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- In some ways, they made their
most ambitious record yet,
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and ambition is not
synonymous with record sales.
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(laughs) You know?
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I mean, this is not,
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this is a masterful,
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dense, artistic statement.
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It could bomb.
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(music rewinding)
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- I need more piano.
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- [Producer] Less noise?
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- [Jeff Tweedy] Less noise.
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- [Producer] Yeah, I
could take less noise.
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- [Glenn Kotche] One, two, three.
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♪ It's my father's voice, trailing off ♪
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♪ Sailors sailin' off in the morning ♪
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♪ For the air-conditioned rooms ♪
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♪ At top of the stairs ♪
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♪ His jaw's been broken ♪
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♪ And his bandage is wrapped too tight ♪
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♪ His fangs have been pulled ♪
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♪ And I really wanna see you tonight ♪
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No, I'm sorry.
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(rain pouring)
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(acoustic guitar strumming)
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♪ I am an American aquarium drinker ♪
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♪ I assassin down the avenue ♪
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♪ I'm hiding out in
the big city blinkin' ♪
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♪ What was I thinkin'
when I let go of you ♪
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♪ Let's forget about the
tongue-tied lightning ♪
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♪ Let's undress just like
cross-eyed strangers ♪
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♪ This is not a joke so
please stop smilin' ♪
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♪ What was I thinkin' when
I said it didn't hurt ♪
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♪ I wanna crawl through
those brown eyes dreamin' ♪
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♪ Take you from the inside ♪
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♪ Baby hold on tight ♪
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♪ But you were so right when
you said I been drinkin' ♪
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♪ What was I thinkin'
when we said goodnight ♪
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♪ I am tryin' to break your heart ♪
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♪ I am trying to break your heart ♪
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♪ Yet still I would be lying
if I said it wasn't easy ♪
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♪ I am trying to break your heart ♪
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- [Jeff] What are you doing?
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- Hello. (laughs)
- Hello.
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Welcome to our movie.
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We are going to be seeing lots of film
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about Wilco today.
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- I gotta say, we're pretty
lucky that I think Wilco
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is in a position
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where they can make the
record they wanna make.
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I mean, there is definitely...
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I don't know if I'd call it pressure,
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but there's definitely a feeling
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that this is sort of the moment.
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- [Jeff] They are very funny guys.
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- [Jay Bennett] (laughs)
Give him a cigarette.
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- [Jeff] Oh, yeah, yeah.
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I need a piece of gum.
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- I think,
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and of course hope,
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that this record is gonna
be a pretty big priority
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for Warner when it comes out,
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and you don't get that every
time you put a record out.
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- [Jeff] So, anyway, I was touring,
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was touring on the road with Wilco.
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(group laughs)
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Oh, here's your gum back.
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(drumsticks banging)
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(opening notes of Ashes of American Flags)
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- [Glenn] One, two...
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♪ The cash machine ♪
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♪ Is blue and green ♪
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♪ For a hundred in twenties ♪
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♪ And a small service fee ♪
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♪ I could spend three dollars ♪
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♪ And 63 cents ♪
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♪ On Diet Coca-Cola ♪
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♪ And unlit cigarettes ♪
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♪ I wonder why we listen to poets ♪
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♪ When nobody gives a fuck ♪
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♪ How hot and sorrowful, ♪
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♪ This machine begs for luck ♪
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♪ All my lies are always wishes ♪
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♪ I know I would die if
I could come back new ♪
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- You know, there are
two kinds of potential.
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There's artistic potential
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which I think for them is unlimited,
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and there is commercial potential
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which is really quite mysterious to us
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because there are so many factors
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that are out of your control,
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and we try not to think about it too much
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and just try, you know,
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try to make a great
record, and hope, and push
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the label to make the right decisions
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and do the right things
promotion-wise and so on.
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- This is an interactive band.
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These are four, five people, you know,
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who make music together,
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and the music wouldn't
sound the way it does
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unless these five people
are together in the room
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at the same time making the music.
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- It's a constant process.
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I mean, we make records and they're, um...
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That ends up being a thing,
you know, that you're making,
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and you have a million options
as to what that thing can be
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and what shape it can be.
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(drums banging)
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(piano playing)
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We generally go for a pretty
straight definitive version
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of what the song sounds like it should be,
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and then deconstruct it a little bit,
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and see if there's some more exciting way
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to approach it.
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♪ Echoes in my heart ♪
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♪ Gravel in my palm ♪
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There's no reason at all,
not to destroy it, you know?
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We made it, so it's ours to destroy,
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and that's liberating and
exciting in a really creative way.
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(upbeat music)
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♪ I need a camera ♪
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♪ To my eye ♪
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♪ To my eye, reminding ♪
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♪ Which lies have I been hiding ♪
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♪ Which echoes belong ♪
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♪ I'm counting out ♪
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♪ The days in Central Park ♪
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♪ With gravel in my heart ♪
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♪ With echoes in my palm ♪
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♪ Phone my family ♪
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♪ Tell 'em I'm lost on the sidewalk ♪
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♪ And no it's not okay ♪
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♪ I smashed a camera ♪
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♪ I wanna know why ♪
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♪ To my eyes, reminding ♪
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♪ Which lies have I been hiding ♪
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♪ Which echoes belong ♪
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♪ I'm counting out ♪
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♪ The days in Central Park ♪
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♪ With echoes in my heart ♪
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♪ With gravel in my palm ♪
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I think this record's more
of a leap for the band.
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This is probably the closest
to pure collaboration
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Wilco has ever got.
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- And personally, I'm really happy
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'cause Jeff and I have done
a lot of this stuff together.
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This is the first time
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that Jeff and I have
made a conscious effort
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to get together at the
loft and write songs.
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- Not that things don't
happen spontaneously
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with the Wilco recordings,
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but there is a lot of
conferring with each other,
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a lot of deliberation, a lot
of, like Jeff was talking,
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destroying what we've done,
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trying it from the backdoor,
turning it upside down.
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♪ I'm counting out ♪
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♪ The days to see how far ♪
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♪ I've driven in the dark ♪
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♪ With echoes in my heart ♪
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♪ Phone my family ♪
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♪ Tell 'em I'm lost on the sidewalk ♪
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♪ And no it's not okay ♪
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♪ No it's not okay ♪
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♪ No it's not okay ♪
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Uh, okay.
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- It's the first record
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where we've really done
everything ourselves.
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And now, we're engineering it ourselves,
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and we're doing it in our space.
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We're doing two seemingly
contradictory things.
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We're making a record in
a very relaxed environment
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with no outside input,
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but at the same time,
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we're accepting a certain kind of pressure
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that we're putting on ourselves.
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- I mean, it's nice not to
have a producer from Wilco
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because we're all, any one
of us, perfectly capable of
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directing or shaping a musical moment.
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- Everything is just kind of set up,
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I mean, to just keep making records.
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- I know it's cool to bitch
about your record label,
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you know?
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But, I mean, they're
letting us make a record
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in our loft, and they
haven't heard a word of it.
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(laughs)
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They're giving us $85,000,
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and they haven't heard a word it.
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You know? That's trust, right?
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They trust us.
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You're always playing the...
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You're pretty much doing one,
five, six, four on all the...
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A lot of times when you're playing,
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if you don't have any
sonic landscape behind you,
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everything turns into a folk song.
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That's pretty much what you do right?
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- Yeah.
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(guitar playing)
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- We just wanted it to not
sound like a little folk ditty,
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you know?
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So we wanted to have just
some kind of sonic weight
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under all of that, and uh,
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just something kinda weird and fucked up.
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♪ It's my father's voice trailing off ♪
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♪ Sailors sailing off in the morning ♪
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♪ For the air-conditioned rooms ♪
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♪ At the top of the stairs ♪
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- Tune the A string to a B flat and it...
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♪ It makes no difference to me ♪
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- And then you put them together,
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and you'll get some
really magical moments.
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♪ Cried all over, overseas ♪
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♪ When it's hot in the
poor places tonight ♪
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♪ I'm not going outside ♪
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- And we thought that might
be rhythmic enough to play to.
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(drums banging)
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♪ There's bourbon on the breath ♪
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♪ Of the singer you love ♪
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- It's kind of, along with
some of the more noise tracks,
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but it's rhythmic, so it's something
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that they can play along to.
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♪ He takes all his words from the books ♪
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♪ That you don't read anyway ♪
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- It's about three in the morning.
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We're either gonna get something great
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or lose our fucking minds.
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All these things are just
blaring in here, you know?
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That's when it all kind of exploded.
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♪ They cried all over, overseas ♪
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♪ It makes no difference to me ♪
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♪ When it's hot in the
poor places tonight ♪
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♪ I'm not going outside ♪
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(piano playing)
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♪ And it takes all the breath out of me ♪
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♪ When I cry all over, overseas ♪
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♪ When it's hot in the
poor places tonight ♪
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♪ I'm not going outside ♪
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♪ It's hot in the poor places tonight ♪
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♪ I'm not going outside ♪
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♪ I'm not going outside ♪
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♪ I'm not going outside ♪
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(instruments blaring)
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- [Female Shortwave Radio
Voice] Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.
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Yankee
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Hotel
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Foxtrot.
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Yankee
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Hotel
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Foxtrot.
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(car honking)
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(harmonica playing)
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- Hey, how you doing, man?
- Good to see you.
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- (speaking in Spanish)
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One, two, three.
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One, two, three, call it Rock and...
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So, with the community
that you are doing now,
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did you play music...
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Do you think that your music
reaches out to the children
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who don't have a fighting chance?
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- Um...
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♪ The moment you know ... ♪
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♪ It's not even half as nice as you ♪
264
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♪ Set my sights on one whispery kiss. ♪
265
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I'll sign that.
266
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If you know how to spell Simone.
- S-I-M-O-N-E?
267
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- [Tony] That sounds like right, yeah.
268
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- [Jeff] Real pal.
269
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- Your record...
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I have an idea.
271
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Does it come out on compact disc?
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- Mmhmm.
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♪ Dreamed about killing
you again last night ♪
274
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♪ And it felt all right to me ♪
275
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♪ Dying on the banks
of Embarcadero skies ♪
276
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♪ I sat and watched you bleed ♪
277
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- Seriously, let's just do a lot
278
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of good crowd control tonight, and,
279
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you know, bring up the
whole political thing.
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Just fucking...
281
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Yeah, the whole thing
about women's rights,
282
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lesbian's rights, and stuff like that.
283
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- I'm gonna play to it.
284
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I'm gonna play to the crowd.
285
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- Cool.
- There's um--
286
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- 'Cause you know, I mean,
the DOW is down about 30%,
287
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you know, and soon as I
looked at that I just knew
288
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that we know what kinda
position you're in and stuff.
289
00:17:57,785 --> 00:17:59,858
- I've gotta kiss some major ass to...
290
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You know to get it...
291
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To get... my portfolio back together.
292
00:18:03,910 --> 00:18:06,594
- Totally, totally.
- You know?
293
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I have...
- I hear you, man.
294
00:18:08,730 --> 00:18:09,563
Totally.
295
00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,420
- I canned my stockbroker.
296
00:18:12,420 --> 00:18:14,210
- Yeah.
- Two weeks ago.
297
00:18:14,210 --> 00:18:16,544
- How's the place out
in the Hampton's, good?
298
00:18:16,544 --> 00:18:18,010
- Hmm, it's a fixer upper.
299
00:18:18,010 --> 00:18:20,630
I mean, the pool is shit.
300
00:18:20,630 --> 00:18:21,850
It's gotta be replaced.
- Spielberg told me,
301
00:18:21,850 --> 00:18:23,080
he told me, "I went over to Jeff's,"
302
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you know, 'cause he knows
that your fucking music
303
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is all big bullshit thing.
304
00:18:26,020 --> 00:18:26,853
- Right.
- And he was just like,
305
00:18:26,853 --> 00:18:28,263
"I saw his fucking pool," you know,
306
00:18:28,263 --> 00:18:30,440
and he was just, uh...
307
00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:31,273
He's funny.
308
00:18:31,273 --> 00:18:33,075
You know, he reminds me a lot of you.
309
00:18:33,075 --> 00:18:34,242
You are stupid
310
00:18:35,336 --> 00:18:38,919
(music drowns out speaker)
311
00:18:39,923 --> 00:18:43,066
Was that mean or racist, you would say?
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♪ Snipers are harder to see my friends ♪
313
00:18:50,896 --> 00:18:55,896
♪ Weeding out your weekend ♪
314
00:19:00,468 --> 00:19:04,009
♪ Summer comes and gravity undoes you ♪
315
00:19:04,009 --> 00:19:09,009
♪ You're happy because the
lovely way the sunshine bends ♪
316
00:19:11,958 --> 00:19:13,918
♪ Hiding from your close friends ♪
317
00:19:13,918 --> 00:19:15,878
♪ Weeding out your weekends ♪
318
00:19:15,878 --> 00:19:18,628
(crowd cheering)
319
00:19:23,828 --> 00:19:27,545
♪ Candy left over from Halloween ♪
320
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♪ A unified theory of everything ♪
321
00:19:31,697 --> 00:19:35,638
♪ Love left over from lovers leaving ♪
322
00:19:35,638 --> 00:19:40,638
♪ Books, they all know
they're not worth reading ♪
323
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♪ It's not for the season ♪
324
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That's a...
325
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(crowd cheering)
326
00:19:48,668 --> 00:19:53,668
One of the new songs.
327
00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,163
From our upcoming Wilco record.
328
00:20:05,057 --> 00:20:07,918
We sound nothing like that
329
00:20:07,918 --> 00:20:09,085
on the record.
330
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:13,560
Poetry?
331
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,358
Are you saying that my lyrics are poetry?
332
00:20:16,358 --> 00:20:18,270
(crowd laughs)
333
00:20:18,270 --> 00:20:19,183
I like you.
334
00:20:24,857 --> 00:20:28,324
Here's some more poetry
for you. (crowd laughs)
335
00:20:30,358 --> 00:20:33,460
- I wanted to go out and
play some shows acoustically.
336
00:20:33,460 --> 00:20:34,943
It seemed like a good time to do it.
337
00:20:34,943 --> 00:20:36,980
We haven't really toured for awhile,
338
00:20:36,980 --> 00:20:38,870
and record's still being made,
339
00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:40,480
and took a little break from the record
340
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,453
to go play some music
and see how things go.
341
00:20:44,678 --> 00:20:48,095
(Jeff playing harmonica)
342
00:21:02,504 --> 00:21:07,504
♪ There are rows and rows of houses ♪
343
00:21:09,102 --> 00:21:14,102
♪ With windows painted blue ♪
344
00:21:17,614 --> 00:21:22,614
♪ With the light from the TV ♪
345
00:21:26,402 --> 00:21:31,402
♪ Running parallel to you ♪
346
00:21:34,844 --> 00:21:39,844
♪ There is no sunken treasure ♪
347
00:21:43,744 --> 00:21:46,411
♪ Rumored to be ♪
348
00:21:51,290 --> 00:21:52,983
- Jeff, you remember Scott?
349
00:21:52,983 --> 00:21:53,901
- How are you?
350
00:21:53,901 --> 00:21:54,734
Yeah, how you doing?
351
00:21:54,734 --> 00:21:56,754
- Great job, man.
- Well thanks.
352
00:21:56,754 --> 00:21:57,587
Watch out.
353
00:21:57,587 --> 00:21:58,703
- Know my friend Sarah?
354
00:21:58,703 --> 00:22:00,531
- Yeah, yeah.
355
00:22:00,531 --> 00:22:05,531
♪ In a sea ♪
356
00:22:08,703 --> 00:22:10,802
♪ Black with ink ♪
357
00:22:10,802 --> 00:22:12,239
- Nice to meet you, I work at WEA.
358
00:22:12,239 --> 00:22:14,965
- Hey, thank you.
- Jeff, looks great.
359
00:22:14,965 --> 00:22:17,456
- This is the WEA contigent.
- Mitch? Alright.
360
00:22:17,456 --> 00:22:18,854
All WEA folks?
361
00:22:18,854 --> 00:22:20,687
- Not all.
362
00:22:20,687 --> 00:22:22,295
Hoyt, from Last Record Store
363
00:22:22,295 --> 00:22:23,923
in Santa Rosa, California.
364
00:22:23,923 --> 00:22:25,102
- Pushing Wilco all the way.
365
00:22:25,102 --> 00:22:25,935
- All right.
366
00:22:25,935 --> 00:22:30,873
♪ Fold it over ♪
367
00:22:30,873 --> 00:22:35,873
♪ If I had a boat ♪
368
00:22:39,147 --> 00:22:44,147
♪ I'd probably ♪
369
00:22:47,307 --> 00:22:49,650
♪ Roll over ♪
370
00:22:49,650 --> 00:22:51,407
- Hey, is the new record more like,
371
00:22:52,437 --> 00:22:53,710
is it gonna be more like A.M.,
372
00:22:53,710 --> 00:22:58,150
or is it gonna be more like Summerteeth?
373
00:22:58,150 --> 00:23:00,950
- Uh, it's really not
that much like either one
374
00:23:00,950 --> 00:23:02,020
of those records,
375
00:23:02,020 --> 00:23:04,500
I don't think, so.
- Ooh. Really?
376
00:23:05,730 --> 00:23:10,730
♪ Surely there's somebody ♪
377
00:23:12,090 --> 00:23:17,090
♪ Who needs ♪
378
00:23:19,374 --> 00:23:20,207
♪ It more than me ♪
379
00:23:20,207 --> 00:23:21,744
- [Fan] It sounded like it was
a trip hop album or something
380
00:23:21,744 --> 00:23:23,830
with tape loops and samples.
381
00:23:23,830 --> 00:23:24,690
- There are those things,
382
00:23:24,690 --> 00:23:27,407
but it's not like a trip hop record.
383
00:23:28,666 --> 00:23:33,226
♪ I am so ♪
384
00:23:33,226 --> 00:23:37,727
♪ I am so ♪
385
00:23:37,727 --> 00:23:42,727
♪ Out of tune ♪
386
00:23:46,106 --> 00:23:51,106
♪ I am so ♪
387
00:23:51,184 --> 00:23:55,247
♪ Out of tune ♪
388
00:23:55,247 --> 00:23:57,497
♪ With you ♪
389
00:24:02,775 --> 00:24:05,470
I'm happy with it, and
we're almost done with it,
390
00:24:05,470 --> 00:24:09,535
so just have to wait another month or so.
391
00:24:09,535 --> 00:24:11,240
Month or two months.
392
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,210
- And you guys are gonna
tour on that straight away?
393
00:24:13,210 --> 00:24:15,141
- Maybe, I don't know.
394
00:24:16,410 --> 00:24:18,800
Well, hopefully it'll come out in July.
395
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,810
It's, um...
396
00:24:22,250 --> 00:24:26,357
It's got a lot of the drums and holes,
397
00:24:26,357 --> 00:24:28,823
and holes in the songs.
398
00:24:31,995 --> 00:24:33,850
- [Sarah] (laughs) So you're like,
399
00:24:33,850 --> 00:24:35,190
is Courtney Love in them? (laughs)
400
00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:36,607
- No.
- No.
401
00:24:38,954 --> 00:24:41,050
- [Sarah] Sorry.
402
00:24:41,050 --> 00:24:44,340
- Open spaces between
what's supposed to be
403
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,653
the music part.
404
00:24:48,540 --> 00:24:49,490
I don't know.
405
00:24:49,490 --> 00:24:50,536
I'm gone.
406
00:24:50,536 --> 00:24:53,119
(group laughs)
407
00:25:00,289 --> 00:25:03,479
♪ All ♪
408
00:25:03,479 --> 00:25:07,449
♪ Will ♪
409
00:25:07,449 --> 00:25:12,191
♪ Return ♪
410
00:25:12,191 --> 00:25:17,191
♪ Music is my savior ♪
411
00:25:19,969 --> 00:25:24,969
♪ I was maimed by rock and roll ♪
412
00:25:27,369 --> 00:25:32,369
♪ I got my name ♪
413
00:25:35,671 --> 00:25:39,031
♪ From rock and roll ♪
414
00:25:39,031 --> 00:25:41,781
(crowd cheering)
415
00:25:54,487 --> 00:25:57,778
(phone dialing)
416
00:25:57,778 --> 00:25:59,444
- [Voice Over Speaker] Yeah, who are you?
417
00:25:59,444 --> 00:26:00,777
- Uh, it's Jeff.
418
00:26:02,218 --> 00:26:04,635
(door beeps)
419
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:07,633
- Cool?
420
00:26:07,633 --> 00:26:09,443
- Yeah, seems fine.
- Great, that's exactly
421
00:26:09,443 --> 00:26:11,380
the mix you'll have out there.
422
00:26:11,380 --> 00:26:14,047
(cello playing)
423
00:26:15,748 --> 00:26:20,348
♪ How can I convince you,
it's me I don't like ♪
424
00:26:20,348 --> 00:26:25,226
♪ And not be so indifferent
to the look in your eyes ♪
425
00:26:25,226 --> 00:26:27,849
♪ When I've always been distant ♪
426
00:26:27,849 --> 00:26:32,849
♪ And I've always told lies for love ♪
427
00:26:35,217 --> 00:26:40,217
♪ I know this isn't what
you were wanting me to say ♪
428
00:26:40,329 --> 00:26:45,126
♪ How can I be closer
and get further away ♪
429
00:26:45,126 --> 00:26:50,126
♪ From the truth that proves
it's beautiful to lie ♪
430
00:26:55,319 --> 00:26:58,408
♪ I've ♪
431
00:26:58,408 --> 00:27:03,408
♪ Got reservations ♪
432
00:27:04,197 --> 00:27:07,306
♪ About so many things ♪
433
00:27:07,306 --> 00:27:10,306
♪ But not about you ♪
434
00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:13,191
- And then maybe...
435
00:27:13,191 --> 00:27:15,858
(cello playing)
436
00:27:26,090 --> 00:27:27,752
It's not bad, I don't know, you know.
437
00:27:27,752 --> 00:27:28,585
It's...
438
00:27:28,585 --> 00:27:30,055
- Sure.
439
00:27:30,055 --> 00:27:30,916
- [Jay] Yeah.
440
00:27:30,916 --> 00:27:31,847
- [Producer] It's only a single.
441
00:27:31,847 --> 00:27:33,236
- It's the first time where he does
442
00:27:33,236 --> 00:27:36,415
♪ I've gotta reservation ♪
443
00:27:36,415 --> 00:27:37,248
- So yeah.
444
00:27:37,248 --> 00:27:39,256
Yeah, the first one is the double one.
445
00:27:39,256 --> 00:27:41,839
(somber music)
446
00:27:48,460 --> 00:27:50,533
- Okay. (laughs)
447
00:27:57,205 --> 00:27:59,020
- [Jay] Doug, I think he's
gonna stay away from--
448
00:27:59,020 --> 00:27:59,853
- What's that?
449
00:28:01,590 --> 00:28:02,673
Uh, I guess,
450
00:28:03,630 --> 00:28:05,413
next four or five days.
451
00:28:07,930 --> 00:28:09,003
Yeah, we're mixing.
452
00:28:10,860 --> 00:28:12,063
I'm not at the loft.
453
00:28:13,270 --> 00:28:14,323
I'm at the studio.
454
00:28:17,140 --> 00:28:17,973
Tony's here.
455
00:28:21,097 --> 00:28:21,930
All right.
456
00:28:27,087 --> 00:28:27,920
All right.
457
00:28:29,105 --> 00:28:31,439
Well, I'll call you later.
458
00:28:37,310 --> 00:28:38,293
Pajama day?
459
00:28:44,740 --> 00:28:45,990
- This is like,
460
00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:48,110
this is the record that needs to
461
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,830
take the band to another level.
462
00:28:50,830 --> 00:28:52,640
If that didn't happen,
463
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,890
it would be a tragic, sort
of missed opportunity,
464
00:28:56,890 --> 00:28:59,023
and that it would damage the band.
465
00:29:01,890 --> 00:29:04,680
- I think every record I've ever made,
466
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,296
somebody has said, this is the big one.
467
00:29:07,296 --> 00:29:09,410
(laughs) You guys are gonna be huge,
468
00:29:09,410 --> 00:29:13,750
and when I saw the
reality of the situation,
469
00:29:13,750 --> 00:29:17,259
I felt a little dumb for believing it.
470
00:29:17,259 --> 00:29:19,594
♪ Make no difference ever known ♪
471
00:29:19,594 --> 00:29:22,470
♪ It made no difference ever known to me ♪
472
00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:25,441
- [Jay Voiceover] We do
have a new A&R guy, Neil.
473
00:29:25,441 --> 00:29:28,400
He's really younger and
cooler than our last guy,
474
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,233
so who knows.
475
00:29:29,233 --> 00:29:31,810
Maybe he'll come in and
say something really cool,
476
00:29:31,810 --> 00:29:32,643
you know?
477
00:29:32,643 --> 00:29:33,476
Maybe he'll be great.
478
00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:39,687
♪ I'm the man who loves you ♪
479
00:29:39,687 --> 00:29:40,670
- I think this sounds great.
480
00:29:40,670 --> 00:29:42,870
- Yeah, it's just a different song...
481
00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:44,270
Do you wanna hear the new one again?
482
00:29:44,270 --> 00:29:46,730
- Can you guys tell me what it is
483
00:29:46,730 --> 00:29:47,890
about the drums sounds on this
484
00:29:47,890 --> 00:29:49,490
that's not happening?
485
00:29:49,490 --> 00:29:52,280
You said you can't get a good snare sound?
486
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,698
- [Glenn] We can't brighten them up.
487
00:29:53,698 --> 00:29:56,950
- I think that's what's
kinda cool about it.
488
00:29:56,950 --> 00:29:58,329
They're murky sounding, you know?
489
00:29:58,329 --> 00:29:59,803
- This is all you can get out of them.
490
00:29:59,803 --> 00:30:00,840
- I think it's great.
491
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,050
- If the overall song feels good to you,
492
00:30:03,050 --> 00:30:05,140
you're gonna fall in love
with the little parts of it
493
00:30:05,140 --> 00:30:06,113
that are fucked up.
494
00:30:07,694 --> 00:30:08,710
To sum up what I'm thinking,
495
00:30:08,710 --> 00:30:10,370
you can't change one piece of the puzzle.
496
00:30:10,370 --> 00:30:11,203
- Right.
497
00:30:11,203 --> 00:30:13,880
- I don't think well-defined bright drums
498
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,970
with presence and definition would serve
499
00:30:16,970 --> 00:30:18,990
the feel of that song.
500
00:30:18,990 --> 00:30:21,600
- You know, it's a $150 an hour argument,
501
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,003
but that's okay. (laughs)
502
00:30:24,980 --> 00:30:28,300
- Whatever they lack, I'd
say are actually a virtue
503
00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:29,400
in this cut.
504
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,570
- If we go with this new one,
there is more redoing than
505
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,690
Jeff thought before he left, for instance.
506
00:30:37,690 --> 00:30:40,160
What is coming up right
now is exactly what came up
507
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,640
when I first started talking
to Jeff about it which was,
508
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,063
I think this does create a domino effect.
509
00:30:47,610 --> 00:30:49,900
- Did anyone have any
problem with this song
510
00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:51,300
until last night when you started to
511
00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:53,670
try to EQ the snare?
- Yes, absolutely. Always.
512
00:30:53,670 --> 00:30:54,873
Always since day one.
513
00:30:55,890 --> 00:30:59,200
- Maybe we should mix
stuff that we know is done.
514
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,180
- There is no fucking pressure, man.
515
00:31:01,180 --> 00:31:02,990
This is day two in the studio
516
00:31:02,990 --> 00:31:03,823
for this record.
- Three.
517
00:31:03,823 --> 00:31:04,656
- Three, okay.
518
00:31:05,950 --> 00:31:07,943
- (laughs) That's still all the pressure.
519
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,967
I just know if we mix both
of these, we're gonna go,
520
00:31:10,967 --> 00:31:12,250
"Neither one's it."
521
00:31:12,250 --> 00:31:13,230
I just know it.
522
00:31:13,230 --> 00:31:14,950
- I think it'd be great if we just mixed
523
00:31:14,950 --> 00:31:17,200
and leave all tracking for the loft.
524
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,410
Honestly.
525
00:31:18,410 --> 00:31:20,120
- [Producer] Jeff's on his way down.
526
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,243
- Oh, alert the media.
527
00:31:22,243 --> 00:31:23,963
(laughs) Has he been,
528
00:31:23,963 --> 00:31:25,755
was he alerted to the situation?
529
00:31:25,755 --> 00:31:27,750
- [Producer] No, he just
called for a status report.
530
00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:29,853
- Oh, and you said status not good?
531
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:33,760
- We had a little bit of a work stoppage.
532
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,740
A grinding, you know, grinding to a halt.
533
00:31:36,740 --> 00:31:37,573
Like, well hold on,
534
00:31:37,573 --> 00:31:38,669
"What exactly is the...
535
00:31:38,669 --> 00:31:39,850
"how are we supposed to do this?"
536
00:31:39,850 --> 00:31:44,190
We're like, really readjusting
to how things are gonna work
537
00:31:44,190 --> 00:31:45,930
when we're in a different environment
538
00:31:45,930 --> 00:31:48,570
from our luxurious
539
00:31:48,570 --> 00:31:50,280
little dream world.
540
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,650
We're spending $1,000 a day to be here.
541
00:31:53,650 --> 00:31:56,210
Anytime we get stumped from here on out,
542
00:31:56,210 --> 00:31:58,420
we should just move on.
543
00:31:58,420 --> 00:31:59,690
- That's what we're deciding.
- Yeah.
544
00:31:59,690 --> 00:32:03,160
- Yeah, I think we've
all kind of decided that.
545
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,420
I think, like, I don't
wanna mix them both.
546
00:32:05,420 --> 00:32:07,750
At the same time, I don't
wanna get too hung up on this.
547
00:32:07,750 --> 00:32:09,113
It's an important decision.
548
00:32:10,420 --> 00:32:13,053
Oops, we happened to make
it the day we were here.
549
00:32:13,890 --> 00:32:16,800
Or not make it, you know,
whatever, let's move on.
550
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,633
You know?
551
00:32:17,633 --> 00:32:20,570
We spent a $1,000 in
stupider ways in this band.
552
00:32:20,570 --> 00:32:23,130
Like all that blow in
Amsterdam, that was...
553
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,640
- Oh, I must've missed out on that.
554
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,720
- There's more pressure on Jeff,
555
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,540
you know, externally and self-imposed.
556
00:32:33,540 --> 00:32:34,393
I think,
557
00:32:35,350 --> 00:32:38,610
he is aware that...
558
00:32:38,610 --> 00:32:40,250
the success...
559
00:32:40,250 --> 00:32:41,483
or failure,
560
00:32:42,650 --> 00:32:44,070
artistically, primarily,
561
00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:47,143
of the record, reflects mostly on him.
562
00:32:48,003 --> 00:32:50,586
(choral music)
563
00:32:55,947 --> 00:32:58,107
- Cut, then the real mix
of Heavy Metal Drummer.
564
00:32:58,107 --> 00:32:59,473
- All right, why couldn't we do that
565
00:32:59,473 --> 00:33:02,210
when we were mixing Heavy Metal Drummer?
566
00:33:02,210 --> 00:33:03,420
- Well, why not do it now?
567
00:33:03,420 --> 00:33:06,430
- Because we gotta go
offline, unmute everything
568
00:33:06,430 --> 00:33:08,980
to find out what track that thing's on.
569
00:33:08,980 --> 00:33:11,520
- Can't you just look and see
what track it comes up on?
570
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,250
- Yeah, but I don't know if
it's just one track or two--
571
00:33:15,250 --> 00:33:17,070
- Okay, I--
- Or what part of the kit
572
00:33:17,070 --> 00:33:18,090
it is.
573
00:33:18,090 --> 00:33:19,587
- How would we do it,
574
00:33:19,587 --> 00:33:21,535
how would we overlap it
mixing it separately?
575
00:33:21,535 --> 00:33:22,551
Just out of curiosity.
- Well, we just say
576
00:33:22,551 --> 00:33:24,960
the orchestra at the top
of Heavy Metal Drummer
577
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,680
is there.
- Mmhmm.
578
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,510
It wouldn't have to be a mastering thing?
579
00:33:28,510 --> 00:33:31,810
- Well, no 'cause the orchestra
is in Heavy Metal Drummer
580
00:33:31,810 --> 00:33:33,160
at the top of Heavy Metal Drummer.
581
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,780
- Okay.
- But, it seems,
582
00:33:34,780 --> 00:33:36,248
that seems backwards to me.
583
00:33:36,248 --> 00:33:39,120
Why not mix it up to the cut point
584
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,660
instead of trying to mix the other one
585
00:33:42,660 --> 00:33:44,513
from a new starting point?
586
00:33:46,110 --> 00:33:48,493
Why not mix it to the edit?
587
00:33:50,780 --> 00:33:51,613
You know what I mean?
588
00:33:51,613 --> 00:33:53,610
Instead of making a new edit
589
00:33:53,610 --> 00:33:55,920
for when we mix Heavy Metal Drummer?
590
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,830
- All right, to me
591
00:33:59,410 --> 00:34:01,500
it's the exact same thing.
592
00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:05,090
You mix one up to here or
you start the other mix here.
593
00:34:05,090 --> 00:34:07,279
Mix, start.
594
00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:09,500
(Jay humming)
595
00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:10,980
- Right there.
- All right.
596
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,110
I didn't know that you wanted it to sound
597
00:34:14,110 --> 00:34:15,710
exactly like it does here.
598
00:34:15,710 --> 00:34:18,070
I thought you wanted it to be the noise
599
00:34:18,070 --> 00:34:21,920
going over whatever was really
on Heavy Metal Drummer there.
600
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,753
See what I'm saying?
601
00:34:22,753 --> 00:34:25,580
- I don't want the orchestra
to go into Heavy Metal Drummer.
602
00:34:25,580 --> 00:34:26,870
It cuts right there.
603
00:34:26,870 --> 00:34:28,330
- Right, and I...
604
00:34:28,330 --> 00:34:30,380
Okay, okay, let me try to explain myself.
605
00:34:31,856 --> 00:34:32,840
I didn't know that you--
606
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,000
- This is taking a lot
longer than doing one mute.
607
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,340
- I know, but can I
explain myself, please?
608
00:34:37,340 --> 00:34:40,130
I didn't know until now
that you wanted it to start
609
00:34:40,130 --> 00:34:45,130
with a little kit, (Jay humming) big kit.
610
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,827
- Well, we can do it both ways, I mean--
611
00:34:46,827 --> 00:34:48,127
- No, I don't give a shit.
612
00:34:49,468 --> 00:34:51,280
You misunderstood what I was saying.
613
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,070
I assumed, apparently wrong,
614
00:34:54,070 --> 00:34:58,740
that it was noise until
Heavy Metal Drummer started,
615
00:34:58,740 --> 00:35:03,440
but now I understand that
it's orchestra until a subset
616
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,660
of Heavy Metal Drummer starts,
then two measures later,
617
00:35:07,660 --> 00:35:09,990
Heavy Metal Drummer really starts, right?
618
00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:12,050
- Sure.
- Okay, I didn't know that.
619
00:35:12,050 --> 00:35:13,027
I thought we were just saying,
620
00:35:13,027 --> 00:35:15,227
"Hey, that would be cool
if the noise went right up
621
00:35:15,227 --> 00:35:16,660
"to Heavy Metal Drummer."
622
00:35:16,660 --> 00:35:17,710
Does that make sense?
623
00:35:19,195 --> 00:35:20,560
- Whatever. Yeah, I don't know,
624
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,630
I don't know what the problem is.
625
00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:23,463
I don't.
626
00:35:23,463 --> 00:35:24,840
- I just want you to understand me,
627
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,830
like understand why I was thinking--
628
00:35:25,830 --> 00:35:26,760
- Why's it so important?
629
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,642
I don't have to understand
you all the time.
630
00:35:28,642 --> 00:35:29,892
(laughs) Like, it's okay.
631
00:35:31,180 --> 00:35:35,150
I don't... we found it, and we can do it.
632
00:35:35,150 --> 00:35:39,010
- Okay, it seems to me like
you're making a big deal
633
00:35:39,010 --> 00:35:41,652
out of not wanting to... (laughs)
634
00:35:41,652 --> 00:35:42,485
- Not wanting to?
635
00:35:42,485 --> 00:35:45,030
Okay, I've just been
sitting here trying to--
636
00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:46,210
- I'm just saying--
- I've been listening
637
00:35:46,210 --> 00:35:47,701
to you explain yourself.
638
00:35:47,701 --> 00:35:48,930
- [Jay] And do you understand it.
639
00:35:48,930 --> 00:35:51,010
- Sure, I understand it.
640
00:35:51,892 --> 00:35:53,072
- Okay, why couldn't you just say,
641
00:35:53,072 --> 00:35:54,580
"I understand what you're saying."
642
00:35:54,580 --> 00:35:55,770
- I did.
643
00:35:55,770 --> 00:35:57,392
- [Producer] So it's
gonna be a drum group.
644
00:35:57,392 --> 00:35:59,092
- Two seconds ago you said,
"Why is it so important
645
00:35:59,092 --> 00:36:00,590
"that I understand you?"
646
00:36:00,590 --> 00:36:02,840
- Well, because it doesn't seem like
647
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,704
you were gonna let me understand you.
648
00:36:05,704 --> 00:36:08,769
(group talking drowns out speaker)
649
00:36:08,769 --> 00:36:09,602
- Is it,
650
00:36:09,602 --> 00:36:14,602
I'm honestly, I thought that was an idea.
651
00:36:17,677 --> 00:36:22,266
Jeff, I don't wanna be
understood about the concept,
652
00:36:22,266 --> 00:36:25,847
I want you to understand what
the misunderstanding was.
653
00:36:25,847 --> 00:36:30,847
- I think I'm gonna throw up.
654
00:36:34,327 --> 00:36:37,244
(Jeff throwing up)
655
00:36:41,587 --> 00:36:42,816
♪ Done all I could do ♪
656
00:36:42,816 --> 00:36:44,925
♪ And I said all I can say ♪
657
00:36:44,925 --> 00:36:47,618
♪ I'll tell it to your
mother next pay day ♪
658
00:36:47,618 --> 00:36:51,948
♪ I'll tell it to your
mother next pay day ♪
659
00:36:51,948 --> 00:36:54,781
(toilet flushing)
660
00:37:00,407 --> 00:37:03,898
♪ I got no sugar baby now ♪
661
00:37:03,898 --> 00:37:05,357
♪ I've said all I can say ♪
662
00:37:05,357 --> 00:37:07,487
♪ And I've done all I can do ♪
663
00:37:07,487 --> 00:37:10,878
♪ I can't along with you ♪
664
00:37:10,878 --> 00:37:12,090
- [Cameraman] Is it the medication?
665
00:37:12,090 --> 00:37:13,823
- No, I just throw up all the time
666
00:37:13,823 --> 00:37:16,150
when I have migraines.
667
00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:17,700
When I was a kid, I threw up...
668
00:37:19,210 --> 00:37:22,460
I used to throw up like
30 times in a night
669
00:37:22,460 --> 00:37:25,313
and get put in the
hospital for dehydration.
670
00:37:30,037 --> 00:37:31,370
Ah, that feels better.
671
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:35,661
You're right, it's six of
one half dozen of another.
672
00:37:35,661 --> 00:37:37,480
I'm sorry.
- Damn, I guess
673
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,030
I wasn't explaining myself.
674
00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:39,863
See we have to,
675
00:37:39,863 --> 00:37:43,800
now we have to do all our
outro mutes on everything else.
676
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,680
- Why? Because you cut it?
- Because we...
677
00:37:46,690 --> 00:37:49,110
Well, 'cause we have a
bunch of other things open
678
00:37:49,979 --> 00:37:50,812
still.
- But won't it,
679
00:37:50,812 --> 00:37:51,645
it just cuts right there?
680
00:37:51,645 --> 00:37:53,110
- No, but up to there.
681
00:37:53,110 --> 00:37:53,943
You know what I mean?
- Oh, right.
682
00:37:53,943 --> 00:37:54,776
- Up to there.
683
00:37:54,776 --> 00:37:57,096
- Well, we would've had to do that anyway.
684
00:37:57,096 --> 00:37:58,680
- Yeah, some of that we would've, yeah.
685
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,030
But I was, yeah.
686
00:38:00,030 --> 00:38:02,160
I was just thinking we'd just start
687
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,638
Heavy Metal Drummer that way,
688
00:38:03,638 --> 00:38:06,471
was what I was thinking, you know?
689
00:38:15,257 --> 00:38:17,370
I'm cool, I'm totally cool, all right?
690
00:38:17,370 --> 00:38:18,203
It's over.
691
00:38:18,203 --> 00:38:20,890
- Right now, um,
692
00:38:20,890 --> 00:38:24,760
Reprise Records is in a
pretty serious state of flux
693
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,800
which I'm a bit nervous about.
694
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:27,770
You know? I mean, I'm not worried
695
00:38:27,770 --> 00:38:29,313
about the record not coming out.
696
00:38:29,313 --> 00:38:30,340
- No, no, no.
The record will come out,
697
00:38:30,340 --> 00:38:33,290
but you don't know whether
we're gonna be getting
698
00:38:33,290 --> 00:38:36,820
the same sort of enthusiasm out of whoever
699
00:38:36,820 --> 00:38:38,357
the replacement person is.
700
00:38:38,357 --> 00:38:40,780
- Right.
- It's just mystery.
701
00:38:40,780 --> 00:38:41,697
- If we do it,
702
00:38:41,697 --> 00:38:42,747
let's do...
- What about Must be High
703
00:38:42,747 --> 00:38:44,062
or Casino Queen?
704
00:38:44,062 --> 00:38:45,480
- Nah.
705
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,210
- I'm just thinking in
terms of rockers, man.
706
00:38:47,210 --> 00:38:48,196
- Yeah.
707
00:38:48,196 --> 00:38:49,810
- (laughs) If we got easy rockers,
708
00:38:49,810 --> 00:38:50,910
we should probably...
709
00:38:51,792 --> 00:38:53,216
- I don't wanna do that anymore.
710
00:38:53,216 --> 00:38:54,741
- Should I write any of those three?
711
00:38:54,741 --> 00:38:56,030
- [Jay] You don't wanna rock?
712
00:38:56,030 --> 00:38:57,000
- What did you say?
713
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,833
- No, I don't wanna just fall back
714
00:38:57,833 --> 00:38:59,280
on a bunch of easy rockers.
715
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,113
- No, no.
716
00:39:00,113 --> 00:39:01,810
I'm just thinking with
four days to practice
717
00:39:01,810 --> 00:39:02,857
and four shows.
718
00:39:02,857 --> 00:39:04,439
- [Glenn] One, two,
719
00:39:04,439 --> 00:39:06,228
one, two, three, four.
720
00:39:06,228 --> 00:39:09,228
(upbeat rock music)
721
00:39:14,511 --> 00:39:19,511
♪ Why, I wonder, is my
heart full of holes ♪
722
00:39:21,457 --> 00:39:26,457
♪ And the feeling goes but
my hair keeps growing ♪
723
00:39:28,995 --> 00:39:33,785
♪ Will I set, the sun ♪
724
00:39:33,785 --> 00:39:37,627
♪ On a big-wheeled wagon ♪
725
00:39:37,627 --> 00:39:39,507
♪ I'm bragging ♪
726
00:39:39,507 --> 00:39:44,507
♪ I'm always in love ♪
727
00:39:48,666 --> 00:39:53,666
♪ When I let go of your
throat, sweet throttle ♪
728
00:39:56,626 --> 00:40:01,626
♪ When I clean the lash
of your black belt model ♪
729
00:40:03,484 --> 00:40:08,445
♪ Will I catch the moon ♪
730
00:40:08,445 --> 00:40:12,486
♪ Like a bird in a cage ♪
731
00:40:12,486 --> 00:40:14,475
♪ It's for you I swoon ♪
732
00:40:14,475 --> 00:40:19,475
♪ I'm always in love ♪
733
00:40:23,945 --> 00:40:27,804
♪ I don't get the connection ♪
734
00:40:27,804 --> 00:40:31,636
♪ This is only a test ♪
735
00:40:31,636 --> 00:40:35,534
♪ Hope I do my best ♪
736
00:40:35,534 --> 00:40:39,034
♪ You know I won't forget ♪
737
00:40:54,526 --> 00:40:59,526
♪ Fold the cold in my jet-lag palm ♪
738
00:41:01,886 --> 00:41:06,886
♪ When I soak so long I forget my mother ♪
739
00:41:09,406 --> 00:41:14,406
♪ Will I set, the sun ♪
740
00:41:14,414 --> 00:41:18,143
♪ On a big-wheeled wagon ♪
741
00:41:18,143 --> 00:41:20,094
♪ I'm bragging ♪
742
00:41:20,094 --> 00:41:25,094
♪ I'm always in love ♪
743
00:41:25,903 --> 00:41:27,814
♪ Drag I snag ♪
744
00:41:27,814 --> 00:41:32,814
♪ I'm always in love ♪
745
00:41:33,734 --> 00:41:35,846
♪ I'm worried ♪
746
00:41:35,846 --> 00:41:38,929
♪ I'm always in love ♪
747
00:41:45,966 --> 00:41:49,865
♪ I'm worried, I'm worried ♪
748
00:41:49,865 --> 00:41:53,675
♪ I'm worried I'm always in love ♪
749
00:41:53,675 --> 00:41:57,634
♪ I'm worried, I'm worried ♪
750
00:41:57,634 --> 00:42:01,534
♪ I'm worried I'm always in love ♪
751
00:42:01,534 --> 00:42:05,326
♪ I'm worried, I'm worried ♪
752
00:42:05,326 --> 00:42:09,225
♪ I'm worried I'm always in love ♪
753
00:42:09,225 --> 00:42:13,054
♪ I'm worried, I'm worried ♪
754
00:42:13,054 --> 00:42:18,054
♪ I'm worried that I'm always in love ♪
755
00:42:18,155 --> 00:42:22,025
♪ Woo-Hoo, Woo-Hoo ♪
756
00:42:22,025 --> 00:42:25,774
♪ Woo-Hoo, Woo-Hoo ♪
757
00:42:25,774 --> 00:42:29,651
♪ Woo-Hoo, Woo-Hoo ♪
758
00:42:29,651 --> 00:42:32,568
♪ Woo-Hoo, Woo-Hoo ♪
759
00:42:37,143 --> 00:42:38,520
- I'd go either way.
760
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,470
- When this record
ended up being finished,
761
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:42,990
it actually felt fresher to me
762
00:42:42,990 --> 00:42:47,340
than it had felt for
months after we did a bulk
763
00:42:47,340 --> 00:42:51,400
of the recording, you know, over a year
764
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,660
or so, and somewhere towards
the end of that year,
765
00:42:54,660 --> 00:42:58,570
it got to be kind of
nit-picking and going back
766
00:42:58,570 --> 00:43:01,340
and re-tracking songs and knowing exactly
767
00:43:01,340 --> 00:43:02,370
what we were going for,
768
00:43:02,370 --> 00:43:04,883
less exploratory, and,
769
00:43:06,230 --> 00:43:08,520
and that was starting to get kinda rough
770
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:10,850
by the time we went to CRC to mix.
771
00:43:10,850 --> 00:43:15,850
- We got bogged down in certain
things like redoing drums.
772
00:43:16,266 --> 00:43:17,150
- Right.
- You know, certain calls
773
00:43:17,150 --> 00:43:19,550
that were good that helped us later on,
774
00:43:19,550 --> 00:43:23,480
but for whatever reason,
it just bogged down.
775
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,490
- Doing the record, the
final mixes, at Soma
776
00:43:27,490 --> 00:43:31,720
and hearing them through
Jim O'Rourke's ears,
777
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:35,810
actually hearing it with
someone who was coming at it
778
00:43:35,810 --> 00:43:38,400
with some fresh perspective,
779
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:43,080
and being able to collaborate
on the final mixes,
780
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,560
kinda like, well, we're
kinda throwing everything
781
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:46,393
out the window,
782
00:43:46,393 --> 00:43:47,680
but we're also kinda getting back
783
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,520
to what the original thing was.
784
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,610
- When it went to Jim with
completely fresh ears,
785
00:43:52,610 --> 00:43:54,260
he heard them a little differently,
786
00:43:54,260 --> 00:43:57,480
and right away, as soon as
we heard how he was mixing
787
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,150
I'm Trying to Break Your Heart,
the first thing he mixed,
788
00:43:59,150 --> 00:43:59,983
then it was like,
789
00:43:59,983 --> 00:44:02,050
"Oh, this really works."
- That's why bands
790
00:44:02,050 --> 00:44:03,080
don't mix records.
791
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,840
- I mean, definitely it was like a,
792
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,260
it was a final stage of collaboration.
793
00:44:08,260 --> 00:44:09,840
Like mixing the record,
794
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,000
that's what I always felt
like mixing should be,
795
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,730
like it should be the
last stage of inspiration.
796
00:44:15,730 --> 00:44:17,650
I think we've tried to make it powerful
797
00:44:17,650 --> 00:44:19,000
like with two guitars.
798
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,210
- Can you beef up your tone
799
00:44:20,210 --> 00:44:21,570
a little then or something?
- Yeah, yeah.
800
00:44:21,570 --> 00:44:24,329
- Okay, okay.
- It's just so steady now.
801
00:44:24,329 --> 00:44:26,870
- I thought it was feeling great, man.
802
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:28,310
God, I thought it felt great.
803
00:44:28,310 --> 00:44:30,610
- No, I mean we can try
the two guitars again
804
00:44:30,610 --> 00:44:31,870
if it feels too weak,
805
00:44:31,870 --> 00:44:33,510
I just think that we tried the two...
806
00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:37,753
I think the two guitar things
might be obsolete, you know?
807
00:44:39,820 --> 00:44:40,653
- Uh...
808
00:44:40,653 --> 00:44:43,667
I'm not sure what that
means, but I'll try. (laughs)
809
00:44:43,667 --> 00:44:44,587
No, I'm just, that felt
810
00:44:44,587 --> 00:44:45,754
great to me, that's all.
- No, I mean...
811
00:44:45,754 --> 00:44:46,587
what's that?
812
00:44:46,587 --> 00:44:47,605
- That felt great to me, that's all.
813
00:44:47,605 --> 00:44:49,222
- No, I--
- I just love fucking rocking,
814
00:44:49,222 --> 00:44:50,972
you know? That's all.
815
00:44:52,792 --> 00:44:55,375
(quiet rock music)
816
00:45:02,893 --> 00:45:07,463
♪ Jesus, don't cry ♪
817
00:45:07,463 --> 00:45:11,722
♪ You can rely on me honey ♪
818
00:45:11,722 --> 00:45:16,722
♪ You can combine anything you want ♪
819
00:45:18,213 --> 00:45:22,855
♪ I'll be around ♪
820
00:45:22,855 --> 00:45:27,335
♪ You were right about the stars ♪
821
00:45:27,335 --> 00:45:32,335
♪ Each one is a setting sun ♪
822
00:45:35,335 --> 00:45:38,063
♪ Tall buildings shake ♪
823
00:45:38,063 --> 00:45:41,932
♪ Voices escape singing sad, sad songs ♪
824
00:45:41,932 --> 00:45:45,261
♪ Tuned to chords strung
down your cheeks ♪
825
00:45:45,261 --> 00:45:48,100
- We, actually, officially
delivered the record
826
00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:50,100
or sent them the final
mixes of the record.
827
00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:53,680
- I must've had 50, 60
definite possibilities
828
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,170
for magazine features, let
alone television appearances
829
00:45:57,170 --> 00:45:58,230
which were starting to...
830
00:45:58,230 --> 00:46:00,617
Offers were coming in, and I just thought,
831
00:46:00,617 --> 00:46:02,900
"Boy, this is gonna be
so great," you know?
832
00:46:02,900 --> 00:46:04,700
It's all set.
833
00:46:04,700 --> 00:46:06,970
I think, the press has always loved Wilco,
834
00:46:06,970 --> 00:46:08,970
but now we're gonna take
it even to another level.
835
00:46:08,970 --> 00:46:10,320
- When we delivered the record, though,
836
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,860
we didn't hear from them for
like two weeks, you know?
837
00:46:12,860 --> 00:46:17,000
So we thought that was
probably not a good thing.
838
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,023
- I knew that I was sitting on something
839
00:46:19,023 --> 00:46:21,170
that people were gonna
beat down the door to get.
840
00:46:21,170 --> 00:46:24,510
And then the advances didn't get made.
841
00:46:24,510 --> 00:46:26,497
So June is rolling along, and I'm going,
842
00:46:26,497 --> 00:46:30,497
"Well, we're losing time, we're
losing people to deadlines.
843
00:46:30,497 --> 00:46:32,297
"They're not gonna be
able to cover this record
844
00:46:32,297 --> 00:46:33,380
"if we don't hurry up,"
845
00:46:33,380 --> 00:46:35,800
and then about the third week in June,
846
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,430
I'd heard there's a problem.
847
00:46:38,430 --> 00:46:41,350
- Next thing I heard was
848
00:46:41,350 --> 00:46:42,183
that...
849
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,330
They asked us to change the record.
850
00:46:45,330 --> 00:46:49,230
I don't know what they
wanted us to change, and
851
00:46:50,070 --> 00:46:54,290
Tony told me that, that
was their response,
852
00:46:54,290 --> 00:46:58,150
and I told Tony that we weren't interested
853
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:59,070
in changing the record.
854
00:46:59,070 --> 00:47:01,600
- Their A&R representative
was Mio Vukovic,
855
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,000
and what I'd heard,
856
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,620
like I said I'd never talked to Wilco
857
00:47:04,620 --> 00:47:05,840
about the way this chain happened,
858
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,050
but what I heard from my side was that
859
00:47:08,050 --> 00:47:11,600
Mio had some ideas about
changes to the record,
860
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,500
or additional recording, or
mixing, or things like that,
861
00:47:15,500 --> 00:47:17,557
and the band had felt like,
862
00:47:17,557 --> 00:47:19,580
"That's the record. We're finished."
863
00:47:19,580 --> 00:47:23,800
You know, we're not really
in the mind to make changes,
864
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,340
and it's sort of a, "Take it or leave it,"
865
00:47:26,340 --> 00:47:29,670
and I think it went up
to Mio's boss David Kahn,
866
00:47:29,670 --> 00:47:32,000
the head of A&R for Warners and Reprise,
867
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,520
felt like Mio was right and
that changes did need to be made
868
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,940
and if the band wasn't
interested in making them,
869
00:47:38,940 --> 00:47:40,890
then they should probably
be on another label.
870
00:47:40,890 --> 00:47:44,260
- Next thing I heard was
that they wanted to know
871
00:47:44,260 --> 00:47:45,550
if we wanted to leave.
872
00:47:45,550 --> 00:47:46,810
- Well I just think that we've been jerked
873
00:47:46,810 --> 00:47:48,030
around so many times,
874
00:47:48,030 --> 00:47:50,683
and that this is the
ultimate jerking around.
875
00:47:51,950 --> 00:47:52,783
You know, this like,
876
00:47:52,783 --> 00:47:55,550
"We're gonna drop you,"
shit or whatever it is.
877
00:47:55,550 --> 00:47:57,160
Or, "You can get out of the deal."
878
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:58,520
Either way you wanna look at it,
879
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:02,463
it's still majorly
being jerked around and,
880
00:48:03,710 --> 00:48:08,500
you know, why should I think
that things are gonna change?
881
00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:10,240
- Actually when Tony first told me
882
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:11,960
that this was a possibility,
883
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,530
I have to be completely honest,
884
00:48:13,530 --> 00:48:15,240
it hurt my feelings.
885
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:17,210
It's like a feeling of rejection.
886
00:48:17,210 --> 00:48:20,237
- It's gotta be more than
some sort of promise of,
887
00:48:20,237 --> 00:48:22,637
"We love you, and we're
gonna take care of you."
888
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:25,840
Do you know what I mean?
889
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,440
Because we've heard all that before,
890
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:32,120
and I just think that the
wound from this episode
891
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,330
of making this record,
delivering the record,
892
00:48:35,330 --> 00:48:38,610
and getting basically nothing
but headaches in return
893
00:48:38,610 --> 00:48:41,240
is pretty deep and gonna
be pretty tough to heal.
894
00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:42,940
And you're not just dealing,
895
00:48:42,940 --> 00:48:46,580
I'm not the only person
you gotta make feel better.
896
00:48:46,580 --> 00:48:49,960
- We never got too specific
897
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,170
about what exactly
898
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,030
made them hate it.
899
00:48:55,030 --> 00:48:57,720
- Okay, but I just want you
to understand one thing.
900
00:48:57,720 --> 00:48:58,970
This is really important.
901
00:48:59,830 --> 00:49:04,000
Right now, I believe that
the best thing for the band,
902
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,760
for the band, the present
and future of the band,
903
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,537
is to be away from Reprise Records.
904
00:49:09,537 --> 00:49:13,560
- It was at a weird time
in Reprise's inner circle
905
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,953
because Howie Klein,
who had been president
906
00:49:15,953 --> 00:49:18,630
of Reprise for a long time,
907
00:49:18,630 --> 00:49:20,250
since Reprise was reactivated,
908
00:49:20,250 --> 00:49:23,410
he'd also been at Sire when
Uncle Tupelo was on Sire,
909
00:49:23,410 --> 00:49:26,660
and a big fan of the band
had just left the label.
910
00:49:26,660 --> 00:49:29,980
In fact I think the day that
the band turned in the record,
911
00:49:29,980 --> 00:49:33,009
the end of June, right around then,
912
00:49:33,009 --> 00:49:34,860
that was his last day.
913
00:49:34,860 --> 00:49:37,920
- A day or two after I
retired, I got a phone call
914
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,890
from one of Wilco's many,
many, many, many fans
915
00:49:41,906 --> 00:49:42,856
at Warner Brothers.
916
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,450
That was the first of
many phone calls I got
917
00:49:45,450 --> 00:49:47,820
telling me that Wilco was dropped.
918
00:49:47,820 --> 00:49:51,420
- I would guess that if I was an executive
919
00:49:51,420 --> 00:49:54,050
at a record company, high up executive.
920
00:49:54,050 --> 00:49:55,500
I don't mean the people
working in the trenches,
921
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:58,530
but I mean the guys with, you know,
922
00:49:58,530 --> 00:50:01,030
the gold plated cell phones, you know.
923
00:50:01,030 --> 00:50:03,860
If I was up there and I listened
to Yankee Hotel Foxtrot,
924
00:50:03,860 --> 00:50:05,450
I probably wouldn't get it.
925
00:50:05,450 --> 00:50:06,530
Why don't I get it?
926
00:50:06,530 --> 00:50:09,590
Because it doesn't tell
me exactly who it's for,
927
00:50:09,590 --> 00:50:12,240
it doesn't tell me
exactly what it's about,
928
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:14,830
and it doesn't tell me
exactly how much it will sell.
929
00:50:14,830 --> 00:50:16,920
- You know what, from what I gather,
930
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,860
I think that they didn't
think there was a single
931
00:50:18,860 --> 00:50:19,740
to work on.
932
00:50:19,740 --> 00:50:20,910
- There's pretty stuff in there,
933
00:50:20,910 --> 00:50:21,980
there's hard stuff in there,
934
00:50:21,980 --> 00:50:25,400
there's mystery in there,
there's really sweet
935
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:31,443
tunes, and there's, you know,
an abrasion in there as well.
936
00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:34,260
But it's all there, and
937
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:37,770
you really have to kinda sit with it.
938
00:50:37,770 --> 00:50:40,795
You have to allow yourself the time
939
00:50:40,795 --> 00:50:42,383
to get something out of it.
940
00:50:42,383 --> 00:50:46,890
- There's no chance that Wilco
would've ever been dropped
941
00:50:46,890 --> 00:50:49,200
when I was president of Reprise Records.
942
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,683
- We're now in a,
943
00:50:52,060 --> 00:50:53,890
a culture, not just a business,
944
00:50:53,890 --> 00:50:57,160
but a culture in which we
expect everything to happen
945
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:58,710
like that, you know?
946
00:50:58,710 --> 00:51:01,480
You have people outside
standing around talking
947
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,410
on cell phones, you know.
948
00:51:03,410 --> 00:51:05,097
The gist of the conversation is,
949
00:51:05,097 --> 00:51:06,717
"I'll be there in five minutes."
950
00:51:07,590 --> 00:51:09,240
Who gives a fuck? (laughs)
951
00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:10,610
Just be there in five minutes,
952
00:51:10,610 --> 00:51:13,003
don't talk about it, you know?
953
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,500
People are just so impatient, and
954
00:51:18,500 --> 00:51:20,478
as a result, you know,
955
00:51:20,478 --> 00:51:22,787
we're looking at things
956
00:51:22,787 --> 00:51:24,507
in ways like, "Well, how much time
957
00:51:24,507 --> 00:51:27,210
"do I have to devote to this?"
958
00:51:27,210 --> 00:51:30,130
And it's really sad because, you know,
959
00:51:30,130 --> 00:51:33,940
music, art, literature, poetry,
960
00:51:33,940 --> 00:51:38,070
even great technological inventions.
961
00:51:38,070 --> 00:51:42,820
They're not meant to be done
and done with that quickly.
962
00:51:42,820 --> 00:51:46,120
- It was like kinda just
a shock to be slapped
963
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,820
in the face with, um...
964
00:51:53,726 --> 00:51:56,840
This calculated world
965
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,470
of international, multi-national (laughs)
966
00:52:00,470 --> 00:52:02,536
whatever incorporation.
967
00:52:02,536 --> 00:52:05,687
♪ I'd like to thank you ♪
968
00:52:05,687 --> 00:52:07,715
♪ For nothing ♪
969
00:52:07,715 --> 00:52:11,563
♪ I'd like to thank you
for nothing at all ♪
970
00:52:11,563 --> 00:52:13,487
♪ I'd like to thank you ♪
971
00:52:13,487 --> 00:52:14,927
♪ For nothing ♪
972
00:52:14,927 --> 00:52:16,207
♪ Nothing ♪
973
00:52:16,207 --> 00:52:17,623
♪ Nothing ♪
974
00:52:17,623 --> 00:52:18,806
♪ Nothing ♪
975
00:52:18,806 --> 00:52:20,103
♪ Nothing ♪
976
00:52:20,103 --> 00:52:21,465
♪ Nothing ♪
977
00:52:21,465 --> 00:52:22,847
♪ Nothing ♪
978
00:52:22,847 --> 00:52:24,105
♪ Nothing ♪
979
00:52:24,105 --> 00:52:25,464
♪ Nothing ♪
980
00:52:25,464 --> 00:52:26,756
♪ Nothing ♪
981
00:52:26,756 --> 00:52:28,127
♪ Nothing ♪
982
00:52:28,127 --> 00:52:29,295
♪ Nothing ♪
983
00:52:29,295 --> 00:52:30,687
♪ Nothing ♪
984
00:52:30,687 --> 00:52:31,967
♪ Nothing ♪
985
00:52:31,967 --> 00:52:33,184
♪ Nothing ♪
986
00:52:33,184 --> 00:52:34,425
♪ Nothing ♪
987
00:52:34,425 --> 00:52:35,796
♪ Nothing ♪
988
00:52:35,796 --> 00:52:36,945
♪ Nothing ♪
989
00:52:36,945 --> 00:52:38,207
♪ Nothing ♪
990
00:52:38,207 --> 00:52:39,356
♪ Nothing ♪
991
00:52:39,356 --> 00:52:40,727
♪ Nothing ♪
992
00:52:40,727 --> 00:52:41,916
♪ Nothing ♪
993
00:52:41,916 --> 00:52:43,207
♪ Nothing ♪
994
00:52:43,207 --> 00:52:44,375
♪ Nothing ♪
995
00:52:44,375 --> 00:52:45,615
♪ Nothing ♪
996
00:52:45,615 --> 00:52:46,945
♪ Nothing ♪
997
00:52:46,945 --> 00:52:48,145
♪ Nothing ♪
998
00:52:48,145 --> 00:52:49,396
♪ Nothing ♪
999
00:52:49,396 --> 00:52:50,687
♪ Nothing ♪
1000
00:52:50,687 --> 00:52:51,927
♪ Nothing ♪
1001
00:52:51,927 --> 00:52:53,236
♪ Nothing ♪
1002
00:52:53,236 --> 00:52:54,505
♪ Nothing ♪
1003
00:52:54,505 --> 00:52:55,756
♪ Nothing ♪
1004
00:52:55,756 --> 00:52:57,015
♪ Nothing ♪
1005
00:52:57,015 --> 00:52:58,335
♪ Nothing ♪
1006
00:52:58,335 --> 00:53:00,585
♪ Nothing at all ♪
1007
00:53:02,494 --> 00:53:05,244
(crowd cheering)
1008
00:53:11,740 --> 00:53:15,680
- I see a band here that is
really ambitious artistically.
1009
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,920
It's not a VH1 Behind the Music story.
1010
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:23,920
It's not a drugs, groupies,
celebrity kind of story at all.
1011
00:53:23,935 --> 00:53:26,570
This band's story is the music.
1012
00:53:26,570 --> 00:53:28,950
Twenty years from now,
they're probably gonna get
1013
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:31,680
more their due than they are now.
1014
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,460
I don't think they're a band that fits in
1015
00:53:33,460 --> 00:53:35,960
with a lot of what music
gets played on the radio.
1016
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,760
The appreciation for its
records is gonna increase
1017
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:39,943
as time goes on.
1018
00:53:42,978 --> 00:53:45,728
(Glenn drumming)
1019
00:53:57,436 --> 00:53:58,692
- In the making of this record,
1020
00:53:58,692 --> 00:54:01,090
I felt like I got no support, zero.
1021
00:54:01,090 --> 00:54:02,730
Emotional,
1022
00:54:02,730 --> 00:54:04,470
financial,
1023
00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:05,378
whatever.
1024
00:54:05,378 --> 00:54:07,140
Then at some point in the process,
1025
00:54:07,140 --> 00:54:09,186
you start asking yourself,
1026
00:54:09,186 --> 00:54:11,000
"What are they doing?"
1027
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,840
We don't need the money.
1028
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,210
The band can go out and
play gigs and make the money
1029
00:54:15,210 --> 00:54:16,383
to pay for the record.
1030
00:54:19,270 --> 00:54:21,373
They're not getting the band on the radio.
1031
00:54:24,100 --> 00:54:25,750
You know, it's really,
1032
00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:27,563
at this point to me,
1033
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,100
their value's really,
really questionable to us.
1034
00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:33,936
(guitar playing)
1035
00:54:33,936 --> 00:54:36,686
(crowd cheering)
1036
00:54:51,055 --> 00:54:54,055
(upbeat rock music)
1037
00:55:07,774 --> 00:55:11,514
♪ I got you and it's all I need ♪
1038
00:55:11,514 --> 00:55:15,324
♪ I got you and it's all I need ♪
1039
00:55:15,324 --> 00:55:19,146
♪ I got you and it's all I need ♪
1040
00:55:19,146 --> 00:55:23,043
♪ I got you ♪
1041
00:55:23,043 --> 00:55:26,804
♪ I got you and I still believe ♪
1042
00:55:26,804 --> 00:55:30,204
♪ That you're all I will ever need ♪
1043
00:55:30,204 --> 00:55:34,015
♪ It's you ♪
1044
00:55:34,015 --> 00:55:37,764
♪ All ♪
1045
00:55:37,764 --> 00:55:42,255
♪ All the way back in the seventies ♪
1046
00:55:42,255 --> 00:55:46,015
♪ You were my little TV queen ♪
1047
00:55:46,015 --> 00:55:51,015
♪ Your Tarzan and your
friend, Janine. I got you ♪
1048
00:55:53,832 --> 00:55:57,662
♪ I got you and I still believe ♪
1049
00:55:57,662 --> 00:56:00,982
♪ That you're all I will ever need ♪
1050
00:56:00,982 --> 00:56:04,843
♪ It's you ♪
1051
00:56:04,843 --> 00:56:09,843
♪ All ♪
1052
00:56:20,247 --> 00:56:25,080
♪ (Jay guitar solo) ♪
1053
00:56:38,081 --> 00:56:41,761
♪ It's the end of the century ♪
1054
00:56:41,761 --> 00:56:46,761
♪ And I can't think of anything ♪
1055
00:56:49,388 --> 00:56:53,209
♪ Except you ♪
1056
00:56:53,209 --> 00:56:57,078
♪ Now it's the end of the century ♪
1057
00:56:57,078 --> 00:57:00,366
♪ And I can't think of anything ♪
1058
00:57:00,366 --> 00:57:04,155
♪ But you ♪
1059
00:57:04,155 --> 00:57:07,997
♪ All, ♪
1060
00:57:07,997 --> 00:57:11,735
♪ All, ♪
1061
00:57:11,735 --> 00:57:15,496
♪ I, ♪
1062
00:57:15,496 --> 00:57:17,413
♪ Need ♪
1063
00:57:31,723 --> 00:57:34,473
(crowd cheering)
1064
00:57:46,586 --> 00:57:50,237
♪ I got you ♪
1065
00:57:50,237 --> 00:57:53,146
♪ I got you, babe ♪
1066
00:57:53,146 --> 00:57:57,365
♪ Ooh ♪
1067
00:57:57,365 --> 00:57:59,615
♪ Ooh, ooh ♪
1068
00:58:00,466 --> 00:58:03,216
(Jeff screaming)
1069
00:58:23,477 --> 00:58:26,227
(crowd cheering)
1070
00:58:27,406 --> 00:58:28,239
Thanks a lot.
1071
00:58:28,239 --> 00:58:29,072
Goodnight.
1072
00:58:36,593 --> 00:58:39,343
(relaxing music)
1073
00:58:53,437 --> 00:58:58,345
(indistinct chatter)
1074
00:59:04,441 --> 00:59:06,873
- Good to see you brother.
1075
00:59:06,873 --> 00:59:07,706
Aww.
1076
00:59:09,113 --> 00:59:10,161
- Whoa, whoa, whoa.
1077
00:59:10,161 --> 00:59:11,578
Wait, wait, wait.
1078
00:59:19,251 --> 00:59:21,100
- They won't let you
just do it yourselves.
1079
00:59:22,983 --> 00:59:24,160
- Horde it, pig.
1080
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,060
- Stealing the band's pizza.
1081
00:59:26,060 --> 00:59:28,080
Aw, got busted.
1082
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:29,738
Sorry dude.
1083
00:59:29,738 --> 00:59:31,538
Is it cool, is it cool?
- Does anybody have a pen?
1084
00:59:31,538 --> 00:59:32,621
- [Jay] Yeah.
1085
00:59:37,367 --> 00:59:39,908
- [Female Fan] I don't have
nothing for you to sign.
1086
00:59:39,908 --> 00:59:42,656
- Someone sign your ass. (laughs)
1087
00:59:42,656 --> 00:59:43,489
I was kidding.
1088
00:59:43,489 --> 00:59:44,871
- Yeah, I can do that.
- You can sign my boobs.
1089
00:59:44,871 --> 00:59:46,427
Wanna sign my boobs or not?
1090
00:59:46,427 --> 00:59:47,949
- Um, actually, would I?
1091
00:59:47,949 --> 00:59:48,782
I don't know.
1092
00:59:49,730 --> 00:59:52,409
Someone in our band did that once.
1093
00:59:52,409 --> 00:59:54,099
- You can sign my ass 'cause I have
1094
00:59:54,099 --> 00:59:56,823
nothing else to sign.
- Really?
1095
00:59:56,823 --> 00:59:59,423
- If you sign her ass,
you have to sign my ass.
1096
00:59:59,423 --> 01:00:00,272
- Oh, my god.
- And if you sign her ass,
1097
01:00:00,272 --> 01:00:01,513
you have to sign my ass.
1098
01:00:01,513 --> 01:00:03,890
- You can sign my chest.
- No, you sign her ass...
1099
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:05,810
- That's what Jimmy,
1100
01:00:05,810 --> 01:00:07,070
oh we saw Jimmy in the--
- Are we going to
1101
01:00:07,070 --> 01:00:08,320
lighting stage?
1102
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:09,153
Sound check?
1103
01:00:10,250 --> 01:00:12,890
- The straight jackets on the
elevator last night. (laughs)
1104
01:00:12,890 --> 01:00:13,730
Remember the guy who did--
1105
01:00:13,730 --> 01:00:16,300
- Oh, oh my God.
- Sat in from Jimmy Lester?
1106
01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:17,133
What?
1107
01:00:17,133 --> 01:00:18,677
- I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
- Go ahead.
1108
01:00:19,580 --> 01:00:24,580
- I met Bob from Sesame
Street yesterday, last night.
1109
01:00:24,798 --> 01:00:25,631
Bob?
- Oh.
1110
01:00:25,631 --> 01:00:26,464
- Do you know who Bob,
1111
01:00:26,464 --> 01:00:27,390
does anybody know who Bob is?
1112
01:00:27,390 --> 01:00:28,392
- Yeah.
- I don't remember that.
1113
01:00:28,392 --> 01:00:29,225
- How'd you meet him?
1114
01:00:29,225 --> 01:00:30,470
- He was in our hotel.
1115
01:00:30,470 --> 01:00:33,028
He's doing a kid's show
right now as we speak.
1116
01:00:33,028 --> 01:00:34,299
- Oh, man.
- He's like,
1117
01:00:34,299 --> 01:00:38,081
"Yeah, I got, Big Bird's
coming in tomorrow."
1118
01:00:38,081 --> 01:00:39,800
(John laughing)
1119
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,603
- There's Jay right now as we speak.
1120
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,399
- So also, although
it's already been going,
1121
01:00:46,399 --> 01:00:49,690
but JP asked if we could
steer clear of the stage
1122
01:00:49,690 --> 01:00:51,237
for a little while.
1123
01:00:51,237 --> 01:00:52,266
(group laughs)
1124
01:00:52,266 --> 01:00:53,650
- Until sound check is over?
1125
01:00:53,650 --> 01:00:56,263
- Until Jay gets done.
1126
01:00:57,730 --> 01:00:59,945
- Has Jay been here since
like six in the morning?
1127
01:00:59,945 --> 01:01:03,372
- [Sound Checker] Two, hey, hey.
1128
01:01:03,372 --> 01:01:04,622
Hey, excuse me.
1129
01:01:06,017 --> 01:01:10,170
- Gentlemen, we have about
35 minutes to do all of this.
1130
01:01:10,170 --> 01:01:11,003
Target.
1131
01:01:13,430 --> 01:01:16,084
Uh, yeah, we're going Glenn,
1132
01:01:16,084 --> 01:01:19,800
we're gonna go Jay Bennett,
entire keyboard world,
1133
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,020
and Jay Bennett electric
rig, keep him there.
1134
01:01:23,020 --> 01:01:26,130
After Jay, we'll do Johnny
real quick, Mr. Tweedy,
1135
01:01:26,130 --> 01:01:28,220
let Leroy get his world sussed out.
1136
01:01:28,220 --> 01:01:30,094
We're only gonna have time
to do about two songs.
1137
01:01:30,094 --> 01:01:31,074
- Okay.
1138
01:01:31,074 --> 01:01:34,034
(drums playing)
1139
01:01:34,034 --> 01:01:37,284
(Jay playing keyboard)
1140
01:01:40,533 --> 01:01:42,450
- Check, hey, hey, hey.
1141
01:01:43,510 --> 01:01:45,306
- Yeah, the delay's not working.
1142
01:01:45,306 --> 01:01:49,154
♪ You have to learn how to die ♪
1143
01:01:49,154 --> 01:01:54,154
♪ If you want to want to be alive ♪
1144
01:01:58,454 --> 01:02:02,346
♪ You have to die ♪
1145
01:02:02,346 --> 01:02:07,286
♪ You have to die ♪
1146
01:02:07,286 --> 01:02:11,067
♪ You have to learn how to die ♪
1147
01:02:11,067 --> 01:02:15,234
♪ If you want to want to be alive ♪
1148
01:02:38,228 --> 01:02:40,978
(crowd clapping)
1149
01:02:43,096 --> 01:02:45,929
(energetic music)
1150
01:02:50,004 --> 01:02:51,806
♪ I know ♪
1151
01:02:51,806 --> 01:02:52,926
♪ We don't talk much ♪
1152
01:02:52,926 --> 01:02:56,927
♪ But you're such a good talker, oh whoa ♪
1153
01:02:56,927 --> 01:02:58,775
♪ I know ♪
1154
01:02:58,775 --> 01:03:00,014
♪ You should take a walk ♪
1155
01:03:00,014 --> 01:03:03,475
♪ But you're such a fast walker, oh whoa ♪
1156
01:03:03,475 --> 01:03:07,534
♪ Well all right ♪
1157
01:03:07,534 --> 01:03:12,534
♪ I know where I'll be
tonight, all right ♪
1158
01:03:14,407 --> 01:03:17,635
♪ Out of mind, out of sight ♪
1159
01:03:17,635 --> 01:03:19,815
- No, Tom's introducing me.
1160
01:03:19,815 --> 01:03:20,970
- Oh, okay.
- And then I'll go to you.
1161
01:03:20,970 --> 01:03:22,520
- Okay.
- Okay.
1162
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,110
When is the new album actually available
1163
01:03:24,110 --> 01:03:25,560
for people to go out and buy?
1164
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:26,704
- That's a good question.
1165
01:03:26,704 --> 01:03:28,895
♪ I know you probably hate me ♪
1166
01:03:28,895 --> 01:03:31,343
♪ That's okay with me ♪
1167
01:03:31,343 --> 01:03:35,573
♪ All right ♪
1168
01:03:35,573 --> 01:03:36,714
♪ I know where I'll be ♪
1169
01:03:36,714 --> 01:03:38,554
- Good afternoon, good evening
1170
01:03:38,554 --> 01:03:42,183
and happy Independence Day, everyone.
1171
01:03:42,183 --> 01:03:46,092
Please welcome one of
America's most exciting
1172
01:03:46,092 --> 01:03:47,842
and innovative bands,
1173
01:03:48,722 --> 01:03:53,722
Wilco!
1174
01:03:54,765 --> 01:03:59,765
♪ You don't see me now ♪
1175
01:04:01,802 --> 01:04:06,802
♪ You don't want to any, ♪
1176
01:04:08,542 --> 01:04:13,542
♪ How, how, how ♪
1177
01:04:15,452 --> 01:04:18,621
♪ Look out, here I come again ♪
1178
01:04:18,621 --> 01:04:22,060
♪ And I'm bringing my friends ♪
1179
01:04:22,060 --> 01:04:24,421
♪ I said look out ♪
1180
01:04:24,421 --> 01:04:26,310
♪ Here I come again ♪
1181
01:04:26,310 --> 01:04:27,901
♪ I'm bringing my friends ♪
1182
01:04:27,901 --> 01:04:32,901
♪ Okay I said alright ♪
1183
01:04:32,981 --> 01:04:37,981
♪ I know where I'll be
tonight, all right ♪
1184
01:04:39,848 --> 01:04:43,261
♪ Out of mind, out of sight ♪
1185
01:04:43,261 --> 01:04:46,872
♪ Out of mind, out of sight ♪
1186
01:04:46,872 --> 01:04:50,539
♪ Out of mind, out of sight ♪
1187
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,027
Show some gratitude!
1188
01:05:08,262 --> 01:05:11,012
(crowd cheering)
1189
01:05:18,620 --> 01:05:20,790
- [Interviewer] Well,
let's talk about Jay.
1190
01:05:20,790 --> 01:05:22,777
- [Jeff] All right, I probably
won't have much to say.
1191
01:05:22,777 --> 01:05:25,148
- Okay.
- Just warning you.
1192
01:05:25,148 --> 01:05:28,360
- Okay, it's my understanding
from what I heard
1193
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:29,470
in the grapevine that,
1194
01:05:29,470 --> 01:05:33,130
that was sort of an amicable
separation, and, um...
1195
01:05:34,423 --> 01:05:35,773
And I don't know that this is true,
1196
01:05:35,773 --> 01:05:37,850
but the hearsay is sort
of that he didn't feel
1197
01:05:37,850 --> 01:05:40,030
that he had as much a
role in the songwriting
1198
01:05:40,030 --> 01:05:42,073
as he wanted to have, or...
1199
01:05:42,970 --> 01:05:45,240
- I think that there's some truth to that,
1200
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:50,200
and I think there's an effort
made for it to be amicable.
1201
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,883
- Since Jeff's solo tour
and Glenn joining the band,
1202
01:05:54,860 --> 01:05:58,010
some dynamics in the band had altered
1203
01:05:58,010 --> 01:06:01,240
in many different ways.
1204
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,530
- I think Jay's contribution
to the band over time,
1205
01:06:04,530 --> 01:06:07,510
and our collaboration, was important
1206
01:06:07,510 --> 01:06:10,010
and was valued in the band.
1207
01:06:10,010 --> 01:06:14,120
As for the circumstances
surrounding him leaving,
1208
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,340
I really think that that's
up to Jay to define,
1209
01:06:17,340 --> 01:06:19,600
and as far as, uh,
1210
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,570
my, uh, feelings about it,
1211
01:06:22,570 --> 01:06:24,430
I couldn't be happier.
1212
01:06:24,430 --> 01:06:25,980
- Jeff was convinced that he really needed
1213
01:06:25,980 --> 01:06:28,070
to tell Jay directly, and he needed to be
1214
01:06:28,070 --> 01:06:29,250
the guy to do it.
1215
01:06:29,250 --> 01:06:30,083
- We sat down.
1216
01:06:30,083 --> 01:06:32,487
He said, "I don't think I can make music
1217
01:06:32,487 --> 01:06:34,830
"with you anymore,"
1218
01:06:34,830 --> 01:06:36,047
and I said, Why?"
1219
01:06:36,910 --> 01:06:38,130
And, uh...
1220
01:06:40,700 --> 01:06:45,160
I'm not sure I ever got an
answer that made any sense.
1221
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,640
- Jay wore out his welcome
1222
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,170
in a lot of ways.
1223
01:06:49,170 --> 01:06:53,663
- It's hard to be working with somebody,
1224
01:06:53,663 --> 01:06:54,496
uh,
1225
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:02,050
that needs more than you can give him,
1226
01:07:02,050 --> 01:07:06,440
and, you know, I'm more
interested in playing music
1227
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,100
with people that I can share with
1228
01:07:08,100 --> 01:07:09,880
than give things to.
1229
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,560
- Jeff was threatened by me.
1230
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:13,623
It's clear.
1231
01:07:14,510 --> 01:07:19,110
By the attention I was
beginning to get, um...
1232
01:07:20,300 --> 01:07:21,460
Uh...
1233
01:07:22,530 --> 01:07:25,400
He wanted the band back, that's simple.
1234
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,300
That's the simple answer, you know.
1235
01:07:27,300 --> 01:07:29,470
Jeff went into this big long analogy
1236
01:07:29,470 --> 01:07:33,010
about how a circle needs
a center, you know?
1237
01:07:33,010 --> 01:07:35,380
Well, he was gonna be the center, right?
1238
01:07:35,380 --> 01:07:37,000
I wasn't gonna be the center.
1239
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,483
- It's hard for me to talk about.
1240
01:07:40,370 --> 01:07:45,320
Um, I mean, I've known Jay
for (tongue clicks) 16 years,
1241
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:46,393
17 years?
1242
01:07:47,510 --> 01:07:48,343
And,
1243
01:07:49,990 --> 01:07:52,820
our friendship had, uh...
1244
01:07:55,460 --> 01:07:56,890
Run its course.
1245
01:07:56,890 --> 01:08:00,400
- There's a lot of power
related issues in Wilco,
1246
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:01,940
and people are,
1247
01:08:01,940 --> 01:08:04,970
they don't wanna lost their gig, man.
1248
01:08:04,970 --> 01:08:09,103
And so they don't wanna step
outside of their little, uh...
1249
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:18,920
Scripted role 'cause if they
do, this is what happens.
1250
01:08:19,390 --> 01:08:22,250
- I think we all knew
everyone would be happier
1251
01:08:22,250 --> 01:08:25,270
in the end, and I think Jay
would totally agree with that.
1252
01:08:25,270 --> 01:08:28,540
- It did not come as a total
shock to me to be asked
1253
01:08:28,540 --> 01:08:29,920
to leave Wilco.
1254
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:33,480
It had been in the back of my mind.
1255
01:08:33,480 --> 01:08:36,800
In fact, I'd talked to Leroy
about this extensively,
1256
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,677
that to quote myself,
1257
01:08:39,677 --> 01:08:42,300
"My days in Wilco are numbered."
1258
01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:44,950
I had thought very, very, seriously
1259
01:08:44,950 --> 01:08:46,830
about leaving the band.
1260
01:08:46,830 --> 01:08:49,080
I just happened to be beaten to the punch.
1261
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:54,080
- When you're Jay Bennett or
whomever and you leave the band
1262
01:08:54,440 --> 01:08:56,800
you have to kind of start over.
1263
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:01,400
You're going back to playing
for 35 people or 100 people
1264
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:05,195
or whatever from sold-out theaters.
1265
01:09:05,195 --> 01:09:08,371
♪ So sleep now ♪
1266
01:09:08,371 --> 01:09:11,275
♪ My darling ♪
1267
01:09:11,275 --> 01:09:16,275
♪ And I'll keep all the bad dreams away ♪
1268
01:09:18,334 --> 01:09:23,334
♪ And breathe now, breathe easy ♪
1269
01:09:24,446 --> 01:09:29,446
♪ And I will say all the
right things to say ♪
1270
01:09:31,134 --> 01:09:36,134
♪ Because we made you, my darling ♪
1271
01:09:37,774 --> 01:09:42,774
♪ From the love that was in our hearts ♪
1272
01:09:44,264 --> 01:09:48,202
♪ We were a family ♪
1273
01:09:48,202 --> 01:09:49,965
♪ My darling ♪
1274
01:09:49,965 --> 01:09:53,215
♪ Right from the start ♪
1275
01:10:04,483 --> 01:10:07,585
♪ Grow up now ♪
1276
01:10:07,585 --> 01:10:10,974
♪ My darling ♪
1277
01:10:10,974 --> 01:10:15,974
♪ Just don't grow up so fast ♪
1278
01:10:17,442 --> 01:10:20,693
♪ Be careful ♪
1279
01:10:20,693 --> 01:10:24,085
♪ My darling ♪
1280
01:10:24,085 --> 01:10:28,423
♪ To make all the good times last ♪
1281
01:10:28,423 --> 01:10:29,473
- [Tony] They delivered a great record,
1282
01:10:29,473 --> 01:10:31,173
and I think it's the record company that,
1283
01:10:32,020 --> 01:10:32,970
for whatever reason,
1284
01:10:32,970 --> 01:10:37,510
can't handle that type of
great record, and so fantastic
1285
01:10:37,510 --> 01:10:39,050
let's go do something else.
1286
01:10:39,050 --> 01:10:42,260
- I don't know how to
make something other than
1287
01:10:42,260 --> 01:10:44,820
the record we made, and
1288
01:10:44,820 --> 01:10:46,900
I think to...
1289
01:10:46,900 --> 01:10:49,740
Entertain any of their half-ass,
1290
01:10:49,740 --> 01:10:50,980
fearful,
1291
01:10:50,980 --> 01:10:52,710
frightened
1292
01:10:52,710 --> 01:10:55,810
bullshit would be to compromise
1293
01:10:55,810 --> 01:10:59,055
something that is a big part of my soul.
1294
01:10:59,055 --> 01:10:59,888
(laughs) You know?
1295
01:10:59,888 --> 01:11:02,430
Like it's a part of my heart.
1296
01:11:02,430 --> 01:11:04,920
And I don't have any interest
in doing that anymore.
1297
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,860
- I think it's a really,
really, really strong record.
1298
01:11:07,860 --> 01:11:09,170
I think it's a statement,
1299
01:11:09,170 --> 01:11:12,070
I think it's the right
record for them to make now
1300
01:11:12,070 --> 01:11:13,460
in their career,
1301
01:11:13,460 --> 01:11:16,390
and I think there are dozens of labels
1302
01:11:16,390 --> 01:11:20,197
that would be ecstatic to have it and who,
1303
01:11:20,197 --> 01:11:21,860
if you delivered this record,
1304
01:11:21,860 --> 01:11:24,646
would call you up and be excited about it.
1305
01:11:24,646 --> 01:11:28,830
That's all. That's what I'm
tired of, is no enthusiasm.
1306
01:11:28,830 --> 01:11:30,995
Why is Wilco dropped
1307
01:11:30,995 --> 01:11:32,950
24 hours after they deliver
1308
01:11:32,950 --> 01:11:35,480
a record like Yankee Hotel Foxtrot?
1309
01:11:35,480 --> 01:11:36,313
Um...
1310
01:11:37,503 --> 01:11:39,118
I mean, we've contemplated that question
1311
01:11:39,118 --> 01:11:40,840
at great length over the summer,
1312
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,320
and in the end, I think
Tony and I both just sort of
1313
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:44,557
put our hands up and said,
1314
01:11:44,557 --> 01:11:46,117
"Well, I guess we're glad
that it just happened,
1315
01:11:46,117 --> 01:11:48,910
"and we won't try to
over-intellectualize it any further,"
1316
01:11:48,910 --> 01:11:50,336
but I really think looking back on it,
1317
01:11:50,336 --> 01:11:52,170
it's because of marketing,
1318
01:11:52,170 --> 01:11:54,920
and it's because you have
an artist like Jeff Tweedy
1319
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:59,840
who's put out, you know,
four or five records in a row
1320
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:02,310
with a record company,
1321
01:12:02,310 --> 01:12:05,020
and they haven't been able
to bring sales up to a level
1322
01:12:05,020 --> 01:12:07,350
where it's really significantly affecting
1323
01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:09,110
their bottom line.
1324
01:12:09,110 --> 01:12:11,260
They, I guess, stopped thinking about it
1325
01:12:11,260 --> 01:12:13,947
from a pure artistic level, and just say,
1326
01:12:13,947 --> 01:12:16,050
"We don't make money on this guy,"
1327
01:12:16,050 --> 01:12:19,750
and then he delivers a record
which, for whatever reasons,
1328
01:12:19,750 --> 01:12:22,900
they evaluate as being difficult to
1329
01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:27,543
raise to the next level of public appeal.
1330
01:12:29,230 --> 01:12:31,292
So they say, "Well, okay,
we're not going to,"
1331
01:12:31,292 --> 01:12:34,477
I guess to use a phrase,
"Throw good money after bad.
1332
01:12:34,477 --> 01:12:37,877
"We've spent $200,000
recording this record,
1333
01:12:37,877 --> 01:12:39,767
"but it's gonna cost us another $300,000
1334
01:12:39,767 --> 01:12:43,237
"or whatever to launch a
marketing campaign for it,
1335
01:12:43,237 --> 01:12:46,750
"and we just don't think we're
gonna make our money back."
1336
01:12:46,750 --> 01:12:49,223
So, they drop the artist.
1337
01:12:50,750 --> 01:12:53,180
This of course creates a situation for us
1338
01:12:53,180 --> 01:12:55,737
where we have a finished
record, and we wanna put it out.
1339
01:12:55,737 --> 01:12:58,140
- Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
has actually turned into
1340
01:12:58,140 --> 01:12:59,560
a kind of metaphor.
1341
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:03,900
It's now a measure of
what record companies,
1342
01:13:03,900 --> 01:13:05,830
or not even so much record companies,
1343
01:13:05,830 --> 01:13:08,840
but the corporations that
own record companies,
1344
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:10,540
are willing to put up with.
1345
01:13:10,540 --> 01:13:13,310
- Ultimately, what it came down to
1346
01:13:13,310 --> 01:13:15,097
was they had told Jeff Tweedy,
1347
01:13:15,097 --> 01:13:18,200
"We don't like your album,
we don't wanna release it."
1348
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,200
- In the end, you know,
it doesn't really matter
1349
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,470
who puts the record out.
1350
01:13:23,470 --> 01:13:27,500
Eventually, either in the near future
1351
01:13:27,500 --> 01:13:32,500
or in the way far distant
future, someone's gonna get it.
1352
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:34,628
As long as music is available,
1353
01:13:34,628 --> 01:13:36,201
someone will hear it.
1354
01:13:36,201 --> 01:13:37,827
- The record label must have
found it to be something
1355
01:13:37,827 --> 01:13:39,610
of a public relations problem
1356
01:13:39,610 --> 01:13:40,690
because of all of the,
1357
01:13:40,690 --> 01:13:42,790
the press really latched
on to the situation
1358
01:13:42,790 --> 01:13:45,705
as something of a...
1359
01:13:45,705 --> 01:13:48,410
Using Jeff something as
a poster boy as to what
1360
01:13:48,410 --> 01:13:50,900
problems were going on in
a lot of record companies
1361
01:13:50,900 --> 01:13:52,640
and in particular Warner Brothers
1362
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:53,850
with their artist rosters,
1363
01:13:53,850 --> 01:13:56,840
and they didn't want it to blow
up any further than it did,
1364
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:58,093
so they, um,
1365
01:13:59,090 --> 01:14:00,560
after a certain amount of
1366
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,893
anxiety-ridden conversations,
1367
01:14:04,848 --> 01:14:06,267
said, "We think the right thing to do is
1368
01:14:06,267 --> 01:14:07,777
"let you take your record somewhere else,
1369
01:14:07,777 --> 01:14:08,810
"wherever you like."
1370
01:14:08,810 --> 01:14:10,220
- Every time we put out a record,
1371
01:14:10,220 --> 01:14:11,470
the length of time
1372
01:14:11,470 --> 01:14:16,470
that a record company's willing
to actually even humor you
1373
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,930
about working on your
record has gotten shorter.
1374
01:14:19,930 --> 01:14:22,530
- Music is not limited to what happens
1375
01:14:22,530 --> 01:14:25,990
in a business quarter, and...
1376
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:31,980
You know,
1377
01:14:31,980 --> 01:14:33,720
this
1378
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:35,500
is a record, okay?
1379
01:14:35,500 --> 01:14:37,770
This is something that
probably someone will buy,
1380
01:14:37,770 --> 01:14:40,590
they'll pay 15, 16 whatever bucks for it,
1381
01:14:40,590 --> 01:14:42,340
and that's cool but,
1382
01:14:42,340 --> 01:14:44,800
what's encoded somewhere in
the bottom of this thing,
1383
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,050
this dopey little disk, you know,
1384
01:14:47,050 --> 01:14:48,930
that's what matters.
1385
01:14:48,930 --> 01:14:53,040
This, the artifact, the
actual object does not.
1386
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,571
What's encoded in here, if it's any good,
1387
01:14:57,150 --> 01:14:58,390
you'll hear it.
1388
01:14:58,390 --> 01:15:00,360
And you'll either get it, or you won't.
1389
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:01,970
And,
1390
01:15:01,970 --> 01:15:02,803
just as,
1391
01:15:03,834 --> 01:15:04,667
as a writer,
1392
01:15:04,667 --> 01:15:07,680
as a fan, as a guy who just
listens to music a lot,
1393
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:12,313
if you don't get it, I just
think that's kinda too bad.
1394
01:15:12,313 --> 01:15:14,813
(light music)
1395
01:15:19,633 --> 01:15:23,415
♪ There's a magazine called Sunset ♪
1396
01:15:23,415 --> 01:15:27,295
♪ And a tape machine that won't let ♪
1397
01:15:27,295 --> 01:15:32,295
♪ Me ever forget this
impossible longing for you. ♪
1398
01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:35,540
- Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
has been finished now
1399
01:15:35,540 --> 01:15:37,060
for about six months.
1400
01:15:37,060 --> 01:15:39,233
The band have done a
little bit of touring.
1401
01:15:41,438 --> 01:15:43,947
Word got out that the band
were out of their deal,
1402
01:15:43,947 --> 01:15:46,743
and we started getting a lot of calls,
1403
01:15:48,604 --> 01:15:51,760
and basically we started
talking to people.
1404
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,472
I think we were dealing with
1405
01:15:53,472 --> 01:15:56,550
about 25 or 30 labels initially,
1406
01:15:56,550 --> 01:15:58,800
and then as time passed,
1407
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,750
we have been whittling the list down,
1408
01:16:01,750 --> 01:16:04,340
and we're now talking to,
1409
01:16:04,340 --> 01:16:05,650
five or so,
1410
01:16:05,650 --> 01:16:09,363
and hope to have that resolved
in the next week or two.
1411
01:16:11,010 --> 01:16:12,624
- I don't have any money.
1412
01:16:12,624 --> 01:16:14,058
- Don't worry.
1413
01:16:17,020 --> 01:16:19,700
Oh, I only have six dollars.
1414
01:16:19,700 --> 01:16:21,376
You want something to eat, Sammy?
1415
01:16:21,376 --> 01:16:23,243
- Yes.
1416
01:16:23,243 --> 01:16:24,794
I want something to eat.
1417
01:16:24,794 --> 01:16:25,627
- What do you want?
1418
01:16:25,627 --> 01:16:27,630
- Want soda!
1419
01:16:27,630 --> 01:16:30,436
- Soda? Honey, I don't have enough money.
1420
01:16:32,104 --> 01:16:33,590
- I'll go get some money.
1421
01:16:33,590 --> 01:16:36,430
- Never in my wildest,
1422
01:16:36,430 --> 01:16:38,010
most optimistic moment
1423
01:16:38,010 --> 01:16:40,180
did I think that we'd be sitting here
1424
01:16:40,180 --> 01:16:41,480
in the position we're in right now
1425
01:16:41,480 --> 01:16:43,660
which is with a finished record
1426
01:16:44,810 --> 01:16:46,380
that
1427
01:16:46,380 --> 01:16:49,590
is ours to take wherever we want.
1428
01:16:49,590 --> 01:16:53,150
You could certainly
say that they fucked up
1429
01:16:53,150 --> 01:16:56,520
by letting the band go and
walk away with the record.
1430
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,520
It's really an opportunity
that maybe comes along
1431
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:00,811
once in a career.
1432
01:17:02,260 --> 01:17:04,840
- The claw machine ripped him off.
1433
01:17:06,810 --> 01:17:07,833
No, it...
1434
01:17:09,263 --> 01:17:10,591
It went by itself.
1435
01:17:11,783 --> 01:17:13,214
- Tony smell Sam's butt.
1436
01:17:13,214 --> 01:17:14,047
- No, thanks.
1437
01:17:14,047 --> 01:17:15,997
- I need to know if he needs a diaper.
1438
01:17:15,997 --> 01:17:20,890
- I think he does. (laughs)
1439
01:17:20,890 --> 01:17:24,620
- I was surprised at the
number of record companies
1440
01:17:24,620 --> 01:17:27,690
that were willing to pay
a large amount of money
1441
01:17:27,690 --> 01:17:29,880
to be sort of in the Wilco picture.
1442
01:17:32,866 --> 01:17:35,325
(hands patting)
1443
01:17:35,325 --> 01:17:36,935
- Recognize it?
1444
01:17:36,935 --> 01:17:38,695
- Was is it?
1445
01:17:38,695 --> 01:17:40,325
- Guess, it's one of your songs.
1446
01:17:40,325 --> 01:17:41,327
- It's one of my songs?
1447
01:17:41,327 --> 01:17:43,384
I'm Trying To Break Your Heart?
1448
01:17:43,384 --> 01:17:46,023
- No.
- Uh, I Need A Kamera?
1449
01:17:46,023 --> 01:17:48,000
- No.
- Dreamer In My Dreams?
1450
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,164
- No.
1451
01:17:49,164 --> 01:17:51,831
(hands patting)
1452
01:17:54,004 --> 01:17:54,837
- No?
1453
01:17:54,837 --> 01:17:56,370
Casino Queen?
- Uh, uh.
1454
01:17:56,370 --> 01:17:57,697
- California Stars?
- No.
1455
01:17:58,940 --> 01:17:59,800
- Tell me.
1456
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:03,650
- It's something with a drum in it.
1457
01:18:03,650 --> 01:18:04,835
- Heavy Metal Drummer.
1458
01:18:04,835 --> 01:18:06,020
- Yes.
1459
01:18:06,020 --> 01:18:07,020
- How's that go?
1460
01:18:09,300 --> 01:18:11,967
(hands patting)
1461
01:18:13,022 --> 01:18:16,491
♪ I sincerely miss those
heavy metal bands ♪
1462
01:18:16,491 --> 01:18:20,691
♪ I used to go see on the
landing in the summer ♪
1463
01:18:20,691 --> 01:18:22,610
♪ She fell in love with the drummer ♪
1464
01:18:22,610 --> 01:18:24,660
♪ She fell in love with the drummer ♪
1465
01:18:24,660 --> 01:18:28,822
♪ She fell in love ♪
1466
01:18:28,822 --> 01:18:32,792
♪ Shiny, shiny pants and
bleached blonde hair ♪
1467
01:18:32,792 --> 01:18:36,831
♪ A double kick drum by
the river in the summer ♪
1468
01:18:36,831 --> 01:18:38,814
♪ She fell in love with the drummer ♪
1469
01:18:38,814 --> 01:18:40,803
♪ Another and another ♪
1470
01:18:40,803 --> 01:18:45,374
♪ She fell in love ♪
1471
01:18:45,374 --> 01:18:50,374
♪ I miss the innocence I've known ♪
1472
01:18:53,252 --> 01:18:58,252
♪ Playing Kiss covers,
beautiful and stoned ♪
1473
01:19:05,454 --> 01:19:09,312
♪ Unlock my body and
move myself to dance ♪
1474
01:19:09,312 --> 01:19:13,352
♪ In the warm liquid,
flowing blowing glass ♪
1475
01:19:13,352 --> 01:19:17,017
♪ Classical music blasting
masks the ringing in my ears ♪
1476
01:19:17,017 --> 01:19:19,355
- The record had started
to leak a little bit
1477
01:19:19,355 --> 01:19:21,010
from labels and so on,
1478
01:19:21,010 --> 01:19:23,400
and copies were starting
to float around and,
1479
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,490
initially we tried to
1480
01:19:26,460 --> 01:19:27,470
slow it down.
1481
01:19:27,470 --> 01:19:29,080
We knew we couldn't stop it,
1482
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,077
and then at some point,
I think we just decided,
1483
01:19:31,077 --> 01:19:32,727
"You know what? It's out there.
1484
01:19:32,727 --> 01:19:34,977
"Let's embrace it and make it available
1485
01:19:34,977 --> 01:19:37,560
"through our website if
people wanna hear it."
1486
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,500
- For the most part, a lot
of people were really aware
1487
01:19:39,500 --> 01:19:43,480
of the new songs to the point
where I think a lot of people
1488
01:19:43,480 --> 01:19:45,652
in the front row, at
least, knew all the words.
1489
01:19:45,652 --> 01:19:50,652
♪ Playing Kiss covers,
beautiful and stoned ♪
1490
01:19:54,091 --> 01:19:59,091
♪ I miss the innocence I've known ♪
1491
01:20:01,881 --> 01:20:06,881
♪ Playing Kiss covers,
beautiful and stoned ♪
1492
01:20:09,932 --> 01:20:14,932
♪ Playing Kiss covers,
beautiful and stoned ♪
1493
01:20:18,020 --> 01:20:23,020
♪ Playing Kiss covers,
beautiful and stoned ♪
1494
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:27,495
♪ Woo-Hoo, Woo-Hoo ♪
1495
01:20:27,495 --> 01:20:31,557
♪ Woo-Hoo, hey ♪
1496
01:20:31,557 --> 01:20:35,506
♪ Woo-Hoo, Woo-Hoo ♪
1497
01:20:35,506 --> 01:20:38,089
♪ Woo-Hoo, hey ♪
1498
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:00,730
- After,
1499
01:21:00,730 --> 01:21:01,932
months of
1500
01:21:03,180 --> 01:21:06,300
discussions and ruminations,
1501
01:21:06,300 --> 01:21:08,500
we have decided to sign,
1502
01:21:08,500 --> 01:21:11,370
the band's gonna sing to Nonesuch Records.
1503
01:21:11,370 --> 01:21:14,450
We've agreed to all the major terms, so
1504
01:21:15,310 --> 01:21:18,960
the record will come out
on Nonesuch in April.
1505
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,810
I do find it ironic
1506
01:21:21,810 --> 01:21:23,460
and a little humorous
1507
01:21:23,460 --> 01:21:25,990
that Time Warner is the parent company
1508
01:21:25,990 --> 01:21:27,630
of both of these labels,
1509
01:21:27,630 --> 01:21:29,821
Reprise and Nonesuch.
1510
01:21:29,821 --> 01:21:31,012
- Are you Jeff?
- Yeah.
1511
01:21:31,012 --> 01:21:33,080
- Nice to meet you.
- You, too.
1512
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,130
- [Josh] One way to put the
reason for picking Nonesuch
1513
01:21:35,130 --> 01:21:36,805
is that they were the best combination
1514
01:21:36,805 --> 01:21:40,360
of a business deal and a creative home.
1515
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:43,460
- In hearing the record,
in the first 30 seconds,
1516
01:21:43,460 --> 01:21:45,860
I felt that there was something going on
1517
01:21:45,860 --> 01:21:47,390
with this record that I hadn't heard
1518
01:21:47,390 --> 01:21:51,205
in a Wilco record before, and that was,
1519
01:21:51,205 --> 01:21:52,978
it sounded brave to me.
1520
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,045
It may have been the same 30
seconds that convinced Reprise
1521
01:21:57,045 --> 01:21:58,990
that they didn't wanna put out the record.
1522
01:21:58,990 --> 01:22:01,740
(pages flipping)
1523
01:22:06,490 --> 01:22:08,131
- [Josh] Okay, you ready
to start signing things?
1524
01:22:08,131 --> 01:22:08,964
- Mmhmm.
1525
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:13,473
Yeah, looks good.
1526
01:22:14,350 --> 01:22:16,791
- (laughs) Hold on.
1527
01:22:16,791 --> 01:22:18,850
- [Josh] One more, yup.
1528
01:22:18,850 --> 01:22:21,410
This is to get paid.
1529
01:22:21,410 --> 01:22:22,891
- Definitely sign that one.
1530
01:22:22,891 --> 01:22:24,167
- Okay, and I sign here.
1531
01:22:24,167 --> 01:22:25,763
- You sign there.
1532
01:22:29,027 --> 01:22:30,800
And you're back in the fire.
1533
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,020
- Thanks.
1534
01:22:32,020 --> 01:22:33,111
- It's a deal.
1535
01:22:33,111 --> 01:22:36,122
(guitar playing)
1536
01:22:36,122 --> 01:22:39,109
♪ Be not so nervous ♪
1537
01:22:39,109 --> 01:22:42,562
♪ Be not so pale ♪
1538
01:22:42,562 --> 01:22:45,551
♪ Someone watches you ♪
1539
01:22:45,551 --> 01:22:48,751
♪ You will not fail ♪
1540
01:22:48,751 --> 01:22:53,751
♪ Be not so nervous, be not so pale ♪
1541
01:22:55,092 --> 01:23:00,092
♪ Be not so nervous, be not so pale ♪
1542
01:23:01,301 --> 01:23:06,301
♪ Be not so sorry for what you've done ♪
1543
01:23:07,831 --> 01:23:12,831
♪ You must forget them now, it's done ♪
1544
01:23:14,030 --> 01:23:15,741
♪ And when you wake up ♪
1545
01:23:15,741 --> 01:23:18,800
♪ You will find that you can run ♪
1546
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:20,560
- [Tony] We're about two months away
1547
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,270
from the record coming out.
1548
01:23:22,270 --> 01:23:23,513
Advances are here.
1549
01:23:24,580 --> 01:23:26,890
Jeff is in town doing press,
he goes to Europe next week
1550
01:23:26,890 --> 01:23:29,003
to do press, it all begins now.
1551
01:23:30,171 --> 01:23:35,171
♪ Be not so fearful, be not so frail ♪
1552
01:23:36,413 --> 01:23:38,493
♪ Someone watches you ♪
1553
01:23:38,493 --> 01:23:41,581
♪ You will not leave the rails ♪
1554
01:23:41,581 --> 01:23:43,673
- [David voiceover] What are
we, almost eight or nine months
1555
01:23:43,673 --> 01:23:45,515
since the record was
originally planned to come out
1556
01:23:45,515 --> 01:23:46,938
on another label?
1557
01:23:46,938 --> 01:23:49,967
It's been a long road,
but it's the beginning.
1558
01:23:49,967 --> 01:23:54,967
♪ Be not so fearful, be not so pale ♪
1559
01:23:56,316 --> 01:24:01,316
♪ Be not so sorry for what you've done ♪
1560
01:24:02,856 --> 01:24:05,620
♪ You must forget them now, it's done ♪
1561
01:24:05,620 --> 01:24:07,068
- [David] We couldn't be more excited
1562
01:24:07,068 --> 01:24:09,110
about the longterm prospects of being able
1563
01:24:09,110 --> 01:24:10,479
to work with this band.
1564
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:15,479
♪ You will find that you can run ♪
1565
01:24:15,598 --> 01:24:19,340
♪ Be not so sorry for what you've done ♪
1566
01:24:19,340 --> 01:24:22,240
- It's a long road to here, but you know,
1567
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:25,048
it's a new chapter now, and we're,
1568
01:24:25,048 --> 01:24:26,747
couldn't be more optimistic.
1569
01:24:26,747 --> 01:24:28,619
(drums playing)
1570
01:24:28,619 --> 01:24:31,369
(crowd cheering)
1571
01:24:41,444 --> 01:24:44,733
Choo-Choo Charlie had a plenty good band
1572
01:24:44,733 --> 01:24:49,733
♪ But he couldn't understand
why no one would go ♪
1573
01:24:52,434 --> 01:24:55,833
♪ The World Record Players
on a tour of Japan ♪
1574
01:24:55,833 --> 01:25:00,833
♪ Charlie's fixing his
van with a left arm tan ♪
1575
01:25:02,834 --> 01:25:03,667
♪ He said, ♪
1576
01:25:03,667 --> 01:25:07,634
♪ Monday, I'm all high ♪
1577
01:25:07,634 --> 01:25:10,594
♪ Get me out of FLA ♪
1578
01:25:10,594 --> 01:25:12,284
♪ In school, yeah ♪
1579
01:25:12,284 --> 01:25:14,594
♪ I fooled ya ♪
1580
01:25:14,594 --> 01:25:18,427
♪ Now I know I made a mistake ♪
1581
01:25:25,914 --> 01:25:28,855
♪ Blister on a turnpike, let me by ♪
1582
01:25:28,855 --> 01:25:33,855
♪ I only want to wonder
why when I don't die ♪
1583
01:25:36,693 --> 01:25:40,503
♪ Ooh, I shot you, yeah, I know ♪
1584
01:25:40,503 --> 01:25:45,503
♪ I only want to go where my wheels roll ♪
1585
01:25:47,914 --> 01:25:51,975
♪ Monday, I'm all high ♪
1586
01:25:51,975 --> 01:25:54,914
♪ Get me out FLA ♪
1587
01:25:54,914 --> 01:25:58,863
♪ I fooled ya in school, yeah ♪
1588
01:25:58,863 --> 01:26:02,644
♪ Now I know I made a mistake ♪
1589
01:26:02,644 --> 01:26:05,644
(upbeat rock music)
1590
01:26:18,396 --> 01:26:21,146
(Jeff whistling)
1591
01:26:35,792 --> 01:26:38,944
♪ Everybody's wondering where'd he go ♪
1592
01:26:38,944 --> 01:26:43,944
♪ He must be down in Pensacola
hiding from the snow ♪
1593
01:26:46,763 --> 01:26:50,132
♪ The World Record Players
on a tour of Japan ♪
1594
01:26:50,132 --> 01:26:52,694
♪ Charlie's fixin' his van ♪
1595
01:26:52,694 --> 01:26:57,122
♪ He's waiting for a postcard ♪
1596
01:26:57,122 --> 01:26:57,955
♪ And he said ♪
1597
01:26:57,955 --> 01:27:01,683
♪ Monday, I'm all high ♪
1598
01:27:01,683 --> 01:27:04,424
♪ Get me out of FLA ♪
1599
01:27:04,424 --> 01:27:06,411
♪ Well, I cut class ♪
1600
01:27:06,411 --> 01:27:08,554
♪ In school, yeah ♪
1601
01:27:08,554 --> 01:27:12,914
♪ Now I know I made a mistake ♪
1602
01:27:12,914 --> 01:27:14,581
I made a big mistake
1603
01:27:16,734 --> 01:27:18,101
(Jeff screaming)
1604
01:27:48,477 --> 01:27:49,964
♪ All right ♪
1605
01:27:49,964 --> 01:27:51,730
♪ All right ♪
1606
01:27:51,730 --> 01:27:53,463
♪ All right ♪
1607
01:27:53,463 --> 01:27:55,192
♪ All right ♪
1608
01:27:55,192 --> 01:27:57,113
♪ All right ♪
1609
01:27:57,113 --> 01:27:58,914
♪ All right ♪
1610
01:27:58,914 --> 01:28:00,692
♪ All right ♪
1611
01:28:00,692 --> 01:28:02,874
♪ All right ♪
1612
01:28:02,874 --> 01:28:05,624
(crowd cheering)
1613
01:28:10,890 --> 01:28:11,981
- [Tony] That's the coup,
1614
01:28:11,981 --> 01:28:14,823
that's like the coup of all time for us.
1615
01:28:16,490 --> 01:28:18,950
To basically get, you know,
1616
01:28:18,950 --> 01:28:22,690
one of the biggest entertainment
corporations in the world
1617
01:28:22,690 --> 01:28:27,400
to release us from a contract,
essentially scot-free
1618
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:30,130
with a record that they
had already paid for
1619
01:28:30,130 --> 01:28:33,350
and then sell it back to them
for three times the money.
1620
01:28:33,350 --> 01:28:35,340
They disliked the record
so much that they paid
1621
01:28:35,340 --> 01:28:37,793
for it twice. (laughs)
1622
01:28:47,580 --> 01:28:49,140
- [Voiceover] Hold your breath,
1623
01:28:49,140 --> 01:28:51,293
make a wish, count to three.
1624
01:28:52,623 --> 01:28:56,303
♪ Come with me, and you'll be ♪
1625
01:28:56,303 --> 01:29:00,583
♪ In a world of pure imagination ♪
1626
01:29:00,583 --> 01:29:03,961
♪ Take a look, and you'll see ♪
1627
01:29:03,961 --> 01:29:08,961
♪ Into your imagination ♪
1628
01:29:13,771 --> 01:29:17,591
♪ We'll begin with a spin ♪
1629
01:29:17,591 --> 01:29:21,823
♪ Traveling in the world of my creation ♪
1630
01:29:21,823 --> 01:29:26,662
♪ What we'll see will defy ♪
1631
01:29:26,662 --> 01:29:29,162
♪ Explanation ♪
1632
01:29:39,303 --> 01:29:43,062
♪ If you want to view paradise ♪
1633
01:29:43,062 --> 01:29:47,531
♪ Simply look around and view it ♪
1634
01:29:47,531 --> 01:29:51,511
♪ Anything you want to, do it ♪
1635
01:29:51,511 --> 01:29:55,190
♪ Want to change the world ♪
1636
01:29:55,190 --> 01:29:58,463
♪ There's nothing to it ♪
1637
01:29:58,463 --> 01:30:00,963
(light music)
1638
01:30:15,623 --> 01:30:18,332
♪ There is no life I know ♪
1639
01:30:18,332 --> 01:30:21,681
♪ To compare with pure imagination ♪
1640
01:30:21,681 --> 01:30:24,852
♪ Living there you'll be free ♪
1641
01:30:24,852 --> 01:30:28,352
♪ If you truly wish to be ♪
1642
01:31:09,870 --> 01:31:13,827
♪ If you want to view paradise ♪
1643
01:31:13,827 --> 01:31:17,519
♪ Simply look around and view it ♪
1644
01:31:17,519 --> 01:31:21,600
♪ Anything you want to, do it ♪
1645
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:24,291
♪ Want to change the world ♪
1646
01:31:24,291 --> 01:31:27,017
♪ There's nothing ♪
1647
01:31:27,017 --> 01:31:29,017
♪ To it ♪
1648
01:31:40,148 --> 01:31:45,148
♪ There is no life I know ♪
1649
01:31:45,586 --> 01:31:50,586
♪ To compare with pure imagination ♪
1650
01:31:51,987 --> 01:31:55,386
♪ Living there ♪
1651
01:31:55,386 --> 01:31:58,488
♪ You'll be free ♪
1652
01:31:58,488 --> 01:32:03,488
♪ If you truly ♪
1653
01:32:03,787 --> 01:32:06,005
♪ Wish ♪
1654
01:32:06,005 --> 01:32:08,005
♪ To be ♪
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