Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated:
1
00:00:02,294 --> 00:00:03,337
Magic and Michael.
2
00:00:03,420 --> 00:00:05,506
Four quarters a game,
seven games, if necessary,
3
00:00:05,589 --> 00:00:06,965
for the pro basketball title.
4
00:00:07,966 --> 00:00:10,344
These are two masters
of the game, Magic and Michael.
5
00:00:10,427 --> 00:00:12,137
For all the marbles this time.
6
00:00:12,763 --> 00:00:14,264
It was him and I.
7
00:00:14,806 --> 00:00:17,935
This is the first time
we were gonna face off against each other.
8
00:00:18,018 --> 00:00:19,895
It's a showdown between two legends.
9
00:00:19,978 --> 00:00:23,357
LA's Magic Johnson
and Chicago's Michael Jordan.
10
00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:24,816
If you're at the top of the mountain,
11
00:00:25,275 --> 00:00:27,402
there's no way you want someone
to push you off that mountain.
12
00:00:27,986 --> 00:00:31,198
You gonna fight, you gonna fight
until you get pushed off that mountain.
13
00:00:31,782 --> 00:00:33,158
And that's where Magic was.
14
00:00:33,242 --> 00:00:35,536
He was--
He was top of the mountain for me.
15
00:00:35,619 --> 00:00:37,412
'Cause all your energy has been generated
16
00:00:37,496 --> 00:00:41,917
just to try to beat one guy,
beat that one guy.
17
00:00:42,835 --> 00:00:48,799
As a competitor, I wasn't gonna
give up the crown easily.
18
00:01:46,607 --> 00:01:49,651
Listen, I knew in my heart
who I was gonna marry.
19
00:01:49,735 --> 00:01:53,238
I wasn't ready to be married,
but I knew I would always marry Cookie.
20
00:01:54,907 --> 00:02:01,622
Of course, you know, her mom, father
and her friends all, you know, felt
21
00:02:01,705 --> 00:02:05,959
that I wasn't probably
the right guy for her. You know?
22
00:02:06,043 --> 00:02:07,920
Because I kept breaking her heart.
23
00:02:08,002 --> 00:02:10,631
But at the end of the day,
I loved her so much.
24
00:02:11,423 --> 00:02:16,094
I knew him well enough to know
that it wasn't that he didn't love me.
25
00:02:16,929 --> 00:02:18,096
It wasn't that.
26
00:02:18,180 --> 00:02:20,557
In '91, when we played the Bulls,
27
00:02:22,100 --> 00:02:23,018
She said to me,
28
00:02:23,101 --> 00:02:25,854
"Hey, if we're gonna make it,
I got to move out to LA."
29
00:02:27,189 --> 00:02:29,191
I said, "I think that the problem is--
30
00:02:29,274 --> 00:02:30,943
The reason why we can't get married is
31
00:02:31,026 --> 00:02:34,196
'cause we're not even used to living
in the same city."
32
00:02:35,239 --> 00:02:37,824
All these years, it was long distance.
33
00:02:37,908 --> 00:02:40,244
I said, "So we need to learn to live
in the same city.
34
00:02:40,327 --> 00:02:45,123
I'll only do it if I have a job
and I have my own apartment,
35
00:02:45,207 --> 00:02:47,584
you know, so I can still have
my independence."
36
00:02:49,628 --> 00:02:54,132
Some of us might have been a little upset
that she was going back,
37
00:02:54,216 --> 00:02:57,219
drinking the Kool-Aid again, you know?
It's like…
38
00:02:57,928 --> 00:03:00,305
"Don't you remember what happened before?"
39
00:03:02,266 --> 00:03:03,934
That was the first year
40
00:03:04,476 --> 00:03:09,565
that he invited me to go to the playoffs.
41
00:03:10,607 --> 00:03:16,321
In all of the other championships
that he played in, I was never there.
42
00:03:16,905 --> 00:03:19,783
So finally, when they were
in the championship against Chicago,
43
00:03:20,659 --> 00:03:22,077
he allowed me to go.
44
00:03:22,828 --> 00:03:25,539
I was super excited about the playoffs.
45
00:03:25,622 --> 00:03:28,959
I mean, this was, you know,
the Chicago Bulls, Michael Jordan.
46
00:03:31,211 --> 00:03:35,632
I don't think we went through a season
where we felt we weren't the best team.
47
00:03:35,716 --> 00:03:38,969
I mean, that's just the arrogance
and the confidence we had about our team.
48
00:03:39,052 --> 00:03:41,013
And we went into Chicago feeling that way.
49
00:03:41,096 --> 00:03:44,183
And the opening tip
controlled by the LA Lakers
50
00:03:44,266 --> 00:03:47,311
as Magic Johnson against Michael Jordan.
51
00:03:47,394 --> 00:03:49,521
They were good. I mean, Chicago was good
52
00:03:50,147 --> 00:03:53,275
but they had never
been to the finals before.
53
00:03:53,358 --> 00:03:55,569
If you've never been there,
you don't know what it's like.
54
00:03:56,195 --> 00:03:57,362
It's somewhat of a disadvantage.
55
00:03:57,946 --> 00:04:01,033
This is the first time we had the chance
to go against a juggernaut.
56
00:04:01,825 --> 00:04:04,745
And we were nervous going into the game.
57
00:04:06,288 --> 00:04:09,750
I was feeling good. We won game one.
58
00:04:09,833 --> 00:04:12,377
A.C. Green
back on the floor for the Lakers.
59
00:04:12,461 --> 00:04:13,504
Magic.
60
00:04:14,129 --> 00:04:16,923
We expect this. We're back in the finals.
61
00:04:17,007 --> 00:04:18,132
This is what we do.
62
00:04:19,384 --> 00:04:20,511
We win big games.
63
00:04:21,803 --> 00:04:23,847
Game two. Let's go.
Let's get it on right now.
64
00:04:25,390 --> 00:04:27,059
And then they won four straight.
65
00:04:28,477 --> 00:04:31,730
Final seconds.
Magic's three-point attempt blocked.
66
00:04:31,813 --> 00:04:33,190
Pippen comes away with it.
67
00:04:33,774 --> 00:04:39,488
And the Chicago Bulls have won
their first-ever NBA championship.
68
00:04:42,991 --> 00:04:44,952
Magic's not gonna go down just to go down.
69
00:04:45,035 --> 00:04:48,580
You have to go take something from him
because he's been there many times before.
70
00:04:48,664 --> 00:04:52,251
And, you know, we went, and we took it.
71
00:04:52,334 --> 00:04:54,878
I tried to get to him on the floor,
but I couldn't.
72
00:04:54,962 --> 00:04:56,880
'Cause I wanted to congratulate him.
73
00:04:56,964 --> 00:05:01,134
He came in our locker room,
he gave me the biggest hug, you know?
74
00:05:01,218 --> 00:05:04,054
He congratulated me,
and he wished me well.
75
00:05:05,013 --> 00:05:07,474
When he hugged me, he just started crying.
76
00:05:07,558 --> 00:05:11,645
It was a beautiful moment
for both of us to see the joy.
77
00:05:12,521 --> 00:05:15,941
And I wanted to say, "Hey, congratulations
on winning your first championship."
78
00:05:16,024 --> 00:05:20,070
He didn't have to do it. You know?
From a competitive standpoint.
79
00:05:20,571 --> 00:05:22,364
But he understood what it meant.
80
00:05:22,447 --> 00:05:23,949
He understood the respect of it,
81
00:05:24,032 --> 00:05:27,744
that, okay, you entered into this club,
82
00:05:27,828 --> 00:05:29,705
this Larry Bird, Magic Johnson club.
83
00:05:30,664 --> 00:05:32,958
That shows the true champion
that he really is.
84
00:05:33,041 --> 00:05:35,961
Michael Jordan is the unanimous MVP.
85
00:05:36,044 --> 00:05:40,757
Is there a feeling of a passing
of the torch, Magic Johnson to you?
86
00:05:40,841 --> 00:05:42,426
It was Michael Jordan saying,
87
00:05:42,509 --> 00:05:45,929
"Hey, man.
Why don't you hand over the baton?"
88
00:05:46,013 --> 00:05:48,599
And Magic's like
"I don't know. I don't know."
89
00:05:48,682 --> 00:05:51,143
He was trying to hang on to it
just a little bit longer.
90
00:05:52,019 --> 00:05:53,729
I do have to admit it was their turn.
91
00:05:54,730 --> 00:05:58,901
But, man, it's painful for me to lose.
92
00:06:00,027 --> 00:06:02,779
I said, "Okay. We're gonna
come back next year and win."
93
00:06:03,447 --> 00:06:07,659
Even though we lost,
for us it was a good thing.
94
00:06:07,743 --> 00:06:09,077
That was a good experience
95
00:06:09,161 --> 00:06:14,082
for him to understand that now you can
invite me into this part of your life.
96
00:06:16,251 --> 00:06:18,337
And then there was the pool party.
97
00:06:21,715 --> 00:06:24,259
Well, you know,
I was known for my parties now.
98
00:06:30,224 --> 00:06:32,184
I had the best parties in Hollywood.
99
00:06:32,267 --> 00:06:35,145
I mean, I had
some incredible pool parties.
100
00:06:35,229 --> 00:06:38,065
Everybody wanted to come
to the pool parties, you know?
101
00:06:38,148 --> 00:06:39,608
It was fun. It was exciting.
102
00:06:40,150 --> 00:06:44,071
If you're married, you can get in trouble.
If you're single, you can get in trouble.
103
00:06:45,405 --> 00:06:48,534
A lot of the wives weren't happy
that their husbands were there
104
00:06:48,617 --> 00:06:50,160
and they weren't invited.
105
00:06:50,661 --> 00:06:52,162
You know? You need to grow up.
106
00:06:52,246 --> 00:06:54,331
You can't be--
You shouldn't be doing these things.
107
00:06:54,414 --> 00:06:57,209
And I kept talking to him, going,
"I can't believe you're doing it."
108
00:06:57,292 --> 00:07:00,212
He's like, "I can't believe
you're making a big deal over nothing."
109
00:07:01,463 --> 00:07:03,507
So we had this huge fight again.
110
00:07:04,049 --> 00:07:06,343
"Well, if you give this party, that's it."
111
00:07:07,302 --> 00:07:09,263
I stood my ground, he stood his ground.
112
00:07:10,097 --> 00:07:12,391
My head goes,
"You don't want to be a part of this.
113
00:07:12,474 --> 00:07:14,017
You don't want to go through this.
114
00:07:14,101 --> 00:07:16,186
You know, maybe it's a sign.
115
00:07:17,980 --> 00:07:19,189
He's not gonna change."
116
00:07:21,441 --> 00:07:22,985
That was it. We were done.
117
00:07:25,070 --> 00:07:27,406
I didn't think she would actually leave.
118
00:07:29,074 --> 00:07:30,534
This stung me so bad.
119
00:07:35,873 --> 00:07:39,418
After the season,
I always used to go to the Bahamas
120
00:07:39,501 --> 00:07:41,044
and go to sleep for a week
121
00:07:41,545 --> 00:07:45,382
and let my body heal and my mind rest.
122
00:07:48,635 --> 00:07:51,263
Cookie had been through a lot.
No question about it.
123
00:07:51,346 --> 00:07:53,348
But she deserved so much more.
124
00:07:55,017 --> 00:07:59,062
She didn't deserve
me asking her to marry me
125
00:07:59,146 --> 00:08:01,857
and then breaking the engagement,
what, three times.
126
00:08:02,608 --> 00:08:05,444
She didn't deserve that.
She was a better woman than that.
127
00:08:06,195 --> 00:08:08,655
When you talk about soul mates…
128
00:08:14,077 --> 00:08:15,746
She was the perfect woman for me.
129
00:08:20,083 --> 00:08:22,503
And then my father called me up
and told me,
130
00:08:22,586 --> 00:08:24,796
he said,
"Junior, you better marry that girl.
131
00:08:25,380 --> 00:08:27,424
God blessed you with this woman, man.
132
00:08:27,508 --> 00:08:30,594
You gonna make a mistake.
The biggest mistake of your life."
133
00:08:32,846 --> 00:08:34,306
Then I get a phone call.
134
00:08:35,515 --> 00:08:37,476
He said, "I think I can do this."
135
00:08:37,558 --> 00:08:40,354
I said, "Okay.
The only way we can do this, if we--
136
00:08:40,437 --> 00:08:44,316
When you get back,
we fly directly to Vegas, get married,
137
00:08:44,399 --> 00:08:45,901
and just get it over with."
138
00:08:45,984 --> 00:08:47,319
I said, "I don't need a wedding."
139
00:08:48,487 --> 00:08:50,656
At this point, I was just at my wit's end.
140
00:08:51,657 --> 00:08:52,783
I said, "Let's do this."
141
00:08:52,866 --> 00:08:55,994
She said, "I want a short engagement.
142
00:08:56,078 --> 00:08:59,998
We got to do it now
before you change your mind."
143
00:09:00,082 --> 00:09:02,042
I said, "I am not changing my mind."
144
00:09:08,215 --> 00:09:10,884
I remember thinking,
"What if he doesn't show up?"
145
00:09:12,094 --> 00:09:16,014
I'm still scared
that he's not gonna go through with this
146
00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,017
because he's done it so many times.
147
00:09:19,101 --> 00:09:22,604
It's like that movie The Runaway Bride.
He was the runaway groom.
148
00:09:24,022 --> 00:09:27,985
My dress was
almost two sizes too big for me
149
00:09:28,902 --> 00:09:31,405
because I had lost so much weight
from stress.
150
00:09:34,867 --> 00:09:38,370
I was so nervous and, like,
all my girlfriends were calming me down.
151
00:09:38,453 --> 00:09:39,580
"He's coming, don't worry."
152
00:09:39,663 --> 00:09:42,082
No laughing, no giggling.
153
00:09:42,165 --> 00:09:45,419
No going "Hallelujah" when he says,
"I now pronounce you man and wife."
154
00:09:45,502 --> 00:09:47,129
Every time someone came in, I was like,
155
00:09:47,212 --> 00:09:48,505
"Is he here yet? Is he here yet?"
156
00:09:52,467 --> 00:09:54,678
At that point, we were kinda like, "Okay.
157
00:09:55,429 --> 00:09:58,807
When we get there,
if it's still on, it's still on."
158
00:09:59,391 --> 00:10:03,520
-Right. Right.
-You know? And then…
159
00:10:04,229 --> 00:10:07,649
-And then it was.
-It was. It was amazing.
160
00:10:08,525 --> 00:10:11,403
I kept her waiting for a long time.
161
00:10:11,486 --> 00:10:13,780
And to be at home in Michigan,
162
00:10:13,864 --> 00:10:18,368
to have our family and friends
and the whole state watching,
163
00:10:19,620 --> 00:10:21,038
it was going to be great.
164
00:10:22,873 --> 00:10:25,125
I was standing in the back of the church
with my father,
165
00:10:25,209 --> 00:10:27,044
and they opened the doors,
166
00:10:28,086 --> 00:10:29,463
and I couldn't move.
167
00:10:30,714 --> 00:10:32,966
'Cause I was still thinking, "What if?"
168
00:10:36,303 --> 00:10:39,389
And my dad goes,
"You okay? You gonna do this?"
169
00:10:40,557 --> 00:10:43,101
Took a deep breath
and walked down the aisle.
170
00:10:45,687 --> 00:10:47,898
When I saw her looking so beautiful,
171
00:10:49,441 --> 00:10:50,943
I just started crying.
172
00:10:52,110 --> 00:10:53,779
It was a beautiful moment.
173
00:10:54,279 --> 00:10:57,074
-Cookie looked like a princess.
-Yeah, she did.
174
00:10:57,157 --> 00:11:00,285
She's just beautiful. And Earvin even.
175
00:11:00,369 --> 00:11:03,914
-You could almost see a…
-Yeah, exhale.
176
00:11:03,997 --> 00:11:05,165
Right. Right. Right.
177
00:11:05,249 --> 00:11:08,877
Like, "I got her.
Everything is right. It's all right."
178
00:11:09,419 --> 00:11:14,132
I now pronounce you husband and wife.
179
00:11:14,383 --> 00:11:16,426
You may kiss the bride.
180
00:11:25,602 --> 00:11:27,771
Knowing that now we are together
181
00:11:28,188 --> 00:11:30,482
and we're going to
build something together
182
00:11:31,066 --> 00:11:32,359
was an awesome feeling.
183
00:11:43,537 --> 00:11:46,915
Since we were going
to Paris with the Lakers
184
00:11:46,999 --> 00:11:49,209
to play some of the French teams,
185
00:11:49,293 --> 00:11:52,004
we just said, "Hey, we might as well
make that our honeymoon."
186
00:11:54,882 --> 00:11:57,092
Last night.
All right, I'll get it next time.
187
00:11:57,176 --> 00:12:00,512
Cookie and I are doing
some honeymooning, some sightseeing.
188
00:12:01,013 --> 00:12:04,808
At night, we get to walk
and really enjoy one another.
189
00:12:04,892 --> 00:12:07,352
And it took us really back
to, like, our college days.
190
00:12:07,436 --> 00:12:10,814
I had gotten off the pill,
you know, months ahead
191
00:12:10,898 --> 00:12:12,858
because we were planning
to get married, whatever.
192
00:12:12,941 --> 00:12:16,111
While we were in Paris,
I thought I saw some signs.
193
00:12:16,195 --> 00:12:17,905
Maybe let's take a test.
194
00:12:17,988 --> 00:12:20,657
But we couldn't read it
'cause it was in French.
195
00:12:20,741 --> 00:12:23,076
So one of the maids came in
to clean the room,
196
00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:24,703
and I showed her the little stick,
197
00:12:24,786 --> 00:12:25,787
and she-- I go…
198
00:12:26,246 --> 00:12:28,165
And she goes, "Oui, oui!"
199
00:12:31,627 --> 00:12:35,255
I was so happy
because this is what we both wanted,
200
00:12:35,339 --> 00:12:37,966
to have a kid together.
201
00:12:38,842 --> 00:12:42,346
I finally got married to Cookie,
and she's pregnant now.
202
00:12:42,429 --> 00:12:45,641
And now it's time
to start getting ready for the season.
203
00:12:47,267 --> 00:12:50,646
Now the mission is to beat the Bulls.
204
00:12:50,729 --> 00:12:54,399
We felt, "Man, this is--
This team we got right now--
205
00:12:54,483 --> 00:12:56,068
Yeah, we'll be back in the finals."
206
00:12:57,277 --> 00:12:59,988
So we're six games
into an eight-game preseason.
207
00:13:01,698 --> 00:13:06,119
We fly to Salt Lake. Go to the hotel.
208
00:13:06,203 --> 00:13:08,539
I have these messages to call the office.
209
00:13:09,748 --> 00:13:12,292
And I get on with Jerry,
and it's, "Send Magic home."
210
00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:13,961
"Why?"
211
00:13:14,461 --> 00:13:16,421
"I can't tell you that,
but we need him home."
212
00:13:17,923 --> 00:13:18,924
"Now."
213
00:13:20,801 --> 00:13:24,930
Jerry's never really, like,
spoken to me that way.
214
00:13:25,514 --> 00:13:27,808
Like "I know something
that I want you to know."
215
00:13:28,308 --> 00:13:30,561
So I say, "Okay." I call him.
216
00:13:30,644 --> 00:13:32,521
I said, "Listen, you're going home."
217
00:13:32,604 --> 00:13:35,524
And I say, "Well, okay. For what?"
218
00:13:35,607 --> 00:13:38,735
And he said, "Well, I don't know.
He just said you got to come home."
219
00:13:38,819 --> 00:13:41,321
I said, "We're going home
right after the game,
220
00:13:41,405 --> 00:13:42,948
so why don't I see him tomorrow?"
221
00:13:43,031 --> 00:13:44,783
He said, "No, you got to come home now."
222
00:13:44,867 --> 00:13:47,828
I get a call from Dr. Mellman. He goes,
223
00:13:47,911 --> 00:13:50,831
"He's got to come back from Utah."
I go, "Why?" He goes, "I can't tell you."
224
00:13:51,915 --> 00:13:54,668
"Earvin has to come home."
"Can he play?" "Nope, can't play.
225
00:13:56,128 --> 00:13:59,006
He's gotta come home. Can't participate.
226
00:13:59,590 --> 00:14:01,550
I'll see him in my office
when he gets here."
227
00:14:01,633 --> 00:14:03,677
We're in Utah,
and Magic's supposed to play.
228
00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,973
And then we get to the arena,
and Magic's not there.
229
00:14:08,056 --> 00:14:09,266
They say he went back to LA.
230
00:14:09,349 --> 00:14:11,059
Had the flu, had a cold.
Something like that.
231
00:14:11,143 --> 00:14:14,104
We already did
his preseason physical exam.
232
00:14:14,188 --> 00:14:16,481
Anything that would have come up
233
00:14:17,774 --> 00:14:20,235
would have come up
on his preseason physical exam.
234
00:14:20,319 --> 00:14:22,571
Cancer? I mean, what's he got?
235
00:14:26,033 --> 00:14:29,286
I went straight to Dr. Mellman's office.
236
00:14:30,829 --> 00:14:32,915
So, I think his office was
on the third floor.
237
00:14:34,249 --> 00:14:36,335
It was like 5:30 at this point.
238
00:14:36,418 --> 00:14:37,753
Nobody's in the waiting room.
239
00:14:39,505 --> 00:14:41,798
And then Dr. Mellman opens up the door
240
00:14:41,882 --> 00:14:43,634
and goes, "Hey, Earvin,
why don't you come in?"
241
00:14:45,636 --> 00:14:49,973
I can close my eyes
and recreate what my office looked like
242
00:14:50,057 --> 00:14:52,476
and where he and Lon sat.
243
00:14:53,143 --> 00:14:55,896
Sat down and, you know,
244
00:14:55,979 --> 00:14:59,066
I could tell something was wrong,
'cause he had a look on his face.
245
00:14:59,149 --> 00:15:01,527
And he kind of opens up his desk drawer
246
00:15:01,610 --> 00:15:05,572
and pulls out a FedEx envelope
and pulls out the document.
247
00:15:06,490 --> 00:15:07,824
And he…
248
00:15:15,082 --> 00:15:20,379
And he said, "I got some unfortunate news
that you have HIV."
249
00:15:31,181 --> 00:15:32,850
I just sat there quiet.
250
00:15:34,685 --> 00:15:36,144
I was in disbelief…
251
00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:39,606
just stunned.
252
00:15:43,235 --> 00:15:44,611
I said, "Are you sure?"
253
00:15:48,073 --> 00:15:49,825
Once I got myself together, it was like,
254
00:15:49,908 --> 00:15:51,910
"Okay, well-- So what does this mean?
255
00:15:52,995 --> 00:15:54,371
Am I gonna die?"
256
00:16:00,377 --> 00:16:05,507
And he said,
"Well, we don't quite know yet."
257
00:16:06,091 --> 00:16:09,136
"And, you know, these are my concerns.
258
00:16:09,219 --> 00:16:10,971
I've got a wife. She's pregnant.
259
00:16:11,054 --> 00:16:12,222
What do I tell her?"
260
00:16:14,099 --> 00:16:17,561
We were gonna have this fairy-tale life,
261
00:16:17,644 --> 00:16:21,273
and now I get this devastating news.
262
00:16:21,356 --> 00:16:24,151
So I'm sitting here in this chair like,
"Oh, my goodness.
263
00:16:24,651 --> 00:16:26,528
How am I gonna go home and tell her this?"
264
00:16:30,908 --> 00:16:34,328
I knew that this was going to destroy her,
just hurt her.
265
00:16:43,003 --> 00:16:46,048
I was home preparing to watch the game,
266
00:16:46,131 --> 00:16:47,132
and the phone rang.
267
00:16:47,799 --> 00:16:48,800
And it was Earvin.
268
00:16:49,384 --> 00:16:56,058
He said, "I'm on my way home,
and I'll tell you why when I get there."
269
00:16:57,518 --> 00:17:00,896
I knew it had to be serious
if he wasn't playing in that game.
270
00:17:02,314 --> 00:17:04,148
It was an agonizing wait.
271
00:17:07,736 --> 00:17:10,739
Probably the most difficult thing
I've ever done in my life.
272
00:17:11,823 --> 00:17:16,954
You know, to tell somebody that you love
273
00:17:17,663 --> 00:17:21,458
and somebody who loves you…
274
00:17:24,419 --> 00:17:27,381
When he walked in the door,
he looked at me,
275
00:17:27,464 --> 00:17:30,342
and he said, "We need to talk."
276
00:17:32,177 --> 00:17:35,430
And he said, "I don't know any other way
to say it but to say it.
277
00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:42,229
I tested positive for the HIV virus,
the virus that causes AIDS."
278
00:17:44,439 --> 00:17:47,734
She just started crying and…
279
00:17:49,361 --> 00:17:51,029
that just broke my heart.
280
00:17:51,113 --> 00:17:52,531
You know? Just broke my heart.
281
00:17:55,576 --> 00:17:57,828
"Oh, my God. Are you going to die?"
282
00:18:00,414 --> 00:18:03,542
Everyone we've ever heard about died.
283
00:18:05,878 --> 00:18:07,880
Then she,
"Well, what does that mean for me?
284
00:18:07,963 --> 00:18:10,507
What does that mean for the baby?"
And I can't answer that.
285
00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,594
Oh, my God. My baby.
286
00:18:16,889 --> 00:18:18,432
What about my baby?
287
00:18:21,810 --> 00:18:24,021
What's gonna happen to my baby?
288
00:18:26,982 --> 00:18:29,735
I said, "Oh, no. No."
289
00:18:30,777 --> 00:18:32,487
I said, "You gotta be kidding."
290
00:18:34,281 --> 00:18:35,866
At that time, didn't nobody know.
291
00:18:36,825 --> 00:18:38,202
All they knew, it was death.
292
00:18:38,285 --> 00:18:39,953
We was getting ready to have dinner,
293
00:18:40,037 --> 00:18:43,498
and I got my purse and got in my car.
294
00:18:43,582 --> 00:18:45,250
And I just cried.
295
00:18:45,334 --> 00:18:48,003
And I just prayed,
and I cried, and I prayed.
296
00:18:48,837 --> 00:18:51,840
It's like somebody hit me
in the stomach with a rod.
297
00:18:52,382 --> 00:18:57,262
We were all devastated,
but to see my mom and my dad just hurt
298
00:18:57,971 --> 00:19:01,683
was beyond anything that I could take.
299
00:19:01,767 --> 00:19:04,645
And I said, "Lord, don't take my child.
300
00:19:04,728 --> 00:19:06,813
Don't take my child, Lord.
Please don't take him."
301
00:19:09,066 --> 00:19:12,611
I cried. I just had to have a moment,
you know, to myself.
302
00:19:12,694 --> 00:19:13,695
And.
303
00:19:14,780 --> 00:19:16,990
The phone rang.
My mom was on the phone for a while.
304
00:19:17,491 --> 00:19:20,202
And then she said,
"Your dad wants to talk to you."
305
00:19:21,245 --> 00:19:24,039
And I remember him
just trying to explain it.
306
00:19:24,122 --> 00:19:27,084
Like, "You know, I've contracted this HIV.
307
00:19:27,167 --> 00:19:28,752
Doctors don't know a lot about it.
308
00:19:29,253 --> 00:19:30,587
I'm gonna be okay."
309
00:19:30,671 --> 00:19:34,925
Then talking to my mom.
Just trying to figure it out, what it is.
310
00:19:35,008 --> 00:19:39,721
You talk to doctors. Doctors are saying,
"Spend as much time with him as you can
311
00:19:39,805 --> 00:19:44,893
because he's not-- probably not gonna live
more than a few years."
312
00:19:49,398 --> 00:19:53,735
We got up the next morning,
went to the doctor's office.
313
00:19:54,403 --> 00:19:55,779
And he tested me.
314
00:19:56,655 --> 00:19:58,740
It took days to get your results back.
315
00:20:00,409 --> 00:20:03,579
That was agonizing, not knowing.
316
00:20:04,246 --> 00:20:06,248
That was the worst time in my life,
317
00:20:06,331 --> 00:20:08,876
just waiting and waiting and thinking…
318
00:20:10,669 --> 00:20:14,173
about my parents,
my brothers and sisters, my son Andre.
319
00:20:14,756 --> 00:20:17,092
Do I have to get my affairs in order?
320
00:20:17,843 --> 00:20:20,053
I thought I was facing death.
321
00:20:21,013 --> 00:20:23,140
I didn't sleep. I was just thinking about…
322
00:20:25,142 --> 00:20:28,604
"Is this the last time
that she gonna be in my arms?"
323
00:20:32,566 --> 00:20:34,526
Him and Cookie drove over.
324
00:20:35,194 --> 00:20:37,279
They pull up, and the door opens.
325
00:20:39,698 --> 00:20:40,782
Nothing but tears.
326
00:20:41,366 --> 00:20:43,410
I mean, what do you say?
What do you do?
327
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,246
And Earvin goes,
"Okay, let's you and I go.
328
00:20:46,788 --> 00:20:48,707
We'll go for a walk to the beach."
329
00:20:49,291 --> 00:20:53,545
We just start walking,
and he just starts talking.
330
00:20:55,464 --> 00:20:57,925
And I was telling him,
"If anything happens,
331
00:20:58,008 --> 00:21:00,260
you know, you make sure
you take care of my family."
332
00:21:01,220 --> 00:21:03,639
"I guess I gotta stop
playing basketball."
333
00:21:03,722 --> 00:21:08,060
And at one point, he said,
"I don't know if I want to live.
334
00:21:08,143 --> 00:21:10,312
I might just end it. I might just--"
335
00:21:19,905 --> 00:21:22,574
His blood was sent to a doctor,
Dr. David Ho
336
00:21:22,658 --> 00:21:24,576
at the Aaron Diamond AIDS Institute.
337
00:21:25,077 --> 00:21:29,373
I got involved with HIV/AIDS
way back in 1980.
338
00:21:29,456 --> 00:21:31,458
I grew up in Los Angeles,
339
00:21:31,542 --> 00:21:36,088
and ever since I was a teenager,
I've been a Los Angeles Laker fan.
340
00:21:36,171 --> 00:21:39,132
And so, who wouldn't know
who Magic was?
341
00:21:40,884 --> 00:21:43,720
He called,
and he said, "Earvin's very ill.
342
00:21:43,804 --> 00:21:45,722
His T cell count is 203."
343
00:21:46,348 --> 00:21:50,644
At that point,
you're on what's called "the line."
344
00:21:50,727 --> 00:21:52,145
At 200, you're AIDS.
345
00:21:52,229 --> 00:21:54,064
It was of great concern.
346
00:21:54,147 --> 00:21:57,442
Obviously, that is near the limit
347
00:21:57,526 --> 00:22:01,238
below which he would be
prone to a number of infections.
348
00:22:01,321 --> 00:22:04,074
And talked about life expectancy.
349
00:22:04,157 --> 00:22:06,410
Two, three years at the most.
350
00:22:06,493 --> 00:22:07,703
I wasn't optimistic
351
00:22:07,786 --> 00:22:12,791
that a T cell count in the 200s
would sustain him for another five years.
352
00:22:12,875 --> 00:22:18,463
T cells help the immune system
to respond to certain infections,
353
00:22:18,547 --> 00:22:22,801
to make antibodies,
to make other killer T cell responses.
354
00:22:23,468 --> 00:22:26,763
So by depleting this cell population,
355
00:22:26,847 --> 00:22:31,268
HIV sort of zeroes in on the orchestrator
of the immune response.
356
00:22:31,351 --> 00:22:35,856
And therefore,
a person cannot control the assault
357
00:22:35,939 --> 00:22:39,818
from the various pathogens
that we have in our environment.
358
00:22:39,902 --> 00:22:44,573
I have been involved
in the response to this pandemic
359
00:22:44,656 --> 00:22:49,244
literally since the first few weeks
that we knew it was a new disease.
360
00:22:49,870 --> 00:22:53,707
The advances over the last
ten years in molecular biology
361
00:22:53,790 --> 00:22:56,210
have allowed scientists here at the NIH
362
00:22:56,293 --> 00:22:59,338
and in NIH-supported universities
throughout the country
363
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:04,885
to be able to, as we call it,
map the genome of the AIDS virus.
364
00:23:04,968 --> 00:23:07,763
That was a critical time, 1991,
365
00:23:07,846 --> 00:23:10,641
because we didn't have
the optimal drugs then.
366
00:23:10,724 --> 00:23:15,103
If you were diagnosed early,
you could get lucky.
367
00:23:15,187 --> 00:23:20,317
My advice was, let's use the current drugs
to slow things down
368
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,320
to preserve your immune system
as much as possible.
369
00:23:23,403 --> 00:23:27,574
And a little bit down the line,
there would be better drugs available.
370
00:23:27,658 --> 00:23:30,494
We only had one drug at that time, AZT.
371
00:23:30,577 --> 00:23:36,291
And you had to take five,
three times a day.
372
00:23:36,375 --> 00:23:38,710
So, it was taking its toll.
373
00:23:38,794 --> 00:23:43,382
AZT caused a lot of nausea,
vomiting, anemia.
374
00:23:43,465 --> 00:23:47,761
What we didn't know was
whether extreme physical exertion
375
00:23:47,845 --> 00:23:50,347
that would take place
in a professional athlete
376
00:23:50,430 --> 00:23:52,224
would be harmful to his health.
377
00:23:53,225 --> 00:23:56,311
Dr. Ho said,
"He can't play basketball anymore.
378
00:23:57,229 --> 00:23:58,689
You're done with basketball."
379
00:24:00,065 --> 00:24:02,109
He didn't even tell his teammates.
380
00:24:02,192 --> 00:24:03,861
So, Earvin, Cookie, and I spoke.
381
00:24:03,944 --> 00:24:05,612
And first, Cookie was,
382
00:24:06,488 --> 00:24:07,823
"We're not gonna go public with this.
383
00:24:07,906 --> 00:24:09,992
We're just gonna say
he's retiring from basketball."
384
00:24:10,075 --> 00:24:12,786
I can handle, you know,
fighting this thing one day at a time,
385
00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:14,329
you know, with you privately,
386
00:24:14,413 --> 00:24:17,875
but I was not okay
with telling the entire world.
387
00:24:19,251 --> 00:24:22,546
If you tell people, then people are
gonna start treating us differently.
388
00:24:23,547 --> 00:24:26,049
They're not gonna,
you know, want us around.
389
00:24:26,133 --> 00:24:29,928
They're gonna be scared to touch us.
You know things like that.
390
00:24:30,012 --> 00:24:32,264
You're supposed to be forthcoming
with the press
391
00:24:32,347 --> 00:24:34,766
and keep them
apprised of what's going on.
392
00:24:34,850 --> 00:24:36,935
You don't have to tell
them everything that's going on.
393
00:24:37,019 --> 00:24:41,607
But this was gonna be a national story,
world story.
394
00:24:42,149 --> 00:24:43,609
"What are we gonna say?"
395
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,069
Because everybody's asking me.
396
00:24:46,653 --> 00:24:48,572
"We're gonna tell 'em
that we have the flu."
397
00:24:48,655 --> 00:24:51,533
In sports, it's opening night for the NBA.
398
00:24:51,617 --> 00:24:53,827
The regular season tips off with 12 games.
399
00:24:53,911 --> 00:24:57,247
And the big question is,
can Air Jordan keep Chicago soaring?
400
00:24:57,331 --> 00:24:59,666
Johnson appeared at practice two days ago
401
00:24:59,750 --> 00:25:02,711
after missing the Lakers'
first three games due to the flu.
402
00:25:02,794 --> 00:25:06,048
He spoke to the press,
saying he expects to be back in play soon.
403
00:25:06,131 --> 00:25:09,510
You don't wanna pull something
or hurt yourself
404
00:25:09,593 --> 00:25:11,345
because you haven't been practicing.
405
00:25:11,428 --> 00:25:15,015
So, since I haven't been practicing,
I had to get some practice time in.
406
00:25:15,098 --> 00:25:17,309
Make sure that
I get in some kind of shape.
407
00:25:17,392 --> 00:25:18,810
Looking around, I already--
408
00:25:18,894 --> 00:25:20,854
-You feel better, man?
-I feel better. I feel better.
409
00:25:20,938 --> 00:25:22,523
-You playing tonight?
-I gotta miss you tonight.
410
00:25:22,606 --> 00:25:24,191
-You gonna miss me?
-I'm gonna miss you tonight.
411
00:25:24,274 --> 00:25:26,527
-Well, I see you Christmas.
-…for tonight, man.
412
00:25:26,610 --> 00:25:28,403
You got it. Man, how you doing, baby?
413
00:25:29,780 --> 00:25:32,241
I mean, there was questions every day.
414
00:25:32,324 --> 00:25:35,911
And as each day passed,
415
00:25:35,994 --> 00:25:41,250
there were greater doubts
about the flu story.
416
00:25:41,333 --> 00:25:43,544
Eyebrows were raised among the media.
417
00:25:44,753 --> 00:25:46,129
Wanting to be respectful
418
00:25:46,213 --> 00:25:49,424
and wanting to believe
everything that we were being told,
419
00:25:49,508 --> 00:25:51,927
but also realizing, "Wait a minute."
420
00:25:53,136 --> 00:25:55,305
We don't track down every single thing.
421
00:25:55,389 --> 00:25:58,976
If somebody bruises a fingernail
or something like that
422
00:25:59,643 --> 00:26:03,689
or has a bad stomachache,
we don't really think it's something else.
423
00:26:03,772 --> 00:26:07,025
But there was more to this
than met the eye.
424
00:26:07,109 --> 00:26:08,402
People would kind of--
425
00:26:09,152 --> 00:26:12,823
Just kind of whisper, and go, "No, no.
I'm sure it's nothing."
426
00:26:12,906 --> 00:26:14,366
I have to lie to my family.
427
00:26:14,867 --> 00:26:18,537
I have to lie to my team, my head coach.
428
00:26:18,620 --> 00:26:20,289
I had to lie to the world. Okay?
429
00:26:20,998 --> 00:26:23,000
We lied to the entire world.
430
00:26:23,083 --> 00:26:26,128
Every day I remember waking up
with this fear, like,
431
00:26:26,628 --> 00:26:30,507
"Oh, my God. Today, it's still here."
432
00:26:31,049 --> 00:26:34,178
Every day, going, "Okay,
but we gonna make it through this day.
433
00:26:34,261 --> 00:26:36,763
With the Lord,
we gonna make it through this day.
434
00:26:36,847 --> 00:26:38,849
We got to have faith, and we can do this."
435
00:26:41,602 --> 00:26:43,770
So we went back in to get the results.
436
00:26:44,938 --> 00:26:46,773
I thought I was gonna pass out.
437
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,612
They said,
"The good news is, you don't have it.
438
00:26:51,695 --> 00:26:53,780
If you don't have it,
the baby won't have it."
439
00:26:54,865 --> 00:26:56,867
Man, I got those results back.
440
00:26:58,535 --> 00:26:59,786
We both hugged each other.
441
00:26:59,870 --> 00:27:01,205
And I went in the back…
442
00:27:02,873 --> 00:27:04,499
and I cried like a baby, man.
443
00:27:06,460 --> 00:27:09,546
I felt that I had something to live for.
444
00:27:12,090 --> 00:27:16,678
Then I had to find somebody
who's living with the disease
445
00:27:16,762 --> 00:27:23,352
that could help me understand
what my journey is gonna be now.
446
00:27:24,478 --> 00:27:26,522
What is my everyday life going to be?
447
00:27:28,232 --> 00:27:29,525
I am honored to introduce
448
00:27:29,608 --> 00:27:31,777
a woman who has been
an inspiration to millions,
449
00:27:32,277 --> 00:27:34,655
who has been living with HIV
for 11 years,
450
00:27:35,322 --> 00:27:39,660
the cofounder of the Pediatric AIDS
Foundation, Elizabeth Glaser. Thank you.
451
00:27:43,121 --> 00:27:46,375
I reached out to Elizabeth Glaser.
I had read an article about her.
452
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,211
And I wanted Earvin to meet her.
453
00:27:49,962 --> 00:27:51,380
Eleven years ago…
454
00:27:52,965 --> 00:27:56,051
while giving birth to my first child,
455
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:02,140
I hemorrhaged and was transfused
with seven pints of blood.
456
00:28:03,183 --> 00:28:08,480
Four years later, I found out that
I had been infected with the AIDS virus
457
00:28:09,106 --> 00:28:13,151
and had unknowingly passed it
to my daughter, Ariel,
458
00:28:13,235 --> 00:28:14,903
through my breast milk,
459
00:28:14,987 --> 00:28:17,531
and my son, Jake, in utero.
460
00:28:17,614 --> 00:28:19,575
I was having a conversation with Lon,
461
00:28:20,075 --> 00:28:23,704
really trying to decide
what I was going to do,
462
00:28:23,787 --> 00:28:29,084
discussing the pros and cons
of coming out, not coming out…
463
00:28:30,627 --> 00:28:31,795
telling the world.
464
00:28:33,088 --> 00:28:35,757
I asked her. I said,
"What should I do?" You know.
465
00:28:35,841 --> 00:28:39,887
And she wanted-- She didn't even hesitate.
"You should go public with it."
466
00:28:40,888 --> 00:28:43,765
"I want you to become
the face of the disease.
467
00:28:43,849 --> 00:28:47,186
I want you to become a face of AIDS.
We need a face."
468
00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:50,147
When we were told our medical situation--
469
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:56,528
our family had three members who had AIDS
or were infected with the HIV virus--
470
00:28:56,612 --> 00:29:01,783
our doctor said, "Don't tell anyone.
The world is not ready for your family."
471
00:29:01,867 --> 00:29:05,120
She goes,
"Magic Johnson's gonna save my son's life.
472
00:29:05,204 --> 00:29:07,122
I'm not gonna live. My daughter's dead.
473
00:29:08,081 --> 00:29:09,499
He's gonna save Jake's life.
474
00:29:10,042 --> 00:29:12,377
He's gonna put a name and a face to this."
475
00:29:12,461 --> 00:29:15,088
When we met her,
she just gave us so much hope
476
00:29:15,923 --> 00:29:17,591
just by being in her presence.
477
00:29:17,674 --> 00:29:19,384
Because she was mad,
and she was just like,
478
00:29:19,468 --> 00:29:21,386
"Get involved as much as you can.
479
00:29:21,470 --> 00:29:24,598
Get involved with them,
you know, trying to find a cure.
480
00:29:24,681 --> 00:29:27,142
Get involved
with supporting people who have it.
481
00:29:27,226 --> 00:29:30,979
You know, just, you know, get involved.
You know, care."
482
00:29:32,105 --> 00:29:36,401
I realized that God puts people
in a position for a purpose.
483
00:29:37,402 --> 00:29:40,113
And I believe his purpose was
484
00:29:40,197 --> 00:29:42,991
to be the face of this thing
and to be out there
485
00:29:43,075 --> 00:29:46,161
and try to support
and save as many people as possible.
486
00:29:46,245 --> 00:29:48,205
So that night in my house
on November 6th, we said,
487
00:29:48,288 --> 00:29:50,832
"We're gonna do a press conference
on Friday, November 8th.
488
00:29:50,916 --> 00:29:52,417
We need a day to put it together."
489
00:29:53,001 --> 00:29:55,212
Great. Done.
490
00:29:56,338 --> 00:29:59,925
Gives Earvin time,
gives us all time to properly plan this.
491
00:30:04,346 --> 00:30:05,806
Normal day, right?
492
00:30:05,889 --> 00:30:08,517
Get ready for a press conference
the next day. I go to my office early.
493
00:30:09,268 --> 00:30:14,690
And about 9:00 in the morning,
I get a call from a local radio reporter,
494
00:30:14,773 --> 00:30:19,403
and he says to me, "Lon, I have a report
that Earvin has AIDS."
495
00:30:19,987 --> 00:30:22,281
I got called
into the News Director's office.
496
00:30:22,364 --> 00:30:27,536
And the News Director says,
"Okay, we have a tip.
497
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:32,875
Magic has HIV, and he's gonna retire."
498
00:30:33,917 --> 00:30:35,294
Immediately I got on the phone.
499
00:30:35,377 --> 00:30:40,591
I said, "Randy,
please do not release this information.
500
00:30:40,674 --> 00:30:42,134
I will call you back,
501
00:30:42,217 --> 00:30:44,761
but please do not release
this information."
502
00:30:45,262 --> 00:30:47,264
"Tell me if there's anything to this."
503
00:30:48,849 --> 00:30:50,267
And he didn't say no.
504
00:30:51,143 --> 00:30:54,646
When that tip came in
and it sounded so solid,
505
00:30:55,314 --> 00:30:56,982
that explained a lot of things.
506
00:30:57,065 --> 00:31:00,319
That explained
why we aren't hearing anything about it.
507
00:31:00,402 --> 00:31:02,988
Why everything is shrouded in mystery.
508
00:31:03,572 --> 00:31:06,241
While I was in the car,
we broke the story.
509
00:31:06,325 --> 00:31:09,870
I felt like my world was coming to an end.
510
00:31:10,662 --> 00:31:14,666
My friend is now gonna be public
with this.
511
00:31:14,750 --> 00:31:16,251
We're at Loyola, practicing,
512
00:31:17,294 --> 00:31:21,173
and I get a call from Jerry West.
513
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,426
And Jerry says, "There's been a leak.
514
00:31:25,552 --> 00:31:31,433
And there's been a radio personality
reporting that Magic's HIV positive.
515
00:31:31,517 --> 00:31:33,727
Get everybody out of the gym."
516
00:31:33,810 --> 00:31:37,189
So Gary Vitti comes out in the middle
of practice and says, "Look…
517
00:31:38,941 --> 00:31:43,237
You guys get in your car
and go straight to the Forum.
518
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,864
Don't stop. Don't talk to anybody."
519
00:31:47,658 --> 00:31:50,118
I said, "Listen, cancel everything.
520
00:31:50,869 --> 00:31:52,371
Meet back at the Forum.
521
00:31:53,830 --> 00:31:57,209
What you hear today
will change your life."
522
00:31:58,836 --> 00:32:00,629
I go straight to the Forum.
523
00:32:01,380 --> 00:32:04,925
They said, "Earvin's having a press
conference. He'd like you to be there."
524
00:32:05,008 --> 00:32:07,010
"Think you can come?
It's really important."
525
00:32:07,094 --> 00:32:08,095
They wouldn't tell me.
526
00:32:08,178 --> 00:32:11,139
Eventually, everybody gets there,
527
00:32:11,223 --> 00:32:12,850
and we go into the locker room.
528
00:32:18,146 --> 00:32:19,815
I wasn't ready to retire.
529
00:32:21,984 --> 00:32:23,902
I wasn't ready to say goodbye to them.
530
00:32:25,863 --> 00:32:29,241
Probably the hardest part
of all of this is knowing
531
00:32:29,324 --> 00:32:31,785
that I wasn't gonna go to war
with them no more.
532
00:32:31,869 --> 00:32:33,245
He went around the room,
533
00:32:34,705 --> 00:32:39,209
and he gave each guy a hug
and whispered something in their ear.
534
00:32:39,293 --> 00:32:43,130
You know, from his mouth to our ears,
he told us everything that was happening.
535
00:32:43,213 --> 00:32:44,548
There wasn't a dry eye in there.
536
00:32:45,382 --> 00:32:47,217
It was stupefying, you know?
537
00:32:47,301 --> 00:32:48,886
But I wanted to be there for him.
538
00:32:49,386 --> 00:32:51,346
You know, he was always there for me.
539
00:32:51,430 --> 00:32:54,016
We just could not believe
what we were hearing.
540
00:32:55,601 --> 00:32:58,729
We just sat there. Numb.
541
00:32:59,813 --> 00:33:00,939
This is your brother.
542
00:33:01,481 --> 00:33:04,818
You spent years
and years with this person.
543
00:33:04,902 --> 00:33:10,407
And you hear these words come out
of someone in your family's mouth,
544
00:33:10,490 --> 00:33:12,826
and it's devastating.
545
00:33:12,910 --> 00:33:16,288
I started crying.
I said, "Hey, how'd this happen?"
546
00:33:18,332 --> 00:33:21,752
Most of us were thinking,
"Death is coming."
547
00:33:23,921 --> 00:33:26,340
It was just a numb feeling.
548
00:33:26,423 --> 00:33:27,841
You hear about it on the news,
549
00:33:29,092 --> 00:33:30,969
but you just don't expect it
to be somebody
550
00:33:31,053 --> 00:33:34,181
that you spend most of your time with,
who's your family.
551
00:33:34,264 --> 00:33:35,265
And…
552
00:33:36,850 --> 00:33:43,065
then he went upstairs and told the world.
553
00:33:53,450 --> 00:33:55,160
Okay, he's gonna come over here.
554
00:34:06,755 --> 00:34:07,756
We are still waiting.
555
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,510
And obviously, the anticipation is getting
worse and worse.
556
00:34:11,592 --> 00:34:13,929
We would like to get an answer
sooner or later.
557
00:34:14,012 --> 00:34:16,181
Quickly tell us what is going on here.
558
00:34:16,264 --> 00:34:18,266
It is a very tense place.
559
00:34:20,060 --> 00:34:23,897
Laker front office.
Jerry Buss, owner of the Lakers.
560
00:34:23,981 --> 00:34:26,065
And here comes Magic Johnson
toward the podium.
561
00:34:26,149 --> 00:34:27,359
Let's go to Magic.
562
00:35:05,189 --> 00:35:08,192
First of all, let me say
good after-- late afternoon.
563
00:35:10,194 --> 00:35:11,278
because of…
564
00:35:13,655 --> 00:35:16,867
the HIV virus that I have attained,
565
00:35:17,826 --> 00:35:21,914
I will have to retire
from the Lakers, today.
566
00:35:24,541 --> 00:35:25,876
I just want to make clear,
first of all,
567
00:35:25,959 --> 00:35:28,921
that I do not have the AIDS disease.
568
00:35:29,004 --> 00:35:32,007
'Cause I know a lot of you
are conce-- want to know that.
569
00:35:32,090 --> 00:35:33,842
But the HIV virus…
570
00:35:33,926 --> 00:35:36,595
I just want to say
that I'm gonna miss playing.
571
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:38,805
And,
572
00:35:39,598 --> 00:35:43,519
I will now become a spokesman
for the HIV virus.
573
00:35:43,602 --> 00:35:46,480
It's another challenge, another chapter
in my life that--
574
00:35:46,563 --> 00:35:49,566
It's like being--
Your back is against the wall.
575
00:35:50,067 --> 00:35:52,277
And I think that
you just have to come out swinging,
576
00:35:52,361 --> 00:35:53,946
and I'm swinging.
577
00:35:54,029 --> 00:35:56,823
We begin tonight with the fate
of a single individual.
578
00:35:56,907 --> 00:36:00,327
The basketball star Magic Johnson
confirmed a short while ago…
579
00:36:00,410 --> 00:36:02,371
The news is so shocking and so unexpected,
580
00:36:02,454 --> 00:36:05,332
it is difficult to absorb it
even as we report it.
581
00:36:09,294 --> 00:36:11,421
The official word came moments ago.
582
00:36:11,505 --> 00:36:16,051
The dazzling career of one of the world's
best-known athletes is over.
583
00:36:16,552 --> 00:36:17,970
He is only 32 years old.
584
00:36:18,053 --> 00:36:20,556
People everywhere have been talking
of little else
585
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:23,725
than basketball superstar Magic Johnson.
586
00:36:23,809 --> 00:36:26,270
Magic called me and told me of the news.
587
00:36:26,353 --> 00:36:29,606
And I was just like
most people in America.
588
00:36:29,690 --> 00:36:33,026
I was very shocked devastated about it.
589
00:36:33,110 --> 00:36:36,572
You know, just out the blue
something like that happening. It just--
590
00:36:36,655 --> 00:36:39,825
Yesterday was just a sad day.
591
00:36:39,908 --> 00:36:43,912
I know he's not dead, but it's kinda like
somewhat of a death of a brother,
592
00:36:43,996 --> 00:36:45,163
a death in the family.
593
00:36:45,247 --> 00:36:47,332
I remember just sitting
in my office crying.
594
00:36:47,416 --> 00:36:50,127
Bewildered.
I remember bursting into tears, you know?
595
00:36:50,210 --> 00:36:53,463
Just 'cause we all thought
it was a death sentence.
596
00:36:53,547 --> 00:36:56,091
He is alive but not very well right now.
597
00:36:56,175 --> 00:37:01,763
And, you know, we do not,
you know, want to eulogize him.
598
00:37:01,847 --> 00:37:02,973
It was heartbreaking.
599
00:37:03,056 --> 00:37:04,766
Not just because of
600
00:37:05,392 --> 00:37:08,187
his extraordinary basketball career,
601
00:37:08,270 --> 00:37:13,317
but also because of the joy
and infectious sort of smile,
602
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,821
had become
a staple of our culture.
603
00:37:17,905 --> 00:37:19,615
There are a lot of people
who want to be your friend
604
00:37:19,698 --> 00:37:23,660
when you're standing underneath the basket
making assists and throwing sweet passes.
605
00:37:23,744 --> 00:37:26,872
But this when you find out
who your true friends are.
606
00:37:26,955 --> 00:37:30,792
If he truly wants to be an educator,
it will be appropriate for him,
607
00:37:30,876 --> 00:37:35,547
not in some tabloid sense,
not in some inappropriately prying sense,
608
00:37:35,631 --> 00:37:40,010
but in some way, it will be appropriate
for him to discuss his sexual history
609
00:37:40,093 --> 00:37:42,513
and to address
how he may have contracted AIDS.
610
00:37:42,596 --> 00:37:44,181
How did he get it?
611
00:37:44,264 --> 00:37:47,392
Why is that so important?
What does it matter how anyone got it?
612
00:37:47,476 --> 00:37:51,230
We judge people with HIV
based on how they got it.
613
00:37:51,313 --> 00:37:53,941
Up till now, it's always been thought of
in this country
614
00:37:54,024 --> 00:37:57,152
as a gay or intravenous drug user disease.
615
00:37:57,736 --> 00:37:59,905
Curiosity about people with AIDS
616
00:37:59,988 --> 00:38:02,658
has often been limited
to one hostile question:
617
00:38:02,741 --> 00:38:03,742
How did they get it?
618
00:38:03,825 --> 00:38:05,911
Johnson talks about his lifestyle
and says,
619
00:38:05,994 --> 00:38:09,331
"I did my best to accommodate
as many women as I could,
620
00:38:09,414 --> 00:38:11,875
most of them through unprotected sex."
621
00:38:12,918 --> 00:38:14,628
Isn't there a moral message,
622
00:38:14,711 --> 00:38:18,131
and isn't that the prevention message
that he should be carrying?
623
00:38:18,215 --> 00:38:20,384
When I find out he got AIDS,
624
00:38:20,467 --> 00:38:22,594
I guess I ain't gonna be wearing
that shirt no more.
625
00:38:25,681 --> 00:38:29,393
I had to come to grips
with saying, "Hey, this is a part of it."
626
00:38:30,060 --> 00:38:34,648
I can't… be upset,
627
00:38:34,731 --> 00:38:35,941
even though I was.
628
00:38:36,650 --> 00:38:40,904
It was like, "What do I do
with myself sitting around on this couch?"
629
00:38:40,988 --> 00:38:43,615
And I remember thinking, "This isn't you."
630
00:38:44,783 --> 00:38:47,286
Three of eight shooting for Larry. Three--
631
00:38:47,369 --> 00:38:50,914
This is not the same basketball team,
you know, when Magic was running the show.
632
00:38:50,998 --> 00:38:52,124
There's no question about it.
633
00:38:52,207 --> 00:38:54,751
I'm sitting here having this pity party.
634
00:38:54,835 --> 00:38:56,795
And then I needed to feel the love too.
635
00:38:56,879 --> 00:39:02,092
You know, you needed something
to also make you feel better
636
00:39:02,176 --> 00:39:06,346
about your new status of living with HIV.
637
00:39:06,430 --> 00:39:09,683
No one is saying exactly
how Magic was infected with the virus,
638
00:39:09,766 --> 00:39:12,394
but the point now is that
he intends to do something about it
639
00:39:12,477 --> 00:39:16,064
by becoming a spokesman for AIDS research
and the safe sex movement.
640
00:39:16,148 --> 00:39:17,316
And that begins tonight,
641
00:39:17,399 --> 00:39:19,735
when he'll appear
on The Arsenio Hall Show.
642
00:39:36,126 --> 00:39:39,880
Phone rings, I pick it up, and it's Magic.
643
00:39:41,298 --> 00:39:44,718
So he said, "I should come on the show
tonight and talk to America."
644
00:39:45,385 --> 00:39:48,680
I said,
"Yo, shouldn't we do this at Larry King?"
645
00:39:49,765 --> 00:39:51,850
And he said, "No. You gotta do this.
646
00:39:52,434 --> 00:39:53,810
We gotta do this."
647
00:39:54,394 --> 00:39:57,564
"You gotta help me live forever."
I never forgot that sentence.
648
00:39:57,648 --> 00:39:58,982
"You gotta help me live forever."
649
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,485
And he came out.
650
00:40:02,236 --> 00:40:05,113
I just remember how long the ovation was.
651
00:40:05,656 --> 00:40:06,698
Man.
652
00:40:17,042 --> 00:40:20,629
I needed to hear
the roar of the crowd one more time.
653
00:40:22,506 --> 00:40:23,674
And I heard it.
654
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:33,141
I needed something to make me feel better
about my new status,
655
00:40:33,225 --> 00:40:35,060
living with HIV.
656
00:40:35,143 --> 00:40:37,104
And Arsenio gave that to me.
657
00:40:38,272 --> 00:40:40,232
Man, it made me feel so much better.
658
00:40:41,233 --> 00:40:42,901
That I was gonna be okay.
659
00:40:46,822 --> 00:40:48,198
I didn't wanna do it
660
00:40:48,282 --> 00:40:52,703
because I knew there were questions
that I was supposed to ask Earvin.
661
00:40:53,287 --> 00:40:55,038
And as a friend, I didn't wanna ask him.
662
00:40:55,122 --> 00:40:56,915
But he told me,
663
00:40:56,999 --> 00:40:58,834
"Don't hold anything back.
664
00:40:58,917 --> 00:41:03,755
Ask every question that you would ask
if it was someone else other than me."
665
00:41:03,839 --> 00:41:07,134
Obviously, there are people who,
in the back of their mind,
666
00:41:07,217 --> 00:41:12,890
think that this might be
a homosexual relationship disease.
667
00:41:12,973 --> 00:41:15,267
He looked me right in the eyes,
and he said,
668
00:41:15,350 --> 00:41:19,855
"I have to tell as many people as possible
669
00:41:19,938 --> 00:41:22,941
because people think
that this is just a gay disease.
670
00:41:23,025 --> 00:41:26,737
They don't think anybody else can
catch this disease or get this disease."
671
00:41:26,820 --> 00:41:31,325
President Bush has invited Magic
to join the National Commission on AIDS.
672
00:41:31,408 --> 00:41:35,204
Johnson is mulling over the offer
and has yet to make up his mind.
673
00:41:35,287 --> 00:41:40,167
I wrote him a letter, a personal letter
some time ago
674
00:41:40,250 --> 00:41:41,835
and said that I recognize
675
00:41:41,919 --> 00:41:46,173
there are all kinds of opportunities
now to serve mankind
676
00:41:46,256 --> 00:41:48,133
and I'd love to have him
on this commission.
677
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,888
So, I flew out to DC
and met with President Bush,
678
00:41:52,971 --> 00:41:54,598
and I decided to join.
679
00:41:54,681 --> 00:41:59,853
Well, there's money, funding here,
prevention, research, care.
680
00:42:00,604 --> 00:42:02,481
So I'ma come at him
with figures and numbers
681
00:42:02,564 --> 00:42:04,274
that will probably blow his mind.
682
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,695
The first thing I wanted to do was
to educate myself more
683
00:42:08,779 --> 00:42:11,323
about not only the disease
684
00:42:11,406 --> 00:42:15,911
but also how has it been affecting
the Black community.
685
00:42:15,994 --> 00:42:19,540
It was a new mantle Earvin
"Magic" Johnson wore into this hall.
686
00:42:19,623 --> 00:42:21,959
Not of the LA Laker megastar he was,
687
00:42:22,042 --> 00:42:24,628
but of the National Aids Commissioner
he now is.
688
00:42:24,711 --> 00:42:26,880
We don't have a voice, Magic.
689
00:42:26,964 --> 00:42:31,969
We don't have anybody to stand up for us
and speak about things in our lives.
690
00:42:32,052 --> 00:42:33,136
We need you.
691
00:42:33,220 --> 00:42:35,848
It was a much different time, 1991.
692
00:42:35,931 --> 00:42:38,934
There were people who wouldn't shake
Earvin's hand, wouldn't give him a hug.
693
00:42:39,017 --> 00:42:42,062
I now hear you can get it
from toilet seats.
694
00:42:42,145 --> 00:42:45,399
-Do you ever worry about it?
-I just think it's not gonna happen to me.
695
00:42:45,482 --> 00:42:48,402
We have to put aside prejudice
for people who are infected.
696
00:42:48,485 --> 00:42:50,070
We have to look at it for what it is.
697
00:42:51,405 --> 00:42:53,574
It's an infection that can be transmitted
698
00:42:53,657 --> 00:42:56,493
in certain ways
that we're absolutely certain
699
00:42:56,577 --> 00:42:59,955
and certain ways it cannot be transmitted
that we're absolutely certain.
700
00:43:00,038 --> 00:43:03,000
And we have to keep drilling that home
to the people of this country.
701
00:43:03,083 --> 00:43:04,710
You know, I was getting smarter.
702
00:43:05,294 --> 00:43:06,503
I was getting better.
703
00:43:07,129 --> 00:43:09,840
I felt I needed to get out.
704
00:43:09,923 --> 00:43:11,466
People wanna help.
705
00:43:11,550 --> 00:43:13,927
And they've said,
"We're gonna raise a lot of money,
706
00:43:14,011 --> 00:43:16,847
and we want you to help educate people
about HIV and AIDS
707
00:43:16,930 --> 00:43:19,224
as well as raise the awareness level."
708
00:43:19,308 --> 00:43:22,102
I was always a person who was out anyway,
709
00:43:22,186 --> 00:43:27,900
so I wasn't gonna let HIV stop me
from being a person out in the public.
710
00:43:28,525 --> 00:43:33,238
He's always been aware of who Earvin was
and also who Magic was.
711
00:43:34,072 --> 00:43:37,284
So he's always been aware
that this was a unique opportunity
712
00:43:37,367 --> 00:43:39,828
for him to take advantage of his status
713
00:43:39,912 --> 00:43:42,748
and also to live up to
some responsibilities,
714
00:43:43,415 --> 00:43:45,709
being Magic Johnson
as opposed to Earvin.
715
00:43:45,792 --> 00:43:48,295
There were people who wanted more,
716
00:43:48,378 --> 00:43:51,340
who wanted to-- who wanted the story.
717
00:43:51,423 --> 00:43:54,551
And he owned up to his lifestyle.
718
00:43:54,635 --> 00:43:58,931
Women have different fantasies.
Some want to be with two, three at a time.
719
00:43:59,014 --> 00:44:01,391
You know, one time I had six at one time.
That's just--
720
00:44:01,475 --> 00:44:03,227
-Six women?
-Six women.
721
00:44:03,310 --> 00:44:05,729
If you ask me if I had fun,
yes, I had fun.
722
00:44:06,813 --> 00:44:10,150
But… you pay for it.
723
00:44:10,984 --> 00:44:12,861
Did you know about all these other women?
724
00:44:12,945 --> 00:44:15,280
Not really. I mean,
it was one of those things where--
725
00:44:15,364 --> 00:44:16,949
We had a long-distance relationship
726
00:44:17,032 --> 00:44:18,450
-for a long time.
-'Cause you were in--
727
00:44:18,534 --> 00:44:21,286
So it was one of those things
where you really couldn't expect…
728
00:44:21,370 --> 00:44:22,538
-Him to…
-Yeah.
729
00:44:22,621 --> 00:44:26,041
And being in LA
and being, you know, who he is.
730
00:44:26,124 --> 00:44:28,544
I never really did get angry.
731
00:44:29,545 --> 00:44:34,508
I guess 'cause my emotions went
from fear of dying
732
00:44:34,591 --> 00:44:37,970
to, "Okay, we can breathe a little bit."
733
00:44:38,554 --> 00:44:41,515
But just day by day,
figuring this thing out.
734
00:44:41,598 --> 00:44:44,935
When they told us about
how we need to keep Earvin healthy,
735
00:44:45,018 --> 00:44:47,980
you know, it has a lot to do
with your immune system.
736
00:44:48,063 --> 00:44:51,984
And so he made sure
he kept his workout regimen.
737
00:44:52,067 --> 00:44:54,736
I'm running and lifting in the morning.
738
00:44:54,820 --> 00:44:57,197
I'm finding gyms to rent out,
739
00:44:57,281 --> 00:45:02,369
UCLA, Sports Club/LA,
on the weekends, late at night.
740
00:45:02,452 --> 00:45:03,871
So, I'm like--
741
00:45:03,954 --> 00:45:06,832
I'm playing, like,
almost seven days a week.
742
00:45:06,915 --> 00:45:07,916
Wait--
743
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,171
And still, you wanted to do
anything and everything to educate people.
744
00:45:12,254 --> 00:45:14,882
Most people are scared
to really talk about AIDS.
745
00:45:15,465 --> 00:45:18,552
And that's what's keeping
the ignorance alive.
746
00:45:18,635 --> 00:45:21,471
Magic Johnson, I think,
did more than anybody else
747
00:45:21,555 --> 00:45:24,224
to finally break the stigma.
748
00:45:24,308 --> 00:45:27,269
'Cause the country loved him
and respected him.
749
00:45:28,312 --> 00:45:30,856
And because they could see
that he was still fighting.
750
00:45:30,939 --> 00:45:33,525
What kind of charisma does
Earvin "Magic" Johnson have
751
00:45:33,609 --> 00:45:35,235
on the American basketball public?
752
00:45:35,319 --> 00:45:36,320
Consider this.
753
00:45:36,403 --> 00:45:40,449
He retires last November 7th,
when he tested positive for the HIV virus.
754
00:45:40,532 --> 00:45:43,243
And yet, when the All-Star fan balloting
is announced today,
755
00:45:43,327 --> 00:45:45,954
he comes in second
amongst Western Conference guards.
756
00:45:47,289 --> 00:45:49,416
The All-Star game was coming up.
757
00:45:49,499 --> 00:45:50,751
Earvin was leading the vote
758
00:45:50,834 --> 00:45:53,921
but he wasn't sure
if the NBA would let him play.
759
00:45:54,004 --> 00:45:56,882
Some players were skittish
760
00:45:56,965 --> 00:45:59,009
about playing against him
761
00:45:59,092 --> 00:46:02,304
because they were afraid,
if there was a cut or something,
762
00:46:02,387 --> 00:46:04,139
that they might get infected.
763
00:46:04,223 --> 00:46:07,017
There is fear, anxiety
and questions from all corners,
764
00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:09,937
including those athletes
who participate on the professional level.
765
00:46:10,020 --> 00:46:12,856
There was some swirl around this
of potential boycotts
766
00:46:12,940 --> 00:46:14,191
and lawsuits and other things.
767
00:46:15,192 --> 00:46:19,071
I think the stakes were even higher
than I understood at the time.
768
00:46:19,154 --> 00:46:22,616
A basketball game is incredibly violent.
The collisions, the contact, the bl--
769
00:46:22,699 --> 00:46:23,951
There's blood everywhere.
770
00:46:24,034 --> 00:46:28,247
And I wouldn't wanna be out there playing
against someone who was HIV positive.
771
00:46:28,330 --> 00:46:29,665
Look at every NBA player's hands.
772
00:46:29,748 --> 00:46:32,751
They're full of nicks, scars and cuts
from fingernails
773
00:46:32,835 --> 00:46:36,880
and all the times that you've slammed
into somebody's mouth with your elbow.
774
00:46:36,964 --> 00:46:38,340
And you're bleeding, he's bleeding.
775
00:46:38,423 --> 00:46:41,677
Things can happen to you even if it's--
the possibilities are small.
776
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,346
It was a concern
that a lot of players had.
777
00:46:44,429 --> 00:46:48,767
But he was a friend to me,
and I wanted to play against him.
778
00:46:48,851 --> 00:46:50,310
You know, I've always welcomed
779
00:46:50,936 --> 00:46:52,646
the opportunity
to play against Magic Johnson.
780
00:46:54,189 --> 00:46:56,984
He did
a Nickelodeon special with children.
781
00:46:57,067 --> 00:46:58,068
I remember things started,
782
00:46:58,151 --> 00:47:00,320
and there was a number of kids there
that had AIDS.
783
00:47:01,363 --> 00:47:03,907
My message to them,
that it can happen to you.
784
00:47:03,991 --> 00:47:05,993
And I'm a prime example of that.
785
00:47:06,535 --> 00:47:09,413
And it's happened
because I had unprotected sex.
786
00:47:09,496 --> 00:47:11,039
You wanted to say something?
787
00:47:11,540 --> 00:47:17,087
That I want people to know
that we're just normal people.
788
00:47:19,715 --> 00:47:21,592
Uh-uh, you don't have to cry.
789
00:47:22,885 --> 00:47:24,011
You don't have to cry.
790
00:47:31,602 --> 00:47:34,897
'Cause we are normal people. We are.
791
00:47:37,316 --> 00:47:40,235
And you just wanna
be treated like that, right?
792
00:47:40,319 --> 00:47:42,529
You just want your friends
to play with you
793
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,616
and call you up and come by
794
00:47:46,158 --> 00:47:48,577
and still have sleepovers
and things like that?
795
00:47:49,328 --> 00:47:51,038
Right? Yeah.
796
00:47:51,538 --> 00:47:54,249
And it's okay to cry. It's okay to cry.
797
00:47:55,792 --> 00:47:59,379
I didn't know it was as bad for him
as it was for everybody else.
798
00:47:59,463 --> 00:48:02,090
He had people
who didn't wanna be his friend
799
00:48:02,174 --> 00:48:05,969
and didn't wanna have anything
to do with him. And I was just like,
800
00:48:06,053 --> 00:48:07,346
"That's Magic Johnson."
801
00:48:07,429 --> 00:48:10,849
Like, how can you be
that mean to somebody?
802
00:48:10,933 --> 00:48:14,353
When Magic was diagnosed with HIV,
803
00:48:14,436 --> 00:48:17,022
I think David took it on as a cause.
804
00:48:17,105 --> 00:48:21,568
This is a very courageous, heroic person
and a heroic act.
805
00:48:21,652 --> 00:48:24,947
And we all pledged our support to him.
806
00:48:25,030 --> 00:48:27,741
In addition to wanting to be there
for Magic,
807
00:48:27,824 --> 00:48:31,828
he saw this for the larger
societal implications it represented
808
00:48:31,912 --> 00:48:35,249
in terms of what was then
enormous prejudice.
809
00:48:35,332 --> 00:48:36,708
It's about our game.
810
00:48:37,459 --> 00:48:40,963
But it's also about our humanity,
and it's about our Magic.
811
00:48:41,046 --> 00:48:47,010
And so, without asking
for too many opinions,
812
00:48:47,094 --> 00:48:49,638
'cause I was afraid
that I might get too many,
813
00:48:49,721 --> 00:48:51,139
I said, "That's it. He's in."
814
00:48:51,223 --> 00:48:54,059
Magic Johnson retired from the Lakers
because of the AIDS virus,
815
00:48:54,142 --> 00:48:57,187
but he now says he'll play
in the NBA All-Star game next month.
816
00:48:57,271 --> 00:49:00,691
There is little doubting
what this game means to any player,
817
00:49:00,774 --> 00:49:03,610
especially the first-timers and rookies.
818
00:49:03,694 --> 00:49:05,946
But the magic of this moment is Earvin's,
819
00:49:06,029 --> 00:49:07,406
a great of the game
820
00:49:07,489 --> 00:49:10,826
who fans feel they can just reach out
and touch.
821
00:49:10,909 --> 00:49:14,079
Sunday can't come soon enough
for number 32.
822
00:49:14,162 --> 00:49:15,497
Once I get out there,
823
00:49:15,581 --> 00:49:18,667
things will take care of themselves,
though, once you hit the court.
824
00:49:18,750 --> 00:49:21,753
You know, basketball will never leave me.
825
00:49:21,837 --> 00:49:25,841
I called the commissioner,
and I said, "Commissioner Stern,"
826
00:49:25,924 --> 00:49:29,261
I said, "Listen, you got
all these activities going on
827
00:49:29,344 --> 00:49:30,888
in the Orlando arena,
828
00:49:31,972 --> 00:49:34,057
but I need to go in there and shoot."
829
00:49:35,142 --> 00:49:37,311
He said,
"Earvin, the arena won't even be free
830
00:49:37,394 --> 00:49:39,188
until, like, 11:00 or 12:00 at night."
831
00:49:39,271 --> 00:49:42,608
I said, "I'm going
at 11:00 or 12:00 at night then."
832
00:49:42,691 --> 00:49:45,277
So I went in there, and I shot for hours.
833
00:49:50,157 --> 00:49:53,118
Then when we got to Orlando…
834
00:49:55,621 --> 00:49:59,499
there was a large sector of players
saying that they were gonna boycott.
835
00:50:01,251 --> 00:50:03,212
And they wasn't gonna play in the game.
836
00:50:06,507 --> 00:50:10,677
I called a meeting, and I stood up
in front of the other 23 players,
837
00:50:12,304 --> 00:50:15,015
and I said, "This is not gonna be a vote…
838
00:50:17,017 --> 00:50:19,186
but Magic's gonna play in this game.
839
00:50:21,230 --> 00:50:22,856
And we're going to embrace him.
840
00:50:25,359 --> 00:50:29,321
And not only are we gonna embrace him,
but we're gonna welcome him."
841
00:50:32,824 --> 00:50:34,326
I thought it was a big moment.
842
00:50:34,952 --> 00:50:39,581
And I wanted all the players
to not only shake his hand
843
00:50:40,165 --> 00:50:41,333
but to hug him.
844
00:50:42,084 --> 00:50:44,545
Making his 12th All-Star game appearance,
845
00:50:44,628 --> 00:50:51,301
Earvin "Magic" Johnson!
846
00:50:55,806 --> 00:50:58,725
Number 42 on the way,
and Magic touches it first.
847
00:51:00,227 --> 00:51:01,270
Magic!
848
00:51:01,770 --> 00:51:04,523
We just started off
playing easy, you know.
849
00:51:05,107 --> 00:51:08,277
And Dennis Rodman bodychecked me so much,
850
00:51:09,194 --> 00:51:11,613
it actually helped the other guys say,
851
00:51:12,865 --> 00:51:16,702
"Okay. Dennis is playing him hard.
We going at it."
852
00:51:16,785 --> 00:51:19,037
All the stuff went away.
853
00:51:19,663 --> 00:51:22,666
And now, I'm in my element.
854
00:51:23,250 --> 00:51:25,085
I got the no-look passes going.
855
00:51:25,169 --> 00:51:26,628
Another great pass.
856
00:51:26,712 --> 00:51:29,464
I got that hook going.
I got the drives going.
857
00:51:31,758 --> 00:51:34,761
You put that ball in my hand,
I know what to do with it.
858
00:51:37,055 --> 00:51:40,726
And I'm into my game, and it was just fun.
859
00:51:40,809 --> 00:51:44,188
I said, "Wow, I miss this."
860
00:51:44,271 --> 00:51:45,647
Magic Johnson.
861
00:51:45,731 --> 00:51:47,858
It didn't matter who was in front of me.
862
00:51:47,941 --> 00:51:49,776
I just had a feeling that I couldn't miss.
863
00:51:49,860 --> 00:51:52,988
And Johnson! Two in a row for Magic.
864
00:51:53,071 --> 00:51:54,698
He's going for the MVP.
865
00:51:54,781 --> 00:51:56,533
I'll never forget the ending.
866
00:51:56,617 --> 00:51:59,995
Three-pointer. Is it? It is! All right!
867
00:52:03,874 --> 00:52:08,253
There was still time on the clock,
and all the players just ran on the court.
868
00:52:09,338 --> 00:52:11,757
Man, that was the greatest feeling
in the world.
869
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,551
I mean, they were saying,
"That's it. The game is over.
870
00:52:14,635 --> 00:52:16,762
The show has ended."
871
00:52:18,764 --> 00:52:21,183
Magic, you're the most valuable player.
872
00:52:21,266 --> 00:52:23,810
You're a most courageous person.
873
00:52:23,894 --> 00:52:26,480
The moment is yours. Congratulations.
874
00:52:29,483 --> 00:52:33,320
Commissioner David Stern and I,
with that game,
875
00:52:33,403 --> 00:52:36,949
changed the conversation
876
00:52:37,032 --> 00:52:40,285
about HIV and AIDS around the world.
877
00:52:41,036 --> 00:52:44,289
That one game changed everything
for HIV and AIDS.
878
00:52:44,373 --> 00:52:50,420
Magic gave confidence to those
who were also afflicted with the disease
879
00:52:50,504 --> 00:52:52,673
that this wasn't a death sentence,
880
00:52:52,756 --> 00:52:55,384
that they should put pressure
on government
881
00:52:55,467 --> 00:53:00,889
and on the medical establishment
to take this disease seriously.
882
00:53:02,099 --> 00:53:05,185
Putting the commission together
was really good.
883
00:53:05,269 --> 00:53:09,022
But there wasn't enough resources
behind the commission.
884
00:53:09,481 --> 00:53:12,860
People who were running
the commission, heart wasn't in it.
885
00:53:12,943 --> 00:53:16,864
They were really focused in
on the white community
886
00:53:16,947 --> 00:53:19,157
and not the Black and brown community.
887
00:53:19,241 --> 00:53:22,911
The AIDS rate in America
is growing fastest among minorities.
888
00:53:22,995 --> 00:53:26,248
The reason why people
in our community are suffering from this
889
00:53:26,331 --> 00:53:28,667
is because there is a lack
of health care services.
890
00:53:28,750 --> 00:53:32,004
The government feels like, "These people
can be pushed off to the side
891
00:53:32,087 --> 00:53:33,547
'cause we don't need them anyway".
892
00:53:33,630 --> 00:53:36,800
He reached a point where he felt
things were not going quickly enough.
893
00:53:36,884 --> 00:53:40,012
They weren't having
as much influence as they should.
894
00:53:40,095 --> 00:53:43,056
I had this battle with the White House.
895
00:53:43,140 --> 00:53:46,101
I said, "If I'm going to really
make a difference,
896
00:53:46,185 --> 00:53:50,230
I gotta jump off of this commission
and really get on the ground."
897
00:53:50,314 --> 00:53:54,610
Magic Johnson said today he is quitting
the Presidential Commission on AIDS,
898
00:53:54,693 --> 00:53:58,614
and he accuses the Bush administration
of utterly ignoring its work.
899
00:53:58,697 --> 00:54:01,867
Finally, I just said, "You know what?
I'm just gonna be Earvin Johnson.
900
00:54:02,534 --> 00:54:04,953
I'm just gonna do me and do my thing."
901
00:54:05,037 --> 00:54:09,041
He started his own foundation,
the Magic Johnson Foundation.
902
00:54:09,625 --> 00:54:14,004
Our mission statement was
to bring about awareness for HIV and AIDS
903
00:54:14,087 --> 00:54:19,134
and to also support HIV clinics
and things like that.
904
00:54:19,218 --> 00:54:21,178
Sir, you got the Laker hat on
and everything.
905
00:54:21,261 --> 00:54:22,095
Yeah. Yeah.
906
00:54:22,179 --> 00:54:24,765
The stars turned out
in Inglewood, California, today
907
00:54:24,848 --> 00:54:28,769
to honor Magic Johnson and raise money
for AIDS education and research.
908
00:54:28,852 --> 00:54:30,437
I'm playing basketball.
909
00:54:31,021 --> 00:54:33,357
I'm not in the NBA.
I could if I wanted to play.
910
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,318
But right now,
I'm happy traveling around the world,
911
00:54:36,401 --> 00:54:37,653
not only playing basketball,
912
00:54:37,736 --> 00:54:40,405
but I'm also educating people
about HIV and AIDS.
913
00:54:41,281 --> 00:54:44,451
Everyone is wondering,
will he or won't he play again?
914
00:54:45,244 --> 00:54:47,746
The Lakers retiring his number 32.
915
00:54:47,829 --> 00:54:51,834
Now, the operative words here being
"number 32" and not his body.
916
00:54:51,917 --> 00:54:54,253
Magic, again, refusing
to slam the door shut
917
00:54:54,336 --> 00:54:56,088
on his playing days in the NBA.
918
00:55:09,685 --> 00:55:12,479
I hope that if I do decide to come back,
919
00:55:12,563 --> 00:55:15,440
you won't be upset
if we did this all over again.
920
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,319
And then the greatest thing happened,
921
00:55:19,403 --> 00:55:21,864
which was the Dream Team.
72949
Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.