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[piano music fades out]
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Hey, buddy. Hi.
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[piano music]
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[Trey] There it is.
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All I do on the piano
is compose,
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which is very slow when
I use the paper and compose.
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And that's it, I don't
really play the piano, so...
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If you're composing, it's great,
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'cause you can see
how all the chords lay out.
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When Phish started,
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I didn't know
I was gonna be in a rock band.
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I thought I was gonna be
a composer. [laughs]
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A lot of the first Phish stuff
was heavily composed.
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This is the tune "Foam"
that we do.
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This is all written out.
It's a big chart. It's all...
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And also
"You Enjoy Myself" was that...
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a lot of the early stuff.
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It wasn't like rock music.
I don't really know what it was.
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It's a weird band, I mean...
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It's not really... I don't know
what kind of music this is.
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-[laughing]
-[music over phone]
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You know what I mean?
All that shit.
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One guy who was in the band
pretty much quit
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because he was like,
"What the hell is this?"
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[guitar music]
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[indistinct singing]
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This is the boring reality
of what I do every morning now.
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It's just that all these
lyrics are wrong.
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Now I have to write
them all down again.
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♪ I pulled a thread
Out of the air ♪
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♪ Golden and shining
As thin as a hair ♪
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I always have a lot of projects
going on: TAB, Solo Acoustic...
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but the musical center
of my life is Phish.
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We've been playing together
since 1983.
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[Jon] Yo.
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-How you doing?
-[Jon] Good, man.
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I'm sitting here, like,
working on "Thread" right now.
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[Jon] Yeah. Yeah.
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Basically, just refer
to the demo for the tempo.
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-Yeah.
-Yeah, yeah.
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-'Cause it's like--
-I hadn't got that far yet.
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So funny, I was just sitting
here, like,[unclear].
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I was just thinking of that
tune, like, I was singing--
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I know, it sticks
in my head so much.
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-Yeah.
-Doesn't it? It's like,
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♪ I pulled a thread
Out of the air ♪
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[scat singing]
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I think we kind of got it up
because we were excited.
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[scat singing]
You know, that was me.
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-It was hopping right along.
-It was hopping.
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That's the only thing
I was gonna say.
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I really liked
"Come Together," "Frost,"
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"A Case of Ice and Snow,"
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and that "Love's Only A Number"
thing. That's just the best.
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[Jon] That one seemed almost
the most[unclear] to me,
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with just, you know, with just
the little that we put on it.
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That's good. That's great.
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Then Mike will have
a couple of songs,
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and Page will have
a couple of songs,
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and you'll have,
you know, whatever.
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And then we'll have songs.
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Yeah, that's great.
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[Trey] We need songs right now
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because we're trying
to do this thing
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called the baker's dozen,
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where we're going to do
13 consecutive nights
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at Madison Square Garden,
and we're gonna try to do them
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without any repeats.
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So, that'll be
probably about 280 songs.
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You know, most bands do
a similar show every night.
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So my head is kind of exploding
with the whole thing.
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It's exciting.
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I am writing this longform thing
that I'm into now.
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This Ghosts of the Forest idea.
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My oldest friend Chris is now
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in this battle with cancer.
He's stage four.
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He used to hunt elk.
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That's, like, where
the title idea came from.
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Ghosts of the Forest.
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They called elk
"ghosts of the forest"
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because you could be following
a trail and they just vanish.
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You never know when the trail
is going to end.
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I was thinking about
my only sibling
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has passed away.
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Chris and both the girls
have grown up.
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It's all just so fleeting.
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[acoustic music]
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♪ Misty ships
On the horizon line ♪
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♪ And the golden dome
Is waking ♪
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♪ Morning birds arc
In magnetic parade ♪
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♪ The dawn is slowly breaking
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♪ Vapor splits
Into yellow light ♪
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♪ The air is burning rapture
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♪ Phantasm rings
Of golden heat ♪
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♪ In red hypnotic pastures
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♪ And high up
On the mountaintop ♪
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♪ The silver smoke is rising
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♪ High up on the mountaintop
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♪ It twists and turns
And drifts toward the sea ♪
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♪ The sea
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[acoustic music]
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♪ I'm wide awake
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♪ I'm wide awake
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♪ I'm wide awake
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♪ And the ghosts
Are out to greet me ♪
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A couple of albums ago, a door
started opening up for me
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in terms of writing
about personal things.
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I wrote a song about my sister
called "Miss You"
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after she died.
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Once that door opens,
it's like a floodgate.
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Suddenly you want
to start writing about
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what you're really feeling
in your personal life
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in a much more direct way.
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Suddenly, I'm writing about Sue,
and I'm writing about
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my family and friends.
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And I want to talk
to them and find out
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what is my mom's perspective?
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You know,
what is my dad's perspective?
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Even as a parent,
I've got my own story
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about how I raise
my kids and stuff.
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You know, and maybe I just
wanna learn the truth.
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My dad worked in Princeton.
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My Mom never really fit
in Princeton.
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She's a New Yorker
through and through.
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When I was 18, she said,
"Go raise some money."
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We painted a couple of houses
or something
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and I went and became
a street musician in Europe.
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That's the kinda thing she
would always encourage me to do.
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Very creative, wrote books.
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All kinds of creative people
on that side of the family.
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[Dina] I think I've told
you this before,
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when you were really little,
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four, five, six, you went to
so many plays all the time.
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Peter Pan...
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[Trey] South Pacific,
West Side Story.
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[Dina] I mean, Kristy and you,
you both knew
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the lyrics
to every single Broadway song.
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[Trey] Yeah.
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[Dina] A lot of Kristy's friends
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come and have lunch
with me on this bench.
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So it's like, "Let's go to
Kristy's bench and have lunch."
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And, you know, it's really good.
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-[Trey] I love the bench.
-I love the bench.
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You know, during that whole
time, I mean, you were...
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I don't know what
we would have done without you.
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There's no good thing to say
when it sucks.
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-I know.
-It just sucks.
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It sucks.
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Anyway, there you go.
But back to music. [laughs]
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I remember you guys
had big parties.
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-We had big parties.
-And they went on for two days
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-with the speakers on the roof.
-We did.
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And everybody was listening
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-to great music.
-We were, like, young.
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Early 20s.
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But your sense of adventure was
magnetic and also paved the way.
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Yeah.
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Like, when you're like,
"I'm going to Barbados
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with a backpack." You know,
to go live on the beach.
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And then when you're like
"I'm off to India."
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It basically said to me that
that's a possibility.
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-[Dina] Yeah.
-I know it was important to you
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that both Kristy and I knew
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-there was a world outside of...
-[Dina] But yes, and--
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...that suburban block
that we lived on.
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[Dina] Definitely. You try and
do the best you can, you know?
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I don't know.
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Remember in hockey we had
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the lead puck
and everything, remember?
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And the 50 shots before dinner.
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And all that stuff,
it was great.
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I loved playing hockey
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because it was fun
to be good at something,
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and I loved playing hockey
because it was with dad.
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And I wanted to do
stuff with dad.
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-[Dina] Yes.
-But no matter how good I got,
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like, it wasn't enough.
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-It was, like, never enough.
-[Dina] That's true.
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In the meantime,
I was playing music.
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-Yeah.
-And--
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-Happy.
-Oh, man.
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Every bit of, like,
anger and frustration
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and joy was coming out in music.
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You never stopped drumming.
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You drummed all the time
when you were two, three, four.
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It was like "du-du-du-du."
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And you used to sit behind
me in the car and...
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It's like...
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Like this all day long,
for long car trips.
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Like, "Trey!"
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And then remember
in the fifth grade,
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you're getting kicked
out of class?
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-Yes.
-That was why.
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"Stop drumming, Trey!"
And you couldn't.
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And I became--
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I got kicked out of chorus
for drumming.
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[Dina]
You must have been born with
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just way too many notes
in your brain.
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And you'll spend a lifetime
never getting them all out.
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Then I looked at you up there,
and I think, wow,
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"He is so happy,
and how great is that?"
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It feels like everything
just fell into place.
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And the result I can read
on other people's faces.
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It's not just
that I'm having fun.
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It's that they are, you know
what I mean? Or Page is.
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I felt like that with Tom, like,
in eighth grade
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when we'd, like, write a song.
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All of a sudden,
we'd be like, "Oh!"
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[Dina] I thought it was great.
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-A lot of things--
-It was scary at times.
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I didn't like it at times,
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because it was scary
because it was too big.
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I felt like you just
were trapped in this madness,
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and you couldn't see a way out.
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I think that's why
things went south, you know.
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The first time you played
at Madison Square Garden,
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and everybody was, like, taking
pictures of the marquee,
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and oh my God,
your name was up there.
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Phish was up there. This was
the most exciting thing ever.
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We were so happy.
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And then to stand back
and look at these people,
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all these people...
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I thought
this is just too scary,
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and it's going to get bigger.
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It just scared me to death.
And I was right.
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[laughing] It did get
a little big there for a while.
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[guitar music]
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[Trey] When I'm in the barn,
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I feel the presence
of my grandmother,
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my grandfather,
the lost and the loved ones.
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They're all a part of me.
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I don't float
through life alone.
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I float through life
with pieces of my father,
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and pieces of my mother
and friends.
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You know,
we're part of a tapestry.
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And so this album
is a lot about that.
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♪ We're all here together
And the weather's fine ♪
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♪ Dancing in a dream
Beneath the sea of stars ♪
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♪ The lights are crashing
And the waves are splashing ♪
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♪ Dancing in a dream
Beneath the sea of stars ♪
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A minor.
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[Trey] Fish and Tony were
two of the first people I met
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when I came to Burlington
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and two of the most important
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musical collaborators
in my life,
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and they've never
played together.
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I thought this project
would be a great chance
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to start it off
with the three of us.
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Build it from there.
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That's great.
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When you make records,
you clean up all the edges,
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for, like, presentation. Put,
like, a click track on this,
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to make it straighter.
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I don't want to do that anymore.
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I want to be organic and alive
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and in the moment,
and, like, in the now.
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[calming music]
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Hello?
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It's become a tradition
that Phish plays
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every New Year's Eve at Madison
Square Garden, and at midnight,
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we do a thing that we call
"the gag theatrical event."
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And this year, I have
a really cool idea
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that I can't wait
to share with the guys.
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We're going to turn Madison
Square Garden into an ocean,
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and the stage is gonna
become a pirate ship
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floating on top of it, carrying
us along over the audience.
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It's gonna be really cool.
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-Yo!
-Brother!
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[indistinct]
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[laughing]
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I got that from this guy...
It's 26 inches.
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[Trey] It's gonna contribute
to my deafness is the problem.
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[Jon] That's where I keep
all my, like, drum doodads.
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-Your herb.
-Yeah.
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[Trey] Greatest thing you ever
told me was that Tommy Lee
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really liked
our Rolling Stonescover.
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[Jon laughing]
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, He did.
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That was, like, the only thing
he said to me.
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[laughing] "Hey, man.
I really wanted to be..."
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-I was like "Thank you!"
-With the caveman?
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-Yeah. I had a tutu.
-The shirt off.
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[Trey] He said something like,
"Yeah finally, a band."
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[Jon] That was his thing, was,
like, a band on the cover,
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-like, not trying to be cool.
-Not giving a fuck.
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[Trey]
"You guys really aren't cool!"
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[all laughing]
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-Isn't that fucking amazing?
-It was great.
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It's a miracle
that we still have a career,
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after trying
so hard just to sabotage it.
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[Jon] No band has worked harder
shooting themselves in the foot.
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[Trey] Destroy their own career.
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Yeah, that's great.
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Alright,
let's just try this. Okay.
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One, two, three...
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[upbeat music]
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That'll work!
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♪ Well, everyone's together
On the soul planet ♪
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♪ There's one beating heart
On the soul planet ♪
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I think that was good!
I love the half thing.
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-Yeah well that's--
-That's pirates up there
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like, moving the sail
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-at that point.
-Well, that's the thing.
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-It's like... [grunting]
-Yeah.
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Pulling ropes and shit.
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It's like you can't
get enough of that.
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[Trey] You can't...
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-You can't do too much of that.
-There's never enough half.
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There's never enough
halving off the beat.
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You have to put vocals on top,
'cause everybody is...
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Right, the "wind
is the music" part?
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Yeah, I thought
maybe I would do just
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the regular "wind is the music."
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That'd be great.
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'Cause I thought Page is doing
the "wind is the music"
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was a little high.
He might maybe do that.
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Or you can do the "soul planet."
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-Oh, soul planet, right, right.
-...through space.
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You can kinda do
whatever you wanna to do.
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♪ Everyone's together
On the soul planet ♪
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♪ There's one beating heart
On the soul planet ♪
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♪ Dancing and breathing
On the soul planet ♪
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And you go, "soul planet!"
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♪ Soul planet!
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♪ And everyone's together
And there's one big ocean ♪
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♪ And the ocean is love
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-♪ And everybody's reaching
-[blowing]
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♪ And we're leaning
On each other ♪
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♪ On the soul planet
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Visually, there's a lot to it,
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but musically,
it's just fucking rock,
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which is great.
It's just a pocket.
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Get a good pocket going and go.
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Kinda minimal arrangement,
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-you know. It's like...
-My favorite part, by far,
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is that we're
passengers on the boat,
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and the wind is the music
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blowing us along
over the sea of people.
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[Jon] You can definitely get
behind that. I mean, it is what
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we've been doing for 34 years.
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That's what it feels like.
Except when it's bad.
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-Well...
-And then it feels like...
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-It feels like--
-When it's bad,
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-it's me doing it.
-[laughter]
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Then it feels
like it's just sort of like
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the boat's taking on water.
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It's just, you know, listing,
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and everybody's panicking
in their own way.
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I wanna show you this picture.
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[both laugh]
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-Who's that?
-C Cott.
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-Is that C Cott?
-Yeah, he's bald now.
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-Oh my God. That's awesome.
-[Trey] Isn't that great?
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Looks like a badass,
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-doesn't he?
-Oh, yeah.
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-[Trey] I like it.
-He's always looked
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like a badass.
That's a great photo.
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-[Trey] I know.
-I've never seen him with--
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[Trey] His hair was falling out
from the chemo.
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Oh! He's gone through chemo?
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-Yeah, you didn't know?
-I didn't know that.
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-Yeah.
-Oh, Jesus.
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He's got stage four cancer,
it's, like, it's bad.
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-C Cott?
-You didn't know that?
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-I didn't tell you?
-I didn't know that at all.
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-No.
-It's so weird.
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I didn't tell anybody
for, like, a long time.
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I just didn't want to talk
about it,
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because it was, like,
really bumming me out.
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But he did a biopsy
and they found out
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he has adrenal cortical
cancer, stage four.
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-[Jon] That sucks.
-Like, serious cancer.
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[Jon] He might beat it.
He's the kind of guy
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that if he beat it, I actually
wouldn't be surprised.
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-I hope he does.
-Yeah.
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He's a great guy.
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Anyway...
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[somber music]
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The first day I ever came to
Burlington, I was 18 years old.
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I came to look at UVM.
I went out and I saw
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Big Joe Burrell
& The Unknown Blues Band.
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♪ I'm going to rip it, rock it
Really pop it ♪
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♪ Flip it, flop it
Dance it, rock it ♪
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♪ Every time I hear
That saxophone ♪
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[Trey] One of the greatest,
most life changing nights ever.
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♪ Roll, roll, roll
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♪ Bop, bop, bop
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[Trey] And Tony Markellis
was his bass player,
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who's now the bass player
in TAB.
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And that was, like,
a big part of the reason
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I wanted to move to Burlington.
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Here's my dorm
from when I was a freshman.
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Right there,
there's Fish's room.
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He was a few halls down from me.
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He was a freshman, and he had
his drum set in his room.
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And I went over and jammed
with my amp.
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We started jamming right away.
That was, like, 35 years ago.
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When we were just starting out,
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we used to play
at Nectar's over there.
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This was the band's house.
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This house.
This is where we lived.
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00:21:01,782 --> 00:21:03,740
That was Fish's room,
right there.
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Every day at one o'clock,
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I would have to go up there
and wake him up.
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He liked to sleep.
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The Nectar's is one block there.
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So we would go over there
and we'd do three sets.
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He'd say, you know,
"play 'Mustang Sally,'"
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or "play a slow one."
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And then at 7 it would
kinda switch to, like,
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bar scene, and then
for the late night set,
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all our friends would be there
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and it would turn into
this crazy Icculus Gamehendge,
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people screaming
and all this stuff.
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Then afterwards,
we would usually go out
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till two in the morning,
go out to, like, the Quarry
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or go to Howard Johnson's
or something like that.
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I remember walking in that door
with all the sheet music
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that was "You Enjoy Myself."
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And Jeff,
our first guitar player,
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would just be like, "What
is this? I'm not doing this."
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And Page being like,
"I'll do it, yeah let's do it."
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In the basement,
and then learning all the
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[hums notes] down there.
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It says The Hood Plant.
It was the hood plant.
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That's where, you know,
they packaged the milk,
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when we were living there.
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And that's where
the song came from.
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A previous owner
of this small house
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was named Mr. Miner,
so we used to get all his mail.
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00:22:06,455 --> 00:22:08,457
And then we got these
like... [laughing]
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You know, like,
Publisher's Clearing House...
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"Thank you, Mr. Miner."
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And we were always like,
"Thank you, Mr. Miner."
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Turn around there,
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you look up on the second floor.
That's where Sue lived.
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She was, like, a waitress
at [unclear].
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She lived right up there.
And I lived right here.
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She was 19.
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Still together.
All right, let's go.
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00:22:48,454 --> 00:22:50,151
-Dude, man.
-[Page] What's up, buddy?
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00:22:50,194 --> 00:22:52,327
-How's Fish doing?
-Fish is good.
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00:22:53,067 --> 00:22:55,286
What a fucking distance
he's gone.
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00:22:55,330 --> 00:22:56,984
Yeah.
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00:22:57,027 --> 00:22:58,855
-From the fucking laundry pile.
-Right? [laughing]
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00:22:58,899 --> 00:23:00,422
You remember that?
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00:23:00,466 --> 00:23:02,032
Like in the green house,
he had a laundry pile
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and two drumsticks.
He didn't even have a bed.
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00:23:04,644 --> 00:23:06,254
No, I know, he would just sleep
on a laundry pile.
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00:23:06,297 --> 00:23:07,951
He just slept on a laundry pile.
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00:23:07,995 --> 00:23:10,214
I go up there, he's got
five kids, amazing wife...
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-He's got a bed.
-He's got a bed!
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00:23:12,173 --> 00:23:13,348
[both laughing]
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00:23:13,392 --> 00:23:14,784
He's got a bed.
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00:23:16,307 --> 00:23:18,397
-It's like--
-Country mile.
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[Page] It's in B.
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[Trey] It's just like,
put everything in B,
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'cause it's good for these.
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00:23:25,491 --> 00:23:27,362
-[Page] Great.
-I just... Putting it in B
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gets me... yeah.
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00:23:30,147 --> 00:23:31,410
-Wait, stop for a second.
-Yup.
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So it goes...
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♪ Well everyone's together
On the soul planet ♪
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♪ There's one beating heart
On the soul planet ♪
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00:23:40,593 --> 00:23:43,726
♪ Bouncing and breathing
On the soul planet ♪
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00:23:43,770 --> 00:23:44,858
♪ We keep on...
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Double that.
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♪ We can keep on rolling
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[Page] Same thing.
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♪ Spinnin' and turnin'
On the soul planet ♪
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♪ Keep on rolling, keep on...
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00:23:54,433 --> 00:23:56,173
-To G.
-Yeah, yeah, okay.
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00:23:56,217 --> 00:24:00,090
[wordless singing]
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00:24:00,134 --> 00:24:02,005
♪ And everybody's reaching
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00:24:03,703 --> 00:24:05,269
Like that.
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00:24:05,313 --> 00:24:06,488
-♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
-[Trey] Yeah.
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00:24:08,316 --> 00:24:09,535
-Yeah, that's it.
-Okay.
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00:24:09,578 --> 00:24:10,927
So here's what it sounds like
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-with Fish playing that.
-[Page] Okay.
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♪ There's a slow stream of power
On the soul planet ♪
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00:24:15,323 --> 00:24:18,500
♪ And the power is love
On the soul planet ♪
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00:24:18,544 --> 00:24:22,025
♪ And the wind is music
On the soul planet ♪
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00:24:22,069 --> 00:24:24,767
♪ Screaming through space
We're screaming through space ♪
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♪ And everyone's together
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00:24:27,814 --> 00:24:30,294
♪ And there's one big ocean
488
00:24:30,991 --> 00:24:33,210
♪ And the ocean is love
489
00:24:34,168 --> 00:24:36,475
♪ And everybody's reaching
490
00:24:37,606 --> 00:24:40,609
[Trey] Now comes the D. To D.
491
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:46,093
-[uplifting piano music]
-[vocalizing]
492
00:24:47,398 --> 00:24:48,487
Now to G.
493
00:24:49,792 --> 00:24:52,752
♪ And the ocean is love
494
00:24:52,795 --> 00:24:56,190
♪ And the ocean is love
495
00:24:56,233 --> 00:24:57,800
♪ And the music
496
00:24:58,888 --> 00:25:01,369
♪ Wind is the music
497
00:25:02,457 --> 00:25:05,242
♪ And the ocean is love
498
00:25:13,555 --> 00:25:15,339
I think it's an F sharp, now.
499
00:25:16,645 --> 00:25:18,734
Fish's voice
sounds really good on that.
500
00:25:18,778 --> 00:25:19,822
♪ Soul planet
501
00:25:19,866 --> 00:25:21,781
That's a good place to keep him.
502
00:25:21,824 --> 00:25:23,304
[Page]
It's a good thing for him, yeah.
503
00:25:23,347 --> 00:25:25,045
[Trey] He also only
has to stay on one note.
504
00:25:25,088 --> 00:25:27,613
[Page laughs] That's also good.
505
00:25:28,265 --> 00:25:30,267
-That's cool, man. That's great.
-[Trey] That sounded so good.
506
00:25:30,311 --> 00:25:32,008
It's gonna be great.
It's gonna be really fun.
507
00:25:32,052 --> 00:25:34,184
-That's gonna be another year.
-[Trey] Another year.
508
00:25:34,228 --> 00:25:36,056
They keep coming.
509
00:25:36,099 --> 00:25:39,015
They just keep rolling. 18.
It doesn't seem like 18 years
510
00:25:39,059 --> 00:25:41,757
-since Big Cypress.
-Oh, my God.
511
00:25:43,019 --> 00:25:45,369
Oh, my God. That's a lot.
512
00:25:45,413 --> 00:25:47,241
At Big Cypress I had
a 6-week-old daughter,
513
00:25:47,284 --> 00:25:49,330
and now I got
an 18-year-old daughter.
514
00:25:49,373 --> 00:25:51,375
Here we are. We've come a long
way from the little house.
515
00:25:51,419 --> 00:25:52,768
Yeah.
516
00:25:52,812 --> 00:25:54,596
In a lot of ways,
I think this last year
517
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,772
has brought it back to that fun.
518
00:25:56,816 --> 00:25:58,121
I really think that
519
00:25:58,165 --> 00:25:59,645
-the fun we were having...
-I agree.
520
00:25:59,688 --> 00:26:01,647
...when we were rehearsing
in the basement
521
00:26:01,690 --> 00:26:03,605
or up in Fish's room
there at the little house
522
00:26:03,649 --> 00:26:06,173
and the comfortableness
of walking on stage
523
00:26:06,216 --> 00:26:09,916
and having fun, and just,
it felt very similar
524
00:26:09,959 --> 00:26:11,395
to walking on stage at Nectar's,
525
00:26:11,439 --> 00:26:13,310
and just having
all those people there
526
00:26:13,354 --> 00:26:17,924
and, you know, loving it
and just the joy of it.
527
00:26:17,967 --> 00:26:22,276
It's still there. It was hard
to keep a close hold on that joy
528
00:26:22,319 --> 00:26:24,408
for all those 30 years
or 35 years or whatever,
529
00:26:24,452 --> 00:26:26,672
but I really feel like
it's back.
530
00:26:26,715 --> 00:26:28,587
I'm back to that spot again
531
00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:32,808
where I'm feeling that joyous
about it again. It's back, baby.
532
00:26:33,504 --> 00:26:36,638
[both laughing]
533
00:26:36,682 --> 00:26:39,249
-I agree, man. I really do.
-Alright, man.
534
00:26:42,078 --> 00:26:44,298
-That was great! Thank you.
-See you soon. Thank you!
535
00:26:48,302 --> 00:26:50,609
When I was, like, 16, my parents
were getting divorced.
536
00:26:50,652 --> 00:26:54,003
And I remember a tangible
feeling of things coming apart.
537
00:26:54,047 --> 00:26:56,092
Everything
was kind of falling apart.
538
00:26:56,136 --> 00:26:59,400
My sister was off to college,
we were selling the house,
539
00:26:59,443 --> 00:27:03,360
and my music friends
became sort of my new family.
540
00:27:03,404 --> 00:27:05,188
And they still are to this day.
541
00:27:06,407 --> 00:27:09,453
[lively rock music]
542
00:28:23,266 --> 00:28:24,528
Okay.
543
00:28:24,572 --> 00:28:27,270
[guitar music]
544
00:28:37,541 --> 00:28:38,891
Man.
545
00:28:40,806 --> 00:28:43,417
Dude, that amp sounds...
[laughs]
546
00:28:43,460 --> 00:28:46,072
I can't believe
how good that amp sounds.
547
00:28:49,684 --> 00:28:51,164
What's the dynamics sound like?
548
00:28:52,295 --> 00:28:53,688
[Ben] That's the dynamic, and...
549
00:28:53,732 --> 00:28:55,081
[guitar playback]
550
00:28:55,124 --> 00:28:56,865
Well, actually,
it's not that different.
551
00:28:56,909 --> 00:28:58,867
Try the ribbon.
552
00:28:59,781 --> 00:29:01,435
[Ben] I've got to adjust
the gain over here.
553
00:29:03,045 --> 00:29:05,047
-Ah!
-[deep bass]
554
00:29:06,483 --> 00:29:08,442
Does that sound cool up there?
555
00:29:13,447 --> 00:29:14,709
Can I hear that?
556
00:29:16,667 --> 00:29:18,539
That's great, man.
557
00:29:18,582 --> 00:29:21,803
That's, like, fucking funeral
shit. Hold up, one more time.
558
00:29:21,847 --> 00:29:23,065
Now move it to here.
559
00:29:23,109 --> 00:29:25,285
[wordlessly sings]
560
00:29:25,328 --> 00:29:27,591
I just really liked those bass
notes alone, you know.
561
00:29:27,635 --> 00:29:29,332
[sings a low note]
562
00:29:30,725 --> 00:29:32,422
Okay, vocals time.
563
00:29:33,162 --> 00:29:37,819
♪ What even was it
That I thought would last ♪
564
00:29:39,212 --> 00:29:40,779
♪ Would last
565
00:29:42,476 --> 00:29:43,999
♪ Would last
566
00:29:45,696 --> 00:29:47,307
♪ Would last
567
00:29:49,831 --> 00:29:52,616
[piano music]
568
00:30:01,669 --> 00:30:02,757
Cool.
569
00:30:03,932 --> 00:30:05,412
That ties that bit together.
570
00:30:05,455 --> 00:30:08,894
♪ Ghosts of the forest
571
00:30:11,635 --> 00:30:12,854
Slower, louder.
572
00:30:12,898 --> 00:30:15,857
♪ Ghosts of the forest
573
00:30:15,901 --> 00:30:17,076
No, I hate that.
574
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:18,468
-It's way too...
-It's horrible.
575
00:30:18,512 --> 00:30:20,557
-[haunting melody]
-Yeah.
576
00:30:20,601 --> 00:30:22,603
That's good.
577
00:30:22,646 --> 00:30:24,431
So that's just...
It's coming up on the synth.
578
00:30:24,474 --> 00:30:25,911
Okay, okay.
579
00:30:25,954 --> 00:30:30,654
[echoing]
♪ Ghosts of the forest
580
00:30:31,699 --> 00:30:34,093
[Trey] It's like a creepy
ice cream truck or something.
581
00:30:34,136 --> 00:30:37,183
Just go. Yeah. Try it again.
Try it again.
582
00:30:39,228 --> 00:30:40,490
[piano music]
583
00:30:48,759 --> 00:30:50,849
-Fucking awesome, man.
-It's great.
584
00:30:50,892 --> 00:30:55,331
Talking about things
I've never done before? This.
585
00:30:57,464 --> 00:31:00,902
Like this kind of an album.
586
00:31:00,946 --> 00:31:03,513
Like, emotional, spacious...
587
00:31:03,557 --> 00:31:06,429
We're like the playing band.
[trills notes]
588
00:31:07,517 --> 00:31:09,041
Like, the way that it's...
589
00:31:09,084 --> 00:31:10,694
I don't know,
things just go where they go.
590
00:31:10,738 --> 00:31:12,566
I can't vouch for anything.
591
00:31:12,609 --> 00:31:14,568
You know, like I said,
it's gonna just roll forward
592
00:31:14,611 --> 00:31:16,875
and all of a sudden one day
it's gonna be like "It's done!"
593
00:31:16,918 --> 00:31:18,441
Whatever it may be.
594
00:31:18,485 --> 00:31:20,182
This might just be like
a guidepost to something
595
00:31:20,226 --> 00:31:22,141
that gets played live,
who fucking knows?
596
00:31:22,184 --> 00:31:23,794
I just can't tell.
597
00:31:23,838 --> 00:31:27,059
This is not what I expected,
and I'm liking it.
598
00:31:28,408 --> 00:31:30,889
♪ I know you know
That you are me ♪
599
00:31:30,932 --> 00:31:32,455
♪ And I am you
600
00:31:32,499 --> 00:31:34,196
♪ And we are here
601
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,329
♪ And you're the one
To take me down ♪
602
00:31:36,372 --> 00:31:37,896
♪ So take me down
603
00:31:37,939 --> 00:31:39,071
♪ Take me down
604
00:31:39,114 --> 00:31:40,289
♪ My lips
605
00:31:40,333 --> 00:31:44,163
♪ The cool air pushes me down
606
00:31:44,206 --> 00:31:45,773
♪ In a rush
607
00:31:45,816 --> 00:31:47,601
♪ I turn my head
608
00:31:50,082 --> 00:31:51,474
♪ And you know why
609
00:31:51,518 --> 00:31:52,649
♪ That you are me
610
00:31:52,693 --> 00:31:54,129
♪ And I am you
611
00:31:54,173 --> 00:31:56,784
♪ And we are here
612
00:31:56,827 --> 00:31:59,526
♪ You caught my eye
And if I'm gone ♪
613
00:31:59,569 --> 00:32:01,180
♪ Now let it all be you
614
00:32:01,223 --> 00:32:03,051
All right, get ready,
cause we're going.
615
00:32:07,099 --> 00:32:08,404
Oh, man, I remember all this.
616
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,454
It's making me a little bit,
almost, like, nervous.
617
00:32:15,411 --> 00:32:16,543
Like walking.
618
00:32:19,372 --> 00:32:21,765
Like, walking into this house,
619
00:32:21,809 --> 00:32:25,160
where I haven't been
in 15 years.
620
00:32:25,204 --> 00:32:27,075
It's like...
621
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:31,297
It's where my kids grew up.
Just sort of... [gasps]
622
00:32:34,996 --> 00:32:37,956
♪ Ghosts of the forest
623
00:32:37,999 --> 00:32:41,002
I'm really feeling it now,
624
00:32:41,046 --> 00:32:42,961
the whole ghosts
of the forest thing.
625
00:32:44,005 --> 00:32:47,835
'Cause I used to hang out
back here a lot.
626
00:32:47,878 --> 00:32:50,272
Like, I always walked to
the barn through the woods.
627
00:32:51,404 --> 00:32:52,753
I think I see it.
628
00:32:59,368 --> 00:33:02,981
I could just knock on the door
and say, "Can I look inside?"
629
00:33:09,291 --> 00:33:13,252
I put that basketball hoop up.
630
00:33:18,213 --> 00:33:21,129
I feel like a creeper
looking at this guy's house.
631
00:33:21,173 --> 00:33:24,132
Hello! Sorry we're walking
through your woods.
632
00:33:24,176 --> 00:33:26,221
-Hi, I'm Trey. Nice to meet you.
-How you doing?
633
00:33:26,265 --> 00:33:27,962
-You used to own this house.
-I did.
634
00:33:28,006 --> 00:33:29,355
I didn't mean to, like,
be creeping you out,
635
00:33:29,398 --> 00:33:30,747
walking through your woods.
636
00:33:30,791 --> 00:33:32,793
It's Vermont,
we're pretty casual.
637
00:33:32,836 --> 00:33:34,534
-We were just like walking--
-You had a camera crew.
638
00:33:34,577 --> 00:33:36,275
You couldn't have been
up to too much.
639
00:33:36,318 --> 00:33:37,537
-No.
-[both laughing]
640
00:33:37,580 --> 00:33:39,539
-Hi!
-Hi!
641
00:33:39,582 --> 00:33:40,888
I'm Trey.
642
00:33:40,931 --> 00:33:42,890
We met at South End
Kitchen one day.
643
00:33:42,933 --> 00:33:44,631
-Yes! I remember that!
-And we talked about our house--
644
00:33:44,674 --> 00:33:46,763
-Oh, my God! We've met!
-Yes. Welcome.
645
00:33:46,807 --> 00:33:49,462
-Is this freaking you out? Okay.
-Not a bit.
646
00:33:49,505 --> 00:33:50,854
If this isn't
freaking you out...
647
00:33:50,898 --> 00:33:52,900
-No, no, no.
-Going out to get dinner.
648
00:33:52,943 --> 00:33:56,686
So great that you guys got the
garden and the chickens going.
649
00:33:56,730 --> 00:33:58,601
-We're trying.
-I love this house.
650
00:33:58,645 --> 00:34:00,429
I love this house.
Why don't you guys come in?
651
00:34:00,473 --> 00:34:02,605
-[Trey mumbling]
-C'mon, come in.
652
00:34:02,649 --> 00:34:05,565
Oh my God. [gasps]
653
00:34:05,608 --> 00:34:08,046
Thank you
for letting me look at this.
654
00:34:08,089 --> 00:34:09,960
I'm taking these off.
655
00:34:10,004 --> 00:34:11,962
Hi! I used to live here.
656
00:34:12,006 --> 00:34:14,313
-[boy] You're Trey.
-Yeah, I play in Phish.
657
00:34:14,356 --> 00:34:18,621
Opal, she goes to my school too
and she's in my grade.
658
00:34:18,665 --> 00:34:21,276
And she told me
you guys used to live here.
659
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,235
I was like, "Wow!"
660
00:34:23,713 --> 00:34:27,413
Did you guys have
the room, like, upstairs?
661
00:34:27,456 --> 00:34:29,502
That was sort of
like my little studio.
662
00:34:29,545 --> 00:34:32,200
-Like, I had a...
-[all laughing]
663
00:34:32,244 --> 00:34:35,551
I had a soundboard in there
and I used to write songs.
664
00:34:35,595 --> 00:34:37,379
Cool.
665
00:34:37,423 --> 00:34:39,642
Did you play any of the songs
that you've written there?
666
00:34:39,686 --> 00:34:41,601
[Trey] Oh yeah!
667
00:34:41,644 --> 00:34:43,907
Some of the biggest Phish songs
were written up in that room.
668
00:34:43,951 --> 00:34:45,822
Because that's the room
with a really good vibe.
669
00:34:45,866 --> 00:34:47,085
I don't know whose
room that is...
670
00:34:47,128 --> 00:34:48,477
-Mine.
-...but whoever it is
671
00:34:48,521 --> 00:34:50,218
-must have a good vibe.
-[Trey laughing]
672
00:34:50,262 --> 00:34:54,135
My daughter was born right here.
673
00:34:54,179 --> 00:34:56,268
[woman] That's the chair
that I sit in at dinner!
674
00:34:56,311 --> 00:34:58,313
-[Trey] Right there.
-[all laughing]
675
00:34:59,227 --> 00:35:00,837
Her crib was right there
676
00:35:00,881 --> 00:35:02,839
because she liked the warmth
of the wood stove.
677
00:35:02,883 --> 00:35:06,452
And so I wrote a song about her,
it's called Billy Breathes.
678
00:35:06,495 --> 00:35:08,367
That was her nickname,
was Billy. She was so little,
679
00:35:08,410 --> 00:35:10,891
and I was, like, knocked out
by the fact she was breathing.
680
00:35:10,934 --> 00:35:12,197
"Oh, my God!"
681
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:15,113
So I wrote that song
up on that hill.
682
00:35:16,418 --> 00:35:19,378
♪ Time, it seems
In broken dreams ♪
683
00:35:19,421 --> 00:35:22,816
♪ To sleep beside the stair
684
00:35:22,859 --> 00:35:25,645
-♪ Oh
-[upbeat music]
685
00:35:26,472 --> 00:35:29,214
The rest of it's all music.
Rest of it's all the words.
686
00:35:29,257 --> 00:35:31,390
But then there's a lot of music
in the middle,
687
00:35:31,433 --> 00:35:34,523
which is kind of, like,
what Phish does. [laughing]
688
00:35:34,567 --> 00:35:38,745
-Fish crams a lot of music.
-That's very cool. Fantastic.
689
00:35:38,788 --> 00:35:40,573
-You guys got the best house.
-[woman] We know.
690
00:35:43,663 --> 00:35:47,014
That was so kind of you
to let us in here.
691
00:35:47,057 --> 00:35:48,842
We just made our Christmas card,
692
00:35:48,885 --> 00:35:50,539
because that's the only picture
that four of us are in.
693
00:35:50,583 --> 00:35:54,152
You gotta, like, just
black me out. Cross me out.
694
00:35:54,195 --> 00:35:55,762
With this stalker we found
695
00:35:55,805 --> 00:35:57,764
in the middle of October
walking through our woods.
696
00:35:57,807 --> 00:35:59,069
All right, we're going.
697
00:36:01,376 --> 00:36:04,205
[guitar music]
698
00:36:17,175 --> 00:36:20,395
Morning Mike,
I love being at your old house.
699
00:36:20,439 --> 00:36:22,963
-How are you doing?
-Good.
700
00:36:23,006 --> 00:36:25,313
Jared turned me on to this.
It's five loopers,
701
00:36:25,357 --> 00:36:27,097
and one's to use with your hand.
702
00:36:27,141 --> 00:36:28,664
And you can instantly shorten
them and lengthen them
703
00:36:28,708 --> 00:36:31,145
-and add effects.
-It's a Kaossilator?
704
00:36:31,189 --> 00:36:34,192
It's just like a standard
Boss looper.
705
00:36:35,236 --> 00:36:37,760
-Got the classic 808 too.
-[Trey] What is that?
706
00:36:37,804 --> 00:36:41,503
That's... This is what,
like, all the classic...
707
00:36:41,547 --> 00:36:43,201
The first hip-hop songs
were all made on this.
708
00:36:43,244 --> 00:36:44,593
[Trey] Really?
709
00:36:44,637 --> 00:36:46,552
But it's old school.
710
00:36:47,944 --> 00:36:50,295
[bass music]
711
00:36:52,297 --> 00:36:53,733
What do all these knobs do?
712
00:36:59,304 --> 00:37:01,741
[techno music]
713
00:37:12,142 --> 00:37:13,927
[laughter]
714
00:37:18,845 --> 00:37:20,281
[Trey] So it goes...
715
00:37:20,325 --> 00:37:23,589
♪ And the ocean is love
716
00:37:23,632 --> 00:37:25,852
♪ And everybody's reaching
717
00:37:25,895 --> 00:37:27,201
Now it goes... Right there.
718
00:37:27,245 --> 00:37:29,029
It goes
to the outro progression.
719
00:37:29,072 --> 00:37:30,160
Okay.
720
00:37:30,204 --> 00:37:32,380
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah
721
00:37:32,424 --> 00:37:34,121
E to G.
722
00:37:35,949 --> 00:37:38,778
When we go to F sharp,
they've turned the sail.
723
00:37:38,821 --> 00:37:41,128
Like, with your bass,
you're, like, turning the sail.
724
00:37:42,172 --> 00:37:43,261
-It's huge.
-Okay.
725
00:37:43,304 --> 00:37:44,827
And you go... [wordless singing]
726
00:37:44,871 --> 00:37:48,135
And Fish is like...
[wordless singing]
727
00:37:54,141 --> 00:37:55,273
That F sharp...
728
00:38:00,365 --> 00:38:02,889
And then the whole thing is
starting to turn backwards now.
729
00:38:02,932 --> 00:38:04,282
Facing the back of the Garden.
730
00:38:04,325 --> 00:38:05,979
And the guys
are pulling the ropes
731
00:38:06,022 --> 00:38:09,809
and the fans are filling
the sail with wind. [laughs]
732
00:38:26,042 --> 00:38:28,915
-Done! [laughs]
-Yeah, that's awesome.
733
00:38:29,872 --> 00:38:31,526
[Trey] This is where
you are decluttering?
734
00:38:31,570 --> 00:38:33,354
I'm just kinda like piecing
things chronologically
735
00:38:33,398 --> 00:38:35,008
and then throwing
a lot out, so...
736
00:38:35,748 --> 00:38:38,446
[Trey] You're not gonna throw
that out.
737
00:38:39,404 --> 00:38:41,319
Look at this, man.
Look at how close we used to be.
738
00:38:41,362 --> 00:38:43,190
Yeah.
739
00:38:43,233 --> 00:38:44,887
[Trey] I see videos from this
period of time occasionally.
740
00:38:44,931 --> 00:38:47,629
And me and you are so physically
in sync.
741
00:38:47,673 --> 00:38:48,891
-It's like one person.
-Yeah.
742
00:38:48,935 --> 00:38:50,153
And it makes me sad
that you're so far away.
743
00:38:50,197 --> 00:38:51,416
The tab behind the beat.
744
00:38:51,459 --> 00:38:52,852
I'm so happy that the sound
745
00:38:52,895 --> 00:38:54,288
is so good on stage
that it's okay,
746
00:38:54,332 --> 00:38:55,898
but I kinda want to walk
over next to you.
747
00:38:55,942 --> 00:38:58,510
-Look at this from--
-Look at Fish!
748
00:38:58,553 --> 00:39:00,207
In a dress!
749
00:39:00,250 --> 00:39:02,427
-Speaking of New Year's...
-That's at the Dude show.
750
00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:05,517
Oh, that is great.
Please bring that back.
751
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,649
[Mike] At least for Halloween.
It's pumpkins.
752
00:39:07,693 --> 00:39:09,085
[Trey] You look like you could
be in, like,
753
00:39:09,129 --> 00:39:10,739
an amazing '80s band.
754
00:39:10,783 --> 00:39:12,480
What are you doing
with all these? Can you send--
755
00:39:12,524 --> 00:39:14,352
[Mike] I'm just putting them
chronologically.
756
00:39:14,395 --> 00:39:16,963
[Trey] Are you sending them
to Shapiro?
757
00:39:17,006 --> 00:39:18,530
[Mike] This is Kevin.
See these here?
758
00:39:18,573 --> 00:39:20,009
-This is all Kevin here.
-Throw that shit out, dude.
759
00:39:20,053 --> 00:39:21,228
[Mike]
Well, some of it's just crappy.
760
00:39:21,271 --> 00:39:22,838
[Trey] Oh my God.
761
00:39:22,882 --> 00:39:25,101
-Is that the Clifford Ball?
-It's one of the first one, 97.
762
00:39:25,145 --> 00:39:27,060
-Oh, Clifford Ball is 96.
-[Trey] That's a great one.
763
00:39:27,103 --> 00:39:29,367
That's a great one.
Look at that picture.
764
00:39:30,368 --> 00:39:31,891
[Mike] Not bad
for our second festival.
765
00:39:31,934 --> 00:39:33,893
[Trey] That was not bad
for our second festival.
766
00:39:35,155 --> 00:39:37,200
[cheerful music]
767
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:03,575
[laughing]
768
00:40:11,147 --> 00:40:14,629
Good dog!
You like music, don't you?
769
00:40:15,543 --> 00:40:16,892
[cheerful music]
770
00:40:25,074 --> 00:40:27,686
[Trey] This album
is a lot more personal.
771
00:40:27,729 --> 00:40:30,166
There's a lot of fear
and confusion in this album.
772
00:40:30,210 --> 00:40:31,516
And sadness.
773
00:40:33,213 --> 00:40:35,476
And I'm not even close to done,
and I'm already getting
774
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,173
to the point where,
like, some days I put it on
775
00:40:37,217 --> 00:40:38,827
and I'm like "I hate this."
776
00:40:38,871 --> 00:40:40,525
And the next day,
I'm like, "Oh, this is okay."
777
00:40:40,568 --> 00:40:45,225
I'm kind of a little bit lost
at sea in that way,
778
00:40:45,268 --> 00:40:46,226
to be perfectly honest.
779
00:40:47,357 --> 00:40:49,534
I want to be alive
and in the moment,
780
00:40:49,577 --> 00:40:51,579
like, in the now.
You know what I mean?
781
00:40:54,539 --> 00:40:56,845
[guitar music]
782
00:41:01,241 --> 00:41:05,201
♪ Blue morning
Walking down the street ♪
783
00:41:05,245 --> 00:41:07,769
♪ Hear the rhythm
From the soles of my feet ♪
784
00:41:07,813 --> 00:41:11,120
♪ On the pavement
And I reach out my hands ♪
785
00:41:11,164 --> 00:41:14,472
♪ And touch the building
That's beside me ♪
786
00:41:15,385 --> 00:41:18,476
♪ I look into the air
Up above my head ♪
787
00:41:18,519 --> 00:41:22,436
♪ A thin layer of clouds
And the open sky ♪
788
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,526
♪ All the stars
Are handles on doors ♪
789
00:41:25,570 --> 00:41:27,528
♪ If I could touch them
With my fingers ♪
790
00:41:27,572 --> 00:41:28,921
♪ They would open up
791
00:41:28,964 --> 00:41:30,966
♪ The sea of love
792
00:41:31,010 --> 00:41:34,274
♪ Ruby waves
Rolling down on my head ♪
793
00:41:36,058 --> 00:41:42,543
♪ Ocean of love would carry me
Up from this prison of lies ♪
794
00:41:42,587 --> 00:41:46,286
♪ If I could touch the stars
With my fingertips ♪
795
00:41:46,329 --> 00:41:49,681
♪ The doors would open
All around me ♪
796
00:41:49,724 --> 00:41:52,901
♪ Gonna escape
From this prison of lies ♪
797
00:41:52,945 --> 00:41:56,905
♪ Escape from
This prison of lies ♪
798
00:41:56,949 --> 00:42:00,561
♪ Gonna escape
From this prison of lies ♪
799
00:42:08,003 --> 00:42:10,353
Still has gone nowhere.
800
00:42:10,397 --> 00:42:11,616
[guitar music]
801
00:42:17,317 --> 00:42:19,493
That might actually
be good with drums.
802
00:42:19,537 --> 00:42:20,712
[drumming music]
803
00:42:37,293 --> 00:42:38,512
[music continues]
804
00:42:53,571 --> 00:42:55,355
♪ Prison of lies
805
00:42:55,398 --> 00:42:58,576
♪ Gonna escape
From this prison of lies ♪
806
00:43:12,677 --> 00:43:13,765
Tony?
807
00:43:14,983 --> 00:43:16,332
That's a keeper.
808
00:43:25,951 --> 00:43:28,606
[Trey] When I was a kid,
I was lucky enough that my dad
809
00:43:28,649 --> 00:43:30,738
wanted to coach me in hockey.
810
00:43:30,782 --> 00:43:33,219
At the same time,
he was very intense,
811
00:43:33,262 --> 00:43:35,743
and there was a lot of pressure.
812
00:43:35,787 --> 00:43:38,877
I just wanted to please him,
and there were times when I felt
813
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,183
like that was
an unachievable goal.
814
00:43:44,970 --> 00:43:48,538
-Where are we going, dad?
-Bent Spoon for ice cream.
815
00:43:48,582 --> 00:43:50,628
I'll take a little Bent Spoon.
816
00:43:50,671 --> 00:43:52,630
[Trey] Then I got older
817
00:43:52,673 --> 00:43:54,632
and I started to see that
everything I learned from him
818
00:43:54,675 --> 00:43:58,331
taught me how to live. I mean,
he taught me to see a goal
819
00:43:58,374 --> 00:44:00,420
and achieve it step by step.
820
00:44:00,463 --> 00:44:03,553
He taught me to be in a team,
which is what being a band is.
821
00:44:04,685 --> 00:44:06,992
And I'm so grateful
to him for that now.
822
00:44:07,601 --> 00:44:10,560
You know, I hope I was
a good dad to my kids.
823
00:44:10,604 --> 00:44:12,562
[Ernie]
And we'll park here. Perfect.
824
00:44:13,259 --> 00:44:14,652
I'll take care of the meter.
825
00:44:14,695 --> 00:44:16,741
You do not want to get
a parking ticket.
826
00:44:16,784 --> 00:44:17,959
They are $45.
827
00:44:18,438 --> 00:44:19,961
[man in background]
Welcome home, Trey.
828
00:44:20,005 --> 00:44:22,660
[Trey] Hey, how's it going?
Nice to see ya.
829
00:44:23,269 --> 00:44:27,012
-This happens all the time.
-Hi, nice to see you.
830
00:44:27,055 --> 00:44:29,318
Oh Jesus,
this is fucking insane.
831
00:44:29,362 --> 00:44:30,885
Hi Sammy, I'm Trey.
Nice to meet you.
832
00:44:31,843 --> 00:44:34,672
[Ernie]
This happens all the time.
833
00:44:34,715 --> 00:44:36,238
-[Trey] Thank you so much.
-Thank you.
834
00:44:36,282 --> 00:44:38,023
-Have a good time.
-Have a nice day.
835
00:44:38,066 --> 00:44:39,851
-Nice to meet you.
-Bye, nice to meet you too.
836
00:44:40,634 --> 00:44:42,636
[Ernie] Mmm.
837
00:44:43,245 --> 00:44:44,594
Mm. Good.
838
00:44:45,291 --> 00:44:49,077
The one thing
that I really wanted for you
839
00:44:49,121 --> 00:44:50,644
was a bachelor's degree,
840
00:44:50,688 --> 00:44:53,995
because I thought
if Phish didn't work out,
841
00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:55,693
the bachelor's degree
would give you
842
00:44:55,736 --> 00:44:57,172
more flexibility as a musician.
843
00:44:57,216 --> 00:44:58,608
You could teach if you chose to.
844
00:44:58,652 --> 00:44:59,740
Right.
845
00:45:01,046 --> 00:45:06,051
What I didn't want was for you
to be restricted
846
00:45:06,094 --> 00:45:08,401
by not having a degree.
Of course, it all turned out
847
00:45:08,444 --> 00:45:10,098
to be moot,
because who cares now?
848
00:45:10,142 --> 00:45:11,839
Right, right.
849
00:45:11,883 --> 00:45:15,190
But back in
the Kenny's Castaways days.
850
00:45:15,234 --> 00:45:18,280
I wasn't certain
it was gonna work out.
851
00:45:18,324 --> 00:45:21,675
If you thought any differently,
you would be insane.
852
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,546
Yeah, of course.
853
00:45:23,590 --> 00:45:27,028
The night where I really became
aware of the phenomenon...
854
00:45:27,072 --> 00:45:29,683
-Yeah.
-...was The Paradise in Boston.
855
00:45:29,727 --> 00:45:31,816
-Right.
-When we showed up there
856
00:45:31,859 --> 00:45:35,558
and the street was blocked off,
and there were 5,000 kids
857
00:45:35,602 --> 00:45:39,171
in the street trying to get
in an 800 capacity club.
858
00:45:39,214 --> 00:45:41,042
That night, it was clear
859
00:45:41,086 --> 00:45:43,784
that you actually
were building something...
860
00:45:43,828 --> 00:45:45,699
Right, right.
861
00:45:45,743 --> 00:45:48,267
...that had legs.
862
00:45:48,310 --> 00:45:53,576
Now. Did I ever think you could
be at MSG 54 times? No.
863
00:45:53,620 --> 00:45:55,491
You know,
everything turned out great.
864
00:45:55,535 --> 00:46:00,192
-There were challenges.
-What were the challenges?
865
00:46:00,235 --> 00:46:02,194
I'm trying
to think of questions.
866
00:46:03,848 --> 00:46:07,852
There was one major challenge.
Your health.
867
00:46:07,895 --> 00:46:09,157
Which you dealt with.
868
00:46:09,201 --> 00:46:11,333
Right, right.
869
00:46:11,377 --> 00:46:14,467
After the arrest,
870
00:46:15,642 --> 00:46:18,427
the drug court and all
that other kind of stuff,
871
00:46:18,471 --> 00:46:20,690
it turned out
exactly as it should have.
872
00:46:22,736 --> 00:46:24,782
Let me borrow
one of your napkins.
873
00:46:26,174 --> 00:46:27,567
I remember--
874
00:46:27,610 --> 00:46:30,831
I'm talking about
more, like, the Taft era.
875
00:46:32,311 --> 00:46:33,660
And then, you know,
like, I came home,
876
00:46:33,703 --> 00:46:35,183
we were living in the condo
877
00:46:35,227 --> 00:46:37,098
and I had people
in the basement...
878
00:46:37,142 --> 00:46:38,839
I remember that.
879
00:46:39,622 --> 00:46:42,843
I have fond memories
of those six months when
880
00:46:42,887 --> 00:46:44,453
-we were living in the condo.
-Right. I do too.
881
00:46:44,497 --> 00:46:46,281
We didn't have
any big conflicts.
882
00:46:46,325 --> 00:46:48,849
No, actually, no. I don't
remember it that way at all.
883
00:46:48,893 --> 00:46:50,546
I actually have
nice memories about that.
884
00:46:50,590 --> 00:46:53,636
We used to have
four Brown 'N Serve sausages,
885
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,029
a slice of American cheese
886
00:46:55,073 --> 00:46:56,074
and an English muffin
for breakfast.
887
00:46:56,117 --> 00:46:57,902
And then for dinner we had
888
00:46:57,945 --> 00:47:01,906
four Hebrew National hot dogs,
a slice of American cheese
889
00:47:01,949 --> 00:47:03,516
and an English muffin.
890
00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:06,345
I have great memories of that.
I loved that.
891
00:47:06,388 --> 00:47:08,390
And we had
iceberg lettuce salads
892
00:47:08,434 --> 00:47:10,392
with Good Seasons dressing.
893
00:47:10,436 --> 00:47:12,699
He's right. There were no women
around to tell us not to do it.
894
00:47:12,742 --> 00:47:14,875
There were no women, no.
895
00:47:15,484 --> 00:47:18,618
[Ernie] Some of the fondest
memories I have from then
896
00:47:18,661 --> 00:47:21,577
it's the night we watched
The Day Afteron TV,
897
00:47:21,621 --> 00:47:24,580
you went downstairs and started
to compose "Divided Sky."
898
00:47:24,624 --> 00:47:27,627
I have
very vivid memories of all that,
899
00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:33,763
and it's one of my favorite
things you do today.
900
00:47:33,807 --> 00:47:35,940
I was proud of you
before anybody knew
901
00:47:35,983 --> 00:47:37,724
who you were other than me.
902
00:47:39,987 --> 00:47:41,075
Truly.
903
00:47:42,729 --> 00:47:44,078
Very proud of you
904
00:47:46,254 --> 00:47:47,777
and all you've done.
905
00:47:48,822 --> 00:47:52,086
As a father and a citizen,
I'm as proud of you
906
00:47:52,130 --> 00:47:55,481
for that kind of thing as I am
for you as a musician,
907
00:47:55,524 --> 00:47:58,049
for being a good father,
a husband
908
00:47:58,092 --> 00:48:00,094
and all those kinds of things.
909
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:06,187
You are the best role model,
I have to say.
910
00:48:07,362 --> 00:48:09,930
The hardest thing
in my relationship with grandpa
911
00:48:09,974 --> 00:48:14,587
was my failure
to learn how to communicate
912
00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:18,808
with him when I was younger
in ways that reflected
913
00:48:18,852 --> 00:48:21,855
what my real needs were
or my problems were.
914
00:48:21,899 --> 00:48:24,684
I didn't know how to do it.
I didn't have the mechanism
915
00:48:24,727 --> 00:48:27,905
of vocabulary,
or experience or insight.
916
00:48:27,948 --> 00:48:30,908
[Trey] Do you feel like
he put lot of pressure on you?
917
00:48:30,951 --> 00:48:33,649
-A busload of pressure on you.
-Yeah, in the same way
918
00:48:33,693 --> 00:48:35,477
I put pressure on you.
919
00:48:35,521 --> 00:48:41,135
I would find ways
to rationalize it or defend it,
920
00:48:41,179 --> 00:48:43,224
account for it, but yeah.
921
00:48:46,532 --> 00:48:50,101
You know, when you think about
the rigorous practices--
922
00:48:50,144 --> 00:48:51,972
Well, I mean... Go ahead.
923
00:48:52,016 --> 00:48:56,672
I put a lot of pressure
that was probably
924
00:48:56,716 --> 00:49:01,199
motivated in the right way,
but executed in the wrong way.
925
00:49:01,242 --> 00:49:05,072
Never putting myself
in your shoes.
926
00:49:05,116 --> 00:49:08,119
Because if I had for a minute,
I might have understood
927
00:49:08,162 --> 00:49:11,209
that I was communicating
in a more harsh way
928
00:49:11,252 --> 00:49:12,732
or more demanding way
929
00:49:12,775 --> 00:49:14,690
or a more deliberate way
than was necessary.
930
00:49:14,734 --> 00:49:16,431
Right.
931
00:49:16,475 --> 00:49:21,219
So today, 77 years old,
I would behave in different ways
932
00:49:21,262 --> 00:49:24,048
than I did
when I was 23 years old.
933
00:49:24,091 --> 00:49:26,006
Right.
934
00:49:26,050 --> 00:49:28,574
I don't beat myself up about it
so much that I'm depressed,
935
00:49:28,617 --> 00:49:30,489
but I think about it.
936
00:49:33,318 --> 00:49:34,710
[uplifting music]
937
00:49:44,894 --> 00:49:46,374
[Sue] Citified by then.
938
00:49:46,418 --> 00:49:49,029
You're too cool for school.
939
00:49:49,073 --> 00:49:51,075
[Trey] Do you remember
how fun it was
940
00:49:51,118 --> 00:49:54,034
taking our daughters
on tour every summer?
941
00:49:54,078 --> 00:49:55,993
-[Sue] It was the best.
-Wasn't that incredible?
942
00:49:56,036 --> 00:49:58,038
It was my favorite family times.
943
00:49:58,082 --> 00:50:00,432
On the bus,
five or six weeks, at least,
944
00:50:00,475 --> 00:50:02,347
across the country and back.
945
00:50:02,390 --> 00:50:06,090
And it was amazing. Locked
in a bus, you know, at that age.
946
00:50:06,133 --> 00:50:08,875
-[Trey] Yes.
-[Sue] It was very special.
947
00:50:11,269 --> 00:50:12,792
And then remember the Star Trek?
948
00:50:12,835 --> 00:50:15,490
We had Star Trekrunning
all the time,
949
00:50:15,534 --> 00:50:17,318
so whenever you got on the bus,
950
00:50:17,362 --> 00:50:19,016
-it sounded like the Enterprise.
-Oh, yeah. We had the DVD series
951
00:50:19,059 --> 00:50:20,756
"Do you guys watch Star Trek
every night?"
952
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,497
-[beeping]
-Every tour had it's own...
953
00:50:22,541 --> 00:50:24,630
-There was a Star Trektour.
-That was great.
954
00:50:24,673 --> 00:50:26,414
There was
a Lord of the Ringstour,
955
00:50:26,458 --> 00:50:28,025
-the Doctor Whotour.
-I loved that.
956
00:50:29,591 --> 00:50:31,245
From the get-go,
we started dating.
957
00:50:31,289 --> 00:50:32,812
-Like the first time you had--
-[Trey] I remember that.
958
00:50:32,855 --> 00:50:34,727
After our first date,
we went to Nectar's
959
00:50:34,770 --> 00:50:37,817
and the next day, I had to do,
like, a six-day Southern tour.
960
00:50:37,860 --> 00:50:39,210
[Sue] Right.
961
00:50:39,253 --> 00:50:41,255
[Trey]
I don't remember any blowback
962
00:50:41,299 --> 00:50:42,430
from you ever about that.
963
00:50:42,474 --> 00:50:43,997
[Sue] No.
964
00:50:44,041 --> 00:50:46,347
[Trey] Probably almost like
the opposite.
965
00:50:46,391 --> 00:50:48,088
Were you were kinda like,
"Go, go, have a good time."
966
00:50:48,132 --> 00:50:50,308
-You've been home a while.
-Yeah, no, I--
967
00:50:50,351 --> 00:50:51,744
Something to do.
968
00:50:51,787 --> 00:50:53,137
Yeah. "Don't you have
something to do?"
969
00:50:55,661 --> 00:50:58,490
"Don't you have some tour
to go on?"
970
00:51:00,883 --> 00:51:03,495
Lily's been having fun,
for the most part.
971
00:51:03,538 --> 00:51:06,237
A couple moments.
[laughs] So fun.
972
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,848
A couple not fun moments.
973
00:51:08,891 --> 00:51:10,458
No fun due.
974
00:51:10,502 --> 00:51:14,549
You know, you were using,
975
00:51:14,593 --> 00:51:17,030
and I was drinking a lot.
It was it was all part
976
00:51:17,074 --> 00:51:20,686
of the social anxiety.
It was my way too of managing
977
00:51:20,729 --> 00:51:22,209
that whole craziness.
978
00:51:22,253 --> 00:51:24,342
So when all that went away,
it was just...
979
00:51:26,083 --> 00:51:27,301
You know?
980
00:51:27,345 --> 00:51:29,042
Yeah.
981
00:51:29,086 --> 00:51:31,697
I don't know what...
You would have died, I think.
982
00:51:31,740 --> 00:51:33,960
I thought you were going to die
the night got arrested.
983
00:51:34,003 --> 00:51:35,527
That's what I thought
when the phone rang
984
00:51:35,570 --> 00:51:37,616
at 4 in the morning,
"Well, this is it."
985
00:51:38,486 --> 00:51:40,880
Very fortunate, very grateful.
986
00:51:43,274 --> 00:51:44,362
You know?
987
00:51:44,405 --> 00:51:45,580
Yeah.
988
00:51:48,409 --> 00:51:54,285
[Trey] Did you ever regret
marrying me?
989
00:51:54,328 --> 00:51:55,416
No.
990
00:51:57,766 --> 00:52:01,509
No. No, really!
991
00:52:03,555 --> 00:52:06,166
[Trey] In my mind, like,
everything had like gone...
992
00:52:06,210 --> 00:52:07,559
-[growls harshly]
-[Sue] Yeah.
993
00:52:07,602 --> 00:52:09,038
[Trey]
It was sort of like, you know,
994
00:52:09,082 --> 00:52:11,519
like I had failed
and I messed up.
995
00:52:11,563 --> 00:52:13,130
-That's how I felt.
-Yeah.
996
00:52:13,173 --> 00:52:15,567
Kinda always felt
you kind of figured that out.
997
00:52:15,610 --> 00:52:18,439
I knew you did. That's why
I knew you wouldn't leave.
998
00:52:18,483 --> 00:52:19,745
[laughing]
999
00:52:24,532 --> 00:52:26,186
I never thought
you would, anyway.
1000
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:28,188
I didn't want to leave,
that's for sure.
1001
00:52:28,232 --> 00:52:29,363
Nope.
1002
00:52:29,407 --> 00:52:30,973
No way. I'm not going anywhere.
1003
00:52:31,017 --> 00:52:33,933
-You're stuck with me.
-I know. You're too lazy.
1004
00:52:35,152 --> 00:52:36,588
[Trey] I'm too lazy.
1005
00:52:38,067 --> 00:52:41,070
[both laughing]
1006
00:52:41,114 --> 00:52:43,595
[Sue] You're too lazy
to go anywhere.
1007
00:52:48,121 --> 00:52:49,209
[soothing music]
1008
00:53:08,663 --> 00:53:10,709
[belting notes]
1009
00:53:16,541 --> 00:53:18,456
[saxophone music]
1010
00:53:18,499 --> 00:53:19,674
[man] Vegan flan.
1011
00:53:21,285 --> 00:53:24,331
[woman] Martian eggs
and non-organic unicorn milk...
1012
00:53:28,596 --> 00:53:30,903
[Trey]
Chris is like a funny guy.
1013
00:53:30,946 --> 00:53:33,035
'Cause he's like
a hard partying,
1014
00:53:33,079 --> 00:53:34,820
gruff mountain man.
1015
00:53:37,388 --> 00:53:40,086
But inside,
he has, like, the biggest heart
1016
00:53:40,129 --> 00:53:41,870
of anybody I've ever met.
1017
00:53:43,307 --> 00:53:45,178
He called me up, he said,
"I just went to the doctor.
1018
00:53:45,222 --> 00:53:48,137
They said I had stage four
adrenal carcinoid cancer."
1019
00:53:48,660 --> 00:53:52,141
It's like a 4% survival rate.
1020
00:53:52,185 --> 00:53:54,840
And you know,
my sister died of cancer.
1021
00:53:56,058 --> 00:53:59,105
You can't think of the 96,
you got to think of the four.
1022
00:53:59,148 --> 00:54:00,541
Four people survived.
1023
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,330
-[Trey] We met when we were 15.
-[Chris] We were 15 at Taft.
1024
00:54:08,114 --> 00:54:11,509
You loved fucking Led Zeppelin.
1025
00:54:12,336 --> 00:54:15,034
[laughter]
1026
00:54:15,077 --> 00:54:16,905
I was way into the Dead.
1027
00:54:16,949 --> 00:54:19,995
I had a fucking big stereo, too.
My stereo was bigger than yours.
1028
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:21,954
Your speakers
were bigger than mine.
1029
00:54:21,997 --> 00:54:24,391
-So I win.
-[both laughing]
1030
00:54:24,435 --> 00:54:26,045
Remember Copenhagen?
1031
00:54:27,002 --> 00:54:28,700
-Remember?
-Right!
1032
00:54:28,743 --> 00:54:31,659
-Did we take a ferry though?
-That was a part of it.
1033
00:54:31,703 --> 00:54:34,009
-Playing hockey.
-'Cause we were like skating
1034
00:54:34,053 --> 00:54:35,446
down the hall.
1035
00:54:35,489 --> 00:54:38,275
Out on the deck of the ferry.
1036
00:54:38,318 --> 00:54:40,015
[whooshing]
1037
00:54:40,059 --> 00:54:42,104
Sock skating around in the dark.
1038
00:54:42,148 --> 00:54:44,324
There was this torrential storm.
1039
00:54:44,368 --> 00:54:48,850
And finally we got to Amsterdam
at, like, seven in the morning.
1040
00:54:48,894 --> 00:54:54,334
He takes two hits of acid out
of his pocket. And he goes...
1041
00:54:54,378 --> 00:54:56,597
I said, "If you are
a true friend of mine,
1042
00:54:56,641 --> 00:54:59,426
you're not gonna
let me do this by my myself."
1043
00:54:59,470 --> 00:55:01,994
As they were sitting
on my tongue.
1044
00:55:02,037 --> 00:55:04,779
It was, like, seven in
the morning. I had a day off
1045
00:55:04,823 --> 00:55:07,695
and I had to play two shows.
And I had been up all night.
1046
00:55:07,739 --> 00:55:09,088
I was like "Ah!"
1047
00:55:10,394 --> 00:55:14,572
-I was like, "Okay."
-"All right, fine."
1048
00:55:14,615 --> 00:55:16,835
So then he gave me
two hits of acid.
1049
00:55:16,878 --> 00:55:18,837
So then the next thing you know,
1050
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,927
we're, like, walking
around Amsterdam
1051
00:55:21,970 --> 00:55:26,801
for, like, a million years.
We rented bicycles.
1052
00:55:27,541 --> 00:55:28,412
[Trey] Oh, yeah.
1053
00:55:32,198 --> 00:55:34,505
There is eons of stories.
1054
00:55:35,288 --> 00:55:36,463
Just...
1055
00:55:37,899 --> 00:55:40,902
I don't know where
to begin or where to end.
1056
00:55:44,689 --> 00:55:45,907
You guys want a dose?
1057
00:55:46,952 --> 00:55:48,606
[laughter]
1058
00:55:48,649 --> 00:55:50,999
Chris has a...
Do you want to tell them
1059
00:55:51,043 --> 00:55:54,263
about the port
where you put liquid acid in?
1060
00:55:54,307 --> 00:55:55,961
He has a port here.
1061
00:55:56,004 --> 00:55:57,310
Fresh edition.
1062
00:55:59,443 --> 00:56:01,401
-Right there.
-That's it.
1063
00:56:01,445 --> 00:56:06,145
[Chris] That's the magic port
for putting...
1064
00:56:07,886 --> 00:56:09,714
[laughter]
1065
00:56:11,368 --> 00:56:12,934
It's way more effective
that way.
1066
00:56:12,978 --> 00:56:15,459
Right into the main line.
The liquid...
1067
00:56:16,851 --> 00:56:18,853
And to think, we spent all
those years putting the liquid
1068
00:56:18,897 --> 00:56:20,551
in our eyeballs.
1069
00:56:20,594 --> 00:56:22,422
-[Chris] Nothing compared--
-Tomorrow we're going
1070
00:56:22,466 --> 00:56:24,729
to the hospital
so I can get a port.
1071
00:56:24,772 --> 00:56:26,774
-'Cause I can't keep up.
-[Chris laughing]
1072
00:56:27,340 --> 00:56:28,689
[somber music]
1073
00:56:38,395 --> 00:56:39,439
[rock music]
1074
00:56:55,237 --> 00:56:56,500
[crowd clapping]
1075
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:03,420
God bless you, Bruce.
Have a beautiful journey.
1076
00:57:03,463 --> 00:57:06,640
Thank you so much.
We all love Bruce Hampton.
1077
00:57:08,337 --> 00:57:09,426
Thank you.
1078
00:57:14,126 --> 00:57:15,257
[crowd cheering]
1079
00:58:34,946 --> 00:58:38,079
[mellow guitar music]
1080
00:59:39,271 --> 00:59:44,493
♪ And why do we have to wait
1081
00:59:45,886 --> 00:59:48,410
♪ Until it's gone
1082
00:59:49,455 --> 00:59:52,850
♪ To know what love is
1083
00:59:57,768 --> 00:59:59,117
[guitar music]
1084
01:00:23,315 --> 01:00:25,012
I thought
that worked pretty good.
1085
01:00:25,056 --> 01:00:26,753
This was good too, yesterday.
1086
01:00:26,797 --> 01:00:30,061
That was good. That was so cool!
1087
01:00:30,104 --> 01:00:31,932
I loved that.
We should do this again.
1088
01:00:31,976 --> 01:00:33,934
The more you get to know it,
the better it's going to get.
1089
01:00:35,806 --> 01:00:37,764
[Trey]
Miles Davis famously said,
1090
01:00:37,808 --> 01:00:41,507
"The hardest thing in music
is sounding like yourself."
1091
01:00:41,550 --> 01:00:43,509
That's what I want this to be.
1092
01:00:43,552 --> 01:00:45,685
I mean, I'll sing it better and
I'll get the words more better.
1093
01:00:45,729 --> 01:00:50,168
I just think it's cool.
The thing is I love it so much.
1094
01:00:50,211 --> 01:00:53,084
I love the process.
I love writing music.
1095
01:00:53,127 --> 01:00:55,608
I love being in the barn
so much.
1096
01:00:56,261 --> 01:00:58,132
Who gets to do this?
1097
01:00:58,176 --> 01:01:00,004
[rock music]
1098
01:01:03,790 --> 01:01:07,968
♪ We move
Through stormy weather ♪
1099
01:01:09,753 --> 01:01:13,844
♪ We know that our days
Are few ♪
1100
01:01:15,933 --> 01:01:19,980
♪ We dream and we struggle
Together ♪
1101
01:01:22,069 --> 01:01:25,943
♪ And love will carry us
Through ♪
1102
01:01:28,336 --> 01:01:32,079
♪ And love will carry us
Through ♪
1103
01:02:02,196 --> 01:02:04,546
[laughing]
1104
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,725
-[Jon] It had its moments.
-[Trey] Fucking shit, man.
1105
01:02:08,768 --> 01:02:10,161
[Jon] That was pretty good.
1106
01:02:10,204 --> 01:02:12,119
[Trey] That second song
is amazing.
1107
01:02:12,163 --> 01:02:14,339
[Jon] That's a great song.
I love that song.
1108
01:02:14,382 --> 01:02:17,472
That whole thing is like,
what a ride.
1109
01:02:17,516 --> 01:02:18,909
That's fucking great, man.
1110
01:02:18,952 --> 01:02:21,215
It just kept
getting better and better.
1111
01:02:21,259 --> 01:02:23,348
Just like, "What the fuck?"
1112
01:02:26,351 --> 01:02:28,919
-[Eliza] It's good.
-[Trey laughing]
1113
01:02:30,747 --> 01:02:33,271
Like, when you and Isabella
are joking
1114
01:02:33,314 --> 01:02:37,188
about, you know, like,
not knowing where I am.
1115
01:02:37,231 --> 01:02:38,798
Do you remember feeling
like that?
1116
01:02:38,842 --> 01:02:40,321
I kinda remember
feeling like that.
1117
01:02:40,365 --> 01:02:41,932
Remember, Isabella
used to, like, scream,
1118
01:02:41,975 --> 01:02:44,499
-and, like, grab your leg?
-She did? Oh, God.
1119
01:02:44,543 --> 01:02:46,110
-You don't remember that?
-I do.
1120
01:02:46,153 --> 01:02:47,807
Oh, my God.
It was a big whoop-dee-do.
1121
01:02:47,851 --> 01:02:49,548
She would hold on to you so
you couldn't get out the door.
1122
01:02:49,591 --> 01:02:50,679
And would scream and scream.
1123
01:02:52,246 --> 01:02:54,553
I always remember, like,
she was the little sister
1124
01:02:54,596 --> 01:02:57,469
and I was the big sister.
So I didn't cry.
1125
01:02:57,512 --> 01:02:59,993
-"Get over it, Isabella."
-Really?
1126
01:03:00,037 --> 01:03:02,169
-Little sister.
-But it was harder for her?
1127
01:03:02,213 --> 01:03:04,041
I think so.
1128
01:03:04,084 --> 01:03:07,566
I guess my memories are kind
of mom-centric, of that time.
1129
01:03:07,609 --> 01:03:10,351
-I was off rocking.
-You were off rocking.
1130
01:03:11,962 --> 01:03:13,615
Don't think
I missed anything important.
1131
01:03:13,659 --> 01:03:14,834
[Eliza scoffs]
1132
01:03:15,661 --> 01:03:18,577
Well, daily stuff.
1133
01:03:24,801 --> 01:03:28,021
There was probably a positive
to it in terms of mom and I...
1134
01:03:28,587 --> 01:03:30,197
I think...
1135
01:03:30,241 --> 01:03:32,809
This sounds weird, but it's not.
She likes the space.
1136
01:03:32,852 --> 01:03:35,246
And I think you do, too,
and your grandmother does.
1137
01:03:35,289 --> 01:03:37,552
-Yeah.
-You like your time alone.
1138
01:03:37,596 --> 01:03:38,902
[Eliza]
I really liked my childhood.
1139
01:03:38,945 --> 01:03:41,600
I actually, like,
I feel really lucky
1140
01:03:41,643 --> 01:03:43,210
about the way I was raised.
1141
01:03:43,254 --> 01:03:45,125
The creative energy was
kinda amazing.
1142
01:03:45,169 --> 01:03:46,779
It was like
you would write musicals
1143
01:03:46,823 --> 01:03:48,128
for us to perform in
1144
01:03:48,172 --> 01:03:50,565
for the family
and it was so cool.
1145
01:03:50,609 --> 01:03:53,090
And you used to dress up
in a costume.
1146
01:03:53,133 --> 01:03:54,874
[laughing]
1147
01:03:54,918 --> 01:03:59,792
-Remember the sleeping fairy?
-Oh, yeah. [laughing]
1148
01:03:59,836 --> 01:04:02,708
-We gutted the TV.
-Yeah. Oh, my God.
1149
01:04:02,751 --> 01:04:04,449
-Yeah.
-Oh, my God.
1150
01:04:04,492 --> 01:04:06,016
-I almost died.
-I know.
1151
01:04:08,018 --> 01:04:11,021
[Eliza] You wanted to turn
the television into a diorama
1152
01:04:11,064 --> 01:04:12,761
because we didn't wanna watch
TV anymore.
1153
01:04:12,805 --> 01:04:16,591
-Right. That was great.
-That was so cool.
1154
01:04:16,635 --> 01:04:19,116
So we're gonna go
into our house here.
1155
01:04:20,465 --> 01:04:22,510
[Trey laughing]
1156
01:04:23,685 --> 01:04:26,166
-[Eliza] What is it really?
-House of Fluff.
1157
01:04:26,210 --> 01:04:27,733
[Eliza] House of Fluffhead.
1158
01:04:27,776 --> 01:04:30,562
[Trey] How's it going?
Nice to meet you.
1159
01:04:30,605 --> 01:04:32,869
It's a trip running into you
right now, I'm 8 days clean.
1160
01:04:32,912 --> 01:04:35,915
-Oh, are you really?
-Yeah.
1161
01:04:35,959 --> 01:04:39,049
Fucking congratulations man.
That's great.
1162
01:04:39,092 --> 01:04:40,746
Hey, Dave. How you doing?
1163
01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:43,531
Just threw out all my syringes
and empty packets.
1164
01:04:43,575 --> 01:04:45,533
-Oh, my God. Fucking A, man.
-[sobbing]
1165
01:04:46,839 --> 01:04:48,275
-You okay?
-Yeah.
1166
01:04:48,319 --> 01:04:50,060
It's just a fucking
emotional day, man.
1167
01:04:50,103 --> 01:04:51,322
-Yeah.
-Yeah.
1168
01:04:52,192 --> 01:04:53,759
-Congratulations.
-Thank you, man.
1169
01:04:53,802 --> 01:04:55,935
-I'm so happy that you stopped.
-Thank you, man.
1170
01:04:55,979 --> 01:04:57,415
-Keep going, man.
-Thanks, man.
1171
01:04:57,458 --> 01:04:59,721
-I don't want these guys...
-Yeah, for sure.
1172
01:04:59,765 --> 01:05:01,723
-Are they still...?
-I'll see you around.
1173
01:05:01,767 --> 01:05:02,942
I'm sorry about this.
1174
01:05:02,986 --> 01:05:04,509
-It's this thing.
-It's okay.
1175
01:05:04,552 --> 01:05:05,466
-Congratulations, man.
-I'll see you on tour.
1176
01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:07,686
Keep going, that's great.
1177
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,784
This is the coolest thing.
1178
01:05:18,827 --> 01:05:20,612
[Eliza] I was just looking
at that, what is that?
1179
01:05:20,655 --> 01:05:22,266
This is my big secret.
1180
01:05:22,309 --> 01:05:23,920
I can't believe
I'm giving away all my secrets.
1181
01:05:24,703 --> 01:05:26,487
[guitar music]
1182
01:05:26,531 --> 01:05:29,360
[Trey] It's gonna be like that.
It's like a texture.
1183
01:05:29,403 --> 01:05:30,535
[Eliza] Yeah.
1184
01:05:32,015 --> 01:05:34,974
-You keep playing melodies.
-Can I push a button?
1185
01:05:35,018 --> 01:05:36,933
[distorted note]
1186
01:05:36,976 --> 01:05:38,935
-[Trey] You hear that?
-Yeah.
1187
01:05:43,504 --> 01:05:44,810
What's "puss"?
1188
01:05:44,853 --> 01:05:46,333
[Trey] Tap, tap.
1189
01:05:47,378 --> 01:05:50,294
-Now it's like...
-[echoing note]
1190
01:05:50,337 --> 01:05:51,469
Whoa.
1191
01:05:53,558 --> 01:05:57,823
Now this is a Leslie speaker.
This is so cool.
1192
01:05:58,650 --> 01:06:00,260
-[tranquil music]
-Whoa.
1193
01:06:10,009 --> 01:06:11,619
Whoa.
1194
01:06:12,446 --> 01:06:13,708
Fast.
1195
01:06:13,752 --> 01:06:15,493
[echoing, distorted note]
1196
01:06:15,536 --> 01:06:16,581
[Eliza] Oh!
1197
01:06:19,758 --> 01:06:23,588
That's my job.
That's dad at work.
1198
01:06:23,631 --> 01:06:24,719
[laughing]
1199
01:06:24,763 --> 01:06:25,982
[Eliza] Okay, I'm gonna leave.
1200
01:06:27,026 --> 01:06:29,289
-I love you so much.
-[Trey] I love you.
1201
01:06:30,682 --> 01:06:33,728
♪ The trumpet call is sounding
1202
01:06:33,772 --> 01:06:36,383
♪ The trees are bending low
1203
01:06:36,427 --> 01:06:39,256
♪ There's a great fire
In the distance ♪
1204
01:06:39,299 --> 01:06:42,085
♪ There must be
Something more than this ♪
1205
01:06:42,128 --> 01:06:44,783
♪ And our shadows
Will all be dancing ♪
1206
01:06:44,826 --> 01:06:47,438
♪ With red dust on our clothes
1207
01:06:47,481 --> 01:06:50,223
♪ When we leave that tornado
1208
01:06:50,267 --> 01:06:53,618
♪ Elbows in the clouds
And feet in the sky ♪
1209
01:06:53,661 --> 01:06:56,664
♪ And we're vibrating
With love and light ♪
1210
01:06:56,708 --> 01:06:59,319
♪ Pulsating with love
And light ♪
1211
01:06:59,363 --> 01:07:02,366
♪ In a world gone mad
A world gone mad ♪
1212
01:07:02,409 --> 01:07:05,804
♪ There must be
Something more than this ♪
1213
01:07:05,847 --> 01:07:07,371
[rock music]
1214
01:07:13,464 --> 01:07:15,770
[Trey] We just finished
The Baker's Dozen,
1215
01:07:15,814 --> 01:07:17,729
and we didn't know when we
walked on stage that at the end
1216
01:07:17,772 --> 01:07:19,905
that they were going
to raise a banner.
1217
01:07:21,124 --> 01:07:24,779
My dad used to take me to hockey
games when I was 10 years old.
1218
01:07:24,823 --> 01:07:26,912
I used to dream
of having my name up
1219
01:07:26,955 --> 01:07:30,437
in the rafters of Madison Square
Garden as a hockey player.
1220
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:33,571
I never would have thought
1221
01:07:33,614 --> 01:07:35,181
that it would be up there
as a musician.
1222
01:07:36,269 --> 01:07:38,358
That's pretty cool.
1223
01:07:38,402 --> 01:07:40,447
♪ There must be
Something more than this ♪
1224
01:07:40,491 --> 01:07:43,929
♪ We're vibrating
With love and light ♪
1225
01:07:43,972 --> 01:07:46,584
♪ Pulsating
With love and light ♪
1226
01:07:46,627 --> 01:07:49,804
♪ In a world gone mad
A world gone mad ♪
1227
01:07:49,848 --> 01:07:53,330
♪ There must be something more
1228
01:08:16,962 --> 01:08:21,053
♪ Love is what we are
1229
01:08:22,794 --> 01:08:25,101
♪ Not something we make
1230
01:08:26,145 --> 01:08:29,453
♪ No one can give it to us
1231
01:08:29,496 --> 01:08:33,109
♪ No one can take it away
1232
01:08:34,327 --> 01:08:37,156
♪ We don't fall in it
1233
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,419
♪ We don't get high on it
1234
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,163
♪ We all hope to find it
1235
01:08:44,207 --> 01:08:47,949
♪ But we don't have to
Look too far ♪
1236
01:08:47,993 --> 01:08:49,908
[Trey] This is where you learned
how to swim.
1237
01:08:49,951 --> 01:08:53,694
♪ 'Cause love is what we are
1238
01:08:53,738 --> 01:08:55,131
God, I love it here.
1239
01:08:57,916 --> 01:09:01,137
I remember when you were, like,
14, like, [unclear] was hard.
1240
01:09:02,312 --> 01:09:04,140
I had you out on tour
a couple times.
1241
01:09:04,183 --> 01:09:06,142
Like, it was just me and you
on the bus.
1242
01:09:06,185 --> 01:09:07,795
We were going around.
1243
01:09:07,839 --> 01:09:09,493
-[Bella] I was 12.
-[Trey] Yeah, you were like...
1244
01:09:09,536 --> 01:09:10,885
[Bella] I was going through
my edgy 12 year old...
1245
01:09:10,929 --> 01:09:12,235
Yeah, you were
an edgy 12 year old.
1246
01:09:12,278 --> 01:09:13,932
You had, like cool,
black clothes.
1247
01:09:13,975 --> 01:09:15,673
I thought you were the coolest
person I'd ever met in my life.
1248
01:09:15,716 --> 01:09:17,805
I loved the way
you dressed and stuff.
1249
01:09:17,849 --> 01:09:20,330
But you were into, like,
your thing, and it wasn't that.
1250
01:09:20,373 --> 01:09:22,201
[Bella]
It wasn't that, Phish, yeah.
1251
01:09:22,245 --> 01:09:24,334
And the crowd
was, like, going "Yeah!"
1252
01:09:24,377 --> 01:09:26,988
And I was walking down
the stairs this one night,
1253
01:09:27,032 --> 01:09:29,077
and you were at the bottom,
it was just me and you,
1254
01:09:29,121 --> 01:09:31,210
I was having
dad-daughter rock tour.
1255
01:09:31,254 --> 01:09:33,125
I was so excited that
you were on the road with me.
1256
01:09:33,169 --> 01:09:34,474
We were both on the bus.
1257
01:09:34,518 --> 01:09:37,390
And you were like,
"I'm so bored!"
1258
01:09:37,434 --> 01:09:40,611
And then you go, "You just
entertained all those people,
1259
01:09:40,654 --> 01:09:42,221
now entertain me!"
1260
01:09:42,265 --> 01:09:45,703
I was kind of dejectedly
walking behind you.
1261
01:09:45,746 --> 01:09:48,227
And they were still cheering,
but I was thinking
1262
01:09:48,271 --> 01:09:52,971
this is such a metaphor for,
like, parenting teenage girls.
1263
01:09:53,014 --> 01:09:56,496
[Bella] It wasn't really weird
until just these past few years
1264
01:09:56,540 --> 01:09:58,977
when I started going
on Phish tour.
1265
01:09:59,020 --> 01:10:01,719
-Right, right, right.
-And now I'm like on Phish tour.
1266
01:10:01,762 --> 01:10:03,677
-Right.
-And like, most of my friends
1267
01:10:03,721 --> 01:10:05,592
outside of Burlington
1268
01:10:05,636 --> 01:10:07,333
are friends that
I made through the scene.
1269
01:10:07,377 --> 01:10:09,074
-[Trey chokes] Yeah.
-[Bella laughing]
1270
01:10:11,511 --> 01:10:13,034
[Trey] I just breathed in a bug.
1271
01:10:15,298 --> 01:10:17,125
-It's really gross.
-[laughing]
1272
01:10:19,345 --> 01:10:22,827
Is there anything you wished
would have been different?
1273
01:10:23,349 --> 01:10:26,004
I had a very happy childhood.
1274
01:10:26,483 --> 01:10:30,313
I was always happy
with you and mom.
1275
01:10:31,314 --> 01:10:33,359
Like, generally all the things
I, like, think about
1276
01:10:33,403 --> 01:10:34,882
that I would have changed
1277
01:10:34,926 --> 01:10:37,015
were, like, my shit, you know.
1278
01:10:38,799 --> 01:10:40,975
And like, I guess, yeah,
you and mom definitely
1279
01:10:41,019 --> 01:10:46,938
weren't amply prepared
to deal with me.
1280
01:10:46,981 --> 01:10:49,114
It was very clear,
like, when I started
1281
01:10:49,157 --> 01:10:50,550
dealing with issues and stuff,
1282
01:10:50,594 --> 01:10:52,509
that you guys
didn't know what to do.
1283
01:10:52,552 --> 01:10:54,206
-Right.
-You were, like,
1284
01:10:54,250 --> 01:10:57,818
"Oh, God," freaking out.
And it worked out, you know.
1285
01:10:58,863 --> 01:11:00,647
So it's all fine. But, like...
1286
01:11:02,214 --> 01:11:04,042
Defiantly in the moment
I was, like,
1287
01:11:04,085 --> 01:11:05,435
I was freaking out,
because I felt like
1288
01:11:05,478 --> 01:11:07,175
I was freaking you guys out.
1289
01:11:07,219 --> 01:11:08,829
Ah.
1290
01:11:08,873 --> 01:11:12,311
I was like, you know,
you guys clearly seemed...
1291
01:11:12,355 --> 01:11:15,662
I think you can't help, that,
like, as a parent, thinking,
1292
01:11:15,706 --> 01:11:17,882
"You know, is it my fault?"
1293
01:11:17,925 --> 01:11:20,928
Or is there things
that, like, you know,
1294
01:11:20,972 --> 01:11:22,887
-"What could I do differently?"
-Yeah.
1295
01:11:22,930 --> 01:11:24,802
Maybe the thing was
I was very, very aware
1296
01:11:24,845 --> 01:11:26,499
of you guys thinking that.
1297
01:11:26,543 --> 01:11:30,111
And I was like,
it just so... hindered you
1298
01:11:30,155 --> 01:11:33,114
from being able to objectively
help me the best that you could
1299
01:11:33,158 --> 01:11:37,684
because you were distracted,
1300
01:11:37,728 --> 01:11:42,689
I guess, by, like, worrying
about being a good dad.
1301
01:11:42,733 --> 01:11:44,212
Right, yeah.
1302
01:11:44,256 --> 01:11:45,779
So, like...
1303
01:11:45,823 --> 01:11:47,303
which, like, wasn't the problem.
1304
01:11:47,346 --> 01:11:48,478
Right, right, right.
1305
01:11:49,827 --> 01:11:51,350
That seems like
a big responsibility, though,
1306
01:11:51,394 --> 01:11:52,656
for you in that moment
1307
01:11:52,699 --> 01:11:55,093
-to be worried about us.
-Yeah.
1308
01:11:55,136 --> 01:11:57,400
You know what I mean?
That doesn't seem fair.
1309
01:11:57,443 --> 01:11:59,097
Like, you had
a lot to think about
1310
01:11:59,140 --> 01:12:01,534
other than worrying about us.
1311
01:12:01,578 --> 01:12:02,753
We were okay.
1312
01:12:02,796 --> 01:12:04,058
[laughing]
1313
01:12:08,236 --> 01:12:11,457
Man, look at this place. Wow.
1314
01:12:12,545 --> 01:12:14,242
I wanna go swimming.
1315
01:12:17,985 --> 01:12:20,379
♪ It's such a beautiful world
1316
01:12:22,425 --> 01:12:23,991
♪ And such a brief time
1317
01:12:32,435 --> 01:12:37,178
♪ It's such a brief time
We get to be here ♪
1318
01:12:37,222 --> 01:12:41,226
♪ All together
As friends they come and go ♪
1319
01:12:41,269 --> 01:12:45,578
♪ We stand in streams of water
And circle round the sun ♪
1320
01:12:45,622 --> 01:12:48,102
♪ Until our time is done
1321
01:12:50,191 --> 01:12:52,542
♪ Until our time is done
1322
01:12:57,895 --> 01:12:59,810
[Trey] It's when your kids
become adults,
1323
01:12:59,853 --> 01:13:02,421
and you see them
becoming adults,
1324
01:13:02,465 --> 01:13:05,032
I started thinking,
"Was I a good father?"
1325
01:13:05,076 --> 01:13:06,860
"Was I there for them?"
1326
01:13:08,427 --> 01:13:11,474
I certainly understand
my own parents more.
1327
01:13:11,517 --> 01:13:13,693
Bella is a senior in college,
1328
01:13:13,737 --> 01:13:16,348
and Eliza's
graduated and working.
1329
01:13:16,392 --> 01:13:18,916
And it reminds me that
that's the age I was
1330
01:13:18,959 --> 01:13:20,526
when Phish started.
1331
01:13:22,310 --> 01:13:24,530
I think about my perception
of my parents at that time
1332
01:13:24,574 --> 01:13:26,619
and my feeling
of wanting to break away,
1333
01:13:26,663 --> 01:13:28,404
and "I'm going to be in a band.
1334
01:13:28,447 --> 01:13:30,014
And we're gonna to travel
all over the world
1335
01:13:30,057 --> 01:13:33,931
and get out from this."
Whatever it was.
1336
01:13:33,974 --> 01:13:36,890
Today,
I feel exactly the opposite.
1337
01:13:36,934 --> 01:13:40,285
I feel how fleeting
certain things are
1338
01:13:40,328 --> 01:13:42,635
and how precious they are.
1339
01:13:46,204 --> 01:13:50,426
♪ It's such a beautiful world
1340
01:13:50,469 --> 01:13:52,428
♪ And such a brief time
1341
01:13:55,518 --> 01:13:56,867
Let's eat food.
1342
01:14:02,046 --> 01:14:05,658
I think the first New Year's
we played was the Boston expo.
1343
01:14:05,702 --> 01:14:07,312
It wasn't much of a gag at all.
1344
01:14:07,355 --> 01:14:08,661
-It wasn't theatrical.
-It really wasn't a gag at all.
1345
01:14:08,705 --> 01:14:10,446
We all wore tuxedos
1346
01:14:10,489 --> 01:14:13,840
and Fish wore the G-string
that was a tuxedo.
1347
01:14:16,452 --> 01:14:18,541
[Page] New Year's 94
was the hot dog.
1348
01:14:18,584 --> 01:14:20,368
Then we did a series
of four runs
1349
01:14:20,412 --> 01:14:23,241
with a fish tank
created on stage.
1350
01:14:23,284 --> 01:14:24,677
The next year
was the time machine,
1351
01:14:24,721 --> 01:14:27,506
which was we did a good gag
with a guy
1352
01:14:27,550 --> 01:14:29,160
that looked like Fish,
in the diaper.
1353
01:14:29,203 --> 01:14:32,685
[Trey] Then, one of my favorites
that gets forgotten,
1354
01:14:32,729 --> 01:14:36,341
is that we did
the angels on ladders.
1355
01:14:36,384 --> 01:14:38,517
-[Page] The snow queens.
-[Trey] On Seven Below.
1356
01:14:38,561 --> 01:14:40,476
[Page]
And we had the snow falling.
1357
01:14:40,519 --> 01:14:43,870
[Trey] The snow was falling and
we had beautiful angel women.
1358
01:14:43,914 --> 01:14:45,481
[Page]
I thought "Petrichor" was--
1359
01:14:45,524 --> 01:14:47,308
[Mike] "Petrichor" was so cool.
1360
01:14:47,352 --> 01:14:49,441
[Page]
There have been some good ones.
1361
01:14:51,051 --> 01:14:55,447
-Fish look what you've started.
-Some funny stuff.
1362
01:14:55,491 --> 01:14:57,188
Somewhere along the line,
1363
01:14:57,231 --> 01:14:59,277
it just exploded into people,
you know, the whole...
1364
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:00,974
Fucking crazy, man.
1365
01:15:01,018 --> 01:15:02,541
[Page] It became iconic.
1366
01:15:02,585 --> 01:15:05,588
[Jon] I just put it on as a joke
and Tina said,
1367
01:15:05,631 --> 01:15:08,329
"You gotta wear that on stage,
you look like Barney Rubble."
1368
01:15:08,373 --> 01:15:11,028
So I did. I wore it for one
gig at Nectar's.
1369
01:15:11,071 --> 01:15:12,725
I wore it for one gig at Nectar'
1370
01:15:12,769 --> 01:15:14,640
And the next day I came back in
my street clothes and Trey goes,
1371
01:15:14,684 --> 01:15:17,425
"Where's the dress?"
And I go, "What do you mean?"
1372
01:15:17,469 --> 01:15:19,036
He goes, "You can't
not wear the dress now,
1373
01:15:19,079 --> 01:15:21,821
it'll rot the gig."
I continued to wear it
1374
01:15:21,865 --> 01:15:23,431
for the next 35 years.
1375
01:15:23,475 --> 01:15:25,390
-That's it. That was it.
-There was another time
1376
01:15:25,433 --> 01:15:26,783
-you stopped wearing it.
-Well, it was..
1377
01:15:26,826 --> 01:15:28,393
I gave you a hard time
about it too, I remember.
1378
01:15:28,436 --> 01:15:30,308
It made me so sad.
1379
01:15:30,351 --> 01:15:31,657
You took it off,
you started wearing--
1380
01:15:31,701 --> 01:15:32,745
I started wearing
a three piece suit.
1381
01:15:32,789 --> 01:15:34,486
During that period of time,
1382
01:15:34,530 --> 01:15:37,228
I kinda became a little...
I was sullen, melancholy.
1383
01:15:37,271 --> 01:15:39,186
-Sullencholy?
-Sullen...
1384
01:15:39,230 --> 01:15:42,102
-Sullen melancholy!
-[laughing]
1385
01:15:42,886 --> 01:15:44,975
[Mike] You were
Jon Sullen Melancholy.
1386
01:15:45,018 --> 01:15:47,194
[laughing]
1387
01:15:51,329 --> 01:15:54,245
-I could introduce you that way.
-Jon Sullen Melancholy.
1388
01:15:54,288 --> 01:15:57,422
[laughing]
Jon Sullen Melancholy.
1389
01:16:00,077 --> 01:16:02,601
♪ I started a joke
1390
01:16:06,083 --> 01:16:08,825
You could give me a fake piano
and I could play.
1391
01:16:10,609 --> 01:16:12,568
♪ Alone again
1392
01:16:16,659 --> 01:16:19,052
Jon Sullen Melancholy.
1393
01:16:20,314 --> 01:16:23,883
[indistinct crosstalk]
1394
01:16:33,676 --> 01:16:35,112
It's a good balance right now.
1395
01:16:35,155 --> 01:16:37,897
Like, everybody has
the right amount of band
1396
01:16:37,941 --> 01:16:40,857
and the right amount
of space to exist
1397
01:16:40,900 --> 01:16:42,554
outside of the world
of the band.
1398
01:16:42,598 --> 01:16:44,034
That was kind of a problem
1399
01:16:44,077 --> 01:16:47,777
before we stopped in 2004,
1400
01:16:47,820 --> 01:16:49,953
which is when I got
kinda mixed up
1401
01:16:49,996 --> 01:16:52,172
in, like, my personal problems.
1402
01:16:52,216 --> 01:16:54,784
Like, exploded
to drinking too much
1403
01:16:54,827 --> 01:16:56,481
and that kind of thing.
1404
01:16:58,222 --> 01:17:01,965
And then, like,
I ended up, you know,
1405
01:17:02,008 --> 01:17:03,967
finally, like, getting arrested.
1406
01:17:05,664 --> 01:17:10,103
Which was, strangely,
was kind of a good thing.
1407
01:17:10,147 --> 01:17:11,757
[laughs]
1408
01:17:11,801 --> 01:17:14,499
Because, like, finally,
this, like, crazy thing
1409
01:17:14,542 --> 01:17:17,415
that had been rolling along
so insanely, stopped.
1410
01:17:17,458 --> 01:17:21,288
Everything just stopped,
and I didn't talk to anybody.
1411
01:17:21,332 --> 01:17:23,029
And then, like,
about a year after that,
1412
01:17:23,073 --> 01:17:24,857
the three guys
came and visited me,
1413
01:17:24,901 --> 01:17:26,816
which was, like...
1414
01:17:26,859 --> 01:17:28,034
I remember that.
1415
01:17:29,601 --> 01:17:31,472
You know, like,
I wasn't allowed to leave,
1416
01:17:31,516 --> 01:17:33,561
I was, like,
sort of under house arrest.
1417
01:17:35,825 --> 01:17:38,392
And they came
and took me out to dinner.
1418
01:17:38,871 --> 01:17:40,786
That was really nice.
1419
01:17:44,137 --> 01:17:46,879
And then we started
kind of, like, firing back up
1420
01:17:46,923 --> 01:17:48,881
and we just rebuilt,
like, our life
1421
01:17:48,925 --> 01:17:52,319
from that point on
in, like, a much healthier way.
1422
01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,500
♪ Sitting on the floor
1423
01:17:59,544 --> 01:18:00,676
[blues music]
1424
01:18:02,939 --> 01:18:06,507
♪ Thinking, breathing
1425
01:18:08,858 --> 01:18:10,294
♪ Burning
1426
01:18:12,644 --> 01:18:14,080
♪ Burning
1427
01:18:16,996 --> 01:18:18,258
♪ I'm about to run
1428
01:18:20,043 --> 01:18:21,435
[blues music]
1429
01:18:26,919 --> 01:18:29,226
[Trey] I think probably
the difference in this album is
1430
01:18:29,269 --> 01:18:34,361
that there's a lot of moments
of real, raw honesty.
1431
01:18:35,101 --> 01:18:37,277
It's like a blues album,
you know?
1432
01:18:37,321 --> 01:18:38,931
Because a lot of the songs
that I'm writing
1433
01:18:38,975 --> 01:18:42,674
are full of, like, confusion
and, like, fear,
1434
01:18:42,718 --> 01:18:45,851
and, like, that's the thing
that I hear most on this record.
1435
01:18:45,895 --> 01:18:49,681
And that's kind of what I
actually feel most of the time.
1436
01:18:52,684 --> 01:18:55,556
It's fear.
There's an underlying fear.
1437
01:19:08,308 --> 01:19:10,658
♪ I'm about to run
1438
01:19:14,010 --> 01:19:16,839
♪ I'm about to run
1439
01:20:19,815 --> 01:20:21,425
[background chatter]
1440
01:20:22,513 --> 01:20:23,688
[Trey] Hi.
1441
01:20:26,430 --> 01:20:27,561
Yes, indeed.
1442
01:20:27,605 --> 01:20:29,476
I needed to jump up and down.
1443
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,478
So thank you so very much.
1444
01:20:31,522 --> 01:20:33,002
[Trey] Your dad...
1445
01:20:33,045 --> 01:20:34,873
It's so good to see you.
There's so much of him in you.
1446
01:20:34,917 --> 01:20:36,440
-It's so good to see you.
-[Trey] It warms my heart.
1447
01:20:36,483 --> 01:20:37,789
That's what I've
been telling people,
1448
01:20:37,833 --> 01:20:39,356
like, that's
the best compliment.
1449
01:20:39,399 --> 01:20:42,533
[Trey] He was my favorite
person ever. I loved him.
1450
01:20:42,576 --> 01:20:45,623
You didn't go one day in your
entire life being with him
1451
01:20:45,666 --> 01:20:46,972
that you didn't laugh
at least once.
1452
01:20:47,016 --> 01:20:48,495
-I know.
-[woman] You were never bored.
1453
01:20:48,539 --> 01:20:50,236
And the day he was dying
he was still doing that.
1454
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,717
He would kind of go to sleep,
he'd just taken morphine,
1455
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:54,284
-and we all started crying.
-Yeah.
1456
01:20:54,327 --> 01:20:56,677
[Trey] And he woke up
and he goes,
1457
01:20:56,721 --> 01:20:58,462
"What, did someone die
or something?"
1458
01:20:58,505 --> 01:21:01,465
-[all laughing]
-Like, there's a dad for you.
1459
01:21:01,508 --> 01:21:03,597
[woman] I was like, "Oh my God."
1460
01:21:03,641 --> 01:21:05,948
[stutters]
He was a professional partier.
1461
01:21:05,991 --> 01:21:08,646
Many times throughout
our friendship where I'm like,
1462
01:21:08,689 --> 01:21:10,126
"I just want
to go to bed, dude."
1463
01:21:10,169 --> 01:21:11,736
You know what I'm trying to say?
1464
01:21:11,779 --> 01:21:14,913
But it never happened.
I coulda gone to bed.
1465
01:21:14,957 --> 01:21:17,350
Okay? You see
what I'm trying to say?
1466
01:21:17,394 --> 01:21:21,441
But then I'm thinking,
I'm like, I'm getting older now.
1467
01:21:21,485 --> 01:21:23,356
Like, the amount
of fun that we had...
1468
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:24,967
-[woman] Like [unclear] said.
-We would, like,
1469
01:21:25,010 --> 01:21:26,446
get up in the morning,
we'd, like,
1470
01:21:26,490 --> 01:21:27,883
"Okay, let's climb
to the top of, you know,
1471
01:21:27,926 --> 01:21:28,971
that Crested Butte mountain,"
1472
01:21:29,014 --> 01:21:31,234
like, in our sneakers. Like...
1473
01:21:32,278 --> 01:21:35,151
All right? "Come on, man,
let's go." And we'd go.
1474
01:21:35,716 --> 01:21:37,936
I'm never gonna have
a friend like that ever again.
1475
01:21:40,678 --> 01:21:43,115
♪ You're smiling at me
1476
01:21:44,073 --> 01:21:47,163
♪ From your picture frame
1477
01:21:47,206 --> 01:21:49,078
♪ And I miss you
1478
01:21:49,121 --> 01:21:50,731
[blues music]
1479
01:21:53,734 --> 01:21:57,086
♪ My life keeps on changing
1480
01:21:57,129 --> 01:22:00,567
♪ But you stay the same
1481
01:22:00,611 --> 01:22:02,308
♪ I miss you
1482
01:22:02,352 --> 01:22:04,049
[blues music]
1483
01:22:07,009 --> 01:22:09,446
♪ You're everywhere
1484
01:22:13,058 --> 01:22:16,540
♪ You're everywhere
1485
01:22:19,717 --> 01:22:22,938
♪ You're everywhere
1486
01:22:37,865 --> 01:22:39,606
That's me in the '60s, man.
1487
01:22:39,650 --> 01:22:42,653
[laughs] It was wild.
It was some wild days.
1488
01:22:42,696 --> 01:22:45,134
And then this is the girl
I had a crush on.
1489
01:22:45,177 --> 01:22:47,527
That was in New Jersey.
1490
01:22:47,571 --> 01:22:49,268
I definitely remember
having a crush on her,
1491
01:22:49,312 --> 01:22:50,748
but I don't remember her name.
1492
01:22:52,402 --> 01:22:56,493
we used to play Tetris
on the bus in the back lounge.
1493
01:22:56,536 --> 01:22:59,844
We used to play so much Tetris
that I would dream about it.
1494
01:22:59,887 --> 01:23:01,411
I was always seeing
1495
01:23:01,454 --> 01:23:03,674
Tetris blocks
falling in front of my face.
1496
01:23:03,717 --> 01:23:07,330
That was a fun tour.
I think it was 94.
1497
01:23:07,373 --> 01:23:09,071
I can't remember.
1498
01:23:10,376 --> 01:23:14,206
It's crazy, man. It gets crazier
the longer this all goes on.
1499
01:23:15,512 --> 01:23:17,862
Just wanted to give everybody
a full orientation
1500
01:23:17,905 --> 01:23:19,864
about what was going to happen.
Hey, guys.
1501
01:23:19,907 --> 01:23:22,258
House lights will go out,
you guys will go up
1502
01:23:22,301 --> 01:23:24,434
and start to play "Soul Planet."
1503
01:23:24,477 --> 01:23:27,002
Right, as you start to play,
the truss above is going
1504
01:23:27,045 --> 01:23:30,005
to slowly descend right
over your heads, super slow.
1505
01:23:30,048 --> 01:23:31,310
Guys in the red jumpsuits
1506
01:23:31,354 --> 01:23:32,572
and a couple
of stage hands come out,
1507
01:23:32,616 --> 01:23:34,400
and they're going
to very carefully
1508
01:23:34,444 --> 01:23:36,707
distribute those wires
and take up the slack.
1509
01:23:36,750 --> 01:23:39,057
They're going to drop the sail,
we're going to turn on the fans
1510
01:23:39,101 --> 01:23:41,190
and attach it at the sides,
Where our cast members
1511
01:23:41,233 --> 01:23:42,974
on the front
are going to turn it around
1512
01:23:43,018 --> 01:23:46,369
while we have men on either side
suspended as they spin.
1513
01:23:46,412 --> 01:23:50,112
Then, the 10, 9, 8,
it's all that. The timing.
1514
01:23:50,155 --> 01:23:52,070
The cannons are going to go off,
1515
01:23:52,114 --> 01:23:54,594
the ceiling explodes and you'll
go into "Auld Lang Syne."
1516
01:23:54,638 --> 01:23:57,554
-We'll do something sunrise-y.
-Okay, okay cool.
1517
01:23:57,597 --> 01:23:59,338
"Velvet Sea," or...
I don't know.
1518
01:23:59,382 --> 01:24:00,905
Okay.
1519
01:24:00,948 --> 01:24:02,124
-Did you have any other...?
-[singing softly]
1520
01:24:02,646 --> 01:24:03,690
Alright, ready? Go.
1521
01:24:03,734 --> 01:24:04,865
Take the stage.
1522
01:24:04,909 --> 01:24:05,953
[woman over speaker] Follow you.
1523
01:24:05,997 --> 01:24:06,911
Hope you guys have fun up there.
1524
01:24:06,954 --> 01:24:08,782
My Mom? Let me say hi.
1525
01:24:09,435 --> 01:24:10,697
-Hello!
-Hi!
1526
01:24:16,703 --> 01:24:19,576
I can't tell them apart,
who's who.
1527
01:24:19,619 --> 01:24:20,881
[girl] We have the same hat!
1528
01:24:20,925 --> 01:24:23,928
-[woman] Hi, Trey.
-Happy New Year!
1529
01:24:26,496 --> 01:24:28,063
The intimidating thing is
1530
01:24:28,106 --> 01:24:30,935
these suede sneakers take
20 minutes to put on.
1531
01:24:30,978 --> 01:24:32,241
They are too tight.
1532
01:24:34,025 --> 01:24:35,418
You wanna go see Page?
1533
01:24:35,461 --> 01:24:37,768
This is for Delia's teacher,
I'm sorry.
1534
01:24:37,811 --> 01:24:39,117
That's okay.
1535
01:24:39,161 --> 01:24:40,814
-If you don't mind.
-Sure.
1536
01:24:40,858 --> 01:24:42,251
-It's a good poster.
-It's a great poster.
1537
01:24:42,294 --> 01:24:43,643
Who did this?
1538
01:24:43,687 --> 01:24:45,384
I don't know.
It looks like [unclear].
1539
01:24:45,428 --> 01:24:46,733
-You mind about here?
-Yeah, anywhere. That's great.
1540
01:24:48,387 --> 01:24:49,649
Great. Thank you.
1541
01:24:49,693 --> 01:24:50,998
-Colby?
-Colby, it's the teacher.
1542
01:24:51,042 --> 01:24:52,478
Colby must be a good teacher.
1543
01:24:52,522 --> 01:24:54,219
-Would you mind--
-[Trey] This is good, too.
1544
01:24:54,263 --> 01:24:56,700
This is it for our 17th
Madison Square Garden show.
1545
01:24:56,743 --> 01:24:58,049
We could do...
1546
01:24:58,093 --> 01:25:01,139
♪ I learned the truth at 17
1547
01:25:01,183 --> 01:25:02,793
[laughing]
1548
01:25:02,836 --> 01:25:05,796
-♪ When I was 17
-[laughing]
1549
01:25:05,839 --> 01:25:08,668
♪ It was a very good year
1550
01:25:10,540 --> 01:25:12,933
I better do silver, because
everybody else did silver.
1551
01:25:15,066 --> 01:25:17,721
It looks a little bigger
in real life
1552
01:25:17,764 --> 01:25:20,506
than it looks on...
You know what I mean?
1553
01:25:20,550 --> 01:25:23,030
I could block one of those.
1554
01:25:23,074 --> 01:25:24,554
-Well, thank you.
-Thank you.
1555
01:25:24,597 --> 01:25:26,164
Love you guys, and thanks.
Happy New Year.
1556
01:25:26,208 --> 01:25:27,731
Happy New Year.
We'll see you next year.
1557
01:25:27,774 --> 01:25:29,689
-Hey! Good to see you.
-Hey, buddy.
1558
01:25:29,733 --> 01:25:32,605
Again and again. Every
year, every year, every year.
1559
01:25:33,432 --> 01:25:35,869
[Sue] I'll see you.
You won't see me.
1560
01:25:35,913 --> 01:25:38,437
I'll come back during
the set breaks and stuff,
1561
01:25:38,481 --> 01:25:39,786
but you'll probably be busy.
1562
01:25:39,830 --> 01:25:41,136
-I'll be here. Bye.
-All right.
1563
01:25:42,702 --> 01:25:44,356
And Fish had been out all night.
Did I tell you this story?
1564
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:45,966
[Page] Yeah, I remember this.
1565
01:25:46,010 --> 01:25:47,316
I remember there was some
George Harrison involved.
1566
01:25:47,359 --> 01:25:50,101
He came home,
and he was, like...
1567
01:25:50,145 --> 01:25:51,929
got on the couch
and went to sleep.
1568
01:25:53,887 --> 01:25:55,193
And then we started having
1569
01:25:55,237 --> 01:25:56,977
-this huge fight, you know?
-Yep.
1570
01:25:57,021 --> 01:25:58,805
I was kinda in shock,
and Fish had been asleep
1571
01:25:58,849 --> 01:26:00,416
for, like, an hour on the couch.
1572
01:26:00,459 --> 01:26:02,461
And I ran out. I was like,
"Fish, we gotta go!"
1573
01:26:02,505 --> 01:26:04,463
He, like, jumped right up.
1574
01:26:04,507 --> 01:26:06,291
He was like,
"Okay, where are we going?"
1575
01:26:06,335 --> 01:26:07,901
Having slept for, like, an hour.
1576
01:26:08,685 --> 01:26:11,209
We just drove around
until the OP opened.
1577
01:26:11,253 --> 01:26:12,515
We went out and got beers
1578
01:26:12,558 --> 01:26:14,212
at eleven o'clock
in the morning.
1579
01:26:14,256 --> 01:26:15,518
[laughs]
1580
01:26:15,561 --> 01:26:18,129
♪ Give me love, give me love
1581
01:26:18,173 --> 01:26:19,783
It was such a great day.
1582
01:26:19,826 --> 01:26:22,264
-It's weird how bad things...
-Yes.
1583
01:26:22,307 --> 01:26:24,309
...sometimes end up
being the best days.
1584
01:26:24,353 --> 01:26:27,051
They're liberating.
I look back on some dark times,
1585
01:26:27,094 --> 01:26:29,488
and I'm like, "Boy, it seemed
rough at the time,
1586
01:26:29,532 --> 01:26:31,229
but there was
a certain excitement,
1587
01:26:31,273 --> 01:26:36,103
and a certain freedom."
And that when it went away,
1588
01:26:36,147 --> 01:26:37,931
I wasn't sad. But I was like,
1589
01:26:37,975 --> 01:26:40,369
"I'm never gonna feel
like that again."
1590
01:26:40,412 --> 01:26:42,240
Like you feel alive
or something.
1591
01:26:42,284 --> 01:26:45,243
[Page] Yeah. You were, like,
just so alive in every moment.
1592
01:26:49,769 --> 01:26:51,249
How's the show going?
1593
01:26:51,293 --> 01:26:52,642
You do what you gotta do.
1594
01:26:53,425 --> 01:26:55,732
It's not quite...
1595
01:26:55,775 --> 01:26:57,690
Yeah, I know.
It's... Ever since...
1596
01:26:57,734 --> 01:26:59,257
I haven't even read
the book yet,
1597
01:26:59,301 --> 01:27:00,215
but it's already loosening up.
1598
01:27:00,258 --> 01:27:01,564
It's already working.
1599
01:27:01,607 --> 01:27:02,304
You're gonna
read the introduction.
1600
01:27:02,347 --> 01:27:04,393
[indistinct]
1601
01:27:04,436 --> 01:27:05,611
Arms getting a little sore
1602
01:27:05,655 --> 01:27:06,960
about 2/3 through
the second solo.
1603
01:27:07,004 --> 01:27:08,179
I was like...
1604
01:27:08,223 --> 01:27:12,575
[indistinct chatter]
1605
01:27:13,140 --> 01:27:15,273
-You feel good.
-[crowd cheering]
1606
01:27:26,066 --> 01:27:28,155
[crowd roars]
1607
01:27:32,203 --> 01:27:36,120
♪ Well, now everyone's together
On the soul planet ♪
1608
01:27:36,163 --> 01:27:38,949
♪ There's one beating heart
On the soul planet ♪
1609
01:27:38,992 --> 01:27:42,300
♪ There's room for everyone
On the soul planet ♪
1610
01:27:42,344 --> 01:27:45,260
♪ There's space for everyone
On the soul planet ♪
1611
01:27:45,303 --> 01:27:48,263
♪ There's ten million colors
On the soul planet ♪
1612
01:27:48,306 --> 01:27:51,222
♪ Speak the language of love
On the soul planet ♪
1613
01:27:51,266 --> 01:27:54,051
♪ We're screaming through space
We're screaming through space ♪
1614
01:27:54,094 --> 01:27:56,923
♪ And everyone's together
1615
01:27:56,967 --> 01:27:59,752
♪ And there's one big ocean
1616
01:27:59,796 --> 01:28:02,929
♪ And the ocean is love
1617
01:28:02,973 --> 01:28:06,063
♪ And everybody's reaching
1618
01:28:11,373 --> 01:28:13,070
♪ And the ocean is love
1619
01:28:13,113 --> 01:28:14,854
♪ And the ocean is love
1620
01:28:14,898 --> 01:28:17,248
♪ Wind is the music
1621
01:28:17,292 --> 01:28:18,641
♪ Soul planet
1622
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:21,383
♪ Soul planet
1623
01:28:46,669 --> 01:28:48,192
[explosion]
1624
01:28:48,235 --> 01:28:49,628
[whistling]
1625
01:28:51,413 --> 01:28:52,631
[explosion]
1626
01:28:52,675 --> 01:28:54,372
[cheering]
1627
01:28:59,638 --> 01:29:02,206
[explosions]
1628
01:29:18,178 --> 01:29:20,572
[plays "Auld Lang Syne"]
1629
01:29:47,469 --> 01:29:48,774
[crowd cheering]
1630
01:29:56,913 --> 01:29:59,785
[Trey] I was thinking about
that scene in The Last Waltz,
1631
01:29:59,829 --> 01:30:02,179
where Robbie Roberts is saying,
"We've been on the road
1632
01:30:02,222 --> 01:30:03,963
for 15 years,
and it's an impossible life,
1633
01:30:04,007 --> 01:30:05,922
so I wanna stop."
1634
01:30:05,965 --> 01:30:08,664
I gotta look at that a little
bit like, really? Fifteen years?
1635
01:30:08,707 --> 01:30:11,884
That's all you can take?
C'mon, man!
1636
01:30:11,928 --> 01:30:13,103
Like, I'll never stop.
1637
01:30:14,757 --> 01:30:16,933
It can be lonely sometimes,
and whatever, it is.
1638
01:30:16,976 --> 01:30:18,717
You know, but who cares?
1639
01:30:18,761 --> 01:30:20,545
It's like, it's the best.
I'm never going to stop.
1640
01:30:21,938 --> 01:30:23,200
I don't want to stop.
1641
01:30:28,161 --> 01:30:31,426
♪ I'm living
In an endless dream ♪
1642
01:30:31,469 --> 01:30:35,734
♪ The moments run together
In a winding stream ♪
1643
01:30:37,301 --> 01:30:40,609
♪ I look in your familiar eyes
1644
01:30:42,524 --> 01:30:46,005
♪ And watch
The moon's reflections rise ♪
1645
01:30:46,049 --> 01:30:49,705
♪ While angels in the garden
Ingest the light ♪
1646
01:30:51,533 --> 01:30:54,492
♪ With pulsing wings
And timeless sight ♪
1647
01:30:56,363 --> 01:30:59,845
♪ The cool evening air
Moves through ♪
1648
01:31:00,672 --> 01:31:03,893
♪ These are
My sunset days with you ♪
1649
01:31:05,460 --> 01:31:06,722
[guitar music]
1650
01:31:09,899 --> 01:31:13,946
♪ We're walking
On the cobblestones ♪
1651
01:31:14,599 --> 01:31:17,689
♪ Along the road
That leads us home ♪
1652
01:31:19,125 --> 01:31:22,172
♪ You're laughing loud
Your eyes agleam ♪
1653
01:31:23,956 --> 01:31:26,698
♪ Through the muting reds
Of autumn's dream ♪
1654
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:31,486
♪ You are my sun
You are my soul ♪
1655
01:31:33,096 --> 01:31:36,186
♪ You are my truth
You keep me whole ♪
1656
01:31:37,709 --> 01:31:40,843
♪ And hold me
Till the night is through ♪
1657
01:31:42,322 --> 01:31:45,195
♪ And make the daytime
Bright and new ♪
1658
01:31:46,718 --> 01:31:49,460
♪ So stay here
In my endless dream ♪
1659
01:31:50,374 --> 01:31:54,378
♪ Where moments run together
In a winding stream ♪
1660
01:31:55,771 --> 01:31:59,209
♪ There's nothing
That I'd rather do ♪
1661
01:32:00,558 --> 01:32:03,605
♪ Than spend my sunset days
With you ♪
1662
01:32:05,389 --> 01:32:08,697
♪ Than spend my sunset days
With you ♪
1663
01:32:23,581 --> 01:32:25,017
[Trey] I like that, man.
1664
01:32:27,454 --> 01:32:29,544
Yeah, man. Record that.
1665
01:32:30,414 --> 01:32:32,764
-Yeah!
-Just let that go a few times.
1666
01:32:32,808 --> 01:32:34,461
[laughter]
1667
01:32:34,505 --> 01:32:36,115
That's kind of Nordic, too.
1668
01:32:36,159 --> 01:32:38,161
I like that better
than the piece we just did.
1669
01:32:39,554 --> 01:32:41,077
That's actually good!
1670
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:42,513
-That's actually good.
-That's a good intro.
1671
01:32:42,557 --> 01:32:43,993
Don't be scared to do
like six or more.
1672
01:32:44,036 --> 01:32:45,951
-At least.
-Do more than you think is good.
1673
01:32:51,130 --> 01:32:53,350
More, more, more! C'mon!
1674
01:32:53,393 --> 01:32:55,134
[soft music]
1675
01:33:03,969 --> 01:33:05,449
[laughing]
1676
01:33:05,492 --> 01:33:07,494
-It's getting better.
-Yeah!
1677
01:33:11,107 --> 01:33:14,371
All right. Okay.
1678
01:33:14,414 --> 01:33:16,503
All right now, let's reel it
back in, gentlemen.
1679
01:33:16,547 --> 01:33:19,855
-Boys, reel it back in.
-[laughing]
1680
01:33:19,898 --> 01:33:21,639
That was fun.
1681
01:33:22,814 --> 01:33:24,642
-Six?
-Let Fish hit,
1682
01:33:24,686 --> 01:33:25,991
like, a cymbal at the end.
1683
01:33:26,035 --> 01:33:27,384
Like, bash!
1684
01:33:27,427 --> 01:33:28,820
Maybe we should
do an ending note.
1685
01:33:29,386 --> 01:33:30,735
-Because it's--
-Yeah, like a "Go!"
1686
01:33:30,779 --> 01:33:33,608
I'm fucking here!
You're fucking there!
1687
01:33:33,651 --> 01:33:35,218
You're fucking there! Here!
1688
01:33:36,480 --> 01:33:39,439
[laughing]
We should really do that.
1689
01:33:41,093 --> 01:33:43,052
-It's right here.
-You do it.
1690
01:33:43,095 --> 01:33:44,488
♪ You're fucking there
1691
01:33:44,531 --> 01:33:45,924
♪ I'm fucking there
1692
01:33:45,968 --> 01:33:47,273
♪ You're fucking there
1693
01:33:47,317 --> 01:33:49,101
♪ You're fucking here
1694
01:33:49,145 --> 01:33:50,929
♪ You're fucking there
I'm fucking there ♪
1695
01:33:50,973 --> 01:33:52,148
♪ You're fucking there
I'm fucking there ♪
1696
01:33:52,191 --> 01:33:54,977
♪ Fucking there, there, there
1697
01:33:55,020 --> 01:33:56,195
Finland!
1698
01:33:56,239 --> 01:33:57,588
[laughter]
1699
01:34:04,203 --> 01:34:07,163
[Mike] C'mon. It was good.
1700
01:34:08,991 --> 01:34:10,035
Alright.
1701
01:34:11,602 --> 01:34:13,038
You got that, Bryce?
1702
01:34:14,779 --> 01:34:16,781
[all laughing]
1703
01:34:16,825 --> 01:34:19,436
[Trey] It's a good thing
we threw in that one.
1704
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Yeah.
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[Trey]
Good thing we came back to that.
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