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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:16,383 --> 00:00:19,919 - Well, when I was 17 I lost my virginity 2 00:00:19,953 --> 00:00:22,455 to a female extra-terrestrial. 3 00:00:25,225 --> 00:00:27,727 That's all I can say about it. 4 00:01:19,712 --> 00:01:23,583 - David opens his eyes, only to see a pair of glowing eyes 5 00:01:23,616 --> 00:01:25,318 staring back at him. 6 00:01:25,351 --> 00:01:28,521 It was a little hairy guy, and David is not afraid. 7 00:01:28,555 --> 00:01:30,223 He is very calm. 8 00:01:30,256 --> 00:01:33,760 Voice, "David, get dressed, come outside." 9 00:01:34,594 --> 00:01:36,896 Cut to David opening the front door. 10 00:01:36,930 --> 00:01:40,266 He see's the little hairy being, his eyes glowing, 11 00:01:40,300 --> 00:01:41,634 voice, "Follow." 12 00:01:42,702 --> 00:01:45,738 David closes the door behind him and follows. 13 00:01:45,772 --> 00:01:48,174 They cross the field into a line of trees. 14 00:01:48,208 --> 00:01:50,343 There is something on the ground, it is glowing. 15 00:01:50,376 --> 00:01:53,246 They go over to it and go inside. 16 00:01:53,279 --> 00:01:55,748 There are three insect-like beings. 17 00:01:55,782 --> 00:01:59,686 The little hairy being, two of the little men, and a woman. 18 00:01:59,719 --> 00:02:02,355 She is wearing a dark blue cloak. 19 00:02:02,388 --> 00:02:05,758 One of the insect beings comes towards David. 20 00:02:05,792 --> 00:02:07,494 Voice, "Sit." 21 00:02:07,527 --> 00:02:09,496 "Remove clothing. 22 00:02:09,529 --> 00:02:10,529 "Lie down." 23 00:02:11,297 --> 00:02:13,967 David lies down on the bench. 24 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,003 There is an orange yellowish light comes on. 25 00:02:17,036 --> 00:02:18,771 David is looking at the light. 26 00:02:18,805 --> 00:02:21,207 It doesn't hurt his eyes. 27 00:02:21,241 --> 00:02:24,878 He is aware of the beings that are standing over him. 28 00:02:24,911 --> 00:02:27,147 They are touching his body. 29 00:02:27,180 --> 00:02:29,415 David becomes aroused. 30 00:02:29,449 --> 00:02:30,583 The woman is there. 31 00:02:30,617 --> 00:02:33,987 She looks at David and then eases on top of him. 32 00:02:34,020 --> 00:02:37,023 They watch as David and the woman have sex. 33 00:02:37,056 --> 00:02:38,658 Soon it is over. 34 00:02:38,691 --> 00:02:42,729 The woman looks at him, a slight smile on her face. 35 00:02:42,762 --> 00:02:44,097 Woman, "Forget." 36 00:02:45,465 --> 00:02:47,200 David says, "Forget." 37 00:03:28,074 --> 00:03:31,678 My name is David Huggins, I'm 72 years old, 38 00:03:33,046 --> 00:03:36,215 and I live in Hoboken, New Jersey. 39 00:03:43,723 --> 00:03:44,723 Mm, yes. 40 00:03:48,661 --> 00:03:52,165 I do some writing, I'm writing a script. 41 00:03:52,198 --> 00:03:55,668 I have a part, part-time job working at a deli, 42 00:03:55,702 --> 00:03:58,738 and then I come home and I paint. 43 00:03:58,771 --> 00:04:01,040 Would you like some coffee? 44 00:04:02,875 --> 00:04:07,046 I do meditation occasionally, just to calm myself down. 45 00:04:09,148 --> 00:04:10,148 Ommm 46 00:04:21,861 --> 00:04:23,396 I throw the I Ching. 47 00:04:26,199 --> 00:04:29,636 There are dreams I'll have which I just don't understand. 48 00:04:29,669 --> 00:04:32,071 And I'll ask the I Ching, what is the meaning 49 00:04:32,105 --> 00:04:34,607 of the dream I had last night? 50 00:04:36,542 --> 00:04:39,012 Hmm, benefit increase. 51 00:04:39,045 --> 00:04:40,713 - What were you asking it? 52 00:04:40,747 --> 00:04:44,917 - What do they think of the documentary, the beings. 53 00:04:48,454 --> 00:04:50,556 Let's put this over here. 54 00:04:55,728 --> 00:04:59,899 Pretty stable environment, nothing out of the ordinary, no. 55 00:05:07,006 --> 00:05:11,778 Sometimes I go a few days without eating a thing. 56 00:05:11,811 --> 00:05:14,447 And when I do eat, I make a lot. 57 00:05:19,018 --> 00:05:22,355 I've always enjoyed impressionistic art. 58 00:05:23,189 --> 00:05:25,958 Monet, Renoir, van Gogh. 59 00:05:25,992 --> 00:05:28,161 He was an expressionist, though. 60 00:05:28,194 --> 00:05:31,731 I mean, the style is very fluid, very loose. 61 00:05:31,764 --> 00:05:33,766 Oh, it's just the colors. 62 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,369 The colors are just incredible. 63 00:05:38,304 --> 00:05:42,275 Well, most of the paintings I do are representative. 64 00:05:42,308 --> 00:05:45,712 I did landscapes, still lives, portraits. 65 00:05:46,646 --> 00:05:48,848 I'd say they're impressionist, 66 00:05:48,881 --> 00:05:51,184 but not really impressionistic. 67 00:05:51,217 --> 00:05:55,321 I don't know what you would call them really. 68 00:06:03,496 --> 00:06:05,832 I've always liked this scene. 69 00:06:14,207 --> 00:06:18,678 This is one of my favorites, Son of Frankenstein. 70 00:06:18,711 --> 00:06:21,714 I'm standing before a collection 71 00:06:21,748 --> 00:06:24,517 of science fiction horror movies. 72 00:06:25,818 --> 00:06:29,155 There's a couple of thousand VHS's here. 73 00:06:30,456 --> 00:06:32,024 I just like VHS. 74 00:06:32,058 --> 00:06:34,193 There's something about the tape rolling, 75 00:06:34,227 --> 00:06:36,896 you know, like a regular film. 76 00:06:38,531 --> 00:06:41,768 Let me see, Teenagers from Outer Space. 77 00:06:42,735 --> 00:06:43,970 This is from the 50s. 78 00:06:44,003 --> 00:06:46,906 Remember when they had all those teenage movies? 79 00:06:46,939 --> 00:06:48,374 Oh, The Ghoul. 80 00:06:48,407 --> 00:06:50,576 Yes, with Boris Karloff. 81 00:06:50,610 --> 00:06:54,580 I mean, you got pimples running up and down your spine. 82 00:06:54,614 --> 00:06:56,949 I mean, it's the atmosphere. 83 00:06:59,485 --> 00:07:00,485 Sssssss. 84 00:07:01,788 --> 00:07:05,958 It's about this scientist who turns people into snakes. 85 00:07:05,992 --> 00:07:08,861 The ending is really a stopper. 86 00:07:08,895 --> 00:07:11,964 You see the guy, half snake half man. 87 00:07:13,432 --> 00:07:14,600 The Uninvited. 88 00:07:15,802 --> 00:07:18,104 Oh, this is very good. 89 00:07:18,137 --> 00:07:22,542 I think this is the greatest ghost story ever made. 90 00:07:22,575 --> 00:07:24,877 - Does the name have any meaning 91 00:07:24,911 --> 00:07:27,346 or relation to your encounters too? 92 00:07:27,380 --> 00:07:31,584 - No, they were always invited. 93 00:07:32,752 --> 00:07:36,856 One movie, it's a Doctor Who movie with William Hartnell, 94 00:07:39,091 --> 00:07:41,294 and it's called The Web Planet. 95 00:07:41,327 --> 00:07:45,097 It has giant ants, ant-like creatures in it. 96 00:07:45,131 --> 00:07:48,634 And when I saw it, I just could not stop watching it. 97 00:07:48,668 --> 00:07:52,605 I don't know why, but it seemed familiar to me. 98 00:07:53,806 --> 00:07:55,842 The Thing from Another World. 99 00:07:55,875 --> 00:08:00,546 A saucer crashes, and they find a body frozen in the ice. 100 00:08:00,580 --> 00:08:04,917 It thaws out, and it starts killing people. 101 00:08:04,951 --> 00:08:07,954 I saw it when I was about seven or eight years old. 102 00:08:13,693 --> 00:08:15,828 I grew up in Paulding County, Georgia. 103 00:08:15,862 --> 00:08:18,965 It was all farmland where I lived. 104 00:08:18,998 --> 00:08:22,501 There are vast areas that nobody lived in. 105 00:08:23,502 --> 00:08:25,438 We had a farm. 106 00:08:25,471 --> 00:08:28,674 I had to slop the pigs, cut the grass, 107 00:08:28,708 --> 00:08:31,077 carry in wood for the stove. 108 00:08:31,110 --> 00:08:32,211 I enjoyed it. 109 00:08:36,015 --> 00:08:39,452 My grandparents took me to tent revivals 110 00:08:39,485 --> 00:08:41,854 on several occasions. 111 00:08:41,888 --> 00:08:46,025 The preacher would come on, hellfire and damnation. 112 00:08:47,260 --> 00:08:48,628 There was this woman there, 113 00:08:48,661 --> 00:08:51,364 she just started babbling from what I could tell. 114 00:08:51,397 --> 00:08:53,666 I think it went on for like 15, 20 minutes, 115 00:08:53,699 --> 00:08:55,635 and then it stopped. 116 00:08:55,668 --> 00:08:59,171 You know, and it's like, what is this? 117 00:08:59,205 --> 00:09:02,475 It turned me off to religion big time. 118 00:09:15,388 --> 00:09:17,456 This is a rose bush that I brought 119 00:09:17,490 --> 00:09:20,092 up from Georgia many years ago. 120 00:09:22,695 --> 00:09:25,398 The blooms don't last very long, 121 00:09:25,431 --> 00:09:29,769 but the aroma fills the whole back of the yard. 122 00:09:34,907 --> 00:09:38,744 I like going to fields looking for arrowheads. 123 00:09:41,047 --> 00:09:44,584 I had quite a nice collection at one time. 124 00:09:44,617 --> 00:09:45,918 But that's gone. 125 00:09:48,788 --> 00:09:52,925 Basically, my heritage is English, Choctaw, and Cherokee. 126 00:09:54,226 --> 00:09:57,630 Where our farm was, it was kind of weird, 127 00:09:58,731 --> 00:10:02,335 is that there was a lot of arrowheads there. 128 00:10:03,970 --> 00:10:08,574 And I'm thinking at one time it is where they lived. 129 00:10:12,912 --> 00:10:15,648 This is my mother and my father. 130 00:10:15,681 --> 00:10:19,352 That's my mother, my brother, Marie, and me. 131 00:10:21,754 --> 00:10:25,491 This is me, from School Days. 132 00:10:25,524 --> 00:10:29,462 This was during the time of my first encounter. 133 00:10:32,865 --> 00:10:36,435 My childhood was strange to a certain extent. 134 00:10:36,469 --> 00:10:40,072 I was seeing things, and my parents didn't. 135 00:10:41,707 --> 00:10:45,878 Nobody in my family seemed to see what I was seeing. 136 00:10:51,951 --> 00:10:55,154 My first encounter was when I was eight years old. 137 00:10:55,187 --> 00:10:57,690 I was playing at the base of a tree, 138 00:10:57,723 --> 00:11:01,794 and I hear this voice say, "David, behind you." 139 00:11:01,827 --> 00:11:04,397 And I turned around, and there is this 140 00:11:04,430 --> 00:11:06,766 little hairy guy with large glowing eyes 141 00:11:06,799 --> 00:11:08,968 coming straight toward me. 142 00:11:09,902 --> 00:11:11,170 I thought it was the Bogeyman. 143 00:11:11,203 --> 00:11:13,839 I didn't know what to think of it. 144 00:11:13,873 --> 00:11:16,942 What was interesting is that for a split second 145 00:11:16,976 --> 00:11:20,713 I felt as if I was in his eyes looking at me. 146 00:11:21,647 --> 00:11:25,384 Then I just freaked, and I ran to the barn, 147 00:11:25,418 --> 00:11:28,354 and I glanced back, and the little hairy guy 148 00:11:28,387 --> 00:11:32,491 was turning around and going back into the woods. 149 00:11:33,526 --> 00:11:37,696 The eyes were just glowing, is the best way to put it. 150 00:11:39,331 --> 00:11:40,733 They just glowed. 151 00:11:43,235 --> 00:11:47,706 The next encounter, I went out to the barn to get, 152 00:11:47,740 --> 00:11:50,776 I think it was a baseball or something like that. 153 00:11:50,810 --> 00:11:52,311 And I heard a noise on the other 154 00:11:52,344 --> 00:11:55,381 side of the barn, and I go take a look. 155 00:11:55,414 --> 00:11:58,918 And there is this giant insect like being. 156 00:12:02,088 --> 00:12:05,491 It resembled like a praying mantis. 157 00:12:05,524 --> 00:12:09,328 And I just look at it and started screaming. 158 00:12:09,361 --> 00:12:11,730 As I did, he sprayed me with some type 159 00:12:11,764 --> 00:12:14,166 of bluish gray liquid. 160 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,068 I ran away from the barn, and I notice that 161 00:12:16,102 --> 00:12:20,406 this bluish liquid was evaporating very quickly. 162 00:12:20,439 --> 00:12:22,241 I was very terrified. 163 00:12:22,274 --> 00:12:25,344 It's like, what in the world am I looking at? 164 00:12:25,377 --> 00:12:29,648 And for a eight year old, you don't know what to think. 165 00:12:33,185 --> 00:12:36,222 There was one time I was going over to a friend's house. 166 00:12:36,255 --> 00:12:40,926 And I'm walking behind the barn, I'm going through a field. 167 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,596 And I get the impression I am being watched, 168 00:12:43,629 --> 00:12:45,431 but I didn't anything. 169 00:12:45,464 --> 00:12:49,135 And then I hear a sound like the mooing of a cow. 170 00:12:49,168 --> 00:12:53,172 And I see a head coming up from behind the bush. 171 00:12:55,007 --> 00:12:57,042 And I'm looking at it, and I'm saying, 172 00:12:57,076 --> 00:12:58,711 "Is that a head? 173 00:12:58,744 --> 00:13:00,146 "Are those eyes?" 174 00:13:00,980 --> 00:13:03,482 I start getting scared, and then suddenly, 175 00:13:03,516 --> 00:13:06,819 I said to myself, "Why is it so bright?" 176 00:13:09,588 --> 00:13:13,058 And I just fainted or just fell down, 177 00:13:13,092 --> 00:13:15,261 and curled up into a ball. 178 00:13:17,663 --> 00:13:21,934 And there were several little grays standing around me. 179 00:13:21,967 --> 00:13:26,005 But the next thing I know is that I hear three beeps, 180 00:13:26,038 --> 00:13:29,642 and I'm standing chest deep in these weeds, 181 00:13:30,476 --> 00:13:33,579 and I don't know how I got there. 182 00:13:33,612 --> 00:13:36,248 I was in the back field. 183 00:13:36,282 --> 00:13:38,083 I was looking for arrowheads. 184 00:13:38,117 --> 00:13:40,319 I happened to glance up, and I see about 185 00:13:40,352 --> 00:13:43,956 eight or nine little blue guys drop from the sky, 186 00:13:43,989 --> 00:13:48,027 and they hit the ground running straight toward me. 187 00:13:48,060 --> 00:13:50,229 I took off toward the house. 188 00:13:50,262 --> 00:13:51,540 I went around the front of the house. 189 00:13:51,564 --> 00:13:53,098 I looked underneath our house because 190 00:13:53,132 --> 00:13:55,267 it was on pillars, and I could see 191 00:13:55,301 --> 00:13:58,304 their legs on the other side. 192 00:13:58,337 --> 00:14:02,107 And then they just turned and walked away. 193 00:14:02,141 --> 00:14:04,843 That night, I'm looking out the window, 194 00:14:04,877 --> 00:14:09,048 and who should I see but several of the little guys. 195 00:14:09,982 --> 00:14:13,219 Then I see them come in into my room, 196 00:14:13,252 --> 00:14:15,821 and they take me outside. 197 00:14:15,854 --> 00:14:19,191 And we floated up to some type of craft. 198 00:14:22,595 --> 00:14:24,230 I'm inside a room, a well lit room 199 00:14:24,263 --> 00:14:28,033 with one of the little grays, and a woman comes in. 200 00:14:28,067 --> 00:14:30,769 She has a long rod in her hand. 201 00:14:30,803 --> 00:14:32,371 She tilts my head back. 202 00:14:32,404 --> 00:14:34,673 The little gray guy holds me. 203 00:14:34,707 --> 00:14:37,610 And she thrusts the rod up my nose. 204 00:14:39,445 --> 00:14:42,982 She inserted something inside my nose. 205 00:14:43,015 --> 00:14:45,017 And after she pulled it out, I said, 206 00:14:45,050 --> 00:14:47,386 "You hurt me, you hurt me." 207 00:14:47,419 --> 00:14:50,055 And she says, "Let me see." 208 00:14:50,089 --> 00:14:54,260 And she looked at me, and she made the pain go away. 209 00:14:56,228 --> 00:15:00,132 You know how we tag whales and stuff like that? 210 00:15:02,034 --> 00:15:03,836 I think there were multiple crafts. 211 00:15:03,869 --> 00:15:06,739 But I only say them one at a time. 212 00:15:06,772 --> 00:15:10,943 But they were round, oval shaped, very bright. 213 00:15:10,976 --> 00:15:13,445 Sometimes they were dark. 214 00:15:13,479 --> 00:15:16,348 When they were around there is just 215 00:15:16,382 --> 00:15:19,218 and incredibly beautiful silence. 216 00:15:19,251 --> 00:15:23,522 I mean, it was like I was inside a vacuum or something. 217 00:15:23,555 --> 00:15:27,293 There could be a car outside honking its horn, 218 00:15:27,326 --> 00:15:29,862 and then it would stop. 219 00:15:29,895 --> 00:15:33,799 And there would be nothing, absolutely nothing. 220 00:15:36,802 --> 00:15:39,638 These beings didn't seem hostile at all. 221 00:15:39,672 --> 00:15:41,740 Scared the hell out of me, but no, 222 00:15:41,774 --> 00:15:45,244 there was never any hostility at all. 223 00:15:45,277 --> 00:15:47,012 There's the little grays. 224 00:15:48,147 --> 00:15:49,782 They were small. 225 00:15:49,815 --> 00:15:53,419 I kinda of got the impression they were workers. 226 00:15:53,452 --> 00:15:57,623 The hairy guy, it was his eyes that always got me. 227 00:15:58,791 --> 00:16:01,994 A tall thin being, he had a knob on the back of his head. 228 00:16:02,027 --> 00:16:05,331 He was like the person in charge. 229 00:16:05,364 --> 00:16:07,299 There was the insect being. 230 00:16:07,333 --> 00:16:09,968 He reminded me of a praying mantis. 231 00:16:10,002 --> 00:16:12,771 He was frightening, but he always 232 00:16:12,805 --> 00:16:15,341 spoke to me as if i was a child. 233 00:16:18,010 --> 00:16:20,346 And then there was Crescent. 234 00:16:21,847 --> 00:16:24,950 I was walking in the woods, 235 00:16:24,983 --> 00:16:28,220 and I see a woman sitting under a tree. 236 00:16:29,455 --> 00:16:33,192 And she gets up, and she starts coming toward me. 237 00:16:33,225 --> 00:16:36,295 I become very aroused sexually. 238 00:16:36,328 --> 00:16:39,665 I couldn't get my pants down fast enough. 239 00:16:41,300 --> 00:16:44,636 I fall back on the ground, and I'm lying there, 240 00:16:44,670 --> 00:16:49,308 and she's looking at me, and I reached my climax, 241 00:16:49,341 --> 00:16:50,843 which was quite painful actually. 242 00:16:50,876 --> 00:16:52,678 It was very intense. 243 00:16:52,711 --> 00:16:56,882 And then I'm looking into her eyes and I pass out. 244 00:16:57,950 --> 00:16:59,718 And the next thing I know, I wake up. 245 00:16:59,752 --> 00:17:03,789 I don't know how much later, maybe 15 or 20 minutes. 246 00:17:03,822 --> 00:17:06,892 My pants are down around my knees. 247 00:17:06,925 --> 00:17:10,562 I couldn't understand what they were doing down there. 248 00:17:10,596 --> 00:17:12,698 And so, I quickly got up, 249 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,069 pulled my pants and underwear up, 250 00:17:17,102 --> 00:17:19,037 and I was gone, I left. 251 00:17:20,906 --> 00:17:22,174 Virginity lost. 252 00:17:26,845 --> 00:17:28,514 I figured if anything, I'll be losing it 253 00:17:28,547 --> 00:17:31,417 in the backseat of a Ford, something like that. 254 00:17:31,450 --> 00:17:35,120 But no, no, it didn't work out that way at all. 255 00:17:38,090 --> 00:17:39,925 I couldn't take Georgia anymore. 256 00:17:39,958 --> 00:17:42,661 There was just nothing there. 257 00:17:42,694 --> 00:17:46,031 Well, I always enjoyed drawing and painting. 258 00:17:46,064 --> 00:17:48,467 My parents didn't like it. 259 00:17:48,500 --> 00:17:51,870 I heard about the Art Students League. 260 00:17:51,904 --> 00:17:53,872 So, I wrote a letter to my folks, 261 00:17:53,906 --> 00:17:56,742 told them where I was going, and that was it. 262 00:17:56,775 --> 00:17:59,278 I just got up and I left. 263 00:17:59,311 --> 00:18:00,913 I was 19 years old. 264 00:18:01,914 --> 00:18:03,682 They weren't there when I left, 265 00:18:03,715 --> 00:18:05,551 or they would've stopped me. 266 00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:15,527 This is during the great transit strike 267 00:18:15,561 --> 00:18:18,230 of 1965, '66, somewhere around there. 268 00:18:19,131 --> 00:18:22,401 And there was no buses running or anything like that. 269 00:18:22,434 --> 00:18:24,236 I said, "Oh my god," 'cause this is 270 00:18:24,269 --> 00:18:26,939 gonna be one very wet walk. 271 00:18:26,972 --> 00:18:29,274 And so, anyway, I started walking. 272 00:18:29,308 --> 00:18:32,611 And then when I got to 5th Avenue, I held out my thumb. 273 00:18:32,644 --> 00:18:35,113 I figured, well, hell, I might as well try it. 274 00:18:35,147 --> 00:18:38,417 And this big black car pulls up, stops. 275 00:18:40,319 --> 00:18:43,422 And this woman, she says, "Where are you going?" 276 00:18:43,455 --> 00:18:45,257 I says, "Ma'am, if you can just take me 277 00:18:45,290 --> 00:18:49,895 "across Central Park, I can walk the rest of the way home." 278 00:18:49,928 --> 00:18:51,830 So, she said, "Get in." 279 00:18:54,333 --> 00:18:56,435 We didn't talk very much. 280 00:18:59,805 --> 00:19:04,343 We get there, and I said, "Thank you very much for the ride. 281 00:19:04,376 --> 00:19:06,478 "You saved me a wet walk." 282 00:19:06,512 --> 00:19:09,281 She just nodded her head. 283 00:19:09,314 --> 00:19:12,351 That night I had a very strange dream. 284 00:19:12,384 --> 00:19:16,088 I see this face, it's a woman's face. 285 00:19:16,121 --> 00:19:20,692 But the eyes are closed, and she's coming toward me. 286 00:19:20,726 --> 00:19:25,130 And I don't remember anything else after that. 287 00:19:25,163 --> 00:19:29,334 It was dreamlike, I should say, but it wasn't a dream. 288 00:19:31,136 --> 00:19:35,641 And every time I would wake up in the morning, 289 00:19:35,674 --> 00:19:37,142 I would hear these words. 290 00:19:37,176 --> 00:19:39,778 "We'll be back tonight." 291 00:19:39,811 --> 00:19:42,548 Now, this is going on for months. 292 00:19:43,415 --> 00:19:46,185 You have no idea what I was going through. 293 00:19:46,218 --> 00:19:47,886 "It was only a dream. 294 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,922 "No it wasn't, she's real. 295 00:19:49,955 --> 00:19:51,356 "No, she's not." 296 00:19:51,390 --> 00:19:52,925 I'm going back and forth. 297 00:19:52,958 --> 00:19:55,827 I just did not know what to think. 298 00:19:55,861 --> 00:19:59,064 One morning when I wake up, I hear those words. 299 00:19:59,097 --> 00:20:01,700 "We'll be back tonight." 300 00:20:01,733 --> 00:20:03,802 But I didn't forget them. 301 00:20:05,003 --> 00:20:08,240 I go to the league, and I end the classes. 302 00:20:08,273 --> 00:20:10,842 And as I'm walking home, I'm still having, 303 00:20:10,876 --> 00:20:14,680 "Yes, no, yes, maybe, I don't know." 304 00:20:14,713 --> 00:20:18,884 I pass a florist, and I see these flowers inside the window. 305 00:20:21,620 --> 00:20:24,223 They were pink cyclamens. 306 00:20:24,256 --> 00:20:27,292 And I say, "Well, if she's real, 307 00:20:27,326 --> 00:20:30,095 "then the flowers are hers." 308 00:20:30,128 --> 00:20:34,299 I remember lying in bed, and I say, "Those are for you." 309 00:20:36,168 --> 00:20:38,503 The next morning, I wake up. 310 00:20:39,738 --> 00:20:41,239 Wham, it hit me. 311 00:20:41,273 --> 00:20:43,008 She took the flowers. 312 00:20:43,976 --> 00:20:45,877 I couldn't believe it. 313 00:20:45,911 --> 00:20:48,947 That night, I knew they were gonna come back. 314 00:20:48,981 --> 00:20:52,584 I cleaned up the house, washed some dishes. 315 00:20:53,819 --> 00:20:55,554 Had to be spick and span. 316 00:20:55,587 --> 00:20:58,256 It was like I was gonna have a date. 317 00:20:58,290 --> 00:21:02,294 We weren't going to be going out, but as a date. 318 00:21:06,932 --> 00:21:10,836 That night, we were rubbing our heads together. 319 00:21:16,375 --> 00:21:19,645 Next time you're with your girlfriend, start rubbing heads. 320 00:21:19,678 --> 00:21:21,113 Trust me on this. 321 00:21:24,016 --> 00:21:26,351 There was something very beautiful, 322 00:21:26,385 --> 00:21:28,687 something very lovely about her. 323 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,656 She had a very nice body. 324 00:21:30,689 --> 00:21:32,524 The only thing that was different about her 325 00:21:32,557 --> 00:21:34,993 was that she had very long fingernails, 326 00:21:35,027 --> 00:21:37,362 and she had these very large eyes, 327 00:21:37,396 --> 00:21:39,831 and her face was rather pale. 328 00:21:43,001 --> 00:21:47,873 My relationship with Crescent was warm and friendly, 329 00:21:47,906 --> 00:21:50,509 a little strange. What do I mean little, very strange. 330 00:21:53,412 --> 00:21:55,914 She was my girlfriend, really. 331 00:21:58,216 --> 00:22:01,520 This was one of the first paintings I ever did. 332 00:22:01,553 --> 00:22:03,689 It's not really all that good. 333 00:22:03,722 --> 00:22:07,626 She's on top of me, I reach my climax, 334 00:22:07,659 --> 00:22:10,562 and she and the insect being leave. 335 00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:14,566 I was always having sex with her. 336 00:22:14,599 --> 00:22:17,502 I was on the bottom, and she was on top. 337 00:22:17,536 --> 00:22:20,872 Because I was basically kinda paralyzed. 338 00:22:22,107 --> 00:22:25,043 A very unconventional relationship. 339 00:22:26,211 --> 00:22:29,915 There were a couple of women at the Art Students League. 340 00:22:29,948 --> 00:22:32,484 I would have only one date, and that was it. 341 00:22:32,517 --> 00:22:36,488 They would find some reason not to go out with me again. 342 00:22:36,521 --> 00:22:40,525 But at that time, it was basically Crescent. 343 00:22:47,265 --> 00:22:50,802 I was doing some painting, and then all at once, 344 00:22:50,836 --> 00:22:53,605 the wall opens up, and there is Crescent, 345 00:22:53,638 --> 00:22:55,741 and she's very stressed out. 346 00:22:55,774 --> 00:22:58,310 And she says, "David, the baby's dying." 347 00:22:58,343 --> 00:23:01,113 And I go, "Baby? What baby?" 348 00:23:01,146 --> 00:23:02,581 "Your baby, but it's dying." 349 00:23:02,614 --> 00:23:04,716 And I said, "Show me my baby." 350 00:23:04,750 --> 00:23:06,084 At first she wouldn't do it, 351 00:23:06,118 --> 00:23:09,054 and I had to yell it out three times really loud. 352 00:23:09,087 --> 00:23:10,722 "Show me my baby." 353 00:23:10,756 --> 00:23:13,558 She picks the baby up out of some container 354 00:23:13,592 --> 00:23:15,527 and holds it out in front of her. 355 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,562 And the baby's just like dangling. 356 00:23:17,596 --> 00:23:20,899 And I said, "No, no, no, don't hold the baby like that. 357 00:23:20,932 --> 00:23:23,468 "Cradle the baby in your arms. 358 00:23:23,502 --> 00:23:25,137 "Listen, I've gotta come there." 359 00:23:25,170 --> 00:23:27,038 "No, you're not allowed." 360 00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:29,441 "My baby's dying, and I can't come there? 361 00:23:29,474 --> 00:23:31,042 "What's this?" 362 00:23:31,076 --> 00:23:34,146 And I go and I pass out on my bed. 363 00:23:34,179 --> 00:23:36,648 The next thing I know, I'm there. 364 00:23:36,681 --> 00:23:40,552 The insect being comes over, and he's rather upset with me. 365 00:23:40,585 --> 00:23:42,821 He says, "What are you doing here?" 366 00:23:42,854 --> 00:23:44,289 I said, "My baby's dying. 367 00:23:44,322 --> 00:23:45,824 "I want my baby." 368 00:23:45,857 --> 00:23:48,560 And I see Crescent holding the baby, 369 00:23:48,593 --> 00:23:51,129 but the baby is not moving. 370 00:23:51,163 --> 00:23:53,598 And I reach over to touch it, 371 00:23:53,632 --> 00:23:56,902 and just as I touch it, like static electricity 372 00:23:56,935 --> 00:24:01,106 jumped from my hand to the baby, and the baby moved. 373 00:24:02,174 --> 00:24:06,077 Maybe I was imparting some of my energy to it. 374 00:24:06,111 --> 00:24:08,447 And I say, "Wow, did you see that? 375 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,081 "The baby's moving." 376 00:24:10,115 --> 00:24:13,018 The insect being is looking at me, and he says, 377 00:24:13,051 --> 00:24:14,953 "Come with me." 378 00:24:14,986 --> 00:24:19,291 And we go into another room filled with babies. 379 00:24:19,324 --> 00:24:22,928 And I'm looking at them, and I say, "Oh my god. 380 00:24:22,961 --> 00:24:24,796 "Whose babies are these?" 381 00:24:24,830 --> 00:24:26,164 He points to me. 382 00:24:27,165 --> 00:24:31,336 I wasn't so much as creeped out as I was surprised. 383 00:24:33,038 --> 00:24:34,806 I was just like, whoa, no, no. 384 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,476 I could not believe it at first. 385 00:24:39,978 --> 00:24:43,548 But they were my babies, and I had to help them, 386 00:24:43,582 --> 00:24:46,251 so I wound up touching them all. 387 00:24:49,221 --> 00:24:53,024 There was one time where I had totally flipped. 388 00:24:53,058 --> 00:24:56,728 I was taking off my clothes, and I'm hearing these words, 389 00:24:56,761 --> 00:24:58,797 "Everything is fine, everything is all right." 390 00:24:58,830 --> 00:25:00,665 And I wasn't all right. 391 00:25:00,699 --> 00:25:02,801 I started crying and everything. 392 00:25:02,834 --> 00:25:04,069 I just broke down. 393 00:25:04,102 --> 00:25:07,572 I kept saying, "The baby died, the baby died. 394 00:25:07,606 --> 00:25:10,809 "Oh my god, it's my fault, it's my fault." 395 00:25:10,842 --> 00:25:13,144 "Everything is fine, everything is all right. 396 00:25:13,178 --> 00:25:15,413 "Everything is fine, everything is all right." 397 00:25:15,447 --> 00:25:19,084 And it wasn't fine, and it wasn't all right. 398 00:25:21,019 --> 00:25:24,356 "No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no." 399 00:25:24,389 --> 00:25:28,593 I was carrying on, I was spreading my arms, crying. 400 00:25:28,627 --> 00:25:32,397 These two very large women grab a hold of me, 401 00:25:32,430 --> 00:25:34,866 and they forced me to the floor. 402 00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:37,335 Crescent came running in, and says, 403 00:25:37,369 --> 00:25:39,437 "David, what is the matter?" 404 00:25:39,471 --> 00:25:42,140 And I said, "My baby died." 405 00:25:42,173 --> 00:25:45,510 And I didn't calm down until Crescent said, 406 00:25:45,543 --> 00:25:47,879 "David, the baby didn't die. 407 00:25:47,913 --> 00:25:50,415 "See, here's your baby." 408 00:25:50,448 --> 00:25:54,786 And one of the women comes in holding the baby. 409 00:25:54,819 --> 00:25:57,555 I get up and I go over to it. 410 00:25:57,589 --> 00:26:00,792 And all the guilt or whatever I felt was gone. 411 00:26:07,232 --> 00:26:10,268 This is the morning I woke up. 412 00:26:10,302 --> 00:26:12,170 I heard this voice inside my head. 413 00:26:12,203 --> 00:26:14,673 "The baby is fine, the baby is all right." 414 00:26:14,706 --> 00:26:17,776 It was like letting me know for sure. 415 00:26:26,318 --> 00:26:29,454 there was like this amnesia, or whatever it is, 416 00:26:29,487 --> 00:26:32,557 but every time I'd have an experience with these beings, 417 00:26:32,591 --> 00:26:34,926 whether I saw them during the day or at night, 418 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,528 I always forget it. 419 00:26:37,429 --> 00:26:38,530 It was just incredible. 420 00:26:38,563 --> 00:26:43,001 I should not forget something like that, but I did. 421 00:26:43,034 --> 00:26:46,304 It started coming back August 17, 1987. 422 00:26:49,941 --> 00:26:54,245 They had left me alone for a long period of time. 423 00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:57,882 I got married, and we had Michael. 424 00:26:57,916 --> 00:27:02,620 It seemed like I was living a perfectly normal life 425 00:27:02,654 --> 00:27:05,557 until I started remembering things. 426 00:27:06,891 --> 00:27:10,962 And then it just like, flipped me out. 427 00:27:10,996 --> 00:27:13,932 I was creeping around the house, 428 00:27:13,965 --> 00:27:18,136 because I felt that there was somebody else in the house. 429 00:27:19,004 --> 00:27:22,240 I felt a presence... but I never saw them. 430 00:27:24,175 --> 00:27:25,777 I didn't know what to think. 431 00:27:25,810 --> 00:27:27,879 I was just beside myself. 432 00:27:30,348 --> 00:27:34,352 I was getting nervous, anxious, paranoid really. 433 00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:38,990 I was basically a walking bowl of jello. 434 00:27:39,024 --> 00:27:43,194 I didn't know who to speak to or anything like that. 435 00:27:45,163 --> 00:27:47,999 I heard about Budd Hopkins. 436 00:27:54,372 --> 00:27:56,875 And I tried getting his book. 437 00:28:00,912 --> 00:28:02,514 It was like a compulsion. 438 00:28:02,547 --> 00:28:05,917 It was like I was being led to the book. 439 00:28:08,286 --> 00:28:10,722 I'm going back to the house, 440 00:28:10,755 --> 00:28:13,158 and looking through the book, 441 00:28:13,191 --> 00:28:16,027 and there was this chapter, Other Women Other Men, 442 00:28:16,061 --> 00:28:18,630 and I start reading it. 443 00:28:23,935 --> 00:28:25,570 I go, "Oh my god." 444 00:28:25,603 --> 00:28:29,107 This is the woman I never told anyone about. 445 00:28:29,140 --> 00:28:33,311 As I was reading it, memory upon memory come flooding back. 446 00:28:34,479 --> 00:28:37,682 It was just like image upon image, upon image. 447 00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:39,117 It wouldn't stop. 448 00:28:40,385 --> 00:28:41,719 I think what bothered me the most 449 00:28:41,753 --> 00:28:44,556 is I didn't know what to do with it. 450 00:28:44,589 --> 00:28:46,491 I was so scared. 451 00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:58,203 There was this meeting with these beings, 452 00:28:58,236 --> 00:29:02,373 and the tall thing guys aid, "Let David do paintings." 453 00:29:03,641 --> 00:29:05,276 It took me about three weeks to 454 00:29:05,310 --> 00:29:09,647 get up enough nerve to do my first painting. 455 00:29:09,681 --> 00:29:10,681 But I did. 456 00:29:12,117 --> 00:29:15,553 And that night I got such a restful sleep. 457 00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:37,942 It was just a relief to get the images 458 00:29:37,976 --> 00:29:40,245 down on the canvas. 459 00:29:46,284 --> 00:29:48,419 That's the insect being. 460 00:29:48,453 --> 00:29:50,021 He is always there. 461 00:29:51,489 --> 00:29:53,758 This is my other body. 462 00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:55,793 This is the packaged alien. 463 00:29:55,827 --> 00:29:57,595 It opened it's eyes and mouth, 464 00:29:57,629 --> 00:30:00,165 and it began tapping on the side of the plastic. 465 00:30:00,198 --> 00:30:02,867 I quickly gave it back to him. 466 00:30:02,901 --> 00:30:04,836 It kind of scared me. 467 00:30:04,869 --> 00:30:08,640 It's a UFO over my head, and it is humongous. 468 00:30:10,875 --> 00:30:14,979 I am someplace, it is park-like, it is beautiful. 469 00:30:15,013 --> 00:30:17,115 This is on the other side of the portal, 470 00:30:17,148 --> 00:30:18,883 then it closes up, 471 00:30:18,917 --> 00:30:21,452 and I am someplace else. 472 00:30:21,486 --> 00:30:23,988 We're in space, or at least it 473 00:30:25,223 --> 00:30:27,659 seemed to me we were in space. 474 00:30:27,692 --> 00:30:29,160 We went to this room, 475 00:30:29,194 --> 00:30:31,462 there was this bowl on this table, 476 00:30:31,496 --> 00:30:35,333 and I was supposed to ejaculate into the bowl. 477 00:30:36,401 --> 00:30:37,711 - Not very romantic. 478 00:30:37,735 --> 00:30:38,735 - No. 479 00:30:39,837 --> 00:30:42,207 This is one of the large women, 480 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,410 and I had sex with this woman. 481 00:30:45,443 --> 00:30:48,346 It was quite pleasant, even though 482 00:30:48,379 --> 00:30:51,449 she was bigger than me, and stronger. 483 00:30:55,053 --> 00:30:56,354 I was traumatized. 484 00:30:56,387 --> 00:30:58,790 I'm not saying that I wasn't. 485 00:31:02,627 --> 00:31:06,598 But after I started doing the paintings, 486 00:31:06,631 --> 00:31:09,267 it seemed like I was calming down, 487 00:31:09,300 --> 00:31:12,904 and that I realized that these things had happened to me. 488 00:31:12,937 --> 00:31:15,106 And I was able to face it. 489 00:31:19,244 --> 00:31:20,979 Oops, out of staples. 490 00:31:26,317 --> 00:31:27,317 Okay. 491 00:31:32,991 --> 00:31:36,027 I see the image in my head, and I start 492 00:31:36,060 --> 00:31:39,897 drawing the image image or painting the image. 493 00:31:44,669 --> 00:31:46,537 There was like, I don't know, 494 00:31:46,571 --> 00:31:49,641 something orangey about his eyes. 495 00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:54,445 He was just standing there looking at me. 496 00:31:54,479 --> 00:31:56,414 And I went and told my father, 497 00:31:56,447 --> 00:31:59,417 and he came back very angry with me. 498 00:31:59,450 --> 00:32:02,086 "There's nobody out there! 499 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,955 "Boy, quit making things up." 500 00:32:03,988 --> 00:32:05,423 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 501 00:32:10,028 --> 00:32:13,031 The next day I was behind our house, 502 00:32:14,499 --> 00:32:16,434 and there was Crescent. 503 00:32:18,236 --> 00:32:21,172 I said, "My mama and daddy don't believe me 504 00:32:21,205 --> 00:32:23,041 "when I say I see you. 505 00:32:24,542 --> 00:32:26,144 "I got a whipping." 506 00:32:27,211 --> 00:32:29,914 And as soon as I said it, 507 00:32:29,947 --> 00:32:32,950 I knew she didn't like hearing that. 508 00:32:35,653 --> 00:32:38,222 Then she just stared right into my eyes, 509 00:32:38,256 --> 00:32:41,793 and she says, "Then don't tell them." 510 00:32:41,826 --> 00:32:44,495 After that, I never said a word. 511 00:32:48,666 --> 00:32:50,468 - This is what you were 512 00:32:50,501 --> 00:32:52,003 painting last time I was here. 513 00:32:52,036 --> 00:32:54,605 - Yeah, I just never did finish it. 514 00:33:10,788 --> 00:33:12,323 - As you're painting, 515 00:33:12,357 --> 00:33:14,859 does the memory become clearer? 516 00:33:14,892 --> 00:33:16,627 - Yes, it does, actually. 517 00:33:26,471 --> 00:33:30,274 I usually see 'em rather bright, you know. 518 00:33:30,308 --> 00:33:31,809 But this was dark. 519 00:33:33,978 --> 00:33:35,580 I think it's a UFO. 520 00:33:36,647 --> 00:33:40,118 It wasn't a hole in space, I can tell you that much, 521 00:33:40,151 --> 00:33:41,919 'cause it was moving. 522 00:33:42,954 --> 00:33:44,756 Let me see here, okay. 523 00:33:53,631 --> 00:33:56,968 My mother and father drank a great deal. 524 00:33:59,470 --> 00:34:01,639 If I was anywhere around, I usually 525 00:34:01,672 --> 00:34:04,442 got hit or something like that. 526 00:34:04,475 --> 00:34:07,612 And I just got sick and tired of it. 527 00:34:07,645 --> 00:34:09,213 Sometimes it was with a belt. 528 00:34:09,247 --> 00:34:12,984 Sometimes it was with a switch, rather thick. 529 00:34:21,459 --> 00:34:24,028 And dad was seeing other women. 530 00:34:28,332 --> 00:34:30,435 It was like hell, really. 531 00:34:33,438 --> 00:34:36,140 And I hear this voice inside my head saying, 532 00:34:36,174 --> 00:34:40,144 "If you don't leave now, you never will." 533 00:34:40,178 --> 00:34:41,612 And well, I left. 534 00:34:44,615 --> 00:34:47,418 I'm not strict with Michael at all. 535 00:34:47,452 --> 00:34:51,189 I've never hit him, spare the rod and all that good stuff. 536 00:34:51,222 --> 00:34:52,657 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 537 00:34:58,362 --> 00:35:01,199 There is one time I did one painting 538 00:35:01,232 --> 00:35:03,234 which I totally made up. 539 00:35:04,969 --> 00:35:06,204 I destroyed it. 540 00:35:07,638 --> 00:35:09,340 The main reason why I did it is that 541 00:35:09,373 --> 00:35:12,109 they were very upset with me. 542 00:35:12,143 --> 00:35:14,846 And it was like, "David, do the paintings, 543 00:35:14,879 --> 00:35:17,515 "But don't make anything up." 544 00:35:21,018 --> 00:35:23,821 Now, when this painting dries, 545 00:35:23,855 --> 00:35:25,790 I'm thinking of putting some trees 546 00:35:25,823 --> 00:35:27,792 down here at the bottom. 547 00:35:27,825 --> 00:35:30,461 But I've got to wait until it dries. 548 00:35:30,495 --> 00:35:33,998 - What would you title this painting? 549 00:35:34,031 --> 00:35:35,933 - Something in the Sky? 550 00:35:46,377 --> 00:35:51,249 I'm working on a movie script about my ET experiences. 551 00:35:51,282 --> 00:35:53,151 Right now, I'm up to a point where David 552 00:35:53,184 --> 00:35:57,355 sees his babies in the incubator room, and he is shocked. 553 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,896 And he asks the insect being, "Whose babies are these?" 554 00:36:04,929 --> 00:36:07,865 And the insect being points to him. 555 00:36:08,733 --> 00:36:11,235 And David says to himself, 556 00:36:11,269 --> 00:36:14,539 "How am I going to send these kids to college." 557 00:36:15,773 --> 00:36:18,042 The act of writing is, for me, 558 00:36:18,075 --> 00:36:20,044 similar to painting. 559 00:36:20,077 --> 00:36:24,248 It seems like I get more out of it by writing it by hand. 560 00:36:26,083 --> 00:36:29,020 I just seem to remember a little bit more. 561 00:36:33,224 --> 00:36:36,194 I just remembered something. 562 00:36:36,227 --> 00:36:39,630 There was a time during my teens where 563 00:36:39,664 --> 00:36:42,200 I seemed to float off my bead. 564 00:36:44,969 --> 00:36:48,072 And then as I'm floating off the bed, 565 00:36:49,674 --> 00:36:52,443 I kinda wake up, and then I crash 566 00:36:53,644 --> 00:36:56,447 back down on the bed again. 567 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,283 - What made you just remember that? 568 00:36:59,317 --> 00:37:01,752 - It's what I'm reading here. 569 00:37:02,887 --> 00:37:05,456 I read the book, and then several 570 00:37:05,489 --> 00:37:08,359 months later we got a divorce. 571 00:37:12,296 --> 00:37:16,033 We had been having problems in our marriage. 572 00:37:16,067 --> 00:37:20,104 I know that she knows that something was different about me. 573 00:37:20,137 --> 00:37:23,641 I didn't know how to bring it up. 574 00:37:23,674 --> 00:37:25,109 I said, "We gotta sit down. 575 00:37:25,142 --> 00:37:26,520 "I gotta talk to you about something. 576 00:37:26,544 --> 00:37:29,180 "I have no idea where to start." 577 00:37:31,449 --> 00:37:35,786 But I said, "I have had a experiences as a child 578 00:37:35,820 --> 00:37:38,389 "with all I can say are aliens, 579 00:37:39,256 --> 00:37:43,361 "and there were sexual encounters also." 580 00:37:43,394 --> 00:37:45,096 And that was when it stopped. 581 00:37:45,129 --> 00:37:47,265 "Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 582 00:37:47,298 --> 00:37:49,634 "I don't wanna hear it, I don't wanna hear it. 583 00:37:49,667 --> 00:37:52,303 "I don't wanna hear it, you're crazy." 584 00:37:52,336 --> 00:37:54,038 That was it. 585 00:38:07,351 --> 00:38:10,021 Oh, which one am I looking for? 586 00:38:11,389 --> 00:38:14,492 Yeah, this is a young boy that she showed me 587 00:38:14,525 --> 00:38:16,427 that was mine and hers. 588 00:38:18,262 --> 00:38:21,666 It's like, in a way, I think of Michael. 589 00:38:21,699 --> 00:38:23,634 It's like he has some half brothers 590 00:38:23,668 --> 00:38:25,903 and half sisters someplace. 591 00:38:26,937 --> 00:38:30,174 Well, I told Michael when he was younger, you know. 592 00:38:30,207 --> 00:38:32,343 But I kept it very light. 593 00:38:32,376 --> 00:38:35,246 And I said, "These are people that I know. 594 00:38:35,279 --> 00:38:37,481 "They're from someplace else." 595 00:38:37,515 --> 00:38:38,816 And he would say, "Well, where?" 596 00:38:38,849 --> 00:38:42,053 I said, "I don't know." 597 00:38:42,086 --> 00:38:45,089 This is me holding my son upside down. 598 00:38:45,122 --> 00:38:48,392 He likes to be held that way, I have no idea why. 599 00:38:48,426 --> 00:38:51,062 I've gotta ask him one of these days if he remembers. 600 00:39:02,873 --> 00:39:04,551 - I don't really remember how I found out. 601 00:39:04,575 --> 00:39:07,345 I just remember the paintings. 602 00:39:07,378 --> 00:39:10,414 I just asked, "Who are they? 603 00:39:10,448 --> 00:39:11,782 "What are they?" 604 00:39:15,519 --> 00:39:17,722 I guess, at some point, I was told. 605 00:39:17,755 --> 00:39:20,391 But there was never a moment where 606 00:39:20,424 --> 00:39:24,028 we had a big conversation about it. 607 00:39:24,061 --> 00:39:26,464 I guess my childhood upbringing was 608 00:39:26,497 --> 00:39:29,600 pretty easy going, pretty normal. 609 00:39:29,633 --> 00:39:33,804 Well, the extra terrestrial encounters are unique. 610 00:39:40,678 --> 00:39:44,281 The encounters never impacted my childhood. 611 00:39:45,416 --> 00:39:48,686 It was just something that was going on. 612 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,889 And it never flowed over into my life. 613 00:39:55,926 --> 00:39:58,696 Yeah, I supposed I just accepted it. 614 00:39:58,729 --> 00:40:02,733 I never really questioned it or was very concerned about it. 615 00:40:07,872 --> 00:40:11,609 - I admire him that he believes in certain things. 616 00:40:11,642 --> 00:40:14,645 And nobody has to judge nobody else. 617 00:40:18,149 --> 00:40:20,851 I know David by one day walking 618 00:40:20,885 --> 00:40:23,921 in the store looking for the job. 619 00:40:23,954 --> 00:40:26,590 And he told me he knew how to work in a deli. 620 00:40:26,624 --> 00:40:27,958 And I gave him a chance, 621 00:40:27,992 --> 00:40:31,328 and since then he's still working here. 622 00:40:31,362 --> 00:40:33,964 - Yes, sir, may I help you? 623 00:40:33,998 --> 00:40:36,433 - He's a very quiet person. 624 00:40:36,467 --> 00:40:38,536 He gets along with everybody. 625 00:40:38,569 --> 00:40:40,638 - Just made it a little while ago. 626 00:40:40,671 --> 00:40:41,939 Enjoy. - Thanks. 627 00:40:43,674 --> 00:40:45,910 - I saw his paintings once. 628 00:40:47,912 --> 00:40:50,981 Well, each one believes in his own ideas. 629 00:40:51,015 --> 00:40:52,850 And I respected that. 630 00:40:52,883 --> 00:40:54,285 - Do you believe that 631 00:40:54,318 --> 00:40:56,253 David had these experiences? 632 00:40:56,287 --> 00:40:57,321 - Yes, I do. 633 00:40:58,422 --> 00:41:01,225 That's what he tells me, and I just believe it. 634 00:41:05,830 --> 00:41:06,997 - My name's Nitten. 635 00:41:07,031 --> 00:41:08,866 I live on the block. 636 00:41:08,899 --> 00:41:13,304 And it's a block where everyone has a good time 637 00:41:13,337 --> 00:41:15,906 just hanging on the steps, talk. 638 00:41:15,940 --> 00:41:19,844 And our friend, David, is a very good neighbor 639 00:41:19,877 --> 00:41:23,247 since the last 30 years that I know. 640 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,050 And very quiet. And when you see him, 641 00:41:26,083 --> 00:41:30,387 the most friendliest guy you'll ever meet is David. 642 00:41:30,421 --> 00:41:32,223 And he's actually the last man 643 00:41:32,256 --> 00:41:34,758 standing alone on this block. 644 00:41:34,792 --> 00:41:37,361 We had a lot of people who have gone to heaven, 645 00:41:37,394 --> 00:41:41,398 and he's the only guys who's left here on the block. 646 00:41:41,432 --> 00:41:44,201 No, I haven't heard his unique story. 647 00:41:44,235 --> 00:41:47,171 I would like to hear his unique story. 648 00:41:54,545 --> 00:41:56,614 Oh, beautiful eyes on the alien. 649 00:41:56,647 --> 00:41:57,815 Hypnotic eyes. 650 00:41:59,149 --> 00:42:03,320 So, that's his room, and she's having sexual intercourse. 651 00:42:04,889 --> 00:42:06,290 Wow. 652 00:42:06,323 --> 00:42:08,792 That's something unique, from an alien? 653 00:42:13,998 --> 00:42:18,402 - I have not had sex with aliens or anybody like that. 654 00:42:18,435 --> 00:42:22,172 But the question, would I in the first place? 655 00:42:24,909 --> 00:42:26,777 I've written thousands front page articles 656 00:42:26,810 --> 00:42:28,879 in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle. 657 00:42:28,913 --> 00:42:30,915 I have interviewed Hillary Clinton 658 00:42:30,948 --> 00:42:32,616 many years ago when she was a senator. 659 00:42:32,650 --> 00:42:34,118 I've interviewed Michael Bloomberg, 660 00:42:34,151 --> 00:42:36,787 and the mayors of New York, and other public figures. 661 00:42:36,820 --> 00:42:38,322 I connect with people. 662 00:42:38,355 --> 00:42:40,257 I connect in a very human way, 663 00:42:40,291 --> 00:42:42,993 because there's a human story behind that person. 664 00:42:43,027 --> 00:42:44,895 I do the same thing when I'm dealing with 665 00:42:44,929 --> 00:42:48,632 somebody who claims to have had an experience. 666 00:42:48,666 --> 00:42:52,403 I am involved in the UFO subject very intimately, 667 00:42:52,436 --> 00:42:56,140 both as experiencer and as one who founded 668 00:42:56,173 --> 00:42:59,076 a support group for people who have had 669 00:42:59,109 --> 00:43:01,679 experiences of seeing UFOs, 670 00:43:01,712 --> 00:43:04,181 to having close contact with UFOs. 671 00:43:04,214 --> 00:43:06,283 And the group is called SPACE. 672 00:43:06,317 --> 00:43:08,919 The letters mean Search Project 673 00:43:08,953 --> 00:43:11,622 for Aspects of Close Encounters. 674 00:43:13,057 --> 00:43:16,794 People come to our meeting and tell about their experiences. 675 00:43:16,827 --> 00:43:18,762 And David was one of them. 676 00:43:18,796 --> 00:43:20,764 He showed us some of his artwork. 677 00:43:20,798 --> 00:43:25,369 And that's how we actually formed a friendship. 678 00:43:25,402 --> 00:43:28,505 What David reveals, the way he talks, 679 00:43:29,373 --> 00:43:33,510 the way he does his art, from all that he's told me, 680 00:43:33,544 --> 00:43:35,679 from all that he's shown me, 681 00:43:35,713 --> 00:43:39,984 from his manner and personality and character, 682 00:43:40,017 --> 00:43:42,019 I trust what he says. 683 00:43:42,052 --> 00:43:45,222 And it conveys not only trust, 684 00:43:45,255 --> 00:43:48,025 but commonalities that other people 685 00:43:48,058 --> 00:43:52,463 who also have the ability to sketch and make artwork 686 00:43:52,496 --> 00:43:54,498 which I collected over the years. 687 00:43:54,531 --> 00:43:57,234 This is my own sketch of an experience 688 00:43:57,267 --> 00:43:59,703 in 1993 in Greenwich Village. 689 00:44:00,904 --> 00:44:02,106 I have fun. 690 00:44:02,139 --> 00:44:04,908 This is my balloon alien blown up. 691 00:44:06,877 --> 00:44:09,913 I put him on the bed, and he's reading 692 00:44:09,947 --> 00:44:12,883 UFO Roswell. 693 00:44:14,618 --> 00:44:16,220 What does he think? 694 00:44:17,621 --> 00:44:19,923 Now, why did they choose David Huggins, 695 00:44:19,957 --> 00:44:21,859 for that matter, anybody else? 696 00:44:21,892 --> 00:44:25,929 And David has pondered that for a long time. 697 00:44:25,963 --> 00:44:29,199 And I don't think he has an answer. 698 00:44:29,233 --> 00:44:32,803 - $64 question, I have no idea why. 699 00:44:32,836 --> 00:44:35,406 I mean, I don't consider myself 700 00:44:37,408 --> 00:44:39,510 all that important or special. 701 00:44:39,543 --> 00:44:42,246 I mean, I don't even know what that means anymore. 702 00:44:42,279 --> 00:44:43,680 But they came into my life, 703 00:44:43,714 --> 00:44:47,451 and to a certain degree, they're still there. 704 00:44:51,989 --> 00:44:54,224 Who are these beings? 705 00:44:54,258 --> 00:44:56,627 What do these experiences mean? 706 00:44:56,660 --> 00:44:59,897 And why did these beings choose me? 707 00:44:59,930 --> 00:45:03,467 I don't know, I've never asked these questions. 708 00:45:13,143 --> 00:45:14,578 Okay. 709 00:45:14,611 --> 00:45:16,346 Who are these beings? 710 00:45:19,483 --> 00:45:21,819 Creative power, the Creator. 711 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,689 What do these experiences mean? 712 00:45:28,959 --> 00:45:31,528 What do these experiences mean? 713 00:45:34,598 --> 00:45:35,598 Eight. 714 00:45:37,034 --> 00:45:38,034 39. 715 00:45:40,237 --> 00:45:41,438 Hm, obstacles. 716 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,075 What do these experiences mean? 717 00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:46,109 Obstacles. 718 00:45:48,178 --> 00:45:49,980 Why did these beings choose me? 719 00:46:01,325 --> 00:46:04,094 Okay, let me see what that one is. 720 00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:09,099 Advancement. 721 00:46:09,133 --> 00:46:10,033 It must be Doug. 722 00:46:10,067 --> 00:46:11,001 - Just ring the bell? 723 00:46:11,034 --> 00:46:13,537 Yes, I'll be down in a minute. 724 00:46:18,609 --> 00:46:20,711 - The original Thing, I love. - Yes. 725 00:46:20,744 --> 00:46:23,013 - With James Arness. 726 00:46:23,046 --> 00:46:24,681 - I have a few of those. - Yeah. 727 00:46:24,715 --> 00:46:27,718 That was always a very, very effective film. 728 00:46:27,751 --> 00:46:30,921 - How do you know David? 729 00:46:32,589 --> 00:46:34,224 - I'd heard about you at first. 730 00:46:34,258 --> 00:46:36,093 And then when I met David, 731 00:46:36,126 --> 00:46:38,095 I went into where you were working at Lisa's. 732 00:46:38,128 --> 00:46:39,796 - Right. - And I introduced myself. 733 00:46:39,830 --> 00:46:41,932 I don't have these kinds of experiences at all, 734 00:46:41,965 --> 00:46:46,103 but I'm very, very, good for some reason at spotting things. 735 00:46:46,136 --> 00:46:47,280 One of the reasons why I think 736 00:46:47,304 --> 00:46:49,406 I'm good at it is I actually look up. 737 00:46:49,439 --> 00:46:51,341 When everybody else is walking around 738 00:46:51,375 --> 00:46:52,943 in this town with their head down. 739 00:46:52,976 --> 00:46:54,945 The closest thing that I've had 740 00:46:54,978 --> 00:46:57,247 when I was seeing something was 741 00:46:57,281 --> 00:47:00,083 a sort of a very spiritual feeling. 742 00:47:00,117 --> 00:47:04,221 It was a cooler day, and it was brilliant blue out. 743 00:47:04,254 --> 00:47:05,722 And I was ready to see something. 744 00:47:05,756 --> 00:47:07,691 And I sat on my church steps on 745 00:47:07,724 --> 00:47:10,727 7th and Jefferson, the St. Ann's Church. 746 00:47:10,761 --> 00:47:13,797 I sat there, camera here, just watching, 747 00:47:13,830 --> 00:47:14,965 and watching, and waiting. 748 00:47:14,998 --> 00:47:16,533 And one of the most beautiful sights, 749 00:47:16,567 --> 00:47:20,737 a whitish pearlescent orb came over my head, 750 00:47:20,771 --> 00:47:22,940 stopped directly above me, 751 00:47:23,807 --> 00:47:25,442 I took about 20 pictures of it. 752 00:47:25,475 --> 00:47:28,412 It was beautiful, a diffused pearlescent orb. 753 00:47:28,445 --> 00:47:31,815 And the second I looked down to do something on my camera, 754 00:47:31,848 --> 00:47:33,650 it was gone. 755 00:47:33,684 --> 00:47:35,219 I'm working on an interesting series 756 00:47:35,252 --> 00:47:38,555 of paintings about whistleblowers. 757 00:47:38,589 --> 00:47:42,593 I'm up to almost 60 portraits of whistleblowers. 758 00:47:46,730 --> 00:47:50,234 The town councilor in Whitby, England, 759 00:47:50,267 --> 00:47:53,403 that means he held a political position 760 00:47:53,437 --> 00:47:57,007 and was elected after he came out admitting 761 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,977 that his parents were mantid beings. 762 00:48:00,877 --> 00:48:01,745 So, can you imagine that? 763 00:48:01,778 --> 00:48:03,981 He comes out in public and admits 764 00:48:04,014 --> 00:48:07,451 that his real mother is like a mantid being. 765 00:48:07,484 --> 00:48:10,587 And David paints the mantids, which is interesting. 766 00:48:10,621 --> 00:48:14,091 And he admitted that, and they still 767 00:48:14,124 --> 00:48:17,361 re-elected him as town councilor. 768 00:48:20,030 --> 00:48:21,107 - Okay, you ready? 769 00:48:21,131 --> 00:48:23,033 - Yeah, who is this guy? 770 00:48:23,066 --> 00:48:25,002 - That's Bigfoot. 771 00:48:25,035 --> 00:48:28,171 - And what's his significance? 772 00:48:28,205 --> 00:48:31,541 - He guards our door and holds our hats. 773 00:48:38,348 --> 00:48:40,851 Some of the best and most popular 774 00:48:40,884 --> 00:48:43,720 science fiction writers of all time 775 00:48:43,754 --> 00:48:47,090 had jaw dropping paranormal experiences. 776 00:48:48,825 --> 00:48:52,963 And that's why they wrote the stories they wrote. 777 00:48:52,996 --> 00:48:55,332 It's the paranormal that produces 778 00:48:55,365 --> 00:48:56,833 the science fiction, 779 00:48:56,867 --> 00:48:58,969 and then the science fiction loops back 780 00:48:59,002 --> 00:49:01,471 and influences the paranormal. 781 00:49:01,505 --> 00:49:04,041 It's not just that David remembers 782 00:49:04,074 --> 00:49:05,676 abduction experiences because he has 783 00:49:05,709 --> 00:49:09,813 a thousand VHS tapes of science fiction movies. 784 00:49:09,846 --> 00:49:13,383 It's that he actually collected a thousand 785 00:49:13,417 --> 00:49:16,887 VHS tapes because he had an abduction experience. 786 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,423 It goes both ways I think. 787 00:49:19,456 --> 00:49:24,328 When I spoke to David, I heard a man who is very sincere, 788 00:49:24,361 --> 00:49:28,732 very simple in many ways, whom I really liked immediately. 789 00:49:28,765 --> 00:49:30,033 I mean, he just exudes this 790 00:49:30,067 --> 00:49:32,803 kind of humane personable nature. 791 00:49:34,404 --> 00:49:37,240 And I heard a man who was just telling us 792 00:49:37,274 --> 00:49:39,209 the truth as best he could without 793 00:49:39,242 --> 00:49:42,913 a whole lot of interpretive overlay. 794 00:49:42,946 --> 00:49:45,682 Kind of a humility there. 795 00:49:45,716 --> 00:49:48,719 He's clearly working through his experiences, 796 00:49:48,752 --> 00:49:52,923 and his suffering, and his joy all at the same time. 797 00:49:54,124 --> 00:49:57,694 I'm a professor of religion at Rice University. 798 00:49:57,728 --> 00:49:59,896 I am a historian of religions, 799 00:49:59,930 --> 00:50:03,400 which means I compare religious experiences, 800 00:50:03,433 --> 00:50:05,569 kind of across space and time. 801 00:50:05,602 --> 00:50:06,646 The first half of my career, 802 00:50:06,670 --> 00:50:10,006 I wrote about erotic forms of mysticism. 803 00:50:11,241 --> 00:50:13,377 People's extreme religious experiences 804 00:50:13,410 --> 00:50:15,912 that were also sexual in some way. 805 00:50:15,946 --> 00:50:19,049 It's extremely common actually in the history of religions. 806 00:50:19,082 --> 00:50:21,385 And that's really what brought me to 807 00:50:21,418 --> 00:50:24,788 the theme of the alien abduction literature. 808 00:50:24,821 --> 00:50:27,424 So, really, the alien abduction literature, 809 00:50:27,457 --> 00:50:30,794 in my own mind, is simply a modern secular 810 00:50:30,827 --> 00:50:33,330 form of mystical literature. 811 00:50:33,363 --> 00:50:35,565 I mean, the whole history of religions 812 00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:38,301 is essentially about weird beings 813 00:50:38,335 --> 00:50:39,936 coming from the sky and doing 814 00:50:39,970 --> 00:50:42,005 strange things to human beings. 815 00:50:42,038 --> 00:50:44,808 And historically, those events or encounters 816 00:50:44,841 --> 00:50:46,743 had been framed as angels, or demons, 817 00:50:46,777 --> 00:50:48,945 or Gods, or Goddesses, or what have you. 818 00:50:48,979 --> 00:50:52,149 But in the modern sort of secular world we live in, 819 00:50:52,182 --> 00:50:55,619 they get framed in sort of science fiction. 820 00:50:55,652 --> 00:50:58,021 Most people, when they think of the sacred, 821 00:50:58,055 --> 00:51:00,657 who are not trained in the field, 822 00:51:00,690 --> 00:51:03,160 think of the holy as the good. 823 00:51:03,193 --> 00:51:06,129 So, being holy is about being nice. 824 00:51:06,163 --> 00:51:08,698 But actually, when a human being encounters 825 00:51:08,732 --> 00:51:12,636 the sacred, it's a terrifying experience, 826 00:51:12,669 --> 00:51:15,372 and it's an ecstatic experience. 827 00:51:15,405 --> 00:51:17,707 You are being split open. 828 00:51:17,741 --> 00:51:20,677 So, I'm not surprised at all to see 829 00:51:21,711 --> 00:51:24,948 someone like David say it was scary 830 00:51:24,981 --> 00:51:28,351 and then to paint some of these terrifying images, 831 00:51:28,385 --> 00:51:30,320 and to insist that it was the most 832 00:51:30,353 --> 00:51:32,289 pleasurable events of his life. 833 00:51:32,322 --> 00:51:35,559 And he'd do it again in a heartbeat. 834 00:51:35,592 --> 00:51:37,994 I myself actually had such an experience 835 00:51:38,028 --> 00:51:40,297 in Calcutta in 1989. 836 00:51:40,330 --> 00:51:41,865 It was extremely dramatic, 837 00:51:41,898 --> 00:51:45,168 it was extremely erotic, and it was scary. 838 00:51:45,202 --> 00:51:47,704 It was that single event that, 839 00:51:48,939 --> 00:51:51,241 I think, makes me so sympathetic 840 00:51:51,274 --> 00:51:53,243 to people who've had these experiences, 841 00:51:53,276 --> 00:51:55,212 because I know they happen. 842 00:51:55,245 --> 00:51:56,746 You can't tell me they don't happen. 843 00:51:56,780 --> 00:51:59,883 It happened to me, and I know it happens. 844 00:51:59,916 --> 00:52:02,152 I absolutely think David's being genuine. 845 00:52:02,185 --> 00:52:04,688 You certainly can't talk to him without thinking that. 846 00:52:04,721 --> 00:52:06,823 He's a very humble man. 847 00:52:06,857 --> 00:52:09,826 But I also believe him because his story 848 00:52:09,860 --> 00:52:12,162 is so similar to other stories I've heard 849 00:52:12,195 --> 00:52:14,331 from other people I've worked with, 850 00:52:14,364 --> 00:52:17,834 and got to know very, very, well. 851 00:52:17,868 --> 00:52:20,136 I'm completely convinced they're not lying. 852 00:52:20,170 --> 00:52:21,771 They're being very sincere. 853 00:52:21,805 --> 00:52:26,009 But again, what it is is an entirely different question. 854 00:52:26,042 --> 00:52:30,180 And that's where I think we need a lot more humility. 855 00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:36,419 - Believing is like a funny thing. 856 00:52:36,453 --> 00:52:40,090 It's like, unless we really experience something, 857 00:52:40,123 --> 00:52:44,094 we may often say we believe, but we really don't. 858 00:52:44,127 --> 00:52:47,063 I look at the character of a person, 859 00:52:47,097 --> 00:52:49,199 then I look at "what is the motive?" 860 00:52:49,232 --> 00:52:50,901 I mean, there's no motive. 861 00:52:50,934 --> 00:52:53,069 This is one of the things I thought about. 862 00:52:53,103 --> 00:52:55,605 David has no motive to be telling anything 863 00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:57,607 other than what's real for him. 864 00:52:57,641 --> 00:53:00,076 It's not like he's raking in millions of dollars. 865 00:53:00,110 --> 00:53:03,780 There doesn't seem to be any kind of motive. 866 00:53:03,813 --> 00:53:05,415 - I would think that initially, 867 00:53:05,448 --> 00:53:06,893 if they're not familiar with the subject, 868 00:53:06,917 --> 00:53:09,519 they say, "This is fantasy, this is fiction. 869 00:53:09,553 --> 00:53:12,989 "This is made up to sell paintings," and all that. 870 00:53:13,023 --> 00:53:15,792 And others say, "You must be kidding me. 871 00:53:15,825 --> 00:53:17,994 "There's something wrong with you," or, 872 00:53:18,028 --> 00:53:19,996 "See a psychiatrist, or something." 873 00:53:20,030 --> 00:53:24,000 Some say maybe, maybe, the maybe is very important, 874 00:53:24,034 --> 00:53:25,368 maybe it can be. 875 00:53:27,671 --> 00:53:29,472 - There is always a possibility that 876 00:53:29,506 --> 00:53:31,975 there are other explanations. 877 00:53:32,008 --> 00:53:34,144 But I think the fact that there are 878 00:53:34,177 --> 00:53:35,488 a lot of people in the world that have 879 00:53:35,512 --> 00:53:39,149 had so many similar encounters in so many different ways, 880 00:53:39,182 --> 00:53:40,650 so many different parts of the world 881 00:53:40,684 --> 00:53:42,752 without any form of communication, 882 00:53:42,786 --> 00:53:46,957 that I think this is probably the best explanation. 883 00:53:50,827 --> 00:53:53,163 - Do you believe in extraterrestrials? 884 00:53:53,196 --> 00:53:54,431 - Yes. 885 00:53:54,464 --> 00:53:56,633 I always believed there was alien life out there. 886 00:53:56,666 --> 00:54:00,770 We cannot be the only ones in the universe alone. 887 00:54:04,474 --> 00:54:07,043 - I never seen any astronauts. 888 00:54:07,077 --> 00:54:08,812 I never seen any. 889 00:54:08,845 --> 00:54:10,513 But I do believe that they exist. 890 00:54:10,547 --> 00:54:14,050 And I believe certain people can see them. 891 00:54:15,318 --> 00:54:17,454 - I don't ask anyone to believe a word I say 892 00:54:17,487 --> 00:54:19,990 in regard to whatever this is. 893 00:54:21,591 --> 00:54:25,762 That's the sketch when I thought the baby had died. 894 00:54:26,730 --> 00:54:28,565 I was doubting myself, 895 00:54:29,733 --> 00:54:33,303 but I knew that the experiences were real, 896 00:54:33,336 --> 00:54:36,506 because I've seen them when I'm awake. 897 00:54:37,540 --> 00:54:39,909 I mean, the little hairy guy, the insect being, 898 00:54:39,943 --> 00:54:42,545 the guys floating down from out of the sky. 899 00:54:42,579 --> 00:54:45,081 Those were not dreams. 900 00:54:45,115 --> 00:54:47,651 You wanna say they're interplanetary, fine. 901 00:54:47,684 --> 00:54:48,885 They're intergalactic, fine. 902 00:54:48,918 --> 00:54:50,587 Another universe, fine. 903 00:54:50,620 --> 00:54:53,723 Another dimension, I don't know. 904 00:54:53,757 --> 00:54:55,191 I just don't know. 905 00:54:55,225 --> 00:54:58,528 You know, it doesn't really matter to me. 906 00:54:58,561 --> 00:55:01,398 I know they exist, I know they're real, 907 00:55:01,431 --> 00:55:03,233 and that's enough for me. 908 00:55:03,266 --> 00:55:04,944 I mean, if they ever tell me where they're from, 909 00:55:04,968 --> 00:55:06,503 I'll let you know. 910 00:55:09,372 --> 00:55:13,510 I miss her, but she's where she is, and I am where I am. 911 00:55:14,644 --> 00:55:17,147 I don't know what else to say. 912 00:55:18,081 --> 00:55:20,450 - Would you have left the Earth forever 913 00:55:20,483 --> 00:55:24,287 to stay the rest of your life with her? 914 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,022 - I think so, yes. 915 00:55:27,624 --> 00:55:31,594 I mean, if they had said yes, I would've gone with them, 916 00:55:31,628 --> 00:55:33,430 and I would've stayed. 917 00:55:33,463 --> 00:55:35,465 But it didn't work out that way. 918 00:55:39,836 --> 00:55:42,605 No, I don't think I would've missed it at all. 919 00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:44,974 I would not have missed Earth at all. 920 00:55:46,743 --> 00:55:50,880 The Earth is getting warmer, and warmer, and warmer, 921 00:55:51,781 --> 00:55:55,952 floods, tornadoes, fires, plus the war on terrorism. 922 00:55:59,189 --> 00:56:00,990 No, I wouldn't miss this. 923 00:56:01,024 --> 00:56:02,659 I wouldn't miss it at all. 924 00:56:18,108 --> 00:56:20,176 - Maybe in the center of eye level. 925 00:56:20,210 --> 00:56:22,579 And then I'll sort of build out, 926 00:56:22,612 --> 00:56:23,856 so I just put a little cluster around it. 927 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,081 - Yeah. 928 00:56:25,115 --> 00:56:26,850 - I'll suppose I'll get it so 929 00:56:26,883 --> 00:56:27,784 it doesn't look so cluttered. 930 00:56:27,817 --> 00:56:29,519 If I have it side by side like that, 931 00:56:29,552 --> 00:56:31,554 that's gonna look a little too... 932 00:56:54,010 --> 00:56:55,845 - I think there it is. 933 00:57:01,818 --> 00:57:02,818 Okay. 934 00:57:14,030 --> 00:57:18,635 - So, David, what are you feeling now? 935 00:57:18,668 --> 00:57:19,803 - I feel fine. 936 00:57:19,836 --> 00:57:22,338 I mean, I'm not nervous or anything like that. 937 00:57:22,372 --> 00:57:23,907 - Are you excited? 938 00:57:23,940 --> 00:57:24,940 - Yeah. 939 00:57:29,279 --> 00:57:33,450 The paintings are gonna be the impression. 940 00:57:33,483 --> 00:57:36,719 Whatever they think is what they think. 941 00:57:38,555 --> 00:57:40,366 - When showing publicly like this, 942 00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:43,560 what do you hope people take away? 943 00:57:43,593 --> 00:57:46,362 - That there is another reality, 944 00:57:46,396 --> 00:57:50,233 and that, well that's basically someone else. 945 00:58:11,754 --> 00:58:13,523 When I was seventeen. 946 00:58:21,965 --> 00:58:23,275 - Why are you chuckling? 947 00:58:23,299 --> 00:58:26,803 - Oh, it's just the expression on my face. 948 00:58:29,939 --> 00:58:32,375 Yeah, it's a nice space. 949 00:58:43,453 --> 00:58:47,390 - The atmosphere is really incredible. 950 00:58:47,423 --> 00:58:49,893 Like you just kinda feel like you're in this room. 951 00:58:56,466 --> 00:58:57,333 - I really like it. 952 00:58:57,367 --> 00:59:00,169 I like that it's kinda open. 953 00:59:00,203 --> 00:59:03,706 It adds something to it, and I really love the colors. 954 00:59:03,740 --> 00:59:07,043 I just find it really soothing to look at it. 955 00:59:07,076 --> 00:59:08,645 - This might not be so bad. 956 00:59:08,678 --> 00:59:11,147 - Right. 957 00:59:11,180 --> 00:59:13,216 - Yeah, I had an experience. 958 00:59:13,249 --> 00:59:15,685 I don't remember it in as much detail as you, 959 00:59:15,718 --> 00:59:19,455 but I do remember being taken aboard a ship, 960 00:59:19,489 --> 00:59:21,491 and then also given a little 961 00:59:21,524 --> 00:59:25,061 child to hold, a little hybrid child. 962 00:59:25,094 --> 00:59:27,230 I don't have this level of detail. 963 00:59:27,263 --> 00:59:31,434 When you look at these, it could stimulate a memory. 964 00:59:33,269 --> 00:59:36,005 - And is that like an alien bug, or what is the... 965 00:59:36,039 --> 00:59:38,174 - That's the praying mantis type being. 966 00:59:38,207 --> 00:59:39,409 - Okay. 967 00:59:39,442 --> 00:59:41,010 - He's not a bug. 968 00:59:41,044 --> 00:59:43,012 - I'm not even sure, I think he 969 00:59:43,046 --> 00:59:46,783 looks more like this or that. - Okay. 970 00:59:46,816 --> 00:59:49,319 - And there is this door, an opening, 971 00:59:49,352 --> 00:59:52,255 and was filled with all this light. 972 00:59:52,288 --> 00:59:54,357 And then I had to come out. 973 00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:55,992 And the next morning I woke up. 974 00:59:56,025 --> 00:59:58,895 Man I was so energetic, and I am so 975 00:59:58,928 --> 01:00:01,397 energized you would not believe. 976 01:00:01,431 --> 01:00:04,300 Somebody pushes my head forward, 977 01:00:04,334 --> 01:00:07,403 and I start nursing on the breast again. 978 01:00:07,437 --> 01:00:09,072 Teaching them how to nurse. 979 01:00:09,105 --> 01:00:10,106 - Yeah. 980 01:00:10,139 --> 01:00:11,240 - Anyway, I... 981 01:00:12,208 --> 01:00:13,585 - You're teaching the babies how to nurse. 982 01:00:13,609 --> 01:00:14,444 - Yes. 983 01:00:14,477 --> 01:00:16,713 And I turned around, and he is coming 984 01:00:16,746 --> 01:00:20,083 right out of the woods straight toward me. 985 01:00:20,116 --> 01:00:23,453 Beep, beep, beep. 986 01:00:23,486 --> 01:00:27,056 It was instantaneous, it was like clockwork. 987 01:00:27,090 --> 01:00:28,257 - Did they always take you, 988 01:00:28,291 --> 01:00:30,226 or did they sometimes come visit? 989 01:00:30,259 --> 01:00:31,361 - Oh, they come and visit. 990 01:00:31,394 --> 01:00:32,729 - Oh, they do? 991 01:00:32,762 --> 01:00:34,464 - Yeah, this takes place in my bedroom. 992 01:00:34,497 --> 01:00:35,865 - Oh, okay. 993 01:00:35,898 --> 01:00:37,767 - Does this still reoccur? 994 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:38,601 - Yes. 995 01:00:38,634 --> 01:00:40,136 - Continues to reoccur? 996 01:00:40,169 --> 01:00:41,738 That's fascinating. 997 01:00:41,771 --> 01:00:45,174 - When did you sort of decide to start? 998 01:00:46,342 --> 01:00:48,044 - I was with the beings one day, 999 01:00:48,077 --> 01:00:50,680 and they said, "Let David do paintings" 1000 01:00:50,713 --> 01:00:53,483 So, I started doing the paintings. 1001 01:00:53,516 --> 01:00:55,818 It was a catharsis. 1002 01:00:55,852 --> 01:00:58,388 I mean, alright I've done one painting. 1003 01:00:58,421 --> 01:00:59,756 Let me do another one, 1004 01:00:59,789 --> 01:01:02,725 another, and another, and another, and another. 1005 01:01:02,759 --> 01:01:04,627 I've got about a hundred paintings. 1006 01:01:04,660 --> 01:01:06,996 And that was it, that was it. 1007 01:01:08,097 --> 01:01:09,565 - That one. 1008 01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:12,035 - That one that has a kind of urn head. 1009 01:01:18,541 --> 01:01:19,509 - What was that like? 1010 01:01:19,542 --> 01:01:21,811 - Oh, I enjoyed it very much. 1011 01:01:21,844 --> 01:01:25,748 I'm so glad that people enjoyed my work. 1012 01:01:25,782 --> 01:01:27,950 They found it informative, 1013 01:01:31,254 --> 01:01:35,058 off the wall. 1014 01:01:42,065 --> 01:01:44,167 Full moon is out tonight. 1015 01:01:53,776 --> 01:01:54,887 - Do you have any 1016 01:01:54,911 --> 01:01:57,480 last thoughts on the night or parting words? 1017 01:01:57,513 --> 01:01:59,682 - No, except I had a very good time, 1018 01:01:59,715 --> 01:02:02,318 and I enjoyed myself immensely. 1019 01:02:04,921 --> 01:02:08,224 It was nice watching people's faces 1020 01:02:08,257 --> 01:02:10,893 as they were looking at the paintings. 1021 01:02:15,264 --> 01:02:18,334 All right, I'm gonna get out. 1022 01:02:18,367 --> 01:02:20,636 You got everything that you need? 1023 01:02:20,670 --> 01:02:22,038 - Yeah, thanks. 1024 01:02:22,071 --> 01:02:23,773 - Uh-huh, you too. 1025 01:05:06,369 --> 01:05:08,971 - We have come to visit you in peace 1026 01:05:09,005 --> 01:05:10,573 and with good will. 1027 01:05:11,741 --> 01:05:13,976 - I think what I like about this movie 1028 01:05:14,010 --> 01:05:16,712 is that it's the people that are the savages, 1029 01:05:16,746 --> 01:05:19,682 and he's the one that's civilized. 1030 01:05:19,706 --> 01:05:22,706 Subtitle Ewerton Henrique 1031 01:05:22,730 --> 01:05:25,730 www.opensubtitles.org 77639

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