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Emotions, especially with exes,
bring out the absolute worst in people.
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I've seen instances where exes...
kill each other.
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But as far as this elaborate plot,
it was just gut-wrenching.
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Horrible. Plain and simple.
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In 2006, I was a financial advisor
with Morgan Stanley
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and opening a restaurant at the same time.
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I was always busy.
There was always something I was doing,
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and it... it seems like
that's all I knew how to do.
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Work, work, work.
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My family are all from Guyana,
which is in South America.
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I came to the US
when I was about 11 years old.
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It was my parents, my brother, my sister.
I'm the oldest of three.
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When I was growing up in Long Island,
we basically grew up in the same house,
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and we lived there for years until
I purchased the house from my parents.
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In my mind, that house,
it was always going to be mine,
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I guess, or in the family type of thing.
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I saw my dad do so much.
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My dad worked for Steinway piano company,
and he also had his own business.
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He had a taxi company.
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So in my mind,
I always wanted to have my own business.
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After school, I first worked
for a broker on Wall Street.
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And I learned fast and moved up fast.
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I used to work ridiculous hours.
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After a couple of years
that I was working there,
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I thought I had enough time to try to have
my own restaurant, both simultaneously.
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Got all my savings
and everything together.
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Finally decided on a Golden Krust.
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Golden Krust is a franchise
that serves Jamaican cuisine.
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Growing up, I ate that food a lot.
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I knew about that cuisine
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and even had experience
in cooking the food and everything.
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I was very busy.
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I worked x amount of hours
at Morgan Stanley.
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When I was off from there,
I'm at the restaurant
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trying to get everything up and running,
permits and whatnot.
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And taking care of Chiara
at the same time.
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I have the most amazing daughter.
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Chiara's sweet, honest.
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She's just the best thing
that ever happened to me.
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It amazed me how much
she knows or she sensed,
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and she's always been like that.
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It was a lot of work, but at the time,
I just wanted to just do so much.
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So I wasn't seeing anyone for quite a bit
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because I've been adamant
that I was never going to get married.
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That's not something that
I want to sacrifice, my freedom.
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So that conversation
I dodged at all times.
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I was supposed to open
in the beginning of March of 2006.
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And my dad...
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died.
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He actually committed suicide.
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So it was tough.
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After that happened, I, um...
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I pushed back the opening
of the restaurant
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till after all the prayers
and everything was done
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and gave myself enough time.
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So it was opened
in the very last week of March.
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A few months after the restaurant opened
is when I met Jerry.
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He came by the restaurant.
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He purchased food
and struck up a conversation with me.
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He was wearing a suit and he had
a holster, and he had a gun on the side.
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He told me he was a cop and a detective
for the Brooklyn DA's office,
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and he did consulting work,
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which... which was conveniently
right down the street
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from where my restaurant is.
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So in the day, he could pop by anytime.
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He pointed out that
my cameras were positioned wrong.
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And he volunteered
to stop by during the week
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to look at my camera system,
which I thought was amazing. You know?
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That's... that's what good people do.
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He showed up
just to do random things for me.
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If it's to just take my car
to the car wash,
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little things like that
to make my life on a daily basis easier.
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And then, I guess we became friends.
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We were going out,
maybe a movie here or there
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or whatever free time that I had,
which I had not much of.
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I was seeing a lot more of him.
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By somewhere in 2007,
we were... we were dating. Yeah.
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Seemona is my dad's sister.
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I was close to Auntie Seemona.
I worked at her restaurant with her.
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The family's overall impression of Jerry,
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we all kind of looked up to him in a sense
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because, you know, he was this guy
that worked for the NYPD.
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{\an8}He showed us his gun before.
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{\an8}He used to always have it with him.
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{\an8}And then, like,
we always thought he was so cool.
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Just a cool guy. He was just a cool guy.
The way he talks, walks.
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And we liked him.
And he cared for Seemona.
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{\an8}Jerry used to be in the restaurant,
doing things and whatever.
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{\an8}So to tell you the truth,
I was so happy for her.
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{\an8}I'd say, "You know, at least
you have somebody to help around."
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He just fit himself right there.
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As far as my family goes,
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I think they were worried about me,
as me being alone and for my safety.
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I was out and about late at night,
it's a cash business,
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and they saw him as this cop,
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that he was the one
to protect me in a way.
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I didn't really introduce
Chiara to him at all.
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Because he was around the restaurant.
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Jerry was there so much,
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and Chiara never really questioned
anything about him.
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Although I sensed that
she didn't care for him very much.
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Jerry's mother was living with him.
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So Jerry started
to spend a lot of time at my house.
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First, it would start as get me home safe,
but then he would stay over.
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Timing was convenient as well.
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I think he was probably the only person,
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you know, I... I could talk to about my dad
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because my dad passed the way he passed.
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It's not easy...
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to have that conversation with family.
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I knew
I was angry all the time.
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Because I didn't understand
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that... that my dad would do
something like that.
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And there weren't anybody to talk to
except for him.
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It was one of the reasons
why we became so close.
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While I was working at the restaurant,
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this phone call came in...
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...just random middle of the day.
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I had a, like, a little office
in the basement at the restaurant.
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I took the call.
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This girl, she asked me
if I'm such and such,
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and I said, "Yes,"
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and she said, "Well, I have something
to tell you. Are you sitting down?"
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And I was like, "Okay."
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She said, "You're not going to like
what I'm going to tell you."
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"Jerry's been lying to you."
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She said that she was married to him,
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and she had two kids.
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I'm so confused. I'm like, "Oh my God."
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I didn't know what to do.
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I did ask her about
what he did for a living,
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and she said, "Oh well, let me guess."
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"Is he telling you
that he's a detective or he's a cop?"
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And I'm like, "Yes, both.
So which one is he?"
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And she says, "None."
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"If you guys are married,
where do you live and where does he live?"
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"Because he's spent a lot of time
at my house,
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even when I'm not there sometimes."
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And she said, "I live in Brooklyn."
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"He does live mostly
at his mother's house."
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So quite an earful I got from her
to confirm that he was definitely lying.
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What's going on in my mind, at that time,
is that, "How are you so stupid?"
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I should have known.
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When I did actually, finally calm down,
I went back upstairs to the restaurant.
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"I got a phone call from your wife."
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Jerry said,
"Oh, don't believe a thing she says."
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And I'm like,
"Okay, is she or is she not your wife?"
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"Like, it's that simple."
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"Oh, well, no, but yes."
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And then he says
that they were still married
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because she had to get a green card.
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And I said, "Okay, fine.
People need to get their green card."
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"You have to stay married a certain time."
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"I get it, but you have two children
with this woman."
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Even when I confronted him about
how I knew that he's really not a cop
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and he's really not a detective,
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he tried to spin it to make it seem
like it's not really what it is.
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I made it clear to him
that it's... it's over between us,
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and I don't have any hard feelings.
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I thought that was it.
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I have to ask, why do you
want to be anonymous today?
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{\an8}Well, basically, you know,
I don't want no one to think
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{\an8}I... I was associated
with... with this... this lowlife Jerry,
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but I... I feel that, you know, everyone has
a right to know another part of the story,
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and I just wanted to say my part.
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When I first met Jerry,
we both enjoyed going out, having drinks,
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of course girls, you know.
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And we started hanging out,
becoming friends.
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Jerry was married with two kids.
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But, you know,
on the side, he would go out.
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He had this security company.
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So he provides services
to these nightclubs, these bars.
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He would make believe
he was a ladies' man.
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He'd have all these girls here and there.
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I never asked questions, you know.
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He was a person that we'd go out,
have drinks, so I don't really care.
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The first time I met Seemona,
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she opened a new restaurant
at the time, a Golden Krust.
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Seemona was
on a different level than Jerry.
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She's a successful woman.
She has her own restaurant.
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So I guess, you know,
I think that's what drew him to her.
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Sometimes he would be all,
"Yeah, I'm gonna see my wife,"
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but then other times,
he would go hang out with Seemona.
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I don't even know why Seemona
would have wasted time
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with someone like Jerry.
Like, seriously, it's Jerry.
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He would tell me
he's an undercover detective
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with the NYPD for years.
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Jerry would walk around
with a badge in his wallet,
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but you would never see the badge.
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You would just see the imprint
of the badge through his wallet.
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On one particular occasion,
I had an expired sticker on my plate.
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So we're driving,
and the cops pulled me over.
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While I was talking to the cop, Jerry was
talking to the cop on the passenger side,
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and he showed his wallet
with the shield hidden.
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And the both cop's like,
"Okay, have a good day,"
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without going further into asking me
for a driver's license or anything.
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Every time he would see cops,
he would talk to them like he know 'em.
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Jerry knew everybody.
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I... I've heard him
on the phone multiple times
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talking to other people
at the DA's office in Brooklyn.
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Other people referred to him as a cop,
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or he was paid
to be an informant or something.
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He did definitely know
some people here or there.
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However he's connected to them,
that part I don't know.
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I had a fallout with Jerry
'cause I couldn't really trust him.
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He'd go behind my back
and make me look bad in front of people.
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Oh, he was a sketchy character.
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After so many months, I told Jerry
that I needed him to return the keys.
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It was a Sunday
around nine o'clock in the morning.
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Nobody was in the house.
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Jerry shows up at my back door,
asking to talk to me.
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I told him through the door,
I didn't open the door,
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no, I didn't want to talk to him.
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I'm tired. I have a headache.
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But he obviously do not know
how to take no for an answer.
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He agreed that
he was gonna give me the keys,
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and I won't have any trouble with him.
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And I'm like, "All right, that's good."
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"I'm glad that, you know,
we don't have to fight over this."
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So I opened the door.
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As I turned around,
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he pushed me face down.
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I heard the damn duct tape.
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I heard it.
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Now I'm angry,
and I'm cursing, really angry.
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So I'm getting loud,
and he just put a piece on my mouth.
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Then he's trying to plead
that we could still get back together,
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you could take all the time you need.
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And I saw Jerry's gun is there.
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At one point, he was crying.
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He was saying
that he was gonna use the gun on himself.
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And in my mind, I'm thinking,
"Is he gonna commit suicide in my house?"
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"Is he gonna shoot me
and then do something to himself?"
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And then he picked me up and, um...
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pulled me down the stairs...
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through the basement door,
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pushed me down on the floor.
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I was face down.
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And that's when
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the rape happened.
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After the rape,
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instead of me sitting there crying,
he sat there crying
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and begged me
not to say anything or report it.
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He got up and left,
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and I ran upstairs and I locked the door.
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And I ran to the front window
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to make sure
that I actually see him driving off.
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I grab the phone. I call the cops.
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After I made the 911 call,
the police showed up.
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They took me to the hospital right away.
251
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There was a rape kit done there.
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When I found out,
I was very shocked.
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That's, like, one of the worst things
that could happen to a woman
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and then in the way it happened.
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He even resorted to using a gun,
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a gun that we were all impressed
that he had.
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Sick.
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Jerry was arrested.
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Got put on 150,000-dollar bail,
and his mother paid his bail.
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And he was released.
261
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When I was assigned
the case against Jerry Ramrattan
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I was working at the
Queens District Attorney's office.
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{\an8}The case came into my office
in March of 2009,
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and it came in as a forcible rape case.
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I brought Seemona Sumasar,
the complainant,
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into my office to meet with her.
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She was highly composed
in her conversation with me.
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She was able to compellingly, uh, retell
the details of what had happened to her.
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All the evidence that we had at that point
seemed to support her account,
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as opposed to contradict it.
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And we had a DNA match
between Jerry Ramrattan
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and the swab taken from Ms. Sumasar.
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Seemona came across very credibly.
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So it was a case
that I felt very comfortable prosecuting.
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The case was presented to the grand jury.
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We secured an indictment
against the defendant.
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And, we were... at that point,
we were waiting for the trial to launch.
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I would get visits
from random people that we knew
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or mutual friends or some friend of his.
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His mother called me.
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They were pleading for him,
asking me to drop the charges against him.
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But I... I... I knew he... he... he sent them.
283
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It was obvious.
284
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I did get a restraining order,
and then the calls stopped.
285
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I remember Frank the ADA calling me,
286
00:20:45,535 --> 00:20:49,206
telling me that by August of 2010,
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we should be having
some hearings for trial.
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00:20:53,126 --> 00:20:56,755
I remember thinking
the sooner I get a trial out of this,
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the sooner some decision is made.
290
00:21:00,008 --> 00:21:01,176
It's gonna be over.
291
00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:05,472
There's no way that he's gonna go to trial
and get off of this. There's no way.
292
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I think it was a Friday.
293
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I was working at the restaurant.
294
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A friend asked me
to prepare a fish dish for him
295
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and drop it off at his work,
296
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which was just a few blocks away.
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I was pulling up right in front of, um,
the school where he worked.
298
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As I'm pulling up, I hear sirens.
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Of course, I didn't think it was for me.
300
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So I thought I was safe.
301
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But it was for me.
302
00:21:52,102 --> 00:21:54,271
I was told to step out of the car.
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Did I run a stoplight? Did I signal?
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I just stepped out of the car
305
00:22:00,485 --> 00:22:03,488
because I'm still thinking
this is a big mistake.
306
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Let me just do what they want,
and handcuffs go on.
307
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They just escort me to another vehicle,
308
00:22:13,415 --> 00:22:18,462
and they started to drive
towards Long Island.
309
00:22:22,132 --> 00:22:27,095
At that point I'm like,
"Why are we going to Long Island?"
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00:22:29,306 --> 00:22:32,142
And they were like,
"When we get there, you'll understand."
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I get to the precinct.
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I was in the interrogation room
with Detective Charles and Detective Nill.
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Do I have anything to confess?
Do I have anything to say?
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00:22:49,201 --> 00:22:55,332
And I said, "No. Like, clearly,
you made a mistake. I shouldn't be here."
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00:22:56,541 --> 00:23:01,463
They are like, if I tell them now,
it's going to be much easier later on.
316
00:23:02,255 --> 00:23:04,508
"Did you think that I did something?"
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"I didn't do anything,
so I'm not thinking like that."
318
00:23:07,052 --> 00:23:08,678
"You know exactly what you did."
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00:23:09,930 --> 00:23:12,766
I was pleading to her, like,
"Why can't you people just tell me
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00:23:12,849 --> 00:23:16,603
what it is that you think I did,
so I could say yes or no?"
321
00:23:16,686 --> 00:23:18,355
But... but nothing.
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00:23:21,942 --> 00:23:23,652
For hours it went by.
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00:23:24,403 --> 00:23:27,656
At one point,
Detective Charles brought a file,
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00:23:27,739 --> 00:23:30,158
and it was Jerry's picture in it.
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00:23:30,784 --> 00:23:33,495
And I ask, "Does this
have something to do with Jerry?"
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00:23:33,578 --> 00:23:37,499
"If... if you think I did something,
then he's behind it. I didn't do it."
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00:23:37,582 --> 00:23:40,919
And she brushed that off like,
"No, this has nothing to do with him."
328
00:23:46,466 --> 00:23:49,136
I worked for
the New York City Police Department
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{\an8}in the division of
the Police Impersonations unit.
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00:23:54,099 --> 00:23:57,185
I was working two crimes
that happened in Queens
331
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within the NYPD jurisdiction.
332
00:23:59,855 --> 00:24:03,692
The cases were
police impersonation robbery cases.
333
00:24:05,569 --> 00:24:11,074
Victims were giving the description
as one female committing these crimes.
334
00:24:12,534 --> 00:24:15,120
We received a call from Nassau County.
335
00:24:15,787 --> 00:24:18,957
They had a pattern
similar to our pattern in Queens.
336
00:24:19,916 --> 00:24:23,003
I was told,
"We just arrested this person."
337
00:24:25,964 --> 00:24:31,261
"And we believe that this is the same
perpetrator that NYPD was looking for."
338
00:24:32,762 --> 00:24:36,391
When I went to
the Fourth Precinct in Nassau County,
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00:24:36,475 --> 00:24:39,519
Detective Charles showed me a photo array.
340
00:24:39,603 --> 00:24:42,564
She said the complainant picked her out.
341
00:24:43,148 --> 00:24:46,776
I asked Detective Charles,
"Do you want to come inside with me?"
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00:24:46,860 --> 00:24:51,072
She says, "No, I don't need to."
I said, "Okay," so I went in there myself.
343
00:24:56,328 --> 00:24:58,121
During the interrogation,
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00:24:58,205 --> 00:25:02,834
I had no idea what it is
that I was being accused and charged with.
345
00:25:03,668 --> 00:25:06,421
By the time Marisa came,
346
00:25:06,505 --> 00:25:09,925
it was... it was late, and I was worn out.
347
00:25:10,008 --> 00:25:12,093
Like I was... I was done.
348
00:25:12,177 --> 00:25:13,762
I didn't know what else to say.
349
00:25:15,388 --> 00:25:17,933
I could see that she was crying.
350
00:25:18,808 --> 00:25:22,229
I explained to her the two crimes
that happened in Queens.
351
00:25:23,021 --> 00:25:26,483
Marisa,
she told me about an incident
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00:25:26,566 --> 00:25:29,152
that happened seven months ago
or something like that.
353
00:25:29,236 --> 00:25:33,949
Impersonation of a cop
and robbery at gunpoint.
354
00:25:34,032 --> 00:25:35,951
That's the two things
that stuck out to me.
355
00:25:36,451 --> 00:25:39,454
What I'm thinking at that point
is impersonating a cop.
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00:25:40,372 --> 00:25:42,040
That's just like Jerry,
357
00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:45,961
so I figured
Jerry's obviously behind this.
358
00:25:47,420 --> 00:25:52,008
And she starts to tell me about
this person named Jerry
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00:25:52,801 --> 00:25:54,010
and that she was raped.
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00:25:55,929 --> 00:26:01,226
And she said, "I'm here because
my ex is setting me up,"
361
00:26:02,686 --> 00:26:05,522
because she was going to trial
for the rape.
362
00:26:07,023 --> 00:26:08,316
That's not what I expected.
363
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,153
From what I could see
and how Seemona was acting
364
00:26:13,321 --> 00:26:15,115
and, of course,
what Seemona was telling me,
365
00:26:16,449 --> 00:26:18,493
Seemona was not being heard.
366
00:26:18,577 --> 00:26:21,204
And plus, the woman was raped,
and I believe her.
367
00:26:22,622 --> 00:26:25,917
And I remember how she held my arm
as she kept saying,
368
00:26:26,001 --> 00:26:28,128
"Please don't leave me here."
369
00:26:28,211 --> 00:26:32,382
That's stuck with me until today.
I still can't...
370
00:26:33,258 --> 00:26:34,801
It's still very, um...
371
00:26:40,473 --> 00:26:43,101
There's nothing we could do.
It's not our case.
372
00:26:43,935 --> 00:26:45,270
This is Nassau County.
373
00:26:45,979 --> 00:26:48,356
When Detective Charles
took me out of the room,
374
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,941
I said, "What's gonna happen to her?"
375
00:26:50,734 --> 00:26:53,862
There's a lot of information here
that needs to be investigated.
376
00:26:54,362 --> 00:26:58,074
I could feel by the way
Seemona described the cases
377
00:26:58,158 --> 00:27:03,622
that supposedly she was supposed
to be part of in Nassau County
378
00:27:04,164 --> 00:27:06,291
that she didn't know
what she was talking about.
379
00:27:06,374 --> 00:27:07,917
She just didn't know how to do...
380
00:27:08,001 --> 00:27:12,005
She didn't know how to do a robbery.
She didn't know how to stop a car.
381
00:27:13,089 --> 00:27:16,092
I was assured that she would be let free
382
00:27:16,176 --> 00:27:18,887
if she did not do the crime
in Nassau County,
383
00:27:18,970 --> 00:27:23,350
but I knew she definitely did not
do the crime in Queens.
384
00:27:32,442 --> 00:27:34,362
I can't even remember
in between, like,
385
00:27:34,402 --> 00:27:36,196
how I got from point A to point B,
386
00:27:36,279 --> 00:27:39,824
from the precinct to the courthouse,
387
00:27:39,908 --> 00:27:43,453
but it was that same very morning
a few hours later.
388
00:27:46,790 --> 00:27:48,583
I was sure when I saw the judge,
389
00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:50,794
they're gonna realize
they really don't have anything
390
00:27:50,877 --> 00:27:53,296
and they have no choice
but to let me go home.
391
00:27:54,005 --> 00:27:58,677
And then the next thing I remember,
I'm being read charges.
392
00:27:59,969 --> 00:28:03,306
In my mind,
I'm like, uh, "Is this some type of joke?"
393
00:28:05,058 --> 00:28:09,187
Now that you're telling me what I did,
I know I absolutely didn't do that.
394
00:28:09,270 --> 00:28:10,522
None of that even happened.
395
00:28:12,565 --> 00:28:14,192
And then the next thing you know,
396
00:28:14,275 --> 00:28:18,238
I'm being transported
to Nassau County Correctional Facility.
397
00:28:24,577 --> 00:28:26,705
I was at the store working.
398
00:28:26,788 --> 00:28:28,957
My cousin comes up to me and he's crying.
399
00:28:29,582 --> 00:28:31,459
All he keeps saying is, "Auntie Seemona."
400
00:28:31,543 --> 00:28:33,545
So I'm like, "What happened?"
401
00:28:34,337 --> 00:28:35,880
He was like, "She was locked up."
402
00:28:37,841 --> 00:28:39,676
We closed the store and we left.
403
00:28:41,344 --> 00:28:43,304
Nobody knew what was going on.
404
00:28:43,930 --> 00:28:48,017
{\an8}All we know is
they have her for armed robbery.
405
00:28:48,101 --> 00:28:50,645
{\an8}Armed robbery? You gotta be kidding me.
406
00:28:52,397 --> 00:28:54,816
It's like, "What the hell?"
407
00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:59,571
Chiara, I talked to on the phone
on the very first day.
408
00:28:59,654 --> 00:29:02,741
I tried to give Chiara some hope
because she's a child.
409
00:29:03,533 --> 00:29:06,202
"Bear with me. I'm not gonna be home
for a couple of days."
410
00:29:06,828 --> 00:29:10,206
"No matter what, just listen to
your grandmother and your aunt,
411
00:29:10,290 --> 00:29:11,708
and that's it."
412
00:29:18,506 --> 00:29:23,678
{\an8}I became involved in Seemona's case
at the request of a colleague
413
00:29:23,762 --> 00:29:26,514
{\an8}who knew me from representing people
414
00:29:26,598 --> 00:29:31,060
who were arrested and convicted
for crimes they had not committed.
415
00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:35,565
Seemona was arrested
on two separate felony complaints.
416
00:29:36,065 --> 00:29:39,194
She faced catastrophic jail time.
417
00:29:39,778 --> 00:29:41,988
I mean, her exposure was immense.
418
00:29:42,071 --> 00:29:46,993
These two armed robberies
carried 16 separate felonies
419
00:29:47,076 --> 00:29:51,122
with a maximum exposure
of up to 50 years in jail.
420
00:29:51,206 --> 00:29:53,708
Seemona's bail was set
at a million dollars.
421
00:29:55,919 --> 00:29:58,963
At that point in time,
the court was well aware that
422
00:29:59,047 --> 00:30:01,716
Seemona could not make
that bail unfortunately,
423
00:30:02,425 --> 00:30:07,055
but it was a very serious charge,
and it reflected that.
424
00:30:09,974 --> 00:30:12,936
All I thought about at the time,
425
00:30:13,019 --> 00:30:15,647
I keep on playing over and over again,
426
00:30:15,730 --> 00:30:21,319
is that you could rape somebody
and get away with 150,000 dollars bail,
427
00:30:21,945 --> 00:30:25,782
but I'm... I'm sitting here,
and I didn't do anything.
428
00:30:27,826 --> 00:30:29,118
And I... I can't go home.
429
00:30:33,748 --> 00:30:38,503
{\an8}Seemona immediately professed that
she was innocent of any of these crimes
430
00:30:38,586 --> 00:30:42,715
and that she was convinced
that Jerry was behind this
431
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:44,968
and was attempting to frame her,
432
00:30:45,051 --> 00:30:49,889
to discredit her from his upcoming
rape trial in Queens, New York.
433
00:30:51,975 --> 00:30:55,895
As soon as I received the phone call
and I learned what the allegations were,
434
00:30:55,979 --> 00:30:58,147
{\an8}I immediately thought,
"This is a little surprising."
435
00:30:58,231 --> 00:30:59,607
{\an8}It didn't compute.
436
00:30:59,691 --> 00:31:02,318
{\an8}It didn't, uh, match
what I had known of Seemona,
437
00:31:03,611 --> 00:31:06,656
which made me very concerned
for the viability of my prosecution.
438
00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:09,576
At that point,
the rape case was ready for trial.
439
00:31:09,659 --> 00:31:13,288
But the jury in the rape case
could be interpreting her credibility
440
00:31:13,371 --> 00:31:17,083
in a very different light as someone
who is convicted of those robberies,
441
00:31:17,166 --> 00:31:20,545
which could be devastating to our ability
to get a conviction in this case.
442
00:31:21,254 --> 00:31:23,965
And so the rape case
was kind of at a standstill,
443
00:31:24,048 --> 00:31:25,592
while that case played out.
444
00:31:29,554 --> 00:31:33,892
I'd like to say
that I always believe my clients,
445
00:31:33,975 --> 00:31:37,854
but you know, what's so important
is to get down to the facts.
446
00:31:40,064 --> 00:31:43,401
On September 15th, there was a call
447
00:31:43,484 --> 00:31:47,113
by an individual by the name of Rajive,
448
00:31:47,196 --> 00:31:50,700
and he claimed
that he was stopped randomly,
449
00:31:52,076 --> 00:31:57,373
robbed at gunpoint by a dark female,
gold shield around her neck,
450
00:31:58,041 --> 00:32:00,793
and also brandishing a black handgun.
451
00:32:01,669 --> 00:32:06,049
It was investigated by New York PD,
and then the case was dropped.
452
00:32:07,717 --> 00:32:11,471
{\an8}And then on March 2nd,
1:30 in the morning,
453
00:32:11,554 --> 00:32:15,600
{\an8}Terrell Lovell claimed
that he was stopped randomly
454
00:32:16,184 --> 00:32:21,481
by a dark Indian woman,
approximately five feet,
455
00:32:21,564 --> 00:32:27,528
gold shield around her neck,
holding a black semi-automatic gun.
456
00:32:27,612 --> 00:32:31,699
Handcuffed him,
steals a hundred dollars US cash,
457
00:32:32,283 --> 00:32:35,328
removes his Movado watch, a pinky ring.
458
00:32:45,338 --> 00:32:50,885
Terrell was able to give
a partial plate number of the Jeep.
459
00:32:54,013 --> 00:32:59,435
{\an8}On May 19th, 2010, Luz Johnson called 911
460
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:04,983
and reported a similar gunpoint robbery
in Inwood, New York.
461
00:33:22,709 --> 00:33:28,381
She also stated that this was
executed by a dark-skinned Indian woman
462
00:33:29,007 --> 00:33:34,512
brandishing a black handgun
with a bulletproof vest, gold shield.
463
00:33:35,763 --> 00:33:41,019
The thief steals allegedly
1,400 dollars from her purse.
464
00:33:41,894 --> 00:33:47,233
In this case, Luz Johnson was able
to give the full plate number,
465
00:33:47,316 --> 00:33:51,654
and the police linked the car
back to Seemona.
466
00:33:51,738 --> 00:33:57,827
And they had conducted a photo array
of Seemona Sumasar,
467
00:33:57,910 --> 00:34:01,080
and Seemona was identified
468
00:34:01,164 --> 00:34:05,209
{\an8}by both Terrell Lovell and Luz Johnson,
469
00:34:05,293 --> 00:34:07,295
resulting in her arrest.
470
00:34:09,422 --> 00:34:11,382
Now according to Luz Johnson,
471
00:34:13,009 --> 00:34:19,599
she called 911 at 1:30 a.m.
on May 19th in Inwood, New York.
472
00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:23,978
But the problem with her account is that
473
00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:28,775
Seemona's over 100 miles away
at the time of the robbery.
474
00:34:29,901 --> 00:34:31,903
{\an8}She was at the Mohegan Sun,
475
00:34:33,404 --> 00:34:38,868
so it would be physically impossible
for her to have committed this robbery.
476
00:34:39,827 --> 00:34:42,580
One o'clock in the morning,
if it's really May 19th,
477
00:34:43,164 --> 00:34:46,167
I was in the casino,
and I could prove this easily.
478
00:34:46,793 --> 00:34:48,669
I made phone calls from up there.
479
00:34:49,253 --> 00:34:52,924
Anything you do
at... at... at... a gambling table is recorded.
480
00:34:53,007 --> 00:34:55,968
They have those footage.
I know enough to know that.
481
00:34:57,428 --> 00:35:01,682
Between the surveillance footage
placing her at the Mohegan Sun,
482
00:35:01,766 --> 00:35:06,187
and, you know, if you make a call,
you're going to ping off of cell towers.
483
00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:08,606
It was just an ironclad alibi
484
00:35:08,689 --> 00:35:12,902
that presented a host of problems
for the prosecution.
485
00:35:22,787 --> 00:35:26,499
Seemona testified
in the grand jury under oath.
486
00:35:27,708 --> 00:35:32,630
Not only was the alibi presented,
proof for the alibi described it.
487
00:35:32,713 --> 00:35:35,383
She was at... at the Mohegan Sun.
488
00:35:35,466 --> 00:35:38,594
This was her and that,
you know, she was with relatives
489
00:35:38,678 --> 00:35:41,238
and arrived back at her place of business
at 3:00 in the morning.
490
00:35:41,264 --> 00:35:43,224
She couldn't have done this.
491
00:35:43,933 --> 00:35:47,645
But in court, I heard that
the picture wasn't clear enough.
492
00:35:47,728 --> 00:35:48,771
It was grainy.
493
00:35:49,897 --> 00:35:51,899
So that didn't really help me.
494
00:35:52,441 --> 00:35:57,029
And then, even the cell tower
actually picked up
495
00:35:57,113 --> 00:35:58,906
the calls that I made to Chiara.
496
00:35:58,990 --> 00:36:01,951
Apparently, anybody could have had
my phone in Connecticut
497
00:36:02,535 --> 00:36:03,995
while I'm in New York.
498
00:36:04,871 --> 00:36:06,706
So that didn't help me either.
499
00:36:09,167 --> 00:36:13,754
They had enough evidence,
I guess, to put me on trial.
500
00:36:17,175 --> 00:36:21,095
This is when I really started to panic.
501
00:36:22,138 --> 00:36:26,601
I'm absolutely freaking out
because I am trying to figure out
502
00:36:27,727 --> 00:36:33,274
if they have all these things
they concocted, all this falsified stuff,
503
00:36:33,774 --> 00:36:36,402
what... what...
what is going to be my defense?
504
00:36:38,613 --> 00:36:42,033
A month goes by. Two months goes by.
505
00:36:43,117 --> 00:36:44,952
The strip-downs, the pat-downs.
506
00:36:46,162 --> 00:36:50,374
Every day seems like a lifetime
when you're in a place like that.
507
00:36:51,709 --> 00:36:54,212
I'm repeating myself over and over,
508
00:36:54,295 --> 00:36:56,881
"This is all Jerry's doing
and blah blah blah."
509
00:36:56,964 --> 00:37:00,509
It... it doesn't help... it doesn't help
because nobody is looking into him.
510
00:37:02,678 --> 00:37:05,306
Seemona testified
before the grand jury
511
00:37:05,389 --> 00:37:07,391
she was being set up by Jerry.
512
00:37:08,267 --> 00:37:11,312
So all you have to do
is cross-reference phone records
513
00:37:11,395 --> 00:37:16,108
{\an8}of Luz Johnson,
Terrell Lovell, and Jerry Ramrattan
514
00:37:16,192 --> 00:37:18,861
{\an8}for the cases in Nassau County
515
00:37:18,945 --> 00:37:22,615
to at least be able to verify
if there was any contact
516
00:37:22,698 --> 00:37:24,018
and these people know each other.
517
00:37:28,204 --> 00:37:31,666
I wrote a letter to the DA
and adamantly argued
518
00:37:31,749 --> 00:37:35,419
that I should be entitled
to one year's worth of phone records,
519
00:37:36,003 --> 00:37:41,175
{\an8}uh, between Johnson, Lovell, and Jerry.
520
00:37:42,426 --> 00:37:47,014
{\an8}However, in this particular case,
that was denied.
521
00:37:47,598 --> 00:37:53,271
And I was nervous about the reality
that I was not receiving any discovery
522
00:37:53,354 --> 00:37:57,316
to link Jerry
to any of these other individuals,
523
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:03,114
which was the core of Seemona's defense
and without that, it was troubled.
524
00:38:11,247 --> 00:38:14,166
One time,
I was looking at the news,
525
00:38:14,250 --> 00:38:17,128
saw that Seemona was locked up
in Nassau County.
526
00:38:17,795 --> 00:38:21,757
I was like, "Oh my God,
this guy's plan actually went through,
527
00:38:21,841 --> 00:38:24,260
and people actually believe his bullshit."
528
00:38:34,770 --> 00:38:38,274
One day, Jerry messaged me,
and he was like,
529
00:38:38,357 --> 00:38:41,152
"We have to hang out.
We have to, you know, catch up."
530
00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:47,742
Jerry did mention that Seemona found out
about his wife and kids.
531
00:38:48,326 --> 00:38:51,537
At the time, Jerry did say
he was trying to get back with his wife,
532
00:38:51,620 --> 00:38:55,666
and Seemona was going to call
Child Services to mess that up.
533
00:38:56,208 --> 00:38:59,712
To be honest, I didn't think
that was something she would do.
534
00:39:01,297 --> 00:39:05,468
Then he went on to say,
"I need you to do me a big favor."
535
00:39:05,551 --> 00:39:10,306
"I need you to call the cops and tell them
that Seemona pulled you over,
536
00:39:10,389 --> 00:39:14,268
and she came up to your car
with a gun and a badge."
537
00:39:14,852 --> 00:39:18,272
At that moment, I'm like,
"Wait a minute. Is he really serious?"
538
00:39:18,356 --> 00:39:20,191
Like, "I'm not gonna do
something like that."
539
00:39:21,817 --> 00:39:23,944
He didn't want to take no for an answer.
540
00:39:24,028 --> 00:39:27,031
I was like, "Oh my God, what the hell's
wrong with this guy?"
541
00:39:29,658 --> 00:39:32,370
After that,
we went to meet a friend of his.
542
00:39:32,453 --> 00:39:33,453
Rajive.
543
00:39:34,163 --> 00:39:39,585
I overheard them saying something
about the plan to frame Seemona.
544
00:39:40,544 --> 00:39:44,173
That's when I kind of realized
everything was real.
545
00:39:46,092 --> 00:39:48,094
Like, this guy is really crazy.
546
00:39:48,177 --> 00:39:52,807
So that kind of spooked me,
and that's what kind of, like,
547
00:39:52,890 --> 00:39:55,726
made me stay away from Jerry after that.
548
00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:59,855
He's, like, someone
you don't wanna mess with.
549
00:39:59,939 --> 00:40:01,982
You don't want to be on their bad side.
550
00:40:12,284 --> 00:40:14,245
We honestly thought
she wasn't gonna get out
551
00:40:14,745 --> 00:40:17,706
because of the way... the way
everything was stacked against her.
552
00:40:19,083 --> 00:40:22,503
We just felt like there was nothing
we could do to prove her innocence.
553
00:40:24,547 --> 00:40:25,548
The store didn't last.
554
00:40:25,631 --> 00:40:29,969
I... I would say maybe less than a month
after Seemona was arrested.
555
00:40:31,303 --> 00:40:35,057
We just didn't know what to do
because she... she handled everything.
556
00:40:36,517 --> 00:40:39,645
I lost everything I worked for.
557
00:40:40,813 --> 00:40:42,189
Every single thing.
558
00:40:43,482 --> 00:40:47,445
When I found out that the house was
gonna to go into foreclosure, I was angry.
559
00:40:48,279 --> 00:40:54,618
It was always going to be mine,
I guess, or in the family type of thing
560
00:40:54,702 --> 00:40:59,582
because that house is the house
I came into this country and I lived in.
561
00:41:03,961 --> 00:41:05,671
When Seemona was in jail,
562
00:41:06,797 --> 00:41:09,008
you see Chiara looking with the sad eyes.
563
00:41:10,759 --> 00:41:14,638
So we would tell her, "Your mom is okay.
She gonna be out soon."
564
00:41:16,223 --> 00:41:18,225
But she looked so depressed.
565
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:19,643
You could see it in her face.
566
00:41:21,562 --> 00:41:24,815
But I... I did not give up hope.
I did not give up hope.
567
00:41:24,899 --> 00:41:28,360
I said she didn't do it.
One day, she will get out of there.
568
00:41:28,944 --> 00:41:32,031
One day, one day
somebody gonna prove her innocent.
569
00:41:36,994 --> 00:41:40,539
So five months after Seemona
was arrested and was jailed,
570
00:41:41,290 --> 00:41:44,793
I went out with my friends
to a bar in Queens
571
00:41:44,877 --> 00:41:50,174
and Rajive, one of the witnesses
that Jerry paid off,
572
00:41:50,674 --> 00:41:52,218
he walked into the bar.
573
00:41:52,301 --> 00:41:54,929
I greeted Rajive.
I'm like, "Hi. How you doing?"
574
00:41:55,012 --> 00:41:56,847
"You remember me?" You know.
575
00:41:56,931 --> 00:42:00,059
And then he was talking to me
and I'm like, "Listen."
576
00:42:00,142 --> 00:42:01,644
"I know what you did."
577
00:42:02,728 --> 00:42:06,023
"You said that Seemona robbed you,
which we know is a lie."
578
00:42:06,524 --> 00:42:08,817
"You need to... to tell the truth."
579
00:42:08,901 --> 00:42:12,321
"And if you don't tell the truth,
I'm gonna go to the DA and tell myself."
580
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:18,035
So he's like, "Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I feel bad about it."
581
00:42:18,118 --> 00:42:19,870
"I want to tell them the truth too."
582
00:42:19,954 --> 00:42:22,540
"I'll call you,
and we'll take care of it."
583
00:42:23,374 --> 00:42:27,920
Instead of him calling me,
Rajive called the cops.
584
00:42:30,506 --> 00:42:31,966
And then a couple days later...
585
00:42:33,467 --> 00:42:35,135
...the cops called me.
586
00:42:35,886 --> 00:42:38,681
I went to the precinct
and met with internal affairs.
587
00:42:39,974 --> 00:42:43,477
I told them that
Jerry was the mastermind behind this.
588
00:42:43,561 --> 00:42:44,979
Seemona didn't do anything.
589
00:42:45,062 --> 00:42:49,984
She was innocent,
and Jerry paid off witnesses to lie
590
00:42:50,067 --> 00:42:51,277
and say she robbed them.
591
00:42:52,736 --> 00:42:54,947
The detective did not believe me.
592
00:42:56,448 --> 00:43:01,328
He told me, "No, Seemona was guilty.
Jerry has nothing to do with it."
593
00:43:01,412 --> 00:43:07,167
And I was working alongside with Seemona
and I was threatening the witnesses.
594
00:43:09,169 --> 00:43:13,465
The detective threw the handcuffs on me
and takes me to jail.
595
00:43:16,552 --> 00:43:18,712
It took a while,
but eventually we learned that
596
00:43:18,762 --> 00:43:21,890
Rajive reported the conversation to Jerry.
597
00:43:21,974 --> 00:43:27,438
Uh, Jerry then had Rajive Mohanlal file
a police report,
598
00:43:27,521 --> 00:43:29,648
uh, stating that
somebody had tampered with him,
599
00:43:29,732 --> 00:43:33,110
and he had the informant arrested
for tampering with the witness.
600
00:43:35,279 --> 00:43:37,865
Well, when I saw the charges, I was like,
601
00:43:38,616 --> 00:43:42,286
"Oh my God, they're actually charging me
with a felony for something I didn't do?"
602
00:43:48,375 --> 00:43:51,045
At that point,
I was trying to defend myself.
603
00:43:51,795 --> 00:43:53,672
I had to hire a lawyer.
604
00:43:53,756 --> 00:43:55,215
Financially, it was draining.
605
00:43:55,299 --> 00:43:58,260
I lost time out of my job.
606
00:43:58,344 --> 00:44:03,599
Emotionally, I was, like, depressed,
and, um, I was angry.
607
00:44:04,183 --> 00:44:07,019
I just had to get...
I had to get these charges dropped.
608
00:44:18,656 --> 00:44:20,574
The last time
I went to see Seemona,
609
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,118
it seemed like she had lost hope too,
610
00:44:23,202 --> 00:44:25,871
that she just didn't know
what to do, what to say.
611
00:44:25,954 --> 00:44:28,165
It was... it was just weird.
It was mostly silence.
612
00:44:30,709 --> 00:44:35,839
It took a lot of energy just to be there,
to, like, have a visit.
613
00:44:37,424 --> 00:44:39,426
It was bad. It was bad.
614
00:44:40,135 --> 00:44:42,930
I got sick. I couldn't eat.
615
00:44:44,056 --> 00:44:46,058
I lost a lot of weight.
616
00:44:46,684 --> 00:44:48,394
My skin was breaking out.
617
00:44:48,477 --> 00:44:50,312
My hair was coming out in clumps.
618
00:44:51,230 --> 00:44:52,856
I had ear infections.
619
00:44:53,649 --> 00:44:56,610
Everything was just spiraling down,
one by one.
620
00:44:58,445 --> 00:45:01,532
It was... it was hard because he...
621
00:45:01,615 --> 00:45:06,787
Jerry took everything, everything
away from me. I lost everything.
622
00:45:09,081 --> 00:45:14,169
And even... even... even seven months
of being with my child.
623
00:45:20,217 --> 00:45:22,344
In December of 2010,
624
00:45:22,428 --> 00:45:25,305
Sophia Lewis walked
into the Nassau DA's office
625
00:45:26,014 --> 00:45:30,477
{\an8}and asked to speak to somebody
about, um, Seemona's case.
626
00:45:30,561 --> 00:45:35,023
Um, could you tell us, first of all,
how did you come to know Jerry Ramrattan?
627
00:45:35,107 --> 00:45:37,943
I met him in a nightclub in Queens.
628
00:45:38,026 --> 00:45:41,029
After you met him, um,
you developed a relationship with him?
629
00:45:41,113 --> 00:45:41,947
Yes.
630
00:45:42,030 --> 00:45:44,742
Okay. Is it fair to say you became
boyfriend and girlfriend?
631
00:45:44,825 --> 00:45:45,659
Yes.
632
00:45:45,743 --> 00:45:50,581
Okay. Did you hear anything about,
uh, something that Jerry wanted to do?
633
00:45:51,165 --> 00:45:56,920
He said that he wanted to set his ex up
because she had threatened to set him up.
634
00:45:57,004 --> 00:46:00,591
So he was going to get her first
before she sets him up.
635
00:46:01,091 --> 00:46:04,595
She brought to light
the fact that there had been no robbery
636
00:46:04,678 --> 00:46:06,221
and that it had all been staged.
637
00:46:06,305 --> 00:46:08,724
And who was that person
that he got to do it?
638
00:46:08,807 --> 00:46:10,893
He told me it was his cousin Rajive.
639
00:46:11,894 --> 00:46:13,979
And he said,
"This is how it's gonna go down."
640
00:46:14,062 --> 00:46:16,899
"You're gonna say that, you know,
this person robbed him or whatever."
641
00:46:17,691 --> 00:46:19,485
Jerry drove Rajive around,
642
00:46:19,568 --> 00:46:23,906
and Sophia Lewis was in the car,
uh, with him at this time.
643
00:46:24,573 --> 00:46:30,162
Jerry asked Rajive to, uh, help him
stage a robbery against an ex-girlfriend.
644
00:46:30,245 --> 00:46:34,082
Uh, Jerry, uh, pulled out his handgun,
put it on his lap,
645
00:46:34,166 --> 00:46:37,211
and told Rajive that, you know,
something could happen to his family
646
00:46:37,294 --> 00:46:39,296
if he didn't help Jerry out.
647
00:46:39,379 --> 00:46:40,923
I think Rajive took it seriously.
648
00:46:41,507 --> 00:46:44,510
Did you remember anything else
he said to Rajive about this at all?
649
00:46:44,593 --> 00:46:47,554
{\an8}He said before
how it was all gonna go down.
650
00:46:48,889 --> 00:46:52,059
He was gonna have people in Queens
to say they got robbed,
651
00:46:52,142 --> 00:46:54,728
and the last place
that he would want to pick her up
652
00:46:54,812 --> 00:46:57,940
would be Nassau County because
their rules are stricter than Queens.
653
00:46:58,816 --> 00:47:01,360
Now what about Terrell Lovell
and Luz Johnson?
654
00:47:01,443 --> 00:47:03,779
- Do you know those two individuals?
- Yes.
655
00:47:03,862 --> 00:47:07,282
Jerry offered Terrell Lovell
and Luz Johnson
656
00:47:07,366 --> 00:47:11,119
20,000 dollars to cooperate with him
and stage this robbery.
657
00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:13,497
They were never paid the money.
658
00:47:14,915 --> 00:47:17,543
As the details
of what had happened became clear,
659
00:47:17,626 --> 00:47:21,088
I was stunned at the machinations
that Jerry had gone through
660
00:47:21,171 --> 00:47:24,383
in order to, uh, try to derail
the rape prosecution.
661
00:47:25,300 --> 00:47:27,010
In the first staged robbery,
662
00:47:27,094 --> 00:47:30,055
very cleverly,
there was no license plate given.
663
00:47:30,138 --> 00:47:31,765
It sounds very reasonable.
664
00:47:31,849 --> 00:47:34,810
{\an8}Rajive was scared.
He doesn't get a license plate.
665
00:47:34,893 --> 00:47:37,855
{\an8}And then the incident in Nassau
with Terrell Lovell...
666
00:47:41,817 --> 00:47:43,694
He got a partial license plate.
667
00:47:43,777 --> 00:47:47,155
By the time of the third incident,
we were much closer to trial,
668
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,659
and I think Jerry knew that,
you know, he had to close the loop.
669
00:47:51,910 --> 00:47:56,623
{\an8}And so when the fake robbery that was
staged with Luz Johnson occurred...
670
00:47:59,209 --> 00:48:00,854
...you get the full license plate,
671
00:48:00,878 --> 00:48:04,464
and there's no way that the police
couldn't put two and two together
672
00:48:04,548 --> 00:48:05,841
and end up with Seemona.
673
00:48:06,425 --> 00:48:11,388
And so it was actually really devious
and incredibly clever on Jerry's part.
674
00:48:14,474 --> 00:48:17,102
Jerry, at various points,
had been a confidential informant
675
00:48:17,185 --> 00:48:19,897
for a number of different units
within the NYPD.
676
00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:23,525
He knew how the police operated,
he knew how the detectives operated,
677
00:48:23,609 --> 00:48:26,278
and he was able to leverage that knowledge
678
00:48:26,361 --> 00:48:29,781
to make these accusations
look better than they were.
679
00:48:30,574 --> 00:48:34,536
Did Jerry ever say anything else to you
about these false robberies or...
680
00:48:34,620 --> 00:48:37,956
No, 'cause after the first two,
I told him I didn't want to know anything.
681
00:48:39,249 --> 00:48:42,878
I told him I didn't want to know anything,
don't tell me anything.
682
00:48:42,961 --> 00:48:44,963
I don't wanna know what you're doing.
683
00:48:45,464 --> 00:48:47,674
And he was pissed off about that.
684
00:48:49,426 --> 00:48:54,264
Sophia Lewis was becoming
increasingly fed up with his behavior.
685
00:48:55,265 --> 00:48:58,810
And she deserves a lot of credit
for trying to do the right thing.
686
00:49:07,694 --> 00:49:10,405
{\an8}I get called down
that I have a visitor.
687
00:49:11,657 --> 00:49:17,704
I thought that somebody was coming there
to tell me something terrible happened
688
00:49:17,788 --> 00:49:23,502
because no family member
were scheduled to visit me.
689
00:49:24,086 --> 00:49:28,715
But it ended up being Tony,
and he came with good news.
690
00:49:29,424 --> 00:49:32,260
And he told me I was gonna be released.
691
00:49:34,221 --> 00:49:37,766
You know, here we are,
preparing for the trial of her lifetime,
692
00:49:38,350 --> 00:49:40,936
and all the charges were being dropped.
693
00:49:41,019 --> 00:49:45,607
It's oh my God. Thank you
that the truth has finally come out.
694
00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:49,403
I had never had
so much energy in my life,
695
00:49:49,486 --> 00:49:51,488
jumping up and down for joy.
696
00:49:52,114 --> 00:49:56,827
He had Chiara there,
so I got to see her right away.
697
00:49:56,910 --> 00:49:58,286
Didn't have to wait.
698
00:49:59,871 --> 00:50:06,044
If she wasn't as strong as she was
throughout the entire seven months,
699
00:50:07,629 --> 00:50:09,589
I don't think I would have made it.
700
00:50:12,342 --> 00:50:15,971
So yeah, I can't think of a better day.
701
00:50:21,018 --> 00:50:23,418
The first time we saw Seemona
was really emotional.
702
00:50:23,895 --> 00:50:25,272
It was a lot of crying.
703
00:50:26,023 --> 00:50:28,025
We... we just wanted
to celebrate everything.
704
00:50:28,108 --> 00:50:30,110
We just wanted to make a big deal.
705
00:50:30,193 --> 00:50:33,238
If she was going to go eat a meal,
we wanted to make it a big deal.
706
00:50:33,321 --> 00:50:35,991
It was... it was... it was great.
707
00:50:37,951 --> 00:50:38,827
She was framed.
708
00:50:38,910 --> 00:50:42,622
{\an8}A Long Island woman spent months in jail
for a crime she did not commit,
709
00:50:42,706 --> 00:50:46,209
{\an8}and now police are finally admitting
that she was set up by her ex-boyfriend.
710
00:50:49,963 --> 00:50:52,799
Once the conspiracy unraveled,
711
00:50:52,883 --> 00:50:55,635
the first thing to do is
build the case against Jerry.
712
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,221
{\an8}We were able to flip
the three co-conspirators,
713
00:50:58,305 --> 00:51:02,100
{\an8}Rajive Mohanlal, Terrell Lovell,
and Luz Johnson,
714
00:51:02,184 --> 00:51:05,520
{\an8}and use them as witnesses
to testify against Jerry.
715
00:51:06,605 --> 00:51:11,234
{\an8}They gave statements
that there were, in fact, no robberies,
716
00:51:11,318 --> 00:51:13,612
that Jerry had coached them,
717
00:51:13,695 --> 00:51:16,281
that Jerry had shown them
photographs of Seemona
718
00:51:16,364 --> 00:51:20,911
so that they could identify her,
that Jerry had provided them plate numbers
719
00:51:21,578 --> 00:51:24,498
and they sang like canaries.
720
00:51:24,581 --> 00:51:25,999
And the gig was up.
721
00:51:28,502 --> 00:51:31,546
As the case was moving towards trial,
722
00:51:31,630 --> 00:51:36,843
the defense provided to us an informant
who knew Jerry and who also knew Rajive.
723
00:51:38,678 --> 00:51:41,098
When Frank asked me
to testify,
724
00:51:41,181 --> 00:51:43,809
automatically, I knew my case
would have been dropped.
725
00:51:43,892 --> 00:51:46,770
So I started, like, jumping up for joy.
726
00:51:47,479 --> 00:51:51,358
I felt like I hit the lottery.
You know, that's how happy I was.
727
00:51:52,317 --> 00:51:55,237
What Jerry did was wrong,
and he needs to pay.
728
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,616
He needs to face justice.
That was my closure to move forward.
729
00:52:01,660 --> 00:52:04,955
The evidence of the conspiracy,
when we went to trial, was overwhelming.
730
00:52:05,038 --> 00:52:09,000
{\an8}We had each of the co-conspirators
testifying for the prosecution.
731
00:52:09,709 --> 00:52:13,547
{\an8}We had his ex-girlfriend Sophia Lewis
getting onto the witness stand,
732
00:52:13,630 --> 00:52:15,465
testifying against Jerry.
733
00:52:15,549 --> 00:52:19,386
The conspiracy case and the rape case
were joined as one indictment.
734
00:52:19,469 --> 00:52:21,763
Um, and that was primarily because
735
00:52:21,847 --> 00:52:25,016
in order to tell
the story of the conspiracy,
736
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:26,518
the rape was necessary.
737
00:52:26,601 --> 00:52:30,063
Uh, the rape was
the motivating factor for Jerry, uh,
738
00:52:30,147 --> 00:52:33,150
conspiring to bring false charges
against Seemona.
739
00:52:35,777 --> 00:52:38,572
Seemona was superb on the witness stand.
740
00:52:38,655 --> 00:52:41,825
She was as compelling
as any single witness
741
00:52:41,908 --> 00:52:44,536
I have ever seen testify
in a court of law.
742
00:52:45,745 --> 00:52:48,373
During her testimony, jurors were crying.
743
00:52:49,082 --> 00:52:50,625
You could hear a pin drop.
744
00:52:50,709 --> 00:52:54,212
She gave a chillingly detailed account
745
00:52:54,296 --> 00:52:56,923
of what happened
with her and the defendant.
746
00:52:58,300 --> 00:53:01,636
At the end of this case,
the jury came back with a verdict.
747
00:53:02,470 --> 00:53:05,891
It was the only time in my career
I got a standing ovation from the jury.
748
00:53:07,517 --> 00:53:11,104
The evidence showed him to be
a violent rapist,
749
00:53:12,439 --> 00:53:14,649
an evil and vindictive schemer,
750
00:53:15,775 --> 00:53:19,779
a sinister manipulator,
a diabolical conniver.
751
00:53:19,863 --> 00:53:23,283
And he deserves no mercy from me,
752
00:53:24,659 --> 00:53:25,827
and he won't get it.
753
00:53:25,911 --> 00:53:30,874
Jerry was sentenced to 25 years,
which was the maximum on the rape,
754
00:53:30,957 --> 00:53:33,877
plus seven years consecutive
for the conspiracy,
755
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,630
for a total of 32 years of incarceration.
756
00:53:39,591 --> 00:53:43,470
After he was convicted,
he made a rant as to how, you know,
757
00:53:43,553 --> 00:53:45,153
the true story was still gonna come out.
758
00:53:46,264 --> 00:53:49,434
It's fine, you know, whatever
has to happen today has to happen.
759
00:53:50,018 --> 00:53:51,686
But it's nowhere done and over.
760
00:53:52,187 --> 00:53:55,065
I maintain my innocence,
and there's more to come.
761
00:53:55,148 --> 00:53:56,441
It's not done.
762
00:53:57,984 --> 00:54:01,947
How evil someone can be
to do something like this?
763
00:54:03,448 --> 00:54:07,244
She has a kid,
and she was in jail for so long.
764
00:54:09,037 --> 00:54:13,124
And he was out there, like,
having the time of his life.
765
00:54:13,959 --> 00:54:17,254
Well, that's evil. Just pure evil.
766
00:54:21,216 --> 00:54:24,219
When I found out
that he was found guilty,
767
00:54:24,302 --> 00:54:26,304
to me, it's like, "I told you so."
768
00:54:26,388 --> 00:54:28,682
Like, I was more angry about it,
you know what I mean?
769
00:54:28,765 --> 00:54:30,850
Why... why couldn't anybody listen to me?
770
00:54:30,934 --> 00:54:35,021
Why did it have to take seven months
for us to go through this, you know?
771
00:54:35,105 --> 00:54:38,108
For me, like,
I knew it all... all... all along.
772
00:54:40,944 --> 00:54:46,491
So I decided to pursue a case against
Detective Charles and Nassau County.
773
00:54:51,663 --> 00:54:55,000
When Seemona was
arrested and interrogated,
774
00:54:55,083 --> 00:55:00,630
Detective Charles had a folder
with information about Jerry in it.
775
00:55:01,756 --> 00:55:05,510
How did they have Jerry's folder
on their desk
776
00:55:05,593 --> 00:55:10,140
if they didn't really believe
he was somehow involved with this?
777
00:55:10,807 --> 00:55:15,812
So they knew at the date of her arrest
778
00:55:15,895 --> 00:55:19,107
that Jerry may have been involved
in these cases.
779
00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:25,030
That is probably
the only time in my career
780
00:55:25,822 --> 00:55:28,033
that I've ever seen anything like that.
781
00:55:34,039 --> 00:55:38,668
In my professional opinion,
the prosecutors were asleep at the wheel.
782
00:55:39,336 --> 00:55:46,217
The detectives were bumbling buffoons,
as well as, unfortunately, dishonest.
783
00:55:47,177 --> 00:55:51,014
They knew that Jerry was
an informant with the NYPD.
784
00:55:51,097 --> 00:55:55,101
They knew that
Jerry purported to many, many people
785
00:55:55,643 --> 00:55:58,355
that he was in law enforcement
when he wasn't.
786
00:55:59,189 --> 00:56:04,486
Detectives knew you could absolutely not
trust a word that came out of his mouth.
787
00:56:04,569 --> 00:56:08,907
He would tell you with a straight face
it's Sunday when it was Monday.
788
00:56:09,741 --> 00:56:15,622
And failure to really investigate him
and look into this further
789
00:56:15,705 --> 00:56:17,957
was just pure malfeasance.
790
00:56:35,892 --> 00:56:38,603
I never said,
"Oh, I wanted x amount."
791
00:56:38,686 --> 00:56:42,357
I never relayed that to anybody else
or "I deserve that amount."
792
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,359
I just wanted to win, I think.
793
00:56:44,859 --> 00:56:48,113
Admit that you all were
way out of line and wrong
794
00:56:48,988 --> 00:56:51,408
because I didn't want
to have to go to testify,
795
00:56:51,491 --> 00:56:53,701
have Chiara go to testify.
796
00:56:53,785 --> 00:56:56,454
Any settlement
they probably would have gave me,
797
00:56:56,538 --> 00:56:59,249
I probably would have just said yes to,
just for it to be over.
798
00:57:01,459 --> 00:57:05,880
So yes, that was a relief, and I couldn't
have asked for a better outcome.
69706
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