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he said uh he Saidi I hate God I'm like

oh my gosh what am I channeling here

Saidi hate God but then he explains that

he said it's God that humans you know

relate to is nothing like the real

Spirit like real God he said it's a

human God it's an old white guy that's

pissed off that has all these rules you

can't even book an appointment with him

to talk and you know he says he's always

angry he always wants to punish us like

George Carlin you remember George Carlin

there yeah yeah yeah yeah I love Carin

was great once in a while when I'm

channeling adamus I it's like okay am I

channeling adamus and George Carin at

the same

time all right Jeffrey and thank you

very much for being a guest on about

Freedom show thank you appreciate it and

it's a delight to be here with you and

uh I have to say the energy feels really

good um and it's just I can already feel

the viewers and uh your energy of course

so I'm excited now Jeff did you ever ask

Tobias about the current events what's

going on right now he says right now is

the pivotal time on the planet ever and

it's not a scary thing it's actually a

really good thing but the what we're

doing is uh birthing the new human

species the next gen iteration of of

humans and uh you know it's all based

backed by technology advances by more

light coming into the planet than ever

before but uh we're we're on our way

here in these next 30 Years to what some

people call

Singularity and Singularity is when the

you know the normal patterns of the

human condition of the planet you know

they kind of they're on kind of a hockey

stick curve you know things are changing

going faster but at a certain point we

hit this quote unquote Singularity and

everything is so different uh that you

couldn't even predict it or prophesize

it right now so if there's mediums or

psychics that are looking into the

future they couldn't possibly even go

beyond that point of about uh well about

2050 because the planet has changed so

much but if you can imagine now between

now 2024 and then uh 25 years from now

the enormous amount of changes that are

take going to take place and it's uh

it's really precipitated by technology

technology is not leading it but

technology is fueling it it's our

Consciousness that's that's leading it

technology is going so fast right now

and I I know you're kind of into

Technologies and the difference between

AI from a year ago to right now is

phenomenal can you imagine in five years

so so he basically says you are truly

realized Masters you've chosen to stay

on the planet embodied uh to basically

let your light shine and With No Agenda

uh No Agenda as to what political

candidates get elected or uh even to any

causes in particular uh but to shine the

light and what that does is illuminates

potentials to humans that they might not

have otherwise seen so it's like turning

on a in a dark room and that's what

we're here for uh the planet is going to

go through a lot of shakeups and I I

would encourage you every viewer don't

get caught up in it um you know it's

it's part of a natural process and

sometimes it's not pretty you know can

you imagine the caterpillar uh you know

deciding that okay I'm I'm kind of done

being the old caterpillar uh I want to

change and thinking that it's just going

to turn a little bright green and grow

some more legs and suddenly it's in this

cocoon turning to Mush but that's as

part of the process it will evolve now

into the butterfly and we're going

through it personally or have gone

through it and the planet is now going

to go through that and the good news is

that first of all there are so many

enlightened conscious beings on the

planet right now you don't hear about

them in the news but they they are

amongst us and and we are them as well

and on top of that Adam says the the

pathway right

now the the planet evolves to the point

where in all the cosmos Earth becomes

known as the planet of love and of Light

Above All there's he has a statement uh

he says there's no being greater than

the human being and people take offense

with that and say yeah but look at us

you know we murder we starve we you do

all these things but he says you know

we're the Angelic beings that came to

this place forgot who we were and uh in

order to find something not even knowing

what we were looking for and ultimately

that thing that the Angelic beings were

trying to find was love uh n says that

it was first experienced here on the

planet and not that recent not that long

ago uh 5,000 years ago was When Love Was

really first EXP experienced and he says

now we evolve we evolve the entire

planet we evolve the human species the

old way of power and greed has no place

to where we're going so that's kind of a

long answer to your question yeah I

probably was wrong with my question I

should ask about the inner turbulence

that's going on right now because people

are you know what I mean that people are

feeling the change inside it's crazy

they don't know what's going on but the

change inside is amazing I remember back

in 1999 like exactly when you met Tobias

I had this 1999 I the questions coming

to I used to I lived in Los Angeles at

the time and the questions were coming

to my head I mean why I'm here you know

things like that and this is what the

turning point of the beginning of the

Awakening yeah and um also I want to

point out this that people think that

Awakening is the end of the journey but

it's only the beginning of the journey

to realization because it's hard you

know your life might going to get even

harder but you're are moving towards

Enlightenment yeah so often when

somebody goes through Awakening uh their

their life falls apart um in a way uh

they lose their job or or they their

their marriage their relationship breaks

up uh their body goes to hell and they

think what have I done you know again

going back to the metaphor of the

caterpillar and the Butterfly you know

you're in that cocoon you turn to Mush

and but it's all part of a very natural

process and it's so important for people

to understand where the human self

sometimes doesn't but it's a natural

process of uh Evolution and and

realization you don't become a more

powerful better-looking younger human

necessarily but that's not the goal

that's not the important part so you

know we all uh this is so important for

the viewers to know is that we all go

through this and it's tough I mean it's

really tough you're changing from uh

kind of a

biological being now into a light being

can you imagine the implications that it

has on your body uh the aches and the

pains and the vomiting or the whatever

happens because you're you're

metamorphosizing and the most important

thing to understand is first of all it's

a natural process and you get there the

human resists it and almost works

against it uh and fights it uh that

makes it more difficult but you just

take a deep breath and you realize I am

that I am I am an Angelic being having

been in human form and now I'm involve

evolving into a true uh en enlightened

Master on the planet yeah uh near that

experiencers go through this because

they went to the other side they've seen

a different different dimension they

seem different when they come back here

they're confused and they're depressed

usually divorce because it's a different

kind of they're not the same in the same

level with the person that they used to

be in love and they get they get

divorced and they go apart and they go

through this turbul and I had

interviewed I don't know 30 35 near

experiences and they had a draft but

then they come to the you know to the

realization probably eventually who they

are and they are happy yeah well it's

you know it's almost like Awakening

itself because that's very euphoric you

know it's like oh my gosh there is a

different way but then you're back in

everyday life you know and then it's

very depressing yeah uh and and you just

want to scream sometimes or if you have

uh some people they some near that

experiencers wanted to they were

contemplating near uh they were

contemplating uh suicide oh absolutely

that's because they say I want to go

back I don't I don't I don't fit here

you know yeah on our website we have

something uh called the 12 signs of

Awakening and things that we found are

very very common when somebody's going

through it and one of them uh is a

desire to leave the planet and it's not

out of anger it's just out of I'm done

you know uh that's it you know and in

these 12 signs again on our website uh

it's all free of charge but it talks

about um change in relationships your

job your your

self-perception uh all these things that

happen and uh and you know people read

that and they're like oh my gosh I

thought I was the only one in the world

that's like no you're going through uh

through the Awakening signs and you get

through it you know I I I I know I can

say that with great confidence you get

through it because you you have

tremendous guidance from your own soul

and you have um groups like The Crimson

Circle or other groups that uh they're

really good Affinity groups because they

make you realize oh my gosh there's

other people on the planet like me yeah

but then you know just think about it

I'm talking with the viewers right now

you're going to get there anyway sooner

or later you're going to get there you

know just go through the struggle right

now you chose this before you incarnated

believe it or not you chose this Just go

with it there's nothing going to happen

worse in your mind than that you're

going to get there so just stick around

yeah adamus calls it allowing uh you

know because you know the human freaks

out like what the hell's happening and

uh and Adamas is like just take a deep

breath and allow and what that means is

Let Your Divine Nature come into your

body your mind your your heart and stop

fighting this it's you know you've lived

probably a thousand lives on the planet

and now you're going through this huge

change you know yeah it's tough

sometimes but you get through it uh and

just allow rather than resist and fight

and there's a tendency to go very mental

as well you try to think your way

through all of it and it's not a mental

thing you can never you can never beat

it or do it mentally it it's

allowing yeah I read about you that you

work with the people that they are on

their last Incarnation on Earth is it

true this is how it is yeah and um how

do you recognize people who are who are

on their last Incarnation here usually

uh when somebody's uh you know they're

done with the planet uh usually they

know it like okay I'm not coming back

I'm going to clear all my stuff right

now and uh you know it's not a bad thing

they're just like I've seen everything I

want to see I've I've I've lived a

thousand lifetimes or more uh I've

experienced everything now I want that

final realization and then you you

basically um Ascend into the other

Realms and we can have a long discussion

about that but you take with you

everything that you you've ever learned

on this planet you take along the

attributes of a physical body and you

can go anywhere you want uh yeah but

right now Damas is encouraging us to

stay on the planet not not to leave

right away because this is is the time

of machines it's uh it's the Epic time

and what happens in the next uh three or

four years in particular will set the

course in the direction of the planet

for the next 25 years uh you know you've

seen it you travel and the world is it's

crazy right now I mean yeah it doesn't

even make sense uh but it's all part of

the the transformation uh Tobias had a

beautiful statement he said stand behind

the short wall meaning you know don't

jump into The Duality don't get involved

in politics don't get involved in even

causes right now yeah stand behind the

short wall and observe uh what's

happening and Shine Your Light yeah it's

interesting about traveling and getting

all these experiences because when you

are on your last Incarnation you just

don't want to come back here you want to

experience right now as much as you can

see everything get disappointed with

everything and say that's it I knew it's

not good here I got to get out of

here yeah and you know uh and in a way

it's it's really good because you're

like okay I'm GNA wrap it up I'm not

going to procrastinate and come back for

five more lifetimes I'm gonna wrap it up

and then people find that uh there's a

desire suddenly to uh go out and travel

and what they're really doing is going

back to places from past lives to kind

of collect themselves that's interesting

uh they might be attracted to you know

Egypt or to uh Peru or something place

like that not knowing really why but

it's to collect yourself yeah I was

attracted to United States to America

I'm from Eastern Europe originally and

I'm here right now but I was attracted

to United States all the time I don't

know why not to go work over there to

make mine I never I was in film school

over there but I was attracted I'm still

have a like my mind 70% is an America

even though I live here like I live

there but you see thanks to technology

we've been talking about technology

can you imagine 30 years ago that we can

go anywhere in the world and have these

conversations right now deep

conversations and not only have

conversation with each other but all the

world can hear to our hear our

conversation is it amazing yeah well you

know Crimson Circle uh when we started

uh and again Lindon and I didn't have

any plans we didn't have any aspirations

it just happened but it was right at

that perfect time where the internet was

really uh growing yeah and immediately

we became internet based and that's how

people connected and we you know adamus

makes a statement and he says I know

it's tough at times but you'll never go

through such an experience ever again so

enjoy it you're never going to go into

your Enlightenment again uh on the

planet enjoy all of it and the world is

crazy but enjoy it I mean it's beautiful

and yeah there's so many Dynamics taking

place place like uh Tobias talks about

Gaia Mother Earth leaving well that's

just part of the many things that are

happening right now it's causing a lot

of up upheavals in our weather in the

earth and in everything uh so we're

right in the middle of the crazy crazy

crazy but there's a it's not a bad thing

it's a good thing it's a good thing yeah

not yeah it's important to understand uh

that and um you know

there there are days where it's tiring

and I get worn out but I love it because

uh I see what's really happening

underneath the chaos uh it's beautiful

yeah now talking about

Tobias uh he was with you from

1999 until 2009 and he reincarnated in

2009 yes do you have any idea about his

what what did he I mean where he

reincarnate and where he is right now

now yeah it's a it's a fascinating story

uh so he he left Crimson Circle and he

said the reason he was leaving to

reincarnate and I I was really confused

because it's like well hang on a second

you're an ascended Master you don't have

to come back here but he explained it uh

he said he and and some 1,500 other

ascended masters were all going to be

reincarnating on the planet uh right at

about the time of

2009 his purpose wasn't to come and save

the world not at all he said the world's

going to be fine eventually but he said

you know in all my lifetimes on the

planet uh I never really experienced

just true joy and love when he was

Tobias back in the Biblical times he was

very very holy uh he followed God's

Commandments he followed the the the

Jewish religion to a te and he never

really enjoyed life because he was so

busy being afraid of God and trying to

pe's God yeah so he came back he

incarnated back into the planet uh and

uh took on the name Sam lived in the

Northwest United States in or state of

Oregon and it's kind of weird to explain

but he came back in in what he calls a

shell body in other words the body was

already born was walking around talking

it was 10 years old when his Spirit

occupied the body uh it wasn't like walk

in but it was more we call it a shell

body yeah it happens all the time by the

way the the spirit doesn't come into the

baby's body the moment it's born or even

at conception usually comes in about a

year uh two years after the birth of the

child and then continues to infuse until

you're about 21 years old but anyway

Tobias took on this uh body this Persona

of Sam lived in Oregon and uh uh

he he he tells stories about it all the

time but um Sam fell in love I mean

deeply in love and that was what Tobias

wanted he wanted to

experience uh unconditional love with

another person yeah and eventually

himself he'd never done that and the joy

of love and uh it's a long story but um

he did that for what was that almost 10

years so he was in about 20 years old

and uh finally his his girlfriend the

love of his life uh died of covid uh and

it was it was devastating and then he

left the planet shortly after but he

said you know I finally did what I never

really could do before in all my

lifetimes is to experience the deepest

love uh you could you could ever imagine

so Sam

yeah I'm sorry I interrupted you so he

he incarnated in the shell body he

reincarnate as a b baby he incarnated

into an adult a 10-year-old uhy so in

2020 he was 19 years old that's correct

yeah yeah yeah yeah and he left the body

already he went back to Yes uh he's gone

uh he left I forgot the exact date about

I don't know year or two ago a couple

years ago uh actually if if people are

interested you can find it on our

website uh and it's called Uh farewell

Sam's farewell or something like that

but uh there's wonderful stories Adam or

Tobias talks about in coming back to

Earth and he didn't have aspirations to

go around and be a guru he he basically

what he loved doing was picking apples

in the orchard uh near where he lived

and being in love with this girl and he

love he loves the classic sports cars

like Mustangs and things like

that okay so it's yeah beautiful story

so he basically incarnated he was was 9

years old or 10 years old at that time

in 2009 he incarnated he grew a little

bit you know to the

adolescence and then he fell in love

with this girl he experienced deep love

on Earth and there was his mission and

his girlfriend passed away and he left

too yes that was mission accomplished

yeah and and and there was no sadness no

regret uh and and I think was called uh

Sam be well

uh okay or something like that you can

find it on the website yeah uh but you

know he said I'd always in his old

lifetimes of course he hadn't been on

the planet in 2500 years but it was

always about following God's laws uh

from One Life Time to the other and he

thought okay if I follow God's laws to a

te I'll get into heaven well then at one

point actually he had his realization um

uh he had been thrown in prison in in is

is in in Palestine and uh because the

his next door neighbor was trying to get

his land they had him imprisoned and

neighbor took over his land and he he

was a miserable man in prison you old

man lost his family his land and cursing

God now because God how come how come

you have done this to me uh and as he

tells the story that every day this

little bird would come to his his cell

uh where the cell bars are and chirp and

sing and everything and Tobias hated

that little bird because was like

mocking him like saying I'm free and

you're not look at you you're locked

away in

jail fly anywhere yeah yeah it was

almost uh just he was on his deathbed

just about to die in prison and suddenly

uh not delusional but he was in an

altered state and he realized the bird

was truly Archangel Michael coming to

him every day uh to to sing uh phes and

to to say Hey you know don't forget who

you really are and at that point 3 days

before his death he became enlightened

uh and and then left the planet it's

such it's such a beautiful story uh just

I love it yeah yeah yeah um I want to

bring as an example paramahansa

Yogananda I'm pretty sure you heard of

him a biography Yogi and he also you

know he was like I don't know three or

five years old and he was already knew

why he was in Reser he was meditating

and he was looking for a guru and this

was his mission on Earth all the time to

bring people through yoga to God closer

to it's called his um his organization

was called self- realization fellowship

it's still called self- realization

fellowship which is a very beautiful

name for that for that it's exactly what

you describe realization

self-realization I think this amazing

name yeah and he also when his Miss

mission was accomplished

he was only 59 years old he just left

the body was beautiful he I don't know

he was at some conference and he um just

read a poem and he just slightly went to

the ground that's it you know very

beautifully and his body this is this is

It's been it's been documented by

morticians his body didn't Decay for

almost a

month he was flesh for a month

wow wow this has been documented it's

not like made up story yeah yeah yeah

it's in Los Angeles it's in the in the

records yeah it's

amazing so we all have a mission we come

back here to love probably most people

come back to to love because you know

the love that this is what we want to

experience we experience unconditional

love on the other side but we want to

experience human life love as well here

yeah and and human love is uh is so much

more poignant uh so much more real

visceral than you know there's there's

kind of this uh agape love you know kind

of universal love you know kind of like

a big umbrella but when you come to

Earth you can

experience I mean real deep love in a

very sensual way as well because we have

physical bodies uh I swear the reason

why we created physical bodies for

oursel is so that we could experience

love through our bodies yeah and uh yeah

it's you know and Adam says this is the

only planet uh like it anywhere and he

said you know in spite of all the

hardships and forgetting who we are and

having to deal with concepts of like the

devil or or uh an unknown God all these

things somehow we have such a passion

and such a deep desire in spite of all

that we create things like music and

good food and loving relationships and

poetry and art I mean and he's like who

else could do that in spite of all the

hardships there's such a a passion with

the humans uh yeah that's why he says

there's no beings greater than the human

being yeah human beings create all the

time subconsciously always create you

know we always want to do something

somebody's building house somebody's

doing some paintings we always create

but people don't even think about it but

you have this desire inside of us to

create all the time you know yeah yeah I

remember that since I was a kid I wanted

to do something to create I I was trying

to do that that always in the in the

creative field one way or another I'd go

crazy if I wasn't creating something

yeah you know uh some I mean I just love

it a project whether it's building

something or I love working on my

property I love love I love working with

the Crimson Circle staff and creating uh

videos and and projects and that I mean

that's it's thrilling so yes we have

that innate Creator desire within us

yeah maybe Jeff I'm just throwing it out

there maybe God is creating through us

he wants to create and experience

everything through us and this is why we

have this desired all the time yeah and

and uh Tobias once told me early on said

you know God never knew what a sunset

was until the human experienced that God

never knew what making love was about

God never knew love now that's that's

one that um some people have a hard

issue with uh so when Adama says that

love is only 5,000 years old on this

planet never really experienced we we

experienced affection desire Os or you

know the sexual desire and things like

that but true love they're like oh no no

God is love and uh Love is All Around

love is everywhere and adamus is like no

God did not know what love was until the

human started experiencing it and

there's other civilizations that might

be more um technically Advanced or quote

unquote

intelligent but they don't know love

that's why they come here you know they

don't come here to save the planet they

come here to find out what is this thing

that humans have called love and they

try you know probing our bodies but they

can't find it you know in a specific

place in the body uh they're fascinated

by it they think that they can somehow

you know take it and encapsulate it and

bring it back uh but you can't you know

love comes from the soul itself Love Is

Love is the I am which you know which is

your highest self the I am rejoicing in

its existence I am that I am and we

talked before about allowing and people

going through tough times if you feel

into that for a moment that rejoicing of

your spirit uh it doesn't it it doesn't

get all wrapped up in your issues and

problems but your soul your spirit is

constantly rejoicing I am that I am I

exist you're having a bad day just feel

into that the I exist that's the miracle

uh we are beings of Consciousness uh

we're not just physical beings it's not

just that we have a heart and a brain at

the core of everything I mean of

anything anywhere is consciousness and

you can easily tap into your own

Consciousness at any point it's not your

thoughts it's it's hard to describe but

it's your Consciousness your

awareness right are you saying that uh

some souls are coming to this Hur to

experience love

but not most of my nered experience 100%

of my near death

experiencers that I interviewed said

that they felt 100% of unconditional

love on the other side yes yeah so love

is

there well and and Damas I've had talks

with him I I've never personally had a

near-death experience but I've asked him

about it and he said well what happens

when you die is that um you disengage

from your physical body and that is such

a euphoric feeling I mean better than

any drug you you don't have the burden

you don't have the burden the noise

everything that is attacking us all the

time suddenly yeah boom so that's the

white light experience that people have

because it's so overwhelming to be

released you know it's like it's like

letting go of a of a balloon filled with

a lot of helium boom it just goes up

yeah so you experience that but the next

thing you experience according to Damas

is your beliefs so if you believe that

Jesus is your savior you'll experience

that if you believe that nothing happens

after death you'll experience that for a

little bit you're going to be in the

void exactly exactly but suddenly you're

in the void and you're going hang on a

second I can still feel myself exist I'm

still here yeah yeah yeah and uh they

see little then then they see a little

point of light when they think about

that that I am still my Consciousness

I'm still me Sam or Jeff and then at

that point they see that little little

pinpoint of light and they moving

towards that light exactly exactly and

and then uh so often they feel

unconditional love but what that is

according to adamus is that's your

essence your I am your your

soul you've given the gift to your own

soul of experiencing love so now it also

becomes love but without condition the

humans have conditions but the soul

doesn't yeah so suddenly you're

encountering your own self your own love

that you experienced here on the planet

and but now through your soul Through

The Eyes of your soul it's according to

Damas an overwhelming experience and so

I asked him one time I said

okay when you have a a near-death

experience and you you encounter you

feel this unconditional love which

essentially came from you to your soul

in the first place what happened over

5,000 years ago before love was truly

experienced what happened uh you know if

somebody had a near-death experience and

he said well they didn't experience love

they might have experienced acceptance

or

compassion uh but because love had not

been experienced yet by the human uh it

really couldn't be experienced during a

near-death experience so I I thought

that was kind of fascinating yeah all

right Jeff now I'm going to ask you

about we talk about Tobias now I'd like

to ask you about adamus if you don't

mind how you met him and how this whole

process yeah how it started and it's

still going right now I understand oh

yeah yeah yeah going strong uh I've been

channeling adamus now for well since

2009 So it's 15 years uh he's a

character

uh he is such a character and again

remember that it's St Germain uh who is

historic figure St Germaine uh traveled

throughout Europe uh he spent a lot of

time in Romania uh he was trained by the

ratti family uh starting at the time I

think he was about s years old until the

time he was 20 uh he tells stories about

his training in the mystery schools in

Romania and

Transylvania um so he was a real being

uh you can you can check the internet

and find out things about him it be

pretty fascinating so when he came to

the Crimson Circle um he said okay I'm

done with a machio now makio means

spiritual you know distraction

he said I'm done with a machio and he

said I don't care if all you leave uh as

long as they got five people to work

with uh but I don't care if the rest of

you leave if you don't like me if you

don't like my style I was pretty scary

you know I mean he's trying to run

people off and I'm like geez what is

this dude doing and then he started uh

with the channeling and of course eyes

open walking around and he's he's

actually pretty damn entertaining uh he

talks about jokingly he says yeah I'm

the president of the ascended masters

club uh which is by the way a real place

according to him uh and I asked him one

time well how did you get elected you

know there's right now approximately

12,000 ascended masters I said did you

have a vote he said no I appointed

myself president you know you know he's

got kind of a entertaining arrogance to

him okay it serves a purpose because it

gets us out of our comfort zones uh it

it gets us thinking about things in a

different way and he he'll he'll pour

water over somebody's head during the

middle of a I want ask you a question

Jeff I mean this is a little bit

uh you know spicy question does he swear

or not oh yeah yeah he swear more than I

do because I like to swear too and then

I say hold on a second I am a podcaster

here for a spiritual Channel I shouldn't

be doing that but for some reason I like

to do that no no he oh he'll he swears

and I I I use curse words once in a

while but not that often he doesn't mind

swearing he said what's the big deal he

said it's just your energy attached to

the word you know like you know big

deal you know but oh he'll swear but to

kind of shake us up to say why are you

so afraid of sex to not to be so holy he

doesn't want us to be so holy he

probably doesn't like that yeah no no no

holy than thou no and he'll he'll make

really bold statements like uh recently

said uh and he does it for effect you

know he said I I hate God I'm like oh my

gosh what am I channeling here that I

hate God but then he explains and he

said it's God that humans you know

relate to is nothing like the real

Spirit like real God is said it's a

human God it's an old white guy that's

pissed off that has all these rules you

can't even book an appointment with him

to talk and you know he says he's always

angry he always wants to punish us like

George Carlin you remember George Carlin

yeah yeah yeah yeah I love George Carlin

was great once in a while when I'm

channeling adamus I it's like okay am I

channeling adamus and George Carlin at

the same time because to get into this

rant you know now George car it seems

that he was channeling somebody for sure

amazing watch it right now it's like 20

30 years ago he was saying something and

it's so fresh it's like he saying it

right now oh he was an amazing comic uh

uh but adamus does things for shock

value and he and he says he'll tell

people I deliberately will distract you

to get you out of your head so your

spirit can come in and and you think all

the time and you're constantly planning

said I got to do what's necessary to get

you out of that and so he distracts uh

you know he's so funny during during the

workshops that we do um they're very

interactive with the people but he likes

to pretend he's a game show host you

know like a TV game show host he says if

I came back to Earth that's what I would

do um and uh he'll he'll hold cards you

know like a game show host does there's

nothing written on him but you know and

then he he quizzes the audience you know

like uh okay question who is the

greatest ascended Master ever and of

course the answer is him you know but

you'll ask questions about you know uh

incarnations and Karma and you know how

much does it cost to get rid of your

karma and you know he'll ask that to the

audience and people actually will come

up with an amount you know and he's like

no it doesn't cost anything you can get

rid of your karma anytime you want you

just walk away from it uh so he's very

entertaining very provocative and um

incredibly wise and talented uh he leads

us through these kind of it's like a

guided meditation we call it a morab

it's done with music and they are so

deep uh incredibly deep now Jeff how do

you feel when you Channel adamus do you

feel ecstasy or do you feel the same

feeling he's feeling what is your I mean

what state you are in at that point do

you like

it yes uh I'm conscious uh I'm aware of

things going on in the room especially

now with my eyes open uh I love it

because it is it puts me in a different

place I'm kind of in a different

dimension uh I don't feel any body aches

and pains uh I'm not thinking and my

head my job is I'm a translator uh I

take incoming he doesn't talk to me in

words it's energy packets and I have to

take those and translate them into

English so I'm very very busy but yet uh

I'm aware of what's happening in the

room literally during a channel adamus

and I can have a side conversation so

I'm channeling away my mouth is going

but he and I are talking and uh you know

he might be commenting about a certain

person in the audience or might be

telling me maybe slow down a little bit

or uh he's very much a perfectionist uh

he he wants me to channel in a very

precise way so he'll come along and say

no no no no you gotta kind of open up

your arms let your body flow with this

um during it I love it uh I I have to

say I have a hard time

afterwards um particularly on big

channels

um I've seen too much much and I've been

to such a beautiful place um you know

it's so easy channeling I mean you're in

such a great such a great place when I'm

done I have to come back down to earth

down to mass

Consciousness and it's uh it takes

sometimes takes a day afterwards

to uh to deal with it uh I'm not I'm not

in a bad mood I'm not depressed but I'm

there's a sadness uh is the best way of

saying it um there's been times where

Linda has had to nearly pour water over

me to get me back in uh because it's

like no I want to stay out there you

know it's so so nice out there but uh I

come back yeah and then usually after a

channel I'm I'm hungry you know I want

or you want some you you want to

celebrate that that beautiful event I

want a glass of wine a beer and

chocolate cake yeah yeah you know I um

I'm not a Channeler but I feel the same

with you guys because when I do this in

front of the microphone and you are all

channeling the stories and the stories

or adamus or anything that you say

through me because I you know I send it

to the world not only me all the

podcasters and YouTubers who interview

you we feel the same we feel like a

channel we're not doing much we're doing

the technical stuff here basically

recording editing and let going War

that's what we're doing yeah but it it

affects me too yeah like after the

interview right now after the great

interview I need a couple hours to come

back to my sensus you know I feel like I

want to go walk like you said I want to

have a glass of wine I I want to

celebrate because it's a beautiful

conversation and I feel the energy

powerful energy and it's like I cannot

just switch my head right away and start

doing something no I stay in this AA for

a couple hours at least yeah yeah yeah

and it's uh it's it's beautiful and it's

sometimes like I said it's really tough

coming back because now I got to deal

with the day-to-day you know life stuff

but uh you know I I love channeling and

according to adamus and Tobias uh I had

I had plenty of practice in past

lifetimes uh as a Channeler so when I

started doing it it was pretty natural

uh okay I didn't really have to work at

it so I'd done it before uh but it used

to always be in a trance and now I'm

really not one of the hardest things for

me in channeling is uh so I'm channeling

and I can feel the the audience uh I can

feel them right now kind of as me

Jeffrey I can feel your viewers but when

I'm channeling I really feel it and I

have to be very careful because I can

feel people's Agony and pain I can feel

I can feel them calling out please

Adamas you know yeah uh and it's I have

to be careful not to get wrapped up in

that uh once in a while I hear somebody

telepathically uh talking to adamus

saying adamus uh if you're real say the

word watermelon you know and I'm hearing

this you know it's not out loud you know

it's it's psychically I'm hearing this

it's like oh God don't get caught up in

that don't don't play games with it uh I

get that in the comments a lot too you

know people are just you know they

asking the my guest and they complaining

and they have their problems and

somebody some of them are sharing

Beautiful Stories from their own

experience some are just sharing their

pain because people are in pain you know

so they are they are yeah the the you

know it's um pain and suffering and it's

one of hamas' key things we have to put

an end to suffering on this planet it's

uh you know we're so used to it that we

don't even question it it's like well

suffering is a part of life and

particularly the the churches have uh

really reinforced that suffering doesn't

have to be part of the human Journey

anymore and it's one of the things

that's going to be changing in the years

ahead is we finally say no more to

suffering you know yeah the Catholic

church has Jesus on the cross and uh you

know you walk into a church and here at

the front a great big it'sing great away

suffering and and it's you know we're

told we have to pay for our sins and

none of that's true suffering is

needless uh it truly is and I'm hoping

that we can evolve Consciousness on the

planet to the point where suffering is

minimized I mean or or completely gone

but at least minimized Jeff we've been

talking for an hour so I'm going to just

we're going to conclude the C the

podcast I want to ask you about your

books I been browsing to your books and

what is amazing that uh your books

almost all of them have a five star

rating which is very unusual you notice

that Amazon five star almost all of them

and if you can you know tell my viewers

about your books and about the seminar

uh seminars you do and about the Crimson

cycle too sure uh we have uh I I think

it's five books that are out and I have

to be honest we don't focus a lot on

books and the reason why is it takes so

long to produce them to get them out

and uh these days we'll do a podcast and

we can have it done in or not a podcast

but a webcast we can have it out in in

weeks uh into everybody so it's very

timely but uh I'm always I love the

comments when I go to Amazon and I read

the book comments and uh I love the fact

that it gets good ratings I'd feel

really bad if it didn't but um but we

really don't push the books more than

anything uh we do a monthly webcast it's

the first Saturday of every month with a

live channeling with Adamas free of

charge uh we have a library of 25 years

of these monthly webcasts and again no

charge at all you can go back in and you

find so much profound wisdom o over the

years uh that's really our our big focus

and that's how we get the word out we

also do live workshops uh Lindon and I

used to travel a lot uh we don't much

anymore we do the workshops from our

Retreat Center in Kona Hawaii which is

the Big Island uh I'm going to be going

back there soon um I love the live

workshops because we we're interacting

and adamus is very interactive and he's

talking to everybody he's giving them we

have a workshop coming up in uh 2025 uh

early

2025 uh it's called k k i t a it's with

adamus it stands for kick in the ass uh

so you know I mean if you can imagine

never that but it's a good one in our

store page that and Adamas came up with

that in our store Page could you imagine

who would sign up and pay good money to

fly to Hawaii and have your ass kicked

but but his point is you know the energy

gets stuck even if you're a realized

Master the energies get stuck and once

in a while you need a kick in the ass

and he's happy to do it uh and so I love

the live workshops they're so yeah so

what's the what's the website and if you

can you know name that maybe email or

something I don't know true Crimson

circle.com it's real easy Crimson like

the color circle like the shape Crimson

circle.com uh we just uh put up our new

website um about a month ago it's

beautiful I love it uh wonderful uh web

designer from uh one of our shambra

people from Russia uh did the design and

and then our our team our internal team

put it all together but there's just a

lot of information on the website

absolutely free of charge there are

things if you want to pay for uh we call

them Cloud classes you know uh really

deep extensive things uh and then we do

the the live workshops in Kona and um

but I would suggest to any viewer just

start out with the monthly

shouts all the information is there yeah

all right and a final question I ask

everybody uh Jeff what's your definition

of freedom ah now I tell you a little

story behind that uh adamus asked that

question one time at one of our monthly

Gatherings to the audience and he said

um he said are humans ready for freedom

and everybody's nodding their head yeah

yeah yeah we want freedom you like in

the Braveheart movie Freedom yeah and uh

Adamas said nope actually humans really

don't they want a little bit of Freedom

they want a little bit of circus and and

uh and beer they want a little

entertainment but they're not ready for

True freedom and true freedom is when

you integrate all of your aspects all of

your past lives all of your we call them

aspects they're like wounded parts of

self when you recognize that uh the law

is not yours uh when you recognize you

are a sovereign being but it's it's

really complete uh I mean it's like true

freedom is beautiful but then you

release a lot of other things and most

people aren't ready for True Freedom um

as an a as a sovereign being you're

beholden to no one or nothing uh you're

truly Sovereign and as good as it sounds

people are like well okay but if I'm a

sovereign being what about my family my

kids what about my job what about my

investments it's like you let all that

go you know it still might be in your

orbit but you stop focusing on that

you're truly a sovereign being uh the

energy is yours not not some uh

Universal field of energy uh you are

truly a sovereign being and I would

agree with ad doas most people aren't

really ready for that uh fortunately

there are enough on the planet that are

but um it's a big step it's a big step

and uh my myself personally I'm not

totally free um you know there's still

things that I hang on to intentionally

yeah and freedom is uh is one of those

uh kind of funny words everybody says

yeah I want freedom but uh when it truly

looks them in the face they're afraid of

it so they do incremental Freedom uh I I

think really to get to the kind of one

of the real answers is uh Financial

Freedom uh is so important because

that's the one thing that can really

really get you down in this life yeah

you know if you're working a job that

you hate you barely have enough money to

pay your bills it's going to inhibit

your spiritual growth uh so exactly

people are like well what do I need to

do well first of all realize that

abundance is a good thing I mean it's

our Natural State it's Freedom it makes

you free to you can walk away from

anything from anybody and I remember

that phrase was going around for a long

time and it's still out there money

doesn't buy happiness you know what when

you are poor you can't even buy anything

not even happiness nothing right so yeah

but we don't have to sacrifice our life

to become rich and wealthy it starts

from here from freedom from inside and

when you from when you're not afraid of

anything Jeff because when you live in

fear you say okay I'm going to lose my

apartment because it's been my house

because it's been mortgage I'm going to

lose my car because it's mortgage and

then all this fear comes around you're

going to lose your life and your family

is going to live under the bridge that's

just make a pressure make it worse but

when you have a little place and you say

you know what I'm peaceful with this and

I'm content with this I don't have the

fear that's that's the beginning of the

freedom yeah and then it attracts to you

because you already feel content you

already feel like you got it you're not

afraid of poverty anymore because you're

okay yeah yeah absolutely and if there's

any if there's any takeaway for for your

wonderful viewers uh from this whole

hour that we spent together is that uh

that abundance uh you know whether it's

Financial or health or anything

abundance is our natural Angelic state

of being we had it distorted when we

came to this planet and took on the

human form but you can return to that

natural state of abundance it's also a

state of grace and how you do it is you

just allow it you just you know you stop

thinking about it working at it you you

breathe it in every day and allow it and

not telling it what to do or how to do

it but I am abundance and then it comes

back to you