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LINGLEY: Emfleet Nick just called,
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they've got suspected
human remains
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found in Whitney Marsh.
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My guess is this body was put
in there already dismembered.
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JESS: To what do I owe this?
I just thought you'd... like it.
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Why did my husband cook me sea bass?
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So you now just attack random girls
for literally no reason at all?
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She made a joke about you and Dad.
Sorry, Dad.
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And happy birthday.
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I'm getting stronger every day.
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So he will never walk unaided?
Come on.
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HASSAN: I have a watertight case.
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Given my story, I can prove that
I will be killed if I went back.
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SUNNY: We have a match. So, his name
is Gerard Samuel Cooper.
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The OIC on the case was
actually jailed in 2022.
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A guy that I charged myself,
a guy called Ram Sidhu.
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# All we do is hide away
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# All we do is
All we do is hide away
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# All we do is lie and wait
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# All we do is
All we do is lie and wait
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# I've been upside down
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# I don't wanna be
The right way round
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# Can't find paradise on the ground
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Like I said,
I don't know this guy personally,
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but everyone says he's fine.
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So as long as you work hard
and do the job,
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he's not interested
in anything else.
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You finish at five today, OK?
I'll be waiting for you here.
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Thank you.
Have a good day, my friend.
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'Question 15: how many
royal parks are there in London?'
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So, he was identified through
comparison with a DNA swab taken
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after he was charged
with a Section 47 ABH
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on July 16th 2019.
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All of his files are on COMPACT,
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and a quick squint suggests
they thought he had fallen into debt
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during the pandemic.
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His car was found parked
near the Elizabeth Bridge
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two weeks after he was reported
missing by his wife,
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who we will be speaking to asap.
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We will also be speaking
to DCI Ram Sidhu,
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the original investigating officer.
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So, right now,
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I need all the original
investigation paperwork
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inputted into HOLMES, please.
Yeah.
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Ditto with the 2019 assault.
Guv.
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And can we check who maintains
Whitney Marsh Car Park CCTV,
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how long they keep
their video files?
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And if there's any data entry
at the car park
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or pay online facilities?
Sure. On it.
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OK, that's it for now, guys.
Thanks, guys.
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You told me to tell them to shove it
up their arse.
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Of course I didn't tell them that.
So what did you say?
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That you were considering
their request. Fuck sake!
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It's the union, Jules,
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it's not a good idea
to back them into a corner.
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And it doesn't scare you
that even soft soaping them,
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dishonestly, as it happens,
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even that merest hint of dissent
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has caused my board
to be daubed with "racist"?
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Ah, it's obviously not ideal, but...
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But what?
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They effectively pay our salaries.
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Oh, well, yeah,
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and what a catastrophic
fucking mistake that was.
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We're now all
in the thrall of sodding children.
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I mean,
think back to when you were 21.
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Yes, exactly.
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I mean, seriously, Paul,
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they don't understand real life yet,
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with all its shit compromises and...
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and messy, imperfect solutions.
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And surely... part of our job
is to teach them about that.
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It's just an online course.
It'll only takes a few hours.
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Isn't it just easier to say yes?
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You know what, it actually isn't.
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Because what will it be next?
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It's also not fair to us, sure,
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but much more importantly,
it's not fair to them.
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Marty. Marty!
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Martin!
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Marty, please. I need to go toilet.
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Pickle! Mummy needs to wee-wee!
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How bad?
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Very bad.
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And what makes you think
it's getting any worse?
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Everything.
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And when you say "everything"?
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My dad... Mr Cooper... that place.
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The pub?
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And if I had a girlfriend...
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So, maybe we can up your dose
to 100mg.
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I have the right to have
a girlfriend and...
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We're not going
down that rabbit hole again, Marty.
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Women can get a boyfriend
whenever they want, so...
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No woman has the right to have
a boyfriend,
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no man has the right to have
a girlfriend,
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we've been through this
too many times.
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I'm just so tired of it.
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Not understanding anything.
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I know, mate.
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What did I do wrong, Dr Renfield?
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You didn't do anything wrong, Marty.
And it's certainly not your fault.
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Life is just... unfair sometimes.
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So, I'm going to up your Sertraline
to 100mg,
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and I'm gonna refer you
to a new autism service
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being set up by Kent Council.
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I should say that
it might take a year or so
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to get an appointment, er...
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they're a bit snowed under
right now.
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So, we'll...
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..see each other in three months?
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I should say, raising the dose might
give you some side effects, Marty.
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Call us immediately if you start
to have any trouble sleeping,
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if you feel more anxious,
if you have any violent...
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Dr Renfield?
Marty.
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Duncan. Do you wanna come through?
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Hey.
Hey.
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I heard... Paddy was struggling.
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Yeah, yeah, he's not brilliant.
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Oh, Mel, I'm so sorry.
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You wanna... talk things over?
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So, we only have one session
with this guy.
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But he basically tells us
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what sort of therapist
he thinks we need.
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So, see a therapist to see
what kind of therapist we need.
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Yeah.
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Bit nuts, I know.
You certainly are.
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Oi.
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I'm sorry.
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Wanna get a drink?
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And I've... I've just asked
for the search to be widened, so...
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..it may yet be that
we do... find more of him.
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How could someone do that...
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..to another human being? How could
someone do such a terrible thing?
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It's pretty much
always about disposal.
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If it doesn't sound too absurd,
it's generally not personal.
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TEARFULLY: Oh, my God,
how am I gonna tell my daughter?
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And where was it you said
you found him? Whitney Marsh?
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I always knew he hadn't jumped.
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In here....
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..I always knew, and I told them,
I told them so many times.
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The original investigation?
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I told them I thought
his death had probably been violent.
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OK, can I ask why you thought that?
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Because of the money.
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OK, sorry, can we just...
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can we just backtrack a minute?
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MAN: 'Women don't even like
that shit, bro.
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'They like to know who's boss,
innit?'
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'They like a strong man,
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'that's just fuckin' nature.'
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MAN: 'Smack them bitches up, man.
They're gonna love you more.'
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Hang on one second, dudes.
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Hello, Marty, how are we today?
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Fine, thank you for asking.
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He took on the lease of a pub
in Stepney in 2014.
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His uncle had managed it
in the '80s,
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and it was a bit of a home from home
for Gerry.
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So, that was his main job,
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but we also had
three rental properties.
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These where flats, or...?
No, HMOs.
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Two had seven rooms, one had five.
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It was quite a lot of work, and...
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and we also had fairly large
mortgages on all three buildings.
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You had to be
on top of tenancies and payments.
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Sorry, you did this with him, or...?
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No, no, I work at Central London
University. Oh, right.
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As...?
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A lecturer, modern history.
Oh, OK, I'm sorry, carry on.
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Yeah, so, things were pretty tight,
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but absolutely manageable.
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And the first five years or so
in Stepney were great.
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Gerry had grown up near there,
in Bow, and he just...
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he just dived back into that life.
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Lots of local community stuff and...
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..yeah, he really loved it.
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And then the pandemic happened,
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and it was just like
a perfect storm.
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Obviously, the pub had to shut,
so that revenue went.
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And then the tenants, one-by-one,
stopped paying their rent,
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so we... we basically just got
deeper and deeper into debt,
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which is
when he, without telling me,
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I should say... spoke
to a friend of a friend of a friend
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and started borrowing money from
people he really shouldn't have.
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Moneylenders.
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That makes them sound much more
respectable than they were,
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I think they were
basically gangsters. OK.
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And how did you find out about them?
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So, he was attacked...
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early February 2021,
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as he was putting
the bins out one night.
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OK. And you think by one of them?
Yeah, I do.
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And did he say
it was by one of them?
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No, but at that stage,
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I still didn't know
he'd borrowed any money, so...
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And how badly hurt was he?
Well, they didn't break anything.
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Probably too clever for that,
but he was knocked out.
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And you went to the police?
I called them, yeah. And?
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Well, Gerry was obviously
not that helpful.
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In hindsight,
he was probably scared,
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so, I mean, the police had
very little to go on.
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And it was only
after we rowed about that
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that he FINALLY told me
what was going on.
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OK. And how much did he owe them?
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By that point,
he said it was about ยฃ17,000.
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And did you ever get
any names of these people?
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I think I only ever met
one of them once.
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Some guy called Markaj
came to the pub, asking for Gerry,
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five days after the attack.
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Markaj.
Yeah.
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Looked and sounded Mediterranean.
I think...
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Gerry said they were Albanian.
OK.
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So... can you talk us
through what happened
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the day he disappeared?
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Can I just take a break?
I need to check on my daughter.
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Yeah. Yeah, of course.
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MELINDA: You think
you have everything mapped out.
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You can see the next 20...
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..30 years.
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And then out of nowhere...
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..this thing happens,
and it shifts everything...
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..forever.
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I'm so sorry, I have to take this.
It's my producer.
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Er...
Yeah.
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Gabe?
'Mel.'
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Sending you an article from
the Express for your next piece.
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'Gabe?'
Ciao.
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And are you managing to get
into the shower, Dot?
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Yeah, yeah.
Yeah? Yeah.
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How'd you do that, then, if
you find it hard using your walker?
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Does Marty help you?
Yes, yes, he helps me.
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And how did you get
that bruise on your face?
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She slipped, silly-billy...
as I got her out of the shower.
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Oh, dear.
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Yeah.
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Dotty old Dot!
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Marty?
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Do you wanna have a quick sit down?
Cos I just need a quick chat.
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So, look, as I've said before,
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and I really do feel this
strongly now...
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I'm not sure Mum's being looked
after as well as she needs, Marty.
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She's fine. Aren't you, Mum?
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Yes, I'm fine.
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Well, I'm not completely sure
you are, my love, so...
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I'd like to speak
to social services...
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No. ..and get them to come and do
a proper assessment.
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I'm not going into a home.
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00:18:06,980 --> 00:18:08,980
We just need to make sure
you're safe, Dot.
249
00:18:08,980 --> 00:18:11,980
I can't leave him on his own.
250
00:18:11,980 --> 00:18:13,980
He-He... He can't cope.
CHANTS: Mum, Mum, Mum...
251
00:18:13,980 --> 00:18:17,980
Look, all we need
is some more help here.
252
00:18:24,980 --> 00:18:27,020
Cheese and pickle do you?
Yeah!
253
00:18:29,980 --> 00:18:31,660
It's all right.
254
00:18:31,660 --> 00:18:32,980
It's all right, Marty.
It's all right.
255
00:18:32,980 --> 00:18:34,660
Ssh, ssh, ssh, ssh, ssh, ssh, ssh.
256
00:18:35,980 --> 00:18:38,820
The 24th was
our wedding anniversary,
257
00:18:38,820 --> 00:18:41,020
and we were meant to be having
a meal together later that evening.
258
00:18:42,020 --> 00:18:44,980
It's OK, take your time.
259
00:18:44,980 --> 00:18:47,980
I got back from work at about six...
260
00:18:48,980 --> 00:18:50,980
..made Taylor her tea,
261
00:18:50,980 --> 00:18:52,980
and then she went upstairs
to do some homework...
262
00:18:52,980 --> 00:18:54,980
Sorry, you lived here then?
263
00:18:54,980 --> 00:18:56,980
No, I bought this place
after he died.
264
00:18:56,980 --> 00:18:59,340
We were living
above the pub in 2021,
265
00:18:59,340 --> 00:19:02,340
we had a... a two-floor flat there.
Oh, OK, right.
266
00:19:02,340 --> 00:19:05,980
So, erm...
267
00:19:05,980 --> 00:19:09,980
Taylor went upstairs, and I started
cooking for myself and Gerry.
268
00:19:09,980 --> 00:19:11,980
I'd expected him at about 6:30,
269
00:19:11,980 --> 00:19:16,980
and then when he hadn't turned up
by 7:30, I started to call him.
270
00:19:16,980 --> 00:19:19,980
Over the next four or five hours,
I called multiple times.
271
00:19:19,980 --> 00:19:22,980
I called his friends, his family.
272
00:19:22,980 --> 00:19:23,980
Then I checked his diary and saw
273
00:19:23,980 --> 00:19:26,980
he was meant to be having a meeting
with a colleague from the brewery,
274
00:19:26,980 --> 00:19:28,980
so I rang her.
275
00:19:28,980 --> 00:19:30,980
And she said he'd rung half an hour
276
00:19:30,980 --> 00:19:36,180
before their meeting at four to
cancel, which was very unlike Ger.
277
00:19:36,180 --> 00:19:38,980
And where was the meeting?
Winchester.
278
00:19:38,980 --> 00:19:41,980
And then eventually, at about
midnight, I called the police.
279
00:19:41,980 --> 00:19:43,980
And what was their response?
280
00:19:43,980 --> 00:19:45,500
They just assumed we'd had a row
281
00:19:45,500 --> 00:19:47,980
and that he'd turn up
at some point tomorrow,
282
00:19:47,980 --> 00:19:52,980
even though I told them
that that wasn't... him...
283
00:19:52,980 --> 00:19:53,980
that wasn't us.
284
00:19:55,820 --> 00:19:58,980
I called again the following day,
out of my mind now with worry,
285
00:19:58,980 --> 00:20:00,180
and finally, that night,
286
00:20:00,180 --> 00:20:01,980
two officers came
and took a statement.
287
00:20:01,980 --> 00:20:05,980
And you told them about
the assault and the loan sharks?
288
00:20:05,980 --> 00:20:07,980
Yes, of course.
289
00:20:07,980 --> 00:20:10,980
And... And what was
their reaction to that?
290
00:20:12,980 --> 00:20:15,980
After there was no
credit card spending or phone use,
291
00:20:15,980 --> 00:20:17,980
they said they were upgrading him
to high risk
292
00:20:17,980 --> 00:20:19,660
and that they were putting
resources into it,
293
00:20:19,660 --> 00:20:21,980
but my sense was
their investigation was...
294
00:20:21,980 --> 00:20:23,980
always perfunctory, at best.
295
00:20:23,980 --> 00:20:26,020
So they thought, what,
he'd... just walked out?
296
00:20:26,020 --> 00:20:29,020
Until they found his car
near the Elizabeth Bridge.
297
00:20:29,020 --> 00:20:30,980
And then they decided,
298
00:20:30,980 --> 00:20:33,020
with a third UK lockdown beckoning,
that he'd jumped.
299
00:20:33,020 --> 00:20:34,980
But you never believed that?
300
00:20:34,980 --> 00:20:35,980
His car was by that bridge
301
00:20:35,980 --> 00:20:38,980
because one of our rentals is
a hundred yards from there, so no.
302
00:20:38,980 --> 00:20:40,980
And then nine months later,
I saw the officer
303
00:20:40,980 --> 00:20:43,340
who led the investigation
was charged with corruption...
304
00:20:43,340 --> 00:20:45,980
Yeah, and I-I should say
we are very sorry for that.
305
00:20:45,980 --> 00:20:48,980
And I asked for the case to be
re-opened, but nothing happened.
306
00:20:48,980 --> 00:20:50,980
So, no, they didn't exactly inspire
me with confidence.
307
00:20:50,980 --> 00:20:52,980
No, I can imagine.
308
00:20:52,980 --> 00:20:53,980
But...
309
00:20:53,980 --> 00:20:56,980
Listen. Could we maybe
pick this up tomorrow?
310
00:20:56,980 --> 00:20:58,980
I really think
I need to be with my daughter now.
311
00:20:59,980 --> 00:21:03,180
Of course. Yeah.
We're only over in Euston.
312
00:21:03,180 --> 00:21:04,980
It would be great
if it were tomorrow.
313
00:21:04,980 --> 00:21:06,980
I'm in the office all day.
314
00:21:11,980 --> 00:21:13,180
MARTY: Doreen?
315
00:21:15,980 --> 00:21:16,980
Doreen?
316
00:21:19,980 --> 00:21:20,980
Doreen?
317
00:21:21,980 --> 00:21:25,980
I-I'm going to get a job
so we can pay for more help at home.
318
00:21:25,980 --> 00:21:29,980
You don't need to get a job, Marty,
you won't have to pay for anything.
319
00:21:29,980 --> 00:21:32,980
Don't take her away, though.
We like it how it is.
320
00:21:32,980 --> 00:21:35,980
We just need to make sure
you're both safe, Marty.
321
00:21:35,980 --> 00:21:37,980
Well, I like it here.
I know.
322
00:21:37,980 --> 00:21:40,980
I've always liked it here.
Of course you have.
323
00:21:40,980 --> 00:21:42,340
Mum likes it here, too.
324
00:21:42,340 --> 00:21:45,020
Well...
A-A-And we need each other.
325
00:21:46,980 --> 00:21:49,820
Go on inside,
or you'll catch a death.
326
00:22:03,980 --> 00:22:06,980
Thanks so much.
Taylor not at school today?
327
00:22:07,980 --> 00:22:09,980
She wasn't feeling too well.
328
00:22:09,980 --> 00:22:12,980
Call me as soon as you know
your movements. Will do.
329
00:22:12,980 --> 00:22:14,820
I hope it goes OK with her.
330
00:22:16,980 --> 00:22:17,980
Thank you.
331
00:22:36,980 --> 00:22:38,980
What are you thinking?
332
00:22:38,980 --> 00:22:41,980
I'm thinking...
that's a very nice house.
333
00:22:41,980 --> 00:22:45,980
I'm thinking
the kid's at a 25K-a-year school.
334
00:22:45,980 --> 00:22:46,980
Thinking life insurance.
335
00:23:55,980 --> 00:23:58,180
Get out.
What?
336
00:23:58,180 --> 00:24:02,660
Get out, walk back over there,
and apologise.
337
00:24:02,660 --> 00:24:04,820
You are joking.
Now!
338
00:24:04,820 --> 00:24:07,980
This is not fair, Asif.
Life's not fair, mate.
339
00:24:09,980 --> 00:24:11,340
If it was,
my brother would still be alive.
340
00:24:12,980 --> 00:24:16,980
Now go back over there...
and apologise.
341
00:24:35,980 --> 00:24:37,980
Killed by who?
342
00:24:37,980 --> 00:24:41,980
Well, that's what they're now gonna
try to find out, sweetie.
343
00:24:46,980 --> 00:24:47,980
Where was he found?
344
00:24:47,980 --> 00:24:51,980
In a place called Whitney Marsh,
it's about 15 miles east of here.
345
00:24:54,980 --> 00:24:58,980
And... what did they find,
just like a skeleton?
346
00:24:58,980 --> 00:25:00,980
Yeah, sort of, I guess.
347
00:25:00,980 --> 00:25:03,980
I don't really have the details
on that yet.
348
00:25:07,980 --> 00:25:08,980
Are you sure it's him?
349
00:25:09,980 --> 00:25:13,980
They did a DNA comparison test.
It's definitely him.
350
00:25:22,980 --> 00:25:23,980
How did he die?
351
00:25:25,980 --> 00:25:27,820
How was he...?
352
00:25:27,820 --> 00:25:29,500
They're not sure yet.
353
00:25:33,980 --> 00:25:35,980
It's OK to cry...
354
00:25:37,020 --> 00:25:38,980
..sweetheart, to be angry.
355
00:25:38,980 --> 00:25:40,980
You scream and shout if you want.
356
00:25:43,980 --> 00:25:45,980
Just always thought it was me.
357
00:25:45,980 --> 00:25:47,980
What was you?
358
00:25:50,980 --> 00:25:52,020
Why he jumped.
359
00:25:54,980 --> 00:25:56,980
I just, erm...
360
00:25:56,980 --> 00:25:58,980
I thought he mustn't have liked me
enough to stay around.
361
00:25:58,980 --> 00:26:01,980
Oh, my God, no.
362
00:26:01,980 --> 00:26:03,980
He would never have thought that,
363
00:26:03,980 --> 00:26:07,980
even if that had been how he died,
he adored you.
364
00:26:07,980 --> 00:26:09,980
Tay, you were his life.
365
00:26:17,980 --> 00:26:19,340
Tay?
It's fine.
366
00:26:19,340 --> 00:26:21,980
It's fine. I'm fine.
I've got homework to do.
367
00:26:27,980 --> 00:26:30,660
OK. Not too long on that, boys, OK?
368
00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:28,020
DEBBIE: 'Hey?'
369
00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:32,980
Jessie?
370
00:27:36,980 --> 00:27:37,980
Hey.
371
00:27:39,980 --> 00:27:43,660
Hello. How are you?
372
00:27:45,980 --> 00:27:47,180
'I've missed you so much.'
373
00:27:51,180 --> 00:27:53,980
I just was calling to see if, erm...
374
00:27:54,980 --> 00:27:57,980
..if maybe we could meet up,
just the two of us, to talk?
375
00:28:00,660 --> 00:28:01,980
I'd like that.
376
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:06,980
OK, I'll text you some dates.
377
00:28:06,980 --> 00:28:10,020
Thank you.
'And maybe don't, erm...'
378
00:28:11,980 --> 00:28:14,980
..don't say anything to Mum
just yet.
379
00:28:14,980 --> 00:28:17,980
Of course, whatever you want.
380
00:28:17,980 --> 00:28:19,980
OK. Bye.
381
00:28:29,980 --> 00:28:32,980
So, I'm...
So, I'm sitting at the bar, OK,
382
00:28:32,980 --> 00:28:35,980
and she's already
15, 20 minutes late by this point.
383
00:28:35,980 --> 00:28:38,340
And I look, and I see her walk in,
384
00:28:38,340 --> 00:28:40,980
and I sort of raise my hand,
and she sees me.
385
00:28:40,980 --> 00:28:44,340
And then
I actually see her eyes narrow
386
00:28:44,340 --> 00:28:46,980
in a kind of
"hm, not sure" narrow...
387
00:28:46,980 --> 00:28:48,980
No, stop it.
..you know what I mean?
388
00:28:48,980 --> 00:28:51,660
So, I'm sitting there,
I'm smiling and stuff,
389
00:28:51,660 --> 00:28:53,500
and I watch her walking over.
390
00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:57,980
And I stand up ready to kind of
shake hands, or kiss, whatever.
391
00:28:57,980 --> 00:29:01,980
And except about ten feet away,
she suddenly stops.
392
00:29:01,980 --> 00:29:04,340
And, you know,
I say hi and put my hand out,
393
00:29:04,340 --> 00:29:07,500
and she just looked at me
and goes...
394
00:29:08,660 --> 00:29:09,980
"..Nah."
No way!
395
00:29:09,980 --> 00:29:12,820
I promise you,
and then turns around and walks out.
396
00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:15,020
Stop it.
No, I promise you. She just...
397
00:29:15,020 --> 00:29:18,660
"Nah."
Oh, my God.
398
00:29:18,660 --> 00:29:20,980
LAUGHING: And I'm kind of like...
399
00:29:20,980 --> 00:29:23,980
not even a kind of like
"Oh, you know, you're too short,
400
00:29:23,980 --> 00:29:27,980
"you're too old, you're too brown,"
nothing, just, "Nah."
401
00:29:27,980 --> 00:29:30,660
And then.... And...
And I don't know why, Lee,
402
00:29:30,660 --> 00:29:33,980
but that was the moment
I decided to stop online dating.
403
00:29:33,980 --> 00:29:35,980
Yes, well, you know, good for you.
404
00:29:35,980 --> 00:29:38,980
Well, thank you very much.
Good decision, I think.
405
00:29:38,980 --> 00:29:39,980
I think so.
406
00:29:53,980 --> 00:29:55,980
Jesus, what...
Yeah.
407
00:29:55,980 --> 00:29:58,980
What is it? 20 pages, 30?
408
00:29:58,980 --> 00:30:00,980
24, including two blank sheets.
409
00:30:00,980 --> 00:30:03,980
So how long did DCI Sidhu get?
410
00:30:03,980 --> 00:30:05,980
Not long enough.
411
00:30:05,980 --> 00:30:07,980
Anyway, I've asked Fran
to go through it,
412
00:30:07,980 --> 00:30:09,980
and I thought we could do a briefing
with the entire team
413
00:30:09,980 --> 00:30:11,980
straight after this?
Yeah. Cool.
414
00:30:17,980 --> 00:30:20,500
Thanks for coming in.
Can I get you a coffee?
415
00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:21,820
Would you like a coffee?
416
00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:23,820
JULIET: White, please, no sugar.
Black, please.
417
00:30:23,820 --> 00:30:26,180
How you doing?
All right, thanks.
418
00:30:26,180 --> 00:30:27,980
MELINDA: 'So that's it from me.
419
00:30:27,980 --> 00:30:31,980
'Until tomorrow, good luck,
good night, and blah, blah, blah.'
420
00:30:31,980 --> 00:30:34,180
Sounds very much to me like
you're trying to get our audience
421
00:30:34,180 --> 00:30:35,980
to panic a bit there, Mel.
422
00:30:35,980 --> 00:30:38,980
'No.' Sounded a little bit Net Zero,
if I'm honest.
423
00:30:38,980 --> 00:30:40,980
Well, I guess when you've got
hospitals in Southern Spain
424
00:30:40,980 --> 00:30:42,980
where half the beds
in the burns unit are occupied
425
00:30:42,980 --> 00:30:46,180
by people whose feet got burned
by the pavement, Gabe, then, yeah...
426
00:30:46,180 --> 00:30:48,980
it's a little bit freaky,
is my "red hot" opinion.
427
00:30:48,980 --> 00:30:50,980
'Our audience don't care
about your opinion.'
428
00:30:50,980 --> 00:30:52,980
They don't care
about mine or anyone's here.
429
00:30:52,980 --> 00:30:55,980
'They just wanna hear their own.'
Yeah, but you hired me because...
430
00:30:55,980 --> 00:30:59,980
The only reason they watch us
and not Patriot or Chat or Info
431
00:30:59,980 --> 00:31:02,980
or any of the million others
out there...
432
00:31:02,980 --> 00:31:06,980
so we give them their opinion,
or we lose them.
433
00:31:06,980 --> 00:31:09,980
And then we're all out of a job.
So rewrite.
434
00:31:17,980 --> 00:31:19,980
When he died,
435
00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:21,980
the landlord of the pub
obviously took back the tenancy,
436
00:31:21,980 --> 00:31:23,980
so for a while,
we were couch surfing.
437
00:31:23,980 --> 00:31:27,980
But over the next year,
I was able to sell the HMOs,
438
00:31:27,980 --> 00:31:28,980
pay off the mortgages,
439
00:31:28,980 --> 00:31:31,180
and there was enough equity left
to buy where we live now.
440
00:31:31,180 --> 00:31:33,980
And what was the name of the pub?
The Three Crowns.
441
00:31:33,980 --> 00:31:36,980
It's flats now.
And did he have life insurance?
442
00:31:36,980 --> 00:31:38,980
Yeah, although I...
443
00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:41,340
I actually didn't even know
he'd taken it out
444
00:31:41,340 --> 00:31:43,980
until after he was declared dead.
445
00:31:43,980 --> 00:31:44,980
When had he taken the policy out?
446
00:31:44,980 --> 00:31:47,980
2015.
And how much did it pay out?
447
00:31:47,980 --> 00:31:49,980
About 400.
Thousand?
448
00:31:50,980 --> 00:31:52,980
Yeah. And was there anyone else
that you were aware of?
449
00:31:52,980 --> 00:31:56,980
Any conflicts, disputes, rows
that you think we should know about,
450
00:31:56,980 --> 00:31:58,980
anyone who might have had beef
with him?
451
00:31:58,980 --> 00:32:00,980
I guess maybe one of his tenants.
452
00:32:00,980 --> 00:32:03,020
One specifically, or...
No.
453
00:32:03,020 --> 00:32:04,980
No, I mean generally.
454
00:32:04,980 --> 00:32:07,340
The houses were in deprived areas,
455
00:32:07,340 --> 00:32:10,660
and he often rented to people
living slightly on the edge.
456
00:32:10,660 --> 00:32:12,180
And it's like I said yesterday,
457
00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:14,660
lots of them stopped paying
during the pandemic,
458
00:32:14,660 --> 00:32:17,980
so, yeah, he had lots of disputes
with them in 2020.
459
00:32:17,980 --> 00:32:21,180
And do you have records of all
the tenancies from around this time?
460
00:32:21,180 --> 00:32:22,980
Somewhere.
Might need to see those, please.
461
00:32:22,980 --> 00:32:25,980
OK. And you said he was born
in Stepney, I think?
462
00:32:25,980 --> 00:32:27,660
Bow.
Bow.
463
00:32:27,660 --> 00:32:29,980
And what was his relationship like
with locals?
464
00:32:31,660 --> 00:32:32,980
Really good.
465
00:32:34,660 --> 00:32:35,980
People loved Gerry, I mean,
466
00:32:35,980 --> 00:32:37,980
you could stop a hundred people
on the streets where we lived
467
00:32:37,980 --> 00:32:41,660
and ask them what they thought of
him, and they'd all say the same...
468
00:32:41,660 --> 00:32:42,980
"Yeah, great bloke."
469
00:32:44,980 --> 00:32:48,180
OK. And then lastly,
how was your relationship?
470
00:32:49,660 --> 00:32:51,980
Our relationship?
Our relationship was fine.
471
00:32:51,980 --> 00:32:52,980
Can you elaborate on that?
472
00:32:54,980 --> 00:32:58,180
Not really. It was a happy marriage.
473
00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:03,660
How did you guys meet?
How did we meet?
474
00:33:03,660 --> 00:33:05,980
We often like to get
a wider picture of someone
475
00:33:05,980 --> 00:33:06,980
in a case like this.
476
00:33:06,980 --> 00:33:08,980
Small details
that you might think unimportant
477
00:33:08,980 --> 00:33:11,980
might give us a clue that
will help us in our investigation.
478
00:33:11,980 --> 00:33:13,980
We met through politics.
479
00:33:13,980 --> 00:33:16,660
We were both
members of our local Labour Party.
480
00:33:16,660 --> 00:33:19,980
And when was this?
Early 2009.
481
00:33:19,980 --> 00:33:23,980
OK. He'd just been through
a rather painful divorce, and...
482
00:33:23,980 --> 00:33:27,980
we met at a local election hustings
one night, and...
483
00:33:28,980 --> 00:33:29,980
..yeah, we just clicked.
484
00:33:31,980 --> 00:33:34,980
Four months later, we were married.
And Taylor was born when?
485
00:33:34,980 --> 00:33:36,980
Late 2009.
486
00:33:41,020 --> 00:33:42,980
OK, thank you so much.
I think we're done.
487
00:33:42,980 --> 00:33:45,980
OK.
Thank you.
488
00:33:46,980 --> 00:33:49,980
Yeah, nothing I can put
my finger on.
489
00:33:49,980 --> 00:33:52,340
But off?
Oh, boss.
490
00:33:52,340 --> 00:33:54,980
There's no record
in any files I can find
491
00:33:54,980 --> 00:33:57,340
of Juliet Cooper asking
for the case to be re-opened
492
00:33:57,340 --> 00:33:59,500
after Sidhu was prosecuted.
493
00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:01,980
Yeah... off.
494
00:34:10,980 --> 00:34:12,980
JESS: So, obviously,
the initial investigation
495
00:34:12,980 --> 00:34:15,980
was more than a little flimsy,
with no indication
496
00:34:15,980 --> 00:34:17,980
anyone even attempted to identify
the loan sharks.
497
00:34:17,980 --> 00:34:19,820
Now, my sense is that
498
00:34:19,820 --> 00:34:22,980
that whole angle does seem
a little confected,
499
00:34:22,980 --> 00:34:26,980
but COMPACT does detail
an Erjon Markaj,
500
00:34:26,980 --> 00:34:28,340
who we will be speaking to.
501
00:34:28,340 --> 00:34:29,980
His family has lots of form.
502
00:34:29,980 --> 00:34:33,660
And I will be speaking
to Ram Sidhu later today.
503
00:34:33,660 --> 00:34:35,980
Kaz, you have any luck
with the CCTV? Yes and no.
504
00:34:35,980 --> 00:34:37,980
Camera's maintained
by Havering Council,
505
00:34:37,980 --> 00:34:39,980
but they only keep footage
for 90 days. Yep.
506
00:34:39,980 --> 00:34:42,980
But I did see that there were
a couple of notices in the car park
507
00:34:42,980 --> 00:34:45,980
about car theft, so I wondered
if it might be worth checking to see
508
00:34:45,980 --> 00:34:48,980
if there were any incidents in the
weeks after he was reported missing?
509
00:34:48,980 --> 00:34:51,980
Because that footage
might be preserved somewhere?
510
00:34:51,980 --> 00:34:54,020
Yeah, in a car theft case file.
511
00:34:54,020 --> 00:34:56,980
And if the body was brought in
by car... Yeah, good shout.
512
00:34:56,980 --> 00:34:59,980
So he was reported missing
on the 24th of February.
513
00:34:59,980 --> 00:35:02,980
I'm thinking checking up
till maybe end of March? Go for it.
514
00:35:02,980 --> 00:35:04,340
So, as we now know,
515
00:35:04,340 --> 00:35:06,980
Mr Cooper was also
the victim of an assault
516
00:35:06,980 --> 00:35:10,980
in his pub car park
three weeks before he disappeared.
517
00:35:10,980 --> 00:35:13,820
Murray, can you pull up
the CRS files on that, please? Yep.
518
00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:15,980
And also
Cooper's own criminal record,
519
00:35:15,980 --> 00:35:17,500
maybe link in
with Command and Control.
520
00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:22,980
Guv. Yeah, Sunny you had
a thought about bin liners. Hm.
521
00:35:22,980 --> 00:35:25,820
So, you're trying to dispose
of body parts.
522
00:35:25,820 --> 00:35:27,980
You need to transport them,
and so you're gonna wrap them up
523
00:35:27,980 --> 00:35:31,980
in bin liners to minimise evidence
being deposited in your vehicle.
524
00:35:31,980 --> 00:35:33,980
But then when you throw them
in the marshes,
525
00:35:33,980 --> 00:35:36,980
you wanna unwrap them
to accelerate the decomposition
526
00:35:36,980 --> 00:35:38,180
so they get eaten quickly, etc.
527
00:35:38,180 --> 00:35:40,980
And indeed, the little
that we found of the torso
528
00:35:40,980 --> 00:35:43,340
certainly suggests that went
into the marshes un-wrapped.
529
00:35:43,340 --> 00:35:45,980
My guess is that
we haven't found any other parts
530
00:35:45,980 --> 00:35:46,980
due to the same reason.
531
00:35:46,980 --> 00:35:49,980
So why would the leg have gone
into the marshes
532
00:35:49,980 --> 00:35:51,980
still wrapped in bin liners?
533
00:35:53,980 --> 00:35:55,980
The killer was interrupted.
Had to have been.
534
00:35:55,980 --> 00:35:57,980
A member of the public
disturbed them,
535
00:35:57,980 --> 00:35:59,980
and they threw it in quickly
to avoid detection. OK.
536
00:35:59,980 --> 00:36:02,980
So boards up please, Kaz,
all along that path,
537
00:36:02,980 --> 00:36:04,980
asking if anyone
saw anything unusual
538
00:36:04,980 --> 00:36:08,980
between February 24th, 2021,
and the end of March. Boss.
539
00:36:08,980 --> 00:36:11,980
Murray, Juliet Cooper is supplying
us with their rental records.
540
00:36:11,980 --> 00:36:14,980
Could you compile
a list of all their tenants
541
00:36:14,980 --> 00:36:17,980
in the 12 months before
Cooper was reported missing? Sure.
542
00:36:17,980 --> 00:36:21,660
And, Fran, can you track down
as many pub employees as possible?
543
00:36:21,660 --> 00:36:23,980
Ask them what their general
impression of the marriage was,
544
00:36:23,980 --> 00:36:26,980
if they know of anyone else
who might've had beef with Cooper,
545
00:36:26,980 --> 00:36:28,500
ditto the locals who knew him.
546
00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:29,980
Maybe a board up there as well?
547
00:36:29,980 --> 00:36:32,980
Yeah, yeah. Why not?
OK, thanks, guys.
548
00:36:44,980 --> 00:36:46,980
'But you absolutely weren't drunk.'
549
00:36:46,980 --> 00:36:48,980
You were
nowhere near over the limit.
550
00:36:48,980 --> 00:36:50,980
I know.
You'd had half a pint.
551
00:36:50,980 --> 00:36:52,980
Colm Moyland was
three times over the limit.
552
00:36:52,980 --> 00:36:55,980
He drove through a red light.
It was his fault.
553
00:36:55,980 --> 00:36:57,980
Except now they're arguing that
554
00:36:57,980 --> 00:37:00,980
even the small amount of alcohol
in my bloodstream means that...
555
00:37:01,980 --> 00:37:03,980
..culpability should be shared.
556
00:37:03,980 --> 00:37:05,980
And if they can convince
a judge of that,
557
00:37:05,980 --> 00:37:08,340
it would mean I wouldn't be able
to make any claim on his insurance.
558
00:37:09,980 --> 00:37:13,500
So we claim on yours.
Sure.
559
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:15,500
Except now
that my insurance are saying
560
00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:17,980
in the absence of any claim
on his...
561
00:37:17,980 --> 00:37:19,980
it would mean
that mine would be invalid...
562
00:37:21,180 --> 00:37:22,980
..because of the half a pint.
563
00:37:24,180 --> 00:37:27,980
How? You weren't
anywhere near over the limit.
564
00:37:30,980 --> 00:37:35,980
There's a clause
in the... small print, which, erm...
565
00:37:35,980 --> 00:37:38,980
means that they have
the right to deny compensation,
566
00:37:38,980 --> 00:37:41,340
on a case-by-case basis...
567
00:37:41,340 --> 00:37:43,980
if the driver
has consumed any alcohol.
568
00:37:52,980 --> 00:37:54,980
Hm.
569
00:37:56,980 --> 00:37:57,980
Come here.
570
00:37:59,020 --> 00:38:01,980
We're gonna be OK.
571
00:38:01,980 --> 00:38:04,980
We are. We're gonna be just fine.
572
00:38:23,020 --> 00:38:24,980
DI Khan.
573
00:38:26,980 --> 00:38:28,980
Hands up, no excuses, we screwed up.
574
00:38:31,820 --> 00:38:33,500
Feels less like
you pursued the wrong leads,
575
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:34,980
more like you pursued no leads.
576
00:38:34,980 --> 00:38:37,980
Oh, we followed plenty of leads.
Maybe you were otherwise occupied.
577
00:38:43,980 --> 00:38:45,980
Have you just come here to bask,
DI Khan?
578
00:38:45,980 --> 00:38:47,980
I take no pleasure
in where you find yourself.
579
00:38:47,980 --> 00:38:50,020
Come on... little bit.
580
00:38:50,020 --> 00:38:52,980
I mean, I did call you a coconut.
581
00:38:52,980 --> 00:38:53,980
Put your funny little DC
on the deck
582
00:38:53,980 --> 00:38:55,980
and get your charges withdrawn.
583
00:38:55,980 --> 00:38:57,660
Got there in the end, didn't we?
584
00:39:00,180 --> 00:39:01,500
We did.
585
00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:04,820
So...
586
00:39:04,820 --> 00:39:07,980
how about we just agree
I'm a disgrace to the badge,
587
00:39:07,980 --> 00:39:09,660
and then maybe
I can actually help you,
588
00:39:09,660 --> 00:39:13,980
because... your pity's
slightly making me wanna puke.
589
00:39:16,180 --> 00:39:18,660
You are a disgrace to the badge.
Excellent.
590
00:39:20,980 --> 00:39:22,020
So...
591
00:39:23,980 --> 00:39:27,980
We own restaurants, dry-cleaners,,
a few office spaces,
592
00:39:27,980 --> 00:39:29,340
but we're not gangsters.
593
00:39:29,340 --> 00:39:32,980
Your cousin is doing eight years
for drugs offences
594
00:39:32,980 --> 00:39:35,500
and your father did ten for GBH.
595
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:36,980
My dad died in 2009,
596
00:39:36,980 --> 00:39:40,820
and my cousin is nothing to do
with our business.
597
00:39:40,820 --> 00:39:42,020
So you really felt
he jumped into the river?
598
00:39:42,020 --> 00:39:44,980
Or just walked away.
You met the wife?
599
00:39:44,980 --> 00:39:45,980
We have.
600
00:39:45,980 --> 00:39:47,980
Firstly, my instinct was
601
00:39:47,980 --> 00:39:50,500
that the marriage wasn't
what she painted it as,
602
00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:52,340
and that,
coupled with genuine money worries,
603
00:39:52,340 --> 00:39:53,980
caused him to just leave.
604
00:39:53,980 --> 00:39:57,980
OK. So, how much did you lend him,
as a friend?
605
00:39:57,980 --> 00:40:00,980
12,000, which he paid back
with an interest of five.
606
00:40:00,980 --> 00:40:02,980
My guess was he had borrowed money,
607
00:40:02,980 --> 00:40:04,980
and of course,
it's possible they killed him,
608
00:40:04,980 --> 00:40:07,980
but again, my instinct was that
that wasn't the case.
609
00:40:07,980 --> 00:40:10,980
Why? Firstly,
she was pushing that too hard.
610
00:40:10,980 --> 00:40:13,980
She must have called my office half
a dozen times to push that angle.
611
00:40:13,980 --> 00:40:15,980
Maybe
because you didn't do anything.
612
00:40:15,980 --> 00:40:18,660
Because it didn't make sense.
Dead men don't pay debts.
613
00:40:18,660 --> 00:40:21,980
Even if we were
that kind of organisation,
614
00:40:21,980 --> 00:40:23,660
why would we have him killed?
615
00:40:23,660 --> 00:40:25,980
Dead men don't pay debts.
You want a theory?
616
00:40:25,980 --> 00:40:27,340
I'll give you a theory.
617
00:40:27,340 --> 00:40:29,980
There was an assault on Cooper
a few weeks before he died.
618
00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:33,820
I'd ask why the wife was so keen
to point the finger at us.
619
00:40:33,820 --> 00:40:35,980
One of his bar managers,
a Chinese girl,
620
00:40:35,980 --> 00:40:37,980
reckoned it was committed by a lad
621
00:40:37,980 --> 00:40:41,180
that Cooper employed the previous
year but who'd not got furlough.
622
00:40:41,180 --> 00:40:44,980
I'd ask how happy she was knowing
that he was with another woman.
623
00:40:45,980 --> 00:40:46,980
What other woman?
624
00:40:46,980 --> 00:40:48,980
You know his name?
No.
625
00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:50,980
But apparently, the lad had
threatened him a couple of times.
626
00:40:50,980 --> 00:40:52,820
The one always waiting in the car
627
00:40:52,820 --> 00:40:54,980
when he was dropping off
his repayments.
628
00:40:54,980 --> 00:40:57,820
If I was you,
I'd be looking for her.
629
00:40:58,980 --> 00:40:59,980
If I were you,
I'd be looking for him.
630
00:41:03,980 --> 00:41:07,980
I appreciate your help, Mr Sidhu.
Pfft, "Mr".
631
00:41:09,980 --> 00:41:10,980
It's classy.
632
00:41:14,980 --> 00:41:15,980
We're done here.
633
00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:24,980
But, listen,
if you need any more help.
634
00:41:24,980 --> 00:41:26,980
Indeed.
635
00:41:26,980 --> 00:41:28,980
And I certainly know
where to find you, don't I?
636
00:41:36,980 --> 00:41:39,020
'But right now, this is BNC.
637
00:41:39,020 --> 00:41:42,980
'It's seven o'clock,
yes, it's time for Mel's Minute.'
638
00:41:47,980 --> 00:41:49,340
Well, face masks may be gone,
639
00:41:49,340 --> 00:41:51,340
lockdowns, for now,
a thing of the past.
640
00:41:51,340 --> 00:41:53,980
But if you thought that
the wokerati would let you get on
641
00:41:53,980 --> 00:41:55,980
with simply enjoying life,
well, think again.
642
00:41:55,980 --> 00:41:57,980
This week, we saw more
highly questionable data released
643
00:41:57,980 --> 00:42:01,980
informing us that we are literally
going to burn in hell
644
00:42:01,980 --> 00:42:03,980
if we don't give up our cars,
our holidays abroad,
645
00:42:03,980 --> 00:42:06,180
and, heck, they even have it in
for my little, old log burner.
646
00:42:06,180 --> 00:42:08,020
And as I sit here
and look outside my window
647
00:42:08,020 --> 00:42:10,980
on this May evening
to see the frost outside,
648
00:42:10,980 --> 00:42:13,980
and I pull on my jumper,
I ask myself two questions.
649
00:42:13,980 --> 00:42:15,980
Why are the climate change
clap-trappers lying to us?
650
00:42:15,980 --> 00:42:19,980
And why, if the world is
now boiling, am I so frigging cold?
651
00:42:19,980 --> 00:42:21,980
Well, the answer
to the first question is
652
00:42:21,980 --> 00:42:23,980
because if we're in a state
of perpetual fear and panic,
653
00:42:23,980 --> 00:42:25,660
then we're so much easier
to control.
654
00:42:25,660 --> 00:42:26,980
If the pandemic taught us anything,
655
00:42:26,980 --> 00:42:29,980
it's that governments globe
love to keep us under their thumb.
656
00:42:29,980 --> 00:42:31,980
And the answer
to the second question is
657
00:42:31,980 --> 00:42:33,980
I'm cold
because that's how climate works.
658
00:42:33,980 --> 00:42:37,980
It is unpredictable,
always has been, always will be.
659
00:42:37,980 --> 00:42:40,980
To coin a phrase,
"Sometimes, it snows in April."
660
00:42:40,980 --> 00:42:42,660
So until next time,
661
00:42:42,660 --> 00:42:44,980
good luck, good night,
and God bless.
662
00:42:44,980 --> 00:42:47,980
Now... where are my matches?
663
00:42:48,980 --> 00:42:50,820
That is so true.
So true.
664
00:42:50,820 --> 00:42:51,980
Thank you, Mel.
665
00:42:51,980 --> 00:42:54,980
'Thanks, Mel,
and thank you for watching.
666
00:42:54,980 --> 00:42:57,980
'This has been Britannia News.
667
00:42:57,980 --> 00:42:59,980
'In Newcastle today,
further unrest...'
668
00:43:44,180 --> 00:43:46,820
They are compromising, Juliet,
669
00:43:46,820 --> 00:43:48,980
all they want to do now
is meet with you and talk.
670
00:43:48,980 --> 00:43:51,980
They want to lecture me,
Paul, we both know that.
671
00:43:51,980 --> 00:43:53,980
They want to judge me.
They really don't.
672
00:43:53,980 --> 00:43:55,980
Paul, it's the union's core skill.
673
00:43:55,980 --> 00:43:59,980
They want to judge me and wag
their pompous little fingers...
674
00:43:59,980 --> 00:44:02,980
Please, help me here.
My hands are tied.
675
00:44:02,980 --> 00:44:05,980
You've tied them yourself by
just taking this shit for too long.
676
00:44:05,980 --> 00:44:08,340
I'm doing you a favour.
I'm saying enough.
677
00:44:08,340 --> 00:44:10,980
You should be grateful.
678
00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:17,980
I know this is
the life that I chose, Mother,
679
00:44:17,980 --> 00:44:18,980
I know it's my fault.
680
00:44:18,980 --> 00:44:20,500
I was just hoping, for once,
681
00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:22,980
just, you know,
once, a little bit of empathy.
682
00:44:22,980 --> 00:44:25,980
We don't really do empathy,
darling, do we?
683
00:44:25,980 --> 00:44:28,340
And given you've rather made
a living out of that,
684
00:44:28,340 --> 00:44:30,980
it's a bit rich
expecting it yourself.
685
00:44:30,980 --> 00:44:32,980
Well, I'll say good night, then.
686
00:44:32,980 --> 00:44:36,340
I'm sure you've got some vinegar
you'd like to take a long soak in.
687
00:44:36,340 --> 00:44:38,980
Before you go, sweetie...
688
00:44:38,980 --> 00:44:41,020
did you hear about that man
we met you with at the Oaks?
689
00:44:41,020 --> 00:44:42,500
What man?
Hm.
690
00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:44,180
He was in the paper yesterday, I...
691
00:44:44,180 --> 00:44:46,820
I recognised him from the photo.
692
00:44:46,820 --> 00:44:49,500
What man?
Gerard Cooper?
693
00:44:52,980 --> 00:44:55,020
Gerard? Wow, that's a long time.
694
00:44:55,020 --> 00:44:57,980
Why was he in the paper?
695
00:44:57,980 --> 00:44:59,980
'They found his body
out in Whitney Marsh.
696
00:44:59,980 --> 00:45:02,980
'It says they're launching
a murder investigation.
697
00:45:06,980 --> 00:45:09,340
'Melinda?'
Yeah, sorry, I'm just...
698
00:45:10,980 --> 00:45:12,980
..just in shock.
699
00:45:12,980 --> 00:45:14,980
'You used to love our picnics
out in Whitney
700
00:45:14,980 --> 00:45:16,980
'when you were a little girl,
didn't you?'
701
00:45:18,980 --> 00:45:21,500
I've gotta go, Mother.
I-I'll talk to you next week.
702
00:45:24,980 --> 00:45:28,180
PODCAST HOST: 'So many have fallen
for the corrupt and evil narrative
703
00:45:28,180 --> 00:45:29,980
'that has long been broadcast...'
704
00:46:02,980 --> 00:46:04,980
'Please leave a message
after the tone.'
705
00:46:04,980 --> 00:46:07,980
Hi, it's Melinda Ricci.
706
00:46:08,980 --> 00:46:10,980
So, I just wanted to let you know
707
00:46:10,980 --> 00:46:13,980
that if you say anything to anyone
that brings people to my door...
708
00:46:15,980 --> 00:46:16,980
..you will regret it.
709
00:46:19,980 --> 00:46:23,340
'Message deleted.'
710
00:46:31,980 --> 00:46:33,980
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