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Next on "American Masters" --
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Dorothea Lange held the mirror up to America,
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in all its heartache and glory.
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MAN: It's probably the most
recognized photograph
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in American history.
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WOMAN: It was published
all over the country,
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in newspapers, magazines,
used over and over again.
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MAN: Who were these folks
and where did they come from?
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WOMAN: People were not
accustomed
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to seeing beautifully composed
photographs of people
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who were working
in the dirt.
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What does it feel like?
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What actually is
the human condition?
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WOMAN: Dorothea had guts,
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and she had curiosity.
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She challenges us all to recognize ourselves
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through timeless scenes from the lives of real Americans.
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¶ Scenes of youth
and of beauty ¶
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¶ Scenes of hardships
and strife ¶
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¶ Scenes of wealth
and of plenty... ¶
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MAN: She was the photographer
in the country who was concerned
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with larger social ramifications
of images.
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¶ But the saddest of all ¶
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¶ Is a picture
from life's other side ¶
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LANGE: I know people
will be thinking
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that they're going to see
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documentary photography,
but this cannot be.
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I want to extract
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the universality,
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not the circumstance.
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WOMAN: Lange's photographs
speak to us today
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not just because they're
about our past,
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but also because they speak
to our present.
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MAN: She was a completely
independent spirt.
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WOMAN: She was busy trying
to change the world.
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WOMAN #2: Lange's method to
combat the racism that she saw
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was to create
these ennobling portraits.
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These are people who seem
like they are timeless
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and Dorothea was always
interested in capturing
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a sense of timelessness.
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LANGE: When I was a child,
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I learned to be unseen.
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I have an invisible coat
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that covers me,
and that has stayed with me
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all my working life.
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She stood at the crossroads of American history
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and took its picture.
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LANGE: The camera's
a powerful instrument
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for saying to the world,
"This is the way it is.
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Look at it!
Look at it!"
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"Dorothea Lange: Grab a Hunk of Lightning."
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Next on "American Masters."
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Major funding for
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"Dorothea Lange: Grab a Hunk of Lightning"
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provided by the National Endowment for the Humanities.
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Exploring the human endeavor.
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And by Cal Humanities.
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And by an award
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from the National Endowment for the Arts.
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Art works.
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"American Masters" is supported by
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the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
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And...
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And by contributions to your PBS station
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from viewers like you.
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When I said I am trying
to get lost again,
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I really expressed a very
critical point of departure,
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that frame of mind that you need
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to make fine pictures
of a very wonderful subject.
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You cannot do it by not
being lost yourself.
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I am trying to get lost again.
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When you're working well,
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it is, first of all,
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a process of getting lost.
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So that you live
for maybe two, three hours
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as completely as possible
a visual experience.
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The cabin became
our special place
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to be together and be
with the grandchildren there.
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They thought of it as
a place where they were free.
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DYANNA TAYLOR: I remember.
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My grandmother and I were together at our family cabin,
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and limping along the beach, she was photographing.
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I had a handful of shells and stones
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and thrust them out toward her, asking her to look.
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She said, "I see them, but do you see them?"
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I said, "Yes, I see them."
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Then she said sternly,
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"But do you see them?"
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and snapped the photo.
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I looked back at my palm, and from then on
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apprehended the world differently.
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Toward the very end of my grandmother's life,
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an unprecedented honor came to he
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an invitation to prepare a solo exhibition
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for the Museum of Modern Art in New York.
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WOMAN: This is really
the pinnacle of achievement.e.
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This is not just a matter of
choosing which photographs
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of a life's work
of tens of thousands,
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but it's also a matter
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of figuring out
which photographs
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should talk to other
photographs.
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WOMAN: Lange's photographs
speak to us today
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not just because they're
about our past
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but also because they speak
to our present.
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LANGE: Your file of negatives
is your biography.
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There it is.
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I think we have a card
on this.
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I think I've seen that
on here.
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MAN: I was a part-time student
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at the San Francisco
Art Institute.
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LANGE: "Next time,
try the train."
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This is about
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35...
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MAN: She looked to me to be
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the photographer in the country
who was concerned
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with the larger social
implications,
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ramifications of images.
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We hit it off.
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I felt very blessed
to be helping her accomplish
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what she wanted
to accomplish.
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Uh, this one you said was during
the Depression, when...
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During the Depression, yeah.
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CONRAD: She was committed
to a deadline that involved her
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looking over her entire life
as a photographer.
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Probably never anybody
asked me...
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CONRAD: We started
by pulling out
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boxes
and boxes of negatives.
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Some of them got thrown out
on the spot.
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It isn't good enough.
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This goes in that early Utah.
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CONRAD: It was also
an opportunity
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to put her affairs in order,
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and they were in
considerable disorder.
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LANGE: I can't just
exactly say
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why I feel, at this point,
with that show coming on,
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that I know that I have to look
this stuff over that I've done.
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In 1902, when Dorothea was 7,
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she contracted polio.
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She was relatively lucky, but did end up
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with a disability.
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Afraid that her misshapen leg and foot
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would later make her unmarriageable,
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her mother urged her to disguise her limp,
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saying, "Walk as well as you can."
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Dorothea grew up in Hoboken, New Jersey.
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Her father had left the family.
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Probably some
financial misfortune,
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but there could be
another reason.
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We know so little because
she never spoke of it.
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Little brother Martin, Dorothea, and their mother
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all moved in with her German immigrant grandmother.
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Dorothea remembered being mesmerized by clothes
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fluttering on the line.
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She looked out at them and said,
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"These are beautiful."
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And her grandmother said to her,
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"To you, everything is beautiful."
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I remember her showing me
one time
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what a wonderful thing
was an orange.
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Showing me.
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Making sure
that I understood it.
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STEIN: As a teenager,
she played hookie a lot.
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And I really have a sense
that she probably
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walked around New York
and saw all sorts of things,
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including, perhaps,
exhibitions.
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LANGE: I decided,
almost on a certain day,
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well, I was going to be
a photographer.
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This was before I even
owned a camera.
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My grandmother was very independent.
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She often walked the length of Manhattan
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and found herself drawn
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to the gallery of Alfred Stieglitz,
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where the work of photographer Paul Strand
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was also shown.
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STEIN: She apprenticed
to Arnold Genthe,
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who was committed to combining
the practice of photography
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with something considered
higher at the time,
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and that is fine art.
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LANGE: A curious thing,
isn't it,
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how a person will pick
a profession out of the blue.
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But that's just what
I wanted to be.
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WOMAN: She was a very
lovely young woman,
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but she knew that she walked
with a limp.
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WOMAN: Dorothea's mother
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was not encouraging of Dorothea
being a photographer.
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So it wasn't long before
Dorothea came up with a plan
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to leave town
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with her friend "Fronsie."
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They decided they were going
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to go around the world.
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Dorothea had guts
and she had curiosity.
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And she just decided
to go.
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She and Fronsie
headed west.
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They got as far
as San Francisco,
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and the first day they
were there,
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Fronsie was carrying the money,
and she was pickpocketed.
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And they lost
all their money.
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So they were stuck
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in San Francisco.
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Dorothea just went out
and the very next day,
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she had a job at Marsh's,
which was like a drugstore
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which had a photo-finishing
counter in the back.
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STEIN: Where she's taking in
people's film,
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perhaps helping
with processing it.
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Maybe just working
the counter.
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PARTRIDGE: While she was working
at the photo counter,
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she met Roi Partridge,
my grandfather,
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went home and said to his wife,
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Imogen Cunningham,
another photographer...
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"By Jove, I met the most
wonderful woman today!
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We must have her home
for dinner."
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And they did.
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She hadn't been here
for three, four weeks.
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PARTRIDGE: They just
tucked Dorothea
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into their San Francisco
Bohemian life.
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MAN: It was a city
that was beautiful
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because it had been rebuilt
after the 1906 earthquake.
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But it was also a city with
a working-class history
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that was there
below the surface.
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Along the waterfront,
you had the dives
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and the boarding houses
where the Longshoremen lived
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and where the bindlestiffs
crashed
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in the bars at night.
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Still out of money,
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Dorothea sensed an opportunity in this vibrant city.
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With the support of her newfound artist friends,
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she convinced a backer
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to help her open a portrait studio.
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It was 1919,
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and she was 24.
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WOMAN: Upstairs, she had
a sitting area
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where she would photograph
her clients.
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MAN: San Francisco
was a perfect place
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for a portrait
photographer.
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You had the wealthy there
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in need of family portraits
and corporate portraits,
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portraits of grandma
and grandpa.
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You had wealthy patrons.
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PARTRIDGE: Downstairs, she had
a darkroom where she developed
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the photographs
she took of them.
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When Dorothea was finished
in the darkroom every day,
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she would go upstairs
back to the sitting room
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and she would fire up
this old Russian samovar
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and make a huge pot of tea.
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And then the Bohemians
would gather.
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Clearly, she already had
that kind of charisma
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that we would see later
in her life.
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Her studio became something of an evening salon,
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where friends relaxed on her red velvet sofa,
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later dubbed "the matrimonial bureau"
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because of the many proposals made there.
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LANGE: I was a young woman who
had a portrait studio.
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I did all the work myself.
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It was a successful studio,
but I worked 18 hours,
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20 hours, every day.
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I really worked.
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I was determined that I could
make that go, and I did.
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Very old portraits.
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Old portrait.
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These go way, way back.
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Why I kept these,
I don't know.
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This goes up
in the early portraits.
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CONRAD: She worked,
from the outset,
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with groupings
of photographs.
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Take a whole bunch
of pictures
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and put them on the wall
and look at them and say,
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"yes, no, yes, no."
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Now, these start
at the other end
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because I want
to mix things --
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I don't want
so much Egypt.
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CONRAD: Working as
a photographer,
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I had not participated
in that process before,
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and I found it
very interesting.
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LANGE: Put it there,
near it.
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CONRAD: And she would go through
a quick edit process,
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and pictures came down
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and put up another bunch
of pictures.
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And you step back 15 feet
and you reflect.
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By early 1920, Dorothea's studio was flourishing,
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gaining a reputation for naturalistic portraiture
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and as the place
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for San Francisco artists to gather.
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WOMAN: One day she was working
in the darkroom
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and she heard a very distinct
"tap, tap, tap" overhead.
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But by the time she
got upstairs,
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whoever's feet that had been,
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they were no longer there.
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She asked Roi Partridge,
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"Who is it who would be making
that "tap, tap, tap"?
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And he said, "Oh,
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that would be Maynard Dixon --
he wears cowboy boots."
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And Dorothea was
intrigued.
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The next time she was down
in her darkroom working
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and she heard the
"tap, tap, tap" of the boots,
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she went upstairs
and met Maynard,
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who was dressed in a long cape,
and he carried a cane
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and he had his cowboy boots.
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She was attracted and
a little bit afraid of him.
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He was more than 20 years
her senior.
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He was an exquisite painter.
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Very established
as an artist.
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Dorothea would discover her muse in Maynard.
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Despite their difference in age,
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the attraction was undeniable,
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and within a year, they were married.
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She told a reporter,
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"My marriage with Mr. Dixon
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will not interfere with my work,
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as I shall continue in my profession."
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He opened her eyes to a way of
living by your own values,
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living with what is important
to a visual life.
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LANGE: He had the finest studio
of all the studios
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in Montgomery Street.
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And he had it for years
and years.
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And I had a studio
at 716.
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And there were big ship's
timbers over the door.
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WOMAN: She was able
to support herself,
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and then sometimes Maynard
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when he wasn't bringing in
a check.
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She very much wanted to see him
pursue his own art
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and not become a slave
to advertising arts.
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MAN: Maynard had to make
a living,
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and so a lot of his work
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was done to please
corporate clients.
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But more than anything, I think
he just wanted to be out
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in the landscape,
preferably New Mexico,
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painting colored cliffs.
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WOMAN: Maynard got her out
into the Southwest.
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He loved to paint
in the Southwest.
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He loved that open sky
and the vista that was available
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for him there.
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So that gave her
a whole part of the world
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she had never seen before.
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STEIN: She was exploring,
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working outside the studio.
336
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There's a certain kind
of exotic fascination.
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These are people who seem
like they are timeless
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and Dorothea was always
interested in capturing
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a sense of timelessness.
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I think she's interested in how
they resist modern culture.
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LANGE: The Kiva. K-i-v-a.
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How about one of just them?
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Steps going up.
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Big steps.
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Then there's two tin cans
down there.
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It's the difference between
a documentary photographer.
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00:20:02,101 --> 00:20:04,402
Right there,
if you want to define it.
348
00:20:04,404 --> 00:20:07,538
The man with a certain
kind of training
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will never remove
those two cans,
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and the other man must.
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00:20:12,245 --> 00:20:14,345
See, Richard,
what I'm talking about?
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See the magnificent scale
of those steps?
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It really is a thing
of very great proportion.
354
00:20:21,020 --> 00:20:24,288
And these wretched
little cans down here,
355
00:20:24,290 --> 00:20:27,425
well, you accept it.
356
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If muses can be inanimate,
357
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Dorothea's muse was the camera.
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But she was to discover the muse
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00:20:45,545 --> 00:20:47,712
in the great loves of her life --
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00:20:47,714 --> 00:20:50,681
two radically different men.
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My grandfather, Paul Taylor,
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born the same year as Dorothea, in 1895,
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later would challenge and inspire here.
364
00:21:04,464 --> 00:21:08,132
MAN: When one was in
the presence of Paul Taylor,
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00:21:08,134 --> 00:21:09,433
he was thoughtful.
366
00:21:09,435 --> 00:21:12,136
He was very deliberate
and disciplined.
367
00:21:12,138 --> 00:21:17,174
He saw injustice, and he sought
to correct it
368
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using the tools he had
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and was always reaching out
to other people.
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This is a powerful individual,
and it wasn't just a resumé,
371
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it was a life.
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Moved to enlist in World War I,
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my grandfather became a Marine captain
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and was stationed in France.
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To my surprise, I discovered he brought with him
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a small, folding Kodak camera
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00:21:44,771 --> 00:21:47,705
to document what could not be described in words.
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00:21:47,707 --> 00:21:49,240
He brought back images
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of the tragic battle of Belleau Wood,
380
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during which his battalion suffered heavy losses
381
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and he was severely gassed.
382
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Overcoming his injuries, he became a professor
383
00:22:01,020 --> 00:22:03,788
in labor economics at the University of California,
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00:22:03,790 --> 00:22:08,125
married and began a family with his young bride Katharine.
385
00:22:08,127 --> 00:22:12,296
He wasn't to meet the photographer Dorothea Lange
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for another 12 years.
387
00:22:14,167 --> 00:22:19,470
Meanwhile, by 1925, Dorothea and Maynard's marriage,
388
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the envy of many San Francisco artists,
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00:22:22,508 --> 00:22:24,975
became for Dorothea a contradiction.
390
00:22:24,977 --> 00:22:26,477
Creatively stimulating,
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00:22:26,479 --> 00:22:31,048
it constricted by demands of family.
392
00:22:31,050 --> 00:22:33,484
She inherits a child
from that marriage.
393
00:22:33,486 --> 00:22:35,886
The relationship between
Dorothea and the child
394
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is difficult because they're
both competing for Maynard.
395
00:22:39,826 --> 00:22:41,792
My mother's relationship
to Dorothea
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00:22:41,794 --> 00:22:43,194
was a very tempestuous one.
397
00:22:43,196 --> 00:22:44,428
She was an adolescent.
398
00:22:44,430 --> 00:22:48,199
Dorothea probably left
something to be desired
399
00:22:48,201 --> 00:22:50,301
as the mother of a grumpy,
400
00:22:50,303 --> 00:22:52,002
rebellious teenager.
401
00:22:52,004 --> 00:22:54,739
At the time, people were not
terribly well informed
402
00:22:54,741 --> 00:22:56,741
about how to raise children.
403
00:22:56,743 --> 00:23:00,378
I just don't think she was
very nurturing.
404
00:23:00,380 --> 00:23:05,416
In May of 1925, Daniel Rhodes Dixon was born,
405
00:23:05,418 --> 00:23:08,386
Dorothea and Maynard's first child.
406
00:23:08,388 --> 00:23:11,222
Consie now had a stepbrother.
407
00:23:11,224 --> 00:23:15,192
And two years later, another.
408
00:23:15,194 --> 00:23:17,828
John Eagle Feather.
409
00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:20,531
STEIN: Her son John has
spoken about
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00:23:20,533 --> 00:23:22,800
the fact that he didn't
experience
411
00:23:22,802 --> 00:23:25,236
a lot of physical affection
from her.
412
00:23:25,238 --> 00:23:27,972
She was a photographer
who wanted to look,
413
00:23:27,974 --> 00:23:30,574
and she was much happier
seeing Maynard
414
00:23:30,576 --> 00:23:34,545
doing the work of nurture.
415
00:23:41,087 --> 00:23:44,922
The photographs are full
of the tenderness
416
00:23:44,924 --> 00:23:48,826
that characterized
her later photographs
417
00:23:48,828 --> 00:23:51,162
of fathers and children.
418
00:23:51,164 --> 00:23:55,433
Maynard was free to continue living his Bohemian art life.
419
00:23:55,435 --> 00:23:57,835
He would go off on a painting trip
420
00:23:57,837 --> 00:24:00,271
saying he'd be back in a few weeks.
421
00:24:00,273 --> 00:24:05,409
But it was often months, sometimes without word.
422
00:24:05,411 --> 00:24:08,846
Old man makes babies.
423
00:24:08,848 --> 00:24:10,648
Disappears on painting trips,
424
00:24:10,650 --> 00:24:12,750
leaving her
with the two babies
425
00:24:12,752 --> 00:24:15,152
and a rebellious teenager.
426
00:24:15,154 --> 00:24:19,089
Poor Dorothea was an artist
and was trying to do her work,
427
00:24:19,091 --> 00:24:20,658
and here she was stuck
428
00:24:20,660 --> 00:24:23,527
with all these children
to take care of,
429
00:24:23,529 --> 00:24:24,995
with a charming husband
430
00:24:24,997 --> 00:24:27,865
who bounced in and out
every couple of months.
431
00:24:27,867 --> 00:24:32,036
Often as the sole parent, even when Maynard was at home,
432
00:24:32,038 --> 00:24:35,172
Dorothea became the one holding the family together
433
00:24:35,174 --> 00:24:37,408
through her portrait photography.
434
00:24:37,410 --> 00:24:41,579
My grandfather Paul wasn't the ideal parent either.
435
00:24:41,581 --> 00:24:45,216
Often away from Katharine and his children,
436
00:24:45,218 --> 00:24:47,451
he was devotedly researching farm labor
437
00:24:47,453 --> 00:24:50,221
in the Central Valley of California and New Mexico,
438
00:24:50,223 --> 00:24:53,357
pioneering a new kind of economics
439
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,160
with a notebook and a camera.
440
00:24:56,162 --> 00:25:00,498
As the big plantations grew
in California, growers wanted
441
00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:02,800
a cheap labor force
and they started importing it.
442
00:25:02,802 --> 00:25:05,503
By the 1920s, when Paul Taylor
443
00:25:05,505 --> 00:25:08,038
really started his research,
444
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,642
it was overwhelmingly
Mexicans.
445
00:25:11,644 --> 00:25:15,579
WOMAN: He learned how to speak
Spanish
446
00:25:15,581 --> 00:25:18,582
and decided to go down
to Mexico and start
447
00:25:18,584 --> 00:25:20,918
actually studying
Mexican life,
448
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,488
not just Mexican work.
449
00:25:32,865 --> 00:25:36,100
MAN: Intuitively,
without having a word
450
00:25:36,102 --> 00:25:38,569
to define
what he was doing,
451
00:25:38,571 --> 00:25:41,839
Paul Taylor was engaged in
social documentary photography.
452
00:25:41,841 --> 00:25:44,909
He realized how important
the camera was
453
00:25:44,911 --> 00:25:47,845
to the kind of economics
he was doing.
454
00:25:47,847 --> 00:25:51,015
And he used it as a form
of visual note taking
455
00:25:51,017 --> 00:25:53,117
to supplement
his research.
456
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,688
WOMAN: Recording what they were
doing was very hard with words,
457
00:25:57,690 --> 00:25:59,957
and Paul understood that
early on,
458
00:25:59,959 --> 00:26:02,459
that photography was
a much better way
459
00:26:02,461 --> 00:26:04,528
to record activity
and action.
460
00:26:04,530 --> 00:26:09,733
No one else was
doing this.
461
00:26:09,735 --> 00:26:13,003
MAN: The Mexicans come at
a very important time
462
00:26:13,005 --> 00:26:14,838
in California agriculture,
463
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,841
embarking on a massive period
of expansion.
464
00:26:17,843 --> 00:26:21,445
California agriculture
is not wheat and corn,
465
00:26:21,447 --> 00:26:22,913
it's fruit and vegetables.
466
00:26:22,915 --> 00:26:25,082
And most of that
can't be mechanized.
467
00:26:25,084 --> 00:26:26,383
You have to have people
468
00:26:26,385 --> 00:26:29,954
waddling down the furrows,
cutting that lettuce.
469
00:26:29,956 --> 00:26:31,589
It's stoop labor.
470
00:26:31,591 --> 00:26:34,725
It's hand labor.
471
00:26:34,727 --> 00:26:37,995
They were the first
automobile migrants,
472
00:26:37,997 --> 00:26:41,565
because what made their lives
possible was the ability
473
00:26:41,567 --> 00:26:44,134
to shift between jobs
in automobiles
474
00:26:44,136 --> 00:26:48,072
and string together a long
sequence of seasonal work.
475
00:26:48,074 --> 00:26:51,175
And this is where Paul Taylor
first encountered
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00:26:51,177 --> 00:26:54,144
the conditions of
industrialized agriculture
477
00:26:54,146 --> 00:26:56,747
that would become a focus
of his study
478
00:26:56,749 --> 00:26:58,415
for the rest of his life.
479
00:26:58,417 --> 00:26:59,950
I remember talking to him
480
00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:02,953
about being in Imperial Valley
for the first time
481
00:27:02,955 --> 00:27:07,157
and how overwhelmed he was
to see people
482
00:27:07,159 --> 00:27:11,328
riding out into the fields
to pitch melons all day.
483
00:27:11,330 --> 00:27:13,931
No fresh water.
There would be warm water.
484
00:27:13,933 --> 00:27:16,500
There were no toilets
in the fields.
485
00:27:16,502 --> 00:27:21,238
And then returning to their
barrios on the edge of town,
486
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,773
and sometimes worse.
487
00:27:22,775 --> 00:27:24,942
Little brush shelters
that they had erected.
488
00:27:24,944 --> 00:27:27,778
WOMAN: What Paul saw
489
00:27:27,780 --> 00:27:32,716
was that these young men labored
under intolerable conditions.
490
00:27:32,718 --> 00:27:36,020
Paul was outraged
by this.
491
00:27:42,595 --> 00:27:45,729
MAN: People don't realize
how hardscrabble it was
492
00:27:45,731 --> 00:27:48,065
for everybody
in the Depression.
493
00:27:48,067 --> 00:27:51,301
When we were young, we thought
that Dory and Maynard
494
00:27:51,303 --> 00:27:53,804
really had this income security.
495
00:27:53,806 --> 00:27:56,273
In actual truth,
they didn't.
496
00:27:56,275 --> 00:27:58,242
WOMAN: Dorothea and Maynard
497
00:27:58,244 --> 00:28:01,378
just didn't know how
to get by any longer.
498
00:28:01,380 --> 00:28:04,348
So they packed the kids
and art supplies up
499
00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:06,116
and they took off
for the Southwest.
500
00:28:11,090 --> 00:28:14,158
They go down
to Taos, New Mexico.
501
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,594
Dixon, of course,
is painting.
502
00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:23,934
And the kids are being
taken care of by Lange.
503
00:28:23,936 --> 00:28:28,338
MAN: It was a dirt floor,
an earthen floor.
504
00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:29,740
But they found a way.
505
00:28:29,742 --> 00:28:32,443
A little touch here,
a little touch there.
506
00:28:32,445 --> 00:28:34,078
It was beautiful.
507
00:28:34,146 --> 00:28:35,879
Just beautiful.
508
00:28:41,053 --> 00:28:42,986
My grandmother recalled,
509
00:28:43,055 --> 00:28:46,356
"Paul Strand was also photographing in Taos
510
00:28:46,425 --> 00:28:48,292
while we were there.
511
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,462
With great purpose, he used to drive by almost every morning.
512
00:28:51,530 --> 00:28:53,764
It was the first time
I observed
513
00:28:53,833 --> 00:28:55,365
a person in my own trade
514
00:28:55,434 --> 00:28:57,735
who was so intent on his purposes
515
00:28:57,803 --> 00:29:01,238
and so solitary, but he was not living a woman's life.
516
00:29:01,307 --> 00:29:03,941
I photographed once in a while, just a little,
517
00:29:04,009 --> 00:29:06,243
but mostly tried to be of help to Maynard
518
00:29:06,245 --> 00:29:08,245
and took care of the children."
519
00:29:08,247 --> 00:29:11,448
WOMAN: So they stuck it out
there for a while
520
00:29:11,450 --> 00:29:14,818
and then did make it back
to San Francisco.
521
00:29:14,820 --> 00:29:15,986
But by that time,
522
00:29:15,988 --> 00:29:18,288
their relationship was beginning
to fall apart,
523
00:29:18,290 --> 00:29:20,691
and they both went and lived
in their own studios
524
00:29:20,693 --> 00:29:23,160
and began what would be
a long process for Dorothea
525
00:29:23,162 --> 00:29:25,462
of boarding
her children out.
526
00:29:25,464 --> 00:29:27,397
They both needed to earn
a living.
527
00:29:27,399 --> 00:29:29,900
They couldn't drag
these small children around
528
00:29:29,902 --> 00:29:31,835
and so they put them
out to board.
529
00:29:31,837 --> 00:29:34,338
It was very hurtful and very
hard on the kids.
530
00:29:34,340 --> 00:29:39,042
During the Depression, it was
the only recourse for people
531
00:29:39,044 --> 00:29:40,244
without any money.
532
00:29:40,246 --> 00:29:43,781
MAN: To put the kids in
somebody else's home
533
00:29:43,783 --> 00:29:47,818
for nine months -- which I guess
it was that long sometimes --
534
00:29:47,820 --> 00:29:51,755
must have hurt Dorothea as much
as it hurt the kids.
535
00:29:51,757 --> 00:29:54,958
When you enter into
the visual world,
536
00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:00,030
detaching yourself
from all the holds on you,
537
00:30:00,032 --> 00:30:02,566
not taking a few photographs
538
00:30:02,568 --> 00:30:06,103
while you're going down
to the co-op,
539
00:30:06,105 --> 00:30:08,539
or...
540
00:30:08,541 --> 00:30:13,944
but it is a mental disengagement
541
00:30:13,946 --> 00:30:20,851
so that you live
for maybe two or three hours
542
00:30:20,853 --> 00:30:25,055
as completely as possible
a visual experience,
543
00:30:25,057 --> 00:30:29,760
where you feel that you have
lost yourself, your identity.
544
00:30:29,762 --> 00:30:34,932
You are only an observer.
545
00:30:34,934 --> 00:30:37,167
Only that.
546
00:30:39,305 --> 00:30:41,071
On Mother's Day,
547
00:30:41,073 --> 00:30:43,273
young son John presented his mother
548
00:30:43,275 --> 00:30:44,541
a bouquet of daisies.
549
00:30:44,543 --> 00:30:45,843
He later recalled,
550
00:30:45,845 --> 00:30:50,681
"Why didn't she accept my gift of the daisies?
551
00:30:50,683 --> 00:30:53,283
Instead, she took a photograph."
552
00:31:09,602 --> 00:31:11,368
1933,
553
00:31:11,370 --> 00:31:13,337
the year President Franklin Roosevelt
554
00:31:13,339 --> 00:31:15,339
came into office,
555
00:31:15,341 --> 00:31:17,574
was one of the bleakest years of the Depression.
556
00:31:17,576 --> 00:31:21,211
MAN: Just looking out
the window of her studio,
557
00:31:21,213 --> 00:31:23,180
Lange saw soup lines.
558
00:31:23,182 --> 00:31:25,249
I wonder to what extent
the conditions
559
00:31:25,251 --> 00:31:27,517
propelled her
out of that studio.
560
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:30,087
There were new things
to photograph,
561
00:31:30,089 --> 00:31:33,090
new ways to use
her camera.
562
00:31:33,092 --> 00:31:37,094
Dorothea challenged herself.
563
00:31:37,096 --> 00:31:38,395
As she recounted,
564
00:31:38,397 --> 00:31:41,231
"The discrepancy between what I was working on
565
00:31:41,233 --> 00:31:42,566
in my portrait studio
566
00:31:42,568 --> 00:31:44,835
and what was going on in the street
567
00:31:44,837 --> 00:31:47,004
was more than I could assimilate.
568
00:31:47,006 --> 00:31:49,740
So I set myself a big problem.
569
00:31:49,742 --> 00:31:52,843
I would go down there. I would photograph.
570
00:31:52,845 --> 00:31:55,412
I would come back, develop, print, mount,
571
00:31:55,414 --> 00:31:59,683
and put the images on the wall, all in 24 hours,
572
00:31:59,685 --> 00:32:03,287
just to see if I could grab a hunk of lightning."
573
00:32:03,289 --> 00:32:06,156
LANGE: When you're working well,
574
00:32:06,158 --> 00:32:10,227
all your instinctive powers
are in operation
575
00:32:10,229 --> 00:32:13,330
and you don't know why
you do the things you do.
576
00:32:13,332 --> 00:32:17,401
Sometimes you annihilate
yourself.
577
00:32:17,403 --> 00:32:19,536
That is something one needs
578
00:32:19,538 --> 00:32:21,038
to be able to do.
579
00:32:25,511 --> 00:32:28,245
STEIN: She had developed
some negatives
580
00:32:28,247 --> 00:32:31,882
but had accidentally left
one negative undeveloped
581
00:32:31,884 --> 00:32:33,417
in the film holder.
582
00:32:33,419 --> 00:32:36,853
Sturtevant went into
the darkroom
583
00:32:36,855 --> 00:32:40,557
to develop his own work.
584
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:42,592
He develops it.
585
00:32:42,594 --> 00:32:46,797
Rushed over to her,
awed by the composition
586
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:50,634
of her innovative
"White Angel Bread Line."
587
00:33:12,925 --> 00:33:16,126
It changed my outlook.
588
00:33:16,128 --> 00:33:19,596
It changed my way of living.
589
00:33:19,598 --> 00:33:23,200
I made some...
590
00:33:23,202 --> 00:33:26,336
decisions on what I thought
591
00:33:26,338 --> 00:33:28,505
was a good way to be
a photographer.
592
00:33:28,507 --> 00:33:32,843
And I saw certain
possibilities.
593
00:33:32,845 --> 00:33:37,481
WOMAN: Dorothea finds a soup
kitchen that is handing out
594
00:33:37,483 --> 00:33:41,685
paper bags that have cheese
and sandwiches, and she goes in
595
00:33:41,687 --> 00:33:43,687
and there are women.
596
00:33:43,689 --> 00:33:48,225
For social reasons, they
couldn't be on a bread line.
597
00:33:48,227 --> 00:33:53,330
An early photograph Lange took
is "Mended Stockings."
598
00:33:53,332 --> 00:33:57,234
What you see is
the fine, fine detail,
599
00:33:57,236 --> 00:33:59,836
that shows how many times
600
00:33:59,838 --> 00:34:03,607
the woman has mended
her stocking.
601
00:34:03,609 --> 00:34:06,877
STEIN: The sense
of the silk stocking
602
00:34:06,879 --> 00:34:09,713
which can't be replaced,
that must be mended.
603
00:34:09,715 --> 00:34:11,782
All the signs of how people
604
00:34:11,784 --> 00:34:14,785
were having to stitch things
together.
605
00:34:14,787 --> 00:34:18,355
Nothing could be disposed of
in this time,
606
00:34:18,357 --> 00:34:22,459
and for Dorothea, this is
really the intimate look
607
00:34:22,461 --> 00:34:24,961
that tells us about
social experience
608
00:34:24,963 --> 00:34:28,198
in the Great Depression.
609
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,969
Lange was already practiced
in looking at individual faces.
610
00:34:32,971 --> 00:34:36,440
A motto that she had pinned
on her darkroom wall,
611
00:34:36,442 --> 00:34:38,708
the words
of Francis Bacon --
612
00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:42,446
"The contemplation
of things as they are
613
00:34:42,448 --> 00:34:47,250
is in itself a nobler thing than
a whole harvest of invention."
614
00:34:47,252 --> 00:34:49,719
And she took this quote
and thought,
615
00:34:49,721 --> 00:34:53,657
one can see it even more
with bodies.
616
00:35:21,420 --> 00:35:24,287
LANGE: That really should go,
though,
617
00:35:24,289 --> 00:35:26,656
with the unemployment
lineup.
618
00:35:26,658 --> 00:35:30,193
You know, for the checks.
That is part of that picture.
619
00:35:30,195 --> 00:35:32,295
MAN: We don't even have
this in yet.
620
00:35:32,297 --> 00:35:34,865
LANGE: We have to.
It's an important picture.
621
00:35:34,867 --> 00:35:37,100
The creative layout for the walls
622
00:35:37,102 --> 00:35:39,336
of the Museum of Modern Art exhibition
623
00:35:39,338 --> 00:35:41,738
was well underway by December of 1964.
624
00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:45,075
LANGE: I think we can do them
as the best visually.
625
00:35:45,077 --> 00:35:46,610
Then the Murray & Ready
626
00:35:46,612 --> 00:35:49,646
employment office down there,
they needn't all be in,
627
00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:51,781
but they belong together.
628
00:35:51,783 --> 00:35:53,183
Put it that way, then.
629
00:35:53,185 --> 00:35:54,985
And we will see.
630
00:35:54,987 --> 00:35:57,554
This might not be a bad place
for these to go.
631
00:35:57,556 --> 00:35:59,456
CONRAD:
When John Szarkowski came,
632
00:35:59,458 --> 00:36:01,558
there was an element of, "okay,
633
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,961
we've got to dress up
a little bit here, Richard."
634
00:36:04,963 --> 00:36:07,898
And I remember being
a little surprised by this,
635
00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:10,534
but yes, I showed up
with a tie and a jacket
636
00:36:10,536 --> 00:36:13,670
during John Szarkowski's visit.
637
00:36:13,672 --> 00:36:18,742
WOMAN: The curator photographer
at MoMA was John Szarkowski,
638
00:36:18,744 --> 00:36:20,677
and he twice came
to California
639
00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:23,747
and spent long periods of time
640
00:36:23,749 --> 00:36:26,316
working with her about
these choices.
641
00:36:26,318 --> 00:36:28,385
LANGE: I like it very much.
642
00:36:28,387 --> 00:36:30,587
If we could do it
on the basis
643
00:36:30,589 --> 00:36:33,557
of no business of my feelings
about my work.
644
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:36,026
SZARKOWSKI: No, you have
to give me credit
645
00:36:36,028 --> 00:36:38,595
for being able to look
at these like you do.
646
00:36:38,597 --> 00:36:41,464
I want to have some feeling of
the way this thing
647
00:36:41,466 --> 00:36:44,367
is developed for as you have,
as you people have.
648
00:36:44,369 --> 00:36:45,802
Well, it could be.
649
00:36:45,804 --> 00:36:49,005
Well, you're here now, and we're
going to have hours together.
650
00:36:49,007 --> 00:36:53,009
[Waves lapping, gulls calling]
651
00:36:55,914 --> 00:36:58,748
MAN: If you went
down on the waterfront
652
00:36:58,750 --> 00:37:01,751
in San Francisco in 1934,
653
00:37:01,753 --> 00:37:04,921
you found a labor system
akin to slavery.
654
00:37:04,923 --> 00:37:08,725
Every day, thousands of workers
would shape up for work.
655
00:37:08,727 --> 00:37:10,427
There would be a huge crowd.
656
00:37:10,429 --> 00:37:12,996
A foreman would point --
"You, you..." --
657
00:37:12,998 --> 00:37:15,298
and that's how you got
your job
658
00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:18,235
to heft something
off a freighter.
659
00:37:18,237 --> 00:37:22,472
It was going to explode in
the 1934 Longshoremen strike.
660
00:37:24,076 --> 00:37:26,309
And when it exploded,
Lange was there,
661
00:37:26,311 --> 00:37:29,980
in the middle of all this stuff
that's going on.
662
00:37:29,982 --> 00:37:31,881
ANNOUNCER: 1934.
663
00:37:31,883 --> 00:37:35,118
Today the eyes of America are on
our own labor troubles
664
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,454
like the San Francisco
general strike.
665
00:37:37,456 --> 00:37:38,922
2,500 guardsmen move in.
666
00:37:38,924 --> 00:37:41,324
MAN: They were shooting people
667
00:37:41,326 --> 00:37:43,593
on the waterfront
in San Francisco.
668
00:37:43,595 --> 00:37:45,462
And she wouldn't take me.
669
00:37:45,464 --> 00:37:47,230
And I was ready to help her
670
00:37:47,232 --> 00:37:48,698
carrying a tripod.
671
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:50,100
It wasn't safe.
672
00:37:50,102 --> 00:37:53,637
Dorothea said, "I wasn't used to jostling about
673
00:37:53,639 --> 00:37:56,573
in groups of angry men with a camera,
674
00:37:56,575 --> 00:37:58,575
but it needed to be done."
675
00:38:00,479 --> 00:38:03,280
MAN: She's capturing
the speeches
676
00:38:03,282 --> 00:38:06,149
and the protests.
677
00:38:06,151 --> 00:38:08,051
One of her earliest
678
00:38:08,053 --> 00:38:09,519
and most famous photographs
679
00:38:09,521 --> 00:38:11,688
is of the speaker behind
the microphone
680
00:38:11,690 --> 00:38:14,557
addressing the May Day crowd.
681
00:38:23,302 --> 00:38:28,672
Paul Taylor was doing a story
on the Longshoremen strike.
682
00:38:28,674 --> 00:38:33,943
Ironically, Dorothea Lange
was also there, photographing.
683
00:38:33,945 --> 00:38:35,278
But they never met.
684
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,515
Willard Van Dyke, a colleague of Dorothea's,
685
00:38:38,517 --> 00:38:41,484
is impressed by her new documentary work
686
00:38:41,486 --> 00:38:44,454
and creates a show of it in his gallery.
687
00:38:44,456 --> 00:38:46,723
WOMAN: Willard says
to Paul Taylor,
688
00:38:46,725 --> 00:38:49,693
"You should come down
and look at this exhibit."
689
00:38:49,695 --> 00:38:52,862
Paul sees immediately
that her work is extraordinary
690
00:38:52,864 --> 00:38:54,597
and noticed a photograph
691
00:38:54,599 --> 00:38:57,300
that Lange has taken
of the speaker.
692
00:38:57,302 --> 00:38:58,802
Gets Lange's number,
693
00:38:58,804 --> 00:39:01,204
calls her up and says,
"Can I use your photograph?"
694
00:39:01,206 --> 00:39:02,706
And she says, "Yes,"
695
00:39:02,708 --> 00:39:05,108
and that's the first time
they talked.
696
00:39:05,110 --> 00:39:08,211
One of the remarkable things
about "Survey Graphic"
697
00:39:08,213 --> 00:39:12,382
is that they acknowledge
that Lange took the portrait.
698
00:39:12,384 --> 00:39:14,417
That was rare at the time.
699
00:39:14,419 --> 00:39:19,089
In October of 1934, my grandfather began a project
700
00:39:19,091 --> 00:39:22,692
with the California State Emergency Relief Administration
701
00:39:22,694 --> 00:39:26,129
documenting the working conditions of farm labor.
702
00:39:26,131 --> 00:39:29,065
He had an unorthodox idea.
703
00:39:29,067 --> 00:39:33,770
MAN: The bureaucratic system had
no place for a photographer,
704
00:39:33,772 --> 00:39:35,905
it had no concept of
its benefit or its use.
705
00:39:35,907 --> 00:39:39,476
Taylor found a way
to deceive the system
706
00:39:39,478 --> 00:39:42,045
by hiring Dorothea,
707
00:39:42,047 --> 00:39:44,280
"a photographer,"
708
00:39:44,282 --> 00:39:46,716
masking the word
"photography" --
709
00:39:46,718 --> 00:39:50,053
insert in lieu thereof
"typist."
710
00:39:50,055 --> 00:39:52,422
You know the phrase that they
always put
711
00:39:52,424 --> 00:39:55,825
in the personnel contracts --
"and other duties as assigned"?
712
00:39:55,827 --> 00:39:57,227
Bring your camera.
713
00:39:57,229 --> 00:40:00,797
WOMAN: Paul and Dorothea started
going out in the field together.
714
00:40:00,799 --> 00:40:04,267
And they took very different
talents and skills.
715
00:40:04,269 --> 00:40:08,037
Paul is writing down
what everyone's saying.
716
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:11,074
WOMAN: He would interview
people.
717
00:40:11,076 --> 00:40:13,610
The questions were respectful,
718
00:40:13,612 --> 00:40:16,379
designed to find the heart
of the experience.
719
00:40:16,381 --> 00:40:19,616
And she got to see that happen
for the first time.
720
00:40:19,618 --> 00:40:22,519
WOMAN: It was a match
made in heaven
721
00:40:22,521 --> 00:40:26,589
because Paul's work needed
this type of visualization.
722
00:40:26,591 --> 00:40:29,426
And what it allowed Paul
to do was to make
723
00:40:29,428 --> 00:40:31,594
a much bigger social impact.
724
00:40:33,698 --> 00:40:39,035
WOMAN: For Dorothea,
the first trip is shocking.
725
00:40:39,037 --> 00:40:48,645
They head down Highway 99
into the Imperial Valley.
726
00:40:48,647 --> 00:40:53,283
She is simply floored by
the level of poverty
727
00:40:53,285 --> 00:40:56,052
that she is witnessing
for the first time
728
00:40:56,054 --> 00:40:58,421
in this state
that she's adopted.
729
00:41:09,935 --> 00:41:11,968
WOMAN: From the time
Dorothea Lange
730
00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:13,937
started working
with Paul Taylor,
731
00:41:13,939 --> 00:41:18,341
her understanding of what she
was photographing expanded
732
00:41:18,343 --> 00:41:19,943
and it became not just
733
00:41:19,945 --> 00:41:22,779
these individuals she was
photographing
734
00:41:22,781 --> 00:41:26,783
but part of a larger view
of American society.
735
00:41:26,785 --> 00:41:30,286
She is seeing with
her photographer's eye.
736
00:41:30,288 --> 00:41:32,889
He's seeing
with his economist's eye.
737
00:41:32,891 --> 00:41:36,526
And they're together
24 hours a day.
738
00:41:36,528 --> 00:41:40,663
There can't help but be
some chemistry and some
739
00:41:40,665 --> 00:41:43,600
exchange that's going on.
740
00:41:43,602 --> 00:41:45,835
WOMAN: Dorothea is still
married to Maynard
741
00:41:45,837 --> 00:41:48,505
and Paul is still married
to Katharine.
742
00:41:48,507 --> 00:41:52,642
MAN: Paul Taylor also has
a family of his own
743
00:41:52,644 --> 00:41:55,545
and a marriage
that's tottering.
744
00:41:55,547 --> 00:42:00,917
WOMAN: At first she saw her role
as a photographer only.
745
00:42:00,919 --> 00:42:05,455
She then developed a series
of photographs with captions.
746
00:42:05,457 --> 00:42:09,292
The captions were written
longhand
747
00:42:09,294 --> 00:42:13,196
and some of them contain quotes
from the people, and others
748
00:42:13,198 --> 00:42:15,765
were descriptions of
the conditions faced by people.
749
00:42:15,767 --> 00:42:19,202
These then became
a government report
750
00:42:19,204 --> 00:42:22,305
like no government report
had ever been.
751
00:42:23,775 --> 00:42:27,877
And they were
remarkably effective.
752
00:42:27,879 --> 00:42:31,381
WOMAN: He understood his writing
could get really dry.
753
00:42:31,383 --> 00:42:34,017
But with her photographs,
754
00:42:34,019 --> 00:42:38,221
he could then put the quotations
of the family members,
755
00:42:38,223 --> 00:42:42,692
and the photograph
made the quote come alive.
756
00:42:55,140 --> 00:42:57,707
After one of their longer work trips,
757
00:42:57,709 --> 00:42:59,576
they headed back to Berkeley.
758
00:42:59,578 --> 00:43:03,479
They took their time going over the Tehachapi Pass.
759
00:43:03,481 --> 00:43:05,381
It was undeniable.
760
00:43:05,383 --> 00:43:07,650
They had fallen in love.
761
00:43:07,652 --> 00:43:11,287
Compelled by a vision of what they could do together,
762
00:43:11,289 --> 00:43:14,257
each had found their muse and their equal.
763
00:43:16,695 --> 00:43:19,195
MAN: They find something
in one another
764
00:43:19,197 --> 00:43:20,897
that allows them to continue
765
00:43:20,899 --> 00:43:24,167
without diminishing
their passions.
766
00:43:24,169 --> 00:43:25,668
When he saw her images,
767
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:28,338
he put away all
of his photographic work
768
00:43:28,340 --> 00:43:32,976
and concentrated
on his intellectual life.
769
00:43:32,978 --> 00:43:35,278
Taylor later in life said,
770
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,748
"In Dorothea
I found my photographer."
771
00:43:38,750 --> 00:43:41,618
When Dorothea and Paul
fell in love,
772
00:43:41,620 --> 00:43:46,189
they fell in love deeply,
irrevocably, 150%.
773
00:43:46,191 --> 00:43:49,425
It meant that both of
their marriages had to end,
774
00:43:49,427 --> 00:43:52,195
which was very difficult
for everyone.
775
00:43:52,197 --> 00:43:54,464
MAN: She thought that Maynard
was better --
776
00:43:54,466 --> 00:43:57,000
greater, if you like --
777
00:43:57,002 --> 00:43:59,936
than he ever managed
to achieve.
778
00:43:59,938 --> 00:44:05,675
She was never able to get at
Maynard's real innards.
779
00:44:05,677 --> 00:44:07,377
He withheld them.
780
00:44:19,024 --> 00:44:21,124
When, on that Sunday morning,
781
00:44:21,126 --> 00:44:24,794
I went to their bedroom at about
9:00 in the morning,
782
00:44:24,796 --> 00:44:27,597
there they were,
in bed together, naked.
783
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:31,167
That was the moment at which
Dorothea chose to tell me
784
00:44:31,169 --> 00:44:33,469
that they were going
to get a divorce.
785
00:44:33,471 --> 00:44:36,572
Everyone was unhappy.
786
00:44:36,574 --> 00:44:37,874
And new lives
787
00:44:37,876 --> 00:44:39,742
for Dorothea and Paul
788
00:44:39,744 --> 00:44:41,544
required dismantling
789
00:44:41,546 --> 00:44:42,979
their old ones.
790
00:44:42,981 --> 00:44:44,914
Both couples divorced.
791
00:44:44,916 --> 00:44:47,450
And, in December of 1935,
792
00:44:47,452 --> 00:44:51,554
in the middle of a work trip, Dorothea and Paul married
793
00:44:51,556 --> 00:44:55,058
in an Albuquerque, New Mexico courthouse.
794
00:44:55,060 --> 00:44:58,361
WOMAN: Not only did she have two
small children with Maynard,
795
00:44:58,363 --> 00:45:01,731
but then in her new marriage
she inherited three children,
796
00:45:01,733 --> 00:45:05,034
and she showed that her skills
had in no way improved.
797
00:45:05,036 --> 00:45:07,870
She really was driven,
in a way that we give
798
00:45:07,872 --> 00:45:10,139
tremendous permission
to men for,
799
00:45:10,141 --> 00:45:13,376
but absolutely no permission
to women.
800
00:45:13,378 --> 00:45:17,513
WOMAN: I was 5 years old
when I met Dorothea in 1935.
801
00:45:17,515 --> 00:45:21,150
We all spent the first year of
their marriage in foster homes.
802
00:45:21,152 --> 00:45:24,587
Because, I think especially
Dorothea said, she wanted Paul
803
00:45:24,589 --> 00:45:27,390
and her to have the first year
just to work
804
00:45:27,392 --> 00:45:29,659
and to get used to being
married, I suppose.
805
00:45:29,661 --> 00:45:30,893
So that's what happened.
806
00:45:30,895 --> 00:45:32,962
WOMAN: Dorothea was having
807
00:45:32,964 --> 00:45:36,065
a lot of trouble
with her son Daniel.
808
00:45:36,067 --> 00:45:39,969
She was in agony about
her inability to help him,
809
00:45:39,971 --> 00:45:43,139
redoubled by the fact that
she was so much away.
810
00:45:43,141 --> 00:45:47,910
MAN: Daniel, at that time, was
desperately, desperately mad.
811
00:45:47,912 --> 00:45:51,714
WOMAN: He started acting out
in huge ways,
812
00:45:51,716 --> 00:45:54,383
like taking his mother's camera
and hocking it.
813
00:45:54,385 --> 00:45:58,654
That's a pretty big statement
right there.
814
00:45:58,656 --> 00:46:01,591
DANIEL: Paul heard me
call her an "old sow."
815
00:46:01,593 --> 00:46:03,760
You know, you think of him
as being
816
00:46:03,762 --> 00:46:05,962
kind of deliberate
in his movements.
817
00:46:05,964 --> 00:46:07,764
But this was not
deliberate.
818
00:46:07,766 --> 00:46:09,899
He moved from where he was
819
00:46:09,901 --> 00:46:13,269
to where I was
like a bolt of lightning.
820
00:46:13,271 --> 00:46:16,739
And he grabbed me by
the throat and shoulder
821
00:46:16,741 --> 00:46:19,408
and he threw me
down the stairs.
822
00:46:19,410 --> 00:46:23,780
Nobody called his wife
an old sow.
823
00:46:23,782 --> 00:46:26,616
Oh, boy.
824
00:46:26,618 --> 00:46:30,720
I believe that he was
a romantic man.
825
00:46:30,722 --> 00:46:34,991
He had a deeply romantic passion
for and belief in justice.
826
00:46:34,993 --> 00:46:38,694
You can't have that kind of
belief unless you're romantic.
827
00:46:38,696 --> 00:46:42,965
And he loved her, fiercely.
828
00:46:44,502 --> 00:46:47,703
Despite those complicated and disturbing early years,
829
00:46:47,705 --> 00:46:50,907
my uncle Daniel, having found success as a writer,
830
00:46:50,909 --> 00:46:53,209
returned to the family fold,
831
00:46:53,211 --> 00:46:55,945
sometimes as Dorothea's colleague
832
00:46:55,947 --> 00:46:58,347
and sometimes her confidant.
833
00:46:58,349 --> 00:47:02,885
LANGE: I need
to speak with you
834
00:47:02,887 --> 00:47:07,857
because you are one of those
who, from time to time,
835
00:47:07,859 --> 00:47:11,294
have understood me,
836
00:47:11,296 --> 00:47:13,362
I'm happy to say,
837
00:47:13,364 --> 00:47:15,331
as well as anybody.
838
00:47:15,333 --> 00:47:17,300
I know that when people
come to this exhibit,
839
00:47:17,302 --> 00:47:20,069
people who've heard of me
before,
840
00:47:20,071 --> 00:47:23,639
they will be thinking that
they're going to see an exhibit
841
00:47:23,641 --> 00:47:27,610
of what's called
documentary photography.
842
00:47:27,612 --> 00:47:29,478
But this cannot be.
843
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,348
I want to extract
844
00:47:32,350 --> 00:47:35,351
the universality
of the situation,
845
00:47:35,353 --> 00:47:37,687
not the circumstance.
846
00:47:37,689 --> 00:47:41,224
DANIEL: How are you gonna get it
done in the time you have left?
847
00:47:41,226 --> 00:47:43,526
I don't trust the time.
848
00:47:43,528 --> 00:47:46,696
I really don't trust it,
and I know how you work.
849
00:47:46,698 --> 00:47:50,299
I think the time has come for
you to make some decisions.
850
00:47:50,301 --> 00:47:51,767
I know.
I well know.
851
00:47:51,769 --> 00:47:57,073
I have to close the doors
and bar the windows,
852
00:47:57,075 --> 00:47:59,675
unhitch the telephone
853
00:47:59,677 --> 00:48:02,745
and face it myself --
I know that.
854
00:48:35,079 --> 00:48:37,079
All right.
855
00:48:54,866 --> 00:48:58,000
MAN: John Szarkowski
drew her out.
856
00:48:58,002 --> 00:49:00,970
He was very helpful
in trying to understand
857
00:49:00,972 --> 00:49:02,571
what she wanted
to accomplish
858
00:49:02,573 --> 00:49:05,408
and in trying
to implement it.
859
00:49:05,410 --> 00:49:08,544
You know, he's
the curator of the show.
860
00:49:11,049 --> 00:49:15,418
WOMAN: He was shaking up
the entire photography world.
861
00:49:15,420 --> 00:49:19,956
And he saw in Dorothea's work
that he could make a statement
862
00:49:19,958 --> 00:49:23,059
about what was possible
with photography.
863
00:49:23,061 --> 00:49:25,861
WOMAN: The idea of a photograph
being in a museum
864
00:49:25,863 --> 00:49:28,164
was a kind of complicated issue.
865
00:49:28,166 --> 00:49:32,268
It took a while for us to get
out of the magazine context
866
00:49:32,270 --> 00:49:34,036
and take the photograph
867
00:49:34,038 --> 00:49:37,540
and just put the photograph
itself on the wall
868
00:49:37,542 --> 00:49:39,408
and examine it.
869
00:49:39,410 --> 00:49:42,211
He recognized
870
00:49:42,213 --> 00:49:46,849
that Lange's photographs didn't
have to have all this context
871
00:49:46,851 --> 00:49:48,584
to get what she was after,
872
00:49:48,586 --> 00:49:52,855
that you could admire her
photographs for themselves.
873
00:49:52,857 --> 00:49:54,824
MAN: Most of what we want
is here, isn't it?
874
00:49:54,826 --> 00:49:56,926
I had no idea exactly
what I wanted.
875
00:49:56,928 --> 00:50:00,196
I was trying to do the best I
could with the materials I had.
876
00:50:00,198 --> 00:50:01,998
I didn't have it close.
877
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:08,104
MAN: You know, the materials
you don't have aren't important.
878
00:50:08,106 --> 00:50:10,139
They are to me.
879
00:50:12,810 --> 00:50:15,044
Another natural disaster
880
00:50:15,046 --> 00:50:18,214
coincided with the Depression --
881
00:50:18,216 --> 00:50:20,149
the Dust Bowl.
882
00:50:20,151 --> 00:50:24,520
WOMAN: There were storms
of dust that were so dense
883
00:50:24,522 --> 00:50:28,057
that you could not see your hand
in front of your face.
884
00:50:28,059 --> 00:50:31,660
And farmers reported that
their land, literally,
885
00:50:31,662 --> 00:50:34,163
was blown away.
886
00:50:39,370 --> 00:50:45,841
And then, in many cases, just
packed their cars and left.
887
00:50:45,843 --> 00:50:49,211
It was pointless
to stay.
888
00:50:51,382 --> 00:50:54,450
People were absolutely
ruined by it.
889
00:50:54,452 --> 00:50:58,220
It wasn't one year's bad crop
or even two years' bad crop.
890
00:50:58,222 --> 00:51:01,690
It was year after year
after year.
891
00:51:19,177 --> 00:51:23,079
WOMAN: The migration
tended to go to the west.
892
00:51:23,081 --> 00:51:25,081
They came from Nebraska.
893
00:51:25,083 --> 00:51:26,816
They came from South
and North Dakota.
894
00:51:26,818 --> 00:51:28,951
They came from New Mexico,
they came from Texas.
895
00:51:28,953 --> 00:51:30,619
The migration was composed
896
00:51:30,621 --> 00:51:32,488
of people who became
called "Okies,"
897
00:51:32,490 --> 00:51:36,492
but only a small minority
of them came from Oklahoma.
898
00:51:38,396 --> 00:51:41,497
MAN: In this case, instead
of the covered wagon,
899
00:51:41,499 --> 00:51:43,666
it was the covered jalopy.
900
00:51:43,668 --> 00:51:48,337
As a result of the creation
of the highway system,
901
00:51:48,339 --> 00:51:50,840
they were able to pack up
and move to a place
902
00:51:50,842 --> 00:51:53,843
that seemed to be a better land
where opportunity is awaited,
903
00:51:53,845 --> 00:51:55,511
in California.
904
00:51:55,513 --> 00:52:00,249
LANGE: You could use
the covered wagon
905
00:52:00,251 --> 00:52:04,520
and then either those cars
bogged down in the mud
906
00:52:04,522 --> 00:52:09,024
or that group of cars which
represents more people.
907
00:52:09,026 --> 00:52:14,663
Is that when people really
began arriving?
908
00:52:14,665 --> 00:52:17,900
LANGE: That car that we see
the back of,
909
00:52:17,902 --> 00:52:22,438
that was the first car I saw
that came out of the Dust Bowl.
910
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,374
And that was the day the darn
thing was discovered,
911
00:52:25,376 --> 00:52:27,610
what was happening --
nobody knew it.
912
00:52:27,612 --> 00:52:29,979
And then there was a rush.
913
00:52:29,981 --> 00:52:33,382
Never has stopped,
that influx.
914
00:52:33,384 --> 00:52:37,820
WOMAN: Paul and Dorothea were
the first to witness
915
00:52:37,822 --> 00:52:42,024
and to understand the causes
of this huge migration,
916
00:52:42,026 --> 00:52:47,429
and Paul was unusually creative
in trying to understand it.
917
00:52:47,431 --> 00:52:51,267
At the Yuma, Arizona crossing
into California,
918
00:52:51,269 --> 00:52:52,902
he hired a gas station
attendant.
919
00:52:52,904 --> 00:52:55,137
He said, "I'll pay you
a certain amount of money
920
00:52:55,139 --> 00:52:59,275
if you will simply keep
a tally of how many cars
921
00:52:59,277 --> 00:53:02,678
filled with these people
are coming into California."
922
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:07,349
And we are talking about several
hundred thousand people
923
00:53:07,351 --> 00:53:10,686
entering California,
hoping to stay there.
924
00:53:10,688 --> 00:53:16,525
This was a major problem
for California to absorb.
925
00:53:22,366 --> 00:53:25,234
Lange and Taylor were in
the middle of this influx,
926
00:53:25,236 --> 00:53:28,003
putting a face
on westward migration.
927
00:53:30,875 --> 00:53:33,475
Who were these folks
and where did they come from?
928
00:53:33,477 --> 00:53:35,744
Well, they were basically
white Americans.
929
00:53:35,746 --> 00:53:38,681
Hardworking family folks.
930
00:53:38,683 --> 00:53:41,684
They weren't coming
to feed off the state.
931
00:53:41,686 --> 00:53:44,053
They were coming to work
and find a home.
932
00:53:44,055 --> 00:53:48,524
They hoped to reestablish
themselves as family farmers.
933
00:53:51,596 --> 00:53:56,498
WOMAN: And, of course, they're
expecting this California dream.
934
00:54:02,573 --> 00:54:04,373
MAN: "People aren't friendly
935
00:54:04,375 --> 00:54:05,374
in California
936
00:54:05,376 --> 00:54:06,942
like they are back home,
937
00:54:06,944 --> 00:54:08,277
but they appreciate
938
00:54:08,279 --> 00:54:10,112
the cheap labor coming out."
939
00:54:12,617 --> 00:54:17,586
"We ain't no paupers,
we don't want no relief.
940
00:54:17,588 --> 00:54:19,888
But what we do want is
a chance
941
00:54:19,890 --> 00:54:23,259
to make an honest living
like what we was raised."
942
00:54:23,261 --> 00:54:27,363
WOMAN: One of the reasons that
people were migrating
943
00:54:27,365 --> 00:54:29,331
was not only the drought
944
00:54:29,333 --> 00:54:32,067
but the mechanization
of farming.
945
00:54:32,069 --> 00:54:35,237
And there's that amazing
photograph
946
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,239
called "Tractored Out."
947
00:54:37,241 --> 00:54:39,642
What you see is
this marooned house
948
00:54:39,644 --> 00:54:42,444
surrounded by this endless sea
of furrows.
949
00:54:42,446 --> 00:54:45,247
There's not a person
living in that house.
950
00:54:45,249 --> 00:54:47,016
It's uninhabitable.
951
00:54:47,018 --> 00:54:50,185
The furrows go right up
to the door.
952
00:54:50,187 --> 00:54:53,789
"On this plantation,
22 tractors
953
00:54:53,791 --> 00:54:56,592
and 13 four-row cultivators
954
00:54:56,594 --> 00:54:59,395
have replaced 130 families.
955
00:54:59,397 --> 00:55:01,497
Tractored out."
956
00:55:03,868 --> 00:55:08,470
WOMAN: Lange's photographs from
the '30s are full of hope,
957
00:55:08,472 --> 00:55:09,872
not just despair.
958
00:55:09,874 --> 00:55:13,175
Everyone trying to find
the American dream.
959
00:55:13,177 --> 00:55:17,146
Some of them finding it
and others,
960
00:55:17,148 --> 00:55:19,315
you just think, boy,
just can't imagine
961
00:55:19,317 --> 00:55:21,717
how they're
going to get there.
962
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,753
She took a series of photographs
of a family
963
00:55:24,755 --> 00:55:28,724
in Yakima, Washington, and when
I first saw the photographs,
964
00:55:28,726 --> 00:55:32,895
I looked at them and I said,
"What's that big object
965
00:55:32,897 --> 00:55:35,464
that's cutting across
on a diagonal?"
966
00:55:35,466 --> 00:55:38,534
You have to go to her caption.
967
00:55:38,536 --> 00:55:42,771
"Note: Still carrying a roll
of kitchen linoleum
968
00:55:42,773 --> 00:55:44,206
three years on the road."
969
00:55:44,208 --> 00:55:49,278
And that roll of linoleum
became memory of home
970
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,313
and dream of home.
971
00:55:55,753 --> 00:55:59,555
WOMAN: During the 1930s,
there is no greater value
972
00:55:59,557 --> 00:56:01,890
in society
than the role of mother.
973
00:56:01,892 --> 00:56:05,260
The conditions that
the women face
974
00:56:05,262 --> 00:56:08,530
make motherhood impossible.
975
00:56:08,532 --> 00:56:11,433
You can't take care
of your children
976
00:56:11,435 --> 00:56:13,569
in even the most basic ways.
977
00:56:13,571 --> 00:56:15,504
Working with Paul Taylor,
978
00:56:15,506 --> 00:56:19,274
Lange had an understanding
of what she was seeing.
979
00:56:19,276 --> 00:56:21,677
She could photograph
a shanty,
980
00:56:21,679 --> 00:56:24,513
and what she was really
photographing
981
00:56:24,515 --> 00:56:27,015
was the house
that wasn't there.
982
00:56:27,017 --> 00:56:28,951
She could photograph
a door frame,
983
00:56:28,953 --> 00:56:30,986
and what she was really
photographing
984
00:56:30,988 --> 00:56:32,788
was the door
that wasn't there.
985
00:56:32,790 --> 00:56:36,392
She could photograph
the stovepipe
986
00:56:36,394 --> 00:56:39,061
and what she was really
photographing was the hearth
987
00:56:39,063 --> 00:56:40,329
that wasn't there.
988
00:56:40,331 --> 00:56:41,897
The reason,
I would argue,
989
00:56:41,899 --> 00:56:46,168
that Lange saw this so clearly
is that she faced
990
00:56:46,170 --> 00:56:48,704
a number of her own struggles
991
00:56:48,706 --> 00:56:50,239
as a mother.
992
00:56:50,241 --> 00:56:53,142
She was a working woman
who was on the road.
993
00:56:53,144 --> 00:56:56,245
She probably felt she should
have done a better job,
994
00:56:56,247 --> 00:56:58,981
but she was busy trying
to change the world.
995
00:57:00,951 --> 00:57:03,619
ANNOUNCER: A New Deal
beginning to roll.
996
00:57:03,621 --> 00:57:07,222
A running river
of social legislation.
997
00:57:07,224 --> 00:57:08,991
Facing a country in trouble,
998
00:57:08,993 --> 00:57:11,727
President Roosevelt engineered legislation
999
00:57:11,729 --> 00:57:15,531
creating programs collectively known as the "New Deal."
1000
00:57:15,533 --> 00:57:19,234
Among them, social security and a program
1001
00:57:19,236 --> 00:57:22,137
to reduce chronic rural poverty --
1002
00:57:22,139 --> 00:57:24,606
the Resettlement Administration.
1003
00:57:24,608 --> 00:57:25,908
Later it was renamed
1004
00:57:25,910 --> 00:57:28,143
the Farm Security Administration.
1005
00:57:28,145 --> 00:57:29,511
The FSA.
1006
00:57:29,513 --> 00:57:32,414
Paul Taylor was, of course,
very well connected
1007
00:57:32,416 --> 00:57:35,818
with all agricultural matters
in the federal government.
1008
00:57:35,820 --> 00:57:39,655
And he took her photographs
to Washington,
1009
00:57:39,657 --> 00:57:41,156
showed them to the new head
1010
00:57:41,158 --> 00:57:43,425
of this photographic unit,
Roy Stryker,
1011
00:57:43,427 --> 00:57:46,195
who hired her on the spot,
because he'd never seen
1012
00:57:46,197 --> 00:57:51,533
documentary photography
that had that kind
1013
00:57:51,535 --> 00:57:53,802
of emotional power.
1014
00:57:53,804 --> 00:57:58,140
Roy Stryker had a visionary photographic idea --
1015
00:57:58,142 --> 00:58:00,976
to introduce America to Americans.
1016
00:58:00,978 --> 00:58:03,712
MAN: Stryker saw in her
an incredible talent.
1017
00:58:03,714 --> 00:58:05,481
She was photographing a region
1018
00:58:05,483 --> 00:58:07,883
where he didn't have
any other photographers.
1019
00:58:07,885 --> 00:58:11,420
And she was a completely
independent spirit.
1020
00:58:11,422 --> 00:58:15,891
LANGE: The assignment was,
"See what you can bring home."
1021
00:58:15,893 --> 00:58:20,429
See what is really there.
1022
00:58:20,431 --> 00:58:22,130
What does it look like?
1023
00:58:22,132 --> 00:58:24,099
What does it
feel like?
1024
00:58:24,101 --> 00:58:27,402
What actually
is the human condition?
1025
00:58:27,404 --> 00:58:30,839
WOMAN: What she produced
was really stunning.
1026
00:58:30,841 --> 00:58:32,808
People were not accustomed
1027
00:58:32,810 --> 00:58:36,845
to seeing beautifully composed
photographs
1028
00:58:36,847 --> 00:58:41,049
of people who were working
in the dirt.
1029
00:58:41,051 --> 00:58:44,520
MAN: One of my favorite images
1030
00:58:44,522 --> 00:58:47,489
is the six Hardeman County
tenant farmers.
1031
00:58:47,491 --> 00:58:52,461
It's hard enough to take a good
portrait of one person.
1032
00:58:52,463 --> 00:58:54,029
To get six people
1033
00:58:54,031 --> 00:58:59,401
in a row, presenting themselves
to you as powerful people
1034
00:58:59,403 --> 00:59:02,971
who are nevertheless
in a state of distress,
1035
00:59:02,973 --> 00:59:05,240
that's a real accomplishment.
1036
00:59:15,286 --> 00:59:17,886
WOMAN: Lange was also
the only photographer
1037
00:59:17,888 --> 00:59:19,788
based on the West Coast.
1038
00:59:19,790 --> 00:59:23,759
The time it took for her to send
negatives to Washington
1039
00:59:23,761 --> 00:59:26,428
and then wait for them
to come back
1040
00:59:26,430 --> 00:59:29,064
so she could actually see
her work
1041
00:59:29,066 --> 00:59:30,432
was often months.
1042
00:59:36,574 --> 00:59:40,542
The trips were
absolutely grueling.
1043
00:59:40,544 --> 00:59:43,445
No air-conditioning, sleeping
in cheap motor courts.
1044
00:59:43,447 --> 00:59:45,781
She sometimes hired
Rondal Partridge
1045
00:59:45,783 --> 00:59:49,885
as an assistant
out of her own stipend,
1046
00:59:49,887 --> 00:59:53,288
since the federal government
wouldn't pay for that.
1047
00:59:53,290 --> 00:59:56,792
MAN: Ahh!
1048
00:59:56,794 --> 00:59:59,761
You'll love it.
You will love it.
1049
00:59:59,763 --> 01:00:01,530
Wait till you see it.
1050
01:00:01,532 --> 01:00:03,131
I will never forget
1051
01:00:03,133 --> 01:00:06,902
driving at about 19 miles
an hour down a country road,
1052
01:00:06,904 --> 01:00:09,137
and she said, "Ron, slower.
1053
01:00:09,139 --> 01:00:12,741
Slower.
Ron, drive slower."
1054
01:00:12,743 --> 01:00:15,510
Because she was looking
at every camp
1055
01:00:15,512 --> 01:00:17,779
and every pot
and every tent,
1056
01:00:17,781 --> 01:00:23,986
until she could find where
she could make her way.
1057
01:00:23,988 --> 01:00:26,855
Motels then
were called auto courts.
1058
01:00:26,857 --> 01:00:30,959
Welcome to Back Breaker's Acres.
1059
01:00:30,961 --> 01:00:34,863
I could have stayed here myself.
1060
01:00:34,865 --> 01:00:36,932
No insulation.
1061
01:00:36,934 --> 01:00:41,603
We holed up in motels that had
cracked linoleum floors
1062
01:00:41,605 --> 01:00:44,439
with piss marks
in the corner
1063
01:00:44,441 --> 01:00:48,977
because they wouldn't go out
to the bathroom that's outside.
1064
01:00:48,979 --> 01:00:50,879
That's the toilet.
1065
01:00:50,881 --> 01:00:55,417
We're living on $4 per day
per diem from the government.
1066
01:00:55,419 --> 01:00:57,452
We didn't feel deprived.
1067
01:00:57,454 --> 01:01:00,155
We just felt that we were
accomplishing something
1068
01:01:00,157 --> 01:01:04,526
and providing a service
that everybody needed.
1069
01:01:04,528 --> 01:01:07,863
The wonderful word that she said
was "gov'ment."
1070
01:01:07,865 --> 01:01:09,731
"We're from the gov'ment,
1071
01:01:09,733 --> 01:01:13,035
and we're interested in when
you're going to get work
1072
01:01:13,037 --> 01:01:15,904
or how you're going
to get by."
1073
01:01:15,906 --> 01:01:18,874
The photograph you have
to use of mine
1074
01:01:18,876 --> 01:01:21,810
is the little kid being
photographed at the camp.
1075
01:01:21,812 --> 01:01:23,245
And Dory's got a tripod
1076
01:01:23,247 --> 01:01:25,647
and the camera's on it and she's
using the Graflex.
1077
01:01:25,649 --> 01:01:28,350
But the tripod is the story.
1078
01:01:28,352 --> 01:01:31,053
She put up the tripod,
she got the kids there.
1079
01:01:31,055 --> 01:01:36,491
Then she takes the camera that's
flexible for getting the moment
1080
01:01:36,493 --> 01:01:38,760
and uses it.
1081
01:01:40,898 --> 01:01:46,068
I have an invisible coat
that covers me.
1082
01:01:46,070 --> 01:01:48,070
When I was a child,
1083
01:01:48,072 --> 01:01:52,541
I became acquainted
with the New York Bowery.
1084
01:01:52,543 --> 01:01:54,976
A lame little girl
1085
01:01:54,978 --> 01:01:57,879
walking down that street,
1086
01:01:57,881 --> 01:02:00,749
unprotected, was an ordeal.
1087
01:02:00,751 --> 01:02:05,253
And I learned to be unseen
at that age.
1088
01:02:05,255 --> 01:02:10,492
And that has stayed with me
all my working life.
1089
01:02:10,494 --> 01:02:13,562
Sometimes you just fool
around with the camera
1090
01:02:13,564 --> 01:02:16,264
or you sit on the steps
for a while
1091
01:02:16,266 --> 01:02:18,567
and enjoy
the afternoon air.
1092
01:02:18,569 --> 01:02:22,738
Before I ask questions,
I tell them
1093
01:02:22,740 --> 01:02:25,974
who I am,
1094
01:02:25,976 --> 01:02:27,642
why I am there,
1095
01:02:27,644 --> 01:02:30,645
how many children I have,
1096
01:02:30,647 --> 01:02:32,380
how old my children are.
1097
01:02:32,382 --> 01:02:34,983
I can then take out a notebook
1098
01:02:34,985 --> 01:02:38,787
and write down exactly
what I've been told
1099
01:02:38,789 --> 01:02:44,626
without ever feeling
that I am imposing.
1100
01:02:44,628 --> 01:02:47,429
MAN: She was very, very
conscious
1101
01:02:47,431 --> 01:02:50,398
of the exact words
that people said,
1102
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,100
and she would remember them
1103
01:02:52,102 --> 01:02:55,103
and suddenly break off
in the middle of shooting
1104
01:02:55,105 --> 01:02:58,140
and rush back to the car,
sit in the front seat,
1105
01:02:58,142 --> 01:03:00,075
and write down these notes.
1106
01:03:00,077 --> 01:03:02,010
The quote was probably
something --
1107
01:03:02,012 --> 01:03:03,612
"Well, it's root, hog, or die."
1108
01:03:03,614 --> 01:03:04,746
Race back to the car.
1109
01:03:04,748 --> 01:03:06,915
"It's root, hog, or die."
1110
01:03:06,917 --> 01:03:09,918
What a beautiful statement,
you know?
1111
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,655
How clear, how concise it is
to their condition.
1112
01:03:13,657 --> 01:03:17,993
You can see in my notebooks,
written at the time, lines,
1113
01:03:17,995 --> 01:03:20,762
excitement in getting it down
quickly while it still...
1114
01:03:20,764 --> 01:03:23,632
the rhythms of it is generally
what you have to get down.
1115
01:03:23,634 --> 01:03:29,171
"If I could get my hands
on an acre of land,
1116
01:03:29,173 --> 01:03:33,809
I'd take to digging it
with my fingers."
1117
01:03:33,811 --> 01:03:37,078
The tears come to my eyes,
it's so intense.
1118
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:38,680
Write it down.
1119
01:03:38,682 --> 01:03:44,319
She responded to her job in
the Farm Security Administration
1120
01:03:44,321 --> 01:03:48,056
with a great sense
of responsibility.
1121
01:03:48,058 --> 01:03:50,659
She corresponded regularly with
her boss, Roy Stryker,
1122
01:03:50,661 --> 01:03:55,497
who would send her requests for
certain types of photographs.
1123
01:03:55,499 --> 01:03:59,434
But she also was her own woman,
and she said later,
1124
01:03:59,436 --> 01:04:02,337
"You know, we were out
in the field
1125
01:04:02,339 --> 01:04:05,473
and sometimes you would find
things of importance
1126
01:04:05,475 --> 01:04:08,910
that no one knew about."
1127
01:04:08,912 --> 01:04:13,248
Driving north alone, after photographing for a few weeks,
1128
01:04:13,250 --> 01:04:14,816
my grandmother recalled --
1129
01:04:14,818 --> 01:04:18,620
"It was raining. The camera bags were packed.
1130
01:04:18,622 --> 01:04:22,157
And I had on the seat beside me the rolls of exposed film
1131
01:04:22,159 --> 01:04:25,260
ready to mail back to Washington.
1132
01:04:25,262 --> 01:04:28,296
A crude sign flashed by on the side of the road --
1133
01:04:28,298 --> 01:04:31,032
'Pea Pickers' Camp.'
1134
01:04:31,034 --> 01:04:33,568
I didn't want to stop, and didn't.
1135
01:04:33,570 --> 01:04:35,637
And then rose an inner argument.
1136
01:04:35,639 --> 01:04:38,173
'How about that camp back there?
1137
01:04:38,175 --> 01:04:40,141
Are you going back?'
1138
01:04:40,143 --> 01:04:42,577
Without realizing what I was doing,
1139
01:04:42,579 --> 01:04:45,046
I made a u-turn on the empty highway
1140
01:04:45,048 --> 01:04:47,816
and, following instinct, not reason,
1141
01:04:47,818 --> 01:04:50,886
I drove into that wet and soggy camp,
1142
01:04:50,888 --> 01:04:53,021
like a homing pigeon.
1143
01:04:53,023 --> 01:04:55,891
The pea crop at Nipomo had frozen,
1144
01:04:55,893 --> 01:04:58,760
and there was no work for anyone.
1145
01:05:00,530 --> 01:05:06,234
I saw and approached the hungry and desperate mother."
1146
01:05:08,739 --> 01:05:12,274
MAN: For many years,
the standard interpretation was
1147
01:05:12,276 --> 01:05:14,075
that she made five images.
1148
01:05:14,077 --> 01:05:17,078
Then a sixth image
was discovered.
1149
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,447
And then a seventh image
was discovered.
1150
01:05:33,096 --> 01:05:35,964
She ended up, at the end
of that whole sequence,
1151
01:05:35,966 --> 01:05:38,600
with a masterpiece
of photography.
1152
01:05:44,007 --> 01:05:47,142
The career of that photograph
is extraordinary.
1153
01:05:47,144 --> 01:05:50,078
It was published
in a local paper.
1154
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,080
Immediately, donations
of money
1155
01:05:52,082 --> 01:05:54,249
poured into
the pea pickers' camp.
1156
01:05:54,251 --> 01:05:55,684
Stryker thought, "This is
1157
01:05:55,686 --> 01:05:58,086
the greatest photograph
we have produced."
1158
01:05:58,088 --> 01:06:00,555
It was published all over
the country
1159
01:06:00,557 --> 01:06:03,792
in newspapers, magazines,
used over and over again.
1160
01:06:03,794 --> 01:06:06,561
WOMAN: I believe that there was
one Chicano poster,
1161
01:06:06,563 --> 01:06:08,029
a Cuban poster,
1162
01:06:08,031 --> 01:06:10,598
and certainly the Panthers
as well used it.
1163
01:06:15,973 --> 01:06:18,707
It has enough
modernity to it
1164
01:06:18,709 --> 01:06:21,076
and speaks to a condition
1165
01:06:21,078 --> 01:06:25,347
of modern disintegration
of families as well.
1166
01:06:25,349 --> 01:06:29,284
MAN: It's probably the most
recognized photograph
1167
01:06:29,286 --> 01:06:32,354
in American history.
1168
01:06:32,356 --> 01:06:34,823
LANGE:
I see it printed all over,
1169
01:06:34,825 --> 01:06:36,958
prints that I haven't supplied.
1170
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,395
It doesn't belong to me anymore.
It belongs to the world.
1171
01:06:40,397 --> 01:06:45,066
She, that one picture, belongs
to the public, really.
1172
01:06:45,068 --> 01:06:49,070
Florence Thompson was the woman in the photograph.
1173
01:06:49,072 --> 01:06:51,639
In 1958, Florence and her family
1174
01:06:51,641 --> 01:06:55,276
came across the image in the magazine U.S. Camera.
1175
01:06:55,278 --> 01:06:58,580
They resented the notoriety and liberal use of the photo
1176
01:06:58,582 --> 01:07:01,116
for which they had seen no remuneration.
1177
01:07:01,118 --> 01:07:02,751
But neither had Dorothea.
1178
01:07:02,753 --> 01:07:04,853
However, late in Florence's life,
1179
01:07:04,855 --> 01:07:06,287
donations poured in
1180
01:07:06,289 --> 01:07:08,023
when a sympathetic public
1181
01:07:08,025 --> 01:07:09,858
learned of her terminal illness.
1182
01:07:09,860 --> 01:07:13,995
MAN: She realized how important
that image was
1183
01:07:13,997 --> 01:07:16,398
and what it meant to people
1184
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:17,599
and its importance
1185
01:07:17,601 --> 01:07:20,368
to our understanding
of the Great Depression.
1186
01:07:20,370 --> 01:07:23,571
Florence Thompson's headstone reads,
1187
01:07:23,573 --> 01:07:25,040
"Migrant Mother:
1188
01:07:25,042 --> 01:07:29,077
a legend of the strength of American motherhood."
1189
01:07:35,852 --> 01:07:38,053
My grandfather continued to fight
1190
01:07:38,055 --> 01:07:41,890
for FSA-built worker camps to alleviate the appalling
1191
01:07:41,892 --> 01:07:45,226
living conditions of migratory laborers.
1192
01:07:47,931 --> 01:07:50,665
Repeatedly rejected, he sent Washington
1193
01:07:50,667 --> 01:07:53,968
another series of reports he and Dorothea created
1194
01:07:53,970 --> 01:07:57,605
in efforts to gain funding for the housing he felt
1195
01:07:57,607 --> 01:07:59,908
would improve their lives.
1196
01:07:59,910 --> 01:08:02,310
Although his vision had been far greater,
1197
01:08:02,312 --> 01:08:05,880
his persistence saw 15 camps and 3 mobile camps
1198
01:08:05,882 --> 01:08:09,617
built in California.
1199
01:08:09,619 --> 01:08:13,188
LANGE: Tom Collins,
camp manager.
1200
01:08:13,190 --> 01:08:15,824
Intensely close
to the people.
1201
01:08:15,826 --> 01:08:19,227
When he hoisted the
American flag every morning
1202
01:08:19,229 --> 01:08:22,730
over that camp,
it was his camp,
1203
01:08:22,732 --> 01:08:25,967
and he protected it
from the outside world
1204
01:08:25,969 --> 01:08:28,303
and he just was master.
1205
01:08:28,305 --> 01:08:32,340
And John Steinbeck somehow
or other encountered him.
1206
01:08:32,342 --> 01:08:35,477
And Tom Collins is a big figure
in the book.
1207
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:40,181
Tom is that camp manager
in "The Grapes of Wrath."
1208
01:08:40,183 --> 01:08:43,852
WOMAN: One of the most memorable
Depression images
1209
01:08:43,854 --> 01:08:47,055
is of two people walking
on the road
1210
01:08:47,057 --> 01:08:50,091
with a big billboard
for the railroad,
1211
01:08:50,093 --> 01:08:51,593
suggesting the gap
1212
01:08:51,595 --> 01:08:54,429
between affluence
and complacency.
1213
01:08:58,502 --> 01:08:59,834
Look again.
1214
01:08:59,836 --> 01:09:03,705
Look underneath the ad,
and you will see the reality
1215
01:09:03,707 --> 01:09:06,474
of what's being experienced
in the Depression.
1216
01:09:19,289 --> 01:09:20,955
Maybe the best one
1217
01:09:20,957 --> 01:09:23,625
is the one of a gas station
near Salinas.
1218
01:09:23,627 --> 01:09:25,593
"Air -- This is your country.
1219
01:09:25,595 --> 01:09:28,296
Don't let them take it
away from you."
1220
01:09:28,298 --> 01:09:31,900
I think of that every time
I'm at a gas station
1221
01:09:31,902 --> 01:09:35,103
and now see that we have to
pay for air.
1222
01:09:37,307 --> 01:09:40,141
WOMAN: Every summer,
through 1939,
1223
01:09:40,143 --> 01:09:42,010
Paul and Dorothea drove
1224
01:09:42,012 --> 01:09:45,146
all the way across the country
to the southeastern states.
1225
01:09:47,784 --> 01:09:51,052
She and Taylor were very keen
1226
01:09:51,054 --> 01:09:54,355
to discover how our society,
1227
01:09:54,357 --> 01:09:57,926
which had developed
a mythology about farming,
1228
01:09:57,928 --> 01:10:01,362
was in the process
of radical change.
1229
01:10:01,364 --> 01:10:04,432
After slavery was ended,
1230
01:10:04,434 --> 01:10:08,002
the South developed a system
called sharecropping,
1231
01:10:08,004 --> 01:10:09,537
which means that you give
1232
01:10:09,539 --> 01:10:11,706
the owner of the land
a share of the crop.
1233
01:10:11,708 --> 01:10:14,609
The overwhelming majority
of the sharecroppers --
1234
01:10:14,611 --> 01:10:17,212
who were both
white and black --
1235
01:10:17,214 --> 01:10:20,114
were heavily indebted
to a plantation owner.
1236
01:10:20,116 --> 01:10:24,285
Lange took a picture of power
and power relationships
1237
01:10:24,287 --> 01:10:25,687
and subservience.
1238
01:10:25,689 --> 01:10:27,455
WOMAN: A plantation owner
1239
01:10:27,457 --> 01:10:30,592
standing in a very kind of
aggressive posture.
1240
01:10:30,594 --> 01:10:33,795
You can see that on the left
edge of the picture
1241
01:10:33,797 --> 01:10:37,065
is a little bit of Paul Taylor,
who is helping her
1242
01:10:37,067 --> 01:10:38,800
by conversing with this guy
1243
01:10:38,802 --> 01:10:41,936
so that he's willing
to keep standing there.
1244
01:10:41,938 --> 01:10:45,473
But behind him,
sitting on the steps,
1245
01:10:45,475 --> 01:10:47,575
are his sharecroppers.
1246
01:10:47,577 --> 01:10:52,380
The spatial relations reflect
the power relations
1247
01:10:52,382 --> 01:10:54,882
of the society.
1248
01:10:54,884 --> 01:10:57,752
"They're fixin' to free
all us fellas.
1249
01:10:57,754 --> 01:10:59,721
Free as for what?
1250
01:10:59,723 --> 01:11:01,956
Free as like they freed
the mules.
1251
01:11:01,958 --> 01:11:06,127
They're aimin' at keepin'
fellas such as us
1252
01:11:06,129 --> 01:11:08,630
right down to their knees.
1253
01:11:08,632 --> 01:11:12,100
Aimin' at makin' slaves of us.
1254
01:11:12,102 --> 01:11:14,035
We got no more chance
1255
01:11:14,037 --> 01:11:17,572
than a one-legged man
in a foot race."
1256
01:11:17,574 --> 01:11:22,143
WOMAN: It's very important for
them to be photographing
1257
01:11:22,145 --> 01:11:23,778
the terrible poverty,
1258
01:11:23,780 --> 01:11:27,415
but also the sustaining role
of those communities
1259
01:11:27,417 --> 01:11:30,118
and the cultural richness
that she found there.
1260
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,754
There's a picture, for instance,
1261
01:11:32,756 --> 01:11:35,757
of a very ancient black
graveyard
1262
01:11:35,759 --> 01:11:39,527
swept as though it was
an African graveyard.
1263
01:11:39,529 --> 01:11:44,499
Those kinds of touches were
important to both of them.
1264
01:11:44,501 --> 01:11:48,169
There's this wonderful picture
of the water boy
1265
01:11:48,171 --> 01:11:50,271
who is so proud of his job.
1266
01:11:50,273 --> 01:11:54,475
He had a role there,
and she saw that.
1267
01:11:54,477 --> 01:11:57,612
She saw him
in his stature.
1268
01:11:57,614 --> 01:12:00,615
She said that these communities
were rooted in the earth,
1269
01:12:00,617 --> 01:12:04,319
like a tree, like something that
was embracing.
1270
01:12:04,321 --> 01:12:07,622
LANGE: You want to see
a beautiful negative...
1271
01:12:07,624 --> 01:12:10,725
just for the fun of looking
at a beautiful negative?
1272
01:12:10,727 --> 01:12:12,694
This is a beautiful negative.
1273
01:12:15,198 --> 01:12:16,764
MAN: It sure is.
1274
01:12:16,766 --> 01:12:18,900
LANGE: Isn't that lovely
to look at?
1275
01:12:18,902 --> 01:12:20,768
If you're a photographer,
1276
01:12:20,770 --> 01:12:23,371
what pleasure
a nice negative is.
1277
01:12:23,373 --> 01:12:25,506
Oh, my, yes.
1278
01:12:25,508 --> 01:12:27,575
Oh, my.
1279
01:12:29,379 --> 01:12:32,880
WOMAN: Lange's method
to combat the racism
1280
01:12:32,882 --> 01:12:35,216
that she saw
in the South
1281
01:12:35,218 --> 01:12:38,252
was to create
these portraits.
1282
01:13:01,111 --> 01:13:03,945
She didn't beg people
to smile.
1283
01:13:03,947 --> 01:13:06,848
She often conversed
with people,
1284
01:13:06,850 --> 01:13:09,283
or, if she was lucky enough
to have Paul with her,
1285
01:13:09,285 --> 01:13:11,085
she got him
to converse with people
1286
01:13:11,087 --> 01:13:13,154
so people relaxed.
1287
01:13:13,156 --> 01:13:16,524
Through conversation,
you could see their animation.
1288
01:13:16,526 --> 01:13:20,361
These were
solid citizens.
1289
01:13:29,339 --> 01:13:33,241
Dorothea's job for the FSA was on again, off again,
1290
01:13:33,243 --> 01:13:38,980
laid off, and then rehired by Stryker.
1291
01:13:38,982 --> 01:13:42,150
But even when not collecting a salary,
1292
01:13:42,152 --> 01:13:45,486
she continued to add to her body of work.
1293
01:13:45,488 --> 01:13:51,125
In the end, she had photographed in over 30 states.
1294
01:13:51,127 --> 01:13:56,564
Finally, in January of 1940, Stryker let her go for good.
1295
01:13:56,566 --> 01:13:58,399
His FSA budget had been cut
1296
01:13:58,401 --> 01:14:02,170
and his photographic unit was down to two photographers.
1297
01:14:02,172 --> 01:14:04,705
It was a tough loss.
1298
01:14:04,707 --> 01:14:08,376
She had lost the sense that
what she would make
1299
01:14:08,378 --> 01:14:12,079
would appear in a variety
of national contexts.
1300
01:14:12,081 --> 01:14:15,183
She never enjoyed that
so fully again.
1301
01:14:15,185 --> 01:14:20,488
Later, in a letter written to Stryker, Dorothea wrote --
1302
01:14:20,490 --> 01:14:24,425
"Once an FSA guy, always an FSA guy.
1303
01:14:24,427 --> 01:14:27,895
One doesn't easily get over it."
1304
01:14:27,897 --> 01:14:29,597
Lange and Taylor
1305
01:14:29,599 --> 01:14:32,533
tried to condense it all
into "American Exodus,"
1306
01:14:32,535 --> 01:14:36,771
this huge population shift
and its consequences.
1307
01:14:36,773 --> 01:14:40,141
WOMAN: As the soil erodes,
so does society.
1308
01:14:40,143 --> 01:14:41,843
That becomes the book
1309
01:14:41,845 --> 01:14:43,311
"American Exodus:
1310
01:14:43,313 --> 01:14:45,413
A Record of Human Erosion."
1311
01:14:45,415 --> 01:14:46,814
Lange and Taylor
1312
01:14:46,816 --> 01:14:51,052
were creating a conscience
that the country needed.
1313
01:14:51,054 --> 01:14:52,820
An American conscience.
1314
01:14:52,822 --> 01:14:54,655
They rented an apartment
1315
01:14:54,657 --> 01:14:57,625
around the corner from
their house in Berkeley,
1316
01:14:57,627 --> 01:15:01,896
with no furniture and basically
using the floor as her layout
1317
01:15:01,898 --> 01:15:05,733
for the images, and going there
day after day
1318
01:15:05,735 --> 01:15:07,602
and shuffling the images
back and forth.
1319
01:15:07,604 --> 01:15:09,971
WOMAN: And then coming back
and adding captions.
1320
01:15:09,973 --> 01:15:12,974
The photographs themselves
carry the story.
1321
01:15:12,976 --> 01:15:15,543
The captions extend
1322
01:15:15,545 --> 01:15:18,346
and enrich the story.
1323
01:15:18,348 --> 01:15:22,817
"I seen our corn dry up
and blow over the fence
1324
01:15:22,819 --> 01:15:25,319
back there in Oklahoma."
1325
01:15:25,321 --> 01:15:30,091
"Lots of 'em toughed it through,
until this year."
1326
01:15:30,093 --> 01:15:32,894
"What bothers us
travelin' people most
1327
01:15:32,896 --> 01:15:35,897
is we can't get no place
to stand still."
1328
01:15:35,899 --> 01:15:38,533
WOMAN: One chapter
on the Dust Bowl
1329
01:15:38,535 --> 01:15:41,202
is punctuated at the end
1330
01:15:41,204 --> 01:15:44,272
by, on one page,
a windmill that's battered,
1331
01:15:44,274 --> 01:15:45,540
and on the other,
1332
01:15:45,542 --> 01:15:48,342
a woman, her hand to her head
1333
01:15:48,344 --> 01:15:51,245
and her elbow jutting out
like the windmill.
1334
01:15:51,247 --> 01:15:53,681
And you see these
two photographs together
1335
01:15:53,683 --> 01:15:56,617
and you realize that one
is a metaphor for the other.
1336
01:15:56,619 --> 01:15:58,753
Lange said about
pairing photographs
1337
01:15:58,755 --> 01:16:02,089
that sometimes they're balanced.
1338
01:16:02,091 --> 01:16:06,193
Sometimes one is subservient
to the other.
1339
01:16:06,195 --> 01:16:07,828
"Sometimes," she said,
1340
01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:12,266
"they come together
and they make a loud noise."
1341
01:16:13,570 --> 01:16:16,804
"American Exodus" is one
of the most important
1342
01:16:16,806 --> 01:16:19,640
photographic books
of the 20th century.
1343
01:16:19,642 --> 01:16:22,343
It was very influential.
1344
01:16:22,345 --> 01:16:24,478
Life magazine, Look magazine
1345
01:16:24,480 --> 01:16:29,050
were just getting going
at the time, and then
1346
01:16:29,052 --> 01:16:32,820
"American Exodus" just
turned things upside down.
1347
01:16:32,822 --> 01:16:36,958
Oh, the end pages
are extraordinary!
1348
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,094
The book itself
is embraced by,
1349
01:16:40,096 --> 01:16:43,664
is enclosed by
the words of the people.
1350
01:16:43,666 --> 01:16:47,401
Lange and Taylor thought
it was absolutely critical
1351
01:16:47,403 --> 01:16:49,303
to reproduce the words
1352
01:16:49,305 --> 01:16:52,506
as they wrote them down
on the spot.
1353
01:16:52,508 --> 01:16:54,375
MAN: "I come from Texas
1354
01:16:54,377 --> 01:16:57,645
and I don't owe
a thin dime back there."
1355
01:16:57,647 --> 01:17:01,148
"Brother is picking
75-cent cotton, they starved,"
1356
01:17:01,150 --> 01:17:04,085
and I watched her
write that one down.
1357
01:17:04,087 --> 01:17:07,688
"Blowed out, eat out,
tractored out."
1358
01:17:07,690 --> 01:17:12,927
"Yessir, we're starved,
stalled and straranded."
1359
01:17:12,929 --> 01:17:15,262
Whew!
1360
01:17:15,264 --> 01:17:17,264
"Starved..."
1361
01:17:17,266 --> 01:17:18,465
Oooh!
1362
01:17:18,467 --> 01:17:20,534
LANGE: Is it in here?
1363
01:17:20,536 --> 01:17:22,570
MAN: It's not in here.
1364
01:17:22,572 --> 01:17:25,105
Wait a minute,
it's in the end paper.
1365
01:17:25,107 --> 01:17:26,140
There it is.
1366
01:17:26,142 --> 01:17:29,043
"An Arkansas family
in California.
1367
01:17:29,045 --> 01:17:30,444
Son to father --
1368
01:17:30,446 --> 01:17:33,747
'You didn't know the world
was so wide.'
1369
01:17:33,749 --> 01:17:35,482
Father to son --
'No, but I knew
1370
01:17:35,484 --> 01:17:37,585
what I was going to have
for breakfast."
1371
01:17:37,587 --> 01:17:42,222
"One mule, single plow.
1372
01:17:42,224 --> 01:17:46,060
Tractors are against
the black man.
1373
01:17:46,062 --> 01:17:50,464
Every time you kill a mule,
you kill a black man.
1374
01:17:50,466 --> 01:17:53,334
You've heard about
the machine picker?
1375
01:17:53,336 --> 01:17:55,970
That's against
the black man, too.
1376
01:17:55,972 --> 01:17:58,005
A piece of meat in the house
1377
01:17:58,007 --> 01:18:01,775
would like to scare these
children of mine to death.
1378
01:18:01,777 --> 01:18:05,980
These things are a-pressin'
on us
1379
01:18:05,982 --> 01:18:08,983
in the state of Mississippi.
1380
01:18:08,985 --> 01:18:12,453
If you die, you're dead,
that's all."
1381
01:18:12,455 --> 01:18:16,090
That's all.
1382
01:18:16,092 --> 01:18:17,324
The irony
1383
01:18:17,326 --> 01:18:19,827
for my grandparents was
1384
01:18:19,829 --> 01:18:21,662
that "American Exodus"
was published
1385
01:18:21,664 --> 01:18:24,264
just as World War II broke out
in Europe.
1386
01:18:24,266 --> 01:18:25,866
MAN: It didn't sell.
1387
01:18:25,868 --> 01:18:30,070
World events eclipsed
"American Exodus."
1388
01:18:35,678 --> 01:18:38,512
Manzanar.
1389
01:18:38,514 --> 01:18:42,483
A place my grandmother came to know.
1390
01:18:42,485 --> 01:18:47,488
She said, "On the surface, it looked like a narrow job.
1391
01:18:47,490 --> 01:18:51,392
It had a sharp beginning and a sharp end.
1392
01:18:51,394 --> 01:18:55,162
Everything about it was highly concentrated.
1393
01:18:55,164 --> 01:18:57,564
Actually, it wasn't narrow at all.
1394
01:18:57,566 --> 01:18:59,199
The deeper I got into it,
1395
01:18:59,201 --> 01:19:01,568
the bigger it became."
1396
01:19:05,574 --> 01:19:07,808
In the winter of 1941,
1397
01:19:07,810 --> 01:19:11,945
Japan shocked the world when it bombed Pearl Harbor.
1398
01:19:11,947 --> 01:19:15,816
Nationwide, fear surfaced against the Japanese
1399
01:19:15,818 --> 01:19:19,186
and President Roosevelt took swift action.
1400
01:19:19,188 --> 01:19:22,756
LANGE: This is what we did.
1401
01:19:22,758 --> 01:19:25,325
How did it happen?
1402
01:19:25,327 --> 01:19:28,562
How could we?
1403
01:19:28,564 --> 01:19:31,899
Now, I have never had
a comfortable feeling
1404
01:19:31,901 --> 01:19:34,168
about that war relocation job.
1405
01:19:34,170 --> 01:19:37,938
The difficulties of doing it
were immense.
1406
01:19:37,940 --> 01:19:42,576
The billboards that were up
at the time, I photographed.
1407
01:19:42,578 --> 01:19:46,346
Savage,
savage billboards.
1408
01:19:46,348 --> 01:19:51,251
MAN: The American public needed
to know about this chapter.
1409
01:19:51,253 --> 01:19:54,688
The whole relocation
was known, really,
1410
01:19:54,690 --> 01:19:59,660
to a small number of people
on the West Coast.
1411
01:20:02,131 --> 01:20:06,066
Executive order 9066, signed
by Franklin Roosevelt,
1412
01:20:06,068 --> 01:20:09,970
was a very antiseptic-sounding
process to remove
1413
01:20:09,972 --> 01:20:13,307
Japanese-American citizens
from their homes
1414
01:20:13,309 --> 01:20:16,310
in California,
Washington, and Oregon.
1415
01:20:16,312 --> 01:20:20,714
Ripping people off the land
because of what they look like.
1416
01:20:20,716 --> 01:20:24,284
My grandparents were enraged by the racist hysteria
1417
01:20:24,286 --> 01:20:27,254
and loss of family friends.
1418
01:20:27,256 --> 01:20:28,922
Everything's taken away
from them --
1419
01:20:28,924 --> 01:20:30,491
their business,
their livelihood.
1420
01:20:30,493 --> 01:20:33,160
You can see they're still proud,
though, the people.
1421
01:20:33,162 --> 01:20:34,928
They're very proud
and dignified
1422
01:20:34,930 --> 01:20:37,030
during this tragic moment
in their life
1423
01:20:37,032 --> 01:20:39,066
where everything's
turned upside down.
1424
01:20:39,068 --> 01:20:41,502
There's a picture that
Dorothea Lange shot
1425
01:20:41,504 --> 01:20:43,871
of my grandparents
and my dad and my aunt
1426
01:20:43,873 --> 01:20:47,007
after they left their homes
to go to the internment camp.
1427
01:20:47,009 --> 01:20:50,077
The military didn't know
anything about Dorothea,
1428
01:20:50,079 --> 01:20:51,478
essentially.
1429
01:20:51,480 --> 01:20:53,213
They were looking for
a photographer,
1430
01:20:53,215 --> 01:20:55,182
and here was someone who was
in California.
1431
01:20:55,184 --> 01:20:57,251
She'd already worked
for the government
1432
01:20:57,253 --> 01:20:58,852
and had a reputation as being
1433
01:20:58,854 --> 01:21:01,421
a very hardworking,
responsible photographer.
1434
01:21:01,423 --> 01:21:03,857
What the military wanted
from her
1435
01:21:03,859 --> 01:21:06,593
was a set of photographs
to illustrate
1436
01:21:06,595 --> 01:21:09,563
that they weren't persecuting
or torturing
1437
01:21:09,565 --> 01:21:11,999
these people who they
evacuated.
1438
01:21:14,970 --> 01:21:18,172
With some misgivings, Dorothea took the job,
1439
01:21:18,174 --> 01:21:21,875
hoping to expose what the government was doing
1440
01:21:21,877 --> 01:21:24,044
to its own citizens.
1441
01:21:24,046 --> 01:21:27,381
Christina Clausen, once Dorothea's portrait subject,
1442
01:21:27,383 --> 01:21:29,483
had become a family friend.
1443
01:21:29,485 --> 01:21:32,386
She offered to be Dorothea's assistant.
1444
01:21:32,388 --> 01:21:35,155
I immediately began
working with her,
1445
01:21:35,157 --> 01:21:38,692
because it was an intense
pressure to get going.
1446
01:21:38,694 --> 01:21:43,697
This internment
was a military action.
1447
01:21:43,699 --> 01:21:48,836
It involved rounding up
120,000 people immediately.
1448
01:21:48,838 --> 01:21:52,840
This was only happening
in scattered spots
1449
01:21:52,842 --> 01:21:54,775
all along the West Coast.
1450
01:21:54,777 --> 01:21:56,510
It was very hush-hush.
1451
01:21:56,512 --> 01:21:59,179
The papers barely mentioned it.
1452
01:21:59,181 --> 01:22:03,183
The public didn't realize
what was going on.
1453
01:22:08,991 --> 01:22:12,492
They were ripped
out of their homes
1454
01:22:12,494 --> 01:22:15,529
and it was so hard
to photograph that.
1455
01:22:15,531 --> 01:22:20,767
It was so hard because
those people were stoic.
1456
01:22:20,769 --> 01:22:24,504
They were told that,
"You go like we tell you to.
1457
01:22:24,506 --> 01:22:27,074
It's part of fighting
the war."
1458
01:22:27,076 --> 01:22:30,344
And they went,
they went quietly.
1459
01:22:30,346 --> 01:22:33,614
They were not crying.
1460
01:22:33,616 --> 01:22:36,416
They were...
1461
01:22:36,418 --> 01:22:38,385
they were being
good citizens.
1462
01:22:41,957 --> 01:22:45,893
Dorothea and Christina spent weeks
1463
01:22:45,895 --> 01:22:49,296
witnessing Japanese-Americans losing everything they knew.
1464
01:22:49,298 --> 01:22:52,299
Pets, gardens,
1465
01:22:52,301 --> 01:22:54,902
livelihoods.
1466
01:22:54,904 --> 01:22:57,437
Their homes.
1467
01:23:07,349 --> 01:23:10,651
Every person had a tag
with a number.
1468
01:23:10,653 --> 01:23:16,556
The head of the family
might be 10351-A.
1469
01:23:16,558 --> 01:23:19,459
MAN: The patriarch would be A,
1470
01:23:19,461 --> 01:23:21,261
and then the mother would be B,
1471
01:23:21,263 --> 01:23:24,298
and then the children by age,
you know, C, D, E, F,
1472
01:23:24,300 --> 01:23:26,433
depending on how many
children there were.
1473
01:23:26,435 --> 01:23:29,369
Can you imagine having
a paper tag
1474
01:23:29,371 --> 01:23:33,240
with your number on it,
that's who you are now?
1475
01:23:40,449 --> 01:23:42,082
Most of the internees
1476
01:23:42,084 --> 01:23:44,117
were second generation
Japanese-Americans.
1477
01:23:44,119 --> 01:23:46,620
They were American citizens,
and there they are having
1478
01:23:46,622 --> 01:23:48,822
their citizenship rights
taken away from them.
1479
01:23:48,824 --> 01:23:52,993
You had thousands of young
Japanese-American men
1480
01:23:52,995 --> 01:23:55,028
who were fighting
in the military.
1481
01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:58,598
One of Dorothea Lange's
early photographs was
1482
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:02,970
of a young soldier who got
a furlough to come home
1483
01:24:02,972 --> 01:24:06,006
to help his lone mother
pack up.
1484
01:24:06,008 --> 01:24:09,910
MAN: My dad went in the service
and my two uncles were drafted
1485
01:24:09,912 --> 01:24:13,280
so they went into the Army,
fighting in Italy and France,
1486
01:24:13,282 --> 01:24:15,782
for America.
1487
01:24:15,784 --> 01:24:18,318
[Whistle blows]
1488
01:24:21,023 --> 01:24:26,860
We had witnessed that evacuation
by train from Woodland.
1489
01:24:41,643 --> 01:24:44,544
And it was too far away
from Berkeley to get home,
1490
01:24:44,546 --> 01:24:47,714
and we stayed in a hotel
that night.
1491
01:24:47,716 --> 01:24:49,116
I went down to the lobby
1492
01:24:49,118 --> 01:24:51,351
with Paul's little portable
typewriter
1493
01:24:51,353 --> 01:24:52,986
and was typing up some stuff,
1494
01:24:52,988 --> 01:24:55,088
and when I went back
to the room...
1495
01:24:55,090 --> 01:25:00,460
she was in a paroxysm
of anxiety.
1496
01:25:00,462 --> 01:25:03,430
I can remember very well
what she said.
1497
01:25:03,432 --> 01:25:06,400
"Oh, I have such
a belly ache."
1498
01:25:06,402 --> 01:25:08,735
She was terrorized.
1499
01:25:08,737 --> 01:25:14,741
It was the tearing up of their
homes that really got to her.
1500
01:25:22,451 --> 01:25:26,820
People were being moved
to permanent camps.
1501
01:25:26,822 --> 01:25:31,091
And the first permanent camp
was Manzanar.
1502
01:25:31,093 --> 01:25:34,494
In the desert,
pretty far to the east,
1503
01:25:34,496 --> 01:25:36,196
and far from Berkeley.
1504
01:25:36,198 --> 01:25:38,432
MAN: It's called
"internment camps."
1505
01:25:38,434 --> 01:25:41,468
I guess, government-wise,
that's what they call it,
1506
01:25:41,470 --> 01:25:43,136
but it's really like
a prison camp
1507
01:25:43,138 --> 01:25:44,938
behind barbed-wire fence
with guards.
1508
01:25:46,909 --> 01:25:50,544
The buildings at Manzanar
were long barracks
1509
01:25:50,546 --> 01:25:54,481
that had from 7 to 12 units
in each one.
1510
01:25:54,483 --> 01:25:55,849
No insulation.
1511
01:25:57,553 --> 01:26:03,056
In the heat of the summer,
you get temperatures like 120.
1512
01:26:03,058 --> 01:26:08,361
But in the cold of the winter,
it is absolutely freezing.
1513
01:26:09,965 --> 01:26:12,432
The camps are, of course,
guarded.
1514
01:26:12,434 --> 01:26:15,168
And there are military police
all over.
1515
01:26:15,170 --> 01:26:18,472
They wouldn't allow her
to photograph the armed guards
1516
01:26:18,474 --> 01:26:21,408
or the watchtowers.
1517
01:26:21,410 --> 01:26:24,478
She was repeatedly asked
to show her credentials.
1518
01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:28,615
MAN: She was often followed
around by a censer.
1519
01:26:28,617 --> 01:26:31,651
She photographs
in the nursery sheds
1520
01:26:31,653 --> 01:26:35,422
under lighting
filtered through slats,
1521
01:26:35,424 --> 01:26:38,458
making it look like
they were behind bars,
1522
01:26:38,460 --> 01:26:42,229
an image that one of
the censers found so offensive
1523
01:26:42,231 --> 01:26:44,898
that he would not
release it.
1524
01:26:44,900 --> 01:26:47,868
WOMAN: This was a woman
who was not willing
1525
01:26:47,870 --> 01:26:50,403
to photograph
just what they told her.
1526
01:26:50,405 --> 01:26:52,038
When the higher-ups
really took
1527
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:55,308
a serious look at these
photographs, they fired her.
1528
01:26:55,310 --> 01:26:59,613
After they fired her,
the U.S. military impounded
1529
01:26:59,615 --> 01:27:03,783
the photographs
and would not release them.
1530
01:27:03,785 --> 01:27:06,920
They really didn't see the light
of day for many years.
1531
01:27:13,795 --> 01:27:17,130
Dorothea hung on
as long as she could
1532
01:27:17,132 --> 01:27:20,400
and was relieved
when she was fired.
1533
01:27:20,402 --> 01:27:22,502
She wrote in her journal,
1534
01:27:22,504 --> 01:27:25,505
"World in agony,
much energy lost.
1535
01:27:25,507 --> 01:27:28,408
Some work accomplished.
1536
01:27:28,410 --> 01:27:31,278
Paul, my haven, my love,
my anchor,
1537
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:33,980
making lists
and cleaning house.
1538
01:27:33,982 --> 01:27:39,719
Feel inferior, and am."
1539
01:27:39,721 --> 01:27:43,490
WOMAN: The intensity of
the work with the Japanese
1540
01:27:43,492 --> 01:27:46,927
was probably the beginning
of her ulcers.
1541
01:27:46,929 --> 01:27:49,696
During the war,
Dorothea and Paul
1542
01:27:49,698 --> 01:27:52,933
were living on the bend
of Euclid Avenue
1543
01:27:52,935 --> 01:27:54,901
in a beautiful old house,
1544
01:27:54,903 --> 01:27:57,571
brown-shingled
and wonderful.
1545
01:27:57,573 --> 01:28:00,540
Wonderful oak trees,
which Dorothea loved.
1546
01:28:00,542 --> 01:28:05,579
And they had built Dory
a studio in the backyard.
1547
01:28:05,581 --> 01:28:09,416
A short descent down a mossy brick path
1548
01:28:09,418 --> 01:28:11,418
from the main house,
1549
01:28:11,420 --> 01:28:15,555
the studio was spare, illuminated by soft north light
1550
01:28:15,557 --> 01:28:17,357
from slanting windows.
1551
01:28:17,359 --> 01:28:20,093
A haven for Dorothea.
1552
01:28:20,095 --> 01:28:22,596
She kept it simple and uncluttered,
1553
01:28:22,598 --> 01:28:24,998
keeping only what was essential
1554
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,634
to the process of her photography,
1555
01:28:27,636 --> 01:28:30,437
including a darkroom.
1556
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:34,441
The oaks embrace that studio.
1557
01:28:34,443 --> 01:28:38,245
She felt kindred to those trees,
1558
01:28:38,247 --> 01:28:41,481
claimed the trees and she were the same age
1559
01:28:41,483 --> 01:28:44,084
and that they understood her.
1560
01:28:46,521 --> 01:28:50,890
LANGE: I have photographs of
the trees that I live with here.
1561
01:28:50,892 --> 01:28:53,627
The photographs
are in different moods.
1562
01:28:53,629 --> 01:28:55,495
I will perhaps
use three
1563
01:28:55,497 --> 01:29:00,400
of the life
of those trees.
1564
01:29:00,402 --> 01:29:05,839
Dark and deep
and troubled.
1565
01:29:09,544 --> 01:29:13,113
WOMAN: There was no mistaking
that it was Dorothea's house.
1566
01:29:13,115 --> 01:29:16,549
She was very particular about
all of her belongings
1567
01:29:16,551 --> 01:29:18,418
and about where things went.
1568
01:29:18,420 --> 01:29:19,919
So I learned
1569
01:29:19,921 --> 01:29:24,024
an enormous amount from her
about how to create a space.
1570
01:29:24,026 --> 01:29:26,393
I made a comment about
something,
1571
01:29:26,395 --> 01:29:29,296
and she said, "Oh, Margot,
I was wondering
1572
01:29:29,298 --> 01:29:31,331
when you were going
to learn to see."
1573
01:29:31,333 --> 01:29:33,133
LANGE: Where is the tea,
Margot?
1574
01:29:33,135 --> 01:29:34,901
Is it cut up?
1575
01:29:34,903 --> 01:29:36,469
MARGOT: It's in the soup.
1576
01:29:36,471 --> 01:29:38,672
Oh, it's all ready done?
1577
01:29:38,674 --> 01:29:41,374
I was going to give you a hand.
1578
01:29:41,376 --> 01:29:46,846
One should have deep thoughts
under all circumstances.
1579
01:29:46,848 --> 01:29:51,484
No time for fooling, Margot,
I always said.
1580
01:29:51,486 --> 01:29:54,688
[Laughter]
1581
01:29:54,690 --> 01:29:57,223
WOMAN: When I was a child,
1582
01:29:57,225 --> 01:30:00,527
I was terrified of Dorothea
most of the time.
1583
01:30:00,529 --> 01:30:02,329
And I can't remember
my father
1584
01:30:02,331 --> 01:30:04,464
ever giving himself
to a belly laugh.
1585
01:30:04,466 --> 01:30:06,800
I don't think he ever did
his whole life.
1586
01:30:06,802 --> 01:30:09,302
I can, but his were silent.
1587
01:30:09,304 --> 01:30:11,671
He would smile and quake.
1588
01:30:11,673 --> 01:30:13,306
Whereas Dorothea
1589
01:30:13,308 --> 01:30:16,109
was raucous sometimes.
1590
01:30:16,111 --> 01:30:17,811
[Laughter]
1591
01:30:17,813 --> 01:30:22,749
MAN: The house was
a product of that marriage.
1592
01:30:22,751 --> 01:30:25,885
And inside it --
the rooms, the furniture,
1593
01:30:25,887 --> 01:30:29,089
the lights coming in
the living room, the silence --
1594
01:30:29,091 --> 01:30:30,957
it was magical.
1595
01:30:30,959 --> 01:30:34,227
There was a bond between them
that was ironic.
1596
01:30:34,229 --> 01:30:35,695
She called him "his honor."
1597
01:30:35,697 --> 01:30:38,331
"His honor didn't come home
for supper last night
1598
01:30:38,333 --> 01:30:41,000
because he was working late,"
that kind of thing.
1599
01:30:41,002 --> 01:30:44,938
And she would express
mock exasperation with him,
1600
01:30:44,940 --> 01:30:47,540
which sometimes masked
real exasperation
1601
01:30:47,542 --> 01:30:50,243
but turned it into
something good-natured.
1602
01:30:50,245 --> 01:30:53,613
Say, "Oh, Paul!
Oh, Paul, listen to that!"
1603
01:30:53,615 --> 01:30:56,950
And her impatience with him was
wonderful because he loved it.
1604
01:30:56,952 --> 01:31:00,420
It was obvious to me that they
were meant for each other.
1605
01:31:00,422 --> 01:31:03,022
Paul Taylor
was absolutely smitten
1606
01:31:03,024 --> 01:31:05,458
and never stepped back
an inch.
1607
01:31:05,460 --> 01:31:07,394
He was steady as a rock.
He was her rock.
1608
01:31:07,396 --> 01:31:12,399
WOMAN: It was a very difficult
decade for Dorothea Lange.
1609
01:31:12,401 --> 01:31:15,802
The bleeding ulcers were really
draining her strength.
1610
01:31:15,804 --> 01:31:19,773
She sometimes just
was exhausted.
1611
01:31:19,775 --> 01:31:23,476
She was in terrible distress
by 1945.
1612
01:31:23,478 --> 01:31:26,379
Things got worse
and worse and worse.
1613
01:31:26,381 --> 01:31:29,382
And they operated on her
for gallstones
1614
01:31:29,384 --> 01:31:31,251
and she didn't have them.
1615
01:31:31,253 --> 01:31:34,387
The indomitable spirit
that she had.
1616
01:31:34,389 --> 01:31:37,957
As soon as she could
wobble onto her feet,
1617
01:31:37,959 --> 01:31:41,294
she would plunge
into work.
1618
01:31:41,296 --> 01:31:44,597
My grandmother wrote in her journal,
1619
01:31:44,599 --> 01:31:46,666
"have had a physical breakdown.
1620
01:31:46,668 --> 01:31:49,469
Great difficulties and troubles.
1621
01:31:49,471 --> 01:31:51,971
Maynard is dead now, but not gone.
1622
01:31:51,973 --> 01:31:54,974
The children are on their various ways.
1623
01:31:54,976 --> 01:31:57,844
Paul marches through his life and shares it with me
1624
01:31:57,846 --> 01:32:00,713
in so far as I can and will.
1625
01:32:00,715 --> 01:32:03,483
No longer feel inferior, though often weak,
1626
01:32:03,485 --> 01:32:05,685
vague and ignorant.
1627
01:32:05,687 --> 01:32:07,687
Again, another start."
1628
01:32:12,694 --> 01:32:15,995
She started photographing
with Pirkle Jones,
1629
01:32:15,997 --> 01:32:17,430
a young photographer,
1630
01:32:17,432 --> 01:32:19,566
on a project at
the Berryessa Valley
1631
01:32:19,568 --> 01:32:22,502
north of San Francisco,
which was going to be flooded
1632
01:32:22,504 --> 01:32:25,271
by a dam under construction.
1633
01:32:27,609 --> 01:32:29,943
1960.
1634
01:32:29,945 --> 01:32:32,779
Strewn across my grandparents' dining table
1635
01:32:32,781 --> 01:32:36,349
were photographs which haunted my young mind.
1636
01:32:36,351 --> 01:32:40,286
The image which grabbed me and wouldn't let go --
1637
01:32:40,288 --> 01:32:45,792
a terrified white horse, running.
1638
01:32:45,861 --> 01:32:45,992
The image which grabbed me and wouldn't let go --
1639
01:32:51,900 --> 01:32:55,535
11 miles long and 2 1/2 miles wide,
1640
01:32:55,604 --> 01:32:58,505
Berryessa Valley and the town of Monticello
1641
01:32:58,573 --> 01:33:00,306
were part of California legend.
1642
01:33:01,576 --> 01:33:04,277
Families who had lived there for generations,
1643
01:33:04,346 --> 01:33:07,347
had raised pears and grapes, alfalfa and grain
1644
01:33:07,415 --> 01:33:10,149
for their cows and horses in its productive soil
1645
01:33:10,218 --> 01:33:12,619
and nearly perfect climate.
1646
01:33:15,423 --> 01:33:17,156
"Death of a Valley" "D"
1647
01:33:17,158 --> 01:33:20,593
illustrates an aspect
of Lange's work
1648
01:33:20,595 --> 01:33:23,096
that people have really
not noticed at all.
1649
01:33:23,098 --> 01:33:25,231
An environmentalism.
1650
01:33:26,902 --> 01:33:28,368
Lange had the idea,
1651
01:33:28,370 --> 01:33:31,571
not of photographing
the building of the dam
1652
01:33:31,573 --> 01:33:33,339
as another heroic project,
1653
01:33:33,341 --> 01:33:39,646
but looking at what the life
was like in this valley,
1654
01:33:39,648 --> 01:33:43,650
the valley that would be flooded
and destroyed by the dam.
1655
01:33:45,754 --> 01:33:50,189
There's this wonderful
photograph of a woman
1656
01:33:50,191 --> 01:33:52,692
holding out her hand
as if in welcome,
1657
01:33:52,694 --> 01:33:53,893
and the text says,
1658
01:33:53,895 --> 01:33:58,298
"The valley held generations
in its palm."
1659
01:34:24,059 --> 01:34:26,492
They photographed
the last harvest,
1660
01:34:26,494 --> 01:34:28,861
people still working
their fields.
1661
01:34:28,863 --> 01:34:32,932
They photographed houses being
moved to higher ground.
1662
01:34:37,339 --> 01:34:42,275
The cemeteries being unearthed
and graves moved.
1663
01:34:46,114 --> 01:34:47,981
And then you turn the page,
1664
01:34:47,983 --> 01:34:49,549
and there's a photograph
1665
01:34:49,551 --> 01:34:52,251
that just spreads across
the center line.
1666
01:34:52,253 --> 01:34:56,623
They sky is darkening
and you get the sense
1667
01:34:56,625 --> 01:34:59,459
that things are turning
for the worse.
1668
01:34:59,461 --> 01:35:03,529
And then you turn the page
again and then you see
1669
01:35:03,531 --> 01:35:06,799
these photographs
that were left.
1670
01:35:11,339 --> 01:35:16,175
It shows how disruptive it is
to leave one's home.
1671
01:35:20,181 --> 01:35:23,683
A caption in "Death of a Valley" reads --
1672
01:35:23,685 --> 01:35:27,453
"The big oaks were cut down.
1673
01:35:31,559 --> 01:35:34,160
Cattle had rested in their shade
1674
01:35:34,162 --> 01:35:38,765
and on old maps and deeds, they had served as landmarks.
1675
01:35:38,767 --> 01:35:42,301
Orderly destruction,
1676
01:35:42,303 --> 01:35:45,705
scheduled down to the last fence post.
1677
01:35:47,776 --> 01:35:50,643
Bulldozers took over.
1678
01:35:50,645 --> 01:35:53,713
Clearing Monticello reservoir site.
1679
01:35:53,715 --> 01:35:58,584
Specifications number 200C-311.
1680
01:35:58,586 --> 01:36:02,355
Buildings shall be removed completely, or leveled.
1681
01:36:02,357 --> 01:36:03,690
The reservoir site
1682
01:36:03,692 --> 01:36:07,927
shall be cleared of all trees, stumps, brush,
1683
01:36:07,929 --> 01:36:09,929
and all fences shall be removed.
1684
01:36:09,931 --> 01:36:12,465
All shall be piled to be burned in such a manner
1685
01:36:12,467 --> 01:36:14,033
that the piles will be
1686
01:36:14,035 --> 01:36:16,969
as nearly consumed in one burning as possible."
1687
01:36:29,384 --> 01:36:31,851
The valley was empty.
1688
01:36:31,853 --> 01:36:34,420
The winter rains came.
1689
01:36:34,422 --> 01:36:38,157
Water flowed over the land like a river
1690
01:36:38,159 --> 01:36:41,160
and covered the highway which ran the length of the valley.
1691
01:36:43,098 --> 01:36:44,764
It covered the town site.
1692
01:36:44,766 --> 01:36:46,733
All the landmarks disappeared.
1693
01:36:49,037 --> 01:36:53,506
No hum of insects, no smell of tarweed.
1694
01:36:53,508 --> 01:36:57,110
The water rising."
1695
01:36:57,112 --> 01:36:58,778
That community never
recovered.
1696
01:36:58,780 --> 01:37:02,248
A major loss for the state
of California,
1697
01:37:02,250 --> 01:37:05,752
for family farms,
for small communities.
1698
01:37:05,754 --> 01:37:09,155
All in the name of progress,
of course.
1699
01:37:09,157 --> 01:37:13,226
She's never easy,
she's never sentimental.
1700
01:37:13,228 --> 01:37:14,927
She's a thinker
1701
01:37:14,929 --> 01:37:18,898
as well as a person
responding with her feelings.
1702
01:37:18,900 --> 01:37:21,768
LANGE: At this time,
1703
01:37:21,770 --> 01:37:28,775
we are creating this environment
almost without scrutiny
1704
01:37:28,777 --> 01:37:31,244
in every direction
that you look.
1705
01:37:31,246 --> 01:37:33,746
The camera's
a powerful instrument
1706
01:37:33,748 --> 01:37:37,283
for saying to the world,
"This is the way it is.
1707
01:37:37,285 --> 01:37:40,553
Look at it.
Look at it."
1708
01:37:40,555 --> 01:37:42,188
WOMAN: Lange was
1709
01:37:42,190 --> 01:37:45,758
right there at the beginning
of the environmental movement,
1710
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:48,494
contributing to its literature.
1711
01:37:53,635 --> 01:37:55,968
ri My grandfather had begung
of the envi a battle movement,
1712
01:37:56,037 --> 01:37:58,771
he would fight for the rest of his life,
1713
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:00,940
supporting small family farms
1714
01:38:01,009 --> 01:38:04,043
against the illegal allocation of water
1715
01:38:04,045 --> 01:38:06,846
to large agribusiness interests. interest.
1716
01:38:06,848 --> 01:38:10,917
He would go
to these community meetings,
1717
01:38:10,919 --> 01:38:13,619
and there were tons
of corporate lawyers there
1718
01:38:13,621 --> 01:38:15,054
and he would be the only one
1719
01:38:15,056 --> 01:38:17,089
representing the people
of California
1720
01:38:17,091 --> 01:38:18,324
who needed that water.
1721
01:38:18,326 --> 01:38:23,429
He was an activist,
and yes, she was, too.
1722
01:38:23,431 --> 01:38:27,266
However, Dorothea's health had become precarious
1723
01:38:27,268 --> 01:38:31,003
and Paul was spending more time as her caregiver.
1724
01:38:31,005 --> 01:38:34,106
CONRAD: When she accepted
the invitation
1725
01:38:34,108 --> 01:38:37,510
to do the Museum
of Modern Art retrospective,
1726
01:38:37,512 --> 01:38:40,813
she felt healthy enough
to where she thought
1727
01:38:40,815 --> 01:38:42,748
she could
carry this thing off.
1728
01:38:42,750 --> 01:38:45,151
She could be feeling
absolutely miserable
1729
01:38:45,153 --> 01:38:46,419
and still be in charge.
1730
01:38:46,421 --> 01:38:48,521
LANGE: You remember this one?
1731
01:38:48,523 --> 01:38:53,392
CONRAD: Dorothea was on a pretty
strict regimen of soft food
1732
01:38:53,394 --> 01:38:55,528
and meds every few hours.
1733
01:38:55,530 --> 01:39:00,166
And it was Paul
that was the provider,
1734
01:39:00,168 --> 01:39:02,969
and he did it in
his very quiet way.
1735
01:39:04,806 --> 01:39:06,873
DIXON: The times
she got really sick,
1736
01:39:06,875 --> 01:39:10,042
she didn't have strength to go
out on the streets anymore.
1737
01:39:10,044 --> 01:39:13,079
But she still always had
a camera around her neck,
1738
01:39:13,081 --> 01:39:16,082
and she then began
the assignment
1739
01:39:16,084 --> 01:39:18,684
of photographing her own family
and her family life.
1740
01:39:23,992 --> 01:39:27,960
And part of that
was this place as well.
1741
01:39:27,962 --> 01:39:30,062
[Gulls calling]
1742
01:39:30,064 --> 01:39:32,932
My grandparents needed a respite
1743
01:39:32,934 --> 01:39:36,102
and with a grandchild or two in tow,
1744
01:39:36,104 --> 01:39:38,804
would get away to their one-board-thick cabin
1745
01:39:38,806 --> 01:39:40,573
on the coast.
1746
01:39:40,575 --> 01:39:44,911
DIXON: It had
an enchanted feeling,
1747
01:39:44,913 --> 01:39:47,580
where the world outside
was suspended.
1748
01:39:47,582 --> 01:39:51,784
But it wasn't a place where you
came to seek solutions.
1749
01:39:51,786 --> 01:39:55,388
And certainly it's true
that when she came here,
1750
01:39:55,390 --> 01:39:58,891
she was a much more relaxed,
spontaneous person
1751
01:39:58,893 --> 01:40:04,063
than she was over the hills
and far away.
1752
01:40:04,065 --> 01:40:08,000
LANGE: Then I began to wonder
what it was
1753
01:40:08,002 --> 01:40:10,136
that made us all feel,
1754
01:40:10,138 --> 01:40:14,073
the minute we went over
the brow of that hill,
1755
01:40:14,075 --> 01:40:16,142
a certain sense
1756
01:40:16,144 --> 01:40:18,744
of freedom.
1757
01:40:18,746 --> 01:40:21,147
And I kind of looked at that.
1758
01:40:21,149 --> 01:40:25,985
I tried to make up my mind
what it was.
1759
01:40:25,987 --> 01:40:30,456
This element of
what that special thing is
1760
01:40:30,458 --> 01:40:33,125
really took hold of me.
1761
01:40:37,932 --> 01:40:41,434
MAN: She did bring
her camera,
1762
01:40:41,436 --> 01:40:44,670
but she didn't come here with
a shooting schedule.
1763
01:40:44,672 --> 01:40:49,542
They just let the time
and the tides flow.
1764
01:40:59,020 --> 01:41:02,154
But time was closing in on Dorothea
1765
01:41:02,156 --> 01:41:05,024
when a final opportunity arose.
1766
01:41:05,026 --> 01:41:09,428
"Now or never," my grandmother wrote in her journal.
1767
01:41:09,430 --> 01:41:12,031
"Decisions are ill-mannered,
1768
01:41:12,033 --> 01:41:15,334
intrusive, brash, inconsiderate.
1769
01:41:15,336 --> 01:41:18,671
That exact moment when the cloud shadows
1770
01:41:18,673 --> 01:41:23,042
pass over the mountain peak, the decision must be made."
1771
01:41:23,044 --> 01:41:25,144
LANGE: I said to the doctor,
"Shall I go?"
1772
01:41:25,146 --> 01:41:26,979
And he said,
"What's the difference
1773
01:41:26,981 --> 01:41:29,181
whether you die here
or there -- let's go!"
1774
01:41:34,489 --> 01:41:39,925
In '63, in spite of everything,
I went around the world
1775
01:41:39,927 --> 01:41:42,228
with Paul.
1776
01:41:42,230 --> 01:41:46,532
WOMAN: Paul Taylor was
a land reform expert
1777
01:41:46,534 --> 01:41:50,336
for the United Nations
and foreign aid.
1778
01:41:50,338 --> 01:41:51,837
As was typical of Paul,
1779
01:41:51,839 --> 01:41:54,206
he always wanted Dorothea
with him.
1780
01:41:54,208 --> 01:41:57,376
MAN: She's no longer
the government photographer.
1781
01:41:57,378 --> 01:42:01,347
She's a wife accompanying
an economist.
1782
01:42:01,349 --> 01:42:03,182
STEIN: What lunacy
1783
01:42:03,184 --> 01:42:05,918
that the Ford Foundation
and others didn't say,
1784
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:09,155
"You should work as a couple,
as you worked in the '30s."
1785
01:42:09,157 --> 01:42:13,359
She's seen as Taylor's wife,
who has a camera.
1786
01:42:13,361 --> 01:42:15,161
[Birds chirping]
1787
01:42:15,163 --> 01:42:18,898
"I'm writing from a strange and large wooden house
1788
01:42:18,900 --> 01:42:21,767
with huge porches surrounded by jungle.
1789
01:42:21,769 --> 01:42:24,937
I never thought I'd be in a place like this.
1790
01:42:24,939 --> 01:42:28,808
The gentleman whom I love so much does his very best
1791
01:42:28,810 --> 01:42:32,244
to make everything as right for me as he can.
1792
01:42:32,246 --> 01:42:35,948
My struggles with my innards continue
1793
01:42:35,950 --> 01:42:37,883
and there are some bad moments.
1794
01:42:37,885 --> 01:42:40,019
But Paul and I survive it
1795
01:42:40,021 --> 01:42:43,756
and we are happy in the same room together.
1796
01:42:49,330 --> 01:42:53,566
It is not easy for me to work on Paul's expeditions.
1797
01:42:53,568 --> 01:42:56,302
It's only grab-shooting.
1798
01:42:56,304 --> 01:43:01,340
Travel is fast. That suicidal taxi ride.
1799
01:43:01,342 --> 01:43:04,110
Paul sat there and laughed, serene in the fact
1800
01:43:04,112 --> 01:43:05,878
that we are insured.
1801
01:43:05,880 --> 01:43:08,948
But all I could muster was, "Mother of God!"
1802
01:43:08,950 --> 01:43:11,717
No chance to discover for myself
1803
01:43:11,719 --> 01:43:15,454
what I am in the midst of and work it through.
1804
01:43:17,725 --> 01:43:19,325
I am confronted with doubts
1805
01:43:19,327 --> 01:43:23,129
as to what I can grasp and record on this journey.
1806
01:43:23,131 --> 01:43:28,234
Here is a very ordinary woman in a strange land.
1807
01:43:28,236 --> 01:43:31,704
She has a camera around her neck, poor health,
1808
01:43:31,706 --> 01:43:33,472
and is lame.
1809
01:43:33,474 --> 01:43:36,775
But the pageant is vast
1810
01:43:36,777 --> 01:43:39,979
and I clutch at tiny details, inadequate."
1811
01:44:17,118 --> 01:44:21,353
There is that lifelong
sensitivity to the body
1812
01:44:21,355 --> 01:44:23,189
that makes this very different
1813
01:44:23,191 --> 01:44:26,225
from your standard
tourist snapshots.
1814
01:44:47,782 --> 01:44:49,415
"I'm thin as a rail.
1815
01:44:49,417 --> 01:44:53,152
I have to hold up my clothes with safety pins.
1816
01:44:53,154 --> 01:44:56,055
The bedspread is gritty
1817
01:44:56,057 --> 01:44:59,158
and I lie in this agreeable disagreeable room
1818
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:00,693
and look over my negatives.
1819
01:45:00,695 --> 01:45:03,629
Why do I photograph?
1820
01:45:03,631 --> 01:45:07,633
How much is vanity or self-justification?
1821
01:45:07,635 --> 01:45:11,570
Faced with all these international negatives,
1822
01:45:11,572 --> 01:45:14,974
and behind them all the other negatives I've made,
1823
01:45:14,976 --> 01:45:17,076
order begins to come
1824
01:45:17,078 --> 01:45:19,078
out of this life."
1825
01:45:28,756 --> 01:45:34,059
MAN: One wonders to what extent
it's a visual journey for her,
1826
01:45:34,061 --> 01:45:35,561
that all of this
1827
01:45:35,563 --> 01:45:40,065
is her own drive to explore
the human condition.
1828
01:45:47,475 --> 01:45:51,010
"Later, while Paul sleeps, I ask myself,
1829
01:45:51,012 --> 01:45:52,945
for what have I lived?
1830
01:45:52,947 --> 01:45:57,149
This is the year, in the midst of my suffering,
1831
01:45:57,151 --> 01:45:59,285
I became an artist in the world.
1832
01:45:59,287 --> 01:46:00,552
A small artist,
1833
01:46:00,554 --> 01:46:03,355
but for the first time in all the years,
1834
01:46:03,357 --> 01:46:06,458
I can say I'm beginning to be an artist."
1835
01:46:23,044 --> 01:46:27,813
"My energies are short and limited because of my illness.
1836
01:46:27,815 --> 01:46:31,317
But I believe that I can see,
1837
01:46:31,319 --> 01:46:34,186
that I can see straight and true and fast.
1838
01:46:36,557 --> 01:46:40,059
This has been an exercise in vision,
1839
01:46:40,061 --> 01:46:42,461
and for this photographer,
1840
01:46:42,463 --> 01:46:47,199
it may be closer to the final performance."
1841
01:46:47,201 --> 01:46:50,169
MAN: There were
these categories,
1842
01:46:50,171 --> 01:46:54,473
these drawers, where,
over time, photographs landed.
1843
01:46:54,475 --> 01:46:57,042
"I like this image.
Where does it belong...?"
1844
01:46:57,044 --> 01:47:00,946
She described as making
sentences out of photographs,
1845
01:47:00,948 --> 01:47:03,582
and maybe, possibly, if you
could really be good at it,
1846
01:47:03,584 --> 01:47:06,185
you'd make a paragraph
out of it.
1847
01:47:06,187 --> 01:47:10,022
LANGE: We take the old woman,
whose life is almost finished
1848
01:47:10,024 --> 01:47:12,257
and has all that work
behind her.
1849
01:47:12,259 --> 01:47:14,360
She goes in...
1850
01:47:14,362 --> 01:47:19,631
CONRAD: Sometime in the late
spring, early summer of '64,
1851
01:47:19,633 --> 01:47:22,067
she began to have
more and more bouts
1852
01:47:22,069 --> 01:47:25,170
of throat constriction
and pain,
1853
01:47:25,172 --> 01:47:29,641
and it was determined that she,
in fact, had cancer.
1854
01:47:29,643 --> 01:47:33,312
At that point, she'd already
invested a good deal of time
1855
01:47:33,314 --> 01:47:37,216
in getting this Museum
of Modern Art show done.
1856
01:47:37,218 --> 01:47:39,251
And it was
full steam ahead.
1857
01:47:39,253 --> 01:47:42,254
To see me struggle this way
is not so good, is it?
1858
01:47:42,256 --> 01:47:45,924
[Telephone rings]
1859
01:47:45,926 --> 01:47:50,362
This is very challenging
under my present circumstances.
1860
01:47:50,364 --> 01:47:52,030
I have cancer
of the esophagus,
1861
01:47:52,032 --> 01:47:53,632
and I'm not
going to be here.
1862
01:47:53,634 --> 01:47:57,102
We are trying to make
that show add up
1863
01:47:57,104 --> 01:48:02,875
to not a succession
of extra-fine photographs.
1864
01:48:02,877 --> 01:48:04,343
I don't care about
the photography,
1865
01:48:04,345 --> 01:48:06,044
I only care about
what the camera can do.
1866
01:48:06,046 --> 01:48:09,615
So, I work for the exhibition
1867
01:48:09,617 --> 01:48:12,785
and contemplate things
as they are.
1868
01:48:15,756 --> 01:48:19,291
CONRAD: From the moment that
the cancer was diagnosed,
1869
01:48:19,293 --> 01:48:22,227
she knew that there was
a deadline.
1870
01:48:22,229 --> 01:48:26,899
That either the show was going
to be completed in that time
1871
01:48:26,901 --> 01:48:28,934
or it wasn't
going to happen.
1872
01:48:28,936 --> 01:48:31,003
And she pressed herself.
1873
01:48:31,005 --> 01:48:33,405
She would just keep on going.
1874
01:48:33,407 --> 01:48:36,141
My grandfather wrote John Szarkowski
1875
01:48:36,143 --> 01:48:38,544
at the Museum of Modern Art --
1876
01:48:38,546 --> 01:48:41,480
"Dear John, amid the ups and downs,
1877
01:48:41,482 --> 01:48:43,549
today is on the 'up' side.
1878
01:48:43,551 --> 01:48:46,518
Dorothea looks forward greatly to your coming --
1879
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:49,755
almost literally 'lives for it.'
1880
01:48:49,757 --> 01:48:52,224
My estimate still holds --
1881
01:48:52,226 --> 01:48:56,361
chance is 50-50 we will get her to New York
1882
01:48:56,363 --> 01:48:58,997
for the opening in January."
1883
01:49:02,803 --> 01:49:05,504
In late summer of 1965,
1884
01:49:05,506 --> 01:49:08,974
John Szarkowski came for a final time
1885
01:49:08,976 --> 01:49:10,409
to work with Dorothea.
1886
01:49:12,513 --> 01:49:15,314
MAN: When we got down
to the nitty-gritty of it,
1887
01:49:15,316 --> 01:49:18,484
she was one of the most
strong-minded people
1888
01:49:18,486 --> 01:49:20,519
I've ever met.
1889
01:49:20,521 --> 01:49:23,222
As walls developed,
as themes developed --
1890
01:49:23,224 --> 01:49:25,691
pairs of pictures,
groups of photographs
1891
01:49:25,693 --> 01:49:28,627
coalesced around each other
and made visual sense.
1892
01:49:28,629 --> 01:49:30,963
Her confidence grew.
1893
01:49:30,965 --> 01:49:33,866
It was, "Okay, full-bore,
let's go."
1894
01:49:37,204 --> 01:49:42,007
As the show took shape, it was
really an interesting trip
1895
01:49:42,009 --> 01:49:48,313
to conceive of it as some kind
of integrated visual event.
1896
01:49:52,319 --> 01:49:55,721
LANGE: Once you've seen
a pair like this,
1897
01:49:55,723 --> 01:49:58,023
you miss it.
1898
01:49:58,025 --> 01:50:01,059
It's only really
half a sentence.
1899
01:50:16,243 --> 01:50:17,910
"You know what today is?
1900
01:50:17,912 --> 01:50:20,345
Today is the first day of autumn.
1901
01:50:20,347 --> 01:50:21,613
Have you felt it?
1902
01:50:21,615 --> 01:50:23,949
Today it started.
1903
01:50:23,951 --> 01:50:28,820
The summer ended this afternoon at 2:00, all of the sudden.
1904
01:50:28,822 --> 01:50:32,224
The air got still, a different smell.
1905
01:50:32,226 --> 01:50:35,894
A kind of funny, brooding quiet.
1906
01:50:35,896 --> 01:50:37,896
Today it happened.
1907
01:50:37,898 --> 01:50:42,134
I was out and I was just so aware of it.
1908
01:50:42,136 --> 01:50:43,468
Can you feel it?
1909
01:50:43,470 --> 01:50:45,237
Today is the day."
1910
01:51:10,097 --> 01:51:13,799
Dorothea never made it to the exhibition.
1911
01:51:13,801 --> 01:51:17,102
She died three months before.
1912
01:51:17,104 --> 01:51:20,839
At her side until the end, my grandfather told us later,
1913
01:51:20,841 --> 01:51:23,041
her last words were,
1914
01:51:23,043 --> 01:51:26,612
"Isn't it a miracle that it comes at the right time?"
1915
01:51:28,983 --> 01:51:30,616
After a moment, he added,
1916
01:51:30,618 --> 01:51:33,652
"It was the greatest thing in my personal life
1917
01:51:33,654 --> 01:51:36,955
to live 30 years with a woman like that."
1918
01:52:11,692 --> 01:52:15,227
My grandfather lived another 20 years.
1919
01:52:15,229 --> 01:52:18,897
He never stopped fighting for the rights of migrant workers
1920
01:52:18,899 --> 01:52:21,433
and for the fair distribution of water
1921
01:52:21,435 --> 01:52:23,669
to small farmers in California.
1922
01:52:26,306 --> 01:52:30,175
From him I received the gift of Dorothea's camera
1923
01:52:30,177 --> 01:52:31,843
soon after she died,
1924
01:52:31,845 --> 01:52:34,346
an enduring expression of their confidence.
1925
01:52:36,517 --> 01:52:40,018
Our family scattered Dorothea's ashes near the cabin
1926
01:52:40,020 --> 01:52:42,287
from the rocks above the sea.
1927
01:53:02,509 --> 01:53:05,043
To learn more about Dorothea Lange
1928
01:53:05,045 --> 01:53:06,945
and other American masters,
1929
01:53:06,947 --> 01:53:09,581
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1930
01:53:09,583 --> 01:53:12,651
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1931
01:53:12,653 --> 01:53:15,420
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1932
01:53:15,422 --> 01:53:18,590
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1933
01:53:18,592 --> 01:53:21,259
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1934
01:53:21,261 --> 01:53:22,928
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1935
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