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[Jimmy] Previously
on Picket Fences...
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I’ve retrieved
what appears to be
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a right middle or ring finger,
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severed at the second joint.
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Maybe we should turn you loose
and let the mob outside
deal with you.
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You can’t do this.
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We can do whatever we want,
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we’re the cops.
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[man 1]
All right, we got it.
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‐[police radio chatter]
‐[man 2] Okay, come on.
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[Henry]
The discovery of the body
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would be fruits
of a poisonous tree.
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I may have no choice
but to dismiss the charges.
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When I come back,
the three of you can tell me
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the brilliant plan
you’ve devised
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to keep that bastard in jail.
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‐Mister...
‐Go figure it out!
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Mr. Latham,
you are going to trial.
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If the Supreme Court
has a problem with that,
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they can come and get me.
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We’ve got two choices,
go right to the appellate court,
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try to overturn Judge Bone,
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get your statement
and the evidence suppressed.
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Or the this case right now,
which I think we should do.
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‐Why?
‐Because our chances
of a conviction
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are better the sooner we go.
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We’ve got all our evidence
except for the weapon
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and if we haven’t
found that by now...
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What about DNA?
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Well, all the blood
we found was hers.
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Hair and fiber go to her, him,
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and in the car, her family.
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‐It’s not airtight.
‐Exactly, it’s circumstantial.
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That’s why I’d like to try it
while it’s still fresh
in the jury’s heads.
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Time can only help
the defense.
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Then why does Wambaugh
want to go now?
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Because I can take advantage
of the short investigation.
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I can argue that
they didn’t take the time
to look for anybody else.
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It’ll play into
reasonable doubt.
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Plus, this trial
is a free shot for us.
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See, if they lose,
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they can still get it overturned
on constitutional grounds.
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If they win,
the state can’t appeal
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an acquittal, the man walks.
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It’s a free buy for him,
Wambaugh knows what he’s doing.
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Do we?
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Appellate courts
are less likely
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to overturn a trial
than they are a hearing.
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If we get a conviction now,
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we make his chances on appeal
much tougher.
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I say we go.
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I say we go.
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‐Do I have a chance?
‐Yes.
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No, our case is circumstantial,
but it’s very strong.
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[John]
He can’t win.
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I cannot lose this guy.
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We won’t.
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Okay.
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‐Okay.
‐Okay.
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You like
murder trials, Kimberly?
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This is going to be a good one.
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[♪♪♪]
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[indistinct chatter]
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Rome’s sheriff department
is a joke. It frustrates me.
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If they knew how to collect
evidence, they’d have caught
the real killer.
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Now, Mr. Wambaugh likes to try
these cases in the media
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where he’s free
to make up the facts.
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‐He says this
because I’m Jewish.
‐[laughter]
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He comes in here today
with nothing
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but public pressure
to get a conviction.
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Yeah, well,
you’ll see what we’ve got.
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I’m getting goosebumps.
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[reporters clamoring]
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I’d appreciate it
if you didn’t attack
my father in the press.
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Kimberly, the media
has taken away
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the presumption of innocence.
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I have to use the spotlight
to get it back.
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[reporters clamoring]
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I’ll be standing
right outside the door.
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‐You ready?
‐I think so.
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Remember, they’ll probably
introduce the pictures early.
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Look horrified to see them.
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The jury has to see
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that they shock you
like anybody else.
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Now, it’s not imperative
that you look,
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but I want you
in the room.
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I want the jury
to be reminded of your tragedy.
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Do we have to be here
for the whole trial?
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[John] I’d prefer it.
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Emotion cuts in our favor.
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I’ve got your parents,
a sister, your grandmother
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and an uncle you’ve never met.
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My family is coming?
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And for the purpose
of this trial,
you’re close knit.
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The jury
cannot see it otherwise.
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Well, how’d you
get ’em to show up?
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You’re their only son.
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Will they testify?
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Not a chance.
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If he puts up
any character witness,
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then we’re free to impeach
with our witnesses
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and I’ve got about 20.
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I even have a teenage girl
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that was threatened by him
at knife point two years ago.
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‐What?
‐[John] But I can’t use it.
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The law says that
we can’t talk about
previous bad acts
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to convince the jury
he did this one.
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Wait a second,
now this guy attacked
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another girl
with a knife
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and we can’t tell
the jury about it?
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That’s right.
But if they try to argue
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that he’s a good guy,
we can roll out
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our impeaching witnesses,
this girl included.
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See, Wambaugh knows that.
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He won’t put
this guy’s parents up
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or anybody to even
hint about his character.
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Then what’s our case?
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The state has the burden
to make the case.
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I just have
to shoot holes in it,
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and I will.
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The worst thing
is those pictures.
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[John] They’re some of the most
graphic images I’ve ever seen.
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I apologize
for having to show them to you.
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They’ll be difficult to look at,
but you must
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look at them.
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Now, the testimonial evidence
will show
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that Susan Engrams
was stabbed 11 times.
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But you cannot know
the violent savagery
unless you look.
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[man coughs]
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[audience and jury gasping]
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[audience murmuring]
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[woman and man gasp]
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The prosecution will show,
beyond all reasonable doubt,
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that the person responsible
for this repulsive carnage...
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is Brian Latham,
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the man sitting
right over there.
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That concludes
my opening statement.
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[Douglas clears throat]
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I would ask first...
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when you go home tonight,
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let us all say a prayer
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for Susan Engrams
and her family.
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Nobody here can feel their pain.
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This judicial proceeding
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can never make them whole.
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The prosecution
has laid a setting
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of a horrible tragedy.
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The savagery‐‐
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the defense
does not dispute this,
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but we do take issue
with their conclusion
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as to who is responsible.
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It wasn’t Brian Latham.
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When the prosecution
searched for a witness...
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they drew a blank.
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They looked for a motive,
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blank.
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They searched for a weapon,
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nothing.
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They combed my client’s
person and property
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for bloodstains
and forensic evidence...
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any evidence at all
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that would connect
Brian Latham to violence...
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Nothing.
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As to their efforts,
to find the person
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who really was responsible
for this murder...
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Mr. Littleton
has shown you the victim,
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I’ve shown you
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their case...
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Time of death, cause of death,
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absence of other hair
or fibers on the body,
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in the car or at the scene.
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‐Check.
‐And Carter, make sure
your voice works, okay?
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We’re not going to get
a conviction if you sound
like a damn chipmunk again.
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‐[makes wheezing sound]
‐Why are you so nervous?
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Because Wambaugh
opened great, that’s why.
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Then you go up,
you’re going to cover
all the prints, the tire tracks,
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the footprints and corroborate
the store owner’s statement.
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Then I put you up, Kenny,
you are critical.
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‐[Carter] ♪ Mi, mi, mi ♪
‐[Kenny] I’m ready.
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‐Carter!
‐[clears throat]
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His pointing you
to where the body was
is the lynchpin.
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Okay, his demeanor,
his look of contrition, guilt,
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his sense of wanting redemption
for a crime he knew
he committed,
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his feeling of remorse
for taking a human life‐‐
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these are the things
you saw in that cell.
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And these are the things
you must make that jury see.
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‐We’ve been over it.
‐[John] Okay.
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There’s one other thing
we’ve got to talk about.
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Now, I don’t mean
to be critical,
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but this is a reality
that we’re dealing with.
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The sheriff department
is perceived to be terrible
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and largely
that perception is accurate.
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Your investigational habits
are shoddy.
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There is a shocking lack
of professional credibility
in the personnel.
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Kenny, your intelligence
doesn’t translate.
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Juries tend to think of you
as simple.
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Officer Stewart,
you are thought of
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as intelligent and thorough,
but also erratic.
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And Carter,
where do I begin with you?
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‐[squeaky voice] Cheap shot.
‐What’s your point?
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‐[clears throat]
‐[John] My point is, every case
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I prosecute is hampered
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by the credibility
of this branch.
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Now, there are some pluses.
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The people know and trust you.
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And one of the reasons
I didn’t try to kick venue
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was because in another town,
potential jurors might
not extend
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the same personal trust
that comes from knowing you.
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They’d only focus on
the professional incompetence.
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We’re not incompetent.
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Look, I don’t mean
to attack you,
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but I have to make you aware
of this reality
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so that
you’re prepared to beat it.
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When you get up on that stand,
I want to see authority.
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Carter, you are
a great medical examiner,
make that jury know that.
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Kenny, you’re clear headed.
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Be precise and decisive when
you’re in that witness chair.
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A district attorney
can only play his hand
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and you people
are my hand.
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Now, I want that jury to know
that this son of a bitch
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is guilty because you know it.
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You three know it.
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[small grunt, clears throat]
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Hmm.
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[crickets chirping]
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[dog barking in distance]
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So, if you think he did it,
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then why are you helping him?
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You have to understand, Zach,
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even guilty defendants
are entitled
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to a defense
and a fair trial.
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Why?
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Well, you see, um...
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The State has to prove guilt
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before they can
lock somebody up.
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The defense attorneys
have to make sure
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that the burden of proof
is met in every case.
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It’s all about protecting
our system of justice.
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So, when defense attorneys
represent guilty people,
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they’re nevertheless
protecting the system.
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And by doing that,
the innocent are served.
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‐Do you understand?
‐No.
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You will
when you’re old enough.
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He killed somebody
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and you’re helping him.
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How old do I have to get?
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Wambaugh is using you.
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The jury knows
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the sheriff’s daughter
is sitting at the defense table.
250
00:12:50,478 --> 00:12:53,106
They probably know
you were friends Susan Engrams.
251
00:12:56,150 --> 00:12:57,318
You’re being used.
252
00:13:08,746 --> 00:13:10,623
The time of death
can’t be fixed positive
253
00:13:10,623 --> 00:13:12,208
since the decomposition process
254
00:13:12,208 --> 00:13:13,918
is affected by the body
being in water,
255
00:13:13,918 --> 00:13:17,046
the temperature of which
was 54 degrees Fahrenheit.
256
00:13:17,046 --> 00:13:19,841
But through forensics,
etymology,
257
00:13:19,841 --> 00:13:21,926
rigor mortis
and post mortem changes,
258
00:13:21,926 --> 00:13:24,679
I can fix death
between 1:00 and 4:00 a. m.
259
00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,306
‐Now, I should like
to explain‐‐
‐Objection!
260
00:13:27,432 --> 00:13:29,684
Too boring.
261
00:13:29,684 --> 00:13:31,436
We’ll agree that she died
between 1:00 and 4:00 a. m.
262
00:13:31,436 --> 00:13:33,938
So stipulated.
263
00:13:33,938 --> 00:13:36,524
Were you able to determine
the cause of death, Dr. Pike?
264
00:13:36,524 --> 00:13:37,608
[squeaky voice]
Yes, I was.
265
00:13:37,608 --> 00:13:39,402
[crowd murmuring]
266
00:13:39,402 --> 00:13:40,236
[clears throat]
Excuse me.
267
00:13:42,196 --> 00:13:43,990
[normal voice]
It was death by stabbing.
268
00:13:43,990 --> 00:13:45,742
The victim received
multiple wounds
269
00:13:45,742 --> 00:13:47,201
from a seven‐inch
serrated blade.
270
00:13:47,201 --> 00:13:48,661
The fatal blow,
being a stab wound
271
00:13:48,661 --> 00:13:50,371
to the heart itself.
272
00:13:50,371 --> 00:13:52,081
Now, I’d like
to show you a picture
273
00:13:52,081 --> 00:13:54,125
‐...of the victim‐‐
‐We’ll stipulate
274
00:13:54,125 --> 00:13:56,419
that the girl was killed
with a big knife.
275
00:13:56,419 --> 00:13:58,963
Uh, I would like
to be able to offer my evidence
276
00:13:58,963 --> 00:14:00,506
‐in a manner I’ve prepared‐‐
‐You just want to show
the pictures off
277
00:14:00,506 --> 00:14:02,467
‐to shock the jury.
‐I agree.
278
00:14:02,467 --> 00:14:03,509
Move on, Mr. Littleton.
279
00:14:05,428 --> 00:14:07,805
What about the severing
of the finger, Dr. Pike?
280
00:14:07,805 --> 00:14:08,806
Oh, yes.
281
00:14:11,976 --> 00:14:15,271
This appeared to be
a pre mortem incision.
282
00:14:15,271 --> 00:14:16,981
Judging on the cuts
on the dorsal side
283
00:14:16,981 --> 00:14:18,858
of the arms
and the palms,
284
00:14:18,858 --> 00:14:20,234
it appeared
the victim tried
285
00:14:20,234 --> 00:14:22,320
to defend herself
inside the car.
286
00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:23,988
It was during
the struggle that I think
287
00:14:23,988 --> 00:14:26,783
the middle left finger
was in fact severed.
288
00:14:26,783 --> 00:14:28,409
And is there anything else
289
00:14:28,409 --> 00:14:30,578
that these wounds told you,
Dr. Pike?
290
00:14:30,578 --> 00:14:32,330
Aside from the cause of death?
291
00:14:32,330 --> 00:14:33,998
Yes.
292
00:14:33,998 --> 00:14:35,708
This was
an extremely primal
293
00:14:35,708 --> 00:14:36,793
and brutal killing.
294
00:14:38,169 --> 00:14:39,087
This woman was butchered.
295
00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:43,216
It was the most
gruesome autopsy ever
296
00:14:43,216 --> 00:14:44,383
in my professional experience.
297
00:14:46,177 --> 00:14:47,303
[John] Thank you, Dr. Pike.
298
00:14:48,012 --> 00:14:49,263
Nothing further.
299
00:14:52,350 --> 00:14:54,477
Dr. Pike,
300
00:14:54,477 --> 00:14:57,230
do any
of your medical findings
301
00:14:57,230 --> 00:14:59,273
connect this crime
to Brian Latham?
302
00:15:00,691 --> 00:15:01,734
My medical findings?
303
00:15:04,612 --> 00:15:06,531
‐No.
‐Thank you.
304
00:15:09,659 --> 00:15:11,786
That’s the man all right,
he bought the beer
305
00:15:11,786 --> 00:15:13,496
and he got right into her car.
306
00:15:13,496 --> 00:15:16,874
‐What time was that, sir?
‐Uh, just after eleven.
307
00:15:16,874 --> 00:15:19,377
And when I closed up at 12:30,
308
00:15:19,377 --> 00:15:21,546
his truck was still parked
in my lot.
309
00:15:21,546 --> 00:15:24,549
And are you sure it was this man
and the victim, Susan Engrams?
310
00:15:27,635 --> 00:15:29,387
Positive.
311
00:15:29,387 --> 00:15:31,055
You said to the police,
312
00:15:31,055 --> 00:15:33,724
my client looked normal,
even friendly.
313
00:15:33,724 --> 00:15:35,601
Yes, I did.
314
00:15:35,601 --> 00:15:37,937
And after observing
my client’s behavior,
315
00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:39,647
you had no reason to think
316
00:15:39,647 --> 00:15:41,315
that Susan Engrams
was in danger, did you?
317
00:15:42,358 --> 00:15:44,277
Well, no.
318
00:15:44,277 --> 00:15:46,821
In fact,
you never called the police.
319
00:15:46,821 --> 00:15:48,656
Nothing seemed wrong,
is that correct?
320
00:15:50,408 --> 00:15:53,077
‐Yes, I guess that’s so.
‐Thank you, sir.
321
00:15:54,328 --> 00:15:55,204
Nothing further.
322
00:15:56,747 --> 00:15:57,623
You may step down.
323
00:16:01,919 --> 00:16:03,588
The People call Elaine LaFevre.
324
00:16:03,588 --> 00:16:06,007
‐[Douglas] Objection!
‐Sidebar.
325
00:16:12,638 --> 00:16:15,016
We’ve been through this,
she’s excluded.
326
00:16:15,016 --> 00:16:17,310
Just open the door on
character testimony, Your Honor.
327
00:16:17,310 --> 00:16:20,563
‐What?
‐He got Mr. Emmanuel to testify
328
00:16:20,563 --> 00:16:22,732
that the defendant
was normal and friendly,
329
00:16:22,732 --> 00:16:24,525
He put character into issue.
330
00:16:24,525 --> 00:16:27,069
He cross‐examined
on what Mr. Emmanuel saw.
331
00:16:27,069 --> 00:16:29,989
‐The witness is excluded.
‐It also goes to pattern,
Your Honor.
332
00:16:29,989 --> 00:16:32,909
‐This man attacked
this girl at knife point.
‐The witness is excluded.
333
00:16:32,909 --> 00:16:33,993
Damn it, Your Honor.
334
00:16:37,038 --> 00:16:38,372
I don’t think
you meant to do that.
335
00:16:40,082 --> 00:16:41,626
I’m trying to put on
a case here.
336
00:16:41,626 --> 00:16:43,753
Fine. Do it,
337
00:16:43,753 --> 00:16:46,255
but you can’t put
witnesses up to establish
338
00:16:46,255 --> 00:16:47,924
that the defendant
is a bad person.
339
00:16:49,842 --> 00:16:51,010
Now, get back.
340
00:16:59,602 --> 00:17:00,436
Does it bother you?
341
00:17:02,897 --> 00:17:04,857
We’re trying to free
a man who committed murder.
342
00:17:08,361 --> 00:17:09,904
He never told me he’s guilty.
343
00:17:10,988 --> 00:17:12,949
You never asked him.
344
00:17:12,949 --> 00:17:16,911
I know this may be
difficult to understand,
345
00:17:16,911 --> 00:17:19,830
but it would have been wrong
for me to ask.
346
00:17:19,830 --> 00:17:24,085
I did what a good
defense attorney
is supposed to do.
347
00:17:24,085 --> 00:17:26,629
And that’s what’s hard
to understand.
348
00:17:26,629 --> 00:17:30,007
That it’s proper procedure
for lawyers to navigate
around the truth.
349
00:17:30,007 --> 00:17:32,176
The system of justice, Kimberly,
350
00:17:32,176 --> 00:17:35,346
doesn’t always mean
that the players
should act justly.
351
00:17:35,346 --> 00:17:37,640
Take the LaFevre girl.
352
00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,934
When John Littleton
called her as a witness,
353
00:17:39,934 --> 00:17:44,021
yeah, he knew Judge Bone
would deny it.
354
00:17:44,021 --> 00:17:47,692
But by calling her, the jury
got to see that there was
somebody else
355
00:17:47,692 --> 00:17:49,569
who had something to say
for the prosecution.
356
00:17:51,654 --> 00:17:53,656
They get the impression
there’s more to tell
357
00:17:53,656 --> 00:17:55,032
than they’re being told.
358
00:17:55,032 --> 00:17:57,159
It’s cheating‐‐
359
00:17:57,159 --> 00:18:00,121
not much,
just a little sleight of hand.
360
00:18:00,121 --> 00:18:03,749
We all do it, ’cause we know
the other guys are gonna do it,
361
00:18:03,749 --> 00:18:05,084
and we don’t want them
to have the edge.
362
00:18:09,213 --> 00:18:11,716
Judge Bone was right.
It’s all about winning
and losing.
363
00:18:13,384 --> 00:18:15,344
Well, the truth
is supposed to be
364
00:18:15,344 --> 00:18:18,598
a product of
the adversary process,
365
00:18:18,598 --> 00:18:22,310
so yes, that means both sides
try to win at all costs.
366
00:18:24,854 --> 00:18:27,690
Even when it means we’re trying
to free a guilty killer.
367
00:18:28,983 --> 00:18:30,901
I try not to ask myself
368
00:18:30,901 --> 00:18:32,194
such tricky questions.
369
00:18:37,283 --> 00:18:39,452
All hair and fibers
found in the car
370
00:18:39,452 --> 00:18:41,787
belonged either to the victim,
371
00:18:41,787 --> 00:18:43,873
the victim’s family members
who also drove the car,
372
00:18:43,873 --> 00:18:45,082
or the defendant.
373
00:18:45,082 --> 00:18:47,835
‐The defendant?
‐Yes.
374
00:18:47,835 --> 00:18:52,006
Several strands of hair,
found on the victim,
or in her car,
375
00:18:52,006 --> 00:18:55,259
matched the samples taken
from Brian Latham.
376
00:18:55,259 --> 00:18:57,470
We also found
slight skin fragments,
377
00:18:57,470 --> 00:18:59,055
under her fingernails,
378
00:18:59,055 --> 00:19:00,681
that were
an identical genetic match
379
00:19:00,681 --> 00:19:01,974
with the defendant.
380
00:19:01,974 --> 00:19:03,517
Do you have
an established foundation
381
00:19:03,517 --> 00:19:05,603
for this witness
to give DNA evidence?
382
00:19:05,603 --> 00:19:08,147
In the spirit of cooperation,
383
00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:11,233
we’ll stipulate
that the hair, skin
and clothing fibers
384
00:19:11,233 --> 00:19:13,319
probably came from my client.
385
00:19:13,319 --> 00:19:15,905
Well, this all happened
during a brief wrestling match,
386
00:19:15,905 --> 00:19:18,199
where my client
unsuccessfully tried for sex.
387
00:19:18,199 --> 00:19:21,243
‐Move to strike.
‐Sustained.
388
00:19:21,243 --> 00:19:24,163
The jury will disregard
defense council’s
last statement.
389
00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:26,415
Move on.
390
00:19:26,415 --> 00:19:29,043
What other evidence
did you find, Deputy?
391
00:19:29,043 --> 00:19:30,836
[Maxine] The only tire tracks
leading to the pond
392
00:19:30,836 --> 00:19:33,214
were those
of the victim’s car,
393
00:19:33,214 --> 00:19:37,093
meaning, whoever committed
the murder, probably drove
394
00:19:37,093 --> 00:19:39,470
in the victim’s car
to the swamp,
395
00:19:39,470 --> 00:19:41,931
dumped the body,
then drove the car back
396
00:19:41,931 --> 00:19:45,685
to where it was discovered
the following morning
on Prospect Road.
397
00:19:45,685 --> 00:19:48,062
And did you find
any footprints
at the pond site?
398
00:19:48,062 --> 00:19:51,816
We did.
And they matched the shoes
399
00:19:51,816 --> 00:19:54,610
being worn by the defendant
at the time we arrested him.
400
00:19:54,610 --> 00:19:56,904
And were there
any other prints to suggest
401
00:19:56,904 --> 00:19:58,531
that someone else
had been around?
402
00:19:58,531 --> 00:20:00,366
No, they were not.
403
00:20:00,366 --> 00:20:02,076
And were there
any hairs or fibers
404
00:20:02,076 --> 00:20:04,328
found on the person
of the victim,
405
00:20:04,328 --> 00:20:06,914
that did not come from
either the victim
or the defendant?
406
00:20:08,207 --> 00:20:09,542
No, there were not.
407
00:20:11,335 --> 00:20:13,170
Thank you, Deputy.
I have nothing further.
408
00:20:19,093 --> 00:20:22,012
When you arrested my client,
409
00:20:22,012 --> 00:20:24,807
you checked his person,
his truck,
410
00:20:24,807 --> 00:20:27,476
and motel room
for physical evidence,
didn’t you?
411
00:20:27,476 --> 00:20:29,186
Yes.
412
00:20:29,186 --> 00:20:31,230
[Douglas]
Did you find any?
413
00:20:31,230 --> 00:20:33,691
‐No.
‐Nothing?
414
00:20:33,691 --> 00:20:36,152
Not even a spattering of blood?
415
00:20:36,152 --> 00:20:38,904
‐Not anything?
‐No.
416
00:20:38,904 --> 00:20:41,198
You never found a murder weapon?
417
00:20:41,198 --> 00:20:42,908
[Maxine] No, we did not.
418
00:20:42,908 --> 00:20:44,618
‐[Douglas] Eyewitnesses?
‐[Maxine] No.
419
00:20:45,995 --> 00:20:48,581
What a thing.
420
00:20:48,581 --> 00:20:50,458
Before Susan Engrams
left the house
421
00:20:50,458 --> 00:20:53,794
on the night of question,
do you know what happened?
422
00:20:53,794 --> 00:20:56,046
She was involved in
an argument with her parents.
423
00:20:56,046 --> 00:20:58,215
An angry argument,
according to the statement
424
00:20:58,215 --> 00:21:00,259
that they made to the police.
425
00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:02,261
And you say
you found their hair
426
00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:03,971
and fibers in her car?
427
00:21:03,971 --> 00:21:05,806
Maybe they found her
and killed her!
428
00:21:05,806 --> 00:21:07,141
‐[John] Objection.
‐Counsel.
429
00:21:07,141 --> 00:21:10,311
It’s just a theory, I know.
430
00:21:10,311 --> 00:21:13,355
Did you explore
this possibility,
Deputy Stewart?
431
00:21:13,355 --> 00:21:16,275
‐No, we did not.
‐Why not?
432
00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:18,569
There was no evidence
indicating
433
00:21:18,569 --> 00:21:20,237
any involvement
by the parents.
434
00:21:20,237 --> 00:21:22,198
You didn’t even consider
435
00:21:22,198 --> 00:21:24,575
that it could be anybody else,
did you, Deputy?
436
00:21:24,575 --> 00:21:27,912
All the evidence pointed to him.
437
00:21:27,912 --> 00:21:30,247
All the evidence
you bothered to collect.
438
00:21:32,166 --> 00:21:33,542
Under oath, Deputy Stewart,
439
00:21:33,542 --> 00:21:35,294
there’s been
a lot of public pressure
440
00:21:35,294 --> 00:21:37,797
for you to solve this crime,
hasn’t there?
441
00:21:37,797 --> 00:21:40,591
Public hysteria
does not compromise
our investigations.
442
00:21:40,591 --> 00:21:44,345
I again remind you
that you are under oath.
443
00:21:44,345 --> 00:21:47,181
When you interrogated
Brian Latham,
444
00:21:47,181 --> 00:21:49,975
did you say to him,
445
00:21:49,975 --> 00:21:51,894
"You won’t get a fair trial."
446
00:21:51,894 --> 00:21:55,231
"Somebody’s going to pay
for what happened to this girl."
447
00:21:55,231 --> 00:21:57,233
"If you’re the only suspect
we offer up,
448
00:21:57,233 --> 00:22:00,528
then it’ll be you, whether
you’re innocent or not."
449
00:22:04,657 --> 00:22:05,866
Did you say that, Deputy?
450
00:22:08,536 --> 00:22:11,789
That was in the context
of an interrogation.
451
00:22:11,789 --> 00:22:13,874
He told you he was innocent,
452
00:22:13,874 --> 00:22:16,293
and you responded,
"It doesn’t matter."
453
00:22:16,293 --> 00:22:18,254
Somebody has to be blamed.
454
00:22:18,254 --> 00:22:20,798
And then you said,
"We’re the cops."
455
00:22:20,798 --> 00:22:23,801
"We can do anything we want."
456
00:22:23,801 --> 00:22:27,012
[crowd murmuring]
457
00:22:27,012 --> 00:22:29,932
We were doing a "good cop,
bad cop" thing.
458
00:22:29,932 --> 00:22:31,392
You said it, didn’t you?
459
00:22:33,018 --> 00:22:35,771
Yes, but
you don’t understand...
460
00:22:35,771 --> 00:22:37,731
[Douglas] Thank you...
461
00:22:37,731 --> 00:22:39,024
but I think I do.
462
00:22:58,210 --> 00:23:01,630
I just, I can’t take this,
I just cannot take this anymore.
463
00:23:03,340 --> 00:23:05,342
First, you violate
the constitution.
464
00:23:05,342 --> 00:23:06,635
Now, the case
should have been kicked
465
00:23:06,635 --> 00:23:08,804
on that screw up,
and now this?
466
00:23:08,804 --> 00:23:11,932
I, I cannot take... [sighs]
467
00:23:11,932 --> 00:23:14,560
You tell the defendant
that he will not get
a fair trial,
468
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,061
it doesn’t matter
if he’s innocent or not,
469
00:23:16,061 --> 00:23:17,771
the jury’s
gonna convict him anyway?
470
00:23:17,771 --> 00:23:21,442
‐It was a tactic.
‐A tactic?
471
00:23:21,442 --> 00:23:24,945
It was a tac‐‐
Oh, it was a tactic.
472
00:23:24,945 --> 00:23:27,781
We dispense
with the constitution
as a tactic?
473
00:23:27,781 --> 00:23:30,200
We threaten unfair trials
as a tactic?
474
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,328
These are the tactics
of the Rome, Wisconsin
Sheriffs Department.
475
00:23:32,328 --> 00:23:34,496
‐I have had it!
‐John‐‐
476
00:23:34,496 --> 00:23:38,208
No! A killer’s gonna walk,
Sheriff, don’t defend them.
477
00:23:38,208 --> 00:23:40,669
Take responsibility.
478
00:23:40,669 --> 00:23:42,630
Their behavior
is a reflection on you
479
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:45,132
and right now, your whole
damn department’s a joke.
480
00:23:45,132 --> 00:23:47,176
I’m a joke.
481
00:23:47,176 --> 00:23:50,054
We are the team responsible
for letting a murderer walk.
482
00:23:51,805 --> 00:23:53,432
Turn on
the newscast tomorrow night,
483
00:23:53,432 --> 00:23:54,683
and just listen to what
all the commentators
484
00:23:54,683 --> 00:23:56,268
are saying about all of us.
485
00:23:56,268 --> 00:23:58,437
And if that doesn’t
sink in, try,
486
00:23:58,437 --> 00:24:01,565
just try making eye contact
with Susan Engrams’ parents.
487
00:24:01,565 --> 00:24:04,068
Their daughter
was chopped into pieces
488
00:24:04,068 --> 00:24:05,402
and the man who’s responsible
is going to go free
489
00:24:05,402 --> 00:24:07,446
because of our incompetence.
490
00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:09,657
This isn’t over yet,
there’s still Kenny’s testimony.
491
00:24:09,657 --> 00:24:13,118
[scoffs] Imagine
the confidence I get from that.
492
00:24:13,118 --> 00:24:14,411
Nothing is helped by this.
493
00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:19,041
Deputy Lacos, tomorrow,
494
00:24:19,041 --> 00:24:21,251
tomorrow I put the whole
prosecution in your hands.
495
00:24:29,802 --> 00:24:31,428
[indistinct chatter]
496
00:24:37,142 --> 00:24:40,312
Unexpected surprises
are the best.
497
00:24:40,312 --> 00:24:42,439
Not to me. Get out.
498
00:24:42,439 --> 00:24:44,483
You’re a character.
499
00:24:44,483 --> 00:24:47,528
I’m also the judge
in the case you’re trying.
500
00:24:47,528 --> 00:24:49,279
Don’t you know what ex parte is?
501
00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:51,073
Of course I do, it’s Latin.
502
00:24:51,073 --> 00:24:52,533
But when I saw you eating,
503
00:24:52,533 --> 00:24:54,368
I thought you might
want company.
504
00:24:54,368 --> 00:24:56,829
‐Social.
‐Wrong again. Get out.
505
00:24:57,913 --> 00:25:00,040
You know, Henry,
506
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,836
not to discuss facts,
because I know I cannot do that,
507
00:25:03,836 --> 00:25:06,130
but what a cross I had today.
508
00:25:06,130 --> 00:25:08,882
With Max on the stand,
any lawyer could only hope
509
00:25:08,882 --> 00:25:11,176
to have one cross in a career.
510
00:25:11,176 --> 00:25:12,553
I could actually
get this guy off.
511
00:25:14,013 --> 00:25:14,972
You must be very proud.
512
00:25:16,473 --> 00:25:19,184
Back when I started practice,
513
00:25:19,184 --> 00:25:22,021
I would actually get aroused
by success in the courtroom.
514
00:25:23,355 --> 00:25:25,065
Sexually stimulated.
515
00:25:25,065 --> 00:25:26,692
Uh, not a lot, but a little.
516
00:25:29,319 --> 00:25:31,155
I’m so happy
you’re sharing this.
517
00:25:31,155 --> 00:25:34,533
This all happened
when I was in my 20s.
518
00:25:34,533 --> 00:25:36,660
I’ve won a lot of cases
since then.
519
00:25:36,660 --> 00:25:38,579
It’s become routine.
520
00:25:38,579 --> 00:25:41,915
But today when I crossed Max...
521
00:25:41,915 --> 00:25:43,709
And when she admitted
to those things
522
00:25:43,709 --> 00:25:46,253
that she said
in the interrogation,
523
00:25:46,253 --> 00:25:48,255
what a rush.
524
00:25:48,255 --> 00:25:51,467
I felt a little tingle,
not much,
525
00:25:51,467 --> 00:25:52,342
just a little.
526
00:25:53,427 --> 00:25:54,970
I had a moment, Henry.
527
00:25:57,931 --> 00:26:00,642
[clears throat]
528
00:26:00,642 --> 00:26:03,145
You must admit that
the practice of law
529
00:26:03,145 --> 00:26:05,522
can be
a very gratifying thing.
530
00:26:17,993 --> 00:26:19,620
Boy, do I need a housekeeper.
531
00:26:25,501 --> 00:26:28,420
‐The boys gone?
‐Yeah, they left early,
they wanted to walk.
532
00:26:33,258 --> 00:26:35,010
[Jimmy] Shouldn’t you be going
to school?
533
00:26:35,010 --> 00:26:36,386
[Kimberly] I’m in court,
the teachers know.
534
00:26:37,888 --> 00:26:40,140
You shouldn’t miss a whole week.
535
00:26:40,140 --> 00:26:42,309
What’s the problem, Daddy?
536
00:26:42,309 --> 00:26:44,770
You don’t want me sitting
at Wambaugh’s table, I get it.
537
00:26:44,770 --> 00:26:46,939
But don’t come at me sideways
with the school thing.
538
00:26:46,939 --> 00:26:49,691
Don’t talk to me with that tone.
539
00:26:49,691 --> 00:26:51,527
‐My tone is honest.
‐All right.
540
00:26:51,527 --> 00:26:53,445
You want me out
of that courtroom
541
00:26:53,445 --> 00:26:56,198
so the jury might think
that I abandoned the defense.
542
00:26:56,198 --> 00:26:58,659
So, how about this, Daddy,
how about I go to court,
543
00:26:58,659 --> 00:27:01,161
announce Brian Latham is guilty
and then I’ll go to school?
544
00:27:01,161 --> 00:27:02,704
‐I told you to drop that tone.
‐I’m...
545
00:27:02,704 --> 00:27:04,581
‐I think maybe...
‐What about your tone all week?
546
00:27:04,581 --> 00:27:06,834
I never even look at you,
much less talk to you.
547
00:27:06,834 --> 00:27:08,168
‐Jimmy...
‐I’m an adult now,
I don’t need...
548
00:27:08,168 --> 00:27:09,878
Maybe you’re
a little sensitive
549
00:27:09,878 --> 00:27:11,839
because you are ashamed
of what you are doing.
550
00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:13,549
You should be ashamed of trying
to take advantage of me.
551
00:27:13,549 --> 00:27:15,551
I am ashamed,
I’m ashamed of my daughter.
552
00:27:15,551 --> 00:27:16,885
‐Jimmy!
‐You go to hell!
553
00:27:19,304 --> 00:27:21,223
[door slams]
554
00:27:21,223 --> 00:27:23,517
I knew he believed in God.
555
00:27:23,517 --> 00:27:26,311
And I asked him
as a believer in God,
556
00:27:26,311 --> 00:27:29,606
as a believer that every
Christian deserves
a proper burial,
557
00:27:29,606 --> 00:27:31,483
I asked him to tell me
where that body lay.
558
00:27:31,483 --> 00:27:33,569
And his response?
559
00:27:33,569 --> 00:27:35,529
At first, he just looked down.
560
00:27:35,529 --> 00:27:37,990
So, I asked him
to think about her parents.
561
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:40,117
I asked him
to make things right.
562
00:27:40,117 --> 00:27:43,996
I asked him again,
make things right.
563
00:27:43,996 --> 00:27:45,622
That’s when he told me.
564
00:27:45,622 --> 00:27:48,458
‐[John] Told you where to look?
‐[Kenny] Exactly.
565
00:27:48,458 --> 00:27:51,336
We then proceeded
to the destination
and retrieved the corpse.
566
00:27:51,336 --> 00:27:55,591
And did Brian Latham
admit to killing Susan Engrams?
567
00:27:55,591 --> 00:27:59,553
He didn’t say it in words,
but he made it clear.
568
00:27:59,553 --> 00:28:01,096
He put that girl in the swamp.
569
00:28:03,056 --> 00:28:04,266
[John]
Thank you, Deputy.
570
00:28:04,266 --> 00:28:05,225
I have nothing further.
571
00:28:08,562 --> 00:28:10,355
Are you a mind reader, Kenny?
572
00:28:10,355 --> 00:28:12,316
[Kenny]
No, sir, I’m not.
573
00:28:12,316 --> 00:28:14,067
Yet you say that my client
574
00:28:14,067 --> 00:28:16,653
made something clear
without words.
575
00:28:16,653 --> 00:28:19,114
What’d you do, play charades?
576
00:28:19,114 --> 00:28:21,241
All I can say, Counsel,
577
00:28:21,241 --> 00:28:23,327
‐is that communication
isn’t limited to words.
‐Perhaps...
578
00:28:23,327 --> 00:28:24,703
May I finish
my response, please?
579
00:28:24,703 --> 00:28:26,288
‐No.
‐[Henry] Yes.
580
00:28:27,372 --> 00:28:28,248
Go ahead.
581
00:28:30,167 --> 00:28:32,419
He was careful
not to say it exactly,
582
00:28:32,419 --> 00:28:34,212
but I was in that room‐‐
583
00:28:34,212 --> 00:28:36,423
eye to eye,
we looked at each other,
584
00:28:36,423 --> 00:28:38,800
Catholic to Catholic,
585
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,511
we knew we had
to face the truth,
586
00:28:41,511 --> 00:28:43,263
and he told me
where the body was.
587
00:28:43,263 --> 00:28:45,766
He was admitting to me
that he killed her.
588
00:28:45,766 --> 00:28:48,727
Did he say it with words? No.
589
00:28:48,727 --> 00:28:51,688
Did he say it? Yes, he did.
590
00:28:51,688 --> 00:28:54,024
So, we have to assume
591
00:28:54,024 --> 00:28:56,610
the body language skills
of Kenny Lacos.
592
00:28:56,610 --> 00:28:58,695
I was the only person
in the room with him.
593
00:28:58,695 --> 00:29:01,281
You can’t contradict me,
because you weren’t there.
594
00:29:01,281 --> 00:29:03,951
And I’m telling you,
and everybody in this room,
595
00:29:03,951 --> 00:29:05,702
that man killed Susan Engrams.
596
00:29:05,702 --> 00:29:08,163
‐[Douglas] Objection.
‐[Henry] Sustained.
597
00:29:08,163 --> 00:29:09,748
That remark is stricken.
598
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:11,124
Any more questions,
Mr. Wambaugh?
599
00:29:11,124 --> 00:29:13,585
No, Your Honor,
nothing further.
600
00:29:15,045 --> 00:29:15,879
The witness may step down.
601
00:29:27,432 --> 00:29:29,518
We just got hurt,
Kenny was good.
602
00:29:31,228 --> 00:29:32,437
So, what happens now?
603
00:29:32,437 --> 00:29:34,564
I think we’ve got to testify.
604
00:29:34,564 --> 00:29:37,359
Now, you listen to me
very carefully, Mr. Latham.
605
00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:39,861
Your life depends on it.
606
00:29:39,861 --> 00:29:43,699
Follow this‐‐
if you don’t testify,
we will lose.
607
00:29:43,699 --> 00:29:47,035
Now, that’s simple,
here’s where it’s complicated.
608
00:29:47,035 --> 00:29:49,246
As your lawyer,
I have an obligation
609
00:29:49,246 --> 00:29:51,873
to say that
you must tell the truth.
610
00:29:51,873 --> 00:29:54,459
If I know
you’re going to lie,
611
00:29:54,459 --> 00:29:57,421
I have a duty to either
not put you up there,
612
00:29:57,421 --> 00:30:00,382
or to let you testify
to the narrative only.
613
00:30:00,382 --> 00:30:03,093
In which case
the jury will figure things out.
614
00:30:03,093 --> 00:30:05,220
The best thing
would be, of course,
615
00:30:05,220 --> 00:30:07,806
is for me to believe that
you didn’t kill Susan Engrams.
616
00:30:07,806 --> 00:30:11,268
Then I would have
no ethical problem
putting you on the stand.
617
00:30:11,268 --> 00:30:12,978
‐Are you with me?
‐I think so.
618
00:30:15,022 --> 00:30:17,816
So, I am now going to ask you
for the first time,
619
00:30:17,816 --> 00:30:19,443
did you kill Susan Engrams?
620
00:30:21,653 --> 00:30:23,905
No, I did not.
621
00:30:23,905 --> 00:30:26,450
Excellent. Now, here
are the problem areas
622
00:30:26,450 --> 00:30:29,453
you must explore. Kimberly?
623
00:30:29,453 --> 00:30:31,705
Fragments of your skin
found under her fingernails.
624
00:30:31,705 --> 00:30:33,373
You said
you briefly wrestled with her,
625
00:30:33,373 --> 00:30:35,083
a little sexual foreplay.
626
00:30:35,083 --> 00:30:38,587
Uh, perhaps it got rough
and she scratched you.
627
00:30:38,587 --> 00:30:40,797
I don’t know,
it’s for you to think about.
628
00:30:40,797 --> 00:30:42,758
Kimberly?
629
00:30:42,758 --> 00:30:45,844
Your footprints at the scene,
your knowing where the body was.
630
00:30:45,844 --> 00:30:48,013
[Douglas]
That’s their whole case.
631
00:30:48,013 --> 00:30:51,433
If you can satisfy
these questions,
we still have a chance.
632
00:30:51,433 --> 00:30:53,643
Remember, you have
an obligation
633
00:30:53,643 --> 00:30:56,271
to tell the truth at all times,
of course.
634
00:30:56,271 --> 00:30:57,481
Of course.
635
00:30:57,481 --> 00:31:00,358
Very important.
636
00:31:00,358 --> 00:31:03,278
If Mr. Littleton
traps you on cross,
637
00:31:03,278 --> 00:31:06,031
if he catches you
in any misstatement,
638
00:31:06,031 --> 00:31:08,200
it’s probably because
this whole thing
639
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,036
is so upsetting
that you get confused.
640
00:31:11,036 --> 00:31:14,581
Heh. Imagine being accused
of such a horrible crime.
641
00:31:14,581 --> 00:31:16,416
Whose mind wouldn’t be affected?
642
00:31:16,416 --> 00:31:19,002
‐I got you.
‐Good.
643
00:31:19,002 --> 00:31:22,714
So tell me, what happened
after the two of you
left the store?
644
00:31:25,008 --> 00:31:27,636
At first, we just drove around
drinking the beer.
645
00:31:27,636 --> 00:31:30,013
We actually drove down
to the pond for a little bit.
646
00:31:30,013 --> 00:31:31,723
I got out and looked around.
647
00:31:31,723 --> 00:31:33,850
[Douglas]
You went to the pond?
648
00:31:33,850 --> 00:31:37,604
Just for a few minutes,
she said it was
her favorite place.
649
00:31:37,604 --> 00:31:39,564
The we went driving around
some more
650
00:31:39,564 --> 00:31:41,441
and pulled over
on a dirt road.
651
00:31:41,441 --> 00:31:43,360
And what happened there?
652
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,779
Well, we finished the beer
653
00:31:45,779 --> 00:31:48,031
and we started to kiss
a little bit.
654
00:31:48,031 --> 00:31:51,535
‐Then, things kind of heated up.
‐How?
655
00:31:51,535 --> 00:31:53,537
[Brian] Well, the kissing
got a little bit
more passionate.
656
00:31:53,537 --> 00:31:54,996
And I, uh...
657
00:31:57,165 --> 00:31:59,876
You know, touched
her breasts and buttocks.
658
00:31:59,876 --> 00:32:02,129
And this was all consensual?
659
00:32:02,129 --> 00:32:04,047
[Brian] Completely.
660
00:32:04,047 --> 00:32:05,799
And then I kind of tried
to take her pants off
661
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:07,008
and we wrestled a little.
662
00:32:09,845 --> 00:32:11,429
She kind of scratched me.
663
00:32:11,429 --> 00:32:14,724
‐She scratched you?
‐[Brian] Yes.
664
00:32:14,724 --> 00:32:17,644
She said she didn’t want to go
any further so we stopped.
665
00:32:17,644 --> 00:32:19,312
[Douglas] And then what?
666
00:32:19,312 --> 00:32:20,814
Then she drove me
back down to the store,
667
00:32:20,814 --> 00:32:22,023
probably around two.
668
00:32:23,942 --> 00:32:27,404
I got out, got in my truck
and drove home.
669
00:32:27,404 --> 00:32:28,405
That was the last I saw her.
670
00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:31,783
[Douglas] Well, Brian,
671
00:32:31,783 --> 00:32:34,244
how did you know
where the body was?
672
00:32:34,244 --> 00:32:36,705
I didn’t know.
673
00:32:36,705 --> 00:32:40,083
Deputy Lacos kept pressing me
for places to look.
674
00:32:40,083 --> 00:32:42,836
She had said that the pond
was one of her favorite places.
675
00:32:42,836 --> 00:32:46,214
And, uh, I kind of directed him
to look there.
676
00:32:46,214 --> 00:32:48,341
I didn’t know.
677
00:32:48,341 --> 00:32:49,509
I was‐‐
I was just trying to help.
678
00:32:51,928 --> 00:32:52,804
You were just trying to help?
679
00:32:54,472 --> 00:32:56,641
Tell me something, Mr. Latham,
680
00:32:56,641 --> 00:32:58,935
why didn’t you tell the police
you’d been to the pond?
681
00:32:58,935 --> 00:33:01,855
As they brought me in,
my lawyer instructed me
to tell them nothing.
682
00:33:01,855 --> 00:33:04,107
But you went on to say a lot.
683
00:33:04,107 --> 00:33:06,735
Well, once they said
I was a suspect,
684
00:33:06,735 --> 00:33:09,029
I certainly told them
all that I thought was relevant.
685
00:33:09,029 --> 00:33:12,199
That I’d been kissing her,
and that we were together.
686
00:33:12,199 --> 00:33:14,784
I didn’t think that the pond
was really relevant
at that point.
687
00:33:14,784 --> 00:33:17,495
But at some point,
you changed your mind
about that?
688
00:33:17,495 --> 00:33:20,624
Well, when she didn’t turn up
689
00:33:20,624 --> 00:33:22,500
I remembered her telling me
690
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:24,920
that the pond was
her favorite place.
691
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,172
So, I thought maybe
she went back there
692
00:33:27,172 --> 00:33:29,925
and maybe something
happened to her there,
but I didn’t do it.
693
00:33:29,925 --> 00:33:32,427
Yeah, you keep saying that.
694
00:33:32,427 --> 00:33:34,930
Is there anybody
who can verify the time
695
00:33:34,930 --> 00:33:36,514
that you got back
to your motel that night?
696
00:33:36,514 --> 00:33:38,141
I don’t know, it’s your job
697
00:33:38,141 --> 00:33:39,935
to collect evidence,
not mine, sir.
698
00:33:39,935 --> 00:33:42,562
Thank you.
699
00:33:42,562 --> 00:33:44,189
And isn’t it funny
how all the evidence
700
00:33:44,189 --> 00:33:46,942
we did collect points
right at you?
701
00:33:46,942 --> 00:33:50,612
And isn’t it strange
that you knew exactly where
that body could be found?
702
00:33:50,612 --> 00:33:52,113
But you say you didn’t do it,
so I guess
703
00:33:52,113 --> 00:33:55,492
it’s our evidence
versus your credibility.
704
00:33:55,492 --> 00:33:56,910
Have you ever been convicted
of a crime?
705
00:33:58,995 --> 00:34:00,288
[John] I asked you
a question, sir.
706
00:34:03,375 --> 00:34:05,502
‐Breaking and entering.
‐How many times?
707
00:34:05,502 --> 00:34:06,419
Twice.
708
00:34:07,879 --> 00:34:09,881
You’re a convicted felon.
709
00:34:09,881 --> 00:34:12,259
‐[crowd murmuring]
‐So, can we both agree
710
00:34:12,259 --> 00:34:14,261
that when this jury
goes back to deliberate,
711
00:34:14,261 --> 00:34:16,137
that it should turn
on your credibility?
712
00:34:16,137 --> 00:34:18,348
‐[Douglas] Objection.
‐[Henry] Sustained.
713
00:34:18,348 --> 00:34:19,266
One last thing.
714
00:34:21,017 --> 00:34:23,728
You said when it became clear
715
00:34:23,728 --> 00:34:26,398
that the girl couldn’t be found
716
00:34:26,398 --> 00:34:28,900
you directed Kenny to the pond.
717
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:32,070
But when the police
first brought you in,
they made it clear
718
00:34:32,070 --> 00:34:33,697
that Susan Engrams was missing.
719
00:34:35,699 --> 00:34:37,742
Why didn’t you tell them
about the pond then?
720
00:34:40,370 --> 00:34:42,414
I, uh, I forgot.
721
00:34:43,832 --> 00:34:45,083
You forgot?
722
00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:48,795
I was being accused
of a horrible crime.
723
00:34:50,338 --> 00:34:51,339
I was upset.
724
00:34:53,174 --> 00:34:54,509
[Brian]
Can you imagine being told
725
00:34:54,509 --> 00:34:55,510
you’re a murder suspect?
726
00:34:57,679 --> 00:34:58,888
I was in shock.
727
00:35:00,056 --> 00:35:01,391
Yeah, I bet you were.
728
00:35:03,101 --> 00:35:04,060
I’m done with this witness.
729
00:35:06,271 --> 00:35:07,188
[Henry] The witness
may step down.
730
00:35:10,066 --> 00:35:11,234
[crowd murmuring]
731
00:35:21,953 --> 00:35:24,831
There must be something
in the water in Rome, Wisconsin
732
00:35:24,831 --> 00:35:27,083
because things just seem
to keep happening there.
733
00:35:27,083 --> 00:35:29,252
And they happen fast.
734
00:35:29,252 --> 00:35:31,129
Today, the Brain Latham
murder trial
735
00:35:31,129 --> 00:35:32,881
is expected to go to the jury,
736
00:35:32,881 --> 00:35:35,175
just two weeks
after the defendant
737
00:35:35,175 --> 00:35:37,719
allegedly killed Susan Engrams.
738
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,013
You’ll remember
this is the same town
739
00:35:40,013 --> 00:35:42,682
where the mayor was convicted
of murder last year,
740
00:35:42,682 --> 00:35:45,226
only to be succeeded
by another mayor
741
00:35:45,226 --> 00:35:47,646
who was murdered‐‐
by his own son.
742
00:35:50,857 --> 00:35:54,235
‐Maybe we should move.
‐Just eat your cereal, Zach.
743
00:35:54,235 --> 00:35:56,571
I’m off to court,
anybody got a problem with that?
744
00:35:58,698 --> 00:36:00,533
No.
745
00:36:00,533 --> 00:36:01,701
Not at all.
746
00:36:01,701 --> 00:36:02,661
Good.
747
00:36:05,747 --> 00:36:08,708
We all want to believe
748
00:36:08,708 --> 00:36:11,169
he’s the guy.
749
00:36:11,169 --> 00:36:13,046
We’re desperate to believe it
750
00:36:13,046 --> 00:36:15,715
because then
we could fix things.
751
00:36:15,715 --> 00:36:18,009
We’d find him guilty,
get him off the street,
752
00:36:18,009 --> 00:36:19,552
go back to feeling safe
753
00:36:19,552 --> 00:36:22,180
and sitting
on our front porches.
754
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:25,225
The facts, they’re pretty good.
755
00:36:25,225 --> 00:36:29,104
He was last seen with her,
his footprints were at the pond
756
00:36:29,104 --> 00:36:31,690
and he knew where the body was.
757
00:36:31,690 --> 00:36:34,275
Now you could take
the circumstantial evidence,
758
00:36:34,275 --> 00:36:36,194
combine it with your fear
and desperation
759
00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:38,738
and fudge a conviction.
760
00:36:38,738 --> 00:36:40,865
The town will probably
be grateful to you.
761
00:36:43,660 --> 00:36:46,454
But I bet that
there are a few of you
762
00:36:46,454 --> 00:36:50,417
who are afraid of condemning
an innocent man.
763
00:36:50,417 --> 00:36:54,003
Maybe some of you take seriously
the obligation
764
00:36:54,003 --> 00:36:56,881
to find guilt beyond
a reasonable doubt.
765
00:36:58,633 --> 00:37:00,260
Then, you’ve got trouble.
766
00:37:03,304 --> 00:37:05,390
He drove to the pond with her,
767
00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:07,142
then to a road side
where they kissed a little
768
00:37:07,142 --> 00:37:08,852
and wrestled some.
769
00:37:08,852 --> 00:37:11,730
That explains
all the physical evidence‐‐
770
00:37:11,730 --> 00:37:15,316
the hairs, the fibers,
the footprints.
771
00:37:15,316 --> 00:37:18,820
His knowledge that she liked
the pond, that explains it all.
772
00:37:20,905 --> 00:37:22,657
No weapon.
773
00:37:23,199 --> 00:37:25,827
No witnesses.
774
00:37:25,827 --> 00:37:28,037
No blood on my client
or his possessions.
775
00:37:28,037 --> 00:37:30,206
Nothing even microscopic.
776
00:37:31,708 --> 00:37:33,251
How is that possible?
777
00:37:33,251 --> 00:37:35,503
There would have to be
a small spattering
778
00:37:35,503 --> 00:37:37,005
of blood somewhere.
779
00:37:37,005 --> 00:37:40,049
Simple answer‐‐
780
00:37:40,049 --> 00:37:41,384
he didn’t do it.
781
00:37:42,969 --> 00:37:46,848
Brian Latham is innocent.
782
00:37:46,848 --> 00:37:48,850
And even if you hate
the thought of it,
783
00:37:48,850 --> 00:37:51,186
you at least have to admit
the possibility.
784
00:37:51,186 --> 00:37:53,772
It’s at least possible
785
00:37:53,772 --> 00:37:55,899
somebody came after Brain left
786
00:37:55,899 --> 00:37:57,942
and killed Susan Engrams.
787
00:37:59,569 --> 00:38:01,321
Deputy Stewart testified
788
00:38:01,321 --> 00:38:03,239
that they didn’t even look
for anybody else.
789
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,493
They didn’t even investigate it.
790
00:38:06,493 --> 00:38:08,787
They were confident
that you would convict
791
00:38:08,787 --> 00:38:10,747
whoever they would
throw up for sacrifice.
792
00:38:12,081 --> 00:38:14,083
So, what do you do?
793
00:38:14,083 --> 00:38:16,377
I could ask you to go back
to that room
794
00:38:16,377 --> 00:38:19,130
and do right
by Brain Latham.
795
00:38:19,130 --> 00:38:22,133
I could ask you to do right
by the system.
796
00:38:22,133 --> 00:38:25,720
Instead, I’ll only ask you
to do right by yourselves.
797
00:38:27,847 --> 00:38:30,934
You all know
there’s reasonable doubt.
798
00:38:30,934 --> 00:38:33,812
You can’t not know it.
799
00:38:33,812 --> 00:38:38,274
So all I ask is that
when you come back out
of that jury room,
800
00:38:38,274 --> 00:38:41,194
come out
with your integrity intact.
801
00:38:43,196 --> 00:38:46,199
Come out with a verdict
802
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:47,867
of not guilty.
803
00:38:47,867 --> 00:38:49,619
He’s right, not guilty.
804
00:38:49,619 --> 00:38:54,457
‐[boy] Come on!
‐[all arguing]
805
00:38:54,457 --> 00:38:55,542
[Henry] Mr. Littleton.
806
00:38:57,961 --> 00:38:59,420
[sighs] You’d better be good.
807
00:39:01,297 --> 00:39:04,008
Well, for once,
808
00:39:04,008 --> 00:39:04,843
I agree with him.
809
00:39:06,886 --> 00:39:10,348
This thing comes down
to your integrity.
810
00:39:10,348 --> 00:39:12,934
The last thing I do is ask you
to safeguard the system.
811
00:39:12,934 --> 00:39:16,020
The system today is perverted.
812
00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:18,773
Attorneys jockey
for positioning.
813
00:39:18,773 --> 00:39:22,110
We manipulate the press
for jury bias.
814
00:39:22,110 --> 00:39:26,114
We hire publicists to remake
criminals into victims.
815
00:39:26,114 --> 00:39:28,032
The truth?
816
00:39:28,032 --> 00:39:30,118
The truth is only relevant
if it supports our case.
817
00:39:32,412 --> 00:39:35,081
But this process still has
one redeeming exception
818
00:39:35,081 --> 00:39:37,500
that continues to make it
the best in the world.
819
00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:38,459
It’s called the jury.
820
00:39:40,879 --> 00:39:43,339
It’s made up of people
who, for the most part,
821
00:39:43,339 --> 00:39:46,759
still cling to the ideal
that it must be about truth.
822
00:39:48,344 --> 00:39:50,263
It may be diminishing,
823
00:39:50,263 --> 00:39:55,184
but many Americans are still
raised with a public conscience,
824
00:39:55,184 --> 00:39:58,396
an engrained sense of morality.
825
00:39:58,396 --> 00:40:01,274
And if we get enough
of people in this box,
826
00:40:01,274 --> 00:40:03,026
the system still works.
827
00:40:07,113 --> 00:40:09,782
I don’t know what we’ve got
in this box today.
828
00:40:09,782 --> 00:40:13,077
I do know you can go back
to that room,
829
00:40:13,077 --> 00:40:14,871
dissect all the semantics,
830
00:40:14,871 --> 00:40:16,998
play with the pieces
of evidence,
831
00:40:16,998 --> 00:40:19,375
consider all
the magical possibilities.
832
00:40:19,375 --> 00:40:22,003
You could stay back
in that room for a week.
833
00:40:22,003 --> 00:40:24,255
’Cause anything is possible.
834
00:40:24,255 --> 00:40:25,882
Anything can be doubted.
835
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:28,843
But reasonable doubt...
836
00:40:33,431 --> 00:40:36,309
Drifter with a criminal record.
837
00:40:36,309 --> 00:40:38,102
Last seen with her.
838
00:40:38,102 --> 00:40:40,730
Knows exactly
where the body was.
839
00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:42,231
His skin is under
her fingernails.
840
00:40:42,231 --> 00:40:44,233
Come on!
841
00:40:44,233 --> 00:40:46,319
He killed that girl.
842
00:40:46,319 --> 00:40:48,905
He lied up on that chair.
Everyone of us knows that.
843
00:40:50,865 --> 00:40:52,784
Now is it possible,
the things that he said?
844
00:40:52,784 --> 00:40:53,952
Of course.
845
00:40:53,952 --> 00:40:56,204
Is it conceivable
846
00:40:56,204 --> 00:40:58,581
that he forgot to mention
the pond to the police,
847
00:40:58,581 --> 00:41:00,959
but then remembered on the stand
with the help from his lawyer?
848
00:41:02,877 --> 00:41:05,338
Anything is conceivable,
849
00:41:05,338 --> 00:41:06,714
but that’s not what happened.
850
00:41:09,342 --> 00:41:11,219
You look each other in the eye
when you go back to that room.
851
00:41:11,219 --> 00:41:12,720
You know what happened.
852
00:41:16,182 --> 00:41:19,560
That man brutally stabbed
this girl to her death.
853
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:23,356
Their daughter, Susan Engrams.
854
00:41:26,901 --> 00:41:28,569
She’s gone.
855
00:41:31,197 --> 00:41:32,115
She’s gone forever.
856
00:41:36,661 --> 00:41:37,829
Do you people have
a conscience?
857
00:41:39,872 --> 00:41:42,083
A barometer of good and evil?
858
00:41:43,918 --> 00:41:46,045
Show me.
859
00:41:46,045 --> 00:41:47,422
Show this community.
860
00:41:47,422 --> 00:41:49,757
Show these parents,
861
00:41:49,757 --> 00:41:51,843
show them
862
00:41:51,843 --> 00:41:53,261
that the truth, in fact,
863
00:41:53,261 --> 00:41:55,013
does count more
than the contest.
864
00:41:58,141 --> 00:41:59,934
Like he said,
"Come out of that room
865
00:41:59,934 --> 00:42:01,644
with your integrity intact."
866
00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:12,071
[woman] I just need to make
a quick phone call.
867
00:42:12,071 --> 00:42:14,574
[indistinct chatter]
868
00:42:36,179 --> 00:42:37,805
When I said I was ashamed
of you...
869
00:42:40,516 --> 00:42:41,350
I didn’t mean it.
870
00:42:44,270 --> 00:42:47,315
I know.
871
00:42:47,315 --> 00:42:49,442
I think that law can be
a very noble profession...
872
00:42:52,612 --> 00:42:53,988
especially
if you’re part of it.
873
00:42:57,283 --> 00:42:59,452
You are an extraordinary
young woman, Kimberly.
874
00:43:02,205 --> 00:43:05,208
I’m just afraid that
875
00:43:05,208 --> 00:43:06,793
you’ll set your standards
by Wambaugh.
876
00:43:11,547 --> 00:43:12,840
That would be a shame.
877
00:43:24,644 --> 00:43:26,270
[bailiff]
The court will come to order.
878
00:43:59,095 --> 00:44:00,721
[Henry] Will the defendant
please rise?
879
00:44:04,225 --> 00:44:06,269
Madam Foreman,
has the jury reached a verdict?
880
00:44:07,603 --> 00:44:09,147
We have, Your Honor.
881
00:44:09,147 --> 00:44:11,023
What say you?
882
00:44:11,023 --> 00:44:13,568
In the matter of
"People versus Brian Latham",
883
00:44:13,568 --> 00:44:15,820
on the charge of murder
in the first degree,
884
00:44:15,820 --> 00:44:19,198
we find the defendant
guilty as charged.
885
00:44:19,198 --> 00:44:21,200
‐[people gasping]
‐[man] He got it.
886
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,120
[crowd murmuring]
887
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,539
Yes, damn it! Yes!
888
00:44:26,539 --> 00:44:29,250
[cheering and booing]
889
00:44:31,919 --> 00:44:33,754
[gavel bangs]
890
00:44:33,754 --> 00:44:36,507
Members of the jury,
thank you for your time.
891
00:44:36,507 --> 00:44:39,093
Your service is concluded.
This matter is adjourned.
892
00:44:41,179 --> 00:44:43,347
Bailiff, take
the defendant into custody.
893
00:44:43,347 --> 00:44:44,557
[gavel bangs]
894
00:44:55,776 --> 00:44:57,320
[female reporter]
Mr. Wambaugh, one question.
895
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:58,362
Mr. Latham,
do you have a statement?
896
00:45:01,365 --> 00:45:03,326
We’ll appeal.
I’ve already written the brief.
897
00:45:03,326 --> 00:45:05,286
Van’s waiting out back.
Let’s get him down.
898
00:45:05,286 --> 00:45:06,996
‐Deputy, one second.
‐Come on.
899
00:45:06,996 --> 00:45:09,123
One second, please.
900
00:45:09,123 --> 00:45:10,750
‐Alone.
‐Hold on.
901
00:45:12,501 --> 00:45:14,128
‐Make it quick.
‐It’s all over.
902
00:45:15,338 --> 00:45:16,214
Done.
903
00:45:18,674 --> 00:45:20,426
I’ve got no motive
to say anything to you.
904
00:45:20,426 --> 00:45:22,011
Say it fast.
905
00:45:22,011 --> 00:45:23,054
Truth time.
906
00:45:25,056 --> 00:45:26,599
Catholic to Catholic.
907
00:45:26,599 --> 00:45:27,725
Me to you.
908
00:45:31,562 --> 00:45:32,438
I didn’t do it.
909
00:45:35,316 --> 00:45:36,776
I’m going to jail forever.
910
00:45:39,612 --> 00:45:41,906
I know it. I’m convicted.
911
00:45:43,407 --> 00:45:44,408
But I’m innocent.
912
00:45:47,662 --> 00:45:48,746
[Maxine]
We gotta go. Come on.
913
00:46:09,475 --> 00:46:11,102
[theme music playing]
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