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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,508 --> 00:00:09,009 Ready? 2 00:00:12,679 --> 00:00:14,890 Are you glad your name's Magic Johnson? 3 00:00:16,140 --> 00:00:18,018 I would think that puts pressure on you right there. 4 00:00:18,101 --> 00:00:18,936 Yeah. 5 00:00:20,187 --> 00:00:22,439 Ladies and gentleman, you know him, you love him. 6 00:00:22,523 --> 00:00:26,026 Please say hello to Number 32, Earvin ''Magic'' Johnson! 7 00:00:26,109 --> 00:00:27,194 Here we go! 8 00:00:28,695 --> 00:00:30,322 -Magic. Magic. -Magic. 9 00:00:30,405 --> 00:00:33,158 Magic Johnson, that's who I wanna be like. 10 00:00:33,242 --> 00:00:36,286 Magic Johnson, the man, the myth, the legend. 11 00:00:36,870 --> 00:00:40,791 Magic Johnson was about passing the basketball. 12 00:00:40,874 --> 00:00:43,585 Doing so with flash, dash and sizzle. 13 00:00:45,254 --> 00:00:49,508 Magic did it with a smile. He did it with joy. 14 00:00:49,591 --> 00:00:51,051 People became special around him. 15 00:00:51,134 --> 00:00:54,596 They got their own kind of mythology around themselves, 16 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,850 because they were on the team with this mythological cat. 17 00:00:58,976 --> 00:01:00,936 The way he played the game. 18 00:01:01,019 --> 00:01:05,022 Magic's no-look passes made it seem like he was clairvoyant, you know? 19 00:01:05,941 --> 00:01:08,944 Everybody wants to credit Michael Jordan for changing the NBA. 20 00:01:09,862 --> 00:01:13,282 When Magic Johnson came in, that's when the game changed. 21 00:01:13,991 --> 00:01:18,036 I was a Chicago Bulls fan, but I gotta say, 22 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,705 Magic Johnson was pretty good. 23 00:01:21,081 --> 00:01:23,292 Here he is! Magic Man. 24 00:01:23,375 --> 00:01:26,336 And you know that we're number one! 25 00:01:27,421 --> 00:01:32,467 He was the brightest star in the galaxy of stars. 26 00:01:33,010 --> 00:01:34,845 That's saying quite a bit here in Los Angeles. 27 00:01:34,928 --> 00:01:37,890 He's still the most popular athlete in Los Angeles. 28 00:01:37,973 --> 00:01:42,853 He is beloved by everyone in this town. Nobody doesn't like Magic. 29 00:01:44,104 --> 00:01:47,649 It wasn't "Magic." It was Earvin Johnson Jr. 30 00:01:48,775 --> 00:01:51,278 And if you notice, I went Earvin and Magic. 31 00:01:51,945 --> 00:01:54,239 Those are two different personalities. 32 00:01:54,323 --> 00:01:56,074 Magic loves the crowd, 33 00:01:56,158 --> 00:02:00,662 loves the atmosphere of being a basketball player. 34 00:02:00,746 --> 00:02:03,790 Earvin likes to get away from that. 35 00:02:03,874 --> 00:02:06,710 Earvin and Magic are very different people. 36 00:02:06,793 --> 00:02:09,463 Magic is just, like, in front of the camera, the big smile, 37 00:02:09,545 --> 00:02:11,632 laughing, loving the attention. 38 00:02:11,715 --> 00:02:13,634 Earvin's quite impatient and, you know, 39 00:02:13,717 --> 00:02:15,886 he's the one who's, like, very controlling. 40 00:02:15,969 --> 00:02:18,096 He put you through hell though, didn't he? 41 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,434 None of us call him Magic. He is Earvin and sometimes something else. 42 00:02:25,062 --> 00:02:27,272 Earvin don't like to lose. He don't like to lose nothin'. 43 00:02:27,356 --> 00:02:28,815 I don't care if it's checkers… 44 00:02:28,899 --> 00:02:33,612 The thing about Earvin "Magic" Johnson, he never wanted it easy. 45 00:02:33,695 --> 00:02:36,990 And I'm sure in his life, very few things came easy. 46 00:02:38,075 --> 00:02:40,577 Everything came fast and good to you, 47 00:02:40,661 --> 00:02:43,455 but it could easily be taken away, just as fast. 48 00:02:44,039 --> 00:02:45,374 He's Earvin. 49 00:02:45,457 --> 00:02:47,042 I don't call him Magic, 50 00:02:47,125 --> 00:02:50,587 'cause Magic is a character that played basketball. 51 00:02:50,671 --> 00:02:51,964 He's like a superhero. 52 00:02:58,095 --> 00:03:00,013 If that's Magic, I guess that's what I am. 53 00:03:52,482 --> 00:03:54,193 Earvin Johnson passes long! 54 00:03:54,276 --> 00:03:57,404 Johnson drives to the net. One of the best, perhaps the best, 55 00:03:57,487 --> 00:03:59,781 all-around college basketball player today. 56 00:04:06,246 --> 00:04:09,124 The rumors say that you've played your last college game 57 00:04:09,208 --> 00:04:11,668 and that you're heading away from Michigan State. 58 00:04:27,601 --> 00:04:28,644 Yeah. 59 00:04:30,812 --> 00:04:32,147 Scoot this up. 60 00:04:36,109 --> 00:04:40,614 Yeah, I'd like to say hello to all my teammates. 61 00:04:42,658 --> 00:04:44,826 And what's happening? 62 00:04:45,452 --> 00:04:47,788 I'd like to say good morning. It's a hot morning. 63 00:04:49,790 --> 00:04:51,875 And I'd like to say… 64 00:04:52,751 --> 00:04:54,378 it's been rough, you know. 65 00:04:54,461 --> 00:04:55,629 It's… 66 00:04:56,713 --> 00:04:58,715 I've been going through a lot, you know. 67 00:04:59,633 --> 00:05:02,469 Students, you know, the community, 68 00:05:02,553 --> 00:05:04,638 everybody wanna know what I'm gonna do, but-- 69 00:05:05,764 --> 00:05:08,350 Could Michigan State fans lose their star player, 70 00:05:08,433 --> 00:05:09,810 Earvin "Magic" Johnson? 71 00:05:09,893 --> 00:05:12,688 With shouts of triumph or tears of disappointment, 72 00:05:12,771 --> 00:05:15,065 many believe Johnson is likely to be the first pick 73 00:05:15,148 --> 00:05:16,567 in this year's NBA draft. 74 00:05:16,650 --> 00:05:20,237 The team's best positioned to get him would be the Lakers or the Bulls. 75 00:05:20,988 --> 00:05:26,034 I'll never forget how excited everybody was about that draft. 76 00:05:26,118 --> 00:05:29,454 Because we had a chance to draft Earvin ''Magic'' Johnson. 77 00:05:30,497 --> 00:05:34,334 You know, at the end of the '78, '79 season, 78 00:05:34,418 --> 00:05:38,005 two franchises flipped a coin to see who got first pick. 79 00:05:38,088 --> 00:05:42,009 So, the Lakers and the Bulls were headed for a coin flip. 80 00:05:42,092 --> 00:05:44,261 Magic's style on the court would breathe new life 81 00:05:44,344 --> 00:05:47,472 into Chicago, if he chooses to leave college early to go pro. 82 00:05:48,056 --> 00:05:51,226 I haven't had a lot of time to think about it, 83 00:05:51,310 --> 00:05:53,854 but I guess this is the deadline so I had to… 84 00:05:54,688 --> 00:05:56,356 give the answer up today. 85 00:05:57,524 --> 00:05:59,943 Bill Sharman and I had a conversation. 86 00:06:00,027 --> 00:06:03,280 Bill was GM of the Lakers, and I said to Bill, 87 00:06:03,363 --> 00:06:05,741 "Do you mind if we call the flip?" 88 00:06:05,824 --> 00:06:09,786 Because we're having our fans decide for us 89 00:06:09,870 --> 00:06:11,538 whether we're gonna call heads or tails. 90 00:06:11,622 --> 00:06:14,666 With NBA Commissioner Larry O'Brien ready to toss the coin 91 00:06:14,750 --> 00:06:19,046 and both teams waiting on the phone, Bulls GM Rod Thorn made his call. 92 00:06:19,671 --> 00:06:21,882 I had always been a tails guy. 93 00:06:23,091 --> 00:06:26,136 Our fans told us, "Call heads." 94 00:06:26,220 --> 00:06:28,138 Let's have Chicago's call. 95 00:06:28,222 --> 00:06:31,266 -Chicago calls heads. -Chicago calls heads. 96 00:06:31,850 --> 00:06:35,354 In New York, the commissioner flipped the coin. 97 00:06:36,396 --> 00:06:38,899 For the Lakers, this was that one guy 98 00:06:39,483 --> 00:06:42,194 that was going to change the destiny of this franchise. 99 00:06:42,277 --> 00:06:46,448 And when somebody gives you a nickname, "Magic", 100 00:06:47,950 --> 00:06:49,159 what do you expect? 101 00:06:52,204 --> 00:06:53,997 We'll now make the flip. 102 00:07:01,088 --> 00:07:02,089 Tails it is! 103 00:07:05,425 --> 00:07:07,803 In the off-season, some Laker prayers are answered. 104 00:07:07,886 --> 00:07:09,888 Los Angeles has first rights to Magic now. 105 00:07:11,974 --> 00:07:15,602 Okay, so next season… 106 00:07:17,229 --> 00:07:21,024 I'll be-- Well, today, I'll be applying for hardship. 107 00:07:21,108 --> 00:07:22,526 I'll be turning pro. 108 00:07:29,199 --> 00:07:31,368 It is now exactly 12:00 noon. 109 00:07:31,451 --> 00:07:35,080 The draft is officially open. I want to welcome all the fans 110 00:07:35,163 --> 00:07:38,041 that are gonna join in and help make this draft a success. 111 00:07:44,131 --> 00:07:47,718 The first pick is the Los Angeles Lakers. 112 00:07:49,511 --> 00:07:53,390 The Los Angeles Lakers select Earvin "Magic" Johnson, 113 00:07:53,473 --> 00:07:56,435 Michigan State, 6'8'', 200 pounds. 114 00:07:56,518 --> 00:07:59,438 Earvin "Magic" Johnson of Michigan State, 115 00:07:59,521 --> 00:08:01,773 was chosen by the Los Angeles Lakers today, 116 00:08:01,857 --> 00:08:05,944 as the number one pick in the National Basketball Association draft. 117 00:08:15,287 --> 00:08:19,708 I am Earvin "Magic" Johnson, and-- 118 00:08:19,791 --> 00:08:24,421 But I was born Earvin Johnson Jr. 119 00:08:27,633 --> 00:08:32,638 When I got drafted by the Lakers and I got off the plane in LA, 120 00:08:32,721 --> 00:08:34,722 oh, my goodness! 121 00:08:34,806 --> 00:08:38,477 I had to come in and prove I could play in the NBA 122 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,770 and lead the Lakers. 123 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,108 I really, really didn't want him to go. 124 00:08:45,192 --> 00:08:46,985 He was 19 years old. 125 00:08:47,945 --> 00:08:52,157 Going away from home, this would be the first time away from the family. 126 00:08:52,241 --> 00:08:56,286 And I just didn't know what was gonna happen to my baby. 127 00:08:56,370 --> 00:08:59,706 The LA Lakers had the number-one pick. They took Earvin "Magic" Johnson. 128 00:08:59,790 --> 00:09:02,209 And a young man who is so exciting. 129 00:09:02,292 --> 00:09:04,002 He is a delightful personality. 130 00:09:04,086 --> 00:09:06,547 He is lighting up all of Southern California. 131 00:09:09,341 --> 00:09:11,718 See this shit here? I bleed this shit. 132 00:09:12,511 --> 00:09:15,514 If I was Superman, this would be my "S" on my chest. 133 00:09:15,597 --> 00:09:17,683 But I ain't Superman. I'm Snooperman, 134 00:09:18,642 --> 00:09:19,935 and that's my symbol. 135 00:09:20,018 --> 00:09:21,228 Laker gang. 136 00:09:23,313 --> 00:09:25,983 I first heard about Magic in 1978. 137 00:09:26,066 --> 00:09:28,819 When he was getting it in, in college. 138 00:09:30,404 --> 00:09:32,531 And then the next year '79. 139 00:09:34,199 --> 00:09:38,829 When the Lakers got Magic Johnson, excitement ain't even the word. 140 00:09:49,006 --> 00:09:50,090 Here we are. 141 00:09:57,931 --> 00:10:00,058 I remember when he showed up, 142 00:10:00,767 --> 00:10:03,353 there was a rumor Earvin "Magic" Johnson was gonna come 143 00:10:03,437 --> 00:10:04,688 to the Summer League game. 144 00:10:05,606 --> 00:10:09,109 I'm on my way to the game, and I said to our trainer-- I said, 145 00:10:09,193 --> 00:10:10,861 "Well, how many people do they get?" 146 00:10:10,944 --> 00:10:13,989 And he said, "Well, they only get like a 100, 200 people at the game." 147 00:10:14,907 --> 00:10:18,660 Place is full, 2,500 to 3,000 people, standing room only, 148 00:10:18,744 --> 00:10:21,246 LA crowd, and he's walking. 149 00:10:22,206 --> 00:10:26,460 And there are just nothing but hundreds of kids following him. 150 00:10:26,543 --> 00:10:29,880 You could just feel that something different was going to happen. 151 00:10:29,963 --> 00:10:31,256 You could feel it in the air. 152 00:10:31,340 --> 00:10:32,549 I'll be definitely ready, 153 00:10:32,633 --> 00:10:35,427 especially if the fans be as beautiful as they were tonight. 154 00:10:35,511 --> 00:10:36,637 Fans, gonna be here? 155 00:10:38,388 --> 00:10:40,599 Cooper interview. Take one. 156 00:10:41,517 --> 00:10:42,601 I'm sorry. 157 00:10:43,185 --> 00:10:46,730 Michael Cooper. Los Angeles Lakers. AKA Dark Gable. 158 00:10:46,813 --> 00:10:50,609 AKA Lockdown Motherfucker. AKA Buck Naked. 159 00:10:53,820 --> 00:10:56,823 We're sitting in the locker room, and he hadn't gotten there yet. 160 00:10:56,907 --> 00:10:58,450 So, we're sitting there. 161 00:10:58,534 --> 00:11:01,161 This was gonna be my second year with the Lakers. 162 00:11:01,912 --> 00:11:03,705 And I knew something was up. 163 00:11:06,708 --> 00:11:10,003 We knew that Magic was in the parking lot 164 00:11:10,087 --> 00:11:12,422 because we could hear his boom box. 165 00:11:13,465 --> 00:11:17,261 I had this big boom box that I brought from Lansing, Michigan. 166 00:11:17,344 --> 00:11:21,598 And I was playing Parliament-Funkadelics at that time. 167 00:11:21,682 --> 00:11:25,519 His favorite group was, Parliament-Funkadelic. 168 00:11:25,602 --> 00:11:29,273 But Kareem, he liked the quiet music, you know? 169 00:11:44,371 --> 00:11:47,082 You hear that music, and all of a sudden, he walks in. 170 00:11:47,165 --> 00:11:48,375 Flashlight 171 00:11:57,801 --> 00:12:01,346 Kareem's a quiet man, so-- A man of few words. 172 00:12:01,430 --> 00:12:06,977 So, he just looked at me and said, "Rookie, cut that damn box off!" 173 00:12:08,020 --> 00:12:10,355 He went around and introduced himself to everybody, 174 00:12:10,439 --> 00:12:14,109 and he goes, "Hey, I'm Magic." He didn't say Earvin Magic. "I'm Magic." 175 00:12:14,193 --> 00:12:16,653 I said, "Magic, I'm Coop. How you doing?" 176 00:12:16,737 --> 00:12:19,656 And I said, "Welcome to the NBA, motherfucker." 177 00:12:27,039 --> 00:12:29,374 But when Magic got drafted by the Lakers, 178 00:12:29,458 --> 00:12:34,171 NBA was not considered a very glamorous league at that time. 179 00:12:34,254 --> 00:12:36,673 The league was like a mom-and-pop league. 180 00:12:36,757 --> 00:12:39,510 There wasn't a lot of money flowing around in those days. 181 00:12:40,010 --> 00:12:43,388 The National Basketball Association in its 33rd season is troubled 182 00:12:43,472 --> 00:12:46,433 by diminishing crowds and declining television ratings. 183 00:12:46,517 --> 00:12:49,228 Signs that fan interest may be waning. 184 00:12:50,979 --> 00:12:54,650 That October of 1979, the NBA was a mess. 185 00:12:55,192 --> 00:12:57,986 The NBA was considered too drug-infested, too Black, 186 00:12:58,946 --> 00:13:00,781 and the games were on tape delay. 187 00:13:00,864 --> 00:13:04,201 I remember watching games late night, and they were repeats. 188 00:13:04,284 --> 00:13:06,328 You had to tell your family, "Don't tell me who won. 189 00:13:06,411 --> 00:13:08,080 Don't tell me nothing about the game." 190 00:13:08,163 --> 00:13:11,124 It just wasn't popular enough to be in prime time. 191 00:13:11,208 --> 00:13:14,253 Dare to talk with the commissioner of the NBA, Larry O'Brien. 192 00:13:14,336 --> 00:13:15,838 What about the future of the NBA? 193 00:13:15,921 --> 00:13:18,549 When we talked last year, there were a lot of problems. 194 00:13:18,632 --> 00:13:22,219 Frankly, I get a little bit frustrated when I hear and read about it so often. 195 00:13:22,302 --> 00:13:25,764 The league not only was losing money, it was losing interest. 196 00:13:25,848 --> 00:13:28,767 This was not a good week for the National Basketball Association. 197 00:13:29,977 --> 00:13:33,188 I mean, it was known as a thuggish league. 198 00:13:33,272 --> 00:13:36,149 Violence in the National Basketball Association 199 00:13:36,233 --> 00:13:38,235 appears to be on the rise. 200 00:13:38,318 --> 00:13:41,905 They let people in the NBA fight then. You know? 201 00:13:44,408 --> 00:13:46,743 When things happened, people fought. 202 00:13:48,078 --> 00:13:52,374 The National Basketball Association today suspended Los Angeles Lakers forward, 203 00:13:52,457 --> 00:13:53,667 Kermit Washington. 204 00:13:54,376 --> 00:13:58,338 I remember when Kermit Washington hit Rudy Tomjanovich at the Forum. 205 00:13:58,422 --> 00:14:01,550 Broke his jaw. That was really one of the low points. 206 00:14:01,633 --> 00:14:05,929 It's turning off a lot of white customers that are coming to the game, you know? 207 00:14:06,013 --> 00:14:07,014 Why? 208 00:14:07,598 --> 00:14:11,351 I think there's a conflict between the white and the Black, and 209 00:14:11,435 --> 00:14:14,730 I don't enjoy going to the basketball and seeing all Black players. 210 00:14:14,813 --> 00:14:17,608 America was over 65, 70% white. 211 00:14:17,691 --> 00:14:21,904 People were not willing to embrace the product into their living rooms. 212 00:14:22,654 --> 00:14:27,326 And there was talk of certain teams even folding. 213 00:14:27,409 --> 00:14:29,244 It was "survive." 214 00:14:29,328 --> 00:14:33,874 Can we survive a, you know, another year? Can we survive another week? 215 00:14:33,957 --> 00:14:37,377 And now, starting for your Los Angeles Lakers… 216 00:14:37,461 --> 00:14:40,005 The Lakers at that time weren't thought of as champions. 217 00:14:40,088 --> 00:14:41,673 They were thought of as contenders. 218 00:14:41,757 --> 00:14:44,551 West. West all alone. Look at Russell come down. 219 00:14:44,635 --> 00:14:46,094 And what a play by Russell! 220 00:14:47,221 --> 00:14:49,806 I remember my first year in Los Angeles. 221 00:14:49,890 --> 00:14:53,852 The Lakers were on the last page of the newspaper. The last page. 222 00:14:54,603 --> 00:14:56,855 We would get in the back of trucks 223 00:14:56,939 --> 00:15:00,192 and go in the neighborhoods with microphones. 224 00:15:00,275 --> 00:15:04,112 "Come out and see the Lakers play. Come out and see the Lakers play." 225 00:15:04,196 --> 00:15:08,492 Since 1960, I mean, the Lakers got beat six times in a row 226 00:15:08,575 --> 00:15:10,369 by Bill Russell and the Celtics. 227 00:15:11,453 --> 00:15:15,332 We lost so many times in the Finals. I played nine Finals. 228 00:15:15,415 --> 00:15:17,751 We won one time in nine Finals, 229 00:15:17,835 --> 00:15:20,546 and it was probably the most horrid feeling in my life. 230 00:15:20,629 --> 00:15:24,174 I actually-- I wanted to quit basketball. 231 00:15:25,843 --> 00:15:28,095 We just didn't have the team that could win. 232 00:15:28,178 --> 00:15:30,597 You know, we had a good team. I played very well. 233 00:15:30,681 --> 00:15:34,601 I won an MVP, but we couldn't really contend 234 00:15:34,685 --> 00:15:37,437 for the championship without the right players on the court. 235 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,113 Is Magic Johnson your favorite basketball player? 236 00:15:48,156 --> 00:15:49,867 Not seeing no magic. 237 00:15:51,535 --> 00:15:52,619 No. 238 00:15:52,703 --> 00:15:54,371 That was one of the many questions heard 239 00:15:54,454 --> 00:15:56,915 at the Forum as the Lakers held their annual picture day 240 00:15:56,999 --> 00:15:59,251 before leaving for Palm Springs and training camp. 241 00:15:59,334 --> 00:16:01,461 And their hopes are high for the '79-'80 season. 242 00:16:09,344 --> 00:16:13,098 When I got to training camp as a rookie, 243 00:16:13,182 --> 00:16:16,101 I went in there-- At first I was so nervous. 244 00:16:17,269 --> 00:16:19,229 Magic, you talk about getting to know things 245 00:16:19,313 --> 00:16:20,606 and making these adjustments. 246 00:16:20,689 --> 00:16:22,524 What are the big adjustments that you're making? 247 00:16:22,608 --> 00:16:25,402 I think-- You know, you got so many different… 248 00:16:25,485 --> 00:16:28,488 plays and so many different combinations you can go on offense. 249 00:16:28,572 --> 00:16:31,408 And then on defense, just trying to stay with your man 250 00:16:31,491 --> 00:16:34,161 and then trying to learn some of them hold moves. I'm-- 251 00:16:35,329 --> 00:16:38,248 When he first got there, there was some friction 252 00:16:38,332 --> 00:16:40,250 with this Magic Johnson. 253 00:16:40,334 --> 00:16:43,003 Who's gonna be the leader? Is it gonna be Kareem? 254 00:16:43,086 --> 00:16:44,588 Is it gonna be Magic? 255 00:16:44,671 --> 00:16:49,134 There's a tradition of harassing the rookies in the NBA. 256 00:16:49,218 --> 00:16:55,140 The older players get to be cruel and unusual with the rookies. 257 00:16:55,224 --> 00:16:59,478 Kareem said, "Hey, I want Earvin Johnson to be my rookie." 258 00:16:59,561 --> 00:17:03,065 I said, "Oh, okay." You know, I'm like, 259 00:17:03,148 --> 00:17:08,862 "I'll do anything for you. You a legend. You the best player in the NBA." 260 00:17:08,945 --> 00:17:14,034 I had to have his newspaper at his door at, like, 7:00, 7:30 in the morning. 261 00:17:14,117 --> 00:17:17,412 Every time it was a time-out in practice, 262 00:17:17,496 --> 00:17:22,501 he wants two waters and two Gatorades, and it better be cold. 263 00:17:22,584 --> 00:17:23,585 I said, "No problem." 264 00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:25,378 So, Norm Nixon called me aside. 265 00:17:25,462 --> 00:17:28,924 "Man, act like you been here before. Relax a little bit." 266 00:17:29,007 --> 00:17:33,220 He was a target, you know? And he just had to be careful. 267 00:17:34,638 --> 00:17:36,723 So, we're in practice. 268 00:17:36,807 --> 00:17:39,935 I was boxing out Ron Boone. 269 00:17:40,018 --> 00:17:43,230 All of a sudden, I look up at the rim and the ball, 270 00:17:43,313 --> 00:17:48,735 and he had hit me right behind my head really hard. 271 00:17:48,819 --> 00:17:50,279 And he was just smiling. 272 00:17:50,362 --> 00:17:52,239 Ronnie Boone, he's a warhorse. 273 00:17:52,322 --> 00:17:54,241 I don't think he's ever missed a game in his life. 274 00:17:54,324 --> 00:17:55,492 Ron was old-school. 275 00:17:55,576 --> 00:17:59,413 As tough as they come. He'd look at you and you'd say, "What did I do?" 276 00:17:59,496 --> 00:18:00,998 Love him as a human being. 277 00:18:01,081 --> 00:18:03,083 As a basketball player? Nasty fucker, man. 278 00:18:03,166 --> 00:18:05,294 Ron would not back down to anybody. 279 00:18:05,377 --> 00:18:08,630 And he probably wanted to let the rookie know that the-- 280 00:18:08,714 --> 00:18:11,633 You know, "I've been here for 12 years, so don't mess with me." 281 00:18:13,343 --> 00:18:15,929 The next time, he's boxing me out. 282 00:18:16,555 --> 00:18:17,848 Ron Boone? 283 00:18:17,931 --> 00:18:19,308 Let's see what you got. 284 00:18:19,391 --> 00:18:22,311 You think, first of all, you drafted the wrong dude? 285 00:18:22,394 --> 00:18:24,188 Okay. I got something for you. 286 00:18:25,314 --> 00:18:30,694 So I ran in as fast as I could, and I hit him as hard as I could. 287 00:18:31,778 --> 00:18:34,156 He shouldn't have woke that quiet bear up, see? 288 00:18:34,239 --> 00:18:35,240 He woke me up. 289 00:18:35,824 --> 00:18:37,618 So, Jerry West came over. 290 00:18:37,701 --> 00:18:42,164 He pulled me aside and he said, "Magic, I like that." 291 00:18:42,247 --> 00:18:46,210 And I said, "Do you want Earvin Johnson to play basketball, 292 00:18:46,293 --> 00:18:49,213 or do you want Magic Johnson to play basketball?" 293 00:18:49,296 --> 00:18:53,091 I said, "I'd rather see Magic Johnson play basketball." 294 00:19:02,726 --> 00:19:07,231 You know, growing up in a small town like Lansing, Michigan-- 295 00:19:08,190 --> 00:19:09,525 Let me tell you something. 296 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,111 Nobody really heard about Earvin Johnson. 297 00:19:14,238 --> 00:19:16,615 I mean, who's Earvin Johnson? 298 00:19:18,867 --> 00:19:21,578 A person coming from Lansing-- You had to prove yourself. 299 00:19:21,662 --> 00:19:24,957 If you were really good, you had to go out and prove a point 300 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,210 that this little boy from Lansing, Michigan had game. 301 00:19:28,293 --> 00:19:29,628 You know? 302 00:19:32,756 --> 00:19:35,843 Lansing is a hardworking town. 303 00:19:37,094 --> 00:19:39,388 You either worked in the car industry, 304 00:19:40,013 --> 00:19:43,350 or you worked, really, for the state. There's only two jobs. 305 00:19:45,519 --> 00:19:48,564 My father worked for General Motors for 30 years. 306 00:19:48,647 --> 00:19:50,649 He was never late. Never missed a day. 307 00:19:52,109 --> 00:19:54,903 And he worked on the line with the welding. 308 00:19:54,987 --> 00:19:58,407 So, his shirt would have holes in 'em from all the sparks flying. 309 00:20:00,284 --> 00:20:02,619 My mother worked for the school cafeteria. 310 00:20:03,412 --> 00:20:06,582 They were both hardworking people, blue-collar people. 311 00:20:08,208 --> 00:20:10,169 My father was in the service. 312 00:20:10,252 --> 00:20:13,964 And every time he came home, he made a baby. 313 00:20:16,425 --> 00:20:18,677 That's why we're all in a row. 314 00:20:19,678 --> 00:20:20,888 Michael Johnson. 315 00:20:20,971 --> 00:20:22,055 Larry Johnson. 316 00:20:22,139 --> 00:20:24,266 -Pearl Johnson. -Kim Johnson-Ray. 317 00:20:24,349 --> 00:20:26,101 Evelyn Johnson. 318 00:20:26,185 --> 00:20:30,480 I have six sisters, three brothers. I'm the baby boy. 319 00:20:30,564 --> 00:20:32,983 We used to call him Junebug. 320 00:20:33,066 --> 00:20:36,236 I don't even know where that came from. 321 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,530 All I know, we-- They called him Junebug. 322 00:20:38,614 --> 00:20:41,533 Junebug. That was when he was little. 323 00:20:41,617 --> 00:20:44,703 He was so joyful all the time. 324 00:20:44,786 --> 00:20:48,248 I think that was a fitting nickname for him. 325 00:20:48,916 --> 00:20:51,126 -I don't think he liked it. -Oh, no. 326 00:20:51,210 --> 00:20:53,754 That stuck with him for a long time. Every now and then, 327 00:20:53,837 --> 00:20:56,590 somebody that-- When he's home. "Hey, Junebug!" 328 00:20:56,673 --> 00:21:00,010 Then, as he grew up, we started calling him Earvin. 329 00:21:01,428 --> 00:21:03,138 We used to have some games, man. 330 00:21:03,222 --> 00:21:07,017 I tell you those one-on-one games were just… hard. 331 00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:08,101 We fought. 332 00:21:08,685 --> 00:21:11,146 We both roughed each other up, you know, 333 00:21:11,230 --> 00:21:14,274 'cause then neither one of us wanna lose, you know. 334 00:21:14,358 --> 00:21:17,110 And at a young age he wouldn't let nothing get by, you know. 335 00:21:17,194 --> 00:21:20,197 So we had our time where we had to scrap and stuff 336 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,366 on the ground, and stuff during a game. 337 00:21:22,449 --> 00:21:24,910 Arguing about who won and who-- you know. 338 00:21:24,993 --> 00:21:29,957 But Earv was that go-getter, you know. 339 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,292 Whatever he wanted to do, he was gonna do it. 340 00:21:35,629 --> 00:21:38,882 Main Street School was the mecca of Lansing, Michigan. 341 00:21:38,966 --> 00:21:41,593 If you were the best player in Lansing, 342 00:21:41,677 --> 00:21:44,054 you had to come to Main Street School. 343 00:21:44,137 --> 00:21:48,392 That's where you gonna get the action at, because guys were coming from all over. 344 00:21:48,475 --> 00:21:51,895 If you lose a game, you might not play again for another two hours. 345 00:21:51,979 --> 00:21:55,607 'Cause guys is lined up, and they always had their teams ready to go. 346 00:21:55,691 --> 00:21:57,776 Whether you had to cheat to win, or whatever, 347 00:21:57,860 --> 00:21:59,361 you wanted to stay on that court. 348 00:21:59,444 --> 00:22:01,864 I'ma pick the dudes that gonna play their role, 349 00:22:01,947 --> 00:22:04,992 so that we can win and stay out on that court all day. 350 00:22:05,075 --> 00:22:08,078 I played in the rain. I played in the snow. 351 00:22:08,161 --> 00:22:09,162 It didn't matter. 352 00:22:09,246 --> 00:22:11,331 Sunup to sundown. 353 00:22:11,415 --> 00:22:14,126 And then I started playing against older boys, 354 00:22:14,209 --> 00:22:16,336 and then I started playing against men. 355 00:22:16,420 --> 00:22:18,672 Even my father and my uncle. 356 00:22:19,548 --> 00:22:23,719 My father, my uncle fouled me, but they said there was no foul, 357 00:22:23,802 --> 00:22:25,929 so I had to play through that. 358 00:22:26,013 --> 00:22:30,434 I didn't want him to be out there, crybaby each time somebody hit him, 359 00:22:30,517 --> 00:22:32,519 or bump him into the jaw, he'd cry. 360 00:22:33,145 --> 00:22:36,982 They said, "Okay, he can hold his own, and he's strong enough 361 00:22:37,065 --> 00:22:38,984 and physical enough to--" 362 00:22:39,067 --> 00:22:41,361 to handle the beating that they were gonna give me. 363 00:22:42,029 --> 00:22:44,239 And nobody outworked me in the neighborhood. 364 00:22:44,323 --> 00:22:49,203 I was on the court more than any kid. I mean, it wasn't even close. 365 00:22:49,286 --> 00:22:51,371 And I wanted it more. 366 00:23:01,507 --> 00:23:03,091 One of my very best friends 367 00:23:03,175 --> 00:23:06,553 wrote high school sports for the Lansing State Journal. 368 00:23:06,637 --> 00:23:11,391 And one December Friday night, he called me and he said, 369 00:23:11,475 --> 00:23:13,644 "Have you heard of this kid Earvin Johnson?" 370 00:23:13,727 --> 00:23:16,271 I was assigned to cover Earvin's first game. 371 00:23:16,355 --> 00:23:20,817 50 to 49. Earvin had 12 points, ten rebounds and fouled out. 372 00:23:23,654 --> 00:23:25,072 And so I get back to the office 373 00:23:25,155 --> 00:23:28,575 and everybody wants to know how this Earvin Johnson kid is. 374 00:23:28,659 --> 00:23:32,746 I said, "Well, he's 6'5'' type kid. He's gonna be a good player one day, 375 00:23:32,829 --> 00:23:34,540 but he wasn't anything special in that game.'' 376 00:23:34,623 --> 00:23:38,252 We beat 'em by one point, on a rebound at the buzzer. 377 00:23:40,128 --> 00:23:42,381 And my brother came into the locker room. 378 00:23:42,464 --> 00:23:47,553 He says, "George, he might be an all-city and maybe an all-stater. 379 00:23:47,636 --> 00:23:49,304 He's no all-American." 380 00:23:50,222 --> 00:23:51,431 But I thought, "Wait." 381 00:23:53,308 --> 00:23:56,603 Somehow, fate had me be assigned to the second game. 382 00:23:56,687 --> 00:23:59,314 We went to play one of the schools that's supposedly good 383 00:23:59,398 --> 00:24:00,774 in the state of Michigan. 384 00:24:00,858 --> 00:24:03,110 And we blew them out on their home court. 385 00:24:03,193 --> 00:24:07,990 I always tell people, he had 36 points, 20 rebounds, 15 assists and 10 steals. 386 00:24:08,073 --> 00:24:10,701 As a 15-year-old, that was my first triple-double. 387 00:24:10,784 --> 00:24:12,536 And my brother came up to me 388 00:24:12,619 --> 00:24:14,955 and he says, "George, he'll make you forget 389 00:24:15,038 --> 00:24:17,916 about every other basketball player we've had in this area." 390 00:24:18,542 --> 00:24:22,045 It was the most amazing performance I'd ever seen 391 00:24:22,129 --> 00:24:25,591 by anybody, and he was his second game of his high school career. 392 00:24:25,674 --> 00:24:29,553 So the sportswriter came in and he said, "Listen, man, I'm-- 393 00:24:29,636 --> 00:24:32,723 I haven't seen a performance like that ever in my life." 394 00:24:32,806 --> 00:24:36,059 -He says, "I wanna give you a nickname." -"Earvin, we gotta call you something." 395 00:24:36,143 --> 00:24:39,605 Somebody's called Biggie. Somebody's called Dr. J. 396 00:24:39,688 --> 00:24:41,023 How about Magic? 397 00:24:41,106 --> 00:24:43,400 You know, you're like, "Yeah, right." 398 00:24:43,483 --> 00:24:46,486 You know, you start laughing like, "Yeah, yeah, okay that--" 399 00:24:46,570 --> 00:24:49,740 My boys not gonna call me "Magic." You know? 400 00:24:54,286 --> 00:24:58,290 And within two months, everybody in Michigan knew who Magic was. 401 00:24:59,833 --> 00:25:02,794 When I first started playing basketball in high school, 402 00:25:02,878 --> 00:25:05,506 everybody started talking about this guy from East Lansing. 403 00:25:06,089 --> 00:25:09,259 Magic Johnson. Magic, Magic, Magic. 404 00:25:09,927 --> 00:25:14,056 And I was like, "Magic? Man, I need to watch this." 405 00:25:15,265 --> 00:25:18,268 And I had heard about this kid, you know, Earvin ''Magic'' Johnson. 406 00:25:18,352 --> 00:25:20,187 I was like, "Who's this dude? Earvin 'Magic' Johnson." 407 00:25:20,270 --> 00:25:24,816 Never saw him, but just kept hearing how great he was as a basketball player. 408 00:25:24,900 --> 00:25:26,652 There he goes. Watch it for three… 409 00:25:26,735 --> 00:25:29,196 "Have you seen this kid in Lansing?" 410 00:25:29,821 --> 00:25:32,908 "This 15-year-old Black kid from the Midwest. 411 00:25:33,617 --> 00:25:35,702 They call him Magic. Have you seen him?" 412 00:25:35,786 --> 00:25:38,497 Earvin Johnson, you're a very sought-after player. 413 00:25:38,580 --> 00:25:41,875 You shoot well, you pass well, you dribble, score, assist. 414 00:25:41,959 --> 00:25:43,710 We're trying to figure out what you do best. 415 00:25:43,794 --> 00:25:45,546 Do you know? We can't figure it out. 416 00:25:45,629 --> 00:25:48,131 When the newspapers really started getting involved, 417 00:25:48,215 --> 00:25:50,717 and then he started getting the big headlines-- 418 00:25:50,801 --> 00:25:54,179 You know, that's when he basically became the pied piper. 419 00:25:54,263 --> 00:25:57,266 Whatever game he was playing, everybody wanted to go see it. 420 00:26:11,822 --> 00:26:15,659 Everywhere we would go, you could not find a seat any place. 421 00:26:15,742 --> 00:26:17,452 You just could not find a seat. 422 00:26:18,287 --> 00:26:22,416 I still remember the ticket scalping, the extra police there for security. 423 00:26:27,713 --> 00:26:30,799 It wasn't any kind of ordinary stuff that he did. 424 00:26:30,883 --> 00:26:34,761 He did stuff that I'd never seen on a basketball floor before. 425 00:26:34,845 --> 00:26:37,973 He's up and down the court. Just behind his back, 426 00:26:38,056 --> 00:26:40,893 throwing no-look passes. Just doing everything. 427 00:26:42,144 --> 00:26:45,397 Earvin was a fierce competitor. 428 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,441 God, he was competitive. 429 00:26:48,859 --> 00:26:51,820 A lot of the other kids-- white kids, they wanted to beat him. 430 00:26:52,487 --> 00:26:55,032 And I'll never forget that they were playing Benton Harbor, 431 00:26:55,115 --> 00:26:57,618 a tradition-rich basketball school in Michigan history. 432 00:26:57,701 --> 00:27:02,372 They practiced first, and as they exit the floor 433 00:27:02,456 --> 00:27:05,292 and it was our turn to go onto the floor, a dude said, 434 00:27:05,876 --> 00:27:08,295 "Which one of you dudes Earvin Johnson? 435 00:27:08,378 --> 00:27:11,423 I just want you to know, tomorrow you in trouble." 436 00:27:12,466 --> 00:27:16,136 All my teammates were like, "Man. He talking trash." 437 00:27:16,220 --> 00:27:18,597 I said, "You just wait till tomorrow night." 438 00:27:22,142 --> 00:27:25,354 It was 9,000 people, sold out I think. 439 00:27:25,854 --> 00:27:29,858 I remember one play in the game and a guy stepped on the back of my foot, 440 00:27:29,942 --> 00:27:31,902 so my shoe came off. 441 00:27:31,985 --> 00:27:34,905 For the next two or three minutes, I'm playing with one shoe on. 442 00:27:36,365 --> 00:27:39,910 In that three minutes, I made, like, five plays. 443 00:27:40,744 --> 00:27:42,913 He still went down the court with one shoe on 444 00:27:42,996 --> 00:27:45,624 and did a dazzling move and scored. 445 00:27:45,707 --> 00:27:48,877 Laid it in, and the people were just going crazy. 446 00:27:48,961 --> 00:27:50,587 It was just building. 447 00:27:50,671 --> 00:27:54,258 And by the time Benton Harbor coach called the time-out, 448 00:27:54,341 --> 00:27:56,343 the place just erupted. 449 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,848 I said, "Look at the scoreboard." 450 00:28:00,931 --> 00:28:03,684 That's all. I don't have to talk trash. Just look up. 451 00:28:08,564 --> 00:28:11,358 I never saw somebody's reputation 452 00:28:11,441 --> 00:28:16,572 as a high school player grow as fast, in all my years, in any sport. 453 00:28:19,116 --> 00:28:22,828 I just knew he was not gonna go away. 454 00:28:25,330 --> 00:28:28,709 I do know one thing, that his mother was not real fond 455 00:28:28,792 --> 00:28:30,919 of the nickname "Magic" when he was given it. 456 00:28:31,003 --> 00:28:34,298 How about the nickname "Magic?" How'd you take to that? 457 00:28:34,381 --> 00:28:40,762 Well, I really never liked that, you know, because it had such a-- 458 00:28:40,846 --> 00:28:44,224 such an impact on him, you know. 459 00:28:44,308 --> 00:28:49,646 People expect so much from him because of that name. 460 00:28:57,070 --> 00:28:59,239 We had a big press conference at Everett High School. 461 00:28:59,323 --> 00:29:00,908 It was the big news. 462 00:29:02,826 --> 00:29:05,579 Every TV station within 50 miles was here. 463 00:29:05,662 --> 00:29:06,788 All right. 464 00:29:08,874 --> 00:29:11,126 Is there any questions before I get started? 465 00:29:13,378 --> 00:29:18,008 No, next year I will be attending Michigan State University. 466 00:29:21,011 --> 00:29:22,679 Michigan State University. 467 00:29:22,763 --> 00:29:26,850 Earvin ''Magic'' Johnson directing the Spartan Ballet Company 468 00:29:26,934 --> 00:29:28,644 from East Lansing, Michigan. 469 00:29:28,727 --> 00:29:31,271 Magic Johnson comes from the Lansing area, 470 00:29:31,355 --> 00:29:33,607 which is something we're all very proud of here. 471 00:29:36,860 --> 00:29:41,114 The whole city recruited Earvin Johnson. It wasn't just Michigan State. 472 00:29:42,032 --> 00:29:43,909 That enthusiasm that he showed. 473 00:29:43,992 --> 00:29:47,120 That electricity permeated through the building. 474 00:29:48,330 --> 00:29:49,414 It was-- 475 00:29:50,666 --> 00:29:51,959 It was mesmerizing. 476 00:29:53,168 --> 00:29:55,379 Magic Johnson, he's a coach on the floor. 477 00:29:55,462 --> 00:29:57,714 His play's under control. He's got great hands. 478 00:29:57,798 --> 00:30:00,968 A great passer. The way he goes, so goes the Spartans. 479 00:30:01,051 --> 00:30:05,889 They had a bad season the year before, but most of the players were coming back. 480 00:30:05,973 --> 00:30:10,727 Greg Kelser was there, and I put Jay Vincent in that lineup, 481 00:30:10,811 --> 00:30:12,646 and I put myself in the lineup. I said, 482 00:30:12,729 --> 00:30:16,441 "Man, I think we can win the Big Ten." 483 00:30:16,525 --> 00:30:19,528 I could not wait for the season to begin. 484 00:30:19,611 --> 00:30:23,115 So we can enjoy this chemistry and camaraderie. 485 00:30:23,198 --> 00:30:24,700 And it clicked right away. 486 00:30:24,783 --> 00:30:27,286 We were just having a good time. 487 00:30:29,454 --> 00:30:33,333 We had a nice boom box and record player in the locker room. 488 00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:36,420 When he joined, that was his thing. 489 00:30:36,503 --> 00:30:38,672 He took that over so we just left it alone. 490 00:30:39,423 --> 00:30:43,093 The one that we adopted, the song by the Jimmy Castor Bunch, 491 00:30:44,094 --> 00:30:45,304 is called "Potential." 492 00:30:46,054 --> 00:30:50,058 Potential, spelled P-O-T-E-N-T-I-A-L. And we used to spell that out. 493 00:30:50,142 --> 00:30:52,686 Because our thought was that we were a young club, 494 00:30:52,769 --> 00:30:54,730 trying to reestablish ourselves. 495 00:30:54,813 --> 00:30:57,733 So play to your potential and see how many teams can beat you. 496 00:31:00,194 --> 00:31:02,487 Earvin fashioned himself as a disc jockey. 497 00:31:02,571 --> 00:31:05,240 You know, his moniker was EJ the DJ. 498 00:31:07,284 --> 00:31:09,494 EJ the DJ. 499 00:31:09,578 --> 00:31:12,206 EJ the DJ. Yeah, yeah. 500 00:31:12,289 --> 00:31:15,250 You know, he would deejay on his off days, 501 00:31:15,334 --> 00:31:17,961 and before every game he had to get into a groove. 502 00:31:18,712 --> 00:31:21,423 And boy did-- I don't know what music did to him, 503 00:31:21,507 --> 00:31:26,011 but he'd go out and get a triple-double like it wasn't nothing. You know, so… 504 00:31:26,094 --> 00:31:30,432 And so then I started deejaying at all the local clubs, 505 00:31:30,516 --> 00:31:33,644 and I was getting paid to be there to deejay. 506 00:31:33,727 --> 00:31:37,272 And then it was the last day before we left 507 00:31:37,356 --> 00:31:39,066 to go home for Christmas break. 508 00:31:40,734 --> 00:31:43,987 We go to this famous nightspot called Dooley's. 509 00:31:44,071 --> 00:31:48,116 -It was a party place. -Everybody on campus went to Dooley's. 510 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,245 But it was just the place to be, to go. 511 00:31:51,328 --> 00:31:54,706 But we were sheltered. We didn't hang out. We didn't do those things. 512 00:31:54,790 --> 00:31:56,667 This was our first time being grown-ups. 513 00:31:56,750 --> 00:32:00,671 You know, away from home. Hanging out, drinking, having a good time. 514 00:32:01,964 --> 00:32:04,883 A young lady came in and said hi to us. 515 00:32:05,968 --> 00:32:09,388 But right behind her was this beautiful, 516 00:32:10,097 --> 00:32:14,685 beautiful young lady named Cookie she introduced us to. 517 00:32:15,686 --> 00:32:21,608 We said hello, I ran into my other friends and, you know, danced and had a good time. 518 00:32:21,692 --> 00:32:23,026 She walked away... 519 00:32:23,944 --> 00:32:25,070 and I said... 520 00:32:28,198 --> 00:32:30,158 "I got to get to know her." 521 00:32:30,826 --> 00:32:36,707 Man, that's when "Jamaica Funk" and "Ring My Bell" just had hit. 522 00:32:44,047 --> 00:32:46,800 And I watched her on the dance floor. 523 00:32:47,426 --> 00:32:50,220 And Cookie could dance. 524 00:32:50,304 --> 00:32:51,972 So, Jay kept elbowing me, 525 00:32:52,055 --> 00:32:54,766 saying, "Man, if you don't get her phone number." 526 00:32:54,850 --> 00:32:55,976 The lights came up. 527 00:32:56,059 --> 00:32:57,477 Everybody was leaving. 528 00:32:57,561 --> 00:32:58,729 And I started walking out. 529 00:32:58,812 --> 00:33:02,524 And I stood right by the door 'cause I couldn't miss my opportunity. 530 00:33:02,608 --> 00:33:04,359 And as I walked past him, he said, 531 00:33:04,443 --> 00:33:06,028 "Hey, lemme get that phone number." 532 00:33:06,111 --> 00:33:10,240 "I would like to get your phone number so when we come back from Christmas break, 533 00:33:10,324 --> 00:33:12,242 maybe we could go out or something." 534 00:33:12,326 --> 00:33:14,453 I laughed at him and I said, 535 00:33:14,536 --> 00:33:18,081 "You'll never remember my name and remember to call me." 536 00:33:18,165 --> 00:33:21,335 -I said, "I'm gonna call you." -I gave him the number, and I said, 537 00:33:21,418 --> 00:33:23,420 "Okay, but you'll never remember who I am." 538 00:33:24,296 --> 00:33:26,632 Indiana working the ball. Forecourt. Bounce pass. 539 00:33:26,715 --> 00:33:28,884 Michigan State played a Christmas tournament. 540 00:33:28,967 --> 00:33:31,595 I was sitting with my mother watching the game, and I was like, 541 00:33:31,678 --> 00:33:34,848 "Mom, that guy right there, he asked me for my number when I left." 542 00:33:34,932 --> 00:33:37,184 And I was like, "He'll never remember me." 543 00:33:37,267 --> 00:33:39,186 And we laughed. We had a good laugh about it. 544 00:33:41,647 --> 00:33:46,193 I went back early because I had to finish registering for some classes, 545 00:33:46,276 --> 00:33:49,530 and I remember the day that I walked into the room, 546 00:33:49,613 --> 00:33:50,822 the phone started ringing. 547 00:33:50,906 --> 00:33:53,116 Like, literally we were walking in with our bags, 548 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,994 and the phone started ringing. I picked it up, and it was him. 549 00:33:56,078 --> 00:33:58,372 She said, "I never thought you were gonna call me." 550 00:33:58,455 --> 00:34:02,918 And I'm thinking, "How did he even know that I just walked into my room?" 551 00:34:03,001 --> 00:34:05,170 That we even came back 'cause we came back early. 552 00:34:05,254 --> 00:34:06,338 I just played it off-- 553 00:34:06,421 --> 00:34:09,216 "Yeah, you know a brother know these type of things." 554 00:34:10,384 --> 00:34:12,219 She didn't know I was calling every day 555 00:34:12,302 --> 00:34:14,638 about five times a day trying to reach her. 556 00:34:18,725 --> 00:34:21,645 And he found out my birthday was January 20th. 557 00:34:21,728 --> 00:34:24,481 And so then he asked me, 558 00:34:24,565 --> 00:34:26,692 "Can I take you out for your birthday?" 559 00:34:26,775 --> 00:34:29,027 You know, and I thought, "Oh, wow, okay." 560 00:34:29,110 --> 00:34:33,322 I was really shocked, you know, and excited about it. 561 00:34:33,407 --> 00:34:35,492 I went home and told my father, 562 00:34:35,576 --> 00:34:39,580 "I want to put on a suit to take her out on my first date." 563 00:34:40,956 --> 00:34:44,543 And he said, "Wow, you must really like this girl. 564 00:34:45,043 --> 00:34:48,130 How long you known her?" I said, "Dad, I don't know her yet." 565 00:34:49,214 --> 00:34:51,175 We had a great time at dinner, 566 00:34:51,257 --> 00:34:54,219 and it was like we were best friends instantly, you know. 567 00:34:54,303 --> 00:34:56,263 We just-- Easy talking to each other. 568 00:34:56,346 --> 00:34:58,348 We talked at the restaurant. 569 00:34:58,432 --> 00:35:00,475 Then we went over to my uncle's house. 570 00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:03,312 We sat there and listened to music, and we talked some more. 571 00:35:04,438 --> 00:35:05,772 Cookie was amazing. 572 00:35:06,648 --> 00:35:12,529 And Cookie was serious about graduating, so she was driven like I was. 573 00:35:13,363 --> 00:35:17,534 For me, I was most impressed with the fact of how down-to-earth he was. 574 00:35:17,618 --> 00:35:21,622 He was so cool and so funny and so normal, you know. 575 00:35:21,705 --> 00:35:23,707 That's what I fell in love with. 576 00:35:24,208 --> 00:35:26,627 The first few months was just incredible. 577 00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:29,129 Cookie and I had the best time. 578 00:35:29,213 --> 00:35:33,300 I stayed on the phone with Cookie on the road all night. 579 00:35:33,383 --> 00:35:35,844 Actually, we would fall asleep, 580 00:35:36,845 --> 00:35:39,556 and the phone's off the hook, you know. 581 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,934 We would fall asleep talking to each other. 582 00:35:42,017 --> 00:35:43,602 It'd be 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning. 583 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,857 I think for him, I was always just that place 584 00:35:48,941 --> 00:35:53,111 where he could relax and be supported. 585 00:35:53,195 --> 00:35:58,325 Whether he won, lost or, you know, was really tired or sick. 586 00:35:58,951 --> 00:36:01,328 Whatever I needed, even before I needed it, 587 00:36:01,411 --> 00:36:04,206 she would say, "Hey, I know-- You look tired. 588 00:36:04,289 --> 00:36:06,834 Come, just lay down on my bed. I'm gonna just study." 589 00:36:08,085 --> 00:36:10,921 I think that's what made me fall in love with her too. 590 00:36:12,673 --> 00:36:15,759 Because of those moments at Michigan State, 591 00:36:15,843 --> 00:36:17,636 we were building something together. 592 00:36:22,391 --> 00:36:24,476 Him being the focal point 593 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,187 of Michigan State's basketball team, 594 00:36:27,271 --> 00:36:28,605 it wasn't easy. 595 00:36:30,107 --> 00:36:33,485 And the pressure he was under once the season started. 596 00:36:33,819 --> 00:36:37,447 You know, he was very strict about his regimen before a game. 597 00:36:37,531 --> 00:36:41,076 What he ate, and how he needed quiet-- 598 00:36:41,785 --> 00:36:43,412 Dark room, just his music. 599 00:36:47,124 --> 00:36:50,085 And I would go to the basketball games and 600 00:36:50,169 --> 00:36:52,629 sometimes I would wait for him after the game. 601 00:36:52,713 --> 00:36:55,048 But he always told me, "Just go back to the dorms, 602 00:36:55,132 --> 00:36:56,884 and I'll meet you there after the game." 603 00:36:56,967 --> 00:37:00,345 There was no just hanging around talking or going home. 604 00:37:00,429 --> 00:37:03,015 Right then and there, "I'll call you when I get home. Bye." 605 00:37:03,765 --> 00:37:05,392 She said, "Well, why can't I wait 606 00:37:05,475 --> 00:37:08,270 because all the other players' girlfriends are waiting?" 607 00:37:08,353 --> 00:37:10,898 I said, "Just go to the dorm, and I'll see you afterward." 608 00:37:10,981 --> 00:37:12,482 That was our first big argument. 609 00:37:12,566 --> 00:37:14,943 Everybody was trying to talk to Earvin. 610 00:37:15,527 --> 00:37:17,863 All the girls, "Earvin. I want Ear--" 611 00:37:17,946 --> 00:37:20,949 No, not Earvin. "I want Magic. I want Magic." 612 00:37:21,033 --> 00:37:23,535 You know, there were girls everywhere. 613 00:37:24,036 --> 00:37:28,665 I get in his car one day and I see pictures on the floor 614 00:37:28,749 --> 00:37:34,588 of him, you know, taking somebody to their dance. 615 00:37:34,671 --> 00:37:37,341 And I'm thinking, "What is this?" 616 00:37:37,424 --> 00:37:39,801 And he says, "Oh, no. It's just a friend of mine. 617 00:37:39,885 --> 00:37:42,012 I just took her. She broke up with her boyfriend." 618 00:37:42,095 --> 00:37:45,974 And I thought, "No. I don't think that that's what's going on." 619 00:37:46,058 --> 00:37:47,309 -She was very hurt. -Yeah. 620 00:37:47,392 --> 00:37:49,228 -Very hurt. -Hurt bad. 621 00:37:49,811 --> 00:37:50,979 Because we knew how-- 622 00:37:51,063 --> 00:37:53,065 -We knew how she felt. -We knew how she felt. 623 00:37:53,148 --> 00:37:56,109 -We knew she loved. -Right. 624 00:37:56,193 --> 00:37:58,695 You know, they just really-- It really devastated her. 625 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,533 You know, she saw that I was dating other people 626 00:38:02,616 --> 00:38:06,203 so it wasn't a good look for me. 627 00:38:06,286 --> 00:38:07,996 'Cause she said, "You moved on. 628 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,623 Okay, then I'ma start dating other people." 629 00:38:09,706 --> 00:38:10,749 And I didn't like that. 630 00:38:10,832 --> 00:38:12,918 We got into an argument, and then I said, 631 00:38:13,001 --> 00:38:16,922 "Listen. It can't be both of us. You know, you can't date her and then me." 632 00:38:17,005 --> 00:38:18,799 He's like, "I'm not dating her, but--" 633 00:38:18,882 --> 00:38:21,176 And I said, "No, you gotta choose one or the other." 634 00:38:21,260 --> 00:38:22,594 And he said, "I'm not choosing." 635 00:38:22,678 --> 00:38:24,680 So I said, "Well, I will. I'm out." 636 00:38:32,145 --> 00:38:35,065 I remember back in those days when I used to see him a lot. 637 00:38:35,148 --> 00:38:38,277 And we were just standing there talking. I says, "Earvin, do you know, 638 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:43,198 there's a 6'8" or 9" kid somewhere in a gym in this country, 639 00:38:44,616 --> 00:38:48,495 and he's got all your skills. 640 00:38:49,454 --> 00:38:51,331 Is he gonna outwork you?" 641 00:38:52,541 --> 00:38:55,544 A year later, I'm talking to him somewhere, 642 00:38:55,627 --> 00:38:57,212 and he says, "Hey, Coach. 643 00:38:57,296 --> 00:39:00,924 Remember that story you told me about somebody outworking me?" 644 00:39:01,425 --> 00:39:03,010 He says, "I found him." 645 00:39:06,847 --> 00:39:09,099 At the end of my freshman season, 646 00:39:09,183 --> 00:39:12,644 they decide to invite the best college basketball players 647 00:39:12,728 --> 00:39:14,646 to represent the United States. 648 00:39:16,565 --> 00:39:19,359 The first day of practice, I'm watching him shoot, 649 00:39:19,443 --> 00:39:22,863 and it's nothing but net, like 30 times in a row. 650 00:39:23,864 --> 00:39:26,533 I'm like, "Whoo. Man, this dude can shoot." 651 00:39:27,242 --> 00:39:29,578 I'm going into that game, didn't know much about him. 652 00:39:29,661 --> 00:39:31,663 Just knew he's a talented basketball player. 653 00:39:31,747 --> 00:39:32,664 And he was walking around 654 00:39:32,748 --> 00:39:36,001 with a big music box on his shoulder, everywhere he went. 655 00:39:36,084 --> 00:39:39,296 That's when I saw Larry Bird up close. 656 00:39:43,258 --> 00:39:46,762 We would get in the game and start throwing no-look passes, 657 00:39:46,845 --> 00:39:49,348 and he'd start hittin' 'em long jump shots. 658 00:39:49,973 --> 00:39:51,767 Earvin Johnson, look at that-- 659 00:39:51,850 --> 00:39:54,770 One time, I came down, threw a no-look to Larry, 660 00:39:54,853 --> 00:39:57,105 he got it, threw a no-look back to me, 661 00:39:57,189 --> 00:39:59,691 and I laid it up. And the people went nuts. 662 00:40:01,026 --> 00:40:03,445 And, man, after that I went back and told everybody, 663 00:40:03,529 --> 00:40:06,323 "Larry Bird, he's for real." 664 00:40:07,324 --> 00:40:08,742 The next season, 665 00:40:08,825 --> 00:40:12,287 he would lead his team to a 33 and 0 season. 666 00:40:12,371 --> 00:40:13,622 33 and 0. 667 00:40:14,957 --> 00:40:17,876 Now, we had to face a ton of good guys in the Big Ten, 668 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,255 but we had never faced one individual talent like Larry Bird. 669 00:40:23,131 --> 00:40:24,508 Bird was an assassin. 670 00:40:24,591 --> 00:40:26,760 He was a one-man wrecking crew at Indiana State, 671 00:40:26,844 --> 00:40:28,804 and Magic may-- 672 00:40:28,887 --> 00:40:31,557 They may have resented each other early on 'cause they were competitors. 673 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,602 He was on the cover of Sports Illustrated, Basketball Weekly. 674 00:40:35,686 --> 00:40:38,230 All the basketball magazines. 675 00:40:38,313 --> 00:40:40,274 He was named College Basketball Player of the Year. 676 00:40:40,357 --> 00:40:43,610 I still said, "Hey, probably should've been me, but that's okay." 677 00:40:43,694 --> 00:40:45,237 I'm sure he was. 678 00:40:46,154 --> 00:40:47,865 As much as we could of each other. 679 00:40:47,948 --> 00:40:51,159 The numbers that he was putting up the first year was incredible. 680 00:40:52,035 --> 00:40:57,416 It's hard when you can look in the mirror and see a guy that played just like you. 681 00:40:57,499 --> 00:41:01,044 His drive to win was just as high as mine. 682 00:41:01,712 --> 00:41:05,257 He was a competitor like I was a competitor. 683 00:41:06,008 --> 00:41:08,218 At that time, I don't think either of us thought 684 00:41:08,302 --> 00:41:10,387 about what was gonna happen in the future. 685 00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:12,723 It was just the start of something I knew that-- 686 00:41:12,806 --> 00:41:14,474 that I was gonna be seeing him a lot. 687 00:41:14,558 --> 00:41:16,852 Arkansas is on a 14-game winning streak 688 00:41:16,935 --> 00:41:18,729 with 25 and 4 this season. 689 00:41:18,812 --> 00:41:20,397 Indiana State 31 and 0. 690 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,483 In 1979, I was governor of Arkansas. 691 00:41:23,567 --> 00:41:25,068 It was my first year. 692 00:41:25,152 --> 00:41:28,906 And Arkansas made the tournament, and they were playing Indiana State. 693 00:41:30,365 --> 00:41:33,660 Nobody wanted to see Arkansas beat Indiana 694 00:41:33,744 --> 00:41:35,662 except the people from Arkansas. 695 00:41:35,746 --> 00:41:37,915 They wanted Bird and Magic in the final. 696 00:41:38,874 --> 00:41:42,461 The point guard for Indiana State, who was a senior and very good, 697 00:41:42,544 --> 00:41:45,756 with time running out, he throws the ball into his left hand, 698 00:41:45,839 --> 00:41:49,051 heaves it up. It bounces off the backboard and goes in, and they win. 699 00:41:49,134 --> 00:41:50,719 It was an unbelievable game. I-- 700 00:41:50,802 --> 00:41:53,430 And I looked at the guy sittin' with me, and I said, 701 00:41:53,514 --> 00:41:58,435 "God now wants Magic and Larry Bird to play in the final, 702 00:41:59,019 --> 00:42:01,271 and who are we to defy God's will?" 703 00:42:05,734 --> 00:42:07,819 It is Indiana State against Michigan State. 704 00:42:07,903 --> 00:42:11,365 I'm Bryant Gumbel, and the fans here are going bananas. 705 00:42:12,616 --> 00:42:17,829 The NCAA finals between Michigan State and Indiana State 706 00:42:17,913 --> 00:42:19,748 was basketball heaven. 707 00:42:20,582 --> 00:42:23,710 Because you had two transcendent talents. 708 00:42:23,794 --> 00:42:25,337 The Magic Man, Earvin Johnson, 709 00:42:25,420 --> 00:42:27,381 against The Bird, Larry Bird, of Indiana State. 710 00:42:27,464 --> 00:42:30,175 You didn't turn on the TV unless they was talking about Magic, Bird. 711 00:42:30,259 --> 00:42:31,260 It was everywhere. 712 00:42:31,927 --> 00:42:33,887 You had this Magic Man 713 00:42:33,971 --> 00:42:38,308 against the hillbilly from French Lick, Indiana, Larry Bird. 714 00:42:38,392 --> 00:42:42,145 And both of 'em had a completely different kind of appeal. 715 00:42:43,355 --> 00:42:46,733 The country was divided about who they were gonna cheer for. 716 00:42:47,776 --> 00:42:51,154 And let's not kid ourselves, the racial contrasts were there too. 717 00:42:51,780 --> 00:42:54,616 White kid from Indiana in the country. 718 00:42:55,492 --> 00:42:57,911 City, urban Black kid. 719 00:42:57,995 --> 00:43:00,372 Hooking up for all the gold, all the marbles. 720 00:43:00,455 --> 00:43:02,207 Everything was about them 721 00:43:02,291 --> 00:43:05,544 because there's a story about opposites that attract, right? 722 00:43:05,627 --> 00:43:08,755 You got a Black guy, and you got a white guy. Opposites. 723 00:43:08,839 --> 00:43:11,383 You got Michigan State, and you got Indiana State. 724 00:43:11,466 --> 00:43:13,302 Their style of play, opposites. 725 00:43:14,887 --> 00:43:17,514 They were the two best players in the country. 726 00:43:18,390 --> 00:43:21,310 Only one can win, and only one can walk away with the crown. 727 00:43:21,393 --> 00:43:24,521 How many times do you get that matchup for the championship? 728 00:43:27,191 --> 00:43:30,360 Tonight the Spartan season concludes with a tense matchup 729 00:43:30,444 --> 00:43:32,321 against undefeated Indiana State. 730 00:43:32,404 --> 00:43:35,199 This will mark Larry Bird's final college appearance 731 00:43:35,282 --> 00:43:37,951 and likely the same for Earvin "Magic" Johnson. 732 00:43:40,162 --> 00:43:43,207 Even as we broke up, I continued to watch the games 733 00:43:43,290 --> 00:43:45,000 and, you know, was a part of all of that 734 00:43:45,083 --> 00:43:47,461 'cause I-- you know, I was still in love with him. 735 00:43:47,961 --> 00:43:51,715 And he wasn't really acknowledging that he's dating the other girl, 736 00:43:51,798 --> 00:43:54,384 so I kept thinking maybe we'll get back together. 737 00:43:55,761 --> 00:43:58,305 But by the time they went to the NCAA, 738 00:43:58,388 --> 00:44:01,517 and I'm watching it on TV and I look in the audience, 739 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,519 and I see his mom in the stands. 740 00:44:03,602 --> 00:44:07,898 And she's right next to her. And that just really crushed me. 741 00:44:09,233 --> 00:44:12,152 Watching that game and then seeing that girl 742 00:44:12,236 --> 00:44:14,488 in the seat that I should've been in. 743 00:44:16,823 --> 00:44:19,326 You know, just-- It was tough watching that. 744 00:44:19,409 --> 00:44:21,828 It was really tough watching that. 745 00:44:21,912 --> 00:44:25,332 Michigan State wins the tip-off with Donnelly in the backcourt. 746 00:44:25,415 --> 00:44:28,877 Taking control early, many think, will be crucial to win this game. 747 00:44:28,961 --> 00:44:30,587 We knew it was gonna be tough 748 00:44:30,671 --> 00:44:33,590 but we had confidence that we was gonna compete that night. 749 00:44:34,466 --> 00:44:37,302 The game plan was for us to double-team him 750 00:44:37,386 --> 00:44:38,387 wherever he went. 751 00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:41,390 Don't give him no room to maneuver. 752 00:44:41,473 --> 00:44:45,102 Look, they have him sandwiched in. Completely in, can't get him the ball. 753 00:44:45,185 --> 00:44:47,479 He was such an incredible shooter, 754 00:44:47,563 --> 00:44:50,399 we wanted to just get right up in his chest 755 00:44:50,482 --> 00:44:52,234 and not give him any airspace. 756 00:44:52,317 --> 00:44:53,402 Surrounded me 757 00:44:53,485 --> 00:44:57,281 and made me take tougher shots than I usually did. 758 00:44:57,364 --> 00:44:59,700 Johnson, three on one. 759 00:44:59,783 --> 00:45:02,578 Here it comes. The alley-oop. That's Greg Kelser. 760 00:45:02,661 --> 00:45:05,789 Going into the second half, we went up 16 points. 761 00:45:07,457 --> 00:45:09,501 And then everything changed. 762 00:45:09,585 --> 00:45:12,337 Earvin Johnson pushing for Michigan State, 763 00:45:12,421 --> 00:45:15,549 and Magic Johnson has his third foul. 764 00:45:15,632 --> 00:45:16,925 We had to fight through adversity 765 00:45:17,009 --> 00:45:18,844 because Earvin got three fouls in the first half. 766 00:45:18,927 --> 00:45:21,847 A big guard in there, along with a good-sized-- 767 00:45:21,930 --> 00:45:24,766 Foul is on Kelser, number four. 768 00:45:24,850 --> 00:45:26,560 We were about to blow the game open. 769 00:45:26,643 --> 00:45:30,063 Greg Kelser got his fourth foul and they came storming back. 770 00:45:31,398 --> 00:45:32,649 Bird. 771 00:45:33,275 --> 00:45:35,569 52 to 46. 772 00:45:35,652 --> 00:45:38,780 So, I knew I had to make plays for us to win. 773 00:45:38,864 --> 00:45:41,950 Johnson. Magic Johnson with the ball. 774 00:45:43,368 --> 00:45:46,413 Last play of the game, Earvin ends up with the ball. 775 00:45:46,496 --> 00:45:51,168 He throws it over his head about three-quarters court down the floor… 776 00:45:51,251 --> 00:45:52,628 There's the pass! 777 00:45:52,711 --> 00:45:55,047 …to Kelser, who flushes it to end the game. 778 00:45:58,509 --> 00:46:00,177 It's all over. 779 00:46:00,260 --> 00:46:06,058 Michigan State University, National Champions, 1979. 780 00:46:06,141 --> 00:46:08,894 We were able to play to our potential, 781 00:46:08,977 --> 00:46:10,771 and it was a gratifying moment. 782 00:46:10,854 --> 00:46:12,689 But only one can make… 783 00:46:12,773 --> 00:46:16,026 It was one of the toughest losses I've ever taken, and it still is today. 784 00:46:18,946 --> 00:46:22,783 Still the most-watched game in college basketball history 785 00:46:22,866 --> 00:46:24,910 some 40-some years after it was played. 786 00:46:27,204 --> 00:46:30,707 The goal and dream that I had set came to fruition, 787 00:46:30,791 --> 00:46:35,128 and so on the plane ride going back to Michigan State 788 00:46:36,255 --> 00:46:37,548 I knew I was leaving. 789 00:46:37,631 --> 00:46:41,093 I was ready mentally, physically, to turn pro. 790 00:46:43,887 --> 00:46:48,475 We did a lot of things in college that I thought maybe would take four years, 791 00:46:48,559 --> 00:46:53,438 and it happened in two, so I guess I gotta go on to the next step. 792 00:46:54,147 --> 00:46:57,025 And let's see what I can do in the NBA. 793 00:46:58,819 --> 00:47:00,863 I'm giving up a lot, you know. 794 00:47:01,697 --> 00:47:04,700 College is-- You're giving up, you know, the students, 795 00:47:04,783 --> 00:47:10,038 you know, the chance to have a lot of fun. 796 00:47:11,623 --> 00:47:13,667 Just a lot of things, you know. 797 00:47:14,543 --> 00:47:19,339 He went on to win the NCAA and then, you know, the very next year 798 00:47:19,423 --> 00:47:21,842 he opted to go to California. 799 00:47:22,968 --> 00:47:24,803 So, I was determined to finish school 800 00:47:24,887 --> 00:47:27,890 and get outta here and start a new life. 801 00:47:35,355 --> 00:47:37,691 On the eve of his very first day, 802 00:47:37,774 --> 00:47:41,320 I want you to know that this man has a smile 803 00:47:41,403 --> 00:47:45,741 that lights up a television screen from here to Bangor, Maine. 804 00:47:45,824 --> 00:47:48,243 I got butterflies in my stomach. 805 00:47:48,327 --> 00:47:51,914 I'm just tryna make sure I can settle myself down. 806 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,458 So you're watching the debut 807 00:47:54,541 --> 00:47:56,835 of Magic Johnson with the Los Angeles Lakers. 808 00:47:56,919 --> 00:47:59,213 And Magic Johnson missing one underneath. 809 00:48:00,422 --> 00:48:02,257 Loose ball, tangle of bodies. 810 00:48:02,341 --> 00:48:05,093 Johnson comes free and he travels. 811 00:48:05,177 --> 00:48:07,763 I can hear some basketball fans right now. 812 00:48:07,846 --> 00:48:09,014 They're saying, "See, 813 00:48:09,097 --> 00:48:11,850 Magic Johnson can't play defense in the NBA." 814 00:48:11,934 --> 00:48:14,770 About the second quarter or so I did settle down. 815 00:48:15,812 --> 00:48:18,857 Intercepted by Magic, and here he comes from behind. 816 00:48:18,941 --> 00:48:21,610 A fake. The pass. Here we go. 817 00:48:21,693 --> 00:48:23,278 Five. 818 00:48:23,362 --> 00:48:24,655 Johnson back to Kareem. 819 00:48:25,489 --> 00:48:29,076 So, it has come down to this. Ford sends it to Kareem. 820 00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:30,452 Skyhook up, 821 00:48:30,536 --> 00:48:33,455 and good! Lakers win! Score it! 822 00:48:33,539 --> 00:48:38,460 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar has given the Los Angeles Lakers a victory! 823 00:48:38,544 --> 00:48:41,296 And Magic Johnson is out there celebrating 824 00:48:41,380 --> 00:48:44,091 like they just won the NCAA Championship. 825 00:48:44,174 --> 00:48:46,802 Magic starts running and jumping, and we're all happy and stuff 826 00:48:46,885 --> 00:48:50,931 but we're happy because we won the game. Magic is happy because he could see it. 827 00:48:51,014 --> 00:48:53,600 He saw the making of a championship team. 828 00:48:54,893 --> 00:48:57,229 I get in the locker room, Kareem say, 829 00:48:57,312 --> 00:49:00,107 "Rookie, don't ever do that again." 830 00:49:00,190 --> 00:49:01,817 We got 81 more games. 831 00:49:02,985 --> 00:49:06,655 You know, if we get up to this emotional level 832 00:49:06,738 --> 00:49:11,702 every time we win, you know, we'll be wasted by Christmas time. 833 00:49:11,785 --> 00:49:13,662 He pointed at me, so I pointed at him. 834 00:49:13,745 --> 00:49:16,582 "If you ever hit a shot like that 81 more times, 835 00:49:16,665 --> 00:49:19,585 I'ma jump in your arms 81 more times." 836 00:49:19,668 --> 00:49:22,171 And all of a sudden, we started to win. 837 00:49:22,254 --> 00:49:25,048 Someone that has captured the imagination of the country 838 00:49:25,132 --> 00:49:28,093 is this man, the Magic Man, Mr. Johnson. 839 00:49:28,177 --> 00:49:31,054 He made it possible for me to change my image 840 00:49:31,138 --> 00:49:34,224 in that we started winning. You know, I could start smiling. 841 00:49:36,852 --> 00:49:38,979 He was exactly the player that we needed. 842 00:49:39,646 --> 00:49:42,149 Cool is out. Enthusiasm is in. 843 00:49:42,232 --> 00:49:43,567 And isn't it refreshing? 844 00:49:44,109 --> 00:49:45,402 These guys care for each other. 845 00:49:45,485 --> 00:49:47,446 -We're sort of a live group of guys-- -Homeboy. 846 00:49:47,529 --> 00:49:50,699 He didn't have nothing but a T-shirt on. Now look at him. He's in silk shirts. 847 00:49:50,782 --> 00:49:51,909 Look at him. 848 00:49:52,659 --> 00:49:54,786 When them Lakers started winning, 849 00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:58,123 it united the city of Los Angeles. 850 00:49:58,207 --> 00:50:00,375 So, everybody felt like he was their hero. 851 00:50:00,876 --> 00:50:05,672 I fell in love with Magic Johnson and what he did on the court. 852 00:50:05,756 --> 00:50:09,885 And the charisma he had out with his media and public. 853 00:50:09,968 --> 00:50:13,472 Not only did Black America, not only the young Black kids, Black teenagers 854 00:50:13,931 --> 00:50:16,308 fall in love with Magic Johnson. 855 00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:20,646 But white America was falling in love with Magic Johnson. 856 00:50:21,939 --> 00:50:27,236 Falling in love and looking up to and feeling inspired by a Black male, 857 00:50:27,319 --> 00:50:28,862 you know, was almost unheard of. 858 00:50:30,614 --> 00:50:31,907 The Forum was in Inglewood. 859 00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:34,368 I grew up 14 blocks away and we got no tickets. 860 00:50:34,451 --> 00:50:37,871 We gotta figure out a way to sneak in. We were able to run down a tunnel. 861 00:50:37,955 --> 00:50:39,998 And run past the guards, get into the-- 862 00:50:40,082 --> 00:50:42,835 you know, get into the Forum and just kinda take seats. 863 00:50:42,918 --> 00:50:44,503 Here we go again. 864 00:50:45,546 --> 00:50:47,005 I've never seen nothing like that. 865 00:50:47,089 --> 00:50:50,050 I've never seen anybody 6'9", they were bringing the ball up the floor, 866 00:50:50,133 --> 00:50:53,345 there was control in the tempo, directing the offense. 867 00:50:53,428 --> 00:50:55,681 Nobody played the game like he played it. 868 00:50:55,764 --> 00:50:58,851 He was an oxymoron. He could play any position. 869 00:50:58,934 --> 00:51:00,686 He was a 6'9" point guard, 870 00:51:00,769 --> 00:51:02,729 and there wasn't one around at the time. 871 00:51:02,813 --> 00:51:04,606 Magic's hot and he knows it. 872 00:51:04,690 --> 00:51:06,692 What a pass to Cooper who scores! 873 00:51:06,775 --> 00:51:08,318 A no-look pass. But-- 874 00:51:08,402 --> 00:51:10,404 Earvin's gonna make a fantastic no-look pass. 875 00:51:10,487 --> 00:51:13,240 You know, look this way, ball goes that way, behind the back. 876 00:51:13,323 --> 00:51:15,284 Wraparound the world, score! 877 00:51:15,367 --> 00:51:18,245 I'm no-looking to everybody, right? 878 00:51:18,328 --> 00:51:20,706 Through the legs, behind the back. 879 00:51:20,789 --> 00:51:24,585 Oh, man, and that crowd would just go crazy. 880 00:51:24,668 --> 00:51:27,462 Magic had swagger. Magic was cool. 881 00:51:28,505 --> 00:51:33,594 You know, he played with such joy, enthusiasm. 882 00:51:33,677 --> 00:51:35,345 I mean, he was my favorite player. 883 00:51:35,429 --> 00:51:37,181 The Lakers became my favorite team. 884 00:51:38,307 --> 00:51:39,766 People looked up to him. 885 00:51:39,850 --> 00:51:42,769 People admired him from both sides. 886 00:51:42,853 --> 00:51:44,897 People wanted to be him. 887 00:51:53,363 --> 00:51:57,659 Everybody knows this Magic, the happy guy. The one who smiles. 888 00:51:58,452 --> 00:52:02,247 I think they might think that, you know, nothing ever goes wrong, 889 00:52:02,331 --> 00:52:04,333 or he has no problems. 890 00:52:04,416 --> 00:52:08,045 He just smiles every day and, and everything and-- 891 00:52:09,588 --> 00:52:13,342 But I do have low points, and… 892 00:52:14,009 --> 00:52:17,930 Earvin Johnson is another guy. You know. 893 00:52:18,013 --> 00:52:21,183 Here's Magic over here, and here's Earvin over here. 894 00:52:23,143 --> 00:52:25,354 During the first year I was definitely homesick, 895 00:52:26,313 --> 00:52:29,107 so my phone bill was extremely high. 896 00:52:29,191 --> 00:52:31,318 He would call us all the time, 897 00:52:31,902 --> 00:52:34,696 you know, just about every day or every other day. 898 00:52:36,990 --> 00:52:39,368 I've never been without my family. 899 00:52:39,451 --> 00:52:43,205 My father and my mother always been at my games. 900 00:52:43,288 --> 00:52:47,000 Always still only 15, 20 minutes away from the college 901 00:52:47,084 --> 00:52:49,670 so I could go home and get a home-cooked meal. 902 00:52:49,753 --> 00:52:50,963 I can't do that anymore. 903 00:52:51,046 --> 00:52:54,508 I can't go get a hug from my mother anymore 904 00:52:54,591 --> 00:52:58,595 or just advice from my father face-to-face anymore. 905 00:52:58,679 --> 00:53:02,349 Here is the rookie sensation, Earvin "Magic" Johnson. 906 00:53:02,432 --> 00:53:04,059 Tough when you play away from home. 907 00:53:04,142 --> 00:53:05,227 -Isn't it? -Definitely. 908 00:53:05,310 --> 00:53:07,396 Not hearing the home crowd screaming for you. 909 00:53:08,981 --> 00:53:10,691 The Forum was in Inglewood. 910 00:53:10,774 --> 00:53:13,944 Earvin lived close to Inglewood. He lived sort of an insulated life. 911 00:53:14,528 --> 00:53:17,406 He would go home and go to his little two-bedroom apartment. 912 00:53:17,906 --> 00:53:22,119 I stayed in my apartment all the time because I was scared. 913 00:53:22,202 --> 00:53:26,456 I was still scared of LA because LA was so big. 914 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,584 How's the social life out here? 915 00:53:29,334 --> 00:53:30,919 I mean, I know you work hard, 916 00:53:31,003 --> 00:53:32,379 -Yeah. -but there's playtime too. 917 00:53:32,462 --> 00:53:34,047 Right, there's playtime. 918 00:53:35,299 --> 00:53:38,302 I was very much a guy who was guarded, 919 00:53:38,385 --> 00:53:41,513 and Norm Nixon told me to watch out for people. 920 00:53:42,139 --> 00:53:44,892 Everybody was trying to… 921 00:53:45,642 --> 00:53:49,479 get to know, you know, the athletes, and so I say, "Okay." 922 00:53:49,563 --> 00:53:51,815 You have to watch so much. 923 00:53:51,899 --> 00:53:53,400 Then you have to find out with-- 924 00:53:53,483 --> 00:53:56,570 Are the people real? Do they want you for you? 925 00:53:56,653 --> 00:53:59,448 Can you go out and just forget about ball, you know? 926 00:53:59,531 --> 00:54:01,408 It's really hard. It's really hard. 927 00:54:02,367 --> 00:54:04,119 Good luck to you and to the Los Angeles Lakers. 928 00:54:04,203 --> 00:54:05,454 -Nice being here. -Thanks for being with us. 929 00:54:05,537 --> 00:54:07,706 Mr. Earvin "Magic" Johnson. Thank you, sir. 930 00:54:08,415 --> 00:54:12,461 Here was this fresh young man from Michigan, 931 00:54:13,045 --> 00:54:15,255 and he couldn't trust people. 932 00:54:16,465 --> 00:54:19,092 But that first year in Los Angeles, 933 00:54:19,176 --> 00:54:20,761 Jerry Buss bought the team. 934 00:54:22,554 --> 00:54:25,432 In 1979, Dr. Jerry Buss's dreams 935 00:54:25,516 --> 00:54:30,604 of sports ownership became reality when he spent a record $67.5 million 936 00:54:30,687 --> 00:54:34,983 on the LA Lakers, the LA Kings and their lucrative venue, the LA Forum. 937 00:54:38,695 --> 00:54:43,325 He knew I was a long way from home, and he said, "Hey, young man. 938 00:54:43,408 --> 00:54:46,870 When we get back from training camp, 939 00:54:46,954 --> 00:54:51,375 one Saturday I want you to come, and we gonna stand on the sideline 940 00:54:51,458 --> 00:54:52,793 of a USC game. 941 00:54:58,340 --> 00:55:01,009 Once he-- we went to the first USC football game, 942 00:55:02,052 --> 00:55:04,263 that's when we started really hanging out. 943 00:55:05,138 --> 00:55:08,725 We started having lunch and dinners after the Laker games. 944 00:55:09,810 --> 00:55:11,728 He would say meet him at this restaurant. 945 00:55:11,812 --> 00:55:15,732 So I would go meet him there, and we would break bread together, talk. 946 00:55:15,816 --> 00:55:19,444 And then he just starts saying, "Hey, come on over to the house. 947 00:55:20,070 --> 00:55:24,408 You have the gate pad number. You can come anytime you want. 948 00:55:24,992 --> 00:55:27,786 And so I started going over there all the time. 949 00:55:28,745 --> 00:55:34,960 We played pool at his house for hours, and he sort of filled the void. 950 00:55:35,752 --> 00:55:40,048 I took him aside, and I talked with him. And I said, 951 00:55:40,132 --> 00:55:43,635 "Will you please look out after my baby for me?" 952 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,389 Dr. Buss said, "Mrs. Johnson," he said, "I will take care of him." 953 00:55:47,472 --> 00:55:49,725 I felt more comfortable, you know, 954 00:55:49,808 --> 00:55:56,148 knowing that he had someone that he could talk to, someone that would, 955 00:55:57,024 --> 00:55:59,067 you know, take care of him. 956 00:56:00,652 --> 00:56:03,197 Well, it became extremely close. 957 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,491 He was like Jerry's surrogate son. 958 00:56:07,367 --> 00:56:09,286 He was the apple of his eye, that's for sure. 959 00:56:09,369 --> 00:56:11,205 Johnson from outta nowhere. 960 00:56:11,288 --> 00:56:16,627 The Suns took it easy. They had the layup. And Magic Johnson just refused to give up, 961 00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:19,713 comes back inside, gives it to Kareem. That might do it. 962 00:56:19,796 --> 00:56:21,798 Charisma, that's what the young fella's got. 963 00:56:21,882 --> 00:56:23,675 He's had an excellent rookie season. 964 00:56:23,759 --> 00:56:26,762 The Los Angeles Lakers are the new champions 965 00:56:26,845 --> 00:56:32,684 of the Western Conference as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar pours in 38 points. 966 00:56:32,768 --> 00:56:34,770 Magic Johnson adds 20. 967 00:56:34,853 --> 00:56:36,063 I'm going crazy. 968 00:56:36,146 --> 00:56:39,399 Like, I just won the NCAA championship the year before, 969 00:56:39,483 --> 00:56:44,196 and now I'm actually going to the NBA Finals my rookie season. 970 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,033 It's been eight seasons since the NBA championship has been a part 971 00:56:48,116 --> 00:56:49,660 of the LA sports scene. 972 00:56:49,743 --> 00:56:52,454 The style of the Lakers has always been to make the play-offs 973 00:56:52,538 --> 00:56:55,582 but somehow fold in or before the Finals. 974 00:56:56,834 --> 00:56:58,627 I remember we kept pumping each other up, 975 00:56:58,710 --> 00:57:00,838 "Okay. We gotta do this. We gotta do that." 976 00:57:00,921 --> 00:57:05,259 Well, earlier that week, the voting for the Rookie of the Year came out. 977 00:57:08,512 --> 00:57:11,265 I thought it would be close. It wasn't close. I was shocked. 978 00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:17,312 You know, when I learned that Larry Bird had won by a wide margin, 979 00:57:18,063 --> 00:57:19,064 I didn't like it. 980 00:57:21,191 --> 00:57:23,569 Everybody always said about me my first year, 981 00:57:23,652 --> 00:57:29,575 "He can pass. He can run a team, but Larry Bird is a much better scorer." 982 00:57:29,658 --> 00:57:34,162 I was sitting there saying to myself, "I can score, but that's not my role." 983 00:57:34,246 --> 00:57:36,415 I didn't like hearing that all the time. 984 00:57:38,125 --> 00:57:41,837 And so, you got me fired up going into the NBA Finals. 985 00:57:43,005 --> 00:57:45,674 Philadelphia beat the Boston Celtics four out of five. 986 00:57:45,757 --> 00:57:47,926 Julius Erving carried the load. He averaged 25 a game. 987 00:57:48,010 --> 00:57:50,304 The Doctor will be the man they'll have to go to. 988 00:57:50,387 --> 00:57:53,348 They had a real good team. Dr. J, when they had Chocolate Thunder, 989 00:57:53,432 --> 00:57:54,266 Darryl Dawkins. 990 00:57:54,349 --> 00:57:57,019 Now, I was a Philadelphia 76ers fan. 991 00:57:57,102 --> 00:57:59,313 I'd had a Dr. J poster on my wall. 992 00:57:59,396 --> 00:58:01,815 I was pulling for Philly. I was a Dr. J fan. 993 00:58:01,899 --> 00:58:05,485 We all wanted him to win a championship but not against us. 994 00:58:05,569 --> 00:58:09,865 …underway. Controlled by Dawkins who'll break free. 995 00:58:09,948 --> 00:58:12,701 It was a back-and-forth, up-and-down series. 996 00:58:13,410 --> 00:58:16,038 We knew we had our hands full with Philadelphia, 997 00:58:16,121 --> 00:58:19,124 but the one thing that was going in our favor was nobody 998 00:58:19,208 --> 00:58:20,876 in the league could stop Kareem. 999 00:58:20,959 --> 00:58:22,461 Kareem moving the other way, Dawkins can't-- 1000 00:58:22,544 --> 00:58:25,672 -He was just unstoppable. -I spoke to the team. I told 'em, 1001 00:58:26,340 --> 00:58:28,675 "Listen, I'm gonna be ready to do my job." 1002 00:58:28,759 --> 00:58:32,346 Goes to Magic, lob to Kareem… 1003 00:58:32,429 --> 00:58:36,183 And so, in game five at the Forum, it was nip and tuck. 1004 00:58:36,266 --> 00:58:40,979 A 2-2 series, this is a big game because we can go up 3-2. 1005 00:58:45,609 --> 00:58:46,652 Kareem's hurt. 1006 00:58:46,735 --> 00:58:50,072 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is injured. There's no question about it. 1007 00:58:50,155 --> 00:58:52,366 In the middle of the third quarter, 1008 00:58:52,449 --> 00:58:54,535 Kareem has a sprain in his ankle. 1009 00:58:54,618 --> 00:58:58,080 Boy, they would be in more than serious trouble without him. 1010 00:58:58,163 --> 00:59:01,250 We ended up closing out the game. We're up 3-2 now. 1011 00:59:01,333 --> 00:59:03,502 Please. Give him some room here, please. 1012 00:59:03,585 --> 00:59:05,379 It was catastrophic. 1013 00:59:05,462 --> 00:59:08,048 Kareem was our captain, and he was always there. 1014 00:59:08,131 --> 00:59:10,050 Consummate professional, whether it was, you know, 1015 00:59:10,133 --> 00:59:13,428 had a migraine or not. I think we were all hopeful. 1016 00:59:13,512 --> 00:59:16,431 If there was any way he could play, he would play. We knew that. 1017 00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:20,185 The next morning, we're flying to Philly. 1018 00:59:20,269 --> 00:59:24,106 We get to the airport, and they said, "Man, did you hear the news?" 1019 00:59:24,189 --> 00:59:25,190 I said, "What news?" 1020 00:59:25,274 --> 00:59:29,278 Our doctors let us know that he was injured enough 1021 00:59:29,361 --> 00:59:31,780 that he wasn't gonna play game six. 1022 00:59:32,322 --> 00:59:36,577 We don't have the greatest scorer in the history of the game with us. 1023 00:59:37,494 --> 00:59:40,289 How we gonna beat Philadelphia without Kareem? 1024 00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:44,793 Everybody's sitting there, and you could tell it was a lot of tension. 1025 00:59:44,877 --> 00:59:46,795 And everybody was, like, nervous. 1026 00:59:46,879 --> 00:59:49,089 Nobody was talking, which was strange. 1027 00:59:49,173 --> 00:59:50,716 How we gonna do this without our captain? 1028 00:59:50,799 --> 00:59:52,759 You know, he's not even gonna make the trip. 1029 00:59:52,843 --> 00:59:54,428 This must really be bad. 1030 00:59:55,012 --> 00:59:58,932 They was all frustrated and disappointed that he couldn't play. 1031 01:00:00,058 --> 01:00:02,144 So, I said, "I gotta do something." 1032 01:00:02,978 --> 01:00:04,730 Kareem used to get seat 1A. 1033 01:00:05,314 --> 01:00:07,941 There was only one person who ever sat in 1A. 1034 01:00:09,109 --> 01:00:11,278 Kareem would sit in the first row 1035 01:00:11,361 --> 01:00:14,239 but Magic and I would sit in the second row. 1036 01:00:14,323 --> 01:00:17,701 So, I'm in the second row, and Magic sits in Kareem's seat. 1037 01:00:17,784 --> 01:00:19,995 He just turned around and looked at everybody. 1038 01:00:20,078 --> 01:00:22,122 And goes, 1039 01:00:22,206 --> 01:00:24,958 "Have no fear, Earvin Magic Johnson is here." 1040 01:00:26,752 --> 01:00:28,587 I'm 'bout to show you 1041 01:00:28,670 --> 01:00:32,382 and everybody on this team what type of game I got. 83145

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