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[menacing music playing]
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[woman 1] Two friends shot to death
on a sunny afternoon
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while sitting on a park bench
at Cleveland Metroparks.
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[woman 2] It is a murder mystery
that, so far, has police stumped.
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[woman 3] Why Nell?
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Why Kate?
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How could somebody murder these two people
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in the way that they did?
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{\an8}[woman 4] He was at the wrong place
at the wrong time.
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He didn't deserve that.
[voice breaking] He didn't.
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[man 1] My beautiful daughter
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laying face down in a muddy river.
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And somebody just walks away.
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[man 2] Somebody walked up on 'em
and done it.
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Execution style.
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[man 3] It was broad daylight
in a well-traveled area,
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on a beautiful summer day.
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And nobody saw anything.
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[opening theme music playing]
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[music ends]
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[eerie music playing]
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-[beeping]
-[woman 1] Cleveland Metroparks Police.
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[woman 2] My boyfriend and I parked
to go kayaking,
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and it looks like there's two bodies
that were shot.
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[woman 1] Where?
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[woman 2] Um... We pulled into
the Rocky River Reservation.
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We're probably maybe three miles in,
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and both of these people
are definitely dead.
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[unsettling music playing]
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[woman 2] We were coming in the car
down the road,
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and we were pulling in
to see if we could launch the kayaks.
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And I saw someone
laying down here along the river.
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And I said to him,
"You should go check on that guy."
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"He doesn't look okay."
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[man] His knees were bent,
and he was facing the river.
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He had his eyes open,
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and I noticed a... bullet hole in his head.
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[Kaitlin] It also had appeared
to have just happened
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because he still looked warm.
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[mysterious music playing]
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And that's when I noticed the woman
lying down... face down on the bank.
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It was really shocking
just to see her down there.
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[voice breaking] Sorry. [sniffles] Um...
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[Tony] I remember
being in kind of a frenzy,
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and I was honestly stricken with fear.
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[Kaitlin] So he said,
"Please just go back to the car,"
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and that was when I saw a truck...
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with a guy sitting in it.
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[eerie music playing]
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[Kaitlin] And that just seemed really odd.
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There was also just the fear of, like,
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did we just see something that could
potentially be putting us in danger here?
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[Tony] So I called back to Kait,
and I told her, "Call the police."
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-[siren wailing]
-[indistinct police radio chatter]
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[man 1] 101 Radio,
you can put me en route to Lorain.
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[woman] You got it.
I believe everyone's en route.
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[man 2] Additional units responding.
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We'll need the road
to be shut down, please.
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[menacing music playing]
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[man] When I heard the call dispatched,
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{\an8}I responded straight to the scene,
along with three other detectives.
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[tense music playing]
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[Sylvis] When we first arrived,
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we found a Black male
face down on the grass
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beside a bench
that overlooks the Rocky River.
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And there was a white female
that was face down in the water,
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about six feet in front of that bench.
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Both of the victims
had sustained gunshot wounds.
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The male was shot twice,
and the female was shot once.
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It seemed apparent
that it was either a double murder
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or it was a murder-suicide.
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[woman] We can't...
We don't see a weapon or anything.
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{\an8}This whole area's
gonna have to be searched.
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[Sylvis] When we searched the crime scene,
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we found three shell casings
from a small-caliber weapon,
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and we rolled the victims over
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and found that there were
no firearms concealed underneath them.
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So after we searched the area thoroughly
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and found no weapon present at the scene,
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it was apparent that this was a murder
of both of those victims.
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[tense music playing]
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When a gun's fired, the shell casings
are ejected from the firearm
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before the next round can be fired.
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And the shell casings were found
relatively close to the bodies,
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so that told us that the shooter
was close to the victims
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when the murders occurred.
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Murders committed with firearms
are inherently more difficult to solve
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because there's physical distance
between the victim and the suspect,
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so there's no trace evidence
transferred between them.
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[man]
As the assistant prosecuting attorney
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at the Cuyahoga County
Prosecutor's Office,
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I was there to be available
for legal questions on scene.
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Once the bodies were removed, um...
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for later examination and an autopsy,
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the next step was to identify the victims,
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who they are,
and how do they know each other.
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[camera clicks]
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[Sylvis] There were two unoccupied cars
located in the parking lot...
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[camera clicks]
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[Sylvis] ...which is about a hundred feet
from where the victims were found.
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We did registration checks
on those license plates
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and found that the sedan
was registered to Kate Brown,
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and the SUV
was registered to Carnell Sledge.
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[pensive music playing]
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[distant dog barking]
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[indistinct police radio chatter]
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[man 1] It was 3:00 a.m.,
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and I see somebody shining flashlights
outside the front of the house.
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So we went downstairs, opened the door
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to two gentlemen
standing on the front step,
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{\an8}and they said, "We have some bad news
about your daughter Kate."
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[inhales, sighs]
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[man 2] They identified theyself
as the Metropark detectives,
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and they showed me a sheet
that had Nell's photos on it.
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My wife was still asleep.
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{\an8}[inhales deeply] So I told 'em,
"Come on up to the kitchen,"
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{\an8}then I went and got her.
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And they said that, hey, you know,
our son had been murdered.
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Him and another girl in the Metroparks.
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And I was like, you know,
"How would something like that happen?"
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[Tom] Then we found out she was with Nell,
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and Nell was killed too.
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[woman] And now it's a double whammy.
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I mean, her good friend Nell
was sitting next to her,
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and they were both shot.
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Uh... What?!
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At first, I was like,
"You... You sure you got the right kid?"
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You know, this is, you know, not my kid.
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It was just hard to take... take it in.
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And it was just strange
because we didn't know Kate.
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He has friends that I don't know.
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He was private in that way.
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[Kim] And the minute the police left,
that was the worst,
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because we said,
"How are we gonna tell the girls?"
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"How are we gonna tell her sisters?"
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[music fades]
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-[woman 1] Christmas 1990.
-[Kim] Yeah!
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Kate was five.
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[Kim] Now you're gonna get your stockings.
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[woman 1] Kate's trying
to get hers down herself.
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-[Tom] Is that Kate?
-[Kim] Yeah, that's Kate.
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[Tom] That's Kate by the fireplace.
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[all laugh]
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I got all this makeup stuff!
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[all laugh]
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[woman 1] Kate was
the traditional little sister,
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following me around,
wanting to try on my clothes,
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all of those things
that little sisters did.
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{\an8}We had similar friends, similar interests,
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like sports, dance, music.
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Nobody else in my life
knew me the way that Kate did.
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{\an8}She was my protective older sister
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and was always on my side.
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[attempting posh English accent]
There's a purple and pink ant on my nose!
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I can't get it off!
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Hey!
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[Alexandra] She was really, really goofy.
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She was weird.
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Weird in a good way where it was, um...
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You knew when she was in a good mood
by her level of goofiness.
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{\an8}[Lauren] She was
so lighthearted and carefree,
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{\an8}but I think the fight
between dark and light was a challenge.
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[Alexandra] Kate struggled often
with depression and anxiety,
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and, for years, the only coping mechanism
she had was drinking.
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But, thankfully,
Kate decided to get sober.
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She had been on a path of self-discovery
for years.
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And she had put in the work.
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She was happy with her career in marketing
for a jewelry company.
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So she was just feeling good.
She was vibrant. She was happy.
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She sent me a picture
about a week before she died,
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and her comment underneath
was, "Stella's got her groove back."
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And she had just hung out with Nell
the night before she text me.
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[intriguing music playing]
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Kate and Nell had
a really unique friendship.
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They had met a decade before,
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and it kind of ebbed and flowed.
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There came points where Kate would get
in a serious relationship, or Nell would,
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and they would maybe
not communicate as much,
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and then, when they were able to again,
they would reconnect,
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and it was as if no time had passed.
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They had that kind of friendship.
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[Darlene] His first picture,
Carnell was maybe two months old.
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[Carl] Right, right.
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[Darlene] Look at him. He was so cute!
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-He was a great baby.
-Yeah.
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[Darlene] Nell was special
to his family and friends.
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I try to think about the good times
'cause we had a lotta good times.
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He was a real good kid.
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[woman] He's my first grandson.
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I loved him from the day
I seen him in the crib.
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{\an8}And I was just thankful
for the 40 years I did have my baby.
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{\an8}I'm thankful for that.
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{\an8}[man] Carnell was my big brother.
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{\an8}He was my role model.
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{\an8}And, you know, he's always been
a... strong-willed older brother.
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{\an8}[chuckles] Passionate
and got me into sports.
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Carnell was 6'4", 220 lbs.
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But not a confrontational guy.
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A teddy bear. [chuckles]
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Yeah, not a... not a fighter. [chuckles]
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He always cared for me,
loved me, wanted the best for me,
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you know, and I wanted the best for him,
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but regardless how big I got,
I was always just his little brother.
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He was always a person that wanted
to help people, even when he was young.
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[Darlene] All of his jobs surrounded kids.
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He coached children with disabilities,
and they would have so much fun.
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He was so patient, and they loved him.
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[cheering]
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[Darlene] They miss him so much.
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To this day,
they still talk about Carnell.
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Yeah.
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[tense music playing]
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An investigation is underway
and a community on edge
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after two people were found dead
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in the Cleveland Metroparks
Rocky River Reservation in Fairview Park.
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[man] The Cuyahoga County medical examiner
is conducting autopsies today
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to shed light on what happened.
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Until then,
this community is left wondering.
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[unsettling music playing]
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[Lauren] The Metropark system
here in Cleveland
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is often called the Emerald Necklace
because, you know, in Cleveland,
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we're surrounded by all these green,
luscious, beautiful parks,
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and it's not uncommon
to see people jogging there,
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families pushing their strollers
in the parks.
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All walks of life visit these parks.
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[Kim] Kate's apartment building
overlooked the Metroparks,
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and she would meet friends
down there a lot
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because it was beautiful.
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[man] It's not like the city of Cleveland,
where on a weekend,
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you may have eight or nine homicides.
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{\an8}In the Metroparks,
the last homicide we had
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{\an8}prior to the one we're talking about today
was 20 years ago.
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And where this happened at, uh, there was
a lot of traffic going through that day,
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so it was really
a very strange occurrence.
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[car door closes]
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This is where Kate and Carnell
were killed.
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You can see the road and the parking lot.
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It's in very close proximity
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to the bench they were on
when they were shot.
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Very close to the street,
easily seen from traffic passing by.
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At five o'clock, there's so much traffic
going down that causeway.
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I mean, 75 feet from this...
from this bench.
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How could it happen
that nobody heard or saw anything?
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That just... To me, that just...
It's hard to believe.
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[Sylvis] When we arrived at the scene,
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there was a man parked in a truck
in that parking lot.
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We found out
that he worked for a roofing company,
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and he said he saw Kate and Carnell
arrive at the location.
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[Awadallah] According to him,
he was working on estimates
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and writing up work orders
when this incident took place.
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He reported that he didn't hear
the sound of any gunshots
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or see any suspicious people in the area.
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[Darlene] He heard nothing, he says.
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I question that.
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Why would you still be working in the park
at 5:00 in the afternoon?
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And you don't hear a gunshot,
several gunshots?
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Mm-hmm.
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I have told the authorities
I question that.
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[Sylvis] Small-caliber firearms
are much less loud,
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and if that weapon was
additionally silenced with a suppressor,
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it could be very quiet.
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So we believe
that it's completely possible
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that the roofer did not hear the gunshots
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from that distance inside of his truck.
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He was our first person of interest
in this case
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because he was there before,
during, and after the murders,
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but we looked at him extensively
from the very beginning.
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And through searches
of his electronic devices
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to include the tablet that he was
working on and his cell phone,
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we can verify
that he was busy doing those tasks
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during the time
that these murders took place.
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[eerie music playing]
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Our initial assessment was robbery
appears to be a very unlikely motive
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because the victims had belongings
on their persons and inside their vehicles
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that were not taken.
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Kate's cell phone was recovered.
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Carnell's car contained two cell phones.
A work phone and a personal phone,
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and also, their wallets were in plain view
inside the vehicles,
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and those were untouched.
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We also found an area of blood
on the back of the bench
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where the male victim was seated,
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and this led us to believe
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that the victims were approached
and shot from behind.
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[unsettling music playing]
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[Alexandra] What they told us was Nell,
he was shot in the back of the head.
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When Nell had fallen to the ground,
he was shot again in the head.
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Kate jumped down to the riverbank,
which is about five, six feet
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and started running away
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and was shot in the back of the head
while trying to flee.
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The police don't know who the target was,
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but, because Nell was shot first
and twice,
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in my mind, that was evidence
that he was the target
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and could've been trying to protect Kate.
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[Sylvis] I think it's most likely
that the assailant came
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from the street or from that parking lot,
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and the escape route
could be the same way.
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Or it could be through these wooded areas.
That's one of the unknowns with this case.
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[man] We're about 150, 200 meters
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{\an8}to the southwest
of where the crime took place
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{\an8}underneath the Lorain Avenue Bridge.
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Couple hundred meters
down the road to the south, uh,
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kind of, uh, a gravel pathway hooks up
with this main bike, running path.
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{\an8}I am the assistant special agent in charge
of the FBI Cleveland Field Office.
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The FBI typically doesn't work
homicide cases
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because it's not a federal violation.
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But I became familiar with the case
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after Cleveland Metroparks
asked for our assistance.
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This could be a potential avenue of escape
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if somebody was on foot or on a bike
or something like that.
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Could somebody have ran over here
after shooting two people
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and maybe not been seen
and maybe scrambled up the hill?
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I mean, there's any number
of, um, possibilities.
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Every time I think about this case...
I get angry.
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That could've been any one of us
sitting on the park bench
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I guess is what makes me the most angry.
That the...
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the fact that two lives like that
were ended, um... for no reason, um...
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on such a beautiful day
in such a beautiful park.
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{\an8}A question we've been getting
day after day here at 19 News,
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{\an8}what is going on with the investigation
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{\an8}into the double murder
in the Metroparks Rocky River Reservation?
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{\an8}Both victims' family and police
are searching for answers.
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[Awadallah]
As the investigation developed,
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all the parties,
the investigating agencies,
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had gathered for a strategy session
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in order to piece together a timeline
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as to what happened that day
as fast as possible.
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We reviewed surveillance camera footage
from Kate's apartment complex.
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And in doing so,
we found that Kate arrived home from work,
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{\an8}and she signed in to a gym
that's located on the property
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{\an8}to exercise at 3:38 p.m.
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[text message alert]
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[Sylvis] Cell-phone records reveal
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{\an8}that Carnell sent Kate
a text message at 4:02 p.m.
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{\an8}asking her if she'd like
to get together with him at some point.
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{\an8}Of course, we don't know
why Kate and Carnell were meeting.
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I think any coordination
was done through voice calls,
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which we obviously
don't have access to the content of.
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{\an8}We know she ultimately places
a phone call to him
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{\an8}while she's still at the gym,
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{\an8}and that phone call lasted
for about ten minutes.
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{\an8}[downbeat music playing]
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{\an8}[Sylvis] Carnell left work at 4:24 p.m.,
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{\an8}and Kate signed out of her gym
at 4:31 p.m.
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[keys jangle]
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[engine starts]
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[Sylvis] And at that point,
both of them headed towards the park.
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One of our officers was running radar
along the side of the road
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about a mile from the crime scene.
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And that officer's dashboard camera
captured a vehicle
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{\an8}that appears to be Kate's car
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{\an8}traveling along the parkway
towards the crime scene at 5:01 p.m.
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{\an8}At 5:03 p.m., Carnell's car is seen
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{\an8}passing that same police cruiser
on the dashboard camera
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{\an8}also headed towards the crime scene.
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We believe they arrived there
in about two minutes...
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parked at the scene,
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and sat on the park bench... together.
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But one of the biggest challenges
in this case
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is still we don't know
why they were meeting that day.
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[unsettling music playing]
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[Lauren]
That's the million-dollar question.
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Why did they meet that day?
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[Terrance] What was the meeting for?
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Has this been happening a lot more
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and nobody knew about it?
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Or was this just a one-time occurrence?
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[Darlene] I believe
it was a last-minute meetup.
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I do.
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But I also believe he was there
to help her in some kinda way.
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[Kim] When things were tough for Kate,
she'd look to Carnell,
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and, likewise, when Carnell
was struggling with something,
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he'd get in contact with Kate.
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That's right.
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[Alexandra] When this first happened,
I imagined Kate reaching out to Nell
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because she needed a friend that day.
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But if it was Nell that wanted to meet up,
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I would guess that he had
something important to tell her
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about their relationship.
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That he wished
they could be more than friends.
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Kate had told me
about a month or two before
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that he said, you know, "Kate, one day
we're gonna end up together."
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So, in my mind,
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it could've possibly have been
another conversation like that.
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[music fades]
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I just don't know
what could've been so important
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that they had to meet in person.
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It didn't make sense to me.
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[ominous music playing]
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Because Nell had made plans
for a family dinner that day
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for five o'clock at his grandma's house.
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And the Rocky River Metropark
is the west side of Cleveland,
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so it was kinda going out of his way
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to go to the Metropark from work
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and then back to Grandma's,
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southeast side.
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It seems if it were not so important,
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he could've went after dinner.
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Something made him go before dinner.
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[Posey] My thinking is he was gonna go,
and maybe after he'd see her for a while,
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then call me, tell me,
"Grandma, I'm on my way now."
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{\an8}But he didn't get a chance
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{\an8}'cause as soon as he got there,
it happened.
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[eerie music playing]
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{\an8}[Sylvis] Kate unlocked
and checked her phone at 5:08 p.m.
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{\an8}A time that we know her and Carnell
to be at the park.
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{\an8}The 911 call was received at 5:22 p.m.
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{\an8}So we know
within that 14-minute time span,
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{\an8}the assailant approached Kate and Carnell
as they sat on the park bench,
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{\an8}fired three shots at close range,
and killed them both.
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[Awadallah] The biggest mystery
for law enforcement
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is why were they killed?
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Is this a personal attack?
A crime of passion?
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{\an8}Who was the target here?
Was it Carnell? Was it Kate?
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{\an8}Was this a stranger?
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Those are some of the things
that this investigation struggled with.
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[Sylvis] Neither of the victims
had significant assets,
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feuds, or criminal histories
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that led to an obvious motive
in this case.
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[Alexandra] In the very beginning,
I thought it was possibly a hate crime.
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Judging by the way
that the murder had happened
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and the level of brazenness it required.
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{\an8}[man] Hate crimes in Cleveland,
they are skyrocketing,
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{\an8}and it does not matter the motivation.
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{\an8}Hate crimes over race, ethnicity,
religions, sexual orientation,
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{\an8}they're all on the rise.
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{\an8}[Tom] I was told by one of the detectives
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{\an8}there's over 30 hate groups
based in that area.
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It wouldn't take much
for somebody driving to the park,
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sees a white girl and a Black guy,
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and has a gun in his car, and doesn't like
the looks of what he's seeing,
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and pulls over, and... hey.
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I believe that that's possible.
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Certain areas are more prejudiced
than others.
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Not saying that everyone
in Rocky River's prejudiced,
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but there is prejudice... everywhere.
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[Krajek] It's certainly a theory,
but we need to have evidence
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that supports that.
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{\an8}Also, we don't wanna,
I guess, turn a blind eye
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{\an8}to other potential theories
and just say it's only a hate crime.
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It could be a random act of violence
that had nothing to do with race.
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There was a theory that began to surface
that it could've been gang related.
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[unsettling music playing]
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[Krajek] Could it have been
a gang initiation?
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Could've, but, as far as gangs go,
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they will maybe commit a crime
to get into the gang.
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[tires screech]
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{\an8}[Krajek] But it's rarely
on an innocent person or persons.
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It's usually in furtherance of the gang.
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Um, like they'll target
a rival gang member
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on the rival gang member's turf,
so to speak.
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Is it impossible? No, it's not impossible.
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We would never rule anything out.
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[Terrance] I just don't think
a gang would do this. Um...
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{\an8}I don't think it was random.
I really don't.
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I do think this was intentional.
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Somebody really wanted both of them dead.
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[Lauren] What I believe
is that one of them was followed
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{\an8}because authorities think
that they were killed sometime after 5:08,
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{\an8}and the people who found their bodies
called 911 at 5:22.
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{\an8}So that's a very short time window
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{\an8}for somebody to be...
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{\an8}just happen to be there
and decide they're going to do this.
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[tense music playing]
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[Darlene] After the murder,
I thought of everyone differently.
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It could be someone we know.
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It could be someone Kate's family knows.
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[Awadallah] Victimology is very important
in any homicide investigation.
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Who is around the victims
in terms of friends, family, associates?
471
00:28:03,473 --> 00:28:06,101
And is there anybody
that wished them harm?
472
00:28:06,643 --> 00:28:07,894
Was there a stalking issue?
473
00:28:07,977 --> 00:28:10,480
Was there threats in the past
that need to be vetted?
474
00:28:11,356 --> 00:28:12,816
[Sylvis] We're looking for somebody
475
00:28:12,899 --> 00:28:16,695
that would have a desire
to kill one or both of them,
476
00:28:16,778 --> 00:28:19,406
somebody that has access to a firearm,
477
00:28:19,489 --> 00:28:21,491
and somebody
that would have the opportunity
478
00:28:21,574 --> 00:28:24,703
to encounter them at the park
to carry out this crime.
479
00:28:25,704 --> 00:28:28,415
Everyone was a suspect after he died.
480
00:28:28,498 --> 00:28:29,749
[downbeat music playing]
481
00:28:29,833 --> 00:28:31,042
Everyone.
482
00:28:32,669 --> 00:28:35,672
Including Alyssa, his ex-girlfriend.
483
00:28:37,257 --> 00:28:39,092
Because I didn't know her long.
484
00:28:40,343 --> 00:28:45,140
[Alexandra] We started hearing stories
filtering in of an ex-girlfriend of Nell's
485
00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:48,101
that we found abnormal.
486
00:28:49,811 --> 00:28:52,480
There were displayed behaviors
at his funeral.
487
00:28:53,231 --> 00:28:56,776
Over-the-top expression
of grief and emotion,
488
00:28:56,860 --> 00:28:59,904
things that were obvious
to other people as odd.
489
00:29:00,655 --> 00:29:04,743
And we were told
from one of Nell's very close friends
490
00:29:04,826 --> 00:29:08,121
that his ex-girlfriend
had a concealed-carry permit.
491
00:29:09,372 --> 00:29:12,041
That was the first tip
where we fixed our focus
492
00:29:12,125 --> 00:29:14,377
and started looking
a little bit more at her.
493
00:29:15,378 --> 00:29:16,629
[music fades]
494
00:29:16,713 --> 00:29:18,715
[brooding music playing]
495
00:29:19,632 --> 00:29:22,927
[woman] My relationship with Nell
was hard to define.
496
00:29:25,805 --> 00:29:31,311
We had started talking online
about one year before he was killed.
497
00:29:33,104 --> 00:29:37,358
{\an8}And when we met, it was like he...
I'd known him for my whole life.
498
00:29:40,195 --> 00:29:42,739
We dated for about six months
499
00:29:42,822 --> 00:29:48,912
and decided that we were better as friends
for the time being, but...
500
00:29:50,413 --> 00:29:51,956
[softly] ...it's complicated.
501
00:29:55,502 --> 00:29:57,295
A month before he was shot,
502
00:29:57,796 --> 00:30:01,716
we started talking again,
and we got closer and closer,
503
00:30:02,383 --> 00:30:04,052
and we were gonna get back together.
504
00:30:05,845 --> 00:30:10,558
{\an8}The last time I saw him was Saturday,
the weekend before he was killed,
505
00:30:10,642 --> 00:30:13,937
{\an8}but we texted the day that he was killed,
506
00:30:14,020 --> 00:30:17,649
and the last text I got from him
was around 3:00 p.m.
507
00:30:18,817 --> 00:30:22,987
He was asking how I was
'cause I had had a... tough day.
508
00:30:23,071 --> 00:30:24,948
So I texted him later that evening.
509
00:30:26,157 --> 00:30:29,118
And I said,
"No worries. It's in the past."
510
00:30:29,619 --> 00:30:31,162
And I never heard back.
511
00:30:35,583 --> 00:30:41,214
I saw what happened online
on the morning of June 5th
512
00:30:41,297 --> 00:30:44,092
when one of his cousins posted a picture.
513
00:30:44,717 --> 00:30:48,638
It's like my heart dropped to the floor,
and I was just in denial,
514
00:30:49,639 --> 00:30:50,682
disbelief.
515
00:30:53,810 --> 00:30:56,062
When the murder happened, I was at work,
516
00:30:56,729 --> 00:30:59,023
and I hadn't left
until later that evening.
517
00:31:01,317 --> 00:31:05,280
But I did talk to detectives
quite a bit afterwards.
518
00:31:05,905 --> 00:31:09,617
They did ask for my weapon,
and I understand that.
519
00:31:10,910 --> 00:31:14,581
[Sylvis] We did take a very close look
at Carnell's ex-girlfriend.
520
00:31:14,664 --> 00:31:16,249
She had a verifiable alibi
521
00:31:16,332 --> 00:31:19,794
that put her nowhere near the crime scene
when these murders occurred.
522
00:31:19,878 --> 00:31:22,046
She was very cooperative
in the investigation
523
00:31:22,130 --> 00:31:23,673
and turned that weapon over to us,
524
00:31:23,756 --> 00:31:25,967
and it was found
not to be the murder weapon.
525
00:31:26,050 --> 00:31:28,052
[unsettling music playing]
526
00:31:28,845 --> 00:31:31,389
[Miller] I can only guess
what happened that day
527
00:31:31,472 --> 00:31:35,894
because I didn't know anything
about Kate and Nell's friendship.
528
00:31:35,977 --> 00:31:39,272
But I'm thinking
it would've been somebody that Kate knew
529
00:31:39,355 --> 00:31:42,775
because I cannot imagine
anyone wanting to hurt Nell.
530
00:31:42,859 --> 00:31:44,277
He was such a gentle soul.
531
00:31:46,404 --> 00:31:48,323
I guess I'm biased
'cause I'm Nell's brother,
532
00:31:48,406 --> 00:31:51,743
but I don't think it was him
or someone he knew.
533
00:31:52,452 --> 00:31:54,996
And I don't wanna point the blame at Kate,
534
00:31:56,122 --> 00:31:59,542
but... I really think there was something
535
00:31:59,626 --> 00:32:02,378
or someone that maybe had
an issue with her.
536
00:32:03,046 --> 00:32:06,758
It was one of those situations
where we were, again, grasping at straws.
537
00:32:08,885 --> 00:32:11,596
I went on my own investigation
538
00:32:12,305 --> 00:32:15,558
to dig as deeply as I could
in Kate's life.
539
00:32:17,393 --> 00:32:19,646
Going through her stuff after she died,
540
00:32:20,313 --> 00:32:24,692
{\an8}it was the most intense thing
I've ever had to do.
541
00:32:28,571 --> 00:32:31,616
[Lauren] In the months before her death,
Kate had lost all this weight,
542
00:32:31,699 --> 00:32:33,368
and she was feeling really confident
543
00:32:33,451 --> 00:32:36,079
and wanting to get out
into the dating world again.
544
00:32:36,663 --> 00:32:40,750
She hadn't been in a serious relationship
in a long time, hadn't dated,
545
00:32:40,833 --> 00:32:44,754
and so she was kinda stepping out
into that world again.
546
00:32:44,837 --> 00:32:47,090
A very new world of online dating.
547
00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:48,883
She was on Tinder,
548
00:32:49,384 --> 00:32:52,345
and she was meeting up with a couple
different people every now and then
549
00:32:52,428 --> 00:32:54,097
for different types of dates.
550
00:32:54,973 --> 00:32:55,890
[ringing tone]
551
00:32:55,974 --> 00:32:59,519
[Alexandra] The Friday before Kate died,
she was communicating with this person,
552
00:32:59,602 --> 00:33:01,312
met him through a typical dating app...
553
00:33:01,396 --> 00:33:02,438
[tense music playing]
554
00:33:02,522 --> 00:33:06,442
[Alexandra] ...and she met up with him
on a date.
555
00:33:07,610 --> 00:33:11,030
[Lauren] She just had this feeling
about this person,
556
00:33:11,698 --> 00:33:13,282
that something was off.
557
00:33:13,866 --> 00:33:16,369
She described his eyes looking black.
558
00:33:18,037 --> 00:33:21,833
She didn't feel safe, so she left...
559
00:33:24,377 --> 00:33:26,045
and then, later that weekend,
560
00:33:27,922 --> 00:33:33,011
found out that he had killed someone
a decade before.
561
00:33:34,512 --> 00:33:36,556
[Alexandra] The murder
that he was a part of
562
00:33:36,639 --> 00:33:38,808
was extremely disturbing.
563
00:33:39,684 --> 00:33:43,771
He and his brother had stabbed a person
and then set the body on fire.
564
00:33:44,272 --> 00:33:47,233
Kate was pretty frantic about it.
565
00:33:47,316 --> 00:33:49,527
Said, you know, "I can't believe this."
566
00:33:49,610 --> 00:33:52,196
"I don't know why
I didn't look this up sooner."
567
00:33:54,157 --> 00:33:56,993
And I remember her text message
specifically said to me,
568
00:33:57,076 --> 00:33:58,494
"I feel sick right now."
569
00:34:01,330 --> 00:34:03,916
They never saw each other again,
to my knowledge.
570
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,209
[music fades]
571
00:34:06,294 --> 00:34:09,047
Police told us that he had an alibi.
572
00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:13,760
He was down in southern Ohio
when Kate and Nell were killed.
573
00:34:17,013 --> 00:34:19,015
[eerie music playing]
574
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,309
[Tom] There was another man
575
00:34:22,143 --> 00:34:25,897
who she had dated for, I think, a year,
a year and a half maybe.
576
00:34:26,522 --> 00:34:28,983
She'd broke it off with this young man,
577
00:34:30,234 --> 00:34:34,030
but I don't think he wanted
to take no for an answer.
578
00:34:35,406 --> 00:34:38,493
[Lauren] They had
a very troubled relationship,
579
00:34:39,077 --> 00:34:40,953
and he was abusive.
580
00:34:41,913 --> 00:34:46,542
Everybody was aware that he was violent
and had a violent history with her.
581
00:34:47,376 --> 00:34:52,465
They had thankfully broken up
a few years before she died,
582
00:34:52,548 --> 00:34:57,053
but Kate, being a creature of... of habit,
583
00:34:57,595 --> 00:35:00,598
she would continuously see him secretly.
584
00:35:01,390 --> 00:35:03,142
And then I found out
585
00:35:03,226 --> 00:35:06,646
he was with Kate
the night before she died.
586
00:35:07,897 --> 00:35:11,317
The police had told me
that, at Kate's apartment,
587
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,319
there were video cameras
588
00:35:13,402 --> 00:35:15,947
that saw him coming
and leaving that night.
589
00:35:16,697 --> 00:35:20,618
And I pictured the ex-boyfriend
showing up the next day
590
00:35:21,619 --> 00:35:22,787
when she left the gym,
591
00:35:23,913 --> 00:35:27,375
them getting in the typical fight
that they had always gotten into,
592
00:35:28,167 --> 00:35:32,672
and Kate leaving,
and him following her to the park.
593
00:35:34,298 --> 00:35:36,384
Because, if she had denied him,
594
00:35:36,467 --> 00:35:40,972
if she had severed the relationship,
you know, again,
595
00:35:41,055 --> 00:35:42,557
he would wanna retaliate.
596
00:35:44,767 --> 00:35:48,604
[Lauren] Police determined
that he was at a barber shop
597
00:35:48,688 --> 00:35:51,190
at the time
that Nell and Kate were killed.
598
00:35:52,441 --> 00:35:55,403
Whether they have video footage of that
or not, I don't know.
599
00:35:57,446 --> 00:36:01,284
[Kim] The theory of a jealous boyfriend
makes sense.
600
00:36:02,785 --> 00:36:06,038
Jealousy, when it rears its ugly head...
601
00:36:06,122 --> 00:36:07,790
who knows?
602
00:36:07,874 --> 00:36:11,794
And whoever did this was very brazen.
603
00:36:11,878 --> 00:36:14,839
Was it insanity? Was it a psychopath?
604
00:36:14,922 --> 00:36:16,966
Was it rage? Was it jealousy?
605
00:36:17,717 --> 00:36:21,679
I went over it and over it and over it,
day after day after day.
606
00:36:22,471 --> 00:36:24,724
It just doesn't make any sense.
607
00:36:24,807 --> 00:36:28,352
{\an8}Now tonight, a new effort
to bring justice to the Brown family,
608
00:36:28,436 --> 00:36:31,314
{\an8}and investigators are hoping money talks.
609
00:36:31,397 --> 00:36:36,444
{\an8}They are adding $70,000
to the already $30,000 in reward money,
610
00:36:36,527 --> 00:36:39,906
{\an8}bringing the total now to $100,000.
611
00:36:39,989 --> 00:36:44,911
{\an8}We are here today at this press conference
to plead with anyone who has information
612
00:36:44,994 --> 00:36:46,662
{\an8}to please come forward.
613
00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:51,542
[Tom] We raised the reward money.
614
00:36:53,544 --> 00:36:56,589
And we thought,
"Oh my God, somebody's gotta!"
615
00:36:56,672 --> 00:36:59,175
"If they know anything,
they're gonna come forward."
616
00:36:59,675 --> 00:37:01,385
[inhales] But no.
617
00:37:01,886 --> 00:37:03,387
The case started to go cold.
618
00:37:08,851 --> 00:37:12,271
[Alexandra] In the beginning,
I feel like we had more hope
619
00:37:12,355 --> 00:37:15,233
and there was better communication
'cause everything was fresh.
620
00:37:15,316 --> 00:37:17,860
{\an8}Our investigators
continue to work doggedly,
621
00:37:18,361 --> 00:37:20,905
{\an8}pursuing new leads
and following the evidence,
622
00:37:20,988 --> 00:37:26,327
which will lead, one day, to the door
of the person or persons responsible.
623
00:37:27,078 --> 00:37:29,497
[Lauren] But then the longer time went on,
624
00:37:30,957 --> 00:37:35,253
you started to question
what had been done, what hadn't been done.
625
00:37:35,336 --> 00:37:37,922
Do I think some people dropped the ball?
Of course.
626
00:37:39,465 --> 00:37:44,553
And it frustrates me
because nobody's being held accountable.
627
00:37:44,637 --> 00:37:47,098
I never thought
it would have taken this long
628
00:37:47,181 --> 00:37:49,850
in order to get justice.
629
00:37:49,934 --> 00:37:51,769
[unsettling music playing]
630
00:37:51,852 --> 00:37:52,728
Yeah.
631
00:37:53,437 --> 00:37:59,402
There are some really hard...
resentful feelings
632
00:37:59,485 --> 00:38:01,612
as far as law enforcement's concerned.
633
00:38:03,614 --> 00:38:08,661
We had signs we put up
down in the park asking for tips
634
00:38:08,744 --> 00:38:10,955
{\an8}that they made us take down.
635
00:38:11,539 --> 00:38:14,500
{\an8}These aren't signs for a graduation party.
636
00:38:14,583 --> 00:38:19,130
These are signs that are down here
trying to... to stir up tips!
637
00:38:19,213 --> 00:38:24,760
Maybe that one lead
that would lead... to gettin' this solved.
638
00:38:25,761 --> 00:38:30,224
{\an8}It was upsetting, and it was also
one of the last glimmers of hope
639
00:38:30,308 --> 00:38:32,018
{\an8}that we were doing something.
640
00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:36,063
[Lauren] I think the Metroparks
wanted to take the signs down
641
00:38:36,147 --> 00:38:38,899
because they wanted people
to feel safe in their parks.
642
00:38:39,608 --> 00:38:42,695
But if a crime like this
could be committed,
643
00:38:42,778 --> 00:38:44,572
they clearly are not safe.
644
00:38:45,614 --> 00:38:48,784
We certainly use every tool
in the toolbox.
645
00:38:50,453 --> 00:38:53,456
We've submitted the case
to our behavioral-analysis unit
646
00:38:53,956 --> 00:38:55,499
down at FBI Headquarters.
647
00:38:56,375 --> 00:38:59,879
And we've used the FBI's
Violent Criminal Apprehension Program.
648
00:39:00,463 --> 00:39:02,298
Every potential suspect,
649
00:39:02,381 --> 00:39:05,593
no matter how crazy
the lead is or the tip is,
650
00:39:05,676 --> 00:39:08,721
we have run every single one down.
651
00:39:09,305 --> 00:39:10,765
We think about it every day.
652
00:39:11,265 --> 00:39:14,268
We're not giving up,
and we need help with the public
653
00:39:14,352 --> 00:39:16,479
and maybe a little bit of luck
on our side.
654
00:39:18,189 --> 00:39:21,567
[Sylvis] We haven't put the case down
since June 4th of 2019,
655
00:39:21,650 --> 00:39:26,530
and we won't until the person or people
responsible are brought to justice.
656
00:39:27,323 --> 00:39:30,576
[Alexandra] Law enforcement has said
that they have done everything they can
657
00:39:30,659 --> 00:39:35,498
to vet every single suspect
or person of interest that they had,
658
00:39:35,581 --> 00:39:37,833
and they just don't know who did this.
659
00:39:38,709 --> 00:39:40,419
So I look at it like,
660
00:39:41,045 --> 00:39:43,714
get the story out there,
get people talking about it again
661
00:39:43,798 --> 00:39:46,258
because it's just... it's stagnant.
662
00:39:46,342 --> 00:39:48,302
[poignant music playing]
663
00:39:51,013 --> 00:39:53,724
[Darlene] Six months before the murder,
664
00:39:54,934 --> 00:39:58,396
I had a dream that Nell had been shot.
665
00:40:00,314 --> 00:40:03,275
I don't know if God was preparing me
for what was to come,
666
00:40:05,111 --> 00:40:06,278
but he's gone.
667
00:40:09,782 --> 00:40:11,575
[voice breaking]
It shouldn't have happened.
668
00:40:11,659 --> 00:40:14,328
-Yeah, it shouldn't have.
-It shouldn't have happened.
669
00:40:19,166 --> 00:40:23,379
[Lauren] I don't think I'll ever be able
to make sense of what happened.
670
00:40:25,714 --> 00:40:27,299
[tearfully] I miss her so much.
671
00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:33,389
[Posey] It still don't seem real.
672
00:40:33,973 --> 00:40:35,349
And I know it's real.
673
00:40:36,350 --> 00:40:39,937
Being the matriarch of the family,
I'm supposed to be strong
674
00:40:40,020 --> 00:40:42,982
and tell the rest of 'em
to be strong as well,
675
00:40:44,066 --> 00:40:46,318
and not... and not to give up.
676
00:40:48,112 --> 00:40:50,322
[Darlene] I believe
that this person believes
677
00:40:50,406 --> 00:40:52,199
that they've got away with murder.
678
00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:54,493
But it's not over.
679
00:40:55,244 --> 00:40:57,371
Someone knows what happened.
680
00:40:57,997 --> 00:41:00,583
Why they won't come forward, I don't know,
681
00:41:01,083 --> 00:41:04,211
but I pray that this is revealed.
682
00:41:05,171 --> 00:41:07,631
[Alexandra] By finding
the person that did this,
683
00:41:07,715 --> 00:41:11,719
I'll know that that person
can't inflict this on someone else,
684
00:41:12,303 --> 00:41:16,307
and they'll have to live with knowing
the wreckage they caused to our lives.
685
00:41:17,183 --> 00:41:19,310
We will always be here,
686
00:41:19,393 --> 00:41:23,898
looking and trying to figure out
who you are and why you did this.
687
00:41:36,785 --> 00:41:38,787
[music fades]
688
00:41:43,959 --> 00:41:45,961
[closing theme music playing]
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