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Deadly forests.
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Haunted houses.
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And mountains
where visitors...
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never return alive.
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Are there such things
as evil places?
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Places that are really
born bad.
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There are those
who believe that
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not only is such an
incredible notion possible,
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but that there are literally
thousands of these places...
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all around us.
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But how could a seemingly
harmless destination like
an amusement park...
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really be thought
of as cursed?
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Well...
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That is what
we'll try and find out.
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In central Japan,
60 miles southwest of Tokyo...
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lies the Aokigahara Forest.
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Located at the base
of Mount Fuji,
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it is considered
by the Japanese to be sacred.
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Although, in recent years,
many believe
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that these woods have become
not a holy place...
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but a place of evil.
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Each year, shockingly
high numbers of people
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come here
to end their own lives.
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So many in fact that the place
has become known as
the Suicide Forest.
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If you ever walk through
any other woods or forest,
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you'll always hear the birds,
and you hear rustling,
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and you hear
all sorts of things.
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But not in Suicide Forest,
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in Suicide Forest
it's just completely
and absolutely silent.
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I didn't see a living
thing other than those plants,
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and I certainly
didn't hear anything.
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So, it's the silence
that really hits you at first.
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It definitely had
a different feel to it,
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and that kind of raises
the anxiety.
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A lot of locals will tell you
that as they grew up near
the forest,
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they were told never
to go there.
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It's a dark, scary place.
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It's not a place for you.
Stay away from it.
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Aokigahara literally
translates as the
"field of green trees".
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This forest is also known as
the Jukai, the "sea of trees".
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Many people go and commit
suicide typically by hanging
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or also by prescription
drug overdose.
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Officials have stopped
publicizing the numbers
so as to not encourage
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more people to go there,
but it really has become
a magnet for suicides.
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At the entrance to the park,
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signs are posted advising
those who enter the forest
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with suicidal thoughts
to stop and turn back.
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It is a warning meant
to prevent people from
being swallowed up
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by the darkness of this place.
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A darkness from which
there is no return.
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These signs tell people,
"Please don't commit suicide,
think of your parents,
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think of your family."
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They give you information
on who to call if you need
some help.
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So, it's very clear that this
is a concern of theirs.
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They know it's a problem.
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And they ask you,
please, don't do this.
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And you'll see those signs everywhere,
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which remind you
of how prevalent
the problem is.
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Aokigahara is also
a non-camping forest,
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so camping
is strictly forbidden.
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Yet, people who
contemplate suicide
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sometimes bring their tents.
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We do have lots
of these traces
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of the departed
that remain in the forest.
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From personal effects
to thread marking the paths.
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Part of the mistake of Suicide
Forest is quite often,
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people who want
to commit suicide
will wear these ribbons
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because they haven't
figured out
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whether they really
want to do it or not.
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So, they'll tie the ribbon,
and if they change their mind,
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they could find their way out.
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But if they don't change
their mind...
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at the end of that ribbon,
you may find a body.
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The Suicide Forest has one of
the highest suicide rates
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of anywhere in the world.
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But unlike other such places
like the Golden Gate Bridge
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or Niagara Falls,
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where people jump
to their deaths...
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Here they come to
experience a different
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and arguably more disturbing
method of release.
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In Japanese belief,
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any person who dies
has to receive a proper,
um, ritual treatment
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in order to transition
to the world of the dead.
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If they don't receive this
very specific, generally,
Buddhist rights,
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there's a belief that the soul
of the deceased person
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will linger in the physical
plane of existence.
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If someone commits suicide
on the spot,
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it's believed that the yurei,
the ghost will be hanging
around that spot
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where they committed suicide.
They're tied to it, there.
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So, it becomes a potential
dangerous spot if other people
are just walking through it.
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They can get lured
by theyurei
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who's gonna influence
them somehow
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to commit suicide themselves.
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Aokigahara becoming
a suicide spot
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is a relatively
recent phenomenon
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that started in the 1960s.
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It can be traced back
to a novel called
the Tower of Waves,
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in which two
of the main protagonists
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could not live out their love,
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and then decided to commit
suicide together
in this forest.
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This is one of the
reasons why the forest became
a very famous suicide spot.
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It's rather strange
that they say around
a hundred bodies a year
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are found in that place.
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And it begs the question,
"Is there something about
the place itself
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that attracts people
to go there
to commit suicide?"
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It probably started
off as just a dense force,
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but as more and more people
kill themselves in this place,
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I think the evil permeates
all over the place,
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and it's probably affecting
people who go in there.
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Evil? Permeating
the atmosphere?
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Could such an extraordinary
and frightening notion
be true?
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I think everybody has gone
to a certain spot,
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and they feel uncomfortable
with it.
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They just don't know
exactly why,
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but they just
don't feel right.
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They feel like
something's wrong here.
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This doesn't feel good to me.
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It's kind of evil.
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There are certain regions
that have had bad things
happen to it,
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and you could feel it.
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We have to realize
that the human body
is one of the most
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ultimate pieces
of scientific equipment.
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You have so many different
types of sensors on your body.
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You can see, smell, hear,
taste, feel.
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And all that information
that you're receiving
from your environment
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causes you to feel
the way you do
at any given second.
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So, if your body is not
feeling right,
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and your brain is telling you
something's not right here,
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it is possible that it is
an evil location, right?
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In recent years,
scientists studying the morbid
phenomenon of Japan's
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so-called Suicide Forest
have suggested that the answer
to the mystery
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might be not a paranormal one
but geological.
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One of the really
interesting things
about Suicide Forest
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is it didn't exist
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until the last massive
eruption of Mount Fuji,
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which is more than
a thousand years ago.
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And that's what laid out
this enormous bed of lava
that eventually hardened.
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There are chambers
within the ground,
and in these chambers
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is where people will go into
and commit suicides.
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Some of them will just
take pills and lie down,
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and eventually, you'll find
a body inside one of these chambers.
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There's a possibility
that the volcanic region,
the rocks, the basalt,
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might have some sort of
piezo-electric type
material within them
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that could generate electric
and magnetic fields.
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And it's also known
that electromagnetic fields
do impact the brain activity.
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I would think
from the evidence
that this geomagnetic field
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is having some impact
on mass depression.
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The connection
between magnetic anomalies
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and chemical reactions
in the brain
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could lead
to a type of depression
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that would enhance suicide.
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You can imagine a person
who is suicidal or thinking
about suicide,
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but is fundamentally
uncomfortable of the idea,
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moving into one
of these areas,
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and this interaction makes
them just comfortable enough
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that now, they will carry
through on the suicide.
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Could hundreds
of ritual suicides
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really be the result of
magnetic anomalies
in the brain...
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caused by the unique
properties of volcanic rock?
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Or as many Japanese
themselves believe,
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could the cause be something
even more incredible?
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There's an old
saying that says,
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"What we do in life echoes
in eternity."
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If we have a forest
where hundreds of people
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have gone to that forest
to commit suicide
for over 60 years,
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could the dark energy
of all of the departed souls
be lurking there?
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And could that energy
be what is attracting people
to come to the forest?
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Tragic souls of the departed
luring others in to join them.
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A far-fetched notion,
perhaps, but no more bizarre
than what has been happening
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at the Aokigahara Forest
for the past six decades.
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And no less disturbing
than what happened to a group
of hikers on a mountain top,
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nearly 4,000 miles away.
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A mountain that the locals
have named "Don't Go There".
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January 1959...
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Nine mountaineers from the
Ural Polytechnic Institute
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embarked on a perilous journey
through Russia's
Ural Mountains.
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Their destination?
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A remote mountain peak
known as Otorten,
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which in the local Mansi
language means,
"Don't go there."
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They went out
on this very strenuous trek
or mission
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to show that the mountain
could be conquered.
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As far as we know,
they were all experienced.
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Igor Dyatlov, who was
in charge of the group,
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had about seven missions
to his name, similar missions.
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They were supposed
to just study the mountain
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to show that
they can withstand
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the incredible cold in this
desolate place and come back.
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A few days
into their trek,
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the hikers moved
through a mountain pass
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with high winds
and poor visibility...
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causing them to veer miles
off course.
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Realizing their mistake
and faced with the bitter cold
of the coming night,
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they choose to stop and camp
on a slope called
Kholat Syakhl,
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which in Mansi translates
to the "Mountain of the Dead".
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It's a very windy area.
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When I say windy,
the winds are horrible.
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And they should not have
put the tent on that slope.
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They could have
done it easily
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about 100 meters away
in the forest.
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They went against
all the knowledge
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that the experienced
trekker should have,
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so why would
they put it out there?
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What drove them?
Nobody knows for sure.
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Weeks later,
when it becomes clear
that the group
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has failed to return
from its expedition,
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a military search and rescue
operation was launched.
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They find the campsite abandoned...
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and a tent that has been
torn to pieces.
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Curiously, the investigators
determined that the tent
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was cut and ripped open
from the inside.
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And the hikers appear to have
fled in socks...
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or barefoot.
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We are dealing with a group
of experienced hikers
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who escaped their tent in the
middle of the night without
any reason,
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unless, something
happened to their minds.
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In search
of the hikers,
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the investigators moved to
the edge of a nearby forest.
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What they eventually find
has defied explanation
for more than 50 years.
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Four of them were
discovered initially and five
of them were found later.
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And they all died differently.
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Some of the bodies died
from exposure and were intact.
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Some of them
were dressed completely.
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Most of them were naked,
so to say.
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Others had horrible wounds
on them.
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Their bones were crushed
inside their bodies.
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Others, their skull
was crushed.
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One woman lost her tongue
and parts of her face.
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Others were burnt,
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like somebody put their
feet in the fire
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or they put it themselves.
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They escaped like some force,
something scared them.
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The official causes
of death for the hikers
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claimed that six have died
from hypothermia,
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and the other three,
from fatal injuries
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caused by an unknown
compelling force.
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But the inquiry was forced
to an abrupt end by the
Soviet government,
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and the chief investigator
refused to sign off on the
final report.
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There were two
investigators initially,
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and they were told
to shut up and close the case
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with the determination
that the cause of deaths
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was an invincible force
of nature that killed them.
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In some cases,
the fact that some of them
died from the bitter cold
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okay, that makes sense.
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They're in a region
that's freezing.
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But what about
the other people?
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Fractured skulls,
crushed lungs.
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There's something weird here.
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What was
the compelling force
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that inflicted such brutal
and grotesque
harm on these victims?
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While some have speculated
that it could have been
an avalanche
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or even an attack
by Mansi tribes,
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there was virtually
no evidence to support
these claims.
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Others point to local legends
of some kind of monster.
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A creature capable of tearing
people apart with its voice.
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There are descriptions
of Mansi
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warning people
not to go to this mountain,
not to go to this area
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because the sounds that come
from there can kill you.
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The entity that lives
in that mountain
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emits horrible
shrieking sounds...
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...that can destroy
human beings.
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Recently,
a new theory has surfaced.
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One that suggests
this mountain pass
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may be just as deadly as the
Mansi name for it implies.
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Not because of some
supernatural monster...
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but for a surprisingly
scientific reason.
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So, this is a very windy pass
on Ural Mountains.
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In 2014, there's some study
that was done that showed that
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the wind kind of
whipping through
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because the topography
cause low-frequency sound,
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kind of a hum.
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And low-frequency sound can
cause the eyeball to vibrate,
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can cause people to see
shadows out of the corner
of their eyes,
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especially if you're in an
environment that is desolate,
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which is what that was
to begin with.
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The dimensions and
the physics of the actual pass
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are likely to lead
to very low frequencies,
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which is exactly
what infrasound is.
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Infrasound is just referring
to any sound that's below
our normal hearing.
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But sound itself is just
pressure waves and vibration
of the air.
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So, your body
is still detecting it.
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Your ears are still
reacting to it.
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Your eardrums are moving.
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And that's still generating
electrical signals
in your brain,
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so there is an impact
of the infrasound
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that we don't fully
understand yet.
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Being exposed to this
sound is fatiguing your body.
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Any type of fatigue
that's long-term can cause
significant psychosis.
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In fact, there were several
cases on the Mir Space Station
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where the Russian cosmonauts
were exposed
to various vibrations,
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and it caused them
to actually have psychosis.
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I have a friend who worked on
consoles for Mir,
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and he said that once,
one of the cosmonauts
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actually pulled a knife
on one of the other cosmonauts
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because of this
type of exposure.
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It's not like a rock
falling on somebody's head.
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It's happening inside
their minds.
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And infrasound
is a powerful weapon.
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And apparently, it's affecting
those who are coming
to the mountain.
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That's why
it is a hypothesis now
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that is being explored more
and more in Russia
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as to the cause of death
of the Dyatlov tourists.
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I don't subscribe
to the theory that heavy winds
created an atmosphere
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where these people went nuts.
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I think there
was something else afoot,
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something very evil
and strange that happened
to these nine hikers.
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And I hope we get
the answers to it.
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But again, maybe we don't
want the answer.
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Maybe because it's so hideous
and so evil we don't want
to know it.
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Did the harsh winds
of the Dyatlov Pass
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really create
a low-frequency noise
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that caused the hikers
to lose their minds
and brutally kill each other?
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Or could it be that a
mysterious, unknown monster
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was responsible
for the hikers' deaths.
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For the nine men and women
whose bodies were found
horribly mutilated,
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the question is academic.
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As far as they
were concerned...
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evil happened here.
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And it's an evil
that isn't only found
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on remote mountaintops...
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but right next door.
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And often in the unlikeliest
of places.
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Mercer County, West Virginia.
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Here on the bank
of Lake Shawnee
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stands the abandoned remnants
of what was once a simple,
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wholesome,
family amusement park.
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Opened in 1926,
the park thrived for decades,
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until it was abruptly
closed in 1966.
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According to local historians,
the reason for the closure
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was that what started
as a playground for children
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became the site of numerous
tragic and disturbing incidents.
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In the 1940s, a little girl
was riding the swings,
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and a soda delivery truck
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delivered soda
to the concession stand.
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And whenever he did,
he backed up into the path
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of the swing,
and it killed the little girl.
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They tried to play
it down because it was a child
getting killed.
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She wasn't the only child
who got killed here.
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There were several kids
that drowned.
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One was a really sad story,
and I would hope it wouldn't
happen nowadays.
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A mother brought her
nine-year-old here
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and dropped him off
to go swimming,
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and she went on her merry way.
343
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She came back
when the park was closing
and she couldn't find her son.
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Come on.
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And they looked
for the son until 10 o'clock
at night.
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When they found him,
his arm was stuck in the drain
of the swimming pool,
347
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and it had sucked him in,
and he couldn't get out,
348
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and he had just drowned.
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There was another incident
where there was a family out
on an outing.
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They were riding a canoe
in the lake.
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The canoe overturned,
and a little boy drowned
in the lake.
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Before its doors were closed,
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six children had died
in the park.
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And that might have been
reason enough for the park
to remain closed...
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but it didn't.
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In 1985, local resident
Gaylord White purchased
the property
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with hopes of reopening it.
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In the 1950s,
Gaylord, my husband,
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worked here
when he was in high school.
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He fell in love with it.
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So, that was his wish that
someday, we would own
the park.
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And somebody had sent us word
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that the heirs had finally
decided they were gonna
sell it.
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That's how we bought it.
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We wanted to have
a children's ride park.
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For years, locals believed
that the park was haunted.
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Maybe even cursed.
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Then, in the late 1980s,
the White Family made some
curious discoveries.
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We started finding a lot
of pottery and Native American
tools and arrowheads.
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Stuff like that.
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So, we stopped
doing the bulldozing.
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We called Marshall University.
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They put together
an archeological team
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that will come down
to the park.
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They started
uncovering bodies.
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So, that's when we knew
we had a Native American
burial ground on the property.
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I know that one of the burial
sites was a Native American
fourteen-year-old girl.
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And the belief is that she
died from giving childbirth
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because the child
was buried next to her.
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A series of tragic deaths...
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at an amusement park
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built on the site of a Native
American burial ground?
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A coincidence?
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As far as paranormal
investigators are concerned...
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not a chance.
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The first time
I stepped foot on Lake Shawnee
Amusement Park,
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I felt like
I was being watched.
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There was an ominous,
just negative feeling.
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I don't necessarily believe
that places are born bad.
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I believe that things
have to occur for a place
to become negative in nature.
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People said whenever
they come to the park
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that they see the swings
move on their own.
393
00:24:01,103 --> 00:24:05,068
Or maybe they see an image
of the little girl that's
riding the swings.
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Seeing only one
swing move when I look at it
and no one else sees it,
395
00:24:13,241 --> 00:24:15,517
or it stops as soon
as someone else is looking,
396
00:24:15,517 --> 00:24:17,482
that's pretty scary.
397
00:24:17,482 --> 00:24:19,965
More than it's scary
is it's unexplained.
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00:24:22,172 --> 00:24:24,103
We tend to be scientists now.
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00:24:24,103 --> 00:24:26,379
All of this we know,
everything that's going on.
400
00:24:26,379 --> 00:24:28,965
And when you see something
that you don't understand,
401
00:24:28,965 --> 00:24:30,310
it gets to be creepy.
402
00:24:31,862 --> 00:24:34,448
Millions of people
have had these experiences,
403
00:24:34,448 --> 00:24:38,655
not just hauntings
but also ESP experiences,
and related experiences.
404
00:24:38,655 --> 00:24:42,793
These are questions
that science should be looking
at very carefully and closely.
405
00:24:42,793 --> 00:24:45,068
And to say,
oh, it's mass hallucination
406
00:24:45,068 --> 00:24:46,413
or it's this kind
of explanation
407
00:24:46,413 --> 00:24:48,379
without looking
into the experience itself,
408
00:24:48,379 --> 00:24:50,379
either the singular
or the general patterns,
409
00:24:51,344 --> 00:24:52,379
it's not scientific.
410
00:24:52,379 --> 00:24:53,793
It's highly unscientific.
411
00:24:55,758 --> 00:24:58,931
Is the dark history
of the Lake Shawnee
Amusement Park
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the result of a curse
placed upon anyone
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00:25:02,310 --> 00:25:04,551
that dares to desecrate
this sacred ground?
414
00:25:05,586 --> 00:25:09,724
Or was the area always
a place of evil?
415
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A place where bad things
will always happen...
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regardless of what
is built there.
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00:25:15,724 --> 00:25:18,586
Perhaps the answer
can be found by examining
a place
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where some people believe
evil not only happens
but can actually be measured
419
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not only in fear
and suffering,
420
00:25:26,586 --> 00:25:32,896
but scientifically, it can be
proven to be as tangible
as flesh and blood.
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00:25:42,068 --> 00:25:43,758
Cayuga, Indiana.
422
00:25:44,724 --> 00:25:46,793
February 16th, 2019.
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00:25:48,482 --> 00:25:53,275
Paranormal investigator
Dave Spinks and his associate
Haley Sharp
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have traveled here
to this small town
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to investigate a house
that many consider
to be the most evil place...
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00:26:01,689 --> 00:26:04,344
in North America.
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00:26:04,344 --> 00:26:09,689
Referred to as Willows Weep,
it has been the site of a
series of gruesome deaths
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00:26:09,689 --> 00:26:11,896
since it was built
in the 19th century.
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00:26:21,827 --> 00:26:23,758
Brenda Johnson
owns Willows Weep.
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- Hi, Brenda.
- Dave.
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00:26:25,241 --> 00:26:28,310
She dismissed the rumors
about it being an evil place
432
00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:31,103
and purchased it
only a few years ago
433
00:26:31,103 --> 00:26:32,793
with plans to renovate it.
434
00:26:32,793 --> 00:26:34,344
- This is my assistant, Haley.
- Hi.
435
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It's nice to meet you.
436
00:26:35,448 --> 00:26:37,379
But recent events
have convinced her
437
00:26:37,379 --> 00:26:41,551
that she may have made
a terrible mistake.
438
00:26:41,551 --> 00:26:43,862
To this end,
she's invited Dave and Haley
439
00:26:43,862 --> 00:26:45,793
to come and investigate
the house
440
00:26:45,793 --> 00:26:49,448
and see if her strange
experiences can be verified.
441
00:26:50,482 --> 00:26:52,344
So, how are you doing?
442
00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:54,896
Not good standing here.
443
00:26:54,896 --> 00:26:57,275
All night last night,
I was sick thinking about
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00:26:57,275 --> 00:26:59,206
coming over here
around this house.
445
00:26:59,206 --> 00:27:00,724
So, tell us a little bit
about the house,
446
00:27:00,724 --> 00:27:01,931
some of your experiences here.
447
00:27:01,931 --> 00:27:05,931
Well, when I bought the house,
we started working on it.
448
00:27:05,931 --> 00:27:08,034
And then, my son was working
on the ceiling,
449
00:27:08,034 --> 00:27:11,275
the boards come flying
off at him and hurt him,
450
00:27:11,275 --> 00:27:13,689
and I've been scratched
in there.
451
00:27:13,689 --> 00:27:15,551
Six claw marks down my back.
452
00:27:15,551 --> 00:27:20,034
Doors slamming on you,
banging underneath the floors.
453
00:27:20,034 --> 00:27:21,862
Well, I understand there's
been deaths in this house.
454
00:27:21,862 --> 00:27:23,931
- Can you kind of go through
those a little bit?
- Yeah.
455
00:27:26,275 --> 00:27:29,068
The man that built the house,
he died in the bathtub.
456
00:27:30,206 --> 00:27:32,413
There were two suicides.
457
00:27:32,413 --> 00:27:35,241
And then, another hanging.
458
00:27:35,241 --> 00:27:39,172
And I heard that three men
had been poisoned.
459
00:27:40,586 --> 00:27:43,068
About six months
prior before I bought it,
460
00:27:43,068 --> 00:27:46,793
there was a man that,
he committed suicide in there.
461
00:27:46,793 --> 00:27:49,448
- He fell into the chair.
- And that's
where they found him?
462
00:27:49,448 --> 00:27:51,379
or they found him what,
a couple of days later, right?
463
00:27:51,379 --> 00:27:53,241
- Week.
- A week. Week later. Okay.
464
00:27:56,724 --> 00:27:58,413
Do you think
what's in that house is evil?
465
00:27:58,413 --> 00:28:00,275
Yes, I do.
466
00:28:00,275 --> 00:28:02,689
- Without a doubt?
- Yes, I do, without a doubt.
467
00:28:02,689 --> 00:28:05,241
If it wasn't evil,
it wouldn't be hurting people.
468
00:28:05,241 --> 00:28:07,689
I don't think
there's nothing good in there.
469
00:28:07,689 --> 00:28:11,517
- Your house was built in the
late 1800s, correct?
- 1890, yes.
470
00:28:11,517 --> 00:28:14,413
So, regarding the shape
of the house,
471
00:28:14,413 --> 00:28:16,000
it's in the shape of a,
a cross.
472
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,068
Upside down cross.
473
00:28:18,379 --> 00:28:19,655
Strange.
474
00:28:19,655 --> 00:28:21,310
Yes, very strange.
475
00:28:23,655 --> 00:28:25,689
Do you think the guy
was into some weird stuff,
476
00:28:25,689 --> 00:28:27,793
like occult stuff,
that built it?
477
00:28:27,793 --> 00:28:29,517
Why would you build
a house like it,
478
00:28:29,517 --> 00:28:31,241
if he wasn't into something?
479
00:28:31,241 --> 00:28:32,689
Absolutely.
480
00:28:32,689 --> 00:28:35,448
So, we're getting ready going
into this house
and investigate it.
481
00:28:35,448 --> 00:28:37,689
- Would you like to join us?
- No, no way.
482
00:28:37,689 --> 00:28:39,793
Never go back
in there again, ever.
483
00:28:39,793 --> 00:28:42,068
All right. We're gonna go in
there and investigate.
484
00:28:42,068 --> 00:28:42,931
All right.
485
00:28:46,379 --> 00:28:47,931
- Here we go.
- All right.
486
00:28:51,310 --> 00:28:52,275
Pretty heavy in here.
487
00:28:53,482 --> 00:28:54,413
Definitely.
488
00:28:57,517 --> 00:28:58,620
Well, where you wanna
get set up?
489
00:28:59,206 --> 00:29:01,344
- Right here.
- Okay.
490
00:29:01,344 --> 00:29:04,482
To see if the house might
contain strange anomalies,
491
00:29:04,482 --> 00:29:07,413
Dave and Haley
will use a temperature sensor,
492
00:29:07,413 --> 00:29:13,137
which can detect fluctuations
in both temperature and
electromagnetic fields.
493
00:29:13,137 --> 00:29:16,448
All right, 41, 40 degrees,
and it's going down.
494
00:29:23,689 --> 00:29:25,517
It really likes this area.
495
00:29:26,103 --> 00:29:27,068
Yeah.
496
00:29:28,241 --> 00:29:29,241
It's going nuts.
497
00:29:30,931 --> 00:29:33,034
The temperature sensor
has been dropping steadily,
498
00:29:33,034 --> 00:29:35,000
by as much as nine degrees.
499
00:29:35,758 --> 00:29:37,344
But why?
500
00:29:37,344 --> 00:29:40,689
So, this room is appearing
to be pretty active so far.
501
00:29:40,689 --> 00:29:43,068
I mean,
the whole house really is,
502
00:29:43,068 --> 00:29:47,000
but we've got a lot of hits
right here on this device.
503
00:29:48,206 --> 00:29:50,655
This is the chair
that Brenda was talking about.
504
00:29:50,655 --> 00:29:52,448
Yeah, look at the blood on it.
505
00:29:52,448 --> 00:29:57,862
It's a really sad,
heavy feeling right here
too in the pit of my stomach.
506
00:29:57,862 --> 00:30:01,827
Almost immediately,
the device started going off
in the chair
507
00:30:01,827 --> 00:30:04,862
where the man who killed
himself in the house
508
00:30:04,862 --> 00:30:07,000
several years ago
was found in.
509
00:30:07,758 --> 00:30:09,551
Something there.
510
00:30:09,551 --> 00:30:12,000
Could the strange
changes in the temperature
of the house
511
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,034
be caused by some
explainable force?
512
00:30:15,034 --> 00:30:17,034
A sudden drop
in barometric pressure
513
00:30:17,034 --> 00:30:20,586
caused by the presence
of a deep
underground well, perhaps.
514
00:30:23,034 --> 00:30:26,000
Or could it be caused
by something else?
515
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,413
Something that can't yet
be explained?
516
00:30:30,448 --> 00:30:33,724
Well, I'm getting
the sickness, the headache.
517
00:30:33,724 --> 00:30:37,413
Definitely something
negative in here,
in my opinion.
518
00:30:37,413 --> 00:30:39,310
- I agree.
- All right,
so let's get out of here.
519
00:30:39,310 --> 00:30:40,379
- Let's go.
- All right.
520
00:30:41,551 --> 00:30:44,103
Dave and Haley
are beginning to suspect
521
00:30:44,103 --> 00:30:46,758
that the stories
of Willows Weep
being an evil place...
522
00:30:48,241 --> 00:30:50,896
might be based on more
than fear and superstition.
523
00:30:53,103 --> 00:30:54,724
House is scary.
524
00:30:54,724 --> 00:30:57,068
I wouldn't wanna be
in this house alone.
525
00:30:57,068 --> 00:30:59,310
Let's say this house
does have some evil in it.
526
00:30:59,310 --> 00:31:01,862
It does not give you
a good feeling.
527
00:31:01,862 --> 00:31:04,068
It wants to suck
the life out of you.
528
00:31:06,793 --> 00:31:12,310
I've been to many locations,
and this one stands out
above all of them so far.
529
00:31:12,310 --> 00:31:17,206
In my personal opinion,
there are many spirits
and entities in this house.
530
00:31:17,206 --> 00:31:20,448
There are human spirits
and possibly demonic spirits
531
00:31:20,448 --> 00:31:24,137
that influenced the humans
that have lived in this house,
532
00:31:24,137 --> 00:31:28,206
and quite possibly,
have caused them
to harm themselves.
533
00:31:30,448 --> 00:31:33,620
Once outside,
Dave and Haley give owner
Brenda Johnson
534
00:31:33,620 --> 00:31:35,896
a report on their findings,
535
00:31:35,896 --> 00:31:40,206
but not before Dave
makes Brenda
a rather surprising offer.
536
00:31:40,206 --> 00:31:42,758
- I know you really
don't like this place.
- No.
537
00:31:42,758 --> 00:31:45,137
- And I know that
you want to get rid of it.
- Yeah.
538
00:31:45,137 --> 00:31:47,655
Because I'd like to purchase
the house from you.
539
00:31:49,517 --> 00:31:50,379
Mm-hmm.
540
00:31:50,758 --> 00:31:52,241
Okay. Yes.
541
00:31:52,241 --> 00:31:54,896
Dave is willing
to be the next owner
of Willows Weep.
542
00:31:54,896 --> 00:31:57,068
- All right. Thank you.
- Thank you, hon.
543
00:31:57,068 --> 00:31:59,655
I told Brenda,
if I own this house,
544
00:31:59,655 --> 00:32:01,793
I can investigate
it much further
545
00:32:02,827 --> 00:32:04,310
and much more in-depth,
546
00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:07,137
and possibly come
to a conclusion
547
00:32:07,137 --> 00:32:10,793
as to what's causing the evil
that lurks within its walls.
548
00:32:10,793 --> 00:32:13,137
That is if something
doesn't happen to me first.
549
00:32:14,379 --> 00:32:16,379
Luckily for me, she agreed.
550
00:32:16,379 --> 00:32:18,000
She really couldn't
wait to sell the place.
551
00:32:20,482 --> 00:32:24,310
Was Willows Weep really built
to attract evil spirits?
552
00:32:25,482 --> 00:32:28,137
For Brenda Johnson,
Dave Spinks, and Haley Sharp,
553
00:32:28,137 --> 00:32:32,482
the answer
is a very disturbing "yes".
554
00:32:32,482 --> 00:32:38,379
But why would someone
deliberately want
to construct an evil place?
555
00:32:38,379 --> 00:32:40,724
Unless perhaps
it wasn't meant to attract...
556
00:32:41,482 --> 00:32:42,827
demonic spirits...
557
00:32:42,827 --> 00:32:44,034
but to entrap them.
558
00:32:45,862 --> 00:32:47,793
In an effort to create
a deadly warning...
559
00:32:48,896 --> 00:32:51,793
that demons are real.
560
00:32:59,068 --> 00:33:00,000
Honduras.
561
00:33:00,620 --> 00:33:02,275
February 2015.
562
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:05,620
Deep in the heart
of the jungle,
563
00:33:05,620 --> 00:33:09,827
a team of American explorers,
journalists, and archeologists
564
00:33:09,827 --> 00:33:11,724
make a dramatic discovery.
565
00:33:11,724 --> 00:33:16,655
Evidence of an ancient city
that has been lost
for more than 500 years.
566
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,896
We were standing there
on the banks of this river,
567
00:33:20,896 --> 00:33:23,689
and the archeologist
was pointing
to this wall of jungle
568
00:33:23,689 --> 00:33:25,448
and saying across the river,
569
00:33:25,448 --> 00:33:27,827
that's the beginning
of the lost city.
570
00:33:31,206 --> 00:33:35,655
So, we crossed the river,
with soldiers with machetes
cutting a path for us.
571
00:33:38,275 --> 00:33:42,000
And all of a sudden,
there it is rising up
out of the jungle.
572
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,586
Just straight up practically.
573
00:33:43,586 --> 00:33:44,965
It was the most amazing thing.
574
00:33:49,172 --> 00:33:54,965
And then what we saw
was a cache of sacred objects
carved out of stone
575
00:33:54,965 --> 00:33:58,482
that have been left
at the time the city
was abandoned.
576
00:33:58,482 --> 00:34:01,068
And this was
a gigantic mystery.
577
00:34:02,482 --> 00:34:05,068
Why did these people
leave all of a sudden?
578
00:34:08,758 --> 00:34:10,379
The expedition announced
579
00:34:10,379 --> 00:34:13,137
that they had uncovered
the top level of a vast city,
580
00:34:13,137 --> 00:34:17,206
which has been buried
under centuries
of jungle vegetation.
581
00:34:17,206 --> 00:34:19,862
Soon afterwards,
many began to speculate
582
00:34:19,862 --> 00:34:23,206
as to whether the ruins
were those
of a legendary place
583
00:34:23,206 --> 00:34:25,862
known to Hondurans
as Ciudad Blanca
584
00:34:26,724 --> 00:34:29,137
or the White City.
585
00:34:29,137 --> 00:34:32,068
A place that was believed
to have been deserted
centuries ago...
586
00:34:32,896 --> 00:34:34,689
because of a deadly curse.
587
00:34:36,482 --> 00:34:39,931
We went to do
our ground expedition in 2015.
588
00:34:39,931 --> 00:34:41,965
Many of the local Hondurans
589
00:34:41,965 --> 00:34:44,586
and the Honduran
Air Force people,
they were with us,
590
00:34:44,586 --> 00:34:46,241
and the Special Forces
people said,
591
00:34:46,241 --> 00:34:48,103
"My grandmother
and my grandfather
592
00:34:48,103 --> 00:34:50,517
told me all about
the lost city
when we were kids."
593
00:34:50,517 --> 00:34:51,551
And they said it's cursed.
594
00:34:52,275 --> 00:34:53,413
They said, if you go there...
595
00:34:54,448 --> 00:34:56,000
and you pick
any of the flowers...
596
00:34:57,896 --> 00:34:59,689
you will die.
You will never come back.
597
00:35:03,482 --> 00:35:05,758
In the case of
the White City,
598
00:35:05,758 --> 00:35:09,655
there is a very interesting
tradition of a Tawahka Indian
599
00:35:09,655 --> 00:35:12,103
who came to live there
with them.
600
00:35:12,103 --> 00:35:14,689
And they refused him shelter,
chased him out.
601
00:35:15,793 --> 00:35:17,758
And in turn,
he cursed the city.
602
00:35:17,758 --> 00:35:19,172
And he cursed that area...
603
00:35:21,379 --> 00:35:25,689
so that it became, basically,
a poisonous area to live in.
604
00:35:25,689 --> 00:35:27,482
And the people had
to abandon their city
and leave.
605
00:35:31,206 --> 00:35:33,448
You know,
we heard these stories,
606
00:35:33,448 --> 00:35:35,172
but you know,
we're scientists.
607
00:35:35,172 --> 00:35:39,620
We're anthropologists,
archeologists, ethnobotanists.
608
00:35:39,620 --> 00:35:41,517
You know, we don't
believe in curses.
609
00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:44,413
Or so we thought.
610
00:35:44,413 --> 00:35:48,758
But, you know,
sometimes curses are based
on the truth.
611
00:35:53,344 --> 00:35:56,275
After we completed
our first ground expedition,
612
00:35:56,275 --> 00:35:57,758
everybody came back alive.
613
00:35:57,758 --> 00:35:59,241
Nobody got injured.
614
00:35:59,241 --> 00:36:00,344
We're shaking hands,
615
00:36:00,344 --> 00:36:03,241
tipping a beer,
and going,
"Great, we made it!"
616
00:36:03,241 --> 00:36:05,068
You know, everyone survived.
617
00:36:05,068 --> 00:36:06,517
We all had hundreds
of bug bites.
618
00:36:08,862 --> 00:36:10,413
Didn't think anything of them.
619
00:36:10,413 --> 00:36:11,586
Until about a month later.
620
00:36:13,551 --> 00:36:18,344
In 60 percent of our crew,
including the Hondurans,
621
00:36:18,344 --> 00:36:20,068
they had a bug bite
that didn't go away.
622
00:36:20,586 --> 00:36:21,413
It got bigger.
623
00:36:23,241 --> 00:36:25,620
Eventually, it became
a big open wound,
624
00:36:25,620 --> 00:36:26,758
a big open ulcer.
625
00:36:28,551 --> 00:36:30,551
A couple of people
became very, very ill.
626
00:36:30,551 --> 00:36:31,482
Two of them almost died.
627
00:36:33,344 --> 00:36:35,034
And then we had them
diagnosed with NIH,
628
00:36:35,034 --> 00:36:37,827
and they said,
"Yes, you have leishmaniasis."
629
00:36:37,827 --> 00:36:40,034
But not even just
regular leishmaniasis,
630
00:36:40,034 --> 00:36:41,241
this is an entirely new one.
631
00:36:41,241 --> 00:36:43,586
We just did
a genetic sequence...
632
00:36:43,586 --> 00:36:46,137
and it's a really virulent one
we've never seen before.
633
00:36:48,758 --> 00:36:51,862
More commonly known
as flesh-eating disease,
634
00:36:51,862 --> 00:36:55,068
leishmaniasis is a rare parasitic disease
635
00:36:55,068 --> 00:36:58,344
that is spread by the bites
of certain sandflies.
636
00:36:58,344 --> 00:37:03,448
The infliction eats away
at the skin of the limbs,
nose, and mouth.
637
00:37:03,448 --> 00:37:07,482
The new strain that infected
the explorers
is particularly aggressive.
638
00:37:07,482 --> 00:37:08,724
And if not treated properly...
639
00:37:09,827 --> 00:37:10,827
fatal.
640
00:37:12,379 --> 00:37:13,724
But even so,
641
00:37:13,724 --> 00:37:17,448
a parasitic disease
is hardly proof
of an ancient curse.
642
00:37:18,586 --> 00:37:20,103
Or is it?
643
00:37:21,344 --> 00:37:23,620
What's interesting
about the legend of this curse
644
00:37:23,620 --> 00:37:25,965
is that it actually
does appear to be true.
645
00:37:25,965 --> 00:37:29,103
How can we explain that
hundreds of years ago,
646
00:37:29,103 --> 00:37:31,103
a man left a curse saying that
647
00:37:31,103 --> 00:37:34,448
forevermore,
people will be ravaged
by disease
648
00:37:34,448 --> 00:37:35,448
and all of these things.
649
00:37:35,448 --> 00:37:37,620
And then,
we actually see it happen.
650
00:37:38,758 --> 00:37:40,379
Was it merely a coincidence
651
00:37:40,379 --> 00:37:43,551
that the American team
happen to contract a deadly
652
00:37:43,551 --> 00:37:46,206
and previously unknown disease
653
00:37:46,206 --> 00:37:47,551
at a site
believed to be cursed?
654
00:37:49,793 --> 00:37:52,931
Or could the curse
have been real?
655
00:37:52,931 --> 00:37:55,551
As far as journalist
Doug Preston is concerned,
656
00:37:55,551 --> 00:37:57,586
the answer is obvious.
657
00:37:57,586 --> 00:38:00,310
I used to think
that curses were
just kind of silly,
658
00:38:00,827 --> 00:38:02,000
but not anymore.
659
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,931
Next time I go somewhere,
and I'm told that it's cursed,
660
00:38:05,931 --> 00:38:07,517
I'm really gonna
think twice about it.
661
00:38:09,172 --> 00:38:12,000
If evil places
really do exist...
662
00:38:13,206 --> 00:38:15,137
is it possible to cure them?
663
00:38:15,137 --> 00:38:16,689
To rid them of the pestilence
664
00:38:16,689 --> 00:38:19,896
that infects anyone
who gets too close?
665
00:38:19,896 --> 00:38:23,482
There are those who believe
the answer is a profound yes.
666
00:38:23,482 --> 00:38:25,965
And it involves
fighting fire...
667
00:38:27,655 --> 00:38:28,517
...with fire.
668
00:38:39,758 --> 00:38:41,724
Dogotuki Village, Fiji.
669
00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:43,448
July 2018.
670
00:38:44,758 --> 00:38:47,689
Members of a church group
set two houses on fire
671
00:38:47,689 --> 00:38:48,758
and burned them to the ground.
672
00:38:50,137 --> 00:38:53,620
The blaze is intended to purge
the village of evil spirits
673
00:38:53,620 --> 00:38:54,896
believed to have
been responsible
674
00:38:54,896 --> 00:38:56,551
for the recent deaths
of 20 people.
675
00:39:00,965 --> 00:39:02,724
These houses
were older houses,
676
00:39:02,724 --> 00:39:05,310
but they have been
traditionally associated
677
00:39:05,310 --> 00:39:06,793
with magical practices...
678
00:39:08,137 --> 00:39:10,689
and the reports of witchcraft
being practiced.
679
00:39:10,689 --> 00:39:13,827
And as they burnt
the places down to the ground,
680
00:39:13,827 --> 00:39:17,000
some of the villagers
reported seeing a demon
come out of the ashes.
681
00:39:18,758 --> 00:39:21,172
And they've reported all kinds
of really creepy things
682
00:39:21,172 --> 00:39:23,655
that happened once they tried
to burn down those houses.
683
00:39:24,931 --> 00:39:26,965
So, the question is,
were they successful
684
00:39:26,965 --> 00:39:29,896
in getting rid
of evil in that place?
685
00:39:29,896 --> 00:39:32,724
Or did they actually
just aggravate it more
686
00:39:32,724 --> 00:39:34,551
by burning those houses
to the ground?
687
00:39:37,655 --> 00:39:42,517
Fire, it's a very common means
of spiritual purification.
688
00:39:42,517 --> 00:39:47,000
And so many different
traditions incorporate fire
in some sense...
689
00:39:48,068 --> 00:39:52,034
very often for its
destructive properties.
690
00:39:52,034 --> 00:39:55,655
And yet, at the same time,
cleansing properties.
691
00:39:55,655 --> 00:39:57,517
I've had a lot
of people on my radio show
692
00:39:57,517 --> 00:40:02,965
who have apparently
cleansed haunted houses
and haunted areas.
693
00:40:02,965 --> 00:40:07,689
They talk about putting sage
around the perimeter
of the house.
694
00:40:07,689 --> 00:40:10,965
And things like that
that chase away
the evil spirits.
695
00:40:12,310 --> 00:40:15,172
But by and large,
I'm not sure if that works.
696
00:40:15,172 --> 00:40:17,103
I think once a place
is haunted,
697
00:40:17,689 --> 00:40:18,931
it's gonna haunt.
698
00:40:18,931 --> 00:40:22,034
It's gonna do what it does.
699
00:40:22,034 --> 00:40:24,931
I think there are
energies in life
that we don't understand.
700
00:40:24,931 --> 00:40:27,482
Either created
through our own minds,
701
00:40:27,482 --> 00:40:29,310
and our own physical energy.
702
00:40:29,310 --> 00:40:32,655
Or perhaps,
the physical energy
of a place.
703
00:40:33,655 --> 00:40:36,206
There are places
where people have died,
704
00:40:36,206 --> 00:40:38,448
either violently
or tragically.
705
00:40:38,448 --> 00:40:41,620
And that creates
this dark energy.
706
00:40:41,620 --> 00:40:45,689
There might be some
negative spirits, some ghosts.
707
00:40:45,689 --> 00:40:48,172
And that force
that's happening within it
708
00:40:48,172 --> 00:40:49,448
can also affect people.
709
00:40:51,482 --> 00:40:54,620
I've been to some of
the most evil and
nasty locations
710
00:40:54,620 --> 00:40:55,517
you can imagine.
711
00:40:56,206 --> 00:40:57,379
And I've seen people's lives
712
00:40:57,379 --> 00:41:00,862
ruined by these negative
evil forces.
713
00:41:00,862 --> 00:41:03,862
And in my opinion,
some of these locations
714
00:41:03,862 --> 00:41:06,068
are stained forever
715
00:41:06,068 --> 00:41:10,241
with the blood and the energy
of these tragic events.
716
00:41:10,931 --> 00:41:11,896
These murders.
717
00:41:12,413 --> 00:41:14,206
These suicides.
718
00:41:14,206 --> 00:41:16,586
And to me,
that can never go away.
719
00:41:22,413 --> 00:41:23,241
Fire...
720
00:41:25,482 --> 00:41:29,724
cleansing the evil
that infects
certain cursed places.
721
00:41:29,724 --> 00:41:31,448
Nonsense, right?
722
00:41:31,448 --> 00:41:34,068
As far as you're concerned
there's no such thing
as evil places.
723
00:41:34,068 --> 00:41:36,137
Well...
724
00:41:36,137 --> 00:41:38,620
Then maybe you'd like
to spend the night
at Willows Weep.
725
00:41:39,689 --> 00:41:40,862
Hm?
726
00:41:40,862 --> 00:41:45,413
Or ride the swing set
at Lake Shawnee
Amusement Park?
727
00:41:45,413 --> 00:41:48,620
Or perhaps, you'd like
to have a picnic lunch
728
00:41:49,241 --> 00:41:51,551
at Japan's Suicide Forest?
729
00:41:52,379 --> 00:41:53,206
No?
730
00:41:54,620 --> 00:41:55,896
What's the matter,
are you frightened?
731
00:41:57,482 --> 00:41:59,241
Or you're just too smart...
732
00:42:00,241 --> 00:42:02,241
to tamper
with things in the world...
733
00:42:02,931 --> 00:42:03,827
that are the...
734
00:42:05,620 --> 00:42:06,586
unexplained.
64324
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