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I'm getting quite good at dying.
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Mostly that's me in a bed, in a hospital,
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looking pasty and terrified and tetchy.
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They expect you to be tetchy.
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Like, I had PCP for a single on Channel 4.
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Pneumocytis Pneumonia. Horrible job. Take after fucking take.
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The director comes to me, Dan his name is. He said,
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"We need to see more... anger, yeah?"
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I said, "Why?" He just looks at me, like it's obvious,
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"Because the government are doing nothing, yeah, there's no funding,
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and these fuckin iceberg films they have on telly now,
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it's fucking criminal."
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I said, "I thought my character would probably be past anger by this stage.
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I'd probably be thinking much more practical things like is this going to hurt?
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Or will it be over quick?
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What would I have done with my life if I'd lived?
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Maybe.
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Could I have done things differently, been more careful,
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made different choices."
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Anyway he wanted anger so... Whoo! He got anger.
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I channelled the anger I was feeling towards him and that helped.
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This is a key skill.
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Some actors can't draw on themselves, their experiences.
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I can.
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Though obviously I'm not dead yet so I've been having to make that up.
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Then after that, I did a film where I get stabbed by a serial killer
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who's picking on gays for some unknown reason
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but obviously that was just a metaphor.
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When the police finally catch him, even he doesn't know why he does it.
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I saw that when it went out, at the Curzon,
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and I could hear quite a few people
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sobbing in the audience when I pegged it.
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I got a bit tearful myself, actually.
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See, it's the face. I look young and innocent.
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So you're immediately thinking, "What a waste."
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So I get the parts, I reckon.
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The uh...
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The scene I'm really good at
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is the death bed scene where the boyfriend shows up.
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More often than not, I'm doing well health-wise when the complications hit
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so the sudden deterioration's a surprise, for both of us.
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He's sometimes older. Not always.
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Cute, obviously, but there is an awkwardness between us.
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It's not actually said, but...
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you get the vague sense that he's been messing about in saunas and toilets
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and not taking precautions, while I, of course, have been faithful as a puppy.
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So then there's the injustice of it too.
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I have a bit of a barney with him but I'm generally forgiving.
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I just go a bit arch, you know.
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Got my sparky sense of humour right to the end.
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Oh!
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I had lunch with my agent
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and she's dead pleased I'm working and so am I, but...
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it's getting a bit samey.
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I don't feel like I'm moving forward, you know.
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She reckons I should be grateful.
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"You're really grabbing at their heartstrings, Phil, really making an impact."
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I just worry they're gonna get sick of the sight of me.
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"Him again. Dying. Again." She wasn't having it.
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"Characters you get are pivotal, Phil, pivotal.
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"Everything around you changes once you're..."
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Gone. Yeah.
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I said it's awfully nice that my friends get really, really upset when I'm dead,
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and then kind of reassess their priorities and stuff.
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I just wish I made it past page eighteen.
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She said, "You get the full fee."
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I said, "That's not the point."
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Still, it's work.
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She said there might be a role playing a bat thing on Doctor Who.
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"Do they still make Doctor Who?" I said.
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"Apparently, yeah".
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Plus a bit part in an indie film.
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English mourner at funeral in New York.
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"Can you do grieving?" I said, "... probably."
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Truth is I don't have much to draw on, there. I've been lucky.
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I know what it looks like, though.
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I've seen it,
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seen it often enough, too often.
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Brr, horrible.
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Then out of the blue, she asks me
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if I get tested.
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I said, "It's none of her business."
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I don't, as it happens.
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I couldn't face it. I'd sooner not know, I'm just not strong enough.
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It is possible to not get it if you're careful.
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And by 'careful', I don't mean bloody celibate or monogamous.
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I fucking love sex, me...
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Bum sex mainly.
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But there is an underrated beauty
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to blowing a total stranger in a toilet cubicle that's hard to convey.
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And if you try to convey it,
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it gets boring or icky quite quickly, so...
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no squatting on your haunches, knees must hit the floor, and eye contact throughout.
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Ooh! Ah!
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I could be blowing someone now if it weren't for this bloody 'death scene'.
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Agent's promised she'll get me a role that doesn't involve losing half a stone
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and whiting the face up, so... fingers crossed.
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I quite like doing 'coming out' scenes,
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though even there death crops up pretty quickly.
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I did a play where I was Liverpudlian.
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So it was dead bitter but really funny, like corrosively funny.
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The mother's mopping the floor and I drop the bombshell.
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We have a row, I throw in,
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"What d'you want me to do, get married and be unhappy?"
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She comes back with, "Why not, that's what I bloody did."
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Mother gets the best lines. The gay boy is the feed.
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Then of course, she realises I'm not done with the bombshells
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and the full horror of her situation dawns on her.
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Her little Billy, gay and dead, in quick succession.
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'More than a poor girl's heart can take.'
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The upshot is she loses her faith.
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That was at the Finborough, so while she's rowing with the bishop at the funeral
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I slip out early and get down the Coleherne.
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There's a bloke goes there some nights, Simon. Fucking...
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[EXHALES] The legs. Dancer's legs.
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And sorry, I actually am a size queen, I make no apologies.
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Simon...
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fits the bill.
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The best fuck ever.
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I've kind of got a top top ten in my head
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and for a long time it was a guy I met in Portsmouth at number one,
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but Simon has knocked him off the top top spot.
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Dead fit. Proper man.
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Nice enough bloke as well, sense of humour.
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I don't normally talk to blokes down the Coleherne
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'cause it risks breaking the spell, but uh...
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hasn't broken Simon's spell.
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Agent called yesterday, got me an audition for a T.V., new soap.
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Gay character called 'Clive', who isn't ill
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and according to the man at the beeb, never gets it.
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It's actually in the contract, just... has a life,
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has the same kind of plot lines as the other characters
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but 'from a gay perspective.'
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So that'd be progress. And if I got it.
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He's also not camp, which is fairly important.
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Not that I can't do camp, but the days of Mr. Humphreys are over.
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Lads at school used to take the piss when that programme was on.
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Not of me. I'm not naturally camp but I can go quite blokey, in fact.
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I should get put up for more straight roles really.
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I did play 'angry shopper' in Albion Market,
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but, it wasn't established whether he was gay or straight so... doesn't count.
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Nor does the bat thing on Doctor Who, not really.
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No, Clive isn't camp, but he's not blokey, either.
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He's... sensitive,
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takes life seriously and may appear guarded when we first meet him.
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But underneath, he's warm, emotional
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and soon becomes a popular member of the local community.
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[LAUGHS] I can play Clive standing on me head.
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"Oh, so now it's my fault is it."
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"Oh, so now it's my fault is it?"
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"Oh, so now it's my fault is it?"
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Oh!
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Clive is the most boring man ever presented on a TV screen, seriously.
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Fretful fucking creep.
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Not camp, no. No sense of humour whatsoever.
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I've got this beige boyfriend like Clive Mark Two,
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only taller with a pierced ear.
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And the fucking hugging we get up to, oh scandalous.
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I can't get ill, obviously, of anything.
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The fucker isn't even allowed to cough.
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Plot line at the moment where I turn out to be fiddling my tax returns.
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So me and the boyfriend can 'build a beige life together'.
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I had thought fiddling the tax might lead to a prison story,
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which could be quite... meaty, but no.
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Clive's not fiddling that much.
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Of course he fucking isn't. Ugh!
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Ahh!
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Simon's not beige.
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That's one colour that Simon really isn't. So fit.
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We've kind of been seeing a bit more of each other.
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His suggestion. Threw me at first.
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We'd just got it on in the Coleherne, cubicle nearest the window
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And... ooh...
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He gets nasty does Simon. Full palm of the hand stuff. And...
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We were having a pint in the front after, and he suddenly says,
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"We could go and see a film or something."
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The thought of us hand-in-hand buying popcorn.
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But we gave it a whirl, and...
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It was nice.
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He's strong, only a few years older than me but he's lived, proper man.
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Like a... big brother.
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Taps into something, you know?
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[SIGHS] It's nice.
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Ooh, his legs are incredible.
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I know he's more than just a pair of legs, but all the same.
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I could actually play 'in love' these days,
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if the right part would only fucking come up.
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"Oh so now, it's my fault is it?"
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There's a line in next week's episode where the beige boyfriend says
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he's thinking of moving back to Hemel Hempstead.
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I have a feeling Clive's gonna go with him, so that'll be the end of that.
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Yeah, good riddance to him.
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I went back to the agent.
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She says Clive isn't 'easy to love'.
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"And if you are dropped from the show darling,
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"at least you're not leaving in a wooden box."
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Which is true.
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I just thought that I was...
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getting somewhere.
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Still, I'm up for tour of Bent at the end of the month,
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so it's not all doom and gloom.
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I just think if you're entering into a relationship with someone,
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you should be honest from the start,
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not... hide any bombshells, pull the rug from under a bloke's feet.
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I was completely not expecting it,
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just sitting with him on the sofa watching a film, and he comes out with it,
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"By the way I'm positive."
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He must've seen panic in me eyes because he immediately says,
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"We've been safe. You're not in any danger."
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Which...
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calmed me down a bit. Still I was shocked.
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He said it was more than just HIV, he actually had AIDS.
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"But I'm okay.
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"I'm looking after myself. I get regular check-ups, do all the right things.
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"Yeah, I get scared sometimes, but...
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"I stand a good chance."
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I wanted to tell you because...
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Well it's important if were gonna...
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get more serious, then..."
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I didn't say anything, just nodded.
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Well, it's a lot to take in, isn't it?
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We tried to just spend the evening together, but an hour in he says,
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"This silence isn't just you getting your head round the news, is it?"
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I just looked at him.
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After that he went off into the kitchen, and...
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I heard him crying,
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sobbing like a baby.
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So that was that.
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Spell broken. Well and truly.
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Oh, it'd be nice if I had some work to take my mind off him, but...
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See the fallow periods are part of the job.
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Trick is not to see one rejection as part of a trend.
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Time passes though, dunnit?
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I won't be in the 'Young and innocent' market forever.
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And then dying's not as in demand as it was.
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Which is ironic, 'cause there's more dying now than ever, way more.
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But the circus has moved on.
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The doctors say it's heading towards a peak and with all the drugs coming up
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more people are gonna live longer and longer, be like normal lives.
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Well that may well be true, but...
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I wonder where it all leaves me.
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I mean, the only thing to do once the eighties are gone
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will be to wipe the slate, press reset, start...
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having 'fun' again.
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And then no one's gonna want to watch the stuff I made, once it really is over.
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I mean, why would they look back on all that death?
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It's just depressing.
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It's no way to move forward, is it?
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So no repeat fees. [CHUCKLES]
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My oeuvre will moulder in the archives.
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[SIGHS]
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I ran into him last week, Simon,
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in Tower Records.
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He doesn't go down the Coleherne now.
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He was there with his little BF.
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Smiley, cute enough, and clearly lady helium heels.
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Well...
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he'd have to be.
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We talked a bit, but it was...
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bit awkward.
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I came away wondering whether he'd even told the little boyfriend.
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It's none of my business.
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I know what my future will be.
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I'll get work, quiet single bloke at party.
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Some swish loft apartment.
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Music.
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I'll be just right for the man who can't quite get into the swing of things.
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Some young blond lad will come over and start on me,
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"Oh smile, it might never happen..."
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And that'll be my cue...
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to wag my finger, to lecture, tell them what went on.
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What 'we' went through.
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They'll all listen, but it'll be uncomfortable.
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They'll all kind of exchange glances,
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let me say me piece and then I'll probably storm off.
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The blond lad will say something funny to lighten the mood.
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Time was it was me who had the funny lines.
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Sparky sense of humour, only back then I was dying and they're not.
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What was I supposed to do?
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He broke the spell.
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If finger-wagging really is all I have to look forward to,
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then I'll have a lot to work with.
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Have you heard?
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The department of health's pulled its finger out?
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They're gonna print some information about AIDS in the papers.
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Only Thatcher's said no.
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They should just stick some posters up on lavatory walls
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and leave it at that, 'cause normal people can't catch it, you see.
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And no one wants to read about arse fucking in The Sun, do they?
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The Sun, "When you mess with nature, you've got it coming to you, mate," The Sun.
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And we've got Private Eye telling us gay stands for "Got AIDS yet?"
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[EXHALES] That's a good one in it?
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The met police raided the Vauxhall Tavern last week.
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The coppers were wearing rubber gloves to protect them from the gay plague.
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Stuff like that is happening to us.
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While hundreds of people are dying, our friends and our lovers,
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stuff like that is fucking common place.
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And it feels like the world's gone cold and mad.
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And I'll bet you, years from now,
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if you want to go anywhere near this stuff on stage,
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you'll have to do it tangentially,
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use some clever trick to keep things light,
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because hey, being gay in the 80s
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was about more than just AIDS, wasn't it?
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Was that angry enough?
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