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- I am Janice Mead of KJT TV

reporting live from 321 Franklin Street.

The police have just arrested David Kates

for the killings of six area women.

The 45-year-old resident was employed

at the Micro Metals Foundry.

Local residents are shocked by the arrest

and reports of body parts being found in the residence.

More details at 11:00.

- Come in.

- Hello. - Oh, Dave. Dave.

Have a seat. - Thank you, Doctor.

- What brings you here today?

- Well, I've been thinking about what we said

and you are right.

I knew what was wrong, what I did,

and it's time I faced up to it

and I will cooperate with you now,

go through the treatment, whatever you think.

- Well, I'm glad to hear that.

There wasn't really much we could do for you

until you were ready for help.

- I know now my problem with

all those women I killed goes back to

the Major in Vietnam.

And how I was so scared of her that

I was so scared of all women.

I just had to control them

and that's the only way I could control them,

was to kill them.

I just have that rage in men.

Sometimes I just can't control it.

I know I'm never gonna be released.

I know I'm gonna be in here or prison forever,

but I still have to live with myself

and I'm willing to do whatever you think I have to do.

Help me, please.

Okay, Kates.

It's time for lights out.

Back to your cell.

- I finished, Doctor.

I'm glad you let me do this because

before I came in here I really enjoyed planning vacations

and camping and it's a way to experience that again.

I've planned your itinerary day for day,

almost hour for hour,

and I think you'll enjoy the trip across country.

Here and try to follow it

so you don't miss anything I planned.

- Well, thank you, David.

I'm sure I'll have no trouble

following all this detail you've given me here for the trip

and I really appreciate you doing this.

And I must tell you that after I leave here,

I'm having you transferred to minimum security.

- Thank you

- Well, good luck

and I hope you do well in your new quarters.

- Maybe someday, Doc, we'll meet again somewhere.

Thank you. - Okay.

- What?

- But if you got any brains,

you'll stay out of trouble at minimum security.

Otherwise you'll be right back here again where you started.

Let's go.

- Hello. How are you doing?

- Hi. How are you?

- Okay. Did you have a nice vacation?

- Oh yes, very nice,

but it's really tough to get back into the normal routine.

- Yes.

I'd like to talk to you about a certain patient

that was moved over from maximum security into your section.

- Oh, do you mean David Kates? - Yes. Have you met him yet?

- Well, I saw him when I came on duty today.

- Well, I think it was a mistake for him

to transfer him to this minimum security section.

I don't think he's ready.

- Isn't he the one that was in

for killing some women six or seven years ago?

Yes, he is.

I have his file and I want you to read it

as soon as you can.

And I spoke to him several times since Dr. Woods left

and I feel like he's just still too dangerous.

- Why did they transfer him to minimum security?

Well, I think he fooled Dr. Woods,

but I, for one, was glad to see

Dr. Woods leave for a position.

He went to a position for a mental hospital in New Jersey.

- The doctor did seem a little different to me.

- He had some very unorthodox methods.

Did you know that he is camping

across the country this summer?

- That's not odd. - No.

The odd thing is that, that David Kates

planned the trip for him.

- Why?

All the therapy,

it gave the patient something to do.

Kates told me about it yesterday.

The patient always claimed that

he Killed because of what he had experienced in Vietnam.

- What was that?

- Well, in Vietnam, some of the men under his command,

they were captured and mutilated.

And then this David Kates,

he ordered or he participated

in the mutilation of the enemy female soldier

that was captured. - How horrible.

- Oh, yes.

When he was committed these murders though,

in Carson City in 1986,

he claimed it was the result of a flashback

and it was a delayed stress syndrome.

- How could he just explain away the killings?

Well, he had a normal life

for 20 years after the war and then,

- After 20 years?

And why those women?

- No one knows why. He just snapped after 20 years.

But he said that it had something to do with that,

these women, they had long black hair

and this how somehow triggered him and he had a flashback.

He killed them because of their hair?

- He said he believed that they were around this major time

as the officer that was mutilated in Vietnam

and that he feared for himself and his men

and that he had to eliminate them.

What do you want me to do?

- I want you to keep a close eye on him

and keep me informed at all times.

I'm going to have him put over

into maximum security again as soon as I can.

I think he's faking. I think he's very dangerous.

- I'll keep you informed.

- David, what are you doing here?

- Well, I'm waiting for Dr. Carlson, Nurse Benson.

- Oh, I just came here to pick up something.

- That's a very attractive outfit.

Is that like a new uniform?

- Oh no, David. Actually I'm not working today.

I just came to pick this up and I'll be going now.

It was nice seeing you.

- I'll be thinking of you tonight when I go to bed.

David, but what do you mean by that?

In my prayers, I think of you all the time.

- Damn it. I'm gonna be late for work again.

- Nancy.

- Oh, hi. - Hi

- How you doing? - Good.

Have you seen any changes or on behavior in David Kates?

- No, he's a model patient. No trouble at all.

- But now don't let him lure you into a sense of security.

You see, I don't trust him.

I think he's still very dangerous.

- I'm still watching him, but there's nothing to report.

Hello, David. How are you today?

- Hello, Nurse Benson. I'm fine.

- Did you sleep well? - Very well.

- Good.

Have you been eating well?

- Very well. - That's great.

Now how do you feel today,

happy, sad, depressed, angry?

- I'm happy.

- Happy.

Why are you happy?

- Well, I'm not in maximum security anymore

and there's a lot more things I can do now.

- Yeah, so it must be good to have more freedom.

- Yeah, it is

. I understand. Dr. Carlson is trying

to get me transferred back to maximum security.

- I haven't heard that. Are you sure?

- That's what I heard.

- David, get up on the table please.

Okay.

I'm just gonna listen to your heartbeat here, okay?

Yeah.

Sounds pretty good so far.

You are doing very well, David. I'm proud of you.

- You know, going back to maximum security

would interfere with my plans.

- Plans?

What plans are you talking about, David?

- My plans to meet up with Dr. Wood

on his vacation and assume his identity.

- David, now you know that that's not possible.

How can you get out of the hospital?

- That's part one of my plan.

And that part starts right now.

David!

- This is Janice Mead from the rear of Hall of Justice.

Police and Department of Corrections personnel

are combing the countryside

for escaped serial murderer, David Kates.

Kates was found not guilty by reason of insanity

for deaths and mutilations of six area women

killed nearly five years ago.

He was transferred from a maximum

to a minimum security prison three days before his escape.

Nancy Benson, a psychiatric nurse,

was killed by Kates during his escape.

The governor is calling

for an investigation of the incidents.

More news at 11:00.

- Cathy, are you okay?

- Yes.

I just cannot get the idea

of Nancy's death out of my mind.

I should have acted faster.

I should have gotten him moved

in a maximum security right away.

- You did all you could. He fooled everyone.

Now he's dead. It's over.

- Nurse, are you sure he's dead?

- They found his clothes and a note by a bridge.

He must have jumped.

- No, they didn't find his body.

The person doesn't escape all the way to Idaho

to jump off a bridge.

- They probably never find the jumpers.

Maybe he got that far, felt hopeless and jumped.

- Well, I don't believe it.

I think he's out there somewhere planning something.

- Thanks for the card, Doc.

You're a stupid bastard.

You followed my itinerary just a little too well.

I would stay and talk to you,

but I got some women to go see.

- Oh, damn lights.

Jesus Christ.

- What are you doing here?

- Remember me from the bar?

- Yeah, I remember you from the bar. How'd you get in here?

- You remind me of a couple women

that got me in trouble over the years.

You know that?

- What are you gonna do with that?

- You'll find out.

You're nothing but a,

Get off.

Get off me.

Get off.

Somebody help.

Help.

Get off.

Help. Somebody help.

Help.

Get off.

Somebody help.

What are you doing?

What are you doing?

- Cut her arms up.

Oh, Major.

We meet again.

I'll be thinking of you when I have my snack later.

- Hi, Nance.

I see our boy still on page one.

- Hi, Fred. I'm not surprised.

All my friends are scared to death.

They're even asking me about getting guns.

- Well, that sounds like a good idea.

Just make sure they know which end the bullet comes out of.

- I'm not kidding.

All those victims were killed in their own homes.

- Hey, you're safe here at work. Cops all around you.

- Yeah, I'm 23 years old.

Only 18 more years until I retire.

I'm just gonna move my stuff in the station, right,

where should I put my bed?

In the interrogation room or the holding cell?

- You shouldn't be worried. You're a cop.

- I know I'm a cop - And a damn good one too.

- Yeah, but does the killer know that.

He breaks into my house when I'm asleep,

is he gonna say, "Oh no, she's a cop.

I'll go find some defenseless citizen to butcher instead?”

- Nancy, now calm down.

- That's easy for you to say. He's not killing men.

They never kill men.

- What about the guy in Chicago? The guy in Houston?

- Oh, pardon me. Once in a while they kill a man or two.

Fred I'm scared.

He not only kills them,

but he dismembers them in their own bathtubs.

- To no move that boyfriend of yours into your apartment.

- Nick can't move in right away.

- All right. You work it out.

Now, just calm down.

- Oh, excuse me.

Officer Krupp?

- Yes, - I'm John Woods.

The captain said you might be able

to show me an office I can use for a few days.

Are you're the guy from the mental hospital?

- Yes.

I'm here to help work up the profile

of I'm the serial killer.

Okay, how about if I show you his office?

- All right, fine.

- All right. This is Lieutenant Clark's office

and here are the papers you requested.

All right.

I'm gonna go through them.

If I have any questions or need anything,

I'll give you a call. - Okay.

- By the way, who was that officer

you were talking to in the coffee room?

- Her name is Nancy Conte.

- Where does she work?

- She works in the Major Crimes Department.

- All right. Well look, thanks a lot.

I'll get started on this. - Okay.

- Hello? - Hey. Hi.

Can I talk to you for a minute?

- Yeah, sure. What is it?

These killings, I mean, why does he do it?

What would make a person kill total strangers?

- Well, we can't say for sure what it is,

but tell you what we think it is.

- Yes, I would like that, please.

- Well, the best we could tell,

there's probably something in his past

that caused a tremendous hatred towards women

and probably something in his present life

just triggered that hatred

and his rage got out of control and he started killing.

Judging by the length of time between the killings,

apparently he can control that rage

and unless he either loses control

or we get lucky and get a break,

we just may never catch him.

- Why does he kill them like that? He cut them off.

- How or why he kills them

doesn't really make any difference.

What he does to the corpses is what's significant.

The dismemberment in the bathtub

is symbolic of taking your enemy apart

and scattering the parts to the wind.

You do that so they can't come back together

and never get you.

That's very, very sick

- And this man is very, very dangerous.

I'm frightened just thinking about it

- And well, you should be.

Nobody's safe until he is caught

- Or killed.

Is anybody there?

- What do you want?

- You got a phone call.

Your boyfriend's on the phone in my office.

I've got him on hold.

- All right.

Bet I can guess why he's calling me.

Hello, Nick.

- Okay, these would be fine.

All of these in Washington tomorrow morning.

Get 'em out priority mail tonight.

Thanks, sweetheart.

Hi. Meet me at the crystal room for a drink.

- I'm not sure. I'm tired.

- Come on. Just a few drinks

- Fine, but just one drink. That's it.

Look, if you can't stay the night, then just leave now.

- Nancy, you don't understand.

I want to stay but I can't.

- Why?

Do we have to go through all this again?

- Listen, it's me or it's her.

- It's not her, it's you.

But I have to stay for the kids.

- Well, what about us? I mean, do we have a future or not?

- Of course we do, but I just have to work things out.

Give me a chance. Three months.

- No, you have one month to work things out.

I will not wait any longer.

- You won't be disappointed.

Sounds good.

- Hey.

I'll give you a call tomorrow.

- Okay.

- Hello, Officer Conte.

That's a very becoming outfit.

- Mr. Wood, what are you doing here?

- You seem very interested in serial killers.

Maybe you'd like a firsthand demonstration.

- Get outta my apartment,

- I'll give the orders.

Don't give me any trouble and you may live through this.

Put your hands down.

Just do what you're told and maybe you'll get through this.

- Why are you doing this?

- Why?

I was attracted to you the minute I saw you at the station.

It was me in the locker room.

I was the one watching you

and I was the one watching you with your boyfriend too.

You're a beautiful woman.

- You're sick.

- I'm sick?

- You know, you're not the only one

that ever called me sick.

That's what my ex-wife used to say and I didn't like it.

She said it either.

- What a laugh.

We'll see who's laughing soon.

All right.

- The joke's over. Untie me.

- Joke?

Let's see what are we gonna need this?

- Come on. Knock it off.

Quit joking around.

- Hello. Killer Video.

Yes, we have that tape and I can reserve it for you.

Okay, Ms. Peters. I'll take care of it.

Hello. Killer Video.

Well, hello to you too.

You were supposed to call hours ago

and I was almost out the door.

Okay. Okay, Jim.

I believe you.

Well, I spoke to Nancy before she went out to work

and I told her I'd go out with her tonight

and listen to some bands.

Are you worried I might meet someone

who knows how to treat a girl?

Well, I saw some of those girls that are in the reserves.

You're not sharing a foxhole

with one of them tonight, are you?

Sure, I love you.

Well, call me tomorrow at home.

I've really gotta go.

Nancy's gonna be waiting for me.

- We just need you to look around the room

and see if there's anything missing.

We can't seem to find her keys.

Do you know where they would be?

In her pocketbook.

- It doesn't look like anything's missing.

- All right.

Look, we'll look in the other rooms

and I wanna take you downtown.

All right.

It was only this morning that she mentioned

that she was scared about this whole thing.

- Now she's gone.

- We'll find her.

- I just heard.

She seemed like such a nice young woman too.

- She was a beautiful person.

- Doc, this is Jean Marks. She was Nancy's roommate.

- I'm very, very sorry.

She seems so,

- The doc here is from the state mental hospital.

He's here to help us with the case.

- Ms. Marks, you must give the officer

and I all the information you can

that might possibly lead to a suspect.

- You think it might be someone I know.

- We haven't ruled out that possibility,

but we still haven't been able

to link the killings together.

- Well, what do you wanna know?

- Well, look.

Gimme the names of all the people

that visited you or Nancy at the apartment.

- Well, there's really not that many.

I kind of just moved here.

And there's Jim, my boyfriend, Nancy's brother,

oh, and Nancy's boyfriend, Nick.

- Ms. Marks, none of your family members

have been to your apartment?

- No, I'm here from Ohio. I'm attending Bell College.

- Did Nancy say anything to you

about anyone she was concerned about?

Not that I know of.

- Do you have some place you could stay tonight

instead of going back to the apartment?

- I can stay at my boyfriend's. I have his key.

- Gimme the address and phone number.

You can have an officer stay with you tonight if you want.

- Why

- Ms. Marks, I don't think you understand,

the killer might not have been after Nancy,

he might have been after you.

There's no way we could tell at this point.

I can't believe that.

I'll be okay at his apartment.

There's a gun there and I'll use it.

- Look, I'll call you tomorrow

and you can come in and gimme a formal statement then.

- I'm afraid there's going to be another killing very soon.

- What makes you think that.

Nancy's killing was too close to the last death?

I feel the rage that is driving the killer

is starting to get outta control.

I think now he's being driven by the rage.

- Do you have any idea when he might strike next?

I'd say very soon.

I assume he's already planning the next killing.

- All right.

I better get these files down to the office.

- Here's the address and number where I can be reached.

- Okay, that's good. Thank you.

- Hello, Ms. Marks?

Yeah, this is Dr. Woods from the station.

You know Officer Krupp wanted me to give you a call tonight

to make sure you're okay and also to see if I can come over.

There's some additional information

that you might be able to give us.

Do you think I could come over in a little while?

- Well, I was just getting ready for bed, but it's okay.

- Very good. I'll be over in about 20 minutes.

Goodbye.

- Can I take your coat?

- Oh sure.

I'm sorry to bother you so late.

Officer Krupp thought this was really important.

- That's okay.

Can I get you something to drink?

- Cup of coffee. - Sounds good.

How do you like your coffee?

- White and sweet.

Okay.

- | hope you don't mind your coffee a little strong.

- Oh no, that's fine.

Thanks. - You are welcome.

- You know, it's really hard to believe she's gone.

- Well, something you're gonna have to adjust to.

- I called my boyfriend.

He's on his way back here.

- Will we be here soon? - Yes.

Is there anybody you could think of

that would want to hurt you or possibly kill you?

- No, not that I can think of.

No. Why?

- What about at school?

- School? No.

- Any rejected suitors?

Any trouble with any of your professors?

- No. - What about at work?

- No, just normal customers.

I've never had a problem with any of them.

- There's nobody you could think of

that would want to kill you.

- No.

- Isn't there at least

one person that would wanna kill you?

Would love to,

- It was a good cup of coffee.

- I was in Chicago on a case when Nancy's brother called me.

I couldn't believe she'd been killed.

I was so shocked and angry.

- Yeah, we were all upset.

She was such a nice girl.

- Is there any physical evidence?

- Well, there are fingerprints, some hair samples

with no suspects to match 'em with.

- Who's been assigned? - Smith and Fry.

They're good cops. They just need a break.

- I actually regret leaving the force.

I would give my right arm to be there

when they catch this crazy son of a bitch,

so I can cut his balls off personally.

- So where are you gonna start?

- I'm gonna start with her boyfriend, Nick Glass.

- Send an officer out right away.

Yeah, you're welcome.

- Hey, Fred. - How you doing, Doc?

- Anything new come in on the case?

- No, nothing's coming in.

Listen, I've been a cop for a lot of years now

and I've never come across one that dealt

with dismemberment like this.

Is this common?

- Well Fred, dismemberment isn't really that common,

but it does go back a long way in history.

Back in the Spanish Inquisition in the Middle Ages,

that was like one of the common forms of execution.

Even in "Custer's Last Stand,"”

Indians dismembered the bodies.

They felt the spirit couldn't go on to heaven

unless the body was in one piece.

When I was in Vietnam,

we used to go against this North Vietnamese battalion

every once in a while

and they caught a couple of our people

and that's what they did to them.

They had a woman CO that was extremely vicious.

You know, one night we got 'em in an ambush

and we managed to catch their CO.

I'll leave it to your imagination what we did,

but we never had any trouble with them anymore.

- That's interesting.

Listen, I gotta make a phone call. I'll see you later.

Yeah, Mrs. Smith.

- I'm not kidding.

Those victims were killed in their own homes.

- Why does he kill them like that? He cut them up.

- Yeah.

New Jersey State Hospital?

Yeah, could I have the Personnel Department, please?

Hi, I'm Officer Krupp from the Port Huron Police Department.

Yeah, I'm calling about a Dr. Woods.

He apparently worked with you.

He's helping us out on a case that we're having here

and I'm just doing a routine background check

on all the people involved.

Could you tell me how long he's been with you?

Two months.

And do you know where he came from?

Okay.

The Oregon State Mental Hospital?

You have the number there.

Okay. Thanks a lot for your help.

Hi, could I have the Personnel Department, please?

This is Officer Krupp from the Port Huron Police Department.

Hi listen, we're doing a background check

on a Dr. Wood that's helping us out on a case here.

I was wondering if you could possibly send us

a copy of his personnel record

along with a fingerprint card.

Yeah, my fax number is 218-347-8429.

Okay. Thanks a lot for your help.

There's nothing here about him being in the military.

I think I'll run his prints,

compare 'em to the prints we picked up at the crime scene.

- Okay, I will. Yeah, thanks a lot.

- But what connection do you make

between the murders of Jean Marks and Nancy Conte?

- Well, just like the detectives, I'm baffled.

The only thing we could think of is,

maybe the killer thought gene knew something

and he panicked and he had to kill her too.

- No. No, I don't think so.

He doesn't seem like a guy who would panic.

- I understand you were

on this police department at one time.

- Seems like a lifetime ago.

I quit to become a private detective.

- Is that how you knew Nancy Conte?

- No, we were neighbors.

God, we got so close.

I'm the one who convinced her to join the police force.

- You shouldn't feel guilty over this.

This must be a difficult case for you to work on.

- It's difficult or not,

I'm gonna nail this crazy son of a bitch

and put 'em away for good.

- Hey Pete, did you get a chance

to check Dr. Woods's fingerprint card

and compare it to the prints

you lifted at the crime scenes.

Came out negative?

I just had had this hunch.

I mean, he gave me this bowl story about

being in the military,

but there's nothing in his records indicating that he

ever went overseas.

In fact that he was far off.

All right. Thanks a lot.

- Doc. I've got a hunch.

Let me run it by you.

- I'm all ears.

- Okay.

Let's assume that the killer enjoys what he's doing.

- That's a safe assumption to make.

- What link has there been between all

of the killings since Nancy's death?

- Besides Jean and Nancy being roommates?

Nothing I can think of.

- They were all at the police station

just prior to being killed.

- What are you getting at?

- I think it's someone with ties in the department.

- Do you have any evidence to support that theory?

- I haven't made the connection yet,

but I'm sure there is one.

It could be anything.

They made a complaint,

they were pulled over.

Anything.

- You have to find a connection

between all the people killed before Nancy.

- Fred Krupp is working on that right now.

- He's doing the research?

- There's more.

The only common item

stolen from each of the victims has been her keys.

Why?

- Some killers like to take a trophy.

It helps 'em relive the experience.

- Right.

And what's the best way for him to relive that experience

- By handling the trophy.

- To relive the experience at the scene of the crime,

he took their keys to go back to the scene of the murders?

- No, I can't believe that.

He wouldn't take that big a chance on getting caught.

- Caught by whom?

No one is watching the scene.

- What are you gonna do?

Stake out all the victim's homes?

No. It's too late for that.

But I am going to stake out Nancy's house.

- Why her house?

- It was padlocked until today.

Because of the lab tests being delayed.

All of the others are either still sealed and padlocked

or they're occupied.

- I don't think your theory's correct,

but if it is, it could be very dangerous.

You're not going there alone, are you?

- No. Fred's going to be with me.

We start tonight.

It's nearly 4:00.

Do you think he's gonna show?

- If not tonight, tomorrow night

- I hear a car.

- It's the Doc.

What's he doing here?

- I told him we would be here tonight.

I didn't expect him to show up.

Huh? What are you doing here?

- I thought about what you said. You could be right.

He might come here tonight.

- Doc, this is police work.

What the hell are you doing here?

- Fred? I'm armed and I know how to use it.

I've been to Vietnam.

- Somebody could have seen you come into the parking lot.

I watched for a long time before I pulled in.

Nobody was out there.

- All right guys. Guys.

Okay, we're here to watch. Okay.

- Just put that thing away.

- I hear something. - I didn't hear anything.

- I hear it again.

Fred, let's go check.

Gail, keep an eye on the door.

Hold on, Fred.

Do you hear something? - No.

- You sure? - Yeah.

- Where's Fred?

- He's gonna watch from the other room.

- It's almost morning.

Might have been wrong.

- I don't think you're wrong.

- You think he'll show?

- But he's already here.

- What?

- This is Janice Mead of KJT TV

reporting on the continuing hunt

for escape serial killer David Kates.

It has been five months

since he was last seen in New Jersey.

He assumed the identity of his psychiatrist

who disappeared while on vacation.

His body has never been recovered.

Using that new identity,

Kates was able to continue his killing spree,

which culminated in the of several members

of the local law enforcement.

It is believed Kates,

Hello?

No. What time is it?

Oh, I'm sorry. I was busy and I lost track of time.

All right. All right.

I'll be on my way in about 10 minutes.

All right. Bye.

- Hello, Janice?

Is it okay if I call you Janice?

I feel like we know each other.

I mean, you must know me very well.

You've been reporting on me every day.

Every little detail,

every little indiscretion

in my entire miserable life.

Don't deny it. I've been watching you.

- What are you doing?

Why did you kidnap me?

- Let's see. Let me see.

Why?

- Oh yeah. I'll give you a clue.

I'm a deranged serial killer.

You are a helpless victim.

You figure it out.

- Where are we?

- We're just a little north of the airport,

near the Green River.

I used to work here before they closed it down.

- Look, okay.

Why don't you just untie me.

I can help turn yourself in

and we can get you the help that you need.

Please, don't do this.

- Make your peace. I'll be back in a few minutes.

- Where you going? Get back here.

Kates.

Ah,

Die.