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- [Rudy] The following
program contains footage
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of military operations.
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Viewer discretion is advised.
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Tonight, on The Proof Is Out
There: Military Mysteries.
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A World War II photo that
set the internet on fire.
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Is that a Korean man
fighting for the Nazis?
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- It sparked one of the
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weirdest mysteries
of World War II.
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- [Rudy] The bird that helped
us take out Bin Laden.
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Why have we never seen anything
like this chopper before?
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Or since?
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- This is some sort of
secret stealth tech.
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- [Rudy] A viral video
spawns the legend
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of a Ukrainian
Ace fighter pilot,
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but who's the man
behind the mask?
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- "The Ghost of Kiev,"
all of a sudden,
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told the Ukrainians,
"We can win this.
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We can fight back."
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- [Rudy] And our secret
weapon of the week.
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Is this a boat, a plane,
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a missile launcher,
or all three?
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- People were probably
thinking this is ridiculous.
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Then, years later,
it's no longer a joke.
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(dramatic music)
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- [Rudy] In the modern history
of war, there are films.
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- Shazam.
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- [Rudy] Photos,
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recordings,
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and documents that
raise questions.
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- So, everything about this
story is one big mystery.
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- This particular footage has
caused a lot of controversy.
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- [Rudy] What's
really happening?
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- [Joe] There's so
little information.
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- Nothing like this has
been attempted before.
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- That's where we come in.
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Our mission, investigate the
battlefield's strangest images,
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sounds, and more.
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- [Tim] This photo
blows my mind.
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- You can imagine how
terrifying it would be.
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- [Rudy] We'll analyze
each with military experts
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and try to come up with answers.
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- I'm Ronnie Adkins, former
US Army Intelligence Analyst.
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- I'm Rudy Reyes, Recon
Marine war veteran.
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The proof starts now.
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(dramatic music)
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Good evening everybody,
and welcome.
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Now, let's jump into it.
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Still photos played a
huge part in World War II.
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Not only did they help
win over public opinion,
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but they provided most of the
Allies' intel about the enemy.
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- And after a peculiar
photo of a prisoner of war
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taken right after
D-Day was found,
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it ignited a mystery.
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Did a captured Korean soldier
fight with the Nazis on D-Day?
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It's June 1944.
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The Allied invasion of
Normandy is a success.
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In the days following
D-Day, more than 200,000
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members of the German
Army surrender,
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or are taken prisoner
in Western France.
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One of them is this man,
captured in this photo.
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He's clad in a German
Wehrmacht uniform,
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but he looks to be
of Asian descent.
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World War II historian,
Sayuri Shimizu says
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that's why the photo
has become famous,
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or, at least, internet famous.
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- It sparked one of
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the most curious,
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and, in some ways, weirdest
mysteries of World War II.
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- [Ronnie] Military historian
Martin K.A. Morgan says
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the tale wraps around the globe.
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And stretches the
boundaries of believability.
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- The theory that
eventually emerges
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is that the man
in the photograph
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is named Yang Kyoungjong.
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He was born in Korea in 1920,
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and then, ultimately,
conscripted
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into the Japanese Imperial Army.
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- [Ronnie] Some background here,
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Japan had annexed
Korea years earlier.
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In the 1930s, a series
of border wars broke out
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between Japan and Soviet Russia.
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Kyoungjong, serving
the Japanese,
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is now, allegedly, fighting
against the Soviets.
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- He ended up
fighting in Manchuria.
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That's where the Japan's
front line going for,
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engaging the Russian Red Army.
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- [Ronnie] And the legend
has it that he was captured
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by the Red Army in
1938 and conscripted.
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Which means that, as a prisoner,
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he was forced into
military service.
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- And is sent to a gulag.
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In 1942, in view of the
immense human casualty
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as the Red Army has suffered,
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he is then put into
Red Army hands,
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where he is then captured by
the Germans in 1942 or '43.
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- The Germans then capture him
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and the Germans
don't conscript him,
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but the Germans had
a program by which
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people and prisoner of
war camps could volunteer
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to serve in a support
unit in the Wehrmacht.
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This circuitous path that
leads a Korean born man
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to appear wearing a German
uniform in Normandy in 1944.
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- [Ronnie] It's a
heck of a theory.
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Is it all true?
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Is he the most captured
soldier of all time?
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And did he complete
an incredible journey
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to fight at D-Day?
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And, if not,
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then who are we really
looking at in this picture?
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- You know, Ronnie,
the conscription part
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makes sense to me.
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Throughout millennia,
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conquering armies have
conscripted the conquered.
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- Yeah, I mean,
the Romans did it.
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Genghis Khan would do it
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when he was conquering
his territories.
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They actually had to
outlaw this practice
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at the 1949 Geneva Convention.
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- So I believe that this
could have really happened.
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But let's see if our experts
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can draw a more
accurate picture.
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(tense music)
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- [Ronnie] The first
thing that's tough
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to get your head around
is the idea that the
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race obsessed Nazis
would even let
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an Asian soldier
into their army,
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but the truth may
really blow your mind.
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- Despite their ideological
pretension of racial purity,
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by that time, Germany,
like the Soviet Union,
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and like Japan, they were all
so desperate for manpower.
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They were willing to recruit
whoever they could recruit.
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Toward the end, it became a
really diverse motley crew.
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- [Rudy] So, that puts
us at a definite maybe.
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But the odds of a
single soldier fighting
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in not one, not two, but
three armies in World War II
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still sounds so out there.
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Professor Anand Toprani digs
into the origins of the story.
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- According to the
historian Steven Ambrose,
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a paratrooper had captured,
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or soldiers who we
thought were Korean.
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And then, Ambrose's story
was tied to this picture
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to create the idea
that, actually,
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this was a Korean soldier.
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- [Rudy] Bestselling
author Steven Ambrose
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tells this paratrooper story
in his 1994 book, "D-Day."
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And while he never
references the photo,
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others start to make
their own connections.
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- And then people in Korea
start using the internet
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to try and see if they can
identify who this person was.
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They come up with a
name, Yang Kyoungjong.
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- [Rudy] But hold your fire.
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Professor Toprani's
doubtful a Korean soldier
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would've made it as far as
the Eastern Russian front,
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much less France.
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- The Japanese would've
conscripted a lot of Koreans
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to serve in various roles,
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but would they have
conscripted them to serve in
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elite Japanese army units that
were fighting the Red Army?
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But, even then, let's
assume that that's the case.
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Somehow, this person
ends up in Soviet hands,
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isn't killed by the
Soviets, is sent to a gulag.
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Well, why would you have
released them from the Gulag?
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They could actually do
important labor in the Gulag.
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And that's what
most Gulag prisoners
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were doing during the war.
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And then, somehow,
this person ends up
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in German hands on
the eastern front,
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but then is sent to
the western front
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to serve as cannon fodder.
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It just, again,
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it just doesn't make
a whole lot of sense.
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- He supposedly went
through all the
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major military inflection
points of World War II.
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At the risk of
sounding too facetious,
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he was the Forrest
Gump of World War II.
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- [Rudy] And Martin Morgan
looked for documentation
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to support the story that
the man in the picture
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is Yang Kyoungjong,
from Pyongyang.
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And he came up with this.
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- Yang Kyoungjong never lived.
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There is absolutely
no proof whatsoever
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that anyone of Korean birth
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served in the German military
during the Second World War.
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- [Rudy] So if the
legendary Korean Nazi
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didn't actually exist,
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then who are we
really looking at?
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- I don't think this man
is Korean or Japanese.
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I believe the man
to be Turkestani.
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People from Georgia or
Turkestan are the product of
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the Turko-Mongol amalgamation.
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To this very day,
you can see people,
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from that part of the world,
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who present Asiatic features.
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- [Rudy] The Turkestani
soldiers were nationalists
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who long resented
their Soviet rulers,
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so they'd made common
cause with Germany.
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- There were Turkestanis
serving as Hiwis, or volunteers,
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within the ranks of the
German 353rd Infantry Division
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that was fighting the
American Seventh Core,
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in Normandy, during the
second week of June 1944.
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There are other
Turkestanis who are
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captured and processed by the
American military in Normandy
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at about the same time that
this photograph was taken
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where you can see the patch.
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It's just that he's
not wearing the patch.
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(tense music)
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- So we've got one viral
photo and two theories.
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What do you think, Rudy?
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- I like Marty Morgan's take.
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It's clean. It's simple.
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Our mystery man was
actually part of the
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Turkestani Battalion
stationed in Normandy.
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- Now, people, when you
normally think of riding
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in a Black Hawk Helicopter,
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there's a few words
that come to mind.
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- Yeah.
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Loud, not quiet, and
absolutely deafening.
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- One thing you don't
think of is stealth.
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And that's our mystery.
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Has the US invented a helicopter
that can't be seen and heard?
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And did we use it to take out
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one of history's
biggest bad guys?
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May 4th, 2011, the Pentagon.
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It's two days after the day
we took out Osama Bin Laden,
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the terrorist behind the
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9/11 attacks on
the United States,
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including this very complex.
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His death had people inside
the Pentagon celebrating,
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but also worried
about this photo.
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The photo is all
over the internet
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and appears to show
the tail section
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of an American helicopter
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that crash landed
during the mission.
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And it's not the only image.
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People, this isn't any
ordinary Black Hawk helicopter.
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Those are badass enough.
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But this one's
clearly been modified.
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Let's take a closer look.
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- The thing that was
really interesting
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about this helicopter,
which was kind of unique,
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is they put a
specialized, sort of,
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ring around the rotor blades.
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- [Rudy] And check this out.
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The skin appears to be
a high-tech material
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with a special finish.
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Your standard bird doesn't
come with that nice touch.
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And the general shape of
what's left of the craft
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is highly unusual
for a Black Hawk.
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- The edging of the
aircraft is very smooth.
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There's no points where
you have lines or rivets
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that connect the the body
of the aircraft together.
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You have sort of these
very smooth edges
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that, then, sort of
kind of slope quickly.
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So you have all this
speculation running.
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This is some sort of
secret stealth tech.
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- [Rudy] Stealth helicopters
have been a dream of
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the military going
back to the Cold War,
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for obvious reasons.
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- Helicopters are
really, really loud.
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You can hear a helicopter
from miles away.
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(tense music)
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- [Rudy] That wasn't gonna
work on the Bin Laden raid.
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Navy Seals needed a
way to penetrate
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120 miles into Pakistan
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to Bin Laden's compound.
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- For the United States, that
was really going out for him,
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this had to remain
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the quietest operation
that they had ever,
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like, conceived of.
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'Cause they knew for a fact that
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if Bin Laden caught any whiff
of this, he would vanish.
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- Okay, so as far
as the mystery,
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did we invent a
stealth Black Hawk?
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You look at the material,
you look at the shape,
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and the answer is probably yes.
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So, Rudy, how much of a
game changer would that be?
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- Quite a bit, Ronnie.
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Surreptitious insert
allows one to stay dark
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until you gain initiative
with speed, surprise,
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and violence of action.
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- Our folks tell
us this was likely
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a one-time custom job for
the Bin Laden mission
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or even a mission like it.
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But that brings up
a second mystery.
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How did it work, and
why did it crash?
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(tense music)
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- The Bin Laden raid was
one of those missions,
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where you, instead of
asking for permission,
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you ask for forgiveness.
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So, in order to be
swift and stealthy,
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this helicopter
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did have a special coating
on it to deflect radar.
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- [Rudy] We think the paint
is a light emitting film
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that you find on stealth
aircraft, like the F-117.
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Radar detects things
by emitting energy,
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which is reflected back by
any object it encounters.
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This coating actually
absorbs most of that energy
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bouncing back a much
smaller radar signature.
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So, the reading appears
more like a small bird
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rather than a large aircraft.
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But what about a
helicopter's moving parts?
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- This is a stealth helicopter
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and because it doesn't
have those protrusions,
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or those rivets, and the way
the rotors are put together
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causes reduced noise.
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But, most importantly,
increased speed and swiftness.
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- [Rudy] Those rotary
blades are outfitted
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with this unique
circular shield,
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which not only muffles the
sounds of the rotating blades,
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it actually makes the
chopper less detectable
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since it's hiding the rotors
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in complex angles
and metal components
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that would otherwise bounce back
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a helicopter shaped
energy signature.
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Also, the tail rotor
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appears to have
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one more blade than a
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Black Hawk's typical four,
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which would allow
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for a slower, quieter
spinning rotor
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that still maintains
a Black Hawk's
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typical speed of
175 miles per hour.
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Pretty cool, unless
it's coming for you.
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So, why did it crash?
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Joseph Assad says that traces
back to one small oversight
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in an otherwise meticulously
planned operation.
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- One of the primary reasons
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that the helicopter
crashed on landing
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was the SEAL team
had been practicing
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on a chain link fence
around the compound,
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which would've
allowed for airflow.
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- [Rudy] But
the real compound
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had walls of solid concrete,
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and that made all
the difference.
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- This helicopter crashed
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because of
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a vortex that it got
into in the compound
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caused by the rotor wash.
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And it caused the pilots to
lose control of the aircraft,
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and it caused it to spin, and
end up hitting the ground.
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And the assault force got out
and went after the mission,
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'cause that was most
important to them,
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even more than their own lives.
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Mission failure
would've been worse.
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- [Rudy] So it
may well be that
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this stealth chopper's first
mission was also its last.
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Still, for a one hit wonder,
that was quite a hit.
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(tense music)
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This chopper going
down the way it did
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is a reminder of how essential
the right training is.
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A simple thing like chain link
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versus solid wall makes
all the difference.
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- Yeah, but let's remember,
only the best in the world
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could have completed this
mission with one bird down.
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- What do a missing submarine,
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one of the richest
men in the world,
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and nuclear missiles
have in common?
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- They all play a major
role in our next incident.
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What sank the USSR's
K-129 submarine?
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It's 1974.
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Out in the vast Pacific Ocean,
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a massive ship just unearthed
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a section of a
nuclear submarine.
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Behind this declassified
film is the story of
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a tragic and mysterious
Soviet naval incident.
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It began six years
earlier, in 1968,
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when the Soviet
sub K-129 set sail
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from the east coast of Russia
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and disappeared in the Pacific,
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sending shock waves
through Moscow.
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- They don't know if the
Americans have captured it.
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They don't know if the
Americans have sunk it.
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They don't know if
there's a technical issue.
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- [Rudy] The Soviets
scramble to find their sub.
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Meanwhile, the Americans
start hunting for it too.
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- And that's when
things get interesting.
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Because the Americans
really want this ship.
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Because of geography,
our listening systems
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are basically all
around the Pacific.
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So, by using this
kind of technology,
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the Americans are able to get
a much better sense of where
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this ship probably is,
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and it's not where the
Russians were looking.
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- [Rudy] That American
underwater listening technology,
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known as the SOSUS system,
eventually detects an
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acoustic sound that can only
be attributed to a submarine.
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It's 4,900 meters
below the surface,
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and 2,000 miles from Hawaii,
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and it's confirmed to be
the wreck of the K-129.
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Jackpot.
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- So, if the Americans
could have recovered K-129,
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it would've been a treasure
trove of golden information.
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- [Rudy] So, we knew
where the sub was,
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but the question remained,
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how did it sink in
the first place?
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- Ronnie, take a
look at this map.
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- Okay.
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- This is the last
known position of K-129.
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You can see it's about 2,000
miles away from Hawaii.
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Now, in between, we've
got these subsurface
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land masses and mountains, known
as the Musicians Seamounts,
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named after classical composers,
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like Mozart, Beethoven,
those type of guys.
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So, this terrain subsurface
was very treacherous
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and tricky to navigate.
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However, it's understood
that Soviet submarines
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used this terrain to hide
out and get close to the US.
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- So, when the boats
last heard from,
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it looks like it could have
been headed towards Hawaii.
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And, of course, all of Hawaii's
Air Force and naval bases.
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- Prime strategic targets.
- [Ronnie] Exactly.
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- And that leads us
to our first theory.
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Were the Soviets
getting in position
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for a surprise attack
on the United States?
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(tense music)
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According to former US
Navy nuclear engineer
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and author Kenneth Sewell,
the K-129's disappearance
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reveals a sinister plan
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that could have triggered
a third World War.
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- It became very obvious that
the mission of the K-129
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was to destroy Pearl Harbor
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and make it look like
the Chinese did it.
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- [Rudy] At the time, the
USSR and Communist China
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had an ideological
split and are enemies.
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But what was Sewell's proof?
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For starters,
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he interviewed colleagues
and family members of
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the K-129 crewmen who told
him the sub was carrying
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10 to 15 extra men.
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- Based on our research,
we discovered that the
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extra riders on the
submarine were KGB commandos.
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These were handpicked, they
took control of the K-129
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because it sailed straight
past its patrol box
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and approached Pearl Harbor.
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- [Rudy] Sewell believes
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satellite images and chemical
analysis of the oil slick
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at the wreck site indicate
K-129 had surfaced
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and initiated a nuclear
launch procedure.
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That's when, he says,
the captain of the sub
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most likely stepped
in and saved the day.
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- I believe that, essentially,
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the captain understood this
was an unauthorized launch
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and he knew this was
a rogue element.
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I think he put the wrong code in
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and that caused the
missile to fail,
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and sank the submarine.
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I think he is the man that
prevented World War III.
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00:19:33,450 --> 00:19:35,000
- [Rudy] But is there
really enough evidence
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to support that thesis?
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Defense policy
analyst Sarah Kreps
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says the extra crew on board
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may not have been
anybody special.
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- I do think that the
Russians and Soviets
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have kind of a history of
questionable quality control.
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It wouldn't surprise me
that they just decided,
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"Look, we need to
add these personnel.
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We're gonna just do it."
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That almost seems more
sort of incompetence.
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- [Rudy] Fine.
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But if the rogue attack
theory isn't correct,
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what's the real answer?
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A competing theory, still held
by many Soviet Navy brass,
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is that the subs
disappearance was
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accidentally caused
by the Americans.
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- The Americans
always had attacked
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submarines waiting off
port from Soviet sub pens
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to pick up the boomers and
follow them into the deep ocean.
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So that, if it did look like
a war was going to happen,
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they could be neutralized
as quickly as possible
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before they could launch.
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- [Rudy] While the
Americans claimed they had
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no submarines within 300 miles
of the K-129 at any time,
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Peter Zeihan says Soviet
intelligence claimed
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to have photographic
evidence to the contrary,
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and this is it.
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- The Soviet Union's
favorite theory, of course,
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is that the USS
Swordfish, which they say
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was the vessel that was
assigned to trail it,
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got too close and
there was a collision.
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Now, the Soviets did
show satellite photo
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of the Swordfish in Japan
undergoing repairs.
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- [Rudy] But Professor
Zeihan says this is likely
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just misinformation designed
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to cover up an
embarrassing accident.
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- Every time they have
a military mishap,
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they attempt to blame
it on the other side.
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- [Rudy] The US
has always denied
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responsibility for the wreck.
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But, in 1974, a full six
years after the sinking,
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the CIA uses a salvage ship,
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built by eccentric
billionaire Howard Hughes,
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named the Glomar Explorer,
to raise the sub.
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How much of the
sub they recovered
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is the source of intense debate.
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- You get some crazy theories.
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And the idea that the
project to recover the sub
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was really about tapping
communication lines.
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Or that the CIA managed to
recover the entire submarine
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with that 17,000 foot
long cable with a claw.
500
00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:49,290
I mean, that is some
serious arcade game.
501
00:21:49,370 --> 00:21:50,750
- [Rudy] Officially, at least,
502
00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:54,660
the US says it recovered a
30 foot section of the K-129.
503
00:21:54,750 --> 00:21:56,580
Recently, we gave the Russians
504
00:21:56,660 --> 00:21:59,160
that declassified film
we showed you earlier.
505
00:21:59,250 --> 00:22:01,790
In it, the Glomar's
crew respectfully buries
506
00:22:01,870 --> 00:22:05,000
the remains of six
Soviet sailors at sea.
507
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,500
And while there will always
be competing theories
508
00:22:07,580 --> 00:22:09,000
about what really happened,
509
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,290
today, the official
Russian Navy's explanation
510
00:22:12,370 --> 00:22:14,450
for the sinking is much simpler.
511
00:22:14,450 --> 00:22:16,450
And, frankly, more embarrassing.
512
00:22:16,540 --> 00:22:18,540
The sub flooded when
the crew accidentally
513
00:22:18,620 --> 00:22:20,290
left the snorkel mast up
514
00:22:20,370 --> 00:22:22,620
when they submerged
below periscope depth,
515
00:22:22,700 --> 00:22:25,540
allowing seawater into
the diesel engine.
516
00:22:25,620 --> 00:22:27,700
- So you would get
catastrophic destruction of
517
00:22:27,790 --> 00:22:31,330
the diesel engine
and you would get
518
00:22:31,450 --> 00:22:33,200
thousands of pounds of water
519
00:22:33,330 --> 00:22:35,500
coming into the
submarine very quickly.
520
00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:40,450
Then it compounds and
things go south from there.
521
00:22:40,540 --> 00:22:41,910
I'm just guessing that's
just what happened
522
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,330
to the sorry souls
on board that ship.
523
00:22:44,410 --> 00:22:46,660
(tense music)
524
00:22:48,450 --> 00:22:50,790
- Okay, so Rudy, why do
you think this sub sank?
525
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,750
- So, I think there's still
too many unanswered questions
526
00:22:54,830 --> 00:22:57,750
for me to put my mind
on a final answer.
527
00:22:57,830 --> 00:23:02,000
But get this, in 1994, Boris
Yeltsin, the Russian President,
528
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:06,410
he confirmed, on the
K-129, they had 98 crew.
529
00:23:06,500 --> 00:23:08,910
That's 15 more than normal.
530
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,830
And he never explained why.
531
00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:12,830
- Yeah, and if that's
not juicy enough for you,
532
00:23:12,910 --> 00:23:14,080
consider this.
533
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,790
Today, whatever
the Glomar pulled
534
00:23:15,870 --> 00:23:17,580
from the bottom of
the deep is rumored
535
00:23:17,660 --> 00:23:21,830
to be behind a locked door
in, of all places, Area 51.
536
00:23:25,950 --> 00:23:27,200
- The internet is chock
full of insane Nazi stories
537
00:23:27,290 --> 00:23:28,750
involving evil plans
538
00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:31,500
pulled straight from
a bad sci-fi movie.
539
00:23:31,540 --> 00:23:33,620
- Like one conspiracy
theory that claims
540
00:23:33,700 --> 00:23:35,410
Hitler's rocket
scientists helped him
541
00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:37,910
build a secret base on the moon.
542
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,450
- While that seems unlikely,
543
00:23:40,540 --> 00:23:43,160
the Nazis did have a
secret base way up north.
544
00:23:43,250 --> 00:23:45,160
And the question is,
545
00:23:45,250 --> 00:23:47,500
what was the purpose
of the Nazi base?
546
00:23:49,540 --> 00:23:52,000
October 14, 1944.
547
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,790
Deep in the frozen Arctic
waters outside of Greenland,
548
00:23:54,870 --> 00:23:57,040
a small American
Coast Guard task force
549
00:23:57,120 --> 00:23:58,500
is on a crucial mission,
550
00:23:58,660 --> 00:24:02,580
to intercept a giant Nazi
supply ship, the Echsterstein.
551
00:24:02,660 --> 00:24:05,450
- What we see here, in this
photo, is when the United States
552
00:24:05,540 --> 00:24:07,790
successfully captures
the Echsterstein.
553
00:24:07,870 --> 00:24:09,450
- [Rudy] And while this footage
554
00:24:09,540 --> 00:24:11,580
captures a triumphant
moment for the good guys,
555
00:24:11,660 --> 00:24:15,450
the real question is, what
was the supply ship supplying?
556
00:24:15,540 --> 00:24:17,540
Turns out, the Nazis
had been establishing
557
00:24:17,620 --> 00:24:20,250
bases in Greenland since 1942,
558
00:24:20,330 --> 00:24:22,620
uncomfortably close to the US.
559
00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:26,330
- The Nazis begin putting
assets into Greenland
560
00:24:26,370 --> 00:24:28,290
and they start
building, basically,
561
00:24:28,370 --> 00:24:29,700
sort of, these mysterious bases.
562
00:24:29,830 --> 00:24:32,580
Nobody really knows
what they're for.
563
00:24:32,700 --> 00:24:33,830
- [Rudy] But why Greenland?
564
00:24:33,910 --> 00:24:35,910
A land with limited
population due to
565
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,950
its seriously inhospitable
terrain and weather?
566
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,660
Did they know something about
some long lost secret treasure?
567
00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:46,370
Was this part of Hitler's goal
to secure ancient artifacts?
568
00:24:46,540 --> 00:24:48,450
Or was there
another explanation?
569
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,500
The Nazis not only had
bases up here on the Arctic,
570
00:24:53,540 --> 00:24:55,750
they were also thinking
of building naval bases
571
00:24:55,870 --> 00:24:58,290
in other remote
corners of the Earth.
572
00:24:58,370 --> 00:25:00,200
They even planted the Nazi flag
573
00:25:00,290 --> 00:25:02,200
all the way down in Antarctica,
574
00:25:02,290 --> 00:25:04,660
in an area known
as New Schwabia,
575
00:25:04,750 --> 00:25:06,500
but they never built
anything there.
576
00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:08,410
- Yeah, New Schwabia
conspiracy theories
577
00:25:08,410 --> 00:25:10,330
are still running rampant too.
578
00:25:10,410 --> 00:25:12,830
Some people, including
many flat Earthers,
579
00:25:12,910 --> 00:25:15,450
believe that there
are Nazis still there.
580
00:25:15,540 --> 00:25:18,330
- But, unlike those stories,
these bases in Greenland
581
00:25:18,410 --> 00:25:20,330
actually were real.
582
00:25:20,450 --> 00:25:22,250
What were the Nazis looking for?
583
00:25:22,330 --> 00:25:24,620
(tense music)
584
00:25:25,790 --> 00:25:28,830
Investigative journalist Tim
McMillan lays out one theory.
585
00:25:28,910 --> 00:25:30,910
The Nazi interest in
Greenland may have stemmed
586
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,830
from disturbed Nazi
leader, Heinrich Himmler.
587
00:25:33,910 --> 00:25:37,910
- He set off, or commissioned,
numerous ventures
588
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,700
for searching for
both lost artifacts,
589
00:25:40,790 --> 00:25:42,580
like the Arc of the Covenant.
590
00:25:42,580 --> 00:25:45,250
Or, in addition to
proving, what he believed,
591
00:25:45,330 --> 00:25:49,620
this theory that there was a
lost race of Germanic people
592
00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:51,540
that inhabited Europe
593
00:25:51,620 --> 00:25:55,950
prior to the early part
of the first century.
594
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,040
- [Rudy] Remember, the
Nazis had no qualms
595
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,410
about building bases
anywhere they could.
596
00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:02,700
In fact, that was
kind of the point.
597
00:26:02,790 --> 00:26:04,000
- There are some in Egypt.
598
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:06,330
There are some all over
Africa, Madagascar.
599
00:26:06,370 --> 00:26:07,830
There are places
where they set up
600
00:26:07,910 --> 00:26:10,040
and it's very remote operations.
601
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,370
That is in line with the
German idea of global conquest.
602
00:26:14,450 --> 00:26:15,830
- [Rudy] But journalist
Joe Pappalardo
603
00:26:15,910 --> 00:26:18,790
says building bases in
Greenland actually made sense,
604
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:20,500
and it had nothing to do with
605
00:26:20,540 --> 00:26:23,160
spooky tales of
ancient civilizations.
606
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,120
- So Greenland is a perfect
location for a Nazi base.
607
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,620
It's on the way
608
00:26:27,700 --> 00:26:30,000
to Europe from
the United States.
609
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,500
So its strategic location
means everything.
610
00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:35,450
- There is a much more
reasonable explanation,
611
00:26:35,540 --> 00:26:37,250
and that is the weather.
612
00:26:37,370 --> 00:26:38,700
- [Rudy] That strategic value,
613
00:26:38,790 --> 00:26:40,660
and the solution
to this mystery,
614
00:26:40,750 --> 00:26:42,330
is found in the skies above.
615
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,500
- The intention for
these research stations
616
00:26:46,620 --> 00:26:49,620
was to collect
meteorological data.
617
00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:51,080
- [Rudy] While it might
not seem like the most
618
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,700
important component for
turning the tides of war,
619
00:26:53,790 --> 00:26:55,750
weather is a major
factor in planning
620
00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:59,580
all military operations,
land, sea, and air.
621
00:26:59,660 --> 00:27:02,160
The side with the most
meteorological intelligence
622
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,660
has a distinct advantage
on the battlefield.
623
00:27:04,750 --> 00:27:06,830
And remember, this
was before the age of
624
00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:08,540
Doppler radar satellites.
625
00:27:08,540 --> 00:27:10,750
Predicting the weather
was no easy feat.
626
00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:14,330
In fact, you often needed
feet on the ground.
627
00:27:14,410 --> 00:27:16,290
- Weather in the
northern hemisphere
628
00:27:16,370 --> 00:27:18,830
travels from west to east.
629
00:27:18,910 --> 00:27:21,450
And, ultimately, the Allies,
630
00:27:21,540 --> 00:27:23,830
because they were
west of Nazi Germany,
631
00:27:23,870 --> 00:27:26,120
were much better able to
predict weather patterns
632
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:27,950
as they moved eastward.
633
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,660
The Nazis needed to have that
same information if they were
634
00:27:31,700 --> 00:27:34,040
going to be able to
successfully monitor weather.
635
00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:35,830
- [Rudy] These
bases primarily had
636
00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:37,750
small German teams
of around a dozen,
637
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:40,000
including a handful
of Nazi officers
638
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,000
backed by a larger
group of enlisted men.
639
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,500
The bases were packed full
of measuring instruments
640
00:27:44,580 --> 00:27:48,330
and data recording equipment,
but were low on firepower.
641
00:27:48,410 --> 00:27:51,790
And when the US realized what
Hitler was up to in Greenland,
642
00:27:51,870 --> 00:27:55,000
thousands of troops entered
the arctic circle after D-Day
643
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,250
to neutralize the Nazi threat.
644
00:27:57,330 --> 00:27:58,870
- The Americans move in
645
00:27:58,950 --> 00:28:02,830
and they begin securing the
eastern coast of Greenland.
646
00:28:02,910 --> 00:28:06,080
They enlist the help of
local indigenous groups
647
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,830
who were allied with
the the Americans.
648
00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:14,750
And, literally, traveling
and fighting on dog sleds.
649
00:28:14,830 --> 00:28:17,000
- Ultimately, the Americans
and their new allies
650
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,370
are successful in
taking down a number of
651
00:28:20,450 --> 00:28:23,450
these secret Nazi bases and
652
00:28:23,540 --> 00:28:26,250
chasing away the
German presence.
653
00:28:26,370 --> 00:28:28,830
(tense music)
654
00:28:28,910 --> 00:28:30,290
- Okay, I get it.
655
00:28:30,370 --> 00:28:32,370
The Nazis needed to build
their own weather stations
656
00:28:32,370 --> 00:28:35,200
and Greenland was the
perfect spot for that.
657
00:28:35,290 --> 00:28:37,160
- Yep, after losing
this conflict,
658
00:28:37,250 --> 00:28:41,120
the Nazis could only gather
weather data from U-boats.
659
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,080
Not surprisingly, just
seven months later,
660
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,790
the Germans would lose the war.
661
00:28:49,750 --> 00:28:50,200
- In the early months
of the war in Ukraine,
662
00:28:50,580 --> 00:28:51,910
a legendary ace fighter pilot
663
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,040
gained worldwide internet fame
664
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,790
for defending the
skies of his homeland.
665
00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:59,870
- He even had an awesome
nickname, "The Ghost of Kiev."
666
00:28:59,950 --> 00:29:01,870
But the big question,
667
00:29:01,950 --> 00:29:05,290
what's the truth behind the
legend of "The Ghost of Kiev?"
668
00:29:05,370 --> 00:29:07,330
(dramatic music)
669
00:29:08,450 --> 00:29:10,330
February 2022.
670
00:29:10,410 --> 00:29:12,250
Just days into the Ukraine War,
671
00:29:12,370 --> 00:29:15,950
smartphone video appears to
capture a 21st century dog fight
672
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,040
in the skies above Kiev.
673
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,540
An SU-35 fighter jet, Russia's
most advanced war plane,
674
00:29:21,620 --> 00:29:23,410
is streaking across the sky.
675
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:25,620
It's a solid tactical aircraft.
676
00:29:25,700 --> 00:29:28,450
Then, a heat-seeking
missile chases it down,
677
00:29:28,540 --> 00:29:30,080
blasting it into bits.
678
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,950
Another plane appears, this
one, a Ukrainian MIG-29.
679
00:29:33,950 --> 00:29:36,000
It's a multi roll
fighter, but older,
680
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,870
and inferior to the SU-35.
681
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,700
As the video continues,
the MIG pilot then performs
682
00:29:41,790 --> 00:29:43,500
a series of barrel rolls
683
00:29:43,620 --> 00:29:45,580
as a kind of end zone dance.
684
00:29:45,660 --> 00:29:47,000
This Maverick-like cockiness
685
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,000
only adds to the
pilot's mystique.
686
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,910
- It had a classic romanticism.
687
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,040
And when you have video
evidence to support it,
688
00:29:55,120 --> 00:30:00,500
it starts to perpetuate
this legend and it got legs.
689
00:30:00,540 --> 00:30:04,790
One Ukrainian MIG-29 pilot
against the Russian hordes.
690
00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:06,830
- [Rudy] Then the Ukrainian
Department of Defense
691
00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:10,580
retweets the video, seemingly
verifying it is real.
692
00:30:10,700 --> 00:30:12,160
The clip goes viral,
693
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,040
and the superstar pilot is
dubbed "The Ghost of Kiev."
694
00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:18,790
- "The Ghost of Kiev,"
all of a sudden,
695
00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:20,870
told the Ukrainians that, "No.
696
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:23,620
We can win this,
we can fight back."
697
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:25,080
And he led by example.
698
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,000
That's something that no one
thought was going to happen.
699
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,750
- [Rudy] One day after the
dogfight video goes public,
700
00:30:30,830 --> 00:30:33,660
former Ukrainian President,
Petro Poroshenko,
701
00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:35,660
shares an image of
the unnamed pilot,
702
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:39,540
claiming the Ghost shot down
six planes in a single day.
703
00:30:39,620 --> 00:30:42,290
Other photos pop up on the
internet, like this one.
704
00:30:42,370 --> 00:30:45,080
Showing the supposed Ghost
in front of his plane
705
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,410
with the Ukrainian
insignia on his uniform,
706
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:50,450
and the Ukrainian flag flying
proudly in the background.
707
00:30:51,540 --> 00:30:53,000
But, hang on.
708
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,950
An Ace is a pilot who achieves
five air to air kills.
709
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,500
Even Maverick didn't
accomplish that
710
00:30:57,620 --> 00:30:59,790
until the second Top Gun movie.
711
00:30:59,870 --> 00:31:02,830
Of the 60,000 US fighter
pilots over the years,
712
00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:05,370
less than 1,500 became Aces.
713
00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:09,160
So, what's the truth
behind "The Ghost of Kiev?"
714
00:31:09,290 --> 00:31:13,330
Is he a real life combat
Ace or just a mighty myth?
715
00:31:14,580 --> 00:31:16,120
- The footage is incredible.
716
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,080
But, my first question is,
717
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,870
could an old Ukrainian MIG-29
718
00:31:20,950 --> 00:31:24,250
go head-to-head against
Russia's advanced SU-35?
719
00:31:24,330 --> 00:31:26,790
- Well, the SU-35
should be superior
720
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:28,330
in just about every way.
721
00:31:28,410 --> 00:31:30,450
But, remember, these MIGs
are smaller, they're lighter,
722
00:31:30,540 --> 00:31:32,950
and they're just as
fast as that SU-35.
723
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,000
They both reach speeds of
about 1,500 miles an hour.
724
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,120
Now, another problem
with the SU-35
725
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,040
is it's a little bit hyped up.
726
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,580
Aviation experts say that it
might look good in an air show
727
00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:44,040
and if you look at this video,
728
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,040
it's performing an
Immelmann turn here.
729
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,040
It's gonna go up into
its turn, turn around,
730
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,330
and then keep going straight.
731
00:31:50,370 --> 00:31:51,950
And then it's gonna
perform a capability
732
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,870
known as super maneuverability.
733
00:31:53,950 --> 00:31:56,200
That being said, this wow factor
734
00:31:56,330 --> 00:31:58,830
doesn't necessarily
translate into real life.
735
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,200
(tense music)
736
00:32:02,540 --> 00:32:05,160
- At first glance, the video
737
00:32:05,250 --> 00:32:07,450
of the purported "Ghost of Kiev"
738
00:32:07,540 --> 00:32:11,330
shooting down a Russian
jet seems plausible.
739
00:32:11,410 --> 00:32:13,500
- [ROnnie] Former Green Beret
Mark Sauter breaks down
740
00:32:13,580 --> 00:32:16,830
the famous dogfight video to
determine its authenticity.
741
00:32:16,910 --> 00:32:18,580
- It passed the
initial sniff test,
742
00:32:18,660 --> 00:32:19,830
but there were clues.
743
00:32:19,950 --> 00:32:23,450
Doing barrel rolls as an
exuberant celebration
744
00:32:23,540 --> 00:32:25,910
of shooting down the
Russian jet could happen.
745
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,160
But, a wise pilot
would probably not
746
00:32:29,290 --> 00:32:31,410
be fooling around doing a stunt
747
00:32:31,540 --> 00:32:34,040
when there could be other
aircraft on his tail.
748
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,500
And then, this is most
telling, here it is.
749
00:32:37,620 --> 00:32:40,450
The plane literally disappears.
750
00:32:41,410 --> 00:32:43,750
And that shows you
that this is fake.
751
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:45,540
- [Rudy] Forensic
video analysis reveals
752
00:32:45,620 --> 00:32:49,250
that this is actually a sequence
from the 2013 video game,
753
00:32:49,250 --> 00:32:51,870
Digital Combat Simulator World.
754
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,040
Okay, so we know this
one video is fake,
755
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,290
but that doesn't prove "The
Ghost of Kiev" isn't real.
756
00:32:57,370 --> 00:33:00,370
Which brings us back to that
photo of the alleged Ace.
757
00:33:00,450 --> 00:33:04,160
Historian Alex Wellerstein
studies wartime photography.
758
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,160
- There have been photo
manipulation, in wartime,
759
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,000
going back to the Civil
War in the United States.
760
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,250
If you really want a
myth to be effective,
761
00:33:15,330 --> 00:33:17,830
you don't just have one
picture or one video,
762
00:33:17,870 --> 00:33:19,910
you establish a sort
of trail of evidence
763
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,620
that makes it look like
764
00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:25,040
this is something that
really exists in the world.
765
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,500
- [Rudy] In this instance,
a tool called noise analysis
766
00:33:27,580 --> 00:33:30,290
reveals that some of the
photos are clearly faked,
767
00:33:30,290 --> 00:33:32,790
with the pilot's face,
uniform insignia,
768
00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:36,410
and the Ukrainian flag being
added to another photo.
769
00:33:36,500 --> 00:33:39,040
- And, those, you actually
can, pretty easily,
770
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,700
see the evidence
of manipulation.
771
00:33:40,790 --> 00:33:44,160
You can run them through
special filters that show you
772
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,250
which of those
pixels don't really
773
00:33:46,330 --> 00:33:49,160
go with the other pixels and
see where a face was added,
774
00:33:49,250 --> 00:33:51,620
or where a flag was
added, and so on.
775
00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:53,700
- [Rudy] But, by now,
the legend has taken on
776
00:33:53,790 --> 00:33:55,290
a momentum of its own.
777
00:33:55,370 --> 00:33:58,250
And major media outlets claim
to have identified "The Ghost"
778
00:33:58,330 --> 00:34:00,330
as Major Stephan Tarabalka,
779
00:34:00,450 --> 00:34:03,000
credited with shooting
down 40 planes.
780
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,450
The Ukrainian Defense
Ministry then confirms
781
00:34:05,450 --> 00:34:08,330
he's been tragically killed in
action during an air battle
782
00:34:08,410 --> 00:34:11,450
and awards him the title,
"Hero of Ukraine."
783
00:34:11,540 --> 00:34:13,540
But experts, like former
intelligence officer
784
00:34:13,620 --> 00:34:15,620
Joseph Assad, have doubts.
785
00:34:15,700 --> 00:34:17,830
- I believe that Ukraine had,
786
00:34:17,910 --> 00:34:19,870
not just their
intelligence organizations,
787
00:34:19,950 --> 00:34:23,450
but an army of cyber warriors
788
00:34:23,540 --> 00:34:27,330
that were broadcasting
and amplifying
789
00:34:27,410 --> 00:34:31,200
a lot of the messages,
and a lot of the images,
790
00:34:31,290 --> 00:34:34,330
and videos that we were
seeing coming outta Ukraine.
791
00:34:34,450 --> 00:34:36,620
- The Ukrainians
made a big decision.
792
00:34:36,700 --> 00:34:40,330
Instead of denying or
refuting this video,
793
00:34:40,410 --> 00:34:42,660
and the general story
of "The Ghost of Kiev,"
794
00:34:42,700 --> 00:34:44,290
they decided to go with it.
795
00:34:44,370 --> 00:34:49,250
To the point where the
Ukrainian Ministry of Defense
796
00:34:49,330 --> 00:34:51,540
retweeted this bogus video,
797
00:34:51,620 --> 00:34:55,700
thereby, giving it a stamp
of accuracy for many people.
798
00:34:55,830 --> 00:34:57,950
- I think the myth
799
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,290
of "The Ghost of Kiev"
had its utility and,
800
00:35:01,370 --> 00:35:05,750
ultimately, proved to be
a smart bit of propaganda.
801
00:35:05,830 --> 00:35:07,790
(tense music)
802
00:35:08,950 --> 00:35:10,660
- On May 2nd, 2022,
803
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:13,500
Ukraine's Air Force
Command finally came clean
804
00:35:13,580 --> 00:35:15,580
admitting on
Facebook that, quote,
805
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:18,120
"The Ghost of Kiev
is a superhero legend
806
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,330
whose character was
created by Ukrainians."
807
00:35:20,410 --> 00:35:22,200
- The myth may be debunked,
808
00:35:22,290 --> 00:35:25,500
but the patriotic spirit
behind it lives on.
809
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:30,290
- It's secret weapon time.
810
00:35:30,370 --> 00:35:31,330
Every week, we take a look
811
00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:33,370
at a mysterious
weapon from history.
812
00:35:33,370 --> 00:35:35,660
And truth be told,
some of these deserve
813
00:35:35,790 --> 00:35:37,500
to be left in the idea phase.
814
00:35:37,580 --> 00:35:40,120
- This one's a Cold War
relic that's half plane
815
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,580
and half boat.
816
00:35:41,700 --> 00:35:43,620
It reappeared a few years
ago and people wondered,
817
00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:46,080
what was this weapon
supposed to do?
818
00:35:46,950 --> 00:35:48,200
June 2020.
819
00:35:48,330 --> 00:35:50,000
This video shows one of the most
820
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,330
peculiar oddities
in aviation history
821
00:35:52,450 --> 00:35:55,830
floating into the ocean for
the first time in decades.
822
00:35:55,950 --> 00:35:57,450
Look closer at this video
823
00:35:57,540 --> 00:35:59,500
and try to make
sense of the design.
824
00:35:59,580 --> 00:36:02,410
Those jet engines up
near the nose cone.
825
00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:05,250
And are those rocket launchers
on top of the fuselage?
826
00:36:06,370 --> 00:36:09,500
This is the Project 903,
Lun-class Ekranoplan.
827
00:36:09,580 --> 00:36:11,660
And to understand
how it wound up here,
828
00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:13,120
we need to rewind,
829
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,660
oh, about 60 years.
830
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,870
(tape rewinding)
831
00:36:20,450 --> 00:36:23,910
- It all started back
in the '60s when the US
832
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,410
branch of the
intelligence community
833
00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:30,450
figured out that the Soviets
were developing this system.
834
00:36:30,540 --> 00:36:33,040
And it was,
835
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,500
to put it bluntly,
just a monster.
836
00:36:36,580 --> 00:36:39,120
- [Ronnie] Now, sea planes
had been around since 1912,
837
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,910
but this was something
entirely different.
838
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,620
The Americans got their first
glimpse of the ekranoplan
839
00:36:44,620 --> 00:36:46,750
when a spy satellite
took this photo
840
00:36:46,870 --> 00:36:50,000
at the Kaspiysk Base in 1967.
841
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,330
Take a closer look
and see how it dwarfs
842
00:36:52,410 --> 00:36:54,700
the cyclone class patrol
ship right next to it.
843
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,500
- It's a bit of a, sort
of Frankenstein vehicle
844
00:37:01,540 --> 00:37:05,620
that is kind of the envy
of the United States.
845
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:07,200
- [Ronnie] Footage
would later emerge
846
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,620
of another model in action.
847
00:37:08,700 --> 00:37:11,000
The American's nicknamed
the ekranoplan,
848
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,750
the "Caspian Sea Monster."
849
00:37:12,830 --> 00:37:15,200
But this thing was no
joke, it was a problem.
850
00:37:15,330 --> 00:37:16,500
And a puzzle.
851
00:37:16,540 --> 00:37:18,000
- When the CIA first
caught wind of it,
852
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,580
the first thing
you're thinking is,
853
00:37:19,660 --> 00:37:20,410
what is this?
854
00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:21,830
What is it gonna be used for?
855
00:37:21,870 --> 00:37:24,250
People were probably
thinking, this is ridiculous.
856
00:37:24,370 --> 00:37:25,910
Then, years later,
when you start seeing
857
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,450
a actual working ekranoplan,
you have to make sure
858
00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:31,580
that you have a firm grip
859
00:37:31,660 --> 00:37:34,450
of what they intend
to do with this
860
00:37:34,540 --> 00:37:36,250
and what are its capabilities.
861
00:37:36,330 --> 00:37:37,870
- [Ronnie] How much
of a game changer
862
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,620
are we talking about?
863
00:37:39,700 --> 00:37:42,910
Well, in this footage of a
later, more advanced model,
864
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,370
you can see it firing missiles
865
00:37:44,450 --> 00:37:46,870
from the top of its
peculiar airframe.
866
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:48,200
Pretty freaky, huh?
867
00:37:49,290 --> 00:37:51,160
That second ekranoplan
was designed
868
00:37:51,250 --> 00:37:53,750
to launch a attacks
on surface ships.
869
00:37:53,830 --> 00:37:56,500
Hard to judge whether or
not that would've worked.
870
00:37:56,580 --> 00:37:58,580
- Maybe the Soviets
were trying to develop
871
00:37:58,660 --> 00:38:01,500
a platform that flies low
enough to defeat radar,
872
00:38:01,580 --> 00:38:04,330
but out of the water
to defeat sonar.
873
00:38:04,410 --> 00:38:06,160
Modern anti-ship missiles,
874
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,200
like the US Navy's
harpoon system,
875
00:38:08,290 --> 00:38:10,500
sort of fly in that dead space.
876
00:38:10,540 --> 00:38:12,750
- Let's dig in to see
just what this thing was,
877
00:38:12,830 --> 00:38:14,000
and what happened to it.
878
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,330
(tense music)
879
00:38:17,870 --> 00:38:21,330
Author and geopolitical analyst
Peter Zeihan says the key is
880
00:38:21,450 --> 00:38:23,830
what you're seeing here,
as the plane flies.
881
00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:26,790
People, that's its
maximum intended altitude.
882
00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:30,290
- Now, the whole idea of this
was that it would be able to
883
00:38:30,370 --> 00:38:34,830
fly at incredibly low
altitudes, well below radar.
884
00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:36,830
And that would allow
it to, theoretically,
885
00:38:36,910 --> 00:38:38,830
sneak into the envelope of
886
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:40,910
the American carrier
battle groups.
887
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,000
And then, once it got
to pointblank range,
888
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,000
it would launch a variety
of cruise missiles
889
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,620
with nuclear warheads
890
00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:49,290
that would blow the
entire formation to hell.
891
00:38:49,370 --> 00:38:50,660
- [Ronnie] On top of
the cruise missiles,
892
00:38:50,660 --> 00:38:54,330
the ekranoplan had 23
different mounted gun turrets.
893
00:38:54,410 --> 00:38:56,200
But, probably, its
most impressive feature
894
00:38:56,290 --> 00:38:59,160
was its use of ground
effects aerodynamics,
895
00:38:59,250 --> 00:39:01,450
which is the reduced
drag an aircraft's wings
896
00:39:01,540 --> 00:39:03,620
generate when it's
close to the surface.
897
00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:05,500
A cushion of air
would allow the craft
898
00:39:05,620 --> 00:39:08,330
to fly just 13 feet
above the sea's surface
899
00:39:08,410 --> 00:39:10,870
at a speed of 200 to 250 knots,
900
00:39:10,950 --> 00:39:14,910
making it virtually undetectable
to both radar and sonar.
901
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,080
- It is, for lack of a better
term, like a hovercraft.
902
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,620
In this case, a very
large hovercraft
903
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:23,700
that is designed to
glide over water.
904
00:39:23,790 --> 00:39:25,910
- [Rudy] So, did the
plane perform as hoped?
905
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:27,830
Well, not exactly.
906
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,120
- Now, in the end, it
didn't prove feasible.
907
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,910
There are a number
of obvious problems.
908
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,200
The engineering for keeping
909
00:39:35,290 --> 00:39:37,790
something like this
running is spectacular.
910
00:39:37,870 --> 00:39:40,580
And if one wave gets
a little bit too high,
911
00:39:40,660 --> 00:39:42,620
the whole thing
goes into the water.
912
00:39:42,700 --> 00:39:44,250
- [Ronnie] That
meant the ekranoplan
913
00:39:44,330 --> 00:39:45,700
couldn't fly in rough weather.
914
00:39:45,790 --> 00:39:47,950
Plus, it was a
beast to navigate.
915
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,830
Too heavy, too unstable.
916
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:53,330
- The mechanics of
keeping this thing aloft
917
00:39:53,410 --> 00:39:56,080
and also being able to serve
an operational function,
918
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,910
in terms of firing
missiles, was just limited.
919
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,290
And so, it turned out
920
00:40:01,370 --> 00:40:04,830
just the physics of
this couldn't work out.
921
00:40:04,910 --> 00:40:07,000
- [Rudy] So, how did this
once promising warship
922
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,370
end up collecting barnacles
in the Caspian Sea?
923
00:40:10,450 --> 00:40:12,000
- At the collapse
of the Soviet Union,
924
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,040
the resources necessary
to continue the programs
925
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,830
just aren't there anymore.
926
00:40:16,870 --> 00:40:19,750
The hybrid sea vessel
was just abandoned.
927
00:40:19,830 --> 00:40:24,830
Left in place, beached, and
left to the elements to reside.
928
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:27,290
Somewhat of a tragic
ending if you consider
929
00:40:27,370 --> 00:40:29,580
all the work that went
into it for decades.
930
00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:32,790
(tense music)
931
00:40:33,830 --> 00:40:36,660
- Now, before anyone gets
worried, there's no indication
932
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:39,330
the ekranoplan is
rising from the dead.
933
00:40:39,410 --> 00:40:42,370
- The truth, it's
moved to a museum.
934
00:40:42,450 --> 00:40:44,000
Well, that's it
for this episode.
935
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,250
I'm Rudy Reyes.
936
00:40:45,330 --> 00:40:46,410
- And I'm Ronnie Adkins.
937
00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:47,700
Thanks for joining us.
938
00:40:47,790 --> 00:40:50,000
And, until next time,
keep your powder dry.
939
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,290
- And your head on a swivel.
940
00:40:51,370 --> 00:40:52,120
Goodnight.
941
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,790
(dramatic music)
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