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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,020 --> 00:00:01,980 LINGLEY: Emfleet Nick just called, 2 00:00:01,980 --> 00:00:03,820 they've got suspected human remains 3 00:00:03,820 --> 00:00:04,980 found in Whitney Marsh. 4 00:00:04,980 --> 00:00:07,980 My guess is this body was put in there already dismembered. 5 00:00:07,980 --> 00:00:11,500 JESS: To what do I owe this? I just thought you'd... like it. 6 00:00:11,500 --> 00:00:13,980 Why did my husband cook me sea bass? 7 00:00:13,980 --> 00:00:16,980 So you now just attack random girls for literally no reason at all? 8 00:00:16,980 --> 00:00:19,980 She made a joke about you and Dad. Sorry, Dad. 9 00:00:19,980 --> 00:00:21,980 And happy birthday. 10 00:00:21,980 --> 00:00:23,820 I'm getting stronger every day. 11 00:00:23,820 --> 00:00:25,980 So he will never walk unaided? Come on. 12 00:00:25,980 --> 00:00:28,020 HASSAN: I have a watertight case. 13 00:00:28,020 --> 00:00:31,820 Given my story, I can prove that I will be killed if I went back. 14 00:00:32,980 --> 00:00:36,980 SUNNY: We have a match. So, his name is Gerard Samuel Cooper. 15 00:00:36,980 --> 00:00:40,660 The OIC on the case was actually jailed in 2022. 16 00:00:40,660 --> 00:00:44,980 A guy that I charged myself, a guy called Ram Sidhu. 17 00:00:54,980 --> 00:00:57,980 # All we do is hide away 18 00:00:58,980 --> 00:01:01,980 # All we do is All we do is hide away 19 00:01:01,980 --> 00:01:04,980 # All we do is lie and wait 20 00:01:06,980 --> 00:01:09,980 # All we do is All we do is lie and wait 21 00:01:09,980 --> 00:01:13,980 # I've been upside down 22 00:01:13,980 --> 00:01:17,980 # I don't wanna be The right way round 23 00:01:17,980 --> 00:01:20,980 # Can't find paradise on the ground 24 00:01:40,980 --> 00:01:43,340 Like I said, I don't know this guy personally, 25 00:01:43,340 --> 00:01:44,980 but everyone says he's fine. 26 00:01:45,980 --> 00:01:48,980 So as long as you work hard and do the job, 27 00:01:48,980 --> 00:01:50,980 he's not interested in anything else. 28 00:01:52,980 --> 00:01:55,980 You finish at five today, OK? I'll be waiting for you here. 29 00:01:57,980 --> 00:02:00,980 Thank you. Have a good day, my friend. 30 00:02:21,980 --> 00:02:26,340 'Question 15: how many royal parks are there in London?' 31 00:02:27,980 --> 00:02:31,980 So, he was identified through comparison with a DNA swab taken 32 00:02:31,980 --> 00:02:35,660 after he was charged with a Section 47 ABH 33 00:02:35,660 --> 00:02:38,820 on July 16th 2019. 34 00:02:38,820 --> 00:02:39,980 All of his files are on COMPACT, 35 00:02:39,980 --> 00:02:43,980 and a quick squint suggests they thought he had fallen into debt 36 00:02:43,980 --> 00:02:45,500 during the pandemic. 37 00:02:45,500 --> 00:02:47,980 His car was found parked near the Elizabeth Bridge 38 00:02:47,980 --> 00:02:50,980 two weeks after he was reported missing by his wife, 39 00:02:50,980 --> 00:02:52,980 who we will be speaking to asap. 40 00:02:52,980 --> 00:02:55,980 We will also be speaking to DCI Ram Sidhu, 41 00:02:55,980 --> 00:02:57,980 the original investigating officer. 42 00:02:58,980 --> 00:03:00,980 So, right now, 43 00:03:00,980 --> 00:03:03,980 I need all the original investigation paperwork 44 00:03:03,980 --> 00:03:05,980 inputted into HOLMES, please. Yeah. 45 00:03:05,980 --> 00:03:08,980 Ditto with the 2019 assault. Guv. 46 00:03:08,980 --> 00:03:12,980 And can we check who maintains Whitney Marsh Car Park CCTV, 47 00:03:12,980 --> 00:03:14,980 how long they keep their video files? 48 00:03:14,980 --> 00:03:17,980 And if there's any data entry at the car park 49 00:03:17,980 --> 00:03:20,980 or pay online facilities? Sure. On it. 50 00:03:20,980 --> 00:03:23,500 OK, that's it for now, guys. Thanks, guys. 51 00:03:48,980 --> 00:03:50,980 You told me to tell them to shove it up their arse. 52 00:03:50,980 --> 00:03:53,980 Of course I didn't tell them that. So what did you say? 53 00:03:53,980 --> 00:03:57,980 That you were considering their request. Fuck sake! 54 00:03:58,980 --> 00:04:00,820 It's the union, Jules, 55 00:04:00,820 --> 00:04:02,980 it's not a good idea to back them into a corner. 56 00:04:02,980 --> 00:04:05,980 And it doesn't scare you that even soft soaping them, 57 00:04:05,980 --> 00:04:07,980 dishonestly, as it happens, 58 00:04:07,980 --> 00:04:10,980 even that merest hint of dissent 59 00:04:10,980 --> 00:04:13,980 has caused my board to be daubed with "racist"? 60 00:04:13,980 --> 00:04:16,980 Ah, it's obviously not ideal, but... 61 00:04:16,980 --> 00:04:17,980 But what? 62 00:04:20,980 --> 00:04:22,500 They effectively pay our salaries. 63 00:04:22,500 --> 00:04:24,980 Oh, well, yeah, 64 00:04:24,980 --> 00:04:27,980 and what a catastrophic fucking mistake that was. 65 00:04:27,980 --> 00:04:30,980 We're now all in the thrall of sodding children. 66 00:04:30,980 --> 00:04:33,980 I mean, think back to when you were 21. 67 00:04:33,980 --> 00:04:36,980 Yes, exactly. 68 00:04:38,980 --> 00:04:40,980 I mean, seriously, Paul, 69 00:04:40,980 --> 00:04:43,820 they don't understand real life yet, 70 00:04:43,820 --> 00:04:45,980 with all its shit compromises and... 71 00:04:45,980 --> 00:04:47,980 and messy, imperfect solutions. 72 00:04:47,980 --> 00:04:52,980 And surely... part of our job is to teach them about that. 73 00:04:55,980 --> 00:04:58,980 It's just an online course. It'll only takes a few hours. 74 00:05:01,020 --> 00:05:03,020 Isn't it just easier to say yes? 75 00:05:11,980 --> 00:05:13,980 You know what, it actually isn't. 76 00:05:15,340 --> 00:05:16,980 Because what will it be next? 77 00:05:16,980 --> 00:05:20,980 It's also not fair to us, sure, 78 00:05:20,980 --> 00:05:23,980 but much more importantly, it's not fair to them. 79 00:05:29,980 --> 00:05:32,980 Marty. Marty! 80 00:05:32,980 --> 00:05:33,980 Martin! 81 00:05:36,980 --> 00:05:40,820 Marty, please. I need to go toilet. 82 00:05:41,980 --> 00:05:45,980 Pickle! Mummy needs to wee-wee! 83 00:05:49,980 --> 00:05:50,980 How bad? 84 00:05:50,980 --> 00:05:52,980 Very bad. 85 00:05:53,980 --> 00:05:55,980 And what makes you think it's getting any worse? 86 00:05:56,980 --> 00:05:59,660 Everything. 87 00:05:59,660 --> 00:06:01,980 And when you say "everything"? 88 00:06:01,980 --> 00:06:06,180 My dad... Mr Cooper... that place. 89 00:06:07,980 --> 00:06:09,980 The pub? 90 00:06:09,980 --> 00:06:10,980 And if I had a girlfriend... 91 00:06:10,980 --> 00:06:14,020 So, maybe we can up your dose to 100mg. 92 00:06:14,020 --> 00:06:15,980 I have the right to have a girlfriend and... 93 00:06:15,980 --> 00:06:18,020 We're not going down that rabbit hole again, Marty. 94 00:06:18,020 --> 00:06:20,980 Women can get a boyfriend whenever they want, so... 95 00:06:20,980 --> 00:06:22,980 No woman has the right to have a boyfriend, 96 00:06:22,980 --> 00:06:24,340 no man has the right to have a girlfriend, 97 00:06:24,340 --> 00:06:25,980 we've been through this too many times. 98 00:06:25,980 --> 00:06:28,820 I'm just so tired of it. 99 00:06:30,980 --> 00:06:32,980 Not understanding anything. 100 00:06:34,980 --> 00:06:35,980 I know, mate. 101 00:06:37,980 --> 00:06:39,980 What did I do wrong, Dr Renfield? 102 00:06:45,180 --> 00:06:48,980 You didn't do anything wrong, Marty. And it's certainly not your fault. 103 00:06:48,980 --> 00:06:52,980 Life is just... unfair sometimes. 104 00:06:53,980 --> 00:06:57,980 So, I'm going to up your Sertraline to 100mg, 105 00:06:57,980 --> 00:07:00,980 and I'm gonna refer you to a new autism service 106 00:07:00,980 --> 00:07:02,980 being set up by Kent Council. 107 00:07:02,980 --> 00:07:04,980 I should say that it might take a year or so 108 00:07:04,980 --> 00:07:06,980 to get an appointment, er... 109 00:07:06,980 --> 00:07:08,980 they're a bit snowed under right now. 110 00:07:10,980 --> 00:07:11,980 So, we'll... 111 00:07:13,340 --> 00:07:14,980 ..see each other in three months? 112 00:07:17,980 --> 00:07:22,500 I should say, raising the dose might give you some side effects, Marty. 113 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:25,980 Call us immediately if you start to have any trouble sleeping, 114 00:07:25,980 --> 00:07:28,180 if you feel more anxious, if you have any violent... 115 00:07:28,180 --> 00:07:29,980 Dr Renfield? Marty. 116 00:07:32,180 --> 00:07:35,980 Duncan. Do you wanna come through? 117 00:08:13,980 --> 00:08:15,980 Hey. Hey. 118 00:08:18,500 --> 00:08:20,980 I heard... Paddy was struggling. 119 00:08:20,980 --> 00:08:22,980 Yeah, yeah, he's not brilliant. 120 00:08:24,180 --> 00:08:26,020 Oh, Mel, I'm so sorry. 121 00:08:29,980 --> 00:08:32,980 You wanna... talk things over? 122 00:09:16,660 --> 00:09:21,980 So, we only have one session with this guy. 123 00:09:21,980 --> 00:09:24,980 But he basically tells us 124 00:09:24,980 --> 00:09:27,980 what sort of therapist he thinks we need. 125 00:09:28,980 --> 00:09:33,660 So, see a therapist to see what kind of therapist we need. 126 00:09:33,660 --> 00:09:34,980 Yeah. 127 00:09:35,980 --> 00:09:37,980 Bit nuts, I know. You certainly are. 128 00:09:37,980 --> 00:09:39,980 Oi. 129 00:10:40,340 --> 00:10:41,980 I'm sorry. 130 00:10:48,980 --> 00:10:50,980 Wanna get a drink? 131 00:10:53,660 --> 00:10:56,980 And I've... I've just asked for the search to be widened, so... 132 00:10:57,980 --> 00:11:02,180 ..it may yet be that we do... find more of him. 133 00:11:02,180 --> 00:11:04,340 How could someone do that... 134 00:11:08,660 --> 00:11:11,980 ..to another human being? How could someone do such a terrible thing? 135 00:11:12,980 --> 00:11:14,980 It's pretty much always about disposal. 136 00:11:16,660 --> 00:11:19,980 If it doesn't sound too absurd, it's generally not personal. 137 00:11:21,660 --> 00:11:24,980 TEARFULLY: Oh, my God, how am I gonna tell my daughter? 138 00:11:30,020 --> 00:11:33,980 And where was it you said you found him? Whitney Marsh? 139 00:11:40,180 --> 00:11:41,980 I always knew he hadn't jumped. 140 00:11:42,980 --> 00:11:44,500 In here.... 141 00:11:45,980 --> 00:11:49,980 ..I always knew, and I told them, I told them so many times. 142 00:11:49,980 --> 00:11:51,340 The original investigation? 143 00:11:51,340 --> 00:11:54,980 I told them I thought his death had probably been violent. 144 00:11:54,980 --> 00:11:56,980 OK, can I ask why you thought that? 145 00:11:58,980 --> 00:11:59,980 Because of the money. 146 00:12:01,980 --> 00:12:04,980 OK, sorry, can we just... 147 00:12:04,980 --> 00:12:06,340 can we just backtrack a minute? 148 00:12:07,980 --> 00:12:09,980 MAN: 'Women don't even like that shit, bro. 149 00:12:09,980 --> 00:12:11,980 'They like to know who's boss, innit?' 150 00:12:11,980 --> 00:12:13,980 'They like a strong man, 151 00:12:13,980 --> 00:12:15,500 'that's just fuckin' nature.' 152 00:12:15,500 --> 00:12:17,980 MAN: 'Smack them bitches up, man. They're gonna love you more.' 153 00:12:18,980 --> 00:12:21,980 Hang on one second, dudes. 154 00:12:26,980 --> 00:12:28,980 Hello, Marty, how are we today? 155 00:12:28,980 --> 00:12:30,980 Fine, thank you for asking. 156 00:12:34,980 --> 00:12:38,500 He took on the lease of a pub in Stepney in 2014. 157 00:12:39,980 --> 00:12:41,980 His uncle had managed it in the '80s, 158 00:12:41,980 --> 00:12:43,980 and it was a bit of a home from home for Gerry. 159 00:12:47,980 --> 00:12:49,020 So, that was his main job, 160 00:12:49,020 --> 00:12:51,820 but we also had three rental properties. 161 00:12:51,820 --> 00:12:53,660 These where flats, or...? No, HMOs. 162 00:12:53,660 --> 00:12:55,980 Two had seven rooms, one had five. 163 00:12:55,980 --> 00:12:57,980 It was quite a lot of work, and... 164 00:12:57,980 --> 00:13:01,980 and we also had fairly large mortgages on all three buildings. 165 00:13:01,980 --> 00:13:03,980 You had to be on top of tenancies and payments. 166 00:13:03,980 --> 00:13:05,980 Sorry, you did this with him, or...? 167 00:13:05,980 --> 00:13:08,980 No, no, I work at Central London University. Oh, right. 168 00:13:08,980 --> 00:13:09,980 As...? 169 00:13:09,980 --> 00:13:12,980 A lecturer, modern history. Oh, OK, I'm sorry, carry on. 170 00:13:12,980 --> 00:13:16,820 Yeah, so, things were pretty tight, 171 00:13:16,820 --> 00:13:18,980 but absolutely manageable. 172 00:13:18,980 --> 00:13:22,980 And the first five years or so in Stepney were great. 173 00:13:22,980 --> 00:13:25,980 Gerry had grown up near there, in Bow, and he just... 174 00:13:25,980 --> 00:13:28,500 he just dived back into that life. 175 00:13:28,500 --> 00:13:30,980 Lots of local community stuff and... 176 00:13:33,180 --> 00:13:34,980 ..yeah, he really loved it. 177 00:13:38,980 --> 00:13:40,980 And then the pandemic happened, 178 00:13:40,980 --> 00:13:43,980 and it was just like a perfect storm. 179 00:13:43,980 --> 00:13:46,980 Obviously, the pub had to shut, so that revenue went. 180 00:13:46,980 --> 00:13:49,980 And then the tenants, one-by-one, stopped paying their rent, 181 00:13:49,980 --> 00:13:53,980 so we... we basically just got deeper and deeper into debt, 182 00:13:53,980 --> 00:13:56,980 which is when he, without telling me, 183 00:13:56,980 --> 00:14:00,980 I should say... spoke to a friend of a friend of a friend 184 00:14:00,980 --> 00:14:03,820 and started borrowing money from people he really shouldn't have. 185 00:14:03,820 --> 00:14:04,980 Moneylenders. 186 00:14:04,980 --> 00:14:06,980 That makes them sound much more respectable than they were, 187 00:14:06,980 --> 00:14:08,980 I think they were basically gangsters. OK. 188 00:14:08,980 --> 00:14:10,980 And how did you find out about them? 189 00:14:12,980 --> 00:14:15,980 So, he was attacked... 190 00:14:15,980 --> 00:14:17,980 early February 2021, 191 00:14:17,980 --> 00:14:19,980 as he was putting the bins out one night. 192 00:14:19,980 --> 00:14:22,980 OK. And you think by one of them? Yeah, I do. 193 00:14:22,980 --> 00:14:24,980 And did he say it was by one of them? 194 00:14:24,980 --> 00:14:25,980 No, but at that stage, 195 00:14:25,980 --> 00:14:27,980 I still didn't know he'd borrowed any money, so... 196 00:14:27,980 --> 00:14:30,980 And how badly hurt was he? Well, they didn't break anything. 197 00:14:30,980 --> 00:14:32,980 Probably too clever for that, but he was knocked out. 198 00:14:32,980 --> 00:14:36,980 And you went to the police? I called them, yeah. And? 199 00:14:39,980 --> 00:14:41,980 Well, Gerry was obviously not that helpful. 200 00:14:41,980 --> 00:14:43,020 In hindsight, he was probably scared, 201 00:14:43,020 --> 00:14:45,820 so, I mean, the police had very little to go on. 202 00:14:45,820 --> 00:14:47,980 And it was only after we rowed about that 203 00:14:47,980 --> 00:14:49,980 that he FINALLY told me what was going on. 204 00:14:49,980 --> 00:14:51,980 OK. And how much did he owe them? 205 00:14:51,980 --> 00:14:54,980 By that point, he said it was about ยฃ17,000. 206 00:14:54,980 --> 00:14:56,980 And did you ever get any names of these people? 207 00:14:58,980 --> 00:15:00,980 I think I only ever met one of them once. 208 00:15:00,980 --> 00:15:04,500 Some guy called Markaj came to the pub, asking for Gerry, 209 00:15:04,500 --> 00:15:05,980 five days after the attack. 210 00:15:05,980 --> 00:15:06,980 Markaj. Yeah. 211 00:15:06,980 --> 00:15:09,980 Looked and sounded Mediterranean. I think... 212 00:15:11,980 --> 00:15:13,980 Gerry said they were Albanian. OK. 213 00:15:13,980 --> 00:15:18,980 So... can you talk us through what happened 214 00:15:18,980 --> 00:15:19,980 the day he disappeared? 215 00:15:23,980 --> 00:15:27,660 Can I just take a break? I need to check on my daughter. 216 00:15:27,660 --> 00:15:29,980 Yeah. Yeah, of course. 217 00:16:15,980 --> 00:16:17,980 MELINDA: You think you have everything mapped out. 218 00:16:18,980 --> 00:16:20,980 You can see the next 20... 219 00:16:21,980 --> 00:16:23,820 ..30 years. 220 00:16:24,980 --> 00:16:26,980 And then out of nowhere... 221 00:16:28,820 --> 00:16:30,980 ..this thing happens, and it shifts everything... 222 00:16:32,980 --> 00:16:33,980 ..forever. 223 00:16:46,980 --> 00:16:49,500 I'm so sorry, I have to take this. It's my producer. 224 00:16:50,340 --> 00:16:51,980 Er... Yeah. 225 00:16:54,980 --> 00:16:56,980 Gabe? 'Mel.' 226 00:16:56,980 --> 00:16:58,980 Sending you an article from the Express for your next piece. 227 00:16:58,980 --> 00:17:00,980 'Gabe?' Ciao. 228 00:17:06,180 --> 00:17:08,820 And are you managing to get into the shower, Dot? 229 00:17:08,820 --> 00:17:11,660 Yeah, yeah. Yeah? Yeah. 230 00:17:11,660 --> 00:17:14,980 How'd you do that, then, if you find it hard using your walker? 231 00:17:14,980 --> 00:17:18,180 Does Marty help you? Yes, yes, he helps me. 232 00:17:18,180 --> 00:17:20,980 And how did you get that bruise on your face? 233 00:17:20,980 --> 00:17:25,020 She slipped, silly-billy... as I got her out of the shower. 234 00:17:25,020 --> 00:17:27,980 Oh, dear. 235 00:17:27,980 --> 00:17:28,980 Yeah. 236 00:17:28,980 --> 00:17:31,980 Dotty old Dot! 237 00:17:32,980 --> 00:17:34,980 Marty? 238 00:17:34,980 --> 00:17:38,660 Do you wanna have a quick sit down? Cos I just need a quick chat. 239 00:17:42,980 --> 00:17:45,500 So, look, as I've said before, 240 00:17:45,500 --> 00:17:48,340 and I really do feel this strongly now... 241 00:17:48,340 --> 00:17:52,980 I'm not sure Mum's being looked after as well as she needs, Marty. 242 00:17:52,980 --> 00:17:55,980 She's fine. Aren't you, Mum? 243 00:17:55,980 --> 00:17:56,980 Yes, I'm fine. 244 00:17:56,980 --> 00:18:00,980 Well, I'm not completely sure you are, my love, so... 245 00:18:00,980 --> 00:18:02,980 I'd like to speak to social services... 246 00:18:02,980 --> 00:18:05,980 No. ..and get them to come and do a proper assessment. 247 00:18:05,980 --> 00:18:06,980 I'm not going into a home. 248 00:18:06,980 --> 00:18:08,980 We just need to make sure you're safe, Dot. 249 00:18:08,980 --> 00:18:11,980 I can't leave him on his own. 250 00:18:11,980 --> 00:18:13,980 He-He... He can't cope. CHANTS: Mum, Mum, Mum... 251 00:18:13,980 --> 00:18:17,980 Look, all we need is some more help here. 252 00:18:24,980 --> 00:18:27,020 Cheese and pickle do you? Yeah! 253 00:18:29,980 --> 00:18:31,660 It's all right. 254 00:18:31,660 --> 00:18:32,980 It's all right, Marty. It's all right. 255 00:18:32,980 --> 00:18:34,660 Ssh, ssh, ssh, ssh, ssh, ssh, ssh. 256 00:18:35,980 --> 00:18:38,820 The 24th was our wedding anniversary, 257 00:18:38,820 --> 00:18:41,020 and we were meant to be having a meal together later that evening. 258 00:18:42,020 --> 00:18:44,980 It's OK, take your time. 259 00:18:44,980 --> 00:18:47,980 I got back from work at about six... 260 00:18:48,980 --> 00:18:50,980 ..made Taylor her tea, 261 00:18:50,980 --> 00:18:52,980 and then she went upstairs to do some homework... 262 00:18:52,980 --> 00:18:54,980 Sorry, you lived here then? 263 00:18:54,980 --> 00:18:56,980 No, I bought this place after he died. 264 00:18:56,980 --> 00:18:59,340 We were living above the pub in 2021, 265 00:18:59,340 --> 00:19:02,340 we had a... a two-floor flat there. Oh, OK, right. 266 00:19:02,340 --> 00:19:05,980 So, erm... 267 00:19:05,980 --> 00:19:09,980 Taylor went upstairs, and I started cooking for myself and Gerry. 268 00:19:09,980 --> 00:19:11,980 I'd expected him at about 6:30, 269 00:19:11,980 --> 00:19:16,980 and then when he hadn't turned up by 7:30, I started to call him. 270 00:19:16,980 --> 00:19:19,980 Over the next four or five hours, I called multiple times. 271 00:19:19,980 --> 00:19:22,980 I called his friends, his family. 272 00:19:22,980 --> 00:19:23,980 Then I checked his diary and saw 273 00:19:23,980 --> 00:19:26,980 he was meant to be having a meeting with a colleague from the brewery, 274 00:19:26,980 --> 00:19:28,980 so I rang her. 275 00:19:28,980 --> 00:19:30,980 And she said he'd rung half an hour 276 00:19:30,980 --> 00:19:36,180 before their meeting at four to cancel, which was very unlike Ger. 277 00:19:36,180 --> 00:19:38,980 And where was the meeting? Winchester. 278 00:19:38,980 --> 00:19:41,980 And then eventually, at about midnight, I called the police. 279 00:19:41,980 --> 00:19:43,980 And what was their response? 280 00:19:43,980 --> 00:19:45,500 They just assumed we'd had a row 281 00:19:45,500 --> 00:19:47,980 and that he'd turn up at some point tomorrow, 282 00:19:47,980 --> 00:19:52,980 even though I told them that that wasn't... him... 283 00:19:52,980 --> 00:19:53,980 that wasn't us. 284 00:19:55,820 --> 00:19:58,980 I called again the following day, out of my mind now with worry, 285 00:19:58,980 --> 00:20:00,180 and finally, that night, 286 00:20:00,180 --> 00:20:01,980 two officers came and took a statement. 287 00:20:01,980 --> 00:20:05,980 And you told them about the assault and the loan sharks? 288 00:20:05,980 --> 00:20:07,980 Yes, of course. 289 00:20:07,980 --> 00:20:10,980 And... And what was their reaction to that? 290 00:20:12,980 --> 00:20:15,980 After there was no credit card spending or phone use, 291 00:20:15,980 --> 00:20:17,980 they said they were upgrading him to high risk 292 00:20:17,980 --> 00:20:19,660 and that they were putting resources into it, 293 00:20:19,660 --> 00:20:21,980 but my sense was their investigation was... 294 00:20:21,980 --> 00:20:23,980 always perfunctory, at best. 295 00:20:23,980 --> 00:20:26,020 So they thought, what, he'd... just walked out? 296 00:20:26,020 --> 00:20:29,020 Until they found his car near the Elizabeth Bridge. 297 00:20:29,020 --> 00:20:30,980 And then they decided, 298 00:20:30,980 --> 00:20:33,020 with a third UK lockdown beckoning, that he'd jumped. 299 00:20:33,020 --> 00:20:34,980 But you never believed that? 300 00:20:34,980 --> 00:20:35,980 His car was by that bridge 301 00:20:35,980 --> 00:20:38,980 because one of our rentals is a hundred yards from there, so no. 302 00:20:38,980 --> 00:20:40,980 And then nine months later, I saw the officer 303 00:20:40,980 --> 00:20:43,340 who led the investigation was charged with corruption... 304 00:20:43,340 --> 00:20:45,980 Yeah, and I-I should say we are very sorry for that. 305 00:20:45,980 --> 00:20:48,980 And I asked for the case to be re-opened, but nothing happened. 306 00:20:48,980 --> 00:20:50,980 So, no, they didn't exactly inspire me with confidence. 307 00:20:50,980 --> 00:20:52,980 No, I can imagine. 308 00:20:52,980 --> 00:20:53,980 But... 309 00:20:53,980 --> 00:20:56,980 Listen. Could we maybe pick this up tomorrow? 310 00:20:56,980 --> 00:20:58,980 I really think I need to be with my daughter now. 311 00:20:59,980 --> 00:21:03,180 Of course. Yeah. We're only over in Euston. 312 00:21:03,180 --> 00:21:04,980 It would be great if it were tomorrow. 313 00:21:04,980 --> 00:21:06,980 I'm in the office all day. 314 00:21:11,980 --> 00:21:13,180 MARTY: Doreen? 315 00:21:15,980 --> 00:21:16,980 Doreen? 316 00:21:19,980 --> 00:21:20,980 Doreen? 317 00:21:21,980 --> 00:21:25,980 I-I'm going to get a job so we can pay for more help at home. 318 00:21:25,980 --> 00:21:29,980 You don't need to get a job, Marty, you won't have to pay for anything. 319 00:21:29,980 --> 00:21:32,980 Don't take her away, though. We like it how it is. 320 00:21:32,980 --> 00:21:35,980 We just need to make sure you're both safe, Marty. 321 00:21:35,980 --> 00:21:37,980 Well, I like it here. I know. 322 00:21:37,980 --> 00:21:40,980 I've always liked it here. Of course you have. 323 00:21:40,980 --> 00:21:42,340 Mum likes it here, too. 324 00:21:42,340 --> 00:21:45,020 Well... A-A-And we need each other. 325 00:21:46,980 --> 00:21:49,820 Go on inside, or you'll catch a death. 326 00:22:03,980 --> 00:22:06,980 Thanks so much. Taylor not at school today? 327 00:22:07,980 --> 00:22:09,980 She wasn't feeling too well. 328 00:22:09,980 --> 00:22:12,980 Call me as soon as you know your movements. Will do. 329 00:22:12,980 --> 00:22:14,820 I hope it goes OK with her. 330 00:22:16,980 --> 00:22:17,980 Thank you. 331 00:22:36,980 --> 00:22:38,980 What are you thinking? 332 00:22:38,980 --> 00:22:41,980 I'm thinking... that's a very nice house. 333 00:22:41,980 --> 00:22:45,980 I'm thinking the kid's at a 25K-a-year school. 334 00:22:45,980 --> 00:22:46,980 Thinking life insurance. 335 00:23:55,980 --> 00:23:58,180 Get out. What? 336 00:23:58,180 --> 00:24:02,660 Get out, walk back over there, and apologise. 337 00:24:02,660 --> 00:24:04,820 You are joking. Now! 338 00:24:04,820 --> 00:24:07,980 This is not fair, Asif. Life's not fair, mate. 339 00:24:09,980 --> 00:24:11,340 If it was, my brother would still be alive. 340 00:24:12,980 --> 00:24:16,980 Now go back over there... and apologise. 341 00:24:35,980 --> 00:24:37,980 Killed by who? 342 00:24:37,980 --> 00:24:41,980 Well, that's what they're now gonna try to find out, sweetie. 343 00:24:46,980 --> 00:24:47,980 Where was he found? 344 00:24:47,980 --> 00:24:51,980 In a place called Whitney Marsh, it's about 15 miles east of here. 345 00:24:54,980 --> 00:24:58,980 And... what did they find, just like a skeleton? 346 00:24:58,980 --> 00:25:00,980 Yeah, sort of, I guess. 347 00:25:00,980 --> 00:25:03,980 I don't really have the details on that yet. 348 00:25:07,980 --> 00:25:08,980 Are you sure it's him? 349 00:25:09,980 --> 00:25:13,980 They did a DNA comparison test. It's definitely him. 350 00:25:22,980 --> 00:25:23,980 How did he die? 351 00:25:25,980 --> 00:25:27,820 How was he...? 352 00:25:27,820 --> 00:25:29,500 They're not sure yet. 353 00:25:33,980 --> 00:25:35,980 It's OK to cry... 354 00:25:37,020 --> 00:25:38,980 ..sweetheart, to be angry. 355 00:25:38,980 --> 00:25:40,980 You scream and shout if you want. 356 00:25:43,980 --> 00:25:45,980 Just always thought it was me. 357 00:25:45,980 --> 00:25:47,980 What was you? 358 00:25:50,980 --> 00:25:52,020 Why he jumped. 359 00:25:54,980 --> 00:25:56,980 I just, erm... 360 00:25:56,980 --> 00:25:58,980 I thought he mustn't have liked me enough to stay around. 361 00:25:58,980 --> 00:26:01,980 Oh, my God, no. 362 00:26:01,980 --> 00:26:03,980 He would never have thought that, 363 00:26:03,980 --> 00:26:07,980 even if that had been how he died, he adored you. 364 00:26:07,980 --> 00:26:09,980 Tay, you were his life. 365 00:26:17,980 --> 00:26:19,340 Tay? It's fine. 366 00:26:19,340 --> 00:26:21,980 It's fine. I'm fine. I've got homework to do. 367 00:26:27,980 --> 00:26:30,660 OK. Not too long on that, boys, OK? 368 00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:28,020 DEBBIE: 'Hey?' 369 00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:32,980 Jessie? 370 00:27:36,980 --> 00:27:37,980 Hey. 371 00:27:39,980 --> 00:27:43,660 Hello. How are you? 372 00:27:45,980 --> 00:27:47,180 'I've missed you so much.' 373 00:27:51,180 --> 00:27:53,980 I just was calling to see if, erm... 374 00:27:54,980 --> 00:27:57,980 ..if maybe we could meet up, just the two of us, to talk? 375 00:28:00,660 --> 00:28:01,980 I'd like that. 376 00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:06,980 OK, I'll text you some dates. 377 00:28:06,980 --> 00:28:10,020 Thank you. 'And maybe don't, erm...' 378 00:28:11,980 --> 00:28:14,980 ..don't say anything to Mum just yet. 379 00:28:14,980 --> 00:28:17,980 Of course, whatever you want. 380 00:28:17,980 --> 00:28:19,980 OK. Bye. 381 00:28:29,980 --> 00:28:32,980 So, I'm... So, I'm sitting at the bar, OK, 382 00:28:32,980 --> 00:28:35,980 and she's already 15, 20 minutes late by this point. 383 00:28:35,980 --> 00:28:38,340 And I look, and I see her walk in, 384 00:28:38,340 --> 00:28:40,980 and I sort of raise my hand, and she sees me. 385 00:28:40,980 --> 00:28:44,340 And then I actually see her eyes narrow 386 00:28:44,340 --> 00:28:46,980 in a kind of "hm, not sure" narrow... 387 00:28:46,980 --> 00:28:48,980 No, stop it. ..you know what I mean? 388 00:28:48,980 --> 00:28:51,660 So, I'm sitting there, I'm smiling and stuff, 389 00:28:51,660 --> 00:28:53,500 and I watch her walking over. 390 00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:57,980 And I stand up ready to kind of shake hands, or kiss, whatever. 391 00:28:57,980 --> 00:29:01,980 And except about ten feet away, she suddenly stops. 392 00:29:01,980 --> 00:29:04,340 And, you know, I say hi and put my hand out, 393 00:29:04,340 --> 00:29:07,500 and she just looked at me and goes... 394 00:29:08,660 --> 00:29:09,980 "..Nah." No way! 395 00:29:09,980 --> 00:29:12,820 I promise you, and then turns around and walks out. 396 00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:15,020 Stop it. No, I promise you. She just... 397 00:29:15,020 --> 00:29:18,660 "Nah." Oh, my God. 398 00:29:18,660 --> 00:29:20,980 LAUGHING: And I'm kind of like... 399 00:29:20,980 --> 00:29:23,980 not even a kind of like "Oh, you know, you're too short, 400 00:29:23,980 --> 00:29:27,980 "you're too old, you're too brown," nothing, just, "Nah." 401 00:29:27,980 --> 00:29:30,660 And then.... And... And I don't know why, Lee, 402 00:29:30,660 --> 00:29:33,980 but that was the moment I decided to stop online dating. 403 00:29:33,980 --> 00:29:35,980 Yes, well, you know, good for you. 404 00:29:35,980 --> 00:29:38,980 Well, thank you very much. Good decision, I think. 405 00:29:38,980 --> 00:29:39,980 I think so. 406 00:29:53,980 --> 00:29:55,980 Jesus, what... Yeah. 407 00:29:55,980 --> 00:29:58,980 What is it? 20 pages, 30? 408 00:29:58,980 --> 00:30:00,980 24, including two blank sheets. 409 00:30:00,980 --> 00:30:03,980 So how long did DCI Sidhu get? 410 00:30:03,980 --> 00:30:05,980 Not long enough. 411 00:30:05,980 --> 00:30:07,980 Anyway, I've asked Fran to go through it, 412 00:30:07,980 --> 00:30:09,980 and I thought we could do a briefing with the entire team 413 00:30:09,980 --> 00:30:11,980 straight after this? Yeah. Cool. 414 00:30:17,980 --> 00:30:20,500 Thanks for coming in. Can I get you a coffee? 415 00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:21,820 Would you like a coffee? 416 00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:23,820 JULIET: White, please, no sugar. Black, please. 417 00:30:23,820 --> 00:30:26,180 How you doing? All right, thanks. 418 00:30:26,180 --> 00:30:27,980 MELINDA: 'So that's it from me. 419 00:30:27,980 --> 00:30:31,980 'Until tomorrow, good luck, good night, and blah, blah, blah.' 420 00:30:31,980 --> 00:30:34,180 Sounds very much to me like you're trying to get our audience 421 00:30:34,180 --> 00:30:35,980 to panic a bit there, Mel. 422 00:30:35,980 --> 00:30:38,980 'No.' Sounded a little bit Net Zero, if I'm honest. 423 00:30:38,980 --> 00:30:40,980 Well, I guess when you've got hospitals in Southern Spain 424 00:30:40,980 --> 00:30:42,980 where half the beds in the burns unit are occupied 425 00:30:42,980 --> 00:30:46,180 by people whose feet got burned by the pavement, Gabe, then, yeah... 426 00:30:46,180 --> 00:30:48,980 it's a little bit freaky, is my "red hot" opinion. 427 00:30:48,980 --> 00:30:50,980 'Our audience don't care about your opinion.' 428 00:30:50,980 --> 00:30:52,980 They don't care about mine or anyone's here. 429 00:30:52,980 --> 00:30:55,980 'They just wanna hear their own.' Yeah, but you hired me because... 430 00:30:55,980 --> 00:30:59,980 The only reason they watch us and not Patriot or Chat or Info 431 00:30:59,980 --> 00:31:02,980 or any of the million others out there... 432 00:31:02,980 --> 00:31:06,980 so we give them their opinion, or we lose them. 433 00:31:06,980 --> 00:31:09,980 And then we're all out of a job. So rewrite. 434 00:31:17,980 --> 00:31:19,980 When he died, 435 00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:21,980 the landlord of the pub obviously took back the tenancy, 436 00:31:21,980 --> 00:31:23,980 so for a while, we were couch surfing. 437 00:31:23,980 --> 00:31:27,980 But over the next year, I was able to sell the HMOs, 438 00:31:27,980 --> 00:31:28,980 pay off the mortgages, 439 00:31:28,980 --> 00:31:31,180 and there was enough equity left to buy where we live now. 440 00:31:31,180 --> 00:31:33,980 And what was the name of the pub? The Three Crowns. 441 00:31:33,980 --> 00:31:36,980 It's flats now. And did he have life insurance? 442 00:31:36,980 --> 00:31:38,980 Yeah, although I... 443 00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:41,340 I actually didn't even know he'd taken it out 444 00:31:41,340 --> 00:31:43,980 until after he was declared dead. 445 00:31:43,980 --> 00:31:44,980 When had he taken the policy out? 446 00:31:44,980 --> 00:31:47,980 2015. And how much did it pay out? 447 00:31:47,980 --> 00:31:49,980 About 400. Thousand? 448 00:31:50,980 --> 00:31:52,980 Yeah. And was there anyone else that you were aware of? 449 00:31:52,980 --> 00:31:56,980 Any conflicts, disputes, rows that you think we should know about, 450 00:31:56,980 --> 00:31:58,980 anyone who might have had beef with him? 451 00:31:58,980 --> 00:32:00,980 I guess maybe one of his tenants. 452 00:32:00,980 --> 00:32:03,020 One specifically, or... No. 453 00:32:03,020 --> 00:32:04,980 No, I mean generally. 454 00:32:04,980 --> 00:32:07,340 The houses were in deprived areas, 455 00:32:07,340 --> 00:32:10,660 and he often rented to people living slightly on the edge. 456 00:32:10,660 --> 00:32:12,180 And it's like I said yesterday, 457 00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:14,660 lots of them stopped paying during the pandemic, 458 00:32:14,660 --> 00:32:17,980 so, yeah, he had lots of disputes with them in 2020. 459 00:32:17,980 --> 00:32:21,180 And do you have records of all the tenancies from around this time? 460 00:32:21,180 --> 00:32:22,980 Somewhere. Might need to see those, please. 461 00:32:22,980 --> 00:32:25,980 OK. And you said he was born in Stepney, I think? 462 00:32:25,980 --> 00:32:27,660 Bow. Bow. 463 00:32:27,660 --> 00:32:29,980 And what was his relationship like with locals? 464 00:32:31,660 --> 00:32:32,980 Really good. 465 00:32:34,660 --> 00:32:35,980 People loved Gerry, I mean, 466 00:32:35,980 --> 00:32:37,980 you could stop a hundred people on the streets where we lived 467 00:32:37,980 --> 00:32:41,660 and ask them what they thought of him, and they'd all say the same... 468 00:32:41,660 --> 00:32:42,980 "Yeah, great bloke." 469 00:32:44,980 --> 00:32:48,180 OK. And then lastly, how was your relationship? 470 00:32:49,660 --> 00:32:51,980 Our relationship? Our relationship was fine. 471 00:32:51,980 --> 00:32:52,980 Can you elaborate on that? 472 00:32:54,980 --> 00:32:58,180 Not really. It was a happy marriage. 473 00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:03,660 How did you guys meet? How did we meet? 474 00:33:03,660 --> 00:33:05,980 We often like to get a wider picture of someone 475 00:33:05,980 --> 00:33:06,980 in a case like this. 476 00:33:06,980 --> 00:33:08,980 Small details that you might think unimportant 477 00:33:08,980 --> 00:33:11,980 might give us a clue that will help us in our investigation. 478 00:33:11,980 --> 00:33:13,980 We met through politics. 479 00:33:13,980 --> 00:33:16,660 We were both members of our local Labour Party. 480 00:33:16,660 --> 00:33:19,980 And when was this? Early 2009. 481 00:33:19,980 --> 00:33:23,980 OK. He'd just been through a rather painful divorce, and... 482 00:33:23,980 --> 00:33:27,980 we met at a local election hustings one night, and... 483 00:33:28,980 --> 00:33:29,980 ..yeah, we just clicked. 484 00:33:31,980 --> 00:33:34,980 Four months later, we were married. And Taylor was born when? 485 00:33:34,980 --> 00:33:36,980 Late 2009. 486 00:33:41,020 --> 00:33:42,980 OK, thank you so much. I think we're done. 487 00:33:42,980 --> 00:33:45,980 OK. Thank you. 488 00:33:46,980 --> 00:33:49,980 Yeah, nothing I can put my finger on. 489 00:33:49,980 --> 00:33:52,340 But off? Oh, boss. 490 00:33:52,340 --> 00:33:54,980 There's no record in any files I can find 491 00:33:54,980 --> 00:33:57,340 of Juliet Cooper asking for the case to be re-opened 492 00:33:57,340 --> 00:33:59,500 after Sidhu was prosecuted. 493 00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:01,980 Yeah... off. 494 00:34:10,980 --> 00:34:12,980 JESS: So, obviously, the initial investigation 495 00:34:12,980 --> 00:34:15,980 was more than a little flimsy, with no indication 496 00:34:15,980 --> 00:34:17,980 anyone even attempted to identify the loan sharks. 497 00:34:17,980 --> 00:34:19,820 Now, my sense is that 498 00:34:19,820 --> 00:34:22,980 that whole angle does seem a little confected, 499 00:34:22,980 --> 00:34:26,980 but COMPACT does detail an Erjon Markaj, 500 00:34:26,980 --> 00:34:28,340 who we will be speaking to. 501 00:34:28,340 --> 00:34:29,980 His family has lots of form. 502 00:34:29,980 --> 00:34:33,660 And I will be speaking to Ram Sidhu later today. 503 00:34:33,660 --> 00:34:35,980 Kaz, you have any luck with the CCTV? Yes and no. 504 00:34:35,980 --> 00:34:37,980 Camera's maintained by Havering Council, 505 00:34:37,980 --> 00:34:39,980 but they only keep footage for 90 days. Yep. 506 00:34:39,980 --> 00:34:42,980 But I did see that there were a couple of notices in the car park 507 00:34:42,980 --> 00:34:45,980 about car theft, so I wondered if it might be worth checking to see 508 00:34:45,980 --> 00:34:48,980 if there were any incidents in the weeks after he was reported missing? 509 00:34:48,980 --> 00:34:51,980 Because that footage might be preserved somewhere? 510 00:34:51,980 --> 00:34:54,020 Yeah, in a car theft case file. 511 00:34:54,020 --> 00:34:56,980 And if the body was brought in by car... Yeah, good shout. 512 00:34:56,980 --> 00:34:59,980 So he was reported missing on the 24th of February. 513 00:34:59,980 --> 00:35:02,980 I'm thinking checking up till maybe end of March? Go for it. 514 00:35:02,980 --> 00:35:04,340 So, as we now know, 515 00:35:04,340 --> 00:35:06,980 Mr Cooper was also the victim of an assault 516 00:35:06,980 --> 00:35:10,980 in his pub car park three weeks before he disappeared. 517 00:35:10,980 --> 00:35:13,820 Murray, can you pull up the CRS files on that, please? Yep. 518 00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:15,980 And also Cooper's own criminal record, 519 00:35:15,980 --> 00:35:17,500 maybe link in with Command and Control. 520 00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:22,980 Guv. Yeah, Sunny you had a thought about bin liners. Hm. 521 00:35:22,980 --> 00:35:25,820 So, you're trying to dispose of body parts. 522 00:35:25,820 --> 00:35:27,980 You need to transport them, and so you're gonna wrap them up 523 00:35:27,980 --> 00:35:31,980 in bin liners to minimise evidence being deposited in your vehicle. 524 00:35:31,980 --> 00:35:33,980 But then when you throw them in the marshes, 525 00:35:33,980 --> 00:35:36,980 you wanna unwrap them to accelerate the decomposition 526 00:35:36,980 --> 00:35:38,180 so they get eaten quickly, etc. 527 00:35:38,180 --> 00:35:40,980 And indeed, the little that we found of the torso 528 00:35:40,980 --> 00:35:43,340 certainly suggests that went into the marshes un-wrapped. 529 00:35:43,340 --> 00:35:45,980 My guess is that we haven't found any other parts 530 00:35:45,980 --> 00:35:46,980 due to the same reason. 531 00:35:46,980 --> 00:35:49,980 So why would the leg have gone into the marshes 532 00:35:49,980 --> 00:35:51,980 still wrapped in bin liners? 533 00:35:53,980 --> 00:35:55,980 The killer was interrupted. Had to have been. 534 00:35:55,980 --> 00:35:57,980 A member of the public disturbed them, 535 00:35:57,980 --> 00:35:59,980 and they threw it in quickly to avoid detection. OK. 536 00:35:59,980 --> 00:36:02,980 So boards up please, Kaz, all along that path, 537 00:36:02,980 --> 00:36:04,980 asking if anyone saw anything unusual 538 00:36:04,980 --> 00:36:08,980 between February 24th, 2021, and the end of March. Boss. 539 00:36:08,980 --> 00:36:11,980 Murray, Juliet Cooper is supplying us with their rental records. 540 00:36:11,980 --> 00:36:14,980 Could you compile a list of all their tenants 541 00:36:14,980 --> 00:36:17,980 in the 12 months before Cooper was reported missing? Sure. 542 00:36:17,980 --> 00:36:21,660 And, Fran, can you track down as many pub employees as possible? 543 00:36:21,660 --> 00:36:23,980 Ask them what their general impression of the marriage was, 544 00:36:23,980 --> 00:36:26,980 if they know of anyone else who might've had beef with Cooper, 545 00:36:26,980 --> 00:36:28,500 ditto the locals who knew him. 546 00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:29,980 Maybe a board up there as well? 547 00:36:29,980 --> 00:36:32,980 Yeah, yeah. Why not? OK, thanks, guys. 548 00:36:44,980 --> 00:36:46,980 'But you absolutely weren't drunk.' 549 00:36:46,980 --> 00:36:48,980 You were nowhere near over the limit. 550 00:36:48,980 --> 00:36:50,980 I know. You'd had half a pint. 551 00:36:50,980 --> 00:36:52,980 Colm Moyland was three times over the limit. 552 00:36:52,980 --> 00:36:55,980 He drove through a red light. It was his fault. 553 00:36:55,980 --> 00:36:57,980 Except now they're arguing that 554 00:36:57,980 --> 00:37:00,980 even the small amount of alcohol in my bloodstream means that... 555 00:37:01,980 --> 00:37:03,980 ..culpability should be shared. 556 00:37:03,980 --> 00:37:05,980 And if they can convince a judge of that, 557 00:37:05,980 --> 00:37:08,340 it would mean I wouldn't be able to make any claim on his insurance. 558 00:37:09,980 --> 00:37:13,500 So we claim on yours. Sure. 559 00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:15,500 Except now that my insurance are saying 560 00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:17,980 in the absence of any claim on his... 561 00:37:17,980 --> 00:37:19,980 it would mean that mine would be invalid... 562 00:37:21,180 --> 00:37:22,980 ..because of the half a pint. 563 00:37:24,180 --> 00:37:27,980 How? You weren't anywhere near over the limit. 564 00:37:30,980 --> 00:37:35,980 There's a clause in the... small print, which, erm... 565 00:37:35,980 --> 00:37:38,980 means that they have the right to deny compensation, 566 00:37:38,980 --> 00:37:41,340 on a case-by-case basis... 567 00:37:41,340 --> 00:37:43,980 if the driver has consumed any alcohol. 568 00:37:52,980 --> 00:37:54,980 Hm. 569 00:37:56,980 --> 00:37:57,980 Come here. 570 00:37:59,020 --> 00:38:01,980 We're gonna be OK. 571 00:38:01,980 --> 00:38:04,980 We are. We're gonna be just fine. 572 00:38:23,020 --> 00:38:24,980 DI Khan. 573 00:38:26,980 --> 00:38:28,980 Hands up, no excuses, we screwed up. 574 00:38:31,820 --> 00:38:33,500 Feels less like you pursued the wrong leads, 575 00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:34,980 more like you pursued no leads. 576 00:38:34,980 --> 00:38:37,980 Oh, we followed plenty of leads. Maybe you were otherwise occupied. 577 00:38:43,980 --> 00:38:45,980 Have you just come here to bask, DI Khan? 578 00:38:45,980 --> 00:38:47,980 I take no pleasure in where you find yourself. 579 00:38:47,980 --> 00:38:50,020 Come on... little bit. 580 00:38:50,020 --> 00:38:52,980 I mean, I did call you a coconut. 581 00:38:52,980 --> 00:38:53,980 Put your funny little DC on the deck 582 00:38:53,980 --> 00:38:55,980 and get your charges withdrawn. 583 00:38:55,980 --> 00:38:57,660 Got there in the end, didn't we? 584 00:39:00,180 --> 00:39:01,500 We did. 585 00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:04,820 So... 586 00:39:04,820 --> 00:39:07,980 how about we just agree I'm a disgrace to the badge, 587 00:39:07,980 --> 00:39:09,660 and then maybe I can actually help you, 588 00:39:09,660 --> 00:39:13,980 because... your pity's slightly making me wanna puke. 589 00:39:16,180 --> 00:39:18,660 You are a disgrace to the badge. Excellent. 590 00:39:20,980 --> 00:39:22,020 So... 591 00:39:23,980 --> 00:39:27,980 We own restaurants, dry-cleaners,, a few office spaces, 592 00:39:27,980 --> 00:39:29,340 but we're not gangsters. 593 00:39:29,340 --> 00:39:32,980 Your cousin is doing eight years for drugs offences 594 00:39:32,980 --> 00:39:35,500 and your father did ten for GBH. 595 00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:36,980 My dad died in 2009, 596 00:39:36,980 --> 00:39:40,820 and my cousin is nothing to do with our business. 597 00:39:40,820 --> 00:39:42,020 So you really felt he jumped into the river? 598 00:39:42,020 --> 00:39:44,980 Or just walked away. You met the wife? 599 00:39:44,980 --> 00:39:45,980 We have. 600 00:39:45,980 --> 00:39:47,980 Firstly, my instinct was 601 00:39:47,980 --> 00:39:50,500 that the marriage wasn't what she painted it as, 602 00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:52,340 and that, coupled with genuine money worries, 603 00:39:52,340 --> 00:39:53,980 caused him to just leave. 604 00:39:53,980 --> 00:39:57,980 OK. So, how much did you lend him, as a friend? 605 00:39:57,980 --> 00:40:00,980 12,000, which he paid back with an interest of five. 606 00:40:00,980 --> 00:40:02,980 My guess was he had borrowed money, 607 00:40:02,980 --> 00:40:04,980 and of course, it's possible they killed him, 608 00:40:04,980 --> 00:40:07,980 but again, my instinct was that that wasn't the case. 609 00:40:07,980 --> 00:40:10,980 Why? Firstly, she was pushing that too hard. 610 00:40:10,980 --> 00:40:13,980 She must have called my office half a dozen times to push that angle. 611 00:40:13,980 --> 00:40:15,980 Maybe because you didn't do anything. 612 00:40:15,980 --> 00:40:18,660 Because it didn't make sense. Dead men don't pay debts. 613 00:40:18,660 --> 00:40:21,980 Even if we were that kind of organisation, 614 00:40:21,980 --> 00:40:23,660 why would we have him killed? 615 00:40:23,660 --> 00:40:25,980 Dead men don't pay debts. You want a theory? 616 00:40:25,980 --> 00:40:27,340 I'll give you a theory. 617 00:40:27,340 --> 00:40:29,980 There was an assault on Cooper a few weeks before he died. 618 00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:33,820 I'd ask why the wife was so keen to point the finger at us. 619 00:40:33,820 --> 00:40:35,980 One of his bar managers, a Chinese girl, 620 00:40:35,980 --> 00:40:37,980 reckoned it was committed by a lad 621 00:40:37,980 --> 00:40:41,180 that Cooper employed the previous year but who'd not got furlough. 622 00:40:41,180 --> 00:40:44,980 I'd ask how happy she was knowing that he was with another woman. 623 00:40:45,980 --> 00:40:46,980 What other woman? 624 00:40:46,980 --> 00:40:48,980 You know his name? No. 625 00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:50,980 But apparently, the lad had threatened him a couple of times. 626 00:40:50,980 --> 00:40:52,820 The one always waiting in the car 627 00:40:52,820 --> 00:40:54,980 when he was dropping off his repayments. 628 00:40:54,980 --> 00:40:57,820 If I was you, I'd be looking for her. 629 00:40:58,980 --> 00:40:59,980 If I were you, I'd be looking for him. 630 00:41:03,980 --> 00:41:07,980 I appreciate your help, Mr Sidhu. Pfft, "Mr". 631 00:41:09,980 --> 00:41:10,980 It's classy. 632 00:41:14,980 --> 00:41:15,980 We're done here. 633 00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:24,980 But, listen, if you need any more help. 634 00:41:24,980 --> 00:41:26,980 Indeed. 635 00:41:26,980 --> 00:41:28,980 And I certainly know where to find you, don't I? 636 00:41:36,980 --> 00:41:39,020 'But right now, this is BNC. 637 00:41:39,020 --> 00:41:42,980 'It's seven o'clock, yes, it's time for Mel's Minute.' 638 00:41:47,980 --> 00:41:49,340 Well, face masks may be gone, 639 00:41:49,340 --> 00:41:51,340 lockdowns, for now, a thing of the past. 640 00:41:51,340 --> 00:41:53,980 But if you thought that the wokerati would let you get on 641 00:41:53,980 --> 00:41:55,980 with simply enjoying life, well, think again. 642 00:41:55,980 --> 00:41:57,980 This week, we saw more highly questionable data released 643 00:41:57,980 --> 00:42:01,980 informing us that we are literally going to burn in hell 644 00:42:01,980 --> 00:42:03,980 if we don't give up our cars, our holidays abroad, 645 00:42:03,980 --> 00:42:06,180 and, heck, they even have it in for my little, old log burner. 646 00:42:06,180 --> 00:42:08,020 And as I sit here and look outside my window 647 00:42:08,020 --> 00:42:10,980 on this May evening to see the frost outside, 648 00:42:10,980 --> 00:42:13,980 and I pull on my jumper, I ask myself two questions. 649 00:42:13,980 --> 00:42:15,980 Why are the climate change clap-trappers lying to us? 650 00:42:15,980 --> 00:42:19,980 And why, if the world is now boiling, am I so frigging cold? 651 00:42:19,980 --> 00:42:21,980 Well, the answer to the first question is 652 00:42:21,980 --> 00:42:23,980 because if we're in a state of perpetual fear and panic, 653 00:42:23,980 --> 00:42:25,660 then we're so much easier to control. 654 00:42:25,660 --> 00:42:26,980 If the pandemic taught us anything, 655 00:42:26,980 --> 00:42:29,980 it's that governments globe love to keep us under their thumb. 656 00:42:29,980 --> 00:42:31,980 And the answer to the second question is 657 00:42:31,980 --> 00:42:33,980 I'm cold because that's how climate works. 658 00:42:33,980 --> 00:42:37,980 It is unpredictable, always has been, always will be. 659 00:42:37,980 --> 00:42:40,980 To coin a phrase, "Sometimes, it snows in April." 660 00:42:40,980 --> 00:42:42,660 So until next time, 661 00:42:42,660 --> 00:42:44,980 good luck, good night, and God bless. 662 00:42:44,980 --> 00:42:47,980 Now... where are my matches? 663 00:42:48,980 --> 00:42:50,820 That is so true. So true. 664 00:42:50,820 --> 00:42:51,980 Thank you, Mel. 665 00:42:51,980 --> 00:42:54,980 'Thanks, Mel, and thank you for watching. 666 00:42:54,980 --> 00:42:57,980 'This has been Britannia News. 667 00:42:57,980 --> 00:42:59,980 'In Newcastle today, further unrest...' 668 00:43:44,180 --> 00:43:46,820 They are compromising, Juliet, 669 00:43:46,820 --> 00:43:48,980 all they want to do now is meet with you and talk. 670 00:43:48,980 --> 00:43:51,980 They want to lecture me, Paul, we both know that. 671 00:43:51,980 --> 00:43:53,980 They want to judge me. They really don't. 672 00:43:53,980 --> 00:43:55,980 Paul, it's the union's core skill. 673 00:43:55,980 --> 00:43:59,980 They want to judge me and wag their pompous little fingers... 674 00:43:59,980 --> 00:44:02,980 Please, help me here. My hands are tied. 675 00:44:02,980 --> 00:44:05,980 You've tied them yourself by just taking this shit for too long. 676 00:44:05,980 --> 00:44:08,340 I'm doing you a favour. I'm saying enough. 677 00:44:08,340 --> 00:44:10,980 You should be grateful. 678 00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:17,980 I know this is the life that I chose, Mother, 679 00:44:17,980 --> 00:44:18,980 I know it's my fault. 680 00:44:18,980 --> 00:44:20,500 I was just hoping, for once, 681 00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:22,980 just, you know, once, a little bit of empathy. 682 00:44:22,980 --> 00:44:25,980 We don't really do empathy, darling, do we? 683 00:44:25,980 --> 00:44:28,340 And given you've rather made a living out of that, 684 00:44:28,340 --> 00:44:30,980 it's a bit rich expecting it yourself. 685 00:44:30,980 --> 00:44:32,980 Well, I'll say good night, then. 686 00:44:32,980 --> 00:44:36,340 I'm sure you've got some vinegar you'd like to take a long soak in. 687 00:44:36,340 --> 00:44:38,980 Before you go, sweetie... 688 00:44:38,980 --> 00:44:41,020 did you hear about that man we met you with at the Oaks? 689 00:44:41,020 --> 00:44:42,500 What man? Hm. 690 00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:44,180 He was in the paper yesterday, I... 691 00:44:44,180 --> 00:44:46,820 I recognised him from the photo. 692 00:44:46,820 --> 00:44:49,500 What man? Gerard Cooper? 693 00:44:52,980 --> 00:44:55,020 Gerard? Wow, that's a long time. 694 00:44:55,020 --> 00:44:57,980 Why was he in the paper? 695 00:44:57,980 --> 00:44:59,980 'They found his body out in Whitney Marsh. 696 00:44:59,980 --> 00:45:02,980 'It says they're launching a murder investigation. 697 00:45:06,980 --> 00:45:09,340 'Melinda?' Yeah, sorry, I'm just... 698 00:45:10,980 --> 00:45:12,980 ..just in shock. 699 00:45:12,980 --> 00:45:14,980 'You used to love our picnics out in Whitney 700 00:45:14,980 --> 00:45:16,980 'when you were a little girl, didn't you?' 701 00:45:18,980 --> 00:45:21,500 I've gotta go, Mother. I-I'll talk to you next week. 702 00:45:24,980 --> 00:45:28,180 PODCAST HOST: 'So many have fallen for the corrupt and evil narrative 703 00:45:28,180 --> 00:45:29,980 'that has long been broadcast...' 704 00:46:02,980 --> 00:46:04,980 'Please leave a message after the tone.' 705 00:46:04,980 --> 00:46:07,980 Hi, it's Melinda Ricci. 706 00:46:08,980 --> 00:46:10,980 So, I just wanted to let you know 707 00:46:10,980 --> 00:46:13,980 that if you say anything to anyone that brings people to my door... 708 00:46:15,980 --> 00:46:16,980 ..you will regret it. 709 00:46:19,980 --> 00:46:23,340 'Message deleted.' 710 00:46:31,980 --> 00:46:33,980 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com 56099

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