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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,041 --> 00:00:02,226 When we talk about drugs like oxycodone, 2 00:00:02,250 --> 00:00:03,125 you're talking about drugs that are 3 00:00:03,208 --> 00:00:04,917 essentially heroin pills. 4 00:00:05,417 --> 00:00:07,226 I was pretty convinced that we had a major problem 5 00:00:07,250 --> 00:00:08,250 on our hands. 6 00:00:10,041 --> 00:00:11,750 This is the first time I've ever seen this. 7 00:00:11,917 --> 00:00:14,500 Purdue didn't have any evidence that the drug was safe, 8 00:00:14,583 --> 00:00:17,208 so the company obtained the help of a medical officer 9 00:00:17,291 --> 00:00:20,959 in FDA to claim that OxyContin was not prone to abuse. 10 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:23,792 If you're Richard Sackler, if you're Purdue, 11 00:00:23,875 --> 00:00:27,166 that means your army of sales reps can go out and say 12 00:00:27,250 --> 00:00:28,625 that the FDA approved this. 13 00:00:30,125 --> 00:00:31,959 They knew that OxyContin was being abused. 14 00:00:32,208 --> 00:00:34,333 When you're in that much pain and you're addicted 15 00:00:34,417 --> 00:00:37,125 at such a high dose, you're a trapped rat. 16 00:00:38,291 --> 00:00:40,750 Purdue ends up getting pursued by the authorities. 17 00:00:40,834 --> 00:00:44,709 The Justice Department effectively agreed to bury 18 00:00:44,792 --> 00:00:45,792 critical information. 19 00:00:46,166 --> 00:00:49,208 Purdue made about nine billion dollars 20 00:00:49,500 --> 00:00:50,709 marketing OxyContin. 21 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,291 They paid 600 million to the government. 22 00:00:53,583 --> 00:00:56,208 You are basically telling pharmaceutical companies 23 00:00:56,417 --> 00:00:58,500 you have a green light to do this. 24 00:00:58,792 --> 00:01:00,166 They paid the speeding ticket. 25 00:01:36,667 --> 00:01:38,417 Drug overdose deaths across the U.S. 26 00:01:38,500 --> 00:01:40,500 have more than tripled since 1990. 27 00:01:40,583 --> 00:01:42,291 40 people die every day 28 00:01:42,375 --> 00:01:44,166 from prescription painkiller overdoses. 29 00:01:44,250 --> 00:01:46,083 The trajectory has simply been upward. 30 00:01:46,166 --> 00:01:48,000 It's America's silent epidemic. 31 00:01:48,083 --> 00:01:50,625 A plague in our country. 32 00:02:10,917 --> 00:02:13,125 - Good afternoon. - How are you? 33 00:02:15,083 --> 00:02:18,125 We have with us today Joe Rannazzisi. 34 00:02:18,208 --> 00:02:20,709 He is retired from the DEA. 35 00:02:22,250 --> 00:02:25,166 The opioid crisis started with prescriptions. 36 00:02:25,250 --> 00:02:27,083 Prescriptions and patient care... 37 00:02:27,166 --> 00:02:30,166 This idea that we weren't adequately treating pain. 38 00:02:30,250 --> 00:02:33,083 Drugs like OxyContin come on to the market 39 00:02:33,166 --> 00:02:35,208 and thought provokers and medical experts 40 00:02:35,291 --> 00:02:37,875 began to preach the gospel of the opioid. 41 00:02:39,625 --> 00:02:40,959 We started using the pain scale. 42 00:02:41,041 --> 00:02:42,500 "Pain is the fifth vital sign." 43 00:02:42,583 --> 00:02:45,500 They developed new medical terms like "pseudoaddiction." 44 00:02:45,583 --> 00:02:47,041 Craziness. 45 00:02:47,125 --> 00:02:49,375 Your body builds a tolerance, you need more drug. 46 00:02:49,458 --> 00:02:51,667 As you need more drug, you need stronger drug. 47 00:02:51,750 --> 00:02:53,667 As you get stronger drug, it's more expensive. 48 00:02:53,750 --> 00:02:57,041 And instead of buying $150 worth of pills a day, 49 00:02:57,125 --> 00:03:00,000 you're buying $20 or $30 of heroin bags a day. 50 00:03:00,083 --> 00:03:02,333 The problem encroaching on Colorado. 51 00:03:02,417 --> 00:03:03,768 Taking a toll on the Magnolia State. 52 00:03:03,792 --> 00:03:05,500 More and more lives in Farmburg County... 53 00:03:05,583 --> 00:03:07,142 - Woodland Hills... - West Palm Beach... 54 00:03:07,166 --> 00:03:08,542 - Springfield area... - Denver... 55 00:03:08,625 --> 00:03:11,583 Right now we have this wide-ranging 56 00:03:11,667 --> 00:03:14,667 amount of fentanyl and fentanyl by-products, 57 00:03:14,750 --> 00:03:16,333 and it's killing a lot of people. 58 00:03:17,667 --> 00:03:18,709 The synthetic opioid 59 00:03:18,792 --> 00:03:21,208 is the deadliest drug in the United States. 60 00:03:21,291 --> 00:03:23,542 Five people OD'd on the same day in January. 61 00:03:23,625 --> 00:03:25,208 We lost three people last weekend. 62 00:03:25,291 --> 00:03:26,959 We didn't just wake up one day and say, 63 00:03:27,041 --> 00:03:29,375 "Everybody just switch over to fentanyl." 64 00:03:29,458 --> 00:03:32,166 It was a progression, and it was a natural progression. 65 00:03:32,250 --> 00:03:34,583 Here in Cook County, it's three deaths per day. 66 00:03:34,667 --> 00:03:37,583 Mississippi's seen close to 200 overdose deaths. 67 00:03:37,667 --> 00:03:39,417 Opioid deaths are up 20% 68 00:03:39,500 --> 00:03:41,333 since the start of the pandemic. 69 00:03:41,417 --> 00:03:43,375 And overdose death is underreported. 70 00:03:43,458 --> 00:03:44,709 We know that for sure. 71 00:03:44,792 --> 00:03:47,417 So we really don't know how many people died. 72 00:03:47,500 --> 00:03:48,643 Hundreds of cities, counties, 73 00:03:48,667 --> 00:03:49,917 and states across the country 74 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,917 have launched a wide-ranging lawsuit 75 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,476 targeting the pharmaceutical industry. 76 00:03:53,500 --> 00:03:54,542 To stop the behaviors. 77 00:03:54,625 --> 00:03:56,417 To hold these folks accountable. 78 00:03:56,500 --> 00:03:57,417 Enough is enough. 79 00:03:57,500 --> 00:04:00,417 We've got people dying on our streets. 80 00:04:00,500 --> 00:04:02,625 We started seeing massive amounts of death. 81 00:04:02,709 --> 00:04:06,917 Our prescriptions by 2012 were over 250 million. 82 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:07,875 The question is, why? 83 00:04:07,959 --> 00:04:09,319 Are we the only people in the world 84 00:04:09,375 --> 00:04:10,709 that know how to treat pain? 85 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:14,083 No. 86 00:04:14,166 --> 00:04:16,583 We consume that much 87 00:04:16,667 --> 00:04:18,750 because our policies 88 00:04:18,834 --> 00:04:22,250 are basically created by the manufacturers. 89 00:04:38,917 --> 00:04:41,083 So we've reached out to all the companies. 90 00:04:41,166 --> 00:04:42,375 We have all the responses, 91 00:04:42,458 --> 00:04:44,333 which we have woven into the story. 92 00:04:44,417 --> 00:04:45,291 Yeah. 93 00:04:45,375 --> 00:04:47,166 Half the company's declined to comment 94 00:04:47,250 --> 00:04:48,959 because of the ongoing litigation, 95 00:04:49,041 --> 00:04:50,667 and then the other half, you know, 96 00:04:50,750 --> 00:04:52,125 issued fairly lengthy statements. 97 00:04:52,208 --> 00:04:55,000 Purdue, Johnson & Johnson, all commented. 98 00:04:55,083 --> 00:04:59,125 What's their, you know, main defense right now? 99 00:04:59,208 --> 00:05:01,000 Yeah, FDA-approved drugs, 100 00:05:01,083 --> 00:05:04,500 that they weren't doing anything illegal. 101 00:05:04,583 --> 00:05:06,291 Each point they pushed back on. 102 00:05:06,375 --> 00:05:07,458 Okay. 103 00:05:07,542 --> 00:05:09,709 You know, one of the remaining questions is, 104 00:05:09,792 --> 00:05:12,500 are there gonna be any criminal charges against anybody? 105 00:05:12,583 --> 00:05:16,166 And whether they're coordinated by the Department of Justice 106 00:05:16,250 --> 00:05:19,041 or if they're individual investigations 107 00:05:19,125 --> 00:05:20,875 by U.S. Attorneys Offices. 108 00:05:20,959 --> 00:05:22,000 We're not quite sure, 109 00:05:22,083 --> 00:05:24,041 but there's something happening. 110 00:05:27,417 --> 00:05:28,976 Narrator: The investigative team at the "Post" 111 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,333 began to follow leads to a very big story. 112 00:05:32,417 --> 00:05:35,166 Some of America's largest pharmaceutical companies 113 00:05:35,250 --> 00:05:38,000 were not only profiting from the opioid crisis, 114 00:05:38,083 --> 00:05:41,333 they may have been manufacturing it. 115 00:05:41,417 --> 00:05:43,333 The origin of the opioid story 116 00:05:43,417 --> 00:05:45,375 began with the role of Purdue Pharma 117 00:05:45,458 --> 00:05:48,333 and the family who controlled it... the Sacklers. 118 00:05:50,125 --> 00:05:52,834 We have had many run-ins with the Sacklers recently. 119 00:05:52,917 --> 00:05:56,583 Their main point of contention 120 00:05:56,667 --> 00:05:59,709 is that they did not ignite 121 00:05:59,792 --> 00:06:02,250 the opioid crisis singlehandedly. 122 00:06:02,333 --> 00:06:05,166 Whether you believe that or don't believe that, 123 00:06:05,250 --> 00:06:08,917 there is voluminous evidence that the crisis began 124 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,208 when OxyContin hit the streets. 125 00:06:11,291 --> 00:06:15,041 Purdue led the charge, Sackler came up with the idea, 126 00:06:15,125 --> 00:06:17,542 and everybody else followed. 127 00:06:17,625 --> 00:06:21,250 Other drug companies moved into that market 128 00:06:21,333 --> 00:06:23,667 that Purdue had created. 129 00:06:23,750 --> 00:06:25,750 They moved into that huge opioid 130 00:06:25,834 --> 00:06:27,834 multibillion-dollar market. 131 00:06:27,917 --> 00:06:30,041 So other manufacturers began 132 00:06:30,125 --> 00:06:32,125 making generic versions 133 00:06:32,208 --> 00:06:33,125 of OxyContin... 134 00:06:33,208 --> 00:06:36,417 Oxycodone, hydrocodone, 135 00:06:36,500 --> 00:06:38,417 drug distributors started sending 136 00:06:38,500 --> 00:06:40,792 massive amounts of these drugs downstream 137 00:06:40,875 --> 00:06:44,125 because there were corrupt doctors all over the country. 138 00:06:44,208 --> 00:06:46,375 It became like the Wild West. 139 00:06:46,458 --> 00:06:49,750 This was a new drug cartel that was being established 140 00:06:49,834 --> 00:06:50,875 in the United States. 141 00:06:50,959 --> 00:06:53,041 But instead of coming in from a foreign country, 142 00:06:53,125 --> 00:06:56,083 there were drug dealers who were wearing suits 143 00:06:56,166 --> 00:06:58,750 and lab coats. 144 00:06:58,834 --> 00:07:01,083 I think that's it. 145 00:07:01,166 --> 00:07:03,917 - Go and do. - All right. 146 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,583 Narrator: To penetrate the network 147 00:07:05,667 --> 00:07:07,125 of corporate drug dealers, 148 00:07:07,208 --> 00:07:09,583 the investigative unit at the "Post" needed help 149 00:07:09,667 --> 00:07:11,625 from an inside source, 150 00:07:11,709 --> 00:07:13,041 someone with firsthand knowledge 151 00:07:13,125 --> 00:07:15,041 of the way the deals worked 152 00:07:15,125 --> 00:07:18,166 and how they turned into crimes. 153 00:07:18,250 --> 00:07:19,333 On a tip, 154 00:07:19,417 --> 00:07:24,417 they contacted a retired DEA agent, Joe Rannazzisi. 155 00:07:24,500 --> 00:07:26,417 Eventually got him on the phone. 156 00:07:26,500 --> 00:07:31,291 He was very animated, and he was very upset. 157 00:07:31,375 --> 00:07:33,125 He had a lot of great information 158 00:07:33,208 --> 00:07:35,667 and, essentially, we just kept on talking, 159 00:07:35,750 --> 00:07:37,208 and I figured, "Okay." 160 00:07:37,291 --> 00:07:39,101 "If he's not crazy and he's not making this up, 161 00:07:39,125 --> 00:07:40,959 this is a really good story." 162 00:07:41,041 --> 00:07:43,417 I'd like to thank you for the opportunity to appear today 163 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:45,166 to discuss prescription drug diversion 164 00:07:45,250 --> 00:07:46,792 and the critical role the DEA plays... 165 00:07:46,875 --> 00:07:48,142 Narrator: Before he left the DEA, 166 00:07:48,166 --> 00:07:51,000 Rannazzisi repeatedly tried to warn Congress 167 00:07:51,083 --> 00:07:52,792 about prescription drug abuse. 168 00:07:52,875 --> 00:07:54,917 The abuse of pharmaceuticals continues to be 169 00:07:55,041 --> 00:07:56,959 a significant problem in the United States, 170 00:07:57,041 --> 00:07:59,709 and it's based on pharmaceutical diversion 171 00:07:59,792 --> 00:08:01,000 from the supply chain. 172 00:08:01,083 --> 00:08:04,667 He was in charge of the Diversion Control Division 173 00:08:04,750 --> 00:08:06,291 at the DEA. 174 00:08:06,375 --> 00:08:09,333 They make sure that pharmaceuticals 175 00:08:09,417 --> 00:08:12,208 that are controlled substances like opioids 176 00:08:12,291 --> 00:08:14,500 are not diverted to the black market, 177 00:08:14,583 --> 00:08:17,166 that they stay within the supply chain, 178 00:08:17,250 --> 00:08:19,333 from the manufacturer 179 00:08:19,417 --> 00:08:22,166 to the drug distributors, which are the middlemen, 180 00:08:22,250 --> 00:08:26,041 to the pharmacies on the retail level. 181 00:08:26,125 --> 00:08:28,166 Individuals and organizations have created schemes 182 00:08:28,250 --> 00:08:31,208 within the health care delivery system that appear legitimate 183 00:08:31,291 --> 00:08:33,011 but are nothing more than illegal operations 184 00:08:33,083 --> 00:08:34,834 to facilitate the illegal distribution 185 00:08:34,917 --> 00:08:36,208 of pharmaceuticals. 186 00:08:36,291 --> 00:08:37,375 Pharmaceutical diversion... 187 00:08:37,458 --> 00:08:39,208 I've dealt with a lot of whistleblowers 188 00:08:39,291 --> 00:08:41,709 throughout my career, and, you know, 189 00:08:41,792 --> 00:08:43,208 some of them are a little crazy, 190 00:08:43,291 --> 00:08:46,583 some of them are a little paranoid and conspiratorial, 191 00:08:46,667 --> 00:08:50,542 but I really wanted to meet Joe to vet him more. 192 00:08:50,625 --> 00:08:52,208 So I went out 193 00:08:52,291 --> 00:08:55,041 to a little Greek restaurant in Northern Virginia. 194 00:08:55,125 --> 00:08:57,583 I interviewed him for about two hours. 195 00:09:01,125 --> 00:09:03,583 Look, I made a lot of my decisions over the years 196 00:09:03,667 --> 00:09:06,041 at the Athena Pallas. 197 00:09:06,125 --> 00:09:08,000 I could sit there and just think 198 00:09:08,083 --> 00:09:11,875 and not have to worry about DEA and headquarters 199 00:09:11,959 --> 00:09:12,875 and the phone ringing. 200 00:09:12,959 --> 00:09:15,583 So, when I had important decisions to make, 201 00:09:15,667 --> 00:09:17,417 I would go and find a table, 202 00:09:17,500 --> 00:09:19,583 sometimes with somebody else, sometimes by myself, 203 00:09:19,667 --> 00:09:24,458 and sit there and just try and work things out. 204 00:09:24,542 --> 00:09:27,166 Scott Higham starts asking me questions, 205 00:09:27,250 --> 00:09:28,834 and I'm telling him a story 206 00:09:28,917 --> 00:09:32,083 about congressional and industry influence 207 00:09:32,166 --> 00:09:34,083 and, you know, money going in 208 00:09:34,166 --> 00:09:36,583 and the Justice Department folding and all this stuff. 209 00:09:36,667 --> 00:09:39,083 And I don't know if Scott believed me or not, 210 00:09:39,166 --> 00:09:40,208 but, you know, 211 00:09:40,291 --> 00:09:43,250 Scott's from Long Island, and I'm from Long Island. 212 00:09:43,333 --> 00:09:45,417 We kind of talked the same talk, you know? 213 00:09:45,500 --> 00:09:47,792 We come from the same place. 214 00:09:47,875 --> 00:09:49,917 We're on the South Shore of Long Island. 215 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,417 I always wanted to be a police officer 216 00:09:52,500 --> 00:09:55,041 in narcotics, specifically. 217 00:09:55,125 --> 00:09:58,750 I've been around law enforcement my whole life, 218 00:09:58,834 --> 00:10:01,250 as a kid growing up in a law enforcement family, 219 00:10:01,333 --> 00:10:03,125 and so I got cops. 220 00:10:03,208 --> 00:10:04,792 I covered them as a reporter 221 00:10:04,875 --> 00:10:08,625 at "The Baltimore Sun" and in Miami. 222 00:10:08,709 --> 00:10:10,583 I studied pharmacy 223 00:10:10,667 --> 00:10:13,250 at Butler University in Indianapolis. 224 00:10:13,333 --> 00:10:15,458 I figured that being a pharmacist 225 00:10:15,542 --> 00:10:18,959 is the quickest way to learn about the drugs. 226 00:10:19,041 --> 00:10:20,625 Once I got my pharmacy degree, 227 00:10:20,709 --> 00:10:24,041 I started applying to be a law enforcement officer. 228 00:10:24,125 --> 00:10:27,667 And then I was subsequently hired by DEA. 229 00:10:29,208 --> 00:10:30,625 Log on to the Internet, 230 00:10:30,709 --> 00:10:33,000 type in the keyword "medications," 231 00:10:33,083 --> 00:10:34,792 and you'll get hundreds of results, 232 00:10:34,875 --> 00:10:36,500 many of them promising drug delivery... 233 00:10:36,583 --> 00:10:39,417 Right after 2000, 2001, 234 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:43,125 what we started seeing was Internet pharmacies. 235 00:10:43,208 --> 00:10:46,125 A patient would get on the Internet, and he would say, 236 00:10:46,208 --> 00:10:47,834 "Hydrocodone without a prescription." 237 00:10:47,917 --> 00:10:50,834 And you'd get a million hits that would pop up. 238 00:10:50,917 --> 00:10:53,333 And so you'd find one and go to that website, 239 00:10:53,417 --> 00:10:56,208 and it would take you to a patient survey form, 240 00:10:56,291 --> 00:10:59,625 and you would say, "I've got back pain." 241 00:10:59,709 --> 00:11:01,549 The problem is, is no one ever saw the patient. 242 00:11:01,583 --> 00:11:03,792 As long as they had any kind of credit card, 243 00:11:03,875 --> 00:11:04,959 they were fine. 244 00:11:05,041 --> 00:11:07,834 You had a doctor on the East Coast, 245 00:11:07,917 --> 00:11:10,500 the patient or the drug seeker was on the West Coast, 246 00:11:10,583 --> 00:11:13,000 the pharmacy was in the Midwest. 247 00:11:13,083 --> 00:11:16,166 It was just a trafficking organization 248 00:11:16,250 --> 00:11:18,792 that was hiding behind the veil of the Internet. 249 00:11:20,959 --> 00:11:21,959 Without objection, 250 00:11:22,041 --> 00:11:24,208 the bill was read a third time and passed. 251 00:11:27,500 --> 00:11:31,333 As soon as Congress shut down the Internet sites 252 00:11:31,417 --> 00:11:33,875 by passing the Ryan Haight Act, 253 00:11:33,959 --> 00:11:37,834 almost overnight, we started seeing these clinics pop up, 254 00:11:37,917 --> 00:11:41,166 and our people in Florida saying, "Yeah, all of a sudden, 255 00:11:41,250 --> 00:11:43,125 we have all these clinics all over the place." 256 00:11:43,208 --> 00:11:47,500 I'm going down to Florida. 257 00:11:50,667 --> 00:11:52,709 Florida is a very corrupt state. 258 00:11:55,792 --> 00:11:57,083 It's a place 259 00:11:57,166 --> 00:12:00,667 where a lot of people who want to get involved in rackets go 260 00:12:00,750 --> 00:12:01,750 to make fast money. 261 00:12:04,667 --> 00:12:08,250 So the Mob is down there. Drug dealers are down there. 262 00:12:08,333 --> 00:12:09,917 There's a lot of money laundering, 263 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,542 poor regulations. 264 00:12:11,625 --> 00:12:12,851 There's a patchwork of law enforcement. 265 00:12:15,291 --> 00:12:17,834 The regulations over the practice of medicine 266 00:12:17,917 --> 00:12:19,875 and pharmacy in Florida were a lot more lax 267 00:12:19,959 --> 00:12:21,208 than other states. 268 00:12:21,291 --> 00:12:25,792 It provided fertile ground for these clinics to open up. 269 00:12:27,166 --> 00:12:30,959 Right around 2010 in Broward County, 270 00:12:31,041 --> 00:12:34,417 they went from a very small amount of pain clinics 271 00:12:34,500 --> 00:12:37,375 to 142, I think, in a period of a couple years, 272 00:12:37,458 --> 00:12:38,625 two or three years. 273 00:12:38,709 --> 00:12:42,375 Palm Beach County has more pill mills than McDonald's. 274 00:12:42,458 --> 00:12:43,375 The sense was that 275 00:12:43,458 --> 00:12:45,583 we were always just trying to tread water. 276 00:12:45,667 --> 00:12:47,250 We needed more resources. 277 00:12:47,333 --> 00:12:49,291 We needed more field investigations, 278 00:12:49,375 --> 00:12:52,166 and we needed more lawyers. 279 00:12:52,250 --> 00:12:53,333 When I started, 280 00:12:53,417 --> 00:12:56,500 all of our focus had been on these pill mills. 281 00:12:56,583 --> 00:12:58,583 There's one hallway is the doctor's. 282 00:12:58,667 --> 00:12:59,792 And you go in, 283 00:12:59,875 --> 00:13:02,750 and they often literally had a laminated menu, 284 00:13:02,834 --> 00:13:05,667 and they would say, "It's a cash-only business. 285 00:13:05,750 --> 00:13:08,500 You give me the cash for what it is you're looking for." 286 00:13:08,583 --> 00:13:10,625 And then you take that prescription, 287 00:13:10,709 --> 00:13:12,017 you go down to the other end of the hallway, 288 00:13:12,041 --> 00:13:13,041 and it's a dispensary. 289 00:13:13,083 --> 00:13:14,750 And it's all owned by the same person, 290 00:13:14,834 --> 00:13:16,333 so they're running the doctor's, 291 00:13:16,417 --> 00:13:17,750 and they're running the pharmacy. 292 00:13:17,834 --> 00:13:20,500 They were basically fronts for drug dealers, 293 00:13:20,583 --> 00:13:22,625 for really corrupt doctors 294 00:13:22,709 --> 00:13:25,291 who were selling prescriptions for cash, 295 00:13:25,375 --> 00:13:27,500 trading prescriptions for sex. 296 00:13:27,583 --> 00:13:29,542 They actually basically just give 'em out. 297 00:13:38,875 --> 00:13:40,166 People would hop in their car, 298 00:13:40,250 --> 00:13:42,500 they'd get onto Interstate 75. 299 00:13:42,583 --> 00:13:45,834 It's a highway that runs up the spine of America 300 00:13:45,917 --> 00:13:48,875 from Florida up through Appalachia 301 00:13:48,959 --> 00:13:50,542 all the way through Ohio. 302 00:13:51,750 --> 00:13:55,125 It was a very busy, very lucrative pathway 303 00:13:55,208 --> 00:13:57,125 for narcotics in America. 304 00:13:57,208 --> 00:14:00,041 It became known as the Oxy Highway. 305 00:14:01,250 --> 00:14:02,500 I'm Doug Smith with Fox 13. 306 00:14:02,583 --> 00:14:03,768 Can I talk with you about the clinic, 307 00:14:03,792 --> 00:14:05,500 what's going on inside the clinic? 308 00:14:08,792 --> 00:14:09,875 When I pass by here, 309 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,917 the frickin' line is around the corner. 310 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,643 Patients would be lined up in the morning, 311 00:14:13,667 --> 00:14:16,041 waiting to get into these pill mills 312 00:14:16,125 --> 00:14:18,917 so they could get a cursory examination, 313 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,750 if any examination. 314 00:14:20,834 --> 00:14:23,500 We were in there less than ten minutes with a doctor, 315 00:14:23,583 --> 00:14:25,417 walked out with a prescription for Vicodin. 316 00:14:25,500 --> 00:14:26,417 Mm-hmm. 317 00:14:26,500 --> 00:14:28,041 Is that the way it works inside? 318 00:14:28,125 --> 00:14:30,375 If you have proper, uh, 319 00:14:30,458 --> 00:14:32,101 documentation and everything, we take care of you. 320 00:14:32,125 --> 00:14:36,375 - We had no medical records. - We had no X-rays. 321 00:14:36,458 --> 00:14:38,542 Yeah. Who would that doctor be? 322 00:14:38,625 --> 00:14:40,083 I'm not quite sure. 323 00:14:40,166 --> 00:14:41,976 But if you give me a call, I'll be checking into it. 324 00:14:45,667 --> 00:14:48,375 So a bad doctor who's running a clinic 325 00:14:48,458 --> 00:14:52,208 writes a script not for a legitimate medical purpose. 326 00:14:52,291 --> 00:14:55,583 Okay, you can't stop that guy from writing that prescription, 327 00:14:55,667 --> 00:14:56,959 but a pharmacist could, 328 00:14:57,041 --> 00:14:59,083 because if a pharmacist gets that prescription 329 00:14:59,166 --> 00:15:01,083 and it shows red flags, 330 00:15:01,166 --> 00:15:02,875 that pharmacist has a requirement 331 00:15:02,959 --> 00:15:04,417 to resolve those red flags 332 00:15:04,500 --> 00:15:07,250 before he dispenses the medication. 333 00:15:07,333 --> 00:15:09,583 Now, what are these red flags? 334 00:15:09,667 --> 00:15:12,417 Patient traveling 200 miles to a pharmacy. 335 00:15:12,500 --> 00:15:15,583 You could be the greatest pharmacist in the galaxy. 336 00:15:15,667 --> 00:15:18,792 No one's driving 200 miles for you to fill their prescription. 337 00:15:18,875 --> 00:15:21,250 There's a reason for that. 338 00:15:21,333 --> 00:15:25,458 We had to take action, and we had to do it very quickly. 339 00:15:25,542 --> 00:15:28,375 We just started moving massive amounts of resources 340 00:15:28,458 --> 00:15:30,625 down into Florida. 341 00:15:30,709 --> 00:15:32,583 They got task force officers. 342 00:15:32,667 --> 00:15:35,500 They got every diversion investigator in the state, 343 00:15:35,583 --> 00:15:40,291 and they ran undercover operations all over the place. 344 00:15:40,375 --> 00:15:44,000 - There was one case. - It was a female undercover. 345 00:15:44,083 --> 00:15:45,959 Doctor said, "So how you feeling today?" 346 00:15:46,041 --> 00:15:48,125 "Oh, I'm fine." 347 00:15:48,208 --> 00:15:50,017 "So what are you here for? You here for your Oxycodone?" 348 00:15:50,041 --> 00:15:50,959 "Yes. 349 00:15:51,041 --> 00:15:53,834 Could I have some alprazolam, too?" 350 00:15:53,917 --> 00:15:56,417 And he says yes, and he wrote the prescription. 351 00:15:56,500 --> 00:15:59,291 He goes, "Would you like some methadone also?" 352 00:15:59,375 --> 00:16:00,792 And she goes, "Sure." 353 00:16:00,875 --> 00:16:02,834 That was the extent of the visit. 354 00:16:02,917 --> 00:16:04,959 And you look at that, and you go, 355 00:16:05,041 --> 00:16:08,625 "My God, this is not medi... This is a crack house." 356 00:16:12,041 --> 00:16:12,959 Hi. 357 00:16:13,041 --> 00:16:14,226 First of all, turn that off, man. 358 00:16:14,250 --> 00:16:15,559 I don't want to be recorded, okay? 359 00:16:15,583 --> 00:16:17,226 - Let's talk about that. - Are you a doctor? 360 00:16:17,250 --> 00:16:18,393 - Excuse me? - Are you a doctor? 361 00:16:18,417 --> 00:16:20,166 - Don't... - It don't matter who I am. 362 00:16:20,250 --> 00:16:22,476 In a minute, I'm gonna snatch this camera from this, dude. 363 00:16:22,500 --> 00:16:24,667 - You don't even know, man. - Okay, sir. 364 00:16:24,750 --> 00:16:26,500 Follow 'em wherever they're going. 365 00:16:31,417 --> 00:16:33,667 There was one store in particular 366 00:16:33,750 --> 00:16:38,208 that was known by drug users as the go-to CVS. 367 00:16:38,291 --> 00:16:40,500 A DEA investigator said to the pharmacist, 368 00:16:40,583 --> 00:16:41,834 "What's going on here? 369 00:16:41,917 --> 00:16:43,625 "Don't you see that all these people 370 00:16:43,709 --> 00:16:46,834 "are coming with out-of-state licenses and out-of-state tags 371 00:16:46,917 --> 00:16:50,000 "and they're lining up at your door at 8:00 in the morning? 372 00:16:50,083 --> 00:16:51,959 Don't you think that's suspicious?" 373 00:16:52,041 --> 00:16:55,458 And this pharmacist told the DEA, "Well, you know, look. 374 00:16:55,542 --> 00:16:58,500 At 2:00, we cut off our sales." 375 00:16:58,583 --> 00:17:00,000 And the investigator said, 376 00:17:00,083 --> 00:17:01,875 "Why do you cut off your sales at 2:00?" 377 00:17:01,959 --> 00:17:04,667 And she said, "Well, we want to save medication 378 00:17:04,750 --> 00:17:07,333 for our real pain patients." 379 00:17:07,417 --> 00:17:10,375 - Open the door! - On the ground, on the ground! 380 00:17:10,458 --> 00:17:11,643 - Go, go, go! - Get on the ground! 381 00:17:11,667 --> 00:17:14,917 Narrator: In 2011, there was a crackdown by the DEA. 382 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,542 Operation Pill Nation 383 00:17:16,625 --> 00:17:19,375 involved more than 500 law enforcement officers, 384 00:17:19,458 --> 00:17:21,875 resulting in seizures of 70 vehicles, 385 00:17:21,959 --> 00:17:26,166 $19 million in cash, and 105 arrests. 386 00:17:26,250 --> 00:17:27,976 Doctor, do you feel like you were contributing 387 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,542 to addicts' addictions? 388 00:17:30,625 --> 00:17:32,291 Was it worth it? 389 00:17:32,375 --> 00:17:34,917 Narrator: But the real problem wasn't on the street. 390 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,208 It was in the executive suites of pharmaceutical companies, 391 00:17:38,291 --> 00:17:40,583 which had become addicted to the profits 392 00:17:40,667 --> 00:17:42,917 opioids could deliver. 393 00:17:47,041 --> 00:17:49,083 Please help me welcome John Kapoor. 394 00:17:55,709 --> 00:17:57,125 Narrator: John Kapoor 395 00:17:57,208 --> 00:17:58,351 was a veteran pharmaceutical investor 396 00:17:58,375 --> 00:18:01,166 who saw a business opportunity in pain relief. 397 00:18:01,250 --> 00:18:04,083 He started a company called Insys 398 00:18:04,166 --> 00:18:06,583 to market a drug called Subsys. 399 00:18:06,667 --> 00:18:09,625 It was a fast-acting spray device for fentanyl, 400 00:18:09,709 --> 00:18:13,709 a synthetic opioid 100 times stronger than morphine. 401 00:18:13,792 --> 00:18:16,125 I know there are all kinds of definitions 402 00:18:16,208 --> 00:18:18,291 for entrepreneurs. 403 00:18:18,375 --> 00:18:22,125 The one that I think we all recognize most 404 00:18:22,208 --> 00:18:24,959 is that entrepreneurs are risk takers. 405 00:18:28,709 --> 00:18:31,166 narrator: The FDA limited the use of Subsys 406 00:18:31,250 --> 00:18:32,458 to a very narrow market... 407 00:18:32,542 --> 00:18:35,959 Cancer patients suffering so-called breakthrough pain. 408 00:18:36,041 --> 00:18:38,333 To expand the market, 409 00:18:38,417 --> 00:18:41,625 Kapoor was determined to find a way around the FDA's rules. 410 00:18:41,709 --> 00:18:46,291 You, as an entrepreneur, have to have a dream. 411 00:18:46,375 --> 00:18:50,125 And then you work with passion 412 00:18:50,208 --> 00:18:53,417 to make that dream come true. 413 00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:55,792 Narrator: That passion to make a dream come true 414 00:18:55,875 --> 00:18:59,667 is what would lead Kapoor and Insys into the world of crime. 415 00:19:09,750 --> 00:19:11,208 Every U.S. Attorney's Office 416 00:19:11,291 --> 00:19:12,768 in every district in the United States 417 00:19:12,792 --> 00:19:15,750 has someone who's supposed to specialize in health care. 418 00:19:15,834 --> 00:19:18,500 Boston has always taken a lead role in that. 419 00:19:18,583 --> 00:19:20,500 They've taken on some very high-profile 420 00:19:20,583 --> 00:19:22,917 criminal investigators involving Pfizer 421 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,333 and GSK and several others. 422 00:19:25,417 --> 00:19:28,667 And because our office has a reputation 423 00:19:28,750 --> 00:19:31,458 for being successful with these types of cases, 424 00:19:31,542 --> 00:19:35,166 we get a lot of whistleblower lawsuits filed in Boston. 425 00:19:37,417 --> 00:19:39,041 And so, in 2013, 426 00:19:39,125 --> 00:19:42,166 I got a whistleblower complaint sent to me. 427 00:19:42,250 --> 00:19:45,250 It laid out some of the things that were happening 428 00:19:45,333 --> 00:19:46,750 at Insys Therapeutics. 429 00:19:49,458 --> 00:19:52,875 Subsys was launched in March of 2012, 430 00:19:52,959 --> 00:19:55,083 and it goes into this very tight market. 431 00:19:55,166 --> 00:19:59,583 And for the next three months, from March to early June 2012, 432 00:19:59,667 --> 00:20:01,041 Kapoor is devastated, 433 00:20:01,125 --> 00:20:03,709 and he calls it the worst effing launch 434 00:20:03,792 --> 00:20:06,583 in the history of the pharmaceutical industry, right? 435 00:20:06,667 --> 00:20:08,542 So he starts firing people. 436 00:20:08,625 --> 00:20:10,542 Fires the VP of sales, 437 00:20:10,625 --> 00:20:15,000 and he's trying to find a way to be profitable. 438 00:20:15,083 --> 00:20:17,834 Narrator: Kapoor hatched a plan to exploit a loophole. 439 00:20:17,917 --> 00:20:21,083 While the FDA limited the drug to patients with cancer pain, 440 00:20:21,166 --> 00:20:23,709 doctors were allowed to use their own judgment 441 00:20:23,792 --> 00:20:26,250 about whether to expand the market, 442 00:20:26,333 --> 00:20:27,959 so Kapoor leaned on his sales reps 443 00:20:28,041 --> 00:20:31,458 to court doctors to write more scripts for Subsys 444 00:20:31,542 --> 00:20:33,750 and to increase the doses. 445 00:20:33,834 --> 00:20:35,417 Through emails and phone recordings, 446 00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:37,709 prosecutors discovered a sales campaign 447 00:20:37,792 --> 00:20:40,834 to lead doctors into raising the demand for fentanyl 448 00:20:40,917 --> 00:20:45,041 by expanding the very definition of pain. 449 00:21:22,917 --> 00:21:25,959 I assign two criminal prosecutors, 450 00:21:26,041 --> 00:21:28,625 and they began working on the case in late 2013... 451 00:21:28,709 --> 00:21:32,000 Fred Wyshak, who is sort of a legend in Boston. 452 00:21:32,083 --> 00:21:35,959 He prosecuted Whitey Bulger. He's prosecuted the Mob. 453 00:21:36,041 --> 00:21:40,542 In all these types of cases, you need insiders. 454 00:21:40,625 --> 00:21:42,083 It's very difficult 455 00:21:42,166 --> 00:21:44,834 to penetrate a criminal organization 456 00:21:44,917 --> 00:21:47,792 to the top of that organization 457 00:21:47,875 --> 00:21:50,083 without insiders. 458 00:21:50,166 --> 00:21:51,792 Alec Burlakoff. 459 00:21:51,875 --> 00:21:54,083 You must've identified him early on 460 00:21:54,166 --> 00:21:55,917 - in your investigation. - Absolutely. 461 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,291 Alec Burlakoff was a primary target of the investigation. 462 00:22:02,750 --> 00:22:06,083 And so what in your mind makes a good salesman? 463 00:22:06,166 --> 00:22:09,166 One word... passion. 464 00:22:09,250 --> 00:22:11,542 It's not deceit. It's not lies. 465 00:22:11,625 --> 00:22:14,041 It's not not having a conscience. 466 00:22:14,125 --> 00:22:15,500 It's passion. 467 00:22:18,917 --> 00:22:19,834 When I was hired, 468 00:22:19,917 --> 00:22:21,267 there was a meeting that took place 469 00:22:21,291 --> 00:22:22,351 where all the managers were there, 470 00:22:22,375 --> 00:22:24,458 and, basically, everybody was yelled and ridiculed 471 00:22:24,542 --> 00:22:26,709 and screamed at for the lack of sales. 472 00:22:26,792 --> 00:22:29,208 They were abysmal, basically. They're nonexistent. 473 00:22:29,291 --> 00:22:31,750 It's all on the rep 474 00:22:31,834 --> 00:22:36,166 to ensure that this drug starts getting prescribed. 475 00:22:36,250 --> 00:22:38,417 And none of it's doable... 476 00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:40,667 Unless you break the rules. 477 00:22:40,750 --> 00:22:44,583 But to tell the truth... This job was made for me. 478 00:22:44,667 --> 00:22:47,333 I mean, I was raised in a family 479 00:22:47,417 --> 00:22:49,750 where you don't cry 480 00:22:49,834 --> 00:22:53,208 you don't lose, you don't take off work, 481 00:22:53,291 --> 00:22:55,917 you don't miss school, you are not sick, you know, 482 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,250 and you get the job done. 483 00:23:07,250 --> 00:23:10,917 I grew up in a lower-class, middle-class neighborhood 484 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,875 way out on Long Island... 485 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,291 A small town called King's Park. 486 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,583 There was a lot going on in my house. 487 00:23:20,667 --> 00:23:22,125 Wasn't a place to have friends over. 488 00:23:25,875 --> 00:23:27,559 Never knew what kind of yelling and screaming 489 00:23:27,583 --> 00:23:28,959 and fighting was gonna take place. 490 00:23:33,875 --> 00:23:35,291 I got a bachelor's in psychology, 491 00:23:35,375 --> 00:23:36,583 a master's in social work. 492 00:23:40,458 --> 00:23:41,643 I said, "You know, I'm gonna go work 493 00:23:41,667 --> 00:23:44,250 for the best school that I can find." 494 00:23:44,333 --> 00:23:46,917 And I did a search, and a private school came up 495 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,417 in Boca Raton. 496 00:23:50,542 --> 00:23:51,959 I did phys ed for two years. 497 00:23:52,041 --> 00:23:54,917 After that, I was a guidance counselor. 498 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,166 It was a very small salary, 499 00:23:56,250 --> 00:23:57,810 but I was hanging out with kids all day, 500 00:23:57,834 --> 00:23:58,834 doing what I love. 501 00:24:03,083 --> 00:24:05,792 The problem with working at this school 502 00:24:05,875 --> 00:24:09,709 was that I put myself around very wealthy people... 503 00:24:09,792 --> 00:24:12,959 All affluent, I mean, beyond affluent. 504 00:24:13,041 --> 00:24:15,458 And I went out to the parking lot one day, 505 00:24:15,542 --> 00:24:16,542 and I went to the parent 506 00:24:16,583 --> 00:24:18,125 who was driving a Bentley convertible, 507 00:24:18,208 --> 00:24:19,959 and he was smoking a cigar, and I said, 508 00:24:20,041 --> 00:24:22,001 "Sir, you know, we have a no-smoking policy here." 509 00:24:22,041 --> 00:24:23,583 "Can you kindly put that out?" 510 00:24:23,667 --> 00:24:24,667 And he took a puff. 511 00:24:24,750 --> 00:24:26,670 He blew it right in my face, in my eyes and said, 512 00:24:26,709 --> 00:24:28,709 "Petty rules from petty people." 513 00:24:30,083 --> 00:24:31,500 It was literally from that moment 514 00:24:31,583 --> 00:24:33,959 that I knew I had to go make some money. 515 00:24:35,875 --> 00:24:37,667 I leveraged some of the relationships 516 00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:39,834 that I had at the school... A lot of doctors there. 517 00:24:39,917 --> 00:24:41,434 One of the doctors basically said to me, 518 00:24:41,458 --> 00:24:44,125 "Well, I'm a big prescriber of a product 519 00:24:44,208 --> 00:24:47,000 that Eli Lilly promotes," at the time, 520 00:24:47,083 --> 00:24:48,542 "And I can get you an interview." 521 00:24:48,625 --> 00:24:51,667 And I jumped all over it, finished the school year, 522 00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:54,166 and was on my way into pharmaceuticals. 523 00:24:54,250 --> 00:24:56,125 Narrator: Working for Eli Lilly, 524 00:24:56,208 --> 00:24:59,458 Burlakoff's first pharmaceutical was Prozac. 525 00:24:59,542 --> 00:25:01,083 He was named rookie of the year 526 00:25:01,166 --> 00:25:03,458 for his big batting average with doctors, 527 00:25:03,542 --> 00:25:06,125 but he was soon fired for handing out free samples 528 00:25:06,208 --> 00:25:10,834 to hundreds of people, including one 16-year-old. 529 00:25:10,917 --> 00:25:13,333 He hooked up next with Johnson & Johnson 530 00:25:13,417 --> 00:25:15,208 and then applied for a sales job 531 00:25:15,291 --> 00:25:18,542 for a company named Cephalon. 532 00:25:18,625 --> 00:25:19,768 And I never heard of Cephalon. 533 00:25:19,792 --> 00:25:21,875 It's not like Johnson & Johnson or Eli Lilly. 534 00:25:21,959 --> 00:25:25,125 So that was my first taste of small biotech. 535 00:25:25,208 --> 00:25:26,709 And what does "small biotech" mean? 536 00:25:26,792 --> 00:25:27,709 It means a lot. 537 00:25:27,792 --> 00:25:31,417 The payouts, the bonus plan is "uncapped." 538 00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:34,667 It's a very attractive word to a salesperson... "uncapped." 539 00:25:34,750 --> 00:25:37,750 - There's no ceiling... - The more you sell... 540 00:25:37,834 --> 00:25:41,667 The more you sell, the more you get compensated, period. 541 00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:43,542 By the time I walked out of the interview, 542 00:25:43,625 --> 00:25:46,500 I called my wife and said, "I'm going to a new company." 543 00:25:49,125 --> 00:25:51,041 narrator: The product was Actiq. 544 00:25:51,125 --> 00:25:53,542 It was a lollipop made of fentanyl, 545 00:25:53,625 --> 00:25:57,917 whose potency carried an enormous risk of overdose. 546 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,417 For end-of-life cancer pain, Actiq made sense, 547 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:03,875 but that was a very small market. 548 00:26:03,959 --> 00:26:05,041 To pump up sales, 549 00:26:05,125 --> 00:26:07,750 Burlakoff had to convince doctors to prescribe it 550 00:26:07,834 --> 00:26:11,375 for much more, from back aches to ankle sprains. 551 00:26:11,458 --> 00:26:12,709 How to do that? 552 00:26:12,792 --> 00:26:16,709 Through bribes packaged as speaker's programs. 553 00:26:16,792 --> 00:26:18,750 If you have pain that lasts all day 554 00:26:18,834 --> 00:26:21,917 narrator: Burlakoff would pay doctors to promote the drug. 555 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,667 In exchange, doctors would prescribe more and more. 556 00:26:24,750 --> 00:26:27,792 It was a program that appealed to the founder of Insys, 557 00:26:27,875 --> 00:26:29,458 John Kapoor. 558 00:26:29,542 --> 00:26:30,917 At the interview, 559 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,750 once I got into the nuances of the program 560 00:26:33,834 --> 00:26:35,208 and what it took to be successful, 561 00:26:35,291 --> 00:26:37,417 he just banged his fist on the table and said, 562 00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:40,542 "That's our next VP of sales," and walked out the door. 563 00:26:47,083 --> 00:26:49,625 I don't think there's any way to understand 564 00:26:49,709 --> 00:26:51,625 what happened at a company like Insys 565 00:26:51,709 --> 00:26:54,959 without referring to Purdue Pharma. 566 00:26:55,041 --> 00:26:57,041 They were the pioneers. 567 00:26:57,125 --> 00:26:59,458 They went out and had a mission 568 00:26:59,542 --> 00:27:02,667 to change the mind of the medical establishment 569 00:27:02,750 --> 00:27:05,458 about how dangerous these drugs were 570 00:27:05,542 --> 00:27:09,500 and to persuade physicians not to worry too much 571 00:27:09,583 --> 00:27:13,000 about the addictiveness of strong opioids. 572 00:27:13,083 --> 00:27:16,500 Insys used Purdue's playbook. 573 00:27:16,583 --> 00:27:20,417 You have a very strong, powerful product, 574 00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:23,667 and you incentivize your sales reps 575 00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:24,834 with the understanding 576 00:27:24,917 --> 00:27:27,500 that they're going to be compensated based on volume, 577 00:27:27,583 --> 00:27:31,375 and they go out with an incentive to sell. 578 00:27:31,458 --> 00:27:33,834 For many of you out there, 579 00:27:33,917 --> 00:27:35,291 you have not had the opportunity 580 00:27:35,375 --> 00:27:37,500 to experience the excitement 581 00:27:37,583 --> 00:27:39,834 or, more importantly, the achievement 582 00:27:39,917 --> 00:27:41,375 of being on this stage. 583 00:27:46,041 --> 00:27:48,834 So John Kapoor hires Burlakoff, 584 00:27:48,917 --> 00:27:51,037 and he makes him the head of the Southeast district... 585 00:27:51,083 --> 00:27:53,667 Florida, Alabama. 586 00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:54,667 With Kapoor's permission, 587 00:27:54,750 --> 00:27:56,208 he hires his buddy from college, 588 00:27:56,291 --> 00:27:58,834 this guy called Joe Rowan, as a sales rep. 589 00:27:58,917 --> 00:28:00,792 Rowan has a very close relationship 590 00:28:00,875 --> 00:28:04,417 with a doctor in Mobile, Alabama, named Xiulu Ruan, 591 00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:08,208 and Ruan's known to be running a pill mill operation. 592 00:28:08,291 --> 00:28:12,375 So they start to bribe Ruan in August of 2012. 593 00:28:13,625 --> 00:28:16,041 And immediately there's a massive turnaround 594 00:28:16,125 --> 00:28:18,709 in the success of the drug in the Southeast. 595 00:28:20,166 --> 00:28:21,709 A pharmaceutical company has a right 596 00:28:21,792 --> 00:28:23,072 to try to educate people, right? 597 00:28:23,125 --> 00:28:24,041 So they do what's called 598 00:28:24,125 --> 00:28:25,667 non-research payments to doctors. 599 00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:27,709 They give you money, and in exchange, 600 00:28:27,792 --> 00:28:31,250 you go and you talk about the drug to colleagues. 601 00:28:31,333 --> 00:28:33,583 By itself, it's not illegal. 602 00:28:33,667 --> 00:28:35,375 What happens with Insys is that 603 00:28:35,458 --> 00:28:39,458 they start paying exorbitantly huge number 604 00:28:39,542 --> 00:28:40,709 of speaker programs, 605 00:28:40,792 --> 00:28:42,417 and they use the speaker program 606 00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:43,917 basically as a way to cover 607 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,250 for the bribes that they're paying. 608 00:28:46,333 --> 00:28:47,542 Kapoor, ultimately, 609 00:28:47,625 --> 00:28:50,417 he invested between $3 million and $4 million a year 610 00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:52,750 on the speaker program at its height. 611 00:28:52,834 --> 00:28:56,458 They were bribing people at that level nationwide. 612 00:28:56,542 --> 00:28:57,917 So it was basically, 613 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,083 "Here's some money. Write some scripts." 614 00:29:00,166 --> 00:29:01,583 Yes. 615 00:29:01,667 --> 00:29:04,041 It was actually... Well, you say "basically." 616 00:29:04,125 --> 00:29:05,750 That word makes me nervous, 617 00:29:05,834 --> 00:29:08,792 because if I said "basically" to Dr. John Kapoor, 618 00:29:08,875 --> 00:29:10,917 he'd say, "Basically, you're fired." 619 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,250 There is no "basically" here. 620 00:29:13,333 --> 00:29:17,083 It's very clear, concise. It's very direct. 621 00:29:17,166 --> 00:29:20,000 As an entrepreneur, 622 00:29:20,083 --> 00:29:23,417 don't get arrogant, even if you're successful. 623 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:26,417 You should believe in yourself, 624 00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:30,166 and one important thing is stay humble. 625 00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:36,333 - We are so professional! - Oh, are you videotaping this? 626 00:29:36,417 --> 00:29:38,125 Turn that shit off! 627 00:29:38,208 --> 00:29:39,667 What, what... 628 00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:43,000 The best region at Insys! 629 00:30:04,875 --> 00:30:07,458 The key to increasing sales of Subsys 630 00:30:07,542 --> 00:30:10,834 was to build a relationship with a doctor. 631 00:30:10,917 --> 00:30:11,997 When you go into the office 632 00:30:12,041 --> 00:30:13,267 and they meet you for the first time, 633 00:30:13,291 --> 00:30:14,667 it's a test. 634 00:30:14,750 --> 00:30:16,226 They're gonna look you in the eye, and they're gonna say, 635 00:30:16,250 --> 00:30:19,208 "Hey, Alec, how you doing? So you have Subsys? 636 00:30:19,291 --> 00:30:20,875 What's that indicated for?" 637 00:30:20,959 --> 00:30:22,125 And you have some reps say, 638 00:30:22,208 --> 00:30:24,393 "Oh, it's indicated for... breakthrough pain," 639 00:30:24,417 --> 00:30:26,059 or they say, "It's indicated for breakthrough pain 640 00:30:26,083 --> 00:30:27,000 in cancer patients." 641 00:30:27,083 --> 00:30:28,333 Something like that. 642 00:30:28,417 --> 00:30:30,875 My play is I look 'em dead, directly in the eye, 643 00:30:30,959 --> 00:30:32,500 and I laugh, and I go, "Doc", 644 00:30:32,583 --> 00:30:34,792 "you know exactly what this drug's indicated for. 645 00:30:34,875 --> 00:30:36,059 "It's indicated for breakthrough pain 646 00:30:36,083 --> 00:30:39,333 "in cancer patients 18 or older that are opioid tolerant 647 00:30:39,417 --> 00:30:42,625 "on 24-hour, around-the-clock medications. 648 00:30:42,709 --> 00:30:44,000 "Why do you ask me that question? 649 00:30:44,083 --> 00:30:45,101 "You know I can't talk to you 650 00:30:45,125 --> 00:30:46,959 "about anything outside of that indication. 651 00:30:47,041 --> 00:30:48,709 "However, you also know you are the doctor 652 00:30:48,792 --> 00:30:51,500 "and you can do whatever you damn well please. 653 00:30:51,583 --> 00:30:54,166 So is this game over yet? Are we done?" 654 00:30:54,250 --> 00:30:55,643 And they go, "Hey, how can I help you? 655 00:30:55,667 --> 00:30:57,267 What can I sign for? What's your sample?" 656 00:30:57,291 --> 00:30:59,375 Blah, blah, blah. Or, "You have 30 seconds." 657 00:30:59,458 --> 00:31:01,667 I love when they say I have 30 seconds. 658 00:31:01,750 --> 00:31:03,166 "I have 30 seconds what? 659 00:31:03,250 --> 00:31:05,041 "To sell you a schedule II opioid? 660 00:31:05,125 --> 00:31:07,250 "'Cause I'll probably do it, and the sad part is 661 00:31:07,333 --> 00:31:09,750 "you'll probably have no idea how to manage the side effects, 662 00:31:09,834 --> 00:31:12,667 "the drug interactions, the precautions, the warnings, 663 00:31:12,750 --> 00:31:13,870 "the respiratory depression, 664 00:31:13,917 --> 00:31:15,893 "and everything else that's gonna come along with it. 665 00:31:15,917 --> 00:31:18,041 "So let's both do each other a favor. 666 00:31:18,125 --> 00:31:20,041 "You name the restaurant. You name the time. 667 00:31:20,125 --> 00:31:21,500 "You name the date. 668 00:31:21,583 --> 00:31:24,667 "I don't care where it is. I don't care what it costs. 669 00:31:24,750 --> 00:31:26,875 "I will be there. 670 00:31:26,959 --> 00:31:30,041 "You stay as long as you want or as short as you want, 671 00:31:30,125 --> 00:31:33,250 "but I can't sell this drug to you in 30 seconds. 672 00:31:33,333 --> 00:31:34,583 It's irresponsible." 673 00:31:34,667 --> 00:31:36,810 Now, back then, did I really care about being responsible? 674 00:31:36,834 --> 00:31:38,625 No. 675 00:31:38,709 --> 00:31:40,583 So, look, Alec Burlakoff's a lot to take. 676 00:31:40,667 --> 00:31:43,709 I mean, he is a car salesman on steroids. 677 00:31:43,792 --> 00:31:46,709 But there's an honesty to what he's saying that is... 678 00:31:46,792 --> 00:31:49,250 A frankness to what he's saying that's unique. 679 00:31:49,333 --> 00:31:52,125 Cut me off if I'm rambling, 'cause I know I am, 680 00:31:52,208 --> 00:31:54,125 but there's four categories. 681 00:31:54,208 --> 00:31:56,917 There's blue, yellow, green, red. 682 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,875 - Blue is analytical. - Hmm! 683 00:31:58,959 --> 00:32:01,625 That means if you don't have a scientific, double-blind, 684 00:32:01,709 --> 00:32:03,917 placebo-controlled study with a lot of patients 685 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,125 that proves your data is right, you're not getting a sale. 686 00:32:08,208 --> 00:32:09,625 What does that mean to me? 687 00:32:09,709 --> 00:32:11,792 It means I don't call on analytical doctors 688 00:32:11,875 --> 00:32:13,709 'cause I don't have any studies like that. 689 00:32:13,792 --> 00:32:16,792 Then you have your yellow. That's your amiable doctor. 690 00:32:16,875 --> 00:32:18,226 They want to be friends with everybody. 691 00:32:18,250 --> 00:32:19,166 They want everybody to love them... 692 00:32:19,250 --> 00:32:20,250 You're the best! 693 00:32:20,291 --> 00:32:21,518 Which means if you're selling a drug 694 00:32:21,542 --> 00:32:23,000 and there's five other competitors, 695 00:32:23,083 --> 00:32:24,834 they just go on a rotation. 696 00:32:24,917 --> 00:32:27,000 "This one gets Subsys. This one gets Lazanda. 697 00:32:27,083 --> 00:32:29,291 This one gets Abstral." And then we go back around. 698 00:32:29,375 --> 00:32:30,458 Guess what. 699 00:32:30,542 --> 00:32:33,083 They're out because they're just sharing the wealth. 700 00:32:33,166 --> 00:32:34,917 So now you got your green, 701 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,625 which is kind of like your earthy type of doctor. 702 00:32:37,709 --> 00:32:39,125 Renewable. 703 00:32:39,208 --> 00:32:40,810 Like, God forbid you do a lunch and not recycle. 704 00:32:40,834 --> 00:32:42,114 You'll never go back there again. 705 00:32:42,166 --> 00:32:43,291 But then you got your reds. 706 00:32:43,375 --> 00:32:45,125 Reds are your businessmen. 707 00:32:45,208 --> 00:32:47,959 They own their practice. They run their practice. 708 00:32:48,041 --> 00:32:49,792 - They manage their books. 709 00:32:49,875 --> 00:32:52,000 They see a crazy number of patients. 710 00:32:52,083 --> 00:32:54,083 It's all about efficiency. 711 00:32:54,166 --> 00:32:55,959 In fact, when you as the rep walk in there, 712 00:32:56,041 --> 00:32:58,250 they run to you with a pen to sign, 713 00:32:58,333 --> 00:32:59,933 and they're running away at the same time 714 00:32:59,959 --> 00:33:02,083 because they don't have time to talk with you 715 00:33:02,166 --> 00:33:04,500 because they're treating patients, making money. 716 00:33:04,583 --> 00:33:06,183 And if he's a red and he's a businessman, 717 00:33:06,250 --> 00:33:08,667 I got to show him the WIFM. 718 00:33:08,750 --> 00:33:10,542 What is the WIFM? 719 00:33:13,041 --> 00:33:15,375 That's all they're thinking... 720 00:33:15,458 --> 00:33:16,542 "What's in it for me?" 721 00:33:16,625 --> 00:33:19,250 "Buddy, will you stop talking about the freakin' drug? 722 00:33:19,333 --> 00:33:21,213 "Will you stop talking about saving the patient? 723 00:33:21,250 --> 00:33:23,000 "Will you stop talking about the science, 724 00:33:23,083 --> 00:33:24,893 "and will you please tell me what's in it for me? 725 00:33:24,917 --> 00:33:27,333 Because you're wasting my time." 726 00:33:27,417 --> 00:33:28,709 Those are the reds. 727 00:33:28,792 --> 00:33:30,500 Those are the doctors you want to find, 728 00:33:30,583 --> 00:33:32,267 and those are the doctors you want to move in, 729 00:33:32,291 --> 00:33:34,709 live, eat, and breathe with. 730 00:33:34,792 --> 00:33:36,667 It was a seven-day, 24-hour-a-day job. 731 00:33:36,750 --> 00:33:37,976 They call me at 3:00 in the morning, 732 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,083 they want to go out, I go. 733 00:33:39,166 --> 00:33:41,792 They want me to go to temple on Saturday, I go. 734 00:33:41,875 --> 00:33:44,875 They want me to go to church on Sunday, I go. 735 00:33:44,959 --> 00:33:46,792 You go through the step-by-step process. 736 00:33:46,875 --> 00:33:48,959 Okay, did I take him to dinner? Check. 737 00:33:49,041 --> 00:33:51,041 Did I take him to a hockey game? Check. 738 00:33:51,125 --> 00:33:53,375 Did I take him to a nightclub? Check. 739 00:34:12,792 --> 00:34:14,250 I mean, this is uncapped bonuses. 740 00:34:14,333 --> 00:34:15,458 This is your opportunity. 741 00:34:15,542 --> 00:34:17,267 You wanted to put the money in the doctor's pocket. 742 00:34:17,291 --> 00:34:18,709 Didn't care about anything else. 743 00:34:18,792 --> 00:34:20,750 Just wanted that bonus. 744 00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:28,291 They start the bribe scheme in the summer of 2012. 745 00:34:28,375 --> 00:34:30,333 By the beginning of 2013, 746 00:34:30,417 --> 00:34:32,959 as the company is launching its first IPO, 747 00:34:33,041 --> 00:34:36,750 they can now go and say that the drug is profitable. 748 00:34:36,834 --> 00:34:38,041 And so right away, 749 00:34:38,125 --> 00:34:39,810 investors look at it and said, "Something's going on here." 750 00:34:39,834 --> 00:34:40,917 And they started investing. 751 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,625 By the end of the year, 752 00:34:42,709 --> 00:34:45,083 Insys was the most popular pharmaceutical drug 753 00:34:45,166 --> 00:34:46,166 to invest in. 754 00:34:46,250 --> 00:34:48,917 It was the most popular IPO on Wall Street. 755 00:34:50,834 --> 00:34:54,375 The CEO, Mike Babich, was being interviewed on MSNBC. 756 00:34:54,458 --> 00:34:57,583 By the end of 2014, the market cap was in the billions. 757 00:34:57,667 --> 00:35:00,125 2015, Subsys was one 758 00:35:00,208 --> 00:35:02,625 of the top five most profitable opioid products 759 00:35:02,709 --> 00:35:04,834 in the United States. 760 00:35:04,917 --> 00:35:08,458 That product that we launched three years ago today, 761 00:35:08,542 --> 00:35:11,458 this year will do close to $300 million. 762 00:35:11,542 --> 00:35:13,333 You can make a lot of money 763 00:35:13,417 --> 00:35:16,917 getting doctors to prescribe a medication 764 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,166 to people who don't need it, 765 00:35:19,250 --> 00:35:22,709 who they're not just gonna lose a couple thousand dollars. 766 00:35:22,792 --> 00:35:25,250 They're gonna lose their life. 767 00:35:52,792 --> 00:35:54,125 So one whole piece of the case 768 00:35:54,208 --> 00:35:56,000 is we're gonna bribe doctors 769 00:35:56,083 --> 00:35:58,834 to write as many scripts as we possibly can, 770 00:35:58,917 --> 00:36:01,333 but then they very quickly realized 771 00:36:01,417 --> 00:36:04,208 written scripts without payment doesn't help anybody. 772 00:36:04,291 --> 00:36:05,959 - The drug's expensive. - Very expensive. 773 00:36:06,041 --> 00:36:08,542 So there's different dosages of the medication. 774 00:36:08,625 --> 00:36:11,166 For the highest dosage, 1,600 micrograms, 775 00:36:11,250 --> 00:36:13,125 at times, I believe it was going 776 00:36:13,208 --> 00:36:15,166 for more than $15,000 a month. 777 00:36:15,250 --> 00:36:16,834 And insurance companies, 778 00:36:16,917 --> 00:36:18,834 Medicare in particular, have rules. 779 00:36:18,917 --> 00:36:21,792 And in this case, Subsys, you know, 780 00:36:21,875 --> 00:36:24,291 has to be prescribed for the treatment 781 00:36:24,375 --> 00:36:28,917 of breakthrough cancer pain in cancer patients. 782 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,768 If you're an insurer and you're trying to figure out 783 00:36:30,792 --> 00:36:32,875 whether or not you're willing to pay for a drug, 784 00:36:32,959 --> 00:36:34,709 one of the things you're gonna look at is, 785 00:36:34,792 --> 00:36:36,935 are they prescribing it for what the label says it's for? 786 00:36:36,959 --> 00:36:37,875 Right? 787 00:36:37,959 --> 00:36:38,976 "The label says it's for cancer patients. 788 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,500 "This patient doesn't have cancer. 789 00:36:40,583 --> 00:36:42,000 Why are we paying for this?" Right? 790 00:36:42,083 --> 00:36:44,875 And so they started misleading them. 791 00:36:44,959 --> 00:36:47,250 What they set up is this Insys reimbursement center, 792 00:36:47,333 --> 00:36:49,500 the IRC, and what they would do 793 00:36:49,583 --> 00:36:52,000 is they would work with doctor's offices 794 00:36:52,083 --> 00:36:54,750 to get prescriptions for Subsys approved. 795 00:36:54,834 --> 00:36:56,101 People would go, they would clock in, 796 00:36:56,125 --> 00:36:58,875 and they would put the headset on and get assigned files, 797 00:36:58,959 --> 00:37:00,333 and they would just call and lie. 798 00:37:03,834 --> 00:37:05,333 The insurance company would say, 799 00:37:05,417 --> 00:37:07,375 "Are you calling from Dr. Smith's office?" 800 00:37:11,166 --> 00:37:13,083 "Oh, yes. I'm right here in sunny Florida." 801 00:37:13,166 --> 00:37:15,959 But really, they blocked their outgoing caller ID. 802 00:37:16,041 --> 00:37:18,625 They were in Arizona in a cubicle the whole time. 803 00:37:23,625 --> 00:37:25,250 So a patient goes to see a doctor, 804 00:37:25,333 --> 00:37:27,417 the doctor prescribes Subsys, 805 00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:31,417 somehow the office at the IRC needs to know enough 806 00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:33,417 about the patient to be able to call 807 00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:35,208 on the patient's behalf and lie. 808 00:37:35,291 --> 00:37:37,500 So the sales reps had to convince the doctors 809 00:37:37,583 --> 00:37:39,750 to agree to give them access 810 00:37:39,834 --> 00:37:41,500 to patients' personal information 811 00:37:41,583 --> 00:37:43,959 and various pieces of information 812 00:37:44,041 --> 00:37:45,667 about their diagnoses. 813 00:37:49,083 --> 00:37:51,625 Let's say a doctor just wrote Subsys for back pain 814 00:37:51,709 --> 00:37:53,000 or for neck pain. 815 00:37:53,083 --> 00:37:55,166 What Insys did was say... 816 00:37:58,375 --> 00:38:00,458 One of the tactics that they figured out worked 817 00:38:00,542 --> 00:38:02,041 was talk really fast... 818 00:38:07,250 --> 00:38:08,792 Give them a lot of information at once, 819 00:38:08,875 --> 00:38:10,709 sound like you know what you're talking about. 820 00:38:16,667 --> 00:38:18,500 And they would spin these stories 821 00:38:18,583 --> 00:38:20,583 that just weren't true. 822 00:39:14,333 --> 00:39:15,250 They had a list. 823 00:39:15,333 --> 00:39:16,250 If you're calling Humana, 824 00:39:16,333 --> 00:39:18,000 these are the lies you need to say. 825 00:39:18,083 --> 00:39:20,083 If you're calling Blue Cross Blue Shield, 826 00:39:20,166 --> 00:39:21,709 say this. 827 00:39:21,792 --> 00:39:24,792 And then insurance companies, they used the algorithm. 828 00:39:24,875 --> 00:39:26,875 So, if the answer triggered the right way, 829 00:39:26,959 --> 00:39:28,875 it would lead them down a decision tree 830 00:39:28,959 --> 00:39:30,375 to approve or not approve. 831 00:39:30,458 --> 00:39:32,625 And Insys knew this and took advantage of this. 832 00:39:35,333 --> 00:39:36,959 Yes, um... 833 00:39:45,458 --> 00:39:47,250 So you'll hear these callers anticipate 834 00:39:47,333 --> 00:39:50,250 not only the next question, but the next three questions. 835 00:39:50,333 --> 00:39:52,000 So if Insys knows the algorithm, 836 00:39:52,083 --> 00:39:53,309 they've, like, broken the code. 837 00:39:53,333 --> 00:39:55,267 - They've broken the code. - They cracked the code. 838 00:39:55,291 --> 00:39:57,250 And they could call all day, every day 839 00:39:57,333 --> 00:39:58,583 and get these approved. 840 00:39:58,667 --> 00:40:02,208 Okay, the medication's been approved until one year... 841 00:40:02,291 --> 00:40:03,491 It's approved. It's approved. 842 00:40:03,542 --> 00:40:07,208 The request is approved through March 13. 843 00:40:07,291 --> 00:40:10,458 So you can go ahead and call it in to the pharmacy. 844 00:40:10,542 --> 00:40:12,417 This was something driven from John Kapoor, 845 00:40:12,500 --> 00:40:16,250 driven at the top... what the success rate was on the IRC, 846 00:40:16,333 --> 00:40:17,667 how they were doing. 847 00:40:19,667 --> 00:40:22,125 The lies, the deceit. 848 00:40:22,208 --> 00:40:24,875 There's nothing they wouldn't say to get the drug approved. 849 00:40:24,959 --> 00:40:27,083 And Dr. Kapoor's philosophy was very simple. 850 00:40:27,166 --> 00:40:30,083 "The doctor prescribes it. He puts pen to pad. 851 00:40:30,166 --> 00:40:32,250 "That patient will get the drug. 852 00:40:32,333 --> 00:40:33,750 Do you understand me?" 853 00:40:33,834 --> 00:40:34,917 John Kapoor insisted 854 00:40:35,041 --> 00:40:37,834 that their approvals be something like 90% to 100%, 855 00:40:37,917 --> 00:40:41,458 which according to the testimony was way beyond 856 00:40:41,542 --> 00:40:43,667 any kind of industry goal or standard. 857 00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:45,291 I've been through this before. 858 00:40:45,375 --> 00:40:48,125 I'm looking at this, and I'm going, "Okay. 859 00:40:48,208 --> 00:40:49,959 Clearly, we're breaking the law." 860 00:40:50,041 --> 00:40:52,059 That medication's intended for the use and management 861 00:40:52,083 --> 00:40:54,125 of breakthrough pain in cancer patients. 862 00:40:54,208 --> 00:40:56,959 Dr. Volking is treating the breakthrough pain 863 00:40:57,041 --> 00:40:59,417 as 338.29. 864 00:41:25,458 --> 00:41:28,500 The opioid crisis today is just that. 865 00:41:28,583 --> 00:41:31,000 It's a crisis. We all have to work together. 866 00:41:31,083 --> 00:41:35,125 Because our prescriptions by 2012 were over 250 million. 867 00:41:35,208 --> 00:41:37,667 250 million in the United States. 868 00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:39,375 Everybody who's registered 869 00:41:39,458 --> 00:41:41,959 to handle a controlled substance 870 00:41:42,041 --> 00:41:44,375 has a requirement under the law 871 00:41:44,458 --> 00:41:47,583 to maintain effective controls against diversion. 872 00:41:47,667 --> 00:41:49,184 Manufacturers... "Well, we just make the drugs. 873 00:41:49,208 --> 00:41:50,333 We don't prescribe 'em." 874 00:41:50,417 --> 00:41:52,500 Distributors... "Well, we're just logistic companies. 875 00:41:52,583 --> 00:41:54,625 We don't prescribe or dispense." 876 00:41:54,709 --> 00:41:56,559 Pharmacies... "We just take valid prescriptions" 877 00:41:56,583 --> 00:41:57,667 "written by doctors 878 00:41:57,750 --> 00:41:59,542 and dispense the medications as ordered." 879 00:41:59,625 --> 00:42:02,875 Doctors... "We're just treating our patients." 880 00:42:02,959 --> 00:42:04,291 And then it goes to the patients. 881 00:42:04,375 --> 00:42:06,583 By the way, those are the guys that are dying. 882 00:42:08,458 --> 00:42:11,041 And everybody's pointing the fingers at each other, 883 00:42:11,125 --> 00:42:13,583 but all downstream towards the doctors. 884 00:42:13,667 --> 00:42:14,709 I don't want you to think 885 00:42:14,792 --> 00:42:16,542 that I have a problem with doctors. 886 00:42:16,625 --> 00:42:19,250 In fact, most of the doctors, the vast majority of doctors 887 00:42:19,333 --> 00:42:21,709 are doing exactly what they're supposed to do. 888 00:42:21,792 --> 00:42:23,208 But there are bad doctors 889 00:42:23,291 --> 00:42:25,083 that were doing really bad things 890 00:42:25,166 --> 00:42:26,709 with controlled substances. 891 00:42:26,792 --> 00:42:29,041 I can't stop them. 892 00:42:29,125 --> 00:42:30,375 But the pharmacists can, 893 00:42:30,458 --> 00:42:32,518 because the pharmacists don't have to fill the prescriptions. 894 00:42:32,542 --> 00:42:34,417 But if the pharmacist continues 895 00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:35,709 to fill the prescriptions, 896 00:42:35,792 --> 00:42:38,875 the Controlled Substances Act supplies a check 897 00:42:38,959 --> 00:42:40,792 at the distributor-to-pharmacy level. 898 00:42:43,667 --> 00:42:45,184 When the manufacturer makes the pill, 899 00:42:45,208 --> 00:42:47,309 they're not allowed to sell it directly to a pharmacy, 900 00:42:47,333 --> 00:42:49,917 so they sell it to one of these three companies 901 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,208 almost exclusively... 902 00:42:51,291 --> 00:42:55,417 McKesson, Cardinal Health, and AmerisourceBergen. 903 00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:57,250 And those three companies own 904 00:42:57,333 --> 00:43:01,250 something along the lines of 90% of the opioid market. 905 00:43:01,333 --> 00:43:03,542 When I first started doing this investigation, 906 00:43:03,625 --> 00:43:05,709 I had never heard of these companies. 907 00:43:05,792 --> 00:43:08,208 I had never heard of McKesson. 908 00:43:08,291 --> 00:43:09,375 They are not only 909 00:43:09,458 --> 00:43:11,378 the largest drug distribution company in America, 910 00:43:11,417 --> 00:43:15,041 they are the fifth-largest company in the United States. 911 00:43:15,125 --> 00:43:18,083 These companies keep very low profiles. 912 00:43:18,166 --> 00:43:21,542 They don't want to be in the press, 913 00:43:21,625 --> 00:43:22,705 and they do a very good job 914 00:43:22,750 --> 00:43:25,125 of just staying off the radar screen. 915 00:43:27,125 --> 00:43:29,792 - Hello? Can I help you? - How you doing? 916 00:43:29,875 --> 00:43:32,583 - What are you shooting? - The trucks coming in and out. 917 00:43:32,667 --> 00:43:35,291 - What are you shooting for? - It's for a documentary. 918 00:43:35,375 --> 00:43:37,583 - Nope. Cannot do that. - Nope, not here. 919 00:43:39,875 --> 00:43:42,125 The distributors, the big three... 920 00:43:42,208 --> 00:43:43,959 When an order comes in, 921 00:43:44,041 --> 00:43:46,458 they have an obligation to have a system in place 922 00:43:46,542 --> 00:43:49,959 that identifies whether the order is suspicious. 923 00:43:50,041 --> 00:43:51,208 If the order is suspicious, 924 00:43:51,291 --> 00:43:53,625 they need to stop the shipment. 925 00:43:53,709 --> 00:43:55,625 So, if you see a pharmacy 926 00:43:55,709 --> 00:43:59,959 that's been ordering 5,000 tablets for the last two years 927 00:44:00,041 --> 00:44:04,166 and now they're ordering 40,000, then 60,000, 928 00:44:04,250 --> 00:44:08,000 then 100,000, that's suspicious. 929 00:44:08,083 --> 00:44:12,667 You... there's no way you could say it's not suspicious. 930 00:44:12,750 --> 00:44:14,834 But what we saw was 931 00:44:14,917 --> 00:44:19,166 distributors not filing suspicious orders 932 00:44:19,250 --> 00:44:21,667 and then continuing to ship. 933 00:44:26,583 --> 00:44:28,709 narrator: When distributors recklessly filled hundreds 934 00:44:28,792 --> 00:44:30,792 of suspicious orders, 935 00:44:30,875 --> 00:44:33,166 the DEA had the ability to shut them down 936 00:44:33,250 --> 00:44:35,333 with a powerful weapon... 937 00:44:35,417 --> 00:44:38,166 An ISO, or Immediate Suspension Order. 938 00:44:38,250 --> 00:44:40,375 Nobody used that weapon more effectively 939 00:44:40,458 --> 00:44:43,500 than a DEA lawyer named Linden Barber. 940 00:44:43,583 --> 00:44:46,333 DEA's regulation calls on distributors 941 00:44:46,417 --> 00:44:49,375 to detect and report suspicious orders to DEA. 942 00:44:49,458 --> 00:44:51,500 Those are, according to the regulations, 943 00:44:51,583 --> 00:44:54,041 orders of unusual size, unusual frequency, 944 00:44:54,125 --> 00:44:55,000 or those that 945 00:44:55,083 --> 00:44:56,101 narrator: One of the top lawyers 946 00:44:56,125 --> 00:44:58,166 at the DEA's Drug Diversion Division, 947 00:44:58,250 --> 00:45:01,041 Linden Barber worked closely with Joe Rannazzisi 948 00:45:01,125 --> 00:45:03,458 in preventing companies from profiting 949 00:45:03,542 --> 00:45:05,750 from opioid abuse. 950 00:45:05,834 --> 00:45:09,375 He was doing a lot of work with us, 951 00:45:09,458 --> 00:45:12,250 trying to get the industry in compliance. 952 00:45:12,333 --> 00:45:14,208 Linden would be the first to get angry 953 00:45:14,291 --> 00:45:16,375 about how many people died. 954 00:45:16,458 --> 00:45:19,041 He had that drive, that push to file all these cases, 955 00:45:19,125 --> 00:45:20,375 to cowboy it. 956 00:45:20,458 --> 00:45:22,667 Narrator: Late in 2007, 957 00:45:22,750 --> 00:45:24,834 Barber, Rannazzisi, and the DEA 958 00:45:24,917 --> 00:45:27,291 set their sights on Cardinal Health. 959 00:45:27,375 --> 00:45:29,458 They shut down a key distribution center 960 00:45:29,542 --> 00:45:30,959 with an ISO 961 00:45:31,041 --> 00:45:34,083 for failing to report hundreds of blatantly suspicious orders 962 00:45:34,166 --> 00:45:36,417 of narcotics. 963 00:45:36,500 --> 00:45:39,291 A $130 billion company, 964 00:45:39,375 --> 00:45:43,875 Cardinal settled the case by paying a $34 million fine. 965 00:45:43,959 --> 00:45:45,375 In the final deal, 966 00:45:45,458 --> 00:45:47,542 Cardinal did not admit wrongdoing, 967 00:45:47,625 --> 00:45:52,250 and damaging evidence of public harm was suppressed. 968 00:45:52,333 --> 00:45:54,709 I didn't want to settle these cases. 969 00:45:54,792 --> 00:45:57,542 I wanted to go in front of a court. 970 00:45:57,625 --> 00:46:00,041 I wanted to present all the evidence. 971 00:46:00,125 --> 00:46:01,917 I wanted to be transparent. 972 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,917 A $34 million fine does nothing. 973 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,709 That's a traffic ticket. 974 00:46:05,792 --> 00:46:08,291 $34 million for Cardinal is nothing. 975 00:46:08,375 --> 00:46:09,458 It didn't take very long 976 00:46:09,542 --> 00:46:12,458 before they basically were turning around 977 00:46:12,542 --> 00:46:14,291 and doing the same thing. 978 00:46:14,375 --> 00:46:17,750 Cardinal was distributing millions of pills 979 00:46:17,834 --> 00:46:22,041 to two CVS pharmacies in Sanford, Florida, 980 00:46:22,125 --> 00:46:23,917 right on the edge of a highway. 981 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,291 So people would cruise in, get their drugs, 982 00:46:26,375 --> 00:46:28,959 and be out in, like, no time at all. 983 00:46:29,041 --> 00:46:31,333 Narrator: As part of the CVS case, 984 00:46:31,417 --> 00:46:35,625 the DEA started investigating Cardinal once more. 985 00:46:35,709 --> 00:46:38,959 Angered by a second Rannazzisi-led investigation, 986 00:46:39,041 --> 00:46:41,875 Cardinal started an influence campaign, 987 00:46:41,959 --> 00:46:44,792 using former Department of Justice officials 988 00:46:44,875 --> 00:46:46,834 to lobby their old colleagues. 989 00:46:48,583 --> 00:46:51,166 You know, the revolving door and the swamp 990 00:46:51,250 --> 00:46:53,792 is alive and well in Washington. 991 00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:57,834 Jamie Gorelick was the Deputy Attorney General 992 00:46:57,917 --> 00:46:59,226 during the Clinton administration, 993 00:46:59,250 --> 00:47:01,208 so she was the second-highest-ranking 994 00:47:01,291 --> 00:47:03,834 law enforcement official in the United States. 995 00:47:03,917 --> 00:47:05,166 After she left, 996 00:47:05,250 --> 00:47:08,166 she joined one of the biggest law firms in town here. 997 00:47:08,250 --> 00:47:11,667 She is a exceedingly powerful woman, 998 00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:15,166 and Cardinal Health had retained her. 999 00:47:15,250 --> 00:47:18,792 She reached out to the then-Deputy Attorney General, 1000 00:47:18,875 --> 00:47:21,792 James Cole, and asked him 1001 00:47:21,875 --> 00:47:25,166 if they could take a look at this case... 1002 00:47:25,250 --> 00:47:28,000 You know, "Did they really have to come after them that hard?" 1003 00:47:28,083 --> 00:47:29,625 "They're trying to do the right thing. 1004 00:47:29,709 --> 00:47:32,375 Is there a way that we can talk about this?" 1005 00:47:32,458 --> 00:47:34,709 And that got back to Joe, 1006 00:47:34,792 --> 00:47:37,875 that Jamie Gorelick had been involved. 1007 00:47:37,959 --> 00:47:39,709 Look, as much as I understand 1008 00:47:39,792 --> 00:47:44,417 that Jamie Gorelick is a fine attorney, 1009 00:47:44,500 --> 00:47:46,309 I don't think she knows the Controlled Substances Act 1010 00:47:46,333 --> 00:47:47,583 better than me. 1011 00:47:49,458 --> 00:47:51,417 narrator: In a series of calls and letters, 1012 00:47:51,500 --> 00:47:55,208 Gorelick pressed Cole to prevent the DEA from acting. 1013 00:47:55,291 --> 00:47:57,333 "Immediate suspension," wrote Gorelick, 1014 00:47:57,417 --> 00:48:00,000 "is a drastic and punitive enforcement tool. 1015 00:48:00,083 --> 00:48:01,583 "We would appreciate the opportunity 1016 00:48:01,667 --> 00:48:03,625 "to discuss this urgent matter with you 1017 00:48:03,709 --> 00:48:06,542 prior to any action by DEA." 1018 00:48:06,625 --> 00:48:07,709 Cole responded 1019 00:48:07,792 --> 00:48:11,750 by demanding an immediate briefing by Rannazzisi. 1020 00:48:11,834 --> 00:48:13,542 I said, "Before we start", 1021 00:48:13,625 --> 00:48:15,166 "no one's ever wanted a briefing 1022 00:48:15,250 --> 00:48:17,583 "on why we're doing certain things. 1023 00:48:17,667 --> 00:48:20,417 What makes this case so special?" 1024 00:48:20,500 --> 00:48:23,583 And the response was, "'Cause I'm the Deputy Attorney General 1025 00:48:23,667 --> 00:48:26,792 of the United States, and I want to know." 1026 00:48:26,875 --> 00:48:30,083 And that really didn't answer the question. 1027 00:48:30,166 --> 00:48:32,417 And it just got very adversarial. 1028 00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:35,917 But once we presented the facts, they couldn't... 1029 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,875 I mean, the facts were the facts. 1030 00:48:37,959 --> 00:48:40,333 These companies were an imminent danger 1031 00:48:40,417 --> 00:48:41,875 to public health. 1032 00:48:43,834 --> 00:48:47,083 Around that time, we're reaching, like, 1033 00:48:47,166 --> 00:48:51,208 170,000 people who had died from drug overdoses. 1034 00:48:51,291 --> 00:48:54,250 That is just a phenomenal number. 1035 00:48:54,333 --> 00:48:55,792 Doing CPR! 1036 00:48:55,875 --> 00:48:57,184 During this time period, I'm out on the road. 1037 00:48:57,208 --> 00:48:59,250 I'm talking to parents who've lost kids. 1038 00:48:59,333 --> 00:49:02,000 I'm talking to wives who've lost husbands. 1039 00:49:02,083 --> 00:49:05,458 I'm talking to people who've lost loved ones, 1040 00:49:05,542 --> 00:49:07,125 and they're all saying the same thing... 1041 00:49:07,208 --> 00:49:08,959 Why is this happening? 1042 00:49:09,041 --> 00:49:11,959 And my response is, "We're doing everything we can." 1043 00:49:12,041 --> 00:49:15,291 And then to sit there and go through an inquisition 1044 00:49:15,375 --> 00:49:17,500 about why I'm doing a certain thing, 1045 00:49:17,583 --> 00:49:19,750 to a company... To at least one company 1046 00:49:19,834 --> 00:49:23,125 that was already charged with the same violation 1047 00:49:23,208 --> 00:49:27,000 several years ago, it kind of pissed me off. 1048 00:49:27,083 --> 00:49:28,963 And that's when I came back, and I call my team. 1049 00:49:29,041 --> 00:49:32,291 I said, "You know, this is war. We're at war now." 1050 00:49:32,375 --> 00:49:35,625 "You go out and serve those ISOs, 1051 00:49:35,709 --> 00:49:40,125 and we'll just see where it goes." 1052 00:49:40,208 --> 00:49:41,959 I was proud of the work they did. 1053 00:49:42,041 --> 00:49:44,709 Those guys busted their butts for, you know, months, 1054 00:49:44,792 --> 00:49:46,208 getting these cases together. 1055 00:49:48,333 --> 00:49:50,291 We were absolutely amped up. 1056 00:49:50,375 --> 00:49:51,709 If you want to do some real good, 1057 00:49:51,792 --> 00:49:53,333 if that's really what you want to do, 1058 00:49:53,417 --> 00:49:55,834 if you want to go out and you want to fight bad guys, 1059 00:49:55,917 --> 00:49:57,625 you're doing this kind of thing, 1060 00:49:57,709 --> 00:49:59,375 and you're thinking, "This is great." 1061 00:49:59,458 --> 00:50:02,125 So, in February of 2012, 1062 00:50:02,208 --> 00:50:05,333 we issued the Immediate Suspension Orders. 1063 00:50:05,417 --> 00:50:08,792 Narrator: A federal judge ruled in favor of the DEA. 1064 00:50:08,875 --> 00:50:10,166 The ISO went into effect, 1065 00:50:10,250 --> 00:50:12,709 shutting down the flow of drugs. 1066 00:50:12,792 --> 00:50:15,333 Ultimately, Cardinal agreed to stop shipping opioids 1067 00:50:15,417 --> 00:50:17,500 from one warehouse for two years 1068 00:50:17,583 --> 00:50:20,750 and paid a $44 million fine, 1069 00:50:20,834 --> 00:50:23,750 but the tactics of the DEA enraged Cardinal 1070 00:50:23,834 --> 00:50:26,125 and other big pharma companies. 1071 00:50:27,208 --> 00:50:29,041 When the companies didn't like 1072 00:50:29,125 --> 00:50:31,208 that they were being held accountable, 1073 00:50:31,291 --> 00:50:33,709 they said, "Enough is enough." 1074 00:50:33,792 --> 00:50:35,166 And instead of complying, 1075 00:50:35,250 --> 00:50:37,375 they just decided to change the statute. 1076 00:50:37,458 --> 00:50:39,375 Thank you, Madam Speaker. 1077 00:50:39,458 --> 00:50:43,417 I rise in strong support of HR 471, 1078 00:50:43,500 --> 00:50:46,083 the Ensuring Patient Access 1079 00:50:46,166 --> 00:50:48,458 and Effective Drug Enforcement Act, 1080 00:50:48,542 --> 00:50:52,083 bringing greater clarity and transparency 1081 00:50:52,166 --> 00:50:55,166 to the requirements for safe and secure distribution 1082 00:50:55,250 --> 00:50:56,750 of these medicines. 1083 00:50:56,834 --> 00:50:59,542 Pharmaceutical companies have infinite gobs of money 1084 00:50:59,625 --> 00:51:02,750 to throw at politicians to change the laws, 1085 00:51:02,834 --> 00:51:04,959 and that is disgusting. 1086 00:51:05,041 --> 00:51:06,291 That's horrible. 1087 00:51:06,375 --> 00:51:07,851 That's not the way the law should work. 1088 00:51:07,875 --> 00:51:10,625 They should be changing their behaviors, not the rules. 1089 00:51:37,875 --> 00:51:39,083 Tell me about Rachel's. 1090 00:51:39,166 --> 00:51:40,542 What kind of place was Rachel's? 1091 00:51:40,625 --> 00:51:43,291 You know, high-end dance club 1092 00:51:43,375 --> 00:51:47,125 with five-star steak restaurant. 1093 00:51:47,208 --> 00:51:50,333 One day Alec comes in to the club. 1094 00:51:50,417 --> 00:51:54,834 It was slow, and I just saw this guy sitting by the stage. 1095 00:51:54,917 --> 00:51:56,250 And I do what I normally do... 1096 00:51:56,333 --> 00:51:59,166 Is I sit down and I talk to people. 1097 00:51:59,250 --> 00:52:00,166 You know? 1098 00:52:00,250 --> 00:52:01,917 That's how I kind of feel them out, 1099 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,267 see what kind of people they are, 1100 00:52:03,291 --> 00:52:06,333 and if they appreciate more of a conversation, you know... 1101 00:52:06,417 --> 00:52:08,792 Then I'm good, right? 1102 00:52:08,875 --> 00:52:11,917 Um, but, uh, we talked a bit, 1103 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,250 and he told me that he was VP of sales 1104 00:52:15,333 --> 00:52:18,250 in pharmaceuticals. 1105 00:52:18,333 --> 00:52:21,125 He didn't take any dances till later on that night, 1106 00:52:21,208 --> 00:52:24,667 but he had offered to do a private dance with me. 1107 00:52:24,750 --> 00:52:26,709 And then he left, and I didn't... 1108 00:52:26,792 --> 00:52:28,500 I really didn't think he would come back, 1109 00:52:28,583 --> 00:52:33,208 but he came back and said, "Yep, let's do this. 1110 00:52:33,291 --> 00:52:35,000 We'll do the private dance." 1111 00:52:35,083 --> 00:52:37,709 And that's how it got started. 1112 00:52:38,750 --> 00:52:41,500 I get a call from him a couple weeks later, 1113 00:52:41,583 --> 00:52:43,000 and he tells me that he thinks 1114 00:52:43,083 --> 00:52:46,959 he has a regional sales manager's position for me. 1115 00:52:47,041 --> 00:52:49,834 And it seemed like it was the perfect job, honestly. 1116 00:52:49,917 --> 00:52:53,667 Just do what I do now, and it wasn't anything different. 1117 00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:55,291 The first time I interviewed her, 1118 00:52:55,375 --> 00:52:56,875 I told her, "This is the industry." 1119 00:52:56,959 --> 00:53:01,333 And she says, "This is what I do every day." 1120 00:53:01,417 --> 00:53:04,542 Dancing is how you get a clientele base 1121 00:53:04,625 --> 00:53:08,208 that would come in and see just you. 1122 00:53:08,291 --> 00:53:11,375 I can shoot the shit with men, you know? 1123 00:53:11,458 --> 00:53:14,875 You have to be able to read people by their body language, 1124 00:53:14,959 --> 00:53:16,375 what they talk about. 1125 00:53:16,458 --> 00:53:17,875 You have to be able to listen 1126 00:53:17,959 --> 00:53:20,875 so that you can find out how you relate. 1127 00:53:20,959 --> 00:53:23,041 As far as psychology, quite frankly, 1128 00:53:23,125 --> 00:53:26,375 her prior employment is all about psychology. 1129 00:53:26,458 --> 00:53:28,709 I mean, you got to meet a customer, right? 1130 00:53:28,792 --> 00:53:32,000 Are you gonna spend an hour, two hours, three hours 1131 00:53:32,083 --> 00:53:35,250 wasting your time when he's not gonna give you a dollar? 1132 00:53:35,333 --> 00:53:37,500 Or are you going to know in five minutes 1133 00:53:37,583 --> 00:53:38,583 that this isn't your guy, 1134 00:53:38,625 --> 00:53:40,583 get up and start circling the place 1135 00:53:40,667 --> 00:53:43,834 and find your next opportunity? 1136 00:53:43,917 --> 00:53:45,250 What's a whale doctor? 1137 00:53:45,333 --> 00:53:47,333 We used that in strip clubs, too. 1138 00:53:48,458 --> 00:53:49,959 So what's a whale in a strip club? 1139 00:53:50,041 --> 00:53:51,583 A whale is the guy with the money 1140 00:53:51,667 --> 00:53:54,750 and that likes to spend it. 1141 00:53:54,834 --> 00:53:57,625 When I worked at Insys, the whales were the guys 1142 00:53:57,709 --> 00:53:59,583 who were prescribing this medication, 1143 00:53:59,667 --> 00:54:01,417 this class of medication for a long time. 1144 00:54:01,500 --> 00:54:03,375 Those were the whales. 1145 00:54:03,458 --> 00:54:05,375 They know what they're doing, 1146 00:54:05,458 --> 00:54:07,875 and if you can get that business, 1147 00:54:07,959 --> 00:54:08,875 then you're good. 1148 00:54:10,667 --> 00:54:14,750 Base salary for the regional sales manager was $80,000 1149 00:54:14,834 --> 00:54:17,834 before bonuses. 1150 00:54:17,917 --> 00:54:19,417 They called it Mid-Atlantic, 1151 00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:23,917 but it was Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, 1152 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,625 Illinois, Ohio, Maryland, and Washington, DC. 1153 00:54:30,542 --> 00:54:34,125 My sales team, we started off as the worst in the nation, 1154 00:54:34,208 --> 00:54:37,625 and we ended up the top region in the nation 1155 00:54:37,709 --> 00:54:40,208 shortly after I started. 1156 00:54:40,291 --> 00:54:43,250 She's probably the best salesperson I've ever met. 1157 00:54:43,333 --> 00:54:45,417 And the best salespeople I hired 1158 00:54:45,500 --> 00:54:47,458 were the people who understood, 1159 00:54:47,542 --> 00:54:49,417 what is the most important thing to you? 1160 00:54:49,500 --> 00:54:51,959 Being number one in the country on that list 1161 00:54:52,041 --> 00:54:53,750 or making the most money? 1162 00:54:53,834 --> 00:54:56,750 I typically go with the person who says being number one 1163 00:54:56,834 --> 00:54:58,792 'cause I know they're sick 1164 00:54:58,875 --> 00:54:59,959 like me. 1165 00:55:00,041 --> 00:55:01,625 Got to be number one. 1166 00:55:03,375 --> 00:55:07,208 When I met Alec, I don't know, he seemed crazy, 1167 00:55:07,291 --> 00:55:09,834 but I thought he was brilliant. 1168 00:55:09,917 --> 00:55:11,333 After starting with the company 1169 00:55:11,417 --> 00:55:13,166 and communicating with him daily 1170 00:55:13,250 --> 00:55:15,875 and listening to him on the conference calls and... 1171 00:55:15,959 --> 00:55:20,333 That's when I really got to know him. 1172 00:55:20,417 --> 00:55:23,500 We became, you know, good friends 1173 00:55:23,583 --> 00:55:25,959 and developed a relationship, 1174 00:55:26,041 --> 00:55:28,667 even though I knew that he was married. 1175 00:55:30,583 --> 00:55:34,000 Which, I mean, we all say love can be blind, right? 1176 00:55:36,041 --> 00:55:40,000 You know, I saw this man who worked really hard, 1177 00:55:40,083 --> 00:55:42,667 did things for people, gave people opportunities, 1178 00:55:42,750 --> 00:55:43,834 like myself. 1179 00:55:52,417 --> 00:55:55,125 I was born in Hawaii, Honolulu. 1180 00:55:55,208 --> 00:55:59,250 Born into a very abusive household. 1181 00:55:59,333 --> 00:56:01,375 My parents got divorced 1182 00:56:01,458 --> 00:56:05,417 shortly after my brother was born. 1183 00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:09,834 And then shortly after that, my father actually took us. 1184 00:56:09,917 --> 00:56:12,250 We were on the, you know, run. 1185 00:56:12,333 --> 00:56:15,250 We were milk-carton children for a few years. 1186 00:56:15,333 --> 00:56:18,875 We lived all over the place... 1187 00:56:18,959 --> 00:56:21,709 Boston, San Francisco, 1188 00:56:21,792 --> 00:56:24,834 different parts of California, Chicago, Puerto Rico. 1189 00:56:24,917 --> 00:56:28,583 Sometimes two weeks to two months. 1190 00:56:28,667 --> 00:56:31,041 I never had a childhood. 1191 00:56:31,125 --> 00:56:33,083 I raised my sister and my brother 1192 00:56:33,166 --> 00:56:34,834 at a very young age. 1193 00:56:34,917 --> 00:56:38,291 You know, I'm ironing at five years old and cooking. 1194 00:56:40,125 --> 00:56:42,750 Eventually the law caught up with him. 1195 00:56:42,834 --> 00:56:47,375 They found my mother. We moved to Michigan. 1196 00:56:47,458 --> 00:56:50,917 I ended up getting emancipated when I was 16. 1197 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,583 You have to prove 1198 00:56:52,667 --> 00:56:54,476 that you can take care of yourself financially, 1199 00:56:54,500 --> 00:56:56,583 which I did, working three jobs, 1200 00:56:56,667 --> 00:57:00,375 going to school, a superior honor roll student. 1201 00:57:00,458 --> 00:57:04,250 Finished school, got married, and had a son 1202 00:57:04,333 --> 00:57:08,000 and started going to college. 1203 00:57:08,083 --> 00:57:12,083 And once I turned 18, I started dancing, too. 1204 00:57:12,166 --> 00:57:14,476 When you don't have anything and you don't have any support, 1205 00:57:14,500 --> 00:57:17,208 you've got to grind your way and, you know, 1206 00:57:17,291 --> 00:57:19,171 treat it like a business, and that's what I did. 1207 00:57:19,250 --> 00:57:21,917 You know, I pushed myself through school. 1208 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,417 Initially, it was pre-med and then natural healing. 1209 00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:29,500 And I was board certified for medical massage therapy. 1210 00:57:31,250 --> 00:57:33,458 Everybody used to call me Superwoman... 1211 00:57:33,542 --> 00:57:35,083 Or Supermom. 1212 00:57:35,166 --> 00:57:36,875 And I could do it all. 1213 00:57:41,500 --> 00:57:43,792 In 2012, 1214 00:57:43,875 --> 00:57:46,667 I went down to Florida with the kids 1215 00:57:46,750 --> 00:57:48,959 to try to make some money. 1216 00:57:49,041 --> 00:57:51,959 And it was that summer when I met Alec. 1217 00:57:55,166 --> 00:57:57,583 I listened to him. 1218 00:57:57,667 --> 00:58:01,667 He said that I needed a four-year degree. 1219 00:58:01,750 --> 00:58:04,500 He knew I didn't have a four-year degree. 1220 00:58:04,583 --> 00:58:08,500 And so he helped me out with my résumé. 1221 00:58:08,583 --> 00:58:10,333 Just said that I had to, you know, 1222 00:58:10,417 --> 00:58:14,125 put that I had this bachelor's degree. 1223 00:58:14,208 --> 00:58:16,792 I trusted him. 1224 00:58:16,875 --> 00:58:19,208 Part of what Alec Burlakoff did 1225 00:58:19,291 --> 00:58:23,667 is he pulled in three people who he knew he could trust 1226 00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:26,500 to implement Kapoor's strategy. 1227 00:58:26,583 --> 00:58:27,834 That is not easy to do. 1228 00:58:27,917 --> 00:58:29,333 It's not easy to hire people 1229 00:58:29,417 --> 00:58:31,166 who are gonna manage other people 1230 00:58:31,250 --> 00:58:32,959 to engage in criminal activity. 1231 00:58:33,041 --> 00:58:36,500 - You know, they targeted... - They targeted us, 1232 00:58:36,583 --> 00:58:38,333 people who were... 1233 00:58:38,417 --> 00:58:41,333 I call us the naive dreamers, 1234 00:58:41,417 --> 00:58:43,542 um. 1235 00:58:43,625 --> 00:58:47,375 Where we still believed in the dream and worked really hard. 1236 00:58:47,458 --> 00:58:49,834 Sunrise Lee, you know, there's this sort of narrative 1237 00:58:49,917 --> 00:58:51,041 that wants to portray her 1238 00:58:51,125 --> 00:58:52,875 as this person that worked at a club, 1239 00:58:52,959 --> 00:58:55,041 and that's true, but she was a much more 1240 00:58:55,125 --> 00:58:58,250 sophisticated criminal than that. 1241 00:58:58,333 --> 00:59:00,166 She's so successful, she's promoted. 1242 00:59:00,250 --> 00:59:01,583 She at one point was responsible 1243 00:59:01,667 --> 00:59:03,542 for a third of the country 1244 00:59:03,625 --> 00:59:06,166 in terms of all the sales reps and the sales managers. 1245 00:59:06,250 --> 00:59:08,101 And she has a conversation with the district manager, 1246 00:59:08,125 --> 00:59:09,250 and she said, "Listen", 1247 00:59:09,333 --> 00:59:12,208 "you got to make sure that you stay on top of these guys 1248 00:59:12,291 --> 00:59:13,709 "because they will stop writing 1249 00:59:13,792 --> 00:59:15,601 "unless you're there every day talking to them. 1250 00:59:15,625 --> 00:59:17,083 "You got to hold them accountable 1251 00:59:17,166 --> 00:59:18,500 for what they agreed to do." 1252 00:59:18,583 --> 00:59:20,709 Which, of course, is the definition of a bribe. 1253 00:59:23,166 --> 00:59:26,583 Kapoor wanted doctors to have twice the amount 1254 00:59:26,667 --> 00:59:29,250 of net revenue generated by their prescriptions 1255 00:59:29,333 --> 00:59:33,458 as they were given an honorarium in bribes. 1256 00:59:33,542 --> 00:59:36,625 You got to tell the doctor, "Look, we are not Pfizer. 1257 00:59:36,709 --> 00:59:40,250 "We track every penny. I'm held accountable. 1258 00:59:40,333 --> 00:59:42,959 "If we come to an agreement that you're gonna speak 1259 00:59:43,041 --> 00:59:46,250 "and we're gonna pay you honorarium to speak, 1260 00:59:46,333 --> 00:59:50,250 "you must clearly understand that you will be expected 1261 00:59:50,333 --> 00:59:53,291 "to write double of what we paid you 1262 00:59:53,375 --> 00:59:54,750 "back in prescriptions. 1263 00:59:54,834 --> 00:59:56,083 "And if it's not there, 1264 00:59:56,166 --> 00:59:58,417 "we're gonna reduce your programs quickly, 1265 00:59:58,500 --> 01:00:00,017 "and then we're just gonna basically... 1266 01:00:00,041 --> 01:00:02,000 You're gonna disappear off the map." 1267 01:00:02,083 --> 01:00:03,417 Right? 1268 01:00:03,500 --> 01:00:04,875 The whole thig is disgusting. 1269 01:00:04,959 --> 01:00:07,542 - Kapoor, he had, like, a... - A spreadsheet. 1270 01:00:07,625 --> 01:00:09,125 Excel spreadsheet. 1271 01:00:09,208 --> 01:00:11,125 In pharmaceuticals, it's a "no-no." 1272 01:00:11,208 --> 01:00:13,208 It's a forbidden. You don't do it. 1273 01:00:13,291 --> 01:00:15,000 For obvious reasons, right? 1274 01:00:15,083 --> 01:00:18,166 You start connecting the dots, and things don't look so good. 1275 01:00:18,250 --> 01:00:20,291 It was the smoking gun. 1276 01:00:20,375 --> 01:00:21,975 They could look at a list of prescribers, 1277 01:00:22,041 --> 01:00:23,976 and they could say, "Here's what we've paid this person, 1278 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,291 and here's their scripts." 1279 01:00:25,375 --> 01:00:26,851 And they could do the simple math to see, 1280 01:00:26,875 --> 01:00:28,083 "Are we making money or not?" 1281 01:00:28,166 --> 01:00:30,458 That was a devastating piece of evidence 1282 01:00:30,542 --> 01:00:32,667 because it showed the true intent. 1283 01:00:35,333 --> 01:00:38,709 There was a doctor in Illinois named Paul Madison. 1284 01:00:38,792 --> 01:00:40,083 He was associated with a doctor 1285 01:00:40,166 --> 01:00:41,959 called in the media "Dr. Million Pills." 1286 01:00:42,041 --> 01:00:43,458 He had a practice with him. 1287 01:00:43,542 --> 01:00:45,875 There's one email describing Madison's office 1288 01:00:45,959 --> 01:00:47,709 as a "shady pill mill." 1289 01:00:47,792 --> 01:00:49,166 And what do they do? 1290 01:00:49,250 --> 01:00:52,375 Sunrise Lee, she goes in, and she flirts with him, 1291 01:00:52,458 --> 01:00:55,667 and she is seen giving him a lap dance. 1292 01:00:55,750 --> 01:00:58,834 - Never happened, okay? - It just... it never happened. 1293 01:00:58,917 --> 01:01:01,667 It's not even allowed to happen at a dance club. 1294 01:01:01,750 --> 01:01:03,166 You would get booted out. 1295 01:01:03,250 --> 01:01:05,208 They sign him up as a speaker, 1296 01:01:05,291 --> 01:01:07,125 and they start bribing him. 1297 01:01:07,208 --> 01:01:10,166 And that happened all around the United States. 1298 01:01:10,250 --> 01:01:11,625 And another doctor they worked with 1299 01:01:11,709 --> 01:01:13,333 was Gavin Awerbuch in Michigan, 1300 01:01:13,417 --> 01:01:15,291 who ultimately became the number-one prescriber 1301 01:01:15,375 --> 01:01:17,255 of substances in the United States at one point, 1302 01:01:17,291 --> 01:01:21,667 was paid for three different speaker programs a week. 1303 01:01:21,750 --> 01:01:24,166 A doctor suddenly isn't a doctor anymore at all. 1304 01:01:24,250 --> 01:01:26,125 They're working for Insys Therapeutics. 1305 01:01:26,208 --> 01:01:27,309 They're working for themselves. 1306 01:01:27,333 --> 01:01:28,375 They're working for money, 1307 01:01:28,458 --> 01:01:30,542 and the patient has no knowledge of it. 1308 01:01:30,625 --> 01:01:33,166 It is truly frightening. 1309 01:02:01,625 --> 01:02:03,333 This is a Gallup poll. 1310 01:02:03,417 --> 01:02:05,208 America's ratings of honesty 1311 01:02:05,291 --> 01:02:08,250 and ethical standards in professions. 1312 01:02:08,333 --> 01:02:10,917 Does anybody know what the number-one profession is 1313 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,417 in honesty and integrity? 1314 01:02:12,500 --> 01:02:14,458 Anyone, yell it out. 1315 01:02:14,542 --> 01:02:16,875 - Nursing. - Who said that? 1316 01:02:16,959 --> 01:02:19,709 Who said nursing? You did. 1317 01:02:19,792 --> 01:02:21,083 Think about that. 1318 01:02:21,166 --> 01:02:24,917 Nurses, medical doctors, and pharmacists 1319 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:26,917 are one, two, and three. 1320 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,917 You trust them. Everybody trusts them. 1321 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,041 Why? Because you go there to get better. 1322 01:02:31,125 --> 01:02:33,583 You go there to get better. 1323 01:02:33,667 --> 01:02:35,959 Okay, that's important 1324 01:02:36,041 --> 01:02:40,542 because people trust their medical professionals, 1325 01:02:40,625 --> 01:02:43,417 so they'll do what they're told to do. 1326 01:02:43,500 --> 01:02:46,542 Okay? What's the bottom five? 1327 01:02:48,166 --> 01:02:51,250 - Bingo! 1328 01:02:51,333 --> 01:02:53,375 Members of Congress are last. 1329 01:02:56,250 --> 01:02:58,125 But this... ahead of 'em are stockbrokers, 1330 01:02:58,208 --> 01:03:00,458 advertising practitioners, telemarketers, 1331 01:03:00,542 --> 01:03:02,291 and car salespeople. 1332 01:03:02,375 --> 01:03:04,166 The bottom five. 1333 01:03:08,709 --> 01:03:13,750 More can and must be done to treat this growing epidemic, 1334 01:03:13,834 --> 01:03:17,000 and that is why we have all worked together 1335 01:03:17,083 --> 01:03:22,125 on HR 4709, the Ensuring Patient Access 1336 01:03:22,208 --> 01:03:25,291 and Effective Drug Enforcement Act of 2014. 1337 01:03:25,375 --> 01:03:28,125 What is The Ensuring Patient Access 1338 01:03:28,208 --> 01:03:30,291 and Effective Drug Enforcement Act? 1339 01:03:30,375 --> 01:03:32,667 - Sounds great, doesn't it? 1340 01:03:32,750 --> 01:03:36,125 I mean, what could be wrong with that? 1341 01:03:36,208 --> 01:03:37,959 You know, you get... 1342 01:03:38,041 --> 01:03:39,875 Patients get access to their medications, 1343 01:03:39,959 --> 01:03:42,875 and there's effective law enforcement. 1344 01:03:42,959 --> 01:03:45,166 So why would anybody be opposed to that? 1345 01:03:45,250 --> 01:03:47,834 This is one of these kind of non sequiturs. 1346 01:03:47,917 --> 01:03:51,000 It's like one of the most bizarre names for a bill 1347 01:03:51,083 --> 01:03:53,667 that does everything the opposite. 1348 01:03:53,750 --> 01:03:57,333 Narrator: Instead of passing a law to protect patients, 1349 01:03:57,417 --> 01:04:00,166 members of Congress worked hard to pass a bill 1350 01:04:00,250 --> 01:04:03,709 that would undercut the DEA's power to stop companies 1351 01:04:03,792 --> 01:04:07,250 from recklessly flooding the country with narcotics. 1352 01:04:07,333 --> 01:04:08,792 To understand why, 1353 01:04:08,875 --> 01:04:10,875 it helps to look at how Cardinal had retained 1354 01:04:10,959 --> 01:04:14,542 a former DEA official who was perfectly positioned 1355 01:04:14,625 --> 01:04:18,208 to persuade Congress to do the wrong thing. 1356 01:04:18,291 --> 01:04:19,709 The chair recognizes Mr. Barber. 1357 01:04:19,792 --> 01:04:21,184 Five minutes for an opening statement. 1358 01:04:21,208 --> 01:04:22,375 Good morning, Mr. Chairman. 1359 01:04:22,458 --> 01:04:24,375 For the last 3 1/2 years as the director 1360 01:04:24,458 --> 01:04:26,959 of the DEA compliance and litigation practice 1361 01:04:27,041 --> 01:04:28,041 at Quarels & Brady, 1362 01:04:28,125 --> 01:04:31,542 I have dealt with registrants on a daily basis, 1363 01:04:31,625 --> 01:04:35,000 but prior to that, I was the Associate Chief Counsel at DEA. 1364 01:04:35,083 --> 01:04:37,041 I worked at the agency for 12 years... 1365 01:04:37,125 --> 01:04:39,792 Linden Barber left the DEA 1366 01:04:39,875 --> 01:04:42,000 and formed his own practice 1367 01:04:42,083 --> 01:04:44,291 within a law firm here in town, 1368 01:04:44,375 --> 01:04:46,583 representing the very same companies 1369 01:04:46,667 --> 01:04:48,375 that he used to go after. 1370 01:04:48,458 --> 01:04:52,208 So around and around and around it goes. 1371 01:04:52,291 --> 01:04:55,750 He brought with him the knowledge 1372 01:04:55,834 --> 01:04:59,917 of where the DEA enforcement regime is weakest, 1373 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,417 and he started to advise his clients to that effect. 1374 01:05:02,500 --> 01:05:04,250 If you have a DEA compliance issue 1375 01:05:04,333 --> 01:05:06,417 or you're facing a government investigation, 1376 01:05:06,500 --> 01:05:07,959 I'd be happy to hear from you. 1377 01:05:11,834 --> 01:05:15,250 According to email traffic that we received, 1378 01:05:15,333 --> 01:05:18,208 there was an email between a couple of people 1379 01:05:18,291 --> 01:05:19,792 at the Department of Justice, 1380 01:05:19,875 --> 01:05:23,959 and one person said Linden Barber wrote this bill. 1381 01:05:25,500 --> 01:05:27,583 Narrator: The bill completely changed the conditions 1382 01:05:27,667 --> 01:05:30,750 under which the DEA could issue a suspension order. 1383 01:05:30,834 --> 01:05:34,417 It redefined the term "imminent danger" 1384 01:05:34,500 --> 01:05:38,500 as a "substantial likelihood of an immediate threat." 1385 01:05:41,583 --> 01:05:43,458 In law, language is everything. 1386 01:05:43,542 --> 01:05:46,834 So it would be impossible for the DEA to show 1387 01:05:46,917 --> 01:05:51,834 that a drug distributor based in Ohio or Connecticut 1388 01:05:51,917 --> 01:05:53,667 or Upstate New York 1389 01:05:53,750 --> 01:05:56,250 posed an immediate threat of deaths 1390 01:05:56,333 --> 01:05:59,208 by sending drugs downstream to a community 1391 01:05:59,291 --> 01:06:00,625 in West Virginia. 1392 01:06:00,709 --> 01:06:02,792 It's just impossible. 1393 01:06:02,875 --> 01:06:04,875 You could show before it was imminent, 1394 01:06:04,959 --> 01:06:07,125 but you can't show now that it's immediate. 1395 01:06:07,208 --> 01:06:08,792 So, if they passed the legislation, 1396 01:06:08,875 --> 01:06:11,083 there would be no more immediate shutdown 1397 01:06:11,166 --> 01:06:12,625 of narcotics distribution. 1398 01:06:12,709 --> 01:06:14,458 It could happen after a hearing, 1399 01:06:14,542 --> 01:06:16,125 but it couldn't happen 1400 01:06:16,208 --> 01:06:17,250 like that. 1401 01:06:17,333 --> 01:06:18,667 The Ensuring Patient Access 1402 01:06:18,750 --> 01:06:20,333 and Effective Drug Enforcement Act 1403 01:06:20,417 --> 01:06:24,208 provides much-needed clarity in the Controlled Substances Act. 1404 01:06:24,291 --> 01:06:26,834 And DEA's authority to issue immediate suspensions 1405 01:06:26,917 --> 01:06:29,333 will be protected from judicial curtailment 1406 01:06:29,417 --> 01:06:33,000 because there will be a clear legal standard. 1407 01:06:33,083 --> 01:06:34,291 So, when Linden left 1408 01:06:34,375 --> 01:06:37,166 and then all these people that I loved 1409 01:06:37,250 --> 01:06:40,000 and loved working with, you know, begin leaving, 1410 01:06:40,083 --> 01:06:41,625 and they're leaving to go work 1411 01:06:41,709 --> 01:06:43,667 for who they claimed were the bad guys. 1412 01:06:43,750 --> 01:06:47,041 And they take that same righteous anger that they had 1413 01:06:47,125 --> 01:06:49,125 working for DEA, 1414 01:06:49,208 --> 01:06:51,333 and now they're using that righteous anger 1415 01:06:51,417 --> 01:06:52,333 on the other side. 1416 01:06:52,417 --> 01:06:54,208 I don't know how you do that. 1417 01:06:54,291 --> 01:06:56,500 You know, if you go and work for the drug company, 1418 01:06:56,583 --> 01:06:57,834 that's you. 1419 01:06:57,917 --> 01:06:59,709 I mean, that... if you want to... 1420 01:06:59,792 --> 01:07:02,875 I never criticize a man for how he's making his money. 1421 01:07:02,959 --> 01:07:06,542 As a former counsel who appeared in federal courts, 1422 01:07:06,625 --> 01:07:08,375 assisted U.S. Attorney's office 1423 01:07:08,458 --> 01:07:11,375 in defending the suspension power of the agency, 1424 01:07:11,458 --> 01:07:14,500 having a clear legal standard is always best. 1425 01:07:14,583 --> 01:07:15,667 There are federal statutes 1426 01:07:15,750 --> 01:07:17,750 that were passed around the same time as the CSA 1427 01:07:17,834 --> 01:07:20,333 that contained a definition of imminent danger... 1428 01:07:20,417 --> 01:07:23,208 I had a conversation with a key staff member 1429 01:07:23,291 --> 01:07:25,166 of the Energy & Commerce Committee, 1430 01:07:25,250 --> 01:07:29,208 who said, "We actually had somebody come up here" 1431 01:07:29,291 --> 01:07:32,208 "and testify who used to work for the DEA. 1432 01:07:32,291 --> 01:07:34,125 "He was, like, a top lawyer for the DEA 1433 01:07:34,208 --> 01:07:36,709 "who said that the law needed to be clarified, 1434 01:07:36,792 --> 01:07:38,750 and it was really important." 1435 01:07:38,834 --> 01:07:41,834 And I said, "Who was that lawyer?" 1436 01:07:41,917 --> 01:07:45,208 And the staffer said, "It was Linden Barber." 1437 01:07:45,291 --> 01:07:48,250 And I said, "Do you know who Linden Barber is? 1438 01:07:48,333 --> 01:07:49,476 Do you know who he works for?" 1439 01:07:49,500 --> 01:07:51,875 He's like, "No. Who does he work for?" 1440 01:07:51,959 --> 01:07:55,083 I said, "He represents all of these companies." 1441 01:07:57,208 --> 01:07:59,625 It was kind of a stunning moment. 1442 01:07:59,709 --> 01:08:01,583 You don't really want to see 1443 01:08:01,667 --> 01:08:03,959 how the sausage is made on Capitol Hill. 1444 01:08:09,333 --> 01:08:12,917 Our bill seeks to facilitate greater collaboration 1445 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,667 between industry stakeholders and regulators 1446 01:08:15,750 --> 01:08:20,083 in our nation's effort to combat prescription drug abuse. 1447 01:08:20,166 --> 01:08:23,291 Distributors and pharmacists are finding 1448 01:08:23,375 --> 01:08:27,291 that he unnecessary adversarial regulatory environment 1449 01:08:27,375 --> 01:08:32,083 created by the DEA is putting effective enforcement outcomes 1450 01:08:32,166 --> 01:08:33,625 in jeopardy. 1451 01:08:33,709 --> 01:08:35,333 The company's lobbyists 1452 01:08:35,417 --> 01:08:37,792 basically came up with a strategy... 1453 01:08:37,875 --> 01:08:42,125 "How can we stop the DEA from picking on us 1454 01:08:42,208 --> 01:08:44,917 and bothering us and hurting us?" 1455 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:49,166 They zeroed in on this congressman, Tom Marino, 1456 01:08:49,250 --> 01:08:53,417 and also Marsha Blackburn from Tennessee. 1457 01:08:53,500 --> 01:08:54,583 You know, it's interesting, 1458 01:08:54,667 --> 01:08:56,351 'cause Tom Marino and Marsha Blackburn's districts 1459 01:08:56,375 --> 01:08:58,458 were both really hard hit by opioids. 1460 01:08:58,542 --> 01:09:01,125 To every family member 1461 01:09:01,208 --> 01:09:04,333 who has lost a loved one to an overdose... 1462 01:09:04,417 --> 01:09:07,166 The drug industry got them on board 1463 01:09:07,250 --> 01:09:09,834 to champion their cause. 1464 01:09:09,917 --> 01:09:13,166 McKesson, Cardinal Health, AmerisourceBergen, 1465 01:09:13,250 --> 01:09:16,291 Purdue Pharma, CVS, all these companies 1466 01:09:16,375 --> 01:09:19,000 were lobbying heavily in support of this bill. 1467 01:09:19,083 --> 01:09:23,208 And most were paying Tom Marino, Marsha Blackburn, 1468 01:09:23,291 --> 01:09:26,709 Orrin Hatch, and a host of other members of Congress 1469 01:09:26,792 --> 01:09:30,333 a lot of money to get this bill passed. 1470 01:09:30,417 --> 01:09:32,125 They're getting campaign money, 1471 01:09:32,208 --> 01:09:35,500 and industry lobbyists are writing the questions 1472 01:09:35,583 --> 01:09:38,500 for them to ask the DEA officials. 1473 01:09:40,291 --> 01:09:42,417 The chair recognizes Ms. Blackburn for five minutes. 1474 01:09:42,500 --> 01:09:44,834 Thank you so much. 1475 01:09:44,917 --> 01:09:47,792 Mr. Rannazzisi... Am I saying your name correctly? 1476 01:09:47,875 --> 01:09:49,667 - Yes, ma'am. - I'm close enough, huh? 1477 01:09:49,750 --> 01:09:51,375 - Perfect. - Okay. 1478 01:09:51,458 --> 01:09:56,041 You know, we all are concerned about patients 1479 01:09:56,125 --> 01:09:58,875 that are in pain that need medication. 1480 01:09:58,959 --> 01:10:02,250 Numerous seniors in my district are complaining. 1481 01:10:02,333 --> 01:10:04,166 They call my office on a regular basis 1482 01:10:04,250 --> 01:10:06,500 'cause they can't get their pain medications. 1483 01:10:06,583 --> 01:10:07,685 It's critical that patients 1484 01:10:07,709 --> 01:10:09,559 who desperately need these medicines have access 1485 01:10:09,583 --> 01:10:10,709 without undue delay. 1486 01:10:10,792 --> 01:10:12,226 I mean, what are we doing to make sure 1487 01:10:12,250 --> 01:10:13,166 that these folks are heard from 1488 01:10:13,250 --> 01:10:14,959 and that the drugs are available? 1489 01:10:15,041 --> 01:10:18,166 We do not want patients to go without their medication, 1490 01:10:18,250 --> 01:10:20,333 true pain patients that need their medication. 1491 01:10:20,417 --> 01:10:21,500 We don't want that. 1492 01:10:21,583 --> 01:10:22,500 But there is no... 1493 01:10:22,583 --> 01:10:23,935 Tell me what you're doing about it. 1494 01:10:23,959 --> 01:10:25,208 Sometimes it seems that 1495 01:10:25,291 --> 01:10:28,208 all the DEA cares about is the number of enforcement actions 1496 01:10:28,291 --> 01:10:30,166 and not real solutions to stop the abuse. 1497 01:10:30,250 --> 01:10:33,041 - That's not correct. - Provide us some data. 1498 01:10:33,125 --> 01:10:35,417 If you would go on our website and look at the cases 1499 01:10:35,500 --> 01:10:38,750 that are posted on our website, both on the case... 1500 01:10:38,834 --> 01:10:39,917 It would've been great 1501 01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,643 had you been prepared to provide that for us. 1502 01:10:41,667 --> 01:10:44,792 Articulate what the efforts are that the DEA is engaged in. 1503 01:10:44,875 --> 01:10:47,625 Besides the on-site investigations that we do, 1504 01:10:47,709 --> 01:10:50,291 the cyclical investigations to determine compliance 1505 01:10:50,375 --> 01:10:54,208 and to assist them in complying 1506 01:10:54,291 --> 01:10:55,542 you know, besides the fact 1507 01:10:55,625 --> 01:10:57,750 that they call in and request assistance... 1508 01:10:57,834 --> 01:10:59,309 - Okay, well let me move on... - Questions? 1509 01:10:59,333 --> 01:11:01,417 Then if it's laborious. 1510 01:11:01,500 --> 01:11:04,250 I think you were ticking off... it's not laborious. 1511 01:11:04,333 --> 01:11:06,250 You asked me to tick off what I do. 1512 01:11:06,333 --> 01:11:10,625 And 16,651 people in 2010 died 1513 01:11:10,709 --> 01:11:13,125 of opiate overdose, okay? 1514 01:11:13,208 --> 01:11:15,959 Opiate-associated overdose. This is not a game. 1515 01:11:16,041 --> 01:11:17,041 We're not playing a game. 1516 01:11:17,125 --> 01:11:19,208 Nobody is saying it is a game, sir. 1517 01:11:19,291 --> 01:11:21,291 Well, yeah, kind of you did, 1518 01:11:21,375 --> 01:11:23,917 because you're questioning why we're doing this. 1519 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,250 And all you had to do is go back and look at the cases 1520 01:11:27,333 --> 01:11:30,792 that we did in '11, '12, '13, 1521 01:11:30,875 --> 01:11:32,458 all these different cases. 1522 01:11:32,542 --> 01:11:33,792 Go through the documents, 1523 01:11:33,875 --> 01:11:36,125 and you could see what they were doing. 1524 01:11:36,208 --> 01:11:39,000 But for some reason, Representative Blackburn 1525 01:11:39,083 --> 01:11:42,625 decided that she didn't want the supply chain touched. 1526 01:11:42,709 --> 01:11:45,917 And I guess it's kind of a Monday attitude sort of day. 1527 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,000 So let me move on, okay? 1528 01:11:48,083 --> 01:11:51,166 I thought maybe you were doing a little bit to help. 1529 01:11:52,625 --> 01:11:56,667 Then Representative Blackburn and Tom Marino 1530 01:11:56,750 --> 01:11:58,709 were investigating me for attempting 1531 01:11:58,792 --> 01:12:01,000 to intimidate Congress. 1532 01:12:01,083 --> 01:12:05,000 Joe Rannazzisi, a senior DEA official, 1533 01:12:05,083 --> 01:12:09,500 has publicly accused we sponsors of the bill 1534 01:12:09,583 --> 01:12:14,458 of "supporting criminals." 1535 01:12:14,542 --> 01:12:17,291 This offends me immensely. 1536 01:12:19,250 --> 01:12:22,667 What happened was we had a telephone call, 1537 01:12:22,750 --> 01:12:24,709 and we started arguing. 1538 01:12:24,792 --> 01:12:28,125 And I said, "If you pass this bill, 1539 01:12:28,208 --> 01:12:31,625 "it's going to stop us from doing our jobs, 1540 01:12:31,709 --> 01:12:34,250 "our ability to stop the hemorrhaging. 1541 01:12:34,333 --> 01:12:38,208 "And with all these people dying, well, you know, 1542 01:12:38,291 --> 01:12:40,375 "if this bill passes, that blood's on your hands. 1543 01:12:40,458 --> 01:12:42,417 It's not on mine." 1544 01:12:43,834 --> 01:12:45,250 They filed a complaint 1545 01:12:45,333 --> 01:12:47,709 with the Office of the Inspector General. 1546 01:12:47,792 --> 01:12:50,750 Ultimately, that was the end of my career. 1547 01:12:50,834 --> 01:12:51,750 It was a management change. 1548 01:12:51,834 --> 01:12:53,083 A new guy came in, 1549 01:12:53,166 --> 01:12:55,875 replaced me with a guy who had no pharmaceutical experience, 1550 01:12:55,959 --> 01:13:00,250 and in 2015, after I retired, they replaced my whole staff. 1551 01:13:00,333 --> 01:13:03,375 Now, this is important 'cause this is the perfect storm 1552 01:13:03,458 --> 01:13:05,333 for bad policy and legislation... 1553 01:13:05,417 --> 01:13:07,709 Regulatory pressure on powerful industry, 1554 01:13:07,792 --> 01:13:09,542 money, lobbying, and Congress. 1555 01:13:09,625 --> 01:13:11,125 And that's exactly what happened. 1556 01:13:11,208 --> 01:13:12,500 Without objection, 1557 01:13:12,583 --> 01:13:15,333 the bill was read a third time and passed. 1558 01:13:15,417 --> 01:13:17,959 They all passed it without even a vote. 1559 01:13:18,041 --> 01:13:20,083 It was just unanimous consent, 1560 01:13:20,166 --> 01:13:22,959 which just means that it will pass, 1561 01:13:23,041 --> 01:13:24,750 but if one member of Congress stands up 1562 01:13:24,834 --> 01:13:27,041 and says, "I'm against this," 1563 01:13:27,125 --> 01:13:28,875 the bill stops dead in its tracks, 1564 01:13:28,959 --> 01:13:29,976 and they have to vote on it. 1565 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:34,208 Not one member of Congress stood up and said, 1566 01:13:34,291 --> 01:13:36,208 "I object to this bill." 1567 01:13:36,291 --> 01:13:37,542 This is bipartisan. 1568 01:13:37,625 --> 01:13:39,250 The Democrats and the Republicans 1569 01:13:39,333 --> 01:13:41,792 saw the importance in this and got together. 1570 01:13:41,875 --> 01:13:44,792 People don't like to hear this, but 1571 01:13:44,875 --> 01:13:48,542 nobody really realized what the language change meant. 1572 01:13:48,625 --> 01:13:50,583 I don't think that they read it. 1573 01:13:50,667 --> 01:13:52,792 I think the vast majority of bills that get passed 1574 01:13:52,875 --> 01:13:54,125 on Capitol Hill... 1575 01:13:54,208 --> 01:13:56,917 Legislators do not read those bills. 1576 01:13:57,041 --> 01:13:58,792 And they had no excuse for this one, 1577 01:13:58,875 --> 01:14:01,291 because it was, like, three pages. 1578 01:14:01,375 --> 01:14:05,291 And the key paragraph is on the first page. 1579 01:14:05,375 --> 01:14:07,792 They were just asleep at the switch, 1580 01:14:07,875 --> 01:14:09,917 and they gutted the DEA's ability 1581 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,959 to go after these companies. 1582 01:14:13,041 --> 01:14:16,625 People were dying by the tens of thousands, 1583 01:14:16,709 --> 01:14:18,792 and their own representatives 1584 01:14:18,875 --> 01:14:20,834 are basically selling 'em down the river. 1585 01:14:20,917 --> 01:14:23,458 It's one of the most outrageous things I've ever seen 1586 01:14:23,542 --> 01:14:26,458 in the 35 years I've been doing this. 1587 01:14:26,542 --> 01:14:30,417 Was there any controversy or any pause by President Obama 1588 01:14:30,500 --> 01:14:33,834 when the law went to his desk for signature? 1589 01:14:33,917 --> 01:14:35,291 None. 1590 01:14:35,375 --> 01:14:38,792 It just sailed right through his office. 1591 01:14:38,875 --> 01:14:42,333 And it's... to this day, it's, like, the big mystery. 1592 01:14:42,417 --> 01:14:44,542 I mean, nobody would talk to us. 1593 01:14:44,625 --> 01:14:47,208 The head of the DEA wouldn't talk to us. 1594 01:14:47,291 --> 01:14:49,171 The head of the Office of Management and Budget, 1595 01:14:49,250 --> 01:14:51,125 which signs off on every piece of legislation, 1596 01:14:51,208 --> 01:14:52,333 wouldn't talk to us. 1597 01:14:52,417 --> 01:14:54,458 The top lawyer for the White House 1598 01:14:54,542 --> 01:14:55,667 wouldn't talk to us. 1599 01:14:55,750 --> 01:14:58,208 The president wouldn't talk to us. 1600 01:14:58,291 --> 01:15:00,208 It's incredibly unusual. 1601 01:15:00,291 --> 01:15:02,208 Mr. President-elect 1602 01:15:02,291 --> 01:15:04,458 narrator: The incoming Trump administration pledged 1603 01:15:04,542 --> 01:15:07,333 to do better than Obama, but when it came time 1604 01:15:07,417 --> 01:15:09,792 for Trump to announce his drug czar, 1605 01:15:09,875 --> 01:15:12,625 he named Tom Marino, the man who spearheaded 1606 01:15:12,709 --> 01:15:15,000 the law to protect the opioid companies. 1607 01:15:17,417 --> 01:15:19,500 Following the passage of the Marino bill, 1608 01:15:19,583 --> 01:15:23,542 opioid prescriptions soared in some parts of the country. 1609 01:15:23,625 --> 01:15:25,917 Yet in many states, there were also countercurrents 1610 01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,375 that swirled in unpredictable ways. 1611 01:15:29,458 --> 01:15:31,250 As far back as 2012, 1612 01:15:31,333 --> 01:15:34,875 a building resistance to opioids was colliding 1613 01:15:34,959 --> 01:15:38,041 with a growing dependence on them. 1614 01:15:38,125 --> 01:15:39,333 You have millions of people 1615 01:15:39,417 --> 01:15:40,875 who start using these drugs 1616 01:15:40,959 --> 01:15:42,542 and become dependent. 1617 01:15:42,625 --> 01:15:43,875 And then 1618 01:15:43,959 --> 01:15:45,041 a series of things happen 1619 01:15:45,125 --> 01:15:48,709 that are good things that should've happened earlier. 1620 01:15:48,792 --> 01:15:52,041 States start tightening up regulations, 1621 01:15:52,125 --> 01:15:54,208 pill mills shut down, 1622 01:15:54,291 --> 01:15:56,291 doctors get a little more careful 1623 01:15:56,375 --> 01:15:58,291 about writing prescriptions. 1624 01:15:58,375 --> 01:16:00,875 These changes are good to one way of thinking, 1625 01:16:00,959 --> 01:16:03,542 in the sense that they make it harder 1626 01:16:03,625 --> 01:16:07,417 to buy and abuse pharmaceutical opioids. 1627 01:16:07,500 --> 01:16:10,041 But what that does is it drives all these people 1628 01:16:10,125 --> 01:16:13,458 who are already addicted on to the black market. 1629 01:16:15,500 --> 01:16:17,300 Narrator: The illegal trafficking of narcotics 1630 01:16:17,333 --> 01:16:19,750 increased due to growing demand. 1631 01:16:19,834 --> 01:16:22,125 International drug cartels catered to those 1632 01:16:22,208 --> 01:16:25,083 who had become addicted to prescription pills. 1633 01:16:25,166 --> 01:16:27,291 As their need for narcotics increased 1634 01:16:27,375 --> 01:16:28,709 and doctors were more reluctant 1635 01:16:28,792 --> 01:16:30,792 to prescribe rising doses, 1636 01:16:30,875 --> 01:16:32,750 users turned to heroin 1637 01:16:32,834 --> 01:16:36,083 and a synthetic opioid 50 times more powerful... 1638 01:16:36,166 --> 01:16:37,375 Fentanyl. 1639 01:16:44,041 --> 01:16:46,125 Fentanyl has been around, 1640 01:16:46,208 --> 01:16:47,959 you know, decades and decades 1641 01:16:48,041 --> 01:16:51,375 and still today has an extremely important use 1642 01:16:51,458 --> 01:16:55,125 medically within the medical community. 1643 01:16:55,208 --> 01:16:57,291 For the illicit side, 1644 01:16:57,375 --> 01:17:00,750 when OxyContin and these things kind of came into the market 1645 01:17:00,834 --> 01:17:05,333 in the 1990s and then people becoming physically addicted 1646 01:17:05,417 --> 01:17:07,333 to it unknowingly, 1647 01:17:07,417 --> 01:17:08,959 if we look at enforcement 1648 01:17:09,041 --> 01:17:11,625 against the pharmaceutical industry that took place 1649 01:17:11,709 --> 01:17:14,959 and against doctors and how things are being prescribed, 1650 01:17:15,041 --> 01:17:18,000 the people who utilized those drugs, 1651 01:17:18,083 --> 01:17:20,834 they now were kind of cut off in their supply. 1652 01:17:20,917 --> 01:17:25,625 And cartels and the illicit side of the markets 1653 01:17:25,709 --> 01:17:27,792 went to fill the void. 1654 01:17:34,875 --> 01:17:38,500 This is the busiest port of entry in the United States. 1655 01:17:38,583 --> 01:17:40,351 So we're talking about thousands and thousands 1656 01:17:40,375 --> 01:17:44,166 and thousands of people that come through every day. 1657 01:17:44,250 --> 01:17:45,625 The San Ysidro port, 1658 01:17:45,709 --> 01:17:49,291 the first time fentanyl was really intercepted here 1659 01:17:49,375 --> 01:17:53,166 in bulk quantity was in 2014. 1660 01:17:53,250 --> 01:17:54,333 And since then, 1661 01:17:54,417 --> 01:17:57,250 it has just kind of grown out exponentially. 1662 01:17:57,333 --> 01:18:00,709 It's just part of almost daily intercept loads here. 1663 01:18:03,375 --> 01:18:08,250 I can tell you that there is Chinese-produced fentanyl 1664 01:18:08,333 --> 01:18:11,875 that has entered the United States through the port, 1665 01:18:11,959 --> 01:18:15,583 but there is also illicitly made fentanyl 1666 01:18:15,667 --> 01:18:19,542 from other locations that have come through the port. 1667 01:18:29,125 --> 01:18:31,500 narrator: Since 2015, 1668 01:18:31,583 --> 01:18:35,208 fentanyl overdoses have been rising dramatically. 1669 01:18:35,291 --> 01:18:38,583 Rates have soared by 2,000% in San Diego, 1670 01:18:38,667 --> 01:18:40,208 where a federal task force 1671 01:18:40,291 --> 01:18:42,375 is seeking to prosecute dealers 1672 01:18:42,458 --> 01:18:44,166 for the deaths of their buyers. 1673 01:18:46,083 --> 01:18:48,583 One case involved a 24-year-old college student 1674 01:18:48,667 --> 01:18:50,583 named Sarah Fuzzell. 1675 01:18:50,667 --> 01:18:53,709 Her parents called her their angel on Earth. 1676 01:18:53,792 --> 01:18:56,250 After getting hooked on prescription painkillers, 1677 01:18:56,333 --> 01:18:58,417 she battled addiction for five years 1678 01:18:58,500 --> 01:19:01,875 until the pandemic shut down her support network. 1679 01:19:01,959 --> 01:19:03,583 After dropping out of school, 1680 01:19:03,667 --> 01:19:06,125 she died of a fentanyl overdose. 1681 01:19:07,875 --> 01:19:10,750 The father of the girl who had passed away 1682 01:19:10,834 --> 01:19:12,917 had been reaching out, and he said that 1683 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,875 when he received her property back, 1684 01:19:14,959 --> 01:19:16,917 her cell phone, when it turned on 1685 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:17,917 and was powered up, 1686 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:19,542 that the person that they believe 1687 01:19:19,625 --> 01:19:21,417 had sold the drugs to their daughter 1688 01:19:21,500 --> 01:19:24,083 was still communicating through the phone. 1689 01:19:25,625 --> 01:19:28,083 They gave us the phone so we could utilize it 1690 01:19:28,166 --> 01:19:30,792 for investigative value. 1691 01:19:32,667 --> 01:19:34,347 You almost have to manufacture the energy 1692 01:19:34,375 --> 01:19:36,250 to even want to reach out 1693 01:19:36,333 --> 01:19:38,291 to, like, law enforcement... You guys... 1694 01:19:38,375 --> 01:19:39,458 Because, you know, 1695 01:19:39,542 --> 01:19:41,834 the ultimate goal of wishing Sarah wasn't dead, 1696 01:19:41,917 --> 01:19:44,250 that's not a possibility to change that. 1697 01:19:44,333 --> 01:19:46,542 So, you know, there's probably some families 1698 01:19:46,625 --> 01:19:48,625 that just kind of quietly go away 1699 01:19:48,709 --> 01:19:51,667 just because there's so much hurt. 1700 01:19:51,750 --> 01:19:54,625 But we're wide open to doing anything that we can do 1701 01:19:54,709 --> 01:19:56,500 - that will help. - Yeah. 1702 01:19:56,583 --> 01:19:59,834 So let me just give you kind of a quick rundown... 1703 01:19:59,917 --> 01:20:00,792 Okay. 1704 01:20:00,875 --> 01:20:02,750 Of kind of what took place. 1705 01:20:11,333 --> 01:20:14,667 We spent well over 40-straight man-hours... 1706 01:20:17,083 --> 01:20:21,333 Between about 15 to 30 people at one time 1707 01:20:21,417 --> 01:20:22,792 getting this to go down. 1708 01:20:24,375 --> 01:20:25,495 Basically what we're doing 1709 01:20:25,542 --> 01:20:28,792 is we're targeting a suspected fentanyl distributor 1710 01:20:28,875 --> 01:20:30,542 who we believe is responsible 1711 01:20:30,625 --> 01:20:34,000 for a recent overdose drug death. 1712 01:20:34,083 --> 01:20:35,959 And, essentially, what we're doing 1713 01:20:36,041 --> 01:20:38,959 is we're trying to lure the distributor out 1714 01:20:39,041 --> 01:20:40,625 to this particular parking lot, 1715 01:20:40,709 --> 01:20:43,375 and then we're gonna place that person under arrest. 1716 01:21:00,291 --> 01:21:02,542 - So... - Oh, sweet. 1717 01:22:10,166 --> 01:22:12,041 Yeah, Wasser to all code five units. 1718 01:22:12,125 --> 01:22:14,208 Try to set something up for tomorrow. 1719 01:22:14,291 --> 01:22:16,542 I think we've been pushy enough for the day, 1720 01:22:16,625 --> 01:22:18,083 and I think it's just best 1721 01:22:18,166 --> 01:22:21,625 that we back off for the moment, break. 1722 01:22:21,709 --> 01:22:23,125 We had a hard time. 1723 01:22:23,208 --> 01:22:24,625 We set up for it. 1724 01:22:24,709 --> 01:22:26,667 We spent the entire day waiting, 1725 01:22:26,750 --> 01:22:29,500 and we never were able to make that contact. 1726 01:22:29,583 --> 01:22:30,959 Okay. 1727 01:22:31,041 --> 01:22:32,291 We really appreciate 1728 01:22:32,375 --> 01:22:34,615 what you and your task force and all are doing, you know? 1729 01:22:34,667 --> 01:22:36,500 It's making a difference. 1730 01:22:39,709 --> 01:22:40,792 Every day 1731 01:22:40,875 --> 01:22:43,125 it is a continuous game of cat and mouse, 1732 01:22:43,208 --> 01:22:46,166 where, you know, the impact of the death 1733 01:22:46,250 --> 01:22:51,583 is one piece of this entire puzzle. 1734 01:22:51,667 --> 01:22:54,458 You have people who are nefariously producing it, 1735 01:22:54,542 --> 01:22:56,291 people who are buying, procuring chemicals, 1736 01:22:56,375 --> 01:22:57,834 moving that stuff around the world, 1737 01:22:57,917 --> 01:23:01,291 looking for people to perfect a new recipe 1738 01:23:01,375 --> 01:23:04,542 or way to market it in a faster way. 1739 01:23:06,792 --> 01:23:09,709 narrator: To figure out the puzzle of the opioid crisis, 1740 01:23:09,792 --> 01:23:12,000 you have to look for ill-fitting pieces 1741 01:23:12,083 --> 01:23:14,417 all over the country. 1742 01:23:14,500 --> 01:23:15,959 In Lubbock, Texas, 1743 01:23:16,041 --> 01:23:18,000 the DEA opened an investigation 1744 01:23:18,083 --> 01:23:21,000 into a possible drug cartel operation 1745 01:23:21,083 --> 01:23:23,667 when the medical examiner reported a sudden rise 1746 01:23:23,750 --> 01:23:26,291 in deaths from fentanyl overdoses. 1747 01:23:26,375 --> 01:23:29,333 But something surprised the agents. 1748 01:23:29,417 --> 01:23:30,834 The likely kingpin turned out 1749 01:23:30,917 --> 01:23:33,208 not to be a professional criminal. 1750 01:23:33,291 --> 01:23:34,542 Instead, 1751 01:23:34,625 --> 01:23:37,500 all evidence seemed to lead to a local computer repair man 1752 01:23:37,583 --> 01:23:39,166 named Caleb Lanier. 1753 01:24:07,625 --> 01:24:09,267 I guess there's a couple times in my life 1754 01:24:09,291 --> 01:24:12,542 where I could've walked away, but it's so hard. 1755 01:24:12,625 --> 01:24:14,709 When the doctors start prescribing these drugs, 1756 01:24:14,792 --> 01:24:16,208 get you addicted to them, 1757 01:24:16,291 --> 01:24:18,667 it numbs you, and it's dangerous 1758 01:24:18,750 --> 01:24:22,083 because somebody that's depressed and has anxiety 1759 01:24:22,166 --> 01:24:24,083 and now doesn't feel the fears and doesn't... 1760 01:24:24,166 --> 01:24:26,041 They're going to do things like I did. 1761 01:24:26,125 --> 01:24:27,125 They are. 1762 01:24:33,667 --> 01:24:36,250 I grew up in a little town called Clovis, New Mexico. 1763 01:24:36,333 --> 01:24:38,917 It's on the border of Texas and New Mexico. 1764 01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,750 About 40,000 people at the time. 1765 01:24:41,834 --> 01:24:43,625 Pretty normal family. 1766 01:24:43,709 --> 01:24:45,333 My parents did everything they could 1767 01:24:45,417 --> 01:24:47,583 to help me the best they could. 1768 01:24:47,667 --> 01:24:49,267 Three sisters that are all older than me, 1769 01:24:49,333 --> 01:24:51,542 so definitely got picked on a little bit from them, 1770 01:24:51,625 --> 01:24:52,643 but I knew they all loved me 1771 01:24:52,667 --> 01:24:54,250 and I had support, so, you know, 1772 01:24:54,333 --> 01:24:56,625 it wasn't a matter of me not having loved ones around me 1773 01:24:56,709 --> 01:24:58,750 or growing up in a rough neighborhood 1774 01:24:58,834 --> 01:25:02,208 or anything like that that led to the path that I'm at now. 1775 01:25:08,041 --> 01:25:10,959 Now, I got ran over by a pickup truck in 2001. 1776 01:25:11,041 --> 01:25:14,625 Ran across my right leg, across my chest, 1777 01:25:14,709 --> 01:25:16,458 and up off my left shoulder. 1778 01:25:16,542 --> 01:25:17,559 Needless to say, from that point on, 1779 01:25:17,583 --> 01:25:19,458 I've dealt with pain my entire life... 1780 01:25:19,542 --> 01:25:21,375 Physical pain, emotional pain as well. 1781 01:25:21,458 --> 01:25:24,250 It's hard to even talk about it. 1782 01:25:24,333 --> 01:25:26,458 I started taking very heavy opiates. 1783 01:25:26,542 --> 01:25:27,625 I was being prescribed 1784 01:25:27,709 --> 01:25:30,458 40 milligrams of OxyContin with 2 milligrams Xanax 1785 01:25:30,542 --> 01:25:31,750 from day one, 1786 01:25:31,834 --> 01:25:33,851 and that's huge amounts of opiates and Xanax together, 1787 01:25:33,875 --> 01:25:36,792 which is not supposed to be prescribed to begin with. 1788 01:25:36,875 --> 01:25:38,667 I became addicted pretty quickly. 1789 01:25:41,083 --> 01:25:44,083 He would go to a doctor in Portales, New Mexico. 1790 01:25:44,166 --> 01:25:46,291 I went with him a couple of times. 1791 01:25:46,375 --> 01:25:49,000 He would say, "Oh, I researched this medication, 1792 01:25:49,083 --> 01:25:50,000 and I'd like to try it." 1793 01:25:50,083 --> 01:25:52,500 And she said, "Okay, Caleb." 1794 01:25:52,583 --> 01:25:54,500 The first time, I didn't think anything of it. 1795 01:25:54,583 --> 01:25:56,875 And then after a couple of times 1796 01:25:56,959 --> 01:25:58,709 and him switching up medications 1797 01:25:58,792 --> 01:26:01,333 and her not even looking into it, 1798 01:26:01,417 --> 01:26:03,417 just prescribing him whatever he wanted, 1799 01:26:03,500 --> 01:26:05,291 I said, "Wow, I don't think 1800 01:26:05,375 --> 01:26:07,500 that she should be prescribing you whatever you want." 1801 01:26:07,583 --> 01:26:09,500 And he said, "Oh, no, she's my family doctor. 1802 01:26:09,583 --> 01:26:11,667 She trusts me. She knows I do the research." 1803 01:26:11,750 --> 01:26:14,125 And that was probably my first inkling 1804 01:26:14,208 --> 01:26:16,125 that, you know, something was wrong. 1805 01:26:18,750 --> 01:26:19,834 Pain has an issue 1806 01:26:19,917 --> 01:26:22,000 of causing people to become depressed. 1807 01:26:22,083 --> 01:26:23,959 I mean, it's just... It's part of it, you know? 1808 01:26:24,041 --> 01:26:25,361 When you deal with it every day... 1809 01:26:25,417 --> 01:26:26,834 I explain it like a roller coaster, 1810 01:26:26,917 --> 01:26:28,226 and you're on that roller coaster, 1811 01:26:28,250 --> 01:26:29,768 and you're getting nauseous, and you're about to vomit, 1812 01:26:29,792 --> 01:26:31,667 and every time the roller coaster comes around, 1813 01:26:31,750 --> 01:26:34,166 you're looking at the guy that has that stop switch. 1814 01:26:34,250 --> 01:26:36,417 And you're like, "Stop this thing. I want off." 1815 01:26:36,500 --> 01:26:40,083 But there's no stopping. It's the rest of your life. 1816 01:26:40,166 --> 01:26:41,375 It wears on you. 1817 01:26:41,458 --> 01:26:42,935 You look at the things that you used to be able to do, 1818 01:26:42,959 --> 01:26:44,476 the things you want to do with your family, 1819 01:26:44,500 --> 01:26:46,220 the things you want to do with your friends, 1820 01:26:46,291 --> 01:26:47,834 and you can't do them. 1821 01:26:50,834 --> 01:26:52,375 I got where I was using so much 1822 01:26:52,458 --> 01:26:55,041 that I would go through my entire prescription 1823 01:26:55,125 --> 01:26:58,583 within the first four days of the month. 1824 01:26:58,667 --> 01:27:00,333 You're so tired of this roller coaster, 1825 01:27:00,417 --> 01:27:03,417 you'd rather just put a needle in your arm 1826 01:27:03,500 --> 01:27:06,041 and make the pain go away. 1827 01:27:06,125 --> 01:27:09,458 I started using heroin at that point. 1828 01:27:09,542 --> 01:27:11,625 Heroin worked for a short period of time, 1829 01:27:11,709 --> 01:27:13,208 but it was too expensive. 1830 01:27:13,291 --> 01:27:15,709 I had also been on fentanyl, 1831 01:27:15,792 --> 01:27:20,750 and that led to me finding it on the Internet. 1832 01:27:33,333 --> 01:27:34,709 The first thing that we saw... 1833 01:27:34,792 --> 01:27:36,417 There was a shipment of fentanyl 1834 01:27:36,500 --> 01:27:38,208 that was destined to Lubbock, Texas, 1835 01:27:38,291 --> 01:27:40,583 that was seized by Customs and Border Protection 1836 01:27:40,667 --> 01:27:43,417 in November of 2015. 1837 01:27:43,500 --> 01:27:45,709 We started talking to Lubbock Police Department, 1838 01:27:45,792 --> 01:27:47,458 the sheriff's office, narcotics units, 1839 01:27:47,542 --> 01:27:49,662 and we discovered that they were also seeing an uptick 1840 01:27:49,709 --> 01:27:50,625 in fentanyl. 1841 01:27:50,709 --> 01:27:53,792 They were buying it in street-level sales. 1842 01:27:53,875 --> 01:27:57,667 And then we had several people that walked into our door 1843 01:27:57,750 --> 01:28:01,291 that were fentanyl users that had gone to drug rehab. 1844 01:28:01,375 --> 01:28:05,041 We took the intelligence from those individuals, 1845 01:28:05,125 --> 01:28:08,875 and we started extensive surveillance on Caleb Lanier. 1846 01:28:08,959 --> 01:28:10,500 And we discovered that, yes, 1847 01:28:10,583 --> 01:28:13,291 this is the person that's using the dark web, 1848 01:28:13,375 --> 01:28:15,500 reaching out to labs in China directly. 1849 01:28:15,583 --> 01:28:17,333 - Hello, everyone. 1850 01:28:17,417 --> 01:28:20,208 We are the vendor of research chemical products. 1851 01:28:20,291 --> 01:28:23,834 Include 2-FDCK, etizolam... 1852 01:28:26,500 --> 01:28:28,834 He had a wood shed behind his house 1853 01:28:28,917 --> 01:28:32,208 that he used as a modified chemistry lab. 1854 01:28:32,291 --> 01:28:34,041 He was experimenting extensively 1855 01:28:34,125 --> 01:28:37,166 with different variants of fentanyl... 1856 01:28:37,250 --> 01:28:39,041 Furanyl fentanyl, acrylofentanyl. 1857 01:28:39,125 --> 01:28:40,834 And he was tweaking them 1858 01:28:40,917 --> 01:28:42,333 and he was using them on himself 1859 01:28:42,417 --> 01:28:45,375 to try to figure out which provided the best high, 1860 01:28:45,458 --> 01:28:47,000 which lasted the longest, 1861 01:28:47,083 --> 01:28:49,667 and he figured out a way that he could maximize his profits 1862 01:28:49,750 --> 01:28:51,667 while he was also treating himself. 1863 01:28:54,333 --> 01:28:55,792 I thought I was a good father. 1864 01:28:55,875 --> 01:28:57,101 I thought I was a good husband, 1865 01:28:57,125 --> 01:29:01,834 but it look back at it sober and realize it's insane. 1866 01:29:01,917 --> 01:29:03,333 Most heroin addicts might shoot up 1867 01:29:03,417 --> 01:29:04,667 two, three times a day. 1868 01:29:04,750 --> 01:29:06,166 I was shooting 20 times a day. 1869 01:29:06,250 --> 01:29:08,333 There was times I was so high, right, 1870 01:29:08,417 --> 01:29:11,542 that I would fall asleep while I'm counting $100 bills. 1871 01:29:11,625 --> 01:29:13,166 I would have to get my children 1872 01:29:13,250 --> 01:29:14,625 to help me count the money. 1873 01:29:18,125 --> 01:29:22,375 Lanier, he was a victim of the opioid epidemic, 1874 01:29:22,458 --> 01:29:25,417 but then he starting selling, distributing, 1875 01:29:25,500 --> 01:29:28,542 and he realized the profitability in it. 1876 01:29:28,625 --> 01:29:32,041 He could import 200 grams of fentanyl from China 1877 01:29:32,125 --> 01:29:34,500 for around $3,500, 1878 01:29:34,583 --> 01:29:38,875 and he was making over $300,000 in profit. 1879 01:29:38,959 --> 01:29:41,709 He started developing ways to launder his money. 1880 01:29:41,792 --> 01:29:43,667 He had a new business 1881 01:29:43,750 --> 01:29:46,917 that had a lot of cash deposits that weren't normal. 1882 01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:48,709 He started recruiting other people 1883 01:29:48,792 --> 01:29:50,542 to sell fentanyl in the street, 1884 01:29:50,625 --> 01:29:54,041 to gather money to take back to Lanier. 1885 01:29:54,125 --> 01:29:56,709 He became the leader of a drug-trafficking organization. 1886 01:29:58,333 --> 01:30:00,750 The fentanyl that they were bringing in the community 1887 01:30:00,834 --> 01:30:02,583 attracted a whole new branch of people 1888 01:30:02,667 --> 01:30:05,291 that normally wouldn't even be associated with opioids. 1889 01:30:05,375 --> 01:30:08,083 We had people from all walks of life 1890 01:30:08,166 --> 01:30:09,375 overdosing on fentanyl, 1891 01:30:09,458 --> 01:30:11,750 and we knew that if we didn't get 1892 01:30:11,834 --> 01:30:13,083 a handle on it really quick, 1893 01:30:13,166 --> 01:30:15,542 it was gonna be a bigger and bigger problem. 1894 01:30:19,458 --> 01:30:20,750 When you look at this problem, 1895 01:30:20,834 --> 01:30:22,834 it can look, from a distance, 1896 01:30:22,917 --> 01:30:25,583 forbiddingly complex, but, actually, 1897 01:30:25,667 --> 01:30:29,458 there's a mechanism that should be pretty easy to understand. 1898 01:30:29,542 --> 01:30:31,917 So what Purdue would say today... 1899 01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:33,750 What a lot of these pharmaceutical companies 1900 01:30:33,834 --> 01:30:35,917 say today is... 1901 01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:38,250 "Don't blame us for the opioid crisis. 1902 01:30:38,333 --> 01:30:40,583 "These people today, they're dying from heroin. 1903 01:30:40,667 --> 01:30:42,458 They're dying from fentanyl." 1904 01:30:42,542 --> 01:30:44,667 As though the roots of this thing, 1905 01:30:44,750 --> 01:30:46,667 it was some foreign invasion, 1906 01:30:46,750 --> 01:30:50,417 when the truth is that the pharmaceutical companies 1907 01:30:50,500 --> 01:30:53,125 got very good at getting people on to opioids 1908 01:30:53,208 --> 01:30:55,625 but not at getting them off. 1909 01:31:10,250 --> 01:31:12,792 Titration, it's actually the responsible thing to do, 1910 01:31:12,875 --> 01:31:14,458 but not in this regard. 1911 01:31:14,542 --> 01:31:17,417 But, typically, what you're supposed to do is start low, 1912 01:31:17,500 --> 01:31:18,750 and titrate slow. 1913 01:31:18,834 --> 01:31:21,333 You're supposed to titrate up to the appropriate level. 1914 01:31:21,417 --> 01:31:22,333 Now, this is something 1915 01:31:22,417 --> 01:31:23,893 that happens in medicine all the time, 1916 01:31:23,917 --> 01:31:25,667 and it's totally normal, right? 1917 01:31:25,750 --> 01:31:28,000 Start the low dose, play it conservative. 1918 01:31:28,083 --> 01:31:31,083 It's simply about balancing the side effects with efficacy. 1919 01:31:40,917 --> 01:31:43,083 But at Insys, was the higher, the better. 1920 01:31:43,166 --> 01:31:45,375 It was called the effective dose campaign. 1921 01:31:45,458 --> 01:31:48,709 It was a campaign that was created by Dr. John Kapoor. 1922 01:31:51,417 --> 01:31:52,667 What Kapoor said unequivocally 1923 01:31:52,750 --> 01:31:55,166 and what is in black and white in emails 1924 01:31:55,250 --> 01:31:56,834 is they knew that if you got 1925 01:31:56,917 --> 01:31:58,333 to a 400-microgram dose or higher, 1926 01:31:58,417 --> 01:32:00,333 they would stay on the drug longer, 1927 01:32:00,417 --> 01:32:02,542 and so they'd make more money. 1928 01:32:06,917 --> 01:32:08,250 In the context of this video, 1929 01:32:08,333 --> 01:32:11,041 it's like titrate means, like, goose up the dosage, 1930 01:32:11,125 --> 01:32:12,309 and then we're gonna make more money. 1931 01:32:12,333 --> 01:32:15,542 - Is that the idea? 1932 01:32:15,625 --> 01:32:16,500 Yes. 1933 01:32:16,583 --> 01:32:17,726 They spent a lot of time and energy 1934 01:32:17,750 --> 01:32:20,041 trying to convince sales reps to do this, 1935 01:32:20,125 --> 01:32:22,542 and some of the more absurd aspects of the case 1936 01:32:22,625 --> 01:32:23,875 with this bottle, 1937 01:32:23,959 --> 01:32:26,542 of a 1,600-microgram dose of Subsys 1938 01:32:26,625 --> 01:32:28,583 dancing around to a rap 1939 01:32:28,667 --> 01:32:30,667 written over a popular A$AP Rocky song, 1940 01:32:30,750 --> 01:32:32,110 trying to convince the sales force, 1941 01:32:32,166 --> 01:32:34,375 "Go tell your doctor titration's not a problem." 1942 01:32:36,959 --> 01:32:39,542 That video was the worst possible move 1943 01:32:39,625 --> 01:32:40,792 we could've ever made. 1944 01:32:40,875 --> 01:32:44,542 We asked the sales force to put together a short video, 1945 01:32:44,625 --> 01:32:47,917 and then we would provide the award to the best video. 1946 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:49,250 All right, dude! 1947 01:32:49,333 --> 01:32:50,976 - Dude, we killed it last year. - We demolished it last year. 1948 01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:52,280 Reps are gonna be gunning for us. 1949 01:32:52,333 --> 01:32:53,417 Absolutely. 1950 01:32:53,500 --> 01:32:56,709 So these two really sharp, good-looking guys, 1951 01:32:56,792 --> 01:32:58,834 you know, who look like models, supermodels... 1952 01:33:01,166 --> 01:33:02,709 Obviously, they went all-out. 1953 01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,166 And they're phenomenal salespeople, by the way. 1954 01:33:15,625 --> 01:33:18,125 When that video first came through email, 1955 01:33:18,208 --> 01:33:20,917 I'm watching this video, and I'm engaged. 1956 01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:22,417 I was enthusiastic 1957 01:33:22,500 --> 01:33:25,000 and actually was a little bit emotional. 1958 01:33:27,709 --> 01:33:29,351 I said, "I can't believe the effort they put in. 1959 01:33:29,375 --> 01:33:30,375 I'm touched." 1960 01:33:48,166 --> 01:33:49,250 The person in the costume 1961 01:33:49,333 --> 01:33:52,458 dancing and singing and rapping, that's not me. 1962 01:33:52,542 --> 01:33:54,059 People who know me, they know I can't dance. 1963 01:33:54,083 --> 01:33:55,250 They know I can't rap. 1964 01:33:55,333 --> 01:33:56,493 "Yeah, I'm a 5'8" Jewish guy. 1965 01:33:56,542 --> 01:33:58,250 I mean, it's just not happening. 1966 01:34:05,875 --> 01:34:07,333 Months later, they go, 1967 01:34:07,417 --> 01:34:09,166 "You got to put this costume on, 1968 01:34:09,250 --> 01:34:10,875 "and we're gonna reveal it at the end 1969 01:34:10,959 --> 01:34:13,291 that you're the guy in the costume." 1970 01:34:15,125 --> 01:34:16,333 Whoo! 1971 01:34:16,417 --> 01:34:18,625 Nine takes later, an hour and a half later, 1972 01:34:18,709 --> 01:34:20,000 this frickin' thing is done. 1973 01:34:23,125 --> 01:34:25,166 Just in terms of shedding light 1974 01:34:25,250 --> 01:34:27,000 on the corporate culture, right? 1975 01:34:27,083 --> 01:34:28,542 John Kapoor is in the room 1976 01:34:28,625 --> 01:34:31,667 while this video is being played. 1977 01:34:31,750 --> 01:34:33,726 This is two years after they've received a subpoena 1978 01:34:33,750 --> 01:34:36,542 from the government looking into their practices. 1979 01:34:36,625 --> 01:34:38,333 As all this was happening, 1980 01:34:38,417 --> 01:34:41,333 you took a pretty confident approach, 1981 01:34:41,417 --> 01:34:43,375 in terms of... you gave a speech 1982 01:34:43,458 --> 01:34:45,101 at, like, a rep conference or something like that, 1983 01:34:45,125 --> 01:34:47,166 and one of the things you said up at the top was, 1984 01:34:47,250 --> 01:34:48,834 - "Oh, any spies here?" - Mm-hmm. 1985 01:34:48,917 --> 01:34:50,542 You referred to the investigation. 1986 01:34:50,625 --> 01:34:52,041 Mm-hmm. 1987 01:34:52,125 --> 01:34:53,250 You must've had an idea 1988 01:34:53,333 --> 01:34:54,935 that there was something worth investigating. 1989 01:34:54,959 --> 01:34:57,101 But why were you so confident that nothing was gonna happen? 1990 01:34:57,125 --> 01:35:00,500 - I wasn't confident. - I was scared as heck. 1991 01:35:00,583 --> 01:35:02,750 I talked to my dad every night, 1992 01:35:02,834 --> 01:35:05,166 and I'm like, "How do I get out of this freakin' place?" 1993 01:35:05,250 --> 01:35:06,875 He's like, "Just leave." 1994 01:35:06,959 --> 01:35:08,101 And I'm like, "But they did this, 1995 01:35:08,125 --> 01:35:09,434 "and they did that, and they have this, 1996 01:35:09,458 --> 01:35:11,267 "and they told me to do this, and no matter what I do, 1997 01:35:11,291 --> 01:35:12,417 "I'm gonna be in trouble, 1998 01:35:12,500 --> 01:35:13,940 and they promised me all this money," 1999 01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,500 and all these stupid things. 2000 01:35:17,917 --> 01:35:19,810 I mean, from the moment I woke up in the morning, 2001 01:35:19,834 --> 01:35:21,976 my heart would be just pounding through my chest, you know? 2002 01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,041 And the whole drive to the office, 2003 01:35:24,125 --> 01:35:27,417 just pounding, pounding, pounding. 2004 01:35:27,500 --> 01:35:29,250 This is in Chandler, Arizona. 2005 01:35:29,333 --> 01:35:31,083 We moved, like, two or three times. 2006 01:35:31,166 --> 01:35:33,917 This was the final office that I was a part of. 2007 01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:35,917 You know, my kids were in a new school. 2008 01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:37,125 We're in a new place. 2009 01:35:37,208 --> 01:35:38,750 My wife's trying to get adjusted. 2010 01:35:38,834 --> 01:35:40,583 I forced 'em to make this move. 2011 01:35:40,667 --> 01:35:43,542 And the numbers come in while I'm driving to work, 2012 01:35:43,625 --> 01:35:44,542 always. 2013 01:35:44,625 --> 01:35:46,375 Literally, you're just holding your phone. 2014 01:35:46,458 --> 01:35:47,542 Boom. There it shows up. 2015 01:35:47,625 --> 01:35:49,583 213, 330, whatever. 2016 01:35:49,667 --> 01:35:51,750 "Alec, what plan of action do you have in place? 2017 01:35:51,834 --> 01:35:53,583 "Alec, do you have a flight booked? 2018 01:35:53,667 --> 01:35:54,709 "Where are you staying? 2019 01:35:54,792 --> 01:35:57,583 "Why is your flight not booked? Are you a moron? 2020 01:35:57,667 --> 01:35:58,583 "I don't understand. 2021 01:35:58,667 --> 01:36:01,709 The guy's down 18% from last week." 2022 01:36:01,792 --> 01:36:04,083 "Dr. Kapoor, can I speak?" 2023 01:36:04,166 --> 01:36:05,375 "No! 2024 01:36:05,458 --> 01:36:07,750 "Alec, you're VP of sales. Where are the prescriptions? 2025 01:36:07,834 --> 01:36:08,750 "They're not there? 2026 01:36:08,834 --> 01:36:10,250 "Pack your bags, grab your kids, 2027 01:36:10,333 --> 01:36:13,750 grab your wife, catch a bus home." 2028 01:36:13,834 --> 01:36:17,041 People were getting fired left and right. 2029 01:36:17,125 --> 01:36:18,851 I don't know if it's different for anybody else, 2030 01:36:18,875 --> 01:36:19,959 but for me, 2031 01:36:20,041 --> 01:36:23,625 because I entered in knowing, if I don't produce, 2032 01:36:23,709 --> 01:36:26,917 that I'm dispensable at any point regardless 2033 01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:30,166 because I'm the one that didn't have the degree. 2034 01:36:30,250 --> 01:36:33,792 But the culture, definitely 2035 01:36:33,875 --> 01:36:35,750 it wasn't an equal culture. 2036 01:36:35,834 --> 01:36:40,250 I heard about other relationships with girls 2037 01:36:40,333 --> 01:36:43,125 and executives, 2038 01:36:43,208 --> 01:36:47,959 and once they had expired... 2039 01:36:48,041 --> 01:36:51,291 Then you're dispensable, right? 2040 01:36:54,125 --> 01:36:56,041 A lot of pressure. 2041 01:36:56,125 --> 01:36:57,542 A lot of pressure. 2042 01:36:57,625 --> 01:37:00,792 "Do this or this." 2043 01:37:00,875 --> 01:37:04,542 The relationship with Alec didn't help. 2044 01:37:04,625 --> 01:37:07,166 It was very volatile. 2045 01:37:07,250 --> 01:37:11,166 What's very weird is Alec was saying things like, 2046 01:37:11,250 --> 01:37:13,500 "I'm out of time. I'm out of time." 2047 01:37:13,583 --> 01:37:16,875 And I was pressuring him to tell me what is going on, 2048 01:37:16,959 --> 01:37:21,208 and he pulled out a gun out of his glovebox, 2049 01:37:21,291 --> 01:37:25,166 and he was like, "You see? I'm carrying this gun." 2050 01:37:25,250 --> 01:37:27,208 He's like, "You don't know. I'm carrying this. 2051 01:37:27,291 --> 01:37:30,000 I got to protect myself." 2052 01:37:30,083 --> 01:37:33,166 He had obviously been treated poorly 2053 01:37:33,250 --> 01:37:35,500 by the company. 2054 01:37:35,583 --> 01:37:38,834 I think that he became aware 2055 01:37:38,917 --> 01:37:42,917 that he was gonna be the scapegoat in the case, 2056 01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:47,542 that the other defendants were going to blame Burlakoff. 2057 01:37:47,625 --> 01:37:50,875 The company told me nothing, ever. 2058 01:37:50,959 --> 01:37:52,709 I asked a million times, 2059 01:37:52,792 --> 01:37:53,935 "What happened with this doctor?" 2060 01:37:53,959 --> 01:37:55,601 "Why did this doctor get arrested? What..." 2061 01:37:55,625 --> 01:37:57,375 "I heard a patient passed away. What..." 2062 01:37:57,458 --> 01:38:00,709 "Ne... Alex, stay in your lane. What's your lane? Sales." 2063 01:38:00,792 --> 01:38:04,542 I think a lot of people who have been in legal situations 2064 01:38:04,625 --> 01:38:07,875 would understand what I'm talking about. 2065 01:38:07,959 --> 01:38:09,500 It's just no way to live, 2066 01:38:09,583 --> 01:38:12,041 wondering when the other shoe is gonna drop. 2067 01:38:17,834 --> 01:38:19,583 He reached out again. 2068 01:38:19,667 --> 01:38:21,041 We were actually able to 2069 01:38:21,125 --> 01:38:23,792 get him telling us a location. 2070 01:38:23,875 --> 01:38:26,667 We're gonna try to bounce him from 6th over to 4th, 2071 01:38:26,750 --> 01:38:29,417 kind of that roundabout over by Horton Plaza. 2072 01:38:29,500 --> 01:38:31,291 What's the last you've told him? 2073 01:38:31,375 --> 01:38:33,917 - I said I'm coming. - Oh, okay. 2074 01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,417 So we wound up in downtown San Diego. 2075 01:38:36,500 --> 01:38:38,291 We set him in on a vehicle. 2076 01:38:38,375 --> 01:38:39,583 10-4 the ID. 2077 01:38:39,667 --> 01:38:42,750 So, basically, he's saying he spent his money on this, 2078 01:38:42,834 --> 01:38:45,959 that he needs her to be there before 1:30. 2079 01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:51,709 He last relayed his location at 12:48 at 6th and Broadway 2080 01:38:51,792 --> 01:38:55,291 and says that he has no car. 2081 01:38:55,375 --> 01:38:58,250 All right, updated... He's saying he's on his way. 2082 01:38:58,333 --> 01:39:02,333 I asked him where he was, and that was his response. 2083 01:39:04,709 --> 01:39:06,625 Also said, "Just let me know where you parked 2084 01:39:06,709 --> 01:39:08,166 so I can come find you." 2085 01:39:08,250 --> 01:39:09,959 And then, "Oh, on my way." 2086 01:39:28,208 --> 01:39:31,375 - It's torture. 2087 01:39:31,458 --> 01:39:33,291 Just wait. The wait's always torture. 2088 01:39:33,375 --> 01:39:35,917 You think you'd get used to it, but it's just... 2089 01:39:49,917 --> 01:39:51,333 All right, James, start moving in. 2090 01:39:51,417 --> 01:39:53,709 - Now. - Now. 2091 01:39:53,792 --> 01:39:56,959 - Lights. 2092 01:40:07,917 --> 01:40:09,559 - San Diego Police! - Let me see your hands! 2093 01:40:09,583 --> 01:40:10,959 - Get on the ground! - Do it now! 2094 01:40:11,041 --> 01:40:13,000 - Drop to the ground right now! - Don't move! 2095 01:40:13,083 --> 01:40:14,500 Put your hands behind your back! 2096 01:40:14,583 --> 01:40:16,041 - Do not move! - Don't move. 2097 01:40:19,125 --> 01:40:20,500 Say about 5:30 in the morning, 2098 01:40:20,583 --> 01:40:22,017 I was sleeping on the couch, and I woke up, 2099 01:40:22,041 --> 01:40:23,750 and went and said good morning to my wife. 2100 01:40:23,834 --> 01:40:26,041 And I heard 'em hit the door. 2101 01:40:26,125 --> 01:40:27,875 Saying, "DEA." 2102 01:40:27,959 --> 01:40:30,041 They looked like they were fixing to kill somebody. 2103 01:40:30,125 --> 01:40:32,875 And I panicked and put my hands in the air, 2104 01:40:32,959 --> 01:40:36,375 and I watch as they come in with HAZMAT suits. 2105 01:40:38,834 --> 01:40:40,750 Everyone was very, very stressed, 2106 01:40:40,834 --> 01:40:43,208 and it wasn't the people, it was fentanyl. 2107 01:40:43,291 --> 01:40:45,375 It's 50 times more potent than what you would see 2108 01:40:45,458 --> 01:40:47,709 in normal heroin coming in from Mexico. 2109 01:40:47,792 --> 01:40:50,542 We had no idea how spread it would be throughout the house, 2110 01:40:50,625 --> 01:40:53,709 what efforts we would have to take to clean it up 2111 01:40:53,792 --> 01:40:55,375 and dismantle their labs. 2112 01:40:55,458 --> 01:40:57,917 We just had no idea. 2113 01:40:58,000 --> 01:40:59,041 During the search warrant, 2114 01:40:59,125 --> 01:41:01,291 we found several analogues of fentanyl 2115 01:41:01,375 --> 01:41:04,458 that DEA had never seen in the U.S. before. 2116 01:41:04,542 --> 01:41:07,917 I had about 300 grams of pure acrylic fentanyl. 2117 01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:10,208 Sells for about $300 a gram, 2118 01:41:10,291 --> 01:41:13,083 so a lot of money's worth. 2119 01:41:13,166 --> 01:41:14,417 When we hit 'em, 2120 01:41:14,500 --> 01:41:17,041 they were kind of at the peak of their organization. 2121 01:41:17,125 --> 01:41:18,458 They were probably selling 2122 01:41:18,542 --> 01:41:23,250 $25,000 to $30,000 a week in fentanyl. 2123 01:41:23,333 --> 01:41:25,333 I don't know how he managed to do that. 2124 01:41:25,417 --> 01:41:28,417 I never even saw a package get delivered here. 2125 01:41:28,500 --> 01:41:29,583 He never left the couch, 2126 01:41:29,667 --> 01:41:32,583 and we didn't have people coming and going either. 2127 01:41:32,667 --> 01:41:37,000 So whatever he was doing, he was really quiet about it. 2128 01:41:37,083 --> 01:41:38,709 I'd never expected the raid. 2129 01:41:38,792 --> 01:41:41,875 When I saw those officers piling up on my porch 2130 01:41:41,959 --> 01:41:43,083 through my bedroom window, 2131 01:41:43,166 --> 01:41:44,643 I thought it was, like, a home invasion. 2132 01:41:44,667 --> 01:41:46,184 I was trying to call 911 from my phone. 2133 01:41:46,208 --> 01:41:49,834 I didn't know that they were police officers. 2134 01:41:49,917 --> 01:41:50,959 I can still to this day 2135 01:41:51,041 --> 01:41:54,083 hear my wife and my children screaming. 2136 01:41:57,417 --> 01:41:58,583 Looking back at 'em, 2137 01:41:58,667 --> 01:42:02,458 and I said, "Please move me so they can't see me." 2138 01:42:02,542 --> 01:42:04,417 Fear? I didn't have that. 2139 01:42:04,500 --> 01:42:07,750 It was shame, but it wasn't fear. 2140 01:42:07,834 --> 01:42:11,000 If anything, I was relieved. Just take me to jail. 2141 01:42:11,083 --> 01:42:12,917 I was either gonna die from withdrawals, 2142 01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:14,333 or I was getting off of drugs, 2143 01:42:14,417 --> 01:42:16,959 and I didn't care which one it was. 2144 01:42:17,041 --> 01:42:19,083 You have the right to remain silent. 2145 01:42:19,166 --> 01:42:22,583 You can refuse to answer questions at any time. 2146 01:42:22,667 --> 01:42:24,166 Anything you say... 2147 01:42:32,583 --> 01:42:34,291 We found fentanyl on him. 2148 01:42:34,375 --> 01:42:36,875 We went back to the hotel room that they stayed in, 2149 01:42:36,959 --> 01:42:39,667 and we were able to find more drugs there. 2150 01:42:39,750 --> 01:42:45,208 He's an addict himself, so he fuels his use by sales. 2151 01:42:45,291 --> 01:42:46,333 Wow. 2152 01:42:46,417 --> 01:42:48,500 And, you know, at the end of the day, 2153 01:42:48,583 --> 01:42:50,542 everybody's a victim in this thing. 2154 01:42:50,625 --> 01:42:53,083 You know, other than the people that manufacture it 2155 01:42:53,166 --> 01:42:56,500 and, you know, make the big money from it. 2156 01:42:56,583 --> 01:42:57,875 You know, once you get past that, 2157 01:42:57,959 --> 01:43:00,041 once you get into the people that use, 2158 01:43:00,125 --> 01:43:02,208 whether they're dealers or customers 2159 01:43:02,291 --> 01:43:03,500 or whatever they might be, 2160 01:43:03,583 --> 01:43:05,500 everybody becomes a victim. 2161 01:43:05,583 --> 01:43:09,542 So I don't know if it's worse to die and finally be at peace 2162 01:43:09,625 --> 01:43:12,166 and not have to fight these urges every day. 2163 01:43:12,250 --> 01:43:13,542 I don't know if that's the worst 2164 01:43:13,625 --> 01:43:16,166 or if it's these people that live 2165 01:43:16,250 --> 01:43:18,333 that every day now have to be tortured 2166 01:43:18,417 --> 01:43:20,750 with this need to go out and find this stuff. 2167 01:43:20,834 --> 01:43:23,709 You know, it's just wrong. 2168 01:43:23,792 --> 01:43:26,750 I just don't understand how the pharmaceutical companies 2169 01:43:26,834 --> 01:43:28,542 get away with this stuff. 2170 01:43:34,959 --> 01:43:36,709 You did a great job staying in touch. 2171 01:43:36,792 --> 01:43:38,184 - We appreciate you. - You're welcome. 2172 01:43:38,208 --> 01:43:39,709 Have a good evening. 2173 01:43:39,792 --> 01:43:41,709 You too. Bye-bye. 2174 01:44:00,542 --> 01:44:01,917 I'd been working on the case 2175 01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:03,917 over the course of several years. 2176 01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:06,792 And suddenly, Alec Burlakoff left me a message, 2177 01:44:06,875 --> 01:44:10,250 and the message says, "I fired my lawyer, 2178 01:44:10,333 --> 01:44:12,142 and I want to come in, and I want to talk to you." 2179 01:44:12,166 --> 01:44:15,583 This is highly unusual. This has never happened, right? 2180 01:44:15,667 --> 01:44:18,041 You know, white-collar folks are always well-represented, 2181 01:44:18,125 --> 01:44:20,017 and the last think you want to do is go in and talk 2182 01:44:20,041 --> 01:44:22,792 to the federal government without a lawyer. 2183 01:44:22,875 --> 01:44:26,625 I decided to fly from Arizona to Boston, 2184 01:44:26,709 --> 01:44:29,583 and I met with Mr. Yeager, 2185 01:44:29,667 --> 01:44:32,166 and there were a couple other people in the room. 2186 01:44:32,250 --> 01:44:34,792 And I basically proceeded to speak with them 2187 01:44:34,875 --> 01:44:36,625 for about four, five hours 2188 01:44:36,709 --> 01:44:40,125 and basically lied to them. 2189 01:44:40,208 --> 01:44:43,291 What I did was, is I told a lot of truths. 2190 01:44:43,375 --> 01:44:46,041 I just left myself out of it. 2191 01:44:46,125 --> 01:44:48,959 You can say it was based on a true story, 2192 01:44:49,041 --> 01:44:51,125 just left the names out, you know? 2193 01:44:51,208 --> 01:44:52,648 And we just let him talk, you know? 2194 01:44:52,709 --> 01:44:53,834 We had evidence against him. 2195 01:44:53,917 --> 01:44:56,125 We knew that we were gonna prosecute him at some point. 2196 01:44:56,208 --> 01:45:00,083 We had, very early on, texts and emails 2197 01:45:00,166 --> 01:45:02,125 telling people to go bribe doctors, 2198 01:45:02,208 --> 01:45:05,125 that he personally was asking doctors to write prescriptions 2199 01:45:05,208 --> 01:45:08,667 in exchange for money paid by Insys. 2200 01:45:08,750 --> 01:45:10,625 So, when the conversation was over, I told him 2201 01:45:10,709 --> 01:45:13,333 I thought he just spent the last four hours lying to us, 2202 01:45:13,417 --> 01:45:15,393 it was nice meeting him, and he'd be hearing from us. 2203 01:45:15,417 --> 01:45:17,959 - I mean, I just felt... - My whole world, 2204 01:45:18,041 --> 01:45:20,291 I knew it was basically crashing in, 2205 01:45:20,375 --> 01:45:22,959 and it was gonna happen really slowly, 2206 01:45:23,041 --> 01:45:25,291 and it was gonna be very painful. 2207 01:45:25,375 --> 01:45:28,166 You know, several months later 2208 01:45:28,250 --> 01:45:30,125 he was charged and indicted. 2209 01:45:31,750 --> 01:45:36,000 narrator: In October 2017, Burlakoff, Kapoor, 2210 01:45:36,083 --> 01:45:37,542 Sunrise Lee, and four others 2211 01:45:37,625 --> 01:45:40,500 were charged with leading a nationwide conspiracy 2212 01:45:40,583 --> 01:45:43,000 to profit by using fraud and bribes 2213 01:45:43,083 --> 01:45:46,166 to cause the illegal distribution of fentanyl. 2214 01:45:46,250 --> 01:45:48,959 In addition to bribing doctors, the charges included 2215 01:45:49,041 --> 01:45:51,542 defrauding insurance providers. 2216 01:45:58,291 --> 01:46:00,917 - Thank you, sir. 2217 01:46:07,458 --> 01:46:09,166 - Any comment? - No. 2218 01:46:09,250 --> 01:46:11,875 Narrator: The evidence against Alec Burlakoff 2219 01:46:11,959 --> 01:46:13,208 was so overwhelming, 2220 01:46:13,291 --> 01:46:14,500 his attorney asked him 2221 01:46:14,583 --> 01:46:16,583 to consider cooperating with the prosecution 2222 01:46:16,667 --> 01:46:18,250 in exchange for a deal. 2223 01:46:19,792 --> 01:46:21,834 I looked at him, tears started to come to my eyes, 2224 01:46:21,917 --> 01:46:25,041 and I said, "Yes, I will do it. I will plead guilty." 2225 01:46:25,125 --> 01:46:30,667 Because there is no way under any circumstance 2226 01:46:30,750 --> 01:46:33,417 that I would ever sit on the same side 2227 01:46:33,500 --> 01:46:37,709 or at the same table as John Kapoor, ever. 2228 01:46:37,792 --> 01:46:40,959 We all chose him to be our mentor, 2229 01:46:41,041 --> 01:46:43,542 and he was supposed to take us to the promised land 2230 01:46:43,625 --> 01:46:45,291 if we followed him loyally. 2231 01:46:45,375 --> 01:46:47,125 And look where he took us. 2232 01:46:49,667 --> 01:46:51,427 narrator: From the bench, the presiding judge 2233 01:46:51,500 --> 01:46:54,125 called the crimes of Insys "an offense of greed" 2234 01:46:54,208 --> 01:46:57,417 for bribing doctors to prescribe an addictive drug 2235 01:46:57,500 --> 01:47:00,208 without regard for the best interests of their patients 2236 01:47:00,291 --> 01:47:04,917 and sentenced Alec Burlakoff to 26 months in prison. 2237 01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:06,375 Sunrise Lee wasn't able 2238 01:47:06,458 --> 01:47:08,250 to make a deal with prosecutors, 2239 01:47:08,333 --> 01:47:10,750 likely because she couldn't offer them an inside look 2240 01:47:10,834 --> 01:47:13,458 at decisions made in the executive suite. 2241 01:47:13,542 --> 01:47:16,417 She was sentenced to a year in prison. 2242 01:47:16,500 --> 01:47:18,250 They painted this picture of me 2243 01:47:18,333 --> 01:47:21,792 you know, as a dancer, being uneducated, 2244 01:47:21,875 --> 01:47:24,458 and... 2245 01:47:24,542 --> 01:47:28,458 And just the stereotype of it all. 2246 01:47:28,542 --> 01:47:31,125 It stole a lot from me. 2247 01:47:31,208 --> 01:47:34,709 Everything that I've worked hard my entire life for. 2248 01:47:36,709 --> 01:47:39,125 It's the first time ever in my life 2249 01:47:39,208 --> 01:47:41,875 where I haven't been able to persevere. 2250 01:47:54,458 --> 01:47:57,750 narrator: John Kapoor was sentenced to 5 1/2 years. 2251 01:47:57,834 --> 01:48:00,834 In the courtroom, he had listened without expression 2252 01:48:00,917 --> 01:48:04,542 to the mother of a woman who had overdosed on Subsys. 2253 01:48:04,625 --> 01:48:07,000 "The actions of John Kapoor and his conspirators," 2254 01:48:07,083 --> 01:48:10,667 she said, "had been a sentence of hell for our family." 2255 01:48:14,750 --> 01:48:18,500 All the decisions that these people are making at Insys 2256 01:48:18,583 --> 01:48:19,625 and, for that matter, 2257 01:48:19,709 --> 01:48:21,667 every other opioid company in the United States, 2258 01:48:21,750 --> 01:48:25,375 are made in the context of what is very clearly an epidemic. 2259 01:48:25,458 --> 01:48:26,834 You know, in 2012, 2260 01:48:26,917 --> 01:48:31,542 the first year of this criminal conspiracy for Insys, 2261 01:48:31,625 --> 01:48:34,458 I think there were something like 230 million, 240 million 2262 01:48:34,542 --> 01:48:36,500 prescriptions for opioids in the United States. 2263 01:48:36,583 --> 01:48:38,333 That's more than one prescription 2264 01:48:38,417 --> 01:48:39,875 for every adult American. 2265 01:48:41,750 --> 01:48:44,250 When we were doing our reporting, 2266 01:48:44,333 --> 01:48:47,542 "The Washington Post" sued to get this confidential. 2267 01:48:47,625 --> 01:48:49,875 Drug Enforcement Administration database 2268 01:48:49,959 --> 01:48:52,375 that tracked all these prescription pills, 2269 01:48:52,458 --> 01:48:57,375 from the manufacturer to the distributor to the pharmacy. 2270 01:48:57,458 --> 01:48:59,583 It was a virtual road map, 2271 01:48:59,667 --> 01:49:04,208 a blueprint that would show us, give us so many insights 2272 01:49:04,291 --> 01:49:06,417 into understanding the opioid epidemic. 2273 01:49:06,500 --> 01:49:10,375 Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine 2274 01:49:10,458 --> 01:49:13,083 we were talking about the kinds of numbers that came out. 2275 01:49:15,375 --> 01:49:17,542 We got nine years of data 2276 01:49:17,625 --> 01:49:20,750 and between 2006 and 2014, 2277 01:49:20,834 --> 01:49:24,583 100 billion pills had been sent out 2278 01:49:24,667 --> 01:49:27,959 to communities all across this country. 2279 01:49:28,041 --> 01:49:30,417 Narrator: The opioid companies knew every pharmacy 2280 01:49:30,500 --> 01:49:34,250 in every small town where every pill was going. 2281 01:49:34,333 --> 01:49:35,625 From Maine to Mexico, 2282 01:49:35,709 --> 01:49:39,250 they could track the very abuse they were manufacturing. 2283 01:49:39,333 --> 01:49:42,709 The database ranked cities by pills per person. 2284 01:49:42,792 --> 01:49:45,333 In some places, close to one a day 2285 01:49:45,417 --> 01:49:48,709 for every man, woman, and child. 2286 01:49:48,792 --> 01:49:50,291 Did the companies really think 2287 01:49:50,375 --> 01:49:53,125 that all those pills were for back pain? 2288 01:49:54,750 --> 01:49:57,583 This is something that affects everybody. 2289 01:49:57,667 --> 01:49:59,375 It doesn't matter your color, 2290 01:49:59,458 --> 01:50:02,458 your nationality, your gender, 2291 01:50:02,542 --> 01:50:06,125 whether you're economically privileged, 2292 01:50:06,208 --> 01:50:07,500 or poor. 2293 01:50:07,583 --> 01:50:09,333 It doesn't matter. 2294 01:50:09,417 --> 01:50:11,333 As long as the opioid sales go up, 2295 01:50:11,417 --> 01:50:13,125 and opioid deaths will go up 2296 01:50:13,208 --> 01:50:15,625 and opioid treatment admissions are gonna go up. 2297 01:50:15,709 --> 01:50:17,333 That's where we are now. 2298 01:50:17,417 --> 01:50:19,500 And that's where we continue to be. 2299 01:50:19,583 --> 01:50:20,750 Okay, that said 2300 01:50:20,834 --> 01:50:23,041 narrator: After Rannazzisi was forced out of the DEA, 2301 01:50:23,125 --> 01:50:24,667 he took his message on the road 2302 01:50:24,750 --> 01:50:26,583 to those who would listen 2303 01:50:26,667 --> 01:50:29,125 and he began to be a witness for towns and counties 2304 01:50:29,208 --> 01:50:32,458 trying to take action against the big drug companies. 2305 01:50:32,542 --> 01:50:35,792 One by one, they started suing the opioid manufacturers 2306 01:50:35,875 --> 01:50:38,458 and distributors for the damage done. 2307 01:50:44,041 --> 01:50:47,000 With more than 2,500 lawsuits from all over the country, 2308 01:50:47,083 --> 01:50:48,834 a judge in Ohio convened 2309 01:50:48,917 --> 01:50:50,875 a multi-district litigation center 2310 01:50:50,959 --> 01:50:54,375 to consolidate the claims in one courtroom. 2311 01:50:54,458 --> 01:50:58,000 Late in 2019, reporters converged in Cleveland, 2312 01:50:58,083 --> 01:51:00,125 because in the first big case, 2313 01:51:00,208 --> 01:51:03,667 two counties in Ohio were resisting a legal settlement 2314 01:51:03,750 --> 01:51:05,500 with three major drug distributors 2315 01:51:05,583 --> 01:51:08,375 for their role in fueling the opioid crisis. 2316 01:51:10,250 --> 01:51:12,458 It seemed that there might finally be a trial, 2317 01:51:12,542 --> 01:51:14,166 where the public would see evidence 2318 01:51:14,250 --> 01:51:18,041 of the corporate negligence that had cost so many lives. 2319 01:51:18,125 --> 01:51:19,875 Then at the last minute, 2320 01:51:19,959 --> 01:51:21,875 the companies took out their checkbooks 2321 01:51:21,959 --> 01:51:24,792 and paid to keep the evidence hidden. 2322 01:51:24,875 --> 01:51:27,583 A settlement has been reached for our two counties 2323 01:51:27,667 --> 01:51:29,667 with the... 2324 01:51:29,750 --> 01:51:33,166 The three big defendants. 2325 01:51:33,250 --> 01:51:37,375 The settlement does not bring things to an end. 2326 01:51:37,458 --> 01:51:38,625 It is, though, 2327 01:51:38,709 --> 01:51:41,041 a very good development for the people of our counties. 2328 01:51:41,125 --> 01:51:42,601 What was the sticking point last night? 2329 01:51:42,625 --> 01:51:45,083 Why did it take till midnight, 1:00 a.m.? 2330 01:51:45,166 --> 01:51:46,417 Money. 2331 01:51:46,500 --> 01:51:48,709 They wanted to pay less. I wanted them to play more. 2332 01:51:50,458 --> 01:51:52,709 Is there an admission of wrongdoing on behalf... 2333 01:51:52,792 --> 01:51:54,875 No, but, you know, common sense tells me 2334 01:51:54,959 --> 01:51:58,667 when they paid over $323 million 2335 01:51:58,750 --> 01:52:00,041 to these two counties, 2336 01:52:00,125 --> 01:52:01,885 one might say that's a pretty good admission. 2337 01:52:03,166 --> 01:52:04,375 Narrator: In cases like these, 2338 01:52:04,458 --> 01:52:06,250 lawyers like to represent that money paid 2339 01:52:06,333 --> 01:52:10,250 is some kind of justice, and in a sense, it is. 2340 01:52:10,333 --> 01:52:12,750 After all, the cost of addiction is high, 2341 01:52:12,834 --> 01:52:15,542 and the price of treatment centers and first responders 2342 01:52:15,625 --> 01:52:19,083 should be borne by the companies responsible. 2343 01:52:19,166 --> 01:52:21,250 But what of the lives lost? 2344 01:52:21,333 --> 01:52:24,375 How do you put a value on them? 2345 01:52:28,125 --> 01:52:29,750 During the COVID pandemic, 2346 01:52:29,834 --> 01:52:33,208 opioid addiction and overdoses increased. 2347 01:52:33,291 --> 01:52:36,417 It was not surprising, then, that in the fall of 2020, 2348 01:52:36,500 --> 01:52:38,250 the families of those who had died 2349 01:52:38,333 --> 01:52:41,083 were stirred by rumors that the federal government 2350 01:52:41,166 --> 01:52:44,583 might bring new criminal charges against the Sacklers, 2351 01:52:44,667 --> 01:52:46,458 the family that had profited so much 2352 01:52:46,542 --> 01:52:49,083 during the opioid crisis and the company 2353 01:52:49,166 --> 01:52:51,917 that had started it all, Purdue Pharma. 2354 01:52:53,917 --> 01:52:55,083 This morning, 2355 01:52:55,166 --> 01:52:57,792 the Department of Justice is announcing a resolution 2356 01:52:57,875 --> 01:53:00,458 which will redress past wrongs 2357 01:53:00,542 --> 01:53:03,875 and will also provide extraordinary new resources 2358 01:53:03,959 --> 01:53:07,625 for the treatment and care of those affected by opioids... 2359 01:53:07,709 --> 01:53:10,375 Narrator: Late in 2020, the Trump administration rushed 2360 01:53:10,458 --> 01:53:13,291 to make an announcement for the presidential election. 2361 01:53:13,375 --> 01:53:16,458 Pleading guilty to three felony counts 2362 01:53:16,542 --> 01:53:20,959 narrator: The Sackler family would pay a $225 million fine. 2363 01:53:21,041 --> 01:53:24,291 Purdue Pharma would plead guilty to kickbacks and fraud 2364 01:53:24,375 --> 01:53:29,166 and promised to pay fines totaling more than $8 billion. 2365 01:53:29,250 --> 01:53:33,625 That number immediately gets repeated in headlines 2366 01:53:33,709 --> 01:53:34,792 all across the country. 2367 01:53:34,875 --> 01:53:36,667 The news goes out on the wires. 2368 01:53:36,750 --> 01:53:40,667 You think, "My God. $8 billion. That's massive." 2369 01:53:40,750 --> 01:53:43,542 But Purdue is in bankruptcy 2370 01:53:43,625 --> 01:53:45,625 and only has about a billion dollars, 2371 01:53:45,709 --> 01:53:47,000 which a whole bunch of creditors 2372 01:53:47,083 --> 01:53:48,834 are already fighting over. 2373 01:53:48,917 --> 01:53:52,166 That money is never going to get paid by the company 2374 01:53:52,250 --> 01:53:53,125 or anybody else. 2375 01:53:53,208 --> 01:53:55,000 It's a number, in some ways, I think, 2376 01:53:55,083 --> 01:53:59,792 that's been kind of designed to make headlines. 2377 01:54:01,583 --> 01:54:04,458 narrator: Behind the headlines was an intricate plot. 2378 01:54:04,542 --> 01:54:09,000 In 2019, Purdue had declared Chapter 11 bankruptcy, 2379 01:54:09,083 --> 01:54:10,959 which allowed it to continue to operate 2380 01:54:11,041 --> 01:54:14,208 while paying fines to those seeking damages. 2381 01:54:14,291 --> 01:54:16,417 That led to a cruel irony. 2382 01:54:16,500 --> 01:54:19,208 The only way the company could pay damages 2383 01:54:19,291 --> 01:54:24,083 was to increase its sales of drugs, including OxyContin. 2384 01:54:24,166 --> 01:54:26,875 To pay for the damage done by opioids, 2385 01:54:26,959 --> 01:54:29,875 Purdue Pharma would sell more opioids. 2386 01:54:34,959 --> 01:54:38,041 - Shame on Purdue! - All: Shame on Purdue! 2387 01:54:38,125 --> 01:54:39,750 Dead from greed! 2388 01:54:39,834 --> 01:54:42,083 Narrator: While the company was charged with crimes, 2389 01:54:42,166 --> 01:54:45,375 none of Purdue's executives or owners were indicted, 2390 01:54:45,458 --> 01:54:46,458 and the Sacklers 2391 01:54:46,542 --> 01:54:48,709 refused to take any personal responsibility. 2392 01:54:48,792 --> 01:54:50,875 Sacklers lie! All: People die! 2393 01:54:50,959 --> 01:54:53,458 Sacklers lie! All: People die! 2394 01:54:53,542 --> 01:54:56,291 Narrator: That raised questions. 2395 01:54:56,375 --> 01:54:57,709 Starting in 2008, 2396 01:54:57,792 --> 01:55:00,792 just after Purdue pled guilty to a previous felony, 2397 01:55:00,875 --> 01:55:03,834 the Sacklers started taking more than $10 billion 2398 01:55:03,917 --> 01:55:05,083 out of the company 2399 01:55:05,166 --> 01:55:07,250 in complicated overseas transactions 2400 01:55:07,333 --> 01:55:11,917 and vaulted vast sums in their accounts. 2401 01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:16,250 Of the $10 billion, roughly half went to taxes, 2402 01:55:16,333 --> 01:55:19,375 so that money, we do not have. 2403 01:55:19,458 --> 01:55:21,750 It was paid in taxes. 2404 01:55:21,834 --> 01:55:25,125 The family and the board acted legally and ethically. 2405 01:55:29,375 --> 01:55:34,250 So I think that's not the right way to look at this. 2406 01:55:34,333 --> 01:55:37,542 The resolution here is very significant. 2407 01:55:37,625 --> 01:55:42,458 It involves, for the company, three felony guilty pleas. 2408 01:55:42,542 --> 01:55:44,917 For both the company and the shareholders, 2409 01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:47,500 it involves very sizable amounts of money. 2410 01:55:52,041 --> 01:55:53,125 If you talk to people 2411 01:55:53,208 --> 01:55:55,834 whose lives have been touched by this, 2412 01:55:55,917 --> 01:55:58,959 a lot of them will say, "It's not about the money. 2413 01:55:59,041 --> 01:56:01,208 "You could never generate enough money 2414 01:56:01,291 --> 01:56:05,625 "to make up for the human cost. 2415 01:56:05,709 --> 01:56:07,792 That can never happen." 2416 01:56:07,875 --> 01:56:10,625 What does matter to a lot of these people is truth. 2417 01:56:20,417 --> 01:56:23,208 And, finally, I'm gonna leave you with this. 2418 01:56:23,291 --> 01:56:28,500 We've talked about truths, talked about fiction, 2419 01:56:28,583 --> 01:56:30,750 and now we're gonna talk about reality. 2420 01:56:32,750 --> 01:56:34,000 Turn that up? 2421 01:56:34,083 --> 01:56:36,291 - I need an ambulance. - My son's not breathing. 2422 01:56:36,375 --> 01:56:38,333 What's the address? 10731? 2423 01:56:38,417 --> 01:56:40,166 31, yes. Hurry. 2424 01:56:40,250 --> 01:56:44,500 - He's blue? - He's... white. 2425 01:56:44,583 --> 01:56:45,834 How old is he? 2426 01:56:45,917 --> 01:56:48,166 Oh, God, he's dead! 2427 01:56:48,250 --> 01:56:50,417 Ma'am, I need you to calm down. How old is he? 2428 01:56:50,500 --> 01:56:53,834 - Oh, he's dead! - Ma'am? 2429 01:56:53,917 --> 01:56:55,792 Ma'am, I need you to calm down. 2430 01:56:55,875 --> 01:56:56,875 How old is he? 2431 01:57:02,750 --> 01:57:05,709 - Can you pick up on that? 2432 01:57:05,792 --> 01:57:07,792 - Stop, please. 2433 01:57:07,875 --> 01:57:11,834 - How old is he? 2434 01:57:55,709 --> 01:57:57,269 I know I could've fought my case more, 2435 01:57:57,333 --> 01:57:59,417 but I was done fighting. 2436 01:57:59,500 --> 01:58:02,083 I've been sentenced to 135 months in federal prison 2437 01:58:02,166 --> 01:58:05,417 for conspiracy to possess furanyl fentanyl 2438 01:58:05,500 --> 01:58:07,458 and fentanyl with intent to distribute. 2439 01:58:07,542 --> 01:58:09,625 I am currently in Federal Correction Institute 2440 01:58:09,709 --> 01:58:11,583 at Big Springs, Texas. 2441 01:58:11,667 --> 01:58:14,917 It's a low-security prison. 2442 01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:16,917 It could be worse. 2443 01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:18,583 I could be dead. 2444 01:58:18,667 --> 01:58:19,667 You know what I mean? 2445 01:58:19,750 --> 01:58:20,625 I'm close to home, 2446 01:58:20,709 --> 01:58:23,083 so my wife can come visit me. 2447 01:58:23,166 --> 01:58:26,250 I get to visit my kids every weekend. 2448 01:58:26,333 --> 01:58:27,917 This saved my life. 2449 01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:30,333 It gives me an opportunity for a second act. 2450 01:58:30,417 --> 01:58:32,458 I screwed up the first one. 2451 01:58:32,542 --> 01:58:34,000 I can't ever take it back, 2452 01:58:34,083 --> 01:58:35,333 but I get an act two 2453 01:58:35,417 --> 01:58:37,625 where maybe I can build upon the past 2454 01:58:37,709 --> 01:58:38,789 and use my past experiences 2455 01:58:38,834 --> 01:58:40,291 to make a better life 2456 01:58:40,375 --> 01:58:42,291 for my wife and my kids 2457 01:58:42,375 --> 01:58:43,792 and possibly other people 2458 01:58:43,875 --> 01:58:44,792 that would go down 2459 01:58:44,875 --> 01:58:46,500 the same stupid road I went down. 2460 01:58:46,583 --> 01:58:50,709 So yeah, I mean 2461 01:58:50,792 --> 01:58:52,333 act two. 192188

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