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Amanda, so, your journey
has been something unique,
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but before we dive into
kind of all the deep talk,
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I think there's a lot of people
in here who know you, clearly.
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I mean, you're the queen
of the house,
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and we love you dearly.
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Amanda's beautiful,
and she's vivacious.
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Everybody loved her.
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Why don't you
kind of give us a little
bit of background
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on how you came
to know God and et cetera?
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Sure. Um, I'm...
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Or not. You don't have to.
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You just wanted
to be her friend.
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My name's Amanda.
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Uh, everybody here
calls me Amanda C. Riley.
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She was an honest,
transparent, kind soul.
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I grew up a really
good childhood.
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I had a great--
I have a great life.
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She had
a perfect little family.
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Corey was
so enamored with her.
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When we got married,
we knew that
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we definitely wanted
to raise our kids in church.
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They were
the poster family
for the church.
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But overnight,
everything changed.
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When I got
the official diagnosis,
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it blindsided me.
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We felt
so bad for her.
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She was suffering in such
a complicated and deep way.
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I cannot feel my legs.
I can't move my feet.
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I wake up with
a blinding migraine every day.
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I said,
"Amanda, whatever I can do
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to support you,
you let me know."
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She started a blog.
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It blew up pretty quickly.
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Amanda was the symbol
of hope in the church.
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She was worshipped.
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Everything about being sick
brought me closer to God
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instead of pushing me away.
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She has celebrities
tweeting to her.
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{\an8} People donated
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thousands and thousands
of dollars.
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We thought
she was God's gift.
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Can we give her a hand, y'all?
Come on.
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But little things
here and there,
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something didn't seem
right to me.
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All the stories she told
didn't add up
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and didn't make sense.
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I told them,
I will find the truth.
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I was shocked.
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We were rooting for her.
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Next thing you know,
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there's all these SUVs
flying past us.
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And it was
all caught on camera.
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SWAT members
surrounded the property.
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It's insane.
It's absolutely insane.
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Everyone
was talking about it.
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Who would do
something like this?
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It was all over TikTok.
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{\an8}I need more.
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Who's the real Amanda?
I can't answer that.
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She's legit.
She's telling the truth, right?
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Everything happens for a reason,
and it's all in God's timing.
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She's a great storyteller.
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There's so much more
to the story.
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Don't ignore Jesus,
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because He is always there,
and it would be unfortunate
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if He brought you your miracle
and you weren't watching.
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The area that
Amanda's story took place
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{\an8}is around San Francisco Bay.
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{\an8}So you've got Palo Alto
and San Jose
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surrounded by the rolling hills
of Silicon Valley,
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which has created
a lot of affluence.
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So the area is extremely rich.
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And this is where
Amanda C. Riley's
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{\an8}unbelievable tale unfolds.
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I'm just gonna have you
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introduce yourself to me.
What's your name?
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Um, hi, my name is Amanda Riley.
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- That was it?
Cut. Done.
- I did it! Yes.
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Amanda grew up
in California
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and met a man named Corey,
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who had a daughter called Jessa
from a previous relationship.
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I met Amanda
when her stepdaughter was
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in my daughter's class.
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They were
new to the school,
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{\an8}and my daughter immediately
bonded with her,
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{\an8}and they became friends.
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And we became friends
with Corey and Amanda.
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I was always a strong person.
I was always a go-getter.
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I've always been a doer.
I've always been a happy person.
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I've always been
kind of like glass half full.
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Amanda was probably twenty-four,
twenty-five.
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She was younger than
the moms in the class.
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And she was very excited about
being a stepmother to Jessa.
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Corey seemed very
devoted to Amanda.
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And we introduced Corey
and Amanda to other families
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because they were new.
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It was really fun.
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Amanda would say,
"You look just like my mother."
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"You are my
doppelganger mother."
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That was really nice.
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Lisa found Amanda really sweet.
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They got on really well.
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And Corey had a great
relationship with Steve.
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And they were an older couple,
so I think they felt
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that Corey and Amanda
were this younger couple
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and they were kind of vibrant.
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And it was a really nice
addition to their lives.
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They were so happy
as a little family of three.
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She and Corey
had actually gotten married
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by the Justice of the Peace,
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and they were going
to have a big wedding
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{\an8}in the Central Coast,
on a cliff.
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She asked if my daughter
would be a flower girl.
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And I was invited to be
part of the wedding
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as a groomsman.
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It was a really
lovely wedding.
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The day was beautiful.
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They were this happy,
perfect little family.
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Amanda's beautiful,
and she's vivacious.
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{\an8}I honestly was so enraptured
with Amanda
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{\an8}that I offered to help
photograph her wedding.
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I worked with
Amanda's mom, Peggy.
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Peggy had told me
a bit about Amanda,
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and she's like,
"You'll love Amanda."
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"She's totally someone
you would be friends with."
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"You're just going
to love each other."
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And I felt that way.
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{\an8} Amanda was
already a stepmom,
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{\an8}and was so thrilled
when she found out
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{\an8}she was going to have
a baby of her own.
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I grew closer to Amanda.
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when she was pregnant.
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I photographed her
for her maternity shoot.
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I just felt
an affinity for Amanda.
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And so whenever we,
you know, connected,
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it was always just very deep.
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It wasn't too long
after the baby was born
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that Amanda and Corey
became a big part
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of the Family Community Church.
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It's a church that has
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close to five thousand
congregants.
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{\an8}They either come in person
or watch online.
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It's classified
as a megachurch,
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like Hillsong
or Lakewood Church in Houston.
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Thousands
and thousands of people
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attend these services
that are more like events.
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They have preachers on stage,
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guest speakers,
music, and guitars.
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{\an8}It was like going to a concert,
but for the Lord.
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The first time I went to FCC,
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I walked in there
as an atheist.
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When the doors open,
there was fog.
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{\an8}On the stage,
there was this band.
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{\an8}It was dim.
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{\an8}It was exciting.
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People were jumping up and down.
Everybody had their hands up,
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praising something,
loving each other,
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just generally being happy.
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It was almost as love was
raining down like confetti.
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People were like, "Hi, welcome."
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Amanda became
very popular at FCC.
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She was part of lots
of different groups,
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and she would promote them
on the church's social media.
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{\an8}Are you a mom? Do you want to
get connected with other moms?
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{\an8}If you're married,
engaged, dating,
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come out to our Marriage Oneness
class July 16th at 7:00 p.m.
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In 2012, Amanda was
a mother and a stepmother.
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She was a wife.
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She was a Christian,
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and became very active
in her community,
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very charming, very well-liked.
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And then all of a sudden,
she was diagnosed with cancer.
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I said,
"Amanda has cancer?"
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{\an8}I was, you know,
worried for them.
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{\an8}You know,
they had a little baby,
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and they just started
their life together.
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And I couldn't believe it.
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It literally
is my worst nightmare.
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This is a friend of mine
and a new mother
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who was going through,
like, the unimaginable.
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I remember just
feeling like gutted.
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This came on suddenly,
it came on hard.
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A lot of people felt sorry
for her and wanted to help.
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So Amanda started a blog.
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And she headlined it
very simply,
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"My Story, Our Journey."
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I have
Hodgkin's Lymphoma,
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and it's been quite the journey
to figure it out.
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A two-year journey,
to be exact.
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She wanted the blog
to be a place
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where family and friends
could be updated.
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Amanda wanted
to be inspirational,
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and she wanted to help others.
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{\an8}A lot of people
started reading her blog.
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{\an8}I mean,
it blew up pretty quickly.
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There were so many posts,
long posts with pictures...
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experiences...
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She became extremely popular.
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The support
has been amazingly encouraging,
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overwhelming, and wonderful!
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At some point,
I started reading her blog.
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And she's posting pictures.
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And I just was surprised.
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Seeing all the attention
that she's getting for it...
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there was just
something inside of me
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just saying, "This isn't right."
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If you think
about social media
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and the way that we look
at how many likes we get,
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and we post, and the way
we live in our world now...
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{\an8}For Amanda,
the blog was something
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{\an8}that made her feel good.
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The prayers
and well wishes are amazing.
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So thank you all!
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I don't remember how
I first started following it,
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{\an8}but I was reading it
whenever I could.
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{\an8}My mom would read it as well.
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{\an8}She was like, "Hey,
there's a new blog up,"
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and get on and look at the blog
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and follow what was going on.
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I ended up having to get
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the neupogen shots,
like the doctor predicted.
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I thought, "Well, wow," like,
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"She's really
putting herself out there."
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My bones and joints
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are hurting pretty bad.
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I think my great-grandma
that is pushing 100
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could run circles around me.
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Her thing was always,
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"I'm trying to make awareness."
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"I wanna make sure
that people understand
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what this disease is like."
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I'm not shiny bald yet,
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but my hair
isn't growing anymore,
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and it breaks at the roots
when I wash it.
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"And if by me telling my story
helps other people,
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then great, I don't mind
putting myself out there."
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Penny interview.
Take one.
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I have been a longtime
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American Cancer Society
volunteer.
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{\an8}It's a personal battle for me.
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I am a cancer survivor.
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{\an8}And so, I followed Amanda's blog
pretty carefully.
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There was hope.
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Twelve months of testing,
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eight months of chemotherapy,
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and today is my day of bliss.
We won!
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She told us she thought
she'd beat it.
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As of Friday,
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I have been officially labeled
as being in soft remission.
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We were rooting for her,
and we wanted her to be okay.
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You've got
this online community.
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And you've got the American
Cancer Society as well.
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But then you've also got
the church community.
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{\an8} My father-in-law
is the pastor
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{\an8}of Family Community Church.
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Amanda
got to know our family,
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and she and Cory
became good friends with us.
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I was aware of the blog.
I didn't follow it necessarily,
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largely because I didn't need
the blog
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to know how she was doing.
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We are so lucky and blessed.
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{\an8}Truly, with our whole hearts,
thank you.
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Amanda was kind of like
a celebrity at FCC.
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She was good
at telling her story.
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{\an8}I never really had a pity party
but it was just kind of like,
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{\an8}"Oh, well,
there's the end of my story,"
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{\an8}you know, kinda thing. Um...
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{\an8}And God's up there going,
"Nope..."
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{\an8}...like,
"Your story's about to start."
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She would start giving
testimony from the stage.
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She could sit there
in front of a room
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of over a thousand people,
give her testimony.
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I... I was so sick.
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I was hospitalized for weeks
at a time.
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I couldn't get out of bed.
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And she would captivate us
every time.
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It got to the point where I was,
uh, kind of talking about it,
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and we were praying about it,
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and we weren't really sure
what to do.
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When I came into FCC,
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{\an8}she was very well-known
as the girl who had cancer.
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...that we're angry with God.
We try to hide from God.
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Don't stop talking to Him.
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If you're angry with Him,
tell Him...
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But she was so positive.
She had charisma.
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If you're
going through something,
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share it with Him.
Give it to Him.
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Don't ignore Jesus
because He is always there.
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And it would be unfortunate
if he brought you your miracle
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and you weren't watching.
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{\an8}The miracle in itself
that she could be so terminal
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{\an8}and so alive at the same time...
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led me to believe
that she was anointed.
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We were just...
"Wow, this is amazing."
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She emulated
this hope, this faith,
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this, "I believe."
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"Look at what God has done
to this woman."
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And "Even though she's fighting,
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like, look how
inspiring she is."
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I'll never forget
the doctor's words.
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He said, um...
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"Your cancer's back,
and you're pregnant."
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When I went down to do
her second maternity shoot,
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I remember talking to her
and she's like,
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{\an8}"I know,
it's such a miracle baby."
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{\an8}She said, "I had an IUD
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{\an8}because I was
going through treatment
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and I got pregnant with the IUD
while doing treatment."
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{\an8}After all this chemo
and radiation she had,
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{\an8}she's pregnant
with the second one.
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I was the babysitter
for Amanda and Cory's first one.
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I said, "Amanda,
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what's happening now
with you being pregnant?"
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"Oh, my doctor says I could stop
the chemo and radiation
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or anything that is
for my cancer
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till the baby's born.
And then we could start again."
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I said,
"Amanda, this is your life."
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"You have another child
to think about."
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"This one is not here yet."
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She says, "No.
They said it's gonna be safe,
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so I'm gonna do that."
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She told everyone that
she was having another baby.
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We met
with a panel of doctors
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that specialize
in pregnancy during cancer
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and learned
that this was very doable,
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safe, and possible.
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It's like the best news ever.
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She's posting
about this miracle pregnancy
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and sharing pictures
of her growing belly.
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And then she's posting
that she's at stage four again.
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Five hospital stays
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and 32 doctor's appointments
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and lab visits
in January alone.
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And forgive us our trespasses.
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The first time I prayed,
oh, my goodness.
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I was only two seats down
from her
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before she stood up,
and I heard her say,
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"Feeling dizzy.
I need... I need..."
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"I need to get some water."
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So, she exited the church
and on the way back,
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fainted while simultaneously
urinating on herself.
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I just remember Pastor Chase
saying, like,
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"Oh, Amanda passed out."
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"Everyone," like,
"lay your hands out."
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Like, "Let's start
praying for her."
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Everybody ran up to her.
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The core leadership
ran up to her.
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They put their hands over her.
Everybody did.
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They put their hands
in the circle and said,
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"Heal this woman. Heal her.
Oh, God, heal her."
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That was the first time
I got down on my knees...
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clasped my hands together...
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and said, "Dear God,
please save this woman."
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"She doesn't deserve this."
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{\an8}In April 2014,
Amanda's second son was born,
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{\an8}and it was a healthy baby boy.
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And of course,
they shared the wonderful news.
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{\an8}We just thought Cory was
such a dedicated husband
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{\an8}and such a dedicated father.
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The husband
of all husbands
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that I truly could not
get through this without.
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When I picture Cory,
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{\an8}I picture him standing
behind Amanda.
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And I would hear the stories
about him being her hero.
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My impression was that
he was kind of her rock. And...
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I so admired him
for what he was doing for her.
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{\an8}Amanda had had to quit jobs
due to her medical condition.
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{\an8}And I knew
that money was really tight
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with everything
they were going through.
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And I just continued
to ask Amanda, like,
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"What can I do? What can I do?
What can I do?"
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Because when it's your health
and it's life or death,
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like, nothing should be
out of bounds because of cost.
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I can remember
getting emails from Peggy.
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She was the one that
told me about the website.
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And I donated 500 dollars.
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And I can remember
Amanda reaching out to me,
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so emotional, and saying, like,
"Rebecca, you have no idea
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how impactful this was."
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And I know that she gave me
a lot of shout-outs in her blog.
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We literally
could not be where we are
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in this fight without you
being a part of this.
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Your family alone
have put years on my life.
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From that time on, I started
donating 500 dollars a month.
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Amanda's website
was a place
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where people could donate.
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{\an8}The church community was
also very eager to help Amanda.
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One time,
during a Sunday service,
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{\an8}the pastor brought Amanda
and Cory up on stage.
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There was that
infamous fog machine...
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making this a very beautiful,
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angelic, mystical,
special experience.
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That pastor felt led
in that moment,
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during that service
to do a love offering.
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A church this size,
if each family gives a dollar,
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it can be significant enough
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to be a huge blessing
to the Riley family.
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People slowly
walked up to the stage.
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Praying, praising the Lord.
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They threw the money
at her feet.
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00:23:01,798 --> 00:23:05,426
There was almost no hesitation.
People just got up and gave.
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People were giving 20s,
flooding towards the stage.
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There was a tremendous amount
of money left on the stage.
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I mean, it was just for them.
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The church had never done
anything like that.
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And then afterwards,
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Amanda was thanking everyone
for their generosity.
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{\an8}So truly blessed!
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{\an8}Pastor asked to share my story,
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{\an8}then followed it
by taking a dollar offering,
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{\an8}and all the money
is being donated to
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{\an8}www.supportamanda.com.
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{\an8}I was very dedicated
into helping her. Um...
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{\an8}I remember going to the bank
and taking a picture
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and posting on Facebook
and being like,
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"This one's for you, Amanda."
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00:24:04,610 --> 00:24:05,903
I was actively...
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promoting her, basically.
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'Cause a lot of people
were asking me about her.
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{\an8}They started reading her blog.
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{\an8} #TeamAmanda
has been busy as ever.
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{\an8}On June 24th, if you eat at
any of four Bay Area Chili's,
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{\an8}20% of your bill
will be donated to our family.
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{\an8}One day,
I get an email out of the blue.
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It said there's this fundraiser
at Chili's.
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And 20% of the proceeds
of all four Chili's restaurants
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are going to go to Amanda Riley.
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I was blown away.
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We had ended
our relationship
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with Cory and Amanda.
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And down the road,
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{\an8}Lisa was coming across
a number of different things
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{\an8}that were coming up
on social media
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{\an8}and it was really bothering her.
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The year she told me
about the cancer was 2010.
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Well, now she's been diagnosed
for the very first time in 2012.
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And I was so, so sick.
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00:25:40,373 --> 00:25:45,836
Lisa knew that something just
wasn't quite right about Amanda.
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00:25:53,052 --> 00:25:55,638
{\an8}
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We decided to have
a birthday party for Lisa.
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Amanda and Cory had come.
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{\an8}They had shared earlier
that they weren't sure
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{\an8}if they were going to come.
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Later on in the evening,
Cory got this kind of
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look on his face.
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00:26:25,334 --> 00:26:27,670
And he took the opportunity
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to share that Amanda had
stage four cancer.
448
00:26:35,136 --> 00:26:37,346
And the prognosis
didn't look good.
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They gave her only
a very little amount of time.
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00:26:42,768 --> 00:26:45,812
Steve told me
that Amanda was stage four
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and she had six
to 12 months to live.
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{\an8}And I was really devastated
getting this news.
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I just felt so bad.
They had just gotten married.
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I really cried a lot about that.
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00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,040
My first wife
passed away
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after an eight-year battle
with breast cancer.
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00:27:08,961 --> 00:27:10,629
I knew what that looked like.
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We made ourselves
available to help
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with Amanda's stepdaughter.
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00:27:23,976 --> 00:27:27,188
Amanda said, "Can you
pick Jessa up for school?"
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"Can you watch her?"
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And of course I did.
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00:27:34,362 --> 00:27:39,240
And then I started thinking,
"She's stage four."
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"She's dying.
Where are her parents?"
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"How come they're
not coming around?"
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"I thought they were close."
467
00:27:45,539 --> 00:27:47,415
And I actually asked her
at one point,
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you know,
"Where are your parents?"
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"You're so sick,
and where are they?"
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And she said,
"Oh, they're just really busy."
471
00:28:00,179 --> 00:28:02,598
And then Amanda said
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that she needed a blood test
to save her life...
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and wanted to know
if I could loan her the money
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for the blood test.
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00:28:15,778 --> 00:28:17,530
It felt awkward.
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But I gave her the money.
477
00:28:26,997 --> 00:28:28,790
You want
to support people
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that are
in a difficult situation.
479
00:28:30,668 --> 00:28:33,796
But it's also important
to be cautious
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when someone is pulling
on our heartstrings
481
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for some sort of support.
482
00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:51,063
One day, Amanda said
she was in the hospital.
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00:28:52,064 --> 00:28:53,690
So I picked Jessa up
from school
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to come swimming at our home.
485
00:29:00,072 --> 00:29:03,284
And Amanda arrived
after the hospital.
486
00:29:05,411 --> 00:29:08,122
She came, and she got
in the swimming pool.
487
00:29:12,918 --> 00:29:14,587
She was having a good time.
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00:29:15,671 --> 00:29:18,673
And she kinda
turned to the side,
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00:29:18,674 --> 00:29:23,929
and she had a very small, round
Band-Aid behind her ear.
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00:29:25,431 --> 00:29:28,558
So I asked her why she had
the Band-Aid behind her ear.
491
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:29,810
I was curious.
492
00:29:33,147 --> 00:29:36,442
And that's when she told me
that she had just had...
493
00:29:37,401 --> 00:29:40,446
fluid drained off her brain
in the hospital.
494
00:29:42,448 --> 00:29:44,866
So she was coming
from the hospital,
495
00:29:44,867 --> 00:29:47,536
and she swam underwater
496
00:29:48,162 --> 00:29:50,664
after having fluid
drained off her brain.
497
00:29:52,875 --> 00:29:55,043
I knew that wasn't right,
498
00:29:55,044 --> 00:29:57,003
and I start going
through my mind
499
00:29:57,004 --> 00:30:00,633
and thinking about
all the stories she told me.
500
00:30:07,473 --> 00:30:09,892
There were so many things
in my mind.
501
00:30:12,853 --> 00:30:16,357
She had this long story about
how she bought this house.
502
00:30:17,691 --> 00:30:19,735
And it turned out,
the house was a rental.
503
00:30:23,489 --> 00:30:26,407
She said there was gonna be
a bridal magazine
504
00:30:26,408 --> 00:30:27,701
covering her wedding.
505
00:30:30,037 --> 00:30:31,496
And by the way, she also claims
506
00:30:31,497 --> 00:30:35,124
that she's working on
a PhD in clinical psychology
507
00:30:35,125 --> 00:30:36,669
at Stanford.
508
00:30:40,339 --> 00:30:42,508
So many stories
that didn't make sense,
509
00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:48,597
that I just... I didn't buy,
but I just brushed off,
510
00:30:48,847 --> 00:30:50,599
just ignored.
511
00:30:53,352 --> 00:30:55,062
But now, I know.
512
00:30:56,021 --> 00:30:58,857
Now, I know that she's a liar.
513
00:31:10,452 --> 00:31:12,746
She swam underwater,
514
00:31:13,414 --> 00:31:16,208
{\an8}after having fluid drained off
of her brain.
515
00:31:16,625 --> 00:31:19,253
I knew that wasn't right.
516
00:31:21,088 --> 00:31:24,133
I wanted Cory and Amanda
out of our lives.
517
00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:34,184
I stopped answering
her phone calls, and...
518
00:31:34,935 --> 00:31:36,770
she started calling my niece.
519
00:31:38,814 --> 00:31:40,982
She told my niece
that she was pregnant
520
00:31:40,983 --> 00:31:43,943
and that she was going to ask
me and Steve
521
00:31:43,944 --> 00:31:46,113
to be the godparents
of the baby.
522
00:31:56,790 --> 00:31:58,250
She kept calling.
523
00:31:58,876 --> 00:32:00,001
Finally, I realized
524
00:32:00,002 --> 00:32:02,463
I was gonna have to talk to her
at some point.
525
00:32:02,671 --> 00:32:05,674
So I answered the phone.
526
00:32:07,301 --> 00:32:09,011
And she said, "I'm pregnant."
527
00:32:10,638 --> 00:32:13,807
And I said,
"I thought you were dying."
528
00:32:14,433 --> 00:32:16,435
I said,
"I thought you were dying."
529
00:32:17,186 --> 00:32:20,855
And she said,
"Oh, uh, the pregnancy
530
00:32:20,856 --> 00:32:23,067
is reversing the disease."
531
00:32:24,568 --> 00:32:27,821
"The pregnancy
is reversing the cancer."
532
00:32:30,783 --> 00:32:33,118
They just wanted to be
in pretend mode.
533
00:32:33,702 --> 00:32:36,664
They were never going to admit
that they did anything wrong.
534
00:32:38,123 --> 00:32:39,666
And I hung up the phone,
535
00:32:39,667 --> 00:32:42,378
and I have not
spoken to her since.
536
00:32:50,636 --> 00:32:56,265
{\an8}Amanda was part of Lisa's life
two years before Amanda said
537
00:32:56,266 --> 00:32:57,685
she was diagnosed with cancer
on her blog.
538
00:32:59,269 --> 00:33:01,813
And after
the Chili's fundraiser,
539
00:33:01,814 --> 00:33:04,983
{\an8}Lisa starts to read
Amanda's blog.
540
00:33:11,657 --> 00:33:13,324
A huge thank you to Heather
541
00:33:13,325 --> 00:33:14,909
and all four Chili's locations
542
00:33:14,910 --> 00:33:17,286
that hosted a fundraiser
for our family,
543
00:33:17,287 --> 00:33:18,746
as well as
the hundreds of people
544
00:33:18,747 --> 00:33:21,125
and dozens of servers
that participated.
545
00:33:21,375 --> 00:33:23,669
It was a wonderful way
to spend my birthday!
546
00:33:26,171 --> 00:33:27,798
I'm reading
through this blog.
547
00:33:28,882 --> 00:33:31,176
There's just fundraiser
after fundraiser.
548
00:33:32,177 --> 00:33:33,887
I'm just reading all this stuff.
549
00:33:35,639 --> 00:33:39,309
And she had people giving
signed guitars...
550
00:33:41,186 --> 00:33:45,566
and trips to New York
and baseball games, everything.
551
00:33:46,483 --> 00:33:48,484
I couldn't believe
that she could actually
552
00:33:48,485 --> 00:33:50,070
take it to that level.
553
00:33:50,571 --> 00:33:53,364
And I saw that
"Fight Song" video.
554
00:33:54,867 --> 00:33:56,993
♪ This is my fight song
Take back my life song... ♪
555
00:33:56,994 --> 00:34:00,163
To raise money for Amanda
and to get her story out there,
556
00:34:00,164 --> 00:34:04,333
they made a video and used
Rachel Platten's "Fight Song,"
557
00:34:04,334 --> 00:34:06,753
which is
such an empowering anthem
558
00:34:06,754 --> 00:34:09,505
and lyrically speaks to
what Amanda was going through.
559
00:34:09,506 --> 00:34:11,883
♪ Right now, I'll be strong ♪
560
00:34:11,884 --> 00:34:14,720
♪ I'll play my fight song ♪
561
00:34:15,804 --> 00:34:17,264
The "Fight Song."
562
00:34:18,807 --> 00:34:21,642
{\an8}There was this beautiful couple
within the church.
563
00:34:21,643 --> 00:34:23,853
And as a gift,
this very sweet couple
564
00:34:23,854 --> 00:34:26,314
decided to make this
awareness music video
565
00:34:26,315 --> 00:34:28,108
for Amanda and the family.
566
00:34:29,568 --> 00:34:32,820
Picture them dressed in white,
just frolicking along the beach.
567
00:34:32,821 --> 00:34:35,323
You know,
the hair blowing in the wind,
568
00:34:35,324 --> 00:34:37,951
along with "Fight Song" playing.
569
00:34:38,452 --> 00:34:40,621
Family sitting around a fire,
570
00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:45,416
and a bunch of people
holding signs that said,
571
00:34:45,417 --> 00:34:48,212
"Team Amanda." And not to brag,
572
00:34:48,462 --> 00:34:51,089
but yes,
I am in the video.
573
00:34:57,805 --> 00:35:00,306
{\an8}We were all crying
watching her video.
574
00:35:00,307 --> 00:35:03,059
{\an8}And she stood behind me,
she's patting me on the back.
575
00:35:03,060 --> 00:35:05,062
"It's okay,
everything's gonna be okay."
576
00:35:09,566 --> 00:35:11,943
She had so many people
in this video.
577
00:35:15,781 --> 00:35:18,366
I was so upset when I saw it.
578
00:35:18,367 --> 00:35:20,410
{\an8}She says,
"Let's make this viral."
579
00:35:20,702 --> 00:35:23,914
And I gave it a thumbs down.
580
00:35:25,958 --> 00:35:27,708
That was my only thing
I could do,
581
00:35:27,709 --> 00:35:29,418
was give it a thumbs down.
582
00:35:29,419 --> 00:35:31,754
And then I called
a few of my friends,
583
00:35:31,755 --> 00:35:34,383
and I said, "Can you give it
a thumbs down, this video?"
584
00:35:35,551 --> 00:35:39,637
Well, she made a reference
in one of her blogs
585
00:35:39,638 --> 00:35:44,268
to people not supporting her.
586
00:35:45,185 --> 00:35:46,978
You really
learn who's there for you
587
00:35:46,979 --> 00:35:48,856
when you have
nothing else to give.
588
00:35:50,274 --> 00:35:53,569
And I knew... I knew it was
the downvotes that got her.
589
00:35:54,278 --> 00:35:56,112
Although
it hurt when some friends
590
00:35:56,113 --> 00:35:58,657
and even family
haven't really shown support,
591
00:35:58,991 --> 00:36:00,825
the amount of people
following my story
592
00:36:00,826 --> 00:36:02,743
is something
I couldn't have even fathomed
593
00:36:02,744 --> 00:36:08,000
before cancer. Thank you.
You are #TeamAmanda.
594
00:36:20,304 --> 00:36:22,764
She was so young
and beautiful and vibrant.
595
00:36:26,852 --> 00:36:28,811
{\an8}The struggle
that she was experiencing,
596
00:36:28,812 --> 00:36:30,188
{\an8}she wasn't doing it silently.
597
00:36:34,192 --> 00:36:35,610
She was dying
598
00:36:35,611 --> 00:36:38,447
{\an8}but she wanted you to know
that she was living.
599
00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:43,451
On a positive,
my heart is so full.
600
00:36:43,452 --> 00:36:45,703
Thank you to anyone
and everyone
601
00:36:45,704 --> 00:36:47,706
for supporting our family
during this time.
602
00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:55,421
The best visual I can give you
of Amanda C. Riley
603
00:36:55,422 --> 00:36:57,549
is her on the middle of a stage
604
00:36:57,841 --> 00:37:00,968
with that fog
creeping around her ankles,
605
00:37:00,969 --> 00:37:05,891
with the lights shining,
short hair, her saying,
606
00:37:06,683 --> 00:37:09,895
"Oh, God, thank you
for giving me another day."
607
00:37:13,065 --> 00:37:15,275
I'm grateful for the experience
608
00:37:15,484 --> 00:37:17,610
because I wouldn't have
the relationship with God
609
00:37:17,611 --> 00:37:19,738
that I have now
if I didn't have cancer.
610
00:37:31,667 --> 00:37:34,126
My name is
Nancy Moscatiello, and I am
611
00:37:34,127 --> 00:37:35,963
a investigative producer
for television.
612
00:37:38,382 --> 00:37:42,302
In 2015, I had been working
on a television show
613
00:37:42,511 --> 00:37:45,263
that was about to launch
called Crime Watch Daily.
614
00:37:47,224 --> 00:37:50,309
We were prepping stories,
shooting stories,
615
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:52,353
and getting ready
for the launch in September.
616
00:37:52,354 --> 00:37:56,357
{\an8}And one of the things
we had hoped to be able to do
617
00:37:56,358 --> 00:38:00,779
{\an8}was reach out and find
different types of scam stories.
618
00:38:02,698 --> 00:38:04,991
I posted in various groups,
saying,
619
00:38:04,992 --> 00:38:06,867
"Hey, I'm a producer
for a television show."
620
00:38:06,868 --> 00:38:09,538
"This is the types of stories
we're looking for."
621
00:38:15,335 --> 00:38:17,004
I had gotten
some emails,
622
00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:19,463
and one of 'em had
a lot of detail in it
623
00:38:19,464 --> 00:38:20,881
and a lot of information about,
624
00:38:20,882 --> 00:38:22,634
"Hey, you should look
at this woman."
625
00:38:23,927 --> 00:38:26,013
"She's in
the Northern California area."
626
00:38:28,306 --> 00:38:30,224
Can you read
the first couple sentences?
627
00:38:30,225 --> 00:38:31,476
Mm-hmm.
628
00:38:32,728 --> 00:38:34,478
"Hi, Nancy.
I am contacting you
629
00:38:34,479 --> 00:38:36,272
because I saw
a comment you left."
630
00:38:38,567 --> 00:38:40,067
"I believe
that I have a story
631
00:38:40,068 --> 00:38:42,821
that you might be very
interested in checking out."
632
00:38:43,739 --> 00:38:47,199
"There is a 30-year-old woman
in Silicon Valley, California,
633
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,662
who is now claiming to have
stage-four blood cancer."
634
00:38:52,581 --> 00:38:54,916
This person was adamant
that they knew
635
00:38:55,125 --> 00:38:57,335
that what she was saying
was false...
636
00:38:58,754 --> 00:39:00,505
and that she didn't have cancer.
637
00:39:04,843 --> 00:39:05,926
So that intrigued me.
638
00:39:05,927 --> 00:39:07,929
There was a lot of information
to go on.
639
00:39:10,057 --> 00:39:11,265
So I started to look
640
00:39:11,266 --> 00:39:13,392
at the different things
she sent me,
641
00:39:13,393 --> 00:39:15,020
including the woman's blog.
642
00:39:16,938 --> 00:39:19,024
There was a lot to look at,
but I also knew
643
00:39:19,357 --> 00:39:22,068
that I needed to keep
an open mind and be objective.
644
00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:23,986
Just because
someone thinks something
645
00:39:23,987 --> 00:39:25,530
doesn't mean it's true.
646
00:39:28,867 --> 00:39:31,077
This tipster felt very confident
647
00:39:31,078 --> 00:39:33,621
in sending me
all this information,
648
00:39:33,622 --> 00:39:36,082
but they also wanted
to remain anonymous.
649
00:39:36,083 --> 00:39:38,502
I understood that.
That's really, really, common.
650
00:39:40,253 --> 00:39:43,714
However, I knew who they were,
and I had no problem
651
00:39:43,715 --> 00:39:46,051
keeping their secret
for as long as they wanted.
652
00:39:46,718 --> 00:39:50,055
{\an8} Nancy's source
insisted on anonymity.
653
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,182
I really didn't know if
she would ever be comfortable
654
00:39:53,183 --> 00:39:56,310
with coming forward
and being identified
655
00:39:56,311 --> 00:39:59,564
as the person that said
Amanda Riley didn't have cancer.
656
00:40:00,524 --> 00:40:03,192
People are all trying
to figure out who she was,
657
00:40:03,193 --> 00:40:05,112
and I kept that secret
for years.
658
00:40:15,205 --> 00:40:16,873
My name is Lisa Berry.
659
00:40:18,875 --> 00:40:21,545
And I am the anonymous source.
660
00:40:26,049 --> 00:40:29,052
It's time. I'm proud of it.
661
00:40:30,053 --> 00:40:31,763
I'm proud that
I'm the anonymous source.
662
00:40:33,431 --> 00:40:36,392
Lisa felt the need
to contact me
663
00:40:36,393 --> 00:40:39,688
to help with the situation
she was watching unravel.
664
00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:43,108
But the biggest concern
I had was,
665
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,111
what if she actually
did have cancer?
666
00:40:47,737 --> 00:40:49,447
All she has to say is,
"They're lying."
667
00:40:50,574 --> 00:40:54,535
And then we are the bad people
who just accused
668
00:40:54,536 --> 00:40:59,332
this poor dying, young mother,
member of her church community,
669
00:40:59,791 --> 00:41:01,459
speaker at her church.
670
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,297
We are accusing her
of faking cancer.
671
00:41:08,425 --> 00:41:10,719
We would be
awful people doing that.
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