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♪♪
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[Michael] Los Angeles,
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a city infamous
for its music and movies...
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[director] Action!
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...is also defined
by its murders.
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[gunshot fires, man screams]
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It seems to set
the City of Angels apart,
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capturing
the world's attention.
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The randomness of murder
plays out beneath
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the bright lights
of Hollywood,
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the boulevard
of broken dreams,
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and seeps into the veins
of the American zeitgeist.
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I'm Michael Connelly, and I
came here nearly 40 years ago,
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drawn by the movies, the music,
and, yes, the murders.
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This dark pantheon includes
the Black Dahlia,
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the Hillside Strangler,
the Manson case,
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the OJ Simpson case,
the slaying of Biggie Smalls,
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just to name a few.
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But perhaps no other case
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symbolizes
an era in Los Angeles
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more than
the Wonderland Massacre.
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[man] Okay, cameras rolling.
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[reporter] Four murder victims
were found today
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in a posh
Hollywood Hills home.
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Police said all four had been
beaten to death in a struggle
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that splattered the interior
of the house with blood --
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a Manson-like mass murder.
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[Michael]
The tentacles of the case
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would ensnare a porn star,
a corrupt judge,
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and drug kingpin Pablo Escobar.
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Multiple celebrities
would be swept into the story
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by Liberace's boy toy,
enigma Scott Thorson.
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♪♪
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To this day, no one has been
held directly accountable.
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For many, including me,
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it has been
a decades-long obsession.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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[vehicles passing,
indistinct conversations]
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[car horn honks]
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♪♪
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[Richard Pryor] Listen,
addiction, it's a monster.
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Well, I'll tell you one thing,
man.
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When that fire hits your ass,
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that will sober your ass up
quickly.
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[cheers and applause]
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[Michael] What was
your interaction with Pryor?
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Isn't there a story
about you warning Pryor
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about the dangers
of freebasing?
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Oh, yeah.
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We took off and went
to Mulholland Drive.
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And we parked
my gold Rolls-Royce,
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and he went in the back.
-[lighter strikes]
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We had trays
that would fold down.
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And he was freebasing,
and he'd light that pipe up.
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Yeah, he even worked it
into his act.
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You got a light? Match?
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-Thank you.
-[man] Don't do it!
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[chuckles]
Say, watch out.
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And it was
an ether base,
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so I said, "You got to be
careful, Richard."
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And, uh, he didn't listen,
and he blew himself up.
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Just strike the match like this.
You say, "What's that?"
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"Richard Pryor running down
the street."
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[laughter and applause]
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And, uh, that's when...
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it just exploded
in Los Angeles.
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[man] Deputy District Attorney
Jan Maurizi.
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You were a prosecutor
of murders and major crimes
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in L.A. County in the 1980s,
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so you kinda had
a front row seat
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on what was happening
in the worlds of crime,
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and especially this advent
of crack cocaine.
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In the '70s and early '80s,
powder cocaine was king.
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♪♪
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But it was more the drug
of choice for the elite,
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so it was sort of that segment
of the population
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in those early days.
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By the early 1980s,
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they wanted an opportunity
and the ability
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to increase profitability,
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and so they came up with a way
to create crack cocaine.
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Crack cocaine
was something
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that they could take a
small amount of powder cocaine,
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mix it with baking soda
and water,
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and cook it
at a high temperature
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until it sort of crystallized
and became crack.
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And then when it cooled,
they could break off the rocks
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so they could sell them
to the population.
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Their cost was much less.
They had much more product.
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And that's when I saw it
going into
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the lower and sort of
middle class communities.
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So that's when
the epidemic really took off,
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the early to mid '80s.
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[reporter] Crack -- a kind of
cocaine, a powerful mind bender
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and increasingly popular
and deadly.
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[reporter #2]
Today, crack cocaine use here
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is an epidemic,
up 200% in the last year.
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Good evening.
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Drugs are menacing
our society.
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They're threatening
our values
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and undercutting
our institutions.
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Today, there's a drug
and alcohol abuse epidemic,
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in this country,
and no one is safe from it.
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The casual user cannot
morally escape responsibility
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for the action of
drug traffickers and dealings.
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There's a trail of death
and destruction
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that leads directly
to his door.
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I like these glasses.
They're nice.
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Tell me about
the wave of crack
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that came
to Los Angeles.
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Eddie Nash was
the granddaddy of crack.
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He introduced it
to Hollywood.
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He sold it through
the nightclubs.
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He had me making the crack.
I would do the cooking for him.
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We would cook in these
big gallon mayonnaise jars,
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and they're called "the cookie."
"Make the cookie."
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And then cut them up,
and then we'd sell them
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through the nightclubs
and all that.
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You guys were involved
in crack so early
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that law enforcement
didn't really understand
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what was going on
with that.
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One day, I was driving,
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and I was going up
to Eddie Nash,
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and I had
this big, round rock...
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[siren wails]
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...and I was pulled over
and they searched the car.
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And they said,
"What the hell is this?"
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And they put it
on the hood of the car.
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I said, "I don't know. I found
that in my brother's house."
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I was going to point to it,
and he slapped my hand,
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and the crack went flying
off the hood of the car.
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They didn't know
what was up.
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It wasn't until, um,
the gang members,
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the Bloods, the Crips,
started selling it.
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Here, off an ounce of dope,
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I can make anywhere
from $1,100 to $1,200.
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And then we're killing
each other over it.
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[man] Another guy hit
over there, too.
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[man #2] We know about him.
He's just his leg.
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That's...That's what
started it all.
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This guy's hit in the chest.
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It's real bad.
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People dying
over nothing, man.
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So your 10, 11 years
in Hollywood
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matched the rise
of crack cocaine.
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-Yeah.
-...and that epidemic
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that really destroyed
certain levels of society.
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The drug trade is bringing in
gobs and gobs of money,
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and everybody's got guns
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because they're carrying
a lot of money.
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They're carrying
a lot of drugs.
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There's protection,
and both sides have that.
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It's ripe for shootouts
and -- and murders.
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And -- And the same thing
was going on
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in Hollywood
at that time.
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It just -- All the pieces
of the puzzle
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were there to be put together
to explode with violence.
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And I got brought in
to the homicide unit
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just to help try
to control the problem.
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[camera shutter clicking]
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[Michael] The granddaddy
of this crack epidemic,
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Eddie Nash, was facing trial
for the drug charges
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that resulted
from the cocaine found
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during the raids
of his home and businesses.
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Were there any special
challenges on the drug trial,
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or did you feel like
you were going in,
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uh, to get that victory?
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It's a bread-and-butter
trial.
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There's just nothing
that could be raised.
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Drugs are found
in is safe in the house.
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Diles shoots
at the deputy sheriffs.
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I wasn't sweating this
too badly.
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Anytime you're dealing with
12 jurors, nothing is assured.
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Not wanting to leave
anything to chance,
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in a bold move,
Eddie Nash approached
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Tom Lange and Bob Souza.
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[Souza] Nash actually
attempted to bribe Tom and I
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in the courthouse
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20 feet from his attorneys.
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He said, "Hey,
you guys are homicide guys.
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What's it gonna take to
make this go away, you know?
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I got to get rid of
these drug cases.
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How about a quarter
of a million each?"
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And when we heard that,
we thought,
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"How many people
can you buy
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for a quarter of a million
dollars in 1982?"
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And, you know, I mean,
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he had to have a lot of people
on the street.
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[indistinct conversations]
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[reporter] The jury deliberated
for less than a day.
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And when the verdict
was read this morning,
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Eddie Nash didn't seem
surprised.
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He was found guilty of seven
counts of possessing drugs,
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two of those counts
with intent to sell --
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each a felony.
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[Michael]
Judge Rix sentenced Nash
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to the maximum
of eight years...
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[cell door clanking]
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...plus a fine
of more than $120,000.
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At this point, Scott Thorson
was merely a name
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that had been passed
to investigators
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by the sheriff's department,
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which had Nash's house
under surveillance
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prior to
the Wonderland murders.
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Thorson was seen,
along with many others,
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going into the house,
presumably to buy drugs.
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We'd heard of
Scott Thorson because,
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uh, we knew that he was
at Nash's place early on.
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Somebody
that we wanted to talk to.
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Well,
he wouldn't talk to us.
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Everybody kept coming to me,
and I wouldn't --
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I wouldn't talk about it.
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[chuckles] I --
I was scared to death.
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I knew too much.
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So about sometime in '82,
he goes off...
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-To prison.
-...to prison,
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so what
were you doing then?
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When he went to jail,
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I then took over and I became
involved in running drugs.
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I became a big Hollywood
drug lord myself.
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I went into another
organized crime family
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with the -- called the BGF,
the Black Guerilla Family.
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I was
the only white member there.
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And we ran coke --
crack houses.
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♪♪
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When Eddie was gone,
did you kind of
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forge new bonds?
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You're with a couple people
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that were
Black Guerilla Family.
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This was like a whole
new distribution branch
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for the Eddie Nash
operation?
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Oh, yeah.
Yeah, this was huge.
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[Michael]
The Black Guerilla Family.
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-[Rick] Right.
-Can you kind of explain
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who and what
that organization is?
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Yeah, it's, uh, it's one
of the main four prison gangs.
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It started in California,
like so many gangs do.
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And it was
a Black Power gang in prison.
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Was it surprising that
here's this guy, Scott Thorson,
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he's a white guy,
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and he's involved
with the Black Guerilla Family?
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-Right.
-Is that an unusual thing,
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or is it --
when it comes to drugs,
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is --
everyone's welcome?
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With Scott Thorson,
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he had some prominent
connections through Liberace.
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There were people
from all layers of society
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that were using cocaine
back then.
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It -- It didn't matter.
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And if
they could infiltrate
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through a guy
like Scott Thorson,
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who had pretty decent
connections, that would work.
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♪♪
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[Michael] But the BGF didn't
start as a drug operation.
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The Black Guerilla Family
started in the late 1960s
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in the prison system
as a paramilitary organization,
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um,
very politically involved.
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George Jackson
was the founder.
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Here in prison,
we see the repression,
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the exploitation,
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the -- the victimization of, uh,
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lower-class peoples.
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Jackson was very Marxist
and Leninist in his philosophy,
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much like the SLA
and the Black Panthers.
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And so that,
as I understand it,
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was part of
the original beginnings.
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[indistinct shouting]
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[reporter]
Tension had been mounting here
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at San Quentin Prison
for several months.
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On Saturday, August 21st,
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George Jackson was shot
in circumstances
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which are,
to say the least, mysterious.
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George Jackson
was killed.
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So at that time,
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a man by the name
of Doc Holiday took over,
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and he had already had
a drug business in Pasadena.
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And so he began
to expand sort of the goals
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of the Black Guerilla Family
into more profit making.
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[Michael] How did you
meet Doc Holiday?
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Doc Holiday I met
through a friend of mine
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that was a Blood.
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Doc Holiday
went in partnership with me,
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and we took over these
abandoned apartment buildings.
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We turned them
into crack houses.
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It was the BGF and Bloods that
worked together in these homes.
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[Jan] One of the things
that the BGF did
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that was really
pretty unique was
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there are Bloods,
and there are Crips,
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and they are
natural enemies.
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They were then.
They are today.
295
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But the Black Guerilla Family
was able
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to recruit both of them.
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♪♪
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[Scott] They'd be on the
rooftops with walkie talkies,
299
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looking for police or any
trouble that would come to them.
300
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-So it was like a whole system.
-There's a whole system.
301
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We had two -- two of
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the biggest apartment
buildings in Hollywood.
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We'd have people lined up
for over a block.
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So you're in business
with these guys.
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You're not scared that...
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-I was scared to death.
-I mean, you're also an addict,
307
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so it sounds like...
-I was so far gone by then.
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So far gone.
I was just out of control.
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I was a mess.
I slept with one eye open.
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♪♪
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[Michael]
I remember when I first put
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the words
"Black Guerilla Family"
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into a newspaper story.
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We had barely written about it
at the LA Times.
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I thought it was an ego thing.
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I felt like the prince
of the city.
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I'd be driving home
over the elevated freeways
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over Hollywood,
and I'd look out at the lights
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and say,
"These things are going on,
320
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and do all those people
behind those lights,
321
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do they even care,
do they know about it?"
322
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By the early 1980s,
323
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the increased population
of people
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who are addicted to drugs,
it just all escalated.
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The rise of crack,
if you will,
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did that coincide
with the rise of violent crime?
327
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Most definitely.
Most definitely.
328
00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:18,810
[siren wailing
police radio chatter]
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Stabbed three times.
Then shot one time.
330
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Left femur,
one entrance wound, no exit.
331
00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,990
[man] Yeah, there's
another fella here
332
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that was where he was shot,
shot in the face. He's dead.
333
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And then we started to see
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multiple murders throughout
the Black Guerilla Family
335
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and throughout
the San Fernando Valley,
336
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which ultimately led up
to the quadruple murder
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that I'm most familiar with.
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♪♪
339
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By the time we had
put together this quadruple,
340
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we had
58 murder books.
341
00:14:45,670 --> 00:14:48,170
You keep mentioning
a quadruple,
342
00:14:48,260 --> 00:14:50,090
and you're not talking
about Wonderland, right?
343
00:14:50,180 --> 00:14:51,680
That's correct. I'm not.
344
00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,060
That was a quadruple homicide
that took place
345
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that the Bryant Organization
had orchestrated.
346
00:14:59,020 --> 00:15:00,730
You call it
the Bryant Organization,
347
00:15:00,810 --> 00:15:04,900
but this was an organization
that answered to Doc Holiday.
348
00:15:04,980 --> 00:15:06,530
Through Jeff Bryant.
349
00:15:06,610 --> 00:15:10,700
Jeff Bryant ordered
hits on people.
350
00:15:10,780 --> 00:15:13,530
Yes. Two of
the Bryant associates,
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James Brown and Andre Armstrong,
got together.
352
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They decided that
the Bryants owed them,
353
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and they were
gonna demand their due.
354
00:15:22,170 --> 00:15:25,050
When they set up
a meeting with them
355
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at one of the crack houses
in Lakeview Terrace...
356
00:15:31,970 --> 00:15:35,760
...unfortunately, they
brought Andre's girlfriend,
357
00:15:35,850 --> 00:15:37,600
and she had two little kids
with her --
358
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a three-year-old daughter
and a one-year-old son.
359
00:15:41,310 --> 00:15:45,230
[Michael] As the two associates
entered the crack house,
360
00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,440
they were shot
at point-blank range.
361
00:15:47,530 --> 00:15:49,990
[gunshot fires]
362
00:15:50,070 --> 00:15:53,240
Waiting outside in the car,
the girlfriend and her daughter
363
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were both shot in the back
of the head.
364
00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,410
[gunshots fire]
365
00:15:58,500 --> 00:16:00,660
♪♪
366
00:16:00,750 --> 00:16:04,250
Four people were killed
in Lakeview Terrace.
367
00:16:04,330 --> 00:16:06,750
I wrote about it a lot,
but I never knew what --
368
00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,090
if my stories
had any impact
369
00:16:09,170 --> 00:16:10,590
or increased the knowledge
of the community
370
00:16:10,670 --> 00:16:12,430
of what's going on
about this cancer
371
00:16:12,510 --> 00:16:14,800
that was at the center
of the community.
372
00:16:14,890 --> 00:16:17,100
Here you have
a quadruple murder
373
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that's not getting
a whole lot of attention.
374
00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,850
Then the flip side is Wonderland
is still a crime of fascination.
375
00:16:23,940 --> 00:16:26,610
It's kind of hit
the upper pantheon
376
00:16:26,690 --> 00:16:30,110
of famous
Los Angeles crimes.
377
00:16:30,190 --> 00:16:32,110
I certainly remember
just as a citizen
378
00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,120
reading about that --
multiple murders,
379
00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,830
drugs, Laurel Canyon,
and porn stars.
380
00:16:38,910 --> 00:16:41,620
But it really wasn't
381
00:16:41,710 --> 00:16:45,290
until I began to see this --
sort of the correlation
382
00:16:45,380 --> 00:16:48,130
between
the elite powder cocaine
383
00:16:48,210 --> 00:16:52,630
and then the lower-class,
middle-class crack cocaine,
384
00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,140
and how they were sort of
385
00:16:55,220 --> 00:16:57,930
two sides of the same coin,
in a sense.
386
00:16:59,310 --> 00:17:00,720
[man]
What are you doing?
387
00:17:00,810 --> 00:17:03,850
Smoking some crack.
'Cause I like it.
388
00:17:06,060 --> 00:17:07,810
[man] I love cocaine,
389
00:17:07,900 --> 00:17:10,150
and I couldn't wait
to get out of college
390
00:17:10,230 --> 00:17:11,530
and start working
and making money
391
00:17:11,610 --> 00:17:13,700
'cause I wanted to live
that lifestyle.
392
00:17:13,780 --> 00:17:16,070
[man #2] You don't become known
smoking crack.
393
00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:19,740
You become shit.
394
00:17:19,830 --> 00:17:21,410
Who's buying it?
395
00:17:21,490 --> 00:17:22,750
People, man.
Who you think?
396
00:17:22,830 --> 00:17:24,500
The stockbrokers,
the lawyers,
397
00:17:24,580 --> 00:17:25,540
the people
with the money.
398
00:17:25,620 --> 00:17:27,670
It's not --
It's not a party
399
00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:29,210
unless there's drugs
or drinking.
400
00:17:29,290 --> 00:17:33,170
[chuckles]
401
00:17:33,260 --> 00:17:35,510
I don't know why I do it.
402
00:17:35,590 --> 00:17:36,890
Maybe the addiction.
403
00:17:36,970 --> 00:17:41,060
♪♪
404
00:17:41,140 --> 00:17:43,020
The addiction
is what it is.
405
00:17:43,100 --> 00:17:46,190
♪♪
406
00:17:46,270 --> 00:17:48,520
It was horrible.
407
00:17:48,610 --> 00:17:52,530
That drug,
it makes people evil.
408
00:17:52,610 --> 00:17:54,530
It's one of the worst drugs
I've ever done.
409
00:17:54,610 --> 00:17:57,910
People lose their lives
over this.
410
00:17:57,990 --> 00:18:00,530
They become insane.
411
00:18:00,620 --> 00:18:02,540
They become tweakers,
and that's all they want
412
00:18:02,620 --> 00:18:04,450
is that drug,
and they chase it.
413
00:18:04,540 --> 00:18:07,620
They will sell their mother's
ass on the street if they could.
414
00:18:07,710 --> 00:18:08,880
And they would.
415
00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,920
I had a lady
come up to me one day,
416
00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,550
and she had
two little babies.
417
00:18:13,630 --> 00:18:15,630
She offered to
sell her babies to me.
418
00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,090
I said, "How dare you?
419
00:18:17,180 --> 00:18:18,930
How could you do that
to your own children?"
420
00:18:19,010 --> 00:18:20,550
-It broke my heart.
-And you say that now,
421
00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,720
but when this was
all happening in the '80s,
422
00:18:23,810 --> 00:18:25,770
and Los Angeles had
423
00:18:25,850 --> 00:18:28,100
the highest rate of homicide
it's ever had...
424
00:18:28,190 --> 00:18:29,600
Yeah.
425
00:18:29,690 --> 00:18:32,320
...you're cooking this stuff.
Did it never --
426
00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,570
Did you make that connection,
or did you say...
427
00:18:34,650 --> 00:18:36,610
-You know something?
-..."What did we start?"
428
00:18:36,690 --> 00:18:40,070
I was so far gone
and making so much money.
429
00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,580
I'm not proud of it,
and I have regrets.
430
00:18:43,660 --> 00:18:45,620
But I did it to survive.
431
00:18:45,700 --> 00:18:51,250
♪♪
432
00:18:51,330 --> 00:18:53,340
[Michael]
As the drug wars raged,
433
00:18:53,420 --> 00:18:56,260
and with the Holmes acquittal
long in the rearview mirror,
434
00:18:56,340 --> 00:18:59,300
the Wonderland case
was at a standstill.
435
00:18:59,380 --> 00:19:04,100
♪♪
436
00:19:04,180 --> 00:19:08,770
♪♪
437
00:19:08,850 --> 00:19:12,150
[man] Mitzi Roberts,
LAPD cold case detective. Mark.
438
00:19:13,690 --> 00:19:16,320
When you, um,
look at a cold case,
439
00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,110
there's something like 6,000
unsolved murders in Los Angeles.
440
00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,530
What is the protocol
or what is the checklist
441
00:19:22,620 --> 00:19:25,290
that you're looking for
in order to open up a case
442
00:19:25,370 --> 00:19:26,950
that's 43 years old?
443
00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,960
There's really
no checklist.
444
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,960
I mean, obviously,
if it's self-initiated,
445
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,630
I'm going to try and find
a case that has evidence
446
00:19:34,710 --> 00:19:37,460
that's gonna solve the case --
DNA, fingerprints.
447
00:19:37,550 --> 00:19:41,470
Now, with genetic genealogy,
I mean, that's the game changer.
448
00:19:41,550 --> 00:19:43,550
That's the face of --
of investigations,
449
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,680
especially cold cases.
450
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,640
I've always known about
the Wonderland murders,
451
00:19:48,730 --> 00:19:50,480
the Laurel Canyon murders.
452
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,560
To our benefit,
it's a hands-on crime.
453
00:19:52,650 --> 00:19:53,980
It's not like a shooting.
454
00:19:54,060 --> 00:19:56,520
It's not like, you know,
an execution with a gun.
455
00:19:56,610 --> 00:19:59,320
So every time they're
coming down, um, if there's --
456
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,070
Blood's flying.
Blood, blood, blood.
457
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,660
Even then, you're gonna need
a lot of circumstantial evidence
458
00:20:06,740 --> 00:20:08,910
from other people
that were there.
459
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,160
Does the history
of the case also,
460
00:20:11,250 --> 00:20:13,670
uh, not intimidate,
but give you pause?
461
00:20:13,750 --> 00:20:15,500
Yeah, it -- it does
give me pause,
462
00:20:15,590 --> 00:20:18,170
because some of
the best detectives and DAs
463
00:20:18,250 --> 00:20:20,010
that I've known in my career
464
00:20:20,090 --> 00:20:22,720
have already put everything
into this case.
465
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,100
So why is this case
still so interesting
466
00:20:26,180 --> 00:20:28,010
that people want to know
about it?
467
00:20:28,100 --> 00:20:29,680
Why is this case still
in the zeitgeist?
468
00:20:29,770 --> 00:20:31,770
First of all,
people love Hollywood
469
00:20:31,850 --> 00:20:33,270
all throughout the country,
470
00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:35,900
and this is
a great Hollywood mystery.
471
00:20:35,980 --> 00:20:37,940
It's like the Black Dahlia.
472
00:20:38,020 --> 00:20:40,440
As someone who makes up
a lot of my stories,
473
00:20:40,530 --> 00:20:42,950
yeah, having a good villain
is important.
474
00:20:43,030 --> 00:20:46,950
I think Eddie Nash emerged
as a really good villain.
475
00:20:47,030 --> 00:20:48,700
-Yeah.
-And of course,
476
00:20:48,790 --> 00:20:51,040
it's somebody who,
our villain,
477
00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:53,540
a real life villain
came out here
478
00:20:53,620 --> 00:20:55,380
to be a make-believe guy,
to be an actor.
479
00:20:55,460 --> 00:20:56,920
Yeah.
480
00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,960
So it's like
a "only in Hollywood" story.
481
00:21:01,050 --> 00:21:02,420
It's got its fingers
in everything
482
00:21:02,510 --> 00:21:04,630
we know about Hollywood.
483
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,550
You know, we got a porn star
as a suspect...
484
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,810
drugs and money
and Liberace,
485
00:21:10,890 --> 00:21:13,270
Hollywood nightclubs,
and everything
486
00:21:13,350 --> 00:21:16,560
we know of what the '70s
and the '80s were in Hollywood,
487
00:21:16,650 --> 00:21:19,730
this mystery has.
488
00:21:19,820 --> 00:21:21,400
That's what I love
about cold cases.
489
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,450
It's like
a time machine.
490
00:21:25,530 --> 00:21:28,070
What seemed so brutal
when this murder happened
491
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,830
we've seen so much
since then.
492
00:21:30,910 --> 00:21:34,960
The late '80s were a killing
field in Los Angeles.
493
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,790
[siren wailing in distance]
494
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:44,670
♪♪
495
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,090
[Michael]
Okay, so some years go by,
496
00:21:47,180 --> 00:21:51,140
and this case looks like
it's gone forever, probably.
497
00:21:51,220 --> 00:21:55,350
Yeah. We moved on
to these other cases.
498
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,270
You've got to
prioritize 'em.
499
00:21:57,350 --> 00:22:00,360
You have the Hillside Strangler
with these young girls
500
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,480
who are getting kidnapped,
brutalized,
501
00:22:02,570 --> 00:22:05,860
raped and dumped
over the hills of L.A.,
502
00:22:05,950 --> 00:22:08,110
and then you throw in
the two or three
503
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,700
different Skid Row
serial killings
504
00:22:10,780 --> 00:22:13,660
that we had at the time,
Slasher, Stabber.
505
00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:17,290
30 or 40 derelicts down there
were knifed to death
506
00:22:17,370 --> 00:22:19,960
over a period of
five or six years.
507
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,000
♪♪
508
00:22:23,090 --> 00:22:25,300
[Michael] And it's in the midst
of these other cases
509
00:22:25,380 --> 00:22:27,680
that Lange and Souza's
professional lives
510
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,140
were about to be
turned upside down
511
00:22:30,220 --> 00:22:32,140
when Souza made
a routine check-in
512
00:22:32,220 --> 00:22:34,640
on the Wonderland case.
513
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,980
There was a concerted effort
to smear you guys.
514
00:22:39,060 --> 00:22:40,350
Yeah.
515
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,150
You discovered
this whole thing, right,
516
00:22:42,230 --> 00:22:44,320
when you come into the office
after hours or something?
517
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,860
Yeah. By that time,
the murder book,
518
00:22:46,940 --> 00:22:51,910
we had four volumes
of thick three-ring binders.
519
00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:54,990
That night I went to get
the folders,
520
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,580
the entire case was gone.
521
00:22:58,410 --> 00:23:02,670
All four folders
were missing.
522
00:23:02,750 --> 00:23:05,340
Our captain happened
to be there late.
523
00:23:05,420 --> 00:23:07,170
I said, "Hey, Cap.
I got a problem."
524
00:23:07,260 --> 00:23:09,260
I said, "Our Laurel Canyon case
is missing.
525
00:23:09,340 --> 00:23:11,180
I wonder where it's gone."
526
00:23:11,260 --> 00:23:13,390
He says, uh,
"Sit down a minute, Bob."
527
00:23:13,470 --> 00:23:15,680
And I knew something
was up,
528
00:23:15,770 --> 00:23:18,020
and I said, "No, no,
what's going on?"
529
00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:20,190
He said, "There's been a --
530
00:23:20,270 --> 00:23:22,860
a chief special Internal Affairs
investigation
531
00:23:22,940 --> 00:23:25,400
against you and Tom."
532
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,900
I said, "For what?"
533
00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:29,700
He said, "Well,
there's allegations
534
00:23:29,780 --> 00:23:33,370
that you two were,
uh, were on the take,
535
00:23:33,450 --> 00:23:36,200
and Nash
is paying you guys off.
536
00:23:36,290 --> 00:23:37,370
That's why
you haven't arrested him.
537
00:23:37,450 --> 00:23:39,370
Because
you're on his payroll."
538
00:23:39,460 --> 00:23:42,380
I said, "Jesus." I said,
"I don't believe this shit."
539
00:23:42,460 --> 00:23:45,880
And I mean, I lost it. I said,
"Cap, this is bullshit."
540
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,710
-[chuckles]
-So I stormed out.
541
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,800
I called Tom at home, and I
said, "Tom, you sitting down?"
542
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,720
And I could tell on the other --
I could feel --
543
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,560
I could feel the heat
coming off of Tom.
544
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,060
[Michael]
According to documents
545
00:23:59,140 --> 00:24:00,980
in the internal
investigation file,
546
00:24:01,060 --> 00:24:04,270
an agent with the Bureau of
Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms
547
00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:08,230
was the source of the complaint
against Lange and Souza.
548
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,110
His name was Henry Hoskins.
549
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,490
♪♪
550
00:24:13,570 --> 00:24:15,120
[Tom] Henry Hoskins' office
551
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:16,990
with the Organized Crime
Strike Force
552
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,410
is right across the street from
Parker Center, where we were.
553
00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:21,750
One afternoon, he came walking
across the street
554
00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:23,920
into our office
and introduced himself.
555
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,630
And he was there
on a fishing expedition.
556
00:24:25,710 --> 00:24:29,420
Yeah. He's kind of an
intimidating type of individual.
557
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:32,430
He says, "We'd like to know
about your investigation,
558
00:24:32,510 --> 00:24:36,260
what you have, as it
probably ties in with us."
559
00:24:36,350 --> 00:24:37,970
Unbeknownst to us,
560
00:24:38,060 --> 00:24:42,020
he's a federal agent, but he's
also working with Ed Nash.
561
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:46,650
He's dirty. He's a dirty fed.
562
00:24:46,730 --> 00:24:48,770
We didn't know that
at the time.
563
00:24:48,860 --> 00:24:50,820
He's trying to get what he can
from us.
564
00:24:50,900 --> 00:24:53,610
We gave him nothing.
565
00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:55,530
[Michael] The investigation
into Lange and Souza
566
00:24:55,620 --> 00:24:57,120
never leaked to the public,
567
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,950
but it hung
over the two detectives
568
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,290
and the case
for more than a year.
569
00:25:01,370 --> 00:25:03,120
Here we are,
doing the best we can
570
00:25:03,210 --> 00:25:06,210
to solve a quadruple murder,
and we're being followed.
571
00:25:06,290 --> 00:25:07,960
Find out
we're being surveilled.
572
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,130
Um, they're checking
everything we did.
573
00:25:10,210 --> 00:25:15,050
Every entry in our log
is being analyzed.
574
00:25:15,130 --> 00:25:16,970
Now who do we trust?
We have no idea.
575
00:25:17,050 --> 00:25:20,970
Hoskins was probably dialed in
all the way up to the mayor.
576
00:25:21,060 --> 00:25:24,890
♪♪
577
00:25:24,980 --> 00:25:27,810
During that time,
with just two and a half years
578
00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:29,520
of a seven-year sentence
served,
579
00:25:29,610 --> 00:25:32,490
Nash claims
to have developed a sinus tumor
580
00:25:32,570 --> 00:25:35,530
and petitioned to be released
to get medical treatment.
581
00:25:35,610 --> 00:25:38,240
♪♪
582
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,870
And the judge
cut the sentence...
583
00:25:41,950 --> 00:25:43,410
made him eligible
for immediate parole.
584
00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:45,080
I was astounded!
585
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,670
Is this the same judge
that maxed him out?
586
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:49,710
What happened?!
587
00:25:49,790 --> 00:25:53,710
You know, I was amazed.
588
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:59,180
He gets out of prison...
and never had surgery.
589
00:25:59,260 --> 00:26:02,520
He was released
because of a tumor.
590
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,560
Did you know that
to be a true story?
591
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,890
No. [chuckles]
592
00:26:05,980 --> 00:26:07,190
He never had
an operation afterwards.
593
00:26:07,270 --> 00:26:09,400
No, but he had
lung problems.
594
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,570
I do know that.
From smoking that crack.
595
00:26:12,650 --> 00:26:14,900
[Michael] Was there anything
you could do about that?
596
00:26:14,990 --> 00:26:19,030
It's over. It's done.
597
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:22,290
Judge Rix sentenced Nash
to eight years in prison.
598
00:26:22,370 --> 00:26:25,040
He didn't serve but two years,
and Rix let him out.
599
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:27,620
It just --
It was just unbelievable.
600
00:26:27,710 --> 00:26:30,380
[siren wailing in distance]
601
00:26:30,460 --> 00:26:32,040
[Michael]
With Nash out of prison,
602
00:26:32,130 --> 00:26:34,460
it was back to business
as usual.
603
00:26:34,550 --> 00:26:38,090
[reporter] The Odyssey is
a popular teenage nightclub.
604
00:26:38,180 --> 00:26:41,470
Teens can dance here until
4:00 in the morning on weekdays
605
00:26:41,550 --> 00:26:43,390
and 5:00 a.m. on weekends.
606
00:26:43,470 --> 00:26:46,230
No liquor is served,
but the kids are out very late,
607
00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:47,980
and they're causing problems.
608
00:26:48,060 --> 00:26:52,150
The Odyssey eventually
became an under-21 club
609
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:54,570
because the liquor license
was lost.
610
00:26:54,650 --> 00:26:56,740
Eddie Nash made it
into a club
611
00:26:56,820 --> 00:26:59,320
where young,
young people could come.
612
00:26:59,410 --> 00:27:01,120
13-, 14-year-olds.
613
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,990
Drugs were everywhere.
614
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,620
The main purpose
for the clubs was
615
00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:08,080
that's where he sold
the crack and the cocaine,
616
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,460
especially at The Odyssey.
617
00:27:09,540 --> 00:27:12,750
He had -- In the office
were pounds of cocaine
618
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,420
that he would sell
to the kids that came in.
619
00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:17,630
[1980s synthesizer music
playing]
620
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,680
[reporter] About 50 teenagers
demonstrated in front
621
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,850
of The Odyssey nightclub
near West Hollywood today.
622
00:27:22,930 --> 00:27:25,140
The Odyssey's dance permit
was revoked earlier this week
623
00:27:25,220 --> 00:27:26,600
by the police commission
624
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,140
following neighbors' complaints
about the kids.
625
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:30,810
The spokesman for the club
says the owner plans
626
00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:33,440
to appeal the decision that
revoked the club's dance permit.
627
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,690
We've been here nine years.
628
00:27:35,780 --> 00:27:37,360
We've never had an arrest
on a location in nine years
629
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,110
or any violations.
630
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,780
[Scott] Chris Cox was
a big supplier for Nash.
631
00:27:41,860 --> 00:27:44,330
I thought he always owned
The Odyssey,
632
00:27:44,410 --> 00:27:46,830
but I understand that
it was Nash that owned it.
633
00:27:46,910 --> 00:27:50,460
[Michael] Facing continued
pressure from the neighbors
634
00:27:50,540 --> 00:27:52,630
and the police commission
and losing money,
635
00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:55,290
The Odyssey
closed its doors.
636
00:27:55,380 --> 00:27:56,840
[door closes]
637
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,050
[reporter] The buildings were
mostly empty
638
00:27:59,130 --> 00:28:02,470
and were scheduled to be
auctioned off the end of April.
639
00:28:02,550 --> 00:28:05,510
[siren wailing,
fire crackling]
640
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,140
Arson investigators
are looking into a fire
641
00:28:07,220 --> 00:28:08,970
that broke out late today
642
00:28:09,060 --> 00:28:10,980
at the controversial
Odyssey nightclub.
643
00:28:11,060 --> 00:28:15,150
Witnesses in the area saw
people throw some type of liquid
644
00:28:15,230 --> 00:28:17,320
into the front of the building
and ignite the fire
645
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,150
at the front portion
of the building.
646
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,200
[Michael]
Neither Eddie Nash,
647
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,530
nor anyone else,
for that matter,
648
00:28:23,610 --> 00:28:27,330
was ever charged
in the arson of The Odyssey.
649
00:28:27,410 --> 00:28:29,700
But when there's smoke,
there's fire.
650
00:28:29,790 --> 00:28:31,660
♪♪
651
00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:35,500
In federal custody,
they have Henry Hoskins snitch.
652
00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:37,170
He's one of the guys
653
00:28:37,250 --> 00:28:39,420
who was setting
the arson fires for Nash.
654
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:41,670
"You see Nash,
the puppet master here?"
655
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,850
Okay, so back to
the investigation into you guys.
656
00:28:45,930 --> 00:28:49,930
It's easy to say,
"Who's behind this?
657
00:28:50,020 --> 00:28:51,520
Nash is behind this."
658
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,850
But how did you --
how did you prove that?
659
00:28:53,940 --> 00:28:58,900
What happened to Hoskins
that revealed the puppet master?
660
00:28:58,980 --> 00:29:02,900
Hoskins left the feds
during this investigation.
661
00:29:02,990 --> 00:29:05,530
They knew he was dirty.
He left.
662
00:29:05,610 --> 00:29:07,410
He opens the private
investigator business
663
00:29:07,490 --> 00:29:09,370
on Sunset Boulevard.
664
00:29:09,450 --> 00:29:12,410
He uses Ed Nash's nightclub,
the Seven Seas, as his address.
665
00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:14,210
♪♪
666
00:29:14,290 --> 00:29:16,750
[chuckles]
667
00:29:16,830 --> 00:29:20,250
And his office is upstairs
from Nash's business.
668
00:29:20,340 --> 00:29:21,880
♪♪
669
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,760
Now we know that
he's connected to Ed Nash.
670
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:27,720
♪♪
671
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,220
With Nash,
672
00:29:29,310 --> 00:29:33,730
imagine being that type of guy
that was so comfortable
673
00:29:33,810 --> 00:29:37,060
trying to get investigators
off of a case.
674
00:29:37,150 --> 00:29:41,480
That means it's worked for you
several times before, right?
675
00:29:41,570 --> 00:29:43,740
This isn't just like,
"I'm gonna try my luck at this."
676
00:29:43,820 --> 00:29:47,410
That is a, um,
a different kind of villain.
677
00:29:47,490 --> 00:29:50,740
♪♪
678
00:29:50,830 --> 00:29:52,410
[Michael]
So at the end of the day,
679
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:55,410
with the investigation
into you guys,
680
00:29:55,500 --> 00:30:00,090
they promulgate a...would you
say four-inch-thick report?
681
00:30:00,170 --> 00:30:01,670
And it ends
with one line saying...
682
00:30:01,750 --> 00:30:03,340
"Detectives Lange and Souza --
683
00:30:03,420 --> 00:30:05,840
we could find no improprieties
684
00:30:05,930 --> 00:30:10,010
in the above referenced case."
685
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:12,600
That was it.
"No improprieties."
686
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,930
No apologies.
That pissed us off.
687
00:30:15,020 --> 00:30:19,940
♪♪
688
00:30:20,020 --> 00:30:21,980
[wind howls]
689
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:25,030
♪♪
690
00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:26,650
[Michael]
Though back in business,
691
00:30:26,740 --> 00:30:29,450
Eddie Nash needed to take
precautions.
692
00:30:29,530 --> 00:30:31,660
[Scott] He used to give me
pounds of cocaine
693
00:30:31,740 --> 00:30:35,660
to take my condo in Studio City
because he was in fear.
694
00:30:35,750 --> 00:30:39,880
He trusted me that I would
not steal from him.
695
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,840
And then he'd call me and says,
"Okay, I'm home. Bring it up."
696
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,460
And that's what I would do.
697
00:30:44,550 --> 00:30:47,630
While playing a role
in the crack epidemic,
698
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,800
Scott finds himself reuniting
with his former lover
699
00:30:50,890 --> 00:30:52,810
as the result
of another epidemic
700
00:30:52,890 --> 00:30:55,180
that's sweeping the nation.
701
00:30:55,270 --> 00:30:59,020
[Scott] For a long time,
we didn't speak,
702
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:01,230
and I didn't see him
other than in court
703
00:31:01,310 --> 00:31:03,070
or in depositions.
704
00:31:03,150 --> 00:31:07,990
And, uh, a reporter called me
from Las Vegas
705
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:09,660
and said
that he's terribly ill,
706
00:31:09,740 --> 00:31:11,820
and there's a rumor
that he's dying of AIDS.
707
00:31:11,910 --> 00:31:15,080
♪♪
708
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,710
[announcer] Liberace!
709
00:31:17,790 --> 00:31:21,000
[cheers and applause]
710
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:25,500
♪♪
711
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:28,260
I flew
to Radio City Music Hall,
712
00:31:28,340 --> 00:31:30,090
where he was performing
713
00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:32,010
with the Radio City
Music Hall Rockettes.
714
00:31:32,090 --> 00:31:37,270
♪♪
715
00:31:37,350 --> 00:31:39,940
["Clair de Lune" playing]
716
00:31:40,020 --> 00:31:43,730
It was one of
his last shows...
717
00:31:43,810 --> 00:31:49,860
and, uh, backstage there were
paramedics and oxygen tanks.
718
00:31:49,950 --> 00:31:51,070
He asked me a question.
719
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,200
He says, "Are you okay?
You're healthy?"
720
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,580
I said, "Yeah, why?"
721
00:31:54,660 --> 00:31:57,450
♪♪
722
00:31:57,540 --> 00:31:59,370
He says,
"I was just checking."
723
00:31:59,460 --> 00:32:03,420
♪♪
724
00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:08,260
So I went there, to his home.
Palm Springs, California.
725
00:32:08,340 --> 00:32:09,880
♪♪
726
00:32:09,970 --> 00:32:12,050
I gave him a hug,
and when I gave him a hug,
727
00:32:12,130 --> 00:32:13,550
I could feel the bones.
728
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,720
He was just a skeleton
of what he was.
729
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,930
♪♪
730
00:32:18,020 --> 00:32:21,730
He went fast, so I proceeded
to take care of him.
731
00:32:21,810 --> 00:32:23,270
We fed him his last meal.
732
00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:25,110
♪♪
733
00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:27,440
He died in my arms.
734
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,400
♪♪
735
00:32:31,490 --> 00:32:36,080
["Clair de Lune" ends,
applause]
736
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,200
[applause fades]
737
00:32:42,370 --> 00:32:44,960
[Michael] You wrote a book
called Behind the Candelabra.
738
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,420
Yes.
739
00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:47,840
When did you
start writing that?
740
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,170
Was Liberace still alive?
Was he--
741
00:32:49,250 --> 00:32:50,760
No, he was dead.
742
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,260
I started writing that
right after his death.
743
00:32:52,340 --> 00:32:54,930
I decided to tell, you know,
an all-tell book.
744
00:32:55,010 --> 00:32:57,810
People needed to know
the truth,
745
00:32:57,890 --> 00:32:59,970
what happened to me.
I was very young.
746
00:33:00,060 --> 00:33:02,430
He was 40 years my senior.
He knew what he was doing.
747
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,980
He should be
ashamed of himself.
748
00:33:05,060 --> 00:33:09,610
I was just a kid.
I didn't know anything.
749
00:33:09,690 --> 00:33:11,490
[Michael]
In Thorson's book,
750
00:33:11,570 --> 00:33:14,490
neither the Wonderland murders
or Nash are mentioned,
751
00:33:14,570 --> 00:33:17,320
but there's a reference
to a mysterious drug dealer
752
00:33:17,410 --> 00:33:20,790
known only as Mr. Y.
753
00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:22,660
And Liberace
would not be the only one
754
00:33:22,750 --> 00:33:24,290
connected
to the Wonderland case
755
00:33:24,370 --> 00:33:27,040
to fall victim
to the AIDS epidemic.
756
00:33:27,130 --> 00:33:30,170
[reporter] People in
the porn industry have told us
757
00:33:30,250 --> 00:33:33,130
it was hard for John to get
work after the trial,
758
00:33:33,220 --> 00:33:35,220
so he turned to the gay market.
759
00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:37,970
Riddled with the disease,
addicted to cocaine,
760
00:33:38,050 --> 00:33:40,010
he continued
to make porn films,
761
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:42,980
knowingly spreading
the disease.
762
00:33:43,060 --> 00:33:45,190
♪♪
763
00:33:45,270 --> 00:33:47,060
He still was performing
764
00:33:47,150 --> 00:33:50,320
when he, uh, had AIDS,
and he wasn't telling...
765
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,980
-Yeah.
-...other people about it.
766
00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:55,530
He was, uh, introducing
AIDS to the group.
767
00:33:55,610 --> 00:33:59,370
[Michael] By this time,
Detective Bob Souza had retired,
768
00:33:59,450 --> 00:34:01,990
and Tom Lange's new partner
was Mac McClain,
769
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,660
the same detective
who guarded John Holmes
770
00:34:04,750 --> 00:34:07,580
at the Biltmore Hotel
back in '81.
771
00:34:07,670 --> 00:34:09,500
[Michael] What were
you doing before Tom said,
772
00:34:09,590 --> 00:34:11,000
"Will you be my partner?"
773
00:34:11,090 --> 00:34:15,170
In 1986, there was a serial
killer
774
00:34:15,260 --> 00:34:17,050
The "Southside Slayer,"
we called him.
775
00:34:17,130 --> 00:34:19,510
Was killing prostitutes.
776
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,890
And so I came there
as a part of that.
777
00:34:21,970 --> 00:34:25,930
After the Southside Slayer case
ended, Tom says,
778
00:34:26,020 --> 00:34:28,020
"Hey,
I don't have a partner.
779
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:29,860
I'll see
if they'll let you stay."
780
00:34:29,940 --> 00:34:32,190
I think he did that
because both of us
781
00:34:32,270 --> 00:34:35,610
had been in the Marines
in Vietnam at the same time.
782
00:34:35,690 --> 00:34:37,860
[Tom] I was working
with Mac McClain,
783
00:34:37,950 --> 00:34:39,530
and we got information
784
00:34:39,620 --> 00:34:41,370
that John was
at the Veterans Hospital
785
00:34:41,450 --> 00:34:43,540
in the San Fernando Valley.
786
00:34:43,620 --> 00:34:46,620
At the time, we were
just trying to find Holmes.
787
00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:49,250
We go out
to the VA hospital,
788
00:34:49,330 --> 00:34:51,250
see if John Holmes
is checked in there.
789
00:34:51,340 --> 00:34:54,550
And, yes, he is.
790
00:34:54,630 --> 00:34:57,050
He apparently had
contacted AIDS,
791
00:34:57,130 --> 00:34:59,050
and he wasn't in good shape.
792
00:34:59,130 --> 00:35:02,890
This told me and Mac
that maybe he's ready to talk.
793
00:35:02,970 --> 00:35:05,390
-I mean, we got nothing to lose.
-Yeah.
794
00:35:05,470 --> 00:35:07,980
So Mac and I went in.
He was in bed.
795
00:35:08,060 --> 00:35:10,440
He looked terrible.
796
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,570
He weighed about 90 pounds.
He looked really, really frail.
797
00:35:13,650 --> 00:35:16,990
His hair was really long.
He had really long fingernails.
798
00:35:17,070 --> 00:35:18,950
He was obviously
in some kind of agony.
799
00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:23,120
♪♪
800
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,330
I says, "John, by your own
admission, you're dying."
801
00:35:26,410 --> 00:35:29,000
And I goes, "You wanna
take this with you?"
802
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,580
I goes, "You want to
let Nash go free?"
803
00:35:32,670 --> 00:35:34,750
"Once you're gone,"
I goes, "they're not gonna do
804
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,590
anything to your family."
805
00:35:36,670 --> 00:35:38,760
And all of a sudden,
he pops up...
806
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,930
-[clattering]
-[John] I heard some noises
807
00:35:41,010 --> 00:35:43,100
coming from the direction
of the bedroom.
808
00:35:43,180 --> 00:35:45,100
I decided to investigate.
809
00:35:45,180 --> 00:35:50,100
And he says, "When I was doing
my Johnny Wadd detective series,
810
00:35:50,190 --> 00:35:52,940
I tried to emulate
what you guys do."
811
00:35:53,020 --> 00:35:54,770
JOHN: So, we meet again.
812
00:35:54,860 --> 00:35:56,440
Look, I was just looking for
some love letters I wrote.
813
00:35:56,530 --> 00:35:57,940
You were looking
for love letters. Like hell.
814
00:35:58,030 --> 00:35:59,820
I think you were
looking for something else.
815
00:35:59,900 --> 00:36:01,780
He was all,
"I pretended to be a detective,
816
00:36:01,860 --> 00:36:03,200
and I really like LAPD."
817
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,990
All this crap, you know,
feeding us this nonsense.
818
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,830
You son of a bitch.
819
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:09,450
♪♪
820
00:36:09,540 --> 00:36:11,210
He said,
"I'll tell you what I'll do.
821
00:36:11,290 --> 00:36:13,960
I'm gonna write it all down
for you. Lay it all out."
822
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:19,130
I looked at Mac,
and he looked at me,
823
00:36:19,210 --> 00:36:20,340
and we weren't going to go
anywhere with this.
824
00:36:20,420 --> 00:36:22,130
It's the same old John Holmes
825
00:36:22,220 --> 00:36:25,140
talking out of both sides
of his mouth. Nothing changes.
826
00:36:25,220 --> 00:36:26,970
We're not gonna get
anything from him.
827
00:36:27,060 --> 00:36:28,390
If he writes something down,
fine.
828
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:31,690
Of course, he never did.
829
00:36:31,770 --> 00:36:34,480
The undisputed king
of porn films in the 1970s,
830
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,690
the man who claimed to
have had sex with 14,000 women,
831
00:36:37,770 --> 00:36:39,650
died yesterday
at a veterans hospital
832
00:36:39,740 --> 00:36:40,530
in Southern California.
833
00:36:40,610 --> 00:36:42,700
He was 43 years old.
834
00:36:42,780 --> 00:36:44,820
[Tom] He died from the AIDS
835
00:36:44,910 --> 00:36:47,160
about 12 days
after we'd been there.
836
00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:50,370
We'll never know what he knew.
It's history.
837
00:36:50,450 --> 00:36:52,540
♪♪
838
00:36:52,620 --> 00:36:55,880
[Michael] John Holmes took
his secret to the grave.
839
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,920
But shortly after his death,
840
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,590
his former wife Sharon
agreed to be interviewed
841
00:37:00,670 --> 00:37:04,890
on Current Affair,
disguised only by a wig.
842
00:37:04,970 --> 00:37:07,760
He certainly was capable
of knowingly having
843
00:37:07,850 --> 00:37:10,350
the disease longer
844
00:37:10,430 --> 00:37:13,690
than anyone else knew
and spreading it.
845
00:37:13,770 --> 00:37:17,690
I mean, would that be
so hard to understand
846
00:37:17,770 --> 00:37:19,270
when you can stand there
847
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,190
and watch four people
be butchered in front of you?
848
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:27,870
♪♪
849
00:37:27,950 --> 00:37:29,200
[Michael]
Not only did she confirm
850
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,790
Holmes' involvement
in the murders,
851
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:33,910
she went on to confirm
the bizarre bathtub story
852
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,540
she told detective Tom Lange
seven years earlier.
853
00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:42,880
We started with the shaking
and the crying, and he says,
854
00:37:42,970 --> 00:37:45,930
"I do have to tell you 'cause I
can't live with this by myself."
855
00:37:46,010 --> 00:37:50,260
If there was something
he knew, you wouldn't like.
856
00:37:50,350 --> 00:37:52,220
This was always done
in the bathroom,
857
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:55,140
and it was always done
in the bathtub.
858
00:37:55,230 --> 00:37:57,940
This scene was depicted in
the Hollywood film Wonderland,
859
00:37:58,020 --> 00:38:00,570
starring Val Kilmer
and Lisa Kudrow.
860
00:38:00,650 --> 00:38:02,650
-Oh, just a cut.
-There's too much blood.
861
00:38:02,730 --> 00:38:05,490
-I gotta get it off. Okay?
-John, where's the wound?
862
00:38:05,570 --> 00:38:07,320
There's no wound.
863
00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:09,780
This isn't your blood,
John.
864
00:38:09,870 --> 00:38:12,580
Whose blood is this?
865
00:38:12,660 --> 00:38:16,330
It's kind of like
Macbeth's wife
866
00:38:16,420 --> 00:38:18,170
washing her hands
sort of thing.
867
00:38:18,250 --> 00:38:22,090
He sold his soul that night.
868
00:38:22,170 --> 00:38:23,920
Everything else was gone.
869
00:38:24,010 --> 00:38:25,920
But to stand there
and watch a butchering
870
00:38:26,010 --> 00:38:28,510
or a slaughtering like that
and doing nothing?
871
00:38:28,590 --> 00:38:33,100
I said,
"John, how could you?"
872
00:38:33,180 --> 00:38:34,930
And he said,
"They were dirt."
873
00:38:35,020 --> 00:38:36,980
♪♪
874
00:38:37,060 --> 00:38:39,310
And I said, "John,
you knew these people."
875
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,150
And he said, "They were dirt,
and they were stupid."
876
00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:47,860
♪♪
877
00:38:47,950 --> 00:38:49,950
The Wonderland case
simmered for years
878
00:38:50,030 --> 00:38:52,620
after Holmes' acquittal
in 1982.
879
00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:53,450
We, the jury,
find the Defendant,
880
00:38:53,540 --> 00:38:54,540
John Curtis Holmes,
881
00:38:54,620 --> 00:38:56,330
not guilty of murder.
882
00:38:56,410 --> 00:38:58,120
[reporter] John Holmes was
acquitted of first degree.
883
00:38:58,210 --> 00:38:59,670
I do not feel that
justice was served.
884
00:38:59,750 --> 00:39:01,540
[reporter #2]
Case remains unsolved,
885
00:39:01,630 --> 00:39:03,210
and we may never know
what really happened.
886
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:06,130
[Michael] But a big break
came thanks to the work
887
00:39:06,210 --> 00:39:08,680
of Detective Rick Jackson.
888
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,800
[Michael] You were
the first suit at the scene
889
00:39:11,890 --> 00:39:13,810
of the Wonderland massacre.
890
00:39:13,890 --> 00:39:15,850
It kind of came full circle
when you ended up
891
00:39:15,930 --> 00:39:18,230
bringing a key person
to that investigation.
892
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:21,230
But why don't we start
by how you met this person
893
00:39:21,310 --> 00:39:23,520
and what that case was about?
894
00:39:23,610 --> 00:39:28,200
Yeah. So I'm -- I'm a detective
assigned to Hollywood homicide.
895
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,530
It's September of '87.
896
00:39:30,610 --> 00:39:33,160
[siren wailing]
897
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:35,370
My partner and I
got called out
898
00:39:35,450 --> 00:39:39,040
to a murder that happened
on Cherokee Avenue.
899
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,170
Some suspects went in
with guns to an apartment,
900
00:39:43,250 --> 00:39:45,000
and it was
a drug rip-off,
901
00:39:45,090 --> 00:39:48,420
and there were some
sexual assaults that took place.
902
00:39:48,510 --> 00:39:52,930
Eventually, arrests were made
of a couple of suspects...
903
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,850
...and one of them
had a connection
904
00:39:56,930 --> 00:39:58,350
to the Black Guerilla Family,
905
00:39:58,430 --> 00:40:01,690
and the name Scott Thorson
comes up.
906
00:40:01,770 --> 00:40:03,690
♪♪
907
00:40:03,770 --> 00:40:06,360
[Michael]
What was that all about?
908
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,530
There was a young lady
that used to run
909
00:40:08,610 --> 00:40:11,700
these abandoned
apartment buildings with us.
910
00:40:11,780 --> 00:40:14,530
I happened to show up that day
at one of the crack houses.
911
00:40:14,620 --> 00:40:17,290
-Who are you with?
-A member of the Bloods.
912
00:40:17,370 --> 00:40:19,040
They told me
to knock on the door
913
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,790
and tell her to let them in.
914
00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:23,380
I knocked on the door,
and they pushed me aside.
915
00:40:23,460 --> 00:40:25,710
And when she opened it,
they barged in.
916
00:40:25,790 --> 00:40:28,800
That's all I had.
I didn't do any robbing.
917
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,380
I didn't do anything.
918
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:31,880
But didn't you know
what they were gonna do?
919
00:40:31,970 --> 00:40:34,390
No, he didn't tell me.
920
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:36,470
And you didn't go in?
You left?
921
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,890
No, but I know
that they raped her.
922
00:40:38,970 --> 00:40:41,230
And so that's when
a warrant was put out
923
00:40:41,310 --> 00:40:43,100
for my arrest for robbery.
924
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:45,310
And that's when
Rick Jackson came into play.
925
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,150
Actually,
he probably saved my life.
926
00:40:47,230 --> 00:40:49,070
[flash bulb crackles]
927
00:40:49,150 --> 00:40:50,570
You get arrested
by Rick Jackson?
928
00:40:50,650 --> 00:40:52,570
Yes.
929
00:40:52,650 --> 00:40:54,570
[Rick]: So I get
the warrant for Scott Thorson.
930
00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:56,490
I learned
who Scott Thorson was.
931
00:40:56,580 --> 00:40:57,950
You know, I knew that,
932
00:40:58,030 --> 00:40:59,950
you know, he was
connected to Liberace.
933
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:04,000
So in February of 1988,
934
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,630
I went to the county jail
935
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:09,170
and interviewed Scott Thorson
for the first time.
936
00:41:09,250 --> 00:41:14,180
And we connected to the extent
of he was trying to help me,
937
00:41:14,260 --> 00:41:16,800
but he's also obviously looking
out for his own interests
938
00:41:16,890 --> 00:41:19,260
'cause he potentially
was gonna go to state prison
939
00:41:19,350 --> 00:41:21,020
for this robbery.
940
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:23,020
So you're in county jail.
941
00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:26,190
County jail.
Eddie Nash pulled my bail.
942
00:41:26,270 --> 00:41:27,770
He put me there,
and he kept me there.
943
00:41:27,860 --> 00:41:31,780
It was time to get rid of me
'cause he was through with me.
944
00:41:31,860 --> 00:41:35,110
I was very angry.
He was betraying me.
945
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,950
I was very loyal
to Eddie Nash.
946
00:41:38,030 --> 00:41:40,540
I never went to police.
947
00:41:40,620 --> 00:41:45,540
I says, "Okay." I says,
"You're gonna join me soon."
948
00:41:45,620 --> 00:41:48,130
I says, "If I'm in jail,
you're gonna go too."
949
00:41:48,210 --> 00:41:50,460
[cell door clanking]
950
00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:54,130
[Michael] It's like almost
10 years after the crime.
951
00:41:54,220 --> 00:41:56,800
You have
what appears to be
952
00:41:56,890 --> 00:42:00,810
or may be new life to --
to the investigation.
953
00:42:00,890 --> 00:42:03,480
Initially, Scott Thorson
got into the wind.
954
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,640
We didn't hear from him
for years.
955
00:42:05,730 --> 00:42:08,690
Later, of course
he needed something,
956
00:42:08,770 --> 00:42:10,900
so I got a call
from the county jail.
957
00:42:10,980 --> 00:42:12,860
He wants to talk to us
'cause he's got
958
00:42:12,940 --> 00:42:15,320
information on the murders.
959
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,990
[Michael] Years after the
murders on Wonderland Avenue,
960
00:42:18,070 --> 00:42:21,450
Lange would finally meet
the man who knew too much.
961
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,670
Mac and I went over there,
and Scott looked terrible,
962
00:42:26,750 --> 00:42:31,170
and he'd been rung up
on another charge locally.
963
00:42:31,250 --> 00:42:33,340
He wanted a little help
with that, obviously,
964
00:42:33,420 --> 00:42:35,920
and he would
have something to say.
965
00:42:36,010 --> 00:42:41,350
So Rick Jackson inadvertently
got the Wonderland case
966
00:42:41,430 --> 00:42:43,770
basically out of mothballs.
-Mm-hmm.
967
00:42:43,850 --> 00:42:48,350
What Rick had done was
arrest Thorson for a robbery.
968
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:54,400
But Thorson, facing jail time,
said, "I will cooperate.
969
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,200
I was at Eddie Nash's house
the night of those murders,"
970
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,120
and that kickstarted
the whole thing again.
971
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,570
[video rewinds]
972
00:43:01,660 --> 00:43:03,870
It did.
973
00:43:03,950 --> 00:43:05,700
We were a little impatient
initially,
974
00:43:05,790 --> 00:43:07,910
but he got down to it.
975
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,630
To make a long story short,
Mr. Nash one night
976
00:43:10,710 --> 00:43:12,920
was throwing
a big, well-to-do party.
977
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,460
♪♪
978
00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:18,220
And he was robbed of over
a million dollars' worth
979
00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:20,220
of drugs, money, and jewelry.
980
00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:23,470
[breathing heavily]
981
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,310
And later that day I was in the
wrong place at the wrong time.
982
00:43:31,230 --> 00:43:33,980
Scott tells us he was
actually in the house
983
00:43:34,070 --> 00:43:37,570
when John Holmes was brought
into the house by Greg Diles.
984
00:43:37,650 --> 00:43:39,740
[Scott]
Mr. Nash found the man
985
00:43:39,820 --> 00:43:41,740
that was responsible
for setting the robberies up,
986
00:43:41,820 --> 00:43:44,580
brought him back to his house,
almost beat him to death.
987
00:43:44,660 --> 00:43:49,460
[hits thudding, man groaning]
988
00:43:49,540 --> 00:43:51,500
And then he ordered
the young man to take him
989
00:43:51,580 --> 00:43:56,300
up to Laurel Canyon
to where these people lived.
990
00:43:56,380 --> 00:44:00,430
And he ordered his bodyguard
to have these people killed.
991
00:44:00,510 --> 00:44:02,430
[hits thudding]
992
00:44:02,510 --> 00:44:04,930
Four people died.
993
00:44:05,010 --> 00:44:08,640
They had holes about the size
of a baseball in their heads.
994
00:44:08,730 --> 00:44:10,690
Greg Diles hit one
of the victims so hard
995
00:44:10,770 --> 00:44:14,440
that it left an indentation
from the pipe in the forehead.
996
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,270
They didn't go public
with that.
997
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,190
How'd you know about it?
998
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,780
I heard Gregory Diles
tell Nash
999
00:44:20,860 --> 00:44:22,780
that he hit the victim
so hard
1000
00:44:22,860 --> 00:44:24,780
that the pipe threads left
an indentation.
1001
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:27,330
There were five victims
involved.
1002
00:44:27,410 --> 00:44:29,120
One victim survived.
1003
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,120
By the grace of God,
she survived.
1004
00:44:30,210 --> 00:44:31,290
They cut her finger off.
1005
00:44:31,370 --> 00:44:33,000
It launched
one of the biggest
1006
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,340
and the most massive crime
investigations in Los Angeles.
1007
00:44:37,420 --> 00:44:39,670
[Michael]
Based on this new information
1008
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,300
coming from Scott Thorson,
1009
00:44:41,380 --> 00:44:45,300
you go back to the DA,
and you build a case,
1010
00:44:45,390 --> 00:44:48,810
a new case against Nash
and Greg Diles.
1011
00:44:48,890 --> 00:44:50,730
-They're charged with murder.
-Right.
1012
00:44:50,810 --> 00:44:54,600
[man] Deputy District Attorney
Carol Najera. Marker.
1013
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:57,570
Somewhat out of the blue
1014
00:44:57,650 --> 00:44:59,650
comes this guy
named Scott Thorson
1015
00:44:59,730 --> 00:45:01,820
that kind of resuscitates
the case.
1016
00:45:01,900 --> 00:45:03,990
Can you talk about
that history, how it --
1017
00:45:04,070 --> 00:45:05,160
it was the case
it wouldn't go away,
1018
00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:07,660
and then it suddenly
came back?
1019
00:45:07,740 --> 00:45:10,540
When Scott Thorson
came forward,
1020
00:45:10,620 --> 00:45:13,540
Tom Lange and Mac McClain
vetted him a lot.
1021
00:45:13,620 --> 00:45:16,500
By the time they were convinced
that he actually had something
1022
00:45:16,580 --> 00:45:18,170
that was actual,
credible evidence
1023
00:45:18,250 --> 00:45:19,670
that could be used
in this case,
1024
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:21,340
they both came to me
and asked
1025
00:45:21,420 --> 00:45:23,220
if I would like to join
the organized crime unit
1026
00:45:23,300 --> 00:45:24,840
and do the Wonderland case.
1027
00:45:24,930 --> 00:45:26,180
And I thought it was
an amazing opportunity,
1028
00:45:26,260 --> 00:45:28,180
so of course
I jumped on it.
1029
00:45:28,260 --> 00:45:29,680
So what was the first thing
you had to do--
1030
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,850
take a deep dive into
who Eddie Nash was?
1031
00:45:31,930 --> 00:45:34,730
Exactly.
I read a lot of articles.
1032
00:45:34,810 --> 00:45:38,190
I read a lot
of police reports on him,
1033
00:45:38,270 --> 00:45:42,400
and then I read the transcripts
from the John Holmes trial
1034
00:45:42,490 --> 00:45:43,700
that Judge Cohen had done,
1035
00:45:43,780 --> 00:45:45,860
as well as
the drug trafficking case
1036
00:45:45,950 --> 00:45:49,740
that he had successfully
prosecuted Eddie Nash on.
1037
00:45:49,830 --> 00:45:51,870
[Michael]
With the DA on board,
1038
00:45:51,950 --> 00:45:55,210
the detectives then proceeded
to arrest Nash and Diles.
1039
00:45:55,290 --> 00:45:56,580
[siren wailing]
1040
00:45:56,670 --> 00:45:58,710
You and Tom split up
to make these arrests.
1041
00:45:58,790 --> 00:46:01,960
Yes, 'cause we figure
if Nash gets in jail
1042
00:46:02,050 --> 00:46:05,090
and warns Diles,
Diles is gone.
1043
00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:10,720
They arrest Nash.
We're going to Diles.
1044
00:46:10,810 --> 00:46:12,720
We go to the Seven Seas,
1045
00:46:12,810 --> 00:46:15,060
where he works
as a parking lot attendant.
1046
00:46:15,140 --> 00:46:18,480
We arrest him.
We get in the car.
1047
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,320
I'm sitting next to him,
and he looks over and he goes,
1048
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,110
"What am I being
arrested for?"
1049
00:46:23,190 --> 00:46:25,610
I go, "Murder."
He goes, "Hmm."
1050
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:27,280
That's all he said.
1051
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,450
[jet engines roaring]
1052
00:46:31,700 --> 00:46:34,410
I'm flying to Las Vegas,
short flight,
1053
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:37,290
and I'm, you know,
reading the LA Times.
1054
00:46:37,370 --> 00:46:39,670
And all of a sudden
I see an article.
1055
00:46:39,750 --> 00:46:41,090
I knew
it was about Wonderland,
1056
00:46:41,170 --> 00:46:44,300
and I started reading it.
1057
00:46:44,380 --> 00:46:47,760
♪♪
1058
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,430
And kind of like,
"Holy shit."
1059
00:46:50,510 --> 00:46:53,930
The article confirmed
that Scott Thorson,
1060
00:46:54,020 --> 00:46:57,100
who was in custody
for a robbery --
1061
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:58,850
my robbery --
1062
00:46:58,940 --> 00:47:03,110
um, had come forward by
meeting with the DA's office
1063
00:47:03,190 --> 00:47:04,940
and the detectives
on the Wonderland murders.
1064
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:06,950
♪♪
1065
00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:10,450
[Michael] So for his involvement
as the key witness,
1066
00:47:10,530 --> 00:47:13,280
what happened with
Thorson's robbery charges?
1067
00:47:13,370 --> 00:47:15,040
They weren't dismissed.
1068
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,290
He was allowed to plead guilty
to a felony robbery,
1069
00:47:18,370 --> 00:47:20,170
but he served no time
other than the time
1070
00:47:20,250 --> 00:47:22,500
that he had served up
to the point.
1071
00:47:22,590 --> 00:47:25,000
♪♪
1072
00:47:25,090 --> 00:47:26,800
The murder charges
against Nash and Diles
1073
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,970
were going to hinge
on Scott's testimony.
1074
00:47:31,050 --> 00:47:34,890
But your key witness now
is not that much better
1075
00:47:34,970 --> 00:47:37,810
than -- than Holmes, right?
1076
00:47:37,890 --> 00:47:40,650
I mean, this is a guy
who has a criminal record.
1077
00:47:40,730 --> 00:47:42,650
He also
has drug problems.
1078
00:47:42,730 --> 00:47:45,070
How do you
go about making him
1079
00:47:45,150 --> 00:47:47,360
that -- that strong witness
in court?
1080
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,700
♪♪
1081
00:47:49,780 --> 00:47:52,070
[Tom] Well, making him
a strong witness,
1082
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,660
it's not real easy to do.
1083
00:47:53,740 --> 00:47:57,330
Our problem was that,
much like John Holmes,
1084
00:47:57,410 --> 00:47:59,500
he does, in fact, talk out of
both sides of his mouth.
1085
00:47:59,580 --> 00:48:01,000
Oh, yeah.
1086
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,090
Scott, um, he'll forever be
able to tell stories
1087
00:48:04,170 --> 00:48:07,760
which sometimes seem kind of
over the top and bizarre,
1088
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,180
but a lot of them,
I've learned, have been true.
1089
00:48:11,260 --> 00:48:14,100
When he starts telling
the story,
1090
00:48:14,180 --> 00:48:15,680
he gets very animated
1091
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,180
telling what happened
that night.
1092
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:19,770
But a problem you have
when you have somebody
1093
00:48:19,850 --> 00:48:21,350
in jail as a witness,
1094
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,730
the first thing the Defense
is going to say,
1095
00:48:23,810 --> 00:48:25,770
"You got
a jailhouse snitch."
1096
00:48:25,860 --> 00:48:27,360
And so
you have to weigh that.
1097
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,190
Do we believe him enough,
1098
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,240
or is he just trying
to use us
1099
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,370
to get out of jail?
1100
00:48:34,450 --> 00:48:38,080
[Michael] Okay, so I --
I write books. I write novels,
1101
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,460
and a device I use is something
called the unreliable narrator.
1102
00:48:41,540 --> 00:48:42,960
Do you know
what that means?
1103
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,080
-Not really. [chuckles]
-Okay.
1104
00:48:45,170 --> 00:48:48,880
So it's where you take a very
important person in a story,
1105
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,760
and you don't know whether
they're telling the truth,
1106
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,220
and you have to try
to figure that out.
1107
00:48:54,300 --> 00:48:56,050
And that's a little bit of
what we're doing now with you.
1108
00:48:56,140 --> 00:48:58,310
Well, I think --
I think some
1109
00:48:58,390 --> 00:49:02,270
of these unbelievable stories
that you mentioned,
1110
00:49:02,350 --> 00:49:05,610
you're a good author.
You're a good investigator.
1111
00:49:05,690 --> 00:49:08,730
I don't think you found
anything that was untrue.
1112
00:49:08,820 --> 00:49:10,780
I'm telling the truth.
I've lived the life.
1113
00:49:10,860 --> 00:49:12,240
That's all I can say.
1114
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,570
Believe me,
or you don't believe me.
1115
00:49:14,660 --> 00:49:17,990
I'm telling the truth.
I have no reason to lie.
1116
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,830
Your client murdered
those people,
1117
00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:21,080
had those people
murdered.
1118
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,080
I heard it, I saw it.
1119
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,420
I saw Mr. Diles
and Mr. Holmes.
1120
00:49:25,500 --> 00:49:29,090
And there isn't anything you can
do and say that I'm lying now.
1121
00:49:29,170 --> 00:49:31,420
That man is a murderer
right there.
1122
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:33,590
♪♪
1123
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,550
♪♪86270
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