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["Happy Together" playing]
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- ♪ Imagine me and you
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♪ I do, I think
about you day and night ♪
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♪ It's only right to think
about the girl you love ♪
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♪ And hold her tight,
so happy together ♪
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♪ If I should call you up,
invest a dime ♪
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♪ And you say
you belong to me ♪
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♪ And ease my mind
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♪ Imagine how the world
could be ♪
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♪ So very fine,
so happy together ♪
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- ♪ Me and you
and you and me ♪
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♪ No matter
how they toss the dice ♪
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♪ It had to be
the only one for me is you ♪
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♪ And you for me,
so happy together ♪
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♪ So happy together
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♪ And how is the weather
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♪ So happy together
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♪ We're happy together
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♪ So happy together
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♪ Happy together
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♪ So happy together
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♪ So happy together
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- I made a list of everyone
I could think of
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that I photographed
in Laurel Canyon.
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A lot of people.
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I first came to LA in '63
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with a four-part folk group.
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We came over
to seek our fortunes,
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and played at the Troubadour
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the second night
we were in town.
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["How The West Was Won" playing]
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- ♪ I'll bid goodbye
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♪ To the whip and the line
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- ♪ Yeah
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- ♪ And drive no more
in the wintertime ♪
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- Got a manager
and a record company
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and all that very quickly.
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Within a week,
I went up to somebody's party
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at the Laurel Canyon.
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You could see
it was a very cool place.
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The main boulevard
is Laurel Canyon Boulevard,
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and it goes from Hollywood,
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straight up
into the Hollywood Hills,
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crests over the top
at Mulholland,
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and goes down into what
they call the Valley.
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Off of that main road
that curves around a bit,
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there are little arteries
that go off like Kirkwood
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and Lookout Mountain Avenue.
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Then you go up those avenues,
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and there's little capillaries
that go off,
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Weepah Way and Rosilla Place,
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and that's where I first moved
to Laurel Canyon.
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I had a little one-room studio.
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Coyotes at night.
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Very quiet except for owl.
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Sometimes in the afternoon,
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you hear a, like,
uh, a solo guitar,
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kind of echoing
from somewhere in the hillside,
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drifting through the Canyon.
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["Mr. Tambourine" playing]
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♪ Play a song for me
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- I moved to Laurel Canyon
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right after the success
of "Mr. Tambourine Man."
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- ♪ There ain't no place
I'm goin' to ♪
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- I'm up by the market,
and I run into this fella.
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He was a dentist, a young guy.
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And he says, "Are you looking
for a place to live?"
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And I said, "Yeah."
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I go up there,
and this house was at the end
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of a dirt road
at the top of Kirkwood.
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And it overlooked
the entire city.
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So you can imagine at night
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what that looked like,
beautiful.
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Rented it,
and start furnishing it.
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Now I had a house.
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At same time, David Crosby
moved over to Willow Glen.
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Roger lived across the Canyon.
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- It was serene,
it was beautiful.
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Winding, hilly, it was like
living in the country,
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but you're in a big city.
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- The only person who moved
there before we did
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might have been Zappa.
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It wasn't a scene yet.
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It was just a better place
to live,
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above the smog.
It was so magical.
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Literally, within four,
five minutes,
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you could be down on the
Sunset Strip into Hollywood.
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["You Showed Me" playing]
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- ♪ You showed me how to do
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♪ Exactly what to do
how I fell in love with you ♪
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♪ Oh, oh, oh, it's true,
Oh, oh, I love you ♪
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- Rock harmonies
were going folk, you see,
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and we were doing rock
and roll inspired folk music.
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- ♪ You showed me how to say
exactly what to say ♪
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- We did songs that were
entirely different
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from anything anybody
had tried before.
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- ♪ Oh, oh, oh, it's true
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- We wanted to stretch.
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We wanted to push back
the barriers.
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We wanted to be the innovators.
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- The Byrds--they were
a major influence
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on everybody
in Hollywood, really.
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Even though we had been
together for quite some time,
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we were initially trying
to be a clone of The Byrds.
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- I knew I could do the things
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that I saw The Byrds doing.
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Packin' the house every night,
all these people jumping up
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and carrying on.
So then I jumped on the wagon.
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I said, "I'm gonna do
this thing until I'm capable
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of doing my thing."
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["The Devil Went Down
to Georgia" playing]
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- ♪ I went to Georgia
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♪ I went to Florida,
I went to Missi ♪
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♪ Tripped in Missippi,
but now you... ♪
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- There was four of them,
and I made the fifth
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when I joined the group,
and I said,
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"I hear you're looking
for a rhythm guitarist.
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I'd give my right arm
to be in your group."
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Arthur said,
"No, you're gonna need it."
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- Bryn McLean lived
right down the street from me.
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We lived there
because mostly other musicians
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and artists lived there,
and also because it was cheap.
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We used to call it Oz.
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The people that came
to the clubs
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would just follow us
into our houses,
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and we'd continue playing
all night.
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- Once you got above 20
or 30 of us living up there,
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it was a kind of a community.
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We would go around
and visit each other
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quite a bit.
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- David Crosby
was quite near us,
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and gave us
some pretty good advice.
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"Johnny,
there's already one Byrds,
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so if you guys wanna make it,
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you're gonna have to come up
with your own sound."
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In elementary school,
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one of the kids had a guitar,
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and he allowed me to hold it.
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I started strumming it,
and the vibration
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just kind of tickled my soul.
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That was a love affair
that's lasted to this day.
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I started playing the guitar,
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and I heard Arthur sing.
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He was also a poet,
and so, we played together,
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and we had
so many different names
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before we became Love.
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We just loved music.
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We would pick up
little snippets of songs
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from here, or styles from there.
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Little Richard also
was in the area,
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and he would give me advice
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and hints and stuff like that.
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In 1964, I went to England
with Little Richard.
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["Lucille" playing]
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- ♪ Lucille
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♪ Why won't you do
your sisters will? ♪
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- We met these four guys
there, and they used to follow
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Richard around,
fawning and deferential,
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sycophants,
as far as I could see.
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Later on in Los Angeles,
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I was invited to see
The Beatles.
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I didn't believe it.
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These little guys that ran
around, chasing Richard,
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are the biggest thing
in the world.
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- The Beatles.
Wow.
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It was a huge experience
of life.
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We wanted every day to be
a huge experience of life.
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So, when the Beatles
played Ed Sullivan,
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all the folk groups
went electric.
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We traded our stand up bass
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into an electric bass.
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We electrified
our acoustic guitars.
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I electrified my banjo,
and we got a drummer.
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♪ why I waited around ♪
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♪ I wasn't running around
put me down ♪
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- That's the kind of music
we wanna make.
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What are we singing
about the Ox Driver for?
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We could be--
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we could be making joyful music.
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We were booked
into the Troubadour,
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doing our sound check,
and we plugged in
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our electric instruments,
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and Doug Weston
came running down
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from the upstairs.
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"No, no, what are you doing?
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"I don't have electric music
in this club.
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You know, this is a folk club."
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- The Troubadour,
just a few blocks
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from Hollywood Boulevard,
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is known as an avant-garde café.
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Sundays and Mondays
are Hoot nights, Hootenanny,
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that is,
and the entertainment features
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half a dozen or more performers,
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who specialize in folk music.
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- The folk community back then
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were snobbish
about electric music.
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They considered
it bubblegum, kid stuff.
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I was opening up for Hoyt Axton,
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playing folk songs
with a Beatle beat,
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and the only person
who liked it was Gene Clark.
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He came backstage
after my set, and said,
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"Hey, I get what you're doing.
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"I like The Beatles,
I like folk music.
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Let's write some songs,
and see what happens."
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- That's when I met Roger
and Gene.
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They were singing songs,
and I started singing
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harmony to them.
They liked that.
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- ♪ You showed me how to do
exactly what you do ♪
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♪ How I fell in love with you
Oh, oh, oh, it's true ♪
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- David knew this guy
who had a recording studio
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we could use, Jim Dickson,
and he became our manager,
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and we got Michael Clarke
and Chris Hillman
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to join the group.
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- There wasn't a lot
in common with each of us,
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but we had all come out
of folk music.
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We were not a garage rock
and roll band.
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We didn't have a blueprint.
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We didn't know
what we were doing.
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The Byrds needed something
to get us in the door.
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- Randomly,
Jim Dickson heard a couple
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of record producers
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mainly talking about Bob Dylan.
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"Wow, it's a shame, Bob
can't use that great new song
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you just wrote,
because Ramblin' Jack Elliott,
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he was singing out
of tune on it."
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["Mr. Tambourine Man" playing]
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- ♪ Hey, Mr. Tambourine man,
play a song for me ♪
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- Bob--he never overdubbed,
he just turned on the machine,
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and whatever happened happened.
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So, he decided not to use it,
wouldn't go back and fix it.
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Dixon got a copy of this demo,
and it was flawed,
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it couldn't be released.
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- Initially,
"Mr. Tambourine Man,"
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we didn't like it.
And then he sat us down,
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said, "What you guys need
to do is put some substance
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"and depth into your songs.
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"You wanna make a record
that you're gonna like
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in 40 years."
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["Mr. Tambourine Man" playing]
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- ♪ Hey! Mr. Tambourine man
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♪ Play a song for me
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♪ I'm not sleepy
and there ain't no place ♪
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♪ I'm going to
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- I remember Bob came
to Ciro's, and said,
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"Wow, man,
you can dance to it."
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He got on stage with us.
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- He loved what we did
with "Tambourine Man."
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We took it,
and we changed the groove.
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- The next day,
everybody in this town
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was talking about,
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"Hey, have you seen this band,
The Byrds, man?
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I heard Dylan showed up there
the other night."
253
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- People start coming in.
Word of mouth,
254
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word of mouth, word of mouth.
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All of a sudden,
people are lining up
256
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after about the second,
third week we were there.
257
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- It was
every young band's dream
258
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to catch fire,
259
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to become the subject
of conversation.
260
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It was completely exciting,
261
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and I was a kid,
and kids live on excitement.
262
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["Mr. Tambourine Man playing]
263
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- ♪ In the jingle jangle
morning ♪
264
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♪ I'll come following you
265
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- When I heard that music,
here's this electric version
266
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of this song,
267
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it really inspired me
268
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to go to California
to start a band.
269
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- This is the Buffalo
Springfield.
270
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Brennan Stone say
they'll be giant stars.
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It's up to you
to make them such.
272
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- My name is Neil Young.
273
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- Hi, Neil.
How do you do?
274
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- I'm lead guitar player.
How do you do?
275
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- All right.
- Uh, this is Richie Furay.
276
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- Hello, Richie.
Nice to see you.
277
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- Good ol' Richie
from Yellow Springs, Ohio.
278
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- Up in the back?
- Big Dewey Martin.
279
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- Hello, Dewey.
280
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- Bruce Palmer
from Toronto, Canada.
281
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Steve Stills from New Orleans.
282
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- Hello, Steve.
Nice to see you.
283
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How does three Canadians
and a couple of other fellas
284
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all fall in together?
How did that happen?
285
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- I'd--
- They were--
286
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- We knew each other
from New York,
287
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from folk music.
288
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We decided we were gonna
go out to California,
289
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Stephen and I first,
290
00:14:02,709 --> 00:14:04,058
and then Neil Young--
291
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he came down
to Los Angeles later on,
292
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but he couldn't find us.
293
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And so, he was actually leaving,
294
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going west on Sunset Boulevard.
295
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Stephen and I were going east.
296
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- And I saw him in a band
297
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going the other way on Sunset,
298
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and he stopped, and we stopped,
299
00:14:21,293 --> 00:14:23,425
and we all stopped,
and then we started.
300
00:14:23,469 --> 00:14:25,514
- About three
or four days after that,
301
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we found a drummer.
302
00:14:27,038 --> 00:14:29,605
It just all happened very fast.
303
00:14:29,649 --> 00:14:31,520
- It's a question
of, okay, fellas.
304
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Let's get real.
305
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Let's do it right, professional,
306
00:14:35,873 --> 00:14:39,528
and without losing
the magic of the music.
307
00:14:39,572 --> 00:14:41,704
- I ran
into the Buffalo Springfield
308
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before they had any work in LA.
309
00:14:43,793 --> 00:14:45,186
They had just gotten together,
310
00:14:45,230 --> 00:14:47,885
and I got them a job
at the Whisky.
311
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I'm a 23-year-old kid,
and I said,
312
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"Will you hire these guys,
and they're a great band.
313
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Trust me."
314
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["Mr. Soul" playing]
315
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- ♪ Oh, hello, Mr. Soul
316
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♪ I dropped by
to pick up a reason ♪
317
00:15:06,642 --> 00:15:09,602
♪ For the thought
that I caught that my head ♪
318
00:15:09,645 --> 00:15:12,735
♪ Is the event of the season
319
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♪ Why in crowds
just a trace of my face ♪
320
00:15:17,262 --> 00:15:20,047
♪ Could seem so pleasing
321
00:15:21,309 --> 00:15:23,094
♪ I'll cop out to the change
322
00:15:23,137 --> 00:15:24,878
♪ But a stranger
is putting the tease on ♪
323
00:15:24,922 --> 00:15:27,881
- We were playing
in the Whisky a Go Go.
324
00:15:27,925 --> 00:15:29,839
We ended up being
on a double bill
325
00:15:29,883 --> 00:15:32,190
with The Doors and with Love.
326
00:15:32,233 --> 00:15:35,236
- ♪ I was down on a frown
when the messenger ♪
327
00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,108
♪ Brought me a letter
- ♪ Brought me a letter
328
00:15:37,151 --> 00:15:39,675
- At the time, it seemed
like such a big place.
329
00:15:39,719 --> 00:15:42,243
- ♪ I was raised
by the praise of a fan ♪
330
00:15:42,287 --> 00:15:44,593
♪ Who said I upset her
- ♪ Who said I upset her
331
00:15:44,637 --> 00:15:45,812
- The Beach Boys were happening,
332
00:15:45,855 --> 00:15:47,466
The Turtles were happening.
333
00:15:47,509 --> 00:15:50,425
When they recorded
"Happy Together" was the time
334
00:15:50,469 --> 00:15:51,818
I lived with Mark Volman
335
00:15:51,861 --> 00:15:54,342
up on Lookout Mountain.
336
00:15:54,386 --> 00:15:56,997
- ♪ She said, "You're strange,
but don't change." ♪
337
00:15:57,041 --> 00:15:59,565
- You didn't move there
because you were wealthy.
338
00:15:59,608 --> 00:16:01,697
You moved there
because it was right
339
00:16:01,741 --> 00:16:03,308
in the middle of town,
340
00:16:03,351 --> 00:16:05,701
but was really cheap to live.
341
00:16:05,745 --> 00:16:07,965
Richie stayed there
about a year,
342
00:16:08,008 --> 00:16:10,532
then moved down the street.
343
00:16:10,576 --> 00:16:12,447
- Laurel Canyon
was a place people
344
00:16:12,491 --> 00:16:13,883
were attracted to.
345
00:16:13,927 --> 00:16:15,363
It was like a magnet.
346
00:16:15,407 --> 00:16:18,584
Neil Young,
when he lived up Kirkwood,
347
00:16:18,627 --> 00:16:21,021
we were creative people.
We were young.
348
00:16:21,065 --> 00:16:23,981
We were ambitious.
We loved the music.
349
00:16:26,157 --> 00:16:28,550
- Okay. We're rolling.
Take four.
350
00:16:28,594 --> 00:16:30,726
- We weren't required
to make one song
351
00:16:30,770 --> 00:16:32,728
sound like another song.
352
00:16:33,860 --> 00:16:35,601
We did have our freedom.
353
00:16:35,644 --> 00:16:36,732
There was folk music.
354
00:16:36,776 --> 00:16:38,125
There was country music.
355
00:16:38,169 --> 00:16:40,649
Our style of rockabilly music.
356
00:16:40,693 --> 00:16:43,130
Stephen will do a Spanish song,
357
00:16:43,174 --> 00:16:45,132
a bluegrass type song.
358
00:16:45,176 --> 00:16:47,439
The spectrum that we covered
359
00:16:47,482 --> 00:16:48,744
was incredible.
360
00:16:48,788 --> 00:16:50,311
["Broken Arrow" playing]
361
00:16:50,355 --> 00:16:54,141
- ♪ Come to see her
in the river ♪
362
00:16:54,185 --> 00:16:58,493
♪ She'll be there
to wave to you ♪
363
00:16:58,537 --> 00:17:00,234
♪ In the hope
that you'll forgive her ♪
364
00:17:00,278 --> 00:17:02,845
- We were just three
individual songwriters,
365
00:17:02,889 --> 00:17:05,326
Neil Young,
Stephen Stills, and myself,
366
00:17:05,370 --> 00:17:07,502
writing from different
perspectives,
367
00:17:07,546 --> 00:17:09,026
bringing that together,
368
00:17:09,069 --> 00:17:10,375
and that's what collectively
369
00:17:10,418 --> 00:17:12,725
made us Buffalo Springfield.
370
00:17:14,074 --> 00:17:18,644
- ♪ Find out that now
was the answer to answers ♪
371
00:17:18,687 --> 00:17:22,952
♪ That you gave later
372
00:17:22,996 --> 00:17:27,435
♪ She did the things
that we both did before ♪
373
00:17:27,479 --> 00:17:30,047
♪ Now and who forgave her?
374
00:17:30,090 --> 00:17:31,526
- I had
a really good relationship
375
00:17:31,570 --> 00:17:33,572
with the Buffalo Springfield.
376
00:17:33,615 --> 00:17:35,269
I always had fun with them.
377
00:17:37,184 --> 00:17:40,187
They were the house band
for a while at the Whisky.
378
00:17:40,231 --> 00:17:42,276
Packed every night.
379
00:17:44,844 --> 00:17:48,717
I genuinely love the music.
380
00:17:49,979 --> 00:17:52,460
I got here in '66,
381
00:17:52,504 --> 00:17:55,333
just past the folky scene.
382
00:17:55,376 --> 00:17:57,596
At first,
I was considered a groupie,
383
00:17:57,639 --> 00:17:59,119
for sure.
384
00:17:59,163 --> 00:18:01,208
Then I got jobs
at the Troubadour
385
00:18:01,252 --> 00:18:03,515
and at the Whisky
doing the lights.
386
00:18:03,558 --> 00:18:05,125
I had to interact
387
00:18:05,169 --> 00:18:07,475
with the musicians in terms of,
388
00:18:07,519 --> 00:18:09,042
you know, setting the lights,
389
00:18:09,086 --> 00:18:11,479
the sound, and the shows,
390
00:18:11,523 --> 00:18:15,614
so I wasn't as much
of a groupie anymore, you know.
391
00:18:15,657 --> 00:18:18,834
Uh, I had a legitimate job.
392
00:18:18,878 --> 00:18:21,750
I just carried my camera
everywhere I went,
393
00:18:21,794 --> 00:18:23,274
enjoyed taking the pictures.
394
00:18:23,317 --> 00:18:26,538
I wanted to document
what I was seeing,
395
00:18:26,581 --> 00:18:28,192
not having any idea
396
00:18:28,235 --> 00:18:31,195
that this would be
interesting to somebody else.
397
00:18:33,675 --> 00:18:38,376
- ♪ She did the things
that we both did before now ♪
398
00:18:38,419 --> 00:18:43,250
♪ And who forgave her?
399
00:18:43,294 --> 00:18:44,991
- This is The Doors.
400
00:18:45,992 --> 00:18:48,255
Jim was a great guy.
I really liked him.
401
00:18:48,299 --> 00:18:50,127
He really had charisma
on the stage.
402
00:18:50,170 --> 00:18:51,954
["When The Music's Over"
playing]
403
00:18:51,998 --> 00:18:57,090
- ♪ Cancel my subscription
to the Resurrection ♪
404
00:19:00,528 --> 00:19:06,360
♪ Send my credentials
to the House of Detention ♪
405
00:19:09,276 --> 00:19:14,847
♪ I got some friends inside
406
00:19:18,242 --> 00:19:19,678
- The Doors were the house band
407
00:19:19,721 --> 00:19:20,809
at the Whisky a Go Go.
408
00:19:20,853 --> 00:19:22,289
We were the opening act.
409
00:19:22,333 --> 00:19:23,986
God, it was amazing.
410
00:19:24,030 --> 00:19:26,946
Then we played with Love,
Buffalo Springfield,
411
00:19:26,989 --> 00:19:28,991
The Turtles.
412
00:19:29,035 --> 00:19:31,559
- All of a sudden,
you had groups like The Doors
413
00:19:31,603 --> 00:19:33,213
that really brought
414
00:19:33,257 --> 00:19:37,478
a whole different mood
to everything.
415
00:19:43,180 --> 00:19:45,573
- There were no rules anymore.
416
00:19:45,617 --> 00:19:49,055
It was a good time
to be starting a band.
417
00:19:50,883 --> 00:19:52,928
- At the time,
The Doors were looked at
418
00:19:52,972 --> 00:19:56,715
by some people
as a gloom and doom band.
419
00:19:56,758 --> 00:19:58,238
["Light My Fire" playing]
420
00:19:58,282 --> 00:20:00,197
- ♪ Come on, baby,
light my fire ♪
421
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,069
- When in fact,
The Doors were about joy,
422
00:20:03,112 --> 00:20:05,724
light, Light My Fire,
423
00:20:05,767 --> 00:20:07,508
burning up in existence.
424
00:20:07,552 --> 00:20:09,380
-♪ Fire. Yeah
425
00:20:12,905 --> 00:20:15,908
- I think we're the band
you love to hate,
426
00:20:15,951 --> 00:20:18,127
universally despised.
427
00:20:18,171 --> 00:20:20,391
We're on a monstrous ego trip.
428
00:20:20,434 --> 00:20:23,045
They hate us
because we're so good.
429
00:20:23,089 --> 00:20:25,178
- You want people to like you?
430
00:20:25,222 --> 00:20:28,050
- Well, I'd like them to listen.
431
00:20:28,094 --> 00:20:31,750
I'd like them to, uh,
give the music a chance.
432
00:20:31,793 --> 00:20:34,927
- ♪ Try to set the night
on fire ♪
433
00:20:36,581 --> 00:20:38,365
- I mean, we knew
our stuff was good.
434
00:20:38,409 --> 00:20:40,933
As good as anybody's,
but that doesn't always
435
00:20:40,976 --> 00:20:43,457
translate into getting big.
436
00:20:43,501 --> 00:20:45,067
Who was gonna sign us?
437
00:20:46,417 --> 00:20:48,549
- The whole transition
from folk music
438
00:20:48,593 --> 00:20:51,291
to singer-songwriters
was working itself out,
439
00:20:51,335 --> 00:20:53,075
and there were not
that many artists
440
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,034
I wanted to record.
441
00:20:55,077 --> 00:20:57,036
I was looking
for a new direction,
442
00:20:57,079 --> 00:20:58,733
and I came out here.
443
00:20:58,777 --> 00:21:01,127
I would get a free magazine,
and I'd go through all
444
00:21:01,170 --> 00:21:04,609
the ads, and I came
to one that said Love.
445
00:21:04,652 --> 00:21:07,873
["Hey Joe" playing]
446
00:21:07,916 --> 00:21:09,788
- ♪ Hey, Joe
447
00:21:09,831 --> 00:21:12,573
♪ Where you going with all
that money in your hand now ♪
448
00:21:12,617 --> 00:21:14,401
- I was gripped by the music.
449
00:21:14,445 --> 00:21:16,185
- ♪ Well, I said, hey, Joe,
where are you goin'... ♪
450
00:21:16,229 --> 00:21:18,318
- I went backstage
and made them an offer,
451
00:21:18,362 --> 00:21:20,189
said, "We've never done
rock and roll.
452
00:21:20,233 --> 00:21:22,496
You strike me as a good
place to start."
453
00:21:22,540 --> 00:21:26,457
- ♪ She's been runnin' around
with some other man now ♪
454
00:21:26,500 --> 00:21:28,328
♪ Well, I said,
I'm goin' after my woman ♪
455
00:21:28,372 --> 00:21:30,330
- We had been offered
a contract by Capitol
456
00:21:30,374 --> 00:21:33,115
and Columbia,
and a couple of other labels,
457
00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:36,989
but they wouldn't allow us
to own the publishing.
458
00:21:37,032 --> 00:21:38,512
Little Richard had told me
459
00:21:38,556 --> 00:21:40,906
that's where most
of the money comes from,
460
00:21:40,949 --> 00:21:42,299
owning the copyrights
461
00:21:42,342 --> 00:21:44,170
and the publishing
for your songs,
462
00:21:44,213 --> 00:21:45,824
because if someone else
records them, you get paid,
463
00:21:45,867 --> 00:21:49,088
or if they're used
in a commercial, you get paid.
464
00:21:49,131 --> 00:21:51,569
Elektra allowed us
to own the publishing.
465
00:21:51,612 --> 00:21:56,356
That's why we signed up with a
relatively unknown folk label.
466
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,011
- If you can come up with
a distinctive sound in music,
467
00:21:59,054 --> 00:22:01,100
your chances of getting
a hit are a lot better.
468
00:22:01,143 --> 00:22:03,624
This certainly has what's
called a distinctive sound,
469
00:22:03,668 --> 00:22:05,147
the sound
of "My Little Red Book."
470
00:22:05,191 --> 00:22:06,845
Again, here's Love.
471
00:22:06,888 --> 00:22:09,500
["My Little Red Book" playing]
472
00:22:09,543 --> 00:22:12,416
- ♪ I just got out
my little red book ♪
473
00:22:12,459 --> 00:22:17,029
♪ The minute that you
said goodbye ♪
474
00:22:17,072 --> 00:22:19,336
♪ I thumbed right through
my little red book ♪
475
00:22:19,379 --> 00:22:21,729
♪ I wasn't gonna sit and cry
476
00:22:21,773 --> 00:22:25,124
- " My Little Red Book"
was a national hit.
477
00:22:25,167 --> 00:22:27,692
What Arthur and the guys
did with that adaptation
478
00:22:27,735 --> 00:22:29,258
was genius.
479
00:22:29,302 --> 00:22:30,825
We all felt that it was only
a matter of time
480
00:22:30,869 --> 00:22:32,610
until Love conquered America.
481
00:22:32,653 --> 00:22:34,002
- ♪ And as I held them
482
00:22:34,046 --> 00:22:36,222
♪ All I did
was to talk about you ♪
483
00:22:36,265 --> 00:22:38,616
♪ Hear your name
and I'd start to cry ♪
484
00:22:38,659 --> 00:22:42,315
♪ There's just no
getting over you ♪
485
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,797
- We had an issue playing
other places
486
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,016
that heard us professionally.
487
00:22:48,060 --> 00:22:50,236
We couldn't play
in the South and all,
488
00:22:50,279 --> 00:22:51,629
because when they found out
489
00:22:51,672 --> 00:22:53,848
the racial makeup of the group,
490
00:22:53,892 --> 00:22:55,459
they would cancel bookings,
491
00:22:55,502 --> 00:23:00,115
or sometimes we wouldn't even
get them at all.
492
00:23:00,159 --> 00:23:02,640
So we were not happy
with Elektra Records
493
00:23:02,683 --> 00:23:03,989
because of the first album.
494
00:23:04,032 --> 00:23:05,860
We thought it was done cheaply,
495
00:23:05,904 --> 00:23:07,775
and MCA came to us
496
00:23:07,819 --> 00:23:10,691
and offered us
a really tremendous deal.
497
00:23:10,735 --> 00:23:13,520
But we knew Elektra
wasn't gonna let us go.
498
00:23:13,564 --> 00:23:16,175
We were their ticket
into the game.
499
00:23:16,218 --> 00:23:18,307
We were the first,
and at that point,
500
00:23:18,351 --> 00:23:20,919
the only rock group they had.
501
00:23:20,962 --> 00:23:23,443
Our songs were moving up
the charts,
502
00:23:23,487 --> 00:23:25,967
and they were doing well
with us.
503
00:23:26,011 --> 00:23:28,405
We knew that was a non-starter,
504
00:23:28,448 --> 00:23:32,278
so Arthur and I came up
with the brilliant idea.
505
00:23:32,321 --> 00:23:35,237
If we hooked them up
with The Doors,
506
00:23:35,281 --> 00:23:37,239
they would let us go.
507
00:23:37,283 --> 00:23:39,546
Because The Doors had a good
following at the Whisky,
508
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:43,289
and the young girls
just love Jim.
509
00:23:43,332 --> 00:23:46,988
But it was problematic,
because Jim would get drunk.
510
00:23:47,032 --> 00:23:49,077
Playing on stage was kind of
511
00:23:49,121 --> 00:23:50,644
a problem with the venues,
512
00:23:50,688 --> 00:23:52,341
and members of his group,
513
00:23:52,385 --> 00:23:54,561
but we asked Jack to come down.
514
00:23:54,605 --> 00:23:56,084
["Lucille" playing]
515
00:23:56,128 --> 00:23:58,347
- ♪ Lucille
516
00:23:58,391 --> 00:24:02,482
♪ Won't you do
your sister's will ♪
517
00:24:02,526 --> 00:24:04,223
- Jim, true to form, was drunk,
518
00:24:04,266 --> 00:24:06,530
and stumbling around the stage.
519
00:24:06,573 --> 00:24:07,748
- I didn't get it.
520
00:24:07,792 --> 00:24:09,141
I was tired.
521
00:24:09,184 --> 00:24:10,969
It was 2:00 in the morning.
522
00:24:11,012 --> 00:24:13,275
- Jack said, "Hell, no."
- ♪ You ran off and married
523
00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:16,278
♪ But I love you still
- Months go by,
524
00:24:16,322 --> 00:24:18,324
and we asked them,
"Why don't you come
525
00:24:18,367 --> 00:24:20,500
one more time and see
The Doors?"
526
00:24:20,544 --> 00:24:24,635
Jack said, "I'm not going,"
but we talked him into it.
527
00:24:24,678 --> 00:24:27,638
["Break On Through" playing]
528
00:24:29,509 --> 00:24:31,816
- ♪ You know the day destroys
the night ♪
529
00:24:31,859 --> 00:24:34,601
♪ Night divides the day
530
00:24:34,645 --> 00:24:35,820
♪ Tried to run
531
00:24:35,863 --> 00:24:37,299
♪ Tried to hide
532
00:24:37,343 --> 00:24:39,693
♪ Break on through
to the other side ♪
533
00:24:39,737 --> 00:24:42,261
♪ Break on through
to the other side ♪
534
00:24:42,304 --> 00:24:45,960
♪ Break on through
to the other side yeah ♪
535
00:24:46,004 --> 00:24:48,049
- Jim was on his best behavior.
536
00:24:48,093 --> 00:24:50,008
Sober and in his element.
537
00:24:50,051 --> 00:24:53,054
- ♪ I found an island
in your arms ♪
538
00:24:53,098 --> 00:24:55,448
♪ Country in your eyes
539
00:24:55,492 --> 00:24:56,928
♪ Arms that chained us
540
00:24:56,971 --> 00:24:58,407
♪ Eyes that lied
541
00:24:58,451 --> 00:25:00,714
♪ Break on through
to the other side ♪
542
00:25:00,758 --> 00:25:03,717
♪ Break on through
to the other side ♪
543
00:25:03,761 --> 00:25:05,850
♪ Break on through, oh
544
00:25:05,893 --> 00:25:09,288
♪ Oh, yeah
- They sounded so much better.
545
00:25:09,331 --> 00:25:12,813
And Jack saw what we saw.
546
00:25:12,857 --> 00:25:14,511
- It was so magical.
547
00:25:14,554 --> 00:25:17,078
Morrison was like a comet
548
00:25:17,122 --> 00:25:18,645
streaking across the sky.
549
00:25:18,689 --> 00:25:21,387
He was incandescent and burning.
550
00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:23,476
-♪ Deep and wide
551
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,522
- I thought they were gonna
be the most significant
552
00:25:25,565 --> 00:25:28,394
artist we have had
up until that time.
553
00:25:28,437 --> 00:25:29,917
- ♪ Break on through
554
00:25:29,961 --> 00:25:31,223
♪ Break on through
555
00:25:31,266 --> 00:25:32,746
♪ Break on through
556
00:25:32,790 --> 00:25:34,095
♪ Break on through
557
00:25:34,139 --> 00:25:35,793
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
558
00:25:35,836 --> 00:25:38,665
- That same night,
they signed The Doors.
559
00:25:38,709 --> 00:25:40,580
We thought, "Great.
Now it's cool.
560
00:25:40,624 --> 00:25:43,888
They gonna let us go."
And they said, "Hell, no.
561
00:25:43,931 --> 00:25:45,846
You guys aren't going."
562
00:25:45,890 --> 00:25:47,544
- All of a sudden, man,
563
00:25:47,587 --> 00:25:52,505
they're pushing The Doors
like crazy, you know.
564
00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:57,075
- All of the resources
that had been allocated to us
565
00:25:57,118 --> 00:26:00,078
were moved to The Doors.
566
00:26:00,121 --> 00:26:03,255
Publicity and radio,
567
00:26:03,298 --> 00:26:04,517
shots in magazines,
568
00:26:04,561 --> 00:26:06,388
and "The Ed Sullivan Show."
569
00:26:06,432 --> 00:26:08,739
- ♪ Break on through
to the other side ♪
570
00:26:08,782 --> 00:26:11,480
♪ Break on through
to the other side ♪
571
00:26:11,524 --> 00:26:14,353
- We basically shot
ourselves in the ass,
572
00:26:14,396 --> 00:26:15,702
by doing that.
573
00:26:15,746 --> 00:26:18,575
We were put on the back burner.
574
00:26:18,618 --> 00:26:20,925
- Jack had this idea to do
a billboard
575
00:26:20,968 --> 00:26:23,492
for The Doors' first album.
576
00:26:23,536 --> 00:26:27,235
Nobody had ever had one
before for a record.
577
00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:29,760
They let us climb up
on top of it.
578
00:26:31,152 --> 00:26:32,589
And it was pretty cool.
579
00:26:33,328 --> 00:26:34,895
- I had realized
580
00:26:34,939 --> 00:26:37,376
my Southern California dream
at that point.
581
00:26:37,419 --> 00:26:39,465
We could pay the rent.
582
00:26:39,508 --> 00:26:43,077
- John and I got a place up
on Lookout,
583
00:26:43,121 --> 00:26:45,558
nice view of the whole Canyon.
584
00:26:47,778 --> 00:26:50,824
And Jim got a place right
next to us.
585
00:26:50,868 --> 00:26:53,392
- That was, for Jim,
the perfect setting
586
00:26:53,435 --> 00:26:55,263
to do his music.
587
00:26:55,307 --> 00:26:57,396
He was, at heart, a poet,
588
00:26:57,439 --> 00:27:00,138
but he set his poetry to music.
589
00:27:01,661 --> 00:27:03,445
- One night up in Laurel Canyon,
590
00:27:03,489 --> 00:27:06,448
Jim was in one of his moods
where he was just
591
00:27:06,492 --> 00:27:09,016
down in the doldrums.
592
00:27:09,060 --> 00:27:10,757
- I said, "Hey, let's go up
593
00:27:10,801 --> 00:27:13,542
"to the top of Laurel Canyon
and watch the sun come up.
594
00:27:13,586 --> 00:27:16,154
Maybe that'll give you
a different mood."
595
00:27:16,197 --> 00:27:17,634
And it worked.
596
00:27:17,677 --> 00:27:21,115
He realized that people
are strange.
597
00:27:21,159 --> 00:27:23,552
- ♪ When you're strange
598
00:27:23,596 --> 00:27:27,165
♪ Faces come out of the rain
599
00:27:27,208 --> 00:27:29,558
♪ When you're strange
600
00:27:29,602 --> 00:27:32,649
♪ No one remembers your name
601
00:27:32,692 --> 00:27:34,520
♪ When you're strange
602
00:27:34,563 --> 00:27:37,697
- Jim always says, write
about something universal,
603
00:27:37,741 --> 00:27:41,701
that 40 years from now
might still mean something.
604
00:27:41,745 --> 00:27:45,662
- ♪ People are strange
when you're a stranger ♪
605
00:27:45,705 --> 00:27:49,709
♪ Faces look ugly
when you're alone ♪
606
00:27:49,753 --> 00:27:52,973
- The Doors had just broken
before we left Phoenix.
607
00:27:53,017 --> 00:27:54,932
Jim Morrison was the most
outrageous character
608
00:27:54,975 --> 00:27:57,891
at the time,
but he was still a hero.
609
00:27:57,935 --> 00:27:59,327
Rock needs a villain.
610
00:28:02,766 --> 00:28:06,595
- Alice Cooper, we saw horror
and comedy in rock
611
00:28:06,639 --> 00:28:08,206
all in bed together.
612
00:28:08,249 --> 00:28:09,686
We were theatrical.
613
00:28:09,729 --> 00:28:11,209
I played the character
Alice Cooper.
614
00:28:11,252 --> 00:28:12,863
This villain born.
615
00:28:12,906 --> 00:28:15,604
We had become
the biggest band in Phoenix,
616
00:28:15,648 --> 00:28:18,042
quit college, and moved
to Los Angeles,
617
00:28:18,085 --> 00:28:20,740
not realizing
that every single best band
618
00:28:20,784 --> 00:28:23,003
in every single city
was there in LA.
619
00:28:23,047 --> 00:28:24,831
It was pretty competitive.
620
00:28:24,875 --> 00:28:26,703
We had been turned down
by every label.
621
00:28:26,746 --> 00:28:28,705
They wanted
the next Buffalo Springfield.
622
00:28:28,748 --> 00:28:30,750
They didn't wanna
any freaks like us.
623
00:28:30,794 --> 00:28:34,449
The whole band was like
a walking nightmare.
624
00:28:34,493 --> 00:28:36,060
There's real blood on the stage.
625
00:28:36,103 --> 00:28:37,409
["Nobody Likes Me" playing]
626
00:28:37,452 --> 00:28:40,064
- ♪ Nobody likes me
627
00:28:40,107 --> 00:28:43,763
♪ It's all my fault
628
00:28:43,807 --> 00:28:46,200
- This one night,
the music we played
629
00:28:46,244 --> 00:28:47,854
was just white noise.
630
00:28:47,898 --> 00:28:49,726
- The audience
could not take it.
631
00:28:49,769 --> 00:28:52,380
Within four minutes,
we had cleared the place.
632
00:28:52,424 --> 00:28:54,469
Only one person left
standing there,
633
00:28:54,513 --> 00:28:56,080
and it was Frank Zappa.
634
00:28:56,123 --> 00:28:59,736
Frank looked at us.
He said, "What was that?"
635
00:28:59,779 --> 00:29:01,868
- People had
a very violent response to it.
636
00:29:01,912 --> 00:29:03,478
Invariably, when they
would play,
637
00:29:03,522 --> 00:29:04,653
people would leave the room,
638
00:29:04,697 --> 00:29:06,394
and I knew they had something.
639
00:29:06,438 --> 00:29:09,006
- But Frank Zappa was just
starting his record label,
640
00:29:09,049 --> 00:29:10,572
Bizarre Records.
641
00:29:10,616 --> 00:29:13,053
And he wanted some new look,
some new sound.
642
00:29:13,097 --> 00:29:14,794
So, Frank says, "Okay.
643
00:29:14,838 --> 00:29:16,230
"Why don't you guys come over
to my house at 7:00,
644
00:29:16,274 --> 00:29:18,058
and I'll listen to you?"
645
00:29:18,102 --> 00:29:20,713
We were so anxious
because everybody wanted to
646
00:29:20,757 --> 00:29:22,759
meet Frank Zappa.
In the music business,
647
00:29:22,802 --> 00:29:25,587
there was nobody more revered.
648
00:29:25,631 --> 00:29:28,025
Zappa was the maestro.
649
00:29:28,068 --> 00:29:31,376
So we go to Frank's house
in Laurel Canyon,
650
00:29:31,419 --> 00:29:34,640
the log cabin, at 7:00
in the morning.
651
00:29:34,683 --> 00:29:36,294
We just set up down
in the basement,
652
00:29:36,337 --> 00:29:39,601
and started playing.
653
00:29:39,645 --> 00:29:41,342
Our hair was down to our waist.
654
00:29:41,386 --> 00:29:43,475
We were in chrome pants.
655
00:29:44,781 --> 00:29:47,174
Frank comes down the stairs,
he's got his robe on
656
00:29:47,218 --> 00:29:48,567
and a coffee.
657
00:29:48,610 --> 00:29:50,438
He goes, "What are you doing?"
658
00:29:50,482 --> 00:29:51,918
I said, "Well, you said 7:00."
659
00:29:51,962 --> 00:29:54,573
And he said, "I meant 7:00
at night.
660
00:29:54,616 --> 00:29:56,401
Go ahead.
Go ahead."
661
00:29:56,444 --> 00:30:00,318
- ♪ Very rarely worry
utmost constantly ♪
662
00:30:00,361 --> 00:30:03,843
♪ Could you be receptive
663
00:30:03,887 --> 00:30:05,627
- Frank listened, and he goes,
664
00:30:05,671 --> 00:30:07,804
"The song doesn't go anywhere.
It just stops."
665
00:30:07,847 --> 00:30:09,631
And I went, "Well,
is that good or bad?"
666
00:30:09,675 --> 00:30:11,329
And he goes, "Oh, no, no.
I'm gonna sign you
667
00:30:11,372 --> 00:30:13,070
because I don't get it."
668
00:30:13,113 --> 00:30:15,681
- The record company
that I had was called Bizarre.
669
00:30:15,724 --> 00:30:19,119
So, I figured, well, here we go.
670
00:30:19,163 --> 00:30:22,209
- Frank produced
the first album for us.
671
00:30:22,253 --> 00:30:24,081
When I finally could afford
to buy a house,
672
00:30:24,124 --> 00:30:28,259
I bought a house right above
Frank's log cabin.
673
00:30:28,302 --> 00:30:29,956
It was a very odd place to be
674
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,611
because it was right next door
to Micky Dolenz
675
00:30:32,654 --> 00:30:34,831
from the Monkees.
676
00:30:34,874 --> 00:30:37,877
And the club house
was Frank's house.
677
00:30:37,921 --> 00:30:40,271
You might see two or three
of The Mothers of Invention,
678
00:30:40,314 --> 00:30:43,143
Frank's band,
the most underground group,
679
00:30:43,187 --> 00:30:46,233
sitting there talking
to Davy Jones and Micky Dolenz
680
00:30:46,277 --> 00:30:48,366
from The Monkees.
681
00:30:48,409 --> 00:30:50,107
And I was Alice Cooper.
682
00:30:50,150 --> 00:30:52,979
- Alice Cooper, that was
a different kind of music.
683
00:30:53,023 --> 00:30:55,199
But nonetheless,
he lived in Laurel Canyon.
684
00:30:55,242 --> 00:30:59,377
It wasn't all peace
and love hippies up there.
685
00:30:59,420 --> 00:31:01,031
- Everybody was a fraternity.
686
00:31:01,074 --> 00:31:03,337
You're The Mothers,
we're The Monkees, so what?
687
00:31:03,381 --> 00:31:05,252
["The Monkees" playing]
688
00:31:09,213 --> 00:31:11,650
- ♪ Hey, hey,
we're The Monkees ♪
689
00:31:11,693 --> 00:31:13,739
♪ You never know
where we'll be found ♪
690
00:31:13,782 --> 00:31:15,262
- And now, a remembrance.
691
00:31:15,306 --> 00:31:18,048
Peter Tork, best known
as the keyboardist
692
00:31:18,091 --> 00:31:22,574
and bassist for the 1960s hit
band The Monkees, has died.
693
00:31:22,617 --> 00:31:23,923
- Yeah. You know what?
694
00:31:23,967 --> 00:31:25,707
I should put a picture
of Peter Tork up
695
00:31:25,751 --> 00:31:29,450
on my Facebook
on The Monkees set,
696
00:31:29,494 --> 00:31:31,583
okay? Bye.
697
00:31:34,020 --> 00:31:38,285
In the '60s, we wanted
to learn, just awaken,
698
00:31:38,329 --> 00:31:40,287
just kind of awaken
your imagination
699
00:31:40,331 --> 00:31:41,941
and your thought.
700
00:31:41,985 --> 00:31:45,553
We all started reading
the Indian gurus,
701
00:31:45,597 --> 00:31:48,034
the book called
"Autobiography of a Yogi,"
702
00:31:48,078 --> 00:31:52,821
and that really opened up
my life, reading that book.
703
00:31:52,865 --> 00:31:54,998
We're all here to learn.
704
00:31:55,041 --> 00:31:56,042
We're all students,
705
00:31:56,086 --> 00:31:57,261
but you should think of yourself
706
00:31:57,304 --> 00:31:59,393
as the only student,
707
00:31:59,437 --> 00:32:01,874
and everybody else
is your teacher.
708
00:32:03,571 --> 00:32:05,312
When you die, you don't die.
709
00:32:05,356 --> 00:32:06,966
You just leave your body.
710
00:32:07,010 --> 00:32:09,316
And it's just like walking
into another room.
711
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,928
I bought a stack of them,
never given one
712
00:32:11,971 --> 00:32:14,626
to Peter Tork
on The Monkees set.
713
00:32:14,669 --> 00:32:16,062
I did a group shot
714
00:32:16,106 --> 00:32:17,759
of The Monkees sitting
on a couch,
715
00:32:17,803 --> 00:32:19,413
and he was reading
the Yogananda book.
716
00:32:19,457 --> 00:32:21,633
I felt so good about that.
717
00:32:22,634 --> 00:32:26,594
And today, he walked
into the other room.
718
00:32:26,638 --> 00:32:28,422
He left the mortal coil.
719
00:32:28,466 --> 00:32:30,555
He left.
He left us.
720
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,564
In about '65, when they were
auditioning for players
721
00:32:39,607 --> 00:32:41,087
of The Monkees, every musician
722
00:32:41,131 --> 00:32:43,829
went down there.
723
00:32:43,872 --> 00:32:46,788
And Stephen Stills
almost was one of The Monkees.
724
00:32:46,832 --> 00:32:48,703
He went to audition,
and they said,
725
00:32:48,747 --> 00:32:50,618
"Well, your tooth
doesn't really work."
726
00:32:50,662 --> 00:32:52,969
He had a snaggletooth.
727
00:32:53,012 --> 00:32:55,101
He said, "Well, let me
send my roommate in
728
00:32:55,145 --> 00:32:57,190
to see you guys."
729
00:32:58,844 --> 00:33:00,672
- And that was Peter Tork.
730
00:33:03,544 --> 00:33:05,807
-Why do you wanna be a Monkee?
731
00:33:05,851 --> 00:33:07,635
- Well, it's my natural
inheritance.
732
00:33:09,159 --> 00:33:11,030
- ♪ Hey, hey,
we're The Monkees ♪
733
00:33:11,074 --> 00:33:13,163
♪ And people say
we monkey around ♪
734
00:33:13,206 --> 00:33:14,816
- The Monkees, as a whole thing,
735
00:33:14,860 --> 00:33:16,166
was thought of as a package
736
00:33:16,209 --> 00:33:18,255
for actors who played characters
737
00:33:18,298 --> 00:33:20,257
with their own names.
738
00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:22,259
- ♪ We're just trying
to be friendly ♪
739
00:33:22,302 --> 00:33:25,001
- The music was not terribly
representative of the '60s.
740
00:33:25,044 --> 00:33:26,828
It certainly didn't break
any new ground.
741
00:33:26,872 --> 00:33:28,787
It was just good bubble gum
pop music.
742
00:33:28,830 --> 00:33:32,051
- ♪ And we've got something
to say ♪
743
00:33:32,095 --> 00:33:34,314
♪ Hey, hey,
we're The Monkees ♪
744
00:33:34,358 --> 00:33:37,361
♪ You never know
where we'll be found ♪
745
00:33:37,404 --> 00:33:40,146
♪ So you'd better get ready
746
00:33:40,190 --> 00:33:44,368
♪ We may be coming
to your town ♪
747
00:33:44,411 --> 00:33:46,848
- Now, for the people who
haven't caught your TV show,
748
00:33:46,892 --> 00:33:48,589
what kind of things
happen on it?
749
00:33:48,633 --> 00:33:49,982
- In a nutshell,
it's a cross between
750
00:33:50,026 --> 00:33:51,592
the Marx Brothers
and The Beatles.
751
00:33:51,636 --> 00:33:53,029
- Uh-hmm.
- And it's like a situation
752
00:33:53,072 --> 00:33:54,987
about four guys
in a rock and roll band
753
00:33:55,031 --> 00:33:57,033
that just get themselves
in all kinds of mix-ups.
754
00:33:57,076 --> 00:33:58,904
["Last Train to Clarksville"
playing]
755
00:33:58,947 --> 00:34:01,124
- ♪ Take the last train
to Clarksville ♪
756
00:34:01,167 --> 00:34:03,735
♪ And I'll meet you
at the station ♪
757
00:34:03,778 --> 00:34:05,693
♪ You can be there by 4:30
- I knew The Monkees
758
00:34:05,737 --> 00:34:07,391
from Laurel Canyon.
759
00:34:07,434 --> 00:34:11,221
I was coming down to the set
a lot to take pictures.
760
00:34:13,092 --> 00:34:15,573
It was such a silly show,
but it was fun.
761
00:34:15,616 --> 00:34:17,923
It was supposed to be
a rip-off of The Beatles.
762
00:34:17,966 --> 00:34:21,057
Four young guys, musicians,
living together.
763
00:34:22,406 --> 00:34:25,452
- "The Monkees" was about
an imaginary group
764
00:34:25,496 --> 00:34:27,541
who wanted to be The Beatles,
765
00:34:27,585 --> 00:34:29,717
and never made it.
766
00:34:29,761 --> 00:34:33,112
It spoke to all those kids
trying,
767
00:34:33,156 --> 00:34:35,767
practicing, and playing
in their garages,
768
00:34:35,810 --> 00:34:37,290
in their living rooms,
769
00:34:37,334 --> 00:34:39,466
in their basements.
It was in the air.
770
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:43,383
- ♪ And I don't know
if I'm ever coming home ♪
771
00:34:43,427 --> 00:34:46,299
- The record companies,
television, film companies,
772
00:34:46,343 --> 00:34:49,694
and they saw this new
generation coming along.
773
00:34:49,737 --> 00:34:52,479
There was a huge
publicity push for us
774
00:34:52,523 --> 00:34:55,743
and the Lauren Canyon scene,
shall we say.
775
00:34:55,787 --> 00:34:59,095
- ♪ And a bit of conversation
776
00:34:59,138 --> 00:35:01,401
♪ Oh, no, no, no
777
00:35:01,445 --> 00:35:04,230
♪ Oh, no, no, no
- The place I moved into
778
00:35:04,274 --> 00:35:06,058
looked like you're in the middle
779
00:35:06,102 --> 00:35:07,929
of the Rocky Mountains.
It was an old cabin
780
00:35:07,973 --> 00:35:09,627
a Disney animator had built,
and it looked like
781
00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:12,891
a Swiss chalet,
massive pine trees,
782
00:35:12,934 --> 00:35:14,414
rock gardens.
783
00:35:14,458 --> 00:35:17,025
It did turn out
to be a gathering place.
784
00:35:17,069 --> 00:35:19,593
We'd began to throw
these soirees
785
00:35:19,637 --> 00:35:22,770
along with
a ping pong tournament.
786
00:35:22,814 --> 00:35:26,383
- Up the street
were The Turtles,
787
00:35:26,426 --> 00:35:28,646
and Zappa was
a little further down.
788
00:35:28,689 --> 00:35:31,127
People were just everywhere,
789
00:35:31,170 --> 00:35:33,999
literally wandering
around the little streets,
790
00:35:34,042 --> 00:35:36,610
not even knocking on your door,
791
00:35:36,654 --> 00:35:38,046
just walking in, "How you doing?
792
00:35:38,090 --> 00:35:39,439
What do you got to eat?"
793
00:35:39,483 --> 00:35:42,050
"Stephen, oh,
good to see you."
794
00:35:42,094 --> 00:35:44,618
It was a very small community
of musicians
795
00:35:44,662 --> 00:35:46,664
and long-haired weirdoes.
796
00:35:46,707 --> 00:35:48,492
- It was a friendly Canyon.
797
00:35:48,535 --> 00:35:50,624
People were very open.
798
00:35:50,668 --> 00:35:53,149
I lived on Lookout Mountain,
799
00:35:53,192 --> 00:35:56,064
and then I moved
to Tork's house.
800
00:35:56,108 --> 00:35:58,458
Peter was like my best friend.
801
00:35:58,502 --> 00:36:00,808
I was always taking
pictures of Peter.
802
00:36:00,852 --> 00:36:03,507
I took more pictures of him
than anybody else.
803
00:36:03,550 --> 00:36:06,858
So good.
A mensch, as they say.
804
00:36:06,901 --> 00:36:08,947
- He was a really lovely guy,
805
00:36:08,990 --> 00:36:10,601
and I enjoyed being around him.
806
00:36:10,644 --> 00:36:12,820
Except Peter was a nudist.
807
00:36:12,864 --> 00:36:16,259
I had just got a really cool
love seat, and I come home,
808
00:36:16,302 --> 00:36:20,176
and there is butt-naked Peter,
sitting on my love seat.
809
00:36:20,219 --> 00:36:22,352
I wasn't pleased with that.
810
00:36:22,395 --> 00:36:24,136
- That's me playing the banjo.
And I'm gonna do some more
811
00:36:24,180 --> 00:36:26,399
of that.
I hope you're ready.
812
00:36:26,443 --> 00:36:29,185
- Peter--he had this great
house on the other side
813
00:36:29,228 --> 00:36:32,449
of Laurel Canyon,
on the Valley side.
814
00:36:32,492 --> 00:36:34,886
Swimming pool,
and a dressing room,
815
00:36:34,929 --> 00:36:36,279
great view.
816
00:36:36,322 --> 00:36:39,195
Harrison Ford built
his music room,
817
00:36:39,238 --> 00:36:40,544
and there were a lot of people,
818
00:36:40,587 --> 00:36:41,849
just came to hang out,
819
00:36:41,893 --> 00:36:43,460
smoke pot.
820
00:36:43,503 --> 00:36:46,289
The Beatles,
Buffalo Springfield.
821
00:36:46,332 --> 00:36:48,639
You know, it was fun,
822
00:36:48,682 --> 00:36:50,380
and no responsibilities.
823
00:36:50,423 --> 00:36:53,296
They were all playing
at the local clubs.
824
00:36:53,339 --> 00:36:55,472
And when I think about it now,
825
00:36:55,515 --> 00:36:59,650
we were so, you know,
in our little bubble.
826
00:36:59,693 --> 00:37:01,304
We were so apolitical.
827
00:37:01,347 --> 00:37:04,263
The group of people
that hung out in these clubs
828
00:37:04,307 --> 00:37:06,047
loved the music and everything,
829
00:37:06,091 --> 00:37:08,267
but there was far more
going on in the world,
830
00:37:08,311 --> 00:37:11,183
and it took a while for us
to evolve, you know,
831
00:37:11,227 --> 00:37:13,316
and get to that place
where we cared.
832
00:37:18,451 --> 00:37:22,238
- The commercial merchants
on Sunset Boulevard,
833
00:37:22,281 --> 00:37:25,284
they had decided that
the element of young people
834
00:37:25,328 --> 00:37:28,766
that was on the street
every night
835
00:37:28,809 --> 00:37:33,161
was not conducive
to commercial enterprise.
836
00:37:33,205 --> 00:37:35,076
- But just because we're not
going along with society,
837
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,643
like everybody else goes--
they want everybody
838
00:37:36,687 --> 00:37:38,297
to do the same thing.
All they want you to do
839
00:37:38,341 --> 00:37:39,907
is they want you to grow up,
get an education,
840
00:37:39,951 --> 00:37:41,387
raise children, and die.
841
00:37:41,431 --> 00:37:43,259
- I got it.
- There's been a lot of talk
842
00:37:43,302 --> 00:37:44,782
about the riots
that have been going on
843
00:37:44,825 --> 00:37:46,218
in the Sunset Strip.
844
00:37:46,262 --> 00:37:48,046
- They haven't really been
riots.
845
00:37:48,089 --> 00:37:49,917
And in actuality, since I--
since I was there,
846
00:37:49,961 --> 00:37:51,528
they'd been demonstrations.
847
00:37:51,571 --> 00:37:54,922
- Well, it's mostly kids
from the ages of 15 to 20.
848
00:37:54,966 --> 00:37:58,622
There's a 10:00 curfew
imposed on these young people.
849
00:37:58,665 --> 00:38:02,408
Under 18, it's a California law
that you're not able
850
00:38:02,452 --> 00:38:04,715
to go into a teenage night club.
851
00:38:04,758 --> 00:38:08,196
- There was a club
called Pandora's Box,
852
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:10,329
where Crescent Height,
Sunset Boulevard,
853
00:38:10,373 --> 00:38:12,810
and Laurel Canyon
all came together.
854
00:38:12,853 --> 00:38:16,292
The kids gathered there,
and Stephen was just observing
855
00:38:16,335 --> 00:38:20,339
what was going on one night,
coming home from the Whisky.
856
00:38:20,383 --> 00:38:23,734
- What happened was just
a bunch of kids got together
857
00:38:23,777 --> 00:38:26,650
on a street corner, and said,
858
00:38:26,693 --> 00:38:28,652
"We aren't moving."
859
00:38:28,695 --> 00:38:30,218
Then about three busloads
860
00:38:30,262 --> 00:38:33,570
of the Los Angeles Police
showed up.
861
00:38:42,622 --> 00:38:46,409
- And they say, "Jesus, America
is in great danger
862
00:38:46,452 --> 00:38:48,889
of turning politically
to the right."
863
00:38:48,933 --> 00:38:50,978
It's the fascist stories.
- Move out.
864
00:38:51,022 --> 00:38:52,502
- I get home, and I'd run,
and I'd pick up
865
00:38:52,545 --> 00:38:54,112
my acoustic guitar,
866
00:38:54,155 --> 00:38:55,809
and all of a sudden,
it turned into a song.
867
00:38:55,853 --> 00:38:58,377
- ♪ It's time we stop,
hey, what's that sound ♪
868
00:38:58,421 --> 00:39:01,511
♪ Everybody look
what's going down ♪
869
00:39:03,208 --> 00:39:04,905
- A lot of people
wanna apply the song
870
00:39:04,949 --> 00:39:06,385
to the Vietnam War.
871
00:39:06,429 --> 00:39:08,213
That's what makes
the song so special,
872
00:39:08,256 --> 00:39:11,651
how the audience interpret
it for themselves.
873
00:39:11,695 --> 00:39:14,567
- ♪ What a field-day
for the heat ♪
874
00:39:14,611 --> 00:39:17,178
- That war was an undercurrent
of our lives.
875
00:39:17,222 --> 00:39:19,398
We were right at the age
where we would be
876
00:39:19,442 --> 00:39:21,748
first in line to be shipped
over there,
877
00:39:21,792 --> 00:39:24,882
so we were all concerned
that they were gonna take us
878
00:39:24,925 --> 00:39:26,187
out of Oz, and send us
879
00:39:26,231 --> 00:39:29,626
into some godforsaken jungle.
880
00:39:29,669 --> 00:39:32,629
- ♪ It's time we stop,
hey, what's that sound ♪
881
00:39:32,672 --> 00:39:35,980
♪ Everybody look
what's going down ♪
882
00:39:37,242 --> 00:39:39,853
- People started, like,
tuning into the news
883
00:39:39,897 --> 00:39:43,030
and realizing
that Sunset Boulevard
884
00:39:43,074 --> 00:39:45,424
was not the end-all
and be all of the world.
885
00:39:45,468 --> 00:39:48,427
There were things
going on out there.
886
00:39:48,471 --> 00:39:50,734
- You see the flames coming
out of the buildings
887
00:39:50,777 --> 00:39:52,213
directly across the street.
888
00:39:52,257 --> 00:39:53,780
- What leads a person
to do this,
889
00:39:53,824 --> 00:39:56,653
bring about a situation
that might explode?
890
00:39:56,696 --> 00:39:59,395
Maybe we have something
to do with it.
891
00:39:59,438 --> 00:40:02,180
- ♪ You step out of line,
the man come ♪
892
00:40:02,223 --> 00:40:03,790
♪ And take you away
893
00:40:03,834 --> 00:40:06,706
- People started to come out
of their own egos.
894
00:40:06,750 --> 00:40:10,841
The songs changed
and became much more relevant.
895
00:40:10,884 --> 00:40:12,364
- ♪ Hey, what's that sound
896
00:40:12,408 --> 00:40:14,018
♪ Everybody look
what's going down ♪
897
00:40:14,061 --> 00:40:15,149
♪ It's time to stop now
898
00:40:15,193 --> 00:40:16,586
♪ What's that sound?
899
00:40:16,629 --> 00:40:17,848
- Protests,
900
00:40:17,891 --> 00:40:19,415
integration--
901
00:40:19,458 --> 00:40:22,722
it was like the collision
of these meteors
902
00:40:22,766 --> 00:40:25,203
all over the United States.
903
00:40:25,246 --> 00:40:30,077
There was a freedom
that exploded the music,
904
00:40:30,121 --> 00:40:31,862
the fashion.
905
00:40:31,905 --> 00:40:34,212
The '60s were a change
906
00:40:34,255 --> 00:40:37,433
in almost every facet
of our lives.
907
00:40:41,132 --> 00:40:44,222
- We had sort of a communal
type existence.
908
00:40:44,265 --> 00:40:47,094
We wanted a name
that would indicate
909
00:40:47,138 --> 00:40:49,749
that there were both men
and women in the group,
910
00:40:49,793 --> 00:40:51,272
because it was the first group
911
00:40:51,316 --> 00:40:53,884
that actually was
sexually integrated.
912
00:40:53,927 --> 00:40:57,017
- When we had formed
The Mamas & The Papas,
913
00:40:57,061 --> 00:40:58,497
I was with John Phillips.
914
00:40:58,541 --> 00:41:00,586
We'd been married
for about a year.
915
00:41:00,630 --> 00:41:03,589
- John has written
an epic tone poem
916
00:41:03,633 --> 00:41:04,895
of historical nature,
917
00:41:04,938 --> 00:41:06,331
describing our very
get together,
918
00:41:06,374 --> 00:41:08,899
and so we like
to sing it for you now.
919
00:41:08,942 --> 00:41:10,161
Cue the tape.
920
00:41:10,204 --> 00:41:13,469
["Creeque Alley" playing]
921
00:41:16,776 --> 00:41:20,127
- ♪ John and Mitchy
were getting kind of itchy ♪
922
00:41:20,171 --> 00:41:23,566
♪ Just to leave
the folk music behind ♪
923
00:41:23,609 --> 00:41:26,786
♪ Zal and Denny,
working for a penny ♪
924
00:41:26,830 --> 00:41:30,050
♪ Trying to get a fish
on the line ♪
925
00:41:30,094 --> 00:41:33,619
♪ In a coffee house
Sebastian sat ♪
926
00:41:33,663 --> 00:41:36,840
♪ And after every number
they'd pass the hat ♪
927
00:41:36,883 --> 00:41:41,366
♪ McGuinn and McGuire just
a-getting higher in LA ♪
928
00:41:41,409 --> 00:41:44,064
♪ You know where that's at
929
00:41:44,108 --> 00:41:45,979
♪ And no one's getting fat
930
00:41:46,023 --> 00:41:48,808
♪ Except Mama Cass
931
00:41:48,852 --> 00:41:51,507
- "And no one's getting fat
except Mama Cass."
932
00:41:51,550 --> 00:41:53,944
John came up with the lyric,
and I said,
933
00:41:53,987 --> 00:41:55,989
"Yeah, but what are
really gonna say there?"
934
00:41:56,033 --> 00:41:57,600
He says, "That's the lyric."
935
00:41:57,643 --> 00:42:02,648
And she laughs so hard.
She said, "I love that."
936
00:42:02,692 --> 00:42:05,259
- I think that we were offensive
937
00:42:05,303 --> 00:42:06,957
to the point
of being inoffensive.
938
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,350
There were things
about the group physically
939
00:42:09,394 --> 00:42:11,222
that startled people.
940
00:42:11,265 --> 00:42:12,745
The fact that these four people
941
00:42:12,789 --> 00:42:14,660
would come together
and look like that,
942
00:42:14,704 --> 00:42:17,924
and make that kind of music
live in concert.
943
00:42:17,968 --> 00:42:19,839
- ♪ And no one's getting fat
944
00:42:19,883 --> 00:42:22,363
♪ Except Mama Cass
945
00:42:22,407 --> 00:42:23,800
- The Mamas & The Papas sound
946
00:42:23,843 --> 00:42:26,237
was a combination of the blues,
947
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,370
rock and roll, jazz, folk.
948
00:42:29,414 --> 00:42:31,721
It was the first time
that those influences
949
00:42:31,764 --> 00:42:34,419
had been brought together
in pop music.
950
00:42:34,462 --> 00:42:39,250
- ♪ Like a California dreaming
is becoming a reality ♪
951
00:42:42,862 --> 00:42:46,649
♪ Becoming a reality
952
00:42:53,220 --> 00:42:55,179
- At that point, Laurel Canyon
953
00:42:55,222 --> 00:42:56,746
was very well-developed.
954
00:42:56,789 --> 00:42:58,486
There was a charm to it,
955
00:42:58,530 --> 00:43:01,881
very green, cute little houses.
956
00:43:01,925 --> 00:43:05,406
Most musicians really
were coming from New York.
957
00:43:05,450 --> 00:43:08,801
When we all heard
The Byrds had a hit,
958
00:43:08,845 --> 00:43:12,152
everything kind of shifted
from New York to California
959
00:43:12,196 --> 00:43:14,067
in the music business.
960
00:43:14,111 --> 00:43:15,721
You'd have a friend who'd say,
961
00:43:15,765 --> 00:43:17,375
"If you're looking
for a place, you ought to try
962
00:43:17,418 --> 00:43:20,073
some place up
in Laurel Canyon."
963
00:43:20,117 --> 00:43:24,077
That's how people
ended up there.
964
00:43:24,121 --> 00:43:28,299
John and I lived on
Lookout Mountain with Denny.
965
00:43:29,996 --> 00:43:31,607
I was pretty insulated
966
00:43:31,650 --> 00:43:34,871
with my relationship with John.
967
00:43:39,266 --> 00:43:41,355
- Michelle and I had an affair.
968
00:43:41,399 --> 00:43:44,184
That was just a pure
and simple mistake.
969
00:43:44,228 --> 00:43:46,622
- When this surfaced,
970
00:43:46,665 --> 00:43:49,712
it was very hard
for John to accept
971
00:43:49,755 --> 00:43:51,278
that his wife
and his best friend
972
00:43:51,322 --> 00:43:53,977
had had an affair.
973
00:43:54,020 --> 00:43:55,413
But to Cass,
974
00:43:55,456 --> 00:43:57,633
it was the greatest betrayal
of all,
975
00:43:57,676 --> 00:44:00,374
because she was very much
in love with Denny,
976
00:44:00,418 --> 00:44:02,812
and she had always hoped
that someday,
977
00:44:02,855 --> 00:44:06,076
she and Denny
would actually be together.
978
00:44:06,119 --> 00:44:09,383
It was very, very difficult
to overcome.
979
00:44:09,427 --> 00:44:13,344
But we decided the group
was gonna continue.
980
00:44:15,172 --> 00:44:17,740
So, John moved out with Denny,
981
00:44:17,783 --> 00:44:20,917
and I stayed at the house
on Lookout Mountain.
982
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,049
Now, while they were
living together,
983
00:44:23,093 --> 00:44:25,182
they were living
the fantasy life
984
00:44:25,225 --> 00:44:26,313
of two rock and rollers.
985
00:44:26,357 --> 00:44:27,967
["I Saw Her Again" playing]
986
00:44:28,011 --> 00:44:30,578
- ♪ I saw her again
last night ♪
987
00:44:30,622 --> 00:44:33,538
♪ And you know
that I shouldn't ♪
988
00:44:33,581 --> 00:44:37,934
- There were girls everywhere.
989
00:44:37,977 --> 00:44:40,676
I used to live down
the street from them.
990
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,678
So when he and Michelle
were split,
991
00:44:42,721 --> 00:44:44,244
you know, they weren't together,
992
00:44:44,288 --> 00:44:46,682
John used to come and just talk.
993
00:44:46,725 --> 00:44:50,381
He needed to talk,
and I was, like, there.
994
00:44:51,034 --> 00:44:53,079
I don't know,
you know what happens.
995
00:44:53,123 --> 00:44:55,691
Who can explain attraction?
996
00:44:55,734 --> 00:44:59,346
- I started seeing Gene Clark
from The Byrds
997
00:44:59,390 --> 00:45:00,696
clandestinely.
998
00:45:00,739 --> 00:45:04,003
He lived down the street
from me.
999
00:45:04,047 --> 00:45:06,353
I knew that if John found out
that I was seeing Gene,
1000
00:45:06,397 --> 00:45:07,703
he would be furious,
1001
00:45:07,746 --> 00:45:09,530
in spite of his own girlfriend.
1002
00:45:09,574 --> 00:45:11,619
So we kept it quiet.
1003
00:45:11,663 --> 00:45:14,231
When we were gonna play
Melodyland, Gene asked me
1004
00:45:14,274 --> 00:45:16,146
if he could have a couple
of tickets to the concert,
1005
00:45:16,189 --> 00:45:18,539
and I said, "Absolutely."
I called the office.
1006
00:45:18,583 --> 00:45:19,889
I didn't realize they were
gonna put him
1007
00:45:19,932 --> 00:45:21,325
in the front row.
1008
00:45:21,368 --> 00:45:26,417
- ♪ Got a feeling
that I'm wasting ♪
1009
00:45:26,460 --> 00:45:31,422
♪ Time on you, babe
1010
00:45:31,465 --> 00:45:34,251
♪ Got a feeling that
1011
00:45:34,294 --> 00:45:41,040
♪ You're been untrue
1012
00:45:41,084 --> 00:45:43,042
- When Cass saw Gene,
1013
00:45:43,086 --> 00:45:44,391
she knew that there could be
1014
00:45:44,435 --> 00:45:48,700
a murder on stage any minute.
1015
00:45:48,744 --> 00:45:53,531
And then, John realized
what was going on.
1016
00:45:53,574 --> 00:45:58,579
- ♪ The joke's on you
1017
00:45:58,623 --> 00:46:03,193
♪ Baby, it's true
1018
00:46:03,236 --> 00:46:08,894
♪ The joke's on you
1019
00:46:08,938 --> 00:46:12,202
- At the end of the concert,
John took his mic, and yelled,
1020
00:46:12,245 --> 00:46:14,595
"Get the fuck over here."
1021
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:16,293
I ran up the stage,
out the backdoor,
1022
00:46:16,336 --> 00:46:17,947
and into my car.
1023
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:20,688
But John was hot on my heels,
and he grabbed me,
1024
00:46:20,732 --> 00:46:23,909
and he said, "You are fired,
you are fired."
1025
00:46:23,953 --> 00:46:25,432
And I said, "Well, I don't think
1026
00:46:25,476 --> 00:46:27,086
"you really have the legal right
1027
00:46:27,130 --> 00:46:28,435
to do that, John."
1028
00:46:28,479 --> 00:46:32,962
He said, "You wait and see."
1029
00:46:33,005 --> 00:46:34,877
- It's one thing
for a guy to sleep around,
1030
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,532
that's macho, you know,
A guy is really, you know.
1031
00:46:38,576 --> 00:46:40,708
But for a woman,
it was still--you know,
1032
00:46:40,752 --> 00:46:43,450
'60s were too close to the '50s.
1033
00:46:43,494 --> 00:46:45,844
You don't just lose
that overnight.
1034
00:46:45,888 --> 00:46:47,977
There was a difference
between men and women.
1035
00:46:48,020 --> 00:46:50,849
I mean, women were subordinate
to men.
1036
00:46:50,893 --> 00:46:53,286
I'm sorry,
but that's the way it was.
1037
00:46:53,330 --> 00:46:56,289
- There was no free love,
as far as I was concerned,
1038
00:46:56,333 --> 00:46:59,292
but there was nothing
that I could do about it.
1039
00:46:59,336 --> 00:47:01,120
I was thrown out of the group.
1040
00:47:01,164 --> 00:47:04,645
- It took a lot of pleading
and groveling to get back in.
1041
00:47:04,689 --> 00:47:06,212
It was hard to beg,
1042
00:47:06,256 --> 00:47:09,302
but I knew that it meant
going back with John.
1043
00:47:09,346 --> 00:47:10,869
- Hey, Michelle,
1044
00:47:10,913 --> 00:47:12,740
take this until Dionne Warwick
comes on, will you?
1045
00:47:16,048 --> 00:47:18,529
- They got offices
on Sunset Boulevard,
1046
00:47:18,572 --> 00:47:21,401
Monterey Pop offices,
to make phone calls
1047
00:47:21,445 --> 00:47:23,186
and set up this pop festival.
1048
00:47:23,229 --> 00:47:24,491
Oh, nothing's happened.
1049
00:47:24,535 --> 00:47:27,320
Let's press on.
1050
00:47:27,364 --> 00:47:30,584
- Well, this is John Phillips
of The Mamas and Papas.
1051
00:47:30,628 --> 00:47:32,543
- ♪ All the leaves are brown
1052
00:47:32,586 --> 00:47:34,110
- ♪ All the leaves are brown
1053
00:47:34,153 --> 00:47:36,199
- ♪ And the sky is gray
1054
00:47:36,242 --> 00:47:38,766
- ♪ And the sky is gray
1055
00:47:38,810 --> 00:47:40,420
- ♪ I've been for a walk
1056
00:47:40,464 --> 00:47:42,335
- ♪ I've been for a walk
1057
00:47:42,379 --> 00:47:44,381
- ♪ On a winter's day
1058
00:47:44,424 --> 00:47:47,166
- ♪ On a winter's day
1059
00:47:47,210 --> 00:47:48,515
- ♪ I'd be safe and warm
1060
00:47:48,559 --> 00:47:50,517
- ♪ I'd be safe and warm
1061
00:47:50,561 --> 00:47:52,650
- ♪ If I was in LA
1062
00:47:52,693 --> 00:47:55,131
- ♪ If I was in LA
1063
00:47:55,174 --> 00:47:58,656
- ♪ California dreamin'
- ♪ California dreamin'
1064
00:47:58,699 --> 00:48:02,660
- ♪ On such a winter's day
- ♪ On such a winter's day
1065
00:48:02,703 --> 00:48:05,184
- "California Dreamin'"
was written in New York
1066
00:48:05,228 --> 00:48:07,926
in the early '60s,
1067
00:48:07,970 --> 00:48:10,798
years before we actually
recorded it.
1068
00:48:10,842 --> 00:48:14,150
- I was begging John
to go up to California,
1069
00:48:14,193 --> 00:48:15,716
and he said, "We can't.
1070
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,544
"That's not
where the business is.
1071
00:48:17,588 --> 00:48:19,546
The business is in New York."
1072
00:48:19,590 --> 00:48:23,028
But one night, John woke me up
in the middle of the night,
1073
00:48:23,072 --> 00:48:26,945
"Wake up, I'm writing a song.
Listen to this."
1074
00:48:26,989 --> 00:48:30,644
- ♪ I'd be safe and warm
1075
00:48:30,688 --> 00:48:35,345
♪ If I was in LA
1076
00:48:35,388 --> 00:48:38,870
♪ California dreamin'
1077
00:48:38,914 --> 00:48:41,742
♪ On such a winter's day
1078
00:48:41,786 --> 00:48:44,571
- I said,
"It's beautiful, John."
1079
00:48:44,615 --> 00:48:46,182
He says, "Help me write it."
1080
00:48:46,225 --> 00:48:48,401
I said, "Tomorrow."
He said, "No,
1081
00:48:48,445 --> 00:48:51,187
help me write it now."
1082
00:48:51,230 --> 00:48:53,406
- ♪ Well, I got down
on my knees ♪
1083
00:48:53,450 --> 00:48:55,365
- ♪ I got down on my knees
1084
00:48:55,408 --> 00:48:57,758
- ♪ And I pretend to pray
1085
00:48:57,802 --> 00:48:59,760
- ♪ I pretend to pray
1086
00:48:59,804 --> 00:49:01,762
- ♪ You know the preacher
liked the cold ♪
1087
00:49:01,806 --> 00:49:03,764
- ♪ Preacher liked the cold
1088
00:49:03,808 --> 00:49:05,984
- ♪ He knows I'm gonna stay
1089
00:49:06,028 --> 00:49:08,769
- ♪ He knows I'm gonna stay
1090
00:49:08,813 --> 00:49:12,599
- ♪ California dreamin'
- ♪ California dreamin'
1091
00:49:12,643 --> 00:49:18,605
♪ On such a winter's day
1092
00:49:26,004 --> 00:49:27,963
- The Monterey Pop Festival,
we didn't know
1093
00:49:28,006 --> 00:49:31,879
that it would be a historical
landmark in music.
1094
00:49:31,923 --> 00:49:35,057
It was the height
of the Anti-Vietnam movement
1095
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:38,799
of flower power, make love,
not war.
1096
00:49:38,843 --> 00:49:41,628
Most people were out
of this conventional
1097
00:49:41,672 --> 00:49:43,761
state of mind.
1098
00:49:43,804 --> 00:49:46,764
It was a very diverse group
of artists
1099
00:49:46,807 --> 00:49:48,592
that would never
ordinarily perform
1100
00:49:48,635 --> 00:49:50,289
on the same bill together.
1101
00:49:50,333 --> 00:49:52,291
- It was the first time
that it happened.
1102
00:49:52,335 --> 00:49:55,816
A whole gang of us played
at the same place like that.
1103
00:49:55,860 --> 00:49:57,470
Very exciting.
1104
00:49:57,514 --> 00:49:59,777
It was the first time
that I'd seen The Who live,
1105
00:49:59,820 --> 00:50:01,605
and that was a bit of a shock.
1106
00:50:01,648 --> 00:50:04,260
- The Who,
the Jefferson Airplane,
1107
00:50:04,303 --> 00:50:08,307
Otis Redding, Ravi Shankar
was there,
1108
00:50:08,351 --> 00:50:10,135
Buffalo Springfield.
1109
00:50:10,179 --> 00:50:12,703
- I'm--I'm here
to fulfill a function
1110
00:50:12,746 --> 00:50:14,444
this particular time around,
1111
00:50:14,487 --> 00:50:16,924
one which I revel in
and glory in,
1112
00:50:16,968 --> 00:50:19,144
that I'm introducing
the next group
1113
00:50:19,188 --> 00:50:20,537
who are my favorites
1114
00:50:20,580 --> 00:50:22,930
because of
long-standing friendships
1115
00:50:22,974 --> 00:50:25,672
with individuals,
as well as, uh--
1116
00:50:25,716 --> 00:50:27,979
I like the music.
1117
00:50:28,023 --> 00:50:30,416
I'd like you to welcome
my favorite group,
1118
00:50:30,460 --> 00:50:31,678
The Buffalo Springfield.
1119
00:50:33,550 --> 00:50:37,510
["For What It's Worth" playing]
1120
00:50:37,554 --> 00:50:39,599
- Just before the festival,
1121
00:50:39,643 --> 00:50:42,863
The Springfield
was reaching its demise.
1122
00:50:42,907 --> 00:50:46,650
- ♪ There's battle lines
being drawn ♪
1123
00:50:46,693 --> 00:50:51,133
♪ Nobody's right
if everybody's wrong ♪
1124
00:50:51,176 --> 00:50:53,831
- ♪ Oh, yeah
- ♪ Young people speaking...
1125
00:50:53,874 --> 00:50:55,354
- Neil made it a point
to be in the band,
1126
00:50:55,398 --> 00:50:57,748
out of the band, in the band,
out of the band,
1127
00:50:57,791 --> 00:51:01,056
and so we kept going back
and forth.
1128
00:51:01,099 --> 00:51:02,709
- ♪ We got to stop, children
1129
00:51:02,753 --> 00:51:04,189
♪ What's that sound?
1130
00:51:04,233 --> 00:51:07,453
♪ Everybody look,
what's going down? ♪
1131
00:51:07,497 --> 00:51:09,325
- We were at Monterey.
We were down a man
1132
00:51:09,368 --> 00:51:11,936
and we got David Crosby
to come and sit in with us,
1133
00:51:11,979 --> 00:51:15,113
and everybody got
really uptight.
1134
00:51:15,157 --> 00:51:19,509
- There's David up there
with The Buffalo Springfield.
1135
00:51:19,552 --> 00:51:21,728
- Well, that wispy, you
could hear the vibrations
1136
00:51:21,772 --> 00:51:23,208
going through
the entire open hall.
1137
00:51:23,252 --> 00:51:24,818
- It--it put a lot
of people uptight.
1138
00:51:24,862 --> 00:51:26,124
- It sure did.
1139
00:51:26,168 --> 00:51:27,778
- But he didn't put me uptight.
1140
00:51:27,821 --> 00:51:28,953
- No.
- He didn't put Stephen Stills
1141
00:51:28,996 --> 00:51:30,520
uptight.
- No.
1142
00:51:30,563 --> 00:51:31,651
- 'Cause we were two musicians
1143
00:51:31,695 --> 00:51:33,088
and we wanted to make music.
1144
00:51:33,131 --> 00:51:34,915
And to heck with the rules, man.
1145
00:51:34,959 --> 00:51:36,917
- ♪ Stop, children,
what's that sound? ♪
1146
00:51:36,961 --> 00:51:38,571
- He was okay up there with him.
1147
00:51:38,615 --> 00:51:40,834
It didn't bother me
that much at the time.
1148
00:51:40,878 --> 00:51:42,532
I had a feeling David
was getting restless
1149
00:51:42,575 --> 00:51:44,925
and he felt that it was time
to do something else.
1150
00:51:44,969 --> 00:51:46,013
And he was sort
of looking around
1151
00:51:46,057 --> 00:51:48,973
for something else to do.
1152
00:51:49,016 --> 00:51:53,586
- ♪ Paranoia strikes deep
1153
00:51:53,630 --> 00:51:55,545
♪ Into your life
1154
00:51:55,588 --> 00:51:58,113
♪ It will creep
1155
00:51:58,156 --> 00:52:01,812
♪ It starts
when you're always afraid ♪
1156
00:52:01,855 --> 00:52:03,248
♪ Step out of the line
1157
00:52:03,292 --> 00:52:04,771
- I wasn't really
highly regarded
1158
00:52:04,815 --> 00:52:07,209
in The Byrds as a writer.
1159
00:52:07,252 --> 00:52:10,821
You know, that was one
of the bones of contention.
1160
00:52:10,864 --> 00:52:12,431
- David Crosby
was very talented,
1161
00:52:12,475 --> 00:52:15,434
but he also had an ego
the size of the moon.
1162
00:52:15,478 --> 00:52:18,263
He became very difficult
to work with.
1163
00:52:18,307 --> 00:52:20,222
- I was very competitive
with Roger,
1164
00:52:20,265 --> 00:52:24,095
who was always central
in The Byrds, and rightly so.
1165
00:52:24,139 --> 00:52:26,358
- Well, the Byrds were like
a pirate ship as opposed
1166
00:52:26,402 --> 00:52:28,969
to a close-knit group
of brothers.
1167
00:52:29,013 --> 00:52:31,233
The differences were
in who got their songs
1168
00:52:31,276 --> 00:52:32,538
on the record.
1169
00:52:32,582 --> 00:52:33,887
Terry Melcher was our producer.
1170
00:52:33,931 --> 00:52:35,280
He was my friend.
1171
00:52:35,324 --> 00:52:36,977
He would get my songs on there.
1172
00:52:37,021 --> 00:52:38,457
And he didn't like David Crosby,
1173
00:52:38,501 --> 00:52:40,329
and David Crosby
didn't like Terry Melcher,
1174
00:52:40,372 --> 00:52:43,332
so David wasn't getting
his songs on there.
1175
00:52:43,375 --> 00:52:45,160
And that was a problem.
1176
00:52:45,203 --> 00:52:49,860
They were good songs,
but it was politics.
1177
00:52:49,903 --> 00:52:51,470
- I wanted more of everything.
1178
00:52:51,514 --> 00:52:52,906
I wanted more attention.
1179
00:52:52,950 --> 00:52:56,475
My position in that band
was wingman.
1180
00:52:56,519 --> 00:52:58,521
That was part
of the grid and the gears
1181
00:52:58,564 --> 00:53:01,350
that eventually made
that one come unglued.
1182
00:53:01,393 --> 00:53:04,004
So, they let me go.
1183
00:53:04,048 --> 00:53:05,658
I've never been good with roles.
1184
00:53:05,702 --> 00:53:07,399
But life has changed.
1185
00:53:07,443 --> 00:53:11,186
Everything changes all the time.
1186
00:53:13,797 --> 00:53:15,059
- Okay.
1187
00:53:15,102 --> 00:53:16,800
So...
1188
00:53:16,843 --> 00:53:18,715
who you are, what your name is?
1189
00:53:18,758 --> 00:53:20,847
What you really do?
1190
00:53:20,891 --> 00:53:23,763
- Who I am?
1191
00:53:23,807 --> 00:53:25,939
Let's see.
1192
00:53:32,163 --> 00:53:34,252
That's a hard departure point.
1193
00:53:34,296 --> 00:53:36,080
What'll be...
1194
00:53:36,123 --> 00:53:37,777
the synopsis, I don't know.
1195
00:53:37,821 --> 00:53:38,952
- Your name.
1196
00:53:38,996 --> 00:53:40,519
- Oh, just identification?
1197
00:53:40,563 --> 00:53:42,086
I'm Joni Mitchell.
1198
00:53:42,129 --> 00:53:45,350
["Ladies Of The Canyon" playing]
1199
00:53:51,138 --> 00:53:54,359
- ♪ Trina wears
her wampum beads ♪
1200
00:53:54,403 --> 00:53:59,277
♪ She fills her drawing book
with line ♪
1201
00:53:59,321 --> 00:54:02,106
- I remember,
so when I first got here
1202
00:54:02,149 --> 00:54:05,370
driving around up in the canyons
1203
00:54:05,414 --> 00:54:07,981
with a good stereo.
1204
00:54:08,025 --> 00:54:09,331
There were no sidewalks.
1205
00:54:09,374 --> 00:54:11,420
There were no regimented lines.
1206
00:54:11,463 --> 00:54:14,727
The ruralness of it,
the friendliness of it...
1207
00:54:14,771 --> 00:54:16,903
No one locked their doors.
1208
00:54:16,947 --> 00:54:20,298
♪ Trimmed
with antique luxury ♪
1209
00:54:20,342 --> 00:54:25,303
♪ She is a lady
of the canyon ♪
1210
00:54:30,352 --> 00:54:32,789
- Having lived in New York
and then come here,
1211
00:54:32,832 --> 00:54:34,269
having trees in the yard,
1212
00:54:34,312 --> 00:54:36,140
having ducks
in my neighbor's yard
1213
00:54:36,183 --> 00:54:38,098
floating around on the pond,
1214
00:54:38,142 --> 00:54:40,405
the ducks on the Ladies
of the Canyon album
1215
00:54:40,449 --> 00:54:43,190
were actually on the pond
that I could see
1216
00:54:43,234 --> 00:54:44,931
from my dining room window.
1217
00:54:48,283 --> 00:54:50,807
- Joni's house on
Lookout Mountain Avenue was--
1218
00:54:50,850 --> 00:54:52,591
was one of those little typical
1219
00:54:52,635 --> 00:54:55,725
Laurel Canyon bungalows.
1220
00:54:55,768 --> 00:54:58,728
Wood shingles and a wood roof.
1221
00:54:58,771 --> 00:55:01,992
Big windows all over.
1222
00:55:02,035 --> 00:55:04,864
Big, beautiful,
natural wood grand piano
1223
00:55:04,908 --> 00:55:06,997
in the living room,
her paintings,
1224
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,478
her drawings,
and little crystals
1225
00:55:09,521 --> 00:55:11,523
hanging in front of the window,
1226
00:55:11,567 --> 00:55:16,267
very conducive for the kind
of music that she wrote.
1227
00:55:16,311 --> 00:55:18,574
The record company
needed publicity pictures,
1228
00:55:18,617 --> 00:55:21,490
so I went up there
with my partner, Gary Burden.
1229
00:55:21,533 --> 00:55:23,318
But as we approached the house,
1230
00:55:23,361 --> 00:55:25,624
she was leaning on the window
waiting for us.
1231
00:55:25,668 --> 00:55:29,802
And luckily, Gary got into
a whole conversation with her,
1232
00:55:29,846 --> 00:55:33,632
which allowed me to change
from wide angle to telephoto
1233
00:55:33,676 --> 00:55:37,027
and just kept clicking away
as long as she was talking.
1234
00:55:39,682 --> 00:55:41,074
- Joni Mitchell,
1235
00:55:41,118 --> 00:55:44,164
very young lady,
Saskatchewan-born.
1236
00:55:44,208 --> 00:55:46,471
You're just starting out,
sort of, aren't you?
1237
00:55:46,515 --> 00:55:48,473
- I consider
that I've only started
1238
00:55:48,517 --> 00:55:50,693
within the last year
because I've only felt
1239
00:55:50,736 --> 00:55:54,392
that I've begun to have
my own--my own way to go,
1240
00:55:54,436 --> 00:55:56,176
my own songs,
and my own guitar style,
1241
00:55:56,220 --> 00:55:59,789
and--and I'm starting to get
my own vocal styling now.
1242
00:55:59,832 --> 00:56:01,399
- Joni had 20
1243
00:56:01,443 --> 00:56:03,619
of the best songs
I'd ever heard.
1244
00:56:03,662 --> 00:56:05,490
And I said, "I would do anything
1245
00:56:05,534 --> 00:56:07,666
to work with you.
What do I have to do?"
1246
00:56:07,710 --> 00:56:09,233
Joan did everything herself.
1247
00:56:09,276 --> 00:56:11,061
She booked her tour,
she was her own agent.
1248
00:56:11,104 --> 00:56:12,671
She traveled all alone.
And she said,
1249
00:56:12,715 --> 00:56:14,499
"I'm leaving
for Detroit tomorrow.
1250
00:56:14,543 --> 00:56:16,719
"If you come with me,
spend your own money.
1251
00:56:16,762 --> 00:56:18,198
I could use the company."
1252
00:56:18,242 --> 00:56:19,548
And so we went
on the road together
1253
00:56:19,591 --> 00:56:22,420
for about three
and a half, four weeks.
1254
00:56:22,464 --> 00:56:26,381
When we came back,
Joni became my first client.
1255
00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:32,778
- All the New York companies
passed, Sony and RCA and MGM.
1256
00:56:32,822 --> 00:56:35,433
They didn't really
want any folk artist.
1257
00:56:35,477 --> 00:56:39,394
Vanguard had Joan Baez
and Elektra had Judy Collins,
1258
00:56:39,437 --> 00:56:42,266
so it was very hard
for Joni to get a deal.
1259
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:44,224
- My music--it's on a guitar.
1260
00:56:44,268 --> 00:56:45,878
I look like a folk singer,
and folk music
1261
00:56:45,922 --> 00:56:47,358
was already dead.
1262
00:56:47,402 --> 00:56:49,229
I had come in so late
in the movement.
1263
00:56:49,273 --> 00:56:50,927
And everybody assumed
I was a folk singer.
1264
00:56:50,970 --> 00:56:53,538
But in fact, I was really
a classical musician
1265
00:56:53,582 --> 00:56:55,322
in a certain way.
1266
00:56:55,366 --> 00:56:59,675
- My goal was to go out
to California.
1267
00:56:59,718 --> 00:57:02,417
And I played her demos
for Warner Bros.
1268
00:57:02,460 --> 00:57:05,071
["Song To A Seagull" playing]
- ♪ Fly silly seabirds
1269
00:57:05,115 --> 00:57:08,988
♪ No dreams can possess you
1270
00:57:09,032 --> 00:57:12,557
- That was my first deal
I had ever made.
1271
00:57:12,601 --> 00:57:14,124
I hired David Crosby
1272
00:57:14,167 --> 00:57:17,170
to produce Joni's album
for her first album.
1273
00:57:17,214 --> 00:57:19,390
He had just been kicked out
of The Byrds
1274
00:57:19,434 --> 00:57:20,826
four or five months earlier.
1275
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:22,480
He had met Joni in Florida.
1276
00:57:22,524 --> 00:57:25,570
- ♪ Have names
they must call me ♪
1277
00:57:25,614 --> 00:57:27,050
- I walked in the door.
1278
00:57:27,093 --> 00:57:28,573
She was singing
"Michael From Mountains"
1279
00:57:28,617 --> 00:57:32,272
or "Both Sides Now,"
and just stunned me.
1280
00:57:32,316 --> 00:57:35,188
I was in love with her
for a year.
1281
00:57:35,232 --> 00:57:36,625
- We were both just so excited
1282
00:57:36,668 --> 00:57:38,453
to bring her out to California.
1283
00:57:38,496 --> 00:57:41,673
- ♪ The seagulls fly
out of reach... ♪
1284
00:57:41,717 --> 00:57:43,762
- It was just a plethora
of great bands
1285
00:57:43,806 --> 00:57:45,503
coming out of LA at that time.
1286
00:57:45,547 --> 00:57:48,941
The Doors and The Turtles
and Mamas and Papas.
1287
00:57:48,985 --> 00:57:50,160
["Twelve Thirty" playing]
1288
00:57:50,203 --> 00:57:52,684
- ♪ Young girls are coming
1289
00:57:52,728 --> 00:57:58,734
♪ To the canyon
1290
00:57:58,777 --> 00:58:00,562
♪ And in the mornings
1291
00:58:00,605 --> 00:58:06,089
♪ I can see them walking
1292
00:58:06,132 --> 00:58:08,526
- California--my work is there.
1293
00:58:08,570 --> 00:58:10,833
I record there and I do
a lot of television there.
1294
00:58:10,876 --> 00:58:15,272
But all work and no play
makes Cass a dull girl.
1295
00:58:15,315 --> 00:58:18,623
- ♪ And I can't keep
myself... ♪
1296
00:58:18,667 --> 00:58:21,191
- I looked at 78 houses
before I bought my house.
1297
00:58:21,234 --> 00:58:22,801
My house looks like it was
just snatched
1298
00:58:22,845 --> 00:58:24,237
out of Connecticut
and sat right there
1299
00:58:24,281 --> 00:58:25,804
in the middle of California.
1300
00:58:25,848 --> 00:58:30,113
A lot of roses and a lot
of grounds around it.
1301
00:58:30,156 --> 00:58:31,941
- Very often, Mama Cass--
1302
00:58:31,984 --> 00:58:33,508
she would be on a TV show
1303
00:58:33,551 --> 00:58:35,161
with The Mamas and Papas.
1304
00:58:35,205 --> 00:58:37,076
And she would meet young groups
1305
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,078
from England
over for the first time.
1306
00:58:39,122 --> 00:58:40,993
And that was the case
with Cream,
1307
00:58:41,037 --> 00:58:42,821
and she met Eric Clapton.
1308
00:58:42,865 --> 00:58:44,170
He didn't know anybody.
1309
00:58:44,214 --> 00:58:45,694
He'd never been
to the US before.
1310
00:58:45,737 --> 00:58:47,217
She said,
"Well, come up to my house.
1311
00:58:47,260 --> 00:58:48,827
"I'll bring some friends over.
1312
00:58:48,871 --> 00:58:51,177
We'll have a little barbecue
in the backyard."
1313
00:58:51,221 --> 00:58:53,353
She invited Micky Dolenz.
1314
00:58:53,397 --> 00:58:56,226
He came over with
a sixteen-millimeter camera
1315
00:58:56,269 --> 00:58:58,445
and David Crosby.
1316
00:58:58,489 --> 00:59:00,839
Crosby brought his new protégé,
1317
00:59:00,883 --> 00:59:03,712
his new find, this young girl
1318
00:59:03,755 --> 00:59:06,018
who sang her own songs.
1319
00:59:06,062 --> 00:59:09,674
And she came over and sat
on the grass with her guitar.
1320
00:59:14,549 --> 00:59:16,551
Eric Clapton was sitting there,
1321
00:59:16,594 --> 00:59:19,858
staring at her
because she tuned to a chord.
1322
00:59:19,902 --> 00:59:22,426
It's a kind of a folk tuning.
You tune to a chord
1323
00:59:22,469 --> 00:59:24,950
and then you don't do
the normal fingering.
1324
00:59:24,994 --> 00:59:26,430
He had never seen this before.
1325
00:59:26,473 --> 00:59:28,867
He sat there just amazed.
1326
00:59:28,911 --> 00:59:31,566
- ♪ Fly silly seabird
1327
00:59:31,609 --> 00:59:36,614
♪ No dreams can possess you
1328
00:59:36,658 --> 00:59:39,312
♪ No voices can blame you
1329
00:59:39,356 --> 00:59:44,448
♪ For sun on your wings
1330
00:59:44,491 --> 00:59:46,015
- I produced her first album.
1331
00:59:46,058 --> 00:59:48,583
- ♪ My gentle relations
1332
00:59:48,626 --> 00:59:50,410
- I didn't really know
what I was doing.
1333
00:59:50,454 --> 00:59:52,761
I just knew that I wanted
to get her on tape
1334
00:59:52,804 --> 00:59:56,416
without a lot of other crud
being put on top of it.
1335
00:59:56,460 --> 01:00:02,553
- ♪ Freedom of all
flying things ♪
1336
01:00:02,597 --> 01:00:04,642
- I think perhaps
without David's protection,
1337
01:00:04,686 --> 01:00:07,123
they might have set some kind
of producer on me
1338
01:00:07,166 --> 01:00:09,516
who would try to make an apple
out of an orange.
1339
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,258
His instincts were, "I wanna
pretend to produce you
1340
01:00:12,302 --> 01:00:13,738
and I'm not
gonna do anything."
1341
01:00:13,782 --> 01:00:16,393
He basically was going
to protect it
1342
01:00:16,436 --> 01:00:18,917
because he liked
it the way it was.
1343
01:00:18,961 --> 01:00:22,268
- ♪ I came to the city
1344
01:00:22,312 --> 01:00:26,185
♪ And lived like old Crusoe
1345
01:00:26,229 --> 01:00:29,406
♪ On an island of noise
1346
01:00:29,449 --> 01:00:31,495
- When I climbed up
my first palm tree
1347
01:00:31,538 --> 01:00:33,453
at Los Angeles
International Airport,
1348
01:00:33,497 --> 01:00:36,326
I--I never wanted to go back
to England after that.
1349
01:00:36,369 --> 01:00:37,501
["Carrie Anne" playing]
1350
01:00:37,544 --> 01:00:39,285
- ♪ Hey, Carrie Anne
1351
01:00:39,329 --> 01:00:41,113
♪ What's your game now?
1352
01:00:41,157 --> 01:00:44,073
♪ Can anybody play?
1353
01:00:44,116 --> 01:00:46,292
- I had come to Los Angeles
with my band
1354
01:00:46,336 --> 01:00:47,946
from the north of England.
1355
01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:50,949
I'd already been in
The Hollies for seven years.
1356
01:00:50,993 --> 01:00:52,951
They had struck a formula
for success,
1357
01:00:52,995 --> 01:00:56,215
and were content to drive
that formula into the ground.
1358
01:00:56,259 --> 01:00:58,391
They didn't wanna follow my urge
1359
01:00:58,435 --> 01:01:00,698
to keep getting better
and moving forward.
1360
01:01:00,742 --> 01:01:04,659
- ♪ When the lesson's over,
you'll be with me ♪
1361
01:01:04,702 --> 01:01:07,183
- I began to realize that...
1362
01:01:07,226 --> 01:01:09,054
I was in the wrong place.
1363
01:01:09,098 --> 01:01:11,840
- ♪ Hey, Carrie Anne
1364
01:01:11,883 --> 01:01:14,407
- The Hollies
were being thrown a party
1365
01:01:14,451 --> 01:01:16,366
by a record company.
1366
01:01:16,409 --> 01:01:17,846
This kid comes up to us
and he goes,
1367
01:01:17,889 --> 01:01:19,674
"What are you guys
doing after this?
1368
01:01:19,717 --> 01:01:20,979
"I have these friends
that are making a record
1369
01:01:21,023 --> 01:01:22,589
"down the street.
1370
01:01:22,633 --> 01:01:24,156
They're called
The Mamas and the Papas."
1371
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,376
I said, "Let's go."
1372
01:01:26,419 --> 01:01:28,813
We went down
to this recording studio.
1373
01:01:28,857 --> 01:01:31,207
John and Michelle
and Denny were recording,
1374
01:01:31,250 --> 01:01:32,904
but Cass was standing outside.
1375
01:01:32,948 --> 01:01:36,168
And Cass said to me,
"What are you doing tomorrow?"
1376
01:01:36,212 --> 01:01:38,867
She picked me up at noon
in her convertible Porsche.
1377
01:01:38,910 --> 01:01:41,521
She drove me
10 minutes to Laurel Canyon,
1378
01:01:41,565 --> 01:01:44,220
very close to Hollywood,
drove up to this place
1379
01:01:44,263 --> 01:01:47,353
with another convertible
Porsche in that driveway.
1380
01:01:47,397 --> 01:01:49,442
We walked up the stairs.
1381
01:01:49,486 --> 01:01:50,835
There was the guy playing
1382
01:01:50,879 --> 01:01:52,707
an acoustic guitar on the couch.
1383
01:01:52,750 --> 01:01:54,752
And he's got a shoebox,
the lid is full of grass,
1384
01:01:54,796 --> 01:01:56,711
and he's separating
the grass from the stems
1385
01:01:56,754 --> 01:02:00,062
and rolling perfect joints
while still talking to me,
1386
01:02:00,105 --> 01:02:02,281
never losing eye contact.
1387
01:02:02,325 --> 01:02:05,023
I'm going,
"Wow. This is insane."
1388
01:02:05,067 --> 01:02:06,546
That's how I first met Crosby.
1389
01:02:06,590 --> 01:02:09,332
And my life
has never been the same.
1390
01:02:11,421 --> 01:02:12,901
- I had the best pot in town.
1391
01:02:12,944 --> 01:02:16,556
I'd give people a joint
and they get stomped,
1392
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,037
completely stoned out
of their gourds.
1393
01:02:19,081 --> 01:02:22,258
And I said, "Hey, Johnny.
Why don't you sing a song?"
1394
01:02:22,301 --> 01:02:24,521
They'd listen to her sing,
and then their brains
1395
01:02:24,564 --> 01:02:26,566
would run out their nose
on the floor in a puddle,
1396
01:02:26,610 --> 01:02:28,351
and that'd be that.
1397
01:02:30,527 --> 01:02:33,095
- Drugs in the '60s--
1398
01:02:33,138 --> 01:02:36,663
they did some good and they
did some harm, obviously.
1399
01:02:38,448 --> 01:02:41,059
I took two tabs of acid one time
1400
01:02:41,103 --> 01:02:42,757
and saw electricity.
1401
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,889
Not only that,
I saw theoretical physics
1402
01:02:44,933 --> 01:02:47,326
with my own eyes.
I saw the luminous fibers
1403
01:02:47,370 --> 01:02:49,285
that chain everything together.
1404
01:02:51,461 --> 01:02:54,072
Everything, from rocks to trees,
1405
01:02:54,116 --> 01:02:56,901
we were all suspended
in this plasma.
1406
01:02:56,945 --> 01:02:59,774
These are nature's
telephone wires.
1407
01:03:00,687 --> 01:03:02,341
Man doesn't make anything
1408
01:03:02,385 --> 01:03:04,735
that he doesn't imitate
from nature.
1409
01:03:06,215 --> 01:03:08,695
The insights that came
from that one trip
1410
01:03:08,739 --> 01:03:10,610
changed my psychology
so radically
1411
01:03:10,654 --> 01:03:13,744
that I had to withdraw
and think about it.
1412
01:03:13,788 --> 01:03:15,833
A writer can move time around.
1413
01:03:15,877 --> 01:03:17,530
You can take incidents
that happened
1414
01:03:17,574 --> 01:03:19,054
over a span of 15 years
1415
01:03:19,097 --> 01:03:21,665
and make them all occur
in the same moment.
1416
01:03:21,708 --> 01:03:23,667
Maybe the truth doesn't rhyme.
1417
01:03:25,495 --> 01:03:27,236
- It was really
a spiritual practice.
1418
01:03:27,279 --> 01:03:31,806
We smoked grass to understand,
to learn.
1419
01:03:32,850 --> 01:03:35,287
As Ray Manzarek
once famously said,
1420
01:03:35,331 --> 01:03:36,462
"These weren't drugs.
1421
01:03:36,506 --> 01:03:38,508
These were sacraments."
1422
01:03:39,117 --> 01:03:42,120
- My experiments with dope
opened my eyes
1423
01:03:42,164 --> 01:03:44,557
to the fact that there was
much more to music
1424
01:03:44,601 --> 01:03:47,691
than creating
a three-minute pop hit,
1425
01:03:47,734 --> 01:03:50,825
which The Hollies
were really in that.
1426
01:03:50,868 --> 01:03:53,958
- Music--it's an expression
of the younger generation.
1427
01:03:54,002 --> 01:03:56,047
We can go in front
of a television camera,
1428
01:03:56,091 --> 01:03:57,744
we can go on the air,
1429
01:03:57,788 --> 01:04:01,096
we can stop world wars
before they ever started.
1430
01:04:01,139 --> 01:04:03,054
Love rules the world.
1431
01:04:04,664 --> 01:04:06,884
- The Hollies
were doing a show in Ottawa.
1432
01:04:06,928 --> 01:04:08,581
We were in one of those places
1433
01:04:08,625 --> 01:04:10,148
where you get
a cheap glass of wine,
1434
01:04:10,192 --> 01:04:12,411
and my tour manager
is talking in my ear.
1435
01:04:12,455 --> 01:04:14,109
And I'm saying,
"Please. Please."
1436
01:04:14,152 --> 01:04:15,762
And he's going on me.
And I said, "Please.
1437
01:04:15,806 --> 01:04:17,416
"I'm trying to catch the eye
1438
01:04:17,460 --> 01:04:19,201
of this fucking beautiful
woman in the corner."
1439
01:04:19,244 --> 01:04:20,985
He said, "Well,
if you'd fucking listen to me,
1440
01:04:21,029 --> 01:04:23,466
"I'm trying to tell you
that's Joni Mitchell.
1441
01:04:23,509 --> 01:04:25,511
And she wants to see you."
1442
01:04:25,555 --> 01:04:27,035
So, I go over to Joni,
1443
01:04:27,078 --> 01:04:29,994
she has this pale,
blue silk dress on,
1444
01:04:30,038 --> 01:04:33,650
and a music box
with a broken note on her lap.
1445
01:04:33,693 --> 01:04:36,566
And it would go
1446
01:04:36,609 --> 01:04:38,089
And--and we laughed about that.
1447
01:04:38,133 --> 01:04:40,875
You know, that's how I met Joni.
1448
01:04:42,050 --> 01:04:44,008
It's a simple stuff.
1449
01:04:44,052 --> 01:04:45,792
But I was in love
from the moment
1450
01:04:45,836 --> 01:04:47,925
that I ever spent
any time with her.
1451
01:04:49,231 --> 01:04:52,147
I went back to undo my life
in England after that.
1452
01:04:55,977 --> 01:04:59,763
- By this time,
I had moved to Laurel Canyon.
1453
01:04:59,806 --> 01:05:03,332
My house was two houses down
from Joni's house.
1454
01:05:03,375 --> 01:05:06,509
Everyone was just
living there, doing demos,
1455
01:05:06,552 --> 01:05:08,076
forming bands,
1456
01:05:08,119 --> 01:05:10,556
forming relationships.
1457
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,297
I wanted to start
my own company,
1458
01:05:12,341 --> 01:05:16,040
so I opened my own office,
Lookout Management.
1459
01:05:16,084 --> 01:05:18,347
We were in the recording studio,
1460
01:05:18,390 --> 01:05:19,914
Sunset Sound.
1461
01:05:19,957 --> 01:05:21,916
Someone came in and said,
"Hey, Joan,
1462
01:05:21,959 --> 01:05:24,570
The Buffalo Springfield
are in Room B.
1463
01:05:24,614 --> 01:05:26,746
You should come by
and say hello."
1464
01:05:26,790 --> 01:05:28,270
Joni had been
an old friend of Neil's.
1465
01:05:28,313 --> 01:05:30,925
They had gone
the Toronto Folk Circuit.
1466
01:05:30,968 --> 01:05:33,231
So after our session, we went by
1467
01:05:33,275 --> 01:05:35,103
where The Springfield
were recording.
1468
01:05:35,146 --> 01:05:37,366
That night,
we went to Ben Frank's,
1469
01:05:37,409 --> 01:05:38,976
a diner that was open late
1470
01:05:39,020 --> 01:05:40,673
where all the musicians
usually would come
1471
01:05:40,717 --> 01:05:42,980
after they played
around midnight.
1472
01:05:43,024 --> 01:05:45,591
The Springfield
had just fired their manager,
1473
01:05:45,635 --> 01:05:49,552
and you could see that Neil
wanted to leave the band.
1474
01:05:50,422 --> 01:05:52,163
- Neil, The Buffalo Springfield
1475
01:05:52,207 --> 01:05:54,252
lasted two and a half years
and produced
1476
01:05:54,296 --> 01:05:56,689
some of the more interesting
sounds on the scene.
1477
01:05:56,733 --> 01:05:59,301
Why is it in existence
no longer?
1478
01:05:59,344 --> 01:06:00,780
- Well, we didn't achieve
1479
01:06:00,824 --> 01:06:02,304
anywhere near the success
1480
01:06:02,347 --> 01:06:04,262
that we expected or wished to.
1481
01:06:04,306 --> 01:06:06,482
It's hard enough
to live with yourself
1482
01:06:06,525 --> 01:06:09,224
when you've considered
what you've done a failure.
1483
01:06:09,267 --> 01:06:10,965
Living with four other guys
1484
01:06:11,008 --> 01:06:12,792
is even harder, you know.
1485
01:06:12,836 --> 01:06:14,533
Just couldn't do it.
1486
01:06:14,577 --> 01:06:17,362
And I--I quit.
1487
01:06:17,406 --> 01:06:19,364
- We couldn't quite clear
that final hump.
1488
01:06:19,408 --> 01:06:21,671
We get the big gigs
and get paid all that money,
1489
01:06:21,714 --> 01:06:24,065
press agents,
management, whatever.
1490
01:06:24,108 --> 01:06:25,892
And I think we were
on the verge of it
1491
01:06:25,936 --> 01:06:29,287
when Neil took off
to do his solo album
1492
01:06:29,331 --> 01:06:31,811
and David Crosby and I,
1493
01:06:31,855 --> 01:06:34,858
both having seen demise
of our respective bands,
1494
01:06:34,901 --> 01:06:37,382
we were hanging out together
for a period of months
1495
01:06:37,426 --> 01:06:40,124
trying to figure out
what we're gonna do next.
1496
01:06:44,215 --> 01:06:48,002
- I had come to Los Angeles
to spend some time with Joni.
1497
01:06:48,045 --> 01:06:50,656
There's other voices
in the house.
1498
01:06:50,700 --> 01:06:52,136
It was David and Stephen.
1499
01:06:52,180 --> 01:06:54,617
After dinner,
we smoked a big joint.
1500
01:06:54,660 --> 01:06:56,358
The Springfield had broken up.
1501
01:06:56,401 --> 01:06:58,186
David had been thrown out
of The Byrds.
1502
01:06:58,229 --> 01:07:00,057
They were trying to get
an Everly Brothers
1503
01:07:00,101 --> 01:07:03,191
duo thing together,
and David said to Stephen,
1504
01:07:03,234 --> 01:07:04,627
"Sing that song."
1505
01:07:04,670 --> 01:07:05,671
["You Don't Have To Cry"
playing]
1506
01:07:05,715 --> 01:07:07,369
- ♪ In the mornin'
1507
01:07:07,412 --> 01:07:10,328
♪ When you rise
1508
01:07:10,372 --> 01:07:11,938
♪ Do you think of me
1509
01:07:11,982 --> 01:07:15,507
♪ And how you left
me cryin'? ♪
1510
01:07:15,551 --> 01:07:16,943
- I said, "Holy shit.
1511
01:07:16,987 --> 01:07:18,815
Do me a favor.
Sing it one more time."
1512
01:07:18,858 --> 01:07:22,340
- ♪ I said cry, my baby
1513
01:07:22,384 --> 01:07:26,736
♪ You don't have to cry
1514
01:07:29,217 --> 01:07:31,088
- He got to the end of it
and I said,
1515
01:07:31,132 --> 01:07:34,396
"I may sound crazy,
but sing it one more time."
1516
01:07:34,439 --> 01:07:37,355
♪ In the long run
1517
01:07:37,399 --> 01:07:40,358
♪ It will make you cry
1518
01:07:40,402 --> 01:07:43,361
♪ Make you crazy and old
1519
01:07:43,405 --> 01:07:46,364
♪ Before your time
1520
01:07:46,408 --> 01:07:49,280
♪ And the difference
1521
01:07:49,324 --> 01:07:51,587
♪ Between me and you
1522
01:07:51,630 --> 01:07:53,893
♪ I won't argue right
or wrong ♪
1523
01:07:53,937 --> 01:07:57,506
♪ But I have time to cry,
my baby ♪
1524
01:07:57,549 --> 01:08:00,726
- The third time,
he put the harmony on.
1525
01:08:00,770 --> 01:08:04,382
- It was an astounding thing.
1526
01:08:04,426 --> 01:08:06,384
- We stopped singing and said,
1527
01:08:06,428 --> 01:08:08,082
"What the fuck just happened?"
1528
01:08:08,125 --> 01:08:09,866
- Stephen and I
didn't really know
1529
01:08:09,909 --> 01:08:12,782
what we wanted to do
until we heard Graham.
1530
01:08:14,479 --> 01:08:16,568
Then we knew exactly
1531
01:08:16,612 --> 01:08:18,396
what we wanted to do,
1532
01:08:18,440 --> 01:08:19,615
and we did it.
1533
01:08:19,658 --> 01:08:23,053
["Helplessly Hoping" playing]
1534
01:08:25,229 --> 01:08:28,102
♪ Helplessly hoping
1535
01:08:28,145 --> 01:08:30,408
♪ Her harlequin
1536
01:08:30,452 --> 01:08:33,150
♪ Hovers nearby
1537
01:08:33,194 --> 01:08:35,631
♪ Awaiting a word...
1538
01:08:35,674 --> 01:08:38,242
- We would go down
to a friend's house and say,
1539
01:08:38,286 --> 01:08:41,637
"Listen to this,"
and we would blow their minds.
1540
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,379
♪ Of gentle true spirit
1541
01:08:44,422 --> 01:08:46,032
♪ He runs
1542
01:08:46,076 --> 01:08:49,427
♪ Wishing he could fly high
1543
01:08:49,471 --> 01:08:51,429
- We'd heard a lot
of Peter, Paul, and Mary
1544
01:08:51,473 --> 01:08:53,257
and that three-part,
1545
01:08:53,301 --> 01:08:55,346
but we tried to make our voices
1546
01:08:55,390 --> 01:08:56,913
into one voice.
1547
01:08:56,956 --> 01:08:58,871
David's accent,
and Stephen's accent,
1548
01:08:58,915 --> 01:09:00,743
and my accent,
all coming together
1549
01:09:00,786 --> 01:09:02,136
with this one sound.
1550
01:09:02,179 --> 01:09:03,876
That's what was different.
1551
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,228
♪ He waits
by the window ♪
1552
01:09:07,271 --> 01:09:08,838
♪ And wonders
1553
01:09:08,881 --> 01:09:12,363
♪ At the empty place inside
1554
01:09:12,407 --> 01:09:13,930
- When a chemistry happens
1555
01:09:13,973 --> 01:09:15,453
between people, musically,
1556
01:09:15,497 --> 01:09:17,412
it's magic.
1557
01:09:18,848 --> 01:09:20,110
You can't predict it,
1558
01:09:20,154 --> 01:09:23,287
but something happens,
1559
01:09:23,331 --> 01:09:24,854
something new.
1560
01:09:26,508 --> 01:09:30,294
♪ Or even...
1561
01:09:30,338 --> 01:09:32,992
♪ Hello?
1562
01:09:33,036 --> 01:09:35,865
- We had almost finished
the record,
1563
01:09:35,908 --> 01:09:38,476
but we didn't have
an album cover.
1564
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,826
Henry, he would hang
out a lot in the studio
1565
01:09:40,870 --> 01:09:43,525
while we were making
that first record.
1566
01:09:43,568 --> 01:09:47,093
- Took them in a car and drove
around West Hollywood.
1567
01:09:47,137 --> 01:09:48,747
We'd just see whatever came up.
1568
01:09:48,791 --> 01:09:51,185
Wherever we were,
we'd turn that into a picture.
1569
01:09:51,228 --> 01:09:53,970
I would just shoot
everything that happened.
1570
01:09:55,363 --> 01:09:57,974
And then we found
this little house.
1571
01:09:58,017 --> 01:10:01,064
The house was empty.
It was kind of boarded up.
1572
01:10:01,107 --> 01:10:02,892
- It was obviously dilapidated.
1573
01:10:02,935 --> 01:10:04,328
It looked as if nobody
had lived there
1574
01:10:04,372 --> 01:10:06,504
for a few years.
It was funky.
1575
01:10:06,548 --> 01:10:08,593
But it suited the music
1576
01:10:08,637 --> 01:10:10,508
that we wanted to present.
1577
01:10:10,552 --> 01:10:13,032
Laid back, denim,
1578
01:10:13,076 --> 01:10:16,688
hippy, long hair, dope,
1579
01:10:16,732 --> 01:10:18,342
that kind of a feeling.
1580
01:10:20,518 --> 01:10:23,434
The next morning,
Henry comes down to the studio
1581
01:10:23,478 --> 01:10:25,219
with the proofs and we go,
1582
01:10:25,262 --> 01:10:29,048
"Shit.
That's the one right there."
1583
01:10:29,092 --> 01:10:31,486
And we're in the wrong order.
1584
01:10:31,529 --> 01:10:33,662
- Nash, Stills, and Crosby,
1585
01:10:33,705 --> 01:10:35,446
well, flip it over,
1586
01:10:35,490 --> 01:10:38,014
but then Stephen would be
playing the guitar backwards.
1587
01:10:38,057 --> 01:10:39,537
That would be a controversy.
1588
01:10:39,581 --> 01:10:42,018
So, I remember saying,
"Well, let's just go back.
1589
01:10:42,061 --> 01:10:43,628
"Jump on the couch
in the right order.
1590
01:10:43,672 --> 01:10:44,716
it'll take five minutes."
1591
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,065
So we went back in the car,
1592
01:10:46,109 --> 01:10:49,068
got there,
and the house was gone.
1593
01:10:49,112 --> 01:10:52,071
- It was bulldozed
into the back of the garden.
1594
01:10:52,115 --> 01:10:55,118
It was just a pile of shit.
1595
01:10:55,161 --> 01:10:58,817
And so we had to use
the cover in the wrong order.
1596
01:11:02,604 --> 01:11:05,955
- Watching those guys discover
their blend was exciting.
1597
01:11:05,998 --> 01:11:07,348
It was boys in love.
1598
01:11:07,391 --> 01:11:10,568
And I introduced them to Elliot,
1599
01:11:10,612 --> 01:11:12,396
so we became a stable.
1600
01:11:12,440 --> 01:11:16,052
- I was managing Joni,
and Crosby, Stills, and Nash.
1601
01:11:16,095 --> 01:11:19,055
I liked working with artists,
and their songs,
1602
01:11:19,098 --> 01:11:21,971
and developing them,
and their show.
1603
01:11:22,014 --> 01:11:24,669
That first album is very unique.
1604
01:11:24,713 --> 01:11:26,715
- That first
Crosby, Stills, & Nash record
1605
01:11:26,758 --> 01:11:30,109
was showing Stephen Stills
to be the genius that he is.
1606
01:11:30,153 --> 01:11:32,068
He played
almost every instrument
1607
01:11:32,111 --> 01:11:33,591
on that first record.
1608
01:11:33,635 --> 01:11:36,072
He played lead guitar,
he played rhythm guitar,
1609
01:11:36,115 --> 01:11:37,552
he played bass, he played piano,
1610
01:11:37,595 --> 01:11:39,989
he played B3,
he played percussion.
1611
01:11:40,032 --> 01:11:42,905
One night, we tried
to cook "Long Time Gone"
1612
01:11:42,948 --> 01:11:44,341
and we weren't getting it.
1613
01:11:44,385 --> 01:11:46,169
He says, "You know what?
Go home. Go."
1614
01:11:46,212 --> 01:11:47,953
And when we came back
the next day,
1615
01:11:47,997 --> 01:11:51,783
he had created the track
to "Long Time Gone."
1616
01:11:51,827 --> 01:11:53,872
["Long Time Gone" playing]
1617
01:11:53,916 --> 01:11:57,485
- ♪ It's been a long
1618
01:11:58,616 --> 01:12:00,618
♪ Time comin'
1619
01:12:00,662 --> 01:12:03,447
- We realized
when the record was number one
1620
01:12:03,491 --> 01:12:05,841
that we would have to go out
and play live.
1621
01:12:05,884 --> 01:12:07,364
Stephen realized
that David and I
1622
01:12:07,408 --> 01:12:09,105
didn't play guitar well enough
1623
01:12:09,148 --> 01:12:10,976
to play lead with him.
1624
01:12:11,020 --> 01:12:13,196
He schemed with Elliot
1625
01:12:13,239 --> 01:12:15,503
and got Neil involved.
1626
01:12:16,417 --> 01:12:18,810
- And I said,
"Wait a second here.
1627
01:12:18,854 --> 01:12:22,074
"We just created
this beautiful harmony sound.
1628
01:12:22,118 --> 01:12:24,250
You wanna add another voice?"
1629
01:12:24,294 --> 01:12:25,643
I knew
that he was a great writer.
1630
01:12:25,687 --> 01:12:27,471
I knew
that he was a fine singer,
1631
01:12:27,515 --> 01:12:29,255
but I said, "Why the fuck
should we invite you
1632
01:12:29,299 --> 01:12:31,083
into this band, Neil?"
1633
01:12:31,127 --> 01:12:32,607
He goes,
"You ever heard me and Stephen
1634
01:12:32,650 --> 01:12:34,348
played guitar together?"
1635
01:12:34,391 --> 01:12:35,218
"Yeah."
1636
01:12:35,261 --> 01:12:37,786
He said, "That's why."
1637
01:12:50,842 --> 01:12:54,803
- Neil joined for the tour.
We did Chicago Auditorium.
1638
01:12:54,846 --> 01:12:57,153
Two nights before Woodstock.
1639
01:13:21,133 --> 01:13:23,353
- The Woodstock...
It's funny.
1640
01:13:23,397 --> 01:13:25,529
That whole thing started
with one of those phone calls
1641
01:13:25,573 --> 01:13:27,705
in my kitchen in Laurel Canyon.
1642
01:13:27,749 --> 01:13:29,533
"Henry, you should be
out here in New York.
1643
01:13:29,577 --> 01:13:32,449
We're gonna have
a huge music concert."
1644
01:13:32,493 --> 01:13:34,408
So I got out there
and spent two weeks
1645
01:13:34,451 --> 01:13:36,758
photographing the building
of the whole stage,
1646
01:13:36,801 --> 01:13:38,237
and the grounds,
1647
01:13:38,281 --> 01:13:40,370
and the concert itself
for three days.
1648
01:13:41,458 --> 01:13:43,417
- Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young.
1649
01:13:43,460 --> 01:13:46,463
We went there on a helicopter.
1650
01:13:46,507 --> 01:13:48,726
We were nearly about to go on.
1651
01:13:48,770 --> 01:13:51,990
Neil said,
"I do not wanna be filmed.
1652
01:13:52,034 --> 01:13:53,992
"Period.
I'm here for a concert.
1653
01:13:54,036 --> 01:13:55,994
"I'm gonna play my ass off
1654
01:13:56,038 --> 01:13:58,170
for the people
that are here."
1655
01:13:59,302 --> 01:14:01,260
So he was never filmed.
1656
01:14:01,304 --> 01:14:05,264
- Ladies and gentleman,
please welcome with us,
1657
01:14:05,308 --> 01:14:09,486
Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young.
1658
01:14:10,661 --> 01:14:13,664
- I remember being terrified.
1659
01:14:13,708 --> 01:14:16,058
But nobody had seen us
try to get up
1660
01:14:16,101 --> 01:14:17,625
and sing harmony together,
1661
01:14:17,668 --> 01:14:19,017
so they all came.
1662
01:14:19,061 --> 01:14:20,497
["Suite: Judy Blue Eyes"
playing]
1663
01:14:20,541 --> 01:14:22,020
♪ It's getting
to the point ♪
1664
01:14:22,064 --> 01:14:26,677
♪ Where I'm no fun anymore
1665
01:14:27,896 --> 01:14:31,421
- ♪ I am sorry...
1666
01:14:32,509 --> 01:14:36,513
- Everybody we thought
was cool in the world
1667
01:14:36,557 --> 01:14:37,775
was standing
1668
01:14:37,819 --> 01:14:40,125
in a huge semicircle behind us.
1669
01:14:40,169 --> 01:14:43,781
- Dead Airplane Band,
Hendricks, Who--
1670
01:14:43,825 --> 01:14:45,783
they were all
standing there on stage.
1671
01:14:45,827 --> 01:14:47,263
If it was gonna collapse,
1672
01:14:47,306 --> 01:14:48,656
that's when
it would've collapsed.
1673
01:15:37,574 --> 01:15:39,184
- Everybody is really excited.
1674
01:15:39,228 --> 01:15:41,056
You know, you're looking going,
1675
01:15:41,099 --> 01:15:43,754
"Wow, we've never seen this
many people at a show before."
1676
01:15:45,626 --> 01:15:47,845
- When it happened
for the first time,
1677
01:15:47,889 --> 01:15:50,195
it was something special,
because there you were,
1678
01:15:50,239 --> 01:15:53,024
and then we're just realizing,
"Hey, we have a generation.
1679
01:15:53,068 --> 01:15:54,678
"We are somebody.
1680
01:15:54,722 --> 01:15:56,724
All of these people
are with us."
1681
01:15:56,767 --> 01:15:58,595
- Standing
on the stage looking out,
1682
01:15:58,639 --> 01:16:00,510
a sea of faces going off
1683
01:16:00,554 --> 01:16:02,947
all the way back to the horizon.
1684
01:16:02,991 --> 01:16:05,515
All the way to the left
and all the way to the right,
1685
01:16:05,559 --> 01:16:07,865
is solid people,
1686
01:16:07,909 --> 01:16:11,565
filling an entire valley,
saying, "Wow."
1687
01:16:11,608 --> 01:16:13,741
That was the feeling
of Woodstock.
1688
01:16:15,525 --> 01:16:17,875
- So the music is part of that.
1689
01:16:17,919 --> 01:16:21,226
The music is not
a commodity or a content.
1690
01:16:21,270 --> 01:16:23,011
The music is the life.
1691
01:16:23,054 --> 01:16:25,491
You're singing your songs
and the people are listening.
1692
01:16:25,535 --> 01:16:27,406
It's going
back and forth right now.
1693
01:16:27,450 --> 01:16:29,452
That's what was so beautiful.
1694
01:16:30,758 --> 01:16:33,717
- There was a feeling going on
with everybody at that point.
1695
01:16:33,761 --> 01:16:37,460
We felt very encouraged
by seeing each other.
1696
01:16:37,503 --> 01:16:40,681
Everybody was thrilled
that there were so many of us.
1697
01:16:41,943 --> 01:16:43,422
We thought, "Hey,
1698
01:16:43,466 --> 01:16:45,381
we're gonna change
everything."
1699
01:16:48,123 --> 01:16:49,777
Didn't work out that way.
1700
01:17:05,923 --> 01:17:09,187
["So You Want to Be
a Rock 'n' Roll Star" playing]
1701
01:17:32,776 --> 01:17:35,474
- ♪ So you want to be
a rock and roll star? ♪
1702
01:17:35,518 --> 01:17:39,043
♪ Then listen now
to what I say ♪
1703
01:17:39,087 --> 01:17:41,567
♪ Just get
an electric guitar ♪
1704
01:17:41,611 --> 01:17:45,528
♪ Then take some time
and learn how to play ♪
1705
01:17:45,571 --> 01:17:48,009
♪ And with your hair
swung right ♪
1706
01:17:48,052 --> 01:17:49,488
♪ And your pants too tight
1707
01:17:49,532 --> 01:17:51,795
♪ It's gonna be all right
1708
01:17:51,839 --> 01:17:54,102
♪ Then it's time
to go downtown ♪
1709
01:17:54,145 --> 01:17:58,193
♪ Where the agent man
won't let you down ♪
1710
01:17:58,236 --> 01:18:00,108
♪ Sell your soul
to the company ♪
1711
01:18:00,151 --> 01:18:04,155
♪ Who are waiting there
to sell plastic ware ♪
1712
01:18:04,199 --> 01:18:07,985
♪ And in a week or two
if you make the charts ♪
1713
01:18:08,029 --> 01:18:10,727
♪ The girls
will tear you apart ♪
1714
01:18:35,230 --> 01:18:37,711
♪ The price you paid
for your riches and fame ♪
1715
01:18:37,754 --> 01:18:39,408
♪ Was it all a strange game?
1716
01:18:39,451 --> 01:18:41,279
♪ You're a little insane
1717
01:18:41,323 --> 01:18:44,195
♪ The money, the fame,
and the public acclaim ♪
1718
01:18:44,239 --> 01:18:45,631
♪ Don't forget who you are
1719
01:18:45,675 --> 01:18:47,764
♪ You're
a rock and roll star ♪
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