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Looking back on my boyhood
and adolescence in South Texas,
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I spent an incredible
amount of time
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in gas stations, honky-tonks,
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and other off-the-beaten-path
places trying to appear cool
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while obsessively following
the descent of a steel ball
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down the playing surface
of a garishly-lit machine,
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a pinball machine.
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I'd come in with my grandfather
standing on pop crates
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to play the pinball machines.
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I think I was
about eight years old.
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I used to hang out
at the corner store
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and my parents
were always lookin' for me.
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I would go away
with my grandparents
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every summer and they'd say,
"Hey, you're in the arcade.
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Here's a roll of quarters,
go have fun."
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All these back-lot mom
and pa stores and everything
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had, uh, one or two
pinball machines there.
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Apartment houses would have 'em
in the laundry rooms.
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If you had a gas station
where they weren't doin'
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car repair anymore,
they'd take the service bays
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and fill 'em
with pinball machines.
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Playing at our local
bowling alley was the place
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where parents told you
not to go.
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I guess it was the kind of age
when you don't want to do things
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with your parents.
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My parents used to think
I was going to church
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Sunday mornings and I'd
be at the local hangout
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playing pinballs.
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I also remember my father
dragging me out by my ear
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saying that I spent
too much money.
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I used to sneak down there
without telling anybody
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and on my own,
and practice like crazy.
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There was probably
a crowd hangin' around
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a pinball machine
and we used to have to wait
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to play and line up your coin.
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And you'd know which one
was your coin.
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I started playing
at, like, the local café.
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Took my books to study there.
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It was a great break
from studying.
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Sometimes it replaced studying.
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I used to steal pop bottles
from the back of the gas station
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and trade 'em in
for three cents,
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and when I had enough dimes
to go play pinball
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I would wander all over town
just putting dimes
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in pinball machines.
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On a Saturday afternoon
I'd run it up
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to the highest amount
that you could win,
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which was about 15 games.
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I would sell 'em for 50 cents.
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Sell 'em 12 games.
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Tell 'em to leave me three.
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They'd lose 'em
in about 30 minutes.
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They'd leave me three.
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I'd run it back up to 15 again,
sell 'em again.
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That's how we'd spend
a Saturday afternoon.
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If you say pinball,
people are like, "What?"
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Or, "What's that?"
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I mean,
there are many kids today
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that--that don't know
what a pinball machine is.
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If you were growing up
in the '60s, '70s, and '80s,
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you could go to the movies,
you could listen to the radio
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and music,
and you could play pinball.
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And now here we are
twenty years later,
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and if you wanted to re-live
a song that you remember
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from your youth,
you can put it on your iPod.
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If you remember a movie that you
particularly liked as a kid,
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you can get the DVD of it,
but when it comes to pinball,
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since it only exists
in the real world
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and can't
be digitally duplicated,
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there is no place
to play pinball,
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and yet in everybody's mind
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they remember those games
from their youth,
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and they come in here
and they see something
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that they haven't seen
in 25 years,
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something that was a major part
of their youth.
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You know, "The first time
I kissed a girl,
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I was playing this machine."
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And they see that
and they just get this look
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on their face of pure nostalgia.
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Kids today don't really
understand pinball.
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They come in looking for the
Dance Dance Revolution machine
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or the fighting video game
or the really fast driving game,
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and all they see
are these pokey,
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slow, old pinball machines
that just go,
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"Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing,"
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and they don't understand it.
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You look around here,
all you see is old farts.
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You don't see the kids
that were playing pinball
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when I was growin' up.
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I mean, the kids today
are just--
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you know, that between
the computer games
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and the home games and the--
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and the Nintendos
and the Sega systems
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and Gameboys and--
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they just won't play pinball.
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I can remember
when I was growing up,
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we used to eat
all our meals at home,
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and we used to go out
for entertainment.
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We'd go to the movies.
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We'd go bowling.
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We'd go outside the house
to have our entertainment,
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and now everybody eats out.
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Everybody always goes
to restaurants.
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They don't cook
at home very much,
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but they get all
their entertainment at home
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through their big screen
theater room
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or their game room
that they've got
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in the basement.
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Public places of amusement
have been falling by the wayside
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in America like crazy.
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You can't find
a pinball machine.
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I mean, most arcades
there's no pinball machine.
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There's no more arcades
in malls in most cases.
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Even bars.
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I mean, all the bars today
have a Megatouch,
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the jukebox, and a pool table,
but no more pinballs.
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I mean, very, very,
very, very few.
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Pinball is finished in France.
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In England it's finished
long times ago.
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Right?
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In Italy you can find
one pinball.
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In Germany, no one pinball.
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In Holland, no pinball.
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Even in Belgium,
it was a pinball paradise.
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No pinball.
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It's finished.
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You know,
they said pinball was dead.
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It's not.
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I was very surprised
that other people
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were like this.
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I thought we were just crazy.
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It starts with one.
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Buy another one.
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And then another one.
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Then, like, four.
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And I was outgrowing
the family room.
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I'd buy 20 here, 30 here.
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And then your wife
starts to say,
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"Uh, what's goin' on here?"
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We got enough, no.
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-Yes.
-No.
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Sixty games.
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-Three hundred fifty or so.
-Four hundred.
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I'm close to 600.
Sixteen hundred.
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It was a very rapid decline
into obsession, I think.
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Come on this way.
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Show you some more.
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We have about 150 in here.
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Once you get the lure
of the silver ball in you,
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it's like an addiction
and you just can't stop,
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and I just kept, you know--
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it's like you got
to have 'em all
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'cause they're all just
beautiful pieces of art.
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You remember buying every one,
where you got it from.
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One time, when my addiction
was really bad,
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I bought a Barb Wire on eBay.
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I thought it was a great deal.
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I thought,
"Gee, what am I doin'?
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This is crazy to drive 24 hours
to go get a pinball machine,"
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and just as I'm thinkin'
maybe I'm not gonna do this,
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you know, Pinball Wizard
comes on the radio
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and I thought,
"Nope, I'm goin'."
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You know, and it was,
like, my longest haul.
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It was like,
you know, 26 hours later
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I'm finally home, exhausted.
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Ended up comin' home
with three machines.
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They're up on this upper deck.
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This is the first little deck
that I built to get some room.
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Pinball machines
seem to be alive.
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They--they really don't seem
to be machines.
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When you're playing,
they're almost
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like they're alive
and the way they talk to you,
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you find yourself talkin' to it.
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Extra ball!
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Sometimes I just come in
to look at them.
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You don't even
have to play them.
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You just come in
and just admire them.
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It's just a tribute
to man's creativity.
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I'll tell ya.
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This was, like, a little
guest bedroom but it's...
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I had to squeeze
more pins in here.
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My theme though,
I kinda have always dreamed
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it might happen, but I really
want to do the passion.
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Uh, you know, people say,
"You're crazy," but see,
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I have a bac--
I was a youth pastor
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and, uh, so I st--I--
I love the Lord
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and I just can picture
the passion play
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in a pinball machine.
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* Shine the light
down on me
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* Shine the light
for all to see
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Hallelujah, the ball is saved!
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* Shine the light
down on me
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* Shine the light
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All my life, it was pinball.
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This is very good game.
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Well, when I am
with the pinball
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I look the pinball
and I think I am in love.
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It's my life,
it's better to own--
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It's better to collect pinball
than to take cocaine.
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Yes?
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Like, some people
are to spend the money
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to drink or to eat.
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I don't like to eat.
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I like pinball.
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Pinball and girls,
but girls is finished.
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I will not sell one.
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I like them all,
but is like my children.
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I like some of my children
better than the other.
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Of course.
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We're in the area that
actually enjoyed pinball,
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and we all
kind of sort of hooked up
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and the heart of the group
plays every Thursday
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and they don't miss.
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Puts gas in my truck.
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I mean, look at these guys.
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Take a look at these people.
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That's all they care about,
is pinball.
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I got girls,
I got dates.
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I go to concerts.
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You meet all these people
that--that are into it
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and they'll all come over
and you'll have a--
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a big party every week.
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Though Steve's
still kind of a center.
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He's kind of like the--
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He's a--he's the leader.
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If it wasn't for Steve--
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1972, my dad bought one
for my room,
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and I was like, "I'll, you know,
do my homework forever
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if I have a pinball machine."
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Of course that probably
didn't work out.
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From there on it just
got pretty wicked, you know?
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Now I've had--I've had 70.
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I think I'm down
around 50 now, but I've got them
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in every room in my house.
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We have a New York Jets
pinball machine
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and in here we have Maverick,
which is a western-themed,
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Mel Gibson.
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Okay, now we're in another room
of this crazy house.
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We're in the pinball dungeon.
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Which actually is being sold
because I need to make room.
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In here we have some more
pinball machines to try.
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We call this our "pirate shed"
because we have a bar
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in the back
that's pirate-themed.
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I never knew you could own
your own pinball machine.
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I mean,
soon as I found out that
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then that's when
my whole life changed.
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I mean, you've seen my bedroom.
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I'd--at times
I have 14 pinball machines.
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The things I like,
I'm very obsessive,
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so--and I am a perfectionist.
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Uh, these are the barrels
from "Jaws."
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So, if I collect something,
whether it be pinball machines,
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"Jaws" memorabilia,
I think I gotta have it all.
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Like it says, "I want to rock
and roll all night
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and party every day."
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It was during the depths
of the depression,
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in the late '20s, early '30s
where the coin-operated
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amusement game industry
kind of got birthed.
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Out of that came pin games.
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It literally was a name
because there were various pins
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that were hammered into a wood
surface, using a little ball,
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and here's the trap.
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The games wound up evolving,
if you will, in the 1930s.
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Companies just mushroomed
out of nowhere,
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most of them located in Chicago.
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In the end of the 1930s,
beginning of the 1940s
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there is an over proliferation
of games literally everywhere
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and there becomes an outcry.
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"Children spending
their lunch money."
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"It's everywhere."
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"We have to outlaw it."
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"We have to regulate it."
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"We can't control it."
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In Chicago,
scores of confiscated
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pinball machines
get a police escort
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to their journey's end.
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They've had this coming
for a long time.
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It was seen
as a game of gambling
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and there was
a group of machines created
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that were pay-out machines,
so there was some relevance
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to that, but by and large,
the majority of product
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that was out there
was for amusement only.
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In the case of New York City,
Chicago, and Los Angeles
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being three major metropolitan
areas as well as other areas
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around the United States,
pinball was banned.
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It was this one.
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Humpty Dumpty.
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This was the first pinball
with flipper.
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I've seen so many changes
in pin games,
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but when those six flippers
came out on Humpty Dumpty,
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I said, "I got to do something
like that," but me?
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I was always ta--
taught never to put
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too much money into a game.
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I ain't about puttin'
those six flippers on my game.
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So, I put two of 'em
and I put 'em
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at the bottom of the game
and that's somewhat
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approximately
with everyone ever since
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and that makes me feel very,
very, very good.
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When we put flippers on a game
you got a tremendous amount
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of skill into the game.
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Before that it was nothing
but chance.
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You were lucky.
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You pushed the game,
kicked the game in order
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to get the ball to go where
you wanted it to go,
336
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but when the flippers
were there, now you get
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a certain amount of skill.
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Gottlieb ruled
in the '50s and '60s.
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They were comin' out
with new machines, like,
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every three weeks.
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Generally speaking,
the pinball arcade,
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which then, turned into
the video game arcade
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was the sort of logical
descendant of the coffee bar.
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It's very hard to remember this,
but in the '60s,
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coffee was considered
the major social threat.
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Because they were thought
of as places
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where kids got hyped up
and then they acted out
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in some sort of manic way.
353
00:19:03,876 --> 00:19:05,845
Boys were thought to be flirting
with waitresses,
354
00:19:05,878 --> 00:19:07,614
and waitresses
sort of hopped up on coffee
355
00:19:07,647 --> 00:19:09,716
were jumping on the tables
and dancing.
356
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357
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Before the city council
in April of 1976,
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I was enlisted,
if you will,
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00:19:28,435 --> 00:19:31,271
by the New York State
Association to testify.
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00:19:31,304 --> 00:19:32,505
Order.
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00:19:32,539 --> 00:19:35,408
Offered whatever
expert testimony I could,
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as well as a demonstration
of pinball being a game of skill
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as opposed to a game of chance.
364
00:19:42,181 --> 00:19:44,551
365
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Suddenly you could find
pinball machines legally.
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367
00:19:58,064 --> 00:20:04,103
368
00:20:04,136 --> 00:20:05,772
We were rock and roll
in the '70s.
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Business was booming.
370
00:20:06,906 --> 00:20:08,375
Profit margins were huge.
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Unbelievable.
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00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:10,810
Demand was sky-high.
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Distributors were ordering
it by the truckload.
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00:20:13,746 --> 00:20:15,482
When we started
solid-state electronics
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00:20:15,515 --> 00:20:17,550
in pinball machines,
we were on the leading edge
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00:20:17,584 --> 00:20:18,951
of technology.
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00:20:18,985 --> 00:20:22,021
I mean, it was an incredible
cross-section at that time
378
00:20:22,054 --> 00:20:24,257
of people playing pinball.
379
00:20:24,291 --> 00:20:27,159
Diana Ross, Paul Simon,
Lou Reed, Matthew Broderick,
380
00:20:27,193 --> 00:20:29,462
studio musicians,
politicians comin' in.
381
00:20:29,496 --> 00:20:31,998
Limo pulls up and these four,
crazy looking guys come out
382
00:20:32,031 --> 00:20:33,400
and, you know, it's Kiss.
383
00:20:33,433 --> 00:20:35,268
Very nice people
that come in here.
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00:20:35,302 --> 00:20:37,804
Matter of fact, you'll find
business people come in here.
385
00:20:37,837 --> 00:20:39,806
You'll find musicians
from the shows,
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00:20:39,839 --> 00:20:42,008
uh, managers
from the different restaurants,
387
00:20:42,041 --> 00:20:43,910
and the regular Broadway crowd.
388
00:20:43,943 --> 00:20:46,679
The thing I'm the most proud
of is the fact that we created
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00:20:46,713 --> 00:20:48,481
this environment
where you would have
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00:20:48,515 --> 00:20:51,551
different social stratas
all coming in,
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standing next to each other,
playing and interacting
392
00:20:53,986 --> 00:20:57,324
with each other and walking out
and going their separate ways,
393
00:20:57,357 --> 00:20:59,759
never to really meet
anywhere else,
394
00:20:59,792 --> 00:21:02,562
and, you know, but in the arcade
this was sort of an environment
395
00:21:02,595 --> 00:21:06,699
that allowed a diverse amount
of different people to come.
396
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Kids would always want
someplace to go,
397
00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:13,606
something to do,
and at that point in time
398
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,376
there wasn't a lot of options
for that teenager,
399
00:21:16,409 --> 00:21:19,512
whether it was just pre-getting
their driver's license,
400
00:21:19,546 --> 00:21:22,515
so, you know, their--
their--the--their lifestyle
401
00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:24,083
had to be within
walking distance
402
00:21:24,116 --> 00:21:26,453
or a bicycle ride
or something,
403
00:21:26,486 --> 00:21:27,787
and I think
that's what gave growth
404
00:21:27,820 --> 00:21:29,422
to the arcade business.
405
00:21:29,456 --> 00:21:33,893
406
00:21:33,926 --> 00:21:38,230
Arcades had this air
of "certainly not approved
407
00:21:38,264 --> 00:21:39,699
by your parents."
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00:21:39,732 --> 00:21:41,401
"Naughty," or whatever,
'cause they could in there
409
00:21:41,434 --> 00:21:42,635
and they could smoke.
410
00:21:42,669 --> 00:21:44,737
411
00:21:44,771 --> 00:21:47,073
It was usually dark.
412
00:21:47,106 --> 00:21:48,875
You could kind of do
what you wanted to do,
413
00:21:48,908 --> 00:21:51,478
and that was a very male-crowd.
414
00:21:51,511 --> 00:21:54,313
It was all
young males,
415
00:21:54,347 --> 00:21:57,016
fourteen to
twenty five.
416
00:21:57,049 --> 00:22:00,687
It wasn't like going
to a Walt Disney movie
417
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,822
where the whole family
could go along
418
00:22:02,855 --> 00:22:04,724
and feel happy about it.
419
00:22:04,757 --> 00:22:06,659
It was more like hanging
out with your friends
420
00:22:06,693 --> 00:22:11,063
and doing bad things.
421
00:22:11,097 --> 00:22:14,401
I think at that time
it was considered rebellious.
422
00:22:14,434 --> 00:22:17,870
I think this was a bit
of a Fonz-type activity,
423
00:22:17,904 --> 00:22:21,273
a sort of downward-mobility,
wasting time,
424
00:22:21,307 --> 00:22:24,243
developing highly-refined skills
in an area that was going
425
00:22:24,276 --> 00:22:27,346
to be relatively useless
in adult life.
426
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:33,953
Half of all our production
went over into Western Europe.
427
00:22:33,986 --> 00:22:35,555
Container loads of games.
428
00:22:41,293 --> 00:22:44,397
I was astounded to find out
that the first runs of games,
429
00:22:44,431 --> 00:22:45,798
even in the heyday,
went to Europe
430
00:22:45,832 --> 00:22:47,834
instead of the United States.
431
00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:49,602
The market was bigger in Europe.
432
00:22:49,636 --> 00:22:51,671
And at that time I think
the pinball machine
433
00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:54,106
was highly Americanized
and pe--and then people
434
00:22:54,140 --> 00:22:55,274
were proud of that.
435
00:22:55,307 --> 00:22:58,611
Proud to have,
in a French bistro in Paris,
436
00:22:58,645 --> 00:23:00,780
an American machine.
437
00:23:03,282 --> 00:23:06,252
Everything came from
the United States at that time,
438
00:23:06,285 --> 00:23:11,123
glowing success,
because people's mentalities...
439
00:23:11,157 --> 00:23:14,927
United State
is the paradise of the world.
440
00:23:14,961 --> 00:23:18,498
And everybody understood
the language of pinball.
441
00:23:19,466 --> 00:23:21,868
Game over, tilt,
442
00:23:21,901 --> 00:23:24,904
special targets,
you know.
443
00:23:33,012 --> 00:23:43,890
444
00:23:43,923 --> 00:23:48,127
What is it that makes you stop
and play one machine?
445
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,496
What makes you think,
446
00:23:49,529 --> 00:23:52,164
"Oh, I'm gonna put my money
in this one?"
447
00:23:52,198 --> 00:23:55,367
And so you come up
with, uh, rock and roll.
448
00:23:55,401 --> 00:23:57,036
You come up with sex.
449
00:23:57,069 --> 00:23:59,572
You come up with the--the--
all the things
450
00:23:59,606 --> 00:24:02,509
that young teenage boys
wanted to be.
451
00:24:02,542 --> 00:24:03,976
I mean, you can look at the art.
452
00:24:04,010 --> 00:24:05,144
It's definitely something
453
00:24:05,177 --> 00:24:07,680
that's pitched
towards young males.
454
00:24:07,714 --> 00:24:11,183
There's not really a lot of
female-friendly images on these.
455
00:24:11,217 --> 00:24:19,125
456
00:24:19,158 --> 00:24:22,762
Part of the adolescent
male fantasy is, guns,
457
00:24:22,795 --> 00:24:27,700
women with large breasts,
magic spells, any violent,
458
00:24:27,734 --> 00:24:30,970
misogynist thing you want
is there on pinball.
459
00:24:31,003 --> 00:24:35,942
A lot of these machines
have um,love scenes on them.
460
00:24:35,975 --> 00:24:38,210
Uh, you don't suppose
there's any connection there?
461
00:24:40,212 --> 00:24:41,247
I'm not in
the supposing business.
462
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,282
What do you think?
463
00:24:43,315 --> 00:24:45,217
Well, I don't know
if you've ever followed
464
00:24:45,251 --> 00:24:48,020
the motions of people's bodies
while they're playing,
465
00:24:48,054 --> 00:24:50,456
but you might be able
to draw a connection there.
466
00:24:50,489 --> 00:24:52,992
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah!
467
00:24:53,025 --> 00:24:55,461
You have those
centerfold images
468
00:24:55,494 --> 00:24:58,164
of young, rather
buxom ladies,
469
00:24:58,197 --> 00:25:02,034
usually blonde, staring out
of the machine at you
470
00:25:02,068 --> 00:25:04,136
to inspire you.
471
00:25:04,170 --> 00:25:05,404
It's a sexual release.
472
00:25:05,437 --> 00:25:06,906
I really don't understand
why though.
473
00:25:06,939 --> 00:25:07,840
But you believe it is?
474
00:25:07,874 --> 00:25:08,575
Oh, I know it is.
475
00:25:08,608 --> 00:25:09,809
No question about it.
476
00:25:09,842 --> 00:25:12,845
Sexually frustrated people
play pinball a lot.
477
00:25:12,879 --> 00:25:16,415
And--and that sort of captured
in that noise that's made
478
00:25:16,448 --> 00:25:17,850
when you win a free game.
479
00:25:17,884 --> 00:25:19,285
You know,
there's that clunk noise,
480
00:25:20,419 --> 00:25:21,854
which is supposed
to alert everybody
481
00:25:21,888 --> 00:25:23,990
in the environment
that you are a--
482
00:25:24,023 --> 00:25:27,359
you know, you are the man,
and if you can do it repeatedly
483
00:25:27,393 --> 00:25:29,996
or get clunk-clunk, you know,
everybody's like--
484
00:25:30,029 --> 00:25:32,799
notices that and they--
even if they don't show it,
485
00:25:32,832 --> 00:25:35,067
their admiration
for you increases.
486
00:25:38,137 --> 00:25:40,472
A guy has a hot ball
and it's just flyin',
487
00:25:40,506 --> 00:25:42,742
and, you know, you're gettin'
ready to become ruler
488
00:25:42,775 --> 00:25:44,611
of the universe or somethin'.
489
00:25:44,644 --> 00:25:46,278
You might have been playin'
by yourself
490
00:25:46,312 --> 00:25:47,513
and not too many people
watchin',
491
00:25:47,546 --> 00:25:49,448
but when they start hearin'
those sounds,
492
00:25:49,481 --> 00:25:51,383
then all of a sudden
you'll see people gather around
493
00:25:51,417 --> 00:25:55,354
to see that great ending
of that, you know, ball.
494
00:25:56,823 --> 00:25:58,457
I knew you'd come back.
495
00:26:05,965 --> 00:26:16,008
496
00:26:16,008 --> 00:26:21,480
497
00:26:25,117 --> 00:26:27,253
It's number 174 with a circle.
498
00:26:27,286 --> 00:26:31,590
It says
"Williams Perky, 10-24-56."
499
00:26:31,624 --> 00:26:34,661
Well, it's been in my blood
since I was 12 and I'm 59,
500
00:26:34,694 --> 00:26:38,631
so pretty major.
501
00:26:38,665 --> 00:26:40,700
Should have known right away
that I was gonna be a collector
502
00:26:40,733 --> 00:26:43,435
and I didn't start collecting
until I bought this house
503
00:26:43,469 --> 00:26:46,873
in 1976, and the first game
in my collection
504
00:26:46,906 --> 00:26:48,741
is my favorite game of all time,
505
00:26:48,775 --> 00:26:51,277
Gottlieb Slick Chick,
April of '63.
506
00:26:51,310 --> 00:26:53,179
It's in my bedroom up right now.
507
00:26:53,212 --> 00:26:54,781
It's been up
since I started my collection
508
00:26:54,814 --> 00:26:56,883
and it's never gone down.
509
00:26:58,751 --> 00:27:03,022
I have a--a--kind of my--
what I call my bible.
510
00:27:03,055 --> 00:27:04,891
Whenever I go to shows,
and I've been doing that
511
00:27:04,924 --> 00:27:07,927
for a long time, I always
copy down serial numbers.
512
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:12,131
And I have a binder
that I've hand-typed,
513
00:27:12,164 --> 00:27:14,000
since I don't do computers yet.
514
00:27:14,033 --> 00:27:16,135
To me, I think
it would be interesting,
515
00:27:16,168 --> 00:27:20,072
I have 300 games,
where they were at one time.
516
00:27:20,106 --> 00:27:22,675
Egg Head,
Flipper Clown, Tropic Isle,
517
00:27:22,709 --> 00:27:24,543
Fashion Show, Cover Girl.
518
00:27:24,576 --> 00:27:25,845
Were they in Joe's Bar
and Grille
519
00:27:25,878 --> 00:27:29,215
or somewhere down the street,
or at a show?
520
00:27:29,248 --> 00:27:31,984
Uh, I have a column
for the date, the game number,
521
00:27:32,018 --> 00:27:34,721
the players, notes.
522
00:27:34,754 --> 00:27:35,922
It's because ten years from now
523
00:27:35,955 --> 00:27:37,256
I think people
would like to know
524
00:27:37,289 --> 00:27:39,859
where their Twilight Zone
was or their Addams Family
525
00:27:39,892 --> 00:27:42,228
or whatever game
it happens to be.
526
00:27:43,095 --> 00:27:45,932
It's interesting to me.
527
00:27:45,965 --> 00:27:49,335
528
00:27:49,368 --> 00:27:52,138
I worked in the bowling industry
for a lot of years
529
00:27:52,171 --> 00:27:55,041
and the last bowling alley
I worked at closed down
530
00:27:55,074 --> 00:27:57,343
twelve years ago,
and so I get up
531
00:27:57,376 --> 00:27:59,311
and work on my collection
every day.
532
00:27:59,345 --> 00:28:04,383
533
00:28:04,416 --> 00:28:06,318
I'm in it
for the history of it too.
534
00:28:06,352 --> 00:28:07,887
That's why I collect flyers.
535
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,657
That's why I collect
what they call press photos.
536
00:28:11,690 --> 00:28:12,358
Spiderman.
537
00:28:12,391 --> 00:28:13,525
There's Circus.
538
00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:14,927
They're chronological.
539
00:28:14,961 --> 00:28:18,230
That's--that's all my--up here,
all my photo albums.
540
00:28:18,264 --> 00:28:22,101
I have about 6,000
pinball negatives.
541
00:28:22,134 --> 00:28:24,837
This is Bally parts catalogues,
and then this over here
542
00:28:24,871 --> 00:28:26,773
is schematics.
543
00:28:26,806 --> 00:28:28,975
There's a lot of games
are missin' score cards.
544
00:28:29,008 --> 00:28:31,143
How they get lost
over the years
545
00:28:31,177 --> 00:28:33,679
it's hard to believe,
but they do.
546
00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:38,017
I have 11 comic book boxes
full of score cards.
547
00:28:38,050 --> 00:28:41,353
In the front closet,
there's lots of binders
548
00:28:41,387 --> 00:28:44,723
in there also.
549
00:28:44,757 --> 00:28:47,426
I was blessed
with an unbelievable memory.
550
00:28:47,459 --> 00:28:52,264
I mean, records,
pinballs... jokes.
551
00:28:55,101 --> 00:28:57,269
Did you hear
about the Polish carpoolers?
552
00:28:58,737 --> 00:29:00,840
They all met at work.
553
00:29:03,776 --> 00:29:06,112
Isn't that good?
554
00:29:06,145 --> 00:29:09,315
This front
bedroom
555
00:29:09,348 --> 00:29:14,253
has 26 woodrail
pinball bodies,
556
00:29:15,922 --> 00:29:17,957
all stacked,
twenty four and two,
557
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:21,193
and approximately 250
backglasses.
558
00:29:21,227 --> 00:29:23,796
Isn't that awesome?
559
00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:25,697
I really don't think
about what it's worth
560
00:29:25,731 --> 00:29:26,933
'cause I really don't want
to sell it.
561
00:29:26,966 --> 00:29:28,367
I want to play 'em.
562
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,536
I want 'em to play like they
did when the--
563
00:29:30,569 --> 00:29:33,072
when they were in the--
comin' out of the factory.
564
00:29:33,105 --> 00:29:36,408
That's why I spend the 40 hours
and do the job right.
565
00:29:38,945 --> 00:29:41,247
Rebuild the bumpers,
rebuild the pop bumpers,
566
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,616
and rebuild the slingshots,
and rebuild the flippers.
567
00:29:44,650 --> 00:29:47,719
A lot of work, and when you're
done and you turn it on
568
00:29:47,753 --> 00:29:50,722
and it doesn't blow up you fe--
you feel real good.
569
00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:55,995
I sort my parts
out of the parts catalogue
570
00:29:56,028 --> 00:29:59,431
by part number.
571
00:29:59,465 --> 00:30:02,501
You never know when somebody's
gonna need somethin'.
572
00:30:02,534 --> 00:30:03,870
I'm gonna need more room.
573
00:30:05,872 --> 00:30:06,839
I'm a people person.
574
00:30:06,873 --> 00:30:08,140
I like people.
575
00:30:08,174 --> 00:30:10,977
When I worked,
it--it--it really wasn't work.
576
00:30:11,010 --> 00:30:12,711
I looked forward to seeing
these people on Monday
577
00:30:12,744 --> 00:30:14,646
and these people on Tuesday
and these people on Wednesday,
578
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,383
and I have, uh, a--
uh, I have--
579
00:30:17,416 --> 00:30:18,617
I never had
any brothers or sisters.
580
00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:22,922
I was an only child,
and, uh, my mom and my real dad
581
00:30:22,955 --> 00:30:25,324
got married and divorced twice.
582
00:30:25,357 --> 00:30:26,725
And they say
it's kind of hereditary
583
00:30:26,758 --> 00:30:28,861
but my--my real dad
smoked and drank
584
00:30:28,895 --> 00:30:31,797
and he was an alcoholic
and I never did drank or smoked,
585
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:36,735
so bein' an individualist
is...always been proud of.
586
00:30:36,768 --> 00:30:38,804
I can--I--I'll--
I get high on life,
587
00:30:38,837 --> 00:30:41,807
not on anything artificial.
588
00:30:43,943 --> 00:30:46,478
Only 100,000 away
from a game.
589
00:30:46,512 --> 00:30:47,880
Oh, I didn't get it.
590
00:30:47,914 --> 00:30:51,783
Four-eight would--
I was 10,000 away from a game.
591
00:30:51,817 --> 00:30:54,220
The rush
of being able to play
592
00:30:54,253 --> 00:30:56,555
any game you have
at any given time,
593
00:30:56,588 --> 00:30:59,425
if I just push the button,
is you can't explain it
594
00:30:59,458 --> 00:31:00,559
to people, you know?
595
00:31:00,592 --> 00:31:02,028
It's something you like
and it's fun
596
00:31:02,061 --> 00:31:06,132
and it's...enjoyable.
597
00:31:06,165 --> 00:31:08,434
I don't know why some people
have the bug
598
00:31:08,467 --> 00:31:10,869
and some people don't,
but I'm one of the ones
599
00:31:10,903 --> 00:31:14,340
with the bug.
600
00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:17,243
I wake up
and do it every single day.
601
00:31:17,276 --> 00:31:19,245
602
00:31:19,278 --> 00:31:21,147
Part of my life.
603
00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:24,083
Like an extension of my hand
or something, I guess.
604
00:31:24,116 --> 00:31:28,287
605
00:31:34,426 --> 00:31:36,828
There's a joke that we have
in the business,
606
00:31:36,862 --> 00:31:39,798
which is "how hard can this be?"
607
00:31:39,831 --> 00:31:41,533
Uh, people look in the box,
they see it.
608
00:31:41,567 --> 00:31:43,035
They'll be in a bar
or they'll be with their friend.
609
00:31:43,069 --> 00:31:44,636
They'll look inside and say,
"Oh, how hard could it be
610
00:31:44,670 --> 00:31:46,605
to build a pinball machine?"
611
00:31:46,638 --> 00:31:48,975
Uh, and we like to just smile.
612
00:31:49,008 --> 00:31:50,209
We just smile.
613
00:31:50,242 --> 00:31:53,612
614
00:31:53,645 --> 00:31:56,415
Chicago is the pinball capital
of the world.
615
00:31:56,448 --> 00:32:02,154
616
00:32:02,188 --> 00:32:03,222
We make it here
'cause the people
617
00:32:03,255 --> 00:32:04,556
who understand
how to make it are here,
618
00:32:04,590 --> 00:32:06,792
the tooling is here,
we live here.
619
00:32:06,825 --> 00:32:09,795
We need to have
that fast turnaround.
620
00:32:09,828 --> 00:32:11,197
It's all in Chicago.
621
00:32:11,230 --> 00:32:16,835
622
00:32:16,868 --> 00:32:18,937
I tell people that I've been
in the pinball business
623
00:32:18,971 --> 00:32:23,109
for, um, 61 years
because I'm 61 years old.
624
00:32:23,142 --> 00:32:25,277
This is where
my father started me.
625
00:32:25,311 --> 00:32:29,081
To understand that even today,
with solid-state electronics,
626
00:32:29,115 --> 00:32:31,417
we have 3,500 pieces
in a pinball machine,
627
00:32:31,450 --> 00:32:33,619
over half a mile of wire.
628
00:32:33,652 --> 00:32:35,821
There's a lot that goes
into makin' one.
629
00:32:35,854 --> 00:32:37,956
There's more labor
in a pinball machine,
630
00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:39,858
more man hours
than in a Ford Taurus,
631
00:32:39,891 --> 00:32:41,927
which is built
not far from here.
632
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:51,237
633
00:32:51,270 --> 00:32:52,704
It's a progressive line.
634
00:32:52,738 --> 00:32:56,275
Each person does a little part
of it and passes it along.
635
00:32:56,308 --> 00:32:58,744
Much like automobiles
but by hand.
636
00:32:58,777 --> 00:33:08,887
637
00:33:08,887 --> 00:33:18,730
638
00:33:18,764 --> 00:33:21,400
The volume of the game business
as a whole, coin-op business,
639
00:33:21,433 --> 00:33:23,269
is significantly down
from what it was.
640
00:33:23,302 --> 00:33:25,904
641
00:33:25,937 --> 00:33:29,708
'92,'93, there were 100,000
pinball machines a year made
642
00:33:29,741 --> 00:33:33,545
and there were 4 or 5
different companies or brands.
643
00:33:33,579 --> 00:33:35,881
Today we're the only company
making pinball machines
644
00:33:35,914 --> 00:33:38,450
and we like to, well, yo--
strive to have 10 percent
645
00:33:38,484 --> 00:33:40,319
of what that market once was,
and then we'd have
646
00:33:40,352 --> 00:33:41,453
a nice, small business.
647
00:33:46,292 --> 00:33:50,796
If you drive a 1978
Super Beetle convertible,
648
00:33:50,829 --> 00:33:52,431
it's very cool,
but that's nostalgic
649
00:33:52,464 --> 00:33:53,799
and it's not a great car.
650
00:33:53,832 --> 00:33:56,468
If you have a new Beetle
convertible, that's retro.
651
00:33:56,502 --> 00:33:58,537
It's a modern car
that has some of the--
652
00:33:58,570 --> 00:34:00,839
some of the look and feel
or coolness of it
653
00:34:00,872 --> 00:34:02,274
and it--it's retro.
654
00:34:02,308 --> 00:34:06,112
Um, we don't make games
from the '60s.
655
00:34:06,145 --> 00:34:09,047
We make games of today
that are retro.
656
00:34:12,451 --> 00:34:15,154
We no longer talk about being
the last pinball manufacturer
657
00:34:15,187 --> 00:34:16,988
'cause that sounds
like we're gonna get out.
658
00:34:17,022 --> 00:34:18,590
We're the only pinball
manufacturer
659
00:34:18,624 --> 00:34:20,992
and we intend to remain
in the pinball business.
660
00:34:21,026 --> 00:34:27,533
661
00:34:27,566 --> 00:34:30,669
Every game designer
who's worth anything
662
00:34:30,702 --> 00:34:33,305
will tell you that what you're
really trying to build
663
00:34:33,339 --> 00:34:34,673
is a carnival game.
664
00:34:34,706 --> 00:34:37,409
You're trying to build something
that's easy to learn,
665
00:34:37,443 --> 00:34:40,179
easy to play, and hard to beat.
666
00:34:40,212 --> 00:34:43,315
You want to create hooks
in a game, to hook them in,
667
00:34:43,349 --> 00:34:45,384
to interest them,
to keep them interested.
668
00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:48,454
Destroy the saucer!
669
00:34:48,487 --> 00:34:51,823
Something that's out there,
on the edge of their ability,
670
00:34:51,857 --> 00:34:54,693
that they can--
they can see sometimes
671
00:34:54,726 --> 00:34:56,195
and achieve you--
672
00:34:56,228 --> 00:35:00,098
you know, less times,
that, that, um...
673
00:35:00,132 --> 00:35:01,433
that keep them playing.
674
00:35:01,467 --> 00:35:03,902
Super jackpot!
675
00:35:03,935 --> 00:35:05,171
You get that implanted
in your head
676
00:35:05,204 --> 00:35:06,672
that you want to hear that.
677
00:35:06,705 --> 00:35:08,474
This is Pavlov.
678
00:35:08,507 --> 00:35:11,177
We're teaching you that when
you hear a thing in a game,
679
00:35:11,210 --> 00:35:13,245
it means something.
680
00:35:13,279 --> 00:35:14,913
The best games
are always the games
681
00:35:14,946 --> 00:35:17,716
that left you one shot away.
682
00:35:17,749 --> 00:35:20,118
"Gee, if I had just
that one more shot
683
00:35:20,152 --> 00:35:22,721
I know I would
have gotten it this time.
684
00:35:22,754 --> 00:35:24,423
I had two balls locked
and if I just got
685
00:35:24,456 --> 00:35:26,558
that last ball locked,
'cause I know I did it
686
00:35:26,592 --> 00:35:30,028
last time,
or I did it two games ago,
687
00:35:30,061 --> 00:35:32,731
I just need to do it
one more time.
688
00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:35,667
One more time."
689
00:35:39,037 --> 00:35:40,539
To design a pinball machine,
690
00:35:40,572 --> 00:35:43,074
basically you start
with a theme.
691
00:35:43,108 --> 00:35:47,246
You then begin the process
of "how do I lay out
692
00:35:47,279 --> 00:35:49,648
an interesting pinball machine
with the flippers
693
00:35:49,681 --> 00:35:53,419
and things that represents
where I'm trying to go
694
00:35:53,452 --> 00:35:55,321
with all of this?"
695
00:35:55,354 --> 00:35:57,489
The right lane feeds back
to this flipper.
696
00:35:57,523 --> 00:35:59,291
We build working models
of things
697
00:35:59,325 --> 00:36:01,760
and then we play with it,
but it tells us
698
00:36:01,793 --> 00:36:05,063
whether what we're doing
is going to work or not work
699
00:36:05,096 --> 00:36:07,733
or be fun or not fun.
700
00:36:07,766 --> 00:36:10,669
Okay, this shows
how we mock up what we do,
701
00:36:10,702 --> 00:36:12,204
and then here's the final game.
702
00:36:12,238 --> 00:36:14,973
This is what the final version
of the game looks like
703
00:36:15,006 --> 00:36:16,908
when it's finally produced.
704
00:36:20,246 --> 00:36:23,649
Each one of these games
is a year of your life.
705
00:36:23,682 --> 00:36:27,185
In that year of your life,
you always put your best effort
706
00:36:27,219 --> 00:36:29,255
forward to make the game fun.
707
00:36:29,288 --> 00:36:31,490
What you think
will be fun, okay?
708
00:36:31,523 --> 00:36:33,024
And you don't always hit it.
709
00:36:33,058 --> 00:36:34,526
Uh, no game designer
would lie to you
710
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,761
and tell you they always hit.
711
00:36:35,794 --> 00:36:36,795
You don't always hit it.
712
00:36:41,567 --> 00:36:43,134
The guy whose games I played
713
00:36:43,168 --> 00:36:45,571
is one of the legends
of the business,
714
00:36:45,604 --> 00:36:46,838
Steve Ritchie.
715
00:36:46,872 --> 00:36:48,374
Hi, my name's Steve Ritchie.
716
00:36:48,407 --> 00:36:50,976
717
00:36:54,913 --> 00:36:56,248
It's not so much
what I wanted to be.
718
00:36:56,282 --> 00:36:59,217
It's what people said
that I was going to be.
719
00:36:59,251 --> 00:37:02,187
They said that I was going
to be a mad scientist
720
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:04,222
in a toy factory.
721
00:37:04,256 --> 00:37:09,194
Even in grade school,
and that's what I am.
722
00:37:14,866 --> 00:37:17,102
I never thought that I would get
to meet Steve Ritchie.
723
00:37:17,135 --> 00:37:18,704
It's just, it's awesome.
724
00:37:18,737 --> 00:37:20,306
I'm on cloud nine.
725
00:37:21,673 --> 00:37:23,074
It's definitely an art.
726
00:37:23,108 --> 00:37:25,277
Just to know
the science of it is nothing.
727
00:37:25,311 --> 00:37:26,945
You have to understand
how the ball moves,
728
00:37:26,978 --> 00:37:30,682
but it's also curves
and things that the ball does
729
00:37:30,716 --> 00:37:34,119
that make you feel satisfied,
a nice sound, okay?
730
00:37:34,152 --> 00:37:36,622
You send a ball through a hole
and it goes "thunk!"
731
00:37:36,655 --> 00:37:39,157
Locks in, stays solid, you know?
732
00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:40,692
Doesn't bounce out.
733
00:37:40,726 --> 00:37:42,494
Make a sound at the same time.
734
00:37:42,528 --> 00:37:44,029
It's--that's art.
735
00:37:46,665 --> 00:37:47,833
It is a work of art.
736
00:37:47,866 --> 00:37:49,601
Being a programmer by trade
I can appreciate
737
00:37:49,635 --> 00:37:52,904
this is like
a large 3D program to me.
738
00:37:52,938 --> 00:37:55,607
All event-driven, and when it--
as soon as a, uh...
739
00:37:55,641 --> 00:37:58,076
an event happens...
740
00:37:58,109 --> 00:38:00,412
you can picture the electricity
flowing through there
741
00:38:00,446 --> 00:38:03,281
and different things happening.
742
00:38:03,315 --> 00:38:06,352
I mean, for me, this is like
a little, mini-world.
743
00:38:06,385 --> 00:38:10,088
So when the ball's
bouncing around inside,
744
00:38:10,121 --> 00:38:11,923
it's having fun
inside its own little world
745
00:38:11,957 --> 00:38:13,191
and you're helping it along.
746
00:38:14,926 --> 00:38:16,828
Maybe that's why I like it,
'cause I enjoy aquariums.
747
00:38:16,862 --> 00:38:18,897
The little fish
in the tank having fun,
748
00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:22,267
the ball's having a--
having fun in here.
749
00:38:23,402 --> 00:38:27,406
750
00:38:27,439 --> 00:38:29,341
If you chart
the history of pinball,
751
00:38:29,375 --> 00:38:32,378
you'll see things
go in and out of style.
752
00:38:32,411 --> 00:38:36,948
753
00:38:36,982 --> 00:38:38,450
Pinball has been through
its growth spurts,
754
00:38:38,484 --> 00:38:42,187
when it went from lights
in the backbox to score reels.
755
00:38:42,220 --> 00:38:46,958
From score reels to displays,
and displays to alphanumerics,
756
00:38:46,992 --> 00:38:48,960
and alphanumerics
to dot-matrix.
757
00:38:48,994 --> 00:38:51,397
758
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:55,667
Pinball lost a market of players
759
00:38:55,701 --> 00:38:59,905
because of their
technologically enhanced games.
760
00:38:59,938 --> 00:39:03,174
Video-mode is a feature
that allows me to play
761
00:39:03,208 --> 00:39:05,343
a video game
within this pinball machine.
762
00:39:05,377 --> 00:39:08,547
The machines went
a little haywire with their,
763
00:39:08,580 --> 00:39:11,450
um, toys and all
their different things
764
00:39:11,483 --> 00:39:14,486
that they felt
had to be on a game.
765
00:39:17,222 --> 00:39:19,491
There's the biggest division
among pinball players
766
00:39:19,525 --> 00:39:21,427
in my generation.
767
00:39:21,460 --> 00:39:24,830
Most of us would refuse to play
the new highly electronic
768
00:39:24,863 --> 00:39:27,198
pinball games.
769
00:39:27,232 --> 00:39:31,570
They've made the game
so complicated
770
00:39:31,603 --> 00:39:34,773
that five percent
of the people that play 'em
771
00:39:34,806 --> 00:39:36,307
understand the rules.
772
00:39:40,211 --> 00:39:41,513
I've always been into rules.
773
00:39:41,547 --> 00:39:44,015
I'm into board games
and I love strategy,
774
00:39:44,049 --> 00:39:46,251
so to me it's about rules.
775
00:39:46,284 --> 00:39:47,686
It's about achievement.
776
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,154
It's about goals.
777
00:39:49,187 --> 00:39:50,456
You start a game
and you start learning
778
00:39:50,489 --> 00:39:52,524
about a game
that you've never played before,
779
00:39:52,558 --> 00:39:53,892
and you--
and you--and you go,
780
00:39:53,925 --> 00:39:56,061
"Oh, I see, I--
if I do this and this and this
781
00:39:56,094 --> 00:39:57,829
I get one of those and--
782
00:39:57,863 --> 00:39:59,731
and three of those
gets me a multi-ball.
783
00:39:59,765 --> 00:40:01,433
I can do that,
piece of cake."
784
00:40:01,467 --> 00:40:02,501
You know, and then--
and then you do it
785
00:40:02,534 --> 00:40:03,969
ten times in a r--
786
00:40:04,002 --> 00:40:05,236
and then you play ten times
in a row and you don't do it,
787
00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:07,005
and--and you're like,
"Oh, I can do that!"
788
00:40:09,775 --> 00:40:12,143
For instance, in Pirates,
a very obvious strategy
789
00:40:12,177 --> 00:40:13,779
is to get "time-lock" lit.
790
00:40:13,812 --> 00:40:17,215
You get "time-lock" lit
by shooting balls into the disc,
791
00:40:17,248 --> 00:40:19,384
up the left ramp.
792
00:40:19,417 --> 00:40:21,119
The ball will bounce around
for three or four seconds
793
00:40:21,152 --> 00:40:22,420
while the post is up.
794
00:40:22,454 --> 00:40:24,690
Then the post comes down
and it still may bounce around,
795
00:40:24,723 --> 00:40:27,025
and all the while you'll
complete these lights.
796
00:40:27,058 --> 00:40:30,629
You get the light to the end
and that will light "time-lock."
797
00:40:30,662 --> 00:40:33,532
Once "time-lock" is lit, I know
that I'm good to go there,
798
00:40:33,565 --> 00:40:36,502
so then I start--
then I get the ship multi-ball,
799
00:40:36,535 --> 00:40:38,470
which is the ship--
I get the ship multi-ball
800
00:40:38,504 --> 00:40:41,573
one shot away from starting.
801
00:40:41,607 --> 00:40:43,108
So you shoot the ship,
you shoot the ship,
802
00:40:43,141 --> 00:40:44,510
you shoot the ship.
803
00:40:44,543 --> 00:40:46,778
The ship will start to rock,
and you know that when the ship
804
00:40:46,812 --> 00:40:50,816
is rocking you're one shot away
from starting that multi-ball,
805
00:40:50,849 --> 00:40:53,552
and if I succeed I have
a four-ball multi-ball
806
00:40:53,585 --> 00:40:55,086
of Tortuga running with--
807
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,656
and the ship multi-ball
is one shot away.
808
00:40:57,689 --> 00:41:00,391
Then I try and shoot the ship
with that fourth ball,
809
00:41:00,425 --> 00:41:03,695
starting that multi-ball
and--and--and I like that a lot
810
00:41:03,729 --> 00:41:07,032
because then I can try to lock
balls back into the disc
811
00:41:07,065 --> 00:41:08,934
to create--
to get my multiplier up
812
00:41:08,967 --> 00:41:10,736
while I'm create--
collecting jackpots
813
00:41:10,769 --> 00:41:13,038
and super jackpots,
and--and I...
814
00:41:13,071 --> 00:41:15,306
I find that very satisfying.
815
00:41:15,340 --> 00:41:17,208
Um, so that's just--
that's sort of a...
816
00:41:17,242 --> 00:41:19,845
a low-level goal that I think
anybody can achieve
817
00:41:19,878 --> 00:41:21,947
once they've figured it out
and put it together.
818
00:41:24,015 --> 00:41:28,153
What we do is a business
and what we build is fun.
819
00:41:28,186 --> 00:41:31,356
It just happens
to come in a box.
820
00:41:31,389 --> 00:41:33,058
Pinball machine
is a revenue-earning
821
00:41:33,091 --> 00:41:35,493
piece of equipment,
like a slot machine.
822
00:41:35,527 --> 00:41:38,864
Money goes in and--
and an operator comes along
823
00:41:38,897 --> 00:41:39,865
and collects the money.
824
00:41:39,898 --> 00:41:41,600
The player is entertained.
825
00:41:41,633 --> 00:41:44,335
Uh, he can win a free game.
826
00:41:44,369 --> 00:41:48,006
Um, he, uh--he can
be satisfied,
827
00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:49,641
uh, uh, or have
a great time
828
00:41:49,675 --> 00:41:52,778
for a short time, uh,
even with a little glory.
829
00:41:52,811 --> 00:41:54,880
The knocker goes off
in a crowded bar.
830
00:41:54,913 --> 00:41:55,881
"Hey, I did that.
831
00:41:55,914 --> 00:41:58,049
I made that go off, okay?"
832
00:41:58,083 --> 00:42:00,285
When you hear them
cussing sometimes
833
00:42:00,318 --> 00:42:03,054
or trying to kick the game
to get some action,
834
00:42:03,088 --> 00:42:04,756
and you know that--
you know you're getting--
835
00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:07,258
you're getting the results
that you want, you know?
836
00:42:07,292 --> 00:42:08,994
And you'll see them putting
more coins in that.
837
00:42:09,027 --> 00:42:11,362
You'll say, "Then I made it."
838
00:42:11,396 --> 00:42:16,534
* Put another quarter
in the pinball
839
00:42:16,568 --> 00:42:20,005
* Yeah put another quarter
in the pinball
840
00:42:20,038 --> 00:42:23,942
* Another one, two, three
841
00:42:32,984 --> 00:42:35,320
There's the collectors
and then there's the players,
842
00:42:35,353 --> 00:42:39,758
and then there's the people
that just like to talk pinball.
843
00:42:39,791 --> 00:42:41,660
They are almost
every kind of person
844
00:42:41,693 --> 00:42:43,161
you can talk about.
845
00:42:43,194 --> 00:42:45,363
I mean, everyone jokes
about there's some sickness,
846
00:42:45,396 --> 00:42:47,599
there's some--
there's some insanity.
847
00:42:51,236 --> 00:42:54,239
I don't know if any of 'em
are really cool, you know?
848
00:42:54,272 --> 00:42:57,308
But, it's kind of like
the "geeky thing"
849
00:42:57,342 --> 00:42:58,910
is probably
the way pinball
850
00:42:58,944 --> 00:43:02,413
is perceived by
the outsiders.
851
00:43:02,447 --> 00:43:04,015
How do you perceive pinball?
852
00:43:04,049 --> 00:43:06,785
Uh, I'm an insider
so I think it's really cool.
853
00:43:08,419 --> 00:43:09,554
Uh, hello.
854
00:43:09,587 --> 00:43:12,090
Uh, we are from Tokyo, Japan.
855
00:43:12,123 --> 00:43:13,892
We are pinball lovers.
856
00:43:15,894 --> 00:43:17,495
And then now it seems,
you know,
857
00:43:17,528 --> 00:43:21,532
almost like a definition
of a nerd or a, uh,
858
00:43:21,566 --> 00:43:24,402
a weird and marginal person
to be caught playing pinball,
859
00:43:24,435 --> 00:43:27,405
but maybe there's something
attractive about that.
860
00:43:28,506 --> 00:43:30,108
I'm the Jim Morrison of pinball.
861
00:43:30,141 --> 00:43:31,910
They either love me or hate me.
862
00:43:31,943 --> 00:43:35,781
863
00:43:35,814 --> 00:43:36,948
I think he's great for pinballs.
864
00:43:36,982 --> 00:43:39,751
I--I--I think
the Pingeek is good.
865
00:43:39,785 --> 00:43:45,791
866
00:43:45,824 --> 00:43:49,260
I haven't--haven't met any--
anybody like him before.
867
00:43:50,561 --> 00:43:52,063
I'm not a business man.
868
00:43:52,097 --> 00:43:54,499
I'm just a hack carrying
around a camcorder.
869
00:43:54,532 --> 00:43:58,837
870
00:43:58,870 --> 00:44:00,638
All my DVD's here are $10.
871
00:44:00,672 --> 00:44:02,473
Now, I want to start
with this one
872
00:44:02,507 --> 00:44:04,710
because it is very hard to find.
873
00:44:04,743 --> 00:44:07,645
I don't even know if anybody
has this except me at this point
874
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:09,614
because this was ten years ago.
875
00:44:09,647 --> 00:44:11,116
-Um...
-I got it.
876
00:44:11,149 --> 00:44:12,383
-Who?
-I have it.
877
00:44:12,417 --> 00:44:15,153
878
00:44:15,186 --> 00:44:16,487
I love pinball.
879
00:44:16,521 --> 00:44:17,622
I love the hobby.
880
00:44:17,655 --> 00:44:20,591
My main objective here
is to document
881
00:44:20,625 --> 00:44:23,528
every pinball machine
that is in existence,
882
00:44:23,561 --> 00:44:24,595
up and running.
883
00:44:24,629 --> 00:44:25,864
I want to show this one.
884
00:44:25,897 --> 00:44:27,699
This is my biggest seller
to date.
885
00:44:27,733 --> 00:44:31,636
Cost me $22 to make in gas.
886
00:44:31,669 --> 00:44:35,040
You know, 96 percent of my ideas
pan out to money,
887
00:44:35,073 --> 00:44:37,542
'cause I have years of sales
and marketing experience.
888
00:44:37,575 --> 00:44:40,478
Who would have even dreamed
to tape video of a pinball show
889
00:44:40,511 --> 00:44:41,947
ten years ago?
890
00:44:41,980 --> 00:44:44,349
I didn't know this stuff
would sell, did anybody else?
891
00:44:44,382 --> 00:44:45,383
Pfft.
892
00:44:58,163 --> 00:45:02,801
Then when you drain the ball,
it kicks up over the switch.
893
00:45:02,834 --> 00:45:05,070
This relay
disallows this switch,
894
00:45:05,103 --> 00:45:06,337
and then this drop switch--
895
00:45:06,371 --> 00:45:09,574
And I could watch it
over and over again myself,
896
00:45:09,607 --> 00:45:11,009
if I had the time.
897
00:45:11,042 --> 00:45:12,143
That was kind of weird.
898
00:45:12,177 --> 00:45:14,212
I'm here to save a hobby
that saved my life
899
00:45:14,245 --> 00:45:15,847
because music has saved my life
900
00:45:15,881 --> 00:45:17,482
'cause I collect records
all the time.
901
00:45:17,515 --> 00:45:18,649
I love music.
902
00:45:18,683 --> 00:45:20,018
I love the movie "Tommy."
903
00:45:20,051 --> 00:45:21,386
That changed my life,
'cause it was music,
904
00:45:21,419 --> 00:45:22,821
and it was about pinball.
905
00:45:22,854 --> 00:45:24,856
The arcades kept me going.
906
00:45:24,890 --> 00:45:26,925
I was pretty much
raised in arcades
907
00:45:26,958 --> 00:45:29,660
because of divorce issues
and just a mess.
908
00:45:29,694 --> 00:45:31,930
My whole life,
up till past couple years,
909
00:45:31,963 --> 00:45:33,364
was just a nightmare,
910
00:45:33,398 --> 00:45:35,633
and now I'm getting recognition,
you know,
911
00:45:35,666 --> 00:45:37,068
as this Pingeek character,
912
00:45:37,102 --> 00:45:40,238
just this guy runnin' around
with a camcorder.
913
00:45:40,271 --> 00:45:41,572
Hold on, I gotta check
my camcorder
914
00:45:41,606 --> 00:45:42,974
'cause I think I got
a bad angle.
915
00:45:43,008 --> 00:45:44,776
I'm showin' my butt right now,
hold on.
916
00:45:44,810 --> 00:45:48,379
Um...
917
00:45:48,413 --> 00:45:49,881
I'm single,
and you got to be,
918
00:45:49,915 --> 00:45:52,350
because if you have a family,
forget it.
919
00:45:52,383 --> 00:45:55,887
I mean, you can't be married
and have kids and do this.
920
00:45:55,921 --> 00:45:57,122
It will kill you.
921
00:45:57,155 --> 00:45:58,790
You know,
you can't do it.
922
00:45:58,824 --> 00:45:59,825
If you met the right woman,
923
00:45:59,858 --> 00:46:01,492
would you give up
pinball for her?
924
00:46:01,526 --> 00:46:02,894
Absolutely not.
925
00:46:04,863 --> 00:46:07,866
I guess, uh, may,
it-it-it would depend
926
00:46:07,899 --> 00:46:11,569
on what type of woman it is.
927
00:46:11,602 --> 00:46:12,971
You want "Pinball Fantasy"?
928
00:46:13,004 --> 00:46:14,372
Sure, that looks pretty cool.
929
00:46:14,405 --> 00:46:17,275
930
00:46:17,308 --> 00:46:20,111
What would make me happy?
931
00:46:22,647 --> 00:46:25,783
I'm Elton John at a baseball
stadium by the show,
932
00:46:25,817 --> 00:46:28,920
or something that I can go
in a glitter outfit, you know,
933
00:46:28,954 --> 00:46:30,956
and hop up
on the stage and say,
934
00:46:30,989 --> 00:46:33,825
"Hey, I've arrived for the show,
and guess who my ride is?
935
00:46:33,859 --> 00:46:35,026
It's this hot chick
in leather pants,"
936
00:46:35,060 --> 00:46:37,128
and I'm on a Harley,
and in the back,
937
00:46:37,162 --> 00:46:39,264
she drops me off,
and she goes, "You're Pingeek,"
938
00:46:39,297 --> 00:46:41,199
and I go, "Yeah."
939
00:46:41,232 --> 00:46:43,301
Elton John was the ultimate
showman in the '70s,
940
00:46:43,334 --> 00:46:46,037
and I want to be like him,
I want to be a showman.
941
00:46:50,141 --> 00:46:51,809
I might be pinball's
biggest fan.
942
00:46:51,843 --> 00:46:54,012
I really don't know,
but it's just going out,
943
00:46:54,045 --> 00:46:56,781
having fun, saving a game
from being thrown in the trash
944
00:46:56,814 --> 00:46:58,349
and bringing it back.
945
00:46:58,383 --> 00:47:01,719
You could call some of us
geeks--even me,
946
00:47:01,752 --> 00:47:03,721
because we're all
into the game, you know?
947
00:47:03,754 --> 00:47:05,490
And maybe that's
not the coolest thing,
948
00:47:05,523 --> 00:47:08,326
so, you know--but hey,
we're havin' fun with it.
949
00:47:10,128 --> 00:47:12,363
You know, everybody tells me
what to do.
950
00:47:12,397 --> 00:47:14,065
Everybody tells me
to take these drugs.
951
00:47:14,099 --> 00:47:15,867
I should be in an institution,
I should be doing this.
952
00:47:15,901 --> 00:47:17,135
I should have kids.
953
00:47:17,168 --> 00:47:18,469
I should be doin' that.
954
00:47:18,503 --> 00:47:20,638
I get so much crap advice
that, basically,
955
00:47:20,671 --> 00:47:23,141
I'd be dead and bankrupt
if I listened to any of it,
956
00:47:23,174 --> 00:47:26,711
and, you know,
I do my own thing.
957
00:47:26,744 --> 00:47:31,016
958
00:47:31,049 --> 00:47:33,151
People need to slow down
and get back to basics here
959
00:47:33,184 --> 00:47:34,920
and talk to each other
and, you know,
960
00:47:34,953 --> 00:47:37,222
there might not be all this
fighting and war and shooting,
961
00:47:37,255 --> 00:47:39,190
and, you know,
whatever happened
962
00:47:39,224 --> 00:47:41,759
to just goin' into a bar
like John Wayne?
963
00:47:41,792 --> 00:47:42,827
You know, somebody said
somethin' to you,
964
00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:43,962
you punch him out
965
00:47:43,995 --> 00:47:45,997
and then you have a drink
over it later.
966
00:47:46,031 --> 00:47:50,568
967
00:47:50,601 --> 00:47:53,104
I give-I'm pretty go--
I've given up on mankind.
968
00:47:53,138 --> 00:47:54,772
We're all gonna die.
969
00:47:54,805 --> 00:47:56,441
I mean, it's--you know,
it's inevitable,
970
00:47:56,474 --> 00:47:58,209
and the air's not
getting any better anyway,
971
00:47:58,243 --> 00:48:01,412
but one person cannot save
the world, I found that out,
972
00:48:01,446 --> 00:48:03,581
but I can try to save
this industry and this hobby.
973
00:48:03,614 --> 00:48:05,883
I can do my best,
I mean, you know?
974
00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:09,354
Yeah, I'm definitely
misunderstood.
975
00:48:09,387 --> 00:48:11,856
I'm, you know...
976
00:48:11,889 --> 00:48:20,798
977
00:48:21,432 --> 00:48:29,607
978
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,743
Here's this landscape
of things that are happening,
979
00:48:32,777 --> 00:48:35,613
and-and I can effect
that change
980
00:48:35,646 --> 00:48:38,883
by the simple manipulation
of pressing a button,
981
00:48:38,916 --> 00:48:40,618
and by pressing a button
at the right time,
982
00:48:40,651 --> 00:48:43,989
that ball is going to be
propelled into something
983
00:48:44,022 --> 00:48:47,292
that's gonna hit something,
knock something, do whatever.
984
00:48:47,325 --> 00:48:50,628
You are the-the person
that is, in some ways,
985
00:48:50,661 --> 00:48:52,497
controlling your own destiny.
986
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,904
I used to think that it was
man versus machine,
987
00:48:59,937 --> 00:49:02,907
but I tended
to back away and said,
988
00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:05,276
"It's not really
man against machine.
989
00:49:05,310 --> 00:49:07,278
It's man with machine."
990
00:49:17,322 --> 00:49:20,691
If I can sense
the rhythm of that game,
991
00:49:20,725 --> 00:49:22,160
the tempo of that game,
992
00:49:22,193 --> 00:49:26,531
I wanna be working
in tandem with it.
993
00:49:26,564 --> 00:49:28,099
I don't want--
I'm not fighting it.
994
00:49:28,133 --> 00:49:28,966
I'm not fighting against it.
995
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,168
I'm workin' with it.
996
00:49:34,505 --> 00:49:37,208
You have to be in sync.
997
00:49:37,242 --> 00:49:39,344
You know, I-I want
to give to that game
998
00:49:39,377 --> 00:49:42,047
and it's gonna give back to me.
999
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:42,680
Oh!
1000
00:49:44,815 --> 00:49:46,717
Holy cow.
1001
00:49:46,751 --> 00:49:48,686
Whoo!
1002
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,621
I guarantee you,
it's chemically similar
1003
00:49:50,655 --> 00:49:52,357
to, uh, that of athletes.
1004
00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:54,592
Uh, when athletes,
you know, get in the zone
1005
00:49:54,625 --> 00:49:56,361
they feel as though they're
watching themselves, you know,
1006
00:49:56,394 --> 00:49:58,029
run the ball down the field.
1007
00:49:58,063 --> 00:50:01,366
It's--it is transcendent.
1008
00:50:01,399 --> 00:50:04,535
Pinball reminds me of, like,
dreamin' because, like,
1009
00:50:04,569 --> 00:50:07,605
when I'm playin' the game,
it's like, uh,
1010
00:50:07,638 --> 00:50:10,541
I'm not really with,
like, reality.
1011
00:50:10,575 --> 00:50:14,179
I'm just kinda watchin'
this ball kind of float around.
1012
00:50:14,212 --> 00:50:16,147
It's like bein' in some place
where you don't really know
1013
00:50:16,181 --> 00:50:17,448
what you're doin',
1014
00:50:17,482 --> 00:50:19,384
but yet, you're watching
what you're doin',
1015
00:50:19,417 --> 00:50:22,320
and you're trying to concentrate
on it, and it feels like--
1016
00:50:22,353 --> 00:50:24,122
it feels like a dream.
1017
00:50:24,155 --> 00:50:27,692
It really is a unique feeling
to become one with the machine.
1018
00:50:27,725 --> 00:50:31,429
To-to tell that ball
where it's gonna go
1019
00:50:31,462 --> 00:50:33,964
and have your fingers
and your flippers
1020
00:50:33,998 --> 00:50:36,033
and your shaking ability
put that ball
1021
00:50:36,067 --> 00:50:37,702
where it's supposed to go.
1022
00:50:37,735 --> 00:50:39,904
It's sort of a Zen,
1023
00:50:39,937 --> 00:50:43,241
when you're sort
of meditating and you just--
1024
00:50:43,274 --> 00:50:45,676
and that's all you're
concentrated on is the pinball.
1025
00:50:45,710 --> 00:50:47,912
You can forget everything else.
1026
00:50:47,945 --> 00:50:50,848
It just feels like, you know,
here's the flippers,
1027
00:50:50,881 --> 00:50:52,517
and the more you get
in the zone,
1028
00:50:52,550 --> 00:50:54,485
it just feels
like the flippers are together
1029
00:50:54,519 --> 00:50:56,387
and you can't lose the ball
out the middle.
1030
00:50:58,589 --> 00:50:59,590
You've built it up
and built it up,
1031
00:50:59,624 --> 00:51:01,692
and now comes
the big multi-ball,
1032
00:51:01,726 --> 00:51:05,029
the one you've been
trying to get for 20 games,
1033
00:51:05,062 --> 00:51:07,398
and you play that, uh,
for all it's worth,
1034
00:51:07,432 --> 00:51:09,867
and you stretch it out
and you embellish it,
1035
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:12,837
and you let all the people
that are watching know that,
1036
00:51:12,870 --> 00:51:14,839
"look at this person,
this person's just done
1037
00:51:14,872 --> 00:51:16,807
a very difficult thing here.
1038
00:51:16,841 --> 00:51:19,777
He must be--
he must be special."
1039
00:51:19,810 --> 00:51:21,346
Uh-oh.
1040
00:51:25,250 --> 00:51:26,684
Of course, when you get
to put your initials on,
1041
00:51:26,717 --> 00:51:29,053
it's like, "There I am,
I own this game."
1042
00:51:29,086 --> 00:51:32,823
I, uh--I put a lot of playtime
in on this machine,
1043
00:51:32,857 --> 00:51:34,692
and I try to,
I try to defend it.
1044
00:51:34,725 --> 00:51:37,562
It's my home territory,
so I try to make sure
1045
00:51:37,595 --> 00:51:42,400
that people see my name
in as many games as possible.
1046
00:51:42,433 --> 00:51:45,470
One particular day,
when I was playing,
1047
00:51:45,503 --> 00:51:48,606
where I--I was just simply
ahead of the machine.
1048
00:51:48,639 --> 00:51:50,675
The machine couldn't keep up
with me and I was accumulating
1049
00:51:50,708 --> 00:51:53,944
so many free games,
and I could not leave
1050
00:51:53,978 --> 00:51:57,282
'cause I did not want
to lose these free games,
1051
00:51:57,315 --> 00:51:58,883
and eventually, after about
three or four hours,
1052
00:51:58,916 --> 00:52:00,885
I had to go,
1053
00:52:00,918 --> 00:52:03,554
so in a sense, there's,
there is a possibility,
1054
00:52:03,588 --> 00:52:05,723
you have the illusion
that you've won.
1055
00:52:08,726 --> 00:52:11,929
There is something inevitable
about losing at pinball,
1056
00:52:11,962 --> 00:52:15,166
and I think that's a blessing,
because there's a feeling
1057
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,235
often when you're
playing pinball
1058
00:52:17,268 --> 00:52:20,471
that the machine decides
when you need to go home,
1059
00:52:20,505 --> 00:52:24,041
and if you're tired enough,
you'll start playing poorly,
1060
00:52:24,074 --> 00:52:25,776
and the machine notices that,
1061
00:52:25,810 --> 00:52:29,614
and it wipes you out
and it sends you packing.
1062
00:52:34,519 --> 00:52:38,756
The object of play in pinball
is a high score.
1063
00:52:38,789 --> 00:52:41,826
If you score enough,
you win a free game.
1064
00:52:43,761 --> 00:52:46,831
The way to win
is to control the ball,
1065
00:52:46,864 --> 00:52:48,065
either with the flippers
1066
00:52:48,098 --> 00:52:51,502
or by careful nudging
of the entire machine.
1067
00:52:53,404 --> 00:52:56,241
You know, you see a truly
skilled pinball player,
1068
00:52:56,274 --> 00:52:57,875
you realize
it is a game of skill,
1069
00:52:57,908 --> 00:53:00,010
not a game of chance.
1070
00:53:03,013 --> 00:53:06,050
When I started, we started
with small flippers.
1071
00:53:06,083 --> 00:53:10,221
You basically played,
you know, gun and run,
1072
00:53:10,255 --> 00:53:11,722
run and gun.
1073
00:53:11,756 --> 00:53:13,758
Ball's coming down, boom.
1074
00:53:16,494 --> 00:53:18,229
And just pound away,
just do it.
1075
00:53:18,263 --> 00:53:20,265
I mean, it's--
it's pure adrenaline,
1076
00:53:20,298 --> 00:53:21,699
and it's pure reflex.
1077
00:53:21,732 --> 00:53:25,169
It is the spontaneity
of that reflex.
1078
00:53:26,704 --> 00:53:29,073
Now what you have
are players who control
1079
00:53:29,106 --> 00:53:30,875
the tempo of the game.
1080
00:53:33,744 --> 00:53:36,080
I see it with my sons,
in all honesty.
1081
00:53:36,113 --> 00:53:38,215
I mean, there are times
where I just stand back
1082
00:53:38,249 --> 00:53:40,585
and I marvel at the fact
that they have
1083
00:53:40,618 --> 00:53:42,520
the ability that they have.
1084
00:53:44,088 --> 00:53:45,690
One of the ways that I've
become a better player,
1085
00:53:45,723 --> 00:53:46,824
and I think it's
sort of the difference
1086
00:53:46,857 --> 00:53:49,159
between how I approach
a game of pinball
1087
00:53:49,193 --> 00:53:52,430
and how our dad approaches
a game of pinball.
1088
00:53:52,463 --> 00:53:54,465
I look at a game,
I try to find a weakness,
1089
00:53:54,499 --> 00:53:57,768
and I try to exploit that
weakness for my own gain,
1090
00:53:57,802 --> 00:54:00,405
whereas, you know, my dad
will sit and shoot a ramp
1091
00:54:00,438 --> 00:54:02,573
over and over again
for no points,
1092
00:54:02,607 --> 00:54:04,475
because the shot feels good.
1093
00:54:05,810 --> 00:54:07,845
And it's like--
1094
00:54:14,184 --> 00:54:15,185
It's very serious.
1095
00:54:15,219 --> 00:54:17,888
They train and they have
training sessions.
1096
00:54:19,624 --> 00:54:23,828
This is a sport,
you're gonna work a sweat.
1097
00:54:23,861 --> 00:54:25,496
I've seen some players play
where their entire body,
1098
00:54:25,530 --> 00:54:27,798
like, floats up from the game.
1099
00:54:31,502 --> 00:54:34,805
You know, you're down there
playin' for five or six hours.
1100
00:54:34,839 --> 00:54:37,675
To stand and stay focused
that long, it's,
1101
00:54:37,708 --> 00:54:40,911
it's pretty draining.
1102
00:54:40,945 --> 00:54:43,348
I'm sore in my legs.
1103
00:54:43,381 --> 00:54:46,116
I'm sore in
my shoulders,
1104
00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:48,886
underneath my
arms, my calves.
1105
00:54:50,154 --> 00:54:51,622
You want to build up
those pinball muscles.
1106
00:54:51,656 --> 00:54:53,524
I know it
sounds crazy,
1107
00:54:53,558 --> 00:54:56,361
but we
are athletes.
1108
00:55:02,199 --> 00:55:03,934
I've always wanted to be
the champion of the world
1109
00:55:03,968 --> 00:55:06,637
in something,
1110
00:55:06,671 --> 00:55:10,207
and then I had to figure out
what it was gonna be in,
1111
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:12,910
and then I figured out
that it's gonna be pinball.
1112
00:55:14,679 --> 00:55:17,114
And later on tonight,
Rick Stetta, who's being crowned
1113
00:55:17,147 --> 00:55:19,216
the new pinball wizard
of the world.
1114
00:55:21,318 --> 00:55:26,056
It was really in 1991, I think,
Rick Stetta became our first
1115
00:55:26,090 --> 00:55:29,259
really recognized
world champion.
1116
00:55:29,293 --> 00:55:31,396
Rick Stetta.
1117
00:55:31,429 --> 00:55:33,063
Thirty-two.
1118
00:55:33,097 --> 00:55:35,566
Sunnyvale, California.
1119
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,102
World's best pinball player.
1120
00:55:38,135 --> 00:55:42,373
Well, I...don't really
have a job.
1121
00:55:42,407 --> 00:55:46,143
1122
00:55:46,176 --> 00:55:49,380
I was the same person
I always was
1123
00:55:49,414 --> 00:55:52,249
before I got
all my publicity,
1124
00:55:52,282 --> 00:55:54,151
just a guy that went out and,
and liked playing
1125
00:55:54,184 --> 00:55:57,121
the machines, and--
and, you know,
1126
00:55:57,154 --> 00:55:59,524
nobody...
1127
00:55:59,557 --> 00:56:01,225
nobody thought
that much of me, you know?
1128
00:56:01,258 --> 00:56:05,095
Um, they thought, you know,
I was pretty much, you know,
1129
00:56:05,129 --> 00:56:07,532
just some, some weird guy
that was out doin' stuff
1130
00:56:07,565 --> 00:56:09,266
by himself,
1131
00:56:09,299 --> 00:56:13,871
and, um, just out of touch
with life.
1132
00:56:13,904 --> 00:56:16,040
I started playing
when I was 10 years old,
1133
00:56:16,073 --> 00:56:18,809
and when I was 15, I decided
to dedicate my life to it,
1134
00:56:18,843 --> 00:56:20,778
become the best in the world.
1135
00:56:20,811 --> 00:56:24,214
I practice three to four hours
a day, on the average,
1136
00:56:24,248 --> 00:56:25,516
and that's almost every day.
1137
00:56:25,550 --> 00:56:27,918
I miss about one day a month.
1138
00:56:27,952 --> 00:56:29,520
It's addictive.
1139
00:56:29,554 --> 00:56:31,556
You start thinking about
when you're gonna get your,
1140
00:56:31,589 --> 00:56:33,991
your next one and where it's
gonna be from,
1141
00:56:34,024 --> 00:56:36,527
and what it's gonna be like.
1142
00:56:36,561 --> 00:56:38,996
Yeah, it's the whole thing.
1143
00:56:43,668 --> 00:56:48,439
Pinball has gotten a lot more
complicated nowadays,
1144
00:56:48,473 --> 00:56:52,042
and it's becoming more
and more unclear to me
1145
00:56:52,076 --> 00:56:56,380
how people are getting
big scores.
1146
00:56:56,413 --> 00:56:58,449
I was trying to see if my name
was still on it, too,
1147
00:56:58,483 --> 00:57:03,420
but mine had actually fallen off
of the number 1-through-25 list.
1148
00:57:03,454 --> 00:57:04,722
Besides, all the world
really wants to know
1149
00:57:04,755 --> 00:57:06,724
is who's in the top ten.
1150
00:57:15,399 --> 00:57:17,868
Yeah, sometimes
you see it all when,
1151
00:57:17,902 --> 00:57:19,804
when you're playing
really well.
1152
00:57:19,837 --> 00:57:21,572
I can see a ball
going toward the out lane
1153
00:57:21,606 --> 00:57:22,840
at 12 inches away,
1154
00:57:22,873 --> 00:57:25,209
and know that I have to do
something right away,
1155
00:57:25,242 --> 00:57:27,077
and I'll nudge the machine,
and when the ball gets there,
1156
00:57:27,111 --> 00:57:31,949
it just does this thing
off the post and rolls in.
1157
00:57:31,982 --> 00:57:34,619
Like I knew,
I could see it.
1158
00:57:34,652 --> 00:57:36,754
When I watched him,
he does the routine
1159
00:57:36,787 --> 00:57:38,956
where he's, like,
you know, just--
1160
00:57:38,989 --> 00:57:41,492
you know, like a mime
or somethin' like this,
1161
00:57:41,526 --> 00:57:44,328
sizin' up the game
and tips it a little bit.
1162
00:57:44,361 --> 00:57:47,031
He respects the game,
he wipes it off with whatever.
1163
00:57:47,064 --> 00:57:49,266
and he's got this own routine
that's only his.
1164
00:57:49,299 --> 00:57:52,036
Nobody can do it, but the
body English and everything,
1165
00:57:52,069 --> 00:57:53,437
he's just one with the game,
1166
00:57:53,470 --> 00:57:57,074
and I want to do
what he's doing.
1167
00:57:57,107 --> 00:58:01,411
The way I play, I've got this
dance thing goin' on, you know,
1168
00:58:01,445 --> 00:58:04,815
and I could be, like,
on one hand and one heel,
1169
00:58:04,849 --> 00:58:08,986
and then I'm making my decision
how to hit that machine
1170
00:58:09,019 --> 00:58:12,256
from that odd pose.
1171
00:58:12,289 --> 00:58:16,961
But I would be in that spot
because the way I play,
1172
00:58:16,994 --> 00:58:19,129
it was determined that that's
where I was supposed to be
1173
00:58:19,163 --> 00:58:23,467
before that ball was there,
and then I'd pop it
1174
00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:26,571
and change my stance
and watch the ball roll in
1175
00:58:26,604 --> 00:58:29,574
and, and play the ball,
and I'd st--I'd be amazed.
1176
00:58:29,607 --> 00:58:31,609
No matter how many times
I'd see something odd like that,
1177
00:58:31,642 --> 00:58:36,413
each time that I would see it,
I would be amazed.
1178
00:58:38,983 --> 00:58:42,687
1179
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,156
I would hate to be 95 years old
and look back on my life
1180
00:58:46,190 --> 00:58:50,661
and say, "You know,
what I really wanted to do
1181
00:58:50,695 --> 00:58:54,264
was play pinball, but,
gee, my mom told me
1182
00:58:54,298 --> 00:58:58,202
that I should get a career."
1183
00:58:58,235 --> 00:59:00,905
Pinball makes me feel
very special
1184
00:59:00,938 --> 00:59:03,841
because I have pinball
as my own world,
1185
00:59:03,874 --> 00:59:07,578
always something
that's there for me.
1186
00:59:07,612 --> 00:59:11,616
Pinball is a prize,
1187
00:59:11,649 --> 00:59:15,552
a diamond in the rough
that I have personally shined.
1188
00:59:15,586 --> 00:59:19,456
Pinball is something
that's done something for me
1189
00:59:19,489 --> 00:59:23,193
that I had to discover
for myself,
1190
00:59:23,227 --> 00:59:26,997
that was already there
in a world that--
1191
00:59:27,031 --> 00:59:30,635
that gives us all kinds
of input about stuff
1192
00:59:30,668 --> 00:59:32,937
that we don't even
want to hear
1193
00:59:32,970 --> 00:59:35,906
other people's
input about.
1194
00:59:35,940 --> 00:59:37,507
The input I got about pinball
1195
00:59:37,541 --> 00:59:40,210
was that it was
something negative,
1196
00:59:40,244 --> 00:59:42,179
and I knew
1197
00:59:42,212 --> 00:59:46,350
that all that input
was mistaken.
1198
00:59:46,383 --> 00:59:51,255
Pinball is a world of,
of special rules and,
1199
00:59:51,288 --> 00:59:55,125
and unique opportunities
and entertainment coming out
1200
00:59:55,159 --> 00:59:59,529
of seemingly nowhere.
1201
00:59:59,563 --> 01:00:01,131
I would even go
as far as to say
1202
01:00:01,165 --> 01:00:05,069
as I am special
because of pinball.
1203
01:00:05,102 --> 01:00:12,843
1204
01:00:14,078 --> 01:00:22,319
1205
01:00:22,352 --> 01:00:23,821
I always played pinball,
1206
01:00:23,854 --> 01:00:26,023
and my friends and I
were always into it,
1207
01:00:26,056 --> 01:00:30,060
but we never had any idea that
there was pinball competitions.
1208
01:00:30,094 --> 01:00:32,129
"Wow, we've got
to go to these things
1209
01:00:32,162 --> 01:00:36,566
and I'm gonna go
and annihilate everybody."
1210
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,737
And we went to our first show
and your heart would be pounding
1211
01:00:39,770 --> 01:00:42,807
and you'd be shakin' a little,
and just so nervous that it--
1212
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,241
it was really difficult to play.
1213
01:00:44,274 --> 01:00:45,810
You'd choke,
you wouldn't do well,
1214
01:00:45,843 --> 01:00:47,644
and you have to wait a year
till you get back
1215
01:00:47,678 --> 01:00:50,347
to try it again, you know?
1216
01:00:50,380 --> 01:00:51,615
Aww!
1217
01:00:51,648 --> 01:00:54,551
There's, like, 10 women
and, you know, 200 men,
1218
01:00:54,584 --> 01:00:57,087
but pay no mind to it.
1219
01:00:57,121 --> 01:01:03,327
1220
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,095
It's not as popular with girls
as is with boys,
1221
01:01:05,129 --> 01:01:06,897
but we can play just as well.
1222
01:01:06,931 --> 01:01:13,904
1223
01:01:16,907 --> 01:01:26,951
1224
01:01:26,951 --> 01:01:31,889
1225
01:01:31,922 --> 01:01:36,193
There's a strong mental
component to remain calm
1226
01:01:36,226 --> 01:01:38,628
and in control.
1227
01:01:38,662 --> 01:01:40,630
The best players
will never do something
1228
01:01:40,664 --> 01:01:43,868
that affects the ball unless
they do it for a purpose,
1229
01:01:43,901 --> 01:01:45,435
and ball control
doesn't just mean
1230
01:01:45,469 --> 01:01:46,971
always catching the ball
and holding it.
1231
01:01:47,004 --> 01:01:49,406
It also means putting the ball
where you want it
1232
01:01:49,439 --> 01:01:51,141
so that you know
where it's gonna be next,
1233
01:01:51,175 --> 01:01:53,310
not just where it is right now.
1234
01:01:53,343 --> 01:01:55,545
You know, people in A division,
you know, it's, like,
1235
01:01:55,579 --> 01:01:57,447
it's just amazing
to watch, watch them play.
1236
01:01:57,481 --> 01:02:00,617
Like, they-they do stuff
that, uh, that sometime,
1237
01:02:00,650 --> 01:02:03,553
you would think
was not possible.
1238
01:02:03,587 --> 01:02:07,457
And I think that it's special
to see incredible play,
1239
01:02:07,491 --> 01:02:12,262
because it combines chess with
true physical inner activity
1240
01:02:12,296 --> 01:02:15,199
and people who have,
you know, the ability
1241
01:02:15,232 --> 01:02:18,535
to hold their concentration,
have the reflexes, uh,
1242
01:02:18,568 --> 01:02:20,670
know how to dissect
a play field
1243
01:02:20,704 --> 01:02:22,807
and the objectives
and the rules,
1244
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,977
into something that is as
elegant as watching a ballet.
1245
01:02:27,011 --> 01:02:37,054
1246
01:02:37,054 --> 01:02:47,064
1247
01:02:59,409 --> 01:03:01,445
I would say most
of my vacation time
1248
01:03:01,478 --> 01:03:04,915
is, uh, pinball shows.
1249
01:03:04,949 --> 01:03:07,717
My mother lives, uh,
lives with me in New Jersey,
1250
01:03:07,751 --> 01:03:09,219
and I tell her
I'm goin' to these shows,
1251
01:03:09,253 --> 01:03:12,890
She said, "Go ahead,
enjoy yourself."
1252
01:03:12,923 --> 01:03:14,224
She says, "You gotta
have some fun,
1253
01:03:14,258 --> 01:03:16,861
so go ahead,
enjoy yourself."
1254
01:03:19,429 --> 01:03:22,432
Six million!
1255
01:03:22,466 --> 01:03:25,903
And basically, I'm a synthetic
organic chemist.
1256
01:03:25,936 --> 01:03:30,374
Actually, uh, been working
on, uh, they're trying to find
1257
01:03:30,407 --> 01:03:33,110
a treatment for,
for Alzheimer's disease.
1258
01:03:33,143 --> 01:03:37,381
Fifty million!
1259
01:03:37,414 --> 01:03:39,716
I like chess,
I like to solve math puzzles.
1260
01:03:39,749 --> 01:03:41,051
Gonna have to wait.
1261
01:03:41,085 --> 01:03:42,853
You know, I like,
uh, bowling.
1262
01:03:42,887 --> 01:03:44,821
Then I'm a,
I'm a big rail fan,
1263
01:03:44,855 --> 01:03:46,256
so I like to ride--
1264
01:03:46,290 --> 01:03:50,027
I like to ride subways.
1265
01:03:50,060 --> 01:03:52,662
I really haven't made it to, um,
finals, and, um,
1266
01:03:52,696 --> 01:03:54,031
or made a tournament
in a while.
1267
01:03:54,064 --> 01:03:57,201
I think I, I did it,
I did it once in--it was '99,
1268
01:03:57,234 --> 01:03:59,603
and--but I got eliminated,
unfortunately,
1269
01:03:59,636 --> 01:04:02,839
so I'm hoping to, uh, you know,
to actually win
1270
01:04:02,873 --> 01:04:05,242
a major tournament.
1271
01:04:05,275 --> 01:04:16,420
1272
01:04:16,453 --> 01:04:19,856
* A storm is brewin'
along the horizon
1273
01:04:19,890 --> 01:04:22,726
* Clouds gettin' darker,
but my sun is still risin'
1274
01:04:22,759 --> 01:04:26,530
* Surprisin' villagers,
flooding cities and towns
1275
01:04:26,563 --> 01:04:28,665
* Down with the strong,
and I could be cut down
1276
01:04:28,698 --> 01:04:30,968
The Storm is,
uh, my nickname.
1277
01:04:31,001 --> 01:04:32,669
I came up with it myself.
1278
01:04:32,702 --> 01:04:35,572
* To rectify,
electrify your brain
1279
01:04:35,605 --> 01:04:36,974
* Eyes closed in terror
1280
01:04:37,007 --> 01:04:38,342
I was born and raised
in Manhattan.
1281
01:04:38,375 --> 01:04:40,945
I-I started playing pinball
when I was four years old,
1282
01:04:40,978 --> 01:04:44,348
so pinball and I kind of
grew up together.
1283
01:04:44,381 --> 01:04:48,785
I want to win, and I want
to beat the best.
1284
01:04:48,818 --> 01:04:53,290
I don't go day to day thinking
that I'm second-best.
1285
01:04:53,323 --> 01:04:56,260
It makes it much easier to live
thinking that I'm the best
1286
01:04:56,293 --> 01:04:57,727
and I just haven't
had my moment.
1287
01:04:59,363 --> 01:05:02,299
What's really important
when you play pinball
1288
01:05:02,332 --> 01:05:05,169
at the world-championship level
1289
01:05:05,202 --> 01:05:07,871
is to get
your mentality straight,
1290
01:05:07,904 --> 01:05:10,607
to be sharp, and to have
a killer instinct.
1291
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,777
Get in there!
1292
01:05:13,810 --> 01:05:18,482
Because everyone is so good
that you need the mental edge.
1293
01:05:18,515 --> 01:05:22,953
I deliberately pump myself up
to bring that killer instinct
1294
01:05:22,987 --> 01:05:25,689
up to the highest level,
1295
01:05:25,722 --> 01:05:27,824
so that's where it's a storm,
1296
01:05:27,857 --> 01:05:30,127
because you got two
totally conflicting things.
1297
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,730
You got this placid,
Buddha, meditative state,
1298
01:05:33,763 --> 01:05:37,134
and you have this
devilish fire,
1299
01:05:37,167 --> 01:05:39,169
screaming-madman state
1300
01:05:39,203 --> 01:05:40,937
going on at the same time.
1301
01:05:42,973 --> 01:05:44,808
And if you can balance
those two things,
1302
01:05:44,841 --> 01:05:47,811
you'll be unbeatable,
and sometimes I am.
1303
01:05:52,149 --> 01:05:54,318
And I feel like an outsider.
1304
01:05:54,351 --> 01:05:58,755
I feel kind of like someone
that they all think
1305
01:05:58,788 --> 01:06:00,324
they're better than,
1306
01:06:00,357 --> 01:06:02,626
and I know for a fact
that I can beat them,
1307
01:06:02,659 --> 01:06:04,261
and I haven't proved that yet.
1308
01:06:06,096 --> 01:06:08,698
There is enough
of a skill element
1309
01:06:08,732 --> 01:06:11,201
that the best players
always rise to the top,
1310
01:06:11,235 --> 01:06:12,869
but there's enough
of a luck element
1311
01:06:12,902 --> 01:06:14,538
that everyone
should have their day,
1312
01:06:14,571 --> 01:06:16,406
and I haven't had mine yet.
1313
01:06:23,047 --> 01:06:24,614
One of the gentlemen here,
Neil Shatz,
1314
01:06:24,648 --> 01:06:27,984
has been in the finals
three or four different times,
1315
01:06:28,018 --> 01:06:29,886
and it's, like,
if there is a pinball god,
1316
01:06:29,919 --> 01:06:32,322
maybe they're cursing him
because he's second place
1317
01:06:32,356 --> 01:06:33,990
or third place,
and he's so great.
1318
01:06:34,024 --> 01:06:36,760
He deserves to win finally,
and so if,
1319
01:06:36,793 --> 01:06:38,228
if I were to pick
someone to win--
1320
01:06:38,262 --> 01:06:39,596
well, I'd pick me,
1321
01:06:39,629 --> 01:06:40,930
but, uh, if I were to pick
two people to win,
1322
01:06:40,964 --> 01:06:42,266
I'd pick him.
1323
01:06:45,502 --> 01:06:48,738
I've taken, uh,
second at PAPA.
1324
01:06:48,772 --> 01:06:53,477
I've taken second in Pinburgh,
and second place in Arizona,
1325
01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:57,114
uh, second place
at the Pinathon is Roseville.
1326
01:06:57,147 --> 01:06:59,816
Second at Expo I believe
three times in A,
1327
01:06:59,849 --> 01:07:02,186
and then I won
the B division.
1328
01:07:06,190 --> 01:07:10,327
I started the competitive
circuit in, uh, 1992,
1329
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,162
and then when I went
to that first tournament,
1330
01:07:12,196 --> 01:07:16,233
I took second behind Rick
and got a book for it,
1331
01:07:16,266 --> 01:07:19,869
and then I realized
I was hooked at that point.
1332
01:07:25,675 --> 01:07:28,312
Sometimes, I've made
mental mistakes and,
1333
01:07:28,345 --> 01:07:30,480
and then it's really
tough to deal with.
1334
01:07:30,514 --> 01:07:32,716
It's frustrating,
but other times
1335
01:07:32,749 --> 01:07:35,051
I think I've played
to the best of my ability,
1336
01:07:35,085 --> 01:07:37,621
not made any mistakes,
and it's that knowledge
1337
01:07:37,654 --> 01:07:40,224
of knowin' that pinball
can deal you bad breaks
1338
01:07:40,257 --> 01:07:43,760
and it's no one's fault that,
um, I think helps me deal
1339
01:07:43,793 --> 01:07:46,296
with a lot of those situations,
but sure, yeah.
1340
01:07:46,330 --> 01:07:49,933
It's, it's tough, um,
but I enjoy just
1341
01:07:49,966 --> 01:07:52,969
the thrill of competition,
so I think that just
1342
01:07:53,002 --> 01:07:57,707
keeps me comin' back,
regardless of the result.
1343
01:07:57,741 --> 01:07:59,909
Give me a typical moment
this morning, guys?
1344
01:07:59,943 --> 01:08:03,480
Trying to, uh, last-minute
qualify here.
1345
01:08:03,513 --> 01:08:05,982
And another thing too
is just happening to have
1346
01:08:06,015 --> 01:08:08,452
my competitive career
when, you know,
1347
01:08:08,485 --> 01:08:13,257
some true giants of the game
were also, um, in their prime.
1348
01:08:13,290 --> 01:08:15,892
I mean, Bowen Kerins,
1349
01:08:15,925 --> 01:08:18,328
Keith Elwin,
Lyman Sheats Jr.
1350
01:08:18,362 --> 01:08:22,266
Absolutely, I think those guys
are simply better players.
1351
01:08:22,299 --> 01:08:24,301
Maybe none better
than Lyman Sheats.
1352
01:08:24,334 --> 01:08:25,269
Lyman Sheats.
1353
01:08:25,302 --> 01:08:25,869
Lyman Sheats.
1354
01:08:25,902 --> 01:08:27,204
Lyman Sheats.
1355
01:08:27,237 --> 01:08:28,838
He's the best pinball player
in the world.
1356
01:08:30,207 --> 01:08:31,308
I'm a game programmer.
1357
01:08:31,341 --> 01:08:34,444
I, uh, program, uh,
pinball machines,
1358
01:08:34,478 --> 01:08:37,781
work with designers, uh,
and, uh, basically
1359
01:08:37,814 --> 01:08:40,917
make the game do
all of what it does.
1360
01:08:43,253 --> 01:08:46,556
While I was in college,
it was around 1986.
1361
01:08:46,590 --> 01:08:48,892
You know, bein' in college,
it's kinda
1362
01:08:48,925 --> 01:08:50,760
low-pressure,
fun environment,
1363
01:08:50,794 --> 01:08:52,596
and it just, uh--
I don't know,
1364
01:08:52,629 --> 01:08:55,232
I just kinda took to it as a,
as a very inexpensive
1365
01:08:55,265 --> 01:08:59,169
form of entertainment.
1366
01:08:59,203 --> 01:09:01,070
It was about five years
after that
1367
01:09:01,104 --> 01:09:03,607
that I started competing.
1368
01:09:05,942 --> 01:09:08,011
There are, like,
a couple techniques I try and,
1369
01:09:08,044 --> 01:09:10,647
you know, teach at first.
1370
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,816
The easiest thing
is to just hit the flippers,
1371
01:09:12,849 --> 01:09:14,418
uh, individually.
1372
01:09:14,451 --> 01:09:16,119
Uh, you know,
just at separate times.
1373
01:09:16,152 --> 01:09:17,621
I don't know, you know,
if people,
1374
01:09:17,654 --> 01:09:18,755
I see a lot of people,
you know,
1375
01:09:18,788 --> 01:09:20,957
they hit both flippers
at the same time.
1376
01:09:20,990 --> 01:09:23,026
The other is,
it's pretty easy
1377
01:09:23,059 --> 01:09:25,829
to just not do anything,
1378
01:09:25,862 --> 01:09:27,897
um, in terms of when
the ball is coming down.
1379
01:09:27,931 --> 01:09:30,467
I mean, I always, like,
try and stress ball control
1380
01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:33,203
to people who, um--
1381
01:09:34,938 --> 01:09:37,207
You know,
when they first play.
1382
01:09:37,241 --> 01:09:39,175
Try and get the balls
under control
1383
01:09:39,209 --> 01:09:40,977
in multi-ball here.
1384
01:09:41,010 --> 01:09:42,712
I'm actually gonna try
and get one of these balls
1385
01:09:42,746 --> 01:09:45,315
over the other flipper
so I can make a shot,
1386
01:09:45,349 --> 01:09:47,884
score some points.
1387
01:09:47,917 --> 01:09:50,320
Sort of like that.
1388
01:09:50,354 --> 01:09:53,156
Lyman Sheats,
never had seen him before,
1389
01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:56,360
and I watched this person
methodically
1390
01:09:56,393 --> 01:10:00,364
do a passing shot over,
make the shot, kick down, go up,
1391
01:10:00,397 --> 01:10:02,098
passing shot, over.
1392
01:10:02,131 --> 01:10:04,501
So--so, like that.
1393
01:10:04,534 --> 01:10:05,869
Bounce the ball over
to the other flipper.
1394
01:10:05,902 --> 01:10:07,504
Now it's under control
just because--
1395
01:10:07,537 --> 01:10:10,640
And I just watched in disbelief,
and I said, "This is amazing.
1396
01:10:10,674 --> 01:10:12,041
This is incredible."
1397
01:10:12,075 --> 01:10:13,743
I'd never thought
of playing pinball that way.
1398
01:10:13,777 --> 01:10:23,086
1399
01:10:23,119 --> 01:10:24,621
The what?
1400
01:10:24,654 --> 01:10:25,889
The what?
1401
01:10:25,922 --> 01:10:31,194
1402
01:10:31,227 --> 01:10:32,762
I don't even know
nothin' about it.
1403
01:10:32,796 --> 01:10:36,366
1404
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:37,634
What's that, pinball?
1405
01:10:37,667 --> 01:10:38,668
Pinball?
1406
01:10:38,702 --> 01:10:39,703
Play pinball?
1407
01:10:39,736 --> 01:10:42,339
1408
01:10:42,372 --> 01:10:45,642
World Pinball Championship.
1409
01:10:45,675 --> 01:10:46,910
Here we are.
1410
01:10:46,943 --> 01:10:49,546
World Pinball Championships.
1411
01:10:49,579 --> 01:10:50,880
I didn't even know
they were having
1412
01:10:50,914 --> 01:10:52,516
a pinball championship here.
1413
01:10:52,549 --> 01:11:04,394
1414
01:11:04,428 --> 01:11:06,396
PAPA was actually started
by Steve Epstein
1415
01:11:06,430 --> 01:11:07,964
in New York City.
1416
01:11:07,997 --> 01:11:09,699
He did the first six of them.
1417
01:11:09,733 --> 01:11:11,335
What exactly is PAPA?
1418
01:11:11,368 --> 01:11:14,538
PAPA is the Professional
Amateur Pinball Association.
1419
01:11:14,571 --> 01:11:18,475
And then Kevin got
the rights to take it over,
1420
01:11:18,508 --> 01:11:20,344
and then he built this place.
1421
01:11:23,179 --> 01:11:26,683
This is about 30,000
square feet of space
1422
01:11:26,716 --> 01:11:30,454
for about 350 or so
pinball machines.
1423
01:11:30,487 --> 01:11:33,657
It was built in 2004.
1424
01:11:33,690 --> 01:11:37,594
It was finished about one day
before the actual tournament.
1425
01:11:37,627 --> 01:11:38,862
We had the tournament.
1426
01:11:38,895 --> 01:11:40,096
Everyone came here.
1427
01:11:40,129 --> 01:11:43,132
Everyone had a great time,
and within one week
1428
01:11:43,166 --> 01:11:46,803
there was a hurricane named Ivan
that came up the East Coast,
1429
01:11:46,836 --> 01:11:49,806
and the, the little creek
in front of here
1430
01:11:49,839 --> 01:11:51,675
overflowed its banks.
1431
01:11:51,708 --> 01:11:56,646
1432
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,147
Well, the flood
was five feet high
1433
01:11:58,181 --> 01:11:59,483
in some places,
1434
01:11:59,516 --> 01:12:01,718
and I was out here
when it was happening,
1435
01:12:01,751 --> 01:12:03,186
and there was nothing
to be done about it.
1436
01:12:03,219 --> 01:12:06,122
It destroyed
240 pinball machines
1437
01:12:06,155 --> 01:12:08,024
and about a dozen video games.
1438
01:12:08,057 --> 01:12:18,101
1439
01:12:18,101 --> 01:12:23,673
1440
01:12:23,707 --> 01:12:25,509
All of the machines
were taken out front
1441
01:12:25,542 --> 01:12:27,744
and basically
smashed for parts.
1442
01:12:27,777 --> 01:12:33,082
1443
01:12:33,116 --> 01:12:34,851
It was heartbreaking.
1444
01:12:34,884 --> 01:12:38,488
It was everything we had
just finished, was washed away.
1445
01:12:38,522 --> 01:12:41,825
1446
01:12:41,858 --> 01:12:43,627
We call it the graveyard.
1447
01:12:46,496 --> 01:12:48,131
You never know
when you need a part.
1448
01:12:48,164 --> 01:12:55,972
1449
01:12:56,005 --> 01:12:59,509
I was just frustrated and--
and wanted to get the place
1450
01:12:59,543 --> 01:13:04,280
cleaned up so I could decide
if I wanted to try again.
1451
01:13:04,313 --> 01:13:07,350
It did prove possible
to clean up and rebuild.
1452
01:13:07,383 --> 01:13:10,987
Kevin rebuilt it and purchased
all the machines within a year,
1453
01:13:11,020 --> 01:13:13,523
and we got it open again
1454
01:13:13,557 --> 01:13:15,792
about one day before it was
ready to go last year,
1455
01:13:15,825 --> 01:13:17,427
and we were ready to go again.
1456
01:13:19,362 --> 01:13:20,630
Uh, it's what I wanna do,
1457
01:13:20,664 --> 01:13:22,331
and I had barely
really gotten started.
1458
01:13:22,365 --> 01:13:24,634
It seemed silly
to only do it once.
1459
01:13:35,078 --> 01:13:40,917
1460
01:13:45,088 --> 01:13:55,131
1461
01:13:55,131 --> 01:14:05,208
1462
01:14:23,192 --> 01:14:25,562
You can have a great game
one game, next game you'll look
1463
01:14:25,595 --> 01:14:29,132
like you've never played pinball
before in your life.
1464
01:14:29,165 --> 01:14:32,869
* Yeah, yeah
1465
01:14:32,902 --> 01:14:36,906
* Yeah, yeah
1466
01:14:36,940 --> 01:14:40,744
* Yeah, yeah
1467
01:14:40,777 --> 01:14:44,881
* Yeah, yeah
1468
01:14:44,914 --> 01:14:54,958
1469
01:14:54,958 --> 01:15:03,466
1470
01:15:03,499 --> 01:15:05,034
There are a couple of people
1471
01:15:05,068 --> 01:15:07,637
who are really
high-quality players,
1472
01:15:07,671 --> 01:15:10,807
very focused when they play,
tough to beat.
1473
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,375
You know, when they're
having an off day,
1474
01:15:12,408 --> 01:15:14,544
that's the day that you hope
you have your on day,
1475
01:15:14,578 --> 01:15:18,615
because they don't--they don't
have off days very often.
1476
01:15:18,648 --> 01:15:29,993
1477
01:15:30,026 --> 01:15:31,427
* Hey
1478
01:15:34,698 --> 01:15:35,699
* Hey
1479
01:15:39,302 --> 01:15:40,403
* Hey
1480
01:15:40,436 --> 01:15:41,337
In the final rounds,
1481
01:15:41,370 --> 01:15:42,972
most players
will put up huge games,
1482
01:15:43,006 --> 01:15:44,207
just because of the situation.
1483
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:45,541
They, they rise
to the occasion.
1484
01:15:45,575 --> 01:15:46,475
* Hey
1485
01:15:46,509 --> 01:15:47,944
Anything can happen.
1486
01:15:47,977 --> 01:15:51,581
One slip and the ball goes,
and that's it.
1487
01:15:51,615 --> 01:15:52,515
* Hey
1488
01:15:52,548 --> 01:15:53,717
* Hey
1489
01:15:53,750 --> 01:15:54,951
* Hey
1490
01:15:54,984 --> 01:15:56,052
* Hey
1491
01:15:56,085 --> 01:15:59,789
1492
01:15:59,823 --> 01:16:00,790
* Hey
1493
01:16:00,824 --> 01:16:04,427
1494
01:16:04,460 --> 01:16:05,394
* Hey
1495
01:16:05,428 --> 01:16:14,203
1496
01:16:14,237 --> 01:16:15,171
* Hey
1497
01:16:22,445 --> 01:16:27,150
Okay, the first-place winner
and new World Pinball Champion,
1498
01:16:27,183 --> 01:16:28,785
the incomparable Lyman Sheats!
1499
01:16:53,309 --> 01:16:58,281
It certainly presented
an entertainment option
1500
01:16:58,314 --> 01:17:01,050
that was awfully compelling.
1501
01:17:01,084 --> 01:17:05,588
As much as pinball was sort of
man against machine,
1502
01:17:05,621 --> 01:17:07,991
your ability to catch
and move that ball around
1503
01:17:08,024 --> 01:17:09,759
and hit those targets,
1504
01:17:09,793 --> 01:17:13,596
video offered
a completely new dimension.
1505
01:17:19,568 --> 01:17:24,007
In 1980, you could not possibly
build enough video games
1506
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,209
to saturate the market,
it was impossible.
1507
01:17:26,242 --> 01:17:29,045
Little by little,
the interest in playing
1508
01:17:29,078 --> 01:17:30,714
the pinballs went down,
1509
01:17:30,747 --> 01:17:32,782
and of course,
the videos came up.
1510
01:17:32,816 --> 01:17:37,386
And all of a sudden, our income
doubled and tripled overnight.
1511
01:17:37,420 --> 01:17:39,122
Then Pacman hit.
1512
01:17:39,155 --> 01:17:40,189
I couldn't believe
how much money
1513
01:17:40,223 --> 01:17:41,758
they'd take in a weekend.
1514
01:17:41,791 --> 01:17:43,126
It just blew me away,
1515
01:17:43,159 --> 01:17:45,895
and then the pinball sat there
almost forlorn-looking.
1516
01:17:45,929 --> 01:17:47,563
You know, like,
"Come play me."
1517
01:17:47,596 --> 01:17:50,133
When video came in,
it was such a big deal,
1518
01:17:50,166 --> 01:17:52,035
and all the people
that had been playing pinball
1519
01:17:52,068 --> 01:17:53,236
got squeezed out.
1520
01:17:53,269 --> 01:17:54,738
What can you do
in a video game?
1521
01:17:54,771 --> 01:17:57,140
You can't see anything
except what's on the screen,
1522
01:17:57,173 --> 01:17:58,607
but when you're playing
a pinball game,
1523
01:17:58,641 --> 01:18:00,744
you're playing actually
a piece of equipment
1524
01:18:00,777 --> 01:18:03,479
that you can move around
and control.
1525
01:18:03,512 --> 01:18:05,048
Video games you can play
a few times,
1526
01:18:05,081 --> 01:18:06,783
learn the patterns,
and beat 'em.
1527
01:18:06,816 --> 01:18:07,951
You can beat 'em endlessly.
1528
01:18:07,984 --> 01:18:09,652
You can beat 'em
into submission.
1529
01:18:09,685 --> 01:18:11,187
Pinball machines,
you can't do that.
1530
01:18:11,220 --> 01:18:13,056
You can only go so far
and then it--
1531
01:18:13,089 --> 01:18:17,526
it just dominates you,
so you always lose in the end.
1532
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,395
There's not a closed-end
loop here.
1533
01:18:19,428 --> 01:18:20,663
It's a pinball machine.
1534
01:18:20,696 --> 01:18:24,367
There's a beginning,
but it's endless.
1535
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,702
A video game, I got to the end,
I finished it.
1536
01:18:26,736 --> 01:18:29,873
It took me, you know,
42 months and 10 hours a day,
1537
01:18:29,906 --> 01:18:33,676
but I finished the game,
it is now done.
1538
01:18:33,709 --> 01:18:35,211
A pinball machine,
you're never done.
1539
01:18:38,047 --> 01:18:40,283
The real back-breaker came
1540
01:18:40,316 --> 01:18:43,920
when home video finally
hit the marketplace,
1541
01:18:43,953 --> 01:18:47,390
when you could go out
and buy your Atari console,
1542
01:18:47,423 --> 01:18:49,458
where you could pop in
the various games
1543
01:18:49,492 --> 01:18:51,160
and play right on your set.
1544
01:18:51,194 --> 01:18:54,563
Now kids weren't
collecting in one spot
1545
01:18:54,597 --> 01:18:56,599
and having that
social interaction.
1546
01:18:56,632 --> 01:18:59,268
They were now breaking down
into sub-little-groups
1547
01:18:59,302 --> 01:19:01,670
of either myself
playing at home,
1548
01:19:01,704 --> 01:19:03,840
or me and my buddy
playing at home,
1549
01:19:03,873 --> 01:19:07,944
but it really spelled
the end of, certainly,
1550
01:19:07,977 --> 01:19:09,545
the pinball era.
1551
01:19:09,578 --> 01:19:11,514
It was widely believed
at the time
1552
01:19:11,547 --> 01:19:13,516
that videogames
had usurped pinball
1553
01:19:13,549 --> 01:19:17,720
and there was no longer a need
for pinball whatsoever.
1554
01:19:17,753 --> 01:19:19,322
And then one day,
people got bored
1555
01:19:19,355 --> 01:19:21,357
with playing
all these video games,
1556
01:19:21,390 --> 01:19:24,193
and the industry
imploded on itself.
1557
01:19:27,797 --> 01:19:30,533
Pinball was back
on the map again.
1558
01:19:30,566 --> 01:19:32,268
After a decade of decline,
1559
01:19:32,301 --> 01:19:35,038
flippers are flapping,
bumpers are thumping.
1560
01:19:35,071 --> 01:19:37,473
Pinball is bouncing back.
1561
01:19:37,506 --> 01:19:41,878
The last coming of pinball
would have been 1992, '93.
1562
01:19:41,911 --> 01:19:44,814
In those years, we built,
oh, somewhere around
1563
01:19:44,848 --> 01:19:48,251
120-, 130,000
pinball machines that year.
1564
01:19:48,284 --> 01:19:58,327
1565
01:19:58,327 --> 01:20:08,437
1566
01:20:10,739 --> 01:20:20,783
1567
01:20:20,783 --> 01:20:30,793
1568
01:20:43,306 --> 01:20:45,408
I've had a steady connection
to pinball
1569
01:20:45,441 --> 01:20:48,177
for the last 50 years.
1570
01:20:51,214 --> 01:20:54,817
I had a lot of life
tied up in it.
1571
01:20:54,850 --> 01:20:58,487
It was sort of an identity
that I, I grew,
1572
01:20:58,521 --> 01:21:01,190
and I didn't
separate very well
1573
01:21:01,224 --> 01:21:04,260
the identity of me
as the Broadway Arcade
1574
01:21:04,293 --> 01:21:06,195
and me as Steve Epstein.
1575
01:21:10,033 --> 01:21:12,301
Took me quite a few years
after we closed the arcade
1576
01:21:12,335 --> 01:21:15,471
to really, uh,
I had a pretty big long funk,
1577
01:21:15,504 --> 01:21:16,705
to be honest with you.
1578
01:21:16,739 --> 01:21:18,374
It wasn't a monetary
thing that, you know,
1579
01:21:18,407 --> 01:21:20,009
I lost a big income.
1580
01:21:20,043 --> 01:21:24,147
It was really a presence and,
uh, just the daily interaction
1581
01:21:24,180 --> 01:21:26,715
of the world that I had
at my doorstep,
1582
01:21:26,749 --> 01:21:28,884
that I knew I was never
gonna have again.
1583
01:21:38,727 --> 01:21:42,298
It was a
life-defining moment
1584
01:21:42,331 --> 01:21:44,600
that, uh,
saddens me,
1585
01:21:44,633 --> 01:21:47,937
and still saddens me, actually.
1586
01:21:47,971 --> 01:21:49,705
Big smile, Steve!
1587
01:21:49,738 --> 01:21:54,277
That whole '70s into the '80s
into the early '90s
1588
01:21:54,310 --> 01:21:56,845
was a time when, you know,
1589
01:21:56,879 --> 01:21:58,814
the magic of pinball
was out there.
1590
01:21:58,847 --> 01:22:00,383
The magic of pinball
still exists.
1591
01:22:00,416 --> 01:22:02,685
It just has to reconnect
with the people.
1592
01:22:05,921 --> 01:22:09,425
You know, I go out now and I see
some of my old friends,
1593
01:22:09,458 --> 01:22:10,559
and I play pinball,
1594
01:22:10,593 --> 01:22:13,429
and that's, that's nice,
but, you know,
1595
01:22:13,462 --> 01:22:15,965
having the Broadway Arcade
was, uh, was a unique
1596
01:22:15,999 --> 01:22:19,002
and incredible experience that,
uh, just never gonna happen
1597
01:22:19,035 --> 01:22:20,803
for me again.
1598
01:22:31,580 --> 01:22:33,116
I think one of the most
difficult things
1599
01:22:33,149 --> 01:22:35,951
that anybody might encounter
in their lives
1600
01:22:35,985 --> 01:22:38,988
is to be somewhat
helpless
1601
01:22:39,022 --> 01:22:41,557
in the inevitability of an
outcome.
1602
01:22:41,590 --> 01:22:46,529
So if you look at the,
at the downside of it all, um,
1603
01:22:46,562 --> 01:22:50,633
pinball deserves a better fate
than what it currently has.
1604
01:22:53,902 --> 01:22:57,306
In truth, it isn't a big part
of our culture anymore.
1605
01:22:57,340 --> 01:23:00,009
In truth,
1606
01:23:00,043 --> 01:23:03,946
you might not
want to print this, but...
1607
01:23:03,979 --> 01:23:05,681
pinball's slowly going.
1608
01:23:08,217 --> 01:23:12,888
It is an American invention.
1609
01:23:12,921 --> 01:23:16,725
It has been a big part
of American pop culture,
1610
01:23:16,759 --> 01:23:21,297
but I'm not sure
that...
1611
01:23:21,330 --> 01:23:23,099
anyone will care
1612
01:23:23,132 --> 01:23:24,467
in 10 to 15 years.
1613
01:23:24,500 --> 01:23:27,103
That's my thoughts,
but I don't know.
1614
01:23:27,136 --> 01:23:34,710
1615
01:23:34,743 --> 01:23:39,282
Were pinball not to survive,
1616
01:23:39,315 --> 01:23:40,916
the world would continue,
1617
01:23:40,949 --> 01:23:43,419
but a little bit of the fabric
of life would be gone.
1618
01:23:43,452 --> 01:23:47,390
1619
01:23:47,423 --> 01:23:49,024
I don't know
if we can get to a point
1620
01:23:49,058 --> 01:23:52,928
where there is
a precipitous
1621
01:23:52,961 --> 01:23:55,531
need and desire
1622
01:23:55,564 --> 01:23:58,767
by the general population
for pinball.
1623
01:23:58,801 --> 01:24:02,838
I think that there is
a fleeting sense
1624
01:24:02,871 --> 01:24:06,442
of one's naiveté
and innocence
1625
01:24:06,475 --> 01:24:08,744
that games bring out,
1626
01:24:08,777 --> 01:24:11,114
and as we get older,
for many of us,
1627
01:24:11,147 --> 01:24:13,249
we step away
from doing those things
1628
01:24:13,282 --> 01:24:16,785
that gave us joy
when we were younger,
1629
01:24:16,819 --> 01:24:20,289
and I think that that
loss of innocence is tough,
1630
01:24:22,958 --> 01:24:25,294
and that is the tragedy
of it,
1631
01:24:25,328 --> 01:24:28,697
because there is still
something that is just
1632
01:24:28,731 --> 01:24:31,967
marvelously entrancing
about pinball,
1633
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:35,238
and everybody should try it,
at some point in time.
1634
01:24:35,271 --> 01:24:39,875
1635
01:24:39,908 --> 01:24:43,045
Pinball is a game
that
1636
01:24:43,078 --> 01:24:45,214
adds more to life.
1637
01:24:45,248 --> 01:24:47,983
Yes, I think it is definitely
more than just a game.
1638
01:24:48,016 --> 01:24:51,454
I-I-I, it is such a unique
experience that you cannot
1639
01:24:51,487 --> 01:24:53,556
replicate anywhere else.
1640
01:24:53,589 --> 01:24:55,558
I mean, you have
a universe in a,
1641
01:24:55,591 --> 01:24:59,094
in a box under glass,
and every time
1642
01:24:59,128 --> 01:25:01,897
you enter that universe,
it's different.
1643
01:25:01,930 --> 01:25:03,166
You never know what
you're gonna have.
1644
01:25:03,199 --> 01:25:05,100
You never know what
you're gonna experience,
1645
01:25:05,134 --> 01:25:09,838
but whatever that experience is,
of frustration, anxiety,
1646
01:25:09,872 --> 01:25:12,040
the pleasure of making shots
and scoring,
1647
01:25:12,074 --> 01:25:14,810
I mean, it's all part
of what life really is,
1648
01:25:14,843 --> 01:25:19,148
and I-I-I equate it
much how life is.
1649
01:25:19,182 --> 01:25:21,083
You never know what you're gonna
get around the next corner,
1650
01:25:21,116 --> 01:25:23,686
but you, you got to go
and be involved in it.
1651
01:25:23,719 --> 01:25:34,997
1652
01:25:35,030 --> 01:25:36,365
I still get calls.
1653
01:25:36,399 --> 01:25:38,801
People still walk by that,
you know, they look for it,
1654
01:25:38,834 --> 01:25:40,403
even to this day.
1655
01:25:40,436 --> 01:25:43,906
I mean, you know,
it's very strange, very strange.
1656
01:25:46,475 --> 01:25:50,379
It was a great 35 years.
1657
01:25:50,413 --> 01:26:04,693
1658
01:26:06,829 --> 01:26:14,470
1659
01:26:14,503 --> 01:26:15,571
* Pinball
1660
01:26:15,604 --> 01:26:22,778
1661
01:26:22,811 --> 01:26:24,012
* Pinball
1662
01:26:24,046 --> 01:26:31,186
1663
01:26:31,220 --> 01:26:32,455
* Pinball
1664
01:26:32,488 --> 01:26:39,795
1665
01:26:39,828 --> 01:26:40,729
* Pinball
1666
01:26:40,763 --> 01:26:48,237
1667
01:26:48,271 --> 01:26:49,405
* Pinball
1668
01:26:49,438 --> 01:26:59,482
1669
01:26:59,482 --> 01:27:05,153
1670
01:27:05,187 --> 01:27:06,322
* Pinball
1671
01:27:08,857 --> 01:27:18,901
1672
01:27:18,901 --> 01:27:28,911
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