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Go and have the
time of your life.
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Plane's gone down.
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Plane's gone down.
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- Who was it you lost?
- Our daughter, Flora.
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I have nightmares.
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I have nightmares.
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Your government
knew, they all knew.
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The arrest of two
Libyan nationals...
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The arrest of two
Libyan nationals...
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Libya? I thought Iran did it.
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This is absolutely central to
the Crown's prosecution case.
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We are proposing the trial
be held in a neutral country.
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We are proposing the trial
be held in a neutral country.
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I only want to know
who killed my daughter.
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You accept the
verdict, whatever it is,
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..and we get you back.
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I promise.
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I promise.
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The top
stories in Scotland today.
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The top
stories in Scotland today.
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Trial of the century opens...
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It's being called
the trial of the century.
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..finally are standing trial...
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Behind me is Camp
Zeist, a former military base
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outside Utrecht, converted
at a cost of £12 million.
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Outside Utrecht, converted
at a cost of £12 million.
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On a tiny patch of
Dutch soil, designated as Scotland.
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There is no jury.
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Instead, four Scottish Law
Lords will pass judgment...
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Instead, four Scottish Law
Lords will pass judgment...
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27 American
families are here,
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along with a smaller group...
This is our daughter, Theo Cohen.
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She was only 20 years
old when her plane
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She was only 20 years
old when her plane
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- was blown up over Lockerbie.
- It's going to be difficult
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to prove the case against two Libyans,
but that is not important to me.
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I'll just be happy
to see them in court.
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I'll just be happy
to see them in court.
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It's important that we live in
a society where the legal system
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cannot be manipulated
for political ends.
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My brother and the others
killed cannot demand the justice
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My brother and the others
killed cannot demand the justice
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they are due. So we
must speak for them.
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The prosecution must prove
beyond all reasonable doubt
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that they were responsible
for the bombing of Flight 103.
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That they were responsible
for the bombing of Flight 103.
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'I have every faith
that they will do so.'
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So good to see you.
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Your attention
for a moment, folks.
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Your attention
for a moment, folks.
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Uh, Brian Murtagh, US
Department of Justice.
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Uh, my colleague Dana is right
now handing around copies
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Uh, my colleague Dana is right
now handing around copies
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of the prosecution witness list.
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One thousand witnesses
to get through.
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Any questions, we're right here.
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Honour to meet
you, sir. Pleasure.
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Um, how often will you
be coming to the trial?
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John and I are here representing
the UK Families Group.
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We'll be here every day until
the verdict is announced.
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I admire your dedication.
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How long do you think
the trial will take?
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How long do you think
the trial will take?
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It's hard to say, ma'am. Uh...
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Six months... maybe more.
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But be in no doubt, no
matter how long it takes,
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But be in no doubt, no
matter how long it takes,
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these men are guilty, and
we will get a conviction.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
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the court will
shortly be convening.
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The court will
shortly be convening.
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The press gallery is to the
left, ladies and gentlemen.
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Sick!
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Abdelbaset
Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi
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and Al Amin Khalifa Fhimah,
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and Al Amin Khalifa Fhimah,
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you are both charged
with conspiring together
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to place onboard
Pan Am Flight 103
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a suitcase containing an
improvised explosive device.
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A suitcase containing an
improvised explosive device.
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Having tagged the suitcase
to travel unaccompanied
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from Malta airport
to Frankfurt airport,
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from Malta airport
to Frankfurt airport,
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via London Heathrow to New York,
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which exploded in mid-air
over Lockerbie, Scotland,
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which exploded in mid-air
over Lockerbie, Scotland,
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resulting in the murder of
259 passengers and crew,
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and 11 people on the ground.
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And 11 people on the ground.
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My Lord, the accused
plead not guilty.
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The witness schedule reads
as follows. Number one...
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- Well, enjoy
your stay. - Thank you.
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Alright.
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Can I now take you
back to the events
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Can I now take you
back to the events
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of the 21st of December, 1988?
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I-I saw a wing,
the whole of the wing.
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I-I saw a wing,
the whole of the wing.
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A silhouette against the
skies coming towards us.
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I followed it all the
way until it, uh...
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I followed it all the
way until it, uh...
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disappeared behind the
buildings, and I saw the...
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..explosion of flames rise up.
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It was like
the world was on fire.
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Uh, thick smoke,
fire everywhere.
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Uh, thick smoke,
fire everywhere.
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The overpowering
smell of engine fuel.
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The sound of
screaming and, uh...
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..objects and...
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..people falling out of the sky.
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We had, first of all,
to look for any passengers
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that might be in need
of medical attention.
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There were none.
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There were none.
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Bodies were recovered
and... body parts.
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Many.
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If-If you
come out my house,
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..you go down some steps, and...
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..just to the left of it, four or
five feet away from the steps...
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..just to the left of it, four or
five feet away from the steps...
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..there was a young
lady lying there.
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There were bodies...
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..everywhere...
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Men, women, children.
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Men, women, children.
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There was one
outside my house...
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..a baby.
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There were more...
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..on the pavement...
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..on the pavement...
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on the golf course...
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..in hedges.
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They were unrecognizable.
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They were unrecognizable.
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The whole town was in
shock for a long time.
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I know one young man
done away with himself.
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I know one young man
done away with himself.
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It affected a lot of people...
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It affected a lot of people...
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..for a long time.
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People come from
across the world to...
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..visit the memorial, to
remember their parent or...
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..visit the memorial, to
remember their parent or...
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Uh... sister...
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..or a child.
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..or a child.
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And some of them ask
to visit the place
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where their loved one, um...
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where their loved one, um...
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where the body was found.
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And so you find yourself taking
someone you don't know...
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..a stranger...
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..to show them the place.
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But in a way, they're
not strangers.
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But in a way, they're
not strangers.
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It's our duty...
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..to welcome them, to say...
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"We know what it feels like."
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"We know what it feels like."
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You alright?
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Hearing all that today...
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what she must have gone through.
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And I still don't
know where she fell.
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And I still don't
know where she fell.
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Where she was found.
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I'm not sure what
good it would do.
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Why didn't I come to
the ice rink with you?
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Why didn't I come to
the ice rink with you?
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How cowardly was I?
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Those poor people in Lockerbie.
They never asked for any of this.
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Those poor people in Lockerbie.
They never asked for any of this.
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Did they do it?
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Did they do it?
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I watched them so closely.
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Not a flicker of anything.
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Not a flicker of anything.
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Yes, I think they did.
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Everything points to them.
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Everything points to them.
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Thank you.
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Give my love to
Catherine and William.
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Why don't you do it yourself,
Jim? Just pick up the phone.
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Why don't you do it yourself,
Jim? Just pick up the phone.
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Look after yourself. You, too.
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The press centre's
like a desert.
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Thought I'd get
closer to the action.
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Thought I'd get
closer to the action.
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He's looking mighty confident.
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He's looking mighty confident.
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When a bomb
explodes, it generates
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intense heat and sends
out tiny shards...
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intense heat and sends
out tiny shards...
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..from whichever
housing it is lodged in.
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That is what we were
initially searching for.
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Parts of the explosive device lodged
in charred and damaged clothing
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Parts of the explosive device lodged
in charred and damaged clothing
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that would have been
near or around the bomb.
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After several months
examining debris,
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I found a blast-damaged
electronic fragment
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I found a blast-damaged
electronic fragment
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lodged inside the charred
remains of a shirt.
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My Lords, the fragment
is on the evidence table
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but for the purposes of clarity,
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we will now show an
enlarged image of it.
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Dr Hayes, you identified this
fragment as being significant.
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I understood it to
be significant. Yes.
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I understood it to
be significant. Yes.
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But I had left RARDE
before it was identified.
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I was succeeded by my
colleague, Allen Feraday
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with whom I published the
final forensic report.
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With whom I published the
final forensic report.
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This fragment seemed
to be the only part
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of the circuit
board from the timer
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of the circuit
board from the timer
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which detonated the
bomb aboard Flight 103.
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Were you able to identify what
kind of timer it was from?
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Not initially. No.
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It was a bit of a
needle in a haystack.
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There are thousands
of companies worldwide
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which manufacture
circuit boards.
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Which manufacture
circuit boards.
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But finally, a year later,
another forensic colleague
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in the United States,
Thomas Thurman of the FBI,
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in the United States,
Thomas Thurman of the FBI,
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found a match.
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Can you tell the court how exactly
the circuit board was identified?
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The fragment materials
and tracking pattern
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The fragment materials
and tracking pattern
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were extensively compared with
circuit boards within timers,
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which the FBI had recovered
a few years previously,
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which the FBI had recovered
a few years previously,
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of a type called MST-13, which
was designed and manufactured
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by a Swiss company called
MEBO, based in Zurich.
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By a Swiss company called
MEBO, based in Zurich.
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And from whom were
those timers seized?
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Agents of the JSO.
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Agents of the JSO.
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The Libyan Intelligence agency.
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And you were entirely satisfied
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they were the exact same
model of circuit board?
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They were the exact same
model of circuit board?
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It was conclusively
established that the tracks
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present on the
fragment are of copper,
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present on the
fragment are of copper,
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covered by a layer of pure tin.
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Similar in all respects
to the sample boards
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obtained from MEBO.
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Obtained from MEBO.
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It was truly amazing what
the police did, Jane,
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to find something so critical
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among millions and millions
of pieces of debris.
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Among millions and millions
of pieces of debris.
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That's amazing.
It's incredible.
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That fragment of circuit board is
the first crucial link to Libya.
255
00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,336
That fragment of circuit board is
the first crucial link to Libya.
256
00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:37,520
The prosecution will
just have to prove
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the fragment came from the same
batch of timers sold to Libya.
258
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The fragment came from the same
batch of timers sold to Libya.
259
00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,920
It's all
about joining the dots.
260
00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,999
The prosecution have
to make a connection.
261
00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:48,040
The prosecution have
to make a connection.
262
00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,480
Jim...
263
00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,999
Jim...
264
00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,160
Jim...
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..and prove them.
266
00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,840
Oh, yes, I see.
267
00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,640
How are you?
268
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Are the kids OK at uni?
269
00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,360
Yeah. No, I'm fine.
Everyone's fine. Um...
270
00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,080
So how's... Um, what's next?
271
00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:19,920
Star witness number
one, Edwin Bollier.
272
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He's basically an arms dealer.
273
00:18:20,001 --> 00:18:21,960
He's basically an arms dealer.
274
00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,080
The prosecution need
to get it on record
275
00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:27,640
that the timers were
supplied by his company.
276
00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,280
I am the
co-owner of MEBO,
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00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,800
a company which
manufactures and sells
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00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:35,999
electronic and
electrical components.
279
00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,760
Electronic and
electrical components.
280
00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,960
Does that include timers such
as the MST-13 that we see here?
281
00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,000
Yeah, that's correct. Yeah.
282
00:18:44,001 --> 00:18:45,081
Yeah, that's correct. Yeah.
283
00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,400
Did your company
manufacture and sell timers
284
00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,280
such as these to the
Libyan Intelligence agency?
285
00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,320
I am a legitimate businessman.
286
00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,999
What I do is perfectly legal.
287
00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,160
What I do is perfectly legal.
288
00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:06,120
If you could just stick to
answering the question, Mr Bollier.
289
00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,000
Yes, we supplied Libya
with 20 of these timers.
290
00:19:08,001 --> 00:19:11,960
Yes, we supplied Libya
with 20 of these timers.
291
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,120
Libya are one of
our best customers.
292
00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,000
Mr Bollier, do you recognise either
of the two men sitting in dock?
293
00:19:16,001 --> 00:19:20,680
Mr Bollier, do you recognise either
of the two men sitting in dock?
294
00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,999
I do not know the man on the
right, but the man on the left,
295
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,536
I do not know the man on the
right, but the man on the left,
296
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:30,480
I know he was a partner in ABH,
297
00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:31,999
which is a Libyan
company based in Zurich.
298
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,056
Which is a Libyan
company based in Zurich.
299
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,680
I see.
300
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,800
And is it true Mr
Megrahi's company
301
00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,920
was based in the same
building as your company?
302
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:40,000
Yeah. They rented
office space from us.
303
00:19:40,001 --> 00:19:42,960
Yeah. They rented
office space from us.
304
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,600
We were on the same floor.
305
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,999
Mr Bollier, did Mr
Megrahi personally order
306
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:48,200
Mr Bollier, did Mr
Megrahi personally order
307
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,400
the MST-13 timers from you?
308
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,000
No. My dealings were
with friends of Megrahi.
309
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,999
But Megrahi had a...
310
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,120
But Megrahi had a...
311
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,560
had a high position,
I'm sure of it.
312
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,080
He was always moving, you know.
313
00:20:18,120 --> 00:20:19,960
Zurich, Tripoli, Malta.
314
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,440
He was well-connected.
315
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,999
Can we bring up the timer fragment
image PT35-B again, please?
316
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,440
Can we bring up the timer fragment
image PT35-B again, please?
317
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,080
Mr Bollier?
318
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,240
Mr Bollier.
Could the Crown counsel
319
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,320
have your full
attention? What is this?
320
00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:43,999
This is the fragment found
at the Lockerbie crash.
321
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:44,800
This is the fragment found
at the Lockerbie crash.
322
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,440
No, this is not
the same fragment.
323
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:51,999
Mr Bollier, it was confirmed
by two forensic scientists.
324
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:52,040
Mr Bollier, it was confirmed
by two forensic scientists.
325
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,360
One from RARDE, one from the
FBI. No, it looks similar,
326
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,280
but this is not
the same fragment.
327
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,999
My company did not sell
this, I can assure you.
328
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:00,560
My company did not sell
this, I can assure you.
329
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,480
So, maybe it's a counterfeit?
330
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,840
How can it be a counterfeit?
331
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,560
It's been in police custody
since it was discovered.
332
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:08,000
May I examine the actual
physical fragment?
333
00:21:08,001 --> 00:21:11,080
May I examine the actual
physical fragment?
334
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,440
Hm?
335
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,600
There.
336
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,080
Well, Mr Bollier?
337
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:47,999
I am right.
338
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:48,120
I am right.
339
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,680
This is not the same fragment
that I was shown in Scotland.
340
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,360
What's he doing? He's
trying to distance himself.
341
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,200
Of course he is.
Clearly panicking.
342
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,840
Probably afraid he'll get sued.
343
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,920
All he's bothered about is
his company's reputation
344
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:04,000
and saving his own skin.
345
00:22:04,001 --> 00:22:05,640
And saving his own skin.
346
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:10,320
..in 1999, as being
made by your company.
347
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,440
Bearing in mind...
348
00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:19,400
that scientific tests were made,
349
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,000
can you confirm that this
fragment of circuit board
350
00:22:20,001 --> 00:22:22,840
can you confirm that this
fragment of circuit board
351
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,000
was part of a batch of 20
timers bought by the Libyans?
352
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,000
A batch of timers you delivered
to Libyan Intelligence personally.
353
00:22:28,001 --> 00:22:31,240
A batch of timers you delivered
to Libyan Intelligence personally.
354
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,240
I remind you, you're under oath.
355
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,640
Yes.
356
00:22:56,360 --> 00:22:59,200
You travelled to Tripoli
with them in your possession?
357
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,000
Yes. You took them
to the headquarters
358
00:23:00,001 --> 00:23:01,520
Yes. You took them
to the headquarters
359
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,560
of Libyan Intelligence
in Tripoli? Yes.
360
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,560
And whilst you were
there, you witnessed
361
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,999
trials involving
some of those timers.
362
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:08,720
Trials involving
some of those timers.
363
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,440
Correct, Mr Bollier?
364
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,160
Yes.
365
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,000
Hm. Thank you, Mr Bollier.
366
00:23:16,001 --> 00:23:18,040
Hm. Thank you, Mr Bollier.
367
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,720
Big day tomorrow. Star
witness number two.
368
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,040
Yep.
369
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,000
Tony Gauci. Owns a clothes shop.
370
00:23:40,001 --> 00:23:43,040
Tony Gauci. Owns a clothes shop.
371
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,120
Mary's House. Sliema, Malta.
372
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,000
The indictment states that the
clothes wrapped around the bomb
373
00:23:48,001 --> 00:23:50,441
The indictment states that the
clothes wrapped around the bomb
374
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,120
which brought down Flight 103
were bought from his shop.
375
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,400
And in the collar of the
shirt, the forensics guy,
376
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,320
Hayes, found this.
377
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,000
When they interviewed him,
378
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,440
Gauci remembered the Libyan
customer he'd sold the clothes to.
379
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,000
The prosecution need
Tony Gauci to link
380
00:24:12,001 --> 00:24:15,040
The prosecution need
Tony Gauci to link
381
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,200
one of the suspects to the bomb.
382
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,000
Mr Gauci...
383
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:20,760
Mr Gauci...
384
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,120
at the beginning
of September, 1989,
385
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,560
did Scottish police visit
your shop in Sliema, Malta?
386
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:27,999
Yes. Detective Harry Bell
from Scotland came to see me.
387
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,160
Yes. Detective Harry Bell
from Scotland came to see me.
388
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,080
And were you asked about a
particular sale of clothing
389
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:34,800
you had made in December, 1988?
390
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:35,999
Yes, I told them about a man...
391
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,200
Yes, I told them about a man...
392
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,880
A customer who had bought
clothes from my shop.
393
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,160
And were you able
to remember when
394
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,000
that particular sale
had taken place?
395
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:44,960
That particular sale
had taken place?
396
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,200
Uh...
397
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,400
It was slightly
before Christmas.
398
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,040
It was raining.
399
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:52,000
I do not remember the exact
date. It was so long ago.
400
00:24:52,001 --> 00:24:56,040
I do not remember the exact
date. It was so long ago.
401
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,880
Of course, I understand.
402
00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,999
Now, this man to whom
you sold the clothing...
403
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,176
Now, this man to whom
you sold the clothing...
404
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,440
did you recognise
his nationality?
405
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,000
Oh.
406
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,000
To me, he was a Libyan.
407
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,000
Are you familiar from experience in
your shop and in Malta with Libyans?
408
00:25:08,001 --> 00:25:11,920
Are you familiar from experience in
your shop and in Malta with Libyans?
409
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,320
Oh.
410
00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:15,999
Many Libyan men fly to Malta
for business and for pleasure.
411
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,320
Many Libyan men fly to Malta
for business and for pleasure.
412
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,760
They are able to do things in
Malta that are forbidden in Libya.
413
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:24,000
Mr Gauci, where do you
source these shirts from?
414
00:25:24,001 --> 00:25:27,040
Mr Gauci, where do you
source these shirts from?
415
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,840
Malta. Only Malta.
416
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,000
I have dealt with Slalom, the
manufacturer, for many years.
417
00:25:32,001 --> 00:25:34,880
I have dealt with Slalom, the
manufacturer, for many years.
418
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,240
Now, Mr Gauci, I want you to
take a moment to look around
419
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,999
the courtroom and tell
me if you see the man
420
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:40,120
the courtroom and tell
me if you see the man
421
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,360
who bought the clothes
from you in December, 1988.
422
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,840
He is the man... on this side.
423
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:12,000
Which man are you pointing at?
424
00:26:12,001 --> 00:26:14,120
Which man are you pointing at?
425
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,240
Uh, not that one.
The one on the left.
426
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,999
That is the man who resembles
the man who came to my shop.
427
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:20,680
That is the man who resembles
the man who came to my shop.
428
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,400
You're certain about this?
429
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,840
This man here on the left
is the man you identified
430
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,480
for Detective Harry Bell?
431
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,000
Yes, I identified this man from
photographs and in identity parades.
432
00:26:28,001 --> 00:26:31,360
Yes, I identified this man from
photographs and in identity parades.
433
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,960
And I remember,
434
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,999
it did not seem important
to him what he was buying.
435
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,240
It did not seem important
to him what he was buying.
436
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,040
He said to me, "None of
these clothes are for me."
437
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:44,000
Thank you, Mr Gauci.
438
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:44,760
Thank you, Mr Gauci.
439
00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:51,999
Four months in, and you
haven't missed a day.
440
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:52,560
Four months in, and you
haven't missed a day.
441
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,400
You're as good as
your word, Jim.
442
00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,960
You don't think it's odd?
443
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,800
The DOJ is not part of the trial,
yet they're here every single day.
444
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,840
They have every right.
445
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:07,999
They dropped the indictment.
446
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,120
They dropped the indictment.
447
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,280
There are Libyan
officials here, too.
448
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,840
A bit too pally with the
prosecution, if you ask me.
449
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,400
Mr Gauci, I noticed during
the Crown's questioning,
450
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,999
Mr Campbell omitted to mention
exactly how many interviews
451
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,136
Mr Campbell omitted to mention
exactly how many interviews
452
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,200
you conducted with Detective Harry
Bell and the Scottish police.
453
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,600
Can you remember?
454
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,000
Uh... no, I cannot.
455
00:27:32,001 --> 00:27:34,280
Uh... no, I cannot.
456
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,760
Eighteen interviews
457
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,320
and 19 statements,
Mr Gauci. Eighteen?
458
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,880
You gave 19 sworn statements.
459
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,999
In truth, Mr Gauci, you've
had considerable difficulty
460
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:48,880
In truth, Mr Gauci, you've
had considerable difficulty
461
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,000
identifying Mr Megrahi
before, haven't you?
462
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,480
No, I- In the statement
I have here...
463
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:55,999
..you described the clothes
purchaser as, I quote...
464
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,040
..you described the clothes
purchaser as, I quote...
465
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,600
"Around 50, and six feet tall."
466
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,999
Of course, Mr Megrahi is 48.
467
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,440
Of course, Mr Megrahi is 48.
468
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,800
Which means that
in December, 1988,
469
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,000
when you say you sold him
the clothes, he was...
470
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,840
36 years old.
471
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,040
And here you list the items
472
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,999
you claim the clothes
purchaser bought from you.
473
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:20,880
You claim the clothes
purchaser bought from you.
474
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,720
Trousers, pullover,
jacket, babygro...
475
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,000
..but no shirt.
476
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,000
..but no shirt.
477
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:33,320
No mention of a shirt,
Slalom or otherwise.
478
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:35,999
In fact, no mention of any
shirt until statement number 17.
479
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,200
In fact, no mention of any
shirt until statement number 17.
480
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,720
What are we to make of that?
481
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,999
Did the clothes purchaser
buy a shirt from you or not?
482
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,240
Did the clothes purchaser
buy a shirt from you or not?
483
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,320
It was a long time
ago to remember.
484
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,720
Of course. Mr Bell was
interviewing you a whole two years
485
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,999
after the tragedy happened.
Anyone would have difficulty
486
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,096
after the tragedy happened.
Anyone would have difficulty
487
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,880
remembering anything after
that long, would they not?
488
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,560
Yes, that is it. Exactly.
489
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,360
Thank you, my Lord.
490
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,840
'The man was nervous.
491
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:23,999
And clearly muddled.
492
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,920
And clearly muddled.
493
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,640
Yet there he was, billed
as a star witness. Christ!'
494
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,440
Eighteen interviews,
19 statements.
495
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,999
Did the police just keep going
back to him until they got
496
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,056
Did the police just keep going
back to him until they got
497
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,160
the story they wanted? I don't know what
the hell the prosecution were doing.
498
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,520
Did they just hope the defence
wouldn't bring all that up?
499
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,999
It just smacks of incompetence.
500
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:40,720
It just smacks of incompetence.
501
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,680
Yeah. Well, I did a bit more digging
when I went back to my hotel room.
502
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,400
It was not only Megrahi
503
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,000
that Gauci identified
to Detective Bell
504
00:29:48,001 --> 00:29:49,496
that Gauci identified
to Detective Bell
505
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,680
as the man that he
sold the clothes to.
506
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,520
So, a year and a half before
he identified Megrahi...
507
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,000
..Gauci mentioned
a Mr Mohammed Abu Talb,
508
00:29:56,001 --> 00:29:59,800
..Gauci mentioned
a Mr Mohammed Abu Talb,
509
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,920
..a convicted Palestinian terrorist
and one of the Scottish police's
510
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,000
initial suspects
for the bombing.
511
00:30:04,001 --> 00:30:06,480
Initial suspects
for the bombing.
512
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,720
Now, is there an
Iranian connection?
513
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,999
A Syrian connection? A
Palestinian connection?
514
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:12,640
A Syrian connection? A
Palestinian connection?
515
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,280
Has there always been?
516
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,560
You need to get a picture of
Talb up there, by the way.
517
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,999
Look, I'm just asking the question, Jim, because
suddenly there's a whole lot more of them.
518
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,560
Look, I'm just asking the question, Jim, because
suddenly there's a whole lot more of them.
519
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,999
Megrahi, he's linked to
Bollier, and the MEBO timer.
520
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,296
Megrahi, he's linked to
Bollier, and the MEBO timer.
521
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,520
Timers are sold
to Libya by MEBO.
522
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,560
Megrahi's probably JSO.
523
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,999
Megrahi was Head of Airline
Security for Libyan Arab Airlines.
524
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,376
Megrahi was Head of Airline
Security for Libyan Arab Airlines.
525
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,080
Fhimah their station
manager on Malta.
526
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,999
Megrahi travelled to Malta, using
a passport under a false name
527
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:44,640
Megrahi travelled to Malta, using
a passport under a false name
528
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,840
issued to him by the
Libyan government.
529
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,160
And then he lied about
ever having been there.
530
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,999
Fhimah wrote in his diary
to procure Air Malta tags
531
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,256
Fhimah wrote in his diary
to procure Air Malta tags
532
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,160
for Megrahi on December 15th.
533
00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,999
There's still a hell of a
lot stacked against them.
534
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,000
There's still a hell of a
lot stacked against them.
535
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,400
You've
reached the Swire household.
536
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,280
We're not home to take
your call at the moment.
537
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,999
Please leave a message after the
beep and we'll get back to you.
538
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,176
Please leave a message after the
beep and we'll get back to you.
539
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,000
'Hello, Jane, it's me.
540
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,999
I suppose you must
be out somewhere.
541
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:32,040
I suppose you must
be out somewhere.
542
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,120
We are four months into
the trial now, and...
543
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,760
and things have...
544
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,800
Well, things could
be going better.'
545
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,960
Mrs Walker, I'm Jane...
546
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,000
I know who you are.
547
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,000
I know who you are.
548
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,400
Then you'll know why I've come.
549
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,680
Here.
550
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,200
This is Beechgrove.
551
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,040
This is where they found Flora.
552
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,000
I'll let you...
553
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,000
I'll let you...
554
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,360
I love you so much.
I love you so much.
555
00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:48,080
I love you. I love you, Flora.
556
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,200
I love you so much.
557
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,440
Star witness number
three. The super grass.
558
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,999
My Lords, every precaution must be
taken to ensure Mr Giaka's safety.
559
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,896
My Lords, every precaution must be
taken to ensure Mr Giaka's safety.
560
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,520
Therefore, the recording of
his voice will be distorted,
561
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,400
so as to avoid recognition
562
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,999
and the operator of the closed
circuit television cameras
563
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,056
and the operator of the closed
circuit television cameras
564
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,520
has been directed not
to film at any time
565
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,200
whilst he is giving evidence.
566
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,999
I became a CIA informant,
567
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,120
I became a CIA informant,
568
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,800
because I no longer wanted to
work for the Libyan Intelligence.
569
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,280
Because of their
involvement in terrorism.
570
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,680
I wanted to get out of Libya
and live a normal life.
571
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,440
Mr Giaka,
in March 1986,
572
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,999
you were an employee of Libyan
Arab Airlines at Malta airport,
573
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,240
you were an employee of Libyan
Arab Airlines at Malta airport,
574
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,360
where you worked under Mr
Megrahi and Mr Fhimah. Yes?
575
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,000
Yes. Megrahi was the
head of security for LAA,
576
00:37:48,001 --> 00:37:50,760
Yes. Megrahi was the
head of security for LAA,
577
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,680
and Fhimah was the
station manager.
578
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:55,440
Now, you told your CIA handler
579
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,000
that you wrote an intelligence
report for the JSO,
580
00:37:56,001 --> 00:37:57,816
that you wrote an intelligence
report for the JSO,
581
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,320
the Libyan Intelligence
service, around that time.
582
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,880
Yes, I did.
583
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,999
What was this
intelligence report about?
584
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,600
What was this
intelligence report about?
585
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,000
Well, it outlined in detail
how a person could place
586
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,920
an unaccompanied bag
onboard an airline flight.
587
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:18,360
That was two to three months after
the US attack on Tripoli in 1986.
588
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:20,000
Many civilians and soldiers were
killed, and the JSO were furious.
589
00:38:20,001 --> 00:38:25,360
Many civilians and soldiers were
killed, and the JSO were furious.
590
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,999
They declared that Libya
would have revenge.
591
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,616
They declared that Libya
would have revenge.
592
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,120
And what did your
report conclude?
593
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,160
It concluded that, yes,
it could be easily done.
594
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,000
To whom did you
submit this report?
595
00:38:36,001 --> 00:38:37,520
To whom did you
submit this report?
596
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,200
To the Head of Airline
Security, Abdelbaset Megrahi.
597
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:47,920
You shared an office with
Mr Fhimah at Malta airport.
598
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,000
Is that correct? Yes. I did.
599
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,000
Could you tell the court
what Mr Fhimah showed you
600
00:38:52,001 --> 00:38:54,120
Could you tell the court
what Mr Fhimah showed you
601
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,760
was hidden inside his
desk in March 1986?
602
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,000
Ten kilos of TNT, brought to the
airport office by Mr Megrahi.
603
00:39:00,001 --> 00:39:04,360
Ten kilos of TNT, brought to the
airport office by Mr Megrahi.
604
00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:07,040
And LAA rush tags.
605
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,000
Could you explain to the
court what rush tags are?
606
00:39:08,001 --> 00:39:09,736
Could you explain to the
court what rush tags are?
607
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,240
Certainly. Rush tags
are used to allow
608
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,440
baggages onto planes
unaccompanied.
609
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,000
I see.
610
00:39:16,001 --> 00:39:17,120
I see.
611
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:22,080
Now, if we could move forward to
the evening of December 20th, 1988,
612
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,999
the night before the crash.
613
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:24,800
The night before the crash.
614
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,880
I saw Megrahi with Fhimah
615
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,920
in the baggage arrival
area at Malta Airport.
616
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:32,000
And where did they
take this suitcase?
617
00:39:32,001 --> 00:39:34,000
And where did they
take this suitcase?
618
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,880
Towards Customs.
And was the suitcase
619
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,360
opened for inspection?
No, it was not.
620
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,999
So they just walked through?
621
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:40,320
So they just walked through?
622
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,920
Yes. Thank you, Mr Giaka.
623
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,999
The JSO are a
merciless organization.
624
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,440
The JSO are a
merciless organization.
625
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,840
Would you agree? Oh, yes.
626
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,960
Are you in fear of your life
because of them, Mr Giaka?
627
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,520
Yes, I am.
628
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,720
Little wonder then you
wanted to get out of Libya
629
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,840
to live a normal life elsewhere.
630
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,999
In fact, you wanted to live a
normal life in America, did you not?
631
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,760
In fact, you wanted to live a
normal life in America, did you not?
632
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,040
Yes. You asked the
CIA several times
633
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,800
for money to help you emigrate.
634
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,680
Yes, I did.
635
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:16,480
What was their answer?
636
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,680
They said no.
637
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,520
But you were a valued informant.
Did you demand an explanation why?
638
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:33,200
Well, let me read to you what your
CIA case officer wrote about you.
639
00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:35,800
It might explain their
heartless decision.
640
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,320
"Giaka will be advised
in no uncertain terms
641
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,920
on the 4th of September
that we will not provide
642
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,999
any additional financial
assistance to him.
643
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:44,640
Any additional financial
assistance to him.
644
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,840
We will only continue his
$1,000 per month salary
645
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,480
through to the end of 1989.
646
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,999
If Giaka is not
able to demonstrate
647
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:52,520
If Giaka is not
able to demonstrate
648
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,040
sustained and defined access to
information of intelligence value
649
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,999
by January of 1990,
the CIA will cease
650
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:00,120
by January of 1990,
the CIA will cease
651
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,640
all salary and
financial support."
652
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,999
It seems the standard of information
that you were giving them
653
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:08,920
It seems the standard of information
that you were giving them
654
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,880
just was not good enough.
655
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,640
You had to do better, otherwise
you were a waste of money.
656
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,999
I'm so sorry. Is something
amusing you, Mr Giaka?
657
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:16,240
I'm so sorry. Is something
amusing you, Mr Giaka?
658
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,880
You seem to be smiling.
659
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,880
Is it forbidden to smile?
660
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,560
That is
entirely up to you.
661
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:24,000
But I do notice you keep
looking to the back row
662
00:41:24,001 --> 00:41:25,960
But I do notice you keep
looking to the back row
663
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,360
of the prosecution benches to
the two American gentlemen there.
664
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,160
Why is that?
665
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,000
There's a man sitting there
wearing spectacles. Do you know hm?
666
00:41:32,001 --> 00:41:34,720
There's a man sitting there
wearing spectacles. Do you know hm?
667
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,200
What the hell is going on?
668
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:46,000
Brian Murtagh.
669
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,999
So, whose evidence have
we been hearing today?
670
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,576
So, whose evidence have
we been hearing today?
671
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,120
Yours or your friend's,
Brian Murtagh?
672
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,240
Holy shit.
673
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,999
Why is the CIA informant
on first name terms
674
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,360
Why is the CIA informant
on first name terms
675
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,840
with the Department of Justice?
Who's pulling Giaka's strings here?
676
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,880
Fucked up. See, I put
it to you, Mr Giaka,
677
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:03,999
that all this
security protection
678
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,016
that all this
security protection
679
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,320
is a charade to deceive us into
thinking that you are genuine.
680
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,880
Those screens around
you obscure the truth.
681
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:11,999
My Lords, Mr Keen is going too
far. You didn't come forward
682
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,616
My Lords, Mr Keen is going too
far. You didn't come forward
683
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,640
with this evidence after
Flight 103 came down, did you?
684
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,360
No. You came
forward years later,
685
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,999
after your friends at the CIA told
you to give them something bigger.
686
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,016
After your friends at the CIA told
you to give them something bigger.
687
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,440
TNT, rush tags, Fhimah
and Megrahi taking
688
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,600
a Samsonite suitcase
through security.
689
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:28,000
Every single word you
have said is made up.
690
00:42:28,001 --> 00:42:30,120
Every single word you
have said is made up.
691
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,320
You are, in the CIA's own
words, a shirker and a fantasist
692
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,999
who is just not
worth investing in.
693
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,400
Who is just not
worth investing in.
694
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,560
You're a fake and a liar.
695
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,680
Thank you, my Lord.
696
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,560
It was always
going to be a risk.
697
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,640
A risk?
698
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:16,000
This is a court of law. Giaka
was paid for his evidence.
699
00:43:16,001 --> 00:43:18,440
This is a court of law. Giaka
was paid for his evidence.
700
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,080
Let's let the judges decide.
701
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,600
He lied under oath. This
will be declared a mistrial.
702
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,999
No, it won't. It
damn well should be.
703
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,440
No, it won't. It
damn well should be.
704
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,640
What do you want from
this, Jim? Justice.
705
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,680
We all want justice.
Everybody wants justice.
706
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:32,000
How are you gonna get
that without a fair trial?
707
00:43:32,001 --> 00:43:33,576
How are you gonna get
that without a fair trial?
708
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,920
I don't call murdering 270 innocent people
fair. Do you? Doesn't matter how you get
709
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,999
a conviction as long as you get one. Is that it?
Those two men may be small cogs in a big machine,
710
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,336
a conviction as long as you get one. Is that it?
Those two men may be small cogs in a big machine,
711
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,320
but I am telling you,
they were part of this.
712
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,840
Because our governments
decided they were?
713
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,560
This trial only happens once.
714
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,840
We got one shot to take
down these Libyans.
715
00:43:55,240 --> 00:43:56,000
Do you want to come away
from this with nothing?
716
00:43:56,001 --> 00:43:57,881
Do you want to come away
from this with nothing?
717
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,240
There's no doubt that
the clothes in the suitcase
718
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,280
containing the bomb
were bought at this shop
719
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,960
called Mary's House,
here in Malta.
720
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,680
The question is,
who bought them?
721
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:18,080
Mr Gauci won't talk to reporters,
but his identification of al-Megrahi
722
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,999
is anything but convincing.
723
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,080
Is anything but convincing.
724
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,080
The prosecution
case has taken a further blow
725
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,560
after the eyewitness testimony
of a former intelligence agent,
726
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,000
who was previously employed
by Libyan Arab Airlines,
727
00:44:28,001 --> 00:44:30,600
who was previously employed
by Libyan Arab Airlines,
728
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,240
here at Malta airport.
729
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,999
Questions are now being asked
as to what he stands to gain
730
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:36,080
Questions are now being asked
as to what he stands to gain
731
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,240
by testifying, with
claims being circulated
732
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,120
that he could receive
up to $4 million.
733
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,999
The amount of the reward put
up by the American government
734
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,416
The amount of the reward put
up by the American government
735
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,960
for evidence which leads to a
conviction of Megrahi and Fhimah.
736
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,400
..at the moment.
Please leave a message after the beep
737
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,680
and we'll get back
to you.
738
00:44:57,720 --> 00:44:59,320
Hello, it's me.
739
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,160
I'm just calling to
see how you all are.
740
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,280
And, um...
741
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,720
..to let you know
how things are here.
742
00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:02,720
First up today,
witness for the prosecution.
743
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,120
John Bedford, a baggage
handler from Heathrow.
744
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,880
The prosecution
believe that Bedford
745
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,960
loaded the unaccompanied
suitcase from Malta...
746
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,720
..containing the bomb.
747
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,120
Were you on
duty on the afternoon of
748
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,000
the 21st of December,
1988, Mr Bedford?
749
00:46:20,001 --> 00:46:21,800
The 21st of December,
1988, Mr Bedford?
750
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,440
Yes, sir. And do you remember
751
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,999
if any luggage arrived that
was destined for Flight 103?
752
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:28,040
If any luggage arrived that
was destined for Flight 103?
753
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,800
Yes. Yeah, it did. But not till
later at the end of my shift.
754
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,240
I remember, cos I had
my tea break first.
755
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,999
And how long were you
away from the area?
756
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,280
And how long were you
away from the area?
757
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,960
No more than half an hour.
758
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,240
And then you returned
to resume work?
759
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,999
Yeah. Yeah. And that's
when I saw them.
760
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,520
Yeah. Yeah. And that's
when I saw them.
761
00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:50,000
Them? What do you
mean, Mr Bedford?
762
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,360
There was two new suitcases
763
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,440
lying in the container when I...
when I got back from my tea break.
764
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,920
I didn't put them there.
765
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,040
Two other suitcases?
766
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,760
I don't understand.
767
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,360
Did the prosecution not
check this out before?
768
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,000
Did you see who put those two
other suitcases into the container?
769
00:47:08,001 --> 00:47:11,000
Did you see who put those two
other suitcases into the container?
770
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,520
No. No, I didn't.
771
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,720
Mr Bedford,
is it conceivable
772
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,000
that persons other than
you or your colleagues
773
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,000
could have put those
suitcases into that container?
774
00:47:24,001 --> 00:47:25,616
Could have put those
suitcases into that container?
775
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,960
Yeah. I mean, anyone that
works at the airport.
776
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,560
Anyone? You are
saying that anyone
777
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:31,999
who was airside
could have done that?
778
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:32,240
Who was airside
could have done that?
779
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,080
Yeah. For the
avoidance of doubt,
780
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,520
these cases appeared before the
Malta-Frankfurt flight arrived.
781
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,720
Yes, sir.
782
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:47,999
Can you describe these
suitcases to the court? Yeah.
783
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,040
Can you describe these
suitcases to the court? Yeah.
784
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,880
One was a brown colour. The
other one, it was darker.
785
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,000
They were hard-shelled suitcases,
same type that Samsonite make.
786
00:47:56,001 --> 00:47:59,560
They were hard-shelled suitcases,
same type that Samsonite make.
787
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,000
That's the same as
the Malta suitcase.
788
00:48:04,001 --> 00:48:05,481
That's the same as
the Malta suitcase.
789
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,999
Bedford said his tea
break lasted half an hour.
790
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,840
Bedford said his tea
break lasted half an hour.
791
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,520
Which means there was no
one around that container.
792
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:19,999
No security guards.
793
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,000
No security guards.
794
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:27,999
For all that time.
795
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,000
For all that time.
796
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,040
How did those
cases get in there?
797
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,680
Who put them there?
798
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,999
Did Bedford maybe see
the actual suitcase?
799
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:36,560
Did Bedford maybe see
the actual suitcase?
800
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,000
He can't have done. The Frankfurt
flight hadn't arrived yet.
801
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,280
Unless there was no bomb suitcase
on that Frankfurt flight.
802
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,999
Well, that would
destroy the whole case.
803
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:52,040
Well, that would
destroy the whole case.
804
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,600
The entire basis of the trial.
805
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,040
After you.
806
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,120
Why are the Crown bringing
in a German explosives expert?
807
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,760
I thought that
was all done with?
808
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,600
So they can discredit
the defence's theory.
809
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:40,000
Palestinian terrorists.
810
00:49:40,001 --> 00:49:41,320
Palestinian terrorists.
811
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,760
The Crown are running scared.
They've got to shut it down.
812
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,600
Mr Gobel...
813
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:48,000
In October 1988, you examined
some explosive devices
814
00:49:48,001 --> 00:49:51,680
In October 1988, you examined
some explosive devices
815
00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:53,320
that had been seized in a raid
816
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,999
on the Palestinian terrorist
organization PFLP-GC.
817
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:56,680
On the Palestinian terrorist
organization PFLP-GC.
818
00:49:56,720 --> 00:49:59,000
Is that correct?
Yes, that is correct.
819
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,920
And it has been claimed
in various corners
820
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,999
that, in fact, one of those devices
may have brought down Flight 103.
821
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,720
That, in fact, one of those devices
may have brought down Flight 103.
822
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,400
Yes, this was an early theory
with the German police,
823
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,520
but we came to believe
that Flight 103
824
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:12,000
could not have been brought
down by a PFLP-GC device.
825
00:50:12,001 --> 00:50:15,320
Could not have been brought
down by a PFLP-GC device.
826
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,280
Can you tell us why?
827
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,999
The PFLP-GC use air pressure
sensitive equipment.
828
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,536
The PFLP-GC use air pressure
sensitive equipment.
829
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,440
A combination of a
barometric switch...
830
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,999
In layman's terms, if
you could, Mr Gobel.
831
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:28,560
In layman's terms, if
you could, Mr Gobel.
832
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:33,280
Yeah. The PFLP-GC bombs were
made up of three components:
833
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,760
a switch, a timer,
and a detonator.
834
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:36,000
The switch's only job
is to turn the timer on.
835
00:50:36,001 --> 00:50:39,560
The switch's only job
is to turn the timer on.
836
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,200
And what triggers this
is a fall in air pressure
837
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:43,999
as a plane gains altitude.
838
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:44,200
As a plane gains altitude.
839
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:48,640
It takes about seven minutes
to detect this change.
840
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,999
The PFLP-GC at this time were
known to use ice cube timers,
841
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,296
The PFLP-GC at this time were
known to use ice cube timers,
842
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,800
so called because they
resembled ice cubes.
843
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,240
Yeah. Once the
switch turns them on,
844
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,640
the timer has an approximate
run time of 30 minutes,
845
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:08,000
after which it
triggers the detonator,
846
00:51:08,001 --> 00:51:09,840
after which it
triggers the detonator,
847
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,120
which then causes the Semtex
within the device to explode.
848
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,999
If a PFLP-GC device had been
used to destroy Flight 103,
849
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,880
If a PFLP-GC device had been
used to destroy Flight 103,
850
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,520
it would have exploded
between 35 and 45 minutes
851
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:23,999
into its first flight.
852
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,000
Into its first flight.
853
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,680
Flight 103 could only have been
brought down by this type of device
854
00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:31,999
if it had been primed or
put on board at Heathrow.
855
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,960
If it had been primed or
put on board at Heathrow.
856
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,360
The plane left Heathrow at
18:25 and it exploded at 19:03.
857
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:47,999
It did explode 38
minutes into the flight.
858
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:48,760
It did explode 38
minutes into the flight.
859
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,920
It must have been put onto
the plane at Heathrow.
860
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,960
One of Bedford's suitcases?
861
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,720
Why is no one challenging this?
862
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,160
It's too much of a coincidence.
863
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:03,999
Surely it was an ice cube timer.
864
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,280
Surely it was an ice cube timer.
865
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,999
T-13 would be much more
accurate, because...
866
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:12,720
T-13 would be much more
accurate, because...
867
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,760
The plane exploded
after...
868
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,999
What on earth is going on?
869
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:20,680
What on earth is going on?
870
00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:22,600
It must have been
an ice cube timer.
871
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,000
What about Bedford's suitcases?
872
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,160
Jim, Jim, sit down.
873
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,999
Come on.
874
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:36,120
Come on.
875
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,080
Will the
court please disregard
876
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,320
this unfortunate interruption?
877
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,520
Come back. Please continue.
878
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:44,000
Thank you, my Lord.
879
00:52:44,001 --> 00:52:45,720
Thank you, my Lord.
880
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,800
You're OK.
881
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,999
Thomas Thurman, FBI
forensic scientist...
882
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,600
Thomas Thurman, FBI
forensic scientist...
883
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,880
Similar in all respects. I clearly
remember Murtagh telling us
884
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:47,999
we will get a conviction. Abu Talb now in
prison in Sweden, for a bombing attempt.
885
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,776
We will get a conviction. Abu Talb now in
prison in Sweden, for a bombing attempt.
886
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,960
Found in the cover. Affiliated to
the PFLP-GC, who wanted revenge.
887
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,999
The bomb would've exploded on the first
flight. Malta, Frankfurt, Heathrow.
888
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,616
The bomb would've exploded on the first
flight. Malta, Frankfurt, Heathrow.
889
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,960
I keep coming back to
Heathrow. Two new suitcases.
890
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,320
Was it put on board
the plane at Heathrow?
891
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,880
What happened to meeting
me at the airport? Jane...
892
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,160
What's wrong?
893
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,600
Where do I start?
894
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:44,000
They didn't do it. They didn't
put that bomb on the plane.
895
00:54:44,001 --> 00:54:46,440
They didn't do it. They didn't
put that bomb on the plane.
896
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,800
Of course they did. What
are you talking about?
897
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,840
We've gone through the
whole case over and over.
898
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:51,999
We've torn it apart,
put it back together.
899
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,640
We've torn it apart,
put it back together.
900
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:55,720
Worked it all out.
901
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,000
They've been set up.
902
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,040
They've been framed.
903
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,920
The whole case against them
is a fiction. It's a lie.
904
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,360
They're innocent.
905
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,040
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