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Hello

Traitors

lover

and

welcome

to

Hello Traitors lover and welcome to the

Hello Traitors lover and welcome to the last

if'

this

series

of

The

the last in this series of The Traitors:

Uncloaked.

I

am

here

Traitors: Uncloaked. I am here reflecting

on

all

of

OUT

finalist

on

reflecting on all of our finalist on that

big

climax.

If

'Nu

haven't

that big climax. If you haven't watched

the

final

I

am

about

to

ruin

watched the final I am about to ruin your

life.

This

if

the

biggest

your life. This is the biggest spoiler

alert

GVGI'.

So

90

and

watch

spoiler alert ever. So go and watch it

and

find

it

on

iPlayer

when

'Nu

it and find it on iPlayer when you

find

US

on

iPlayer

when

'Nu

6P6

-- find us on iPlayer when you are done.

Claudia

Winkleman

can

ta lk

done. Claudia Winkleman can talk about

her

actual

show

SO

she

if

here

about her actual show so she is here to

do

that.

And

WE

reflect

on

that

to do that. And we reflect on that final

round

table

vote.

And

that

man

final round table vote. And that man of

the

moment,

OUT

crowned

Traitor

of the moment, our crowned Traitor Harry

if

here

for

his

first-ever

Harry is here for his first-ever interview.

For

yourself

a

fizzy

interview. For yourself a fizzy rose,

kick

back,

because

this

if

The

rose, kick back, because this is The Traitors:

Uncloaked

grand

final!

Ii

Traitors: Uncloaked grand final! -- pour

yourself.

pour yourself. APPLAUSE

APPLAUSE What

a

finale

and

he

had

finally

What a finale and he had finally exhale

after

holding

her

breath

for

exhale after holding her breath for four

weeks,

it's

9n“!

four weeks, it's only auntie

four weeks, it's only auntie Claude.

four weeks, it's only auntie Claude. Welcome.

You

saY

I

am

allowed

to

Welcome. You say I am allowed to talk

about

i1:

but

I'm

not

sure

we

talk about it but I'm not sure we should.

What

would

'Nu

li ke

to

ta lk

should. What would you like to talk about

instead?

I

made

a

smashing

about instead? I made a smashing omelette

which

I

am

hBPPY

to

ta lk

omelette which I am happy to talk everybody

through.

I1:

made

me

v6 FY

everybody through. It made me very nervous.

I

tamed

to

Y0u_

You

WE FE

nervous. I talked to you. You were asking

me

what

happened.

I

W85,

asking me what happened. I was, like,

I

can't

ta lk

about

it.

We

90

like, I can't talk about it. We go off.

We

do

this

extraordinary

thing

off. We do this extraordinary thing with

OUT

unbelievable

cast

and

with our unbelievable cast and brilliant

crew.

And

the

best

brilliant crew. And the best producers.

And

everybody.

And

we

producers. And everybody. And we make

this

little

thing

and

then

we

make this little thing and then we aren't

allowed

to

ta lk

about

i1:

and

aren't allowed to talk about it and it

just

feels

li ke

this

perfect

it just feels like this perfect object

and

then,

Yeah,

Pe0ple

watch

object and then, yeah, people watch it,

and

i1:

I?

weird.

You

6P6

almost

it, and it is weird. You are almost saying

that

People

watching

it

saying that people watching it spoils

it

for

'Nu?

It's

not

perfect.

spoils it for you? It's not perfect. If

i1:

was

UP

to

me.

Yeah,

we

WE FE

If it was up to me, yeah, we were just

have

a

nice

break.

A

hofiday

just have a nice break. A holiday where

there

6P6

murders

and

where there are murders and banishment

and

things

li ke

that.

banishment and things like that. Yeah.

The

first

series

was

a

smash

Yeah. The first series was a smash hit

SO

the

anticipation

for

this

hit so the anticipation for this series

was

through

the

roof.

Which

series was through the roof. Which was

disgusting.

K-

When

we

did

the

was disgusting. K. When we did the first

One!

which

we

didn't

think

first one, which we didn't think would

do

well.

I

have

a

pair

of

would do well. I have a pair of fingerless

g loves,

a

ceremonial

fingerless gloves, a ceremonial pouch,

I

phoned

n“!

husband

and

I

pouch, I phoned my husband and I said,

it's

all

oven

but

I've

had

a

said, it's all over, but I've had a good

TU“!

and

we

a lwa ys

knew

i1:

would

good run and we always knew it would end

SO

HGVGI'

mind.

When

that

did

end so never mind. When that did well.

I

said

to

the

bosses

at

BBC,

well. I said to the bosses at BBC, like,

let's

just

leave

that.

like, let's just leave that. Because,

like,

we

can't

do

i1:

again.

Because, like, we can't do it again. It's

li ke

that

perfect

first

kiss.

It's like that perfect first kiss. You

a Fe,

like,

let's

not

do

that

You are, like, let's not do that again,

let's

Just".

I

said

let's

again, let's just... I said let's not

do

i1:

again.

Th6Y

said

I10,

we

not do it again. They said no, we have

to

do

it.

I'm

not

just

saying

have to do it. I'm not just saying it

because

I'm

looking

at

all

of

it because I'm looking at all of them,

but

we

had

this

brilliant

cast

them, but we had this brilliant cast who

shared

their

smarts,

their

who shared their smarts, their humour,

their

love

for

each

other.

I

humour, their love for each other. I am

incredibly

protective

of

them

and

am incredibly protective of them and I

would

just

saY

for

anyb0dY

I would just say for anybody watching

i1:

I?

super

ea5Y

to

watch

watching it is super easy to watch and

know

what

Vim

do.

And

i1:

I?

not

and know what you do. And it is not easy

when

Vim

are

if'

the

castle.

easy when you are in the castle. Definitely

not.

It

if

e65y

to

Play

Definitely not. It is easy to play along

with

these

things

at

home.

along with these things at home. Yes,

when

Vim

know...

It's

PauH

Yes, when you know... It's Paul! Yeah,

OK.

It

if

li ke

watching

Yeah, OK. It is like watching Columbo

and

I

kn ow

who

the

Columbo and saying, I know who the murderer

is.

They

show

'Nu

at

the

murderer is. They show you at the beginning,

idiot.

beginning, idiot. CH UCKLES

CHUCKLES You

6P6

emotionally

attached

to

all

You are emotionally attached to all of

the

cast.

I

GIT]!

Who

went

on

the

of the cast. I am! Who went on the biggest

emotional

journey,

do

'Nu

biggest emotional journey, do you think?

Oh,

I

think

everybody

did.

We

think? Oh, I think everybody did. We just

watched

the

final.

The

Pe0ple

just watched the final. The people we

WE FE

if'

the

TOOK“

with,

I

just

we were in the room with, I just adored.

And

i1:

was

Just".

adored. Ancl it was just... Fascinating,

and

come

anyway-

I

was

Fascinating, and come anyway, I was incredibly

proud

of

them.

I

am

still

incredibly proud of them. I am still livid

Sonia

left

SO

early

and

livid Sonia left so early and Aubrey,

SO

I

would

li ke

them

to

take

Aubrey, so I would like them to take part

next

r!

If

that's

all

right?

part next year, if that's all right?

Sonja.

Put

them

if'

at

the

end

SO

-- Sonja. Put them in at the end so they

have

more

chance.

Th6Y

are

they have more chance. They are here!

I

was

fascinated

DY

everybody.

here! I was fascinated by everybody. It

I?

li ke

choosing

favourite

It is like choosing favourite children.

I

adored

all

of

them.

I

children. I adored all of them. I thought

Ross

throwing

a

TOSG

into

thought Ross throwing a rose into his

mother's

grave

was

a

moment

I

his mother's grave was a moment I did

not

foresee

and

I

am

wearing

a

did not foresee and I am wearing a Supremes

T-shirt

because

I

was

Supremes T-shirt because I was obsessed

DY

both

of

them.

Absolutely

obsessed by both of them. Absolutely obsessed.

When

the'!

first

arrived...

obsessed. When they first arrived... I

am

if'

a

TOOK“

upstairs

getting

I am in a room upstairs getting fully

fully oranged

fully oranged by

Pe0ple.

I'm,

like,

fully oranged by people. I'm, like, everywhere,

fully oranged by people. I'm, like, everywhere, back

of

n“!

legs!

I

everywhere, back of my legs! I watched

them

and

EIS

the'!

arrived

I

watched them and as they arrived I thought

there

I?

just

I10

WHY

he

I?

thought there is just no way he is not

going

to

ca ll

her

mum.

He

didn't

not going to call her mum. He didn't and

i1:

was

amazing.

But

it

was

and it was amazing. But it was incredible.

You

thoroughly

incredible. You thoroughly entertained

US

all

OVGI'

again.

entertained us all over again. Thanks

for

another

amazing

series.

Thanks for another amazing series. Let's

eflJl°y

some

of

Your

highlights.

Let's enjoy some of your highlights. Oh,

I10.

Get

if'

the

castle.

Off

Vim

Oh, no. Get in the castle. Off you go.

It's

time

to

OUT

v6 FY

first

go. It's time to our very first banishment.

I

am

going

to

be

honest

banishment. I am going to be honest, this

I?

n“!

favourite

bit.

Will

the'!

this is my favourite bit. Will they catch

a

guilty

Traitor?

Or

banish

an

catch a guilty Traitor? Or banish an innocent

Faithful?

I

knew

it.

So

innocent Faithful? I knew it. So obvious.

At

the

roundtable

there

I?

obvious. At the roundtable there is nowhere

to

hide.

The

green

boat

I?

nowhere to hide. The green boat is now

doing

its

a

fifth

circle.

Diane!

now doing its a fifth circle. Diane! Everybody

will

turn

UP

to

breakfast

Everybody will turn up to breakfast tomorrow.

A

Traitor

cannot

kill

a

tomorrow. A Traitor cannot kill a Traitor.

Another

man?

Just

li ke

the

Traitor. Another man? just like the olden

clays.

I'm

waiting

for

Vim

with

olden clays. I'm waiting for you with mY

twin!

That

was

close!

Dearly

my twin! That was close! Dearly beloved

Players,

we

are

gathered

beloved players, we are gathered here

today

not

just

to

win

gold

but

here today not just to win gold but also

to

saY

fa rewe ll

to

one

of

Y0u_

Does

Does anybody

have

an'!

final

words?

Does anybody have any final words? It's

Does anybody have any final words? It's going

to

9E1:

quite

sticky.

It's going to get quite sticky. APPLAUSE

Now,

ladies

and

gentlemen,

please

Now, ladies and gentlemen, please give

Now, ladies and gentlemen, please give them

a

warm

welcome,

it's

OUT

give them a warm welcome, it's our finalists!

finalists! APPLAUSE

Welcome,

guys.

We

will

be

talking

to

Welcome, guys. We will be talking to Harry

Welcome, guys. We will be talking to Harry very

shortly

but

the

drama

Harry very shortly but the drama started

early

at

that

roundtable

started early at that roundtable with

Evie's

banishment.

Then

there

with Evie's banishment. Then there was

the

small

matter

of

e65y

finally

was the small matter of easy finally finding

out

who

the

traders

W6 ['6

3S

finding out who the traders were as she

was

whisked

away

from

the

she was whisked away from the castle.

Ii

6P6

the

Traitors.

I

have

castle. -- are the Traitors. I have just

been

banished.

I1:

I?

difficult

just been banished. It is difficult for

me.

I

knew

I

was

going

to

be

for me. I knew I was going to be walking

into

a

bunch

of

Pe0ple

who

walking into a bunch of people who would

Put

n“!

name

down.

Throughout

would put my name down. Throughout the

daY

I

realised

the

Ukefihood

of

the clay I realised the likelihood of mY

name

being

UP

there

was

high.

I1:

my name being up there was high. It was

li ke

walking

UP

to

n“!

OW“

was like walking up to my own guillotine.

guillotine. CH UCKLES

CH UCKLES I

think

Andrew

OI'

Rs

could

be

a

I think Andrew orjas could be a Traitor.

Lots

of

People

have

Traitor. Lots of people have scrutinised

them

already.

I

think

scrutinised them already. I think Mollie

could

be

too.

She

could

be

Mollie could be too. She could be one

of

those

stones

WE

have

looked

one of those stones we have looked under.

She

has

90':

through

under. She has got through relatively

unscathed.

If

Harry

has

relatively unscathed. If Harry has managed

to

Set

to

the

v6"!

end

and

managed to get to the very end and has

managed

to

be

a

Traitor

when

he

has managed to be a Traitor when he looks

SO

much

li ke

a

Faithful

I've

looks so much like a Faithful I've just

90':

to

applaud

him

at

this

just got to applaud him at this stage.

I

am

dying

to

find

out

who

stage. I am dying to find out who the

Traitors

6P6.

I

I am

SO

surprised

b)'

Harry

because

I

I am so surprised by Harry because I feel...

I am so surprised by Harry because I feel... I

feel

equal

pa rts

proud,

feel... I feel equal parts proud, equal

pa rts

SO

annoyed

because

I've

equal parts so annoyed because I've just

had

a

conversation

with

him

and

just had a conversation with him and said

he

was

100%

Faithful

OI'

thought

said he was 100% Faithful or thought he

W85,

anyway-

Oh,

rrIY

God.

He

has

he was, anyway. Oh, my God. He has played

such

a

900d

game.

And...

Oh,

played such a good game. And... Oh, mY

God.

And

he

90':

all

of

those

my God. And he got all of those Traitors

out,

3S

well.

Oh,

he

did

SO

Traitors out, as well. Oh, he did so well.

Andrew

I

feel

li ke

has

done

well. Andrew I feel like has done pretty

well

to

Set

to

this

stage

pretty well to get to this stage anyway

because

Andrew

had

a

lot

of

anyway because Andrew had a lot of scrutiny

on

him.

Lots

of

People

W6 ['6

scrutiny on him. Lots of people were looking

at

him.

Diane

was

looking

at

looking at him. Diane was looking at him.

She

went

if'

hard

for

him.

I

him. She went in hard for him. I just

can't

befieve

that.

I

can't

just can't believe that. I can't beUeve

that.

Oh,

rrIY

God.

I

have

had

believe that. Oh, my God. I have had so

ma")!

conversations

with

these

so many conversations with these people

where

we've

been

li ke,

it

if

people where we've been like, it is so

difficult,

the

Traitors,

and

it

so difficult, the Traitors, and it has

been

them!

Wow.

Evie,

Evie, well

done.

Absolutely

Evie, well done. Absolutely fantastic

Evie, well done. Absolutely fantastic game.

First

of

all,

that

fantastic game. First of all, that is

a

great

audition

tape

for

Come

is a great audition tape for Come Dine

With

Me.

Did

'Nu

have

an'!

Dine With Me. Did you have any suspicion

of

Harry

ever'?

I

could

sit

suspicion of Harry ever? I could sit here

and

I

could

be,

like,

I

knew,

here and I could be, like, I knew, of

course,

Yeah,

I

was

keeping

him

of course, yeah, I was keeping him sweet

but

i1:

would

be

a

lie

because

sweet but it would be a lie because I

had

absolutely

I10

idea.

I

had

a

I had absolutely no idea. I had a massive

blind

spot

with

Harry.

I

massive blind spot with Harry. I think

Vim

did

an

amazing

game

and

think you did an amazing game and most

Pe0ple

agree

with

that.

He

did.

most people agree with that. He did. His

shield

deflection

pitted

'Nu

and

His shield deflection pitted you and jasmine

against

each

other.

Was

jasmine against each other. Was there

an'!

thought

amongst

an'!

of

'Nu

there any thought amongst any of you that

ma)!

be

that

whole

shield

thing

that may be that whole shield thing was

a

total

FUSG

and

a

double

b luff?

was a total ruse and a double bluff? I

think

what

happened,

after

me

and

I think what happened, after me and jasmine

went

SO

hard

at

each

other

jasmine went so hard at each other at

that

round

table

I

90':

swollen

UP

at that round table I got swollen up into

the

emotion.

I

managed

to

90

into the emotion. I managed to go through

most

of

the

program me

through most of the program me without

getting

tangled

UP

if'

an'!

without getting tangled up in any drama.

But

that

was

i1:

for

me

and

I

drama. But that was it for me and I spent

that

whole

last

daY

thinking

spent that whole last clay thinking about

how

bad

I

felt.

And

I

wasn't

about how bad I felt. And I wasn't thinking

about

anything

else.

Trying

thinking about anything else. Trying to

convince

Pe0ple

when

Vim

are

if'

to convince people when you are in that

emotional

state

isn't

going

to

that emotional state isn't going to work

and

I

don't

think

there

was

an'!

work and I don't think there was any changing

of

the

tide.

I

thought

I

changing of the tide. I thought I was

a

goner.

You

6P6

doing

yourself

was a goner. You are doing yourself a

bit

of

a

disservice

because

'Nu

a bit of a disservice because you are

0H6

of

the

best

Players

at

are one of the best players at keeping

Your

emotions

if'

check.

keeping your emotions in check. Especially

when

things

W6 ['6

directed

Especially when things were directed at

'Nu

because

'Nu

spoke

logically

at you because you spoke logically and

clearly.

You

weren't

getting

and clearly. You weren't getting upset.

I

think

that

if

Part

of

the

upset. I think that is part of the reason

'Nu

lasted

for

SO

long.

I

reason you lasted for so long. I think

I

agree

with

Vim

but

0|'!

that

think I agree with you but on that clay

I

felt

guilty

because

jasmine

clay I felt guilty because jasmine was

strong

EIS

well.

She

was

was strong as well. She was articulate

at

the

table.

The

thing

articulate at the table. The thing that

upset

me

was

two

ream]

900d

that upset me was two really good players

going

at

each

other

and...

players going at each other and... Unfortunately

there

WE FE

two

other

Unfortunately there were two other players

just

staring

at

US.

Not

players just staring at us. Not saying

anything!

You

suspected

Paul

saying anything! You suspected Paul. A

few

People

did

towards

the

end.

A few people did towards the end. Obviously

there

was

that

moment

at

Obviously there was that moment at the

funeral

where

Paul

was

saying

the funeral where Paul was saying that

Diane

had

told

him

that

Miles

that Diane had told him that Miles was

POSSIBLY

a

Traitor

and

then

he

was possibly a Traitor and then he brought

it

LIP

at

the

roundtable

and

brought it up at the roundtable and you

said

'Nu

didn't

hear

Diane

s8'!

you said you didn't hear Diane say that

at

a ll.

I

had

nothing.

On

that at all. I had nothing. On social

media

'Nu

have

since

said

social media you have since said that

'Nu

did

hear

that.

What

that you did hear that. What happened

was

when

we

WE FE

walking

happened was when we were walking down,

there

was

the

three

of

U5,

down, there was the three of us, Diane

was

saying

i1:

has

to

be

Miles

Diane was saying it has to be Miles if

I

am

dead.

There

WE FE

a

few

times

if I am dead. There were a few times where

Paul

90':

her

to

repeat

i1:

and

where Paul got her to repeat it and emphasise

i1:

and

I

thought...

I

emphasise it and I thought... I already

had

suspicions

0|'!

Paul

after

already had suspicions on Paul after the

dungeon

because

if

Vim

are

going

the dungeon because if you are going to

banish

M69

based

0|'!

that

theory

to banish Meg based on that theory why

won't

we

looking

at

Paul?

I

why won't we looking at Paul? I think

that

wa lk,

that

final

wa lk

to

think that walk, that final walk to the

coffins,

that

ream]

solidified

the coffins, that really solidified it

for

me

because

I

thought

Vim

it for me because I thought, you know,

you've

done

it.

I1:

was

Wm!

know, you've clone it. It was you! When

we

90':

to

the

roundtable

I

When we got to the roundtable I thought

he

would

USE

i1:

to

look

li ke

thought he would use it to look like a

hero

and

I

thought

I

cannot

let

a hero and I thought, I cannot let you

have

it.

I

would

li ke

to

saY

i1:

you have it. I would like to say it was

strategic

but

I

think

i1:

was

was strategic but I think it was actually

based

0|'!

pettiness.

I

actually based on pettiness. I thought

I'm

not

going

to

let

thought, I'm not going to let Diane's

last

words

make

Vim

look

Diane's last words make you look like

a

hero.

Pettiness

if

0H6

WHY

to

like a hero. Pettiness is one way to Play

the

game.

Claudia,

what

did

'Nu

play the game. Claudia, what did you think

of

the

game

Evie

Played?

I

think of the game Evie played? I thought

Vim

Played

absolutely

thought you played absolutely brilliantly.

Also,

everybody

brilliantly. Also, everybody wanted...

Th6Y

would

come

to

Vim

and

wanted... They would come to you and use

Vim

EIS

a

sounding

board

and

Vim

use you as a sounding board and you were

close

with

everybody.

And

Vim

were close with everybody. And you knew.

You

voted

for

Ash

before

knew. You voted for Ash before anybody

else.

You

voted

for

Paul

anybody else. You voted for Paul before

anyb0dY

else.

You

knew.

I

before anybody else. You knew. I also

started

describing

'Nu

3S

the

also started describing you as the Zak

whfibread

because

there

was

a

Zak Whitbread because there was a moment

where

he

W85,

li ke,

I

cannot

moment where he was, like, I cannot stop

thinking...

You

were,

li ke,

OK,

stop thinking... You were, like, OK, I

will

come

a

900d

idea.

Can

'Nu

I will come a good idea. Can you settle

something,

6P6

'Nu

related

to

settle something, are you related to Charlie?

I

am

not.

If

I

was

I

would

Charlie? I am not. If I was I would be

totafly

hBPPY

with

that.

Charlie

be totally happy with that. Charlie is

a

to?

tier

babe,

I

love

Charlie,

is a top tier babe, I love Charlie, but

I

think

i1:

would

be

absolutely

but I think it would be absolutely wild

for

the

producers

to

Put

two

wild for the producers to put two people

who

didn't

know

the'!

WE FE

people who didn't know they were related

On,

EIS

well.

Next

series

it

related on, as well. Next series it might

be

a

whole

family.

Exactly.

We

might be a whole family. Exactly. We need

to

turn

OUT

attention

to

0H6

of

need to turn our attention to one of the

most

dramatic

bits

of

the

the most dramatic bits of the endgame,

the

moment

Andrew

went

for

endgame, the moment Andrew went for Harry.

I

befieve

Harry

has

been

a

great

I believe Harry has been a great Traitor

I believe Harry has been a great Traitor from

the

start.

He

if

Traitor from the start. He is obviously

leading

the

Traitors.

No

obviously leading the Traitors. No coincidence

he

has

known

coincidence he has known step-by-step

what

to

do

throughout

step-by-step what to do throughout the

whole

PFOCGSS.

That

was

kind

of

the whole process. That was kind of random.

Andrew,

absolutely

amazing.

What

an

Andrew, absolutely amazing. What an amazing

Andrew, absolutely amazing. What an amazing game

'Nu

Played.

Delighted

amazing game you played. Delighted to

have

'Nu

on

the

show.

What

W6 ['6

to have you on the show. What were you

thinking

if'

the

endgame?

To

turn

you thinking in the endgame? To turn on

Harry

was

a

big

moment

for

Y0u_

on Harry was a big moment for you. What

made

'Nu

decide

it

to

do

it

What made you decide it to do it then

and

the

WHY

'Nu

went

about

it?

then and the way you went about it? Harry

had

SO

much

influence

OVGF

the

Harry had so much influence over the team.

Nobody

eve I’

suspected

him,

team. Nobody ever suspected him, questioned

him,

not

at

the

questioned him, not at the roundtable.

You've

90':

to

{FY

and

roundtable. You've got to try and Play

a

game.

You've

90':

to

9E1:

play a game. You've got to get enough

Pe0ple.

I1:

I?

a

numbers

game.

enough people. It is a numbers game. You've

90':

to

9E1:

enough

Pe0ple

You've got to get enough people before

Vim

{FY

to

90

for

somebody

before you try to go for somebody otherwise

Vim

cast

doubt

0|'!

otherwise you cast doubt on yourself,

Put

y0Ur

head

0|'!

the

yourself, put your head on the chopping

board.

But

obviously

nobody

chopping board. But obviously nobody was

talking

about

Harry

SO

i1:

was

was talking about Harry so it was difficult

and

I

thought

I

had

difficult and I thought I had nothing

to

lose

at

the

end.

I

went

nothing to lose at the end. I went for

it.

Looking

at

i1:

I

went

a

bit

for it. Looking at it I went a bit late.

Upmost

respect

for

that

QUY

he

late. Upmost respect for that guy he played

an

amazing

game.

He's

a

played an amazing game. He's a brilliant

9W -

I

left

i1:

too

late,

I

brilliant guy. I left it too late, I think.

I

don't

think

'Nu

GVGI'

think. I don't think you ever trusted

him.

The

moment

'Nu

W6 ['6

trusted him. The moment you were recruited

'Nu

went

if'

and

said,

recruited you went in and said, well,

'Nu

guys

6P6

going

to

throw

me

well, you guys are going to throw me under

the

bus.

It

was

a

great

moment

under the bus. It was a great moment because

they

thought

we've

messed

because they thought, we've messed up.

Th6Y

said,

trust

US.

Or

Paul

up. They said, trust us. Or Paul said,

trust

me.

Yeah,

OK!

That's

said, trust me. Yeah, OK! That's going

to

happen.

ls

it

fair

to

s8'!

going to happen. Is it fair to say that

'Nu

W6 ['6

a

remctant

Traitor

to

that you were a reluctant Traitor to start

with,

but

then

'Nu

found

Your

start with, but then you found your feet

and

90':

into

the

swing

of

it?

feet and got into the swing of it? I'm

not

sure.

I

wasn't

the

best

I'm not sure. I wasn't the best Traitor.

I

found

i1:

difficult

to

Traitor. I found it difficult to change

from

a

Faithful

to

a

Traitor.

change from a Faithful to a Traitor. Before

the

game

I

thought

I

could

do

Before the game I thought I could do both,

I10

problem,

but

when

I

had

the

both, no problem, but when I had the choice

I

found

i1:

ream]

hard

and

i1:

choice I found it really hard and it was

ream]

hard

accusing

Pe0ple

of

was really hard accusing people of lying

when

Vim

know

the'!

are

telling

lying when you know they are telling the

truth.

NW

insides

WE FE

turning

the truth. My insides were turning thinking,

Ross,

for

examyfle,

that

thinking, Ross, for example, that one

was

horrendous.

And

Evie

at

the

one was horrendous. And Evie at the end,

I

found

i1:

ready

difficult.

I

end, I found it ready difficult. I think

'Nu

did

Set

into

the

swing

of

think you did get into the swing of it

a

little

bit

because

things

li ke

it a little bit because things like elusive-gate.

Never

I

I would

HGVGI'

saY

elusive.

You

6P6

I would never say elusive. You are thinking

I would never say elusive. You are thinking on

Your

feet.

To

be

able

to

thinking on your feet. To be able to do

that

ql-liCkly_

In

the

breakfast

3S

do that quickly. In the breakfast as well

when

Harry

said

I'd

actually

well when Harry said I'd actually got

the

shield

and,

'Nu

kn ow,

Zack

got the shield and, you know, Zack was

saying

I

must

be

a

Faithful

was saying I must be a Faithful because

I

knew

about

it,

and

'Nu

because I knew about it, and you said,

I

knew

about

it.

Follow

the

said, I knew about it. Follow the herd.

You

6P6

getting

if'

there

and

herd. You are getting in there and you

90':

into

the

swing

of

it.

Harry

you got into the swing of it. Harry kept

calling

me

a

bah'!

Traitor.

He

kept calling me a baby Traitor. He was

teaching

me

well.

Claudia,

what

was teaching me well. Claudia, what did

'Nu

think

of

Andrew?

Lots

Lots of

Pe0ple

said

Vim

WE FE

the

r119

Lots of people said you were the rug because

Lots of people said you were the rug because you

love

being

Faithful.

because you love being Faithful. Ross

didn't

fancy

do

that

but

when

Ross didn't fancy do that but when you're

chosen

to

be

a

Traitor,

Vim

you're chosen to be a Traitor, you go

if'

and

Vim

are

like...

And

0|'!

to

go in and you are like... And on to find

out

—

Paul

Mosley,

it's

right,

find out! Paul Mosley, it's right, you're

us!

Parrie

was

like,

welcome

you're us! Parrie was like, welcome to

the

dark

side.

Th6Y

both

looked

to the dark side. They both looked at

each

other,

and

that's

not

who

at each other, and that's not who you

wanted

to

be,

but

he

did

i1:

well

you wanted to be, but he did it well and

I

loved

i1:

when

Evie

was

sad.

He

and I loved it when Evie was sad. He almost

threw

the

game

away.

I

did

almost threw the game away. I did feel

bad

because

I

knew

she

was

feel bad because I knew she was telling

the

truth.

Taking

away

telling the truth. Taking away somebody's

Opportunity

to

win

money

somebody's opportunity to win money for

the

family.

You

do

feel

a

bit

for the family. You do feel a bit guilty,

it's

still

hard.

What

'Nu

guilty, it's still hard. What you have

preferred

to

stay

Faithful

have preferred to stay Faithful throughout

the

game?

I've

done

the

throughout the game? I've clone the full

experience.

Probably

one

of

the

full experience. Probably one of the only

Pe0ple

who

had

done

everything.

only people who had clone everything. The

challenges

apart

from

the

one

I

The challenges apart from the one I got

locked

if'

a

dungeon.

I

was

a

got locked in a dungeon. I was a Traitor,

Faithful,

cut

to

the

end

Traitor, Faithful, cut to the end game

SO

I've

done

everything.

It's

game so I've clone everything. It's like

going

to

Disney

and

going

to

like going to Disney and going to all

the

rides.

Also

running

the

all the rides. Also running the rides

3S

well.

I

enjoyed

the

whole

rides as well. I enjoyed the whole thing,

I

wouldn't

change

a

thing.

At

thing, I wouldn't change a thing. At the

dinner

ii

not

the

dinner

Pan'!

the dinner -- not the dinner party said

'Nu

felt

li ke

'Nu

HGVGI'

said you felt like you never celebrate

Your

OW“

achievements

cups

celebrate your own achievements cups of

credit,

do

'Nu

feel

'Nu

can

of credit, do you feel you can finally

give

yourself

credit?

You

90

finally give yourself credit? You go the

final

game

of

Traitors,

that's

the final game of Traitors, that's amazing.

You're

making

me

cf'!

again!

amazing. You're making me cry again! I

struggle

for

20

odd

I'm

I struggle for 20 odd years, I'm always

pushing

myself,

for

the

first

always pushing myself, for the first time

if'

a

long

time

I

felt

proud

of

time in a long time I felt proud of where

I

90':

to

come

I

didn't

think

I

where I got to come I didn't think I would

9E1:

that

far.

To

9E1:

EIS

far

EIS

would get that far. To get as far as I

did,

especially

with

that

scrutiny

I did, especially with that scrutiny on

me.

I

am

quite

proud.

Let's

all

on me. I am quite proud. Let's all celebrate

under

an

hour,

round

of

celebrate under an hour, round of applause

for

Andrew.

applause for Andrew. APPLAUSE

APPLAUSE

celebrate

Andrew

HOW.

Still

to

-- celebrate Andrew now. Still to come,

|

Traitor

Harry's

first

come, King Traitor Harry's first interview

about

his

big

Win!

Plus

interview about his big win, plus we'll

be

hearing

Mollie's

reaction

we'll be hearing Mollie's reaction to

that

final

end

game

vote.

But

to that final end game vote. But first,

further

PFOCGSSOI'

has

been

first, further processor has been one

common

reassuring

GSSGHCG

of

the

one common reassuring essence of the roundtable,

full

of

wisdom

and

roundtable, full of wisdom and crucial

insight,

just

li ke

Yoda

crucial insight, just like Yoda except

if

everyone

ignored

Yoda.

It

except if everyone ignored Yoda. It is

the

exclusive

UHSGGH

moment

that

is the exclusive unseen moment that jaz

found

out

Harry

was

a

Traitor.

Mollie

Mollie was

a

Faithful.

Harry

I?

a

Mollie was a Faithful. Harry is a Traitor.

Mollie was a Faithful. Harry is a Traitor. Oh,

n“!

QM“!

I

was

right!

I

Traitor. Oh, my god! I was right! I was

right!

Harry

I?

a

Traitor.

How

was right! Harry is a Traitor. How many

Traitors

qUiz

might

lost

count.

many Traitors quiz might lost count. Paul

Andrew

and

Harry,

four

Paul, Andrew and Harry, four Traitors.

What

do

I

9E1:

for

that?

Traitors. What do I get for that? Could

I

take

that

Tiger

table

home

Could I take that Tiger table home with

me

EIS

a

gift?

That

has

just

with me as a gift? That has just made

me

feel

SO

much

better,

and

made me feel so much better, and absolutely

OVGF

the

MOO“.

Harry

was

absolutely over the moon. Harry was a

Traitor.

Oh,

n“!

clays.

Harry

has

a Traitor. Oh, my clays. Harry has got

away

with

it.

That

I?

Incredible

got away with it. That is incredible tekkers.

tekkers. APPLAUSE

APPLAUSE Listen

to

that.

Listen to that. Now,

Listen to that. Now, sorry

'Nu

Listen to that. Now, sorry you couldn't

Listen to that. Now, sorry you couldn't take

the

tip

OI'

away

but

WE

couldn't take the tip or away but we decided

to

make

LIP

a

little

version.

decided to make up a little version. Yes!

I'm

going

to

leave

it

here.

Yes! I'm going to leave it here. Nice

one.

How

does

it

feel

to

have

Nice one. How does it feel to have had

the

nation

behind

'Nu

for

the

had the nation behind you for the whole

week?

To

be

honest

Vim

just

whole week? To be honest, you just don't

expect

it.

I

don't

EVE“

have

don't expect it. I don't even have Twitter,

I

was

getting

screenshots

Twitter, I was getting screenshots of

Pe0ple

sending

me

tweets

and

I

of people sending me tweets and I was

like,

what?

Koyes

Wagatha

was like, what? Koyes Wagatha Christie?

I

had

to

9°0gle

who

Christie? I had to Google who Wagatha

Christie

is.

And

I

saw

this

Wagatha Christie is. And I saw this woman

who

sold

ii

Salt

6O

detective

woman who sold -- Salt 60 detective cases

and

I

thought

oh,

n“!

God.

To

cases and I thought, oh, my God. To be

honest

it's

been

amazing.

People

be honest, it's been amazing. People have

been

messaging

me.

like,

Vim

have been messaging me, like, you need

to

Win!

Vim

need

to

9E1:

Harry.

need to win, you need to get Harry. I

thought

Vim

know

what,

I

do

need

I thought, you know what, I do need to

9E1:

more,

but

i1:

was...

When

to get more, but it was... When you're

if'

the

game,

Vim

just

don't

you're in the game, you just don't know,

do

Wu?

You

don't

know

if

Vim

know, do you? You don't know if you are

barking

UP

the

right

tree.

You

are barking up the right tree. You can

0|'!

trust

certain

Pe0ple.

So

can on trust certain people. So getting

all

the

responses

has

been

getting all the responses has been incredible,

absolutely

incredible.

Incredible, absolutely incredible. From

a

viewing

perspective

WE

can

From a viewing perspective we can see

'Nu

putting

it

all

together,

see you putting it all together, working

it

out,

getting

it

right.

working it out, getting it right. But

it's

that

last

hurdle

that

'Nu

But it's that last hurdle that you need

to

Set

OVGI'

when

you're

if'

need to get over when you're in there

to

actually

voice

that

can

Set

there to actually voice that can get it

out

there.

That's

obviously

the

it out there. That's obviously the hardest

bit

because

'Nu

don't

kn ow

hardest bit because you don't know if

you're

right.

I

think

with

this

if you're right. I think with this type

of

game,

it's

a lwa ys

about

type of game, it's always about getting

the

balance

right.

And

the

getting the balance right. And the end

90a[

I?

to

9E1:

EIS

far

EIS

end goal is to get as far as possible,

SO

when

you're

trying

to

possible, so when you're trying to get

EIS

far

EIS

possible,

everything

get as far as possible, everything changes.

In

a

split

second.

Claudia

changes. In a split second. Claudia could

come

and

giVe

US

a

big

massive

could come and give us a big massive bombshell,

the

resuk

shield

OI'

bombshell, the result shield or someone

will

ta lk,

at

every

single

someone will talk, at every single opportunity

Vim

have

to

find

ii

fine

opportunity you have to find -- fine tune

for

Vim

need

to

APPLY

the

tune for you need to apply the balance.

And

I

thought

that

being

a

balance. Ancl I thought that being a libre

I

would

be

900d

at

balancing.

libre I would be good at balancing. I

tried,

but

every

little

moment,

I?

I tried, but every little moment, is not

about

being

too

loud

OI'

acquired

not about being too loud or acquired by

just

getting

the

balance

right

at

by just getting the balance right at every

single

Opportunity.

I

was

every single opportunity. I was trying

n“!

best.

NW

whole

game

Plan

trying my best. My whole game plan was

to

90

if'

there

and

be

a

Traitor.

was to go in there and be a Traitor. Ancl

then,

I

was

li ke

this,

90

On,

Ancl then, I was like this, go on, touch

eight!

She

went

round.

Didn't

touch eight! She went round. Didn't do

i1:

again.

ls

i1:

bad

that

I

Speak?

do it again. Is it bad that I speak? jaz

ream]

did

want

to

be

a

Traitor

jaz really did want to be a Traitor but

also,

Vim

told

me

about

what

but also, you told me about what happened

to

Y0u_

We

had

a

ream]

happened to you. We had a really long

chat

and

I

knew

that

the

long chat and I knew that the Faithful

need

to

do.

If

that's

not

Faithful need to do. If that's not too

weird

I

think

to

say.

But

none

too weird I think to say. But none of

US

could

have

predicted

how

of us could have predicted how quickly

Vim

90':

it.

When

Vim

started

quickly you got it. When you started saying,

I

just

90':

a

feeling

about

saying, I just got a feeling about Paul

everybody

else

was

like,

oh,

Paul, everybody else was like, oh, poor!

Ii

Paul

He

would

die

for

the

poor! -- Paul. He would die for the Faithful

X-Men

Paul

Played

i1:

Faithful X-Men Paul played it brilliantly.

But

everyone

was

like,

brilliantly. But everyone was like, whatever

happens,

Paul

I?

0|'!

OUT

whatever happens, Paul is on our side

and

Vim

WE FE

the

on“!

one

who

side and you were the only one who was

going...

And

I

was

like...

But

was going... And I was like... But even

when

Paul

was

banished,

he

went

even when Paul was banished, he went UP

to

Harry

and

went,

that

was

'Jinn!

up to Harry and went, that was you'. And

again,

just

come

back,

Vim

have

Ancl again, just come back, you have to

adapt

i1:

SO

quickly

When

Claudia

to adapt it so quickly. When Claudia chose

me

EIS

a

Faithful

i1:

was

react

chose me as a Faithful it was react quickly

to

that

change.

Looking

quickly to that change. Looking back,

I

was

like,

I

wish

she

chose

back, I was like, I wish she chose me

EIS

a

Traitor,

what

are

Vim

doing?

me as a Traitor, what are you doing? But

wanted

to

be

a

Traitor

but

I

But wanted to be a Traitor but I needed

to

be

a

Faithful.

So

thank

needed to be a Faithful. So thank you,

Claudia.

you, Claudia. APPLAUSE

APPLAUSE You

6P6

amazing,

absolutely

amazing.

You are amazing, absolutely amazing. I'm

SO

sorry

I

spoke

again

X-Men

I'm

I'm so sorry I spoke again X-Men I'm not

going

to

5110p

Vim

Speaking!

not going to stop you speaking! There

have

been

SO

mam].

I

hope

Vim

There have been so many, I hope you have

seen

what

i1:

means

if'

have seen what it means in everything

but

n“!

favourite

One!

everything but my favourite one, Cathy

Burke

posted

it,

i1:

was

the

Cathy Burke posted it, it was the sixth

sense,

0.6

seconds,

J62

was

sixth sense, 0.6 seconds, jaz was like,

Bruce

Willis

EIS

a

ghost.

It

like, Bruce Willis as a ghost. It was

a

fantastic

gamer

well

done.

In

was a fantastic game, well done. In our

nail-biting

finale,

WE

also

saw

our nail-biting finale, we also saw the

outcome

of

the

whole

game

rest

the outcome of the whole game rest on

the

shoulders

of

Mollie.

Let's

on the shoulders of Mollie. Let's remind

ourselves

of

a

big

decision.

remind ourselves of a big decision.

her

big

decision.

It

It is

super

tough.

I

want

to

ask

It is super tough. I want to ask included,

It is super tough. I want to ask included, what

was

it

li ke

if'

that

included, what was it like in that room

at

the

moment?

Ii

ask

Claudia.

room at the moment? -- ask Claudia. Extraordinary.

I'm

not

exaggerating

Extraordinary. I'm not exaggerating when

I

saY

it's

a

privilege

to

be

when I say it's a privilege to be there,

because

the'!

WE FE

amazing

there, because they were amazing players

who

are

getting

to

one

goal.

players who are getting to one goal, and

all

four

if'

the

endgame

just

and all four in the endgame just sort

of

while

standing

0|'!

the

J62

sort of while standing on the jaz knew

everything,

Andrew

went

for

i1:

knew everything, Andrew went for it but

had

been

everybody's

rock,

and

but had been everybody's rock, and Mollie

all

of

US

who

stands

°PPOsite

Mollie all of us who stands opposite somebody,

the'!

become

ream]

close,

somebody, they become really close, like

brother

and

sister,

the'!

WE FE

like brother and sister, they were together

all

the

time

and

she

wrote

together all the time and she wrote his

name

down

and

then

looked

at

him

his name down and then looked at him and

couldn't

do

it.

So

Mollie

has

and couldn't do it. So Mollie has all

of

U5,

just

because,

if'

the

end

all of us, just because, in the end I

know

this

I?

a

game

but

I'm

just

I know this is a game but I'm just not

doing

i1:

to

Y0u_

Mollie

makes

I?

not doing it to you. Mollie makes is all

slightly

wobbly

because

we

love

all slightly wobbly because we love you,

not

because

of

what

happened

you, not because of what happened but

there

was

a

reason

Vim

with

but there was a reason you with their

till

the

end...

ii

'Nu

W6 ['6

their till the end... -- you were there.

That

if

the

first

point.

-2

there. That is the first point. .2 is

because

the

WHY

he

tackled

the

is because the way he tackled the missions,

the

WHY

Vim

are

EIS

a

missions, the way you are as a human,

Vim

are

loved.

You

WE FE

loved

human, you are loved. You were loved by

the

cast,

nobody,

everyone

was

by the cast, nobody, everyone was like,

we

are

sticking

with

Mollie.

like, we are sticking with Mollie. So

stunning

there

at

the

end,

i1:

was

So stunning there at the end, it was something.

However

tense

that

woman

something. However tense that woman was,

I

don't

want

to

dwell

on

it

was, I don't want to dwell on it forever,

I

want

to

celebrate

her

forever, I want to celebrate her bill

did

to

Set

to

the

final.

You

bill did to get to the final. You got

Andrew

out,

'Nu

nearly

90':

Harry

got Andrew out, you nearly got Harry out.

That

WES

the

first

moment

that

out. That was the first moment that I

g0':

from

Andrew.

I

think

326?

down

I got from Andrew. I think deep down I

Probably

knew.

But

I

jUst

couldn't

I probably knew. But I just couldn't do

it.

So,

yeah.

It's

a

tough

0H6

do it. So, yeah. It's a tough one but

it

if

what

it

is.

We

should

s8'!

but it is what it is. We should say as

W6 [L

things

between

'Nu

and

as well, things between you and Harry

6P6

fine.

I

still

think

he

I?

Harry are fine. I still think he is amazing.

Always

well.

But

look

who

amazing. Always well. But look who give

him

and

that

0H6

episode

Per

give him and that one episode per usen

if

'Nu

6P6

a

Traitor

and

HGVGI'

user, if you are a Traitor and never speaking

to

'Nu

again.

If

that

was

speaking to you again. If that was me

I

would

have

crumbled

me I would have crumbled straightaway.

I

know!

That

was

n“!

straightaway. I know! That was my favourite

bit,

when

Harry

said

to

favourite bit, when Harry said to you,

to

be

honest

if

i1:

I?

Wu,

I

you, to be honest, if it is you, I would

Probably

saY

fair

Play

and

Vim

would probably say fair play and you went,

I

wouldn't.

I

think

I

SEIW

went, I wouldn't. I think I saw instead,

to

be

honest

rnY

mum

I?

Instead, to be honest, my mum is going

to

kill

me

for

that.

But

I

going to kill me for that. But I think

he

Played

Ell]

amazing

game.

You

think he played an amazing game. You have

to

have

Your

moment

and

I

think

have to have your moment and I think it's

El

massive

shock,

going

from

it's a massive shock, going from thinking

'Nu

have

jUst

WOFI

to

be

thinking you have just won to be like,

Your

best

mate

might

actually

like, your best mate might actually be

El

Traitor.

Did

'Nu

GVGI'

wonder

be a Traitor. Did you ever wonder why

'Nu

6P6

not

murdered?

He

was

a

why you are not murdered? He was a trusted

if'

there,

I

don't

think

'Nu

trusted in there, I don't think you ever

to

be

banished.

Just

happy

to

ever to be banished. just happy to be

there.

I

would

jUst

eHjOY

myself.

be there. I would just enjoy myself. I

loved

the

experience,

loved

the

I loved the experience, loved the missions.

We

were

like

El

little

missions. We were like a little family.

Whatever

reason

it

W65,

I'm

family. Whatever reason it was, I'm going

to

take

it.

It'll

really

hard

going to take it. It'll really hard to

find

El

balance

of,

like,

going

if'

to find a balance of, like, going in with

close

friends,

'Nu

can

kind

of

with close friends, you can kind of look

at

everyone,

especially

when

look at everyone, especially when you

get

down

to

the

five,

'Nu

are

you get down to the five, you are all

SO

close,

SO

it

could

be

am]

of

all so close, so it could be any of them.

I

think

'Nu

rea lly

g few

if'

them. I think you really grew in confidence

throughout

the

whole

confidence throughout the whole series.

Definitely.

The

last

series. Definitely. The last episode,

that

mission

was

episode, that mission was incredible.

Did

'Nu

feel

li ke

'Nu

incredible. Did you feel like you are

growing?

Definitely.

And

Diane

are growing? Definitely. And Diane helped

confidence

SO

much,

BS

she

helped confidence so much, as she was

like,

'Nu

S10

if'

there

and

tell

was like, you go in there and tell them

what

'Nu

think,

'Nu

talk

to

them what you think, you talk to that

roundtable

X-Men

when

she

left

that roundtable X-Men when she left I

WES

gutted.

She

definitely

changed

I was gutted. She definitely changed mY

game.

I

think

'Nu

have

rea lly

my game. I think you have really blazed

a

trail

on

the

show.

One

of

blazed a trail on the show. One of the

biggest

shows

if'

the

country,

the biggest shows in the country, that's

important

to

'Nu

to

Set

out

that's important to you to get out and

ta lk

about

that?

Massively.

The

and talk about that? Massively. The final

dinner

Party

WES

El

massive

final dinner party was a massive moment.

Response

from

that

means

the

moment. Response from that means the world

to

me.

Even

if

when

I'm

happy

world to me. Even if when I'm happy I

have

that

moment

and

I

think

it

I have that moment and I think it has

helped

El

lot

of

People.

VBTY

has helped a lot of people. Very happy

with

that.

happy with that. APPLAUSE

APPLAUSE Well

done,

Mollie,

'Nu

W6 ['6

a

Well done., Mollie, you were a fantastic

pair

and

a

worthy

fantastic pair and a worthy finalist,

'Nu

absolutely

knocked

it

finalist, you absolutely knocked it out

of

the

park.

out of the park. And

HOW

the

time

has

come

to

Set

all

And now the time has come to get all the

reactions

from

OUT

winner.

It

the reactions from our winner. It was

a

Traitor

from

the

first

leg

of

was a Traitor from the first leg of his

lips

on

dflY

0H6.

Here

if

the

his lips on day one. Here is the moment

that

Harry

completed

the

moment that Harry completed the game.

Harry,

Vim

did

it.

He

Played

game. Harry, you did it. He played the

game

with

y0Ur

life.

How

are

Vim

the game with your life. How are you feeling?

NW

legs

WE FE

shaking.

Oh,

feeling? My legs were shaking. Oh, my...

I

just

WOT]

95

grand.

22

yea rs

my... I just won 95 grand. 22 years old.

You've

defeated

everyone.

We ll

old. You've defeated everyone. Well clone.

Are

Vim

all

right?

I

clone. Are you all right? I underestimated

this

massively.

Those

underestimated this massively. Those 22

amazing

Pe0ple

and

from

the

off

22 amazing people and from the off I've

been

a

Traitor.

I've

had

enough

I've been a Traitor. I've had enough of

being

naughty

and

being

bad

of being naughty and being bad because

that

was

next

level.

Arm

of

because that was next level. Arm of the

best

Traitor

if'

the

world!

And

And our

champion

if

here!

Welcome,

Harry.

Thank

Vim

for

having

Welcome, Harry. Thank you for having me.

Welcome, Harry. Thank you for having me. Absolutely

amazing.

What

an

me. Absolutely amazing. What an incredible

game.

I

want

to

take

'Nu

incredible game. I want to take you right

to

the

end

if

that's

OK.

What

right to the end if that's OK. What was

that

like?

Straight

if'

the

Ace?

was that like? Straight in the deep end.

We

will

move

to

shallow

waters

end. We will move to shallow waters afterwards.

What

was

it

li ke

with

afterwards. What was it like with Mollie?

When

Vim

are

if'

there

Vim

Mollie? When you are in there you think

Vim

are

having

a

blast

and

Vim

think you are having a blast and you are

having

a

game.

Especially

when

are having a game. Especially when you

are

a

Traitor

thinking

Vim

can

you are a Traitor thinking you can be

naughty

and

9E1:

away

with

i1:

but

be naughty and get away with it but when

i1:

comes

to

making

genuine

when it comes to making genuine connections,

I

befieve

I

have

that

connections, I believe I have that with

all

of

the

cast.

We

WE FE

if'

with all of the cast. We were in there

for

however

long

but

i1:

felt

there for however long but it felt like

we

WE FE

there

for

yea rs

and

we

like we were there for years and we lived

with

each

other

and

we

had

lived with each other and we had sort

of

known

each

other

SO

when

i1:

sort of known each other so when it came

to

the

end

and

I

sort

of

wanted

came to the end and I sort of wanted to

saY

I

was

a

Faithful

SO

bad

just

to say I was a Faithful so bad just to

make

Mollie

hBPPY

but

I

couldn't.

to make Mollie happy but I couldn't. I

was

torn.

I1:

was

the

weirdest

I was torn. It was the weirdest feeling

ever.

I

can't

EVE“

explain

feeling ever. I can't even explain it.

Honestly.

Can

WE

s8'!

officially,

it. Honestly. Can we say officially, for

the

viewer,

'Nu

6P6

both

for the viewer, you are both friends.

We

are.

I

want

to

ta lk

friends. We are. I want to talk about

ML.

We re

'Nu

aware

of

how

'Nu

aboutjaz. Were you aware of how you he

Was?

He

was

a

dangerous

Player

he was? He was a dangerous player and

'Nu

GVGH

said

if'

the

final.

and you even said in the final. 100%.

I

overlooked

J62.

Watching

i1:

100%. I overlookedjaz. Watching it back

has

been

the

best

ever.

I

lived

back has been the best ever. I lived mY

experience.

I1:

has

been

that

well

my experience. It has been that well put

together

that

I

was

watching

i1:

put together that I was watching it on

the

edge

of

n“!

seat

and

I

wanted

on the edge of my seat and I wanted to

know

what

might

happen.

I

was

to know what might happen. I was nervous

for

myself.

I

thought

J62

nervous for myself. I thoughtjaz was

going

to

9E1:

me

out.

And

I

was going to get me out. And I thought

I'm

gone,

J62

has

figured

thought, I'm gone, jaz has figured it

out.

But,

Yeah,

he

did

SO

well

it out. But, yeah, he did so well to,

like,

Play

his

role

EIS

a

to, like, play his role as a Faithful

and

i1:

was

just

amazing.

Faithful and it was just amazing. When

'Nu

W6 ['6

watching

it

but

did

When you were watching it but did you

feel

less

SGCLI re

Austin

8100%.

you feel less secure Austin 8100%. MY

legs

W6 ['6

shaking.

I

was

on

the

My legs were shaking. I was on the edge

of

seat.

Ii

did

'Nu

feel

less

edge of seat. -- did you feel less secure?

I

was

SO

involved

if'

the

secure? I was so involved in the game

that

all

I

saw

was

n“!

Plan.

Ii

game that all I saw was my plan. -- 100%,

n“!

legs

WE FE

shaking.

How

I

100%, my legs were shaking. Howl wanted

n“!

going

to

Sq

I

befieved

if'

wanted my going to go, I believed in it

100%.

Watching

i1:

back

I

thought

it 100%. Watching it back I thought, wow,

I

90':

SO

lucky

here,

there,

wow, I got so lucky here, there, everywhere.

I

was

blessed

to

win

and

everywhere. I was blessed to win and I

90':

SO

lucky

I

did.

why

do

'Nu

I got so lucky I did. Why do you think

SO

few

of

the

Faithful

didn't

think so few of the Faithful didn't suspect

'Nu?

I

honestly

don't

know.

suspect you? I honestly don't know. It's

that

babY

face.

That's

it.

With

It's that baby face. That's it. With a

cheeky

smile,

I

think.

Honestly,

a cheeky smile, I think. Honestly, like

I

said,

when

I

went

there

I

was

like I said, when I went there I was going

to

be

an

open

book

either

way.

going to be an open book either way. I

on“!

had

to

tell

one

lie.

One

I only had to tell one lie. One little

white

lie

which

nearly

ruined

little white lie which nearly ruined everybody's

life

but

i1:

W85,

like,

a

everybody's life but it was, like, a game.

For

me

i1:

W85,

like,

all

I

game. For me it was, like, alll have

to

do

I?

be

myself,

100%,

daY

have to do is be myself, 100%, clay to

day,

I

want

to

treat

everybody

to clay, I want to treat everybody how

I

would

li ke

to

be

treated,

EIS

how I would like to be treated, as nice

EIS

I

can,

li ke

a

gentleman,

to

nice as I can, like a gentleman, to everyone.

I

was

just

being

myself

everyone. I was just being myself basically

and

I

think

I'm

quite

basically and I think I'm quite lucky

because

I've

come

GCFOSS

EIS

lucky because I've come across as quite

a

trustworthy

person

anyway

SO

quite a trustworthy person anyway so I

just

90':

v6 FY

lucky.

Do

'Nu

think

I just got very lucky. Do you think that

will

change

HOW?

I

hope

not.

I

that will change now? I hope not. I don't

think

n“!

mum

OI'

n“!

other

half

don't think my mum or my other half is

eve I’

going

to

trust

me

again.

Is ever going to trust me again. Massive

red

flags.

How

well

I

sort

Massive red flags. How well I sort of

did

if'

the

end,

but,

yeah.

So

of did in the end, but, yeah. So many

amazing

Plays

'Nu

did

if'

the

many amazing plays you did in the series.

I'm

thinking

of

the

moment

series. I'm thinking of the moment when

'Nu

whispered

to

Zack

about

when you whispered to Zack about Paul

and

Myles

shouting

at

each

Paul and Myles shouting at each other

I

think

that

if

to

other saying, I think that is to Traitor

if

going

at

each

other

and

Traitor is going at each other and the

shield

ploy.

Did

'Nu

have

a

the shield ploy. Did you have a favourite

thing

dufing

the

show?

I1:

favourite thing during the show? It was

hard.

The

shield

Ploy

was

was hard. The shield ploy was amazing.

Zack

especially.

I1:

was

SO

amazing. Zack especially. It was so funny

because

at

the

start...

I

funny because at the start... I found

i1:

ream]

hard

to

9E1:

0|'!

with

found it really hard to get on with Zack

but

then

I

started

to

realise

Zack but then I started to realise because,

like,

we

had

SO

mam].

like,

because, like, we had so many, like, he

was

such

a

strong

personality

at

he was such a strong personality at the

same

time.

Then

we

sort

of

the same time. Then we sort of clashed

at

the

beginning

but

when

i1:

clashed at the beginning but when it was,

like,

oh

n“!

90sh,

when

we

work

was, like, oh my gosh, when we work together

I?

amazing.

When

i1:

came

to

together is amazing. When it came to situations

li ke

that

I

could

sorta

situations like that I could sorta feed

him

a

little

bit

of

information

feed him a little bit of information and

he

just

goes,

Yes,

Bang.

and he just goes, yes, Bang. LAUGHTER

LAUGHTER He

will

do

the

dirty

work

for

me.

He

He will do the dirty work for me. He was

amazing.

That

worked.

I1:

was

was amazing. That worked. It was perfect.

But

then

I

think

the

shield

perfect. But then I think the shield Play

was

just

like,

i1:

brought

SO

play was just, like, it brought so much

confusion

because

i1:

was

SO

much confusion because it was so late

0|'!

If'

the

game

EIS

well.

late on in the game as well. Everybody

there

can

vouch

for

this,

Everybody there can vouch for this, it

was

mentally

draining.

We

WE FE

SO

it was mentally draining. We were so tired.

I

ream]

thought

I

might

tired. I really thought, I might just

tell

everyone

I'm

a

Traitor

just tell everyone I'm a Traitor because

I

was

SO

tired.

Everybody

because I was so tired. Everybody was

knackered.

Bringing

that

if'

at

was knackered. Bringing that in at the

end

was

confusing

for

everyone

the end was confusing for everyone so

i1:

W85,

like,

the

double

bluff

so it was, like, the double bluff and

i1:

worked

perfectly.

It

was

a

and it worked perfectly. It was a work

of

pure

genius.

It

was

work of pure genius. It was fantastic.

I

want

to

ta lk

about

'Nu

fantastic. I want to talk about you and

Paul

3S

a

pair

of

Traitors.

and Paul as a pair of Traitors. Claudia,

'Nu

selected

them,

what

Claudia, you selected them, what made

them

Your

Traitors

to

select?

I

made them your Traitors to select? I could

not

not

select

Paul

He

could not not select Paul. He described

himself

EIS

competitive,

described himself as competitive, cruel,

Traitor,

SO

I

W85,

like,

OK,

cruel, Traitor, so I was, like, OK, you

9E1:

it.

I

don't

USE

DY

myself.

I

you get it. I don't use by myself. I choose

with

brilliant

producers.

I1:

choose with brilliant producers. It just".

Those

conversations

I

have

just... Those conversations I have they

are

much

longer

than

Vim

see

0|'!

they are much longer than you see on screen

but

the'!

are

persuasive.

I

screen but they are persuasive. I really,

ream]

wanted

to

make

Diane

really, really wanted to make Diane a

Traitor.

I

can

saY

that

out

loud.

a Traitor. I can say that out loud. I

was

lite ra lly,

I

know

Vim

are

if'

I was literally, I know you are in here

with

y0Ur

SO“

but

Vim

can

do

here with your son but you can do this.

Diane

90':

the

giggles

li ke

this. Diane got the giggles like I've

HGVGI'

seen

before.

We

WE FE

both

I've never seen before. We were both rolling

around

0|'!

the

floor,

weeping

rolling around on the floor, weeping with

laughter,

she

W85,

like,

can

with laughter, she was, like, can you

imagine

me

a

Traitor!

I

W85,

you imagine me a Traitor! I was, like,

all

right,

all

right.

Harry

like, all right, all right. Harry really

wanted.

Ash

ream]

wanted.

really wanted. Ash really wanted. Lots

of

Pe0ple.

Anyway,

we

thought

Lots of people. Anyway, we thought we

picked

well.

You

picked

V6 FY,

we picked well. You picked very, very

well.

I

want

to

ta lk

about

Your

very well. I want to talk about your relationship

with

Paul

3S

Traitors.

relationship with Paul as Traitors. Paul

was

vffitty

SUFG

he

was

the

Paul was pretty sure he was the leader

of

the

Traitors

and

'Nu

W6 ['6

leader of the Traitors and you were following

along.

Did

'Nu

GVGI'

think

following along. Did you ever think that

Paul

was

the

leader

OI'

where

that Paul was the leader or where you...

100%

not.

Always

amazing.

The

you... 100% not. Always amazing. The best

thing

was

we

cf toked

at

the

best thing was we clicked at the start

anyway-

Like

I

have

a

best

start anyway. Like I have a best mate

I

was

if'

school

with.

I

was

mate I was in school with. I was never

naughty

at

school

but

I

was

never naughty at school but I was just

cheeky.

If

I

was

eve I’

if'

just cheeky. If I was ever in trouble

i1:

was

HGVGI'

me

alone

i1:

was

trouble it was never me alone it was always

me

and

n“!

best

mate.

So

when

always me and my best mate. So when I

was

if'

the

castle

i1:

was

li ke

the

I was in the castle it was like the exact

same

thing.

I

am

getting

if'

exact same thing. I am getting in trouble

with

a

best

friend

sort

of

trouble with a best friend sort of thing.

Being

able

to

do

i1:

together,

thing. Being able to do it together, it

made

me

feel

better

about

myself.

It made me feel better about myself. Him

just

being

the

leader,

I

think

Him just being the leader, I think we

sort

of

like...

He

loved

i1:

from

we sort of like... He loved it from the

off.

He

said

that

we

sort

of

did

the off. He said that we sort of did a

switcheroo

where

I

was

finding

i1:

a switcheroo where I was finding it hard

because

I

was

trying

to

be

n“!

hard because I was trying to be my nice

self

and

having

to

lie

to

nice self and having to lie to people

I've

just

met.

Imagine

making

people I've just met. Imagine making a

connection

with

somebody

where

Vim

a connection with somebody where you are

lying

to

them

from

the

start.

are lying to them from the start. It'll

HGVGI'

work

out.

Or

Vim

worry

It'll never work out. Or you worry it

won't.

But

he

just

loved

the

it won't. But he just loved the role.

I

carried

that

0|'!

EIS

he

role. I carried that on as he started

fading

and

i1:

was

just

started fading and it was just, like,

we

would

li ke

two

Peas

if'

an

like, we would like two peas in an evil

NIL

A

rotten

NIL

Me

and

Paul

evil pod. A rotten pod. Me and Paul. You

both

if'

Your

rotten

P0d_

That

if

You both in your rotten pod. That is all

YOU f5,

Harry,

WE

will

Set

that

all yours, Harry, we will get that changed

into

notes.

What

6P6

'Nu

changed into notes. What are you going

to

do

with

all

of

that

money?

going to do with all of that money? I

cannot

EVE“

befieve

i1:

HOW.

23

I cannot even believe it now. 23 years

old.

That

much

money.

I

can't

years old. That much money. I can't even

explain

what

I

am

going

to

do

even explain what I am going to do with

it.

I've

a lwa ys

said

that

money

with it. I've always said that money never

makes

me

hHPPY-

I've

HGVGI'

never makes me happy. I've never needed

it.

As

long

EIS

I

have

a

roof

needed it. As long as I have a roof over

n“!

head,

food,

water,

n“!

over my head, food, water, my family,

n“!

other

half

with

me.

family, my other half with me, that's

all

I

need.

I

will

be

just

EIS

that's all I need. I will be just as happy-

That

money

I?

going

to

treat

happy. That money is going to treat them.

Everything

n“!

mum

and

clad

have

them. Everything my mum and clad have done

for

me

and

n“!

siblings.

To

be

clone for me and my siblings. To be able

to

giVe

them

something

the'!

able to give them something they want

if'

return

iS,

like,

the

best

want in return is, like, the best thing

ever.

You

did

absolutely

thing ever. You did absolutely amazingly.

That

if

a

v6"!

emotional

amazingly. That is a very emotional speech.

None

of

US

befieve

it.

speech. None of us believe it. LAUGHTER

LAUGHTER Harry,

3S

Claudia

said,

'Nu

Played

Harry, as Claudia said, you played the

game

of

Your

life.

In

fact

'Nu

the game of your life. In fact you all

did.

It's

been

an

absolutely

all did. It's been an absolutely incredible

series.

Thanks

for

incredible series. Thanks for entertaining

the

nation

and

entertaining the nation and providing

some

much-needed

escapism

providing some much-needed escapism in

drab

January,

The

chat

continues

in drab January. The chat continues with

all

of

OUT

finalists

and

with all of our finalists and Claudia

because

WE

have

SO

much

more

Claudia because we have so much more to

ask

them

HOW

they

6P6

reunited

SO

to ask them now they are reunited so we

continue

with

OUT

bonus

audio

we continue with our bonus audio episode

which

has

just

arrived

if'

episode which has just arrived in your

BBC

sounds

at.

Listen

to

more

your BBC sounds at. Listen to more revelations

from

the

finalists.

Big

revelations from the finalists. Big thanks

to

OUT

finalists

and,

of

thanks to our finalists and, of course,

Claude!

If

If you

think

'Nu

have

what

it

takes

If you think you have what it takes to

If you think you have what it takes to compete

if'

the

Traitors,

casting

to compete in the Traitors, casting for

series

three

if

HOW

open

but

not

for series three is now open but not for

long.

In

fact

the

closing

date

for long. In fact the closing date is

the

11th

of

February.

If

'Nu

want

is the 11th of February. If you want to

APPLY

90

to

the

website...

That

That is

it.

22

Players,

six

That is it. 22 players, six Traitors,

That is it. 22 players, six Traitors, 12

missions,

two

Traitors, 12 missions, two relatives,

0H6

funeral,

and

0H6

relatives, one funeral, and one chafice

of

fizzy

TOWS.

Series

two

chalice of fizzy rows. Series two has

been

an

absolute

blast

but

don't

has been an absolute blast but don't worry

about

Traitors

withdrawal

worry about Traitors withdrawal because

series

two

Australia

if

HOW

because series two Australia is now available

if'

its

entirety

on

BBC

available in its entirety on BBC iPlayer.

Ii

fizzy

FOSG.

Thank

'Nu

SO

iPlayer. -- fizzy rose. Thank you so much

for

watching

Springwatch.

Now

much for watching Springwatch. Now you

can

tell

Your

friends

that

'Nu

you can tell your friends that you know

what

a

visualised

podcast

is.

I

know what a visualised podcast is. I met

Gamble.

stay

Faithful.

Ii

I

am

met Gamble. Stay Faithful. -- I am at

Gamble.

Ii

am

Ed

Gamble.