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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,977 --> 00:00:14,324 [no audio] 2 00:00:36,208 --> 00:00:40,385 [Interviewer] 3 00:00:40,971 --> 00:00:42,663 - Well, of course. 4 00:00:42,766 --> 00:00:45,631 I mean, because the current system at the end of the day, 5 00:00:45,735 --> 00:00:48,013 what we have right now doesn't do enough 6 00:00:48,117 --> 00:00:49,704 to protect children. 7 00:00:49,808 --> 00:00:52,431 [gentle music] 8 00:00:56,090 --> 00:00:59,887 - Food coloring, artificial color, food dye, 9 00:00:59,990 --> 00:01:03,304 artificial dye, synthetic food dye. 10 00:01:04,374 --> 00:01:05,720 Not all that exciting, huh? 11 00:01:07,205 --> 00:01:08,654 Why would anyone choose to watch a documentary 12 00:01:08,758 --> 00:01:11,381 about such a seemingly pointless topic? 13 00:01:11,485 --> 00:01:14,281 If you're feeling skeptical, you're not alone. 14 00:01:14,384 --> 00:01:17,318 I, for one never in my wildest dreams imagined this 15 00:01:17,422 --> 00:01:19,251 even being a topic of conversation, 16 00:01:19,355 --> 00:01:22,392 much less the theme of my first ever documentary. 17 00:01:22,496 --> 00:01:25,223 Synthetic dyes at a glance seem fairly innocent, 18 00:01:25,326 --> 00:01:26,776 and though they may be pretty obvious 19 00:01:26,879 --> 00:01:28,260 and brightly colored junk food, 20 00:01:28,364 --> 00:01:30,159 they often hide in places you wouldn't think about. 21 00:01:30,262 --> 00:01:32,471 Like white foods, brown foods, 22 00:01:32,575 --> 00:01:34,680 medications, and sports drinks. 23 00:01:34,784 --> 00:01:37,407 Heck, that bag of popcorn you're munching on right now, 24 00:01:37,511 --> 00:01:39,582 well, you get the picture. 25 00:01:39,685 --> 00:01:41,584 The unavoidable fact that they're in so much 26 00:01:41,687 --> 00:01:44,449 of our food supply is one thing, but the dirty little secret 27 00:01:44,552 --> 00:01:47,176 of what these chemicals are doing to our body is another. 28 00:01:47,279 --> 00:01:50,248 And something I was completely oblivious to. 29 00:01:50,351 --> 00:01:52,215 It's not as though the information wasn't out there. 30 00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:53,665 It's been a topic of discussion 31 00:01:53,768 --> 00:01:54,873 and concern for decades. 32 00:01:54,976 --> 00:01:56,978 I suppose it was just never part of my narrative, 33 00:01:57,082 --> 00:01:58,980 so it seemed insignificant. 34 00:01:59,084 --> 00:02:00,430 - A new focus tonight on the effects 35 00:02:00,534 --> 00:02:01,707 of artificial food colors. 36 00:02:01,811 --> 00:02:03,882 They're in most everything you eat, 37 00:02:03,985 --> 00:02:06,609 helping to make them look vibrant and appealing. 38 00:02:06,712 --> 00:02:09,888 - In the United States, the approval of the amount of dyes 39 00:02:09,991 --> 00:02:12,649 that are used in food has quadrupled in recent years. 40 00:02:12,753 --> 00:02:14,341 - Dyes that some doctors 41 00:02:14,444 --> 00:02:17,033 and parents say can affect your children's behavior. 42 00:02:17,137 --> 00:02:18,138 - [Brandon] You see that fellow right there, 43 00:02:18,241 --> 00:02:19,760 the one immersed in the editing process 44 00:02:19,863 --> 00:02:22,797 amongst his impressive Back to The Future collection. 45 00:02:22,901 --> 00:02:25,352 Well, that's me. 46 00:02:25,455 --> 00:02:27,940 And for the past two years I've been passionately working 47 00:02:28,044 --> 00:02:29,321 on this film. 48 00:02:29,425 --> 00:02:31,772 In all honesty, I probably had no business taking 49 00:02:31,875 --> 00:02:32,980 on this endeavor. 50 00:02:33,083 --> 00:02:34,947 By trade, I'm an advertising photographer 51 00:02:35,051 --> 00:02:36,777 and cinematographer whose experience 52 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,124 in creating actual films is limited to a music video 53 00:02:39,228 --> 00:02:41,022 about my city and an eight minute short film 54 00:02:41,126 --> 00:02:44,164 about a time traveling couch potato with a magic watch. 55 00:02:45,544 --> 00:02:47,236 Had I known what was involved in taking on a project 56 00:02:47,339 --> 00:02:50,308 of this magnitude, this film may not exist. 57 00:02:50,411 --> 00:02:53,138 But alas, they say ignorance is bliss and conviction 58 00:02:53,242 --> 00:02:55,175 is a pretty strong motivator. 59 00:02:55,278 --> 00:02:57,453 How did I arrive at this conviction you may ask. 60 00:02:57,556 --> 00:02:59,800 Well, that's where this story begins. 61 00:02:59,903 --> 00:03:00,939 And let me clarify. 62 00:03:01,042 --> 00:03:04,494 This story doesn't start with me. It starts with her. 63 00:03:06,945 --> 00:03:09,534 [gentle music] 64 00:03:18,267 --> 00:03:19,337 At the heart of this film 65 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:20,821 is a mother's unwavering commitment 66 00:03:20,924 --> 00:03:23,548 to her children's wellbeing despite the obstacles 67 00:03:23,651 --> 00:03:24,342 in her path. 68 00:03:24,445 --> 00:03:27,483 That mother is my wife, Whitney. 69 00:03:36,388 --> 00:03:39,357 [birds chirping] 70 00:03:40,254 --> 00:03:40,979 - [Whitney] You ready? 71 00:03:41,082 --> 00:03:41,842 - Yeah. - Okay. 72 00:03:42,843 --> 00:03:44,741 - One plus one is two. 73 00:03:48,642 --> 00:03:51,265 - If you were to look at our son today, 74 00:03:51,369 --> 00:03:54,682 you would never guess that he faced any challenges. 75 00:03:54,786 --> 00:03:58,272 You would see a child that is smart and sweet, 76 00:03:58,376 --> 00:04:00,067 he's compassionate and kind. 77 00:04:00,170 --> 00:04:01,758 He's a bundle of virtues, 78 00:04:01,862 --> 00:04:04,589 and he is everything you would want in a child. 79 00:04:04,692 --> 00:04:07,902 And I feel very fortunate that God made me his mama. 80 00:04:10,698 --> 00:04:14,392 Atreyu was a bit of a puzzle between ages one and three. 81 00:04:15,945 --> 00:04:18,016 We were getting some really concerning reports 82 00:04:18,119 --> 00:04:21,433 from his Sunday school teachers and his teachers, 83 00:04:21,537 --> 00:04:24,194 and it was just starting to feel like a series 84 00:04:24,298 --> 00:04:26,266 of like gut punches. 85 00:04:26,369 --> 00:04:28,785 He was really struggling to control his emotions, 86 00:04:28,889 --> 00:04:30,580 and to keep his hands to himself. 87 00:04:30,684 --> 00:04:33,549 And so we were constantly doing this balancing act 88 00:04:33,652 --> 00:04:36,862 between is this normal toddler behavior 89 00:04:36,966 --> 00:04:39,175 or is there something wrong? 90 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,246 So the real puzzle was trying to figure out 91 00:04:41,350 --> 00:04:44,939 why some days ended in multiple phone calls, 92 00:04:45,043 --> 00:04:49,289 several writeups, just these really big emotional meltdowns 93 00:04:49,392 --> 00:04:52,464 that we as a family had to recover from. 94 00:04:52,568 --> 00:04:55,743 And then other days were surprisingly serene. 95 00:04:55,847 --> 00:04:58,539 Like you could talk him through situations, 96 00:04:58,643 --> 00:05:01,404 whereas some days you couldn't reason with him at all. 97 00:05:01,508 --> 00:05:04,545 So as his mom, I was really determined to help him. 98 00:05:04,649 --> 00:05:06,478 I'd devoured every parenting book 99 00:05:06,582 --> 00:05:08,722 and podcast I could get my hands on. 100 00:05:08,825 --> 00:05:11,345 We consulted doctors and therapists, 101 00:05:11,449 --> 00:05:13,830 but nothing seemed like it was helping. 102 00:05:13,934 --> 00:05:17,834 And it was at that point that we were really at a juncture, 103 00:05:17,938 --> 00:05:19,767 something had to change. 104 00:05:19,871 --> 00:05:21,390 So the only change that I could think 105 00:05:21,493 --> 00:05:24,116 of at this point was his diet. 106 00:05:24,220 --> 00:05:27,361 So I started doing some research, searching for foods 107 00:05:27,465 --> 00:05:29,398 that could cause behavioral issues in children. 108 00:05:29,501 --> 00:05:31,227 And I came across an article 109 00:05:31,331 --> 00:05:33,850 that suggested eliminating wheat, dairy, 110 00:05:33,954 --> 00:05:35,265 and synthetic dyes. 111 00:05:35,369 --> 00:05:37,682 This was a 30 day elimination diet, 112 00:05:37,785 --> 00:05:41,513 and we started reading labels and we eliminated wheat, dairy 113 00:05:41,617 --> 00:05:43,170 and synthetic dyes. 114 00:05:43,273 --> 00:05:47,139 48 hours later, we quite literally had a different child. 115 00:05:47,243 --> 00:05:48,900 - Hey mama. 116 00:05:49,003 --> 00:05:51,143 - Those good days, those like glimpses 117 00:05:51,247 --> 00:05:55,285 of a really easy going, kind, calm, 118 00:05:55,389 --> 00:05:57,391 easy to reason with child, 119 00:05:57,495 --> 00:06:00,360 that was a child that we had for 30 days straight. 120 00:06:00,463 --> 00:06:02,569 After the 30 days we reintroduced wheat 121 00:06:02,672 --> 00:06:04,122 and we saw no effect. 122 00:06:04,225 --> 00:06:07,367 We reintroduced the dairy and we saw no effect. 123 00:06:07,470 --> 00:06:09,610 And then we reintroduced synthetic dyes, 124 00:06:09,714 --> 00:06:12,406 and within 15 minutes all the behaviors we were seeing 125 00:06:12,510 --> 00:06:15,858 before the elimination diet came flooding back. 126 00:06:15,961 --> 00:06:18,688 So we were pretty surprised because the only place 127 00:06:18,792 --> 00:06:21,622 that he was really regularly getting synthetic dyes 128 00:06:21,726 --> 00:06:24,625 were through his allergy medicine 129 00:06:24,729 --> 00:06:26,558 and the occasional prescription 130 00:06:26,662 --> 00:06:28,560 or over-the-counter medication that we were giving him. 131 00:06:28,664 --> 00:06:32,219 And so we were really shocked that something so small, 132 00:06:32,322 --> 00:06:35,291 and such a small amount of something could dramatically 133 00:06:35,395 --> 00:06:37,224 impact his behavior. 134 00:06:37,327 --> 00:06:38,639 And so we quite literally 135 00:06:38,743 --> 00:06:40,710 have not touched synthetic dyes since. 136 00:06:41,573 --> 00:06:44,024 [bright music] 137 00:06:47,337 --> 00:06:49,857 - I think the world needs to know that the best science 138 00:06:49,961 --> 00:06:54,103 that we have shows that dyes can harm children. 139 00:06:54,206 --> 00:06:56,761 In terms of the kind of harm that dyes can do, 140 00:06:56,864 --> 00:06:58,797 its effects on neuro behavior, 141 00:06:58,901 --> 00:07:03,077 effects on attention activity, restlessness. 142 00:07:03,181 --> 00:07:07,219 And also some studies have shown effects on sleeplessness, 143 00:07:07,323 --> 00:07:08,738 irritability, and aggression. 144 00:07:08,842 --> 00:07:10,671 - So there are nine synthetic color additives 145 00:07:10,775 --> 00:07:12,017 that are approved for use in food. 146 00:07:12,121 --> 00:07:13,847 There are others that can be used in cosmetics, 147 00:07:13,950 --> 00:07:18,610 and they are blue 1, blue 2, citrus red 2, 148 00:07:18,714 --> 00:07:23,719 green 3, orange b, red 3, red 40, 149 00:07:24,374 --> 00:07:25,583 yellow 5 and yellow 6. 150 00:07:25,686 --> 00:07:27,792 - Because of the way that they're made, 151 00:07:27,895 --> 00:07:31,174 some contain compounds that we know are carcinogenic, 152 00:07:31,278 --> 00:07:33,522 or cancer-causing compounds. 153 00:07:33,625 --> 00:07:37,905 Also, we know red 3 and yellow 5 can be genotoxic, 154 00:07:39,182 --> 00:07:41,737 which means that they directly cause DNA damage, 155 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,773 that can potentially lead to a tumor 156 00:07:43,877 --> 00:07:47,363 or something that's passed from parent to child. 157 00:07:47,467 --> 00:07:48,640 - The synthetic dyes were first to introduced 158 00:07:48,744 --> 00:07:50,055 the United States way back in the middle 159 00:07:50,159 --> 00:07:52,851 of the 19th century over 160 years ago. 160 00:07:52,955 --> 00:07:55,129 The FDA first began to regulate them at the beginning 161 00:07:55,233 --> 00:07:57,166 of the 20th century around 1906. 162 00:07:57,269 --> 00:07:59,651 By the 1920's, we had begun to see 163 00:07:59,755 --> 00:08:03,103 the first publicly published worries 164 00:08:03,206 --> 00:08:07,245 that food was somehow related to child behavior problems. 165 00:08:07,348 --> 00:08:12,112 And then in the 1970's we had a major interest in it 166 00:08:12,215 --> 00:08:15,978 generated by Dr. Feingold's claims that food dyes 167 00:08:16,081 --> 00:08:19,084 and additives and salicylates are affecting hyperactivity. 168 00:08:19,188 --> 00:08:21,086 - He thought that synthetic food dyes 169 00:08:21,190 --> 00:08:23,744 were causing adverse behavioral effects. 170 00:08:23,848 --> 00:08:26,298 This was just based on his own observations, 171 00:08:26,402 --> 00:08:28,335 but it really created a firestorm, 172 00:08:28,438 --> 00:08:30,682 and studies started to be done 173 00:08:30,786 --> 00:08:32,995 and the studies were done over the years, over the years. 174 00:08:33,098 --> 00:08:34,686 And now here we are, 175 00:08:34,790 --> 00:08:37,068 and we now know that Benjamin Feingold was right. 176 00:08:54,050 --> 00:08:56,743 - So for a long time I was really apprehensive 177 00:08:56,846 --> 00:08:58,399 about sharing our story, 178 00:08:58,503 --> 00:09:00,574 not really out of self-preservation, 179 00:09:00,678 --> 00:09:03,439 but I really felt like our story was kind of hard 180 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:06,338 to believe, but I decided to be brave 181 00:09:06,442 --> 00:09:10,653 and I started sharing our story with friends and family. 182 00:09:10,757 --> 00:09:12,103 And I was really surprised 183 00:09:12,206 --> 00:09:14,692 because not only did people believe me, 184 00:09:14,795 --> 00:09:17,004 but they started sharing their stories, 185 00:09:17,108 --> 00:09:19,869 or their cousin's stories or their friend's stories. 186 00:09:19,973 --> 00:09:23,770 And so I wanted to create a space for families like ours 187 00:09:23,873 --> 00:09:26,048 to come together and help each other. 188 00:09:26,151 --> 00:09:30,259 So I started a Facebook group and it really blew up. 189 00:09:30,362 --> 00:09:33,642 As the Facebook group grew, it made me realize 190 00:09:33,745 --> 00:09:37,577 just how common these kinds of reactions are, 191 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:40,752 which in turn started to create some anger in me. 192 00:09:40,856 --> 00:09:44,100 And I became really angry that children, 193 00:09:44,204 --> 00:09:47,103 and maybe even adults were suffering 194 00:09:47,207 --> 00:09:49,347 and they had no idea that the culprit 195 00:09:49,450 --> 00:09:52,350 of their suffering could be something like synthetic dyes. 196 00:09:52,453 --> 00:09:57,113 So I became really obsessed with synthetic dyes. 197 00:09:57,217 --> 00:09:58,805 What are synthetic dyes? 198 00:09:58,908 --> 00:10:00,600 What are they doing to our bodies? 199 00:10:00,703 --> 00:10:04,120 Does it go beyond neurologic issues? 200 00:10:04,224 --> 00:10:07,641 And so I really started digging deep into research articles, 201 00:10:07,745 --> 00:10:11,576 and I was trying to decode this scientific jargon. 202 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:12,888 I'm college educated, 203 00:10:12,991 --> 00:10:16,029 but I still found myself being really overwhelmed 204 00:10:16,132 --> 00:10:18,100 and I had a lot of questions. 205 00:10:18,203 --> 00:10:22,483 So I really wanted to speak to these researchers in person. 206 00:10:22,587 --> 00:10:24,969 So I asked Brandon if he'd be willing 207 00:10:25,072 --> 00:10:29,732 to document our journey, and it took some convincing, 208 00:10:29,836 --> 00:10:32,148 but obviously you're watching a documentary. 209 00:10:32,252 --> 00:10:33,253 So he agreed. 210 00:10:35,427 --> 00:10:36,532 - [Brandon] And just like that, 211 00:10:36,636 --> 00:10:39,052 we were in the documentary business. 212 00:10:39,155 --> 00:10:41,088 This adventure would take us across the country, 213 00:10:41,192 --> 00:10:43,470 and eventually overseas in pursuit of the truth 214 00:10:43,573 --> 00:10:45,299 behind the effects of synthetic dyes. 215 00:10:45,403 --> 00:10:46,853 But it had to start somewhere. 216 00:10:46,956 --> 00:10:49,752 With no prior credibility and armed only with the vision, 217 00:10:49,856 --> 00:10:51,858 we managed to convince Dr. Rebecca Bevans, 218 00:10:51,961 --> 00:10:53,307 renowned professor of psychology, 219 00:10:53,411 --> 00:10:55,516 known for her TEDx talk on synthetic dyes, 220 00:10:55,620 --> 00:10:58,416 captivating audiences with over 300,000 views on YouTube, 221 00:10:58,519 --> 00:11:00,798 and a staggering 10 million views across TikTok 222 00:11:00,901 --> 00:11:03,110 to sit down with us for an interview. 223 00:11:03,214 --> 00:11:05,526 Little did we know this interview would be the catalyst 224 00:11:05,630 --> 00:11:08,322 that snowballed the rest of our film. 225 00:11:08,426 --> 00:11:10,773 [bright music] 226 00:11:14,812 --> 00:11:16,123 - [Whitney] Hi. - Hi, how are you? 227 00:11:16,227 --> 00:11:18,298 - This is so crazy. - I know, right? 228 00:11:19,955 --> 00:11:21,508 [Rebecca screaming] 229 00:11:21,611 --> 00:11:23,683 - [Whitney] You've got this girl! 230 00:11:23,786 --> 00:11:27,687 - Alex was a super sweet baby. 231 00:11:27,790 --> 00:11:30,517 He was easygoing, just a really gentle, 232 00:11:30,620 --> 00:11:33,382 really fun, super happy kid. 233 00:11:33,485 --> 00:11:35,660 As he started getting older, 234 00:11:35,764 --> 00:11:38,249 he was definitely an energetic little guy. 235 00:11:38,352 --> 00:11:39,940 He was go, go, go, go, go. 236 00:11:40,044 --> 00:11:41,977 He was just all over the place, 237 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,117 into everything, super curious. 238 00:11:44,220 --> 00:11:49,260 And the older he got, the more intense kind of he got. 239 00:11:50,192 --> 00:11:51,400 When he went off to kindergarten, 240 00:11:51,503 --> 00:11:54,437 his teacher on the second week tried to tell me 241 00:11:54,541 --> 00:11:55,715 that he had ADHD. 242 00:11:57,268 --> 00:12:01,721 And his doctor, you know, refused to assess him for ADHD. 243 00:12:03,170 --> 00:12:05,414 He said, he's just a really brilliant little kid, 244 00:12:05,517 --> 00:12:07,761 and he'll settle into school. 245 00:12:07,865 --> 00:12:10,695 And so he did, he settled into kindergarten, 246 00:12:10,799 --> 00:12:12,593 He did all right. 247 00:12:12,697 --> 00:12:14,319 First grade, he had an amazing teacher 248 00:12:14,423 --> 00:12:17,771 who kept him busy, giving him work from grades ahead 249 00:12:17,875 --> 00:12:21,223 and there wasn't a lot of behavioral problems, 250 00:12:21,326 --> 00:12:23,466 but the behavioral problems really, really started 251 00:12:23,570 --> 00:12:25,710 when he was in second grade. 252 00:12:25,814 --> 00:12:29,127 We started to see the inability to focus, 253 00:12:29,231 --> 00:12:33,787 and to pay attention and to get along with other kids 254 00:12:33,891 --> 00:12:35,340 and to get along with the instructor. 255 00:12:35,444 --> 00:12:36,652 And he would just get up out of his chair, 256 00:12:36,756 --> 00:12:38,447 and get back down in his chair and get up out of his chair 257 00:12:38,550 --> 00:12:39,724 and get back down on his chair. 258 00:12:39,828 --> 00:12:41,070 So I kept asking him, you know, come on bud, 259 00:12:41,174 --> 00:12:43,314 let's just focus, just focus and get this done. 260 00:12:43,417 --> 00:12:46,248 And he says to me, I can't. I can't focus mom. 261 00:12:46,351 --> 00:12:47,387 My brain buzzes. 262 00:12:48,733 --> 00:12:52,081 And I was like, okay, what do you mean? 263 00:12:52,185 --> 00:12:55,050 He goes, it's just buzzes. 264 00:12:55,153 --> 00:12:58,018 And I was really grateful that he could articulate that. 265 00:12:58,122 --> 00:13:00,193 My PhD is in cognitive neuroscience, 266 00:13:00,296 --> 00:13:01,366 brains aren't supposed to buzz. 267 00:13:01,470 --> 00:13:05,336 So I started down the Google rabbit hole 268 00:13:05,439 --> 00:13:07,959 of looking for all the information on brain buzzing. 269 00:13:08,063 --> 00:13:10,479 And I found a blog, and it was a 15-year-old 270 00:13:10,582 --> 00:13:13,827 who was talking about how when she ate red 40, 271 00:13:13,931 --> 00:13:15,311 her brain buzzed. 272 00:13:15,415 --> 00:13:17,762 I was like, all right, this is the only thing I got going, 273 00:13:17,866 --> 00:13:19,039 let's give this a shot. 274 00:13:19,143 --> 00:13:22,042 We pulled all the red 40 from his diet 275 00:13:22,146 --> 00:13:27,047 which was rough at first, but we noticed within a week or so 276 00:13:28,255 --> 00:13:29,360 that the brain buzzing wasn't there anymore, 277 00:13:29,463 --> 00:13:33,329 and the other ADHD type behaviors. 278 00:13:33,433 --> 00:13:34,848 So we waited until there was winter break, 279 00:13:34,952 --> 00:13:38,127 we pulled it out, he went back to school. 280 00:13:38,231 --> 00:13:40,647 Not a totally different kid, but a different kid. 281 00:13:40,750 --> 00:13:42,166 It was much easier for him. 282 00:13:44,099 --> 00:13:47,343 In hindsight, I don't know why we thought it was okay 283 00:13:47,447 --> 00:13:48,828 to give him other colors. 284 00:13:48,931 --> 00:13:51,313 Most of the time there is a correlation 285 00:13:51,416 --> 00:13:53,280 between red 40 and hyperactivity. 286 00:13:53,384 --> 00:13:56,249 So we thought, okay, fine, red 40 was the problem, 287 00:13:57,629 --> 00:14:00,115 and we didn't think about yellow, and green and blue. 288 00:14:00,218 --> 00:14:03,704 So he switched from his favorite candy being red 289 00:14:03,808 --> 00:14:05,672 to his favorite candies being yellow. 290 00:14:05,775 --> 00:14:07,432 Now towards the end of second grade, 291 00:14:07,536 --> 00:14:10,125 he was having these emotional meltdowns. 292 00:14:10,228 --> 00:14:13,197 Once a month he would throw a fit. 293 00:14:14,577 --> 00:14:16,476 And then it was like once a week he would throw a fit. 294 00:14:16,579 --> 00:14:20,929 And I'm talking, hey bud, can you turn off the television? 295 00:14:21,032 --> 00:14:21,930 We got to eat. 296 00:14:22,033 --> 00:14:23,552 And he would have a meltdown. 297 00:14:23,655 --> 00:14:24,760 He would cry and he would scream, 298 00:14:24,864 --> 00:14:29,869 and he would scratch at himself or he'd pull his shirts. 299 00:14:29,972 --> 00:14:33,596 He would just have this little rage reaction. 300 00:14:34,977 --> 00:14:36,876 So we get him through second grade, 301 00:14:36,979 --> 00:14:39,948 and then we go on vacation and we go to Hawaii. 302 00:14:40,051 --> 00:14:43,572 We're eating shaved ice once to twice a day, 303 00:14:43,675 --> 00:14:45,056 and he would get the yellow. 304 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,232 So he went from having a meltdown a week, 305 00:14:48,335 --> 00:14:51,028 to a meltdown a day to three meltdowns a day, 306 00:14:51,131 --> 00:14:53,927 to just almost a constant. 307 00:14:54,031 --> 00:14:56,861 By the time we got home, it was really bad. 308 00:14:56,965 --> 00:14:58,069 And that's when... 309 00:14:59,346 --> 00:15:02,625 And it's still hard for me to talk about. 310 00:15:02,729 --> 00:15:04,351 We were in his room and he is sitting on his bed, 311 00:15:04,455 --> 00:15:06,629 and he was just screaming and he was like, 312 00:15:06,733 --> 00:15:09,529 I just need you to get me a knife so I can kill myself. 313 00:15:11,738 --> 00:15:15,673 To look at a 7-year-old who just wants to die, 314 00:15:15,776 --> 00:15:19,504 I was like, oh my God, if he continues like this, 315 00:15:19,608 --> 00:15:21,748 he won't make it to his teenage years. 316 00:15:21,851 --> 00:15:23,819 - In the middle of the last century, 317 00:15:23,923 --> 00:15:25,096 there was sort of this growing concern 318 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:26,615 about harmful chemicals in our food 319 00:15:26,718 --> 00:15:28,513 due to a variety of factors. 320 00:15:28,617 --> 00:15:31,758 And so this and sort of mounting public pressure 321 00:15:31,861 --> 00:15:34,278 led Congress to pass two amendments 322 00:15:34,381 --> 00:15:37,212 to the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act. 323 00:15:37,315 --> 00:15:38,938 The first one passed in 1958, 324 00:15:39,041 --> 00:15:40,284 and that was the Food Additive Amendment. 325 00:15:40,387 --> 00:15:41,941 And the second passed in 1960, 326 00:15:42,044 --> 00:15:43,494 and that was the Color Additive Amendment. 327 00:15:43,597 --> 00:15:45,841 And basically those two laws require 328 00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:49,638 that new food chemicals be approved by FDA 329 00:15:49,741 --> 00:15:51,640 before they went into the market. 330 00:15:51,743 --> 00:15:53,883 As a result of the Color Additive Amendment, 331 00:15:53,987 --> 00:15:57,611 many color additives that were in use at that point in 1960 332 00:15:57,715 --> 00:15:59,372 are no longer in use today. 333 00:15:59,475 --> 00:16:01,098 So there was some recognition, 334 00:16:01,201 --> 00:16:02,616 and there has been recognition since 335 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:03,514 that the color additives 336 00:16:03,617 --> 00:16:07,621 that were in use were no longer safe. 337 00:16:07,725 --> 00:16:11,556 And so in the process of trying to regulate color additives, 338 00:16:11,660 --> 00:16:14,421 manufacturers of food dyes have to send a sample 339 00:16:14,525 --> 00:16:17,735 of every batch of color that they produce to FDA. 340 00:16:17,838 --> 00:16:20,910 And as far as I know, those are the only food chemicals 341 00:16:21,014 --> 00:16:23,879 that are subject to that type of certification. 342 00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:26,778 I guess, because again, there's just this great concern 343 00:16:26,882 --> 00:16:29,333 about the safety of color additives, 344 00:16:29,436 --> 00:16:30,990 more so than other additives. 345 00:16:32,336 --> 00:16:33,889 - [Brandon] Oh, that's a relief. 346 00:16:33,993 --> 00:16:37,272 Glad to know there's somebody looking out for us, right? 347 00:16:37,375 --> 00:16:39,584 - So even though policymakers recognize 348 00:16:39,688 --> 00:16:42,001 that there are some potential harms 349 00:16:42,104 --> 00:16:44,417 that come from ingesting color additives, 350 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,350 particularly synthetic color additives, 351 00:16:46,453 --> 00:16:49,767 they really haven't recognized the neurobehavioral effects 352 00:16:49,870 --> 00:16:50,906 of dyes yet. 353 00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:53,184 FDA really has danced around that one, 354 00:16:53,288 --> 00:16:55,773 and won't do much of anything to acknowledge that. 355 00:16:55,876 --> 00:16:57,223 They still characterize food dyes 356 00:16:57,326 --> 00:17:00,088 as very safe on their website. 357 00:17:02,918 --> 00:17:04,126 - In looking back, 358 00:17:04,230 --> 00:17:07,440 it was very much almost an abusive situation 359 00:17:07,543 --> 00:17:09,787 where the person that's being abused 360 00:17:11,237 --> 00:17:13,411 doesn't wanna make their abuser mad. 361 00:17:15,172 --> 00:17:17,312 But my abuser was a five-year-old child. 362 00:17:20,625 --> 00:17:24,836 Evan was born in 2013, and he was the cutest little baby, 363 00:17:24,940 --> 00:17:28,012 and he was the sweet little thing that would sit and cuddle. 364 00:17:28,116 --> 00:17:32,258 And in 2016, my next child was born, Eric. 365 00:17:32,361 --> 00:17:35,399 So we had a little girl and two little boys at that point. 366 00:17:35,502 --> 00:17:39,368 We were super happy and life was wonderful. 367 00:17:39,472 --> 00:17:43,890 And then in 2017, Evan started going to preschool 368 00:17:43,993 --> 00:17:47,273 and I didn't notice anything weird, 369 00:17:47,376 --> 00:17:49,482 but I remember the teacher telling me once in a while, 370 00:17:49,585 --> 00:17:52,761 like one of his little friends got up, 371 00:17:52,864 --> 00:17:54,211 and he was sitting next to her 372 00:17:54,314 --> 00:17:55,833 and he just pushed her back down into her chair. 373 00:17:55,936 --> 00:17:58,801 But it's preschool and everybody's doing crazy stuff. 374 00:17:58,905 --> 00:18:00,320 And I remember her saying, 375 00:18:00,424 --> 00:18:02,909 that kind of thing happens once in a while, not a big deal. 376 00:18:03,012 --> 00:18:07,155 And then in 2018, he turned five during the Summer, 377 00:18:07,258 --> 00:18:09,847 and so he was gonna go to kindergarten in the Fall. 378 00:18:11,262 --> 00:18:14,093 And we started seeing a lot of aggression 379 00:18:14,196 --> 00:18:17,475 just as this little five-year-old boy, 380 00:18:17,579 --> 00:18:22,066 he would lose control and turn into, 381 00:18:22,170 --> 00:18:23,723 we call it the Incredible Hulk. 382 00:18:24,758 --> 00:18:27,899 And I started to develop exit strategies 383 00:18:28,003 --> 00:18:30,764 for anywhere that I went. 384 00:18:30,868 --> 00:18:32,559 If I went to the park, 385 00:18:32,663 --> 00:18:34,492 I wanted to park close to the playground. 386 00:18:34,596 --> 00:18:38,462 So if Evan got upset, I could him to the car quickly. 387 00:18:38,565 --> 00:18:42,293 If I was going anywhere, I knew how to get out, 388 00:18:42,397 --> 00:18:45,296 and if I didn't know how to get out, I wouldn't go. 389 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,196 And so my world kind of closed in, 390 00:18:48,299 --> 00:18:52,269 and I couldn't go anywhere and I couldn't be a mom. 391 00:18:52,372 --> 00:18:57,170 I just spent all of my time trying to keep people safe 392 00:18:57,964 --> 00:18:59,690 instead of enjoying my children. 393 00:19:01,140 --> 00:19:04,488 As kindergarten started, it didn't get better, it got worse. 394 00:19:04,591 --> 00:19:08,595 And I started getting daily reports from the teacher 395 00:19:08,699 --> 00:19:11,564 that he was hitting people, kicking people, 396 00:19:11,667 --> 00:19:13,980 ripping things off the bulletin boards. 397 00:19:14,083 --> 00:19:16,741 After school time was terrible. 398 00:19:16,845 --> 00:19:19,468 And I remember his first day of kindergarten, 399 00:19:19,572 --> 00:19:21,815 he hopped on the bus excited and happy. 400 00:19:23,576 --> 00:19:25,371 And when he got off the bus, 401 00:19:25,474 --> 00:19:28,270 I was so excited to hear about his first day of school 402 00:19:29,375 --> 00:19:32,516 and he screamed in my face, just Ahh! 403 00:19:32,619 --> 00:19:35,829 Like from the bottom of his soul. 404 00:19:35,933 --> 00:19:39,661 And he stormed up the stairs and stormed into his room, 405 00:19:39,764 --> 00:19:40,800 and didn't come out 406 00:19:40,903 --> 00:19:44,079 and you could hear him throwing stuff around 407 00:19:44,183 --> 00:19:45,598 and being angry. 408 00:19:46,875 --> 00:19:49,395 And this was my tiny little five-year-old boy 409 00:19:49,498 --> 00:19:52,812 who just had a huge milestone that I wanted to hear about, 410 00:19:55,159 --> 00:19:56,540 and I didn't get to hear about it. 411 00:19:56,643 --> 00:19:58,818 And he didn't come out for an hour. 412 00:20:01,338 --> 00:20:03,754 And every day was like that. 413 00:20:03,857 --> 00:20:06,515 By February of his kindergarten year, 414 00:20:06,619 --> 00:20:11,693 I called his pediatrician and I said, something's wrong. 415 00:20:12,866 --> 00:20:14,420 And our pediatrician gave us a referral 416 00:20:14,523 --> 00:20:15,593 to a neuropsychologist. 417 00:20:15,697 --> 00:20:18,113 And I came in and we had an interview, 418 00:20:18,217 --> 00:20:20,943 and I told him everything that was going on. 419 00:20:21,047 --> 00:20:25,154 And I remember trying to put it into words like, 420 00:20:25,258 --> 00:20:28,399 my kid is having a hard time, 421 00:20:28,503 --> 00:20:30,746 but it's not that he had a bad day, 422 00:20:31,609 --> 00:20:34,612 he's kind of having a bad life 423 00:20:34,716 --> 00:20:36,683 and so we're all having a bad life. 424 00:20:36,787 --> 00:20:41,067 And he said, you know, from what you're telling me, 425 00:20:41,170 --> 00:20:44,243 he sounds consistently inconsistent. 426 00:20:45,796 --> 00:20:48,108 Yes! That's what I've been trying to describe, 427 00:20:48,212 --> 00:20:49,869 consistently inconsistent. 428 00:20:49,972 --> 00:20:54,045 That's why as I've been reading a book about ADHD, 429 00:20:54,149 --> 00:20:57,911 or reading a book about anxiety or reading a book about OCD, 430 00:20:58,015 --> 00:20:59,050 it didn't make sense. 431 00:20:59,154 --> 00:21:01,363 It was not that. 432 00:21:01,467 --> 00:21:06,334 And so we had him do some neuropsychological evaluation 433 00:21:07,473 --> 00:21:09,164 and the doctor explained to us, he said, 434 00:21:09,268 --> 00:21:12,512 we can keep him in therapy or we can add some medication 435 00:21:12,616 --> 00:21:14,514 and see if that can help. 436 00:21:14,618 --> 00:21:16,792 So we went back to the pediatrician, 437 00:21:16,896 --> 00:21:21,107 and he prescribed some medication and we started him on it 438 00:21:21,210 --> 00:21:24,386 and we saw a blip of improvement. 439 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,113 - The Center for Science In The Public Interest 440 00:21:27,216 --> 00:21:28,977 is your food and health watchdog. 441 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,875 We've been around for more than 50 years, 442 00:21:30,979 --> 00:21:32,636 and we've been sort of the major pushers 443 00:21:32,739 --> 00:21:34,638 behind some of the biggest policy wins in the food, 444 00:21:34,741 --> 00:21:36,122 nutrition space in that time. 445 00:21:36,225 --> 00:21:38,158 So for example, we led the charge 446 00:21:38,262 --> 00:21:40,299 on getting the nutrition facts panel added 447 00:21:40,402 --> 00:21:42,301 to food packaging, and then thereafter 448 00:21:42,404 --> 00:21:43,681 we got the added sugar line added 449 00:21:43,785 --> 00:21:45,511 to that Nutrition facts panel. 450 00:21:45,614 --> 00:21:49,342 So we've been deeply invested in improving transparency, 451 00:21:49,446 --> 00:21:52,138 and safety and accountability in the food system 452 00:21:52,241 --> 00:21:53,691 in the U.S. for decades. 453 00:21:53,795 --> 00:21:55,486 - My job at the Center for Science In The Public Interest 454 00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:58,178 was evaluating the safety of additives. 455 00:21:58,282 --> 00:22:00,284 Most additives are perfectly safe, 456 00:22:00,388 --> 00:22:01,803 even if they're synthetic. 457 00:22:01,906 --> 00:22:03,770 And of course some natural additives are not safe. 458 00:22:03,874 --> 00:22:07,084 So of all the additives I've evaluated, 459 00:22:07,187 --> 00:22:10,156 synthetic food dyes are very close to the top of my list 460 00:22:10,259 --> 00:22:12,261 of additives that I'm concerned about. 461 00:22:12,365 --> 00:22:13,780 You might be surprised to know 462 00:22:13,884 --> 00:22:17,405 that there are thousands of chemicals that are permitted 463 00:22:17,508 --> 00:22:18,854 to be added to food. 464 00:22:18,958 --> 00:22:21,512 And I think most people think that there's somebody 465 00:22:21,616 --> 00:22:23,134 in the government that's making sure 466 00:22:23,238 --> 00:22:26,137 that each additive has been well tested before it's allowed 467 00:22:26,241 --> 00:22:27,898 to be added to food. 468 00:22:28,001 --> 00:22:30,383 But unfortunately that is not the case. 469 00:22:30,487 --> 00:22:34,422 Many additives added to food hardly have any data 470 00:22:34,525 --> 00:22:36,389 on them at all. 471 00:22:36,493 --> 00:22:39,219 That's why synthetic food dyes are so unusual. 472 00:22:39,323 --> 00:22:41,325 I can't tell you how unusual it is 473 00:22:41,429 --> 00:22:44,604 that we have 27 clinical trials in children 474 00:22:44,708 --> 00:22:46,468 on synthetic food dyes. 475 00:22:46,572 --> 00:22:48,505 I can't think of any other additive like that. 476 00:22:48,608 --> 00:22:49,644 - In terms of the clinical trials, 477 00:22:49,747 --> 00:22:51,818 food dyes are like air pollutants. 478 00:22:51,922 --> 00:22:54,752 What you see is a general effect on the population. 479 00:22:54,856 --> 00:22:57,099 So kids who have no problems 480 00:22:57,203 --> 00:22:59,205 with attention will move along the spectrum a little bit, 481 00:22:59,308 --> 00:23:01,000 but they're still in normal range. 482 00:23:01,103 --> 00:23:03,520 Kids who have some problems will move along the spectrum, 483 00:23:03,623 --> 00:23:05,073 perhaps into the problem range. 484 00:23:05,176 --> 00:23:07,765 The same is true for lead exposure at low levels 485 00:23:07,869 --> 00:23:09,802 for certain air pollutants, 486 00:23:09,905 --> 00:23:11,320 they have a general population effect. 487 00:23:11,424 --> 00:23:13,219 Some people are not affected at all, 488 00:23:13,322 --> 00:23:14,807 some people are affected somewhat, 489 00:23:14,910 --> 00:23:17,292 and then it depends on what the baseline is, 490 00:23:17,396 --> 00:23:19,121 whether that becomes a problem for them. 491 00:23:19,225 --> 00:23:24,230 - FDA has the authority to reassess a chemical, 492 00:23:24,333 --> 00:23:27,406 a food additive whenever they want, 493 00:23:27,509 --> 00:23:29,649 but they're not obligated to do so. 494 00:23:29,753 --> 00:23:32,928 So chemicals we know are harmful stay 495 00:23:33,032 --> 00:23:35,621 in our food way too long 496 00:23:35,724 --> 00:23:39,072 because FDA is not proactively reassessing chemicals. 497 00:23:39,176 --> 00:23:43,732 - They don't spend, it seems almost any time looking back 498 00:23:43,836 --> 00:23:48,875 at color additives that were approved decades ago 499 00:23:50,083 --> 00:23:52,948 based on studies that are nowhere near up 500 00:23:53,052 --> 00:23:54,571 to today's standards. 501 00:23:54,674 --> 00:23:56,227 Those just stay on the market. 502 00:23:56,331 --> 00:23:57,781 It seems forever 503 00:23:57,884 --> 00:24:00,577 until a group like Center for Science In the Public Interest 504 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,095 petitions them to ban them. 505 00:24:05,098 --> 00:24:08,412 - It's just so crazy how something you don't know about 506 00:24:08,516 --> 00:24:09,620 could have such a huge effect on behavior. 507 00:24:09,724 --> 00:24:11,657 Can you imagine like all these kids 508 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,660 that get labeled as behavior kids, what if it was just dye? 509 00:24:14,763 --> 00:24:16,938 If I had to think back to his life before and after dyes, 510 00:24:17,041 --> 00:24:19,665 I mean, it is literally like Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde. 511 00:24:19,768 --> 00:24:22,978 I mean, it's night and day, it's been a switch. 512 00:24:23,082 --> 00:24:25,705 For me and Rex, a lot of other things have become easier 513 00:24:25,809 --> 00:24:27,983 because we took care of this dye situation. 514 00:24:29,260 --> 00:24:30,917 I decided to become a mom through using a donor. 515 00:24:31,021 --> 00:24:32,436 One of my very best friends donated for me 516 00:24:32,540 --> 00:24:34,162 to be able to have my son. 517 00:24:34,265 --> 00:24:35,750 I, you know, still looking, 518 00:24:35,853 --> 00:24:37,786 I'm just kidding. [chuckles] 519 00:24:37,890 --> 00:24:41,238 No, so I became a single parent on purpose. 520 00:24:41,341 --> 00:24:42,550 When we started our journey, 521 00:24:42,653 --> 00:24:45,518 you know, as mother and son, kind of our two team, 522 00:24:45,622 --> 00:24:47,762 I started noticing things about him and reactions 523 00:24:47,865 --> 00:24:49,695 when he was about 18 months old. 524 00:24:49,798 --> 00:24:51,075 But it just took a little bit of more time 525 00:24:51,179 --> 00:24:53,699 and education before I figured out what it was. 526 00:24:53,802 --> 00:24:56,460 Looking back, our story started when he was four, 527 00:24:56,564 --> 00:24:57,288 right before pre-K. 528 00:24:57,392 --> 00:24:58,842 He was at a camp, 529 00:24:58,945 --> 00:25:01,223 and he had been eating this colorful cereal every day 530 00:25:01,327 --> 00:25:03,571 as a snack that was provided. 531 00:25:03,674 --> 00:25:05,642 Probably three weeks into the camp 532 00:25:05,745 --> 00:25:07,229 is when I started getting phone calls every day, 533 00:25:07,333 --> 00:25:10,060 every other day that he was running out of the building, 534 00:25:10,163 --> 00:25:11,061 he was hitting other kids. 535 00:25:11,164 --> 00:25:13,166 He was just exploding. 536 00:25:14,616 --> 00:25:16,307 The kind of final straw day was when I got a call 537 00:25:16,411 --> 00:25:17,654 that I had to come get him again. 538 00:25:17,757 --> 00:25:20,588 So I went into the room and he was basically manic. 539 00:25:20,691 --> 00:25:23,038 I mean, he was crying and laughing at the same time, 540 00:25:23,142 --> 00:25:24,868 and I said, what's going on? What's wrong? 541 00:25:24,971 --> 00:25:26,076 He said, I don't know, mommy. 542 00:25:26,179 --> 00:25:27,974 My brain is fuzzy, my brain is fuzzy. 543 00:25:28,078 --> 00:25:29,907 So I remember sitting on the staircase with him, 544 00:25:30,011 --> 00:25:32,116 and I'm crying and he's crying. 545 00:25:32,220 --> 00:25:33,221 I just said, what's going on buddy? 546 00:25:33,324 --> 00:25:34,222 He's like, I don't know. 547 00:25:34,325 --> 00:25:35,430 I said, why are you doing this? 548 00:25:35,534 --> 00:25:36,949 He's like, I don't know. I can't help it. 549 00:25:37,052 --> 00:25:38,226 I don't know why I'm doing it. 550 00:25:38,329 --> 00:25:40,815 And I said, okay, let's go home. 551 00:25:40,918 --> 00:25:41,781 We're gonna figure something out. 552 00:25:41,885 --> 00:25:43,127 So I go home, get him settled 553 00:25:43,231 --> 00:25:45,578 and I start Googling sugar and behavior. 554 00:25:45,682 --> 00:25:47,200 You know, he'd been having a lot of sugar lately. 555 00:25:47,304 --> 00:25:48,685 So in that Google thing, 556 00:25:48,788 --> 00:25:52,067 I saw a red dye behavior article, clicked on that, 557 00:25:52,171 --> 00:25:54,829 found a YouTube video about red dye. 558 00:25:54,932 --> 00:25:56,520 And I said, okay, there's something behind this. 559 00:25:56,624 --> 00:25:57,659 Let me see what I can figure out. 560 00:25:57,763 --> 00:25:59,178 I just knew this wasn't my kid. 561 00:25:59,281 --> 00:26:00,282 I knew something was wrong. 562 00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:07,082 - In 1990, FDA themselves concluded 563 00:26:07,186 --> 00:26:10,120 that the color additive red 3 causes cancer 564 00:26:10,223 --> 00:26:11,915 when ingested by animals. 565 00:26:12,018 --> 00:26:17,092 As an effect, they banned the use of red 3 in cosmetics 566 00:26:18,438 --> 00:26:21,787 and externally applied drugs, but did not ban it in food 567 00:26:21,890 --> 00:26:23,271 and ingested drugs. 568 00:26:23,374 --> 00:26:26,377 So animals ate the red 3, 569 00:26:26,481 --> 00:26:28,966 got cancer, FDA bans it in cosmetics, 570 00:26:29,070 --> 00:26:30,554 and externally applied drugs, 571 00:26:30,658 --> 00:26:33,453 allows it in food and ingested drugs. 572 00:26:33,557 --> 00:26:35,317 And the reasons why that came to be 573 00:26:35,421 --> 00:26:38,355 are sort of complicated regulatory process. 574 00:26:38,458 --> 00:26:41,669 It's not because FDA somehow thinks that it's safe 575 00:26:41,772 --> 00:26:43,222 for use in food. 576 00:26:43,325 --> 00:26:48,227 And in fact, FDA is actually statutorily, legally obligated 577 00:26:49,953 --> 00:26:52,714 to prohibit color and food additives that induce cancer 578 00:26:52,818 --> 00:26:55,855 when consumed by animals or humans. 579 00:26:55,959 --> 00:26:57,236 This is called the Delaney Clause, 580 00:26:57,339 --> 00:26:59,410 and it's a part of both the Color Additive Amendment 581 00:26:59,514 --> 00:27:00,860 and the Food Additive Amendment. 582 00:27:00,964 --> 00:27:03,345 After the Color Additive Amendment was passed in 1960, 583 00:27:04,864 --> 00:27:07,626 all of the color additives that were in use at the time 584 00:27:07,729 --> 00:27:09,628 were basically put on this provisional list 585 00:27:09,731 --> 00:27:11,871 that allowed the continued use 586 00:27:11,975 --> 00:27:14,494 while FDA sort of vetted their safety. 587 00:27:14,598 --> 00:27:16,669 Then proponents of the color additives, 588 00:27:16,773 --> 00:27:19,327 the people who make them don't want to use them could 589 00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:21,950 petition FDA and ask them to take them off 590 00:27:22,054 --> 00:27:23,780 that provisional list, make them permanently approved. 591 00:27:23,883 --> 00:27:25,782 This happened for red 3 in food 592 00:27:25,885 --> 00:27:28,232 and ingested drugs in 1969. 593 00:27:28,336 --> 00:27:32,064 - So when FDA originally approved red 3, 594 00:27:32,167 --> 00:27:35,308 it did so on the basis of the studies at the time. 595 00:27:35,412 --> 00:27:40,279 And we've known that it causes cancer since the early 80's 596 00:27:41,798 --> 00:27:43,316 and it was banned from cosmetics in 1990, 597 00:27:43,420 --> 00:27:45,733 but it had already been permanently approved 598 00:27:45,836 --> 00:27:49,564 for use in foods and ingested drugs. 599 00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:53,672 - So FDA decided that they couldn't ban all uses at once 600 00:27:53,775 --> 00:27:56,295 in response to the cosmetics petition. 601 00:27:56,398 --> 00:27:58,297 They said they were going to take steps to ban it in food 602 00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,747 and ingested drugs. 603 00:27:59,850 --> 00:28:02,750 And red 3 is still present in food and drugs. 604 00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:08,479 - All right, so coincidentally as I'm editing 605 00:28:08,583 --> 00:28:09,998 the section of the film, 606 00:28:10,102 --> 00:28:12,138 there's some pretty interesting things going on. 607 00:28:12,242 --> 00:28:15,590 So just last week in the state of California, 608 00:28:15,694 --> 00:28:18,282 legislature passed a bill that would ban 609 00:28:18,386 --> 00:28:21,941 the use of red 3 and three other chemicals in food 610 00:28:22,045 --> 00:28:24,047 and drinks in the state. 611 00:28:24,150 --> 00:28:25,807 - California's unprecedented bill 612 00:28:25,911 --> 00:28:28,672 to ban four food additives is now heading 613 00:28:28,776 --> 00:28:30,467 to Governor Newsom's desk. 614 00:28:30,570 --> 00:28:33,884 It includes red dye number 3, potassium bromate, 615 00:28:33,988 --> 00:28:36,887 brominated vegetable oil, and propyl paraben. 616 00:28:36,991 --> 00:28:39,131 The chemicals have been linked to cancer, 617 00:28:39,234 --> 00:28:42,548 reproductive problems and developmental issues in children. 618 00:28:42,651 --> 00:28:43,791 - So I know what you're thinking, 619 00:28:43,894 --> 00:28:46,586 like that's cool for California, 620 00:28:46,690 --> 00:28:48,761 but what if I don't live in California? 621 00:28:48,865 --> 00:28:50,452 Well, let me put this in perspective for you. 622 00:28:50,556 --> 00:28:53,628 California is about 12% of the U.S. population, 623 00:28:53,732 --> 00:28:55,285 which gives it a pretty significant amount 624 00:28:55,388 --> 00:28:56,804 of economic influence. 625 00:28:56,907 --> 00:28:59,323 It's said that if California were a separate country, 626 00:28:59,427 --> 00:29:02,119 it would rank as the fifth largest economy in the world. 627 00:29:02,223 --> 00:29:03,914 If the governor signs this ban, 628 00:29:04,018 --> 00:29:07,676 manufacturers using red 3 face about three options. 629 00:29:07,780 --> 00:29:09,609 Stop selling their products in California, 630 00:29:09,713 --> 00:29:11,957 which is unlikely due to the population. 631 00:29:12,060 --> 00:29:14,442 They could create two versions of their products, 632 00:29:14,545 --> 00:29:17,203 one for California and one for the rest of the country. 633 00:29:17,307 --> 00:29:19,619 Or they could change their formula removing red 3 634 00:29:19,723 --> 00:29:20,828 altogether so they could continue 635 00:29:20,931 --> 00:29:22,657 to sell their products everywhere. 636 00:29:22,761 --> 00:29:24,901 This could be the start of something big. 637 00:29:29,664 --> 00:29:33,495 - It's just like not, it's not part of the conversation. 638 00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:36,567 I would not believe my story if I hadn't lived my story. 639 00:29:36,671 --> 00:29:38,535 I'd be like, she's crazy. 640 00:29:38,638 --> 00:29:40,951 I knew it was my last time being pregnant and having a baby, 641 00:29:41,055 --> 00:29:42,711 so I soaked it up. 642 00:29:42,815 --> 00:29:46,301 Mercie was attached to me, my Velcro child. 643 00:29:46,405 --> 00:29:50,478 Like wanted to be in my arms, and be held and right near me. 644 00:29:50,581 --> 00:29:52,618 And so it was a very... 645 00:29:52,721 --> 00:29:55,069 Just really sweet babyhood. 646 00:29:55,172 --> 00:29:57,381 When she was about two and a half, 647 00:29:57,485 --> 00:30:00,522 she had, had back to back ear infections. 648 00:30:00,626 --> 00:30:02,559 We had to move to a different type of antibiotic 649 00:30:02,662 --> 00:30:06,011 that we hadn't used and our pediatrician had warned us, 650 00:30:06,114 --> 00:30:11,154 you know that a lot of times it causes red stool in babies 651 00:30:12,672 --> 00:30:15,192 and children and not to worry like that was totally normal. 652 00:30:15,296 --> 00:30:16,573 So I was like, okay, no big deal. 653 00:30:16,676 --> 00:30:18,817 If that's what she's recommending, it must be okay. 654 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,820 The second day, something just changed 655 00:30:21,923 --> 00:30:26,548 and she was raging like inconsolable, and crying 656 00:30:27,722 --> 00:30:29,137 and everything was irritating her. 657 00:30:29,241 --> 00:30:33,245 And just lay down the floor fits like, and it scared me 658 00:30:33,348 --> 00:30:35,350 because I couldn't console her. 659 00:30:35,454 --> 00:30:36,627 I couldn't calm her down. 660 00:30:36,731 --> 00:30:38,526 So I called my doctor and explained what was going on. 661 00:30:38,629 --> 00:30:40,355 I think she thought I was a little bit cuckoo, 662 00:30:40,459 --> 00:30:45,464 and we got her off that and her symptoms went away. 663 00:30:46,637 --> 00:30:48,501 Within a day or two after that, they improved. 664 00:30:48,605 --> 00:30:50,538 But I thought it was something unique to that. 665 00:30:50,641 --> 00:30:51,988 I didn't place it at that time. 666 00:30:52,091 --> 00:30:56,647 Six months later, Mercie's behavior started to change. 667 00:30:56,751 --> 00:30:58,580 She wasn't as easygoing. 668 00:30:58,684 --> 00:31:02,343 She was having more fits, having more tantrums, 669 00:31:03,654 --> 00:31:07,313 melting down over things that she hadn't before. 670 00:31:07,417 --> 00:31:12,111 That went on for about a year and a half, 671 00:31:12,215 --> 00:31:13,733 and it was progressing. 672 00:31:13,837 --> 00:31:16,288 And in her 4-year-old year being verbal, 673 00:31:16,391 --> 00:31:17,668 and being able to express so much, 674 00:31:17,772 --> 00:31:19,981 she would scream that she hated us, 675 00:31:20,085 --> 00:31:22,846 that she wanted to kill us, that she wanted us to die. 676 00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:26,712 In the car, she would unbuckle her car seats 677 00:31:26,815 --> 00:31:29,439 and take off her clothes in the car 678 00:31:29,542 --> 00:31:32,373 because she'd get so mad and so hot. 679 00:31:32,476 --> 00:31:34,478 It was like she was wanting to crawl out of her skin. 680 00:31:34,582 --> 00:31:36,929 Like she was so uncomfortable in her body, 681 00:31:37,033 --> 00:31:38,758 and it felt like we were walking around eggshells 682 00:31:38,862 --> 00:31:40,105 all the time. 683 00:31:40,208 --> 00:31:43,073 Her sleep was insane. 684 00:31:43,177 --> 00:31:45,662 She could not sleep in the evenings, 685 00:31:45,765 --> 00:31:49,838 she would be awake till two and three, just restless. 686 00:31:49,942 --> 00:31:51,806 And then she would sleep in every morning. 687 00:31:51,910 --> 00:31:54,705 So that was another part of why it was so hard to like plan 688 00:31:54,809 --> 00:31:55,948 and go places. 689 00:31:56,052 --> 00:31:57,639 And we felt like we weren't parenting right, 690 00:31:57,743 --> 00:31:59,987 and we were doing something wrong, 691 00:32:00,090 --> 00:32:02,955 and all that we could do was stay out of her way 692 00:32:03,059 --> 00:32:04,888 and try to keep her safe somehow. 693 00:32:04,992 --> 00:32:07,580 It felt like whatever was going on with her 694 00:32:07,684 --> 00:32:09,203 was holding us all hostage. 695 00:32:09,306 --> 00:32:11,791 And that is not a typical tantrum. 696 00:32:11,895 --> 00:32:15,312 It was something we could not contain. 697 00:32:15,416 --> 00:32:18,074 So take her to a child psychologist. 698 00:32:18,177 --> 00:32:19,938 They said she's too young, 699 00:32:20,041 --> 00:32:22,561 but she had all the markers for bipolar. 700 00:32:24,183 --> 00:32:27,014 You need to bring her back in another year or two 701 00:32:27,117 --> 00:32:28,187 when she's a little bit older 702 00:32:28,291 --> 00:32:31,052 and mood stabilizing medication 703 00:32:31,156 --> 00:32:34,262 is gonna be your only option. 704 00:32:34,366 --> 00:32:39,164 And I was so crushed and I felt so scared for her. 705 00:32:39,267 --> 00:32:40,993 I felt scared for our family. 706 00:32:41,097 --> 00:32:42,788 Like I didn't know if Dustin and I were gonna be able 707 00:32:42,891 --> 00:32:44,824 to hang on and hold us all together. 708 00:32:44,928 --> 00:32:46,895 It felt so terrible for our other kids. 709 00:32:46,999 --> 00:32:49,519 It always felt like they were getting hurt by her 710 00:32:49,622 --> 00:32:52,142 in one way, verbally or physically. 711 00:32:52,246 --> 00:32:56,250 And I was so sad to think of like, this is her whole life 712 00:32:56,353 --> 00:32:58,183 and is she even gonna make it to 18? 713 00:32:58,286 --> 00:33:00,047 Is she even gonna like see 21? 714 00:33:00,150 --> 00:33:02,981 I don't know, because she feels so volatile. 715 00:33:05,673 --> 00:33:09,228 - I got invited to participate in a meta analytic study 716 00:33:09,332 --> 00:33:10,678 of all the literature on food dyes. 717 00:33:10,781 --> 00:33:12,128 I was invited because of my work 718 00:33:12,231 --> 00:33:14,337 on environmental risk factors and genetic risk factors 719 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,718 in ADHD and how they fit together. 720 00:33:16,822 --> 00:33:20,653 And I initially agreed to lead this review thinking 721 00:33:20,757 --> 00:33:25,520 that we would debunk the, what I viewed as an overemphasis 722 00:33:25,624 --> 00:33:27,315 on things like food dyes and so on. 723 00:33:27,419 --> 00:33:28,627 And I was partly motivated by knowing 724 00:33:28,730 --> 00:33:32,010 that there are a lot of phony claims about ADHD, 725 00:33:32,113 --> 00:33:33,459 and a lot of bogus treatments proposed. 726 00:33:33,563 --> 00:33:36,428 And I was on a mission to help debunk some of this stuff. 727 00:33:36,531 --> 00:33:38,706 And so it came as a bit of a surprise to me 728 00:33:38,809 --> 00:33:40,604 when we looked at the data and actually saw 729 00:33:40,708 --> 00:33:42,951 that there actually seemed to be an effect there 730 00:33:43,055 --> 00:33:44,367 for food dyes. 731 00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:46,541 If synthetic dyes are having a small but real effect 732 00:33:46,645 --> 00:33:49,751 on the population, which the data seems to suggest they do, 733 00:33:49,855 --> 00:33:52,823 that is gonna generally lead to a slight increase 734 00:33:52,927 --> 00:33:54,066 in attention problems 735 00:33:54,170 --> 00:33:56,137 and hyperactivity problems in children. 736 00:33:56,241 --> 00:33:58,553 And all that follows from that with a slight increase 737 00:33:58,657 --> 00:34:01,177 in diagnoses, a slight increase in kids 738 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,385 who are having problems in school, 739 00:34:02,488 --> 00:34:04,421 and associated costs of that. 740 00:34:04,525 --> 00:34:06,734 So it's like any other risk factor. 741 00:34:06,837 --> 00:34:08,736 The more of these you have, the more you slightly move 742 00:34:08,839 --> 00:34:10,531 the population into a direction 743 00:34:10,634 --> 00:34:13,292 where more people are actually having clinical problems. 744 00:34:13,396 --> 00:34:14,949 - So if you ask a scientist 745 00:34:15,053 --> 00:34:17,193 if they think there should be more research, 746 00:34:17,296 --> 00:34:18,401 they're always gonna say yes. 747 00:34:18,504 --> 00:34:20,610 It's like if I ask my partner 748 00:34:20,713 --> 00:34:22,301 if he would like another tool for his garage, 749 00:34:22,405 --> 00:34:24,096 he's gonna say yes. 750 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,099 But the fact is, is that we know enough now 751 00:34:27,203 --> 00:34:30,137 to say we should not be exposing children 752 00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:31,517 to synthetic food dyes. 753 00:34:31,621 --> 00:34:33,623 - We've been working on this since the 70's. 754 00:34:33,726 --> 00:34:35,659 There's enough science now to show 755 00:34:35,763 --> 00:34:38,076 that these shouldn't be in any products ingested 756 00:34:38,179 --> 00:34:39,318 by humans at all. 757 00:34:39,422 --> 00:34:41,389 It's incredibly frustrating to me 758 00:34:41,493 --> 00:34:44,806 to see these multinational companies based in the U.S, 759 00:34:44,910 --> 00:34:47,430 mass produced products for the European market 760 00:34:47,533 --> 00:34:48,776 and other countries in the world 761 00:34:48,879 --> 00:34:50,571 with natural alternatives in, 762 00:34:50,674 --> 00:34:53,815 but leave the synthetic food dye here in the U.S. 763 00:34:53,919 --> 00:34:57,371 There's just genuinely no point to having dye in there 764 00:34:57,474 --> 00:35:00,132 other than to market to us to make money. 765 00:35:00,236 --> 00:35:03,239 - The three most used dyes in the United States, 766 00:35:03,342 --> 00:35:07,967 red 40, yellow 5 and yellow 6, those are all azo dyes. 767 00:35:08,071 --> 00:35:10,315 And the reason you hear about azo dyes 768 00:35:10,418 --> 00:35:13,766 is because the British government sponsored a study 769 00:35:13,870 --> 00:35:15,354 of azo dyes. 770 00:35:15,458 --> 00:35:18,495 - The food dye that can be a trigger has mostly disappeared 771 00:35:18,599 --> 00:35:20,428 from the food supply in Europe. 772 00:35:20,532 --> 00:35:22,637 European regulators ordered food makers 773 00:35:22,741 --> 00:35:24,122 to put warning labels 774 00:35:24,225 --> 00:35:25,778 on things containing certain food dyes. 775 00:35:25,882 --> 00:35:28,195 Many food companies decided instead to remove 776 00:35:28,298 --> 00:35:31,439 the synthetic dyes, reformulating the recipes there, 777 00:35:31,543 --> 00:35:34,166 but continuing to sell the old versions here. 778 00:35:34,270 --> 00:35:36,341 - [Brandon] Since the beginning of this project, 779 00:35:36,444 --> 00:35:39,585 one of the most controversial and often misunderstood topics 780 00:35:39,689 --> 00:35:41,242 has been the presence of a warning label 781 00:35:41,346 --> 00:35:44,142 or outright ban on synthetic dyes in certain countries, 782 00:35:44,245 --> 00:35:46,730 while the U.S. still allows them to remain. 783 00:35:46,834 --> 00:35:48,698 To learn more about the why and the how, 784 00:35:48,801 --> 00:35:50,907 we traveled across the pond to London, England 785 00:35:51,010 --> 00:35:53,565 to have a conversation with Dr. Jim Stevenson. 786 00:35:53,668 --> 00:35:55,532 Dr. Stevenson is a leading researcher 787 00:35:55,636 --> 00:35:57,293 whose work in Europe has been instrumental 788 00:35:57,396 --> 00:35:59,950 in shaping policy around synthetic dyes. 789 00:36:00,054 --> 00:36:01,504 - I got involved 790 00:36:01,607 --> 00:36:03,747 because I thought it was an important public health issue. 791 00:36:03,851 --> 00:36:06,094 This is something that you can act on 792 00:36:06,198 --> 00:36:08,131 without particular cost. 793 00:36:08,235 --> 00:36:10,202 You can take additives out of children's diets, 794 00:36:10,306 --> 00:36:11,928 and it's something that's simple. 795 00:36:12,031 --> 00:36:14,551 The rest of the influences on children's behavior, 796 00:36:14,655 --> 00:36:17,347 particularly ADHD, for example, are complex 797 00:36:17,451 --> 00:36:19,107 and are things you can't do anything about. 798 00:36:19,211 --> 00:36:22,249 Things like genetics, you're not gonna change the genetics, 799 00:36:22,352 --> 00:36:24,112 but what you can do is to change the diet. 800 00:36:24,216 --> 00:36:27,185 But what happened in the UK was that the British government 801 00:36:27,288 --> 00:36:30,222 were under some pressure from parents 802 00:36:30,326 --> 00:36:34,157 to investigate whether dyes were having an effect 803 00:36:34,261 --> 00:36:36,228 on not just children with ADHD, 804 00:36:36,332 --> 00:36:38,265 but children in the general population. 805 00:36:38,368 --> 00:36:41,302 I was then working with a pediatrician, John Warner 806 00:36:41,406 --> 00:36:43,028 who was interested in that issue. 807 00:36:43,131 --> 00:36:45,203 And between us, we applied for funds 808 00:36:45,306 --> 00:36:48,551 and did one study on the Isle of Wight, 809 00:36:48,654 --> 00:36:51,830 which is a small island off the south coast of England. 810 00:36:51,933 --> 00:36:54,557 That showed some initially encouraging results, 811 00:36:54,660 --> 00:36:57,594 encouraging in the sense that we got a positive effect 812 00:36:57,698 --> 00:36:58,975 of dyes on children's behavior. 813 00:36:59,078 --> 00:37:02,185 And we were then commissioned by the UK government 814 00:37:02,289 --> 00:37:05,430 to then replicate that in what became known 815 00:37:05,533 --> 00:37:07,052 as the Southampton study. 816 00:37:07,155 --> 00:37:10,020 What we were doing in these two studies was looking 817 00:37:10,124 --> 00:37:11,298 at the effect of dyes 818 00:37:11,401 --> 00:37:14,301 on what we call hyperactivity in children. 819 00:37:14,404 --> 00:37:18,236 Now, hyperactivity in the way that I'm using that term 820 00:37:18,339 --> 00:37:21,411 is a measure of three aspects of behavior. 821 00:37:21,515 --> 00:37:24,449 One is activity lever itself, how much they move around. 822 00:37:24,552 --> 00:37:27,521 One is impulsivity, how much they respond immediately 823 00:37:27,624 --> 00:37:29,316 to actions without thinking. 824 00:37:29,419 --> 00:37:30,662 And the other is inattention, 825 00:37:30,765 --> 00:37:32,733 whether they can remain on task. 826 00:37:32,836 --> 00:37:34,182 Quite large samples. 827 00:37:34,286 --> 00:37:37,393 On the Isle of Wight, about 250. 828 00:37:37,496 --> 00:37:40,465 And in Southampton, two samples of about 150. 829 00:37:40,568 --> 00:37:43,502 We took those children from ordinary schools, 830 00:37:43,606 --> 00:37:48,473 and then got their parents to put them on a dye free diet 831 00:37:48,990 --> 00:37:50,440 for a week. 832 00:37:50,544 --> 00:37:52,822 We then gave them a drink, which we had constructed, 833 00:37:52,925 --> 00:37:55,549 which either had the dyes in or didn't. 834 00:37:55,652 --> 00:37:57,033 And if it didn't have the dyes in, 835 00:37:57,136 --> 00:37:58,897 it was just ordinary fruit juice. 836 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,797 We then monitored their behavior in a number of settings. 837 00:38:02,901 --> 00:38:04,143 One was in the school. 838 00:38:04,247 --> 00:38:07,181 We also got the parents to rate their children's behavior 839 00:38:07,285 --> 00:38:09,425 and their teachers to rate their behavior. 840 00:38:10,426 --> 00:38:12,531 We also, with the older children, 841 00:38:12,635 --> 00:38:14,568 sent them a computer-based task 842 00:38:14,671 --> 00:38:16,639 that measured things like attention. 843 00:38:16,742 --> 00:38:20,781 What we found was that when they were on the dyes, 844 00:38:20,884 --> 00:38:23,335 their scores on the hyperactivity measure were elevated 845 00:38:23,439 --> 00:38:26,373 compared to the time when they're on the placebo. 846 00:38:26,476 --> 00:38:29,721 At the time, the UK was part of the European Union. 847 00:38:29,824 --> 00:38:31,412 The European government decided 848 00:38:31,516 --> 00:38:34,001 that on the basis of our work, that there was evidence 849 00:38:34,104 --> 00:38:37,487 that there was an adverse effect on children's behavior, 850 00:38:37,591 --> 00:38:39,696 and they required manufacturers to put a warning label 851 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,664 on the foods to that effect. 852 00:38:41,767 --> 00:38:44,322 What of course happened was that the manufacturers 853 00:38:44,425 --> 00:38:46,669 didn't like having their foods labeled, 854 00:38:46,772 --> 00:38:51,259 so they decided to take the things out the foods themselves. 855 00:38:51,363 --> 00:38:52,813 The important thing about the work 856 00:38:52,916 --> 00:38:56,989 that we did was that it's called a randomized control trial. 857 00:38:57,093 --> 00:38:59,992 Now that is the gold standard for demonstrating causality 858 00:39:00,096 --> 00:39:01,649 in this kind of world. 859 00:39:01,753 --> 00:39:04,514 It is us manipulating experimentally 860 00:39:04,618 --> 00:39:07,379 what the child's being exposed to at a particular time, 861 00:39:07,483 --> 00:39:09,554 and we're demonstrating an adverse change 862 00:39:09,657 --> 00:39:10,900 in the child's behavior. 863 00:39:11,003 --> 00:39:12,764 To explain the kind of effects we're seeing, 864 00:39:12,867 --> 00:39:14,938 not all children respond to dyes. 865 00:39:15,042 --> 00:39:18,563 Some children respond more, some children respond less. 866 00:39:18,666 --> 00:39:21,635 So it's a small change on average for the population, 867 00:39:21,738 --> 00:39:24,810 but it's one that has some long-term consequences. 868 00:39:25,846 --> 00:39:27,572 - [Brandon] With all of the data 869 00:39:27,675 --> 00:39:29,505 and scientific evidence underscoring the potential hazards 870 00:39:29,608 --> 00:39:32,335 of synthetic dyes, it's only logical to expect 871 00:39:32,439 --> 00:39:34,199 that some of the major players would step up 872 00:39:34,302 --> 00:39:35,959 and remove these chemicals. 873 00:39:36,063 --> 00:39:38,168 It's a seemingly straightforward move, 874 00:39:38,272 --> 00:39:39,756 eliminate a potential health risk 875 00:39:39,860 --> 00:39:41,517 and demonstrate genuine concern 876 00:39:41,620 --> 00:39:43,208 for your consumer's well-being. 877 00:39:43,311 --> 00:39:45,693 A win-win scenario, right? 878 00:39:45,797 --> 00:39:48,731 Well, as it turns out, a couple actually tried, 879 00:39:48,834 --> 00:39:50,422 well, kind of. 880 00:39:50,526 --> 00:39:53,321 In 2015, General Mills announced with great fanfare 881 00:39:53,425 --> 00:39:56,152 their commitment to rid their product of synthetic dyes, 882 00:39:56,255 --> 00:39:59,604 a quest for healthier, more natural ingredients. 883 00:39:59,707 --> 00:40:02,676 A year later, Mars Incorporated made a similar commitment 884 00:40:02,779 --> 00:40:05,472 following a viral petition on Change.org, 885 00:40:05,575 --> 00:40:07,922 asking the company to take dyes out of M&Ms. 886 00:40:08,026 --> 00:40:12,651 - We did a petition on Change.org, 887 00:40:12,755 --> 00:40:15,585 which was incredibly successful. 888 00:40:15,689 --> 00:40:20,279 We were fortunate enough to get over 200,000 signatures, 889 00:40:20,383 --> 00:40:24,180 which is what prompted M&Ms and Mars to contact me. 890 00:40:24,283 --> 00:40:25,492 And they explained 891 00:40:25,595 --> 00:40:27,735 that they were going to take out the dyes, 892 00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:31,325 it was gonna take a while and they invited my son 893 00:40:31,429 --> 00:40:34,811 to be the first one to go to the factory 894 00:40:34,915 --> 00:40:36,986 as soon as they had made the change. 895 00:40:37,089 --> 00:40:39,160 So my son was so excited, 896 00:40:39,264 --> 00:40:42,336 and it was really exciting stuff. 897 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,063 - [Brandon] However, as the projected timelines approached, 898 00:40:45,166 --> 00:40:47,237 each company performed a U-turn on their commitments, 899 00:40:47,341 --> 00:40:49,377 blaming the lack of consumer demand. 900 00:40:49,481 --> 00:40:53,105 The iconic General Mills cereal Trix actually did eliminate 901 00:40:53,209 --> 00:40:54,452 dyes for a brief moment. 902 00:40:54,555 --> 00:40:56,626 But after a public outcry of criticism, 903 00:40:56,730 --> 00:40:58,801 accusing them of tarnishing childhood memories, 904 00:40:58,904 --> 00:41:01,113 the neon hues promptly returned. 905 00:41:01,217 --> 00:41:02,701 - We really thought we won, 906 00:41:02,805 --> 00:41:07,016 and I was so sad that it just didn't end up working out. 907 00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:08,949 - It's easy to pick on those two, right? 908 00:41:09,052 --> 00:41:11,330 Because those are very public examples of companies 909 00:41:11,434 --> 00:41:13,781 that have talked about this and promised, 910 00:41:13,885 --> 00:41:16,922 or did something about it and then broke that promise. 911 00:41:17,026 --> 00:41:19,856 But there are many, many, many companies 912 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,064 who've been silent on the issue, 913 00:41:21,168 --> 00:41:23,239 and still use food dyes with impunity. 914 00:41:23,342 --> 00:41:27,415 So I want to point the finger at the entire food industry, 915 00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:29,763 not just a couple of people who have at least 916 00:41:29,866 --> 00:41:32,662 at some point tried or said they were gonna try 917 00:41:32,766 --> 00:41:35,769 and do something, even if they didn't end up doing that. 918 00:41:35,872 --> 00:41:37,736 - [Brandon] So why didn't we as consumers rally 919 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,531 to ditch these dyes? 920 00:41:39,635 --> 00:41:41,809 Was there a crucial piece missing from the puzzle? 921 00:41:41,913 --> 00:41:44,018 Was there ever any mention of the potential dangers 922 00:41:44,122 --> 00:41:45,503 of these additives? 923 00:41:45,606 --> 00:41:48,678 Or was it just presented as a more natural option? 924 00:41:48,782 --> 00:41:50,577 Without knowledge of potential health risk, 925 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,165 why would we want to eliminate them? 926 00:41:53,269 --> 00:41:54,788 But armed with that information, 927 00:41:54,891 --> 00:41:56,410 would the outcome have been different? 928 00:41:56,514 --> 00:41:59,482 Would people still prefer the vibrant colors of the past? 929 00:41:59,586 --> 00:42:00,897 With these questions in mind, 930 00:42:01,001 --> 00:42:02,761 we conducted a small experiment with friends 931 00:42:02,865 --> 00:42:04,901 and family to gauge how this knowledge would impact 932 00:42:05,005 --> 00:42:06,213 their consumer preferences. 933 00:42:07,732 --> 00:42:10,528 Do any of you practice a dye free diet? 934 00:42:10,631 --> 00:42:12,460 - No, I... 935 00:42:12,564 --> 00:42:15,187 Honestly, this is the first time I've ever thought about it 936 00:42:15,291 --> 00:42:17,155 until maybe five minutes ago. 937 00:42:17,258 --> 00:42:18,156 - No. - No. 938 00:42:19,778 --> 00:42:24,749 - We do limit dyes, but we are not completely dye free. 939 00:42:24,852 --> 00:42:29,581 - We buy food that tastes good based on price and taste. 940 00:42:29,685 --> 00:42:30,686 - And calories. 941 00:42:31,790 --> 00:42:32,998 - [Brandon] There's a lot of companies 942 00:42:33,102 --> 00:42:35,104 that claim there is not enough public demand 943 00:42:35,207 --> 00:42:39,487 to justify replacing synthetic dyes in their products 944 00:42:39,591 --> 00:42:41,420 with a more natural option. 945 00:42:41,524 --> 00:42:43,491 So we'll be doing some blind taste test, 946 00:42:43,595 --> 00:42:45,079 some visual comparisons, 947 00:42:45,183 --> 00:42:48,427 all to see how these dyes play a role in your preferences. 948 00:42:48,531 --> 00:42:49,256 Y'all ready to go? 949 00:42:49,359 --> 00:42:50,637 - Okay. - Okay. 950 00:42:50,740 --> 00:42:51,499 - [Brandon] Alright, let's put on our blindfolds. 951 00:42:51,603 --> 00:42:52,673 - Okay. 952 00:42:54,019 --> 00:42:55,193 - [Brandon] Go ahead and pick up the one on your right 953 00:42:55,296 --> 00:42:56,332 and give it a taste. 954 00:42:57,954 --> 00:42:58,679 - Ah. 955 00:42:59,473 --> 00:43:00,647 - Hmm. 956 00:43:00,750 --> 00:43:01,440 - [Brandon] Taste like childhood? 957 00:43:01,544 --> 00:43:03,235 - Mhm-hmm. 958 00:43:03,339 --> 00:43:05,479 - [Brandon] If you think the one on your left was dye free, 959 00:43:05,583 --> 00:43:06,307 raise your hand. 960 00:43:07,515 --> 00:43:08,275 - Oh, I'm a little... 961 00:43:08,378 --> 00:43:09,690 I'm going counterintuitive. 962 00:43:10,933 --> 00:43:14,212 - Yeah, so I wanna say left has dye, 963 00:43:15,903 --> 00:43:16,732 and the right does not. 964 00:43:18,250 --> 00:43:18,665 - I'm gonna say the same. 965 00:43:18,768 --> 00:43:19,942 Left has dye. 966 00:43:21,012 --> 00:43:22,151 - This is gonna be the dye free one. 967 00:43:22,254 --> 00:43:23,324 This has dye in it. 968 00:43:23,428 --> 00:43:26,431 - There's not much of a taste difference to me. 969 00:43:26,534 --> 00:43:27,397 - [Brandon] So which one would you say 970 00:43:27,501 --> 00:43:28,709 is the dye-free version? 971 00:43:30,469 --> 00:43:31,988 - This one. 972 00:43:32,092 --> 00:43:32,920 - [Brandon] All right, go ahead 973 00:43:33,024 --> 00:43:33,887 and remove your blindfolds. 974 00:43:35,371 --> 00:43:36,372 - Okay. - Oh. 975 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:38,685 Wrong! 976 00:43:38,788 --> 00:43:41,066 - Oh, wow. - Whoa. No way. 977 00:43:43,413 --> 00:43:44,622 - Dude. 978 00:43:44,725 --> 00:43:45,381 - They should start selling these anyway. 979 00:43:45,484 --> 00:43:46,244 Those are better. 980 00:43:47,555 --> 00:43:48,418 - [Brandon] We continued this process 981 00:43:48,522 --> 00:43:50,282 with a number of different products. 982 00:43:50,386 --> 00:43:53,389 Some of them were the same brand from different countries. 983 00:43:53,492 --> 00:43:57,082 Others were a name brand compared to a generic brand. 984 00:43:57,186 --> 00:43:57,980 One with dyes, 985 00:43:58,083 --> 00:43:59,119 one without. 986 00:43:59,982 --> 00:44:01,639 Sometimes they guessed right. 987 00:44:01,742 --> 00:44:02,847 You all got that one right. 988 00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:03,848 - Whoa. - Okay. 989 00:44:05,366 --> 00:44:07,714 - [Brandon] And many times they're pretty surprised. 990 00:44:11,821 --> 00:44:15,273 - They look the same to me. 991 00:44:15,376 --> 00:44:17,240 - [Brandon] As they compared the taste and appearance 992 00:44:17,344 --> 00:44:19,035 of a variety of different dyed foods next 993 00:44:19,139 --> 00:44:21,003 to their dye-free counterparts, 994 00:44:21,106 --> 00:44:22,763 we shared with them some of the information we've learned 995 00:44:22,867 --> 00:44:24,385 while creating this film. 996 00:44:24,489 --> 00:44:26,871 - These dyes are used to brighten the appearance 997 00:44:26,974 --> 00:44:30,357 of our food, but are purely cosmetic and are associated 998 00:44:30,460 --> 00:44:31,807 with a number of risks. 999 00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:33,878 - [Brandon] And we concluded by asking the question, 1000 00:44:33,981 --> 00:44:36,604 do you think this information could have an impact 1001 00:44:36,708 --> 00:44:37,882 on consumer behavior? 1002 00:44:37,985 --> 00:44:43,025 - I do think that if the population was educated 1003 00:44:44,233 --> 00:44:47,754 on these studies that have been done on the effects 1004 00:44:47,857 --> 00:44:51,585 of these synthetic dyes, I think that would outweigh 1005 00:44:51,689 --> 00:44:54,933 the need to just have something beautiful on my plate. 1006 00:44:55,037 --> 00:44:59,558 - When you buy cigarettes or you buy alcohol, 1007 00:44:59,662 --> 00:45:03,010 there's warning labels, can cause cancer, you know. 1008 00:45:03,114 --> 00:45:06,117 I don't understand why there's adult consumption 1009 00:45:06,220 --> 00:45:08,947 warning labels and not kid consumption warning lables. 1010 00:45:09,983 --> 00:45:11,329 - I don't know. 1011 00:45:11,432 --> 00:45:12,502 I mean, I'm not... 1012 00:45:12,606 --> 00:45:13,849 Honestly, I'm not the kind of person 1013 00:45:13,952 --> 00:45:17,507 who thinks heavily about what I eat. [chuckles] 1014 00:45:17,611 --> 00:45:18,888 For better or for worse. 1015 00:45:18,992 --> 00:45:22,616 But I mean, like, just from a cost risk analysis, 1016 00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:25,032 like I don't understand why companies 1017 00:45:25,136 --> 00:45:27,000 would be so adamant. - Concerned. 1018 00:45:27,103 --> 00:45:28,726 - About keeping these ingredients, 1019 00:45:28,829 --> 00:45:31,314 and I really don't think it pushes the needle. 1020 00:45:32,557 --> 00:45:35,215 - So one of the questions is, whose area is this? 1021 00:45:35,318 --> 00:45:36,664 Should this be Nationals Institute of Mental Health? 1022 00:45:36,768 --> 00:45:39,529 Should this be EPA? Is it FDA? 1023 00:45:39,633 --> 00:45:42,015 My hunch is that different agencies 1024 00:45:42,118 --> 00:45:44,949 aren't sure this is in their wheelhouse to fund. 1025 00:45:45,052 --> 00:45:47,468 It's a big gap. I think we should be funding more studies 1026 00:45:47,572 --> 00:45:50,989 of food dyes, food additives, and diet in general. 1027 00:45:51,093 --> 00:45:52,819 There's substantial evidence now 1028 00:45:52,922 --> 00:45:55,407 that there's something going on with food, nutrients, 1029 00:45:55,511 --> 00:45:57,858 vitamins and minerals, as well as additives 1030 00:45:57,962 --> 00:46:01,103 that affects brain development that can affect ADHD, 1031 00:46:01,206 --> 00:46:03,105 and other mental health conditions. 1032 00:46:03,208 --> 00:46:05,107 And personally, I would advocate 1033 00:46:05,210 --> 00:46:07,350 that we significantly invest in this area. 1034 00:46:07,454 --> 00:46:10,629 - I think the most important, you know, new development 1035 00:46:10,733 --> 00:46:14,185 in the dyes research space was the report that came out 1036 00:46:14,288 --> 00:46:16,877 in 2021 from the California Office 1037 00:46:16,981 --> 00:46:19,638 of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment, or OEHHA. 1038 00:46:19,742 --> 00:46:23,539 - It's a group of, you know, highly trained physicians, 1039 00:46:23,642 --> 00:46:26,784 toxicologists, epidemiologists, statisticians. 1040 00:46:26,887 --> 00:46:30,132 And their job is just to look at the science. 1041 00:46:30,235 --> 00:46:32,755 They don't get into politics, they don't get into economics, 1042 00:46:32,859 --> 00:46:34,515 they just look at the science. 1043 00:46:34,619 --> 00:46:38,209 And their job is to assess the health risks of chemicals. 1044 00:46:38,312 --> 00:46:40,142 - They conducted what I would consider 1045 00:46:40,245 --> 00:46:43,801 to be the most thorough review of this literature ever done. 1046 00:46:43,904 --> 00:46:45,699 Really the best resource we have on 1047 00:46:45,803 --> 00:46:48,322 what we know about food dyes and their effects on behavior, 1048 00:46:48,426 --> 00:46:49,392 and brain development. 1049 00:46:49,496 --> 00:46:52,050 - Randomized double-blind clinical trials 1050 00:46:52,154 --> 00:46:55,882 are the gold standard for showing a cause 1051 00:46:55,985 --> 00:46:57,366 and effect relationship. 1052 00:46:57,469 --> 00:46:59,575 We've got 27 of those. 1053 00:46:59,678 --> 00:47:03,130 Each study by itself might be small, it might have a flaw, 1054 00:47:03,234 --> 00:47:06,409 but when you combine them together, they get very powerful. 1055 00:47:06,513 --> 00:47:09,827 - 27 human clinical trials, animal evidence, 1056 00:47:09,930 --> 00:47:11,656 and in vitro mechanistic evidence, 1057 00:47:11,759 --> 00:47:13,278 so they really got all of it. 1058 00:47:13,382 --> 00:47:16,074 And this was a multi-year long process 1059 00:47:16,178 --> 00:47:19,181 that involved public input and expert panels, 1060 00:47:19,284 --> 00:47:20,734 and peer review. 1061 00:47:20,838 --> 00:47:25,187 And this culminated in the publication of this 2021 report, 1062 00:47:25,290 --> 00:47:28,707 which concluded that synthetic food dyes can cause, 1063 00:47:28,811 --> 00:47:32,056 or exacerbate neurobehavioral problems in some children. 1064 00:47:32,159 --> 00:47:35,611 - There's a state senator in California, Senator Wieckowski, 1065 00:47:35,714 --> 00:47:40,236 and he authored two bills, both of which were aimed 1066 00:47:40,340 --> 00:47:43,584 at requiring a warning label on dyed foods. 1067 00:47:43,688 --> 00:47:47,588 If California had a warning label on dyed foods, 1068 00:47:47,692 --> 00:47:50,246 that would have implications across the country. 1069 00:47:50,350 --> 00:47:52,110 You know, if you're a company, 1070 00:47:52,214 --> 00:47:54,216 you don't wanna put a warning label on your product, 1071 00:47:54,319 --> 00:47:57,460 you'd rather reformulate it to avoid the warning label. 1072 00:47:57,564 --> 00:48:00,325 If you have to reformulate your product for California, 1073 00:48:00,429 --> 00:48:02,362 you might as well reformulate it for everybody. 1074 00:48:02,465 --> 00:48:07,263 So the first bill, it's passed the health committee, 1075 00:48:07,367 --> 00:48:09,196 but it ended up being defeated. 1076 00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:12,441 There was tremendous industry opposition to the bill 1077 00:48:12,544 --> 00:48:14,132 as you could well imagine. 1078 00:48:14,236 --> 00:48:18,965 After the first bill failed, he was able to obtain funding 1079 00:48:19,068 --> 00:48:22,692 for the state of California for this OEHHA Office 1080 00:48:22,796 --> 00:48:24,798 to conduct the assessment. 1081 00:48:24,902 --> 00:48:27,249 So it's thanks to Senator Wieckowski 1082 00:48:27,352 --> 00:48:30,114 that we have this fabulous scientific assessment 1083 00:48:30,217 --> 00:48:31,529 on the effects of dyes. 1084 00:48:39,433 --> 00:48:41,297 - What's the cliche that people say, 1085 00:48:41,401 --> 00:48:44,507 you may lose the battle, but you win the war. 1086 00:48:44,611 --> 00:48:47,752 And I think legislation is that way 1087 00:48:47,855 --> 00:48:51,238 where you introduce an idea, 1088 00:48:51,342 --> 00:48:53,413 and then people start talking about it. 1089 00:48:53,516 --> 00:48:58,556 The enthusiasm and the excitement that has been created 1090 00:49:00,109 --> 00:49:04,113 by this report that OEHHA has produced for scientists, 1091 00:49:04,217 --> 00:49:07,737 and academicians all around the world has really helped 1092 00:49:07,841 --> 00:49:12,018 that snowball and drawn some attention to this area 1093 00:49:12,121 --> 00:49:13,295 of public policy. 1094 00:49:13,398 --> 00:49:15,262 It's funny, people are binary. 1095 00:49:15,366 --> 00:49:17,713 You had a successful bill, you had an unsuccessful bill. 1096 00:49:17,816 --> 00:49:21,406 So I have a unsuccessful bill, but what the bill wanted 1097 00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:24,064 was the California Department of Public Health 1098 00:49:24,168 --> 00:49:26,791 to promulgate regulations for foods 1099 00:49:26,894 --> 00:49:28,827 that contain synthetic dyes. 1100 00:49:28,931 --> 00:49:31,175 Didn't work out, didn't get done, 1101 00:49:31,278 --> 00:49:36,042 but I've learned to be tenacious and to keep pushing. 1102 00:49:36,145 --> 00:49:41,012 And my chief of staff, Derek Chernow, very clever guy, 1103 00:49:41,116 --> 00:49:44,395 he said, you're the chair of the budget subcommittee 1104 00:49:44,498 --> 00:49:47,087 and you have control over OEHHA, 1105 00:49:47,191 --> 00:49:50,504 why don't you put the money in the budget? 1106 00:49:50,608 --> 00:49:53,093 So very quietly in 2017, 1107 00:49:53,197 --> 00:49:55,406 California's budget had a allocation 1108 00:49:55,509 --> 00:49:58,098 for the Office of Environmental Hazards 1109 00:49:58,202 --> 00:50:00,583 to go and do the study. 1110 00:50:00,687 --> 00:50:04,518 So I lost the bill, but won the battle. 1111 00:50:04,622 --> 00:50:06,727 - I think the biggest message I wanna get out there 1112 00:50:06,831 --> 00:50:09,627 to other families of color and other single families 1113 00:50:09,730 --> 00:50:13,113 is that going dye free is not an income level thing. 1114 00:50:13,217 --> 00:50:17,980 And it's not a crunchy yoga mom, rich people problem. 1115 00:50:18,084 --> 00:50:20,914 It is a neurological reaction. 1116 00:50:21,018 --> 00:50:23,641 Your brain has no color, your brain has no income level. 1117 00:50:23,744 --> 00:50:24,400 Just try it. 1118 00:50:24,504 --> 00:50:26,264 It does require some diligence, 1119 00:50:26,368 --> 00:50:28,232 and it does require some action. 1120 00:50:28,335 --> 00:50:31,752 But if you do it and you see a difference, can you imagine 1121 00:50:31,856 --> 00:50:34,686 how much better you and your child's life would be? 1122 00:50:34,790 --> 00:50:37,275 So I went on this group I'm on in Facebook 1123 00:50:37,379 --> 00:50:39,346 that's like these awesome moms that work in colleges, 1124 00:50:39,450 --> 00:50:41,935 and I said, has anyone ever heard of red dye behavior? 1125 00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:43,661 And immediately had like 40 responses. 1126 00:50:43,764 --> 00:50:45,766 Yes, my brother, yes, I've heard of this, 1127 00:50:45,870 --> 00:50:47,320 my neighbor's kid has this. 1128 00:50:47,423 --> 00:50:49,391 And I was like, oh my gosh, there's something here. 1129 00:50:49,494 --> 00:50:52,670 So that day I went through our pantry, our refrigerator, 1130 00:50:52,773 --> 00:50:54,603 cleared everything out I could find that had red dye in it. 1131 00:50:54,706 --> 00:50:56,812 So then it got a little bit better for two days, 1132 00:50:56,915 --> 00:50:58,227 and then it happened again. 1133 00:50:58,331 --> 00:51:00,850 I was like, I don't know what's going on. 1134 00:51:00,954 --> 00:51:02,266 I got rid of everything. 1135 00:51:02,369 --> 00:51:04,613 And so by this point I had joined the dye-free group. 1136 00:51:04,716 --> 00:51:05,959 So I was asking in there, 1137 00:51:06,063 --> 00:51:07,685 and they're like, oh, you need to look at these other dyes, 1138 00:51:07,788 --> 00:51:08,996 yellow and blues. 1139 00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:10,205 You know, check your freezer. 1140 00:51:10,308 --> 00:51:11,206 Have you looked at toothpaste? 1141 00:51:11,309 --> 00:51:12,414 I was like, toothpaste, what? 1142 00:51:12,517 --> 00:51:13,898 So I go in there, lo and behold, 1143 00:51:14,001 --> 00:51:15,244 his toothpaste has dye in it. 1144 00:51:15,348 --> 00:51:16,590 I was like, okay, get rid of the toothpaste. 1145 00:51:16,694 --> 00:51:19,662 Finally though, after I'd say a month, 1146 00:51:19,766 --> 00:51:22,320 I think we got rid of like pretty much everything with red, 1147 00:51:22,424 --> 00:51:23,908 blue, and yellow dye in it. 1148 00:51:24,011 --> 00:51:26,117 And three years later we are, 1149 00:51:26,221 --> 00:51:27,636 I mean I'd say we're a 100% dye-free. 1150 00:51:27,739 --> 00:51:29,293 But it has been a journey. 1151 00:51:29,396 --> 00:51:30,501 It has been a journey. 1152 00:51:30,604 --> 00:51:32,296 There's a lot of other little, you know, 1153 00:51:32,399 --> 00:51:33,745 if you're looking at a timeline, it's not just here to here. 1154 00:51:33,849 --> 00:51:36,507 There's a lot of peaks and ups and downs in that journey. 1155 00:51:36,610 --> 00:51:39,544 But since then, it's been so much better. 1156 00:51:39,648 --> 00:51:41,650 You know, everyone, his teachers like him more, 1157 00:51:41,753 --> 00:51:43,824 you know, getting along better more with kids at school. 1158 00:51:43,928 --> 00:51:44,687 He's got a couple of little things 1159 00:51:44,791 --> 00:51:46,275 that have happened more due to anxiety. 1160 00:51:46,379 --> 00:51:49,278 Not due to dye, but taking the dye away has taken 1161 00:51:49,382 --> 00:51:50,624 the behavior away. 1162 00:51:50,728 --> 00:51:52,350 Now it's more of just trying to figure out, 1163 00:51:52,454 --> 00:51:53,869 you know, what's going on here? 1164 00:51:53,972 --> 00:51:57,631 But I can't imagine the ADHD anxiety going on plus the dye. 1165 00:52:00,496 --> 00:52:02,395 I can't even, like, I can't imagine 1166 00:52:02,498 --> 00:52:03,775 what our life would be like. 1167 00:52:03,879 --> 00:52:07,607 - Industry clearly has a dog in this fight. 1168 00:52:07,710 --> 00:52:12,336 They use these food dyes to make their food look good, 1169 00:52:12,439 --> 00:52:13,233 so you buy it, right? 1170 00:52:13,337 --> 00:52:15,373 So they stand to lose money, 1171 00:52:15,477 --> 00:52:17,789 if people stop buying their products 1172 00:52:17,893 --> 00:52:18,894 or I think... 1173 00:52:18,997 --> 00:52:21,759 And their greatest fear is if they're banned, 1174 00:52:21,862 --> 00:52:24,313 they definitely don't want warning labels on their food 1175 00:52:24,417 --> 00:52:26,384 because that gives consumers the impression, 1176 00:52:26,488 --> 00:52:28,973 the right impression that there are chemicals in them 1177 00:52:29,076 --> 00:52:30,802 that can cause harm. 1178 00:52:30,906 --> 00:52:32,563 And then in the case of red 3, 1179 00:52:32,666 --> 00:52:34,668 FDA itself said it causes cancer. 1180 00:52:34,772 --> 00:52:37,223 So there's really no excuse, right? 1181 00:52:37,326 --> 00:52:40,536 But it's in their interest in terms of profit, right? 1182 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:41,848 In terms of their bottom line 1183 00:52:41,951 --> 00:52:44,402 to not have to reformulate their products. 1184 00:52:44,506 --> 00:52:48,958 - You have no idea how much opposition there is to the idea 1185 00:52:49,062 --> 00:52:51,651 of a warning label on dyed foods. 1186 00:52:51,754 --> 00:52:55,033 There is so much industry opposition to this notion. 1187 00:52:55,137 --> 00:52:58,934 They are out there lobbying, saying that dyes are safe, 1188 00:52:59,037 --> 00:53:01,937 saying it would be too costly to require a warning label. 1189 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,388 They're opposed to giving consumers 1190 00:53:04,491 --> 00:53:06,769 the information they need to protect their families. 1191 00:53:06,873 --> 00:53:11,395 - This is a multi-billion dollar food industry, 1192 00:53:11,498 --> 00:53:14,398 folks that are making a lot of money having these dyes 1193 00:53:14,501 --> 00:53:15,882 in their products. 1194 00:53:15,985 --> 00:53:18,298 You know, as soon as the bill was introduced, 1195 00:53:18,402 --> 00:53:19,920 I had everybody and their uncle 1196 00:53:20,024 --> 00:53:24,546 from the restaurant association, the confectionary folks, 1197 00:53:24,649 --> 00:53:27,549 the chemical companies saying, 1198 00:53:27,652 --> 00:53:28,860 you could run us outta business. 1199 00:53:28,964 --> 00:53:31,380 This is gonna have an adverse effect on us. 1200 00:53:32,243 --> 00:53:33,486 And you know, you have to say, 1201 00:53:33,589 --> 00:53:35,246 okay, everybody take a big deep breath. 1202 00:53:35,350 --> 00:53:39,216 This is not new. You knew of the bill in 2017. 1203 00:53:39,319 --> 00:53:41,287 This is now four years later. 1204 00:53:41,390 --> 00:53:43,944 At the end of the day, all we're trying to do 1205 00:53:44,048 --> 00:53:45,463 is we're not trying to put anybody outta business, 1206 00:53:45,567 --> 00:53:46,602 we just wanna inform the public 1207 00:53:46,706 --> 00:53:49,122 of what are you digesting here. 1208 00:53:49,226 --> 00:53:53,091 - Ultimately, FDA has final authority. 1209 00:53:53,195 --> 00:53:55,784 They bear the ultimate responsibility, 1210 00:53:55,887 --> 00:53:58,821 but that doesn't absolve the companies 1211 00:53:58,925 --> 00:54:02,135 from the responsibility to protect their customers. 1212 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,240 - Any change you wanna make? 1213 00:54:03,343 --> 00:54:05,207 Oh no. You know, too costly. 1214 00:54:05,311 --> 00:54:06,484 All the science is bad. 1215 00:54:06,588 --> 00:54:08,693 Those scientists are crazy. 1216 00:54:09,867 --> 00:54:11,075 - [Interviewer] But at what human cost? 1217 00:54:11,178 --> 00:54:13,491 - At what human cost, right? Right. 1218 00:54:13,595 --> 00:54:15,148 - What we know is that in Europe, 1219 00:54:15,252 --> 00:54:18,462 any harm to health is paid for by taxes, 1220 00:54:18,565 --> 00:54:20,947 and by the government and the people as a whole. 1221 00:54:21,050 --> 00:54:23,190 Whereas here in the U.S. there's no benefit 1222 00:54:23,294 --> 00:54:26,159 to the government in preventing health issues 1223 00:54:26,263 --> 00:54:28,195 because they are not gonna pay the cost. 1224 00:54:28,299 --> 00:54:30,784 Just because we have regulatory authorities 1225 00:54:30,888 --> 00:54:33,166 does not make these products safe. 1226 00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:34,616 - Are synthetic dyes 1227 00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,413 the only issue in our food system? Absolutely not. 1228 00:54:38,516 --> 00:54:40,829 But eliminating synthetic dyes 1229 00:54:40,932 --> 00:54:43,763 has dramatically impacted our lives. 1230 00:54:43,866 --> 00:54:46,524 And we think it's just a really great place to start. 1231 00:54:46,628 --> 00:54:49,113 It's a good conversation to be had. 1232 00:54:49,216 --> 00:54:52,289 And we believe that it could impact millions of lives. 1233 00:54:53,531 --> 00:54:56,327 - It sounds crazy that we have to say use food 1234 00:54:56,431 --> 00:54:58,260 to make food, but we're not. 1235 00:54:58,364 --> 00:55:01,367 We're using artificial things to make food. 1236 00:55:01,470 --> 00:55:04,301 So companies use synthetic dyes for two reasons. 1237 00:55:04,404 --> 00:55:05,785 One, for cost. 1238 00:55:05,888 --> 00:55:09,236 It's so much cheaper just to use the synthetic dyes. 1239 00:55:09,340 --> 00:55:10,997 Second thing is time. 1240 00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:12,274 It's really hard actually 1241 00:55:12,378 --> 00:55:14,241 to create a product using real food 1242 00:55:14,345 --> 00:55:17,348 that will always taste the same and always look the same 1243 00:55:17,452 --> 00:55:18,694 because every batch of strawberries 1244 00:55:18,798 --> 00:55:20,386 is going to look different. 1245 00:55:20,489 --> 00:55:22,940 But we know in Europe they have higher standards, 1246 00:55:23,043 --> 00:55:26,115 and so a lot of companies will have their U.S. version 1247 00:55:26,219 --> 00:55:27,634 or their recipe of the product 1248 00:55:27,738 --> 00:55:29,912 and their version that they use in EU. 1249 00:55:30,016 --> 00:55:33,364 And the problem is the EU one costs them more money 1250 00:55:33,468 --> 00:55:34,365 to make for Europe. 1251 00:55:34,469 --> 00:55:36,056 And so if they can get away 1252 00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:37,334 with making the American version, 1253 00:55:37,437 --> 00:55:40,647 they're going to do that purely for their profits. 1254 00:55:40,751 --> 00:55:43,236 One of the reasons I actually started my company 1255 00:55:43,340 --> 00:55:46,412 is because I had so many neighbors, extended family members, 1256 00:55:46,515 --> 00:55:50,485 community members struggling with ADHD, migraines, 1257 00:55:50,588 --> 00:55:52,832 depression, anxiety, autoimmune issues. 1258 00:55:52,935 --> 00:55:54,558 And you can't just go ask somebody, 1259 00:55:54,661 --> 00:55:56,111 hey, can I come cook for you? 1260 00:55:56,214 --> 00:55:58,527 And so I was like, how do I teach all these people around me 1261 00:55:58,631 --> 00:56:00,046 that are struggling? 1262 00:56:00,149 --> 00:56:01,219 And so I thought, you know what? 1263 00:56:01,323 --> 00:56:02,807 If I just start a little Instagram account 1264 00:56:02,911 --> 00:56:06,328 and teach like a daily tip, and an easy tip of things 1265 00:56:06,432 --> 00:56:08,434 that people can do in their homes, 1266 00:56:08,537 --> 00:56:10,574 maybe then these people will start feeling better. 1267 00:56:10,677 --> 00:56:12,438 Because a lot of people think that you need 1268 00:56:12,541 --> 00:56:15,406 to have this huge new like kale and sardine diet, 1269 00:56:15,510 --> 00:56:17,512 and that is truly not the case at all. 1270 00:56:18,927 --> 00:56:20,480 You can still have the mac and cheese and the hamburgers 1271 00:56:20,584 --> 00:56:22,309 and the waffles and things, 1272 00:56:22,413 --> 00:56:24,035 but let's make them with real food ingredients 1273 00:56:24,139 --> 00:56:26,417 that are actually going to nourish the body 1274 00:56:26,521 --> 00:56:27,832 and take care of the body. 1275 00:56:27,936 --> 00:56:31,077 Diet actually plays a huge role in mental health. 1276 00:56:31,180 --> 00:56:33,562 People out there are spending thousands and thousands 1277 00:56:33,666 --> 00:56:36,289 of dollars on prescriptions or medical bills, 1278 00:56:36,393 --> 00:56:38,429 or therapy or all different things, 1279 00:56:38,533 --> 00:56:40,983 which sometimes are needed, don't get me wrong. 1280 00:56:41,087 --> 00:56:43,710 But at the same time, a lot of that could just be fixed 1281 00:56:43,814 --> 00:56:45,643 with the knowledge about our food. 1282 00:56:45,747 --> 00:56:49,544 - We tried behavioral intervention 1283 00:56:49,647 --> 00:56:54,480 and behavioral training for three years. Three years. 1284 00:56:55,964 --> 00:56:59,657 And I look back and I feel terrible not recognizing 1285 00:56:59,761 --> 00:57:02,488 that it was something that he absolutely cannot control. 1286 00:57:02,591 --> 00:57:04,421 Being a psychologist, 1287 00:57:04,524 --> 00:57:06,975 we tried every psychological angle first. 1288 00:57:07,078 --> 00:57:09,149 In a way, it's a double-edged sword. 1289 00:57:09,253 --> 00:57:10,496 If I wasn't a psychologist, 1290 00:57:10,599 --> 00:57:13,637 I probably would have not done all of the things, 1291 00:57:13,740 --> 00:57:15,915 and maybe we would've figured it out earlier 'cause yeah, 1292 00:57:16,018 --> 00:57:21,058 I blamed his behaviors on us, on him when it wasn't. 1293 00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:23,888 So we pulled yellow, we pulled green, 1294 00:57:23,992 --> 00:57:26,719 we went through the entire house, we gutted everything. 1295 00:57:26,822 --> 00:57:29,963 And it was cold turkey from that day. 1296 00:57:30,067 --> 00:57:35,072 And it was like watching a drug addict coming off of drugs. 1297 00:57:36,556 --> 00:57:38,489 The emotional toll that it causes these kids, 1298 00:57:38,593 --> 00:57:40,664 it's just heartbreaking to watch them suffer. 1299 00:57:40,767 --> 00:57:42,044 But he calmed down. 1300 00:57:42,148 --> 00:57:45,462 His mind stopped racing and he could focus. 1301 00:57:45,565 --> 00:57:50,087 The begging to die was gone within days, days 1302 00:57:51,364 --> 00:57:52,572 to never come back. 1303 00:57:52,676 --> 00:57:54,954 Emotionally, he was still kind of a wreck 1304 00:57:55,057 --> 00:58:00,062 because he had those years where he didn't learn a lot. 1305 00:58:01,270 --> 00:58:04,239 There wasn't a lot of emotional development 1306 00:58:04,342 --> 00:58:05,723 because he was high. 1307 00:58:05,827 --> 00:58:08,105 It's like the way that we kind of explain it 1308 00:58:08,208 --> 00:58:10,072 was he was high for years. 1309 00:58:10,176 --> 00:58:11,729 It took about probably six months for him 1310 00:58:11,833 --> 00:58:13,386 to catch up with that. 1311 00:58:13,490 --> 00:58:15,492 But then school wasn't a problem anymore, 1312 00:58:15,595 --> 00:58:19,357 and making friends wasn't a problem anymore. 1313 00:58:19,461 --> 00:58:22,499 We removed the dyes, man he's the easiest kid to parent. 1314 00:58:22,602 --> 00:58:25,847 He went from eighth grade to college. 1315 00:58:25,950 --> 00:58:28,815 He tested into English 101, 1316 00:58:28,919 --> 00:58:30,679 he skipped four years of high school English. 1317 00:58:30,783 --> 00:58:32,267 He just turned 17. 1318 00:58:32,370 --> 00:58:34,787 He'll be graduating with his associate of business 1319 00:58:34,890 --> 00:58:36,513 and his associate of science, 1320 00:58:36,616 --> 00:58:39,170 and then moving on to a bachelor's degree. 1321 00:58:39,274 --> 00:58:40,413 He's doing fantastic. 1322 00:58:40,517 --> 00:58:43,623 He works on campus, everyone loves him. 1323 00:58:43,727 --> 00:58:44,797 He's a great kid. 1324 00:58:44,900 --> 00:58:49,767 His whole problem were dyes. That's it. 1325 00:58:50,423 --> 00:58:52,114 He doesn't have ADHD, 1326 00:58:52,218 --> 00:58:54,254 he doesn't have any other neurological behavioral problems. 1327 00:58:55,255 --> 00:58:57,085 It's just the dyes. 1328 00:58:57,188 --> 00:59:01,054 - It's like those night thoughts when it's late at night 1329 00:59:01,158 --> 00:59:02,573 and you're just laying in your bed staring at nothing, 1330 00:59:02,677 --> 00:59:03,816 and you have nothing to think about. 1331 00:59:03,919 --> 00:59:04,989 It's those intrusive thoughts like, 1332 00:59:05,093 --> 00:59:06,404 hey, are you sure you're on the life path 1333 00:59:06,508 --> 00:59:07,682 you wanna be on right now? 1334 00:59:07,785 --> 00:59:10,477 And it's those little pecks 1335 00:59:10,581 --> 00:59:11,548 that normally you just brush off 1336 00:59:11,651 --> 00:59:13,032 and you don't think about. 1337 00:59:13,135 --> 00:59:15,310 When you're on dyes, they get loud, they get to be like, 1338 00:59:15,413 --> 00:59:18,589 hey, are you sure you want to be alive right now? 1339 00:59:18,693 --> 00:59:22,041 And it gets really hard to not listen. 1340 00:59:22,144 --> 00:59:26,597 Whenever I do an interview or I talk to you lovely people, 1341 00:59:26,701 --> 00:59:30,877 my end goal is to at least talk to one kid. 1342 00:59:30,981 --> 00:59:34,571 If that's one kid that's not on anti-psychotics, 1343 00:59:34,674 --> 00:59:37,125 or one kid that's not on some list somewhere 1344 00:59:37,228 --> 00:59:39,576 because he or she had a violent outburst 1345 00:59:39,679 --> 00:59:41,094 where they hurt another kid, 1346 00:59:41,198 --> 00:59:44,097 I want to get to at least one of them just to be like, 1347 00:59:44,201 --> 00:59:46,790 hey, here's an option. 1348 00:59:46,893 --> 00:59:50,310 Knowing that there are kids my age or even younger, 1349 00:59:50,414 --> 00:59:54,073 or older that have a sensitivity to dyes like me 1350 00:59:54,176 --> 00:59:57,179 and they don't know it yet, I definitely can't imagine 1351 00:59:57,283 --> 00:59:59,250 what it would be like to go through a breakup 1352 00:59:59,354 --> 01:00:01,114 or something that, you know, it would hurt 1353 01:00:01,218 --> 01:00:03,013 and you're like, oh, I think my life is ending. 1354 01:00:03,116 --> 01:00:05,222 And thinking that and be like, this sucks. 1355 01:00:06,741 --> 01:00:09,053 But not having the self-control and the cognition 1356 01:00:09,157 --> 01:00:12,781 because of dyes to say to yourself, well it's temporary. 1357 01:00:12,885 --> 01:00:14,231 I'll get over this. 1358 01:00:14,334 --> 01:00:17,648 I have a whole life ahead of me. I am 15. 1359 01:00:17,752 --> 01:00:19,270 I can't imagine what it would be like to be like, 1360 01:00:19,374 --> 01:00:21,376 no, my life's done now. 1361 01:00:21,479 --> 01:00:24,413 There's no going forward from here. 1362 01:00:24,517 --> 01:00:28,038 I definitely do not enjoy the fact 1363 01:00:28,141 --> 01:00:29,349 that there are some kids who think that. 1364 01:00:29,453 --> 01:00:30,799 And there are, of course, there's other reasons. 1365 01:00:30,903 --> 01:00:31,869 There is of course mental illness 1366 01:00:31,973 --> 01:00:33,526 and I'm not writing that off. 1367 01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:36,529 That will and forever always be present. 1368 01:00:36,633 --> 01:00:38,531 But the one thing I wanna try to avoid 1369 01:00:38,635 --> 01:00:43,018 is unnecessary instances of kids who 1370 01:00:43,122 --> 01:00:46,746 just think I'm done. This is it. 1371 01:00:46,850 --> 01:00:49,059 All because of some little ingredient 1372 01:00:49,162 --> 01:00:50,819 to make your food brightly colored. 1373 01:00:59,448 --> 01:01:02,175 - In September, 2020, 1374 01:01:03,383 --> 01:01:06,939 we were expecting a new baby, fourth child. 1375 01:01:07,042 --> 01:01:09,458 Just a few weeks before our baby was born, 1376 01:01:10,736 --> 01:01:12,738 my husband was talking to his sister, 1377 01:01:12,841 --> 01:01:16,500 she suggested a Ted Talk about the effect 1378 01:01:16,603 --> 01:01:18,122 of food dyes on children. 1379 01:01:18,226 --> 01:01:21,712 So my husband sent me a text with that link to it, 1380 01:01:21,816 --> 01:01:24,784 and I kind of rolled my eyes and I thought, 1381 01:01:24,888 --> 01:01:28,305 that just sounds stupid 1382 01:01:28,408 --> 01:01:31,066 because it's food coloring. 1383 01:01:31,170 --> 01:01:33,241 Like it's in everything. Why? 1384 01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:35,519 Why would this be a problem? 1385 01:01:35,622 --> 01:01:37,452 It's just a color. 1386 01:01:37,555 --> 01:01:40,489 And my husband said, no, no, you should watch this video. 1387 01:01:40,593 --> 01:01:43,630 And I said, whatever. 1388 01:01:43,734 --> 01:01:46,116 That's okay, fine. 1389 01:01:46,219 --> 01:01:48,394 - I had a friend post something on Facebook 1390 01:01:48,497 --> 01:01:49,775 that resonated with me. 1391 01:01:49,878 --> 01:01:53,502 The title of the video like caught my attention. 1392 01:01:53,606 --> 01:01:55,988 I'm like, I don't know what this is, 1393 01:01:56,091 --> 01:01:57,783 but I trust my friend who posted it. 1394 01:01:57,886 --> 01:01:59,543 She shares a lot of same viewpoints as me. 1395 01:01:59,646 --> 01:02:00,855 I'm gonna watch this video. 1396 01:02:00,958 --> 01:02:03,029 And I watched it like jaw on the floor, 1397 01:02:03,133 --> 01:02:07,516 resonated so much, Rebecca's story of what was happening, 1398 01:02:07,620 --> 01:02:09,760 and what she was experiencing 1399 01:02:09,864 --> 01:02:13,902 and how removing dyes instantly remove different 1400 01:02:14,006 --> 01:02:17,078 behaviors and different things they were experiencing. 1401 01:02:17,181 --> 01:02:20,495 - So I popped in my headphones, and I listened 1402 01:02:20,598 --> 01:02:23,360 to this video while I was making dinner that night. 1403 01:02:23,463 --> 01:02:28,365 And there were things that kept coming up that wait, what? 1404 01:02:29,815 --> 01:02:31,264 Oh my gosh, she's just described Evan. 1405 01:02:31,368 --> 01:02:36,407 And the ah-ha moment was when the presenter said, 1406 01:02:36,511 --> 01:02:39,238 my kid doesn't always have ADHD. 1407 01:02:39,341 --> 01:02:40,757 - I was shocked. 1408 01:02:40,860 --> 01:02:42,828 His preschool never said anything like that. 1409 01:02:42,931 --> 01:02:45,175 I mean, yes, he was interested in a lot of things 1410 01:02:45,278 --> 01:02:48,281 and yes, he was enthusiastic but ADHD? 1411 01:02:49,731 --> 01:02:52,872 And why did it seem like he only had ADHD on some days? 1412 01:02:52,976 --> 01:02:55,564 - And I remember thinking her kid 1413 01:02:55,668 --> 01:02:59,016 is consistently inconsistent. 1414 01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,675 My kid is not always a bad kid. 1415 01:03:02,779 --> 01:03:04,504 Sometimes he's delightful. 1416 01:03:05,574 --> 01:03:07,645 And I thought, I'm desperate. 1417 01:03:07,749 --> 01:03:12,236 I have no other options at this point. 1418 01:03:12,340 --> 01:03:14,376 So I started doing a little research, 1419 01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,690 and reading labels and pulling stuff out 1420 01:03:17,794 --> 01:03:19,899 and making a pile that he could eat 1421 01:03:20,003 --> 01:03:22,039 and a pile that he couldn't eat 1422 01:03:22,143 --> 01:03:25,698 and we just started. 1423 01:03:25,802 --> 01:03:28,666 We didn't see immediate improvement, 1424 01:03:28,770 --> 01:03:31,704 but we'd made all these changes getting rid of things 1425 01:03:31,808 --> 01:03:34,811 in our pantry, so we just continued with it 1426 01:03:34,914 --> 01:03:38,228 and it took us several weeks and then boom, 1427 01:03:39,022 --> 01:03:40,195 our world changed. 1428 01:03:43,958 --> 01:03:46,167 - [Brandon] So we saw an article where the FDA says, 1429 01:03:46,270 --> 01:03:50,136 "If you're worried about dyes, then just read labels." 1430 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,069 But I mean, what if you don't know? 1431 01:03:52,173 --> 01:03:53,450 - [Whitney] That's crazy, right? 1432 01:03:53,553 --> 01:03:57,419 - Right. Yes, you can look at the ingredient label 1433 01:03:57,523 --> 01:04:00,319 and find these dyes in the ingredient list 1434 01:04:00,422 --> 01:04:02,045 if you know what you're looking for 1435 01:04:02,148 --> 01:04:03,805 and if you know you need to look for them. 1436 01:04:03,909 --> 01:04:05,807 Consumers might have this idea 1437 01:04:05,911 --> 01:04:08,672 that they can identify foods on site 1438 01:04:08,775 --> 01:04:09,984 that contain these dyes. 1439 01:04:10,087 --> 01:04:11,123 They think, oh, if it's brightly colored, 1440 01:04:11,226 --> 01:04:13,780 if it's a bright red sports drink, 1441 01:04:13,884 --> 01:04:15,748 then I know it's dyed. 1442 01:04:15,852 --> 01:04:17,336 And you're probably right, 1443 01:04:17,439 --> 01:04:22,306 but they're not just in these conspicuously colored foods. 1444 01:04:23,273 --> 01:04:24,515 Recently we looked at a food label 1445 01:04:24,619 --> 01:04:26,966 and found red 3 in a mashed potato product. 1446 01:04:27,070 --> 01:04:30,659 It's like, you know why first of all is that there? 1447 01:04:30,763 --> 01:04:34,387 But it's not just these brightly colored vibrant foods, 1448 01:04:34,491 --> 01:04:36,355 it's kind of permeated everything. 1449 01:04:36,458 --> 01:04:38,978 - I think the thing is that a lot of people don't know. 1450 01:04:39,082 --> 01:04:42,809 And so you can argue we should just let people make 1451 01:04:42,913 --> 01:04:44,363 their own choices. 1452 01:04:44,466 --> 01:04:47,676 But a lot of people aren't armed enough with the information 1453 01:04:47,780 --> 01:04:49,161 to be able to do that. 1454 01:04:49,264 --> 01:04:51,611 And these things are so pervasive it's almost impossible 1455 01:04:51,715 --> 01:04:52,750 to avoid them. 1456 01:04:52,854 --> 01:04:54,200 Even if you know what to look for. 1457 01:04:54,304 --> 01:04:56,409 - People aren't always able to study or understand 1458 01:04:56,513 --> 01:04:58,825 the list of 30 or 40 ingredients in some of these foods. 1459 01:04:58,929 --> 01:05:01,069 So that's where the wording label saves a tremendous burden 1460 01:05:01,173 --> 01:05:03,796 on the population of having to police their own food. 1461 01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:05,384 That's part of why I think it's sensible. 1462 01:05:05,487 --> 01:05:09,353 - I think it's especially alarming how many products 1463 01:05:09,457 --> 01:05:12,046 that are marketed to children contain these dyes 1464 01:05:12,149 --> 01:05:15,566 because that's who we're talking about is impacted 1465 01:05:15,670 --> 01:05:17,154 in terms of neuro behavior. 1466 01:05:18,224 --> 01:05:19,294 We're talking about children. 1467 01:05:19,398 --> 01:05:21,987 People generally, probably don't know 1468 01:05:22,090 --> 01:05:23,540 that this is a problem. 1469 01:05:23,643 --> 01:05:26,681 And so a warning label would essentially solve that problem, 1470 01:05:26,784 --> 01:05:29,926 make it more apparent to consumers that these dyes 1471 01:05:30,029 --> 01:05:31,341 are present in their food. 1472 01:05:31,444 --> 01:05:33,550 And also let them know that maybe this is something 1473 01:05:33,653 --> 01:05:36,449 that they should be aware of and avoid if their child 1474 01:05:36,553 --> 01:05:37,519 is being impacted. 1475 01:05:37,623 --> 01:05:39,314 - Why would you not let a parent know 1476 01:05:39,418 --> 01:05:41,696 to try to avoid these foods, 1477 01:05:41,799 --> 01:05:45,942 or industry, take those additives out of the food 1478 01:05:46,045 --> 01:05:48,013 and nobody has to avoid anything. 1479 01:05:48,116 --> 01:05:51,326 - One of my driving motivators for creating this film 1480 01:05:51,430 --> 01:05:53,846 is my experience as a teacher. 1481 01:05:53,950 --> 01:05:56,849 I used to teach in a high poverty school, 1482 01:05:56,953 --> 01:05:59,265 and so there were a lot of families 1483 01:05:59,369 --> 01:06:02,510 that were just in absolute survival mode. 1484 01:06:02,613 --> 01:06:05,582 And for many families in this circumstance, 1485 01:06:05,685 --> 01:06:09,620 chemicals like synthetic dyes or even reading labels at all 1486 01:06:09,724 --> 01:06:11,795 is just like not on their radar. 1487 01:06:11,898 --> 01:06:15,109 So for the FDA to just say avoid them, 1488 01:06:15,212 --> 01:06:17,145 it's just really missing the mark. 1489 01:06:17,249 --> 01:06:20,493 And in my opinion, it's kind of an unfair statement. 1490 01:06:21,701 --> 01:06:24,394 - I wrote a thesis for my education law class, 1491 01:06:24,497 --> 01:06:27,224 and I was looking specifically at foods 1492 01:06:27,328 --> 01:06:30,331 that are provided by the free and reduced lunch program 1493 01:06:30,434 --> 01:06:34,059 and breakfast program and the potential harms 1494 01:06:34,162 --> 01:06:35,577 that are coming from those foods 1495 01:06:35,681 --> 01:06:38,511 that could be causing behavioral issues, 1496 01:06:38,615 --> 01:06:41,376 could be causing misclassification for special ed 1497 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,378 and different issues like that. 1498 01:06:43,482 --> 01:06:45,035 I was really interested in this 1499 01:06:45,139 --> 01:06:47,865 because there are a lot of conversations and papers 1500 01:06:47,969 --> 01:06:50,730 that have been written about why students 1501 01:06:50,834 --> 01:06:55,287 from low income areas are disproportionately represented 1502 01:06:55,390 --> 01:06:59,187 in special education and disproportionately represented 1503 01:06:59,291 --> 01:07:03,950 in disciplinary behavior and even expulsion from school. 1504 01:07:04,054 --> 01:07:07,678 And when the numbers don't line up, 1505 01:07:07,782 --> 01:07:11,165 there's a reason behind that, there's something going on. 1506 01:07:11,268 --> 01:07:14,133 So when I was researching potentially the cause 1507 01:07:14,237 --> 01:07:17,447 of these behaviors and especially low income schools, 1508 01:07:17,550 --> 01:07:22,590 I was shocked to see the amount of food 1509 01:07:23,660 --> 01:07:26,076 that contains artificial food coloring, 1510 01:07:26,180 --> 01:07:28,285 thousands of foods that schools can choose from 1511 01:07:28,389 --> 01:07:32,634 to serve for breakfast or lunch that are completely covered 1512 01:07:32,738 --> 01:07:34,291 by the government programs. 1513 01:07:34,395 --> 01:07:36,052 To suggest that parents 1514 01:07:36,155 --> 01:07:39,331 or students should just avoid food dyes 1515 01:07:39,434 --> 01:07:41,436 if they don't want to consume them, 1516 01:07:41,540 --> 01:07:44,612 that's not always an option for some students 1517 01:07:44,715 --> 01:07:47,097 because especially students who qualify 1518 01:07:47,201 --> 01:07:49,651 for free and reduced lunch or breakfast, 1519 01:07:49,755 --> 01:07:53,103 that's typically about 70 to 80% of the nutrients 1520 01:07:53,207 --> 01:07:55,278 that they're gonna consume all day long. 1521 01:07:55,381 --> 01:07:58,695 And so to put a restriction on those students to say, 1522 01:07:58,798 --> 01:08:02,285 don't choose that, that's not something that they can do. 1523 01:08:02,388 --> 01:08:04,425 And then on top of that, 1524 01:08:04,528 --> 01:08:08,153 school lunches don't come with a label on the back of it. 1525 01:08:08,256 --> 01:08:10,845 So students don't know if there's food dye. 1526 01:08:10,948 --> 01:08:13,399 We see it time and time again from all the studies 1527 01:08:13,503 --> 01:08:17,645 that artificial food dyes have a very negative effect 1528 01:08:17,748 --> 01:08:19,647 on children's behavior. 1529 01:08:19,750 --> 01:08:23,582 And when schools are feeding children breakfast 1530 01:08:23,685 --> 01:08:27,310 with food dyes in them, lunches with food dye in them, 1531 01:08:27,413 --> 01:08:31,037 snacks with food dye in them it's something to think about 1532 01:08:31,141 --> 01:08:33,661 that there may be a link between their behavior 1533 01:08:33,764 --> 01:08:35,352 and what they're eating. 1534 01:08:35,456 --> 01:08:36,871 - [Brandon] So let's say you've removed dyes 1535 01:08:36,974 --> 01:08:38,183 from your household, 1536 01:08:38,286 --> 01:08:39,736 you've mastered the grocery store shuffle 1537 01:08:39,839 --> 01:08:42,290 and you're one of the lucky ones whose school is on board. 1538 01:08:42,394 --> 01:08:44,913 There's still the issue of prescription medications. 1539 01:08:45,017 --> 01:08:47,813 For many families, these medications are non-negotiable. 1540 01:08:47,916 --> 01:08:50,298 They're vital, even lifesaving. 1541 01:08:50,402 --> 01:08:52,818 Take ADHD medication for example, 1542 01:08:52,921 --> 01:08:54,164 they're often brightly colored, 1543 01:08:54,268 --> 01:08:57,512 which for kids sensitive to dyes can spell trouble. 1544 01:08:57,616 --> 01:08:59,963 It's a tough pill to swallow, pun intended 1545 01:09:00,066 --> 01:09:01,516 for families striving to minimize 1546 01:09:01,620 --> 01:09:03,484 the impact of these additives. 1547 01:09:03,587 --> 01:09:06,280 - Finding over the counter drugs has not been a challenge 1548 01:09:06,383 --> 01:09:08,109 because those do come in dye free. 1549 01:09:08,213 --> 01:09:09,869 Ironically, the bigger box stores, 1550 01:09:09,973 --> 01:09:11,250 the cheaper ones are the ones that are dye free, 1551 01:09:11,354 --> 01:09:12,355 which has been amazing. 1552 01:09:12,458 --> 01:09:13,770 So finding those has not been hard. 1553 01:09:13,873 --> 01:09:17,325 But when he gets prescription medication, antibiotics, 1554 01:09:17,429 --> 01:09:20,052 ironically, ADHD medications are almost all colored. 1555 01:09:20,156 --> 01:09:21,260 And so that's been the hardest part. 1556 01:09:21,364 --> 01:09:22,641 So I've got a really good relationship 1557 01:09:22,744 --> 01:09:24,194 with the compound pharmacy right down the street. 1558 01:09:24,298 --> 01:09:25,989 If we can't find the medication dye free, 1559 01:09:26,092 --> 01:09:28,129 I have to call them and have them make the medication, 1560 01:09:28,233 --> 01:09:30,027 which is of course more expensive. 1561 01:09:30,131 --> 01:09:32,444 I am a single parent, so affording that has been tough. 1562 01:09:32,547 --> 01:09:34,480 I, you know, I worked my insurance to be able 1563 01:09:34,584 --> 01:09:35,757 to have some help on that part of it. 1564 01:09:35,861 --> 01:09:38,243 But that's exhausting. It is exhausting. 1565 01:09:38,346 --> 01:09:40,279 Especially when you need immediate things, right? 1566 01:09:40,383 --> 01:09:42,592 So he had strep throat, and I needed an antibiotic. 1567 01:09:42,695 --> 01:09:44,110 Well the only antibiotic they had was dyed, 1568 01:09:44,214 --> 01:09:45,871 so then I had to call the place over here. 1569 01:09:45,974 --> 01:09:48,425 Did they have a dye free option? No, they don't. 1570 01:09:48,529 --> 01:09:49,599 Okay, we gotta go back here. 1571 01:09:49,702 --> 01:09:51,256 We gotta call the pharmacist or the doctor 1572 01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:52,740 'cause the doctor's gotta call the prescription in. 1573 01:09:52,843 --> 01:09:54,017 I mean it's exhausting. 1574 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,502 An ADHD medication is actually one 1575 01:09:56,606 --> 01:09:58,849 that's interestingly has dyes in it, 1576 01:09:58,953 --> 01:10:01,162 which exasperates the symptoms 1577 01:10:01,266 --> 01:10:02,577 and it just kind of levels in each other. 1578 01:10:02,681 --> 01:10:05,373 And so example we just had was a medication he needed, 1579 01:10:05,477 --> 01:10:06,788 we wanted to go up from one milligram to two, 1580 01:10:06,892 --> 01:10:08,894 well the two milligram has dye in it, 1581 01:10:08,997 --> 01:10:10,447 but the one milligram doesn't. 1582 01:10:10,551 --> 01:10:13,588 And so they wouldn't give him two one milligram medications 1583 01:10:13,692 --> 01:10:15,418 until we got special approval 1584 01:10:15,521 --> 01:10:16,626 because they thought we were trying to get more medication. 1585 01:10:16,729 --> 01:10:19,111 It took a week of back and forth with the doctor 1586 01:10:19,215 --> 01:10:21,078 and the pharmacy to be able to get approval 1587 01:10:21,182 --> 01:10:24,461 to have two one milligrams instead of one two milligram 1588 01:10:24,565 --> 01:10:25,911 because of the dye. 1589 01:10:26,014 --> 01:10:27,119 And now I just keep thinking as he gets older, 1590 01:10:27,223 --> 01:10:28,983 how are we gonna do this, you know. 1591 01:10:29,086 --> 01:10:32,262 It's frustrating that they just can't figure out a way 1592 01:10:32,366 --> 01:10:34,575 to dye medication with non-synthetic dyes. 1593 01:10:34,678 --> 01:10:36,301 And I understand you have to color medication 1594 01:10:36,404 --> 01:10:38,061 maybe differently, but there's so many things 1595 01:10:38,164 --> 01:10:39,200 you can color medication with 1596 01:10:39,304 --> 01:10:40,581 that you don't have to use dye for. 1597 01:10:40,684 --> 01:10:43,100 And so I just feel like if food can figure it out, 1598 01:10:43,204 --> 01:10:44,861 medicine should better figure it out. 1599 01:10:47,829 --> 01:10:49,555 [gentle music] 1600 01:10:49,659 --> 01:10:54,526 - For sure, the first 24 to 48 hours we were missing things, 1601 01:10:55,389 --> 01:10:56,700 I know, but we removed a ton 1602 01:10:56,804 --> 01:11:00,532 and it was like someone had let out some air. 1603 01:11:00,635 --> 01:11:03,017 You could just feel the pressure like in her, 1604 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,917 and in all of us decreasing, we were just so amazed 1605 01:11:07,021 --> 01:11:09,748 and confused and happy. 1606 01:11:09,851 --> 01:11:12,785 And also thinking like any second, it's all gonna change. 1607 01:11:12,889 --> 01:11:14,994 Like this can't last, 1608 01:11:15,098 --> 01:11:18,688 and this can't have any sort of connection. 1609 01:11:18,791 --> 01:11:23,279 And the days and the weeks that followed, 1610 01:11:23,382 --> 01:11:25,695 we really like went through everything at home 1611 01:11:25,798 --> 01:11:29,871 and found dyes in marshmallows, 1612 01:11:29,975 --> 01:11:30,976 and I'm like, they're not colorful, 1613 01:11:31,079 --> 01:11:34,497 why would there be an artificial dye in that? 1614 01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,499 All the things that we looked on and pulling everything out 1615 01:11:36,602 --> 01:11:40,123 and reading everything and making changes in our bathroom, 1616 01:11:40,226 --> 01:11:42,781 and our medicine cabinet, everything. 1617 01:11:43,989 --> 01:11:48,787 She like stabilized and she went from being sad 1618 01:11:50,167 --> 01:11:53,412 and angry all the time to like smiling and peaceful. 1619 01:11:53,516 --> 01:11:56,208 Like I hadn't seen her be that way since she was a baby. 1620 01:11:56,312 --> 01:11:59,107 Like where things wouldn't set her off, and she was loving 1621 01:11:59,211 --> 01:12:03,180 and affectionate and smiling and she could just be calm 1622 01:12:03,284 --> 01:12:04,906 and she started sleeping like normally, 1623 01:12:05,010 --> 01:12:07,495 like being tired in the evening and being able 1624 01:12:07,599 --> 01:12:08,910 to wake up in the morning and be happy. 1625 01:12:09,014 --> 01:12:11,085 And I know we all like tiptoed around her 1626 01:12:11,188 --> 01:12:14,571 like we had been thinking this is gonna set her off. 1627 01:12:14,675 --> 01:12:16,573 And I remember with the other kids looking at them like, 1628 01:12:16,677 --> 01:12:19,265 you don't have to be scared of Mercie anymore. 1629 01:12:19,369 --> 01:12:21,889 And like what a heartbreaking thing that was to say to them 1630 01:12:21,992 --> 01:12:26,065 and how much it helped me realize how bad it was 1631 01:12:26,169 --> 01:12:28,274 that I'm telling them like, you don't have to be afraid 1632 01:12:28,378 --> 01:12:30,242 of making her mad, like she can handle it. 1633 01:12:30,346 --> 01:12:35,351 And so now it's been five years, almost six years since then 1634 01:12:36,662 --> 01:12:40,666 and she is healthy and happy, and spunky and sassy. 1635 01:12:40,770 --> 01:12:43,220 She is not without her character and her spunk, 1636 01:12:43,324 --> 01:12:48,018 but she is a whole healthy child all because of removing 1637 01:12:48,122 --> 01:12:49,641 the artificial dyes. 1638 01:12:50,883 --> 01:12:53,610 - So I had my baby at the beginning of October, 1639 01:12:53,714 --> 01:12:56,717 and everything was chaos. 1640 01:12:56,820 --> 01:13:00,099 I wasn't sleeping, I had a new baby, I had four kids, 1641 01:13:00,203 --> 01:13:01,963 I was trying to figure out how to live life. 1642 01:13:02,067 --> 01:13:05,277 And Halloween that year was on Saturday night. 1643 01:13:05,381 --> 01:13:10,040 And so I had been bracing myself all month, 1644 01:13:10,593 --> 01:13:11,939 we can do this. 1645 01:13:12,042 --> 01:13:15,494 Sunday's gonna be terrible, we'll be okay. 1646 01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,464 So we went trick or treating, we stayed out late. 1647 01:13:19,567 --> 01:13:21,845 We went through Evan's candy, 1648 01:13:21,949 --> 01:13:25,608 and he had very carefully read the labels 1649 01:13:25,711 --> 01:13:28,404 and so we had a dye pile and a not dye pile 1650 01:13:28,507 --> 01:13:30,923 and he just ate from the not dye pile. 1651 01:13:31,027 --> 01:13:33,132 And I went, well that's a lot of sugar 1652 01:13:33,236 --> 01:13:34,858 and it's gonna be a mess anyways. 1653 01:13:34,962 --> 01:13:37,620 Our family, we go to church every Sunday 1654 01:13:37,723 --> 01:13:39,380 and church was at 9:00 a.m. 1655 01:13:39,484 --> 01:13:41,313 that Sunday morning right after Halloween. 1656 01:13:41,417 --> 01:13:43,522 And that was what I'd been dreading. 1657 01:13:43,626 --> 01:13:46,663 I was going to have to get four kids 1658 01:13:46,767 --> 01:13:51,185 including a newborn ready for church, 1659 01:13:51,288 --> 01:13:54,637 hung over on Halloween candy and staying up late. 1660 01:13:55,500 --> 01:13:57,709 And I had my baby on the floor 1661 01:13:57,812 --> 01:14:01,609 as I was putting on her little tights and her dress. 1662 01:14:01,713 --> 01:14:04,957 And Evan walked in and he didn't have his shoes on, 1663 01:14:05,061 --> 01:14:07,581 and I braced myself and I said, Evan, 1664 01:14:07,684 --> 01:14:09,721 I need you to get your shoes on. 1665 01:14:09,824 --> 01:14:13,069 And he looked up at me and he said, okay mom. 1666 01:14:16,521 --> 01:14:18,212 And in that moment 1667 01:14:18,315 --> 01:14:20,594 I knew, 1668 01:14:20,697 --> 01:14:23,182 I knew it was the food dyes. 1669 01:14:23,286 --> 01:14:27,048 That's something he would've reacted poorly to. 1670 01:14:27,152 --> 01:14:29,637 On a regular day when he'd been well rested 1671 01:14:29,741 --> 01:14:34,262 and wasn't full of candy, he would have exploded at that. 1672 01:14:35,678 --> 01:14:39,647 But that day with so many things going on, 1673 01:14:39,751 --> 01:14:44,100 he said, okay mom and put his shoes on. 1674 01:14:45,446 --> 01:14:48,138 And we got to church 10 minutes early. 1675 01:14:48,242 --> 01:14:49,623 After church when we got home 1676 01:14:49,726 --> 01:14:53,109 and we were just talking about our day, 1677 01:14:53,212 --> 01:14:55,145 I said, 1678 01:14:55,249 --> 01:14:57,907 I think the food dyes worked. 1679 01:14:58,010 --> 01:14:59,943 I think we've turned a corner. 1680 01:15:00,944 --> 01:15:02,877 And we kept seeing improvements, 1681 01:15:04,223 --> 01:15:08,434 and I realized how many experiences that I had missed 1682 01:15:08,538 --> 01:15:12,922 and I remember realizing what a dramatic change we've seen 1683 01:15:13,025 --> 01:15:16,822 and that something had switched in his brain. 1684 01:15:16,926 --> 01:15:21,240 He'd gone from violent, incredible hulk 1685 01:15:21,344 --> 01:15:26,591 nuclear level meltdowns to a super sweet little boy 1686 01:15:27,661 --> 01:15:29,041 who'd been hiding there all that time. 1687 01:15:31,423 --> 01:15:32,148 Come here buddy. 1688 01:15:38,672 --> 01:15:39,880 I love you. 1689 01:15:42,330 --> 01:15:43,711 - [Brandon] The stories and the science shared 1690 01:15:43,815 --> 01:15:46,507 in this film demand more than just passive awareness. 1691 01:15:46,611 --> 01:15:47,888 They beckon for change. 1692 01:15:47,991 --> 01:15:50,718 And though the film may end when the credits roll, 1693 01:15:50,822 --> 01:15:52,789 we are now standing at the crossroads of awareness 1694 01:15:52,893 --> 01:15:55,999 and action asking, what's next? 1695 01:15:58,001 --> 01:16:00,556 - Most companies are not going to get rid of dyes 1696 01:16:00,659 --> 01:16:02,868 unless something forces them to do so. 1697 01:16:02,972 --> 01:16:04,387 They're not gonna just do it 1698 01:16:04,490 --> 01:16:05,906 because it's the right thing to do. 1699 01:16:06,009 --> 01:16:10,013 So that's why a documentary like yours is so important. 1700 01:16:10,117 --> 01:16:11,670 We need to get the message out there 1701 01:16:11,774 --> 01:16:14,155 and put pressure on companies. 1702 01:16:14,259 --> 01:16:15,881 It's only consumer pressure, 1703 01:16:15,985 --> 01:16:21,024 or policy changes like warning labels or better yet, 1704 01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,372 get these dyes banned that will make them stop using them. 1705 01:16:24,476 --> 01:16:25,719 - [Brandon] So with that being said, 1706 01:16:25,822 --> 01:16:28,514 it looks like it's up to us, the consumer. 1707 01:16:28,618 --> 01:16:31,552 The natural first step is removing dyes from your household. 1708 01:16:31,656 --> 01:16:33,278 Learning how to read labels and avoid dyes 1709 01:16:33,381 --> 01:16:34,969 is by far the best way to remove 1710 01:16:35,073 --> 01:16:38,317 or limit dyes for you and your family. 1711 01:16:38,421 --> 01:16:40,078 - So when you're reading a label, 1712 01:16:40,181 --> 01:16:42,943 the artificial dyes have to be on the label. 1713 01:16:43,046 --> 01:16:45,255 There is actually lots of other ingredients 1714 01:16:45,359 --> 01:16:46,774 that can be hidden. 1715 01:16:46,878 --> 01:16:49,294 You can hide a whole slew of ingredients 1716 01:16:49,397 --> 01:16:50,951 under the term natural flavors, 1717 01:16:51,054 --> 01:16:53,747 but with artificial dyes you do have to list them. 1718 01:16:53,850 --> 01:16:57,129 So you will see the blue 1, the red 40, the yellow 5, 1719 01:16:57,233 --> 01:16:59,925 the yellow 6 listed on the label. 1720 01:17:00,029 --> 01:17:02,445 - It seems overwhelming but when you get into it, 1721 01:17:02,548 --> 01:17:03,757 just like most things, 1722 01:17:03,860 --> 01:17:05,551 it's not as hard as you think it's gonna be. 1723 01:17:05,655 --> 01:17:07,726 You just have to be more cognizant of what you're getting, 1724 01:17:07,830 --> 01:17:09,383 and reading all the labels. 1725 01:17:09,486 --> 01:17:12,835 But it's everyday advocacy of like him and what he can have 1726 01:17:12,938 --> 01:17:14,664 and what he can't have and explaining and talking, 1727 01:17:14,768 --> 01:17:18,254 and answering questions and those kind of things. 1728 01:17:18,357 --> 01:17:21,913 - How do you tell if a child has a food dye sensitivity? 1729 01:17:22,016 --> 01:17:24,467 You remove it from their food, 1730 01:17:24,570 --> 01:17:27,332 you feed them foods that are dye free 1731 01:17:27,435 --> 01:17:29,437 and you watch 'em for two weeks 1732 01:17:29,541 --> 01:17:30,818 and you will know. 1733 01:17:30,922 --> 01:17:33,890 If you see a behavior change, you know. 1734 01:17:33,994 --> 01:17:39,033 So no risk in removing them, but everything to gain. 1735 01:17:40,414 --> 01:17:43,451 - [Brandon] Secondly, spread the word, tell your story. 1736 01:17:45,039 --> 01:17:48,422 - It is so simple in practice like yeah, 1737 01:17:48,525 --> 01:17:49,803 it can feel overwhelming at first, 1738 01:17:49,906 --> 01:17:54,946 but the reality is to be able to give that information 1739 01:17:56,188 --> 01:17:57,431 to families that feel like they are drowning, 1740 01:17:57,534 --> 01:18:01,711 and they are stuck and they're hopeless is huge. 1741 01:18:01,815 --> 01:18:04,265 I had people, after I shared my story on Facebook, 1742 01:18:04,369 --> 01:18:07,061 strangers and friends reach out to me 1743 01:18:07,165 --> 01:18:09,650 talk about their grown children. 1744 01:18:09,754 --> 01:18:13,550 They're like, you just described my entire, 1745 01:18:13,654 --> 01:18:15,863 my entire raising of my child. 1746 01:18:15,967 --> 01:18:18,728 So when I'm sad that like it was two years 1747 01:18:18,832 --> 01:18:22,732 of literally hell on earth in our family, 1748 01:18:22,836 --> 01:18:24,769 it also was only two years 1749 01:18:24,872 --> 01:18:28,911 and like we have so many healthy years beyond that, 1750 01:18:29,014 --> 01:18:31,085 I'm just super grateful. 1751 01:18:32,259 --> 01:18:33,778 - [Brandon] Get involved with your school systems, 1752 01:18:33,881 --> 01:18:35,987 and help educate the boards and decision makers. 1753 01:18:36,090 --> 01:18:38,714 Education is key because like Thomas said. 1754 01:18:38,817 --> 01:18:41,544 - People generally probably don't know 1755 01:18:41,647 --> 01:18:42,821 that this is a problem. 1756 01:18:42,925 --> 01:18:46,583 - There are federal laws that require any schools 1757 01:18:46,687 --> 01:18:50,380 who are recipients of the free and reduced lunch program 1758 01:18:50,484 --> 01:18:54,005 or breakfast programs, the board of ed has to have a policy 1759 01:18:54,108 --> 01:18:56,904 that has to encompass student wellness. 1760 01:18:57,008 --> 01:18:59,182 It has to address obesity, 1761 01:18:59,286 --> 01:19:01,944 different health issues within the school 1762 01:19:02,047 --> 01:19:03,600 and for the students. 1763 01:19:03,704 --> 01:19:06,914 Within that policy, parents can demand 1764 01:19:07,018 --> 01:19:10,262 that artificial food dyes are addressed. 1765 01:19:10,366 --> 01:19:12,989 There's education surrounding it. 1766 01:19:13,093 --> 01:19:15,026 You can start at the local level. 1767 01:19:15,129 --> 01:19:16,717 - [Brandon] If we really wanna make an impact, 1768 01:19:16,821 --> 01:19:18,961 we're gonna need to make some racket. 1769 01:19:19,064 --> 01:19:21,446 If companies are citing lack of public demand, 1770 01:19:21,549 --> 01:19:22,861 then let's demand it. 1771 01:19:22,965 --> 01:19:24,380 Reach out to companies and brands, 1772 01:19:24,483 --> 01:19:26,831 and let them know you aren't happy with these chemicals 1773 01:19:26,934 --> 01:19:28,349 and write your politicians. 1774 01:19:28,453 --> 01:19:30,351 We are currently witnessing a handful of states 1775 01:19:30,455 --> 01:19:32,906 make a stand against food dyes and other chemicals. 1776 01:19:33,009 --> 01:19:34,252 Let your state legislators know 1777 01:19:34,355 --> 01:19:36,875 that your state wants those changes to you. 1778 01:19:38,394 --> 01:19:42,881 - Policymakers, either personally or through their staff 1779 01:19:44,055 --> 01:19:48,991 read the correspondence that people send to them. 1780 01:19:50,233 --> 01:19:53,719 Until things get hot, you don't change behaviors. 1781 01:19:53,823 --> 01:19:56,653 And every legislature, 1782 01:19:56,757 --> 01:19:58,794 whether it's the United States Congress 1783 01:19:58,897 --> 01:20:03,799 or the state legislators, listen to the public. 1784 01:20:05,214 --> 01:20:07,078 So if the public comes in and says, why would we protect 1785 01:20:07,181 --> 01:20:09,632 the kids in California and not protect our kids? 1786 01:20:09,735 --> 01:20:11,979 What's wrong? I mean, you represent me 1787 01:20:13,015 --> 01:20:15,776 and you can articulate your desire 1788 01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,261 to have change in many ways. 1789 01:20:18,365 --> 01:20:20,746 You don't hear from people, you might not do anything. 1790 01:20:20,850 --> 01:20:22,679 You hear from a couple of people, 1791 01:20:22,783 --> 01:20:24,958 eh, you know I can take a little heat. 1792 01:20:25,061 --> 01:20:29,376 You get a lot of folks that galvanize a clear message 1793 01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:32,206 of we want change now. 1794 01:20:32,310 --> 01:20:35,002 Then you start having change. 1795 01:20:35,106 --> 01:20:37,936 - [Brandon] Together, we have the power to drive change. 1796 01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,456 It starts with us and it starts now. 1797 01:20:42,147 --> 01:20:45,668 We are a force to be reckoned with and your voice matters. 1798 01:20:45,771 --> 01:20:47,083 So let's make it heard. 1799 01:20:49,672 --> 01:20:52,019 - [All] We did it! 1800 01:20:52,123 --> 01:20:53,607 - I can't believe we actually made a documentary. 1801 01:20:53,710 --> 01:20:54,711 - Me too! 1802 01:20:54,815 --> 01:20:56,713 - Me too! 1803 01:20:56,817 --> 01:20:59,509 - [Brandon] This has been the adventure of a lifetime. 1804 01:20:59,613 --> 01:21:01,339 - [Whitney] And we couldn't have done it without the support 1805 01:21:01,442 --> 01:21:02,581 of our community. 1806 01:21:02,685 --> 01:21:04,514 - Where can people go to get more information 1807 01:21:04,618 --> 01:21:05,999 and learn how to get involved? 1808 01:21:06,102 --> 01:21:08,380 - Todyeforthedocumentary. - ...com. 1809 01:21:08,484 --> 01:21:09,795 - Good job. 1810 01:21:09,899 --> 01:21:11,556 Click on the resources tab 1811 01:21:11,659 --> 01:21:13,799 where you can find our 30 Day Dye-Free Challenge 1812 01:21:13,903 --> 01:21:16,181 as well as templates for writing decision makers. 1813 01:21:16,285 --> 01:21:17,424 Even though the film's over, 1814 01:21:17,527 --> 01:21:18,908 this is really just the beginning. 1815 01:21:19,012 --> 01:21:21,083 - And we can't wait to see what we can do together. 1816 01:21:21,186 --> 01:21:21,946 - What do we say guys? 1817 01:21:22,049 --> 01:21:23,602 - [All] That's a wrap! 1818 01:21:25,156 --> 01:21:29,574 ♪ I'm counting my blessings too many to remember ♪ 1819 01:21:30,644 --> 01:21:32,232 ♪ I'm singing your praises 1820 01:21:32,335 --> 01:21:35,614 ♪ Each and everyday I live my life in surrender ♪ 1821 01:21:35,718 --> 01:21:40,585 ♪ I'm counting my blessings from January to December ♪ 1822 01:21:42,138 --> 01:21:44,037 ♪ Gotta keep up with all of His goodness and wonder ♪ 1823 01:21:44,140 --> 01:21:46,729 ♪ Every day I make the choice to remember ♪ 1824 01:21:46,832 --> 01:21:51,907 ♪ I'm counting my blessings 1825 01:21:52,838 --> 01:21:57,533 ♪ I'm counting my blessings 1826 01:21:58,948 --> 01:22:03,056 ♪ You never fail to remind me I'm enough ♪ 1827 01:22:04,574 --> 01:22:08,371 ♪ I look around and see all the things you've done ♪ 1828 01:22:08,475 --> 01:22:13,307 ♪ Then you fill me with your peace and perfect love ♪ 1829 01:22:14,688 --> 01:22:16,552 ♪ You tell me you're working it all for my good ♪ 1830 01:22:16,655 --> 01:22:20,349 ♪ Making a way when I didn't think you could ♪ 1831 01:22:20,452 --> 01:22:25,457 ♪ I'm counting my blessings too many to remember ♪ 1832 01:22:26,286 --> 01:22:27,804 ♪ I'm singing your praises 1833 01:22:27,908 --> 01:22:31,532 ♪ Each and every day I live my life in surrender ♪ 1834 01:22:31,636 --> 01:22:36,434 ♪ I'm counting my blessings from January to December ♪ 1835 01:22:36,537 --> 01:22:39,955 ♪ Gotta keep up with all of His goodness and wonder ♪ 1836 01:22:40,058 --> 01:22:42,647 ♪ Every day I make the choice to remember ♪ 1837 01:22:42,750 --> 01:22:47,583 ♪ I'm counting my blessings 1838 01:22:48,894 --> 01:22:53,037 ♪ I'm counting my blessings 1839 01:22:53,140 --> 01:22:55,280 ♪ Name them one by one 1840 01:22:55,384 --> 01:22:58,663 ♪ See what God has done 1841 01:22:58,766 --> 01:23:01,666 ♪ So much to be thankful for 1842 01:23:01,769 --> 01:23:03,944 ♪ So much to be grateful for 1843 01:23:04,048 --> 01:23:06,843 ♪ Name them one by one 1844 01:23:06,947 --> 01:23:09,950 ♪ See what God has done 1845 01:23:10,054 --> 01:23:15,128 ♪ So much to be thankful for 1846 01:23:16,543 --> 01:23:21,030 ♪ I'm counting my blessing too many to remember ♪ 1847 01:23:21,893 --> 01:23:24,068 ♪ I'm singing your praises 1848 01:23:24,171 --> 01:23:27,209 ♪ Each and every day I live my life in surrender ♪ 1849 01:23:27,312 --> 01:23:32,352 ♪ I'm counting my blessings from January to December ♪ 1850 01:23:33,732 --> 01:23:35,493 ♪ Gotta keep up with all of His goodness and wonder ♪ 1851 01:23:35,596 --> 01:23:38,392 ♪ Every day I make the choice to remember ♪ 1852 01:23:38,496 --> 01:23:43,570 ♪ I'm counting my blessings 1853 01:23:44,502 --> 01:23:47,712 ♪ I'm counting my blessings 1854 01:23:50,991 --> 01:23:53,269 [no audio] 141684

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