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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:23,732 --> 00:00:26,906 I regret to announce that Kenny Dalglish 2 00:00:26,944 --> 00:00:30,730 told the board yesterday of his wish to retire as team manager. 3 00:00:32,574 --> 00:00:34,827 Ever since then, the board have made strenuous attempts 4 00:00:34,868 --> 00:00:36,620 to make him change his mind. 5 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,338 Well, obviously, I've been involved 6 00:00:43,293 --> 00:00:46,843 in football since I've been 17 and for 20 years really 7 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:51,431 I've been with the two most successful clubs in Britain 8 00:00:51,468 --> 00:00:52,811 and I've been... 9 00:00:52,844 --> 00:00:54,517 I've been in the front line... 10 00:00:56,598 --> 00:00:59,210 in... in... for 20 years. 11 00:00:59,518 --> 00:01:04,274 And it's just really a result of 20 years' active involvement in football 12 00:01:04,314 --> 00:01:06,157 at a very high and successful level 13 00:01:07,609 --> 00:01:09,987 that really I'm... 14 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,749 kind of reached a person that's pushed himself to the limit. 15 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,372 Urn... 16 00:01:18,203 --> 00:01:20,752 It's something that's taken rne a long time to come to. 17 00:01:21,540 --> 00:01:23,580 When did you start thinking about it, Ken? 18 00:01:23,834 --> 00:01:26,234 Do you want me to keep talking or are you going to interrupt? 19 00:01:27,546 --> 00:01:30,891 But the most important thing... 20 00:01:32,134 --> 00:01:35,559 and the worst decision I could have come to is not to have made a decision. 21 00:02:34,154 --> 00:02:35,326 Dalglish! 22 00:02:36,615 --> 00:02:38,162 Dalglish! 23 00:02:43,288 --> 00:02:44,631 "You'll Never Walk Alone" 24 00:02:44,665 --> 00:02:50,470 When you walk through a storm 25 00:02:50,870 --> 00:02:55,389 ♪ Hold your head up high 26 00:02:55,425 --> 00:03:01,523 ♪ And don't be afraid of the dark 27 00:03:08,146 --> 00:03:12,526 I got a phone call completely out the blue 28 00:03:12,567 --> 00:03:13,819 from Peter Robinson 29 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:16,739 saying him and the chairman would like to come and have a word. 30 00:03:17,364 --> 00:03:18,832 I said, 'Yeah, no problem.' 31 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:21,452 So I came. 32 00:03:21,493 --> 00:03:24,246 They asked if I'd like to become manager. 33 00:03:25,497 --> 00:03:27,170 I asked them 'Why?' 34 00:03:28,583 --> 00:03:30,460 But they never told me why, really. 35 00:03:39,553 --> 00:03:42,727 But that was it. That was my exit out of the dressing room 36 00:03:43,598 --> 00:03:48,229 to being in isolation at the bottom of the corridor in the manager's office. 37 00:04:14,755 --> 00:04:17,304 I'm afraid the news is very bad from Brussels. 38 00:04:17,340 --> 00:04:19,468 Hooliganism has struck again 39 00:04:19,509 --> 00:04:22,580 and I'm afraid the scenes are as bad as anything 40 00:04:22,950 --> 00:04:24,630 we've seen for a long, long time. 41 00:04:29,770 --> 00:04:31,363 Ah... 42 00:04:34,900 --> 00:04:37,904 Generally speaking, whether we get beat in the football match 43 00:04:37,944 --> 00:04:41,539 I'll have a quip or I'll laugh a bit but I'm not laughing tonight. 44 00:04:44,750 --> 00:04:46,419 Thousands of Liverpool soccer fans are in Brussels 45 00:04:46,453 --> 00:04:49,810 for tonight's European Cup Final against Juventus. 46 00:04:49,122 --> 00:04:52,126 It will be the last for Liverpool's manager, Joe Fagan 47 00:04:52,167 --> 00:04:55,546 who has announced that he is retiring whether his team win or lose. 48 00:04:55,587 --> 00:04:57,715 I think it'll lift the team tonight more than anything. 49 00:04:57,756 --> 00:05:00,476 They'll want to go out there tonight and really win it for Joe Fagan. 50 00:05:02,427 --> 00:05:04,429 I was delighted by playing. 51 00:05:04,471 --> 00:05:07,441 I was a footballer, I wanted to be a footballer. 52 00:05:09,590 --> 00:05:10,777 Everybody knew Joe was retiring. 53 00:05:10,811 --> 00:05:12,529 He was only doing it for two years. 54 00:05:14,356 --> 00:05:17,360 Between them asking me to do it 55 00:05:18,260 --> 00:05:19,903 and becoming the manager 56 00:05:19,945 --> 00:05:22,573 I had exactly the same thought all the way through. 57 00:05:23,907 --> 00:05:25,375 To win the game. 58 00:05:28,203 --> 00:05:29,705 How you doing, mate? You OK? 59 00:05:29,746 --> 00:05:31,714 Dig. Jocky. - How you doing? You alright? 60 00:05:31,748 --> 00:05:32,965 Good to see you. 61 00:05:32,999 --> 00:05:34,922 It seems that the manager's resignation has increased 62 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,588 the fans' determination to beat Juventus. 63 00:05:37,629 --> 00:05:40,678 It could have a more unsettling effect on the players. 64 00:05:40,715 --> 00:05:43,343 But there's nothing that the entire Liverpool contingent 65 00:05:43,385 --> 00:05:46,764 would like more than to reward Joe Fagan's decades of service 66 00:05:46,847 --> 00:05:48,520 with the European Cup. 67 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,230 Everyone was saying when we picked up our tickets, you know. 68 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:54,737 'We haven't got the whole end. 69 00:05:54,771 --> 00:05:59,743 There's gonna be so-called neutral fans from Brussels in one section.' 70 00:05:59,776 --> 00:06:02,740 Brussels had a massive Italian community. 71 00:06:02,112 --> 00:06:05,366 We knew those tickets would go on the black market. 72 00:06:05,407 --> 00:06:07,375 We could foresee problems. 73 00:06:08,243 --> 00:06:13,295 It was supposed to be, right, neutrals in that little bit here 74 00:06:13,331 --> 00:06:17,860 and then there was a chicken-wire fence and then the Liverpool fans. 75 00:06:18,587 --> 00:06:23,809 At 10 to six we go and have a look at the pitch. We picked up... 76 00:06:23,842 --> 00:06:25,844 it was like a half brick. 77 00:06:25,886 --> 00:06:29,186 Who brings a half brick with them into the stadium? 78 00:06:29,222 --> 00:06:32,660 In actual fact, it was the stadium that was crumbling. 79 00:06:33,894 --> 00:06:38,149 And so you sort of went, 'Hmmm, this ain't great.' 80 00:06:43,862 --> 00:06:48,333 A group of Liverpool fans decided that they were gonna charge 81 00:06:48,366 --> 00:06:52,542 across the terrace into the corner. 82 00:06:53,872 --> 00:06:58,594 It caused a wave of crush and a wall collapsed. 83 00:07:00,754 --> 00:07:02,506 Good evening, this is Clive Tyldesley 84 00:07:02,547 --> 00:07:04,515 in the Heysel Stadium in Brussels 85 00:07:04,549 --> 00:07:07,177 where Europe's premier football match of the season 86 00:07:07,218 --> 00:07:10,973 has now been completely overshadowed by scenes of violence 87 00:07:11,140 --> 00:07:13,938 the likes of which I've never seen in a football ground before. 88 00:07:23,276 --> 00:07:25,779 We were right beside where it was all happening. 89 00:07:25,820 --> 00:07:29,575 We saw the wall come down and one of the girls 90 00:07:29,616 --> 00:07:31,380 went outside and above. 91 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,440 It was horrendous. 92 00:07:34,204 --> 00:07:39,176 Well, for the last 50 minutes the Heysel Stadium 93 00:07:39,209 --> 00:07:43,259 in Brussels, the capital of Belgium 94 00:07:43,296 --> 00:07:46,391 has been a sickening and bewildering sight. 95 00:07:48,259 --> 00:07:51,580 There was rumours in the dressing room 96 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,394 and then the rumours were changing every five minutes. 97 00:07:54,933 --> 00:07:57,527 How long were you in there before you went back out? 98 00:07:58,228 --> 00:08:00,151 Must have been over an hour. 99 00:08:04,567 --> 00:08:06,569 Really the game was an insignificance. - Yeah. 100 00:08:07,278 --> 00:08:08,404 But they just said... 101 00:08:08,446 --> 00:08:10,540 I suppose that was... they thought that was the best way 102 00:08:10,573 --> 00:08:13,793 to see it through was to have the game. 103 00:08:15,412 --> 00:08:18,541 What that must have been like for young men 104 00:08:19,541 --> 00:08:23,637 to actually have a consciousness and an understanding 105 00:08:23,670 --> 00:08:26,139 of what the hell was going on around them 106 00:08:26,172 --> 00:08:29,301 and to react in such a way that they could just play 107 00:08:29,302 --> 00:08:31,519 a normal game of football like ever before. 108 00:08:33,847 --> 00:08:36,817 And the Liverpool team appear. 109 00:08:37,892 --> 00:08:39,690 And all credit to them. 110 00:08:42,981 --> 00:08:45,609 I walked out to the field and I looked left. 111 00:08:45,650 --> 00:08:48,369 You could see the carnage, and there were still ambulances there. 112 00:08:49,863 --> 00:08:52,412 We... we played. 113 00:08:53,450 --> 00:08:56,124 That was the decision that was taken. 114 00:08:56,161 --> 00:09:00,837 And we know that they were playing in a daze. 115 00:09:03,918 --> 00:09:08,389 Subconsciously you know that there's something happened, isn't there? 116 00:09:09,132 --> 00:09:11,550 You're not oblivious to what's going on round about 117 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:12,514 although you don't know the facts. 118 00:09:17,932 --> 00:09:20,185 Between two. 119 00:09:20,226 --> 00:09:21,944 Yes, a penalty's gonna be given. 120 00:09:23,396 --> 00:09:25,148 They get a penalty awarded... 121 00:09:28,610 --> 00:09:30,578 which Platini put away. 122 00:09:30,612 --> 00:09:32,330 Out by Scirea. 123 00:09:33,948 --> 00:09:37,770 And Liverpool's run of success 124 00:09:37,118 --> 00:09:40,213 in European Cup Finals comes to an end. 125 00:09:41,664 --> 00:09:45,259 But this is not a night when football will be remembered. 126 00:09:45,293 --> 00:09:48,547 The official figures of the tragedy 127 00:09:48,588 --> 00:09:51,341 which occurred before a ball was kicked. 128 00:09:51,382 --> 00:09:55,353 36 people killed, more than 200 injured 129 00:09:55,386 --> 00:09:57,354 and 15 of them seriously. 130 00:09:59,307 --> 00:10:02,151 How would any of us respond to a situation like that? 131 00:10:04,395 --> 00:10:06,944 It's a football match. It's a joyous occasion. 132 00:10:06,981 --> 00:10:08,608 It's the biggest game of the season. 133 00:10:08,650 --> 00:10:10,869 And people are dying around me. 134 00:10:13,571 --> 00:10:17,621 We were up until late and just talking about how could it happen. 135 00:10:20,453 --> 00:10:23,423 The next day I went to the shops and actually, I was embarrassed. 136 00:10:23,456 --> 00:10:26,460 I felt really ashamed. It was a horrible time. 137 00:10:27,961 --> 00:10:30,305 The majority of fans didn't behave reprehensibly. 138 00:10:30,338 --> 00:10:32,761 The majority of fans condemned those who did. 139 00:10:34,968 --> 00:10:38,848 And Liverpool fans didn't have a history of that kind of violence 140 00:10:38,888 --> 00:10:41,391 and it besmirched the club's name. 141 00:10:41,432 --> 00:10:45,403 It reduced the club incredibly in the public eye. 142 00:10:45,436 --> 00:10:47,279 It had massive consequences. 143 00:10:47,313 --> 00:10:51,864 And quite rightly, Liverpool was banned from European tournaments. 144 00:10:54,696 --> 00:10:55,993 We came back to Liverpool. 145 00:10:56,300 --> 00:10:58,328 Joe Fagan was crying and everybody was crying. 146 00:10:58,366 --> 00:11:01,870 I mean, it was, like, horrible. It was a horrible, horrible time. 147 00:11:04,289 --> 00:11:06,291 Do you think the game should have been played? 148 00:11:06,332 --> 00:11:08,835 It wasn't for rne to make the opinion, was it? 149 00:11:08,877 --> 00:11:11,221 We were asked to play and we played. 150 00:11:11,254 --> 00:11:13,348 A lot of people, though, thought it was a bad decision. 151 00:11:13,381 --> 00:11:15,850 Well, we didn't realise what had happened before the game. 152 00:11:15,884 --> 00:11:17,511 You had no idea that people had been killed? 153 00:11:17,552 --> 00:11:18,724 No. 154 00:11:19,304 --> 00:11:21,306 It's a shame really that something like that 155 00:11:21,347 --> 00:11:23,315 the biggest club game in the world 156 00:11:23,349 --> 00:11:26,193 and it's ended in disaster for so many people. 157 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,522 If it was difficult for me to deal with 158 00:11:29,564 --> 00:11:32,693 it would have been much more difficult for the people who suffered a loss. 159 00:11:34,736 --> 00:11:36,736 You've just got to deal with the hand you're dealt. 160 00:11:53,379 --> 00:11:55,347 Your parents are the ultimate. 161 00:11:55,348 --> 00:11:56,842 They shape your life. 162 00:11:56,883 --> 00:11:59,853 They mould you into what you become later on in your life. 163 00:12:01,804 --> 00:12:03,522 I really enjoyed growing up. 164 00:12:03,556 --> 00:12:05,399 Everyone was in the same boat. 165 00:12:05,433 --> 00:12:06,980 Everybody got out and played. 166 00:12:07,180 --> 00:12:08,395 A lot of young families there. 167 00:12:09,437 --> 00:12:10,905 And a lot of friends. 168 00:12:12,106 --> 00:12:16,327 I think it was always better to do somebody a good turn 169 00:12:16,361 --> 00:12:17,829 than a bad turn. 170 00:12:18,988 --> 00:12:20,535 My sister Carol and I were brought up 171 00:12:20,573 --> 00:12:23,668 with very good family values. 172 00:12:24,327 --> 00:12:28,298 I'm supposed to run out and throw my arms around wide... 173 00:12:30,291 --> 00:12:32,462 How are we? - Hiya. How are you? 174 00:12:32,463 --> 00:12:34,133 Good. Nay problems. - Yeah. 175 00:12:35,213 --> 00:12:38,638 The old house there. I cannae believe just how long it's been. 176 00:12:39,500 --> 00:12:40,677 It's just so familiar. - It is. 177 00:12:40,718 --> 00:12:42,470 There's an awful lot of memories round about here. 178 00:12:42,512 --> 00:12:44,765 Oh, I know. - They all come back when you come back. 179 00:12:46,570 --> 00:12:49,186 - I thought I was alright. - No, no, no, you weren't. 180 00:12:49,227 --> 00:12:51,104 Not when you were young, really young. 181 00:12:51,145 --> 00:12:53,145 I thought I was OK. - Up until you were about five. 182 00:12:53,564 --> 00:12:56,670 My mum stayed at home and ran the house. 183 00:12:57,151 --> 00:12:58,619 My dad went to work. 184 00:12:58,653 --> 00:13:00,747 He was a diesel engine fitter. 185 00:13:00,780 --> 00:13:04,375 I think my dad first introduced me to a ball before I could walk. 186 00:13:04,409 --> 00:13:08,334 He used to hold me and let me have a kick at a ball. 187 00:13:09,289 --> 00:13:11,758 He liked you to sit up straight at the table 188 00:13:11,791 --> 00:13:13,919 and not leave the table till you'd finished your meal. 189 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:18,636 A lot of the time it was only speak if you're spoken to type of thing 190 00:13:18,673 --> 00:13:20,675 if you were in adult company. - A 'yes' and a 'thank you.' 191 00:13:20,717 --> 00:13:23,610 Yeah, yeah, so... - 'Please.' 192 00:13:23,940 --> 00:13:25,563 It's great though. It's really good to be back. 193 00:13:26,389 --> 00:13:28,892 From a very young age I wanted to be a footballer. 194 00:13:28,933 --> 00:13:30,651 I just loved the football. 195 00:13:30,685 --> 00:13:34,640 One of the boys' dads made goals for us. 196 00:13:34,105 --> 00:13:36,358 He had somewhere to get nets from. 197 00:13:36,399 --> 00:13:38,859 We had a great time, really. 198 00:13:38,860 --> 00:13:42,800 Most of your spare time was spent playing football. 199 00:13:42,113 --> 00:13:44,707 There's so much change isn't there? It's so different. 200 00:13:44,741 --> 00:13:46,459 Everything's... Mind you, it is 50 years ago, though. 201 00:13:46,492 --> 00:13:48,460 It is 50 years, I was thinking that coming over. 202 00:13:48,494 --> 00:13:50,462 Dad was the orange man, wasn't he? 203 00:13:50,496 --> 00:13:52,624 He was the man who brought you the half-time oranges. 204 00:13:52,665 --> 00:13:53,917 Mum did the strips. 205 00:13:53,958 --> 00:13:55,710 Everybody chipped in. 206 00:13:56,711 --> 00:13:58,179 Up at Springburn, before the bus went away 207 00:13:58,212 --> 00:13:59,304 we got our picture taken in front of the bus. 208 00:13:59,339 --> 00:14:02,889 Was it? I'll need to bend down, as I was four then! 209 00:14:06,950 --> 00:14:09,520 You were brought up to support either Rangers or Celtic 210 00:14:09,557 --> 00:14:11,980 and if you sat on the fence you were a Partick Thistle fan. 211 00:14:12,180 --> 00:14:14,612 So my dad was a Rangers fan. 212 00:14:15,772 --> 00:14:17,194 It comes back to you. - It does. 213 00:14:17,231 --> 00:14:18,858 When you come here you get one or two things coming back. 214 00:14:18,900 --> 00:14:20,243 Yeah. 215 00:14:24,447 --> 00:14:28,702 Well, it's a very great sorrow for me to have to tell you that at this stage 216 00:14:28,743 --> 00:14:32,748 there are 66 persons that have lost their lives as a result of the accident 217 00:14:32,789 --> 00:14:35,292 which took place on the terracing exit. 218 00:14:36,501 --> 00:14:38,174 I was at the game. 219 00:14:38,211 --> 00:14:41,385 We used to always go to the same crash barrier. 220 00:14:41,422 --> 00:14:44,551 My dad's mates with his work, they all used to meet up 221 00:14:44,592 --> 00:14:47,610 and we all used to stand there and watch the match. 222 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,645 It looked like ending in a draw until one minute before the end 223 00:14:51,682 --> 00:14:54,902 Rangers equalized and the crowd roared in excitement. 224 00:14:54,936 --> 00:14:56,813 Some of those who were halfway down the steps 225 00:14:56,854 --> 00:15:00,280 tried to get back into the ground with tragic results. 226 00:15:01,670 --> 00:15:02,865 From the stunned city of Glasgow 227 00:15:02,902 --> 00:15:05,997 pictures of the aftermath of Britain's worst ever soccer disaster. 228 00:15:08,533 --> 00:15:11,200 There but for the grace of God go I. 229 00:15:17,542 --> 00:15:19,100 We had to move out of here. 230 00:15:19,430 --> 00:15:20,419 My mum and dad thought we should move out 231 00:15:20,420 --> 00:15:21,888 and get our own independence 232 00:15:21,921 --> 00:15:23,594 and at least have a room to ourselves 233 00:15:23,631 --> 00:15:27,181 so they put in for a move and they moved to Ibrox. 234 00:15:28,886 --> 00:15:31,355 My mum drew a house overlooking the training ground 235 00:15:31,389 --> 00:15:35,640 that Rangers used so I could look out the window 236 00:15:35,101 --> 00:15:36,193 and watch Rangers training. 237 00:15:36,811 --> 00:15:40,691 Sean Fallon went to his house and he was the type of person 238 00:15:40,731 --> 00:15:43,484 when he spoke to you, you believed him and you trusted him. 239 00:15:44,193 --> 00:15:46,662 Sean was the assistant manager at Celtic 240 00:15:46,696 --> 00:15:49,870 and asked if I'd like to come and join them for training. 241 00:15:50,491 --> 00:15:53,665 He was on his way down to the Ayrshire coast to celebrate 242 00:15:53,703 --> 00:15:56,923 his anniversary with his wife and a couple of kids in the car. 243 00:15:56,956 --> 00:15:59,505 And they left them in the car for about an hour. 244 00:16:00,918 --> 00:16:04,343 Kenny had a photo of John Greig, the Rangers captain. 245 00:16:04,380 --> 00:16:06,303 Which my mum wanted to take down 246 00:16:06,340 --> 00:16:08,130 and my dad told her to leave it alone. 247 00:16:08,843 --> 00:16:11,960 So he was a Rangers fan 248 00:16:11,137 --> 00:16:15,859 but what Celtic were offering him was opportunity. 249 00:16:17,435 --> 00:16:20,530 At that time, Celtic would have been the best place 250 00:16:20,563 --> 00:16:24,659 for any of the kids to go and try and educate themselves to be a footballer. 251 00:16:24,692 --> 00:16:26,820 And I was fortunate to be given the opportunity. 252 00:16:27,820 --> 00:16:31,370 There was no way we were ever going to turn down Celtic. 253 00:16:31,407 --> 00:16:32,954 It was a no-brainer, really. 254 00:16:35,286 --> 00:16:38,256 To make your debut at Celtic Park was massive. 255 00:16:38,289 --> 00:16:40,838 Big Jock came into the boot room and he said 256 00:16:40,875 --> 00:16:43,298 'You're not playing for the reserves tomorrow. 257 00:16:43,336 --> 00:16:45,338 You'll be playing for the first team.' 258 00:16:45,379 --> 00:16:47,347 And I went, 'Oh, that's alright.' 259 00:16:47,381 --> 00:16:49,554 I turned up the next day and Bobby Murdoch 260 00:16:49,592 --> 00:16:52,311 sat next to me and he says, 'Are you nervous?' 261 00:16:52,345 --> 00:16:55,189 I says, 'Just a wee bit but not really. ' 262 00:16:55,223 --> 00:16:58,443 He went, 'Well, you're putting your right boot on your left foot.' 263 00:16:59,101 --> 00:17:01,103 I said, 'Maybe I am nervous!' 264 00:17:04,273 --> 00:17:06,367 This has not changed one single bit. 265 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,529 Every single thing is just the exact same. Same houses. 266 00:17:11,489 --> 00:17:13,332 And then we're at the Beechwood! 267 00:17:13,366 --> 00:17:15,840 Oh, yeah. The Beechwood. Yes. 268 00:17:16,452 --> 00:17:18,546 I was learning the pub trade. 269 00:17:18,579 --> 00:17:20,752 I learned in a restaurant called the Beechwood. 270 00:17:21,916 --> 00:17:24,890 All of the Celtic players used to go in there. 271 00:17:26,546 --> 00:17:30,176 Gosh, it's completely different, isn't it? 272 00:17:30,216 --> 00:17:34,437 My dad had a pub and I was working during the school holidays. 273 00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:37,599 Alex, I think he wanted to open a pub of his own 274 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,314 and he came in and he got some tips on the bar trade. 275 00:17:40,351 --> 00:17:41,944 How are you doing? I'm Kenny. 276 00:17:42,610 --> 00:17:43,654 Hi, hello. How are you? 277 00:17:43,688 --> 00:17:47,864 I used to work here when I was still at school as a Saturday job. 278 00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:50,528 Sometimes Friday night after school if there was a wedding 279 00:17:50,570 --> 00:17:53,665 and then I'd work Saturday night just for pocket money. 280 00:17:54,490 --> 00:17:56,538 How did you get on with my dad? 281 00:17:56,576 --> 00:17:58,294 I knew your dad before I knew you. 282 00:17:58,327 --> 00:18:00,750 Did you? I knew Fergie before I knew you! 283 00:18:00,788 --> 00:18:02,756 Fair enough, right? So what? 284 00:18:02,790 --> 00:18:04,588 Your dad didn't recommend you. 285 00:18:05,543 --> 00:18:07,110 No? - No. 286 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,920 You were recommended by Jock Stein. 287 00:18:09,130 --> 00:18:10,757 You were alright. - Was I? 288 00:18:10,798 --> 00:18:13,642 I think this has been extended, there was a bar there. 289 00:18:13,676 --> 00:18:15,303 This was where everybody sat. 290 00:18:19,265 --> 00:18:21,313 He was just one of the young boys that came in. 291 00:18:21,350 --> 00:18:23,478 I never really noticed him at first. 292 00:18:27,523 --> 00:18:29,700 The thing that made him stand out 293 00:18:29,108 --> 00:18:30,701 was that he used to blush all the time. 294 00:18:32,653 --> 00:18:35,310 He waited until my parents went on holiday 295 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,672 before he would ask rne out because he was a bit scared of my dad. 296 00:18:39,368 --> 00:18:41,370 She said, 'You give me a phone.' 297 00:18:41,412 --> 00:18:43,585 I said, 'I've not got your number.' 298 00:18:45,124 --> 00:18:48,128 And I said, 'Well, my number's in the phone book.' 299 00:18:48,169 --> 00:18:49,921 Playing hard to get. 300 00:18:50,796 --> 00:18:53,265 And he rang rne and that was it. 301 00:18:57,970 --> 00:18:59,222 Do you know what you wore? - Yeah. 302 00:18:59,263 --> 00:19:02,688 What? - A wee white short raincoat. 303 00:19:02,725 --> 00:19:04,898 I was going to her house to pick her up. 304 00:19:04,935 --> 00:19:06,528 What did I wear when you picked me up? 305 00:19:06,562 --> 00:19:08,314 Can you remember? - A blouse. 306 00:19:08,356 --> 00:19:09,824 A dress. - Did I? 307 00:19:09,857 --> 00:19:11,404 I dunno, I can't remember. Did I? 308 00:19:13,194 --> 00:19:15,447 When I was in that flat over there 309 00:19:15,488 --> 00:19:17,661 watching Kenny come down the street... 310 00:19:17,823 --> 00:19:19,245 What? 311 00:19:19,283 --> 00:19:21,661 I was on the phone to my friend 312 00:19:21,702 --> 00:19:23,704 and I said 'I wonder what car he's got.' 313 00:19:23,746 --> 00:19:26,920 I don't know what she was expecting me to pick her up in 314 00:19:26,957 --> 00:19:28,834 because I came off the bus. 315 00:19:28,876 --> 00:19:31,504 We went to the cinema. 316 00:19:31,545 --> 00:19:35,516 And then we very romantically had fish and chips in the close 317 00:19:35,549 --> 00:19:37,170 in the tenement. 318 00:19:37,510 --> 00:19:38,519 When we came out it was raining. 319 00:19:40,763 --> 00:19:42,310 He tried to impress. 320 00:19:43,990 --> 00:19:47,900 So I suppose that was our first outing as a couple. 321 00:19:49,814 --> 00:19:52,613 There we go. Ah, real nice date. 322 00:19:52,650 --> 00:19:54,823 I'm gonna ring the girls. - Why? 323 00:19:59,490 --> 00:20:02,164 Celtic. An unbelievable place. 324 00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:04,329 Won five trophies in '67 325 00:20:04,370 --> 00:20:05,450 including the European Cup. 326 00:20:06,372 --> 00:20:08,374 You don't get a rehearsal. 327 00:20:08,416 --> 00:20:10,714 You've got to earn the right to belong somewhere. 328 00:20:31,689 --> 00:20:34,442 Dalglish! Oh, a peach of a goal! 329 00:20:35,651 --> 00:20:36,948 I was thinking about moving. 330 00:20:36,986 --> 00:20:38,533 I was captain. 331 00:20:38,571 --> 00:20:40,414 They were asking me to sign a contract 332 00:20:40,448 --> 00:20:42,450 and I says, 'No, I don't want to sign a contract. 333 00:20:42,491 --> 00:20:44,539 I would like to go at the end of the season if I could.' 334 00:20:44,577 --> 00:20:46,250 Edwards and Dalglish clashing there. 335 00:20:46,287 --> 00:20:48,850 He's always been single-minded. 336 00:20:48,122 --> 00:20:50,500 If he puts his mind to something, he'll do it. 337 00:20:51,250 --> 00:20:53,298 If you've asked for a move, you know you've got to go. 338 00:20:53,335 --> 00:20:54,712 So your mind's set up to go. 339 00:21:03,304 --> 00:21:07,559 Big Jock shook my hand, gave us a cuddle and says 340 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,898 'All the best, you little bastard!' 341 00:21:11,645 --> 00:21:15,491 Liverpool signed Kenny Dalglish for £440,000. 342 00:21:15,524 --> 00:21:20,280 He's a brilliant player. But is he as good as Keegan? 343 00:21:23,199 --> 00:21:26,203 We knew he was leaving going to Hamburg and we couldn't believe it. 344 00:21:26,243 --> 00:21:29,122 We'd just won the European Cup. Why would he want to leave? 345 00:21:29,163 --> 00:21:32,963 The public of course are already talking about you replacing Kevin Keegan. 346 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,843 Is that how you see it? 347 00:21:34,877 --> 00:21:37,130 Kevin Keegan's been here, he's done a great job for Liverpool 348 00:21:37,171 --> 00:21:39,131 and Liverpool have been very good to Kevin Keegan. 349 00:21:40,216 --> 00:21:43,345 Kevin Keegan was a great player for Liverpool 350 00:21:43,385 --> 00:21:47,231 but I think Kenny Dalglish by far was the better player. 351 00:21:47,264 --> 00:21:50,108 This club will be here long after Kevin Keegan and myself have gone. 352 00:21:52,190 --> 00:21:55,489 Liverpool, after having won the European Cup 353 00:21:55,523 --> 00:21:58,322 they must be the number one club in Europe. 354 00:21:58,692 --> 00:22:01,491 Liverpool's reputation was spreading round Europe. 355 00:22:01,529 --> 00:22:04,320 There was a feeling of invincibility. 356 00:22:04,657 --> 00:22:07,911 I wasn't going to be Kevin. I was going to be myself. 357 00:22:07,952 --> 00:22:09,920 And if that was going to be good enough 358 00:22:09,954 --> 00:22:12,173 then it would be a happy story for everybody. 359 00:22:12,623 --> 00:22:14,910 Dalglish... 360 00:22:14,124 --> 00:22:16,923 Oh, that's nice! That's lovely! 361 00:22:18,212 --> 00:22:20,135 He hit the ground running. 362 00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:23,847 Straight away you could tell, this fella is something special. 363 00:22:23,884 --> 00:22:25,227 He's got a second chance 364 00:22:25,261 --> 00:22:26,888 because Harris's clearance was a bad one. 365 00:22:26,929 --> 00:22:28,397 And he's curled it in! 366 00:22:28,430 --> 00:22:31,855 The minute he started playing I was mesmerized. 367 00:22:31,892 --> 00:22:33,144 Kenny Dalglish! 368 00:22:33,185 --> 00:22:35,979 Much too good a player to be given a second chance. 369 00:22:35,980 --> 00:22:37,607 We thought, 'We've had it good up until now. 370 00:22:37,648 --> 00:22:39,150 This is going to be great!' 371 00:22:39,191 --> 00:22:40,738 Dalglish, the shot and it's going in! 372 00:22:40,776 --> 00:22:43,976 If I was a manager, he would be the first name on the team-sheet week after week. 373 00:22:45,197 --> 00:22:50,499 He had grace, he had skill and he had football intelligence. 374 00:22:51,579 --> 00:22:55,830 You saw a player that has all the time in the world. 375 00:22:56,250 --> 00:22:58,480 You knew there was something special there. 376 00:22:58,919 --> 00:23:00,842 He had three defenders around him. 377 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,850 He went one way, he went the other and then he went between them. 378 00:23:03,883 --> 00:23:06,636 And as he came from going the other way 379 00:23:06,677 --> 00:23:09,772 I'm sure his shoulder was almost on the ground. 380 00:23:09,805 --> 00:23:11,773 He was like a dancer. 381 00:23:15,686 --> 00:23:18,938 Kenny Dalglish was born with a great gift. 382 00:23:18,939 --> 00:23:22,193 And that's something I suppose if you asked him to describe 383 00:23:22,234 --> 00:23:24,328 how he scored a goal or explain how he did something 384 00:23:24,361 --> 00:23:25,533 he'd find it almost impossible. 385 00:23:25,571 --> 00:23:27,915 I do and I know Kenny would as well. 386 00:23:27,948 --> 00:23:31,770 His brain, you can see he's three, four moves ahead of everyone else. 387 00:23:31,118 --> 00:23:34,748 And at times I've watched him play and I've got frustrated for him 388 00:23:34,788 --> 00:23:37,132 because I know he's thinking ahead of other people. 389 00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:40,173 Certainly, the idea is to take the battle 390 00:23:40,210 --> 00:23:41,757 even more now to Brugge. 391 00:23:42,671 --> 00:23:44,799 It was a game that was going nowhere. 392 00:23:45,549 --> 00:23:47,347 Still no goals. 393 00:23:48,177 --> 00:23:50,396 And then this moment came. 394 00:23:50,429 --> 00:23:52,220 And here's Dalglish. 395 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,600 Souness had the ball and he divided the defense. 396 00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:57,899 Kenny runs on to it and then... 397 00:24:07,321 --> 00:24:09,244 we'd won the European Cup! 398 00:24:14,495 --> 00:24:17,890 To score a goal was a dream come true. 399 00:24:19,416 --> 00:24:21,919 If you scored a goal, you got a Mini. 400 00:24:22,461 --> 00:24:27,920 I've come in after the game and Marina went, 'Oh, when will the Mini arrive?!' 401 00:24:27,132 --> 00:24:28,725 I went, 'What do you mean?' 402 00:24:28,759 --> 00:24:31,103 She said, 'Well, you get a Mini for scoring the winning goal.' 403 00:24:31,136 --> 00:24:35,937 I went, 'Marina, it's gone for a night out for the boys! 404 00:24:37,101 --> 00:24:38,694 There'll be no Mini!' 405 00:24:40,688 --> 00:24:43,658 I always wanted to go on an open-top bus, 406 00:24:43,691 --> 00:24:45,785 showing off the trophy. 407 00:24:45,818 --> 00:24:47,616 There was a restriction in Glasgow 408 00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:49,701 that neither Celtic or Rangers could do a bus tour. 409 00:24:50,781 --> 00:24:55,200 Ah, that was unbelievable the number of people that turned out. 410 00:24:55,350 --> 00:24:59,461 Also, there was a significant number of blue and white scarves there as well. 411 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,425 It was just a reflection of the people in the city. 412 00:25:08,257 --> 00:25:13,130 The fans, the atmosphere was just the best. 413 00:25:17,224 --> 00:25:18,976 It was unbelievable. 414 00:25:19,180 --> 00:25:22,147 But you were usually that pissed you cannae remember! 415 00:25:28,652 --> 00:25:32,122 Where there is discord, may we bring harmony. 416 00:25:32,156 --> 00:25:35,160 Where there is error, may we bring truth. 417 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,329 Where there is doubt, may we bring faith. 418 00:25:41,248 --> 00:25:43,216 I always thought that Liverpool 419 00:25:43,250 --> 00:25:45,799 was like a pain in the arse to the establishment. 420 00:25:47,460 --> 00:25:49,925 They had no time for Liverpool whatsoever. 421 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,353 For more than a generation, Liverpool had been like the hub. 422 00:25:54,386 --> 00:25:57,640 Everything that came into the country more or less came into Liverpool. 423 00:25:59,391 --> 00:26:01,985 The country owed quite a lot to Liverpool. 424 00:26:02,190 --> 00:26:04,818 But when they decided it didn't have much more to contribute 425 00:26:04,855 --> 00:26:08,951 particularly under Heath and Thatcher, 'We'll give it the elbow.' 426 00:26:10,319 --> 00:26:12,242 It was struggling in terms of poverty 427 00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:15,249 it was struggling in terms of institutionalized racism 428 00:26:15,282 --> 00:26:18,661 and it was struggling in terms of the marginalization of its working class. 429 00:26:20,662 --> 00:26:24,508 'In the present context, it may serve to as a useful reminder 430 00:26:24,541 --> 00:26:29,843 of the need to be careful not to over-commit scarce resources to Liverpool. 431 00:26:30,506 --> 00:26:35,854 I cannot help feeling that the option of managed decline 432 00:26:35,886 --> 00:26:39,186 is one which we should not forget altogether. 433 00:26:39,223 --> 00:26:45,697 We must not expend all our resources in trying to make water flow uphill.' 434 00:26:45,729 --> 00:26:50,280 That's appalling. That is appalling. 435 00:26:52,111 --> 00:26:54,239 These were bad times. And serious times. 436 00:26:56,532 --> 00:26:58,703 You know when you're pushed against a wall 437 00:26:58,704 --> 00:27:00,668 and there's nowhere else you can go. 438 00:27:00,702 --> 00:27:02,579 The only way you can go anywhere is forward. 439 00:27:04,373 --> 00:27:08,300 The one thing that did give people some hope was the football. 440 00:27:08,836 --> 00:27:13,387 I'll never forget, you know, walking three miles up to the ground 441 00:27:13,423 --> 00:27:16,970 and the feeling, the buzz as you were getting closer. 442 00:27:17,928 --> 00:27:23,401 It just gave everybody in that city something to believe in. 443 00:27:25,102 --> 00:27:27,196 You get heartbreak, you share the heartbreak. 444 00:27:28,210 --> 00:27:29,739 When they thought we were a little bit down 445 00:27:29,773 --> 00:27:31,366 they could lift us. 446 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,697 And when you scored a goal... 447 00:27:34,236 --> 00:27:35,533 Well, you share in it. 448 00:27:36,196 --> 00:27:38,699 What else have you got to look for? 449 00:27:38,740 --> 00:27:40,492 And all's you've got is the football. 450 00:27:41,535 --> 00:27:43,412 We'd feel as happy as they did. 451 00:27:44,288 --> 00:27:46,791 I know what's going on all week and I know we're having a bad time 452 00:27:46,832 --> 00:27:48,755 and I know conditions are not right but never mind 453 00:27:48,792 --> 00:27:50,840 we've got Saturday to look forward to. 454 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,508 If you economically marginalize communities 455 00:27:55,549 --> 00:27:58,473 they won't go away with their tail between their legs. 456 00:27:58,510 --> 00:28:00,353 They will fight back. 457 00:28:02,970 --> 00:28:04,225 7 minutes to 3. 458 00:28:04,266 --> 00:28:07,861 Without a shadow of doubt, somebody would shout, 'Stick together.' 459 00:28:07,895 --> 00:28:10,775 "Ever Fallen In Love" by Buzzcocks 460 00:28:18,113 --> 00:28:19,615 Dalglish... 461 00:28:19,656 --> 00:28:21,780 It might break for him. It does! 462 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,298 It's Dalglish, and he turns! That's a goal! 463 00:28:57,194 --> 00:29:01,540 I signed for Liverpool as a teenager. I think 300,000. 464 00:29:01,573 --> 00:29:03,871 But I was really panicking. 465 00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:05,832 So first thing, I walk in the dressing room 466 00:29:05,869 --> 00:29:08,497 I got changed next to Ray Clemence, Alan Hansen. 467 00:29:08,538 --> 00:29:11,870 You know, and I didn't say a word and everything. 468 00:29:11,124 --> 00:29:13,752 And I always remember you lot, the famous one was saying 469 00:29:13,794 --> 00:29:16,263 'You got changed in the dark did you?' You know? 470 00:29:16,296 --> 00:29:19,175 And everyone was like taking the mickey and all that 471 00:29:19,216 --> 00:29:21,264 and I didn't know how to take it to tell you the truth. 472 00:29:21,301 --> 00:29:22,461 I was really panicking, like. 473 00:29:24,221 --> 00:29:25,643 Rushie, you normally put them in. 474 00:29:26,139 --> 00:29:27,436 I missed it altogether! 475 00:29:27,474 --> 00:29:29,351 A huge part of the success as the club 476 00:29:29,393 --> 00:29:31,111 was the atmosphere in the dressing room 477 00:29:31,144 --> 00:29:33,442 and if somebody walks into the dressing room 478 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,653 the best way to make them feel part of it 479 00:29:35,691 --> 00:29:37,819 is maybe not to rip them to bits but... 480 00:29:37,859 --> 00:29:39,310 But you did! 481 00:29:39,690 --> 00:29:40,742 I know, but we were spoiled for it. 482 00:29:40,779 --> 00:29:42,827 We had loads of ammunition, didn't we? 483 00:29:42,864 --> 00:29:45,367 Yeah. 484 00:29:45,409 --> 00:29:47,286 What's he like off the pitch? 485 00:29:47,327 --> 00:29:50,752 In 5-a-side, d'you mean? Or away from the pitch? 486 00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:52,507 I don't know. He doesn't talk. 487 00:29:52,541 --> 00:29:54,900 Nobody knows! 488 00:29:54,420 --> 00:29:56,886 I must say I like your cat. Are you fond of animals? 489 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,800 Yes, my favourite is a seal. And I also like whales. 490 00:30:00,841 --> 00:30:02,218 Well, where do you keep them? 491 00:30:02,259 --> 00:30:04,853 Well, now, I spend most of my time around the pool. 492 00:30:04,886 --> 00:30:06,888 There are a lots of big fish there. 493 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,686 If you're winding them up or having a laugh at their expense 494 00:30:11,727 --> 00:30:14,401 it's almost like you welcome them. 495 00:30:14,438 --> 00:30:16,611 The first impression, no, I didn't like Kenny. 496 00:30:17,441 --> 00:30:20,615 I was very shy and also I remember about Kenny 497 00:30:20,652 --> 00:30:22,154 he just took the mickey out of me. 498 00:30:22,195 --> 00:30:25,449 Yeah, I got a wee bit on top of him I think at the very beginning. 499 00:30:25,490 --> 00:30:28,744 So in trying to be helpful, although it might sound cruel 500 00:30:28,785 --> 00:30:31,629 the help that you were giving him, we almost lost him. 501 00:30:32,622 --> 00:30:35,250 Almost lost him. What a tragedy that would have been. 502 00:30:35,292 --> 00:30:39,798 Onside. Ian Rush. 1-0 Liverpool. Brilliant goal! 503 00:30:39,838 --> 00:30:43,183 Then after about 6 or 7 months, you realised everyone's in it together. 504 00:30:43,216 --> 00:30:45,264 That's what the true Liverpool spirit was, wasn't it? 505 00:30:45,302 --> 00:30:48,210 Aye. - As you say, it wasn't just the games. 506 00:30:48,550 --> 00:30:50,145 Going in everyday, knowing about what's going on 507 00:30:50,146 --> 00:30:51,562 about the club and everything. 508 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,220 As Kenny was getting older 509 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,983 he said, 'Now you can help rne with the running and all that.' 510 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,317 And that's what you do. 511 00:30:56,355 --> 00:30:59,234 He said, 'Your job is just to score goals. 512 00:30:59,274 --> 00:31:00,651 Leave the rest to me. 513 00:31:00,692 --> 00:31:03,161 When I get the ball, you just run into that space.' 514 00:31:03,195 --> 00:31:05,720 Dalglish. Rush. 515 00:31:05,113 --> 00:31:07,582 He didn't even look. He just put the ball in that space. 516 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,750 There you see just why Ian Rush is feared so much. 517 00:31:11,787 --> 00:31:13,400 That's how good Kenny was. 518 00:31:13,380 --> 00:31:15,882 And I thought, 'I can get to like this.' 519 00:31:15,916 --> 00:31:16,963 Because I was quick 520 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,252 Dalglish, look at that. Rush is through... 521 00:31:18,293 --> 00:31:20,466 And I had like two yards on the defenders. 522 00:31:22,631 --> 00:31:26,135 He's hit the post. He might score now... he has! 523 00:31:26,885 --> 00:31:28,683 It was his football brain. 524 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,768 He can see things way before anyone else. 525 00:31:30,806 --> 00:31:32,558 Neal's clearance to Dalglish. 526 00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:33,942 Beautiful turn. 527 00:31:33,975 --> 00:31:36,603 Oh, and on for Rush with a perfect through ball. 528 00:31:38,210 --> 00:31:39,701 Because I managed to get on his wavelength. 529 00:31:40,315 --> 00:31:41,942 Ian Rush celebrates the goal 530 00:31:41,983 --> 00:31:44,987 but Kenny Dalglish, the creator supreme. 531 00:31:46,238 --> 00:31:48,707 What he was best at was turning defenders. 532 00:31:49,574 --> 00:31:51,702 Splendid turn. Clemence in the way again 533 00:31:51,743 --> 00:31:53,791 but Rush... and still Clemence... 534 00:31:53,829 --> 00:31:55,797 Then once he turned defenders he was either in himself 535 00:31:55,831 --> 00:31:57,424 or he'd put someone else in. 536 00:31:57,457 --> 00:32:00,711 Straight on from Dalglish to Rush... 537 00:32:02,421 --> 00:32:03,421 and it's in at last! 538 00:32:05,173 --> 00:32:07,676 He was not one for self-glory. 539 00:32:07,717 --> 00:32:09,936 He was a reflection of what Liverpool was all about. 540 00:32:11,721 --> 00:32:14,816 Ronnie Whelan came in at the same time as you 541 00:32:14,850 --> 00:32:16,773 and he used to take the piss out of you as well. 542 00:32:19,729 --> 00:32:21,481 Kenny for me is the best Liverpool player 543 00:32:21,523 --> 00:32:22,900 they've had in their history. 544 00:32:22,941 --> 00:32:24,909 He's the King without doubt. 545 00:32:33,535 --> 00:32:36,129 This afternoon, Liverpool appointed a new player-manager 546 00:32:36,163 --> 00:32:40,505 to replace Joe Fagan, who announced his retirement before yesterday's match. 547 00:32:40,506 --> 00:32:44,755 He's Kenny Dalglish, one of Liverpool's most capped international players. 548 00:32:54,764 --> 00:32:57,108 Shanks built the place for everybody. 549 00:32:57,142 --> 00:32:59,611 Old Bob carried it on. Joe Fagan was next. 550 00:32:59,644 --> 00:33:01,817 And then I'm thrown into that. 551 00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:06,569 He came to rne room and he said, 'I need a bit of advice.' 552 00:33:06,610 --> 00:33:10,490 He says, 'What about management? What do you think?' 553 00:33:11,323 --> 00:33:12,870 I says, 'Do you fancy it?' 554 00:33:12,908 --> 00:33:16,287 He says, 'Yeah, well, there could be something in the offing.' 555 00:33:16,328 --> 00:33:18,581 And a few weeks later he's the manager of Liverpool. 556 00:33:19,456 --> 00:33:22,209 When I saw that, I says, 'You bugger, you've... 557 00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:23,923 you've had me!' 558 00:33:26,129 --> 00:33:28,257 We were going out for something to eat with the girls 559 00:33:28,298 --> 00:33:31,510 and he just turned around and he said, 'I've got news for you. 560 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,220 They've asked rne to become manager of Liverpool and I've accepted.' 561 00:33:34,221 --> 00:33:36,644 So I said, 'Yeah, you're kidding.' 562 00:33:36,681 --> 00:33:38,979 He said, 'No, no, no.' I said, 'Well...' 563 00:33:39,170 --> 00:33:40,894 He said, 'No, no, Joe's gone, ' he says. 564 00:33:40,936 --> 00:33:42,654 'And I'm gonna be player-manager.' 565 00:33:42,687 --> 00:33:45,816 I mean, I had three years left on my contract or four years left. 566 00:33:45,857 --> 00:33:48,986 I'd just signed a four-year contract so I'm thinking... 567 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,621 'Well, I'm not taking a chance here 568 00:33:51,655 --> 00:33:55,660 because if I'm rubbish the first year, just take the managerial role off rne 569 00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:57,668 and I'll carry on in my playing contract.' 570 00:33:58,662 --> 00:34:00,585 I'd never really heard about player-managers 571 00:34:00,622 --> 00:34:02,420 and then when we heard that Kenny Dalglish was gonna manage 572 00:34:02,457 --> 00:34:05,631 Liverpool and Liverpool were obviously the best team in Europe 573 00:34:05,669 --> 00:34:07,797 how did the team respond to that? 574 00:34:07,837 --> 00:34:09,383 You have to call him 'boss'. 575 00:34:09,384 --> 00:34:11,554 He's your boss so you've got to call him 'boss.' 576 00:34:11,591 --> 00:34:13,719 'That means I can't talk to you now.' 577 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,637 And he said, 'Oh, nothing's gonna change.' 578 00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:17,226 I said, 'Nothing's gonna change? 579 00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:19,357 You've got to be kidding, ain't you?' 580 00:34:19,391 --> 00:34:22,590 He knew that in the dressing room 581 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,439 I would never, ever tell him anything that was going on 582 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,482 and he didn't want that. 583 00:34:27,524 --> 00:34:29,902 But if there were any problems I could go to him and say 584 00:34:29,943 --> 00:34:31,490 'Look, there's a bit of a problem here.' Whatever. 585 00:34:31,528 --> 00:34:33,656 It worked absolutely perfectly. 586 00:34:33,697 --> 00:34:36,746 I remember coming back to the house with Jannie 587 00:34:36,783 --> 00:34:41,459 and saying, 'That's it. I mean, this friendship's gone. 588 00:34:41,496 --> 00:34:43,624 And it'll never ever come back.' 589 00:34:43,665 --> 00:34:46,635 But you know, he came in and... 590 00:34:47,627 --> 00:34:50,130 well, I mean he still has that... 591 00:34:50,171 --> 00:34:51,343 and he was still playing. 592 00:34:51,381 --> 00:34:54,550 And you know what he was like when he got older, he got grumpier. 593 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,390 You know, when you used to play it into his feet 594 00:34:56,428 --> 00:35:00,228 you could play it five yards either side and then when he got older 595 00:35:00,265 --> 00:35:01,733 you had to be spot on. 596 00:35:01,766 --> 00:35:04,110 Go wide on either side. 597 00:35:04,144 --> 00:35:05,771 Phil Neal was captain. 598 00:35:05,812 --> 00:35:08,816 I swapped that and put Alan in as captain. 599 00:35:08,857 --> 00:35:10,575 Not because he was a better player 600 00:35:10,609 --> 00:35:14,113 not because he was a pa! of mine 601 00:35:14,154 --> 00:35:16,282 because I thought a captain has to be fortunate 602 00:35:16,323 --> 00:35:18,746 has to be lucky, as well as good 603 00:35:18,783 --> 00:35:22,300 and to have the respect of the dressing room 604 00:35:22,370 --> 00:35:23,835 and I think he had all three. 605 00:35:23,872 --> 00:35:27,460 Pre-season friendly at Brighton, I'm sitting beside him 606 00:35:27,830 --> 00:35:29,882 and he goes, 'Right, you take the ball.' 607 00:35:30,462 --> 00:35:31,930 And I went, 'What are you talking about?' 608 00:35:31,963 --> 00:35:35,308 He said, 'Are you taking the piss? You're the captain.' 609 00:35:37,636 --> 00:35:40,230 Never changed a thing. Did you? Really. 610 00:35:40,263 --> 00:35:41,981 Monday morning, when we used to... 611 00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:43,312 We had tea and biscuits. 612 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,939 It was his idea and he even went and bought the biscuits. 613 00:35:47,979 --> 00:35:50,448 Borrowed the money of course but great idea! 614 00:35:54,694 --> 00:35:58,742 I thought it was gonna be difficult, it was gonna be a huge change 615 00:35:58,743 --> 00:36:01,619 but if they had the belief in me then the least I could do 616 00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:04,914 was try and find out if I had the belief in myself. 617 00:36:04,954 --> 00:36:06,581 Who are the players you like? 618 00:36:06,623 --> 00:36:08,796 Kenny Dalglish. - Paul Walsh. 619 00:36:08,833 --> 00:36:10,500 Paul Walsh! - Jan Molby. 620 00:36:10,794 --> 00:36:13,923 We played Everton and we get beaten 2-0. 621 00:36:13,963 --> 00:36:15,510 And Grobbelaar. Goal! 622 00:36:16,675 --> 00:36:19,144 And we go out for dinner at night and I say to him 623 00:36:19,177 --> 00:36:21,646 'This is the worst Liverpool side I've ever played in.' 624 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,398 Can it be 2 for Everton? 625 00:36:23,431 --> 00:36:24,431 By far! 626 00:36:25,580 --> 00:36:26,401 It is! 627 00:36:26,851 --> 00:36:29,240 And he turned round and he said, 'Well, ' he said 628 00:36:29,620 --> 00:36:30,359 'Yeah' he said. 629 00:36:30,397 --> 00:36:31,819 'Maybe the players aren't as good this season.' 630 00:36:31,856 --> 00:36:34,860 But if we could just get something going 631 00:36:34,901 --> 00:36:36,403 you know, we could still do something.' 632 00:36:36,444 --> 00:36:38,492 And I've gone, 'Have you been drinking?!' 633 00:36:40,730 --> 00:36:42,496 And Dalglish gets away with Rush going on the left. 634 00:36:42,534 --> 00:36:47,131 On the right he's got Craig Johnston. This is Rush. Yes! 635 00:36:48,581 --> 00:36:50,174 And now Johnston. 636 00:36:50,917 --> 00:36:54,638 And he fires it across. McMahon! He's got his second. 637 00:36:55,839 --> 00:36:58,308 Gillespie getting up underneath this one and his header! 638 00:36:58,309 --> 00:37:00,267 Finds the back of the net! 639 00:37:01,761 --> 00:37:03,308 So you think Liverpool are gonna win? 640 00:37:03,346 --> 00:37:04,643 Yeah. 641 00:37:04,848 --> 00:37:07,397 Well, who's gonna beat them? - CROWD LAUGHS 642 00:37:11,980 --> 00:37:13,823 That was Hansen heading down. 643 00:37:13,857 --> 00:37:15,359 Thomas miscued. 644 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,529 And Rush played it back and Whelan fired it 645 00:37:18,570 --> 00:37:20,720 and it came to Molby. 646 00:37:20,113 --> 00:37:21,706 And that's the equalizer! 647 00:37:21,740 --> 00:37:25,495 We just got a bit of momentum and kept going and going and going. 648 00:37:25,535 --> 00:37:27,629 It was like a journey that we're on. 649 00:37:29,380 --> 00:37:31,166 And Whelan coming forward... 650 00:37:32,834 --> 00:37:36,134 There it is! Number two! 651 00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:38,597 Rush is in there... 652 00:37:38,965 --> 00:37:40,638 Oh, and it fell to McMahon! 653 00:37:41,426 --> 00:37:43,178 We won 12 and drew the other one 654 00:37:43,219 --> 00:37:45,472 in the last 13 matches and then we won the double. 655 00:37:45,513 --> 00:37:47,356 And Dalglish is in here. 656 00:37:47,390 --> 00:37:51,611 Yes! The player-manager scores the goal! 657 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,900 They win the double! The finest team that we've ever seen! 658 00:37:56,941 --> 00:38:00,115 And then it's... 3-2. 659 00:38:03,490 --> 00:38:04,662 And Dalglish... 660 00:38:04,699 --> 00:38:07,452 And Rush is on the far side. Is this 3? It is! 661 00:38:12,832 --> 00:38:15,506 You went crazy when we came off that pitch. 662 00:38:15,543 --> 00:38:17,295 And Liverpool Football Club 663 00:38:17,337 --> 00:38:20,807 have become only the third team this century 664 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,344 to win the marvelous double in the same season. 665 00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:35,480 From somewhere he galvanized the players from really nowhere. 666 00:38:39,234 --> 00:38:41,320 It's one of his greatest achievements. 667 00:38:42,529 --> 00:38:44,247 Probably the greatest. 668 00:38:47,659 --> 00:38:49,200 Here. 669 00:38:49,350 --> 00:38:51,584 Have a wee sip. Let's see what that is you're drinking, Lyns. 670 00:38:55,834 --> 00:38:57,131 Good girl. 671 00:38:58,545 --> 00:39:00,388 Oh, yes. 672 00:39:01,381 --> 00:39:03,509 This is what the cameraman likes to see! 673 00:39:04,175 --> 00:39:06,303 Yes, Dad! Yeah! 674 00:39:06,344 --> 00:39:07,971 Dad does video. 675 00:39:13,476 --> 00:39:15,604 He promised me that when he finished playing 676 00:39:15,645 --> 00:39:18,489 he had no intentions of doing anything in football. 677 00:39:19,566 --> 00:39:21,534 Hello! - Hello? 678 00:39:21,568 --> 00:39:23,115 He didn't know what he was going to do 679 00:39:23,152 --> 00:39:26,760 and then he was offered the manager job at Liverpool. 680 00:39:27,323 --> 00:39:30,122 Lynsey, your share's over beside the rocking horse. 681 00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:31,536 That's all your pressies. 682 00:39:32,412 --> 00:39:34,255 Go and see if there are any babies over there. 683 00:39:34,289 --> 00:39:36,291 This is the best Christmas ever! 684 00:39:37,830 --> 00:39:39,677 And he'd said to me, 'When I finish playing, that's it for me.' 685 00:39:41,337 --> 00:39:43,556 And he said, 'What will I do when he's offered us?' 686 00:39:43,590 --> 00:39:46,844 You can't turn the manager of Liverpool job down.' 687 00:39:46,885 --> 00:39:49,130 Shall I move these? 688 00:39:50,471 --> 00:39:52,690 - Sing, girl. - No. 689 00:39:52,807 --> 00:39:54,935 ♪ Come on Eileen 690 00:39:54,976 --> 00:39:56,899 Dexys Midnight Runners! 691 00:39:58,688 --> 00:40:01,660 Corning straight out of playing into management... 692 00:40:02,250 --> 00:40:04,119 it was difficult for rne because I loved the dressing room 693 00:40:04,152 --> 00:40:05,870 I loved the banter, I loved the carry-on. 694 00:40:05,904 --> 00:40:08,202 Have you tried it? - It's spicy. 695 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,241 I think he was easier going when he was player 696 00:40:10,283 --> 00:40:11,751 because you were part of a team. 697 00:40:11,784 --> 00:40:14,162 Whereas as the manager, everything rests on your shoulders. 698 00:40:14,203 --> 00:40:15,329 I think it was different. 699 00:40:15,371 --> 00:40:18,124 It was more stressful as a manager than what it was as a player. 700 00:40:18,166 --> 00:40:20,464 Well, he won't play anything! 701 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,633 - He's always in bed. - Even football? 702 00:40:22,670 --> 00:40:25,480 Well, he plays football with Paul but he's always in bed. 703 00:40:25,890 --> 00:40:28,389 Yes, and he won't play my Scalextric with me! 704 00:40:30,940 --> 00:40:31,774 That's not been out for a long time. 705 00:40:31,804 --> 00:40:35,434 Lynsey, you like Daddy don't you? 706 00:40:37,602 --> 00:40:39,220 Well, there you go! 707 00:40:39,230 --> 00:40:40,818 Definitely when he was managing 708 00:40:40,855 --> 00:40:42,482 you would notice a change in mood. 709 00:40:42,523 --> 00:40:45,260 It was very rarely to do with the result of the game. 710 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,696 It was mostly to do with how the team had played. 711 00:40:47,737 --> 00:40:49,785 If they'd done what he'd asked them to do 712 00:40:49,822 --> 00:40:52,245 if he'd felt that they'd given enough on the pitch. 713 00:40:52,283 --> 00:40:54,126 I remember coming back in the car once 714 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,505 and he was in a really bad mood and Mum was like 715 00:40:57,538 --> 00:40:58,630 'If that's what you're like when you've won 716 00:40:58,665 --> 00:41:00,167 imagine what you're like when you lose!' 717 00:41:00,208 --> 00:41:03,553 And he was like, 'Yeah but this went wrong and that went wrong.' 718 00:41:03,586 --> 00:41:07,900 It was harder to predict because it wasn't all about the result. 719 00:41:07,966 --> 00:41:09,468 When he came home, he unwound. 720 00:41:09,509 --> 00:41:10,806 When he came home with the children 721 00:41:10,843 --> 00:41:12,186 because four kids you come home 722 00:41:12,220 --> 00:41:13,767 and you really can't.., 723 00:41:13,805 --> 00:41:16,979 you can't think of anything else when you've got four of you. 724 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,394 But you could have your moments, couldn't you? 725 00:41:20,186 --> 00:41:22,860 You weren't always like Mr Nice Guy. 726 00:41:22,897 --> 00:41:25,366 I mean, we... we can't tell lies about you. 727 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,868 You're not always Mr Nice Guy, are you? 728 00:41:26,901 --> 00:41:28,781 You're not always a nice person yourself! 729 00:41:28,820 --> 00:41:29,946 Am! 730 00:41:31,300 --> 00:41:33,954 You try your best not to bring your work home 731 00:41:33,992 --> 00:41:37,166 but I think in football it's a lot more difficult 732 00:41:37,203 --> 00:41:38,250 not to bring your work home 733 00:41:38,287 --> 00:41:42,337 because everybody else has brought it into your house. 734 00:41:46,713 --> 00:41:50,763 Kenny, if you don't know him, can be a very awkward guy. 735 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,643 But, I mean, he's a very private person 736 00:41:52,677 --> 00:41:55,438 and he's only got time for his family and people that he really knows. 737 00:41:56,889 --> 00:41:58,687 I mean, he's a nightmare for the press. 738 00:41:59,684 --> 00:42:03,109 Ideally, he'd like to play the game of football 739 00:42:03,146 --> 00:42:04,363 and get into his car and go straight home 740 00:42:04,397 --> 00:42:06,445 and not have to talk to anybody afterwards. 741 00:42:08,670 --> 00:42:10,695 Obviously, when you stand up in a press conference 742 00:42:10,737 --> 00:42:12,284 there's a lot of people there 743 00:42:12,321 --> 00:42:14,949 and there's people there that really you cannae trust 744 00:42:14,991 --> 00:42:17,494 with the words that you're gonna use, or you'd like to use. 745 00:42:17,535 --> 00:42:19,820 And all you need is one slip of the tongue 746 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,374 and you get whatever the quotes you've made 747 00:42:22,415 --> 00:42:24,918 wrongly attributed to you because they twist them. 748 00:42:26,252 --> 00:42:28,471 The only reason I've come is because they'll no' tell the truth anyway. 749 00:42:28,504 --> 00:42:30,584 They what, sorry? - They don't tell the truth anyway. 750 00:42:31,490 --> 00:42:32,767 People are a wee bit frightened of him. 751 00:42:33,676 --> 00:42:36,930 He growls at people and he's... he makes people jump. 752 00:42:38,181 --> 00:42:40,183 And that with his knowledge and that 753 00:42:40,224 --> 00:42:42,602 the fact that he was such a great player. 754 00:42:42,643 --> 00:42:44,941 I mean, who can argue with him? 755 00:42:44,979 --> 00:42:46,572 You've got to respect that. 756 00:42:46,606 --> 00:42:50,531 Kenny thinks that weakness is a weakness. 757 00:42:50,568 --> 00:42:53,788 Um, and he ain't for it. 758 00:42:54,781 --> 00:42:57,705 To describe him you'd say strong character. 759 00:42:58,910 --> 00:43:01,959 In fact, very strong character. 760 00:43:03,539 --> 00:43:06,418 In fact, very, very, very strong character. 761 00:43:07,210 --> 00:43:09,713 You're called ruthless but in a nice way. 762 00:43:11,890 --> 00:43:12,341 Well, I don't know about that. 763 00:43:12,342 --> 00:43:14,684 Do you take that as a compliment or not? 764 00:43:14,717 --> 00:43:16,594 Well, as you say, I know what I've got to do 765 00:43:16,636 --> 00:43:18,354 and they realise what I've got to do. 766 00:43:18,387 --> 00:43:21,106 And they realise the importance I place on them 767 00:43:21,140 --> 00:43:23,268 and they realise the importance that the decision that I make 768 00:43:23,309 --> 00:43:25,610 is for the club's benefit. 769 00:43:25,103 --> 00:43:27,697 And that's the way it will always be for rne here. 770 00:43:27,730 --> 00:43:29,528 Some of them were saying as well 771 00:43:29,565 --> 00:43:31,192 that maybe the public have got the wrong impression of you 772 00:43:31,234 --> 00:43:33,236 through the media, which isn't your fault obviously 773 00:43:33,277 --> 00:43:34,904 but, uh, you know, that you are a bit dour. 774 00:43:34,946 --> 00:43:36,448 But we all know... I mean, I've known you for years 775 00:43:36,489 --> 00:43:38,332 and you've got a cracking sense of humour. 776 00:43:38,366 --> 00:43:39,959 And you enjoy that, don't you? 777 00:43:39,992 --> 00:43:42,165 Yeah. You've got to have a laugh, I think. 778 00:43:47,291 --> 00:43:50,761 I think he thinks maybe somebody's trying to trick him 779 00:43:50,795 --> 00:43:53,844 or trying to coerce him into a certain answer. 780 00:43:53,881 --> 00:43:56,760 I'm not sure why he's like that with the media. 781 00:43:56,801 --> 00:43:59,600 I think a lot of his attitude and commitment was tremendous really. 782 00:43:59,637 --> 00:44:00,637 Erm... 783 00:44:01,305 --> 00:44:03,399 Lawro's playing out of position and he's... 784 00:44:03,432 --> 00:44:06,600 he's had as good a game as anybody on the pitch. 785 00:44:08,771 --> 00:44:10,819 But, yeah, he's not like that at all. 786 00:44:14,110 --> 00:44:15,362 He's really, really funny. 787 00:44:22,785 --> 00:44:24,833 Ladies and gentlemen. 788 00:44:26,122 --> 00:44:28,420 That's obviously ladies and gentlemen! 789 00:44:31,252 --> 00:44:32,970 What is it? - Eh? 790 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,564 What's he saying? What's he saying then? 791 00:44:35,673 --> 00:44:36,970 I'd like to thank... 792 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,560 I'd like to thank... 793 00:44:39,802 --> 00:44:42,351 I think obviously you understand that the press 794 00:44:43,556 --> 00:44:46,105 have got a role to play and they've got a job to do. 795 00:44:46,142 --> 00:44:48,565 But equally, I've got a job to do. 796 00:44:48,603 --> 00:44:50,981 I don't need to try and do their job for them. 797 00:44:51,220 --> 00:44:53,195 And I don't expect them to try and do my job 798 00:44:53,232 --> 00:44:57,783 so I protected the players if they deserved to be protected. 799 00:44:59,906 --> 00:45:01,158 It's working! 800 00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:03,577 Let's see your new pyjamas, come on. 801 00:45:03,618 --> 00:45:05,860 It is working. 802 00:45:09,373 --> 00:45:11,671 You have to make the bed now! I was sleeping! 803 00:45:17,256 --> 00:45:19,350 I'll always be on my guard when I make statements 804 00:45:19,383 --> 00:45:20,600 about Liverpool Football Club. 805 00:45:20,635 --> 00:45:23,229 I've got to protect myself basically to protect the club. 806 00:45:23,262 --> 00:45:25,310 So really are you saying you're being cautious 807 00:45:25,348 --> 00:45:26,600 as opposed to dour? 808 00:45:27,767 --> 00:45:29,110 I've got to concentrate. 809 00:45:29,143 --> 00:45:32,147 I find it hard to concentrate and speak at the same time. 810 00:45:32,188 --> 00:45:33,815 Speaking's a big problem for me 811 00:45:33,856 --> 00:45:36,560 and I find the concentration a bit of a problem as well. 812 00:45:36,484 --> 00:45:39,328 He's intelligent although he pretends he's stupid. 813 00:45:40,290 --> 00:45:43,704 He could cut interviewers in two just with his one-liners. 814 00:45:44,283 --> 00:45:46,285 I don't understand him and he said he's got trouble with me. 815 00:45:46,327 --> 00:45:48,295 Well, it goes both ways! 816 00:45:49,538 --> 00:45:51,290 He is a bit hard to understand 817 00:45:51,332 --> 00:45:52,709 I would think in team meetings and the like, isn't he? 818 00:45:52,750 --> 00:45:54,548 Pardon? - He's a bit hard to understand... 819 00:45:57,755 --> 00:45:59,980 Be yourself 820 00:45:59,131 --> 00:46:01,759 because when you wake up in the morning 821 00:46:01,801 --> 00:46:03,599 you know what you've said the day before. 822 00:46:04,345 --> 00:46:05,722 And if you know yourself 823 00:46:05,763 --> 00:46:07,481 I think you've got to have a very good memory 824 00:46:07,515 --> 00:46:09,108 to remember what you've said. 825 00:46:09,141 --> 00:46:11,235 And I never had a very good memory 826 00:46:11,269 --> 00:46:13,271 so it was no use to me that... 827 00:46:13,312 --> 00:46:14,939 that wasn't an option. 828 00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:18,858 ♪ Liverpool FC is hard as hell 829 00:46:18,859 --> 00:46:21,237 ♪ United, Tottenham, Arsenal 830 00:46:21,279 --> 00:46:23,702 Watch my lips and I will spell 831 00:46:23,739 --> 00:46:27,164 ♪ 'Cause they don't just play but they can rap as well! 832 00:46:27,660 --> 00:46:29,300 Liverpool FC 833 00:46:30,790 --> 00:46:32,810 Liverpool FC 834 00:46:32,123 --> 00:46:34,501 Listen, it was a Cup Final so of course we were gonna do a song. 835 00:46:34,502 --> 00:46:37,424 And I don't know if I wasn't there we woudn't've done a rap. 836 00:46:39,213 --> 00:46:41,807 ♪ Walk on, walk on 837 00:46:41,841 --> 00:46:44,259 With hope in your heart 838 00:46:44,260 --> 00:46:47,730 And you'll never walk alone ♪ 839 00:46:47,763 --> 00:46:50,186 It was a good laugh doing it. - Yeah, it was a laugh. 840 00:46:50,224 --> 00:46:52,397 Can you remember your lines, AI? - I can't remember. 841 00:46:52,435 --> 00:46:54,195 I can't remember your lines. - My line was... 842 00:46:54,228 --> 00:46:56,481 ♪ You two Scousers are always yapping 843 00:46:56,522 --> 00:46:58,945 ♪ I'm gonna show you some serious rapping 844 00:46:58,983 --> 00:47:01,532 I come from Jamaica, my names is John Barnes 845 00:47:01,569 --> 00:47:03,947 When I do my thing the crowd go bananas 846 00:47:04,572 --> 00:47:07,826 Oh, my word, that's unbelievable, it really is. 847 00:47:07,867 --> 00:47:09,835 I think they should stick to playing football. 848 00:47:09,869 --> 00:47:12,213 Terrible. What do you think, Kenny? 849 00:47:12,246 --> 00:47:13,873 Oh, yeah. 850 00:47:14,874 --> 00:47:17,464 We're thinking how can we replace Ian Rush? 851 00:47:17,465 --> 00:47:19,428 Rushie was going, he was leaving. 852 00:47:20,338 --> 00:47:21,715 We went out in the market 853 00:47:21,756 --> 00:47:25,226 and bought probably as many new players in one season 854 00:47:25,259 --> 00:47:27,110 as what Liverpool had done for a long time. 855 00:47:28,137 --> 00:47:30,686 We had made some changes and they paid off. 856 00:47:30,723 --> 00:47:32,200 This is Venison. 857 00:47:33,142 --> 00:47:34,610 And here's Barnes. 858 00:47:34,643 --> 00:47:36,316 And Aldridge this time. 2-0. 859 00:47:36,354 --> 00:47:38,197 I played for Watford, which is long ball. 860 00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:39,777 I never thought I'd be a Liverpool type player. 861 00:47:39,815 --> 00:47:41,783 So obviously Liverpool sees things in players 862 00:47:41,817 --> 00:47:43,537 that the players don't even know themselves. 863 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,325 McMahon! 864 00:47:45,363 --> 00:47:47,707 Oh, I say. What a belter. 865 00:47:49,330 --> 00:47:50,580 I expected some indoctrination 866 00:47:50,618 --> 00:47:52,586 on when you first come to find the “Liverpool way.” 867 00:47:52,620 --> 00:47:53,792 And I remember you saying 868 00:47:53,829 --> 00:47:55,627 'Well, there's an orange bib and there's a yellow bib. 869 00:47:55,664 --> 00:47:57,424 And just pass to someone in that orange bib.' 870 00:47:58,167 --> 00:47:59,214 Barnes. 871 00:47:59,251 --> 00:48:01,470 Oh, lovely back heel. McMahon. 872 00:48:01,504 --> 00:48:03,927 Aldridge, good challenge. Beardsley! 873 00:48:03,964 --> 00:48:07,130 Oh, that's a lovely goal. That's a lovely goal. 874 00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:09,770 They did have rules on the pitch. 875 00:48:09,804 --> 00:48:12,398 But within those rules... - The framework, yeah. 876 00:48:12,431 --> 00:48:14,399 You had tremendous freedom to play. 877 00:48:15,643 --> 00:48:17,361 He had a long time to clear that. 878 00:48:17,395 --> 00:48:19,272 He dwelt on it too long. Barnes... 879 00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:22,574 And Barnes again. Three. 880 00:48:23,943 --> 00:48:25,866 People talk about time to settle in 881 00:48:25,903 --> 00:48:27,325 and when you talk about time to settle in 882 00:48:27,363 --> 00:48:30,820 is it three games into the season? Is it 10 games into the season? 883 00:48:30,116 --> 00:48:31,914 I'm talking about the first week 884 00:48:31,951 --> 00:48:33,498 the first two weeks in pre-season training 885 00:48:33,536 --> 00:48:36,500 before we'd even played a game, just being with the lads 886 00:48:36,380 --> 00:48:37,460 just playing football with the lads 887 00:48:37,498 --> 00:48:39,796 the acceptance and, you know, the camaraderie. 888 00:48:39,834 --> 00:48:43,540 John was an ideal player for us to go down the touch lines. 889 00:48:43,870 --> 00:48:46,387 Talented, skilful, scored a goal, made a goal. 890 00:48:46,799 --> 00:48:49,678 He's got Beardsley going to his left but still Barnes! 891 00:48:49,718 --> 00:48:52,221 That's a fabulous individual goal! 892 00:48:52,972 --> 00:48:54,612 When I picked it up on that left-hand side 893 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,608 there was only one person I was looking for. 894 00:48:57,977 --> 00:49:01,277 It's just that one sliding into the left-hand side 895 00:49:01,313 --> 00:49:04,317 because you know that he's going to keep it for you. 896 00:49:06,861 --> 00:49:11,241 He could go past people for fun and it was a really, really exciting time. 897 00:49:11,282 --> 00:49:14,252 Barnes, took on Caesar, still Barnes. 898 00:49:14,285 --> 00:49:15,502 Brilliant. 899 00:49:15,536 --> 00:49:17,584 Houghton couldn't convert. McMahon... 900 00:49:17,621 --> 00:49:18,964 Three in the way 901 00:49:18,998 --> 00:49:22,127 They knitted so well together, the hunger and the desire to be successful 902 00:49:22,168 --> 00:49:23,841 was there for everybody to see. 903 00:49:24,170 --> 00:49:25,638 McMahon won that back 904 00:49:25,671 --> 00:49:29,517 Barnes, Beardsley and Aldridge, you know, they just seemed to gel. 905 00:49:29,550 --> 00:49:31,970 Oh, a goal for Aldridge! 906 00:49:31,886 --> 00:49:34,605 It was intuition. It was one-touch football. 907 00:49:34,638 --> 00:49:35,810 Beardsley. 908 00:49:37,308 --> 00:49:39,606 Oh, brilliantly done by Peter Beardsley! 909 00:49:42,396 --> 00:49:44,649 The quality was there for everybody to see. 910 00:49:45,608 --> 00:49:47,451 They never let go throughout the whole season. 911 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:50,871 Nottingham Forest were a good side at the time 912 00:49:50,905 --> 00:49:52,157 and one of the top three teams in the country. 913 00:49:52,198 --> 00:49:53,575 Houghton. Barnes. 914 00:49:53,616 --> 00:49:55,840 Houghton goes again. He's through. 915 00:49:56,327 --> 00:50:00,377 You talk about a 90-minute performance of not just quality 916 00:50:00,414 --> 00:50:02,540 but of players making the right decisions. 917 00:50:02,625 --> 00:50:04,502 Finds space and finds Aldridge. 918 00:50:06,300 --> 00:50:10,679 And that is another superb Liverpool goal. 919 00:50:10,716 --> 00:50:13,469 The performance the players put on was fantastic. 920 00:50:13,511 --> 00:50:14,683 Working it to Houghton. 921 00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:16,188 Aldridge. Gillespie! 922 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,610 They had great determination that they wanted to play well for 90 minutes. 923 00:50:21,620 --> 00:50:23,358 Barnes against Chettle. 924 00:50:26,565 --> 00:50:28,238 Look at Barnes here. 925 00:50:28,275 --> 00:50:29,527 They're waiting for the pull back. 926 00:50:29,568 --> 00:50:31,360 Beardsley! 927 00:50:31,700 --> 00:50:34,700 Oh! A glorious goal again. 928 00:50:34,740 --> 00:50:37,835 We played the game as if it was 0-0 when we were 5-0 up. 929 00:50:38,452 --> 00:50:41,877 And Beardsley and Spackman and Aldridge! It's 5! 930 00:50:44,830 --> 00:50:47,678 That's the finest exhibition I've seen in the whole time 931 00:50:47,711 --> 00:50:51,466 I've played and watched the game. It was absolutely tremendous. 932 00:50:51,507 --> 00:50:54,852 Corning from Shankly's favourite player, Sir Torn Finney. 933 00:50:54,885 --> 00:50:57,513 We all went back to the pub that night and we're going 934 00:50:57,555 --> 00:51:01,103 'Do you think we'll ever see a team performance as good as that?' 935 00:51:01,104 --> 00:51:03,353 Everybody kept asking about the secret. 936 00:51:04,103 --> 00:51:06,276 I'll tell you what I think the secret is. 937 00:51:06,313 --> 00:51:08,566 Everybody that's got a job to do, does it well. 938 00:51:09,149 --> 00:51:11,720 Hello, Paul! - Oh, Pedro! 939 00:51:11,235 --> 00:51:12,612 What are you eating? 940 00:51:12,653 --> 00:51:14,750 Eat with your mouth closed! 941 00:51:14,113 --> 00:51:15,990 Smile, you're on candid camera! 942 00:51:16,310 --> 00:51:17,310 Say hello! 943 00:51:18,576 --> 00:51:20,624 Hello, Bruce! 944 00:51:21,245 --> 00:51:23,430 Congratulations! 945 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,708 What for? - What for? 946 00:51:25,749 --> 00:51:28,930 He's not pregnant, he just put the... 947 00:51:28,127 --> 00:51:29,845 Did you think I was pregnant? 948 00:51:32,965 --> 00:51:34,638 So we're coming to see you soon. 949 00:51:34,675 --> 00:51:36,598 Have you looked your doors and changed your looks? 950 00:51:36,635 --> 00:51:39,309 They're coming straight from my house. 951 00:51:41,765 --> 00:51:45,190 Ooh, we might have to go because the food's gonna be here in three minutes. 952 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,813 Good! 953 00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:50,324 Bye! - Miss you! 954 00:51:50,357 --> 00:51:52,405 They didn't let rne in the picture. Bye! 955 00:51:52,443 --> 00:51:54,700 Bye, Paul, bye bye. 956 00:51:54,111 --> 00:51:56,340 Bye! 957 00:52:10,127 --> 00:52:12,346 I don't think he's ever let rne win at anything. 958 00:52:14,882 --> 00:52:17,601 Even from a young age I've always had to earn it. 959 00:52:18,260 --> 00:52:19,227 I'll take that. 960 00:52:19,228 --> 00:52:21,893 That's why maybe I am the way I am. 961 00:52:21,930 --> 00:52:23,648 It's in the water. 962 00:52:23,682 --> 00:52:26,590 In life you don't just get things given to you, do you? 963 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,313 No pressure. - No. 964 00:52:28,354 --> 00:52:29,822 You've got to earn it. 965 00:52:29,855 --> 00:52:31,949 So what's the point making it simple for him? 966 00:52:33,651 --> 00:52:35,278 Oh, there we go. 967 00:52:35,319 --> 00:52:37,572 I expect to win. I need to win. 968 00:52:39,865 --> 00:52:42,709 There's no times that you can lose that don't feel bad. 969 00:52:43,410 --> 00:52:45,333 Do you know you're not allowed to do that after you've started? 970 00:52:45,371 --> 00:52:46,714 I know that. 971 00:52:47,831 --> 00:52:50,755 That's probably something I got from him 972 00:52:50,793 --> 00:52:53,387 from even playing golf against him. 973 00:52:54,296 --> 00:52:55,816 You must be in the bushes, Paul. 974 00:52:56,548 --> 00:52:58,516 Nice to see him help me look for my ball. 975 00:52:59,900 --> 00:53:01,110 Playing now, there's just that ruthlessness 976 00:53:01,530 --> 00:53:03,101 to always be successful. 977 00:53:03,847 --> 00:53:06,100 I'm even more pleased that I think you've lost it. 978 00:53:09,144 --> 00:53:10,646 Where did it go? 979 00:53:12,439 --> 00:53:17,161 There was a company from Italy called Pantofola D'Oro 980 00:53:17,194 --> 00:53:18,912 and they used to make these boots 981 00:53:18,946 --> 00:53:22,200 but they were... you got them custom ordered if you... 982 00:53:22,241 --> 00:53:23,458 they put, like... 983 00:53:23,492 --> 00:53:25,870 'Which colour do you want this bit?' Which colour do you want this bit?' 984 00:53:25,911 --> 00:53:27,413 'What type of leather do you want this bit?' 985 00:53:27,454 --> 00:53:31,129 'What sole?' They were beautiful, like, amazing boots. 986 00:53:32,126 --> 00:53:34,595 So when I was playing they said, 'Oh, we wanna give you boots.' 987 00:53:34,628 --> 00:53:37,632 And there was no money but they'd give us boots. 988 00:53:37,673 --> 00:53:41,177 So I got these boots with a little bit of red on them. 989 00:53:42,344 --> 00:53:44,392 And I'm telling you it was like... 990 00:53:45,222 --> 00:53:47,645 a little bit... like, a little bit of red. 991 00:53:48,517 --> 00:53:52,738 And he said, 'You must be some player, you, with red on your boots. 992 00:53:52,771 --> 00:53:54,694 Why don't you bring attention to yourself 993 00:53:54,732 --> 00:53:56,951 by the way you play, not by the way you look?' 994 00:53:57,359 --> 00:53:59,703 Do you remember that? - No. 995 00:54:00,446 --> 00:54:02,949 One of my best friends growing up was a guy called Gavin Jones 996 00:54:02,990 --> 00:54:04,663 and his dad Eddie Jones. 997 00:54:04,700 --> 00:54:08,204 My dad said, 'Come on, Eddie, we'll take on the kids.' 998 00:54:08,996 --> 00:54:10,430 High. 999 00:54:10,789 --> 00:54:12,336 Gav hits a shot... 1000 00:54:12,374 --> 00:54:13,626 Go on. 1001 00:54:13,667 --> 00:54:15,761 It might still be you. 1002 00:54:16,503 --> 00:54:19,803 'Well done, Paul, well done, Gav.' 1003 00:54:21,425 --> 00:54:22,802 You are getting nothing! 1004 00:54:24,845 --> 00:54:27,849 Three or four holes in Gav hits a putt. 1005 00:54:28,849 --> 00:54:31,102 Maybe a 6 or 7-footer, goes in. 1006 00:54:32,269 --> 00:54:35,113 'Well done, son. Great putt.' 1007 00:54:35,147 --> 00:54:40,199 'Eddie, what do you mean “well done”?' 1008 00:54:40,235 --> 00:54:41,908 He said, 'We're one down.' 1009 00:54:41,945 --> 00:54:44,198 He said, 'Do you wanna win?!' 1010 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:45,912 He said, 'No more “well dones.”' 1011 00:54:46,700 --> 00:54:48,247 I don't think you can get through your life 1012 00:54:48,285 --> 00:54:49,332 without being competitive. 1013 00:54:50,204 --> 00:54:52,627 There's not been a hole halved Paul. - No. 1014 00:54:52,664 --> 00:54:55,383 You've won three. I've won three. 1015 00:54:59,922 --> 00:55:02,391 Will you give me that? - Aye, I'll give you that. 1016 00:55:02,424 --> 00:55:03,926 I got that? - I said I'll give you a half! 1017 00:55:03,967 --> 00:55:06,950 I wasn't even trying it! 1018 00:55:06,136 --> 00:55:07,433 I'll take that! 1019 00:55:07,471 --> 00:55:10,315 Anything that he was involved in, he wanted to win. 1020 00:55:10,349 --> 00:55:14,104 The grandkids have made him soft! I'll take it! 1021 00:55:14,144 --> 00:55:17,273 He enjoyed nothing more than winning. 1022 00:55:24,710 --> 00:55:27,496 It's weird how things have gone full circle. 1023 00:55:27,533 --> 00:55:30,286 There you go, in there. Don't touch anything. 1024 00:55:30,327 --> 00:55:32,580 I wanted to shout at him, 'Stay off the pitch!' 1025 00:55:32,621 --> 00:55:36,000 'Don't touch anything in the office!' Because that was my childhood. 1026 00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:38,343 I get to sit on this side now. 1027 00:55:38,585 --> 00:55:41,384 I know. - He's not changed a bit. 1028 00:55:42,339 --> 00:55:44,499 Mind you, it was only last week that picture was taken. 1029 00:55:45,717 --> 00:55:47,515 I don't even think I get a mention. 1030 00:55:48,303 --> 00:55:50,476 Do I get a mention in this one? - I don't know. 1031 00:55:50,514 --> 00:55:52,610 It's all... you should be able to... 1032 00:55:52,990 --> 00:55:53,726 You should be able to get through that book. 1033 00:55:53,767 --> 00:55:55,640 It's all pictures. 1034 00:55:55,102 --> 00:55:57,275 Here's another one. How many have you made? 1035 00:55:57,312 --> 00:55:59,781 Are you struggling for cash? Is that you as well? 1036 00:55:59,815 --> 00:56:01,442 Yeah! 1037 00:56:03,485 --> 00:56:05,908 When he was a young manager at my age 1038 00:56:05,946 --> 00:56:08,369 I would go with him 1039 00:56:08,407 --> 00:56:11,661 to training and maybe boot a ball off the wall or... 1040 00:56:11,702 --> 00:56:13,875 and I'm watching him booting balls. 1041 00:56:16,748 --> 00:56:20,594 For rne to have my dad here, there's a comfort that comes with it 1042 00:56:20,627 --> 00:56:24,131 and maybe one day he'll say something nice, I don't know. 1043 00:56:25,132 --> 00:56:26,805 I was lucky. 1044 00:56:26,842 --> 00:56:29,846 I started at one of the most successful clubs in the world 1045 00:56:29,887 --> 00:56:31,480 and met great people working there. 1046 00:56:31,513 --> 00:56:34,983 Paul's had to start a bit lower than that 1047 00:56:35,170 --> 00:56:36,690 but it's not been easy for him. 1048 00:56:36,727 --> 00:56:39,526 A lot of people have had a problem with him because of his name. 1049 00:56:41,273 --> 00:56:43,401 He was a brave boy to go down that road 1050 00:56:43,442 --> 00:56:45,365 and try and make a career out of it. 1051 00:56:47,696 --> 00:56:49,448 I was pretty nervous at the game. 1052 00:56:51,533 --> 00:56:53,410 It doesn't matter how old you get 1053 00:56:53,452 --> 00:56:55,750 or how much success you have 1054 00:56:55,787 --> 00:56:57,789 you always want the approval of your dad. 1055 00:56:59,958 --> 00:57:03,258 He's given his heart and soul to Liverpool. 1056 00:57:04,129 --> 00:57:06,803 His loyalty to the club is unquestioned. 1057 00:57:08,759 --> 00:57:11,763 Whatever he means to Liverpool 1058 00:57:11,803 --> 00:57:14,647 isn't close to what Liverpool means to him. 1059 00:57:15,515 --> 00:57:18,359 I couldn't believe it when I got this job 1060 00:57:18,393 --> 00:57:20,987 and Bruce Grobbelaar's the goalkeeper coach. 1061 00:57:21,980 --> 00:57:23,607 He was a team-mate of my dad's. 1062 00:57:24,232 --> 00:57:28,487 He was a hero of mine and he played for my dad. 1063 00:57:29,696 --> 00:57:35,544 I've got 96 on my back, I've got 96 on my training shoes. 1064 00:57:36,703 --> 00:57:41,334 It's in all of us that were a part of the Hillsborough tragedy. 1065 00:57:42,626 --> 00:57:47,600 Hillsborough is just not something we ever discuss. 1066 00:57:48,423 --> 00:57:51,677 I count myself lucky that we all came home. 1067 00:57:52,386 --> 00:57:58,640 I almost feel guilty about talking about it because we were the lucky ones. 1068 00:57:59,309 --> 00:58:02,358 96 will always be in all our lives. 1069 00:58:03,897 --> 00:58:08,619 Wherever you go in football, everybody knows about 96. 1070 00:58:10,570 --> 00:58:13,699 It's something that I've probably never really dealt with. 1071 00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:18,780 I've never spoken to my dad about it. 1072 00:58:45,220 --> 00:58:46,649 Hillsborough was a famous ground. 1073 00:58:48,150 --> 00:58:53,998 It had been used many times in the past for semi-finals. 1074 00:58:54,906 --> 00:58:59,878 We'd played Notts Forest there and we had a good result there 1075 00:58:59,911 --> 00:59:01,431 so we were looking forward to the game. 1076 00:59:13,717 --> 00:59:15,560 We just had a normal Friday. 1077 00:59:15,594 --> 00:59:19,349 Trained in the morning, had our lunch. 1078 00:59:20,570 --> 00:59:24,779 We just pottered over to prepare for the game the next day. 1079 00:59:25,937 --> 00:59:30,317 Got there on time for our dinner half six, seven o'clock at night. 1080 00:59:32,235 --> 00:59:34,329 Normal preparation, really. 1081 00:59:34,362 --> 00:59:36,330 Same as we did for most away games 1082 00:59:36,364 --> 00:59:37,364 if not all of them. 1083 00:59:53,965 --> 00:59:56,138 I just know that there was a lot of people 1084 00:59:56,176 --> 01:00:00,220 that went to that game, that never came home. 1085 01:01:18,258 --> 01:01:19,259 I don't want to go back. 1086 01:01:19,301 --> 01:01:21,190 I don't want those memories 1087 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:22,725 to come back to the forefront of my mind. 1088 01:01:22,762 --> 01:01:26,232 So people might say 'You're running away from it. ' 1089 01:01:26,266 --> 01:01:30,396 Well, if I am, I am, but at the end of the clay, it still won't get me back. 1090 01:01:32,630 --> 01:01:33,235 No. Not me. 1091 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:04,620 We saw the crowds start to move to the side 1092 01:02:04,950 --> 01:02:06,143 and we saw that people were coming over the fence. 1093 01:02:06,181 --> 01:02:08,479 We started to see that happening. 1094 01:02:08,516 --> 01:02:11,861 And I vividly remember Mum turning to the press box 1095 01:02:11,895 --> 01:02:15,240 that was right next to us and I remember her saying 1096 01:02:15,273 --> 01:02:19,244 'My God, this isn't trouble. This is something really terrible.' 1097 01:02:32,666 --> 01:02:35,886 I saw Bruce start getting agitated in the goal 1098 01:02:35,919 --> 01:02:37,959 and then there were people coming over the barriers. 1099 01:02:38,964 --> 01:02:42,590 We're kind of in seats but watching what's going on. 1100 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,517 And it was... watching it all unfold was... 1101 01:02:45,553 --> 01:02:47,806 you didn't really understand the magnitude of it. 1102 01:03:03,571 --> 01:03:06,575 There are fans on the pitch here in the six-yard area. 1103 01:03:06,616 --> 01:03:08,710 The referee's going to have to stop the game. 1104 01:03:08,743 --> 01:03:10,586 There's an overflow behind the goal... 1105 01:03:16,100 --> 01:03:20,970 I turned around, I ran towards the referee 1106 01:03:20,130 --> 01:03:22,508 and I saw the policeman coming across the field 1107 01:03:22,549 --> 01:03:24,551 and that's when they called the game off. 1108 01:04:00,128 --> 01:04:02,381 There was people helping other people 1109 01:04:02,464 --> 01:04:05,299 who unfortunately had been injured 1110 01:04:05,300 --> 01:04:06,597 or even worse than that. 1111 01:04:08,887 --> 01:04:10,981 At ground level we couldn't see much 1112 01:04:11,140 --> 01:04:13,174 because of the number of bodies that were on the pitch. 1113 01:04:14,684 --> 01:04:15,856 I have no way of knowing 1114 01:04:15,894 --> 01:04:18,738 how many casualties we have here, but they are considerable. 1115 01:04:21,858 --> 01:04:25,328 There are ambulances on the arena. 1116 01:04:28,310 --> 01:04:32,411 First aid treatment is being applied to people on the ground as I speak. 1117 01:04:42,450 --> 01:04:45,490 The fans were tremendously helpful. 1118 01:04:46,633 --> 01:04:48,476 I think they were the first to react. 1119 01:04:49,940 --> 01:04:50,437 Advertising hoardings 1120 01:04:50,470 --> 01:04:52,347 are being used as emergency stretchers. 1121 01:04:52,389 --> 01:04:55,859 And there are clearly a number of fans seriously injured. 1122 01:05:01,481 --> 01:05:04,906 There was people on the pitch doing their level best 1123 01:05:04,943 --> 01:05:07,287 to try and help someone who was in need of help. 1124 01:05:08,947 --> 01:05:13,327 We had nae much of an idea how bad it actually was. 1125 01:05:14,494 --> 01:05:18,544 Possibly the biggest tragedy ever seen 1126 01:05:18,581 --> 01:05:20,834 on an English football ground. 1127 01:05:25,338 --> 01:05:28,467 There is terrible emotional scenes going on 1128 01:05:28,508 --> 01:05:32,354 because people are checking to see if their nearest and dearest are in fact safe. 1129 01:05:37,100 --> 01:05:38,602 We lost Paul. 1130 01:05:40,103 --> 01:05:43,152 Paul always went with his friends. 1131 01:05:45,525 --> 01:05:48,779 At that minute, all I worried about was my son. 1132 01:05:50,947 --> 01:05:54,201 Paul had to enter through the Leppings Lane end 1133 01:05:54,242 --> 01:05:56,745 to walk round to go to the main stand. 1134 01:05:58,955 --> 01:06:04,462 Your concern obviously was for him to start with to see if he was alright. 1135 01:06:08,470 --> 01:06:10,721 I would think although he was getting pulled by everyone 1136 01:06:10,758 --> 01:06:14,888 to say and do things, his number one would be looking for Paul. 1137 01:06:25,315 --> 01:06:27,409 They asked us to go and say a few words 1138 01:06:27,442 --> 01:06:30,161 over the tannoy to the supporters. 1139 01:06:37,911 --> 01:06:40,380 I remember then hearing my dad's voice 1140 01:06:40,413 --> 01:06:42,586 coming over the speaker system 1141 01:06:44,125 --> 01:06:48,426 And it was almost like... I only wanted my dad then. 1142 01:06:59,570 --> 01:07:01,526 And then he was there... 1143 01:07:01,559 --> 01:07:03,232 like, just there. 1144 01:07:24,582 --> 01:07:27,802 I remember the fans going to get the newspaper 1145 01:07:27,835 --> 01:07:31,900 and ripping it off the newspaper stands and burning it. 1146 01:07:31,470 --> 01:07:32,344 Erm... 1147 01:07:33,132 --> 01:07:36,636 Then I got a phone call from Kelvin Mackenzie. 1148 01:07:39,550 --> 01:07:41,649 And he said, 'We made a mess of this. ' 1149 01:07:43,351 --> 01:07:44,694 I said, 'I think so.' 1150 01:07:45,186 --> 01:07:49,898 He says, 'Can we do anything to help?' 1151 01:07:49,899 --> 01:07:53,153 I said, 'Well, I don't know if it will help 1152 01:07:53,194 --> 01:07:57,870 but I would suggest you start by putting a headline "THE TRUTH" 1153 01:07:57,907 --> 01:08:01,662 and just put it in tomorrow's paper saying "WE LIED".' 1154 01:08:02,453 --> 01:08:05,172 He says, 'I cannae do that.' I said, 'I cannae help you.' 1155 01:08:08,876 --> 01:08:12,631 I dread to think what it would have been like in the homes 1156 01:08:12,672 --> 01:08:15,221 of some of the people who lost someone. 1157 01:08:16,801 --> 01:08:19,850 You speak about the family values. 1158 01:08:21,550 --> 01:08:25,936 You speak about helping people less fortunate than yourself 1159 01:08:25,977 --> 01:08:28,480 or helping people when they need a bit of help. 1160 01:08:29,397 --> 01:08:30,899 That's all we did. 1161 01:08:30,940 --> 01:08:33,318 We only did what somebody else would have done for us 1162 01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:34,781 and what... 1163 01:08:34,819 --> 01:08:37,914 They were football fans, they went to support the football club. 1164 01:08:37,947 --> 01:08:41,668 Now it was the football club's turn to support their families. 1165 01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:50,218 What he and Marina must have gone through 1166 01:08:50,251 --> 01:08:52,345 of going to so many funerals 1167 01:08:53,171 --> 01:08:57,597 the pain of what he'd witnessed, what he'd been through 1168 01:08:57,634 --> 01:09:00,308 in the light also of Heysel 1169 01:09:00,345 --> 01:09:04,816 to now be the primary spokesperson 1170 01:09:04,849 --> 01:09:08,399 for a club, all the weight fell on him. 1171 01:09:10,355 --> 01:09:12,357 Going to the funerals and hearing these stories 1172 01:09:12,398 --> 01:09:15,322 about these people whose lives had ended 1173 01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:19,456 these kids who had lost parents, parents who had lost children. 1174 01:09:19,489 --> 01:09:24,495 He never dealt with absorbing any of that information 1175 01:09:24,535 --> 01:09:30,383 because he felt that his need was so much lower down than everyone else's. 1176 01:09:42,110 --> 01:09:44,639 On the Monday we went back to Sheffield. 1177 01:09:44,681 --> 01:09:47,104 We went to the hospital to see how people are 1178 01:09:47,105 --> 01:09:51,526 and maybe even hopefully it helped them a little bit. 1179 01:09:51,562 --> 01:09:53,109 The people that we could help. 1180 01:09:54,649 --> 01:09:58,825 There was, urn, a woman. 1181 01:09:59,696 --> 01:10:04,702 Her 14-year-old son, um, was on a life support machine 1182 01:10:04,742 --> 01:10:08,497 They wanted to turn it off but she wanted us to get there 1183 01:10:08,538 --> 01:10:10,916 to say goodbye to him. Oh. 1184 01:10:10,957 --> 01:10:15,383 Well, is there anything in life that prepares you for that? 1185 01:10:21,843 --> 01:10:24,312 When something happens 1186 01:10:24,345 --> 01:10:26,894 and it's something that you're involved in 1187 01:10:26,931 --> 01:10:29,605 it's fantastic the way people get together. 1188 01:10:29,642 --> 01:10:34,193 And as we said before, the city of Liverpool can be totally proud 1189 01:10:34,230 --> 01:10:37,734 of what they did in the aftermath of Hillsborough as well. 1190 01:10:38,568 --> 01:10:43,739 It is a great tribute to the whole of this city 1191 01:10:43,740 --> 01:10:48,792 to its commitment to the great sport of football 1192 01:10:48,828 --> 01:10:54,130 but most of all of love amongst good friends. 1193 01:10:56,294 --> 01:11:00,470 So they decided to open up Anfield to the fans 1194 01:11:00,506 --> 01:11:05,683 which was an unbelievable idea 1195 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,940 and hugely appreciated by the fans. 1196 01:11:08,973 --> 01:11:10,816 It gave them a focal point. 1197 01:11:14,228 --> 01:11:16,196 They had nowhere to go. They just... 1198 01:11:16,230 --> 01:11:20,576 So they came to Liverpool because they had nowhere else to go. 1199 01:11:21,486 --> 01:11:23,534 I remember the first day I went in there 1200 01:11:23,571 --> 01:11:25,790 and there was a guy that came up to rne and he said 1201 01:11:25,823 --> 01:11:29,418 'Al, he was 17. 1202 01:11:29,452 --> 01:11:32,579 He was 17. And he was taken away from rne.' 1203 01:11:32,580 --> 01:11:38,303 And so I'm thinking to myself, I've got a son that was 8 at the time. 1204 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:44,927 You just imagine that your son's 17 and what life would be like. 1205 01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:59,198 I went to the Kop with Kelly and Paul, I think, on the last day 1206 01:12:00,233 --> 01:12:02,861 before everything was moved away. 1207 01:12:03,986 --> 01:12:05,988 That's the only time I've been in the Kop. 1208 01:12:07,573 --> 01:12:10,668 We wanted to go in. It felt like the right thing to do. 1209 01:12:10,701 --> 01:12:12,248 It felt like... 1210 01:12:12,286 --> 01:12:16,291 for no real reason that's easy to explain 1211 01:12:16,332 --> 01:12:18,840 we wanted to go in. 1212 01:12:20,461 --> 01:12:25,934 It was unbelievable the messages of support on the Kop 1213 01:12:25,967 --> 01:12:29,597 like, just little messages where somebody... and it was almost like... 1214 01:12:29,637 --> 01:12:31,605 I know it was a standing area 1215 01:12:31,639 --> 01:12:35,109 but it was almost as if it was, 'Well, that's your space.' 1216 01:12:35,977 --> 01:12:38,981 Right, without a number or without any recognition on it 1217 01:12:39,210 --> 01:12:40,694 other than just a normal thing. 1218 01:12:40,731 --> 01:12:44,310 'He's here week in, week out'; 'he always stands there'; 1219 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,720 'The boy next to him played football, he left a pair of boots. ' 1220 01:12:47,113 --> 01:12:50,788 'He had an orange, he always had an orange at half time, he left an orange.' 1221 01:12:50,825 --> 01:12:53,328 It was unbelievable. 1222 01:12:54,704 --> 01:12:56,798 The messages from the punters 1223 01:12:56,831 --> 01:12:59,459 to the people who stood around about and in and around them. 1224 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,490 The minute I walked on the Kop and I saw the tribute on the pitch 1225 01:13:06,900 --> 01:13:07,933 and I wanted to take... 1226 01:13:07,967 --> 01:13:10,971 like, I had a little Celtic teddy bear and a Liverpool teddy bear 1227 01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:14,642 and I wanted to... I wanted to leave that at Anfield. 1228 01:13:14,682 --> 01:13:17,686 And I'd had it from when I was younger. 1229 01:13:20,688 --> 01:13:26,695 I think taking us on to the Kop and seeing the scarves tied there 1230 01:13:26,736 --> 01:13:29,159 and seeing messages written on the barriers 1231 01:13:29,196 --> 01:13:32,621 to people who were no longer there 1232 01:13:32,658 --> 01:13:34,956 and would never stand there again from their friends 1233 01:13:34,994 --> 01:13:36,587 and from their families 1234 01:13:36,621 --> 01:13:39,420 I think it sunk in for Dad as well. 1235 01:13:39,457 --> 01:13:42,131 And I think it became... 1236 01:13:42,168 --> 01:13:45,547 you know, more even than standing on the Kop 1237 01:13:45,588 --> 01:13:48,137 and looking out over that carpet of flowers 1238 01:13:48,174 --> 01:13:51,178 it was the small details of it. 1239 01:13:51,218 --> 01:13:56,975 It was seeing people's names and realizing that this was about individuals. 1240 01:13:58,851 --> 01:14:02,651 I went to where I stood on the Kop with my Dad and my sister 1241 01:14:02,688 --> 01:14:07,990 just looking and just broke down and cried in my Dad's arms. 1242 01:14:08,270 --> 01:14:12,498 It was the moment maybe that I needed to kind of release everything I'd seen 1243 01:14:12,531 --> 01:14:14,454 as I didn't know how to deal with it as a child. 1244 01:14:15,660 --> 01:14:17,287 No, they wanted to go. 1245 01:14:18,829 --> 01:14:20,172 Er... 1246 01:14:21,666 --> 01:14:23,293 I wanted to take them. 1247 01:14:28,506 --> 01:14:29,849 So... 1248 01:14:30,758 --> 01:14:31,725 It was... 1249 01:14:31,759 --> 01:14:34,228 for them it was really sad, for us it was sad 1250 01:14:34,229 --> 01:14:36,723 but it... 1251 01:14:37,473 --> 01:14:39,100 it's just something that... 1252 01:14:40,643 --> 01:14:42,361 er, it had to be done. 1253 01:14:57,284 --> 01:14:59,582 The people who were gonna decide 1254 01:15:00,371 --> 01:15:03,295 if we were going back to play 1255 01:15:03,332 --> 01:15:05,426 first and foremost were the families. 1256 01:15:07,169 --> 01:15:11,925 You could really sense the desire of the players 1257 01:15:11,966 --> 01:15:13,718 to go and get a result. 1258 01:15:14,301 --> 01:15:16,269 CROWD ROARS 1259 01:15:34,321 --> 01:15:35,948 - Dad? - OK. 1260 01:15:35,990 --> 01:15:37,663 Dad? - OK. 1261 01:15:39,744 --> 01:15:41,212 Hi! 1262 01:15:44,498 --> 01:15:46,421 There was a lot going on that no one knew about 1263 01:15:46,459 --> 01:15:48,211 and he wouldn't tell anyone. 1264 01:15:48,335 --> 01:15:50,383 But he was falling apart after Hillsborough. 1265 01:15:57,303 --> 01:16:01,149 By the time it gets to Everton in the Cup and... 1266 01:16:03,684 --> 01:16:05,732 I knew there was something building up. 1267 01:16:07,980 --> 01:16:10,358 He was terrible to live with, really horrible. 1268 01:16:10,399 --> 01:16:12,276 And with the children he was snappy 1269 01:16:12,318 --> 01:16:14,446 so I would manage to keep them out the way. 1270 01:16:15,290 --> 01:16:16,997 Lynsey, don't tear it off! 1271 01:16:24,121 --> 01:16:26,715 He wasn't sleeping, he was taking sleeping pills. 1272 01:16:26,749 --> 01:16:28,460 He couldn't get to sleep at night. 1273 01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:30,507 He had a rash all over his body. 1274 01:16:30,544 --> 01:16:32,171 And he doesn't tell people this. 1275 01:16:32,213 --> 01:16:35,934 You know, he waits until it all comes to a head. 1276 01:16:41,130 --> 01:16:46,650 I was gonna make a change during the game defensively. 1277 01:16:46,435 --> 01:16:47,732 Cottee! 1278 01:16:49,897 --> 01:16:51,194 3-3! 1279 01:16:53,359 --> 01:16:56,283 And Ronnie and Roy went, 'I'm not so sure.' 1280 01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:57,867 And I Went 'OK, OK.' 1281 01:17:01,242 --> 01:17:02,585 Barnes! 1282 01:17:02,618 --> 01:17:05,713 He looks for goal and finds it! 1283 01:17:05,746 --> 01:17:08,215 And when he realised he couldn't make a decision 1284 01:17:08,249 --> 01:17:11,879 he didn't feel like he was the manager Liverpool deserved. 1285 01:17:12,795 --> 01:17:14,217 Tony Cottee! 1286 01:17:15,506 --> 01:17:17,554 Well, I can't believe this, Martin. 1287 01:17:17,591 --> 01:17:19,259 When all Kenny Dalglish 1288 01:17:19,260 --> 01:17:22,389 would have wanted was his team to defend properly 1289 01:17:22,429 --> 01:17:24,523 and they go and commit something like this. 1290 01:17:25,224 --> 01:17:27,272 It's been quite magnificent. 1291 01:17:27,309 --> 01:17:30,620 It's been a night to shake the soul really. 1292 01:17:30,729 --> 01:17:33,323 If I cannae make decisions 1293 01:17:36,402 --> 01:17:39,952 I said to myself, 'I've got to go. ' 1294 01:17:47,288 --> 01:17:51,964 I regret to announce that Kenny Dalglish told the board yesterday 1295 01:17:52,100 --> 01:17:53,628 of his wish to retire as team manager. 1296 01:17:56,505 --> 01:17:58,348 I don't think it ever got easier for Kenny. 1297 01:17:58,349 --> 01:17:59,933 I think it got worse. 1298 01:18:02,261 --> 01:18:05,105 He would never, ever admit that Hillsborough 1299 01:18:05,139 --> 01:18:07,733 had anything to do with anything because that's the way he is. 1300 01:18:10,144 --> 01:18:13,273 Only Kenny can tell us 1301 01:18:13,314 --> 01:18:15,612 what that journey was really like. 1302 01:18:17,568 --> 01:18:20,287 What I do know is that the stress 1303 01:18:20,321 --> 01:18:23,450 and strain of that must have been at times intolerable. 1304 01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:37,797 In the aftermath of Hillsborough 1305 01:18:37,838 --> 01:18:41,763 it has taken the families two decades 1306 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,677 to set the record straight. 1307 01:18:46,550 --> 01:18:48,274 Marina and Kenny Dalglish 1308 01:18:48,307 --> 01:18:53,290 were real humanitarians in the face of dreadful adversity. 1309 01:18:54,210 --> 01:18:57,571 People turning up literally on their doorstep. 1310 01:18:58,984 --> 01:19:03,581 And that's why they are so respected 1311 01:19:05,991 --> 01:19:07,493 in our city. 1312 01:19:08,494 --> 01:19:10,963 They know what they sacrificed and what they gave. 1313 01:19:12,623 --> 01:19:17,129 Today we take the unprecedented step of granting 1314 01:19:17,169 --> 01:19:22,391 the freedom of the city posthumously to the 96 individuals. 1315 01:19:27,388 --> 01:19:32,269 Sisters Sarah Louise Hicks and Victoria Jane Hicks. 1316 01:19:33,102 --> 01:19:37,733 Kenny had been a part of our lives before I actually met him 1317 01:19:37,773 --> 01:19:41,573 on that day back in April 1989. 1318 01:19:42,270 --> 01:19:45,531 Kenneth Mathieson Dalglish. 1319 01:19:46,365 --> 01:19:49,869 Kenny has been a part of my journey 1320 01:19:49,910 --> 01:19:52,584 from the beginning of losing both my daughters. 1321 01:19:53,580 --> 01:19:55,378 Marina Dalglish. 1322 01:19:56,417 --> 01:20:00,920 Sarah had had Kenny Dalglish albums every Christmas 1323 01:20:00,129 --> 01:20:02,678 for years when she was little. 1324 01:20:08,220 --> 01:20:10,723 He's the King of Anfield, really. 1325 01:20:11,724 --> 01:20:13,317 But I don't look at him like that. 1326 01:20:13,350 --> 01:20:16,690 I just look at him as a dear man. 1327 01:20:18,220 --> 01:20:19,649 And we've adopted Kenny now. 1328 01:20:19,690 --> 01:20:21,363 You know, he's not going back to Glasgow. 1329 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:22,947 We won't let him. 1330 01:20:31,368 --> 01:20:33,291 "You'll Never Walk Alone" 1331 01:20:33,329 --> 01:20:38,301 When you walk through a storm 1332 01:20:38,334 --> 01:20:43,386 ♪ Hold your head up high 1333 01:20:43,422 --> 01:20:50,101 And don't be afraid of the dark 1334 01:20:51,805 --> 01:20:56,686 At the end of a storm 1335 01:20:58,854 --> 01:21:02,529 ♪ There's a golden sky 1336 01:21:04,234 --> 01:21:09,350 ♪ And the sweet silver song 1337 01:21:10,866 --> 01:21:13,540 Of the lark 1338 01:21:17,414 --> 01:21:22,261 Walk on through the wind 1339 01:21:23,837 --> 01:21:28,593 ♪ Walk on through the rain 1340 01:21:29,885 --> 01:21:33,590 ♪ Though your dreams 1341 01:21:33,138 --> 01:21:38,611 Be tossed and blown 1342 01:21:43,190 --> 01:21:45,238 Walk on 1343 01:21:46,260 --> 01:21:48,825 Walk on 1344 01:21:49,405 --> 01:21:54,206 With hope in your heart 1345 01:21:55,661 --> 01:22:02,545 ♪ And you'll never walk alone 1346 01:22:06,839 --> 01:22:14,839 You'll never walk alone 1347 01:22:27,943 --> 01:22:31,993 With hope in your heart 1348 01:22:33,866 --> 01:22:40,875 ♪ And you'll never walk alone 1349 01:22:45,836 --> 01:22:53,836 You'll never walk alone 1350 01:23:09,260 --> 01:23:10,699 Dalglish! 1351 01:23:54,613 --> 01:23:56,581 Show us what you do on the slopes, Dad! 1352 01:24:06,833 --> 01:24:08,551 Someone said to me when I was really little 1353 01:24:08,585 --> 01:24:10,212 'What does your Dad do?' 1354 01:24:13,298 --> 01:24:17,980 I mean, he stands in a little box on a Saturday and he points and shouts.' 1355 01:24:17,427 --> 01:24:19,304 Which to be fair is a fair assessment. 1356 01:24:48,709 --> 01:24:50,962 Two fingers, Dad! Woo! 1357 01:25:14,109 --> 01:25:16,111 Speak into the camera. 1358 01:25:16,153 --> 01:25:17,655 Hello. 1359 01:25:17,696 --> 01:25:21,166 Say, 'Hello, Father Christmas.' - Hello, Father Christmas! 1360 01:25:30,830 --> 01:25:31,551 Are you happy with your pressies, troops? 1361 01:25:31,585 --> 01:25:33,758 Yeah. - Yeah. 1362 01:25:33,795 --> 01:25:35,297 What's your favourite one, Lyns? 1363 01:25:35,339 --> 01:25:36,886 Baby, Dad. 1364 01:25:51,980 --> 01:25:53,402 Look at that. 1365 01:25:57,361 --> 01:25:59,121 Say we're going to the nightclub, Mum 1366 01:25:59,154 --> 01:26:00,576 and then say goodbye. 1367 01:26:00,614 --> 01:26:02,457 Goodnight! You can't see anymore! 106182

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