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>> TONIGHT:

>> CHEEKY, FLIPPANT,

HOLY SMOKES.

>> I THINK WHAT MOST PEOPLE

CAN'T UNDERSTAND IS,

HOW CAN YOU KILL CHILDREN?

>> IF THIS WERE A MAN, A MAN'S

UPPER TORSO, HE WOULD NOT BE

SUFFERING THE RAMIFICATIONS THAT

I'M SUFFERING.

>> WITH EXIT POLLS SAYING

ISRAEL'S ELECTION IS TOO CLOSE

TO CALL, BOTH LEADING CANDIDATES

HAVE ALREADY DECLARED VICTORY.

AND THAT'S NOT THE ONLY HITCH

TODAY.

PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN

NETANYAHU'S LIKUD PARTY

CONFIRMED IT HIRED 1200

OBSERVERS TO WEAR BODY CAMERAS

AT POLLING STATIONS IN ARAB

COMMUNITIES, DESPITE IT BEING

ILLEGAL TO SECRETLY FILM VOTERS

CASTING THEIR BALLOTS.

A COURT IN HONG KONG CONVICTED

NINE PROTESTERS FOR ORGANIZING

PRO‐DEMOCRACY RALLIES IN 2014

THAT BECAME KNOWN AS THE

"UMBRELLA MOVEMENT:"

THE LARGEST ACT OF CIVIL

DISOBEDIENCE IN CITY HISTORY.

THE ACTIVISTS WERE ALL CONVICTED

ON CHARGES OF PUBLIC NUISANCE,

INCLUDING THREE WHO ARE SEEN AS

THE MOVEMENT'S FOUNDERS, AND

WHO COULD FACE UP TO SEVEN YEARS

IN JAIL.

>> WE WILL CONTINUE TO STRIVE

FOR HONG KONG'S DEMOCRACY AND

WE WILL NOT GIVE UP.

>> A WEEK AFTER ALGERIA'S

PRESIDENT ABDELAZIZ BOUTEFLIKA

STEPPED DOWN, PARLIAMENT NAMED

HIS REPLACEMENT: A LONG‐TIME

LOYALIST, ABDELKADER BENSALAH.

THOUSANDS OF PROTESTERS

IMMEDIATELY TOOK TO THE STREETS,

AS THEY HAVE FOR SEVEN WEEKS,

CALLING FOR THE OUSTING OF

THE RULING CLASS PROPPED UP BY

BOUTEFLIKA AND HIS ALLIES.

ALGERIA'S PARLIAMENT APPOINTED

BENSALAH FOR 90 DAYS WITH A

MANDATE TO ORGANIZE A FREE

ELECTION.

DURING A HOUSE JUDICIARY

COMMITTEE HEARING ON HATE CRIMES

AND THE RISE OF WHITE

NATIONALISM, YOUTUBE

INADVERTENTLY DEMONSTRATED JUST

HOW PERVASIVE HATE SPEECH IS ON

SOCIAL MEDIA.

20 MINUTES INTO THE HEARING'S

OFFICIAL LIVE STREAM, YOUTUBE

SHUT DOWN THE COMMENTS SECTION,

WHICH HAD BEEN OVERRUN BY

RACISTS.

>> FOR 19 YEARS, ETIENNE

NDAHIMANA HAS BEEN SERVING TIME

FOR HIS PART IN THE BRUTAL

KILLING OF MORE THAN 800,000

RWANDANS.

>> NDAHIMANA BELONGS TO THE

COUNTRY'S MAJORITY ETHNIC GROUP,

THE HUTUS, WHO SLAUGHTERED

TUTSIS OVER THE COURSE OF

100 DAYS IN 1994.

NDAHIMANA SAYS HE KILLED

TWO PEOPLE.

BUT HE'S JUST ONE OF MORE THAN

A MILLION KILLERS CONVICTED

IN PUBLIC TRIBUNALS CALLED

GACHACHA COURTS.

PRISONERS ARE BEING RELEASED

ALMOST DAILY, AND WHILE MOST

HAVE MOVED BACK IN WITH THEIR

FAMILIES, SOME HAVE MOVED TO

VILLAGES LIKE THIS ONE.

>> WE'RE WALKING THROUGH

GWERO RECONCILIATION VILLAGE,

IT'S ONE OF EIGHT OF THESE TYPE

VILLAGES THAT EXIST ACROSS

THE COUNTRY, WHERE SURVIVORS OF

THE GENOCIDE AND KILLERS LIVE

SIDE BY SIDE.

IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHY ANY

SURVIVOR OF THE GENOCIDE WOULD

WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO ONE OF

THEIR KILLERS IN ONE OF THESE

VILLAGES.

PART OF IT IS BELIEVING IN

RECONCILIATION AND FORGIVENESS,

IT'S A RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY, BUT

PART OF IT IS THAT THEY RECEIVE

FREE HOUSING AND LIVESTOCK.

>> MARIA WAS HIDING IN A BUSH

WITH THE YOUNGEST OF HER FOUR

CHILDREN WHEN THE KILLINGS

STARTED.

>> DO YOU KNOW WHO KILLED YOUR

FAMILY?

>> DO THOSE PEOPLE LIVE AROUND

HERE?

>> HOW DID YOU KILL MARIA'S

HUSBAND AND CHILDREN?

>> I GUESS, I THINK WHAT MOST

PEOPLE CAN'T UNDERSTAND IS,

HOW CAN YOU KILL CHILDREN?

>> IT'S HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE

THAT THE TWO OF YOU CAN SIT NEXT

TO EACH OTHER PEACEFULLY.

>> DO YOU TWO GET TOGETHER

BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN THIS

VILLAGE, YOU'RE PART OF THE

PROGRAM, PEOPLE LIKE US COME

TO VISIT?

OR DO YOU HAVE A TRUE

RELATIONSHIP?

>> IF RECONCILIATION STILL FEELS

FORCED, THAT'S BECAUSE IT IS

ON SOME LEVEL.

SO IS THIS NATIONAL TRADITION,

CODIFIED INTO LAW AFTER THE

GENOCIDE.

>> SO THIS IS UMU GANDA.

IT HAPPENS ONCE A MONTH, WHERE

EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTRY COMES

TOGETHER, NO MATTER YOUR

BACKGROUND, AND WORKS TO CLEAN

UP THEIR AREA.

EVERYONE SEEMS TO BE HAPPY,

POSITIVE, WORKING TOGETHER.

>> THE MAN CREDITED WITH

RETURNING STABILITY TO RWANDA IS

PRESIDENT PAUL KAGAME.

HE'S LED THE COUNTRY FOR ALMOST

20 YEARS.

>> TODAY'S RWANDA IS NOT AS

PLEASANT FOR THOSE WHO DON'T

AGREE WITH KAGAME.

OPPOSITION LEADER

VICTOIRE INGABIRE WAS RECENTLY

RELEASED FROM PRISON AFTER BEING

CONVICTED OF GENOCIDE DENIAL.

AN ARREST THAT CAME JUST AS SHE

WAS PREPARING TO RUN FOR

PRESIDENT AGAINST KAGAME.

AND LAST MONTH, HER SPOKESMAN,

ANSELM‐AY MUTIYAMANA, WAS FOUND

STRANGLED TO DEATH, A DAY AFTER

NEIGHBORS SAW HIM PICKED UP BY

SECURITY OFFICIALS.

>> BY KILLING ANSELME, DO YOU

THINK SOMEBODY WAS SENDING YOU A

MESSAGE?

>> WHY WERE THESE MEMBERS

ARRESTED?

>> MANY PEOPLE DO SAY THAT

YOU'RE A HUTU EXTREMIST.

AND MANY PEOPLE SAY THAT THIS

COUNTRY IS TOO FRAGILE TO HAVE

A CANDIDATE LIKE YOU.

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT?

>> WHAT IS THE BIGGER CONCERN

WHEN IT COMES TO THE PRESIDENT

SQUASHING YOUR POLITICAL PARTY,

NOT LETTING YOU RUN FOR OFFICE

OR NOT ALLOWING FOR FREEDOM OF

EXPRESSION?

>> OTHERS, EVEN THOSE IN THE

BUSINESS OF OPEN DEBATE, THINK

THAT'S NOT WORTH THE RISK.

>> BY THE WAY, I LOVE YOUR SET.

THE PURPLE AND YELLOW,

LIKE THE LAKERS.

>> LIKE THE LAKERS!

>> ALBERT RUDATSIMBURWA OWNS ONE

OF THE FEW PRIVATE TV STATIONS

IN THE COUNTRY.

BUT EVEN AS A MEMBER OF THE

MEDIA, HE THINKS THAT IN ORDER

TO MAINTAIN STABILITY, THE

GOVERNMENT IS JUSTIFIED IN

CRACKING DOWN ON FREEDOM OF

EXPRESSION.

>> HOW HAS PRESIDENT KAGAME

MAINTAINED THE PEACE FOR THE

LAST 25 YEARS?

>> IT'S TO IMPOSE THE PEACE

ACTUALLY.

>> SO TOUGH LEADERSHIP, WHAT

DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?

>> IT'S JUST THAT THERE ARE SOME

RED LINES THAT YOU CANNOT CROSS.

>> LIKE WHAT?

>> OPEN VIOLENCE.

INSULT.

WHATEVER.

>> INSULT AND OPEN VIOLENCE ARE

DIFFERENT, THOUGH.

>> UHHH, NO, EVEN OPEN INSULT.

YOU SEE, BECAUSE YOU NEED TO

UNDERSTAND THAT PRIOR, THE

BUILDUP OF THE GENOCIDE WAS ALL

ABOUT THAT, HATE MEDIA, HATE

SPEECHES, HATE MESSAGES.

>> WHAT ABOUT OPPOSITION LEADERS

LIKE INGABIRE, WHO ATTEMPTED TO

RUN FOR PRESIDENT AND ENDED UP

IN PRISON?

>> THESE WERE PEOPLE WHO WANTED

TO JOIN THE CLUB WITHOUT GOING

THROUGH THE NORMAL STEPS.

YOU DON'T COME OUT OF THE BLUE

AND CLAIM THAT YOU WANT TO DO

SOMETHING.

>> SO DO YOU THINK THAT THE

COUNTRY IS TOO FRAGILE TO HAVE

A CANDIDATE LIKE THAT?

>> ABSOLUTELY!

ABSOLUTELY!

>> REALLY?

>> WE ARE ONLY 25 YEARS, NOT

EVEN A FULL GENERATION.

SO YOU DON'T PLAY WITH THAT.

>> ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BARR

MADE HIS WAY TO THE HILL TODAY.

HE WAS THERE TO PERFORM ONE OF

THE MUNDANE ANNUAL TASKS A

CABINET MEMBER MUST DO: APPEAR

IN FRONT OF AN APPROPRIATIONS

SUBCOMMITTEE TO TALK ABOUT YOUR

DEPARTMENT'S FUNDING.

BUT THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME BARR

HAS APPEARED BEFORE CONGRESS

SINCE HE WAS GIVEN THE MUELLER

REPORT, SO NOT SURPRISINGLY,

THAT WAS THE MAIN TOPIC OF

CONVERSATION.

>> I WANT TO ADDRESS A SERIOUS

OVERSIGHT MATTER: YOUR

UNACCEPTABLE HANDLING OF

SPECIAL COUNSEL ROBERT MUELLER'S

REPORT.

>> YOU SAID THAT YOU BELIEVED IT

VERY IMPORTANT THE RESULTS OF

THE SPECIAL COUNSEL MUELLER'S

INVESTIGATION BE SHARED WITH

CONGRESS AND PUBLIC.

>> WAS THE PRESIDENT OR

WHITE HOUSE ALERTED IN ADVANCE

OF THE LETTER'S RELEASE?

>> ONCE THE REPORT IS OUT, I'LL

BE TESTIFYING AND GLAD TO

DISCUSS ALL ASPECTS OF

THE PROCESS AND ALSO EXPLAIN

THE DECISIONS I'VE MADE.

>> SO WE STILL SAW THE USUAL

REPETITIVE QUESTIONING AND

GRANDSTANDING, WHILE BARR GAVE

DRY ANSWERS DRIPPING WITH

DISDAIN, BUT WE DID LEARN

SOME STUFF.

BARR SAID HE OFFERED MUELLER

A CHANCE TO READ HIS MARCH 24TH

LETTER THAT SUMMARIZED THE

REPORT'S CONCLUSIONS BEFORE IT

WAS RELEASED, BUT MUELLER

DECLINED.

BARR ALSO RE‐CONFIRMED THAT

HE WILL RELEASE THE REPORT TO

CONGRESS WITHIN A WEEK, AND THAT

IT WILL LIKELY BE HEAVILY

REDACTED.

BUT THE REDACTIONS WILL BE

COLOR CODED!

SOME OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS

DID GET AROUND TO THE REAL

BUSINESS AT HAND: HOW BARR

UNDERSTANDS HIS JOB, WHAT HIS

PRIORITIES ARE FOR THE DOJ, AND

HOW THE DEPARTMENT WANTS TO

SPEND MONEY.

>> THE DOJ CIVIL RIGHTS

DEPARTMENT HAS STARTED

60% FEWER CASES AGAINST

POTENTIAL VIOLATIONS DURING

THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF

THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.

CAN YOU PLEASE PROVIDE ME WHY

THAT IS HAPPENING AND WHAT YOU

ARE PLANNING TO DO TO ADDRESS

THAT?

>> I'D HAVE TO SEE THOSE

FIGURES AND HOW THEY ARE

BROKEN DOWN.

THE AREAS THAT I AM FAMILIAR

WITH, SUCH AS HATE CRIMES,

IT'S SIMPLY NOT TRUE.

>> THOSE NUMBERS

REPRESENTATIVE LAWRENCE CITED

CAME FROM THE JUSTICE

DEPARTMENT'S OWN DATA, AS A

"VICE NEWS" ANALYSIS REVEALED

EARLIER THIS YEAR.

>> WHY DID YOU BRING UP

THE CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION ISSUE?

>> THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS

FUELED A CULTURE OF

DIVISIVENESS, OF HATE.

AND FOR US TO BE TALKING ABOUT

OUR JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND TO BE

HERE TO DISCUSS HOW WE FUND OUR

GOVERNMENT, THIS MUST BE ON THE

TOP OF THEIR AREA OF CONCERN FOR

THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO BE,

LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE

NUMBERS ARE ABOUT, THAT'S REALLY

TROUBLING.

>> OTHER MEMBERS ALSO USED THEIR

TIME TO ASK BARR ABOUT

SUBSTANTIVE MATTERS, LIKE

THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S

DECISION TO STOP DEFENDING

THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT

IN COURT.

>> WE'RE IN LITIGATION.

WE HAVE TO TAKE A POSITION.

>> THE ANSWER IS YES.

SO YOU'RE TRYING TO GET IT

INVALIDATED.

>> WE TAKE POSITION

IN LITIGATION.

>> AND IF YOU SUCCEED, THAT MANY

PEOPLE WILL LOSE THEIR COVERAGE

NATIONALLY FROM MEDICAID AND

750,000 FROM PENNSYLVANIA ALONE,

RIGHT?

>> I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF YOU

THINK IT'S SUCH AN OUTRAGEOUS

POSITION, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO

WORRY ABOUT.

>> I TALKED TO

CONGRESSMAN CARTWRIGHT

AFTERWARDS ABOUT, WELL,

BARR'S TONE.

>> HOW DO YOU INTERPRET HOW

HE WAS SPEAKING WITH YOU?

>> CHEEKY, FLIPPANT,

ASTONISHING TO ME,

BECAUSE YOU HAVE

THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE

UNITED STATES, WHOSE DECISION IT

IS TO GO FORWARD WITH A

POSITION OF THE DEPARTMENT OF

JUSTICE OR NOT,

ASKING ME WHAT MY OPINION IS OF

THE VALIDITY OF THEIR LEGAL

POSITION.

HOLY SMOKES.

THEY ARE JUST GOING THROUGH THE

MOTIONS TO DEFEND A POSITION

THAT HE DOESN'T THINK IS GOING

TO WORK OUT.

>> A LOT OF THE NEWS ACCOUNTS

YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THIS

HEARING WILL FOCUS SOLELY ON

THE MUELLER NEWS THAT WAS MADE.

AND GETTING THE REPORT, IN

WHATEVER FORM, IS IMPORTANT.

BUT THE OTHER PRIORITIES THAT

WERE DISCUSSED ‐‐ CIVIL RIGHTS

VIOLATIONS, THE AFFORDABLE CARE

ACT, POLICING ‐‐ ALL OF THAT

MATTERS, TOO, AND HAS A REAL

IMPACT ON PEOPLE'S EVERYDAY

LIVES.

TODAY I SAW KIND OF CONGRESS

WALK AND CHEW GUM AT THE SAME

TIME, WHICH IS GOOD, BECAUSE

ALL OF IT ‐‐ AND NOT JUST THE

STUFF THAT GRABS HEADLINES ‐‐

IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.

>> THE DEMOCRATS HOPING TO

CHALLENGE PRESIDENT TRUMP ARE

BEGINNING TO RELEASE THEIR

FIRST‐QUARTER FUNDRAISING

NUMBERS, TRADITIONALLY A KIND OF

SHORTHAND FOR EARLY POLITICAL

SUPPORT.

>> CAN I COUNT ON YOU

FOR SOME HELP?

>> BUT THIS PRIMARY IS ALL ABOUT

PROGRESSIVE PURITY.

>> I DON'T THINK WE'RE AS

DEMOCRATIC AS WE OUGHTA BE IF

DOLLARS CAN OUTVOTE PEOPLE, AND

IF THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THAT IS

THE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT,

THEN ISN'T THAT WHAT THE

AMENDMENT PROCESS IS FOR?

>> AND ONE OF THE CORNERSTONES

OF BEING A PROGRESSIVE IN 2020

IS SWEARING OFF MONEY FROM

POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEES AND

SHOWING THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF

SMALL‐DOLLAR, REGULAR‐PERSON

DONORS, AND MAYBE PLEDGING NOT

TO DO HIGH‐DOLLAR FUNDRAISERS

AT ALL.

>> JUST WONDERING IF YOU HAVE A

PLAN FOR CAMPAIGN FINCANCE

REFORM, AND DO YOU PLAN TO TAKE

PAC MONEY GOING FORWARD IF YOU

DO RUN?

>> SO I MADE A DECISION NOT TO

ACCEPT CORPORATE PAC MONEY.

WE'RE PROUD OF THE GRASSROOTS

NATURE OF THE FUNDING THAT'S

COME TOGETHER.

SO FAR, OVER 150,000 DONORS WITH

AN AVERAGE CONTRIBUTION UNDER

40 BUCKS LAST TIME I CHECKED.

>> JUST TO RECAP:

POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEES,

CALLED PACS, DON'T HAVE TO

DISCLOSE THEIR DONORS.

SO‐CALLED SUPERPACS DO HAVE TO

DISCLOSE THEIR DONORS, BUT THEY

CAN ACCEPT UNLIMITED AMOUNTS OF

MONEY, INCLUDING CORPORATE

MONEY.

BERNIE SANDERS, WHO RAILED

AGAINST BIG MONEY LAST TIME, IS

THE EARLY FUNDRAISING LEADER

THIS TIME, WITH $18 MILLION.

BUT COMPARED TO THE SAME TIME

PERIOD IN 2007, NONE OF THE

DEMS HAVE MATCHED WHAT

OBAMA AND CLINTON RAISED.

IN TOTAL, OBAMA RAISED

$750 MILLION THAT CYCLE, AND A

LOT OF THAT WAS NOT SMALL‐DONOR

CONTRIBUTIONS: IT WAS

FUNDRAISERS WHERE DONORS MAXED

OUT AT THE FEDERAL LIMIT.

ONE OF THIS ROUND'S CANDIDATES,

SENATOR KIRSTIN GILLIBRAND, HAS

TAKEN WALL STREET MONEY FOR

SENATE CAMPAIGNS IN THE PAST.

>> IT'S WHAT DEMOCRACY SHOULD

ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE, HAVING THE

POWER IN THE PEOPLE AND NOT THE

SPECIAL INTERESTS AND THE MONIED

INTERESTS IN WASHINGTON.

>> NOTABLY SHE HASN'T RELEASED

THE NUMBERS FOR HER PRESIDENTIAL

RUN, PROBABLY AN INDICATOR THAT

THEY'RE NOT THAT GREAT.

>> IN 2018, DURING THE

REELECTION, YOU TOOK

WALL STREET MONEY, YOU TOOK

MONEY FROM DEUTSCHE BANK

SECURITIES.

WHAT HAS CHANGED WITH THIS

PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN?

>> I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT

TO GET MONEY OUT OF POLITICS.

AND SO THE REASON WHY I'M NOT

TAKING CORPORATE PAC MONEY OR

TAKING FEDERAL LOBBYIST MONEY OR

HAVING AN INDIVIDUAL SUPERPAC IS

BECAUSE YOU NEED TO RESTORE

THE DEMOCRACY TO THE PEOPLE.

>> REPUBLICANS AND

PRESIDENT TRUMP, OF COURSE,

ARE TAKING THE OPPOSITE

APPROACH.

THE PRESIDENT'S CAMPAIGN HAS

ALREADY SET A BILLION DOLLAR

FUNDRAISING GOAL AND A NUMBER OF

DARK MONEY GROUPS ARE ALREADY

RAISING MILLIONS TO SUPPORT HIM.

TRUMP ATTENDED A CLOSED‐DOOR

FUNDRAISER IN BEVERLY HILLS THIS

PAST WEEK AND HUNG OUT WITH GOP

UBER‐DONOR SHELDON ADELSON.

THAT HAS SOME VETERAN DEMOCRATIC

FUNDRAISERS CONCERNED.

RUFUS GIFFORD LED FUNDRAISING

FOR OBAMA'S REELECTION CAMPAIGN

AND HELPED HIM RAKE IN A BILLION

DOLLARS.

>> DO YOU THINK THAT'S A SMART

STRATEGY FOR DEMOCRATS?

>> MY CONCERN WITH THE STRATEGY

THAT YOU ARTICULATE IS THAT IT

PUTS THE CANDIDATE THAT EMERGES

FROM THE PRIMARY AT A STRATEGIC

DISADVANTAGE.

WE KNOW THAT WE WILL HAVE A

CANDIDATE IN DONALD TRUMP THAT

WILL RAISE PROBABLY A BILLION

DOLLARS, SOMETHING CLOSE TO

THAT, IF NOT A BILLION DOLLARS.

HE HAS BEEN RAISING MONEY

FOR YEARS ALREADY.

AND THAT MEANS THAT THE REVENUE

STREAMS THAT EXIST INSIDE THE

DEMOCRATIC PARTY, I THINK,

THE CANDIDATES NEED TO SEIZE ON.

LOOK, I WORKED FOR

PRESIDENT OBAMA IN 2007, 2008,

UP, HIS ENTIRE PRESIDENCY.

HE DID NOT TAKE A DIME OF

PAC MONEY, WE DID NOT TAKE

A DIME OF LOBBYIST MONEY.

>> BUT HE DID DO BIG DOLLAR

FUNDRAISERS, THOUGH.

>> YES, EXACTLY, EXACTLY.

>> HOLLYWOOD CELEBRITIES,

SWANKY HOMES.

>> 100%.

HE DID.

ABSOLUTELY DID.

AND I THINK THAT EACH CAMPAIGN

NEEDS TO DECIDE WHAT MAKES SENSE

FOR THEM.

FOR US, FOR THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN,

WE DID NOT WANT TO TAKE PAC AND

LOBBYIST MONEY BECAUSE OF THE

APPEARANCE OF CORRUPTION.

AND I BELIEVE THIS:

I BELIEVE THAT MONEY IN

POLITICS IS INHERENTLY

CORRUPTING, BUT ULTIMATELY WE

HAVE GOT TO WIN.

WE HAVE GOT TO WIN IN 2020.

>> THE ACTUAL CANDIDATES,

THOUGH, ARE STICKING TO THE

HIGH‐FLYING MESSAGE THAT DOING

THE RIGHT THING IS THE MOST

IMPORTANT THING.

BUT SOME VOTERS WE TALKED TO

PRETTY MUCH SAID THE ENDS

JUSTIFY THE MEANS.

>> SOMETIMES YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE

THE BOXING GLOVES OFF AND YOU

GOTTA FIGHT POWER TO POWER.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A BLOODY

BOXING MATCH.

AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALL

OPTIONS ON THE TABLE.

>> HEY, HOW'S IT GOING?

WE'RE JUST HERE SUPPORTING

MS. MIRANDA.

HI!

>> SISTER LEONA IS A WOMEN'S

RIGHTS ACTIVIST WHO DEMANDS TO

BE HEARD AND SEEN TOPLESS IN

FRONT OF BELLPORT MIDDLE SCHOOL.

>> SHE'S SHOWING HER BREASTS

IN SUPPORT OF LAUREN MIRANDA,

A FORMER MATH TEACHER WHO WAS

FIRED AFTER A TOPLESS SELFIE

SENT TO HER BOYFRIEND IN 2016

GOT INTO THE HANDS OF STUDENTS.

>> WHAT DO YOU STAND TO

ACCOMPLISH?

>> I'M JUST HERE TO EDUCATE AND

INFORM AND ALSO JUST REALLY BE

HERE.

HEY, HOW'S IT GOING?

YEAH, SHE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN

FIRED.

SHE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG.

ACTUALLY SOMEBODY STOLE A

PHOTOGRAPH OF HER AND CIRCULATED

IT ALL OVER THE SCHOOL.

>> LOVE YOU!

THE PHOTO HAS THE SMALL LONG

ISLAND TOWN OF BELLPORT ABUZZ

ABOUT BREASTS AND GENDER

DISCRIMINATION.

NOW LAUREN IS SUING THE SCHOOL

AND ASKING FOR HER JOB BACK OR

$3 MILLION.

>> COULD YOU NARRATE FOR ME

THE EXPERIENCE OF THEM SHOWING

THE PHOTOGRAPH TO YOU?

>> SO I GET TO THE PRINCIPAL'S

OFFICE.

WE SIT IN A ROOM.

HE SAID, "DO YOU TAKE PICTURES?"

I'M THINKING, LIKE, DO I TAKE

PICTURES OF WHAT?

AND HE SAYS, WELL, I'M GOING TO

SHOW YOU THIS PICTURE.

AND HE SPINS HIS COMPUTER

MONITOR.

AND THERE IT IS.

THERE IS THIS PICTURE THAT I

FORGOT EVEN EXISTED.

I WAS DISTRAUGHT.

I WAS SHAKING, YOU KNOW,

I FELT VIOLATED.

>> YOU SENT IT TO ONE PERSON,

RIGHT?

DO YOU FIND IT PECULIAR THAT THE

PERSON THAT YOU SENT IT TO IS

NOT AT ALL A PART OF THIS CASE,

SITUATION, ACCUSATION?

>> IF THIS WERE A MAN, A MAN'S

UPPER TORSO, HE WOULD NOT BE

SUFFERING THE RAMIFICATIONS

THAT I'M SUFFERING.

HIS CAREER WOULDN'T BE RUINED.

HE WOULDN'T BE SHAMED FOR THIS.

>> 102.3, WBAB.

LONG ISLAND'S ONLY CLASSIC ROCK,

ROGER AND J. P.

IT IS 7:35, AND THIS MORNING IS

A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MORNING

FOR US.

BECAUSE THIS IS A LONG ISLAND

STORY THAT JUST JUMPED OUT AT US

AND HER NAME IS LAUREN MIRANDA.

>> LAUREN WASN'T LOOKING TO BE A

POSTER CHILD FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS

BUT SINCE HER PRIVATE LIFE WAS

THRUST INTO THE PUBLIC, SHE'S

REFUSED TO BE SHAMED.

>> THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH

MY SELFIE.

I AM IN EVERY WAY PROUD OF MY

BODY AND WHO I AM AS A WOMAN.

BUT I DIDN'T GIVE THE PEOPLE WHO

HAVE THIS SELFIE THE PERMISSION

TO HAVE IT.

>> I LOVE THE FACT THAT THEY

DIDN'T ROCK YOU.

I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE

CONFIDENT ABOUT IT.

BECAUSE IT'S NIPPLES, IT'S

BREASTS.

EVERYBODY, RELAX!

IT'S INSANE.

THERE IS NO WAY THEY WOULD FIRE

A DUDE FOR THE SAME THING THAT

THEY JUST FIRED YOU FOR.

NOT A CHANCE IN HELL.

>> LAUREN'S SITUATION ISN'T

UNIQUE.

ACCORDING TO A 2016 STUDY,

ROUGHLY 10.4 MILLION AMERICANS

HAVE HAD THEIR NUDE PHOTOS

POSTED WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION.

NOW SHE'S SPEAKING OUT ABOUT

THE DOUBLE STANDARD OF

SEXUALIZING THE FEMALE BODY.

>> HOW DO GIRLS FEEL WHEN THIS

HAPPENS TO THEM?

THEIR PHOTO GETS SHARED WITHOUT

THEIR PERMISSION OR CONSENT.

AND WHAT DO WE SAY TO THEM?

CRAWL IN A HOLE, QUIT GOING TO

SCHOOL, GO TO PRIVATE SCHOOL,

GET HOME SCHOOLED.

WHAT DO I SAY WHEN THOSE GIRLS

HAVE TO GO BACK TO THEIR

CLASSROOMS AND, YOU KNOW,

INTERACT WITH THEIR PEERS?

>> WHAT IS THE BIG MESSAGE?

>> THAT I'M YOUR EQUAL.

OKAY, I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE

YOU'RE A MAN THAT YOU AND I ARE

100% EQUAL, THAT WHATEVER YOU DO

TO ONE SIDE, YOU HAVE TO DO

TO THE OTHER.

>> THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN

DIVIDED ON WHETHER MIRANDA'S

FIRING HAS BEEN THE RIGHT CALL.

MONIQUE ARMANN HAD A DAUGHTER

IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL JUST

A YEAR AGO.

SHE RUNS A FORUM ON FACEBOOK FOR

RESIDENTS, INCLUDING PARENTS OF

KIDS AT THE SCHOOL.

THE FORUM IS A SPACE WHERE

PARENTS DEBATE LAUREN'S FIRING

PRIVATELY.

>> SO WHAT'S THE BUZZ IN THIS

CHAT ROOM?

>> IT REALLY IS SPLIT

DOWN THE MIDDLE.

I HAVE TO SAY MORE WOMEN,

OF COURSE, ARE APPALLED THAT SHE

WAS FIRED UNDER THOSE

CIRCUMSTANCES.

I DO HAVE MOTHERS CONCERNED

BECAUSE THEY HAVE SONS

IN THE SCHOOL, THAT THAT WOULD

INTERFERE WITH THEIR

LEARNING PROCESS.

>> WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH A

TOPLESS PHOTO OF YOUR CHILD'S

TEACHER BEING PASSED AROUND

IN CLASS WHILE SHE'S TEACHING?

>> THEY'VE ALREADY SEEN

THE PICTURE.

SO WHETHER THEY HAVE IT IN FRONT

OF THEM WHEN SHE'S THERE OR NOT,

THEY WILL FORGET ABOUT

SOMETHING, THEN GO ONTO

THE NEXT THING, IF PEOPLE DON'T

CONTINUE TO MAKE IT A BIG DEAL.

IF THIS KIND OF ACTION IS

ALLOWED AND MY DAUGHTERS ARE

GROWING UP IN SOCIAL MEDIA AND

THAT IS THE WAY IT IS ‐‐

YOU CAN'T PUT THAT GENIE

BACK INTO THE BOTTLE.

THEN WE SHOULD BE EXAMINING HOW

WE TEACH OUR KIDS ABOUT IT AND

DECIDING WHAT REPERCUSSIONS

ARE WE REALLY GOING TO APPLY,

BECAUSE THAT WHOLE GENERATION IS

GOING TO HAVE THOSE TYPES OF

PICTURES PROBABLY SOMEWHERE AND

IF WE START FIRING PEOPLE EVERY

TIME SOMETHING LIKE THAT

SURFACES, THEN YOU'RE GONNA BE

HAVING A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH

NO JOBS.

>> "VICE NEWS" REACHED OUT TO

SEVERAL SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS

BUT THEY WOULDN'T TALK.

THEY SAID THE DISTRICT DOES NOT

COMMENT ON ACTIVE LITIGATION.

>> LET'S SAY THEY SAY, YOU KNOW

WHAT, LAUREN, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY

RIGHT.

WE SINCERELY APOLOGIZE.

WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO COME

BACK TO THIS SCHOOL AND TO TEACH

YOUR SAME STUDENTS.

WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE FOR

YOU IN CONTRAST TO WHAT IT WAS

BEFORE?

>> THE FIRST THING I WOULD

WANT MY STUDENTS TO FEEL IS

EMPATHY.

HAVE YOU EVER BEEN BULLIED

BEFORE?

HAVE YOU EVER BEEN BULLIED

ONLINE BEFORE?

HAS SOMETHING EVER BEEN SHARED

OR SAID ABOUT YOU THAT YOU HAD

NO CONTROL OVER?

AND I'D START THERE.

I'D NEED THEM TO KNOW THAT

I'M STILL YOUR TEACHER.

THIS IS STILL MATH.

WE STILL HAVE THINGS WE NEED TO

GET DONE AND I THINK MY KIDS

WILL BE LIKE ALL RIGHT, GREAT,

WE MISSED YOU.

AND LET'S GET LET'S GET THE BALL

ROLLING.

>> BOOM.

>> THAT'S IT.

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