:33:08,790 --> 00:33:11,870
And did the defendant
tell her husband that Kaitlyn
712
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,400
was going to expose him?
- She did.
713
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,360
And less than 24 hours later,
Kaitlyn was dead.
714
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,970
Thank you. Nothing further.
715
00:33:19,970 --> 00:33:21,450
Cross-examination?
716
00:33:24,410 --> 00:33:27,590
My client didn't kill anyone.
717
00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:28,670
Fair to say?
718
00:33:28,670 --> 00:33:31,020
Fair to say.
719
00:33:31,030 --> 00:33:33,240
In fact, my client
wasn't present
720
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,640
when Kaitlyn died, was she?
721
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,200
Objection, relevance?
722
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,380
Overruled. You may answer.
723
00:33:40,990 --> 00:33:42,640
I don't believe she was, no.
724
00:33:42,650 --> 00:33:45,600
The person who actually
did kill Kaitlyn,
725
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,130
Ron Lawson, shot himself.
726
00:33:47,130 --> 00:33:49,430
So he's gone.
727
00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:52,650
And now you and Mr. Price are
trying to compound this tragedy
728
00:33:52,660 --> 00:33:54,220
by blaming it on his wife.
729
00:33:54,220 --> 00:33:55,530
Objection, argumentative.
730
00:33:55,530 --> 00:33:57,620
Withdrawn.
731
00:33:57,620 --> 00:33:58,660
Nothing further.
732
00:34:04,190 --> 00:34:06,670
I love my daughter
very much.
733
00:34:07,970 --> 00:34:11,110
More than I can even--
734
00:34:17,290 --> 00:34:23,160
And I tried very hard
to protect her.
735
00:34:25,340 --> 00:34:28,120
I know it wasn't enough,
but I tried.
736
00:34:28,130 --> 00:34:31,910
Tell the jury
what you mean by that.
737
00:34:31,910 --> 00:34:38,090
I taught Kaitlyn to be
a strong, independent woman.
738
00:34:38,090 --> 00:34:41,400
I took her
to self-defense classes.
739
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,050
I--I helped her become
financially independent.
740
00:34:45,060 --> 00:34:49,280
I--I talked to her about
her sex, about her body.
741
00:34:51,450 --> 00:34:55,890
And when I
became aware of what
742
00:34:55,890 --> 00:35:02,420
was going on with Ron, I--
743
00:35:02,420 --> 00:35:07,770
I encouraged her to move out of
the house as soon as possible.
744
00:35:07,770 --> 00:35:09,730
But you were having
your own problems.
745
00:35:09,730 --> 00:35:10,950
Objection.
746
00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:12,130
Sustained.
747
00:35:12,130 --> 00:35:15,260
We've been
through this, Ms. Hogan.
748
00:35:15,260 --> 00:35:17,650
Your witness.
749
00:35:17,650 --> 00:35:20,050
Cross-examination?
750
00:35:20,050 --> 00:35:22,090
After your husband
was arrested
751
00:35:22,090 --> 00:35:24,220
for killing your daughter,
752
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:26,180
you posted his bail,
didn't you?
753
00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:31,710
- Yes.
- He was in custody.
754
00:35:31,710 --> 00:35:34,500
He was behind bars.
And you helped him get out?
755
00:35:36,890 --> 00:35:38,370
I did.
756
00:35:38,370 --> 00:35:43,720
You also helped him
create a false alibi?
757
00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:45,420
Yes.
758
00:35:45,420 --> 00:35:50,820
I know that this won't make
any sense, but I was afraid.
759
00:35:50,820 --> 00:35:52,380
And so I did what he said
760
00:35:52,380 --> 00:35:53,780
because that's the way
it's always been.
761
00:35:53,780 --> 00:35:55,950
Because if I disappointed him,
he became violent!
762
00:35:55,950 --> 00:35:58,480
- Your Honor.
- Next question.
763
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,610
You have made several very
successful films, haven't you?
764
00:36:02,610 --> 00:36:03,870
I suppose.
765
00:36:03,870 --> 00:36:06,220
One of your movies
is about a young woman
766
00:36:06,220 --> 00:36:08,220
who was abused
by a family member.
767
00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:10,050
Objection, relevance.
768
00:36:10,050 --> 00:36:11,230
Overruled.
769
00:36:11,230 --> 00:36:12,620
Please answer.
770
00:36:14,970 --> 00:36:17,320
It was an exploration
771
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,760
in a complicated
family relationship.
772
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,460
In that movie, the daughter
is hurt so badly,
773
00:36:23,460 --> 00:36:25,150
she dies, doesn't she?
774
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,370
Objection.
Where is he going with this?
775
00:36:27,380 --> 00:36:29,680
The People are required
to prove that the defendant
776
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,290
consciously disregarded a
substantial risk to her child,
777
00:36:32,290 --> 00:36:34,030
knowing that death
could result.
778
00:36:34,030 --> 00:36:36,470
I'm simply trying to establish
that the defendant was aware
779
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:38,950
of the risk involved in not
reporting her husband's abuse
780
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:41,390
because she made
a film about it.
781
00:36:41,390 --> 00:36:43,130
The objection is overruled.
782
00:36:43,130 --> 00:36:44,700
Please answer.
783
00:36:50,220 --> 00:36:52,830
In the film,
the daughter dies.
784
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:57,100
In your home, your husband's
abuse of your daughter
785
00:36:57,100 --> 00:37:00,320
went on for years, didn't it?
786
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,800
Unfortunately.
787
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,630
And you told your husband
that Kaitlyn
788
00:37:03,630 --> 00:37:05,500
was going to expose him,
didn't you?
789
00:37:05,500 --> 00:37:06,720
Yes.
790
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,720
And 24 hours later,
she was dead.
791
00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:13,250
Did I get that right?
- I--
792
00:37:13,250 --> 00:37:15,250
I made a mistake.
793
00:37:17,730 --> 00:37:20,860
I made a mistake.
794
00:37:20,860 --> 00:37:25,350
I wish I could do it
all over again,
795
00:37:25,350 --> 00:37:28,090
be a different person,
a stronger person.
796
00:37:28,090 --> 00:37:29,700
But I wasn't, and I didn't.
797
00:37:29,700 --> 00:37:31,920
And I have to live with that
for the rest of my life.
798
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,050
I'm afraid you do.
799
00:37:34,050 --> 00:37:36,010
I have nothing further.
800
00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:46,370
Nolan.
801
00:37:46,370 --> 00:37:48,850
What you did in there,
using her film
802
00:37:48,850 --> 00:37:49,930
against her in that way?
803
00:37:49,940 --> 00:37:51,070
That was fair game, Sam.
804
00:37:51,070 --> 00:37:53,330
No, no, that was legal.
805
00:37:53,330 --> 00:37:55,980
But it wasn't fair.
806
00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:57,640
I--
807
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,080
you're the one who always
says trials are supposed
808
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,770
to be a search for the truth.
809
00:38:01,770 --> 00:38:04,730
So please tell me how the hell
the jury is supposed to
810
00:38:04,730 --> 00:38:07,870
make a decision about Michelle,
about this case
811
00:38:07,870 --> 00:38:10,350
when they don't have
all the facts,
812
00:38:10,350 --> 00:38:12,780
when they don't actually know
the truth.
813
00:38:12,780 --> 00:38:17,530
The jury decides what is and
isn't true based on the facts,
814
00:38:17,530 --> 00:38:20,440
on the relevant facts.
815
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:25,360
I respect that you are
a man of principle,
816
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,020
but I have my principles too.
817
00:38:27,020 --> 00:38:31,590
Well, then we'll just
have to agree to disagree.
818
00:38:31,590 --> 00:38:32,630
No.
819
00:38:37,370 --> 00:38:39,720
Do you really think
that you know more
820
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:43,950
about domestic violence
than I do?
821
00:38:43,950 --> 00:38:47,380
I--I have counseled victims.
822
00:38:47,380 --> 00:38:49,340
I've volunteered at shelters.
823
00:38:49,340 --> 00:38:51,910
I studied the psychological
impact of trauma.
824
00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:55,610
And there's my sister, who died
at the hands of an abuser.
825
00:38:55,610 --> 00:38:59,400
So please don't tell me what
Michelle should have done
826
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,660
or what she was
legally required to do.
827
00:39:01,660 --> 00:39:03,880
She spent most of her life
being abused.
828
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,580
And the truth is,
Nolan, she wasn't
829
00:39:06,580 --> 00:39:09,450
capable of protecting herself,
let alone her daughter.
830
00:39:09,450 --> 00:39:12,710
And there is no punishment
in the world
831
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:14,370
that is going to change that.
832
00:39:17,410 --> 00:39:19,420
Now, if you don't
respect my opinion
833
00:39:19,420 --> 00:39:22,550
when it comes to this issue,
834
00:39:22,550 --> 00:39:26,030
then I don't know what the hell
I'm doing in this office.
835
00:39:30,780 --> 00:39:32,250
What do you mean,
you wanna cut a deal?
836
00:39:32,260 --> 00:39:33,600
We've been through this.
837
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,390
We agreed Michelle Burns
failed in her duty
838
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:38,130
to protect her child.
839
00:39:38,130 --> 00:39:39,390
I'm having second thoughts.
840
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,270
Sam has been pretty passionate
in her defense
841
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:48,050
of Michelle Burns, and...
842
00:39:48,050 --> 00:39:49,620
I'm starting to see
her point of view.
843
00:39:49,620 --> 00:39:52,800
I'm not so sure that sending
an abuse victim to prison
844
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,540
for 15 years is the right call.
845
00:39:55,540 --> 00:39:57,540
Neither am I.
846
00:39:57,540 --> 00:39:59,980
But I have to look
at the big picture.
847
00:39:59,980 --> 00:40:03,460
There are larger
societal implications here.
848
00:40:03,460 --> 00:40:05,980
You're right.
849
00:40:05,980 --> 00:40:09,470
But let's face it, Nick, Sam
knows more about these issues
850
00:40:09,470 --> 00:40:11,250
than we do.
851
00:40:11,250 --> 00:40:14,380
Maybe it's time for us
to start listening to her,
852
00:40:14,380 --> 00:40:18,430
instead of telling her
why she's wrong.
853
00:40:26,350 --> 00:40:28,830
Your Honor, the defendant
has agreed to plead guilty,
854
00:40:28,830 --> 00:40:30,700
and we have a sentencing
recommendation
855
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:32,490
for the court's consideration.
856
00:40:32,490 --> 00:40:33,660
I'll hear it.
857
00:40:33,660 --> 00:40:35,490
The defendant will admit
to so much
858
00:40:35,490 --> 00:40:37,490
of the complaint
that alleges endangering
859
00:40:37,490 --> 00:40:38,930
the welfare of a child,
860
00:40:38,930 --> 00:40:41,240
and she will serve
one year in jail,
861
00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:44,200
followed by three years
of post-release supervision.
862
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,850
Defense?
863
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,680
We have agreed to the terms.
864
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,470
Okay, Ms. Burns, I will
accept your change of plea
865
00:40:53,470 --> 00:40:56,250
and sentence you
to one year in jail.
866
00:40:56,250 --> 00:40:57,860
Court is adjourned.
867
00:41:10,180 --> 00:41:14,230
Thank you for hearing me.
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