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Hi. 6 00:01:43,842 --> 00:01:46,410 [piano music] 7 00:01:52,199 --> 00:01:53,417 [Trey] There it is. 8 00:01:59,597 --> 00:02:01,947 All I do on the piano is compose, 9 00:02:01,991 --> 00:02:04,254 which is very slow when I use the paper and compose. 10 00:02:04,298 --> 00:02:07,257 And that's it, I don't really play the piano, so... 11 00:02:11,696 --> 00:02:13,263 If you're composing, it's great, 12 00:02:13,307 --> 00:02:15,047 'cause you can see how all the chords lay out. 13 00:02:17,441 --> 00:02:19,008 When Phish started, 14 00:02:19,051 --> 00:02:21,184 I didn't know I was gonna be in a rock band. 15 00:02:21,228 --> 00:02:23,795 I thought I was gonna be a composer. [laughs] 16 00:02:23,839 --> 00:02:28,539 A lot of the first Phish stuff was heavily composed. 17 00:02:29,453 --> 00:02:32,282 This is the tune "Foam" that we do. 18 00:02:32,326 --> 00:02:35,633 This is all written out. It's a big chart. It's all... 19 00:02:35,677 --> 00:02:39,289 And also "You Enjoy Myself" was that... 20 00:02:39,333 --> 00:02:41,117 a lot of the early stuff. 21 00:02:41,161 --> 00:02:43,815 It wasn't like rock music. I don't really know what it was. 22 00:02:43,859 --> 00:02:46,035 It's a weird band, I mean... 23 00:02:47,079 --> 00:02:50,170 It's not really... I don't know what kind of music this is. 24 00:02:50,213 --> 00:02:52,911 -[laughing] -[music over phone] 25 00:02:56,611 --> 00:02:58,700 You know what I mean? All that shit. 26 00:02:58,743 --> 00:03:00,702 One guy who was in the band pretty much quit 27 00:03:00,745 --> 00:03:03,400 because he was like, "What the hell is this?" 28 00:03:04,662 --> 00:03:05,968 [guitar music] 29 00:03:06,011 --> 00:03:07,056 [indistinct singing] 30 00:03:20,765 --> 00:03:24,595 This is the boring reality of what I do every morning now. 31 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,032 It's just that all these lyrics are wrong. 32 00:03:27,076 --> 00:03:29,078 Now I have to write them all down again. 33 00:03:31,341 --> 00:03:34,170 ♪ I pulled a thread Out of the air ♪ 34 00:03:35,867 --> 00:03:38,435 ♪ Golden and shining As thin as a hair ♪ 35 00:03:39,219 --> 00:03:43,440 I always have a lot of projects going on: TAB, Solo Acoustic... 36 00:03:43,484 --> 00:03:46,443 but the musical center of my life is Phish. 37 00:03:47,444 --> 00:03:49,533 We've been playing together since 1983. 38 00:03:49,577 --> 00:03:50,882 [Jon] Yo. 39 00:03:50,926 --> 00:03:53,363 -How you doing? -[Jon] Good, man. 40 00:03:53,407 --> 00:03:56,061 I'm sitting here, like, working on "Thread" right now. 41 00:03:56,105 --> 00:03:57,889 [Jon] Yeah. Yeah. 42 00:03:57,933 --> 00:04:01,110 Basically, just refer to the demo for the tempo. 43 00:04:01,153 --> 00:04:02,851 -Yeah. -Yeah, yeah. 44 00:04:02,894 --> 00:04:04,809 -'Cause it's like-- -I hadn't got that far yet. 45 00:04:04,853 --> 00:04:06,811 So funny, I was just sitting here, like,[unclear]. 46 00:04:06,855 --> 00:04:08,726 I was just thinking of that tune, like, I was singing-- 47 00:04:08,770 --> 00:04:11,425 I know, it sticks in my head so much. 48 00:04:11,468 --> 00:04:13,470 -Yeah. -Doesn't it? It's like, 49 00:04:13,514 --> 00:04:16,168 ♪ I pulled a thread Out of the air ♪ 50 00:04:16,212 --> 00:04:18,345 [scat singing] 51 00:04:18,388 --> 00:04:20,782 I think we kind of got it up because we were excited. 52 00:04:20,825 --> 00:04:23,306 [scat singing] You know, that was me. 53 00:04:23,350 --> 00:04:25,047 -It was hopping right along. -It was hopping. 54 00:04:25,090 --> 00:04:27,049 That's the only thing I was gonna say. 55 00:04:27,092 --> 00:04:29,443 I really liked "Come Together," "Frost," 56 00:04:29,486 --> 00:04:30,792 "A Case of Ice and Snow," 57 00:04:32,446 --> 00:04:35,057 and that "Love's Only A Number" thing. That's just the best. 58 00:04:35,100 --> 00:04:38,060 [Jon] That one seemed almost the most[unclear] to me, 59 00:04:38,103 --> 00:04:41,193 with just, you know, with just the little that we put on it. 60 00:04:41,237 --> 00:04:42,934 That's good. That's great. 61 00:04:42,978 --> 00:04:44,327 Then Mike will have a couple of songs, 62 00:04:44,371 --> 00:04:45,676 and Page will have a couple of songs, 63 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,287 and you'll have, you know, whatever. 64 00:04:47,330 --> 00:04:49,071 And then we'll have songs. 65 00:04:49,114 --> 00:04:50,725 Yeah, that's great. 66 00:04:50,768 --> 00:04:52,248 [Trey] We need songs right now 67 00:04:52,292 --> 00:04:53,945 because we're trying to do this thing 68 00:04:53,989 --> 00:04:55,643 called the baker's dozen, 69 00:04:55,686 --> 00:04:57,993 where we're going to do 13 consecutive nights 70 00:04:58,036 --> 00:05:00,212 at Madison Square Garden, and we're gonna try to do them 71 00:05:00,256 --> 00:05:01,910 without any repeats. 72 00:05:01,953 --> 00:05:05,392 So, that'll be probably about 280 songs. 73 00:05:05,435 --> 00:05:09,004 You know, most bands do a similar show every night. 74 00:05:09,047 --> 00:05:11,876 So my head is kind of exploding with the whole thing. 75 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,836 It's exciting. 76 00:05:27,065 --> 00:05:30,591 I am writing this longform thing that I'm into now. 77 00:05:30,634 --> 00:05:32,810 This Ghosts of the Forest idea. 78 00:05:32,854 --> 00:05:35,160 My oldest friend Chris is now 79 00:05:35,204 --> 00:05:37,815 in this battle with cancer. He's stage four. 80 00:05:37,859 --> 00:05:39,600 He used to hunt elk. 81 00:05:39,643 --> 00:05:41,384 That's, like, where the title idea came from. 82 00:05:41,428 --> 00:05:43,299 Ghosts of the Forest. 83 00:05:43,343 --> 00:05:45,780 They called elk "ghosts of the forest" 84 00:05:45,823 --> 00:05:48,565 because you could be following a trail and they just vanish. 85 00:05:48,609 --> 00:05:50,915 You never know when the trail is going to end. 86 00:05:53,048 --> 00:05:55,703 I was thinking about my only sibling 87 00:05:55,746 --> 00:05:57,357 has passed away. 88 00:05:57,966 --> 00:06:02,274 Chris and both the girls have grown up. 89 00:06:03,754 --> 00:06:05,800 It's all just so fleeting. 90 00:06:11,371 --> 00:06:13,677 [acoustic music] 91 00:06:19,466 --> 00:06:22,817 ♪ Misty ships On the horizon line ♪ 92 00:06:22,860 --> 00:06:25,907 ♪ And the golden dome Is waking ♪ 93 00:06:25,950 --> 00:06:29,258 ♪ Morning birds arc In magnetic parade ♪ 94 00:06:29,301 --> 00:06:32,783 ♪ The dawn is slowly breaking 95 00:06:32,827 --> 00:06:36,396 ♪ Vapor splits Into yellow light ♪ 96 00:06:36,439 --> 00:06:39,399 ♪ The air is burning rapture 97 00:06:39,442 --> 00:06:42,750 ♪ Phantasm rings Of golden heat ♪ 98 00:06:42,793 --> 00:06:46,275 ♪ In red hypnotic pastures 99 00:06:46,318 --> 00:06:49,234 ♪ And high up On the mountaintop ♪ 100 00:06:49,278 --> 00:06:52,890 ♪ The silver smoke is rising 101 00:06:52,934 --> 00:06:55,458 ♪ High up on the mountaintop 102 00:06:55,502 --> 00:07:00,985 ♪ It twists and turns And drifts toward the sea ♪ 103 00:07:05,729 --> 00:07:09,385 ♪ The sea 104 00:07:09,429 --> 00:07:12,083 [acoustic music] 105 00:07:12,823 --> 00:07:14,477 ♪ I'm wide awake 106 00:07:15,870 --> 00:07:18,133 ♪ I'm wide awake 107 00:07:19,221 --> 00:07:21,092 ♪ I'm wide awake 108 00:07:22,442 --> 00:07:25,880 ♪ And the ghosts Are out to greet me ♪ 109 00:07:32,887 --> 00:07:36,760 A couple of albums ago, a door started opening up for me 110 00:07:36,804 --> 00:07:38,719 in terms of writing about personal things. 111 00:07:38,762 --> 00:07:40,764 I wrote a song about my sister called "Miss You" 112 00:07:40,808 --> 00:07:42,505 after she died. 113 00:07:42,549 --> 00:07:44,725 Once that door opens, it's like a floodgate. 114 00:07:45,682 --> 00:07:47,641 Suddenly you want to start writing about 115 00:07:47,684 --> 00:07:49,599 what you're really feeling in your personal life 116 00:07:49,643 --> 00:07:51,427 in a much more direct way. 117 00:07:53,690 --> 00:07:55,910 Suddenly, I'm writing about Sue, and I'm writing about 118 00:07:55,953 --> 00:07:58,565 my family and friends. 119 00:07:58,608 --> 00:08:00,392 And I want to talk to them and find out 120 00:08:00,436 --> 00:08:02,046 what is my mom's perspective? 121 00:08:02,090 --> 00:08:03,526 You know, what is my dad's perspective? 122 00:08:05,049 --> 00:08:07,661 Even as a parent, I've got my own story 123 00:08:07,704 --> 00:08:10,228 about how I raise my kids and stuff. 124 00:08:10,272 --> 00:08:12,622 You know, and maybe I just wanna learn the truth. 125 00:08:21,544 --> 00:08:23,851 My dad worked in Princeton. 126 00:08:23,894 --> 00:08:25,983 My Mom never really fit in Princeton. 127 00:08:26,027 --> 00:08:28,159 She's a New Yorker through and through. 128 00:08:28,769 --> 00:08:32,250 When I was 18, she said, "Go raise some money." 129 00:08:32,294 --> 00:08:34,296 We painted a couple of houses or something 130 00:08:34,339 --> 00:08:37,473 and I went and became a street musician in Europe. 131 00:08:37,517 --> 00:08:39,997 That's the kinda thing she would always encourage me to do. 132 00:08:40,041 --> 00:08:41,999 Very creative, wrote books. 133 00:08:42,043 --> 00:08:44,524 All kinds of creative people on that side of the family. 134 00:08:45,263 --> 00:08:46,830 [Dina] I think I've told you this before, 135 00:08:46,874 --> 00:08:48,658 when you were really little, 136 00:08:48,702 --> 00:08:51,226 four, five, six, you went to so many plays all the time. 137 00:08:51,269 --> 00:08:52,706 Peter Pan... 138 00:08:52,749 --> 00:08:54,490 [Trey] South Pacific, West Side Story. 139 00:08:54,534 --> 00:08:56,361 [Dina] I mean, Kristy and you, you both knew 140 00:08:56,405 --> 00:08:58,973 the lyrics to every single Broadway song. 141 00:09:00,104 --> 00:09:01,192 [Trey] Yeah. 142 00:09:03,368 --> 00:09:05,109 [Dina] A lot of Kristy's friends 143 00:09:05,153 --> 00:09:07,155 come and have lunch with me on this bench. 144 00:09:07,198 --> 00:09:09,505 So it's like, "Let's go to Kristy's bench and have lunch." 145 00:09:09,549 --> 00:09:10,985 And, you know, it's really good. 146 00:09:11,028 --> 00:09:12,813 -[Trey] I love the bench. -I love the bench. 147 00:09:12,856 --> 00:09:15,380 You know, during that whole time, I mean, you were... 148 00:09:15,424 --> 00:09:18,209 I don't know what we would have done without you. 149 00:09:18,253 --> 00:09:20,168 There's no good thing to say when it sucks. 150 00:09:20,211 --> 00:09:21,517 -I know. -It just sucks. 151 00:09:21,561 --> 00:09:23,214 It sucks. 152 00:09:23,258 --> 00:09:26,870 Anyway, there you go. But back to music. [laughs] 153 00:09:26,914 --> 00:09:29,003 I remember you guys had big parties. 154 00:09:29,046 --> 00:09:31,658 -We had big parties. -And they went on for two days 155 00:09:31,701 --> 00:09:33,398 -with the speakers on the roof. -We did. 156 00:09:33,442 --> 00:09:34,530 And everybody was listening 157 00:09:34,574 --> 00:09:35,487 -to great music. -We were, like, young. 158 00:09:35,531 --> 00:09:37,402 Early 20s. 159 00:09:37,446 --> 00:09:42,712 But your sense of adventure was magnetic and also paved the way. 160 00:09:42,756 --> 00:09:44,366 Yeah. 161 00:09:44,409 --> 00:09:46,020 Like, when you're like, "I'm going to Barbados 162 00:09:46,063 --> 00:09:48,718 with a backpack." You know, to go live on the beach. 163 00:09:48,762 --> 00:09:50,633 And then when you're like "I'm off to India." 164 00:09:50,677 --> 00:09:53,636 It basically said to me that that's a possibility. 165 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:55,551 -[Dina] Yeah. -I know it was important to you 166 00:09:55,595 --> 00:09:58,336 that both Kristy and I knew 167 00:09:58,380 --> 00:10:00,338 -there was a world outside of... -[Dina] But yes, and-- 168 00:10:00,382 --> 00:10:02,732 ...that suburban block that we lived on. 169 00:10:02,776 --> 00:10:05,082 [Dina] Definitely. You try and do the best you can, you know? 170 00:10:05,126 --> 00:10:06,431 I don't know. 171 00:10:06,475 --> 00:10:08,216 Remember in hockey we had 172 00:10:08,259 --> 00:10:09,870 the lead puck and everything, remember? 173 00:10:09,913 --> 00:10:11,567 And the 50 shots before dinner. 174 00:10:11,611 --> 00:10:13,003 And all that stuff, it was great. 175 00:10:13,047 --> 00:10:14,570 I loved playing hockey 176 00:10:14,614 --> 00:10:16,180 because it was fun to be good at something, 177 00:10:16,224 --> 00:10:17,573 and I loved playing hockey because it was with dad. 178 00:10:17,617 --> 00:10:19,096 And I wanted to do stuff with dad. 179 00:10:19,140 --> 00:10:21,185 -[Dina] Yes. -But no matter how good I got, 180 00:10:21,229 --> 00:10:23,013 like, it wasn't enough. 181 00:10:23,057 --> 00:10:24,362 -It was, like, never enough. -[Dina] That's true. 182 00:10:24,406 --> 00:10:26,147 In the meantime, I was playing music. 183 00:10:26,190 --> 00:10:27,278 -Yeah. -And-- 184 00:10:27,322 --> 00:10:29,454 -Happy. -Oh, man. 185 00:10:29,498 --> 00:10:34,242 Every bit of, like, anger and frustration 186 00:10:34,285 --> 00:10:36,157 and joy was coming out in music. 187 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,682 You never stopped drumming. 188 00:10:39,726 --> 00:10:44,208 You drummed all the time when you were two, three, four. 189 00:10:44,252 --> 00:10:45,819 It was like "du-du-du-du." 190 00:10:45,862 --> 00:10:47,821 And you used to sit behind me in the car and... 191 00:10:49,213 --> 00:10:50,737 It's like... 192 00:10:50,780 --> 00:10:53,696 Like this all day long, for long car trips. 193 00:10:53,740 --> 00:10:55,045 Like, "Trey!" 194 00:10:55,089 --> 00:10:57,221 And then remember in the fifth grade, 195 00:10:57,265 --> 00:10:58,396 you're getting kicked out of class? 196 00:10:58,440 --> 00:10:59,833 -Yes. -That was why. 197 00:10:59,876 --> 00:11:01,791 "Stop drumming, Trey!" And you couldn't. 198 00:11:01,835 --> 00:11:03,314 And I became-- 199 00:11:03,358 --> 00:11:04,707 I got kicked out of chorus for drumming. 200 00:11:04,751 --> 00:11:06,317 [Dina] You must have been born with 201 00:11:06,361 --> 00:11:08,145 just way too many notes in your brain. 202 00:11:08,189 --> 00:11:11,279 And you'll spend a lifetime never getting them all out. 203 00:11:11,975 --> 00:11:14,108 Then I looked at you up there, and I think, wow, 204 00:11:14,151 --> 00:11:17,067 "He is so happy, and how great is that?" 205 00:11:17,111 --> 00:11:19,679 It feels like everything just fell into place. 206 00:11:19,722 --> 00:11:23,944 And the result I can read on other people's faces. 207 00:11:23,987 --> 00:11:25,902 It's not just that I'm having fun. 208 00:11:25,946 --> 00:11:29,471 It's that they are, you know what I mean? Or Page is. 209 00:11:29,514 --> 00:11:31,299 I felt like that with Tom, like, in eighth grade 210 00:11:31,342 --> 00:11:32,648 when we'd, like, write a song. 211 00:11:32,692 --> 00:11:33,736 All of a sudden, we'd be like, "Oh!" 212 00:11:33,780 --> 00:11:35,085 [Dina] I thought it was great. 213 00:11:35,129 --> 00:11:36,478 -A lot of things-- -It was scary at times. 214 00:11:36,521 --> 00:11:38,262 I didn't like it at times, 215 00:11:38,306 --> 00:11:40,569 because it was scary because it was too big. 216 00:11:40,612 --> 00:11:44,138 I felt like you just were trapped in this madness, 217 00:11:44,181 --> 00:11:45,748 and you couldn't see a way out. 218 00:11:45,792 --> 00:11:48,925 I think that's why things went south, you know. 219 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:51,841 The first time you played at Madison Square Garden, 220 00:11:51,885 --> 00:11:54,061 and everybody was, like, taking pictures of the marquee, 221 00:11:54,104 --> 00:11:55,932 and oh my God, your name was up there. 222 00:11:55,976 --> 00:11:58,282 Phish was up there. This was the most exciting thing ever. 223 00:11:58,326 --> 00:12:00,023 We were so happy. 224 00:12:00,067 --> 00:12:02,852 And then to stand back and look at these people, 225 00:12:02,896 --> 00:12:04,201 all these people... 226 00:12:04,245 --> 00:12:06,247 I thought this is just too scary, 227 00:12:06,290 --> 00:12:07,770 and it's going to get bigger. 228 00:12:07,814 --> 00:12:11,600 It just scared me to death. And I was right. 229 00:12:11,643 --> 00:12:14,777 [laughing] It did get a little big there for a while. 230 00:12:18,607 --> 00:12:20,348 [guitar music] 231 00:12:24,918 --> 00:12:26,528 [Trey] When I'm in the barn, 232 00:12:26,571 --> 00:12:28,791 I feel the presence of my grandmother, 233 00:12:28,835 --> 00:12:31,707 my grandfather, the lost and the loved ones. 234 00:12:32,882 --> 00:12:35,972 They're all a part of me. 235 00:12:36,016 --> 00:12:37,800 I don't float through life alone. 236 00:12:37,844 --> 00:12:40,281 I float through life with pieces of my father, 237 00:12:40,324 --> 00:12:42,936 and pieces of my mother and friends. 238 00:12:44,546 --> 00:12:46,113 You know, we're part of a tapestry. 239 00:12:46,156 --> 00:12:48,419 And so this album is a lot about that. 240 00:12:49,333 --> 00:12:52,684 ♪ We're all here together And the weather's fine ♪ 241 00:12:56,166 --> 00:12:59,909 ♪ Dancing in a dream Beneath the sea of stars ♪ 242 00:13:02,477 --> 00:13:06,046 ♪ The lights are crashing And the waves are splashing ♪ 243 00:13:08,875 --> 00:13:11,834 ♪ Dancing in a dream Beneath the sea of stars ♪ 244 00:13:11,878 --> 00:13:12,879 A minor. 245 00:13:16,404 --> 00:13:18,885 [Trey] Fish and Tony were two of the first people I met 246 00:13:18,928 --> 00:13:20,234 when I came to Burlington 247 00:13:20,277 --> 00:13:21,801 and two of the most important 248 00:13:21,844 --> 00:13:23,237 musical collaborators in my life, 249 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,630 and they've never played together. 250 00:13:25,674 --> 00:13:28,285 I thought this project would be a great chance 251 00:13:28,329 --> 00:13:30,810 to start it off with the three of us. 252 00:13:33,769 --> 00:13:35,162 Build it from there. 253 00:13:48,044 --> 00:13:49,219 That's great. 254 00:13:51,439 --> 00:13:54,007 When you make records, you clean up all the edges, 255 00:13:54,050 --> 00:13:56,487 for, like, presentation. Put, like, a click track on this, 256 00:13:56,531 --> 00:13:58,185 to make it straighter. 257 00:13:59,708 --> 00:14:01,014 I don't want to do that anymore. 258 00:14:02,319 --> 00:14:04,017 I want to be organic and alive 259 00:14:04,060 --> 00:14:06,367 and in the moment, and, like, in the now. 260 00:14:11,024 --> 00:14:12,286 [calming music] 261 00:14:29,129 --> 00:14:30,739 Hello? 262 00:14:32,132 --> 00:14:34,569 It's become a tradition that Phish plays 263 00:14:34,612 --> 00:14:38,442 every New Year's Eve at Madison Square Garden, and at midnight, 264 00:14:38,486 --> 00:14:41,706 we do a thing that we call "the gag theatrical event." 265 00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:44,709 And this year, I have a really cool idea 266 00:14:44,753 --> 00:14:47,712 that I can't wait to share with the guys. 267 00:14:47,756 --> 00:14:51,194 We're going to turn Madison Square Garden into an ocean, 268 00:14:51,238 --> 00:14:53,588 and the stage is gonna become a pirate ship 269 00:14:53,631 --> 00:14:56,808 floating on top of it, carrying us along over the audience. 270 00:14:57,418 --> 00:14:58,680 It's gonna be really cool. 271 00:14:58,723 --> 00:15:00,029 -Yo! -Brother! 272 00:15:01,509 --> 00:15:03,076 [indistinct] 273 00:15:03,119 --> 00:15:04,686 [laughing] 274 00:15:04,729 --> 00:15:07,036 I got that from this guy... It's 26 inches. 275 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,952 [Trey] It's gonna contribute to my deafness is the problem. 276 00:15:09,996 --> 00:15:14,000 [Jon] That's where I keep all my, like, drum doodads. 277 00:15:14,043 --> 00:15:15,871 -Your herb. -Yeah. 278 00:15:15,915 --> 00:15:19,353 [Trey] Greatest thing you ever told me was that Tommy Lee 279 00:15:19,396 --> 00:15:21,050 really liked our Rolling Stonescover. 280 00:15:21,094 --> 00:15:23,618 [Jon laughing] Yeah, yeah. Yeah, He did. 281 00:15:23,661 --> 00:15:25,925 That was, like, the only thing he said to me. 282 00:15:25,968 --> 00:15:29,189 [laughing] "Hey, man. I really wanted to be..." 283 00:15:29,232 --> 00:15:31,365 -I was like "Thank you!" -With the caveman? 284 00:15:31,408 --> 00:15:34,455 -Yeah. I had a tutu. -The shirt off. 285 00:15:34,498 --> 00:15:37,023 [Trey] He said something like, "Yeah finally, a band." 286 00:15:37,066 --> 00:15:39,547 [Jon] That was his thing, was, like, a band on the cover, 287 00:15:39,590 --> 00:15:41,462 -like, not trying to be cool. -Not giving a fuck. 288 00:15:41,505 --> 00:15:43,594 [Trey] "You guys really aren't cool!" 289 00:15:43,638 --> 00:15:46,641 [all laughing] 290 00:15:46,684 --> 00:15:48,643 -Isn't that fucking amazing? -It was great. 291 00:15:48,686 --> 00:15:50,601 It's a miracle that we still have a career, 292 00:15:50,645 --> 00:15:54,170 after trying so hard just to sabotage it. 293 00:15:54,214 --> 00:15:57,086 [Jon] No band has worked harder shooting themselves in the foot. 294 00:15:57,130 --> 00:15:59,001 [Trey] Destroy their own career. 295 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:00,916 Yeah, that's great. 296 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,962 Alright, let's just try this. Okay. 297 00:16:03,005 --> 00:16:04,964 One, two, three... 298 00:16:06,530 --> 00:16:07,967 [upbeat music] 299 00:16:10,839 --> 00:16:11,971 That'll work! 300 00:16:13,798 --> 00:16:17,541 ♪ Well, everyone's together On the soul planet ♪ 301 00:16:17,585 --> 00:16:20,631 ♪ There's one beating heart On the soul planet ♪ 302 00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:58,017 I think that was good! I love the half thing. 303 00:16:58,669 --> 00:17:01,368 -Yeah well that's-- -That's pirates up there 304 00:17:01,411 --> 00:17:02,891 like, moving the sail 305 00:17:02,934 --> 00:17:04,110 -at that point. -Well, that's the thing. 306 00:17:04,153 --> 00:17:07,156 -It's like... [grunting] -Yeah. 307 00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:09,767 Pulling ropes and shit. 308 00:17:09,811 --> 00:17:11,856 It's like you can't get enough of that. 309 00:17:11,900 --> 00:17:13,771 [Trey] You can't... 310 00:17:13,815 --> 00:17:15,730 -You can't do too much of that. -There's never enough half. 311 00:17:15,773 --> 00:17:18,080 There's never enough halving off the beat. 312 00:17:18,124 --> 00:17:20,169 You have to put vocals on top, 'cause everybody is... 313 00:17:20,213 --> 00:17:21,910 Right, the "wind is the music" part? 314 00:17:21,953 --> 00:17:24,521 Yeah, I thought maybe I would do just 315 00:17:24,565 --> 00:17:25,827 the regular "wind is the music." 316 00:17:25,870 --> 00:17:27,611 That'd be great. 317 00:17:27,655 --> 00:17:29,961 'Cause I thought Page is doing the "wind is the music" 318 00:17:30,005 --> 00:17:32,094 was a little high. He might maybe do that. 319 00:17:32,138 --> 00:17:34,575 Or you can do the "soul planet." 320 00:17:34,618 --> 00:17:36,098 -Oh, soul planet, right, right. -...through space. 321 00:17:36,142 --> 00:17:38,231 You can kinda do whatever you wanna to do. 322 00:17:38,274 --> 00:17:41,495 ♪ Everyone's together On the soul planet ♪ 323 00:17:41,538 --> 00:17:44,802 ♪ There's one beating heart On the soul planet ♪ 324 00:17:44,846 --> 00:17:47,718 ♪ Dancing and breathing On the soul planet ♪ 325 00:17:47,762 --> 00:17:49,242 And you go, "soul planet!" 326 00:17:50,069 --> 00:17:52,071 ♪ Soul planet! 327 00:17:52,114 --> 00:17:56,858 ♪ And everyone's together And there's one big ocean ♪ 328 00:17:56,901 --> 00:18:00,209 ♪ And the ocean is love 329 00:18:00,253 --> 00:18:03,082 -♪ And everybody's reaching -[blowing] 330 00:18:09,436 --> 00:18:11,525 ♪ And we're leaning On each other ♪ 331 00:18:11,568 --> 00:18:14,267 ♪ On the soul planet 332 00:18:14,310 --> 00:18:16,704 Visually, there's a lot to it, 333 00:18:16,747 --> 00:18:19,707 but musically, it's just fucking rock, 334 00:18:19,750 --> 00:18:21,709 which is great. It's just a pocket. 335 00:18:21,752 --> 00:18:24,190 Get a good pocket going and go. 336 00:18:24,233 --> 00:18:25,930 Kinda minimal arrangement, 337 00:18:25,974 --> 00:18:27,367 -you know. It's like... -My favorite part, by far, 338 00:18:27,410 --> 00:18:29,456 is that we're passengers on the boat, 339 00:18:29,499 --> 00:18:31,153 and the wind is the music 340 00:18:31,197 --> 00:18:33,155 blowing us along over the sea of people. 341 00:18:33,199 --> 00:18:35,636 [Jon] You can definitely get behind that. I mean, it is what 342 00:18:35,679 --> 00:18:37,290 we've been doing for 34 years. 343 00:18:37,333 --> 00:18:39,292 That's what it feels like. Except when it's bad. 344 00:18:39,335 --> 00:18:40,554 -Well... -And then it feels like... 345 00:18:40,597 --> 00:18:41,859 -It feels like-- -When it's bad, 346 00:18:41,903 --> 00:18:43,557 -it's me doing it. -[laughter] 347 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:44,993 Then it feels like it's just sort of like 348 00:18:45,036 --> 00:18:46,429 the boat's taking on water. 349 00:18:46,473 --> 00:18:48,823 It's just, you know, listing, 350 00:18:48,866 --> 00:18:52,174 and everybody's panicking in their own way. 351 00:18:52,218 --> 00:18:53,523 I wanna show you this picture. 352 00:18:53,567 --> 00:18:55,046 [both laugh] 353 00:18:55,090 --> 00:18:56,396 -Who's that? -C Cott. 354 00:18:56,439 --> 00:18:58,137 -Is that C Cott? -Yeah, he's bald now. 355 00:18:58,180 --> 00:19:00,530 -Oh my God. That's awesome. -[Trey] Isn't that great? 356 00:19:00,574 --> 00:19:01,705 Looks like a badass, 357 00:19:01,749 --> 00:19:03,185 -doesn't he? -Oh, yeah. 358 00:19:03,229 --> 00:19:04,578 -[Trey] I like it. -He's always looked 359 00:19:04,621 --> 00:19:06,188 like a badass. That's a great photo. 360 00:19:06,232 --> 00:19:08,190 -[Trey] I know. -I've never seen him with-- 361 00:19:08,234 --> 00:19:11,280 [Trey] His hair was falling out from the chemo. 362 00:19:11,324 --> 00:19:13,848 Oh! He's gone through chemo? 363 00:19:13,891 --> 00:19:15,719 -Yeah, you didn't know? -I didn't know that. 364 00:19:15,763 --> 00:19:17,417 -Yeah. -Oh, Jesus. 365 00:19:17,460 --> 00:19:19,941 He's got stage four cancer, it's, like, it's bad. 366 00:19:19,984 --> 00:19:21,595 -C Cott? -You didn't know that? 367 00:19:21,638 --> 00:19:23,074 -I didn't tell you? -I didn't know that at all. 368 00:19:23,118 --> 00:19:24,685 -No. -It's so weird. 369 00:19:24,728 --> 00:19:26,469 I didn't tell anybody for, like, a long time. 370 00:19:26,513 --> 00:19:28,079 I just didn't want to talk about it, 371 00:19:28,123 --> 00:19:29,603 because it was, like, really bumming me out. 372 00:19:29,646 --> 00:19:31,387 But he did a biopsy and they found out 373 00:19:31,431 --> 00:19:35,478 he has adrenal cortical cancer, stage four. 374 00:19:37,611 --> 00:19:40,048 -[Jon] That sucks. -Like, serious cancer. 375 00:19:40,091 --> 00:19:41,789 [Jon] He might beat it. He's the kind of guy 376 00:19:41,832 --> 00:19:44,008 that if he beat it, I actually wouldn't be surprised. 377 00:19:44,052 --> 00:19:45,140 -I hope he does. -Yeah. 378 00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:46,533 He's a great guy. 379 00:19:48,535 --> 00:19:50,189 Anyway... 380 00:19:59,415 --> 00:20:00,677 [somber music] 381 00:20:06,292 --> 00:20:09,860 The first day I ever came to Burlington, I was 18 years old. 382 00:20:09,904 --> 00:20:12,298 I came to look at UVM. I went out and I saw 383 00:20:12,341 --> 00:20:14,430 Big Joe Burrell & The Unknown Blues Band. 384 00:20:14,474 --> 00:20:16,215 ♪ I'm going to rip it, rock it Really pop it ♪ 385 00:20:16,258 --> 00:20:17,825 ♪ Flip it, flop it Dance it, rock it ♪ 386 00:20:17,868 --> 00:20:21,350 ♪ Every time I hear That saxophone ♪ 387 00:20:21,394 --> 00:20:24,005 [Trey] One of the greatest, most life changing nights ever. 388 00:20:24,048 --> 00:20:25,136 ♪ Roll, roll, roll 389 00:20:25,180 --> 00:20:26,660 ♪ Bop, bop, bop 390 00:20:26,703 --> 00:20:28,618 [Trey] And Tony Markellis was his bass player, 391 00:20:28,662 --> 00:20:30,577 who's now the bass player in TAB. 392 00:20:30,620 --> 00:20:33,057 And that was, like, a big part of the reason 393 00:20:33,101 --> 00:20:34,755 I wanted to move to Burlington. 394 00:20:36,626 --> 00:20:39,847 Here's my dorm from when I was a freshman. 395 00:20:39,890 --> 00:20:41,718 Right there, there's Fish's room. 396 00:20:41,762 --> 00:20:43,590 He was a few halls down from me. 397 00:20:43,633 --> 00:20:46,288 He was a freshman, and he had his drum set in his room. 398 00:20:46,332 --> 00:20:48,247 And I went over and jammed with my amp. 399 00:20:48,290 --> 00:20:51,685 We started jamming right away. That was, like, 35 years ago. 400 00:20:53,426 --> 00:20:55,297 When we were just starting out, 401 00:20:55,341 --> 00:20:57,125 we used to play at Nectar's over there. 402 00:20:57,168 --> 00:20:59,301 This was the band's house. 403 00:20:59,345 --> 00:21:01,216 This house. This is where we lived. 404 00:21:01,782 --> 00:21:03,740 That was Fish's room, right there. 405 00:21:03,784 --> 00:21:05,307 Every day at one o'clock, 406 00:21:05,351 --> 00:21:07,004 I would have to go up there and wake him up. 407 00:21:07,048 --> 00:21:08,267 He liked to sleep. 408 00:21:09,572 --> 00:21:11,574 The Nectar's is one block there. 409 00:21:11,618 --> 00:21:14,969 So we would go over there and we'd do three sets. 410 00:21:15,012 --> 00:21:16,666 He'd say, you know, "play 'Mustang Sally,'" 411 00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:18,277 or "play a slow one." 412 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,757 And then at 7 it would kinda switch to, like, 413 00:21:20,801 --> 00:21:22,803 bar scene, and then for the late night set, 414 00:21:22,846 --> 00:21:24,544 all our friends would be there 415 00:21:24,587 --> 00:21:26,676 and it would turn into this crazy Icculus Gamehendge, 416 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,635 people screaming and all this stuff. 417 00:21:28,678 --> 00:21:30,767 Then afterwards, we would usually go out 418 00:21:30,811 --> 00:21:32,639 till two in the morning, go out to, like, the Quarry 419 00:21:32,682 --> 00:21:34,945 or go to Howard Johnson's or something like that. 420 00:21:35,685 --> 00:21:38,384 I remember walking in that door with all the sheet music 421 00:21:38,427 --> 00:21:40,211 that was "You Enjoy Myself." 422 00:21:40,255 --> 00:21:42,257 And Jeff, our first guitar player, 423 00:21:42,301 --> 00:21:44,477 would just be like, "What is this? I'm not doing this." 424 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,001 And Page being like, "I'll do it, yeah let's do it." 425 00:21:48,219 --> 00:21:49,830 In the basement, and then learning all the 426 00:21:49,873 --> 00:21:51,614 [hums notes] down there. 427 00:21:52,180 --> 00:21:55,139 It says The Hood Plant. It was the hood plant. 428 00:21:55,183 --> 00:21:56,837 That's where, you know, they packaged the milk, 429 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,186 when we were living there. 430 00:21:58,229 --> 00:22:00,710 And that's where the song came from. 431 00:22:00,754 --> 00:22:02,625 A previous owner of this small house 432 00:22:02,669 --> 00:22:05,498 was named Mr. Miner, so we used to get all his mail. 433 00:22:06,455 --> 00:22:08,457 And then we got these like... [laughing] 434 00:22:09,284 --> 00:22:12,156 You know, like, Publisher's Clearing House... 435 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,723 "Thank you, Mr. Miner." 436 00:22:13,767 --> 00:22:15,246 And we were always like, "Thank you, Mr. Miner." 437 00:22:15,290 --> 00:22:16,987 Turn around there, 438 00:22:17,031 --> 00:22:20,208 you look up on the second floor. That's where Sue lived. 439 00:22:20,251 --> 00:22:23,559 She was, like, a waitress at [unclear]. 440 00:22:23,603 --> 00:22:27,215 She lived right up there. And I lived right here. 441 00:22:29,130 --> 00:22:30,566 She was 19. 442 00:22:37,356 --> 00:22:41,185 Still together. All right, let's go. 443 00:22:48,454 --> 00:22:50,151 -Dude, man. -[Page] What's up, buddy? 444 00:22:50,194 --> 00:22:52,327 -How's Fish doing? -Fish is good. 445 00:22:53,067 --> 00:22:55,286 What a fucking distance he's gone. 446 00:22:55,330 --> 00:22:56,984 Yeah. 447 00:22:57,027 --> 00:22:58,855 -From the fucking laundry pile. -Right? [laughing] 448 00:22:58,899 --> 00:23:00,422 You remember that? 449 00:23:00,466 --> 00:23:02,032 Like in the green house, he had a laundry pile 450 00:23:02,076 --> 00:23:04,600 and two drumsticks. He didn't even have a bed. 451 00:23:04,644 --> 00:23:06,254 No, I know, he would just sleep on a laundry pile. 452 00:23:06,297 --> 00:23:07,951 He just slept on a laundry pile. 453 00:23:07,995 --> 00:23:10,214 I go up there, he's got five kids, amazing wife... 454 00:23:10,258 --> 00:23:12,129 -He's got a bed. -He's got a bed! 455 00:23:12,173 --> 00:23:13,348 [both laughing] 456 00:23:13,392 --> 00:23:14,784 He's got a bed. 457 00:23:16,307 --> 00:23:18,397 -It's like-- -Country mile. 458 00:23:21,182 --> 00:23:22,662 [Page] It's in B. 459 00:23:22,705 --> 00:23:23,924 [Trey] It's just like, put everything in B, 460 00:23:23,967 --> 00:23:25,447 'cause it's good for these. 461 00:23:25,491 --> 00:23:27,362 -[Page] Great. -I just... Putting it in B 462 00:23:27,406 --> 00:23:28,885 gets me... yeah. 463 00:23:30,147 --> 00:23:31,410 -Wait, stop for a second. -Yup. 464 00:23:31,453 --> 00:23:33,542 So it goes... 465 00:23:33,586 --> 00:23:37,285 ♪ Well everyone's together On the soul planet ♪ 466 00:23:37,328 --> 00:23:40,549 ♪ There's one beating heart On the soul planet ♪ 467 00:23:40,593 --> 00:23:43,726 ♪ Bouncing and breathing On the soul planet ♪ 468 00:23:43,770 --> 00:23:44,858 ♪ We keep on... 469 00:23:44,901 --> 00:23:46,120 Double that. 470 00:23:46,163 --> 00:23:47,861 ♪ We can keep on rolling 471 00:23:47,904 --> 00:23:49,732 [Page] Same thing. 472 00:23:49,776 --> 00:23:52,256 ♪ Spinnin' and turnin' On the soul planet ♪ 473 00:23:52,300 --> 00:23:54,389 ♪ Keep on rolling, keep on... 474 00:23:54,433 --> 00:23:56,173 -To G. -Yeah, yeah, okay. 475 00:23:56,217 --> 00:24:00,090 [wordless singing] 476 00:24:00,134 --> 00:24:02,005 ♪ And everybody's reaching 477 00:24:03,703 --> 00:24:05,269 Like that. 478 00:24:05,313 --> 00:24:06,488 -♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah -[Trey] Yeah. 479 00:24:08,316 --> 00:24:09,535 -Yeah, that's it. -Okay. 480 00:24:09,578 --> 00:24:10,927 So here's what it sounds like 481 00:24:10,971 --> 00:24:12,842 -with Fish playing that. -[Page] Okay. 482 00:24:12,886 --> 00:24:15,279 ♪ There's a slow stream of power On the soul planet ♪ 483 00:24:15,323 --> 00:24:18,500 ♪ And the power is love On the soul planet ♪ 484 00:24:18,544 --> 00:24:22,025 ♪ And the wind is music On the soul planet ♪ 485 00:24:22,069 --> 00:24:24,767 ♪ Screaming through space We're screaming through space ♪ 486 00:24:24,811 --> 00:24:27,770 ♪ And everyone's together 487 00:24:27,814 --> 00:24:30,294 ♪ And there's one big ocean 488 00:24:30,991 --> 00:24:33,210 ♪ And the ocean is love 489 00:24:34,168 --> 00:24:36,475 ♪ And everybody's reaching 490 00:24:37,606 --> 00:24:40,609 [Trey] Now comes the D. To D. 491 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:46,093 -[uplifting piano music] -[vocalizing] 492 00:24:47,398 --> 00:24:48,487 Now to G. 493 00:24:49,792 --> 00:24:52,752 ♪ And the ocean is love 494 00:24:52,795 --> 00:24:56,190 ♪ And the ocean is love 495 00:24:56,233 --> 00:24:57,800 ♪ And the music 496 00:24:58,888 --> 00:25:01,369 ♪ Wind is the music 497 00:25:02,457 --> 00:25:05,242 ♪ And the ocean is love 498 00:25:13,555 --> 00:25:15,339 I think it's an F sharp, now. 499 00:25:16,645 --> 00:25:18,734 Fish's voice sounds really good on that. 500 00:25:18,778 --> 00:25:19,822 ♪ Soul planet 501 00:25:19,866 --> 00:25:21,781 That's a good place to keep him. 502 00:25:21,824 --> 00:25:23,304 [Page] It's a good thing for him, yeah. 503 00:25:23,347 --> 00:25:25,045 [Trey] He also only has to stay on one note. 504 00:25:25,088 --> 00:25:27,613 [Page laughs] That's also good. 505 00:25:28,265 --> 00:25:30,267 -That's cool, man. That's great. -[Trey] That sounded so good. 506 00:25:30,311 --> 00:25:32,008 It's gonna be great. It's gonna be really fun. 507 00:25:32,052 --> 00:25:34,184 -That's gonna be another year. -[Trey] Another year. 508 00:25:34,228 --> 00:25:36,056 They keep coming. 509 00:25:36,099 --> 00:25:39,015 They just keep rolling. 18. It doesn't seem like 18 years 510 00:25:39,059 --> 00:25:41,757 -since Big Cypress. -Oh, my God. 511 00:25:43,019 --> 00:25:45,369 Oh, my God. That's a lot. 512 00:25:45,413 --> 00:25:47,241 At Big Cypress I had a 6-week-old daughter, 513 00:25:47,284 --> 00:25:49,330 and now I got an 18-year-old daughter. 514 00:25:49,373 --> 00:25:51,375 Here we are. We've come a long way from the little house. 515 00:25:51,419 --> 00:25:52,768 Yeah. 516 00:25:52,812 --> 00:25:54,596 In a lot of ways, I think this last year 517 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,772 has brought it back to that fun. 518 00:25:56,816 --> 00:25:58,121 I really think that 519 00:25:58,165 --> 00:25:59,645 -the fun we were having... -I agree. 520 00:25:59,688 --> 00:26:01,647 ...when we were rehearsing in the basement 521 00:26:01,690 --> 00:26:03,605 or up in Fish's room there at the little house 522 00:26:03,649 --> 00:26:06,173 and the comfortableness of walking on stage 523 00:26:06,216 --> 00:26:09,916 and having fun, and just, it felt very similar 524 00:26:09,959 --> 00:26:11,395 to walking on stage at Nectar's, 525 00:26:11,439 --> 00:26:13,310 and just having all those people there 526 00:26:13,354 --> 00:26:17,924 and, you know, loving it and just the joy of it. 527 00:26:17,967 --> 00:26:22,276 It's still there. It was hard to keep a close hold on that joy 528 00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:24,408 for all those 30 years or 35 years or whatever, 529 00:26:24,452 --> 00:26:26,672 but I really feel like it's back. 530 00:26:26,715 --> 00:26:28,587 I'm back to that spot again 531 00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:32,808 where I'm feeling that joyous about it again. It's back, baby. 532 00:26:33,504 --> 00:26:36,638 [both laughing] 533 00:26:36,682 --> 00:26:39,249 -I agree, man. I really do. -Alright, man. 534 00:26:42,078 --> 00:26:44,298 -That was great! Thank you. -See you soon. Thank you! 535 00:26:48,302 --> 00:26:50,609 When I was, like, 16, my parents were getting divorced. 536 00:26:50,652 --> 00:26:54,003 And I remember a tangible feeling of things coming apart. 537 00:26:54,047 --> 00:26:56,092 Everything was kind of falling apart. 538 00:26:56,136 --> 00:26:59,400 My sister was off to college, we were selling the house, 539 00:26:59,443 --> 00:27:03,360 and my music friends became sort of my new family. 540 00:27:03,404 --> 00:27:05,188 And they still are to this day. 541 00:27:06,407 --> 00:27:09,453 [lively rock music] 542 00:28:23,266 --> 00:28:24,528 Okay. 543 00:28:24,572 --> 00:28:27,270 [guitar music] 544 00:28:37,541 --> 00:28:38,891 Man. 545 00:28:40,806 --> 00:28:43,417 Dude, that amp sounds... [laughs] 546 00:28:43,460 --> 00:28:46,072 I can't believe how good that amp sounds. 547 00:28:49,684 --> 00:28:51,164 What's the dynamics sound like? 548 00:28:52,295 --> 00:28:53,688 [Ben] That's the dynamic, and... 549 00:28:53,732 --> 00:28:55,081 [guitar playback] 550 00:28:55,124 --> 00:28:56,865 Well, actually, it's not that different. 551 00:28:56,909 --> 00:28:58,867 Try the ribbon. 552 00:28:59,781 --> 00:29:01,435 [Ben] I've got to adjust the gain over here. 553 00:29:03,045 --> 00:29:05,047 -Ah! -[deep bass] 554 00:29:06,483 --> 00:29:08,442 Does that sound cool up there? 555 00:29:13,447 --> 00:29:14,709 Can I hear that? 556 00:29:16,667 --> 00:29:18,539 That's great, man. 557 00:29:18,582 --> 00:29:21,803 That's, like, fucking funeral shit. Hold up, one more time. 558 00:29:21,847 --> 00:29:23,065 Now move it to here. 559 00:29:23,109 --> 00:29:25,285 [wordlessly sings] 560 00:29:25,328 --> 00:29:27,591 I just really liked those bass notes alone, you know. 561 00:29:27,635 --> 00:29:29,332 [sings a low note] 562 00:29:30,725 --> 00:29:32,422 Okay, vocals time. 563 00:29:33,162 --> 00:29:37,819 ♪ What even was it That I thought would last ♪ 564 00:29:39,212 --> 00:29:40,779 ♪ Would last 565 00:29:42,476 --> 00:29:43,999 ♪ Would last 566 00:29:45,696 --> 00:29:47,307 ♪ Would last 567 00:29:49,831 --> 00:29:52,616 [piano music] 568 00:30:01,669 --> 00:30:02,757 Cool. 569 00:30:03,932 --> 00:30:05,412 That ties that bit together. 570 00:30:05,455 --> 00:30:08,894 ♪ Ghosts of the forest 571 00:30:11,635 --> 00:30:12,854 Slower, louder. 572 00:30:12,898 --> 00:30:15,857 ♪ Ghosts of the forest 573 00:30:15,901 --> 00:30:17,076 No, I hate that. 574 00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:18,468 -It's way too... -It's horrible. 575 00:30:18,512 --> 00:30:20,557 -[haunting melody] -Yeah. 576 00:30:20,601 --> 00:30:22,603 That's good. 577 00:30:22,646 --> 00:30:24,431 So that's just... It's coming up on the synth. 578 00:30:24,474 --> 00:30:25,911 Okay, okay. 579 00:30:25,954 --> 00:30:30,654 [echoing] ♪ Ghosts of the forest 580 00:30:31,699 --> 00:30:34,093 [Trey] It's like a creepy ice cream truck or something. 581 00:30:34,136 --> 00:30:37,183 Just go. Yeah. Try it again. Try it again. 582 00:30:39,228 --> 00:30:40,490 [piano music] 583 00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:50,849 -Fucking awesome, man. -It's great. 584 00:30:50,892 --> 00:30:55,331 Talking about things I've never done before? This. 585 00:30:57,464 --> 00:31:00,902 Like this kind of an album. 586 00:31:00,946 --> 00:31:03,513 Like, emotional, spacious... 587 00:31:03,557 --> 00:31:06,429 We're like the playing band. [trills notes] 588 00:31:07,517 --> 00:31:09,041 Like, the way that it's... 589 00:31:09,084 --> 00:31:10,694 I don't know, things just go where they go. 590 00:31:10,738 --> 00:31:12,566 I can't vouch for anything. 591 00:31:12,609 --> 00:31:14,568 You know, like I said, it's gonna just roll forward 592 00:31:14,611 --> 00:31:16,875 and all of a sudden one day it's gonna be like "It's done!" 593 00:31:16,918 --> 00:31:18,441 Whatever it may be. 594 00:31:18,485 --> 00:31:20,182 This might just be like a guidepost to something 595 00:31:20,226 --> 00:31:22,141 that gets played live, who fucking knows? 596 00:31:22,184 --> 00:31:23,794 I just can't tell. 597 00:31:23,838 --> 00:31:27,059 This is not what I expected, and I'm liking it. 598 00:31:28,408 --> 00:31:30,889 ♪ I know you know That you are me ♪ 599 00:31:30,932 --> 00:31:32,455 ♪ And I am you 600 00:31:32,499 --> 00:31:34,196 ♪ And we are here 601 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,329 ♪ And you're the one To take me down ♪ 602 00:31:36,372 --> 00:31:37,896 ♪ So take me down 603 00:31:37,939 --> 00:31:39,071 ♪ Take me down 604 00:31:39,114 --> 00:31:40,289 ♪ My lips 605 00:31:40,333 --> 00:31:44,163 ♪ The cool air pushes me down 606 00:31:44,206 --> 00:31:45,773 ♪ In a rush 607 00:31:45,816 --> 00:31:47,601 ♪ I turn my head 608 00:31:50,082 --> 00:31:51,474 ♪ And you know why 609 00:31:51,518 --> 00:31:52,649 ♪ That you are me 610 00:31:52,693 --> 00:31:54,129 ♪ And I am you 611 00:31:54,173 --> 00:31:56,784 ♪ And we are here 612 00:31:56,827 --> 00:31:59,526 ♪ You caught my eye And if I'm gone ♪ 613 00:31:59,569 --> 00:32:01,180 ♪ Now let it all be you 614 00:32:01,223 --> 00:32:03,051 All right, get ready, cause we're going. 615 00:32:07,099 --> 00:32:08,404 Oh, man, I remember all this. 616 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,454 It's making me a little bit, almost, like, nervous. 617 00:32:15,411 --> 00:32:16,543 Like walking. 618 00:32:19,372 --> 00:32:21,765 Like, walking into this house, 619 00:32:21,809 --> 00:32:25,160 where I haven't been in 15 years. 620 00:32:25,204 --> 00:32:27,075 It's like... 621 00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:31,297 It's where my kids grew up. Just sort of... [gasps] 622 00:32:34,996 --> 00:32:37,956 ♪ Ghosts of the forest 623 00:32:37,999 --> 00:32:41,002 I'm really feeling it now, 624 00:32:41,046 --> 00:32:42,961 the whole ghosts of the forest thing. 625 00:32:44,005 --> 00:32:47,835 'Cause I used to hang out back here a lot. 626 00:32:47,878 --> 00:32:50,272 Like, I always walked to the barn through the woods. 627 00:32:51,404 --> 00:32:52,753 I think I see it. 628 00:32:59,368 --> 00:33:02,981 I could just knock on the door and say, "Can I look inside?" 629 00:33:09,291 --> 00:33:13,252 I put that basketball hoop up. 630 00:33:18,213 --> 00:33:21,129 I feel like a creeper looking at this guy's house. 631 00:33:21,173 --> 00:33:24,132 Hello! Sorry we're walking through your woods. 632 00:33:24,176 --> 00:33:26,221 -Hi, I'm Trey. Nice to meet you. -How you doing? 633 00:33:26,265 --> 00:33:27,962 -You used to own this house. -I did. 634 00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:29,355 I didn't mean to, like, be creeping you out, 635 00:33:29,398 --> 00:33:30,747 walking through your woods. 636 00:33:30,791 --> 00:33:32,793 It's Vermont, we're pretty casual. 637 00:33:32,836 --> 00:33:34,534 -We were just like walking-- -You had a camera crew. 638 00:33:34,577 --> 00:33:36,275 You couldn't have been up to too much. 639 00:33:36,318 --> 00:33:37,537 -No. -[both laughing] 640 00:33:37,580 --> 00:33:39,539 -Hi! -Hi! 641 00:33:39,582 --> 00:33:40,888 I'm Trey. 642 00:33:40,931 --> 00:33:42,890 We met at South End Kitchen one day. 643 00:33:42,933 --> 00:33:44,631 -Yes! I remember that! -And we talked about our house-- 644 00:33:44,674 --> 00:33:46,763 -Oh, my God! We've met! -Yes. Welcome. 645 00:33:46,807 --> 00:33:49,462 -Is this freaking you out? Okay. -Not a bit. 646 00:33:49,505 --> 00:33:50,854 If this isn't freaking you out... 647 00:33:50,898 --> 00:33:52,900 -No, no, no. -Going out to get dinner. 648 00:33:52,943 --> 00:33:56,686 So great that you guys got the garden and the chickens going. 649 00:33:56,730 --> 00:33:58,601 -We're trying. -I love this house. 650 00:33:58,645 --> 00:34:00,429 I love this house. Why don't you guys come in? 651 00:34:00,473 --> 00:34:02,605 -[Trey mumbling] -C'mon, come in. 652 00:34:02,649 --> 00:34:05,565 Oh my God. [gasps] 653 00:34:05,608 --> 00:34:08,046 Thank you for letting me look at this. 654 00:34:08,089 --> 00:34:09,960 I'm taking these off. 655 00:34:10,004 --> 00:34:11,962 Hi! I used to live here. 656 00:34:12,006 --> 00:34:14,313 -[boy] You're Trey. -Yeah, I play in Phish. 657 00:34:14,356 --> 00:34:18,621 Opal, she goes to my school too and she's in my grade. 658 00:34:18,665 --> 00:34:21,276 And she told me you guys used to live here. 659 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,235 I was like, "Wow!" 660 00:34:23,713 --> 00:34:27,413 Did you guys have the room, like, upstairs? 661 00:34:27,456 --> 00:34:29,502 That was sort of like my little studio. 662 00:34:29,545 --> 00:34:32,200 -Like, I had a... -[all laughing] 663 00:34:32,244 --> 00:34:35,551 I had a soundboard in there and I used to write songs. 664 00:34:35,595 --> 00:34:37,379 Cool. 665 00:34:37,423 --> 00:34:39,642 Did you play any of the songs that you've written there? 666 00:34:39,686 --> 00:34:41,601 [Trey] Oh yeah! 667 00:34:41,644 --> 00:34:43,907 Some of the biggest Phish songs were written up in that room. 668 00:34:43,951 --> 00:34:45,822 Because that's the room with a really good vibe. 669 00:34:45,866 --> 00:34:47,085 I don't know whose room that is... 670 00:34:47,128 --> 00:34:48,477 -Mine. -...but whoever it is 671 00:34:48,521 --> 00:34:50,218 -must have a good vibe. -[Trey laughing] 672 00:34:50,262 --> 00:34:54,135 My daughter was born right here. 673 00:34:54,179 --> 00:34:56,268 [woman] That's the chair that I sit in at dinner! 674 00:34:56,311 --> 00:34:58,313 -[Trey] Right there. -[all laughing] 675 00:34:59,227 --> 00:35:00,837 Her crib was right there 676 00:35:00,881 --> 00:35:02,839 because she liked the warmth of the wood stove. 677 00:35:02,883 --> 00:35:06,452 And so I wrote a song about her, it's called Billy Breathes. 678 00:35:06,495 --> 00:35:08,367 That was her nickname, was Billy. She was so little, 679 00:35:08,410 --> 00:35:10,891 and I was, like, knocked out by the fact she was breathing. 680 00:35:10,934 --> 00:35:12,197 "Oh, my God!" 681 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:15,113 So I wrote that song up on that hill. 682 00:35:16,418 --> 00:35:19,378 ♪ Time, it seems In broken dreams ♪ 683 00:35:19,421 --> 00:35:22,816 ♪ To sleep beside the stair 684 00:35:22,859 --> 00:35:25,645 -♪ Oh -[upbeat music] 685 00:35:26,472 --> 00:35:29,214 The rest of it's all music. Rest of it's all the words. 686 00:35:29,257 --> 00:35:31,390 But then there's a lot of music in the middle, 687 00:35:31,433 --> 00:35:34,523 which is kind of, like, what Phish does. [laughing] 688 00:35:34,567 --> 00:35:38,745 -Fish crams a lot of music. -That's very cool. Fantastic. 689 00:35:38,788 --> 00:35:40,573 -You guys got the best house. -[woman] We know. 690 00:35:43,663 --> 00:35:47,014 That was so kind of you to let us in here. 691 00:35:47,057 --> 00:35:48,842 We just made our Christmas card, 692 00:35:48,885 --> 00:35:50,539 because that's the only picture that four of us are in. 693 00:35:50,583 --> 00:35:54,152 You gotta, like, just black me out. Cross me out. 694 00:35:54,195 --> 00:35:55,762 With this stalker we found 695 00:35:55,805 --> 00:35:57,764 in the middle of October walking through our woods. 696 00:35:57,807 --> 00:35:59,069 All right, we're going. 697 00:36:01,376 --> 00:36:04,205 [guitar music] 698 00:36:17,175 --> 00:36:20,395 Morning Mike, I love being at your old house. 699 00:36:20,439 --> 00:36:22,963 -How are you doing? -Good. 700 00:36:23,006 --> 00:36:25,313 Jared turned me on to this. It's five loopers, 701 00:36:25,357 --> 00:36:27,097 and one's to use with your hand. 702 00:36:27,141 --> 00:36:28,664 And you can instantly shorten them and lengthen them 703 00:36:28,708 --> 00:36:31,145 -and add effects. -It's a Kaossilator? 704 00:36:31,189 --> 00:36:34,192 It's just like a standard Boss looper. 705 00:36:35,236 --> 00:36:37,760 -Got the classic 808 too. -[Trey] What is that? 706 00:36:37,804 --> 00:36:41,503 That's... This is what, like, all the classic... 707 00:36:41,547 --> 00:36:43,201 The first hip-hop songs were all made on this. 708 00:36:43,244 --> 00:36:44,593 [Trey] Really? 709 00:36:44,637 --> 00:36:46,552 But it's old school. 710 00:36:47,944 --> 00:36:50,295 [bass music] 711 00:36:52,297 --> 00:36:53,733 What do all these knobs do? 712 00:36:59,304 --> 00:37:01,741 [techno music] 713 00:37:12,142 --> 00:37:13,927 [laughter] 714 00:37:18,845 --> 00:37:20,281 [Trey] So it goes... 715 00:37:20,325 --> 00:37:23,589 ♪ And the ocean is love 716 00:37:23,632 --> 00:37:25,852 ♪ And everybody's reaching 717 00:37:25,895 --> 00:37:27,201 Now it goes... Right there. 718 00:37:27,245 --> 00:37:29,029 It goes to the outro progression. 719 00:37:29,072 --> 00:37:30,160 Okay. 720 00:37:30,204 --> 00:37:32,380 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah 721 00:37:32,424 --> 00:37:34,121 E to G. 722 00:37:35,949 --> 00:37:38,778 When we go to F sharp, they've turned the sail. 723 00:37:38,821 --> 00:37:41,128 Like, with your bass, you're, like, turning the sail. 724 00:37:42,172 --> 00:37:43,261 -It's huge. -Okay. 725 00:37:43,304 --> 00:37:44,827 And you go... [wordless singing] 726 00:37:44,871 --> 00:37:48,135 And Fish is like... [wordless singing] 727 00:37:54,141 --> 00:37:55,273 That F sharp... 728 00:38:00,365 --> 00:38:02,889 And then the whole thing is starting to turn backwards now. 729 00:38:02,932 --> 00:38:04,282 Facing the back of the Garden. 730 00:38:04,325 --> 00:38:05,979 And the guys are pulling the ropes 731 00:38:06,022 --> 00:38:09,809 and the fans are filling the sail with wind. [laughs] 732 00:38:26,042 --> 00:38:28,915 -Done! [laughs] -Yeah, that's awesome. 733 00:38:29,872 --> 00:38:31,526 [Trey] This is where you are decluttering? 734 00:38:31,570 --> 00:38:33,354 I'm just kinda like piecing things chronologically 735 00:38:33,398 --> 00:38:35,008 and then throwing a lot out, so... 736 00:38:35,748 --> 00:38:38,446 [Trey] You're not gonna throw that out. 737 00:38:39,404 --> 00:38:41,319 Look at this, man. Look at how close we used to be. 738 00:38:41,362 --> 00:38:43,190 Yeah. 739 00:38:43,233 --> 00:38:44,887 [Trey] I see videos from this period of time occasionally. 740 00:38:44,931 --> 00:38:47,629 And me and you are so physically in sync. 741 00:38:47,673 --> 00:38:48,891 -It's like one person. -Yeah. 742 00:38:48,935 --> 00:38:50,153 And it makes me sad that you're so far away. 743 00:38:50,197 --> 00:38:51,416 The tab behind the beat. 744 00:38:51,459 --> 00:38:52,852 I'm so happy that the sound 745 00:38:52,895 --> 00:38:54,288 is so good on stage that it's okay, 746 00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:55,898 but I kinda want to walk over next to you. 747 00:38:55,942 --> 00:38:58,510 -Look at this from-- -Look at Fish! 748 00:38:58,553 --> 00:39:00,207 In a dress! 749 00:39:00,250 --> 00:39:02,427 -Speaking of New Year's... -That's at the Dude show. 750 00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:05,517 Oh, that is great. Please bring that back. 751 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,649 [Mike] At least for Halloween. It's pumpkins. 752 00:39:07,693 --> 00:39:09,085 [Trey] You look like you could be in, like, 753 00:39:09,129 --> 00:39:10,739 an amazing '80s band. 754 00:39:10,783 --> 00:39:12,480 What are you doing with all these? Can you send-- 755 00:39:12,524 --> 00:39:14,352 [Mike] I'm just putting them chronologically. 756 00:39:14,395 --> 00:39:16,963 [Trey] Are you sending them to Shapiro? 757 00:39:17,006 --> 00:39:18,530 [Mike] This is Kevin. See these here? 758 00:39:18,573 --> 00:39:20,009 -This is all Kevin here. -Throw that shit out, dude. 759 00:39:20,053 --> 00:39:21,228 [Mike] Well, some of it's just crappy. 760 00:39:21,271 --> 00:39:22,838 [Trey] Oh my God. 761 00:39:22,882 --> 00:39:25,101 -Is that the Clifford Ball? -It's one of the first one, 97. 762 00:39:25,145 --> 00:39:27,060 -Oh, Clifford Ball is 96. -[Trey] That's a great one. 763 00:39:27,103 --> 00:39:29,367 That's a great one. Look at that picture. 764 00:39:30,368 --> 00:39:31,891 [Mike] Not bad for our second festival. 765 00:39:31,934 --> 00:39:33,893 [Trey] That was not bad for our second festival. 766 00:39:35,155 --> 00:39:37,200 [cheerful music] 767 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,575 [laughing] 768 00:40:11,147 --> 00:40:14,629 Good dog! You like music, don't you? 769 00:40:15,543 --> 00:40:16,892 [cheerful music] 770 00:40:25,074 --> 00:40:27,686 [Trey] This album is a lot more personal. 771 00:40:27,729 --> 00:40:30,166 There's a lot of fear and confusion in this album. 772 00:40:30,210 --> 00:40:31,516 And sadness. 773 00:40:33,213 --> 00:40:35,476 And I'm not even close to done, and I'm already getting 774 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,173 to the point where, like, some days I put it on 775 00:40:37,217 --> 00:40:38,827 and I'm like "I hate this." 776 00:40:38,871 --> 00:40:40,525 And the next day, I'm like, "Oh, this is okay." 777 00:40:40,568 --> 00:40:45,225 I'm kind of a little bit lost at sea in that way, 778 00:40:45,268 --> 00:40:46,226 to be perfectly honest. 779 00:40:47,357 --> 00:40:49,534 I want to be alive and in the moment, 780 00:40:49,577 --> 00:40:51,579 like, in the now. You know what I mean? 781 00:40:54,539 --> 00:40:56,845 [guitar music] 782 00:41:01,241 --> 00:41:05,201 ♪ Blue morning Walking down the street ♪ 783 00:41:05,245 --> 00:41:07,769 ♪ Hear the rhythm From the soles of my feet ♪ 784 00:41:07,813 --> 00:41:11,120 ♪ On the pavement And I reach out my hands ♪ 785 00:41:11,164 --> 00:41:14,472 ♪ And touch the building That's beside me ♪ 786 00:41:15,385 --> 00:41:18,476 ♪ I look into the air Up above my head ♪ 787 00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:22,436 ♪ A thin layer of clouds And the open sky ♪ 788 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,526 ♪ All the stars Are handles on doors ♪ 789 00:41:25,570 --> 00:41:27,528 ♪ If I could touch them With my fingers ♪ 790 00:41:27,572 --> 00:41:28,921 ♪ They would open up 791 00:41:28,964 --> 00:41:30,966 ♪ The sea of love 792 00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:34,274 ♪ Ruby waves Rolling down on my head ♪ 793 00:41:36,058 --> 00:41:42,543 ♪ Ocean of love would carry me Up from this prison of lies ♪ 794 00:41:42,587 --> 00:41:46,286 ♪ If I could touch the stars With my fingertips ♪ 795 00:41:46,329 --> 00:41:49,681 ♪ The doors would open All around me ♪ 796 00:41:49,724 --> 00:41:52,901 ♪ Gonna escape From this prison of lies ♪ 797 00:41:52,945 --> 00:41:56,905 ♪ Escape from This prison of lies ♪ 798 00:41:56,949 --> 00:42:00,561 ♪ Gonna escape From this prison of lies ♪ 799 00:42:08,003 --> 00:42:10,353 Still has gone nowhere. 800 00:42:10,397 --> 00:42:11,616 [guitar music] 801 00:42:17,317 --> 00:42:19,493 That might actually be good with drums. 802 00:42:19,537 --> 00:42:20,712 [drumming music] 803 00:42:37,293 --> 00:42:38,512 [music continues] 804 00:42:53,571 --> 00:42:55,355 ♪ Prison of lies 805 00:42:55,398 --> 00:42:58,576 ♪ Gonna escape From this prison of lies ♪ 806 00:43:12,677 --> 00:43:13,765 Tony? 807 00:43:14,983 --> 00:43:16,332 That's a keeper. 808 00:43:25,951 --> 00:43:28,606 [Trey] When I was a kid, I was lucky enough that my dad 809 00:43:28,649 --> 00:43:30,738 wanted to coach me in hockey. 810 00:43:30,782 --> 00:43:33,219 At the same time, he was very intense, 811 00:43:33,262 --> 00:43:35,743 and there was a lot of pressure. 812 00:43:35,787 --> 00:43:38,877 I just wanted to please him, and there were times when I felt 813 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,183 like that was an unachievable goal. 814 00:43:44,970 --> 00:43:48,538 -Where are we going, dad? -Bent Spoon for ice cream. 815 00:43:48,582 --> 00:43:50,628 I'll take a little Bent Spoon. 816 00:43:50,671 --> 00:43:52,630 [Trey] Then I got older 817 00:43:52,673 --> 00:43:54,632 and I started to see that everything I learned from him 818 00:43:54,675 --> 00:43:58,331 taught me how to live. I mean, he taught me to see a goal 819 00:43:58,374 --> 00:44:00,420 and achieve it step by step. 820 00:44:00,463 --> 00:44:03,553 He taught me to be in a team, which is what being a band is. 821 00:44:04,685 --> 00:44:06,992 And I'm so grateful to him for that now. 822 00:44:07,601 --> 00:44:10,560 You know, I hope I was a good dad to my kids. 823 00:44:10,604 --> 00:44:12,562 [Ernie] And we'll park here. Perfect. 824 00:44:13,259 --> 00:44:14,652 I'll take care of the meter. 825 00:44:14,695 --> 00:44:16,741 You do not want to get a parking ticket. 826 00:44:16,784 --> 00:44:17,959 They are $45. 827 00:44:18,438 --> 00:44:19,961 [man in background] Welcome home, Trey. 828 00:44:20,005 --> 00:44:22,660 [Trey] Hey, how's it going? Nice to see ya. 829 00:44:23,269 --> 00:44:27,012 -This happens all the time. -Hi, nice to see you. 830 00:44:27,055 --> 00:44:29,318 Oh Jesus, this is fucking insane. 831 00:44:29,362 --> 00:44:30,885 Hi Sammy, I'm Trey. Nice to meet you. 832 00:44:31,843 --> 00:44:34,672 [Ernie] This happens all the time. 833 00:44:34,715 --> 00:44:36,238 -[Trey] Thank you so much. -Thank you. 834 00:44:36,282 --> 00:44:38,023 -Have a good time. -Have a nice day. 835 00:44:38,066 --> 00:44:39,851 -Nice to meet you. -Bye, nice to meet you too. 836 00:44:40,634 --> 00:44:42,636 [Ernie] Mmm. 837 00:44:43,245 --> 00:44:44,594 Mm. Good. 838 00:44:45,291 --> 00:44:49,077 The one thing that I really wanted for you 839 00:44:49,121 --> 00:44:50,644 was a bachelor's degree, 840 00:44:50,688 --> 00:44:53,995 because I thought if Phish didn't work out, 841 00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:55,693 the bachelor's degree would give you 842 00:44:55,736 --> 00:44:57,172 more flexibility as a musician. 843 00:44:57,216 --> 00:44:58,608 You could teach if you chose to. 844 00:44:58,652 --> 00:44:59,740 Right. 845 00:45:01,046 --> 00:45:06,051 What I didn't want was for you to be restricted 846 00:45:06,094 --> 00:45:08,401 by not having a degree. Of course, it all turned out 847 00:45:08,444 --> 00:45:10,098 to be moot, because who cares now? 848 00:45:10,142 --> 00:45:11,839 Right, right. 849 00:45:11,883 --> 00:45:15,190 But back in the Kenny's Castaways days. 850 00:45:15,234 --> 00:45:18,280 I wasn't certain it was gonna work out. 851 00:45:18,324 --> 00:45:21,675 If you thought any differently, you would be insane. 852 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,546 Yeah, of course. 853 00:45:23,590 --> 00:45:27,028 The night where I really became aware of the phenomenon... 854 00:45:27,072 --> 00:45:29,683 -Yeah. -...was The Paradise in Boston. 855 00:45:29,727 --> 00:45:31,816 -Right. -When we showed up there 856 00:45:31,859 --> 00:45:35,558 and the street was blocked off, and there were 5,000 kids 857 00:45:35,602 --> 00:45:39,171 in the street trying to get in an 800 capacity club. 858 00:45:39,214 --> 00:45:41,042 That night, it was clear 859 00:45:41,086 --> 00:45:43,784 that you actually were building something... 860 00:45:43,828 --> 00:45:45,699 Right, right. 861 00:45:45,743 --> 00:45:48,267 ...that had legs. 862 00:45:48,310 --> 00:45:53,576 Now. Did I ever think you could be at MSG 54 times? No. 863 00:45:53,620 --> 00:45:55,491 You know, everything turned out great. 864 00:45:55,535 --> 00:46:00,192 -There were challenges. -What were the challenges? 865 00:46:00,235 --> 00:46:02,194 I'm trying to think of questions. 866 00:46:03,848 --> 00:46:07,852 There was one major challenge. Your health. 867 00:46:07,895 --> 00:46:09,157 Which you dealt with. 868 00:46:09,201 --> 00:46:11,333 Right, right. 869 00:46:11,377 --> 00:46:14,467 After the arrest, 870 00:46:15,642 --> 00:46:18,427 the drug court and all that other kind of stuff, 871 00:46:18,471 --> 00:46:20,690 it turned out exactly as it should have. 872 00:46:22,736 --> 00:46:24,782 Let me borrow one of your napkins. 873 00:46:26,174 --> 00:46:27,567 I remember-- 874 00:46:27,610 --> 00:46:30,831 I'm talking about more, like, the Taft era. 875 00:46:32,311 --> 00:46:33,660 And then, you know, like, I came home, 876 00:46:33,703 --> 00:46:35,183 we were living in the condo 877 00:46:35,227 --> 00:46:37,098 and I had people in the basement... 878 00:46:37,142 --> 00:46:38,839 I remember that. 879 00:46:39,622 --> 00:46:42,843 I have fond memories of those six months when 880 00:46:42,887 --> 00:46:44,453 -we were living in the condo. -Right. I do too. 881 00:46:44,497 --> 00:46:46,281 We didn't have any big conflicts. 882 00:46:46,325 --> 00:46:48,849 No, actually, no. I don't remember it that way at all. 883 00:46:48,893 --> 00:46:50,546 I actually have nice memories about that. 884 00:46:50,590 --> 00:46:53,636 We used to have four Brown 'N Serve sausages, 885 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,029 a slice of American cheese 886 00:46:55,073 --> 00:46:56,074 and an English muffin for breakfast. 887 00:46:56,117 --> 00:46:57,902 And then for dinner we had 888 00:46:57,945 --> 00:47:01,906 four Hebrew National hot dogs, a slice of American cheese 889 00:47:01,949 --> 00:47:03,516 and an English muffin. 890 00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:06,345 I have great memories of that. I loved that. 891 00:47:06,388 --> 00:47:08,390 And we had iceberg lettuce salads 892 00:47:08,434 --> 00:47:10,392 with Good Seasons dressing. 893 00:47:10,436 --> 00:47:12,699 He's right. There were no women around to tell us not to do it. 894 00:47:12,742 --> 00:47:14,875 There were no women, no. 895 00:47:15,484 --> 00:47:18,618 [Ernie] Some of the fondest memories I have from then 896 00:47:18,661 --> 00:47:21,577 it's the night we watched The Day Afteron TV, 897 00:47:21,621 --> 00:47:24,580 you went downstairs and started to compose "Divided Sky." 898 00:47:24,624 --> 00:47:27,627 I have very vivid memories of all that, 899 00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:33,763 and it's one of my favorite things you do today. 900 00:47:33,807 --> 00:47:35,940 I was proud of you before anybody knew 901 00:47:35,983 --> 00:47:37,724 who you were other than me. 902 00:47:39,987 --> 00:47:41,075 Truly. 903 00:47:42,729 --> 00:47:44,078 Very proud of you 904 00:47:46,254 --> 00:47:47,777 and all you've done. 905 00:47:48,822 --> 00:47:52,086 As a father and a citizen, I'm as proud of you 906 00:47:52,130 --> 00:47:55,481 for that kind of thing as I am for you as a musician, 907 00:47:55,524 --> 00:47:58,049 for being a good father, a husband 908 00:47:58,092 --> 00:48:00,094 and all those kinds of things. 909 00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:06,187 You are the best role model, I have to say. 910 00:48:07,362 --> 00:48:09,930 The hardest thing in my relationship with grandpa 911 00:48:09,974 --> 00:48:14,587 was my failure to learn how to communicate 912 00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:18,808 with him when I was younger in ways that reflected 913 00:48:18,852 --> 00:48:21,855 what my real needs were or my problems were. 914 00:48:21,899 --> 00:48:24,684 I didn't know how to do it. I didn't have the mechanism 915 00:48:24,727 --> 00:48:27,905 of vocabulary, or experience or insight. 916 00:48:27,948 --> 00:48:30,908 [Trey] Do you feel like he put lot of pressure on you? 917 00:48:30,951 --> 00:48:33,649 -A busload of pressure on you. -Yeah, in the same way 918 00:48:33,693 --> 00:48:35,477 I put pressure on you. 919 00:48:35,521 --> 00:48:41,135 I would find ways to rationalize it or defend it, 920 00:48:41,179 --> 00:48:43,224 account for it, but yeah. 921 00:48:46,532 --> 00:48:50,101 You know, when you think about the rigorous practices-- 922 00:48:50,144 --> 00:48:51,972 Well, I mean... Go ahead. 923 00:48:52,016 --> 00:48:56,672 I put a lot of pressure that was probably 924 00:48:56,716 --> 00:49:01,199 motivated in the right way, but executed in the wrong way. 925 00:49:01,242 --> 00:49:05,072 Never putting myself in your shoes. 926 00:49:05,116 --> 00:49:08,119 Because if I had for a minute, I might have understood 927 00:49:08,162 --> 00:49:11,209 that I was communicating in a more harsh way 928 00:49:11,252 --> 00:49:12,732 or more demanding way 929 00:49:12,775 --> 00:49:14,690 or a more deliberate way than was necessary. 930 00:49:14,734 --> 00:49:16,431 Right. 931 00:49:16,475 --> 00:49:21,219 So today, 77 years old, I would behave in different ways 932 00:49:21,262 --> 00:49:24,048 than I did when I was 23 years old. 933 00:49:24,091 --> 00:49:26,006 Right. 934 00:49:26,050 --> 00:49:28,574 I don't beat myself up about it so much that I'm depressed, 935 00:49:28,617 --> 00:49:30,489 but I think about it. 936 00:49:33,318 --> 00:49:34,710 [uplifting music] 937 00:49:44,894 --> 00:49:46,374 [Sue] Citified by then. 938 00:49:46,418 --> 00:49:49,029 You're too cool for school. 939 00:49:49,073 --> 00:49:51,075 [Trey] Do you remember how fun it was 940 00:49:51,118 --> 00:49:54,034 taking our daughters on tour every summer? 941 00:49:54,078 --> 00:49:55,993 -[Sue] It was the best. -Wasn't that incredible? 942 00:49:56,036 --> 00:49:58,038 It was my favorite family times. 943 00:49:58,082 --> 00:50:00,432 On the bus, five or six weeks, at least, 944 00:50:00,475 --> 00:50:02,347 across the country and back. 945 00:50:02,390 --> 00:50:06,090 And it was amazing. Locked in a bus, you know, at that age. 946 00:50:06,133 --> 00:50:08,875 -[Trey] Yes. -[Sue] It was very special. 947 00:50:11,269 --> 00:50:12,792 And then remember the Star Trek? 948 00:50:12,835 --> 00:50:15,490 We had Star Trekrunning all the time, 949 00:50:15,534 --> 00:50:17,318 so whenever you got on the bus, 950 00:50:17,362 --> 00:50:19,016 -it sounded like the Enterprise. -Oh, yeah. We had the DVD series 951 00:50:19,059 --> 00:50:20,756 "Do you guys watch Star Trek every night?" 952 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,497 -[beeping] -Every tour had it's own... 953 00:50:22,541 --> 00:50:24,630 -There was a Star Trektour. -That was great. 954 00:50:24,673 --> 00:50:26,414 There was a Lord of the Ringstour, 955 00:50:26,458 --> 00:50:28,025 -the Doctor Whotour. -I loved that. 956 00:50:29,591 --> 00:50:31,245 From the get-go, we started dating. 957 00:50:31,289 --> 00:50:32,812 -Like the first time you had-- -[Trey] I remember that. 958 00:50:32,855 --> 00:50:34,727 After our first date, we went to Nectar's 959 00:50:34,770 --> 00:50:37,817 and the next day, I had to do, like, a six-day Southern tour. 960 00:50:37,860 --> 00:50:39,210 [Sue] Right. 961 00:50:39,253 --> 00:50:41,255 [Trey] I don't remember any blowback 962 00:50:41,299 --> 00:50:42,430 from you ever about that. 963 00:50:42,474 --> 00:50:43,997 [Sue] No. 964 00:50:44,041 --> 00:50:46,347 [Trey] Probably almost like the opposite. 965 00:50:46,391 --> 00:50:48,088 Were you were kinda like, "Go, go, have a good time." 966 00:50:48,132 --> 00:50:50,308 -You've been home a while. -Yeah, no, I-- 967 00:50:50,351 --> 00:50:51,744 Something to do. 968 00:50:51,787 --> 00:50:53,137 Yeah. "Don't you have something to do?" 969 00:50:55,661 --> 00:50:58,490 "Don't you have some tour to go on?" 970 00:51:00,883 --> 00:51:03,495 Lily's been having fun, for the most part. 971 00:51:03,538 --> 00:51:06,237 A couple moments. [laughs] So fun. 972 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,848 A couple not fun moments. 973 00:51:08,891 --> 00:51:10,458 No fun due. 974 00:51:10,502 --> 00:51:14,549 You know, you were using, 975 00:51:14,593 --> 00:51:17,030 and I was drinking a lot. It was it was all part 976 00:51:17,074 --> 00:51:20,686 of the social anxiety. It was my way too of managing 977 00:51:20,729 --> 00:51:22,209 that whole craziness. 978 00:51:22,253 --> 00:51:24,342 So when all that went away, it was just... 979 00:51:26,083 --> 00:51:27,301 You know? 980 00:51:27,345 --> 00:51:29,042 Yeah. 981 00:51:29,086 --> 00:51:31,697 I don't know what... You would have died, I think. 982 00:51:31,740 --> 00:51:33,960 I thought you were going to die the night got arrested. 983 00:51:34,003 --> 00:51:35,527 That's what I thought when the phone rang 984 00:51:35,570 --> 00:51:37,616 at 4 in the morning, "Well, this is it." 985 00:51:38,486 --> 00:51:40,880 Very fortunate, very grateful. 986 00:51:43,274 --> 00:51:44,362 You know? 987 00:51:44,405 --> 00:51:45,580 Yeah. 988 00:51:48,409 --> 00:51:54,285 [Trey] Did you ever regret marrying me? 989 00:51:54,328 --> 00:51:55,416 No. 990 00:51:57,766 --> 00:52:01,509 No. No, really! 991 00:52:03,555 --> 00:52:06,166 [Trey] In my mind, like, everything had like gone... 992 00:52:06,210 --> 00:52:07,559 -[growls harshly] -[Sue] Yeah. 993 00:52:07,602 --> 00:52:09,038 [Trey] It was sort of like, you know, 994 00:52:09,082 --> 00:52:11,519 like I had failed and I messed up. 995 00:52:11,563 --> 00:52:13,130 -That's how I felt. -Yeah. 996 00:52:13,173 --> 00:52:15,567 Kinda always felt you kind of figured that out. 997 00:52:15,610 --> 00:52:18,439 I knew you did. That's why I knew you wouldn't leave. 998 00:52:18,483 --> 00:52:19,745 [laughing] 999 00:52:24,532 --> 00:52:26,186 I never thought you would, anyway. 1000 00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:28,188 I didn't want to leave, that's for sure. 1001 00:52:28,232 --> 00:52:29,363 Nope. 1002 00:52:29,407 --> 00:52:30,973 No way. I'm not going anywhere. 1003 00:52:31,017 --> 00:52:33,933 -You're stuck with me. -I know. You're too lazy. 1004 00:52:35,152 --> 00:52:36,588 [Trey] I'm too lazy. 1005 00:52:38,067 --> 00:52:41,070 [both laughing] 1006 00:52:41,114 --> 00:52:43,595 [Sue] You're too lazy to go anywhere. 1007 00:52:48,121 --> 00:52:49,209 [soothing music] 1008 00:53:08,663 --> 00:53:10,709 [belting notes] 1009 00:53:16,541 --> 00:53:18,456 [saxophone music] 1010 00:53:18,499 --> 00:53:19,674 [man] Vegan flan. 1011 00:53:21,285 --> 00:53:24,331 [woman] Martian eggs and non-organic unicorn milk... 1012 00:53:28,596 --> 00:53:30,903 [Trey] Chris is like a funny guy. 1013 00:53:30,946 --> 00:53:33,035 'Cause he's like a hard partying, 1014 00:53:33,079 --> 00:53:34,820 gruff mountain man. 1015 00:53:37,388 --> 00:53:40,086 But inside, he has, like, the biggest heart 1016 00:53:40,129 --> 00:53:41,870 of anybody I've ever met. 1017 00:53:43,307 --> 00:53:45,178 He called me up, he said, "I just went to the doctor. 1018 00:53:45,222 --> 00:53:48,137 They said I had stage four adrenal carcinoid cancer." 1019 00:53:48,660 --> 00:53:52,141 It's like a 4% survival rate. 1020 00:53:52,185 --> 00:53:54,840 And you know, my sister died of cancer. 1021 00:53:56,058 --> 00:53:59,105 You can't think of the 96, you got to think of the four. 1022 00:53:59,148 --> 00:54:00,541 Four people survived. 1023 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,330 -[Trey] We met when we were 15. -[Chris] We were 15 at Taft. 1024 00:54:08,114 --> 00:54:11,509 You loved fucking Led Zeppelin. 1025 00:54:12,336 --> 00:54:15,034 [laughter] 1026 00:54:15,077 --> 00:54:16,905 I was way into the Dead. 1027 00:54:16,949 --> 00:54:19,995 I had a fucking big stereo, too. My stereo was bigger than yours. 1028 00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:21,954 Your speakers were bigger than mine. 1029 00:54:21,997 --> 00:54:24,391 -So I win. -[both laughing] 1030 00:54:24,435 --> 00:54:26,045 Remember Copenhagen? 1031 00:54:27,002 --> 00:54:28,700 -Remember? -Right! 1032 00:54:28,743 --> 00:54:31,659 -Did we take a ferry though? -That was a part of it. 1033 00:54:31,703 --> 00:54:34,009 -Playing hockey. -'Cause we were like skating 1034 00:54:34,053 --> 00:54:35,446 down the hall. 1035 00:54:35,489 --> 00:54:38,275 Out on the deck of the ferry. 1036 00:54:38,318 --> 00:54:40,015 [whooshing] 1037 00:54:40,059 --> 00:54:42,104 Sock skating around in the dark. 1038 00:54:42,148 --> 00:54:44,324 There was this torrential storm. 1039 00:54:44,368 --> 00:54:48,850 And finally we got to Amsterdam at, like, seven in the morning. 1040 00:54:48,894 --> 00:54:54,334 He takes two hits of acid out of his pocket. And he goes... 1041 00:54:54,378 --> 00:54:56,597 I said, "If you are a true friend of mine, 1042 00:54:56,641 --> 00:54:59,426 you're not gonna let me do this by my myself." 1043 00:54:59,470 --> 00:55:01,994 As they were sitting on my tongue. 1044 00:55:02,037 --> 00:55:04,779 It was, like, seven in the morning. I had a day off 1045 00:55:04,823 --> 00:55:07,695 and I had to play two shows. And I had been up all night. 1046 00:55:07,739 --> 00:55:09,088 I was like "Ah!" 1047 00:55:10,394 --> 00:55:14,572 -I was like, "Okay." -"All right, fine." 1048 00:55:14,615 --> 00:55:16,835 So then he gave me two hits of acid. 1049 00:55:16,878 --> 00:55:18,837 So then the next thing you know, 1050 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,927 we're, like, walking around Amsterdam 1051 00:55:21,970 --> 00:55:26,801 for, like, a million years. We rented bicycles. 1052 00:55:27,541 --> 00:55:28,412 [Trey] Oh, yeah. 1053 00:55:32,198 --> 00:55:34,505 There is eons of stories. 1054 00:55:35,288 --> 00:55:36,463 Just... 1055 00:55:37,899 --> 00:55:40,902 I don't know where to begin or where to end. 1056 00:55:44,689 --> 00:55:45,907 You guys want a dose? 1057 00:55:46,952 --> 00:55:48,606 [laughter] 1058 00:55:48,649 --> 00:55:50,999 Chris has a... Do you want to tell them 1059 00:55:51,043 --> 00:55:54,263 about the port where you put liquid acid in? 1060 00:55:54,307 --> 00:55:55,961 He has a port here. 1061 00:55:56,004 --> 00:55:57,310 Fresh edition. 1062 00:55:59,443 --> 00:56:01,401 -Right there. -That's it. 1063 00:56:01,445 --> 00:56:06,145 [Chris] That's the magic port for putting... 1064 00:56:07,886 --> 00:56:09,714 [laughter] 1065 00:56:11,368 --> 00:56:12,934 It's way more effective that way. 1066 00:56:12,978 --> 00:56:15,459 Right into the main line. The liquid... 1067 00:56:16,851 --> 00:56:18,853 And to think, we spent all those years putting the liquid 1068 00:56:18,897 --> 00:56:20,551 in our eyeballs. 1069 00:56:20,594 --> 00:56:22,422 -[Chris] Nothing compared-- -Tomorrow we're going 1070 00:56:22,466 --> 00:56:24,729 to the hospital so I can get a port. 1071 00:56:24,772 --> 00:56:26,774 -'Cause I can't keep up. -[Chris laughing] 1072 00:56:27,340 --> 00:56:28,689 [somber music] 1073 00:56:38,395 --> 00:56:39,439 [rock music] 1074 00:56:55,237 --> 00:56:56,500 [crowd clapping] 1075 00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:03,420 God bless you, Bruce. Have a beautiful journey. 1076 00:57:03,463 --> 00:57:06,640 Thank you so much. We all love Bruce Hampton. 1077 00:57:08,337 --> 00:57:09,426 Thank you. 1078 00:57:14,126 --> 00:57:15,257 [crowd cheering] 1079 00:58:34,946 --> 00:58:38,079 [mellow guitar music] 1080 00:59:39,271 --> 00:59:44,493 ♪ And why do we have to wait 1081 00:59:45,886 --> 00:59:48,410 ♪ Until it's gone 1082 00:59:49,455 --> 00:59:52,850 ♪ To know what love is 1083 00:59:57,768 --> 00:59:59,117 [guitar music] 1084 01:00:23,315 --> 01:00:25,012 I thought that worked pretty good. 1085 01:00:25,056 --> 01:00:26,753 This was good too, yesterday. 1086 01:00:26,797 --> 01:00:30,061 That was good. That was so cool! 1087 01:00:30,104 --> 01:00:31,932 I loved that. We should do this again. 1088 01:00:31,976 --> 01:00:33,934 The more you get to know it, the better it's going to get. 1089 01:00:35,806 --> 01:00:37,764 [Trey] Miles Davis famously said, 1090 01:00:37,808 --> 01:00:41,507 "The hardest thing in music is sounding like yourself." 1091 01:00:41,550 --> 01:00:43,509 That's what I want this to be. 1092 01:00:43,552 --> 01:00:45,685 I mean, I'll sing it better and I'll get the words more better. 1093 01:00:45,729 --> 01:00:50,168 I just think it's cool. The thing is I love it so much. 1094 01:00:50,211 --> 01:00:53,084 I love the process. I love writing music. 1095 01:00:53,127 --> 01:00:55,608 I love being in the barn so much. 1096 01:00:56,261 --> 01:00:58,132 Who gets to do this? 1097 01:00:58,176 --> 01:01:00,004 [rock music] 1098 01:01:03,790 --> 01:01:07,968 ♪ We move Through stormy weather ♪ 1099 01:01:09,753 --> 01:01:13,844 ♪ We know that our days Are few ♪ 1100 01:01:15,933 --> 01:01:19,980 ♪ We dream and we struggle Together ♪ 1101 01:01:22,069 --> 01:01:25,943 ♪ And love will carry us Through ♪ 1102 01:01:28,336 --> 01:01:32,079 ♪ And love will carry us Through ♪ 1103 01:02:02,196 --> 01:02:04,546 [laughing] 1104 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,725 -[Jon] It had its moments. -[Trey] Fucking shit, man. 1105 01:02:08,768 --> 01:02:10,161 [Jon] That was pretty good. 1106 01:02:10,204 --> 01:02:12,119 [Trey] That second song is amazing. 1107 01:02:12,163 --> 01:02:14,339 [Jon] That's a great song. I love that song. 1108 01:02:14,382 --> 01:02:17,472 That whole thing is like, what a ride. 1109 01:02:17,516 --> 01:02:18,909 That's fucking great, man. 1110 01:02:18,952 --> 01:02:21,215 It just kept getting better and better. 1111 01:02:21,259 --> 01:02:23,348 Just like, "What the fuck?" 1112 01:02:26,351 --> 01:02:28,919 -[Eliza] It's good. -[Trey laughing] 1113 01:02:30,747 --> 01:02:33,271 Like, when you and Isabella are joking 1114 01:02:33,314 --> 01:02:37,188 about, you know, like, not knowing where I am. 1115 01:02:37,231 --> 01:02:38,798 Do you remember feeling like that? 1116 01:02:38,842 --> 01:02:40,321 I kinda remember feeling like that. 1117 01:02:40,365 --> 01:02:41,932 Remember, Isabella used to, like, scream, 1118 01:02:41,975 --> 01:02:44,499 -and, like, grab your leg? -She did? Oh, God. 1119 01:02:44,543 --> 01:02:46,110 -You don't remember that? -I do. 1120 01:02:46,153 --> 01:02:47,807 Oh, my God. It was a big whoop-dee-do. 1121 01:02:47,851 --> 01:02:49,548 She would hold on to you so you couldn't get out the door. 1122 01:02:49,591 --> 01:02:50,679 And would scream and scream. 1123 01:02:52,246 --> 01:02:54,553 I always remember, like, she was the little sister 1124 01:02:54,596 --> 01:02:57,469 and I was the big sister. So I didn't cry. 1125 01:02:57,512 --> 01:02:59,993 -"Get over it, Isabella." -Really? 1126 01:03:00,037 --> 01:03:02,169 -Little sister. -But it was harder for her? 1127 01:03:02,213 --> 01:03:04,041 I think so. 1128 01:03:04,084 --> 01:03:07,566 I guess my memories are kind of mom-centric, of that time. 1129 01:03:07,609 --> 01:03:10,351 -I was off rocking. -You were off rocking. 1130 01:03:11,962 --> 01:03:13,615 Don't think I missed anything important. 1131 01:03:13,659 --> 01:03:14,834 [Eliza scoffs] 1132 01:03:15,661 --> 01:03:18,577 Well, daily stuff. 1133 01:03:24,801 --> 01:03:28,021 There was probably a positive to it in terms of mom and I... 1134 01:03:28,587 --> 01:03:30,197 I think... 1135 01:03:30,241 --> 01:03:32,809 This sounds weird, but it's not. She likes the space. 1136 01:03:32,852 --> 01:03:35,246 And I think you do, too, and your grandmother does. 1137 01:03:35,289 --> 01:03:37,552 -Yeah. -You like your time alone. 1138 01:03:37,596 --> 01:03:38,902 [Eliza] I really liked my childhood. 1139 01:03:38,945 --> 01:03:41,600 I actually, like, I feel really lucky 1140 01:03:41,643 --> 01:03:43,210 about the way I was raised. 1141 01:03:43,254 --> 01:03:45,125 The creative energy was kinda amazing. 1142 01:03:45,169 --> 01:03:46,779 It was like you would write musicals 1143 01:03:46,823 --> 01:03:48,128 for us to perform in 1144 01:03:48,172 --> 01:03:50,565 for the family and it was so cool. 1145 01:03:50,609 --> 01:03:53,090 And you used to dress up in a costume. 1146 01:03:53,133 --> 01:03:54,874 [laughing] 1147 01:03:54,918 --> 01:03:59,792 -Remember the sleeping fairy? -Oh, yeah. [laughing] 1148 01:03:59,836 --> 01:04:02,708 -We gutted the TV. -Yeah. Oh, my God. 1149 01:04:02,751 --> 01:04:04,449 -Yeah. -Oh, my God. 1150 01:04:04,492 --> 01:04:06,016 -I almost died. -I know. 1151 01:04:08,018 --> 01:04:11,021 [Eliza] You wanted to turn the television into a diorama 1152 01:04:11,064 --> 01:04:12,761 because we didn't wanna watch TV anymore. 1153 01:04:12,805 --> 01:04:16,591 -Right. That was great. -That was so cool. 1154 01:04:16,635 --> 01:04:19,116 So we're gonna go into our house here. 1155 01:04:20,465 --> 01:04:22,510 [Trey laughing] 1156 01:04:23,685 --> 01:04:26,166 -[Eliza] What is it really? -House of Fluff. 1157 01:04:26,210 --> 01:04:27,733 [Eliza] House of Fluffhead. 1158 01:04:27,776 --> 01:04:30,562 [Trey] How's it going? Nice to meet you. 1159 01:04:30,605 --> 01:04:32,869 It's a trip running into you right now, I'm 8 days clean. 1160 01:04:32,912 --> 01:04:35,915 -Oh, are you really? -Yeah. 1161 01:04:35,959 --> 01:04:39,049 Fucking congratulations man. That's great. 1162 01:04:39,092 --> 01:04:40,746 Hey, Dave. How you doing? 1163 01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:43,531 Just threw out all my syringes and empty packets. 1164 01:04:43,575 --> 01:04:45,533 -Oh, my God. Fucking A, man. -[sobbing] 1165 01:04:46,839 --> 01:04:48,275 -You okay? -Yeah. 1166 01:04:48,319 --> 01:04:50,060 It's just a fucking emotional day, man. 1167 01:04:50,103 --> 01:04:51,322 -Yeah. -Yeah. 1168 01:04:52,192 --> 01:04:53,759 -Congratulations. -Thank you, man. 1169 01:04:53,802 --> 01:04:55,935 -I'm so happy that you stopped. -Thank you, man. 1170 01:04:55,979 --> 01:04:57,415 -Keep going, man. -Thanks, man. 1171 01:04:57,458 --> 01:04:59,721 -I don't want these guys... -Yeah, for sure. 1172 01:04:59,765 --> 01:05:01,723 -Are they still...? -I'll see you around. 1173 01:05:01,767 --> 01:05:02,942 I'm sorry about this. 1174 01:05:02,986 --> 01:05:04,509 -It's this thing. -It's okay. 1175 01:05:04,552 --> 01:05:05,466 -Congratulations, man. -I'll see you on tour. 1176 01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:07,686 Keep going, that's great. 1177 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,784 This is the coolest thing. 1178 01:05:18,827 --> 01:05:20,612 [Eliza] I was just looking at that, what is that? 1179 01:05:20,655 --> 01:05:22,266 This is my big secret. 1180 01:05:22,309 --> 01:05:23,920 I can't believe I'm giving away all my secrets. 1181 01:05:24,703 --> 01:05:26,487 [guitar music] 1182 01:05:26,531 --> 01:05:29,360 [Trey] It's gonna be like that. It's like a texture. 1183 01:05:29,403 --> 01:05:30,535 [Eliza] Yeah. 1184 01:05:32,015 --> 01:05:34,974 -You keep playing melodies. -Can I push a button? 1185 01:05:35,018 --> 01:05:36,933 [distorted note] 1186 01:05:36,976 --> 01:05:38,935 -[Trey] You hear that? -Yeah. 1187 01:05:43,504 --> 01:05:44,810 What's "puss"? 1188 01:05:44,853 --> 01:05:46,333 [Trey] Tap, tap. 1189 01:05:47,378 --> 01:05:50,294 -Now it's like... -[echoing note] 1190 01:05:50,337 --> 01:05:51,469 Whoa. 1191 01:05:53,558 --> 01:05:57,823 Now this is a Leslie speaker. This is so cool. 1192 01:05:58,650 --> 01:06:00,260 -[tranquil music] -Whoa. 1193 01:06:10,009 --> 01:06:11,619 Whoa. 1194 01:06:12,446 --> 01:06:13,708 Fast. 1195 01:06:13,752 --> 01:06:15,493 [echoing, distorted note] 1196 01:06:15,536 --> 01:06:16,581 [Eliza] Oh! 1197 01:06:19,758 --> 01:06:23,588 That's my job. That's dad at work. 1198 01:06:23,631 --> 01:06:24,719 [laughing] 1199 01:06:24,763 --> 01:06:25,982 [Eliza] Okay, I'm gonna leave. 1200 01:06:27,026 --> 01:06:29,289 -I love you so much. -[Trey] I love you. 1201 01:06:30,682 --> 01:06:33,728 ♪ The trumpet call is sounding 1202 01:06:33,772 --> 01:06:36,383 ♪ The trees are bending low 1203 01:06:36,427 --> 01:06:39,256 ♪ There's a great fire In the distance ♪ 1204 01:06:39,299 --> 01:06:42,085 ♪ There must be Something more than this ♪ 1205 01:06:42,128 --> 01:06:44,783 ♪ And our shadows Will all be dancing ♪ 1206 01:06:44,826 --> 01:06:47,438 ♪ With red dust on our clothes 1207 01:06:47,481 --> 01:06:50,223 ♪ When we leave that tornado 1208 01:06:50,267 --> 01:06:53,618 ♪ Elbows in the clouds And feet in the sky ♪ 1209 01:06:53,661 --> 01:06:56,664 ♪ And we're vibrating With love and light ♪ 1210 01:06:56,708 --> 01:06:59,319 ♪ Pulsating with love And light ♪ 1211 01:06:59,363 --> 01:07:02,366 ♪ In a world gone mad A world gone mad ♪ 1212 01:07:02,409 --> 01:07:05,804 ♪ There must be Something more than this ♪ 1213 01:07:05,847 --> 01:07:07,371 [rock music] 1214 01:07:13,464 --> 01:07:15,770 [Trey] We just finished The Baker's Dozen, 1215 01:07:15,814 --> 01:07:17,729 and we didn't know when we walked on stage that at the end 1216 01:07:17,772 --> 01:07:19,905 that they were going to raise a banner. 1217 01:07:21,124 --> 01:07:24,779 My dad used to take me to hockey games when I was 10 years old. 1218 01:07:24,823 --> 01:07:26,912 I used to dream of having my name up 1219 01:07:26,955 --> 01:07:30,437 in the rafters of Madison Square Garden as a hockey player. 1220 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:33,571 I never would have thought 1221 01:07:33,614 --> 01:07:35,181 that it would be up there as a musician. 1222 01:07:36,269 --> 01:07:38,358 That's pretty cool. 1223 01:07:38,402 --> 01:07:40,447 ♪ There must be Something more than this ♪ 1224 01:07:40,491 --> 01:07:43,929 ♪ We're vibrating With love and light ♪ 1225 01:07:43,972 --> 01:07:46,584 ♪ Pulsating With love and light ♪ 1226 01:07:46,627 --> 01:07:49,804 ♪ In a world gone mad A world gone mad ♪ 1227 01:07:49,848 --> 01:07:53,330 ♪ There must be something more 1228 01:08:16,962 --> 01:08:21,053 ♪ Love is what we are 1229 01:08:22,794 --> 01:08:25,101 ♪ Not something we make 1230 01:08:26,145 --> 01:08:29,453 ♪ No one can give it to us 1231 01:08:29,496 --> 01:08:33,109 ♪ No one can take it away 1232 01:08:34,327 --> 01:08:37,156 ♪ We don't fall in it 1233 01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,419 ♪ We don't get high on it 1234 01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,163 ♪ We all hope to find it 1235 01:08:44,207 --> 01:08:47,949 ♪ But we don't have to Look too far ♪ 1236 01:08:47,993 --> 01:08:49,908 [Trey] This is where you learned how to swim. 1237 01:08:49,951 --> 01:08:53,694 ♪ 'Cause love is what we are 1238 01:08:53,738 --> 01:08:55,131 God, I love it here. 1239 01:08:57,916 --> 01:09:01,137 I remember when you were, like, 14, like, [unclear] was hard. 1240 01:09:02,312 --> 01:09:04,140 I had you out on tour a couple times. 1241 01:09:04,183 --> 01:09:06,142 Like, it was just me and you on the bus. 1242 01:09:06,185 --> 01:09:07,795 We were going around. 1243 01:09:07,839 --> 01:09:09,493 -[Bella] I was 12. -[Trey] Yeah, you were like... 1244 01:09:09,536 --> 01:09:10,885 [Bella] I was going through my edgy 12 year old... 1245 01:09:10,929 --> 01:09:12,235 Yeah, you were an edgy 12 year old. 1246 01:09:12,278 --> 01:09:13,932 You had, like cool, black clothes. 1247 01:09:13,975 --> 01:09:15,673 I thought you were the coolest person I'd ever met in my life. 1248 01:09:15,716 --> 01:09:17,805 I loved the way you dressed and stuff. 1249 01:09:17,849 --> 01:09:20,330 But you were into, like, your thing, and it wasn't that. 1250 01:09:20,373 --> 01:09:22,201 [Bella] It wasn't that, Phish, yeah. 1251 01:09:22,245 --> 01:09:24,334 And the crowd was, like, going "Yeah!" 1252 01:09:24,377 --> 01:09:26,988 And I was walking down the stairs this one night, 1253 01:09:27,032 --> 01:09:29,077 and you were at the bottom, it was just me and you, 1254 01:09:29,121 --> 01:09:31,210 I was having dad-daughter rock tour. 1255 01:09:31,254 --> 01:09:33,125 I was so excited that you were on the road with me. 1256 01:09:33,169 --> 01:09:34,474 We were both on the bus. 1257 01:09:34,518 --> 01:09:37,390 And you were like, "I'm so bored!" 1258 01:09:37,434 --> 01:09:40,611 And then you go, "You just entertained all those people, 1259 01:09:40,654 --> 01:09:42,221 now entertain me!" 1260 01:09:42,265 --> 01:09:45,703 I was kind of dejectedly walking behind you. 1261 01:09:45,746 --> 01:09:48,227 And they were still cheering, but I was thinking 1262 01:09:48,271 --> 01:09:52,971 this is such a metaphor for, like, parenting teenage girls. 1263 01:09:53,014 --> 01:09:56,496 [Bella] It wasn't really weird until just these past few years 1264 01:09:56,540 --> 01:09:58,977 when I started going on Phish tour. 1265 01:09:59,020 --> 01:10:01,719 -Right, right, right. -And now I'm like on Phish tour. 1266 01:10:01,762 --> 01:10:03,677 -Right. -And like, most of my friends 1267 01:10:03,721 --> 01:10:05,592 outside of Burlington 1268 01:10:05,636 --> 01:10:07,333 are friends that I made through the scene. 1269 01:10:07,377 --> 01:10:09,074 -[Trey chokes] Yeah. -[Bella laughing] 1270 01:10:11,511 --> 01:10:13,034 [Trey] I just breathed in a bug. 1271 01:10:15,298 --> 01:10:17,125 -It's really gross. -[laughing] 1272 01:10:19,345 --> 01:10:22,827 Is there anything you wished would have been different? 1273 01:10:23,349 --> 01:10:26,004 I had a very happy childhood. 1274 01:10:26,483 --> 01:10:30,313 I was always happy with you and mom. 1275 01:10:31,314 --> 01:10:33,359 Like, generally all the things I, like, think about 1276 01:10:33,403 --> 01:10:34,882 that I would have changed 1277 01:10:34,926 --> 01:10:37,015 were, like, my shit, you know. 1278 01:10:38,799 --> 01:10:40,975 And like, I guess, yeah, you and mom definitely 1279 01:10:41,019 --> 01:10:46,938 weren't amply prepared to deal with me. 1280 01:10:46,981 --> 01:10:49,114 It was very clear, like, when I started 1281 01:10:49,157 --> 01:10:50,550 dealing with issues and stuff, 1282 01:10:50,594 --> 01:10:52,509 that you guys didn't know what to do. 1283 01:10:52,552 --> 01:10:54,206 -Right. -You were, like, 1284 01:10:54,250 --> 01:10:57,818 "Oh, God," freaking out. And it worked out, you know. 1285 01:10:58,863 --> 01:11:00,647 So it's all fine. But, like... 1286 01:11:02,214 --> 01:11:04,042 Defiantly in the moment I was, like, 1287 01:11:04,085 --> 01:11:05,435 I was freaking out, because I felt like 1288 01:11:05,478 --> 01:11:07,175 I was freaking you guys out. 1289 01:11:07,219 --> 01:11:08,829 Ah. 1290 01:11:08,873 --> 01:11:12,311 I was like, you know, you guys clearly seemed... 1291 01:11:12,355 --> 01:11:15,662 I think you can't help, that, like, as a parent, thinking, 1292 01:11:15,706 --> 01:11:17,882 "You know, is it my fault?" 1293 01:11:17,925 --> 01:11:20,928 Or is there things that, like, you know, 1294 01:11:20,972 --> 01:11:22,887 -"What could I do differently?" -Yeah. 1295 01:11:22,930 --> 01:11:24,802 Maybe the thing was I was very, very aware 1296 01:11:24,845 --> 01:11:26,499 of you guys thinking that. 1297 01:11:26,543 --> 01:11:30,111 And I was like, it just so... hindered you 1298 01:11:30,155 --> 01:11:33,114 from being able to objectively help me the best that you could 1299 01:11:33,158 --> 01:11:37,684 because you were distracted, 1300 01:11:37,728 --> 01:11:42,689 I guess, by, like, worrying about being a good dad. 1301 01:11:42,733 --> 01:11:44,212 Right, yeah. 1302 01:11:44,256 --> 01:11:45,779 So, like... 1303 01:11:45,823 --> 01:11:47,303 which, like, wasn't the problem. 1304 01:11:47,346 --> 01:11:48,478 Right, right, right. 1305 01:11:49,827 --> 01:11:51,350 That seems like a big responsibility, though, 1306 01:11:51,394 --> 01:11:52,656 for you in that moment 1307 01:11:52,699 --> 01:11:55,093 -to be worried about us. -Yeah. 1308 01:11:55,136 --> 01:11:57,400 You know what I mean? That doesn't seem fair. 1309 01:11:57,443 --> 01:11:59,097 Like, you had a lot to think about 1310 01:11:59,140 --> 01:12:01,534 other than worrying about us. 1311 01:12:01,578 --> 01:12:02,753 We were okay. 1312 01:12:02,796 --> 01:12:04,058 [laughing] 1313 01:12:08,236 --> 01:12:11,457 Man, look at this place. Wow. 1314 01:12:12,545 --> 01:12:14,242 I wanna go swimming. 1315 01:12:17,985 --> 01:12:20,379 ♪ It's such a beautiful world 1316 01:12:22,425 --> 01:12:23,991 ♪ And such a brief time 1317 01:12:32,435 --> 01:12:37,178 ♪ It's such a brief time We get to be here ♪ 1318 01:12:37,222 --> 01:12:41,226 ♪ All together As friends they come and go ♪ 1319 01:12:41,269 --> 01:12:45,578 ♪ We stand in streams of water And circle round the sun ♪ 1320 01:12:45,622 --> 01:12:48,102 ♪ Until our time is done 1321 01:12:50,191 --> 01:12:52,542 ♪ Until our time is done 1322 01:12:57,895 --> 01:12:59,810 [Trey] It's when your kids become adults, 1323 01:12:59,853 --> 01:13:02,421 and you see them becoming adults, 1324 01:13:02,465 --> 01:13:05,032 I started thinking, "Was I a good father?" 1325 01:13:05,076 --> 01:13:06,860 "Was I there for them?" 1326 01:13:08,427 --> 01:13:11,474 I certainly understand my own parents more. 1327 01:13:11,517 --> 01:13:13,693 Bella is a senior in college, 1328 01:13:13,737 --> 01:13:16,348 and Eliza's graduated and working. 1329 01:13:16,392 --> 01:13:18,916 And it reminds me that that's the age I was 1330 01:13:18,959 --> 01:13:20,526 when Phish started. 1331 01:13:22,310 --> 01:13:24,530 I think about my perception of my parents at that time 1332 01:13:24,574 --> 01:13:26,619 and my feeling of wanting to break away, 1333 01:13:26,663 --> 01:13:28,404 and "I'm going to be in a band. 1334 01:13:28,447 --> 01:13:30,014 And we're gonna to travel all over the world 1335 01:13:30,057 --> 01:13:33,931 and get out from this." Whatever it was. 1336 01:13:33,974 --> 01:13:36,890 Today, I feel exactly the opposite. 1337 01:13:36,934 --> 01:13:40,285 I feel how fleeting certain things are 1338 01:13:40,328 --> 01:13:42,635 and how precious they are. 1339 01:13:46,204 --> 01:13:50,426 ♪ It's such a beautiful world 1340 01:13:50,469 --> 01:13:52,428 ♪ And such a brief time 1341 01:13:55,518 --> 01:13:56,867 Let's eat food. 1342 01:14:02,046 --> 01:14:05,658 I think the first New Year's we played was the Boston expo. 1343 01:14:05,702 --> 01:14:07,312 It wasn't much of a gag at all. 1344 01:14:07,355 --> 01:14:08,661 -It wasn't theatrical. -It really wasn't a gag at all. 1345 01:14:08,705 --> 01:14:10,446 We all wore tuxedos 1346 01:14:10,489 --> 01:14:13,840 and Fish wore the G-string that was a tuxedo. 1347 01:14:16,452 --> 01:14:18,541 [Page] New Year's 94 was the hot dog. 1348 01:14:18,584 --> 01:14:20,368 Then we did a series of four runs 1349 01:14:20,412 --> 01:14:23,241 with a fish tank created on stage. 1350 01:14:23,284 --> 01:14:24,677 The next year was the time machine, 1351 01:14:24,721 --> 01:14:27,506 which was we did a good gag with a guy 1352 01:14:27,550 --> 01:14:29,160 that looked like Fish, in the diaper. 1353 01:14:29,203 --> 01:14:32,685 [Trey] Then, one of my favorites that gets forgotten, 1354 01:14:32,729 --> 01:14:36,341 is that we did the angels on ladders. 1355 01:14:36,384 --> 01:14:38,517 -[Page] The snow queens. -[Trey] On Seven Below. 1356 01:14:38,561 --> 01:14:40,476 [Page] And we had the snow falling. 1357 01:14:40,519 --> 01:14:43,870 [Trey] The snow was falling and we had beautiful angel women. 1358 01:14:43,914 --> 01:14:45,481 [Page] I thought "Petrichor" was-- 1359 01:14:45,524 --> 01:14:47,308 [Mike] "Petrichor" was so cool. 1360 01:14:47,352 --> 01:14:49,441 [Page] There have been some good ones. 1361 01:14:51,051 --> 01:14:55,447 -Fish look what you've started. -Some funny stuff. 1362 01:14:55,491 --> 01:14:57,188 Somewhere along the line, 1363 01:14:57,231 --> 01:14:59,277 it just exploded into people, you know, the whole... 1364 01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:00,974 Fucking crazy, man. 1365 01:15:01,018 --> 01:15:02,541 [Page] It became iconic. 1366 01:15:02,585 --> 01:15:05,588 [Jon] I just put it on as a joke and Tina said, 1367 01:15:05,631 --> 01:15:08,329 "You gotta wear that on stage, you look like Barney Rubble." 1368 01:15:08,373 --> 01:15:11,028 So I did. I wore it for one gig at Nectar's. 1369 01:15:11,071 --> 01:15:12,725 I wore it for one gig at Nectar' 1370 01:15:12,769 --> 01:15:14,640 And the next day I came back in my street clothes and Trey goes, 1371 01:15:14,684 --> 01:15:17,425 "Where's the dress?" And I go, "What do you mean?" 1372 01:15:17,469 --> 01:15:19,036 He goes, "You can't not wear the dress now, 1373 01:15:19,079 --> 01:15:21,821 it'll rot the gig." I continued to wear it 1374 01:15:21,865 --> 01:15:23,431 for the next 35 years. 1375 01:15:23,475 --> 01:15:25,390 -That's it. That was it. -There was another time 1376 01:15:25,433 --> 01:15:26,783 -you stopped wearing it. -Well, it was.. 1377 01:15:26,826 --> 01:15:28,393 I gave you a hard time about it too, I remember. 1378 01:15:28,436 --> 01:15:30,308 It made me so sad. 1379 01:15:30,351 --> 01:15:31,657 You took it off, you started wearing-- 1380 01:15:31,701 --> 01:15:32,745 I started wearing a three piece suit. 1381 01:15:32,789 --> 01:15:34,486 During that period of time, 1382 01:15:34,530 --> 01:15:37,228 I kinda became a little... I was sullen, melancholy. 1383 01:15:37,271 --> 01:15:39,186 -Sullencholy? -Sullen... 1384 01:15:39,230 --> 01:15:42,102 -Sullen melancholy! -[laughing] 1385 01:15:42,886 --> 01:15:44,975 [Mike] You were Jon Sullen Melancholy. 1386 01:15:45,018 --> 01:15:47,194 [laughing] 1387 01:15:51,329 --> 01:15:54,245 -I could introduce you that way. -Jon Sullen Melancholy. 1388 01:15:54,288 --> 01:15:57,422 [laughing] Jon Sullen Melancholy. 1389 01:16:00,077 --> 01:16:02,601 ♪ I started a joke 1390 01:16:06,083 --> 01:16:08,825 You could give me a fake piano and I could play. 1391 01:16:10,609 --> 01:16:12,568 ♪ Alone again 1392 01:16:16,659 --> 01:16:19,052 Jon Sullen Melancholy. 1393 01:16:20,314 --> 01:16:23,883 [indistinct crosstalk] 1394 01:16:33,676 --> 01:16:35,112 It's a good balance right now. 1395 01:16:35,155 --> 01:16:37,897 Like, everybody has the right amount of band 1396 01:16:37,941 --> 01:16:40,857 and the right amount of space to exist 1397 01:16:40,900 --> 01:16:42,554 outside of the world of the band. 1398 01:16:42,598 --> 01:16:44,034 That was kind of a problem 1399 01:16:44,077 --> 01:16:47,777 before we stopped in 2004, 1400 01:16:47,820 --> 01:16:49,953 which is when I got kinda mixed up 1401 01:16:49,996 --> 01:16:52,172 in, like, my personal problems. 1402 01:16:52,216 --> 01:16:54,784 Like, exploded to drinking too much 1403 01:16:54,827 --> 01:16:56,481 and that kind of thing. 1404 01:16:58,222 --> 01:17:01,965 And then, like, I ended up, you know, 1405 01:17:02,008 --> 01:17:03,967 finally, like, getting arrested. 1406 01:17:05,664 --> 01:17:10,103 Which was, strangely, was kind of a good thing. 1407 01:17:10,147 --> 01:17:11,757 [laughs] 1408 01:17:11,801 --> 01:17:14,499 Because, like, finally, this, like, crazy thing 1409 01:17:14,542 --> 01:17:17,415 that had been rolling along so insanely, stopped. 1410 01:17:17,458 --> 01:17:21,288 Everything just stopped, and I didn't talk to anybody. 1411 01:17:21,332 --> 01:17:23,029 And then, like, about a year after that, 1412 01:17:23,073 --> 01:17:24,857 the three guys came and visited me, 1413 01:17:24,901 --> 01:17:26,816 which was, like... 1414 01:17:26,859 --> 01:17:28,034 I remember that. 1415 01:17:29,601 --> 01:17:31,472 You know, like, I wasn't allowed to leave, 1416 01:17:31,516 --> 01:17:33,561 I was, like, sort of under house arrest. 1417 01:17:35,825 --> 01:17:38,392 And they came and took me out to dinner. 1418 01:17:38,871 --> 01:17:40,786 That was really nice. 1419 01:17:44,137 --> 01:17:46,879 And then we started kind of, like, firing back up 1420 01:17:46,923 --> 01:17:48,881 and we just rebuilt, like, our life 1421 01:17:48,925 --> 01:17:52,319 from that point on in, like, a much healthier way. 1422 01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,500 ♪ Sitting on the floor 1423 01:17:59,544 --> 01:18:00,676 [blues music] 1424 01:18:02,939 --> 01:18:06,507 ♪ Thinking, breathing 1425 01:18:08,858 --> 01:18:10,294 ♪ Burning 1426 01:18:12,644 --> 01:18:14,080 ♪ Burning 1427 01:18:16,996 --> 01:18:18,258 ♪ I'm about to run 1428 01:18:20,043 --> 01:18:21,435 [blues music] 1429 01:18:26,919 --> 01:18:29,226 [Trey] I think probably the difference in this album is 1430 01:18:29,269 --> 01:18:34,361 that there's a lot of moments of real, raw honesty. 1431 01:18:35,101 --> 01:18:37,277 It's like a blues album, you know? 1432 01:18:37,321 --> 01:18:38,931 Because a lot of the songs that I'm writing 1433 01:18:38,975 --> 01:18:42,674 are full of, like, confusion and, like, fear, 1434 01:18:42,718 --> 01:18:45,851 and, like, that's the thing that I hear most on this record. 1435 01:18:45,895 --> 01:18:49,681 And that's kind of what I actually feel most of the time. 1436 01:18:52,684 --> 01:18:55,556 It's fear. There's an underlying fear. 1437 01:19:08,308 --> 01:19:10,658 ♪ I'm about to run 1438 01:19:14,010 --> 01:19:16,839 ♪ I'm about to run 1439 01:20:19,815 --> 01:20:21,425 [background chatter] 1440 01:20:22,513 --> 01:20:23,688 [Trey] Hi. 1441 01:20:26,430 --> 01:20:27,561 Yes, indeed. 1442 01:20:27,605 --> 01:20:29,476 I needed to jump up and down. 1443 01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,478 So thank you so very much. 1444 01:20:31,522 --> 01:20:33,002 [Trey] Your dad... 1445 01:20:33,045 --> 01:20:34,873 It's so good to see you. There's so much of him in you. 1446 01:20:34,917 --> 01:20:36,440 -It's so good to see you. -[Trey] It warms my heart. 1447 01:20:36,483 --> 01:20:37,789 That's what I've been telling people, 1448 01:20:37,833 --> 01:20:39,356 like, that's the best compliment. 1449 01:20:39,399 --> 01:20:42,533 [Trey] He was my favorite person ever. I loved him. 1450 01:20:42,576 --> 01:20:45,623 You didn't go one day in your entire life being with him 1451 01:20:45,666 --> 01:20:46,972 that you didn't laugh at least once. 1452 01:20:47,016 --> 01:20:48,495 -I know. -[woman] You were never bored. 1453 01:20:48,539 --> 01:20:50,236 And the day he was dying he was still doing that. 1454 01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,717 He would kind of go to sleep, he'd just taken morphine, 1455 01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:54,284 -and we all started crying. -Yeah. 1456 01:20:54,327 --> 01:20:56,677 [Trey] And he woke up and he goes, 1457 01:20:56,721 --> 01:20:58,462 "What, did someone die or something?" 1458 01:20:58,505 --> 01:21:01,465 -[all laughing] -Like, there's a dad for you. 1459 01:21:01,508 --> 01:21:03,597 [woman] I was like, "Oh my God." 1460 01:21:03,641 --> 01:21:05,948 [stutters] He was a professional partier. 1461 01:21:05,991 --> 01:21:08,646 Many times throughout our friendship where I'm like, 1462 01:21:08,689 --> 01:21:10,126 "I just want to go to bed, dude." 1463 01:21:10,169 --> 01:21:11,736 You know what I'm trying to say? 1464 01:21:11,779 --> 01:21:14,913 But it never happened. I coulda gone to bed. 1465 01:21:14,957 --> 01:21:17,350 Okay? You see what I'm trying to say? 1466 01:21:17,394 --> 01:21:21,441 But then I'm thinking, I'm like, I'm getting older now. 1467 01:21:21,485 --> 01:21:23,356 Like, the amount of fun that we had... 1468 01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:24,967 -[woman] Like [unclear] said. -We would, like, 1469 01:21:25,010 --> 01:21:26,446 get up in the morning, we'd, like, 1470 01:21:26,490 --> 01:21:27,883 "Okay, let's climb to the top of, you know, 1471 01:21:27,926 --> 01:21:28,971 that Crested Butte mountain," 1472 01:21:29,014 --> 01:21:31,234 like, in our sneakers. Like... 1473 01:21:32,278 --> 01:21:35,151 All right? "Come on, man, let's go." And we'd go. 1474 01:21:35,716 --> 01:21:37,936 I'm never gonna have a friend like that ever again. 1475 01:21:40,678 --> 01:21:43,115 ♪ You're smiling at me 1476 01:21:44,073 --> 01:21:47,163 ♪ From your picture frame 1477 01:21:47,206 --> 01:21:49,078 ♪ And I miss you 1478 01:21:49,121 --> 01:21:50,731 [blues music] 1479 01:21:53,734 --> 01:21:57,086 ♪ My life keeps on changing 1480 01:21:57,129 --> 01:22:00,567 ♪ But you stay the same 1481 01:22:00,611 --> 01:22:02,308 ♪ I miss you 1482 01:22:02,352 --> 01:22:04,049 [blues music] 1483 01:22:07,009 --> 01:22:09,446 ♪ You're everywhere 1484 01:22:13,058 --> 01:22:16,540 ♪ You're everywhere 1485 01:22:19,717 --> 01:22:22,938 ♪ You're everywhere 1486 01:22:37,865 --> 01:22:39,606 That's me in the '60s, man. 1487 01:22:39,650 --> 01:22:42,653 [laughs] It was wild. It was some wild days. 1488 01:22:42,696 --> 01:22:45,134 And then this is the girl I had a crush on. 1489 01:22:45,177 --> 01:22:47,527 That was in New Jersey. 1490 01:22:47,571 --> 01:22:49,268 I definitely remember having a crush on her, 1491 01:22:49,312 --> 01:22:50,748 but I don't remember her name. 1492 01:22:52,402 --> 01:22:56,493 we used to play Tetris on the bus in the back lounge. 1493 01:22:56,536 --> 01:22:59,844 We used to play so much Tetris that I would dream about it. 1494 01:22:59,887 --> 01:23:01,411 I was always seeing 1495 01:23:01,454 --> 01:23:03,674 Tetris blocks falling in front of my face. 1496 01:23:03,717 --> 01:23:07,330 That was a fun tour. I think it was 94. 1497 01:23:07,373 --> 01:23:09,071 I can't remember. 1498 01:23:10,376 --> 01:23:14,206 It's crazy, man. It gets crazier the longer this all goes on. 1499 01:23:15,512 --> 01:23:17,862 Just wanted to give everybody a full orientation 1500 01:23:17,905 --> 01:23:19,864 about what was going to happen. Hey, guys. 1501 01:23:19,907 --> 01:23:22,258 House lights will go out, you guys will go up 1502 01:23:22,301 --> 01:23:24,434 and start to play "Soul Planet." 1503 01:23:24,477 --> 01:23:27,002 Right, as you start to play, the truss above is going 1504 01:23:27,045 --> 01:23:30,005 to slowly descend right over your heads, super slow. 1505 01:23:30,048 --> 01:23:31,310 Guys in the red jumpsuits 1506 01:23:31,354 --> 01:23:32,572 and a couple of stage hands come out, 1507 01:23:32,616 --> 01:23:34,400 and they're going to very carefully 1508 01:23:34,444 --> 01:23:36,707 distribute those wires and take up the slack. 1509 01:23:36,750 --> 01:23:39,057 They're going to drop the sail, we're going to turn on the fans 1510 01:23:39,101 --> 01:23:41,190 and attach it at the sides, Where our cast members 1511 01:23:41,233 --> 01:23:42,974 on the front are going to turn it around 1512 01:23:43,018 --> 01:23:46,369 while we have men on either side suspended as they spin. 1513 01:23:46,412 --> 01:23:50,112 Then, the 10, 9, 8, it's all that. The timing. 1514 01:23:50,155 --> 01:23:52,070 The cannons are going to go off, 1515 01:23:52,114 --> 01:23:54,594 the ceiling explodes and you'll go into "Auld Lang Syne." 1516 01:23:54,638 --> 01:23:57,554 -We'll do something sunrise-y. -Okay, okay cool. 1517 01:23:57,597 --> 01:23:59,338 "Velvet Sea," or... I don't know. 1518 01:23:59,382 --> 01:24:00,905 Okay. 1519 01:24:00,948 --> 01:24:02,124 -Did you have any other...? -[singing softly] 1520 01:24:02,646 --> 01:24:03,690 Alright, ready? Go. 1521 01:24:03,734 --> 01:24:04,865 Take the stage. 1522 01:24:04,909 --> 01:24:05,953 [woman over speaker] Follow you. 1523 01:24:05,997 --> 01:24:06,911 Hope you guys have fun up there. 1524 01:24:06,954 --> 01:24:08,782 My Mom? Let me say hi. 1525 01:24:09,435 --> 01:24:10,697 -Hello! -Hi! 1526 01:24:16,703 --> 01:24:19,576 I can't tell them apart, who's who. 1527 01:24:19,619 --> 01:24:20,881 [girl] We have the same hat! 1528 01:24:20,925 --> 01:24:23,928 -[woman] Hi, Trey. -Happy New Year! 1529 01:24:26,496 --> 01:24:28,063 The intimidating thing is 1530 01:24:28,106 --> 01:24:30,935 these suede sneakers take 20 minutes to put on. 1531 01:24:30,978 --> 01:24:32,241 They are too tight. 1532 01:24:34,025 --> 01:24:35,418 You wanna go see Page? 1533 01:24:35,461 --> 01:24:37,768 This is for Delia's teacher, I'm sorry. 1534 01:24:37,811 --> 01:24:39,117 That's okay. 1535 01:24:39,161 --> 01:24:40,814 -If you don't mind. -Sure. 1536 01:24:40,858 --> 01:24:42,251 -It's a good poster. -It's a great poster. 1537 01:24:42,294 --> 01:24:43,643 Who did this? 1538 01:24:43,687 --> 01:24:45,384 I don't know. It looks like [unclear]. 1539 01:24:45,428 --> 01:24:46,733 -You mind about here? -Yeah, anywhere. That's great. 1540 01:24:48,387 --> 01:24:49,649 Great. Thank you. 1541 01:24:49,693 --> 01:24:50,998 -Colby? -Colby, it's the teacher. 1542 01:24:51,042 --> 01:24:52,478 Colby must be a good teacher. 1543 01:24:52,522 --> 01:24:54,219 -Would you mind-- -[Trey] This is good, too. 1544 01:24:54,263 --> 01:24:56,700 This is it for our 17th Madison Square Garden show. 1545 01:24:56,743 --> 01:24:58,049 We could do... 1546 01:24:58,093 --> 01:25:01,139 ♪ I learned the truth at 17 1547 01:25:01,183 --> 01:25:02,793 [laughing] 1548 01:25:02,836 --> 01:25:05,796 -♪ When I was 17 -[laughing] 1549 01:25:05,839 --> 01:25:08,668 ♪ It was a very good year 1550 01:25:10,540 --> 01:25:12,933 I better do silver, because everybody else did silver. 1551 01:25:15,066 --> 01:25:17,721 It looks a little bigger in real life 1552 01:25:17,764 --> 01:25:20,506 than it looks on... You know what I mean? 1553 01:25:20,550 --> 01:25:23,030 I could block one of those. 1554 01:25:23,074 --> 01:25:24,554 -Well, thank you. -Thank you. 1555 01:25:24,597 --> 01:25:26,164 Love you guys, and thanks. Happy New Year. 1556 01:25:26,208 --> 01:25:27,731 Happy New Year. We'll see you next year. 1557 01:25:27,774 --> 01:25:29,689 -Hey! Good to see you. -Hey, buddy. 1558 01:25:29,733 --> 01:25:32,605 Again and again. Every year, every year, every year. 1559 01:25:33,432 --> 01:25:35,869 [Sue] I'll see you. You won't see me. 1560 01:25:35,913 --> 01:25:38,437 I'll come back during the set breaks and stuff, 1561 01:25:38,481 --> 01:25:39,786 but you'll probably be busy. 1562 01:25:39,830 --> 01:25:41,136 -I'll be here. Bye. -All right. 1563 01:25:42,702 --> 01:25:44,356 And Fish had been out all night. Did I tell you this story? 1564 01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:45,966 [Page] Yeah, I remember this. 1565 01:25:46,010 --> 01:25:47,316 I remember there was some George Harrison involved. 1566 01:25:47,359 --> 01:25:50,101 He came home, and he was, like... 1567 01:25:50,145 --> 01:25:51,929 got on the couch and went to sleep. 1568 01:25:53,887 --> 01:25:55,193 And then we started having 1569 01:25:55,237 --> 01:25:56,977 -this huge fight, you know? -Yep. 1570 01:25:57,021 --> 01:25:58,805 I was kinda in shock, and Fish had been asleep 1571 01:25:58,849 --> 01:26:00,416 for, like, an hour on the couch. 1572 01:26:00,459 --> 01:26:02,461 And I ran out. I was like, "Fish, we gotta go!" 1573 01:26:02,505 --> 01:26:04,463 He, like, jumped right up. 1574 01:26:04,507 --> 01:26:06,291 He was like, "Okay, where are we going?" 1575 01:26:06,335 --> 01:26:07,901 Having slept for, like, an hour. 1576 01:26:08,685 --> 01:26:11,209 We just drove around until the OP opened. 1577 01:26:11,253 --> 01:26:12,515 We went out and got beers 1578 01:26:12,558 --> 01:26:14,212 at eleven o'clock in the morning. 1579 01:26:14,256 --> 01:26:15,518 [laughs] 1580 01:26:15,561 --> 01:26:18,129 ♪ Give me love, give me love 1581 01:26:18,173 --> 01:26:19,783 It was such a great day. 1582 01:26:19,826 --> 01:26:22,264 -It's weird how bad things... -Yes. 1583 01:26:22,307 --> 01:26:24,309 ...sometimes end up being the best days. 1584 01:26:24,353 --> 01:26:27,051 They're liberating. I look back on some dark times, 1585 01:26:27,094 --> 01:26:29,488 and I'm like, "Boy, it seemed rough at the time, 1586 01:26:29,532 --> 01:26:31,229 but there was a certain excitement, 1587 01:26:31,273 --> 01:26:36,103 and a certain freedom." And that when it went away, 1588 01:26:36,147 --> 01:26:37,931 I wasn't sad. But I was like, 1589 01:26:37,975 --> 01:26:40,369 "I'm never gonna feel like that again." 1590 01:26:40,412 --> 01:26:42,240 Like you feel alive or something. 1591 01:26:42,284 --> 01:26:45,243 [Page] Yeah. You were, like, just so alive in every moment. 1592 01:26:49,769 --> 01:26:51,249 How's the show going? 1593 01:26:51,293 --> 01:26:52,642 You do what you gotta do. 1594 01:26:53,425 --> 01:26:55,732 It's not quite... 1595 01:26:55,775 --> 01:26:57,690 Yeah, I know. It's... Ever since... 1596 01:26:57,734 --> 01:26:59,257 I haven't even read the book yet, 1597 01:26:59,301 --> 01:27:00,215 but it's already loosening up. 1598 01:27:00,258 --> 01:27:01,564 It's already working. 1599 01:27:01,607 --> 01:27:02,304 You're gonna read the introduction. 1600 01:27:02,347 --> 01:27:04,393 [indistinct] 1601 01:27:04,436 --> 01:27:05,611 Arms getting a little sore 1602 01:27:05,655 --> 01:27:06,960 about 2/3 through the second solo. 1603 01:27:07,004 --> 01:27:08,179 I was like... 1604 01:27:08,223 --> 01:27:12,575 [indistinct chatter] 1605 01:27:13,140 --> 01:27:15,273 -You feel good. -[crowd cheering] 1606 01:27:26,066 --> 01:27:28,155 [crowd roars] 1607 01:27:32,203 --> 01:27:36,120 ♪ Well, now everyone's together On the soul planet ♪ 1608 01:27:36,163 --> 01:27:38,949 ♪ There's one beating heart On the soul planet ♪ 1609 01:27:38,992 --> 01:27:42,300 ♪ There's room for everyone On the soul planet ♪ 1610 01:27:42,344 --> 01:27:45,260 ♪ There's space for everyone On the soul planet ♪ 1611 01:27:45,303 --> 01:27:48,263 ♪ There's ten million colors On the soul planet ♪ 1612 01:27:48,306 --> 01:27:51,222 ♪ Speak the language of love On the soul planet ♪ 1613 01:27:51,266 --> 01:27:54,051 ♪ We're screaming through space We're screaming through space ♪ 1614 01:27:54,094 --> 01:27:56,923 ♪ And everyone's together 1615 01:27:56,967 --> 01:27:59,752 ♪ And there's one big ocean 1616 01:27:59,796 --> 01:28:02,929 ♪ And the ocean is love 1617 01:28:02,973 --> 01:28:06,063 ♪ And everybody's reaching 1618 01:28:11,373 --> 01:28:13,070 ♪ And the ocean is love 1619 01:28:13,113 --> 01:28:14,854 ♪ And the ocean is love 1620 01:28:14,898 --> 01:28:17,248 ♪ Wind is the music 1621 01:28:17,292 --> 01:28:18,641 ♪ Soul planet 1622 01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:21,383 ♪ Soul planet 1623 01:28:46,669 --> 01:28:48,192 [explosion] 1624 01:28:48,235 --> 01:28:49,628 [whistling] 1625 01:28:51,413 --> 01:28:52,631 [explosion] 1626 01:28:52,675 --> 01:28:54,372 [cheering] 1627 01:28:59,638 --> 01:29:02,206 [explosions] 1628 01:29:18,178 --> 01:29:20,572 [plays "Auld Lang Syne"] 1629 01:29:47,469 --> 01:29:48,774 [crowd cheering] 1630 01:29:56,913 --> 01:29:59,785 [Trey] I was thinking about that scene in The Last Waltz, 1631 01:29:59,829 --> 01:30:02,179 where Robbie Roberts is saying, "We've been on the road 1632 01:30:02,222 --> 01:30:03,963 for 15 years, and it's an impossible life, 1633 01:30:04,007 --> 01:30:05,922 so I wanna stop." 1634 01:30:05,965 --> 01:30:08,664 I gotta look at that a little bit like, really? Fifteen years? 1635 01:30:08,707 --> 01:30:11,884 That's all you can take? C'mon, man! 1636 01:30:11,928 --> 01:30:13,103 Like, I'll never stop. 1637 01:30:14,757 --> 01:30:16,933 It can be lonely sometimes, and whatever, it is. 1638 01:30:16,976 --> 01:30:18,717 You know, but who cares? 1639 01:30:18,761 --> 01:30:20,545 It's like, it's the best. I'm never going to stop. 1640 01:30:21,938 --> 01:30:23,200 I don't want to stop. 1641 01:30:28,161 --> 01:30:31,426 ♪ I'm living In an endless dream ♪ 1642 01:30:31,469 --> 01:30:35,734 ♪ The moments run together In a winding stream ♪ 1643 01:30:37,301 --> 01:30:40,609 ♪ I look in your familiar eyes 1644 01:30:42,524 --> 01:30:46,005 ♪ And watch The moon's reflections rise ♪ 1645 01:30:46,049 --> 01:30:49,705 ♪ While angels in the garden Ingest the light ♪ 1646 01:30:51,533 --> 01:30:54,492 ♪ With pulsing wings And timeless sight ♪ 1647 01:30:56,363 --> 01:30:59,845 ♪ The cool evening air Moves through ♪ 1648 01:31:00,672 --> 01:31:03,893 ♪ These are My sunset days with you ♪ 1649 01:31:05,460 --> 01:31:06,722 [guitar music] 1650 01:31:09,899 --> 01:31:13,946 ♪ We're walking On the cobblestones ♪ 1651 01:31:14,599 --> 01:31:17,689 ♪ Along the road That leads us home ♪ 1652 01:31:19,125 --> 01:31:22,172 ♪ You're laughing loud Your eyes agleam ♪ 1653 01:31:23,956 --> 01:31:26,698 ♪ Through the muting reds Of autumn's dream ♪ 1654 01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:31,486 ♪ You are my sun You are my soul ♪ 1655 01:31:33,096 --> 01:31:36,186 ♪ You are my truth You keep me whole ♪ 1656 01:31:37,709 --> 01:31:40,843 ♪ And hold me Till the night is through ♪ 1657 01:31:42,322 --> 01:31:45,195 ♪ And make the daytime Bright and new ♪ 1658 01:31:46,718 --> 01:31:49,460 ♪ So stay here In my endless dream ♪ 1659 01:31:50,374 --> 01:31:54,378 ♪ Where moments run together In a winding stream ♪ 1660 01:31:55,771 --> 01:31:59,209 ♪ There's nothing That I'd rather do ♪ 1661 01:32:00,558 --> 01:32:03,605 ♪ Than spend my sunset days With you ♪ 1662 01:32:05,389 --> 01:32:08,697 ♪ Than spend my sunset days With you ♪ 1663 01:32:23,581 --> 01:32:25,017 [Trey] I like that, man. 1664 01:32:27,454 --> 01:32:29,544 Yeah, man. Record that. 1665 01:32:30,414 --> 01:32:32,764 -Yeah! -Just let that go a few times. 1666 01:32:32,808 --> 01:32:34,461 [laughter] 1667 01:32:34,505 --> 01:32:36,115 That's kind of Nordic, too. 1668 01:32:36,159 --> 01:32:38,161 I like that better than the piece we just did. 1669 01:32:39,554 --> 01:32:41,077 That's actually good! 1670 01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:42,513 -That's actually good. -That's a good intro. 1671 01:32:42,557 --> 01:32:43,993 Don't be scared to do like six or more. 1672 01:32:44,036 --> 01:32:45,951 -At least. -Do more than you think is good. 1673 01:32:51,130 --> 01:32:53,350 More, more, more! C'mon! 1674 01:32:53,393 --> 01:32:55,134 [soft music] 1675 01:33:03,969 --> 01:33:05,449 [laughing] 1676 01:33:05,492 --> 01:33:07,494 -It's getting better. -Yeah! 1677 01:33:11,107 --> 01:33:14,371 All right. Okay. 1678 01:33:14,414 --> 01:33:16,503 All right now, let's reel it back in, gentlemen. 1679 01:33:16,547 --> 01:33:19,855 -Boys, reel it back in. -[laughing] 1680 01:33:19,898 --> 01:33:21,639 That was fun. 1681 01:33:22,814 --> 01:33:24,642 -Six? -Let Fish hit, 1682 01:33:24,686 --> 01:33:25,991 like, a cymbal at the end. 1683 01:33:26,035 --> 01:33:27,384 Like, bash! 1684 01:33:27,427 --> 01:33:28,820 Maybe we should do an ending note. 1685 01:33:29,386 --> 01:33:30,735 -Because it's-- -Yeah, like a "Go!" 1686 01:33:30,779 --> 01:33:33,608 I'm fucking here! You're fucking there! 1687 01:33:33,651 --> 01:33:35,218 You're fucking there! Here! 1688 01:33:36,480 --> 01:33:39,439 [laughing] We should really do that. 1689 01:33:41,093 --> 01:33:43,052 -It's right here. -You do it. 1690 01:33:43,095 --> 01:33:44,488 ♪ You're fucking there 1691 01:33:44,531 --> 01:33:45,924 ♪ I'm fucking there 1692 01:33:45,968 --> 01:33:47,273 ♪ You're fucking there 1693 01:33:47,317 --> 01:33:49,101 ♪ You're fucking here 1694 01:33:49,145 --> 01:33:50,929 ♪ You're fucking there I'm fucking there ♪ 1695 01:33:50,973 --> 01:33:52,148 ♪ You're fucking there I'm fucking there ♪ 1696 01:33:52,191 --> 01:33:54,977 ♪ Fucking there, there, there 1697 01:33:55,020 --> 01:33:56,195 Finland! 1698 01:33:56,239 --> 01:33:57,588 [laughter] 1699 01:34:04,203 --> 01:34:07,163 [Mike] C'mon. It was good. 1700 01:34:08,991 --> 01:34:10,035 Alright. 1701 01:34:11,602 --> 01:34:13,038 You got that, Bryce? 1702 01:34:14,779 --> 01:34:16,781 [all laughing] 1703 01:34:16,825 --> 01:34:19,436 [Trey] It's a good thing we threw in that one. 1704 01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:20,393 Yeah. 1705 01:34:21,525 --> 01:34:23,614 [Trey] Good thing we came back to that. 121896

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