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I thought Iran did it. 11 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,760 This is absolutely central to the Crown's prosecution case. 12 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,999 We are proposing the trial be held in a neutral country. 13 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:16,200 We are proposing the trial be held in a neutral country. 14 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,920 I only want to know who killed my daughter. 15 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:21,160 You accept the verdict, whatever it is, 16 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:23,840 ..and we get you back. 17 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:24,000 I promise. 18 00:01:24,001 --> 00:01:25,080 I promise. 19 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:43,999 The top stories in Scotland today. 20 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,016 The top stories in Scotland today. 21 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,720 Trial of the century opens... 22 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,680 It's being called the trial of the century. 23 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,640 ..finally are standing trial... 24 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,960 Behind me is Camp Zeist, a former military base 25 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,999 outside Utrecht, converted at a cost of £12 million. 26 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,360 Outside Utrecht, converted at a cost of £12 million. 27 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,760 On a tiny patch of Dutch soil, designated as Scotland. 28 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,480 There is no jury. 29 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:08,000 Instead, four Scottish Law Lords will pass judgment... 30 00:03:08,001 --> 00:03:10,440 Instead, four Scottish Law Lords will pass judgment... 31 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,680 27 American families are here, 32 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,880 along with a smaller group... This is our daughter, Theo Cohen. 33 00:03:15,920 --> 00:03:16,000 She was only 20 years old when her plane 34 00:03:16,001 --> 00:03:18,040 She was only 20 years old when her plane 35 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,520 - was blown up over Lockerbie. - It's going to be difficult 36 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,720 to prove the case against two Libyans, but that is not important to me. 37 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,000 I'll just be happy to see them in court. 38 00:03:24,001 --> 00:03:25,760 I'll just be happy to see them in court. 39 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,560 It's important that we live in a society where the legal system 40 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,840 cannot be manipulated for political ends. 41 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:31,999 My brother and the others killed cannot demand the justice 42 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,136 My brother and the others killed cannot demand the justice 43 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,480 they are due. So we must speak for them. 44 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,800 The prosecution must prove beyond all reasonable doubt 45 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:39,999 that they were responsible for the bombing of Flight 103. 46 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,576 That they were responsible for the bombing of Flight 103. 47 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,480 'I have every faith that they will do so.' 48 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:02,880 So good to see you. 49 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:03,999 Your attention for a moment, folks. 50 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,256 Your attention for a moment, folks. 51 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,800 Uh, Brian Murtagh, US Department of Justice. 52 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,999 Uh, my colleague Dana is right now handing around copies 53 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:12,720 Uh, my colleague Dana is right now handing around copies 54 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,720 of the prosecution witness list. 55 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,240 One thousand witnesses to get through. 56 00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:19,120 Any questions, we're right here. 57 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,920 Honour to meet you, sir. Pleasure. 58 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,960 Um, how often will you be coming to the trial? 59 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,800 John and I are here representing the UK Families Group. 60 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:33,520 We'll be here every day until the verdict is announced. 61 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,120 I admire your dedication. 62 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:36,000 How long do you think the trial will take? 63 00:04:36,001 --> 00:04:38,040 How long do you think the trial will take? 64 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,480 It's hard to say, ma'am. Uh... 65 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,720 Six months... maybe more. 66 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:43,999 But be in no doubt, no matter how long it takes, 67 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,696 But be in no doubt, no matter how long it takes, 68 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,480 these men are guilty, and we will get a conviction. 69 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,960 Ladies and gentlemen, 70 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,000 the court will shortly be convening. 71 00:04:52,001 --> 00:04:53,480 The court will shortly be convening. 72 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:59,040 The press gallery is to the left, ladies and gentlemen. 73 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,040 Sick! 74 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,920 Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi 75 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:27,999 and Al Amin Khalifa Fhimah, 76 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,600 and Al Amin Khalifa Fhimah, 77 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,240 you are both charged with conspiring together 78 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:35,720 to place onboard Pan Am Flight 103 79 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:36,000 a suitcase containing an improvised explosive device. 80 00:06:36,001 --> 00:06:40,080 A suitcase containing an improvised explosive device. 81 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,320 Having tagged the suitcase to travel unaccompanied 82 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:44,000 from Malta airport to Frankfurt airport, 83 00:06:44,001 --> 00:06:46,600 from Malta airport to Frankfurt airport, 84 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,640 via London Heathrow to New York, 85 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,999 which exploded in mid-air over Lockerbie, Scotland, 86 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:52,440 which exploded in mid-air over Lockerbie, Scotland, 87 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:57,840 resulting in the murder of 259 passengers and crew, 88 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,999 and 11 people on the ground. 89 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,120 And 11 people on the ground. 90 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:06,040 My Lord, the accused plead not guilty. 91 00:07:08,280 --> 00:07:11,360 The witness schedule reads as follows. Number one... 92 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,800 - Well, enjoy your stay. - Thank you. 93 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:25,960 Alright. 94 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:03,999 Can I now take you back to the events 95 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:04,280 Can I now take you back to the events 96 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,960 of the 21st of December, 1988? 97 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,999 I-I saw a wing, the whole of the wing. 98 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,376 I-I saw a wing, the whole of the wing. 99 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,960 A silhouette against the skies coming towards us. 100 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,999 I followed it all the way until it, uh... 101 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:20,840 I followed it all the way until it, uh... 102 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,000 disappeared behind the buildings, and I saw the... 103 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,520 ..explosion of flames rise up. 104 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,960 It was like the world was on fire. 105 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,000 Uh, thick smoke, fire everywhere. 106 00:08:36,001 --> 00:08:39,640 Uh, thick smoke, fire everywhere. 107 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,480 The overpowering smell of engine fuel. 108 00:08:44,680 --> 00:08:48,120 The sound of screaming and, uh... 109 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,120 ..objects and... 110 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,160 ..people falling out of the sky. 111 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,960 We had, first of all, to look for any passengers 112 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,120 that might be in need of medical attention. 113 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,999 There were none. 114 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:08,040 There were none. 115 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,440 Bodies were recovered and... body parts. 116 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,320 Many. 117 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,760 If-If you come out my house, 118 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:22,280 ..you go down some steps, and... 119 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,000 ..just to the left of it, four or five feet away from the steps... 120 00:09:24,001 --> 00:09:26,840 ..just to the left of it, four or five feet away from the steps... 121 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,360 ..there was a young lady lying there. 122 00:09:33,560 --> 00:09:35,320 There were bodies... 123 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,440 ..everywhere... 124 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:39,999 Men, women, children. 125 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,240 Men, women, children. 126 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,360 There was one outside my house... 127 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,000 ..a baby. 128 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:53,600 There were more... 129 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:55,999 ..on the pavement... 130 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,120 ..on the pavement... 131 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,760 on the golf course... 132 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,120 ..in hedges. 133 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:03,999 They were unrecognizable. 134 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,000 They were unrecognizable. 135 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,840 The whole town was in shock for a long time. 136 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:12,000 I know one young man done away with himself. 137 00:10:12,001 --> 00:10:14,680 I know one young man done away with himself. 138 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,999 It affected a lot of people... 139 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,200 It affected a lot of people... 140 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,120 ..for a long time. 141 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,120 People come from across the world to... 142 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,000 ..visit the memorial, to remember their parent or... 143 00:10:28,001 --> 00:10:30,640 ..visit the memorial, to remember their parent or... 144 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,520 Uh... sister... 145 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:35,999 ..or a child. 146 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,200 ..or a child. 147 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,200 And some of them ask to visit the place 148 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:43,999 where their loved one, um... 149 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:44,360 where their loved one, um... 150 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,000 where the body was found. 151 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,480 And so you find yourself taking someone you don't know... 152 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,720 ..a stranger... 153 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:56,160 ..to show them the place. 154 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,999 But in a way, they're not strangers. 155 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:00,720 But in a way, they're not strangers. 156 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,360 It's our duty... 157 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,080 ..to welcome them, to say... 158 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,999 "We know what it feels like." 159 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:08,320 "We know what it feels like." 160 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:54,560 You alright? 161 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,520 Hearing all that today... 162 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:02,960 what she must have gone through. 163 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,000 And I still don't know where she fell. 164 00:12:04,001 --> 00:12:05,296 And I still don't know where she fell. 165 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:06,920 Where she was found. 166 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,200 I'm not sure what good it would do. 167 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,000 Why didn't I come to the ice rink with you? 168 00:12:12,001 --> 00:12:13,681 Why didn't I come to the ice rink with you? 169 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,280 How cowardly was I? 170 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,999 Those poor people in Lockerbie. They never asked for any of this. 171 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,560 Those poor people in Lockerbie. They never asked for any of this. 172 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:27,999 Did they do it? 173 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Did they do it? 174 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,560 I watched them so closely. 175 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:36,000 Not a flicker of anything. 176 00:12:36,001 --> 00:12:37,041 Not a flicker of anything. 177 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,760 Yes, I think they did. 178 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:44,000 Everything points to them. 179 00:12:44,001 --> 00:12:45,080 Everything points to them. 180 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,360 Thank you. 181 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,600 Give my love to Catherine and William. 182 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:08,000 Why don't you do it yourself, Jim? Just pick up the phone. 183 00:13:08,001 --> 00:13:10,760 Why don't you do it yourself, Jim? Just pick up the phone. 184 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,800 Look after yourself. You, too. 185 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,360 The press centre's like a desert. 186 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:44,000 Thought I'd get closer to the action. 187 00:14:44,001 --> 00:14:45,176 Thought I'd get closer to the action. 188 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,999 He's looking mighty confident. 189 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,200 He's looking mighty confident. 190 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,160 When a bomb explodes, it generates 191 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,999 intense heat and sends out tiny shards... 192 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,136 intense heat and sends out tiny shards... 193 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,920 ..from whichever housing it is lodged in. 194 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,800 That is what we were initially searching for. 195 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,999 Parts of the explosive device lodged in charred and damaged clothing 196 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,536 Parts of the explosive device lodged in charred and damaged clothing 197 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,520 that would have been near or around the bomb. 198 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,320 After several months examining debris, 199 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:16,000 I found a blast-damaged electronic fragment 200 00:15:16,001 --> 00:15:19,800 I found a blast-damaged electronic fragment 201 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,040 lodged inside the charred remains of a shirt. 202 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,800 My Lords, the fragment is on the evidence table 203 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,040 but for the purposes of clarity, 204 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,720 we will now show an enlarged image of it. 205 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,200 Dr Hayes, you identified this fragment as being significant. 206 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:39,999 I understood it to be significant. Yes. 207 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,056 I understood it to be significant. Yes. 208 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,280 But I had left RARDE before it was identified. 209 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,320 I was succeeded by my colleague, Allen Feraday 210 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,999 with whom I published the final forensic report. 211 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,736 With whom I published the final forensic report. 212 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,600 This fragment seemed to be the only part 213 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,999 of the circuit board from the timer 214 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:56,320 of the circuit board from the timer 215 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,040 which detonated the bomb aboard Flight 103. 216 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,960 Were you able to identify what kind of timer it was from? 217 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,520 Not initially. No. 218 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,200 It was a bit of a needle in a haystack. 219 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,600 There are thousands of companies worldwide 220 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:11,999 which manufacture circuit boards. 221 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:12,880 Which manufacture circuit boards. 222 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,680 But finally, a year later, another forensic colleague 223 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,999 in the United States, Thomas Thurman of the FBI, 224 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:20,320 in the United States, Thomas Thurman of the FBI, 225 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,040 found a match. 226 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,840 Can you tell the court how exactly the circuit board was identified? 227 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:27,999 The fragment materials and tracking pattern 228 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,440 The fragment materials and tracking pattern 229 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,680 were extensively compared with circuit boards within timers, 230 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:35,999 which the FBI had recovered a few years previously, 231 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,976 which the FBI had recovered a few years previously, 232 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:43,120 of a type called MST-13, which was designed and manufactured 233 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,000 by a Swiss company called MEBO, based in Zurich. 234 00:16:44,001 --> 00:16:47,880 By a Swiss company called MEBO, based in Zurich. 235 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,920 And from whom were those timers seized? 236 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:51,999 Agents of the JSO. 237 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,120 Agents of the JSO. 238 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,760 The Libyan Intelligence agency. 239 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:58,680 And you were entirely satisfied 240 00:16:58,720 --> 00:16:59,999 they were the exact same model of circuit board? 241 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,616 They were the exact same model of circuit board? 242 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,480 It was conclusively established that the tracks 243 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,999 present on the fragment are of copper, 244 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:08,880 present on the fragment are of copper, 245 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,640 covered by a layer of pure tin. 246 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,560 Similar in all respects to the sample boards 247 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,000 obtained from MEBO. 248 00:17:16,001 --> 00:17:17,520 Obtained from MEBO. 249 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,400 It was truly amazing what the police did, Jane, 250 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:23,920 to find something so critical 251 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:24,000 among millions and millions of pieces of debris. 252 00:17:24,001 --> 00:17:27,280 Among millions and millions of pieces of debris. 253 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,720 That's amazing. It's incredible. 254 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:31,999 That fragment of circuit board is the first crucial link to Libya. 255 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,336 That fragment of circuit board is the first crucial link to Libya. 256 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:37,520 The prosecution will just have to prove 257 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,999 the fragment came from the same batch of timers sold to Libya. 258 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,440 The fragment came from the same batch of timers sold to Libya. 259 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,920 It's all about joining the dots. 260 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,999 The prosecution have to make a connection. 261 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:48,040 The prosecution have to make a connection. 262 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,480 Jim... 263 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,999 Jim... 264 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,160 Jim... 265 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,400 ..and prove them. 266 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,840 Oh, yes, I see. 267 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,640 How are you? 268 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:08,920 Are the kids OK at uni? 269 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,360 Yeah. No, I'm fine. Everyone's fine. Um... 270 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,080 So how's... Um, what's next? 271 00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:19,920 Star witness number one, Edwin Bollier. 272 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:20,000 He's basically an arms dealer. 273 00:18:20,001 --> 00:18:21,960 He's basically an arms dealer. 274 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,080 The prosecution need to get it on record 275 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:27,640 that the timers were supplied by his company. 276 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,280 I am the co-owner of MEBO, 277 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,800 a company which manufactures and sells 278 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:35,999 electronic and electrical components. 279 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,760 Electronic and electrical components. 280 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,960 Does that include timers such as the MST-13 that we see here? 281 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Yeah, that's correct. Yeah. 282 00:18:44,001 --> 00:18:45,081 Yeah, that's correct. Yeah. 283 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,400 Did your company manufacture and sell timers 284 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,280 such as these to the Libyan Intelligence agency? 285 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,320 I am a legitimate businessman. 286 00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,999 What I do is perfectly legal. 287 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,160 What I do is perfectly legal. 288 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:06,120 If you could just stick to answering the question, Mr Bollier. 289 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,000 Yes, we supplied Libya with 20 of these timers. 290 00:19:08,001 --> 00:19:11,960 Yes, we supplied Libya with 20 of these timers. 291 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,120 Libya are one of our best customers. 292 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,000 Mr Bollier, do you recognise either of the two men sitting in dock? 293 00:19:16,001 --> 00:19:20,680 Mr Bollier, do you recognise either of the two men sitting in dock? 294 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,999 I do not know the man on the right, but the man on the left, 295 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,536 I do not know the man on the right, but the man on the left, 296 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:30,480 I know he was a partner in ABH, 297 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:31,999 which is a Libyan company based in Zurich. 298 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,056 Which is a Libyan company based in Zurich. 299 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,680 I see. 300 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,800 And is it true Mr Megrahi's company 301 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,920 was based in the same building as your company? 302 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:40,000 Yeah. They rented office space from us. 303 00:19:40,001 --> 00:19:42,960 Yeah. They rented office space from us. 304 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,600 We were on the same floor. 305 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,999 Mr Bollier, did Mr Megrahi personally order 306 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:48,200 Mr Bollier, did Mr Megrahi personally order 307 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,400 the MST-13 timers from you? 308 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,000 No. My dealings were with friends of Megrahi. 309 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,999 But Megrahi had a... 310 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,120 But Megrahi had a... 311 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,560 had a high position, I'm sure of it. 312 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,080 He was always moving, you know. 313 00:20:18,120 --> 00:20:19,960 Zurich, Tripoli, Malta. 314 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,440 He was well-connected. 315 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,999 Can we bring up the timer fragment image PT35-B again, please? 316 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,440 Can we bring up the timer fragment image PT35-B again, please? 317 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,080 Mr Bollier? 318 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,240 Mr Bollier. Could the Crown counsel 319 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,320 have your full attention? What is this? 320 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:43,999 This is the fragment found at the Lockerbie crash. 321 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:44,800 This is the fragment found at the Lockerbie crash. 322 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,440 No, this is not the same fragment. 323 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:51,999 Mr Bollier, it was confirmed by two forensic scientists. 324 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:52,040 Mr Bollier, it was confirmed by two forensic scientists. 325 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,360 One from RARDE, one from the FBI. No, it looks similar, 326 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,280 but this is not the same fragment. 327 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,999 My company did not sell this, I can assure you. 328 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:00,560 My company did not sell this, I can assure you. 329 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,480 So, maybe it's a counterfeit? 330 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,840 How can it be a counterfeit? 331 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,560 It's been in police custody since it was discovered. 332 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:08,000 May I examine the actual physical fragment? 333 00:21:08,001 --> 00:21:11,080 May I examine the actual physical fragment? 334 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,440 Hm? 335 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,600 There. 336 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,080 Well, Mr Bollier? 337 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:47,999 I am right. 338 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:48,120 I am right. 339 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,680 This is not the same fragment that I was shown in Scotland. 340 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,360 What's he doing? He's trying to distance himself. 341 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,200 Of course he is. Clearly panicking. 342 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,840 Probably afraid he'll get sued. 343 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,920 All he's bothered about is his company's reputation 344 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:04,000 and saving his own skin. 345 00:22:04,001 --> 00:22:05,640 And saving his own skin. 346 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:10,320 ..in 1999, as being made by your company. 347 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,440 Bearing in mind... 348 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:19,400 that scientific tests were made, 349 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,000 can you confirm that this fragment of circuit board 350 00:22:20,001 --> 00:22:22,840 can you confirm that this fragment of circuit board 351 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,000 was part of a batch of 20 timers bought by the Libyans? 352 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,000 A batch of timers you delivered to Libyan Intelligence personally. 353 00:22:28,001 --> 00:22:31,240 A batch of timers you delivered to Libyan Intelligence personally. 354 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,240 I remind you, you're under oath. 355 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:55,640 Yes. 356 00:22:56,360 --> 00:22:59,200 You travelled to Tripoli with them in your possession? 357 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,000 Yes. You took them to the headquarters 358 00:23:00,001 --> 00:23:01,520 Yes. You took them to the headquarters 359 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,560 of Libyan Intelligence in Tripoli? Yes. 360 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,560 And whilst you were there, you witnessed 361 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,999 trials involving some of those timers. 362 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:08,720 Trials involving some of those timers. 363 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,440 Correct, Mr Bollier? 364 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:14,160 Yes. 365 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,000 Hm. Thank you, Mr Bollier. 366 00:23:16,001 --> 00:23:18,040 Hm. Thank you, Mr Bollier. 367 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,720 Big day tomorrow. Star witness number two. 368 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,040 Yep. 369 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,000 Tony Gauci. Owns a clothes shop. 370 00:23:40,001 --> 00:23:43,040 Tony Gauci. Owns a clothes shop. 371 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,120 Mary's House. Sliema, Malta. 372 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,000 The indictment states that the clothes wrapped around the bomb 373 00:23:48,001 --> 00:23:50,441 The indictment states that the clothes wrapped around the bomb 374 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,120 which brought down Flight 103 were bought from his shop. 375 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,400 And in the collar of the shirt, the forensics guy, 376 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,320 Hayes, found this. 377 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,000 When they interviewed him, 378 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,440 Gauci remembered the Libyan customer he'd sold the clothes to. 379 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,000 The prosecution need Tony Gauci to link 380 00:24:12,001 --> 00:24:15,040 The prosecution need Tony Gauci to link 381 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,200 one of the suspects to the bomb. 382 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,000 Mr Gauci... 383 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:20,760 Mr Gauci... 384 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,120 at the beginning of September, 1989, 385 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,560 did Scottish police visit your shop in Sliema, Malta? 386 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:27,999 Yes. Detective Harry Bell from Scotland came to see me. 387 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,160 Yes. Detective Harry Bell from Scotland came to see me. 388 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,080 And were you asked about a particular sale of clothing 389 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:34,800 you had made in December, 1988? 390 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:35,999 Yes, I told them about a man... 391 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,200 Yes, I told them about a man... 392 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,880 A customer who had bought clothes from my shop. 393 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,160 And were you able to remember when 394 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,000 that particular sale had taken place? 395 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:44,960 That particular sale had taken place? 396 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,200 Uh... 397 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,400 It was slightly before Christmas. 398 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,040 It was raining. 399 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:52,000 I do not remember the exact date. It was so long ago. 400 00:24:52,001 --> 00:24:56,040 I do not remember the exact date. It was so long ago. 401 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,880 Of course, I understand. 402 00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:59,999 Now, this man to whom you sold the clothing... 403 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,176 Now, this man to whom you sold the clothing... 404 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,440 did you recognise his nationality? 405 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,000 Oh. 406 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,000 To me, he was a Libyan. 407 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,000 Are you familiar from experience in your shop and in Malta with Libyans? 408 00:25:08,001 --> 00:25:11,920 Are you familiar from experience in your shop and in Malta with Libyans? 409 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,320 Oh. 410 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:15,999 Many Libyan men fly to Malta for business and for pleasure. 411 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,320 Many Libyan men fly to Malta for business and for pleasure. 412 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,760 They are able to do things in Malta that are forbidden in Libya. 413 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:24,000 Mr Gauci, where do you source these shirts from? 414 00:25:24,001 --> 00:25:27,040 Mr Gauci, where do you source these shirts from? 415 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,840 Malta. Only Malta. 416 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,000 I have dealt with Slalom, the manufacturer, for many years. 417 00:25:32,001 --> 00:25:34,880 I have dealt with Slalom, the manufacturer, for many years. 418 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,240 Now, Mr Gauci, I want you to take a moment to look around 419 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:39,999 the courtroom and tell me if you see the man 420 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:40,120 the courtroom and tell me if you see the man 421 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,360 who bought the clothes from you in December, 1988. 422 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,840 He is the man... on this side. 423 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:12,000 Which man are you pointing at? 424 00:26:12,001 --> 00:26:14,120 Which man are you pointing at? 425 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,240 Uh, not that one. The one on the left. 426 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,999 That is the man who resembles the man who came to my shop. 427 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:20,680 That is the man who resembles the man who came to my shop. 428 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,400 You're certain about this? 429 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,840 This man here on the left is the man you identified 430 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,480 for Detective Harry Bell? 431 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,000 Yes, I identified this man from photographs and in identity parades. 432 00:26:28,001 --> 00:26:31,360 Yes, I identified this man from photographs and in identity parades. 433 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,960 And I remember, 434 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,999 it did not seem important to him what he was buying. 435 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,240 It did not seem important to him what he was buying. 436 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,040 He said to me, "None of these clothes are for me." 437 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:44,000 Thank you, Mr Gauci. 438 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:44,760 Thank you, Mr Gauci. 439 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:51,999 Four months in, and you haven't missed a day. 440 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:52,560 Four months in, and you haven't missed a day. 441 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,400 You're as good as your word, Jim. 442 00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,960 You don't think it's odd? 443 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,800 The DOJ is not part of the trial, yet they're here every single day. 444 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,840 They have every right. 445 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:07,999 They dropped the indictment. 446 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,120 They dropped the indictment. 447 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,280 There are Libyan officials here, too. 448 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,840 A bit too pally with the prosecution, if you ask me. 449 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,400 Mr Gauci, I noticed during the Crown's questioning, 450 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,999 Mr Campbell omitted to mention exactly how many interviews 451 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,136 Mr Campbell omitted to mention exactly how many interviews 452 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,200 you conducted with Detective Harry Bell and the Scottish police. 453 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,600 Can you remember? 454 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,000 Uh... no, I cannot. 455 00:27:32,001 --> 00:27:34,280 Uh... no, I cannot. 456 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,760 Eighteen interviews 457 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,320 and 19 statements, Mr Gauci. Eighteen? 458 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,880 You gave 19 sworn statements. 459 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,999 In truth, Mr Gauci, you've had considerable difficulty 460 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:48,880 In truth, Mr Gauci, you've had considerable difficulty 461 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,000 identifying Mr Megrahi before, haven't you? 462 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,480 No, I- In the statement I have here... 463 00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:55,999 ..you described the clothes purchaser as, I quote... 464 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,040 ..you described the clothes purchaser as, I quote... 465 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,600 "Around 50, and six feet tall." 466 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,999 Of course, Mr Megrahi is 48. 467 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,440 Of course, Mr Megrahi is 48. 468 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,800 Which means that in December, 1988, 469 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,000 when you say you sold him the clothes, he was... 470 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,840 36 years old. 471 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,040 And here you list the items 472 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,999 you claim the clothes purchaser bought from you. 473 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:20,880 You claim the clothes purchaser bought from you. 474 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,720 Trousers, pullover, jacket, babygro... 475 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,000 ..but no shirt. 476 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,000 ..but no shirt. 477 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:33,320 No mention of a shirt, Slalom or otherwise. 478 00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:35,999 In fact, no mention of any shirt until statement number 17. 479 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,200 In fact, no mention of any shirt until statement number 17. 480 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,720 What are we to make of that? 481 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,999 Did the clothes purchaser buy a shirt from you or not? 482 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,240 Did the clothes purchaser buy a shirt from you or not? 483 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,320 It was a long time ago to remember. 484 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,720 Of course. Mr Bell was interviewing you a whole two years 485 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,999 after the tragedy happened. Anyone would have difficulty 486 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,096 after the tragedy happened. Anyone would have difficulty 487 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,880 remembering anything after that long, would they not? 488 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,560 Yes, that is it. Exactly. 489 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,360 Thank you, my Lord. 490 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,840 'The man was nervous. 491 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:23,999 And clearly muddled. 492 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,920 And clearly muddled. 493 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,640 Yet there he was, billed as a star witness. Christ!' 494 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,440 Eighteen interviews, 19 statements. 495 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,999 Did the police just keep going back to him until they got 496 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,056 Did the police just keep going back to him until they got 497 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,160 the story they wanted? I don't know what the hell the prosecution were doing. 498 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,520 Did they just hope the defence wouldn't bring all that up? 499 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,999 It just smacks of incompetence. 500 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:40,720 It just smacks of incompetence. 501 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,680 Yeah. Well, I did a bit more digging when I went back to my hotel room. 502 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,400 It was not only Megrahi 503 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,000 that Gauci identified to Detective Bell 504 00:29:48,001 --> 00:29:49,496 that Gauci identified to Detective Bell 505 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,680 as the man that he sold the clothes to. 506 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,520 So, a year and a half before he identified Megrahi... 507 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:56,000 ..Gauci mentioned a Mr Mohammed Abu Talb, 508 00:29:56,001 --> 00:29:59,800 ..Gauci mentioned a Mr Mohammed Abu Talb, 509 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,920 ..a convicted Palestinian terrorist and one of the Scottish police's 510 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:04,000 initial suspects for the bombing. 511 00:30:04,001 --> 00:30:06,480 Initial suspects for the bombing. 512 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,720 Now, is there an Iranian connection? 513 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,999 A Syrian connection? A Palestinian connection? 514 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:12,640 A Syrian connection? A Palestinian connection? 515 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,280 Has there always been? 516 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,560 You need to get a picture of Talb up there, by the way. 517 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,999 Look, I'm just asking the question, Jim, because suddenly there's a whole lot more of them. 518 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,560 Look, I'm just asking the question, Jim, because suddenly there's a whole lot more of them. 519 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,999 Megrahi, he's linked to Bollier, and the MEBO timer. 520 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,296 Megrahi, he's linked to Bollier, and the MEBO timer. 521 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,520 Timers are sold to Libya by MEBO. 522 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,560 Megrahi's probably JSO. 523 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:35,999 Megrahi was Head of Airline Security for Libyan Arab Airlines. 524 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,376 Megrahi was Head of Airline Security for Libyan Arab Airlines. 525 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,080 Fhimah their station manager on Malta. 526 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,999 Megrahi travelled to Malta, using a passport under a false name 527 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:44,640 Megrahi travelled to Malta, using a passport under a false name 528 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,840 issued to him by the Libyan government. 529 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,160 And then he lied about ever having been there. 530 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,999 Fhimah wrote in his diary to procure Air Malta tags 531 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,256 Fhimah wrote in his diary to procure Air Malta tags 532 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,160 for Megrahi on December 15th. 533 00:30:58,520 --> 00:30:59,999 There's still a hell of a lot stacked against them. 534 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,000 There's still a hell of a lot stacked against them. 535 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,400 You've reached the Swire household. 536 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,280 We're not home to take your call at the moment. 537 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,999 Please leave a message after the beep and we'll get back to you. 538 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,176 Please leave a message after the beep and we'll get back to you. 539 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,000 'Hello, Jane, it's me. 540 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,999 I suppose you must be out somewhere. 541 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:32,040 I suppose you must be out somewhere. 542 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,120 We are four months into the trial now, and... 543 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,760 and things have... 544 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,800 Well, things could be going better.' 545 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,960 Mrs Walker, I'm Jane... 546 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,000 I know who you are. 547 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,000 I know who you are. 548 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,400 Then you'll know why I've come. 549 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,680 Here. 550 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,200 This is Beechgrove. 551 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,040 This is where they found Flora. 552 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,000 I'll let you... 553 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,000 I'll let you... 554 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,360 I love you so much. I love you so much. 555 00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:48,080 I love you. I love you, Flora. 556 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,200 I love you so much. 557 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,440 Star witness number three. The super grass. 558 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,999 My Lords, every precaution must be taken to ensure Mr Giaka's safety. 559 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,896 My Lords, every precaution must be taken to ensure Mr Giaka's safety. 560 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,520 Therefore, the recording of his voice will be distorted, 561 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,400 so as to avoid recognition 562 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,999 and the operator of the closed circuit television cameras 563 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,056 and the operator of the closed circuit television cameras 564 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,520 has been directed not to film at any time 565 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,200 whilst he is giving evidence. 566 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,999 I became a CIA informant, 567 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,120 I became a CIA informant, 568 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,800 because I no longer wanted to work for the Libyan Intelligence. 569 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,280 Because of their involvement in terrorism. 570 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,680 I wanted to get out of Libya and live a normal life. 571 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,440 Mr Giaka, in March 1986, 572 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,999 you were an employee of Libyan Arab Airlines at Malta airport, 573 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,240 you were an employee of Libyan Arab Airlines at Malta airport, 574 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,360 where you worked under Mr Megrahi and Mr Fhimah. Yes? 575 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,000 Yes. Megrahi was the head of security for LAA, 576 00:37:48,001 --> 00:37:50,760 Yes. Megrahi was the head of security for LAA, 577 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,680 and Fhimah was the station manager. 578 00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:55,440 Now, you told your CIA handler 579 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:56,000 that you wrote an intelligence report for the JSO, 580 00:37:56,001 --> 00:37:57,816 that you wrote an intelligence report for the JSO, 581 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,320 the Libyan Intelligence service, around that time. 582 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,880 Yes, I did. 583 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,999 What was this intelligence report about? 584 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,600 What was this intelligence report about? 585 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,000 Well, it outlined in detail how a person could place 586 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,920 an unaccompanied bag onboard an airline flight. 587 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:18,360 That was two to three months after the US attack on Tripoli in 1986. 588 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:20,000 Many civilians and soldiers were killed, and the JSO were furious. 589 00:38:20,001 --> 00:38:25,360 Many civilians and soldiers were killed, and the JSO were furious. 590 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,999 They declared that Libya would have revenge. 591 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,616 They declared that Libya would have revenge. 592 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,120 And what did your report conclude? 593 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,160 It concluded that, yes, it could be easily done. 594 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,000 To whom did you submit this report? 595 00:38:36,001 --> 00:38:37,520 To whom did you submit this report? 596 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,200 To the Head of Airline Security, Abdelbaset Megrahi. 597 00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:47,920 You shared an office with Mr Fhimah at Malta airport. 598 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,000 Is that correct? Yes. I did. 599 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,000 Could you tell the court what Mr Fhimah showed you 600 00:38:52,001 --> 00:38:54,120 Could you tell the court what Mr Fhimah showed you 601 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,760 was hidden inside his desk in March 1986? 602 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,000 Ten kilos of TNT, brought to the airport office by Mr Megrahi. 603 00:39:00,001 --> 00:39:04,360 Ten kilos of TNT, brought to the airport office by Mr Megrahi. 604 00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:07,040 And LAA rush tags. 605 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,000 Could you explain to the court what rush tags are? 606 00:39:08,001 --> 00:39:09,736 Could you explain to the court what rush tags are? 607 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,240 Certainly. Rush tags are used to allow 608 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,440 baggages onto planes unaccompanied. 609 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,000 I see. 610 00:39:16,001 --> 00:39:17,120 I see. 611 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:22,080 Now, if we could move forward to the evening of December 20th, 1988, 612 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,999 the night before the crash. 613 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:24,800 The night before the crash. 614 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,880 I saw Megrahi with Fhimah 615 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,920 in the baggage arrival area at Malta Airport. 616 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:32,000 And where did they take this suitcase? 617 00:39:32,001 --> 00:39:34,000 And where did they take this suitcase? 618 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,880 Towards Customs. And was the suitcase 619 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,360 opened for inspection? No, it was not. 620 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,999 So they just walked through? 621 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:40,320 So they just walked through? 622 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,920 Yes. Thank you, Mr Giaka. 623 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,999 The JSO are a merciless organization. 624 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,440 The JSO are a merciless organization. 625 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,840 Would you agree? Oh, yes. 626 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,960 Are you in fear of your life because of them, Mr Giaka? 627 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,520 Yes, I am. 628 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,720 Little wonder then you wanted to get out of Libya 629 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,840 to live a normal life elsewhere. 630 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,999 In fact, you wanted to live a normal life in America, did you not? 631 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,760 In fact, you wanted to live a normal life in America, did you not? 632 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,040 Yes. You asked the CIA several times 633 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,800 for money to help you emigrate. 634 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,680 Yes, I did. 635 00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:16,480 What was their answer? 636 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,680 They said no. 637 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,520 But you were a valued informant. Did you demand an explanation why? 638 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:33,200 Well, let me read to you what your CIA case officer wrote about you. 639 00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:35,800 It might explain their heartless decision. 640 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,320 "Giaka will be advised in no uncertain terms 641 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,920 on the 4th of September that we will not provide 642 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,999 any additional financial assistance to him. 643 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:44,640 Any additional financial assistance to him. 644 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,840 We will only continue his $1,000 per month salary 645 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,480 through to the end of 1989. 646 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,999 If Giaka is not able to demonstrate 647 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:52,520 If Giaka is not able to demonstrate 648 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,040 sustained and defined access to information of intelligence value 649 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,999 by January of 1990, the CIA will cease 650 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:00,120 by January of 1990, the CIA will cease 651 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,640 all salary and financial support." 652 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,999 It seems the standard of information that you were giving them 653 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:08,920 It seems the standard of information that you were giving them 654 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,880 just was not good enough. 655 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,640 You had to do better, otherwise you were a waste of money. 656 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,999 I'm so sorry. Is something amusing you, Mr Giaka? 657 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:16,240 I'm so sorry. Is something amusing you, Mr Giaka? 658 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,880 You seem to be smiling. 659 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,880 Is it forbidden to smile? 660 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,560 That is entirely up to you. 661 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:24,000 But I do notice you keep looking to the back row 662 00:41:24,001 --> 00:41:25,960 But I do notice you keep looking to the back row 663 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:29,360 of the prosecution benches to the two American gentlemen there. 664 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,160 Why is that? 665 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,000 There's a man sitting there wearing spectacles. Do you know hm? 666 00:41:32,001 --> 00:41:34,720 There's a man sitting there wearing spectacles. Do you know hm? 667 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,200 What the hell is going on? 668 00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:46,000 Brian Murtagh. 669 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,999 So, whose evidence have we been hearing today? 670 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,576 So, whose evidence have we been hearing today? 671 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,120 Yours or your friend's, Brian Murtagh? 672 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,240 Holy shit. 673 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,999 Why is the CIA informant on first name terms 674 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,360 Why is the CIA informant on first name terms 675 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,840 with the Department of Justice? Who's pulling Giaka's strings here? 676 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,880 Fucked up. See, I put it to you, Mr Giaka, 677 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:03,999 that all this security protection 678 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,016 that all this security protection 679 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,320 is a charade to deceive us into thinking that you are genuine. 680 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,880 Those screens around you obscure the truth. 681 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:11,999 My Lords, Mr Keen is going too far. You didn't come forward 682 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,616 My Lords, Mr Keen is going too far. You didn't come forward 683 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,640 with this evidence after Flight 103 came down, did you? 684 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,360 No. You came forward years later, 685 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,999 after your friends at the CIA told you to give them something bigger. 686 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,016 After your friends at the CIA told you to give them something bigger. 687 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,440 TNT, rush tags, Fhimah and Megrahi taking 688 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,600 a Samsonite suitcase through security. 689 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:28,000 Every single word you have said is made up. 690 00:42:28,001 --> 00:42:30,120 Every single word you have said is made up. 691 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:34,320 You are, in the CIA's own words, a shirker and a fantasist 692 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,999 who is just not worth investing in. 693 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,400 Who is just not worth investing in. 694 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,560 You're a fake and a liar. 695 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,680 Thank you, my Lord. 696 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,560 It was always going to be a risk. 697 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,640 A risk? 698 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:16,000 This is a court of law. Giaka was paid for his evidence. 699 00:43:16,001 --> 00:43:18,440 This is a court of law. Giaka was paid for his evidence. 700 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,080 Let's let the judges decide. 701 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,600 He lied under oath. This will be declared a mistrial. 702 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,999 No, it won't. It damn well should be. 703 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,440 No, it won't. It damn well should be. 704 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,640 What do you want from this, Jim? Justice. 705 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,680 We all want justice. Everybody wants justice. 706 00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:32,000 How are you gonna get that without a fair trial? 707 00:43:32,001 --> 00:43:33,576 How are you gonna get that without a fair trial? 708 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,920 I don't call murdering 270 innocent people fair. Do you? Doesn't matter how you get 709 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,999 a conviction as long as you get one. Is that it? Those two men may be small cogs in a big machine, 710 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,336 a conviction as long as you get one. Is that it? Those two men may be small cogs in a big machine, 711 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,320 but I am telling you, they were part of this. 712 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,840 Because our governments decided they were? 713 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,560 This trial only happens once. 714 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,840 We got one shot to take down these Libyans. 715 00:43:55,240 --> 00:43:56,000 Do you want to come away from this with nothing? 716 00:43:56,001 --> 00:43:57,881 Do you want to come away from this with nothing? 717 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,240 There's no doubt that the clothes in the suitcase 718 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,280 containing the bomb were bought at this shop 719 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,960 called Mary's House, here in Malta. 720 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,680 The question is, who bought them? 721 00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:18,080 Mr Gauci won't talk to reporters, but his identification of al-Megrahi 722 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,999 is anything but convincing. 723 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,080 Is anything but convincing. 724 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,080 The prosecution case has taken a further blow 725 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,560 after the eyewitness testimony of a former intelligence agent, 726 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,000 who was previously employed by Libyan Arab Airlines, 727 00:44:28,001 --> 00:44:30,600 who was previously employed by Libyan Arab Airlines, 728 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,240 here at Malta airport. 729 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,999 Questions are now being asked as to what he stands to gain 730 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:36,080 Questions are now being asked as to what he stands to gain 731 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,240 by testifying, with claims being circulated 732 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,120 that he could receive up to $4 million. 733 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,999 The amount of the reward put up by the American government 734 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,416 The amount of the reward put up by the American government 735 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,960 for evidence which leads to a conviction of Megrahi and Fhimah. 736 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,400 ..at the moment. Please leave a message after the beep 737 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,680 and we'll get back to you. 738 00:44:57,720 --> 00:44:59,320 Hello, it's me. 739 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,160 I'm just calling to see how you all are. 740 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,280 And, um... 741 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,720 ..to let you know how things are here. 742 00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:02,720 First up today, witness for the prosecution. 743 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,120 John Bedford, a baggage handler from Heathrow. 744 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,880 The prosecution believe that Bedford 745 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,960 loaded the unaccompanied suitcase from Malta... 746 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,720 ..containing the bomb. 747 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,120 Were you on duty on the afternoon of 748 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,000 the 21st of December, 1988, Mr Bedford? 749 00:46:20,001 --> 00:46:21,800 The 21st of December, 1988, Mr Bedford? 750 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,440 Yes, sir. And do you remember 751 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,999 if any luggage arrived that was destined for Flight 103? 752 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:28,040 If any luggage arrived that was destined for Flight 103? 753 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,800 Yes. Yeah, it did. But not till later at the end of my shift. 754 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,240 I remember, cos I had my tea break first. 755 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,999 And how long were you away from the area? 756 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,280 And how long were you away from the area? 757 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,960 No more than half an hour. 758 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,240 And then you returned to resume work? 759 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,999 Yeah. Yeah. And that's when I saw them. 760 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,520 Yeah. Yeah. And that's when I saw them. 761 00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:50,000 Them? What do you mean, Mr Bedford? 762 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,360 There was two new suitcases 763 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,440 lying in the container when I... when I got back from my tea break. 764 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,920 I didn't put them there. 765 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,040 Two other suitcases? 766 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,760 I don't understand. 767 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,360 Did the prosecution not check this out before? 768 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:08,000 Did you see who put those two other suitcases into the container? 769 00:47:08,001 --> 00:47:11,000 Did you see who put those two other suitcases into the container? 770 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,520 No. No, I didn't. 771 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,720 Mr Bedford, is it conceivable 772 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,000 that persons other than you or your colleagues 773 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,000 could have put those suitcases into that container? 774 00:47:24,001 --> 00:47:25,616 Could have put those suitcases into that container? 775 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,960 Yeah. I mean, anyone that works at the airport. 776 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,560 Anyone? You are saying that anyone 777 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:31,999 who was airside could have done that? 778 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:32,240 Who was airside could have done that? 779 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,080 Yeah. For the avoidance of doubt, 780 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:39,520 these cases appeared before the Malta-Frankfurt flight arrived. 781 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,720 Yes, sir. 782 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:47,999 Can you describe these suitcases to the court? Yeah. 783 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,040 Can you describe these suitcases to the court? Yeah. 784 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,880 One was a brown colour. The other one, it was darker. 785 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,000 They were hard-shelled suitcases, same type that Samsonite make. 786 00:47:56,001 --> 00:47:59,560 They were hard-shelled suitcases, same type that Samsonite make. 787 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,000 That's the same as the Malta suitcase. 788 00:48:04,001 --> 00:48:05,481 That's the same as the Malta suitcase. 789 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,999 Bedford said his tea break lasted half an hour. 790 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,840 Bedford said his tea break lasted half an hour. 791 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,520 Which means there was no one around that container. 792 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:19,999 No security guards. 793 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:21,000 No security guards. 794 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:27,999 For all that time. 795 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,000 For all that time. 796 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,040 How did those cases get in there? 797 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,680 Who put them there? 798 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,999 Did Bedford maybe see the actual suitcase? 799 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:36,560 Did Bedford maybe see the actual suitcase? 800 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,000 He can't have done. The Frankfurt flight hadn't arrived yet. 801 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,280 Unless there was no bomb suitcase on that Frankfurt flight. 802 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,999 Well, that would destroy the whole case. 803 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:52,040 Well, that would destroy the whole case. 804 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,600 The entire basis of the trial. 805 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,040 After you. 806 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,120 Why are the Crown bringing in a German explosives expert? 807 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,760 I thought that was all done with? 808 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,600 So they can discredit the defence's theory. 809 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:40,000 Palestinian terrorists. 810 00:49:40,001 --> 00:49:41,320 Palestinian terrorists. 811 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,760 The Crown are running scared. They've got to shut it down. 812 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,600 Mr Gobel... 813 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:48,000 In October 1988, you examined some explosive devices 814 00:49:48,001 --> 00:49:51,680 In October 1988, you examined some explosive devices 815 00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:53,320 that had been seized in a raid 816 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,999 on the Palestinian terrorist organization PFLP-GC. 817 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:56,680 On the Palestinian terrorist organization PFLP-GC. 818 00:49:56,720 --> 00:49:59,000 Is that correct? Yes, that is correct. 819 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,920 And it has been claimed in various corners 820 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,999 that, in fact, one of those devices may have brought down Flight 103. 821 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,720 That, in fact, one of those devices may have brought down Flight 103. 822 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,400 Yes, this was an early theory with the German police, 823 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,520 but we came to believe that Flight 103 824 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:12,000 could not have been brought down by a PFLP-GC device. 825 00:50:12,001 --> 00:50:15,320 Could not have been brought down by a PFLP-GC device. 826 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,280 Can you tell us why? 827 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,999 The PFLP-GC use air pressure sensitive equipment. 828 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,536 The PFLP-GC use air pressure sensitive equipment. 829 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,440 A combination of a barometric switch... 830 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,999 In layman's terms, if you could, Mr Gobel. 831 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:28,560 In layman's terms, if you could, Mr Gobel. 832 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:33,280 Yeah. The PFLP-GC bombs were made up of three components: 833 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,760 a switch, a timer, and a detonator. 834 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:36,000 The switch's only job is to turn the timer on. 835 00:50:36,001 --> 00:50:39,560 The switch's only job is to turn the timer on. 836 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,200 And what triggers this is a fall in air pressure 837 00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:43,999 as a plane gains altitude. 838 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:44,200 As a plane gains altitude. 839 00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:48,640 It takes about seven minutes to detect this change. 840 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,999 The PFLP-GC at this time were known to use ice cube timers, 841 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,296 The PFLP-GC at this time were known to use ice cube timers, 842 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,800 so called because they resembled ice cubes. 843 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,240 Yeah. Once the switch turns them on, 844 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,640 the timer has an approximate run time of 30 minutes, 845 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:08,000 after which it triggers the detonator, 846 00:51:08,001 --> 00:51:09,840 after which it triggers the detonator, 847 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,120 which then causes the Semtex within the device to explode. 848 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,999 If a PFLP-GC device had been used to destroy Flight 103, 849 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,880 If a PFLP-GC device had been used to destroy Flight 103, 850 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,520 it would have exploded between 35 and 45 minutes 851 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:23,999 into its first flight. 852 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,000 Into its first flight. 853 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,680 Flight 103 could only have been brought down by this type of device 854 00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:31,999 if it had been primed or put on board at Heathrow. 855 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,960 If it had been primed or put on board at Heathrow. 856 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,360 The plane left Heathrow at 18:25 and it exploded at 19:03. 857 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:47,999 It did explode 38 minutes into the flight. 858 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:48,760 It did explode 38 minutes into the flight. 859 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,920 It must have been put onto the plane at Heathrow. 860 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,960 One of Bedford's suitcases? 861 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,720 Why is no one challenging this? 862 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,160 It's too much of a coincidence. 863 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:03,999 Surely it was an ice cube timer. 864 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,280 Surely it was an ice cube timer. 865 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,999 T-13 would be much more accurate, because... 866 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:12,720 T-13 would be much more accurate, because... 867 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,760 The plane exploded after... 868 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,999 What on earth is going on? 869 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:20,680 What on earth is going on? 870 00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:22,600 It must have been an ice cube timer. 871 00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,000 What about Bedford's suitcases? 872 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,160 Jim, Jim, sit down. 873 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,999 Come on. 874 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:36,120 Come on. 875 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,080 Will the court please disregard 876 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,320 this unfortunate interruption? 877 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,520 Come back. Please continue. 878 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:44,000 Thank you, my Lord. 879 00:52:44,001 --> 00:52:45,720 Thank you, my Lord. 880 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,800 You're OK. 881 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,999 Thomas Thurman, FBI forensic scientist... 882 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,600 Thomas Thurman, FBI forensic scientist... 883 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,880 Similar in all respects. I clearly remember Murtagh telling us 884 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:47,999 we will get a conviction. Abu Talb now in prison in Sweden, for a bombing attempt. 885 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,776 We will get a conviction. Abu Talb now in prison in Sweden, for a bombing attempt. 886 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,960 Found in the cover. Affiliated to the PFLP-GC, who wanted revenge. 887 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,999 The bomb would've exploded on the first flight. Malta, Frankfurt, Heathrow. 888 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,616 The bomb would've exploded on the first flight. Malta, Frankfurt, Heathrow. 889 00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,960 I keep coming back to Heathrow. Two new suitcases. 890 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,320 Was it put on board the plane at Heathrow? 891 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,880 What happened to meeting me at the airport? Jane... 892 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,160 What's wrong? 893 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,600 Where do I start? 894 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:44,000 They didn't do it. They didn't put that bomb on the plane. 895 00:54:44,001 --> 00:54:46,440 They didn't do it. They didn't put that bomb on the plane. 896 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,800 Of course they did. What are you talking about? 897 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,840 We've gone through the whole case over and over. 898 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:51,999 We've torn it apart, put it back together. 899 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,640 We've torn it apart, put it back together. 900 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:55,720 Worked it all out. 901 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,000 They've been set up. 902 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,040 They've been framed. 903 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,920 The whole case against them is a fiction. It's a lie. 904 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,360 They're innocent. 905 00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,040 Subtitles by Sky Access Services www.skyaccessibility.sky 68443

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