All language subtitles for unforgotten.s06e04

Dead? It wasn't Martin!
Cos he was...

I said shut up, noisy bitch...

I don't want to get into trouble.
I don't want you to either.

So should I lie, then?

There was an Afghan family who had
a long-running dispute with him.

Really boiled over.

You should start with the guy
that interpreted for them.

Hiya.

Oh.

All I have done
is walk into my house,

and I've found an illegal immigrant.

And how many times?

It's not illegal
for someone seeking asylum

to cross the channel
however they want to.

I don't know what to say that will
best allow you to forgive me.

Just the truth, Debs.

We did sleep together.

Sorry.
It's just, I...

Night, dollface.

Can I just ask you

if you ever thought your husband
might have been having an affair?

What the hell
sort of question's that?

A few months before he disappeared,
he'd seen him with another woman.

He said he'd introduced her to him
as "Melinda".

Cos a row that got out of hand
about infidelity,

it's just about the oldest motive
for murder there is.

I don't know
if they're listening to this,

but don't say anything about Daddy.

I would like to take my break now,
please,

so that I can get my story straight.

# All we do is hide away

# All we do is
All we do is hide away

# All we do is lie and wait

# All we do is
All we do is lie and wait

# I've been upside down

# I don't want to be
The right way round

# Can't find paradise
On the ground... #

I just find it rather hard

to square Juliet Cooper's
description of their relationship

with what Prentice told me.
Hm.

Ditto the bar manager.
Ditto her.

Husbands and wives are allowed

to have different political
opinions. No way

But that diametrically opposed?

Although we're assuming
that Juliet's who she says she is.

Yeah, I'm just asking if...

maybe this was a toxic marriage,
perhaps violent, perhaps coercive,

that finally imploded?

Where are we on his girlfriend?

So, our Melinda, is Melinda Ricci.

Peachy Ricci? Yeah.
SOFTLY: "Peachy"?

She had a column in the Mail
a few years back.

She's like a BTEC
kind of Katie Hopkins,

working for a cable channel now.

You think that they met through
this forum that Cooper set up?

UK United, yes.

Cooper is in the background of
the viral video about the retweet.

Do we have an address for her?

Well, I spoke to an HR guy at BNC,
her current employers.

They're based in Docklands,
but she dials in her contribution

from her home about
ten miles west of Cork, apparently.

Hm.

Er, OK. Contact regional Garda.

See if they can get local plod down
to set up a Zoom with her.

And check if they have anything
on her in their systems, too. Yeah.

And as much background as you can
find before we speak to her, please.

Yeah, sure.

That's mad.
I know.

So, you mentioned your dad earlier,
Marty.

Yes, I mentioned my dad earlier.

I'm guessing he's always been
a great support to you. Mm.

He has, yes.
So I'm wondering,

did maybe your dad go and speak
to Mr Cooper about the money?

You OK, Marty?

I-I'm fine, thank you for asking.

Did he go and speak to Gerry
for you?

No, he never went to see Gerry.

You seem a bit upset
at these questions.

Marty?

Well, he couldn't
go and see Gerry, could he?

Why not?

I think we should probably
take a little break.

Cos he was dead.

Because Gerry made him be dead.

Why am I even at that school,
anyway?

You're supposed to be
a fucking socialist.

Taylor, not this, not now -
we'll miss your train.

I loathe that school.

I loathe everything it stands for,
and you should too.

Or is that all a lie as well?

Gerry told me the vaccine
was a plot to control us

that contained micro-transmitters,
and that we should not take it.

When did he say this? Whenever
I went to see him to get my money.

Did he tell you not to take it?
Yes, he told me not to take it.

Did he suggest that your parents
shouldn't take it, too?

No, he didn't do that.

I did that.

But maybe you told your mum and dad
not to take it

because of what he said to you?
Yes.

Did they listen to you?

My mum and dad were offered
the vaccine at the end of January,

and they, they refused it.

On the second of February,
Dad got COVID

and was admitted to Dover
Royal Hospital week... a week later

with severe
respiratory difficulties.

On the 19th of February,

Dad died.

All on his Jack Jones.

Thomas Henry Baines was 76.

I'm so sorry for your loss.

We both are, Marty.

He had a good innings, as they say.

So... on top of the money...

..you now had the awful tragedy
of your dad dying.

Yes, this is correct.

How did you feel about Gerry
at this point?

No good crying over spilt milk.

Were you not angry with him?

Because I'm wondering...

I'm wondering if maybe you arranged
to meet him somewhere on the 24th?

No.

Not to tell him about your dad?
Not because you were angry?

No.
Maybe... Maybe you rowed?

You know, er,
maybe he'd pushed you again,

and it all got out of control?

SOFTLY: No. No, no, no, no, no...

I think he's answered
your questions,

so unless you've got any evidence
you haven't mentioned,

I think we bring this to a close.

Let's RUI him for now and do some
more background on that arrest.

We'd better head.

Hey, Mel.
Hey, Joseph. How you doing?

Good, thanks. You?
Er, yeah, I'm fine.

How's your man doing?

Slow but steady.

Father Ryan being very supportive,
I hear.

How can I help you, Joseph?

Had a call from a police officer
in London wanting to speak to you

about being a possible witness
in a murder investigation.

Wow. Murder of whom?

A man called Gerard Cooper.

Yeah, I-I knew Gerry.

He-He went missing a few years back.

Just before you came over here,
they said. Right.

They asked if you could make
yourself available for a Zoom,

tomorrow at four.

Yeah.
Yeah, I-I-I think I could do that.

So just drop by the station, we'll
take care of everything our end,

and I'll sit in with you.

I mean, do... do I need a lawyer?

Entirely up to you.
See you tomorrow.

Oh, Murray's just forwarded me
an email from the lettings agency.

So, the lettings agent
thinks police were called

to the dispute she told him about.

OK. So this guy Asif
would remember that too, no?

Look, these are
absolutely top quality.

From the same factory
that makes the genuine article.

And, er, the passport...

..how much?

Well, the passport, driver's licence
and the national insurance card

I can do you for 7K.

We do also offer finance options,

if that was something
you were interested in.

A lot of people go for a five-year
repayment schedule,

which makes it very affordable.

We're also happy to accept late-term
payments if that worked better...

Out the back now. Now!

Now!

Hi.
Hi. Asif Syed?

Yes. DCI Jess James,
and this is DI Sunil Khan.

Have you got five minutes
for a quick chat?

Er, yes, maybe. About what, please?

It's in connection
with a murder investigation.

We think you might have known
the victim.

Who was the victim?

Could we come in?
Yes. Yes, please, of course.

'It's the fucking Matrix, buddy.

'They're trying to shut your voice
down cos you're a strong man.

'So what do you need to do?'
I need to be one step ahead, man.

'Be ahead or be dead, dude.
Be ahead or be dead.'

UNDER BREATH: Ahead or be dead.
Ahead or be dead. Ahead or be dead.

UNDER BREATH: Ahead or be dead.
Ahead or be dead.

Ahead or be dead.

This is him. Name of Gerard Cooper.

Yes, I... I think I remember him.

And what do you think
your connection to him was?

I work as an interpreter.

And back then,

I worked with tenants whose rent
was being paid by the council.

Er... I think he was
one of the landlords.

Erm... what council was that?
Thamesford.

OK. And can you remember
specifically

when you might have encountered
Mr Cooper?

I would have to check.
OK. Roughly, then?

I think maybe
it was early on in the pandemic.

Maybe the first year.

I have a vague recollection
of some COVID-related issues.

OK, so it was 2020.
Yes.

Do you have any recollection
of what he was like?

Er, I mean...
I must've met dozens of landlords

in the three or four years
I was in London.

Because the agency that managed his
portfolio said he was quite tricky.

Did they?
You don't remember that?

I remember, erm...

..he wasn't very good
at maintaining his properties.

The agency said that.

Anything else?
Erm...

He could be... quite aggressive.
With you?

With the tenants, who obviously
were often very vulnerable people.

And physically aggressive?
No. I never saw that.

Because we have an agent
who gave us details of several cases

where disputes had blown up.

One in particular,

which was a family
of asylum seekers from Herat,

where it had turned violent.

Which family?
The Dowari family.

UNDER BREATH: Dowari...

As I say, I must've dealt
with many dozens of cases.

Most of them were fractious.

Except the police
were called to this one.

It was a dispute
about a chronic damp problem.

The family had a toddler, a newborn.

It was making them all sick.

The police getting involved
wasn't that rare, sadly. OK.

Quite a distinctive case,
but you've no memory of that at all?

They all just merge into one. Sorry.
No worries.

And when was the last time you think
you might've seen Mr Cooper?

My contract with the council
ended in September 2020,

so not after that.

Right.
And, erm...

Do you mind me asking
what your nationality is, Asif?

I hope to very soon be British.

Oh. Well, good for you.

And welcome.
This can be a fabulous country.

Yes, it can. And thank you.

And before that, where are you from?
Afghanistan.

OK. Well, that must have been tough,

to see your fellow countrymen
and countrywomen,

vulnerable people,
being mistreated often by this man.

Of course.

Did it make you angry, or...?

If I got angry every time I saw
a refugee being treated badly...

..I'd be living in
a permanent state of rage, DI Khan.

Thanks for your time.

I think we need more detail
on this Dowari case. Mm-hm.

Sam...
Who was that?

Social services.
They wanted some gen on a client.

Can... Can we talk, please?
Sure.

Yeah, so, if Hassan moves out after
he comes home from work today,

and if you can minimise
any future contact with him, then...

..yeah, I'm happy to just move on.

And if I don't agree to that?

OK, why... why do you immediately
have to turn this into a conflict?

Says the man who's just given me
an ultimatum. No.

It's not an ultimatum.
No.

You're not going
to hold a gun to my head

because I did right by a man
who saved your life

on at least two occasions.
OK. Asif...

And you know what
really winds me up?

It's that you think you can do this.

Do what?

Just tell me how it's going to be.

You don't even consider the idea
of finding another way through.

No. Is that not exactly
what we're trying to do right now?

What, telling me
what's going to happen?

Not really, Sam.

I'll play by the same rules.

No.

Hassan's not going anywhere.

But... this is my house.

Then call the police.

I mean, I never really believed him.

But there was always
just enough ambiguity

to make me think
we could get through it.

Except now...

..if he could have done that...

..he could do anything.

So?
So...

What do I do?

So, digging into
the Marty Baines' caution

and it gets interesting.

In 2016, he studied a foundation
course in computer programming

at the University of Ramsgate,
but eight months in,

he's asked to leave after he starts
to regularly pick the locks

of the rooms of his fellow students
in his halls and enter their rooms.

Right. Now, he's not trying
to steal anything.

They're just coming back
from the pub at night

to find Marty sitting on their beds
in their rooms.

Jesus.
Mm.

Male or female?
Both.

Not at all scary.

And how many times did this happen?

Well, the university
weren't really sure.

Some students thought
that maybe they had forgotten

to lock their rooms

and so treated it more like
Marty wandering in uninvited

and so didn't report it.

But there are three formal cases.

Was there ever any violence?

Not from him, and not from any
of the other students,

until the last incident.

Which was?

So, one bloke comes back
from the pub, pissed up,

to find Marty in his room
and kind of loses it.

Calls him all kinds of stuff,

which ends up with Marty
trying to strangle him.

Whoa. What, like, properly strangle?

Yeah. He has to be pulled away
by the guy's mates.

Takes three of them, apparently.
Wow.

How come he only got a caution?

So, the student didn't wanna
pursue anything.

He admitted
to the investigating officer

that he'd used "inappropriate
language about disability"

and was scared it was gonna be
brought up in court.

Mm. And do we know
why Marty was doing this?

He said he was just looking
for a friend to talk to.

In terms of any potential link
to violence,

I've just received the evidence list
for the assault on Cooper

in his pub car park.
Oh, yeah? What we got?

Well, we've got Cooper's sweatshirt,
and they've taken DNA off it,

so we've material for comparison.
Nice one, thanks.

So, Melinda Ricci. Tell me stuff.

OK, so, born in 1978

in a small market town in Surrey.

Went to a local Catholic
girls' school, got decent As.

Went to Rochester uni
to study marketing,

then enlisted in the Navy.

Served four years and left in 2005
following a disciplinary issue

involving a fellow officer.

A fellow Muslim officer.

She then started her own
green beauty business

which gained the attention
of some red-tops

following an advertising campaign
she herself featured in.

After the 2008 crash,
the business went bankrupt,

and she lost her home
and had to rent.

And it was a bad experience
with an Asian landlord,

prompting this online rant
which gained half-a-million views,

erm, got her an invitation
to write an article for the Mail

which went down so well,
it led to a weekly column.

SUNNY: What sort of column?
Opinions.

Of which, you know, she has a lot.
On?

Er, recurring themes include

immigration, benefit cheats, the EU,

erm... anti-abortion stuff,
arming the police,

all as self-styled "Sister Mel".

Ah. She's not a real nun, right?

She spent six months in a convent
in Wicklow in 2009, actually.

Ah. And the column ran
from when to when?

2015 to 2020,

but she also wrote
for pretty much every red-top

and also started popping up
on breakfast TV guest spots.

And when was that Boris Johnson
retweet, post thing?

October 2016.

SUNNY: Do we know
why she moved to Ireland?

No, just that she went there
in 2021.

OK, thanks, Fran. Right, shall we?
Mm.

Jesus.

What are you doing?
Eating a sandwich.

What are you doing here?
I didn't wanna go back.

You have to go back.

I really don't.
Yes, you do.

If you still hate it
at the end of this year,

then we can talk about moving you,
but right now,

I need you to just grow...
Was it you? Was what me?

Who killed Dad?

What?

Was it?

How can you even ask me that?
Well, you haven't said no.

No.

VOICE CRACKING: It wasn't me.

You don't seem that sure.

I'm very sure,

I'm just in shock
that you could even think that.

No. A thousand times, no.

No.

Have you told the police
about the row that night?

What row?

Do you think I don't remember?

I remember it all.
Very clearly, Mum.

It was just one of our rows.

OK? Nothing more.

I would never have hurt your father,
Tay, never.

But I do want you
to promise me something.

What?

I want you to promise me that
you will never mention that row,

or, in fact, any of the others
to the police.

Why?

Because they will almost certainly
come to all the wrong conclusions,

and it's... it's just not worth it.

Will you promise me that?

There's, erm...

There's...

..something I've never told you.

'So, thanks for taking the time
to speak to us.'

No problem at all.

'Can I dive straight in, Melinda,
and ask you how you knew Mr Cooper?'

Sure. Erm...

I met him initially
at a political thing he'd started.

This was UK United?
'Yes.'

So, when was that exactly?

Er, that would have been...
late 2015, I guess.

And you hit it off straight away?

Yeah, kind of.

We shared a similar outlook
on the world, sense of humour.

Neither of us were afraid
to call it as we saw it.

'And you became friends,
would you say?'

Yes. Briefly.
"Briefly"?

Yeah, we... ran into each other a
few times over the next few months.

I think I might have had a lunch
with him once.

Right. So it didn't develop
into anything more?

'Like what?'

Like a romantic relationship.
'No.'

Right. Because we spoke to a witness
who suggested it did.

What witness?

An old friend of his
who ran into you both

in a pub in Aldgate in 2020.

Well, that was then.

Sorry, I'm confused.
Are you saying that you did have

a relationship with him,
or you didn't?

Yes... I did.

A very brief one,
just not when you were saying.

My question didn't actually
specify a timeframe,

but that's... that's fine.

So, erm, spell it out
nice and clearly for us.

When did you two get together?

Erm... Summer of 2020,

just as things
were opening up again.

'And when you say "brief"...?'

'Erm, just a few weeks,
two months at the most.'

'And did his wife know about this?'

I've no idea.

'But you think you weren't
seeing him in February 2021?' No.

But you were still living
in the UK at this point?

Yes. 'So, when exactly
did you move to Ireland?'

Early March, 2021.

OK.

So, just a couple of weeks
after he disappeared.

I obviously had no idea about that.

You didn't know he'd gone missing?
No.

'So, when did you find out?'

A mutual friend told me
months later.

'How?'
Er, they messaged me, I think.

Hm. Can you forward that to us?

Er, actually, no. Wait, I... Er...

It might have been a call.

OK, er, well,
think we'll come back to that.

'And what prompted
the move to Ireland?'

Erm... I used to come
on holiday here as a kid.

My dad was born here.

I was feeling a bit burned out
from London,

and then when I got offered the job
with BNC,

I could do that from anywhere, so...
Change as good as a rest.

'And so when do you think was the
last time you might have seen him?'

Oh, maybe, erm...

October, November, 2020.

'So, this was just as your
relationship was coming to an end?'

Yes.
'And how did it end?'

Oh, just fizzled out, really.

'No rows?' No.
'No fights?'

No. 'Because we do have
a fair amount of evidence

'to suggest he could get violent.'

Not with me.
OK.

Erm... Were you aware of anyone

that you'd come into contact with
through him

who might have wanted
to do him harm?

'No. But, like I said, I didn't
actually know him that well.

'Our lives
weren't that intertwined.'

OK.

And if we needed to know where you
were on the 24th of February, 2021,

would you be able to provide us
with that information?

I could try.

'Any proof will do.'
Sure.

Obviously, you have our email.
'I do.'

OK. Anything else you'd like to add?

Anything else you think
might be relevant?

No.
'OK. Thanks so much for your time.'

You're so welcome.
You have a nice day.

'You too.'

So, he was violent to her, yeah?
100%.

This site.

OK, can everyone please
stop what they are doing

and stay exactly where they are.

We're officers of the
Immigration Enforcement Agency,

and we believe some of you
working here today

may be doing so illegally.

So, Martin Baines' phone...
Melinda Ricci emailed,

can't find the diaries
for that year. No way

Just calling it as she sees it.
Sorry, Murray, carry on.

Sorry. Martin Baines' phone records
show multiple calls to a landline

which has the same address
as the Three Crowns pub.

Also multiple texts to a Gerry,

which are very angry
and threatening in nature,

but weirdly,
they don't stop after the 24th.

Right. Although you'd do that
if you were covering your tracks.

Fair point.

Listen, we still need
to take a swab from him

for the assault in the car park,
can we get someone down there?

Yeah. I can sort.

And where are we
on Cooper's records?

So, we've obviously looked

at a fair amount
of his open source stuff.

He used a number of platforms.

Parler, Reddit, obviously Twitter.
X.

X.
And?

Endless fights on X,

very aggressive
and hate speech-y from him,

but, perhaps more significantly,
to him.

Any physical threats to him?
Dozens that we've found so far.

And death threats.
Mm-hm.

And the rows were about...?
Everything that you'd expect

from what we're now learning
about him.

Immigration, lockdown,
grooming gangs, vaccines.

It's gammon bingo.
Can't say that.

Emails and texts have just come in,
I'm getting them printed up.

Triangulation, still waiting on.

Man, I would love to have been
a fly on the wall in that house.

Well, the daughter was.

I mean, if this was
some sort of coercive,

toxic marriage that blew up...

she would have witnessed it, right?

She'd have certainly seen something.

I wonder if the school
would let us talk to her there?

Why don't we call?

Hey.
Hi.

Just, er...
Just wondered if you got my email.

Er, no. Sorry. Been a bit...

What did it say?

Er, the board want a meeting.
They...

They think they have a solution.

What solution?

Well, obviously, you're aware
that funding's on the floor

for the next five years anyway,
so, basically, erm...

..they want to offer you
early retirement.

Asif was a lovely guy.
Couldn't do enough for people.

And I presume that includes
the Dowari family? Absolutely.

In fact, I ran into him a few months
after he stopped working for us,

and he told me he was still
in contact with them,

still helping them, all pro bono.

Did you personally ever see him have
any interaction with Gerard Cooper?

A few times, yeah.
What was he like with him?

Always incredibly polite.

Very quietly spoken,
very diplomatic.

So, he never got wound up by him?
Not to his face, no.

How do you mean, "not to his face"?

I gave him a lift
to another rental one time,

it was on my way back to the office,
and he said back in his country,

in his village,
people like Cooper got dealt with.

What do you think he meant by that?
I don't know.

I just remember there was something
in his eyes when he said it

that sent a chill down my spine.

And the Dowaris,
can I speak to them?

If you can find them.

We moved them from Cooper's flat
to another in February 2021,

and then a few weeks later,
they just upped and left one night,

completely dropped out the system.

Specifically when
did they disappear?

February 28th, 2021.

Can I have that last address,
please?

For elimination purposes, I really
think we should swab Asif Syed.

On it.

So, these are text messages
from 2019 and 2020,

and you don't have to read too many
to realise that they were

quite clearly in a relationship
at this point.

"Hey. At work,
and can't stop replaying last night.

"Getting hard
just thinking about you.

"G. Kiss, kiss, kiss."
Yeah, last of the great charmers

That's, er, February 2020.
OK.

"Eurostar full.
How about we fly?

"J and T away with her mum
for the weekend,

"shall we play?"

That's April 2019.

So, we got emails going between them
from late 2018,

which is when the relationship
seemed to have started.

OK. So she flat-out lied.
Hm. Yeah.

It all seems to go sour,
sort of start of 2021.

My guess is that he knew
not to write down too much.

But I did find these three messages.

These are just from his side,
and these are from February 2021.

"Do not ignore me, Mel,
or you will regret it." Yeah.

"Mel, call me,

"we can still discuss the amount,
I am open to discussion."

And this last one
is from the 15th of February.

"If you make me lose everything
I have ever worked for,

"I swear to God,
I will fuck you up."

OK. So, these are blackmail threats.
From a person we know was violent.

Do you think they could have met?
Who?

Melinda and Juliet?

Wow.
Oh. It's just a thought.

OK, er...

One of us has to go over there,
and it can't be me.

OK.
Sorry.

Er, no, that's fine.
It's just... I... I, erm...

I still have stuff
going on at home, Sunny.

No, you don't have to explain.

I'm sorry. Because I know we...
You know, we both...

shared before, but, erm... it...

To be honest,
it is just so damn complicated,

I wouldn't even know where to begin.

Seriously, no worries at all.

But also, you know,
I'm here if you...

Thank you. Seriously.

Thank you.
OK. Right.

Erm... Sorry. Hey, Lee?
Hey, how you doing?

Yeah, all great, thanks.
Did you get my message?

Yeah, really sorry,
I've been mad busy, but, erm...

I'll call you.
Yeah, I...

No rush. Just... Yeah.
Yeah. Speak soon, then.

Er... Yeah. Yeah.
Sorry to interrupt.

PATIENT: So, what I was saying
is financially...

It'll just be ten seconds.

Alison said she needed to be here
if you spoke to me,

so where... where's Alison?

I didn't wanna get her all the way
down here just for a swab, Marty.

Oh, come on, love,
help the young lady out, huh?

Okey-dokey, pig in a pokey.

I-I... So, just give me a minute.

OK... Here we go.

Hey.
Hi.

Is Hassan not here?
He's not back from work yet.

Look, Asif. I've been thinking
about everything you said, and...

..I'm... I'm sorry.

I really am.

Asif... You cope so well.

You're so, so strong, that...

..I forget
what you've been through.

But, I mean, the truth is I...

I can't even begin to imagine
what it must have been like for you.

And I do completely understand
your anger.

And... Listen.

I wanna try and help.

Evening, sir.
Hello.

Is this your home?
Er, it is, yeah.

You're Samuel Collet?
Yes.

Mr Collet, my name is Officer Hughes

from the
Immigration Enforcement Unit.

I have a warrant
to search these premises

under Section 28D
of the Immigration Act 1971,

with regard to information
gained on an earlier raid today.

Are we OK to come in, please?

Yeah... Yeah, sure.

Enjoy your flight, sir.

Thanks.

Marty? Marty, come on.

Why have you double-locked the door,
Marty?

I just need to see Mum, sweetheart.
Please, let me in.

Marty.

I just need to see Mum's OK.

If you don't let me in,
I'll have to call the police.

OK, sure.

OK, do you wanna come through,
please, Mr Collet?

Why... Why is my partner still here?

Ah-ah-ah...
No, I've already explained to you.

It's got nothing to do with him,
it was all me.

This way.

OK, we've had a request from
a Bishop Street station in London

in connection
with another investigation.

They're asking if they could
get a swab from you today.

You OK with that?
Yes.

If you'd like to follow me,
then, please.

Yeah, it would just be
a general chat, really,

just about the events leading up
to her dad's disappearance.

Right.

Which, as I say,
for a number of reasons,

we would rather do
without her mum present.

'Is she...?'

I mean,
has Mrs Cooper been arrested?

No. Not yet.

'I'll need to take some advice on
this, can I call you right back?'

Yeah. OK. ASAP, please. Bye.

Sorry to disturb, guv.

Juliet Cooper's downstairs,
and she wants to speak to you.

Yesterday, my daughter told me

that about a week
before her dad went missing,

she'd come home from school

to find a young man
who'd worked for Gerry in our flat.

He'd obviously broken in somehow.

I was still at work,
Gerry was out at meetings,

meaning Taylor was alone with him.

And did she know him?

Yeah, she'd chatted to him
when he worked downstairs,

but she said he was very agitated
and very angry.

About?
Her dad.

Maybe me a bit.

And he told her
that he wanted to hurt her dad

like he thought Gerry had hurt him.

And how old was Taylor?

Eleven. My God, that must
have been terrifying for her.

It was.
And, so, what happened?

Well, she managed to convince him

that hurting her dad
would be a bad idea...

..and that
it would really upset her.

He said he didn't want to do that.

So then she made him
a glass of squash.

They chatted a bit more,

and after about 20 minutes,
he just left.

And why... why has she
never told you about this before?

She hadn't wanted
to get him into trouble.

She liked him.
She felt sorry for him, as do I.

Hence my slowness
in telling you this.

I know he went through
a really tough time in the pandemic.

Does she remember his name?

Yes.

It was Marty. Marty Baines.

OFFICER: Here.
Oh, no.

There's no-one
in either of the bedrooms.

Ambulance.

Medical assistance
required urgently, please. Dot?

Dot, can you hear me? Dot?

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