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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:35,669 --> 00:00:38,400 The'a míe in 2112 that resonateswith people 2 00:00:38,438 --> 00:00:40,907 and hainuedto resonate with people. 3 00:00:40,941 --> 00:00:43,808 Thatwhat hagiven it its longevity. 4 00:00:43,844 --> 00:00:47,906 I think2112wathefirst record thatwe made 5 00:00:47,948 --> 00:00:49,848 whewesounded like Ruh. 6 00:00:49,883 --> 00:00:52,181 2112wathe beginning ofeverythingforu, 7 00:00:52,219 --> 00:00:54,278 andwithoutwhich, nothing. 8 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,770 Theaudienceweattractedto Ruh 'cautheywe heavy. 9 00:01:09,803 --> 00:01:13,603 Progressive heavy rock One. Peńod. End ofstory. 10 00:01:26,286 --> 00:01:28,345 Sometimesyou hitoneoutofthe park 11 00:01:28,388 --> 00:01:30,482 with anceptthat resonates with everybody, 12 00:01:30,524 --> 00:01:32,891 andthatwhattheydid - itwaoutthe. 13 00:02:06,426 --> 00:02:10,226 2112waaseedthatpread out and grewand attracted, 14 00:02:10,263 --> 00:02:15,531 but Moving pictures arrived in afortilefield and... 15 00:02:26,146 --> 00:02:30,049 You put Moving pictureson and it' hit, hit, hit, hit, hit. 16 00:02:30,083 --> 00:02:33,883 InthecaofMoving pictures itwathe mainstream uccess 17 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:38,551 andthefactthateverytrack onthat record ia killertrack 18 00:02:38,592 --> 00:02:43,325 Ourfan, they keepwaing uto play mosongfrom Moving Pictures 19 00:02:43,363 --> 00:02:45,593 than anyotheralbum. 20 00:02:45,632 --> 00:02:49,193 So, to me, ittell me that it'justadeep, deep record, 21 00:02:49,236 --> 00:02:51,568 andthatgiven it its lasting power. 22 00:03:11,191 --> 00:03:14,786 Weformedthe band in 1968, whenwewe 15yearsold 23 00:03:14,828 --> 00:03:16,626 with ourońginal dmmmer, John Rutsey. 24 00:03:16,663 --> 00:03:20,065 Wewe playing a lotofCream, Bih blues. 25 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:22,728 We likedtheAmeńcan bluessong 26 00:03:22,769 --> 00:03:25,636 that had been re-ierpreted bythe Bih rockers. 27 00:03:25,672 --> 00:03:29,165 Thefactthatwewewriting muiceañy, wavery, very importa. 28 00:03:29,209 --> 00:03:33,271 Withthe influenceofLedZeppolin, westartedtoget heavierand heavier. 29 00:03:33,313 --> 00:03:38,774 Alexand Geddy, in particular, wesogoodforkidthatageand... 30 00:03:38,819 --> 00:03:42,551 totally, totallyabsorbed withwaingto be muician. 31 00:03:59,239 --> 00:04:03,506 Thatfirstalbumwe recorded in abouta48-hourpace. 32 00:04:03,543 --> 00:04:06,205 We hadtwofull nights and recorded everything, 33 00:04:06,246 --> 00:04:09,944 andthenthewaoneday to mixthealbum, beyondthat. 34 00:04:09,983 --> 00:04:12,782 Theońginal mixofthealbum 35 00:04:12,819 --> 00:04:15,845 wa...waing, tosaythe least. 36 00:04:16,890 --> 00:04:18,790 SoTerry Brown stepped in. 37 00:04:18,825 --> 00:04:22,784 Thedidn't really havea handleon whattheywedoing atthat poi. 38 00:04:22,829 --> 00:04:24,263 Theyweveryyoung. 39 00:04:24,297 --> 00:04:27,130 And it needed somebodyto, sortof, 40 00:04:27,167 --> 00:04:29,158 pull alltheelementstogether. 41 00:04:29,202 --> 00:04:31,034 Hewaourhero, becau... 42 00:04:31,071 --> 00:04:33,062 he made usound thewaywewaedtosound. 43 00:04:44,718 --> 00:04:48,348 Weońginally leasedthe record on ourown label, 44 00:04:48,388 --> 00:04:50,447 'cau noonewould lea it in Canada. 45 00:04:50,490 --> 00:04:53,084 Ańesofevents happoned thatwewonderful. 46 00:04:53,126 --> 00:04:56,027 We had a radiostation and a muicdirectorin Cleveland, 47 00:04:56,062 --> 00:04:58,360 that lovedthe record and startedto play it. 48 00:04:58,398 --> 00:05:01,925 The program directorthe, Donna Halpor, intum, 49 00:05:01,968 --> 00:05:05,768 called afriend ofhers, CIBumstein, in Chicago, 50 00:05:05,806 --> 00:05:07,001 whowaat Mercury Record, 51 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,701 talkedto him about it, 52 00:05:08,742 --> 00:05:10,836 talked aboutthe respon that itwagetting. 53 00:05:10,877 --> 00:05:11,867 Hegotapy. 54 00:05:11,912 --> 00:05:13,505 Ijust putthealbum on 55 00:05:13,547 --> 00:05:15,982 and l wa blown awayfromthestart. 56 00:05:16,016 --> 00:05:17,677 I madesome inquińes, 57 00:05:17,717 --> 00:05:19,549 and bytheend oftheday we had ignedthe band. 58 00:05:19,586 --> 00:05:21,145 Inthepaceofaupleofmoh, 59 00:05:21,188 --> 00:05:24,783 wewefrom beingthi local barband, 60 00:05:24,825 --> 00:05:27,988 to having ahotattouńngwith Uńah Heep, atthetime, 61 00:05:28,028 --> 00:05:31,692 and RoryGallagher, and allthesegreat band 62 00:05:31,731 --> 00:05:33,756 thatwe looked upto and had so much respectfor. 63 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,896 Alexand l had startedwriting mateńal thatwa mo progressive, 64 00:05:37,938 --> 00:05:39,633 a little momplicated, 65 00:05:39,673 --> 00:05:44,167 and John Rutsey reallywan't io that kind ofmuic. 66 00:05:44,211 --> 00:05:46,703 Hewa moofa rock'n'roll puńst. 67 00:05:46,746 --> 00:05:49,010 So, changewa intheair. 68 00:05:49,049 --> 00:05:51,848 Johnwadiabetic, he hadjuvenilediabetes. 69 00:05:51,885 --> 00:05:56,254 Wewegettingveryńou abouttryingtonquerthe US. 70 00:05:56,289 --> 00:05:57,984 Whentheyweoutonthe road, 71 00:05:58,024 --> 00:06:02,052 heuldn'tpowith being onthat kind ofńgorouschedule. 72 00:06:02,095 --> 00:06:06,157 Theothertwoguyswould havedonethi fora long atheyuld, 73 00:06:06,199 --> 00:06:07,689 uiltheyweuccessful, 74 00:06:07,734 --> 00:06:10,965 and l'm notuJohn waquiteammitted atheywe. 75 00:06:11,004 --> 00:06:13,803 We'd poixyears playing inthi bandtogether 76 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:17,299 and building up thefoundation ofthe band, 77 00:06:17,344 --> 00:06:20,245 so itwa... itwaasad parting. 78 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:24,308 Sowestarted auditioning dmmmers 79 00:06:24,351 --> 00:06:27,252 intheummerof'74. 80 00:06:27,287 --> 00:06:30,120 Admmmerfriend ofmine, from mytown ofStCathańnes, 81 00:06:30,156 --> 00:06:32,818 recommended me aa possiblyuitabledmmmer 82 00:06:32,859 --> 00:06:35,726 and uggestedtheaudition, 83 00:06:35,762 --> 00:06:38,197 but l had no knowedge ofthe band ortheirmuic. 84 00:06:38,231 --> 00:06:39,562 He pulled out hidmm. 85 00:06:39,599 --> 00:06:42,967 He had double badmm, buttheyweverymall, 86 00:06:43,003 --> 00:06:45,631 themallestdouble badmm levern. 87 00:06:45,672 --> 00:06:47,902 Hethem up, and becau he'quiteatall guy, 88 00:06:47,941 --> 00:06:53,209 he behindthidmm and hejust looked huge behind it. 89 00:06:53,246 --> 00:06:56,079 And hestarted doingthesedmm roll with hi, 90 00:06:56,116 --> 00:06:58,210 and itjust blmeaway. 91 00:06:58,251 --> 00:06:59,912 Aerwe'd met, l reallywaed it. 92 00:06:59,953 --> 00:07:02,047 I lovedtheothertwoguys ńgaway, 93 00:07:02,088 --> 00:07:04,284 l loved ourion about muic, 94 00:07:04,324 --> 00:07:06,952 and ourha ie and nofhumour. 95 00:07:06,993 --> 00:07:08,358 Magic. 96 00:07:08,395 --> 00:07:11,490 Magic. uld it havegen any e 97 00:07:11,531 --> 00:07:15,934 They notonlygetthe benofaguywho, in m people'opinion, 98 00:07:15,969 --> 00:07:18,597 mesthe rockdmmmer, inthewoñd, 99 00:07:18,638 --> 00:07:21,471 but ia hell ofa lyńcist, awell. 100 00:07:21,508 --> 00:07:23,670 We madeourfirstalbumtogether, Fly By Nig, 101 00:07:23,710 --> 00:07:26,975 intheerof75. 102 00:07:27,013 --> 00:07:29,778 Sowetou madlyallthatfall, 103 00:07:29,816 --> 00:07:32,217 andthenwewe writing songalongtheway. 104 00:07:32,252 --> 00:07:36,189 Rigfromthegetgo, withthatfirstalbum ofthethofu n, 105 00:07:36,222 --> 00:07:37,849 we looked atsome longerpi, 106 00:07:37,891 --> 00:07:41,020 some plaweuld stretch outa little thatwa ljammy. 107 00:08:00,647 --> 00:08:02,513 Thatwaourfirstńme 108 00:08:02,549 --> 00:08:05,075 atwriting a piecothatwa made up ofdion 109 00:08:05,118 --> 00:08:08,816 thatweall kind ofgluedtogether, andtold astory. 110 00:08:08,855 --> 00:08:11,517 Andthat kind ofhourle. 111 00:08:11,558 --> 00:08:15,927 Through hi lyńand ourdesi tomplicatethe muic mo. 112 00:08:15,962 --> 00:08:20,695 Ifyou liked Yes, and you liked Genesi fortheirmpl, 113 00:08:20,734 --> 00:08:25,535 yetyou liked Blackbcath fortheirpower, 114 00:08:25,572 --> 00:08:28,337 then Ruh wathe po bandforyou. 115 00:08:43,356 --> 00:08:47,657 Thatummerof'75, acertain gelling cametogether. 116 00:08:47,694 --> 00:08:50,493 CaressSteel l , in retpect, waweird a hell, 117 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:52,294 butwe loved itso much. 118 00:08:52,332 --> 00:08:53,822 Itwaadarkrecord, 119 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:57,997 and ming Fly By Nig, 120 00:08:58,038 --> 00:09:00,564 itwajusta littletoo much, toon. 121 00:09:00,607 --> 00:09:02,507 We agreatdisappoime 122 00:09:02,542 --> 00:09:06,308 whenthe ofthewoñd didn'tha ourionforthat record. 123 00:09:06,346 --> 00:09:10,146 Weweoutontourerthat, iothefall of'75, 124 00:09:10,183 --> 00:09:12,948 andthingwe notgoingwell. 125 00:09:12,986 --> 00:09:14,545 Wewe havingtroublegetting dates 126 00:09:14,587 --> 00:09:16,885 and a lotofthemwe illended, 127 00:09:16,923 --> 00:09:19,893 and ourroad crewstarted calling it thedownhutour. 128 00:09:19,926 --> 00:09:22,554 Thewaagreatdeal ofpressu onthe band, 129 00:09:22,595 --> 00:09:25,064 fromthe record mpany, from manageme, 130 00:09:25,098 --> 00:09:28,864 totakeaupleste backand "thinkaboutwheyou'going, guys." 131 00:09:28,902 --> 00:09:32,133 I thinkthata lotofpeopleatthe label 132 00:09:32,172 --> 00:09:37,372 wencemedthatthe progress wan'tfastenough. 133 00:09:37,410 --> 00:09:39,003 Youwaaquickpay. 134 00:09:39,045 --> 00:09:42,345 And l thinkthatthewa, probably, 135 00:09:42,382 --> 00:09:45,511 some pressuon Ruh 136 00:09:45,552 --> 00:09:47,646 to me mommercial. 137 00:09:47,687 --> 00:09:49,246 AerCaressSteel cameout, 138 00:09:49,289 --> 00:09:51,087 andwan't mouccessful, 139 00:09:51,124 --> 00:09:53,525 Terry Brown and l actuallyfitoChicago 140 00:09:53,560 --> 00:09:55,358 and metwith Mercury Record, 141 00:09:55,395 --> 00:09:58,126 whowedecating whethertodropthe band ornot. 142 00:09:58,164 --> 00:10:01,293 We baicallycreatedtheaumption 143 00:10:01,334 --> 00:10:04,395 thatthe n record would be mommercial, 144 00:10:04,437 --> 00:10:06,599 andwould be lncept, ofu. 145 00:10:06,639 --> 00:10:07,902 AndwegotoutofChicago 146 00:10:07,941 --> 00:10:11,673 withthedeal ictforone mo record, 147 00:10:11,711 --> 00:10:12,940 breathed aigh ofli, 148 00:10:12,979 --> 00:10:15,949 then itwa uptoTerryandthe band whattheywegonnadeliver. 149 00:10:15,982 --> 00:10:19,976 Thewa reallyoneoftwodirection thatweuld goatthat poi, 150 00:10:20,019 --> 00:10:23,421 erwetou CaressSteel. 151 00:10:23,456 --> 00:10:27,188 Thatwaeithertogive in tothe pressuresortojustsay, 152 00:10:27,227 --> 00:10:28,695 "You kn, screwit." 153 00:10:28,728 --> 00:10:30,822 Wegot mad, wegotangry andthoug, 154 00:10:30,864 --> 00:10:33,561 "lfthi iourlasthot, we'gonnagive iteverything. 155 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:34,931 'E'gonnado itourway." 156 00:10:34,968 --> 00:10:37,437 Sowewe iothestudiototry 157 00:10:37,470 --> 00:10:41,407 to pothatwholeidelongthing one motime, 158 00:10:41,441 --> 00:10:43,739 andthatwhenthe2112 idea came up. 159 00:10:44,644 --> 00:10:48,808 The it i, the unmistableoponing of2112. 160 00:10:50,016 --> 00:10:52,610 Andthiwa Hugh me... 161 00:10:52,652 --> 00:10:55,587 playingńouyh paforu, 162 00:10:55,622 --> 00:10:59,422 andthen itwaall puttogether in allage, 163 00:10:59,459 --> 00:11:04,625 andwefinalisedthi iro forthe pieco. 164 00:11:04,664 --> 00:11:08,066 Andthenwemeoutofthat iothertu. 165 00:11:16,109 --> 00:11:19,875 Hewaa hugefan ofAyn Rand'writing, 166 00:11:19,913 --> 00:11:22,848 and he iu herwritingto u. 167 00:11:22,882 --> 00:11:26,284 Notluivelythat, he'avery, very broad reader. 168 00:11:26,319 --> 00:11:28,754 I had read, certainly, a lotofsciencefiction 169 00:11:28,788 --> 00:11:31,780 and muel R. Dolany waa big influenceon me. 170 00:11:31,824 --> 00:11:34,384 Aroundthesametime, l found apyofThe Fouinhead, 171 00:11:34,427 --> 00:11:37,761 and said, "Allthemart kidatschool usedtocarrythataround." 172 00:11:46,172 --> 00:11:47,697 Weall likedthe kAhem, 173 00:11:47,740 --> 00:11:51,540 which ithething that kind ofinpi 2112. 174 00:11:52,612 --> 00:11:56,480 Ahemwaa nlette thatAyn Rande 175 00:11:56,516 --> 00:11:59,918 l would say, roughly 1, 1, 176 00:11:59,953 --> 00:12:02,115 when hewa inthe middleofwriting The Fouinhead. 177 00:12:11,097 --> 00:12:16,433 And soAhem i baically thestoryofai 178 00:12:16,469 --> 00:12:19,166 taken rbya pńesthood 179 00:12:19,205 --> 00:12:21,697 oftotalitańan diors 180 00:12:21,741 --> 00:12:25,678 who u micimtotryand uboue allthe peopleofi. 181 00:12:25,712 --> 00:12:30,013 Which isollstic and sototalitańan 182 00:12:30,049 --> 00:12:35,146 thatthencept'l' ha been eliminated from people' mind. 183 00:12:35,188 --> 00:12:37,919 Theydon'teven havethencept'l', 184 00:12:37,957 --> 00:12:40,927 which meantheycan'tnceive ofthema inddual. 185 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:46,364 Thatwhole ideaofthe inddual and its libertańanlues 186 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:49,664 played a big role inthewaythatalbum haped up. 187 00:12:49,702 --> 00:12:51,534 I dreamed upthistory 188 00:12:51,571 --> 00:12:56,907 ofmuic being ied againstadopian, totalitańan i. 189 00:13:06,486 --> 00:13:08,614 I foitthigreatnofinjustice 190 00:13:08,655 --> 00:13:11,920 thatthi mawaming down on u andtelling utompromi. 191 00:13:11,958 --> 00:13:15,053 Mpromiwatheword that l uldn'tdealwith. 192 00:13:15,094 --> 00:13:19,497 I grewupachild ofthe', and l waastrong inddualist, 193 00:13:19,532 --> 00:13:22,797 and belioved inthesanctof, "You hould beabletodowhatyouwa." 194 00:13:22,835 --> 00:13:24,166 Without hurting anyone. 195 00:13:24,203 --> 00:13:27,173 When l realisedthatthestory wa parallelingAhem, 196 00:13:27,206 --> 00:13:29,174 l hadtosaysomething aboutAyn Rand 197 00:13:29,208 --> 00:13:31,302 andtheaiationwith 2112, 198 00:13:31,344 --> 00:13:35,008 so l put, 'ith acknowedgeme tothegeniuofAyn Rand." 199 00:13:35,048 --> 00:13:37,210 Hthatcame backonto u, erdl 200 00:13:37,250 --> 00:13:40,709 Wegot introublewiththe NME in Bin. 201 00:13:40,753 --> 00:13:43,779 Wedid an ieandthijoumalist... 202 00:13:44,691 --> 00:13:49,219 ...e it up likewewe Ni, uitra ńgng mania. 203 00:13:49,262 --> 00:13:53,358 Gng upaason ofHolocausturs, 204 00:13:53,399 --> 00:13:55,731 l foundthatjust... 205 00:13:56,736 --> 00:13:58,500 you kn, justsonive. 206 00:13:58,538 --> 00:14:02,372 ThennionwithAyn Rand dnitelywaa mediatum. 207 00:14:02,408 --> 00:14:05,400 Thewacertainlya... kind ofan aiation 208 00:14:05,445 --> 00:14:09,541 withthe'nm, 209 00:14:09,582 --> 00:14:11,516 the Mrthyyears. 210 00:14:11,551 --> 00:14:14,486 Allthist probably madethe mediathin 211 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,718 'ell, thi ijust not my kind ofband." 212 00:14:18,758 --> 00:14:22,956 And eventhough Randwa, and still itothiday 213 00:14:22,995 --> 00:14:25,225 arsialfigu, 214 00:14:25,264 --> 00:14:30,100 itdn't meanthat Neil believerything hesays. 215 00:14:30,136 --> 00:14:33,470 You don't haveto believe everything hesays 216 00:14:33,506 --> 00:14:36,908 to undend thatthea points inth 217 00:14:36,943 --> 00:14:40,573 thataworth ńounideion. 218 00:14:40,613 --> 00:14:42,103 Iaboutcreativeom. 219 00:14:42,148 --> 00:14:45,118 Iabout beli, belioving in you. 220 00:14:59,699 --> 00:15:01,497 Iagreat ln 221 00:15:01,534 --> 00:15:05,471 inwhatJph Campbell termed a"Follyourbli." 222 00:15:05,505 --> 00:15:07,667 You erlistentoyourown heart, 223 00:15:07,707 --> 00:15:11,337 you erdo whatyouthinki. 224 00:15:11,377 --> 00:15:14,711 I did notthinkofpoliti and global oppression, 225 00:15:14,747 --> 00:15:16,875 l wa... "These peoplea mingwith me." 226 00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:18,907 You can saywhatyouwa aboutAyn Rand 227 00:15:18,951 --> 00:15:21,249 and alltheotherimplication ofherwo 228 00:15:21,287 --> 00:15:27,021 but herartistic mano, forlackofa erterm, 229 00:15:27,059 --> 00:15:30,290 watheonethatstmckhome withthethofu. 230 00:15:34,167 --> 00:15:37,467 And incethiwa the 1S12 rtuforu, 231 00:15:37,503 --> 00:15:41,633 weuldn't resist butto pay homagetoTchai. 232 00:15:56,355 --> 00:16:00,258 We recorded atTorooSound Studi, whichwa mystudioatthetime. 233 00:16:00,293 --> 00:16:03,854 We'd doneallthe recordthe, itwajusta natural placetowork 234 00:16:03,896 --> 00:16:06,297 ltwa hi home and it becameourhome. 235 00:16:06,332 --> 00:16:09,962 Small, , yrol rocm, 236 00:16:10,002 --> 00:16:12,471 and a mode live rocm. 237 00:16:12,505 --> 00:16:16,100 We had a h upwhe Neil had hidmm inidethe h. 238 00:16:16,142 --> 00:16:21,137 Itwaalm likea littlee withinthestudiothat hewa up in. 239 00:16:21,180 --> 00:16:22,807 They baicallycame in and said, 240 00:16:22,849 --> 00:16:26,649 "He'the record, hcanwe make itg' 241 00:16:26,686 --> 00:16:30,919 We had kind ofches ofa lotofthat mateńal, 242 00:16:30,957 --> 00:16:34,860 butoncewegot inthestudiowith Terry, 243 00:16:34,894 --> 00:16:37,886 we put ittogether aa kind ofa unit. 244 00:16:37,930 --> 00:16:41,525 We recorded meverything thefiooraathpieco, 245 00:16:41,567 --> 00:16:47,006 and did anyrdu, l, and maybeguitarsol, erthefact. 246 00:16:47,039 --> 00:16:50,703 2112, the pieco , iso and sodirect, 247 00:16:50,743 --> 00:16:53,440 it'guitar, baand dmm, it' loud, angryguitars. 248 00:17:28,414 --> 00:17:32,476 I knthat...Templesofń.. 249 00:17:32,518 --> 00:17:33,986 Forme, aa listener, 250 00:17:34,020 --> 00:17:36,819 wa likethe heaviestthing l'd everheard in my l. 251 00:17:36,856 --> 00:17:39,553 Rtainlytheanger thattheguyscame inwith 252 00:17:39,592 --> 00:17:41,856 i inthitune, foru. 253 00:17:41,894 --> 00:17:45,353 The playing iveryaggressive and Ged'laveryaggressive, 254 00:17:45,398 --> 00:17:47,059 so l thinkweachiovedthat. 255 00:17:47,099 --> 00:17:52,435 Anger, thi determination, all ofthat i implicit inthe muic. 256 00:17:52,471 --> 00:17:54,337 Itwa buiit in, you kn. 257 00:17:54,373 --> 00:17:57,536 Anything uld be least likely to makeyou popularinthewoñd, 258 00:17:57,577 --> 00:17:59,909 but, someh, thatangerreached people. 259 00:18:07,653 --> 00:18:09,587 Unmistably Neil. 260 00:18:16,362 --> 00:18:18,626 And uplethatwith Ged' ba playing. 261 00:18:18,664 --> 00:18:21,656 The' nothing loppy aboutthe om end ofthi band. 262 00:18:21,701 --> 00:18:23,567 Andthat maa big dnce, 263 00:18:23,603 --> 00:18:26,470 becaueverything ontop its in a nice place, 264 00:18:26,505 --> 00:18:28,997 'cauthe om isowell dned and aue. 265 00:18:29,041 --> 00:18:30,907 Andthen, ofu, Alex 266 00:18:41,253 --> 00:18:42,414 Then, alltogether. 267 00:18:51,230 --> 00:18:56,566 Theuon 2112 waaboutthe lofinddual. 268 00:18:56,602 --> 00:18:59,970 And, kind of...state mle 269 00:19:00,006 --> 00:19:02,065 andtheoppression ofression. 270 00:19:02,108 --> 00:19:04,372 And, and... 271 00:19:04,410 --> 00:19:08,972 Tothee oftheinction ofmuic, baically. 272 00:19:09,015 --> 00:19:10,915 And sothat record 273 00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:14,909 iaboutaguydińng aguitar, 274 00:19:14,954 --> 00:19:17,616 thi lartctfrom aformerage. 275 00:19:17,657 --> 00:19:20,649 Sotheguitaridi inthe, 276 00:19:20,693 --> 00:19:22,752 withtheermnning inthe bacround. 277 00:19:22,795 --> 00:19:24,320 And it'ooulyoutoftune, 278 00:19:24,363 --> 00:19:26,991 it' beentheforhundofyears, 279 00:19:27,033 --> 00:19:29,024 andthestńngaold. 280 00:19:33,305 --> 00:19:37,435 Alexpic it upandwestarted with itoutoftune 281 00:19:37,476 --> 00:19:40,571 and hestatuning it and ping it iotune. 282 00:19:40,613 --> 00:19:43,275 And once he'got it intune, 283 00:19:43,315 --> 00:19:48,219 hesta playingthe irotothi pieco. 284 00:19:48,254 --> 00:19:50,188 So itwaall done in onetake. 285 00:20:36,268 --> 00:20:39,135 They hadtostep upa melodywriters 286 00:20:39,171 --> 00:20:41,868 and a... almaarchit. 287 00:20:41,907 --> 00:20:46,071 They hadtofiguoutaway to makethat piecostand on itsown 288 00:20:46,112 --> 00:20:48,444 and yet have pi inideofit. 289 00:20:48,481 --> 00:20:51,542 Weays beenverydemic inthe band. 290 00:20:51,584 --> 00:20:53,746 We liketohathe responibilities, 291 00:20:53,786 --> 00:20:57,017 Geddyand l writeallthe muic and Neilwritesthe lyń. 292 00:20:57,056 --> 00:21:00,686 Sothe'an ual n tothe partnership. 293 00:21:00,726 --> 00:21:05,163 A lotoftimes, the piecoofpapor withthewordon it maagreat map. 294 00:21:05,197 --> 00:21:10,135 I would beubmitting random lyńtothem atthattimeeañyon and later. 295 00:21:10,169 --> 00:21:15,733 He' reallymeto lyon myopinion a hieditor, in away, 296 00:21:15,775 --> 00:21:18,904 and he hagreatnideion ofthejobthat l havetodo 297 00:21:18,944 --> 00:21:21,606 aawriterofthe melodies and alist. 298 00:21:21,647 --> 00:21:24,207 The'stthatGeddy in'trtableinging, 299 00:21:24,250 --> 00:21:27,345 orhedn'tthe muic in it, that l do, 300 00:21:27,386 --> 00:21:30,185 ormaybeonlyfourlinesofit kto him. 301 00:21:30,222 --> 00:21:32,884 He hatolth lyń 302 00:21:32,925 --> 00:21:38,091 and he' notrtableinging something that he' notling. 303 00:21:38,130 --> 00:21:41,100 And l thinkNeil undendthat verycleañy. 304 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:04,215 In 2112, whenthe main character 305 00:22:04,256 --> 00:22:06,520 igoing upagainstthe pń, 306 00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:08,926 you'goingto havean uphill le 307 00:22:08,961 --> 00:22:11,987 and you'goingto bedealingwithfo thata biggerthan you, 308 00:22:12,031 --> 00:22:13,760 whothinkthe erthan you, 309 00:22:13,799 --> 00:22:17,633 and agoingtodoeverything theycanto keepyou in yourplace. 310 00:22:17,670 --> 00:22:21,868 Andthat, in an, alsothestoryofRuh. 311 00:22:21,907 --> 00:22:24,308 Sowe' heading iothe presoion n, 312 00:22:24,343 --> 00:22:30,112 wheourherota hi philphy, hi idea 313 00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:32,140 tothe pń... 314 00:22:33,419 --> 00:22:36,912 andthel i... 315 00:22:38,123 --> 00:22:40,558 very humble, l would say. 316 00:23:13,459 --> 00:23:16,759 Andthen, hortly, wegetthe plyfromthe pń, 317 00:23:16,795 --> 00:23:19,355 which iatotallyd, aggressiveapproach 318 00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:20,559 tothel delivery. 319 00:23:36,415 --> 00:23:39,544 Geddicewaonthe high ide, atthetime, 320 00:23:39,585 --> 00:23:43,954 and quite uniqueand d, and not particulañy radiendly. 321 00:23:43,989 --> 00:23:46,219 Rtofthe problem l had aa promotion man 322 00:23:46,258 --> 00:23:48,989 wa peoplesayingto me, 323 00:23:49,028 --> 00:23:53,226 "ThatGeddy Lee, you kn, l can'tstand hiice. 324 00:23:53,265 --> 00:23:54,790 'Howantsto hearth' 325 00:23:54,833 --> 00:23:58,235 Thefanweming out in d tothe band, 326 00:23:58,270 --> 00:24:00,329 butthe pressstill didn't reallyget it. 327 00:24:00,372 --> 00:24:02,363 I can memberreading st 328 00:24:02,408 --> 00:24:04,968 and itwahkingwhattheywould say. 329 00:24:05,010 --> 00:24:08,310 Geddice haays been astnh ofthe band, to me. 330 00:24:08,347 --> 00:24:12,147 Very high, very loud, veryfol. 331 00:24:21,093 --> 00:24:23,528 Itwan'tany mohkingto me 332 00:24:23,562 --> 00:24:27,055 than Robert plaoropora. 333 00:24:27,099 --> 00:24:29,625 Itwa, infact, some in-nthetwo. 334 00:24:29,668 --> 00:24:32,000 I foundthatquite ińguing. 335 00:24:32,037 --> 00:24:35,405 Wetooksomefaiñy harsh cicim, 336 00:24:35,441 --> 00:24:38,240 butweweyoung and undaued. 337 00:24:38,277 --> 00:24:39,972 Wejust ploughed ahead. 338 00:24:40,846 --> 00:24:44,009 O we' heading iotheGrand Finale. 339 00:24:44,049 --> 00:24:47,041 Whegoodtńumphrovil. 340 00:24:47,086 --> 00:24:50,920 Andwe' mnning a numberofguitars he, 341 00:24:50,956 --> 00:24:53,926 butwe baicallygotAl ignatuguitarsound, 342 00:24:53,959 --> 00:24:57,896 which iadoubletrack 343 00:24:57,930 --> 00:25:01,594 through Marshall am. 344 00:25:07,806 --> 00:25:11,003 I hadtwoguitars inthestudiowith me atthattime. 345 00:25:11,043 --> 00:25:14,445 An E, theGibson miustic hollbody, 346 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,142 oneofmyfirstgood guitars, 347 00:25:17,182 --> 00:25:20,550 and a bo Stocaster. 348 00:25:20,586 --> 00:25:21,917 Uldn'trd it. 349 00:25:39,638 --> 00:25:43,336 Inthe2112 retelling ofthestory, 350 00:25:43,375 --> 00:25:48,245 it'adar, modopianion. 351 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,148 He'a pdarkcharacter, i Neil. 352 00:25:52,184 --> 00:25:55,210 The' notellingwhatwagoing on in hi mind atthetime. 353 00:25:55,254 --> 00:25:59,748 I certainlydon'tthink hewouldwatojust rocreate... 354 00:25:59,792 --> 00:26:01,351 theAyn Rand story, 355 00:26:01,393 --> 00:26:03,361 lng happilyevererinthe mouin. 356 00:26:03,395 --> 00:26:08,526 Itwould have madea much ldramatic endingforuon a record. 357 00:26:08,567 --> 00:26:12,834 Theend ofthatstory ia littleambiguou, 358 00:26:12,871 --> 00:26:18,742 andthe'oouly somesortofwargoing on. 359 00:26:39,965 --> 00:26:42,195 Thatthegood guys, thatthelry, 360 00:26:42,234 --> 00:26:43,531 ming in attheend. 361 00:26:43,569 --> 00:26:46,800 So itactually, to me, had a happyending, a itwe, 362 00:26:46,839 --> 00:26:49,274 thattheSolarFedeion wagonna behutdown 363 00:26:49,308 --> 00:26:53,472 bytheionthatourhero ha ofthiotherwayoflng. 364 00:26:53,512 --> 00:26:56,504 Thethe peopleming attheend. That h l iended it. 365 00:26:56,548 --> 00:26:58,016 Whentheymetotheend 366 00:26:58,050 --> 00:27:00,985 andtheice igoing, 'e haveaumed rol," 367 00:27:01,019 --> 00:27:03,113 peoplewejustdelińou. 368 00:27:03,155 --> 00:27:05,385 I gu l wadelińoutoo. 369 00:27:05,424 --> 00:27:09,224 Itwaaboutthewholeepic, mothan anything. 370 00:27:09,261 --> 00:27:13,198 We haveaumed rol. We haveaumed rol. 371 00:27:18,036 --> 00:27:22,405 For2112, theyusedtheirambition, 372 00:27:22,441 --> 00:27:24,842 and in doingthat, 373 00:27:24,877 --> 00:27:28,871 they madea reallyfastic firstideofthe record. 374 00:27:29,214 --> 00:27:32,514 I thinkidetwoofthatalbum waaveryclearstateme 375 00:27:32,551 --> 00:27:35,020 thatwecanwritesong 376 00:27:35,053 --> 00:27:37,545 andwecanwritesong that peoplell ing alongto. 377 00:27:51,003 --> 00:27:56,100 Itwa kind ofa li fromthi20 minutesofien 378 00:27:56,141 --> 00:28:00,078 tofiipthechannel andtońme withtheotheridesofthe pan. 379 00:28:00,112 --> 00:28:02,911 Thewathi pressu- foit pressuany- 380 00:28:02,948 --> 00:28:06,441 fromtheotherguys to be ligerintone, 381 00:28:06,485 --> 00:28:08,453 andwritesomefunnysong. 382 00:28:08,487 --> 00:28:10,353 Yougot eTo ngk 383 00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:13,791 andthi i like, yeah, you kn, dmg. 384 00:28:13,825 --> 00:28:17,455 OThi iwhatwe liketodo. We liketoget high. 385 00:28:41,353 --> 00:28:43,845 We knwhatthatsong'about, don'twe, Neil? 386 00:28:43,889 --> 00:28:47,348 Itwathtimes, a lotofthing can only beapprociated inthe mome, 387 00:28:47,392 --> 00:28:51,420 but inthe mid-'7thewe thing likeThai sticming around. 388 00:28:51,463 --> 00:28:56,833 Sowethougwe hadto put in agood, strongtoke, atsome poi. 389 00:28:56,868 --> 00:29:00,827 Sothi lead iothesolo. l'll play itforyou. 390 00:29:43,081 --> 00:29:47,211 Wewejusttlling aroundthe US, and heańng abouttheseicthing. 391 00:29:47,252 --> 00:29:49,482 We'd neverbeen toanyofthese pla. 392 00:29:49,521 --> 00:29:53,321 Itwa reallyjustthinoftheic, thenofthe unknown. 393 00:29:53,358 --> 00:29:55,087 Itwa romaic, in away. 394 00:30:16,248 --> 00:30:21,084 And it i ieing h, whenwe played itonthe lasttour, 395 00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:25,784 hnotibletheatmphe became. 396 00:30:25,824 --> 00:30:29,192 We haveoneofthefinest, maromaticaudien 397 00:30:29,227 --> 00:30:31,025 you'll everfind in rock'n'roll. 398 00:30:54,986 --> 00:30:56,317 WefoittheligZone 399 00:30:56,355 --> 00:31:01,987 wa reallyoneofthe mcreative TVprogramilable. 400 00:31:02,027 --> 00:31:04,826 Andweweayshked that iteven gotontheair. 401 00:31:04,863 --> 00:31:07,161 Thewritingwacular, 402 00:31:07,199 --> 00:31:12,137 theual mpone ofeveryingleepie 403 00:31:12,170 --> 00:31:14,070 waso uniqueand sod. 404 00:31:14,106 --> 00:31:16,097 Rod Soñingwatmlyagreatartist. 405 00:31:16,141 --> 00:31:17,939 Hewouldtell theseminglyimplestońes 406 00:31:17,976 --> 00:31:21,105 buttheywould have uch a moralstand irony, 407 00:31:21,146 --> 00:31:22,443 based on human natu. 408 00:31:22,481 --> 00:31:25,007 Having Rod meout atthe beginning andtheend, 409 00:31:25,050 --> 00:31:28,384 doing hi littlethingwiththecigae, wajustsouporl. 410 00:31:28,420 --> 00:31:31,287 You heard oftrying tofind a needle in a hac 411 00:31:31,323 --> 00:31:34,384 well, staywith u n, and you'll be partofan iigatingteam 412 00:31:34,426 --> 00:31:36,986 who' miion i nottofind that pial needle. 413 00:31:37,028 --> 00:31:38,928 No, theirtakieven harder. 414 00:31:38,964 --> 00:31:41,558 Thegottofind a Martian in adiner. 415 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,466 Injusta mome, you'll rchwiththem, 416 00:31:43,502 --> 00:31:45,937 becauyoujust landed intheligZone. 417 00:31:45,971 --> 00:31:50,204 Andwewaedto pay respect 418 00:31:50,242 --> 00:31:52,176 bywriting asong. 419 00:31:52,210 --> 00:31:56,374 Wedidwatotrytocaptu theatmpheoftheha little. 420 00:31:56,415 --> 00:31:59,350 Ifyouch enough oftheh, sometimesthe pl... 421 00:31:59,384 --> 00:32:03,048 He ua kind ofdemeed nofhumour 422 00:32:03,088 --> 00:32:07,082 in someofthestońes andthenthe'aysthatlst. 423 00:32:07,125 --> 00:32:13,087 Thatsong haa particularlto it andtonal, 424 00:32:13,131 --> 00:32:17,591 thata little bit meńou and a littleñyand maround. 425 00:32:17,636 --> 00:32:21,334 Nd oflike moftheepies thatweched. 426 00:32:21,373 --> 00:32:25,276 U, Neil ma meion of a numberoftheepies inthe lyń. 427 00:32:25,310 --> 00:32:28,371 Thetwo na we probablyjustd enough 428 00:32:28,413 --> 00:32:32,316 and bńenough, that l uld getthem ioaingbleve. 429 00:32:57,976 --> 00:33:01,469 Theveaquite...quitejau. 430 00:33:01,513 --> 00:33:03,038 Ingthene. 431 00:33:03,081 --> 00:33:05,311 Thenwhenwegettothechom... 432 00:33:06,818 --> 00:33:09,116 wego iothiwhole, 433 00:33:09,154 --> 00:33:11,486 you kn, d mode, tonally. 434 00:33:11,523 --> 00:33:14,185 D kind ofkeystmctu. 435 00:33:14,226 --> 00:33:18,493 G ita bit moatmphe, a bit mo...mood. 436 00:33:22,033 --> 00:33:26,595 And itwafuntoththatwhiportrackin todoublethechoml. 437 00:33:30,108 --> 00:33:33,339 Theyays hadthedarkide mwiththe ligeride. 438 00:33:33,378 --> 00:33:35,870 That reallywhatwedone he. 439 00:33:44,856 --> 00:33:47,951 Ray nnielactually broug a record io Mercury. 440 00:33:47,993 --> 00:33:52,021 Weall inthence rocm and listenedto it. 441 00:33:52,063 --> 00:33:55,363 Thegeneralling inthecewa... 442 00:33:56,301 --> 00:33:58,030 'e' introuble." 443 00:33:58,069 --> 00:34:00,902 Thi ictlywhatwedon't need. 444 00:34:00,939 --> 00:34:02,236 Theywea bit pled, 445 00:34:02,274 --> 00:34:04,402 butthewesome people atthe record mpany 446 00:34:04,442 --> 00:34:08,572 thatactually kind ofgotachaeoutofit. 447 00:34:08,613 --> 00:34:12,607 I knthat... l uld dosomethingwiththi record, 448 00:34:12,651 --> 00:34:15,313 becau itwan'tactuallyall ncept, 449 00:34:15,353 --> 00:34:19,586 oneideofitwancept, theotheridewea bunch ofsong. 450 00:34:19,624 --> 00:34:22,821 U, 2112waavery, veryuccessful record 451 00:34:22,861 --> 00:34:24,351 and it boug uourom. 452 00:34:24,396 --> 00:34:28,594 Fromthatdayon, nobodyevergave uany kind oftrouble. 453 00:34:28,633 --> 00:34:33,833 Thatwathe recordthat really movedthe band ioad level. 454 00:34:33,872 --> 00:34:37,069 Thewa likeatńbal dmm being en 455 00:34:37,108 --> 00:34:40,669 throughoutthe NorthAmeńcan ine 456 00:34:40,712 --> 00:34:42,305 and itwadng peopletrd Ruh. 457 00:34:42,647 --> 00:34:46,379 Thewaalistic breakihrough on 2112 458 00:34:46,418 --> 00:34:48,910 that keptng. 459 00:34:48,954 --> 00:34:53,391 Itwaatimewhenthing like ba pedal yhesirsweming out, 460 00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:55,917 wejumped onthat, Geddy had a Minim. 461 00:34:55,961 --> 00:34:59,090 Andthey h started playing 12ńng elńand austi. 462 00:34:59,130 --> 00:35:02,361 I started getting keyrd, porcuion, and Temple bl, 463 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,462 and chimesand allthi kind ofst thatwould give u mosound. 464 00:35:06,504 --> 00:35:10,737 From 2112throughA Fall To ng and Hemipheres, 465 00:35:10,775 --> 00:35:14,507 thewadnitelyadevelopme, melodicallyand stmcturally, 466 00:35:14,546 --> 00:35:17,038 theywestill doingthe longerpi, 467 00:35:17,082 --> 00:35:19,676 buttheywealsostill ńmeing withthehorterones. 468 00:35:19,718 --> 00:35:23,450 But PermaneW, ith whatgreat listenerstheywe, 469 00:35:23,488 --> 00:35:28,324 becauyou uld hear thattheywetaking punk 470 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,886 and lled n rock veryńouly. 471 00:35:30,929 --> 00:35:33,557 The punkmme kicked the n mme, 472 00:35:33,598 --> 00:35:35,327 which grewioso manything, 473 00:35:35,367 --> 00:35:37,802 and broug in roggae muic and elronicdance muic. 474 00:35:37,836 --> 00:35:42,330 Soweweveryoponto it, wewe young enoughto be influen by it, 475 00:35:42,374 --> 00:35:44,103 andtochange. 476 00:35:44,142 --> 00:35:47,669 Thednce n 2112 and Moving Pictures 477 00:35:47,712 --> 00:35:49,510 istartling. 478 00:35:49,547 --> 00:35:53,279 2112 iaveryda hard rockalbum. 479 00:35:53,318 --> 00:35:58,085 You getto Moving pictures and you have roggae influen, 480 00:35:58,123 --> 00:36:00,785 and you can hearThe liceonthe. 481 00:36:00,825 --> 00:36:03,157 Hesirsa ple. 482 00:36:03,194 --> 00:36:08,394 And songastandlonestońes. 483 00:36:21,246 --> 00:36:25,706 Neil made Red rch ioathńlling littlehortfilm. 484 00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:30,745 Inufilm that have probably had le 485 00:36:30,789 --> 00:36:33,690 than i inthatsong. 486 00:36:33,725 --> 00:36:35,887 Thestory , calledA Nice Moming D, 487 00:36:35,927 --> 00:36:41,491 had been publihed in Rd &Track magineral years , 488 00:36:41,533 --> 00:36:43,592 andjuststuckin my mind. 489 00:36:43,635 --> 00:36:45,865 Thecar l loved atthetime, and still do really, 490 00:36:45,904 --> 00:36:49,636 ithe Feń 1 Mille Miglia rch. 491 00:36:49,674 --> 00:36:51,164 Rch, propoñy. 492 00:36:51,209 --> 00:36:56,739 Hejust hadthifayaboutatime when carswe notall. 493 00:36:56,781 --> 00:36:59,682 Wetellthi littlestory, thicautionarytale, 494 00:37:01,953 --> 00:37:05,253 about ingthecarpolice. 495 00:37:05,290 --> 00:37:07,952 Ialm likethe banned guitarfrom 2112, 496 00:37:07,992 --> 00:37:11,724 but it'a banned carand hefind it and ńdes itonthe higy. 497 00:37:11,763 --> 00:37:13,458 He'talking about, "Let havefun, 498 00:37:13,498 --> 00:37:17,230 "let putthe pedaltothe motal and whatthithing can do." 499 00:37:17,268 --> 00:37:21,796 The ofRed rch i... it'totallyacarsong. 500 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,242 Igotalltheihim and romaicim 501 00:37:25,276 --> 00:37:29,110 ofmuscularmachines, but it'a Ruh song. 502 00:37:29,147 --> 00:37:30,444 To me, it'aboutom, 503 00:37:30,482 --> 00:37:33,076 it'about hcan l getaway fromwhat happoning? 504 00:37:33,118 --> 00:37:37,555 When didwe lallthefun? When didwe lthepi 505 00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:41,184 Red rch, to me, wa like afigtogetthepi back 506 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,885 Nwe'gettingverycl tothesolo. 507 00:38:13,258 --> 00:38:16,228 Which staoutwith schingtiresand... 508 00:38:26,437 --> 00:38:28,872 leing guitarsound he. 509 00:38:28,907 --> 00:38:31,308 I being through averyhortdelay, 510 00:38:31,342 --> 00:38:33,936 so it ha averytunnel-likesoundto it. 511 00:38:45,890 --> 00:38:49,155 Neilwouldwritethe lyń in uchway that it"'uagainstthem" 512 00:38:49,194 --> 00:38:52,459 butthitime in afanpocar. 513 00:38:52,497 --> 00:38:54,659 Ithe muic thatcaes Red rch. 514 00:38:54,699 --> 00:38:58,499 Thestory ijustavehicleforit and GeddyandAlexrespondedtothat 515 00:38:58,536 --> 00:39:03,303 inthatn, to muically naethestory, 516 00:39:03,341 --> 00:39:05,810 and decoethestory, muically. 517 00:39:05,844 --> 00:39:07,471 Thatwhe itwauccessful. 518 00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:28,365 I don't knthatyou can reallyapprociatethi band 519 00:39:28,399 --> 00:39:30,527 you haven'tnthem live. 520 00:39:30,568 --> 00:39:36,371 Theseathguysthat make all ofthiraordinary muic, 521 00:39:36,407 --> 00:39:41,106 and you haveto beatuch a highthnical level... 522 00:39:41,145 --> 00:39:43,079 to pullthat. 523 00:39:43,114 --> 00:39:45,082 I hard enough inthestudio, 524 00:39:45,116 --> 00:39:49,075 but live, to pullthat, sayseverything aboutthem. 525 00:39:59,364 --> 00:40:02,163 Wa reallyiting forToroonian, 526 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,895 becau it'ourairte, 527 00:40:03,935 --> 00:40:07,997 and itwa maybe Ruh' nod toming home. 528 00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:10,201 Wewe in an airplane, fiying ioToroo, 529 00:40:10,241 --> 00:40:13,871 listeningtothe Moe, which i, theairt, 530 00:40:13,912 --> 00:40:16,074 and ljust... The ythm stuckin my head. 531 00:40:25,123 --> 00:40:29,856 Thatsong really began aa baand dmm a. 532 00:40:29,894 --> 00:40:32,295 Infact, l memberinthe heal hall, 533 00:40:32,330 --> 00:40:34,458 Neil and l pingthattracktogether, 534 00:40:34,499 --> 00:40:36,160 almwithoutguitar. 535 00:40:40,605 --> 00:40:44,542 I thinkAlexwaoutfiying hi motrolled airplanes. 536 00:40:44,575 --> 00:40:46,566 Neil and l we itchingtojustjam. 537 00:40:46,611 --> 00:40:49,137 We knit, we had put... 538 00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:52,172 jammed allthese momentstogether 539 00:40:52,216 --> 00:40:55,777 that kind ofkicked the beginning ofthatsong. 540 00:41:23,548 --> 00:41:26,574 Itgthem achancetostretch out 541 00:41:26,617 --> 00:41:29,518 and playanythingtheywould liketo. 542 00:41:29,554 --> 00:41:31,716 Wedidn't havetotake ionideion 543 00:41:31,756 --> 00:41:33,190 itwaa melodyrthetop, 544 00:41:33,224 --> 00:41:36,489 becauthe melodywaallen iothe paofthe instmmel. 545 00:41:36,527 --> 00:41:38,586 That pu, forthem. 546 00:41:38,629 --> 00:41:41,360 The' nothingtoully it orget intheway. 547 00:41:41,399 --> 00:41:44,198 I pu Ruh a muician. 548 00:42:01,185 --> 00:42:04,644 Waaysachallengeto play, 549 00:42:04,689 --> 00:42:08,057 andforthat reason alone, it iaueofours, 550 00:42:08,092 --> 00:42:11,460 becauyou ayswatol challenged wheneveryou' playing. 551 00:42:11,496 --> 00:42:15,626 Hestarted adding hi pato it and reallytookittoanotherlevel 552 00:42:15,666 --> 00:42:19,330 espeoiallywith someofthesolowork he putonthat, it'just magic. 553 00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:21,930 Theic natuoftl toAlguitarsolo, 554 00:42:21,973 --> 00:42:25,034 foru, he in that kind ofstem mode, 555 00:42:25,076 --> 00:42:26,976 which ganoftheic. 556 00:42:45,997 --> 00:42:47,658 Mingtotheend ofthesolo n, 557 00:42:47,698 --> 00:42:50,133 and iothe bńdge with alltheyh. 558 00:42:54,539 --> 00:42:58,271 AndwegotObeeim, ba pedal, 559 00:42:58,309 --> 00:43:01,006 O 560 00:43:01,045 --> 00:43:04,015 and somestńng. 561 00:43:06,684 --> 00:43:09,619 G ita nicefull sound forthe bńdge part. 562 00:43:14,392 --> 00:43:15,757 Allthegreat powertń, 563 00:43:15,793 --> 00:43:19,195 everygugotto hold up hi log ofthetń 564 00:43:19,230 --> 00:43:20,823 orthewholething lla. 565 00:43:20,865 --> 00:43:25,564 And each oneoftheseguys itecat holding up hiend. 566 00:43:25,603 --> 00:43:27,162 AlexLn i... 567 00:43:28,106 --> 00:43:31,371 he'dnitelythe rock'n'roll ofRuh. 568 00:43:31,409 --> 00:43:33,571 Gedd playingthesec ba lines, 569 00:43:33,611 --> 00:43:37,605 and Neil' likethe mad scieist inthe back 570 00:43:37,648 --> 00:43:39,514 The handofGod. 571 00:43:39,550 --> 00:43:41,416 Strong. Sostrong. 572 00:43:41,452 --> 00:43:42,886 He neverl up. 573 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,979 Hidmm solaaming. 574 00:43:45,022 --> 00:43:48,219 But l'm biased becau l ltheguy. 575 00:43:48,259 --> 00:43:50,819 But l listento hidmm solo every nig, 576 00:43:50,862 --> 00:43:53,126 and l nevergetti ofit. 577 00:44:19,657 --> 00:44:21,682 Weweaway intheummertime 578 00:44:21,726 --> 00:44:25,026 andwo onthe muic inthatummerof'79. 579 00:44:25,062 --> 00:44:28,726 And stayed ata hou intheury and itwajoyou. 580 00:44:28,766 --> 00:44:31,758 Wejust lovedthitotal immersion ofworkngtogether, 581 00:44:31,802 --> 00:44:35,830 having no responibilities, allwewe uptodowawritesong. 582 00:44:35,873 --> 00:44:38,433 Rything medtome lativelyquickiy 583 00:44:38,476 --> 00:44:40,444 and itwaveryiting. 584 00:44:40,478 --> 00:44:45,211 You can labourrsomething forhoursand hoursand hours, 585 00:44:45,249 --> 00:44:49,948 butwith Moving pictures, thewaa reallygood, itiveeney 586 00:44:49,987 --> 00:44:53,924 and a lotofit reallycametogether quitertably, 587 00:44:53,958 --> 00:44:55,926 andwith agreatdeal offun. 588 00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,591 The'asoundtothealbum which standout, awell. 589 00:45:00,631 --> 00:45:04,067 And l thinkit' meaignatusound. 590 00:45:04,101 --> 00:45:08,060 The'certainly the uofthe ba pedal 591 00:45:08,105 --> 00:45:09,971 atthe beginning ofTom er. 592 00:45:10,007 --> 00:45:12,305 Intermofyhesirs, 593 00:45:12,343 --> 00:45:15,176 thione iaignatusound 594 00:45:15,213 --> 00:45:18,945 that kind ofme to be ideedwiththe band 595 00:45:18,983 --> 00:45:21,577 andthi particularsong. 596 00:45:21,619 --> 00:45:25,817 Ithi big gy, lnd ba pedal sound 597 00:45:25,856 --> 00:45:27,984 whichwecreated on an Obeeim. 598 00:46:05,529 --> 00:46:10,057 The keyrd "'thing playsuch a big, importa part 599 00:46:10,101 --> 00:46:15,164 andthe ythm ofthedmm andtheway Neil i playingfromthe hip 600 00:46:15,206 --> 00:46:16,503 ivery, very importa. 601 00:46:23,981 --> 00:46:25,449 The mainthmstofthi poi 602 00:46:25,483 --> 00:46:28,976 watogetthedmmtrack ctlythewaywewaed it. 603 00:46:30,454 --> 00:46:33,480 Alexand Gedwould play inthestudio 604 00:46:33,524 --> 00:46:37,324 and a moral upportand aguidesforNeil. 605 00:46:37,361 --> 00:46:40,126 Give him alltheupport he needed. 606 00:46:40,164 --> 00:46:42,496 That ńg. And he'someupport n. 607 00:46:44,502 --> 00:46:46,493 Let putsomeguitarin. 608 00:46:46,537 --> 00:46:47,663 Alńg. 609 00:46:50,174 --> 00:46:52,370 Pthem all in. l l it. 610 00:46:52,410 --> 00:46:54,708 He' putathousand guitars in it. 611 00:46:57,181 --> 00:46:59,206 Whydon'twestńpthat backa little? 612 00:47:03,821 --> 00:47:07,724 Yeah, sothewaadles ofl onthisong. 613 00:47:15,466 --> 00:47:17,798 That kind ofmeinging in mykingice, 614 00:47:17,835 --> 00:47:20,998 whichwa raformeatthattime. 615 00:47:21,038 --> 00:47:23,507 Intheeañydays thewaa lotofsching 616 00:47:23,541 --> 00:47:26,101 and a lotofhigh-pitched, high eney. 617 00:47:26,143 --> 00:47:29,579 Atthie in ourcar, wewewriting mo melodies, 618 00:47:29,613 --> 00:47:32,844 and mo ieing melodies, and itenabled metoing lr 619 00:47:32,883 --> 00:47:35,284 andtoadd a little harmony heandthe 620 00:47:35,319 --> 00:47:38,345 andtrytofiesh out the eial ofmyice. 621 00:47:54,972 --> 00:47:58,567 That likeaquiial stonerahem, 622 00:47:58,609 --> 00:48:00,304 afara l'm ncemed. 623 00:48:00,344 --> 00:48:03,541 And it' partofthe... you kn, 624 00:48:03,581 --> 00:48:08,781 "Thewoñd i, thewoñd i Land ladeep." 625 00:48:08,819 --> 00:48:12,585 I like, "Oh, , man. Thataming." 626 00:48:12,623 --> 00:48:16,423 AndthattookRuhtoawholeotherlevel. 627 00:48:16,460 --> 00:48:18,827 The'awhole bunch ofpeople whojustsaid, 628 00:48:18,863 --> 00:48:22,731 "Yeah, man. That i my l." 629 00:48:22,767 --> 00:48:24,735 Justthtwo lines: 630 00:48:24,769 --> 00:48:28,706 "No, hi mind i notfor Toanygod orgmme." 631 00:48:28,739 --> 00:48:31,106 Thatsayslumesabout... 632 00:48:32,810 --> 00:48:37,043 whatwea rock'n'rollersaabout. 633 00:48:53,931 --> 00:48:58,664 Westood upagainstthegmme inthe', 634 00:48:58,702 --> 00:49:03,071 westood upagainstoanised ligion 635 00:49:03,107 --> 00:49:06,407 whilewewedropping acid totrytofind God. 636 00:49:19,156 --> 00:49:22,956 Tom er, fora hitsong, waoddlyeeńeand dark 637 00:49:22,993 --> 00:49:25,291 Thesong Tom er 638 00:49:25,329 --> 00:49:29,425 ia hugestapleon rockradio. 639 00:49:30,801 --> 00:49:34,499 We'll be playing Tom er a long athe i rockradio. 640 00:49:34,538 --> 00:49:36,529 OoulyTom er'their... 641 00:49:38,542 --> 00:49:41,239 ...Hotel Calmia, ortheirhemian Rhay. 642 00:49:41,278 --> 00:49:43,747 Thattheirignatusong. 643 00:49:58,863 --> 00:50:00,456 Westillthinkit'awonderfulthing 644 00:50:00,498 --> 00:50:03,593 thatuch a bsong uld beso popular. 645 00:50:03,634 --> 00:50:06,001 Thatalone ia miracleto u. 646 00:50:06,036 --> 00:50:09,802 Andthefactthat it itheonethat ha endu in people' memońes 647 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,866 ince 1, it'asong they memberfromtheirummer. 648 00:50:12,910 --> 00:50:18,371 Tom erbecametheahemictrack.. 649 00:50:19,617 --> 00:50:21,278 That Ruh needed 650 00:50:21,318 --> 00:50:27,519 to me mothan the biggestcuit band...inAmeńca, 651 00:50:27,558 --> 00:50:31,927 meactuallya band ofma popularance. 652 00:50:32,029 --> 00:50:34,964 That pońod, inthe late'7, going io Moving Pictures, 653 00:50:35,232 --> 00:50:37,599 weweuddenly ming much mo popular, 654 00:50:37,635 --> 00:50:40,161 andthewegreaterdemand pla upon u. 655 00:50:40,204 --> 00:50:43,504 We had kind ofme toa nlevel offandom 656 00:50:43,541 --> 00:50:47,603 andwe had nkind of enuerswithfan. 657 00:50:48,412 --> 00:50:50,437 Thiwavery unrtableforNeil. 658 00:50:50,481 --> 00:50:53,507 Hetńedto makenofit in lyń, 659 00:50:53,551 --> 00:50:55,986 andtńedtolain hi poiof. 660 00:51:12,937 --> 00:51:15,235 He'saying, whatctlydthi mean? 661 00:51:15,272 --> 00:51:19,140 And hdo l make somesortoftmcewith it, 662 00:51:19,176 --> 00:51:24,046 sothat l'm approciating thegoodthingthatmewith it, 663 00:51:24,081 --> 00:51:26,743 and l powiththething thata kind ofannoying? 664 00:51:26,784 --> 00:51:28,013 I usedtogoTheWho, 665 00:51:28,052 --> 00:51:30,885 but l would neverhavedreamed ofhanging around bace 666 00:51:30,921 --> 00:51:34,482 orchaingthemtotheirhotel, nevermind goingtotheirhomes. 667 00:51:34,525 --> 00:51:38,393 I wahkedtothat kind ofbehaviour, peoplechaing uaround, 668 00:51:38,429 --> 00:51:40,796 and peoplemingto my hou. 669 00:52:07,024 --> 00:52:12,190 I likethefactthatsomeofoursong discuthesethingoponly 670 00:52:12,229 --> 00:52:15,426 and giveyou pau, you kn. 671 00:52:15,466 --> 00:52:18,094 "Lng inthe limelig The univel dream." 672 00:52:18,135 --> 00:52:21,867 You mso many people thatdream ofnothing el, 673 00:52:21,905 --> 00:52:23,498 but beingfamou. 674 00:52:23,540 --> 00:52:27,374 But lng itand dreaming ofit atwodthing. 675 00:52:27,411 --> 00:52:31,348 Thatwhatthesong says, thatthelidofthesong, 676 00:52:31,382 --> 00:52:32,850 from a univel poiof, 677 00:52:32,883 --> 00:52:36,877 notjust Neil' ponal lingwithfame. 678 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,218 I wouldn'twato befamou, l waedto begood. 679 00:52:39,256 --> 00:52:40,621 Thatawholeotherthing. 680 00:52:40,658 --> 00:52:44,595 Iquite ieingthat hee it thi record cameout. 681 00:52:44,628 --> 00:52:48,531 Hee itforthealbum which actually made itmetme. 682 00:52:48,565 --> 00:52:50,158 And l thin muically... 683 00:52:51,235 --> 00:52:54,466 thatsong hasome utl uand down. 684 00:52:54,505 --> 00:53:00,467 Iverycinematic inthat it' lig intheve 685 00:53:00,511 --> 00:53:03,071 which, l thin , 686 00:53:03,113 --> 00:53:05,605 sortof, thejoyofwhatwewedoing, 687 00:53:05,649 --> 00:53:08,277 andthenthe bńdgesand chom 688 00:53:08,318 --> 00:53:12,846 we much mo lonme. 689 00:53:12,890 --> 00:53:16,417 Andthenthesolo, ofu, ioneofmyues 690 00:53:16,460 --> 00:53:19,327 and it hathat kind ofcharacterto it 691 00:53:19,363 --> 00:53:23,596 ofit' hauing andvery lonely, 692 00:53:23,634 --> 00:53:25,602 and it' kind ofingular. 693 00:53:25,636 --> 00:53:27,764 Wewaedtome up with something d, 694 00:53:27,805 --> 00:53:32,936 herthanjust ping astkguitarsolo rthifabuloutrack 695 00:53:32,976 --> 00:53:36,810 Sowepoa lotoftime andAlexcame upwith somegreat idea 696 00:53:36,847 --> 00:53:40,977 andwestmngthem alltogetheriothesolo thatyou hearonthe record. 697 00:54:10,114 --> 00:54:14,915 We putallthe pitogether onthetunesfor Moving Pictures, 698 00:54:14,952 --> 00:54:17,216 it becameveryoou, l thin 699 00:54:17,254 --> 00:54:20,884 thatthewasomething happoning he thatwaoutofourrol 700 00:54:20,924 --> 00:54:24,360 andwacertainlythe we'd done. 701 00:54:24,394 --> 00:54:29,264 Thesound ofitandthe poption oftheeneyonthat record 702 00:54:29,299 --> 00:54:30,926 edthat pońod oftime. 703 00:54:30,968 --> 00:54:33,335 Itmedto bethe ńg place, the ńgtime 704 00:54:33,370 --> 00:54:35,805 with somesong thatnnedwith people. 705 00:54:35,839 --> 00:54:39,469 Wejust madea recordthatwe liked, thatwhatwedid everytime. 706 00:54:39,510 --> 00:54:43,071 But, uddenly, justall ofthestarswealigned. 707 00:54:43,113 --> 00:54:47,516 I certainly knthatwhateverhapponed fromthat momeon, 708 00:54:47,551 --> 00:54:50,316 wewould neverbegoing back towhewecamefrom. 709 00:55:53,817 --> 00:55:56,286 Unlike m band who kind ofget it ńgonce, 710 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,847 which iagreatthing - you get it ńgonceyou'doingfabulou. 711 00:55:59,890 --> 00:56:01,324 Theygot it ńgce. 712 00:56:01,358 --> 00:56:06,057 Thathe benchma, and l thinkthat2112 and Moving Pictures 713 00:56:06,096 --> 00:56:08,155 athealbumthatdnedthem. 714 00:56:08,198 --> 00:56:10,360 The in'ta prog rockband 715 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,928 thatdn't live inthe hall Ruh buiit. 716 00:56:14,972 --> 00:56:18,169 Theydid allthe , allthetimeignatures, 717 00:56:18,208 --> 00:56:21,007 and all ofu just lookatthe manual. 718 00:56:21,044 --> 00:56:25,743 When you msomebodythatyou haveemhywith and you canworkwith, 719 00:56:25,782 --> 00:56:29,241 it maallthednce intheworkthatyou putout. 720 00:56:29,286 --> 00:56:32,415 Theyjustworkreally, reallywelltogether, and ays have. 721 00:56:32,456 --> 00:56:38,361 Itwaagreatńence to bea partofthalbum, 722 00:56:38,395 --> 00:56:42,263 andforthe markthatthe l. 723 00:56:42,299 --> 00:56:46,031 Ruh all along ha beentrying to makethe muicthatwe l. 724 00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:47,969 That itheimplestression. 725 00:56:48,005 --> 00:56:50,064 Thenwe hopothatotherpeople mig like ittoo. 726 00:56:50,107 --> 00:56:53,975 Oneofthething l really l about being in Ruh, 727 00:56:54,011 --> 00:56:57,470 thatwe' notidtodoanything on a record, 728 00:56:57,514 --> 00:57:00,347 and even it' sometimesateble mistake, 729 00:57:00,384 --> 00:57:03,649 the'stillthellingn tońme. 730 00:57:03,687 --> 00:57:07,624 I thinkthatwhythethofu havestayedtogether, 731 00:57:07,658 --> 00:57:12,528 becauwelwithinthenflnesofRuh wecantryalmanything. 54453

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