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Where my dad's cabin was,
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there are not a lot of people,
you can't just call for help.
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The area is very isolated.
It can be very dangerous.
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Everything was completely dark.
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And immediately,
I knew it was bad.
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He came out with a gun.
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They didn't know, should I run,
should I not?
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Is he gonna shoot me?
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I remember thinking,
I didn't even tell my parents
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where I was
going today.
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My biggest horror
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was like,
who's gonna be next?
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July 28th, 2015,
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I was 19 years old.
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I was just hanging out with
some buddies, Will and Keyton.
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Will was like,
"Hey, let's go shootin'."
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He just got a new .22.
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And we pack up and get some
rounds, get some guns,
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headed towards Caliente to
Will's dad's cabin.
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Caliente, California,
it's a beautiful place, really.
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It's about 25 minutes
away from Bakersfield,
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and it's about 15 miles of
rugged terrain going up
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to the cabin.
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That desert area butts
up against mountains where
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the trees start, so you have
thick forest, and then it gets
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into very steep cliffs
and very hazardous terrain.
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I'm talking about rocks.
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I'm talking about going
vertical on rocks.
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You need
a four-wheel drive.
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A normal SUV
won't get you up there.
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It has to be some type of
off-road-like vehicle.
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They drove to a point where
they park, and then they take
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a quad, and they drive up
the rest of the way
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on a dirt road to the cabin.
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We're just listening
to rock music,
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talking,
talking mess.
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You know, we get to the cabin.
It's very isolated.
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There's trailers,
RVs, a full-out shooting range.
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Just a full-on
man cave, basically.
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As they park,
and they're getting
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their gear
and everything,
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they are confronted by
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a gentleman.
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My first thought was like,
oh, that has to be,
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like, Will's family.
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So I was like,
pretty cool at first.
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I was like,
"Hey, what's up, dude?"
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Then I noticed
he didn't say anything.
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He was wearing all green.
He had a sawed-off 12 gauge.
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He had a bag that sounded like
a bunch of rounds in it.
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He also had a pretty long knife
sticking out of his sleeve,
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like he was ready to
hunt or kill.
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He was out in the wild,
and he was prepared for it.
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He approached us, and my buddy
Will was like, "What the hell?
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What are you doing here?
You're trespassing."
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And he's like, "There's
no one that lives here.
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It's just me."
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That's when I knew
this is bad.
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And from there on, that's when
everything went downhill.
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He was definitely
saying crazy things.
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He told us about
the government dropping him
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from space in
a body bag.
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Made him seem unhinged,
made him just crazy.
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And I kind of started
freaking out.
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I even remember
thinking like, man,
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I didn't even tell my parents
where I was going today.
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I just took off.
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Then he directed them into
the cabin with him at gunpoint.
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They didn't know,
should I run, should I not?
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Is he gonna shoot me?
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Inside the cabin,
he specifically told us,
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"You sit in one corner,
you sit in one corner,
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and you sit
in the middle."
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We were all scared.
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Your body goes into
a certain state.
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You don't feel nothing.
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It's almost like you got to
think of your next move.
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I definitely was thinking of
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my mom, my dad, my sisters,
you know, like, damn,
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like, this is it--
didn't even say, "I love you."
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That was the rough part.
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At that time,
I wasn't too religious,
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but I saved
a prayer.
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He had the shotgun in my face,
finger on the trigger,
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and he said, "Bang,
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bang, bang."
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He's like, "I can kill all
you guys right now and get away
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with it--
nobody will know."
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Which he was completely right.
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You know, middle of nowhere,
no service, yeah,
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you can definitely
get away with it.
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It's not uncommon in the rural
areas for people to go out
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target shooting or hunting,
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and people are not gonna
hear the gunshots.
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And if they do, they may think
it's just completely normal.
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He wouldn't even have to bury
them because he could have left
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them in the elements, and they
would have been taken care of
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by the wild...
and no trace of 'em.
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Three young men have just
disappeared off the face of
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the earth,
and no one knows why.
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During that time,
he was back and forth.
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He's going outside,
he's grabbing cans of food,
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grabbing ammo,
grabbing whatever
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he thinks he needs.
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And he would leave us in
the room, and we'd kind of just
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be talking between each other--
what are we gonna do?
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My buddy Will was, "We're gonna
try and take him down."
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And I told him, I was like,
"Stop, dude.
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"You're gonna get us killed.
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"Do you really wanna see one of
our friends get shot or do
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you really wanna die here?"
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He even actually has
a bag of butane tanks.
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I thought for sure
we were gonna die.
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I couldn't fight my way out.
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I couldn't shoot my way out.
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I couldn't run my way out.
I was stuck.
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There's nothing I could do to
get out of this situation
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besides talk.
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We asked him, "Can we smoke
a cigarette, you know?
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It's the least
you could do it for us."
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He hands us
a cigarette,
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We're just talking.
He's telling us crazy things.
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He talked about him knowing
the devil, that the devil
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brought him back to life,
his last marriage, how it
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wasn't good, talking about
how he respects us.
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He even told us one time,
he said, "You guys are
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my friends.
I love you guys."
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It was a roller coaster
of emotions.
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"Gonna kill you guys
no matter what."
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But we were talking,
talking, trying to get out
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of it--
it felt like torture.
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But in those few hours,
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we kind of started
to figure him out.
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He was just on foot,
breaking into those cabins out
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there, taking
whatever he could.
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He was kind of just
living freely out there.
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I mean, there's nobody around.
There's nothing out there.
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I think he was more
mad that he ran into us,
if anything, you know?
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We kind of calmed him down
to a point
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where we came up
with a deal.
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Like, hey, you take
all of our stuff.
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You take our guns.
You take our side-by-side.
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You know, we'll just walk back,
and you'll be free.
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They told him, "Please just
go, and we won't say anything."
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He's like,
"You're just messing with me.
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You're just lying, you're just
doing this to survive."
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Which we were.
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We all stuck
to a certain game plan.
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We're all on the same page on
manipulating him,
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on making this deal.
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And he's like,
"I respect you guys.
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That's why I'm gonna
let you guys live."
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As crazy as it sounds,
I shook his hand.
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The suspect took
the all-terrain vehicle
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and drove away in it.
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That's when
we ran out that cabin.
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It was just a rush of getting
the hell out of here.
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Didn't even look back,
just ran.
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Ran straight to the riverbed.
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In that riverbed,
there's a bunch of shrubs.
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There's a bunch of things that
can hide us, and it would take
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us back to where
we needed to be.
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There's no cellular service
in those areas, so they had to
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make their way to safety before
they could even make contact
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with law enforcement.
We're traumatized.
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Any little thing, any wind,
we're looking behind us.
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We started to realize,
like, we're not making any way.
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Sun's already dropping.
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That riverbed is taking
too long.
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So we got back onto
the main road.
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And as we're walking down
the main road...
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...that's when we heard him
coming back towards us.
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He'd changed his mind.
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He was gonna come kill us.
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We're walking down
the dirt road, and...
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we hear
the side-by-side.
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He was coming back to kill us.
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He did not want them going
and reporting
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this particular incident.
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They were actively being hunted
down by him.
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He was mobile.
They're on foot.
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We all dove face first,
and...
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and as we dove,
we were capable
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of just rolling over and kind
of hiding ourselves
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from the main road.
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We laid there for a good five
minutes until we didn't hear
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that engine no more.
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And that's when we got back up
and started hiking that
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trail again.
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There's no doubt in my mind
that he would have
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eliminated those young men.
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Keyton was sick.
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I'm pretty sure
he was dehydrated.
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Dehydrated, scared,
not a good mixture,
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and we had to walk miles.
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If you're not equipped in
the mountains, it can not only
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be scary, it can be deadly.
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There is coyotes.
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There's mountain lions.
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There's a very high
population of
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poisonous rattlesnakes--
it can be very dangerous.
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We seen some headlights.
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I thought that he was
coming back to kill us.
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Our first reaction
was to hide again.
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But as it got closer,
we heard a voice.
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What are you guys doing?
Where's the side-by-side?
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And that's when we knew
it was Will's dad.
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That's when I kind of felt like
a breath of fresh air.
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I'm gonna make it home.
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He could tell by our faces
something happened.
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And that's when my buddy Will
hysterically started saying,
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"We got held hostage, shotgun to
our head, by a crazy man,
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"and he took everything.
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That was the only way we were
gonna to survive."
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Will's dad takes a deep breath
and was just like, "What?"
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And he's like, "Yeah,
we got stuck up."
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It was a quiet ride.
I didn't speak.
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I was just thinking of
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what just happened, like...
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I should be dead.
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Thank God
they escaped and reported to
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law enforcement.
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In 2015,
I was a senior deputy
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for the Kern County
Sheriff's Department.
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I had a dual role as
a detective
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and also as a SWAT
team sniper.
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We have a special operations
group team that is primarily
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SWAT team members that do
special missions.
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We realized how lucky
these three young men were
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and the manhunt really started.
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At some point,
the kidnapper tried to get out
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of the area with that vehicle
and managed to get it stuck.
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He got it stuck in a very,
very remote area to where it
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was completely inoperable,
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and he fled on foot from
that vehicle.
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The SWAT team tried to
follow the tracks as far as
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they could, and based on
the terrain and everything,
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they lost the tracks.
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The three young men did
a drawing to give us a general
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idea of what the guy
might look like.
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We knew he had
darker skin, black hair.
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He wore glasses and kind of
wore clothing that looked like
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he might have been a hiker,
but that's about it.
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We had nothing on this guy.
We didn't know who he was.
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We didn't know where he was.
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And we didn't know
what his capability was.
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We were worried he was going to
hurt somebody eventually if
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we didn't find him.
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July 30th was a Thursday.
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Thursday nights are
a easygoing, relaxing night.
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We'd play video games
with the kids.
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- That night, I saw my
mother-in-law calling me.
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And so I answered,
and she was
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kind of hysterical,
saying that
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Dave hadn't checked in
that night.
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Dave is my father-in-law,
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and he normally checks in
before dark.
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My dad's cabin was out
in Jawbone Canyon.
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He loved it.
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He would wake up at 5 o'clock
and hop in his truck
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and go out there.
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The only reason my mom was not
with him was she was
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recovering from a surgery.
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But he always checked in
probably around 6 PM.
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Sun would still be up.
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He just wanted to let you know
that I'm in for the night.
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And, you know,
everything was great.
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Cheryl was a bit distraught
and wanted to go out and check
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to see if he was OK.
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Early 2000s is when he
actually purchased the cabin.
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It was absolutely beautiful.
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It was a wood, kind of like
looking like a log
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cabin, you know,
and windows everywhere.
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It faced where they had fields,
it faced the pond,
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very isolated,
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and, of course,
that was part of the charm.
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It was very relaxing-- because
we don't have cell reception,
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that let us unplug just
from life.
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It just gave us a couple days
where really all you did was
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just enjoy where you were,
like in the moment, like you're
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just on vacation in this cool
little cabin out there.
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When he bought that,
he was looking for a place to--
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just to have his own
kind of refuge.
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He wanted his own spot where
he could do just what he wanted
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to do, make it his own.
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My grandpa grew up gold
mining, and so he taught my dad.
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And my dad just loved it.
We used to joke.
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I said, you're the only dentist
that has a dump truck
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and a dynamite permit.
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I just think to myself
and laugh, like,
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my dad is so cool.
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Where my dad's cabin was,
there are not a lot of people.
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So your nearest neighbor,
you can't just call for help.
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I mean, that's really scary.
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And here's my dad,
who's just out there because
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that's his retirement,
and he loves it.
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Cheryl comes over to
the house, and she's very upset
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at this point
and wants me to drive.
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So she says, "You know
the road better.
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"You know the place better.
Can you drive?
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And we'll go from there."
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From our house to get
to the cabin,
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it could go anywhere from
an hour and five minutes to
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an hour and 15 minutes,
depending on road conditions.
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But I have to stay home because
I've got two little kids that
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are now in bed.
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My mom and Ryan
leave about 9:30.
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And now the time is ticking,
and I'm waiting.
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I'm kind of doing this vicious
cycle of cell phone calls.
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I'm calling my dad's satellite
phone, his cell phone,
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the house phone.
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I'm starting to now get
a little panicked,
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and I'm starting to yell
a little louder,
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"Dad, it's Kristi, dad.
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"Like, you need to pick up
this phone.
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I'm really worried."
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Earlier in the week,
it was on social media.
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Somebody had mentioned
something about some boys
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getting kidnapped and not a lot
of information about it.
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I thought, that's somewhat
close as the crow flies.
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But crossing that distance
would take, especially on foot,
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quite a while, so I didn't
think too much of it.
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As we pulled up in
the headlights, I could see
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on the ranch road where it
looked like a car had skidded
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to a stop and pushed up dirt
in front of the tires.
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My dad was very meticulous
about keeping the roads
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really nice-- that's
not something my dad
would ever leave.
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If he had done something like
that, he would have got out,
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raked it flat, and made it
look pretty again.
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Immediately, I thought that
that was odd.
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When we approached the cabin,
everything was completely dark,
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and his truck isn't there.
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So we think he's not here,
he's not around.
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I asked Cheryl, do you think
we should check the cabin just
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in case?
And she said, "Yes."
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- Cheryl was still very frantic,
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as was I.
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I was worried just because
everything seemingly looked
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fairly normal.
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I had packed up my rifle,
just in case.
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You never know
if an animal is an issue.
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And on the rare case,
there could be a person.
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I grabbed my rifle,
had my flashlight.
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- Cheryl was
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up on the steps going
into the cabin.
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And I was hanging back
just a little bit,
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shining my flashlight,
just making sure there was
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nothing out
of the ordinary.
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I noticed that that back window
was open, and it seemed off.
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I followed Cheryl in,
and it was dark inside.
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I still had my flashlight on
so I could see a little bit.
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And I walked around the corner,
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and immediately,
she screamed, "Oh no."
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And I knew...
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00:21:50,896 --> 00:21:52,724
at that moment,
it was bad.
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Ryan runs into the kitchen,
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and there was my dad.
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He'd been shot,
and I immediately knew
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he was dead.
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I knew what I was seeing.
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00:22:26,655 --> 00:22:28,551
I knew what was happening,
but I couldn't quite
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00:22:28,551 --> 00:22:29,689
comprehend it.
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00:22:31,344 --> 00:22:33,827
Ryan immediately runs
to my mom, and he's like,
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"We have to
get out of here."
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We were in grave
potential danger.
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Somebody could be
out here right now.
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We jumped into the vehicle,
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00:22:58,172 --> 00:23:02,310
and I thought, what if somebody
climbed in here while
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we were inside?
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I said, "Cheryl, make sure
there's nobody hiding in
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the back right now."
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Everything's good.
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We start going down the county
road, and a lot of
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that's a blur.
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We were both hysterical.
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It took us about a half hour to
get back to a cell signal.
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And we stop,
and Cheryl calls 911.
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00:23:35,241 --> 00:23:39,275
And from there,
dispatch does their thing.
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At this point in time,
our homicide detectives were
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working the scene,
collecting evidence.
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What we did learn early on is
that his vehicle was missing
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from the residence.
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Daybreak the next day,
we did locate his vehicle
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run off of a remote road,
stuck in very similar fashion
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00:24:00,344 --> 00:24:01,689
to the ATV.
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00:24:01,689 --> 00:24:06,000
And outside of Mr. Markiewitz's
vehicle, we were able to locate
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shoe track on
the ground outside of
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the driver's side door.
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00:24:10,517 --> 00:24:14,241
Those boot marks were very,
very similar in pattern
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00:24:14,241 --> 00:24:18,517
and size to the boot marks that
we located and were initially
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00:24:18,517 --> 00:24:21,827
tracking at the cabin where
the three young adults were
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00:24:21,827 --> 00:24:23,206
held against their will.
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00:24:24,241 --> 00:24:28,000
That was a very significant
escalation in the case.
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00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,689
We suspected this was the same
person that had eluded us
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the first time.
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00:24:34,344 --> 00:24:37,965
I was really concerned
that he's out there free,
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00:24:37,965 --> 00:24:39,275
running around.
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00:24:39,275 --> 00:24:43,931
We're in the span of two days,
and we know this person has not
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00:24:43,931 --> 00:24:46,758
only kidnapped and held people
against their will,
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and threatened them at
gunpoint, he's now murdered
401
00:24:49,586 --> 00:24:51,068
an innocent person.
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00:24:53,034 --> 00:24:57,965
When you have someone who has
no qualms about taking a life
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00:24:57,965 --> 00:25:00,931
from a complete stranger,
that means he has no problems
404
00:25:00,931 --> 00:25:03,172
taking another life if
they happen to cross him.
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00:25:03,172 --> 00:25:06,655
So this is a person
who needs to be stopped.
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00:25:06,655 --> 00:25:11,241
That makes this
an all-hands-on-deck
investigation.
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00:25:11,241 --> 00:25:15,586
We dispatched special weapons
and tactics team members to
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00:25:15,586 --> 00:25:17,862
Mr. Markiewitz's cabin,
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00:25:17,862 --> 00:25:22,000
and we began tactical
operations in that area.
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00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,310
Man tracking, it's not the same
as, like, search and rescue.
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Search and rescue,
you're looking for someone
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who wants to be found.
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00:25:29,034 --> 00:25:31,793
When you're man tracking,
that person's trying to
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00:25:31,793 --> 00:25:34,068
avoid you, and they've
already got time on you.
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00:25:34,068 --> 00:25:35,724
They've already
got distance on you.
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00:25:35,724 --> 00:25:39,379
Our whole SWAT team was split
up into two 10-man groups.
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Each team had a couple snipers.
We had off-road vehicles.
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00:25:44,275 --> 00:25:46,827
We had the helicopter flying.
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00:25:47,689 --> 00:25:51,068
The plan was is hopefully find
the tracks up ahead further so
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that then we could gain ground
on the person,
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00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,206
find this person
as fast as possible.
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00:25:58,379 --> 00:26:00,896
We realized that he
probably knew what we were doing
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00:26:00,896 --> 00:26:03,517
because every day was
a different track.
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00:26:03,517 --> 00:26:06,068
He doubled back.
He was circling around.
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00:26:06,068 --> 00:26:08,655
He knows
we know what he did.
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00:26:08,655 --> 00:26:11,517
So he used every trick that
he knew to evade us.
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00:26:11,517 --> 00:26:15,586
It appeared that this
person not only knew the area,
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00:26:15,586 --> 00:26:19,551
but he was leading caches
around for him to come back to,
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00:26:19,551 --> 00:26:23,310
so he could move back and forth
and resupply, which tells us
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that he's thinking ahead.
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00:26:25,034 --> 00:26:27,241
Every little thing can
be a clue.
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00:26:27,241 --> 00:26:31,379
It's not just footprints,
candy wrapper, cigarette butt,
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00:26:31,379 --> 00:26:33,344
broken branches.
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00:26:33,344 --> 00:26:35,827
All this stuff,
these are clues.
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00:26:45,448 --> 00:26:46,896
We found a water bottle
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00:26:46,896 --> 00:26:48,689
and some supplies
that were abandoned.
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00:26:48,689 --> 00:26:50,068
Bottle had been used.
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00:26:50,068 --> 00:26:51,689
It wasn't fresh.
It wasn't sealed.
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00:26:51,689 --> 00:26:55,862
So we thought maybe we could
get a DNA hit on it.
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00:26:55,862 --> 00:26:58,413
It was delivered to the labs.
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00:27:00,068 --> 00:27:02,758
They did get a positive hit.
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00:27:02,758 --> 00:27:06,103
And that's where we first
identify the stranger that
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00:27:06,103 --> 00:27:08,000
we've been tracking this
whole time.
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00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,275
The suspect was
Benjamin Peter Ashley.
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00:27:12,655 --> 00:27:17,000
Several years back, he had been
arrested for breaking into
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houses and burglarizing
the house.
447
00:27:19,620 --> 00:27:21,689
And so he was in our system.
So we had a picture.
448
00:27:21,689 --> 00:27:25,551
We had a name, age,
all of that.
449
00:27:25,551 --> 00:27:28,000
He was from the LA area.
450
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,620
And he was a drifter,
just kind of did his own thing.
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00:27:31,620 --> 00:27:34,896
And he was very familiar with
the area and was an avid hiker.
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Dealing with somebody that
we think may know this terrain
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00:27:38,827 --> 00:27:41,758
puts us even on more
high alert.
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00:27:41,758 --> 00:27:44,310
This was a mountain man,
very capable of eluding us.
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00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:46,172
He was in really good shape.
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He was acclimated
to that type of terrain.
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00:27:49,068 --> 00:27:51,310
He was acclimated
to that type of weather.
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00:27:51,310 --> 00:27:53,586
We were in his element,
not ours.
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And when you're in the other
person's element,
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they have an advantage.
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On the morning of August 1st,
2015, we continued tracking.
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As we came across structures
and trailers and residences
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00:28:14,758 --> 00:28:19,551
that appeared maybe unsecured,
and there was nobody obviously
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00:28:19,551 --> 00:28:22,172
there, we would search those
to ensure that
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00:28:22,172 --> 00:28:23,758
this person wasn't there.
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00:28:23,758 --> 00:28:26,517
Now this is a small
team, because we were
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00:28:26,517 --> 00:28:30,137
a tracking team-- this was not
the typical SWAT call out.
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00:28:30,137 --> 00:28:32,413
We find the track
again on a dirt road,
469
00:28:32,413 --> 00:28:34,172
and we start
following it.
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00:28:37,379 --> 00:28:42,103
And the tracks go into
a field and towards a house.
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00:28:53,965 --> 00:28:56,310
I tried the door,
and it's unlocked.
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00:28:56,310 --> 00:29:00,103
I let my team leader know,
hey, we got an unlocked door
473
00:29:00,103 --> 00:29:04,413
and we make a game plan--
I will go first.
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00:29:13,413 --> 00:29:16,172
And I didn't see anything out
of place that just, it just
475
00:29:16,172 --> 00:29:17,413
didn't feel right.
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00:29:29,689 --> 00:29:33,379
I take two more steps,
and...
477
00:29:38,655 --> 00:29:39,827
and then I feel...
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00:29:42,586 --> 00:29:46,344
the bones in both my arms break
at the same time,
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00:29:48,965 --> 00:29:52,758
and next thing I know,
I'm looking at the ceiling.
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00:30:06,965 --> 00:30:10,379
I'm laying on my back,
and I see that there's blood
481
00:30:10,379 --> 00:30:14,655
on both my arms,
and I call out that I'm hit,
482
00:30:16,655 --> 00:30:19,448
and all hell breaks loose.
483
00:30:26,482 --> 00:30:29,896
Benjamin Ashley was shooting at
my team, and my team was
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00:30:29,896 --> 00:30:33,344
backing out of the house to get
away from the gunfire.
485
00:30:37,034 --> 00:30:40,068
I can't fight back.
Both my arms are down.
486
00:30:40,068 --> 00:30:41,379
I can't get up.
487
00:30:41,379 --> 00:30:44,448
And so I was kind of laying
there, thinking the last thing
488
00:30:44,448 --> 00:30:46,620
I was gonna see was Ashley
look at me, point a gun
489
00:30:46,620 --> 00:30:49,137
in my face, and that was
gonna be it for me.
490
00:30:50,965 --> 00:30:55,793
About that time, one of
my teammates grabbed me
491
00:30:55,793 --> 00:30:59,379
and drags me out of the room
and onto the deck.
492
00:31:01,827 --> 00:31:06,000
And while the team was shooting
into the house,
493
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,379
they were trying to
patch me up.
494
00:31:11,344 --> 00:31:14,103
The bullet shattered the bone
in my forearm and blew out
495
00:31:14,103 --> 00:31:18,000
the artery, and they were
trying to stop the bleeding
496
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,137
and save my life.
497
00:31:22,137 --> 00:31:25,689
And because of that,
Benjamin Ashley was able to
498
00:31:25,689 --> 00:31:27,413
escape out the back door of
the house,
499
00:31:27,413 --> 00:31:29,655
and he ran off
into the forest.
500
00:31:32,758 --> 00:31:35,172
We couldn't chase him because
he had the advantage.
501
00:31:35,172 --> 00:31:36,965
He knew the terrain.
502
00:31:40,068 --> 00:31:44,551
So we focused on getting Booker
to survive his wounds.
503
00:31:45,482 --> 00:31:48,206
And thankfully, we had
our helicopter close,
504
00:31:48,206 --> 00:31:51,344
and we loaded him up
and got him medical aid.
505
00:31:51,344 --> 00:31:55,034
If he had just waited a second
longer, if I had taken another
506
00:31:55,034 --> 00:31:57,206
step, it wouldn't have
hit my arms.
507
00:31:57,206 --> 00:32:00,068
It would have hit underneath
my armpit where
508
00:32:00,068 --> 00:32:01,482
my armor doesn't cover,
509
00:32:01,482 --> 00:32:03,793
and it would have gone through
lungs and heart,
510
00:32:03,793 --> 00:32:05,413
and I wouldn't be here.
511
00:32:09,068 --> 00:32:12,413
We now know this person
just has no fear and will do
512
00:32:12,413 --> 00:32:15,586
anything humanly possible to
evade capture.
513
00:32:16,482 --> 00:32:19,137
I was really concerned
that he was gonna hurt more of
514
00:32:19,137 --> 00:32:22,379
my team or if he's gonna hurt
somebody who just lives
515
00:32:22,379 --> 00:32:24,344
out there and minding
their own business.
516
00:32:25,275 --> 00:32:28,758
That was my biggest
horror about it.
517
00:32:28,758 --> 00:32:30,310
It was like,
who's gonna be next?
518
00:32:32,034 --> 00:32:35,275
In those initial days
after Booker was shot,
519
00:32:35,275 --> 00:32:40,034
we had either lost track
or the terrain was not capable
520
00:32:40,034 --> 00:32:41,344
of preserving a track.
521
00:32:43,172 --> 00:32:46,172
It was evident that we were
gonna have to try to do some
522
00:32:46,172 --> 00:32:47,758
things differently
at this point.
523
00:32:54,482 --> 00:33:00,241
Mr. Ashley is 34 years old,
5' 11", 180 pounds, black hair,
524
00:33:00,241 --> 00:33:02,344
green eyes,
and he's a black male.
525
00:33:03,103 --> 00:33:04,379
And... what's that?
526
00:33:04,379 --> 00:33:07,413
I can't go into too great
a detail in this investigation
527
00:33:07,413 --> 00:33:09,034
because
it's still ongoing.
528
00:33:09,034 --> 00:33:13,103
But, again, I'd like to commend
the officers and the civilians
529
00:33:13,103 --> 00:33:15,413
of this organization
for the commitment
530
00:33:16,172 --> 00:33:19,034
and the tenacity it took to
get to where we're at,
531
00:33:19,034 --> 00:33:20,551
and we're not done yet.
532
00:33:20,551 --> 00:33:24,931
This is very, very widely
broadcast into the media,
533
00:33:24,931 --> 00:33:30,724
and the community took a vested
interest in this and wanted not
534
00:33:30,724 --> 00:33:33,586
only safety and closure,
but wanted to support us.
535
00:33:34,551 --> 00:33:37,586
It is almost like the worst
game of telephone people have
536
00:33:37,586 --> 00:33:41,034
ever played--
you don't know what's correct.
537
00:33:41,034 --> 00:33:42,241
You're watching the news.
538
00:33:42,241 --> 00:33:45,724
You're getting phone calls from
sheriff's detectives,
539
00:33:45,724 --> 00:33:46,965
this and that.
540
00:33:46,965 --> 00:33:49,413
And they kind of had lost
the track for a little bit.
541
00:33:49,413 --> 00:33:50,965
Now we're scared.
542
00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:54,000
Is he coming to get us now?
543
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,206
Like, a lot of irrational
things go through your head.
544
00:33:58,206 --> 00:34:00,655
I heard that he had
shot and killed somebody.
545
00:34:01,689 --> 00:34:02,965
And I felt depressed.
546
00:34:02,965 --> 00:34:05,758
My first thought was like,
we could have stopped all this.
547
00:34:05,758 --> 00:34:09,206
Maybe we could have possibly
held him down.
548
00:34:10,620 --> 00:34:12,655
But I felt like God gave us
a reason to live.
549
00:34:12,655 --> 00:34:13,965
He let us live that day.
550
00:34:13,965 --> 00:34:17,724
And I would almost say it's
a miracle, because I still think
551
00:34:17,724 --> 00:34:19,275
till today, we should have
been dead.
552
00:34:24,689 --> 00:34:27,965
August is as hot as it gets in
Kern County.
553
00:34:29,896 --> 00:34:32,551
We had to be careful that
we didn't get heat exhaustion.
554
00:34:35,448 --> 00:34:38,137
Our personnel are getting
very little sleep,
555
00:34:38,137 --> 00:34:40,241
hiking miles per day,
556
00:34:41,482 --> 00:34:43,965
wearing body armor
and carrying equipment.
557
00:34:46,862 --> 00:34:50,965
Our tactical team members were
being very vigilant on
558
00:34:50,965 --> 00:34:53,103
the lookout for where could
somebody hide.
559
00:34:55,344 --> 00:34:57,448
Is he in a cave?
Is he in a mine shaft?
560
00:34:57,448 --> 00:35:00,448
What's gonna prevent him
from ambushing law enforcement?
561
00:35:01,620 --> 00:35:05,379
We had a lot to think about
from our safety standpoint,
562
00:35:05,379 --> 00:35:08,379
not just capturing
Benjamin Peter Ashley.
563
00:35:08,379 --> 00:35:10,965
But we're not going to come off
this till we have
564
00:35:10,965 --> 00:35:13,000
Benjamin Peter Ashley
in custody.
565
00:35:21,241 --> 00:35:22,689
August 15th,
566
00:35:23,655 --> 00:35:26,551
we get a call from
Brady's Mini Market in
567
00:35:26,551 --> 00:35:29,586
the community of Inyokern.
568
00:35:29,586 --> 00:35:33,586
This was approximately 20 miles
from where I was shot.
569
00:35:33,586 --> 00:35:36,793
The clerk explained that
the person that was on the news
570
00:35:36,793 --> 00:35:40,586
just walked in the store,
got some ice cream, a couple of
571
00:35:40,586 --> 00:35:42,896
candy bars, and then left.
572
00:35:50,275 --> 00:35:55,448
We dispatched patrol deputies
out to the Brady's Market in
573
00:35:55,448 --> 00:36:00,827
Inyokern, and they were
directed to a trail behind
574
00:36:00,827 --> 00:36:03,620
the market to where
the person was last seen.
575
00:36:07,379 --> 00:36:11,689
When the person saw them,
he hid behind a tall bush where
576
00:36:11,689 --> 00:36:14,689
they couldn't see him,
and they stopped
and they drew down on him.
577
00:36:14,689 --> 00:36:17,000
We know what we're up against.
578
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,862
This is somebody who is not
going to comply with us.
579
00:36:21,655 --> 00:36:23,275
They were challenging
him, saying,
580
00:36:23,275 --> 00:36:24,448
"Come out with your hands up,"
581
00:36:24,448 --> 00:36:26,793
and he came out
with a gun.
582
00:36:26,793 --> 00:36:28,689
He wasn't gonna go quietly.
583
00:36:41,275 --> 00:36:45,172
The patrol officers pulled up
and confronted Benjamin Ashley.
584
00:36:49,068 --> 00:36:52,137
They gave the orders to come
out with your hands up.
585
00:36:54,827 --> 00:36:56,137
He came out with a gun.
586
00:36:56,137 --> 00:36:58,689
And at that point,
they had their weapons drawn.
587
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,551
He was given every opportunity
to turn himself in
588
00:37:04,551 --> 00:37:06,137
and chose not to.
589
00:37:08,344 --> 00:37:10,758
That's when an officer-involved
shooting occurred.
590
00:37:10,758 --> 00:37:13,275
Benjamin Peter Ashley
was ultimately
591
00:37:13,275 --> 00:37:15,103
shot and killed by
our deputies.
592
00:37:18,379 --> 00:37:21,275
I never feel joy
for a death.
593
00:37:23,827 --> 00:37:27,103
You don't know what was going
through Benjamin Peter Ashley's
594
00:37:27,103 --> 00:37:29,551
mind, but at the end of
the day, none of that matters
595
00:37:29,551 --> 00:37:31,517
when it comes time to protect
your community.
596
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:38,413
Why kidnap three young men that
have nothing to do with you?
597
00:37:38,413 --> 00:37:42,000
Why kill a person in
their own home?
598
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,206
I think that he wanted to stay
incognito and just do what
599
00:37:46,206 --> 00:37:49,034
he's wanting to do without
any resistance.
600
00:37:49,034 --> 00:37:52,689
He was worried they would call
for the Sheriff's Department
601
00:37:52,689 --> 00:37:54,448
and then people would be
looking for him.
602
00:37:54,448 --> 00:37:55,931
He obviously didn't want that.
603
00:37:58,758 --> 00:38:02,000
Seems to me like this was like
six weeks of a manhunt,
604
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,448
but it was 18 days.
605
00:38:05,241 --> 00:38:08,310
It was a 24-hour-a-day
operation for 18 days.
606
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:11,379
That's nothing that
we had experienced.
607
00:38:11,379 --> 00:38:13,000
And the support
that we received
608
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,689
from our leadership,
609
00:38:15,689 --> 00:38:17,862
as well as the community,
it couldn't have been
610
00:38:17,862 --> 00:38:20,482
accomplished without
that support.
611
00:38:20,482 --> 00:38:22,344
I needed to know that
he wasn't a threat anymore.
612
00:38:22,344 --> 00:38:26,413
So I drove out there,
and it was definitely him.
613
00:38:26,413 --> 00:38:29,827
That was a relief for me,
kind of ending to this
614
00:38:29,827 --> 00:38:31,034
whole nightmare.
615
00:38:31,827 --> 00:38:33,620
The hunt is over.
We're done.
616
00:38:38,137 --> 00:38:42,172
I get a call from my brother.
He says, "They killed him."
617
00:38:42,172 --> 00:38:44,689
I'm like, "What?"
"No, they got him."
618
00:38:46,793 --> 00:38:49,241
At the time, I was,
you know, like,
619
00:38:49,241 --> 00:38:51,000
hell yeah.
620
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,103
I was happy, but now that I
grew older, man, I kind of wish
621
00:38:54,103 --> 00:38:56,172
that guy could get some help,
figure out what the hell was
622
00:38:56,172 --> 00:38:57,379
wrong with that guy.
623
00:38:59,689 --> 00:39:02,655
If I had to piece together what
I thought happened,
624
00:39:05,896 --> 00:39:08,172
I think Dave was done for
the day working,
625
00:39:08,172 --> 00:39:12,689
mining, and came back to
the house, opened a window
626
00:39:12,689 --> 00:39:15,689
or two-- and that guy
had been watching,
627
00:39:17,655 --> 00:39:19,000
and snuck inside,
628
00:39:20,965 --> 00:39:23,103
and took that opportunity to
shoot him...
629
00:39:25,689 --> 00:39:29,206
That's maybe what happened.
630
00:39:29,206 --> 00:39:33,758
Unfortunately, Dave being such
a loving, sharing, caring kind
631
00:39:33,758 --> 00:39:37,758
of guy, this guy could have
come up to him with any kind of
632
00:39:37,758 --> 00:39:40,034
story, and Dave would have
helped him.
633
00:39:40,034 --> 00:39:42,827
I've been out in
the wilderness, been camping,
634
00:39:42,827 --> 00:39:47,034
been shooting, but never went
back to Caliente, California.
635
00:39:47,034 --> 00:39:48,275
Never been back.
636
00:39:52,448 --> 00:39:54,379
It changed my life forever.
637
00:39:55,344 --> 00:39:59,000
12 surgeries later,
and a couple of years of
638
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,275
physical therapy
and everything,
639
00:40:00,275 --> 00:40:02,689
and getting things back to
right, and I'm...
640
00:40:03,413 --> 00:40:05,655
back with my family
and not with
641
00:40:05,655 --> 00:40:07,448
the Sheriff's Department
anymore.
642
00:40:09,931 --> 00:40:13,586
My dad was one of
my husband's best friends.
643
00:40:13,586 --> 00:40:16,793
And that was hard because it was
like my husband losing his dad,
644
00:40:16,793 --> 00:40:18,931
you know, just because my dad
always treated my husband
645
00:40:18,931 --> 00:40:20,620
just like his son.
646
00:40:20,620 --> 00:40:22,965
It was never, well, that's
my daughter's husband.
647
00:40:22,965 --> 00:40:24,551
It was, that's his son.
648
00:40:27,758 --> 00:40:31,000
Without David,
it's like there's a void,
649
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,206
a missing piece.
650
00:40:34,310 --> 00:40:35,758
I miss him a lot.
651
00:40:35,758 --> 00:40:39,344
There's so many different
things that we would do on
652
00:40:39,344 --> 00:40:40,965
a regular basis
out there between
653
00:40:40,965 --> 00:40:44,172
mining, and hunting,
and shooting, and fishing.
654
00:40:44,172 --> 00:40:47,965
That kind of stuff would have
been done monthly.
655
00:40:47,965 --> 00:40:51,413
We'd be out there all the time,
and now that hasn't happened.
656
00:40:56,034 --> 00:40:58,310
Life can
change in a heartbeat.
657
00:40:58,310 --> 00:41:00,206
After that instance,
you're like, when's the last
658
00:41:00,206 --> 00:41:01,862
time you're gonna tell
someone you love them?
659
00:41:01,862 --> 00:41:03,586
When, you know?
660
00:41:04,793 --> 00:41:07,620
So never forget to say
I love you.
661
00:41:07,620 --> 00:41:12,379
Just cherish life, you know?
Cherish the things that matter.
662
00:41:12,379 --> 00:41:14,965
Don't worry about
the things that don't.
663
00:41:14,965 --> 00:41:17,551
Hold on to the ones that
you love a little tighter,
664
00:41:17,551 --> 00:41:21,551
because life is definitely
precious, and it's a gift.
53581
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