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[typewriter keys clacking]

[gentle music]

[keboard keys clacking]

[gentle music]

- You know, after months of anticipation,

the US government finally released

their report on UFOs late Friday.

But it didn't answer the question.

What are those mysterious flying objects

spotted by US Military pilots in recent years?

[gentle upbeat music]

- I am here to discuss the so-called flying saucers.

We have as of date come to only one firm conclusion,

with respect to this remaining percentage.

And that is that it does not contain any pattern of purpose,

or of consistency that we can relate with -

to any conceivable threat to the United States.

We can say that the recent sightings are in no way connected

with any secret development

by any department of the United States.

- [Interviewer] Major Keyhoe,

as author of the book, "Flying Saucers Are Real"

what is your opinion of these new sightings

of unidentified objects?

- With all due respect to the Air Force,

I believe that some of them will prove to be

of interplanetary origin.

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- My name is John Ramirez

and I served at CIA from 1984 to 2009.

I had a 25 year career and it culminated

in me receiving the Career Intelligence Medal

for my service.

And I started at CIA

in the Directorate of Science and Technology,

in the signals intelligence field

with the specialty of electronic intelligence.

And later transferred over

to the Directorate of Intelligence,

where I was a Weapons Intelligence Analyst for Russian

and ballistic missile defense systems and radars.

I got interested in UFOs at a very young age.

When I was four-years-old,

I saw through my very first telescope

and I saw the wonders in the skies, the moon, the stars.

And I just felt like that's where my real home was,

that I belonged out there.

And this was before the space program.

So I wasn't really influenced by Project Mercury

and the original seven astronauts of NASA.

This was before then

that I felt like my destiny, my future, even my past

was out in space.

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- My name is Richard Doty,

I was a counterintelligence officer

for the United States Air Force Office

of Special Investigations.

I served in that role from 1978 until 1988.

During my time as a counterintelligence officer

with the Air Force, I conducted investigations

into the unidentified flying object phenomena.

Before that, of course I had been briefed into the program

and during my time at Kirtland Air Force Base,

I gained access to a special access program,

which dealt with the United States government's

investigation into the UFO and ET phenomenon.

And during that briefing, I learned about Roswell.

The first part of the briefing pertained to how we,

the United States government,

had made our first contact

with an extraterrestrial being and craft.

And that was at Roswell, New Mexico.

What I was told during this briefing

was that two unidentified crafts,

later identified as extraterrestrial crafts,

were flying around New Mexico on a mission,

some type of reconnaissance mission we think,

and they collided.

Now that's a big controversy

because if you stop and think of an alien craft

coming 40 lightiyears away,

and they coming into our atmosphere and they collide,

how can that happen?

[UFO crashing]

- During a three year investigation,

I found that many pilots

have described objects of substance at high speed.

One case, pilots reported their plane was buffeted

by an object which passed them at 500 miles an hour.

Obviously this was a solid object

and I believe it was from outer space.

[eerie music]

[birds chirping]

- My name is Tom Carey

and I'm a native of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Somewhere along the line after I was graduated from college

and spent four years in the Air Force,

I became re-interested in the subject of UFOs

because I had heard something about a incident

called the Roswell incident.

And I read the book and it just blew me away.

So to become active in the field,

I joined MUFON, the Mutual UFO Network,

just to receive their monthly journal that they print.

Well, the next thing I know,

I'm the state section director for Southeastern Pennsylvania

in charge of investigating local UFO cases.

I wound up investigating local cases

in the Philadelphia area, five county area.

And I learned that there were these two fellas,

Kevin Randall and Donald Schmidt,

were reopening the Roswell case,

which had sort of laid dormant for well, initially 30 years.

It was a two day story back in 1947.

It was a flying saucer, no, it was a weather balloon.

It was a two day story.

And these two fellas Randall and Schmidt

were reopening the Roswell case.

And part of that story was that the crash

was discovered by a group of archeologists

from the University of Pennsylvania.

Well, I have a degree in anthropology,

I'm a trained physical anthropologist,

I went for a doctorate in physical anthropology.

That's how I became a, quote unquote,

active investigator on the case.

'Cause this is like 1991 now.

So I joined the Randall and Schmidt team

looking for the archeologists.

And since then I've expanded my interest in the case

and became an investigator,

now 31 years on this one case, the Roswell case,

and we have found over 600 witnesses,

first and secondhand on the case.

Now during our investigation, we learned many things,

certainly some things about the government involvement

in suppressing this case.

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- I was hired into the Directorate of Science of Technology

as what is known an ELINT analyst,

or electronic intelligence analyst.

My job was to analyze

the Russian ballistic missile defense system and its radars

associated with that system.

That job then entailed looking at the targets

that the Russians were interested in.

And so through that avenue,

I was able to understand the workings of the Russian radars

designed to look for ballistic missile launches,

designed to look for satellites.

In a course of my work at CIA in that field,

there was a time when the Russians

were very interested in targets

that were not ballistic missiles and not satellites.

They eliminated these two targets,

especially the ballistic missiles,

there was no surprise attack.

However, because they detected objects that were unusual,

they went into a high state of readiness.

Their strategic rocket forces

went into a state of readiness.

Which we then detected and was of a concern to us.

They did stand down

and they did their own analysis of what happened.

And we did our analysis of what the Russians detected

and it appeared that there were objects of interest

to the Russians

that warranted a high state of readiness on their part.

So I wrote a memorandum

for the then Deputy Secretary of Defense, John Deutch,

about these radar systems

going into a high state of readiness

because of objects that they tracked.

And described that they were not satellites

and they were not of course ballistic missiles.

But it could have been a test of the system,

it could have been a training segment

for their personnel running these radar systems.

These are like plausible kind of explanations.

But later I learned that what they detected

were these orbs or objects

that were flying over Russian airspace

from the Arctic Circle.

And so to understand these radar systems

are in the periphery of Russia,

looking for threatening targets.

And when they find a satellite system

and it matches up to a known satellite,

they'll drop the target

and keep continuing to scan the horizon.

Well, in this instance,

what popped up over the horizon flew very fast.

And under intelligent control

with intent to go to a destination,

and it was not aircraft,

it was not any kind of missile test.

This prompted the Russians to investigate this even further.

[eerie music]

[birds chirping]

- My name's Jesse Peak.

And I'm a MUFON field investigator

in the state of Pennsylvania,

city of Philadelphia, section one.

MUFON is a big worldwide organization

that investigates the UFO phenomenon

to scientifically help humanity.

We've been doing this since 1967

and we have MUFON field investigators worldwide,

not just here in the United States.

And we break down all kinds of different investigations

that are done and reported to us, of UFO sightings,

experiencer reports, abduction reports.

I also work with the ERT team,

which is the Experiencer Resource Team for MUFON.

So if you had an experience, you can report that,

fill out a questionnaire and we'll actually help you

and walk you through in trying to find answers

to what you had in your experience.

So I joined MUFON in 2019, and a big part

of where that field investigator

feeling inside me comes from,

I was actually in the Army National Guard,

so I'm very familiar with chain of command.

I was with 13 Bravo, Artillery County crew member.

I did my time at Oklahoma, Fort Sill.

And I was stationed

in the Pennsylvania National Guard branch

on Southampton Road.

So I'm very familiar with signing NDAs,

non-disclosure agreements,

working with the chain of command like we do in MUFON.

We know that, you know, it's only need to know

sort of situations where, you know,

you don't ask unless you're offered to know.

I've worked with plenty of people in the intelligence field

and people that have worked in the DOD the DIA,

working with them probably on a weekly basis

throughout MUFON, I met a lot of people that way.

I mean, we know that the government can keep secrets

in the intelligence field.

We look back at the Manhattan Project

and that was 130,000 people that worked on that project.

$2 billion of US money went to that project.

And not one of those people leaked that project whatsoever.

So we know that the intelligence community

can keep a secret.

I mean, they had been doing it since Roswell,

I mean, 75 years, 75 plus years

of keeping secrets of this UFO phenomenon.

And just now, recently, we're starting to have people

in the Congress, senators

that are starting to make new amendments,

the Gillibrand-Rubio Amendment,

that's been coming out.

Chris Carson, another senator,

they're all fighting for disclosure to come forward,

to give us this information finally.

And usually NASA falls in line with that,

with the government in not telling these secrets like this,

but now Bill Nelson has been coming out

and his scientists have been pushing

the intelligence community to give them that information,

so we can actually scientifically look at this

the proper way.

The intelligence community knows what they're doing.

They are slowly getting little leaks here,

but can we trust those leaks?

People come out the woodwork saying,

"Yeah, I'm ex-intelligence, I used to do this and that,

worked at the Pentagon."

Even people that say they worked with NASA back in the day,

they come out and they start

disclosing a little bit of information here and there.

But their job was trained to be an intelligence officer,

so they're the best liars trained in the world.

And I know this from being in the military myself.

If we had to say what we had to say

'cause it was gonna be on the books or in a video somewhere,

of course we had to be the ones to go along with it

and say what had to be said,

whether it was the truth or not.

I've seen people do that all the time.

I mean, it happens every day, especially in Congress.

And you see people talking about it, stuff in the Pentagon.

- During that timeframe

that the Roswell incident happened in July of 1947,

we had a very serious lightning storm in New Mexico,

in central part of New Mexico.

And anybody that's been in New Mexico

knows that lightning storms can be vicious.

Now these two crafts were flying

in the central part of New Mexico and they collided.

One landed or crashed near Corona, New Mexico.

The other craft crashed west of Socorro near Horse Mesa.

The craft that that landed near Corona, New Mexico

was discovered by an archeological team,

a few hours after the craft crashed.

Now we talk about the debris field

that was found by on the Brazos Ranch.

That debris field was part of the craft

that crashed in Corona,

it was the antenna section of that craft.

But the actual craft was recovered pretty much intact

by the Army Air Force.

And I remember during that time period, 1947,

the United States Air Force didn't exist.

That didn't come into play, not until September of 1947.

But the Army Air Force was responsible

for collecting the debris and the bodies.

The bodies were taken initially to Roswell Army Airfield

and then onto Los Alamos.

One live ET was found in the crash at Corona.

He was given the identification of EBE

or Extraterrestrial Biological Entity.

And he stayed alive from 1947 to 1952

when he died in our captivity.

The second craft crashed out near Horse Mesa,

but that craft wasn't founded until 1949.

A rancher moving his cattle from a lower grazing range

to a higher grazing range, discovered that craft,

in the late fall of 1949.

Now this area of Western New Mexico in Catron County

is extremely remote.

The only people

that would frequent that area would be ranchers.

And this rancher went up there to move his cattle

and discovered the craft.

He had no idea what this craft was.

He eventually contacted the Catron County Sheriffs

some days later, 'cause it took him some days to get away.

It took about five days for the sheriff

to make it out there, to look at the craft

and figured it was something that he couldn't identify.

Immediately they notified the Air Force at Kirtland Field.

They came out, recovered the crash.

Unfortunately all the occupants of the craft

at Horse Mesa were dead, their bodies were deteriorated.

So that's in essence, the basics of the Roswell craft

crash sites that I was told by the United States government.

Now I have no reason to think

that what I was told during that time is not true.

I think everything that that I just stated is factual

by the United States government's knowledge.

[eerie music]

- So the headline goes out on July the 8th, 1947,

that the Roswell Army Airfield

had recovered a flying saucer.

Well, somewhere along the line,

the government did not like that.

And very quickly they changed the story

to kill it in the press,

that it wasn't a spaceship, but a weather balloon.

Now they would have been better off if they said,

"Well, it was one of our high tech latest fighter jets

that had crashed."

But they said it was a weather balloon.

And so they suppressed the story in the newspaper.

So they took care of the press.

Now what about the airmen at Roswell?

They knew, I mean, the story went around like wildfire

and everybody on the base knew what happened.

So they threatened the airmen,

holding these meetings in their hangers,

"Okay, fellas, you wanna know more about

what you think happened around here?"

"Okay, if you want to read more about it,

you can read about it in Leavenworth Prison."

So they threatened the airmen to keep quiet

or else they'd wind up in Leavenworth.

Now what about the civilians?

What about the civilians that had gotten to the crash site

before the military?

And we know that they did.

Now there was no martial law,

they did not declare martial law.

There was no emergency like, you know,

an invasion or anything like that,

where the Military could take over the town.

But they de facto did take over the town

and they started threatening the witnesses

who knew what had happened, had been to the site,

had seen the crash

and especially had seen the little bodies.

They threatened the civilian population,

and there were a lot of them, with death.

They said, "If you talk about this,

we're not only going to kill you,

we're going to kill your whole family."

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[birds chirping]

- My name's Eric Mintel.

I am the founder of Bucks County Paranormal Investigations,

also Eric Mintel Investigates,

and for years there's always been so many great stories

of ghosts, UFOs, everything paranormal,

here in Bucks County and beyond.

And I briefly joined MUFON back in, I think, 2009

when we had a huge UFO flap here in Bucks County in 2008,

with many, many, I mean, thousands of people

were seeing these objects

and a lot of video evidence and whatnot.

So I became a field investigator for a short period of time.

Going back to Roswell, 1947, and you know,

the government's, you know, admission

they found a disk that day in the field

and then right away covered it up.

So I think probably the government, at that time,

didn't wanna cause panic

because look, we had the Cold War,

the Cold War was happening,

and then that just proliferated, you know,

decade after decade.

But what people don't understand

is that sightings were still going on.

They were still happening.

Now so maybe you didn't hear a lot

of what was going on at that point.

But when you've got UFOs flying over Washington, D.C.

over the capital building in 1952,

you can't deny that, that's there.

And they had no idea what it was.

You know, Project Blue Book did the studies

of the UFO reports.

And they think they had like, 17,000 reports

and I think 709 that couldn't be explained.

And probably a lot more than that.

So, you know, I think that the bottom line is,

and even with these Tic Tac UFOs,

they don't know what it is.

Is it causing a threat?

We haven't seen any of that, we haven't seen that.

I mean, I don't know some reports use,

I mean, you get some of the reports

of people that have been, you know,

burned by, you know, the radiation

or they've had some kind of like close contact that way.

But as far as physically, you know,

were destructively doing something with these UFO reports,

I don't think they're a threatening,

I don't think they're a threatening thing.

My opinion is that they're here to monitor us.

They're monitoring us for some thing,

we don't know what that is.

So what is the phenomena?

That's the biggest question that we've all been asking

for millennia, really.

I mean, if you go back to religious times, they're there.

There's a painting of the Madonna holding Jesus

with a guy in the background,

looking at a UFO in the background.

So it's amazing that these things are there,

they are in plain sight of what we're seeing,

they're there every day.

My feeling is the government

just does not know what these are

and they don't know how to approach it.

So that's why they created AATIP,

that's why they're creating

all of these different infrastructures

to deal with this somehow.

But so far, nobody has an answer.

- So I'm working on a case now,

going back to the problems people have

after having been abducted or it was a UFO sighting.

And I was sent a picture

and she showed me some puncture wounds

that were left behind on her body,

after having an experience.

Now, we see these a lot with abductees and experiencers,

they get marks on their bodies, some even will get implants.

Dr. Roger Leir was a big part of that,

he helped get these people with implants

that have had experiences and he would remove them.

And we have a lot of data on those as well.

A lot of the times, if you have an object in your body,

you can pull it out and then it'll have a membrane

around the object itself.

And what that membrane does

is it helps the body not reject the object

being placed inside.

Then when you cut that off,

it usually turns down to some type of metal or meteorite

that's being placed in the body.

Now there's been plenty of times

where we've actually taken an EMF reader

or some kind of electrical device,

and put it close to the objects

that are implanted in people,

and it will actually give off readings,

which is, I mean, what does that? We have no idea.

This is just part of the phenomenon that we question.

[eerie music]

- In 1984, I was assigned to Area 51.

The public would call it Area 51,

it was Groom Lake Complex in Nevada.

I walked into a building

and there was a closed-circuit camera,

a monitor, excuse me,

showing a picture of an ET on the camera.

I asked the agent in the room, "Where is this?

What am I looking at here?"

He said, "This is closed-circuit.

This ET is at another facility."

And I learned later was S2 Annex, it was called.

"And he's getting ready to be interviewed."

And I watched it for about, like I said,

about seven to 10 minutes.

And another officer came in the room

and asked me what I was doing in there.

And I said, "Oh, I came over for another project.

And I see this."

He said, "I don't think you're cleared for it."

So I had to leave.

But in that seven to 10 minutes, I saw a lot of this.

Now the ironic part of this

was there were two intelligence officers

sitting, one on one side of him,

one on the other side of him.

And there was sound in the room,

but there was no word spoken.

Everything was being done, I think by,

we would refer to as telepathy.

But actually the government doesn't consider it that,

they're calling it thought transfers.

[eerie music]

- People think that we gather together in dark rooms

and talk about UFOs.

So we don't do that at all.

At CIA, there are no UFO accounts,

there are no ET accounts, intelligence accounts

that I was aware of when I served there.

Because of our day to day jobs of what we did

with our regular analysis,

we detected Russian interest in the phenomenon.

And so we do have some sensors that can detect IR,

that's no longer classified,

that is something that you can search for yourself

in FOIA documents,

that certain classes of our surveillance satellites

have IR capabilities, they're electro-optical satellites.

And with these sensors, we also detected orbs as well,

flying over Russian airspace.

And so you might wonder, why not US airspace?

Well, keep in mind that the US intelligence community

does not conduct surveillance.

We do not spy over US territory.

We are a foreign intelligence-focused agency.

So that is why we detected it over Russia.

And so that brought us to thinking,

well, what are these craft?

They're flying extremely fast,

they're flying extremely high,

what could it be, could it be a threat?

So my branch, the ELINT Analysis Branch

was assigned to eliminate, to rule out, what it could be.

We looked at several Russian craft, aircraft that they had,

which could fit the bill.

There's the MiG-29 and as the MiG-31.

These two are interceptors,

they're designed to fly straight up into the sky

and then shoot down something below them.

So we eliminated those MiG-29s and MiG-31s.

They carried something called stealth generator.

The stealth generator could have created

something like an orb like appearance to an IR sensor.

But these craft were flying much higher

than the 123,000 foot world record altitude

set by the MiG-31, for example.

So we eliminated that.

Subject matter experts were then called together

at each of these agencies

by the agency that detected

the presence of these orbs in our sensors.

That agency was the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency.

So what they did was they eliminated the fact

that they were Russian aircraft.

And so they went to the NRO and tried to then find out

if there was any kind of glitches in the satellite.

NRO, who's responsible for the care

and feeding of these satellites came with the report,

no, there was nothing wrong with the satellites.

NGA also eliminated any of the ground software

that may have been processing these images

and, no, there are no glitches in the software.

And so the NGA and NRO would need to get together

and discover exactly what are these objects

in the frames of electro-optical imagery

that they've detected?

They gather together these subject matter experts

and these other agencies like CIA, like DIA,

like NSA, NRO, NGA, as well as their contractors,

do a deep dive into exactly what these objects might be.

And this was the Orb Working Group.

And so a report from a Russian general at the time,

retired now, his name was Alexeyev.

General Alexeyev wrote that the Russian leadership

wanted to attract these objects using radars,

and they found a way to do so.

[eerie music]

- In 2016, my girlfriend and I

were traveling across the Center Bridge bridge

from New Hope to Stockton, New Jersey

and out of the corner of my eye, I saw five orange orbs.

And so these lights just came out of nowhere.

And at first I was trying to see,

well, there's a restaurant right there,

could these possibly be Chinese lanterns?

Maybe there's a wedding going on or something like that.

And I'm like, well, wait a minute, no, it's February

and it's cold out and there's no way

there's gonna be any kind of thing like that.

So with that, I'm fumbling to get my phone,

to try to take a picture of it.

And of course my flash goes off of the phone

and you know, but I was able to get one shot.

But she got a better look at what was going on.

And these things just appeared.

There was five lights, they appeared.

And it looked like they did a search pattern over the river.

And then one by one, they just petered out,

one by one and disappeared.

And I was able to get the last one before it went away.

One of the most incredible nights,

I could not believe

that we actually saw something like that.

- Some people get go real deep into the rabbit hole,

you know, as we call it,

and things tend to happen because you get so frustrated

and you're thinking you're working with the right people

that come out and try to leak your little stuff,

but really they're most of the time leaking disinformation.

And that tends to hurt that person, getting them confused,

and they think they're losing their mind.

And we've seen this before.

We've seen people lose really tight knit relationships

with their wives, married for 20, 30 years,

over them coming out and stating they've seen the UFO,

just doing that.

And you don't see too many, very doctors or scientists

coming out themselves talking about this subject, either.

Or pilots, I mean, pilots are one of the biggest,

you know, witnesses that we have today that come out.

And the FAA tells them, you know, report it, send it to us.

And it goes in a lockbox.

And usually some people will even show up

and take the evidence, they'll take,

there's a little box that goes in every little plane

that records the radar systems, just like in the Military.

And what they'll do is they'll come in

and they'll take those boxes

and then make them sign an NDA,

nondisclosure agreement,

saying that they can never talk about this stuff again,

which deters people from reporting a UFO sighting.

And that hurts the community in a whole,

because these people are some of the top trained,

most have military backgrounds,

which is why they got into flying planes like they have,

so they know what they're seeing,

they're some of the most credible witnesses

we have in UFO field,

and this is what's being done to them.

They're being deterred, not to say what they're seeing.

- Big picture does the Pentagon know

more than they're saying?

- 100%, 100%.

And Leland, you had George Will on earlier,

he said, it's in our country's DNA

not to trust the government.

And this is another example why.

These are Navy pilots,

these are the top pilots in the world.

[eerie music]

- I investigated other sightings and incidents

that involved UFOs or ETs during my time from 1978 to 1988.

In 1984, I was assigned to Area 51.

The public would call it Area 51.

It was Groom Lake Complex in Nevada.

It was actually a Detachment 3, Air Force test

and evaluation site, which was the headquarters for that,

was out of Edwards Air Force Base.

And out there while I was there,

I also had access to information pertaining to the UFOs,

ET contacts that we had,

and actually live ETs that we had out there.

Now, I didn't have access to everything

pertaining to that program.

Special access programs are very compartmented

in the military and the government.

So you only have access

to parts of the program, not all of it.

But I was counterintelligence officers for the base.

And so I had to have access to enough in order to do my job.

And one of the jobs of a counterintelligence officer

is what the general public refers to as disinformation.

We, United States government,

especially the counterintelligence officers,

are trying to protect the secrecy of what we're doing

in research and development projects,

reverse engineering of a craft

or developing some kind of special weapons from the craft

or some other technology.

So during our protection

of these highly classified projects,

what we're gonna do is we're gonna develop a program

to protect it from a general public.

So for instance, if you're driving along some place

close to a test range, such as, we'll say,

Highway 95 or Highway 93 in Nevada,

and you see something flying out there that is exotic to you

or not known to you,

you're gonna immediately think

it's either something developed a highly classified object

that we developed or it might be an extraterrestrial craft.

So depending on which way the pendulum swings, so to speak,

we'll try to convince you one or the other,

that what you saw is actually a UFO,

to protect the real project that we're working on,

which is maybe a reverse engineering.

It would be one of our crafts,

but we're trying to convince you, it was an ET.

Now it also works the other way around.

You see something, we try to convince you,

when you actually see a UFO and we know it's a UFO,

we know it's an extraterrestrial craft,

we're gonna try to convince you that it's one of ours.

It's something we're developing,

so you don't have to say something about it.

Or, hey, be a patriotic American

and just be quiet about what you saw,

don't spread it around.

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- You know, we have a lot of hope now

about disclosure, right,

you've heard about the term disclosure.

The government has created a, what they call,

a Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force.

Well, what that is going to turn out to be,

I guarantee you, is to keep the coverup going.

And if they release information,

they're supposed to periodically release such information,

they're housed into the defense department.

Periodically they're supposed to report

on findings of, they don't call 'em the UFOs anymore,

they call 'em UAPs, unidentified aerial phenomenon.

If they do bring up the subject

of UFOs or UAPs, in any context, I guarantee you,

they will never talk about Roswell,

for two reasons, two reasons.

One, it will prove that they have been lying to us

for 75 years as we speak.

And two that they committed civil rights violations

to cover up the case.

They will not talk about Roswell.

They have not talked about Roswell since 1997.

And they put out a monograph,

a book called, "Roswell Case Closed."

They hoped it was case closed,

but it's still opened as far as the civilian investigation,

myself and Donald Schmidt is concerned.

- When Bill Clinton took office,

he realized immediately when he took office,

that there was a government within a government.

So there's a lot of deeper things here going on

under the surface than what we're seeing.

And again, all of those guys,

it's great that Lue Elizondo and all those guys

are bringing this to the forefront

and getting this information.

But again, what's happening?

Are we getting any answers?

I don't think so.

I mean, it's there, I think, almost people

are becoming desensitized to it as well,

because it's just a proliferation of these sightings

that, "Oh, there's another UFO sighting. there it is again."

You know, until something lands on the White House lawn,

like it did in, "The Day The Earth Stood Still"

I think it's going to be just that,

it's gonna be an enigma, it's gonna be ubiquitous,

it's gonna be there all the time.

And that's what we do.

That's what we're searching for that answer

all the time on what it could be.

And that is the greatest mystery,

what could it be, what is it?

And I go back to another case, which I love

and I love to research, was in the '50s,

the Holloman Air Force Base, UFO landing.

And apparently a UFO had landed,

a crew was doing maneuvers

and they were filming the maneuvers

and they had seen three objects landing over the base.

And one seemed to be, it was wobbly,

it was kind of like in trouble.

Well, it came down and landed and they filmed everything.

They filmed this thing coming out.

And just outta Close Encounters,

this thing landed, the tripod came out, the door opened up,

three of these beings came out.

Now the description of these guys was what made me think

that this could be a real event

because they weren't the typical grays.

These guys had big noses,

they had weird like an African wrap, something like a,

they said it was a communication device on their head.

Weird, their eyes were like ours,

but they looked like Egyptian-like eyes,

but the pupils went like a cats, they were up and down.

And they had like blue fitting jumpsuits on.

And so it was just the most interesting description

of an extraterrestrial that you'd never heard about,

you've never heard about this.

But supposedly they have film footage of this.

Well, what happened was there was a film crew,

when Nixon took office, he was going to

disclose all of the UFO information.

He was gonna get it out to the public and say,

"Look, this is what's going on.

"We do know that they're real."

He put a documentary film crew together

and they were gonna put together a video

called, "UFO's Past, Present & Future."

They hired Robert Emenegger, who was a director,

and he was told he could get 600 feet of this footage

of this UFO that landed,

that they could put into the documentary.

Well, when it came time to go get the footage,

it mysteriously disappeared.

But apparently about 12, 13 seconds of it

made it into the documentary.

Somehow it made it into the documentary.

And you could see this white dot,

just coming down to the tarmac.

You know, were they trying to get that out there?

Were they trying to say then, "This really happened?

"Well, let's put it in a way that we're not gonna say

"that it truly happened, but it could have happened."

It's all of these different things that we've gotta,

you know, kind of like go through,

all these different layers of,

you know, I don't wanna say lies, but yeah, lies, deception,

you know, kind of manufacturing the truth.

And that's been the greatest mystery,

it's like, what is the answer?

[dramatic music]

- Everything the government does has a plan.

You can't really do much in the government

without some sort of an operational plan.

So when we try to protect

a technology research and development project,

an exotic weapon system, we plan it.

Most of the planning is done at headquarters,

and then it filtered down

to the counter intelligence officer at the base level.

And we implement that program that is sent down to us.

That was my role as counterintelligence officer.

Now there's numerous projects and special access programs,

I've worked on, that are still classified.

I'm not gonna hide the fact that we United States government

knows about extraterrestrial races,

about exotic technology that had been given to us by ETs,

the fact that our planet has been visited by ETs

for probably thousands of years.

Now, remember I mentioned that we had an ET

in captivity from 1947 to 1952,

was codename EBE, for Extraterrestrial Biological Entity.

He was able to communicate eventually with us.

Now, you have to understand that an ET

is not familiar with our technology, our science, our time,

nothing about our society.

So it was very difficult for us

to obtain information from him, it was a male.

Initially EBE was willing to provide the information,

but the communications process

was very slow during that time period.

Number one, he couldn't speak English obviously,

and we couldn't speak his language.

And his biology and anatomy

was highly different from a human.

So our scientists or doctors,

our very, very smart physicians

developed an implant to put it into his neck,

which allowed him to say our words.

Before that he couldn't pronounce any of our words

because of the way his vocal chords

or his anatomy existed in his throat.

But we developed a way to do it.

Very smart, EBE was very smart, extremely intelligent,

and he was able to learn number one,

our math really easy, our language,

at least not all of it, but enough to communicate with us

and enough to relate to us some of the things that he could,

that was somewhat similar on his planet to our planet.

[dramatic music]

- An officer in the Office of the Chief Scientist

and the Directorate of Science and Technology approached me.

This is someone I knew, that I worked with before

in a field called scientific visualization.

And he said, "There's gonna be an interesting,

one-day symposium that you might want to attend."

"It's gonna be at this hotel

and it's gonna be on this date."

There were three topics on the agenda.

It was sponsored by an office at CIA,

which was highly placed,

and we should have known these topics.

These topics were the UFO studies done by CIA in the past,

the existence of alien hybrids

and CIA's interest in alien hybridization

of the human genome.

And the third topic was about

an information technology explosion that will happen

where this information will be disseminated very rapidly

with devices that were not yet invented,

far better than any of the cell phones we had

back in the day.

This was the first time

where I actually got an official briefing

on anything to do with UFOs.

And in the briefing,

it was stated that the McMinnville, Oregon UFO

was an actual UFO.

The briefer said a lot of the UFOs

seen during the '50s and '60s,

when CIA was testing its aircraft,

that is the U-2 and the A-12 OXCART,

they were identified as UFOs by observers on the ground

because the test craft were silver.

They were not black, there were not black planes at all,

during the testing phase, they were silver.

So when you see something streaking across the sky

at 70,000 or 80,000 feet, that was silver,

a lot of observers thought that they were UFOs.

And CIA thought back then that,

"Okay, that's fine, if they identify them as UFOs,

that's just hiding in plain sight

these special aircraft that we were working on,

we don't care if they identify it as UFOs."

And so the McMinnville UFO was a real UFO

that occurred in 1950 before the first U-2 flew.

- Speaking about the government report that they put out,

I believe it was June 25th of last year,

that report unfortunately was not historical in nature.

They only covered cases since 2014,

namely these gun videos of the Navy.

It did not have any Air Force cases.

And it was only limited to 114 cases that they looked at.

They couldn't explain,

113 of them, were still unexplainable.

The one that they could explain,

turned out to be a weather balloon, of all things.

So the other thing about this whole phenomenon since 2017,

is that the Air Force has said nothing,

it's all been a Navy show.

And this UAP Task Force that they're putting together

is a Navy CIA thing, the Air Force is not mentioned at all.

And that's where all the cases are,

the historical cases, Roswell, Rendlesham Forest,

the other good one, they didn't even look at those

because they would have to admit too much suppression,

too many laws that they broke to suppress those,

especially Roswell.

The Air Force has not spoken since 1997,

which was the 50th anniversary of the Roswell case.

- So all the way back when Roswell first occurred,

the newspapers put a headline out

and stating the truth of what actually occurred.

The rancher came forward, being a good citizen,

thinking he was doing the right thing,

but immediately the day after,

actually within the same 24 hours,

the narrative was changed.

And this guy was made to sign

this non-disclosure agreement.

He was held for six days, almost a whole week,

being tortured and talked to in ways

to not describe what happened on his ranch.

When he was released, we know he was paid money,

he showed up in a brand new truck a couple weeks later.

And he never spoke about it again.

Now there's a lot of people,

and he wishes he never went back and told anybody

about what happened.

He says this to this day, well, until he passed away.

But now who was to blame for this?

Who are we gonna go after?

Should they be paid for their losses

and everything that they've went through and lost?

It might not happen because these people

are so into the black market and so deep into the government

that we can't even get FOIA requests out

because they're in private industries doing this work.

So it's hard to find who is really responsible for this.

Does the president know about this?

I don't believe so,

because he only does it four-year term,

it gets done again, it's a full eight years.

So would they really debrief him on all this?

I don't really think so.

So I think it goes way deeper than the president.

And I believe it goes into the CIA

and little private industries like this,

where they can do this work and not have to answer for it.

Because this happens all the time with every kind of thing,

not even just the UFO phenomenon, they do this with.

Even if they do disclose everything,

I don't think everybody will be given the respect

that they deserve back because it is so deep like this.

People have gone down this rabbit hole many times

and they come out on the dark side in all this,

because they know that they'll never win.

And it's a shame because it shouldn't be like that.

We live in a free world where, you know,

it's free speech, we're allowed to vote.

We should be able to know, we pay these people in Congress

and our government to work for us, to speak for us,

to do things to help this country move forward.

Yet we're stumped when we get

this intelligence thing going on

where they wanna hide everything all the time.

I don't think we'll ever fully get

a full disclosure from the government, in my opinion.

I just think that if they did that, it would ruin religion,

it would ruin the government and the oil products

that we get from overseas.

And that's what the government does, they hide stuff.

If it was a religion aspect,

people would not know what to believe in anymore.

They believed all their lives

about a Christian, Catholic, you know, whatever it is.

And then you come down to hearing that aliens,

other life out there, I mean, that can ruin a person.

But see if the government came out long ago

and disclosed this, like they should have,

we wouldn't have these problems or these issues today.

[dramatic music]

- Based on what he could eventually explain to us

and what we could teach him,

we found that he's been visiting earth

or his species been visiting earth,

or our solar system I should say, for about 2,000 years.

So that of course brings up the big question

that people ask is, "Wow, was he here

around the time Jesus was here?"

Now that's a very touchy, conversational piece

to talk to the general public,

especially somebody who's religious.

If they think that ET planted a being on earth,

2,000 years ago, immediately they're gonna think

it was Jesus.

And was Jesus preaching, not the gospel, so to speak,

but their gospel or their belief.

One thing we did find, which is astonishing

was that, although EBE didn't talk about a God,

he talked about a supreme being,

and they did worship a supreme being,

similar to the way we worship God or Muhammad

or other religions.

He showed us something in the craft that related,

it was a figurine that they would worship,

similar to what we would worship a sculpture or something

of God or Jesus.

And there's other things that he was able to explain to us

that we found in their craft.

Now, you gotta understand that their technology

was probably 50,000 years ahead of us.

So we couldn't understand their technology.

It was difficult sometimes,

for him to understand our technology,

different planet, different species.

And so we taught him what we could from our civilization

and he taught us what he could from his.

- I mean, you know, going back to, you know,

the Mercury Theater in the era

and what was that, that was the Orson Welles' adaptation

of H. G. Wells' "War of the Worlds."

So, "War of the Worlds" what was that supposed to be?

Well, all of a sudden aliens landed, Martians landed,

in Grovers Mill, New Jersey.

And, you know, what was stated in the newspapers

and what actually happened were two different things.

You know, they were supposedly, you know,

there was mass panic, there was people

that were like going crazy

and there was just mass bedlam everywhere.

Well, that never happened, it never happened.

But news made it happen.

It was fake news back then.

And as a matter of fact, Frank Stanton,

who basically he was the, I think,

the president of Princeton, New Jersey,

and this was the Mercury Theater of the era,

and that adaptation was funded

by the Rockefeller Foundation.

And what happened was Frank Stanton

was upset that they weren't causing the panic

that they were hoping the cause, you know, through that.

Even though every half hour,

the radio would come on and say,

"This is an adaptation of H.G. Wells' War of the Worlds."

But what the news stated at that time,

that there was like mass bedlam happening and craziness.

But it's just amazing to me

how you can have two different opinions

of an event that took place.

And, one that really happened.

and one that really didn't happen.

You know, this could be,

it's manufactured news at that point.

You know, it could be manufactured

to suit the needs of a certain few

and keep everybody on their toes.

Because again, what did we have going on around that time?

World War II.

So I always think about that and think to myself,

wow, you know, it's like,

there were two very different things going on.

And we're just finding out what the real story is today.

- If was just the craft,

I think the government would readily disclose that.

And yes, there were outer space beings on the craft,

I think the government would disclose that eventually.

But the fact that these beings had DNA

that was found in the human genome,

I think that is the actual secret of Roswell.

I think that is a core secret of why the government

will not talk about Roswell.

All humans are in fact alien DNA enhanced,

but others were more enhanced than most humans.

And that these more enhanced humans

were of particular interest to CIA.

Now, I didn't put it all together back then,

but now I believe that this is part of the Roswell story

that was never told,

that whatever craft was recovered

and that whoever the occupants were in that craft,

that when the scientists

were able to sequence the human genome

and then went back at CIA to look at the genome

of any recovered alien beings,

they were surprised to find

that what the alien DNA looked like was also in humans.

But this was the way I connected the dots,

because I wanted to understand

exactly what Roswell was all about.

Why is it such a secret that a spacecraft from outer space

crashed and there may have been occupants on board,

why is that such a military secret?

Of course you can say it was the Cold War.

But the Cold War has been over since 1991,

when the Soviet Union fell.

And still there's this secrecy over Roswell,

that particular incident

that the government has never addressed.

- So we, the United States government,

knew of some instances where we had captured a hybrid.

We took him into captivity, so to speak,

because we knew that this person was a hybrid.

It was a male, he had been bred in a tube,

at a facility that we later found out about.

Examining this person,

both physiologically and biologically,

taking blood samples and tissue samples,

our scientists came to the conclusion

that this person was in fact a hybrid.

- The Roswell crash,

according to our investigation of over 30 years,

contained five crew members

or Extraterrestrial Biological Entities,

as they like to be called.

Four of them expired when the ship blew up,

on July the 2nd, 1947, we believe.

One survived the crash and lived

for a number of years, post-crash.

We don't know exactly when it died,

but the information we have is that it expired

during some experiment they were doing with it or on it.

And according to a former commander

of the Air Materiel Command

at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base,

who on his deathbed said that they were stored

at the Dugway Proving Grounds, which is a lot like Area 51.

That the beings that all five of them

were being stored at Dugway Proving Grounds,

near Ogden, Utah.

It's been recently speculated

that one of the reasons for the coverup

was that the beings contained DNA of some sort

that showed human traits, homo sapiens traits.

I believe the fossil record is fairly clear

of our evolutionary track.

Where something like this DNA hypothesis,

sharing human genes of some sort,

you have to have more than just speculation on that.

- I think, you know, as far as the hybrid situation

and monitoring what we're doing

and what the extraterrestrials could possibly be.

I mean, one conjecture was, was really incredible,

was could they be us from the future?

And I thought that was brilliant, you know,

'cause that's what they actually thought

when they did this research in Roswell,

that they thought maybe they were time travelers,

they were time travelers and they were us from the future.

- The study about time compression is very interesting.

For 30 years of my 31 years investigation of Roswell,

I never considered where they were from,

they the occupants of the spaceship,

where they might have been from.

So along about a year or two ago,

I interviewed the two sons of one of the Paperclip Germans

who were brought over after World War II,

a rocket scientist,

you know, Wernher von Braun and his crew.

Well, second in command of these Paperclip rocket scientists

was a fella named Ernst Steinhoff.

So it was extra temporal according to Ernst Steinhoff.

Well, I know they can't get here from there

because it's the space time continuum in the universe,

it's too great.

But they had to compress the space time continuum

to maybe jump from one to the other,

without having to spend a thousand years to get here.

This Navy commander, who's name was George Hoover,

he was on Wernher von Braun's,

he was in his group studying UFOs and Roswell

and things like that.

Well, you know, Roswell was a crash

of a ship from somewhere else.

Oh, you know, you figure, "Oh, well, Alpha Centauri,

what, you know, where are you talking about?"

He says, "No, no, no, it was not extraterrestrial,

it was extratemporal, time travelers."

[planet exploding]

[gentle music]

- So when you look at the UFO phenomenon

and we wonder there's some explanations

of why they might be here,

and some hypothesis that people have made.

Now, when you look at it here on earth as humans,

we tag cows, we look at different biological specimens

under the microscope and we log them,

we figure out what's going on, we've run tests on them.

We do this kind of stuff with animals

so we can learn from it.

We've had aspect in thinking of the fact that

it's a big possibility that

that's what they're here to do with us.

So just like we treat cattle

and we tag them on their ear with a number,

they kept here to be here doing the same exact thing.

What do you think that implant is in somebody's body,

after they've had an experience with the UFO?

That's the same thing that we're doing.

And that's what a lot of people think here.

I mean, this is a big possibility of what's happening here

because it's not only people being abducted

in say yours or my generation,

this goes on generational, this is a generational thing.

I've talked to people that have had cousins

and brothers and grandmothers

and their fathers have had experiences.

And it runs in the family.

We also talk about Rh negative blood.

That is a bloodline that has just popped up

out of nowhere within science.

We have no idea, it's the only one,

we have no idea where it came from in life.

It just appeared one time and it's been here ever since.

And we try to think maybe is it a possibility

that we have hybrids here?

Are these the people that are being taken,

that are having these experiences?

It's a great possibility.

So don't just look into the one little aspect of it,

look at it all, get the bigger picture, take it in

and understand what you're looking at.

Then you can be intelligent enough

to go and have a conversation with somebody,

to learn from somebody else

and actually know what you're talking about.

Don't take the short way up

because it's good to have this information

and know what's going on.

'Cause it's happening.

The government wouldn't be involved,

like I said many times before,

if it wasn't a real phenomenon.

- And I think for the skeptics out there

that are saying, "Oh, you know, we need definitive proof."

I think the proof is there.

Look at the amount of video that these people are getting.

Yeah, there's a number that could be faked,

but there's a lot of really,

really compelling evidence there.

Listen to people's stories, look at their body movements.

Look at the way they're emotionally

talking about these events that happened in their life,

that they can't explain.

You can't fake that kind of like, that human emotion there.

So when I hear skeptics say,

"Well, you know, there's no such thing as UFOs,

there's no such thing as Bigfoot."

Sorry, we've had evidence, we've seen it.

I've had experiences myself.

People that are high up in society,

that are classy, good people,

they had these experiences that they can't explain.

And so to the skeptics I say, you know,

really look at the proof, look, there is proof there.

You just have to dig deep.

I was on the fence with the belief

that people were getting abducted.

Like the few people that I really truly believe

that were abducted, and I've interviewed them too,

incredible, was well, Kathleen Marden,

whose aunt was Betty Hill.

Betty and Barney Hill.

I really truly believe

that they seriously had that abduction

that happened to them.

Another gentleman that I talked to Calvin Parker,

he was the Pascagoula UFO encounter in 1973,

where him and Charlie Hickson were abducted

and taken aboard of UFO.

And they were also examined.

And the aliens that came out there did not look like grays,

they looked like robots.

And very, very strange account.

And Calvin is the most down-to-earth guy

and has not wavered from the story since 1973.

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- I found it very interesting that Avril Haines,

the director of National Intelligence,

the head of the entire intelligence community

and the NASA administrator, Bill Nelson,

appeared together at The National Cathedral,

when were discussing our future in space.

And they made some very telling revelations.

For example, was the first time in my memory,

where a sitting head of the intelligence community

of the United States spoke the word extraterrestrially

in the context of these UAP craft.

I believe that's an important step forward

of building a bridge to actually revealing to the world

and to the US citizen, exactly what happened at Roswell,

what's happening now over our skies.

So I have high hopes about the coming years

as we approach the 75th anniversary of Roswell,

that the government will finally come clean

as to what exactly is this phenomenon all about.

Who are flying the craft?

Where do they come from?

Are they part of our hidden past, that we've forgotten?

Can they then correlated to, for example, religious texts

that describe a creation story

where god or gods, were able to create humans,

made in their image?

I have high hopes that 2022 will be the year

where we start making that first step

toward revealing the actual truth.

- And one of the last things I want to discuss

is disclosure, the disclosure.

The question is, will we ever know?

Will the government ever tell everything they know

about the subject of UFOs?

My answer to that is, absolutely not.

There's no way that we, as a society,

will be told everything

the government knows or known since 1947.

There's numerous reasons why

the government can't tell the truth.

Number one, research and development.

They're never gonna tell us everything they know

about what they've learned.

Number two, about alien technology, human hybrids,

has the ETs manipulated the human DNA?

They're not gonna talk about that.

Now, will they say, "Yeah, we might be visited

or what these objects you're seeing is not terrestrial."

Maybe.

Nut that generates more questions than answers.

So my personal belief, and I know I'm contrary

to some other people like Lue Elizondo,

is that, no, I don't think we'll ever get full disclosure.

- This fellow from Harvard Avi Loeb, two years ago,

there was a, I thought it was an asteroid

passing through the solar system,

but he thought it was a spaceship of some sort,

which I would, you know, say put outta my mind,

except he's from Harvard.

He a Harvard physicist.

And he came up with a theory

that it was a long trajectory probe of some sort.

So he's created a project called the Galileo Project

and they're launching another,

the Webb telescope is been launched again.

They're getting an unfettered view of the universe.

So they will be able to see the chemical elements

of stars and planets and things like that.

Plus everything is clearer

than what you get from a telescope down on the earth.

Because they're coming up with more Earth-like planets,

every month, they come up with another one.

I forget what the total is now,

but this one star, 41 light years away, has seven of them,

seven Earth-like planets.

And the universe there has to be,

as Carl Sagan would say,

"Billions and billions of Earth-like planets."

And that's, according to scientists,

you have to have an Earth-like planet with water

to have life.

I expect some startling announcement

within the next five years along those lines.

Not just, "Oh, there's so many Earth-like planets."

I expect a little more definition to come within five years.

Certainly a report from the government soon

about what they are collecting

and that what everybody suspects the UAPs really are.

- 200 years ago, would you people would think

that we could actually see on a box,

we could see other people on this box in our living room

or talk to people from vast distances around the globe,

on our phones, or, you know, or through a telephone.

That would've been absolute like, you know,

would've been witchcraft, you know,

it would've been like out of the realm of people's thinking.

But look at where we are today, look at the technology.

So keeping an open mind, I think,

is really, really important to everything that we talk about

in the paranormal world.

'Cause I always say

that there's always a bit of truth to the folklore.

Keep an open mind.

[gentle music]

- We hear people all the time when they report cases say,

"I think I'm going crazy, I think I'm losing my mind."

You know what I mean?

"But I saw this and I had to report it to somebody."

And we tell 'em all the time,

listen, it happens all the time, you know what I mean?

People see things all the time.

And most things can be explained, don't get me wrong.

We have a statistics,

it's about 94% of things can be explained

and there's 6% that cannot be explained.

And that 6% is what makes the phenomenon real.

People always say, "Well, how do we know this is real

and not just the government technology?"

Well, let's look at it this way,

if you look at the millions and millions of cases

that have been reported to MUFON and other organizations,

all it takes is one of them to be real

for this phenomenon to be a true thing.

So that's how we have to look at it on the scale.

And then if you really know your astronomy

and you know how big the universe is

and how big the galaxy is,

you'll realize that we're just a small spec

in a huge, huge ocean.

- So I expect something definitive, something startling,

something solid to come from the telescopes

and the science that's behind it.

And hopeful that the government in their projects now

that the they're known around the world,

they can't hide them anymore.

They have to come out with something solid

and not couched in words

that just turn out to be gobbledygook

to keep the cover up going.

That's what I'm hoping for is some transparency

because the world is ready for it,

the world is ready for it.

You don't know what the future's going to hold.

Try those open doors.

- I firmly believe not in the need to know.

I think the need to know is outdated, it's outmoded.

I believe in the need to share.

- There's so many skeptics.

There's so many people that are backstabbers

against legitimate researchers within the UFO community

that the skeptics are everywhere.

And so I always say this,

we have to ask the right questions.

If we ask the right questions that generates thought.

And thinking by smart people

will sometimes answer those questions

without us having to go through a FOIA request,

which we know that the government's not gonna give

if they don't wanna give.

So one of the things that you have to do,

even if you're just beginning in this subject area of UFOs,

is ask the questions, ask the right questions,

do the right research

and you might get the right answers.

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