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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,785 --> 00:00:08,006 ["Happy Together" playing] 2 00:00:10,965 --> 00:00:12,967 - ♪ Imagine me and you 3 00:00:13,011 --> 00:00:16,405 ♪ I do, I think about you day and night ♪ 4 00:00:16,449 --> 00:00:20,409 ♪ It's only right to think about the girl you love ♪ 5 00:00:20,453 --> 00:00:26,850 ♪ And hold her tight, so happy together ♪ 6 00:00:26,894 --> 00:00:29,940 ♪ If I should call you up, invest a dime ♪ 7 00:00:29,984 --> 00:00:32,508 ♪ And you say you belong to me ♪ 8 00:00:32,552 --> 00:00:34,032 ♪ And ease my mind 9 00:00:34,075 --> 00:00:36,338 ♪ Imagine how the world could be ♪ 10 00:00:36,382 --> 00:00:41,691 ♪ So very fine, so happy together ♪ 11 00:01:01,189 --> 00:01:03,844 - ♪ Me and you and you and me ♪ 12 00:01:03,887 --> 00:01:06,151 ♪ No matter how they toss the dice ♪ 13 00:01:06,194 --> 00:01:10,068 ♪ It had to be the only one for me is you ♪ 14 00:01:10,111 --> 00:01:16,117 ♪ And you for me, so happy together ♪ 15 00:01:16,161 --> 00:01:19,947 ♪ So happy together 16 00:01:19,990 --> 00:01:24,125 ♪ And how is the weather 17 00:01:24,169 --> 00:01:27,824 ♪ So happy together 18 00:01:27,868 --> 00:01:32,133 ♪ We're happy together 19 00:01:32,177 --> 00:01:36,398 ♪ So happy together 20 00:01:36,442 --> 00:01:39,880 ♪ Happy together 21 00:01:39,923 --> 00:01:43,797 ♪ So happy together 22 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,106 ♪ So happy together 23 00:02:04,992 --> 00:02:07,777 - I made a list of everyone I could think of 24 00:02:07,821 --> 00:02:11,129 that I photographed in Laurel Canyon. 25 00:02:29,451 --> 00:02:30,974 A lot of people. 26 00:02:39,113 --> 00:02:41,985 I first came to LA in '63 27 00:02:42,029 --> 00:02:44,423 with a four-part folk group. 28 00:02:44,466 --> 00:02:46,816 We came over to seek our fortunes, 29 00:02:46,860 --> 00:02:48,166 and played at the Troubadour 30 00:02:48,209 --> 00:02:50,211 the second night we were in town. 31 00:02:50,255 --> 00:02:51,560 ["How The West Was Won" playing] 32 00:02:51,604 --> 00:02:54,084 - ♪ I'll bid goodbye 33 00:02:54,128 --> 00:02:56,217 ♪ To the whip and the line 34 00:02:56,261 --> 00:02:58,001 - ♪ Yeah 35 00:02:58,045 --> 00:03:02,005 - ♪ And drive no more in the wintertime ♪ 36 00:03:02,049 --> 00:03:04,182 - Got a manager and a record company 37 00:03:04,225 --> 00:03:07,010 and all that very quickly. 38 00:03:07,054 --> 00:03:09,317 Within a week, I went up to somebody's party 39 00:03:09,361 --> 00:03:11,232 at the Laurel Canyon. 40 00:03:11,276 --> 00:03:14,540 You could see it was a very cool place. 41 00:03:14,583 --> 00:03:17,195 The main boulevard is Laurel Canyon Boulevard, 42 00:03:17,238 --> 00:03:18,892 and it goes from Hollywood, 43 00:03:18,935 --> 00:03:20,328 straight up into the Hollywood Hills, 44 00:03:20,372 --> 00:03:22,417 crests over the top at Mulholland, 45 00:03:22,461 --> 00:03:26,726 and goes down into what they call the Valley. 46 00:03:26,769 --> 00:03:30,208 Off of that main road that curves around a bit, 47 00:03:30,251 --> 00:03:34,255 there are little arteries that go off like Kirkwood 48 00:03:34,299 --> 00:03:36,910 and Lookout Mountain Avenue. 49 00:03:36,953 --> 00:03:38,477 Then you go up those avenues, 50 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:40,870 and there's little capillaries that go off, 51 00:03:40,914 --> 00:03:44,265 Weepah Way and Rosilla Place, 52 00:03:44,309 --> 00:03:46,702 and that's where I first moved to Laurel Canyon. 53 00:03:46,746 --> 00:03:48,878 I had a little one-room studio. 54 00:03:50,402 --> 00:03:51,968 Coyotes at night. 55 00:03:52,012 --> 00:03:54,144 Very quiet except for owl. 56 00:03:57,974 --> 00:03:59,149 Sometimes in the afternoon, 57 00:03:59,193 --> 00:04:01,369 you hear a, like, uh, a solo guitar, 58 00:04:01,413 --> 00:04:03,502 kind of echoing from somewhere in the hillside, 59 00:04:03,545 --> 00:04:06,244 drifting through the Canyon. 60 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,379 ["Mr. Tambourine" playing] 61 00:04:15,601 --> 00:04:17,472 ♪ Play a song for me 62 00:04:17,516 --> 00:04:19,082 - I moved to Laurel Canyon 63 00:04:19,126 --> 00:04:21,433 right after the success of "Mr. Tambourine Man." 64 00:04:21,476 --> 00:04:24,610 - ♪ There ain't no place I'm goin' to ♪ 65 00:04:24,653 --> 00:04:27,961 - I'm up by the market, and I run into this fella. 66 00:04:28,004 --> 00:04:29,745 He was a dentist, a young guy. 67 00:04:29,789 --> 00:04:31,834 And he says, "Are you looking for a place to live?" 68 00:04:31,878 --> 00:04:34,097 And I said, "Yeah." 69 00:04:34,141 --> 00:04:36,491 I go up there, and this house was at the end 70 00:04:36,535 --> 00:04:39,102 of a dirt road at the top of Kirkwood. 71 00:04:39,146 --> 00:04:41,235 And it overlooked the entire city. 72 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:42,802 So you can imagine at night 73 00:04:42,845 --> 00:04:45,021 what that looked like, beautiful. 74 00:04:45,065 --> 00:04:46,980 Rented it, and start furnishing it. 75 00:04:47,023 --> 00:04:48,851 Now I had a house. 76 00:04:48,895 --> 00:04:53,160 At same time, David Crosby moved over to Willow Glen. 77 00:04:53,203 --> 00:04:55,293 Roger lived across the Canyon. 78 00:04:55,989 --> 00:04:58,600 - It was serene, it was beautiful. 79 00:04:58,644 --> 00:05:01,690 Winding, hilly, it was like living in the country, 80 00:05:01,734 --> 00:05:03,344 but you're in a big city. 81 00:05:03,388 --> 00:05:05,477 - The only person who moved there before we did 82 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,784 might have been Zappa. 83 00:05:08,828 --> 00:05:10,220 It wasn't a scene yet. 84 00:05:10,264 --> 00:05:12,135 It was just a better place to live, 85 00:05:12,179 --> 00:05:16,052 above the smog. It was so magical. 86 00:05:16,096 --> 00:05:17,880 Literally, within four, five minutes, 87 00:05:17,924 --> 00:05:20,753 you could be down on the Sunset Strip into Hollywood. 88 00:05:20,796 --> 00:05:23,756 ["You Showed Me" playing] 89 00:05:28,761 --> 00:05:30,806 - ♪ You showed me how to do 90 00:05:30,850 --> 00:05:34,767 ♪ Exactly what to do how I fell in love with you ♪ 91 00:05:34,810 --> 00:05:39,467 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, it's true, Oh, oh, I love you ♪ 92 00:05:39,511 --> 00:05:41,382 - Rock harmonies were going folk, you see, 93 00:05:41,426 --> 00:05:44,429 and we were doing rock and roll inspired folk music. 94 00:05:44,472 --> 00:05:47,736 - ♪ You showed me how to say exactly what to say ♪ 95 00:05:47,780 --> 00:05:50,522 - We did songs that were entirely different 96 00:05:50,565 --> 00:05:52,350 from anything anybody had tried before. 97 00:05:52,393 --> 00:05:54,308 - ♪ Oh, oh, oh, it's true 98 00:05:54,352 --> 00:05:56,266 - We wanted to stretch. 99 00:05:56,310 --> 00:05:58,181 We wanted to push back the barriers. 100 00:05:58,225 --> 00:06:00,662 We wanted to be the innovators. 101 00:06:00,706 --> 00:06:03,491 - The Byrds--they were a major influence 102 00:06:03,535 --> 00:06:06,276 on everybody in Hollywood, really. 103 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,367 Even though we had been together for quite some time, 104 00:06:09,410 --> 00:06:12,892 we were initially trying to be a clone of The Byrds. 105 00:06:12,935 --> 00:06:14,197 - I knew I could do the things 106 00:06:14,241 --> 00:06:16,025 that I saw The Byrds doing. 107 00:06:16,069 --> 00:06:18,114 Packin' the house every night, all these people jumping up 108 00:06:18,158 --> 00:06:20,290 and carrying on. So then I jumped on the wagon. 109 00:06:20,334 --> 00:06:23,076 I said, "I'm gonna do this thing until I'm capable 110 00:06:23,119 --> 00:06:24,512 of doing my thing." 111 00:06:24,556 --> 00:06:25,905 ["The Devil Went Down to Georgia" playing] 112 00:06:25,948 --> 00:06:27,515 - ♪ I went to Georgia 113 00:06:27,559 --> 00:06:30,431 ♪ I went to Florida, I went to Missi ♪ 114 00:06:30,475 --> 00:06:32,390 ♪ Tripped in Missippi, but now you... ♪ 115 00:06:32,433 --> 00:06:34,000 - There was four of them, and I made the fifth 116 00:06:34,043 --> 00:06:35,523 when I joined the group, and I said, 117 00:06:35,567 --> 00:06:37,395 "I hear you're looking for a rhythm guitarist. 118 00:06:37,438 --> 00:06:39,614 I'd give my right arm to be in your group." 119 00:06:39,658 --> 00:06:41,573 Arthur said, "No, you're gonna need it." 120 00:06:44,010 --> 00:06:47,709 - Bryn McLean lived right down the street from me. 121 00:06:47,753 --> 00:06:50,886 We lived there because mostly other musicians 122 00:06:50,930 --> 00:06:54,716 and artists lived there, and also because it was cheap. 123 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,154 We used to call it Oz. 124 00:06:58,198 --> 00:06:59,982 The people that came to the clubs 125 00:07:00,026 --> 00:07:01,810 would just follow us into our houses, 126 00:07:01,854 --> 00:07:04,944 and we'd continue playing all night. 127 00:07:04,987 --> 00:07:08,121 - Once you got above 20 or 30 of us living up there, 128 00:07:08,164 --> 00:07:09,601 it was a kind of a community. 129 00:07:09,644 --> 00:07:11,167 We would go around and visit each other 130 00:07:11,211 --> 00:07:12,734 quite a bit. 131 00:07:12,778 --> 00:07:14,693 - David Crosby was quite near us, 132 00:07:14,736 --> 00:07:17,260 and gave us some pretty good advice. 133 00:07:17,304 --> 00:07:20,089 "Johnny, there's already one Byrds, 134 00:07:20,133 --> 00:07:22,309 so if you guys wanna make it, 135 00:07:22,352 --> 00:07:26,835 you're gonna have to come up with your own sound." 136 00:07:26,879 --> 00:07:28,315 In elementary school, 137 00:07:28,358 --> 00:07:30,448 one of the kids had a guitar, 138 00:07:30,491 --> 00:07:32,580 and he allowed me to hold it. 139 00:07:32,624 --> 00:07:35,191 I started strumming it, and the vibration 140 00:07:35,235 --> 00:07:37,411 just kind of tickled my soul. 141 00:07:37,455 --> 00:07:41,502 That was a love affair that's lasted to this day. 142 00:07:41,546 --> 00:07:43,286 I started playing the guitar, 143 00:07:43,330 --> 00:07:44,940 and I heard Arthur sing. 144 00:07:44,984 --> 00:07:49,031 He was also a poet, and so, we played together, 145 00:07:49,075 --> 00:07:51,381 and we had so many different names 146 00:07:51,425 --> 00:07:54,341 before we became Love. 147 00:07:54,384 --> 00:07:56,691 We just loved music. 148 00:07:56,735 --> 00:07:59,520 We would pick up little snippets of songs 149 00:07:59,564 --> 00:08:03,176 from here, or styles from there. 150 00:08:03,219 --> 00:08:06,266 Little Richard also was in the area, 151 00:08:06,309 --> 00:08:08,224 and he would give me advice 152 00:08:08,268 --> 00:08:10,575 and hints and stuff like that. 153 00:08:10,618 --> 00:08:15,231 In 1964, I went to England with Little Richard. 154 00:08:15,275 --> 00:08:16,929 ["Lucille" playing] 155 00:08:16,972 --> 00:08:18,887 - ♪ Lucille 156 00:08:18,931 --> 00:08:21,063 ♪ Why won't you do your sisters will? ♪ 157 00:08:21,107 --> 00:08:23,805 - We met these four guys there, and they used to follow 158 00:08:23,849 --> 00:08:26,808 Richard around, fawning and deferential, 159 00:08:26,852 --> 00:08:29,507 sycophants, as far as I could see. 160 00:08:31,117 --> 00:08:33,206 Later on in Los Angeles, 161 00:08:33,249 --> 00:08:35,904 I was invited to see The Beatles. 162 00:08:35,948 --> 00:08:37,732 I didn't believe it. 163 00:08:37,776 --> 00:08:40,648 These little guys that ran around, chasing Richard, 164 00:08:40,692 --> 00:08:43,825 are the biggest thing in the world. 165 00:08:43,869 --> 00:08:46,001 - The Beatles. Wow. 166 00:08:46,045 --> 00:08:47,786 It was a huge experience of life. 167 00:08:47,829 --> 00:08:51,224 We wanted every day to be a huge experience of life. 168 00:08:51,267 --> 00:08:53,356 So, when the Beatles played Ed Sullivan, 169 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,751 all the folk groups went electric. 170 00:08:56,795 --> 00:08:58,840 We traded our stand up bass 171 00:08:58,884 --> 00:09:00,189 into an electric bass. 172 00:09:00,233 --> 00:09:01,843 We electrified our acoustic guitars. 173 00:09:01,887 --> 00:09:05,281 I electrified my banjo, and we got a drummer. 174 00:09:05,325 --> 00:09:09,068 ♪ why I waited around ♪ 175 00:09:09,111 --> 00:09:13,072 ♪ I wasn't running around put me down ♪ 176 00:09:13,115 --> 00:09:14,682 - That's the kind of music we wanna make. 177 00:09:14,726 --> 00:09:17,032 What are we singing about the Ox Driver for? 178 00:09:17,076 --> 00:09:18,381 We could be-- 179 00:09:18,425 --> 00:09:21,384 we could be making joyful music. 180 00:09:21,428 --> 00:09:23,386 We were booked into the Troubadour, 181 00:09:23,430 --> 00:09:25,040 doing our sound check, and we plugged in 182 00:09:25,084 --> 00:09:26,433 our electric instruments, 183 00:09:26,476 --> 00:09:28,217 and Doug Weston came running down 184 00:09:28,261 --> 00:09:29,349 from the upstairs. 185 00:09:29,392 --> 00:09:31,307 "No, no, what are you doing? 186 00:09:31,351 --> 00:09:33,875 "I don't have electric music in this club. 187 00:09:33,919 --> 00:09:35,834 You know, this is a folk club." 188 00:09:35,877 --> 00:09:37,879 - The Troubadour, just a few blocks 189 00:09:37,923 --> 00:09:39,272 from Hollywood Boulevard, 190 00:09:39,315 --> 00:09:42,405 is known as an avant-garde café. 191 00:09:42,449 --> 00:09:45,191 Sundays and Mondays are Hoot nights, Hootenanny, 192 00:09:45,234 --> 00:09:47,367 that is, and the entertainment features 193 00:09:47,410 --> 00:09:49,151 half a dozen or more performers, 194 00:09:49,195 --> 00:09:51,240 who specialize in folk music. 195 00:09:51,284 --> 00:09:52,677 - The folk community back then 196 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,114 were snobbish about electric music. 197 00:09:55,157 --> 00:09:58,247 They considered it bubblegum, kid stuff. 198 00:09:58,291 --> 00:09:59,901 I was opening up for Hoyt Axton, 199 00:09:59,945 --> 00:10:02,991 playing folk songs with a Beatle beat, 200 00:10:03,035 --> 00:10:05,428 and the only person who liked it was Gene Clark. 201 00:10:05,472 --> 00:10:07,517 He came backstage after my set, and said, 202 00:10:07,561 --> 00:10:08,997 "Hey, I get what you're doing. 203 00:10:09,041 --> 00:10:10,738 "I like The Beatles, I like folk music. 204 00:10:10,782 --> 00:10:12,348 Let's write some songs, and see what happens." 205 00:10:14,742 --> 00:10:16,570 - That's when I met Roger and Gene. 206 00:10:16,614 --> 00:10:18,528 They were singing songs, and I started singing 207 00:10:18,572 --> 00:10:20,269 harmony to them. They liked that. 208 00:10:20,313 --> 00:10:24,883 - ♪ You showed me how to do exactly what you do ♪ 209 00:10:24,926 --> 00:10:27,842 ♪ How I fell in love with you Oh, oh, oh, it's true ♪ 210 00:10:27,886 --> 00:10:29,888 - David knew this guy who had a recording studio 211 00:10:29,931 --> 00:10:32,804 we could use, Jim Dickson, and he became our manager, 212 00:10:32,847 --> 00:10:35,197 and we got Michael Clarke and Chris Hillman 213 00:10:35,241 --> 00:10:36,808 to join the group. 214 00:10:36,851 --> 00:10:38,636 - There wasn't a lot in common with each of us, 215 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,812 but we had all come out of folk music. 216 00:10:40,855 --> 00:10:43,641 We were not a garage rock and roll band. 217 00:10:43,684 --> 00:10:45,294 We didn't have a blueprint. 218 00:10:45,338 --> 00:10:46,948 We didn't know what we were doing. 219 00:10:46,992 --> 00:10:49,647 The Byrds needed something to get us in the door. 220 00:10:52,432 --> 00:10:54,216 - Randomly, Jim Dickson heard a couple 221 00:10:54,260 --> 00:10:55,522 of record producers 222 00:10:55,565 --> 00:10:57,263 mainly talking about Bob Dylan. 223 00:10:57,306 --> 00:10:59,787 "Wow, it's a shame, Bob can't use that great new song 224 00:10:59,831 --> 00:11:01,789 you just wrote, because Ramblin' Jack Elliott, 225 00:11:01,833 --> 00:11:03,269 he was singing out of tune on it." 226 00:11:03,312 --> 00:11:05,140 ["Mr. Tambourine Man" playing] 227 00:11:05,184 --> 00:11:08,883 - ♪ Hey, Mr. Tambourine man, play a song for me ♪ 228 00:11:08,927 --> 00:11:11,973 - Bob--he never overdubbed, he just turned on the machine, 229 00:11:12,017 --> 00:11:13,975 and whatever happened happened. 230 00:11:14,019 --> 00:11:17,500 So, he decided not to use it, wouldn't go back and fix it. 231 00:11:17,544 --> 00:11:19,981 Dixon got a copy of this demo, and it was flawed, 232 00:11:20,025 --> 00:11:21,722 it couldn't be released. 233 00:11:21,766 --> 00:11:23,506 - Initially, "Mr. Tambourine Man," 234 00:11:23,550 --> 00:11:25,987 we didn't like it. And then he sat us down, 235 00:11:26,031 --> 00:11:28,990 said, "What you guys need to do is put some substance 236 00:11:29,034 --> 00:11:30,644 "and depth into your songs. 237 00:11:30,688 --> 00:11:32,820 "You wanna make a record that you're gonna like 238 00:11:32,864 --> 00:11:34,648 in 40 years." 239 00:11:36,041 --> 00:11:39,000 ["Mr. Tambourine Man" playing] 240 00:11:44,397 --> 00:11:48,401 - ♪ Hey! Mr. Tambourine man 241 00:11:48,444 --> 00:11:51,404 ♪ Play a song for me 242 00:11:51,447 --> 00:11:56,061 ♪ I'm not sleepy and there ain't no place ♪ 243 00:11:56,104 --> 00:11:59,281 ♪ I'm going to 244 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,762 - I remember Bob came to Ciro's, and said, 245 00:12:01,806 --> 00:12:03,546 "Wow, man, you can dance to it." 246 00:12:03,590 --> 00:12:06,680 He got on stage with us. 247 00:12:06,724 --> 00:12:08,856 - He loved what we did with "Tambourine Man." 248 00:12:08,900 --> 00:12:11,729 We took it, and we changed the groove. 249 00:12:11,772 --> 00:12:14,340 - The next day, everybody in this town 250 00:12:14,383 --> 00:12:15,907 was talking about, 251 00:12:15,950 --> 00:12:17,778 "Hey, have you seen this band, The Byrds, man? 252 00:12:17,822 --> 00:12:20,825 I heard Dylan showed up there the other night." 253 00:12:20,868 --> 00:12:22,740 - People start coming in. Word of mouth, 254 00:12:22,783 --> 00:12:24,480 word of mouth, word of mouth. 255 00:12:24,524 --> 00:12:26,134 All of a sudden, people are lining up 256 00:12:26,178 --> 00:12:29,355 after about the second, third week we were there. 257 00:12:31,923 --> 00:12:34,229 - It was every young band's dream 258 00:12:34,273 --> 00:12:36,449 to catch fire, 259 00:12:36,492 --> 00:12:39,278 to become the subject of conversation. 260 00:12:41,106 --> 00:12:42,934 It was completely exciting, 261 00:12:42,977 --> 00:12:46,285 and I was a kid, and kids live on excitement. 262 00:12:47,416 --> 00:12:49,070 ["Mr. Tambourine Man playing] 263 00:12:49,114 --> 00:12:52,421 - ♪ In the jingle jangle morning ♪ 264 00:12:52,465 --> 00:12:56,948 ♪ I'll come following you 265 00:12:56,991 --> 00:13:00,255 - When I heard that music, here's this electric version 266 00:13:00,299 --> 00:13:01,953 of this song, 267 00:13:01,996 --> 00:13:03,824 it really inspired me 268 00:13:03,868 --> 00:13:07,219 to go to California to start a band. 269 00:13:18,839 --> 00:13:20,885 - This is the Buffalo Springfield. 270 00:13:20,928 --> 00:13:23,844 Brennan Stone say they'll be giant stars. 271 00:13:23,888 --> 00:13:27,152 It's up to you to make them such. 272 00:13:27,195 --> 00:13:28,327 - My name is Neil Young. 273 00:13:28,370 --> 00:13:29,676 - Hi, Neil. How do you do? 274 00:13:29,719 --> 00:13:31,330 - I'm lead guitar player. How do you do? 275 00:13:31,373 --> 00:13:33,245 - All right. - Uh, this is Richie Furay. 276 00:13:33,288 --> 00:13:34,724 - Hello, Richie. Nice to see you. 277 00:13:34,768 --> 00:13:36,248 - Good ol' Richie from Yellow Springs, Ohio. 278 00:13:36,291 --> 00:13:38,816 - Up in the back? - Big Dewey Martin. 279 00:13:38,859 --> 00:13:40,208 - Hello, Dewey. 280 00:13:40,252 --> 00:13:42,471 - Bruce Palmer from Toronto, Canada. 281 00:13:42,515 --> 00:13:43,777 Steve Stills from New Orleans. 282 00:13:43,821 --> 00:13:45,474 - Hello, Steve. Nice to see you. 283 00:13:45,518 --> 00:13:47,650 How does three Canadians and a couple of other fellas 284 00:13:47,694 --> 00:13:49,391 all fall in together? How did that happen? 285 00:13:49,435 --> 00:13:51,089 - I'd-- - They were-- 286 00:13:51,132 --> 00:13:53,439 - We knew each other from New York, 287 00:13:53,482 --> 00:13:54,919 from folk music. 288 00:13:56,224 --> 00:14:00,054 We decided we were gonna go out to California, 289 00:14:00,098 --> 00:14:01,751 Stephen and I first, 290 00:14:02,709 --> 00:14:04,058 and then Neil Young-- 291 00:14:04,102 --> 00:14:06,495 he came down to Los Angeles later on, 292 00:14:06,539 --> 00:14:07,888 but he couldn't find us. 293 00:14:07,932 --> 00:14:10,630 And so, he was actually leaving, 294 00:14:10,673 --> 00:14:13,372 going west on Sunset Boulevard. 295 00:14:13,415 --> 00:14:15,678 Stephen and I were going east. 296 00:14:15,722 --> 00:14:17,811 - And I saw him in a band 297 00:14:17,855 --> 00:14:19,334 going the other way on Sunset, 298 00:14:19,378 --> 00:14:21,249 and he stopped, and we stopped, 299 00:14:21,293 --> 00:14:23,425 and we all stopped, and then we started. 300 00:14:23,469 --> 00:14:25,514 - About three or four days after that, 301 00:14:25,558 --> 00:14:26,994 we found a drummer. 302 00:14:27,038 --> 00:14:29,605 It just all happened very fast. 303 00:14:29,649 --> 00:14:31,520 - It's a question of, okay, fellas. 304 00:14:31,564 --> 00:14:33,174 Let's get real. 305 00:14:33,218 --> 00:14:35,829 Let's do it right, professional, 306 00:14:35,873 --> 00:14:39,528 and without losing the magic of the music. 307 00:14:39,572 --> 00:14:41,704 - I ran into the Buffalo Springfield 308 00:14:41,748 --> 00:14:43,750 before they had any work in LA. 309 00:14:43,793 --> 00:14:45,186 They had just gotten together, 310 00:14:45,230 --> 00:14:47,885 and I got them a job at the Whisky. 311 00:14:47,928 --> 00:14:49,843 I'm a 23-year-old kid, and I said, 312 00:14:49,887 --> 00:14:52,106 "Will you hire these guys, and they're a great band. 313 00:14:52,150 --> 00:14:53,238 Trust me." 314 00:14:53,281 --> 00:14:56,241 ["Mr. Soul" playing] 315 00:14:59,766 --> 00:15:01,637 - ♪ Oh, hello, Mr. Soul 316 00:15:01,681 --> 00:15:05,119 ♪ I dropped by to pick up a reason ♪ 317 00:15:06,642 --> 00:15:09,602 ♪ For the thought that I caught that my head ♪ 318 00:15:09,645 --> 00:15:12,735 ♪ Is the event of the season 319 00:15:13,954 --> 00:15:17,218 ♪ Why in crowds just a trace of my face ♪ 320 00:15:17,262 --> 00:15:20,047 ♪ Could seem so pleasing 321 00:15:21,309 --> 00:15:23,094 ♪ I'll cop out to the change 322 00:15:23,137 --> 00:15:24,878 ♪ But a stranger is putting the tease on ♪ 323 00:15:24,922 --> 00:15:27,881 - We were playing in the Whisky a Go Go. 324 00:15:27,925 --> 00:15:29,839 We ended up being on a double bill 325 00:15:29,883 --> 00:15:32,190 with The Doors and with Love. 326 00:15:32,233 --> 00:15:35,236 - ♪ I was down on a frown when the messenger ♪ 327 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,108 ♪ Brought me a letter - ♪ Brought me a letter 328 00:15:37,151 --> 00:15:39,675 - At the time, it seemed like such a big place. 329 00:15:39,719 --> 00:15:42,243 - ♪ I was raised by the praise of a fan ♪ 330 00:15:42,287 --> 00:15:44,593 ♪ Who said I upset her - ♪ Who said I upset her 331 00:15:44,637 --> 00:15:45,812 - The Beach Boys were happening, 332 00:15:45,855 --> 00:15:47,466 The Turtles were happening. 333 00:15:47,509 --> 00:15:50,425 When they recorded "Happy Together" was the time 334 00:15:50,469 --> 00:15:51,818 I lived with Mark Volman 335 00:15:51,861 --> 00:15:54,342 up on Lookout Mountain. 336 00:15:54,386 --> 00:15:56,997 - ♪ She said, "You're strange, but don't change." ♪ 337 00:15:57,041 --> 00:15:59,565 - You didn't move there because you were wealthy. 338 00:15:59,608 --> 00:16:01,697 You moved there because it was right 339 00:16:01,741 --> 00:16:03,308 in the middle of town, 340 00:16:03,351 --> 00:16:05,701 but was really cheap to live. 341 00:16:05,745 --> 00:16:07,965 Richie stayed there about a year, 342 00:16:08,008 --> 00:16:10,532 then moved down the street. 343 00:16:10,576 --> 00:16:12,447 - Laurel Canyon was a place people 344 00:16:12,491 --> 00:16:13,883 were attracted to. 345 00:16:13,927 --> 00:16:15,363 It was like a magnet. 346 00:16:15,407 --> 00:16:18,584 Neil Young, when he lived up Kirkwood, 347 00:16:18,627 --> 00:16:21,021 we were creative people. We were young. 348 00:16:21,065 --> 00:16:23,981 We were ambitious. We loved the music. 349 00:16:26,157 --> 00:16:28,550 - Okay. We're rolling. Take four. 350 00:16:28,594 --> 00:16:30,726 - We weren't required to make one song 351 00:16:30,770 --> 00:16:32,728 sound like another song. 352 00:16:33,860 --> 00:16:35,601 We did have our freedom. 353 00:16:35,644 --> 00:16:36,732 There was folk music. 354 00:16:36,776 --> 00:16:38,125 There was country music. 355 00:16:38,169 --> 00:16:40,649 Our style of rockabilly music. 356 00:16:40,693 --> 00:16:43,130 Stephen will do a Spanish song, 357 00:16:43,174 --> 00:16:45,132 a bluegrass type song. 358 00:16:45,176 --> 00:16:47,439 The spectrum that we covered 359 00:16:47,482 --> 00:16:48,744 was incredible. 360 00:16:48,788 --> 00:16:50,311 ["Broken Arrow" playing] 361 00:16:50,355 --> 00:16:54,141 - ♪ Come to see her in the river ♪ 362 00:16:54,185 --> 00:16:58,493 ♪ She'll be there to wave to you ♪ 363 00:16:58,537 --> 00:17:00,234 ♪ In the hope that you'll forgive her ♪ 364 00:17:00,278 --> 00:17:02,845 - We were just three individual songwriters, 365 00:17:02,889 --> 00:17:05,326 Neil Young, Stephen Stills, and myself, 366 00:17:05,370 --> 00:17:07,502 writing from different perspectives, 367 00:17:07,546 --> 00:17:09,026 bringing that together, 368 00:17:09,069 --> 00:17:10,375 and that's what collectively 369 00:17:10,418 --> 00:17:12,725 made us Buffalo Springfield. 370 00:17:14,074 --> 00:17:18,644 - ♪ Find out that now was the answer to answers ♪ 371 00:17:18,687 --> 00:17:22,952 ♪ That you gave later 372 00:17:22,996 --> 00:17:27,435 ♪ She did the things that we both did before ♪ 373 00:17:27,479 --> 00:17:30,047 ♪ Now and who forgave her? 374 00:17:30,090 --> 00:17:31,526 - I had a really good relationship 375 00:17:31,570 --> 00:17:33,572 with the Buffalo Springfield. 376 00:17:33,615 --> 00:17:35,269 I always had fun with them. 377 00:17:37,184 --> 00:17:40,187 They were the house band for a while at the Whisky. 378 00:17:40,231 --> 00:17:42,276 Packed every night. 379 00:17:44,844 --> 00:17:48,717 I genuinely love the music. 380 00:17:49,979 --> 00:17:52,460 I got here in '66, 381 00:17:52,504 --> 00:17:55,333 just past the folky scene. 382 00:17:55,376 --> 00:17:57,596 At first, I was considered a groupie, 383 00:17:57,639 --> 00:17:59,119 for sure. 384 00:17:59,163 --> 00:18:01,208 Then I got jobs at the Troubadour 385 00:18:01,252 --> 00:18:03,515 and at the Whisky doing the lights. 386 00:18:03,558 --> 00:18:05,125 I had to interact 387 00:18:05,169 --> 00:18:07,475 with the musicians in terms of, 388 00:18:07,519 --> 00:18:09,042 you know, setting the lights, 389 00:18:09,086 --> 00:18:11,479 the sound, and the shows, 390 00:18:11,523 --> 00:18:15,614 so I wasn't as much of a groupie anymore, you know. 391 00:18:15,657 --> 00:18:18,834 Uh, I had a legitimate job. 392 00:18:18,878 --> 00:18:21,750 I just carried my camera everywhere I went, 393 00:18:21,794 --> 00:18:23,274 enjoyed taking the pictures. 394 00:18:23,317 --> 00:18:26,538 I wanted to document what I was seeing, 395 00:18:26,581 --> 00:18:28,192 not having any idea 396 00:18:28,235 --> 00:18:31,195 that this would be interesting to somebody else. 397 00:18:33,675 --> 00:18:38,376 - ♪ She did the things that we both did before now ♪ 398 00:18:38,419 --> 00:18:43,250 ♪ And who forgave her? 399 00:18:43,294 --> 00:18:44,991 - This is The Doors. 400 00:18:45,992 --> 00:18:48,255 Jim was a great guy. I really liked him. 401 00:18:48,299 --> 00:18:50,127 He really had charisma on the stage. 402 00:18:50,170 --> 00:18:51,954 ["When The Music's Over" playing] 403 00:18:51,998 --> 00:18:57,090 - ♪ Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection ♪ 404 00:19:00,528 --> 00:19:06,360 ♪ Send my credentials to the House of Detention ♪ 405 00:19:09,276 --> 00:19:14,847 ♪ I got some friends inside 406 00:19:18,242 --> 00:19:19,678 - The Doors were the house band 407 00:19:19,721 --> 00:19:20,809 at the Whisky a Go Go. 408 00:19:20,853 --> 00:19:22,289 We were the opening act. 409 00:19:22,333 --> 00:19:23,986 God, it was amazing. 410 00:19:24,030 --> 00:19:26,946 Then we played with Love, Buffalo Springfield, 411 00:19:26,989 --> 00:19:28,991 The Turtles. 412 00:19:29,035 --> 00:19:31,559 - All of a sudden, you had groups like The Doors 413 00:19:31,603 --> 00:19:33,213 that really brought 414 00:19:33,257 --> 00:19:37,478 a whole different mood to everything. 415 00:19:43,180 --> 00:19:45,573 - There were no rules anymore. 416 00:19:45,617 --> 00:19:49,055 It was a good time to be starting a band. 417 00:19:50,883 --> 00:19:52,928 - At the time, The Doors were looked at 418 00:19:52,972 --> 00:19:56,715 by some people as a gloom and doom band. 419 00:19:56,758 --> 00:19:58,238 ["Light My Fire" playing] 420 00:19:58,282 --> 00:20:00,197 - ♪ Come on, baby, light my fire ♪ 421 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,069 - When in fact, The Doors were about joy, 422 00:20:03,112 --> 00:20:05,724 light, Light My Fire, 423 00:20:05,767 --> 00:20:07,508 burning up in existence. 424 00:20:07,552 --> 00:20:09,380 -♪ Fire. Yeah 425 00:20:12,905 --> 00:20:15,908 - I think we're the band you love to hate, 426 00:20:15,951 --> 00:20:18,127 universally despised. 427 00:20:18,171 --> 00:20:20,391 We're on a monstrous ego trip. 428 00:20:20,434 --> 00:20:23,045 They hate us because we're so good. 429 00:20:23,089 --> 00:20:25,178 - You want people to like you? 430 00:20:25,222 --> 00:20:28,050 - Well, I'd like them to listen. 431 00:20:28,094 --> 00:20:31,750 I'd like them to, uh, give the music a chance. 432 00:20:31,793 --> 00:20:34,927 - ♪ Try to set the night on fire ♪ 433 00:20:36,581 --> 00:20:38,365 - I mean, we knew our stuff was good. 434 00:20:38,409 --> 00:20:40,933 As good as anybody's, but that doesn't always 435 00:20:40,976 --> 00:20:43,457 translate into getting big. 436 00:20:43,501 --> 00:20:45,067 Who was gonna sign us? 437 00:20:46,417 --> 00:20:48,549 - The whole transition from folk music 438 00:20:48,593 --> 00:20:51,291 to singer-songwriters was working itself out, 439 00:20:51,335 --> 00:20:53,075 and there were not that many artists 440 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,034 I wanted to record. 441 00:20:55,077 --> 00:20:57,036 I was looking for a new direction, 442 00:20:57,079 --> 00:20:58,733 and I came out here. 443 00:20:58,777 --> 00:21:01,127 I would get a free magazine, and I'd go through all 444 00:21:01,170 --> 00:21:04,609 the ads, and I came to one that said Love. 445 00:21:04,652 --> 00:21:07,873 ["Hey Joe" playing] 446 00:21:07,916 --> 00:21:09,788 - ♪ Hey, Joe 447 00:21:09,831 --> 00:21:12,573 ♪ Where you going with all that money in your hand now ♪ 448 00:21:12,617 --> 00:21:14,401 - I was gripped by the music. 449 00:21:14,445 --> 00:21:16,185 - ♪ Well, I said, hey, Joe, where are you goin'... ♪ 450 00:21:16,229 --> 00:21:18,318 - I went backstage and made them an offer, 451 00:21:18,362 --> 00:21:20,189 said, "We've never done rock and roll. 452 00:21:20,233 --> 00:21:22,496 You strike me as a good place to start." 453 00:21:22,540 --> 00:21:26,457 - ♪ She's been runnin' around with some other man now ♪ 454 00:21:26,500 --> 00:21:28,328 ♪ Well, I said, I'm goin' after my woman ♪ 455 00:21:28,372 --> 00:21:30,330 - We had been offered a contract by Capitol 456 00:21:30,374 --> 00:21:33,115 and Columbia, and a couple of other labels, 457 00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:36,989 but they wouldn't allow us to own the publishing. 458 00:21:37,032 --> 00:21:38,512 Little Richard had told me 459 00:21:38,556 --> 00:21:40,906 that's where most of the money comes from, 460 00:21:40,949 --> 00:21:42,299 owning the copyrights 461 00:21:42,342 --> 00:21:44,170 and the publishing for your songs, 462 00:21:44,213 --> 00:21:45,824 because if someone else records them, you get paid, 463 00:21:45,867 --> 00:21:49,088 or if they're used in a commercial, you get paid. 464 00:21:49,131 --> 00:21:51,569 Elektra allowed us to own the publishing. 465 00:21:51,612 --> 00:21:56,356 That's why we signed up with a relatively unknown folk label. 466 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,011 - If you can come up with a distinctive sound in music, 467 00:21:59,054 --> 00:22:01,100 your chances of getting a hit are a lot better. 468 00:22:01,143 --> 00:22:03,624 This certainly has what's called a distinctive sound, 469 00:22:03,668 --> 00:22:05,147 the sound of "My Little Red Book." 470 00:22:05,191 --> 00:22:06,845 Again, here's Love. 471 00:22:06,888 --> 00:22:09,500 ["My Little Red Book" playing] 472 00:22:09,543 --> 00:22:12,416 - ♪ I just got out my little red book ♪ 473 00:22:12,459 --> 00:22:17,029 ♪ The minute that you said goodbye ♪ 474 00:22:17,072 --> 00:22:19,336 ♪ I thumbed right through my little red book ♪ 475 00:22:19,379 --> 00:22:21,729 ♪ I wasn't gonna sit and cry 476 00:22:21,773 --> 00:22:25,124 - " My Little Red Book" was a national hit. 477 00:22:25,167 --> 00:22:27,692 What Arthur and the guys did with that adaptation 478 00:22:27,735 --> 00:22:29,258 was genius. 479 00:22:29,302 --> 00:22:30,825 We all felt that it was only a matter of time 480 00:22:30,869 --> 00:22:32,610 until Love conquered America. 481 00:22:32,653 --> 00:22:34,002 - ♪ And as I held them 482 00:22:34,046 --> 00:22:36,222 ♪ All I did was to talk about you ♪ 483 00:22:36,265 --> 00:22:38,616 ♪ Hear your name and I'd start to cry ♪ 484 00:22:38,659 --> 00:22:42,315 ♪ There's just no getting over you ♪ 485 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,797 - We had an issue playing other places 486 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,016 that heard us professionally. 487 00:22:48,060 --> 00:22:50,236 We couldn't play in the South and all, 488 00:22:50,279 --> 00:22:51,629 because when they found out 489 00:22:51,672 --> 00:22:53,848 the racial makeup of the group, 490 00:22:53,892 --> 00:22:55,459 they would cancel bookings, 491 00:22:55,502 --> 00:23:00,115 or sometimes we wouldn't even get them at all. 492 00:23:00,159 --> 00:23:02,640 So we were not happy with Elektra Records 493 00:23:02,683 --> 00:23:03,989 because of the first album. 494 00:23:04,032 --> 00:23:05,860 We thought it was done cheaply, 495 00:23:05,904 --> 00:23:07,775 and MCA came to us 496 00:23:07,819 --> 00:23:10,691 and offered us a really tremendous deal. 497 00:23:10,735 --> 00:23:13,520 But we knew Elektra wasn't gonna let us go. 498 00:23:13,564 --> 00:23:16,175 We were their ticket into the game. 499 00:23:16,218 --> 00:23:18,307 We were the first, and at that point, 500 00:23:18,351 --> 00:23:20,919 the only rock group they had. 501 00:23:20,962 --> 00:23:23,443 Our songs were moving up the charts, 502 00:23:23,487 --> 00:23:25,967 and they were doing well with us. 503 00:23:26,011 --> 00:23:28,405 We knew that was a non-starter, 504 00:23:28,448 --> 00:23:32,278 so Arthur and I came up with the brilliant idea. 505 00:23:32,321 --> 00:23:35,237 If we hooked them up with The Doors, 506 00:23:35,281 --> 00:23:37,239 they would let us go. 507 00:23:37,283 --> 00:23:39,546 Because The Doors had a good following at the Whisky, 508 00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:43,289 and the young girls just love Jim. 509 00:23:43,332 --> 00:23:46,988 But it was problematic, because Jim would get drunk. 510 00:23:47,032 --> 00:23:49,077 Playing on stage was kind of 511 00:23:49,121 --> 00:23:50,644 a problem with the venues, 512 00:23:50,688 --> 00:23:52,341 and members of his group, 513 00:23:52,385 --> 00:23:54,561 but we asked Jack to come down. 514 00:23:54,605 --> 00:23:56,084 ["Lucille" playing] 515 00:23:56,128 --> 00:23:58,347 - ♪ Lucille 516 00:23:58,391 --> 00:24:02,482 ♪ Won't you do your sister's will ♪ 517 00:24:02,526 --> 00:24:04,223 - Jim, true to form, was drunk, 518 00:24:04,266 --> 00:24:06,530 and stumbling around the stage. 519 00:24:06,573 --> 00:24:07,748 - I didn't get it. 520 00:24:07,792 --> 00:24:09,141 I was tired. 521 00:24:09,184 --> 00:24:10,969 It was 2:00 in the morning. 522 00:24:11,012 --> 00:24:13,275 - Jack said, "Hell, no." - ♪ You ran off and married 523 00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:16,278 ♪ But I love you still - Months go by, 524 00:24:16,322 --> 00:24:18,324 and we asked them, "Why don't you come 525 00:24:18,367 --> 00:24:20,500 one more time and see The Doors?" 526 00:24:20,544 --> 00:24:24,635 Jack said, "I'm not going," but we talked him into it. 527 00:24:24,678 --> 00:24:27,638 ["Break On Through" playing] 528 00:24:29,509 --> 00:24:31,816 - ♪ You know the day destroys the night ♪ 529 00:24:31,859 --> 00:24:34,601 ♪ Night divides the day 530 00:24:34,645 --> 00:24:35,820 ♪ Tried to run 531 00:24:35,863 --> 00:24:37,299 ♪ Tried to hide 532 00:24:37,343 --> 00:24:39,693 ♪ Break on through to the other side ♪ 533 00:24:39,737 --> 00:24:42,261 ♪ Break on through to the other side ♪ 534 00:24:42,304 --> 00:24:45,960 ♪ Break on through to the other side yeah ♪ 535 00:24:46,004 --> 00:24:48,049 - Jim was on his best behavior. 536 00:24:48,093 --> 00:24:50,008 Sober and in his element. 537 00:24:50,051 --> 00:24:53,054 - ♪ I found an island in your arms ♪ 538 00:24:53,098 --> 00:24:55,448 ♪ Country in your eyes 539 00:24:55,492 --> 00:24:56,928 ♪ Arms that chained us 540 00:24:56,971 --> 00:24:58,407 ♪ Eyes that lied 541 00:24:58,451 --> 00:25:00,714 ♪ Break on through to the other side ♪ 542 00:25:00,758 --> 00:25:03,717 ♪ Break on through to the other side ♪ 543 00:25:03,761 --> 00:25:05,850 ♪ Break on through, oh 544 00:25:05,893 --> 00:25:09,288 ♪ Oh, yeah - They sounded so much better. 545 00:25:09,331 --> 00:25:12,813 And Jack saw what we saw. 546 00:25:12,857 --> 00:25:14,511 - It was so magical. 547 00:25:14,554 --> 00:25:17,078 Morrison was like a comet 548 00:25:17,122 --> 00:25:18,645 streaking across the sky. 549 00:25:18,689 --> 00:25:21,387 He was incandescent and burning. 550 00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:23,476 -♪ Deep and wide 551 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,522 - I thought they were gonna be the most significant 552 00:25:25,565 --> 00:25:28,394 artist we have had up until that time. 553 00:25:28,437 --> 00:25:29,917 - ♪ Break on through 554 00:25:29,961 --> 00:25:31,223 ♪ Break on through 555 00:25:31,266 --> 00:25:32,746 ♪ Break on through 556 00:25:32,790 --> 00:25:34,095 ♪ Break on through 557 00:25:34,139 --> 00:25:35,793 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 558 00:25:35,836 --> 00:25:38,665 - That same night, they signed The Doors. 559 00:25:38,709 --> 00:25:40,580 We thought, "Great. Now it's cool. 560 00:25:40,624 --> 00:25:43,888 They gonna let us go." And they said, "Hell, no. 561 00:25:43,931 --> 00:25:45,846 You guys aren't going." 562 00:25:45,890 --> 00:25:47,544 - All of a sudden, man, 563 00:25:47,587 --> 00:25:52,505 they're pushing The Doors like crazy, you know. 564 00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:57,075 - All of the resources that had been allocated to us 565 00:25:57,118 --> 00:26:00,078 were moved to The Doors. 566 00:26:00,121 --> 00:26:03,255 Publicity and radio, 567 00:26:03,298 --> 00:26:04,517 shots in magazines, 568 00:26:04,561 --> 00:26:06,388 and "The Ed Sullivan Show." 569 00:26:06,432 --> 00:26:08,739 - ♪ Break on through to the other side ♪ 570 00:26:08,782 --> 00:26:11,480 ♪ Break on through to the other side ♪ 571 00:26:11,524 --> 00:26:14,353 - We basically shot ourselves in the ass, 572 00:26:14,396 --> 00:26:15,702 by doing that. 573 00:26:15,746 --> 00:26:18,575 We were put on the back burner. 574 00:26:18,618 --> 00:26:20,925 - Jack had this idea to do a billboard 575 00:26:20,968 --> 00:26:23,492 for The Doors' first album. 576 00:26:23,536 --> 00:26:27,235 Nobody had ever had one before for a record. 577 00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:29,760 They let us climb up on top of it. 578 00:26:31,152 --> 00:26:32,589 And it was pretty cool. 579 00:26:33,328 --> 00:26:34,895 - I had realized 580 00:26:34,939 --> 00:26:37,376 my Southern California dream at that point. 581 00:26:37,419 --> 00:26:39,465 We could pay the rent. 582 00:26:39,508 --> 00:26:43,077 - John and I got a place up on Lookout, 583 00:26:43,121 --> 00:26:45,558 nice view of the whole Canyon. 584 00:26:47,778 --> 00:26:50,824 And Jim got a place right next to us. 585 00:26:50,868 --> 00:26:53,392 - That was, for Jim, the perfect setting 586 00:26:53,435 --> 00:26:55,263 to do his music. 587 00:26:55,307 --> 00:26:57,396 He was, at heart, a poet, 588 00:26:57,439 --> 00:27:00,138 but he set his poetry to music. 589 00:27:01,661 --> 00:27:03,445 - One night up in Laurel Canyon, 590 00:27:03,489 --> 00:27:06,448 Jim was in one of his moods where he was just 591 00:27:06,492 --> 00:27:09,016 down in the doldrums. 592 00:27:09,060 --> 00:27:10,757 - I said, "Hey, let's go up 593 00:27:10,801 --> 00:27:13,542 "to the top of Laurel Canyon and watch the sun come up. 594 00:27:13,586 --> 00:27:16,154 Maybe that'll give you a different mood." 595 00:27:16,197 --> 00:27:17,634 And it worked. 596 00:27:17,677 --> 00:27:21,115 He realized that people are strange. 597 00:27:21,159 --> 00:27:23,552 - ♪ When you're strange 598 00:27:23,596 --> 00:27:27,165 ♪ Faces come out of the rain 599 00:27:27,208 --> 00:27:29,558 ♪ When you're strange 600 00:27:29,602 --> 00:27:32,649 ♪ No one remembers your name 601 00:27:32,692 --> 00:27:34,520 ♪ When you're strange 602 00:27:34,563 --> 00:27:37,697 - Jim always says, write about something universal, 603 00:27:37,741 --> 00:27:41,701 that 40 years from now might still mean something. 604 00:27:41,745 --> 00:27:45,662 - ♪ People are strange when you're a stranger ♪ 605 00:27:45,705 --> 00:27:49,709 ♪ Faces look ugly when you're alone ♪ 606 00:27:49,753 --> 00:27:52,973 - The Doors had just broken before we left Phoenix. 607 00:27:53,017 --> 00:27:54,932 Jim Morrison was the most outrageous character 608 00:27:54,975 --> 00:27:57,891 at the time, but he was still a hero. 609 00:27:57,935 --> 00:27:59,327 Rock needs a villain. 610 00:28:02,766 --> 00:28:06,595 - Alice Cooper, we saw horror and comedy in rock 611 00:28:06,639 --> 00:28:08,206 all in bed together. 612 00:28:08,249 --> 00:28:09,686 We were theatrical. 613 00:28:09,729 --> 00:28:11,209 I played the character Alice Cooper. 614 00:28:11,252 --> 00:28:12,863 This villain born. 615 00:28:12,906 --> 00:28:15,604 We had become the biggest band in Phoenix, 616 00:28:15,648 --> 00:28:18,042 quit college, and moved to Los Angeles, 617 00:28:18,085 --> 00:28:20,740 not realizing that every single best band 618 00:28:20,784 --> 00:28:23,003 in every single city was there in LA. 619 00:28:23,047 --> 00:28:24,831 It was pretty competitive. 620 00:28:24,875 --> 00:28:26,703 We had been turned down by every label. 621 00:28:26,746 --> 00:28:28,705 They wanted the next Buffalo Springfield. 622 00:28:28,748 --> 00:28:30,750 They didn't wanna any freaks like us. 623 00:28:30,794 --> 00:28:34,449 The whole band was like a walking nightmare. 624 00:28:34,493 --> 00:28:36,060 There's real blood on the stage. 625 00:28:36,103 --> 00:28:37,409 ["Nobody Likes Me" playing] 626 00:28:37,452 --> 00:28:40,064 - ♪ Nobody likes me 627 00:28:40,107 --> 00:28:43,763 ♪ It's all my fault 628 00:28:43,807 --> 00:28:46,200 - This one night, the music we played 629 00:28:46,244 --> 00:28:47,854 was just white noise. 630 00:28:47,898 --> 00:28:49,726 - The audience could not take it. 631 00:28:49,769 --> 00:28:52,380 Within four minutes, we had cleared the place. 632 00:28:52,424 --> 00:28:54,469 Only one person left standing there, 633 00:28:54,513 --> 00:28:56,080 and it was Frank Zappa. 634 00:28:56,123 --> 00:28:59,736 Frank looked at us. He said, "What was that?" 635 00:28:59,779 --> 00:29:01,868 - People had a very violent response to it. 636 00:29:01,912 --> 00:29:03,478 Invariably, when they would play, 637 00:29:03,522 --> 00:29:04,653 people would leave the room, 638 00:29:04,697 --> 00:29:06,394 and I knew they had something. 639 00:29:06,438 --> 00:29:09,006 - But Frank Zappa was just starting his record label, 640 00:29:09,049 --> 00:29:10,572 Bizarre Records. 641 00:29:10,616 --> 00:29:13,053 And he wanted some new look, some new sound. 642 00:29:13,097 --> 00:29:14,794 So, Frank says, "Okay. 643 00:29:14,838 --> 00:29:16,230 "Why don't you guys come over to my house at 7:00, 644 00:29:16,274 --> 00:29:18,058 and I'll listen to you?" 645 00:29:18,102 --> 00:29:20,713 We were so anxious because everybody wanted to 646 00:29:20,757 --> 00:29:22,759 meet Frank Zappa. In the music business, 647 00:29:22,802 --> 00:29:25,587 there was nobody more revered. 648 00:29:25,631 --> 00:29:28,025 Zappa was the maestro. 649 00:29:28,068 --> 00:29:31,376 So we go to Frank's house in Laurel Canyon, 650 00:29:31,419 --> 00:29:34,640 the log cabin, at 7:00 in the morning. 651 00:29:34,683 --> 00:29:36,294 We just set up down in the basement, 652 00:29:36,337 --> 00:29:39,601 and started playing. 653 00:29:39,645 --> 00:29:41,342 Our hair was down to our waist. 654 00:29:41,386 --> 00:29:43,475 We were in chrome pants. 655 00:29:44,781 --> 00:29:47,174 Frank comes down the stairs, he's got his robe on 656 00:29:47,218 --> 00:29:48,567 and a coffee. 657 00:29:48,610 --> 00:29:50,438 He goes, "What are you doing?" 658 00:29:50,482 --> 00:29:51,918 I said, "Well, you said 7:00." 659 00:29:51,962 --> 00:29:54,573 And he said, "I meant 7:00 at night. 660 00:29:54,616 --> 00:29:56,401 Go ahead. Go ahead." 661 00:29:56,444 --> 00:30:00,318 - ♪ Very rarely worry utmost constantly ♪ 662 00:30:00,361 --> 00:30:03,843 ♪ Could you be receptive 663 00:30:03,887 --> 00:30:05,627 - Frank listened, and he goes, 664 00:30:05,671 --> 00:30:07,804 "The song doesn't go anywhere. It just stops." 665 00:30:07,847 --> 00:30:09,631 And I went, "Well, is that good or bad?" 666 00:30:09,675 --> 00:30:11,329 And he goes, "Oh, no, no. I'm gonna sign you 667 00:30:11,372 --> 00:30:13,070 because I don't get it." 668 00:30:13,113 --> 00:30:15,681 - The record company that I had was called Bizarre. 669 00:30:15,724 --> 00:30:19,119 So, I figured, well, here we go. 670 00:30:19,163 --> 00:30:22,209 - Frank produced the first album for us. 671 00:30:22,253 --> 00:30:24,081 When I finally could afford to buy a house, 672 00:30:24,124 --> 00:30:28,259 I bought a house right above Frank's log cabin. 673 00:30:28,302 --> 00:30:29,956 It was a very odd place to be 674 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,611 because it was right next door to Micky Dolenz 675 00:30:32,654 --> 00:30:34,831 from the Monkees. 676 00:30:34,874 --> 00:30:37,877 And the club house was Frank's house. 677 00:30:37,921 --> 00:30:40,271 You might see two or three of The Mothers of Invention, 678 00:30:40,314 --> 00:30:43,143 Frank's band, the most underground group, 679 00:30:43,187 --> 00:30:46,233 sitting there talking to Davy Jones and Micky Dolenz 680 00:30:46,277 --> 00:30:48,366 from The Monkees. 681 00:30:48,409 --> 00:30:50,107 And I was Alice Cooper. 682 00:30:50,150 --> 00:30:52,979 - Alice Cooper, that was a different kind of music. 683 00:30:53,023 --> 00:30:55,199 But nonetheless, he lived in Laurel Canyon. 684 00:30:55,242 --> 00:30:59,377 It wasn't all peace and love hippies up there. 685 00:30:59,420 --> 00:31:01,031 - Everybody was a fraternity. 686 00:31:01,074 --> 00:31:03,337 You're The Mothers, we're The Monkees, so what? 687 00:31:03,381 --> 00:31:05,252 ["The Monkees" playing] 688 00:31:09,213 --> 00:31:11,650 - ♪ Hey, hey, we're The Monkees ♪ 689 00:31:11,693 --> 00:31:13,739 ♪ You never know where we'll be found ♪ 690 00:31:13,782 --> 00:31:15,262 - And now, a remembrance. 691 00:31:15,306 --> 00:31:18,048 Peter Tork, best known as the keyboardist 692 00:31:18,091 --> 00:31:22,574 and bassist for the 1960s hit band The Monkees, has died. 693 00:31:22,617 --> 00:31:23,923 - Yeah. You know what? 694 00:31:23,967 --> 00:31:25,707 I should put a picture of Peter Tork up 695 00:31:25,751 --> 00:31:29,450 on my Facebook on The Monkees set, 696 00:31:29,494 --> 00:31:31,583 okay? Bye. 697 00:31:34,020 --> 00:31:38,285 In the '60s, we wanted to learn, just awaken, 698 00:31:38,329 --> 00:31:40,287 just kind of awaken your imagination 699 00:31:40,331 --> 00:31:41,941 and your thought. 700 00:31:41,985 --> 00:31:45,553 We all started reading the Indian gurus, 701 00:31:45,597 --> 00:31:48,034 the book called "Autobiography of a Yogi," 702 00:31:48,078 --> 00:31:52,821 and that really opened up my life, reading that book. 703 00:31:52,865 --> 00:31:54,998 We're all here to learn. 704 00:31:55,041 --> 00:31:56,042 We're all students, 705 00:31:56,086 --> 00:31:57,261 but you should think of yourself 706 00:31:57,304 --> 00:31:59,393 as the only student, 707 00:31:59,437 --> 00:32:01,874 and everybody else is your teacher. 708 00:32:03,571 --> 00:32:05,312 When you die, you don't die. 709 00:32:05,356 --> 00:32:06,966 You just leave your body. 710 00:32:07,010 --> 00:32:09,316 And it's just like walking into another room. 711 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,928 I bought a stack of them, never given one 712 00:32:11,971 --> 00:32:14,626 to Peter Tork on The Monkees set. 713 00:32:14,669 --> 00:32:16,062 I did a group shot 714 00:32:16,106 --> 00:32:17,759 of The Monkees sitting on a couch, 715 00:32:17,803 --> 00:32:19,413 and he was reading the Yogananda book. 716 00:32:19,457 --> 00:32:21,633 I felt so good about that. 717 00:32:22,634 --> 00:32:26,594 And today, he walked into the other room. 718 00:32:26,638 --> 00:32:28,422 He left the mortal coil. 719 00:32:28,466 --> 00:32:30,555 He left. He left us. 720 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,564 In about '65, when they were auditioning for players 721 00:32:39,607 --> 00:32:41,087 of The Monkees, every musician 722 00:32:41,131 --> 00:32:43,829 went down there. 723 00:32:43,872 --> 00:32:46,788 And Stephen Stills almost was one of The Monkees. 724 00:32:46,832 --> 00:32:48,703 He went to audition, and they said, 725 00:32:48,747 --> 00:32:50,618 "Well, your tooth doesn't really work." 726 00:32:50,662 --> 00:32:52,969 He had a snaggletooth. 727 00:32:53,012 --> 00:32:55,101 He said, "Well, let me send my roommate in 728 00:32:55,145 --> 00:32:57,190 to see you guys." 729 00:32:58,844 --> 00:33:00,672 - And that was Peter Tork. 730 00:33:03,544 --> 00:33:05,807 -Why do you wanna be a Monkee? 731 00:33:05,851 --> 00:33:07,635 - Well, it's my natural inheritance. 732 00:33:09,159 --> 00:33:11,030 - ♪ Hey, hey, we're The Monkees ♪ 733 00:33:11,074 --> 00:33:13,163 ♪ And people say we monkey around ♪ 734 00:33:13,206 --> 00:33:14,816 - The Monkees, as a whole thing, 735 00:33:14,860 --> 00:33:16,166 was thought of as a package 736 00:33:16,209 --> 00:33:18,255 for actors who played characters 737 00:33:18,298 --> 00:33:20,257 with their own names. 738 00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:22,259 - ♪ We're just trying to be friendly ♪ 739 00:33:22,302 --> 00:33:25,001 - The music was not terribly representative of the '60s. 740 00:33:25,044 --> 00:33:26,828 It certainly didn't break any new ground. 741 00:33:26,872 --> 00:33:28,787 It was just good bubble gum pop music. 742 00:33:28,830 --> 00:33:32,051 - ♪ And we've got something to say ♪ 743 00:33:32,095 --> 00:33:34,314 ♪ Hey, hey, we're The Monkees ♪ 744 00:33:34,358 --> 00:33:37,361 ♪ You never know where we'll be found ♪ 745 00:33:37,404 --> 00:33:40,146 ♪ So you'd better get ready 746 00:33:40,190 --> 00:33:44,368 ♪ We may be coming to your town ♪ 747 00:33:44,411 --> 00:33:46,848 - Now, for the people who haven't caught your TV show, 748 00:33:46,892 --> 00:33:48,589 what kind of things happen on it? 749 00:33:48,633 --> 00:33:49,982 - In a nutshell, it's a cross between 750 00:33:50,026 --> 00:33:51,592 the Marx Brothers and The Beatles. 751 00:33:51,636 --> 00:33:53,029 - Uh-hmm. - And it's like a situation 752 00:33:53,072 --> 00:33:54,987 about four guys in a rock and roll band 753 00:33:55,031 --> 00:33:57,033 that just get themselves in all kinds of mix-ups. 754 00:33:57,076 --> 00:33:58,904 ["Last Train to Clarksville" playing] 755 00:33:58,947 --> 00:34:01,124 - ♪ Take the last train to Clarksville ♪ 756 00:34:01,167 --> 00:34:03,735 ♪ And I'll meet you at the station ♪ 757 00:34:03,778 --> 00:34:05,693 ♪ You can be there by 4:30 - I knew The Monkees 758 00:34:05,737 --> 00:34:07,391 from Laurel Canyon. 759 00:34:07,434 --> 00:34:11,221 I was coming down to the set a lot to take pictures. 760 00:34:13,092 --> 00:34:15,573 It was such a silly show, but it was fun. 761 00:34:15,616 --> 00:34:17,923 It was supposed to be a rip-off of The Beatles. 762 00:34:17,966 --> 00:34:21,057 Four young guys, musicians, living together. 763 00:34:22,406 --> 00:34:25,452 - "The Monkees" was about an imaginary group 764 00:34:25,496 --> 00:34:27,541 who wanted to be The Beatles, 765 00:34:27,585 --> 00:34:29,717 and never made it. 766 00:34:29,761 --> 00:34:33,112 It spoke to all those kids trying, 767 00:34:33,156 --> 00:34:35,767 practicing, and playing in their garages, 768 00:34:35,810 --> 00:34:37,290 in their living rooms, 769 00:34:37,334 --> 00:34:39,466 in their basements. It was in the air. 770 00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:43,383 - ♪ And I don't know if I'm ever coming home ♪ 771 00:34:43,427 --> 00:34:46,299 - The record companies, television, film companies, 772 00:34:46,343 --> 00:34:49,694 and they saw this new generation coming along. 773 00:34:49,737 --> 00:34:52,479 There was a huge publicity push for us 774 00:34:52,523 --> 00:34:55,743 and the Lauren Canyon scene, shall we say. 775 00:34:55,787 --> 00:34:59,095 - ♪ And a bit of conversation 776 00:34:59,138 --> 00:35:01,401 ♪ Oh, no, no, no 777 00:35:01,445 --> 00:35:04,230 ♪ Oh, no, no, no - The place I moved into 778 00:35:04,274 --> 00:35:06,058 looked like you're in the middle 779 00:35:06,102 --> 00:35:07,929 of the Rocky Mountains. It was an old cabin 780 00:35:07,973 --> 00:35:09,627 a Disney animator had built, and it looked like 781 00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:12,891 a Swiss chalet, massive pine trees, 782 00:35:12,934 --> 00:35:14,414 rock gardens. 783 00:35:14,458 --> 00:35:17,025 It did turn out to be a gathering place. 784 00:35:17,069 --> 00:35:19,593 We'd began to throw these soirees 785 00:35:19,637 --> 00:35:22,770 along with a ping pong tournament. 786 00:35:22,814 --> 00:35:26,383 - Up the street were The Turtles, 787 00:35:26,426 --> 00:35:28,646 and Zappa was a little further down. 788 00:35:28,689 --> 00:35:31,127 People were just everywhere, 789 00:35:31,170 --> 00:35:33,999 literally wandering around the little streets, 790 00:35:34,042 --> 00:35:36,610 not even knocking on your door, 791 00:35:36,654 --> 00:35:38,046 just walking in, "How you doing? 792 00:35:38,090 --> 00:35:39,439 What do you got to eat?" 793 00:35:39,483 --> 00:35:42,050 "Stephen, oh, good to see you." 794 00:35:42,094 --> 00:35:44,618 It was a very small community of musicians 795 00:35:44,662 --> 00:35:46,664 and long-haired weirdoes. 796 00:35:46,707 --> 00:35:48,492 - It was a friendly Canyon. 797 00:35:48,535 --> 00:35:50,624 People were very open. 798 00:35:50,668 --> 00:35:53,149 I lived on Lookout Mountain, 799 00:35:53,192 --> 00:35:56,064 and then I moved to Tork's house. 800 00:35:56,108 --> 00:35:58,458 Peter was like my best friend. 801 00:35:58,502 --> 00:36:00,808 I was always taking pictures of Peter. 802 00:36:00,852 --> 00:36:03,507 I took more pictures of him than anybody else. 803 00:36:03,550 --> 00:36:06,858 So good. A mensch, as they say. 804 00:36:06,901 --> 00:36:08,947 - He was a really lovely guy, 805 00:36:08,990 --> 00:36:10,601 and I enjoyed being around him. 806 00:36:10,644 --> 00:36:12,820 Except Peter was a nudist. 807 00:36:12,864 --> 00:36:16,259 I had just got a really cool love seat, and I come home, 808 00:36:16,302 --> 00:36:20,176 and there is butt-naked Peter, sitting on my love seat. 809 00:36:20,219 --> 00:36:22,352 I wasn't pleased with that. 810 00:36:22,395 --> 00:36:24,136 - That's me playing the banjo. And I'm gonna do some more 811 00:36:24,180 --> 00:36:26,399 of that. I hope you're ready. 812 00:36:26,443 --> 00:36:29,185 - Peter--he had this great house on the other side 813 00:36:29,228 --> 00:36:32,449 of Laurel Canyon, on the Valley side. 814 00:36:32,492 --> 00:36:34,886 Swimming pool, and a dressing room, 815 00:36:34,929 --> 00:36:36,279 great view. 816 00:36:36,322 --> 00:36:39,195 Harrison Ford built his music room, 817 00:36:39,238 --> 00:36:40,544 and there were a lot of people, 818 00:36:40,587 --> 00:36:41,849 just came to hang out, 819 00:36:41,893 --> 00:36:43,460 smoke pot. 820 00:36:43,503 --> 00:36:46,289 The Beatles, Buffalo Springfield. 821 00:36:46,332 --> 00:36:48,639 You know, it was fun, 822 00:36:48,682 --> 00:36:50,380 and no responsibilities. 823 00:36:50,423 --> 00:36:53,296 They were all playing at the local clubs. 824 00:36:53,339 --> 00:36:55,472 And when I think about it now, 825 00:36:55,515 --> 00:36:59,650 we were so, you know, in our little bubble. 826 00:36:59,693 --> 00:37:01,304 We were so apolitical. 827 00:37:01,347 --> 00:37:04,263 The group of people that hung out in these clubs 828 00:37:04,307 --> 00:37:06,047 loved the music and everything, 829 00:37:06,091 --> 00:37:08,267 but there was far more going on in the world, 830 00:37:08,311 --> 00:37:11,183 and it took a while for us to evolve, you know, 831 00:37:11,227 --> 00:37:13,316 and get to that place where we cared. 832 00:37:18,451 --> 00:37:22,238 - The commercial merchants on Sunset Boulevard, 833 00:37:22,281 --> 00:37:25,284 they had decided that the element of young people 834 00:37:25,328 --> 00:37:28,766 that was on the street every night 835 00:37:28,809 --> 00:37:33,161 was not conducive to commercial enterprise. 836 00:37:33,205 --> 00:37:35,076 - But just because we're not going along with society, 837 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:36,643 like everybody else goes-- they want everybody 838 00:37:36,687 --> 00:37:38,297 to do the same thing. All they want you to do 839 00:37:38,341 --> 00:37:39,907 is they want you to grow up, get an education, 840 00:37:39,951 --> 00:37:41,387 raise children, and die. 841 00:37:41,431 --> 00:37:43,259 - I got it. - There's been a lot of talk 842 00:37:43,302 --> 00:37:44,782 about the riots that have been going on 843 00:37:44,825 --> 00:37:46,218 in the Sunset Strip. 844 00:37:46,262 --> 00:37:48,046 - They haven't really been riots. 845 00:37:48,089 --> 00:37:49,917 And in actuality, since I-- since I was there, 846 00:37:49,961 --> 00:37:51,528 they'd been demonstrations. 847 00:37:51,571 --> 00:37:54,922 - Well, it's mostly kids from the ages of 15 to 20. 848 00:37:54,966 --> 00:37:58,622 There's a 10:00 curfew imposed on these young people. 849 00:37:58,665 --> 00:38:02,408 Under 18, it's a California law that you're not able 850 00:38:02,452 --> 00:38:04,715 to go into a teenage night club. 851 00:38:04,758 --> 00:38:08,196 - There was a club called Pandora's Box, 852 00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:10,329 where Crescent Height, Sunset Boulevard, 853 00:38:10,373 --> 00:38:12,810 and Laurel Canyon all came together. 854 00:38:12,853 --> 00:38:16,292 The kids gathered there, and Stephen was just observing 855 00:38:16,335 --> 00:38:20,339 what was going on one night, coming home from the Whisky. 856 00:38:20,383 --> 00:38:23,734 - What happened was just a bunch of kids got together 857 00:38:23,777 --> 00:38:26,650 on a street corner, and said, 858 00:38:26,693 --> 00:38:28,652 "We aren't moving." 859 00:38:28,695 --> 00:38:30,218 Then about three busloads 860 00:38:30,262 --> 00:38:33,570 of the Los Angeles Police showed up. 861 00:38:42,622 --> 00:38:46,409 - And they say, "Jesus, America is in great danger 862 00:38:46,452 --> 00:38:48,889 of turning politically to the right." 863 00:38:48,933 --> 00:38:50,978 It's the fascist stories. - Move out. 864 00:38:51,022 --> 00:38:52,502 - I get home, and I'd run, and I'd pick up 865 00:38:52,545 --> 00:38:54,112 my acoustic guitar, 866 00:38:54,155 --> 00:38:55,809 and all of a sudden, it turned into a song. 867 00:38:55,853 --> 00:38:58,377 - ♪ It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound ♪ 868 00:38:58,421 --> 00:39:01,511 ♪ Everybody look what's going down ♪ 869 00:39:03,208 --> 00:39:04,905 - A lot of people wanna apply the song 870 00:39:04,949 --> 00:39:06,385 to the Vietnam War. 871 00:39:06,429 --> 00:39:08,213 That's what makes the song so special, 872 00:39:08,256 --> 00:39:11,651 how the audience interpret it for themselves. 873 00:39:11,695 --> 00:39:14,567 - ♪ What a field-day for the heat ♪ 874 00:39:14,611 --> 00:39:17,178 - That war was an undercurrent of our lives. 875 00:39:17,222 --> 00:39:19,398 We were right at the age where we would be 876 00:39:19,442 --> 00:39:21,748 first in line to be shipped over there, 877 00:39:21,792 --> 00:39:24,882 so we were all concerned that they were gonna take us 878 00:39:24,925 --> 00:39:26,187 out of Oz, and send us 879 00:39:26,231 --> 00:39:29,626 into some godforsaken jungle. 880 00:39:29,669 --> 00:39:32,629 - ♪ It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound ♪ 881 00:39:32,672 --> 00:39:35,980 ♪ Everybody look what's going down ♪ 882 00:39:37,242 --> 00:39:39,853 - People started, like, tuning into the news 883 00:39:39,897 --> 00:39:43,030 and realizing that Sunset Boulevard 884 00:39:43,074 --> 00:39:45,424 was not the end-all and be all of the world. 885 00:39:45,468 --> 00:39:48,427 There were things going on out there. 886 00:39:48,471 --> 00:39:50,734 - You see the flames coming out of the buildings 887 00:39:50,777 --> 00:39:52,213 directly across the street. 888 00:39:52,257 --> 00:39:53,780 - What leads a person to do this, 889 00:39:53,824 --> 00:39:56,653 bring about a situation that might explode? 890 00:39:56,696 --> 00:39:59,395 Maybe we have something to do with it. 891 00:39:59,438 --> 00:40:02,180 - ♪ You step out of line, the man come ♪ 892 00:40:02,223 --> 00:40:03,790 ♪ And take you away 893 00:40:03,834 --> 00:40:06,706 - People started to come out of their own egos. 894 00:40:06,750 --> 00:40:10,841 The songs changed and became much more relevant. 895 00:40:10,884 --> 00:40:12,364 - ♪ Hey, what's that sound 896 00:40:12,408 --> 00:40:14,018 ♪ Everybody look what's going down ♪ 897 00:40:14,061 --> 00:40:15,149 ♪ It's time to stop now 898 00:40:15,193 --> 00:40:16,586 ♪ What's that sound? 899 00:40:16,629 --> 00:40:17,848 - Protests, 900 00:40:17,891 --> 00:40:19,415 integration-- 901 00:40:19,458 --> 00:40:22,722 it was like the collision of these meteors 902 00:40:22,766 --> 00:40:25,203 all over the United States. 903 00:40:25,246 --> 00:40:30,077 There was a freedom that exploded the music, 904 00:40:30,121 --> 00:40:31,862 the fashion. 905 00:40:31,905 --> 00:40:34,212 The '60s were a change 906 00:40:34,255 --> 00:40:37,433 in almost every facet of our lives. 907 00:40:41,132 --> 00:40:44,222 - We had sort of a communal type existence. 908 00:40:44,265 --> 00:40:47,094 We wanted a name that would indicate 909 00:40:47,138 --> 00:40:49,749 that there were both men and women in the group, 910 00:40:49,793 --> 00:40:51,272 because it was the first group 911 00:40:51,316 --> 00:40:53,884 that actually was sexually integrated. 912 00:40:53,927 --> 00:40:57,017 - When we had formed The Mamas & The Papas, 913 00:40:57,061 --> 00:40:58,497 I was with John Phillips. 914 00:40:58,541 --> 00:41:00,586 We'd been married for about a year. 915 00:41:00,630 --> 00:41:03,589 - John has written an epic tone poem 916 00:41:03,633 --> 00:41:04,895 of historical nature, 917 00:41:04,938 --> 00:41:06,331 describing our very get together, 918 00:41:06,374 --> 00:41:08,899 and so we like to sing it for you now. 919 00:41:08,942 --> 00:41:10,161 Cue the tape. 920 00:41:10,204 --> 00:41:13,469 ["Creeque Alley" playing] 921 00:41:16,776 --> 00:41:20,127 - ♪ John and Mitchy were getting kind of itchy ♪ 922 00:41:20,171 --> 00:41:23,566 ♪ Just to leave the folk music behind ♪ 923 00:41:23,609 --> 00:41:26,786 ♪ Zal and Denny, working for a penny ♪ 924 00:41:26,830 --> 00:41:30,050 ♪ Trying to get a fish on the line ♪ 925 00:41:30,094 --> 00:41:33,619 ♪ In a coffee house Sebastian sat ♪ 926 00:41:33,663 --> 00:41:36,840 ♪ And after every number they'd pass the hat ♪ 927 00:41:36,883 --> 00:41:41,366 ♪ McGuinn and McGuire just a-getting higher in LA ♪ 928 00:41:41,409 --> 00:41:44,064 ♪ You know where that's at 929 00:41:44,108 --> 00:41:45,979 ♪ And no one's getting fat 930 00:41:46,023 --> 00:41:48,808 ♪ Except Mama Cass 931 00:41:48,852 --> 00:41:51,507 - "And no one's getting fat except Mama Cass." 932 00:41:51,550 --> 00:41:53,944 John came up with the lyric, and I said, 933 00:41:53,987 --> 00:41:55,989 "Yeah, but what are really gonna say there?" 934 00:41:56,033 --> 00:41:57,600 He says, "That's the lyric." 935 00:41:57,643 --> 00:42:02,648 And she laughs so hard. She said, "I love that." 936 00:42:02,692 --> 00:42:05,259 - I think that we were offensive 937 00:42:05,303 --> 00:42:06,957 to the point of being inoffensive. 938 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,350 There were things about the group physically 939 00:42:09,394 --> 00:42:11,222 that startled people. 940 00:42:11,265 --> 00:42:12,745 The fact that these four people 941 00:42:12,789 --> 00:42:14,660 would come together and look like that, 942 00:42:14,704 --> 00:42:17,924 and make that kind of music live in concert. 943 00:42:17,968 --> 00:42:19,839 - ♪ And no one's getting fat 944 00:42:19,883 --> 00:42:22,363 ♪ Except Mama Cass 945 00:42:22,407 --> 00:42:23,800 - The Mamas & The Papas sound 946 00:42:23,843 --> 00:42:26,237 was a combination of the blues, 947 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,370 rock and roll, jazz, folk. 948 00:42:29,414 --> 00:42:31,721 It was the first time that those influences 949 00:42:31,764 --> 00:42:34,419 had been brought together in pop music. 950 00:42:34,462 --> 00:42:39,250 - ♪ Like a California dreaming is becoming a reality ♪ 951 00:42:42,862 --> 00:42:46,649 ♪ Becoming a reality 952 00:42:53,220 --> 00:42:55,179 - At that point, Laurel Canyon 953 00:42:55,222 --> 00:42:56,746 was very well-developed. 954 00:42:56,789 --> 00:42:58,486 There was a charm to it, 955 00:42:58,530 --> 00:43:01,881 very green, cute little houses. 956 00:43:01,925 --> 00:43:05,406 Most musicians really were coming from New York. 957 00:43:05,450 --> 00:43:08,801 When we all heard The Byrds had a hit, 958 00:43:08,845 --> 00:43:12,152 everything kind of shifted from New York to California 959 00:43:12,196 --> 00:43:14,067 in the music business. 960 00:43:14,111 --> 00:43:15,721 You'd have a friend who'd say, 961 00:43:15,765 --> 00:43:17,375 "If you're looking for a place, you ought to try 962 00:43:17,418 --> 00:43:20,073 some place up in Laurel Canyon." 963 00:43:20,117 --> 00:43:24,077 That's how people ended up there. 964 00:43:24,121 --> 00:43:28,299 John and I lived on Lookout Mountain with Denny. 965 00:43:29,996 --> 00:43:31,607 I was pretty insulated 966 00:43:31,650 --> 00:43:34,871 with my relationship with John. 967 00:43:39,266 --> 00:43:41,355 - Michelle and I had an affair. 968 00:43:41,399 --> 00:43:44,184 That was just a pure and simple mistake. 969 00:43:44,228 --> 00:43:46,622 - When this surfaced, 970 00:43:46,665 --> 00:43:49,712 it was very hard for John to accept 971 00:43:49,755 --> 00:43:51,278 that his wife and his best friend 972 00:43:51,322 --> 00:43:53,977 had had an affair. 973 00:43:54,020 --> 00:43:55,413 But to Cass, 974 00:43:55,456 --> 00:43:57,633 it was the greatest betrayal of all, 975 00:43:57,676 --> 00:44:00,374 because she was very much in love with Denny, 976 00:44:00,418 --> 00:44:02,812 and she had always hoped that someday, 977 00:44:02,855 --> 00:44:06,076 she and Denny would actually be together. 978 00:44:06,119 --> 00:44:09,383 It was very, very difficult to overcome. 979 00:44:09,427 --> 00:44:13,344 But we decided the group was gonna continue. 980 00:44:15,172 --> 00:44:17,740 So, John moved out with Denny, 981 00:44:17,783 --> 00:44:20,917 and I stayed at the house on Lookout Mountain. 982 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,049 Now, while they were living together, 983 00:44:23,093 --> 00:44:25,182 they were living the fantasy life 984 00:44:25,225 --> 00:44:26,313 of two rock and rollers. 985 00:44:26,357 --> 00:44:27,967 ["I Saw Her Again" playing] 986 00:44:28,011 --> 00:44:30,578 - ♪ I saw her again last night ♪ 987 00:44:30,622 --> 00:44:33,538 ♪ And you know that I shouldn't ♪ 988 00:44:33,581 --> 00:44:37,934 - There were girls everywhere. 989 00:44:37,977 --> 00:44:40,676 I used to live down the street from them. 990 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,678 So when he and Michelle were split, 991 00:44:42,721 --> 00:44:44,244 you know, they weren't together, 992 00:44:44,288 --> 00:44:46,682 John used to come and just talk. 993 00:44:46,725 --> 00:44:50,381 He needed to talk, and I was, like, there. 994 00:44:51,034 --> 00:44:53,079 I don't know, you know what happens. 995 00:44:53,123 --> 00:44:55,691 Who can explain attraction? 996 00:44:55,734 --> 00:44:59,346 - I started seeing Gene Clark from The Byrds 997 00:44:59,390 --> 00:45:00,696 clandestinely. 998 00:45:00,739 --> 00:45:04,003 He lived down the street from me. 999 00:45:04,047 --> 00:45:06,353 I knew that if John found out that I was seeing Gene, 1000 00:45:06,397 --> 00:45:07,703 he would be furious, 1001 00:45:07,746 --> 00:45:09,530 in spite of his own girlfriend. 1002 00:45:09,574 --> 00:45:11,619 So we kept it quiet. 1003 00:45:11,663 --> 00:45:14,231 When we were gonna play Melodyland, Gene asked me 1004 00:45:14,274 --> 00:45:16,146 if he could have a couple of tickets to the concert, 1005 00:45:16,189 --> 00:45:18,539 and I said, "Absolutely." I called the office. 1006 00:45:18,583 --> 00:45:19,889 I didn't realize they were gonna put him 1007 00:45:19,932 --> 00:45:21,325 in the front row. 1008 00:45:21,368 --> 00:45:26,417 - ♪ Got a feeling that I'm wasting ♪ 1009 00:45:26,460 --> 00:45:31,422 ♪ Time on you, babe 1010 00:45:31,465 --> 00:45:34,251 ♪ Got a feeling that 1011 00:45:34,294 --> 00:45:41,040 ♪ You're been untrue 1012 00:45:41,084 --> 00:45:43,042 - When Cass saw Gene, 1013 00:45:43,086 --> 00:45:44,391 she knew that there could be 1014 00:45:44,435 --> 00:45:48,700 a murder on stage any minute. 1015 00:45:48,744 --> 00:45:53,531 And then, John realized what was going on. 1016 00:45:53,574 --> 00:45:58,579 - ♪ The joke's on you 1017 00:45:58,623 --> 00:46:03,193 ♪ Baby, it's true 1018 00:46:03,236 --> 00:46:08,894 ♪ The joke's on you 1019 00:46:08,938 --> 00:46:12,202 - At the end of the concert, John took his mic, and yelled, 1020 00:46:12,245 --> 00:46:14,595 "Get the fuck over here." 1021 00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:16,293 I ran up the stage, out the backdoor, 1022 00:46:16,336 --> 00:46:17,947 and into my car. 1023 00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:20,688 But John was hot on my heels, and he grabbed me, 1024 00:46:20,732 --> 00:46:23,909 and he said, "You are fired, you are fired." 1025 00:46:23,953 --> 00:46:25,432 And I said, "Well, I don't think 1026 00:46:25,476 --> 00:46:27,086 "you really have the legal right 1027 00:46:27,130 --> 00:46:28,435 to do that, John." 1028 00:46:28,479 --> 00:46:32,962 He said, "You wait and see." 1029 00:46:33,005 --> 00:46:34,877 - It's one thing for a guy to sleep around, 1030 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,532 that's macho, you know, A guy is really, you know. 1031 00:46:38,576 --> 00:46:40,708 But for a woman, it was still--you know, 1032 00:46:40,752 --> 00:46:43,450 '60s were too close to the '50s. 1033 00:46:43,494 --> 00:46:45,844 You don't just lose that overnight. 1034 00:46:45,888 --> 00:46:47,977 There was a difference between men and women. 1035 00:46:48,020 --> 00:46:50,849 I mean, women were subordinate to men. 1036 00:46:50,893 --> 00:46:53,286 I'm sorry, but that's the way it was. 1037 00:46:53,330 --> 00:46:56,289 - There was no free love, as far as I was concerned, 1038 00:46:56,333 --> 00:46:59,292 but there was nothing that I could do about it. 1039 00:46:59,336 --> 00:47:01,120 I was thrown out of the group. 1040 00:47:01,164 --> 00:47:04,645 - It took a lot of pleading and groveling to get back in. 1041 00:47:04,689 --> 00:47:06,212 It was hard to beg, 1042 00:47:06,256 --> 00:47:09,302 but I knew that it meant going back with John. 1043 00:47:09,346 --> 00:47:10,869 - Hey, Michelle, 1044 00:47:10,913 --> 00:47:12,740 take this until Dionne Warwick comes on, will you? 1045 00:47:16,048 --> 00:47:18,529 - They got offices on Sunset Boulevard, 1046 00:47:18,572 --> 00:47:21,401 Monterey Pop offices, to make phone calls 1047 00:47:21,445 --> 00:47:23,186 and set up this pop festival. 1048 00:47:23,229 --> 00:47:24,491 Oh, nothing's happened. 1049 00:47:24,535 --> 00:47:27,320 Let's press on. 1050 00:47:27,364 --> 00:47:30,584 - Well, this is John Phillips of The Mamas and Papas. 1051 00:47:30,628 --> 00:47:32,543 - ♪ All the leaves are brown 1052 00:47:32,586 --> 00:47:34,110 - ♪ All the leaves are brown 1053 00:47:34,153 --> 00:47:36,199 - ♪ And the sky is gray 1054 00:47:36,242 --> 00:47:38,766 - ♪ And the sky is gray 1055 00:47:38,810 --> 00:47:40,420 - ♪ I've been for a walk 1056 00:47:40,464 --> 00:47:42,335 - ♪ I've been for a walk 1057 00:47:42,379 --> 00:47:44,381 - ♪ On a winter's day 1058 00:47:44,424 --> 00:47:47,166 - ♪ On a winter's day 1059 00:47:47,210 --> 00:47:48,515 - ♪ I'd be safe and warm 1060 00:47:48,559 --> 00:47:50,517 - ♪ I'd be safe and warm 1061 00:47:50,561 --> 00:47:52,650 - ♪ If I was in LA 1062 00:47:52,693 --> 00:47:55,131 - ♪ If I was in LA 1063 00:47:55,174 --> 00:47:58,656 - ♪ California dreamin' - ♪ California dreamin' 1064 00:47:58,699 --> 00:48:02,660 - ♪ On such a winter's day - ♪ On such a winter's day 1065 00:48:02,703 --> 00:48:05,184 - "California Dreamin'" was written in New York 1066 00:48:05,228 --> 00:48:07,926 in the early '60s, 1067 00:48:07,970 --> 00:48:10,798 years before we actually recorded it. 1068 00:48:10,842 --> 00:48:14,150 - I was begging John to go up to California, 1069 00:48:14,193 --> 00:48:15,716 and he said, "We can't. 1070 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,544 "That's not where the business is. 1071 00:48:17,588 --> 00:48:19,546 The business is in New York." 1072 00:48:19,590 --> 00:48:23,028 But one night, John woke me up in the middle of the night, 1073 00:48:23,072 --> 00:48:26,945 "Wake up, I'm writing a song. Listen to this." 1074 00:48:26,989 --> 00:48:30,644 - ♪ I'd be safe and warm 1075 00:48:30,688 --> 00:48:35,345 ♪ If I was in LA 1076 00:48:35,388 --> 00:48:38,870 ♪ California dreamin' 1077 00:48:38,914 --> 00:48:41,742 ♪ On such a winter's day 1078 00:48:41,786 --> 00:48:44,571 - I said, "It's beautiful, John." 1079 00:48:44,615 --> 00:48:46,182 He says, "Help me write it." 1080 00:48:46,225 --> 00:48:48,401 I said, "Tomorrow." He said, "No, 1081 00:48:48,445 --> 00:48:51,187 help me write it now." 1082 00:48:51,230 --> 00:48:53,406 - ♪ Well, I got down on my knees ♪ 1083 00:48:53,450 --> 00:48:55,365 - ♪ I got down on my knees 1084 00:48:55,408 --> 00:48:57,758 - ♪ And I pretend to pray 1085 00:48:57,802 --> 00:48:59,760 - ♪ I pretend to pray 1086 00:48:59,804 --> 00:49:01,762 - ♪ You know the preacher liked the cold ♪ 1087 00:49:01,806 --> 00:49:03,764 - ♪ Preacher liked the cold 1088 00:49:03,808 --> 00:49:05,984 - ♪ He knows I'm gonna stay 1089 00:49:06,028 --> 00:49:08,769 - ♪ He knows I'm gonna stay 1090 00:49:08,813 --> 00:49:12,599 - ♪ California dreamin' - ♪ California dreamin' 1091 00:49:12,643 --> 00:49:18,605 ♪ On such a winter's day 1092 00:49:26,004 --> 00:49:27,963 - The Monterey Pop Festival, we didn't know 1093 00:49:28,006 --> 00:49:31,879 that it would be a historical landmark in music. 1094 00:49:31,923 --> 00:49:35,057 It was the height of the Anti-Vietnam movement 1095 00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:38,799 of flower power, make love, not war. 1096 00:49:38,843 --> 00:49:41,628 Most people were out of this conventional 1097 00:49:41,672 --> 00:49:43,761 state of mind. 1098 00:49:43,804 --> 00:49:46,764 It was a very diverse group of artists 1099 00:49:46,807 --> 00:49:48,592 that would never ordinarily perform 1100 00:49:48,635 --> 00:49:50,289 on the same bill together. 1101 00:49:50,333 --> 00:49:52,291 - It was the first time that it happened. 1102 00:49:52,335 --> 00:49:55,816 A whole gang of us played at the same place like that. 1103 00:49:55,860 --> 00:49:57,470 Very exciting. 1104 00:49:57,514 --> 00:49:59,777 It was the first time that I'd seen The Who live, 1105 00:49:59,820 --> 00:50:01,605 and that was a bit of a shock. 1106 00:50:01,648 --> 00:50:04,260 - The Who, the Jefferson Airplane, 1107 00:50:04,303 --> 00:50:08,307 Otis Redding, Ravi Shankar was there, 1108 00:50:08,351 --> 00:50:10,135 Buffalo Springfield. 1109 00:50:10,179 --> 00:50:12,703 - I'm--I'm here to fulfill a function 1110 00:50:12,746 --> 00:50:14,444 this particular time around, 1111 00:50:14,487 --> 00:50:16,924 one which I revel in and glory in, 1112 00:50:16,968 --> 00:50:19,144 that I'm introducing the next group 1113 00:50:19,188 --> 00:50:20,537 who are my favorites 1114 00:50:20,580 --> 00:50:22,930 because of long-standing friendships 1115 00:50:22,974 --> 00:50:25,672 with individuals, as well as, uh-- 1116 00:50:25,716 --> 00:50:27,979 I like the music. 1117 00:50:28,023 --> 00:50:30,416 I'd like you to welcome my favorite group, 1118 00:50:30,460 --> 00:50:31,678 The Buffalo Springfield. 1119 00:50:33,550 --> 00:50:37,510 ["For What It's Worth" playing] 1120 00:50:37,554 --> 00:50:39,599 - Just before the festival, 1121 00:50:39,643 --> 00:50:42,863 The Springfield was reaching its demise. 1122 00:50:42,907 --> 00:50:46,650 - ♪ There's battle lines being drawn ♪ 1123 00:50:46,693 --> 00:50:51,133 ♪ Nobody's right if everybody's wrong ♪ 1124 00:50:51,176 --> 00:50:53,831 - ♪ Oh, yeah - ♪ Young people speaking... 1125 00:50:53,874 --> 00:50:55,354 - Neil made it a point to be in the band, 1126 00:50:55,398 --> 00:50:57,748 out of the band, in the band, out of the band, 1127 00:50:57,791 --> 00:51:01,056 and so we kept going back and forth. 1128 00:51:01,099 --> 00:51:02,709 - ♪ We got to stop, children 1129 00:51:02,753 --> 00:51:04,189 ♪ What's that sound? 1130 00:51:04,233 --> 00:51:07,453 ♪ Everybody look, what's going down? ♪ 1131 00:51:07,497 --> 00:51:09,325 - We were at Monterey. We were down a man 1132 00:51:09,368 --> 00:51:11,936 and we got David Crosby to come and sit in with us, 1133 00:51:11,979 --> 00:51:15,113 and everybody got really uptight. 1134 00:51:15,157 --> 00:51:19,509 - There's David up there with The Buffalo Springfield. 1135 00:51:19,552 --> 00:51:21,728 - Well, that wispy, you could hear the vibrations 1136 00:51:21,772 --> 00:51:23,208 going through the entire open hall. 1137 00:51:23,252 --> 00:51:24,818 - It--it put a lot of people uptight. 1138 00:51:24,862 --> 00:51:26,124 - It sure did. 1139 00:51:26,168 --> 00:51:27,778 - But he didn't put me uptight. 1140 00:51:27,821 --> 00:51:28,953 - No. - He didn't put Stephen Stills 1141 00:51:28,996 --> 00:51:30,520 uptight. - No. 1142 00:51:30,563 --> 00:51:31,651 - 'Cause we were two musicians 1143 00:51:31,695 --> 00:51:33,088 and we wanted to make music. 1144 00:51:33,131 --> 00:51:34,915 And to heck with the rules, man. 1145 00:51:34,959 --> 00:51:36,917 - ♪ Stop, children, what's that sound? ♪ 1146 00:51:36,961 --> 00:51:38,571 - He was okay up there with him. 1147 00:51:38,615 --> 00:51:40,834 It didn't bother me that much at the time. 1148 00:51:40,878 --> 00:51:42,532 I had a feeling David was getting restless 1149 00:51:42,575 --> 00:51:44,925 and he felt that it was time to do something else. 1150 00:51:44,969 --> 00:51:46,013 And he was sort of looking around 1151 00:51:46,057 --> 00:51:48,973 for something else to do. 1152 00:51:49,016 --> 00:51:53,586 - ♪ Paranoia strikes deep 1153 00:51:53,630 --> 00:51:55,545 ♪ Into your life 1154 00:51:55,588 --> 00:51:58,113 ♪ It will creep 1155 00:51:58,156 --> 00:52:01,812 ♪ It starts when you're always afraid ♪ 1156 00:52:01,855 --> 00:52:03,248 ♪ Step out of the line 1157 00:52:03,292 --> 00:52:04,771 - I wasn't really highly regarded 1158 00:52:04,815 --> 00:52:07,209 in The Byrds as a writer. 1159 00:52:07,252 --> 00:52:10,821 You know, that was one of the bones of contention. 1160 00:52:10,864 --> 00:52:12,431 - David Crosby was very talented, 1161 00:52:12,475 --> 00:52:15,434 but he also had an ego the size of the moon. 1162 00:52:15,478 --> 00:52:18,263 He became very difficult to work with. 1163 00:52:18,307 --> 00:52:20,222 - I was very competitive with Roger, 1164 00:52:20,265 --> 00:52:24,095 who was always central in The Byrds, and rightly so. 1165 00:52:24,139 --> 00:52:26,358 - Well, the Byrds were like a pirate ship as opposed 1166 00:52:26,402 --> 00:52:28,969 to a close-knit group of brothers. 1167 00:52:29,013 --> 00:52:31,233 The differences were in who got their songs 1168 00:52:31,276 --> 00:52:32,538 on the record. 1169 00:52:32,582 --> 00:52:33,887 Terry Melcher was our producer. 1170 00:52:33,931 --> 00:52:35,280 He was my friend. 1171 00:52:35,324 --> 00:52:36,977 He would get my songs on there. 1172 00:52:37,021 --> 00:52:38,457 And he didn't like David Crosby, 1173 00:52:38,501 --> 00:52:40,329 and David Crosby didn't like Terry Melcher, 1174 00:52:40,372 --> 00:52:43,332 so David wasn't getting his songs on there. 1175 00:52:43,375 --> 00:52:45,160 And that was a problem. 1176 00:52:45,203 --> 00:52:49,860 They were good songs, but it was politics. 1177 00:52:49,903 --> 00:52:51,470 - I wanted more of everything. 1178 00:52:51,514 --> 00:52:52,906 I wanted more attention. 1179 00:52:52,950 --> 00:52:56,475 My position in that band was wingman. 1180 00:52:56,519 --> 00:52:58,521 That was part of the grid and the gears 1181 00:52:58,564 --> 00:53:01,350 that eventually made that one come unglued. 1182 00:53:01,393 --> 00:53:04,004 So, they let me go. 1183 00:53:04,048 --> 00:53:05,658 I've never been good with roles. 1184 00:53:05,702 --> 00:53:07,399 But life has changed. 1185 00:53:07,443 --> 00:53:11,186 Everything changes all the time. 1186 00:53:13,797 --> 00:53:15,059 - Okay. 1187 00:53:15,102 --> 00:53:16,800 So... 1188 00:53:16,843 --> 00:53:18,715 who you are, what your name is? 1189 00:53:18,758 --> 00:53:20,847 What you really do? 1190 00:53:20,891 --> 00:53:23,763 - Who I am? 1191 00:53:23,807 --> 00:53:25,939 Let's see. 1192 00:53:32,163 --> 00:53:34,252 That's a hard departure point. 1193 00:53:34,296 --> 00:53:36,080 What'll be... 1194 00:53:36,123 --> 00:53:37,777 the synopsis, I don't know. 1195 00:53:37,821 --> 00:53:38,952 - Your name. 1196 00:53:38,996 --> 00:53:40,519 - Oh, just identification? 1197 00:53:40,563 --> 00:53:42,086 I'm Joni Mitchell. 1198 00:53:42,129 --> 00:53:45,350 ["Ladies Of The Canyon" playing] 1199 00:53:51,138 --> 00:53:54,359 - ♪ Trina wears her wampum beads ♪ 1200 00:53:54,403 --> 00:53:59,277 ♪ She fills her drawing book with line ♪ 1201 00:53:59,321 --> 00:54:02,106 - I remember, so when I first got here 1202 00:54:02,149 --> 00:54:05,370 driving around up in the canyons 1203 00:54:05,414 --> 00:54:07,981 with a good stereo. 1204 00:54:08,025 --> 00:54:09,331 There were no sidewalks. 1205 00:54:09,374 --> 00:54:11,420 There were no regimented lines. 1206 00:54:11,463 --> 00:54:14,727 The ruralness of it, the friendliness of it... 1207 00:54:14,771 --> 00:54:16,903 No one locked their doors. 1208 00:54:16,947 --> 00:54:20,298 ♪ Trimmed with antique luxury ♪ 1209 00:54:20,342 --> 00:54:25,303 ♪ She is a lady of the canyon ♪ 1210 00:54:30,352 --> 00:54:32,789 - Having lived in New York and then come here, 1211 00:54:32,832 --> 00:54:34,269 having trees in the yard, 1212 00:54:34,312 --> 00:54:36,140 having ducks in my neighbor's yard 1213 00:54:36,183 --> 00:54:38,098 floating around on the pond, 1214 00:54:38,142 --> 00:54:40,405 the ducks on the Ladies of the Canyon album 1215 00:54:40,449 --> 00:54:43,190 were actually on the pond that I could see 1216 00:54:43,234 --> 00:54:44,931 from my dining room window. 1217 00:54:48,283 --> 00:54:50,807 - Joni's house on Lookout Mountain Avenue was-- 1218 00:54:50,850 --> 00:54:52,591 was one of those little typical 1219 00:54:52,635 --> 00:54:55,725 Laurel Canyon bungalows. 1220 00:54:55,768 --> 00:54:58,728 Wood shingles and a wood roof. 1221 00:54:58,771 --> 00:55:01,992 Big windows all over. 1222 00:55:02,035 --> 00:55:04,864 Big, beautiful, natural wood grand piano 1223 00:55:04,908 --> 00:55:06,997 in the living room, her paintings, 1224 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,478 her drawings, and little crystals 1225 00:55:09,521 --> 00:55:11,523 hanging in front of the window, 1226 00:55:11,567 --> 00:55:16,267 very conducive for the kind of music that she wrote. 1227 00:55:16,311 --> 00:55:18,574 The record company needed publicity pictures, 1228 00:55:18,617 --> 00:55:21,490 so I went up there with my partner, Gary Burden. 1229 00:55:21,533 --> 00:55:23,318 But as we approached the house, 1230 00:55:23,361 --> 00:55:25,624 she was leaning on the window waiting for us. 1231 00:55:25,668 --> 00:55:29,802 And luckily, Gary got into a whole conversation with her, 1232 00:55:29,846 --> 00:55:33,632 which allowed me to change from wide angle to telephoto 1233 00:55:33,676 --> 00:55:37,027 and just kept clicking away as long as she was talking. 1234 00:55:39,682 --> 00:55:41,074 - Joni Mitchell, 1235 00:55:41,118 --> 00:55:44,164 very young lady, Saskatchewan-born. 1236 00:55:44,208 --> 00:55:46,471 You're just starting out, sort of, aren't you? 1237 00:55:46,515 --> 00:55:48,473 - I consider that I've only started 1238 00:55:48,517 --> 00:55:50,693 within the last year because I've only felt 1239 00:55:50,736 --> 00:55:54,392 that I've begun to have my own--my own way to go, 1240 00:55:54,436 --> 00:55:56,176 my own songs, and my own guitar style, 1241 00:55:56,220 --> 00:55:59,789 and--and I'm starting to get my own vocal styling now. 1242 00:55:59,832 --> 00:56:01,399 - Joni had 20 1243 00:56:01,443 --> 00:56:03,619 of the best songs I'd ever heard. 1244 00:56:03,662 --> 00:56:05,490 And I said, "I would do anything 1245 00:56:05,534 --> 00:56:07,666 to work with you. What do I have to do?" 1246 00:56:07,710 --> 00:56:09,233 Joan did everything herself. 1247 00:56:09,276 --> 00:56:11,061 She booked her tour, she was her own agent. 1248 00:56:11,104 --> 00:56:12,671 She traveled all alone. And she said, 1249 00:56:12,715 --> 00:56:14,499 "I'm leaving for Detroit tomorrow. 1250 00:56:14,543 --> 00:56:16,719 "If you come with me, spend your own money. 1251 00:56:16,762 --> 00:56:18,198 I could use the company." 1252 00:56:18,242 --> 00:56:19,548 And so we went on the road together 1253 00:56:19,591 --> 00:56:22,420 for about three and a half, four weeks. 1254 00:56:22,464 --> 00:56:26,381 When we came back, Joni became my first client. 1255 00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:32,778 - All the New York companies passed, Sony and RCA and MGM. 1256 00:56:32,822 --> 00:56:35,433 They didn't really want any folk artist. 1257 00:56:35,477 --> 00:56:39,394 Vanguard had Joan Baez and Elektra had Judy Collins, 1258 00:56:39,437 --> 00:56:42,266 so it was very hard for Joni to get a deal. 1259 00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:44,224 - My music--it's on a guitar. 1260 00:56:44,268 --> 00:56:45,878 I look like a folk singer, and folk music 1261 00:56:45,922 --> 00:56:47,358 was already dead. 1262 00:56:47,402 --> 00:56:49,229 I had come in so late in the movement. 1263 00:56:49,273 --> 00:56:50,927 And everybody assumed I was a folk singer. 1264 00:56:50,970 --> 00:56:53,538 But in fact, I was really a classical musician 1265 00:56:53,582 --> 00:56:55,322 in a certain way. 1266 00:56:55,366 --> 00:56:59,675 - My goal was to go out to California. 1267 00:56:59,718 --> 00:57:02,417 And I played her demos for Warner Bros. 1268 00:57:02,460 --> 00:57:05,071 ["Song To A Seagull" playing] - ♪ Fly silly seabirds 1269 00:57:05,115 --> 00:57:08,988 ♪ No dreams can possess you 1270 00:57:09,032 --> 00:57:12,557 - That was my first deal I had ever made. 1271 00:57:12,601 --> 00:57:14,124 I hired David Crosby 1272 00:57:14,167 --> 00:57:17,170 to produce Joni's album for her first album. 1273 00:57:17,214 --> 00:57:19,390 He had just been kicked out of The Byrds 1274 00:57:19,434 --> 00:57:20,826 four or five months earlier. 1275 00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:22,480 He had met Joni in Florida. 1276 00:57:22,524 --> 00:57:25,570 - ♪ Have names they must call me ♪ 1277 00:57:25,614 --> 00:57:27,050 - I walked in the door. 1278 00:57:27,093 --> 00:57:28,573 She was singing "Michael From Mountains" 1279 00:57:28,617 --> 00:57:32,272 or "Both Sides Now," and just stunned me. 1280 00:57:32,316 --> 00:57:35,188 I was in love with her for a year. 1281 00:57:35,232 --> 00:57:36,625 - We were both just so excited 1282 00:57:36,668 --> 00:57:38,453 to bring her out to California. 1283 00:57:38,496 --> 00:57:41,673 - ♪ The seagulls fly out of reach... ♪ 1284 00:57:41,717 --> 00:57:43,762 - It was just a plethora of great bands 1285 00:57:43,806 --> 00:57:45,503 coming out of LA at that time. 1286 00:57:45,547 --> 00:57:48,941 The Doors and The Turtles and Mamas and Papas. 1287 00:57:48,985 --> 00:57:50,160 ["Twelve Thirty" playing] 1288 00:57:50,203 --> 00:57:52,684 - ♪ Young girls are coming 1289 00:57:52,728 --> 00:57:58,734 ♪ To the canyon 1290 00:57:58,777 --> 00:58:00,562 ♪ And in the mornings 1291 00:58:00,605 --> 00:58:06,089 ♪ I can see them walking 1292 00:58:06,132 --> 00:58:08,526 - California--my work is there. 1293 00:58:08,570 --> 00:58:10,833 I record there and I do a lot of television there. 1294 00:58:10,876 --> 00:58:15,272 But all work and no play makes Cass a dull girl. 1295 00:58:15,315 --> 00:58:18,623 - ♪ And I can't keep myself... ♪ 1296 00:58:18,667 --> 00:58:21,191 - I looked at 78 houses before I bought my house. 1297 00:58:21,234 --> 00:58:22,801 My house looks like it was just snatched 1298 00:58:22,845 --> 00:58:24,237 out of Connecticut and sat right there 1299 00:58:24,281 --> 00:58:25,804 in the middle of California. 1300 00:58:25,848 --> 00:58:30,113 A lot of roses and a lot of grounds around it. 1301 00:58:30,156 --> 00:58:31,941 - Very often, Mama Cass-- 1302 00:58:31,984 --> 00:58:33,508 she would be on a TV show 1303 00:58:33,551 --> 00:58:35,161 with The Mamas and Papas. 1304 00:58:35,205 --> 00:58:37,076 And she would meet young groups 1305 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,078 from England over for the first time. 1306 00:58:39,122 --> 00:58:40,993 And that was the case with Cream, 1307 00:58:41,037 --> 00:58:42,821 and she met Eric Clapton. 1308 00:58:42,865 --> 00:58:44,170 He didn't know anybody. 1309 00:58:44,214 --> 00:58:45,694 He'd never been to the US before. 1310 00:58:45,737 --> 00:58:47,217 She said, "Well, come up to my house. 1311 00:58:47,260 --> 00:58:48,827 "I'll bring some friends over. 1312 00:58:48,871 --> 00:58:51,177 We'll have a little barbecue in the backyard." 1313 00:58:51,221 --> 00:58:53,353 She invited Micky Dolenz. 1314 00:58:53,397 --> 00:58:56,226 He came over with a sixteen-millimeter camera 1315 00:58:56,269 --> 00:58:58,445 and David Crosby. 1316 00:58:58,489 --> 00:59:00,839 Crosby brought his new protégé, 1317 00:59:00,883 --> 00:59:03,712 his new find, this young girl 1318 00:59:03,755 --> 00:59:06,018 who sang her own songs. 1319 00:59:06,062 --> 00:59:09,674 And she came over and sat on the grass with her guitar. 1320 00:59:14,549 --> 00:59:16,551 Eric Clapton was sitting there, 1321 00:59:16,594 --> 00:59:19,858 staring at her because she tuned to a chord. 1322 00:59:19,902 --> 00:59:22,426 It's a kind of a folk tuning. You tune to a chord 1323 00:59:22,469 --> 00:59:24,950 and then you don't do the normal fingering. 1324 00:59:24,994 --> 00:59:26,430 He had never seen this before. 1325 00:59:26,473 --> 00:59:28,867 He sat there just amazed. 1326 00:59:28,911 --> 00:59:31,566 - ♪ Fly silly seabird 1327 00:59:31,609 --> 00:59:36,614 ♪ No dreams can possess you 1328 00:59:36,658 --> 00:59:39,312 ♪ No voices can blame you 1329 00:59:39,356 --> 00:59:44,448 ♪ For sun on your wings 1330 00:59:44,491 --> 00:59:46,015 - I produced her first album. 1331 00:59:46,058 --> 00:59:48,583 - ♪ My gentle relations 1332 00:59:48,626 --> 00:59:50,410 - I didn't really know what I was doing. 1333 00:59:50,454 --> 00:59:52,761 I just knew that I wanted to get her on tape 1334 00:59:52,804 --> 00:59:56,416 without a lot of other crud being put on top of it. 1335 00:59:56,460 --> 01:00:02,553 - ♪ Freedom of all flying things ♪ 1336 01:00:02,597 --> 01:00:04,642 - I think perhaps without David's protection, 1337 01:00:04,686 --> 01:00:07,123 they might have set some kind of producer on me 1338 01:00:07,166 --> 01:00:09,516 who would try to make an apple out of an orange. 1339 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,258 His instincts were, "I wanna pretend to produce you 1340 01:00:12,302 --> 01:00:13,738 and I'm not gonna do anything." 1341 01:00:13,782 --> 01:00:16,393 He basically was going to protect it 1342 01:00:16,436 --> 01:00:18,917 because he liked it the way it was. 1343 01:00:18,961 --> 01:00:22,268 - ♪ I came to the city 1344 01:00:22,312 --> 01:00:26,185 ♪ And lived like old Crusoe 1345 01:00:26,229 --> 01:00:29,406 ♪ On an island of noise 1346 01:00:29,449 --> 01:00:31,495 - When I climbed up my first palm tree 1347 01:00:31,538 --> 01:00:33,453 at Los Angeles International Airport, 1348 01:00:33,497 --> 01:00:36,326 I--I never wanted to go back to England after that. 1349 01:00:36,369 --> 01:00:37,501 ["Carrie Anne" playing] 1350 01:00:37,544 --> 01:00:39,285 - ♪ Hey, Carrie Anne 1351 01:00:39,329 --> 01:00:41,113 ♪ What's your game now? 1352 01:00:41,157 --> 01:00:44,073 ♪ Can anybody play? 1353 01:00:44,116 --> 01:00:46,292 - I had come to Los Angeles with my band 1354 01:00:46,336 --> 01:00:47,946 from the north of England. 1355 01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:50,949 I'd already been in The Hollies for seven years. 1356 01:00:50,993 --> 01:00:52,951 They had struck a formula for success, 1357 01:00:52,995 --> 01:00:56,215 and were content to drive that formula into the ground. 1358 01:00:56,259 --> 01:00:58,391 They didn't wanna follow my urge 1359 01:00:58,435 --> 01:01:00,698 to keep getting better and moving forward. 1360 01:01:00,742 --> 01:01:04,659 - ♪ When the lesson's over, you'll be with me ♪ 1361 01:01:04,702 --> 01:01:07,183 - I began to realize that... 1362 01:01:07,226 --> 01:01:09,054 I was in the wrong place. 1363 01:01:09,098 --> 01:01:11,840 - ♪ Hey, Carrie Anne 1364 01:01:11,883 --> 01:01:14,407 - The Hollies were being thrown a party 1365 01:01:14,451 --> 01:01:16,366 by a record company. 1366 01:01:16,409 --> 01:01:17,846 This kid comes up to us and he goes, 1367 01:01:17,889 --> 01:01:19,674 "What are you guys doing after this? 1368 01:01:19,717 --> 01:01:20,979 "I have these friends that are making a record 1369 01:01:21,023 --> 01:01:22,589 "down the street. 1370 01:01:22,633 --> 01:01:24,156 They're called The Mamas and the Papas." 1371 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,376 I said, "Let's go." 1372 01:01:26,419 --> 01:01:28,813 We went down to this recording studio. 1373 01:01:28,857 --> 01:01:31,207 John and Michelle and Denny were recording, 1374 01:01:31,250 --> 01:01:32,904 but Cass was standing outside. 1375 01:01:32,948 --> 01:01:36,168 And Cass said to me, "What are you doing tomorrow?" 1376 01:01:36,212 --> 01:01:38,867 She picked me up at noon in her convertible Porsche. 1377 01:01:38,910 --> 01:01:41,521 She drove me 10 minutes to Laurel Canyon, 1378 01:01:41,565 --> 01:01:44,220 very close to Hollywood, drove up to this place 1379 01:01:44,263 --> 01:01:47,353 with another convertible Porsche in that driveway. 1380 01:01:47,397 --> 01:01:49,442 We walked up the stairs. 1381 01:01:49,486 --> 01:01:50,835 There was the guy playing 1382 01:01:50,879 --> 01:01:52,707 an acoustic guitar on the couch. 1383 01:01:52,750 --> 01:01:54,752 And he's got a shoebox, the lid is full of grass, 1384 01:01:54,796 --> 01:01:56,711 and he's separating the grass from the stems 1385 01:01:56,754 --> 01:02:00,062 and rolling perfect joints while still talking to me, 1386 01:02:00,105 --> 01:02:02,281 never losing eye contact. 1387 01:02:02,325 --> 01:02:05,023 I'm going, "Wow. This is insane." 1388 01:02:05,067 --> 01:02:06,546 That's how I first met Crosby. 1389 01:02:06,590 --> 01:02:09,332 And my life has never been the same. 1390 01:02:11,421 --> 01:02:12,901 - I had the best pot in town. 1391 01:02:12,944 --> 01:02:16,556 I'd give people a joint and they get stomped, 1392 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,037 completely stoned out of their gourds. 1393 01:02:19,081 --> 01:02:22,258 And I said, "Hey, Johnny. Why don't you sing a song?" 1394 01:02:22,301 --> 01:02:24,521 They'd listen to her sing, and then their brains 1395 01:02:24,564 --> 01:02:26,566 would run out their nose on the floor in a puddle, 1396 01:02:26,610 --> 01:02:28,351 and that'd be that. 1397 01:02:30,527 --> 01:02:33,095 - Drugs in the '60s-- 1398 01:02:33,138 --> 01:02:36,663 they did some good and they did some harm, obviously. 1399 01:02:38,448 --> 01:02:41,059 I took two tabs of acid one time 1400 01:02:41,103 --> 01:02:42,757 and saw electricity. 1401 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,889 Not only that, I saw theoretical physics 1402 01:02:44,933 --> 01:02:47,326 with my own eyes. I saw the luminous fibers 1403 01:02:47,370 --> 01:02:49,285 that chain everything together. 1404 01:02:51,461 --> 01:02:54,072 Everything, from rocks to trees, 1405 01:02:54,116 --> 01:02:56,901 we were all suspended in this plasma. 1406 01:02:56,945 --> 01:02:59,774 These are nature's telephone wires. 1407 01:03:00,687 --> 01:03:02,341 Man doesn't make anything 1408 01:03:02,385 --> 01:03:04,735 that he doesn't imitate from nature. 1409 01:03:06,215 --> 01:03:08,695 The insights that came from that one trip 1410 01:03:08,739 --> 01:03:10,610 changed my psychology so radically 1411 01:03:10,654 --> 01:03:13,744 that I had to withdraw and think about it. 1412 01:03:13,788 --> 01:03:15,833 A writer can move time around. 1413 01:03:15,877 --> 01:03:17,530 You can take incidents that happened 1414 01:03:17,574 --> 01:03:19,054 over a span of 15 years 1415 01:03:19,097 --> 01:03:21,665 and make them all occur in the same moment. 1416 01:03:21,708 --> 01:03:23,667 Maybe the truth doesn't rhyme. 1417 01:03:25,495 --> 01:03:27,236 - It was really a spiritual practice. 1418 01:03:27,279 --> 01:03:31,806 We smoked grass to understand, to learn. 1419 01:03:32,850 --> 01:03:35,287 As Ray Manzarek once famously said, 1420 01:03:35,331 --> 01:03:36,462 "These weren't drugs. 1421 01:03:36,506 --> 01:03:38,508 These were sacraments." 1422 01:03:39,117 --> 01:03:42,120 - My experiments with dope opened my eyes 1423 01:03:42,164 --> 01:03:44,557 to the fact that there was much more to music 1424 01:03:44,601 --> 01:03:47,691 than creating a three-minute pop hit, 1425 01:03:47,734 --> 01:03:50,825 which The Hollies were really in that. 1426 01:03:50,868 --> 01:03:53,958 - Music--it's an expression of the younger generation. 1427 01:03:54,002 --> 01:03:56,047 We can go in front of a television camera, 1428 01:03:56,091 --> 01:03:57,744 we can go on the air, 1429 01:03:57,788 --> 01:04:01,096 we can stop world wars before they ever started. 1430 01:04:01,139 --> 01:04:03,054 Love rules the world. 1431 01:04:04,664 --> 01:04:06,884 - The Hollies were doing a show in Ottawa. 1432 01:04:06,928 --> 01:04:08,581 We were in one of those places 1433 01:04:08,625 --> 01:04:10,148 where you get a cheap glass of wine, 1434 01:04:10,192 --> 01:04:12,411 and my tour manager is talking in my ear. 1435 01:04:12,455 --> 01:04:14,109 And I'm saying, "Please. Please." 1436 01:04:14,152 --> 01:04:15,762 And he's going on me. And I said, "Please. 1437 01:04:15,806 --> 01:04:17,416 "I'm trying to catch the eye 1438 01:04:17,460 --> 01:04:19,201 of this fucking beautiful woman in the corner." 1439 01:04:19,244 --> 01:04:20,985 He said, "Well, if you'd fucking listen to me, 1440 01:04:21,029 --> 01:04:23,466 "I'm trying to tell you that's Joni Mitchell. 1441 01:04:23,509 --> 01:04:25,511 And she wants to see you." 1442 01:04:25,555 --> 01:04:27,035 So, I go over to Joni, 1443 01:04:27,078 --> 01:04:29,994 she has this pale, blue silk dress on, 1444 01:04:30,038 --> 01:04:33,650 and a music box with a broken note on her lap. 1445 01:04:33,693 --> 01:04:36,566 And it would go 1446 01:04:36,609 --> 01:04:38,089 And--and we laughed about that. 1447 01:04:38,133 --> 01:04:40,875 You know, that's how I met Joni. 1448 01:04:42,050 --> 01:04:44,008 It's a simple stuff. 1449 01:04:44,052 --> 01:04:45,792 But I was in love from the moment 1450 01:04:45,836 --> 01:04:47,925 that I ever spent any time with her. 1451 01:04:49,231 --> 01:04:52,147 I went back to undo my life in England after that. 1452 01:04:55,977 --> 01:04:59,763 - By this time, I had moved to Laurel Canyon. 1453 01:04:59,806 --> 01:05:03,332 My house was two houses down from Joni's house. 1454 01:05:03,375 --> 01:05:06,509 Everyone was just living there, doing demos, 1455 01:05:06,552 --> 01:05:08,076 forming bands, 1456 01:05:08,119 --> 01:05:10,556 forming relationships. 1457 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,297 I wanted to start my own company, 1458 01:05:12,341 --> 01:05:16,040 so I opened my own office, Lookout Management. 1459 01:05:16,084 --> 01:05:18,347 We were in the recording studio, 1460 01:05:18,390 --> 01:05:19,914 Sunset Sound. 1461 01:05:19,957 --> 01:05:21,916 Someone came in and said, "Hey, Joan, 1462 01:05:21,959 --> 01:05:24,570 The Buffalo Springfield are in Room B. 1463 01:05:24,614 --> 01:05:26,746 You should come by and say hello." 1464 01:05:26,790 --> 01:05:28,270 Joni had been an old friend of Neil's. 1465 01:05:28,313 --> 01:05:30,925 They had gone the Toronto Folk Circuit. 1466 01:05:30,968 --> 01:05:33,231 So after our session, we went by 1467 01:05:33,275 --> 01:05:35,103 where The Springfield were recording. 1468 01:05:35,146 --> 01:05:37,366 That night, we went to Ben Frank's, 1469 01:05:37,409 --> 01:05:38,976 a diner that was open late 1470 01:05:39,020 --> 01:05:40,673 where all the musicians usually would come 1471 01:05:40,717 --> 01:05:42,980 after they played around midnight. 1472 01:05:43,024 --> 01:05:45,591 The Springfield had just fired their manager, 1473 01:05:45,635 --> 01:05:49,552 and you could see that Neil wanted to leave the band. 1474 01:05:50,422 --> 01:05:52,163 - Neil, The Buffalo Springfield 1475 01:05:52,207 --> 01:05:54,252 lasted two and a half years and produced 1476 01:05:54,296 --> 01:05:56,689 some of the more interesting sounds on the scene. 1477 01:05:56,733 --> 01:05:59,301 Why is it in existence no longer? 1478 01:05:59,344 --> 01:06:00,780 - Well, we didn't achieve 1479 01:06:00,824 --> 01:06:02,304 anywhere near the success 1480 01:06:02,347 --> 01:06:04,262 that we expected or wished to. 1481 01:06:04,306 --> 01:06:06,482 It's hard enough to live with yourself 1482 01:06:06,525 --> 01:06:09,224 when you've considered what you've done a failure. 1483 01:06:09,267 --> 01:06:10,965 Living with four other guys 1484 01:06:11,008 --> 01:06:12,792 is even harder, you know. 1485 01:06:12,836 --> 01:06:14,533 Just couldn't do it. 1486 01:06:14,577 --> 01:06:17,362 And I--I quit. 1487 01:06:17,406 --> 01:06:19,364 - We couldn't quite clear that final hump. 1488 01:06:19,408 --> 01:06:21,671 We get the big gigs and get paid all that money, 1489 01:06:21,714 --> 01:06:24,065 press agents, management, whatever. 1490 01:06:24,108 --> 01:06:25,892 And I think we were on the verge of it 1491 01:06:25,936 --> 01:06:29,287 when Neil took off to do his solo album 1492 01:06:29,331 --> 01:06:31,811 and David Crosby and I, 1493 01:06:31,855 --> 01:06:34,858 both having seen demise of our respective bands, 1494 01:06:34,901 --> 01:06:37,382 we were hanging out together for a period of months 1495 01:06:37,426 --> 01:06:40,124 trying to figure out what we're gonna do next. 1496 01:06:44,215 --> 01:06:48,002 - I had come to Los Angeles to spend some time with Joni. 1497 01:06:48,045 --> 01:06:50,656 There's other voices in the house. 1498 01:06:50,700 --> 01:06:52,136 It was David and Stephen. 1499 01:06:52,180 --> 01:06:54,617 After dinner, we smoked a big joint. 1500 01:06:54,660 --> 01:06:56,358 The Springfield had broken up. 1501 01:06:56,401 --> 01:06:58,186 David had been thrown out of The Byrds. 1502 01:06:58,229 --> 01:07:00,057 They were trying to get an Everly Brothers 1503 01:07:00,101 --> 01:07:03,191 duo thing together, and David said to Stephen, 1504 01:07:03,234 --> 01:07:04,627 "Sing that song." 1505 01:07:04,670 --> 01:07:05,671 ["You Don't Have To Cry" playing] 1506 01:07:05,715 --> 01:07:07,369 - ♪ In the mornin' 1507 01:07:07,412 --> 01:07:10,328 ♪ When you rise 1508 01:07:10,372 --> 01:07:11,938 ♪ Do you think of me 1509 01:07:11,982 --> 01:07:15,507 ♪ And how you left me cryin'? ♪ 1510 01:07:15,551 --> 01:07:16,943 - I said, "Holy shit. 1511 01:07:16,987 --> 01:07:18,815 Do me a favor. Sing it one more time." 1512 01:07:18,858 --> 01:07:22,340 - ♪ I said cry, my baby 1513 01:07:22,384 --> 01:07:26,736 ♪ You don't have to cry 1514 01:07:29,217 --> 01:07:31,088 - He got to the end of it and I said, 1515 01:07:31,132 --> 01:07:34,396 "I may sound crazy, but sing it one more time." 1516 01:07:34,439 --> 01:07:37,355 ♪ In the long run 1517 01:07:37,399 --> 01:07:40,358 ♪ It will make you cry 1518 01:07:40,402 --> 01:07:43,361 ♪ Make you crazy and old 1519 01:07:43,405 --> 01:07:46,364 ♪ Before your time 1520 01:07:46,408 --> 01:07:49,280 ♪ And the difference 1521 01:07:49,324 --> 01:07:51,587 ♪ Between me and you 1522 01:07:51,630 --> 01:07:53,893 ♪ I won't argue right or wrong ♪ 1523 01:07:53,937 --> 01:07:57,506 ♪ But I have time to cry, my baby ♪ 1524 01:07:57,549 --> 01:08:00,726 - The third time, he put the harmony on. 1525 01:08:00,770 --> 01:08:04,382 - It was an astounding thing. 1526 01:08:04,426 --> 01:08:06,384 - We stopped singing and said, 1527 01:08:06,428 --> 01:08:08,082 "What the fuck just happened?" 1528 01:08:08,125 --> 01:08:09,866 - Stephen and I didn't really know 1529 01:08:09,909 --> 01:08:12,782 what we wanted to do until we heard Graham. 1530 01:08:14,479 --> 01:08:16,568 Then we knew exactly 1531 01:08:16,612 --> 01:08:18,396 what we wanted to do, 1532 01:08:18,440 --> 01:08:19,615 and we did it. 1533 01:08:19,658 --> 01:08:23,053 ["Helplessly Hoping" playing] 1534 01:08:25,229 --> 01:08:28,102 ♪ Helplessly hoping 1535 01:08:28,145 --> 01:08:30,408 ♪ Her harlequin 1536 01:08:30,452 --> 01:08:33,150 ♪ Hovers nearby 1537 01:08:33,194 --> 01:08:35,631 ♪ Awaiting a word... 1538 01:08:35,674 --> 01:08:38,242 - We would go down to a friend's house and say, 1539 01:08:38,286 --> 01:08:41,637 "Listen to this," and we would blow their minds. 1540 01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,379 ♪ Of gentle true spirit 1541 01:08:44,422 --> 01:08:46,032 ♪ He runs 1542 01:08:46,076 --> 01:08:49,427 ♪ Wishing he could fly high 1543 01:08:49,471 --> 01:08:51,429 - We'd heard a lot of Peter, Paul, and Mary 1544 01:08:51,473 --> 01:08:53,257 and that three-part, 1545 01:08:53,301 --> 01:08:55,346 but we tried to make our voices 1546 01:08:55,390 --> 01:08:56,913 into one voice. 1547 01:08:56,956 --> 01:08:58,871 David's accent, and Stephen's accent, 1548 01:08:58,915 --> 01:09:00,743 and my accent, all coming together 1549 01:09:00,786 --> 01:09:02,136 with this one sound. 1550 01:09:02,179 --> 01:09:03,876 That's what was different. 1551 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,228 ♪ He waits by the window ♪ 1552 01:09:07,271 --> 01:09:08,838 ♪ And wonders 1553 01:09:08,881 --> 01:09:12,363 ♪ At the empty place inside 1554 01:09:12,407 --> 01:09:13,930 - When a chemistry happens 1555 01:09:13,973 --> 01:09:15,453 between people, musically, 1556 01:09:15,497 --> 01:09:17,412 it's magic. 1557 01:09:18,848 --> 01:09:20,110 You can't predict it, 1558 01:09:20,154 --> 01:09:23,287 but something happens, 1559 01:09:23,331 --> 01:09:24,854 something new. 1560 01:09:26,508 --> 01:09:30,294 ♪ Or even... 1561 01:09:30,338 --> 01:09:32,992 ♪ Hello? 1562 01:09:33,036 --> 01:09:35,865 - We had almost finished the record, 1563 01:09:35,908 --> 01:09:38,476 but we didn't have an album cover. 1564 01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:40,826 Henry, he would hang out a lot in the studio 1565 01:09:40,870 --> 01:09:43,525 while we were making that first record. 1566 01:09:43,568 --> 01:09:47,093 - Took them in a car and drove around West Hollywood. 1567 01:09:47,137 --> 01:09:48,747 We'd just see whatever came up. 1568 01:09:48,791 --> 01:09:51,185 Wherever we were, we'd turn that into a picture. 1569 01:09:51,228 --> 01:09:53,970 I would just shoot everything that happened. 1570 01:09:55,363 --> 01:09:57,974 And then we found this little house. 1571 01:09:58,017 --> 01:10:01,064 The house was empty. It was kind of boarded up. 1572 01:10:01,107 --> 01:10:02,892 - It was obviously dilapidated. 1573 01:10:02,935 --> 01:10:04,328 It looked as if nobody had lived there 1574 01:10:04,372 --> 01:10:06,504 for a few years. It was funky. 1575 01:10:06,548 --> 01:10:08,593 But it suited the music 1576 01:10:08,637 --> 01:10:10,508 that we wanted to present. 1577 01:10:10,552 --> 01:10:13,032 Laid back, denim, 1578 01:10:13,076 --> 01:10:16,688 hippy, long hair, dope, 1579 01:10:16,732 --> 01:10:18,342 that kind of a feeling. 1580 01:10:20,518 --> 01:10:23,434 The next morning, Henry comes down to the studio 1581 01:10:23,478 --> 01:10:25,219 with the proofs and we go, 1582 01:10:25,262 --> 01:10:29,048 "Shit. That's the one right there." 1583 01:10:29,092 --> 01:10:31,486 And we're in the wrong order. 1584 01:10:31,529 --> 01:10:33,662 - Nash, Stills, and Crosby, 1585 01:10:33,705 --> 01:10:35,446 well, flip it over, 1586 01:10:35,490 --> 01:10:38,014 but then Stephen would be playing the guitar backwards. 1587 01:10:38,057 --> 01:10:39,537 That would be a controversy. 1588 01:10:39,581 --> 01:10:42,018 So, I remember saying, "Well, let's just go back. 1589 01:10:42,061 --> 01:10:43,628 "Jump on the couch in the right order. 1590 01:10:43,672 --> 01:10:44,716 it'll take five minutes." 1591 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,065 So we went back in the car, 1592 01:10:46,109 --> 01:10:49,068 got there, and the house was gone. 1593 01:10:49,112 --> 01:10:52,071 - It was bulldozed into the back of the garden. 1594 01:10:52,115 --> 01:10:55,118 It was just a pile of shit. 1595 01:10:55,161 --> 01:10:58,817 And so we had to use the cover in the wrong order. 1596 01:11:02,604 --> 01:11:05,955 - Watching those guys discover their blend was exciting. 1597 01:11:05,998 --> 01:11:07,348 It was boys in love. 1598 01:11:07,391 --> 01:11:10,568 And I introduced them to Elliot, 1599 01:11:10,612 --> 01:11:12,396 so we became a stable. 1600 01:11:12,440 --> 01:11:16,052 - I was managing Joni, and Crosby, Stills, and Nash. 1601 01:11:16,095 --> 01:11:19,055 I liked working with artists, and their songs, 1602 01:11:19,098 --> 01:11:21,971 and developing them, and their show. 1603 01:11:22,014 --> 01:11:24,669 That first album is very unique. 1604 01:11:24,713 --> 01:11:26,715 - That first Crosby, Stills, & Nash record 1605 01:11:26,758 --> 01:11:30,109 was showing Stephen Stills to be the genius that he is. 1606 01:11:30,153 --> 01:11:32,068 He played almost every instrument 1607 01:11:32,111 --> 01:11:33,591 on that first record. 1608 01:11:33,635 --> 01:11:36,072 He played lead guitar, he played rhythm guitar, 1609 01:11:36,115 --> 01:11:37,552 he played bass, he played piano, 1610 01:11:37,595 --> 01:11:39,989 he played B3, he played percussion. 1611 01:11:40,032 --> 01:11:42,905 One night, we tried to cook "Long Time Gone" 1612 01:11:42,948 --> 01:11:44,341 and we weren't getting it. 1613 01:11:44,385 --> 01:11:46,169 He says, "You know what? Go home. Go." 1614 01:11:46,212 --> 01:11:47,953 And when we came back the next day, 1615 01:11:47,997 --> 01:11:51,783 he had created the track to "Long Time Gone." 1616 01:11:51,827 --> 01:11:53,872 ["Long Time Gone" playing] 1617 01:11:53,916 --> 01:11:57,485 - ♪ It's been a long 1618 01:11:58,616 --> 01:12:00,618 ♪ Time comin' 1619 01:12:00,662 --> 01:12:03,447 - We realized when the record was number one 1620 01:12:03,491 --> 01:12:05,841 that we would have to go out and play live. 1621 01:12:05,884 --> 01:12:07,364 Stephen realized that David and I 1622 01:12:07,408 --> 01:12:09,105 didn't play guitar well enough 1623 01:12:09,148 --> 01:12:10,976 to play lead with him. 1624 01:12:11,020 --> 01:12:13,196 He schemed with Elliot 1625 01:12:13,239 --> 01:12:15,503 and got Neil involved. 1626 01:12:16,417 --> 01:12:18,810 - And I said, "Wait a second here. 1627 01:12:18,854 --> 01:12:22,074 "We just created this beautiful harmony sound. 1628 01:12:22,118 --> 01:12:24,250 You wanna add another voice?" 1629 01:12:24,294 --> 01:12:25,643 I knew that he was a great writer. 1630 01:12:25,687 --> 01:12:27,471 I knew that he was a fine singer, 1631 01:12:27,515 --> 01:12:29,255 but I said, "Why the fuck should we invite you 1632 01:12:29,299 --> 01:12:31,083 into this band, Neil?" 1633 01:12:31,127 --> 01:12:32,607 He goes, "You ever heard me and Stephen 1634 01:12:32,650 --> 01:12:34,348 played guitar together?" 1635 01:12:34,391 --> 01:12:35,218 "Yeah." 1636 01:12:35,261 --> 01:12:37,786 He said, "That's why." 1637 01:12:50,842 --> 01:12:54,803 - Neil joined for the tour. We did Chicago Auditorium. 1638 01:12:54,846 --> 01:12:57,153 Two nights before Woodstock. 1639 01:13:21,133 --> 01:13:23,353 - The Woodstock... It's funny. 1640 01:13:23,397 --> 01:13:25,529 That whole thing started with one of those phone calls 1641 01:13:25,573 --> 01:13:27,705 in my kitchen in Laurel Canyon. 1642 01:13:27,749 --> 01:13:29,533 "Henry, you should be out here in New York. 1643 01:13:29,577 --> 01:13:32,449 We're gonna have a huge music concert." 1644 01:13:32,493 --> 01:13:34,408 So I got out there and spent two weeks 1645 01:13:34,451 --> 01:13:36,758 photographing the building of the whole stage, 1646 01:13:36,801 --> 01:13:38,237 and the grounds, 1647 01:13:38,281 --> 01:13:40,370 and the concert itself for three days. 1648 01:13:41,458 --> 01:13:43,417 - Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young. 1649 01:13:43,460 --> 01:13:46,463 We went there on a helicopter. 1650 01:13:46,507 --> 01:13:48,726 We were nearly about to go on. 1651 01:13:48,770 --> 01:13:51,990 Neil said, "I do not wanna be filmed. 1652 01:13:52,034 --> 01:13:53,992 "Period. I'm here for a concert. 1653 01:13:54,036 --> 01:13:55,994 "I'm gonna play my ass off 1654 01:13:56,038 --> 01:13:58,170 for the people that are here." 1655 01:13:59,302 --> 01:14:01,260 So he was never filmed. 1656 01:14:01,304 --> 01:14:05,264 - Ladies and gentleman, please welcome with us, 1657 01:14:05,308 --> 01:14:09,486 Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young. 1658 01:14:10,661 --> 01:14:13,664 - I remember being terrified. 1659 01:14:13,708 --> 01:14:16,058 But nobody had seen us try to get up 1660 01:14:16,101 --> 01:14:17,625 and sing harmony together, 1661 01:14:17,668 --> 01:14:19,017 so they all came. 1662 01:14:19,061 --> 01:14:20,497 ["Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" playing] 1663 01:14:20,541 --> 01:14:22,020 ♪ It's getting to the point ♪ 1664 01:14:22,064 --> 01:14:26,677 ♪ Where I'm no fun anymore 1665 01:14:27,896 --> 01:14:31,421 - ♪ I am sorry... 1666 01:14:32,509 --> 01:14:36,513 - Everybody we thought was cool in the world 1667 01:14:36,557 --> 01:14:37,775 was standing 1668 01:14:37,819 --> 01:14:40,125 in a huge semicircle behind us. 1669 01:14:40,169 --> 01:14:43,781 - Dead Airplane Band, Hendricks, Who-- 1670 01:14:43,825 --> 01:14:45,783 they were all standing there on stage. 1671 01:14:45,827 --> 01:14:47,263 If it was gonna collapse, 1672 01:14:47,306 --> 01:14:48,656 that's when it would've collapsed. 1673 01:15:37,574 --> 01:15:39,184 - Everybody is really excited. 1674 01:15:39,228 --> 01:15:41,056 You know, you're looking going, 1675 01:15:41,099 --> 01:15:43,754 "Wow, we've never seen this many people at a show before." 1676 01:15:45,626 --> 01:15:47,845 - When it happened for the first time, 1677 01:15:47,889 --> 01:15:50,195 it was something special, because there you were, 1678 01:15:50,239 --> 01:15:53,024 and then we're just realizing, "Hey, we have a generation. 1679 01:15:53,068 --> 01:15:54,678 "We are somebody. 1680 01:15:54,722 --> 01:15:56,724 All of these people are with us." 1681 01:15:56,767 --> 01:15:58,595 - Standing on the stage looking out, 1682 01:15:58,639 --> 01:16:00,510 a sea of faces going off 1683 01:16:00,554 --> 01:16:02,947 all the way back to the horizon. 1684 01:16:02,991 --> 01:16:05,515 All the way to the left and all the way to the right, 1685 01:16:05,559 --> 01:16:07,865 is solid people, 1686 01:16:07,909 --> 01:16:11,565 filling an entire valley, saying, "Wow." 1687 01:16:11,608 --> 01:16:13,741 That was the feeling of Woodstock. 1688 01:16:15,525 --> 01:16:17,875 - So the music is part of that. 1689 01:16:17,919 --> 01:16:21,226 The music is not a commodity or a content. 1690 01:16:21,270 --> 01:16:23,011 The music is the life. 1691 01:16:23,054 --> 01:16:25,491 You're singing your songs and the people are listening. 1692 01:16:25,535 --> 01:16:27,406 It's going back and forth right now. 1693 01:16:27,450 --> 01:16:29,452 That's what was so beautiful. 1694 01:16:30,758 --> 01:16:33,717 - There was a feeling going on with everybody at that point. 1695 01:16:33,761 --> 01:16:37,460 We felt very encouraged by seeing each other. 1696 01:16:37,503 --> 01:16:40,681 Everybody was thrilled that there were so many of us. 1697 01:16:41,943 --> 01:16:43,422 We thought, "Hey, 1698 01:16:43,466 --> 01:16:45,381 we're gonna change everything." 1699 01:16:48,123 --> 01:16:49,777 Didn't work out that way. 1700 01:17:05,923 --> 01:17:09,187 ["So You Want to Be a Rock 'n' Roll Star" playing] 1701 01:17:32,776 --> 01:17:35,474 - ♪ So you want to be a rock and roll star? ♪ 1702 01:17:35,518 --> 01:17:39,043 ♪ Then listen now to what I say ♪ 1703 01:17:39,087 --> 01:17:41,567 ♪ Just get an electric guitar ♪ 1704 01:17:41,611 --> 01:17:45,528 ♪ Then take some time and learn how to play ♪ 1705 01:17:45,571 --> 01:17:48,009 ♪ And with your hair swung right ♪ 1706 01:17:48,052 --> 01:17:49,488 ♪ And your pants too tight 1707 01:17:49,532 --> 01:17:51,795 ♪ It's gonna be all right 1708 01:17:51,839 --> 01:17:54,102 ♪ Then it's time to go downtown ♪ 1709 01:17:54,145 --> 01:17:58,193 ♪ Where the agent man won't let you down ♪ 1710 01:17:58,236 --> 01:18:00,108 ♪ Sell your soul to the company ♪ 1711 01:18:00,151 --> 01:18:04,155 ♪ Who are waiting there to sell plastic ware ♪ 1712 01:18:04,199 --> 01:18:07,985 ♪ And in a week or two if you make the charts ♪ 1713 01:18:08,029 --> 01:18:10,727 ♪ The girls will tear you apart ♪ 1714 01:18:35,230 --> 01:18:37,711 ♪ The price you paid for your riches and fame ♪ 1715 01:18:37,754 --> 01:18:39,408 ♪ Was it all a strange game? 1716 01:18:39,451 --> 01:18:41,279 ♪ You're a little insane 1717 01:18:41,323 --> 01:18:44,195 ♪ The money, the fame, and the public acclaim ♪ 1718 01:18:44,239 --> 01:18:45,631 ♪ Don't forget who you are 1719 01:18:45,675 --> 01:18:47,764 ♪ You're a rock and roll star ♪ 121620

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