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Ready?
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Are you glad your name's Magic Johnson?
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I would think that
puts pressure on you right there.
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Yeah.
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Ladies and gentleman,
you know him, you love him.
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Please say hello to Number 32,
Earvin ''Magic'' Johnson!
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Here we go!
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-Magic. Magic.
-Magic.
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Magic Johnson, that's who I wanna be like.
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Magic Johnson, the man,
the myth, the legend.
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Magic Johnson was
about passing the basketball.
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Doing so with flash, dash and sizzle.
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Magic did it with a smile.
He did it with joy.
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People became special around him.
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They got their own kind of mythology
around themselves,
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because they were on the team
with this mythological cat.
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The way he played the game.
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Magic's no-look passes made it seem
like he was clairvoyant, you know?
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Everybody wants to credit Michael Jordan
for changing the NBA.
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When Magic Johnson came in,
that's when the game changed.
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I was a Chicago Bulls fan,
but I gotta say,
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Magic Johnson was pretty good.
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Here he is! Magic Man.
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And you know that we're number one!
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He was the brightest star
in the galaxy of stars.
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That's saying quite a bit here
in Los Angeles.
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He's still the most popular athlete
in Los Angeles.
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He is beloved by everyone in this town.
Nobody doesn't like Magic.
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It wasn't "Magic."
It was Earvin Johnson Jr.
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And if you notice,
I went Earvin and Magic.
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Those are two different personalities.
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Magic loves the crowd,
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loves the atmosphere
of being a basketball player.
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Earvin likes to get away from that.
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Earvin
and Magic are very different people.
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Magic is just, like,
in front of the camera, the big smile,
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laughing, loving the attention.
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Earvin's quite impatient and, you know,
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he's the one who's,
like, very controlling.
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He put you through hell though, didn't he?
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None of us call him Magic.
He is Earvin and sometimes something else.
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Earvin don't like to lose.
He don't like to lose nothin'.
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I don't care if it's checkers…
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The thing about Earvin "Magic" Johnson,
he never wanted it easy.
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And I'm sure in his life,
very few things came easy.
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Everything came fast and good to you,
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but it could easily be taken away,
just as fast.
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He's Earvin.
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I don't call him Magic,
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'cause Magic is a character
that played basketball.
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He's like a superhero.
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If that's Magic, I guess that's what I am.
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Earvin Johnson passes long!
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Johnson drives to the net.
One of the best, perhaps the best,
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all-around
college basketball player today.
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The rumors say
that you've played your last college game
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and that you're heading away
from Michigan State.
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Yeah.
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Scoot this up.
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Yeah, I'd like to say
hello to all my teammates.
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And what's happening?
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I'd like to say good morning.
It's a hot morning.
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And I'd like to say…
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it's been rough, you know.
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It's…
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I've been going through a lot, you know.
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Students, you know, the community,
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everybody wanna know
what I'm gonna do, but--
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Could Michigan State fans
lose their star player,
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Earvin "Magic" Johnson?
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With shouts of triumph or tears
of disappointment,
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many believe Johnson is likely
to be the first pick
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in this year's NBA draft.
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The team's best positioned to get him
would be the Lakers or the Bulls.
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I'll never forget how excited
everybody was about that draft.
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Because we had a chance
to draft Earvin ''Magic'' Johnson.
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You know, at the end
of the '78, '79 season,
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two franchises flipped a coin
to see who got first pick.
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So, the Lakers and the Bulls were headed
for a coin flip.
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Magic's style
on the court would breathe new life
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into Chicago, if he chooses
to leave college early to go pro.
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I haven't had
a lot of time to think about it,
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but I guess this is the deadline
so I had to…
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give the answer up today.
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Bill Sharman and I had a conversation.
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Bill was GM of the Lakers,
and I said to Bill,
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"Do you mind if we call the flip?"
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Because we're having
our fans decide for us
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whether we're gonna call heads or tails.
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With NBA Commissioner
Larry O'Brien ready to toss the coin
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and both teams waiting on the phone,
Bulls GM Rod Thorn made his call.
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I had always been a tails guy.
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Our fans told us, "Call heads."
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Let's have Chicago's call.
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-Chicago calls heads.
-Chicago calls heads.
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In New York,
the commissioner flipped the coin.
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For the Lakers, this was that one guy
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that was going to change the destiny
of this franchise.
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And when somebody gives you
a nickname, "Magic",
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what do you expect?
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We'll now make the flip.
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Tails it is!
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In the off-season,
some Laker prayers are answered.
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Los Angeles has first rights to Magic now.
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Okay, so next season…
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I'll be-- Well, today,
I'll be applying for hardship.
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I'll be turning pro.
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It is now exactly 12:00 noon.
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The draft is officially open.
I want to welcome all the fans
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that are gonna join in
and help make this draft a success.
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The first pick is the Los Angeles Lakers.
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The Los Angeles Lakers
select Earvin "Magic" Johnson,
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Michigan State, 6'8'', 200 pounds.
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Earvin "Magic" Johnson of Michigan State,
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was chosen
by the Los Angeles Lakers today,
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as the number one pick in
the National Basketball Association draft.
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I am Earvin "Magic" Johnson, and--
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But I was born Earvin Johnson Jr.
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When I got drafted by the Lakers
and I got off the plane in LA,
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oh, my goodness!
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I had to come in
and prove I could play in the NBA
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and lead the Lakers.
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I really, really didn't want him to go.
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He was 19 years old.
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Going away from home, this would be
the first time away from the family.
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And I just didn't know
what was gonna happen to my baby.
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The LA Lakers had the number-one pick.
They took Earvin "Magic" Johnson.
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And a young man who is so exciting.
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He is a delightful personality.
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He is lighting up all
of Southern California.
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See this shit here? I bleed this shit.
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If I was Superman,
this would be my "S" on my chest.
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But I ain't Superman. I'm Snooperman,
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and that's my symbol.
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Laker gang.
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I first heard about Magic in 1978.
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When he was getting it in, in college.
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And then the next year '79.
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When the Lakers got Magic Johnson,
excitement ain't even the word.
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Here we are.
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I remember when he showed up,
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there was a rumor
Earvin "Magic" Johnson was gonna come
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to the Summer League game.
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I'm on my way to the game,
and I said to our trainer-- I said,
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"Well, how many people do they get?"
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And he said, "Well, they only get
like a 100, 200 people at the game."
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Place is full, 2,500
to 3,000 people, standing room only,
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LA crowd, and he's walking.
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And there are just nothing
but hundreds of kids following him.
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You could just feel that something
different was going to happen.
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You could feel it in the air.
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I'll be definitely ready,
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especially if the fans be
as beautiful as they were tonight.
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Fans, gonna be here?
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Cooper interview. Take one.
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I'm sorry.
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Michael Cooper. Los Angeles Lakers.
AKA Dark Gable.
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AKA Lockdown Motherfucker. AKA Buck Naked.
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We're sitting in the locker room,
and he hadn't gotten there yet.
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So, we're sitting there.
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This was gonna be my second year
with the Lakers.
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And I knew something was up.
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We knew that Magic was in the parking lot
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because we could hear his boom box.
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I had this big boom box
that I brought from Lansing, Michigan.
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And I was playing
Parliament-Funkadelics at that time.
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His favorite group was,
Parliament-Funkadelic.
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But Kareem,
he liked the quiet music, you know?
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You hear that music,
and all of a sudden, he walks in.
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Flashlight
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Kareem's a quiet man, so--
A man of few words.
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So, he just looked at me and said,
"Rookie, cut that damn box off!"
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He went around
and introduced himself to everybody,
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and he goes, "Hey, I'm Magic."
He didn't say Earvin Magic. "I'm Magic."
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I said, "Magic, I'm Coop. How you doing?"
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And I said,
"Welcome to the NBA, motherfucker."
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But when Magic got drafted by the Lakers,
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NBA was not considered
a very glamorous league at that time.
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The league was like a mom-and-pop league.
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There wasn't a lot of money
flowing around in those days.
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The National Basketball Association
in its 33rd season is troubled
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by diminishing crowds
and declining television ratings.
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Signs that fan interest may be waning.
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That October of 1979,
the NBA was a mess.
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The NBA was considered too drug-infested,
too Black,
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and the games were on tape delay.
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I remember watching games late night,
and they were repeats.
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You had to tell your family,
"Don't tell me who won.
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Don't tell me nothing
about the game."
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It just wasn't popular enough
to be in prime time.
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Dare to talk with the commissioner
of the NBA, Larry O'Brien.
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What about the future of the NBA?
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When we talked last year,
there were a lot of problems.
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Frankly, I get a little bit frustrated
when I hear and read about it so often.
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The league not only was losing money,
it was losing interest.
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This was not a good week
for the National Basketball Association.
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I mean, it was known as a thuggish league.
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Violence in the
National Basketball Association
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appears to be on the rise.
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They let people in the NBA fight then.
You know?
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When things happened, people fought.
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The National Basketball Association today
suspended Los Angeles Lakers forward,
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Kermit Washington.
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I remember when Kermit Washington
hit Rudy Tomjanovich at the Forum.
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Broke his jaw.
That was really one of the low points.
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It's turning off a lot of white customers
that are coming to the game, you know?
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Why?
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I think there's a conflict between
the white and the Black, and
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I don't enjoy going to the basketball
and seeing all Black players.
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America was over 65, 70% white.
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People were not willing to embrace
the product into their living rooms.
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And there was talk
of certain teams even folding.
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It was "survive."
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Can we survive a, you know, another year?
Can we survive another week?
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And now,
starting for your Los Angeles Lakers…
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The Lakers at that time weren't thought
of as champions.
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They were thought of as contenders.
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West. West all alone.
Look at Russell come down.
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And what a play by Russell!
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I remember my first year in Los Angeles.
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The Lakers were on the last page
of the newspaper. The last page.
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We would get in the back of trucks
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and go in the neighborhoods
with microphones.
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"Come out and see the Lakers play.
Come out and see the Lakers play."
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Since 1960, I mean,
the Lakers got beat six times in a row
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by Bill Russell and the Celtics.
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We lost so many times
in the Finals. I played nine Finals.
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We won one time in nine Finals,
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and it was probably
the most horrid feeling in my life.
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I actually-- I wanted to quit basketball.
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We just didn't have
the team that could win.
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You know, we had a good team.
I played very well.
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I won an MVP,
but we couldn't really contend
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for the championship
without the right players on the court.
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Is Magic Johnson
your favorite basketball player?
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Not seeing no magic.
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No.
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That was one of the many questions heard
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at the Forum as the Lakers
held their annual picture day
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before leaving for Palm Springs
and training camp.
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And their hopes are high
for the '79-'80 season.
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When I got to training camp as a rookie,
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I went in there--
At first I was so nervous.
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Magic, you talk about
getting to know things
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and making these adjustments.
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What are the big adjustments
that you're making?
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I think-- You know,
you got so many different…
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plays and so many different combinations
you can go on offense.
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And then on defense,
just trying to stay with your man
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and then trying to learn some
of them hold moves. I'm--
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When he first got there,
there was some friction
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with this Magic Johnson.
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Who's gonna be the leader?
Is it gonna be Kareem?
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Is it gonna be Magic?
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There's a tradition
of harassing the rookies in the NBA.
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The older players get to be cruel
and unusual with the rookies.
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Kareem said, "Hey,
I want Earvin Johnson to be my rookie."
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I said, "Oh, okay." You know, I'm like,
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"I'll do anything for you. You a legend.
You the best player in the NBA."
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I had to have his newspaper at his door
at, like, 7:00, 7:30 in the morning.
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Every time it was a time-out in practice,
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he wants two waters and two Gatorades,
and it better be cold.
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I said, "No problem."
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So, Norm Nixon called me aside.
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"Man, act like you been here
before. Relax a little bit."
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He was a target, you know?
And he just had to be careful.
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So, we're in practice.
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I was boxing out Ron Boone.
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All of a sudden, I look up
at the rim and the ball,
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and he had hit me right
behind my head really hard.
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And he was just smiling.
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Ronnie Boone, he's a warhorse.
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I don't think he's ever
missed a game in his life.
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Ron was old-school.
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As tough as they come. He'd look at you
and you'd say, "What did I do?"
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Love him as a human being.
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As a basketball player? Nasty fucker, man.
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Ron would not back down to anybody.
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And he probably wanted
to let the rookie know that the--
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You know, "I've been here for 12 years,
so don't mess with me."
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The next time, he's boxing me out.
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Ron Boone?
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Let's see what you got.
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You think, first of all,
you drafted the wrong dude?
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Okay. I got something for you.
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So I ran in as fast as I could,
and I hit him as hard as I could.
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He shouldn't have woke
that quiet bear up, see?
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He woke me up.
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So, Jerry West came over.
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He pulled me aside
and he said, "Magic, I like that."
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And I said, "Do you want Earvin Johnson
to play basketball,
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or do you want Magic Johnson
to play basketball?"
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I said, "I'd rather see
Magic Johnson play basketball."
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You know, growing up
in a small town like Lansing, Michigan--
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Let me tell you something.
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Nobody really heard about Earvin Johnson.
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I mean, who's Earvin Johnson?
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A person coming from Lansing--
You had to prove yourself.
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If you were really good,
you had to go out and prove a point
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that this little boy
from Lansing, Michigan had game.
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You know?
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Lansing is a hardworking town.
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You either worked in the car industry,
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or you worked, really, for the state.
There's only two jobs.
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My father worked for General Motors
for 30 years.
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He was never late. Never missed a day.
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And he worked
on the line with the welding.
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So, his shirt would have holes
in 'em from all the sparks flying.
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My mother worked for the school cafeteria.
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They were both hardworking people,
blue-collar people.
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My father was in the service.
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And every time he came home,
he made a baby.
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That's why we're all in a row.
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Michael Johnson.
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Larry Johnson.
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-Pearl Johnson.
-Kim Johnson-Ray.
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Evelyn Johnson.
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I have six sisters, three brothers.
I'm the baby boy.
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We used to call him Junebug.
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I don't even know where that came from.
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All I know, we--
They called him Junebug.
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Junebug. That was when he was little.
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He was so joyful all the time.
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I think that was a fitting
nickname for him.
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00:20:48,916 --> 00:20:51,126
-I don't think he liked it.
-Oh, no.
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That stuck with him
for a long time. Every now and then,
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somebody that--
When he's home. "Hey, Junebug!"
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Then, as he grew up,
we started calling him Earvin.
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We used to have some games, man.
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I tell you those one-on-one
games were just… hard.
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We fought.
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We both roughed each other up, you know,
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'cause then neither one of us wanna lose,
you know.
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And at a young age
he wouldn't let nothing get by, you know.
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So we had our time
where we had to scrap and stuff
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on the ground, and stuff during a game.
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Arguing about who won and who-- you know.
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But Earv was that go-getter, you know.
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Whatever he wanted to do,
he was gonna do it.
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00:21:35,629 --> 00:21:38,882
Main Street School was the mecca
of Lansing, Michigan.
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If you were the best player in Lansing,
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you had to come to Main Street School.
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00:21:44,137 --> 00:21:48,392
That's where you gonna get the action at,
because guys were coming from all over.
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If you lose a game, you might not
play again for another two hours.
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'Cause guys is lined up, and they always
had their teams ready to go.
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Whether you had to cheat
to win, or whatever,
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you wanted to stay on that court.
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I'ma pick the dudes
that gonna play their role,
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so that we can win and stay out
on that court all day.
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I played in the rain.
I played in the snow.
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It didn't matter.
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Sunup to sundown.
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And then I started playing
against older boys,
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and then I started playing against men.
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Even my father and my uncle.
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00:22:19,548 --> 00:22:23,719
My father, my uncle fouled me,
but they said there was no foul,
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00:22:23,802 --> 00:22:25,929
so I had to play through that.
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00:22:26,013 --> 00:22:30,434
I didn't want him to be out there,
crybaby each time somebody hit him,
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00:22:30,517 --> 00:22:32,519
or bump him into the jaw, he'd cry.
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00:22:33,145 --> 00:22:36,982
They said, "Okay, he can hold his own,
and he's strong enough
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00:22:37,065 --> 00:22:38,984
and physical enough to--"
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00:22:39,067 --> 00:22:41,361
to handle the beating
that they were gonna give me.
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00:22:42,029 --> 00:22:44,239
And nobody outworked me
in the neighborhood.
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00:22:44,323 --> 00:22:49,203
I was on the court more than any kid.
I mean, it wasn't even close.
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And I wanted it more.
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00:23:01,507 --> 00:23:03,091
One of my very best friends
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00:23:03,175 --> 00:23:06,553
wrote high school sports
for the Lansing State Journal.
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00:23:06,637 --> 00:23:11,391
And one December Friday night,
he called me and he said,
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00:23:11,475 --> 00:23:13,644
"Have you heard
of this kid Earvin Johnson?"
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00:23:13,727 --> 00:23:16,271
I was assigned
to cover Earvin's first game.
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50 to 49. Earvin had 12 points,
ten rebounds and fouled out.
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00:23:23,654 --> 00:23:25,072
And so I get back to the office
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00:23:25,155 --> 00:23:28,575
and everybody wants to know
how this Earvin Johnson kid is.
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00:23:28,659 --> 00:23:32,746
I said, "Well, he's 6'5'' type kid.
He's gonna be a good player one day,
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00:23:32,829 --> 00:23:34,540
but he wasn't anything special
in that game.''
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00:23:34,623 --> 00:23:38,252
We beat 'em by one point,
on a rebound at the buzzer.
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00:23:40,128 --> 00:23:42,381
And my brother came into the locker room.
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00:23:42,464 --> 00:23:47,553
He says, "George, he might be an all-city
and maybe an all-stater.
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00:23:47,636 --> 00:23:49,304
He's no all-American."
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00:23:50,222 --> 00:23:51,431
But I thought, "Wait."
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00:23:53,308 --> 00:23:56,603
Somehow, fate had me
be assigned to the second game.
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00:23:56,687 --> 00:23:59,314
We went to play one
of the schools that's supposedly good
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00:23:59,398 --> 00:24:00,774
in the state of Michigan.
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00:24:00,858 --> 00:24:03,110
And we blew them out on their home court.
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00:24:03,193 --> 00:24:07,990
I always tell people, he had 36 points,
20 rebounds, 15 assists and 10 steals.
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00:24:08,073 --> 00:24:10,701
As a 15-year-old,
that was my first triple-double.
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00:24:10,784 --> 00:24:12,536
And my brother came up to me
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00:24:12,619 --> 00:24:14,955
and he says,
"George, he'll make you forget
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00:24:15,038 --> 00:24:17,916
about every other basketball player
we've had in this area."
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00:24:18,542 --> 00:24:22,045
It was the most
amazing performance I'd ever seen
391
00:24:22,129 --> 00:24:25,591
by anybody, and he was his second game
of his high school career.
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00:24:25,674 --> 00:24:29,553
So the sportswriter came in
and he said, "Listen, man, I'm--
393
00:24:29,636 --> 00:24:32,723
I haven't seen a performance
like that ever in my life."
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00:24:32,806 --> 00:24:36,059
-He says, "I wanna give you a nickname."
-"Earvin, we gotta call you something."
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00:24:36,143 --> 00:24:39,605
Somebody's called Biggie.
Somebody's called Dr. J.
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00:24:39,688 --> 00:24:41,023
How about Magic?
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00:24:41,106 --> 00:24:43,400
You know, you're like, "Yeah, right."
398
00:24:43,483 --> 00:24:46,486
You know, you start laughing like,
"Yeah, yeah, okay that--"
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00:24:46,570 --> 00:24:49,740
My boys not gonna call me "Magic."
You know?
400
00:24:54,286 --> 00:24:58,290
And within two months, everybody
in Michigan knew who Magic was.
401
00:24:59,833 --> 00:25:02,794
When I first started
playing basketball in high school,
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00:25:02,878 --> 00:25:05,506
everybody started talking
about this guy from East Lansing.
403
00:25:06,089 --> 00:25:09,259
Magic Johnson. Magic, Magic, Magic.
404
00:25:09,927 --> 00:25:14,056
And I was like, "Magic? Man,
I need to watch this."
405
00:25:15,265 --> 00:25:18,268
And I had heard about this kid, you know,
Earvin ''Magic'' Johnson.
406
00:25:18,352 --> 00:25:20,187
I was like, "Who's this dude?
Earvin 'Magic' Johnson."
407
00:25:20,270 --> 00:25:24,816
Never saw him, but just kept hearing
how great he was as a basketball player.
408
00:25:24,900 --> 00:25:26,652
There he goes. Watch it for three…
409
00:25:26,735 --> 00:25:29,196
"Have you seen this kid in Lansing?"
410
00:25:29,821 --> 00:25:32,908
"This 15-year-old Black kid
from the Midwest.
411
00:25:33,617 --> 00:25:35,702
They call him Magic. Have you seen him?"
412
00:25:35,786 --> 00:25:38,497
Earvin Johnson,
you're a very sought-after player.
413
00:25:38,580 --> 00:25:41,875
You shoot well, you pass well,
you dribble, score, assist.
414
00:25:41,959 --> 00:25:43,710
We're trying to figure
out what you do best.
415
00:25:43,794 --> 00:25:45,546
Do you know? We can't figure it out.
416
00:25:45,629 --> 00:25:48,131
When the newspapers
really started getting involved,
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00:25:48,215 --> 00:25:50,717
and then he started
getting the big headlines--
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00:25:50,801 --> 00:25:54,179
You know, that's when he
basically became the pied piper.
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00:25:54,263 --> 00:25:57,266
Whatever game he was playing,
everybody wanted to go see it.
420
00:26:11,822 --> 00:26:15,659
Everywhere we would go,
you could not find a seat any place.
421
00:26:15,742 --> 00:26:17,452
You just could not find a seat.
422
00:26:18,287 --> 00:26:22,416
I still remember the ticket scalping,
the extra police there for security.
423
00:26:27,713 --> 00:26:30,799
It wasn't any kind
of ordinary stuff that he did.
424
00:26:30,883 --> 00:26:34,761
He did stuff that I'd never seen
on a basketball floor before.
425
00:26:34,845 --> 00:26:37,973
He's up and down the court.
Just behind his back,
426
00:26:38,056 --> 00:26:40,893
throwing no-look passes.
Just doing everything.
427
00:26:42,144 --> 00:26:45,397
Earvin was a fierce competitor.
428
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,441
God, he was competitive.
429
00:26:48,859 --> 00:26:51,820
A lot of the other kids--
white kids, they wanted to beat him.
430
00:26:52,487 --> 00:26:55,032
And I'll never forget
that they were playing Benton Harbor,
431
00:26:55,115 --> 00:26:57,618
a tradition-rich basketball school
in Michigan history.
432
00:26:57,701 --> 00:27:02,372
They practiced first,
and as they exit the floor
433
00:27:02,456 --> 00:27:05,292
and it was our turn to go
onto the floor, a dude said,
434
00:27:05,876 --> 00:27:08,295
"Which one of you dudes Earvin Johnson?
435
00:27:08,378 --> 00:27:11,423
I just want you to know,
tomorrow you in trouble."
436
00:27:12,466 --> 00:27:16,136
All my teammates were like,
"Man. He talking trash."
437
00:27:16,220 --> 00:27:18,597
I said,
"You just wait till tomorrow night."
438
00:27:22,142 --> 00:27:25,354
It was 9,000 people, sold out I think.
439
00:27:25,854 --> 00:27:29,858
I remember one play in the game
and a guy stepped on the back of my foot,
440
00:27:29,942 --> 00:27:31,902
so my shoe came off.
441
00:27:31,985 --> 00:27:34,905
For the next two or three minutes,
I'm playing with one shoe on.
442
00:27:36,365 --> 00:27:39,910
In that three minutes,
I made, like, five plays.
443
00:27:40,744 --> 00:27:42,913
He still went down the court
with one shoe on
444
00:27:42,996 --> 00:27:45,624
and did a dazzling move and scored.
445
00:27:45,707 --> 00:27:48,877
Laid it in,
and the people were just going crazy.
446
00:27:48,961 --> 00:27:50,587
It was just building.
447
00:27:50,671 --> 00:27:54,258
And by the time
Benton Harbor coach called the time-out,
448
00:27:54,341 --> 00:27:56,343
the place just erupted.
449
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,848
I said, "Look at the scoreboard."
450
00:28:00,931 --> 00:28:03,684
That's all. I don't have
to talk trash. Just look up.
451
00:28:08,564 --> 00:28:11,358
I never saw somebody's reputation
452
00:28:11,441 --> 00:28:16,572
as a high school player grow as fast,
in all my years, in any sport.
453
00:28:19,116 --> 00:28:22,828
I just knew he was not gonna go away.
454
00:28:25,330 --> 00:28:28,709
I do know one thing,
that his mother was not real fond
455
00:28:28,792 --> 00:28:30,919
of the nickname "Magic"
when he was given it.
456
00:28:31,003 --> 00:28:34,298
How about the nickname
"Magic?" How'd you take to that?
457
00:28:34,381 --> 00:28:40,762
Well, I really never liked that,
you know, because it had such a--
458
00:28:40,846 --> 00:28:44,224
such an impact on him, you know.
459
00:28:44,308 --> 00:28:49,646
People expect so much
from him because of that name.
460
00:28:57,070 --> 00:28:59,239
We had a big press conference
at Everett High School.
461
00:28:59,323 --> 00:29:00,908
It was the big news.
462
00:29:02,826 --> 00:29:05,579
Every TV station within 50 miles was here.
463
00:29:05,662 --> 00:29:06,788
All right.
464
00:29:08,874 --> 00:29:11,126
Is there any questions
before I get started?
465
00:29:13,378 --> 00:29:18,008
No, next year I will be
attending Michigan State University.
466
00:29:21,011 --> 00:29:22,679
Michigan State University.
467
00:29:22,763 --> 00:29:26,850
Earvin ''Magic'' Johnson
directing the Spartan Ballet Company
468
00:29:26,934 --> 00:29:28,644
from East Lansing, Michigan.
469
00:29:28,727 --> 00:29:31,271
Magic Johnson comes from the Lansing area,
470
00:29:31,355 --> 00:29:33,607
which is something
we're all very proud of here.
471
00:29:36,860 --> 00:29:41,114
The whole city recruited Earvin Johnson.
It wasn't just Michigan State.
472
00:29:42,032 --> 00:29:43,909
That enthusiasm that he showed.
473
00:29:43,992 --> 00:29:47,120
That electricity permeated
through the building.
474
00:29:48,330 --> 00:29:49,414
It was--
475
00:29:50,666 --> 00:29:51,959
It was mesmerizing.
476
00:29:53,168 --> 00:29:55,379
Magic Johnson, he's a coach on the floor.
477
00:29:55,462 --> 00:29:57,714
His play's under control.
He's got great hands.
478
00:29:57,798 --> 00:30:00,968
A great passer. The way he goes,
so goes the Spartans.
479
00:30:01,051 --> 00:30:05,889
They had a bad season the year before,
but most of the players were coming back.
480
00:30:05,973 --> 00:30:10,727
Greg Kelser was there,
and I put Jay Vincent in that lineup,
481
00:30:10,811 --> 00:30:12,646
and I put myself in the lineup. I said,
482
00:30:12,729 --> 00:30:16,441
"Man, I think we can win the Big Ten."
483
00:30:16,525 --> 00:30:19,528
I could not wait for the season to begin.
484
00:30:19,611 --> 00:30:23,115
So we can enjoy
this chemistry and camaraderie.
485
00:30:23,198 --> 00:30:24,700
And it clicked right away.
486
00:30:24,783 --> 00:30:27,286
We were just having a good time.
487
00:30:29,454 --> 00:30:33,333
We had a nice boom box
and record player in the locker room.
488
00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:36,420
When he joined, that was his thing.
489
00:30:36,503 --> 00:30:38,672
He took that over
so we just left it alone.
490
00:30:39,423 --> 00:30:43,093
The one that we adopted,
the song by the Jimmy Castor Bunch,
491
00:30:44,094 --> 00:30:45,304
is called "Potential."
492
00:30:46,054 --> 00:30:50,058
Potential, spelled P-O-T-E-N-T-I-A-L.
And we used to spell that out.
493
00:30:50,142 --> 00:30:52,686
Because our thought was
that we were a young club,
494
00:30:52,769 --> 00:30:54,730
trying to reestablish ourselves.
495
00:30:54,813 --> 00:30:57,733
So play to your potential
and see how many teams can beat you.
496
00:31:00,194 --> 00:31:02,487
Earvin fashioned himself as a disc jockey.
497
00:31:02,571 --> 00:31:05,240
You know, his moniker was EJ the DJ.
498
00:31:07,284 --> 00:31:09,494
EJ the DJ.
499
00:31:09,578 --> 00:31:12,206
EJ the DJ. Yeah, yeah.
500
00:31:12,289 --> 00:31:15,250
You know, he would deejay on his off days,
501
00:31:15,334 --> 00:31:17,961
and before every game he had
to get into a groove.
502
00:31:18,712 --> 00:31:21,423
And boy did--
I don't know what music did to him,
503
00:31:21,507 --> 00:31:26,011
but he'd go out and get a triple-double
like it wasn't nothing. You know, so…
504
00:31:26,094 --> 00:31:30,432
And so then I started deejaying
at all the local clubs,
505
00:31:30,516 --> 00:31:33,644
and I was getting paid
to be there to deejay.
506
00:31:33,727 --> 00:31:37,272
And then it was the last day
before we left
507
00:31:37,356 --> 00:31:39,066
to go home for Christmas break.
508
00:31:40,734 --> 00:31:43,987
We go to this famous
nightspot called Dooley's.
509
00:31:44,071 --> 00:31:48,116
-It was a party place.
-Everybody on campus went to Dooley's.
510
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,245
But it was just the place to be, to go.
511
00:31:51,328 --> 00:31:54,706
But we were sheltered. We didn't hang out.
We didn't do those things.
512
00:31:54,790 --> 00:31:56,667
This was our first time being grown-ups.
513
00:31:56,750 --> 00:32:00,671
You know, away from home.
Hanging out, drinking, having a good time.
514
00:32:01,964 --> 00:32:04,883
A young lady came in and said hi to us.
515
00:32:05,968 --> 00:32:09,388
But right behind her was this beautiful,
516
00:32:10,097 --> 00:32:14,685
beautiful young lady named Cookie
she introduced us to.
517
00:32:15,686 --> 00:32:21,608
We said hello, I ran into my other friends
and, you know, danced and had a good time.
518
00:32:21,692 --> 00:32:23,026
She walked away...
519
00:32:23,944 --> 00:32:25,070
and I said...
520
00:32:28,198 --> 00:32:30,158
"I got to get to know her."
521
00:32:30,826 --> 00:32:36,707
Man, that's when "Jamaica Funk"
and "Ring My Bell" just had hit.
522
00:32:44,047 --> 00:32:46,800
And I watched her on the dance floor.
523
00:32:47,426 --> 00:32:50,220
And Cookie could dance.
524
00:32:50,304 --> 00:32:51,972
So, Jay kept elbowing me,
525
00:32:52,055 --> 00:32:54,766
saying, "Man, if you don't
get her phone number."
526
00:32:54,850 --> 00:32:55,976
The lights came up.
527
00:32:56,059 --> 00:32:57,477
Everybody was leaving.
528
00:32:57,561 --> 00:32:58,729
And I started walking out.
529
00:32:58,812 --> 00:33:02,524
And I stood right by the door
'cause I couldn't miss my opportunity.
530
00:33:02,608 --> 00:33:04,359
And as I walked past him, he said,
531
00:33:04,443 --> 00:33:06,028
"Hey, lemme get that phone number."
532
00:33:06,111 --> 00:33:10,240
"I would like to get your phone number
so when we come back from Christmas break,
533
00:33:10,324 --> 00:33:12,242
maybe we could go out or something."
534
00:33:12,326 --> 00:33:14,453
I laughed at him and I said,
535
00:33:14,536 --> 00:33:18,081
"You'll never remember my name
and remember to call me."
536
00:33:18,165 --> 00:33:21,335
-I said, "I'm gonna call you."
-I gave him the number, and I said,
537
00:33:21,418 --> 00:33:23,420
"Okay, but you'll never
remember who I am."
538
00:33:24,296 --> 00:33:26,632
Indiana working the ball.
Forecourt. Bounce pass.
539
00:33:26,715 --> 00:33:28,884
Michigan State
played a Christmas tournament.
540
00:33:28,967 --> 00:33:31,595
I was sitting with my mother
watching the game, and I was like,
541
00:33:31,678 --> 00:33:34,848
"Mom, that guy right there,
he asked me for my number when I left."
542
00:33:34,932 --> 00:33:37,184
And I was like, "He'll never remember me."
543
00:33:37,267 --> 00:33:39,186
And we laughed.
We had a good laugh about it.
544
00:33:41,647 --> 00:33:46,193
I went back early because I had to finish
registering for some classes,
545
00:33:46,276 --> 00:33:49,530
and I remember the day
that I walked into the room,
546
00:33:49,613 --> 00:33:50,822
the phone started ringing.
547
00:33:50,906 --> 00:33:53,116
Like, literally we were walking
in with our bags,
548
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,994
and the phone started ringing.
I picked it up, and it was him.
549
00:33:56,078 --> 00:33:58,372
She said, "I never thought
you were gonna call me."
550
00:33:58,455 --> 00:34:02,918
And I'm thinking, "How did he even know
that I just walked into my room?"
551
00:34:03,001 --> 00:34:05,170
That we even came back
'cause we came back early.
552
00:34:05,254 --> 00:34:06,338
I just played it off--
553
00:34:06,421 --> 00:34:09,216
"Yeah, you know a brother know
these type of things."
554
00:34:10,384 --> 00:34:12,219
She didn't know I was calling every day
555
00:34:12,302 --> 00:34:14,638
about five times a day
trying to reach her.
556
00:34:18,725 --> 00:34:21,645
And he found out
my birthday was January 20th.
557
00:34:21,728 --> 00:34:24,481
And so then he asked me,
558
00:34:24,565 --> 00:34:26,692
"Can I take you out for your birthday?"
559
00:34:26,775 --> 00:34:29,027
You know, and I thought, "Oh, wow, okay."
560
00:34:29,110 --> 00:34:33,322
I was really shocked, you know,
and excited about it.
561
00:34:33,407 --> 00:34:35,492
I went home and told my father,
562
00:34:35,576 --> 00:34:39,580
"I want to put on a suit to take her out
on my first date."
563
00:34:40,956 --> 00:34:44,543
And he said, "Wow,
you must really like this girl.
564
00:34:45,043 --> 00:34:48,130
How long you known her?"
I said, "Dad, I don't know her yet."
565
00:34:49,214 --> 00:34:51,175
We had a great time at dinner,
566
00:34:51,257 --> 00:34:54,219
and it was like we were
best friends instantly, you know.
567
00:34:54,303 --> 00:34:56,263
We just-- Easy talking to each other.
568
00:34:56,346 --> 00:34:58,348
We talked at the restaurant.
569
00:34:58,432 --> 00:35:00,475
Then we went over to my uncle's house.
570
00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:03,312
We sat there and listened to music,
and we talked some more.
571
00:35:04,438 --> 00:35:05,772
Cookie was amazing.
572
00:35:06,648 --> 00:35:12,529
And Cookie was serious about graduating,
so she was driven like I was.
573
00:35:13,363 --> 00:35:17,534
For me, I was most impressed with
the fact of how down-to-earth he was.
574
00:35:17,618 --> 00:35:21,622
He was so cool and so funny
and so normal, you know.
575
00:35:21,705 --> 00:35:23,707
That's what I fell in love with.
576
00:35:24,208 --> 00:35:26,627
The first few months was just incredible.
577
00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:29,129
Cookie and I had the best time.
578
00:35:29,213 --> 00:35:33,300
I stayed on the phone with Cookie
on the road all night.
579
00:35:33,383 --> 00:35:35,844
Actually, we would fall asleep,
580
00:35:36,845 --> 00:35:39,556
and the phone's off the hook, you know.
581
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,934
We would fall asleep
talking to each other.
582
00:35:42,017 --> 00:35:43,602
It'd be 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning.
583
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,857
I think for him,
I was always just that place
584
00:35:48,941 --> 00:35:53,111
where he could relax and be supported.
585
00:35:53,195 --> 00:35:58,325
Whether he won, lost or, you know,
was really tired or sick.
586
00:35:58,951 --> 00:36:01,328
Whatever I needed,
even before I needed it,
587
00:36:01,411 --> 00:36:04,206
she would say,
"Hey, I know-- You look tired.
588
00:36:04,289 --> 00:36:06,834
Come, just lay down on my bed.
I'm gonna just study."
589
00:36:08,085 --> 00:36:10,921
I think that's what made me
fall in love with her too.
590
00:36:12,673 --> 00:36:15,759
Because of those moments
at Michigan State,
591
00:36:15,843 --> 00:36:17,636
we were building something together.
592
00:36:22,391 --> 00:36:24,476
Him being the focal point
593
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,187
of Michigan State's basketball team,
594
00:36:27,271 --> 00:36:28,605
it wasn't easy.
595
00:36:30,107 --> 00:36:33,485
And the pressure he was under
once the season started.
596
00:36:33,819 --> 00:36:37,447
You know, he was very strict
about his regimen before a game.
597
00:36:37,531 --> 00:36:41,076
What he ate, and how he needed quiet--
598
00:36:41,785 --> 00:36:43,412
Dark room, just his music.
599
00:36:47,124 --> 00:36:50,085
And I would go to the basketball games and
600
00:36:50,169 --> 00:36:52,629
sometimes I would
wait for him after the game.
601
00:36:52,713 --> 00:36:55,048
But he always told me,
"Just go back to the dorms,
602
00:36:55,132 --> 00:36:56,884
and I'll meet you there after the game."
603
00:36:56,967 --> 00:37:00,345
There was no just hanging around talking
or going home.
604
00:37:00,429 --> 00:37:03,015
Right then and there,
"I'll call you when I get home. Bye."
605
00:37:03,765 --> 00:37:05,392
She said, "Well, why can't I wait
606
00:37:05,475 --> 00:37:08,270
because all the other players'
girlfriends are waiting?"
607
00:37:08,353 --> 00:37:10,898
I said, "Just go to the dorm,
and I'll see you afterward."
608
00:37:10,981 --> 00:37:12,482
That was our first big argument.
609
00:37:12,566 --> 00:37:14,943
Everybody was trying to talk to Earvin.
610
00:37:15,527 --> 00:37:17,863
All the girls, "Earvin. I want Ear--"
611
00:37:17,946 --> 00:37:20,949
No, not Earvin.
"I want Magic. I want Magic."
612
00:37:21,033 --> 00:37:23,535
You know, there were girls everywhere.
613
00:37:24,036 --> 00:37:28,665
I get in his car one day
and I see pictures on the floor
614
00:37:28,749 --> 00:37:34,588
of him, you know,
taking somebody to their dance.
615
00:37:34,671 --> 00:37:37,341
And I'm thinking, "What is this?"
616
00:37:37,424 --> 00:37:39,801
And he says, "Oh, no.
It's just a friend of mine.
617
00:37:39,885 --> 00:37:42,012
I just took her.
She broke up with her boyfriend."
618
00:37:42,095 --> 00:37:45,974
And I thought, "No. I don't think that
that's what's going on."
619
00:37:46,058 --> 00:37:47,309
-She was very hurt.
-Yeah.
620
00:37:47,392 --> 00:37:49,228
-Very hurt.
-Hurt bad.
621
00:37:49,811 --> 00:37:50,979
Because we knew how--
622
00:37:51,063 --> 00:37:53,065
-We knew how she felt.
-We knew how she felt.
623
00:37:53,148 --> 00:37:56,109
-We knew she loved.
-Right.
624
00:37:56,193 --> 00:37:58,695
You know, they just really--
It really devastated her.
625
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,533
You know, she saw
that I was dating other people
626
00:38:02,616 --> 00:38:06,203
so it wasn't a good look for me.
627
00:38:06,286 --> 00:38:07,996
'Cause she said, "You moved on.
628
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,623
Okay, then I'ma start
dating other people."
629
00:38:09,706 --> 00:38:10,749
And I didn't like that.
630
00:38:10,832 --> 00:38:12,918
We got into an argument, and then I said,
631
00:38:13,001 --> 00:38:16,922
"Listen. It can't be both of us.
You know, you can't date her and then me."
632
00:38:17,005 --> 00:38:18,799
He's like, "I'm not dating her, but--"
633
00:38:18,882 --> 00:38:21,176
And I said, "No, you gotta
choose one or the other."
634
00:38:21,260 --> 00:38:22,594
And he said, "I'm not choosing."
635
00:38:22,678 --> 00:38:24,680
So I said, "Well, I will. I'm out."
636
00:38:32,145 --> 00:38:35,065
I remember back in those days
when I used to see him a lot.
637
00:38:35,148 --> 00:38:38,277
And we were just standing there talking.
I says, "Earvin, do you know,
638
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:43,198
there's a 6'8" or 9" kid
somewhere in a gym in this country,
639
00:38:44,616 --> 00:38:48,495
and he's got all your skills.
640
00:38:49,454 --> 00:38:51,331
Is he gonna outwork you?"
641
00:38:52,541 --> 00:38:55,544
A year later,
I'm talking to him somewhere,
642
00:38:55,627 --> 00:38:57,212
and he says, "Hey, Coach.
643
00:38:57,296 --> 00:39:00,924
Remember that story you told me
about somebody outworking me?"
644
00:39:01,425 --> 00:39:03,010
He says, "I found him."
645
00:39:06,847 --> 00:39:09,099
At the end of my freshman season,
646
00:39:09,183 --> 00:39:12,644
they decide to invite the best
college basketball players
647
00:39:12,728 --> 00:39:14,646
to represent the United States.
648
00:39:16,565 --> 00:39:19,359
The first day of practice,
I'm watching him shoot,
649
00:39:19,443 --> 00:39:22,863
and it's nothing but net,
like 30 times in a row.
650
00:39:23,864 --> 00:39:26,533
I'm like, "Whoo.
Man, this dude can shoot."
651
00:39:27,242 --> 00:39:29,578
I'm going into that game,
didn't know much about him.
652
00:39:29,661 --> 00:39:31,663
Just knew he's
a talented basketball player.
653
00:39:31,747 --> 00:39:32,664
And he was walking around
654
00:39:32,748 --> 00:39:36,001
with a big music box on his shoulder,
everywhere he went.
655
00:39:36,084 --> 00:39:39,296
That's when I saw Larry Bird up close.
656
00:39:43,258 --> 00:39:46,762
We would get in the game
and start throwing no-look passes,
657
00:39:46,845 --> 00:39:49,348
and he'd start hittin' 'em
long jump shots.
658
00:39:49,973 --> 00:39:51,767
Earvin Johnson, look at that--
659
00:39:51,850 --> 00:39:54,770
One time, I came down,
threw a no-look to Larry,
660
00:39:54,853 --> 00:39:57,105
he got it, threw a no-look back to me,
661
00:39:57,189 --> 00:39:59,691
and I laid it up.
And the people went nuts.
662
00:40:01,026 --> 00:40:03,445
And, man, after that I went back
and told everybody,
663
00:40:03,529 --> 00:40:06,323
"Larry Bird, he's for real."
664
00:40:07,324 --> 00:40:08,742
The next season,
665
00:40:08,825 --> 00:40:12,287
he would lead his team
to a 33 and 0 season.
666
00:40:12,371 --> 00:40:13,622
33 and 0.
667
00:40:14,957 --> 00:40:17,876
Now, we had to face a ton
of good guys in the Big Ten,
668
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,255
but we had never faced
one individual talent like Larry Bird.
669
00:40:23,131 --> 00:40:24,508
Bird was an assassin.
670
00:40:24,591 --> 00:40:26,760
He was a one-man wrecking crew
at Indiana State,
671
00:40:26,844 --> 00:40:28,804
and Magic may--
672
00:40:28,887 --> 00:40:31,557
They may have resented each other
early on 'cause they were competitors.
673
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,602
He was on the cover of
Sports Illustrated, Basketball Weekly.
674
00:40:35,686 --> 00:40:38,230
All the basketball magazines.
675
00:40:38,313 --> 00:40:40,274
He was named College
Basketball Player of the Year.
676
00:40:40,357 --> 00:40:43,610
I still said, "Hey, probably
should've been me, but that's okay."
677
00:40:43,694 --> 00:40:45,237
I'm sure he was.
678
00:40:46,154 --> 00:40:47,865
As much as we could of each other.
679
00:40:47,948 --> 00:40:51,159
The numbers that he was putting up
the first year was incredible.
680
00:40:52,035 --> 00:40:57,416
It's hard when you can look in the mirror
and see a guy that played just like you.
681
00:40:57,499 --> 00:41:01,044
His drive to win was just as high as mine.
682
00:41:01,712 --> 00:41:05,257
He was a competitor
like I was a competitor.
683
00:41:06,008 --> 00:41:08,218
At that time,
I don't think either of us thought
684
00:41:08,302 --> 00:41:10,387
about what was gonna happen in the future.
685
00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:12,723
It was just the start
of something I knew that--
686
00:41:12,806 --> 00:41:14,474
that I was gonna be seeing him a lot.
687
00:41:14,558 --> 00:41:16,852
Arkansas is on a 14-game winning streak
688
00:41:16,935 --> 00:41:18,729
with 25 and 4 this season.
689
00:41:18,812 --> 00:41:20,397
Indiana State 31 and 0.
690
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,483
In 1979, I was governor of Arkansas.
691
00:41:23,567 --> 00:41:25,068
It was my first year.
692
00:41:25,152 --> 00:41:28,906
And Arkansas made the tournament,
and they were playing Indiana State.
693
00:41:30,365 --> 00:41:33,660
Nobody wanted to see Arkansas beat Indiana
694
00:41:33,744 --> 00:41:35,662
except the people from Arkansas.
695
00:41:35,746 --> 00:41:37,915
They wanted Bird and Magic in the final.
696
00:41:38,874 --> 00:41:42,461
The point guard for Indiana State,
who was a senior and very good,
697
00:41:42,544 --> 00:41:45,756
with time running out, he throws the ball
into his left hand,
698
00:41:45,839 --> 00:41:49,051
heaves it up. It bounces off the backboard
and goes in, and they win.
699
00:41:49,134 --> 00:41:50,719
It was an unbelievable game. I--
700
00:41:50,802 --> 00:41:53,430
And I looked at the guy
sittin' with me, and I said,
701
00:41:53,514 --> 00:41:58,435
"God now wants Magic and Larry Bird
to play in the final,
702
00:41:59,019 --> 00:42:01,271
and who are we to defy God's will?"
703
00:42:05,734 --> 00:42:07,819
It is Indiana State
against Michigan State.
704
00:42:07,903 --> 00:42:11,365
I'm Bryant Gumbel,
and the fans here are going bananas.
705
00:42:12,616 --> 00:42:17,829
The NCAA finals
between Michigan State and Indiana State
706
00:42:17,913 --> 00:42:19,748
was basketball heaven.
707
00:42:20,582 --> 00:42:23,710
Because you had two transcendent talents.
708
00:42:23,794 --> 00:42:25,337
The Magic Man, Earvin Johnson,
709
00:42:25,420 --> 00:42:27,381
against The Bird, Larry Bird,
of Indiana State.
710
00:42:27,464 --> 00:42:30,175
You didn't turn on the TV unless
they was talking about Magic, Bird.
711
00:42:30,259 --> 00:42:31,260
It was everywhere.
712
00:42:31,927 --> 00:42:33,887
You had this Magic Man
713
00:42:33,971 --> 00:42:38,308
against the hillbilly from French Lick,
Indiana, Larry Bird.
714
00:42:38,392 --> 00:42:42,145
And both of 'em had a
completely different kind of appeal.
715
00:42:43,355 --> 00:42:46,733
The country was divided
about who they were gonna cheer for.
716
00:42:47,776 --> 00:42:51,154
And let's not kid ourselves,
the racial contrasts were there too.
717
00:42:51,780 --> 00:42:54,616
White kid from Indiana in the country.
718
00:42:55,492 --> 00:42:57,911
City, urban Black kid.
719
00:42:57,995 --> 00:43:00,372
Hooking up for all the gold,
all the marbles.
720
00:43:00,455 --> 00:43:02,207
Everything was about them
721
00:43:02,291 --> 00:43:05,544
because there's a story about
opposites that attract, right?
722
00:43:05,627 --> 00:43:08,755
You got a Black guy,
and you got a white guy. Opposites.
723
00:43:08,839 --> 00:43:11,383
You got Michigan State,
and you got Indiana State.
724
00:43:11,466 --> 00:43:13,302
Their style of play, opposites.
725
00:43:14,887 --> 00:43:17,514
They were the two
best players in the country.
726
00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:21,310
Only one can win, and only one
can walk away with the crown.
727
00:43:21,393 --> 00:43:24,521
How many times do you get that
matchup for the championship?
728
00:43:27,191 --> 00:43:30,360
Tonight the Spartan season
concludes with a tense matchup
729
00:43:30,444 --> 00:43:32,321
against undefeated Indiana State.
730
00:43:32,404 --> 00:43:35,199
This will mark Larry Bird's
final college appearance
731
00:43:35,282 --> 00:43:37,951
and likely the same
for Earvin "Magic" Johnson.
732
00:43:40,162 --> 00:43:43,207
Even as we broke up,
I continued to watch the games
733
00:43:43,290 --> 00:43:45,000
and, you know, was a part of all of that
734
00:43:45,083 --> 00:43:47,461
'cause I-- you know,
I was still in love with him.
735
00:43:47,961 --> 00:43:51,715
And he wasn't really acknowledging
that he's dating the other girl,
736
00:43:51,798 --> 00:43:54,384
so I kept thinking
maybe we'll get back together.
737
00:43:55,761 --> 00:43:58,305
But by the time they went to the NCAA,
738
00:43:58,388 --> 00:44:01,517
and I'm watching it on TV
and I look in the audience,
739
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,519
and I see his mom in the stands.
740
00:44:03,602 --> 00:44:07,898
And she's right next to her.
And that just really crushed me.
741
00:44:09,233 --> 00:44:12,152
Watching that game
and then seeing that girl
742
00:44:12,236 --> 00:44:14,488
in the seat that I should've been in.
743
00:44:16,823 --> 00:44:19,326
You know, just--
It was tough watching that.
744
00:44:19,409 --> 00:44:21,828
It was really tough watching that.
745
00:44:21,912 --> 00:44:25,332
Michigan State wins the tip-off
with Donnelly in the backcourt.
746
00:44:25,415 --> 00:44:28,877
Taking control early, many think,
will be crucial to win this game.
747
00:44:28,961 --> 00:44:30,587
We knew it was gonna be tough
748
00:44:30,671 --> 00:44:33,590
but we had confidence that we
was gonna compete that night.
749
00:44:34,466 --> 00:44:37,302
The game plan
was for us to double-team him
750
00:44:37,386 --> 00:44:38,387
wherever he went.
751
00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:41,390
Don't give him no room to maneuver.
752
00:44:41,473 --> 00:44:45,102
Look, they have him sandwiched in.
Completely in, can't get him the ball.
753
00:44:45,185 --> 00:44:47,479
He was such an incredible shooter,
754
00:44:47,563 --> 00:44:50,399
we wanted to just get
right up in his chest
755
00:44:50,482 --> 00:44:52,234
and not give him any airspace.
756
00:44:52,317 --> 00:44:53,402
Surrounded me
757
00:44:53,485 --> 00:44:57,281
and made me take tougher shots
than I usually did.
758
00:44:57,364 --> 00:44:59,700
Johnson, three on one.
759
00:44:59,783 --> 00:45:02,578
Here it comes. The alley-oop.
That's Greg Kelser.
760
00:45:02,661 --> 00:45:05,789
Going into the second half,
we went up 16 points.
761
00:45:07,457 --> 00:45:09,501
And then everything changed.
762
00:45:09,585 --> 00:45:12,337
Earvin Johnson pushing for Michigan State,
763
00:45:12,421 --> 00:45:15,549
and Magic Johnson has his third foul.
764
00:45:15,632 --> 00:45:16,925
We had to fight through adversity
765
00:45:17,009 --> 00:45:18,844
because Earvin got three fouls
in the first half.
766
00:45:18,927 --> 00:45:21,847
A big guard in there,
along with a good-sized--
767
00:45:21,930 --> 00:45:24,766
Foul is on Kelser, number four.
768
00:45:24,850 --> 00:45:26,560
We were about to blow the game open.
769
00:45:26,643 --> 00:45:30,063
Greg Kelser got his fourth foul
and they came storming back.
770
00:45:31,398 --> 00:45:32,649
Bird.
771
00:45:33,275 --> 00:45:35,569
52 to 46.
772
00:45:35,652 --> 00:45:38,780
So, I knew I had
to make plays for us to win.
773
00:45:38,864 --> 00:45:41,950
Johnson. Magic Johnson with the ball.
774
00:45:43,368 --> 00:45:46,413
Last play of the game,
Earvin ends up with the ball.
775
00:45:46,496 --> 00:45:51,168
He throws it over his head about
three-quarters court down the floor…
776
00:45:51,251 --> 00:45:52,628
There's the pass!
777
00:45:52,711 --> 00:45:55,047
…to Kelser,
who flushes it to end the game.
778
00:45:58,509 --> 00:46:00,177
It's all over.
779
00:46:00,260 --> 00:46:06,058
Michigan State University,
National Champions, 1979.
780
00:46:06,141 --> 00:46:08,894
We were able to play to our potential,
781
00:46:08,977 --> 00:46:10,771
and it was a gratifying moment.
782
00:46:10,854 --> 00:46:12,689
But only one can make…
783
00:46:12,773 --> 00:46:16,026
It was one of the toughest losses
I've ever taken, and it still is today.
784
00:46:18,946 --> 00:46:22,783
Still the most-watched game
in college basketball history
785
00:46:22,866 --> 00:46:24,910
some 40-some years after it was played.
786
00:46:27,204 --> 00:46:30,707
The goal and dream
that I had set came to fruition,
787
00:46:30,791 --> 00:46:35,128
and so on the plane ride
going back to Michigan State
788
00:46:36,255 --> 00:46:37,548
I knew I was leaving.
789
00:46:37,631 --> 00:46:41,093
I was ready mentally,
physically, to turn pro.
790
00:46:43,887 --> 00:46:48,475
We did a lot of things in college that
I thought maybe would take four years,
791
00:46:48,559 --> 00:46:53,438
and it happened in two,
so I guess I gotta go on to the next step.
792
00:46:54,147 --> 00:46:57,025
And let's see what I can do in the NBA.
793
00:46:58,819 --> 00:47:00,863
I'm giving up a lot, you know.
794
00:47:01,697 --> 00:47:04,700
College is-- You're giving
up, you know, the students,
795
00:47:04,783 --> 00:47:10,038
you know, the chance to have a lot of fun.
796
00:47:11,623 --> 00:47:13,667
Just a lot of things, you know.
797
00:47:14,543 --> 00:47:19,339
He went on to win the NCAA
and then, you know, the very next year
798
00:47:19,423 --> 00:47:21,842
he opted to go to California.
799
00:47:22,968 --> 00:47:24,803
So, I was determined to finish school
800
00:47:24,887 --> 00:47:27,890
and get outta here and start a new life.
801
00:47:35,355 --> 00:47:37,691
On the eve of his very first day,
802
00:47:37,774 --> 00:47:41,320
I want you to know
that this man has a smile
803
00:47:41,403 --> 00:47:45,741
that lights up a television screen
from here to Bangor, Maine.
804
00:47:45,824 --> 00:47:48,243
I got butterflies in my stomach.
805
00:47:48,327 --> 00:47:51,914
I'm just tryna make sure
I can settle myself down.
806
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,458
So you're watching the debut
807
00:47:54,541 --> 00:47:56,835
of Magic Johnson
with the Los Angeles Lakers.
808
00:47:56,919 --> 00:47:59,213
And Magic Johnson missing one underneath.
809
00:48:00,422 --> 00:48:02,257
Loose ball, tangle of bodies.
810
00:48:02,341 --> 00:48:05,093
Johnson comes free and he travels.
811
00:48:05,177 --> 00:48:07,763
I can hear some basketball fans right now.
812
00:48:07,846 --> 00:48:09,014
They're saying, "See,
813
00:48:09,097 --> 00:48:11,850
Magic Johnson can't play
defense in the NBA."
814
00:48:11,934 --> 00:48:14,770
About the second quarter or so
I did settle down.
815
00:48:15,812 --> 00:48:18,857
Intercepted by Magic,
and here he comes from behind.
816
00:48:18,941 --> 00:48:21,610
A fake. The pass. Here we go.
817
00:48:21,693 --> 00:48:23,278
Five.
818
00:48:23,362 --> 00:48:24,655
Johnson back to Kareem.
819
00:48:25,489 --> 00:48:29,076
So, it has come down to this.
Ford sends it to Kareem.
820
00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:30,452
Skyhook up,
821
00:48:30,536 --> 00:48:33,455
and good! Lakers win! Score it!
822
00:48:33,539 --> 00:48:38,460
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar has given
the Los Angeles Lakers a victory!
823
00:48:38,544 --> 00:48:41,296
And Magic Johnson is out there celebrating
824
00:48:41,380 --> 00:48:44,091
like they just won the NCAA Championship.
825
00:48:44,174 --> 00:48:46,802
Magic starts running and jumping,
and we're all happy and stuff
826
00:48:46,885 --> 00:48:50,931
but we're happy because we won the game.
Magic is happy because he could see it.
827
00:48:51,014 --> 00:48:53,600
He saw the making of a championship team.
828
00:48:54,893 --> 00:48:57,229
I get in the locker room, Kareem say,
829
00:48:57,312 --> 00:49:00,107
"Rookie, don't ever do that again."
830
00:49:00,190 --> 00:49:01,817
We got 81 more games.
831
00:49:02,985 --> 00:49:06,655
You know, if we get
up to this emotional level
832
00:49:06,738 --> 00:49:11,702
every time we win, you know,
we'll be wasted by Christmas time.
833
00:49:11,785 --> 00:49:13,662
He pointed at me, so I pointed at him.
834
00:49:13,745 --> 00:49:16,582
"If you ever hit a shot like that
81 more times,
835
00:49:16,665 --> 00:49:19,585
I'ma jump in your arms 81 more times."
836
00:49:19,668 --> 00:49:22,171
And all of a sudden, we started to win.
837
00:49:22,254 --> 00:49:25,048
Someone that has captured
the imagination of the country
838
00:49:25,132 --> 00:49:28,093
is this man, the Magic Man, Mr. Johnson.
839
00:49:28,177 --> 00:49:31,054
He made it possible
for me to change my image
840
00:49:31,138 --> 00:49:34,224
in that we started winning.
You know, I could start smiling.
841
00:49:36,852 --> 00:49:38,979
He was exactly the player that we needed.
842
00:49:39,646 --> 00:49:42,149
Cool is out. Enthusiasm is in.
843
00:49:42,232 --> 00:49:43,567
And isn't it refreshing?
844
00:49:44,109 --> 00:49:45,402
These guys care for each other.
845
00:49:45,485 --> 00:49:47,446
-We're sort of a live group of guys--
-Homeboy.
846
00:49:47,529 --> 00:49:50,699
He didn't have nothing but a T-shirt on.
Now look at him. He's in silk shirts.
847
00:49:50,782 --> 00:49:51,909
Look at him.
848
00:49:52,659 --> 00:49:54,786
When them Lakers started winning,
849
00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:58,123
it united the city of Los Angeles.
850
00:49:58,207 --> 00:50:00,375
So, everybody felt like he was their hero.
851
00:50:00,876 --> 00:50:05,672
I fell in love with Magic Johnson
and what he did on the court.
852
00:50:05,756 --> 00:50:09,885
And the charisma he had
out with his media and public.
853
00:50:09,968 --> 00:50:13,472
Not only did Black America, not only
the young Black kids, Black teenagers
854
00:50:13,931 --> 00:50:16,308
fall in love with Magic Johnson.
855
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:20,646
But white America was falling in love
with Magic Johnson.
856
00:50:21,939 --> 00:50:27,236
Falling in love and looking up to
and feeling inspired by a Black male,
857
00:50:27,319 --> 00:50:28,862
you know, was almost unheard of.
858
00:50:30,614 --> 00:50:31,907
The Forum was in Inglewood.
859
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:34,368
I grew up 14 blocks away
and we got no tickets.
860
00:50:34,451 --> 00:50:37,871
We gotta figure out a way to sneak in.
We were able to run down a tunnel.
861
00:50:37,955 --> 00:50:39,998
And run past the guards, get into the--
862
00:50:40,082 --> 00:50:42,835
you know, get into the Forum
and just kinda take seats.
863
00:50:42,918 --> 00:50:44,503
Here we go again.
864
00:50:45,546 --> 00:50:47,005
I've never seen nothing like that.
865
00:50:47,089 --> 00:50:50,050
I've never seen anybody 6'9",
they were bringing the ball up the floor,
866
00:50:50,133 --> 00:50:53,345
there was control in the tempo,
directing the offense.
867
00:50:53,428 --> 00:50:55,681
Nobody played the game like he played it.
868
00:50:55,764 --> 00:50:58,851
He was an oxymoron.
He could play any position.
869
00:50:58,934 --> 00:51:00,686
He was a 6'9" point guard,
870
00:51:00,769 --> 00:51:02,729
and there wasn't one around at the time.
871
00:51:02,813 --> 00:51:04,606
Magic's hot and he knows it.
872
00:51:04,690 --> 00:51:06,692
What a pass to Cooper who scores!
873
00:51:06,775 --> 00:51:08,318
A no-look pass. But--
874
00:51:08,402 --> 00:51:10,404
Earvin's gonna make
a fantastic no-look pass.
875
00:51:10,487 --> 00:51:13,240
You know, look this way,
ball goes that way, behind the back.
876
00:51:13,323 --> 00:51:15,284
Wraparound the world, score!
877
00:51:15,367 --> 00:51:18,245
I'm no-looking to everybody, right?
878
00:51:18,328 --> 00:51:20,706
Through the legs, behind the back.
879
00:51:20,789 --> 00:51:24,585
Oh, man, and that crowd
would just go crazy.
880
00:51:24,668 --> 00:51:27,462
Magic had swagger. Magic was cool.
881
00:51:28,505 --> 00:51:33,594
You know,
he played with such joy, enthusiasm.
882
00:51:33,677 --> 00:51:35,345
I mean, he was my favorite player.
883
00:51:35,429 --> 00:51:37,181
The Lakers became my favorite team.
884
00:51:38,307 --> 00:51:39,766
People looked up to him.
885
00:51:39,850 --> 00:51:42,769
People admired him from both sides.
886
00:51:42,853 --> 00:51:44,897
People wanted to be him.
887
00:51:53,363 --> 00:51:57,659
Everybody knows this Magic,
the happy guy. The one who smiles.
888
00:51:58,452 --> 00:52:02,247
I think they might think that,
you know, nothing ever goes wrong,
889
00:52:02,331 --> 00:52:04,333
or he has no problems.
890
00:52:04,416 --> 00:52:08,045
He just smiles every day and,
and everything and--
891
00:52:09,588 --> 00:52:13,342
But I do have low points, and…
892
00:52:14,009 --> 00:52:17,930
Earvin Johnson is another guy. You know.
893
00:52:18,013 --> 00:52:21,183
Here's Magic over here,
and here's Earvin over here.
894
00:52:23,143 --> 00:52:25,354
During the first year
I was definitely homesick,
895
00:52:26,313 --> 00:52:29,107
so my phone bill was extremely high.
896
00:52:29,191 --> 00:52:31,318
He would call us all the time,
897
00:52:31,902 --> 00:52:34,696
you know, just about every day
or every other day.
898
00:52:36,990 --> 00:52:39,368
I've never been without my family.
899
00:52:39,451 --> 00:52:43,205
My father and my mother
always been at my games.
900
00:52:43,288 --> 00:52:47,000
Always still only 15, 20 minutes away
from the college
901
00:52:47,084 --> 00:52:49,670
so I could go home
and get a home-cooked meal.
902
00:52:49,753 --> 00:52:50,963
I can't do that anymore.
903
00:52:51,046 --> 00:52:54,508
I can't go get a hug
from my mother anymore
904
00:52:54,591 --> 00:52:58,595
or just advice from my father
face-to-face anymore.
905
00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:02,349
Here is the rookie sensation,
Earvin "Magic" Johnson.
906
00:53:02,432 --> 00:53:04,059
Tough when you play away from home.
907
00:53:04,142 --> 00:53:05,227
-Isn't it?
-Definitely.
908
00:53:05,310 --> 00:53:07,396
Not hearing the home crowd
screaming for you.
909
00:53:08,981 --> 00:53:10,691
The Forum was in Inglewood.
910
00:53:10,774 --> 00:53:13,944
Earvin lived close to Inglewood.
He lived sort of an insulated life.
911
00:53:14,528 --> 00:53:17,406
He would go home and go to his
little two-bedroom apartment.
912
00:53:17,906 --> 00:53:22,119
I stayed in my apartment all the time
because I was scared.
913
00:53:22,202 --> 00:53:26,456
I was still scared of LA
because LA was so big.
914
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,584
How's the social life out here?
915
00:53:29,334 --> 00:53:30,919
I mean, I know you work hard,
916
00:53:31,003 --> 00:53:32,379
-Yeah.
-but there's playtime too.
917
00:53:32,462 --> 00:53:34,047
Right, there's playtime.
918
00:53:35,299 --> 00:53:38,302
I was very much a guy who was guarded,
919
00:53:38,385 --> 00:53:41,513
and Norm Nixon told me
to watch out for people.
920
00:53:42,139 --> 00:53:44,892
Everybody was trying to…
921
00:53:45,642 --> 00:53:49,479
get to know, you know, the athletes,
and so I say, "Okay."
922
00:53:49,563 --> 00:53:51,815
You have to watch so much.
923
00:53:51,899 --> 00:53:53,400
Then you have to find out with--
924
00:53:53,483 --> 00:53:56,570
Are the people real?
Do they want you for you?
925
00:53:56,653 --> 00:53:59,448
Can you go out and just
forget about ball, you know?
926
00:53:59,531 --> 00:54:01,408
It's really hard. It's really hard.
927
00:54:02,367 --> 00:54:04,119
Good luck to you
and to the Los Angeles Lakers.
928
00:54:04,203 --> 00:54:05,454
-Nice being here.
-Thanks for being with us.
929
00:54:05,537 --> 00:54:07,706
Mr. Earvin "Magic" Johnson.
Thank you, sir.
930
00:54:08,415 --> 00:54:12,461
Here was this fresh young man
from Michigan,
931
00:54:13,045 --> 00:54:15,255
and he couldn't trust people.
932
00:54:16,465 --> 00:54:19,092
But that first year in Los Angeles,
933
00:54:19,176 --> 00:54:20,761
Jerry Buss bought the team.
934
00:54:22,554 --> 00:54:25,432
In 1979, Dr. Jerry Buss's dreams
935
00:54:25,516 --> 00:54:30,604
of sports ownership became reality
when he spent a record $67.5 million
936
00:54:30,687 --> 00:54:34,983
on the LA Lakers, the LA Kings
and their lucrative venue, the LA Forum.
937
00:54:38,695 --> 00:54:43,325
He knew I was a long way from home,
and he said, "Hey, young man.
938
00:54:43,408 --> 00:54:46,870
When we get back from training camp,
939
00:54:46,954 --> 00:54:51,375
one Saturday I want you to come,
and we gonna stand on the sideline
940
00:54:51,458 --> 00:54:52,793
of a USC game.
941
00:54:58,340 --> 00:55:01,009
Once he-- we went
to the first USC football game,
942
00:55:02,052 --> 00:55:04,263
that's when we started really hanging out.
943
00:55:05,138 --> 00:55:08,725
We started having lunch and dinners
after the Laker games.
944
00:55:09,810 --> 00:55:11,728
He would say meet him at this restaurant.
945
00:55:11,812 --> 00:55:15,732
So I would go meet him there,
and we would break bread together, talk.
946
00:55:15,816 --> 00:55:19,444
And then he just starts saying,
"Hey, come on over to the house.
947
00:55:20,070 --> 00:55:24,408
You have the gate pad number.
You can come anytime you want.
948
00:55:24,992 --> 00:55:27,786
And so I started going
over there all the time.
949
00:55:28,745 --> 00:55:34,960
We played pool at his house for hours,
and he sort of filled the void.
950
00:55:35,752 --> 00:55:40,048
I took him aside,
and I talked with him. And I said,
951
00:55:40,132 --> 00:55:43,635
"Will you please look
out after my baby for me?"
952
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,389
Dr. Buss said, "Mrs. Johnson," he said,
"I will take care of him."
953
00:55:47,472 --> 00:55:49,725
I felt more comfortable, you know,
954
00:55:49,808 --> 00:55:56,148
knowing that he had someone
that he could talk to, someone that would,
955
00:55:57,024 --> 00:55:59,067
you know, take care of him.
956
00:56:00,652 --> 00:56:03,197
Well, it became extremely close.
957
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,491
He was like Jerry's surrogate son.
958
00:56:07,367 --> 00:56:09,286
He was the apple of his eye,
that's for sure.
959
00:56:09,369 --> 00:56:11,205
Johnson from outta nowhere.
960
00:56:11,288 --> 00:56:16,627
The Suns took it easy. They had the layup.
And Magic Johnson just refused to give up,
961
00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:19,713
comes back inside,
gives it to Kareem. That might do it.
962
00:56:19,796 --> 00:56:21,798
Charisma,
that's what the young fella's got.
963
00:56:21,882 --> 00:56:23,675
He's had an excellent rookie season.
964
00:56:23,759 --> 00:56:26,762
The Los Angeles Lakers
are the new champions
965
00:56:26,845 --> 00:56:32,684
of the Western Conference
as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar pours in 38 points.
966
00:56:32,768 --> 00:56:34,770
Magic Johnson adds 20.
967
00:56:34,853 --> 00:56:36,063
I'm going crazy.
968
00:56:36,146 --> 00:56:39,399
Like, I just won the NCAA championship
the year before,
969
00:56:39,483 --> 00:56:44,196
and now I'm actually going
to the NBA Finals my rookie season.
970
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,033
It's been eight seasons
since the NBA championship has been a part
971
00:56:48,116 --> 00:56:49,660
of the LA sports scene.
972
00:56:49,743 --> 00:56:52,454
The style of the Lakers has always been
to make the play-offs
973
00:56:52,538 --> 00:56:55,582
but somehow fold in or before the Finals.
974
00:56:56,834 --> 00:56:58,627
I remember we kept pumping each other up,
975
00:56:58,710 --> 00:57:00,838
"Okay. We gotta do this.
We gotta do that."
976
00:57:00,921 --> 00:57:05,259
Well, earlier that week, the voting
for the Rookie of the Year came out.
977
00:57:08,512 --> 00:57:11,265
I thought it would be close.
It wasn't close. I was shocked.
978
00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:17,312
You know, when I learned
that Larry Bird had won by a wide margin,
979
00:57:18,063 --> 00:57:19,064
I didn't like it.
980
00:57:21,191 --> 00:57:23,569
Everybody always said
about me my first year,
981
00:57:23,652 --> 00:57:29,575
"He can pass. He can run a team,
but Larry Bird is a much better scorer."
982
00:57:29,658 --> 00:57:34,162
I was sitting there saying to myself,
"I can score, but that's not my role."
983
00:57:34,246 --> 00:57:36,415
I didn't like hearing that all the time.
984
00:57:38,125 --> 00:57:41,837
And so, you got me fired up going
into the NBA Finals.
985
00:57:43,005 --> 00:57:45,674
Philadelphia beat the
Boston Celtics four out of five.
986
00:57:45,757 --> 00:57:47,926
Julius Erving carried the load.
He averaged 25 a game.
987
00:57:48,010 --> 00:57:50,304
The Doctor will be the man
they'll have to go to.
988
00:57:50,387 --> 00:57:53,348
They had a real good team. Dr. J,
when they had Chocolate Thunder,
989
00:57:53,432 --> 00:57:54,266
Darryl Dawkins.
990
00:57:54,349 --> 00:57:57,019
Now, I was a Philadelphia 76ers fan.
991
00:57:57,102 --> 00:57:59,313
I'd had a Dr. J poster on my wall.
992
00:57:59,396 --> 00:58:01,815
I was pulling for Philly.
I was a Dr. J fan.
993
00:58:01,899 --> 00:58:05,485
We all wanted him to
win a championship but not against us.
994
00:58:05,569 --> 00:58:09,865
…underway.
Controlled by Dawkins who'll break free.
995
00:58:09,948 --> 00:58:12,701
It was a back-and-forth,
up-and-down series.
996
00:58:13,410 --> 00:58:16,038
We knew we had our hands full
with Philadelphia,
997
00:58:16,121 --> 00:58:19,124
but the one thing that was going
in our favor was nobody
998
00:58:19,208 --> 00:58:20,876
in the league could stop Kareem.
999
00:58:20,959 --> 00:58:22,461
Kareem moving the other way,
Dawkins can't--
1000
00:58:22,544 --> 00:58:25,672
-He was just unstoppable.
-I spoke to the team. I told 'em,
1001
00:58:26,340 --> 00:58:28,675
"Listen, I'm gonna be ready to do my job."
1002
00:58:28,759 --> 00:58:32,346
Goes to Magic, lob to Kareem…
1003
00:58:32,429 --> 00:58:36,183
And so, in game five at the Forum,
it was nip and tuck.
1004
00:58:36,266 --> 00:58:40,979
A 2-2 series, this is a big game
because we can go up 3-2.
1005
00:58:45,609 --> 00:58:46,652
Kareem's hurt.
1006
00:58:46,735 --> 00:58:50,072
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is injured.
There's no question about it.
1007
00:58:50,155 --> 00:58:52,366
In the middle of the third quarter,
1008
00:58:52,449 --> 00:58:54,535
Kareem has a sprain in his ankle.
1009
00:58:54,618 --> 00:58:58,080
Boy, they would be
in more than serious trouble without him.
1010
00:58:58,163 --> 00:59:01,250
We ended up closing out the game.
We're up 3-2 now.
1011
00:59:01,333 --> 00:59:03,502
Please. Give him some room here, please.
1012
00:59:03,585 --> 00:59:05,379
It was catastrophic.
1013
00:59:05,462 --> 00:59:08,048
Kareem was our captain,
and he was always there.
1014
00:59:08,131 --> 00:59:10,050
Consummate professional,
whether it was, you know,
1015
00:59:10,133 --> 00:59:13,428
had a migraine or not.
I think we were all hopeful.
1016
00:59:13,512 --> 00:59:16,431
If there was any way he could play,
he would play. We knew that.
1017
00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:20,185
The next morning, we're flying to Philly.
1018
00:59:20,269 --> 00:59:24,106
We get to the airport, and they said,
"Man, did you hear the news?"
1019
00:59:24,189 --> 00:59:25,190
I said, "What news?"
1020
00:59:25,274 --> 00:59:29,278
Our doctors let us know
that he was injured enough
1021
00:59:29,361 --> 00:59:31,780
that he wasn't gonna play game six.
1022
00:59:32,322 --> 00:59:36,577
We don't have the greatest scorer
in the history of the game with us.
1023
00:59:37,494 --> 00:59:40,289
How we gonna beat Philadelphia
without Kareem?
1024
00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:44,793
Everybody's sitting there, and
you could tell it was a lot of tension.
1025
00:59:44,877 --> 00:59:46,795
And everybody was, like, nervous.
1026
00:59:46,879 --> 00:59:49,089
Nobody was talking, which was strange.
1027
00:59:49,173 --> 00:59:50,716
How we gonna do this without our captain?
1028
00:59:50,799 --> 00:59:52,759
You know,
he's not even gonna make the trip.
1029
00:59:52,843 --> 00:59:54,428
This must really be bad.
1030
00:59:55,012 --> 00:59:58,932
They was all frustrated
and disappointed that he couldn't play.
1031
01:00:00,058 --> 01:00:02,144
So, I said, "I gotta do something."
1032
01:00:02,978 --> 01:00:04,730
Kareem used to get seat 1A.
1033
01:00:05,314 --> 01:00:07,941
There was only one person
who ever sat in 1A.
1034
01:00:09,109 --> 01:00:11,278
Kareem would sit in the first row
1035
01:00:11,361 --> 01:00:14,239
but Magic and I would sit
in the second row.
1036
01:00:14,323 --> 01:00:17,701
So, I'm in the second row,
and Magic sits in Kareem's seat.
1037
01:00:17,784 --> 01:00:19,995
He just turned around
and looked at everybody.
1038
01:00:20,078 --> 01:00:22,122
And goes,
1039
01:00:22,206 --> 01:00:24,958
"Have no fear,
Earvin Magic Johnson is here."
1040
01:00:26,752 --> 01:00:28,587
I'm 'bout to show you
1041
01:00:28,670 --> 01:00:32,382
and everybody on this team
what type of game I got.
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