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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:38,686 --> 00:00:42,226 # It's all right, it's OK. Doesn't really matter if you're old and grey 2 00:00:42,226 --> 00:00:45,266 # It's all right, it's OK 3 00:00:45,266 --> 00:00:47,826 # Listen to what I say 4 00:00:47,826 --> 00:00:50,346 # It's all right, doing fine 5 00:00:50,346 --> 00:00:53,526 # Doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine 6 00:00:53,526 --> 00:00:55,606 # It's all right, it's OK 7 00:00:55,606 --> 00:00:57,926 # We're getting to the end of the day. # 8 00:01:02,872 --> 00:01:05,072 TV: Strike action at the London Dockyards 9 00:01:05,072 --> 00:01:06,452 entered its seventh week 10 00:01:06,452 --> 00:01:08,412 with little sign of a resolution. 11 00:01:08,412 --> 00:01:12,672 Union leader Joseph Walsh addressed a mass meeting. 12 00:01:12,672 --> 00:01:13,972 This Government, 13 00:01:13,972 --> 00:01:17,152 the Government WE put into office, 14 00:01:17,152 --> 00:01:19,512 this Labour Government so-called, 15 00:01:19,512 --> 00:01:22,012 has sold us down the river. 16 00:01:22,012 --> 00:01:27,512 If we don't make a stand, in another ten years, there'll be no docks. 17 00:01:27,512 --> 00:01:29,912 If we don't fight now, 18 00:01:29,912 --> 00:01:33,912 all this will be sold off and built on by developers. 19 00:01:33,912 --> 00:01:36,452 Right - that's Canary Wharf now. 20 00:01:36,452 --> 00:01:41,332 1975, a Labour Government with a majority of three. 21 00:01:41,332 --> 00:01:45,312 Inflation is going through the roof and Joe Walsh is leading 22 00:01:45,312 --> 00:01:49,292 the crane drivers in a strike that could paralyse the docks. 23 00:01:50,332 --> 00:01:54,972 Mr Walsh, can you comment on press reports that your union 24 00:01:54,972 --> 00:02:00,892 has received secret funds from the Soviet Union? No comment. And these have been diverted for your use? 25 00:02:00,892 --> 00:02:03,232 You what? Come here, you! 26 00:02:03,232 --> 00:02:05,292 A very strong reaction, Mr Walsh. 27 00:02:05,292 --> 00:02:10,892 Keeping your own hours, Brian? On enquiries. Joe Walsh, isn't it? 28 00:02:10,892 --> 00:02:15,492 Yeah. He was a bit of a hero of mine. That explains a lot. 29 00:02:15,492 --> 00:02:19,792 Joe Walsh's body was recovered from the Thames on 20th May, 1975. 30 00:02:19,792 --> 00:02:24,672 Days after these financial rumours began to circulate. 31 00:02:24,672 --> 00:02:28,012 He got caught and topped himself. What's the mystery? 32 00:02:28,012 --> 00:02:34,692 Cabinet papers for 1975 have been released under the 30-year rule. 33 00:02:34,692 --> 00:02:40,172 When Harold Wilson asked for comments on the Dock Strike, the Minister for Economic Security said, 34 00:02:40,172 --> 00:02:43,152 and I quote, "In my opinion, 35 00:02:43,152 --> 00:02:47,532 "Joe Walsh is a politically motivated man, holding the country to ransom. 36 00:02:47,532 --> 00:02:49,652 "What's the Security Service doing? 37 00:02:49,652 --> 00:02:55,052 "This man needs to be brought down urgently. Do whatever it takes." 38 00:02:55,052 --> 00:03:00,812 I think we should reopen this case and find out if Joe Walsh committed suicide, or if they disposed of him. 39 00:03:02,052 --> 00:03:07,092 High-profile case, politics, security, could be a minefield. 40 00:03:07,092 --> 00:03:11,092 Still, you've all been round the block a few times, 41 00:03:11,092 --> 00:03:17,612 Tread carefully. I'll watch your back as much as I can. But don't push your luck. 42 00:03:17,612 --> 00:03:23,032 The body was recovered further down, but they reckoned he went in about here. 43 00:03:26,528 --> 00:03:30,708 Well, if MI5 knocked off stroppy trade unionists in the '70s, 44 00:03:30,708 --> 00:03:33,668 the mortuaries would be standing room only. 45 00:03:33,668 --> 00:03:37,588 They'd been told to target him. No. They targeted all sorts. 46 00:03:37,588 --> 00:03:43,768 I've got an old mate in the Trade Union Movement. He might be able to shed some light on things. 47 00:03:43,768 --> 00:03:48,088 And someone ought to be looking at the union's financial records. 48 00:03:48,088 --> 00:03:51,348 I'll have a go at that, I've got experience. 49 00:03:51,348 --> 00:03:56,588 Eh? Brian used to be a Police Federation Representative. 50 00:03:56,588 --> 00:03:58,828 Yeah, first sign he was going barmy. 51 00:03:58,828 --> 00:04:01,268 Any surviving witnesses? 52 00:04:01,268 --> 00:04:04,648 His daughter, Anita. Not THE Anita Walsh? 53 00:04:04,648 --> 00:04:06,308 The same. 54 00:04:06,308 --> 00:04:08,428 Yeah! You and I can go talk to her. 55 00:04:08,428 --> 00:04:12,008 And, Jack, someone's got to approach MI5. 56 00:04:12,008 --> 00:04:13,148 Thank you. 57 00:04:26,450 --> 00:04:30,830 Oh, these writers don't live in garrets any more, do they? 58 00:04:30,830 --> 00:04:34,230 The ones who write airport blockbusters don't, no. 59 00:05:05,274 --> 00:05:09,754 Miss Walsh? Yes? I am Detective Superintendent Pullman. 60 00:05:09,754 --> 00:05:13,674 This is Gerry Standing. We need to talk to you about your late father. 61 00:05:13,674 --> 00:05:16,574 We're reinvestigating his death. 62 00:05:16,574 --> 00:05:18,554 Can we come in? 63 00:05:18,554 --> 00:05:21,494 Yes. Thank you. 64 00:05:59,378 --> 00:06:02,438 TV: Technically speaking, it's a cock up. 65 00:06:02,438 --> 00:06:06,358 Hello? Anybody home? 66 00:06:06,358 --> 00:06:10,378 Can I help you? Oh, I'm looking for Frank Benson. 67 00:06:10,378 --> 00:06:14,058 I'm an old friend of his. My name is Halford, Jack Halford. 68 00:06:14,058 --> 00:06:15,978 You're Jack? 69 00:06:15,978 --> 00:06:19,678 Yeah, I can see now, granddad's always kept the photos. 70 00:06:19,678 --> 00:06:23,598 You must be Karen. Yeah, come in, I expect he's nodded off. 71 00:06:25,058 --> 00:06:28,418 Gramps? You've got a visitor. 72 00:06:32,218 --> 00:06:37,358 Well, now, Frank, it's been a while. Pisss off. 73 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,680 He was trying to run a strike, he was being slagged off by the Government, 74 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:51,340 and on top of that he was being smeared in the media for taking money from foreign governments. 75 00:06:51,340 --> 00:06:56,820 You don't think he did? He had his faults, but he was as straight as a telegraph pole. 76 00:06:56,820 --> 00:06:58,540 What did you make of the rumours? 77 00:06:58,540 --> 00:07:02,880 How should I know? I wasn't involved in trade union politics. 78 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,660 You say he had his faults, what? 79 00:07:05,660 --> 00:07:10,260 My dad liked getting his own way, he didn't like being contradicted. 80 00:07:10,260 --> 00:07:12,060 I was a teenage girl. 81 00:07:12,060 --> 00:07:18,940 I had all the usual issues with my dad, you know - clothes, staying out late, boyfriends, smoking. 82 00:07:18,940 --> 00:07:21,680 The stuff everybody goes through. 83 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,920 Only, most people get a chance to work it out. I never did. 84 00:07:28,540 --> 00:07:30,340 I loved him. 85 00:07:30,340 --> 00:07:35,080 Look, I know this must be difficult for you, but could you help us 86 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,900 find people close to him at the time? 87 00:07:37,900 --> 00:07:41,100 You could try Brendan. Who's that? 88 00:07:41,100 --> 00:07:44,380 Brendan Dyer. He was the Deputy General Secretary. 89 00:07:44,380 --> 00:07:48,260 He and his wife, Rose, were very good to me. You're still in touch? Yes. 90 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,820 This is where you'll find them. Thank you, Miss Walsh. Listen... 91 00:08:01,820 --> 00:08:05,540 could you sign this for me? I'm a big fan. 92 00:08:05,540 --> 00:08:08,580 Certainly. To Gerry, with a "G". 93 00:08:11,620 --> 00:08:14,980 Thank you very much. There you go. Bye-bye. 94 00:08:43,471 --> 00:08:47,511 My God, that looks nasty. Something from the forensic pathology lab? 95 00:08:47,511 --> 00:08:49,891 Medication. 96 00:09:09,691 --> 00:09:16,311 Look out! I can confirm that the Security Service did have a file on Joseph Walsh in 1975. 97 00:09:16,311 --> 00:09:20,971 Can I see it? The file was reclassified as inactive when he died, 98 00:09:20,971 --> 00:09:23,411 and after a suitable interval it was destroyed. 99 00:09:25,711 --> 00:09:30,131 Is there any record of what actions the Security Service took? No. 100 00:09:30,131 --> 00:09:32,791 We have no reason to assume they took any actions. 101 00:09:32,791 --> 00:09:36,531 A Cabinet Minister asked for action. 102 00:09:36,531 --> 00:09:41,591 He was asking for information. There may have been nothing to report. 103 00:09:41,591 --> 00:09:44,511 If you've destroyed the files, 104 00:09:44,511 --> 00:09:49,451 I want to talk to the officers who were involved in this matter. 105 00:09:49,451 --> 00:09:52,171 We're talking about 30 years ago. 106 00:09:52,171 --> 00:09:57,251 Anyone senior enough to be involved would be long retired, 107 00:09:57,251 --> 00:09:59,311 and indeed quite likely deceased. 108 00:09:59,311 --> 00:10:03,351 A brick wall? I hope you don't feel that we're being uncooperative. 109 00:10:03,351 --> 00:10:08,751 There is an independent commission to whom you can refer any complaint. 110 00:10:14,811 --> 00:10:19,551 How many complaints has the Commission ever upheld? 111 00:10:19,551 --> 00:10:22,771 I'm happy to say that we have a clean sheet. 112 00:10:26,851 --> 00:10:28,431 Look out, mate! 113 00:10:53,616 --> 00:10:56,196 You were top man in the union after Joe Walsh? 114 00:10:56,196 --> 00:11:00,396 Oh-ho. There was only one top man. Joe depended on you. 115 00:11:00,396 --> 00:11:04,896 Well, for the everyday things maybe. The old paperwork and that. 116 00:11:04,896 --> 00:11:08,636 No, Joe was a real leader, he could hold a mass meeting 117 00:11:08,636 --> 00:11:12,316 in the palm of his hands, and I'm talking hard cases, dockers. 118 00:11:12,316 --> 00:11:18,136 Brendan did a lot of the work and Joe got a lot of the glory. 119 00:11:18,136 --> 00:11:20,996 Were you involved as well, Rose? 120 00:11:20,996 --> 00:11:25,976 Yes, I trained as a teacher, but I became an education officer for the union. That's how we met. 121 00:11:25,976 --> 00:11:30,716 Brendan, you were the last person to see Joe Walsh alive. 122 00:11:30,716 --> 00:11:34,876 Yeah, yes, we'd spent the day with George McCready, the treasurer. 123 00:11:34,876 --> 00:11:36,876 Now Lord McCready? 124 00:11:36,876 --> 00:11:38,516 Yeah. 125 00:11:38,516 --> 00:11:44,496 We were going through the books cos the news had just broken about the missing funds - 126 00:11:44,496 --> 00:11:52,016 Joe and me wanted to check them before the committee got started, and there was something badly wrong. 127 00:11:52,016 --> 00:11:56,376 But Joe couldn't explain it, he was baffled. 128 00:11:56,376 --> 00:12:01,816 Joe was no good at figures! He got a mate to work out his darts score. 129 00:12:01,816 --> 00:12:08,576 Anyway, George had to go and I had an evening meeting, so we left Joe in the office. 130 00:12:31,204 --> 00:12:36,924 We really ought to speak to Lord McCready but unfortunately his office can't find a window for us. 131 00:12:36,924 --> 00:12:40,424 And he's essential to your inquiry, is he? Oh, yeah. 132 00:12:40,424 --> 00:12:43,544 Yes, it's all in the rulebook - 133 00:12:43,544 --> 00:12:46,744 rule ten, sub-paragraph seven. 134 00:12:46,744 --> 00:12:49,024 Yes, Brian, the gist of which is... 135 00:12:49,024 --> 00:12:52,564 Well, McCready and Joe Walsh were the only people in the union 136 00:12:52,564 --> 00:12:56,604 who had the power to authorise payments without going through the executive. 137 00:12:56,604 --> 00:13:01,104 Sandra could just barge in McCready's office with her warrant card. 138 00:13:01,104 --> 00:13:03,944 No, I'll see what I can do. 139 00:13:03,944 --> 00:13:06,484 Thank you, sir. WATCH ALARM SOUNDS 140 00:14:16,739 --> 00:14:18,499 There we are. 141 00:14:20,119 --> 00:14:23,659 Urgh! Carrion? 142 00:14:23,659 --> 00:14:25,879 I beg your pardon? 143 00:14:25,879 --> 00:14:28,639 The flesh of a deceased creature. 144 00:14:28,639 --> 00:14:34,379 I shouldn't be introducing that kind of material into my system. 145 00:14:34,379 --> 00:14:37,559 What? My body is a temple. 146 00:14:37,559 --> 00:14:41,759 I suppose I could have a go at the broccoli and tomato. 147 00:14:41,759 --> 00:14:46,019 This is organic? Have you been taking your pills? 148 00:14:46,019 --> 00:14:48,519 What? 149 00:14:48,519 --> 00:14:51,199 Am I not a picture of health? 150 00:14:51,199 --> 00:14:55,339 Your pills are not about how you look. Have you been taking them? 151 00:14:55,339 --> 00:14:56,799 Yes, of course. 152 00:15:00,939 --> 00:15:03,639 Well, you've not taken today's. 153 00:15:06,499 --> 00:15:10,979 That's because they have to be taken with food, they're just due now. 154 00:15:13,899 --> 00:15:15,359 Swallow. 155 00:15:37,579 --> 00:15:41,079 Oh, Brian, what's Scruffy doing here? 156 00:15:41,079 --> 00:15:44,579 That wasn't Scruffy. That was me. 157 00:15:50,359 --> 00:15:52,479 Right, progress? 158 00:15:52,479 --> 00:15:55,979 Well, Strickland's managed to get us in to see McCready. 159 00:15:55,979 --> 00:15:58,719 And I checked out Dyers' boat. 160 00:15:58,719 --> 00:16:03,059 Brendan paid �7,000 for it in June, 1975. 161 00:16:03,059 --> 00:16:05,799 A few weeks after Joe Walsh died. 162 00:16:05,799 --> 00:16:09,479 Serious money in those days, my first house cost less than that. 163 00:16:09,479 --> 00:16:11,799 Wish I could say the same about my first wife. 164 00:16:11,799 --> 00:16:16,499 That's way more than Brendan Dyer earned in a year. We have to find out where the money came from. 165 00:16:16,499 --> 00:16:22,399 How about the documents? I'm struggling with these accounts. It's complicated stuff. 166 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:28,159 But I think we should discuss these trade union leaflets. 167 00:16:28,159 --> 00:16:34,059 Gerry, Jack and I were represented by the Police Federation in the job. 168 00:16:34,059 --> 00:16:36,179 Yeah, not that we had any choice. 169 00:16:36,179 --> 00:16:41,659 Yeah, but now we're in UCOS, we're non-unionised. So we're open to exploitation. 170 00:16:41,659 --> 00:16:44,739 We've no collective bargaining rights. 171 00:16:44,739 --> 00:16:46,319 Oh, knock it off, Brian! 172 00:16:46,319 --> 00:16:49,939 What about our employment protection? 173 00:16:49,939 --> 00:16:52,639 I mean, how do we deal with health and safety at work? 174 00:16:52,639 --> 00:16:58,679 Or discrimination as regards, er, gender or disabilities? 175 00:16:58,679 --> 00:17:02,859 Brian, we are in the middle of an inquiry here. Ethnicity, child care. 176 00:17:02,859 --> 00:17:09,099 It's a very good question, Brian, but I think we ought to deal with it out of the presence of management. 177 00:17:13,099 --> 00:17:14,579 Good point. 178 00:17:18,039 --> 00:17:24,159 Right, has anyone got anything to say about the case? I've been looking at the post mortem report. 179 00:17:24,159 --> 00:17:28,299 I thought that was straightforward, drowning? But injuries to the head and body 180 00:17:28,299 --> 00:17:32,099 were put down to being swept into pilings and bridges by the tide. 181 00:17:32,099 --> 00:17:35,479 Who did the post mortem? Dr Ludlow. Ha-ha! 182 00:17:35,479 --> 00:17:36,919 Handy Andy. 183 00:17:38,459 --> 00:17:43,479 Dr Andrew Ludlow. Struck off by the General Medical Council, 1987. 184 00:17:43,479 --> 00:17:45,599 Died 1998. 185 00:17:45,599 --> 00:17:47,839 Shit. And Walsh was cremated. 186 00:17:49,079 --> 00:17:52,199 OK, get another pathologist to look at the evidence. 187 00:17:52,199 --> 00:17:57,599 Sandra, you know that mate of mine, Frank Benson? The union guy? Yes. I think he could be useful. 188 00:17:57,599 --> 00:18:01,299 He's a bit reluctant to talk to me. I wondered if you'd come along. 189 00:18:01,299 --> 00:18:04,559 I mean, knowing Frank, with a bit of skirt... 190 00:18:04,559 --> 00:18:08,819 I mean, I think he'd probably be more inclined to unbutton... 191 00:18:12,019 --> 00:18:14,899 Would you come along with me? I'll come along. Thank you. 192 00:18:14,899 --> 00:18:17,159 Karen? 193 00:18:17,159 --> 00:18:21,319 Superintendent Pullman. I need to ask Frank some questions. 194 00:18:21,319 --> 00:18:23,659 Maybe he'll talk to her if he won't talk to me. 195 00:18:23,659 --> 00:18:26,979 It's really important, honestly. OK. 196 00:18:26,979 --> 00:18:28,799 Thank you. 197 00:18:31,379 --> 00:18:34,079 I bloody told you. Now, now, Frank, ladies present. 198 00:18:34,079 --> 00:18:37,199 Frank, I'm Detective Superintendent Pullman. 199 00:18:37,199 --> 00:18:41,879 We're reinvestigating the death of Joe Walsh. 200 00:18:43,499 --> 00:18:46,559 All right, but I'm not talking to him. 201 00:18:46,559 --> 00:18:48,299 Let's make some tea. 202 00:18:52,079 --> 00:18:55,499 You were his best man. How d'you fall out with Jack? 203 00:18:55,499 --> 00:18:58,859 Miners' strike. Orgreave, '84. 204 00:18:58,859 --> 00:19:02,739 I was a TUC observer on the picket line when your lot rode us down. 205 00:19:02,739 --> 00:19:06,079 Jack had nothing to do with Orgreave. 206 00:19:06,079 --> 00:19:11,219 How a man with his background could stay in the police after that. 207 00:19:11,219 --> 00:19:15,059 20 years. Long time to hold a grudge. 208 00:19:15,059 --> 00:19:17,999 Not where I come from. 209 00:19:21,219 --> 00:19:24,719 So you're a lifelong trade unionist? I went down the pit first off, 210 00:19:24,719 --> 00:19:29,459 then I became an NUM official, and after that I got a job with the TUC. 211 00:19:29,459 --> 00:19:32,059 And you were involved in the dock strike in 1975? 212 00:19:32,059 --> 00:19:38,859 I was the liaison between the crane drivers and the TUC. But you know all this. Come on. OK. 213 00:19:38,859 --> 00:19:43,159 Joe Walsh, were you close to him? He could have been 214 00:19:43,159 --> 00:19:46,259 the greatest working-class leader since Nye Bevan. 215 00:19:46,259 --> 00:19:48,319 So they had to take him down. 216 00:19:48,319 --> 00:19:50,819 They? MI5, the State. 217 00:19:50,819 --> 00:19:52,959 They had us all sewn up. 218 00:19:52,959 --> 00:19:56,359 How did they do that? Their paid agent did it, their Judas. 219 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,039 There was a mole right at the heart of the union, 220 00:20:00,039 --> 00:20:04,619 and he cooked the books and he killed Joe Walsh. 221 00:20:06,379 --> 00:20:11,079 So you're saying that an MI5 agent framed and murdered Joe Walsh? 222 00:20:11,079 --> 00:20:14,399 They tried it on Scargill in the miners' strike. 223 00:20:14,399 --> 00:20:20,039 They tried to fit him up for taking back-handers from Libya, but they couldn't make it stick. 224 00:20:20,039 --> 00:20:24,919 They didn't try to murder him. Who do you think this mole was? 225 00:20:24,919 --> 00:20:27,179 As God is my witness, if I knew him... 226 00:20:35,172 --> 00:20:38,772 Karen... Karen. 227 00:20:38,772 --> 00:20:43,792 Don't worry, Gramps. We'll sort it out. Let's get you to the bathroom. You'd better go. Thank you. 228 00:22:45,171 --> 00:22:47,251 You're doing a wonderful job. 229 00:22:47,251 --> 00:22:51,691 I've checked the clear-up figures - outstanding. Thank you. 230 00:22:51,691 --> 00:22:55,311 You were treasurer of the Crane Drivers' Union in 1975. 231 00:22:55,311 --> 00:22:58,751 When did you see something was wrong with the accounts? 232 00:22:58,751 --> 00:23:00,991 I was an elected official, 233 00:23:00,991 --> 00:23:04,851 responsible for taking an overview of financial matters. 234 00:23:04,851 --> 00:23:11,911 Day-to-day transactions were in the hands of a full-time union employee, a book-keeper. Who was that? 235 00:23:11,911 --> 00:23:16,571 Dear old Glenys Heyford. Served the union all her working life. 236 00:23:16,571 --> 00:23:22,131 An absolute treasure in many ways but if the truth be told, she wasn't really up to the job. 237 00:23:22,131 --> 00:23:24,851 Do you know how we could contact her? 238 00:23:24,851 --> 00:23:26,671 Glenys is long gone. 239 00:23:26,671 --> 00:23:31,071 That we're used to. Now, Glenys dealt with the day-to-day figures. 240 00:23:31,071 --> 00:23:37,491 Shortly before Joe Walsh died, I was working with her on a union executive meeting. 241 00:23:37,491 --> 00:23:41,791 We realised funds were missing. Then it was leaked to the press. 242 00:23:41,791 --> 00:23:44,591 By whom? We never got to the bottom of that. 243 00:23:44,591 --> 00:23:48,191 After Joe died, no-one had the heart to pursue it. 244 00:23:48,191 --> 00:23:54,791 Who knew at that point? Me, Glenys, Joe Walsh, Brendan Dyer. 245 00:23:54,791 --> 00:24:00,231 I suppose if Brendan knew, he might have told Rose and Anita Walsh. 246 00:24:00,231 --> 00:24:05,191 Why Anita? Anita used to help out in her school holidays. 247 00:24:05,191 --> 00:24:10,191 You don't know who leaked to the press? Any idea who took the money? 248 00:24:10,191 --> 00:24:16,371 All I can tell you is that Joe took the publicity terribly badly, 249 00:24:16,371 --> 00:24:19,111 and was found dead shortly afterwards. 250 00:24:19,111 --> 00:24:23,651 Well, you see, that's the whole point of free collective bargaining. 251 00:24:23,651 --> 00:24:26,591 Go on, mate, get yourself signed up. 252 00:24:26,591 --> 00:24:31,631 Join the flunkies' union. I mean, you've every right. 253 00:24:31,631 --> 00:24:35,371 You're only a worker in a toff's jacket. 254 00:24:35,371 --> 00:24:39,131 A mouthful of plums don't mean you haven't got rights. 255 00:24:39,131 --> 00:24:45,231 Hang on, just one second, it's here somewhere, just get the glasses on maybe. That's better. 256 00:24:45,231 --> 00:24:48,611 Our colleague, Brian Lane, Lord McCready. 257 00:24:48,611 --> 00:24:50,411 How d'you do? 258 00:24:50,411 --> 00:24:54,831 Now, I just want a quick word about Trade Union rights. 259 00:24:54,831 --> 00:24:58,591 You see, as this book clearly demonstrates - 260 00:24:58,591 --> 00:25:03,851 in the strike in the 1980s, the Government used security services 261 00:25:03,851 --> 00:25:07,531 to try to smear Arthur Scargill and the NUM. 262 00:25:07,531 --> 00:25:11,251 Brian, can we stick to... We see a pattern emerging. 263 00:25:11,251 --> 00:25:15,911 The same tactic was used against Joe Walsh and the Crane Drivers. 264 00:25:15,911 --> 00:25:23,331 We're supposed to be investigating... And my question is, Lord McCready, as a former officer 265 00:25:23,331 --> 00:25:31,131 of the Police Federation, I am well aware of the tactics used by a ruthless secret service 266 00:25:31,131 --> 00:25:36,171 intent on undermining quite legitimate trade union activity. Brian. 267 00:25:36,171 --> 00:25:40,391 What I want to know is, was I a victim of this 268 00:25:40,391 --> 00:25:43,971 totally unacceptable intrusion into my private life? 269 00:25:43,971 --> 00:25:49,331 It's an interesting question, Mr Lane, but I don't see the relevance. 270 00:25:49,331 --> 00:25:50,971 Ha! 271 00:25:50,971 --> 00:25:54,371 So my answer is, no comment. 272 00:25:54,371 --> 00:25:59,691 No comment. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have another appointment with the select committee. 273 00:25:59,691 --> 00:26:01,811 Oh, yes, wouldn't you know. 274 00:26:01,811 --> 00:26:04,331 No comment. No comment. 275 00:26:04,331 --> 00:26:07,531 I think we'll leave it there for today. 276 00:26:07,531 --> 00:26:09,971 I had a valid point to make. Yes, and you made it. 277 00:26:09,971 --> 00:26:12,171 Did I or did I not? You did. 278 00:26:12,171 --> 00:26:15,871 Didn't I have a valid point? Yes, and you made it! He knows as well. 279 00:30:42,422 --> 00:30:46,702 Hello? More questions? 280 00:30:46,702 --> 00:30:48,782 I hope this isn't going to take long. 281 00:30:48,782 --> 00:30:54,982 You said you weren't involved with your father's union work. All right. 282 00:30:54,982 --> 00:31:00,262 Look, I didn't want to go there. I've been through a lot dealing with what happened to my dad. 283 00:31:00,262 --> 00:31:05,822 So if I have to revisit the time of his death, I'd rather do it with a shrink and not a detective. 284 00:31:05,822 --> 00:31:08,242 No offence. None taken. 285 00:31:09,802 --> 00:31:12,162 I do understand what you mean, Anita. 286 00:31:12,162 --> 00:31:16,922 I lost my dad when I was 14 and I'm still working it out, shrink and all. 287 00:31:21,142 --> 00:31:22,962 Do you fancy a drink? 288 00:31:25,822 --> 00:31:27,782 Yeah, I think I might have gone off duty. 289 00:31:29,422 --> 00:31:33,682 Oh, these trips down memory lane never do me any good at all. 290 00:31:36,182 --> 00:31:40,722 40 years. Old Frank wasn't a bad-looking lad in those days. 291 00:31:43,302 --> 00:31:47,722 And you, as Frank said in his speech, 292 00:31:47,722 --> 00:31:49,802 you were an English rose. 293 00:31:49,802 --> 00:31:55,062 Oh, I know I should have made it up with Frank years ago, 294 00:31:55,062 --> 00:31:57,042 and now he's hasn't got long. 295 00:31:59,142 --> 00:32:01,742 Oh...that picnic. 296 00:32:01,742 --> 00:32:03,662 He got plastered. 297 00:32:03,662 --> 00:32:06,882 I bet that was one lost day in his precious diary. 298 00:32:08,482 --> 00:32:10,702 Of course! 299 00:32:10,702 --> 00:32:14,402 The bugger always kept a diary. 300 00:32:14,402 --> 00:32:18,122 I could get used to a place like this. 301 00:32:18,122 --> 00:32:23,142 Yep, the truth is, I've got it all but I still keep on striving, 302 00:32:23,142 --> 00:32:28,382 churning out the books, sweating over the reviews, totting up the royalties. 303 00:32:28,382 --> 00:32:30,142 You're just like me, 304 00:32:30,142 --> 00:32:36,462 beavering away, waiting for a pat on the head that says, "Yep, you've done enough, Daddy's pleased." 305 00:32:36,462 --> 00:32:39,342 And now it's never going to come. 306 00:32:40,382 --> 00:32:44,082 And...it may never have, anyway. 307 00:32:44,082 --> 00:32:46,462 Surely he'd have been very proud of you? 308 00:32:46,462 --> 00:32:49,682 He'd have hated the stuff I write. 309 00:32:49,682 --> 00:32:53,642 My dad's idea of a good read was Jack London or Maxim Gorky. 310 00:32:53,642 --> 00:32:58,082 He even thought Orwell was a bourgeois sell-out. 311 00:33:00,042 --> 00:33:04,822 Anita, did anything in your father's behaviour suggest to you 312 00:33:04,822 --> 00:33:08,682 that he thought that somebody in his intimate circle was spying on him? 313 00:33:08,682 --> 00:33:14,082 Because at the time, there was this strong suspicion there was an MI5 mole in the union. 314 00:33:15,682 --> 00:33:21,622 I made the tea, I wrote slogans on placards, I wasn't in the loop, Sandra. 315 00:33:36,326 --> 00:33:40,206 Turn that light off! If they're out there, they'll know. 316 00:33:40,206 --> 00:33:42,366 What? Who'll know what? 317 00:33:42,366 --> 00:33:44,226 Shh! 318 00:33:46,226 --> 00:33:50,266 If they're out there watching, they'll know I'm sweeping the house. 319 00:33:50,266 --> 00:33:53,086 Sweeping it? For bugs! 320 00:33:53,086 --> 00:33:56,706 What? Electronic listening devices! 321 00:33:56,706 --> 00:34:02,066 That's ridiculous. Brian, there is nobody watching this house, and you know it. 322 00:34:02,066 --> 00:34:04,966 Esther, I've been a policeman and a unionist. 323 00:34:04,966 --> 00:34:09,546 No-one knows better than I how far these spooks will go to obtain useful information. 324 00:34:09,546 --> 00:34:12,366 You haven't got any useful information. 325 00:34:12,366 --> 00:34:14,926 What? You haven't... 326 00:34:14,926 --> 00:34:18,006 You have not got any useful information. 327 00:34:18,006 --> 00:34:21,206 You've no idea the lengths to which these people will go! 328 00:34:23,886 --> 00:34:26,726 Brian, that looks incredibly dangerous. 329 00:34:28,246 --> 00:34:32,386 You've been throwing your pills away again, haven't you? 330 00:34:32,386 --> 00:34:37,366 Don't be ridiculous. I found one in the plant pot. That was a slug pellet. 331 00:34:37,366 --> 00:34:39,186 There aren't any slugs in my house. 332 00:34:39,186 --> 00:34:41,646 Because they're exceedingly good pellets. 333 00:34:47,206 --> 00:34:48,706 Ohhh! 334 00:34:48,706 --> 00:34:52,646 Come back to bed, Brian. Agh! 335 00:35:34,366 --> 00:35:39,746 Howzat! You see, I'm a great loss to English cricket. 336 00:35:39,746 --> 00:35:42,866 I mean, I've got the talent but no coaching. Morning, Gerry. 337 00:35:42,866 --> 00:35:44,566 What did you do to your head? 338 00:35:44,566 --> 00:35:46,646 Nothing. 339 00:35:46,646 --> 00:35:48,726 I've been talking to Esther. 340 00:35:48,726 --> 00:35:53,026 You've been a very bad boy. Esther gets some daft ideas in her head. 341 00:35:53,026 --> 00:35:55,086 You haven't been taking your medicine. 342 00:35:55,086 --> 00:35:57,966 She doesn't understand, Gerry. 343 00:35:57,966 --> 00:36:01,246 I can't go on poisoning my system with chemicals. 344 00:36:01,246 --> 00:36:06,806 The point is, your system poisons itself if it's left on its own. 345 00:36:06,806 --> 00:36:10,906 Your body's churning out dodgy chemicals. You need these to level it out. 346 00:36:10,906 --> 00:36:13,766 I'm all right, really. No you're not, Brian. 347 00:36:13,766 --> 00:36:17,086 I've got to tell you, mate, you haven't been doing your job. 348 00:36:17,086 --> 00:36:20,486 Oh, come on! No, no, listen. 349 00:36:20,486 --> 00:36:26,746 This team relies on you to do the balls-aching crap, like these accounts. 350 00:36:26,746 --> 00:36:29,366 But you've been dodging the column! 351 00:36:29,366 --> 00:36:31,726 Yeah, well, it's difficult. 352 00:36:31,726 --> 00:36:37,126 It's impossible if you don't look after yourself properly. Now, come on, take this. 353 00:36:38,346 --> 00:36:39,446 Go on. 354 00:36:41,426 --> 00:36:42,686 Here... 355 00:36:44,146 --> 00:36:46,926 ..and no cheating. 356 00:36:53,926 --> 00:36:56,046 Open wide. 357 00:36:57,106 --> 00:36:59,646 No, again, come on, properly. 358 00:37:02,686 --> 00:37:05,046 Yeah, good boy. 359 00:37:05,046 --> 00:37:11,086 Now, we're gonna carry on like this and in no time at all, you'll be back to your old self. 360 00:37:11,086 --> 00:37:13,126 Which is quite bad enough. 361 00:37:29,746 --> 00:37:32,186 SIREN WAILS 362 00:37:40,746 --> 00:37:44,586 He was really bad this morning, so I sent for the ambulance. 363 00:37:44,586 --> 00:37:46,926 Let me know when I can see him. If he'll let me. 364 00:37:46,926 --> 00:37:48,746 Really, he'll want you to. 365 00:37:48,746 --> 00:37:50,686 He was so glad you got in touch. 366 00:37:50,686 --> 00:37:53,126 Thanks, Karen. We'll take care of it. 367 00:37:54,506 --> 00:37:59,066 30th April, 1975, total cheques 368 00:37:59,066 --> 00:38:03,526 and cash received, �2,375.49. 369 00:38:05,246 --> 00:38:07,326 Hold on, hold on, look. 370 00:38:07,326 --> 00:38:13,606 14th May, �2,375.49 paid into bank. 371 00:38:13,606 --> 00:38:15,426 There's a pattern emerging. 372 00:38:15,426 --> 00:38:18,886 Not to me there's not. Morning, Brian. Morning, Gerry. 373 00:38:18,886 --> 00:38:21,286 Morning, Sandra. Morning, Jack. 374 00:38:26,374 --> 00:38:28,434 Got Frank's diaries. 375 00:38:28,434 --> 00:38:31,534 He never used names in his diaries, only initials. 376 00:38:31,534 --> 00:38:36,474 JW, BD, GM, MS, GH. 377 00:38:36,474 --> 00:38:41,394 So, JW - Joe Walsh, BD - Brendan Dyer, GM - George McCready. 378 00:38:41,394 --> 00:38:43,434 What are the other initials? Er, MS. 379 00:38:43,434 --> 00:38:48,974 No, that doesn't ring any bells. Can you check with Dyer about that? Sure. Listen to this, it's a corker. 380 00:38:48,974 --> 00:38:52,154 GM - that's McCready - 381 00:38:52,154 --> 00:38:56,054 "Late for meeting, looking flustered, lipstick on collar. 382 00:38:56,054 --> 00:38:59,194 "GH arrived just after, breathless. 383 00:38:59,194 --> 00:39:02,194 "Halfway through meeting before she realised 384 00:39:02,194 --> 00:39:07,074 "she hadn't done up all her blouse buttons." That's what I call industrial action. 385 00:39:07,074 --> 00:39:12,034 McCready spent his whole life under the suspicion of sexual impropriety. 386 00:39:12,034 --> 00:39:17,114 GH, who's GH? Glynis Heyford. The book-keeper. She's all over these documents. 387 00:39:17,114 --> 00:39:20,734 So we've got the treasurer knocking off the book keeper and 30 years on, 388 00:39:20,734 --> 00:39:24,614 misrepresenting her as an incompetent. Nice man. I've got it! 389 00:39:24,614 --> 00:39:27,374 This is an old-fashioned fraud. 390 00:39:27,374 --> 00:39:29,574 It's called "teeming and lading". 391 00:39:29,574 --> 00:39:33,694 You take money out in cash and you make up the difference 392 00:39:33,694 --> 00:39:37,394 by banking part of next month's income as if it was this month's. 393 00:39:37,394 --> 00:39:42,594 So that's why the banking was done a fortnight after the accounts were recorded. Exactly. 394 00:39:42,594 --> 00:39:44,814 But you can't keep that up long, surely? 395 00:39:44,814 --> 00:39:49,854 If you keep taking cash out, there must be a deficit that next month's income can't cover? 396 00:39:49,854 --> 00:39:53,594 Sure. And if you're not going to be caught out, you need to make up 397 00:39:53,594 --> 00:39:56,974 the deficiency with lump-sum payments from somewhere. 398 00:39:56,974 --> 00:40:03,054 In this case, cheques coming in from a bank that's known to do a lot of business with the Soviet Union. 399 00:40:03,054 --> 00:40:08,614 So Soviet cheques were coming in and cash was surreptitiously being taken out. 400 00:40:08,614 --> 00:40:12,034 Joe Walsh couldn't have set this up, but he should have spotted it. 401 00:40:12,034 --> 00:40:14,654 No, he wasn't into figures, not a man for detail. 402 00:40:14,654 --> 00:40:18,894 The way things were run at the union, it had to be the treasurer 403 00:40:18,894 --> 00:40:21,234 and the book-keeper working together. 404 00:40:21,234 --> 00:40:26,514 I had a workplace liaison with an older woman. 405 00:40:26,514 --> 00:40:31,494 So what? Good grief, people were at it all the time. 406 00:40:31,494 --> 00:40:34,374 We're talking about your complicity in a fraud. 407 00:40:34,374 --> 00:40:40,534 When Joe Walsh was found dead, that seemed to confirm his responsibility for the financial irregularities. 408 00:40:40,534 --> 00:40:45,534 Nobody looked very hard at the evidence, but it is all there. 409 00:40:45,534 --> 00:40:48,254 See if you can get a prosecution going, then. 410 00:40:48,254 --> 00:40:51,034 I know what you'll get from the DPP. 411 00:40:51,034 --> 00:40:54,694 "Not in the public interest." You think you're fireproof. 412 00:40:56,474 --> 00:40:59,954 So you were the MI5 mole in the union? 413 00:40:59,954 --> 00:41:07,074 Joe Walsh was on the verge of bringing down a Labour Government. I did what I thought was right. Mm. 414 00:41:07,074 --> 00:41:09,834 You haven't suffered for it, have you, My Lord? 415 00:41:09,834 --> 00:41:14,534 Joe Walsh wasn't only framed, he died under suspicious circumstances. 416 00:41:14,534 --> 00:41:18,554 We've had a pathologist look at the reports and the photographs 417 00:41:18,554 --> 00:41:24,174 and she says that he could have been struck over the head before he entered the water. 418 00:41:24,174 --> 00:41:25,794 Now, wait a minute. 419 00:41:25,794 --> 00:41:31,174 Since he wasn't responsible for the fraud, he hardly had a motive for suicide. 420 00:41:31,174 --> 00:41:35,194 We're treating this as a murder investigation. Now, now... 421 00:41:35,194 --> 00:41:40,334 I cooked the books for HMG, but I didn't kill Joe. 422 00:41:40,334 --> 00:41:43,834 That day in the office, I went straight to a public meeting. 423 00:41:43,834 --> 00:41:49,254 There were witnesses, minutes taken, even, if I remember right, photographs. 424 00:41:49,254 --> 00:41:50,794 We'll check. 425 00:41:50,794 --> 00:41:53,294 If you must. 426 00:41:53,294 --> 00:41:55,574 But if Joe really was murdered... 427 00:41:57,294 --> 00:41:59,114 Well? 428 00:41:59,114 --> 00:42:03,894 ..I left him with Brendan Dyer the day he died. 429 00:42:03,894 --> 00:42:06,134 Now, there was a man with a motive. 430 00:42:18,742 --> 00:42:22,542 Of course I couldn't have afforded this on what I was earning. 431 00:42:22,542 --> 00:42:27,042 Rose's aunt in New Zealand died and she didn't have any kids so... 432 00:42:27,042 --> 00:42:30,102 she left Rose a tidy little sum for them days. 433 00:42:30,102 --> 00:42:32,042 So, that's one matter cleared up. 434 00:42:32,042 --> 00:42:34,862 Now, we've been going through Frank Benson's diary. 435 00:42:34,862 --> 00:42:40,262 Now, we've identified most of the initials, but there's one that still puzzles us - MS. 436 00:42:40,262 --> 00:42:42,942 MOBILE PHONE RINGS Oh, sorry about that, excuse me. 437 00:42:42,942 --> 00:42:45,122 MS? Yeah. 438 00:42:45,122 --> 00:42:52,622 "MS put his oar in, same old bull, got up JW's nose more than ever." 439 00:42:52,622 --> 00:42:55,142 That'll be Trotsky. 440 00:42:55,142 --> 00:42:57,962 Trotsky? That's what Joe called him. 441 00:42:57,962 --> 00:43:00,322 Mark somebody. Mark Seroyan, that's it. 442 00:43:00,322 --> 00:43:04,622 Seroyan? He was a student. Fancied himself as a political activist. 443 00:43:04,622 --> 00:43:08,242 Was always flogging newspapers down the dock gates. 444 00:43:08,242 --> 00:43:12,402 Then when the strike kicked off, well, it was all over us, right? 445 00:43:12,402 --> 00:43:14,862 So we let him do the photocopying, make the tea, 446 00:43:14,862 --> 00:43:18,122 because he loved it and we needed all the help we could get. 447 00:43:18,122 --> 00:43:21,282 I think he thought it was Act One of the Revolution. 448 00:43:21,282 --> 00:43:23,862 And Joe Walsh didn't like him? Nah. 449 00:43:25,467 --> 00:43:28,387 Joe was on strike in order to save the docks, right? 450 00:43:28,387 --> 00:43:35,127 The last thing he needed was some kid running around winding the lads up to make impossible demands. 451 00:43:35,127 --> 00:43:38,487 He would've gone ballistic if he'd known about Anita. 452 00:43:38,487 --> 00:43:42,487 Known what? Well, Anita and him had a bit of a do together, you know? 453 00:43:42,487 --> 00:43:47,267 And Joe didn't know? Like I said, there'd have been trouble if he had. 454 00:43:47,267 --> 00:43:49,167 Brendan, we'll have to talk to Rose. 455 00:43:49,167 --> 00:43:54,107 She's at home packing. I'll write the address down for you. Thanks. 456 00:43:54,107 --> 00:43:57,347 You'll have to be quick, we are catching the evening tide. 457 00:43:58,507 --> 00:44:04,587 (You hope.) McCready told Sandra that Joe Walsh and Rose were having a bit of a thing. 458 00:44:04,587 --> 00:44:07,067 Christ, I miss the '70s! 459 00:44:07,067 --> 00:44:11,347 Sandra, yeah, we've identified MS. 460 00:44:11,347 --> 00:44:14,187 A guy called Mark Seroyan. 461 00:44:14,187 --> 00:44:18,827 And we've just been told that he was having a thing with Anita Walsh. 462 00:44:18,827 --> 00:44:24,747 He's in for �20 million by Friday or he's out. I've got investors fighting for a piece of this stadium. 463 00:44:24,747 --> 00:44:28,207 They're in the office right now. 464 00:44:28,207 --> 00:44:30,787 Well, the ball's in his court. 465 00:44:30,787 --> 00:44:34,927 The Olympics are doing wonders for the East End, I believe, Mr Seroyan. 466 00:44:34,927 --> 00:44:37,807 Well, if you take the risks, you deserve the rewards. 467 00:44:37,807 --> 00:44:39,927 The revolution's been postponed, then? 468 00:44:39,927 --> 00:44:43,707 Capitalism IS revolution. Marx understood that. 469 00:44:43,707 --> 00:44:47,547 Look at the docklands 30 years ago and the docklands today. 470 00:44:47,547 --> 00:44:51,307 "All that is solid melts into air." 471 00:44:51,307 --> 00:44:53,787 "All that is holy is profaned." 472 00:44:53,787 --> 00:44:56,387 Communist Manifesto, 1848. 473 00:44:56,387 --> 00:44:58,547 But that's not what we're here about. 474 00:44:58,547 --> 00:45:03,107 You were involved with the Crane Drivers' Union at the time of Joe Walsh's death. 475 00:45:03,107 --> 00:45:08,207 That's putting it strongly. I was trying to influence the line the union took, 476 00:45:08,207 --> 00:45:10,547 and quite frankly, I wasn't very successful. 477 00:45:10,547 --> 00:45:13,287 Which is no bad thing in the light of history. 478 00:45:13,287 --> 00:45:17,827 We understand there was friction between you and Joe Walsh. Ha-ha! 479 00:45:17,827 --> 00:45:22,247 At the time, I would have called it, comradely disagreement. 480 00:45:22,247 --> 00:45:24,487 Anita Walsh. 481 00:45:24,487 --> 00:45:26,667 Ah, Anita. 482 00:45:26,667 --> 00:45:29,427 Hasn't that kid done well? 483 00:45:29,427 --> 00:45:31,467 I think she might be worth more than me. 484 00:45:31,467 --> 00:45:33,307 You had a relationship with her. 485 00:45:33,307 --> 00:45:35,947 Student holds hands with schoolgirl. 486 00:45:35,947 --> 00:45:37,947 Not what I'd call a relationship. 487 00:45:37,947 --> 00:45:40,227 Where were you the night Joe Walsh died? 488 00:45:40,227 --> 00:45:42,327 With Anita actually. 489 00:45:42,327 --> 00:45:44,027 I, er... 490 00:45:44,027 --> 00:45:48,067 I dragged her off to an Italian film, The Organiser. 491 00:45:48,067 --> 00:45:51,867 Marcello Mastroianni as a 19th-century trade unionist. 492 00:45:51,867 --> 00:45:53,947 We snogged in the back row. 493 00:45:55,527 --> 00:45:57,347 Ask her. 494 00:45:57,347 --> 00:45:59,467 I thought we were totally discreet. 495 00:45:59,467 --> 00:46:02,647 When you're playing away, someone always clocks it. 496 00:46:02,647 --> 00:46:05,687 So you're confirming that you had an affair with Joe Walsh? 497 00:46:08,107 --> 00:46:10,567 They say power's an aphrodisiac. 498 00:46:12,247 --> 00:46:14,427 It worked for me. 499 00:46:14,427 --> 00:46:17,687 Joe was a very impressive man. Did Brendan know? 500 00:46:17,687 --> 00:46:20,487 No. Does he know now? 501 00:46:23,567 --> 00:46:27,087 If it had been anyone else I would have told him, 502 00:46:27,087 --> 00:46:32,247 and I would have felt better in my conscience for doing so. 503 00:46:32,247 --> 00:46:34,107 But Brendan worshipped Joe. 504 00:46:35,407 --> 00:46:37,807 He loved him far more than I ever did. 505 00:46:37,807 --> 00:46:42,867 It would have been like taking something precious from him. 506 00:46:42,867 --> 00:46:45,627 Well, we're going to have to put it to Brendan now. 507 00:46:47,067 --> 00:46:49,687 We're looking at motives for murder. 508 00:46:52,987 --> 00:46:55,627 Well, I'll tell him. 509 00:46:57,607 --> 00:47:00,987 No, I'm sorry. That's not how it works. 510 00:47:00,987 --> 00:47:06,087 Brendan, this is going to be very difficult for you, but there's no way I can wrap it up. 511 00:47:06,087 --> 00:47:10,407 When did you find out that Rose and Joe Walsh were having an affair? 512 00:47:10,407 --> 00:47:13,287 You what? Rose confirmed it. 513 00:47:13,287 --> 00:47:17,167 No, you're lying. No, Brendan. 514 00:47:17,167 --> 00:47:18,927 Well, I want to talk to Rose then. 515 00:47:18,927 --> 00:47:22,727 Yes, I can appreciate that, but it's important that you talk to us first. 516 00:47:22,727 --> 00:47:24,427 This is a murder inquiry. 517 00:47:24,427 --> 00:47:26,987 You... 518 00:47:26,987 --> 00:47:28,987 You can't... 519 00:47:28,987 --> 00:47:32,507 You can't live with somebody for 30 years and just not know 'em. 520 00:47:32,507 --> 00:47:35,227 That's the question. Did you know at the time? 521 00:47:35,227 --> 00:47:38,187 Of course not! Or everything would have been different. 522 00:47:38,187 --> 00:47:40,367 Maybe everything WAS different. 523 00:47:40,367 --> 00:47:46,767 Maybe you've been painting a picture all these years, protecting the memory of a fallen comrade. No! 524 00:47:46,767 --> 00:47:51,867 Did you kill Joe Walsh? No, no, I didn't know anything about this. 525 00:47:51,867 --> 00:47:55,947 You two have just blown my whole world apart! 526 00:48:00,667 --> 00:48:04,067 In your last interview, you said that on the night Joe Walsh died, 527 00:48:04,067 --> 00:48:08,547 you left him in the office while you went off to a meeting. Who was that meeting with? 528 00:48:08,547 --> 00:48:15,687 Well, we were talking to the miners and the railwaymen's union about them coming out in sympathy. 529 00:48:15,687 --> 00:48:17,367 It all had to be done on the quiet, 530 00:48:17,367 --> 00:48:21,527 you know, because we just assumed that the union was being spied on. 531 00:48:21,527 --> 00:48:26,767 And can anyone you met confirm this? Yeah, um... 532 00:48:26,767 --> 00:48:29,007 well, er... 533 00:48:29,007 --> 00:48:34,407 We are talking about the leadership of these unions 30 years ago. 534 00:48:34,407 --> 00:48:35,987 They're all dead. 535 00:48:35,987 --> 00:48:41,747 Yeah. Brendan, your alibi is that you had a secret meeting with people who are no longer with us. 536 00:48:41,747 --> 00:48:43,687 My alibi? 537 00:48:44,474 --> 00:48:46,874 Mark Seroyan? Where did you drag him up from? 538 00:48:46,874 --> 00:48:50,174 He says you were at the pictures together on the night your father died. 539 00:48:51,294 --> 00:48:57,474 It's not something you're likely to forget, is it? So you can confirm that? Sure. 540 00:48:57,474 --> 00:49:04,094 I spent the entire evening watching heroic workers battling against the repressive state apparatus, 541 00:49:04,094 --> 00:49:09,494 as if I didn't get enough of that at home, whilst being groped by a spotty student who smelt of baked beans. 542 00:49:09,494 --> 00:49:14,474 The first in a long line of romantic disappointments. 543 00:49:14,474 --> 00:49:19,294 Brendan was miles away, the night Joe died. I made sure of that... 544 00:49:19,294 --> 00:49:22,274 because Joe and I were together. 545 00:49:22,274 --> 00:49:25,034 Where was this? 546 00:49:25,034 --> 00:49:28,574 In his office. That's where we always met. 547 00:49:29,954 --> 00:49:31,874 So you were together? 548 00:49:31,874 --> 00:49:35,734 Yes. And the doorbell rang, 549 00:49:35,734 --> 00:49:38,134 but we ignored it. 550 00:49:38,134 --> 00:49:43,674 And it kept on ringing, then there was banging on the door and it was this young lad, Mark. 551 00:49:43,674 --> 00:49:45,454 They used to call him Trotsky. 552 00:49:45,454 --> 00:49:51,094 Joe said I should go but I wanted to know what was going on, so I stayed. 553 00:49:51,094 --> 00:49:52,754 And Mark seemed... 554 00:49:52,754 --> 00:49:54,754 very scared. 555 00:49:54,754 --> 00:49:59,094 He wanted to talk to Joe about Anita. 556 00:49:59,094 --> 00:50:02,234 Apparently, they'd been having a relationship. 557 00:50:02,234 --> 00:50:05,714 I'm not your comrade, you pathetic little...! 558 00:50:05,714 --> 00:50:08,794 You're telling me you've been sniffing round my daughter? 559 00:50:08,794 --> 00:50:10,614 Joe was really losing it. 560 00:50:10,614 --> 00:50:14,114 So what did you do then? I was afraid something awful might happen. 561 00:50:14,114 --> 00:50:15,694 Joe had a terrible temper. 562 00:50:17,494 --> 00:50:19,574 Come on, you little toe rag! 563 00:50:19,574 --> 00:50:22,274 And I kept thinking I should do something. 564 00:50:22,274 --> 00:50:26,454 And then Anita suddenly turned up out of nowhere. 565 00:50:26,454 --> 00:50:30,654 Dad, for God's sake, you're killing him! Get off! 566 00:50:31,994 --> 00:50:33,054 Get him off me! 567 00:50:36,894 --> 00:50:38,354 And he goes down. 568 00:50:40,794 --> 00:50:43,534 Dad, Dad, please! 569 00:50:44,854 --> 00:50:46,254 I've killed him! 570 00:50:46,254 --> 00:50:50,514 And then, the... two of them are talking. 571 00:50:50,514 --> 00:50:54,554 Anita, please, leave this with me. I've killed him! 572 00:50:54,554 --> 00:50:57,114 Come here, just go. Go! 573 00:50:57,114 --> 00:50:59,874 You were never here, understand? 574 00:50:59,874 --> 00:51:01,414 Just go, go! 575 00:51:03,934 --> 00:51:06,414 Anita ran off and so did I. 576 00:51:06,414 --> 00:51:09,534 But you never did anything or told anyone? 577 00:51:09,534 --> 00:51:11,874 He was dead. 578 00:51:11,874 --> 00:51:13,614 What good could I have done? 579 00:51:13,614 --> 00:51:17,454 And think of the harm. Harm to Brendan, harm to Anita. 580 00:51:17,454 --> 00:51:21,534 Think about it. You should have gone to the police, Rose. 581 00:51:21,534 --> 00:51:26,814 Don't you think I've questioned what I did every single day of my life for the last 30 years? 582 00:51:35,354 --> 00:51:38,594 OK, Jack. Yeah, thanks, bye. 583 00:51:38,594 --> 00:51:43,454 I'm sorry, Anita, but I'm going to have to ask you to accompany us to the station. 584 00:51:43,454 --> 00:51:44,994 What? 585 00:51:44,994 --> 00:51:50,694 I'm arresting you on suspicion of murdering Joseph Walsh. You do not have to say anything... 586 00:51:50,694 --> 00:51:55,954 I know that by heart. I've written it enough times. You could make a macro of it. 587 00:51:55,954 --> 00:51:59,414 Then you'd only have to hit the one key. Let's go. 588 00:52:01,754 --> 00:52:07,014 A witness puts you on the quayside with Walsh, unconscious, perhaps dead. 589 00:52:07,014 --> 00:52:08,794 Did you put him in the river? 590 00:52:08,794 --> 00:52:12,394 That's not quite how it was. 591 00:52:13,974 --> 00:52:16,694 After Anita went, I... 592 00:52:16,694 --> 00:52:18,894 I threw the pipe 593 00:52:18,894 --> 00:52:20,794 into the river. 594 00:52:20,794 --> 00:52:25,714 I thought, I don't know, fingerprints, evidence, I wanted to confuse things. 595 00:52:25,714 --> 00:52:28,734 I needed to make it look like an accident, 596 00:52:28,734 --> 00:52:32,634 so I decided to pull Joe's body... 597 00:52:32,634 --> 00:52:34,954 into the water too. 598 00:52:50,014 --> 00:52:51,154 Come on, you little...! 599 00:53:00,834 --> 00:53:02,454 It was an accident. 600 00:53:02,454 --> 00:53:04,714 He lost his balance. 601 00:53:07,834 --> 00:53:11,394 He never came up again. Did Anita know about this? 602 00:53:13,534 --> 00:53:13,634 I only spoke to her the once... 603 00:53:13,634 --> 00:53:17,354 to make sure we were on the same page about where we were that night. 604 00:53:22,114 --> 00:53:26,254 I wanted to tell her what happened, try to explain, but... 605 00:53:26,254 --> 00:53:28,434 she was so angry with me. 606 00:53:28,434 --> 00:53:30,914 You didn't tell her he wasn't already dead? 607 00:53:30,914 --> 00:53:32,394 I couldn't. 608 00:53:34,134 --> 00:53:37,114 How could I tell her what I'd done? 609 00:53:37,114 --> 00:53:38,914 We didn't speak again. 610 00:53:41,034 --> 00:53:43,314 You mean I didn't kill him? 611 00:53:43,314 --> 00:53:47,014 No. He was alive when you left the scene. 612 00:53:48,774 --> 00:53:53,254 Whether the injury was ultimately the cause of death, I can't decide on that, 613 00:53:53,254 --> 00:53:56,674 but we'll submit a report to the Crown Prosecution Service, 614 00:53:56,674 --> 00:54:00,094 and then they'll decide who gets charged with what. 615 00:54:01,674 --> 00:54:04,454 A 30-year nightmare. 616 00:55:04,369 --> 00:55:06,669 First thing this morning. 617 00:55:06,669 --> 00:55:09,489 It's a result, but not the one I expected. 618 00:55:09,489 --> 00:55:11,329 Yes, well... 619 00:55:11,329 --> 00:55:14,089 you look after yourself, Frank. 620 00:55:16,029 --> 00:55:17,469 Jack... 621 00:55:20,109 --> 00:55:24,849 ..I never told you... how sorry I was about...Mary. 622 00:55:24,849 --> 00:55:27,049 Yeah, well, you don't need to. 623 00:55:27,049 --> 00:55:30,729 I was more than sorry, Jack. I was heartbroken. 624 00:55:33,489 --> 00:55:35,709 I can say it now. 625 00:55:35,709 --> 00:55:37,689 I was in love with her. 626 00:55:37,689 --> 00:55:40,249 Ever and always. 627 00:55:40,249 --> 00:55:44,589 Look, you don't have to... I do, I need to tell you. 628 00:55:45,769 --> 00:55:48,689 I tried to take her from you. 629 00:55:48,689 --> 00:55:50,789 Bloody hopeless. 630 00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:53,989 She did nothing wrong, it was all on my side. 631 00:55:53,989 --> 00:55:58,349 She kept it a secret because of our friendship. 632 00:55:59,409 --> 00:56:01,669 Not the strike, then? Nah. 633 00:56:03,269 --> 00:56:08,129 20 years of having the world's happiest couple shoved in my face, 634 00:56:08,129 --> 00:56:10,469 I couldn't take it any more. 635 00:56:23,524 --> 00:56:26,144 She was... Yes. 636 00:56:28,044 --> 00:56:30,764 Best not leave it so long next time, eh, Jack? 637 00:56:32,644 --> 00:56:34,124 Best not. 638 00:56:41,004 --> 00:56:44,784 So, I suppose you think you're a bit of a dark horse, eh, Mary? 639 00:56:46,364 --> 00:56:48,644 Well, actually, I knew all along. 640 00:56:48,644 --> 00:56:50,604 I'm a detective, remember? 641 00:56:50,604 --> 00:56:53,264 You didn't deceive me. 642 00:56:53,264 --> 00:56:57,704 So, you've no secrets, no reason to feel guilty. 643 00:56:59,624 --> 00:57:02,644 You just sleep easy, eh? 644 00:57:02,644 --> 00:57:04,104 Good night, love. 645 00:57:06,864 --> 00:57:09,424 # It's all right, it's OK 646 00:57:09,424 --> 00:57:12,764 # Doesn't really matter if you're old and grey 647 00:57:12,764 --> 00:57:14,884 # It's all right, I say it's OK 648 00:57:14,884 --> 00:57:17,364 # Listen to what I say 56725

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