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St. Joseph Island is
a very isolated area.
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Anything could happen down
there and you wouldn't see it
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or hear it.
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They told him that you don't
want to go down there.
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If you go, you probably won't
come back.
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There was a cabin.
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And inside that cabin were
miserable living conditions.
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The first thing that we found
was a human finger bone.
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The second thing
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was an elbow joint.
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That was the worst thing
to hear.
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No one deserves what happened
to her, no one does.
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I'm so sorry.
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At the time of this
investigation, I was the area
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crime supervisor.
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David Lopez was a man with
a mission, and he was here
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looking for his daughter
who went missing on
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St. Joseph Island.
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Their last known location
was at a cabin
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on a remote piece of property
in Canada.
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I knew
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that I had to send
a detective over there.
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It's very, very remote.
You can't drive there.
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There's bog and marsh and water
and trees and stumps.
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And you have to walk up this
road to get to the cabin out in
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the middle of the bush.
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That officer
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had to walk in there
in the dark.
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It was mire, mud.
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There's so many pitfalls
and dangers out there.
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But he got there.
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The property, it almost looked
like what you would see in
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a horror movie.
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That officer is in there
in the dark.
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But when he was at the cabin,
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he wasn't alone.
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The first time I ever saw
Melody Lopez, it was 1993
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when she had just moved
and she had just gotten to
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school for the day.
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Melody came in
and was stunning.
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Absolutely gorgeous.
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Black hair, dark lipstick,
and I was just like,
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that's gonna be my friend.
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Me and Melody were both 15 so
we went to the mall.
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We went to the arcade.
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Every day, she introduced me to
new music, to new ideas.
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Melody always wanted everybody
just to be themselves.
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Me and Mel were together every
day for that whole summer.
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Melody was
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actively present in
my life for six months,
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but then she moved.
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When Melody was a teenager,
her parents split up.
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So Robin moved to
Eugene, Oregon.
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And they decided that Melody
would live with David in
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Columbus, Ohio.
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Melody was his only child.
David was crazy about her.
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I mean, he just
thought she hung the moon.
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And they had a really special
relationship.
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When she moved to Columbus,
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we kept in touch for so long,
for years.
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We would write letters back
and forth,
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send each other pictures.
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She found a lot of really great
friends when she moved to
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Columbus, and they were all
very punk.
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Melody always took and accepted
everybody for who they were,
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and I think that's one of
the other reasons why she was
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so drawn to the punk community,
because they were themselves
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for themselves,
and didn't care about what
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other people thought.
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I talked to her one day,
and she said she had planned to
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go down to Mardi Gras.
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And I was like,
that sounds so cool.
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And I was like,
"Melody, have fun.
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Be safe.
Let me know when you get back."
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So I remember when she got
back, Melody didn't talk about
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the boys she met.
She met boys all the time.
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But Melody met Shawn,
and she didn't talk about
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anything else that trip.
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I didn't hear much
about the trip.
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I heard about Shawn and how
great he was and how cute
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he was, and she was excited.
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She really was dead set on him
from pretty much
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the very beginning.
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Like, she knew that
he was her one.
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She had found her one person.
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She said, "We're gonna settle
down in Oregon, get married,
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buy a house, all the fun stuff
on the beach."
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And then I learned that
she was pregnant.
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I was so excited when she said
that, because I'm like,
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we're gonna get to be
grownups together.
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We're not gonna be kids.
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Our parents aren't gonna have
to drive us around to visit
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each other.
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They don't have to pay
our phone bills.
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We're gonna be grownups,
and we can see each other
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again, and we can visit.
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I wanted me and her to have
our babies together and grow
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up, and it made me very happy.
But Shawn and Melody had a plan.
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Her dad was a free spirit.
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He had a history of hitchhiking
all over the country.
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David used to hop trains,
and that's something I never
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would have done.
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But he told us stories
about that.
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And Melody wanted to experiment
with that, like David had done.
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Shawn and Melody were planning
to go see Shawn's parents
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who lived in Ottawa.
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They would hitchhike
through Canada,
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maybe hopping some trains to
save money, and then go to
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Eugene, where my sister Robin
was living.
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That was the plan.
That's what she told her dad.
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That's what she told Robin.
That's what they planned to do.
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I don't know a lot
about Shawn.
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I only spoke to Shawn once
for a moment,
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but, uh, he made me
feel worried.
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That trip was going to be
their last big adventure before
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they settled down.
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And then time starts passing,
and Robin and David are not
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hearing anything from Melody.
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They're not getting any more
phone calls, none.
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She would call David every
three or four days and always
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let him know where she was
and who she was with.
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When she fell silent,
that sparked something
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in David.
You just get that intuition.
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So David's wheels were turning.
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David started his own
investigation to
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track her down.
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David was talking to Shawn's
parents, trying to figure out
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what to do.
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David went all over Columbus
looking for
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Melody's friends to talk to
them and see if anybody had
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heard anything,
and nobody had heard.
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It's just silence.
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They were in communication with
Shawn's parents, too.
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They had silence from Shawn,
no phone calls.
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None.
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It was extremely frustrating,
because what were they to do?
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What was Robin to do?
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She's in Eugene,
Oregon, waiting for
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her daughter to
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you know,
suddenly appear there.
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One day, I talked to Robin,
her mother, where she told me
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about someone who showed up
at her house.
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His name was Chris,
Chris Rogers.
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Chris had told Robin that
he had been traveling with
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Mel and Shawn.
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Robin asked where Melody was,
and he got cagey.
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That's when Robin knew
something was definitely wrong.
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Chris had said he left them
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in a cabin.
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Not a nice place, nothing nice.
Scary shack.
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He had said that you
don't want to go down there.
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If you go, you probably
won't come back.
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The last we heard,
Shawn was taking Melody to meet
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his parents, and this guy,
Chris Rogers,
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turned up at
my sister Robin's house
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in Eugene, Oregon.
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Chris was
an interesting character.
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He was pretty rough
around the edges.
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And he basically said that
Melody and Shawn were traveling
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together with him.
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And so they were hitchhiking
outside of Ottawa,
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near where
Shawn's parents lived.
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Chris Rogers was
a drifter, a skateboarder.
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Chris Rogers described himself
as a friend of Shawn's.
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Melody mentioned several
of her friends,
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but she never talked
about Chris.
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Robin had a really hard time
because she didn't know if
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Chris was being honest.
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Chris said they had hitchhiked
to Ottawa, and started
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hitchhiking west to
Sault Ste Marie.
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There's an international rail
line there that
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crosses the border.
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And they were going to pick up
a train there and then head out
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to the US West Coast.
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According to Chris, it was
around August the 4th,
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1999, when they'd been picked
up by a man in a truck whose
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name was Robert.
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They rode with him
into the night.
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He was financially flush enough
that he looked after them.
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He stopped and got 'em snacks
and something to drink.
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You know, everything
seemed fine.
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He seemed really sweet.
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During this time, the driver of
the vehicle, Robert,
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he said, "Well, we live in
St. Joseph Island and that's
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really close to
Sault Ste Marie, Ontario.
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Why don't you come up?
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He talked them into coming
to his cabin.
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They were gonna celebrate
his younger brother's birthday.
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They were gonna have a party
and these are all young people.
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And he invited them to come
and stay with him,
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come and take a break,
relax, come for the party.
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And they decided to do that.
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I don't think they for one
minute believed or knew how
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remote it really was.
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St. Joseph Island is
a very isolated area.
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The forest is so dense and it
goes for miles and miles.
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Lots of trees, lots of old camp
roads that wind in and out
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of the bush.
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Anything could happen down
there and you wouldn't see it
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or hear it.
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To get to the man's cabin...
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...you can't drive there.
You go up and the road ends.
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And they had to walk
a mile up this trail.
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It would be the very early
hours of the morning of
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August the 5th.
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They get to the cabin.
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The driver of the vehicle,
Robert, his cousin and brother
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were there.
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The property was
100% isolated.
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They had a generator,
but there was no hydro,
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there was no water.
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Chris said they had a big
bonfire going, everybody was
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having a good time.
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The next day, they had
a lovely day.
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From what Chris said,
they hung out,
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they had some beers.
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They were a hunting family,
so they played some
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target practice.
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And the decision was made to
stay one more day,
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continue the party.
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There was a lot of alcohol
flowing one evening
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and Melody was tired and had
gone into the cabin.
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Chris had said
Melody went to bed then.
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I can imagine Melody thought
one more day of rest and then
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they were leaving to head home.
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It would have been around
8 o'clock at night
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when they ran out of alcohol.
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And about 9 o'clock that night,
the guys decided that
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they needed more beer.
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And it was cheaper and easier,
apparently, to go across
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the border to get it.
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The United States is
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minimum 45 minutes away.
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Melody was left at the cabin,
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and Robert went with Chris
Rogers and Shawn Barrett.
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When they get to the border,
Shawn didn't have
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his passport with him.
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He got left on the Canadian
side and Chris Rogers
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and Robert crossed over
into Michigan,
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made alcohol purchases.
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Chris Rogers was an American
and had a minor record from
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the United States.
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And because of that,
Chris Rogers was not allowed
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back into Canada.
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So he was turned back,
sent back on the American side.
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Chris was left to make his way
across the United States to
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Oregon, and Shawn and Melody
were gonna follow.
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But apparently Shawn and Melody
had never made it there.
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Melody's parents did not have
the full story.
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And they had
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absolutely no idea anything
more other than the story that
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they get from Chris Rogers.
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It was heartbreaking that
they didn't know where she was.
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Was she still
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at that cabin,
or had they moved on?
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Were they still hitchhiking?
What had happened?
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Nobody knew.
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If it was true,
Shawn and Melody were left here
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in Canada
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at a cabin in the middle
of the bush.
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And they had no idea who
these people are
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or what they were capable
of doing.
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David wanted to file a missing
persons report.
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And he tried to file in Canada
because that's where he last
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heard from her.
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And they said, "Well,
but you live in Columbus
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and she's from Columbus,
so you have to file there."
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And so he tried to file in
Columbus, Ohio.
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And then he was told,
"Yeah, but she's headed to
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Eugene, Oregon, so you have to
file with Eugene, Oregon."
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Even though Melody had never
been there, she was just on
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the way there.
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It was sort of like they were
getting the runaround a lot.
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The police were saying,
"She's an adult.
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She's not missing.
She's just running around."
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Shawn's parents had
the same issue.
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David was aware that she'd been
on a remote piece of property
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in Canada with a man,
but they had
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absolutely no idea anything
more other than
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his name was Robert.
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I was working as a reporter,
and I received a call in
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the office that there was
someone down on St. Joseph
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Island who was looking for
their daughter
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and putting up posters.
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He had contacted various
police agencies.
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But had been for months.
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However, nobody was
really listening.
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Because David, I think, is from
outside of Canada, I don't
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think he knew all the places
that he could go, what was
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available to him.
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So he was going to
the wrong places.
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And they weren't always able to
give him information either.
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It was December of 1999.
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David was about to
give up, and went
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to the border crossing again.
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David was lucky enough to meet
the same border guard that was
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working the night that
Chris got turned back.
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So he remembered Chris.
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The border guard remembered
that whole incident because it
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wasn't a pleasant one.
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So because David had the date
and all the information from
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Chris, the border patrol guy
looked it up, and that's how
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he was able to find the full
name of the person they were
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with, Robert Armstrong.
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And he had a cabin on
St. Joseph Island.
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David wanted to go right now,
wanted to go to the cabin.
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But he was told that Robert
Armstrong had some records of
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sexual assault.
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They were not people that
you just happened to go by
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and knock on their door.
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David was told at the border to
go to Ontario Provincial
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Police, which covers outlying
areas from municipalities.
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The population is
sparser,
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and St. Joseph Island
is their jurisdiction
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and that they would be able
to help.
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The OPP is similar to
a state police force.
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He didn't even know that
the OPP existed, didn't know
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anything about it until then.
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We knew the cabin.
We knew the people.
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David Lopez was a man
with a mission.
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At one point, I remember David
saying, "I thought maybe she was
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being held hostage somewhere."
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So immediately, I assigned
a detective to go to
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the Armstrong property
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and see if anybody's there.
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That officer was
Detective Jason Nickel.
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Detective Nickel had to walk in
there in the dark.
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It was mire, mud.
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There's so many pitfalls
and dangers out there.
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Amazing he got in there without
getting hurt.
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There were wrecked vehicles in
the yard at the man's cabin,
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and they got wrecked on
the road
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trying to get in there.
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There was a wood stove inside
the cabin, but there wasn't
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much firewood around,
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and it was cold.
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When Detective Nickel got
there, it looked like Robert
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Armstrong was no longer there.
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00:26:13,873 --> 00:26:15,842
There's no one else
at the camp.
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The cabin had beds
and mattresses and blankets,
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00:26:28,321 --> 00:26:29,356
but that wasn't all.
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When Detective Nickel
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was sent
to the Armstrong property...
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...inside that cabin was Robert
Armstrong's younger brother,
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Richard Armstrong.
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Richard is there alone
in December
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under miserable
living conditions.
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Richard was 19 years old.
He was vulnerable.
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He was young.
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He eventually told police that
Robert and Dale McCrae,
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00:27:44,998 --> 00:27:47,801
the cousin, left him at
the cabin for the winter.
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00:27:49,769 --> 00:27:53,506
Detective Nickel asked about
Melody, Shawn, and Chris
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00:27:53,606 --> 00:27:57,677
being there, and response was,
can't help you,
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00:27:57,777 --> 00:27:59,913
never saw them,
don't know who they are.
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00:28:02,882 --> 00:28:05,652
From being a police officer,
Jason learned to take
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00:28:05,752 --> 00:28:08,855
their story, listen to them,
write it down,
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00:28:11,091 --> 00:28:12,192
and then when you're done,
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00:28:13,493 --> 00:28:15,662
you can confront them
with their lies.
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00:28:18,498 --> 00:28:21,634
And then Jason said, "I think
those people are still here."
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00:28:25,739 --> 00:28:28,174
And then as Jason pressed him,
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00:28:29,843 --> 00:28:34,647
Richard actually turned around,
and he said, "If my brother knew
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00:28:34,748 --> 00:28:36,282
"I was talking to you,
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00:28:37,684 --> 00:28:38,718
he'll kill me too."
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00:28:40,754 --> 00:28:41,955
And that was suspicious.
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00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:47,460
He wouldn't say what happened
to those two kids because
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he was concerned
about his life.
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00:28:51,097 --> 00:28:54,401
We, at that point,
ensured him of his safety.
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00:28:54,501 --> 00:28:58,705
And we took Richard Armstrong
into protective custody.
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00:29:00,106 --> 00:29:03,777
We put him up in a motel,
and we left an officer with him
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00:29:03,877 --> 00:29:06,513
at all times throughout
the initial stages of
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00:29:06,613 --> 00:29:07,580
this investigation.
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We knew we needed extensive
work and further interviews.
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We needed scene examination.
We needed scene security.
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00:29:18,024 --> 00:29:21,895
We didn't know where Shawn
and Melody were, but we had
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00:29:21,995 --> 00:29:24,898
information that they had been
there, that there was
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00:29:24,998 --> 00:29:31,071
a disruption at the border,
that Chris Rogers, who was part
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00:29:31,171 --> 00:29:36,076
of the traveling companionship,
had said Melody was left
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00:29:36,176 --> 00:29:37,310
at the cabin.
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00:29:37,410 --> 00:29:41,381
We had enough information to
conduct a more exhaustive
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00:29:41,481 --> 00:29:43,516
investigation at
the Armstrong property.
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00:29:46,653 --> 00:29:50,023
We undertook a search
in the area.
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It's a good-sized island,
but it's a prime hunting area.
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00:29:55,095 --> 00:29:59,632
And the Armstrong cabin was
nowhere near any cleared fields
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00:29:59,733 --> 00:30:03,870
nor farm fields.
It's dense, thick, heavy,
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00:30:05,171 --> 00:30:07,240
bush.
We couldn't find them.
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00:30:09,876 --> 00:30:15,315
And then we literally moved
old, rotten, dead trees
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00:30:15,415 --> 00:30:20,020
and threw them to the side
until we got to what looked
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00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:27,060
like was a makeshift grave.
and we just peeled back the top,
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00:30:29,329 --> 00:30:32,265
and then we found
the first bone.
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00:30:36,936 --> 00:30:37,937
My name is
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00:30:38,038 --> 00:30:40,140
Scott
Fairgreave.
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00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,610
I am a PhD
forensic anthropologist.
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00:30:43,710 --> 00:30:48,381
I interpret skeletal remains by
essentially building up
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00:30:48,481 --> 00:30:52,318
a biography of the person in
life from the bones--
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00:30:52,419 --> 00:30:54,087
a bone biography.
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00:30:56,356 --> 00:30:59,426
I came out to the scene because
police had never seen anything
397
00:30:59,526 --> 00:31:00,527
like this before.
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00:31:02,328 --> 00:31:06,766
It was at that point we could
say the bone was a finger bone.
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00:31:08,201 --> 00:31:13,740
But then I focused directly on
the fire pit that,
400
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,909
shall we say,
got my full attention.
401
00:31:20,213 --> 00:31:25,618
It's had so much debris in it.
There wasn't just ash and logs.
402
00:31:26,953 --> 00:31:29,556
There's a cardboard box sitting
in it, full of ash.
403
00:31:31,191 --> 00:31:34,527
What is all the metal debris
that is inside?
404
00:31:37,831 --> 00:31:42,135
Nothing about this looked
typical, looked right.
405
00:31:46,373 --> 00:31:47,707
It's wintertime.
406
00:31:47,807 --> 00:31:52,712
We had tents set up over top of
the fire pit with propane
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00:31:52,812 --> 00:31:54,981
heaters running inside
the tents trying to
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00:31:55,081 --> 00:31:56,049
thaw the ground
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00:31:57,384 --> 00:31:59,886
so we could excavate just even
the fire pit.
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00:32:01,721 --> 00:32:04,858
Then myself and another
officer, we started with
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00:32:04,958 --> 00:32:09,095
shovels and we dug until
we found another bone.
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00:32:11,865 --> 00:32:15,035
The second thing eventually
uncovered in the fire pit
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00:32:16,469 --> 00:32:19,205
was an elbow joint
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00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,708
that had been crushed in place.
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00:32:25,779 --> 00:32:27,347
We have to dig deeper.
416
00:32:30,817 --> 00:32:32,552
Once we had melted the ground,
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00:32:34,521 --> 00:32:38,925
uh, it was producing a lot of
bone, but it was fragmented.
418
00:32:41,494 --> 00:32:46,733
I could say that we had remains
that represented
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00:32:46,833 --> 00:32:48,368
a young male
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00:32:48,468 --> 00:32:50,503
and a young female,
young adults.
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00:32:52,105 --> 00:32:54,541
But as far as a positive
identification was concerned,
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00:32:55,575 --> 00:32:56,810
it wasn't possible.
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00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,418
So the big question in my mind
was, as we were doing that,
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00:33:07,053 --> 00:33:09,956
who died, where did they die,
425
00:33:11,191 --> 00:33:12,192
when did they die,
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00:33:13,259 --> 00:33:14,694
and what was
the manner of death?
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00:33:23,970 --> 00:33:26,940
Robert Armstrong's younger
brother, Richard, was brought
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00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,141
back to the scene.
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00:33:29,943 --> 00:33:32,645
And seeing what the remains
were on the property,
430
00:33:33,613 --> 00:33:35,181
and we pressed him again.
431
00:33:38,385 --> 00:33:40,553
Richard immediately broke.
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00:33:40,653 --> 00:33:45,458
And a statement subsequently
followed with what we believe
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00:33:45,558 --> 00:33:46,559
to be the truth.
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00:33:51,664 --> 00:33:55,735
It was the very early hours of
the morning of the 6th
435
00:33:55,835 --> 00:33:57,871
of August, 1999,
436
00:34:00,306 --> 00:34:06,813
when Robert and Shawn got
back from the trip
437
00:34:06,913 --> 00:34:07,881
across the border,
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00:34:09,149 --> 00:34:12,552
Richard Armstrong,
his cousin Dale McCrae,
439
00:34:12,652 --> 00:34:15,488
and Melody had been asleep
in the cabin.
440
00:34:17,023 --> 00:34:19,659
Robert had developed
an interest in Melody.
441
00:34:23,563 --> 00:34:29,135
Robert Armstrong had made
a comment to Shawn about wanting
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00:34:29,235 --> 00:34:31,971
to have sex with Melody,
and she's pregnant and it won't
443
00:34:32,072 --> 00:34:33,206
matter now anyway.
444
00:34:38,044 --> 00:34:41,381
Shawn took offense to that,
and a fight ensued.
445
00:34:43,817 --> 00:34:46,286
Robert Armstrong took a shovel
446
00:34:59,799 --> 00:35:01,901
and hit Shawn with the shovel.
447
00:35:05,171 --> 00:35:07,040
Robert then went,
448
00:35:08,074 --> 00:35:11,211
retrieved the gun that had been
out during target practice
449
00:35:11,311 --> 00:35:12,679
earlier in the day,
450
00:35:21,154 --> 00:35:23,189
and shot Shawn dead.
451
00:35:26,626 --> 00:35:28,962
Robert Armstrong tells
Dale McCrae,
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00:35:35,068 --> 00:35:37,070
"Grab his feet, help me throw
him on the fire."
453
00:35:38,638 --> 00:35:43,977
Dale McCrae and Robert throw
Shawn Barrett on the campfire
454
00:35:44,077 --> 00:35:47,547
and throw a whole bunch of
firewood on too.
455
00:35:56,423 --> 00:35:57,824
Robert still had the gun.
456
00:35:57,924 --> 00:36:00,794
He wakes Melody up,
tells Melody, "Shawn's outside,
457
00:36:00,894 --> 00:36:01,895
he wants to talk to you."
458
00:36:05,665 --> 00:36:08,835
Melody walks outside and says
to Robert Armstrong,
459
00:36:10,136 --> 00:36:11,137
"Where's Shawn?"
460
00:36:16,843 --> 00:36:20,246
And Robert Armstrong tells her,
"Look in the fire."
461
00:36:23,350 --> 00:36:27,320
Melody turns around saying,
"Don't kill me, don't kill me,
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00:36:27,420 --> 00:36:29,389
please don't kill me,
I'm pregnant."
463
00:36:40,633 --> 00:36:44,170
Robert Armstrong pulls a gun
out and shoots Melody.
464
00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:49,809
Richard Armstrong said
that they put her body
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00:36:51,378 --> 00:36:56,182
into the fire pit as well,
and then they proceeded to burn
466
00:36:56,282 --> 00:37:02,355
all of Shawn's and Melody's
possessions in that fire pit.
467
00:37:06,893 --> 00:37:11,531
We found in the pit itself,
all sorts of artifacts,
468
00:37:11,631 --> 00:37:14,701
but we found a bracelet,
469
00:37:16,603 --> 00:37:19,606
uh, that had some sort of
a Hindi script on it.
470
00:37:20,874 --> 00:37:23,176
It was badly charred
and bent by the heat.
471
00:37:24,511 --> 00:37:27,547
And as it turns out,
Melody's mother
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00:37:28,915 --> 00:37:30,383
has the mate to that bracelet.
473
00:37:30,483 --> 00:37:32,552
They bought them together,
apparently,
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00:37:32,652 --> 00:37:34,487
at some carnival.
475
00:37:36,056 --> 00:37:40,694
The bracelet was key, as it was
the most profound piece of
476
00:37:40,794 --> 00:37:45,665
physical evidence supporting
an identification of Melody.
477
00:38:23,970 --> 00:38:25,472
That was the worst thing
to hear.
478
00:38:25,572 --> 00:38:28,942
She didn't get a chance to
hold her baby.
479
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,983
And that her and Shawn didn't
get a chance to be
480
00:38:37,083 --> 00:38:38,852
the good parents I know
they would have been.
481
00:38:40,553 --> 00:38:43,256
Please excuse me again.
I'm so sorry.
482
00:38:45,191 --> 00:38:47,527
Really tried not to let
the tears go.
483
00:38:50,163 --> 00:38:52,932
And it doesn't matter how
long it's been.
484
00:38:53,033 --> 00:38:54,934
It doesn't get any easier.
485
00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:59,372
I don't think there's any
amount of time that I'll be
486
00:38:59,472 --> 00:39:02,042
able to not be upset when
I talk about this.
487
00:39:03,443 --> 00:39:05,412
Because she didn't--
488
00:39:05,512 --> 00:39:07,881
No one deserves what
happened to her.
489
00:39:07,981 --> 00:39:08,982
No one does.
490
00:39:13,253 --> 00:39:16,756
Robert and Dale were arrested
near their home in Windsor,
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00:39:16,856 --> 00:39:18,658
Ontario in December.
492
00:39:30,136 --> 00:39:34,307
Robert received a life sentence
for the first degree murder of
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00:39:34,407 --> 00:39:39,913
Melody Lopez and second degree
murder for the shooting death
494
00:39:40,013 --> 00:39:40,980
of Shawn Barrett.
495
00:39:43,783 --> 00:39:47,387
Dale McCrae, the cousin of
the Armstrongs, received six
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00:39:47,487 --> 00:39:49,189
years for accessory
after the fact.
497
00:39:50,957 --> 00:39:55,528
His sentence was reversed on
appeal, his defense being that
498
00:39:55,628 --> 00:39:57,097
if he didn't listen,
he was next.
499
00:40:02,235 --> 00:40:04,204
If it wasn't for David Lopez
500
00:40:05,338 --> 00:40:08,408
and what he did,
Shawn and Melody
501
00:40:08,508 --> 00:40:10,176
would still be missing.
502
00:40:11,444 --> 00:40:14,681
The Armstrongs would still be
living their lives,
503
00:40:16,116 --> 00:40:19,452
and no one would know
what happened.
504
00:40:21,554 --> 00:40:23,056
That man would never give up.
505
00:40:25,225 --> 00:40:26,926
He'd be looking for her today.
506
00:40:28,094 --> 00:40:31,231
He was going to
find his daughter,
507
00:40:34,067 --> 00:40:35,035
no question.
508
00:40:39,639 --> 00:40:42,442
And I don't think David
and Robin ever got over it.
509
00:40:44,944 --> 00:40:46,780
Robin passed away
510
00:40:50,383 --> 00:40:52,352
in 2018.
511
00:40:54,087 --> 00:40:58,458
David was ill,
and passed away in 2020.
512
00:41:04,064 --> 00:41:06,733
But maybe they are with
Melody now.
513
00:41:18,545 --> 00:41:20,213
It was a requirement
for Cindy to live in
514
00:41:20,313 --> 00:41:21,548
the middle of nowhere.
515
00:41:22,749 --> 00:41:24,451
Cindy liked to be off
in a cabin.
516
00:41:25,952 --> 00:41:27,220
You might not hear
somebody scream.
517
00:41:31,491 --> 00:41:34,427
Is anybody going to find me?
Are they gonna know how I died?
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