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- Well, when I was 17 I lost my virginity
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to a female extra-terrestrial.
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That's all I can say about it.
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- David opens his eyes,
only to see a pair of glowing eyes
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staring back at him.
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It was a little hairy guy,
and David is not afraid.
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He is very calm.
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Voice, "David, get dressed, come outside."
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Cut to David opening the front door.
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He see's the little hairy being,
his eyes glowing,
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voice, "Follow."
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David closes the door
behind him and follows.
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They cross the field into a line of trees.
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There is something on the ground,
it is glowing.
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They go over to it and go inside.
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There are three insect-like beings.
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The little hairy being,
two of the little men, and a woman.
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She is wearing a dark blue cloak.
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One of the insect beings
comes towards David.
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Voice, "Sit."
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"Remove clothing.
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"Lie down."
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David lies down on the bench.
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There is an orange
yellowish light comes on.
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David is looking at the light.
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It doesn't hurt his eyes.
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He is aware of the beings
that are standing over him.
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They are touching his body.
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David becomes aroused.
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The woman is there.
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She looks at David and
then eases on top of him.
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They watch as David and the woman have sex.
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Soon it is over.
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The woman looks at him,
a slight smile on her face.
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Woman, "Forget."
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David says, "Forget."
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My name is David Huggins, I'm 72 years old,
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and I live in Hoboken, New Jersey.
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Mm, yes.
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I do some writing, I'm writing a script.
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I have a part,
part-time job working at a deli,
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and then I come home and I paint.
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Would you like some coffee?
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I do meditation occasionally,
just to calm myself down.
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Ommm
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I throw the I Ching.
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There are dreams I'll have
which I just don't understand.
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And I'll ask the I Ching,
what is the meaning
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of the dream I had last night?
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Hmm, benefit increase.
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- What were you asking it?
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- What do they think of the documentary,
the beings.
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Let's put this over here.
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Pretty stable environment,
nothing out of the ordinary, no.
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Sometimes I go a few
days without eating a thing.
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And when I do eat, I make a lot.
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I've always enjoyed impressionistic art.
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Monet, Renoir, van Gogh.
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He was an expressionist, though.
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I mean, the style is very fluid,
very loose.
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Oh, it's just the colors.
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The colors are just incredible.
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Well, most of the paintings
I do are representative.
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I did landscapes, still lives, portraits.
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I'd say they're impressionist,
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but not really impressionistic.
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I don't know what you
would call them really.
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I've always liked this scene.
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This is one of my favorites,
Son of Frankenstein.
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I'm standing before a collection
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of science fiction horror movies.
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There's a couple of thousand VHS's here.
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I just like VHS.
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There's something about the tape rolling,
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you know, like a regular film.
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Let me see, Teenagers from Outer Space.
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This is from the 50s.
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Remember when they had
all those teenage movies?
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Oh, The Ghoul.
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Yes, with Boris Karloff.
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I mean, you got pimples
running up and down your spine.
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I mean, it's the atmosphere.
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Sssssss.
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It's about this scientist who
turns people into snakes.
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The ending is really a stopper.
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You see the guy, half snake half man.
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The Uninvited.
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Oh, this is very good.
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I think this is the greatest
ghost story ever made.
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- Does the
name have any meaning
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or relation to your encounters too?
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- No, they were always invited.
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One movie, it's a Doctor Who
movie with William Hartnell,
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and it's called The Web Planet.
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It has giant ants,
ant-like creatures in it.
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And when I saw it,
I just could not stop watching it.
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I don't know why,
but it seemed familiar to me.
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The Thing from Another World.
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A saucer crashes,
and they find a body frozen in the ice.
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It thaws out, and it starts killing people.
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I saw it when I was about
seven or eight years old.
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I grew up in Paulding County, Georgia.
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It was all farmland where I lived.
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There are vast areas that nobody lived in.
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We had a farm.
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I had to slop the pigs, cut the grass,
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carry in wood for the stove.
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I enjoyed it.
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My grandparents took me to tent revivals
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on several occasions.
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The preacher would come on,
hellfire and damnation.
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There was this woman there,
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she just started babbling
from what I could tell.
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I think it went on for like 15, 20 minutes,
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and then it stopped.
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You know, and it's like, what is this?
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It turned me off to religion big time.
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This is a rose bush that I brought
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up from Georgia many years ago.
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The blooms don't last very long,
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but the aroma fills the
whole back of the yard.
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I like going to fields
looking for arrowheads.
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I had quite a nice collection at one time.
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But that's gone.
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Basically, my heritage is English,
Choctaw, and Cherokee.
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Where our farm was, it was kind of weird,
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is that there was a lot
of arrowheads there.
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And I'm thinking at one
time it is where they lived.
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This is my mother and my father.
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That's my mother,
my brother, Marie, and me.
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This is me, from School Days.
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This was during the
time of my first encounter.
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My childhood was
strange to a certain extent.
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I was seeing things, and my parents didn't.
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Nobody in my family seemed
to see what I was seeing.
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My first encounter was
when I was eight years old.
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I was playing at the base of a tree,
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and I hear this voice say,
"David, behind you."
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And I turned around, and there is this
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little hairy guy with large glowing eyes
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coming straight toward me.
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I thought it was the Bogeyman.
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I didn't know what to think of it.
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What was interesting
is that for a split second
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I felt as if I was in his
eyes looking at me.
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Then I just freaked, and I ran to the barn,
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and I glanced back,
and the little hairy guy
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was turning around and
going back into the woods.
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The eyes were just glowing,
is the best way to put it.
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They just glowed.
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The next encounter,
I went out to the barn to get,
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I think it was a baseball
or something like that.
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And I heard a noise on the other
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side of the barn, and I go take a look.
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And there is this giant insect like being.
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It resembled like a praying mantis.
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And I just look at it
and started screaming.
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As I did, he sprayed me with some type
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of bluish gray liquid.
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I ran away from the barn, and I notice that
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this bluish liquid was
evaporating very quickly.
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I was very terrified.
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It's like,
what in the world am I looking at?
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And for a eight year old,
you don't know what to think.
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There was one time I was
going over to a friend's house.
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And I'm walking behind the barn,
I'm going through a field.
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And I get the impression
I am being watched,
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but I didn't anything.
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And then I hear a sound
like the mooing of a cow.
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And I see a head coming
up from behind the bush.
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And I'm looking at it, and I'm saying,
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"Is that a head?
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"Are those eyes?"
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I start getting scared, and then suddenly,
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I said to myself, "Why is it so bright?"
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And I just fainted or just fell down,
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and curled up into a ball.
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And there were several little
grays standing around me.
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But the next thing I know
is that I hear three beeps,
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and I'm standing chest deep in these weeds,
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and I don't know how I got there.
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I was in the back field.
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I was looking for arrowheads.
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I happened to glance up, and I see about
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eight or nine little blue
guys drop from the sky,
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and they hit the ground
running straight toward me.
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I took off toward the house.
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I went around the front of the house.
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I looked underneath our house because
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it was on pillars, and I could see
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their legs on the other side.
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And then they just turned and walked away.
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That night, I'm looking out the window,
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and who should I see but
several of the little guys.
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Then I see them come in into my room,
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and they take me outside.
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And we floated up to some type of craft.
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I'm inside a room, a well lit room
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with one of the little grays,
and a woman comes in.
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She has a long rod in her hand.
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She tilts my head back.
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The little gray guy holds me.
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And she thrusts the rod up my nose.
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She inserted something inside my nose.
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And after she pulled it out, I said,
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"You hurt me, you hurt me."
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And she says, "Let me see."
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And she looked at me,
and she made the pain go away.
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You know how we tag
whales and stuff like that?
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I think there were multiple crafts.
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But I only say them one at a time.
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But they were round,
oval shaped, very bright.
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Sometimes they were dark.
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When they were around there is just
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and incredibly beautiful silence.
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I mean, it was like I was
inside a vacuum or something.
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There could be a car
outside honking its horn,
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and then it would stop.
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And there would be nothing,
absolutely nothing.
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These beings didn't seem hostile at all.
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Scared the hell out of me, but no,
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there was never any hostility at all.
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There's the little grays.
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They were small.
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I kinda of got the
impression they were workers.
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The hairy guy,
it was his eyes that always got me.
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A tall thin being,
he had a knob on the back of his head.
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He was like the person in charge.
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There was the insect being.
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He reminded me of a praying mantis.
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He was frightening, but he always
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spoke to me as if i was a child.
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And then there was Crescent.
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I was walking in the woods,
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and I see a woman sitting under a tree.
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And she gets up,
and she starts coming toward me.
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I become very aroused sexually.
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I couldn't get my pants down fast enough.
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I fall back on the ground,
and I'm lying there,
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and she's looking at me,
and I reached my climax,
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which was quite painful actually.
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It was very intense.
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And then I'm looking into
her eyes and I pass out.
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And the next thing I know, I wake up.
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I don't know how much later,
maybe 15 or 20 minutes.
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My pants are down around my knees.
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I couldn't understand what
they were doing down there.
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And so, I quickly got up,
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pulled my pants and underwear up,
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and I was gone, I left.
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Virginity lost.
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I figured if anything, I'll be losing it
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in the backseat of a Ford,
something like that.
254
00:17:31,450 --> 00:17:35,120
But no, no,
it didn't work out that way at all.
255
00:17:38,090 --> 00:17:39,925
I couldn't take Georgia anymore.
256
00:17:39,958 --> 00:17:42,661
There was just nothing there.
257
00:17:42,694 --> 00:17:46,031
Well,
I always enjoyed drawing and painting.
258
00:17:46,064 --> 00:17:48,467
My parents didn't like it.
259
00:17:48,500 --> 00:17:51,870
I heard about the Art Students League.
260
00:17:51,904 --> 00:17:53,872
So, I wrote a letter to my folks,
261
00:17:53,906 --> 00:17:56,742
told them where I was going,
and that was it.
262
00:17:56,775 --> 00:17:59,278
I just got up and I left.
263
00:17:59,311 --> 00:18:00,913
I was 19 years old.
264
00:18:01,914 --> 00:18:03,682
They weren't there when I left,
265
00:18:03,715 --> 00:18:05,551
or they would've stopped me.
266
00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:15,527
This is during the great transit strike
267
00:18:15,561 --> 00:18:18,230
of 1965, '66, somewhere around there.
268
00:18:19,131 --> 00:18:22,401
And there was no buses
running or anything like that.
269
00:18:22,434 --> 00:18:24,236
I said, "Oh my god," 'cause this is
270
00:18:24,269 --> 00:18:26,939
gonna be one very wet walk.
271
00:18:26,972 --> 00:18:29,274
And so, anyway, I started walking.
272
00:18:29,308 --> 00:18:32,611
And then when I got to 5th Avenue,
I held out my thumb.
273
00:18:32,644 --> 00:18:35,113
I figured, well, hell,
I might as well try it.
274
00:18:35,147 --> 00:18:38,417
And this big black car pulls up, stops.
275
00:18:40,319 --> 00:18:43,422
And this woman, she says,
"Where are you going?"
276
00:18:43,455 --> 00:18:45,257
I says, "Ma'am, if you can just take me
277
00:18:45,290 --> 00:18:49,895
"across Central Park,
I can walk the rest of the way home."
278
00:18:49,928 --> 00:18:51,830
So, she said, "Get in."
279
00:18:54,333 --> 00:18:56,435
We didn't talk very much.
280
00:18:59,805 --> 00:19:04,343
We get there, and I said,
"Thank you very much for the ride.
281
00:19:04,376 --> 00:19:06,478
"You saved me a wet walk."
282
00:19:06,512 --> 00:19:09,281
She just nodded her head.
283
00:19:09,314 --> 00:19:12,351
That night I had a very strange dream.
284
00:19:12,384 --> 00:19:16,088
I see this face, it's a woman's face.
285
00:19:16,121 --> 00:19:20,692
But the eyes are closed,
and she's coming toward me.
286
00:19:20,726 --> 00:19:25,130
And I don't remember
anything else after that.
287
00:19:25,163 --> 00:19:29,334
It was dreamlike, I should say,
but it wasn't a dream.
288
00:19:31,136 --> 00:19:35,641
And every time I would
wake up in the morning,
289
00:19:35,674 --> 00:19:37,142
I would hear these words.
290
00:19:37,176 --> 00:19:39,778
"We'll be back tonight."
291
00:19:39,811 --> 00:19:42,548
Now, this is going on for months.
292
00:19:43,415 --> 00:19:46,185
You have no idea what I was going through.
293
00:19:46,218 --> 00:19:47,886
"It was only a dream.
294
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,922
"No it wasn't, she's real.
295
00:19:49,955 --> 00:19:51,356
"No, she's not."
296
00:19:51,390 --> 00:19:52,925
I'm going back and forth.
297
00:19:52,958 --> 00:19:55,827
I just did not know what to think.
298
00:19:55,861 --> 00:19:59,064
One morning when I wake up,
I hear those words.
299
00:19:59,097 --> 00:20:01,700
"We'll be back tonight."
300
00:20:01,733 --> 00:20:03,802
But I didn't forget them.
301
00:20:05,003 --> 00:20:08,240
I go to the league, and I end the classes.
302
00:20:08,273 --> 00:20:10,842
And as I'm walking home, I'm still having,
303
00:20:10,876 --> 00:20:14,680
"Yes, no, yes, maybe, I don't know."
304
00:20:14,713 --> 00:20:18,884
I pass a florist,
and I see these flowers inside the window.
305
00:20:21,620 --> 00:20:24,223
They were pink cyclamens.
306
00:20:24,256 --> 00:20:27,292
And I say, "Well, if she's real,
307
00:20:27,326 --> 00:20:30,095
"then the flowers are hers."
308
00:20:30,128 --> 00:20:34,299
I remember lying in bed,
and I say, "Those are for you."
309
00:20:36,168 --> 00:20:38,503
The next morning, I wake up.
310
00:20:39,738 --> 00:20:41,239
Wham, it hit me.
311
00:20:41,273 --> 00:20:43,008
She took the flowers.
312
00:20:43,976 --> 00:20:45,877
I couldn't believe it.
313
00:20:45,911 --> 00:20:48,947
That night,
I knew they were gonna come back.
314
00:20:48,981 --> 00:20:52,584
I cleaned up the house, washed some dishes.
315
00:20:53,819 --> 00:20:55,554
Had to be spick and span.
316
00:20:55,587 --> 00:20:58,256
It was like I was gonna have a date.
317
00:20:58,290 --> 00:21:02,294
We weren't going to be going out,
but as a date.
318
00:21:06,932 --> 00:21:10,836
That night,
we were rubbing our heads together.
319
00:21:16,375 --> 00:21:19,645
Next time you're with your girlfriend,
start rubbing heads.
320
00:21:19,678 --> 00:21:21,113
Trust me on this.
321
00:21:24,016 --> 00:21:26,351
There was something very beautiful,
322
00:21:26,385 --> 00:21:28,687
something very lovely about her.
323
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,656
She had a very nice body.
324
00:21:30,689 --> 00:21:32,524
The only thing that was different about her
325
00:21:32,557 --> 00:21:34,993
was that she had very long fingernails,
326
00:21:35,027 --> 00:21:37,362
and she had these very large eyes,
327
00:21:37,396 --> 00:21:39,831
and her face was rather pale.
328
00:21:43,001 --> 00:21:47,873
My relationship with Crescent
was warm and friendly,
329
00:21:47,906 --> 00:21:50,509
a little strange. What do I mean little,
very strange.
330
00:21:53,412 --> 00:21:55,914
She was my girlfriend, really.
331
00:21:58,216 --> 00:22:01,520
This was one of the
first paintings I ever did.
332
00:22:01,553 --> 00:22:03,689
It's not really all that good.
333
00:22:03,722 --> 00:22:07,626
She's on top of me, I reach my climax,
334
00:22:07,659 --> 00:22:10,562
and she and the insect being leave.
335
00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:14,566
I was always having sex with her.
336
00:22:14,599 --> 00:22:17,502
I was on the bottom, and she was on top.
337
00:22:17,536 --> 00:22:20,872
Because I was basically kinda paralyzed.
338
00:22:22,107 --> 00:22:25,043
A very unconventional relationship.
339
00:22:26,211 --> 00:22:29,915
There were a couple of women
at the Art Students League.
340
00:22:29,948 --> 00:22:32,484
I would have only one date,
and that was it.
341
00:22:32,517 --> 00:22:36,488
They would find some reason
not to go out with me again.
342
00:22:36,521 --> 00:22:40,525
But at that time,
it was basically Crescent.
343
00:22:47,265 --> 00:22:50,802
I was doing some painting,
and then all at once,
344
00:22:50,836 --> 00:22:53,605
the wall opens up, and there is Crescent,
345
00:22:53,638 --> 00:22:55,741
and she's very stressed out.
346
00:22:55,774 --> 00:22:58,310
And she says, "David, the baby's dying."
347
00:22:58,343 --> 00:23:01,113
And I go, "Baby? What baby?"
348
00:23:01,146 --> 00:23:02,581
"Your baby, but it's dying."
349
00:23:02,614 --> 00:23:04,716
And I said, "Show me my baby."
350
00:23:04,750 --> 00:23:06,084
At first she wouldn't do it,
351
00:23:06,118 --> 00:23:09,054
and I had to yell it out
three times really loud.
352
00:23:09,087 --> 00:23:10,722
"Show me my baby."
353
00:23:10,756 --> 00:23:13,558
She picks the baby up out of some container
354
00:23:13,592 --> 00:23:15,527
and holds it out in front of her.
355
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,562
And the baby's just like dangling.
356
00:23:17,596 --> 00:23:20,899
And I said, "No, no, no,
don't hold the baby like that.
357
00:23:20,932 --> 00:23:23,468
"Cradle the baby in your arms.
358
00:23:23,502 --> 00:23:25,137
"Listen, I've gotta come there."
359
00:23:25,170 --> 00:23:27,038
"No, you're not allowed."
360
00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:29,441
"My baby's dying, and I can't come there?
361
00:23:29,474 --> 00:23:31,042
"What's this?"
362
00:23:31,076 --> 00:23:34,146
And I go and I pass out on my bed.
363
00:23:34,179 --> 00:23:36,648
The next thing I know, I'm there.
364
00:23:36,681 --> 00:23:40,552
The insect being comes over,
and he's rather upset with me.
365
00:23:40,585 --> 00:23:42,821
He says, "What are you doing here?"
366
00:23:42,854 --> 00:23:44,289
I said, "My baby's dying.
367
00:23:44,322 --> 00:23:45,824
"I want my baby."
368
00:23:45,857 --> 00:23:48,560
And I see Crescent holding the baby,
369
00:23:48,593 --> 00:23:51,129
but the baby is not moving.
370
00:23:51,163 --> 00:23:53,598
And I reach over to touch it,
371
00:23:53,632 --> 00:23:56,902
and just as I touch it,
like static electricity
372
00:23:56,935 --> 00:24:01,106
jumped from my hand to the baby,
and the baby moved.
373
00:24:02,174 --> 00:24:06,077
Maybe I was imparting
some of my energy to it.
374
00:24:06,111 --> 00:24:08,447
And I say, "Wow, did you see that?
375
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,081
"The baby's moving."
376
00:24:10,115 --> 00:24:13,018
The insect being is looking at me,
and he says,
377
00:24:13,051 --> 00:24:14,953
"Come with me."
378
00:24:14,986 --> 00:24:19,291
And we go into another
room filled with babies.
379
00:24:19,324 --> 00:24:22,928
And I'm looking at them,
and I say, "Oh my god.
380
00:24:22,961 --> 00:24:24,796
"Whose babies are these?"
381
00:24:24,830 --> 00:24:26,164
He points to me.
382
00:24:27,165 --> 00:24:31,336
I wasn't so much as creeped
out as I was surprised.
383
00:24:33,038 --> 00:24:34,806
I was just like, whoa, no, no.
384
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,476
I could not believe it at first.
385
00:24:39,978 --> 00:24:43,548
But they were my babies,
and I had to help them,
386
00:24:43,582 --> 00:24:46,251
so I wound up touching them all.
387
00:24:49,221 --> 00:24:53,024
There was one time
where I had totally flipped.
388
00:24:53,058 --> 00:24:56,728
I was taking off my clothes,
and I'm hearing these words,
389
00:24:56,761 --> 00:24:58,797
"Everything is fine,
everything is all right."
390
00:24:58,830 --> 00:25:00,665
And I wasn't all right.
391
00:25:00,699 --> 00:25:02,801
I started crying and everything.
392
00:25:02,834 --> 00:25:04,069
I just broke down.
393
00:25:04,102 --> 00:25:07,572
I kept saying, "The baby died,
the baby died.
394
00:25:07,606 --> 00:25:10,809
"Oh my god, it's my fault, it's my fault."
395
00:25:10,842 --> 00:25:13,144
"Everything is fine,
everything is all right.
396
00:25:13,178 --> 00:25:15,413
"Everything is fine,
everything is all right."
397
00:25:15,447 --> 00:25:19,084
And it wasn't fine,
and it wasn't all right.
398
00:25:21,019 --> 00:25:24,356
"No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no."
399
00:25:24,389 --> 00:25:28,593
I was carrying on,
I was spreading my arms, crying.
400
00:25:28,627 --> 00:25:32,397
These two very large
women grab a hold of me,
401
00:25:32,430 --> 00:25:34,866
and they forced me to the floor.
402
00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:37,335
Crescent came running in, and says,
403
00:25:37,369 --> 00:25:39,437
"David, what is the matter?"
404
00:25:39,471 --> 00:25:42,140
And I said, "My baby died."
405
00:25:42,173 --> 00:25:45,510
And I didn't calm down until Crescent said,
406
00:25:45,543 --> 00:25:47,879
"David, the baby didn't die.
407
00:25:47,913 --> 00:25:50,415
"See, here's your baby."
408
00:25:50,448 --> 00:25:54,786
And one of the women
comes in holding the baby.
409
00:25:54,819 --> 00:25:57,555
I get up and I go over to it.
410
00:25:57,589 --> 00:26:00,792
And all the guilt or
whatever I felt was gone.
411
00:26:07,232 --> 00:26:10,268
This is the morning I woke up.
412
00:26:10,302 --> 00:26:12,170
I heard this voice inside my head.
413
00:26:12,203 --> 00:26:14,673
"The baby is fine, the baby is all right."
414
00:26:14,706 --> 00:26:17,776
It was like letting me know for sure.
415
00:26:26,318 --> 00:26:29,454
there was like this amnesia,
or whatever it is,
416
00:26:29,487 --> 00:26:32,557
but every time I'd have an
experience with these beings,
417
00:26:32,591 --> 00:26:34,926
whether I saw them
during the day or at night,
418
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,528
I always forget it.
419
00:26:37,429 --> 00:26:38,530
It was just incredible.
420
00:26:38,563 --> 00:26:43,001
I should not forget something like that,
but I did.
421
00:26:43,034 --> 00:26:46,304
It started coming back August 17, 1987.
422
00:26:49,941 --> 00:26:54,245
They had left me alone
for a long period of time.
423
00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:57,882
I got married, and we had Michael.
424
00:26:57,916 --> 00:27:02,620
It seemed like I was
living a perfectly normal life
425
00:27:02,654 --> 00:27:05,557
until I started remembering things.
426
00:27:06,891 --> 00:27:10,962
And then it just like, flipped me out.
427
00:27:10,996 --> 00:27:13,932
I was creeping around the house,
428
00:27:13,965 --> 00:27:18,136
because I felt that there was
somebody else in the house.
429
00:27:19,004 --> 00:27:22,240
I felt a presence... but I never saw them.
430
00:27:24,175 --> 00:27:25,777
I didn't know what to think.
431
00:27:25,810 --> 00:27:27,879
I was just beside myself.
432
00:27:30,348 --> 00:27:34,352
I was getting nervous,
anxious, paranoid really.
433
00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:38,990
I was basically a walking bowl of jello.
434
00:27:39,024 --> 00:27:43,194
I didn't know who to speak
to or anything like that.
435
00:27:45,163 --> 00:27:47,999
I heard about Budd Hopkins.
436
00:27:54,372 --> 00:27:56,875
And I tried getting his book.
437
00:28:00,912 --> 00:28:02,514
It was like a compulsion.
438
00:28:02,547 --> 00:28:05,917
It was like I was being led to the book.
439
00:28:08,286 --> 00:28:10,722
I'm going back to the house,
440
00:28:10,755 --> 00:28:13,158
and looking through the book,
441
00:28:13,191 --> 00:28:16,027
and there was this chapter,
Other Women Other Men,
442
00:28:16,061 --> 00:28:18,630
and I start reading it.
443
00:28:23,935 --> 00:28:25,570
I go, "Oh my god."
444
00:28:25,603 --> 00:28:29,107
This is the woman I
never told anyone about.
445
00:28:29,140 --> 00:28:33,311
As I was reading it,
memory upon memory come flooding back.
446
00:28:34,479 --> 00:28:37,682
It was just like image upon image,
upon image.
447
00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:39,117
It wouldn't stop.
448
00:28:40,385 --> 00:28:41,719
I think what bothered me the most
449
00:28:41,753 --> 00:28:44,556
is I didn't know what to do with it.
450
00:28:44,589 --> 00:28:46,491
I was so scared.
451
00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:58,203
There was this meeting with these beings,
452
00:28:58,236 --> 00:29:02,373
and the tall thing guys aid,
"Let David do paintings."
453
00:29:03,641 --> 00:29:05,276
It took me about three weeks to
454
00:29:05,310 --> 00:29:09,647
get up enough nerve
to do my first painting.
455
00:29:09,681 --> 00:29:10,681
But I did.
456
00:29:12,117 --> 00:29:15,553
And that night I got such a restful sleep.
457
00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:37,942
It was just a relief to get the images
458
00:29:37,976 --> 00:29:40,245
down on the canvas.
459
00:29:46,284 --> 00:29:48,419
That's the insect being.
460
00:29:48,453 --> 00:29:50,021
He is always there.
461
00:29:51,489 --> 00:29:53,758
This is my other body.
462
00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:55,793
This is the packaged alien.
463
00:29:55,827 --> 00:29:57,595
It opened it's eyes and mouth,
464
00:29:57,629 --> 00:30:00,165
and it began tapping
on the side of the plastic.
465
00:30:00,198 --> 00:30:02,867
I quickly gave it back to him.
466
00:30:02,901 --> 00:30:04,836
It kind of scared me.
467
00:30:04,869 --> 00:30:08,640
It's a UFO over my head,
and it is humongous.
468
00:30:10,875 --> 00:30:14,979
I am someplace,
it is park-like, it is beautiful.
469
00:30:15,013 --> 00:30:17,115
This is on the other side of the portal,
470
00:30:17,148 --> 00:30:18,883
then it closes up,
471
00:30:18,917 --> 00:30:21,452
and I am someplace else.
472
00:30:21,486 --> 00:30:23,988
We're in space, or at least it
473
00:30:25,223 --> 00:30:27,659
seemed to me we were in space.
474
00:30:27,692 --> 00:30:29,160
We went to this room,
475
00:30:29,194 --> 00:30:31,462
there was this bowl on this table,
476
00:30:31,496 --> 00:30:35,333
and I was supposed to
ejaculate into the bowl.
477
00:30:36,401 --> 00:30:37,711
- Not very romantic.
478
00:30:37,735 --> 00:30:38,735
- No.
479
00:30:39,837 --> 00:30:42,207
This is one of the large women,
480
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,410
and I had sex with this woman.
481
00:30:45,443 --> 00:30:48,346
It was quite pleasant, even though
482
00:30:48,379 --> 00:30:51,449
she was bigger than me, and stronger.
483
00:30:55,053 --> 00:30:56,354
I was traumatized.
484
00:30:56,387 --> 00:30:58,790
I'm not saying that I wasn't.
485
00:31:02,627 --> 00:31:06,598
But after I started doing the paintings,
486
00:31:06,631 --> 00:31:09,267
it seemed like I was calming down,
487
00:31:09,300 --> 00:31:12,904
and that I realized that these
things had happened to me.
488
00:31:12,937 --> 00:31:15,106
And I was able to face it.
489
00:31:19,244 --> 00:31:20,979
Oops, out of staples.
490
00:31:26,317 --> 00:31:27,317
Okay.
491
00:31:32,991 --> 00:31:36,027
I see the image in my head, and I start
492
00:31:36,060 --> 00:31:39,897
drawing the image image
or painting the image.
493
00:31:44,669 --> 00:31:46,537
There was like, I don't know,
494
00:31:46,571 --> 00:31:49,641
something orangey about his eyes.
495
00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:54,445
He was just standing there looking at me.
496
00:31:54,479 --> 00:31:56,414
And I went and told my father,
497
00:31:56,447 --> 00:31:59,417
and he came back very angry with me.
498
00:31:59,450 --> 00:32:02,086
"There's nobody out there!
499
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,955
"Boy, quit making things up."
500
00:32:03,988 --> 00:32:05,423
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
501
00:32:10,028 --> 00:32:13,031
The next day I was behind our house,
502
00:32:14,499 --> 00:32:16,434
and there was Crescent.
503
00:32:18,236 --> 00:32:21,172
I said, "My mama and daddy don't believe me
504
00:32:21,205 --> 00:32:23,041
"when I say I see you.
505
00:32:24,542 --> 00:32:26,144
"I got a whipping."
506
00:32:27,211 --> 00:32:29,914
And as soon as I said it,
507
00:32:29,947 --> 00:32:32,950
I knew she didn't like hearing that.
508
00:32:35,653 --> 00:32:38,222
Then she just stared right into my eyes,
509
00:32:38,256 --> 00:32:41,793
and she says, "Then don't tell them."
510
00:32:41,826 --> 00:32:44,495
After that, I never said a word.
511
00:32:48,666 --> 00:32:50,468
- This is what you were
512
00:32:50,501 --> 00:32:52,003
painting last time I was here.
513
00:32:52,036 --> 00:32:54,605
- Yeah, I just never did finish it.
514
00:33:10,788 --> 00:33:12,323
- As you're painting,
515
00:33:12,357 --> 00:33:14,859
does the memory become clearer?
516
00:33:14,892 --> 00:33:16,627
- Yes, it does, actually.
517
00:33:26,471 --> 00:33:30,274
I usually see 'em rather bright, you know.
518
00:33:30,308 --> 00:33:31,809
But this was dark.
519
00:33:33,978 --> 00:33:35,580
I think it's a UFO.
520
00:33:36,647 --> 00:33:40,118
It wasn't a hole in space,
I can tell you that much,
521
00:33:40,151 --> 00:33:41,919
'cause it was moving.
522
00:33:42,954 --> 00:33:44,756
Let me see here, okay.
523
00:33:53,631 --> 00:33:56,968
My mother and father drank a great deal.
524
00:33:59,470 --> 00:34:01,639
If I was anywhere around, I usually
525
00:34:01,672 --> 00:34:04,442
got hit or something like that.
526
00:34:04,475 --> 00:34:07,612
And I just got sick and tired of it.
527
00:34:07,645 --> 00:34:09,213
Sometimes it was with a belt.
528
00:34:09,247 --> 00:34:12,984
Sometimes it was with a switch,
rather thick.
529
00:34:21,459 --> 00:34:24,028
And dad was seeing other women.
530
00:34:28,332 --> 00:34:30,435
It was like hell, really.
531
00:34:33,438 --> 00:34:36,140
And I hear this voice
inside my head saying,
532
00:34:36,174 --> 00:34:40,144
"If you don't leave now, you never will."
533
00:34:40,178 --> 00:34:41,612
And well, I left.
534
00:34:44,615 --> 00:34:47,418
I'm not strict with Michael at all.
535
00:34:47,452 --> 00:34:51,189
I've never hit him,
spare the rod and all that good stuff.
536
00:34:51,222 --> 00:34:52,657
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
537
00:34:58,362 --> 00:35:01,199
There is one time I did one painting
538
00:35:01,232 --> 00:35:03,234
which I totally made up.
539
00:35:04,969 --> 00:35:06,204
I destroyed it.
540
00:35:07,638 --> 00:35:09,340
The main reason why I did it is that
541
00:35:09,373 --> 00:35:12,109
they were very upset with me.
542
00:35:12,143 --> 00:35:14,846
And it was like, "David, do the paintings,
543
00:35:14,879 --> 00:35:17,515
"But don't make anything up."
544
00:35:21,018 --> 00:35:23,821
Now, when this painting dries,
545
00:35:23,855 --> 00:35:25,790
I'm thinking of putting some trees
546
00:35:25,823 --> 00:35:27,792
down here at the bottom.
547
00:35:27,825 --> 00:35:30,461
But I've got to wait until it dries.
548
00:35:30,495 --> 00:35:33,998
- What
would you title this painting?
549
00:35:34,031 --> 00:35:35,933
- Something in the Sky?
550
00:35:46,377 --> 00:35:51,249
I'm working on a movie script
about my ET experiences.
551
00:35:51,282 --> 00:35:53,151
Right now, I'm up to a point where David
552
00:35:53,184 --> 00:35:57,355
sees his babies in the incubator room,
and he is shocked.
553
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,896
And he asks the insect being,
"Whose babies are these?"
554
00:36:04,929 --> 00:36:07,865
And the insect being points to him.
555
00:36:08,733 --> 00:36:11,235
And David says to himself,
556
00:36:11,269 --> 00:36:14,539
"How am I going to send
these kids to college."
557
00:36:15,773 --> 00:36:18,042
The act of writing is, for me,
558
00:36:18,075 --> 00:36:20,044
similar to painting.
559
00:36:20,077 --> 00:36:24,248
It seems like I get more
out of it by writing it by hand.
560
00:36:26,083 --> 00:36:29,020
I just seem to remember a little bit more.
561
00:36:33,224 --> 00:36:36,194
I just remembered something.
562
00:36:36,227 --> 00:36:39,630
There was a time during my teens where
563
00:36:39,664 --> 00:36:42,200
I seemed to float off my bead.
564
00:36:44,969 --> 00:36:48,072
And then as I'm floating off the bed,
565
00:36:49,674 --> 00:36:52,443
I kinda wake up, and then I crash
566
00:36:53,644 --> 00:36:56,447
back down on the bed again.
567
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,283
- What made
you just remember that?
568
00:36:59,317 --> 00:37:01,752
- It's what I'm reading here.
569
00:37:02,887 --> 00:37:05,456
I read the book, and then several
570
00:37:05,489 --> 00:37:08,359
months later we got a divorce.
571
00:37:12,296 --> 00:37:16,033
We had been having
problems in our marriage.
572
00:37:16,067 --> 00:37:20,104
I know that she knows that
something was different about me.
573
00:37:20,137 --> 00:37:23,641
I didn't know how to bring it up.
574
00:37:23,674 --> 00:37:25,109
I said, "We gotta sit down.
575
00:37:25,142 --> 00:37:26,520
"I gotta talk to you about something.
576
00:37:26,544 --> 00:37:29,180
"I have no idea where to start."
577
00:37:31,449 --> 00:37:35,786
But I said,
"I have had a experiences as a child
578
00:37:35,820 --> 00:37:38,389
"with all I can say are aliens,
579
00:37:39,256 --> 00:37:43,361
"and there were sexual encounters also."
580
00:37:43,394 --> 00:37:45,096
And that was when it stopped.
581
00:37:45,129 --> 00:37:47,265
"Oh, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no.
582
00:37:47,298 --> 00:37:49,634
"I don't wanna hear it,
I don't wanna hear it.
583
00:37:49,667 --> 00:37:52,303
"I don't wanna hear it, you're crazy."
584
00:37:52,336 --> 00:37:54,038
That was it.
585
00:38:07,351 --> 00:38:10,021
Oh, which one am I looking for?
586
00:38:11,389 --> 00:38:14,492
Yeah,
this is a young boy that she showed me
587
00:38:14,525 --> 00:38:16,427
that was mine and hers.
588
00:38:18,262 --> 00:38:21,666
It's like, in a way, I think of Michael.
589
00:38:21,699 --> 00:38:23,634
It's like he has some half brothers
590
00:38:23,668 --> 00:38:25,903
and half sisters someplace.
591
00:38:26,937 --> 00:38:30,174
Well, I told Michael when he was younger,
you know.
592
00:38:30,207 --> 00:38:32,343
But I kept it very light.
593
00:38:32,376 --> 00:38:35,246
And I said, "These are people that I know.
594
00:38:35,279 --> 00:38:37,481
"They're from someplace else."
595
00:38:37,515 --> 00:38:38,816
And he would say, "Well, where?"
596
00:38:38,849 --> 00:38:42,053
I said, "I don't know."
597
00:38:42,086 --> 00:38:45,089
This is me holding my son upside down.
598
00:38:45,122 --> 00:38:48,392
He likes to be held that way,
I have no idea why.
599
00:38:48,426 --> 00:38:51,062
I've gotta ask him one of
these days if he remembers.
600
00:39:02,873 --> 00:39:04,551
- I don't really remember how I found out.
601
00:39:04,575 --> 00:39:07,345
I just remember the paintings.
602
00:39:07,378 --> 00:39:10,414
I just asked, "Who are they?
603
00:39:10,448 --> 00:39:11,782
"What are they?"
604
00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:17,722
I guess, at some point, I was told.
605
00:39:17,755 --> 00:39:20,391
But there was never a moment where
606
00:39:20,424 --> 00:39:24,028
we had a big conversation about it.
607
00:39:24,061 --> 00:39:26,464
I guess my childhood upbringing was
608
00:39:26,497 --> 00:39:29,600
pretty easy going, pretty normal.
609
00:39:29,633 --> 00:39:33,804
Well, the extra terrestrial
encounters are unique.
610
00:39:40,678 --> 00:39:44,281
The encounters never impacted my childhood.
611
00:39:45,416 --> 00:39:48,686
It was just something that was going on.
612
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,889
And it never flowed over into my life.
613
00:39:55,926 --> 00:39:58,696
Yeah, I supposed I just accepted it.
614
00:39:58,729 --> 00:40:02,733
I never really questioned it or
was very concerned about it.
615
00:40:07,872 --> 00:40:11,609
- I admire him that he
believes in certain things.
616
00:40:11,642 --> 00:40:14,645
And nobody has to judge nobody else.
617
00:40:18,149 --> 00:40:20,851
I know David by one day walking
618
00:40:20,885 --> 00:40:23,921
in the store looking for the job.
619
00:40:23,954 --> 00:40:26,590
And he told me he knew
how to work in a deli.
620
00:40:26,624 --> 00:40:27,958
And I gave him a chance,
621
00:40:27,992 --> 00:40:31,328
and since then he's still working here.
622
00:40:31,362 --> 00:40:33,964
- Yes, sir, may I help you?
623
00:40:33,998 --> 00:40:36,433
- He's a very quiet person.
624
00:40:36,467 --> 00:40:38,536
He gets along with everybody.
625
00:40:38,569 --> 00:40:40,638
- Just made it a little while ago.
626
00:40:40,671 --> 00:40:41,939
Enjoy. - Thanks.
627
00:40:43,674 --> 00:40:45,910
- I saw his paintings once.
628
00:40:47,912 --> 00:40:50,981
Well, each one believes in his own ideas.
629
00:40:51,015 --> 00:40:52,850
And I respected that.
630
00:40:52,883 --> 00:40:54,285
- Do you believe that
631
00:40:54,318 --> 00:40:56,253
David had these experiences?
632
00:40:56,287 --> 00:40:57,321
- Yes, I do.
633
00:40:58,422 --> 00:41:01,225
That's what he tells me,
and I just believe it.
634
00:41:05,830 --> 00:41:06,997
- My name's Nitten.
635
00:41:07,031 --> 00:41:08,866
I live on the block.
636
00:41:08,899 --> 00:41:13,304
And it's a block where
everyone has a good time
637
00:41:13,337 --> 00:41:15,906
just hanging on the steps, talk.
638
00:41:15,940 --> 00:41:19,844
And our friend, David,
is a very good neighbor
639
00:41:19,877 --> 00:41:23,247
since the last 30 years that I know.
640
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,050
And very quiet. And when you see him,
641
00:41:26,083 --> 00:41:30,387
the most friendliest guy
you'll ever meet is David.
642
00:41:30,421 --> 00:41:32,223
And he's actually the last man
643
00:41:32,256 --> 00:41:34,758
standing alone on this block.
644
00:41:34,792 --> 00:41:37,361
We had a lot of people
who have gone to heaven,
645
00:41:37,394 --> 00:41:41,398
and he's the only guys
who's left here on the block.
646
00:41:41,432 --> 00:41:44,201
No, I haven't heard his unique story.
647
00:41:44,235 --> 00:41:47,171
I would like to hear his unique story.
648
00:41:54,545 --> 00:41:56,614
Oh, beautiful eyes on the alien.
649
00:41:56,647 --> 00:41:57,815
Hypnotic eyes.
650
00:41:59,149 --> 00:42:03,320
So, that's his room,
and she's having sexual intercourse.
651
00:42:04,889 --> 00:42:06,290
Wow.
652
00:42:06,323 --> 00:42:08,792
That's something unique, from an alien?
653
00:42:13,998 --> 00:42:18,402
- I have not had sex with
aliens or anybody like that.
654
00:42:18,435 --> 00:42:22,172
But the question,
would I in the first place?
655
00:42:24,909 --> 00:42:26,777
I've written thousands front page articles
656
00:42:26,810 --> 00:42:28,879
in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle.
657
00:42:28,913 --> 00:42:30,915
I have interviewed Hillary Clinton
658
00:42:30,948 --> 00:42:32,616
many years ago when she was a senator.
659
00:42:32,650 --> 00:42:34,118
I've interviewed Michael Bloomberg,
660
00:42:34,151 --> 00:42:36,787
and the mayors of New York,
and other public figures.
661
00:42:36,820 --> 00:42:38,322
I connect with people.
662
00:42:38,355 --> 00:42:40,257
I connect in a very human way,
663
00:42:40,291 --> 00:42:42,993
because there's a human
story behind that person.
664
00:42:43,027 --> 00:42:44,895
I do the same thing when I'm dealing with
665
00:42:44,929 --> 00:42:48,632
somebody who claims to
have had an experience.
666
00:42:48,666 --> 00:42:52,403
I am involved in the UFO
subject very intimately,
667
00:42:52,436 --> 00:42:56,140
both as experiencer and as one who founded
668
00:42:56,173 --> 00:42:59,076
a support group for people who have had
669
00:42:59,109 --> 00:43:01,679
experiences of seeing UFOs,
670
00:43:01,712 --> 00:43:04,181
to having close contact with UFOs.
671
00:43:04,214 --> 00:43:06,283
And the group is called SPACE.
672
00:43:06,317 --> 00:43:08,919
The letters mean Search Project
673
00:43:08,953 --> 00:43:11,622
for Aspects of Close Encounters.
674
00:43:13,057 --> 00:43:16,794
People come to our meeting
and tell about their experiences.
675
00:43:16,827 --> 00:43:18,762
And David was one of them.
676
00:43:18,796 --> 00:43:20,764
He showed us some of his artwork.
677
00:43:20,798 --> 00:43:25,369
And that's how we
actually formed a friendship.
678
00:43:25,402 --> 00:43:28,505
What David reveals, the way he talks,
679
00:43:29,373 --> 00:43:33,510
the way he does his art,
from all that he's told me,
680
00:43:33,544 --> 00:43:35,679
from all that he's shown me,
681
00:43:35,713 --> 00:43:39,984
from his manner and
personality and character,
682
00:43:40,017 --> 00:43:42,019
I trust what he says.
683
00:43:42,052 --> 00:43:45,222
And it conveys not only trust,
684
00:43:45,255 --> 00:43:48,025
but commonalities that other people
685
00:43:48,058 --> 00:43:52,463
who also have the ability
to sketch and make artwork
686
00:43:52,496 --> 00:43:54,498
which I collected over the years.
687
00:43:54,531 --> 00:43:57,234
This is my own sketch of an experience
688
00:43:57,267 --> 00:43:59,703
in 1993 in Greenwich Village.
689
00:44:00,904 --> 00:44:02,106
I have fun.
690
00:44:02,139 --> 00:44:04,908
This is my balloon alien blown up.
691
00:44:06,877 --> 00:44:09,913
I put him on the bed, and he's reading
692
00:44:09,947 --> 00:44:12,883
UFO Roswell.
693
00:44:14,618 --> 00:44:16,220
What does he think?
694
00:44:17,621 --> 00:44:19,923
Now, why did they choose David Huggins,
695
00:44:19,957 --> 00:44:21,859
for that matter, anybody else?
696
00:44:21,892 --> 00:44:25,929
And David has pondered
that for a long time.
697
00:44:25,963 --> 00:44:29,199
And I don't think he has an answer.
698
00:44:29,233 --> 00:44:32,803
- $64 question, I have no idea why.
699
00:44:32,836 --> 00:44:35,406
I mean, I don't consider myself
700
00:44:37,408 --> 00:44:39,510
all that important or special.
701
00:44:39,543 --> 00:44:42,246
I mean,
I don't even know what that means anymore.
702
00:44:42,279 --> 00:44:43,680
But they came into my life,
703
00:44:43,714 --> 00:44:47,451
and to a certain degree,
they're still there.
704
00:44:51,989 --> 00:44:54,224
Who are these beings?
705
00:44:54,258 --> 00:44:56,627
What do these experiences mean?
706
00:44:56,660 --> 00:44:59,897
And why did these beings choose me?
707
00:44:59,930 --> 00:45:03,467
I don't know,
I've never asked these questions.
708
00:45:13,143 --> 00:45:14,578
Okay.
709
00:45:14,611 --> 00:45:16,346
Who are these beings?
710
00:45:19,483 --> 00:45:21,819
Creative power, the Creator.
711
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,689
What do these experiences mean?
712
00:45:28,959 --> 00:45:31,528
What do these experiences
mean?
713
00:45:34,598 --> 00:45:35,598
Eight.
714
00:45:37,034 --> 00:45:38,034
39.
715
00:45:40,237 --> 00:45:41,438
Hm, obstacles.
716
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,075
What do these experiences mean?
717
00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:46,109
Obstacles.
718
00:45:48,178 --> 00:45:49,980
Why did these beings choose me?
719
00:46:01,325 --> 00:46:04,094
Okay, let me see what that one is.
720
00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:09,099
Advancement.
721
00:46:09,133 --> 00:46:10,033
It must be Doug.
722
00:46:10,067 --> 00:46:11,001
- Just ring the bell?
723
00:46:11,034 --> 00:46:13,537
Yes, I'll be down in a minute.
724
00:46:18,609 --> 00:46:20,711
- The original Thing, I love. - Yes.
725
00:46:20,744 --> 00:46:23,013
- With James Arness.
726
00:46:23,046 --> 00:46:24,681
- I have a few of those. - Yeah.
727
00:46:24,715 --> 00:46:27,718
That was always a very,
very effective film.
728
00:46:27,751 --> 00:46:30,921
- How do you know David?
729
00:46:32,589 --> 00:46:34,224
- I'd heard about you at first.
730
00:46:34,258 --> 00:46:36,093
And then when I met David,
731
00:46:36,126 --> 00:46:38,095
I went into where you
were working at Lisa's.
732
00:46:38,128 --> 00:46:39,796
- Right. - And I introduced myself.
733
00:46:39,830 --> 00:46:41,932
I don't have these kinds
of experiences at all,
734
00:46:41,965 --> 00:46:46,103
but I'm very, very,
good for some reason at spotting things.
735
00:46:46,136 --> 00:46:47,280
One of the reasons why I think
736
00:46:47,304 --> 00:46:49,406
I'm good at it is I actually look up.
737
00:46:49,439 --> 00:46:51,341
When everybody else is walking around
738
00:46:51,375 --> 00:46:52,943
in this town with their head down.
739
00:46:52,976 --> 00:46:54,945
The closest thing that I've had
740
00:46:54,978 --> 00:46:57,247
when I was seeing something was
741
00:46:57,281 --> 00:47:00,083
a sort of a very spiritual feeling.
742
00:47:00,117 --> 00:47:04,221
It was a cooler day,
and it was brilliant blue out.
743
00:47:04,254 --> 00:47:05,722
And I was ready to see something.
744
00:47:05,756 --> 00:47:07,691
And I sat on my church steps on
745
00:47:07,724 --> 00:47:10,727
7th and Jefferson, the St. Ann's Church.
746
00:47:10,761 --> 00:47:13,797
I sat there, camera here, just watching,
747
00:47:13,830 --> 00:47:14,965
and watching, and waiting.
748
00:47:14,998 --> 00:47:16,533
And one of the most beautiful sights,
749
00:47:16,567 --> 00:47:20,737
a whitish pearlescent
orb came over my head,
750
00:47:20,771 --> 00:47:22,940
stopped directly above me,
751
00:47:23,807 --> 00:47:25,442
I took about 20 pictures of it.
752
00:47:25,475 --> 00:47:28,412
It was beautiful,
a diffused pearlescent orb.
753
00:47:28,445 --> 00:47:31,815
And the second I looked down
to do something on my camera,
754
00:47:31,848 --> 00:47:33,650
it was gone.
755
00:47:33,684 --> 00:47:35,219
I'm working on an interesting series
756
00:47:35,252 --> 00:47:38,555
of paintings about whistleblowers.
757
00:47:38,589 --> 00:47:42,593
I'm up to almost 60
portraits of whistleblowers.
758
00:47:46,730 --> 00:47:50,234
The town councilor in Whitby, England,
759
00:47:50,267 --> 00:47:53,403
that means he held a political position
760
00:47:53,437 --> 00:47:57,007
and was elected after he came out admitting
761
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,977
that his parents were mantid beings.
762
00:48:00,877 --> 00:48:01,745
So, can you imagine that?
763
00:48:01,778 --> 00:48:03,981
He comes out in public and admits
764
00:48:04,014 --> 00:48:07,451
that his real mother
is like a mantid being.
765
00:48:07,484 --> 00:48:10,587
And David paints the mantids,
which is interesting.
766
00:48:10,621 --> 00:48:14,091
And he admitted that, and they still
767
00:48:14,124 --> 00:48:17,361
re-elected him as town councilor.
768
00:48:20,030 --> 00:48:21,107
- Okay, you ready?
769
00:48:21,131 --> 00:48:23,033
- Yeah, who is this guy?
770
00:48:23,066 --> 00:48:25,002
- That's Bigfoot.
771
00:48:25,035 --> 00:48:28,171
- And
what's his significance?
772
00:48:28,205 --> 00:48:31,541
- He guards our door and holds our hats.
773
00:48:38,348 --> 00:48:40,851
Some of the best and most popular
774
00:48:40,884 --> 00:48:43,720
science fiction writers of all time
775
00:48:43,754 --> 00:48:47,090
had jaw dropping paranormal experiences.
776
00:48:48,825 --> 00:48:52,963
And that's why they wrote
the stories they wrote.
777
00:48:52,996 --> 00:48:55,332
It's the paranormal that produces
778
00:48:55,365 --> 00:48:56,833
the science fiction,
779
00:48:56,867 --> 00:48:58,969
and then the science fiction loops back
780
00:48:59,002 --> 00:49:01,471
and influences the paranormal.
781
00:49:01,505 --> 00:49:04,041
It's not just that David remembers
782
00:49:04,074 --> 00:49:05,676
abduction experiences because he has
783
00:49:05,709 --> 00:49:09,813
a thousand VHS tapes
of science fiction movies.
784
00:49:09,846 --> 00:49:13,383
It's that he actually collected a thousand
785
00:49:13,417 --> 00:49:16,887
VHS tapes because he
had an abduction experience.
786
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,423
It goes both ways I think.
787
00:49:19,456 --> 00:49:24,328
When I spoke to David,
I heard a man who is very sincere,
788
00:49:24,361 --> 00:49:28,732
very simple in many ways,
whom I really liked immediately.
789
00:49:28,765 --> 00:49:30,033
I mean, he just exudes this
790
00:49:30,067 --> 00:49:32,803
kind of humane personable nature.
791
00:49:34,404 --> 00:49:37,240
And I heard a man who was just telling us
792
00:49:37,274 --> 00:49:39,209
the truth as best he could without
793
00:49:39,242 --> 00:49:42,913
a whole lot of interpretive overlay.
794
00:49:42,946 --> 00:49:45,682
Kind of a humility there.
795
00:49:45,716 --> 00:49:48,719
He's clearly working
through his experiences,
796
00:49:48,752 --> 00:49:52,923
and his suffering,
and his joy all at the same time.
797
00:49:54,124 --> 00:49:57,694
I'm a professor of
religion at Rice University.
798
00:49:57,728 --> 00:49:59,896
I am a historian of religions,
799
00:49:59,930 --> 00:50:03,400
which means I compare
religious experiences,
800
00:50:03,433 --> 00:50:05,569
kind of across space and time.
801
00:50:05,602 --> 00:50:06,646
The first half of my career,
802
00:50:06,670 --> 00:50:10,006
I wrote about erotic forms of mysticism.
803
00:50:11,241 --> 00:50:13,377
People's extreme religious experiences
804
00:50:13,410 --> 00:50:15,912
that were also sexual in some way.
805
00:50:15,946 --> 00:50:19,049
It's extremely common
actually in the history of religions.
806
00:50:19,082 --> 00:50:21,385
And that's really what brought me to
807
00:50:21,418 --> 00:50:24,788
the theme of the alien
abduction literature.
808
00:50:24,821 --> 00:50:27,424
So, really, the alien abduction literature,
809
00:50:27,457 --> 00:50:30,794
in my own mind, is simply a modern secular
810
00:50:30,827 --> 00:50:33,330
form of mystical literature.
811
00:50:33,363 --> 00:50:35,565
I mean, the whole history of religions
812
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:38,301
is essentially about weird beings
813
00:50:38,335 --> 00:50:39,936
coming from the sky and doing
814
00:50:39,970 --> 00:50:42,005
strange things to human beings.
815
00:50:42,038 --> 00:50:44,808
And historically,
those events or encounters
816
00:50:44,841 --> 00:50:46,743
had been framed as angels, or demons,
817
00:50:46,777 --> 00:50:48,945
or Gods, or Goddesses, or what have you.
818
00:50:48,979 --> 00:50:52,149
But in the modern sort
of secular world we live in,
819
00:50:52,182 --> 00:50:55,619
they get framed in sort of science fiction.
820
00:50:55,652 --> 00:50:58,021
Most people, when they think of the sacred,
821
00:50:58,055 --> 00:51:00,657
who are not trained in the field,
822
00:51:00,690 --> 00:51:03,160
think of the holy as the good.
823
00:51:03,193 --> 00:51:06,129
So, being holy is about being nice.
824
00:51:06,163 --> 00:51:08,698
But actually, when a human being encounters
825
00:51:08,732 --> 00:51:12,636
the sacred, it's a terrifying experience,
826
00:51:12,669 --> 00:51:15,372
and it's an ecstatic experience.
827
00:51:15,405 --> 00:51:17,707
You are being split open.
828
00:51:17,741 --> 00:51:20,677
So, I'm not surprised at all to see
829
00:51:21,711 --> 00:51:24,948
someone like David say it was scary
830
00:51:24,981 --> 00:51:28,351
and then to paint some
of these terrifying images,
831
00:51:28,385 --> 00:51:30,320
and to insist that it was the most
832
00:51:30,353 --> 00:51:32,289
pleasurable events of his life.
833
00:51:32,322 --> 00:51:35,559
And he'd do it again in a heartbeat.
834
00:51:35,592 --> 00:51:37,994
I myself actually had such an experience
835
00:51:38,028 --> 00:51:40,297
in Calcutta in 1989.
836
00:51:40,330 --> 00:51:41,865
It was extremely dramatic,
837
00:51:41,898 --> 00:51:45,168
it was extremely erotic, and it was scary.
838
00:51:45,202 --> 00:51:47,704
It was that single event that,
839
00:51:48,939 --> 00:51:51,241
I think, makes me so sympathetic
840
00:51:51,274 --> 00:51:53,243
to people who've had these experiences,
841
00:51:53,276 --> 00:51:55,212
because I know they happen.
842
00:51:55,245 --> 00:51:56,746
You can't tell me they don't happen.
843
00:51:56,780 --> 00:51:59,883
It happened to me, and I know it happens.
844
00:51:59,916 --> 00:52:02,152
I absolutely think David's being genuine.
845
00:52:02,185 --> 00:52:04,688
You certainly can't talk to
him without thinking that.
846
00:52:04,721 --> 00:52:06,823
He's a very humble man.
847
00:52:06,857 --> 00:52:09,826
But I also believe him because his story
848
00:52:09,860 --> 00:52:12,162
is so similar to other stories I've heard
849
00:52:12,195 --> 00:52:14,331
from other people I've worked with,
850
00:52:14,364 --> 00:52:17,834
and got to know very, very, well.
851
00:52:17,868 --> 00:52:20,136
I'm completely convinced they're not lying.
852
00:52:20,170 --> 00:52:21,771
They're being very sincere.
853
00:52:21,805 --> 00:52:26,009
But again, what it is is an
entirely different question.
854
00:52:26,042 --> 00:52:30,180
And that's where I think
we need a lot more humility.
855
00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:36,419
- Believing is like a funny thing.
856
00:52:36,453 --> 00:52:40,090
It's like,
unless we really experience something,
857
00:52:40,123 --> 00:52:44,094
we may often say we believe,
but we really don't.
858
00:52:44,127 --> 00:52:47,063
I look at the character of a person,
859
00:52:47,097 --> 00:52:49,199
then I look at "what is the motive?"
860
00:52:49,232 --> 00:52:50,901
I mean, there's no motive.
861
00:52:50,934 --> 00:52:53,069
This is one of the things I thought about.
862
00:52:53,103 --> 00:52:55,605
David has no motive to be telling anything
863
00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:57,607
other than what's real for him.
864
00:52:57,641 --> 00:53:00,076
It's not like he's raking
in millions of dollars.
865
00:53:00,110 --> 00:53:03,780
There doesn't seem
to be any kind of motive.
866
00:53:03,813 --> 00:53:05,415
- I would think that initially,
867
00:53:05,448 --> 00:53:06,893
if they're not familiar with the subject,
868
00:53:06,917 --> 00:53:09,519
they say, "This is fantasy,
this is fiction.
869
00:53:09,553 --> 00:53:12,989
"This is made up to sell paintings,"
and all that.
870
00:53:13,023 --> 00:53:15,792
And others say, "You must be kidding me.
871
00:53:15,825 --> 00:53:17,994
"There's something wrong with you," or,
872
00:53:18,028 --> 00:53:19,996
"See a psychiatrist, or something."
873
00:53:20,030 --> 00:53:24,000
Some say maybe, maybe,
the maybe is very important,
874
00:53:24,034 --> 00:53:25,368
maybe it can be.
875
00:53:27,671 --> 00:53:29,472
- There is always a possibility that
876
00:53:29,506 --> 00:53:31,975
there are other explanations.
877
00:53:32,008 --> 00:53:34,144
But I think the fact that there are
878
00:53:34,177 --> 00:53:35,488
a lot of people in the world that have
879
00:53:35,512 --> 00:53:39,149
had so many similar encounters
in so many different ways,
880
00:53:39,182 --> 00:53:40,650
so many different parts of the world
881
00:53:40,684 --> 00:53:42,752
without any form of communication,
882
00:53:42,786 --> 00:53:46,957
that I think this is probably
the best explanation.
883
00:53:50,827 --> 00:53:53,163
- Do you
believe in extraterrestrials?
884
00:53:53,196 --> 00:53:54,431
- Yes.
885
00:53:54,464 --> 00:53:56,633
I always believed there
was alien life out there.
886
00:53:56,666 --> 00:54:00,770
We cannot be the only
ones in the universe alone.
887
00:54:04,474 --> 00:54:07,043
- I never seen any astronauts.
888
00:54:07,077 --> 00:54:08,812
I never seen any.
889
00:54:08,845 --> 00:54:10,513
But I do believe that they exist.
890
00:54:10,547 --> 00:54:14,050
And I believe certain people can see them.
891
00:54:15,318 --> 00:54:17,454
- I don't ask anyone
to believe a word I say
892
00:54:17,487 --> 00:54:19,990
in regard to whatever this is.
893
00:54:21,591 --> 00:54:25,762
That's the sketch when I
thought the baby had died.
894
00:54:26,730 --> 00:54:28,565
I was doubting myself,
895
00:54:29,733 --> 00:54:33,303
but I knew that the experiences were real,
896
00:54:33,336 --> 00:54:36,506
because I've seen them when I'm awake.
897
00:54:37,540 --> 00:54:39,909
I mean, the little hairy guy,
the insect being,
898
00:54:39,943 --> 00:54:42,545
the guys floating down from out of the sky.
899
00:54:42,579 --> 00:54:45,081
Those were not dreams.
900
00:54:45,115 --> 00:54:47,651
You wanna say they're interplanetary, fine.
901
00:54:47,684 --> 00:54:48,885
They're intergalactic, fine.
902
00:54:48,918 --> 00:54:50,587
Another universe, fine.
903
00:54:50,620 --> 00:54:53,723
Another dimension, I don't know.
904
00:54:53,757 --> 00:54:55,191
I just don't know.
905
00:54:55,225 --> 00:54:58,528
You know, it doesn't really matter to me.
906
00:54:58,561 --> 00:55:01,398
I know they exist, I know they're real,
907
00:55:01,431 --> 00:55:03,233
and that's enough for me.
908
00:55:03,266 --> 00:55:04,944
I mean,
if they ever tell me where they're from,
909
00:55:04,968 --> 00:55:06,503
I'll let you know.
910
00:55:09,372 --> 00:55:13,510
I miss her, but she's where she is,
and I am where I am.
911
00:55:14,644 --> 00:55:17,147
I don't know what else to say.
912
00:55:18,081 --> 00:55:20,450
- Would you
have left the Earth forever
913
00:55:20,483 --> 00:55:24,287
to stay the rest of your life with her?
914
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,022
- I think so, yes.
915
00:55:27,624 --> 00:55:31,594
I mean, if they had said yes,
I would've gone with them,
916
00:55:31,628 --> 00:55:33,430
and I would've stayed.
917
00:55:33,463 --> 00:55:35,465
But it didn't work out that way.
918
00:55:39,836 --> 00:55:42,605
No,
I don't think I would've missed it at all.
919
00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:44,974
I would not have missed Earth at all.
920
00:55:46,743 --> 00:55:50,880
The Earth is getting warmer,
and warmer, and warmer,
921
00:55:51,781 --> 00:55:55,952
floods, tornadoes, fires,
plus the war on terrorism.
922
00:55:59,189 --> 00:56:00,990
No, I wouldn't miss this.
923
00:56:01,024 --> 00:56:02,659
I wouldn't miss it at all.
924
00:56:18,108 --> 00:56:20,176
- Maybe in the center of eye level.
925
00:56:20,210 --> 00:56:22,579
And then I'll sort of build out,
926
00:56:22,612 --> 00:56:23,856
so I just put a little cluster around it.
927
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,081
- Yeah.
928
00:56:25,115 --> 00:56:26,850
- I'll suppose I'll get it so
929
00:56:26,883 --> 00:56:27,784
it doesn't look so cluttered.
930
00:56:27,817 --> 00:56:29,519
If I have it side by side like that,
931
00:56:29,552 --> 00:56:31,554
that's gonna look a little
too...
932
00:56:54,010 --> 00:56:55,845
- I think there it is.
933
00:57:01,818 --> 00:57:02,818
Okay.
934
00:57:14,030 --> 00:57:18,635
- So, David,
what are you feeling now?
935
00:57:18,668 --> 00:57:19,803
- I feel fine.
936
00:57:19,836 --> 00:57:22,338
I mean,
I'm not nervous or anything like that.
937
00:57:22,372 --> 00:57:23,907
- Are you excited?
938
00:57:23,940 --> 00:57:24,940
- Yeah.
939
00:57:29,279 --> 00:57:33,450
The paintings are gonna be the impression.
940
00:57:33,483 --> 00:57:36,719
Whatever they think is what they think.
941
00:57:38,555 --> 00:57:40,366
- When
showing publicly like this,
942
00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:43,560
what do you hope people take away?
943
00:57:43,593 --> 00:57:46,362
- That there is another reality,
944
00:57:46,396 --> 00:57:50,233
and that,
well that's basically someone else.
945
00:58:11,754 --> 00:58:13,523
When I was seventeen.
946
00:58:21,965 --> 00:58:23,275
- Why are you chuckling?
947
00:58:23,299 --> 00:58:26,803
- Oh, it's just the expression on my face.
948
00:58:29,939 --> 00:58:32,375
Yeah, it's a nice space.
949
00:58:43,453 --> 00:58:47,390
- The atmosphere is really incredible.
950
00:58:47,423 --> 00:58:49,893
Like you just kinda feel
like you're in this room.
951
00:58:56,466 --> 00:58:57,333
- I really like it.
952
00:58:57,367 --> 00:59:00,169
I like that it's kinda open.
953
00:59:00,203 --> 00:59:03,706
It adds something to it,
and I really love the colors.
954
00:59:03,740 --> 00:59:07,043
I just find it really
soothing to look at it.
955
00:59:07,076 --> 00:59:08,645
- This might not be so bad.
956
00:59:08,678 --> 00:59:11,147
- Right.
957
00:59:11,180 --> 00:59:13,216
- Yeah, I had an experience.
958
00:59:13,249 --> 00:59:15,685
I don't remember it in
as much detail as you,
959
00:59:15,718 --> 00:59:19,455
but I do remember
being taken aboard a ship,
960
00:59:19,489 --> 00:59:21,491
and then also given a little
961
00:59:21,524 --> 00:59:25,061
child to hold, a little hybrid child.
962
00:59:25,094 --> 00:59:27,230
I don't have this level of detail.
963
00:59:27,263 --> 00:59:31,434
When you look at these,
it could stimulate a memory.
964
00:59:33,269 --> 00:59:36,005
- And is that like an alien bug,
or what is the...
965
00:59:36,039 --> 00:59:38,174
- That's the praying mantis type being.
966
00:59:38,207 --> 00:59:39,409
- Okay.
967
00:59:39,442 --> 00:59:41,010
- He's not a bug.
968
00:59:41,044 --> 00:59:43,012
- I'm not even sure, I think he
969
00:59:43,046 --> 00:59:46,783
looks more like this or that. - Okay.
970
00:59:46,816 --> 00:59:49,319
- And there is this door, an opening,
971
00:59:49,352 --> 00:59:52,255
and was filled with all this light.
972
00:59:52,288 --> 00:59:54,357
And then I had to come out.
973
00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:55,992
And the next morning I woke up.
974
00:59:56,025 --> 00:59:58,895
Man I was so energetic, and I am so
975
00:59:58,928 --> 01:00:01,397
energized you would not believe.
976
01:00:01,431 --> 01:00:04,300
Somebody pushes my head forward,
977
01:00:04,334 --> 01:00:07,403
and I start nursing on the breast again.
978
01:00:07,437 --> 01:00:09,072
Teaching them how to nurse.
979
01:00:09,105 --> 01:00:10,106
- Yeah.
980
01:00:10,139 --> 01:00:11,240
- Anyway, I...
981
01:00:12,208 --> 01:00:13,585
- You're teaching the babies how to nurse.
982
01:00:13,609 --> 01:00:14,444
- Yes.
983
01:00:14,477 --> 01:00:16,713
And I turned around, and he is coming
984
01:00:16,746 --> 01:00:20,083
right out of the woods straight toward me.
985
01:00:20,116 --> 01:00:23,453
Beep, beep, beep.
986
01:00:23,486 --> 01:00:27,056
It was instantaneous,
it was like clockwork.
987
01:00:27,090 --> 01:00:28,257
- Did they always take you,
988
01:00:28,291 --> 01:00:30,226
or did they sometimes come visit?
989
01:00:30,259 --> 01:00:31,361
- Oh, they come and visit.
990
01:00:31,394 --> 01:00:32,729
- Oh, they do?
991
01:00:32,762 --> 01:00:34,464
- Yeah, this takes place in my bedroom.
992
01:00:34,497 --> 01:00:35,865
- Oh, okay.
993
01:00:35,898 --> 01:00:37,767
- Does this still reoccur?
994
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:38,601
- Yes.
995
01:00:38,634 --> 01:00:40,136
- Continues to reoccur?
996
01:00:40,169 --> 01:00:41,738
That's fascinating.
997
01:00:41,771 --> 01:00:45,174
- When did you
sort of decide to start?
998
01:00:46,342 --> 01:00:48,044
- I was with the beings one day,
999
01:00:48,077 --> 01:00:50,680
and they said, "Let David do paintings"
1000
01:00:50,713 --> 01:00:53,483
So, I started doing the paintings.
1001
01:00:53,516 --> 01:00:55,818
It was a catharsis.
1002
01:00:55,852 --> 01:00:58,388
I mean, alright I've done one painting.
1003
01:00:58,421 --> 01:00:59,756
Let me do another one,
1004
01:00:59,789 --> 01:01:02,725
another, and another,
and another, and another.
1005
01:01:02,759 --> 01:01:04,627
I've got about a hundred paintings.
1006
01:01:04,660 --> 01:01:06,996
And that was it, that was it.
1007
01:01:08,097 --> 01:01:09,565
- That one.
1008
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:12,035
- That one that has a kind of urn head.
1009
01:01:18,541 --> 01:01:19,509
- What was that like?
1010
01:01:19,542 --> 01:01:21,811
- Oh, I enjoyed it very much.
1011
01:01:21,844 --> 01:01:25,748
I'm so glad that people enjoyed my work.
1012
01:01:25,782 --> 01:01:27,950
They found it informative,
1013
01:01:31,254 --> 01:01:35,058
off the wall.
1014
01:01:42,065 --> 01:01:44,167
Full moon is out tonight.
1015
01:01:53,776 --> 01:01:54,887
- Do you have any
1016
01:01:54,911 --> 01:01:57,480
last thoughts on the
night or parting words?
1017
01:01:57,513 --> 01:01:59,682
- No, except I had a very good time,
1018
01:01:59,715 --> 01:02:02,318
and I enjoyed myself immensely.
1019
01:02:04,921 --> 01:02:08,224
It was nice watching people's faces
1020
01:02:08,257 --> 01:02:10,893
as they were looking at the paintings.
1021
01:02:15,264 --> 01:02:18,334
All right, I'm gonna get out.
1022
01:02:18,367 --> 01:02:20,636
You got everything that you need?
1023
01:02:20,670 --> 01:02:22,038
- Yeah, thanks.
1024
01:02:22,071 --> 01:02:23,773
- Uh-huh, you too.
1025
01:05:06,369 --> 01:05:08,971
- We have come to visit you in peace
1026
01:05:09,005 --> 01:05:10,573
and with good will.
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- I think what I like about this movie
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is that it's the people
that are the savages,
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and he's the one that's civilized.
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Subtitle Ewerton Henrique
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