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There's a body
of Broad Street,
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was left outside
Carl Lowry's offices.
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The dentist who was booked
this morning
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for unholy amounts
of child porn?
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There are people out there
that can make
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children disappear just like...
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I'm just not willing to divulge
that information
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without court order.
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Welcome to the UK.
Sorry it's shit.
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He's been given
a pedicure.
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His feet are pristine.
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And I will love you,
whether you like it or not.
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They want our attention.
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Well, they've bloody
got it.
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What have you got there?
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Come here.
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Oh, dear...
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Shh, shh, shh, shh, shh...
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Leave it inland,
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so the foxes can have it
for tea.
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Go on.
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"And God shall right all sins...
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And there shall be no more
death...
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Nor crying,
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neither shall there be any
more pain."
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"And the sorrow
...
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You are safe Christ
who died,
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rose again, and lives
forevermore.
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In the name of the Father,
the Son,
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and the Holy Spirit."
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Amen.
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No toast?
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Hi, Uncle Lou.
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Ugh, no!
It's my morning off.
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I've got Jojo, remember?
Now, piss off.
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Uh, sorry, champ.
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Found another dead body.
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Oh my God, where?
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The warehouse at Filwood Green
business park.
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Thoughts?
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I'm thinkin' them.
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Right, I'm gonna need...
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I'm gonna need to shower,
if that's okay with you.
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You're lucky I'm in a hurry,
punk.
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-I'm watching you.
-Alex!
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Yell for Dad for me, please,
Jojo.
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Dad, Mum's going into work now!
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Well, you can't go in.
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Sorry to be the ghost of
Christmas shite.
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They've found a second body.
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Aw, man...
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Okay, well, Lou,
can't you take this one?
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He can't just take this one.
That's not how it works.
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This one, this meeting
this morning, Jeanette.
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I really need this.
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I mean, look at you, you're not
even dressed.
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Excellent choice of pajamas.
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Um, look, dead body trumps
meeting.
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Is it a serial killer?
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-No, Jojo...
-Potentially, yes.
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-Jeanette.
-What?
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You've gotta be more
mindful,
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he'll get nightmares again.
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Can you two just save
your divorce
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until after we put this mudder
behind bars, please?
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Well, okay, I can...
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-I can get changed.
-Please.
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Oh, no.
That's all wrong.
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Start again.
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A person I didn't
know had ripped me open,
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and I wanted it to go away,
not die.
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Just to never have existed at
all.
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I knew it was
irreversible.
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That no matter what I
did...
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It already existed in the world,
and it was too late.
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I suppose it was all
rather funny, in the end.
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What was?
What was funny?
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It wasn't a baby,
after all.
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Well, what was it?
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An egg.
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An egg in a onesie.
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And I cracked it.
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Now, it's not
rocket science.
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Bloody woman, I swear to
God...
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Morning.
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I've a question,
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did you move my handbag
from the table last night?
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-No.
-Mm.
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No, I wouldn't go near
your handbag.
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Come on, let's go.
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Did you mean to keep
this?
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It was weeks ago.
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Never mind.
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It's not normal to be
wetting the bed at your age.
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God.
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It's a similar bag.
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Looks like.
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Young male, similar injuries
as the first victim.
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Cuts and bruises.
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Has he been frozen?
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We have to confirm.
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-And his feet?
-Neat and tidy.
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Who owns this place?
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That guy.
David White, he's the owner.
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Okay.
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Mr. White?
My name is DCI Jeanette Kilburn.
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It's all good.
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Mr. White, if I could have a few
minutes of your time, please.
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-Yes, of course.
-Thank you.
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I've got a work experience lad
here,
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who's just found a dead body,
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and he's understandably
a bit shaken.
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But if you really can't wait...
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No, I really can't.
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-You okay?
-Yeah.
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When did you arrive this
morning?
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6:30, had a call from Simon here
on the way in.
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He was there first.
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Last night, what time did you
leave?
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Nine.
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There's no one here after me.
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Anything unusual, any people on
or around the premises
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-that normally aren't?
-No, nothing.
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Where were you last night?
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Well, I was at home,
I was workin' until late.
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Anyone here able to corroborate
that for you?
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Excuse me?
What, is, is, is this...?
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Do you happen to know
an individual called Carl Lowry?
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Well, what does it bloody matter
if I know him?
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Well, a dead body appears at
Carl's place of work,
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and the very next day,
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a dead body appears at
your place of work,
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and I'm just, you know, I...
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I wanna know why.
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Yeah, well, you and me both.
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Now, all I know is I've turned
up for work,
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there's a dead body on my site.
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We're shut down for production,
which is gonna set us back,
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and now I'm bein' accused of
murder.
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No, no one's accusing you of
murder, Mr. White.
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Well, you may as well have done.
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I do not like the insinuation.
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Now, if you require me further,
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I will come in with a lawyer
to the station.
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Thank you.
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Got clear shot of CCTV from
Broad Street.
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Halle-fuckin'-lujah.
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What have we got on him?
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Oh, no criminal record.
Self-made millionaire.
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Our boy's done well.
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Former butcher turned
entrepreneur.
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Supplies most of pork in
Somerset.
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So, if you got sausages this
side of the River Severn,
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-chances are they're one of his.
-That's disgusting.
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No, fiver says Lowry is
involved.
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Maybe, but keep an open mind.
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My guy, my guy, my guy.
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We're okay.
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Thank you.
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There.
Punch in.
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You see?
There's the bag.
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Where's he go after
that?
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Why are we assumin' that's
a man?
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I think that's a woman.
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You know, women can do anything
they set their minds to,
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-Jeanette.
-Thank you, Lou.
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The 21st century is
delighted you could join us.
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Where's he go after that?
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He heads down Tailor's Court.
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He dumps the bag.
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Then he goes
down to Broad Street.
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-Then we lose him.
-Shit.
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Do we have today's footage?
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-Yeah, yeah.
-Yeah?
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There we go.
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Jesus.
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Fuck me.
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That's deliberate and
orchestrated.
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They're talking to us.
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Yeah, but what is he saying?
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"I'm a cocky, murdering piece of
shit,
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come and arrest me."
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Very cocky.
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We need to be combing through
our databases.
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Repeat offenders.
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Be specific.
ABH, GBH?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All of them.
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Anyone who's been recently
released
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with violence on their record.
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What about their feet?
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UK-wide for any trophy hunters.
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Absolutely, yeah.
But why wash their feet?
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Well, I mean, it might be
out of respect.
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You know, someone doing
something nice for them?
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You know, John, chapter 13,
verse 14.
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"If I, your Lord and Teacher,
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has washed your feet,
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then you ought to wash one
another's feet."
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So, it's like
the ultimate deference.
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Didn't know you were religious,
Mike.
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I'm not.
My mom is, though.
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Church was intense.
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Respect...
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And if it is respect,
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it can't be the person doing
the killing
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that's dumping them.
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what do you want?
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Really?
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I think anybody who wants to
hurt anybody else is evil.
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And do you think Angela's evil,
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or do you think her actions
are evil?
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She tried to kill me.
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I know she's unhappy,
but I'm not.
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When I've spoken to Angela,
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she's made it very clear that
it's her own life
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she wishes to end.
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Her depression it's,
it's all-consuming.
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She's not currently able to
factor you into her thinking.
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I just want a normal life.
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Just want to live without...
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Angela?
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Am I speaking to Angela?
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It's me.
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Sophia.
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Angela...
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No, no, no, no.
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I don't wanna hurt anyone else.
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Just don't wanna be here
anymore.
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Can't do it.
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Can't.
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What, what can't you do?
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It's okay.
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It's okay.
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Here.
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Lidocaine,
it's a local anesthetic.
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It's not particularly powerful,
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and it has a relatively short
half-life.
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How is it used traditionally?
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Primarily pain management,
but that can come in all forms.
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So, minor surgeries.
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You get it in the cream that you
use on bites,
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if you're havin' a filling done,
that kind of thing.
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Could be a drug Carl Lowry uses
on the daily.
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Sorry, Eva, go on.
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Epidurals.
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But that is heavily controlled.
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This, this has been injected
straight into his bloodstream.
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It is the cause of death?
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Lidocaine is not powerful enough
to poison him,
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but you see here?
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There's a single puncture mark
on his wrist.
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It looks like a cannula.
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like he's been hooked up to
a bag.
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Whatever it was they were
drugging him for,
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they wanted him wide awake.
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So, quite possibly,
he's been tortured.
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Look, why don't I go through
what I've got?
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No obvious signs of
brain trauma.
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But that'll be sent off
for further testing.
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00:18:55,965 --> 00:18:59,241
Here, you can see
the shattered cheekbone.
261
00:19:00,103 --> 00:19:03,655
His knuckles,
they're shot to shit.
262
00:19:03,965 --> 00:19:06,517
Defensive wounds everywhere.
263
00:19:06,620 --> 00:19:08,724
And these,
these missing fingers,
264
00:19:09,517 --> 00:19:11,103
they've been bitten off.
265
00:19:13,517 --> 00:19:14,689
Can you age him?
266
00:19:14,827 --> 00:19:16,862
I put him about 17.
267
00:19:17,517 --> 00:19:19,758
Heritage unknown, as of yet.
268
00:19:19,862 --> 00:19:21,793
Has he been sexually assaulted?
269
00:19:24,275 --> 00:19:25,931
No evidence that
I can see,
270
00:19:26,034 --> 00:19:27,103
but we can't rule it out.
271
00:19:27,172 --> 00:19:28,413
Look, it's not Lowry's MO.
272
00:19:28,517 --> 00:19:32,517
He likes little girls,
no killin' young men.
273
00:19:32,620 --> 00:19:34,931
Did you know, Lou, that it's
possible to be into
274
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,517
two abhorrent things
at the same time?
275
00:19:37,620 --> 00:19:41,000
But the feet, the feet is where
it gets interesting.
276
00:19:41,965 --> 00:19:43,172
Pristine.
277
00:19:43,793 --> 00:19:46,689
Savlon on the cuts and
the blisters.
278
00:19:46,793 --> 00:19:49,206
His nails, they've been cleaned
and trimmed.
279
00:19:49,344 --> 00:19:51,068
It's very, very weird.
280
00:19:51,344 --> 00:19:54,034
And similarities with our guy
at the warehouse?
281
00:19:54,482 --> 00:19:58,034
Well, I mean, I obviously
haven't done the PM.
282
00:19:58,172 --> 00:20:00,172
Because he only came in
this morning,
283
00:20:00,275 --> 00:20:03,344
and if you recall,
I am not an actual wizard.
284
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,448
-Mm-hm.
-But I did manage to get
285
00:20:05,551 --> 00:20:07,172
bloods off to toxicology.
286
00:20:07,827 --> 00:20:09,103
Oh my God, have you?
287
00:20:09,655 --> 00:20:11,758
Tox shows lidocaine in both.
288
00:20:11,862 --> 00:20:12,655
-Yes!
-Ow!
289
00:20:12,758 --> 00:20:13,517
Yes.
290
00:20:13,655 --> 00:20:15,000
You know I didn't kill him,
right?
291
00:20:15,137 --> 00:20:16,655
Well, you know what, I'm gonna
get that interview today.
292
00:20:16,758 --> 00:20:17,965
I'm gonna get it.
293
00:20:18,034 --> 00:20:19,931
Eva, if you could get a wiggle
on the warehouse guy's PM,
294
00:20:20,034 --> 00:20:21,103
that would be much-appreciated.
295
00:20:21,206 --> 00:20:23,000
Now, did you schedule your party
in the end?
296
00:20:23,103 --> 00:20:24,275
Yes, tomorrow night.
297
00:20:24,379 --> 00:20:26,965
I booked out a karaoke booth
until late.
298
00:20:27,310 --> 00:20:28,172
You're not gonna believe this.
299
00:20:28,275 --> 00:20:29,862
Okay, but my son, Jojo,
300
00:20:29,965 --> 00:20:31,482
he does have
a football tournament
301
00:20:31,586 --> 00:20:32,965
-Tomorrow night.
-Oh, no, come on!
302
00:20:33,034 --> 00:20:34,965
-He does, it's the truth.
-No, no, no.
303
00:20:35,034 --> 00:20:35,965
It's the truth.
304
00:20:36,034 --> 00:20:37,172
That's a very
interesting time to schedule
305
00:20:37,275 --> 00:20:39,448
a children's
football tournament, no?
306
00:20:39,551 --> 00:20:40,758
Hm?
307
00:21:03,275 --> 00:21:04,931
I'm gonna phone that
woman again.
308
00:21:05,034 --> 00:21:06,103
-The psychiatrist?
-Yeah.
309
00:21:06,206 --> 00:21:08,413
Don't make things easy for
yourself, do you?
310
00:21:08,517 --> 00:21:09,620
No.
311
00:21:11,724 --> 00:21:12,620
Hello?
312
00:21:12,724 --> 00:21:14,551
Oh, hi, is this
Dr. Sophia Craven?
313
00:21:14,655 --> 00:21:15,655
Speaking.
314
00:21:15,758 --> 00:21:18,000
Yeah, this is
DCI Jeanette Kilburn.
315
00:21:18,103 --> 00:21:19,275
I was wonderin' if you were at
316
00:21:19,379 --> 00:21:20,758
liberty at all to discuss
Carl Lowry?
317
00:21:20,862 --> 00:21:22,379
I have a client
soon, but a quick coffee?
318
00:21:22,448 --> 00:21:23,793
No, no, no, no, that's great.
319
00:21:23,896 --> 00:21:24,793
I'll text you the
address.
320
00:21:24,896 --> 00:21:25,931
Yeah, I can be there straight
away.
321
00:21:26,068 --> 00:21:27,482
-Great.
-Yeah, okay, listen,
322
00:21:27,586 --> 00:21:28,517
I can't thank you enough...
323
00:21:28,586 --> 00:21:30,068
She's hung up on me, so...
324
00:21:30,586 --> 00:21:31,896
Wow, okay, I've got to go.
325
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,241
Yeah, of course you do.
326
00:21:33,310 --> 00:21:35,206
If you need me, I'll be in
the office, doin' my job.
327
00:21:35,310 --> 00:21:36,275
Tryin' not to get myself fired.
328
00:22:11,241 --> 00:22:12,965
Stop!
329
00:22:13,068 --> 00:22:14,344
Stop it, now!
330
00:22:29,413 --> 00:22:30,517
Enough!
331
00:22:33,448 --> 00:22:34,586
Fuck you.
332
00:22:47,344 --> 00:22:48,310
Hm.
333
00:22:58,103 --> 00:22:59,379
What is this?
334
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,034
Thanks.
335
00:23:29,551 --> 00:23:30,655
Thanks.
336
00:23:31,206 --> 00:23:32,034
Hey.
337
00:23:32,344 --> 00:23:33,551
Hi.
338
00:23:33,655 --> 00:23:35,448
Uh, I wasn't sure how much time
you had,
339
00:23:35,551 --> 00:23:36,551
so I ordered you a coffee,
340
00:23:36,655 --> 00:23:37,965
but then I thought maybe
you wanted tea,
341
00:23:38,068 --> 00:23:40,103
so I just got both,
and then I saw a sticky bun,
342
00:23:40,241 --> 00:23:42,000
and I thought, "You can't
go wrong with a sticky bun,
343
00:23:42,103 --> 00:23:43,275
can you?"
344
00:23:43,379 --> 00:23:46,448
So, um, I'm very grateful that
you've agreed to meet me.
345
00:23:49,586 --> 00:23:50,827
Sorry.
Jeanette.
346
00:23:52,172 --> 00:23:53,724
Sorry, are you the...?
347
00:23:53,793 --> 00:23:54,931
The lift bitch?
348
00:23:55,034 --> 00:23:56,620
Yes, that's me.
349
00:23:57,413 --> 00:23:58,793
Sorry.
350
00:24:01,206 --> 00:24:02,413
I'll take the coffee.
351
00:24:02,517 --> 00:24:03,620
Okay.
352
00:24:03,724 --> 00:24:07,034
Look, um, sorry I was a bit
tricky on the phone,
353
00:24:07,137 --> 00:24:08,517
it's, um...
354
00:24:08,655 --> 00:24:10,206
It was a work crisis.
355
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:12,931
It's fine, honestly.
I've been there.
356
00:24:13,793 --> 00:24:16,965
Um, I'm currently in charge of,
uh,
357
00:24:17,068 --> 00:24:18,827
an active murder investigation.
358
00:24:18,931 --> 00:24:20,103
Mm-hm.
359
00:24:20,206 --> 00:24:22,517
Um, at stake
my professional reputation,
360
00:24:22,620 --> 00:24:25,137
Carl Lowry is somehow involved.
361
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,689
Wow, that's, uh...
362
00:24:30,413 --> 00:24:31,482
Extreme.
363
00:24:31,586 --> 00:24:33,689
I'm truly in a tricky
tight rope, here.
364
00:24:33,793 --> 00:24:36,896
My access to him has been
slightly hampered.
365
00:24:37,758 --> 00:24:38,586
Ah.
366
00:24:38,896 --> 00:24:39,862
I'd be very grateful
367
00:24:39,965 --> 00:24:41,241
if you could tell me what you
know.
368
00:24:41,620 --> 00:24:43,172
And, of course...
369
00:24:43,310 --> 00:24:46,103
You understand that this is
confidential information?
370
00:24:46,172 --> 00:24:47,793
There's someone out there
killing young men.
371
00:24:49,034 --> 00:24:51,482
I might be absolutely wrong
about Lowry,
372
00:24:51,586 --> 00:24:53,000
but two men are dead,
373
00:24:53,689 --> 00:24:55,862
and I am terrified that there is
gonna be a third.
374
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,103
So, please, please.
375
00:24:58,965 --> 00:25:01,241
Can you tell me anything
about his psychology?
376
00:25:05,206 --> 00:25:07,724
He truly believes he's done
nothing wrong.
377
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,103
He understands that society
condemns what he's done, but...
378
00:25:13,586 --> 00:25:15,758
He has these core beliefs that
379
00:25:15,862 --> 00:25:17,413
this is the natural order of
things,
380
00:25:17,517 --> 00:25:18,586
and that therefore,
381
00:25:18,689 --> 00:25:20,758
he's ultimately and
fundamentally correct.
382
00:25:20,862 --> 00:25:22,137
Fuck me.
383
00:25:22,413 --> 00:25:24,206
Said he could buy me a child.
384
00:25:25,862 --> 00:25:27,827
There are people he knows
can produce a child
385
00:25:27,896 --> 00:25:30,068
and make it disappear
just as quickly.
386
00:25:36,172 --> 00:25:39,275
In your professional opinion,
is he capable of murder?
387
00:25:40,172 --> 00:25:41,413
Oh, we all are.
388
00:25:41,517 --> 00:25:44,137
Just can't tell you if he's
guilty of your murders.
389
00:25:45,413 --> 00:25:47,241
Don't stop looking, will you?
390
00:25:50,344 --> 00:25:52,413
I think there's something awful
underneath all this
391
00:25:52,517 --> 00:25:54,068
that I'm just not privy to.
392
00:25:56,344 --> 00:25:58,827
There's people like that among
us all the time, right?
393
00:25:58,931 --> 00:26:00,137
We meet them every day.
394
00:26:02,103 --> 00:26:03,275
Occupational hazard.
395
00:26:03,379 --> 00:26:05,000
I mean, I sometimes find it
really hard
396
00:26:05,137 --> 00:26:06,689
not to think everybody's bad.
397
00:26:07,172 --> 00:26:08,137
Including me?
398
00:26:11,448 --> 00:26:14,931
I, I don't, I don't often deal
with people like him.
399
00:26:15,034 --> 00:26:16,793
My main area of work is
trauma patients.
400
00:26:16,931 --> 00:26:17,827
Mm-hm.
401
00:26:17,931 --> 00:26:20,275
Dissociative identities, PTSD.
402
00:26:20,620 --> 00:26:23,310
Can't make your past disappear,
but you can make it hurt less.
403
00:26:23,413 --> 00:26:25,137
How does that sit
with you, then?
404
00:26:25,241 --> 00:26:27,310
You're helping the victims'
and perpetrators.
405
00:26:28,241 --> 00:26:30,586
Well, I have met people like him
before.
406
00:26:30,689 --> 00:26:32,103
He is different.
407
00:26:34,344 --> 00:26:37,137
God, how does it sit with me?
I don't know, ask me tomorrow.
408
00:26:39,862 --> 00:26:41,241
Is everything alright?
409
00:26:41,310 --> 00:26:42,310
Ah, shoot.
410
00:26:42,827 --> 00:26:44,448
Yeah, I've just gotta head
back to the station
411
00:26:44,517 --> 00:26:45,931
for, uh, a bollocking.
412
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,275
Okay.
413
00:26:47,620 --> 00:26:48,758
Look...
414
00:26:49,103 --> 00:26:51,586
Is there any way I could talk to
you further?
415
00:26:51,655 --> 00:26:52,827
This has been immensely helpful.
416
00:26:52,931 --> 00:26:54,551
Truly can check me schedule.
417
00:26:54,620 --> 00:26:55,931
Thank you.
418
00:26:56,241 --> 00:26:58,344
Serious, thank you.
Thank you, thank you.
419
00:27:02,862 --> 00:27:04,344
Before I go, um...
420
00:27:05,931 --> 00:27:08,310
If they got me this interview,
what should I ask?
421
00:27:10,172 --> 00:27:12,758
Ask him if the psychiatrist
did a good job.
422
00:27:13,862 --> 00:27:15,241
Thank you.
423
00:27:15,517 --> 00:27:16,655
I'll let you know.
424
00:27:40,586 --> 00:27:42,000
Good afternoon, ma'am.
425
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,965
Well, two men dead in as
many days.
426
00:27:45,068 --> 00:27:46,551
It's not really, is it?
427
00:27:47,379 --> 00:27:49,827
Uh, I understand optics aren't
great...
428
00:27:49,896 --> 00:27:54,482
'Optics' is such an ugly word.
Two men are dead.
429
00:27:55,172 --> 00:27:56,655
Let's focus on that, okay?
430
00:27:56,758 --> 00:27:57,724
Yes, ma'am.
431
00:27:58,344 --> 00:28:00,620
The minute the podcasters get
their hands on it,
432
00:28:00,724 --> 00:28:02,379
our investigation is toast.
433
00:28:03,413 --> 00:28:05,310
Decades of policing under
our belt.
434
00:28:05,413 --> 00:28:07,103
But a teenager buys
a microphone on Amazon,
435
00:28:07,241 --> 00:28:08,965
and suddenly
they're Sherlock fucking Holmes.
436
00:28:09,103 --> 00:28:11,551
Young Mike here has been
catching me up on
437
00:28:11,620 --> 00:28:13,103
your meeting with Dr. Craven.
438
00:28:13,241 --> 00:28:14,586
I understand you're unhappy,
439
00:28:14,689 --> 00:28:17,931
but I received intel that's
extremely pertinent to the case.
440
00:28:18,379 --> 00:28:21,413
Dr. Craven has informed me that
Carl Lowry
441
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,896
is involved in a pedophile ring
of sorts
442
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,344
that procures and disposes
of children.
443
00:28:28,241 --> 00:28:31,482
I appreciate that the link to
David White is tenuous.
444
00:28:32,206 --> 00:28:34,103
But we've got Lowry in custody.
445
00:28:34,241 --> 00:28:35,793
Before he slips out of here
on bail,
446
00:28:35,896 --> 00:28:37,448
we should lean on him, ma'am.
447
00:28:41,448 --> 00:28:43,241
You may have your interview.
448
00:28:45,551 --> 00:28:48,793
But your conduct may well result
in my making a referral
449
00:28:48,896 --> 00:28:50,896
to the Professional
Standards Department.
450
00:28:51,241 --> 00:28:52,896
I understand that, ma'am,
thank you.
451
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,620
We are all on the same
side, Jeanette.
452
00:28:56,965 --> 00:28:58,448
You'd do well to remember that.
453
00:28:58,896 --> 00:29:00,310
Thank you, ma'am.
454
00:29:07,344 --> 00:29:08,517
-Ma'am, I'm so--
-Don't worry about it,
455
00:29:08,620 --> 00:29:09,448
it's fine.
456
00:29:12,103 --> 00:29:13,862
Fucking twat.
457
00:29:26,482 --> 00:29:28,206
So, as you can see,
458
00:29:28,344 --> 00:29:30,068
Alsace-lorraine is
valuable territory,
459
00:29:30,172 --> 00:29:31,620
even at this point in history
460
00:29:31,724 --> 00:29:35,689
and sits firmly within German
empire post Franco-Prussian war.
461
00:29:37,034 --> 00:29:38,379
What are you gonna wear?
462
00:29:39,689 --> 00:29:40,586
I don't know.
463
00:29:40,689 --> 00:29:42,137
Something I'd wanna fuck me in.
464
00:29:42,241 --> 00:29:44,448
Mate, you could cover yourself
head to toe in shit,
465
00:29:44,517 --> 00:29:46,413
and he'd still fuck you.
466
00:29:46,896 --> 00:29:48,000
He's obsessed.
467
00:29:48,344 --> 00:29:49,517
Don't even.
468
00:29:49,620 --> 00:29:51,482
I'm mucking out on the farm in
the morning,
469
00:29:51,551 --> 00:29:53,758
so I genuinely might stink
of shit.
470
00:29:54,517 --> 00:29:57,551
You're losing your virginity
this week, you total slut.
471
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,620
Just don't have sex in
my parents' bed,
472
00:29:59,689 --> 00:30:01,310
or we can never have a party
again.
473
00:30:01,379 --> 00:30:03,862
Like, you can have sex
in my bed,
474
00:30:03,965 --> 00:30:05,310
as long as you don't squirt.
475
00:30:05,379 --> 00:30:08,551
Charlie!
My God, what is wrong with you?
476
00:30:12,827 --> 00:30:14,862
What makes you, you?
477
00:30:15,137 --> 00:30:17,620
Obliterated in a single war.
478
00:30:25,034 --> 00:30:27,413
Hey, you don't have to do that.
479
00:30:28,034 --> 00:30:29,517
And we don't want these.
480
00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:33,827
You don't want the chocolate?
481
00:30:42,137 --> 00:30:43,379
Okay.
482
00:30:54,137 --> 00:30:55,931
So, you can fight, yeah?
483
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,689
How would you like to make £300?
484
00:31:00,793 --> 00:31:01,896
Doing what?
485
00:31:05,896 --> 00:31:07,586
There's a gym around the corner.
486
00:31:08,793 --> 00:31:13,586
You practice punching.
When you're ready, you fight.
487
00:31:14,862 --> 00:31:16,551
It's £300 each time.
488
00:31:17,448 --> 00:31:18,896
You don't have to win.
489
00:31:20,379 --> 00:31:21,620
I don't have to win?
490
00:31:23,931 --> 00:31:25,103
I'm serious.
491
00:31:26,931 --> 00:31:30,068
Come along tonight,
and bring the kid.
492
00:31:41,103 --> 00:31:43,413
For the tape, this is
DCI Jeanette Kilburn
493
00:31:43,517 --> 00:31:47,103
interviewing Mr. Carl Lowry,
who's declined
494
00:31:47,206 --> 00:31:48,862
legal representation present.
495
00:31:48,965 --> 00:31:49,896
Is this correct?
496
00:31:50,034 --> 00:31:51,000
-Why waste their time?
-Fair enough.
497
00:31:51,068 --> 00:31:52,758
-No coffee.
-Mm.
498
00:31:57,586 --> 00:31:59,241
So, you're someone else to know
what it's like
499
00:31:59,344 --> 00:32:01,379
to be sexually attracted
to children?
500
00:32:03,413 --> 00:32:04,448
Does it feel good
501
00:32:04,517 --> 00:32:07,344
to finally be able to talk about
it, Carl?
502
00:32:08,655 --> 00:32:11,965
You know, it really does.
503
00:32:13,448 --> 00:32:15,448
You can end up living
a half-life,
504
00:32:15,896 --> 00:32:17,344
siphoning yourself away.
505
00:32:17,482 --> 00:32:18,793
It feels like a lie.
506
00:32:19,310 --> 00:32:20,517
Because...
507
00:32:21,206 --> 00:32:23,413
In a world that harps on
representation,
508
00:32:23,517 --> 00:32:26,931
I will never see the way that
I experience love as acceptable.
509
00:32:28,896 --> 00:32:30,206
It depresses me.
510
00:32:45,793 --> 00:32:47,379
Tell me what you know about him,
Carl.
511
00:32:47,482 --> 00:32:48,931
Why are you showing me this?
512
00:32:49,034 --> 00:32:51,448
Well, I've been told that you're
the man in the know
513
00:32:51,551 --> 00:32:53,931
when it comes to buying and
disposing of children.
514
00:32:55,620 --> 00:32:57,965
So, tell me,
who is this young man,
515
00:32:58,068 --> 00:32:59,517
and how did you kill him?
516
00:32:59,620 --> 00:33:00,862
I didn't.
517
00:33:01,586 --> 00:33:03,310
This young man's body was found
518
00:33:04,275 --> 00:33:07,517
outside your offices
yesterday morning.
519
00:33:08,379 --> 00:33:09,379
Toxicology reports are back,
520
00:33:09,482 --> 00:33:12,000
and he's pumped full of
lidocaine.
521
00:33:25,103 --> 00:33:26,862
This young man, he was found
this morning
522
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,310
outside
a meat packing warehouse,
523
00:33:29,862 --> 00:33:32,724
also pumped full of lidocaine.
524
00:33:35,137 --> 00:33:36,827
What's so funny, Carl?
525
00:33:36,931 --> 00:33:38,172
Oh, all of it.
526
00:33:39,310 --> 00:33:40,793
All of it and none of it.
527
00:33:41,517 --> 00:33:43,172
Did you kill these boys?
528
00:33:43,241 --> 00:33:46,103
I'm afraid DCI Kilburn,
you're very much mistaken.
529
00:33:46,206 --> 00:33:48,172
Are you saying you're
innocent in this?
530
00:33:49,413 --> 00:33:51,137
I don't like little boys.
531
00:33:51,206 --> 00:33:53,068
-You like little girls.
-What's not to like?
532
00:33:53,206 --> 00:33:54,551
Do you know David White?
533
00:33:56,724 --> 00:33:58,689
I honestly couldn't tell you,
I'm afraid.
534
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,896
Do any of your friends like
young boys, Carl?
535
00:34:03,620 --> 00:34:05,586
Of your friends who like
little boys,
536
00:34:05,724 --> 00:34:07,620
any of them into torture?
537
00:34:08,758 --> 00:34:10,758
I don't know who you could be
referring to.
538
00:34:10,896 --> 00:34:12,206
You explain something to me.
539
00:34:12,275 --> 00:34:15,655
Explain why you're so at ease
outing yourself as a pedophile,
540
00:34:15,793 --> 00:34:18,034
so reluctant to confessing to
being a murderer?
541
00:34:18,551 --> 00:34:20,827
Simple, because I've never
murdered anyone.
542
00:34:20,931 --> 00:34:22,379
Help me find who did, then.
543
00:34:22,448 --> 00:34:24,413
Because I think you can help,
because I think you know.
544
00:34:24,551 --> 00:34:25,724
I think you know.
545
00:34:27,172 --> 00:34:28,275
And if I do?
546
00:34:30,103 --> 00:34:31,448
It wouldn't make a difference.
547
00:34:35,931 --> 00:34:38,379
Did the psychiatrist do
a good job?
548
00:34:47,758 --> 00:34:50,517
She didn't do the job
she was supposed to.
549
00:34:52,896 --> 00:34:55,310
Now, I'd be grateful if I could
return to my cell
550
00:34:55,413 --> 00:34:56,758
ahead of my imminent bail.
551
00:35:03,517 --> 00:35:07,689
Interview terminated at
4:34 P.M.
552
00:35:10,413 --> 00:35:12,344
I'm gonna find out
what's goin' on here.
553
00:35:14,344 --> 00:35:15,758
Everything.
554
00:35:16,931 --> 00:35:18,206
You know that, don't you?
555
00:35:24,551 --> 00:35:25,758
How did that go?
556
00:35:25,896 --> 00:35:27,551
What the hell was that?
He's a slippery fucker.
557
00:35:27,655 --> 00:35:28,931
He's a classic pedo.
558
00:35:29,034 --> 00:35:30,206
Oh, don't say pedo.
559
00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:32,862
Right, so we know
that it is not him
560
00:35:32,931 --> 00:35:36,517
physically dumping these bodies,
but I still think he's involved.
561
00:35:36,620 --> 00:35:38,344
-Why?
-Because he's frightened.
562
00:35:38,448 --> 00:35:40,137
I mean, he's shit-scared.
563
00:35:40,241 --> 00:35:43,551
Something he said about all of
it and none of it.
564
00:35:43,655 --> 00:35:44,965
I mean, he knows what's
happened,
565
00:35:45,034 --> 00:35:46,965
he just won't say,
or he can't say.
566
00:35:47,068 --> 00:35:48,241
Which is it?
Fuck.
567
00:35:49,448 --> 00:35:51,103
Let's see what she's gonna say.
568
00:35:51,482 --> 00:35:52,862
Give me a second.
569
00:35:53,862 --> 00:35:55,724
-Hello?
-Dr. Craven?
570
00:35:55,827 --> 00:35:57,724
Hi, this is, um,
DCI Jeanette Kilburn.
571
00:35:57,862 --> 00:35:59,379
Ah, yes.
Hi, Jeanette.
572
00:35:59,482 --> 00:36:02,793
Yeah, listen, I just interviewed
Carl Lowry,
573
00:36:02,931 --> 00:36:04,137
and I've got more questions
than answers,
574
00:36:04,275 --> 00:36:06,758
and, um, I know that I already
owe you a favor...
575
00:36:07,379 --> 00:36:09,724
But I was just wondering if it's
possible to meet up.
576
00:36:09,793 --> 00:36:13,344
Uh, of course.
Uh, I'm free this evening.
577
00:36:13,413 --> 00:36:14,482
Yes, that's good.
578
00:36:14,586 --> 00:36:15,965
-Great.
-Yeah, I can do that.
579
00:36:16,103 --> 00:36:18,241
You can come around to mine.
I'll send you my address.
580
00:36:18,344 --> 00:36:19,689
Sounds like a plan.
581
00:36:19,793 --> 00:36:21,137
Okay, I'll be straight there.
I really appreciate this.
582
00:36:21,275 --> 00:36:22,172
Thanks, ma'am.
583
00:36:22,275 --> 00:36:23,310
-Okay.
-Yeah, thanks very much.
584
00:36:23,448 --> 00:36:24,310
-Buh-bye.
-Bye.
585
00:36:24,758 --> 00:36:25,586
You're sure she doesn't fancy
you?
586
00:36:25,655 --> 00:36:26,724
Grow the fuck up,
for fuck's sake.
587
00:36:26,793 --> 00:36:29,448
Right, you gonna give me a lift
home, or what?
588
00:36:29,586 --> 00:36:31,965
Uh-huh.
After you.
589
00:36:33,068 --> 00:36:34,413
-Good night, ma'am.
-Good night, Mike.
590
00:36:34,551 --> 00:36:35,931
Good night.
591
00:36:47,517 --> 00:36:48,551
Come in.
592
00:36:50,379 --> 00:36:51,413
David.
593
00:36:52,275 --> 00:36:55,275
Oh, I'm so sorry,
your appointment was earlier,
594
00:36:55,379 --> 00:36:57,241
and I'm afraid you've missed
your slot.
595
00:36:57,862 --> 00:36:59,655
I can see you at the same time
next week.
596
00:36:59,758 --> 00:37:02,000
If you don't mind,
I'd really like to talk now,
597
00:37:02,103 --> 00:37:03,137
if you're free.
598
00:37:03,517 --> 00:37:08,000
It's urgent, please.
I'll pay again, of course.
599
00:37:13,241 --> 00:37:14,517
Take a seat.
600
00:37:15,172 --> 00:37:16,482
Thank you.
601
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,000
I had a pretty horrific day.
602
00:37:19,275 --> 00:37:20,137
Oh, yeah?
603
00:37:22,482 --> 00:37:23,620
And what's happened?
604
00:37:23,689 --> 00:37:24,827
What would you like to tell me
about?
605
00:37:25,172 --> 00:37:26,862
Well, somethin' has
happened.
606
00:37:27,379 --> 00:37:29,068
Somethin' that wasn't supposed
to happen.
607
00:37:32,793 --> 00:37:37,034
And we need to
talk about control.
608
00:37:42,931 --> 00:37:45,344
What is it about control
that you'd like to discuss?
609
00:37:46,724 --> 00:37:49,000
I'd like to play
the shopping game.
610
00:37:51,724 --> 00:37:53,482
Alright, we can do that, David.
611
00:38:06,344 --> 00:38:07,517
David.
612
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,965
Today, I went to the shop,
and I bought...
613
00:38:21,034 --> 00:38:22,137
An egg.
614
00:38:24,103 --> 00:38:25,448
Today I went to the shop,
615
00:38:25,551 --> 00:38:27,655
and I bought an egg
and some bacon.
616
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,862
Today I went to
the shop,
617
00:38:31,965 --> 00:38:36,965
and I bought an egg,
some bacon, and...
618
00:38:39,379 --> 00:38:40,896
A silencer.
619
00:38:50,413 --> 00:38:52,068
It's your turn.
620
00:38:54,689 --> 00:38:55,793
Today I went to the shop,
621
00:38:55,896 --> 00:38:59,103
and I bought an egg,
some bacon, a silencer...
622
00:39:06,034 --> 00:39:07,517
And a tea set.
623
00:39:14,620 --> 00:39:16,931
Thank you for humoring me.
624
00:39:42,310 --> 00:39:44,137
Please,
may I be excused?
625
00:39:48,275 --> 00:39:51,000
Not until your father's
finished.
626
00:39:56,724 --> 00:39:57,793
But I have homework to do.
627
00:39:57,896 --> 00:39:59,517
Your mother said no.
628
00:40:00,482 --> 00:40:01,931
No means no.
629
00:40:23,379 --> 00:40:24,586
Sorry.
630
00:40:24,931 --> 00:40:26,793
Poured you a glass of wine
without even askin'.
631
00:40:26,931 --> 00:40:28,620
Oh, sure.
632
00:40:33,034 --> 00:40:34,551
Lowry's not a victim
is he?
633
00:40:34,655 --> 00:40:36,000
He's not being set up?
634
00:40:36,827 --> 00:40:38,310
What makes you say that?
635
00:40:38,655 --> 00:40:41,000
When I showed him
the photographs, I don't know.
636
00:40:41,758 --> 00:40:43,620
I don't think he'd seen them
before, you know?
637
00:40:43,724 --> 00:40:45,965
But he didn't seem surprised,
either.
638
00:40:46,655 --> 00:40:48,206
So, what do you make of that?
639
00:40:48,310 --> 00:40:49,655
Oh, he's involved.
640
00:40:50,137 --> 00:40:53,655
I know he is, I just, I don't
know how directly.
641
00:40:54,931 --> 00:40:57,448
How common is it for someone's
victimology to change?
642
00:40:57,862 --> 00:40:59,931
Oh, it's relatively rare.
643
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,724
Actually dependent on things
like motive, opportunity.
644
00:41:06,551 --> 00:41:07,862
Have you ever been so
sure of somethin'
645
00:41:07,965 --> 00:41:10,206
it almost sets your teeth
on edge?
646
00:41:12,620 --> 00:41:13,793
Yeah.
647
00:41:14,965 --> 00:41:16,931
Yeah, I have.
648
00:41:18,689 --> 00:41:21,379
Uh, I had a client,
a young woman.
649
00:41:24,034 --> 00:41:28,000
There was something there,
it was something ugly.
650
00:41:32,689 --> 00:41:33,827
She completely preoccupied me,
651
00:41:33,896 --> 00:41:36,206
to detriment of
my other clients, truth be told.
652
00:41:36,551 --> 00:41:38,172
What was it about?
653
00:41:39,137 --> 00:41:43,724
She was alluring, puzzling,
terrifying.
654
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,724
And I must've pushed too hard,
655
00:41:46,827 --> 00:41:49,206
because, uh, something awful
happened.
656
00:41:52,068 --> 00:41:55,344
Uh, she tried to take her life
in a session with me.
657
00:41:55,482 --> 00:41:56,689
Christ.
658
00:42:00,310 --> 00:42:02,620
Yeah, I, uh, took
her to the hospital.
659
00:42:03,448 --> 00:42:04,758
The reason I bring her up,
though,
660
00:42:04,862 --> 00:42:06,275
is because when I was with her,
661
00:42:06,379 --> 00:42:08,793
I've never been so sure in my
entire life of something
662
00:42:08,896 --> 00:42:10,862
That feeling you just described,
it...
663
00:42:12,103 --> 00:42:14,586
I know it, because it,
it haunts me.
664
00:42:17,137 --> 00:42:18,103
What happened to her?
665
00:42:21,931 --> 00:42:23,551
She...
666
00:42:23,655 --> 00:42:24,827
She vanished.
667
00:42:26,206 --> 00:42:27,103
Hi-ya.
668
00:42:27,241 --> 00:42:30,413
Oh God, Jojo, you scared
the life out of me.
669
00:42:30,931 --> 00:42:32,000
Have you found the person who
670
00:42:32,103 --> 00:42:33,448
murdered the boys in the bags
yet?
671
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,344
Uh, Jojo, this is Dr. Craven,
she's a colleague.
672
00:42:39,344 --> 00:42:40,551
-Hello.
-Hi.
673
00:42:40,655 --> 00:42:43,931
She's a psychiatrist,
and she's assisting someone,
674
00:42:44,034 --> 00:42:45,620
and we wanna know if they did it
or not,
675
00:42:45,724 --> 00:42:47,586
and Dr. Craven is
in a good position
676
00:42:47,724 --> 00:42:48,793
to tell us how.
677
00:42:48,896 --> 00:42:51,000
Oh.
Interesting.
678
00:42:51,862 --> 00:42:53,103
Mm-hm.
679
00:42:53,206 --> 00:42:55,068
Where's your dad?
Is he sleeping?
680
00:42:55,862 --> 00:42:57,241
Uh...
681
00:42:57,344 --> 00:42:58,413
Hello?
682
00:42:58,758 --> 00:43:00,275
-Hi.
-Oh, hi.
683
00:43:04,344 --> 00:43:06,689
Did you, uh, did you leave
our 13-year-old son
684
00:43:06,793 --> 00:43:08,034
at home by himself?
685
00:43:08,172 --> 00:43:10,310
I had that meeting today,
remember?
686
00:43:11,482 --> 00:43:14,000
Oh, come on, he's 13.
He's more than capable.
687
00:43:14,137 --> 00:43:15,689
I was left at home on my own
at 13.
688
00:43:15,793 --> 00:43:17,620
Yeah, so was I, that's because
we're dinosaurs.
689
00:43:17,724 --> 00:43:19,448
That's completely unacceptable.
690
00:43:19,551 --> 00:43:20,689
Mum, it was fine.
691
00:43:20,793 --> 00:43:21,931
I, I had a sandwich for lunch,
692
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,137
I didn't touch the hob,
I played Fortnite.
693
00:43:24,206 --> 00:43:25,206
It was fun.
694
00:43:25,310 --> 00:43:26,413
So gaming and lunch?
How long were you gone?
695
00:43:26,517 --> 00:43:28,344
It was a full meeting, Jeanette.
I don't know.
696
00:43:28,448 --> 00:43:29,620
-About four hours?
-Four hours?
697
00:43:29,724 --> 00:43:31,310
You left me no choice.
698
00:43:31,413 --> 00:43:34,275
I needed to go to her meeting,
and it worked out, didn't it?
699
00:43:34,344 --> 00:43:35,758
-Guess what?
-Hm?
700
00:43:35,862 --> 00:43:37,344
I made a sale.
701
00:43:38,206 --> 00:43:39,137
Yes.
702
00:43:39,551 --> 00:43:40,827
I made a fucking sale,
703
00:43:40,931 --> 00:43:42,620
and Joe didn't burn
the bloody house down.
704
00:43:43,068 --> 00:43:45,413
I'm so sorry, gotta head.
705
00:43:46,689 --> 00:43:47,758
Hi, I'm Alex.
706
00:43:47,827 --> 00:43:49,379
-Sorry, I...
-Sophia, this is Alex.
707
00:43:49,482 --> 00:43:51,034
Alex, this is Sophia,
and I'm really sorry,
708
00:43:51,137 --> 00:43:52,689
because a domestic was
absolutely not
709
00:43:52,827 --> 00:43:54,000
on the cards today.
710
00:43:54,137 --> 00:43:55,689
Yeah, we can talk about that
later.
711
00:43:55,793 --> 00:43:56,827
Sorry to interrupt.
712
00:43:56,965 --> 00:43:58,758
Mm, please, um, thank you.
713
00:43:59,241 --> 00:44:01,827
Uh, just call me if you need
anything.
714
00:44:01,896 --> 00:44:03,448
You sure you don't want to stay?
715
00:44:03,586 --> 00:44:04,827
Jojo and I can make ourselves
scarce.
716
00:44:04,931 --> 00:44:06,241
No, no.
Honestly, it's fine.
717
00:44:06,379 --> 00:44:08,482
Um, congratulations, and, uh,
lovely to meet you.
718
00:44:08,586 --> 00:44:10,965
Just message me if you need
anything, yeah?
719
00:44:13,655 --> 00:44:14,689
Oh...
720
00:44:27,655 --> 00:44:29,344
Is this the gym?
721
00:44:43,103 --> 00:44:44,827
Stay out of trouble, eh?
722
00:45:00,448 --> 00:45:03,206
Good boy!
Go!
723
00:45:04,448 --> 00:45:07,137
Okay, boys, we're gonna
.
724
00:45:07,241 --> 00:45:08,586
So, let's go.
725
00:45:08,655 --> 00:45:13,482
One, two, three, four,
726
00:45:13,586 --> 00:45:15,758
five, six.
727
00:45:16,448 --> 00:45:18,758
Keep it straight,
get those legs straight.
728
00:45:21,068 --> 00:45:22,310
One.
729
00:45:22,827 --> 00:45:24,241
Two.
730
00:45:24,551 --> 00:45:25,724
Three.
731
00:46:09,655 --> 00:46:12,413
Tell me about
your mother, Victoria.
732
00:46:12,689 --> 00:46:14,068
What was she like?
733
00:46:15,448 --> 00:46:16,586
Blind.
734
00:46:18,275 --> 00:46:21,413
Vacuous, self-centered.
735
00:46:24,448 --> 00:46:25,689
Cruel.
736
00:46:26,310 --> 00:46:28,482
Alright...
737
00:46:28,586 --> 00:46:30,517
What did she do
that was so cruel?
738
00:46:32,344 --> 00:46:33,586
She didn't do
anything.
739
00:46:35,655 --> 00:46:37,206
That was just it, you see.
740
00:46:40,896 --> 00:46:43,551
A person's cruelty
isn't measured by what they do.
741
00:46:44,137 --> 00:46:47,275
Right.
I'm going out.
742
00:46:50,379 --> 00:46:51,862
It's what they
don't do.
743
00:47:10,206 --> 00:47:12,482
And my mummy...
744
00:47:14,068 --> 00:47:15,448
Let it all happen.
745
00:47:16,827 --> 00:47:17,931
All of it.
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