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♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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HANNAH CHO: YouTubing life
is definitely a tightrope.
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When you have people
rooting for you,
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it is literally
the best feeling.
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But it is scary
how quickly it can turn.
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(CELL PHONE BUZZES)
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HANNAH: For months,
fans had been waiting
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for an update on Huxley.
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Then Myka posted
on her Instagram
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this bizarre video.
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The setting, the bad lighting.
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So, I apologize
if you guys are curious
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or you're reading
these horrible comments
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and you're not sure
what's going on.
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We have actually
just filmed a video
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that we're gonna share with you
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-what is truly going on.
-(BABY CRYING)
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So it just felt like
something really crazy
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is happening right now.
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I'm sorry,
I get a little bit emotional.
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HANNAH: And she's using
this weird filter
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with diamonds
coming out of her eyes.
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(SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY)
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HANNAH: It was alarming.
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And we'll get you guys
that video out
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as soon as we can.
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HANNAH: Must have been
losing it a little bit.
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She had to have been.
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I really think they had no idea
what was about to happen.
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♪ (THEME MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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♪ A million eyes
Following around ♪
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♪ Do they see anything? ♪
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♪ Do they, do they ♪
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♪ Want to break you
Love to hate you ♪
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♪ Need to take you down ♪
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♪ (THEME MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪
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(TRAFFIC WHIZZING)
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♪ (INTRIGUING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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SOPHIE ROSS:
I would never call myself,
like, a watchdog.
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But that's really what
it boils down to, I feel like.
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Huxley had, at that point,
been in the home
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for two and a half years.
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It's just Huxley, Huxley,
Huxley, Huxley, Huxley
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in every single video
pretty much.
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He was the star of the channel.
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And then suddenly...
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(CHUCKLES) ...you're just
seeing cleaning videos
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and bedroom makeover
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and all of these videos
that did not involve Huxley.
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And her followers
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weren't really there
for the cleaning videos,
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they were there for Huxley.
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♪ (MUSIC TURNS TENSE) ♪
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SOPHIE: It'd be one thing
if she was just phasing Huxley
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-out of her content...
-(MOUSE CLICKS)
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...but she was retroactively
messing with her old content.
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She could have kept ignoring it,
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but at this point
she had to post a video.
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(MOUSE CLICKING)
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(KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING)
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(MOUSE CLICKING)
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(COMPUTER CHIMES)
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-♪ (TENSE MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪
-(KEYS JINGLING)
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HANNAH: That morning,
I saw notifications online
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about the Stauffers,
the Stauffers, the Stauffers.
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And I went to their channel
and watched this video.
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You could just tell
something was different,
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something was off.
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It just felt like
something big was coming.
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(CAMERA RUSTLING)
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-(CAMERA BEEPS)
-♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪
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(MOUSE CLICKS)
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So, this is by far
the hardest video
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-James and I have ever
publicly had to make.
-Yeah.
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I can't say enough
how hard Myka has tried
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throughout this entire journey
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and the amount of effort
she's put into this
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and helping Huxley
as much as she can.
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(MYKA STAUFFER SNIFFLES)
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There's not an ounce of our body
that doesn't love Huxley
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with all of our being.
There wasn't a...
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a minute that I didn't
try our hardest and...
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(MOUSE CLICKS)
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I want to believe
they're having genuine reaction,
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but now they're trying
to paint it like,
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"You guys,
it was so hard on us,"
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like they're trying
to make it seem
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like they're the victims in it.
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Once Huxley came home,
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there was a lot more
special needs
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that we weren't aware of
and that we were not told.
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And we've been trying
to get his needs met.
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(VOICE QUIVERING)
It's really hard 'cause...
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(SNIFFLES)
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...we truly love him.
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MYKA: Numerous
medical professionals
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have felt that he needed more
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and they found somebody
that they felt would be
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ultimately the best fit.
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His now new forever family...
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(MOUSE CLICKS)
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HANNAH: All of this...
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just to tell us
that he's not with them anymore.
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There was a definite shift.
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Suddenly, now it's all about
his privacy and his future.
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The reason why
we can't go into detail
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of what actually transpired
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is because we're truly going
to protect Huxley's privacy
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and not let people know
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what happened and what--
Everything that went on...
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-To make us make this decision.
-This decision.
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MYKA: That's his privacy,
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so we're not gonna
talk about that.
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-That's not--
That's not appropriate.
-(MOUSE CLICKS)
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Yeah, there's just holes
in all of this.
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♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪
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SOPHIE: When I saw that video,
I was kind of just like shocked.
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So at that point,
I decided to tweet about it.
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"Extremely depressed
reading about the influencer
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who secretly rehomed him,
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blocked people asking about him,
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and put out a video
making herself the victim."
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Shortly after
I tweeted about it,
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a journalist
from Business Insider
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picked up the story
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and that's when
it really started to blow up.
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MARGOT HARRIS:
She goes on to say,
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"To be clear, she pretended
he didn't exist for months
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and deleted comments
from concerned followers."
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Sophie has developed
a Twitter following,
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and kind of as a side hobby,
she exposes influencers
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and their bad behavior,
what they're doing.
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She's a good storyteller
and she's very extreme.
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She gets to operate a little bit
differently than journalists
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in that she can kind of just
take her first thought
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and her first reaction
and run to Twitter
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and start the conversation,
you know,
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where writers have to be
a lot more careful
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and fact checking a lot more
and watch their tone.
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So, if Sophie's posting
about something,
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it's gonna get
a lot of traction,
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it's gonna suddenly be
a very fiery debate
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and a lot of people
are gonna care.
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I immediately Slacked my editor
and I was like,
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"We need to write about this."
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I knew that people
were going to be outraged
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and I knew we needed
to write it really fast
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because covering influencers,
it moves really quickly.
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And I knew BuzzFeed
would get on it immediately.
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STEPHANIE MCNEAL: I had never
heard of the Stauffer family.
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I knew that once we and others
started writing about it,
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it was just gonna catapult
this story.
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And ultimately, you know,
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you wanna make sure that you're
not causing more harm
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to the child
at the center of this.
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But at the same time,
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this was a family
that had been so public
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and had gotten so many accolades
for what they had done
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in adopting their child.
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So we decided that
the public interest was there.
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The Stauffers published
the video on May 26th.
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MARGOT:
My article about the Stauffers
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came out on May 27th
at 2:20 p.m.
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STEPHANIE:
My article came out that night.
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In terms of traffic,
this was the biggest story
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that I ever wrote
for BuzzFeed News.
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I had no idea people who
had never heard of the Stauffers
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would be this interested.
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I think it has almost
seven million page views
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at this point.
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-(KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING)
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The story really took off
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once the media
started to pay attention.
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♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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SOPHIE:
It kind of starts going viral.
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And suddenly, the BBC
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and other international
news sites
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are picking up the story.
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The world couldn't believe it.
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(SPEAKING SPANISH)
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(SPEAKING GERMAN)
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(SPEAKING INDONESIAN)
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Most of us watching,
if not all of us watching,
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it just didn't make sense
what they were saying.
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We've been trying
to protect his privacy,
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his rights.
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How can you protect his privacy
when you've done nothing
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but milk his whole
entire existence online?
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Numerous medical professionals
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have felt that he needed
a different fit.
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What kind of
medical professional
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would advise you
to give up your child?
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I-- I question their motives.
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I question if they ever
really loved this child.
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SOPHIE: The story gained
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so much public interest
'cause it was so shocking.
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People just didn't really
genuinely think
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that the emotions
in the video were real.
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(SOBBING) Thank you
from the bottom of our hearts.
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Oh, God, here we go with
the fucking crocodile tears.
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Oh, so authentic.
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The inflammation
that you would normally see
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around the eyes
as the tear ducts
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begin to open up and inflame,
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you don't see
any of that on her face.
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SOPHIE: Myka did receive
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a really, really large amount
of vitriol.
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Do I feel like a failure
as a mom?
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Like, 500 percent.
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Failure as a mom,
failure as a human being.
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You should be ashamed
of yourself.
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Both you
and your fucking husband.
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These people are selfish,
greedy, fucking pigs.
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Yeah, the Internet was pissed.
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If you type Myka Stauffer,
even just start it, M-Y-K,
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it comes up
and it's just pages and pages
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of videos dissecting
what they did,
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breaking them down.
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Hate videos. It's wild.
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This channel, he made 54 videos,
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hours-long content of just
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ranting and raging
about the Stauffers. It's crazy.
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STEPHANIE: So, in my experience
on the Internet,
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-this is how it will evolve.
-♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪
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If you have
a compelling enough reason
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to dislike you
or to be questioning you,
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people will start their own
dedicated communities
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just to investigations.
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♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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STEPHANIE: People just started
going back through
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hours and hours
and hours of footage.
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-(TAPE SQUEALING)
-(DISTORTED CHATTER)
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-We're doing cuddle-fest.
-We got shnuggle puggles
with the Huxy-bear.
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Huxy.
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STEPHANIE: And the Stauffers
were daily vlogging.
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So there was a lot of footage
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about what Huxley's life
in the home was like.
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MYKA: Look how tired he is.
He can't even help it.
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STEPHANIE: How they treated him.
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MYKA: You can't be rocking
in that crib like that.
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Mommy doesn't like that.
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And if you share your life
on the Internet,
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that means that people
can dissect it.
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The way that Myka was responding
made me feel ill.
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MYKA: We are having meltdowns
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'cause we've already
had breakfast.
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-(HUXLEY STAUFFER CRYING)
-MYKA: Excuse me.
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What do you want? You do?
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Okay, we'll get a bite
in a minute.
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You have to wait.
You're gonna sit right here.
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Why would you put a child
in timeout for wanting food?
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You're going to have meltdowns.
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It is your job as a parent
to deescalate.
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♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪
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SOPHIE: One of the videos
that really caught my attention
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that I ended up posting
on Twitter,
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was when she was talking about
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downgrading Huxley's
speech therapy.
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We're gonna go
to a different speech therapist,
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not the one that's...
(LAUGHS) ...500 dollars a month.
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-JAMES STAUFFER:
Oh yeah, tell them.
-But we're gonna go to the one
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that's, um...
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It's like 70 dollars
for 30 minutes.
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Everyone was freaking out
because she's talking
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about how expensive
the therapy is
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and then they're noticing
268
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that she's wearing
this expensive bracelet.
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-Cartier bracelet.
-Cartier watch.
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-Cartier watch.
-YOUTUBER: A Cartier bracelet.
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Sixty-five-hundred-dollar
bracelet on her wrist.
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But you can't afford
500 dollars a month
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for a speech therapist?
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Not 500 dollars for 30 minutes.
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-JAMES: Yeah.
-No, no, no.
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SOPHIE: It was just very,
very interesting
277
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falling into this rabbit hole
of this woman
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who clearly was just
living the life of luxury
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while apparently saying that,
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you know,
she didn't have the resources
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to take care of this human being
that she had adopted.
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(CLICKS TONGUE)
283
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Do I think they adopted Huxley
for the views?
284
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I... I think they adopted Huxley
285
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for multiple reasons,
286
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as these decisions
are always complicated,
287
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but I definitely think getting
more views is a part of it.
288
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♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
289
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People really, really,
really mobilized
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to, like, you know,
hold them accountable.
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People ended up
messaging sponsors.
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Go onto Twitter. Tag the brands.
293
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One by one, brands were dropping
her left and right.
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Pretty much every single brand
295
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that she'd ever partnered with.
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People had reached out
to Fabletics
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and I guess Kate herself
298
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to confirm they were no longer
working with Myka.
299
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Kate Hudson. That is wild.
Is that real Kate Hudson?
300
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"She was terminated. Thank you
for your awareness and care."
301
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"We are not currently working
with Stauffer family.
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Do not have plans to partner
with them in the future."
303
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Even Barbie canceled her.
304
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-(STATIC CRACKLES)
-♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪
305
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Within days
of the story breaking,
306
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she was pretty much dropped
by every brand.
307
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(STATIC CRACKLING)
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SOPHIE: That's it for your
luxury vehicles and vacations
309
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because no brands are going
to work with you anymore.
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♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪
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But then the mob
wasn't just happy
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with the brands dropping them,
they wanted more.
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It's like they were
out for blood.
314
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It was almost like they wanted
some kind of pain
315
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or suffering to feel justice.
316
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♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
317
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And so they kept digging,
and this one sleuther
318
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found this thing that we just
all couldn't believe it.
319
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(KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING)
320
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Back in 2017, Myka had uploaded
a video to YouTube...
321
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(MOUSE CLICKING)
322
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...and it was deleted
very quickly after.
323
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And re-uploaded.
324
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But the new version
was 20 seconds shorter.
325
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-(STATIC CRACKLES)
-(DISTORTED CHATTER PLAYING)
326
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(CHATTER CONTINUES)
327
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And so people were like,
"What was in that 20 seconds?
328
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What is she--
What is she trying to hide?"
329
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(STATIC CRACKLES)
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(CHATTER STOPS)
331
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It almost makes me laugh,
because the Internet,
332
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and especially
the YouTube community,
333
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you cannot do stuff like that.
334
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You think you can fool them
and you cannot.
335
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And if it's ever existed online,
people will find it.
336
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And it turns out
this is what it was.
337
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-The Stauffers are showing...
-(HUXLEY BABBLING)
338
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HANNAH: ...just day-to-day
footage and then...
339
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(JAMES YELPS)
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Hi, Huxley.
What you doing in there, man?
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You reorganizing
the shoe closet for me, eh?
342
00:16:00,626 --> 00:16:01,543
(HUXLEY GIGGLES)
343
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♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC
CONTINUES) ♪
344
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SOPHIE: There are
a lot of things you can do
on the Internet
345
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and the things you
absolutely cannot do
346
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are what some would consider
child abuse.
347
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♪ (EERIE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
348
00:16:19,311 --> 00:16:22,648
SOPHIE: And that's what people
were alleging was going on here.
349
00:16:22,731 --> 00:16:25,943
The Stauffers were allegedly
duct taping his arms.
350
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Duct tape.
351
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Thick silver tape
around this boy's hand.
352
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To get him
to stop sucking his thumb
353
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and using that
as a preventative measure.
354
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I would never
in a bajillion years
355
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duct tape my son's skin.
356
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Having tape on your child,
duct tape in particular,
357
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what parent thinks that's okay?
358
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Duct tape is something
you use to, like, kidnap people.
359
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Once people saw
the duct tape on Huxley,
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everyone just started picturing
the absolute worst.
361
00:16:59,018 --> 00:17:01,270
Wondering,
"Hey, are they telling the truth
362
00:17:01,353 --> 00:17:05,566
about him getting placed
in a new, loving home?"
363
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They just completely lost
all trust
364
00:17:07,860 --> 00:17:09,611
from that point forward.
365
00:17:09,653 --> 00:17:10,904
(STATIC CRACKLES)
366
00:17:10,946 --> 00:17:12,906
Where is Huxley?
367
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They keep saying
that they're adamant
368
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that he is not missing,
369
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but then where is he?
370
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This is criminal
and they should be arrested.
371
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People started throwing around
the most insane,
372
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unfounded conspiracy theories.
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This child could be
in complete danger.
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She could have sold him.
375
00:17:30,966 --> 00:17:32,468
She could have buried him
in the backyard
376
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after getting too mad
at him one time.
377
00:17:34,344 --> 00:17:36,096
Maybe Huxley was just, like,
passed along
378
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on a Facebook group,
which is considered trafficking.
379
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They've even told their children
380
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that he was going to kill them
in their sleep.
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There really isn't
any rules here.
382
00:17:49,068 --> 00:17:52,946
And, yeah, everyone
was very along for the ride.
383
00:17:52,988 --> 00:17:55,783
Where's Huxley?
Where'd you put the baby?
384
00:17:55,824 --> 00:17:57,993
Where is Huxley Stauffer, Myka?
385
00:17:58,035 --> 00:18:00,662
Where is Huxley?
Tell the police where he's at.
386
00:18:01,622 --> 00:18:03,832
(KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING)
387
00:18:04,708 --> 00:18:06,502
♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
388
00:18:06,543 --> 00:18:09,421
(MOUSE CLICKING)
389
00:18:14,968 --> 00:18:16,970
-(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
-(PHONE RINGING)
390
00:18:17,012 --> 00:18:19,348
REPRESENTATIVE:
So, we received phone calls
391
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and multiple emails
392
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from people
that were making allegations
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-of possible, um, child abuse.
-♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪
394
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♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
395
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REPRESENTATIVE: It was unusual.
396
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It makes us scratch our head
397
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when more than one
or two or three comes in.
398
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Of course, like,
"Wait, what's going on?"
399
00:18:34,404 --> 00:18:36,073
DIRECTOR:
This is the police report.
400
00:18:37,699 --> 00:18:38,700
This right here?
401
00:18:42,996 --> 00:18:44,706
Yeah, I've seen this actually.
402
00:18:44,748 --> 00:18:46,792
HANNAH: Delaware County
Sheriff's Office.
403
00:18:46,875 --> 00:18:49,294
Some redacted stuff in here.
404
00:18:50,504 --> 00:18:52,714
The blacked-out name
is Myka, right?
405
00:18:52,798 --> 00:18:56,218
And it looks like they opened
the case on June 1st
406
00:18:56,260 --> 00:19:00,889
which is four or five days
after, um, the video went up.
407
00:19:02,683 --> 00:19:04,893
"I advised the Stauffers
that our main concerns
408
00:19:04,935 --> 00:19:06,436
from the allegations
we have received
409
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,063
are the safety
and wellbeing of..."
410
00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:09,523
And I'm assuming it says Huxley.
411
00:19:09,565 --> 00:19:11,275
"...along with the allegations
of abuse
412
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and human trafficking of him."
413
00:19:14,194 --> 00:19:15,154
Whoa.
414
00:19:15,237 --> 00:19:17,447
Myka stated they were
getting threats every day
415
00:19:17,531 --> 00:19:19,992
and people are threatening
to slit her kids' throat
416
00:19:20,075 --> 00:19:22,077
because they think
they did something wrong.
417
00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,454
That is intense.
418
00:19:24,538 --> 00:19:26,290
HANNAH:
"They have had 35 death threats.
419
00:19:26,373 --> 00:19:27,749
They will be moving
from their home
420
00:19:27,791 --> 00:19:28,834
in Powell, Ohio."
421
00:19:29,793 --> 00:19:31,753
SOPHIE: "After conducting
wellbeing checks
422
00:19:31,795 --> 00:19:33,922
on Myka Stauffer's
biological children,
423
00:19:34,006 --> 00:19:35,549
it was determined
that there were no signs
424
00:19:35,591 --> 00:19:37,426
of physical abuse
against any of the children.
425
00:19:37,509 --> 00:19:41,430
As far as the talk of possible
human trafficking against them,
426
00:19:41,513 --> 00:19:45,100
it was determined
that the process of his adoption
427
00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:47,603
is being conducted legally." Oh,
they're talking about Huxley.
428
00:19:47,686 --> 00:19:48,896
Crazy.
429
00:19:48,937 --> 00:19:51,899
Definitely humanizes them more.
430
00:19:51,940 --> 00:19:55,777
Definitely gives, like,
the other side of the story.
431
00:19:56,653 --> 00:19:58,739
I can't say I'm surprised,
honestly.
432
00:19:58,780 --> 00:20:00,782
Um, people get death threats
433
00:20:00,824 --> 00:20:05,871
for things way more innocuous
than this.
434
00:20:05,954 --> 00:20:08,123
I mean, at this point,
I think a lot of the time,
435
00:20:08,165 --> 00:20:10,125
influencers are just
sort of advised to get over it,
436
00:20:10,167 --> 00:20:12,461
unless something really seems
to pose a credible threat.
437
00:20:12,502 --> 00:20:15,088
It's now treated as, like,
a part of the job.
438
00:20:15,130 --> 00:20:16,340
I mean, journalists get it.
439
00:20:16,423 --> 00:20:19,718
I've gotten some crazy messages
in my day, for sure. (CHUCKLES)
440
00:20:19,801 --> 00:20:23,472
DIRECTOR:
441
00:20:23,555 --> 00:20:25,140
Mm-hmm.
442
00:20:25,182 --> 00:20:27,601
There are plenty of-- plenty
of death threats like that.
443
00:20:28,268 --> 00:20:31,355
♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
444
00:20:40,572 --> 00:20:42,074
Sickening.
445
00:20:42,157 --> 00:20:45,911
It's unfathomable that people
would treat anyone this way,
446
00:20:45,994 --> 00:20:48,455
people who are
ostensibly concerned
447
00:20:48,497 --> 00:20:50,999
about a child's best interest,
and then turning around
448
00:20:51,041 --> 00:20:53,627
and making death threats
against this family.
449
00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:55,212
That's unconscionable.
450
00:20:57,673 --> 00:20:59,967
I'm the acting president and CEO
451
00:21:00,008 --> 00:21:01,843
at the National Council
For Adoption.
452
00:21:01,927 --> 00:21:03,929
We just call ourselves NCFA.
453
00:21:04,763 --> 00:21:06,515
In May of 2020,
454
00:21:06,556 --> 00:21:09,518
we started getting
a lot of media inquiries.
455
00:21:09,601 --> 00:21:11,687
The story had generated
a lot of headlines.
456
00:21:11,770 --> 00:21:15,315
It was of concern to many people
in the community
457
00:21:15,357 --> 00:21:17,526
and we were being asked
to weigh in
458
00:21:17,567 --> 00:21:20,112
and to issue
a particular statement on this.
459
00:21:21,697 --> 00:21:23,031
A lot of people
were really upset
460
00:21:23,115 --> 00:21:25,325
about the decision because
461
00:21:25,367 --> 00:21:28,161
any time there is a disruption
or a dissolution,
462
00:21:28,203 --> 00:21:29,204
that is a failure.
463
00:21:29,788 --> 00:21:31,415
This was a failure.
464
00:21:31,498 --> 00:21:34,376
It represents
that there was a breakdown.
465
00:21:34,418 --> 00:21:39,214
Where I would want to caution us
is we don't know all the details
466
00:21:39,256 --> 00:21:42,050
in this particular
family's story.
467
00:21:42,092 --> 00:21:43,802
And they very well
may have been making
468
00:21:43,885 --> 00:21:46,305
a decision that's
in this child's best interest.
469
00:21:47,681 --> 00:21:49,057
Dissolutions happen,
470
00:21:49,099 --> 00:21:51,226
and it's important that
we recognize that it happens
471
00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:53,687
because there are gonna
be circumstances
472
00:21:53,729 --> 00:21:56,732
where the best way
to meet a child's needs
473
00:21:56,773 --> 00:21:57,983
is in a different setting,
474
00:21:58,066 --> 00:22:00,986
perhaps a really
therapeutic family setting
475
00:22:01,069 --> 00:22:04,906
to provide ongoing support
in a way that the prior family
476
00:22:04,948 --> 00:22:06,575
was unable to.
477
00:22:06,616 --> 00:22:09,578
♪ (SOMBER MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪
478
00:22:11,121 --> 00:22:12,873
ASHLEY: I understand
the negative opinions
479
00:22:12,914 --> 00:22:17,586
because I used to think
that kind of same way.
480
00:22:17,627 --> 00:22:20,922
"How selfish.
Adoption's a lifelong decision.
481
00:22:21,006 --> 00:22:23,467
Being a parent
is a lifelong decision.
482
00:22:23,550 --> 00:22:25,427
It was a little bit hard
483
00:22:25,469 --> 00:22:28,430
and then you decide
to throw in the towel."
484
00:22:28,472 --> 00:22:31,183
-♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪
-The only reason
I know any better
485
00:22:31,266 --> 00:22:33,226
is because it happened to us.
486
00:22:35,354 --> 00:22:38,940
♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
487
00:22:39,024 --> 00:22:43,528
ASHLEY: In 2014, my husband
and I decided to adopt a child.
488
00:22:44,821 --> 00:22:47,574
Like the Stauffers,
we decided to do
489
00:22:47,616 --> 00:22:50,410
an international
special needs adoption.
490
00:22:50,452 --> 00:22:52,371
And our motivation
behind it was that
491
00:22:52,454 --> 00:22:55,540
we wanted to give a child a home
that actually needed a home,
492
00:22:55,624 --> 00:22:58,210
and not a child
that people are waiting for.
493
00:22:58,293 --> 00:22:59,461
And we wanted a child
494
00:22:59,544 --> 00:23:00,962
that probably wasn't gonna
get adopted,
495
00:23:01,004 --> 00:23:02,756
or not get adopted soon.
496
00:23:04,466 --> 00:23:06,093
I don't even know
which trips these are.
497
00:23:06,134 --> 00:23:08,804
-There's so many of them.
-Yeah, your memory is bad.
498
00:23:08,887 --> 00:23:11,973
This is...
Oh, actually, now I'm not sure.
499
00:23:13,392 --> 00:23:15,310
In the beginning,
when we started the process,
500
00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:16,812
you do get
some medical information.
501
00:23:16,895 --> 00:23:21,441
You get as much as they have,
a few-page document about it.
502
00:23:21,483 --> 00:23:23,819
Our daughter, she was four
and a half years old.
503
00:23:23,860 --> 00:23:25,821
She weighed 15 pounds.
504
00:23:25,904 --> 00:23:29,157
She couldn't walk.
She couldn't talk.
505
00:23:29,199 --> 00:23:31,535
Um, she couldn't sit up
on her own.
506
00:23:31,618 --> 00:23:34,496
She had a stomach issue
that we didn't know about.
507
00:23:34,579 --> 00:23:37,666
-ASHLEY'S HUSBAND:
There's a tummy ache one.
-Oh, yes. Yeah, it is.
508
00:23:37,749 --> 00:23:39,918
Anything with frowny faces
means tummy ache.
509
00:23:40,001 --> 00:23:41,795
ASHLEY: Yeah, she--
she always had a stomachache,
510
00:23:41,837 --> 00:23:43,672
all of her early pictures.
511
00:23:43,713 --> 00:23:47,300
She draws the tummy ache
and a frowny face, usually.
512
00:23:48,552 --> 00:23:50,095
At the very beginning,
513
00:23:50,178 --> 00:23:52,139
she just screamed all day,
every day...
514
00:23:52,180 --> 00:23:54,015
(CHUCKLES) ...like,
just screamed.
515
00:23:54,057 --> 00:23:56,268
Eventually, the tantrums
got less and less and less.
516
00:23:56,351 --> 00:23:58,562
But it was quite a long journey
from there.
517
00:23:59,604 --> 00:24:01,982
This is what she came in.
518
00:24:02,023 --> 00:24:04,151
ASHLEY'S HUSBAND: Yeah.
The outfit she was wearing
519
00:24:04,192 --> 00:24:05,277
when we picked her up.
520
00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:07,571
Yeah. She was four,
521
00:24:07,654 --> 00:24:11,575
wearing this little number.
522
00:24:12,534 --> 00:24:14,369
CHILD: Wait,
you still have that?
523
00:24:14,411 --> 00:24:15,370
ASHLEY: Yeah.
524
00:24:15,454 --> 00:24:16,705
CHILD: I think it still fits me.
525
00:24:16,746 --> 00:24:18,039
ASHLEY: Mm, I doubt it.
526
00:24:18,123 --> 00:24:20,083
It's been in your closet
this whole time.
527
00:24:25,922 --> 00:24:28,383
I think we went into
the second time very confident,
528
00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:31,219
thinking, "Okay, we've done
the hardest that it can be."
529
00:24:31,303 --> 00:24:33,763
You know, we've done screaming
all day long.
530
00:24:33,847 --> 00:24:37,058
And even though it was hard,
it had been so rewarding
531
00:24:37,142 --> 00:24:39,895
and it was just something
we really wanted to do again.
532
00:24:39,936 --> 00:24:42,063
(BIRDS CHIRPING)
533
00:24:45,734 --> 00:24:47,319
♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪
534
00:24:47,903 --> 00:24:50,322
♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
535
00:24:50,405 --> 00:24:53,033
ASHLEY: The second time
we adopted, we met him.
536
00:24:53,074 --> 00:24:55,577
He was in general very calm.
537
00:24:55,660 --> 00:24:58,455
It seemed like,
"Okay, this is a good fit."
538
00:24:59,414 --> 00:25:03,752
After we signed the paperwork,
we headed home.
539
00:25:03,835 --> 00:25:07,589
And within two days,
we started to notice that
540
00:25:07,672 --> 00:25:10,091
things were not
what we thought they were.
541
00:25:10,133 --> 00:25:11,218
♪ (MUSIC TURNS TENSE) ♪
542
00:25:11,259 --> 00:25:13,261
ASHLEY: I don't feel like
it's appropriate
543
00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:17,432
to share a lot
of the really hard things,
544
00:25:17,474 --> 00:25:21,311
but it just went downhill
from there.
545
00:25:22,521 --> 00:25:25,190
What made me realize
that it was the end
546
00:25:25,273 --> 00:25:28,193
and it needed to be the end,
547
00:25:28,276 --> 00:25:31,446
I wasn't functioning anymore,
I couldn't remember anything.
548
00:25:31,488 --> 00:25:33,281
(INHALES)
549
00:25:33,365 --> 00:25:36,243
I couldn't put
a sentence together sometimes.
550
00:25:36,284 --> 00:25:39,287
I was just scared
of what I might do
551
00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:41,456
if I was pushed any further.
552
00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:44,417
(VOICE QUIVERING)
I started to, like,
553
00:25:44,459 --> 00:25:46,545
have thoughts of harming him.
554
00:25:47,837 --> 00:25:52,884
And I know now, obviously,
I would never harm a child...
555
00:25:54,261 --> 00:25:57,514
because I would do
literally anything else not to,
556
00:25:57,597 --> 00:26:01,476
including find a better place
for them.
557
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,519
♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
558
00:26:02,602 --> 00:26:04,229
CHILD:
One, two, three, four, five.
559
00:26:04,312 --> 00:26:06,773
-One, two, three, four, five,
seven, eight, nine, ten.
-(CHUCKLES)
560
00:26:07,232 --> 00:26:08,400
(CAT PURRS)
561
00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:12,988
ASHLEY: I'm sure
the Stauffer family
562
00:26:13,071 --> 00:26:15,615
had different challenges
than what we've experienced.
563
00:26:15,657 --> 00:26:19,452
But I do know that there's more
to the story than just,
564
00:26:19,494 --> 00:26:21,997
you know, what you can show
in a few videos.
565
00:26:22,038 --> 00:26:24,165
Myka, she kinda said
the same thing.
566
00:26:24,207 --> 00:26:25,667
JAMES: You're not having
a good day today.
567
00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:27,335
We never tell you guys
the truth.
568
00:26:27,377 --> 00:26:29,462
And that's why you don't
see Huxley a lot in the vlogs.
569
00:26:29,504 --> 00:26:30,547
(HUXLEY FUSSING)
570
00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:32,591
He's probably having a meltdown.
571
00:26:33,341 --> 00:26:35,260
-Are you done?
-(MOUSE CLICKS)
572
00:26:35,343 --> 00:26:38,555
ASHLEY: They made some choices
that I wouldn't have made
573
00:26:39,222 --> 00:26:41,349
in terms of, like, privacy.
574
00:26:41,391 --> 00:26:44,686
But people were saying,
"Oh, it didn't seem that bad.
575
00:26:44,769 --> 00:26:47,272
I could have handled that.
Why can't they?"
576
00:26:47,355 --> 00:26:49,858
The thing that's interesting
about them
577
00:26:49,941 --> 00:26:54,029
is that people say both things.
578
00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:58,825
They say, "How dare you post
his tantrums on YouTube?"
579
00:26:58,867 --> 00:27:01,578
But also, "From what we've seen,
it's not that bad."
580
00:27:02,787 --> 00:27:04,289
So it's like, okay,
so you want them
581
00:27:04,372 --> 00:27:06,041
to show everything
582
00:27:06,124 --> 00:27:07,459
so that you can judge
583
00:27:07,542 --> 00:27:09,586
whether or not
it was bad enough. (CHUCKLES)
584
00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:12,005
But also, if they do that,
that's bad.
585
00:27:12,047 --> 00:27:14,466
There's really no winning
in that situation.
586
00:27:16,718 --> 00:27:20,055
We'll never have a full picture
of what was going on there.
587
00:27:20,096 --> 00:27:21,556
No one's ever gonna know, right?
588
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,308
You don't know
until you've lived it.
589
00:27:23,391 --> 00:27:25,393
♪ (INTRIGUING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
590
00:27:25,435 --> 00:27:27,562
ASHLEY: People were
just accusing them of being
591
00:27:27,646 --> 00:27:29,147
the worst kind of people.
592
00:27:29,230 --> 00:27:32,734
So I posted a Reddit thread.
593
00:27:32,776 --> 00:27:35,904
-(KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING)
-(MOUSE CLICKING)
594
00:27:41,701 --> 00:27:43,370
ASHLEY: "The title
makes it sound flippant,
595
00:27:43,411 --> 00:27:46,164
but I'm low-key terrified
to say anything about it.
596
00:27:46,247 --> 00:27:47,415
The story is big right now
597
00:27:47,499 --> 00:27:49,334
about a YouTube couple
who 'rehomed'
598
00:27:49,417 --> 00:27:52,087
their internationally
adopted child who had autism.
599
00:27:52,128 --> 00:27:54,798
Last year,
I had to do exactly that.
600
00:27:54,881 --> 00:27:57,008
Please, no death threats."
601
00:27:59,427 --> 00:28:02,263
♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪
602
00:28:02,347 --> 00:28:03,890
Probably the biggest issue
603
00:28:03,932 --> 00:28:06,559
with the fact
that these situations do happen
604
00:28:06,601 --> 00:28:08,520
is the fact that people
don't talk about them.
605
00:28:08,603 --> 00:28:09,646
♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
606
00:28:09,729 --> 00:28:13,233
ASHLEY: People do think that
everything's gonna be
607
00:28:13,274 --> 00:28:15,110
rainbows and butterflies
608
00:28:15,151 --> 00:28:16,986
and their child's
gonna be perfect,
609
00:28:17,070 --> 00:28:19,531
and all they need is love
and a little bit
610
00:28:19,614 --> 00:28:21,533
of medical attention,
and then...
611
00:28:22,784 --> 00:28:25,036
that will erase
all kinds of trauma.
612
00:28:27,288 --> 00:28:31,376
I did feel like someone needs
to share from the other side
613
00:28:31,459 --> 00:28:34,295
because it's not always true.
614
00:28:34,337 --> 00:28:36,506
And it hasn't been
my experience.
615
00:28:43,138 --> 00:28:45,014
♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪
616
00:28:45,098 --> 00:28:47,976
-(BIRDS CHIRPING)
-♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
617
00:28:52,731 --> 00:28:54,858
HANNAH: What's so interesting
and fascinating
618
00:28:54,941 --> 00:28:56,860
about the Stauffer story
in particular
619
00:28:56,943 --> 00:28:59,487
is that we all have things
that trigger us.
620
00:29:00,989 --> 00:29:02,031
For me personally,
621
00:29:02,115 --> 00:29:04,784
they were gonna shine
such a positive light
622
00:29:04,826 --> 00:29:08,788
on adoption and maybe heal
some of my own wounds.
623
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:11,249
As an adoptee,
624
00:29:11,332 --> 00:29:14,502
you're literally
starting your life out
625
00:29:14,544 --> 00:29:16,254
being thrown away, to an extent.
626
00:29:16,337 --> 00:29:19,674
And I know we have
to say positive things like,
627
00:29:19,758 --> 00:29:21,050
"They wanted a better life
for you,"
628
00:29:21,134 --> 00:29:22,343
your biological parents.
629
00:29:22,385 --> 00:29:24,679
"They couldn't provide for you.
Maybe it's a war-torn country.
630
00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:27,474
Maybe you had medical stuff
that they couldn't pay for,
631
00:29:27,515 --> 00:29:28,892
so they were hoping
for the best."
632
00:29:28,975 --> 00:29:33,980
But you start your life knowing
that you were not good enough,
633
00:29:34,022 --> 00:29:36,065
not loved enough,
not worthy enough.
634
00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:37,192
You were already a burden.
635
00:29:41,446 --> 00:29:45,533
So then when you see an adoptee
and you're rooting for them,
636
00:29:45,617 --> 00:29:48,536
like, that they're gonna have
a family that loves them
637
00:29:48,578 --> 00:29:50,038
and kind of makes up
for that loss
638
00:29:50,121 --> 00:29:51,456
they've already experienced,
639
00:29:51,539 --> 00:29:55,043
and then the message
is that it was too hard
640
00:29:55,126 --> 00:29:58,463
or it just wasn't the right
"fit for us."
641
00:29:58,546 --> 00:30:01,174
Like, it's not a shoe, okay?
I'm sorry it didn't fit
642
00:30:01,216 --> 00:30:03,051
and then you just can
return it to the store
643
00:30:03,134 --> 00:30:04,761
and just not think about it
anymore.
644
00:30:04,844 --> 00:30:06,387
So it kind of affirms that,
645
00:30:06,429 --> 00:30:08,348
um, we weren't wanted
to start with
646
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:09,682
and then we still aren't wanted
647
00:30:09,724 --> 00:30:11,768
even after someone
tells us we were.
648
00:30:12,477 --> 00:30:13,853
I think that's what's hard.
649
00:30:14,354 --> 00:30:16,064
(BIRDS CHIRPING)
650
00:30:25,114 --> 00:30:28,451
♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
651
00:30:29,452 --> 00:30:30,954
RYAN HANLON:
We ought to recognize
652
00:30:31,037 --> 00:30:33,498
the difficulty here,
the complexity here.
653
00:30:33,581 --> 00:30:36,292
The challenge for any parent
to make a decision that
654
00:30:36,376 --> 00:30:38,753
they're not gonna stay together
as a family.
655
00:30:43,633 --> 00:30:47,303
Unfortunately, instead of trying
to respond compassionately,
656
00:30:48,638 --> 00:30:51,641
people chose to respond
out of anger or hatred.
657
00:30:52,684 --> 00:30:56,104
Inaccurate
and very defaming remarks
658
00:30:56,187 --> 00:30:58,106
that can destroy people's lives.
659
00:30:58,147 --> 00:30:59,941
And impacts
not just these parents
660
00:31:00,024 --> 00:31:02,068
but the children as well.
661
00:31:02,110 --> 00:31:04,237
That's something
that's gonna be following
662
00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:07,532
this family and these children
throughout their lives.
663
00:31:07,615 --> 00:31:11,119
-(STATIC CRACKLES)
-♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪
664
00:31:13,580 --> 00:31:15,540
-Can you say, "Mama"?
-CHILD 1: Mama.
665
00:31:15,623 --> 00:31:18,084
-Can you say...
-(OVERLAPPING CHATTER)
666
00:31:18,126 --> 00:31:19,627
(HAROLD EARLS GROWLS, LAUGHS)
667
00:31:19,669 --> 00:31:21,296
-(CHILD 2 SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY)
-Oh.
668
00:31:21,379 --> 00:31:23,131
RACHEL EARLS: Babe,
what are we gonna do?
669
00:31:23,172 --> 00:31:24,299
(HAROLD LAUGHING)
670
00:31:24,382 --> 00:31:26,801
Social media has created
671
00:31:26,843 --> 00:31:28,469
these beautiful moments
in our life
672
00:31:28,511 --> 00:31:31,014
and has connected us
to our followers, right?
673
00:31:31,097 --> 00:31:34,100
Our Earls fam.
And it's been an amazing thing.
674
00:31:34,142 --> 00:31:36,644
It also has
a terrible side to it,
675
00:31:36,728 --> 00:31:38,104
and that is the cyberbullying.
676
00:31:38,146 --> 00:31:39,981
♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
677
00:31:40,023 --> 00:31:42,442
CHANNON ROSE:
It's a little blue snail!
678
00:31:42,483 --> 00:31:44,152
Something that's really scary
679
00:31:44,235 --> 00:31:46,571
that family channels
have to deal with
680
00:31:46,654 --> 00:31:50,033
are people that will just
literally do everything
681
00:31:50,116 --> 00:31:53,202
in their power
to try to hurt you.
682
00:31:53,286 --> 00:31:55,413
I remember one night,
in the middle of the night,
683
00:31:55,496 --> 00:31:58,207
I got a knock on the door
and it was the police.
684
00:31:58,291 --> 00:32:00,418
-OFFICER: An anonymous person
called us...
-TRAVIS DEAN: Okay.
685
00:32:00,501 --> 00:32:02,337
OFFICER: ...and said
that somebody was
on Facebook Live,
686
00:32:02,420 --> 00:32:04,339
-saying they were gonna...
-CHANNON: The police are like,
687
00:32:04,380 --> 00:32:06,215
"We've gotten a call
saying that you're performing
688
00:32:06,299 --> 00:32:07,467
sex acts with your kids,
689
00:32:07,508 --> 00:32:09,052
we need to check on them.
Are they okay?"
690
00:32:09,135 --> 00:32:10,803
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
691
00:32:10,845 --> 00:32:13,681
CHANNON: I had to wake up Snow
when she was just a baby
692
00:32:13,723 --> 00:32:15,850
and bring her downstairs
to show the police
693
00:32:15,892 --> 00:32:19,771
that she was totally fine
and not being abused or injured.
694
00:32:20,772 --> 00:32:23,024
A lot of times when the police
get these calls,
695
00:32:23,107 --> 00:32:25,318
maybe they think
that it's a neighbor calling
696
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,195
or a family member or a friend.
697
00:32:27,236 --> 00:32:28,696
They don't realize
that these are people
698
00:32:28,738 --> 00:32:31,032
we've never met before
in our lives.
699
00:32:31,115 --> 00:32:32,700
Now, every time
I get a knock on the door,
700
00:32:32,742 --> 00:32:35,161
I'm scared and paranoid
it's gonna be the police
701
00:32:35,203 --> 00:32:37,538
trying to, like,
take my kids away or, like...
702
00:32:37,580 --> 00:32:40,792
who knows what stories
someone called to tell them.
703
00:32:40,875 --> 00:32:43,461
-...the back yard.
-Is this thing on? (LAUGHS)
704
00:32:43,544 --> 00:32:44,796
HAROLD: We're-- We're humans.
705
00:32:44,879 --> 00:32:46,714
We're not just, like,
actors on a screen.
706
00:32:46,756 --> 00:32:48,841
And so I think
that's part of the problem,
707
00:32:48,883 --> 00:32:50,551
is they see it as entertainment,
708
00:32:50,635 --> 00:32:53,888
and the real human
often gets left behind
709
00:32:53,930 --> 00:32:57,058
in the drama and the strife
that's caused with it.
710
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:59,686
(KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING)
711
00:32:59,727 --> 00:33:01,354
SOPHIE: When the story blew up,
712
00:33:01,396 --> 00:33:04,732
the names and the faces
of all of the children
713
00:33:04,816 --> 00:33:06,484
were blasted everywhere.
714
00:33:06,567 --> 00:33:07,610
♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪
715
00:33:07,694 --> 00:33:09,904
And it's really...
716
00:33:09,946 --> 00:33:13,199
sad and tragic
to think about the effect that
717
00:33:13,241 --> 00:33:16,411
this had to have had
on the rest of the children.
718
00:33:18,162 --> 00:33:22,041
DIRECTOR:
719
00:33:23,668 --> 00:33:25,503
Yeah, no.
I don't really-- (LAUGHS)
720
00:33:25,586 --> 00:33:28,881
I think that the responsibility
lies on, you know,
721
00:33:28,923 --> 00:33:33,219
the parents being
shitty human beings, honestly.
722
00:33:33,261 --> 00:33:35,263
♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
723
00:33:35,346 --> 00:33:36,723
STEPHANIE:
There's a lot of darkness
724
00:33:36,764 --> 00:33:39,100
in family YouTuber communities
725
00:33:39,142 --> 00:33:40,935
and the response to them.
726
00:33:41,686 --> 00:33:44,105
In this case with the Stauffers,
727
00:33:44,147 --> 00:33:46,232
people definitely
took advantage of this
728
00:33:46,274 --> 00:33:47,775
for their own YouTube channels.
729
00:33:47,817 --> 00:33:49,819
-(MOUSE CLICKS)
-I started talking about it
730
00:33:49,902 --> 00:33:51,070
and the channel
kind of exploded.
731
00:33:51,112 --> 00:33:52,739
Five thousand likes
and I'll do a part three.
732
00:33:52,780 --> 00:33:55,950
Myka made sure
to exploit her child's
733
00:33:55,992 --> 00:33:57,952
entire adoption journey.
734
00:33:58,036 --> 00:34:00,079
Don't forget
to subscribe down below
735
00:34:00,121 --> 00:34:02,582
and give this video a thumbs up.
736
00:34:02,623 --> 00:34:03,624
(MOUSE CLICKS)
737
00:34:03,708 --> 00:34:05,293
♪ (MUSIC TURNS TENSE) ♪
738
00:34:05,376 --> 00:34:08,296
SOPHIE: There are now thousands,
maybe even millions of families
739
00:34:08,379 --> 00:34:10,006
just like the Stauffers,
740
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,800
vloggers and YouTubers that are
741
00:34:12,842 --> 00:34:14,927
putting their children's faces
out there.
742
00:34:14,969 --> 00:34:16,554
I'm pregnant.
743
00:34:16,637 --> 00:34:17,972
YOUTUBER 1: We got a daughter!
744
00:34:18,014 --> 00:34:19,182
BOTH: Aw.
745
00:34:19,265 --> 00:34:21,434
-YOUTUBER 2:
Let's go, everyone.
-(OVERLAPPING CHATTER)
746
00:34:21,476 --> 00:34:23,728
SOPHIE: The business
of family vlogging
747
00:34:23,811 --> 00:34:25,021
and mommy vloggers
748
00:34:25,104 --> 00:34:27,023
is still booming
749
00:34:27,106 --> 00:34:30,109
and probably will be
for a long time.
750
00:34:30,151 --> 00:34:32,153
Give this video a big thumbs up.
751
00:34:32,195 --> 00:34:34,322
(COMPUTER CHIMING)
752
00:34:34,363 --> 00:34:36,115
SOPHIE: Obviously,
there is a demand
753
00:34:36,157 --> 00:34:38,785
for this type of content.
754
00:34:38,826 --> 00:34:40,161
-(OVERLAPPING CHATTER)
-YOUTUBER 1: Yes! Yes!
755
00:34:40,203 --> 00:34:41,329
YOUTUBER 2: Of course he will.
756
00:34:41,370 --> 00:34:42,705
-Come on. Let's go.
-YOUTUBER 1: Higher. Let's go.
757
00:34:42,789 --> 00:34:43,915
YOUTUBER 2:
Let's go, let's go...
758
00:34:43,998 --> 00:34:46,167
I think there are
a lot of ethical issues
759
00:34:46,250 --> 00:34:48,836
with monetizing
a child's entire childhood,
760
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,922
especially if you don't protect
their privacy,
761
00:34:51,005 --> 00:34:51,964
and you're doing things
762
00:34:52,006 --> 00:34:53,633
like sharing their
embarrassing moments,
763
00:34:53,674 --> 00:34:57,595
sharing their trauma,
all of that kind of stuff.
764
00:34:57,678 --> 00:34:59,180
♪ (INTRIGUING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
765
00:34:59,222 --> 00:35:01,682
STEPHANIE:
I think the shame is that
766
00:35:01,724 --> 00:35:06,187
instead of channeling
this moral outrage and saying,
767
00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:07,855
"You know what?
Maybe this is the time
768
00:35:07,897 --> 00:35:11,359
to seriously take a look
at family YouTubers,"
769
00:35:11,442 --> 00:35:13,611
people just yelled about
the Stauffers on the Internet
770
00:35:13,694 --> 00:35:15,321
and sent death threats.
771
00:35:15,363 --> 00:35:19,200
Which-- Okay, but that
didn't help any other children.
772
00:35:19,283 --> 00:35:21,536
Let's put some laws into place.
773
00:35:21,619 --> 00:35:23,079
How can we make this safe
for kids?
774
00:35:23,162 --> 00:35:26,040
While there are laws
for child actors for instance,
775
00:35:26,082 --> 00:35:28,209
there aren't really laws
in place for the children
776
00:35:28,292 --> 00:35:30,586
of influencers, mommy vloggers.
777
00:35:32,171 --> 00:35:33,089
They are working.
778
00:35:33,172 --> 00:35:35,216
They are making money
for adults.
779
00:35:35,299 --> 00:35:37,718
(IMITATES DRUMROLL) Sponsored
by Welch's Fruit Snacks, baby!
780
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,803
FAMILY: Yeah!
781
00:35:38,886 --> 00:35:41,222
YOUTUBER 1:
We got this epic new Oculus.
782
00:35:41,264 --> 00:35:43,391
YOUTUBER 2: This video
is sponsored by Oculus.
783
00:35:43,432 --> 00:35:44,851
YOUTUBER 3: Parents,
you can find out more
784
00:35:44,892 --> 00:35:46,144
about today's Play-Doh sets
785
00:35:46,227 --> 00:35:48,729
by visiting the link
in the description box
of this video.
786
00:35:49,814 --> 00:35:51,023
♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪
787
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:54,318
♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
788
00:35:57,822 --> 00:35:59,699
(KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING)
789
00:36:01,284 --> 00:36:05,872
SOPHIE: About a month after
the announcement about Huxley,
790
00:36:05,913 --> 00:36:07,874
Myka tried to do damage control
791
00:36:07,915 --> 00:36:11,752
by posting a lengthy statement
on Instagram.
792
00:36:11,836 --> 00:36:14,422
I'll pull it up because
it's her last Instagram post,
793
00:36:14,505 --> 00:36:15,590
like, to this day.
794
00:36:16,382 --> 00:36:18,009
Uh, do you want me to read it?
795
00:36:18,092 --> 00:36:20,595
She goes
"I want to first off apologize
796
00:36:20,636 --> 00:36:23,264
for the uproar
and take full responsibility
797
00:36:23,347 --> 00:36:25,433
for all of the hurt
that I have caused.
798
00:36:25,516 --> 00:36:27,476
I'm sorry for letting down
so many women
799
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,937
that looked up to me
as a mother."
800
00:36:30,021 --> 00:36:31,606
HANNAH:
"I wanted to help so bad,
801
00:36:31,647 --> 00:36:34,150
I was willing to bring home
any child that needed me.
802
00:36:34,233 --> 00:36:36,110
For this, I was naive
foolish, and arrogant."
803
00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:38,863
I also want to mention
that moms need a safe place
804
00:36:38,946 --> 00:36:40,823
to ask for help
when they are struggling.
805
00:36:40,907 --> 00:36:41,949
No questions asked.
806
00:36:42,033 --> 00:36:43,951
Praying that Huxley
only has the best future
807
00:36:44,035 --> 00:36:45,786
in the entire world."
808
00:36:45,828 --> 00:36:47,580
This whole thing, this apology
809
00:36:47,622 --> 00:36:50,499
was the last that anyone
ever heard from Myka.
810
00:36:52,084 --> 00:36:54,295
(MOUSE CLICKING)
811
00:36:54,337 --> 00:36:55,504
(STATIC CRACKLES)
812
00:36:56,380 --> 00:37:01,135
♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪
813
00:37:01,219 --> 00:37:02,762
Even to this day,
814
00:37:02,803 --> 00:37:04,722
people are still kind of
calling for their heads
815
00:37:04,805 --> 00:37:06,641
even though
they left the Internet.
816
00:37:06,682 --> 00:37:08,142
I mean, James
didn't leave the Internet,
817
00:37:08,184 --> 00:37:09,352
but Myka left the Internet.
818
00:37:09,435 --> 00:37:11,145
♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
819
00:37:11,229 --> 00:37:12,396
(MOUSE CLICKS)
820
00:37:14,857 --> 00:37:17,276
STEPHANIE: Stauffer Garage
has been able to survive
821
00:37:17,318 --> 00:37:21,364
because it has nothing
to do with the family.
822
00:37:21,447 --> 00:37:25,159
But also, people blamed Myka
a lot more than James,
823
00:37:25,201 --> 00:37:28,746
which isn't surprising
if you've been a woman.
824
00:37:28,829 --> 00:37:30,790
(LAUGHS) Um...
825
00:37:30,831 --> 00:37:33,668
Of course people are gonna blame
the mom more, basically saying
826
00:37:33,751 --> 00:37:36,337
he was the good guy
and she was the bad guy,
827
00:37:36,379 --> 00:37:38,172
which there was no evidence for.
828
00:37:38,923 --> 00:37:39,840
It's just heartbreaking.
829
00:37:39,882 --> 00:37:42,093
It's heartbreaking,
the whole situation.
830
00:37:42,176 --> 00:37:44,095
DIRECTOR: I'm just curious,
when it all unfolded,
831
00:37:44,178 --> 00:37:46,847
did you reach out to Myka
or had you been in-- No.
832
00:37:46,931 --> 00:37:49,850
No, I never reached out to her
and I feel really bad.
833
00:37:49,934 --> 00:37:51,394
I feel like
I probably should have.
834
00:37:51,477 --> 00:37:52,979
Um, but I was scared.
835
00:37:55,481 --> 00:37:57,942
DIRECTOR:
Did you follow what went down
with the Stauffers?
836
00:37:58,025 --> 00:37:59,360
Mm-hmm.
837
00:37:59,443 --> 00:38:02,113
DIRECTOR: I mean,
maybe you can tell me
a little about that story.
838
00:38:02,196 --> 00:38:03,364
-Just be careful.
-Yeah.
839
00:38:03,406 --> 00:38:04,448
Be very careful.
840
00:38:05,241 --> 00:38:06,534
CHANNON: People are scared.
841
00:38:06,617 --> 00:38:08,869
Because if you are
even associated
842
00:38:08,911 --> 00:38:10,371
with her in the slightest,
843
00:38:10,454 --> 00:38:12,206
then you will also get canceled.
844
00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:14,959
Have you guys reached out
to the Stauffers?
845
00:38:15,042 --> 00:38:17,545
DIRECTOR:
846
00:38:17,628 --> 00:38:21,340
And they're not partaking?
847
00:38:21,841 --> 00:38:24,218
DIRECTOR:
848
00:38:25,761 --> 00:38:29,181
Exactly. There's nothing
they can say and they know that.
849
00:38:29,223 --> 00:38:30,391
♪ (INTRIGUING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
850
00:38:30,433 --> 00:38:33,436
STEPHANIE: I mean, it sounds
kinda ridiculous, but...
851
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,439
she was truly canceled.
852
00:38:36,522 --> 00:38:38,274
I don't think
she can come back from this.
853
00:38:38,357 --> 00:38:40,192
It feels awful to get canceled
854
00:38:40,234 --> 00:38:44,447
and having all the people
that once loved you, hate you.
855
00:38:44,530 --> 00:38:45,906
I don't know why people do this.
856
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:47,533
I don't know
if it makes them feel better
857
00:38:47,575 --> 00:38:50,036
to tear other people down.
858
00:38:50,077 --> 00:38:53,706
The cyber bullies, they win
if we stop being vulnerable,
859
00:38:53,748 --> 00:38:56,083
-if we stop sharing our life.
-Yes.
860
00:38:56,167 --> 00:38:58,252
HAROLD:
The whole point is to impact
other people positively.
861
00:38:58,294 --> 00:38:59,587
And if we're like,
862
00:38:59,628 --> 00:39:01,213
"We're not comfortable
doing this anymore,
863
00:39:01,255 --> 00:39:03,424
we're gonna stop,
or put our guards up,"
864
00:39:03,507 --> 00:39:05,384
well, congratulations.
That's exactly what they wanted.
865
00:39:06,469 --> 00:39:08,637
HANNAH: I look back now
and I feel like I'm sorry
866
00:39:08,721 --> 00:39:11,599
for all the pain that their
whole family went through
867
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:12,725
and that they experienced.
868
00:39:12,767 --> 00:39:14,935
I know that they're real people
who go to sleep at night
869
00:39:14,977 --> 00:39:17,897
and they have feelings
just like the rest of us,
870
00:39:17,938 --> 00:39:19,607
but sometimes
we don't know our boundaries
871
00:39:19,690 --> 00:39:22,610
or we don't know
where the lines are
872
00:39:22,693 --> 00:39:23,861
if people don't cross them.
873
00:39:23,944 --> 00:39:26,030
And I feel like
they kind of did that for us.
874
00:39:27,406 --> 00:39:29,575
SOPHIE: This is kind of
the first generation, really,
875
00:39:29,617 --> 00:39:31,410
that's living on social media
in this way.
876
00:39:31,452 --> 00:39:33,245
-(CHILD FUSSING)
-Thanks for watching, guys.
877
00:39:33,287 --> 00:39:34,413
CHILD: No.
878
00:39:34,455 --> 00:39:36,665
HANNAH: When I was a kid,
the Internet didn't exist.
879
00:39:36,749 --> 00:39:39,126
So when I decided
to start sharing myself
880
00:39:39,168 --> 00:39:40,920
and create
my own online presence,
881
00:39:40,961 --> 00:39:42,213
it was very much my decision.
882
00:39:42,296 --> 00:39:45,132
And now all the children
don't have that.
883
00:39:45,174 --> 00:39:47,218
And before they're even able
to decide
884
00:39:47,301 --> 00:39:49,053
how much they want
the world to know them,
885
00:39:49,136 --> 00:39:51,555
they already have
this huge Internet thumbprint.
886
00:39:57,186 --> 00:39:58,604
STEPHANIE:
I think the next decade
887
00:39:58,646 --> 00:40:03,109
is going to be extremely
illuminating for everyone
888
00:40:03,150 --> 00:40:07,655
when these kids
start coming out and saying,
889
00:40:08,572 --> 00:40:10,533
"I was a vlogger kid.
I didn't like it,"
890
00:40:10,616 --> 00:40:12,118
or "I did like it."
891
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:15,329
We simply don't know
how these kids are gonna feel.
892
00:40:15,413 --> 00:40:18,374
♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
893
00:40:30,636 --> 00:40:33,681
HANNAH: We all want
a nice little bow at the end,
894
00:40:33,764 --> 00:40:36,767
whether it's a happy ending
or just closure in general.
895
00:40:38,185 --> 00:40:42,106
I think what's so nuanced
about this story in particular
896
00:40:42,189 --> 00:40:44,316
is that there are still
a lot of question marks.
897
00:40:46,819 --> 00:40:48,863
SOPHIE: "On June 9th, 2020,
898
00:40:48,904 --> 00:40:50,990
Huxley was in the process
899
00:40:51,031 --> 00:40:53,826
of being adopted
by a new family.
900
00:40:53,868 --> 00:40:56,328
"Deputy Woods contacted
his adoptive family
901
00:40:56,370 --> 00:40:58,539
to conduct a well-being check.
902
00:40:58,622 --> 00:41:00,749
Huxley's adoptive mother
was singing a song to him
903
00:41:00,833 --> 00:41:03,377
as he was sitting on her lap,
smiling.
904
00:41:03,461 --> 00:41:06,714
Huxley appeared to be very happy
and well taken care of.
905
00:41:06,755 --> 00:41:09,049
At this time, the investigation
will be closed out
906
00:41:09,091 --> 00:41:11,719
with no further follow-up
from our office."
907
00:41:15,347 --> 00:41:17,391
STEPHANIE: It seems like
he is in a good environment,
908
00:41:17,433 --> 00:41:20,644
so I think that
is a net positive, I suppose.
909
00:41:22,938 --> 00:41:25,024
HANNAH: Huxley's still
out there somewhere
910
00:41:25,065 --> 00:41:27,985
and we may never get the closure
we're looking for.
911
00:41:30,779 --> 00:41:32,865
Honestly,
I kind of like it that way.
912
00:41:34,241 --> 00:41:36,952
Because now,
I can create my own conclusion.
913
00:41:38,204 --> 00:41:40,539
I hope he can grow up
and have a better life
914
00:41:40,581 --> 00:41:42,875
than we could have
ever imagined for him.
915
00:41:46,921 --> 00:41:49,215
And the fact that
we don't have to know
916
00:41:49,256 --> 00:41:50,799
kind of gives me a little peace.
917
00:41:56,013 --> 00:41:58,098
♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪
918
00:42:31,340 --> 00:42:32,716
♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪
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