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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,006 --> 00:00:09,042 Babcock State Park is almost all woods. 2 00:00:12,045 --> 00:00:14,581 It was really kind of a spooky place. 3 00:00:21,087 --> 00:00:24,858 When we arrived at Cabin 13, it appeared that there was 4 00:00:24,958 --> 00:00:28,094 a real serious struggle going on there. 5 00:00:29,696 --> 00:00:31,097 Somebody killed her. 6 00:00:31,197 --> 00:00:34,267 I just could not fathom that someone had actually 7 00:00:34,367 --> 00:00:35,402 killed her. 8 00:00:36,436 --> 00:00:40,073 To look back and see all these clues that I missed, 9 00:00:40,173 --> 00:00:41,508 that I just didn't see. 10 00:00:43,343 --> 00:00:48,048 There was a male subject in the photos that appeared to be 11 00:00:48,148 --> 00:00:50,350 in various stages of undress. 12 00:00:51,484 --> 00:00:53,219 His story didn't add up. 13 00:01:07,133 --> 00:01:09,769 That night, wasn't a lot of traffic out, 14 00:01:11,237 --> 00:01:16,142 nothing going on, so I decided to go have dinner. 15 00:01:18,078 --> 00:01:20,246 Soon as I walked in, I got the radio call. 16 00:01:21,314 --> 00:01:24,751 There was a individual that called in 17 00:01:24,851 --> 00:01:27,020 from Babcock State Park. 18 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,057 He said several individuals had broken into his cabin 19 00:01:31,157 --> 00:01:33,793 and attacked him and his wife. 20 00:01:34,761 --> 00:01:35,962 So I was on my way. 21 00:01:43,470 --> 00:01:46,473 When I arrived on scene, there was the headquarters 22 00:01:46,573 --> 00:01:49,609 building, and that's where the call came from. 23 00:01:50,610 --> 00:01:54,414 He was there at the telephone, and the only thing he had on 24 00:01:54,514 --> 00:01:57,117 was a pair of brief white underwear. 25 00:01:58,151 --> 00:02:00,954 His legs were scratched. 26 00:02:01,054 --> 00:02:04,791 I called for help, please don't hurt me, please! 27 00:02:04,891 --> 00:02:07,560 As I approached him, he was very hysterical. 28 00:02:07,660 --> 00:02:08,995 I need help! 29 00:02:09,095 --> 00:02:10,230 I said, "Calm down. 30 00:02:10,330 --> 00:02:11,531 "I'm a police officer. 31 00:02:11,631 --> 00:02:14,668 I'm here to help you, not hurt you." 32 00:02:14,768 --> 00:02:16,503 I asked him if he knew who he was. 33 00:02:16,603 --> 00:02:18,872 He told me he was Mr. Flippo. 34 00:02:20,140 --> 00:02:22,542 He advised me at that time that his wife was still 35 00:02:22,642 --> 00:02:24,244 at the cabin. 36 00:02:24,344 --> 00:02:26,312 I asked him, "Which cabin were you at?" 37 00:02:26,413 --> 00:02:28,148 He said, "Cabin number 13." 38 00:02:30,850 --> 00:02:33,653 So I told him to go with me. I placed him in my cruiser. 39 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,695 I asked him what had happened. 40 00:02:41,795 --> 00:02:45,198 He had told me that several people had been there. 41 00:02:45,298 --> 00:02:47,100 They had attacked him and his wife. 42 00:02:49,169 --> 00:02:51,371 The distance between the headquarters building 43 00:02:51,471 --> 00:02:53,807 and Cabin 13 is probably about 44 00:02:53,907 --> 00:02:56,810 7/10 of a mile down a one-lane road. 45 00:02:59,512 --> 00:03:03,883 When we arrived at Cabin 13, there was a Camaro sitting on 46 00:03:03,983 --> 00:03:06,252 the left-hand side of the road across from the cabin. 47 00:03:07,754 --> 00:03:10,423 It had looked like a white T-shirt or something hanging 48 00:03:10,523 --> 00:03:13,226 or something hanging off the side-view mirror. 49 00:03:13,326 --> 00:03:15,261 I said, "Did you arrive in this car?" 50 00:03:16,563 --> 00:03:19,733 He said, "No, I don't know who owns that car." 51 00:03:19,833 --> 00:03:22,635 I said, "Do you remember how you got here?" 52 00:03:22,736 --> 00:03:26,406 He gave me very good details of his green Cadillac. 53 00:03:29,142 --> 00:03:32,178 There was no green Cadillac anywhere around. 54 00:03:39,586 --> 00:03:43,390 I told him to remain seated in the vehicle, and I was going to 55 00:03:43,490 --> 00:03:44,457 check the cabin. 56 00:03:54,234 --> 00:03:57,704 It had been raining that night, so it was kind of slippery. 57 00:04:09,082 --> 00:04:11,885 I didn't know what I was walking in on. 58 00:04:14,087 --> 00:04:16,222 I thought there were several people inside the cabin. 59 00:04:16,322 --> 00:04:18,058 I thought there was going to be a fight. 60 00:04:18,758 --> 00:04:19,826 Hello? 61 00:04:20,493 --> 00:04:22,929 I yelled in, "Fayette County sheriff's office, 62 00:04:23,029 --> 00:04:24,297 is anyone in there?" 63 00:04:25,532 --> 00:04:26,900 There's no response. 64 00:04:42,315 --> 00:04:44,384 I looked over at the bed. 65 00:04:44,484 --> 00:04:46,986 There was a large bloodstain on the bed. 66 00:04:51,624 --> 00:04:55,628 And I seen a lady laying between the bed and the wall. 67 00:04:59,332 --> 00:05:00,467 A lot of blood. 68 00:05:02,402 --> 00:05:07,007 That point, I walked back out, went back to my cruiser, got on 69 00:05:07,107 --> 00:05:09,576 the radio, called for other assistance. 70 00:05:09,676 --> 00:05:10,977 And an ambulance, 71 00:05:17,384 --> 00:05:19,719 I'm trying to keep Mr. Flippo calm until 72 00:05:19,819 --> 00:05:22,122 I can get medical attention for him. 73 00:05:22,222 --> 00:05:25,959 Once the ambulance got there, one attendant took care 74 00:05:26,059 --> 00:05:27,127 of Mr. Flippo. 75 00:05:27,227 --> 00:05:30,430 And me and the other ambulance attendant went over 76 00:05:30,530 --> 00:05:31,798 and checked his wife. 77 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:37,404 Michael Flippo's wife, Cheryl Flippo, was deceased. 78 00:05:42,342 --> 00:05:44,744 You never think anything like this will happen. 79 00:05:44,844 --> 00:05:48,314 She was a beautiful person, and she brought joy 80 00:05:49,883 --> 00:05:51,785 to many people and to us. 81 00:05:58,825 --> 00:06:02,328 We grew up in southern West Virginia. 82 00:06:04,330 --> 00:06:06,232 There was seven of us children. 83 00:06:07,267 --> 00:06:09,436 We lived in a little coal mining community 84 00:06:09,536 --> 00:06:11,738 that had like, 22 houses. 85 00:06:11,838 --> 00:06:14,441 We went to church about every Sunday. 86 00:06:16,042 --> 00:06:18,778 Cheryl, as far back as I can remember, she always was very 87 00:06:18,878 --> 00:06:19,913 devoutly religious. 88 00:06:21,314 --> 00:06:25,218 When we reached high school, thinking about your future 89 00:06:25,318 --> 00:06:28,621 and what you want to be, she prayed for the Lord's 90 00:06:28,722 --> 00:06:32,425 direction and she felt the Lord told her she should be 91 00:06:32,525 --> 00:06:33,660 a minister's wife. 92 00:06:35,028 --> 00:06:39,899 Michael was in college studying to go into the ministry. 93 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,037 So when Cheryl and Mike were introduced, Cheryl was very 94 00:06:44,137 --> 00:06:46,740 interested because she felt the Lord works in 95 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:47,874 wonderful ways. 96 00:06:49,009 --> 00:06:51,911 When Cheryl and Mike got married, Cheryl was 19, 97 00:06:52,012 --> 00:06:54,280 and Michael was a few years older. 98 00:06:54,381 --> 00:06:57,283 She glowed. She was so happy. 99 00:07:02,489 --> 00:07:05,325 Cheryl and Mike had been living in Nitro, West Virginia, 100 00:07:05,425 --> 00:07:07,327 for about 15 years. 101 00:07:09,562 --> 00:07:12,365 The kings of the army, they flee... 102 00:07:12,465 --> 00:07:17,804 Michael Flippo was a pastor at a Church of God in Nitro. 103 00:07:17,904 --> 00:07:21,174 He was a typical Church of God minister. 104 00:07:21,274 --> 00:07:25,478 He spoke in tongues. He did his altar calls. 105 00:07:31,851 --> 00:07:34,587 Cheryl absolutely took her role as a pastor's wife 106 00:07:34,688 --> 00:07:37,357 extremely seriously. 107 00:07:37,457 --> 00:07:42,095 She felt that they were like a couple in their ministry, 108 00:07:42,195 --> 00:07:45,165 as well as a couple in their marriage. 109 00:07:45,265 --> 00:07:49,302 She was constantly doing things for the church, for people 110 00:07:49,402 --> 00:07:50,403 in the church. 111 00:07:51,838 --> 00:07:54,007 She had lots of roles in the church. 112 00:07:54,107 --> 00:07:57,210 She was part of the women's group. 113 00:07:57,310 --> 00:08:00,580 She was youth leader, Sunday school teacher. 114 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:05,385 I mean, she did all different kinds of roles that Michael 115 00:08:05,485 --> 00:08:09,222 needed her to fill, and Cheryl loved those things. 116 00:08:13,059 --> 00:08:18,398 They was always busy going to church, going to hospitals, 117 00:08:18,498 --> 00:08:20,700 and going to people's houses. 118 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,004 Michael said that they were just riding around. 119 00:08:24,104 --> 00:08:27,807 And on the spur of the moment, they decided that they would 120 00:08:27,907 --> 00:08:32,445 like to spend the night at Babcock, where they could have 121 00:08:32,545 --> 00:08:34,481 a romantic evening. 122 00:08:39,552 --> 00:08:43,923 Michael Flippo rented Cabin 13 in Babcock State Park. 123 00:08:46,292 --> 00:08:50,797 Babcock State Park is almost all woods. 124 00:08:50,897 --> 00:08:54,267 I think many people would go to Babcock for seclusion. 125 00:08:58,271 --> 00:09:04,411 They have hiking trails and cabins that are built along 126 00:09:04,511 --> 00:09:06,379 the creek that runs through there. 127 00:09:08,448 --> 00:09:09,849 It's very quiet. 128 00:09:09,949 --> 00:09:12,652 Normally, not a whole lot goes on at nighttime. 129 00:09:18,591 --> 00:09:23,029 When I first got there, I met up with Sergeant Bryant, 130 00:09:23,129 --> 00:09:28,735 and he gave me a brief rundown of meeting Flippo. 131 00:09:28,835 --> 00:09:32,038 The police had to tell him that his wife was dead. 132 00:09:32,138 --> 00:09:35,709 He was sad and grieving, but they still had to ask him 133 00:09:35,809 --> 00:09:39,746 questions as they were moving forward with the investigation. 134 00:09:39,846 --> 00:09:43,917 Michael Flippo was confused, incoherent at times. 135 00:09:45,618 --> 00:09:48,855 The statement that he gave was they had a pleasant evening 136 00:09:48,955 --> 00:09:51,825 eating ice cream and eating snacks. 137 00:09:53,059 --> 00:09:55,762 Then they retired for the evening. 138 00:09:55,862 --> 00:10:01,901 He stated that this intruder had broke into the cabin 139 00:10:02,002 --> 00:10:04,471 while he and Cheryl were sleeping 140 00:10:05,605 --> 00:10:07,107 and attacked them both. 141 00:10:09,075 --> 00:10:11,311 In her final moments of life, 142 00:10:11,411 --> 00:10:14,848 how much fear she must have suffered at that point. 143 00:10:22,622 --> 00:10:26,026 Michael Flippo told us this intruder just hit him in 144 00:10:26,126 --> 00:10:27,093 the middle of the night. 145 00:10:28,962 --> 00:10:32,499 And while he was knocked down on the floor, 146 00:10:32,599 --> 00:10:35,535 the intruder got on his legs 147 00:10:35,635 --> 00:10:40,106 to hold him down, facing him, and took a knife, 148 00:10:41,675 --> 00:10:42,709 cutting his legs. 149 00:10:54,688 --> 00:10:57,190 He was unconscious for a period of time. 150 00:10:58,491 --> 00:11:01,594 Then when he came to, he went over, 151 00:11:01,695 --> 00:11:02,762 he checked his wife. 152 00:11:04,497 --> 00:11:08,868 He says he put his head down on his wife's chest and he could 153 00:11:08,968 --> 00:11:09,969 hear her heartbeat. 154 00:11:13,540 --> 00:11:16,276 He had told me he couldn't find a cell phone. 155 00:11:16,376 --> 00:11:19,846 So he ran out the door and he ran to use 156 00:11:19,946 --> 00:11:22,449 the pay phone at headquarters. 157 00:11:22,549 --> 00:11:25,852 It was obvious what had happened to her. 158 00:11:25,952 --> 00:11:28,922 What wasn't obvious was who did it. 159 00:11:29,022 --> 00:11:32,425 And that is the thing that we have to find out. 160 00:11:37,997 --> 00:11:42,235 I left Garland with the house, let him process it. 161 00:11:42,335 --> 00:11:45,372 Early morning hours, next morning, 162 00:11:45,472 --> 00:11:47,040 the area was searched. 163 00:11:47,140 --> 00:11:49,576 Babcock State Park is huge. 164 00:11:49,676 --> 00:11:52,178 Most of the park is wooded. 165 00:11:52,278 --> 00:11:56,182 The police start looking for that someone to check to see if 166 00:11:56,282 --> 00:11:58,118 he was out there. 167 00:11:58,218 --> 00:12:01,454 I placed a officer up at the mouth of the road, so if 168 00:12:01,554 --> 00:12:03,957 anybody left the area, we'd know about it. 169 00:12:05,392 --> 00:12:07,093 Every camp was checked. 170 00:12:07,193 --> 00:12:10,730 We went to the cabin, talked to the individual that was there, 171 00:12:10,830 --> 00:12:14,200 asked them if they heard anything, told them to stay 172 00:12:14,300 --> 00:12:17,671 inside the cabin until somebody says it's OK to come out. 173 00:12:19,606 --> 00:12:24,210 No one who was near Cabin 13 heard or saw anything. 174 00:12:28,214 --> 00:12:30,450 We was trying to collect evidence as quickly 175 00:12:30,550 --> 00:12:31,551 as possible. 176 00:12:33,086 --> 00:12:36,489 I obtained the license plate and had a registration check 177 00:12:36,589 --> 00:12:38,625 for the Camaro. 178 00:12:38,725 --> 00:12:41,294 Now we wanted to start processing the crime scene 179 00:12:41,394 --> 00:12:42,996 before we did anything. 180 00:12:45,799 --> 00:12:50,337 There was a table with various items on it. 181 00:12:50,437 --> 00:12:54,174 Cheryl's purse was there. A briefcase was there. 182 00:12:56,710 --> 00:13:00,914 There was a bloody fingerprint that was discovered in 183 00:13:01,014 --> 00:13:03,750 the bathroom window on the inside roll of 184 00:13:03,850 --> 00:13:05,852 the duct tape. 185 00:13:05,952 --> 00:13:09,856 It appeared that there was a real serious struggle 186 00:13:09,956 --> 00:13:12,125 going on there. 187 00:13:12,225 --> 00:13:15,095 You could see the blood splatter on the wall. 188 00:13:15,195 --> 00:13:17,530 Various items turned over. 189 00:13:17,630 --> 00:13:21,935 The bedding had been pulled down to the foot of the bed. 190 00:13:22,035 --> 00:13:25,839 As Garland Burke processed the whole scene, he did find 191 00:13:25,939 --> 00:13:28,541 a piece of wood that he believed was 192 00:13:28,641 --> 00:13:29,642 the murder weapon. 193 00:13:32,579 --> 00:13:35,081 Cheryl Flippo had taken a severe beating. 194 00:13:36,516 --> 00:13:39,719 To think that someone could mutilate a human body 195 00:13:39,819 --> 00:13:40,787 like that. 196 00:13:43,056 --> 00:13:44,024 It's hard to forget. 197 00:13:58,038 --> 00:14:01,141 I drove up to my mom's because my kids were staying there. 198 00:14:02,509 --> 00:14:07,514 And when I opened the door, I heard Pamela screaming. 199 00:14:07,614 --> 00:14:11,217 Cheryl's son had called and said that Cheryl was dead, 200 00:14:11,317 --> 00:14:12,419 that she had been murdered. 201 00:14:14,020 --> 00:14:15,021 And I was like... 202 00:14:16,823 --> 00:14:18,091 ...shocked. 203 00:14:19,192 --> 00:14:20,360 Cheryl's dead, 204 00:14:21,928 --> 00:14:23,630 and Michael is in the hospital. 205 00:14:28,001 --> 00:14:32,038 I just remember saying, "Somebody killed her." 206 00:14:32,138 --> 00:14:34,341 "Somebody killed her." 207 00:14:34,441 --> 00:14:36,409 Really, somebody killed her. 208 00:14:36,509 --> 00:14:38,244 I just could not, 209 00:14:39,746 --> 00:14:42,916 could not fathom it, that someone had actually, 210 00:14:44,384 --> 00:14:45,785 actually killed her. 211 00:14:47,821 --> 00:14:49,923 My immediate reaction was to think that this had to be 212 00:14:50,023 --> 00:14:52,859 a mistake, that, I mean, who would do that to Cheryl? 213 00:14:54,561 --> 00:14:57,364 I would have thought she would have been the last person that 214 00:14:57,464 --> 00:14:59,666 anyone would want to hurt, period. 215 00:15:10,944 --> 00:15:13,947 Flippo was being treated at the hospital. 216 00:15:15,315 --> 00:15:19,853 There was a small wound to his forehead and he got struck 217 00:15:19,953 --> 00:15:23,690 in the back of the head and some cuts on his leg, 218 00:15:25,125 --> 00:15:26,393 very, very minor, 219 00:15:28,061 --> 00:15:31,097 so he got released from the hospital. 220 00:15:31,197 --> 00:15:33,733 He was transported to the Sheriff's Department, 221 00:15:35,502 --> 00:15:38,204 where they performed a more in-depth interview. 222 00:15:41,041 --> 00:15:44,778 When he was questioned about who could do this to you, 223 00:15:44,878 --> 00:15:47,881 Michael Flippo appeared scared. 224 00:15:47,981 --> 00:15:52,686 He said someone was communicating threats to him. 225 00:15:52,786 --> 00:15:56,089 He said, "Somebody's stalking me." 226 00:15:56,189 --> 00:15:58,591 The stalker was in and out of their lives. 227 00:15:58,692 --> 00:16:00,593 And now he was back. 228 00:16:09,269 --> 00:16:14,040 Many years before Cheryl's murder, Michael Flippo had made 229 00:16:14,140 --> 00:16:18,712 several reports concerning this alleged stalker. 230 00:16:20,947 --> 00:16:25,285 Cheryl called to tell us that they thought somebody was 231 00:16:25,385 --> 00:16:26,419 following Michael, 232 00:16:28,054 --> 00:16:29,289 and had threatened him. 233 00:16:31,157 --> 00:16:34,394 We all knew that there was somebody doing some strange 234 00:16:34,494 --> 00:16:36,062 things around their house. 235 00:16:39,199 --> 00:16:43,136 The stalker was even entering his house... 236 00:16:45,438 --> 00:16:49,242 and leaving notes taped in various locations. 237 00:16:51,678 --> 00:16:55,415 The notes were made from cutting letters out of 238 00:16:55,515 --> 00:16:58,284 magazines and gluing them on paper. 239 00:17:01,654 --> 00:17:02,789 Cheryl would come home 240 00:17:04,057 --> 00:17:05,291 and find a note someplace. 241 00:17:07,193 --> 00:17:09,462 And it would say, you know, "I'm watching you, 242 00:17:09,562 --> 00:17:12,032 I'm after you, I'm going to get you," and stuff like that. 243 00:17:14,234 --> 00:17:18,004 The notes were very brief, but they indicated that someone 244 00:17:18,104 --> 00:17:19,606 was trying to hurt them. 245 00:17:22,776 --> 00:17:26,312 The idea that the stalker could come into their home 246 00:17:26,413 --> 00:17:31,051 and do that and disappear, that was very scary. 247 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:38,591 I do remember telling Cheryl, you guys should not be alone. 248 00:17:38,692 --> 00:17:41,161 It seems like when you're alone, that's when 249 00:17:41,261 --> 00:17:42,796 you're more at risk. 250 00:17:45,532 --> 00:17:49,369 Cheryl did at one point tell her friend, "I believe 251 00:17:49,469 --> 00:17:50,970 somebody's trying to kill me." 252 00:17:55,942 --> 00:17:58,878 We also learned about an incident 253 00:17:58,978 --> 00:18:00,914 at the church in Nitro. 254 00:18:03,583 --> 00:18:05,852 Michael had been in the church. 255 00:18:07,387 --> 00:18:12,025 And right after he left, the church caught fire. 256 00:18:15,762 --> 00:18:18,798 The thought was the stalker was in there, and the stalker was 257 00:18:18,898 --> 00:18:20,000 the one that set the fire. 258 00:18:23,269 --> 00:18:24,804 They were very scared. 259 00:18:26,206 --> 00:18:28,241 Cheryl didn't feel safe. 260 00:18:30,710 --> 00:18:35,181 The FBI got involved, and the house was staked out. 261 00:18:35,281 --> 00:18:39,486 The Nitro police took this very seriously, and I know that 262 00:18:39,586 --> 00:18:43,289 they were at that home and the church on several occasions. 263 00:18:50,897 --> 00:18:54,267 Michael began to tell his church family, 264 00:18:54,367 --> 00:18:57,170 Cheryl, and the Nitro police that he was once again 265 00:18:57,270 --> 00:18:58,571 being stalked. 266 00:18:58,672 --> 00:19:02,342 He reported to the police that among the many things that 267 00:19:02,442 --> 00:19:04,978 would indicate the stalker was there, was this note that said, 268 00:19:05,078 --> 00:19:08,682 "April showers bring May flowers to your grave." 269 00:19:11,451 --> 00:19:15,455 Most of the congregation had a plan to protect them, 270 00:19:15,555 --> 00:19:18,458 men from the church would come in and stay with Michael 271 00:19:18,558 --> 00:19:21,094 and Cheryl to make sure that nothing happened. 272 00:19:21,194 --> 00:19:25,298 Michael said the stalker left a message on the answering 273 00:19:25,398 --> 00:19:29,302 machine saying, "I tried to kill you eight years ago and failed, 274 00:19:29,402 --> 00:19:31,771 but I won't this time." 275 00:19:31,871 --> 00:19:34,174 Was he the one that went into that cabin 276 00:19:34,274 --> 00:19:36,309 to commit this heinous crime? 277 00:19:49,923 --> 00:19:53,293 We had been at the cabin all day. 278 00:19:53,393 --> 00:19:56,162 It took so long to process 279 00:19:57,230 --> 00:19:58,231 the crime scene, 280 00:19:59,532 --> 00:20:02,369 We want to preserve and to collect evidence 281 00:20:02,469 --> 00:20:04,137 slowly and meticulously. 282 00:20:05,672 --> 00:20:08,742 There was a briefcase laying on the table. 283 00:20:11,711 --> 00:20:16,282 There was some papers in there that had Michael Flippo's name 284 00:20:16,383 --> 00:20:17,751 and address on there. 285 00:20:19,252 --> 00:20:22,922 There was an envelope that appeared to have photos in it. 286 00:20:23,923 --> 00:20:28,561 There was a male subject in the photos that appeared to be 287 00:20:28,661 --> 00:20:30,897 in various stages of undress. 288 00:20:32,165 --> 00:20:36,169 The man was standing by a car, taking off his pants. 289 00:20:36,269 --> 00:20:39,472 The police have no idea who this man is in those 290 00:20:39,572 --> 00:20:42,575 pictures, and no idea of his relationship 291 00:20:42,676 --> 00:20:43,643 to the Flippos. 292 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:51,551 We went to Nitro to talk to the members of the church. 293 00:20:51,651 --> 00:20:56,856 The members of the congregation were very leery about talking 294 00:20:56,956 --> 00:20:57,991 to law enforcement. 295 00:21:00,460 --> 00:21:04,297 They loved their pastor. They loved their pastor's wife. 296 00:21:04,397 --> 00:21:07,233 The people of the church felt loyal to the Flippos. 297 00:21:14,007 --> 00:21:18,278 We actually rented a motel to interview 298 00:21:18,378 --> 00:21:21,848 the ones that would cooperate, but would only come 299 00:21:21,948 --> 00:21:25,819 in the early morning hours of darkness 300 00:21:25,919 --> 00:21:28,421 so that they could keep from being seen. 301 00:21:34,227 --> 00:21:37,364 When we interviewed some of the congregants, 302 00:21:37,464 --> 00:21:40,767 we determined the person in the photograph was 303 00:21:40,867 --> 00:21:43,536 an individual by the name of Joel. 304 00:21:45,805 --> 00:21:49,542 Joel was a friend of Michael Flippo's. 305 00:21:50,944 --> 00:21:54,381 He was a young adult. I believe he was 25 years old. 306 00:21:56,616 --> 00:21:58,451 I knew a little about Joel. 307 00:22:00,553 --> 00:22:03,623 Michael was trying to counsel him 308 00:22:03,723 --> 00:22:05,692 and provide spiritual guidance. 309 00:22:07,861 --> 00:22:10,764 Michael started hanging out with Joel quite a bit. 310 00:22:12,966 --> 00:22:16,403 He had been trying to work out some kind of land deal with 311 00:22:16,503 --> 00:22:18,638 Joel, and they were going to go into some kind of 312 00:22:18,738 --> 00:22:22,842 business together. Cheryl was very anxious. 313 00:22:22,942 --> 00:22:24,177 She just seemed stressed. 314 00:22:26,212 --> 00:22:29,049 She had her reservations about it. 315 00:22:30,417 --> 00:22:33,353 I don't think she ever really trusted Joel. 316 00:22:36,423 --> 00:22:40,894 One particular couple informed us about the close relationship 317 00:22:40,994 --> 00:22:44,631 that Joel and Michael Flippo had developed. 318 00:22:44,731 --> 00:22:48,501 They said that strange things were happening in church 319 00:22:50,704 --> 00:22:54,441 and that Joel had even started occupying the seat that 320 00:22:54,541 --> 00:22:59,079 Cheryl Flippo normally occupied in church. 321 00:22:59,179 --> 00:23:00,880 That made her uncomfortable. 322 00:23:02,215 --> 00:23:03,817 She didn't understand that. 323 00:23:12,425 --> 00:23:14,327 Michael was gone a lot. 324 00:23:16,029 --> 00:23:19,733 And she seemed extra nervous about why he was gone. 325 00:23:19,833 --> 00:23:22,769 We learned through the investigation that Michael 326 00:23:22,869 --> 00:23:26,606 Flippo and Joel had went to a ski resort. 327 00:23:28,475 --> 00:23:30,477 They were together for the weekend 328 00:23:33,146 --> 00:23:36,182 and spent the night together in one room. 329 00:23:36,282 --> 00:23:40,620 I'm sure a lot of Michael's behavior disturbed her. 330 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,556 And I'm sure her gut was telling her 331 00:23:43,656 --> 00:23:44,858 things weren't right. 332 00:23:48,128 --> 00:23:52,465 When the stalker thing got really bad, she also told me 333 00:23:52,565 --> 00:23:55,035 that Joel was staying in their house. 334 00:23:56,936 --> 00:23:59,939 I said, "Cheryl, why would Joel be staying in your house? 335 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,410 I know you have some concerns about him." 336 00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:06,346 And she said, "Michael brought him into the house because 337 00:24:06,446 --> 00:24:09,149 he was an expert with a gun." 338 00:24:09,249 --> 00:24:12,318 So that would offer them some protection if 339 00:24:12,419 --> 00:24:14,254 somebody tried to harm them. 340 00:24:19,893 --> 00:24:23,630 They found Michael Flippo's diaries on the computer at 341 00:24:23,730 --> 00:24:25,432 Flippo's church. 342 00:24:25,532 --> 00:24:28,968 Several years earlier, a member of the congregation 343 00:24:29,069 --> 00:24:32,105 had installed the computer at the church. 344 00:24:32,205 --> 00:24:37,077 And Flippo asked him to include a journal program so 345 00:24:37,177 --> 00:24:39,612 the congregant knew the diary existed. 346 00:24:39,713 --> 00:24:41,214 And he went to find it. 347 00:24:44,918 --> 00:24:48,154 Flippo talks about men and his frustrations 348 00:24:48,254 --> 00:24:50,390 about his sexuality. 349 00:24:52,926 --> 00:24:55,195 In his diary, he says, "I love Joel." 350 00:24:59,299 --> 00:25:01,801 He also says, "I'm not a homosexual, 351 00:25:02,902 --> 00:25:05,038 "but I feel like I would like to have 352 00:25:05,138 --> 00:25:07,140 a man put his arms around me." 353 00:25:08,675 --> 00:25:11,111 And for us, that was... 354 00:25:12,979 --> 00:25:13,980 ...pretty shocking. 355 00:25:15,749 --> 00:25:19,052 We were like, "What?" Just mind-blown, "What?" 356 00:25:20,553 --> 00:25:22,288 We thought we knew Michael. 357 00:25:23,790 --> 00:25:26,192 The member of the church was pretty disturbed 358 00:25:26,292 --> 00:25:27,260 when he read it. 359 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:30,497 And he gave it to the investigators. 360 00:25:30,597 --> 00:25:34,868 It kind of seems like he was living a double life. 361 00:25:34,968 --> 00:25:38,304 So we wanted to get as much information about 362 00:25:38,405 --> 00:25:40,006 the marriage as possible. 363 00:25:41,441 --> 00:25:44,277 Inside Cheryl's Bible, which was located inside 364 00:25:44,377 --> 00:25:46,946 the cabin, was a letter that had been written to 365 00:25:47,047 --> 00:25:48,114 Michael Flippo. 366 00:25:49,783 --> 00:25:52,452 In Cheryl's letters, she was clearly 367 00:25:52,552 --> 00:25:53,887 expressing frustration. 368 00:25:53,987 --> 00:25:56,990 She said something like, "I'm so tired of going to bed punished." 369 00:25:58,892 --> 00:26:02,028 She said, "I do love you, but I hate this competition 370 00:26:02,128 --> 00:26:03,196 that you've created." 371 00:26:05,098 --> 00:26:07,567 And one of the things he said in the letters too is, 372 00:26:07,667 --> 00:26:08,868 "Why can't I have a friend?" 373 00:26:09,936 --> 00:26:13,206 His idea that he would have to have this friendship in secret 374 00:26:13,306 --> 00:26:15,742 didn't sit well with him at all. 375 00:26:15,842 --> 00:26:19,379 It's clear from her letters she wanted him to put 376 00:26:19,479 --> 00:26:20,647 her above Joel. 377 00:26:20,747 --> 00:26:24,417 But she didn't feel like that's what Michael was doing. 378 00:26:27,954 --> 00:26:31,891 And then the results from the registration check made on 379 00:26:31,991 --> 00:26:34,527 the license plate for the Camaro came back 380 00:26:36,563 --> 00:26:37,664 registered to Joel. 381 00:26:49,943 --> 00:26:54,014 It was becoming pretty clear that the police had serious 382 00:26:54,114 --> 00:26:55,882 questions about the relationship between 383 00:26:55,982 --> 00:26:57,017 the two men. 384 00:26:57,117 --> 00:27:01,154 So they called Joel to come and speak to them. 385 00:27:01,254 --> 00:27:04,657 Joel denied that he had any involvement with the murder. 386 00:27:06,526 --> 00:27:11,164 He clearly stated it was his car, but he was not there. 387 00:27:13,033 --> 00:27:16,403 And he said that Flippo was threatened by a stalker 388 00:27:16,503 --> 00:27:18,171 and wanted to get away. 389 00:27:18,271 --> 00:27:22,509 So he volunteered to give his red Camaro to the couple. 390 00:27:24,077 --> 00:27:29,582 Joel did say to the police that on April 27th, just a few days 391 00:27:29,683 --> 00:27:32,652 before the murder, he and Flippo visited 392 00:27:32,752 --> 00:27:34,287 Babcock State Park 393 00:27:35,188 --> 00:27:36,923 and just drove around. 394 00:27:37,957 --> 00:27:40,293 He's the one that told Flippo, 395 00:27:41,327 --> 00:27:42,429 "Get Cabin 13." 396 00:27:44,497 --> 00:27:48,968 He had been to that park many times since he was a kid. 397 00:27:49,069 --> 00:27:50,303 He liked the park very much. 398 00:27:52,172 --> 00:27:55,408 Joel had always wanted to be baptized at this park. 399 00:27:56,976 --> 00:27:59,279 So they found a spot where they could pull over 400 00:27:59,379 --> 00:28:00,580 and do this baptism. 401 00:28:03,483 --> 00:28:08,555 Joel explained that those photos record the time after 402 00:28:08,655 --> 00:28:11,758 the baptism, changing from wet clothes into dry clothes, 403 00:28:11,858 --> 00:28:14,828 and that Flippo took the pictures to capture 404 00:28:14,928 --> 00:28:16,596 a happy moment. 405 00:28:16,696 --> 00:28:20,166 Joel said he and Michael Flippo were absolutely just friends. 406 00:28:20,266 --> 00:28:24,371 And when he was asked about the marriage, he thought that 407 00:28:24,471 --> 00:28:26,873 Flippo and his wife had a good marriage. 408 00:28:28,108 --> 00:28:31,511 The police were trying to figure out, was it Joel? 409 00:28:31,611 --> 00:28:33,046 Is he telling the truth? 410 00:28:37,550 --> 00:28:41,121 When he was questioned again, Flippo said that he had 411 00:28:41,221 --> 00:28:46,192 borrowed Joel's car to be in somewhat of a disguise so that 412 00:28:46,292 --> 00:28:48,762 the stalker couldn't follow him. 413 00:28:48,862 --> 00:28:53,233 Every time that police asked Michael Flippo who the murderer 414 00:28:53,333 --> 00:28:56,569 would have been, he continued to say 415 00:28:56,670 --> 00:28:57,771 it was the stalker. 416 00:29:01,641 --> 00:29:04,377 He could never describe the stalker. 417 00:29:05,445 --> 00:29:07,714 He can't give a physical description. 418 00:29:09,149 --> 00:29:11,651 We were beginning to be suspicious of what 419 00:29:11,751 --> 00:29:15,689 had happened, so we wanted to see the cabin. 420 00:29:20,260 --> 00:29:22,529 It was really kind of a spooky place, 421 00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:29,102 just eerie and so isolated. 422 00:29:30,837 --> 00:29:31,805 I felt Cheryl. 423 00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:35,075 I felt Cheryl's presence. 424 00:29:35,175 --> 00:29:38,745 I remember sitting down at a table that was there, 425 00:29:39,979 --> 00:29:42,115 and I could feel her just wash over me. 426 00:29:43,216 --> 00:29:47,687 Just was one of the worst feelings you could ever get, 427 00:29:47,787 --> 00:29:51,057 walking in there and knowing that that's the last thing that 428 00:29:51,157 --> 00:29:53,593 she ever saw was inside of that cabin. 429 00:29:57,197 --> 00:29:58,231 It was brutal. 430 00:30:06,506 --> 00:30:10,210 Now we wanted to go back and look at the photographs in 431 00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:13,380 case we missed something with the naked eye. 432 00:30:14,881 --> 00:30:17,951 At first impression, the attack occurred in the bed. 433 00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:22,622 But when I looked at the blood pool on the floor, 434 00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:28,061 you can see where something had been dragged through the blood. 435 00:30:29,229 --> 00:30:33,867 It seemed like someone picked up a pillow, sopped it up with 436 00:30:33,967 --> 00:30:37,504 the blood on the floor, and put it on the bed. 437 00:30:37,604 --> 00:30:41,107 Someone was trying to make it look like Mrs. Flippo died in 438 00:30:41,207 --> 00:30:44,544 the bed instead of on the floor. 439 00:30:44,644 --> 00:30:48,148 When you're looking at the rocking chair turned over, 440 00:30:48,248 --> 00:30:53,086 it would give the impression that there was a struggle. 441 00:30:53,186 --> 00:30:57,357 You start looking closely, there was clothing neatly 442 00:30:57,457 --> 00:31:00,160 stacked underneath the rocking chair. 443 00:31:00,260 --> 00:31:05,665 Then I noticed that footprints were very evident at the cabin. 444 00:31:09,302 --> 00:31:12,038 It was extremely rainy that night. 445 00:31:12,138 --> 00:31:16,576 If you got off the walkway at all, you got mud on your feet. 446 00:31:16,676 --> 00:31:20,847 You could see Charlie Bryant's footprints and the footprints 447 00:31:20,947 --> 00:31:24,351 of the medic that was going in. 448 00:31:24,451 --> 00:31:28,288 So you're looking then, and you're thinking, where is 449 00:31:28,388 --> 00:31:30,990 this third person? 450 00:31:31,091 --> 00:31:34,527 In my opinion, Michael Flippo couldn't describe this stalker 451 00:31:34,627 --> 00:31:36,629 because there was no stalker involved. 452 00:31:39,966 --> 00:31:42,102 This was a staged crime scene. 453 00:31:51,378 --> 00:31:53,913 It started becoming evident at that point 454 00:31:55,081 --> 00:31:58,918 that Michael Flippo was no longer a victim, 455 00:31:59,019 --> 00:32:00,453 but he was a suspect. 456 00:32:02,422 --> 00:32:06,259 When Officer Burke looked back at the church fire several 457 00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:08,862 years earlier, he learned the fire chief 458 00:32:08,962 --> 00:32:11,131 suspected it was arson from the beginning. 459 00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:18,738 I think he learned that you can get money from insurance. 460 00:32:21,341 --> 00:32:23,376 He kept saying they needed a new church, 461 00:32:23,476 --> 00:32:26,880 they needed a new church, and that old church burnt down 462 00:32:26,980 --> 00:32:28,815 and they got a brand new church. 463 00:32:28,915 --> 00:32:32,619 I mean, it's too coincidental. Burn, burn, burn, burn, burn. 464 00:32:37,924 --> 00:32:41,995 Our investigation also revealed a background of 465 00:32:42,095 --> 00:32:43,096 embezzling money. 466 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,569 Just before the murder, there was a child 467 00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:53,306 who desperately needed a liver and pancreas transplant. 468 00:32:53,406 --> 00:32:56,543 Everybody rallied around this family. 469 00:32:56,643 --> 00:33:00,513 And ultimately, they raised almost $90,000. 470 00:33:02,015 --> 00:33:05,051 Flippo opened an account for the child with only 471 00:33:05,151 --> 00:33:09,089 his name on it, and he was dipping into that account. 472 00:33:10,290 --> 00:33:13,360 There was around $12,000 missing. 473 00:33:13,460 --> 00:33:16,429 Flippo took that money, and he was never held 474 00:33:16,529 --> 00:33:17,497 to account. 475 00:33:18,164 --> 00:33:21,835 He always liked expensive things, always liked to 476 00:33:21,935 --> 00:33:24,671 impress people. It had always been about money. 477 00:33:25,739 --> 00:33:28,208 Cheryl was determined that they would live with a budget 478 00:33:28,308 --> 00:33:30,276 and save money for their retirement, 479 00:33:31,611 --> 00:33:34,581 which was not Michael's plan. 480 00:33:34,681 --> 00:33:39,219 We discovered a life insurance policy had been taken out. 481 00:33:39,319 --> 00:33:43,023 He had made this life insurance policy, making himself 482 00:33:43,123 --> 00:33:45,425 the sole beneficiary. 483 00:33:45,525 --> 00:33:50,296 And if Cheryl would die, he would get $100,000. 484 00:33:50,397 --> 00:33:53,867 The insurance policy was taken out in the name of 485 00:33:53,967 --> 00:33:56,202 Cheryl Flippo on March 1st. 486 00:33:57,604 --> 00:34:00,340 And it went into effect April 1st. 487 00:34:02,275 --> 00:34:04,778 The pieces of the puzzle started coming together. 488 00:34:08,982 --> 00:34:10,316 His story didn't add up. 489 00:34:18,158 --> 00:34:19,159 He did this. 490 00:34:30,270 --> 00:34:32,605 We actually got a search warrant to have 491 00:34:32,706 --> 00:34:35,141 his body examined. 492 00:34:35,241 --> 00:34:39,446 So we took Michael Flippo to the medical examiner. 493 00:34:39,546 --> 00:34:44,584 He checked the wounds, and the way the striations were 494 00:34:44,684 --> 00:34:46,152 on his leg, 495 00:34:46,252 --> 00:34:48,888 they were self-inflicted in this case. 496 00:34:50,457 --> 00:34:54,060 The curve of the wound is one of the things you look at. 497 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:59,332 And from observing the wounds on his leg, we could determine 498 00:34:59,432 --> 00:35:01,568 the wounds self-inflicted. 499 00:35:02,836 --> 00:35:06,239 And then the results from the bloody thumbprint on 500 00:35:06,339 --> 00:35:09,676 the duct tape came back matched to Michael Flippo. 501 00:35:11,511 --> 00:35:14,381 By that point, investigators believed they had 502 00:35:14,481 --> 00:35:17,517 a complete picture of what led to her murder. 503 00:35:20,787 --> 00:35:24,224 On April 27th, after Joel and Michael visited 504 00:35:24,324 --> 00:35:27,861 Babcock State Park, Flippo reserved Cabin 13. 505 00:35:31,498 --> 00:35:35,568 He brought her to Cabin 13 because it was a secluded area. 506 00:35:38,038 --> 00:35:41,541 You could do about anything, and nobody'd know about it. 507 00:35:47,547 --> 00:35:51,651 What I think occurred was that Cheryl and Michael had laid 508 00:35:51,751 --> 00:35:54,821 down in her mind to go to sleep and have a restful evening. 509 00:36:05,331 --> 00:36:08,768 And Michael started striking her with a piece of firewood. 510 00:36:20,780 --> 00:36:23,283 I can't imagine what went through her head at that point. 511 00:36:24,684 --> 00:36:25,985 It's the worst kind of betrayal. 512 00:36:39,165 --> 00:36:44,137 The scene was made to look like the stalker came in and had 513 00:36:44,237 --> 00:36:48,308 a big struggle with Michael Flippo and harmed him. 514 00:36:51,511 --> 00:36:52,746 He fled the scene. 515 00:36:52,846 --> 00:36:56,916 He made his cover story that removed him from any guilt. 516 00:37:06,826 --> 00:37:09,929 The day before Cheryl Flippo's funeral, 517 00:37:10,030 --> 00:37:13,533 We went to Nitro and arrested Flippo. 518 00:37:18,605 --> 00:37:21,307 That was a very satisfying moment to me. 519 00:37:23,877 --> 00:37:26,413 Michael Flippo was charged with the first-degree murder 520 00:37:26,513 --> 00:37:27,480 of his wife. 521 00:37:56,009 --> 00:37:58,645 You fought for justice for her. 522 00:37:58,745 --> 00:38:02,215 You wouldn't have been able to live without justice for her. 523 00:38:03,216 --> 00:38:05,218 But it didn't make the pain go away. 524 00:38:07,220 --> 00:38:08,688 We never got a confession. 525 00:38:08,788 --> 00:38:12,892 We never heard anything other than the fabrication 526 00:38:12,992 --> 00:38:14,561 he told us up front. 527 00:38:15,895 --> 00:38:21,501 We did debate whether or not anybody else was involved. 528 00:38:21,601 --> 00:38:25,605 But when we sat and listened to Garland Burke tell us that 529 00:38:25,705 --> 00:38:28,541 he was at that cabin for five, six, seven days, he could not 530 00:38:28,641 --> 00:38:32,145 find a molecule or a hair sample or a blood spatter 531 00:38:32,245 --> 00:38:36,983 or anything that did not belong to those two people. 532 00:38:40,387 --> 00:38:44,524 The only piece of evidence that even connected Joel was 533 00:38:44,624 --> 00:38:46,226 the use of his car 534 00:38:46,326 --> 00:38:50,030 that Michael Flippo had driven to Babcock. 535 00:39:01,808 --> 00:39:04,811 I thought I was good in judging people. 536 00:39:06,579 --> 00:39:10,583 And to look back and see all these clues that I missed, 537 00:39:10,684 --> 00:39:12,252 that I just didn't see, 538 00:39:14,387 --> 00:39:15,555 there was no stalker. 539 00:39:20,093 --> 00:39:21,795 Michael was the stalker. 540 00:39:26,533 --> 00:39:30,170 Every time Michael would get into trouble, he would say 541 00:39:30,270 --> 00:39:32,238 the stalker was after him. 542 00:39:34,507 --> 00:39:36,876 It was like his ace in the hole, you might say. 543 00:39:40,447 --> 00:39:42,082 For a preacher, I think he was very devious. 544 00:39:43,483 --> 00:39:47,187 He betrayed all those people, not just us and her 545 00:39:47,287 --> 00:39:48,421 and his family. 546 00:39:48,521 --> 00:39:51,624 He betrayed all those people that he supposedly was 547 00:39:51,725 --> 00:39:52,792 ministering to. 548 00:39:54,594 --> 00:39:57,697 In my mind, you know, it's like she paid the price 549 00:39:57,797 --> 00:40:00,834 for his sins, and how is that right? 550 00:40:05,271 --> 00:40:08,308 Cheryl was our angel on Earth. 551 00:40:08,408 --> 00:40:10,276 She wasn't perfect, 552 00:40:11,745 --> 00:40:13,246 but she was our angel on earth. 553 00:40:14,781 --> 00:40:16,416 She was the heart of our family. 554 00:40:16,516 --> 00:40:20,720 So to lose that, for us, was 555 00:40:22,589 --> 00:40:23,590 insurmountable. 556 00:40:25,725 --> 00:40:28,895 I feel the pain as much today as I did 557 00:40:30,296 --> 00:40:31,297 in 1996. 558 00:40:38,371 --> 00:40:40,206 We had to move on. 559 00:40:41,508 --> 00:40:43,109 We did our own things. 560 00:40:45,011 --> 00:40:47,147 It was extremely hard 561 00:40:47,247 --> 00:40:48,815 to do it without her. 562 00:40:50,250 --> 00:40:51,551 It was for me. 563 00:40:57,057 --> 00:40:58,525 Life goes on 564 00:40:59,693 --> 00:41:00,927 for us. 565 00:41:01,928 --> 00:41:03,396 It will never be the same, 566 00:41:04,931 --> 00:41:07,701 but at least you have the solace of knowing that 567 00:41:07,801 --> 00:41:09,836 he'll never be able to do it to anyone else. 568 00:41:18,778 --> 00:41:21,214 We had a cabin on Stump Island. 569 00:41:21,314 --> 00:41:23,183 I'm not saying that evil things were happening 570 00:41:23,283 --> 00:41:25,919 but it was a creepy, creepy space. 571 00:41:27,287 --> 00:41:28,321 There were rumors galore. 572 00:41:28,421 --> 00:41:30,256 They were concerned that you have a serial killer 573 00:41:30,357 --> 00:41:31,558 in your community. 574 00:41:32,792 --> 00:41:34,627 That cabin holds an awful lot of secrets. 46061

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