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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:11,712 --> 00:00:14,682 Looking back on my boyhood and adolescence in South Texas, 4 00:00:14,715 --> 00:00:16,317 I spent an incredible amount of time 5 00:00:16,350 --> 00:00:18,086 in gas stations, honky-tonks, 6 00:00:18,119 --> 00:00:22,423 and other off-the-beaten-path places trying to appear cool 7 00:00:22,456 --> 00:00:25,293 while obsessively following the descent of a steel ball 8 00:00:25,326 --> 00:00:28,429 down the playing surface of a garishly-lit machine, 9 00:00:28,462 --> 00:00:29,663 a pinball machine. 10 00:00:29,697 --> 00:00:39,740 11 00:00:39,740 --> 00:00:49,750 12 00:01:33,261 --> 00:01:43,304 13 00:01:43,304 --> 00:01:53,314 14 00:02:13,801 --> 00:02:17,371 15 00:02:26,013 --> 00:02:30,318 16 00:02:30,351 --> 00:02:32,486 I'd come in with my grandfather standing on pop crates 17 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,188 to play the pinball machines. 18 00:02:34,222 --> 00:02:36,224 I think I was about eight years old. 19 00:02:36,257 --> 00:02:38,559 I used to hang out at the corner store 20 00:02:38,592 --> 00:02:40,728 and my parents were always lookin' for me. 21 00:02:44,298 --> 00:02:45,799 I would go away with my grandparents 22 00:02:45,833 --> 00:02:47,668 every summer and they'd say, "Hey, you're in the arcade. 23 00:02:47,701 --> 00:02:49,970 Here's a roll of quarters, go have fun." 24 00:02:50,003 --> 00:02:52,172 All these back-lot mom and pa stores and everything 25 00:02:52,206 --> 00:02:54,708 had, uh, one or two pinball machines there. 26 00:02:54,742 --> 00:03:01,014 27 00:03:01,048 --> 00:03:03,451 Apartment houses would have 'em in the laundry rooms. 28 00:03:03,484 --> 00:03:05,286 If you had a gas station where they weren't doin' 29 00:03:05,319 --> 00:03:07,488 car repair anymore, they'd take the service bays 30 00:03:07,521 --> 00:03:09,823 and fill 'em with pinball machines. 31 00:03:09,857 --> 00:03:12,660 Playing at our local bowling alley was the place 32 00:03:12,693 --> 00:03:14,928 where parents told you not to go. 33 00:03:14,962 --> 00:03:17,798 I guess it was the kind of age when you don't want to do things 34 00:03:17,831 --> 00:03:18,899 with your parents. 35 00:03:18,932 --> 00:03:20,501 My parents used to think I was going to church 36 00:03:20,534 --> 00:03:22,403 Sunday mornings and I'd be at the local hangout 37 00:03:22,436 --> 00:03:23,904 playing pinballs. 38 00:03:23,937 --> 00:03:26,640 I also remember my father dragging me out by my ear 39 00:03:26,674 --> 00:03:28,676 saying that I spent too much money. 40 00:03:28,709 --> 00:03:32,045 41 00:03:32,079 --> 00:03:34,515 I used to sneak down there without telling anybody 42 00:03:34,548 --> 00:03:37,184 and on my own, and practice like crazy. 43 00:03:37,217 --> 00:03:38,686 There was probably a crowd hangin' around 44 00:03:38,719 --> 00:03:39,953 a pinball machine and we used to have to wait 45 00:03:39,987 --> 00:03:42,256 to play and line up your coin. 46 00:03:42,290 --> 00:03:44,592 And you'd know which one was your coin. 47 00:03:44,625 --> 00:03:47,728 I started playing at, like, the local café. 48 00:03:47,761 --> 00:03:49,830 Took my books to study there. 49 00:03:49,863 --> 00:03:52,433 It was a great break from studying. 50 00:03:52,466 --> 00:03:54,302 Sometimes it replaced studying. 51 00:03:54,335 --> 00:03:58,005 52 00:03:58,038 --> 00:04:00,808 I used to steal pop bottles from the back of the gas station 53 00:04:00,841 --> 00:04:03,210 and trade 'em in for three cents, 54 00:04:03,243 --> 00:04:05,613 and when I had enough dimes to go play pinball 55 00:04:05,646 --> 00:04:08,616 I would wander all over town just putting dimes 56 00:04:08,649 --> 00:04:11,885 in pinball machines. 57 00:04:11,919 --> 00:04:13,621 On a Saturday afternoon I'd run it up 58 00:04:13,654 --> 00:04:15,423 to the highest amount that you could win, 59 00:04:15,456 --> 00:04:17,024 which was about 15 games. 60 00:04:17,057 --> 00:04:18,792 I would sell 'em for 50 cents. 61 00:04:18,826 --> 00:04:20,127 Sell 'em 12 games. 62 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,662 Tell 'em to leave me three. 63 00:04:21,695 --> 00:04:23,664 They'd lose 'em in about 30 minutes. 64 00:04:23,697 --> 00:04:24,932 They'd leave me three. 65 00:04:24,965 --> 00:04:27,401 I'd run it back up to 15 again, sell 'em again. 66 00:04:27,435 --> 00:04:29,503 That's how we'd spend a Saturday afternoon. 67 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,174 If you say pinball, people are like, "What?" 68 00:04:34,207 --> 00:04:34,975 Or, "What's that?" 69 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:38,512 I mean, there are many kids today 70 00:04:38,546 --> 00:04:40,981 that--that don't know what a pinball machine is. 71 00:04:43,050 --> 00:04:53,093 72 00:04:53,093 --> 00:05:03,170 73 00:05:23,557 --> 00:05:27,828 If you were growing up in the '60s, '70s, and '80s, 74 00:05:27,861 --> 00:05:30,598 you could go to the movies, you could listen to the radio 75 00:05:30,631 --> 00:05:33,066 and music, and you could play pinball. 76 00:05:33,100 --> 00:05:36,570 And now here we are twenty years later, 77 00:05:36,604 --> 00:05:39,339 and if you wanted to re-live a song that you remember 78 00:05:39,373 --> 00:05:42,342 from your youth, you can put it on your iPod. 79 00:05:42,376 --> 00:05:46,146 If you remember a movie that you particularly liked as a kid, 80 00:05:46,179 --> 00:05:49,383 you can get the DVD of it, but when it comes to pinball, 81 00:05:49,417 --> 00:05:52,553 since it only exists in the real world 82 00:05:52,586 --> 00:05:55,155 and can't be digitally duplicated, 83 00:05:55,188 --> 00:05:57,491 there is no place to play pinball, 84 00:05:57,525 --> 00:05:59,593 and yet in everybody's mind 85 00:05:59,627 --> 00:06:01,995 they remember those games from their youth, 86 00:06:02,029 --> 00:06:04,665 and they come in here and they see something 87 00:06:04,698 --> 00:06:08,469 that they haven't seen in 25 years, 88 00:06:08,502 --> 00:06:11,805 something that was a major part of their youth. 89 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,574 You know, "The first time I kissed a girl, 90 00:06:13,607 --> 00:06:15,909 I was playing this machine." 91 00:06:15,943 --> 00:06:19,379 And they see that and they just get this look 92 00:06:19,413 --> 00:06:22,215 on their face of pure nostalgia. 93 00:06:22,249 --> 00:06:26,420 94 00:06:26,454 --> 00:06:29,056 Kids today don't really understand pinball. 95 00:06:29,089 --> 00:06:32,693 They come in looking for the Dance Dance Revolution machine 96 00:06:32,726 --> 00:06:36,630 or the fighting video game or the really fast driving game, 97 00:06:36,664 --> 00:06:38,566 and all they see are these pokey, 98 00:06:38,599 --> 00:06:40,400 slow, old pinball machines that just go, 99 00:06:40,434 --> 00:06:41,669 "Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing," 100 00:06:41,702 --> 00:06:43,070 and they don't understand it. 101 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:49,076 You look around here, all you see is old farts. 102 00:06:49,109 --> 00:06:51,945 You don't see the kids that were playing pinball 103 00:06:51,979 --> 00:06:54,281 when I was growin' up. 104 00:06:54,314 --> 00:06:55,549 I mean, the kids today are just-- 105 00:06:55,583 --> 00:06:57,150 you know, that between the computer games 106 00:06:57,184 --> 00:06:58,619 and the home games and the-- 107 00:06:58,652 --> 00:07:01,855 and the Nintendos and the Sega systems 108 00:07:01,889 --> 00:07:04,191 and Gameboys and-- 109 00:07:04,224 --> 00:07:06,259 they just won't play pinball. 110 00:07:06,293 --> 00:07:08,896 I can remember when I was growing up, 111 00:07:08,929 --> 00:07:11,198 we used to eat all our meals at home, 112 00:07:11,231 --> 00:07:13,333 and we used to go out for entertainment. 113 00:07:13,366 --> 00:07:14,635 We'd go to the movies. 114 00:07:14,668 --> 00:07:16,036 We'd go bowling. 115 00:07:16,069 --> 00:07:19,473 We'd go outside the house to have our entertainment, 116 00:07:19,507 --> 00:07:22,009 and now everybody eats out. 117 00:07:22,042 --> 00:07:23,844 Everybody always goes to restaurants. 118 00:07:23,877 --> 00:07:25,813 They don't cook at home very much, 119 00:07:25,846 --> 00:07:28,682 but they get all their entertainment at home 120 00:07:28,716 --> 00:07:30,884 through their big screen theater room 121 00:07:30,918 --> 00:07:32,853 or their game room that they've got 122 00:07:32,886 --> 00:07:34,688 in the basement. 123 00:07:34,722 --> 00:07:37,925 Public places of amusement have been falling by the wayside 124 00:07:37,958 --> 00:07:40,260 in America like crazy. 125 00:07:40,293 --> 00:07:41,595 You can't find a pinball machine. 126 00:07:41,629 --> 00:07:43,296 I mean, most arcades there's no pinball machine. 127 00:07:43,330 --> 00:07:45,599 There's no more arcades in malls in most cases. 128 00:07:45,633 --> 00:07:46,800 Even bars. 129 00:07:46,834 --> 00:07:48,335 I mean, all the bars today have a Megatouch, 130 00:07:48,368 --> 00:07:51,338 the jukebox, and a pool table, but no more pinballs. 131 00:07:51,371 --> 00:07:54,074 I mean, very, very, very, very few. 132 00:07:54,107 --> 00:07:56,476 Pinball is finished in France. 133 00:07:56,510 --> 00:08:00,213 In England it's finished long times ago. 134 00:08:00,247 --> 00:08:01,314 Right? 135 00:08:01,348 --> 00:08:03,551 In Italy you can find one pinball. 136 00:08:03,584 --> 00:08:06,386 In Germany, no one pinball. 137 00:08:07,254 --> 00:08:09,723 In Holland, no pinball. 138 00:08:09,757 --> 00:08:12,993 Even in Belgium, it was a pinball paradise. 139 00:08:13,026 --> 00:08:14,327 No pinball. 140 00:08:14,361 --> 00:08:15,929 It's finished. 141 00:08:15,963 --> 00:08:26,006 142 00:08:26,006 --> 00:08:38,552 143 00:08:39,687 --> 00:08:41,254 You know, they said pinball was dead. 144 00:08:41,288 --> 00:08:43,190 It's not. 145 00:08:43,223 --> 00:08:44,692 I was very surprised that other people 146 00:08:44,725 --> 00:08:45,525 were like this. 147 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:46,627 I thought we were just crazy. 148 00:08:46,660 --> 00:08:47,595 It starts with one. 149 00:08:47,628 --> 00:08:48,328 Buy another one. 150 00:08:48,361 --> 00:08:49,129 And then another one. 151 00:08:49,162 --> 00:08:50,163 Then, like, four. 152 00:08:50,197 --> 00:08:52,032 And I was outgrowing the family room. 153 00:08:52,065 --> 00:08:53,533 I'd buy 20 here, 30 here. 154 00:08:53,567 --> 00:08:55,035 And then your wife starts to say, 155 00:08:55,068 --> 00:08:56,670 "Uh, what's goin' on here?" 156 00:08:56,704 --> 00:08:58,138 We got enough, no. 157 00:08:58,171 --> 00:08:59,306 -Yes. -No. 158 00:08:59,339 --> 00:09:00,540 Sixty games. 159 00:09:00,574 --> 00:09:01,775 -Three hundred fifty or so. -Four hundred. 160 00:09:01,809 --> 00:09:03,577 I'm close to 600. Sixteen hundred. 161 00:09:03,611 --> 00:09:06,647 It was a very rapid decline into obsession, I think. 162 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:15,623 163 00:09:15,656 --> 00:09:17,557 Come on this way. 164 00:09:17,591 --> 00:09:19,526 Show you some more. 165 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,395 We have about 150 in here. 166 00:09:22,429 --> 00:09:24,464 Once you get the lure of the silver ball in you, 167 00:09:24,497 --> 00:09:26,667 it's like an addiction and you just can't stop, 168 00:09:26,700 --> 00:09:28,568 and I just kept, you know-- 169 00:09:28,602 --> 00:09:30,671 it's like you got to have 'em all 170 00:09:30,704 --> 00:09:32,640 'cause they're all just beautiful pieces of art. 171 00:09:34,775 --> 00:09:37,978 You remember buying every one, where you got it from. 172 00:09:38,011 --> 00:09:40,313 One time, when my addiction was really bad, 173 00:09:40,347 --> 00:09:42,149 I bought a Barb Wire on eBay. 174 00:09:42,182 --> 00:09:43,717 I thought it was a great deal. 175 00:09:43,751 --> 00:09:45,385 I thought, "Gee, what am I doin'? 176 00:09:45,418 --> 00:09:50,023 This is crazy to drive 24 hours to go get a pinball machine," 177 00:09:50,057 --> 00:09:52,826 and just as I'm thinkin' maybe I'm not gonna do this, 178 00:09:52,860 --> 00:09:54,895 you know, Pinball Wizard comes on the radio 179 00:09:54,928 --> 00:09:56,997 and I thought, "Nope, I'm goin'." 180 00:09:57,030 --> 00:09:58,832 You know, and it was, like, my longest haul. 181 00:09:58,866 --> 00:10:00,901 It was like, you know, 26 hours later 182 00:10:00,934 --> 00:10:02,636 I'm finally home, exhausted. 183 00:10:02,670 --> 00:10:04,337 Ended up comin' home with three machines. 184 00:10:04,371 --> 00:10:06,674 They're up on this upper deck. 185 00:10:06,707 --> 00:10:09,843 This is the first little deck that I built to get some room. 186 00:10:09,877 --> 00:10:12,145 Pinball machines seem to be alive. 187 00:10:12,179 --> 00:10:14,081 They--they really don't seem to be machines. 188 00:10:14,114 --> 00:10:15,415 When you're playing, they're almost 189 00:10:15,448 --> 00:10:19,486 like they're alive and the way they talk to you, 190 00:10:19,519 --> 00:10:21,321 you find yourself talkin' to it. 191 00:10:21,354 --> 00:10:23,423 Extra ball! 192 00:10:24,524 --> 00:10:25,993 Sometimes I just come in to look at them. 193 00:10:26,026 --> 00:10:27,094 You don't even have to play them. 194 00:10:27,127 --> 00:10:30,163 You just come in and just admire them. 195 00:10:30,197 --> 00:10:32,766 It's just a tribute to man's creativity. 196 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,134 I'll tell ya. 197 00:10:34,167 --> 00:10:36,436 This was, like, a little guest bedroom but it's... 198 00:10:36,469 --> 00:10:37,971 I had to squeeze more pins in here. 199 00:10:38,005 --> 00:10:40,140 My theme though, I kinda have always dreamed 200 00:10:40,173 --> 00:10:43,744 it might happen, but I really want to do the passion. 201 00:10:43,777 --> 00:10:45,713 Uh, you know, people say, "You're crazy," but see, 202 00:10:45,746 --> 00:10:47,781 I have a bac-- I was a youth pastor 203 00:10:47,815 --> 00:10:50,617 and, uh, so I st--I-- I love the Lord 204 00:10:50,650 --> 00:10:54,121 and I just can picture the passion play 205 00:10:54,154 --> 00:10:55,823 in a pinball machine. 206 00:10:55,856 --> 00:10:59,727 * Shine the light down on me 207 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,297 * Shine the light for all to see 208 00:11:04,331 --> 00:11:07,801 Hallelujah, the ball is saved! 209 00:11:07,835 --> 00:11:11,739 * Shine the light down on me 210 00:11:11,772 --> 00:11:13,741 * Shine the light 211 00:11:13,774 --> 00:11:22,515 212 00:11:22,549 --> 00:11:24,484 All my life, it was pinball. 213 00:11:24,517 --> 00:11:26,920 214 00:11:26,954 --> 00:11:29,122 This is very good game. 215 00:11:29,156 --> 00:11:31,658 Well, when I am with the pinball 216 00:11:31,691 --> 00:11:36,263 I look the pinball and I think I am in love. 217 00:11:36,296 --> 00:11:38,531 It's my life, it's better to own-- 218 00:11:38,565 --> 00:11:41,935 It's better to collect pinball than to take cocaine. 219 00:11:41,969 --> 00:11:43,370 Yes? 220 00:11:43,403 --> 00:11:45,973 Like, some people are to spend the money 221 00:11:46,006 --> 00:11:47,808 to drink or to eat. 222 00:11:47,841 --> 00:11:48,976 I don't like to eat. 223 00:11:49,009 --> 00:11:50,811 I like pinball. 224 00:11:50,844 --> 00:11:53,881 Pinball and girls, but girls is finished. 225 00:11:57,617 --> 00:12:02,856 226 00:12:02,890 --> 00:12:04,624 I will not sell one. 227 00:12:04,657 --> 00:12:09,262 I like them all, but is like my children. 228 00:12:09,296 --> 00:12:12,732 I like some of my children better than the other. 229 00:12:13,767 --> 00:12:15,135 Of course. 230 00:12:20,941 --> 00:12:23,010 We're in the area that actually enjoyed pinball, 231 00:12:23,043 --> 00:12:24,978 and we all kind of sort of hooked up 232 00:12:25,012 --> 00:12:28,415 and the heart of the group plays every Thursday 233 00:12:28,448 --> 00:12:30,583 and they don't miss. 234 00:12:30,617 --> 00:12:31,919 Puts gas in my truck. 235 00:12:31,952 --> 00:12:32,986 I mean, look at these guys. 236 00:12:33,020 --> 00:12:34,187 Take a look at these people. 237 00:12:34,221 --> 00:12:35,588 That's all they care about, is pinball. 238 00:12:35,622 --> 00:12:37,057 I got girls, I got dates. 239 00:12:37,090 --> 00:12:39,726 I go to concerts. 240 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:42,262 You meet all these people that--that are into it 241 00:12:42,295 --> 00:12:43,696 and they'll all come over and you'll have a-- 242 00:12:43,730 --> 00:12:45,698 a big party every week. 243 00:12:45,732 --> 00:12:47,367 Though Steve's still kind of a center. 244 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:48,802 He's kind of like the-- 245 00:12:48,836 --> 00:12:49,970 He's a--he's the leader. 246 00:12:50,971 --> 00:12:53,673 If it wasn't for Steve-- 247 00:12:53,706 --> 00:12:57,210 1972, my dad bought one for my room, 248 00:12:57,244 --> 00:12:59,212 and I was like, "I'll, you know, do my homework forever 249 00:12:59,246 --> 00:13:00,313 if I have a pinball machine." 250 00:13:00,347 --> 00:13:02,749 Of course that probably didn't work out. 251 00:13:02,782 --> 00:13:05,552 From there on it just got pretty wicked, you know? 252 00:13:05,585 --> 00:13:07,120 Now I've had--I've had 70. 253 00:13:07,154 --> 00:13:09,722 I think I'm down around 50 now, but I've got them 254 00:13:09,756 --> 00:13:12,059 in every room in my house. 255 00:13:12,092 --> 00:13:15,028 We have a New York Jets pinball machine 256 00:13:15,062 --> 00:13:17,597 and in here we have Maverick, which is a western-themed, 257 00:13:17,630 --> 00:13:18,832 Mel Gibson. 258 00:13:18,866 --> 00:13:21,134 Okay, now we're in another room of this crazy house. 259 00:13:21,168 --> 00:13:22,602 We're in the pinball dungeon. 260 00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:26,173 Which actually is being sold because I need to make room. 261 00:13:26,206 --> 00:13:29,476 In here we have some more pinball machines to try. 262 00:13:29,509 --> 00:13:39,552 263 00:13:39,552 --> 00:13:49,562 264 00:13:58,738 --> 00:14:00,807 We call this our "pirate shed" because we have a bar 265 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,910 in the back that's pirate-themed. 266 00:14:02,943 --> 00:14:09,983 267 00:14:12,019 --> 00:14:15,188 I never knew you could own your own pinball machine. 268 00:14:15,222 --> 00:14:16,656 I mean, soon as I found out that 269 00:14:16,689 --> 00:14:18,525 then that's when my whole life changed. 270 00:14:18,558 --> 00:14:19,859 I mean, you've seen my bedroom. 271 00:14:19,893 --> 00:14:22,462 I'd--at times I have 14 pinball machines. 272 00:14:25,098 --> 00:14:27,734 The things I like, I'm very obsessive, 273 00:14:27,767 --> 00:14:30,270 so--and I am a perfectionist. 274 00:14:30,303 --> 00:14:32,940 Uh, these are the barrels from "Jaws." 275 00:14:32,973 --> 00:14:35,542 So, if I collect something, whether it be pinball machines, 276 00:14:35,575 --> 00:14:38,378 "Jaws" memorabilia, I think I gotta have it all. 277 00:14:38,411 --> 00:14:50,090 278 00:14:50,123 --> 00:14:52,125 Like it says, "I want to rock and roll all night 279 00:14:52,159 --> 00:14:54,127 and party every day." 280 00:14:59,299 --> 00:15:07,507 281 00:15:07,540 --> 00:15:09,676 It was during the depths of the depression, 282 00:15:09,709 --> 00:15:13,446 in the late '20s, early '30s where the coin-operated 283 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,616 amusement game industry kind of got birthed. 284 00:15:16,649 --> 00:15:18,251 285 00:15:18,285 --> 00:15:21,888 Out of that came pin games. 286 00:15:21,921 --> 00:15:25,892 It literally was a name because there were various pins 287 00:15:25,925 --> 00:15:29,462 that were hammered into a wood surface, using a little ball, 288 00:15:29,496 --> 00:15:33,766 and here's the trap. 289 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:38,571 The games wound up evolving, if you will, in the 1930s. 290 00:15:38,605 --> 00:15:41,541 Companies just mushroomed out of nowhere, 291 00:15:41,574 --> 00:15:43,643 most of them located in Chicago. 292 00:15:43,676 --> 00:15:46,913 293 00:15:46,946 --> 00:15:49,549 In the end of the 1930s, beginning of the 1940s 294 00:15:49,582 --> 00:15:53,153 there is an over proliferation of games literally everywhere 295 00:15:53,186 --> 00:15:55,022 and there becomes an outcry. 296 00:15:56,856 --> 00:15:58,225 "Children spending their lunch money." 297 00:15:58,258 --> 00:15:59,126 "It's everywhere." 298 00:15:59,159 --> 00:16:00,060 "We have to outlaw it." 299 00:16:00,093 --> 00:16:01,061 "We have to regulate it." 300 00:16:01,094 --> 00:16:02,329 "We can't control it." 301 00:16:02,362 --> 00:16:08,901 302 00:16:08,935 --> 00:16:10,637 In Chicago, scores of confiscated 303 00:16:10,670 --> 00:16:12,505 pinball machines get a police escort 304 00:16:12,539 --> 00:16:14,141 to their journey's end. 305 00:16:14,174 --> 00:16:16,676 They've had this coming for a long time. 306 00:16:16,709 --> 00:16:19,812 It was seen as a game of gambling 307 00:16:19,846 --> 00:16:23,116 and there was a group of machines created 308 00:16:23,150 --> 00:16:26,486 that were pay-out machines, so there was some relevance 309 00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:28,955 to that, but by and large, the majority of product 310 00:16:28,988 --> 00:16:31,924 that was out there was for amusement only. 311 00:16:31,958 --> 00:16:34,694 In the case of New York City, Chicago, and Los Angeles 312 00:16:34,727 --> 00:16:38,465 being three major metropolitan areas as well as other areas 313 00:16:38,498 --> 00:16:41,501 around the United States, pinball was banned. 314 00:16:41,534 --> 00:16:51,578 315 00:16:51,578 --> 00:17:01,654 316 00:17:11,964 --> 00:17:14,901 It was this one. 317 00:17:14,934 --> 00:17:16,303 Humpty Dumpty. 318 00:17:16,336 --> 00:17:20,707 This was the first pinball with flipper. 319 00:17:20,740 --> 00:17:24,711 I've seen so many changes in pin games, 320 00:17:24,744 --> 00:17:28,515 but when those six flippers came out on Humpty Dumpty, 321 00:17:28,548 --> 00:17:31,551 I said, "I got to do something like that," but me? 322 00:17:31,584 --> 00:17:33,820 I was always ta-- taught never to put 323 00:17:33,853 --> 00:17:35,288 too much money into a game. 324 00:17:35,322 --> 00:17:38,525 I ain't about puttin' those six flippers on my game. 325 00:17:38,558 --> 00:17:39,926 So, I put two of 'em and I put 'em 326 00:17:39,959 --> 00:17:41,428 at the bottom of the game and that's somewhat 327 00:17:41,461 --> 00:17:43,163 approximately with everyone ever since 328 00:17:43,196 --> 00:17:46,099 and that makes me feel very, very, very good. 329 00:17:46,133 --> 00:17:49,569 330 00:17:49,602 --> 00:17:53,039 When we put flippers on a game you got a tremendous amount 331 00:17:53,072 --> 00:17:54,274 of skill into the game. 332 00:17:54,307 --> 00:17:55,942 Before that it was nothing but chance. 333 00:17:55,975 --> 00:17:57,009 You were lucky. 334 00:17:57,043 --> 00:17:58,745 You pushed the game, kicked the game in order 335 00:17:58,778 --> 00:18:00,680 to get the ball to go where you wanted it to go, 336 00:18:00,713 --> 00:18:03,550 but when the flippers were there, now you get 337 00:18:03,583 --> 00:18:05,718 a certain amount of skill. 338 00:18:05,752 --> 00:18:10,690 339 00:18:10,723 --> 00:18:13,526 Gottlieb ruled in the '50s and '60s. 340 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,761 They were comin' out with new machines, like, 341 00:18:14,794 --> 00:18:15,895 every three weeks. 342 00:18:15,928 --> 00:18:25,972 343 00:18:25,972 --> 00:18:36,783 344 00:18:36,816 --> 00:18:39,886 Generally speaking, the pinball arcade, 345 00:18:39,919 --> 00:18:43,256 which then, turned into the video game arcade 346 00:18:43,290 --> 00:18:47,694 was the sort of logical descendant of the coffee bar. 347 00:18:47,727 --> 00:18:49,929 It's very hard to remember this, but in the '60s, 348 00:18:49,962 --> 00:18:52,665 coffee was considered the major social threat. 349 00:18:52,699 --> 00:18:56,603 350 00:18:56,636 --> 00:18:58,538 Because they were thought of as places 351 00:18:58,571 --> 00:19:01,374 where kids got hyped up and then they acted out 352 00:19:01,408 --> 00:19:03,843 in some sort of manic way. 353 00:19:03,876 --> 00:19:05,845 Boys were thought to be flirting with waitresses, 354 00:19:05,878 --> 00:19:07,614 and waitresses sort of hopped up on coffee 355 00:19:07,647 --> 00:19:09,716 were jumping on the tables and dancing. 356 00:19:09,749 --> 00:19:17,224 357 00:19:22,429 --> 00:19:25,865 Before the city council in April of 1976, 358 00:19:25,898 --> 00:19:28,401 I was enlisted, if you will, 359 00:19:28,435 --> 00:19:31,271 by the New York State Association to testify. 360 00:19:31,304 --> 00:19:32,505 Order. 361 00:19:32,539 --> 00:19:35,408 Offered whatever expert testimony I could, 362 00:19:35,442 --> 00:19:40,079 as well as a demonstration of pinball being a game of skill 363 00:19:40,112 --> 00:19:42,148 as opposed to a game of chance. 364 00:19:42,181 --> 00:19:44,551 365 00:19:44,584 --> 00:19:47,987 Suddenly you could find pinball machines legally. 366 00:19:48,020 --> 00:19:58,064 367 00:19:58,064 --> 00:20:04,103 368 00:20:04,136 --> 00:20:05,772 We were rock and roll in the '70s. 369 00:20:05,805 --> 00:20:06,873 Business was booming. 370 00:20:06,906 --> 00:20:08,375 Profit margins were huge. 371 00:20:08,408 --> 00:20:09,509 Unbelievable. 372 00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:10,810 Demand was sky-high. 373 00:20:10,843 --> 00:20:13,713 Distributors were ordering it by the truckload. 374 00:20:13,746 --> 00:20:15,482 When we started solid-state electronics 375 00:20:15,515 --> 00:20:17,550 in pinball machines, we were on the leading edge 376 00:20:17,584 --> 00:20:18,951 of technology. 377 00:20:18,985 --> 00:20:22,021 I mean, it was an incredible cross-section at that time 378 00:20:22,054 --> 00:20:24,257 of people playing pinball. 379 00:20:24,291 --> 00:20:27,159 Diana Ross, Paul Simon, Lou Reed, Matthew Broderick, 380 00:20:27,193 --> 00:20:29,462 studio musicians, politicians comin' in. 381 00:20:29,496 --> 00:20:31,998 Limo pulls up and these four, crazy looking guys come out 382 00:20:32,031 --> 00:20:33,400 and, you know, it's Kiss. 383 00:20:33,433 --> 00:20:35,268 Very nice people that come in here. 384 00:20:35,302 --> 00:20:37,804 Matter of fact, you'll find business people come in here. 385 00:20:37,837 --> 00:20:39,806 You'll find musicians from the shows, 386 00:20:39,839 --> 00:20:42,008 uh, managers from the different restaurants, 387 00:20:42,041 --> 00:20:43,910 and the regular Broadway crowd. 388 00:20:43,943 --> 00:20:46,679 The thing I'm the most proud of is the fact that we created 389 00:20:46,713 --> 00:20:48,481 this environment where you would have 390 00:20:48,515 --> 00:20:51,551 different social stratas all coming in, 391 00:20:51,584 --> 00:20:53,953 standing next to each other, playing and interacting 392 00:20:53,986 --> 00:20:57,324 with each other and walking out and going their separate ways, 393 00:20:57,357 --> 00:20:59,759 never to really meet anywhere else, 394 00:20:59,792 --> 00:21:02,562 and, you know, but in the arcade this was sort of an environment 395 00:21:02,595 --> 00:21:06,699 that allowed a diverse amount of different people to come. 396 00:21:08,801 --> 00:21:10,236 Kids would always want someplace to go, 397 00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:13,606 something to do, and at that point in time 398 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,376 there wasn't a lot of options for that teenager, 399 00:21:16,409 --> 00:21:19,512 whether it was just pre-getting their driver's license, 400 00:21:19,546 --> 00:21:22,515 so, you know, their-- their--the--their lifestyle 401 00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:24,083 had to be within walking distance 402 00:21:24,116 --> 00:21:26,453 or a bicycle ride or something, 403 00:21:26,486 --> 00:21:27,787 and I think that's what gave growth 404 00:21:27,820 --> 00:21:29,422 to the arcade business. 405 00:21:29,456 --> 00:21:33,893 406 00:21:33,926 --> 00:21:38,230 Arcades had this air of "certainly not approved 407 00:21:38,264 --> 00:21:39,699 by your parents." 408 00:21:39,732 --> 00:21:41,401 "Naughty," or whatever, 'cause they could in there 409 00:21:41,434 --> 00:21:42,635 and they could smoke. 410 00:21:42,669 --> 00:21:44,737 411 00:21:44,771 --> 00:21:47,073 It was usually dark. 412 00:21:47,106 --> 00:21:48,875 You could kind of do what you wanted to do, 413 00:21:48,908 --> 00:21:51,478 and that was a very male-crowd. 414 00:21:51,511 --> 00:21:54,313 It was all young males, 415 00:21:54,347 --> 00:21:57,016 fourteen to twenty five. 416 00:21:57,049 --> 00:22:00,687 It wasn't like going to a Walt Disney movie 417 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,822 where the whole family could go along 418 00:22:02,855 --> 00:22:04,724 and feel happy about it. 419 00:22:04,757 --> 00:22:06,659 It was more like hanging out with your friends 420 00:22:06,693 --> 00:22:11,063 and doing bad things. 421 00:22:11,097 --> 00:22:14,401 I think at that time it was considered rebellious. 422 00:22:14,434 --> 00:22:17,870 I think this was a bit of a Fonz-type activity, 423 00:22:17,904 --> 00:22:21,273 a sort of downward-mobility, wasting time, 424 00:22:21,307 --> 00:22:24,243 developing highly-refined skills in an area that was going 425 00:22:24,276 --> 00:22:27,346 to be relatively useless in adult life. 426 00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:33,953 Half of all our production went over into Western Europe. 427 00:22:33,986 --> 00:22:35,555 Container loads of games. 428 00:22:41,293 --> 00:22:44,397 I was astounded to find out that the first runs of games, 429 00:22:44,431 --> 00:22:45,798 even in the heyday, went to Europe 430 00:22:45,832 --> 00:22:47,834 instead of the United States. 431 00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:49,602 The market was bigger in Europe. 432 00:22:49,636 --> 00:22:51,671 And at that time I think the pinball machine 433 00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:54,106 was highly Americanized and pe--and then people 434 00:22:54,140 --> 00:22:55,274 were proud of that. 435 00:22:55,307 --> 00:22:58,611 Proud to have, in a French bistro in Paris, 436 00:22:58,645 --> 00:23:00,780 an American machine. 437 00:23:03,282 --> 00:23:06,252 Everything came from the United States at that time, 438 00:23:06,285 --> 00:23:11,123 glowing success, because people's mentalities... 439 00:23:11,157 --> 00:23:14,927 United State is the paradise of the world. 440 00:23:14,961 --> 00:23:18,498 And everybody understood the language of pinball. 441 00:23:19,466 --> 00:23:21,868 Game over, tilt, 442 00:23:21,901 --> 00:23:24,904 special targets, you know. 443 00:23:33,012 --> 00:23:43,890 444 00:23:43,923 --> 00:23:48,127 What is it that makes you stop and play one machine? 445 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,496 What makes you think, 446 00:23:49,529 --> 00:23:52,164 "Oh, I'm gonna put my money in this one?" 447 00:23:52,198 --> 00:23:55,367 And so you come up with, uh, rock and roll. 448 00:23:55,401 --> 00:23:57,036 You come up with sex. 449 00:23:57,069 --> 00:23:59,572 You come up with the--the-- all the things 450 00:23:59,606 --> 00:24:02,509 that young teenage boys wanted to be. 451 00:24:02,542 --> 00:24:03,976 I mean, you can look at the art. 452 00:24:04,010 --> 00:24:05,144 It's definitely something 453 00:24:05,177 --> 00:24:07,680 that's pitched towards young males. 454 00:24:07,714 --> 00:24:11,183 There's not really a lot of female-friendly images on these. 455 00:24:11,217 --> 00:24:19,125 456 00:24:19,158 --> 00:24:22,762 Part of the adolescent male fantasy is, guns, 457 00:24:22,795 --> 00:24:27,700 women with large breasts, magic spells, any violent, 458 00:24:27,734 --> 00:24:30,970 misogynist thing you want is there on pinball. 459 00:24:31,003 --> 00:24:35,942 A lot of these machines have um,love scenes on them. 460 00:24:35,975 --> 00:24:38,210 Uh, you don't suppose there's any connection there? 461 00:24:40,212 --> 00:24:41,247 I'm not in the supposing business. 462 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,282 What do you think? 463 00:24:43,315 --> 00:24:45,217 Well, I don't know if you've ever followed 464 00:24:45,251 --> 00:24:48,020 the motions of people's bodies while they're playing, 465 00:24:48,054 --> 00:24:50,456 but you might be able to draw a connection there. 466 00:24:50,489 --> 00:24:52,992 Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah! 467 00:24:53,025 --> 00:24:55,461 You have those centerfold images 468 00:24:55,494 --> 00:24:58,164 of young, rather buxom ladies, 469 00:24:58,197 --> 00:25:02,034 usually blonde, staring out of the machine at you 470 00:25:02,068 --> 00:25:04,136 to inspire you. 471 00:25:04,170 --> 00:25:05,404 It's a sexual release. 472 00:25:05,437 --> 00:25:06,906 I really don't understand why though. 473 00:25:06,939 --> 00:25:07,840 But you believe it is? 474 00:25:07,874 --> 00:25:08,575 Oh, I know it is. 475 00:25:08,608 --> 00:25:09,809 No question about it. 476 00:25:09,842 --> 00:25:12,845 Sexually frustrated people play pinball a lot. 477 00:25:12,879 --> 00:25:16,415 And--and that sort of captured in that noise that's made 478 00:25:16,448 --> 00:25:17,850 when you win a free game. 479 00:25:17,884 --> 00:25:19,285 You know, there's that clunk noise, 480 00:25:20,419 --> 00:25:21,854 which is supposed to alert everybody 481 00:25:21,888 --> 00:25:23,990 in the environment that you are a-- 482 00:25:24,023 --> 00:25:27,359 you know, you are the man, and if you can do it repeatedly 483 00:25:27,393 --> 00:25:29,996 or get clunk-clunk, you know, everybody's like-- 484 00:25:30,029 --> 00:25:32,799 notices that and they-- even if they don't show it, 485 00:25:32,832 --> 00:25:35,067 their admiration for you increases. 486 00:25:38,137 --> 00:25:40,472 A guy has a hot ball and it's just flyin', 487 00:25:40,506 --> 00:25:42,742 and, you know, you're gettin' ready to become ruler 488 00:25:42,775 --> 00:25:44,611 of the universe or somethin'. 489 00:25:44,644 --> 00:25:46,278 You might have been playin' by yourself 490 00:25:46,312 --> 00:25:47,513 and not too many people watchin', 491 00:25:47,546 --> 00:25:49,448 but when they start hearin' those sounds, 492 00:25:49,481 --> 00:25:51,383 then all of a sudden you'll see people gather around 493 00:25:51,417 --> 00:25:55,354 to see that great ending of that, you know, ball. 494 00:25:56,823 --> 00:25:58,457 I knew you'd come back. 495 00:26:05,965 --> 00:26:16,008 496 00:26:16,008 --> 00:26:21,480 497 00:26:25,117 --> 00:26:27,253 It's number 174 with a circle. 498 00:26:27,286 --> 00:26:31,590 It says "Williams Perky, 10-24-56." 499 00:26:31,624 --> 00:26:34,661 Well, it's been in my blood since I was 12 and I'm 59, 500 00:26:34,694 --> 00:26:38,631 so pretty major. 501 00:26:38,665 --> 00:26:40,700 Should have known right away that I was gonna be a collector 502 00:26:40,733 --> 00:26:43,435 and I didn't start collecting until I bought this house 503 00:26:43,469 --> 00:26:46,873 in 1976, and the first game in my collection 504 00:26:46,906 --> 00:26:48,741 is my favorite game of all time, 505 00:26:48,775 --> 00:26:51,277 Gottlieb Slick Chick, April of '63. 506 00:26:51,310 --> 00:26:53,179 It's in my bedroom up right now. 507 00:26:53,212 --> 00:26:54,781 It's been up since I started my collection 508 00:26:54,814 --> 00:26:56,883 and it's never gone down. 509 00:26:58,751 --> 00:27:03,022 I have a--a--kind of my-- what I call my bible. 510 00:27:03,055 --> 00:27:04,891 Whenever I go to shows, and I've been doing that 511 00:27:04,924 --> 00:27:07,927 for a long time, I always copy down serial numbers. 512 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,131 And I have a binder that I've hand-typed, 513 00:27:12,164 --> 00:27:14,000 since I don't do computers yet. 514 00:27:14,033 --> 00:27:16,135 To me, I think it would be interesting, 515 00:27:16,168 --> 00:27:20,072 I have 300 games, where they were at one time. 516 00:27:20,106 --> 00:27:22,675 Egg Head, Flipper Clown, Tropic Isle, 517 00:27:22,709 --> 00:27:24,543 Fashion Show, Cover Girl. 518 00:27:24,576 --> 00:27:25,845 Were they in Joe's Bar and Grille 519 00:27:25,878 --> 00:27:29,215 or somewhere down the street, or at a show? 520 00:27:29,248 --> 00:27:31,984 Uh, I have a column for the date, the game number, 521 00:27:32,018 --> 00:27:34,721 the players, notes. 522 00:27:34,754 --> 00:27:35,922 It's because ten years from now 523 00:27:35,955 --> 00:27:37,256 I think people would like to know 524 00:27:37,289 --> 00:27:39,859 where their Twilight Zone was or their Addams Family 525 00:27:39,892 --> 00:27:42,228 or whatever game it happens to be. 526 00:27:43,095 --> 00:27:45,932 It's interesting to me. 527 00:27:45,965 --> 00:27:49,335 528 00:27:49,368 --> 00:27:52,138 I worked in the bowling industry for a lot of years 529 00:27:52,171 --> 00:27:55,041 and the last bowling alley I worked at closed down 530 00:27:55,074 --> 00:27:57,343 twelve years ago, and so I get up 531 00:27:57,376 --> 00:27:59,311 and work on my collection every day. 532 00:27:59,345 --> 00:28:04,383 533 00:28:04,416 --> 00:28:06,318 I'm in it for the history of it too. 534 00:28:06,352 --> 00:28:07,887 That's why I collect flyers. 535 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,657 That's why I collect what they call press photos. 536 00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:12,358 Spiderman. 537 00:28:12,391 --> 00:28:13,525 There's Circus. 538 00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:14,927 They're chronological. 539 00:28:14,961 --> 00:28:18,230 That's--that's all my--up here, all my photo albums. 540 00:28:18,264 --> 00:28:22,101 I have about 6,000 pinball negatives. 541 00:28:22,134 --> 00:28:24,837 This is Bally parts catalogues, and then this over here 542 00:28:24,871 --> 00:28:26,773 is schematics. 543 00:28:26,806 --> 00:28:28,975 There's a lot of games are missin' score cards. 544 00:28:29,008 --> 00:28:31,143 How they get lost over the years 545 00:28:31,177 --> 00:28:33,679 it's hard to believe, but they do. 546 00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:38,017 I have 11 comic book boxes full of score cards. 547 00:28:38,050 --> 00:28:41,353 In the front closet, there's lots of binders 548 00:28:41,387 --> 00:28:44,723 in there also. 549 00:28:44,757 --> 00:28:47,426 I was blessed with an unbelievable memory. 550 00:28:47,459 --> 00:28:52,264 I mean, records, pinballs... jokes. 551 00:28:55,101 --> 00:28:57,269 Did you hear about the Polish carpoolers? 552 00:28:58,737 --> 00:29:00,840 They all met at work. 553 00:29:03,776 --> 00:29:06,112 Isn't that good? 554 00:29:06,145 --> 00:29:09,315 This front bedroom 555 00:29:09,348 --> 00:29:14,253 has 26 woodrail pinball bodies, 556 00:29:15,922 --> 00:29:17,957 all stacked, twenty four and two, 557 00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:21,193 and approximately 250 backglasses. 558 00:29:21,227 --> 00:29:23,796 Isn't that awesome? 559 00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:25,697 I really don't think about what it's worth 560 00:29:25,731 --> 00:29:26,933 'cause I really don't want to sell it. 561 00:29:26,966 --> 00:29:28,367 I want to play 'em. 562 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,536 I want 'em to play like they did when the-- 563 00:29:30,569 --> 00:29:33,072 when they were in the-- comin' out of the factory. 564 00:29:33,105 --> 00:29:36,408 That's why I spend the 40 hours and do the job right. 565 00:29:38,945 --> 00:29:41,247 Rebuild the bumpers, rebuild the pop bumpers, 566 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,616 and rebuild the slingshots, and rebuild the flippers. 567 00:29:44,650 --> 00:29:47,719 A lot of work, and when you're done and you turn it on 568 00:29:47,753 --> 00:29:50,722 and it doesn't blow up you fe-- you feel real good. 569 00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:55,995 I sort my parts out of the parts catalogue 570 00:29:56,028 --> 00:29:59,431 by part number. 571 00:29:59,465 --> 00:30:02,501 You never know when somebody's gonna need somethin'. 572 00:30:02,534 --> 00:30:03,870 I'm gonna need more room. 573 00:30:05,872 --> 00:30:06,839 I'm a people person. 574 00:30:06,873 --> 00:30:08,140 I like people. 575 00:30:08,174 --> 00:30:10,977 When I worked, it--it--it really wasn't work. 576 00:30:11,010 --> 00:30:12,711 I looked forward to seeing these people on Monday 577 00:30:12,744 --> 00:30:14,646 and these people on Tuesday and these people on Wednesday, 578 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,383 and I have, uh, a-- uh, I have-- 579 00:30:17,416 --> 00:30:18,617 I never had any brothers or sisters. 580 00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:22,922 I was an only child, and, uh, my mom and my real dad 581 00:30:22,955 --> 00:30:25,324 got married and divorced twice. 582 00:30:25,357 --> 00:30:26,725 And they say it's kind of hereditary 583 00:30:26,758 --> 00:30:28,861 but my--my real dad smoked and drank 584 00:30:28,895 --> 00:30:31,797 and he was an alcoholic and I never did drank or smoked, 585 00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:36,735 so bein' an individualist is...always been proud of. 586 00:30:36,768 --> 00:30:38,804 I can--I--I'll-- I get high on life, 587 00:30:38,837 --> 00:30:41,807 not on anything artificial. 588 00:30:43,943 --> 00:30:46,478 Only 100,000 away from a game. 589 00:30:46,512 --> 00:30:47,880 Oh, I didn't get it. 590 00:30:47,914 --> 00:30:51,783 Four-eight would-- I was 10,000 away from a game. 591 00:30:51,817 --> 00:30:54,220 The rush of being able to play 592 00:30:54,253 --> 00:30:56,555 any game you have at any given time, 593 00:30:56,588 --> 00:30:59,425 if I just push the button, is you can't explain it 594 00:30:59,458 --> 00:31:00,559 to people, you know? 595 00:31:00,592 --> 00:31:02,028 It's something you like and it's fun 596 00:31:02,061 --> 00:31:06,132 and it's...enjoyable. 597 00:31:06,165 --> 00:31:08,434 I don't know why some people have the bug 598 00:31:08,467 --> 00:31:10,869 and some people don't, but I'm one of the ones 599 00:31:10,903 --> 00:31:14,340 with the bug. 600 00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:17,243 I wake up and do it every single day. 601 00:31:17,276 --> 00:31:19,245 602 00:31:19,278 --> 00:31:21,147 Part of my life. 603 00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:24,083 Like an extension of my hand or something, I guess. 604 00:31:24,116 --> 00:31:28,287 605 00:31:34,426 --> 00:31:36,828 There's a joke that we have in the business, 606 00:31:36,862 --> 00:31:39,798 which is "how hard can this be?" 607 00:31:39,831 --> 00:31:41,533 Uh, people look in the box, they see it. 608 00:31:41,567 --> 00:31:43,035 They'll be in a bar or they'll be with their friend. 609 00:31:43,069 --> 00:31:44,636 They'll look inside and say, "Oh, how hard could it be 610 00:31:44,670 --> 00:31:46,605 to build a pinball machine?" 611 00:31:46,638 --> 00:31:48,975 Uh, and we like to just smile. 612 00:31:49,008 --> 00:31:50,209 We just smile. 613 00:31:50,242 --> 00:31:53,612 614 00:31:53,645 --> 00:31:56,415 Chicago is the pinball capital of the world. 615 00:31:56,448 --> 00:32:02,154 616 00:32:02,188 --> 00:32:03,222 We make it here 'cause the people 617 00:32:03,255 --> 00:32:04,556 who understand how to make it are here, 618 00:32:04,590 --> 00:32:06,792 the tooling is here, we live here. 619 00:32:06,825 --> 00:32:09,795 We need to have that fast turnaround. 620 00:32:09,828 --> 00:32:11,197 It's all in Chicago. 621 00:32:11,230 --> 00:32:16,835 622 00:32:16,868 --> 00:32:18,937 I tell people that I've been in the pinball business 623 00:32:18,971 --> 00:32:23,109 for, um, 61 years because I'm 61 years old. 624 00:32:23,142 --> 00:32:25,277 This is where my father started me. 625 00:32:25,311 --> 00:32:29,081 To understand that even today, with solid-state electronics, 626 00:32:29,115 --> 00:32:31,417 we have 3,500 pieces in a pinball machine, 627 00:32:31,450 --> 00:32:33,619 over half a mile of wire. 628 00:32:33,652 --> 00:32:35,821 There's a lot that goes into makin' one. 629 00:32:35,854 --> 00:32:37,956 There's more labor in a pinball machine, 630 00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:39,858 more man hours than in a Ford Taurus, 631 00:32:39,891 --> 00:32:41,927 which is built not far from here. 632 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:51,237 633 00:32:51,270 --> 00:32:52,704 It's a progressive line. 634 00:32:52,738 --> 00:32:56,275 Each person does a little part of it and passes it along. 635 00:32:56,308 --> 00:32:58,744 Much like automobiles but by hand. 636 00:32:58,777 --> 00:33:08,887 637 00:33:08,887 --> 00:33:18,730 638 00:33:18,764 --> 00:33:21,400 The volume of the game business as a whole, coin-op business, 639 00:33:21,433 --> 00:33:23,269 is significantly down from what it was. 640 00:33:23,302 --> 00:33:25,904 641 00:33:25,937 --> 00:33:29,708 '92,'93, there were 100,000 pinball machines a year made 642 00:33:29,741 --> 00:33:33,545 and there were 4 or 5 different companies or brands. 643 00:33:33,579 --> 00:33:35,881 Today we're the only company making pinball machines 644 00:33:35,914 --> 00:33:38,450 and we like to, well, yo-- strive to have 10 percent 645 00:33:38,484 --> 00:33:40,319 of what that market once was, and then we'd have 646 00:33:40,352 --> 00:33:41,453 a nice, small business. 647 00:33:46,292 --> 00:33:50,796 If you drive a 1978 Super Beetle convertible, 648 00:33:50,829 --> 00:33:52,431 it's very cool, but that's nostalgic 649 00:33:52,464 --> 00:33:53,799 and it's not a great car. 650 00:33:53,832 --> 00:33:56,468 If you have a new Beetle convertible, that's retro. 651 00:33:56,502 --> 00:33:58,537 It's a modern car that has some of the-- 652 00:33:58,570 --> 00:34:00,839 some of the look and feel or coolness of it 653 00:34:00,872 --> 00:34:02,274 and it--it's retro. 654 00:34:02,308 --> 00:34:06,112 Um, we don't make games from the '60s. 655 00:34:06,145 --> 00:34:09,047 We make games of today that are retro. 656 00:34:12,451 --> 00:34:15,154 We no longer talk about being the last pinball manufacturer 657 00:34:15,187 --> 00:34:16,988 'cause that sounds like we're gonna get out. 658 00:34:17,022 --> 00:34:18,590 We're the only pinball manufacturer 659 00:34:18,624 --> 00:34:20,992 and we intend to remain in the pinball business. 660 00:34:21,026 --> 00:34:27,533 661 00:34:27,566 --> 00:34:30,669 Every game designer who's worth anything 662 00:34:30,702 --> 00:34:33,305 will tell you that what you're really trying to build 663 00:34:33,339 --> 00:34:34,673 is a carnival game. 664 00:34:34,706 --> 00:34:37,409 You're trying to build something that's easy to learn, 665 00:34:37,443 --> 00:34:40,179 easy to play, and hard to beat. 666 00:34:40,212 --> 00:34:43,315 You want to create hooks in a game, to hook them in, 667 00:34:43,349 --> 00:34:45,384 to interest them, to keep them interested. 668 00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:48,454 Destroy the saucer! 669 00:34:48,487 --> 00:34:51,823 Something that's out there, on the edge of their ability, 670 00:34:51,857 --> 00:34:54,693 that they can-- they can see sometimes 671 00:34:54,726 --> 00:34:56,195 and achieve you-- 672 00:34:56,228 --> 00:35:00,098 you know, less times, that, that, um... 673 00:35:00,132 --> 00:35:01,433 that keep them playing. 674 00:35:01,467 --> 00:35:03,902 Super jackpot! 675 00:35:03,935 --> 00:35:05,171 You get that implanted in your head 676 00:35:05,204 --> 00:35:06,672 that you want to hear that. 677 00:35:06,705 --> 00:35:08,474 This is Pavlov. 678 00:35:08,507 --> 00:35:11,177 We're teaching you that when you hear a thing in a game, 679 00:35:11,210 --> 00:35:13,245 it means something. 680 00:35:13,279 --> 00:35:14,913 The best games are always the games 681 00:35:14,946 --> 00:35:17,716 that left you one shot away. 682 00:35:17,749 --> 00:35:20,118 "Gee, if I had just that one more shot 683 00:35:20,152 --> 00:35:22,721 I know I would have gotten it this time. 684 00:35:22,754 --> 00:35:24,423 I had two balls locked and if I just got 685 00:35:24,456 --> 00:35:26,558 that last ball locked, 'cause I know I did it 686 00:35:26,592 --> 00:35:30,028 last time, or I did it two games ago, 687 00:35:30,061 --> 00:35:32,731 I just need to do it one more time. 688 00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:35,667 One more time." 689 00:35:39,037 --> 00:35:40,539 To design a pinball machine, 690 00:35:40,572 --> 00:35:43,074 basically you start with a theme. 691 00:35:43,108 --> 00:35:47,246 You then begin the process of "how do I lay out 692 00:35:47,279 --> 00:35:49,648 an interesting pinball machine with the flippers 693 00:35:49,681 --> 00:35:53,419 and things that represents where I'm trying to go 694 00:35:53,452 --> 00:35:55,321 with all of this?" 695 00:35:55,354 --> 00:35:57,489 The right lane feeds back to this flipper. 696 00:35:57,523 --> 00:35:59,291 We build working models of things 697 00:35:59,325 --> 00:36:01,760 and then we play with it, but it tells us 698 00:36:01,793 --> 00:36:05,063 whether what we're doing is going to work or not work 699 00:36:05,096 --> 00:36:07,733 or be fun or not fun. 700 00:36:07,766 --> 00:36:10,669 Okay, this shows how we mock up what we do, 701 00:36:10,702 --> 00:36:12,204 and then here's the final game. 702 00:36:12,238 --> 00:36:14,973 This is what the final version of the game looks like 703 00:36:15,006 --> 00:36:16,908 when it's finally produced. 704 00:36:20,246 --> 00:36:23,649 Each one of these games is a year of your life. 705 00:36:23,682 --> 00:36:27,185 In that year of your life, you always put your best effort 706 00:36:27,219 --> 00:36:29,255 forward to make the game fun. 707 00:36:29,288 --> 00:36:31,490 What you think will be fun, okay? 708 00:36:31,523 --> 00:36:33,024 And you don't always hit it. 709 00:36:33,058 --> 00:36:34,526 Uh, no game designer would lie to you 710 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,761 and tell you they always hit. 711 00:36:35,794 --> 00:36:36,795 You don't always hit it. 712 00:36:41,567 --> 00:36:43,134 The guy whose games I played 713 00:36:43,168 --> 00:36:45,571 is one of the legends of the business, 714 00:36:45,604 --> 00:36:46,838 Steve Ritchie. 715 00:36:46,872 --> 00:36:48,374 Hi, my name's Steve Ritchie. 716 00:36:48,407 --> 00:36:50,976 717 00:36:54,913 --> 00:36:56,248 It's not so much what I wanted to be. 718 00:36:56,282 --> 00:36:59,217 It's what people said that I was going to be. 719 00:36:59,251 --> 00:37:02,187 They said that I was going to be a mad scientist 720 00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:04,222 in a toy factory. 721 00:37:04,256 --> 00:37:09,194 Even in grade school, and that's what I am. 722 00:37:14,866 --> 00:37:17,102 I never thought that I would get to meet Steve Ritchie. 723 00:37:17,135 --> 00:37:18,704 It's just, it's awesome. 724 00:37:18,737 --> 00:37:20,306 I'm on cloud nine. 725 00:37:21,673 --> 00:37:23,074 It's definitely an art. 726 00:37:23,108 --> 00:37:25,277 Just to know the science of it is nothing. 727 00:37:25,311 --> 00:37:26,945 You have to understand how the ball moves, 728 00:37:26,978 --> 00:37:30,682 but it's also curves and things that the ball does 729 00:37:30,716 --> 00:37:34,119 that make you feel satisfied, a nice sound, okay? 730 00:37:34,152 --> 00:37:36,622 You send a ball through a hole and it goes "thunk!" 731 00:37:36,655 --> 00:37:39,157 Locks in, stays solid, you know? 732 00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:40,692 Doesn't bounce out. 733 00:37:40,726 --> 00:37:42,494 Make a sound at the same time. 734 00:37:42,528 --> 00:37:44,029 It's--that's art. 735 00:37:46,665 --> 00:37:47,833 It is a work of art. 736 00:37:47,866 --> 00:37:49,601 Being a programmer by trade I can appreciate 737 00:37:49,635 --> 00:37:52,904 this is like a large 3D program to me. 738 00:37:52,938 --> 00:37:55,607 All event-driven, and when it-- as soon as a, uh... 739 00:37:55,641 --> 00:37:58,076 an event happens... 740 00:37:58,109 --> 00:38:00,412 you can picture the electricity flowing through there 741 00:38:00,446 --> 00:38:03,281 and different things happening. 742 00:38:03,315 --> 00:38:06,352 I mean, for me, this is like a little, mini-world. 743 00:38:06,385 --> 00:38:10,088 So when the ball's bouncing around inside, 744 00:38:10,121 --> 00:38:11,923 it's having fun inside its own little world 745 00:38:11,957 --> 00:38:13,191 and you're helping it along. 746 00:38:14,926 --> 00:38:16,828 Maybe that's why I like it, 'cause I enjoy aquariums. 747 00:38:16,862 --> 00:38:18,897 The little fish in the tank having fun, 748 00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:22,267 the ball's having a-- having fun in here. 749 00:38:23,402 --> 00:38:27,406 750 00:38:27,439 --> 00:38:29,341 If you chart the history of pinball, 751 00:38:29,375 --> 00:38:32,378 you'll see things go in and out of style. 752 00:38:32,411 --> 00:38:36,948 753 00:38:36,982 --> 00:38:38,450 Pinball has been through its growth spurts, 754 00:38:38,484 --> 00:38:42,187 when it went from lights in the backbox to score reels. 755 00:38:42,220 --> 00:38:46,958 From score reels to displays, and displays to alphanumerics, 756 00:38:46,992 --> 00:38:48,960 and alphanumerics to dot-matrix. 757 00:38:48,994 --> 00:38:51,397 758 00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:55,667 Pinball lost a market of players 759 00:38:55,701 --> 00:38:59,905 because of their technologically enhanced games. 760 00:38:59,938 --> 00:39:03,174 Video-mode is a feature that allows me to play 761 00:39:03,208 --> 00:39:05,343 a video game within this pinball machine. 762 00:39:05,377 --> 00:39:08,547 The machines went a little haywire with their, 763 00:39:08,580 --> 00:39:11,450 um, toys and all their different things 764 00:39:11,483 --> 00:39:14,486 that they felt had to be on a game. 765 00:39:17,222 --> 00:39:19,491 There's the biggest division among pinball players 766 00:39:19,525 --> 00:39:21,427 in my generation. 767 00:39:21,460 --> 00:39:24,830 Most of us would refuse to play the new highly electronic 768 00:39:24,863 --> 00:39:27,198 pinball games. 769 00:39:27,232 --> 00:39:31,570 They've made the game so complicated 770 00:39:31,603 --> 00:39:34,773 that five percent of the people that play 'em 771 00:39:34,806 --> 00:39:36,307 understand the rules. 772 00:39:40,211 --> 00:39:41,513 I've always been into rules. 773 00:39:41,547 --> 00:39:44,015 I'm into board games and I love strategy, 774 00:39:44,049 --> 00:39:46,251 so to me it's about rules. 775 00:39:46,284 --> 00:39:47,686 It's about achievement. 776 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,154 It's about goals. 777 00:39:49,187 --> 00:39:50,456 You start a game and you start learning 778 00:39:50,489 --> 00:39:52,524 about a game that you've never played before, 779 00:39:52,558 --> 00:39:53,892 and you-- and you--and you go, 780 00:39:53,925 --> 00:39:56,061 "Oh, I see, I-- if I do this and this and this 781 00:39:56,094 --> 00:39:57,829 I get one of those and-- 782 00:39:57,863 --> 00:39:59,731 and three of those gets me a multi-ball. 783 00:39:59,765 --> 00:40:01,433 I can do that, piece of cake." 784 00:40:01,467 --> 00:40:02,501 You know, and then-- and then you do it 785 00:40:02,534 --> 00:40:03,969 ten times in a r-- 786 00:40:04,002 --> 00:40:05,236 and then you play ten times in a row and you don't do it, 787 00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:07,005 and--and you're like, "Oh, I can do that!" 788 00:40:09,775 --> 00:40:12,143 For instance, in Pirates, a very obvious strategy 789 00:40:12,177 --> 00:40:13,779 is to get "time-lock" lit. 790 00:40:13,812 --> 00:40:17,215 You get "time-lock" lit by shooting balls into the disc, 791 00:40:17,248 --> 00:40:19,384 up the left ramp. 792 00:40:19,417 --> 00:40:21,119 The ball will bounce around for three or four seconds 793 00:40:21,152 --> 00:40:22,420 while the post is up. 794 00:40:22,454 --> 00:40:24,690 Then the post comes down and it still may bounce around, 795 00:40:24,723 --> 00:40:27,025 and all the while you'll complete these lights. 796 00:40:27,058 --> 00:40:30,629 You get the light to the end and that will light "time-lock." 797 00:40:30,662 --> 00:40:33,532 Once "time-lock" is lit, I know that I'm good to go there, 798 00:40:33,565 --> 00:40:36,502 so then I start-- then I get the ship multi-ball, 799 00:40:36,535 --> 00:40:38,470 which is the ship-- I get the ship multi-ball 800 00:40:38,504 --> 00:40:41,573 one shot away from starting. 801 00:40:41,607 --> 00:40:43,108 So you shoot the ship, you shoot the ship, 802 00:40:43,141 --> 00:40:44,510 you shoot the ship. 803 00:40:44,543 --> 00:40:46,778 The ship will start to rock, and you know that when the ship 804 00:40:46,812 --> 00:40:50,816 is rocking you're one shot away from starting that multi-ball, 805 00:40:50,849 --> 00:40:53,552 and if I succeed I have a four-ball multi-ball 806 00:40:53,585 --> 00:40:55,086 of Tortuga running with-- 807 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,656 and the ship multi-ball is one shot away. 808 00:40:57,689 --> 00:41:00,391 Then I try and shoot the ship with that fourth ball, 809 00:41:00,425 --> 00:41:03,695 starting that multi-ball and--and--and I like that a lot 810 00:41:03,729 --> 00:41:07,032 because then I can try to lock balls back into the disc 811 00:41:07,065 --> 00:41:08,934 to create-- to get my multiplier up 812 00:41:08,967 --> 00:41:10,736 while I'm create-- collecting jackpots 813 00:41:10,769 --> 00:41:13,038 and super jackpots, and--and I... 814 00:41:13,071 --> 00:41:15,306 I find that very satisfying. 815 00:41:15,340 --> 00:41:17,208 Um, so that's just-- that's sort of a... 816 00:41:17,242 --> 00:41:19,845 a low-level goal that I think anybody can achieve 817 00:41:19,878 --> 00:41:21,947 once they've figured it out and put it together. 818 00:41:24,015 --> 00:41:28,153 What we do is a business and what we build is fun. 819 00:41:28,186 --> 00:41:31,356 It just happens to come in a box. 820 00:41:31,389 --> 00:41:33,058 Pinball machine is a revenue-earning 821 00:41:33,091 --> 00:41:35,493 piece of equipment, like a slot machine. 822 00:41:35,527 --> 00:41:38,864 Money goes in and-- and an operator comes along 823 00:41:38,897 --> 00:41:39,865 and collects the money. 824 00:41:39,898 --> 00:41:41,600 The player is entertained. 825 00:41:41,633 --> 00:41:44,335 Uh, he can win a free game. 826 00:41:44,369 --> 00:41:48,006 Um, he, uh--he can be satisfied, 827 00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:49,641 uh, uh, or have a great time 828 00:41:49,675 --> 00:41:52,778 for a short time, uh, even with a little glory. 829 00:41:52,811 --> 00:41:54,880 The knocker goes off in a crowded bar. 830 00:41:54,913 --> 00:41:55,881 "Hey, I did that. 831 00:41:55,914 --> 00:41:58,049 I made that go off, okay?" 832 00:41:58,083 --> 00:42:00,285 When you hear them cussing sometimes 833 00:42:00,318 --> 00:42:03,054 or trying to kick the game to get some action, 834 00:42:03,088 --> 00:42:04,756 and you know that-- you know you're getting-- 835 00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:07,258 you're getting the results that you want, you know? 836 00:42:07,292 --> 00:42:08,994 And you'll see them putting more coins in that. 837 00:42:09,027 --> 00:42:11,362 You'll say, "Then I made it." 838 00:42:11,396 --> 00:42:16,534 * Put another quarter in the pinball 839 00:42:16,568 --> 00:42:20,005 * Yeah put another quarter in the pinball 840 00:42:20,038 --> 00:42:23,942 * Another one, two, three 841 00:42:32,984 --> 00:42:35,320 There's the collectors and then there's the players, 842 00:42:35,353 --> 00:42:39,758 and then there's the people that just like to talk pinball. 843 00:42:39,791 --> 00:42:41,660 They are almost every kind of person 844 00:42:41,693 --> 00:42:43,161 you can talk about. 845 00:42:43,194 --> 00:42:45,363 I mean, everyone jokes about there's some sickness, 846 00:42:45,396 --> 00:42:47,599 there's some-- there's some insanity. 847 00:42:51,236 --> 00:42:54,239 I don't know if any of 'em are really cool, you know? 848 00:42:54,272 --> 00:42:57,308 But, it's kind of like the "geeky thing" 849 00:42:57,342 --> 00:42:58,910 is probably the way pinball 850 00:42:58,944 --> 00:43:02,413 is perceived by the outsiders. 851 00:43:02,447 --> 00:43:04,015 How do you perceive pinball? 852 00:43:04,049 --> 00:43:06,785 Uh, I'm an insider so I think it's really cool. 853 00:43:08,419 --> 00:43:09,554 Uh, hello. 854 00:43:09,587 --> 00:43:12,090 Uh, we are from Tokyo, Japan. 855 00:43:12,123 --> 00:43:13,892 We are pinball lovers. 856 00:43:15,894 --> 00:43:17,495 And then now it seems, you know, 857 00:43:17,528 --> 00:43:21,532 almost like a definition of a nerd or a, uh, 858 00:43:21,566 --> 00:43:24,402 a weird and marginal person to be caught playing pinball, 859 00:43:24,435 --> 00:43:27,405 but maybe there's something attractive about that. 860 00:43:28,506 --> 00:43:30,108 I'm the Jim Morrison of pinball. 861 00:43:30,141 --> 00:43:31,910 They either love me or hate me. 862 00:43:31,943 --> 00:43:35,781 863 00:43:35,814 --> 00:43:36,948 I think he's great for pinballs. 864 00:43:36,982 --> 00:43:39,751 I--I--I think the Pingeek is good. 865 00:43:39,785 --> 00:43:45,791 866 00:43:45,824 --> 00:43:49,260 I haven't--haven't met any-- anybody like him before. 867 00:43:50,561 --> 00:43:52,063 I'm not a business man. 868 00:43:52,097 --> 00:43:54,499 I'm just a hack carrying around a camcorder. 869 00:43:54,532 --> 00:43:58,837 870 00:43:58,870 --> 00:44:00,638 All my DVD's here are $10. 871 00:44:00,672 --> 00:44:02,473 Now, I want to start with this one 872 00:44:02,507 --> 00:44:04,710 because it is very hard to find. 873 00:44:04,743 --> 00:44:07,645 I don't even know if anybody has this except me at this point 874 00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:09,614 because this was ten years ago. 875 00:44:09,647 --> 00:44:11,116 -Um... -I got it. 876 00:44:11,149 --> 00:44:12,383 -Who? -I have it. 877 00:44:12,417 --> 00:44:15,153 878 00:44:15,186 --> 00:44:16,487 I love pinball. 879 00:44:16,521 --> 00:44:17,622 I love the hobby. 880 00:44:17,655 --> 00:44:20,591 My main objective here is to document 881 00:44:20,625 --> 00:44:23,528 every pinball machine that is in existence, 882 00:44:23,561 --> 00:44:24,595 up and running. 883 00:44:24,629 --> 00:44:25,864 I want to show this one. 884 00:44:25,897 --> 00:44:27,699 This is my biggest seller to date. 885 00:44:27,733 --> 00:44:31,636 Cost me $22 to make in gas. 886 00:44:31,669 --> 00:44:35,040 You know, 96 percent of my ideas pan out to money, 887 00:44:35,073 --> 00:44:37,542 'cause I have years of sales and marketing experience. 888 00:44:37,575 --> 00:44:40,478 Who would have even dreamed to tape video of a pinball show 889 00:44:40,511 --> 00:44:41,947 ten years ago? 890 00:44:41,980 --> 00:44:44,349 I didn't know this stuff would sell, did anybody else? 891 00:44:44,382 --> 00:44:45,383 Pfft. 892 00:44:58,163 --> 00:45:02,801 Then when you drain the ball, it kicks up over the switch. 893 00:45:02,834 --> 00:45:05,070 This relay disallows this switch, 894 00:45:05,103 --> 00:45:06,337 and then this drop switch-- 895 00:45:06,371 --> 00:45:09,574 And I could watch it over and over again myself, 896 00:45:09,607 --> 00:45:11,009 if I had the time. 897 00:45:11,042 --> 00:45:12,143 That was kind of weird. 898 00:45:12,177 --> 00:45:14,212 I'm here to save a hobby that saved my life 899 00:45:14,245 --> 00:45:15,847 because music has saved my life 900 00:45:15,881 --> 00:45:17,482 'cause I collect records all the time. 901 00:45:17,515 --> 00:45:18,649 I love music. 902 00:45:18,683 --> 00:45:20,018 I love the movie "Tommy." 903 00:45:20,051 --> 00:45:21,386 That changed my life, 'cause it was music, 904 00:45:21,419 --> 00:45:22,821 and it was about pinball. 905 00:45:22,854 --> 00:45:24,856 The arcades kept me going. 906 00:45:24,890 --> 00:45:26,925 I was pretty much raised in arcades 907 00:45:26,958 --> 00:45:29,660 because of divorce issues and just a mess. 908 00:45:29,694 --> 00:45:31,930 My whole life, up till past couple years, 909 00:45:31,963 --> 00:45:33,364 was just a nightmare, 910 00:45:33,398 --> 00:45:35,633 and now I'm getting recognition, you know, 911 00:45:35,666 --> 00:45:37,068 as this Pingeek character, 912 00:45:37,102 --> 00:45:40,238 just this guy runnin' around with a camcorder. 913 00:45:40,271 --> 00:45:41,572 Hold on, I gotta check my camcorder 914 00:45:41,606 --> 00:45:42,974 'cause I think I got a bad angle. 915 00:45:43,008 --> 00:45:44,776 I'm showin' my butt right now, hold on. 916 00:45:44,810 --> 00:45:48,379 Um... 917 00:45:48,413 --> 00:45:49,881 I'm single, and you got to be, 918 00:45:49,915 --> 00:45:52,350 because if you have a family, forget it. 919 00:45:52,383 --> 00:45:55,887 I mean, you can't be married and have kids and do this. 920 00:45:55,921 --> 00:45:57,122 It will kill you. 921 00:45:57,155 --> 00:45:58,790 You know, you can't do it. 922 00:45:58,824 --> 00:45:59,825 If you met the right woman, 923 00:45:59,858 --> 00:46:01,492 would you give up pinball for her? 924 00:46:01,526 --> 00:46:02,894 Absolutely not. 925 00:46:04,863 --> 00:46:07,866 I guess, uh, may, it-it-it would depend 926 00:46:07,899 --> 00:46:11,569 on what type of woman it is. 927 00:46:11,602 --> 00:46:12,971 You want "Pinball Fantasy"? 928 00:46:13,004 --> 00:46:14,372 Sure, that looks pretty cool. 929 00:46:14,405 --> 00:46:17,275 930 00:46:17,308 --> 00:46:20,111 What would make me happy? 931 00:46:22,647 --> 00:46:25,783 I'm Elton John at a baseball stadium by the show, 932 00:46:25,817 --> 00:46:28,920 or something that I can go in a glitter outfit, you know, 933 00:46:28,954 --> 00:46:30,956 and hop up on the stage and say, 934 00:46:30,989 --> 00:46:33,825 "Hey, I've arrived for the show, and guess who my ride is? 935 00:46:33,859 --> 00:46:35,026 It's this hot chick in leather pants," 936 00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:37,128 and I'm on a Harley, and in the back, 937 00:46:37,162 --> 00:46:39,264 she drops me off, and she goes, "You're Pingeek," 938 00:46:39,297 --> 00:46:41,199 and I go, "Yeah." 939 00:46:41,232 --> 00:46:43,301 Elton John was the ultimate showman in the '70s, 940 00:46:43,334 --> 00:46:46,037 and I want to be like him, I want to be a showman. 941 00:46:50,141 --> 00:46:51,809 I might be pinball's biggest fan. 942 00:46:51,843 --> 00:46:54,012 I really don't know, but it's just going out, 943 00:46:54,045 --> 00:46:56,781 having fun, saving a game from being thrown in the trash 944 00:46:56,814 --> 00:46:58,349 and bringing it back. 945 00:46:58,383 --> 00:47:01,719 You could call some of us geeks--even me, 946 00:47:01,752 --> 00:47:03,721 because we're all into the game, you know? 947 00:47:03,754 --> 00:47:05,490 And maybe that's not the coolest thing, 948 00:47:05,523 --> 00:47:08,326 so, you know--but hey, we're havin' fun with it. 949 00:47:10,128 --> 00:47:12,363 You know, everybody tells me what to do. 950 00:47:12,397 --> 00:47:14,065 Everybody tells me to take these drugs. 951 00:47:14,099 --> 00:47:15,867 I should be in an institution, I should be doing this. 952 00:47:15,901 --> 00:47:17,135 I should have kids. 953 00:47:17,168 --> 00:47:18,469 I should be doin' that. 954 00:47:18,503 --> 00:47:20,638 I get so much crap advice that, basically, 955 00:47:20,671 --> 00:47:23,141 I'd be dead and bankrupt if I listened to any of it, 956 00:47:23,174 --> 00:47:26,711 and, you know, I do my own thing. 957 00:47:26,744 --> 00:47:31,016 958 00:47:31,049 --> 00:47:33,151 People need to slow down and get back to basics here 959 00:47:33,184 --> 00:47:34,920 and talk to each other and, you know, 960 00:47:34,953 --> 00:47:37,222 there might not be all this fighting and war and shooting, 961 00:47:37,255 --> 00:47:39,190 and, you know, whatever happened 962 00:47:39,224 --> 00:47:41,759 to just goin' into a bar like John Wayne? 963 00:47:41,792 --> 00:47:42,827 You know, somebody said somethin' to you, 964 00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:43,962 you punch him out 965 00:47:43,995 --> 00:47:45,997 and then you have a drink over it later. 966 00:47:46,031 --> 00:47:50,568 967 00:47:50,601 --> 00:47:53,104 I give-I'm pretty go-- I've given up on mankind. 968 00:47:53,138 --> 00:47:54,772 We're all gonna die. 969 00:47:54,805 --> 00:47:56,441 I mean, it's--you know, it's inevitable, 970 00:47:56,474 --> 00:47:58,209 and the air's not getting any better anyway, 971 00:47:58,243 --> 00:48:01,412 but one person cannot save the world, I found that out, 972 00:48:01,446 --> 00:48:03,581 but I can try to save this industry and this hobby. 973 00:48:03,614 --> 00:48:05,883 I can do my best, I mean, you know? 974 00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:09,354 Yeah, I'm definitely misunderstood. 975 00:48:09,387 --> 00:48:11,856 I'm, you know... 976 00:48:11,889 --> 00:48:20,798 977 00:48:21,432 --> 00:48:29,607 978 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,743 Here's this landscape of things that are happening, 979 00:48:32,777 --> 00:48:35,613 and-and I can effect that change 980 00:48:35,646 --> 00:48:38,883 by the simple manipulation of pressing a button, 981 00:48:38,916 --> 00:48:40,618 and by pressing a button at the right time, 982 00:48:40,651 --> 00:48:43,989 that ball is going to be propelled into something 983 00:48:44,022 --> 00:48:47,292 that's gonna hit something, knock something, do whatever. 984 00:48:47,325 --> 00:48:50,628 You are the-the person that is, in some ways, 985 00:48:50,661 --> 00:48:52,497 controlling your own destiny. 986 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,904 I used to think that it was man versus machine, 987 00:48:59,937 --> 00:49:02,907 but I tended to back away and said, 988 00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:05,276 "It's not really man against machine. 989 00:49:05,310 --> 00:49:07,278 It's man with machine." 990 00:49:17,322 --> 00:49:20,691 If I can sense the rhythm of that game, 991 00:49:20,725 --> 00:49:22,160 the tempo of that game, 992 00:49:22,193 --> 00:49:26,531 I wanna be working in tandem with it. 993 00:49:26,564 --> 00:49:28,099 I don't want-- I'm not fighting it. 994 00:49:28,133 --> 00:49:28,966 I'm not fighting against it. 995 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,168 I'm workin' with it. 996 00:49:34,505 --> 00:49:37,208 You have to be in sync. 997 00:49:37,242 --> 00:49:39,344 You know, I-I want to give to that game 998 00:49:39,377 --> 00:49:42,047 and it's gonna give back to me. 999 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:42,680 Oh! 1000 00:49:44,815 --> 00:49:46,717 Holy cow. 1001 00:49:46,751 --> 00:49:48,686 Whoo! 1002 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,621 I guarantee you, it's chemically similar 1003 00:49:50,655 --> 00:49:52,357 to, uh, that of athletes. 1004 00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:54,592 Uh, when athletes, you know, get in the zone 1005 00:49:54,625 --> 00:49:56,361 they feel as though they're watching themselves, you know, 1006 00:49:56,394 --> 00:49:58,029 run the ball down the field. 1007 00:49:58,063 --> 00:50:01,366 It's--it is transcendent. 1008 00:50:01,399 --> 00:50:04,535 Pinball reminds me of, like, dreamin' because, like, 1009 00:50:04,569 --> 00:50:07,605 when I'm playin' the game, it's like, uh, 1010 00:50:07,638 --> 00:50:10,541 I'm not really with, like, reality. 1011 00:50:10,575 --> 00:50:14,179 I'm just kinda watchin' this ball kind of float around. 1012 00:50:14,212 --> 00:50:16,147 It's like bein' in some place where you don't really know 1013 00:50:16,181 --> 00:50:17,448 what you're doin', 1014 00:50:17,482 --> 00:50:19,384 but yet, you're watching what you're doin', 1015 00:50:19,417 --> 00:50:22,320 and you're trying to concentrate on it, and it feels like-- 1016 00:50:22,353 --> 00:50:24,122 it feels like a dream. 1017 00:50:24,155 --> 00:50:27,692 It really is a unique feeling to become one with the machine. 1018 00:50:27,725 --> 00:50:31,429 To-to tell that ball where it's gonna go 1019 00:50:31,462 --> 00:50:33,964 and have your fingers and your flippers 1020 00:50:33,998 --> 00:50:36,033 and your shaking ability put that ball 1021 00:50:36,067 --> 00:50:37,702 where it's supposed to go. 1022 00:50:37,735 --> 00:50:39,904 It's sort of a Zen, 1023 00:50:39,937 --> 00:50:43,241 when you're sort of meditating and you just-- 1024 00:50:43,274 --> 00:50:45,676 and that's all you're concentrated on is the pinball. 1025 00:50:45,710 --> 00:50:47,912 You can forget everything else. 1026 00:50:47,945 --> 00:50:50,848 It just feels like, you know, here's the flippers, 1027 00:50:50,881 --> 00:50:52,517 and the more you get in the zone, 1028 00:50:52,550 --> 00:50:54,485 it just feels like the flippers are together 1029 00:50:54,519 --> 00:50:56,387 and you can't lose the ball out the middle. 1030 00:50:58,589 --> 00:50:59,590 You've built it up and built it up, 1031 00:50:59,624 --> 00:51:01,692 and now comes the big multi-ball, 1032 00:51:01,726 --> 00:51:05,029 the one you've been trying to get for 20 games, 1033 00:51:05,062 --> 00:51:07,398 and you play that, uh, for all it's worth, 1034 00:51:07,432 --> 00:51:09,867 and you stretch it out and you embellish it, 1035 00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:12,837 and you let all the people that are watching know that, 1036 00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:14,839 "look at this person, this person's just done 1037 00:51:14,872 --> 00:51:16,807 a very difficult thing here. 1038 00:51:16,841 --> 00:51:19,777 He must be-- he must be special." 1039 00:51:19,810 --> 00:51:21,346 Uh-oh. 1040 00:51:25,250 --> 00:51:26,684 Of course, when you get to put your initials on, 1041 00:51:26,717 --> 00:51:29,053 it's like, "There I am, I own this game." 1042 00:51:29,086 --> 00:51:32,823 I, uh--I put a lot of playtime in on this machine, 1043 00:51:32,857 --> 00:51:34,692 and I try to, I try to defend it. 1044 00:51:34,725 --> 00:51:37,562 It's my home territory, so I try to make sure 1045 00:51:37,595 --> 00:51:42,400 that people see my name in as many games as possible. 1046 00:51:42,433 --> 00:51:45,470 One particular day, when I was playing, 1047 00:51:45,503 --> 00:51:48,606 where I--I was just simply ahead of the machine. 1048 00:51:48,639 --> 00:51:50,675 The machine couldn't keep up with me and I was accumulating 1049 00:51:50,708 --> 00:51:53,944 so many free games, and I could not leave 1050 00:51:53,978 --> 00:51:57,282 'cause I did not want to lose these free games, 1051 00:51:57,315 --> 00:51:58,883 and eventually, after about three or four hours, 1052 00:51:58,916 --> 00:52:00,885 I had to go, 1053 00:52:00,918 --> 00:52:03,554 so in a sense, there's, there is a possibility, 1054 00:52:03,588 --> 00:52:05,723 you have the illusion that you've won. 1055 00:52:08,726 --> 00:52:11,929 There is something inevitable about losing at pinball, 1056 00:52:11,962 --> 00:52:15,166 and I think that's a blessing, because there's a feeling 1057 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,235 often when you're playing pinball 1058 00:52:17,268 --> 00:52:20,471 that the machine decides when you need to go home, 1059 00:52:20,505 --> 00:52:24,041 and if you're tired enough, you'll start playing poorly, 1060 00:52:24,074 --> 00:52:25,776 and the machine notices that, 1061 00:52:25,810 --> 00:52:29,614 and it wipes you out and it sends you packing. 1062 00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:38,756 The object of play in pinball is a high score. 1063 00:52:38,789 --> 00:52:41,826 If you score enough, you win a free game. 1064 00:52:43,761 --> 00:52:46,831 The way to win is to control the ball, 1065 00:52:46,864 --> 00:52:48,065 either with the flippers 1066 00:52:48,098 --> 00:52:51,502 or by careful nudging of the entire machine. 1067 00:52:53,404 --> 00:52:56,241 You know, you see a truly skilled pinball player, 1068 00:52:56,274 --> 00:52:57,875 you realize it is a game of skill, 1069 00:52:57,908 --> 00:53:00,010 not a game of chance. 1070 00:53:03,013 --> 00:53:06,050 When I started, we started with small flippers. 1071 00:53:06,083 --> 00:53:10,221 You basically played, you know, gun and run, 1072 00:53:10,255 --> 00:53:11,722 run and gun. 1073 00:53:11,756 --> 00:53:13,758 Ball's coming down, boom. 1074 00:53:16,494 --> 00:53:18,229 And just pound away, just do it. 1075 00:53:18,263 --> 00:53:20,265 I mean, it's-- it's pure adrenaline, 1076 00:53:20,298 --> 00:53:21,699 and it's pure reflex. 1077 00:53:21,732 --> 00:53:25,169 It is the spontaneity of that reflex. 1078 00:53:26,704 --> 00:53:29,073 Now what you have are players who control 1079 00:53:29,106 --> 00:53:30,875 the tempo of the game. 1080 00:53:33,744 --> 00:53:36,080 I see it with my sons, in all honesty. 1081 00:53:36,113 --> 00:53:38,215 I mean, there are times where I just stand back 1082 00:53:38,249 --> 00:53:40,585 and I marvel at the fact that they have 1083 00:53:40,618 --> 00:53:42,520 the ability that they have. 1084 00:53:44,088 --> 00:53:45,690 One of the ways that I've become a better player, 1085 00:53:45,723 --> 00:53:46,824 and I think it's sort of the difference 1086 00:53:46,857 --> 00:53:49,159 between how I approach a game of pinball 1087 00:53:49,193 --> 00:53:52,430 and how our dad approaches a game of pinball. 1088 00:53:52,463 --> 00:53:54,465 I look at a game, I try to find a weakness, 1089 00:53:54,499 --> 00:53:57,768 and I try to exploit that weakness for my own gain, 1090 00:53:57,802 --> 00:54:00,405 whereas, you know, my dad will sit and shoot a ramp 1091 00:54:00,438 --> 00:54:02,573 over and over again for no points, 1092 00:54:02,607 --> 00:54:04,475 because the shot feels good. 1093 00:54:05,810 --> 00:54:07,845 And it's like-- 1094 00:54:14,184 --> 00:54:15,185 It's very serious. 1095 00:54:15,219 --> 00:54:17,888 They train and they have training sessions. 1096 00:54:19,624 --> 00:54:23,828 This is a sport, you're gonna work a sweat. 1097 00:54:23,861 --> 00:54:25,496 I've seen some players play where their entire body, 1098 00:54:25,530 --> 00:54:27,798 like, floats up from the game. 1099 00:54:31,502 --> 00:54:34,805 You know, you're down there playin' for five or six hours. 1100 00:54:34,839 --> 00:54:37,675 To stand and stay focused that long, it's, 1101 00:54:37,708 --> 00:54:40,911 it's pretty draining. 1102 00:54:40,945 --> 00:54:43,348 I'm sore in my legs. 1103 00:54:43,381 --> 00:54:46,116 I'm sore in my shoulders, 1104 00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:48,886 underneath my arms, my calves. 1105 00:54:50,154 --> 00:54:51,622 You want to build up those pinball muscles. 1106 00:54:51,656 --> 00:54:53,524 I know it sounds crazy, 1107 00:54:53,558 --> 00:54:56,361 but we are athletes. 1108 00:55:02,199 --> 00:55:03,934 I've always wanted to be the champion of the world 1109 00:55:03,968 --> 00:55:06,637 in something, 1110 00:55:06,671 --> 00:55:10,207 and then I had to figure out what it was gonna be in, 1111 00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:12,910 and then I figured out that it's gonna be pinball. 1112 00:55:14,679 --> 00:55:17,114 And later on tonight, Rick Stetta, who's being crowned 1113 00:55:17,147 --> 00:55:19,216 the new pinball wizard of the world. 1114 00:55:21,318 --> 00:55:26,056 It was really in 1991, I think, Rick Stetta became our first 1115 00:55:26,090 --> 00:55:29,259 really recognized world champion. 1116 00:55:29,293 --> 00:55:31,396 Rick Stetta. 1117 00:55:31,429 --> 00:55:33,063 Thirty-two. 1118 00:55:33,097 --> 00:55:35,566 Sunnyvale, California. 1119 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,102 World's best pinball player. 1120 00:55:38,135 --> 00:55:42,373 Well, I...don't really have a job. 1121 00:55:42,407 --> 00:55:46,143 1122 00:55:46,176 --> 00:55:49,380 I was the same person I always was 1123 00:55:49,414 --> 00:55:52,249 before I got all my publicity, 1124 00:55:52,282 --> 00:55:54,151 just a guy that went out and, and liked playing 1125 00:55:54,184 --> 00:55:57,121 the machines, and-- and, you know, 1126 00:55:57,154 --> 00:55:59,524 nobody... 1127 00:55:59,557 --> 00:56:01,225 nobody thought that much of me, you know? 1128 00:56:01,258 --> 00:56:05,095 Um, they thought, you know, I was pretty much, you know, 1129 00:56:05,129 --> 00:56:07,532 just some, some weird guy that was out doin' stuff 1130 00:56:07,565 --> 00:56:09,266 by himself, 1131 00:56:09,299 --> 00:56:13,871 and, um, just out of touch with life. 1132 00:56:13,904 --> 00:56:16,040 I started playing when I was 10 years old, 1133 00:56:16,073 --> 00:56:18,809 and when I was 15, I decided to dedicate my life to it, 1134 00:56:18,843 --> 00:56:20,778 become the best in the world. 1135 00:56:20,811 --> 00:56:24,214 I practice three to four hours a day, on the average, 1136 00:56:24,248 --> 00:56:25,516 and that's almost every day. 1137 00:56:25,550 --> 00:56:27,918 I miss about one day a month. 1138 00:56:27,952 --> 00:56:29,520 It's addictive. 1139 00:56:29,554 --> 00:56:31,556 You start thinking about when you're gonna get your, 1140 00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:33,991 your next one and where it's gonna be from, 1141 00:56:34,024 --> 00:56:36,527 and what it's gonna be like. 1142 00:56:36,561 --> 00:56:38,996 Yeah, it's the whole thing. 1143 00:56:43,668 --> 00:56:48,439 Pinball has gotten a lot more complicated nowadays, 1144 00:56:48,473 --> 00:56:52,042 and it's becoming more and more unclear to me 1145 00:56:52,076 --> 00:56:56,380 how people are getting big scores. 1146 00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:58,449 I was trying to see if my name was still on it, too, 1147 00:56:58,483 --> 00:57:03,420 but mine had actually fallen off of the number 1-through-25 list. 1148 00:57:03,454 --> 00:57:04,722 Besides, all the world really wants to know 1149 00:57:04,755 --> 00:57:06,724 is who's in the top ten. 1150 00:57:15,399 --> 00:57:17,868 Yeah, sometimes you see it all when, 1151 00:57:17,902 --> 00:57:19,804 when you're playing really well. 1152 00:57:19,837 --> 00:57:21,572 I can see a ball going toward the out lane 1153 00:57:21,606 --> 00:57:22,840 at 12 inches away, 1154 00:57:22,873 --> 00:57:25,209 and know that I have to do something right away, 1155 00:57:25,242 --> 00:57:27,077 and I'll nudge the machine, and when the ball gets there, 1156 00:57:27,111 --> 00:57:31,949 it just does this thing off the post and rolls in. 1157 00:57:31,982 --> 00:57:34,619 Like I knew, I could see it. 1158 00:57:34,652 --> 00:57:36,754 When I watched him, he does the routine 1159 00:57:36,787 --> 00:57:38,956 where he's, like, you know, just-- 1160 00:57:38,989 --> 00:57:41,492 you know, like a mime or somethin' like this, 1161 00:57:41,526 --> 00:57:44,328 sizin' up the game and tips it a little bit. 1162 00:57:44,361 --> 00:57:47,031 He respects the game, he wipes it off with whatever. 1163 00:57:47,064 --> 00:57:49,266 and he's got this own routine that's only his. 1164 00:57:49,299 --> 00:57:52,036 Nobody can do it, but the body English and everything, 1165 00:57:52,069 --> 00:57:53,437 he's just one with the game, 1166 00:57:53,470 --> 00:57:57,074 and I want to do what he's doing. 1167 00:57:57,107 --> 00:58:01,411 The way I play, I've got this dance thing goin' on, you know, 1168 00:58:01,445 --> 00:58:04,815 and I could be, like, on one hand and one heel, 1169 00:58:04,849 --> 00:58:08,986 and then I'm making my decision how to hit that machine 1170 00:58:09,019 --> 00:58:12,256 from that odd pose. 1171 00:58:12,289 --> 00:58:16,961 But I would be in that spot because the way I play, 1172 00:58:16,994 --> 00:58:19,129 it was determined that that's where I was supposed to be 1173 00:58:19,163 --> 00:58:23,467 before that ball was there, and then I'd pop it 1174 00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:26,571 and change my stance and watch the ball roll in 1175 00:58:26,604 --> 00:58:29,574 and, and play the ball, and I'd st--I'd be amazed. 1176 00:58:29,607 --> 00:58:31,609 No matter how many times I'd see something odd like that, 1177 00:58:31,642 --> 00:58:36,413 each time that I would see it, I would be amazed. 1178 00:58:38,983 --> 00:58:42,687 1179 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,156 I would hate to be 95 years old and look back on my life 1180 00:58:46,190 --> 00:58:50,661 and say, "You know, what I really wanted to do 1181 00:58:50,695 --> 00:58:54,264 was play pinball, but, gee, my mom told me 1182 00:58:54,298 --> 00:58:58,202 that I should get a career." 1183 00:58:58,235 --> 00:59:00,905 Pinball makes me feel very special 1184 00:59:00,938 --> 00:59:03,841 because I have pinball as my own world, 1185 00:59:03,874 --> 00:59:07,578 always something that's there for me. 1186 00:59:07,612 --> 00:59:11,616 Pinball is a prize, 1187 00:59:11,649 --> 00:59:15,552 a diamond in the rough that I have personally shined. 1188 00:59:15,586 --> 00:59:19,456 Pinball is something that's done something for me 1189 00:59:19,489 --> 00:59:23,193 that I had to discover for myself, 1190 00:59:23,227 --> 00:59:26,997 that was already there in a world that-- 1191 00:59:27,031 --> 00:59:30,635 that gives us all kinds of input about stuff 1192 00:59:30,668 --> 00:59:32,937 that we don't even want to hear 1193 00:59:32,970 --> 00:59:35,906 other people's input about. 1194 00:59:35,940 --> 00:59:37,507 The input I got about pinball 1195 00:59:37,541 --> 00:59:40,210 was that it was something negative, 1196 00:59:40,244 --> 00:59:42,179 and I knew 1197 00:59:42,212 --> 00:59:46,350 that all that input was mistaken. 1198 00:59:46,383 --> 00:59:51,255 Pinball is a world of, of special rules and, 1199 00:59:51,288 --> 00:59:55,125 and unique opportunities and entertainment coming out 1200 00:59:55,159 --> 00:59:59,529 of seemingly nowhere. 1201 00:59:59,563 --> 01:00:01,131 I would even go as far as to say 1202 01:00:01,165 --> 01:00:05,069 as I am special because of pinball. 1203 01:00:05,102 --> 01:00:12,843 1204 01:00:14,078 --> 01:00:22,319 1205 01:00:22,352 --> 01:00:23,821 I always played pinball, 1206 01:00:23,854 --> 01:00:26,023 and my friends and I were always into it, 1207 01:00:26,056 --> 01:00:30,060 but we never had any idea that there was pinball competitions. 1208 01:00:30,094 --> 01:00:32,129 "Wow, we've got to go to these things 1209 01:00:32,162 --> 01:00:36,566 and I'm gonna go and annihilate everybody." 1210 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,737 And we went to our first show and your heart would be pounding 1211 01:00:39,770 --> 01:00:42,807 and you'd be shakin' a little, and just so nervous that it-- 1212 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,241 it was really difficult to play. 1213 01:00:44,274 --> 01:00:45,810 You'd choke, you wouldn't do well, 1214 01:00:45,843 --> 01:00:47,644 and you have to wait a year till you get back 1215 01:00:47,678 --> 01:00:50,347 to try it again, you know? 1216 01:00:50,380 --> 01:00:51,615 Aww! 1217 01:00:51,648 --> 01:00:54,551 There's, like, 10 women and, you know, 200 men, 1218 01:00:54,584 --> 01:00:57,087 but pay no mind to it. 1219 01:00:57,121 --> 01:01:03,327 1220 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,095 It's not as popular with girls as is with boys, 1221 01:01:05,129 --> 01:01:06,897 but we can play just as well. 1222 01:01:06,931 --> 01:01:13,904 1223 01:01:16,907 --> 01:01:26,951 1224 01:01:26,951 --> 01:01:31,889 1225 01:01:31,922 --> 01:01:36,193 There's a strong mental component to remain calm 1226 01:01:36,226 --> 01:01:38,628 and in control. 1227 01:01:38,662 --> 01:01:40,630 The best players will never do something 1228 01:01:40,664 --> 01:01:43,868 that affects the ball unless they do it for a purpose, 1229 01:01:43,901 --> 01:01:45,435 and ball control doesn't just mean 1230 01:01:45,469 --> 01:01:46,971 always catching the ball and holding it. 1231 01:01:47,004 --> 01:01:49,406 It also means putting the ball where you want it 1232 01:01:49,439 --> 01:01:51,141 so that you know where it's gonna be next, 1233 01:01:51,175 --> 01:01:53,310 not just where it is right now. 1234 01:01:53,343 --> 01:01:55,545 You know, people in A division, you know, it's, like, 1235 01:01:55,579 --> 01:01:57,447 it's just amazing to watch, watch them play. 1236 01:01:57,481 --> 01:02:00,617 Like, they-they do stuff that, uh, that sometime, 1237 01:02:00,650 --> 01:02:03,553 you would think was not possible. 1238 01:02:03,587 --> 01:02:07,457 And I think that it's special to see incredible play, 1239 01:02:07,491 --> 01:02:12,262 because it combines chess with true physical inner activity 1240 01:02:12,296 --> 01:02:15,199 and people who have, you know, the ability 1241 01:02:15,232 --> 01:02:18,535 to hold their concentration, have the reflexes, uh, 1242 01:02:18,568 --> 01:02:20,670 know how to dissect a play field 1243 01:02:20,704 --> 01:02:22,807 and the objectives and the rules, 1244 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,977 into something that is as elegant as watching a ballet. 1245 01:02:27,011 --> 01:02:37,054 1246 01:02:37,054 --> 01:02:47,064 1247 01:02:59,409 --> 01:03:01,445 I would say most of my vacation time 1248 01:03:01,478 --> 01:03:04,915 is, uh, pinball shows. 1249 01:03:04,949 --> 01:03:07,717 My mother lives, uh, lives with me in New Jersey, 1250 01:03:07,751 --> 01:03:09,219 and I tell her I'm goin' to these shows, 1251 01:03:09,253 --> 01:03:12,890 She said, "Go ahead, enjoy yourself." 1252 01:03:12,923 --> 01:03:14,224 She says, "You gotta have some fun, 1253 01:03:14,258 --> 01:03:16,861 so go ahead, enjoy yourself." 1254 01:03:19,429 --> 01:03:22,432 Six million! 1255 01:03:22,466 --> 01:03:25,903 And basically, I'm a synthetic organic chemist. 1256 01:03:25,936 --> 01:03:30,374 Actually, uh, been working on, uh, they're trying to find 1257 01:03:30,407 --> 01:03:33,110 a treatment for, for Alzheimer's disease. 1258 01:03:33,143 --> 01:03:37,381 Fifty million! 1259 01:03:37,414 --> 01:03:39,716 I like chess, I like to solve math puzzles. 1260 01:03:39,749 --> 01:03:41,051 Gonna have to wait. 1261 01:03:41,085 --> 01:03:42,853 You know, I like, uh, bowling. 1262 01:03:42,887 --> 01:03:44,821 Then I'm a, I'm a big rail fan, 1263 01:03:44,855 --> 01:03:46,256 so I like to ride-- 1264 01:03:46,290 --> 01:03:50,027 I like to ride subways. 1265 01:03:50,060 --> 01:03:52,662 I really haven't made it to, um, finals, and, um, 1266 01:03:52,696 --> 01:03:54,031 or made a tournament in a while. 1267 01:03:54,064 --> 01:03:57,201 I think I, I did it, I did it once in--it was '99, 1268 01:03:57,234 --> 01:03:59,603 and--but I got eliminated, unfortunately, 1269 01:03:59,636 --> 01:04:02,839 so I'm hoping to, uh, you know, to actually win 1270 01:04:02,873 --> 01:04:05,242 a major tournament. 1271 01:04:05,275 --> 01:04:16,420 1272 01:04:16,453 --> 01:04:19,856 * A storm is brewin' along the horizon 1273 01:04:19,890 --> 01:04:22,726 * Clouds gettin' darker, but my sun is still risin' 1274 01:04:22,759 --> 01:04:26,530 * Surprisin' villagers, flooding cities and towns 1275 01:04:26,563 --> 01:04:28,665 * Down with the strong, and I could be cut down 1276 01:04:28,698 --> 01:04:30,968 The Storm is, uh, my nickname. 1277 01:04:31,001 --> 01:04:32,669 I came up with it myself. 1278 01:04:32,702 --> 01:04:35,572 * To rectify, electrify your brain 1279 01:04:35,605 --> 01:04:36,974 * Eyes closed in terror 1280 01:04:37,007 --> 01:04:38,342 I was born and raised in Manhattan. 1281 01:04:38,375 --> 01:04:40,945 I-I started playing pinball when I was four years old, 1282 01:04:40,978 --> 01:04:44,348 so pinball and I kind of grew up together. 1283 01:04:44,381 --> 01:04:48,785 I want to win, and I want to beat the best. 1284 01:04:48,818 --> 01:04:53,290 I don't go day to day thinking that I'm second-best. 1285 01:04:53,323 --> 01:04:56,260 It makes it much easier to live thinking that I'm the best 1286 01:04:56,293 --> 01:04:57,727 and I just haven't had my moment. 1287 01:04:59,363 --> 01:05:02,299 What's really important when you play pinball 1288 01:05:02,332 --> 01:05:05,169 at the world-championship level 1289 01:05:05,202 --> 01:05:07,871 is to get your mentality straight, 1290 01:05:07,904 --> 01:05:10,607 to be sharp, and to have a killer instinct. 1291 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,777 Get in there! 1292 01:05:13,810 --> 01:05:18,482 Because everyone is so good that you need the mental edge. 1293 01:05:18,515 --> 01:05:22,953 I deliberately pump myself up to bring that killer instinct 1294 01:05:22,987 --> 01:05:25,689 up to the highest level, 1295 01:05:25,722 --> 01:05:27,824 so that's where it's a storm, 1296 01:05:27,857 --> 01:05:30,127 because you got two totally conflicting things. 1297 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,730 You got this placid, Buddha, meditative state, 1298 01:05:33,763 --> 01:05:37,134 and you have this devilish fire, 1299 01:05:37,167 --> 01:05:39,169 screaming-madman state 1300 01:05:39,203 --> 01:05:40,937 going on at the same time. 1301 01:05:42,973 --> 01:05:44,808 And if you can balance those two things, 1302 01:05:44,841 --> 01:05:47,811 you'll be unbeatable, and sometimes I am. 1303 01:05:52,149 --> 01:05:54,318 And I feel like an outsider. 1304 01:05:54,351 --> 01:05:58,755 I feel kind of like someone that they all think 1305 01:05:58,788 --> 01:06:00,324 they're better than, 1306 01:06:00,357 --> 01:06:02,626 and I know for a fact that I can beat them, 1307 01:06:02,659 --> 01:06:04,261 and I haven't proved that yet. 1308 01:06:06,096 --> 01:06:08,698 There is enough of a skill element 1309 01:06:08,732 --> 01:06:11,201 that the best players always rise to the top, 1310 01:06:11,235 --> 01:06:12,869 but there's enough of a luck element 1311 01:06:12,902 --> 01:06:14,538 that everyone should have their day, 1312 01:06:14,571 --> 01:06:16,406 and I haven't had mine yet. 1313 01:06:23,047 --> 01:06:24,614 One of the gentlemen here, Neil Shatz, 1314 01:06:24,648 --> 01:06:27,984 has been in the finals three or four different times, 1315 01:06:28,018 --> 01:06:29,886 and it's, like, if there is a pinball god, 1316 01:06:29,919 --> 01:06:32,322 maybe they're cursing him because he's second place 1317 01:06:32,356 --> 01:06:33,990 or third place, and he's so great. 1318 01:06:34,024 --> 01:06:36,760 He deserves to win finally, and so if, 1319 01:06:36,793 --> 01:06:38,228 if I were to pick someone to win-- 1320 01:06:38,262 --> 01:06:39,596 well, I'd pick me, 1321 01:06:39,629 --> 01:06:40,930 but, uh, if I were to pick two people to win, 1322 01:06:40,964 --> 01:06:42,266 I'd pick him. 1323 01:06:45,502 --> 01:06:48,738 I've taken, uh, second at PAPA. 1324 01:06:48,772 --> 01:06:53,477 I've taken second in Pinburgh, and second place in Arizona, 1325 01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:57,114 uh, second place at the Pinathon is Roseville. 1326 01:06:57,147 --> 01:06:59,816 Second at Expo I believe three times in A, 1327 01:06:59,849 --> 01:07:02,186 and then I won the B division. 1328 01:07:06,190 --> 01:07:10,327 I started the competitive circuit in, uh, 1992, 1329 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,162 and then when I went to that first tournament, 1330 01:07:12,196 --> 01:07:16,233 I took second behind Rick and got a book for it, 1331 01:07:16,266 --> 01:07:19,869 and then I realized I was hooked at that point. 1332 01:07:25,675 --> 01:07:28,312 Sometimes, I've made mental mistakes and, 1333 01:07:28,345 --> 01:07:30,480 and then it's really tough to deal with. 1334 01:07:30,514 --> 01:07:32,716 It's frustrating, but other times 1335 01:07:32,749 --> 01:07:35,051 I think I've played to the best of my ability, 1336 01:07:35,085 --> 01:07:37,621 not made any mistakes, and it's that knowledge 1337 01:07:37,654 --> 01:07:40,224 of knowin' that pinball can deal you bad breaks 1338 01:07:40,257 --> 01:07:43,760 and it's no one's fault that, um, I think helps me deal 1339 01:07:43,793 --> 01:07:46,296 with a lot of those situations, but sure, yeah. 1340 01:07:46,330 --> 01:07:49,933 It's, it's tough, um, but I enjoy just 1341 01:07:49,966 --> 01:07:52,969 the thrill of competition, so I think that just 1342 01:07:53,002 --> 01:07:57,707 keeps me comin' back, regardless of the result. 1343 01:07:57,741 --> 01:07:59,909 Give me a typical moment this morning, guys? 1344 01:07:59,943 --> 01:08:03,480 Trying to, uh, last-minute qualify here. 1345 01:08:03,513 --> 01:08:05,982 And another thing too is just happening to have 1346 01:08:06,015 --> 01:08:08,452 my competitive career when, you know, 1347 01:08:08,485 --> 01:08:13,257 some true giants of the game were also, um, in their prime. 1348 01:08:13,290 --> 01:08:15,892 I mean, Bowen Kerins, 1349 01:08:15,925 --> 01:08:18,328 Keith Elwin, Lyman Sheats Jr. 1350 01:08:18,362 --> 01:08:22,266 Absolutely, I think those guys are simply better players. 1351 01:08:22,299 --> 01:08:24,301 Maybe none better than Lyman Sheats. 1352 01:08:24,334 --> 01:08:25,269 Lyman Sheats. 1353 01:08:25,302 --> 01:08:25,869 Lyman Sheats. 1354 01:08:25,902 --> 01:08:27,204 Lyman Sheats. 1355 01:08:27,237 --> 01:08:28,838 He's the best pinball player in the world. 1356 01:08:30,207 --> 01:08:31,308 I'm a game programmer. 1357 01:08:31,341 --> 01:08:34,444 I, uh, program, uh, pinball machines, 1358 01:08:34,478 --> 01:08:37,781 work with designers, uh, and, uh, basically 1359 01:08:37,814 --> 01:08:40,917 make the game do all of what it does. 1360 01:08:43,253 --> 01:08:46,556 While I was in college, it was around 1986. 1361 01:08:46,590 --> 01:08:48,892 You know, bein' in college, it's kinda 1362 01:08:48,925 --> 01:08:50,760 low-pressure, fun environment, 1363 01:08:50,794 --> 01:08:52,596 and it just, uh-- I don't know, 1364 01:08:52,629 --> 01:08:55,232 I just kinda took to it as a, as a very inexpensive 1365 01:08:55,265 --> 01:08:59,169 form of entertainment. 1366 01:08:59,203 --> 01:09:01,070 It was about five years after that 1367 01:09:01,104 --> 01:09:03,607 that I started competing. 1368 01:09:05,942 --> 01:09:08,011 There are, like, a couple techniques I try and, 1369 01:09:08,044 --> 01:09:10,647 you know, teach at first. 1370 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,816 The easiest thing is to just hit the flippers, 1371 01:09:12,849 --> 01:09:14,418 uh, individually. 1372 01:09:14,451 --> 01:09:16,119 Uh, you know, just at separate times. 1373 01:09:16,152 --> 01:09:17,621 I don't know, you know, if people, 1374 01:09:17,654 --> 01:09:18,755 I see a lot of people, you know, 1375 01:09:18,788 --> 01:09:20,957 they hit both flippers at the same time. 1376 01:09:20,990 --> 01:09:23,026 The other is, it's pretty easy 1377 01:09:23,059 --> 01:09:25,829 to just not do anything, 1378 01:09:25,862 --> 01:09:27,897 um, in terms of when the ball is coming down. 1379 01:09:27,931 --> 01:09:30,467 I mean, I always, like, try and stress ball control 1380 01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:33,203 to people who, um-- 1381 01:09:34,938 --> 01:09:37,207 You know, when they first play. 1382 01:09:37,241 --> 01:09:39,175 Try and get the balls under control 1383 01:09:39,209 --> 01:09:40,977 in multi-ball here. 1384 01:09:41,010 --> 01:09:42,712 I'm actually gonna try and get one of these balls 1385 01:09:42,746 --> 01:09:45,315 over the other flipper so I can make a shot, 1386 01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:47,884 score some points. 1387 01:09:47,917 --> 01:09:50,320 Sort of like that. 1388 01:09:50,354 --> 01:09:53,156 Lyman Sheats, never had seen him before, 1389 01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:56,360 and I watched this person methodically 1390 01:09:56,393 --> 01:10:00,364 do a passing shot over, make the shot, kick down, go up, 1391 01:10:00,397 --> 01:10:02,098 passing shot, over. 1392 01:10:02,131 --> 01:10:04,501 So--so, like that. 1393 01:10:04,534 --> 01:10:05,869 Bounce the ball over to the other flipper. 1394 01:10:05,902 --> 01:10:07,504 Now it's under control just because-- 1395 01:10:07,537 --> 01:10:10,640 And I just watched in disbelief, and I said, "This is amazing. 1396 01:10:10,674 --> 01:10:12,041 This is incredible." 1397 01:10:12,075 --> 01:10:13,743 I'd never thought of playing pinball that way. 1398 01:10:13,777 --> 01:10:23,086 1399 01:10:23,119 --> 01:10:24,621 The what? 1400 01:10:24,654 --> 01:10:25,889 The what? 1401 01:10:25,922 --> 01:10:31,194 1402 01:10:31,227 --> 01:10:32,762 I don't even know nothin' about it. 1403 01:10:32,796 --> 01:10:36,366 1404 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:37,634 What's that, pinball? 1405 01:10:37,667 --> 01:10:38,668 Pinball? 1406 01:10:38,702 --> 01:10:39,703 Play pinball? 1407 01:10:39,736 --> 01:10:42,339 1408 01:10:42,372 --> 01:10:45,642 World Pinball Championship. 1409 01:10:45,675 --> 01:10:46,910 Here we are. 1410 01:10:46,943 --> 01:10:49,546 World Pinball Championships. 1411 01:10:49,579 --> 01:10:50,880 I didn't even know they were having 1412 01:10:50,914 --> 01:10:52,516 a pinball championship here. 1413 01:10:52,549 --> 01:11:04,394 1414 01:11:04,428 --> 01:11:06,396 PAPA was actually started by Steve Epstein 1415 01:11:06,430 --> 01:11:07,964 in New York City. 1416 01:11:07,997 --> 01:11:09,699 He did the first six of them. 1417 01:11:09,733 --> 01:11:11,335 What exactly is PAPA? 1418 01:11:11,368 --> 01:11:14,538 PAPA is the Professional Amateur Pinball Association. 1419 01:11:14,571 --> 01:11:18,475 And then Kevin got the rights to take it over, 1420 01:11:18,508 --> 01:11:20,344 and then he built this place. 1421 01:11:23,179 --> 01:11:26,683 This is about 30,000 square feet of space 1422 01:11:26,716 --> 01:11:30,454 for about 350 or so pinball machines. 1423 01:11:30,487 --> 01:11:33,657 It was built in 2004. 1424 01:11:33,690 --> 01:11:37,594 It was finished about one day before the actual tournament. 1425 01:11:37,627 --> 01:11:38,862 We had the tournament. 1426 01:11:38,895 --> 01:11:40,096 Everyone came here. 1427 01:11:40,129 --> 01:11:43,132 Everyone had a great time, and within one week 1428 01:11:43,166 --> 01:11:46,803 there was a hurricane named Ivan that came up the East Coast, 1429 01:11:46,836 --> 01:11:49,806 and the, the little creek in front of here 1430 01:11:49,839 --> 01:11:51,675 overflowed its banks. 1431 01:11:51,708 --> 01:11:56,646 1432 01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,147 Well, the flood was five feet high 1433 01:11:58,181 --> 01:11:59,483 in some places, 1434 01:11:59,516 --> 01:12:01,718 and I was out here when it was happening, 1435 01:12:01,751 --> 01:12:03,186 and there was nothing to be done about it. 1436 01:12:03,219 --> 01:12:06,122 It destroyed 240 pinball machines 1437 01:12:06,155 --> 01:12:08,024 and about a dozen video games. 1438 01:12:08,057 --> 01:12:18,101 1439 01:12:18,101 --> 01:12:23,673 1440 01:12:23,707 --> 01:12:25,509 All of the machines were taken out front 1441 01:12:25,542 --> 01:12:27,744 and basically smashed for parts. 1442 01:12:27,777 --> 01:12:33,082 1443 01:12:33,116 --> 01:12:34,851 It was heartbreaking. 1444 01:12:34,884 --> 01:12:38,488 It was everything we had just finished, was washed away. 1445 01:12:38,522 --> 01:12:41,825 1446 01:12:41,858 --> 01:12:43,627 We call it the graveyard. 1447 01:12:46,496 --> 01:12:48,131 You never know when you need a part. 1448 01:12:48,164 --> 01:12:55,972 1449 01:12:56,005 --> 01:12:59,509 I was just frustrated and-- and wanted to get the place 1450 01:12:59,543 --> 01:13:04,280 cleaned up so I could decide if I wanted to try again. 1451 01:13:04,313 --> 01:13:07,350 It did prove possible to clean up and rebuild. 1452 01:13:07,383 --> 01:13:10,987 Kevin rebuilt it and purchased all the machines within a year, 1453 01:13:11,020 --> 01:13:13,523 and we got it open again 1454 01:13:13,557 --> 01:13:15,792 about one day before it was ready to go last year, 1455 01:13:15,825 --> 01:13:17,427 and we were ready to go again. 1456 01:13:19,362 --> 01:13:20,630 Uh, it's what I wanna do, 1457 01:13:20,664 --> 01:13:22,331 and I had barely really gotten started. 1458 01:13:22,365 --> 01:13:24,634 It seemed silly to only do it once. 1459 01:13:35,078 --> 01:13:40,917 1460 01:13:45,088 --> 01:13:55,131 1461 01:13:55,131 --> 01:14:05,208 1462 01:14:23,192 --> 01:14:25,562 You can have a great game one game, next game you'll look 1463 01:14:25,595 --> 01:14:29,132 like you've never played pinball before in your life. 1464 01:14:29,165 --> 01:14:32,869 * Yeah, yeah 1465 01:14:32,902 --> 01:14:36,906 * Yeah, yeah 1466 01:14:36,940 --> 01:14:40,744 * Yeah, yeah 1467 01:14:40,777 --> 01:14:44,881 * Yeah, yeah 1468 01:14:44,914 --> 01:14:54,958 1469 01:14:54,958 --> 01:15:03,466 1470 01:15:03,499 --> 01:15:05,034 There are a couple of people 1471 01:15:05,068 --> 01:15:07,637 who are really high-quality players, 1472 01:15:07,671 --> 01:15:10,807 very focused when they play, tough to beat. 1473 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,375 You know, when they're having an off day, 1474 01:15:12,408 --> 01:15:14,544 that's the day that you hope you have your on day, 1475 01:15:14,578 --> 01:15:18,615 because they don't--they don't have off days very often. 1476 01:15:18,648 --> 01:15:29,993 1477 01:15:30,026 --> 01:15:31,427 * Hey 1478 01:15:34,698 --> 01:15:35,699 * Hey 1479 01:15:39,302 --> 01:15:40,403 * Hey 1480 01:15:40,436 --> 01:15:41,337 In the final rounds, 1481 01:15:41,370 --> 01:15:42,972 most players will put up huge games, 1482 01:15:43,006 --> 01:15:44,207 just because of the situation. 1483 01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:45,541 They, they rise to the occasion. 1484 01:15:45,575 --> 01:15:46,475 * Hey 1485 01:15:46,509 --> 01:15:47,944 Anything can happen. 1486 01:15:47,977 --> 01:15:51,581 One slip and the ball goes, and that's it. 1487 01:15:51,615 --> 01:15:52,515 * Hey 1488 01:15:52,548 --> 01:15:53,717 * Hey 1489 01:15:53,750 --> 01:15:54,951 * Hey 1490 01:15:54,984 --> 01:15:56,052 * Hey 1491 01:15:56,085 --> 01:15:59,789 1492 01:15:59,823 --> 01:16:00,790 * Hey 1493 01:16:00,824 --> 01:16:04,427 1494 01:16:04,460 --> 01:16:05,394 * Hey 1495 01:16:05,428 --> 01:16:14,203 1496 01:16:14,237 --> 01:16:15,171 * Hey 1497 01:16:22,445 --> 01:16:27,150 Okay, the first-place winner and new World Pinball Champion, 1498 01:16:27,183 --> 01:16:28,785 the incomparable Lyman Sheats! 1499 01:16:53,309 --> 01:16:58,281 It certainly presented an entertainment option 1500 01:16:58,314 --> 01:17:01,050 that was awfully compelling. 1501 01:17:01,084 --> 01:17:05,588 As much as pinball was sort of man against machine, 1502 01:17:05,621 --> 01:17:07,991 your ability to catch and move that ball around 1503 01:17:08,024 --> 01:17:09,759 and hit those targets, 1504 01:17:09,793 --> 01:17:13,596 video offered a completely new dimension. 1505 01:17:19,568 --> 01:17:24,007 In 1980, you could not possibly build enough video games 1506 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,209 to saturate the market, it was impossible. 1507 01:17:26,242 --> 01:17:29,045 Little by little, the interest in playing 1508 01:17:29,078 --> 01:17:30,714 the pinballs went down, 1509 01:17:30,747 --> 01:17:32,782 and of course, the videos came up. 1510 01:17:32,816 --> 01:17:37,386 And all of a sudden, our income doubled and tripled overnight. 1511 01:17:37,420 --> 01:17:39,122 Then Pacman hit. 1512 01:17:39,155 --> 01:17:40,189 I couldn't believe how much money 1513 01:17:40,223 --> 01:17:41,758 they'd take in a weekend. 1514 01:17:41,791 --> 01:17:43,126 It just blew me away, 1515 01:17:43,159 --> 01:17:45,895 and then the pinball sat there almost forlorn-looking. 1516 01:17:45,929 --> 01:17:47,563 You know, like, "Come play me." 1517 01:17:47,596 --> 01:17:50,133 When video came in, it was such a big deal, 1518 01:17:50,166 --> 01:17:52,035 and all the people that had been playing pinball 1519 01:17:52,068 --> 01:17:53,236 got squeezed out. 1520 01:17:53,269 --> 01:17:54,738 What can you do in a video game? 1521 01:17:54,771 --> 01:17:57,140 You can't see anything except what's on the screen, 1522 01:17:57,173 --> 01:17:58,607 but when you're playing a pinball game, 1523 01:17:58,641 --> 01:18:00,744 you're playing actually a piece of equipment 1524 01:18:00,777 --> 01:18:03,479 that you can move around and control. 1525 01:18:03,512 --> 01:18:05,048 Video games you can play a few times, 1526 01:18:05,081 --> 01:18:06,783 learn the patterns, and beat 'em. 1527 01:18:06,816 --> 01:18:07,951 You can beat 'em endlessly. 1528 01:18:07,984 --> 01:18:09,652 You can beat 'em into submission. 1529 01:18:09,685 --> 01:18:11,187 Pinball machines, you can't do that. 1530 01:18:11,220 --> 01:18:13,056 You can only go so far and then it-- 1531 01:18:13,089 --> 01:18:17,526 it just dominates you, so you always lose in the end. 1532 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,395 There's not a closed-end loop here. 1533 01:18:19,428 --> 01:18:20,663 It's a pinball machine. 1534 01:18:20,696 --> 01:18:24,367 There's a beginning, but it's endless. 1535 01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,702 A video game, I got to the end, I finished it. 1536 01:18:26,736 --> 01:18:29,873 It took me, you know, 42 months and 10 hours a day, 1537 01:18:29,906 --> 01:18:33,676 but I finished the game, it is now done. 1538 01:18:33,709 --> 01:18:35,211 A pinball machine, you're never done. 1539 01:18:38,047 --> 01:18:40,283 The real back-breaker came 1540 01:18:40,316 --> 01:18:43,920 when home video finally hit the marketplace, 1541 01:18:43,953 --> 01:18:47,390 when you could go out and buy your Atari console, 1542 01:18:47,423 --> 01:18:49,458 where you could pop in the various games 1543 01:18:49,492 --> 01:18:51,160 and play right on your set. 1544 01:18:51,194 --> 01:18:54,563 Now kids weren't collecting in one spot 1545 01:18:54,597 --> 01:18:56,599 and having that social interaction. 1546 01:18:56,632 --> 01:18:59,268 They were now breaking down into sub-little-groups 1547 01:18:59,302 --> 01:19:01,670 of either myself playing at home, 1548 01:19:01,704 --> 01:19:03,840 or me and my buddy playing at home, 1549 01:19:03,873 --> 01:19:07,944 but it really spelled the end of, certainly, 1550 01:19:07,977 --> 01:19:09,545 the pinball era. 1551 01:19:09,578 --> 01:19:11,514 It was widely believed at the time 1552 01:19:11,547 --> 01:19:13,516 that videogames had usurped pinball 1553 01:19:13,549 --> 01:19:17,720 and there was no longer a need for pinball whatsoever. 1554 01:19:17,753 --> 01:19:19,322 And then one day, people got bored 1555 01:19:19,355 --> 01:19:21,357 with playing all these video games, 1556 01:19:21,390 --> 01:19:24,193 and the industry imploded on itself. 1557 01:19:27,797 --> 01:19:30,533 Pinball was back on the map again. 1558 01:19:30,566 --> 01:19:32,268 After a decade of decline, 1559 01:19:32,301 --> 01:19:35,038 flippers are flapping, bumpers are thumping. 1560 01:19:35,071 --> 01:19:37,473 Pinball is bouncing back. 1561 01:19:37,506 --> 01:19:41,878 The last coming of pinball would have been 1992, '93. 1562 01:19:41,911 --> 01:19:44,814 In those years, we built, oh, somewhere around 1563 01:19:44,848 --> 01:19:48,251 120-, 130,000 pinball machines that year. 1564 01:19:48,284 --> 01:19:58,327 1565 01:19:58,327 --> 01:20:08,437 1566 01:20:10,739 --> 01:20:20,783 1567 01:20:20,783 --> 01:20:30,793 1568 01:20:43,306 --> 01:20:45,408 I've had a steady connection to pinball 1569 01:20:45,441 --> 01:20:48,177 for the last 50 years. 1570 01:20:51,214 --> 01:20:54,817 I had a lot of life tied up in it. 1571 01:20:54,850 --> 01:20:58,487 It was sort of an identity that I, I grew, 1572 01:20:58,521 --> 01:21:01,190 and I didn't separate very well 1573 01:21:01,224 --> 01:21:04,260 the identity of me as the Broadway Arcade 1574 01:21:04,293 --> 01:21:06,195 and me as Steve Epstein. 1575 01:21:10,033 --> 01:21:12,301 Took me quite a few years after we closed the arcade 1576 01:21:12,335 --> 01:21:15,471 to really, uh, I had a pretty big long funk, 1577 01:21:15,504 --> 01:21:16,705 to be honest with you. 1578 01:21:16,739 --> 01:21:18,374 It wasn't a monetary thing that, you know, 1579 01:21:18,407 --> 01:21:20,009 I lost a big income. 1580 01:21:20,043 --> 01:21:24,147 It was really a presence and, uh, just the daily interaction 1581 01:21:24,180 --> 01:21:26,715 of the world that I had at my doorstep, 1582 01:21:26,749 --> 01:21:28,884 that I knew I was never gonna have again. 1583 01:21:38,727 --> 01:21:42,298 It was a life-defining moment 1584 01:21:42,331 --> 01:21:44,600 that, uh, saddens me, 1585 01:21:44,633 --> 01:21:47,937 and still saddens me, actually. 1586 01:21:47,971 --> 01:21:49,705 Big smile, Steve! 1587 01:21:49,738 --> 01:21:54,277 That whole '70s into the '80s into the early '90s 1588 01:21:54,310 --> 01:21:56,845 was a time when, you know, 1589 01:21:56,879 --> 01:21:58,814 the magic of pinball was out there. 1590 01:21:58,847 --> 01:22:00,383 The magic of pinball still exists. 1591 01:22:00,416 --> 01:22:02,685 It just has to reconnect with the people. 1592 01:22:05,921 --> 01:22:09,425 You know, I go out now and I see some of my old friends, 1593 01:22:09,458 --> 01:22:10,559 and I play pinball, 1594 01:22:10,593 --> 01:22:13,429 and that's, that's nice, but, you know, 1595 01:22:13,462 --> 01:22:15,965 having the Broadway Arcade was, uh, was a unique 1596 01:22:15,999 --> 01:22:19,002 and incredible experience that, uh, just never gonna happen 1597 01:22:19,035 --> 01:22:20,803 for me again. 1598 01:22:31,580 --> 01:22:33,116 I think one of the most difficult things 1599 01:22:33,149 --> 01:22:35,951 that anybody might encounter in their lives 1600 01:22:35,985 --> 01:22:38,988 is to be somewhat helpless 1601 01:22:39,022 --> 01:22:41,557 in the inevitability of an outcome. 1602 01:22:41,590 --> 01:22:46,529 So if you look at the, at the downside of it all, um, 1603 01:22:46,562 --> 01:22:50,633 pinball deserves a better fate than what it currently has. 1604 01:22:53,902 --> 01:22:57,306 In truth, it isn't a big part of our culture anymore. 1605 01:22:57,340 --> 01:23:00,009 In truth, 1606 01:23:00,043 --> 01:23:03,946 you might not want to print this, but... 1607 01:23:03,979 --> 01:23:05,681 pinball's slowly going. 1608 01:23:08,217 --> 01:23:12,888 It is an American invention. 1609 01:23:12,921 --> 01:23:16,725 It has been a big part of American pop culture, 1610 01:23:16,759 --> 01:23:21,297 but I'm not sure that... 1611 01:23:21,330 --> 01:23:23,099 anyone will care 1612 01:23:23,132 --> 01:23:24,467 in 10 to 15 years. 1613 01:23:24,500 --> 01:23:27,103 That's my thoughts, but I don't know. 1614 01:23:27,136 --> 01:23:34,710 1615 01:23:34,743 --> 01:23:39,282 Were pinball not to survive, 1616 01:23:39,315 --> 01:23:40,916 the world would continue, 1617 01:23:40,949 --> 01:23:43,419 but a little bit of the fabric of life would be gone. 1618 01:23:43,452 --> 01:23:47,390 1619 01:23:47,423 --> 01:23:49,024 I don't know if we can get to a point 1620 01:23:49,058 --> 01:23:52,928 where there is a precipitous 1621 01:23:52,961 --> 01:23:55,531 need and desire 1622 01:23:55,564 --> 01:23:58,767 by the general population for pinball. 1623 01:23:58,801 --> 01:24:02,838 I think that there is a fleeting sense 1624 01:24:02,871 --> 01:24:06,442 of one's naiveté and innocence 1625 01:24:06,475 --> 01:24:08,744 that games bring out, 1626 01:24:08,777 --> 01:24:11,114 and as we get older, for many of us, 1627 01:24:11,147 --> 01:24:13,249 we step away from doing those things 1628 01:24:13,282 --> 01:24:16,785 that gave us joy when we were younger, 1629 01:24:16,819 --> 01:24:20,289 and I think that that loss of innocence is tough, 1630 01:24:22,958 --> 01:24:25,294 and that is the tragedy of it, 1631 01:24:25,328 --> 01:24:28,697 because there is still something that is just 1632 01:24:28,731 --> 01:24:31,967 marvelously entrancing about pinball, 1633 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:35,238 and everybody should try it, at some point in time. 1634 01:24:35,271 --> 01:24:39,875 1635 01:24:39,908 --> 01:24:43,045 Pinball is a game that 1636 01:24:43,078 --> 01:24:45,214 adds more to life. 1637 01:24:45,248 --> 01:24:47,983 Yes, I think it is definitely more than just a game. 1638 01:24:48,016 --> 01:24:51,454 I-I-I, it is such a unique experience that you cannot 1639 01:24:51,487 --> 01:24:53,556 replicate anywhere else. 1640 01:24:53,589 --> 01:24:55,558 I mean, you have a universe in a, 1641 01:24:55,591 --> 01:24:59,094 in a box under glass, and every time 1642 01:24:59,128 --> 01:25:01,897 you enter that universe, it's different. 1643 01:25:01,930 --> 01:25:03,166 You never know what you're gonna have. 1644 01:25:03,199 --> 01:25:05,100 You never know what you're gonna experience, 1645 01:25:05,134 --> 01:25:09,838 but whatever that experience is, of frustration, anxiety, 1646 01:25:09,872 --> 01:25:12,040 the pleasure of making shots and scoring, 1647 01:25:12,074 --> 01:25:14,810 I mean, it's all part of what life really is, 1648 01:25:14,843 --> 01:25:19,148 and I-I-I equate it much how life is. 1649 01:25:19,182 --> 01:25:21,083 You never know what you're gonna get around the next corner, 1650 01:25:21,116 --> 01:25:23,686 but you, you got to go and be involved in it. 1651 01:25:23,719 --> 01:25:34,997 1652 01:25:35,030 --> 01:25:36,365 I still get calls. 1653 01:25:36,399 --> 01:25:38,801 People still walk by that, you know, they look for it, 1654 01:25:38,834 --> 01:25:40,403 even to this day. 1655 01:25:40,436 --> 01:25:43,906 I mean, you know, it's very strange, very strange. 1656 01:25:46,475 --> 01:25:50,379 It was a great 35 years. 1657 01:25:50,413 --> 01:26:04,693 1658 01:26:06,829 --> 01:26:14,470 1659 01:26:14,503 --> 01:26:15,571 * Pinball 1660 01:26:15,604 --> 01:26:22,778 1661 01:26:22,811 --> 01:26:24,012 * Pinball 1662 01:26:24,046 --> 01:26:31,186 1663 01:26:31,220 --> 01:26:32,455 * Pinball 1664 01:26:32,488 --> 01:26:39,795 1665 01:26:39,828 --> 01:26:40,729 * Pinball 1666 01:26:40,763 --> 01:26:48,237 1667 01:26:48,271 --> 01:26:49,405 * Pinball 1668 01:26:49,438 --> 01:26:59,482 1669 01:26:59,482 --> 01:27:05,153 1670 01:27:05,187 --> 01:27:06,322 * Pinball 1671 01:27:08,857 --> 01:27:18,901 1672 01:27:18,901 --> 01:27:28,911 125426

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