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There is a myth.

When the first ships arrived to a specific continent,

all but a few indigenous people could see them, the mystics.

They were the ones who had deeper relationships

with the unknown and unseen.

And once they told the other people what they saw,

suddenly everyone could see them.

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And it wasn't that the ships were invisible.

They were there.

It was the idea that people were unable to perceive what they couldn't

understand.

When we go out into nature and experience something

we can't comprehend, we recognize that others may not understand,

perhaps for the same reason.

But the more we speak of the subject with grace and dignity

and elegance, others too will begin to perceive the extraordinary.

And perhaps they too will have a flash of beauty.

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(Speaking in native language)

Pray to you, creator, in the four directions.

I've spoken with my ancestors, with our elders, and peoples

all across turtle island to speak about the beings that have walked

this land forever before us.

I offer you sage, tobacco, sit here before the fire,

to speak from the heart about very important matter,

about the unknown, the unseen, and the unbelievable to many.

These beings that we're going to speak of,

I ask you forgiveness for talking so plainly, talking so openly.

I hope that you can find it in yourselves

to allow me to speak of these things.

I offer you tobacco, napagi, to begin these talks.

I am denuhuto, reiben, and the wolf brings medicine.

I'm koyukon athabaskan in muscogee creek.

I'm adopted lakota by the oglala family.

These beings have been here a lot longer than we have.

And they despise us because we have broken the rules, the laws,

the universal truths, the spiritual way of being

in balance with creation.

But they too have a language, a culture, ceremonies.

They take care of their own.

That's why we can't find them.

They don't want to be seen.

They don't want to be known.

They just want to live.

In our koyukon way, we don't openly discuss or talk

about these woodsmen, these beings.

This world that we live in is both spiritual and physical.

Some people like to use the terms interdimensional,

but it's all the same thing.

They can seamlessly move in between.

The way that they live in the world without the ego,

without constraints of the language and the understandings

and the ego of science takes us away from that instinctual,

primitive way.

They do have ways from what we understand to emit,

maybe ultra-low frequencies to stun us so that they can move

out of the area.

Not far from here, the mount hood national forest,

I was out gathering medicines with some people. And two of the people I was with,

they were stunted.

And I wasn't affected.

And I don't know how one was able to move all the way around us

as fast as it did, and then the other ones to move away.

I grew up hunting, fishing in Alaska.

I climbed a lot of mountains and seen a lot of things.

But the way these things moved, I knew they were there,

and I knew they were moving, but I couldn't really see them.

There's a lot of language today that people use,

like cloaking, like moving in and out of the physical.

I think trying to talk about these things that way

is a science-based ego thing that just has no business in the world.

It's not how the natural world works.

And if you try to look at things from that lens,

that's all you're going to end up with is bigger questions.

If you look at these beings and these things,

then the world as a spiritual entity,

all things are made up of the same things,

you'll begin to see the relationships and how things work.

These beings have the ability to do things that we aren't able to,

mostly because of our ego.

So if you trust and believe in the supernatural,

I think you'll get a lot further in this world.

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I'm a timber cruiser, and I collect timber data,

meaning the sizes and the health of the trees.

And so we put plots to not go out and count every tree.

It was late fall, almost early winter,

and as I arrived in this area and I started working,

I was into it for about an hour, and then I got into this creek.

As I would go around and measure the trees within my plot,

something was moving, and I kept looking in that direction,

and I couldn't see it.

And then as I finished up that plot,

then that's when it vocalized at me.

[Growling]

Bears, you know, cougars, anything that growls in the woods

could have made that sound.

But what made this different from hearing those sounds

was this sound was projected at me,

and I felt vibration go through, like a wave through my body

when this sound was projected at me.

And I put my hands up, and my whole body was tingling.

And I was like, "I'd never felt like this before."

And I was like, "what is that?"

Because it did it twice.

So I dropped down to the ground where there were no limbs,

and it was so dark over there, I couldn't see anything,

even on the ground.

So I finished up, went to my next plot,

and then it did it again as soon as I stopped.

I jumped in the truck, I started up,

and I hightailed it out of there, and I got out.

When I got back to the office, I met up with my other coworkers,

and I told them what was going on up there.

I says, "I need help. I need help finish this up.

I don't want to go back in there by myself."

They told me about their experiences, different places,

and they said, "we know what's there",

and you can finish that by yourself.

"We're not going to go out there."

So that was my first experience with them.

I served a total of a little over 16 years in the air force

and the U.S. army, both background in intelligence analysis.

The sighting I had in 2018, I actually did not see it first.

I had some relatives up here,

and they had brought along a couple of friends that were sisters as well.

One of the sisters and I were walking back towards the vehicle,

and she looked up along the Ridge line, and she said, "what's that?"

So I kind of looked up and saw this being, walking,

with no issues at all across some pretty steep and treacherous terrain,

about to kind of crest a Ridge line.

So I ran around to pull out my binoculars,

and by the time I looked up, it was gone.

It kind of bothered me the whole way home,

and then when I got home and shared it, that's what really pulled me in.

Even after all the research, I still wasn't ready to admit

to what I thought I had seen.

It wasn't until I met a fellow named Joe houser and Ron morehead.

After talking to them, you know, I mean, I kind of had "aha" moments.

It was like, "you know what you're seeing."

And that's when you kind of realize that it's really okay.

You know, you're not out there alone in this belief.

There are a lot of people out there that basically went through the same thing.

Then you move forward from there.

That's when the real questions start.

I was familiar with Aristotle's metaphysics, his writings.

I think a lot of people, when they think of metaphysics,

they think of the supernatural.

I don't go at it from that supernatural perspective.

I go at it from the perspective of what is, what could be, what might be.

Based on the knowledge we have, what we learn about it.

So why shouldn't we examine all the evidence, you know, all the theories,

any hypothesis, anything that supports the possibility

or the probability of existence.

There's something there that we don't know about.

Don't let mainstream science discourage your research.

And don't let that be the only reason why you're conducting research.

Like Aristotle says, you know, don't believe everything you hear is truth.

Be critical.

Evaluate what you believe in.

Not what they believe in.

The science that we don't understand, paranormal, above normal.

The problem is, is that there's such a stigma associated with that term.

Don't limit yourself because if you limit yourself metaphysically,

then you're not going to see what might be right in front of your nose.

You have to have belief in yourself.

No matter how difficult it gets, you have to believe in yourself.

And there's a saying that the most powerful thing in the universe is a belief.

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Daryl and I met at the cottage grove lakebed.

Daryl wanted to meet a local.

He had just moved to town, and he didn't really know any locals here.

They were into such a strange subject or hobby.

And so we set up kind of a date to meet up at his house,

and that's when things kind of took off.

When I first moved to the house down here below us,

I would hear things at night.

It prompted me to look for someone that knew what those sounds might be.

(Howling)

We were over the hill here probably as the crow flies three to five miles.

And we'd come around the turn, and tobe's like, "hold it!"

And in the bank with these giant impressions,

it looked like someone took a basketball and just about half of it

stamped it right into the soil.

It's rounded, and it's got hair striations in it.

And you can see there's actual hair within it right there.

There's a black hair.

Bring your shadow out just a bit there.

And then there's hair down in here.

All together, it looks like two knees, hairy knees,

and a long right something, maybe an arm.

And an angle like this on his arm is down in here.

And this one, his hand has made that disturbance.

Those knee prints got to be someone's...

Are those bear prints?

No.

Is there anything bearish about that?

No, because a bear would have claw marks.

Okay. And if it was...

What about a bear's knees or a bear's elbows?

A bear is not going to lean down on his knees on the side of the road.

Besides, he would have touched the top somewhere.

What about an elk?

No.

Clydesdale, moose, elephant. None.

Sasquatch.

None of the above.

Maybe something with hairy knees.

Oh, wow.

That was pretty cool when you were in general.

Yeah, you see that hair? Oh, yeah.

And then two.

Two, three.

You can see all those wrinkles? Yes.

Oh, look at that big one, guys. Oh, my gosh.

That's a good one.

Oh, hold that one up.

Whoa. Wow.

You see that one?

Oh, yeah.

That's good.

We excavated a 50-pound plaster cast of

what are now known to be knee impressions of an

unknown 1,000-pound plus hominid.

Then we had them looked at by a boeing engineer who did the weight displacement.

We had the hair tested by a vet.

It came back as an unknown hair type.

Then we brought them back to the property, and we put them inside that shop.

And when we did, that's when everything started happening around there.

As soon as those knees went inside the

garage, it was like the gates of Valhalla opened up

for a paranormal researcher.

There have been giants in our history.

King gilgamesh had to go into the forest.

Well, he did this on his own volition, and

he killed the guardian of the forest, who

was a big ogre-like, ape-like creature that lived in the forest.

The gilgamesh is one of humanity's oldest written stories on the planet.

The hindus have their army of ape-like

creatures that lived in the forest that krishna called upon

in Genesis and the Bible, they pushed the

giants back to a little town called hebron.

They didn't want them living there anymore with the regular humans.

There's the story of the nephilim, who were

these beings that were born out of gods into

human women, and they created giants.

If you look at Egyptian hieroglyphs, they

have larger-than-life humans, and they think

because they were just their pharaohs, and so they painted them large.

I'm really on the fence about the fact that

these things were considered to be stories

or metaphor by ancient peoples.

That's a stretch to say that what they wrote on their walls wasn't true.

I think they're what the indigenous and native Americans have called them.

They're the master of the forest, and that's been my experience of them.

I was born and raised Muslim.

The most prominent chapters in the quran states

that god is lord of the worlds with a plural.

We don't know what that means.

We don't have all of the answers, but we know it says "worlds," not just "world."

Part of that faith for us is the unseen

world, which we believe in angels and other beings.

Then there's one specific verse that says,

"and he creates that which you do not know."

For us, that is all we need to hear.

We believe that god gave us math and science

as a way to explain creation to us, because

we are logical creatures.

It's not a competition of god versus science.

Our knowledge of the universe and earth is

if you could take the tip of a needle and

dip it into the ocean, and the amount of

water on that needle is our knowledge and compared

to god's knowledge of all the oceans.

So we really know nothing.

Well, a lot of people have been raised

religiously and will not delve out of that at all.

A lot of people have been raised

scientifically and think that victorian physics is all there is.

They won't step out of that box.

But to me, they can go together.

They don't have to be separated like that.

I don't think spirituality and quantum physics are that far apart.

Now, Tesla said, "what one man calls god, another man calls the laws of physics."

I've got to say this.

People want to say I'm in the woo-woo factor here.

Well, okay, put me in the woo-woo factor.

That's where Tesla is.

That's where Einstein was.

I'm happy to be with that group of guys.

No problem at all.

That's the woo-woo that people are talking about.

Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Dr. Edgar Mitchell said, "there's no natural or supernatural phenomena."

There's only gaps in our knowledge of what is normal.

"We must strive to close those gaps of ignorance."

We are beings both of matter and spirit.

And so it is right that we go out into

nature and experience physical nature as well as

spiritual nature.

And when we entrain with the spiritual aspects

of nature, then we come into a place of balance.

And that's when the gates open.

When we're in a place of balance, both

intellectual and spiritual, we're able to perceive both

realities visible and invisible.

It simply takes walking out into nature.

From my perspective, because of my

worldview today, when a person has an encounter with

the paranormal or the extraordinary, it is an initiation.

And I think that everyone at some point in their life gets the invitation.

Not everyone rsvps.

Sometimes we push it aside, but it is

nature's way of showing us the true reality as it is,

because nature is visible.

It's an ecosystem.

It's complex.

But there's an invisible aspect to nature as

well, the spiritual aspect, because everything

is physical and spiritual.

When we have these extraordinary

experiences, they're asking us to step onto a path of

commencement, of study, and to see the

universe as it truly is, both visible and invisible.

You could say that it's very much like quanta, waves, and particles.

These experiences are real and unreal, both here and not here.

But they exist.

At some point, if a bigfoot crosses your path, I believe there's a reason for it.

It's to open you up.

Bigfoot is perhaps a gate, your first gate.

And there are many gates.

The entire paranormal lexicon, each

experience or being could be considered a first gate.

And once those gates of the gods open, they never close.

When I go into the woods, my intention is

always to have an open heart and to have experiences,

good experiences, positive experiences.

That's what I receive.

If you go into the woods, fear-based,

guaranteed, you are going to receive that energy.

That's the way it works.

That's the way thought works.

That's the way consciousness works.

As you open up the heart, you are expanding.

And energy-wise, you are feeling different frequencies around you.

And when you go to the woods and walk in

the woods, you start to get in alignment with

this energy.

And this energy will present itself in different 3D forms at first.

You will ask a question, and you will receive an answer.

One perfect example of that is I had this little epiphany.

I'm kind of known for taking a sketchbook out into the woods.

And I like to journal, and I like to sketch every day.

While I was hiking, I was asking, why is it that we get one footprint?

And that's it.

Sometimes you'll just see one footprint of a large nature, of a large something.

And I had this epiphany where it wasn't really

that they were stepping into 3D and presenting a foot.

Or that I was resonating and actually expanding

my own frequency and stepping into a different density.

And that presents itself in a different dimension.

Immediately I was like, if I could just write

this down, I'm going to forget this thought.

If I could just write this down.

And within 100 feet, there was a stick on

the trail that had a little red sketchbook

hanging off of it.

And it was empty.

This was a completely empty sketchbook.

It was brand new, and it was just hanging

by this little... Just like this off of the limb.

And there was nothing in it.

Absolutely nothing.

It was a brand new, clean little sketchbook.

You know, at first I was like, ok.

My physical 3D heaviness kind of just said, no, you know, somebody lost that.

Somebody found it.

Somebody put it up on the stick.

And then I realized, you just asked the question, and you got the answer.

And this was the answer.

And this is the book.

In 2010, I had a drum workshop.

And I didn't expect anything to happen

other than for people to come together and have

a good time and enjoy making a drum.

There was a man who came.

I'll just call him Richard.

I spent my life in the Sierra nevadas hunting,

fishing, and camping, but never seeing anything

really substantial.

And then I had an experience with my 15-year-old son.

We were night fishing.

And I wanted more answers.

And people had told me arla had a lot of activity around her land.

So I called her.

I said, look, I'll pay the entry fee, but I'm not interested in making any drums.

I want to cruise around on your land.

She said, I don't have any problem with that.

You're welcome to come.

And after two days of frustration and

running around day and night, I was sitting on the

tailgate of my pickup and just kind of

trying to figure where I wanted to go to from here

because I wasn't having much success.

And I guess out of frustration, I just

started speaking out very loudly in this wooded area

by myself.

I said, look, I'm just here to see you.

I'm not going to hurt you.

I just want to see you up close.

At some point, maybe 30 minutes later, I saw a figure coming out of the tree line.

We were setting around the fire.

And as I do a lot, I just get up and walk off into the woods at night.

And that particular night, I had done that.

She made a beeline straight towards me.

And as she walked up, I stood up and I said, arla, how did you know I was here?

And she said, they told me you were here.

And you got to understand, I'm still a

little bit skeptical here, but I'm thinking in my

mind, that's a pretty good trick.

And she looked at me and she said, do you want to go see them?

This is a man who had been in law

enforcement of one kind or another most of his life.

He had a good heart, a really good heart.

So I told him, I said, come on, let's just go walk in the woods.

So we took off to go down to the woods.

It was a little bit of a walk, several hundred yards.

And she started calling various names out loud.

And it wasn't, but just a short period of

time, I began to hear heavy footfall movement

coming from a creek on the other side of

that fence, maybe a couple hundred yards, but I

could hear the dry leaves crackling.

And then I start hearing more footfall and

noise coming from the northeast and then more

from the south, at least three different directions.

Could have been more.

And I'm looking for flashlight, glimmer, some

kind of light source in that near pitch dark.

I mean, I'm serious, folks.

I was pretty nervous and confused a little bit.

I wasn't in my comfort zone.

I was kind of casually, you know, subtly looking, but not sure what I would see.

And I care following movement in the brush.

Everything was paralleling us.

We walked on down to the woods and he had the experience of his life.

As clear as I'm speaking to you, the words,

expression, the thought, very clear, said,

why are you carrying a gun?

When that came through my head, I kind of freaked out.

I'd never had an experience like that.

And my thought to myself was, Rick, you're losing it.

You're hearing voices in your head.

And I tried to ignore it.

And whoever was speaking to me knew I was trying to ignore it.

And the profound volume or intensity was cranked up 10 times, you know?

And the words repeated, why are you carrying a gun?

And the second time it went through my head, I knew they're talking to me.

He had told me, I had somebody ask me, what was I doing with a gun in my pocket?

And I said, ask you?

And he said, yeah, in my mind.

And he said, all I knew was I had to tell the truth.

And I said, it's a tool of protection that I carried on my job.

I've carried it around my close friends and family.

I've never hurt them with it.

And I will not hurt you now.

And at that point, the voice said, step away from arla.

They knew he had a gun.

He answered right.

And they told him to step away from me.

And that's what he did.

There was not an ounce of surprise or expression on her face.

She just warmly smiled at me and she said, do what they tell you to do, you know?

And I will say that's probably one of the hardest few steps I've ever taken because

she was their friend.

I didn't know what I was encountering.

It was like I was stepping off the edge of the Grand Canyon or something.

I had no idea what was going to happen next.

The atmosphere is almost electrically charged.

It's almost dizzying, you know, overwhelming.

And I just kind of turned and tentatively

walked back and down about 50 feet down the

trail and this tall, hairy shape stepped

out from behind the tree, massive shoulders,

the classic artist illustration of a bigfoot, you know?

And he was stood out looking right at me.

I couldn't see his eyes, but I could see the dark recessed, you know, eye portion.

There was a two-thirds moon out, but I got a clear look at him.

My jaw dropped open.

I'm gawking at him because I'd never seen anything like this that close.

And then I see movement and a young female

steps out from behind the tree the same distance

on the trail.

After that happened, I had a paradigm shift in my thinking.

That was probably the most profound once-in-a-lifetime experience.

It's beyond what you can't express in words.

When something like that happens, it's, I just, I can't, you know, I can't put it into words

it's just, it's just really special.

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My name's Tara, and when I realized that I

could communicate with the dead, I started

doing psychic work and helping other people

communicate with loved ones and also crossing

spirits over.

And then this last year, I saw a bigfoot.

The first time I saw him, I saw him with

my eyes, and then I've seen him in my head a

few times.

And I can communicate with him quite regularly up here.

We come up into the woods quite a bit

because we do clearings up here, and we help ghosts

and spirits, and we communicate.

And we were up here doing a clearing one

day, and we heard a noise, and we looked over,

and it wasn't like 20 feet away, and he was standing there.

And he's just standing there staring at us,

and it scared us because we didn't know there

were any here, and we'd never seen one or

never even thought they existed, whether they

did or they didn't.

So it was kind of scary at first, but then

we realized that he's just looking at us.

He isn't being aggressive.

He's not throwing things at us or anything.

We talked about us.

We looked at each other, and when we looked back, he was gone.

Didn't make a noise, nothing.

And so we're like, "well, crap, they exist."

So that was kind of scary, but at the same

time really cool because we actually saw him.

Then after that, we saw them a couple more times.

I can see him in my head, and I saw him

and his family, a little one and a medium one

and an adult female.

I say he because I only communicate with him and his son, which is the little one.

I don't communicate with the mother or the teenaged one.

There's also a stone that he actually left

for me in the shape of his foot, which is kinda cool.

One of the first things that he showed me, a

native American sitting on the ground crisscross,

and him or others like him sitting with the native Americans.

The way that he showed me that they

communicated was they would stick their hands on top of

the native Americans' hands, and they were

able to transfer energy that way and communicate that way.

They lived with them, and they interacted with them on a regular basis.

It was very prevalent up in this area.

It was easy for them to communicate because

the native Americans, they said, were so open

to the spiritual world and other

dimensions, and they were able to receive the messages

very easily like I received them.

It was the same type of way.

They've told me that they do care about the

human race, and it makes them really sad that

we're destroying the planet.

They care enough that they actually used to

interact with us, and they want to do that

again, but they don't trust anyone.

The way that they know they can trust

somebody is that the people that they approach, like

myself and my partner that I work with, is because we look differently.

It's an energy, and they can actually see that energy.

So if they see somebody with that energy,

they will approach and watch from a distance,

and if they know that they can trust them

or interact with them telepathically, they

can at least get a feel and know if they're

going to want to interact with that person.

It takes a very long time for them to get up to that, though.

They're here because they want to be here,

and they're here, and they will communicate

with people if you have the right

intentions, and they know it if you do or you don't.

But if people are out there trying to hunt

them, and they're going to be out there destroying

the forest and causing problems, you're going to see less and less of them.

I would have never imagined that he

existed, and then once he did exist, I would never

imagine that he would communicate with me,

because I'm not any different than anybody else.

So why me?

I don't know, but I think he knows that I'm not out to get him.

I'm not out to get evidence, you know, to

take pictures and try to get him caught, and

he knows that.

So I think he's more open to communicate

with people who want the same thing as him.

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When we brought the knee impressions back to Darrell's house, it was fairly obvious

that these were large human-like knee impressions.

And I turned to Darrell, and I said, "listen, it could get really weird now."

There's rumors out there, including

talking to native American mill skahim that says,

if you bring back biologicals from sasquatch, there's a consequence to this.

And these were covered in hair.

I was mostly thinking that these knees are going to inspire some kind of response.

I had no idea how frequent the responses would come, however mysterious they were.

There's a trail right up here, and it was warm.

So Izzy and me went up there, and I was kind of scouting out for hunting, actually.

So we went on a little trail between some BlackBerry bushes, like you see.

And we get up in there, and her tongue's hanging out.

She's like, "hahaha."

So I'm like, "dang, I forgot the water."

So we just walked up this narrow trail, I

mean, you know, with the bushes on each side.

There's no entrances or exits anywhere.

So we come walking back towards the truck,

and here's this old 1970s thermos sitting in the trail.

Hair stands up on the back of your neck.

You're thinking, "is there some weird tweaker out here that did that?"

But no one inside, I mean, you could see everywhere on both sides.

I know he's got sasquatch stuff.

We see giant handprints on the door frame,

muddy, oily handprints, three times the size

of your handprints on the door frame, like

something's trying to lift up the door frame.

We're squeezing 12 feet up on the drain pipes.

We came home from church one day.

Here's this rock, the size of a softball, sitting in the center of our living room.

Izzy, she's a little toy Australian

Shepherd, upstairs under our bed, scared to death.

It could show up at two in the afternoon.

You go in the house to get a drink and come

back out, and here would be a rock sitting

on the hood of your vehicle or some kind

of little child's toy sitting in the gravel.

And there's nobody around.

I mean, it just makes the hair on your neck

stand up because you're thinking, "there's"

"somebody out here," you know, and it's kind of a little bit scary at first.

And after about 20 times, it's like, "oh, yeah.

Here's three rocks sitting on the deck in the morning."

And it was just me and my wife and our little dog.

Your mind tries to debunk everything. I did.

And then all of a sudden, you know, all these

kids' toys are showing up and all this other

stuff out in the middle of nowhere.

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This activity seemed to coalesce right here within and around this shop.

That's why you see ornamentation over here on the side.

A lot of things would happen right on the panel of the shop wall.

All of these things have age and wear on them

like they've been found and then kept somewhere

like there's a bigfoot goodwill, you know, down in the middle of the earth.

And, darell, you can attest to most of this

weirdness because you'd wake up to it just

like I would.

Every morning, it was a new day around here.

Things would change, and you never knew what was going to show up.

What was, like, some of the phenomena that you would experience?

The gifts, constantly.

Random, out of the blue things that who knows where you could even come.

I mean, we're out in the middle of nowhere here.

So how can you come up with a child's toy or just different things?

It coalesced with things you talked about.

These were objects that were significant.

I would have trouble with my cell phone.

I would say, "I think I need to get a new cell phone."

My boat was parked here and underneath the

oar, kind of hidden, was this muddy cell phone.

It's an old sidekick phone that I don't

even think they make anymore, right, where, you

know, you type here.

I would say a good 25% of the items had to

do with something you talked about, including

that glass heart.

Well, my wife had had open heart surgery a few months prior.

When we got here, you know, we put out bird

feeders, and she put up a hummingbird feeder

in the back.

A new one there.

Probably about a week later, and she still

had ongoing, you know, doctor visits for her

heart and things.

So about a week later, she comes out to check

her, maybe put some more stuff in her feeder.

And here, propped up against a tree directly below that, was a glass heart.

And you know, we'd been talking in the house

and stuff about her heart thing and how everything

was progressing.

And it was just strange.

The phenomena can be so personal.

I was telling you this story about how these rocks came to me.

I had this.

It's tiger iron.

It's a heart.

And I left it at a gifting site, and then I

retrieved it because nothing seemed to happen.

And so when I retrieved it, I brought it home.

I woke up the next morning, and of course, this was on my doorstep.

They're identical in size.

And then just recently, I lost my cats.

They passed away, and it's been a very hard thing for me.

And my neighbor, it's so strange.

You know, she didn't know about these rocks.

She got out of her car.

It was sitting by her car, and she just knew.

She's like, "oh, that's for Sonia.

Her heart's hurting.

I should give that to her."

And then when she turned it over, and of course, she saw the cat, right?

Right?

You know, she saw this cat.

She's like, "that's definitely for Sonia."

And then today, we were doing an interview,

and Brett happened to see this on the ground,

right where we were standing.

It's a black cat, and one of my cats that passed away is black.

I feel that once you engage the phenomena, it never really goes away.

As far as what I think overall is happening,

why they would gift in general, I think it's

just to move into some kind of relationship,

and this is a part of some kind of initiation.

Darrell and I both agree that the origins of

the activity seem to be coming from the tree

line behind his property, and if we're

ever going to get to the bottom of this, we're

going to have to leave the confines of his house and go into the forest.

Darrell found a spot I would come to nickname the "owl moon" or the "owl moon lab."

We call it that because the night that we cast the knee impressions, there happened

to be a full moon that was rising, known as the "owl moon."

Right after covid happened, I came down here around, I believe, the first of April.

So it was a day like this, and I just

stepped out of my Jeep, and I said, "listen, guys,

we're in a lot of trouble.

I know you're here somewhere listening, however you're doing this."

And I said, "I think we need to meet",

because we're in a world of hurt, and we need help.

Can you help us?

"Can you get us some kind of treatment or cure?"

I spelt "can we meet?" Out on these little

blocks that I have on this altar stump down

in the woods.

And a couple weeks went by, I went back to

Washington, and Darrell shows up, and the blocks

had all been rearranged on top of this stump.

Okay, I got down in here where your blocks were.

I know we wrote, "can we meet?" The other day, and now it looks like it's all...

There's like a "t" with some little things

on top, like a "toe pie" or something like that. A

it was almost phonetically my name, right, Toby?

One of the blocks got moved down to here.

Looks like there's something black on your little rock, and your blue rock is out.

Oh, I don't know what that is.

It's nasty.

So, we had it looked at by a mycologist.

It is called black witch's butter.

It is a cure for upper respiratory disease.

And if ingested, it is a way for you to meet the land spirits.

What are the chances, right?

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In the beginning, I was coming from a

mindset of a law enforcement officer, a detective,

a cop, and the fact that I knew that big fits were real because I had seen one.

I was a full believer in the fact that

these things were either an ape or some sort of

a relic hominid, and they were just really rare.

And that's why they had existed mostly undetected up to this point.

This whole body of knowledge that I'm

building, there happens to be a lot of glaring things

that I can't deny.

And being a law enforcement officer and a

detective, I have to consider all the evidence.

Even though that I'm a black and white

type thinker at this point, and I'm not really

considering anything paranormal, I'm having

to consider my own experiences at this point

and that of other people's experiences that I have talked to.

And I'm starting to put account for a lot

more of the strange evidence because I'm talking

to witnesses.

And some of these people are telling me this

stuff that's consistent among them, paranormal type stuff

like mind speak or other weird stuff.

One guy told me that he watched one, cloaked

one day, and he described it to me just like

the movie predator.

It's like he could see it, but he couldn't see it at the same time.

You could see the form of it, but it was standing there.

And I had heard that many more times too

throughout my research, you know, and I had read reports

online that claim the same thing.

And the people describe it just like the movie predator.

I'd love to invite you to walk me through this.

Really organically, I find this so interesting.

If you want to see my reaction to this on

a first time basis, you know, you have one

opportunity to see my first response.

I see something moving.

It almost looked like plant material falling down.

Okay, so what did I just see here?

Oh my goodness.

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Pretty cool.

Yeah, so something had to have hit it really

hard and really fast right in the middle to

break it there to not break these smaller

pieces that are supporting it at either end.

Yeah, that had to have been, you know, like a thrust and not a hang.

Yeah, something hard and fast.

The heck was that?

Did you see that? What the heck is it?

There's something taking off right there.

Did you see that?

Yeah.

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I was standing right here when it happened.

This wasn't here then.

This is since fallen.

We were discussing this log right there.

I looked right straight through across from

over here and I saw this black head pop up.

He was about so high.

Triangular shape, there was no neck.

He was solid black.

He turned and ran that way.

He was all arms and legs and hair.

My friend Sam was right here.

I saw the tree here blocked the view for me

for a second and then I saw him just a little

bit more there and then Sam turned and stepped and blocked my view.

At that point, we thought maybe he'd

crossed the trail and the people on the trail were

going to get the sighting, but they never saw him.

The next day we came back and you could see

where his tracks went right down into a hole

in this debris pile from when they logged back here years ago.

You know what I'm looking at is in the region

where this movement, this vertically downward

movement is taking place, I'm looking to

see whether there are any effects on the stuff

in the foreground, right?

You know how there's that hanging, that brown branch?

And so that's the first place my attention

has drawn us to see whether the stuff in the

foreground is somehow drawn into the effect and I don't see that.

You know, you get older and you move off to

the woods and you start looking, but you don't

really think anything as they're around you

because you've been raised to think that they're not real.

And then one day, one day you discover that

all of the things that you've been thinking

about all those years really do exist.

They're really out there and they're not that far away from you.

What I saw was the black head popped up

and ran with the camera picked up, looks like

something from a predator movie.

And I was pretty shocked by that.

We had to put it on a bigger screen to get a bigger look.

And at that point I realized, okay, this is something that my camera can't do.

That was really life altering for me because

up until that point I didn't believe in the

woo, not like I do now.

I had seen sasquatch vanish into thin air and I had rationalized it.

I had seen vegetation being mowed over by

something that wasn't there and I rationalized it.

And until I had the cloaker on video where I

could look at it and go, I saw this, I know

what this was and this is what the camera captured.

Now I believe, now I get it.

I now know that this happens.

But when you're actually walking on the

trail and trying to convince yourself that there

could be an invisible being standing six

feet from you, it's really difficult to get that

mindset and think in that mindset.

And I struggled with that for a long time.

And now, you know, when things happen,

your mind wants to rationalize and go with the

things that you were raised to believe are normal.

When you sit back and you analyze it and think

about what happened, the things that surround

this experience gives you lessons, you know?

It's not just that that sasquatch exists,

it's that sasquatch can do this and this and this.

Oh wait, and he can do this too.

That kind of thing.

I could just sit here and scrub this back and forth for an hour.

This thing that you've shown me here on this

tablet is kind of troubling and interesting

at the same time.

I haven't seen anything like this in the context of bigfoot.

Because this implies things to me that go

far beyond some hairy creature skulking around in the woods.

At this point, I no longer look at the

bigfoot image as being the primary, certainly not

the exclusive way that whatever this thing is can manifest.

And so, you know, it makes me think of the

bigfoot image as being almost an arbitrary avatar for something else

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Look at the phenomena that people out in the field have reported around bigfoot.

I'm not talking about the academic people,

I'm talking about the people who've been out

there in the fields with the bigfoot.

What they report experiencing and sensing is very similar to what people report who

experiment with coherent matter.

There's some of the same phenomena going on.

I think it's really reasonable just to

suggest that these could be overlapping phenomena.

All of these phenomena that we call

paranormal, some underlying symptoms here that we always

see, sudden temperature changes, strange

smells, strange effects on batteries, cameras going

out, electronic equipment acting in really strange ways.

I think if you can base some of this in

science, it allows us to have the grasp of what's going

on and it allows us to stop calling it

supernatural and paranormal, which I'm not against.

Let's say what we're calling supernatural

and paranormal is basically another type of

physics that we're not familiar with.

In our day-to-day experience, we perceive things that are either solid or liquid or

gaseous like the atmosphere.

And we're also aware of other states of matter

like plasmas, which is the next state of matter,

which is ionized gases.

And we see those in fluorescent light bulbs and in lightning.

But there's a fifth state of matter beyond plasmas.

And that's when the matter gives up its individual

identity and becomes a quantum coherent structure.

And all the particles now are at the same temperature and the same frequency.

When they do this, they can change states and do things that ordinary matter can.

For instance, the ordinary matter that we're

used to just can't become invisible like that.

The chair is not going to disappear.

But coherent matter can work in ways that ordinary matter can't because it's based

on quantum principles.

So it can easily go into what's called a cloaked mode.

And the reason we know this is true is

because people who've worked in the CIA have come

forward to talk about this.

We know the department of defense monitors

the U.S. for all sorts of abnormal, out of

the ordinary types of matter and energetic

properties that would maybe indicate that

there's been some sort of attack on the

U.S. or something that gives them an indication

that something's off.

So that's a type of matter where it's

beyond our ordinary sensory ability for you and I to see

but, you know, with the special equipment, you can pick it up.

You can detect it.

You sort of have to wonder whether there's

other types of life out there that's already,

you know, using those states of matter that's

sort of interacting with those states of matter,

maybe even based in those states of matter that's already indigenous to the earth.

And that's how you kind of get into this discussion of dark matter relic neutrinos.

The relic neutrinos are something that's

really interesting that we've only learned about recently.

Those are the original radiation from the

cosmic background from the time of the big bang.

These are particles that decoupled from the rest of the universe.

We're told one second after the big bang.

And they're still radiating down on the

earth because they're coming from the far edges

of the cosmos.

Why relic neutrinos matter to us is their

wavelength is big enough to interact all the

way up from the subatomic to cells.

We're interacting all the time with energy

that's coming from space that's invisible,

but has a slight energetic effect.

And scientists generally agree it's a small component of what we call dark matter.

The reason that dark matter is so important

is all of these models of cosmology that we have.

The so-called double dark model is dark energy and dark matter.

These models say that there has to be another

type of matter out there that we can't interact

with directly, but we interact with gravitationally.

And that there's something like 10 particles

of dark matter for every particle of regular

matter that we see.

So if you look around the room, you look

around the earth, you look around the universe,

you think you see what's going on, there's

10 times as much matter that you don't see.

That means that we're interacting with something all the time.

It's probably absolutely critical to

biological life to have this energy source from relic neutrinos.

There's actually more to it than that

because we emit the same wavelengths again from our

body, from biological interactions.

This has been referred to as qi energy.

The reason this all matters is because this

gives us a particle that can drive cold fusion reaction.

And initially when we heard about cold

fusion from fleishman and pons in '89, you know, the

theory was not developed enough.

There were people working on it.

It goes back quite a ways, but we didn't hear about it.

It's highly likely that there are life

forms out there right now that are already using

this and getting all of the benefits of

coherent matter that our own defense contractors are

filing patent applications for.

I mean, if you have companies like lockheed Martin

and others filing patent applications

for coherent matter and they're telling you, okay, it's going to allow us to cloak.

We're going to have teleportation.

We're going to be able to influence things at a distance.

We're going to use this for directed energy weapons.

And it's in this patent that the patent office

takes 10 years to approve for lockheed Martin.

It's approved in march, 2021.

If they're getting patents and coherent

matter, I guarantee you there's other life forms out

there that already know how to do this.

And they're using cloaking, they're using

teleportation and all the other sorts of really

interesting quantum effects that have an

evolutionary advantage in survival with other life forms,

other organisms, the ecosystem that you're a part of.

And the reason you would expect that, it's very simple.

Nature doesn't waste anything.

We know from every single thing we've ever

looked at that nature doesn't waste any energy.

It recycles everything that it can, you

know, in our bodies, in any biological system for

maximum efficiency, right?

On one hand, they've been telling us, oh, cold fusion, that's not real.

That's a fantasy.

It's junk science.

But here's our... we want a patent in it.

You can't have it both ways.

So I think we can see what's going on here.

There's a level of science, maybe it's

classified, maybe it's not, that has to do with creating

other states of matter.

Ball lightning is something that's been of interest for a long time to humanity.

It's been seen for hundreds and thousands of years.

And it's been seen in natural circumstances.

It's seen around thunderstorms.

Before an earthquake, you would get ball

lightning orbs and, you know, various anomalous light phenomena.

Sometimes it just shows up, it can follow you

around and you feel like something is following

you around.

It almost seems like a living object, but you can also create it in the lab.

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Up here in the pacific northwest, in the area

that we're living, there's just a lot of stuff going on.

And I was experiencing these things and

then actively researching, learning as much as I could.

I found that going out into the field was

the best thing to do, having those personal experiences.

And what I found was that, yes, there are ufos, there's unidentified things.

Yes, there are sasquatch in the forest.

And they're being seen not just by me, not

just by the group of people that I'm with,

but by many people.

And it's not just here, but it's all over.

After moving to Portland 2010, I was very engrossed with doing my own research.

I've accumulated hundreds, if not

thousands, of photos of orbs and also videos of them

as well.

I didn't know that there was a connection to orbs in sasquatch.

And I started learning from other people

who had sasquatch encounters experiences that

orbs were a part of that.

So I'm going, "okay, I'm catching these orbs inside my house."

I'm catching them out in fields.

"I'm getting them everywhere."

What are they?

I don't know what they are, but there is a

connection and they are happening and people

are seeing them.

People are filming them.

People are having experiences with them.

And from my own personal experience, this

has happened on more than one occasion that

there has to be some sort of telepathic connection

between the orbs and us because they are responding

to our thoughts.

Recently, I did a camp out.

It was at night.

I was all alone and I'm standing there and I see this massive orb of light.

And the light that comes off of these orbs, it's unnatural.

It is a light that I have never been exposed to before except for by them.

It is brilliant.

It's electric.

There's movement within the orb as it's moving, but they are also silent.

There's no noise associated with them.

And so on this particular sighting, this orb just

underneath the tree top level and just slightly

inside the trees.

My first instinct when I saw it was, "you're so beautiful."

You're so beautiful.

Thank you.

"Thank you for giving me this opportunity to connect with you."

As I was thinking this, the orb started

coming down the road and it's getting closer to me.

It's coming towards me.

I was getting a little anxiety on the fact that this was moving towards me.

When I felt that way, it stopped and then

it retreated back to its original trajectory,

its original spot, and it continued along its path.

And then I watched it descend down to the ground.

Is this a form of travel?

Is that what's happening with the sasquatch?

Are they able to create an orb outside of themselves?

Are they able to travel in an orb form?

Is it something else?

And they're just in cahoots.

They're in cahoots with what's happening in the sky.

Not sure.

I've always had the mindset that at least during and after these experiences, after

I've had all these experiences, we say that

there's magic in this world and that there's

magical aspects.

But I, at this point, no, this whole place is magical.

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The way nature does it with cold fusion reactors

is it creates its own natural magnetic confinement

system at a small scale.

And that pressure, that nucleonic pressure creates the cold fusion reaction.

And this is from the work of takaaki

matsumoto in Japan, who worked on this since the 90s.

So matsumoto realized that cold fusion was actually tiny ball lightning.

Then it was actually the same phenomena, which I mean, it's kind of astounding.

What matsumoto is able to do is say, you

know, these aren't all different phenomena.

It's not all that kind.

It's all the same thing.

It's a type of gravitational collapse caused by electromagnetic energy.

And I think you can see why this is

classified now, because it creates anti-gravity.

It's no wonder that some of these ball

lightning studies from the air force are so heavily redacted. Interesting.

I just saw another one of those tiny little flashes.

Write this down.

14, 20, take three.

( Off camera) - You know, we've tried what a lot of you guys

have done, like leaving them food or gifts,

trying to communicate in symbols, things like that.

And they've responded some of the time as well with that.

Did you all just hear that?

Yeah.

Owwww

some of the time as well with that.

(Growl)and then some of the time as well with that.

The vast majority of the universe is made of invisible matter.

You would expect there to be invisible

life forms out there, too, that are using this matter.

I mean, if it's already here and it's

interacting with only in the most subtle ways, you would

expect life forms that are based on that dark matter.

Isn't that what biology tells us is that ever

since Darwin, that things are just constantly

evolving and that they're exploiting small

advantages and there's these random genetic

mutation and that the life forms that survive

are the ones that have an evolutionary advantage

versus the other life forms.

And this is how we evolve.

We've been told this by science ever since you and I were little kids.

Orb phenomena and the balls of light are so

intrinsically connected to sasquatch and bigfoot.

I think what's going on here is you're

dealing with a fundamentally similar level of matter

where you have a type of life, a creature

that has learned to interact with different

frequencies of nature that we don't know how to do.

Maybe we forgot how to do it where the ball

lightning emerges from, that it can actually

tap into this as an energy form or either

transform into a state where it's interacting

with this coherent matter that gives it

these properties that we see, the sense of time

loss, time space changes.

And it's ultimately powered by dark matter.

I realize these are a lot of far out

concepts that could seem really strange, but if you

look at the connections between them, what

we know from 30, 40 years of science, it all

sort of makes sense.

What we could be dealing with here are literally parallel realities.

And what the energy that allows, I mean,

how would you shift into a parallel reality?

Well, ball lightning is a good place to start.

A lot of energy there.

That energy may thrust you into a parallel reality temporarily.

Whether you wanted to go there or not, you

just happen to be in that spot on the earth

where there's a lot of crystals or, you know,

elements that are conducive to charge clusters.

And boom, you go through that and you're

now encountering other realities that maybe

you wanted to encounter, maybe you didn't, but there they are.

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There's things that I won't tell you that I can't tell you.

All I can tell you right now is what goes on in these woods.

And I'll look you right now, I'll tell you,

whatever goes on in these woods, don't take

it for what you can see because there's a lot more to what you can't see.

They're here, they're real, they're not the

big monster that everybody seems to want them

to be, but there's some that have been

messed with by humans that ain't going to tolerate that.

So you're going to come across some that are grouchy.

I'll tell you that right now, but they're real, they're here, and they're next door to ya.

You have no idea how close they are.

That's what I can tell you.

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Well, we had these trees behind our house

and this is the part of it that's, I guess,

the supernatural part.

Well, then we started watching the wind

blowing those trees, and those trees were dancing

sometimes and we were afraid we were going

to wake up some night dead because the trees

fell on the house.

So we took the gamble and we cut the trees down, all three of them.

Then immediately after that, things started

happening like, no, I'd be sitting next to

my dog, ork, laying on the bed, next to

the wall, and bam, bam, bam, bam, run outside

and there'd be nothing.

After we cut the trees down, we had this deer.

This deer was bigger, lighter, and it would be right around the house.

The other deer, they would be out in the field

eating around, but this particular deer would

be by the house.

Every one of our family members noticed that deer.

We had family chats about what a weird deer that was.

How big it was, how much different color it was, and how it acted different.

I had a bedroom in the front of the house,

and I was adjusting my blinds on the window

there, and wow.

My yard went right up to the woods, and I saw a bear between two trees.

Well, I slid that window open to skew him away because he's too close to the house,

and it stood up.

Not a bear.

It was it.

It was him.

He stood up.

He was tall, hairy, and all of a sudden, this is the thing that got me.

That bigfoot, scook him, sash squash,

whatever they want to call it, shape-shifted folks

into the white deer.

Just that quick, and it walked away, and

it looked over its shoulders, and it looked

at me like, "okay."

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They shape-shifted.

I don't care what anybody says. They shape-shifted.

They did it right in front of my eyes.

After that, for two weeks, I had this thing talking to my mind.

At that time, I was trying to deny that it

was a bigfoot or whatever mind-speaking me,

but for two weeks, this went on and on,

and I'd go out to the woodshed, get wood, and

I'd tell it, "no, I'm not coming out.

I'm not dealing with this."

One day, I went out to the woodshed.

I had no phone, no camera, no gun, no nothing.

I went out to get kindling, and this

persistent mind-speak was just rattling me that day.

That day, I said, "okay, I'm coming out,

but I'm going to be the nastiest thing you've

ever eaten, and I'm going to fight.

I'm going to fight hard, but I'm going to come out."

I didn't know what to expect.

I didn't.

I was very careful.

I walked out there very quietly, very careful,

and there was a certain place in our property

that I knew where it was, and it knew where it was, what I was talking about.

It was a little corner out there.

When I got to the corner, I heard something,

and I turned and I looked, and that cream-colored

deer was standing 10 feet from me.

I could have stepped over and touched it.

He was looking at me, just looking at me.

Boy, I started telling it how I wanted to coexist.

I mean, I was telling it how I wanted to

coexist, how I thought it was cool to be here with it.

I didn't know what to expect.

I was telling all kinds of how I like to

be in coexistence, and I didn't want to hurt

it, and I didn't want to hurt my family,

and I just really don't remember exactly what I was telling it.

But that was the flavor of what I was trying to mind-speak with it.

I don't know how long this took, but it looked at me.

I looked at it, and we knew it was over, between the two of us.

It went its way, and I went my way.

I never saw that deer after that.

This is my philosophy about the thing.

We see a deer.

We can relate to that.

We see a bigfoot hanging around our house.

We're not going to like that.

We're not going to understand that.

So, this was in a deer form, looking our

house over, looking our family over, looking us

over to see if we were worthy.

That's what I think.

And when we had our little party out there in the corner, it was telling me that we

were going to be okay.

Some of these interesting effects that

people report around bigfoot, you know, they have

a lot of parallels to what you would expect

with something that would change its state

of matter, a non-ordinary type of matter.

Some of those include the eye glow that people report.

You know, you've heard interviews with

people, and so you think, "is it reflected light?"

But when you hear these descriptions from

witnesses, it's pretty clear that on completely

dark nights, they're seeing glowing eyes that blink in the bushes.

We're not usually capable of that.

We don't understand very well.

I mean, you're talking about self-luminous

objects that, you know, create light or generate energy.

This is sort of a dull glow that seems to me very consistent with the type of light

that we get from orbs.

Something that would be consistent with

coherent matter is it's literally generating its own gravitational field.

This is exactly what hal puthoff told us

about his research into ufos from the osap program

run by the department of defense.

They were able to determine that some of

these craft literally changed the permittivity and

the permeability of space time, which

changes the speed of light and all sorts of other

constants that were used to being, you know, constants in our reality.

The bigfoot, sasquatch, and other cryptids seem to be able to do this too.

It's not because they're literally a ufo.

They're using the same fundamental

principles of nature to change these things that for

us seem like constants, for them they're variables.

And once this magnetic and electrical

capacitance are variables, now you're gliding, you're

sliding, you're creating your own gravitational

field in a way that is useful to your motility.

I mean, when you listen to these descriptions

of the way these bigfoot move over areas with

stumps and rocks and people go back to the

next day and they say, we could barely walk up it.

And this thing was running like an olympic

sprinter following our car in an area of the

forest that was full of debris.

How do you get those speeds from something

that's supposed to weigh 600, 800, 1,000 pounds?

How do you move like a jet?

It can't be ordinary matter that does that.

As I'm coming up to the power lines, I slow

my truck way down, roll down the window on

the passenger side.

Just as I can see between the trees a little bit, I see this black thing.

It looked like it was almost flying.

It was running so fast.

I snapped one picture and then it was gone down in a ravine.

And it doesn't run like a man or an animal really.

It almost looks like it just skips a beat when it runs.

And then you have their ability to morph.

Now I haven't been able to decide is this because they're able to actually act like

a bush or a tree or a Boulder.

Maybe they're not the magicians we think

they are in every aspect, but they're operating

at a certain resonant frequency where you have other phenomena operating.

And this would also explain why you see them

around ufos and other unidentifiable objects

in the sky.

What could create a type of biological

material that can become invisible like that or is

visible to the eye but not to a camera or something?

We have examples of like the cuttlefish and octopus called chromophores.

So it's not a total stretch of the

imagination that there's other life forms on land that

could do something like that.

So we don't have enough evidence to know

exactly what these bigfoot are doing, but they seem

to either be able to locate, you know, by locate to another location really quickly

so that they literally vanish in front of

you or they seem to be able to shift to another

frequency.

In my view, what paranormal is is you have

dark matter plus charge clusters, compressed

charge clusters equals all sorts of really interesting stuff.

While we may be getting closer to at least

having protocols, methodologies, and standardizations

on how to find out whatever some of these

things are, I'm not so sure that we'll ever

know exactly what some of it is because some

of it just seems so strange and bizarre and

we don't really have a knowledge base to study that.

Since the renaissance, anything spiritual or

conscious or metaphysical has been separated

from science.

And so there's been no scientific training for this particular type of topic.

Even if we broaden our minds to realize that

science isn't just in the box of mechanical

cause and effect, your consciousness is

part of the universe and that's something that

we should be studying.

What is the physics, the science behind there being a consciousness?

And many people have had, if you want to call them paranormal experiences, they've

had near death things, they've had religious

experiences, all that's within the universe.

And you know what physics is?

It's the study of all of the mechanisms that make up the universe.

So to put something like that in a box and

say you can't study that because it's fringe

is just wrong and it's just bad thinking.

One of the things that this is doing for us

is beginning to chip away at the stone a little

bit that it is okay to be a scientist

studying things that for a long time people thought

were the weird ugabuga things you don't study.

And if in the process of studying these

things we learn one new piece of science, one new

piece of math, one new piece of physics,

one new piece of anything, then that's better

than we were before.

There it is, the infamous red dirt.

Yeah, like Oklahoma dirt.

The red soil.

Darrell and Cindy, who were already

accustomed to moving, decided to move yet again, this

time out of state to Oklahoma.

Our time at the owl moon wilderness was coming to an end.

I see some strange stick structure thing over there right behind you also.

Where were all those white ones we had?

Right here, see them?

Oh yeah.

Oh, it's been so long since we've been in here.

But this is the first place that we gifted back to.

This is where we would stick apples, you know,

we'd walk, come all the way up here and leave

bags of popcorn and apples up here and nothing ever happened.

I mean, we never got any results.

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That's it, man.

Last one.

Yeah.

That's a wrap as far as the owl moon lab and Darrell. I don't know about me,

but I don't feel like it'll happen in this spot.

Yeah, it's been a while, what, three years?

Yeah.

Coming up here a lot.

We've even found barefoot tracks in the gravel here before, which is quite a thing to see.

Yeah, crossing the road, yeah.

It feels done.

Doesn't it feel done to you?

Yeah, it feels like.

You're ready.

You're already.

It's like they moved on.

Yeah.

You've moved on, they've moved on.

Yeah.

It's time for me to move on.

Move on.

Move on down the road.

With our getting settled in, I'll be going down to honobia and those areas,

especially down, you know, the kayamishi mountain range, which rolls over into

Arkansas, where boggy creek is and all that.

They've had bigfoot sightings in there forever, a couple

hundred years, and doing some squatching with my brother.

He knows a lot of areas down there.

So we're going to go camping and see what we can stir up.

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I think about it every day.

I think about what happened every day.

And I try to rationalize it in my mind that it

could have been something else, but it wasn't.

And you know what, I'm really happy that Cody saw it too, because if he wouldn't

have saw this thing, what it did, I'd be still second-guessed myself today.

There's an electrical pole that carries power throughout the houses out here.

It was right next to the pole where you could look at the pole and see where the

top of that figure was before it had

started to condense and become a different object.

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It was November 2nd, 10:15 in the morning when we actually had the sighting.

It was just like any other morning, except

it was a little bit later, and he was driving.

The sun was at our back, so we have a very good

vision of it because the sun was coming right down on it.

As soon as we came around the corner, I noticed what I had thought was an elk

standing on its back legs right on the corner, right on the edge of the pavement,

looking, a side view of it, looking towards the bushes.

That's what I thought I saw at that second.

I said, "Cody, there's something in the road."

As soon as he looked up, we both spotted it, and by the time I just told Cody that

and looked back, it was already a giant—all

I can say is ape man, maybe 9 to 10 feet tall.

And how I know that, too, is as we were getting closer, I looked at that yellow

marker going up that cable, and it was far above that cable standing right here.

And that's when we were both just amazed, looking at it.

We weren't even talking to each other at that point.

We were just staring with amazement, getting closer and closer.

Now we're between this turn right here and halfway between that turn.

We're talking less than 35 yards away.

And it starts shrinking down.

What I saw was it shrinking down.

It just got smaller, smaller, until it was an orangutan

size, what looked to me like an orangutan in a fetal position.

What did it look like to you, Cody?

It looked like it had just hunched over and turned up very bright orange.

At that point, it turned into a sphere.

This all happened from right there to here.

It turned into a sphere of orange, the

brightest orange you've ever seen, round, globe-like,

levitated off the ground.

At that point, after it levitated, it turned into a geometric square, a perfect

geometric square, still burning like the sun.

It looked like the sun.

And when this thing hunched over, it was so

tall that its waist had to have at least been here.

This is where you would call the midsection, at

least, of the beast, and the rest of it was up there.

The top of it came down to the waist section like

this, and as soon as this part came down to here,

whatever was touching the ground came up off the ground,

just high enough to clear those bushes in a

straight line that you could just go, "whoosh."

And that's where that flash of light came from that it just left.

Our eyes couldn't keep up with how fast it was going, so it looked like a streak.

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I decided to go to coquille point to do a painting

there, and I was painting, and Cody and Harold came up,

and he asked how much for the painting, because I

was almost done with it, and he said, "I'll buy it."

So he called me about two weeks later to pick up the painting, and he told me, "if

I describe something to you, you think you'd be able to paint it."

And then he proceeded to tell me about the sighting, and it was pretty wild, and I

told him, "you got the right guy because I'm a

bigfoot enthusiast, but I've never seen one."

I already had the thought in my mind of having this painted, so I'd have something

to show people, because a painting's worth a thousand words.

So I started talking to him about it, and boy, we hit it off great.

You know, I wasn't surprised for some reason, because I've heard some wild stories,

and I've never had an encounter like that, you know?

But I had been listening to sasquatch chronicles, and a lot of the stories involved

some supernatural things with sasquatch sightings.

I was thinking, "wow, that's amazing, you know? Like, you might have a piece of the

puzzle here that explains a lot of the elusiveness and why they can't find a body.

You know, these guys might not be, you know, physical."

He came out to the site where we actually saw what we saw. He took pictures,

interviewed both of us, wrote down everything we

said, and then started working on this painting.

And we haven't seen the painting at this point finished yet.

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There's a lot of stuff that we don't know. We don't know everything.

There's a lot of mysteries in this world, and you should

keep your mind open to all the possibilities out there.

It's a mysterious world, and it's amazing.

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The first thing I did was I got down on my hands and knees and looked for hair,

because this thing changed three different colors, and

you would think it would have to drop a hair doing that.

It would lose something doing that. And I got down and

looked on my hands and knees and couldn't find one hair.

And that's when we both looked at each other and said, "you know what? I think we

better get out of here. We'll come back later."

And we did go back later, and we looked for tracks. There was nothing.

I have my hopes that one day that it might reappear back in this spot, but the odds

of that happening, as with every other encounter, once you've seen it somewhere,

you're never going to see it in that same spot.

So what is quite amazing, actually, that we were able to time everything just

right, that we had the best view of this bigfoot-type

creature doing all of its transformation right in front of us.

It was able to do things that you couldn't even imagine.

I've kept it to my mental image of what it was that I saw. I'm trying to just keep

it locked in there, because I know that if I just keep it in my head and use that

as my frame of reference, I'll never forget what

it was that it actually appeared before us that day.

Once you see something, no matter how hardcore you are on not believing something,

I'd rather believe my eyes than what I was taught in a book.

For about a week after that, at night, I didn't even sleep too good, to tell you

the truth, because I was thinking about it all the time.

Even at work, I was thinking about it. You know, in my mind, did I see that?

Because you keep seeing it over and over.

When you see something that you've never

seen before, you keep seeing it over and over.

What are the chances of us seeing something like that? That's what I always think about

a billion to one? Two billion to one? Why us?

It could have very easily just jumped off the road, but instead it stayed there and

let us, as we're getting closer and closer, it let us see it do all these changes.

I will never forget it. It's plastered in my mind. If you would have had that

experience, you would never forget it either.

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People say, "well, you're not offering me any proof with what you're telling me."

And I've told people across the united states, into Canada, any time I've ever been

speaking or been at a gathering or

whatever, you don't have to believe anything I say.

You really don't. I'm not trying to prove

anything to you. But I would ask you to file it away.

Just put it back somewhere, and then if you have an encounter, or you have somebody

that you know and trust has an encounter, then you can

go back to that and say, "wait a minute. I heard this."

So don't throw it away. Just file it away.

There's things in this world, lord, I wish I could explain. Like those senseless

killings, and our obsession with death and pain.

But I've seen another world, and it's waiting for you and me.

With light so bright, it'll burn your eyes if you try to see.

Life is strange, and it has a way of showing you what you don't know.

Like how can an extinct day make footprints and him a lay in snow?

Did he not really see a spinning wheel on fire in the sky?

Or was it an ancient astronaut just going out for his midnight ride?

Well, the greys are among us, and the truth is out there, you know.

Did our technology come from a weather balloon that crashed out in new Mexico?

Well, it's a shame the unexplained is to blame when you're scared of them.

Our dreams and mind travel through space and time at the speed of light.

This life gives us hope, but it leaves us with a lot of question marks.

Was prometheus' glide to steal the light just to leave us all in the dark?

Well, I've seen the shape shifter and the coyote tricksters posing in a polaroid

picture, which proved to me there was more to life than what we see.

Was Newton dropping LSD underneath the apatry

when he discovered a headache in the laws of gravity?

I felt the presence of god in the bottom of my bottle of wine.

He said secrets would be revealed when we catch up in our place and time.

Still then, it's chemtrails and fairy tales.

It's not paranormal, it's normal. It's our view of

the world that's subnormal, that's making it seem weird.

We're the ones that have to rise up to, you

know, understand it. This is reality, it's normal.

You know, what's subnormal is our educational system and all these organizations

that are dumbing us down. That's subnormal.