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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,775 --> 00:00:11,411 St. Joseph Island is a very isolated area. 2 00:00:11,511 --> 00:00:13,980 Anything could happen down there and you wouldn't see it 3 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:15,081 or hear it. 4 00:00:18,084 --> 00:00:19,919 They told him that you don't want to go down there. 5 00:00:20,020 --> 00:00:22,322 If you go, you probably won't come back. 6 00:00:28,428 --> 00:00:30,196 There was a cabin. 7 00:00:30,296 --> 00:00:33,667 And inside that cabin were miserable living conditions. 8 00:00:37,671 --> 00:00:41,574 The first thing that we found was a human finger bone. 9 00:00:44,878 --> 00:00:46,179 The second thing 10 00:00:46,279 --> 00:00:48,815 was an elbow joint. 11 00:00:51,184 --> 00:00:52,585 That was the worst thing to hear. 12 00:00:52,686 --> 00:00:56,556 No one deserves what happened to her, no one does. 13 00:00:57,824 --> 00:00:59,125 I'm so sorry. 14 00:01:16,276 --> 00:01:19,346 At the time of this investigation, I was the area 15 00:01:19,446 --> 00:01:20,513 crime supervisor. 16 00:01:22,215 --> 00:01:26,186 David Lopez was a man with a mission, and he was here 17 00:01:26,286 --> 00:01:29,823 looking for his daughter who went missing on 18 00:01:29,923 --> 00:01:31,257 St. Joseph Island. 19 00:01:33,426 --> 00:01:37,497 Their last known location was at a cabin 20 00:01:37,597 --> 00:01:41,234 on a remote piece of property in Canada. 21 00:01:43,103 --> 00:01:44,404 I knew 22 00:01:44,504 --> 00:01:47,741 that I had to send a detective over there. 23 00:01:50,810 --> 00:01:54,581 It's very, very remote. You can't drive there. 24 00:01:58,251 --> 00:02:02,922 There's bog and marsh and water and trees and stumps. 25 00:02:03,023 --> 00:02:09,029 And you have to walk up this road to get to the cabin out in 26 00:02:09,129 --> 00:02:10,897 the middle of the bush. 27 00:02:15,402 --> 00:02:16,636 That officer 28 00:02:16,736 --> 00:02:18,471 had to walk in there in the dark. 29 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,043 It was mire, mud. 30 00:02:25,078 --> 00:02:27,614 There's so many pitfalls and dangers out there. 31 00:02:31,885 --> 00:02:33,853 But he got there. 32 00:02:33,953 --> 00:02:36,990 The property, it almost looked like what you would see in 33 00:02:37,090 --> 00:02:38,091 a horror movie. 34 00:02:44,464 --> 00:02:46,766 That officer is in there in the dark. 35 00:02:51,938 --> 00:02:53,973 But when he was at the cabin, 36 00:02:56,409 --> 00:02:59,579 he wasn't alone. 37 00:03:17,530 --> 00:03:21,768 The first time I ever saw Melody Lopez, it was 1993 38 00:03:23,370 --> 00:03:26,272 when she had just moved and she had just gotten to 39 00:03:26,373 --> 00:03:27,374 school for the day. 40 00:03:27,474 --> 00:03:30,710 Melody came in and was stunning. 41 00:03:30,810 --> 00:03:32,879 Absolutely gorgeous. 42 00:03:32,979 --> 00:03:36,216 Black hair, dark lipstick, and I was just like, 43 00:03:36,316 --> 00:03:38,918 that's gonna be my friend. 44 00:03:39,019 --> 00:03:42,989 Me and Melody were both 15 so we went to the mall. 45 00:03:43,089 --> 00:03:44,324 We went to the arcade. 46 00:03:45,859 --> 00:03:51,331 Every day, she introduced me to new music, to new ideas. 47 00:03:52,632 --> 00:03:54,968 Melody always wanted everybody just to be themselves. 48 00:03:56,002 --> 00:03:59,973 Me and Mel were together every day for that whole summer. 49 00:04:02,676 --> 00:04:04,244 Melody was 50 00:04:04,344 --> 00:04:09,949 actively present in my life for six months, 51 00:04:10,050 --> 00:04:11,451 but then she moved. 52 00:04:14,287 --> 00:04:20,060 When Melody was a teenager, her parents split up. 53 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,063 So Robin moved to Eugene, Oregon. 54 00:04:23,163 --> 00:04:26,599 And they decided that Melody would live with David in 55 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:27,701 Columbus, Ohio. 56 00:04:28,968 --> 00:04:32,839 Melody was his only child. David was crazy about her. 57 00:04:32,939 --> 00:04:36,843 I mean, he just thought she hung the moon. 58 00:04:36,943 --> 00:04:39,179 And they had a really special relationship. 59 00:04:43,883 --> 00:04:45,618 When she moved to Columbus, 60 00:04:45,719 --> 00:04:49,389 we kept in touch for so long, for years. 61 00:04:49,489 --> 00:04:51,891 We would write letters back and forth, 62 00:04:51,991 --> 00:04:53,960 send each other pictures. 63 00:04:54,060 --> 00:04:57,931 She found a lot of really great friends when she moved to 64 00:04:58,031 --> 00:04:59,799 Columbus, and they were all very punk. 65 00:04:59,899 --> 00:05:04,270 Melody always took and accepted everybody for who they were, 66 00:05:04,371 --> 00:05:07,407 and I think that's one of the other reasons why she was 67 00:05:07,507 --> 00:05:12,979 so drawn to the punk community, because they were themselves 68 00:05:13,079 --> 00:05:16,716 for themselves, and didn't care about what 69 00:05:16,816 --> 00:05:18,018 other people thought. 70 00:05:23,189 --> 00:05:26,526 I talked to her one day, and she said she had planned to 71 00:05:26,626 --> 00:05:27,660 go down to Mardi Gras. 72 00:05:28,995 --> 00:05:31,064 And I was like, that sounds so cool. 73 00:05:32,332 --> 00:05:33,767 And I was like, "Melody, have fun. 74 00:05:33,867 --> 00:05:35,702 Be safe. Let me know when you get back." 75 00:05:37,570 --> 00:05:41,274 So I remember when she got back, Melody didn't talk about 76 00:05:41,374 --> 00:05:44,144 the boys she met. She met boys all the time. 77 00:05:44,244 --> 00:05:47,947 But Melody met Shawn, and she didn't talk about 78 00:05:48,048 --> 00:05:49,482 anything else that trip. 79 00:05:49,582 --> 00:05:51,718 I didn't hear much about the trip. 80 00:05:51,818 --> 00:05:55,522 I heard about Shawn and how great he was and how cute 81 00:05:55,622 --> 00:05:57,257 he was, and she was excited. 82 00:06:00,093 --> 00:06:02,729 She really was dead set on him from pretty much 83 00:06:02,829 --> 00:06:04,030 the very beginning. 84 00:06:04,130 --> 00:06:08,435 Like, she knew that he was her one. 85 00:06:08,535 --> 00:06:11,471 She had found her one person. 86 00:06:11,571 --> 00:06:15,175 She said, "We're gonna settle down in Oregon, get married, 87 00:06:15,275 --> 00:06:17,277 buy a house, all the fun stuff on the beach." 88 00:06:17,377 --> 00:06:19,913 And then I learned that she was pregnant. 89 00:06:23,550 --> 00:06:27,120 I was so excited when she said that, because I'm like, 90 00:06:27,220 --> 00:06:29,489 we're gonna get to be grownups together. 91 00:06:29,589 --> 00:06:30,857 We're not gonna be kids. 92 00:06:30,957 --> 00:06:34,194 Our parents aren't gonna have to drive us around to visit 93 00:06:34,294 --> 00:06:35,328 each other. 94 00:06:35,428 --> 00:06:37,464 They don't have to pay our phone bills. 95 00:06:37,564 --> 00:06:40,567 We're gonna be grownups, and we can see each other 96 00:06:40,667 --> 00:06:41,801 again, and we can visit. 97 00:06:41,901 --> 00:06:47,340 I wanted me and her to have our babies together and grow 98 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:52,245 up, and it made me very happy. But Shawn and Melody had a plan. 99 00:06:55,415 --> 00:06:58,118 Her dad was a free spirit. 100 00:07:00,186 --> 00:07:03,289 He had a history of hitchhiking all over the country. 101 00:07:03,390 --> 00:07:06,693 David used to hop trains, and that's something I never 102 00:07:06,793 --> 00:07:08,194 would have done. 103 00:07:08,294 --> 00:07:11,865 But he told us stories about that. 104 00:07:11,965 --> 00:07:17,203 And Melody wanted to experiment with that, like David had done. 105 00:07:17,303 --> 00:07:21,641 Shawn and Melody were planning to go see Shawn's parents 106 00:07:21,741 --> 00:07:23,843 who lived in Ottawa. 107 00:07:23,943 --> 00:07:26,613 They would hitchhike through Canada, 108 00:07:29,049 --> 00:07:33,053 maybe hopping some trains to save money, and then go to 109 00:07:33,153 --> 00:07:35,822 Eugene, where my sister Robin was living. 110 00:07:35,922 --> 00:07:39,125 That was the plan. That's what she told her dad. 111 00:07:39,225 --> 00:07:43,296 That's what she told Robin. That's what they planned to do. 112 00:07:59,846 --> 00:08:02,115 I don't know a lot about Shawn. 113 00:08:02,215 --> 00:08:05,685 I only spoke to Shawn once for a moment, 114 00:08:08,488 --> 00:08:11,458 but, uh, he made me feel worried. 115 00:08:18,298 --> 00:08:21,601 That trip was going to be their last big adventure before 116 00:08:21,701 --> 00:08:22,702 they settled down. 117 00:08:42,322 --> 00:08:46,593 And then time starts passing, and Robin and David are not 118 00:08:46,693 --> 00:08:48,094 hearing anything from Melody. 119 00:08:48,194 --> 00:08:51,431 They're not getting any more phone calls, none. 120 00:08:52,599 --> 00:08:54,801 She would call David every three or four days and always 121 00:08:54,901 --> 00:08:58,038 let him know where she was and who she was with. 122 00:08:58,138 --> 00:09:01,775 When she fell silent, that sparked something 123 00:09:01,875 --> 00:09:04,678 in David. You just get that intuition. 124 00:09:04,778 --> 00:09:07,147 So David's wheels were turning. 125 00:09:07,247 --> 00:09:09,282 David started his own investigation to 126 00:09:09,382 --> 00:09:10,350 track her down. 127 00:09:11,851 --> 00:09:15,689 David was talking to Shawn's parents, trying to figure out 128 00:09:15,789 --> 00:09:16,790 what to do. 129 00:09:18,358 --> 00:09:21,294 David went all over Columbus looking for 130 00:09:22,328 --> 00:09:26,066 Melody's friends to talk to them and see if anybody had 131 00:09:26,166 --> 00:09:28,702 heard anything, and nobody had heard. 132 00:09:28,802 --> 00:09:30,537 It's just silence. 133 00:09:30,637 --> 00:09:33,807 They were in communication with Shawn's parents, too. 134 00:09:33,907 --> 00:09:37,577 They had silence from Shawn, no phone calls. 135 00:09:37,677 --> 00:09:38,712 None. 136 00:09:41,314 --> 00:09:45,485 It was extremely frustrating, because what were they to do? 137 00:09:45,585 --> 00:09:47,053 What was Robin to do? 138 00:09:47,153 --> 00:09:50,490 She's in Eugene, Oregon, waiting for 139 00:09:50,590 --> 00:09:51,925 her daughter to 140 00:09:52,992 --> 00:09:54,461 you know, suddenly appear there. 141 00:10:01,601 --> 00:10:05,538 One day, I talked to Robin, her mother, where she told me 142 00:10:05,638 --> 00:10:08,675 about someone who showed up at her house. 143 00:10:17,550 --> 00:10:20,353 His name was Chris, Chris Rogers. 144 00:10:20,453 --> 00:10:25,025 Chris had told Robin that he had been traveling with 145 00:10:25,125 --> 00:10:26,126 Mel and Shawn. 146 00:10:27,494 --> 00:10:31,131 Robin asked where Melody was, and he got cagey. 147 00:10:34,668 --> 00:10:38,171 That's when Robin knew something was definitely wrong. 148 00:10:41,307 --> 00:10:43,243 Chris had said he left them 149 00:10:44,644 --> 00:10:45,612 in a cabin. 150 00:10:48,481 --> 00:10:52,986 Not a nice place, nothing nice. Scary shack. 151 00:10:54,954 --> 00:10:56,956 He had said that you don't want to go down there. 152 00:10:58,558 --> 00:11:01,194 If you go, you probably won't come back. 153 00:11:12,005 --> 00:11:16,109 The last we heard, Shawn was taking Melody to meet 154 00:11:16,209 --> 00:11:20,180 his parents, and this guy, Chris Rogers, 155 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,383 turned up at my sister Robin's house 156 00:11:23,483 --> 00:11:24,484 in Eugene, Oregon. 157 00:11:27,854 --> 00:11:30,090 Chris was an interesting character. 158 00:11:30,190 --> 00:11:32,625 He was pretty rough around the edges. 159 00:11:32,726 --> 00:11:37,130 And he basically said that Melody and Shawn were traveling 160 00:11:37,230 --> 00:11:39,032 together with him. 161 00:11:41,701 --> 00:11:46,373 And so they were hitchhiking outside of Ottawa, 162 00:11:46,473 --> 00:11:49,642 near where Shawn's parents lived. 163 00:11:49,743 --> 00:11:54,514 Chris Rogers was a drifter, a skateboarder. 164 00:11:54,614 --> 00:11:59,486 Chris Rogers described himself as a friend of Shawn's. 165 00:11:59,586 --> 00:12:01,888 Melody mentioned several of her friends, 166 00:12:03,690 --> 00:12:06,126 but she never talked about Chris. 167 00:12:08,661 --> 00:12:13,933 Robin had a really hard time because she didn't know if 168 00:12:14,034 --> 00:12:15,869 Chris was being honest. 169 00:12:18,138 --> 00:12:21,741 Chris said they had hitchhiked to Ottawa, and started 170 00:12:21,841 --> 00:12:24,144 hitchhiking west to Sault Ste Marie. 171 00:12:29,282 --> 00:12:32,619 There's an international rail line there that 172 00:12:32,719 --> 00:12:34,854 crosses the border. 173 00:12:34,954 --> 00:12:38,792 And they were going to pick up a train there and then head out 174 00:12:38,892 --> 00:12:40,527 to the US West Coast. 175 00:12:45,732 --> 00:12:49,002 According to Chris, it was around August the 4th, 176 00:12:49,102 --> 00:12:55,842 1999, when they'd been picked up by a man in a truck whose 177 00:12:55,942 --> 00:12:56,910 name was Robert. 178 00:13:13,259 --> 00:13:15,161 They rode with him into the night. 179 00:13:20,033 --> 00:13:24,971 He was financially flush enough that he looked after them. 180 00:13:25,071 --> 00:13:28,541 He stopped and got 'em snacks and something to drink. 181 00:13:28,641 --> 00:13:30,643 You know, everything seemed fine. 182 00:13:30,744 --> 00:13:32,278 He seemed really sweet. 183 00:13:34,647 --> 00:13:37,751 During this time, the driver of the vehicle, Robert, 184 00:13:37,851 --> 00:13:41,454 he said, "Well, we live in St. Joseph Island and that's 185 00:13:41,554 --> 00:13:44,157 really close to Sault Ste Marie, Ontario. 186 00:13:44,257 --> 00:13:45,258 Why don't you come up? 187 00:13:50,697 --> 00:13:52,999 He talked them into coming to his cabin. 188 00:13:53,099 --> 00:13:55,869 They were gonna celebrate his younger brother's birthday. 189 00:13:55,969 --> 00:13:59,205 They were gonna have a party and these are all young people. 190 00:14:00,573 --> 00:14:03,109 And he invited them to come and stay with him, 191 00:14:03,209 --> 00:14:07,013 come and take a break, relax, come for the party. 192 00:14:09,582 --> 00:14:10,917 And they decided to do that. 193 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,222 I don't think they for one minute believed or knew how 194 00:14:16,322 --> 00:14:17,624 remote it really was. 195 00:14:22,395 --> 00:14:25,098 St. Joseph Island is a very isolated area. 196 00:14:27,133 --> 00:14:30,270 The forest is so dense and it goes for miles and miles. 197 00:14:34,307 --> 00:14:37,377 Lots of trees, lots of old camp roads that wind in and out 198 00:14:37,477 --> 00:14:38,411 of the bush. 199 00:14:41,715 --> 00:14:44,017 Anything could happen down there and you wouldn't see it 200 00:14:44,117 --> 00:14:45,118 or hear it. 201 00:14:49,689 --> 00:14:52,459 To get to the man's cabin... 202 00:14:56,830 --> 00:15:00,734 ...you can't drive there. You go up and the road ends. 203 00:15:03,069 --> 00:15:07,874 And they had to walk a mile up this trail. 204 00:15:13,513 --> 00:15:17,217 It would be the very early hours of the morning of 205 00:15:17,317 --> 00:15:18,284 August the 5th. 206 00:15:22,188 --> 00:15:24,157 They get to the cabin. 207 00:15:35,802 --> 00:15:38,938 The driver of the vehicle, Robert, his cousin and brother 208 00:15:39,039 --> 00:15:40,040 were there. 209 00:15:46,279 --> 00:15:49,749 The property was 100% isolated. 210 00:15:51,384 --> 00:15:54,254 They had a generator, but there was no hydro, 211 00:15:54,354 --> 00:15:55,622 there was no water. 212 00:15:55,722 --> 00:15:59,159 Chris said they had a big bonfire going, everybody was 213 00:15:59,259 --> 00:16:00,260 having a good time. 214 00:16:06,766 --> 00:16:09,436 The next day, they had a lovely day. 215 00:16:09,536 --> 00:16:12,005 From what Chris said, they hung out, 216 00:16:12,105 --> 00:16:13,340 they had some beers. 217 00:16:14,974 --> 00:16:19,045 They were a hunting family, so they played some 218 00:16:19,145 --> 00:16:20,113 target practice. 219 00:16:23,583 --> 00:16:29,556 And the decision was made to stay one more day, 220 00:16:29,656 --> 00:16:30,990 continue the party. 221 00:16:36,329 --> 00:16:39,933 There was a lot of alcohol flowing one evening 222 00:16:41,534 --> 00:16:44,604 and Melody was tired and had gone into the cabin. 223 00:16:44,704 --> 00:16:48,408 Chris had said Melody went to bed then. 224 00:16:48,508 --> 00:16:54,414 I can imagine Melody thought one more day of rest and then 225 00:16:54,514 --> 00:16:56,616 they were leaving to head home. 226 00:16:59,386 --> 00:17:02,655 It would have been around 8 o'clock at night 227 00:17:04,090 --> 00:17:05,525 when they ran out of alcohol. 228 00:17:07,494 --> 00:17:11,731 And about 9 o'clock that night, the guys decided that 229 00:17:11,831 --> 00:17:14,000 they needed more beer. 230 00:17:16,670 --> 00:17:20,940 And it was cheaper and easier, apparently, to go across 231 00:17:21,041 --> 00:17:22,042 the border to get it. 232 00:17:24,044 --> 00:17:25,345 The United States is 233 00:17:26,446 --> 00:17:28,314 minimum 45 minutes away. 234 00:17:30,050 --> 00:17:32,252 Melody was left at the cabin, 235 00:17:33,820 --> 00:17:38,458 and Robert went with Chris Rogers and Shawn Barrett. 236 00:17:42,295 --> 00:17:45,532 When they get to the border, Shawn didn't have 237 00:17:45,632 --> 00:17:47,367 his passport with him. 238 00:17:47,467 --> 00:17:51,905 He got left on the Canadian side and Chris Rogers 239 00:17:53,106 --> 00:17:57,844 and Robert crossed over into Michigan, 240 00:17:57,944 --> 00:18:00,113 made alcohol purchases. 241 00:18:06,353 --> 00:18:10,390 Chris Rogers was an American and had a minor record from 242 00:18:10,490 --> 00:18:11,491 the United States. 243 00:18:13,893 --> 00:18:18,732 And because of that, Chris Rogers was not allowed 244 00:18:18,832 --> 00:18:19,866 back into Canada. 245 00:18:22,268 --> 00:18:26,439 So he was turned back, sent back on the American side. 246 00:18:26,539 --> 00:18:30,143 Chris was left to make his way across the United States to 247 00:18:30,243 --> 00:18:32,979 Oregon, and Shawn and Melody were gonna follow. 248 00:18:35,015 --> 00:18:38,685 But apparently Shawn and Melody had never made it there. 249 00:18:41,388 --> 00:18:45,392 Melody's parents did not have the full story. 250 00:18:45,492 --> 00:18:46,693 And they had 251 00:18:46,793 --> 00:18:51,798 absolutely no idea anything more other than the story that 252 00:18:51,898 --> 00:18:53,299 they get from Chris Rogers. 253 00:18:54,701 --> 00:18:58,338 It was heartbreaking that they didn't know where she was. 254 00:19:02,676 --> 00:19:03,677 Was she still 255 00:19:04,911 --> 00:19:07,881 at that cabin, or had they moved on? 256 00:19:07,981 --> 00:19:10,984 Were they still hitchhiking? What had happened? 257 00:19:11,084 --> 00:19:12,085 Nobody knew. 258 00:19:13,486 --> 00:19:17,257 If it was true, Shawn and Melody were left here 259 00:19:17,357 --> 00:19:18,324 in Canada 260 00:19:20,293 --> 00:19:23,263 at a cabin in the middle of the bush. 261 00:19:25,865 --> 00:19:28,034 And they had no idea who these people are 262 00:19:29,369 --> 00:19:30,937 or what they were capable of doing. 263 00:19:44,384 --> 00:19:48,154 David wanted to file a missing persons report. 264 00:19:48,254 --> 00:19:54,160 And he tried to file in Canada because that's where he last 265 00:19:54,260 --> 00:19:55,228 heard from her. 266 00:19:57,831 --> 00:20:00,734 And they said, "Well, but you live in Columbus 267 00:20:00,834 --> 00:20:04,738 and she's from Columbus, so you have to file there." 268 00:20:04,838 --> 00:20:09,342 And so he tried to file in Columbus, Ohio. 269 00:20:09,442 --> 00:20:13,546 And then he was told, "Yeah, but she's headed to 270 00:20:13,646 --> 00:20:18,618 Eugene, Oregon, so you have to file with Eugene, Oregon." 271 00:20:18,718 --> 00:20:21,287 Even though Melody had never been there, she was just on 272 00:20:21,388 --> 00:20:22,555 the way there. 273 00:20:22,655 --> 00:20:26,793 It was sort of like they were getting the runaround a lot. 274 00:20:28,294 --> 00:20:30,764 The police were saying, "She's an adult. 275 00:20:30,864 --> 00:20:33,400 She's not missing. She's just running around." 276 00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:36,136 Shawn's parents had the same issue. 277 00:20:37,537 --> 00:20:42,108 David was aware that she'd been on a remote piece of property 278 00:20:42,208 --> 00:20:45,845 in Canada with a man, but they had 279 00:20:45,945 --> 00:20:49,683 absolutely no idea anything more other than 280 00:20:49,783 --> 00:20:51,451 his name was Robert. 281 00:21:21,681 --> 00:21:25,018 I was working as a reporter, and I received a call in 282 00:21:25,118 --> 00:21:28,888 the office that there was someone down on St. Joseph 283 00:21:28,988 --> 00:21:31,358 Island who was looking for their daughter 284 00:21:31,458 --> 00:21:32,926 and putting up posters. 285 00:21:35,595 --> 00:21:38,798 He had contacted various police agencies. 286 00:21:38,898 --> 00:21:40,000 But had been for months. 287 00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:42,702 However, nobody was really listening. 288 00:21:44,437 --> 00:21:48,942 Because David, I think, is from outside of Canada, I don't 289 00:21:49,042 --> 00:21:51,211 think he knew all the places that he could go, what was 290 00:21:51,311 --> 00:21:52,345 available to him. 291 00:21:52,445 --> 00:21:55,348 So he was going to the wrong places. 292 00:21:55,448 --> 00:21:59,486 And they weren't always able to give him information either. 293 00:22:02,155 --> 00:22:06,126 It was December of 1999. 294 00:22:08,828 --> 00:22:11,664 David was about to give up, and went 295 00:22:11,765 --> 00:22:13,333 to the border crossing again. 296 00:22:15,402 --> 00:22:19,205 David was lucky enough to meet the same border guard that was 297 00:22:19,305 --> 00:22:21,808 working the night that Chris got turned back. 298 00:22:25,679 --> 00:22:27,180 So he remembered Chris. 299 00:22:29,516 --> 00:22:32,419 The border guard remembered that whole incident because it 300 00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:33,953 wasn't a pleasant one. 301 00:22:35,955 --> 00:22:39,159 So because David had the date and all the information from 302 00:22:39,259 --> 00:22:42,562 Chris, the border patrol guy looked it up, and that's how 303 00:22:42,662 --> 00:22:46,566 he was able to find the full name of the person they were 304 00:22:46,666 --> 00:22:48,234 with, Robert Armstrong. 305 00:22:50,770 --> 00:22:52,872 And he had a cabin on St. Joseph Island. 306 00:22:55,975 --> 00:23:01,181 David wanted to go right now, wanted to go to the cabin. 307 00:23:01,281 --> 00:23:06,586 But he was told that Robert Armstrong had some records of 308 00:23:06,686 --> 00:23:07,721 sexual assault. 309 00:23:10,457 --> 00:23:13,460 They were not people that you just happened to go by 310 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:14,561 and knock on their door. 311 00:23:17,697 --> 00:23:20,734 David was told at the border to go to Ontario Provincial 312 00:23:20,834 --> 00:23:24,270 Police, which covers outlying areas from municipalities. 313 00:23:29,642 --> 00:23:31,811 The population is sparser, 314 00:23:31,911 --> 00:23:34,714 and St. Joseph Island is their jurisdiction 315 00:23:35,749 --> 00:23:37,851 and that they would be able to help. 316 00:23:37,951 --> 00:23:41,788 The OPP is similar to a state police force. 317 00:23:41,888 --> 00:23:46,026 He didn't even know that the OPP existed, didn't know 318 00:23:46,126 --> 00:23:47,794 anything about it until then. 319 00:24:09,616 --> 00:24:12,886 We knew the cabin. We knew the people. 320 00:24:15,622 --> 00:24:17,957 David Lopez was a man with a mission. 321 00:24:18,058 --> 00:24:22,062 At one point, I remember David saying, "I thought maybe she was 322 00:24:22,162 --> 00:24:23,797 being held hostage somewhere." 323 00:24:32,038 --> 00:24:37,444 So immediately, I assigned a detective to go to 324 00:24:37,544 --> 00:24:38,712 the Armstrong property 325 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,416 and see if anybody's there. 326 00:24:43,516 --> 00:24:46,419 That officer was Detective Jason Nickel. 327 00:24:53,393 --> 00:24:56,963 Detective Nickel had to walk in there in the dark. 328 00:25:09,709 --> 00:25:11,845 It was mire, mud. 329 00:25:11,945 --> 00:25:15,148 There's so many pitfalls and dangers out there. 330 00:25:26,593 --> 00:25:28,395 Amazing he got in there without getting hurt. 331 00:25:36,236 --> 00:25:41,408 There were wrecked vehicles in the yard at the man's cabin, 332 00:25:42,676 --> 00:25:44,077 and they got wrecked on the road 333 00:25:44,177 --> 00:25:45,578 trying to get in there. 334 00:25:58,425 --> 00:26:02,128 There was a wood stove inside the cabin, but there wasn't 335 00:26:02,228 --> 00:26:03,430 much firewood around, 336 00:26:04,464 --> 00:26:05,565 and it was cold. 337 00:26:09,135 --> 00:26:12,138 When Detective Nickel got there, it looked like Robert 338 00:26:12,238 --> 00:26:13,773 Armstrong was no longer there. 339 00:26:13,873 --> 00:26:15,842 There's no one else at the camp. 340 00:26:24,050 --> 00:26:28,221 The cabin had beds and mattresses and blankets, 341 00:26:28,321 --> 00:26:29,356 but that wasn't all. 342 00:26:50,944 --> 00:26:52,012 When Detective Nickel 343 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,250 was sent to the Armstrong property... 344 00:27:19,105 --> 00:27:22,776 ...inside that cabin was Robert Armstrong's younger brother, 345 00:27:22,876 --> 00:27:25,078 Richard Armstrong. 346 00:27:25,178 --> 00:27:28,014 Richard is there alone in December 347 00:27:29,349 --> 00:27:31,017 under miserable living conditions. 348 00:27:34,187 --> 00:27:37,691 Richard was 19 years old. He was vulnerable. 349 00:27:37,791 --> 00:27:40,060 He was young. 350 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,898 He eventually told police that Robert and Dale McCrae, 351 00:27:44,998 --> 00:27:47,801 the cousin, left him at the cabin for the winter. 352 00:27:49,769 --> 00:27:53,506 Detective Nickel asked about Melody, Shawn, and Chris 353 00:27:53,606 --> 00:27:57,677 being there, and response was, can't help you, 354 00:27:57,777 --> 00:27:59,913 never saw them, don't know who they are. 355 00:28:02,882 --> 00:28:05,652 From being a police officer, Jason learned to take 356 00:28:05,752 --> 00:28:08,855 their story, listen to them, write it down, 357 00:28:11,091 --> 00:28:12,192 and then when you're done, 358 00:28:13,493 --> 00:28:15,662 you can confront them with their lies. 359 00:28:18,498 --> 00:28:21,634 And then Jason said, "I think those people are still here." 360 00:28:25,739 --> 00:28:28,174 And then as Jason pressed him, 361 00:28:29,843 --> 00:28:34,647 Richard actually turned around, and he said, "If my brother knew 362 00:28:34,748 --> 00:28:36,282 "I was talking to you, 363 00:28:37,684 --> 00:28:38,718 he'll kill me too." 364 00:28:40,754 --> 00:28:41,955 And that was suspicious. 365 00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:47,460 He wouldn't say what happened to those two kids because 366 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,997 he was concerned about his life. 367 00:28:51,097 --> 00:28:54,401 We, at that point, ensured him of his safety. 368 00:28:54,501 --> 00:28:58,705 And we took Richard Armstrong into protective custody. 369 00:29:00,106 --> 00:29:03,777 We put him up in a motel, and we left an officer with him 370 00:29:03,877 --> 00:29:06,513 at all times throughout the initial stages of 371 00:29:06,613 --> 00:29:07,580 this investigation. 372 00:29:09,983 --> 00:29:13,253 We knew we needed extensive work and further interviews. 373 00:29:13,353 --> 00:29:16,623 We needed scene examination. We needed scene security. 374 00:29:18,024 --> 00:29:21,895 We didn't know where Shawn and Melody were, but we had 375 00:29:21,995 --> 00:29:24,898 information that they had been there, that there was 376 00:29:24,998 --> 00:29:31,071 a disruption at the border, that Chris Rogers, who was part 377 00:29:31,171 --> 00:29:36,076 of the traveling companionship, had said Melody was left 378 00:29:36,176 --> 00:29:37,310 at the cabin. 379 00:29:37,410 --> 00:29:41,381 We had enough information to conduct a more exhaustive 380 00:29:41,481 --> 00:29:43,516 investigation at the Armstrong property. 381 00:29:46,653 --> 00:29:50,023 We undertook a search in the area. 382 00:29:50,123 --> 00:29:54,994 It's a good-sized island, but it's a prime hunting area. 383 00:29:55,095 --> 00:29:59,632 And the Armstrong cabin was nowhere near any cleared fields 384 00:29:59,733 --> 00:30:03,870 nor farm fields. It's dense, thick, heavy, 385 00:30:05,171 --> 00:30:07,240 bush. We couldn't find them. 386 00:30:09,876 --> 00:30:15,315 And then we literally moved old, rotten, dead trees 387 00:30:15,415 --> 00:30:20,020 and threw them to the side until we got to what looked 388 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:27,060 like was a makeshift grave. and we just peeled back the top, 389 00:30:29,329 --> 00:30:32,265 and then we found the first bone. 390 00:30:36,936 --> 00:30:37,937 My name is 391 00:30:38,038 --> 00:30:40,140 Scott Fairgreave. 392 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,610 I am a PhD forensic anthropologist. 393 00:30:43,710 --> 00:30:48,381 I interpret skeletal remains by essentially building up 394 00:30:48,481 --> 00:30:52,318 a biography of the person in life from the bones-- 395 00:30:52,419 --> 00:30:54,087 a bone biography. 396 00:30:56,356 --> 00:30:59,426 I came out to the scene because police had never seen anything 397 00:30:59,526 --> 00:31:00,527 like this before. 398 00:31:02,328 --> 00:31:06,766 It was at that point we could say the bone was a finger bone. 399 00:31:08,201 --> 00:31:13,740 But then I focused directly on the fire pit that, 400 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,909 shall we say, got my full attention. 401 00:31:20,213 --> 00:31:25,618 It's had so much debris in it. There wasn't just ash and logs. 402 00:31:26,953 --> 00:31:29,556 There's a cardboard box sitting in it, full of ash. 403 00:31:31,191 --> 00:31:34,527 What is all the metal debris that is inside? 404 00:31:37,831 --> 00:31:42,135 Nothing about this looked typical, looked right. 405 00:31:46,373 --> 00:31:47,707 It's wintertime. 406 00:31:47,807 --> 00:31:52,712 We had tents set up over top of the fire pit with propane 407 00:31:52,812 --> 00:31:54,981 heaters running inside the tents trying to 408 00:31:55,081 --> 00:31:56,049 thaw the ground 409 00:31:57,384 --> 00:31:59,886 so we could excavate just even the fire pit. 410 00:32:01,721 --> 00:32:04,858 Then myself and another officer, we started with 411 00:32:04,958 --> 00:32:09,095 shovels and we dug until we found another bone. 412 00:32:11,865 --> 00:32:15,035 The second thing eventually uncovered in the fire pit 413 00:32:16,469 --> 00:32:19,205 was an elbow joint 414 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,708 that had been crushed in place. 415 00:32:25,779 --> 00:32:27,347 We have to dig deeper. 416 00:32:30,817 --> 00:32:32,552 Once we had melted the ground, 417 00:32:34,521 --> 00:32:38,925 uh, it was producing a lot of bone, but it was fragmented. 418 00:32:41,494 --> 00:32:46,733 I could say that we had remains that represented 419 00:32:46,833 --> 00:32:48,368 a young male 420 00:32:48,468 --> 00:32:50,503 and a young female, young adults. 421 00:32:52,105 --> 00:32:54,541 But as far as a positive identification was concerned, 422 00:32:55,575 --> 00:32:56,810 it wasn't possible. 423 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,418 So the big question in my mind was, as we were doing that, 424 00:33:07,053 --> 00:33:09,956 who died, where did they die, 425 00:33:11,191 --> 00:33:12,192 when did they die, 426 00:33:13,259 --> 00:33:14,694 and what was the manner of death? 427 00:33:23,970 --> 00:33:26,940 Robert Armstrong's younger brother, Richard, was brought 428 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,141 back to the scene. 429 00:33:29,943 --> 00:33:32,645 And seeing what the remains were on the property, 430 00:33:33,613 --> 00:33:35,181 and we pressed him again. 431 00:33:38,385 --> 00:33:40,553 Richard immediately broke. 432 00:33:40,653 --> 00:33:45,458 And a statement subsequently followed with what we believe 433 00:33:45,558 --> 00:33:46,559 to be the truth. 434 00:33:51,664 --> 00:33:55,735 It was the very early hours of the morning of the 6th 435 00:33:55,835 --> 00:33:57,871 of August, 1999, 436 00:34:00,306 --> 00:34:06,813 when Robert and Shawn got back from the trip 437 00:34:06,913 --> 00:34:07,881 across the border, 438 00:34:09,149 --> 00:34:12,552 Richard Armstrong, his cousin Dale McCrae, 439 00:34:12,652 --> 00:34:15,488 and Melody had been asleep in the cabin. 440 00:34:17,023 --> 00:34:19,659 Robert had developed an interest in Melody. 441 00:34:23,563 --> 00:34:29,135 Robert Armstrong had made a comment to Shawn about wanting 442 00:34:29,235 --> 00:34:31,971 to have sex with Melody, and she's pregnant and it won't 443 00:34:32,072 --> 00:34:33,206 matter now anyway. 444 00:34:38,044 --> 00:34:41,381 Shawn took offense to that, and a fight ensued. 445 00:34:43,817 --> 00:34:46,286 Robert Armstrong took a shovel 446 00:34:59,799 --> 00:35:01,901 and hit Shawn with the shovel. 447 00:35:05,171 --> 00:35:07,040 Robert then went, 448 00:35:08,074 --> 00:35:11,211 retrieved the gun that had been out during target practice 449 00:35:11,311 --> 00:35:12,679 earlier in the day, 450 00:35:21,154 --> 00:35:23,189 and shot Shawn dead. 451 00:35:26,626 --> 00:35:28,962 Robert Armstrong tells Dale McCrae, 452 00:35:35,068 --> 00:35:37,070 "Grab his feet, help me throw him on the fire." 453 00:35:38,638 --> 00:35:43,977 Dale McCrae and Robert throw Shawn Barrett on the campfire 454 00:35:44,077 --> 00:35:47,547 and throw a whole bunch of firewood on too. 455 00:35:56,423 --> 00:35:57,824 Robert still had the gun. 456 00:35:57,924 --> 00:36:00,794 He wakes Melody up, tells Melody, "Shawn's outside, 457 00:36:00,894 --> 00:36:01,895 he wants to talk to you." 458 00:36:05,665 --> 00:36:08,835 Melody walks outside and says to Robert Armstrong, 459 00:36:10,136 --> 00:36:11,137 "Where's Shawn?" 460 00:36:16,843 --> 00:36:20,246 And Robert Armstrong tells her, "Look in the fire." 461 00:36:23,350 --> 00:36:27,320 Melody turns around saying, "Don't kill me, don't kill me, 462 00:36:27,420 --> 00:36:29,389 please don't kill me, I'm pregnant." 463 00:36:40,633 --> 00:36:44,170 Robert Armstrong pulls a gun out and shoots Melody. 464 00:36:46,639 --> 00:36:49,809 Richard Armstrong said that they put her body 465 00:36:51,378 --> 00:36:56,182 into the fire pit as well, and then they proceeded to burn 466 00:36:56,282 --> 00:37:02,355 all of Shawn's and Melody's possessions in that fire pit. 467 00:37:06,893 --> 00:37:11,531 We found in the pit itself, all sorts of artifacts, 468 00:37:11,631 --> 00:37:14,701 but we found a bracelet, 469 00:37:16,603 --> 00:37:19,606 uh, that had some sort of a Hindi script on it. 470 00:37:20,874 --> 00:37:23,176 It was badly charred and bent by the heat. 471 00:37:24,511 --> 00:37:27,547 And as it turns out, Melody's mother 472 00:37:28,915 --> 00:37:30,383 has the mate to that bracelet. 473 00:37:30,483 --> 00:37:32,552 They bought them together, apparently, 474 00:37:32,652 --> 00:37:34,487 at some carnival. 475 00:37:36,056 --> 00:37:40,694 The bracelet was key, as it was the most profound piece of 476 00:37:40,794 --> 00:37:45,665 physical evidence supporting an identification of Melody. 477 00:38:23,970 --> 00:38:25,472 That was the worst thing to hear. 478 00:38:25,572 --> 00:38:28,942 She didn't get a chance to hold her baby. 479 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,983 And that her and Shawn didn't get a chance to be 480 00:38:37,083 --> 00:38:38,852 the good parents I know they would have been. 481 00:38:40,553 --> 00:38:43,256 Please excuse me again. I'm so sorry. 482 00:38:45,191 --> 00:38:47,527 Really tried not to let the tears go. 483 00:38:50,163 --> 00:38:52,932 And it doesn't matter how long it's been. 484 00:38:53,033 --> 00:38:54,934 It doesn't get any easier. 485 00:38:56,870 --> 00:38:59,372 I don't think there's any amount of time that I'll be 486 00:38:59,472 --> 00:39:02,042 able to not be upset when I talk about this. 487 00:39:03,443 --> 00:39:05,412 Because she didn't-- 488 00:39:05,512 --> 00:39:07,881 No one deserves what happened to her. 489 00:39:07,981 --> 00:39:08,982 No one does. 490 00:39:13,253 --> 00:39:16,756 Robert and Dale were arrested near their home in Windsor, 491 00:39:16,856 --> 00:39:18,658 Ontario in December. 492 00:39:30,136 --> 00:39:34,307 Robert received a life sentence for the first degree murder of 493 00:39:34,407 --> 00:39:39,913 Melody Lopez and second degree murder for the shooting death 494 00:39:40,013 --> 00:39:40,980 of Shawn Barrett. 495 00:39:43,783 --> 00:39:47,387 Dale McCrae, the cousin of the Armstrongs, received six 496 00:39:47,487 --> 00:39:49,189 years for accessory after the fact. 497 00:39:50,957 --> 00:39:55,528 His sentence was reversed on appeal, his defense being that 498 00:39:55,628 --> 00:39:57,097 if he didn't listen, he was next. 499 00:40:02,235 --> 00:40:04,204 If it wasn't for David Lopez 500 00:40:05,338 --> 00:40:08,408 and what he did, Shawn and Melody 501 00:40:08,508 --> 00:40:10,176 would still be missing. 502 00:40:11,444 --> 00:40:14,681 The Armstrongs would still be living their lives, 503 00:40:16,116 --> 00:40:19,452 and no one would know what happened. 504 00:40:21,554 --> 00:40:23,056 That man would never give up. 505 00:40:25,225 --> 00:40:26,926 He'd be looking for her today. 506 00:40:28,094 --> 00:40:31,231 He was going to find his daughter, 507 00:40:34,067 --> 00:40:35,035 no question. 508 00:40:39,639 --> 00:40:42,442 And I don't think David and Robin ever got over it. 509 00:40:44,944 --> 00:40:46,780 Robin passed away 510 00:40:50,383 --> 00:40:52,352 in 2018. 511 00:40:54,087 --> 00:40:58,458 David was ill, and passed away in 2020. 512 00:41:04,064 --> 00:41:06,733 But maybe they are with Melody now. 513 00:41:18,545 --> 00:41:20,213 It was a requirement for Cindy to live in 514 00:41:20,313 --> 00:41:21,548 the middle of nowhere. 515 00:41:22,749 --> 00:41:24,451 Cindy liked to be off in a cabin. 516 00:41:25,952 --> 00:41:27,220 You might not hear somebody scream. 517 00:41:31,491 --> 00:41:34,427 Is anybody going to find me? 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