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[newscaster 1] Over the next hour,
we'll unveil the ten players
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who will represent America
in the 1992 Olympics.
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There's been much speculation
about who will play and who won't.
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I was already thinking about
what my next move was going to be
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when Commissioner Stern called me
and said,
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"Hey, Earvin.
We want you to play in the Olympics."
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[newscaster 2]
If you're going to put together a team,
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you should start with a great team leader.
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And who better than a player who has led
his team to five NBA championships?
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Magic Johnson.
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[Magic] I got so excited,
so we talked about that.
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And then he said,
"But we're having one problem."
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And I said, "What is that?"
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"Larry and Michael."
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Yeah, I called Larry, and I said,
"Listen, LB. This is our last hurrah.
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We gotta play, man. You gotta play."
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[Bird]
I told him I probably wouldn't do it.
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I'm just trying
to get through this season.
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I don't know if I can make it.
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[Magic] He said,
"Earvin, my back," and "I don't know."
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I said, "All you have to do
is go stand in the corner
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or stand at the top of the key.
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You don't have to do nothing else.
I'm gonna get you the ball.
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You just shoot it and make it."
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[chuckles]
"You can still do that, can't you?"
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"Oh, I can do that
with my eyes closed, yeah."
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I gotta do it.
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Whether I can play or not,
I gotta be on that team.
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[Magic] Finally, he said yes.
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And then the hard one was Michael.
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[audience member] Michael, I was wondering
if you made a definite decision
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on whether you will or will not play
in those Olympics?
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Uh, I would love to do it,
but I think it w-would take so much away
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from what I have to do
for the Chicago Bulls.
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So right now,
I-- I don't think I'm gonna participate.
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Well, I said, "Listen, man.
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It's been on my bucket list
to play with you and Larry.
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And we're going to have fun
being with each other
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'cause we've never really hung out
like that."
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I had to work on him some,
but finally he said yes.
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[Bay] The Dream Team.
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A basketball machine with names like
Magic and Michael and Ewing and Bird.
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The NBA's best.
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It was electric because that star power.
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The world went crazy.
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[crowd cheering]
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He brought Showtime to Barcelona.
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[crowd cheering]
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Magic! Magic!
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[Magic] I never wanted them
to think like they had to carry me,
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the other nine guys.
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And so, the practices was probably
the best basketball I've ever played
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in-- in my life.
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He's like the baby-faced assassin.
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That was like a dogfight every single day.
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He wanted to prove that he was back.
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I wanted to prove to him
that there's new kids on the block.
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We spent a lot of time together,
and I think it bonded all of us together.
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I was in Barcelona playing cards
with Magic, Charles Barkley and MJ.
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It was just like a bunch
of brothers talking shit.
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'Cause Michael is probably
the greatest shit-talker of all time,
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and Magic was not having any of it.
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[Magic] Here's these two competitive guys
who didn't want to lose.
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We were gonna play.
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We're gonna play hard,
and I was coming in there to win.
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A dream team for America.
A nightmare for its opposition.
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[crowd cheering]
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[Magic] If we can maintain
this level of intensity,
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then we feel that we have
a-- a great chance to win.
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There's no doubt Magic added
that little special sauce
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to the '92 Olympic team.
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[commentator] They have, as expected,
won the gold here in Barcelona.
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I needed the Dream Team
to validate into my own mind that,
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"Hey, Earvin, you're gonna be okay.
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You're gonna be here for a long time.
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You can still play. Your body is okay."
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Because by then
I had adjusted to the medicine.
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He was giving confidence
to tens of millions of people
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who had a similar diagnosis,
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who would see Magic out there playing
at an incredibly high level.
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And so during that time,
that-- that period,
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Magic had begun a discussion with David
about his desire to return to the league.
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When you leave sports,
it's really not about the games.
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It's about you're one of the guys.
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And I needed to be one of the guys
one more time.
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[Brokaw] It was less than a year ago
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it seemed that we'd seen the last
of Magic Johnson on the basketball floor.
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The Lakers star was retiring
because of the virus that causes AIDS.
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But then Magic on the Dream Team,
an Olympic gold medal
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and now Magic back in the NBA.
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[Magic] I didn't go out
the way I wanted to go out,
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and that's not the perfect ending.
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John Wayne always rode out
the way he wanna ride out.
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That's John Wayne's way.
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[sighs] Finally.
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This is a great day for me.
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Been working extremely hard
to, uh, come back,
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and, uh, I'm just happy to be back, um…
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So, that's all I have to say. [laughs]
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For selfish reasons, I wanted him to play.
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You know, we had a chance
of winning it again with Magic.
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We can get back to the Finals.
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To come out again leading the Lakers
out like old times. [chuckles]
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Right now it's sending chills up my spine,
right now just talking about it.
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[Rosen] But it was controversial
when Earvin came back.
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There was players all over the league
that didn't feel comfortable.
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Karl Malone came out publicly.
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If I get in a collision with a guy--
It don't have to be Magic.
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It could be Joe Schmo.
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But the fact of the matter is,
if you got the AIDS virus,
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it'll be hard for me to play as hard
as I'm capable of playing.
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And if people can't respect
my decision, that's tough.
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For such a prominent player
to make those remarks
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were really difficult to get past.
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[Magic] Man, I just played with Karl.
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We did the All-Star Game,
now we did the Dream Team,
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and now you've got an issue playing
against me during the regular season?
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It was sort of like he stabbed me
in the back.
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Now you have this huge distraction.
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We go to North Carolina
to play a preseason game,
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and unfortunately,
he gets this fingernail scratch.
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There's a time-out.
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And when he comes to the bench,
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I look up and all eyes
and cameras are upon me.
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[Scott]
I could see the look on players' face
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where they wasn't comfortable.
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You could see guys' whole demeanor change.
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The nonverbal communication
that's going on in that particular moment,
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and you're like,
"Why is everyone staring?"
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I remember hearing the reporters saying,
"Oh, my God. Oh, my God."
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You know, "Magic got scratched."
You know, "He's bleeding."
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Um, "What are they gonna do?"
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[Vitti]
I have the gloves in my back pocket.
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We have a protocol. I wrote the protocol.
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There's no way
that I could put these gloves on.
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Putting the gloves on would be
the epitome of a mixed message
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'cause we're telling you,
you can't get it from him.
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So if you can't get it,
then why are you putting the gloves on?
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[Magic]
You could see the fear upon people face,
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and it just keep on
drawing attention to it.
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So, it's just too much.
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It's gonna happen all year long.
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Magic Johnson's comeback
is over before it began.
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The basketball superstar said today
that he is retiring for good
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because of the controversy
over his decision to play
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while infected with the AIDS virus.
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There had been so much bad press.
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The joy was gone,
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but I felt for Magic 'cause
he still had basketball left to play.
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You said when you were here
that God created you to play basketball.
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I don't know now what you think
about that statement.
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I would think this is very disappointing
for you.
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People don't understand
this what we as young kids--
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I mean, it's all we thought about,
you know, was basketball.
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And that was our whole life at the time.
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[Wallace] You said that you wanted
to go out like John Wayne.
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-Yeah.
-You wanted to do it your way.
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Exactly.
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Now you're not gonna get that chance.
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The perfect ending
would've been me playing this season.
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But my movie will have no ending.
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Man, I tell you, Cookie and I,
we'd been together on and off
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since we were 18 years old,
and now we're married.
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Now we're about to have a baby.
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We had Andre.
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Her and Andre have a-- a special bond.
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And then, you know, it was
just a special moment for us.
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When you think about
the Johnson family was about to expand.
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[Albert] Magic, the vital statistics
for Earvin Johnson III,
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seven pounds, 15 ounces.
Congratulations.
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Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it.
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[Cookie] When EJ was born,
it was just such a relief to me
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because they always just said,
"From what we understand with the disease
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if the mother doesn't have it,
the baby doesn't have it."
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But in the back of your mind,
you're wondering,
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"Is he gonna come out okay?
Is he gonna look okay?"
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You know, "Will he be sick?"
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And he came out,
and he was just beautiful.
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And he was super healthy
and a big blessing for us.
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Sup.
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-[Oprah] Hey, you look good.
-Mmm.
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-Stop.
-[Oprah] Bring him out. Earvin III.
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Magic says this in the book--
Oh, he's just so funny.
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When the baby was coming,
Magic was in the room,
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and Cookie was pushing.
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And when he saw the head come out--
What did you do?
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I-- I told everybody, "Stop."
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-[audience laughing]
-He did.
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And they look around,
"What's wrong? What's wrong?"
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I said, "I gotta have my baby born
to Luther Vandross."
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[audience laughs]
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Even though we had a new baby,
and Earvin was really great,
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what was hard was
there was a little sense of being lost.
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I'm not playing the game that I love,
and that hurt me.
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Not being a part of the locker room,
not being a part of the bus ride,
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not going to war
every single night with my guys.
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I'm consumed with basketball.
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I'm consumed with being the best.
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I'm consumed with winning championships
my whole life.
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[West] The only thing he knew
was to compete in basketball.
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What does this genius with a ball
in his hand want to do with his life,
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in the prime of his career as a player,
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what's he gonna do to satisfy
that passion to play this game?
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[Thomas]
Those were our conversations daily.
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Who are you, and what are you going to be?
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Because you just can't be this.
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[Magic]
I just had to take a step back and say,
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"Hey, Earvin.
Okay, let me try to figure it out."
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I grew up poor,
but I didn't have poor dreams.
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I was always dreaming outside my zip code,
outside my area code,
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outside my community.
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When I was growing up,
this famous Camay commercial
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used to come on TV all the time.
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Some girls think it's enough to be clean.
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I like to feel more than clean.
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[Magic] They had this big round bathtub,
and I said,
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"I'm gonna have that bathtub one day."
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I used to tell everybody that.
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They said, "Boy, you crazy."
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You know, as little kids,
you're just like, "Boy, shut up.
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You ain't gonna,
you know, h-have that tub."
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Or, "You ain't gonna do this or you--
How you gonna do that?"
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Because you didn't-- you didn't see it.
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And the people that you saw
that did have it didn't look like us.
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[Ferguson] Lansing was like--
If you saw the movie The Help.
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Let's give a nice round of applause
for the help.
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[applause]
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We were at the country club
as young people working
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and we end up teasing each other because,
uh, he worked inside shining shoes,
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and I worked outside caddying
and so forth.
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And, uh, he later told me that I was, uh,
a field hand,
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and, uh, he worked in the big house.
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This is how Lansing was.
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[Magic] But you know what?
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I've always dreamed big.
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When I said I was gonna do something,
I did it.
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And whatever it-- it was that I wanted,
my father said, "You gotta work for it."
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And my father worked at General Motors,
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and he worked two or three jobs
all the time.
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He would work at Shell's gas station,
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and then he would go to General Motors
for eight hours that-- that night.
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[Magic] He had a trash hauling service,
so we would go pick up people's trash.
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My brothers, they were kind of embarrassed
when they had to work on the truck
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'cause their friends would see us,
you know.
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We used to be ashamed.
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Our friends back then as kids,
you know, always pick on 857
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because that was the number
on the side of the truck.
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And I got in a lot of fights behind that,
you know, but--
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I didn't care if my friends saw me
on the truck.
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I just cared about hanging with my father.
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You know, he was my idol.
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[Eaton] I was a block and a half from 'em,
so I watched him come up
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from when he was almost born, I guess.
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He learned a lot from his dad.
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And-- And the values that Earvin has
in his life are his parents'.
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[Magic]
I remember this like it was yesterday.
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I said, "Hey, Dad, I'd like some money.
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Godzilla is playing at the theater."
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And everybody in the neighborhood
wanted to go see Godzilla
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at the movie theater downtown.
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And he said,
"I don't have a dollar to give you."
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He said, "But come with me."
I said, "Okay."
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So I followed my father to the garage,
and he said,
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"Meet Mr. Shovel, Mr. Rake
and Mr. Lawn Mower."
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I said--
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He said, "Now, if you want a dollar,
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you go use one of those tools
to go make a dollar."
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I would pray for the snow to come
in Lansing, Michigan,
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so I could go out and make some money.
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So I was always hustling
in the neighborhood some kind of way.
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You know,
I-I was always in business all his life.
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He's never knew me
when I wasn't in business.
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Uh, Earvin would work with him
in the summertime.
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A little part-time job
for, uh, Greg Eaton.
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Earvin came on time
and left when everything was--
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that you asked him to do was completed.
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He-- He doesn't know how to "half do."
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Um, we would, you know, dump the trash,
kind of straighten up the office.
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And, uh, I remember vividly that, uh,
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Earvin would go, uh, sit at the desk.
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Would put his feet up on the desk.
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That's when he was at my desk
with his feet up on my desk
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when I come in.
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And I go, "What is this?"
"Oh, I'm playing you.
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I'm being you right now."
[chuckling] We laughed.
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And he really kind of envisioned himself
being a businessman.
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That was the thing he used to talk about
all the time
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when we would be talking about
what we're gonna do after basketball.
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We used to sit on the back of the bus.
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And they said,
"Buck, what do you wanna be?"
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'Cause they used to call me Buck.
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I said, "I'm gonna own my own business
and be a businessman."
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But at the same time,
I didn't know even where to start.
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And so Dr. Jerry Buss,
he was the first call I made,
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and I went to see him.
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He wanted to know,
"What you want to do besides basketball?"
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He always asked me that.
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He said, "Earvin, what's--
what's your goals? What's your dreams?"
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And then, "How are you going
to accomplish that goal or dream?
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What's your strategy
to get to where you wanna go?"
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Earvin had this plan that, you know,
"I'm going to use my fame
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and meet people in the business world."
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[operator] A/B common mark.
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There were people that taught him
a lot about business,
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and he would take their knowledge.
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Jerry Buss taught him
a lot about business.
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Michael Ovitz taught him
a lot about business.
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And when we met Michael Ovitz,
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he really schooled Earvin
in a lot of things.
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[Ovitz] He came in, and he sat there.
And we talked about what he could do.
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To his credit, he started the conversation
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by saying, "I want to not be 40,
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retired athlete with nothing to do
and open a few car dealerships.
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I want to be in business."
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And I told him it was a real uphill fight.
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The first thing I did
is I got him subscriptions
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to The Wall Street Journal, to Fortune,
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to BusinessWeek, to Forbes.
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[Rosen] It was a learning period for him.
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W-We'd call up, you know,
the head of Coca-Cola.
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"Hey, can we meet with you?
Magic Johnson wants to meet with you."
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And "I want to meet
with the head of PepsiCo."
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We'll meet with Pepsi. And meet with--
He did this around the country.
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[Chenault] He would call me periodically,
ask for advice.
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What Earvin said is, "There are
a set of skills that I have to acquire.
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And I have to take the time
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and have to demonstrate the dedication
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to learn those skills."
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[Ovitz] But I think Earvin
was always sensitive
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to the fact that he was
a superstar in sports.
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And I think that he thought
that his image in sports
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overwhelmed what he might
be able to do in business.
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And I think that deep down
he was always worried
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that he'd never be taken seriously.
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He'd be looked at as a jock.
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[Magic] It was a hard adjustment.
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People don't understand this
about an athlete.
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Every single day, your day is mapped out.
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So now there's nobody there
to tell me to do something.
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You know, it's all, "Okay."
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I-- I didn't have purpose.
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The Lakers were my purpose,
and I needed to pour my energy,
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uh, and my passion and love
into something other than basketball.
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So I needed to know, uh,
how to get started
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and-- and, uh, what direction to go in.
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[crowd cheering]
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[sports commentator] We're live here
at the Great Western Forum.
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[Cookie]
I remember being at a game at The Forum.
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Earvin and I had went
to the game that night.
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[sports commentator]
Earvin "Magic" Johnson.
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[Cookie] The game was over,
we're about to go home
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and they make a huge announcement.
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You cannot leave the sta-stadium.
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[announcer]
…heading towards the Culver City area.
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[commentator]
The crowd has gotten very still now,
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and I'll tell you why.
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They've got some riots going on
around the city of Los Angeles.
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Quite close to The Forum,
within about two miles.
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[Cookie] And I remember they said,
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"There has been a riot that broke--
has broken out close to here.
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We would advise no one leave the stadium
at this time
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until we can find out
if it's safe to leave."
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When they finally let us out,
Earvin put us in the car,
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and as we're driving,
yeah, my heart just sank.
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[Rather] The jury
in the Los Angeles police brutality trial
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has just reached its verdicts
this evening.
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The four police officers
who were videotaped
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repeatedly beating an unarmed man
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were found not guilty
on all but one count.
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We were dead center
in the middle of Los Angeles.
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We were dead in the middle of the riots.
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And looking back at it…
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[sirens wailing]
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…every action causes a reaction.
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And we, for so long, have never reacted.
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We've always turned the other cheek
and accepted it,
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and that was our day to say, "Fuck that."
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[Magic] When I think about Rodney King
and the rioting--
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And what I didn't like
is that we tore up our own community.
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The Black community, you know,
we set our own businesses on fire,
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and that hurt South Central, Compton.
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It hurt so many communities.
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[community member]
Not only were the stores burned,
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but the jobs were lost.
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I saw employees coming to work
in a lot of these places
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and standing there in tears
because their jobs were not there.
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A lot of the Black leaders
started calling me saying,
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"Hey, we need you.
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You've got the biggest voice,
so people will listen to you.
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So you got to get involved."
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The whole segment of the population
that have been left out,
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left behind and just lip service, uh--
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Done a little here, a little there,
uh, will not matter.
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Uh, we need to do much more.
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[Magic] That was the start of something
for me that had to change.
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I said, "Okay, I gotta build my business
in urban America."
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If you don't make a difference
in the Black community,
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that doesn't matter
that you winning all those championships.
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So, we gotta go out and, um, you know,
ask people to now start rebuilding.
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[older Magic]
I said, "You know what's going to help me?
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I gotta get a office."
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Now I'm going to the office every day.
I'm back on schedule again.
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[Brown] I remember my first interview
like it was yesterday.
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I walked right into his office actually,
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and immediately he was Earvin Johnson.
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He was no longer Magic Johnson.
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That was left on the court.
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Earvin, he saw something in me
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that I actually didn't recognize
in myself.
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And he saw the way I spoke about
the community in which I-- I grew up.
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I grew up in, um, South Central LA.
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I was living in LA during the riots
and, uh, it was all around me.
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I could walk out the door and see flames.
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But, uh, I loved my neighborhood,
loved the community, and--
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Even though it was tough.
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00:23:24,905 --> 00:23:27,783
The neighborhood where I grew up
was definitely underserved.
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There were no major coffee shops.
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There were no first-rate movie theaters.
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[Magic]
We saw how, uh, the Black community
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as well as the Latino community,
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always the first thing they wanted to do
was be able to take their-- their families
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to a movie,
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and that's the most affordable thing
that they could still do.
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But we had to drive outside our community
to go to the movies.
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You're talking about 30, 40 minutes
just to go to a first-run movie theater.
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Films, movies have always been
a part of my life with Cookie.
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That's our-- One of our first dates were
at the movie.
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And it's funny.
To this day that's, like, our date night.
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To go to the movies on Friday nights.
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[Magic] I met with Ken Lombard.
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Ken, he had the expertise
in the theater business.
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Earvin made it clear that he loved
the movie theater side of the business,
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and this was something
that he had interest in.
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And so this was going to be
my first big investment of my own money.
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[Lombard] It was an opportunity
for us to get in a lane,
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build a business
around the minority communities
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that really no one was doing at the time.
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I walked out of that meeting,
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um, convinced
that Earvin was the right partner.
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[paparazzi] Peter! Peter!
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[Guber] He came with Ken Lombard.
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They said, "But, hey, we know
that you're in the exhibition business,
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and you wanna be where audiences are.
444
00:24:52,367 --> 00:24:57,080
Well, we know a country where moviegoing
is the first most important priority
445
00:24:57,706 --> 00:24:58,790
for those people.
446
00:24:58,874 --> 00:25:02,419
And it's a really progressive
and dynamic moviegoing audience,
447
00:25:02,503 --> 00:25:04,671
and you can make a ton of money."
448
00:25:04,755 --> 00:25:06,548
So I think,
"That's exactly what I wanted to hear."
449
00:25:06,632 --> 00:25:08,509
'Cause we were expanding around the world.
450
00:25:08,592 --> 00:25:10,802
I said, "S-So where do we have to go?"
451
00:25:10,886 --> 00:25:12,721
He said,
"Five miles from here to Baldwin Hills."
452
00:25:14,806 --> 00:25:20,604
You could merge economic necessity,
economic desire, creative opportunity
453
00:25:20,687 --> 00:25:22,564
and purposefulness in the community.
454
00:25:22,648 --> 00:25:24,525
That was a very powerful statement.
455
00:25:25,317 --> 00:25:26,735
And I really did this, he'll tell you.
456
00:25:26,818 --> 00:25:28,612
I reached across the table,
I said, "I'm in."
457
00:25:33,116 --> 00:25:36,245
[Magic]
We knew what everybody else was thinking.
458
00:25:37,704 --> 00:25:39,665
It's in the middle
of the Bloods and the Crips.
459
00:25:39,748 --> 00:25:43,043
It kinda sits in the junction
of a number of different gang lands
460
00:25:43,126 --> 00:25:47,214
that go from Rollin' 60s,
further down Crenshaw to the Jungle,
461
00:25:47,297 --> 00:25:48,966
which is the P. Stones.
462
00:25:49,716 --> 00:25:53,136
[Magic]
One incident could destroy our business.
463
00:25:53,220 --> 00:25:56,390
And everybody was thinking
that it was going to happen.
464
00:25:56,473 --> 00:25:59,768
That's what really made me mad,
so I had to prove them wrong.
465
00:25:59,852 --> 00:26:02,896
And so I said, "Ken, call the heads.
466
00:26:02,980 --> 00:26:06,775
I want to have breakfast with both heads
of the Crips and heads of the Bloods."
467
00:26:06,859 --> 00:26:09,152
He said, "Okay. You sure?"
468
00:26:09,236 --> 00:26:10,404
And I said, "Yeah."
469
00:26:10,487 --> 00:26:11,697
[Lombard] We went.
470
00:26:11,780 --> 00:26:14,116
And I had about six or seven guys with me.
471
00:26:14,199 --> 00:26:16,118
They showed up with about 35 people.
472
00:26:16,910 --> 00:26:20,372
[Magic] I said, "I'm not here
to disrespect either one of you.
473
00:26:20,455 --> 00:26:21,915
What I'm here for is to say,
474
00:26:21,999 --> 00:26:27,546
this theater is gonna help
the entire Black community.
475
00:26:28,213 --> 00:26:29,840
I want you to come.
476
00:26:29,923 --> 00:26:31,425
I want your family to come.
477
00:26:31,508 --> 00:26:37,598
But you guys got to agree
that we can't have violence
478
00:26:37,681 --> 00:26:40,267
outside or inside that theater.
479
00:26:41,018 --> 00:26:42,477
And I'm creating jobs.
480
00:26:42,561 --> 00:26:46,732
So if you guys got some guys
who want to work, I will employ them."
481
00:26:47,774 --> 00:26:48,859
Everyone respected him.
482
00:26:48,942 --> 00:26:50,903
No one knew him as a businessman,
of course,
483
00:26:50,986 --> 00:26:52,613
but they respected everything about it.
484
00:26:52,696 --> 00:26:55,574
And-- And in LA, you know,
all these guys are basketball fans
485
00:26:55,657 --> 00:26:56,658
or Laker fans.
486
00:26:56,742 --> 00:26:59,536
So they obviously, you know,
they-- they loved Earvin.
487
00:26:59,620 --> 00:27:01,538
And then we were off to the races.
488
00:27:01,622 --> 00:27:04,750
Before Magic started,
um, building theaters,
489
00:27:04,833 --> 00:27:07,503
I didn't give two shakes
from a rat's rectum about it.
490
00:27:07,586 --> 00:27:11,798
Now Magic becomes a hero
because he lives up to his word.
491
00:27:12,591 --> 00:27:17,804
Giving jobs to people that, you know,
were-- were-- were written off
492
00:27:17,888 --> 00:27:21,099
in some aspect was-- It was-- It was huge.
493
00:27:21,183 --> 00:27:23,894
Movies may play a big role
in our popular culture,
494
00:27:23,977 --> 00:27:27,105
but in some of our neighborhoods,
they play no role at all.
495
00:27:27,189 --> 00:27:30,234
But thanks to some movie magic,
that's changing.
496
00:27:30,692 --> 00:27:33,529
This is a movie complex
built by Magic Johnson,
497
00:27:33,612 --> 00:27:36,073
right in the center
of the Crenshaw District in LA.
498
00:27:36,156 --> 00:27:37,699
[crowd cheering]
499
00:27:37,783 --> 00:27:40,911
[Brown] The opening was a celebration.
500
00:27:40,994 --> 00:27:42,162
I lived around the corner.
501
00:27:42,246 --> 00:27:44,456
The-- The entire neighborhood was going.
502
00:27:45,165 --> 00:27:49,044
We got big, big, big, big screens
503
00:27:49,795 --> 00:27:53,882
stadium seating, you got popcorn shrimp,
504
00:27:53,966 --> 00:27:56,426
chicken and some hot sauce.
505
00:27:59,304 --> 00:28:01,557
And the whole thing.
Oh, they're gonna tear it up.
506
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,477
They go-- It's gonna be a lot of shooting,
a lot of fighting, you know.
507
00:28:05,561 --> 00:28:06,895
That never happened.
508
00:28:07,479 --> 00:28:11,984
We were able to dispel a lot of myths
about the Black customer.
509
00:28:12,067 --> 00:28:14,528
[McIntyre] This is Magic Johnson's
newest movie theater.
510
00:28:14,611 --> 00:28:16,405
He's got three or four of 'em
all over the country.
511
00:28:16,488 --> 00:28:19,783
Atlanta, Los Angeles, Houston,
and this is the latest one right here
512
00:28:19,867 --> 00:28:21,618
in North Randall,
the greater Cleveland area.
513
00:28:21,702 --> 00:28:24,955
There were no movies in Central Harlem.
514
00:28:25,038 --> 00:28:27,666
Now we have nine screens here.
515
00:28:27,749 --> 00:28:30,836
[newscaster 1] Another benefit
is that 80% of the theater's staff
516
00:28:30,919 --> 00:28:33,422
lives in the neighborhood it serves.
517
00:28:33,505 --> 00:28:35,883
And it wasn't about money.
518
00:28:35,966 --> 00:28:37,426
It was about change.
519
00:28:37,509 --> 00:28:40,762
Changing the community
and revitalizing that community
520
00:28:40,846 --> 00:28:43,348
i-in a different way
that I had ever seen before.
521
00:28:44,892 --> 00:28:47,769
Once the theaters was successful
522
00:28:47,853 --> 00:28:51,648
and people, they had their, you know,
magnifying glasses, uh, out,
523
00:28:51,732 --> 00:28:54,151
looking like, "Is this is really going
to work in these communities?
524
00:28:54,234 --> 00:28:55,694
Are you sure it's gonna work?"
525
00:28:55,777 --> 00:28:59,281
And not only did it work,
but it expanded quickly.
526
00:28:59,364 --> 00:29:02,993
And from the theaters came Starbucks.
527
00:29:06,496 --> 00:29:09,583
I think I was in New York,
and I saw this line.
528
00:29:09,666 --> 00:29:13,212
And I saw the Starbucks, but I didn't know
what it was, you know, at that time.
529
00:29:13,295 --> 00:29:16,673
I said, "Them people waiting in line
for coffee?"
530
00:29:17,633 --> 00:29:19,843
And this is Black people in line too.
531
00:29:19,927 --> 00:29:22,262
Man, I'm sitting there. I'm saying, "Wow.
532
00:29:22,346 --> 00:29:25,724
This may be the next thing I gotta do."
533
00:29:25,807 --> 00:29:28,685
[newscaster] Meet the guy
you could call the new Mr. Coffee.
534
00:29:28,769 --> 00:29:32,731
Howard Schultz, the CEO of Starbucks
and the brains behind the brew.
535
00:29:32,814 --> 00:29:35,234
You go to a city like New York City,
and you're quite amazed
536
00:29:35,317 --> 00:29:37,152
that a city as sophisticated as New York
537
00:29:37,236 --> 00:29:39,071
with great food and great art,
538
00:29:39,154 --> 00:29:40,614
you can't get a good cup of coffee.
539
00:29:40,697 --> 00:29:41,698
I was a little suspect.
540
00:29:41,782 --> 00:29:44,451
You know, what could Magic
do with Starbucks
541
00:29:44,535 --> 00:29:48,330
that would be significant
and authentic and relevant?
542
00:29:48,413 --> 00:29:53,961
And so, I think at the time, I was just
intrigued to meet Magic Johnson.
543
00:29:54,044 --> 00:29:55,879
The question was,
544
00:29:55,963 --> 00:29:59,466
if you put a Starbucks in South Central LA
are people gonna spend four dollars?
545
00:29:59,550 --> 00:30:02,636
And Earvin's response was, "We buy Gucci."
546
00:30:02,719 --> 00:30:05,973
Anytime that somebody is skeptical,
547
00:30:06,056 --> 00:30:08,392
and Howard was,
uh, and he had a reason to be,
548
00:30:08,475 --> 00:30:10,143
you've got to take 'em to the deal.
549
00:30:11,395 --> 00:30:15,691
So Waiting to Exhale, Whitney Houston's
first movie, was coming out.
550
00:30:15,774 --> 00:30:18,569
Howard Schultz decided
he wanted to come down on that Friday.
551
00:30:18,652 --> 00:30:20,612
And I tell you, he was shocked.
552
00:30:20,696 --> 00:30:21,947
It was crazy.
553
00:30:22,030 --> 00:30:25,200
I mean, a thousand people
showed up in the lobby.
554
00:30:25,284 --> 00:30:27,286
[Magic chuckles]
You know, he looked at the line.
555
00:30:27,369 --> 00:30:32,708
He looked at all the conversations
going on around the concession stand.
556
00:30:32,791 --> 00:30:35,043
He's seeing us spending a lot of money.
557
00:30:35,127 --> 00:30:37,254
He said, "Let's go inside."
I said, "Okay."
558
00:30:37,337 --> 00:30:42,801
The movie starts, and of course,
Whitney's having problems with her man.
559
00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:45,012
I mean, so, what do you think, Robin?
560
00:30:45,095 --> 00:30:49,016
I've loved this man forever,
and now that we've got another chance,
561
00:30:49,099 --> 00:30:51,935
I don't wanna blow it by making him think
I don't have any faith in him.
562
00:30:52,019 --> 00:30:55,355
Every woman and their girl,
"Dump him. Why you still with him?"
563
00:30:55,439 --> 00:30:56,773
You know, they're talking to the screen.
564
00:30:56,857 --> 00:31:00,068
This audience was heavily engaged,
565
00:31:00,694 --> 00:31:03,155
uh, viscerally with the movie.
566
00:31:03,238 --> 00:31:07,534
And Magic was encouraging the fact,
"Look what's going on here.
567
00:31:07,618 --> 00:31:10,829
This is happening
because we're giving people a platform
568
00:31:10,913 --> 00:31:12,581
to interact with the movie.
569
00:31:12,664 --> 00:31:17,503
And this is the community that I want
to create with you at Starbucks."
570
00:31:17,586 --> 00:31:20,297
Starbucks is expanding
with a little bit of a "magic" touch.
571
00:31:20,380 --> 00:31:22,633
The popular company
is teaming up with Magic Johnson
572
00:31:22,716 --> 00:31:25,177
to put new locations in neighborhoods
across the country.
573
00:31:25,761 --> 00:31:26,929
Lo and behold, it turns out
574
00:31:27,012 --> 00:31:29,473
that Black folks drink coffee too,
575
00:31:29,556 --> 00:31:32,351
and they watch an awful lot of movies.
576
00:31:32,434 --> 00:31:33,769
Are we ready?
577
00:31:33,852 --> 00:31:35,354
[Obama] It wasn't charity.
578
00:31:35,437 --> 00:31:38,190
In fact, it could do
very well for investors.
579
00:31:43,946 --> 00:31:46,949
[Magic] All the things that I was
on the basketball court,
580
00:31:47,032 --> 00:31:48,742
I am as a businessman.
581
00:31:48,825 --> 00:31:51,954
Discipline, focus, building a strategy,
582
00:31:52,037 --> 00:31:54,164
execution, excellence.
583
00:31:54,248 --> 00:31:55,624
[people in street cheering]
584
00:31:55,707 --> 00:31:59,670
Earvin constantly focused
on always wanting to get better.
585
00:31:59,753 --> 00:32:01,713
We gotta keep growing.
We gotta keep doing.
586
00:32:01,797 --> 00:32:04,341
He's gobbling up one of LA's
oldest hamburger chains.
587
00:32:04,424 --> 00:32:06,426
Yeah, Fatburger. Yes.
588
00:32:06,510 --> 00:32:07,511
[Magic] Yeah.
589
00:32:07,594 --> 00:32:09,555
[newscaster 3] With a snip of a ribbon,
another new business.
590
00:32:09,638 --> 00:32:12,015
A 24 Hour Fitness gym near Oakland,
591
00:32:12,099 --> 00:32:15,227
the latest Magic Johnson investment
in urban neighborhoods.
592
00:32:16,061 --> 00:32:20,899
We found out that there was a shortage
of housing and retail in urban America.
593
00:32:20,983 --> 00:32:22,985
So let's do something about it.
594
00:32:23,068 --> 00:32:26,446
This project is not only gonna be
a great project,
595
00:32:26,530 --> 00:32:28,448
but a much-needed project.
596
00:32:28,532 --> 00:32:31,660
[Lombard] The primary goal was,
uh, real estate opportunities
597
00:32:31,743 --> 00:32:33,745
in minority communities
across the country.
598
00:32:34,413 --> 00:32:36,540
[Magic] Well, institutional capital
was not ready.
599
00:32:36,623 --> 00:32:39,042
We got more noes than yeses.
600
00:32:39,126 --> 00:32:42,296
But we proved everybody wrong.
601
00:32:43,589 --> 00:32:46,049
Brand new buildings right in the hood.
602
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,179
Condominiums on top
and retail on the bottom.
603
00:32:50,262 --> 00:32:53,432
[Lombard] Everyone could see
what we were trying to do,
604
00:32:53,515 --> 00:32:55,100
and we were beginning to pull it off.
605
00:32:55,184 --> 00:32:58,854
We're going to become
the most significant development company
606
00:32:58,937 --> 00:33:01,273
in minority communities
across the country.
607
00:33:01,356 --> 00:33:04,568
Well, now he's doing no-look passes
with real estate funds
608
00:33:04,651 --> 00:33:07,821
and no-look passes
with shopping centers and franchises.
609
00:33:07,905 --> 00:33:11,366
Somebody said that Magic Johnson
is reinventing inner-city business.
610
00:33:12,242 --> 00:33:16,538
[Brown] He was looking for people
that had the same drive, the same vision,
611
00:33:16,622 --> 00:33:21,251
and was not afraid to work overtime
and over-deliver.
612
00:33:22,127 --> 00:33:25,547
This is a man that wakes up
at 4:00 in the morning
613
00:33:25,631 --> 00:33:28,592
and he has this work ethic
that he lives by.
614
00:33:28,675 --> 00:33:30,135
[Brown] You had to get there early.
615
00:33:30,219 --> 00:33:32,054
We worked through lunch.
616
00:33:32,137 --> 00:33:34,556
We worked Saturday and Sunday.
617
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,351
There wasn't a Saturday or Sunday
that I didn't go in the office
618
00:33:37,434 --> 00:33:40,604
for maybe 15 straight years.
619
00:33:40,687 --> 00:33:42,189
[newscaster] With his playing days
behind him,
620
00:33:42,272 --> 00:33:44,358
Johnson turned his focus
to the business world.
621
00:33:44,441 --> 00:33:48,362
He's now involved in movie theaters,
restaurants, shopping centers,
622
00:33:48,445 --> 00:33:50,531
Starbucks and real estate.
623
00:33:50,614 --> 00:33:53,992
An empire valued
at nearly half a billion dollars.
624
00:33:54,076 --> 00:33:57,788
Earvin wanted to do a lot. [sighs]
625
00:34:00,165 --> 00:34:04,336
And so I was always concerned
that we were trying to do too much.
626
00:34:05,629 --> 00:34:08,215
And he's only one person.
627
00:34:16,681 --> 00:34:18,725
[Cookie] Earvin and I
always talked about having kids.
628
00:34:18,809 --> 00:34:20,393
This is way before we got married.
629
00:34:20,476 --> 00:34:25,190
And we always said that we wanted to have
a big family 'cause he had a big family.
630
00:34:26,358 --> 00:34:27,609
But at that time,
631
00:34:27,693 --> 00:34:33,031
there wasn't a lot of knowledge
about HIV patients and having children.
632
00:34:33,114 --> 00:34:36,702
And so we were advised
not to try on our own.
633
00:34:37,953 --> 00:34:39,871
[Magic] You know, having two boys
634
00:34:39,955 --> 00:34:43,917
and knowing that Cookie and I
wasn't having any more kids ourselves,
635
00:34:44,543 --> 00:34:47,462
uh, we both decided to adopt.
636
00:34:48,422 --> 00:34:52,259
This beautiful baby came into our lives.
637
00:34:54,261 --> 00:34:57,431
[Cookie] She came home,
and I had EJ there. And I'm like,
638
00:34:57,514 --> 00:35:00,642
"EJ, look. This is your new baby sister."
639
00:35:00,726 --> 00:35:04,396
Then he was like,
"Oh, that's so cute. She's so sweet.
640
00:35:04,479 --> 00:35:06,064
Now take her back."
641
00:35:08,025 --> 00:35:11,236
Earvin kind of kicked in with the kids
when they became toddlers,
642
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,739
when they were
a little more agile for him.
643
00:35:15,866 --> 00:35:19,453
He was very busy.
He had to get up and go to work.
644
00:35:20,662 --> 00:35:23,373
And plus, he was traveling a lot too,
so he wasn't there a lot.
645
00:35:24,625 --> 00:35:27,002
[Elisa] Even though he worked a lot,
646
00:35:27,085 --> 00:35:29,004
I knew, like, once he was home
647
00:35:29,087 --> 00:35:32,841
we were gonna go get ice cream
or we were gonna go to the movies,
648
00:35:32,925 --> 00:35:35,636
or he would spend countless hours
with me in the mall,
649
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,515
letting me pick out my, like,
favorite outfits or whatever.
650
00:35:41,141 --> 00:35:44,686
[EJ] You know, he, um,
took us to the movies a lot,
651
00:35:44,770 --> 00:35:46,522
um, whenever he was home.
652
00:35:46,605 --> 00:35:48,649
You know, weekends
when he was there it's, like--
653
00:35:48,732 --> 00:35:51,151
You know, he would take us everywhere.
654
00:35:52,152 --> 00:35:54,947
[Andre] First memories,
I can remember, like,
655
00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:56,031
when my dad would come
656
00:35:56,114 --> 00:35:58,575
into Lansing,
we would get together as family.
657
00:35:58,659 --> 00:36:02,913
And then I started,
probably around ten or 11,
658
00:36:02,996 --> 00:36:05,290
starting to fly out by myself.
659
00:36:05,374 --> 00:36:09,711
And for the first time, seeing sort of
what the big city was like
660
00:36:09,795 --> 00:36:12,840
and, you know, seeing the beach,
going to Disneyland.
661
00:36:12,923 --> 00:36:16,468
Like, for little Lansing,
that seemed larger than life.
662
00:36:17,845 --> 00:36:21,473
He would always make time for--
for things that mattered, I would say.
663
00:36:21,557 --> 00:36:23,517
But he, yeah--
But he was-- he was working a lot,
664
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,270
and he was, you know, transforming himself
665
00:36:26,353 --> 00:36:31,441
and, um, his empire into the one
that he wanted it to be.
666
00:36:33,569 --> 00:36:36,238
In the beginning,
like, when we were growing up,
667
00:36:36,321 --> 00:36:38,490
he wanted me
to be into sports and whatever.
668
00:36:38,574 --> 00:36:40,617
But it's, like,
I had never had a mind for sports,
669
00:36:40,701 --> 00:36:45,372
even though, come home from school Friday,
change, basketball game.
670
00:36:46,248 --> 00:36:48,584
There wasn't a choice.
We're all going to The Forum.
671
00:36:48,667 --> 00:36:51,128
When it's, like, Friday night,
like, that's what we're doing.
672
00:36:51,211 --> 00:36:53,922
Yeah, I was there
for the championships and all that jazz.
673
00:36:54,006 --> 00:36:56,425
And all the men and boys
in the world come up to me
674
00:36:56,508 --> 00:36:58,427
and just like, "Oh, my God.
What that must've been like."
675
00:36:58,510 --> 00:37:00,179
Or, "This game in this year,"
676
00:37:00,262 --> 00:37:02,848
and, "When your dad made this pass,"
and such and such.
677
00:37:02,931 --> 00:37:05,475
And I'm like, "I have no idea
what you're talking about."
678
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:08,437
You know, we put him in T-ball,
and he just went out in the field
679
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,648
and picked the flowers and ran back
and, "Look, Mommy. Look what I got you."
680
00:37:11,732 --> 00:37:13,358
You know, he picked flowers for me.
681
00:37:13,442 --> 00:37:15,611
I'm like, "EJ,
you're supposed to catch the ball."
682
00:37:17,279 --> 00:37:20,657
[Elisa] So, when I was
playing basketball, I had his number.
683
00:37:20,741 --> 00:37:22,367
I used number 32.
684
00:37:22,451 --> 00:37:25,245
And when he would come to my games,
it was a lot of pressure.
685
00:37:25,329 --> 00:37:28,332
I did feel like all eyes were on me.
686
00:37:29,166 --> 00:37:31,585
[Magic] I stressed this
to my kids all the time.
687
00:37:31,668 --> 00:37:34,880
Everything that you do
reflects your parents.
688
00:37:35,881 --> 00:37:38,842
As a father, you say, "Oh, man,
I want him to get into sports
689
00:37:38,926 --> 00:37:40,594
and be like his-- like me."
690
00:37:41,303 --> 00:37:43,722
[Andre] People would say,
if I made a mistake,
691
00:37:43,805 --> 00:37:47,684
you know, it was worse
than any mistake that my dad made.
692
00:37:47,768 --> 00:37:49,770
Or if I did something great in the game,
693
00:37:49,853 --> 00:37:53,232
oh, that was great, but it was never
as great as what he did during that time.
694
00:37:53,315 --> 00:37:58,654
So, you know, at a early stage,
then I stopped loving playing.
695
00:38:00,322 --> 00:38:02,699
[EJ] But the thing is, like, I believe,
696
00:38:02,783 --> 00:38:04,535
it would've been harder for him to take
697
00:38:04,618 --> 00:38:10,707
if me or Elisa or Andre, like, ended up
being some basketball protégé
698
00:38:10,791 --> 00:38:13,836
and was crushing the game. Or, like,
turned into LeBron James or something.
699
00:38:13,919 --> 00:38:18,757
In some way, I think he needed
all the thunder in that lane.
700
00:38:20,425 --> 00:38:24,680
[Cookie] What was hard was for--
for him to just let go of that old world,
701
00:38:25,264 --> 00:38:27,224
um, because it was snatched from him.
702
00:38:27,307 --> 00:38:28,976
He wasn't ready to let it go.
703
00:38:29,476 --> 00:38:30,978
[West] He loved the competition.
704
00:38:31,645 --> 00:38:33,438
This is not because he wanted to be seen.
705
00:38:33,522 --> 00:38:35,732
It was about being competitive.
706
00:38:35,816 --> 00:38:40,279
I missed the elbows, getting elbowed,
and I missed giving some elbows.
707
00:38:40,362 --> 00:38:43,574
I missed, you know,
preparing for the opponent.
708
00:38:43,657 --> 00:38:45,200
I want to play.
709
00:38:47,786 --> 00:38:50,289
Why am I not out there?
710
00:38:50,372 --> 00:38:52,457
[Rosen] So in 1996,
711
00:38:52,541 --> 00:38:55,752
sometime after the first of the year,
he goes, "I'm coming back to play."
712
00:38:56,336 --> 00:38:57,504
But I knew…
713
00:38:58,672 --> 00:39:01,675
I knew that he was not
gonna last very long.
714
00:39:01,758 --> 00:39:05,304
[newscaster 1] This morning, Johnson ended
the speculation about his return.
715
00:39:05,387 --> 00:39:06,889
I am back. Yes, I am.
716
00:39:08,265 --> 00:39:11,560
[newscaster 2] Tickets started flying out
of The Forum box office soon as Laker fans
717
00:39:11,643 --> 00:39:14,396
caught wind that Magic Johnson
is returning to the team.
718
00:39:14,479 --> 00:39:17,941
I am so excited. I couldn't sleep
for the last two or three nights.
719
00:39:18,775 --> 00:39:21,987
I think it was 1996.
I was at Magic's comeback game.
720
00:39:22,070 --> 00:39:26,033
Sellout crowd. Whoo!
Magic's back in LA, baby.
721
00:39:26,658 --> 00:39:29,328
[Kimmel] I was a sports guy on the radio,
722
00:39:29,411 --> 00:39:31,330
and I was like,
"I have to go to this game."
723
00:39:32,915 --> 00:39:36,543
Magic is a big part of my childhood.
724
00:39:36,627 --> 00:39:39,087
Like, when I was a kid,
I used to draw pictures of him.
725
00:39:39,171 --> 00:39:43,592
To see him back on that court, not just
playing, but playing really well…
726
00:39:43,675 --> 00:39:45,469
[commentator]
Magic's in deep, banks it in!
727
00:39:45,552 --> 00:39:47,221
It was so life-affirming.
728
00:39:47,304 --> 00:39:49,348
It was beyond sports.
729
00:39:49,431 --> 00:39:52,768
When he took to the court
for the Los Angeles Lakers last night,
730
00:39:52,851 --> 00:39:55,938
Magic Johnson played
as if he hadn't missed a beat.
731
00:39:56,021 --> 00:39:59,858
He scored 19 points,
8 rebounds and 10 assists.
732
00:39:59,942 --> 00:40:04,154
As far as him going and playing,
I was happy 'cause he was happy,
733
00:40:04,238 --> 00:40:05,656
but… [smacks lips]
734
00:40:05,739 --> 00:40:09,159
you know, not necessarily thinking
that this was a good thing. [chuckles]
735
00:40:09,243 --> 00:40:11,954
Well, Magic Johnson says,
"Bring on Michael."
736
00:40:12,037 --> 00:40:14,998
The Magic Man appears ready
for a Friday night showdown
737
00:40:15,082 --> 00:40:20,254
with NBA king Michael Jordan
after a spectacular return last night.
738
00:40:20,337 --> 00:40:21,922
-[spectator] Oh. Oh.
-[commentator 2] Magic Johnson backs in.
739
00:40:22,005 --> 00:40:23,757
Rejected by Pippen.
740
00:40:23,841 --> 00:40:26,927
[commentator 3] Back to Magic
off the dribble by Rodman. Short.
741
00:40:29,847 --> 00:40:33,600
[Rosen] What was sad for me was
the second game against the Chicago Bulls,
742
00:40:33,684 --> 00:40:35,644
and they destroyed 'em.
743
00:40:35,727 --> 00:40:37,855
And I know Michael.
I spoke to him after the game.
744
00:40:37,938 --> 00:40:39,648
He-- He felt bad.
745
00:40:39,731 --> 00:40:43,527
I mean, him and Dennis Rodman just--
They obliterated 'em.
746
00:40:43,610 --> 00:40:46,154
I remember Dennis Rodman
wanted to guard him.
747
00:40:46,238 --> 00:40:48,699
You know, so we-- we sic Dennis on him.
748
00:40:48,782 --> 00:40:50,534
[commentator 1] Magic slaps the hand
of Rodman away,
749
00:40:50,617 --> 00:40:52,286
goes around him, and Rodman gets a foul.
750
00:40:52,369 --> 00:40:54,037
And-- Uh-oh. He will…
751
00:40:54,121 --> 00:40:55,914
[Jordan] There was
a lot of shit-talking in the game.
752
00:40:55,998 --> 00:41:00,669
Said, "Look, man, I told you in '92,
there's some new kids on the block."
753
00:41:00,752 --> 00:41:03,297
You know, "It's not Magic Johnson
and Larry Bird anymore.
754
00:41:03,380 --> 00:41:05,549
You're on the way down,
and we're on the way up."
755
00:41:06,049 --> 00:41:09,887
[Rambis] You know, the athleticism
and speed and quickness wasn't there.
756
00:41:09,970 --> 00:41:12,097
Because of his IQ and his size,
757
00:41:12,181 --> 00:41:16,643
he could still make, you know,
a contribution out there on the floor.
758
00:41:16,727 --> 00:41:21,857
But as the season goes on, you'll--
Things start to catch up to you.
759
00:41:21,940 --> 00:41:26,445
[Cookie] He wasn't as excited and happy
as he thought he would be.
760
00:41:26,528 --> 00:41:29,823
It was, you know, kind of grueling,
and it was different.
761
00:41:29,907 --> 00:41:31,491
[commentator] …defense
like he's trying to defend right now,
762
00:41:31,575 --> 00:41:33,285
the Blazers are gonna be all right.
763
00:41:33,368 --> 00:41:34,995
How about that for a reaction?
764
00:41:35,078 --> 00:41:40,375
It took that to tell him,
"Okay, I can retire now.
765
00:41:41,001 --> 00:41:42,878
It's not what it used to be.
766
00:41:43,378 --> 00:41:44,796
I don't want this anymore."
767
00:41:46,048 --> 00:41:49,801
This is not a sad day or a bad day.
It's a good day
768
00:41:49,885 --> 00:41:54,598
because, uh, God blessed me to be able
to come back and, um-- [smacks lips]
769
00:41:54,681 --> 00:41:57,142
And God will continue to bless me
after this is over.
770
00:41:58,185 --> 00:42:01,313
[Cookie] And he kept going back
to try to revive that old life,
771
00:42:01,396 --> 00:42:03,190
which just wasn't gonna happen.
772
00:42:03,273 --> 00:42:05,275
But what happens with his mind--
773
00:42:05,359 --> 00:42:08,654
The way Earvin thinks--
The way Earvin operates is,
774
00:42:08,737 --> 00:42:12,658
he only look forward, and then
that's when the new visions come.
775
00:42:12,741 --> 00:42:15,994
And he gets so excited
about the new visions.
776
00:42:16,787 --> 00:42:18,330
He had different things
he was trying to do.
777
00:42:18,413 --> 00:42:20,958
There was a comeback,
and then there was the TV show.
778
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:25,045
[newscaster 1] In just a few short months,
Johnson will host The Magic Hour,
779
00:42:25,128 --> 00:42:26,839
a late-night syndicated talk show.
780
00:42:27,422 --> 00:42:29,132
Hi. How you doing? All right?
781
00:42:29,466 --> 00:42:32,219
[newscaster 2] At a recent convention
for television programmers,
782
00:42:32,302 --> 00:42:35,848
he was working the room and pitching
the show to every executive in sight.
783
00:42:35,931 --> 00:42:37,683
How are you? Nice to meet you.
784
00:42:37,766 --> 00:42:41,019
We talked about it.
I thought it was an interesting idea.
785
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,565
I did warn him,
because I handled David Letterman,
786
00:42:45,065 --> 00:42:51,697
and I did advise him
that it's a tough, tough row to hoe.
787
00:42:51,780 --> 00:42:53,907
You've got Leno. You've got Letterman.
788
00:42:53,991 --> 00:42:57,119
This is really a tough arena
that you're getting into.
789
00:42:57,202 --> 00:42:58,745
-Yeah.
-[Stahl] Why are you doing that?
790
00:42:58,829 --> 00:43:02,082
-Because it's a tough arena.
-[Stahl] Ah. [chuckles]
791
00:43:02,791 --> 00:43:08,463
[announcer] Live from Los Angeles,
it's The Magic Hour.
792
00:43:08,547 --> 00:43:11,592
[Kimmel] The Magic Hour is--
793
00:43:11,675 --> 00:43:14,678
Keep in mind, this is coming
from somebody who loves Magic Johnson--
794
00:43:14,761 --> 00:43:17,264
Is one of the-- Not just one
of the worst talk shows,
795
00:43:17,347 --> 00:43:19,766
but one of the worst
television shows in history.
796
00:43:19,850 --> 00:43:23,562
All these twins I got in the front row.
Man!
797
00:43:25,355 --> 00:43:26,857
Look at all these twins.
798
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,861
[studio audience laughing]
799
00:43:30,944 --> 00:43:33,071
-Just for me, huh?
-[audience member] Just for you.
800
00:43:34,448 --> 00:43:38,994
And very quickly he realized, he doesn't
really like doing this every night.
801
00:43:39,077 --> 00:43:42,372
This has to be your breakfast,
lunch and dinner.
802
00:43:42,456 --> 00:43:43,457
It wasn't for him.
803
00:43:43,540 --> 00:43:46,752
He had breakfast and lunch
doing other things.
804
00:43:46,835 --> 00:43:50,339
So he was-- I think he was burning
the candle at too many ends.
805
00:43:51,757 --> 00:43:55,928
You know, the difference between Earvin
and Magic are very different people.
806
00:43:56,845 --> 00:43:59,681
You know, Magic is-- is-- is--
is the character.
807
00:43:59,765 --> 00:44:03,185
You know, he's--
he's the, you know, the man of the world.
808
00:44:03,268 --> 00:44:05,270
You know, he's in front of the camera
with a big smile,
809
00:44:05,354 --> 00:44:07,397
laughing, loving the attention.
810
00:44:07,481 --> 00:44:10,442
You know, he just becomes
a whole new person, like, when he's on.
811
00:44:10,526 --> 00:44:14,154
When he's off, you know,
he's kind of very introverted
812
00:44:14,238 --> 00:44:18,659
and, you know--
and, um, oftentimes quite quiet.
813
00:44:18,742 --> 00:44:21,328
It's like that movie Split.
They're just fighting for the light.
814
00:44:21,411 --> 00:44:23,205
You know, it's like someone--
Earvin might have light,
815
00:44:23,288 --> 00:44:26,959
and then something might change.
And then Magic comes in.
816
00:44:28,252 --> 00:44:34,049
The funny thing is, like, my dad was,
like, almost the same identical brain
817
00:44:34,132 --> 00:44:38,428
and we think, and we process things,
you know, very, very similarly.
818
00:44:38,512 --> 00:44:41,515
And he was figuring himself out.
I was figuring myself out.
819
00:44:44,476 --> 00:44:47,312
The journey to becoming who I am
was the most difficult,
820
00:44:47,396 --> 00:44:52,150
and a lot of that had to do with
this huge name that was hanging over me.
821
00:44:54,695 --> 00:44:57,865
He was always, like--
always watching me when growing up.
822
00:44:57,948 --> 00:45:00,158
Like, testing me and--
823
00:45:00,242 --> 00:45:02,327
Especially when I was younger,
because obviously I always gravitated
824
00:45:02,411 --> 00:45:04,162
for things that are more feminine
and stuff like that.
825
00:45:04,246 --> 00:45:06,164
And he, you know-- That was not allowed.
826
00:45:06,248 --> 00:45:09,084
He would always wanna play
with his sister's dolls,
827
00:45:09,168 --> 00:45:10,919
especially the Barbie dolls,
828
00:45:11,003 --> 00:45:12,838
and dress them up in different things.
829
00:45:12,921 --> 00:45:16,091
And no matter how much
I told him not to do it,
830
00:45:16,675 --> 00:45:18,844
I would go upstairs
and that's what he would be doing.
831
00:45:21,138 --> 00:45:25,392
[EJ] I always snuck Barbies under
my bed or like little dress costumes.
832
00:45:26,602 --> 00:45:27,853
I would hide from him.
833
00:45:29,062 --> 00:45:31,023
It was almost like
I was living a double life.
834
00:45:32,858 --> 00:45:34,401
If it was just an hour
835
00:45:34,902 --> 00:45:37,738
alone in my room where I got
to twirl around in my little dress
836
00:45:37,821 --> 00:45:42,034
and be the evil queen and play
with my dolls, like, that's it.
837
00:45:42,117 --> 00:45:44,161
I would go to school
and be who I wanted to be,
838
00:45:44,244 --> 00:45:46,538
but when I was at home-- No.
839
00:45:49,041 --> 00:45:50,918
[Cookie] It was a spring break
with the kids.
840
00:45:52,211 --> 00:45:54,838
EJ, you know, was, like, 13.
841
00:45:54,922 --> 00:45:59,468
And that's when I saw him looking at
another boy at-- when we were in Hawaii.
842
00:46:01,053 --> 00:46:02,930
I had a conversation with him and said,
843
00:46:03,013 --> 00:46:05,849
"Do you think that you are gay
or you like boys?"
844
00:46:05,933 --> 00:46:09,728
And he was like, "Yes, I do."
And he was really nervous to tell me.
845
00:46:09,811 --> 00:46:14,191
Before he really said it, I was like,
"EJ, you don't have to worry about me.
846
00:46:14,274 --> 00:46:16,777
I already knew who you were."
847
00:46:16,860 --> 00:46:21,782
It's-- And I could see, like, the weight
kind of fall off of his shoulders.
848
00:46:21,865 --> 00:46:24,576
I think he had a conversation
with Cookie at that point,
849
00:46:24,660 --> 00:46:27,663
but he hadn't had a conversation
with my dad yet.
850
00:46:28,997 --> 00:46:31,667
[Cookie] I said, "I'm with you,
and I support you, and I love you.
851
00:46:31,750 --> 00:46:34,086
So next step, how do we tell Dad?"
852
00:46:35,838 --> 00:46:37,965
[Cookie] When we got back
from that vacation,
853
00:46:38,048 --> 00:46:41,885
I decided to tell him right away
because I wanted to get it out of the way.
854
00:46:41,969 --> 00:46:43,887
Because I was ready to move forward.
855
00:46:44,805 --> 00:46:47,474
[EJ] He said, "You need
to be masculine. You need to be this way.
856
00:46:47,558 --> 00:46:49,935
This isn't the life I wanted for you."
And it was just sitting there,
857
00:46:50,018 --> 00:46:52,771
which was like,
"Well, this is very hard to hear."
858
00:46:53,856 --> 00:46:57,526
I'm not gonna sit here and lie to you
and say that, you know,
859
00:46:57,609 --> 00:47:01,697
I accepted what he was doing
in the beginning, 'cause I didn't.
860
00:47:01,780 --> 00:47:04,575
EJ left the room.
I'd-- I-- I lit into him.
861
00:47:04,658 --> 00:47:06,368
Like, "I can't believe you said that.
862
00:47:06,451 --> 00:47:08,412
You know, this is who he is.
Let-- Leave him alone.
863
00:47:08,495 --> 00:47:10,289
Let him be who he-- he wants to be."
864
00:47:10,372 --> 00:47:13,125
I remember talking to EJ afterwards,
865
00:47:13,208 --> 00:47:14,501
and that was tough.
866
00:47:15,460 --> 00:47:16,503
That was tough.
867
00:47:17,129 --> 00:47:20,591
-[paparazzi] What's good, brother?
-What up? What up? What up?
868
00:47:20,674 --> 00:47:23,468
[EJ] I was out one night in LA
just minding my own business,
869
00:47:23,552 --> 00:47:27,431
and me and my friend, who was a guy--
We were holding hands.
870
00:47:28,056 --> 00:47:31,393
When I woke up that next morning,
everything had changed.
871
00:47:31,476 --> 00:47:33,478
I mean, it was everywhere.
872
00:47:33,562 --> 00:47:36,148
It's Magic Johnson's son, EJ, 20-year-old.
873
00:47:36,231 --> 00:47:39,693
Uh, pictures of him just, uh, showed up
with him holding hands with his boyfriend.
874
00:47:40,569 --> 00:47:42,988
[Magic] Everybody was trying
to chase down stories
875
00:47:43,071 --> 00:47:45,866
and trying to say, "Hey, was he gay?"
876
00:47:46,450 --> 00:47:47,826
You know, that was hard for me.
877
00:47:48,535 --> 00:47:50,412
I'm supposed to protect my kids.
878
00:47:50,913 --> 00:47:52,956
My father passed that down to me.
879
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,668
And so with EJ, I had to check myself
880
00:47:57,711 --> 00:48:00,506
and say, "This is who he is,
881
00:48:00,589 --> 00:48:03,884
and you can't put your life on your son.
882
00:48:05,761 --> 00:48:07,846
You gotta change. Not him. You."
883
00:48:10,641 --> 00:48:13,310
[Cookie] Um, so one day, we were at home.
884
00:48:13,393 --> 00:48:16,146
And I heard them talking down the hallway,
near EJ's bedroom,
885
00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:18,815
and I was thinking, "What are they--
Why is he up so early?"
886
00:48:21,735 --> 00:48:26,031
I told him. I said,
"No matter who you want to be,
887
00:48:26,114 --> 00:48:29,117
and whoever you are, I'm gonna love you."
888
00:48:29,201 --> 00:48:33,580
He literally hugged me so hard. I thought
he was gonna break my back in half.
889
00:48:33,664 --> 00:48:36,542
And, like, that's when I knew.
I was like, "We got this."
890
00:48:36,625 --> 00:48:38,836
[Williams] The fabulous EJ Johnson.
891
00:48:38,919 --> 00:48:41,797
You didn't just come out of the closet,
you kicked the hinges off the door.
892
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:42,714
[studio audience cheers]
893
00:48:43,340 --> 00:48:44,675
This is what it's all about.
894
00:48:44,758 --> 00:48:47,553
-I'm gonna love him for who he is, and--
-That's right.
895
00:48:49,137 --> 00:48:50,514
[EJ] That he was there for me,
896
00:48:50,597 --> 00:48:53,767
it spoke volumes a lot,
to a lot of families
897
00:48:53,851 --> 00:48:56,103
and a lot of, you know, fathers and sons.
898
00:48:56,186 --> 00:48:58,397
Especially, you know, those of color.
899
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,148
All I saw was a father's love
900
00:49:00,732 --> 00:49:02,985
and just how proud he was
talking about EJ.
901
00:49:03,610 --> 00:49:08,073
And I didn't know that I would be dealing
with something similar many years later.
902
00:49:08,782 --> 00:49:10,701
And for me, I can go back to that.
903
00:49:10,784 --> 00:49:14,872
I can go back to a proud dad
talking about his child. Nothing else.
904
00:49:15,455 --> 00:49:20,127
[EJ] He really respects me and who I am
and showing who you are
905
00:49:20,210 --> 00:49:21,879
and-- and not being afraid.
906
00:49:21,962 --> 00:49:25,924
What he did for so many young people,
907
00:49:26,008 --> 00:49:27,634
that made me feel so good.
908
00:49:27,718 --> 00:49:29,261
He's mentioned that to me before.
909
00:49:29,344 --> 00:49:33,473
And he's like, "I've, you know-- I've
learned so much just by being your father
910
00:49:33,557 --> 00:49:34,850
and watching you and--"
911
00:49:34,933 --> 00:49:37,769
And I think that that's really
when he got to see that, like,
912
00:49:37,853 --> 00:49:41,315
we are way more alike
than we are different.
913
00:49:41,398 --> 00:49:46,737
The gag is, you'll never know
that we are closer than close.
914
00:49:46,820 --> 00:49:48,530
[cheering]
915
00:49:50,657 --> 00:49:56,413
[Brown] Earvin recognized that there was
lots of young people who had struggles.
916
00:49:56,496 --> 00:50:00,125
So we were gonna expand the foundation
917
00:50:00,209 --> 00:50:06,465
from a single-focus, HIV/AIDS focused,
and we expanded it to scholarships.
918
00:50:06,548 --> 00:50:09,259
The Magic Johnson Foundation
was my extended family.
919
00:50:10,177 --> 00:50:12,179
[Johns]
I'm a former scholarship recipient
920
00:50:12,262 --> 00:50:15,766
of the Magic Johnson/Taylor Michaels
Scholarship Program.
921
00:50:15,849 --> 00:50:19,436
[Brown] The scholarship
focused on identifying students
922
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:25,275
that needed not only financial support,
but that also needed a mentor.
923
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:31,114
The vast majority of students who are
selected face significant hardship.
924
00:50:31,198 --> 00:50:34,785
They had the grades to go to college.
They just didn't have the financial means,
925
00:50:34,868 --> 00:50:37,996
and so the Magic Johnson Foundation
helped them with that.
926
00:50:38,705 --> 00:50:41,834
[Brown] Not only
did we provide scholarships,
927
00:50:41,917 --> 00:50:45,838
we gave them the tools to succeed.
928
00:50:45,921 --> 00:50:49,424
We realized you can't just give
these students money to go to college,
929
00:50:49,508 --> 00:50:52,052
but they need support the entire way.
930
00:50:52,636 --> 00:50:55,222
[Grant] We had technology centers
in multiple cities
931
00:50:55,305 --> 00:51:00,811
to provide laptops, résumé training,
interview workshops.
932
00:51:01,812 --> 00:51:05,816
There were about 30 of us
who started in the program,
933
00:51:05,899 --> 00:51:07,901
and then year after year, it grew.
934
00:51:08,485 --> 00:51:11,697
[Magic] All the thousands of kids,
all those young people
935
00:51:11,780 --> 00:51:13,866
that we put in college, you know.
936
00:51:14,449 --> 00:51:16,660
It's just a-- It's just beautiful, man.
937
00:51:16,743 --> 00:51:20,080
Magic Johnson, whom we
affectionately call "Daddy Earv,"
938
00:51:20,163 --> 00:51:22,040
was-- was like a father figure.
939
00:51:22,124 --> 00:51:26,628
And I have an excellent father, um,
but he was like a bonus dad.
940
00:51:26,712 --> 00:51:29,798
We call him "Daddy Earv." It's hard for me
to say "Magic" at this point.
941
00:51:29,882 --> 00:51:31,425
They called him "Daddy Earv,"
942
00:51:31,508 --> 00:51:37,014
and, um, he was a big, big,
big part of their lives.
943
00:51:37,764 --> 00:51:41,977
He wasn't the--
the basketball star around us,
944
00:51:42,060 --> 00:51:44,646
so he wasn't Earvin "Magic" Johnson.
945
00:51:44,730 --> 00:51:48,108
He was warm, and he was tender,
and he was compassionate.
946
00:51:48,192 --> 00:51:51,737
[Grant] And he is someone
who likes to see you grow.
947
00:51:51,820 --> 00:51:56,742
He loves to see the potential,
invest in it, encourage, water.
948
00:51:57,576 --> 00:52:00,662
He gave us that confidence.
Like, shoulders back, chin up, chest out.
949
00:52:00,746 --> 00:52:04,791
You are somebody. You have something
to say. People need to hear it.
950
00:52:04,875 --> 00:52:06,293
No fear. Go forth.
951
00:52:06,877 --> 00:52:10,339
[EJ] Like, that's what really makes him
a legend and an icon in my eyes.
952
00:52:10,422 --> 00:52:14,635
And, um, he-- he went higher than--
probably than he could even have imagined.
953
00:52:14,718 --> 00:52:17,346
And he just kept going and going,
and he keeps going and going.
954
00:52:19,014 --> 00:52:20,182
[newscaster 1]
He's one of the best guards,
955
00:52:20,265 --> 00:52:22,643
perhaps the best basketball player
of all time.
956
00:52:22,726 --> 00:52:25,771
[newscaster 2] The first player ever
to win a high school,
957
00:52:25,854 --> 00:52:29,525
an NCAA, an NBA
and an Olympic championship.
958
00:52:29,608 --> 00:52:33,278
[newscaster 1] He's won five MVPs
and five championship rings.
959
00:52:33,362 --> 00:52:36,740
[newscaster 3] Johnson has made
an impact as a successful businessman.
960
00:52:36,823 --> 00:52:38,575
He has helped revitalize
urban neighborhoods.
961
00:52:39,201 --> 00:52:42,996
[newscaster 4] He's become synonymous with
the city of Los Angeles and much more.
962
00:52:45,457 --> 00:52:49,878
I brought my mom, I remember,
'cause my father didn't make it that time.
963
00:52:49,962 --> 00:52:53,298
And all of a sudden,
she-- I saw her tear up.
964
00:52:54,383 --> 00:52:55,926
And I said, "Mom, what's wrong?"
965
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,639
She said, "I cannot believe it,
and your grandfather--
966
00:53:02,015 --> 00:53:05,894
He would have just been out of his mind
967
00:53:05,978 --> 00:53:09,106
to know that--
Jackie Robinson was his favorite player.
968
00:53:09,982 --> 00:53:13,443
He cheered for Jackie,
listened to every game on the radio,
969
00:53:14,528 --> 00:53:20,325
and now the team that Jackie played for,
you own-- One of the owners of the team."
970
00:53:20,409 --> 00:53:22,160
And I was like, "Wow."
971
00:53:31,378 --> 00:53:36,216
I was born the day after Jackie Robinson
played his first game in Brooklyn.
972
00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:39,553
That was, uh, very significant
in my household.
973
00:53:43,765 --> 00:53:45,684
[people in crowd cheering]
974
00:53:45,767 --> 00:53:47,895
[Abdul-Jabbar]
Sixty years later… [chuckles]
975
00:53:48,729 --> 00:53:50,063
…and it's Magic.
976
00:53:50,147 --> 00:53:56,320
And that was, uh, the type of good luck
that you cannot-- you can't order it up.
977
00:53:56,403 --> 00:53:57,696
It just happens.
978
00:53:57,779 --> 00:54:01,200
[newscaster 1] Magic Johnson is joining
a new team, the LA Dodgers.
979
00:54:01,283 --> 00:54:04,953
[newscaster 2] His winning lineage
with the Lakers and his megawatt smile
980
00:54:05,037 --> 00:54:07,331
have all of a sudden, by themselves,
981
00:54:07,414 --> 00:54:10,626
lifted a cloud that's really plagued
Dodgers and their fans.
982
00:54:12,044 --> 00:54:14,171
It's-- It's-- I can't-- [clears throat]
983
00:54:15,297 --> 00:54:17,049
I can't even put into words how it is.
984
00:54:17,132 --> 00:54:20,093
-So, um, it's a great time.
-[crowd applauds]
985
00:54:20,761 --> 00:54:21,762
[clears throat]
986
00:54:24,139 --> 00:54:27,976
[Magic] Well, my father was about
never owing anybody anything.
987
00:54:28,060 --> 00:54:34,149
So he would always teach me
about owning the car that he drove,
988
00:54:34,233 --> 00:54:35,943
owning the house that we lived in.
989
00:54:36,735 --> 00:54:38,362
That's the power in America.
990
00:54:39,488 --> 00:54:42,282
[commentator]
Dodgers have won it all in 2020.
991
00:54:45,953 --> 00:54:47,329
This is what it's all about.
992
00:54:47,412 --> 00:54:49,540
And you know what I had told them
when we bought the team?
993
00:54:49,623 --> 00:54:54,962
"I got all these Laker championship rings.
I wanted a World Series ring."
994
00:54:55,045 --> 00:54:57,339
And sure enough, I got one. Yeah!
995
00:54:58,090 --> 00:55:00,217
The Black kid from Lansing, Michigan.
996
00:55:00,801 --> 00:55:02,719
It's all about ownership.
997
00:55:02,803 --> 00:55:04,137
That's the game he's in now.
998
00:55:04,221 --> 00:55:06,098
[newscaster 1] Once again,
Johnson is bringing the magic
999
00:55:06,181 --> 00:55:07,766
back to a beloved franchise.
1000
00:55:07,850 --> 00:55:10,602
They said, "Let's buy the Sparks."
I said, "Okay, let's go do it."
1001
00:55:12,229 --> 00:55:13,647
[teammates] Let's go, Sparks!
1002
00:55:13,730 --> 00:55:15,816
If you ask him right now,
"So, what's next?"
1003
00:55:15,899 --> 00:55:19,069
He's gonna be like, "Glad you asked.
So here's the thing." [chuckles]
1004
00:55:19,152 --> 00:55:21,363
[newscaster 2]
Los Angeles icon Magic Johnson
1005
00:55:21,446 --> 00:55:24,783
is part of a powerhouse group
financing LAFC,
1006
00:55:24,867 --> 00:55:28,287
a new soccer club
recently approved by the MLS.
1007
00:55:28,370 --> 00:55:30,873
[McAdoo] That's what I like seeing,
as a older Black man.
1008
00:55:30,956 --> 00:55:35,794
You know, he's doing things that we--
we couldn't dream of doing.
1009
00:55:37,796 --> 00:55:40,215
[Holoman]
Earvin's always been a trailblazer,
1010
00:55:40,299 --> 00:55:43,594
and I think the important part
of that is--
1011
00:55:43,677 --> 00:55:45,262
is we don't just kick the door open.
1012
00:55:45,345 --> 00:55:49,057
We make sure that we leave it open and--
and provide a path for others to follow.
1013
00:55:50,350 --> 00:55:52,269
[Wade] Everything that
I've always wanted to accomplish
1014
00:55:52,352 --> 00:55:53,729
or didn't think was attainable,
1015
00:55:53,812 --> 00:55:57,524
once-- Magic has shown us, once again,
"Hey, guys. You can do it."
1016
00:55:57,608 --> 00:56:00,694
[Barkley] That's one of the reasons
all the brothers admire Earvin.
1017
00:56:00,777 --> 00:56:06,491
He's the first guy who taught us
how to make money away from basketball
1018
00:56:07,242 --> 00:56:12,497
and also go back in your communities and
give people of color economic opportunity.
1019
00:56:12,581 --> 00:56:14,166
That's a really big deal.
1020
00:56:14,249 --> 00:56:15,709
We all owe Magic.
1021
00:56:16,752 --> 00:56:19,338
Like, you know, you talk about
generation from generation,
1022
00:56:20,214 --> 00:56:21,298
I owe Magic.
1023
00:56:23,258 --> 00:56:26,178
[Smith] Magic Johnson
made it very, very popular
1024
00:56:26,261 --> 00:56:29,306
to not have any excuses
to fall and stay down.
1025
00:56:29,389 --> 00:56:30,599
Because if anybody could have
1026
00:56:31,225 --> 00:56:33,977
he could have, and he refused to do so.
1027
00:56:34,061 --> 00:56:35,562
And look at how he's shining today.
1028
00:56:37,773 --> 00:56:40,651
Although he took the long way around
1029
00:56:41,151 --> 00:56:42,986
to get to this point,
1030
00:56:43,070 --> 00:56:45,614
how he is with Cookie…
1031
00:56:48,158 --> 00:56:50,452
-[Easley] It's amazing.
-It's what everybody would want.
1032
00:56:50,536 --> 00:56:53,580
-[Easley] It's a wonderful love story.
-It's what-- It's what-- Yeah, it-- it is.
1033
00:56:53,664 --> 00:56:56,416
Wherever they are at as a couple,
1034
00:56:56,500 --> 00:56:58,502
he's looking out for Cookie.
"Where's Cookie?"
1035
00:56:58,585 --> 00:57:00,504
He's got her by her hand,
or he's looking for her.
1036
00:57:00,587 --> 00:57:02,589
-Right.
-And I love the way he does her
1037
00:57:02,673 --> 00:57:04,716
and the way he treats her
and the way he looks at her.
1038
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,387
It is just-- You can--
It's so much love, and I just--
1039
00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:10,848
That's one of my favorite things
about their relationship
1040
00:57:10,931 --> 00:57:12,599
is that love that they have
for each other.
1041
00:57:13,183 --> 00:57:17,938
[Webster] Leading up
to their extravaganza in Nice, France,
1042
00:57:18,021 --> 00:57:21,775
-was just incredible.
-[crew member] I got videos of that. Wow.
1043
00:57:21,859 --> 00:57:24,111
-[Easley] And, yeah. He did that for her.
-[Webster] Saint-Tropez.
1044
00:57:24,194 --> 00:57:26,238
It just was amazing.
1045
00:57:32,077 --> 00:57:33,620
[people at party] Surprise! [cheering]
1046
00:57:33,704 --> 00:57:38,584
[Magic] We say thank you for coming
and being a part of our 25th anniversary.
1047
00:57:39,459 --> 00:57:42,963
[Cookie] You look back and reflect back,
'cause it's 25 years, and I go--
1048
00:57:43,046 --> 00:57:45,174
[gasps] Even though I'm praying every day,
1049
00:57:45,257 --> 00:57:47,217
like, thinking that a miracle
is gonna happen…
1050
00:57:49,261 --> 00:57:51,763
it hit me that the miracle did happen.
1051
00:57:52,514 --> 00:57:53,891
Because he's still here.
1052
00:57:55,726 --> 00:57:57,102
He's still healthy.
1053
00:57:58,812 --> 00:58:00,439
We are living our miracle.
1054
00:58:02,566 --> 00:58:05,736
You can argue all you want about the GOAT.
1055
00:58:06,361 --> 00:58:09,198
You can talk about Bill Russell,
Jerry West, Oscar Robertson,
1056
00:58:09,281 --> 00:58:11,700
Wilt Chamberlain to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
1057
00:58:11,783 --> 00:58:14,161
You know, talk about Michael Jordan,
LeBron James.
1058
00:58:14,244 --> 00:58:15,495
You can go on and on.
1059
00:58:16,371 --> 00:58:19,082
And not because I coached him,
1060
00:58:19,166 --> 00:58:21,960
not because I just love him,
I think he's the greatest of all time.
1061
00:58:23,212 --> 00:58:25,297
[Bird] You know,
everybody has their own opinions.
1062
00:58:25,380 --> 00:58:26,924
I have my own opinion.
1063
00:58:27,007 --> 00:58:29,384
But, uh, it doesn't matter who's better.
1064
00:58:29,468 --> 00:58:31,220
We'll be linked together
for the rest of our life.
1065
00:58:32,346 --> 00:58:33,347
[Snoop Dogg] His name is Magic.
1066
00:58:33,430 --> 00:58:35,974
So we knew it was gonna be
something magical.
1067
00:58:36,808 --> 00:58:40,145
He does not realize
the impact of his name.
1068
00:58:41,021 --> 00:58:42,481
His name will be there forever.
1069
00:58:45,067 --> 00:58:46,818
[Magic] I never got caught into "Magic."
1070
00:58:46,902 --> 00:58:50,697
I didn't think it was going to stick,
and I didn't think it was going to last.
1071
00:58:50,781 --> 00:58:52,491
And here I am.
1072
00:58:52,574 --> 00:58:56,245
I'm 61 now,
and people are still calling me Magic.
1073
00:58:56,328 --> 00:58:57,871
So I guess I was wrong,
1074
00:58:59,748 --> 00:59:01,124
and everybody else was right.
88861