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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,620 --> 00:00:07,482 Where my dad's cabin was, 2 00:00:09,172 --> 00:00:13,275 there are not a lot of people, you can't just call for help. 3 00:00:13,275 --> 00:00:17,206 The area is very isolated. It can be very dangerous. 4 00:00:18,724 --> 00:00:21,344 Everything was completely dark. 5 00:00:22,482 --> 00:00:26,724 And immediately, I knew it was bad. 6 00:00:29,172 --> 00:00:30,655 He came out with a gun. 7 00:00:31,586 --> 00:00:33,620 They didn't know, should I run, should I not? 8 00:00:34,793 --> 00:00:36,379 Is he gonna shoot me? 9 00:00:36,379 --> 00:00:38,586 I remember thinking, I didn't even tell my parents 10 00:00:38,586 --> 00:00:39,689 where I was going today. 11 00:00:44,172 --> 00:00:47,310 My biggest horror 12 00:00:49,103 --> 00:00:51,000 was like, who's gonna be next? 13 00:01:04,931 --> 00:01:07,620 July 28th, 2015, 14 00:01:08,689 --> 00:01:10,482 I was 19 years old. 15 00:01:10,482 --> 00:01:13,379 I was just hanging out with some buddies, Will and Keyton. 16 00:01:13,379 --> 00:01:15,379 Will was like, "Hey, let's go shootin'." 17 00:01:15,379 --> 00:01:17,275 He just got a new .22. 18 00:01:17,275 --> 00:01:21,655 And we pack up and get some rounds, get some guns, 19 00:01:21,655 --> 00:01:24,931 headed towards Caliente to Will's dad's cabin. 20 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,758 Caliente, California, it's a beautiful place, really. 21 00:01:28,758 --> 00:01:32,517 It's about 25 minutes away from Bakersfield, 22 00:01:34,517 --> 00:01:38,758 and it's about 15 miles of rugged terrain going up 23 00:01:38,758 --> 00:01:40,241 to the cabin. 24 00:01:40,896 --> 00:01:44,482 That desert area butts up against mountains where 25 00:01:44,482 --> 00:01:47,482 the trees start, so you have thick forest, and then it gets 26 00:01:47,482 --> 00:01:52,965 into very steep cliffs and very hazardous terrain. 27 00:01:54,103 --> 00:01:56,448 I'm talking about rocks. 28 00:01:56,448 --> 00:02:00,275 I'm talking about going vertical on rocks. 29 00:02:00,275 --> 00:02:02,241 You need a four-wheel drive. 30 00:02:03,103 --> 00:02:04,586 A normal SUV won't get you up there. 31 00:02:04,586 --> 00:02:08,241 It has to be some type of off-road-like vehicle. 32 00:02:08,241 --> 00:02:11,896 They drove to a point where they park, and then they take 33 00:02:11,896 --> 00:02:13,793 a quad, and they drive up the rest of the way 34 00:02:13,793 --> 00:02:15,724 on a dirt road to the cabin. 35 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,965 We're just listening to rock music, 36 00:02:18,965 --> 00:02:21,931 talking, talking mess. 37 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,689 You know, we get to the cabin. It's very isolated. 38 00:02:28,689 --> 00:02:32,724 There's trailers, RVs, a full-out shooting range. 39 00:02:34,379 --> 00:02:37,103 Just a full-on man cave, basically. 40 00:02:43,379 --> 00:02:44,482 As they park, and they're getting 41 00:02:44,482 --> 00:02:45,931 their gear and everything, 42 00:02:49,275 --> 00:02:52,137 they are confronted by 43 00:02:53,379 --> 00:02:54,482 a gentleman. 44 00:03:00,482 --> 00:03:02,482 My first thought was like, oh, that has to be, 45 00:03:02,482 --> 00:03:04,758 like, Will's family. 46 00:03:04,758 --> 00:03:06,551 So I was like, pretty cool at first. 47 00:03:06,551 --> 00:03:08,034 I was like, "Hey, what's up, dude?" 48 00:03:08,034 --> 00:03:10,517 Then I noticed he didn't say anything. 49 00:03:11,689 --> 00:03:15,758 He was wearing all green. He had a sawed-off 12 gauge. 50 00:03:15,758 --> 00:03:19,206 He had a bag that sounded like a bunch of rounds in it. 51 00:03:20,103 --> 00:03:23,068 He also had a pretty long knife sticking out of his sleeve, 52 00:03:23,068 --> 00:03:26,103 like he was ready to hunt or kill. 53 00:03:29,689 --> 00:03:32,206 He was out in the wild, and he was prepared for it. 54 00:03:36,448 --> 00:03:41,586 He approached us, and my buddy Will was like, "What the hell? 55 00:03:41,586 --> 00:03:44,137 What are you doing here? You're trespassing." 56 00:03:44,137 --> 00:03:45,586 And he's like, "There's no one that lives here. 57 00:03:45,586 --> 00:03:46,862 It's just me." 58 00:03:48,724 --> 00:03:51,206 That's when I knew this is bad. 59 00:03:54,275 --> 00:03:57,379 And from there on, that's when everything went downhill. 60 00:03:57,379 --> 00:04:00,655 He was definitely saying crazy things. 61 00:04:02,689 --> 00:04:05,103 He told us about the government dropping him 62 00:04:05,103 --> 00:04:07,275 from space in a body bag. 63 00:04:07,275 --> 00:04:10,413 Made him seem unhinged, made him just crazy. 64 00:04:12,517 --> 00:04:14,862 And I kind of started freaking out. 65 00:04:14,862 --> 00:04:16,482 I even remember thinking like, man, 66 00:04:16,482 --> 00:04:18,586 I didn't even tell my parents where I was going today. 67 00:04:18,586 --> 00:04:20,000 I just took off. 68 00:04:21,068 --> 00:04:24,551 Then he directed them into the cabin with him at gunpoint. 69 00:04:27,172 --> 00:04:29,379 They didn't know, should I run, should I not? 70 00:04:29,379 --> 00:04:30,655 Is he gonna shoot me? 71 00:04:42,172 --> 00:04:44,172 Inside the cabin, he specifically told us, 72 00:04:44,172 --> 00:04:45,965 "You sit in one corner, you sit in one corner, 73 00:04:45,965 --> 00:04:47,413 and you sit in the middle." 74 00:04:49,172 --> 00:04:51,068 We were all scared. 75 00:04:51,068 --> 00:04:53,689 Your body goes into a certain state. 76 00:04:53,689 --> 00:04:56,000 You don't feel nothing. 77 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,241 It's almost like you got to think of your next move. 78 00:05:02,068 --> 00:05:03,827 I definitely was thinking of 79 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,034 my mom, my dad, my sisters, you know, like, damn, 80 00:05:08,034 --> 00:05:11,931 like, this is it-- didn't even say, "I love you." 81 00:05:13,103 --> 00:05:14,862 That was the rough part. 82 00:05:14,862 --> 00:05:18,103 At that time, I wasn't too religious, 83 00:05:18,103 --> 00:05:19,931 but I saved a prayer. 84 00:05:21,586 --> 00:05:25,275 He had the shotgun in my face, finger on the trigger, 85 00:05:25,275 --> 00:05:26,827 and he said, "Bang, 86 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,275 bang, bang." 87 00:05:30,689 --> 00:05:33,793 He's like, "I can kill all you guys right now and get away 88 00:05:33,793 --> 00:05:36,241 with it-- nobody will know." 89 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,275 Which he was completely right. 90 00:05:41,275 --> 00:05:44,793 You know, middle of nowhere, no service, yeah, 91 00:05:44,793 --> 00:05:46,448 you can definitely get away with it. 92 00:05:52,482 --> 00:05:57,172 It's not uncommon in the rural areas for people to go out 93 00:05:57,172 --> 00:05:59,862 target shooting or hunting, 94 00:05:59,862 --> 00:06:02,379 and people are not gonna hear the gunshots. 95 00:06:02,379 --> 00:06:06,275 And if they do, they may think it's just completely normal. 96 00:06:06,275 --> 00:06:09,344 He wouldn't even have to bury them because he could have left 97 00:06:09,344 --> 00:06:12,241 them in the elements, and they would have been taken care of 98 00:06:12,241 --> 00:06:16,344 by the wild... and no trace of 'em. 99 00:06:16,344 --> 00:06:18,862 Three young men have just disappeared off the face of 100 00:06:18,862 --> 00:06:20,931 the earth, and no one knows why. 101 00:06:26,586 --> 00:06:28,551 During that time, he was back and forth. 102 00:06:28,551 --> 00:06:32,344 He's going outside, he's grabbing cans of food, 103 00:06:32,344 --> 00:06:34,275 grabbing ammo, grabbing whatever 104 00:06:34,275 --> 00:06:35,655 he thinks he needs. 105 00:06:36,724 --> 00:06:39,137 And he would leave us in the room, and we'd kind of just 106 00:06:39,137 --> 00:06:41,482 be talking between each other-- what are we gonna do? 107 00:06:41,482 --> 00:06:45,137 My buddy Will was, "We're gonna try and take him down." 108 00:06:45,137 --> 00:06:46,586 And I told him, I was like, "Stop, dude. 109 00:06:46,586 --> 00:06:47,862 "You're gonna get us killed. 110 00:06:47,862 --> 00:06:51,103 "Do you really wanna see one of our friends get shot or do 111 00:06:51,103 --> 00:06:52,344 you really wanna die here?" 112 00:06:56,586 --> 00:06:59,827 He even actually has a bag of butane tanks. 113 00:07:05,103 --> 00:07:06,655 I thought for sure we were gonna die. 114 00:07:12,448 --> 00:07:14,034 I couldn't fight my way out. 115 00:07:15,103 --> 00:07:16,724 I couldn't shoot my way out. 116 00:07:17,896 --> 00:07:21,620 I couldn't run my way out. I was stuck. 117 00:07:23,172 --> 00:07:26,034 There's nothing I could do to get out of this situation 118 00:07:26,034 --> 00:07:27,793 besides talk. 119 00:07:27,793 --> 00:07:30,965 We asked him, "Can we smoke a cigarette, you know? 120 00:07:30,965 --> 00:07:32,517 It's the least you could do it for us." 121 00:07:34,482 --> 00:07:35,586 He hands us a cigarette, 122 00:07:40,689 --> 00:07:43,896 We're just talking. He's telling us crazy things. 123 00:07:43,896 --> 00:07:48,241 He talked about him knowing the devil, that the devil 124 00:07:48,241 --> 00:07:51,344 brought him back to life, his last marriage, how it 125 00:07:51,344 --> 00:07:54,896 wasn't good, talking about how he respects us. 126 00:07:54,896 --> 00:07:57,448 He even told us one time, he said, "You guys are 127 00:07:57,448 --> 00:07:59,586 my friends. I love you guys." 128 00:07:59,586 --> 00:08:03,103 It was a roller coaster of emotions. 129 00:08:04,068 --> 00:08:06,482 "Gonna kill you guys no matter what." 130 00:08:06,482 --> 00:08:09,344 But we were talking, talking, trying to get out 131 00:08:09,344 --> 00:08:11,758 of it-- it felt like torture. 132 00:08:13,310 --> 00:08:15,586 But in those few hours, 133 00:08:15,586 --> 00:08:18,137 we kind of started to figure him out. 134 00:08:19,379 --> 00:08:22,275 He was just on foot, breaking into those cabins out 135 00:08:22,275 --> 00:08:24,241 there, taking whatever he could. 136 00:08:24,241 --> 00:08:27,034 He was kind of just living freely out there. 137 00:08:27,034 --> 00:08:30,034 I mean, there's nobody around. There's nothing out there. 138 00:08:30,034 --> 00:08:33,448 I think he was more mad that he ran into us, if anything, you know? 139 00:08:37,275 --> 00:08:39,793 We kind of calmed him down to a point 140 00:08:39,793 --> 00:08:41,482 where we came up with a deal. 141 00:08:41,482 --> 00:08:43,482 Like, hey, you take all of our stuff. 142 00:08:43,482 --> 00:08:46,000 You take our guns. You take our side-by-side. 143 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,896 You know, we'll just walk back, and you'll be free. 144 00:08:48,896 --> 00:08:53,413 They told him, "Please just go, and we won't say anything." 145 00:08:54,689 --> 00:08:56,000 He's like, "You're just messing with me. 146 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,620 You're just lying, you're just doing this to survive." 147 00:09:01,206 --> 00:09:02,103 Which we were. 148 00:09:02,103 --> 00:09:05,655 We all stuck to a certain game plan. 149 00:09:05,655 --> 00:09:08,000 We're all on the same page on manipulating him, 150 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,758 on making this deal. 151 00:09:15,206 --> 00:09:16,793 And he's like, "I respect you guys. 152 00:09:16,793 --> 00:09:18,827 That's why I'm gonna let you guys live." 153 00:09:19,724 --> 00:09:22,275 As crazy as it sounds, I shook his hand. 154 00:09:38,275 --> 00:09:41,275 The suspect took the all-terrain vehicle 155 00:09:41,275 --> 00:09:43,310 and drove away in it. 156 00:09:48,172 --> 00:09:50,310 That's when we ran out that cabin. 157 00:09:52,275 --> 00:09:55,000 It was just a rush of getting the hell out of here. 158 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,965 Didn't even look back, just ran. 159 00:09:58,172 --> 00:10:00,275 Ran straight to the riverbed. 160 00:10:00,275 --> 00:10:02,482 In that riverbed, there's a bunch of shrubs. 161 00:10:02,482 --> 00:10:06,172 There's a bunch of things that can hide us, and it would take 162 00:10:06,172 --> 00:10:08,793 us back to where we needed to be. 163 00:10:08,793 --> 00:10:13,172 There's no cellular service in those areas, so they had to 164 00:10:13,172 --> 00:10:16,034 make their way to safety before they could even make contact 165 00:10:16,034 --> 00:10:18,689 with law enforcement. We're traumatized. 166 00:10:18,689 --> 00:10:22,793 Any little thing, any wind, we're looking behind us. 167 00:10:22,793 --> 00:10:28,655 We started to realize, like, we're not making any way. 168 00:10:28,655 --> 00:10:30,758 Sun's already dropping. 169 00:10:30,758 --> 00:10:32,275 That riverbed is taking too long. 170 00:10:32,275 --> 00:10:35,000 So we got back onto the main road. 171 00:10:36,172 --> 00:10:38,241 And as we're walking down the main road... 172 00:10:44,793 --> 00:10:47,655 ...that's when we heard him coming back towards us. 173 00:10:48,482 --> 00:10:50,000 He'd changed his mind. 174 00:10:52,482 --> 00:10:54,137 He was gonna come kill us. 175 00:11:06,137 --> 00:11:08,724 We're walking down the dirt road, and... 176 00:11:10,862 --> 00:11:12,275 we hear the side-by-side. 177 00:11:15,724 --> 00:11:17,172 He was coming back to kill us. 178 00:11:17,172 --> 00:11:19,137 He did not want them going and reporting 179 00:11:19,137 --> 00:11:21,586 this particular incident. 180 00:11:21,586 --> 00:11:25,620 They were actively being hunted down by him. 181 00:11:26,379 --> 00:11:28,379 He was mobile. They're on foot. 182 00:11:30,344 --> 00:11:33,137 We all dove face first, and... 183 00:11:33,137 --> 00:11:35,655 and as we dove, we were capable 184 00:11:35,655 --> 00:11:38,517 of just rolling over and kind of hiding ourselves 185 00:11:38,517 --> 00:11:39,586 from the main road. 186 00:12:14,172 --> 00:12:17,551 We laid there for a good five minutes until we didn't hear 187 00:12:17,551 --> 00:12:18,758 that engine no more. 188 00:12:18,758 --> 00:12:21,000 And that's when we got back up and started hiking that 189 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,068 trail again. 190 00:12:23,793 --> 00:12:26,793 There's no doubt in my mind that he would have 191 00:12:26,793 --> 00:12:28,413 eliminated those young men. 192 00:12:31,379 --> 00:12:33,000 Keyton was sick. 193 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,000 I'm pretty sure he was dehydrated. 194 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,344 Dehydrated, scared, not a good mixture, 195 00:12:38,344 --> 00:12:40,379 and we had to walk miles. 196 00:12:43,172 --> 00:12:45,689 If you're not equipped in the mountains, it can not only 197 00:12:45,689 --> 00:12:46,931 be scary, it can be deadly. 198 00:12:50,344 --> 00:12:51,620 There is coyotes. 199 00:12:52,793 --> 00:12:54,310 There's mountain lions. 200 00:12:55,137 --> 00:12:57,379 There's a very high population of 201 00:12:58,379 --> 00:13:01,689 poisonous rattlesnakes-- it can be very dangerous. 202 00:13:15,068 --> 00:13:16,517 We seen some headlights. 203 00:13:19,793 --> 00:13:21,724 I thought that he was coming back to kill us. 204 00:13:25,793 --> 00:13:28,310 Our first reaction was to hide again. 205 00:13:28,310 --> 00:13:32,413 But as it got closer, we heard a voice. 206 00:13:32,413 --> 00:13:34,758 What are you guys doing? Where's the side-by-side? 207 00:13:34,758 --> 00:13:37,379 And that's when we knew it was Will's dad. 208 00:13:39,482 --> 00:13:43,000 That's when I kind of felt like a breath of fresh air. 209 00:13:44,758 --> 00:13:45,862 I'm gonna make it home. 210 00:13:45,862 --> 00:13:49,103 He could tell by our faces something happened. 211 00:13:49,103 --> 00:13:51,793 And that's when my buddy Will hysterically started saying, 212 00:13:51,793 --> 00:13:56,241 "We got held hostage, shotgun to our head, by a crazy man, 213 00:13:56,241 --> 00:13:57,586 "and he took everything. 214 00:13:57,586 --> 00:13:59,862 That was the only way we were gonna to survive." 215 00:13:59,862 --> 00:14:03,517 Will's dad takes a deep breath and was just like, "What?" 216 00:14:03,517 --> 00:14:06,103 And he's like, "Yeah, we got stuck up." 217 00:14:09,034 --> 00:14:10,931 It was a quiet ride. I didn't speak. 218 00:14:11,862 --> 00:14:13,413 I was just thinking of 219 00:14:14,482 --> 00:14:15,931 what just happened, like... 220 00:14:16,793 --> 00:14:18,068 I should be dead. 221 00:14:18,068 --> 00:14:21,724 Thank God they escaped and reported to 222 00:14:21,724 --> 00:14:22,965 law enforcement. 223 00:14:27,241 --> 00:14:29,586 In 2015, I was a senior deputy 224 00:14:29,586 --> 00:14:31,758 for the Kern County Sheriff's Department. 225 00:14:31,758 --> 00:14:34,689 I had a dual role as a detective 226 00:14:34,689 --> 00:14:38,000 and also as a SWAT team sniper. 227 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,172 We have a special operations group team that is primarily 228 00:14:42,172 --> 00:14:47,758 SWAT team members that do special missions. 229 00:14:47,758 --> 00:14:50,689 We realized how lucky these three young men were 230 00:14:51,793 --> 00:14:54,793 and the manhunt really started. 231 00:14:54,793 --> 00:14:58,172 At some point, the kidnapper tried to get out 232 00:14:58,172 --> 00:15:02,172 of the area with that vehicle and managed to get it stuck. 233 00:15:02,172 --> 00:15:06,620 He got it stuck in a very, very remote area to where it 234 00:15:06,620 --> 00:15:08,724 was completely inoperable, 235 00:15:08,724 --> 00:15:11,724 and he fled on foot from that vehicle. 236 00:15:11,724 --> 00:15:14,413 The SWAT team tried to follow the tracks as far as 237 00:15:14,413 --> 00:15:17,103 they could, and based on the terrain and everything, 238 00:15:17,103 --> 00:15:18,931 they lost the tracks. 239 00:15:20,448 --> 00:15:24,379 The three young men did a drawing to give us a general 240 00:15:24,379 --> 00:15:26,517 idea of what the guy might look like. 241 00:15:27,551 --> 00:15:31,000 We knew he had darker skin, black hair. 242 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,793 He wore glasses and kind of wore clothing that looked like 243 00:15:35,793 --> 00:15:38,310 he might have been a hiker, but that's about it. 244 00:15:38,310 --> 00:15:41,689 We had nothing on this guy. We didn't know who he was. 245 00:15:41,689 --> 00:15:43,482 We didn't know where he was. 246 00:15:43,482 --> 00:15:46,724 And we didn't know what his capability was. 247 00:15:46,724 --> 00:15:50,448 We were worried he was going to hurt somebody eventually if 248 00:15:50,448 --> 00:15:51,724 we didn't find him. 249 00:15:59,448 --> 00:16:02,344 July 30th was a Thursday. 250 00:16:02,344 --> 00:16:05,344 Thursday nights are a easygoing, relaxing night. 251 00:16:05,344 --> 00:16:08,068 We'd play video games with the kids. 252 00:16:08,068 --> 00:16:11,862 - That night, I saw my mother-in-law calling me. 253 00:16:11,862 --> 00:16:14,862 And so I answered, and she was 254 00:16:14,862 --> 00:16:19,275 kind of hysterical, saying that 255 00:16:19,275 --> 00:16:22,275 Dave hadn't checked in that night. 256 00:16:22,275 --> 00:16:24,172 Dave is my father-in-law, 257 00:16:24,172 --> 00:16:26,448 and he normally checks in before dark. 258 00:16:26,448 --> 00:16:29,344 My dad's cabin was out in Jawbone Canyon. 259 00:16:29,344 --> 00:16:30,517 He loved it. 260 00:16:30,517 --> 00:16:33,379 He would wake up at 5 o'clock and hop in his truck 261 00:16:33,379 --> 00:16:34,551 and go out there. 262 00:16:34,551 --> 00:16:36,724 The only reason my mom was not with him was she was 263 00:16:36,724 --> 00:16:38,241 recovering from a surgery. 264 00:16:38,241 --> 00:16:41,689 But he always checked in probably around 6 PM. 265 00:16:41,689 --> 00:16:42,965 Sun would still be up. 266 00:16:42,965 --> 00:16:45,137 He just wanted to let you know that I'm in for the night. 267 00:16:45,137 --> 00:16:47,448 And, you know, everything was great. 268 00:16:47,448 --> 00:16:51,000 Cheryl was a bit distraught and wanted to go out and check 269 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,862 to see if he was OK. 270 00:16:53,862 --> 00:16:57,517 Early 2000s is when he actually purchased the cabin. 271 00:16:57,517 --> 00:16:58,689 It was absolutely beautiful. 272 00:16:58,689 --> 00:17:01,137 It was a wood, kind of like looking like a log 273 00:17:01,137 --> 00:17:04,310 cabin, you know, and windows everywhere. 274 00:17:04,310 --> 00:17:07,655 It faced where they had fields, it faced the pond, 275 00:17:07,655 --> 00:17:09,379 very isolated, 276 00:17:09,379 --> 00:17:13,310 and, of course, that was part of the charm. 277 00:17:13,310 --> 00:17:17,724 It was very relaxing-- because we don't have cell reception, 278 00:17:17,724 --> 00:17:20,413 that let us unplug just from life. 279 00:17:20,413 --> 00:17:23,068 It just gave us a couple days where really all you did was 280 00:17:23,068 --> 00:17:26,172 just enjoy where you were, like in the moment, like you're 281 00:17:26,172 --> 00:17:29,275 just on vacation in this cool little cabin out there. 282 00:17:29,275 --> 00:17:33,000 When he bought that, he was looking for a place to-- 283 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,103 just to have his own kind of refuge. 284 00:17:35,103 --> 00:17:38,344 He wanted his own spot where he could do just what he wanted 285 00:17:38,344 --> 00:17:40,310 to do, make it his own. 286 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,000 My grandpa grew up gold mining, and so he taught my dad. 287 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,034 And my dad just loved it. We used to joke. 288 00:17:49,034 --> 00:17:50,689 I said, you're the only dentist that has a dump truck 289 00:17:50,689 --> 00:17:52,310 and a dynamite permit. 290 00:17:52,310 --> 00:17:54,379 I just think to myself and laugh, like, 291 00:17:54,379 --> 00:17:56,241 my dad is so cool. 292 00:17:56,241 --> 00:18:00,896 Where my dad's cabin was, there are not a lot of people. 293 00:18:00,896 --> 00:18:04,172 So your nearest neighbor, you can't just call for help. 294 00:18:05,862 --> 00:18:07,931 I mean, that's really scary. 295 00:18:07,931 --> 00:18:10,931 And here's my dad, who's just out there because 296 00:18:10,931 --> 00:18:12,724 that's his retirement, and he loves it. 297 00:18:17,793 --> 00:18:21,862 Cheryl comes over to the house, and she's very upset 298 00:18:21,862 --> 00:18:23,379 at this point and wants me to drive. 299 00:18:23,379 --> 00:18:25,758 So she says, "You know the road better. 300 00:18:25,758 --> 00:18:28,034 "You know the place better. Can you drive? 301 00:18:28,034 --> 00:18:29,310 And we'll go from there." 302 00:18:30,448 --> 00:18:32,275 From our house to get to the cabin, 303 00:18:32,275 --> 00:18:34,827 it could go anywhere from an hour and five minutes to 304 00:18:34,827 --> 00:18:37,103 an hour and 15 minutes, depending on road conditions. 305 00:18:37,103 --> 00:18:40,620 But I have to stay home because I've got two little kids that 306 00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:42,241 are now in bed. 307 00:18:42,241 --> 00:18:45,310 My mom and Ryan leave about 9:30. 308 00:18:45,310 --> 00:18:47,551 And now the time is ticking, and I'm waiting. 309 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,482 I'm kind of doing this vicious cycle of cell phone calls. 310 00:18:51,482 --> 00:18:54,000 I'm calling my dad's satellite phone, his cell phone, 311 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,620 the house phone. 312 00:18:55,620 --> 00:18:57,137 I'm starting to now get a little panicked, 313 00:18:57,137 --> 00:18:58,724 and I'm starting to yell a little louder, 314 00:18:58,724 --> 00:19:00,137 "Dad, it's Kristi, dad. 315 00:19:00,137 --> 00:19:02,275 "Like, you need to pick up this phone. 316 00:19:02,275 --> 00:19:03,586 I'm really worried." 317 00:19:15,689 --> 00:19:19,241 Earlier in the week, it was on social media. 318 00:19:19,241 --> 00:19:23,241 Somebody had mentioned something about some boys 319 00:19:23,241 --> 00:19:27,448 getting kidnapped and not a lot of information about it. 320 00:19:27,448 --> 00:19:31,137 I thought, that's somewhat close as the crow flies. 321 00:19:31,137 --> 00:19:34,827 But crossing that distance would take, especially on foot, 322 00:19:34,827 --> 00:19:38,103 quite a while, so I didn't think too much of it. 323 00:19:39,275 --> 00:19:42,931 As we pulled up in the headlights, I could see 324 00:19:43,689 --> 00:19:48,000 on the ranch road where it looked like a car had skidded 325 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:53,172 to a stop and pushed up dirt in front of the tires. 326 00:19:53,172 --> 00:19:55,482 My dad was very meticulous about keeping the roads 327 00:19:55,482 --> 00:19:58,827 really nice-- that's not something my dad would ever leave. 328 00:19:59,586 --> 00:20:02,931 If he had done something like that, he would have got out, 329 00:20:02,931 --> 00:20:04,862 raked it flat, and made it look pretty again. 330 00:20:04,862 --> 00:20:07,896 Immediately, I thought that that was odd. 331 00:20:10,137 --> 00:20:14,310 When we approached the cabin, everything was completely dark, 332 00:20:15,172 --> 00:20:16,724 and his truck isn't there. 333 00:20:16,724 --> 00:20:19,413 So we think he's not here, he's not around. 334 00:20:19,413 --> 00:20:21,931 I asked Cheryl, do you think we should check the cabin just 335 00:20:21,931 --> 00:20:24,241 in case? And she said, "Yes." 336 00:20:27,689 --> 00:20:31,068 - Cheryl was still very frantic, 337 00:20:32,551 --> 00:20:33,793 as was I. 338 00:20:33,793 --> 00:20:39,482 I was worried just because everything seemingly looked 339 00:20:39,482 --> 00:20:40,793 fairly normal. 340 00:20:41,793 --> 00:20:43,896 I had packed up my rifle, just in case. 341 00:20:43,896 --> 00:20:47,310 You never know if an animal is an issue. 342 00:20:47,310 --> 00:20:50,620 And on the rare case, there could be a person. 343 00:20:51,896 --> 00:20:55,620 I grabbed my rifle, had my flashlight. 344 00:20:55,620 --> 00:20:57,655 - Cheryl was 345 00:20:57,655 --> 00:21:00,413 up on the steps going into the cabin. 346 00:21:01,448 --> 00:21:04,000 And I was hanging back just a little bit, 347 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,000 shining my flashlight, just making sure there was 348 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,620 nothing out of the ordinary. 349 00:21:14,689 --> 00:21:19,275 I noticed that that back window was open, and it seemed off. 350 00:21:26,103 --> 00:21:30,000 I followed Cheryl in, and it was dark inside. 351 00:21:33,724 --> 00:21:36,724 I still had my flashlight on so I could see a little bit. 352 00:21:38,275 --> 00:21:40,206 And I walked around the corner, 353 00:21:41,482 --> 00:21:45,517 and immediately, she screamed, "Oh no." 354 00:21:46,344 --> 00:21:48,275 And I knew... 355 00:21:50,896 --> 00:21:52,724 at that moment, it was bad. 356 00:22:12,137 --> 00:22:13,827 Ryan runs into the kitchen, 357 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,206 and there was my dad. 358 00:22:18,241 --> 00:22:22,034 He'd been shot, and I immediately knew 359 00:22:22,034 --> 00:22:23,310 he was dead. 360 00:22:25,379 --> 00:22:26,655 I knew what I was seeing. 361 00:22:26,655 --> 00:22:28,551 I knew what was happening, but I couldn't quite 362 00:22:28,551 --> 00:22:29,689 comprehend it. 363 00:22:31,344 --> 00:22:33,827 Ryan immediately runs to my mom, and he's like, 364 00:22:33,827 --> 00:22:35,413 "We have to get out of here." 365 00:22:35,413 --> 00:22:37,896 We were in grave potential danger. 366 00:22:39,448 --> 00:22:42,379 Somebody could be out here right now. 367 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,620 We jumped into the vehicle, 368 00:22:58,172 --> 00:23:02,310 and I thought, what if somebody climbed in here while 369 00:23:02,310 --> 00:23:03,689 we were inside? 370 00:23:05,241 --> 00:23:08,000 I said, "Cheryl, make sure there's nobody hiding in 371 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,275 the back right now." 372 00:23:16,379 --> 00:23:18,620 Everything's good. 373 00:23:18,620 --> 00:23:22,034 We start going down the county road, and a lot of 374 00:23:22,034 --> 00:23:23,965 that's a blur. 375 00:23:23,965 --> 00:23:25,931 We were both hysterical. 376 00:23:27,172 --> 00:23:31,103 It took us about a half hour to get back to a cell signal. 377 00:23:31,103 --> 00:23:34,000 And we stop, and Cheryl calls 911. 378 00:23:35,241 --> 00:23:39,275 And from there, dispatch does their thing. 379 00:23:39,275 --> 00:23:42,310 At this point in time, our homicide detectives were 380 00:23:42,310 --> 00:23:44,758 working the scene, collecting evidence. 381 00:23:44,758 --> 00:23:48,827 What we did learn early on is that his vehicle was missing 382 00:23:48,827 --> 00:23:50,000 from the residence. 383 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:55,517 Daybreak the next day, we did locate his vehicle 384 00:23:55,517 --> 00:24:00,344 run off of a remote road, stuck in very similar fashion 385 00:24:00,344 --> 00:24:01,689 to the ATV. 386 00:24:01,689 --> 00:24:06,000 And outside of Mr. Markiewitz's vehicle, we were able to locate 387 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,000 shoe track on the ground outside of 388 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,517 the driver's side door. 389 00:24:10,517 --> 00:24:14,241 Those boot marks were very, very similar in pattern 390 00:24:14,241 --> 00:24:18,517 and size to the boot marks that we located and were initially 391 00:24:18,517 --> 00:24:21,827 tracking at the cabin where the three young adults were 392 00:24:21,827 --> 00:24:23,206 held against their will. 393 00:24:24,241 --> 00:24:28,000 That was a very significant escalation in the case. 394 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,689 We suspected this was the same person that had eluded us 395 00:24:32,689 --> 00:24:34,344 the first time. 396 00:24:34,344 --> 00:24:37,965 I was really concerned that he's out there free, 397 00:24:37,965 --> 00:24:39,275 running around. 398 00:24:39,275 --> 00:24:43,931 We're in the span of two days, and we know this person has not 399 00:24:43,931 --> 00:24:46,758 only kidnapped and held people against their will, 400 00:24:46,758 --> 00:24:49,586 and threatened them at gunpoint, he's now murdered 401 00:24:49,586 --> 00:24:51,068 an innocent person. 402 00:24:53,034 --> 00:24:57,965 When you have someone who has no qualms about taking a life 403 00:24:57,965 --> 00:25:00,931 from a complete stranger, that means he has no problems 404 00:25:00,931 --> 00:25:03,172 taking another life if they happen to cross him. 405 00:25:03,172 --> 00:25:06,655 So this is a person who needs to be stopped. 406 00:25:06,655 --> 00:25:11,241 That makes this an all-hands-on-deck investigation. 407 00:25:11,241 --> 00:25:15,586 We dispatched special weapons and tactics team members to 408 00:25:15,586 --> 00:25:17,862 Mr. Markiewitz's cabin, 409 00:25:17,862 --> 00:25:22,000 and we began tactical operations in that area. 410 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,310 Man tracking, it's not the same as, like, search and rescue. 411 00:25:25,310 --> 00:25:27,448 Search and rescue, you're looking for someone 412 00:25:27,448 --> 00:25:29,034 who wants to be found. 413 00:25:29,034 --> 00:25:31,793 When you're man tracking, that person's trying to 414 00:25:31,793 --> 00:25:34,068 avoid you, and they've already got time on you. 415 00:25:34,068 --> 00:25:35,724 They've already got distance on you. 416 00:25:35,724 --> 00:25:39,379 Our whole SWAT team was split up into two 10-man groups. 417 00:25:39,379 --> 00:25:44,275 Each team had a couple snipers. We had off-road vehicles. 418 00:25:44,275 --> 00:25:46,827 We had the helicopter flying. 419 00:25:47,689 --> 00:25:51,068 The plan was is hopefully find the tracks up ahead further so 420 00:25:51,068 --> 00:25:53,172 that then we could gain ground on the person, 421 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,206 find this person as fast as possible. 422 00:25:58,379 --> 00:26:00,896 We realized that he probably knew what we were doing 423 00:26:00,896 --> 00:26:03,517 because every day was a different track. 424 00:26:03,517 --> 00:26:06,068 He doubled back. He was circling around. 425 00:26:06,068 --> 00:26:08,655 He knows we know what he did. 426 00:26:08,655 --> 00:26:11,517 So he used every trick that he knew to evade us. 427 00:26:11,517 --> 00:26:15,586 It appeared that this person not only knew the area, 428 00:26:15,586 --> 00:26:19,551 but he was leading caches around for him to come back to, 429 00:26:19,551 --> 00:26:23,310 so he could move back and forth and resupply, which tells us 430 00:26:23,310 --> 00:26:25,034 that he's thinking ahead. 431 00:26:25,034 --> 00:26:27,241 Every little thing can be a clue. 432 00:26:27,241 --> 00:26:31,379 It's not just footprints, candy wrapper, cigarette butt, 433 00:26:31,379 --> 00:26:33,344 broken branches. 434 00:26:33,344 --> 00:26:35,827 All this stuff, these are clues. 435 00:26:45,448 --> 00:26:46,896 We found a water bottle 436 00:26:46,896 --> 00:26:48,689 and some supplies that were abandoned. 437 00:26:48,689 --> 00:26:50,068 Bottle had been used. 438 00:26:50,068 --> 00:26:51,689 It wasn't fresh. It wasn't sealed. 439 00:26:51,689 --> 00:26:55,862 So we thought maybe we could get a DNA hit on it. 440 00:26:55,862 --> 00:26:58,413 It was delivered to the labs. 441 00:27:00,068 --> 00:27:02,758 They did get a positive hit. 442 00:27:02,758 --> 00:27:06,103 And that's where we first identify the stranger that 443 00:27:06,103 --> 00:27:08,000 we've been tracking this whole time. 444 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,275 The suspect was Benjamin Peter Ashley. 445 00:27:12,655 --> 00:27:17,000 Several years back, he had been arrested for breaking into 446 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,620 houses and burglarizing the house. 447 00:27:19,620 --> 00:27:21,689 And so he was in our system. So we had a picture. 448 00:27:21,689 --> 00:27:25,551 We had a name, age, all of that. 449 00:27:25,551 --> 00:27:28,000 He was from the LA area. 450 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,620 And he was a drifter, just kind of did his own thing. 451 00:27:31,620 --> 00:27:34,896 And he was very familiar with the area and was an avid hiker. 452 00:27:36,275 --> 00:27:38,827 Dealing with somebody that we think may know this terrain 453 00:27:38,827 --> 00:27:41,758 puts us even on more high alert. 454 00:27:41,758 --> 00:27:44,310 This was a mountain man, very capable of eluding us. 455 00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:46,172 He was in really good shape. 456 00:27:46,172 --> 00:27:49,068 He was acclimated to that type of terrain. 457 00:27:49,068 --> 00:27:51,310 He was acclimated to that type of weather. 458 00:27:51,310 --> 00:27:53,586 We were in his element, not ours. 459 00:27:53,586 --> 00:27:56,862 And when you're in the other person's element, 460 00:27:56,862 --> 00:27:58,068 they have an advantage. 461 00:28:05,344 --> 00:28:09,000 On the morning of August 1st, 2015, we continued tracking. 462 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:14,758 As we came across structures and trailers and residences 463 00:28:14,758 --> 00:28:19,551 that appeared maybe unsecured, and there was nobody obviously 464 00:28:19,551 --> 00:28:22,172 there, we would search those to ensure that 465 00:28:22,172 --> 00:28:23,758 this person wasn't there. 466 00:28:23,758 --> 00:28:26,517 Now this is a small team, because we were 467 00:28:26,517 --> 00:28:30,137 a tracking team-- this was not the typical SWAT call out. 468 00:28:30,137 --> 00:28:32,413 We find the track again on a dirt road, 469 00:28:32,413 --> 00:28:34,172 and we start following it. 470 00:28:37,379 --> 00:28:42,103 And the tracks go into a field and towards a house. 471 00:28:53,965 --> 00:28:56,310 I tried the door, and it's unlocked. 472 00:28:56,310 --> 00:29:00,103 I let my team leader know, hey, we got an unlocked door 473 00:29:00,103 --> 00:29:04,413 and we make a game plan-- I will go first. 474 00:29:13,413 --> 00:29:16,172 And I didn't see anything out of place that just, it just 475 00:29:16,172 --> 00:29:17,413 didn't feel right. 476 00:29:29,689 --> 00:29:33,379 I take two more steps, and... 477 00:29:38,655 --> 00:29:39,827 and then I feel... 478 00:29:42,586 --> 00:29:46,344 the bones in both my arms break at the same time, 479 00:29:48,965 --> 00:29:52,758 and next thing I know, I'm looking at the ceiling. 480 00:30:06,965 --> 00:30:10,379 I'm laying on my back, and I see that there's blood 481 00:30:10,379 --> 00:30:14,655 on both my arms, and I call out that I'm hit, 482 00:30:16,655 --> 00:30:19,448 and all hell breaks loose. 483 00:30:26,482 --> 00:30:29,896 Benjamin Ashley was shooting at my team, and my team was 484 00:30:29,896 --> 00:30:33,344 backing out of the house to get away from the gunfire. 485 00:30:37,034 --> 00:30:40,068 I can't fight back. Both my arms are down. 486 00:30:40,068 --> 00:30:41,379 I can't get up. 487 00:30:41,379 --> 00:30:44,448 And so I was kind of laying there, thinking the last thing 488 00:30:44,448 --> 00:30:46,620 I was gonna see was Ashley look at me, point a gun 489 00:30:46,620 --> 00:30:49,137 in my face, and that was gonna be it for me. 490 00:30:50,965 --> 00:30:55,793 About that time, one of my teammates grabbed me 491 00:30:55,793 --> 00:30:59,379 and drags me out of the room and onto the deck. 492 00:31:01,827 --> 00:31:06,000 And while the team was shooting into the house, 493 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,379 they were trying to patch me up. 494 00:31:11,344 --> 00:31:14,103 The bullet shattered the bone in my forearm and blew out 495 00:31:14,103 --> 00:31:18,000 the artery, and they were trying to stop the bleeding 496 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,137 and save my life. 497 00:31:22,137 --> 00:31:25,689 And because of that, Benjamin Ashley was able to 498 00:31:25,689 --> 00:31:27,413 escape out the back door of the house, 499 00:31:27,413 --> 00:31:29,655 and he ran off into the forest. 500 00:31:32,758 --> 00:31:35,172 We couldn't chase him because he had the advantage. 501 00:31:35,172 --> 00:31:36,965 He knew the terrain. 502 00:31:40,068 --> 00:31:44,551 So we focused on getting Booker to survive his wounds. 503 00:31:45,482 --> 00:31:48,206 And thankfully, we had our helicopter close, 504 00:31:48,206 --> 00:31:51,344 and we loaded him up and got him medical aid. 505 00:31:51,344 --> 00:31:55,034 If he had just waited a second longer, if I had taken another 506 00:31:55,034 --> 00:31:57,206 step, it wouldn't have hit my arms. 507 00:31:57,206 --> 00:32:00,068 It would have hit underneath my armpit where 508 00:32:00,068 --> 00:32:01,482 my armor doesn't cover, 509 00:32:01,482 --> 00:32:03,793 and it would have gone through lungs and heart, 510 00:32:03,793 --> 00:32:05,413 and I wouldn't be here. 511 00:32:09,068 --> 00:32:12,413 We now know this person just has no fear and will do 512 00:32:12,413 --> 00:32:15,586 anything humanly possible to evade capture. 513 00:32:16,482 --> 00:32:19,137 I was really concerned that he was gonna hurt more of 514 00:32:19,137 --> 00:32:22,379 my team or if he's gonna hurt somebody who just lives 515 00:32:22,379 --> 00:32:24,344 out there and minding their own business. 516 00:32:25,275 --> 00:32:28,758 That was my biggest horror about it. 517 00:32:28,758 --> 00:32:30,310 It was like, who's gonna be next? 518 00:32:32,034 --> 00:32:35,275 In those initial days after Booker was shot, 519 00:32:35,275 --> 00:32:40,034 we had either lost track or the terrain was not capable 520 00:32:40,034 --> 00:32:41,344 of preserving a track. 521 00:32:43,172 --> 00:32:46,172 It was evident that we were gonna have to try to do some 522 00:32:46,172 --> 00:32:47,758 things differently at this point. 523 00:32:54,482 --> 00:33:00,241 Mr. Ashley is 34 years old, 5' 11", 180 pounds, black hair, 524 00:33:00,241 --> 00:33:02,344 green eyes, and he's a black male. 525 00:33:03,103 --> 00:33:04,379 And... what's that? 526 00:33:04,379 --> 00:33:07,413 I can't go into too great a detail in this investigation 527 00:33:07,413 --> 00:33:09,034 because it's still ongoing. 528 00:33:09,034 --> 00:33:13,103 But, again, I'd like to commend the officers and the civilians 529 00:33:13,103 --> 00:33:15,413 of this organization for the commitment 530 00:33:16,172 --> 00:33:19,034 and the tenacity it took to get to where we're at, 531 00:33:19,034 --> 00:33:20,551 and we're not done yet. 532 00:33:20,551 --> 00:33:24,931 This is very, very widely broadcast into the media, 533 00:33:24,931 --> 00:33:30,724 and the community took a vested interest in this and wanted not 534 00:33:30,724 --> 00:33:33,586 only safety and closure, but wanted to support us. 535 00:33:34,551 --> 00:33:37,586 It is almost like the worst game of telephone people have 536 00:33:37,586 --> 00:33:41,034 ever played-- you don't know what's correct. 537 00:33:41,034 --> 00:33:42,241 You're watching the news. 538 00:33:42,241 --> 00:33:45,724 You're getting phone calls from sheriff's detectives, 539 00:33:45,724 --> 00:33:46,965 this and that. 540 00:33:46,965 --> 00:33:49,413 And they kind of had lost the track for a little bit. 541 00:33:49,413 --> 00:33:50,965 Now we're scared. 542 00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:54,000 Is he coming to get us now? 543 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,206 Like, a lot of irrational things go through your head. 544 00:33:58,206 --> 00:34:00,655 I heard that he had shot and killed somebody. 545 00:34:01,689 --> 00:34:02,965 And I felt depressed. 546 00:34:02,965 --> 00:34:05,758 My first thought was like, we could have stopped all this. 547 00:34:05,758 --> 00:34:09,206 Maybe we could have possibly held him down. 548 00:34:10,620 --> 00:34:12,655 But I felt like God gave us a reason to live. 549 00:34:12,655 --> 00:34:13,965 He let us live that day. 550 00:34:13,965 --> 00:34:17,724 And I would almost say it's a miracle, because I still think 551 00:34:17,724 --> 00:34:19,275 till today, we should have been dead. 552 00:34:24,689 --> 00:34:27,965 August is as hot as it gets in Kern County. 553 00:34:29,896 --> 00:34:32,551 We had to be careful that we didn't get heat exhaustion. 554 00:34:35,448 --> 00:34:38,137 Our personnel are getting very little sleep, 555 00:34:38,137 --> 00:34:40,241 hiking miles per day, 556 00:34:41,482 --> 00:34:43,965 wearing body armor and carrying equipment. 557 00:34:46,862 --> 00:34:50,965 Our tactical team members were being very vigilant on 558 00:34:50,965 --> 00:34:53,103 the lookout for where could somebody hide. 559 00:34:55,344 --> 00:34:57,448 Is he in a cave? Is he in a mine shaft? 560 00:34:57,448 --> 00:35:00,448 What's gonna prevent him from ambushing law enforcement? 561 00:35:01,620 --> 00:35:05,379 We had a lot to think about from our safety standpoint, 562 00:35:05,379 --> 00:35:08,379 not just capturing Benjamin Peter Ashley. 563 00:35:08,379 --> 00:35:10,965 But we're not going to come off this till we have 564 00:35:10,965 --> 00:35:13,000 Benjamin Peter Ashley in custody. 565 00:35:21,241 --> 00:35:22,689 August 15th, 566 00:35:23,655 --> 00:35:26,551 we get a call from Brady's Mini Market in 567 00:35:26,551 --> 00:35:29,586 the community of Inyokern. 568 00:35:29,586 --> 00:35:33,586 This was approximately 20 miles from where I was shot. 569 00:35:33,586 --> 00:35:36,793 The clerk explained that the person that was on the news 570 00:35:36,793 --> 00:35:40,586 just walked in the store, got some ice cream, a couple of 571 00:35:40,586 --> 00:35:42,896 candy bars, and then left. 572 00:35:50,275 --> 00:35:55,448 We dispatched patrol deputies out to the Brady's Market in 573 00:35:55,448 --> 00:36:00,827 Inyokern, and they were directed to a trail behind 574 00:36:00,827 --> 00:36:03,620 the market to where the person was last seen. 575 00:36:07,379 --> 00:36:11,689 When the person saw them, he hid behind a tall bush where 576 00:36:11,689 --> 00:36:14,689 they couldn't see him, and they stopped and they drew down on him. 577 00:36:14,689 --> 00:36:17,000 We know what we're up against. 578 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,862 This is somebody who is not going to comply with us. 579 00:36:21,655 --> 00:36:23,275 They were challenging him, saying, 580 00:36:23,275 --> 00:36:24,448 "Come out with your hands up," 581 00:36:24,448 --> 00:36:26,793 and he came out with a gun. 582 00:36:26,793 --> 00:36:28,689 He wasn't gonna go quietly. 583 00:36:41,275 --> 00:36:45,172 The patrol officers pulled up and confronted Benjamin Ashley. 584 00:36:49,068 --> 00:36:52,137 They gave the orders to come out with your hands up. 585 00:36:54,827 --> 00:36:56,137 He came out with a gun. 586 00:36:56,137 --> 00:36:58,689 And at that point, they had their weapons drawn. 587 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,551 He was given every opportunity to turn himself in 588 00:37:04,551 --> 00:37:06,137 and chose not to. 589 00:37:08,344 --> 00:37:10,758 That's when an officer-involved shooting occurred. 590 00:37:10,758 --> 00:37:13,275 Benjamin Peter Ashley was ultimately 591 00:37:13,275 --> 00:37:15,103 shot and killed by our deputies. 592 00:37:18,379 --> 00:37:21,275 I never feel joy for a death. 593 00:37:23,827 --> 00:37:27,103 You don't know what was going through Benjamin Peter Ashley's 594 00:37:27,103 --> 00:37:29,551 mind, but at the end of the day, none of that matters 595 00:37:29,551 --> 00:37:31,517 when it comes time to protect your community. 596 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:38,413 Why kidnap three young men that have nothing to do with you? 597 00:37:38,413 --> 00:37:42,000 Why kill a person in their own home? 598 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,206 I think that he wanted to stay incognito and just do what 599 00:37:46,206 --> 00:37:49,034 he's wanting to do without any resistance. 600 00:37:49,034 --> 00:37:52,689 He was worried they would call for the Sheriff's Department 601 00:37:52,689 --> 00:37:54,448 and then people would be looking for him. 602 00:37:54,448 --> 00:37:55,931 He obviously didn't want that. 603 00:37:58,758 --> 00:38:02,000 Seems to me like this was like six weeks of a manhunt, 604 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,448 but it was 18 days. 605 00:38:05,241 --> 00:38:08,310 It was a 24-hour-a-day operation for 18 days. 606 00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:11,379 That's nothing that we had experienced. 607 00:38:11,379 --> 00:38:13,000 And the support that we received 608 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,689 from our leadership, 609 00:38:15,689 --> 00:38:17,862 as well as the community, it couldn't have been 610 00:38:17,862 --> 00:38:20,482 accomplished without that support. 611 00:38:20,482 --> 00:38:22,344 I needed to know that he wasn't a threat anymore. 612 00:38:22,344 --> 00:38:26,413 So I drove out there, and it was definitely him. 613 00:38:26,413 --> 00:38:29,827 That was a relief for me, kind of ending to this 614 00:38:29,827 --> 00:38:31,034 whole nightmare. 615 00:38:31,827 --> 00:38:33,620 The hunt is over. We're done. 616 00:38:38,137 --> 00:38:42,172 I get a call from my brother. He says, "They killed him." 617 00:38:42,172 --> 00:38:44,689 I'm like, "What?" "No, they got him." 618 00:38:46,793 --> 00:38:49,241 At the time, I was, you know, like, 619 00:38:49,241 --> 00:38:51,000 hell yeah. 620 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,103 I was happy, but now that I grew older, man, I kind of wish 621 00:38:54,103 --> 00:38:56,172 that guy could get some help, figure out what the hell was 622 00:38:56,172 --> 00:38:57,379 wrong with that guy. 623 00:38:59,689 --> 00:39:02,655 If I had to piece together what I thought happened, 624 00:39:05,896 --> 00:39:08,172 I think Dave was done for the day working, 625 00:39:08,172 --> 00:39:12,689 mining, and came back to the house, opened a window 626 00:39:12,689 --> 00:39:15,689 or two-- and that guy had been watching, 627 00:39:17,655 --> 00:39:19,000 and snuck inside, 628 00:39:20,965 --> 00:39:23,103 and took that opportunity to shoot him... 629 00:39:25,689 --> 00:39:29,206 That's maybe what happened. 630 00:39:29,206 --> 00:39:33,758 Unfortunately, Dave being such a loving, sharing, caring kind 631 00:39:33,758 --> 00:39:37,758 of guy, this guy could have come up to him with any kind of 632 00:39:37,758 --> 00:39:40,034 story, and Dave would have helped him. 633 00:39:40,034 --> 00:39:42,827 I've been out in the wilderness, been camping, 634 00:39:42,827 --> 00:39:47,034 been shooting, but never went back to Caliente, California. 635 00:39:47,034 --> 00:39:48,275 Never been back. 636 00:39:52,448 --> 00:39:54,379 It changed my life forever. 637 00:39:55,344 --> 00:39:59,000 12 surgeries later, and a couple of years of 638 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,275 physical therapy and everything, 639 00:40:00,275 --> 00:40:02,689 and getting things back to right, and I'm... 640 00:40:03,413 --> 00:40:05,655 back with my family and not with 641 00:40:05,655 --> 00:40:07,448 the Sheriff's Department anymore. 642 00:40:09,931 --> 00:40:13,586 My dad was one of my husband's best friends. 643 00:40:13,586 --> 00:40:16,793 And that was hard because it was like my husband losing his dad, 644 00:40:16,793 --> 00:40:18,931 you know, just because my dad always treated my husband 645 00:40:18,931 --> 00:40:20,620 just like his son. 646 00:40:20,620 --> 00:40:22,965 It was never, well, that's my daughter's husband. 647 00:40:22,965 --> 00:40:24,551 It was, that's his son. 648 00:40:27,758 --> 00:40:31,000 Without David, it's like there's a void, 649 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,206 a missing piece. 650 00:40:34,310 --> 00:40:35,758 I miss him a lot. 651 00:40:35,758 --> 00:40:39,344 There's so many different things that we would do on 652 00:40:39,344 --> 00:40:40,965 a regular basis out there between 653 00:40:40,965 --> 00:40:44,172 mining, and hunting, and shooting, and fishing. 654 00:40:44,172 --> 00:40:47,965 That kind of stuff would have been done monthly. 655 00:40:47,965 --> 00:40:51,413 We'd be out there all the time, and now that hasn't happened. 656 00:40:56,034 --> 00:40:58,310 Life can change in a heartbeat. 657 00:40:58,310 --> 00:41:00,206 After that instance, you're like, when's the last 658 00:41:00,206 --> 00:41:01,862 time you're gonna tell someone you love them? 659 00:41:01,862 --> 00:41:03,586 When, you know? 660 00:41:04,793 --> 00:41:07,620 So never forget to say I love you. 661 00:41:07,620 --> 00:41:12,379 Just cherish life, you know? Cherish the things that matter. 662 00:41:12,379 --> 00:41:14,965 Don't worry about the things that don't. 663 00:41:14,965 --> 00:41:17,551 Hold on to the ones that you love a little tighter, 664 00:41:17,551 --> 00:41:21,551 because life is definitely precious, and it's a gift. 53581

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