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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,096 --> 00:00:17,100 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 2 00:00:22,522 --> 00:00:26,609 HANNAH CHO: YouTubing life is definitely a tightrope. 3 00:00:26,651 --> 00:00:27,944 When you have people rooting for you, 4 00:00:28,028 --> 00:00:30,321 it is literally the best feeling. 5 00:00:31,781 --> 00:00:34,743 But it is scary how quickly it can turn. 6 00:00:34,784 --> 00:00:35,869 (CELL PHONE BUZZES) 7 00:00:42,083 --> 00:00:44,586 HANNAH: For months, fans had been waiting 8 00:00:44,627 --> 00:00:46,337 for an update on Huxley. 9 00:00:47,922 --> 00:00:49,966 Then Myka posted on her Instagram 10 00:00:50,050 --> 00:00:52,469 this bizarre video. 11 00:00:52,510 --> 00:00:54,512 The setting, the bad lighting. 12 00:00:56,014 --> 00:00:58,183 So, I apologize if you guys are curious 13 00:00:58,266 --> 00:00:59,809 or you're reading these horrible comments 14 00:00:59,851 --> 00:01:01,561 and you're not sure what's going on. 15 00:01:01,644 --> 00:01:03,146 We have actually just filmed a video 16 00:01:03,188 --> 00:01:05,315 that we're gonna share with you 17 00:01:05,398 --> 00:01:08,359 -what is truly going on. -(BABY CRYING) 18 00:01:08,443 --> 00:01:11,488 So it just felt like something really crazy 19 00:01:11,571 --> 00:01:13,198 is happening right now. 20 00:01:14,449 --> 00:01:16,826 I'm sorry, I get a little bit emotional. 21 00:01:16,910 --> 00:01:19,496 HANNAH: And she's using this weird filter 22 00:01:19,579 --> 00:01:21,581 with diamonds coming out of her eyes. 23 00:01:21,664 --> 00:01:23,666 (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) 24 00:01:23,750 --> 00:01:25,585 HANNAH: It was alarming. 25 00:01:25,668 --> 00:01:27,045 And we'll get you guys that video out 26 00:01:27,128 --> 00:01:28,421 as soon as we can. 27 00:01:30,131 --> 00:01:31,925 HANNAH: Must have been losing it a little bit. 28 00:01:32,884 --> 00:01:34,010 She had to have been. 29 00:01:35,762 --> 00:01:39,099 I really think they had no idea what was about to happen. 30 00:01:40,225 --> 00:01:41,184 ♪ (THEME MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 31 00:01:41,267 --> 00:01:47,899 ♪ A million eyes Following around ♪ 32 00:01:49,275 --> 00:01:54,781 ♪ Do they see anything? ♪ 33 00:01:56,449 --> 00:02:02,956 ♪ Do they, do they ♪ 34 00:02:03,039 --> 00:02:09,170 ♪ Want to break you Love to hate you ♪ 35 00:02:09,212 --> 00:02:15,844 ♪ Need to take you down ♪ 36 00:02:17,971 --> 00:02:20,598 ♪ (THEME MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 37 00:02:21,307 --> 00:02:22,725 (TRAFFIC WHIZZING) 38 00:02:22,767 --> 00:02:25,270 ♪ (INTRIGUING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 39 00:02:26,688 --> 00:02:29,065 SOPHIE ROSS: I would never call myself, like, a watchdog. 40 00:02:31,484 --> 00:02:34,362 But that's really what it boils down to, I feel like. 41 00:02:39,325 --> 00:02:42,287 Huxley had, at that point, been in the home 42 00:02:42,370 --> 00:02:43,746 for two and a half years. 43 00:02:43,788 --> 00:02:46,749 It's just Huxley, Huxley, Huxley, Huxley, Huxley 44 00:02:46,833 --> 00:02:48,835 in every single video pretty much. 45 00:02:48,918 --> 00:02:50,295 He was the star of the channel. 46 00:02:51,462 --> 00:02:53,298 And then suddenly... 47 00:02:53,381 --> 00:02:55,133 (CHUCKLES) ...you're just seeing cleaning videos 48 00:02:55,216 --> 00:02:56,593 and bedroom makeover 49 00:02:56,634 --> 00:03:01,431 and all of these videos that did not involve Huxley. 50 00:03:01,472 --> 00:03:02,849 And her followers 51 00:03:02,932 --> 00:03:05,560 weren't really there for the cleaning videos, 52 00:03:05,602 --> 00:03:07,228 they were there for Huxley. 53 00:03:07,270 --> 00:03:08,897 ♪ (MUSIC TURNS TENSE) ♪ 54 00:03:08,938 --> 00:03:10,940 SOPHIE: It'd be one thing if she was just phasing Huxley 55 00:03:10,982 --> 00:03:12,483 -out of her content... -(MOUSE CLICKS) 56 00:03:14,861 --> 00:03:20,200 ...but she was retroactively messing with her old content. 57 00:03:20,909 --> 00:03:22,118 She could have kept ignoring it, 58 00:03:22,202 --> 00:03:24,704 but at this point she had to post a video. 59 00:03:24,787 --> 00:03:26,289 (MOUSE CLICKING) 60 00:03:27,457 --> 00:03:30,043 (KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING) 61 00:03:30,126 --> 00:03:33,796 (MOUSE CLICKING) 62 00:03:33,838 --> 00:03:34,964 (COMPUTER CHIMES) 63 00:03:35,048 --> 00:03:36,925 -♪ (TENSE MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ -(KEYS JINGLING) 64 00:03:41,429 --> 00:03:44,515 HANNAH: That morning, I saw notifications online 65 00:03:44,599 --> 00:03:48,102 about the Stauffers, the Stauffers, the Stauffers. 66 00:03:48,144 --> 00:03:52,607 And I went to their channel and watched this video. 67 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:55,985 You could just tell something was different, 68 00:03:56,069 --> 00:03:56,986 something was off. 69 00:03:57,070 --> 00:04:00,990 It just felt like something big was coming. 70 00:04:01,658 --> 00:04:03,868 (CAMERA RUSTLING) 71 00:04:07,622 --> 00:04:09,082 -(CAMERA BEEPS) -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 72 00:04:09,165 --> 00:04:10,500 (MOUSE CLICKS) 73 00:04:10,583 --> 00:04:13,503 So, this is by far the hardest video 74 00:04:13,586 --> 00:04:17,006 -James and I have ever publicly had to make. -Yeah. 75 00:04:17,048 --> 00:04:20,510 I can't say enough how hard Myka has tried 76 00:04:20,593 --> 00:04:22,178 throughout this entire journey 77 00:04:22,262 --> 00:04:25,848 and the amount of effort she's put into this 78 00:04:25,932 --> 00:04:28,059 and helping Huxley as much as she can. 79 00:04:29,686 --> 00:04:31,938 (MYKA STAUFFER SNIFFLES) 80 00:04:32,021 --> 00:04:34,857 There's not an ounce of our body that doesn't love Huxley 81 00:04:34,899 --> 00:04:37,026 with all of our being. There wasn't a... 82 00:04:37,068 --> 00:04:40,029 a minute that I didn't try our hardest and... 83 00:04:41,072 --> 00:04:42,573 (MOUSE CLICKS) 84 00:04:42,657 --> 00:04:45,702 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 85 00:04:45,785 --> 00:04:48,830 I want to believe they're having genuine reaction, 86 00:04:48,871 --> 00:04:50,581 but now they're trying to paint it like, 87 00:04:50,665 --> 00:04:52,041 "You guys, it was so hard on us," 88 00:04:52,083 --> 00:04:53,209 like they're trying to make it seem 89 00:04:53,251 --> 00:04:55,169 like they're the victims in it. 90 00:04:56,337 --> 00:04:57,880 Once Huxley came home, 91 00:04:57,922 --> 00:04:59,382 there was a lot more special needs 92 00:04:59,465 --> 00:05:02,719 that we weren't aware of and that we were not told. 93 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,514 And we've been trying to get his needs met. 94 00:05:06,556 --> 00:05:08,099 (VOICE QUIVERING) It's really hard 'cause... 95 00:05:08,433 --> 00:05:09,642 (SNIFFLES) 96 00:05:11,436 --> 00:05:12,812 ...we truly love him. 97 00:05:15,148 --> 00:05:16,816 MYKA: Numerous medical professionals 98 00:05:16,899 --> 00:05:18,693 have felt that he needed more 99 00:05:18,735 --> 00:05:21,195 and they found somebody that they felt would be 100 00:05:21,863 --> 00:05:24,490 ultimately the best fit. 101 00:05:25,700 --> 00:05:28,369 His now new forever family... 102 00:05:28,411 --> 00:05:29,495 (MOUSE CLICKS) 103 00:05:33,207 --> 00:05:34,292 HANNAH: All of this... 104 00:05:35,376 --> 00:05:38,212 just to tell us that he's not with them anymore. 105 00:05:39,088 --> 00:05:41,632 There was a definite shift. 106 00:05:41,716 --> 00:05:44,469 Suddenly, now it's all about his privacy and his future. 107 00:05:45,970 --> 00:05:48,931 The reason why we can't go into detail 108 00:05:49,015 --> 00:05:51,184 of what actually transpired 109 00:05:51,267 --> 00:05:54,771 is because we're truly going to protect Huxley's privacy 110 00:05:54,854 --> 00:05:56,481 and not let people know 111 00:05:56,564 --> 00:05:59,442 what happened and what-- Everything that went on... 112 00:05:59,484 --> 00:06:01,694 -To make us make this decision. -This decision. 113 00:06:02,737 --> 00:06:04,113 MYKA: That's his privacy, 114 00:06:04,197 --> 00:06:06,199 so we're not gonna talk about that. 115 00:06:06,282 --> 00:06:08,701 -That's not-- That's not appropriate. -(MOUSE CLICKS) 116 00:06:09,702 --> 00:06:11,704 Yeah, there's just holes in all of this. 117 00:06:13,039 --> 00:06:16,459 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 118 00:06:16,501 --> 00:06:19,629 SOPHIE: When I saw that video, I was kind of just like shocked. 119 00:06:21,798 --> 00:06:24,801 So at that point, I decided to tweet about it. 120 00:06:24,842 --> 00:06:26,969 "Extremely depressed reading about the influencer 121 00:06:27,011 --> 00:06:29,097 who secretly rehomed him, 122 00:06:29,138 --> 00:06:31,099 blocked people asking about him, 123 00:06:31,140 --> 00:06:34,143 and put out a video making herself the victim." 124 00:06:34,227 --> 00:06:35,812 Shortly after I tweeted about it, 125 00:06:35,853 --> 00:06:37,980 a journalist from Business Insider 126 00:06:38,022 --> 00:06:39,649 picked up the story 127 00:06:39,732 --> 00:06:42,485 and that's when it really started to blow up. 128 00:06:42,568 --> 00:06:43,694 MARGOT HARRIS: She goes on to say, 129 00:06:43,778 --> 00:06:45,696 "To be clear, she pretended he didn't exist for months 130 00:06:45,780 --> 00:06:47,698 and deleted comments from concerned followers." 131 00:06:48,699 --> 00:06:50,493 Sophie has developed a Twitter following, 132 00:06:50,576 --> 00:06:52,995 and kind of as a side hobby, she exposes influencers 133 00:06:53,079 --> 00:06:55,540 and their bad behavior, what they're doing. 134 00:06:55,623 --> 00:06:59,293 She's a good storyteller and she's very extreme. 135 00:06:59,335 --> 00:07:01,671 She gets to operate a little bit differently than journalists 136 00:07:01,712 --> 00:07:03,506 in that she can kind of just take her first thought 137 00:07:03,548 --> 00:07:05,675 and her first reaction and run to Twitter 138 00:07:05,758 --> 00:07:07,301 and start the conversation, you know, 139 00:07:07,343 --> 00:07:09,554 where writers have to be a lot more careful 140 00:07:09,637 --> 00:07:11,848 and fact checking a lot more and watch their tone. 141 00:07:11,889 --> 00:07:13,808 So, if Sophie's posting about something, 142 00:07:13,850 --> 00:07:15,268 it's gonna get a lot of traction, 143 00:07:15,351 --> 00:07:17,395 it's gonna suddenly be a very fiery debate 144 00:07:17,478 --> 00:07:18,980 and a lot of people are gonna care. 145 00:07:20,148 --> 00:07:22,567 I immediately Slacked my editor and I was like, 146 00:07:22,650 --> 00:07:24,569 "We need to write about this." 147 00:07:25,570 --> 00:07:27,697 I knew that people were going to be outraged 148 00:07:27,738 --> 00:07:29,532 and I knew we needed to write it really fast 149 00:07:29,574 --> 00:07:32,285 because covering influencers, it moves really quickly. 150 00:07:32,368 --> 00:07:35,079 And I knew BuzzFeed would get on it immediately. 151 00:07:36,873 --> 00:07:39,542 STEPHANIE MCNEAL: I had never heard of the Stauffer family. 152 00:07:39,625 --> 00:07:43,212 I knew that once we and others started writing about it, 153 00:07:43,254 --> 00:07:45,840 it was just gonna catapult this story. 154 00:07:45,882 --> 00:07:48,217 And ultimately, you know, 155 00:07:48,301 --> 00:07:51,429 you wanna make sure that you're not causing more harm 156 00:07:51,512 --> 00:07:53,556 to the child at the center of this. 157 00:07:54,307 --> 00:07:56,058 But at the same time, 158 00:07:56,142 --> 00:07:58,728 this was a family that had been so public 159 00:07:58,811 --> 00:08:02,023 and had gotten so many accolades for what they had done 160 00:08:02,064 --> 00:08:04,400 in adopting their child. 161 00:08:04,442 --> 00:08:09,739 So we decided that the public interest was there. 162 00:08:09,780 --> 00:08:12,158 The Stauffers published the video on May 26th. 163 00:08:12,241 --> 00:08:13,576 MARGOT: My article about the Stauffers 164 00:08:13,659 --> 00:08:16,871 came out on May 27th at 2:20 p.m. 165 00:08:16,913 --> 00:08:19,707 STEPHANIE: My article came out that night. 166 00:08:19,749 --> 00:08:21,459 In terms of traffic, this was the biggest story 167 00:08:21,542 --> 00:08:24,337 that I ever wrote for BuzzFeed News. 168 00:08:24,420 --> 00:08:28,257 I had no idea people who had never heard of the Stauffers 169 00:08:28,341 --> 00:08:30,051 would be this interested. 170 00:08:30,092 --> 00:08:31,802 I think it has almost seven million page views 171 00:08:31,886 --> 00:08:32,929 at this point. 172 00:08:33,012 --> 00:08:35,640 -(KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING) -(COMPUTER CHIMES) 173 00:08:35,723 --> 00:08:37,099 The story really took off 174 00:08:37,141 --> 00:08:39,644 once the media started to pay attention. 175 00:08:39,727 --> 00:08:40,895 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 176 00:08:40,937 --> 00:08:42,355 SOPHIE: It kind of starts going viral. 177 00:08:42,438 --> 00:08:44,106 And suddenly, the BBC 178 00:08:44,148 --> 00:08:46,484 and other international news sites 179 00:08:46,567 --> 00:08:48,277 are picking up the story. 180 00:08:48,319 --> 00:08:49,946 The world couldn't believe it. 181 00:08:50,029 --> 00:08:52,073 (SPEAKING SPANISH) 182 00:08:52,114 --> 00:08:55,451 (SPEAKING GERMAN) 183 00:08:55,493 --> 00:08:58,079 (SPEAKING INDONESIAN) 184 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,790 Most of us watching, if not all of us watching, 185 00:09:00,831 --> 00:09:03,417 it just didn't make sense what they were saying. 186 00:09:03,459 --> 00:09:06,379 We've been trying to protect his privacy, 187 00:09:06,462 --> 00:09:07,630 his rights. 188 00:09:07,672 --> 00:09:09,590 How can you protect his privacy when you've done nothing 189 00:09:09,632 --> 00:09:12,301 but milk his whole entire existence online? 190 00:09:12,343 --> 00:09:13,970 Numerous medical professionals 191 00:09:14,053 --> 00:09:16,138 have felt that he needed a different fit. 192 00:09:16,222 --> 00:09:18,391 What kind of medical professional 193 00:09:18,474 --> 00:09:20,935 would advise you to give up your child? 194 00:09:20,977 --> 00:09:23,145 I-- I question their motives. 195 00:09:23,187 --> 00:09:25,398 I question if they ever really loved this child. 196 00:09:25,481 --> 00:09:27,066 SOPHIE: The story gained 197 00:09:27,149 --> 00:09:30,778 so much public interest 'cause it was so shocking. 198 00:09:30,820 --> 00:09:33,698 People just didn't really genuinely think 199 00:09:33,781 --> 00:09:36,659 that the emotions in the video were real. 200 00:09:36,701 --> 00:09:38,494 (SOBBING) Thank you from the bottom of our hearts. 201 00:09:38,578 --> 00:09:41,581 Oh, God, here we go with the fucking crocodile tears. 202 00:09:41,664 --> 00:09:42,832 Oh, so authentic. 203 00:09:42,873 --> 00:09:44,667 The inflammation that you would normally see 204 00:09:44,709 --> 00:09:46,294 around the eyes as the tear ducts 205 00:09:46,335 --> 00:09:48,462 begin to open up and inflame, 206 00:09:48,504 --> 00:09:50,423 you don't see any of that on her face. 207 00:09:50,506 --> 00:09:52,675 SOPHIE: Myka did receive 208 00:09:52,717 --> 00:09:56,220 a really, really large amount of vitriol. 209 00:09:57,430 --> 00:09:59,140 Do I feel like a failure as a mom? 210 00:09:59,181 --> 00:10:00,808 Like, 500 percent. 211 00:10:00,850 --> 00:10:03,561 Failure as a mom, failure as a human being. 212 00:10:03,644 --> 00:10:05,521 You should be ashamed of yourself. 213 00:10:05,563 --> 00:10:07,440 Both you and your fucking husband. 214 00:10:07,523 --> 00:10:11,319 These people are selfish, greedy, fucking pigs. 215 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,196 Yeah, the Internet was pissed. 216 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,908 If you type Myka Stauffer, even just start it, M-Y-K, 217 00:10:17,992 --> 00:10:21,495 it comes up and it's just pages and pages 218 00:10:21,537 --> 00:10:24,498 of videos dissecting what they did, 219 00:10:24,540 --> 00:10:26,042 breaking them down. 220 00:10:26,083 --> 00:10:28,377 Hate videos. It's wild. 221 00:10:28,419 --> 00:10:31,839 This channel, he made 54 videos, 222 00:10:31,881 --> 00:10:35,176 hours-long content of just 223 00:10:35,217 --> 00:10:39,096 ranting and raging about the Stauffers. It's crazy. 224 00:10:41,641 --> 00:10:43,559 STEPHANIE: So, in my experience on the Internet, 225 00:10:43,601 --> 00:10:45,728 -this is how it will evolve. -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 226 00:10:45,811 --> 00:10:47,938 If you have a compelling enough reason 227 00:10:48,022 --> 00:10:50,941 to dislike you or to be questioning you, 228 00:10:51,025 --> 00:10:54,153 people will start their own dedicated communities 229 00:10:54,236 --> 00:10:57,073 just to investigations. 230 00:10:57,156 --> 00:10:58,783 ♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 231 00:10:58,866 --> 00:11:01,077 STEPHANIE: People just started going back through 232 00:11:01,118 --> 00:11:02,912 hours and hours and hours of footage. 233 00:11:02,995 --> 00:11:05,206 -(TAPE SQUEALING) -(DISTORTED CHATTER) 234 00:11:05,247 --> 00:11:08,417 -We're doing cuddle-fest. -We got shnuggle puggles with the Huxy-bear. 235 00:11:08,459 --> 00:11:09,543 Huxy. 236 00:11:09,585 --> 00:11:11,962 STEPHANIE: And the Stauffers were daily vlogging. 237 00:11:12,046 --> 00:11:14,924 So there was a lot of footage 238 00:11:14,965 --> 00:11:17,593 about what Huxley's life in the home was like. 239 00:11:17,635 --> 00:11:20,054 MYKA: Look how tired he is. He can't even help it. 240 00:11:20,096 --> 00:11:21,931 STEPHANIE: How they treated him. 241 00:11:22,014 --> 00:11:24,100 MYKA: You can't be rocking in that crib like that. 242 00:11:24,183 --> 00:11:25,768 Mommy doesn't like that. 243 00:11:25,810 --> 00:11:28,229 And if you share your life on the Internet, 244 00:11:28,270 --> 00:11:30,439 that means that people can dissect it. 245 00:11:30,523 --> 00:11:34,151 The way that Myka was responding made me feel ill. 246 00:11:34,944 --> 00:11:36,237 MYKA: We are having meltdowns 247 00:11:36,278 --> 00:11:38,364 'cause we've already had breakfast. 248 00:11:38,447 --> 00:11:39,907 -(HUXLEY STAUFFER CRYING) -MYKA: Excuse me. 249 00:11:39,949 --> 00:11:41,575 What do you want? You do? 250 00:11:41,617 --> 00:11:43,119 Okay, we'll get a bite in a minute. 251 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,413 You have to wait. You're gonna sit right here. 252 00:11:45,454 --> 00:11:48,207 Why would you put a child in timeout for wanting food? 253 00:11:48,290 --> 00:11:50,126 You're going to have meltdowns. 254 00:11:50,167 --> 00:11:53,087 It is your job as a parent to deescalate. 255 00:11:53,129 --> 00:11:54,296 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 256 00:11:54,380 --> 00:11:56,257 SOPHIE: One of the videos that really caught my attention 257 00:11:56,298 --> 00:11:57,967 that I ended up posting on Twitter, 258 00:11:58,050 --> 00:11:59,802 was when she was talking about 259 00:11:59,885 --> 00:12:02,096 downgrading Huxley's speech therapy. 260 00:12:03,514 --> 00:12:05,808 We're gonna go to a different speech therapist, 261 00:12:05,891 --> 00:12:07,935 not the one that's... (LAUGHS) ...500 dollars a month. 262 00:12:07,977 --> 00:12:10,146 -JAMES STAUFFER: Oh yeah, tell them. -But we're gonna go to the one 263 00:12:10,229 --> 00:12:11,480 that's, um... 264 00:12:11,522 --> 00:12:14,150 It's like 70 dollars for 30 minutes. 265 00:12:14,191 --> 00:12:16,485 Everyone was freaking out because she's talking 266 00:12:16,569 --> 00:12:18,487 about how expensive the therapy is 267 00:12:18,529 --> 00:12:19,613 and then they're noticing 268 00:12:19,655 --> 00:12:22,158 that she's wearing this expensive bracelet. 269 00:12:22,241 --> 00:12:24,326 -Cartier bracelet. -Cartier watch. 270 00:12:24,410 --> 00:12:26,787 -Cartier watch. -YOUTUBER: A Cartier bracelet. 271 00:12:26,829 --> 00:12:29,498 Sixty-five-hundred-dollar bracelet on her wrist. 272 00:12:29,582 --> 00:12:32,585 But you can't afford 500 dollars a month 273 00:12:32,668 --> 00:12:34,837 for a speech therapist? 274 00:12:34,879 --> 00:12:36,881 Not 500 dollars for 30 minutes. 275 00:12:36,964 --> 00:12:38,883 -JAMES: Yeah. -No, no, no. 276 00:12:38,966 --> 00:12:40,468 SOPHIE: It was just very, very interesting 277 00:12:40,509 --> 00:12:42,261 falling into this rabbit hole of this woman 278 00:12:42,344 --> 00:12:46,140 who clearly was just living the life of luxury 279 00:12:46,182 --> 00:12:48,434 while apparently saying that, 280 00:12:48,517 --> 00:12:50,603 you know, she didn't have the resources 281 00:12:50,686 --> 00:12:54,231 to take care of this human being that she had adopted. 282 00:13:02,156 --> 00:13:03,032 (CLICKS TONGUE) 283 00:13:03,115 --> 00:13:06,410 Do I think they adopted Huxley for the views? 284 00:13:07,328 --> 00:13:11,707 I... I think they adopted Huxley 285 00:13:11,749 --> 00:13:13,709 for multiple reasons, 286 00:13:13,793 --> 00:13:16,462 as these decisions are always complicated, 287 00:13:16,545 --> 00:13:19,215 but I definitely think getting more views is a part of it. 288 00:13:19,256 --> 00:13:20,549 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 289 00:13:20,591 --> 00:13:22,885 People really, really, really mobilized 290 00:13:22,927 --> 00:13:26,639 to, like, you know, hold them accountable. 291 00:13:28,641 --> 00:13:31,977 People ended up messaging sponsors. 292 00:13:33,354 --> 00:13:35,564 Go onto Twitter. Tag the brands. 293 00:13:35,606 --> 00:13:38,567 One by one, brands were dropping her left and right. 294 00:13:38,609 --> 00:13:40,361 Pretty much every single brand 295 00:13:40,402 --> 00:13:41,821 that she'd ever partnered with. 296 00:13:43,489 --> 00:13:46,242 People had reached out to Fabletics 297 00:13:46,325 --> 00:13:48,410 and I guess Kate herself 298 00:13:48,452 --> 00:13:50,913 to confirm they were no longer working with Myka. 299 00:13:57,044 --> 00:14:01,382 Kate Hudson. That is wild. Is that real Kate Hudson? 300 00:14:01,423 --> 00:14:04,593 "She was terminated. Thank you for your awareness and care." 301 00:14:04,635 --> 00:14:06,428 "We are not currently working with Stauffer family. 302 00:14:06,512 --> 00:14:09,223 Do not have plans to partner with them in the future." 303 00:14:10,224 --> 00:14:12,476 Even Barbie canceled her. 304 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:15,187 -(STATIC CRACKLES) -♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 305 00:14:16,146 --> 00:14:17,606 Within days of the story breaking, 306 00:14:17,648 --> 00:14:19,567 she was pretty much dropped by every brand. 307 00:14:20,192 --> 00:14:23,445 (STATIC CRACKLING) 308 00:14:23,529 --> 00:14:26,574 SOPHIE: That's it for your luxury vehicles and vacations 309 00:14:26,615 --> 00:14:29,785 because no brands are going to work with you anymore. 310 00:14:29,869 --> 00:14:31,620 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 311 00:14:34,081 --> 00:14:35,916 But then the mob wasn't just happy 312 00:14:35,958 --> 00:14:38,127 with the brands dropping them, they wanted more. 313 00:14:38,210 --> 00:14:39,628 It's like they were out for blood. 314 00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:42,298 It was almost like they wanted some kind of pain 315 00:14:42,339 --> 00:14:44,592 or suffering to feel justice. 316 00:14:44,633 --> 00:14:47,136 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 317 00:14:47,177 --> 00:14:51,307 And so they kept digging, and this one sleuther 318 00:14:51,348 --> 00:14:54,101 found this thing that we just all couldn't believe it. 319 00:14:55,352 --> 00:15:00,190 (KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING) 320 00:15:00,274 --> 00:15:04,570 Back in 2017, Myka had uploaded a video to YouTube... 321 00:15:04,653 --> 00:15:06,238 (MOUSE CLICKING) 322 00:15:07,448 --> 00:15:11,035 ...and it was deleted very quickly after. 323 00:15:12,912 --> 00:15:14,580 And re-uploaded. 324 00:15:14,663 --> 00:15:17,166 But the new version was 20 seconds shorter. 325 00:15:17,207 --> 00:15:20,753 -(STATIC CRACKLES) -(DISTORTED CHATTER PLAYING) 326 00:15:20,836 --> 00:15:24,465 (CHATTER CONTINUES) 327 00:15:24,506 --> 00:15:27,176 And so people were like, "What was in that 20 seconds? 328 00:15:27,217 --> 00:15:29,637 What is she-- What is she trying to hide?" 329 00:15:30,429 --> 00:15:31,847 (STATIC CRACKLES) 330 00:15:31,889 --> 00:15:33,390 (CHATTER STOPS) 331 00:15:33,474 --> 00:15:36,685 It almost makes me laugh, because the Internet, 332 00:15:36,769 --> 00:15:38,187 and especially the YouTube community, 333 00:15:38,270 --> 00:15:39,688 you cannot do stuff like that. 334 00:15:39,772 --> 00:15:42,024 You think you can fool them and you cannot. 335 00:15:42,107 --> 00:15:44,860 And if it's ever existed online, people will find it. 336 00:15:44,902 --> 00:15:47,863 And it turns out this is what it was. 337 00:15:47,905 --> 00:15:49,907 -The Stauffers are showing... -(HUXLEY BABBLING) 338 00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:52,785 HANNAH: ...just day-to-day footage and then... 339 00:15:52,868 --> 00:15:53,911 (JAMES YELPS) 340 00:15:53,994 --> 00:15:58,165 Hi, Huxley. What you doing in there, man? 341 00:15:58,207 --> 00:16:00,542 You reorganizing the shoe closet for me, eh? 342 00:16:00,626 --> 00:16:01,543 (HUXLEY GIGGLES) 343 00:16:01,627 --> 00:16:03,754 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 344 00:16:08,133 --> 00:16:10,719 SOPHIE: There are a lot of things you can do on the Internet 345 00:16:10,803 --> 00:16:14,556 and the things you absolutely cannot do 346 00:16:14,598 --> 00:16:17,726 are what some would consider child abuse. 347 00:16:17,768 --> 00:16:19,228 ♪ (EERIE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 348 00:16:19,311 --> 00:16:22,648 SOPHIE: And that's what people were alleging was going on here. 349 00:16:22,731 --> 00:16:25,943 The Stauffers were allegedly duct taping his arms. 350 00:16:26,026 --> 00:16:27,361 Duct tape. 351 00:16:27,403 --> 00:16:30,280 Thick silver tape around this boy's hand. 352 00:16:30,364 --> 00:16:32,241 To get him to stop sucking his thumb 353 00:16:32,282 --> 00:16:34,118 and using that as a preventative measure. 354 00:16:34,201 --> 00:16:37,246 I would never in a bajillion years 355 00:16:37,287 --> 00:16:39,123 duct tape my son's skin. 356 00:16:40,332 --> 00:16:44,253 Having tape on your child, duct tape in particular, 357 00:16:44,294 --> 00:16:47,589 what parent thinks that's okay? 358 00:16:47,631 --> 00:16:50,259 Duct tape is something you use to, like, kidnap people. 359 00:16:50,300 --> 00:16:54,680 Once people saw the duct tape on Huxley, 360 00:16:54,763 --> 00:16:58,934 everyone just started picturing the absolute worst. 361 00:16:59,018 --> 00:17:01,270 Wondering, "Hey, are they telling the truth 362 00:17:01,353 --> 00:17:05,566 about him getting placed in a new, loving home?" 363 00:17:05,607 --> 00:17:07,776 They just completely lost all trust 364 00:17:07,860 --> 00:17:09,611 from that point forward. 365 00:17:09,653 --> 00:17:10,904 (STATIC CRACKLES) 366 00:17:10,946 --> 00:17:12,906 Where is Huxley? 367 00:17:12,948 --> 00:17:14,199 They keep saying that they're adamant 368 00:17:14,283 --> 00:17:15,409 that he is not missing, 369 00:17:16,035 --> 00:17:17,286 but then where is he? 370 00:17:17,327 --> 00:17:20,539 This is criminal and they should be arrested. 371 00:17:20,622 --> 00:17:24,877 People started throwing around the most insane, 372 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,296 unfounded conspiracy theories. 373 00:17:27,379 --> 00:17:29,715 This child could be in complete danger. 374 00:17:29,798 --> 00:17:30,924 She could have sold him. 375 00:17:30,966 --> 00:17:32,468 She could have buried him in the backyard 376 00:17:32,509 --> 00:17:34,303 after getting too mad at him one time. 377 00:17:34,344 --> 00:17:36,096 Maybe Huxley was just, like, passed along 378 00:17:36,138 --> 00:17:38,974 on a Facebook group, which is considered trafficking. 379 00:17:39,016 --> 00:17:42,811 They've even told their children 380 00:17:42,853 --> 00:17:45,731 that he was going to kill them in their sleep. 381 00:17:45,814 --> 00:17:48,984 There really isn't any rules here. 382 00:17:49,068 --> 00:17:52,946 And, yeah, everyone was very along for the ride. 383 00:17:52,988 --> 00:17:55,783 Where's Huxley? Where'd you put the baby? 384 00:17:55,824 --> 00:17:57,993 Where is Huxley Stauffer, Myka? 385 00:17:58,035 --> 00:18:00,662 Where is Huxley? Tell the police where he's at. 386 00:18:01,622 --> 00:18:03,832 (KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING) 387 00:18:04,708 --> 00:18:06,502 ♪ (OMINOUS MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 388 00:18:06,543 --> 00:18:09,421 (MOUSE CLICKING) 389 00:18:14,968 --> 00:18:16,970 -(INDISTINCT CHATTER) -(PHONE RINGING) 390 00:18:17,012 --> 00:18:19,348 REPRESENTATIVE: So, we received phone calls 391 00:18:19,431 --> 00:18:21,016 and multiple emails 392 00:18:21,058 --> 00:18:23,060 from people that were making allegations 393 00:18:23,143 --> 00:18:26,188 -of possible, um, child abuse. -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 394 00:18:26,271 --> 00:18:27,856 ♪ (SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 395 00:18:27,898 --> 00:18:29,149 REPRESENTATIVE: It was unusual. 396 00:18:29,191 --> 00:18:30,234 It makes us scratch our head 397 00:18:30,317 --> 00:18:32,069 when more than one or two or three comes in. 398 00:18:32,152 --> 00:18:34,363 Of course, like, "Wait, what's going on?" 399 00:18:34,404 --> 00:18:36,073 DIRECTOR: This is the police report. 400 00:18:37,699 --> 00:18:38,700 This right here? 401 00:18:42,996 --> 00:18:44,706 Yeah, I've seen this actually. 402 00:18:44,748 --> 00:18:46,792 HANNAH: Delaware County Sheriff's Office. 403 00:18:46,875 --> 00:18:49,294 Some redacted stuff in here. 404 00:18:50,504 --> 00:18:52,714 The blacked-out name is Myka, right? 405 00:18:52,798 --> 00:18:56,218 And it looks like they opened the case on June 1st 406 00:18:56,260 --> 00:19:00,889 which is four or five days after, um, the video went up. 407 00:19:02,683 --> 00:19:04,893 "I advised the Stauffers that our main concerns 408 00:19:04,935 --> 00:19:06,436 from the allegations we have received 409 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,063 are the safety and wellbeing of..." 410 00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:09,523 And I'm assuming it says Huxley. 411 00:19:09,565 --> 00:19:11,275 "...along with the allegations of abuse 412 00:19:11,358 --> 00:19:13,152 and human trafficking of him." 413 00:19:14,194 --> 00:19:15,154 Whoa. 414 00:19:15,237 --> 00:19:17,447 Myka stated they were getting threats every day 415 00:19:17,531 --> 00:19:19,992 and people are threatening to slit her kids' throat 416 00:19:20,075 --> 00:19:22,077 because they think they did something wrong. 417 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,454 That is intense. 418 00:19:24,538 --> 00:19:26,290 HANNAH: "They have had 35 death threats. 419 00:19:26,373 --> 00:19:27,749 They will be moving from their home 420 00:19:27,791 --> 00:19:28,834 in Powell, Ohio." 421 00:19:29,793 --> 00:19:31,753 SOPHIE: "After conducting wellbeing checks 422 00:19:31,795 --> 00:19:33,922 on Myka Stauffer's biological children, 423 00:19:34,006 --> 00:19:35,549 it was determined that there were no signs 424 00:19:35,591 --> 00:19:37,426 of physical abuse against any of the children. 425 00:19:37,509 --> 00:19:41,430 As far as the talk of possible human trafficking against them, 426 00:19:41,513 --> 00:19:45,100 it was determined that the process of his adoption 427 00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:47,603 is being conducted legally." Oh, they're talking about Huxley. 428 00:19:47,686 --> 00:19:48,896 Crazy. 429 00:19:48,937 --> 00:19:51,899 Definitely humanizes them more. 430 00:19:51,940 --> 00:19:55,777 Definitely gives, like, the other side of the story. 431 00:19:56,653 --> 00:19:58,739 I can't say I'm surprised, honestly. 432 00:19:58,780 --> 00:20:00,782 Um, people get death threats 433 00:20:00,824 --> 00:20:05,871 for things way more innocuous than this. 434 00:20:05,954 --> 00:20:08,123 I mean, at this point, I think a lot of the time, 435 00:20:08,165 --> 00:20:10,125 influencers are just sort of advised to get over it, 436 00:20:10,167 --> 00:20:12,461 unless something really seems to pose a credible threat. 437 00:20:12,502 --> 00:20:15,088 It's now treated as, like, a part of the job. 438 00:20:15,130 --> 00:20:16,340 I mean, journalists get it. 439 00:20:16,423 --> 00:20:19,718 I've gotten some crazy messages in my day, for sure. (CHUCKLES) 440 00:20:19,801 --> 00:20:23,472 DIRECTOR: 441 00:20:23,555 --> 00:20:25,140 Mm-hmm. 442 00:20:25,182 --> 00:20:27,601 There are plenty of-- plenty of death threats like that. 443 00:20:28,268 --> 00:20:31,355 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 444 00:20:40,572 --> 00:20:42,074 Sickening. 445 00:20:42,157 --> 00:20:45,911 It's unfathomable that people would treat anyone this way, 446 00:20:45,994 --> 00:20:48,455 people who are ostensibly concerned 447 00:20:48,497 --> 00:20:50,999 about a child's best interest, and then turning around 448 00:20:51,041 --> 00:20:53,627 and making death threats against this family. 449 00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:55,212 That's unconscionable. 450 00:20:57,673 --> 00:20:59,967 I'm the acting president and CEO 451 00:21:00,008 --> 00:21:01,843 at the National Council For Adoption. 452 00:21:01,927 --> 00:21:03,929 We just call ourselves NCFA. 453 00:21:04,763 --> 00:21:06,515 In May of 2020, 454 00:21:06,556 --> 00:21:09,518 we started getting a lot of media inquiries. 455 00:21:09,601 --> 00:21:11,687 The story had generated a lot of headlines. 456 00:21:11,770 --> 00:21:15,315 It was of concern to many people in the community 457 00:21:15,357 --> 00:21:17,526 and we were being asked to weigh in 458 00:21:17,567 --> 00:21:20,112 and to issue a particular statement on this. 459 00:21:21,697 --> 00:21:23,031 A lot of people were really upset 460 00:21:23,115 --> 00:21:25,325 about the decision because 461 00:21:25,367 --> 00:21:28,161 any time there is a disruption or a dissolution, 462 00:21:28,203 --> 00:21:29,204 that is a failure. 463 00:21:29,788 --> 00:21:31,415 This was a failure. 464 00:21:31,498 --> 00:21:34,376 It represents that there was a breakdown. 465 00:21:34,418 --> 00:21:39,214 Where I would want to caution us is we don't know all the details 466 00:21:39,256 --> 00:21:42,050 in this particular family's story. 467 00:21:42,092 --> 00:21:43,802 And they very well may have been making 468 00:21:43,885 --> 00:21:46,305 a decision that's in this child's best interest. 469 00:21:47,681 --> 00:21:49,057 Dissolutions happen, 470 00:21:49,099 --> 00:21:51,226 and it's important that we recognize that it happens 471 00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:53,687 because there are gonna be circumstances 472 00:21:53,729 --> 00:21:56,732 where the best way to meet a child's needs 473 00:21:56,773 --> 00:21:57,983 is in a different setting, 474 00:21:58,066 --> 00:22:00,986 perhaps a really therapeutic family setting 475 00:22:01,069 --> 00:22:04,906 to provide ongoing support in a way that the prior family 476 00:22:04,948 --> 00:22:06,575 was unable to. 477 00:22:06,616 --> 00:22:09,578 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 478 00:22:11,121 --> 00:22:12,873 ASHLEY: I understand the negative opinions 479 00:22:12,914 --> 00:22:17,586 because I used to think that kind of same way. 480 00:22:17,627 --> 00:22:20,922 "How selfish. Adoption's a lifelong decision. 481 00:22:21,006 --> 00:22:23,467 Being a parent is a lifelong decision. 482 00:22:23,550 --> 00:22:25,427 It was a little bit hard 483 00:22:25,469 --> 00:22:28,430 and then you decide to throw in the towel." 484 00:22:28,472 --> 00:22:31,183 -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ -The only reason I know any better 485 00:22:31,266 --> 00:22:33,226 is because it happened to us. 486 00:22:35,354 --> 00:22:38,940 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 487 00:22:39,024 --> 00:22:43,528 ASHLEY: In 2014, my husband and I decided to adopt a child. 488 00:22:44,821 --> 00:22:47,574 Like the Stauffers, we decided to do 489 00:22:47,616 --> 00:22:50,410 an international special needs adoption. 490 00:22:50,452 --> 00:22:52,371 And our motivation behind it was that 491 00:22:52,454 --> 00:22:55,540 we wanted to give a child a home that actually needed a home, 492 00:22:55,624 --> 00:22:58,210 and not a child that people are waiting for. 493 00:22:58,293 --> 00:22:59,461 And we wanted a child 494 00:22:59,544 --> 00:23:00,962 that probably wasn't gonna get adopted, 495 00:23:01,004 --> 00:23:02,756 or not get adopted soon. 496 00:23:04,466 --> 00:23:06,093 I don't even know which trips these are. 497 00:23:06,134 --> 00:23:08,804 -There's so many of them. -Yeah, your memory is bad. 498 00:23:08,887 --> 00:23:11,973 This is... Oh, actually, now I'm not sure. 499 00:23:13,392 --> 00:23:15,310 In the beginning, when we started the process, 500 00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:16,812 you do get some medical information. 501 00:23:16,895 --> 00:23:21,441 You get as much as they have, a few-page document about it. 502 00:23:21,483 --> 00:23:23,819 Our daughter, she was four and a half years old. 503 00:23:23,860 --> 00:23:25,821 She weighed 15 pounds. 504 00:23:25,904 --> 00:23:29,157 She couldn't walk. She couldn't talk. 505 00:23:29,199 --> 00:23:31,535 Um, she couldn't sit up on her own. 506 00:23:31,618 --> 00:23:34,496 She had a stomach issue that we didn't know about. 507 00:23:34,579 --> 00:23:37,666 -ASHLEY'S HUSBAND: There's a tummy ache one. -Oh, yes. Yeah, it is. 508 00:23:37,749 --> 00:23:39,918 Anything with frowny faces means tummy ache. 509 00:23:40,001 --> 00:23:41,795 ASHLEY: Yeah, she-- she always had a stomachache, 510 00:23:41,837 --> 00:23:43,672 all of her early pictures. 511 00:23:43,713 --> 00:23:47,300 She draws the tummy ache and a frowny face, usually. 512 00:23:48,552 --> 00:23:50,095 At the very beginning, 513 00:23:50,178 --> 00:23:52,139 she just screamed all day, every day... 514 00:23:52,180 --> 00:23:54,015 (CHUCKLES) ...like, just screamed. 515 00:23:54,057 --> 00:23:56,268 Eventually, the tantrums got less and less and less. 516 00:23:56,351 --> 00:23:58,562 But it was quite a long journey from there. 517 00:23:59,604 --> 00:24:01,982 This is what she came in. 518 00:24:02,023 --> 00:24:04,151 ASHLEY'S HUSBAND: Yeah. The outfit she was wearing 519 00:24:04,192 --> 00:24:05,277 when we picked her up. 520 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:07,571 Yeah. She was four, 521 00:24:07,654 --> 00:24:11,575 wearing this little number. 522 00:24:12,534 --> 00:24:14,369 CHILD: Wait, you still have that? 523 00:24:14,411 --> 00:24:15,370 ASHLEY: Yeah. 524 00:24:15,454 --> 00:24:16,705 CHILD: I think it still fits me. 525 00:24:16,746 --> 00:24:18,039 ASHLEY: Mm, I doubt it. 526 00:24:18,123 --> 00:24:20,083 It's been in your closet this whole time. 527 00:24:25,922 --> 00:24:28,383 I think we went into the second time very confident, 528 00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:31,219 thinking, "Okay, we've done the hardest that it can be." 529 00:24:31,303 --> 00:24:33,763 You know, we've done screaming all day long. 530 00:24:33,847 --> 00:24:37,058 And even though it was hard, it had been so rewarding 531 00:24:37,142 --> 00:24:39,895 and it was just something we really wanted to do again. 532 00:24:39,936 --> 00:24:42,063 (BIRDS CHIRPING) 533 00:24:45,734 --> 00:24:47,319 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 534 00:24:47,903 --> 00:24:50,322 ♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 535 00:24:50,405 --> 00:24:53,033 ASHLEY: The second time we adopted, we met him. 536 00:24:53,074 --> 00:24:55,577 He was in general very calm. 537 00:24:55,660 --> 00:24:58,455 It seemed like, "Okay, this is a good fit." 538 00:24:59,414 --> 00:25:03,752 After we signed the paperwork, we headed home. 539 00:25:03,835 --> 00:25:07,589 And within two days, we started to notice that 540 00:25:07,672 --> 00:25:10,091 things were not what we thought they were. 541 00:25:10,133 --> 00:25:11,218 ♪ (MUSIC TURNS TENSE) ♪ 542 00:25:11,259 --> 00:25:13,261 ASHLEY: I don't feel like it's appropriate 543 00:25:13,345 --> 00:25:17,432 to share a lot of the really hard things, 544 00:25:17,474 --> 00:25:21,311 but it just went downhill from there. 545 00:25:22,521 --> 00:25:25,190 What made me realize that it was the end 546 00:25:25,273 --> 00:25:28,193 and it needed to be the end, 547 00:25:28,276 --> 00:25:31,446 I wasn't functioning anymore, I couldn't remember anything. 548 00:25:31,488 --> 00:25:33,281 (INHALES) 549 00:25:33,365 --> 00:25:36,243 I couldn't put a sentence together sometimes. 550 00:25:36,284 --> 00:25:39,287 I was just scared of what I might do 551 00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:41,456 if I was pushed any further. 552 00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:44,417 (VOICE QUIVERING) I started to, like, 553 00:25:44,459 --> 00:25:46,545 have thoughts of harming him. 554 00:25:47,837 --> 00:25:52,884 And I know now, obviously, I would never harm a child... 555 00:25:54,261 --> 00:25:57,514 because I would do literally anything else not to, 556 00:25:57,597 --> 00:26:01,476 including find a better place for them. 557 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,519 ♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 558 00:26:02,602 --> 00:26:04,229 CHILD: One, two, three, four, five. 559 00:26:04,312 --> 00:26:06,773 -One, two, three, four, five, seven, eight, nine, ten. -(CHUCKLES) 560 00:26:07,232 --> 00:26:08,400 (CAT PURRS) 561 00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:12,988 ASHLEY: I'm sure the Stauffer family 562 00:26:13,071 --> 00:26:15,615 had different challenges than what we've experienced. 563 00:26:15,657 --> 00:26:19,452 But I do know that there's more to the story than just, 564 00:26:19,494 --> 00:26:21,997 you know, what you can show in a few videos. 565 00:26:22,038 --> 00:26:24,165 Myka, she kinda said the same thing. 566 00:26:24,207 --> 00:26:25,667 JAMES: You're not having a good day today. 567 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:27,335 We never tell you guys the truth. 568 00:26:27,377 --> 00:26:29,462 And that's why you don't see Huxley a lot in the vlogs. 569 00:26:29,504 --> 00:26:30,547 (HUXLEY FUSSING) 570 00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:32,591 He's probably having a meltdown. 571 00:26:33,341 --> 00:26:35,260 -Are you done? -(MOUSE CLICKS) 572 00:26:35,343 --> 00:26:38,555 ASHLEY: They made some choices that I wouldn't have made 573 00:26:39,222 --> 00:26:41,349 in terms of, like, privacy. 574 00:26:41,391 --> 00:26:44,686 But people were saying, "Oh, it didn't seem that bad. 575 00:26:44,769 --> 00:26:47,272 I could have handled that. Why can't they?" 576 00:26:47,355 --> 00:26:49,858 The thing that's interesting about them 577 00:26:49,941 --> 00:26:54,029 is that people say both things. 578 00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:58,825 They say, "How dare you post his tantrums on YouTube?" 579 00:26:58,867 --> 00:27:01,578 But also, "From what we've seen, it's not that bad." 580 00:27:02,787 --> 00:27:04,289 So it's like, okay, so you want them 581 00:27:04,372 --> 00:27:06,041 to show everything 582 00:27:06,124 --> 00:27:07,459 so that you can judge 583 00:27:07,542 --> 00:27:09,586 whether or not it was bad enough. (CHUCKLES) 584 00:27:09,669 --> 00:27:12,005 But also, if they do that, that's bad. 585 00:27:12,047 --> 00:27:14,466 There's really no winning in that situation. 586 00:27:16,718 --> 00:27:20,055 We'll never have a full picture of what was going on there. 587 00:27:20,096 --> 00:27:21,556 No one's ever gonna know, right? 588 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,308 You don't know until you've lived it. 589 00:27:23,391 --> 00:27:25,393 ♪ (INTRIGUING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 590 00:27:25,435 --> 00:27:27,562 ASHLEY: People were just accusing them of being 591 00:27:27,646 --> 00:27:29,147 the worst kind of people. 592 00:27:29,230 --> 00:27:32,734 So I posted a Reddit thread. 593 00:27:32,776 --> 00:27:35,904 -(KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING) -(MOUSE CLICKING) 594 00:27:41,701 --> 00:27:43,370 ASHLEY: "The title makes it sound flippant, 595 00:27:43,411 --> 00:27:46,164 but I'm low-key terrified to say anything about it. 596 00:27:46,247 --> 00:27:47,415 The story is big right now 597 00:27:47,499 --> 00:27:49,334 about a YouTube couple who 'rehomed' 598 00:27:49,417 --> 00:27:52,087 their internationally adopted child who had autism. 599 00:27:52,128 --> 00:27:54,798 Last year, I had to do exactly that. 600 00:27:54,881 --> 00:27:57,008 Please, no death threats." 601 00:27:59,427 --> 00:28:02,263 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 602 00:28:02,347 --> 00:28:03,890 Probably the biggest issue 603 00:28:03,932 --> 00:28:06,559 with the fact that these situations do happen 604 00:28:06,601 --> 00:28:08,520 is the fact that people don't talk about them. 605 00:28:08,603 --> 00:28:09,646 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 606 00:28:09,729 --> 00:28:13,233 ASHLEY: People do think that everything's gonna be 607 00:28:13,274 --> 00:28:15,110 rainbows and butterflies 608 00:28:15,151 --> 00:28:16,986 and their child's gonna be perfect, 609 00:28:17,070 --> 00:28:19,531 and all they need is love and a little bit 610 00:28:19,614 --> 00:28:21,533 of medical attention, and then... 611 00:28:22,784 --> 00:28:25,036 that will erase all kinds of trauma. 612 00:28:27,288 --> 00:28:31,376 I did feel like someone needs to share from the other side 613 00:28:31,459 --> 00:28:34,295 because it's not always true. 614 00:28:34,337 --> 00:28:36,506 And it hasn't been my experience. 615 00:28:43,138 --> 00:28:45,014 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 616 00:28:45,098 --> 00:28:47,976 -(BIRDS CHIRPING) -♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 617 00:28:52,731 --> 00:28:54,858 HANNAH: What's so interesting and fascinating 618 00:28:54,941 --> 00:28:56,860 about the Stauffer story in particular 619 00:28:56,943 --> 00:28:59,487 is that we all have things that trigger us. 620 00:29:00,989 --> 00:29:02,031 For me personally, 621 00:29:02,115 --> 00:29:04,784 they were gonna shine such a positive light 622 00:29:04,826 --> 00:29:08,788 on adoption and maybe heal some of my own wounds. 623 00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:11,249 As an adoptee, 624 00:29:11,332 --> 00:29:14,502 you're literally starting your life out 625 00:29:14,544 --> 00:29:16,254 being thrown away, to an extent. 626 00:29:16,337 --> 00:29:19,674 And I know we have to say positive things like, 627 00:29:19,758 --> 00:29:21,050 "They wanted a better life for you," 628 00:29:21,134 --> 00:29:22,343 your biological parents. 629 00:29:22,385 --> 00:29:24,679 "They couldn't provide for you. Maybe it's a war-torn country. 630 00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:27,474 Maybe you had medical stuff that they couldn't pay for, 631 00:29:27,515 --> 00:29:28,892 so they were hoping for the best." 632 00:29:28,975 --> 00:29:33,980 But you start your life knowing that you were not good enough, 633 00:29:34,022 --> 00:29:36,065 not loved enough, not worthy enough. 634 00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:37,192 You were already a burden. 635 00:29:41,446 --> 00:29:45,533 So then when you see an adoptee and you're rooting for them, 636 00:29:45,617 --> 00:29:48,536 like, that they're gonna have a family that loves them 637 00:29:48,578 --> 00:29:50,038 and kind of makes up for that loss 638 00:29:50,121 --> 00:29:51,456 they've already experienced, 639 00:29:51,539 --> 00:29:55,043 and then the message is that it was too hard 640 00:29:55,126 --> 00:29:58,463 or it just wasn't the right "fit for us." 641 00:29:58,546 --> 00:30:01,174 Like, it's not a shoe, okay? I'm sorry it didn't fit 642 00:30:01,216 --> 00:30:03,051 and then you just can return it to the store 643 00:30:03,134 --> 00:30:04,761 and just not think about it anymore. 644 00:30:04,844 --> 00:30:06,387 So it kind of affirms that, 645 00:30:06,429 --> 00:30:08,348 um, we weren't wanted to start with 646 00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:09,682 and then we still aren't wanted 647 00:30:09,724 --> 00:30:11,768 even after someone tells us we were. 648 00:30:12,477 --> 00:30:13,853 I think that's what's hard. 649 00:30:14,354 --> 00:30:16,064 (BIRDS CHIRPING) 650 00:30:25,114 --> 00:30:28,451 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 651 00:30:29,452 --> 00:30:30,954 RYAN HANLON: We ought to recognize 652 00:30:31,037 --> 00:30:33,498 the difficulty here, the complexity here. 653 00:30:33,581 --> 00:30:36,292 The challenge for any parent to make a decision that 654 00:30:36,376 --> 00:30:38,753 they're not gonna stay together as a family. 655 00:30:43,633 --> 00:30:47,303 Unfortunately, instead of trying to respond compassionately, 656 00:30:48,638 --> 00:30:51,641 people chose to respond out of anger or hatred. 657 00:30:52,684 --> 00:30:56,104 Inaccurate and very defaming remarks 658 00:30:56,187 --> 00:30:58,106 that can destroy people's lives. 659 00:30:58,147 --> 00:30:59,941 And impacts not just these parents 660 00:31:00,024 --> 00:31:02,068 but the children as well. 661 00:31:02,110 --> 00:31:04,237 That's something that's gonna be following 662 00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:07,532 this family and these children throughout their lives. 663 00:31:07,615 --> 00:31:11,119 -(STATIC CRACKLES) -♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 664 00:31:13,580 --> 00:31:15,540 -Can you say, "Mama"? -CHILD 1: Mama. 665 00:31:15,623 --> 00:31:18,084 -Can you say... -(OVERLAPPING CHATTER) 666 00:31:18,126 --> 00:31:19,627 (HAROLD EARLS GROWLS, LAUGHS) 667 00:31:19,669 --> 00:31:21,296 -(CHILD 2 SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) -Oh. 668 00:31:21,379 --> 00:31:23,131 RACHEL EARLS: Babe, what are we gonna do? 669 00:31:23,172 --> 00:31:24,299 (HAROLD LAUGHING) 670 00:31:24,382 --> 00:31:26,801 Social media has created 671 00:31:26,843 --> 00:31:28,469 these beautiful moments in our life 672 00:31:28,511 --> 00:31:31,014 and has connected us to our followers, right? 673 00:31:31,097 --> 00:31:34,100 Our Earls fam. And it's been an amazing thing. 674 00:31:34,142 --> 00:31:36,644 It also has a terrible side to it, 675 00:31:36,728 --> 00:31:38,104 and that is the cyberbullying. 676 00:31:38,146 --> 00:31:39,981 ♪ (TENSE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 677 00:31:40,023 --> 00:31:42,442 CHANNON ROSE: It's a little blue snail! 678 00:31:42,483 --> 00:31:44,152 Something that's really scary 679 00:31:44,235 --> 00:31:46,571 that family channels have to deal with 680 00:31:46,654 --> 00:31:50,033 are people that will just literally do everything 681 00:31:50,116 --> 00:31:53,202 in their power to try to hurt you. 682 00:31:53,286 --> 00:31:55,413 I remember one night, in the middle of the night, 683 00:31:55,496 --> 00:31:58,207 I got a knock on the door and it was the police. 684 00:31:58,291 --> 00:32:00,418 -OFFICER: An anonymous person called us... -TRAVIS DEAN: Okay. 685 00:32:00,501 --> 00:32:02,337 OFFICER: ...and said that somebody was on Facebook Live, 686 00:32:02,420 --> 00:32:04,339 -saying they were gonna... -CHANNON: The police are like, 687 00:32:04,380 --> 00:32:06,215 "We've gotten a call saying that you're performing 688 00:32:06,299 --> 00:32:07,467 sex acts with your kids, 689 00:32:07,508 --> 00:32:09,052 we need to check on them. Are they okay?" 690 00:32:09,135 --> 00:32:10,803 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 691 00:32:10,845 --> 00:32:13,681 CHANNON: I had to wake up Snow when she was just a baby 692 00:32:13,723 --> 00:32:15,850 and bring her downstairs to show the police 693 00:32:15,892 --> 00:32:19,771 that she was totally fine and not being abused or injured. 694 00:32:20,772 --> 00:32:23,024 A lot of times when the police get these calls, 695 00:32:23,107 --> 00:32:25,318 maybe they think that it's a neighbor calling 696 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,195 or a family member or a friend. 697 00:32:27,236 --> 00:32:28,696 They don't realize that these are people 698 00:32:28,738 --> 00:32:31,032 we've never met before in our lives. 699 00:32:31,115 --> 00:32:32,700 Now, every time I get a knock on the door, 700 00:32:32,742 --> 00:32:35,161 I'm scared and paranoid it's gonna be the police 701 00:32:35,203 --> 00:32:37,538 trying to, like, take my kids away or, like... 702 00:32:37,580 --> 00:32:40,792 who knows what stories someone called to tell them. 703 00:32:40,875 --> 00:32:43,461 -...the back yard. -Is this thing on? (LAUGHS) 704 00:32:43,544 --> 00:32:44,796 HAROLD: We're-- We're humans. 705 00:32:44,879 --> 00:32:46,714 We're not just, like, actors on a screen. 706 00:32:46,756 --> 00:32:48,841 And so I think that's part of the problem, 707 00:32:48,883 --> 00:32:50,551 is they see it as entertainment, 708 00:32:50,635 --> 00:32:53,888 and the real human often gets left behind 709 00:32:53,930 --> 00:32:57,058 in the drama and the strife that's caused with it. 710 00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:59,686 (KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING) 711 00:32:59,727 --> 00:33:01,354 SOPHIE: When the story blew up, 712 00:33:01,396 --> 00:33:04,732 the names and the faces of all of the children 713 00:33:04,816 --> 00:33:06,484 were blasted everywhere. 714 00:33:06,567 --> 00:33:07,610 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 715 00:33:07,694 --> 00:33:09,904 And it's really... 716 00:33:09,946 --> 00:33:13,199 sad and tragic to think about the effect that 717 00:33:13,241 --> 00:33:16,411 this had to have had on the rest of the children. 718 00:33:18,162 --> 00:33:22,041 DIRECTOR: 719 00:33:23,668 --> 00:33:25,503 Yeah, no. I don't really-- (LAUGHS) 720 00:33:25,586 --> 00:33:28,881 I think that the responsibility lies on, you know, 721 00:33:28,923 --> 00:33:33,219 the parents being shitty human beings, honestly. 722 00:33:33,261 --> 00:33:35,263 ♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 723 00:33:35,346 --> 00:33:36,723 STEPHANIE: There's a lot of darkness 724 00:33:36,764 --> 00:33:39,100 in family YouTuber communities 725 00:33:39,142 --> 00:33:40,935 and the response to them. 726 00:33:41,686 --> 00:33:44,105 In this case with the Stauffers, 727 00:33:44,147 --> 00:33:46,232 people definitely took advantage of this 728 00:33:46,274 --> 00:33:47,775 for their own YouTube channels. 729 00:33:47,817 --> 00:33:49,819 -(MOUSE CLICKS) -I started talking about it 730 00:33:49,902 --> 00:33:51,070 and the channel kind of exploded. 731 00:33:51,112 --> 00:33:52,739 Five thousand likes and I'll do a part three. 732 00:33:52,780 --> 00:33:55,950 Myka made sure to exploit her child's 733 00:33:55,992 --> 00:33:57,952 entire adoption journey. 734 00:33:58,036 --> 00:34:00,079 Don't forget to subscribe down below 735 00:34:00,121 --> 00:34:02,582 and give this video a thumbs up. 736 00:34:02,623 --> 00:34:03,624 (MOUSE CLICKS) 737 00:34:03,708 --> 00:34:05,293 ♪ (MUSIC TURNS TENSE) ♪ 738 00:34:05,376 --> 00:34:08,296 SOPHIE: There are now thousands, maybe even millions of families 739 00:34:08,379 --> 00:34:10,006 just like the Stauffers, 740 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:12,800 vloggers and YouTubers that are 741 00:34:12,842 --> 00:34:14,927 putting their children's faces out there. 742 00:34:14,969 --> 00:34:16,554 I'm pregnant. 743 00:34:16,637 --> 00:34:17,972 YOUTUBER 1: We got a daughter! 744 00:34:18,014 --> 00:34:19,182 BOTH: Aw. 745 00:34:19,265 --> 00:34:21,434 -YOUTUBER 2: Let's go, everyone. -(OVERLAPPING CHATTER) 746 00:34:21,476 --> 00:34:23,728 SOPHIE: The business of family vlogging 747 00:34:23,811 --> 00:34:25,021 and mommy vloggers 748 00:34:25,104 --> 00:34:27,023 is still booming 749 00:34:27,106 --> 00:34:30,109 and probably will be for a long time. 750 00:34:30,151 --> 00:34:32,153 Give this video a big thumbs up. 751 00:34:32,195 --> 00:34:34,322 (COMPUTER CHIMING) 752 00:34:34,363 --> 00:34:36,115 SOPHIE: Obviously, there is a demand 753 00:34:36,157 --> 00:34:38,785 for this type of content. 754 00:34:38,826 --> 00:34:40,161 -(OVERLAPPING CHATTER) -YOUTUBER 1: Yes! Yes! 755 00:34:40,203 --> 00:34:41,329 YOUTUBER 2: Of course he will. 756 00:34:41,370 --> 00:34:42,705 -Come on. Let's go. -YOUTUBER 1: Higher. Let's go. 757 00:34:42,789 --> 00:34:43,915 YOUTUBER 2: Let's go, let's go... 758 00:34:43,998 --> 00:34:46,167 I think there are a lot of ethical issues 759 00:34:46,250 --> 00:34:48,836 with monetizing a child's entire childhood, 760 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,922 especially if you don't protect their privacy, 761 00:34:51,005 --> 00:34:51,964 and you're doing things 762 00:34:52,006 --> 00:34:53,633 like sharing their embarrassing moments, 763 00:34:53,674 --> 00:34:57,595 sharing their trauma, all of that kind of stuff. 764 00:34:57,678 --> 00:34:59,180 ♪ (INTRIGUING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 765 00:34:59,222 --> 00:35:01,682 STEPHANIE: I think the shame is that 766 00:35:01,724 --> 00:35:06,187 instead of channeling this moral outrage and saying, 767 00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:07,855 "You know what? Maybe this is the time 768 00:35:07,897 --> 00:35:11,359 to seriously take a look at family YouTubers," 769 00:35:11,442 --> 00:35:13,611 people just yelled about the Stauffers on the Internet 770 00:35:13,694 --> 00:35:15,321 and sent death threats. 771 00:35:15,363 --> 00:35:19,200 Which-- Okay, but that didn't help any other children. 772 00:35:19,283 --> 00:35:21,536 Let's put some laws into place. 773 00:35:21,619 --> 00:35:23,079 How can we make this safe for kids? 774 00:35:23,162 --> 00:35:26,040 While there are laws for child actors for instance, 775 00:35:26,082 --> 00:35:28,209 there aren't really laws in place for the children 776 00:35:28,292 --> 00:35:30,586 of influencers, mommy vloggers. 777 00:35:32,171 --> 00:35:33,089 They are working. 778 00:35:33,172 --> 00:35:35,216 They are making money for adults. 779 00:35:35,299 --> 00:35:37,718 (IMITATES DRUMROLL) Sponsored by Welch's Fruit Snacks, baby! 780 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,803 FAMILY: Yeah! 781 00:35:38,886 --> 00:35:41,222 YOUTUBER 1: We got this epic new Oculus. 782 00:35:41,264 --> 00:35:43,391 YOUTUBER 2: This video is sponsored by Oculus. 783 00:35:43,432 --> 00:35:44,851 YOUTUBER 3: Parents, you can find out more 784 00:35:44,892 --> 00:35:46,144 about today's Play-Doh sets 785 00:35:46,227 --> 00:35:48,729 by visiting the link in the description box of this video. 786 00:35:49,814 --> 00:35:51,023 ♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪ 787 00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:54,318 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 788 00:35:57,822 --> 00:35:59,699 (KEYBOARD KEYS CLACKING) 789 00:36:01,284 --> 00:36:05,872 SOPHIE: About a month after the announcement about Huxley, 790 00:36:05,913 --> 00:36:07,874 Myka tried to do damage control 791 00:36:07,915 --> 00:36:11,752 by posting a lengthy statement on Instagram. 792 00:36:11,836 --> 00:36:14,422 I'll pull it up because it's her last Instagram post, 793 00:36:14,505 --> 00:36:15,590 like, to this day. 794 00:36:16,382 --> 00:36:18,009 Uh, do you want me to read it? 795 00:36:18,092 --> 00:36:20,595 She goes "I want to first off apologize 796 00:36:20,636 --> 00:36:23,264 for the uproar and take full responsibility 797 00:36:23,347 --> 00:36:25,433 for all of the hurt that I have caused. 798 00:36:25,516 --> 00:36:27,476 I'm sorry for letting down so many women 799 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,937 that looked up to me as a mother." 800 00:36:30,021 --> 00:36:31,606 HANNAH: "I wanted to help so bad, 801 00:36:31,647 --> 00:36:34,150 I was willing to bring home any child that needed me. 802 00:36:34,233 --> 00:36:36,110 For this, I was naive foolish, and arrogant." 803 00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:38,863 I also want to mention that moms need a safe place 804 00:36:38,946 --> 00:36:40,823 to ask for help when they are struggling. 805 00:36:40,907 --> 00:36:41,949 No questions asked. 806 00:36:42,033 --> 00:36:43,951 Praying that Huxley only has the best future 807 00:36:44,035 --> 00:36:45,786 in the entire world." 808 00:36:45,828 --> 00:36:47,580 This whole thing, this apology 809 00:36:47,622 --> 00:36:50,499 was the last that anyone ever heard from Myka. 810 00:36:52,084 --> 00:36:54,295 (MOUSE CLICKING) 811 00:36:54,337 --> 00:36:55,504 (STATIC CRACKLES) 812 00:36:56,380 --> 00:37:01,135 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 813 00:37:01,219 --> 00:37:02,762 Even to this day, 814 00:37:02,803 --> 00:37:04,722 people are still kind of calling for their heads 815 00:37:04,805 --> 00:37:06,641 even though they left the Internet. 816 00:37:06,682 --> 00:37:08,142 I mean, James didn't leave the Internet, 817 00:37:08,184 --> 00:37:09,352 but Myka left the Internet. 818 00:37:09,435 --> 00:37:11,145 ♪ (SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 819 00:37:11,229 --> 00:37:12,396 (MOUSE CLICKS) 820 00:37:14,857 --> 00:37:17,276 STEPHANIE: Stauffer Garage has been able to survive 821 00:37:17,318 --> 00:37:21,364 because it has nothing to do with the family. 822 00:37:21,447 --> 00:37:25,159 But also, people blamed Myka a lot more than James, 823 00:37:25,201 --> 00:37:28,746 which isn't surprising if you've been a woman. 824 00:37:28,829 --> 00:37:30,790 (LAUGHS) Um... 825 00:37:30,831 --> 00:37:33,668 Of course people are gonna blame the mom more, basically saying 826 00:37:33,751 --> 00:37:36,337 he was the good guy and she was the bad guy, 827 00:37:36,379 --> 00:37:38,172 which there was no evidence for. 828 00:37:38,923 --> 00:37:39,840 It's just heartbreaking. 829 00:37:39,882 --> 00:37:42,093 It's heartbreaking, the whole situation. 830 00:37:42,176 --> 00:37:44,095 DIRECTOR: I'm just curious, when it all unfolded, 831 00:37:44,178 --> 00:37:46,847 did you reach out to Myka or had you been in-- No. 832 00:37:46,931 --> 00:37:49,850 No, I never reached out to her and I feel really bad. 833 00:37:49,934 --> 00:37:51,394 I feel like I probably should have. 834 00:37:51,477 --> 00:37:52,979 Um, but I was scared. 835 00:37:55,481 --> 00:37:57,942 DIRECTOR: Did you follow what went down with the Stauffers? 836 00:37:58,025 --> 00:37:59,360 Mm-hmm. 837 00:37:59,443 --> 00:38:02,113 DIRECTOR: I mean, maybe you can tell me a little about that story. 838 00:38:02,196 --> 00:38:03,364 -Just be careful. -Yeah. 839 00:38:03,406 --> 00:38:04,448 Be very careful. 840 00:38:05,241 --> 00:38:06,534 CHANNON: People are scared. 841 00:38:06,617 --> 00:38:08,869 Because if you are even associated 842 00:38:08,911 --> 00:38:10,371 with her in the slightest, 843 00:38:10,454 --> 00:38:12,206 then you will also get canceled. 844 00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:14,959 Have you guys reached out to the Stauffers? 845 00:38:15,042 --> 00:38:17,545 DIRECTOR: 846 00:38:17,628 --> 00:38:21,340 And they're not partaking? 847 00:38:21,841 --> 00:38:24,218 DIRECTOR: 848 00:38:25,761 --> 00:38:29,181 Exactly. There's nothing they can say and they know that. 849 00:38:29,223 --> 00:38:30,391 ♪ (INTRIGUING MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 850 00:38:30,433 --> 00:38:33,436 STEPHANIE: I mean, it sounds kinda ridiculous, but... 851 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,439 she was truly canceled. 852 00:38:36,522 --> 00:38:38,274 I don't think she can come back from this. 853 00:38:38,357 --> 00:38:40,192 It feels awful to get canceled 854 00:38:40,234 --> 00:38:44,447 and having all the people that once loved you, hate you. 855 00:38:44,530 --> 00:38:45,906 I don't know why people do this. 856 00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:47,533 I don't know if it makes them feel better 857 00:38:47,575 --> 00:38:50,036 to tear other people down. 858 00:38:50,077 --> 00:38:53,706 The cyber bullies, they win if we stop being vulnerable, 859 00:38:53,748 --> 00:38:56,083 -if we stop sharing our life. -Yes. 860 00:38:56,167 --> 00:38:58,252 HAROLD: The whole point is to impact other people positively. 861 00:38:58,294 --> 00:38:59,587 And if we're like, 862 00:38:59,628 --> 00:39:01,213 "We're not comfortable doing this anymore, 863 00:39:01,255 --> 00:39:03,424 we're gonna stop, or put our guards up," 864 00:39:03,507 --> 00:39:05,384 well, congratulations. That's exactly what they wanted. 865 00:39:06,469 --> 00:39:08,637 HANNAH: I look back now and I feel like I'm sorry 866 00:39:08,721 --> 00:39:11,599 for all the pain that their whole family went through 867 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:12,725 and that they experienced. 868 00:39:12,767 --> 00:39:14,935 I know that they're real people who go to sleep at night 869 00:39:14,977 --> 00:39:17,897 and they have feelings just like the rest of us, 870 00:39:17,938 --> 00:39:19,607 but sometimes we don't know our boundaries 871 00:39:19,690 --> 00:39:22,610 or we don't know where the lines are 872 00:39:22,693 --> 00:39:23,861 if people don't cross them. 873 00:39:23,944 --> 00:39:26,030 And I feel like they kind of did that for us. 874 00:39:27,406 --> 00:39:29,575 SOPHIE: This is kind of the first generation, really, 875 00:39:29,617 --> 00:39:31,410 that's living on social media in this way. 876 00:39:31,452 --> 00:39:33,245 -(CHILD FUSSING) -Thanks for watching, guys. 877 00:39:33,287 --> 00:39:34,413 CHILD: No. 878 00:39:34,455 --> 00:39:36,665 HANNAH: When I was a kid, the Internet didn't exist. 879 00:39:36,749 --> 00:39:39,126 So when I decided to start sharing myself 880 00:39:39,168 --> 00:39:40,920 and create my own online presence, 881 00:39:40,961 --> 00:39:42,213 it was very much my decision. 882 00:39:42,296 --> 00:39:45,132 And now all the children don't have that. 883 00:39:45,174 --> 00:39:47,218 And before they're even able to decide 884 00:39:47,301 --> 00:39:49,053 how much they want the world to know them, 885 00:39:49,136 --> 00:39:51,555 they already have this huge Internet thumbprint. 886 00:39:57,186 --> 00:39:58,604 STEPHANIE: I think the next decade 887 00:39:58,646 --> 00:40:03,109 is going to be extremely illuminating for everyone 888 00:40:03,150 --> 00:40:07,655 when these kids start coming out and saying, 889 00:40:08,572 --> 00:40:10,533 "I was a vlogger kid. I didn't like it," 890 00:40:10,616 --> 00:40:12,118 or "I did like it." 891 00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:15,329 We simply don't know how these kids are gonna feel. 892 00:40:15,413 --> 00:40:18,374 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪ 893 00:40:30,636 --> 00:40:33,681 HANNAH: We all want a nice little bow at the end, 894 00:40:33,764 --> 00:40:36,767 whether it's a happy ending or just closure in general. 895 00:40:38,185 --> 00:40:42,106 I think what's so nuanced about this story in particular 896 00:40:42,189 --> 00:40:44,316 is that there are still a lot of question marks. 897 00:40:46,819 --> 00:40:48,863 SOPHIE: "On June 9th, 2020, 898 00:40:48,904 --> 00:40:50,990 Huxley was in the process 899 00:40:51,031 --> 00:40:53,826 of being adopted by a new family. 900 00:40:53,868 --> 00:40:56,328 "Deputy Woods contacted his adoptive family 901 00:40:56,370 --> 00:40:58,539 to conduct a well-being check. 902 00:40:58,622 --> 00:41:00,749 Huxley's adoptive mother was singing a song to him 903 00:41:00,833 --> 00:41:03,377 as he was sitting on her lap, smiling. 904 00:41:03,461 --> 00:41:06,714 Huxley appeared to be very happy and well taken care of. 905 00:41:06,755 --> 00:41:09,049 At this time, the investigation will be closed out 906 00:41:09,091 --> 00:41:11,719 with no further follow-up from our office." 907 00:41:15,347 --> 00:41:17,391 STEPHANIE: It seems like he is in a good environment, 908 00:41:17,433 --> 00:41:20,644 so I think that is a net positive, I suppose. 909 00:41:22,938 --> 00:41:25,024 HANNAH: Huxley's still out there somewhere 910 00:41:25,065 --> 00:41:27,985 and we may never get the closure we're looking for. 911 00:41:30,779 --> 00:41:32,865 Honestly, I kind of like it that way. 912 00:41:34,241 --> 00:41:36,952 Because now, I can create my own conclusion. 913 00:41:38,204 --> 00:41:40,539 I hope he can grow up and have a better life 914 00:41:40,581 --> 00:41:42,875 than we could have ever imagined for him. 915 00:41:46,921 --> 00:41:49,215 And the fact that we don't have to know 916 00:41:49,256 --> 00:41:50,799 kind of gives me a little peace. 917 00:41:56,013 --> 00:41:58,098 ♪ (PENSIVE MUSIC CONTINUES) ♪ 918 00:42:31,340 --> 00:42:32,716 ♪ (MUSIC CONCLUDES) ♪ 71830

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