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POUNDING ON DOOR
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FARID: Jo!
KNOCKING CONTINUES
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Jo, it's me!
KNOCKING
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DOORBELL RINGS
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KNOCKING
Jo, can you let me in?!
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Jo, I know you're in there.
I see the lights.
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Come on, Jo!
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Jo!
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Jo, I just wanna know
that you're OK, please.
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Fuck.
OFFICER: Sir?
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FARID: Is everything OK?
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Is she hurt?
OFFICER TISDALE: Sir?
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- Whoa, whoa, whoa. Is Jo OK?
- Stay back.
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- Is she all right?
- Hey, sir!
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This is private property.
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No, this is my girlfriend's house.
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I'm just checking in on her.
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I'll have to ask you
to vacate the premises.
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You're not listening.
She might be in danger.
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- She's not...
- Listen to me, OK?
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Somebody threatened her.
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OK? She could be hurt.
OK? She could be...
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Look, I gotta talk to her.
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KNOCKING
She's fine, Mr Matar.
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What?
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Ms Quarry called us.
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She told us that her ex-boyfriend
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was outside the home,
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threatening her,
trying to get inside.
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Would that be you?
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POLICE RADIO CHATTERING
This is ridiculous.
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OK? I'm not leaving
until I talk to her.
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Jo! Jo, please...
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This is Officer Tisdale
requesting back-up
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at 116 McArthur Road.
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- Jo! Fuck!
- I'll give you one last chance.
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Jo, come on, Jo! Jo, it's me!
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- Leave now!
- Jo! Jo, come out! Please!
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TISDALE: Hey! I fucking warned you.
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HANDCUFFS CLICK
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DISTANT SIREN
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DISTANT CAR HORNS BLARE
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'Hey, it is Wednesday, February 3rd.
My name is Tom Power.
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'My guest is Farid Matar,
who is the co-creator'
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and voice behind the hit
true crime podcast Unsettled.
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The first episode of
the second season, "Briddus",
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debuts a week from today,
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and it tells the story
of the Chaffey murders,
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which took place in small-town
Newfoundland in 1989.
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Farid, thanks for being here.
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Thanks so much for having me, Tom.
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I am very much not a fan
of true crime,
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but I absolutely loved the first
season of your podcast.
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Your storytelling is beautiful,
through soundscapes.
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I couldn't stop listening.
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Well, thank you.
That's so great to hear.
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Um, my co-creator, Jo, she does
all the Foley work herself.
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She's incredible.
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You picked an
interesting story here,
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the Chaffey family - a couple
and their three children
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found brutally murdered
at their home.
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What happens to you when
you deal with a story like that?
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Uh... it was challenging.
It was, uh...
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hard fieldwork, that's for sure.
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Yeah, Newfoundland winters
are not easy.
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You never really know
what you're gonna get.
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No, no. Yeah, but I'm really
happy we pushed through.
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It was an important story
I really wanted to tell.
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Why? Why the Chaffeys?
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Well, initially, we were interested
in this phenomenon
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that was spreading
throughout Canada in the '80s.
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- Oh yeah, Satanic Panic.
- Yeah,
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and how it had the power
to ignite the average,
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rational thinking person's
imagination so vividly
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that they would start to believe
in the occult, in the devil.
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TOM: Yeah, I actually remember this
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from when I was growing up
in St. John's,
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there were people
who really believed
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the devil was at work.
FARID: Yeah, yeah.
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And so, ordinary people
are suddenly finding
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these spiritual reasons
for these different occurrences
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that are happening
all over Canada.
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You know, they're treating
each other suspiciously,
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they're scared.
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And what we wanted to know was,
was this particular murder
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that ruined a once prosperous
little town
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really the product of Satanism?
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TOM: And?
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And...
FARID SIGHS
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I think, at the end of the day,
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this is a story of a man...
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..Matthew Chaffey...
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..who killed his entire family
and then himself.
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And we were way
more intrigued by this than...
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..superstition and fantasy.
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What drives a man to
annihilate his entire world?
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To go against the very nature
of his being,
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and end his own life?
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It's the more
important conversation.
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You know, it may have been 1989,
but this is relevant now,
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and it's imperative that we
continue this discussion.
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TOM: Of mental health?
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Yeah. Mental health ignored.
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TOM: Well, Farid,
thank you so much for coming in.
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Farid Matar is the co-creator
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and voice
of the hit true crime podcast.
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'It's called Unsettled.
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'Farid Matar was my guest
in studio.'
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WATER RUNNING
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SOBS
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PHONE RINGS
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MARTHA'S ANSWERPHONE:
'You've reached Martha Quarry.
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'Leave a message.'
PHONE BEEPS
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PIANO PLAYING
'GOLDBERG VARIATIONS'
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PIANO CONTINUES
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CONTINUES PLAYING
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STOPS PLAYING
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PHONE VIBRATES
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Hello?
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JO: 'I'm sorry.'
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Jo?
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I overreacted.
You were only trying to help.
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I fucked up.
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'Do you forgive me?'
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Jo, I...
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JO: 'I'm sorry.'
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I love you.
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FARID: 'I love you, too.'
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God, I miss you.
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Oh, my God, I miss you.
I have so much to tell you.
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FARID: 'How are you feeling?'
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Good. Better, I think.
SIGHS
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I mean, I feel sad
for what happened to her.
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FARID: 'Your mom?'
And Rose.
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Who's Rose?
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FARID: 'She's my grandmother,
Farid.'
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She's my mother's real mother.
I figured it all out.
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She was raped, and it triggered
her schizophrenia,
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and then she got pregnant,
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my family didn't know what to do,
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so they just put her in a room
upstairs in the attic,
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and I found it, and then,
they took her baby away
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and they gave it to her sister,
and they replaced it
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with a fucking doll,
and that baby...
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she was my mom.
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'And she was sick
because her parents were sick.
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'That guy,
that rapist was sick, too.'
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And my poor mom
spent her entire life
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not knowing why
this was happening to her,
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and her family could have helped.
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They could have
given her some sort of peace,
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but instead they just...
they just rejected her,
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they just called her crazy.
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My God, she was so alone,
Farid, just like Rose.
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And they both killed themselves
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because they were sick,
and they had no-one.
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- 'Jesus...'
- I know.
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How do you know all this?
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My mom told me. And Rose.
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My mom left me those tapes.
She could hear Rose, too.
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'Jo...'
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I heard Rose hang herself.
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I can show you the mark.
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Can I come there?
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JO: 'Yeah. Yes, come. Oh, my God.
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'I can show you my mom's tapes,'
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everything that she put
together, and the room.
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My God, Farid,
I can show you the room.
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I think that this
could be our next season -
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my family, their crime,
this secret.
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What do you think?
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'I will...'
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be there in the morning, OK?
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JO: 'No, don't be silly.
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'Just finish up in Newfoundland
and then come.'
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'Hello?'
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I'm not in Newfoundland, Jo.
I'm back.
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No, you're not.
I just spoke to you.
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'We haven't spoken in a month.'
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Wait. What are you talking about?
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FARID INHALES
SHARPLY, SIGHS
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Farid?
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'I came to the house
two weeks ago.
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'I knocked on the door for ages.
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'You wouldn't come out.
You... you called the cops on me.'
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Wait. What are you doing?
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'You told them
I was your ex-boyfriend
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'and that you were
scared for your life.
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'They said, if I didn't leave,
that they'd arrest me.
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'Jo, I didn't know
what else to do.
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'Jo, you still there?'
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Jo?
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SIGHS
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DOOR CREAKS
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BREATHING UNSTEADILY
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BANGING
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No!
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No!
RAGGED BREATHING
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LIGHT BUZZES
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BREATHING SHAKILY
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JO SOBS
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STAIRS SQUEAK
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LIGHT BUZZES
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BUZZING STOPS,
JO GASPS
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FOOTSTEPS APPROACHING
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BREATHING
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Rose?
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THUD,
JO GASPS
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LIGHT CRACKLES
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GLASS BREAKS,
JO CRIES OUT
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RAPID BANGING
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BABY CRYING
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BANGING,
BABY CRYING
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JO HYPERVENTILATES
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BANGING,
DOOR KNOB RATTLING
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BANGING
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TAPE RECORDER CLICKS
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MARTHA: 'Rose?
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'Mom?
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'I'm ready.
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'They took me from you.
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'A mother should be with her child.
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'A mother should be with her child.'
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JO SOBS
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'I love you, Jo.
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'Goodbye.'
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TAPE RECORDER CLICKS
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PILLS RATTLING
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WINDSHIELD WIPERS
WHOOSHING
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'EILEEN AROON' PLAYS
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# Far in the valley shade #
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# I met a quiet maid
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# Flower of the hazel glade
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# Eil... #
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FOOTSTEPS APPROACHING
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DOOR CREAKS
Jo?
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Jo?
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Jo?
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STAIRS SQUEAKING
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Hey, Jo?
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Jo, you here?
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Jo, it's me.
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Jo!
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JO!
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JO: 'It's poison...
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'these pills they want me to take.
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'Medicine? Poison.
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'It's them. I know it.
They want the house.
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'I saw them last night
and the night before.
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'They wait in the woods, watching.'
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TAPE SPOOLS
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'It's slipping from me.
I've lost control.
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'I go and I come back...
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'I'm scared.
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'It's starting to sink in,
my mother's sadness.
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'She gave me it, her hurt.
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'I was born with her inside me.
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'I was destined to repeat.'
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FLOOR CREAKS
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JO: 'I had no choice.'
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TAPE RECORDER CLICKS
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BIRDSONG
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You're going to be OK, Jo.
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ACCAPELLA VOICE:
# When, like the early rose... #
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CAR DOOR CLOSES
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# Eileen Aroon
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# Beauty in childhood grows
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# Eileen Aroon. #
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DOOR CLOSES
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We set out tonight, together,
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on this mission...
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..and whatever the outcome,
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whatever we may or may not find...
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..I would like us all to remember
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the strength that
always walks with us,
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strength that derives
from our faith,
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and strength that, if we allow it...
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..may conquer all our fears.
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Hold fast to your faith.
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"I will not doubt,
though all my ships at sea
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"come drifting home
with broken masts and sails.
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"I shall believe
the Hand that never fails
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"from seeming evil
worketh good for me..."
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SEARCH PARTY: Beth?
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MAN: Beth?
WOMAN: Beth?
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SEARCH PARTY: Beth?
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MAN: Beth?
WOMEN: Beth?
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"...And though I weep
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"because those sails are battered,
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"still will I cry,
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"while my dearest hopes
lie shattered...
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"..I trust in thee."
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CHILD: I love you, Mommy.
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