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[mellow music plays]
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[Connelly]
Los Angeles--
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a city infamous
for its music and movies...
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[man] Action!
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...is also defined
by its murders.
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[man screaming]
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It seems to set
the City of Angels apart,
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capturing the world's attention.
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The randomness of murder
plays out
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beneath the bright lights
of Hollywood--
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the boulevard
of broken dreams--
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and seeps into the veins
of the American zeitgeist.
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I'm Michael Connelly, and
I came here nearly 40 years ago,
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drawn by the movies, the music,
and, yes, the murders.
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This dark pantheon includes
the Black Dahlia,
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the Hillside Strangler,
the Manson case,
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the O.J. Simpson case,
the slaying of Biggie Smalls,
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just to name a few.
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But perhaps no other case
symbolizes an era in Los Angeles
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more than
the Wonderland massacre.
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[cameraman]
Okay, camera's rolling.
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[male news anchor] Four murder
victims were found today
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in a posh Hollywood Hills home.
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Police said all four had been
beaten to death in a struggle
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that splattered the interior
of the house with blood.
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[male news anchor 2]
A Manson-like mass murder.
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[Connelly] The tentacles
of the case would ensnare
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a porn star,
a corrupt judge,
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and drug kingpin Pablo Escobar.
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Multiple celebrities
would be swept into the story
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by Liberace's boy toy,
enigma Scott Thorson.
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To this day, no one has
been held directly accountable.
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For many, including me, it has
been a decades long obsession.
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[mysterious music plays]
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♪♪
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[insects chirping]
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[mid-tempo jazz plays]
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Most of my work, whether it's
in a newspaper story
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or in my novels,
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most of my work's
about what it takes
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to do this work as a detective.
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To be relentless
in your pursuit of something.
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And so I have this case,
40 years later,
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still bother people
like Tom Lange and, um,
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Detective Bob Sousa,
and, uh, and Rick Jackson.
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That connects with me
in some way.
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So I guess it's all part
of the inspirational process
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for what I do.
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[Connelly]
You've had 30 years
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of interactions
with Scott Thorson.
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It seems like, uh,
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you needed to keep
a Thorson journal
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for all the interactions
you've had
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over the decades with him.
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He just kept appearing
in my life,
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and little did I know that
I would be dealing with him
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for a long period of time
after Wonderland.
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And here we are
doing a documentary
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with Scott Thorson.
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[Connelly]
I know it's 40 years ago,
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but I just want your
best, truthful memory.
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You have people who
believe everything you said.
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You've had people
that, uh,
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are not sure of
the things you said.
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So I think a lot of people
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who watch this will be making
those kind of judgments.
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I walked into something that,
you know, was an accident,
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and I-I was scared to death.
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I knew a lot about
the murders. A lot.
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Why, how I survived that
is a mystery.
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Okay, so, yeah, let's talk
specifically about that night.
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So, where were you
June 30, 1981?
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[ominous music plays]
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I was at Eddie Nash's
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because I was addicted
to cocaine.
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-So you go over to Nash's.
-Yeah.
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And Nash opened the door.
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Nash never dressed.
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He was always in
his skivvies. [chuckles]
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Just like Boogie Nights.
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And he answered the door
and he said, "Scott."
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He says,
"I've just been robbed."
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And he explained
what happened.
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He told me that they stuck
a gun down his throat.
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They forced him
to open the safe.
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They took jewelry,
they took guns, cash, cocaine.
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About a million dollars'
worth of stuff was missing.
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And, uh, you don't do that
to Eddie Nash.
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Nash had a monitor.
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Next thing I know, on camera
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comes Greg Diles
with John Holmes
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by the back of the neck.
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[Diles] Come on.
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Now, did you know
who John Holmes was?
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Yes. He was the biggest
porn star at that time.
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Then Nash came in,
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and Diles beat the shit
out of him.
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Nash was screaming.
He says, "I'll kill you."
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He says, "You get back my stuff.
You take us there."
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He wanted revenge.
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So you heard him
say this.
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Oh, yes. He gave the order
for Greg Diles
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to go up there
and kill him.
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[shouting]
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So Greg Diles proceeded
to take Holmes out the door
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to go to Wonderland.
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[car engine starts]
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[tires squeal]
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♪♪
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♪♪
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So you're sitting
in the living room
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when they come
back in, what is it,
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like hours later?
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Wasn't that long.
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Wonderland was just
right up the street from Nash.
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-Who came in? Diles?
-Greg Diles and John Holmes.
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What'd they look like
when they came in?
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They had blood on 'em.
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Diles--
I didn't hear exactly
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what he said
to Eddie Nash,
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but you could tell
the job was done.
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♪♪
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But they couldn't find
David Lind.
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They were after
David Lind.
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And David Lind is doing the
stick the gun down his throat.
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But he wasn't around.
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The girls were.
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The poor girls
were the victims.
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But did he talk about
the importance of it
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being a message?
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That sent
a horrible message
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across Hollywood.
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That's when
I really got scared
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'cause I was
in the wrong place
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at the wrong time.
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Why were you still there?
'Cause--
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Because I was waiting
for the pound of cocaine.
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Why did you need
a pound of cocaine?
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Well, because I was
traveling a lot with Liberace.
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We were
going to start a tour,
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and so I always wanted
enough to take with me.
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Let's go back to Liberace
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and your relationship
with him.
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Can you tell me a little bit
about how that started?
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[piano keys playing]
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[piano plays]
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[cheers and applause]
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You had this job
where you
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drove the Rolls-Royce
out on stage.
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You're in a white
chauffeur outfit.
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[cheers and applause continue]
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[piano continues playing]
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Yeah, I would deliver him
to his audience
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with $1 million Rolls-Royce,
and he'd get out.
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And he would introduce me.
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I want you to meet
my friend over there.
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That's Scott Thorson.
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[cheers and applause]
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Thank you, Scott.
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And then I would
drive off, "Bye, Scott."
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Let's say goodbye
to Scott, okay?
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We'll see you later, Scott.
Bye-bye.
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[cheers and applause]
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What did that do for
you to be on the stage
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and be that
kind of center of attention?
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I didn't want to do it
at the beginning
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'cause I was too afraid.
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But I did it.
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I would do anything
to please him
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and never went home
after that.
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-Where is this? Las Vegas?
-Las Vegas, yeah.
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When you were, what,
17 years old?
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I was about 17.
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Yeah.
I think it just turned.
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And being with Liberace
opened your world to--
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to a world
of celebrity fashion.
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All these things.
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You know, I never had
a very good childhood.
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I went through 17 foster homes
and two orphanages.
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And then to be thrown
into the glamour and the glitz
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and the wealth of Liberace.
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And it was exciting,
you know?
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This is my bedroom.
How do you like it?
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It's French Victorian, and most
of the furnishings are antique.
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[Thorson]
It was just overwhelming.
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He's probably got about 20
to $30 million just in antiques.
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The candelabras are
from a Spanish church.
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[Thorson] 18 candles
in the Las Vegas home.
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And he had a piano in one
of the bathrooms even.
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This ring that I'm wearing
right here.
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When he was in South Africa,
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he brought back
two Krugerrand coins.
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Between the two coins,
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there is an "S" that's spelled
out here done in diamonds.
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[Thorson]
I'm a man that wore
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a quarter of $1 million
on one hand.
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I had all the riches
in the world.
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He used to say to me--
he says,
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"You're the luckiest boy
in the world."
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He said, "You know
how many other boys
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would like to be
in your position?"
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And he says, "Your job
is to make me happy.
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You have
the most important job
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in the organization."
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I said, "Okay,"
and that's what I did.
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I didn't want to go back
to the foster homes.
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He wanted to adopt me.
He wanted me for his son.
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So when you said
he wanted you as a son,
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was that as a cover,
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or were you like the son
he never had?
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Well, he said, "You're the son
that I've never had,"
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but I also believed that
it was a cover for him.
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This is the master bath
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with twin sinks.
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They call them his and hers,
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but since I'm a bachelor,
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I use them both myself.
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[Thorson] What he kept from
the public and from the world
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was he kept that--
that hidden secret
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that he was a homosexual.
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He used to call me Boober.
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He said, "Hey, Boob,
do you really think
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they think I'm gay?"
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I said, "Any man
that gets on stage
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and dances in 150 pounds
of pink ostrich feathers"--
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I said, "Oh, yes, that's why
they think you're gay,
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but you're the queen."
[chuckles]
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What I finally realized that
Lee did not want me as his son,
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but he also had plans
as me to be his lover.
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I was devastated
because here we had this
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father and son
relationship,
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and it was something
that I was fighting.
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I would run away,
he'd bring me back;
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and I'd run away,
he'd bring me back.
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It was a --
It was horrible.
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It was a hate and love
relationship
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that I had with him.
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He was 45 years my senior.
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I was just a kid.
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I think they call that now--
he was grooming me.
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Liberace called me into
his master bedroom one day,
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and there was a famous
plastic surgeon in there
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by the name of Dr. Jack Startz.
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And Lee wanted me
to look more like him,
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to look like his son.
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What they did was
they rebuilt my entire face,
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they added acrylic implant
to my chin.
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They rebuilt my cheekbones.
They gave me a nose job.
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[Connelly] It was the first
of three plastic surgeries
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that Scott claims
Liberace had him endure,
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including one that
involved Michael Jackson.
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What's that story?
253
00:11:05,790 --> 00:11:07,620
Michael and I
became very close
254
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when Liberace introduced me
to Michael.
255
00:11:12,170 --> 00:11:15,000
Later on, Liberace decided
to have plastic surgery.
256
00:11:15,090 --> 00:11:16,960
Michael decided
to have his nose done.
257
00:11:17,050 --> 00:11:19,550
I was having my chin done
and nose.
258
00:11:19,630 --> 00:11:22,970
So we had it
on the same day.
259
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It was funny.
260
00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,180
But the doctor came
and he was drunk
261
00:11:28,270 --> 00:11:30,890
when he was shooting
Liberace full of Demerol.
262
00:11:30,980 --> 00:11:33,230
I had to take
the needle away from him.
263
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I had to do it,
he was so drunk.
264
00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,280
I almost feel kind of guilty
about Michael having
265
00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,570
his nose job 'cause
I introduced him to the doctor.
266
00:11:43,660 --> 00:11:45,910
And that's what started
the plastic surgery.
267
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He didn't like his nose.
268
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He always hated his looks.
He thought he was ugly.
269
00:11:53,830 --> 00:11:55,540
Later on,
I was living in France
270
00:11:55,630 --> 00:11:58,510
with Lee for a while,
271
00:11:58,590 --> 00:12:00,800
and I developed
about 60 pounds.
272
00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:02,430
I gained over weight.
273
00:12:03,930 --> 00:12:06,510
So the plastic surgeon put me
on the Hollywood diet,
274
00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,770
he called it, which was
pharmaceutical cocaine,
275
00:12:09,850 --> 00:12:13,440
Quaaludes and Demerol.
276
00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,900
That's how my drug habits
started.
277
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I'd never touched
a drug before then.
278
00:12:20,110 --> 00:12:21,320
Was that
that Scarz guy? Startz?
279
00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,780
Jack Startz.
280
00:12:22,860 --> 00:12:26,370
He was a horrible man.
281
00:12:30,620 --> 00:12:32,460
[Connelly] Scott Thorson's
growing drug addiction
282
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had unwittingly put him
and Liberace
283
00:12:35,540 --> 00:12:38,750
on a collision course
with Eddie Nash.
284
00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,840
How did you and Liberace
285
00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,800
end up in the orbit
of a guy named Eddie Nash?
286
00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,640
Well, Chris Cox was one
of Liberace's close friends,
287
00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,720
and Chris is the one
that introduced us.
288
00:12:49,810 --> 00:12:53,020
We wanted to buy into the
nightclub business with Eddie.
289
00:12:53,100 --> 00:12:55,810
So was Chris Cox running
one of the nightclubs?
290
00:12:55,900 --> 00:12:59,150
Yes, he was
running the Odyssey.
291
00:13:00,230 --> 00:13:03,740
But were you aware of Nash
owning a number of clubs?
292
00:13:03,820 --> 00:13:09,160
Oh, yes. Yes. The whole purpose
was to buy into the clubs.
293
00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,240
Nash thought it
would be a great idea
294
00:13:11,330 --> 00:13:12,580
because I was with Liberace,
295
00:13:12,660 --> 00:13:14,160
you know,
the glitz and glamour.
296
00:13:14,250 --> 00:13:16,290
He wanted the publicity
297
00:13:16,370 --> 00:13:18,040
and he wanted to
take over Hollywood.
298
00:13:18,130 --> 00:13:19,750
He wanted to be number one
nightclub owner.
299
00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,670
He had the Kit Kat clubs,
300
00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:23,550
he had Seven Seas,
301
00:13:23,630 --> 00:13:25,880
he had
the Starwood in Hollywood.
302
00:13:25,970 --> 00:13:28,600
But he wanted to to go more
towards the gay crowd.
303
00:13:28,680 --> 00:13:31,140
♪ We're a long way from home ♪
304
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♪ Welcome to the Pleasuredome ♪
305
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♪ On our way home ♪
306
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♪♪
307
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They called me
a pretty boy back in the day.
308
00:13:44,740 --> 00:13:46,950
And I had every
celebrity chasing me.
309
00:13:47,030 --> 00:13:49,570
And it was always
drugs involved.
310
00:13:49,660 --> 00:13:51,580
And they were selling
quite a bit of cocaine
311
00:13:51,660 --> 00:13:53,250
out of the clubs.
312
00:13:53,330 --> 00:13:54,830
So do you know
what the deal was?
313
00:13:54,910 --> 00:13:57,920
It was Liberace's money.
What did he buy into?
314
00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,040
Well, he bought into
a percentage of the clubs
315
00:14:00,130 --> 00:14:03,130
and the properties.
316
00:14:03,210 --> 00:14:04,670
Liberace was excited.
317
00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,510
He thought it would be
a good investment.
318
00:14:06,590 --> 00:14:08,300
He gave the money
to Nash.
319
00:14:08,390 --> 00:14:09,760
You know
how much he invested?
320
00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,560
It was about $3 million.
321
00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:12,600
Do you know how much
you were collecting
322
00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:14,430
every month from him?
323
00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,890
Oh, it would be
over $100,000.
324
00:14:16,980 --> 00:14:18,390
And it would be in cash?
325
00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:19,900
It's cash, yeah.
326
00:14:19,980 --> 00:14:22,730
Liberace called it
his mad money. [chuckles]
327
00:14:22,820 --> 00:14:24,940
'Cause it was
never reported to the IRS.
328
00:14:25,030 --> 00:14:26,860
It was very successful.
329
00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:36,160
[Eggar] I've met Scott Thorson
in clubs that Eddie Nash owned.
330
00:14:36,250 --> 00:14:38,120
This was within
the time, I believe,
331
00:14:38,210 --> 00:14:39,790
he was with Liberace.
332
00:14:39,870 --> 00:14:43,250
But he didn't bring Liberace
with him to this club.
333
00:14:43,340 --> 00:14:46,130
He was just somebody
who was there quite a bit,
334
00:14:46,210 --> 00:14:49,130
and I recognized him
from the pictures.
335
00:14:49,220 --> 00:14:50,800
We were going
to these clubs,
336
00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:53,180
a lot of frequency,
to be seen
337
00:14:53,260 --> 00:14:55,520
and for people to be
comfortable around us
338
00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,430
so that we could start
asking questions
339
00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,600
about getting,
you know, a dime bag.
340
00:15:00,690 --> 00:15:04,520
And was it successful
in terms of intel gathering?
341
00:15:04,610 --> 00:15:07,240
-Or did you make cases?
-We made cases.
342
00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,160
We also looked at people
who brought drugs
343
00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,280
to the
entertainment industry.
344
00:15:12,370 --> 00:15:14,160
There were a couple
of production crews
345
00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,120
that were shut down...
346
00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,750
because built
into contracts
347
00:15:19,830 --> 00:15:22,290
for making of a movie
or a TV series,
348
00:15:22,380 --> 00:15:25,170
they would allow for money
to be allocated
349
00:15:25,250 --> 00:15:27,090
to go pick up cocaine.
350
00:15:27,170 --> 00:15:30,760
Because if you're just three
hours short in your production
351
00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,090
and you can keep
everybody going,
352
00:15:33,180 --> 00:15:35,510
they'd go pick up coke,
everybody would split it,
353
00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,140
and they'd keep going
and finish it up.
354
00:15:38,220 --> 00:15:41,230
There was only one case
that made the headlines.
355
00:15:41,310 --> 00:15:42,690
-A celebrity, do you mean?
-Yes.
356
00:15:42,770 --> 00:15:44,190
And who is that?
357
00:15:44,270 --> 00:15:47,820
Dan Haggerty
who was Grizzly Adams.
358
00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,570
You weren't targeting
celebrities.
359
00:15:51,660 --> 00:15:53,110
You were targeting
the people
360
00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,910
that were giving
celebrities the drugs.
361
00:15:54,990 --> 00:15:56,580
Yes.
362
00:15:56,660 --> 00:16:01,790
We were are looking
specifically at Eddie Nash.
363
00:16:01,870 --> 00:16:04,210
When Liberace made
this investment,
364
00:16:04,290 --> 00:16:06,670
did he know that Nash
was also a drug dealer?
365
00:16:06,750 --> 00:16:08,460
Well, we didn't know anything.
366
00:16:08,550 --> 00:16:10,090
we didn't know who we were
getting in bed with.
367
00:16:12,630 --> 00:16:14,590
We didn't know anything
about him being one
368
00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:15,890
of the biggest drug dealers.
369
00:16:15,970 --> 00:16:17,600
We would have never done it.
370
00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,390
If you guys all went
into this investment
371
00:16:19,470 --> 00:16:22,390
not knowing about this
other part of Nash's life,
372
00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:24,480
how did you discover it?
From going to the house?
373
00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,310
Right.
374
00:16:27,860 --> 00:16:29,940
You were making
monthly trips
375
00:16:30,030 --> 00:16:31,030
to Nash's house
from Vegas.
376
00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:33,530
Yes.
377
00:16:33,610 --> 00:16:36,370
You get the money,
and I guess you were exposed
378
00:16:36,450 --> 00:16:38,450
to what's going on in the house
with drugs and so forth.
379
00:16:38,540 --> 00:16:40,290
Yes.
380
00:16:42,410 --> 00:16:46,210
Then Nash became
a new drug dealer.
381
00:16:46,290 --> 00:16:48,000
And so you were making
monthly pickups
382
00:16:48,090 --> 00:16:51,130
of the Mad Money
and getting drugs for yourself?
383
00:16:51,210 --> 00:16:52,340
Yeah.
384
00:16:52,420 --> 00:16:53,920
Did Liberace
know about that?
385
00:16:54,010 --> 00:16:55,890
The drugs you were
also getting for yourself?
386
00:16:55,970 --> 00:16:57,100
No.
387
00:16:57,180 --> 00:16:58,560
So, how long were
you and Liberace
388
00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,060
in business with Nash
389
00:17:00,140 --> 00:17:02,600
before that fateful
night of June 30th?
390
00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,020
It was shortly
after that.
391
00:17:04,100 --> 00:17:06,770
So it was like only
a few months into that?
392
00:17:06,860 --> 00:17:07,980
Yeah, it was very short.
393
00:17:08,060 --> 00:17:11,190
[melancholy music plays]
394
00:17:12,940 --> 00:17:15,910
Let's go back
to June 30, 1981.
395
00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:18,530
You go over
to Nash's house.
396
00:17:18,620 --> 00:17:20,450
I mean, the story has
changed over the years
397
00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:22,290
that you heard
Eddie Nash say,
398
00:17:22,370 --> 00:17:24,330
"Go get my money
and drugs."
399
00:17:24,410 --> 00:17:27,080
Which is not the same
as "Go kill them,"
400
00:17:27,170 --> 00:17:28,540
even though he still--
401
00:17:28,630 --> 00:17:30,250
No, he wanted revenge.
402
00:17:30,340 --> 00:17:33,050
-So you heard him say this?
-Oh, yes. Yes.
403
00:17:33,130 --> 00:17:36,720
Gregory Diles, uh,
had only one intention.
404
00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,470
And that was to kill
these people
405
00:17:38,550 --> 00:17:40,600
and get back his things.
406
00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,470
Because nobody did that
to Eddie Nash.
407
00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,060
They had to set an example
408
00:17:44,140 --> 00:17:46,140
because he was the kingpin
of Hollywood.
409
00:17:46,230 --> 00:17:48,230
So this is about his pride
410
00:17:48,310 --> 00:17:50,320
and making sure
no one did this.
411
00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,480
He had a huge ego.
412
00:17:52,570 --> 00:17:57,320
So the police say
that Diles and Holmes,
413
00:17:57,410 --> 00:17:59,370
whether he's a willing
participant or not,
414
00:17:59,450 --> 00:18:01,790
could not have done this,
there had to be other people.
415
00:18:01,870 --> 00:18:03,660
Were there other people in
the house that went with them?
416
00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:05,040
No, there wasn't.
417
00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:07,080
I believe
they were met though.
418
00:18:07,170 --> 00:18:09,670
I believe there were
other people involved.
419
00:18:09,750 --> 00:18:12,880
That's when I really
got scared, you know,
420
00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,130
because I felt
that I knew too much.
421
00:18:15,220 --> 00:18:16,670
Did he give you
any kind of warning
422
00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,590
about keep your mouth shut
as you were leaving?
423
00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,100
Oh, yeah. He says it's best
not to talk about this.
424
00:18:22,180 --> 00:18:25,180
And, uh, you know,
I really got scared.
425
00:18:25,270 --> 00:18:26,180
I didn't know what to do.
426
00:18:28,140 --> 00:18:29,900
You know, I went back
to the airport,
427
00:18:29,980 --> 00:18:33,610
got on the jet,
went back to Las Vegas,
428
00:18:33,690 --> 00:18:36,360
and then told Liberace
what happened.
429
00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,070
[male news anchor]
A bad cocaine deal
430
00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:39,700
may have led to the beating
death of four people
431
00:18:39,780 --> 00:18:41,870
in a Hollywood Hills home
three weeks ago.
432
00:18:41,950 --> 00:18:43,990
The next thing you know,
it's all over the news.
433
00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,500
Los Angeles police
investigating those murders
434
00:18:46,580 --> 00:18:48,250
today said they're
questioning a nightclub owner
435
00:18:48,330 --> 00:18:51,380
who was arrested on
narcotics charges July 10th.
436
00:18:51,460 --> 00:18:54,500
But officers say that
Eddie Nash Nasrallah is only one
437
00:18:54,590 --> 00:18:56,380
of several people
who is being interviewed
438
00:18:56,460 --> 00:19:00,340
and is not necessarily
a suspect at this time.
439
00:19:00,430 --> 00:19:01,800
And Liberace just screamed.
440
00:19:01,890 --> 00:19:03,890
He said, "Oh, my God,
what did we get into?"
441
00:19:03,970 --> 00:19:06,560
Was there any discussion about,
"We got to call the cops"?
442
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,180
Liberace didn't want
to get involved in it,
443
00:19:08,270 --> 00:19:09,890
so he wasn't going
to call the police.
444
00:19:09,980 --> 00:19:12,520
He was just very scared.
He was very nervous.
445
00:19:12,610 --> 00:19:18,490
And that, you know,
he got in bed with a killer.
446
00:19:18,570 --> 00:19:20,360
And was this when
Liberace found out
447
00:19:20,450 --> 00:19:22,410
about your drug issues?
448
00:19:22,490 --> 00:19:25,120
I was in the mansion.
I was in there talking to him.
449
00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,870
I had my cocaine
laying on my lap,
450
00:19:27,950 --> 00:19:30,790
and that's when Liberace
took it and flushed it.
451
00:19:30,870 --> 00:19:32,920
And then I chased him
down the hallway,
452
00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,170
and I went to grab him
453
00:19:36,250 --> 00:19:38,840
and my ring got caught
in his hair.
454
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,390
It was a toupee,
and it tore the toupee off.
455
00:19:42,470 --> 00:19:44,970
[laughs]
456
00:19:45,050 --> 00:19:47,520
And he just screamed.
He put his hands up
457
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,020
because he was so sensitive
about his hair, you know?
458
00:19:51,100 --> 00:19:53,770
And I felt bad about that,
but it was funny.
459
00:19:53,860 --> 00:19:56,190
So was that kind of
the beginning of the end?
460
00:19:56,270 --> 00:19:57,780
-of the relationship?
-Yeah. Oh, yeah.
461
00:19:57,860 --> 00:19:59,490
He said,
"I created a monster."
462
00:20:00,650 --> 00:20:04,030
-He became very paranoid.
-It's understandable.
463
00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:06,740
He was living
a completely secret life,
464
00:20:06,830 --> 00:20:08,830
not only with you,
but also worried about
465
00:20:08,910 --> 00:20:10,200
this guy, Eddie Nash,
466
00:20:10,290 --> 00:20:11,790
that he brought
into his world.
467
00:20:11,870 --> 00:20:14,210
What I'm trying to get at
is this, like,
468
00:20:14,290 --> 00:20:16,000
double life
of Liberace, this--
469
00:20:16,090 --> 00:20:18,340
this performer
who could go on
470
00:20:18,420 --> 00:20:21,590
and not show any strain
of what's going on in his life.
471
00:20:21,670 --> 00:20:23,090
How was he able to do that?
472
00:20:23,180 --> 00:20:25,350
He was a showman.
473
00:20:25,430 --> 00:20:27,310
Everything else
he'd blank out.
474
00:20:27,390 --> 00:20:29,930
[cheers and applause]
475
00:20:30,020 --> 00:20:33,520
Well, I've done my part
for motion pictures.
476
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,610
I've stopped making them.
477
00:20:35,690 --> 00:20:37,690
[laughter]
478
00:20:37,770 --> 00:20:39,480
When was the last time
you saw him?
479
00:20:39,570 --> 00:20:41,150
-You knew he was--
-It was the night of the, uh--
480
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,450
It was the Oscars.
He performed.
481
00:20:43,530 --> 00:20:46,530
[piano playing]
482
00:20:49,740 --> 00:20:51,620
Liberace once told me--
he says,
483
00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:54,960
"I'm in charge on stage."
484
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,460
He says, "I can control that."
485
00:20:56,540 --> 00:20:58,800
[cheers and applause]
486
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,340
Thank you, thank you.
487
00:21:00,420 --> 00:21:02,090
He says, "I feel safe,
488
00:21:02,170 --> 00:21:05,590
and that's when
I'm the happiest."
489
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,390
But off camera
and off that stage,
490
00:21:08,470 --> 00:21:11,810
when he became Lee,
he was in fear.
491
00:21:11,890 --> 00:21:14,190
He wasn't in control
of his life.
492
00:21:14,270 --> 00:21:15,850
He feared people.
493
00:21:15,940 --> 00:21:19,320
So Eddie Nash must have been
one of those he feared.
494
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,610
Oh, absolutely.
495
00:21:20,690 --> 00:21:22,820
I mean, we didn't know--
I was in fear.
496
00:21:22,900 --> 00:21:26,110
We didn't know who he was
until it was too late.
497
00:21:28,370 --> 00:21:29,870
[Connelly]
Soon after the Oscars,
498
00:21:29,950 --> 00:21:31,240
Liberace left Los Angeles
499
00:21:31,330 --> 00:21:34,000
for his mansion
in Palm Springs.
500
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,620
Scott Thorson
stayed behind in L.A.
501
00:21:36,710 --> 00:21:38,630
in the penthouse
apartment Liberace kept
502
00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:40,630
on Beverly Boulevard.
503
00:21:40,710 --> 00:21:42,710
That is, until
several security men
504
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,760
working for the showman
505
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,340
arrived to evict him,
506
00:21:46,430 --> 00:21:48,470
informing him
that his relationship
507
00:21:48,550 --> 00:21:52,600
and employ
with Liberace was over.
508
00:21:53,980 --> 00:21:57,560
[Thorson] That's when it was
determined that I must go
509
00:21:57,650 --> 00:21:59,650
because of my association,
510
00:21:59,730 --> 00:22:01,860
and in dealing
with the drugs
511
00:22:01,940 --> 00:22:05,150
and getting involved
with Eddie Nash.
512
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,820
Liberace's security
took my clothing,
513
00:22:08,910 --> 00:22:11,030
everything that
I had in there,
514
00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:14,120
threw it over the balcony
five stories down
515
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,540
in black plastic bags.
516
00:22:17,620 --> 00:22:19,630
He threw me out
of the penthouse.
517
00:22:19,710 --> 00:22:21,170
He wanted to get rid of me
518
00:22:21,250 --> 00:22:24,300
because he was in fear
that I became this monster.
519
00:22:24,380 --> 00:22:27,680
And he didn't want
his reputation ruined.
520
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,340
I didn't know who to call
but Eddie Nash.
521
00:22:32,260 --> 00:22:34,640
That's when he sent
Gregory Diles.
522
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,640
So I got in the car
with Greg,
523
00:22:36,730 --> 00:22:39,020
and they took me
to Nash's home.
524
00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:40,900
You weren't
scared of that?
525
00:22:40,980 --> 00:22:43,690
I mean, you said you were
the guy who knew too much.
526
00:22:43,780 --> 00:22:46,740
Um, yeah, I was scared
'cause I was in the wrong place
527
00:22:46,820 --> 00:22:48,110
at the wrong time.
528
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,660
Um, but he liked me,
529
00:22:51,740 --> 00:22:54,120
and I trusted him
in that way.
530
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,790
And he wanted to help me.
531
00:22:55,870 --> 00:22:58,080
And I lived with him
for, what, six months.
532
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,040
During that time,
533
00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:01,710
John Holmes had been charged
with the murders,
534
00:23:01,790 --> 00:23:04,250
so was there
a discussion about that?
535
00:23:04,340 --> 00:23:06,090
I mean, was Eddie
worried about it?
536
00:23:06,170 --> 00:23:08,010
Did he talk about
the murders?
537
00:23:08,090 --> 00:23:10,300
Yeah, he--
Yes, yes, he did.
538
00:23:10,380 --> 00:23:12,510
He says, "People have been known
to disappear here,
539
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,390
so you better keep
your mouth shut.
540
00:23:14,470 --> 00:23:20,350
The coyotes we have up here
in the hills will eat you,
541
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,730
and you'll never
be found again."
542
00:23:23,860 --> 00:23:25,400
[female news anchor]
Porno film star John Holmes
543
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,190
was charged today
with four counts of murder,
544
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,900
with special circumstances
545
00:23:28,990 --> 00:23:30,610
that could send him
to the gas chamber.
546
00:23:30,700 --> 00:23:32,700
The 37-year-old actor
is accused of taking part
547
00:23:32,780 --> 00:23:35,540
in four grisly murders at an
exclusive Laurel Canyon home
548
00:23:35,620 --> 00:23:37,700
in Los Angeles last summer.
549
00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:40,500
[reporter] What did
Mr. Holmes tell you?
550
00:23:40,580 --> 00:23:42,460
Describe his spirits
or his mood.
551
00:23:42,540 --> 00:23:43,790
He's like anybody else.
552
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,800
It's a serious case,
and he's afraid
553
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,130
and he's concerned,
and he has every reason to be.
554
00:23:49,220 --> 00:23:50,970
After all, look at--
look at what's happening.
555
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,140
Okay, so you're
going to trial.
556
00:23:57,220 --> 00:23:59,060
Can you talk about video
of the crime scene?
557
00:23:59,140 --> 00:24:00,890
That was the key part
of the case?
558
00:24:00,980 --> 00:24:03,230
Oh, yes.
When I saw the video
559
00:24:03,310 --> 00:24:05,900
of the Tom Lange
walkthrough of the house,
560
00:24:05,980 --> 00:24:07,820
I was blown away.
561
00:24:07,900 --> 00:24:11,450
My issue in my mind was,
562
00:24:11,530 --> 00:24:14,370
is it too gruesome
for the jury?
563
00:24:14,450 --> 00:24:16,780
It's the bloodiest crime scene
I've ever seen.
564
00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:18,450
But I wanted
the jury to see it.
565
00:24:19,950 --> 00:24:22,170
[man]
Victim three
566
00:24:22,250 --> 00:24:27,340
is lying on the king-size bed
in a supine position.
567
00:24:27,420 --> 00:24:31,550
There is extensive trauma to
the head of victim number three.
568
00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:37,010
[lawyer] During these early
morning hours of July 1st,
569
00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:38,720
the defendant set things up.
570
00:24:38,810 --> 00:24:41,390
He let these unknown persons in,
571
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,560
knowing that the occupants
were going to be killed.
572
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,980
He thus aided in the crimes
and thus commenced
573
00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:51,190
the gruesome revenge
of Eddie Nash.
574
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:56,070
[Egers] He told the police
that he was taken at gunpoint
575
00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,620
to the location
on Wonderland.
576
00:25:00,700 --> 00:25:02,660
How would you
characterize the defense
577
00:25:02,750 --> 00:25:04,120
that if anyone's
a victim here,
578
00:25:04,210 --> 00:25:05,460
Holmes is the victim.
579
00:25:05,540 --> 00:25:07,750
That's what they argued.
580
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,340
"He's the victim."
581
00:25:09,420 --> 00:25:10,710
I would suggest to you,
ladies and gentlemen,
582
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,340
that if you have a gun
placed to you,
583
00:25:14,430 --> 00:25:18,930
you are in no condition
to intend to do anything
584
00:25:19,010 --> 00:25:22,930
except what the person
with the gun tells you to do.
585
00:25:23,020 --> 00:25:26,150
And if you do not,
if you are not,
586
00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:31,190
if you cannot intend
an act at that time,
587
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,320
then you cannot be guilty
of first-degree murder.
588
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,320
I had the evidence
that not only
589
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,990
did he allow the killers in,
590
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:40,080
he was a killer.
591
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,540
We found a palm print
on the bed frame
592
00:25:43,620 --> 00:25:45,040
inches...
593
00:25:46,620 --> 00:25:48,080
from Ron Launius.
594
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,880
Holmes's print was
on this brass headboard,
595
00:25:54,970 --> 00:25:56,720
palm down,
596
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,430
as if you're
bracing yourself
597
00:25:58,510 --> 00:26:01,060
while you're
striking the body.
598
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,850
[Lange] There was a small
night table there.
599
00:26:04,930 --> 00:26:06,350
To get in that position,
600
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,610
you'd have to push yourself
in sideways
601
00:26:09,690 --> 00:26:12,190
because you're between
the nightstand and the bed
602
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,280
and up against the wall
where this railing was,
603
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:16,860
to grab that railing.
604
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:19,700
It's as if somebody
was bracing themselves
605
00:26:19,780 --> 00:26:20,950
on the railing,
and perhaps coming down
606
00:26:21,030 --> 00:26:22,950
on top of Launius's head.
607
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,500
When asked
to explain his palm print,
608
00:26:25,580 --> 00:26:28,460
placed in such a manner,
in such a way as to indicate
609
00:26:28,540 --> 00:26:32,090
that he was leaning
over Ronald Launius,
610
00:26:32,170 --> 00:26:34,130
what did he say?
611
00:26:34,210 --> 00:26:36,920
"I don't know
how the print got there."
612
00:26:39,090 --> 00:26:40,850
If you're on the jury
you got half a brain,
613
00:26:40,930 --> 00:26:42,720
you're going to say,
"What the hell
614
00:26:42,810 --> 00:26:44,680
is that palm print
doing there?"
615
00:26:49,020 --> 00:26:51,060
[Connelly] And in his trial,
Holmes didn't testify either.
616
00:26:51,150 --> 00:26:52,440
He did not testify.
617
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,400
And that's probably
the smartest thing.
618
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,690
I was hoping.
I was praying
619
00:26:56,780 --> 00:26:58,650
to whatever God
is up there
620
00:26:58,740 --> 00:26:59,860
that he take the stand.
621
00:26:59,950 --> 00:27:01,870
'Cause if he took the stand,
622
00:27:01,950 --> 00:27:03,530
I could cross him.
I could cross-examine him
623
00:27:03,620 --> 00:27:06,750
ask him questions,
and he'd have to answer.
624
00:27:06,830 --> 00:27:08,210
If he didn't answer,
625
00:27:08,290 --> 00:27:10,000
that's incriminatory
right there.
626
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,130
Maybe he saw me
salivating.
627
00:27:12,210 --> 00:27:13,290
I don't know.
628
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,840
Connelly: Unable to
cross-examine John Holmes,
629
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,340
Ron Coen turned
to his other witnesses,
630
00:27:20,430 --> 00:27:22,470
including David Lind,
631
00:27:22,550 --> 00:27:25,140
the boyfriend
of Barbara Richardson.
632
00:27:27,180 --> 00:27:30,020
David Lind, one, was
very, very important.
633
00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:33,060
Nash would
always indicate later
634
00:27:33,150 --> 00:27:35,110
that Lind was
one of the killers.
635
00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:36,730
Why would Lind kill
his girlfriend?
636
00:27:36,820 --> 00:27:39,110
Lind was distraught.
637
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,240
I remember talking
to Lind in my office.
638
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,790
I was impressed with
how intelligent he came off.
639
00:27:45,870 --> 00:27:48,000
He's a doper,
he's a biker,
640
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,160
he comes from
the dregs of society.
641
00:27:50,250 --> 00:27:52,500
But he actually was
a very smart man.
642
00:27:52,580 --> 00:27:54,340
I had explained
to the jury,
643
00:27:54,420 --> 00:27:57,210
when a crime
occurs in hell,
644
00:27:57,300 --> 00:28:01,130
you do not have
angels as witnesses.
645
00:28:01,220 --> 00:28:04,390
I thought he was
a good witness.
646
00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:07,060
So you get David Lind,
a key figure in this case,
647
00:28:07,140 --> 00:28:08,810
on the stand.
648
00:28:08,890 --> 00:28:11,350
So your first question
is, what?
649
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,150
What do you do
for a living?
650
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:16,690
The answer?
I'm a robber.
651
00:28:16,770 --> 00:28:18,780
Okay, that laid
the groundwork for the jury.
652
00:28:18,860 --> 00:28:20,950
I mean, in a good way,
though, right?
653
00:28:21,030 --> 00:28:22,700
He's--
He's believable.
654
00:28:22,780 --> 00:28:24,570
If he's not going to lie
about his occupation,
655
00:28:24,660 --> 00:28:26,450
he's not going to lie
about anything else.
656
00:28:26,530 --> 00:28:28,990
Well, the defendant was very
adamant that we do this robbery,
657
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,540
as he was familiar
with Mr. Deverall
658
00:28:31,620 --> 00:28:33,920
and Mr. Launius's past,
and in doing --
659
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,500
as doing
the same type of thing,
660
00:28:36,590 --> 00:28:39,260
robbing large drug connections.
661
00:28:39,340 --> 00:28:42,680
And Mr. Holmes was in debt
to Mr. Launius and Mr. Deverall.
662
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,260
And also he was complaining that
he did not have enough money
663
00:28:45,340 --> 00:28:48,390
to pay his film editors
for his latest film.
664
00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:51,020
He was very persistent
in that we do this.
665
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:56,230
and that he volunteered
to set Mr. Nash up for us.
666
00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:57,650
[Souza] Lind as a witness,
667
00:28:57,730 --> 00:28:59,150
it was credible pretty much
from the get-go,
668
00:28:59,230 --> 00:29:02,740
because anytime somebody
implicates themselves
669
00:29:02,820 --> 00:29:05,410
in a robbery
and shooting somebody,
670
00:29:05,490 --> 00:29:07,450
you have to kind of think,
671
00:29:07,530 --> 00:29:09,450
"Maybe he's telling us
the truth here," you know,
672
00:29:09,540 --> 00:29:11,750
'cause he was very--
he was right out front of that,
673
00:29:11,830 --> 00:29:13,500
that he had shot
this bodyguard
674
00:29:13,580 --> 00:29:15,000
and that they had
robbed somebody.
675
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,000
So that gave him
some credibility
676
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,090
as far as we were concerned.
677
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,550
How valuable
was Susan Launius
678
00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:24,720
as a witness in this case?
679
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,930
[Coen] I wanted the jury
to see her,
680
00:29:27,010 --> 00:29:31,470
to see what
carnage occurred.
681
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,850
More than just the pictures,
more than just the video.
682
00:29:35,940 --> 00:29:37,770
She walked in the court.
683
00:29:37,860 --> 00:29:41,320
She limped into court,
took the stand,
684
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,900
You can see that she
was missing a finger.
685
00:29:42,990 --> 00:29:44,740
Can you--
Can you see him clearly?
686
00:29:44,820 --> 00:29:45,820
[Susan] Yes.
687
00:29:45,910 --> 00:29:47,280
And is it your testimony
688
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,740
that you've never seen
this man in your life?
689
00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:52,660
No. I don't remember
seeing him.
690
00:29:52,750 --> 00:29:56,210
She remembers shadows,
some movement, that's all.
691
00:29:56,290 --> 00:29:58,960
But the jury saw her,
and that's all I wanted.
692
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,590
She was on the stand
for about 10 minutes.
693
00:30:01,670 --> 00:30:03,550
So the end of your
closing statement was,
694
00:30:03,630 --> 00:30:05,170
"If John Holmes didn't
participate in the murders,
695
00:30:05,260 --> 00:30:07,470
why did the killers
allow him to live?"
696
00:30:07,550 --> 00:30:08,640
Can you explain that?
697
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,510
The point I was trying
to make is
698
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,020
if he didn't
commit the murders,
699
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:14,480
he's now a witness.
700
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,890
There's no reason
to let him live.
701
00:30:15,980 --> 00:30:18,190
They had no idea
at the time of the crime
702
00:30:18,270 --> 00:30:19,900
that he was
going to shut up.
703
00:30:19,980 --> 00:30:21,610
They didn't know.
704
00:30:21,690 --> 00:30:24,610
It's insurance
to kill him.
705
00:30:24,690 --> 00:30:27,910
It's the only logical reason
Holmes lived.
706
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:31,200
Maybe he said, "You better
take a couple of whacks
707
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,200
at Launius."
708
00:30:33,290 --> 00:30:36,580
"You take a few whacks here.
I know you hate him anyway.
709
00:30:36,660 --> 00:30:40,170
You take a few whacks
and you're going to be okay.
710
00:30:40,250 --> 00:30:41,460
You're going to live
through this.
711
00:30:41,540 --> 00:30:43,300
Otherwise you're not."
712
00:30:43,380 --> 00:30:45,420
Speculation.
You can't prove it.
713
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:48,510
But Ron Coens' argument was
if he hadn't been--
714
00:30:48,590 --> 00:30:50,430
I mean, why would
he still be alive
715
00:30:50,510 --> 00:30:52,600
if he hadn't taken part
in the murders?
716
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,720
He would be victim number six.
It's as simple as that.
717
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:59,310
And guess who walks in
during the trial,
718
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,310
sits in the back
of the courtroom?
719
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,150
Ed Nash.
720
00:31:03,230 --> 00:31:04,650
That's pretty wild.
I never heard that.
721
00:31:04,730 --> 00:31:06,490
Yeah, he actually
came in the courtroom.
722
00:31:06,570 --> 00:31:08,950
He was in there
about 20 minutes.
723
00:31:09,030 --> 00:31:11,120
Everybody knew it.
724
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,410
And then he walks out.
725
00:31:14,490 --> 00:31:16,000
[Connelly] I just
heard yesterday
726
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,330
that Eddie Nash came in
and slipped into the courtroom
727
00:31:18,410 --> 00:31:20,830
and sat in the back of
the courtroom during that trial.
728
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,590
I felt bad for John.
He was scared to death.
729
00:31:23,670 --> 00:31:27,920
He was a victim of Nash.
Nash took everything from him.
730
00:31:28,010 --> 00:31:29,880
Everything.
731
00:31:29,970 --> 00:31:33,180
I'm not saying John Holmes was
a perfect human being, you know?
732
00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:35,640
But still, he didn't deserve
what he got.
733
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,560
You know, he was addicted.
Eddie Nash cut him out.
734
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,390
He'd kill him.
735
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,270
John was in fear of his life.
He didn't mention a word.
736
00:31:49,070 --> 00:31:52,200
I got called in my office,
the jury has a verdict.
737
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,080
I know there's only one verdict
they can possibly have.
738
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,620
It's going to be a guilty.
He's going to fall.
739
00:31:57,700 --> 00:31:59,830
I'm going to be victorious.
740
00:31:59,910 --> 00:32:04,460
I walked down there cocky.
I'm here to take my win.
741
00:32:07,050 --> 00:32:09,420
[man] We, the jury
in the above entitled action,
742
00:32:09,510 --> 00:32:11,550
find the defendant,
John Curtis Holmes,
743
00:32:11,630 --> 00:32:13,090
not guilty of murder
744
00:32:13,180 --> 00:32:15,050
as charged in count one
of the information.
745
00:32:15,140 --> 00:32:17,930
This 25th day of June 1982.
746
00:32:18,020 --> 00:32:20,350
[people murmuring]
747
00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:24,980
And I remember
748
00:32:25,060 --> 00:32:29,820
this surge of heat
going through my body.
749
00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:31,990
Uh... A shock.
750
00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:34,030
[Connelly] I assume
you were in there
751
00:32:34,110 --> 00:32:36,030
when the verdict came in.
752
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,700
Was it a surprise
or did--
753
00:32:37,790 --> 00:32:39,290
-No.
-Too circumstantial?
754
00:32:39,370 --> 00:32:42,080
They made him--
His attorneys made him a victim.
755
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,870
I'm not going to convict
this guy.
756
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,130
He's a celebrity,
you know,
757
00:32:46,210 --> 00:32:48,840
if you consider
a porn actor a celebrity.
758
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,420
Yeah, it seems like
in the history of L.A.,
759
00:32:51,510 --> 00:32:55,050
celebrity cases
are always the toughest.
760
00:32:55,140 --> 00:32:56,350
It's very hard, you know,
761
00:32:56,430 --> 00:32:58,600
to have a man's life
in your hands
762
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,430
and then to try
and decide
763
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,690
whether he did
or did not do something.
764
00:33:05,770 --> 00:33:08,940
To me, the prosecution
did not have enough evidence.
765
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,950
Yes, I think
that they liked him.
766
00:33:13,030 --> 00:33:14,910
Surely the women liked him.
And as a matter of fact,
767
00:33:14,990 --> 00:33:18,530
prior to the trial beginning,
John told us,
768
00:33:18,620 --> 00:33:21,080
"Put a lot of women
on the jury if you can.
769
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,370
I think it's going
to be best for us."
770
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,040
With John Holmes acquitted,
the focus of suspicion
771
00:33:28,130 --> 00:33:30,000
may now shift to Eddie Nash.
772
00:33:30,090 --> 00:33:32,050
He reportedly ordered
the Laurel Canyon killings
773
00:33:32,130 --> 00:33:34,340
in retaliation
for a burglary at his home.
774
00:33:36,260 --> 00:33:37,890
[Connelly] Holmes is, you know,
775
00:33:37,970 --> 00:33:39,850
guarded by double jeopardy
and so forth.
776
00:33:39,930 --> 00:33:42,770
So you lost him as a murderer.
777
00:33:42,850 --> 00:33:46,350
But you still had this drug case
that was charged against Nash.
778
00:33:49,270 --> 00:33:51,610
[Coen] The focus of the case,
779
00:33:51,690 --> 00:33:53,530
or cases, was Eddie Nash.
780
00:33:53,610 --> 00:33:55,110
Greg Diles, too.
781
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,610
But it was mainly Eddie Nash.
782
00:33:57,700 --> 00:34:00,870
But now I can't use Holmes
as a suspect,
783
00:34:00,950 --> 00:34:03,450
but I can use him
as a witness.
784
00:34:03,540 --> 00:34:07,040
And that's when he was taken
before the grand jury.
785
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,000
So it was asked
to the grand jury,
786
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,710
"All right, who killed
the people on Wonderland.
787
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,260
What do you know?"
788
00:34:16,050 --> 00:34:18,970
He refused to testify.
789
00:34:19,050 --> 00:34:20,890
So that's contempt of court.
790
00:34:20,970 --> 00:34:22,560
The judge told Holmes,
791
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,220
"You're going to be
held in custody
792
00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:25,980
until you decide
to testify.
793
00:34:26,060 --> 00:34:27,980
In other words,
you have the keys
794
00:34:28,060 --> 00:34:29,810
to your own freedom.
795
00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:31,360
All you gotta do is testify."
796
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,230
So Holmes refused.
797
00:34:35,230 --> 00:34:37,530
He's jailed.
798
00:34:38,490 --> 00:34:40,120
I think it's basically
very unfair
799
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,700
that they're keeping him
in jail at this time.
800
00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:43,290
He was acquitted
for what he did.
801
00:34:43,370 --> 00:34:45,750
And I realize, of course,
that they do want to find out,
802
00:34:45,830 --> 00:34:47,250
you know,
who murdered the people
803
00:34:47,330 --> 00:34:48,920
in the Laurel Canyon massacre.
804
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,380
However, I think they're
just persecuting him now.
805
00:34:52,460 --> 00:34:54,550
And I will continue
to have an interest
806
00:34:54,630 --> 00:34:56,590
until they let him out of jail.
807
00:35:00,970 --> 00:35:02,720
[Connelly] While John Holmes
languished in jail
808
00:35:02,810 --> 00:35:05,930
on charges of contempt,
809
00:35:06,020 --> 00:35:10,150
Scott Thorson
found himself in court.
810
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:12,730
Palimony suits seem
to be all the rage these days,
811
00:35:12,820 --> 00:35:15,280
but in Los Angeles there is
currently one with a difference.
812
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,570
It's a $113 million suit
filed today by a young man
813
00:35:19,660 --> 00:35:21,450
who claims breach of contract,
814
00:35:21,530 --> 00:35:25,040
a contract he had
with pianist Liberace.
815
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,540
[male news anchor]
Scott Thorson and his lawyer
816
00:35:26,620 --> 00:35:28,830
appeared in Superior Court
to file the suit,
817
00:35:28,910 --> 00:35:31,170
which claims the young man
had a contract
818
00:35:31,250 --> 00:35:33,170
to serve as
Liberace's chauffeur,
819
00:35:33,250 --> 00:35:34,630
companion, and lover.
820
00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:36,000
What was the nature
821
00:35:36,090 --> 00:35:39,090
of your relationship
with Liberace?
822
00:35:39,170 --> 00:35:42,090
No comment, please,
at this time.
823
00:35:42,180 --> 00:35:45,310
Pretty famous news story
when you filed a palimony.
824
00:35:45,390 --> 00:35:47,470
Palimony lawsuit
for $110 million.
825
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,730
And Eddie Nash was
the moving figure
826
00:35:49,810 --> 00:35:52,190
behind that in terms of
the lawyers and stuff?
827
00:35:52,270 --> 00:35:53,650
Yes.
828
00:35:53,730 --> 00:35:55,270
So he thought
it would be best
829
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:56,980
if I take Liberace to court.
830
00:35:57,070 --> 00:35:58,740
Maybe we could get
an out-of-court settlement
831
00:35:58,820 --> 00:36:00,700
and get back my things.
832
00:36:00,780 --> 00:36:03,870
And he launched
a $112 million palimony lawsuit.
833
00:36:03,950 --> 00:36:07,370
It was one of Hollywood's
biggest scandals.
834
00:36:07,450 --> 00:36:09,870
I was with him
24 hours a day,
835
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,420
seven days a week,
836
00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:15,710
365 days a year.
837
00:36:15,790 --> 00:36:17,710
Then all of a sudden,
after seven years,
838
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,380
to be thrown out
839
00:36:19,460 --> 00:36:22,090
and then to be called
a disgruntled employee
840
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:24,140
and to say that I'm on drugs.
841
00:36:24,220 --> 00:36:25,930
And Mr. Liberace should talk,
842
00:36:26,010 --> 00:36:28,140
because if you want
to speak drugs,
843
00:36:28,220 --> 00:36:29,600
he's into amyl nitrite.
844
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,310
So--Which he uses daily.
845
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,650
Do you remember
what you got in the settlement?
846
00:36:35,730 --> 00:36:38,480
I got three cars out of 30.
847
00:36:38,570 --> 00:36:41,900
And my jewelry,
my fur coats, $75,000.
848
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,490
And...that was it.
849
00:36:49,870 --> 00:36:51,660
[Connelly] Indebted
to Eddie Nash for his help
850
00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:53,460
with the palimony suit,
851
00:36:53,540 --> 00:36:57,000
Scott Thorson was put to work.
852
00:36:57,090 --> 00:36:58,420
What did you do for Eddie?
853
00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:00,340
What I did for Eddie was
854
00:37:00,420 --> 00:37:02,380
he taught me the trade
of the drugs
855
00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:05,470
and the business
and how it worked.
856
00:37:05,550 --> 00:37:09,220
He had piles and piles,
pounds, kilos of cocaine
857
00:37:09,310 --> 00:37:12,390
that they were selling out
of the clubs.
858
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,730
So, where were you
getting these drugs
859
00:37:13,810 --> 00:37:14,900
and where were
you taking them?
860
00:37:14,980 --> 00:37:16,440
I was getting
from the Colombians.
861
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,230
Escobar.
862
00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:21,820
What do you say to people
who are watching this
863
00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:23,400
and don't believe you,
864
00:37:23,490 --> 00:37:24,910
who think there's lies
coming out of your mouth?
865
00:37:24,990 --> 00:37:25,990
I don't care what they think.
866
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,240
[Connelly] Colombian drug lord
Pablo Escobar
867
00:37:31,330 --> 00:37:34,080
was the leader
of the Medellin Cartel.
868
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,170
At its height, his organization
was responsible
869
00:37:37,250 --> 00:37:42,710
for 80% of the United States
cocaine supply.
870
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,300
I met Escobar twice
at his house.
871
00:37:45,380 --> 00:37:47,260
He was very nice,
very polite,
872
00:37:47,340 --> 00:37:50,220
you know,
had the best coke in town.
873
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:53,770
I would dispense it.
I would sell for him.
874
00:37:53,850 --> 00:37:56,230
Were you involved
in securing it,
875
00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:57,730
picking it up,
anything like that,
876
00:37:57,810 --> 00:37:58,980
or it would just come
to the house?
877
00:37:59,060 --> 00:38:00,820
They brought it in by girls.
878
00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:02,820
The girls would swallow it
879
00:38:02,900 --> 00:38:06,490
and then they'd throw it up
when they go to the bathroom.
880
00:38:06,570 --> 00:38:08,120
Eddie also wanted me there
881
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,780
because I had the connection
to the stars.
882
00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:13,330
Where he couldn't get in,
I could.
883
00:38:13,410 --> 00:38:14,910
And that's what he wanted.
884
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,460
So who are some
of these people,
885
00:38:16,540 --> 00:38:19,080
these stars that
Eddie Nash wanted?
886
00:38:19,170 --> 00:38:22,050
Redd Foxx,
887
00:38:22,130 --> 00:38:24,590
Flip Wilson, Richard Pryor.
888
00:38:24,670 --> 00:38:27,340
So he needed me for them.
889
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:28,970
Why did he need
the celebrities?
890
00:38:29,050 --> 00:38:31,970
Well, because he enjoyed
the publicity.
891
00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:34,270
He enjoyed
the excitement of it.
892
00:38:34,350 --> 00:38:35,850
Of knowing somebody
who's famous?
893
00:38:35,930 --> 00:38:36,850
Somebody famous. Yeah.
894
00:38:39,310 --> 00:38:41,610
[Connelly] Despite his
looming trial on drug charges,
895
00:38:41,690 --> 00:38:45,280
Eddie Nash was boldly
expanding his business.
896
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,320
But a new indictment
put him back in the spotlight.
897
00:38:50,910 --> 00:38:52,450
[female news anchor] Nash is
currently under investigation
898
00:38:52,530 --> 00:38:54,240
by a federal grand jury
899
00:38:54,330 --> 00:38:57,790
as a possible mastermind
behind an arson-for-hire ring,
900
00:38:57,870 --> 00:39:00,420
a ring responsible
for millions of dollars damage
901
00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:02,210
to local nightclubs.
902
00:39:02,290 --> 00:39:04,170
Authorities said
there was no connection
903
00:39:04,250 --> 00:39:06,550
between the timing
of today's indictment
904
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:09,300
and recent highly publicized
state allegations
905
00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:12,140
involving narcotics,
murder, and Ed Nash.
906
00:39:13,850 --> 00:39:15,640
[Lange] Ed Nash was
one of the 22 people
907
00:39:15,720 --> 00:39:19,350
under indictment
for arson-for-hire.
908
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,520
Ed Nash--his attorney
was the president
909
00:39:22,610 --> 00:39:25,570
of the Los Angeles
City Fire Commission.
910
00:39:25,650 --> 00:39:27,650
At the same time
he was representing Ed Nash
911
00:39:27,740 --> 00:39:29,570
in arson-for-hire charges,
912
00:39:29,650 --> 00:39:34,120
his unit was investigating
his client.
913
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,620
And he's the commissioner.
I mean, is there a conflict?
914
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:40,210
But it came all the way back
from the mayor.
915
00:39:40,290 --> 00:39:42,130
You know, there's no
conflict of interest here.
916
00:39:42,210 --> 00:39:43,630
Mayor Bradley didn't think
there was a problem.
917
00:39:43,710 --> 00:39:45,050
He didn't think
there was a...
918
00:39:45,130 --> 00:39:47,210
We go to trial
and he's acquitted.
919
00:39:48,380 --> 00:39:51,090
[Connelly] Why do you think
the case was acquitted?
920
00:39:51,180 --> 00:39:53,260
I mean, Nash was worth
millions and millions
921
00:39:53,350 --> 00:39:55,180
and millions of dollars.
922
00:39:55,260 --> 00:39:59,890
Except for who he paid off,
he would have been sentenced.
923
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:19,040
[Connelly] Though Nash was
acquitted of the arson charges,
924
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,410
he had reason
to be concerned that Holmes,
925
00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:24,540
still in jail, months
after his own acquittal
926
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:28,260
might implicate him
in the murders.
927
00:40:28,340 --> 00:40:29,800
When Holmes was
being kept in lockup
928
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,550
after he was acquitted,
929
00:40:31,630 --> 00:40:33,930
Nash wrote him a long letter.
930
00:40:34,010 --> 00:40:37,680
This is the letter
Eddie sent to Holmes.
931
00:40:40,270 --> 00:40:41,810
-"Dear John."
-"Dear John."
932
00:40:41,890 --> 00:40:43,770
"It's been
a long time, friend."
933
00:40:43,850 --> 00:40:46,360
"By now you've heard
about all the troubles,
934
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,820
pain and aggravation
that you've caused me."
935
00:40:48,900 --> 00:40:51,530
"I know, John, that way
deep down in your heart,
936
00:40:51,610 --> 00:40:53,780
you didn't intend
to have this happen to me."
937
00:40:53,860 --> 00:40:56,740
"You know, as God
as your witness
938
00:40:56,830 --> 00:40:58,410
that I am innocent."
939
00:40:58,490 --> 00:41:01,370
"And I never sent anybody
with you to kill anybody."
940
00:41:01,450 --> 00:41:04,750
"So don't you think it's
about time to tell the truth?"
941
00:41:04,830 --> 00:41:08,040
"I swear, man, I will forgive
you for what you did to me..."
942
00:41:08,130 --> 00:41:09,710
"...if you snap out of it..."
943
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,760
"...and tell them the truth."
944
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,180
"Signed your friend..."
945
00:41:14,260 --> 00:41:16,090
"Ed Nash."
946
00:41:19,140 --> 00:41:20,430
[all chuckle]
947
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:21,680
Good Lord.
948
00:41:22,930 --> 00:41:24,900
That's not obvious,
you know.
949
00:41:24,980 --> 00:41:27,310
What do you think
his purpose was with that?
950
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,570
I think its purpose was
don't talk.
951
00:41:31,940 --> 00:41:33,150
[camera shutter clicking]
952
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:34,200
Or else.
953
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:37,990
[reporter] Would it take
John Holmes's testimony
954
00:41:38,070 --> 00:41:41,910
to press charges
against Diles and Nash?
955
00:41:43,540 --> 00:41:45,960
Of course it would help.
956
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,040
And that avenue
is always left open.
957
00:41:48,130 --> 00:41:52,090
[Connelly] After spending
111 days in jail for contempt,
958
00:41:52,170 --> 00:41:55,470
John Holmes finally
agreed to testify.
959
00:41:55,550 --> 00:41:57,050
At the end of what was
at that time
960
00:41:57,140 --> 00:41:59,800
the record for being
in contempt of court
961
00:41:59,890 --> 00:42:02,220
for refusing to testify,
962
00:42:02,310 --> 00:42:04,350
he goes
before the grand jury
963
00:42:04,430 --> 00:42:08,860
and says some innocuous crap
that got him out of jail,
964
00:42:08,940 --> 00:42:10,110
but it didn't add anything
to the case.
965
00:42:12,730 --> 00:42:14,030
[Connelly] What he said
to the grand jury
966
00:42:14,110 --> 00:42:16,150
has never been
fully made public,
967
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:19,070
but is pretty clear that
he didn't exactly come clean
968
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,450
and finger Eddie Nash or anybody
else in the Wonderland Massacre.
969
00:42:23,540 --> 00:42:25,290
[female news anchor]
John Holmes walked out of jail
970
00:42:25,370 --> 00:42:28,120
tonight saying
he still feared for his life.
971
00:42:28,210 --> 00:42:32,130
Fear was the reason John Holmes
refused to tell a grand jury
972
00:42:32,210 --> 00:42:36,010
who murdered four people over
a drug deal in Laurel Canyon.
973
00:42:36,090 --> 00:42:38,550
At the time, I was willing
to take a contempt of court.
974
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,260
I was told by certain
individuals to keep quiet,
975
00:42:41,350 --> 00:42:42,890
not to make any statements
to anybody.
976
00:42:42,970 --> 00:42:44,810
I received communication in jail
977
00:42:44,890 --> 00:42:47,310
that they wanted me
to go ahead and testify.
978
00:42:47,390 --> 00:42:50,650
-[man] Why?
-I have no idea, but I did.
979
00:42:50,730 --> 00:42:52,900
Are you afraid at all?
Afraid for your life?
980
00:42:52,980 --> 00:42:54,480
Sure. Of course.
981
00:42:54,570 --> 00:42:56,070
I'll keep
a very low-key figure.
982
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:58,150
But, I mean, you know,
I gotta go back to work.
983
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:01,660
[funky music plays]
984
00:43:01,740 --> 00:43:08,580
♪♪
985
00:43:08,670 --> 00:43:10,330
[Connelly]
With Holmes's release,
986
00:43:10,420 --> 00:43:12,840
Johnny Wadd
was back in business.
987
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,920
John Holmes was honored
by the industry
988
00:43:15,010 --> 00:43:16,630
and was asked
to leave his autograph,
989
00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:19,260
handprints, and shoe prints
in the wet cement
990
00:43:19,340 --> 00:43:22,140
outside the Pussycat Theater
in Los Angeles.
991
00:43:22,220 --> 00:43:24,680
John Holmes is by far
the biggest name
992
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,770
in adult motion pictures.
993
00:43:26,850 --> 00:43:29,690
Actually he is
the most spectacular
994
00:43:29,770 --> 00:43:31,350
male actor I've seen.
995
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,570
♪♪
996
00:43:36,650 --> 00:43:37,940
Rehearsal warm-up.
997
00:43:38,030 --> 00:43:39,570
Let's try the eyes.
Now the eyes cross.
998
00:43:39,650 --> 00:43:43,240
Ready? And cross
and cross and cross.
999
00:43:43,330 --> 00:43:44,660
[female news anchor]
On March 5th,
1000
00:43:44,740 --> 00:43:46,160
the body of actor-comedian
John Belushi
1001
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:48,410
was found
in a Hollywood bungalow.
1002
00:43:48,500 --> 00:43:51,500
The coroner's report said he
died of a self-induced overdose
1003
00:43:51,580 --> 00:43:53,290
of cocaine and heroin.
1004
00:43:53,380 --> 00:43:55,170
[camera shutters clicking]
1005
00:43:55,250 --> 00:43:57,510
When he died, did that send
a wave of shock...
1006
00:43:57,590 --> 00:43:59,340
-Oh, God.
-...through the Nash business?
1007
00:43:59,420 --> 00:44:01,180
Yeah, I mean,
with the Belushi death,
1008
00:44:01,260 --> 00:44:02,760
yeah, he was in fear.
1009
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,470
A big star Belushi
was back then.
1010
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,060
Yeah, he was worried.
1011
00:44:08,140 --> 00:44:09,230
[female news anchor]
Newspapers called her
1012
00:44:09,310 --> 00:44:10,980
the mystery woman,
1013
00:44:11,060 --> 00:44:12,690
led away in handcuffs
from the Hollywood bungalow
1014
00:44:12,770 --> 00:44:14,560
where John Belushi's body
was found.
1015
00:44:14,650 --> 00:44:17,610
She said she was the last
to see him alive.
1016
00:44:17,690 --> 00:44:19,740
She was later identified
as Kathy Evelyn Smith,
1017
00:44:19,820 --> 00:44:21,780
a known drug user.
1018
00:44:21,860 --> 00:44:23,450
Smith claims
she injected Belushi
1019
00:44:23,530 --> 00:44:25,620
with a so-called speedball--
1020
00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:27,450
a mixture of heroin and cocaine.
1021
00:44:27,540 --> 00:44:30,580
In her words, the coup de gras
that killed him.
1022
00:44:30,660 --> 00:44:32,170
Tell me about
Kathy Smith.
1023
00:44:32,250 --> 00:44:34,210
Did you deal with her
or just Nash?
1024
00:44:34,290 --> 00:44:36,880
I dealt with her.
I was in the room,
1025
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,380
and she was
the John Belushi supplier.
1026
00:44:40,470 --> 00:44:42,720
She was responsible
for bringing the drug to him.
1027
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,260
Nash was responsible
for getting the drug.
1028
00:44:45,350 --> 00:44:50,060
It was Nash's drugs
that killed John Belushi.
1029
00:44:50,140 --> 00:44:52,230
Just as Scott
seems to be a Zelig
1030
00:44:52,310 --> 00:44:54,480
of the underbelly
of Hollywood,
1031
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,900
you're somewhat
of a Zelig of Hollywood crime,
1032
00:44:57,980 --> 00:45:01,030
and you had a part
in the investigation
1033
00:45:01,110 --> 00:45:04,280
of the overdose death
of John Belushi.
1034
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,330
Scott Thorson says that
she was a client of Eddie Nash
1035
00:45:08,410 --> 00:45:12,410
and that he possibly was
involved in supplying the drugs
1036
00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:15,000
that killed John Belushi.
Do we believe him?
1037
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,790
Partner and I worked
"Belushi investigation."
1038
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,960
I have no doubt that she
very easily could have
1039
00:45:21,050 --> 00:45:23,550
been a direct buyer
from Nash
1040
00:45:23,630 --> 00:45:25,220
because she
ran around with
1041
00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:27,180
some fairly
prominent people.
1042
00:45:27,260 --> 00:45:28,810
But he's also skilled
at telling stories
1043
00:45:28,890 --> 00:45:31,680
-that can't be checked.
-You know, he may, um,
1044
00:45:31,770 --> 00:45:34,230
you know,
be a little grandiose,
1045
00:45:34,310 --> 00:45:38,610
but overall, I think most
of it has been corroborated.
1046
00:45:38,690 --> 00:45:40,320
[male news anchor]
38-year-old Kathy Evelyn Smith
1047
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,360
was taken by marshals
and LAPD detectives
1048
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:43,990
to Hollywood Police Station
1049
00:45:44,070 --> 00:45:45,530
for routine booking
on second-degree murder
1050
00:45:45,610 --> 00:45:47,120
and drug charges.
1051
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,830
[Thorson] You know,
they go after the dealers.
1052
00:45:48,910 --> 00:45:51,830
If the dealers are offered
a sentence or something,
1053
00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:53,370
you might turn Nash in.
1054
00:45:53,460 --> 00:45:54,870
Of course he was worried.
1055
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,670
He didn't know
if Kathy was going to talk.
1056
00:45:58,750 --> 00:46:01,250
Nash just thought
it was too much publicity.
1057
00:46:01,340 --> 00:46:03,090
When they were
investigating him,
1058
00:46:03,170 --> 00:46:04,760
they raided the house
several times
1059
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,090
and they took
pounds of cocaine.
1060
00:46:07,180 --> 00:46:08,760
What were you thinking
at that point?
1061
00:46:08,850 --> 00:46:10,310
Did that increase
danger for you
1062
00:46:10,390 --> 00:46:12,890
because you were
in that house at the time?
1063
00:46:12,970 --> 00:46:14,310
Of course I was scared.
1064
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:16,850
I bought a condominium
in Studio City.
1065
00:46:16,940 --> 00:46:19,270
With what?
Money from Liberace?
1066
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:20,730
Liberace, yeah.
1067
00:46:20,820 --> 00:46:22,110
But you continued
to work with Eddie
1068
00:46:22,190 --> 00:46:23,490
-or for him?
-He was stealing my money.
1069
00:46:23,570 --> 00:46:26,490
The cars he took,
all three of them.
1070
00:46:26,570 --> 00:46:28,030
He said those are mine.
1071
00:46:28,110 --> 00:46:31,410
I said, "Those cars are
$100,000, $250,000 cars.
1072
00:46:31,490 --> 00:46:34,290
You can't do that."
He says, "Oh, yes, I can."
1073
00:46:34,370 --> 00:46:36,210
He says,
"You owe me a debt."
1074
00:46:36,290 --> 00:46:37,460
I took the Rolls-Royce
back from him.
1075
00:46:37,540 --> 00:46:40,420
I snuck the keys.
I snatched them,
1076
00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:44,420
and I drove the Rolls-Royce
down to my condo in Studio City,
1077
00:46:44,510 --> 00:46:46,800
right off of Laurel Canyon.
1078
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,300
And he came down and he says,
"I want that car."
1079
00:46:49,390 --> 00:46:51,180
And I says, "You're not
going to get the car back."
1080
00:46:51,260 --> 00:46:53,600
He says, "Then I'm
going to blow your brains out."
1081
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,310
Now, would he have done it?
Absolutely.
1082
00:46:55,390 --> 00:46:56,890
I think he
would have done it.
1083
00:46:56,980 --> 00:46:58,480
Yeah.
He was dangerous.
1084
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,690
He was capable
of doing anything.
1085
00:47:00,770 --> 00:47:02,480
He was smoking that heroin.
1086
00:47:02,570 --> 00:47:04,860
He was addicted,
and he just lost his mind.
1087
00:47:04,940 --> 00:47:06,490
He became very paranoid.
1088
00:47:06,570 --> 00:47:08,110
He would turn on you.
1089
00:47:09,950 --> 00:47:11,410
And that's when Eddie
1090
00:47:11,490 --> 00:47:16,200
started hooking me
on the freebasing,
1091
00:47:16,290 --> 00:47:20,040
which was even worse
than snorting cocaine.
1092
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,420
I mean, it's more
of a intense high,
1093
00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:27,050
but it's only a high
that lasts maybe a minute,
1094
00:47:27,130 --> 00:47:29,300
and then you're right
back there loading the pipe
1095
00:47:29,380 --> 00:47:31,930
and you never achieve
that first hit.
1096
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,100
He wanted me hooked on it
so I would rely upon him.
1097
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,020
[Connelly] I just wonder
if you can talk about
1098
00:47:42,110 --> 00:47:44,150
how the drug trade,
especially around cocaine,
1099
00:47:44,230 --> 00:47:47,440
changed from the '70s
into the '80s.
1100
00:47:47,530 --> 00:47:48,900
[Eggar] At that time,
1101
00:47:48,990 --> 00:47:50,950
some people decided
1102
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:52,660
they wanted to do
something different
1103
00:47:52,740 --> 00:47:56,080
with the cocaine
to make it more valuable.
1104
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,620
And this is when
the start of the freebasing
1105
00:47:59,710 --> 00:48:01,330
of cocaine occurred.
1106
00:48:01,420 --> 00:48:02,960
When you say more valuable,
1107
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,170
you mean that it took
such large amounts of cocaine
1108
00:48:05,250 --> 00:48:07,920
to freebase that it was
a very expensive habit?
1109
00:48:08,010 --> 00:48:10,130
Yes. What you do is
1110
00:48:10,220 --> 00:48:13,510
you take cocaine
to a more pure form.
1111
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:18,310
The original freebase formula
was very flammable
1112
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:24,190
and has a lot of fires
and a lot of problems.
1113
00:48:24,270 --> 00:48:26,230
Wow, that's a pretty blue.
1114
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,480
[laughter]
1115
00:48:28,570 --> 00:48:29,820
You know what?
1116
00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:32,660
That looks like fire!
1117
00:48:32,740 --> 00:48:34,280
[laughter]
1118
00:48:34,370 --> 00:48:37,290
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1119
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