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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,500 --> 00:00:09,750 Shall we begin? 2 00:00:13,458 --> 00:00:14,417 We are on a journey. 3 00:00:15,583 --> 00:00:16,667 To the future. 4 00:00:18,917 --> 00:00:20,166 So what happens now? 5 00:00:20,250 --> 00:00:21,542 Something extraordinary. 6 00:00:21,625 --> 00:00:24,208 ♪ So what's the damage? ♪ 7 00:00:24,291 --> 00:00:25,500 ♪ Have you got bones With what I said? ♪ 8 00:00:25,583 --> 00:00:26,417 Elena! 9 00:00:28,333 --> 00:00:30,542 The public hates what we did, 'cause it's un-American. 10 00:00:33,667 --> 00:00:34,583 Checking in. 11 00:00:34,667 --> 00:00:36,625 Party of nine. Eight adults, one child. 12 00:00:36,709 --> 00:00:37,875 Four nights at the Groupon rate. 13 00:00:37,959 --> 00:00:39,834 I'm the one who asked about both the birthday cake 14 00:00:39,917 --> 00:00:41,583 and the fire extinguisher. 15 00:00:42,291 --> 00:00:43,625 ♪ I don't want to see That white flag waving ♪ 16 00:00:43,709 --> 00:00:45,750 We were pushing each other beyond having fun. 17 00:00:45,834 --> 00:00:47,333 ♪ This is to the bitter end ♪ 18 00:00:49,208 --> 00:00:51,375 Dracarys. 19 00:00:51,458 --> 00:00:52,750 ♪ 'Cause this is What I live for ♪ 20 00:00:52,834 --> 00:00:54,583 ♪ I'll never quit, no no ♪ 21 00:00:54,667 --> 00:00:56,250 -Life is about taking a risk. -♪ This is what I live for ♪ 22 00:00:56,667 --> 00:00:57,917 Second time's the charm! 23 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,834 -Uh, it's actually the fourth. -Fourth. Yeah. 24 00:00:59,917 --> 00:01:01,959 ♪ No, this is what I live for ♪ 25 00:01:02,417 --> 00:01:05,875 ♪ It's time to kiss the ring, oh I'm trying to get gold ♪ 26 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,625 ♪ 'Cause this is What I live for ♪ 27 00:01:08,333 --> 00:01:09,667 ♪ This is what I live for ♪ 28 00:01:09,750 --> 00:01:12,375 All of America is talking about nothing else. 29 00:01:12,458 --> 00:01:13,625 ♪ This is what I live for ♪ 30 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,333 I'm freaking out. 31 00:01:17,208 --> 00:01:18,250 Hi. 32 00:01:18,333 --> 00:01:21,000 Phoebe Robinson and Jessica Williams! 33 00:01:21,830 --> 00:01:23,375 Welcome, welcome, welcome! 34 00:01:23,458 --> 00:01:24,750 ♪This is what I live for ♪ 35 00:01:27,375 --> 00:01:28,875 I want more! 36 00:01:29,250 --> 00:01:32,750 ♪ This is what I live for I never quit, no no ♪ 37 00:01:32,834 --> 00:01:34,667 ♪ This is what I live for ♪ 38 00:03:04,709 --> 00:03:06,917 It's didn't seem like we were making an impact 39 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,709 at the time. 40 00:03:08,792 --> 00:03:11,333 We were just a bunch of kids livin' the dream 41 00:03:11,417 --> 00:03:13,166 and traveling around the world. 42 00:03:18,750 --> 00:03:21,250 It was our bond as a family 43 00:03:21,333 --> 00:03:24,709 that enabled us to become as successful as we did. 44 00:03:28,830 --> 00:03:30,917 We were all feeding off each other, 45 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,166 pushing each other 46 00:03:33,250 --> 00:03:36,458 beyond just going out and having fun. 47 00:03:36,542 --> 00:03:38,500 The competitive thing was a real cutthroat business. 48 00:03:38,583 --> 00:03:40,625 You're competing at every level. 49 00:03:40,709 --> 00:03:42,792 The surf industry pit us against each other. 50 00:03:42,875 --> 00:03:44,917 All's fair in love and war, and we're at war. 51 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,750 You have to be a bit of an asshole to win. 52 00:03:46,834 --> 00:03:48,875 - He was being a dick. - Fuck him! 53 00:03:48,959 --> 00:03:51,583 If I can just do this thing better than everybody, 54 00:03:51,667 --> 00:03:54,917 then I win... 55 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,792 Friendships... 56 00:03:56,875 --> 00:04:00,875 relationships, happiness-- 57 00:04:00,959 --> 00:04:04,375 is winning worth giving up those things? 58 00:04:17,125 --> 00:04:21,250 I was born in Cocoa Beach, Florida, in 1972. 59 00:04:21,333 --> 00:04:24,410 My dad owned a bait and tackle shop, 60 00:04:24,125 --> 00:04:26,750 so we just grew up fishin' and surfin'. 61 00:04:30,792 --> 00:04:34,917 I liked to build forts and go camp on the islands, clamming and shrimping. 62 00:04:39,333 --> 00:04:41,830 I was pretty tough as a kid. 63 00:04:41,166 --> 00:04:43,166 I remember we were riding our bikes one time down the street, 64 00:04:43,250 --> 00:04:44,750 and for some reason I turned really sharp 65 00:04:44,834 --> 00:04:46,959 and I just ate it and hit the ground super-hard. 66 00:04:47,410 --> 00:04:48,417 And the people stopped their car and they were like, 67 00:04:48,500 --> 00:04:50,583 "Are you OK?" and my brother goes, 68 00:04:50,667 --> 00:04:52,625 "He's the toughest kid on the block," or something like that, you know. 69 00:04:52,709 --> 00:04:55,333 And I was, "Yeah. I'm fine." Ya know? 70 00:04:57,750 --> 00:04:59,500 I'll kick your butt, man. 71 00:04:59,583 --> 00:05:02,208 When I was eight years old, a lot changed for me. 72 00:05:03,250 --> 00:05:04,792 I'll kill you, man. 73 00:05:04,875 --> 00:05:07,625 That was when my mom was trying to kick my dad out. 74 00:05:09,959 --> 00:05:11,625 My mom just couldn't handle the drinking and stuff. 75 00:05:11,709 --> 00:05:13,542 They would have these 76 00:05:13,625 --> 00:05:16,458 crazy, screaming fights in the house. 77 00:05:18,709 --> 00:05:21,208 I feel like I changed as a person. 78 00:05:23,917 --> 00:05:26,125 I went from fighting and being aggressive 79 00:05:26,208 --> 00:05:28,410 as my way to get out my feelings, 80 00:05:28,125 --> 00:05:32,000 to real overly sensitive to everything. 81 00:05:33,333 --> 00:05:35,917 I was really insecure, ya know? 82 00:05:44,542 --> 00:05:46,917 I grew up in Oxnard Shores. 83 00:05:48,500 --> 00:05:50,792 It was a rough Hispanic town. 84 00:05:52,875 --> 00:05:55,834 My dad was a talented musician. 85 00:05:55,917 --> 00:05:59,959 I think he made it to a point where he was a big fish in a small pond. 86 00:06:00,410 --> 00:06:03,917 But then he got sucked into the drug scene. 87 00:06:05,959 --> 00:06:07,417 He and my stepmom, 88 00:06:07,500 --> 00:06:10,830 they would have knock-out, drag-out fights, 89 00:06:10,166 --> 00:06:11,500 wake up with black eyes, 90 00:06:11,583 --> 00:06:13,834 and I was just like, "God, Dad," 91 00:06:13,917 --> 00:06:16,830 ya know, "What are you doin'?" 92 00:06:17,583 --> 00:06:19,834 I didn't want to be like my dad-- 93 00:06:19,917 --> 00:06:23,750 a talented guy that just couldn't get out of his hometown. 94 00:06:23,834 --> 00:06:27,750 And I didn't want to be as strict as my mom. 95 00:06:27,834 --> 00:06:31,542 I needed to get out from under my parents' thumb. 96 00:06:39,830 --> 00:06:41,291 I was born and raised in Hawaii. 97 00:06:41,375 --> 00:06:43,458 I'm from Kona. 98 00:06:44,875 --> 00:06:49,410 Growing up, my parents ran a restaurant. 99 00:06:49,125 --> 00:06:50,875 My dad was a pretty gnarly alcoholic. 100 00:06:50,959 --> 00:06:53,542 He was drunk every day. 101 00:06:53,625 --> 00:06:57,375 One day he got in a car wreck and lost his arm. 102 00:06:57,458 --> 00:07:00,750 My parents split up when I was like 12 years old. 103 00:07:00,834 --> 00:07:03,410 My dad wasn't in the picture anymore. 104 00:07:03,125 --> 00:07:05,417 Times got really hard. 105 00:07:05,500 --> 00:07:07,667 I felt a little bit lost. 106 00:07:09,166 --> 00:07:10,917 But following in my dad's footsteps 107 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,750 was never an option for me. 108 00:07:19,166 --> 00:07:22,291 I was born in Los Angeles, California. 109 00:07:22,375 --> 00:07:24,750 My father was a pro football player. 110 00:07:24,834 --> 00:07:26,250 He was very macho. 111 00:07:26,333 --> 00:07:29,417 Big, intimidating guy with a beard. 112 00:07:29,500 --> 00:07:32,542 It was really tough love with my father. 113 00:07:32,625 --> 00:07:35,291 He'd always grab us and throw us around. 114 00:07:35,375 --> 00:07:39,166 All his emotions came with physical stuff. 115 00:07:40,500 --> 00:07:42,959 He beat up my brother really bad. 116 00:07:43,410 --> 00:07:45,792 It was-- whoo-- it was a big deal in our life. 117 00:07:45,875 --> 00:07:47,625 It's still hard. 118 00:07:55,333 --> 00:07:58,125 I was born in Kailua, 119 00:07:58,208 --> 00:08:00,333 that's just the east side of Oahu. 120 00:08:00,417 --> 00:08:06,830 My mother would probably get arrested for child abuse 121 00:08:06,166 --> 00:08:08,417 for the shit that she did. 122 00:08:08,500 --> 00:08:12,667 I'd get dropped off at like 5:00 a.m. at Waikiki 123 00:08:12,750 --> 00:08:15,333 with $2 in my pocket, if I was lucky, 124 00:08:15,417 --> 00:08:18,500 and then I'd get picked up at 6:00 or 7:00 at night. 125 00:08:18,583 --> 00:08:22,830 What are you gonna eat with $2 during the day? 126 00:08:22,166 --> 00:08:23,750 Probably not a fuckin' whole lot. 127 00:08:23,834 --> 00:08:26,542 There was this pizza place, and there would be 128 00:08:26,625 --> 00:08:29,291 a display of a pizza. "Hey, come eat here!" 129 00:08:29,375 --> 00:08:31,410 We would steal that pizza. 130 00:08:31,125 --> 00:08:32,917 I was a ghetto-ass kid, man, 131 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,667 as ghetto as it gets. 132 00:08:34,750 --> 00:08:36,208 I had nothing else to do. 133 00:08:36,291 --> 00:08:39,667 Get in a fight and steal some food, and surf. 134 00:08:48,750 --> 00:08:52,166 My way out was surfing. 135 00:08:54,830 --> 00:08:57,959 Ya know, "Things are chaotic? Go out in the ocean." 136 00:08:58,410 --> 00:09:00,500 Which is funny, 'cause the ocean is chaotic. 137 00:09:00,583 --> 00:09:02,709 But I felt calm out there. 138 00:09:06,125 --> 00:09:09,333 All these problems were happening in my life, 139 00:09:09,417 --> 00:09:12,458 and the only time I felt really good was when I was surfing. 140 00:09:15,410 --> 00:09:18,208 That's when I had a real sense of purpose. 141 00:09:18,291 --> 00:09:21,542 "This is who I am." I was that surfer kid. 142 00:09:21,625 --> 00:09:24,410 I wasn't that bummed-out kid at home. 143 00:09:33,709 --> 00:09:38,291 I grew up in Chicago in a very regimented schedule, 144 00:09:38,375 --> 00:09:41,410 so that independence and freedom 145 00:09:41,125 --> 00:09:43,542 to be able to shed your parents 146 00:09:43,625 --> 00:09:46,583 and it'd just be you in the ocean-- 147 00:09:46,667 --> 00:09:49,667 that's what I just completely fell in love with. 148 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,750 For me, surfing was total freedom. 149 00:09:56,834 --> 00:09:58,959 - Hello, dear. - Hello. 150 00:09:59,410 --> 00:10:00,917 - Getting ready to go surfing? - Yeah. 151 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,333 Good, good, good. 152 00:10:03,750 --> 00:10:05,583 I just remember 153 00:10:05,667 --> 00:10:08,291 standing up for the first time. 154 00:10:09,834 --> 00:10:11,625 All of these elements, 155 00:10:11,709 --> 00:10:13,750 just like rushing by you. 156 00:10:13,834 --> 00:10:16,417 You're away from everything, all of a sudden, you're above it, 157 00:10:16,500 --> 00:10:19,250 and you were gliding and it was just-- I don't know. 158 00:10:19,333 --> 00:10:21,000 I was sold. 159 00:10:26,291 --> 00:10:27,959 Growing up on the North Shore, 160 00:10:28,410 --> 00:10:33,000 one of my first memories of surfing was late in the day, 161 00:10:33,830 --> 00:10:35,959 so the sun was shining down the wave, 162 00:10:36,410 --> 00:10:39,458 and I remember standing up and having that perfect image 163 00:10:39,542 --> 00:10:42,458 of the sun glistening on the barrel. 164 00:10:43,458 --> 00:10:46,830 I remember feeling entranced. 165 00:10:46,166 --> 00:10:49,709 Your first barrel, you're gonna remember it forever. 166 00:10:51,375 --> 00:10:54,830 Surfing was my savior. 167 00:10:54,166 --> 00:10:57,959 All my challenges at home and parents splitting up, 168 00:10:58,410 --> 00:11:00,500 I channeled all that to my surfing. 169 00:11:00,583 --> 00:11:03,830 I could go do something on my own 170 00:11:03,166 --> 00:11:05,959 that no one else could tell me how to do, 171 00:11:06,410 --> 00:11:08,250 and I completely understood it. 172 00:11:16,410 --> 00:11:18,125 Every day was something new, 173 00:11:18,208 --> 00:11:21,166 learning something new on a wave. 174 00:11:21,250 --> 00:11:23,166 And it made me hungry. 175 00:11:23,250 --> 00:11:25,792 Surfing comes first, and that's my life 176 00:11:25,875 --> 00:11:27,792 and they gotta respect that. 177 00:11:27,875 --> 00:11:29,834 Vertical one more time, 178 00:11:29,917 --> 00:11:31,333 this kid is just rippin'. 179 00:11:31,417 --> 00:11:33,166 Unbelievable coordination on a surfboard. 180 00:11:33,250 --> 00:11:35,166 That is as good as it gets. 181 00:11:35,250 --> 00:11:37,166 It doesn't get any better; that's perfect surfing. 182 00:11:37,250 --> 00:11:39,000 Kelly Slater! 183 00:11:40,208 --> 00:11:41,834 Kelly Slater, 184 00:11:41,917 --> 00:11:44,166 one of the bright superstars of the future, 185 00:11:44,250 --> 00:11:46,333 there's no question about it. 186 00:11:46,417 --> 00:11:50,830 The first time I met Kelly was at the US Championships, 187 00:11:50,166 --> 00:11:53,709 Kelly was 13 and I was 12. 188 00:11:53,792 --> 00:11:56,291 Square tail, no wing-- 189 00:11:56,375 --> 00:11:58,410 looks killer. 190 00:11:58,125 --> 00:12:00,208 Kelly was already kind of a superhero, 191 00:12:00,291 --> 00:12:02,542 like Michael Jordan, at that point, 192 00:12:02,625 --> 00:12:04,917 everyone was just like, "Whoa. Kelly." 193 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,208 And my dad's like, "Hey, let's go take a photo with him," 194 00:12:08,291 --> 00:12:12,000 I'm like, "No, no, no." He's like, "Hey, Kelly!" And I'm like, "Ohhh!" 195 00:12:12,830 --> 00:12:15,750 That awkward moment when your parent embarrasses you. 196 00:12:15,834 --> 00:12:18,750 After that, Rob and I became good friends, 197 00:12:18,834 --> 00:12:20,583 and we would see each other at contests. 198 00:12:20,667 --> 00:12:24,709 And the winner: Kelly Slater! 199 00:12:24,792 --> 00:12:27,208 But back then, surfing was not a career path. 200 00:12:27,291 --> 00:12:29,709 It was just something you enjoyed doing. 201 00:12:34,410 --> 00:12:35,542 When I was a kid, 202 00:12:35,625 --> 00:12:37,750 my local break was a lot of hard characters 203 00:12:37,834 --> 00:12:39,917 drinking beers and smoking weed on the beach. 204 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,917 Shane Dorian! 205 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,542 I started competing in the little local contests. 206 00:12:44,625 --> 00:12:46,917 There would be like three kids in my division. 207 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,250 And talking to those guys, they were like, "Oh, yeah, we're all gonna be pro surfers." 208 00:12:50,333 --> 00:12:52,166 And I was like, "What are you talking about?" 209 00:12:52,250 --> 00:12:54,830 They're like, "Yeah, that's what we're doing." 210 00:12:54,166 --> 00:12:56,667 I didn't know that was an option, you know? 211 00:12:58,333 --> 00:13:00,750 I remember hanging out with a friend, 212 00:13:00,834 --> 00:13:01,959 looking at Surfer magazine. 213 00:13:02,410 --> 00:13:03,542 I said, "I'm gonna do that. 214 00:13:03,625 --> 00:13:05,410 That's gonna be my job." 215 00:13:05,125 --> 00:13:06,625 And he was like, "Yeah, right." 216 00:13:06,709 --> 00:13:08,417 And I just, "No. 217 00:13:08,500 --> 00:13:10,417 I'm gonna be a pro surfer someday." 218 00:13:10,500 --> 00:13:13,709 And the blueprint for me was Tom Curren. 219 00:13:32,375 --> 00:13:34,750 I started surfing in 1985, 220 00:13:34,834 --> 00:13:39,333 and Tom Curren won the world title that year. 221 00:13:42,125 --> 00:13:44,750 He was the first American to win the world title 222 00:13:44,834 --> 00:13:47,834 since the inception of professional surfing. 223 00:13:47,917 --> 00:13:51,625 It had been dominated by Australians. 224 00:13:51,709 --> 00:13:54,458 If you ask anyone in our generation, 225 00:13:54,542 --> 00:13:57,417 Tom Curren was our inspiration. 226 00:13:57,500 --> 00:13:59,000 He showed us what was possible. 227 00:13:59,830 --> 00:14:00,458 Rob Machado winning the heat 228 00:14:00,542 --> 00:14:02,208 and advancing... 229 00:14:02,291 --> 00:14:04,542 As a kid... 230 00:14:04,625 --> 00:14:06,125 - Did you get barreled? - I got barreled. 231 00:14:06,208 --> 00:14:07,917 ...I did pretty well in a few contests. 232 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,830 And by the time I was 18, 233 00:14:10,166 --> 00:14:12,500 I was offered my first sponsorship deal. 234 00:14:12,583 --> 00:14:16,000 Another youngster rapidly rising through the ranks 235 00:14:16,830 --> 00:14:18,333 is California's Taylor Knox. 236 00:14:18,417 --> 00:14:21,750 Four thousand dollars richer... 237 00:14:21,834 --> 00:14:24,830 You don't know how this helps. 238 00:14:24,166 --> 00:14:26,750 After finishing fourth at the World Amateur Titles, 239 00:14:26,834 --> 00:14:28,500 I got the contract I was looking for. 240 00:14:28,583 --> 00:14:30,208 I think I ended up with $1200 a month, 241 00:14:30,291 --> 00:14:32,000 and that was a big deal. 242 00:14:32,830 --> 00:14:35,166 Look at that! Slater's first big win. 243 00:14:35,250 --> 00:14:36,667 After a tremendous amateur career, 244 00:14:36,750 --> 00:14:38,125 Slater has dedicated himself 245 00:14:38,208 --> 00:14:39,875 in the world of professional surfing. 246 00:14:39,959 --> 00:14:43,410 ...signed the biggest sponsorship deal ever. 247 00:14:43,125 --> 00:14:44,709 It was a big jump for me, 248 00:14:44,792 --> 00:14:46,500 because I get nervous in front of the big crowd... 249 00:14:46,583 --> 00:14:49,250 I was getting 75 grand a year at 18 years old. 250 00:14:49,333 --> 00:14:51,458 Coming from not having anything when I was a kid 251 00:14:51,542 --> 00:14:54,458 to getting paid anything to go surfing? 252 00:14:54,542 --> 00:14:58,375 And to be able to buy my own lunch was a bonus. 253 00:14:58,458 --> 00:15:00,917 Well, Rob, your first win must give you momentum. 254 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,500 Yeah, definitely. Gives me a lot more confidence. Moving up in the ratings. 255 00:15:04,583 --> 00:15:06,917 I was kinda scared about the whole concept 256 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,375 of being a pro surfer. 257 00:15:08,458 --> 00:15:12,125 I was just a little kid. goin' surfing every day. 258 00:15:12,208 --> 00:15:15,830 I was just out there for the pure enjoyment of it, 259 00:15:15,166 --> 00:15:18,000 like, there was no stress. 260 00:15:18,830 --> 00:15:21,625 And now you put a piece of paper in front of someone 261 00:15:21,709 --> 00:15:24,830 with money attached to it, 262 00:15:24,166 --> 00:15:25,750 and expectations and obligations, 263 00:15:25,834 --> 00:15:27,208 and everything changes. 264 00:15:27,291 --> 00:15:30,830 I saw it as a huge amount of pressure, for sure. 265 00:15:30,166 --> 00:15:34,333 But I also thought, "This is my duty to go and earn these dollars." 266 00:15:34,417 --> 00:15:36,333 It was based on that world title. 267 00:15:36,417 --> 00:15:38,667 They wanted you to win that world title. 268 00:15:38,750 --> 00:15:41,583 I wanted to win so badly, because I never went to college 269 00:15:41,667 --> 00:15:43,166 and had zero backup plan. 270 00:15:43,250 --> 00:15:45,792 I was either gonna make it on the world tour, 271 00:15:45,875 --> 00:15:48,625 or I'd fail, and that was it. 272 00:15:48,709 --> 00:15:52,500 The end goal was always to go on the world tour 273 00:15:52,583 --> 00:15:53,917 and be a world champ. 274 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,417 That was the pinnacle of the sport, 275 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:57,500 win a world championship. 276 00:15:57,583 --> 00:15:59,375 But at the same time, 277 00:15:59,458 --> 00:16:01,959 you gotta go to Hawaii, you gotta do good in Hawaii. 278 00:16:11,125 --> 00:16:14,625 Back then it was like, "Hawaii?" Scared the shit out of me. 279 00:16:18,458 --> 00:16:22,410 Proving that you were going to be able to surf in Hawaii-- 280 00:16:22,125 --> 00:16:24,166 that was a really big part of the deal. 281 00:16:26,375 --> 00:16:28,959 You want to make a name for yourself, you go Pipeline. 282 00:16:29,410 --> 00:16:32,410 You can make a career off of just surfing one wave. 283 00:16:33,542 --> 00:16:36,830 It's so powerful and so beautiful. 284 00:16:36,166 --> 00:16:38,959 Palm trees swaying, the white sand beach. 285 00:16:39,410 --> 00:16:41,166 It's an amazing arena. 286 00:16:41,250 --> 00:16:43,417 But when it's in a bad mood, 287 00:16:43,500 --> 00:16:45,166 it pulverizes you. 288 00:16:51,917 --> 00:16:54,166 It picks you up and just slams you down, 289 00:16:54,250 --> 00:16:56,834 and that reef is so hard. 290 00:16:56,917 --> 00:16:59,750 It feels like you're hitting a sharp sidewalk. 291 00:17:01,792 --> 00:17:03,375 Pipeline is definitely 292 00:17:03,458 --> 00:17:06,667 the most dangerous spot on earth. 293 00:17:06,750 --> 00:17:09,917 I've seen a lot of guys die there. 294 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,250 That's what makes it such a proving ground. 295 00:17:12,333 --> 00:17:15,125 It's prestigious just to do good in the trials. 296 00:17:15,208 --> 00:17:17,166 But the real reward is to be able to go 297 00:17:17,250 --> 00:17:19,959 and surf against the world's best at Pipeline. 298 00:17:20,410 --> 00:17:22,250 If you're on the North Shore and Pipeline was good 299 00:17:22,333 --> 00:17:24,875 and you weren't out there, and you were some hot kid, 300 00:17:24,959 --> 00:17:26,417 everybody knew about it. 301 00:17:26,500 --> 00:17:29,208 Everybody saw you as someone who was avoiding Pipeline. 302 00:17:32,830 --> 00:17:34,625 Coming from Florida, being a small wave guy, 303 00:17:34,709 --> 00:17:37,959 there was a lot of eyes on whether I could surf in Hawaii. 304 00:17:39,792 --> 00:17:43,125 You can be the king of your beach, wherever that is, 305 00:17:43,208 --> 00:17:45,834 but if you can't surf well in Hawaii, it doesn't mean anything. 306 00:17:45,917 --> 00:17:50,333 I grew up surfing the Great Lakes on a giant surfboard. 307 00:17:50,417 --> 00:17:54,830 The first couple times I went to Hawaii, I hated it. 308 00:17:54,166 --> 00:17:57,291 It's "big fish, small pond" to "small fish, big pond." 309 00:17:57,375 --> 00:18:01,830 And at 5'6", 130 pounds, 310 00:18:01,166 --> 00:18:03,667 I ain't getting anything. 311 00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:06,875 The waves are bigger, stronger, they move faster-- 312 00:18:06,959 --> 00:18:08,709 it's so dangerous. 313 00:18:08,792 --> 00:18:10,667 It looks like everyone should go to the hospital. 314 00:18:10,750 --> 00:18:14,417 Like, "No way I'm gonna paddle out at Pipeline. 315 00:18:14,500 --> 00:18:16,667 Like... no chance." 316 00:18:16,750 --> 00:18:21,625 And then you had some super-heavy locals. 317 00:18:21,709 --> 00:18:25,458 When you're a 135-pound skinny haole, 318 00:18:25,542 --> 00:18:28,417 the intimidation factor is super-high. 319 00:18:28,500 --> 00:18:32,875 I was pretty terrified of Derek Ho and Dane Kealoha, 320 00:18:32,959 --> 00:18:35,000 Johnny Boy Gomes, Sunny Garcia. 321 00:18:35,830 --> 00:18:38,250 These were the guys who could put you in your place real fast. 322 00:18:38,333 --> 00:18:41,500 Like Brazil is to soccer, Hawaii is to surfing. 323 00:18:41,583 --> 00:18:43,834 So it's territorial. 324 00:18:43,917 --> 00:18:45,583 You can't just come into Hawaii. 325 00:18:45,667 --> 00:18:48,250 That's the hardest place on earth to fucking infiltrate. 326 00:18:48,333 --> 00:18:52,125 Hawaii is like, "Respect? Door is wide open. 327 00:18:52,208 --> 00:18:56,125 No respect? Door is closed and your ass is kicked." 328 00:18:56,208 --> 00:18:58,250 My God, someone stop it! 329 00:18:58,333 --> 00:19:00,417 Some of these tourists that show up, 330 00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:03,333 they just seem to leave their brains at home. 331 00:19:03,417 --> 00:19:08,667 If I see someone acting like a privileged prick, 332 00:19:08,750 --> 00:19:11,875 if I feel like somebody needs a good beating, 333 00:19:11,959 --> 00:19:13,709 I'm down to give it. 334 00:19:16,458 --> 00:19:19,625 Either you can go home while you still can walk, 335 00:19:19,709 --> 00:19:23,410 or we're gonna beat the shit out of you 336 00:19:23,125 --> 00:19:24,959 and send you home anyway. 337 00:19:30,125 --> 00:19:32,709 The land and the culture was stolen from Hawaiians 338 00:19:32,792 --> 00:19:35,542 not that long ago. 339 00:19:35,625 --> 00:19:38,709 Queen Lili'uokalani was held up in her palace at gunpoint 340 00:19:38,792 --> 00:19:40,750 and forced to hand it over. 341 00:19:43,834 --> 00:19:46,375 I am literally from the North Shore, this is where I was raised. 342 00:19:46,458 --> 00:19:49,830 Being a white person in Hawaii, 343 00:19:49,166 --> 00:19:52,166 you're the minority, and you can feel it, 344 00:19:52,250 --> 00:19:53,792 it's tangible. 345 00:19:53,875 --> 00:19:56,500 It's like a reversal from almost anywhere else. 346 00:19:58,291 --> 00:20:00,250 We were all over there by ourselves. 347 00:20:00,333 --> 00:20:03,709 I don't remember anyone's parents being over there. 348 00:20:03,792 --> 00:20:05,959 People were getting beat up-- 349 00:20:06,410 --> 00:20:07,667 it was kinda like the Wild West. 350 00:20:07,750 --> 00:20:09,750 "You're on your own, kid." 351 00:20:11,333 --> 00:20:13,410 I was from the Big Island 352 00:20:13,125 --> 00:20:14,750 where the waves are small, 353 00:20:14,834 --> 00:20:16,500 and here I am on the North Shore of Oahu. 354 00:20:16,583 --> 00:20:18,792 Scary locals and the waves are gnarly, 355 00:20:18,875 --> 00:20:20,792 and I'm terrified. 356 00:20:29,959 --> 00:20:32,458 And then in the winter of '88, 357 00:20:32,542 --> 00:20:34,917 Benji and his mom rented a house 358 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,410 right there at Pipeline. 359 00:20:37,125 --> 00:20:39,583 And that was like the epicenter of the North Shore. 360 00:20:39,667 --> 00:20:42,250 So everyone was gravitating towards Benji's house. 361 00:20:45,959 --> 00:20:48,125 When my mom and dad split up, 362 00:20:48,208 --> 00:20:50,417 she went to Hawaii on vacation 363 00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:53,375 and came back and said, "Hey, boys, get in the car, 364 00:20:53,458 --> 00:20:54,792 we're movin' to Hawaii." 365 00:20:54,875 --> 00:20:57,750 And it happened to be the North Shore of Oahu. 366 00:20:57,834 --> 00:21:00,333 When we first got ahold of the Pipeline house, 367 00:21:00,417 --> 00:21:03,834 we didn't even know that Pipeline and Waimea Bay 368 00:21:03,917 --> 00:21:05,750 and Sunset Beach were down this way. 369 00:21:05,834 --> 00:21:07,417 I mean, this is how naive we were. 370 00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:10,750 I was 12, livin' at Pipeline. 371 00:21:10,834 --> 00:21:13,830 Ross and Shane Dorian started hanging out there, 372 00:21:13,166 --> 00:21:15,583 I'm like, "This is rad, they're hanging out at my house." 373 00:21:15,667 --> 00:21:17,750 And then it became where all the boys started hanging there. 374 00:21:17,834 --> 00:21:20,417 No way, guys, this is so rad! 375 00:21:22,709 --> 00:21:25,417 When Benji had his house there at Pipeline, 376 00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:28,500 he was like, "You need a place to stay? You can stay at my house." 377 00:21:28,583 --> 00:21:32,830 And I went from staying in some rat-infested crack den 378 00:21:32,166 --> 00:21:33,583 to Benji's house. 379 00:21:33,667 --> 00:21:35,959 Hang out there, watch Pipeline, 380 00:21:36,410 --> 00:21:38,917 jump on the trampoline, bodies just everywhere, 381 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,291 sleepin'. 382 00:21:40,375 --> 00:21:42,375 It was like a slumber party. 383 00:21:42,458 --> 00:21:44,583 We all knew each other 384 00:21:44,667 --> 00:21:46,959 from surfing different amateur events. 385 00:21:47,410 --> 00:21:50,959 But it wasn't until we all stayed at Benji's house 386 00:21:51,410 --> 00:21:53,291 that we became a posse. 387 00:21:53,375 --> 00:21:54,709 What do you think about Rob? 388 00:21:54,792 --> 00:21:57,709 He's got a real attitude problem. 389 00:21:57,792 --> 00:22:00,834 It wasn't just this little core group from Hawaii anymore. 390 00:22:00,917 --> 00:22:04,000 All of a sudden our group went from this big to this big to this big. 391 00:22:04,830 --> 00:22:05,291 It just snowballed. 392 00:22:09,291 --> 00:22:11,875 There were 80 surfboards left at the house every day, 393 00:22:11,959 --> 00:22:15,542 all the surfers were showing up and there were 15 people at at time 394 00:22:15,625 --> 00:22:17,667 sleeping on the floor. 395 00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:21,000 Benji's mom was so welcoming to everyone. 396 00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:22,667 She never asked for a dime, 397 00:22:22,750 --> 00:22:24,583 everyone eating all her food, 398 00:22:24,667 --> 00:22:26,500 leaving all their dirty shit everywhere, 399 00:22:26,583 --> 00:22:29,375 making the house a wreck, loud, staying up late-- 400 00:22:29,458 --> 00:22:31,834 it was just like free-for-all fun zone all day long. 401 00:22:31,917 --> 00:22:35,333 The sand was this thick in my living room. 402 00:22:35,417 --> 00:22:37,750 And after a while my mom just let go 403 00:22:37,834 --> 00:22:39,375 of the whole control thing 404 00:22:39,458 --> 00:22:41,667 and just said, "I love it. I love it." 405 00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:44,291 I'd always felt the more the merrier 406 00:22:44,375 --> 00:22:46,830 because I had nobody growing up. 407 00:22:46,166 --> 00:22:48,333 My dad had died and our house was empty. 408 00:22:48,417 --> 00:22:50,667 So to me, we were just a family, 409 00:22:50,750 --> 00:22:52,542 and these were my boys. 410 00:22:52,625 --> 00:22:54,959 There were kids that were leaving their parents 411 00:22:55,410 --> 00:22:56,500 on the east coast of America 412 00:22:56,583 --> 00:22:59,250 and spending their holiday season with my family. 413 00:22:59,333 --> 00:23:01,875 I mean, what were their parents thinking? 414 00:23:01,959 --> 00:23:05,959 Like, "Our kids aren't home for Christmas!" Every year for, like, a decade. 415 00:23:06,410 --> 00:23:07,709 Right about Christmastime everybody goes home 416 00:23:07,792 --> 00:23:10,208 to see their parents, and there's more waves for me. 417 00:23:10,291 --> 00:23:12,375 A lot of us come from broken homes, 418 00:23:12,458 --> 00:23:14,417 but over at Benji's house you felt like 419 00:23:14,500 --> 00:23:16,830 you were with your family. 420 00:23:17,458 --> 00:23:19,410 Most of us went through 421 00:23:19,125 --> 00:23:20,917 some gnarly hard times when we were young, 422 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,875 so to go somewhere where there was a really positive, 423 00:23:24,959 --> 00:23:26,250 loving, accepting home, 424 00:23:26,333 --> 00:23:29,375 we felt like it was safe there. 425 00:23:34,417 --> 00:23:39,500 One day I met Rob surfing where we surf, our little spot. 426 00:23:41,458 --> 00:23:44,500 And he brought me into Benji's house. 427 00:23:47,410 --> 00:23:49,000 Without that group, 428 00:23:49,830 --> 00:23:52,875 I would have guaran-fuckin-teed been in jail. 429 00:23:52,959 --> 00:23:55,625 That single-handedly changed my whole life. 430 00:23:55,709 --> 00:23:59,959 Whoo! 431 00:24:00,410 --> 00:24:04,250 When Benji had his house at Pipeline, 432 00:24:04,333 --> 00:24:06,417 it would be ten of us on the deck 433 00:24:06,500 --> 00:24:08,583 watching the waves, boards in the racks. 434 00:24:08,667 --> 00:24:11,959 We knew we needed to get out there and surf. 435 00:24:12,410 --> 00:24:14,291 We just needed someone to push us. 436 00:24:16,166 --> 00:24:18,166 Rob We'd all stand out on the deck, 437 00:24:18,250 --> 00:24:20,792 everyone's questioning the waves, yourself, 438 00:24:20,875 --> 00:24:22,500 and here comes Todd. 439 00:24:25,291 --> 00:24:27,166 Todd Chesser would walk through the yard, 440 00:24:27,250 --> 00:24:28,959 and he wouldn't even ask if he could come over. 441 00:24:29,410 --> 00:24:30,333 He was just such a gnarly dude. 442 00:24:30,417 --> 00:24:33,166 - Yeah! Did you do anything yet? - Yeah. 443 00:24:33,250 --> 00:24:36,458 But not with me. The day's not any good. 444 00:24:36,542 --> 00:24:38,250 It's gettin' good. 445 00:24:38,333 --> 00:24:40,500 Todd Chesser and Brock Little were already 446 00:24:40,583 --> 00:24:43,333 completely established pro surfers at the time. 447 00:24:43,417 --> 00:24:46,166 We looked up to those guys so much. 448 00:24:46,250 --> 00:24:47,667 We wanted to be just like them. 449 00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:50,291 Brock was the first guy 450 00:24:50,375 --> 00:24:53,500 that pioneered surfing Himalayas and Waimea. 451 00:24:53,583 --> 00:24:55,125 He was so fearless. 452 00:24:55,208 --> 00:24:57,542 Behind him, slowly but surely, 453 00:24:57,625 --> 00:24:59,125 Todd Chesser 454 00:24:59,208 --> 00:25:01,208 started surfing big waves as well. 455 00:25:07,250 --> 00:25:11,792 Brock was already starting to take off in his career. 456 00:25:11,875 --> 00:25:14,500 And when he would travel around the world, 457 00:25:14,583 --> 00:25:16,667 Todd hung out with us. 458 00:25:16,750 --> 00:25:19,291 Todd Chesser was a couple years older. 459 00:25:19,375 --> 00:25:22,333 He was the one that pushed all of us. 460 00:25:22,417 --> 00:25:24,830 He was brutal. 461 00:25:26,583 --> 00:25:28,166 You'd come in after, 462 00:25:28,250 --> 00:25:31,830 thinking, "Oh, man, I just got such a good wave. 463 00:25:31,166 --> 00:25:33,410 I wonder if Todd saw it." 464 00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:36,500 Todd didn't talk about any of the waves I got, 465 00:25:36,583 --> 00:25:39,830 it was like, "Why'd you paddle in?" 466 00:25:39,166 --> 00:25:43,458 You know? Like, "OK. Well, um, 'cause it's easier?" 467 00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:46,410 "No. Don't wuss out. Get through it." 468 00:25:46,125 --> 00:25:50,458 I remember watching Chesser letting waves land on him. 469 00:25:50,542 --> 00:25:54,410 He was laughing, almost to say, like, 470 00:25:54,125 --> 00:25:56,291 "What's the big deal, grom?" 471 00:25:56,375 --> 00:25:59,250 And you'd just be like... looking for an out. 472 00:25:59,333 --> 00:26:01,834 "Oh, my ankle's kinda sore." 473 00:26:01,917 --> 00:26:05,830 "Shut up. Grab your board. Let's go." 474 00:26:05,166 --> 00:26:06,792 Todd was like a sensei to us. 475 00:26:06,875 --> 00:26:09,917 He was always one step ahead of what we were doing. 476 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,834 He could see that you could do it, 477 00:26:11,917 --> 00:26:13,875 but you couldn't see yourself that you could do it. 478 00:26:13,959 --> 00:26:17,458 And he would say little things that would get under your skin, 479 00:26:17,542 --> 00:26:19,834 like, " You probably won't make it anyway." 480 00:26:19,917 --> 00:26:22,458 And you'd be like, "Fuck that. I'll make it." 481 00:26:22,542 --> 00:26:25,500 Now, looking back on it, he knew what he was doing. 482 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,542 He knew how far to push your limits, 483 00:26:29,625 --> 00:26:32,166 dangerously close to life-or-death. 484 00:26:32,250 --> 00:26:34,750 Todd Chesser would surf any size big wave, 485 00:26:34,834 --> 00:26:37,125 and he had a huge influence on all of us. 486 00:26:37,208 --> 00:26:39,333 Eventually we were all feeding off each other, 487 00:26:39,417 --> 00:26:40,917 pushing each other, 488 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,458 in a friendly way trying to outdo each other. 489 00:26:42,542 --> 00:26:44,583 We always used to say, "Oh, you won't go." 490 00:26:44,667 --> 00:26:46,625 Just that challenge, like turn around on a big wave 491 00:26:46,709 --> 00:26:49,125 or a late drop and just go. 492 00:26:49,208 --> 00:26:53,410 If you heard "You won't go" in our crew, you're goin'. 493 00:26:53,125 --> 00:26:55,625 And if you don't go... Aaah! 494 00:26:55,709 --> 00:26:57,917 That's like a month of getting heckled. 495 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,917 And being heckled-- ugh-- is the worst. 496 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,542 I'd rather split my head open. 497 00:27:01,625 --> 00:27:03,333 Just kicked his ass. 498 00:27:03,417 --> 00:27:07,000 You're not nervous. Don't chew your fingernail, man. 499 00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:08,709 He's a little mad right now, 500 00:27:08,792 --> 00:27:13,830 It isn't like, "Hey, man, you'll get the next one," 501 00:27:13,166 --> 00:27:15,375 it was verbal beatings. 502 00:27:15,458 --> 00:27:17,375 And you felt this big. 503 00:27:17,458 --> 00:27:21,000 And all you would do is think about, "OK, when's my next chance? 504 00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:23,625 Because I can't let that happen again." 505 00:27:23,709 --> 00:27:26,792 I remember eating shit on a 10-foot wave at Pipe 506 00:27:26,875 --> 00:27:28,959 and Chesser actually acknowledging it. 507 00:27:29,410 --> 00:27:31,125 Like going, "Dude, that was sick. 508 00:27:31,208 --> 00:27:33,583 So stoked you went on that wave." 509 00:27:33,667 --> 00:27:37,834 "Yeah, but I cartwheeled down the face and ate crap." 510 00:27:37,917 --> 00:27:40,417 "Yeah. That was killer." 511 00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:43,291 It changed the way we perceived safety. 512 00:27:43,375 --> 00:27:47,291 I mean, at 15, we were surfing 25-foot waves. It was unbelievably dangerous. 513 00:27:47,375 --> 00:27:49,750 ♪ Flyin' up to heaven and I fell from the clouds ♪ 514 00:27:49,834 --> 00:27:53,166 ♪ It was pretty freakin' sweet until I blacked out ♪ 515 00:28:13,667 --> 00:28:16,500 I remember one day as we were paddling out, 516 00:28:16,583 --> 00:28:18,410 this enormous set comes in. 517 00:28:18,125 --> 00:28:20,583 Yee-haw! 518 00:28:20,667 --> 00:28:22,834 Oh, my God! 519 00:28:25,125 --> 00:28:26,834 And I couldn't even take a breath in. 520 00:28:26,917 --> 00:28:30,500 I was like hyperventilating like I'm gonna fucking die. 521 00:28:30,583 --> 00:28:33,410 And I remember looking over at Benji, 522 00:28:33,125 --> 00:28:35,417 and Benji laughing. "Haaa!" 523 00:28:35,500 --> 00:28:38,410 Like a fun ride at an amusement park. 524 00:28:38,125 --> 00:28:39,792 Todd Chesser, he taught me 525 00:28:39,875 --> 00:28:41,291 that if a wave breaks in front of you 526 00:28:41,375 --> 00:28:43,500 and you laugh, it calms your heart rate 527 00:28:43,583 --> 00:28:45,625 so you can breathe more. 528 00:28:45,709 --> 00:28:48,917 You can't afford to surf big waves if you're scared. 529 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,792 That just means your adrenaline's running, your heart's pumping-- 530 00:28:51,875 --> 00:28:55,375 odds are you're not gonna be able to hold your breath as long. 531 00:28:55,458 --> 00:28:57,375 It's just simple science. 532 00:28:58,583 --> 00:28:59,709 A number of guys got hurt really bad. 533 00:28:59,792 --> 00:29:01,410 Benji had a really bad, scary one, 534 00:29:01,125 --> 00:29:02,625 he caught a second reef wave one day 535 00:29:02,709 --> 00:29:05,875 and just got hammered on the inside reef. 536 00:29:05,959 --> 00:29:07,917 I got held down for two waves. 537 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,875 I was down, scrambling for my life, 538 00:29:10,959 --> 00:29:13,000 and I felt the give-up-- 539 00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:16,959 the give-up is where you just kinda go "Not gonna make it," like, "Uhh! Uhh!" 540 00:29:17,410 --> 00:29:19,500 I remember when I hit the water, 541 00:29:19,583 --> 00:29:21,458 the lip hit me and knocked all the wind out of me. 542 00:29:21,542 --> 00:29:23,417 And I immediately was going... 543 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:25,750 I was underwater forever, 544 00:29:25,834 --> 00:29:28,917 and then the wave finally started letting me up 545 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,667 and I started swimming up, and I felt like this was it, 546 00:29:32,750 --> 00:29:34,417 like I need to get to the surface. 547 00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:37,830 And the next wave broke like this, over me, 548 00:29:37,166 --> 00:29:40,830 and that was the last thing I remember. 549 00:29:42,959 --> 00:29:45,750 I opened my eyes, and time had passed, 550 00:29:45,834 --> 00:29:47,417 I was crying hysterically. 551 00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:49,583 I was just sitting in the foam on my board 552 00:29:49,667 --> 00:29:51,875 and I was coughing up all this gross shit... 553 00:29:51,959 --> 00:29:54,959 And I look, and Dorian is running, he's like, "Aah!" 554 00:29:55,410 --> 00:29:58,166 And he comes and grabs me, "Oh, my God, we made it!" 555 00:29:58,250 --> 00:29:59,750 We hug, we're laughing, 556 00:29:59,834 --> 00:30:01,917 and my ears are messed up, my body hurts, 557 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,542 and I'm like, "I almost died!" 558 00:30:03,625 --> 00:30:05,750 And Dorian's like, "I'm goin' back out." 559 00:30:05,834 --> 00:30:08,830 And I'm like... ding! 560 00:30:08,166 --> 00:30:10,000 Like, "Arghh!" 561 00:30:10,830 --> 00:30:12,333 It's a fine line between 562 00:30:12,417 --> 00:30:14,125 having the best wave of your life 563 00:30:14,208 --> 00:30:15,667 and actually getting hurt. 564 00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:17,792 Jack Johnson blew his face up one time 565 00:30:17,875 --> 00:30:19,875 on a Kelly "You won't go." 566 00:30:24,410 --> 00:30:25,625 I went to Jack's house, 567 00:30:25,709 --> 00:30:27,667 and he looked like the Elephant Man. 568 00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:29,166 His teeth were missing. 569 00:30:29,250 --> 00:30:31,000 The only think I could do was almost laugh 570 00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:33,417 because it was uncomfortable-- I don't even know what to say. 571 00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:35,830 That wave you hurt yourself on-- 572 00:30:35,166 --> 00:30:37,667 why you told everyone that I said you won't go on that? 573 00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:39,542 Why did you do that? Trying to make me feel bad? 574 00:30:39,625 --> 00:30:41,410 I didn't tell anybody that, Kelly. 575 00:30:41,125 --> 00:30:44,542 His life was altered, like, he almost died. 576 00:30:44,625 --> 00:30:47,208 Almost dying in big waves, as morbid as it sounds, 577 00:30:47,291 --> 00:30:50,166 is one of the things that's exciting about big wave surfing. 578 00:30:50,250 --> 00:30:53,709 It's that kind of junkie vibe you get from it that keeps you coming back. 579 00:30:56,709 --> 00:30:58,667 We've all had stitches, 580 00:30:58,750 --> 00:31:01,208 we've all bounced off the bottom. 581 00:31:05,208 --> 00:31:08,375 You go out when it's 10 feet, and you're like, 582 00:31:08,458 --> 00:31:11,792 "Oh, wow. I took a couple on the head, I hit the bottom, 583 00:31:11,875 --> 00:31:13,667 and I'm OK." 584 00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:16,208 So then you go out when it's 12 feet. 585 00:31:18,625 --> 00:31:20,917 Next thing you know it's 20 feet. 586 00:31:23,792 --> 00:31:25,750 I couldn't get out of the barrel. 587 00:31:25,834 --> 00:31:27,542 The whole way I'm just going, "Whoa!" 588 00:31:27,625 --> 00:31:29,875 And I'd think I'd be coming out, and it'd keep peeling, 589 00:31:29,959 --> 00:31:31,834 like, "What?! What?! What?!" 590 00:31:31,917 --> 00:31:34,542 I remember being out on this huge day at Pipeline 591 00:31:34,625 --> 00:31:37,959 and watching Shane Dorian catch a 20-foot left. 592 00:31:39,458 --> 00:31:42,375 I'm like, "Oh, my God. Dude, that's my friend! 593 00:31:42,458 --> 00:31:43,834 He's on a 20-foot-- 594 00:31:43,917 --> 00:31:46,291 Well, if he got one, then I can get one." 595 00:31:46,375 --> 00:31:48,917 Whoa! Whoa! 596 00:31:51,625 --> 00:31:54,542 Before long, our crew was ruling Pipeline. 597 00:31:54,625 --> 00:31:56,208 I mean, we were catching all the sets, 598 00:31:56,291 --> 00:31:58,375 and it all came from putting our time in 599 00:31:58,458 --> 00:32:00,500 and taking our place. 600 00:32:11,792 --> 00:32:13,583 Whoo-hoo! 601 00:32:13,667 --> 00:32:15,458 One day Surfer magazine calls me, 602 00:32:15,542 --> 00:32:17,333 "Hey, we're gonna do a photo of your house." 603 00:32:17,417 --> 00:32:19,830 And I was like, "Cool. Why?" 604 00:32:19,166 --> 00:32:21,291 And the photo is legendary now. 605 00:32:21,375 --> 00:32:23,208 When I look at it, I'm like, "Oh, I get it. 606 00:32:23,291 --> 00:32:25,166 I know what everyone was saying-- 'Benji's house!'" 607 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,125 That day our crew was set in stone. 608 00:32:31,208 --> 00:32:33,375 We were a brotherhood. 609 00:32:33,458 --> 00:32:35,792 We had our own language for a long time. 610 00:32:35,875 --> 00:32:37,709 We'd all just speak in weird tongues 611 00:32:37,792 --> 00:32:40,834 and just had so many code words that were like four layers deep. 612 00:32:41,875 --> 00:32:43,208 Get up, boolay! 613 00:32:43,291 --> 00:32:45,959 The contest is on, bro. Get up and get some cereal. 614 00:32:46,410 --> 00:32:47,792 This is your sock on drugs. 615 00:32:47,875 --> 00:32:50,375 This is my sock on PK. 616 00:32:50,458 --> 00:32:52,125 Kalani was like a younger brother 617 00:32:52,208 --> 00:32:54,375 who doesn't know where he fits in sometimes. 618 00:32:54,458 --> 00:32:56,625 And so he would be like a little shit to us. 619 00:32:56,709 --> 00:32:58,375 One time we were jumping on the trampoline, 620 00:32:58,458 --> 00:33:00,709 and for absolutely no reason whatsoever, 621 00:33:00,792 --> 00:33:02,709 on an up-bounce he just pushed me into the bushes. 622 00:33:02,792 --> 00:33:04,834 I got up and I wanted to kill him, but he's so small, 623 00:33:04,917 --> 00:33:07,166 I'm like, "Why did you do that?" He's like, "I don't know. 624 00:33:07,250 --> 00:33:09,166 I just felt like doing it." 625 00:33:09,250 --> 00:33:11,375 We sponsored Kalani when he was ten years old. 626 00:33:11,458 --> 00:33:13,166 He was really wiggly and really fast, 627 00:33:13,250 --> 00:33:14,625 really squirmy-- wiggly, wiggly, wiggly! 628 00:33:14,709 --> 00:33:16,667 I'm like, "This guy's so wiggly!" 629 00:33:16,750 --> 00:33:18,792 He was this big-- he was like an action figure. 630 00:33:18,875 --> 00:33:22,458 And he was doing things that no 12-year-old's ever done. 631 00:33:22,542 --> 00:33:25,208 He's got the genes of Superman. 632 00:33:25,291 --> 00:33:29,166 He could eat cinnamon rolls and get ripped. 633 00:33:29,250 --> 00:33:31,750 We all had different diets, completely. 634 00:33:31,834 --> 00:33:34,667 Shane eats protein and raw deer 635 00:33:34,750 --> 00:33:38,000 and stuff that he kills-- Arr! Arr! Arr! Like that. 636 00:33:38,830 --> 00:33:40,375 Machado, quesadillas. 637 00:33:40,458 --> 00:33:43,291 All day! That's it! Ranch quesadillas. 638 00:33:43,375 --> 00:33:46,583 Kelly eats raw almonds and air. 639 00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:48,959 Ross is on 640 00:33:49,410 --> 00:33:52,208 a paleo-anorexic-heroin diet. 641 00:33:53,417 --> 00:33:55,458 I eat carbs-- unhh!-- 642 00:33:55,542 --> 00:33:56,834 out of beer bottles. 643 00:33:56,917 --> 00:33:59,667 Benji's the class clown. 644 00:34:01,830 --> 00:34:02,417 Benji doesn't have 645 00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:04,830 one competitive bone in his body, 646 00:34:04,166 --> 00:34:05,875 so he's like the extreme-- there's Kelly, 647 00:34:05,959 --> 00:34:07,830 and there's Benji over here. 648 00:34:10,750 --> 00:34:12,375 I thought we were boxing! 649 00:34:12,458 --> 00:34:14,208 I'm outta here. 650 00:34:14,291 --> 00:34:15,875 I gotta surf tomorrow. 651 00:34:15,959 --> 00:34:19,250 Kelly is hell, because we all think 652 00:34:19,333 --> 00:34:21,875 he sold his soul to the devil. 653 00:34:21,959 --> 00:34:24,410 He's always been freakishly flexible. 654 00:34:24,125 --> 00:34:25,959 He's got scoliosis in his spine. 655 00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:29,625 That is so wrong. 656 00:34:29,709 --> 00:34:31,250 Triple-jointed, 657 00:34:31,333 --> 00:34:33,875 the weird nugget calves with the twig legs. 658 00:34:33,959 --> 00:34:36,291 He's got a body that no human's supposed to have. 659 00:34:36,375 --> 00:34:37,625 Like, he's creepy body. 660 00:34:39,583 --> 00:34:42,959 Kelly's lucky he's Syrian. He's meant to be in the sun. 661 00:34:43,410 --> 00:34:45,417 Shane is just Shane-o. 662 00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:47,417 Shane-o! 663 00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:49,583 He was super into his hair. 664 00:34:49,667 --> 00:34:52,250 I think that's a bad thing for a guy who's bald now. 665 00:34:52,333 --> 00:34:55,458 I'm glad I was never that into my hair. 666 00:34:55,542 --> 00:34:58,250 Whenever a camera would come out, 667 00:34:58,333 --> 00:35:02,000 Shane would kind of pucker his lips. 668 00:35:02,830 --> 00:35:04,417 We used to all give him shit, like, "What are you doing with your mouth, dude?" 669 00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:08,458 Shane did the frickin' "Zoolander" Blue Steel before that movie came out. 670 00:35:10,500 --> 00:35:12,583 Ross. Really sarcastic, 671 00:35:12,667 --> 00:35:15,125 dirty sense of humor-- I like it. 672 00:35:15,208 --> 00:35:16,917 Ross is super-gross, 673 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,250 says horribly inappropriate things, 674 00:35:19,333 --> 00:35:21,458 but looks like the nicest guy you've ever met. 675 00:35:21,542 --> 00:35:24,583 Pat is like a little garden gnome. 676 00:35:24,667 --> 00:35:27,417 He is the happiest guy in the world. 677 00:35:27,500 --> 00:35:28,917 When Pat has a bad day, 678 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,166 he's like, Man, I'm so bummed right now." 679 00:35:31,250 --> 00:35:32,667 That's Pat being mad right there. 680 00:35:32,750 --> 00:35:34,166 Pat's balls, 681 00:35:34,250 --> 00:35:35,792 he had a fascination 682 00:35:35,875 --> 00:35:37,291 with his balls when we were young. 683 00:35:37,375 --> 00:35:40,709 You'd look over at him at lunch or lineup 684 00:35:40,792 --> 00:35:42,959 or when we're waiting for a flight, 685 00:35:43,410 --> 00:35:44,375 and he'd just have his balls out. 686 00:35:44,458 --> 00:35:45,625 He was proud of his balls. 687 00:35:45,709 --> 00:35:47,583 He was like a little guy with big balls. 688 00:35:51,458 --> 00:35:53,667 Yeah, I don't know. 689 00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:57,410 I just would-- they'd always just drop out. 690 00:35:57,125 --> 00:35:59,750 Is anyone there? Where the hell am I?! 691 00:35:59,834 --> 00:36:02,500 Taylor Knox is the biggest jock of our crew. 692 00:36:02,583 --> 00:36:04,500 The quarterback guy in high school 693 00:36:04,583 --> 00:36:06,166 that pulled underwear up the guy's butt? 694 00:36:06,250 --> 00:36:08,750 - He was that guy. - Taylor Knox, 695 00:36:08,834 --> 00:36:11,000 his nickname was Bonehead. 696 00:36:11,830 --> 00:36:13,500 We're not supposed to say that, though. 697 00:36:14,583 --> 00:36:16,417 Anyone else call him Bonehead? 698 00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:18,250 Am I the only one? 699 00:36:21,417 --> 00:36:25,125 Rob Machado, we just call him The Fro. Fromo. 700 00:36:25,208 --> 00:36:27,834 It grows fast, dude. You got a pretty fertile head. 701 00:36:27,917 --> 00:36:31,830 - You said "head." - You said "fertile." 702 00:36:31,166 --> 00:36:33,500 Let's be honest, the white Jimi Hendrix. 703 00:36:33,583 --> 00:36:35,291 They would see him walking down the street in Japan, 704 00:36:35,375 --> 00:36:37,709 and it was like Elvis sighting-- you'd just see the afro. 705 00:36:37,792 --> 00:36:41,166 You would see that thing going through, it'd be, "Aaah! Rob Machado!" 706 00:36:41,250 --> 00:36:44,208 And then there was Taylor Steele. 707 00:36:47,834 --> 00:36:49,500 Every morning on my way to school, 708 00:36:49,583 --> 00:36:51,792 I'd have to walk right by this old van, 709 00:36:51,875 --> 00:36:54,709 it looked like a rapist's van, 100%. 710 00:36:54,792 --> 00:36:57,542 One day, it's almost Christmas, 711 00:36:57,625 --> 00:36:59,458 and my mom goes, "Why don't you invite 712 00:36:59,542 --> 00:37:01,750 those two boys in that van out there for dinner?" 713 00:37:01,834 --> 00:37:03,667 And I go, "What?! No way!" 714 00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:06,125 She's like, "Come on, they don't have their family here." 715 00:37:06,208 --> 00:37:08,792 So I go out there, I'm "Hey, guys," ya know? 716 00:37:08,875 --> 00:37:11,410 The whole door comes open, 717 00:37:11,125 --> 00:37:13,625 I'm like, "Whoa," they lived in there, it was kind of gnarly. 718 00:37:13,709 --> 00:37:15,792 And I'm like, "You guys want to have Christmas dinner here?" 719 00:37:15,875 --> 00:37:17,410 They're like, "Yeah!" 720 00:37:17,125 --> 00:37:20,667 Yeah, that story's not true at all. 721 00:37:20,750 --> 00:37:22,410 Benji only let me stay at his house 722 00:37:22,125 --> 00:37:23,625 because I was doing his chores for him. 723 00:37:23,709 --> 00:37:26,667 Are you having fun doing dishes? 724 00:37:26,750 --> 00:37:28,500 We were shooting Pipeline every day, 725 00:37:28,583 --> 00:37:30,333 because that was the spot to shoot. 726 00:37:30,417 --> 00:37:33,667 Seeing yourself on video was a huge novelty at that time. 727 00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:35,625 There was no one on the beach with cameras. 728 00:37:39,417 --> 00:37:41,375 That was way before videos were videos. 729 00:37:41,458 --> 00:37:44,333 We weren't in videos, only big-time corporate companies did videos. 730 00:37:44,417 --> 00:37:47,830 After each session, Taylor would only 731 00:37:47,166 --> 00:37:49,208 let us watch it one time through, 732 00:37:49,291 --> 00:37:51,208 and we couldn't stop to rewind or pause. 733 00:37:51,291 --> 00:37:53,000 'Cause it would destroy the tape. 734 00:37:53,830 --> 00:37:55,709 There's be like 25 of us, all screaming, 735 00:37:55,792 --> 00:37:57,458 "Look how smashed Shane-o got!" 736 00:37:57,542 --> 00:37:59,417 Or, "He had the best one, he won the session today." 737 00:37:59,500 --> 00:38:01,250 So that could be like five hours. 738 00:38:01,333 --> 00:38:03,875 One day, I remember Taylor telling us 739 00:38:03,959 --> 00:38:05,417 "I'm gonna make this movie, 740 00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:06,959 and you guys are all gonna have parts." 741 00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:09,792 So then we started working on our parts. 742 00:38:09,875 --> 00:38:13,750 None of us really knew what was about to happen. 743 00:38:17,417 --> 00:38:20,542 The guys were surfing faster and more energetic, 744 00:38:20,625 --> 00:38:22,417 and I wanted that kind of feel to it. 745 00:38:25,959 --> 00:38:29,583 Punk rock and surfing were never merged before. 746 00:38:29,667 --> 00:38:32,125 And I didn't know it until I put in the first edit, 747 00:38:32,208 --> 00:38:33,709 and once I saw it in an edit, 748 00:38:33,792 --> 00:38:35,375 I went, "That is the perfect mix." 749 00:38:47,917 --> 00:38:51,625 But my parents, they just didn't get it. 750 00:38:51,709 --> 00:38:53,917 The footage didn't look that great, 751 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,250 it was kind of grainy. 752 00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:57,000 I'm old school. 753 00:38:57,830 --> 00:38:58,834 All the surf movies I'd seen 754 00:38:58,917 --> 00:39:01,542 had scenery and locations. 755 00:39:03,291 --> 00:39:06,250 At the time, surf movies were built on 756 00:39:06,333 --> 00:39:08,410 going to an exotic destination 757 00:39:08,125 --> 00:39:10,750 that only a handful of people could afford. 758 00:39:10,834 --> 00:39:14,166 But Taylor's movies were built in everyday conditions. 759 00:39:14,250 --> 00:39:17,500 All of a sudden, the kids could relate. 760 00:39:17,583 --> 00:39:19,000 They're like, "Oh, my God! 761 00:39:19,830 --> 00:39:20,667 I just got to watch the best surfers 762 00:39:20,750 --> 00:39:23,000 surf waves that I surf every day." 763 00:39:38,792 --> 00:39:43,830 We didn't relate to it, but we said, "What we'll do is 764 00:39:43,166 --> 00:39:44,959 we'll pay for the first thousand, 765 00:39:45,410 --> 00:39:46,834 but you have to go sell 'em." 766 00:39:46,917 --> 00:39:48,875 This is Taylor. That's an attack dog for ya. 767 00:39:48,959 --> 00:39:50,834 - What have you been doin'? - Makin' movies. 768 00:39:50,917 --> 00:39:53,583 - You doin' this for school? - Just for the hell of it. 769 00:39:53,667 --> 00:39:55,208 This guy, he's from Bubblegum. 770 00:39:55,291 --> 00:39:57,834 Come in on Monday. I'll take care of ya. 771 00:39:57,917 --> 00:40:01,750 When Taylor came back and said he sold all of 'em, we were in shock. 772 00:40:01,834 --> 00:40:05,583 We started liking it. My husband would work out to the music. 773 00:40:05,667 --> 00:40:09,125 Wow, look at all those people coming! 774 00:40:09,208 --> 00:40:10,792 Holy shit! 775 00:40:15,375 --> 00:40:17,333 It was such a success that Taylor immediately was like, 776 00:40:17,417 --> 00:40:19,583 "We're gonna do another one of these things." 777 00:40:22,410 --> 00:40:25,250 We're gonna film for a year-- try and make the best part you can." 778 00:40:28,125 --> 00:40:30,750 Taylor's movies were like the glue between us. 779 00:40:30,834 --> 00:40:33,625 They were the thing that bonded us, kept us together, 780 00:40:33,709 --> 00:40:36,750 traveling together, staying together, filming together. 781 00:40:40,750 --> 00:40:43,875 You're taking your seat belt off again. 782 00:40:43,959 --> 00:40:47,291 Sorry. I didn't even know they were filming me this day. 783 00:40:47,375 --> 00:40:50,250 I was just out there. The sun was too bright, so I'm like, "Aah!" 784 00:40:50,333 --> 00:40:52,166 Then somebody snapped a picture of me. 785 00:40:52,250 --> 00:40:53,959 I just want to sleep. 786 00:40:57,792 --> 00:40:59,417 We started touring the movies 787 00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:01,959 with the bands that had songs in the films. 788 00:41:04,625 --> 00:41:07,208 If there's more than five people in this bar, I'm not doing it. 789 00:41:07,291 --> 00:41:09,750 It was all about having a heart 790 00:41:09,834 --> 00:41:11,291 that is beating really fast 791 00:41:11,375 --> 00:41:12,959 and it's gonna explode out of your chest 792 00:41:13,410 --> 00:41:14,625 if you don't make something of yourself, 793 00:41:14,709 --> 00:41:16,625 because you're driven to change how it was 794 00:41:16,709 --> 00:41:17,750 when you were younger. 795 00:41:22,709 --> 00:41:24,625 We were all disenfranchised youth 796 00:41:24,709 --> 00:41:26,375 trying to find our own way. 797 00:41:29,542 --> 00:41:31,583 There would be no Unwritten Law 798 00:41:31,667 --> 00:41:33,333 without the Momentum and Focus videos. 799 00:41:33,417 --> 00:41:36,125 When we recognized we had fans across the planet, 800 00:41:36,208 --> 00:41:40,410 we just kind of celebrated every night... since then. 801 00:41:47,834 --> 00:41:51,830 Taylor's movie was the biggest thing that ever happened to our band. 802 00:41:51,166 --> 00:41:53,375 It changed our lives completely. 803 00:41:53,458 --> 00:41:54,834 It meant that we could put out records 804 00:41:54,917 --> 00:41:56,500 and go on tour for the rest of our lives, 805 00:41:56,583 --> 00:41:58,458 and that's what we did. 806 00:41:58,542 --> 00:42:00,458 ♪ Especially those who weren't with us too long ♪ 807 00:42:00,542 --> 00:42:03,875 ♪ Life is the most precious thing you can lose ♪ 808 00:42:03,959 --> 00:42:08,792 ♪ Canton, Colvin, Nichols, this one's for you! ♪ 809 00:42:08,875 --> 00:42:12,750 ♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh ♪ 810 00:42:12,834 --> 00:42:17,542 ♪ Oh, oh oh oh ♪ 811 00:42:25,625 --> 00:42:27,208 We wanna thank Taylor Steele 812 00:42:27,291 --> 00:42:28,709 for making this all fuckin' possible. 813 00:42:28,792 --> 00:42:30,959 Give it up for Taylor Steele! 814 00:42:32,959 --> 00:42:35,625 Taylor Steele's movies made the Momentum crew 815 00:42:35,709 --> 00:42:37,542 all pretty big and pretty popular. 816 00:42:37,625 --> 00:42:39,208 But there wasn't a lot of belief 817 00:42:39,291 --> 00:42:41,291 amongst the old guard that these guys 818 00:42:41,375 --> 00:42:43,709 were actually gonna make it competitively. 819 00:42:43,792 --> 00:42:45,500 Rob Back then, there was two things 820 00:42:45,583 --> 00:42:47,000 that were important to us. 821 00:42:47,830 --> 00:42:49,458 Getting a good section in Taylor's movies, 822 00:42:49,542 --> 00:42:52,875 and making it on the world tour. 823 00:42:52,959 --> 00:42:56,542 The world tour used to be the top 44 surfers in the world 824 00:42:56,625 --> 00:42:59,917 competing through a series of 10 to 12 events, 825 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,625 all over the world, 826 00:43:01,709 --> 00:43:03,625 and only one guy is crowned World Champion 827 00:43:03,709 --> 00:43:05,458 at the end of the year. 828 00:43:05,542 --> 00:43:08,500 The Australians were dominant, like the Hawaiians in Hawaii. 829 00:43:08,583 --> 00:43:10,250 That's their zone. 830 00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:15,583 Well over 50% of guys on tour 831 00:43:15,667 --> 00:43:17,417 were from Australia. 832 00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:20,830 Australia and America had a great rivalry going. 833 00:43:20,166 --> 00:43:23,500 When we drew those guys in the heats, it made us try that much harder. 834 00:43:23,583 --> 00:43:25,959 Whatever happens, I'm gonna get a chance to beat him, 835 00:43:26,410 --> 00:43:28,875 and I'm just really looking forward to that opportunity. 836 00:43:28,959 --> 00:43:30,917 The Australian guys were so dominant at the time, 837 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,375 so many world champions, they were this old guard 838 00:43:33,458 --> 00:43:35,125 on the tour that we all looked up to. 839 00:43:35,208 --> 00:43:37,792 I'd see these guys I'd seen in the magazines. 840 00:43:37,875 --> 00:43:39,583 I was so star-struck. 841 00:43:39,667 --> 00:43:41,625 Then we'd get in heats with them, and they were so willing 842 00:43:41,709 --> 00:43:43,417 to do anything it took to beat us. 843 00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:45,750 And I mean anything. 844 00:43:45,834 --> 00:43:47,834 Paddle through the pack, growl at everyone, 845 00:43:47,917 --> 00:43:49,583 give them stink-eye, make sure 846 00:43:49,667 --> 00:43:51,125 that every good wave that comes through, you're on it. 847 00:43:51,208 --> 00:43:52,500 You don't give a shit about anyone else. 848 00:43:52,583 --> 00:43:53,875 It's a selfish sport-- 849 00:43:53,959 --> 00:43:56,375 "Get out of my bloody way. It's my day." 850 00:43:56,458 --> 00:43:58,959 It was like our generation versus their generation, 851 00:43:59,410 --> 00:44:01,625 and those guy saw us as a total threat. 852 00:44:01,709 --> 00:44:03,291 There was so much on the line. 853 00:44:03,375 --> 00:44:05,125 This is my career, my lifestyle 854 00:44:05,208 --> 00:44:07,166 that's setting myself up for the rest of my life, 855 00:44:07,250 --> 00:44:10,830 so I'm not gonna let some little twerp take it away from me. 856 00:44:10,166 --> 00:44:11,625 I had a heat with Martin Potter, 857 00:44:11,709 --> 00:44:13,709 ended up winning right at the end. 858 00:44:13,792 --> 00:44:16,583 He ran up the beach and bashed his board into a big fence there, 859 00:44:16,667 --> 00:44:19,125 ripped out all the electrical cords, throwing a fit. 860 00:44:19,208 --> 00:44:22,542 I was so stoked that that was the reaction to him losing. 861 00:44:22,625 --> 00:44:25,709 My first year on tour, I took down Martin Potter. 862 00:44:25,792 --> 00:44:29,208 I remember hearing him yelling on the beach. 863 00:44:29,291 --> 00:44:31,792 And I was just sitting out in the water-- 864 00:44:31,875 --> 00:44:33,875 giggling. 865 00:44:33,959 --> 00:44:36,834 My first win on tour was against Gary Elkerton, 866 00:44:36,917 --> 00:44:38,375 and it was in France, where he lived. 867 00:44:38,458 --> 00:44:40,208 It turned into this big protest, 868 00:44:40,291 --> 00:44:41,875 his wife came and rushed the stand, 869 00:44:41,959 --> 00:44:44,500 he starts throwing his board and screaming at the judges. 870 00:44:44,583 --> 00:44:46,291 I thought it was great. I loved it. 871 00:44:46,375 --> 00:44:48,625 I loved every second of it. 872 00:44:48,709 --> 00:44:51,291 The first time I ever competed against Slater, 873 00:44:51,375 --> 00:44:53,208 before the contest, Kelly's standing right there 874 00:44:53,291 --> 00:44:55,750 and he sort of puts his hand out to say "Good luck," 875 00:44:55,834 --> 00:44:59,417 and I slapped his hand away and said, "Get the frick out of my face, mate." 876 00:44:59,500 --> 00:45:02,750 But the whole surfing world knew he was the messiah. 877 00:45:02,834 --> 00:45:05,750 It was like, 878 00:45:05,834 --> 00:45:10,125 it's not if he's gonna win a world title, it's how many he's gonna win. 879 00:45:10,208 --> 00:45:13,875 Kelly was always by far the best surfer in our group. 880 00:45:13,959 --> 00:45:15,542 No one disputed that. 881 00:45:15,625 --> 00:45:19,709 We were all rooting for him to win the world title. 882 00:45:19,792 --> 00:45:23,625 In '91, Kelly finished 44th. 883 00:45:23,709 --> 00:45:25,709 And then that next year, 884 00:45:25,792 --> 00:45:27,458 he won the world title. 885 00:45:30,333 --> 00:45:35,830 We were just trippin'. It was a victory for all of us. 886 00:45:35,166 --> 00:45:37,709 We were working as a unit. 887 00:45:37,792 --> 00:45:39,250 Our levels were all rising, 888 00:45:39,333 --> 00:45:41,709 and in the successive years after, I won, 889 00:45:41,792 --> 00:45:44,125 '93, '94, '95. 890 00:45:44,208 --> 00:45:46,583 Basically all my friends started winning events. 891 00:45:46,667 --> 00:45:47,959 Kelly Slater! 892 00:45:48,410 --> 00:45:50,417 I just needed one wave, and thank God I got it. 893 00:45:50,500 --> 00:45:51,709 You seem to have found 894 00:45:51,792 --> 00:45:53,000 a new confidence from winning. 895 00:45:53,830 --> 00:45:54,625 Feels unreal. 896 00:45:54,709 --> 00:45:56,709 Taylor Knox, taking home the gold... 897 00:45:56,792 --> 00:45:58,792 I think it's really important for American surfing, 898 00:45:58,875 --> 00:46:00,709 because our level of surfing has improved drastically 899 00:46:00,792 --> 00:46:04,375 compared with the Australians over the last few years. 900 00:46:04,458 --> 00:46:06,750 Rob Machado celebrating... 901 00:46:06,834 --> 00:46:08,542 And the money goes to Rob Machado 902 00:46:08,625 --> 00:46:11,417 as the crowd roars its approval! 903 00:46:17,792 --> 00:46:19,875 I'd just like to thank all the fans 904 00:46:19,959 --> 00:46:23,417 for coming out and supporting-- it's just a great feeling. 905 00:46:23,500 --> 00:46:25,834 Do you have any messages to your mom or father or...? 906 00:46:25,917 --> 00:46:28,166 Yeah. I lo-- I lo-- I love 'em. 907 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,250 Well, thank you very much. 908 00:46:31,333 --> 00:46:32,709 Thanks. 909 00:46:32,792 --> 00:46:35,625 It was surreal. 910 00:46:35,709 --> 00:46:37,959 It wasn't a dream anymore. 911 00:46:40,830 --> 00:46:44,291 All of a sudden, being a pro surfer was a reality. 912 00:46:44,375 --> 00:46:46,542 We were just taking over the tour. 913 00:46:46,625 --> 00:46:49,542 Different lines being drawn... 914 00:46:49,625 --> 00:46:52,792 different boards being rode... 915 00:46:52,875 --> 00:46:55,917 more aerials, more tail slides, 916 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,125 faster. 917 00:46:58,208 --> 00:47:00,291 The judges had to adapt. 918 00:47:00,375 --> 00:47:02,125 Everyone had to adapt. 919 00:47:04,542 --> 00:47:07,625 It was a different way of surfing from what was being done before, 920 00:47:07,709 --> 00:47:09,959 where everything was sort of on the wave. 921 00:47:10,410 --> 00:47:14,208 OK, we've got that, but now we're gonna start going above the lip. 922 00:47:15,959 --> 00:47:17,917 Kelly and I were really working on 923 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,375 the narrower, thinner boards, 924 00:47:19,458 --> 00:47:22,625 so they could more easily be thrown into the air. 925 00:47:22,709 --> 00:47:26,542 I remember one time Kelly came down the line, surfing this wave, 926 00:47:26,625 --> 00:47:29,125 and flew over my head doing a helicopter, 927 00:47:29,208 --> 00:47:31,375 and landed. 928 00:47:31,458 --> 00:47:33,000 And I went, "Oh, my gosh, 929 00:47:33,830 --> 00:47:34,375 things are really changing." 930 00:47:34,458 --> 00:47:37,542 Hey, bud, let's party. 931 00:47:37,625 --> 00:47:39,000 Back in the '70s and '80s, 932 00:47:39,830 --> 00:47:40,333 if you surfed, you were a fuckin' loser, 933 00:47:40,417 --> 00:47:41,834 you were a hippie, a stoner. 934 00:47:41,917 --> 00:47:44,333 You didn't get respect if you were a surfer. 935 00:47:44,417 --> 00:47:47,000 At that time, there was a major drug culture 936 00:47:47,830 --> 00:47:48,834 within surfing as a whole, 937 00:47:48,917 --> 00:47:51,830 but in our group, nobody was doing drugs, 938 00:47:51,166 --> 00:47:52,375 it was a clean lifestyle. 939 00:47:52,458 --> 00:47:53,458 I've been asked to talk about 940 00:47:53,542 --> 00:47:54,834 how bad drugs are. 941 00:47:54,917 --> 00:47:57,291 To us, it was a real sport. 942 00:47:57,375 --> 00:47:59,709 And that was the thing that you could also package up 943 00:47:59,792 --> 00:48:02,166 and say, "These guys are actually athletes, 944 00:48:02,250 --> 00:48:03,792 they're taking it to this next level." 945 00:48:03,875 --> 00:48:05,333 ♪ Hey! ♪ 946 00:48:08,830 --> 00:48:10,375 Right before Taylor's movies came out, 947 00:48:10,458 --> 00:48:12,375 there was a pretty big recession in surfing, 948 00:48:12,458 --> 00:48:14,830 and then the Momentum Generation 949 00:48:14,166 --> 00:48:16,959 put a whole bunch of new energy into the sport. 950 00:48:17,410 --> 00:48:19,830 And surfing had a boom period. 951 00:48:19,166 --> 00:48:20,709 Surfing used to be a subculture, 952 00:48:20,792 --> 00:48:22,291 then it became a counterculture, 953 00:48:22,375 --> 00:48:23,917 and then it became an action sport. 954 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,750 - Jumped it... - Beat it... - Surfed it... 955 00:48:25,834 --> 00:48:27,375 You bring on the X Games, 956 00:48:27,458 --> 00:48:29,410 throw a little punk rock in there, 957 00:48:29,125 --> 00:48:31,208 all of a sudden it's on ESPN, ABC... 958 00:48:31,291 --> 00:48:33,375 MTV, youth movement, 959 00:48:33,458 --> 00:48:36,542 the industry changed, magazines changed, 960 00:48:36,625 --> 00:48:37,875 fashion changed, 961 00:48:37,959 --> 00:48:40,208 sponsors were popping up everywhere. 962 00:48:40,291 --> 00:48:42,417 The Momentum guys just leapfrogged 963 00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:44,750 all the expectations, all the boundaries. 964 00:48:44,834 --> 00:48:48,583 The surf world just went 180 degrees-- broop! 965 00:48:48,667 --> 00:48:50,208 All of a sudden, these guys were it. 966 00:48:50,291 --> 00:48:52,375 Those magical years 967 00:48:52,458 --> 00:48:55,208 when you saw all of our names growing together, 968 00:48:55,291 --> 00:48:59,417 Kelly paved the way, because he was crossing over into mainstream media. 969 00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:02,583 As embarrassed as Kelly is by doing "Baywatch," 970 00:49:02,667 --> 00:49:04,750 he went into how many millions of homes? 971 00:49:04,834 --> 00:49:06,291 That turned a light on for surfing, 972 00:49:06,375 --> 00:49:09,333 because you had some average family in Kentucky 973 00:49:09,417 --> 00:49:11,709 turn on "Baywatch" and like, "Who's this Kelly Slater guy?" 974 00:49:11,792 --> 00:49:13,667 "Oh, he surfs." "What's surfing?" 975 00:49:13,750 --> 00:49:15,125 Fuckin' "Baywatch." 976 00:49:15,208 --> 00:49:17,830 I mean, everybody made fun of him. 977 00:49:17,166 --> 00:49:19,750 It was unbelievable. It was the corniest thing ever. 978 00:49:19,834 --> 00:49:21,417 I was really insecure about it. 979 00:49:21,500 --> 00:49:23,410 I was like, "Fuck, why did I do this thing?" 980 00:49:23,125 --> 00:49:25,250 The whole things was so outrageous and ridiculous. 981 00:49:25,333 --> 00:49:28,125 We'd be surfing a place where we wouldn't have leashes, 982 00:49:28,208 --> 00:49:29,625 right in front of a cliff, 'cause that's what you do. 983 00:49:29,709 --> 00:49:31,208 And we would lose our boards 984 00:49:31,291 --> 00:49:33,410 and it would just perfectly go into this cave, 985 00:49:33,125 --> 00:49:34,458 which is what happens, 986 00:49:34,542 --> 00:49:36,959 and there would be an octopus in there, 987 00:49:37,410 --> 00:49:38,583 which is, of course, believable. 988 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,959 I looked at the guy who wrote that, 989 00:49:44,410 --> 00:49:47,792 I'm like, "You did not-- Did you write this?" 990 00:49:47,875 --> 00:49:49,542 The bottom line is, 991 00:49:49,625 --> 00:49:52,667 my boy was on the hottest TV show around, 992 00:49:52,750 --> 00:49:55,250 hooked up with the hottest woman on earth. 993 00:49:55,333 --> 00:49:57,625 Kelly Slater has become the envy of guys 994 00:49:57,709 --> 00:50:00,792 the world over for snagging the ultimate beach beauty, Pamela Anderson. 995 00:50:00,875 --> 00:50:02,750 ...Pamela Anderson, supporting her latest beau, 996 00:50:02,834 --> 00:50:04,208 contestant Kelly Slater. 997 00:50:04,291 --> 00:50:06,333 But is it serious? A bit too early to say. 998 00:50:06,417 --> 00:50:08,583 WoThey're both extraordinarily attractive people. 999 00:50:08,667 --> 00:50:10,333 Slater's agent says Anderson and Slater 1000 00:50:10,417 --> 00:50:12,917 are just very close friends. 1001 00:50:17,875 --> 00:50:20,500 They would hand out Photo Slut of the Year award 1002 00:50:20,583 --> 00:50:23,166 to the guy that just tried too hard. 1003 00:50:28,417 --> 00:50:29,834 'Cause Chesser would make fun of you 1004 00:50:29,917 --> 00:50:31,500 if you got too many photos in a magazine. 1005 00:50:31,583 --> 00:50:33,166 No photos, please. 1006 00:50:33,250 --> 00:50:34,875 Todd was like the moral compass 1007 00:50:34,959 --> 00:50:37,830 defining what was cool and not cool. 1008 00:50:37,166 --> 00:50:39,834 Listen here, Spielberg, turn off the camera. 1009 00:50:39,917 --> 00:50:41,709 Chesser was the guy that kept everybody honest, 1010 00:50:41,792 --> 00:50:44,667 kept everybody real and humble. 1011 00:50:44,750 --> 00:50:46,625 If anybody got on their high horse, 1012 00:50:46,709 --> 00:50:48,458 he would just level them. 1013 00:50:48,542 --> 00:50:50,410 I want to ask you about your morals 1014 00:50:50,125 --> 00:50:53,333 and if you feel cheap about using women for sex. 1015 00:50:53,417 --> 00:50:54,959 - No. - No? 1016 00:50:55,410 --> 00:50:56,875 - Not at all. - No remorse? 1017 00:50:56,959 --> 00:50:58,458 You ever puffed your chest out, 1018 00:50:58,542 --> 00:51:00,291 Todd would be the first one to pop your bubble. 1019 00:51:02,830 --> 00:51:03,709 He was really a soulful guy. 1020 00:51:03,792 --> 00:51:07,542 He didn't seek out the limelight. 1021 00:51:07,625 --> 00:51:10,208 "Don't just surf when there's cameras on the beach, 1022 00:51:10,291 --> 00:51:11,583 like, who are you?" 1023 00:51:11,667 --> 00:51:13,583 Say hello to your family. 1024 00:51:13,667 --> 00:51:15,917 I'm putting music over all this stuff. 1025 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,250 To all the guys, Todd came across as so macho, 1026 00:51:19,333 --> 00:51:21,875 but really, when it was just me and him, 1027 00:51:21,959 --> 00:51:23,458 he was such a softie. 1028 00:51:25,709 --> 00:51:29,250 One night, Todd kept saying, "You should go to this one bar." 1029 00:51:29,333 --> 00:51:31,830 So me and all my friends were there, 1030 00:51:31,166 --> 00:51:32,959 and all of a sudden, the singer goes, 1031 00:51:33,410 --> 00:51:35,125 "We have a special guest here tonight. 1032 00:51:35,208 --> 00:51:38,410 Mr. Todd Chesser, come up." 1033 00:51:38,125 --> 00:51:41,250 He has this white '70s ruffled tuxedo on. 1034 00:51:41,333 --> 00:51:44,834 And he got down on one knee and said, 1035 00:51:44,917 --> 00:51:49,125 "Will you marry me, honey baby?" 1036 00:51:49,208 --> 00:51:52,166 And the singer said, "Now you've gotta answer." 1037 00:51:52,250 --> 00:51:53,625 And I said, "Yes!" 1038 00:51:53,709 --> 00:51:56,125 Ooh! 1039 00:51:58,417 --> 00:52:01,750 - Todd: How glad are we? - So glad. 1040 00:52:01,834 --> 00:52:03,417 Everything was coming into place. 1041 00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:05,750 He found the girl of his dreams, he had a good sponsor, 1042 00:52:05,834 --> 00:52:07,875 everything was going just terrifically. 1043 00:52:09,917 --> 00:52:11,834 Did I tell you how lucky you are? 1044 00:52:11,917 --> 00:52:15,125 For Todd, it was the time to finally grow up. 1045 00:52:15,208 --> 00:52:19,291 We were all so excited for him to get married, the whole deal. 1046 00:52:19,375 --> 00:52:20,542 Good morning! 1047 00:52:20,625 --> 00:52:22,291 Where's the freakin' elephants? 1048 00:52:22,375 --> 00:52:25,250 He was just a good example to remind us 1049 00:52:25,333 --> 00:52:28,333 to stay true to ourselves and remember what's important. 1050 00:52:28,417 --> 00:52:30,917 He was the closest thing to a soul surfer out of all us, 1051 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,000 because he didn't care about the accolades. 1052 00:52:34,830 --> 00:52:38,333 It's not about titles, it's about being happy. 1053 00:52:40,208 --> 00:52:42,291 I mean, nothing was cooler about our crew 1054 00:52:42,375 --> 00:52:44,208 than when Kelly won his first world title, 1055 00:52:44,291 --> 00:52:46,417 we put that jerk in a frickin' trash can 1056 00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:49,375 with a helmet and a blanket, we pushed him down a hill. 1057 00:52:52,583 --> 00:52:55,333 He just ate crap the whole way down. 1058 00:52:55,417 --> 00:52:57,834 Any other sport, the Michael Jordon of that sport 1059 00:52:57,917 --> 00:53:00,667 is not rolling down a mountain after his first world title. 1060 00:53:00,750 --> 00:53:02,500 It was crazy. It was a crazy time. 1061 00:53:02,583 --> 00:53:05,875 I felt like all of my childhood dreams came together 1062 00:53:05,959 --> 00:53:08,709 in this weird reality where I was with my friends, traveling around the world, 1063 00:53:08,792 --> 00:53:12,291 doing what I wanted to do for a living. 1064 00:53:12,375 --> 00:53:16,583 The best feeling I had was, I just belonged. 1065 00:53:16,667 --> 00:53:18,500 For the longest time in my life, 1066 00:53:18,583 --> 00:53:20,959 I felt like the carrot dangling in front of the horse, 1067 00:53:21,410 --> 00:53:23,208 where it was right in front of me for so long 1068 00:53:23,291 --> 00:53:26,333 and I was like, "Oh, I finally got the carrot." 1069 00:54:02,667 --> 00:54:03,709 Yes! 1070 00:54:05,830 --> 00:54:06,959 Yeah! 1071 00:54:13,625 --> 00:54:15,458 Well, you got one now. 1072 00:54:29,875 --> 00:54:31,830 Aaah! 1073 00:54:49,166 --> 00:54:51,333 Ohhh! Ohhh! 1074 00:54:53,166 --> 00:54:54,834 Oh ho! The boys are in town! 1075 00:55:00,208 --> 00:55:01,542 That was great. 1076 00:55:01,625 --> 00:55:03,208 Let's get outta here. 1077 00:55:08,166 --> 00:55:10,792 In the mid-'90s, it was our show. 1078 00:55:10,875 --> 00:55:13,625 It was no longer the new kids up against 1079 00:55:13,709 --> 00:55:17,750 the guys that were still hanging around from the '80s. 1080 00:55:17,834 --> 00:55:20,542 We weren't looking up anymore. We were looking at each other. 1081 00:55:26,250 --> 00:55:28,542 The only reason Shane's good 1082 00:55:28,625 --> 00:55:30,375 is because he hangs out with me. 1083 00:55:30,458 --> 00:55:31,834 It's the only reason. 1084 00:55:33,250 --> 00:55:34,166 What?! 1085 00:55:34,250 --> 00:55:36,166 'Cause I like beating Ross. 1086 00:55:36,250 --> 00:55:39,410 He hasn't beaten me in a long time, and I'm really proud of that. 1087 00:55:40,250 --> 00:55:41,792 Ross and Shane 1088 00:55:41,875 --> 00:55:44,000 had this crazy rivalry at the time. 1089 00:55:44,830 --> 00:55:47,375 They're the same age, they have the same sponsor-- 1090 00:55:47,458 --> 00:55:49,625 they were competing at every level. 1091 00:55:49,709 --> 00:55:52,208 - Get that right. Wanna go? - I might do that. 1092 00:56:01,830 --> 00:56:04,792 I can still remember Shane had a heat with Ross 1093 00:56:04,875 --> 00:56:06,667 at Reunion Island. 1094 00:56:06,750 --> 00:56:08,208 They were screaming at each other, 1095 00:56:08,291 --> 00:56:10,000 "Fuck-you's," and we were just like, 1096 00:56:10,830 --> 00:56:12,375 "I'm gonna get the hell out of here." 1097 00:56:17,250 --> 00:56:19,458 You know "There's two sides to every story"? There's not. 1098 00:56:19,542 --> 00:56:23,250 This story, there's only one side that's the truth. 1099 00:56:23,333 --> 00:56:25,458 We were staying together at Reunion Island, 1100 00:56:25,542 --> 00:56:27,208 and then we were in the same heat, 1101 00:56:27,291 --> 00:56:29,542 Shane versus Ross, the next day, 1102 00:56:29,625 --> 00:56:31,834 and one board that was super, super good. 1103 00:56:31,917 --> 00:56:34,125 I was so amped on the board, I remember telling Ross 1104 00:56:34,208 --> 00:56:35,500 how good my board worked. 1105 00:56:35,583 --> 00:56:38,375 The next morning I wake up, Ross is gone, 1106 00:56:38,458 --> 00:56:41,250 perfect fist-size hole in my board. 1107 00:56:41,333 --> 00:56:44,750 And we're staying together in the same room with no one else around. 1108 00:56:44,834 --> 00:56:47,583 Like woke up in the middle of the night and punched his board? 1109 00:56:47,667 --> 00:56:49,792 I don't know, I must have blocked that out. 1110 00:56:49,875 --> 00:56:53,333 I don't remember doing that. That's crazy. What a snapper. 1111 00:56:53,417 --> 00:56:56,000 I grew up in Waialua, can't help it, I'm part moke. 1112 00:56:56,830 --> 00:56:58,417 I don't remember doing that, though. Is he sure? 1113 00:56:58,500 --> 00:57:01,458 I remember just going, "Wow, I can't believe he would do that! 1114 00:57:01,542 --> 00:57:03,250 So next level!" 1115 00:57:03,333 --> 00:57:05,417 But I beat him. 1116 00:57:06,750 --> 00:57:08,917 It felt so good. 1117 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,792 Riding the board with a hole in it and everything. 1118 00:57:13,583 --> 00:57:15,792 Well, of course Shane would tell you that story, 1119 00:57:15,875 --> 00:57:18,125 because that's the one where he smoked me. 1120 00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:21,830 But at the end of the day, 1121 00:57:21,166 --> 00:57:25,000 our rivalry wasn't as bad as Rob and Kelly. 1122 00:57:25,830 --> 00:57:27,417 Even if you get behind, you're just gonna quit? 1123 00:57:27,500 --> 00:57:29,417 Yeah. Yeah, I like quitting. 1124 00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:31,250 It makes it easier, ya know? 1125 00:57:31,333 --> 00:57:33,625 I could tell that about you. You give up real easily. 1126 00:57:33,709 --> 00:57:35,458 Especially that one year, '95, 1127 00:57:35,542 --> 00:57:36,959 where everything came to a head, 1128 00:57:37,410 --> 00:57:38,417 there was conflict. 1129 00:57:38,500 --> 00:57:40,417 So that's when you see this magnifying glass 1130 00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:44,709 on that raw motivation for Kelly, almost like demons. 1131 00:57:46,250 --> 00:57:48,875 It gets put on a forefront against Rob. 1132 00:57:48,959 --> 00:57:50,750 Feels really good to be right here... 1133 00:57:50,834 --> 00:57:52,583 Rob Kelly won the world title in '92. 1134 00:57:52,667 --> 00:57:56,458 And '94. The rest of our crew, 1135 00:57:56,542 --> 00:57:58,410 some of us had won events, 1136 00:57:58,125 --> 00:58:01,333 but no one had even come close to winning a world title. 1137 00:58:01,417 --> 00:58:05,625 And then '95, I was having a really good year. 1138 00:58:05,709 --> 00:58:09,333 I got a win in Japan, Kelly won Indonesia. 1139 00:58:09,417 --> 00:58:11,542 I won an event in France... 1140 00:58:11,625 --> 00:58:13,959 It was just this back-and-forth seesaw battle 1141 00:58:14,410 --> 00:58:15,583 throughout the year. 1142 00:58:15,667 --> 00:58:18,625 And then we came straight back to the U.S. Open. 1143 00:58:18,709 --> 00:58:20,458 And me and Kelly made the final, 1144 00:58:20,542 --> 00:58:23,583 and everybody was kind of pullin' for me. 1145 00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:28,417 Kelly was just better than everybody, almost all the time. 1146 00:58:28,500 --> 00:58:31,583 When he would win, we wouldn't all run down and cheer him at the beach, 1147 00:58:31,667 --> 00:58:33,709 'cause he was winning every week. It was just like, "Jeez, man." 1148 00:58:33,792 --> 00:58:36,333 What question do I get asked the most? 1149 00:58:36,417 --> 00:58:39,830 Uh... "Where's Kelly Slater?" 1150 00:58:39,166 --> 00:58:41,000 He became, like, overly famous. 1151 00:58:41,830 --> 00:58:43,410 He was dating Pam, he was on "Baywatch," 1152 00:58:43,125 --> 00:58:44,792 everybody in the world knew who he was. 1153 00:58:44,875 --> 00:58:47,000 People started wishing the other guy would win. 1154 00:58:47,830 --> 00:58:49,834 And Rob was the only one that really stood a chance. 1155 00:58:49,917 --> 00:58:52,000 You travel with Kelly, you play music with him, 1156 00:58:52,830 --> 00:58:53,917 how's it gonna be going against him? 1157 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,000 You gotta do what you gotta do to win. 1158 00:58:56,830 --> 00:58:58,875 When we're in the water, he's just another guy with a jersey on. 1159 00:58:58,959 --> 00:59:01,250 Massive crowd here at Huntington... 1160 00:59:01,333 --> 00:59:04,500 Two of the greatest small-wave surfers... 1161 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,830 He's back in, gets a little rebound off the... 1162 00:59:11,166 --> 00:59:12,750 Oh, big move! 1163 00:59:12,834 --> 00:59:15,792 Rob Machado takes off, he's got unbelievable speed, 1164 00:59:15,875 --> 00:59:17,750 ripping it... 1165 00:59:17,834 --> 00:59:20,208 Rob Machado having a great final here, 1166 00:59:20,291 --> 00:59:23,750 his final wave, big snap right there... 1167 00:59:25,291 --> 00:59:27,834 Great win for Rob Machado... 1168 00:59:27,917 --> 00:59:30,166 That was a pretty significant win for me. 1169 00:59:30,250 --> 00:59:31,917 Everybody just went nuts. 1170 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,125 Rob being mobbed as he comes to the sand 1171 00:59:34,208 --> 00:59:36,792 with this huge throng-- here they come. 1172 00:59:45,458 --> 00:59:48,667 Kelly was really super alpha, 1173 00:59:48,750 --> 00:59:50,417 super intense. 1174 00:59:52,208 --> 00:59:55,250 He did some small things that year that upset Rob, 1175 00:59:55,333 --> 00:59:57,625 where he took one of Rob's boards in France. 1176 00:59:57,709 --> 01:00:00,375 Maurice made me a couple of boards, and they felt terrible, both of 'em. 1177 01:00:00,458 --> 01:00:02,458 I went over to his house like, "These boards feel like shit, 1178 01:00:02,542 --> 01:00:04,583 I don't wanna ride 'em. You got anything else?" 1179 01:00:04,667 --> 01:00:07,667 And he goes, "I made three for Rob. They're downstairs." 1180 01:00:07,750 --> 01:00:09,500 He goes, "You can't ride three boards at once, 1181 01:00:09,583 --> 01:00:12,830 you might as well grab one of those and try it." 1182 01:00:12,166 --> 01:00:15,166 Rob New surfboards are pretty sacred. 1183 01:00:15,250 --> 01:00:17,792 I would have a really hard time 1184 01:00:17,875 --> 01:00:20,667 taking someone's brand-new surfboard that was made for them. 1185 01:00:20,750 --> 01:00:22,667 I don't care if there's ten of 'em. 1186 01:00:24,208 --> 01:00:25,750 It turned really weird, 1187 01:00:25,834 --> 01:00:28,375 I put my traction pad on, put my stickers on, 1188 01:00:28,458 --> 01:00:30,792 and Rob came over and he's like, 1189 01:00:30,875 --> 01:00:32,959 "Man, fuckin' take that shit off my board. 1190 01:00:33,410 --> 01:00:34,750 Give me that board back." 1191 01:00:34,834 --> 01:00:37,166 And he was kinda just being a dick. 1192 01:00:37,250 --> 01:00:39,291 I was being a dick. 1193 01:00:39,375 --> 01:00:41,834 I thought he was being a dick. 1194 01:00:41,917 --> 01:00:45,208 "That was mine, and you took it and rode it, 1195 01:00:45,291 --> 01:00:48,125 and then put your stickers on it and your traction pad. 1196 01:00:48,208 --> 01:00:50,417 And yeah, take it off. 1197 01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:54,667 You should be returning that thing to me brand-new, 1198 01:00:54,750 --> 01:00:56,417 how it was." 1199 01:00:56,500 --> 01:00:57,792 So I was like, "Fuck him. 1200 01:00:57,875 --> 01:01:00,500 Take the traction off your own board." 1201 01:01:00,583 --> 01:01:02,417 I wasn't doing this to be a dick. 1202 01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:05,500 I was just trying to be nice and take the stuff off, 1203 01:01:05,583 --> 01:01:09,830 but then afterwards I realized he was really being a jerk. 1204 01:01:09,166 --> 01:01:12,542 So then it kind of pissed me off. 1205 01:01:12,625 --> 01:01:16,410 After that, Rob and Kelly didn't talk for a while, 1206 01:01:16,125 --> 01:01:18,625 and it got pretty weird. 1207 01:01:18,709 --> 01:01:22,333 You could just feel the tension building up to the last contest. 1208 01:01:22,417 --> 01:01:24,667 The beach is divided between Kelly Slater 1209 01:01:24,750 --> 01:01:26,333 and Rob Machado... 1210 01:01:26,417 --> 01:01:28,667 ...these guys used to be the best of friends... 1211 01:01:28,750 --> 01:01:31,917 We were going into the Pipeline Masters in Hawaii, 1212 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,333 and Sunny Garcia, from Hawaii, 1213 01:01:34,417 --> 01:01:36,208 has a commanding lead. 1214 01:01:36,291 --> 01:01:38,417 They need me to do shitty, which isn't gonna happen, 1215 01:01:38,500 --> 01:01:40,917 and they need to do extremely well, 1216 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,875 which is gonna be hard. 1217 01:01:42,959 --> 01:01:44,875 So I'm pretty confident. 1218 01:01:44,959 --> 01:01:48,333 Sunny was gonna bring home the first Hawaiian world title. 1219 01:01:49,583 --> 01:01:52,830 So many people were pulling for Sunny. 1220 01:01:52,166 --> 01:01:54,000 And Occy felt that stress. 1221 01:01:54,830 --> 01:01:55,542 It was for his world title, 1222 01:01:55,625 --> 01:01:57,208 he just had to win that heat. 1223 01:01:57,291 --> 01:01:59,667 I was getting threats from a few Hawaiians, 1224 01:01:59,750 --> 01:02:03,250 saying, "If you do win this heat, you might not be going home," 1225 01:02:03,333 --> 01:02:05,667 and stuff like that-- and it was quite scary. 1226 01:02:05,750 --> 01:02:08,125 Masters champ up against Hawaiian favorite... 1227 01:02:08,208 --> 01:02:10,208 But Sunny was having a shocker. 1228 01:02:10,291 --> 01:02:12,500 He broke his board, had to go to the beach to get another one. 1229 01:02:12,583 --> 01:02:15,625 And while that was happening, I'm sitting out there all by myself. 1230 01:02:15,709 --> 01:02:18,875 And a perfect wave came. And what do I do? I gotta go. 1231 01:02:18,959 --> 01:02:21,000 I can't not go. So I went. 1232 01:02:21,830 --> 01:02:24,125 I got a huge barrel, and spat out. 1233 01:02:25,625 --> 01:02:26,959 I'm like, "Oh, no." 1234 01:02:27,410 --> 01:02:29,458 Usually you'd be coming out claiming it, 1235 01:02:29,542 --> 01:02:31,375 but I'm coming out like, "Oh, no!" 1236 01:02:31,458 --> 01:02:33,250 Five minutes left, I need one more wave. 1237 01:02:33,333 --> 01:02:36,166 Poor Mark, he's like, "Take this wave! 1238 01:02:36,250 --> 01:02:37,834 Take any wave you want." 1239 01:02:39,709 --> 01:02:41,542 I couldn't make a wave, 1240 01:02:41,625 --> 01:02:44,208 and I knew right then I just lost the world title. 1241 01:02:44,291 --> 01:02:47,250 And Occy ends up winning the heat. 1242 01:02:47,333 --> 01:02:49,625 Sunny Garcia is out of the contest. 1243 01:02:49,709 --> 01:02:51,333 I don't believe what I just saw. 1244 01:02:51,417 --> 01:02:53,208 And it was like, "What just happened?" 1245 01:02:53,291 --> 01:02:56,333 The state of Hawaii has gone silent. 1246 01:03:02,333 --> 01:03:03,834 And I was like, "Wow, this is crazy." 1247 01:03:03,917 --> 01:03:06,333 It's almost like this big door just opened up. 1248 01:03:06,417 --> 01:03:08,125 Time to get up. 1249 01:03:08,208 --> 01:03:10,125 It's the morning of the quarterfinals. 1250 01:03:10,208 --> 01:03:13,417 - Are you ready to rock and roll? - Yes. 1251 01:03:13,500 --> 01:03:17,458 Of course, me and Kelly come up against each other in the semis. 1252 01:03:17,542 --> 01:03:19,583 Number one and two, Rob Machado and Kelly Slater. 1253 01:03:19,667 --> 01:03:21,834 Rob Machado, this guy's been on fire. 1254 01:03:21,917 --> 01:03:24,458 Both of 'em can do any maneuver you can dream of... 1255 01:03:24,542 --> 01:03:27,208 The public knows Rob as being a cruisy, 1256 01:03:27,291 --> 01:03:28,709 mellow, stylish guy. 1257 01:03:28,792 --> 01:03:30,709 "Oh, Rob's like Zen master." 1258 01:03:30,792 --> 01:03:32,375 Not when we were growing up. 1259 01:03:32,458 --> 01:03:35,625 He was as cutthroat as any of us. 1260 01:03:35,709 --> 01:03:37,458 Rob and I are just really competitive 1261 01:03:37,542 --> 01:03:39,250 and I want to beat him equally as bad. 1262 01:03:39,333 --> 01:03:41,291 By Rob making the semifinal, 1263 01:03:41,375 --> 01:03:43,291 he moved into first place, he passed Sunny. 1264 01:03:43,375 --> 01:03:46,208 And I had to beat Rob, and then win the final. 1265 01:03:46,291 --> 01:03:48,250 Kelly had to win the final. 1266 01:03:48,333 --> 01:03:52,375 But if I beat Kelly, I win the world title. 1267 01:03:53,625 --> 01:03:54,875 ...best season to date 1268 01:03:54,959 --> 01:03:56,875 now coming to a head here today 1269 01:03:56,959 --> 01:03:58,709 up against Kelly Slater. 1270 01:04:00,834 --> 01:04:02,375 This one cloud blew through, 1271 01:04:02,458 --> 01:04:04,750 and it was just blue sky all of a sudden. 1272 01:04:06,830 --> 01:04:09,000 The waves got really, really good. 1273 01:04:11,250 --> 01:04:15,417 Back then it was your best three waves in 30 minutes. 1274 01:04:17,583 --> 01:04:19,667 And I took up on a left... 1275 01:04:22,125 --> 01:04:23,709 I got a 10. 1276 01:04:23,792 --> 01:04:25,458 Now Slater's gonna answer... 1277 01:04:25,542 --> 01:04:27,667 And then Kelly got really deep. 1278 01:04:29,250 --> 01:04:30,834 Kelly got a 10. 1279 01:04:30,917 --> 01:04:33,500 And now it's Rob's turn! 1280 01:04:33,583 --> 01:04:36,750 I mean, up until that point, 1281 01:04:36,834 --> 01:04:40,959 between us both, it was the highest-scoring heat 1282 01:04:41,410 --> 01:04:43,000 in the history of pro surfing. 1283 01:04:43,830 --> 01:04:46,625 This is a barrel-fest like nothing I've ever seen. 1284 01:04:46,709 --> 01:04:48,583 And in these conditions, they're the two best 1285 01:04:48,667 --> 01:04:51,375 we could ever ask for, Rob Machado and Kelly Slater. 1286 01:04:51,458 --> 01:04:53,750 It came down to the end of the heat. 1287 01:04:53,834 --> 01:04:57,000 Kelly got a perfect left, spit out a tube, 1288 01:04:57,830 --> 01:04:58,542 did this big roundhouse. 1289 01:04:58,625 --> 01:05:00,667 And I hear the crowd go crazy. 1290 01:05:00,750 --> 01:05:02,625 And there's another one, 1291 01:05:02,709 --> 01:05:05,333 just a perfect 10-foot A-frame. 1292 01:05:05,417 --> 01:05:07,375 I took off on the thing, 1293 01:05:07,458 --> 01:05:09,792 and I became like mesmerized. 1294 01:05:14,375 --> 01:05:20,830 And I was just in this... bright blue cavern. 1295 01:05:27,208 --> 01:05:29,834 I come out, and there's Kelly 1296 01:05:29,917 --> 01:05:32,830 with his arms up, you know? 1297 01:05:32,166 --> 01:05:34,000 And, uh... 1298 01:05:36,417 --> 01:05:38,917 ...I did kinda like this half-cut back 1299 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,166 and almost fell, and then we high-fived. 1300 01:05:52,208 --> 01:05:55,830 I see Rob flying out of the barrel, 1301 01:05:55,166 --> 01:05:58,830 and instead of kicking out to get priority, 1302 01:05:58,166 --> 01:05:59,542 and he would have won, 1303 01:05:59,625 --> 01:06:03,458 just goes that extra further and high-fives Kelly. 1304 01:06:03,542 --> 01:06:05,291 And maybe it was Kelly doing that, 1305 01:06:05,375 --> 01:06:08,458 because he's there going, "Please high-five me, 1306 01:06:08,542 --> 01:06:10,166 and then I'm gonna get priority." 1307 01:06:10,250 --> 01:06:12,458 And the way Kelly thinks, he was probably thinking that. 1308 01:06:12,542 --> 01:06:15,125 For sure. That wasn't by accident. 1309 01:06:15,208 --> 01:06:16,834 Kelly doesn't do shit by accident. 1310 01:06:16,917 --> 01:06:19,875 You don't become one of the most dominant surfers 1311 01:06:19,959 --> 01:06:22,709 on the planet by giving people high-fives. 1312 01:06:22,792 --> 01:06:25,959 I've never seen him ever do that with anyone else. 1313 01:06:26,410 --> 01:06:28,709 I think a lot of people read into that too much. 1314 01:06:28,792 --> 01:06:30,333 I think that was totally genuine, 1315 01:06:30,417 --> 01:06:32,208 like his friend got spit out of a barrel, 1316 01:06:32,291 --> 01:06:33,917 and they threw a high-five at each other. 1317 01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,166 If you break down the actual high-five, 1318 01:06:37,250 --> 01:06:40,000 Kelly's thinking, "Yes. I still have this heat." 1319 01:06:40,830 --> 01:06:42,792 I guarantee he calculated the numbers. 1320 01:06:42,875 --> 01:06:46,208 And Rob wasted a bit of time there, definitely a mistake, 1321 01:06:46,291 --> 01:06:49,375 by giving the casual high-five and then paddle back out, 1322 01:06:49,458 --> 01:06:52,667 and Kelly got the priority, meaning he got the next wave. 1323 01:06:54,417 --> 01:06:57,000 I fuckin' would've ran Kelly's fuckin' ass over. 1324 01:06:57,830 --> 01:06:59,125 I would've just got him on interference-- 1325 01:06:59,208 --> 01:07:01,125 even if I just clipped him and fell. 1326 01:07:01,208 --> 01:07:03,410 You're fuckin' out there to win the world title. 1327 01:07:03,125 --> 01:07:05,250 Fuckin' high-five you when you got on the beach 1328 01:07:05,333 --> 01:07:07,458 after I fuckin' take you down. 1329 01:07:07,542 --> 01:07:09,375 Like, to me, that just-- 1330 01:07:09,458 --> 01:07:11,583 I'm a competitor, 1331 01:07:11,667 --> 01:07:13,792 and I know that Kelly's the same way. 1332 01:07:13,875 --> 01:07:19,834 He is the most calculated, smartest, driven surfer ever. 1333 01:07:19,917 --> 01:07:21,875 There's a reason for everything. 1334 01:07:21,959 --> 01:07:24,792 I would've just run him over, 'cause he was right in the way. 1335 01:07:24,875 --> 01:07:28,542 But Rob fell into the trap, and Kelly won the world title-- 1336 01:07:28,625 --> 01:07:30,410 yet again. 1337 01:07:45,959 --> 01:07:48,709 Am I gonna run someone over? No. 1338 01:07:48,792 --> 01:07:51,583 That's just not in my DNA. 1339 01:07:51,667 --> 01:07:54,166 Maybe that was the downfall for me. 1340 01:07:54,250 --> 01:07:55,750 You know, I wasn't-- 1341 01:07:55,834 --> 01:07:59,709 I didn't have that cutthroat mentality. 1342 01:07:59,792 --> 01:08:02,166 Was the high-five 1343 01:08:02,250 --> 01:08:06,250 a tactical maneuver on Kelly's part? 1344 01:08:08,410 --> 01:08:10,458 Kelly is so calculated. 1345 01:08:10,542 --> 01:08:14,333 Like, he knew exactly what he needed to do. 1346 01:08:14,417 --> 01:08:18,830 I don't know. I'd love to hear his side of the story. 1347 01:08:18,166 --> 01:08:20,410 It bums me out more than anything 1348 01:08:20,125 --> 01:08:21,917 to hear that from people who are my friends. 1349 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,875 I think it's just outrageous. I never thought of that at all. 1350 01:08:25,959 --> 01:08:29,417 And in my memories of thinking about the heat, 1351 01:08:29,500 --> 01:08:32,830 there was never any intention whatsoever 1352 01:08:32,166 --> 01:08:35,410 other than just to be stoked and express that right then. 1353 01:08:35,125 --> 01:08:37,333 And I don't think it would have mattered so much anyways, 1354 01:08:37,417 --> 01:08:39,959 'cause I was trying to go right on every wave and Rob was trying to go left, 1355 01:08:40,410 --> 01:08:42,667 so the priority wouldn't even have mattered. 1356 01:08:45,830 --> 01:08:47,125 A little later, we took like 30 friends out to dinner, 1357 01:08:47,208 --> 01:08:49,125 we were all celebrating, and the hard thing was, 1358 01:08:49,208 --> 01:08:51,792 Rob was at the same restaurant with his family, 1359 01:08:51,875 --> 01:08:54,291 and they were all really somber. 1360 01:08:54,375 --> 01:08:57,208 It was a weird predicament. 1361 01:09:01,410 --> 01:09:03,709 That marked the beginning of some dark years. 1362 01:09:11,542 --> 01:09:15,410 It was the morning of February 13th. 1363 01:09:15,125 --> 01:09:17,583 Todd was out in the yard getting ready to go surfing, 1364 01:09:17,667 --> 01:09:19,709 and I thought he had left. 1365 01:09:19,792 --> 01:09:21,542 Then I heard something, 1366 01:09:21,625 --> 01:09:25,166 and I peeked out the door down the hallway 1367 01:09:25,250 --> 01:09:27,959 and I saw him... standing there. 1368 01:09:28,410 --> 01:09:29,875 And he was just standing there. 1369 01:09:31,458 --> 01:09:35,625 He just said, "I love you," and I said, "I love you," 1370 01:09:35,709 --> 01:09:38,166 and there's a part of me 1371 01:09:38,250 --> 01:09:41,792 that almost felt like he knew something. 1372 01:09:41,875 --> 01:09:45,834 I don't know, it was just the look on his face that day, I'll never forget. 1373 01:09:45,917 --> 01:09:47,583 I can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday, 1374 01:09:47,667 --> 01:09:49,834 but I will never forget the look on his face that morning. 1375 01:10:03,875 --> 01:10:06,500 The call came in, three surfers in distress... 1376 01:10:06,583 --> 01:10:10,166 Rescue crew pulled 27-year-old Todd Chesser 1377 01:10:10,250 --> 01:10:12,667 from the water just south of Waimea Bay. 1378 01:10:12,750 --> 01:10:14,875 Lifeguards found Todd's body after a 40-minute search. 1379 01:10:14,959 --> 01:10:16,875 The shore break at Waimea was critical at that time, 1380 01:10:16,959 --> 01:10:18,542 60-foot faces. 1381 01:10:18,625 --> 01:10:20,410 We were trying to give him CPR, 1382 01:10:20,125 --> 01:10:22,410 but there was too much water. 1383 01:10:22,125 --> 01:10:24,834 Safety officials closed all North Shore beaches. 1384 01:10:24,917 --> 01:10:27,542 ...was set to he married to Janet Rollins on August 2nd. 1385 01:10:27,625 --> 01:10:31,208 Come on, come on! 1386 01:10:37,959 --> 01:10:41,208 I got a call from this girl at work, 1387 01:10:41,291 --> 01:10:44,542 saying that my son was in trouble. 1388 01:10:44,625 --> 01:10:46,750 I jumped in my car and was praying, 1389 01:10:46,834 --> 01:10:50,125 saying, "Don't let this happen, don't let this be real." 1390 01:10:51,166 --> 01:10:53,410 So, yeah, 1391 01:10:53,125 --> 01:10:55,830 I went to the hospital, 1392 01:10:55,166 --> 01:10:57,417 and all the friends were out there, 1393 01:10:57,500 --> 01:10:59,792 all the friends were standing there. 1394 01:10:59,875 --> 01:11:02,667 And then... 1395 01:11:02,750 --> 01:11:07,417 the doctor told me, "We think your son passed away 1396 01:11:07,500 --> 01:11:09,542 before the ambulance came." 1397 01:11:09,625 --> 01:11:12,500 And I said to the doctor, 1398 01:11:12,583 --> 01:11:16,250 "Well, that must be really hard for you to tell people this, 1399 01:11:16,333 --> 01:11:18,500 that happened to their loved one, 1400 01:11:18,583 --> 01:11:19,959 it must be really hard for you." 1401 01:11:20,410 --> 01:11:22,625 I was feeling that compassion for that person 1402 01:11:22,709 --> 01:11:25,417 and trying not to think about myself. 1403 01:11:25,500 --> 01:11:28,834 But yeah, it was the worst day of my life. 1404 01:11:51,125 --> 01:11:54,709 I remember just looking at grown men just bawling. 1405 01:11:59,917 --> 01:12:01,959 Rob Holy shit. 1406 01:12:02,410 --> 01:12:04,208 Todd's... gone. 1407 01:12:06,750 --> 01:12:10,500 It was just like losing a family member. 1408 01:12:10,583 --> 01:12:12,959 He was the unkillable, 1409 01:12:13,410 --> 01:12:16,375 unfadeable, unscareable dude. 1410 01:12:16,458 --> 01:12:18,625 You can't kill him. 1411 01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:21,333 Certain guys just couldn't be taken down. 1412 01:12:21,417 --> 01:12:25,208 It was like... a giant was gone. 1413 01:12:25,291 --> 01:12:29,830 At first, it didn't-- it didn't make sense. 1414 01:12:29,166 --> 01:12:32,830 It didn't even really register. 1415 01:12:32,166 --> 01:12:36,830 And then... it just hit me, 1416 01:12:36,166 --> 01:12:40,750 like someone had taken a baseball bat... 1417 01:12:40,834 --> 01:12:43,500 and just swung it at my stomach 1418 01:12:43,583 --> 01:12:45,417 as hard as they could, 1419 01:12:45,500 --> 01:12:47,542 and wouldn't stop. 1420 01:12:50,830 --> 01:12:54,291 Todd was like... a mentor for all us younger guys. 1421 01:12:54,375 --> 01:12:56,291 He was an incredible guy. 1422 01:12:56,375 --> 01:12:59,410 I just wanna say, "Cheese, we'll miss you." 1423 01:12:59,125 --> 01:13:00,750 At his funeral, I'm sitting 1424 01:13:00,834 --> 01:13:02,917 next to his fiancée and all these people, 1425 01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:07,166 and I just remember going, "Fuck, this is just too much. This is too much." 1426 01:13:07,250 --> 01:13:12,792 Everyone here was who we wanted to be at our wedding. 1427 01:13:15,208 --> 01:13:19,667 I mean-- Fuck. It's hard, man. 1428 01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:23,830 I was so worried about Janet, I was so worried about Jeannie. 1429 01:13:25,500 --> 01:13:29,410 I almost felt guilty for being so sad, 1430 01:13:29,125 --> 01:13:30,917 because... 1431 01:13:33,458 --> 01:13:36,875 ...she had lost so much already in her life, ya know, 1432 01:13:36,959 --> 01:13:39,375 with Todd's dad passing away. 1433 01:13:39,458 --> 01:13:41,375 And Todd was like her everything. 1434 01:13:41,458 --> 01:13:45,000 It just felt like too much to have to deal with for her. 1435 01:13:47,625 --> 01:13:51,583 When I saw what she was going through... 1436 01:13:51,667 --> 01:13:53,750 I realized what I was supposed to do, 1437 01:13:53,834 --> 01:13:56,000 and it was: be there for her. 1438 01:13:56,830 --> 01:13:59,125 And I told my mom, "I'm going to Fiji in six days. 1439 01:13:59,208 --> 01:14:01,291 I'm gonna take her." 1440 01:14:03,500 --> 01:14:05,333 We stayed in a little hut. 1441 01:14:05,417 --> 01:14:07,830 And she just would cry all night 1442 01:14:07,166 --> 01:14:11,500 and she just kept yelling at me, "Why? Why is this happening?" 1443 01:14:11,583 --> 01:14:13,583 But I didn't know what to say. 1444 01:14:17,417 --> 01:14:20,709 On that trip, she brought Todd's last board. 1445 01:14:20,792 --> 01:14:23,875 And one day, we paddle out to a place called Restaurants. 1446 01:14:23,959 --> 01:14:26,410 It was completely flat. 1447 01:14:26,125 --> 01:14:27,500 And then, out of nowhere, 1448 01:14:27,583 --> 01:14:29,583 a 4-foot wave comin' off the reef. 1449 01:14:29,667 --> 01:14:32,125 She catches it, gets barreled on his board-- she rips-- 1450 01:14:32,208 --> 01:14:34,458 going down the line-- whoo! I get the next one. 1451 01:14:34,542 --> 01:14:36,709 We're flying. She's screaming at me, I'm screaming at her. 1452 01:14:36,792 --> 01:14:38,792 We surfed for an hour and a half. 1453 01:14:38,875 --> 01:14:42,417 We come to the beach, and everybody that was on the island was watching. 1454 01:14:42,500 --> 01:14:44,959 People came in from Cloud Break, and I go, "Was it bombing?" 1455 01:14:45,410 --> 01:14:46,542 They're all, "It was flat." 1456 01:14:46,625 --> 01:14:49,250 It gives me chicken skin, because if you surf, 1457 01:14:49,333 --> 01:14:50,750 you know how rare that was. 1458 01:14:50,834 --> 01:14:52,291 And she was on his board, 1459 01:14:52,375 --> 01:14:55,542 and I swear it was like he was saying "bye." 1460 01:14:55,625 --> 01:14:59,709 ♪ Look for me in the tides ♪ 1461 01:14:59,792 --> 01:15:01,834 ♪ And it's all right ♪ 1462 01:15:01,917 --> 01:15:03,667 She didn't sleep for seven nights. 1463 01:15:03,750 --> 01:15:07,500 That night was the only night she slept. The only night. 1464 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:12,375 That day, Jeannie got a goodbye hug from her son. 1465 01:15:12,458 --> 01:15:15,834 It was just one of the most special moments of my life. 1466 01:15:18,208 --> 01:15:22,125 ♪ Set me free, in the tides ♪ 1467 01:15:22,208 --> 01:15:25,417 ♪ And fade away... ♪ 1468 01:15:27,208 --> 01:15:29,166 I'll always be thankful to Benji 1469 01:15:29,250 --> 01:15:30,625 for taking me on that trip, 1470 01:15:30,709 --> 01:15:33,542 because it was the thing that I needed to heal. 1471 01:15:35,667 --> 01:15:39,834 But Benji had a really tough time for a while after that. 1472 01:15:41,583 --> 01:15:44,208 After Chesser passed away, 1473 01:15:44,291 --> 01:15:46,333 I hated surfing. 1474 01:15:47,375 --> 01:15:49,583 It was tough. 1475 01:15:49,667 --> 01:15:50,875 So... 1476 01:15:52,625 --> 01:15:54,250 I got into drinking more. 1477 01:15:54,333 --> 01:15:57,410 Tons of cocaine and ecstasy was our thing, 1478 01:15:57,125 --> 01:16:01,125 but every time I woke up, I realized he was still gone. 1479 01:16:01,208 --> 01:16:05,458 I was definitely depressed, I was suicidal... 1480 01:16:05,542 --> 01:16:09,830 so I checked into this place called Inpatient whatever. 1481 01:16:09,166 --> 01:16:11,792 There was all these people that were on smack, heroin, 1482 01:16:11,875 --> 01:16:14,291 all this stuff, I just needed to talk to people, 1483 01:16:14,375 --> 01:16:16,625 I needed help, like, I wanted answers. 1484 01:16:19,959 --> 01:16:24,208 Men have the hardest time with feelings and emotion, 1485 01:16:24,291 --> 01:16:27,125 a lot of macho, lot of ego, 1486 01:16:27,208 --> 01:16:30,834 so you never really go, "Let's talk about this." 1487 01:16:35,417 --> 01:16:37,830 In our group of friends, 1488 01:16:37,166 --> 01:16:39,250 I don't know if we ever actually sat around and said, 1489 01:16:39,333 --> 01:16:41,709 "Hey, man, how ya doin' with that?" 1490 01:16:41,792 --> 01:16:43,709 Shut up. 1491 01:16:43,792 --> 01:16:45,500 It was just something I wanted to forget. 1492 01:16:45,583 --> 01:16:47,333 And I think that goes for a lot of us. 1493 01:16:50,542 --> 01:16:54,709 We felt like Todd had been taken from us personally. 1494 01:16:54,792 --> 01:16:58,583 Not just our group, but us personally. 1495 01:16:58,667 --> 01:17:01,583 I felt like he had been taken from me. 1496 01:17:01,667 --> 01:17:03,458 My way of dealing with it was, 1497 01:17:03,542 --> 01:17:06,125 I just felt more comfortable by myself. 1498 01:17:07,750 --> 01:17:10,417 I just didn't want to talk about it anymore. 1499 01:17:10,500 --> 01:17:13,208 Didn't want to think about it anymore. 1500 01:17:15,542 --> 01:17:18,458 If we would've sat down and just talked it out, 1501 01:17:18,542 --> 01:17:21,875 it would've helped a lot of us process it better. 1502 01:17:21,959 --> 01:17:26,959 We were kind of worried about showing weakness. 1503 01:17:27,410 --> 01:17:29,792 You don't want to show your competitor weakness. 1504 01:17:33,875 --> 01:17:35,834 There was underlying tensions from competing 1505 01:17:35,917 --> 01:17:37,625 on the world tour against each other, 1506 01:17:37,709 --> 01:17:40,000 and people were starting companies 1507 01:17:40,830 --> 01:17:42,125 that didn't involve everybody. 1508 01:17:42,208 --> 01:17:46,250 We were all angry and looking for someone to blame. 1509 01:17:46,333 --> 01:17:51,375 It was the start of a change from "it's all fun and games" 1510 01:17:51,458 --> 01:17:53,667 to it all getting serious. 1511 01:17:56,792 --> 01:17:58,834 Money started coming into play, 1512 01:17:58,917 --> 01:18:01,000 managers came into play during this time. 1513 01:18:01,830 --> 01:18:03,667 I had many arguments with Kelly's manager 1514 01:18:03,750 --> 01:18:06,917 because he wanted money to use him in my movies. 1515 01:18:08,667 --> 01:18:12,250 Soon after, Kelly's manager was also Rob's manager 1516 01:18:12,333 --> 01:18:14,333 and Kalani's manager. 1517 01:18:14,417 --> 01:18:17,750 And that's when I said, "Fine, I'm not gonna shoot 'em." 1518 01:18:21,208 --> 01:18:24,000 In February of 1997, Todd Chesser died, 1519 01:18:24,830 --> 01:18:28,208 and then that same year was the last time we made a film together. 1520 01:18:32,542 --> 01:18:35,375 I remember Taylor telling us that he was gonna be done, 1521 01:18:35,458 --> 01:18:36,709 and just a feeling of sadness, 1522 01:18:36,792 --> 01:18:38,875 like we were part of something really special 1523 01:18:38,959 --> 01:18:40,917 and it was the end of an era. 1524 01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:44,208 The catalyst that brought us together-- 1525 01:18:44,291 --> 01:18:46,875 filming with Taylor-- that was gone. 1526 01:18:46,959 --> 01:18:49,410 And really, people were just 1527 01:18:49,125 --> 01:18:51,750 trying to take care of themselves, 1528 01:18:51,834 --> 01:18:53,875 looking after their own interests. 1529 01:18:53,959 --> 01:18:56,830 People can get pretty ruthless 1530 01:18:56,166 --> 01:18:59,583 when money's on the line, so I'm kinda putting the money out of my head. 1531 01:18:59,667 --> 01:19:01,834 Chesser would call you a sell-out 1532 01:19:01,917 --> 01:19:04,125 if you were becoming too business-headed. 1533 01:19:04,208 --> 01:19:07,410 He made sure that you were surfing for the right reasons 1534 01:19:07,125 --> 01:19:10,208 and you're part of the group for the right reasons. 1535 01:19:10,291 --> 01:19:12,875 He enjoyed all of us hanging out together 1536 01:19:12,959 --> 01:19:17,667 way more than making a dollar or being famous. 1537 01:19:17,750 --> 01:19:20,500 Todd definitely never let financial upside 1538 01:19:20,583 --> 01:19:22,834 influence our decision-making. 1539 01:19:24,830 --> 01:19:27,583 When Todd died, that was gone. 1540 01:19:27,667 --> 01:19:31,830 Soon afterwards, a lot of us started going our own ways. 1541 01:19:36,125 --> 01:19:37,750 At some point you grow up 1542 01:19:37,834 --> 01:19:40,830 and stop living at your friend's house in San Diego, 1543 01:19:40,166 --> 01:19:42,830 going to punk rock shows, ya know? 1544 01:19:42,166 --> 01:19:44,208 At some point you start to figure out, "Yeah, 1545 01:19:44,291 --> 01:19:46,458 we love all these guys, but my life's this thing, 1546 01:19:46,542 --> 01:19:48,667 and not everyone fits into this thing." 1547 01:19:50,500 --> 01:19:53,830 And for me, the competition shifted 1548 01:19:53,166 --> 01:19:56,917 to maybe more important than camaraderie in those years. 1549 01:19:59,208 --> 01:20:02,959 And that was my way to focus my, I don't know, sadness 1550 01:20:03,410 --> 01:20:05,333 after Todd passed away. 1551 01:20:05,417 --> 01:20:08,830 Winning competitions wouldn't address the pain, 1552 01:20:08,166 --> 01:20:11,583 it would just fuel my direction. 1553 01:20:11,667 --> 01:20:14,917 It gave me a sense of pride in myself. 1554 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,542 People noticing you, and-- 1555 01:20:17,625 --> 01:20:19,000 It makes you feel good, 1556 01:20:19,830 --> 01:20:21,542 however shallow or deep that could be. 1557 01:20:23,542 --> 01:20:26,458 So I went on this absolute tear, competitively. 1558 01:20:26,542 --> 01:20:30,792 I thought in my head, "There's no reason I can't win every contest." 1559 01:20:30,875 --> 01:20:32,625 I wanted it all, ya know? 1560 01:20:32,709 --> 01:20:35,208 I just wanted to win absolutely everything. 1561 01:20:46,709 --> 01:20:49,125 - Whoo! Whoo! - Williams: For Kelly, 1562 01:20:49,208 --> 01:20:50,959 whenever he had a breakup 1563 01:20:51,410 --> 01:20:52,709 or problems with family or whatever, 1564 01:20:52,792 --> 01:20:54,208 he was able to channel that 1565 01:20:54,291 --> 01:20:57,500 into annihilating people on the water. 1566 01:21:04,709 --> 01:21:07,750 We were all competitive, but if you're gonna be a world champion, 1567 01:21:07,834 --> 01:21:10,250 you gotta be a frickin' animal. 1568 01:21:13,667 --> 01:21:15,917 Rob Kelly had this idea in his mind 1569 01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,709 that he wanted to break Mark Richards' record and win five in a row. 1570 01:21:19,792 --> 01:21:23,375 And we were the only ones that were gonna get in his way. 1571 01:21:26,830 --> 01:21:29,166 Competing against your friend, and holding 'em off waves 1572 01:21:29,250 --> 01:21:31,830 or keeping priority, 1573 01:21:31,166 --> 01:21:35,750 to me, it's against the art of surfing. 1574 01:21:35,834 --> 01:21:38,709 Deep down inside, I probably knew I wasn't ruthless enough 1575 01:21:38,792 --> 01:21:41,375 to win a world title, because I'm not comfortable 1576 01:21:41,458 --> 01:21:44,875 with doing the dirty work that needs to be done. 1577 01:21:44,959 --> 01:21:47,458 You bang boards, you try and push each other out of position, 1578 01:21:47,542 --> 01:21:49,625 every now and again you get the elbow in the head. 1579 01:21:49,709 --> 01:21:51,291 That's what we call "hassling." 1580 01:21:51,375 --> 01:21:53,830 There's a lot of guys who are amazing surfers, 1581 01:21:53,166 --> 01:21:54,750 but such mellow characters that they couldn't 1582 01:21:54,834 --> 01:21:56,417 bring themselves to do that, 1583 01:21:56,500 --> 01:21:58,410 and so their careers are very short. 1584 01:22:00,208 --> 01:22:03,291 You have to be a bit of an asshole to win. 1585 01:22:03,375 --> 01:22:06,250 And I didn't have that killer instinct in that way. 1586 01:22:06,333 --> 01:22:09,875 The last couple years on tour I was like, "What am I doing?" 1587 01:22:09,959 --> 01:22:14,834 I was pretty quick to realize that this isn't for me anymore. 1588 01:22:14,917 --> 01:22:16,583 When I was in heats, 1589 01:22:16,667 --> 01:22:18,667 I knew that I should have been achieving more. 1590 01:22:18,750 --> 01:22:21,417 I was constantly blaming the judges for shitty results, 1591 01:22:21,500 --> 01:22:24,875 and then all of a sudden breaking my foot, it was like, "Pfft." 1592 01:22:24,959 --> 01:22:27,000 Just "I'm outta here." 1593 01:22:28,834 --> 01:22:31,542 The competitive thing was a real cutthroat business. 1594 01:22:31,625 --> 01:22:34,667 You're only as good as your rating at the end of the year. 1595 01:22:34,750 --> 01:22:39,417 I had to learn to be able to sit on people with priority, and use tactics. 1596 01:22:41,834 --> 01:22:45,208 And I felt like, "This is not where I'm supposed to be." 1597 01:22:47,291 --> 01:22:49,333 When I was on tour, everybody's talking, 1598 01:22:49,417 --> 01:22:51,458 "You're the next Kelly Slater" and shit like that, 1599 01:22:51,542 --> 01:22:54,834 and I was like, "I'm not that guy." 1600 01:22:54,917 --> 01:22:57,250 I wasn't ready to go to those dark places 1601 01:22:57,333 --> 01:22:59,625 to win that world championship. 1602 01:22:59,709 --> 01:23:01,542 Nobody wants it like Kelly. 1603 01:23:01,625 --> 01:23:04,917 He's such a gnarly, gnarly savage. 1604 01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:06,750 This controversial play by Slater 1605 01:23:06,834 --> 01:23:09,583 forced an interference penalty on Beschen, costing him... 1606 01:23:09,667 --> 01:23:11,709 Kelly paddles up over Shane's back... 1607 01:23:11,792 --> 01:23:14,458 Surfers don't like it, but it is allowed. 1608 01:23:14,542 --> 01:23:16,458 Almost like cheating within the rules. 1609 01:23:16,542 --> 01:23:19,000 I despise people that do that kind of stuff. 1610 01:23:19,830 --> 01:23:21,959 After the heat with Kelly at the Pipe Masters in '95, 1611 01:23:22,410 --> 01:23:26,410 I started to struggle with being as competitive. 1612 01:23:26,125 --> 01:23:27,917 I lost motivation, 1613 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,417 and just got really salty at the whole tour. 1614 01:23:31,500 --> 01:23:34,667 People got that vibe from me. 1615 01:23:34,750 --> 01:23:36,500 Then when I broke my hand, 1616 01:23:36,583 --> 01:23:40,830 all the surfers had this vote for the injury wild cards. 1617 01:23:40,166 --> 01:23:41,834 If you have a really bad injury 1618 01:23:41,917 --> 01:23:43,667 and you're able to compete during the year, 1619 01:23:43,750 --> 01:23:45,542 then you can apply for an injury wild card 1620 01:23:45,625 --> 01:23:47,667 to qualify for the next year on the tour. 1621 01:23:47,750 --> 01:23:49,834 So I was applying for an injury wild card, 1622 01:23:49,917 --> 01:23:51,959 Rob was applying for an injury wild card. 1623 01:23:52,410 --> 01:23:54,375 It's super-awkward, you go up and plead your case 1624 01:23:54,458 --> 01:23:56,500 to all the guys who are on the tour, 1625 01:23:56,583 --> 01:23:58,333 and then everybody votes. 1626 01:23:59,834 --> 01:24:04,208 Here we are, voting between Rob and Shane Dorian. 1627 01:24:04,291 --> 01:24:07,410 Two friends. But there's only one guy's gonna get it. 1628 01:24:07,125 --> 01:24:10,375 The grumblings around town were that Rob's over the tour. 1629 01:24:10,458 --> 01:24:12,917 He doesn't care about it anymore. 1630 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:15,834 So they voted for Shane. 1631 01:24:15,917 --> 01:24:17,875 Yeah. 1632 01:24:17,959 --> 01:24:19,625 I was done. 1633 01:24:19,709 --> 01:24:21,458 I'm off the tour. 1634 01:24:25,375 --> 01:24:28,830 Going through the transition of being a professional surfer 1635 01:24:28,166 --> 01:24:30,250 to what's your next chapter in life, 1636 01:24:30,333 --> 01:24:33,542 there's no books out there to tell you how to do it. 1637 01:24:33,625 --> 01:24:35,583 When it happened to me, 1638 01:24:35,667 --> 01:24:37,875 I went from a very busy life and busy schedule 1639 01:24:37,959 --> 01:24:41,830 to all of a sudden grinding to a halt and being at home 1640 01:24:41,166 --> 01:24:43,291 and just listening to the quiet. 1641 01:24:44,709 --> 01:24:47,410 It started to turn very dark, 1642 01:24:47,125 --> 01:24:48,750 and I became depressed. 1643 01:24:51,333 --> 01:24:53,125 After I quit the tour, 1644 01:24:53,208 --> 01:24:55,792 I end up working for a biotech company, 1645 01:24:55,875 --> 01:24:58,625 helping for marketing in trade shows. 1646 01:24:58,709 --> 01:25:02,166 Wearing a suit and tie and shit every day... 1647 01:25:02,250 --> 01:25:04,542 behind a desk. 1648 01:25:04,625 --> 01:25:06,750 So I was like, "This is heavy, like-- 1649 01:25:06,834 --> 01:25:09,458 like, "What am I doing?" 1650 01:25:11,333 --> 01:25:13,625 Rob After I was voted off the tour, 1651 01:25:13,709 --> 01:25:16,250 my sponsor at the time went bankrupt. 1652 01:25:16,333 --> 01:25:18,917 I thought it was the end of the world. 1653 01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:22,625 I'm not on tour, I don't have a sponsor. 1654 01:25:22,709 --> 01:25:24,792 Holy crap. What am I gonna do? 1655 01:25:32,834 --> 01:25:36,458 After Rob got off tour, 1656 01:25:36,542 --> 01:25:38,375 he was a broken man. 1657 01:25:38,458 --> 01:25:41,750 A couple years later he came to Bali 1658 01:25:41,834 --> 01:25:44,830 and lived in my house for six months, 1659 01:25:44,166 --> 01:25:45,834 being really negative. 1660 01:25:45,917 --> 01:25:49,583 And so we came up with a movie that we could do together 1661 01:25:49,667 --> 01:25:52,375 to help get him back in a positive zone. 1662 01:25:58,792 --> 01:26:02,125 These kids here play this game with rocks. 1663 01:26:02,208 --> 01:26:03,667 They throw one up in the air, 1664 01:26:03,750 --> 01:26:06,959 they pick up the other ones before it falls. 1665 01:26:08,625 --> 01:26:12,542 I'm not really sure how you win... 1666 01:26:12,625 --> 01:26:14,750 but maybe you don't. 1667 01:26:16,458 --> 01:26:19,125 Maybe you just play. 1668 01:26:19,208 --> 01:26:21,792 At the start of it, he was in a really bad place, 1669 01:26:21,875 --> 01:26:24,625 and at the end of it he was the old Rob again. 1670 01:26:29,291 --> 01:26:31,333 It was just like old times. 1671 01:26:31,417 --> 01:26:34,333 But now he was reinventing himself 1672 01:26:34,417 --> 01:26:35,875 and becoming a free surfer, 1673 01:26:35,959 --> 01:26:39,166 trying to make a living on just sponsor money 1674 01:26:39,250 --> 01:26:42,750 without the need to be competing on the world tour. 1675 01:26:42,834 --> 01:26:45,333 And "The Drifter" helped with his sponsorships 1676 01:26:45,417 --> 01:26:49,333 so that he could actually go on trips and make surf movies. 1677 01:26:49,417 --> 01:26:51,333 Taylor Steele's responsible 1678 01:26:51,417 --> 01:26:54,917 for this new phase of my life and my career. 1679 01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,291 I'm beyond grateful. 1680 01:26:58,375 --> 01:27:00,750 He revived me. 1681 01:27:03,208 --> 01:27:06,458 At the time, if you stopped being on the tour, 1682 01:27:06,542 --> 01:27:08,542 you vanished into thin air. 1683 01:27:08,625 --> 01:27:10,875 That was it for you. 1684 01:27:10,959 --> 01:27:14,830 Rob was the first person who ever left the tour 1685 01:27:14,166 --> 01:27:16,542 who had success immediately. 1686 01:27:16,625 --> 01:27:19,625 So I went to my sponsors and said, 1687 01:27:19,709 --> 01:27:22,667 "Rob's left the tour, and look at him." 1688 01:27:22,750 --> 01:27:25,875 And I quit the tour with the intention 1689 01:27:25,959 --> 01:27:27,667 to surf really big waves, 1690 01:27:27,750 --> 01:27:29,542 and there was definitely a part of that 1691 01:27:29,625 --> 01:27:32,375 that had to do with doing it for Todd, too. 1692 01:27:36,709 --> 01:27:40,830 On a subconscious level, I felt like I needed to surf big waves 1693 01:27:40,166 --> 01:27:42,583 so that Todd would be proud of me, even when he was gone. 1694 01:27:43,834 --> 01:27:46,625 Catch it, catch it! Whoo! 1695 01:27:46,709 --> 01:27:49,417 Whoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo! 1696 01:28:03,500 --> 01:28:07,500 Shane Dorian, the greatest big wave surfer of all time-- don't think you can debate that. 1697 01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:10,875 Shane has really focused on 1698 01:28:10,959 --> 01:28:13,375 the traditional big-wave riding approach, 1699 01:28:13,458 --> 01:28:16,830 and that's to paddle in with your bare arms 1700 01:28:16,166 --> 01:28:19,417 into a 60-foot wave and get barreled. 1701 01:28:19,500 --> 01:28:22,875 For some people, it's getting to the top of Everest-- 1702 01:28:22,959 --> 01:28:25,458 for me, it's big waves. 1703 01:28:25,542 --> 01:28:28,792 The ocean is throwing everything at you that it can, 1704 01:28:28,875 --> 01:28:31,125 and in that fleeting moment, you feel like 1705 01:28:31,208 --> 01:28:33,625 every single experience in your whole surfing life 1706 01:28:33,709 --> 01:28:36,959 comes together for you to ride that wave absolutely perfectly. 1707 01:28:37,410 --> 01:28:39,250 That's happened maybe three times in my life. 1708 01:28:39,333 --> 01:28:41,500 That's what keeps me coming back. 1709 01:28:43,250 --> 01:28:46,830 Rob leaving and having success definitely inspired me 1710 01:28:46,166 --> 01:28:48,410 to do what I really wanted to do. 1711 01:28:50,625 --> 01:28:52,417 Rob At that time in my life, 1712 01:28:52,500 --> 01:28:54,917 I was traveling around the world, surfing, 1713 01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:58,375 and I remember at one point I flew to Australia, 1714 01:28:58,458 --> 01:29:00,333 I walked into this restaurant, 1715 01:29:00,417 --> 01:29:03,500 and I looked over and Kelly was sitting in the corner by himself. 1716 01:29:03,583 --> 01:29:08,667 And he was pale, and he looked ten pounds lighter, 1717 01:29:08,750 --> 01:29:12,583 like in the darkest place. 1718 01:29:12,667 --> 01:29:15,625 The contest was meant to start the next day, 1719 01:29:15,709 --> 01:29:19,458 but I remember him telling me, "I don't want to surf right now." 1720 01:29:19,542 --> 01:29:22,125 And I was like... 1721 01:29:22,208 --> 01:29:24,500 "Don't. Go home... 1722 01:29:24,583 --> 01:29:27,250 and fix whatever you need to fix." 1723 01:29:30,750 --> 01:29:34,417 He withdrew from the contest and got on a plane and left. 1724 01:29:40,830 --> 01:29:43,166 Through my most competitive and passionate years, 1725 01:29:43,250 --> 01:29:45,792 I had these ultimate highs. 1726 01:29:45,875 --> 01:29:48,542 But there was no way to have those 1727 01:29:48,625 --> 01:29:52,959 without having these lows that other people can't even understand. 1728 01:29:55,375 --> 01:29:57,542 I went through a pretty gnarly depression 1729 01:29:57,625 --> 01:30:00,417 that I think a lot of my friends weren't aware of. 1730 01:30:02,625 --> 01:30:05,542 And then after I won my sixth world title 1731 01:30:05,625 --> 01:30:08,830 and beat Mark Richards' record, 1732 01:30:08,166 --> 01:30:11,792 I just literally broke down and started crying. 1733 01:30:13,959 --> 01:30:15,917 I had a real epiphany. 1734 01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,291 That competitiveness was taking a toll on me, 1735 01:30:18,375 --> 01:30:21,830 it was really sapping me of enjoying what I was doing 1736 01:30:21,166 --> 01:30:24,125 and detracting from my friendships. 1737 01:30:24,208 --> 01:30:29,875 And then my mother called me and said that my dad had cancer. 1738 01:30:29,959 --> 01:30:32,166 And that was the breaking point right there. 1739 01:30:32,250 --> 01:30:33,917 Love you too, Mom. 1740 01:30:34,959 --> 01:30:36,830 I had a few nights 1741 01:30:36,166 --> 01:30:37,625 I literally cried myself to sleep 1742 01:30:37,709 --> 01:30:40,667 because I was so angry and confused about my dad. 1743 01:30:43,375 --> 01:30:45,709 Like, why would my dad drink so much 1744 01:30:45,792 --> 01:30:47,834 and cheat on my mom so much? 1745 01:30:47,917 --> 01:30:50,458 And I don't think my father 1746 01:30:50,542 --> 01:30:53,959 came to one world tour event I ever surfed. 1747 01:30:54,410 --> 01:30:59,208 But then he came to Hawaii for the Pipe Masters when he was dying. 1748 01:30:59,291 --> 01:31:01,583 I remember surfing the finals, and he was crying. 1749 01:31:01,667 --> 01:31:03,250 I said, "What are you crying for?" 1750 01:31:03,333 --> 01:31:05,830 And he's just like, "Man, I'm so proud of you." 1751 01:31:05,166 --> 01:31:06,834 I'm like, "Sorry I didn't win. 1752 01:31:06,917 --> 01:31:08,458 I really wanted to win for you, Dad." 1753 01:31:08,542 --> 01:31:11,458 He's like, "No, you won. Don't worry about that. 1754 01:31:11,542 --> 01:31:13,542 I'm just so proud of you." 1755 01:31:16,375 --> 01:31:18,291 It was just tough, you know, 1756 01:31:18,375 --> 01:31:20,875 my dad's dying of cancer and... 1757 01:31:22,410 --> 01:31:27,166 uh... can barely take care of himself, 1758 01:31:27,250 --> 01:31:30,667 and Ross had said, "Come sit at the house, and..." 1759 01:31:31,834 --> 01:31:33,875 it's, uh... 1760 01:31:37,375 --> 01:31:41,166 I don't think I've ever shown him a real appreciation for that. 1761 01:31:44,667 --> 01:31:46,667 After his dad died, 1762 01:31:46,750 --> 01:31:48,667 it was quite beautiful 1763 01:31:48,750 --> 01:31:50,625 when Kelly reached out to a lot of us 1764 01:31:50,709 --> 01:31:53,834 and had real, sincere conversations with us all. 1765 01:31:55,375 --> 01:32:00,166 I had never seen him so stripped bare emotionally. 1766 01:32:02,458 --> 01:32:05,458 I remember Kelly and I got together-- 1767 01:32:05,542 --> 01:32:08,125 it was like a full therapy session. 1768 01:32:09,500 --> 01:32:12,410 We just talked about memories 1769 01:32:12,125 --> 01:32:14,417 and good times and... 1770 01:32:14,500 --> 01:32:19,834 it was so refreshing to be able to just be friends. 1771 01:32:23,830 --> 01:32:25,709 My father was super abusive. 1772 01:32:25,792 --> 01:32:28,667 That was the reason I went to rehab, a hundred percent. 1773 01:32:28,750 --> 01:32:30,583 A lot of people went the other way, 1774 01:32:30,667 --> 01:32:33,709 but Kelly stayed there for 30 days just to hang out with me. 1775 01:32:35,375 --> 01:32:37,542 Kelly worked on all his stuff 1776 01:32:37,625 --> 01:32:39,417 before I went through mine, 1777 01:32:39,500 --> 01:32:42,709 so when I went through mine, he took care of me. 1778 01:32:42,792 --> 01:32:46,000 We would have these talks for hours at night 1779 01:32:46,830 --> 01:32:50,208 about life, fathers-- "Why? Why am I feeling this?" 1780 01:32:50,291 --> 01:32:53,250 And Kelly taught me hanging onto animosity 1781 01:32:53,333 --> 01:32:57,458 is only ruining my life-- it's not ruining his life. 1782 01:32:57,542 --> 01:32:59,959 So I made amends with my dad and I stopped doing drugs, 1783 01:33:00,410 --> 01:33:02,208 all at once. 1784 01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:09,250 Every situation in your life, you have your pride and ego or you have love, 1785 01:33:09,333 --> 01:33:11,709 and if you choose this, it's always gonna be bad, 1786 01:33:11,792 --> 01:33:15,458 and if you choose this, it's always gonna be good. 1787 01:33:15,542 --> 01:33:18,917 I learned all that from my smartass fuckin' Slater friend. 1788 01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:23,625 And I couldn't-- I couldn't thank him enough. 1789 01:33:25,959 --> 01:33:29,458 Everyone in the world is fighting the same battle. 1790 01:33:29,542 --> 01:33:31,410 People are all suffering from 1791 01:33:31,125 --> 01:33:34,000 a lack of connecting with love with people around us. 1792 01:33:35,667 --> 01:33:37,542 Personally, I had to wake up to myself 1793 01:33:37,625 --> 01:33:39,625 and see that who I thought I was 1794 01:33:39,709 --> 01:33:42,250 maybe wasn't all I was cracked up to be. 1795 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,750 Kelly kind of did lose the plot a little bit, 1796 01:33:46,834 --> 01:33:49,375 but he came back in the biggest way ever. 1797 01:33:49,458 --> 01:33:51,792 It's pretty neat to see our clique, 1798 01:33:51,875 --> 01:33:54,208 how we bring people back from the dead. 1799 01:33:56,583 --> 01:33:59,000 When I was working for the biotech company, 1800 01:33:59,830 --> 01:34:01,583 it was just tearing me up inside. 1801 01:34:01,667 --> 01:34:06,291 I definitely fit a wetsuit vibe more than a suit-suit vibe. 1802 01:34:06,375 --> 01:34:10,625 And I was really lucky that Benji, Kelly, Rob, and Ross 1803 01:34:10,709 --> 01:34:13,125 helped me get all my sponsors back. 1804 01:34:13,208 --> 01:34:15,830 They made all the calls behind the scenes 1805 01:34:15,166 --> 01:34:16,583 that I only heard about afterwards. 1806 01:34:16,667 --> 01:34:19,542 "Hey, you know what? So-and-so called me. 1807 01:34:19,625 --> 01:34:22,410 You got some pretty heavy friends in high places." 1808 01:34:22,125 --> 01:34:24,125 I love Kalani, 1809 01:34:24,208 --> 01:34:28,125 so I might've had a conversation here or there. 1810 01:34:28,208 --> 01:34:30,792 I did. I helped him a little bit get in the door. 1811 01:34:30,875 --> 01:34:33,375 I mean, it's Kalani Robb. He's way better than me! 1812 01:34:33,458 --> 01:34:37,830 And I remember going, "You should have the pay check, not me. This is ridiculous." 1813 01:34:38,750 --> 01:34:41,375 I made a phone call, and I just said, 1814 01:34:41,458 --> 01:34:42,917 "Let's sponsor Kalani." 1815 01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:46,917 He's just too talented to be behind a desk. 1816 01:34:53,830 --> 01:34:57,250 As a kid, whatever I dreamed to be, 1817 01:34:57,333 --> 01:34:59,792 I've so outdone that. 1818 01:34:59,875 --> 01:35:01,917 And the only reason, truly, 1819 01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:03,542 why I'm still here doing anything 1820 01:35:03,625 --> 01:35:06,375 is 'cause of my friends. for sure. 1821 01:35:06,458 --> 01:35:08,250 I wouldn't be here without them. 1822 01:35:12,830 --> 01:35:14,834 A few guys should have turned out bad 1823 01:35:14,917 --> 01:35:17,410 considering the upbringing they had. 1824 01:35:17,125 --> 01:35:20,208 But the group, and having that support around, 1825 01:35:20,291 --> 01:35:22,917 guys saying, "Hey, don't do that shit," 1826 01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:24,458 kind of slapped some guys around 1827 01:35:24,542 --> 01:35:27,959 that could have gone the wrong way. 1828 01:35:28,410 --> 01:35:29,959 I mean, I was no exception. 1829 01:35:34,458 --> 01:35:37,333 I was on the world tour for 20 years... 1830 01:35:37,417 --> 01:35:39,583 and I could not 1831 01:35:39,667 --> 01:35:41,834 get over that hump of... 1832 01:35:41,917 --> 01:35:43,625 "I didn't win." 1833 01:35:49,917 --> 01:35:51,792 Taylor took himself so serious. 1834 01:35:51,875 --> 01:35:54,750 When he would not win world titles, 1835 01:35:54,834 --> 01:35:58,583 just to watch how it was eating away at the guy? 1836 01:35:58,667 --> 01:36:00,410 I couldn't be around him, 1837 01:36:00,125 --> 01:36:02,417 because I'm so opposite of Taylor. 1838 01:36:02,500 --> 01:36:03,959 And then one day 1839 01:36:04,410 --> 01:36:05,917 he finally just let it go. 1840 01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:09,333 "I'm never gonna win a world title. I'm done." 1841 01:36:09,417 --> 01:36:12,166 And then he can actually live. 1842 01:36:13,542 --> 01:36:15,417 My friends helped me realize 1843 01:36:15,500 --> 01:36:18,125 surfing doesn't define me as a person. 1844 01:36:19,709 --> 01:36:21,583 There's what you do, and then there's who you are, 1845 01:36:21,667 --> 01:36:25,750 and that's the difference that I didn't know back then. 1846 01:36:25,834 --> 01:36:29,500 I got a little bit of Benji blood injected in me. 1847 01:36:29,583 --> 01:36:32,500 And I got more happy just being who I am. 1848 01:36:41,750 --> 01:36:44,625 It's an emotional roller-coaster, this career. 1849 01:36:44,709 --> 01:36:46,709 You lose more than you win. 1850 01:36:46,792 --> 01:36:50,291 But it's all about the state of mind you're in. 1851 01:36:52,291 --> 01:36:54,417 'Cause I've seen guys win contests and not enjoy it, 1852 01:36:54,500 --> 01:36:56,792 and I've seen guys get third and were ecstatic. 1853 01:36:56,875 --> 01:36:58,542 So who won? 1854 01:36:58,625 --> 01:37:01,709 To me it's the one having the most fun. 1855 01:37:03,291 --> 01:37:06,000 And that what I loved about Todd. 1856 01:37:06,830 --> 01:37:08,458 It was about surfing 1857 01:37:08,542 --> 01:37:10,875 for the pure love of surfing. 1858 01:37:14,166 --> 01:37:17,291 People say that Taylor and I paved the way 1859 01:37:17,375 --> 01:37:19,583 for the professional free surfer. 1860 01:37:19,667 --> 01:37:24,834 But honestly, to me, Todd was the original free surfer. 1861 01:37:30,458 --> 01:37:32,333 When I look back at it now, 1862 01:37:32,417 --> 01:37:34,458 each one of us has kind of taken 1863 01:37:34,542 --> 01:37:37,417 a part of Todd and his legacy. 1864 01:37:48,834 --> 01:37:50,667 It was Shane becoming 1865 01:37:50,750 --> 01:37:54,208 the best big wave surfer in the world, 1866 01:37:54,291 --> 01:37:56,667 Kelly reconnecting the whole group, 1867 01:37:56,750 --> 01:38:00,542 being that catalyst that brought us all back together. 1868 01:38:00,625 --> 01:38:01,959 Christmas '14. 1869 01:38:02,410 --> 01:38:03,333 I was like, "I'd love 1870 01:38:03,417 --> 01:38:05,583 to do something for all my friends." 1871 01:38:05,667 --> 01:38:08,166 I just sent this message out, I just said, 1872 01:38:08,250 --> 01:38:10,834 "Even though we don't see each other, I love all you fuckers." 1873 01:38:10,917 --> 01:38:13,125 Ironically, Kelly's always been the one 1874 01:38:13,208 --> 01:38:15,410 that was crawling into his own shell, 1875 01:38:15,125 --> 01:38:17,291 but he was the one that created the text thread 1876 01:38:17,375 --> 01:38:19,834 that's kind of grown into this wonderful thing 1877 01:38:19,917 --> 01:38:22,917 where we all keep in touch daily. 1878 01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:24,500 It really shows 1879 01:38:24,583 --> 01:38:27,417 how much we crave to connect with each other. 1880 01:38:27,500 --> 01:38:29,959 So one day, I texted everybody, 1881 01:38:30,410 --> 01:38:32,875 I said, "Let's get a Momentum reunion together." 1882 01:38:32,959 --> 01:38:36,333 That was the first time we all got together 1883 01:38:36,417 --> 01:38:37,709 in so long. 1884 01:38:37,792 --> 01:38:40,830 Benji-o! 1885 01:38:40,166 --> 01:38:42,375 It was just like we never left. 1886 01:38:47,166 --> 01:38:50,583 Now that the competition's been taken out of our friendship, 1887 01:38:50,667 --> 01:38:53,500 it brought us back to being kids again. 1888 01:38:53,583 --> 01:38:56,917 It was like being there 25 years ago. 1889 01:38:59,208 --> 01:39:00,750 And I don't care if we have the same blood 1890 01:39:00,834 --> 01:39:02,875 running through our veins or not. 1891 01:39:02,959 --> 01:39:07,417 To me, friendship is the hidden blood. 1892 01:39:07,500 --> 01:39:10,830 It's the closeness that makes you 1893 01:39:10,166 --> 01:39:13,333 connected to another spirit. 1894 01:39:15,830 --> 01:39:17,625 As a whole, I look at my life... 1895 01:39:17,709 --> 01:39:19,667 I've been given so much, 1896 01:39:19,750 --> 01:39:22,959 and thankfully, I sought out the people 1897 01:39:23,410 --> 01:39:25,410 I wanted to be around 1898 01:39:25,125 --> 01:39:26,875 who were better people than I was. 1899 01:39:26,959 --> 01:39:30,125 And those people have rubbed off on me in a lot of ways, 1900 01:39:30,208 --> 01:39:32,458 and still do every day. 1901 01:39:32,542 --> 01:39:35,125 A lot of us have been friends since we were 12 years old, 1902 01:39:35,208 --> 01:39:39,125 so I can say my deepest, darkest whatever 1903 01:39:39,208 --> 01:39:41,375 and those guys don't even bat an eye. 1904 01:39:41,458 --> 01:39:43,792 It's just, those are my friends. 1905 01:39:45,583 --> 01:39:47,333 The reunion was insane. 1906 01:39:47,417 --> 01:39:50,375 We had so much fun teasing each other, laughing. 1907 01:39:50,458 --> 01:39:52,792 And surfing is just a bonus. 1908 01:41:01,830 --> 01:41:03,208 ♪ There's no combination or words I could put ♪ 1909 01:41:03,291 --> 01:41:05,208 ♪ On the back of a postcard ♪ 1910 01:41:05,291 --> 01:41:06,875 ♪ No song that I could sing ♪ 1911 01:41:06,959 --> 01:41:09,542 ♪ But I can try for your heart ♪ 1912 01:41:09,625 --> 01:41:13,250 ♪ Our dreams, and they are made out of real things ♪ 1913 01:41:13,333 --> 01:41:15,667 ♪ Like a shoebox of photographs ♪ 1914 01:41:15,750 --> 01:41:18,125 ♪ With sepia-toned loving ♪ 1915 01:41:18,208 --> 01:41:22,375 ♪ Love is the answer, at least for most of the questions in my heart ♪ 1916 01:41:22,458 --> 01:41:26,875 ♪ Why are we here and where do we go and how come it's so hard? ♪ 1917 01:41:26,959 --> 01:41:31,125 ♪ It's not always easy and sometimes life can be deceiving ♪ 1918 01:41:31,208 --> 01:41:36,000 ♪ I'll tell you one thing, it's always better when we're together ♪ 1919 01:41:36,830 --> 01:41:40,417 ♪ Hmm, it's always better when we're together ♪ 1920 01:41:40,500 --> 01:41:44,542 ♪ Yeah, we'll look at them stars when we're together ♪ 1921 01:41:44,625 --> 01:41:49,375 ♪ Well, it's always better when we're together ♪ 1922 01:41:49,458 --> 01:41:53,875 ♪ Yeah, it's always better when we're together ♪ 1923 01:41:57,875 --> 01:41:59,542 Here we are at Finals Day at the... 1924 01:41:59,625 --> 01:42:02,458 I wouldn't be surprised if almost 100% of the people... 1925 01:42:02,542 --> 01:42:05,000 They're the favorite in that event to win... 1926 01:42:08,917 --> 01:42:13,750 ♪ And all of these moments just might find their way into my dreams tonight ♪ 1927 01:42:13,834 --> 01:42:16,375 ♪ But I know that they'll be gone ♪ 1928 01:42:16,458 --> 01:42:20,792 ♪ When the morning light sings and brings new things ♪ 1929 01:42:20,875 --> 01:42:23,208 ♪ But tomorrow night you see ♪ 1930 01:42:23,291 --> 01:42:25,830 ♪ That they'll be gone too ♪ 1931 01:42:25,166 --> 01:42:27,410 ♪ Too many things I have to do ♪ 1932 01:42:27,125 --> 01:42:29,583 ♪ But if all of these dreams might find their way ♪ 1933 01:42:29,667 --> 01:42:31,792 ♪ Into my day-to-day scene ♪ 1934 01:42:31,875 --> 01:42:33,917 ♪ I'd be under the impression ♪ 1935 01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:35,750 ♪ I was somewhere in between ♪ 1936 01:42:35,834 --> 01:42:37,959 ♪ With only two, just me and you ♪ 1937 01:42:38,410 --> 01:42:40,458 ♪ Not so many things we got to do ♪ 1938 01:42:40,542 --> 01:42:42,291 ♪ Or places we got to be ♪ 1939 01:42:42,375 --> 01:42:45,834 ♪ We'll sit beneath the mango tree ♪ 1940 01:42:45,917 --> 01:42:49,250 ♪ Yeah, it's always better when we're together ♪ 1941 01:42:49,333 --> 01:42:53,417 ♪ I'll tell you one thing, it's always better when were together ♪ 1942 01:42:53,500 --> 01:42:56,500 ♪ Ooh, it's always better when we're... ♪ 1943 01:42:56,583 --> 01:42:58,166 Janet After Todd died, 1944 01:42:58,250 --> 01:43:00,417 Kelly said to me, "You realize now 1945 01:43:00,500 --> 01:43:03,750 the only person you could ever really date is Pat." 1946 01:43:03,834 --> 01:43:05,875 And I remember thinking, 1947 01:43:05,959 --> 01:43:07,583 "So weird, he's like my brother." 1948 01:43:07,667 --> 01:43:09,830 You know? "It's Pat." 1949 01:43:11,625 --> 01:43:13,750 Janet and I were such close friends, 1950 01:43:13,834 --> 01:43:15,750 it's like from one of those romantic comedies. 1951 01:43:15,834 --> 01:43:17,875 Like, "Why doesn't this guy just kiss the chick?" 1952 01:43:17,959 --> 01:43:19,834 We were living together as roommates, 1953 01:43:19,917 --> 01:43:23,166 and I came home one night, and he told me how he felt. 1954 01:43:23,250 --> 01:43:27,410 "Hey, Janet, you know, we've been friends for a long time. 1955 01:43:28,875 --> 01:43:32,410 "Y-Yeah." You know? Like, "What do you think?" 1956 01:43:32,125 --> 01:43:35,917 Whoa. Didn't see that coming. 1957 01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,410 And at first it was a little weird, 1958 01:43:38,125 --> 01:43:39,959 but it just felt right. 1959 01:43:42,830 --> 01:43:44,625 The only person Todd... 1960 01:43:44,709 --> 01:43:47,959 would have felt comfortable with me being with is Pat. 1961 01:43:48,410 --> 01:43:51,125 Sometimes I think he was up there kinda... 1962 01:43:51,208 --> 01:43:53,542 orchestrating it, probably telling the guys 1963 01:43:53,625 --> 01:43:55,410 to threaten the other guys away. 1964 01:44:00,333 --> 01:44:03,000 Hearing some of the speeches at our wedding, 1965 01:44:03,830 --> 01:44:05,959 I kinda started to put it together. 1966 01:44:06,410 --> 01:44:08,375 I was like, "OK... 1967 01:44:08,458 --> 01:44:10,333 They all knew what they were doing." 1968 01:44:10,417 --> 01:44:13,500 It was just so perfect that her and Pat got together. 1969 01:44:13,583 --> 01:44:15,417 I mean, I gotta pinch myself sometimes. 1970 01:44:15,500 --> 01:44:18,667 That's like Todd's spirit coming through. 1971 01:45:11,830 --> 01:45:14,917 ♪ Look for me in the tides ♪ 1972 01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:18,291 ♪ And it's all right ♪ 1973 01:45:33,417 --> 01:45:35,625 ♪ Set me free ♪ 1974 01:45:35,709 --> 01:45:41,667 ♪ In the tides and fade away ♪ 1975 01:45:41,750 --> 01:45:44,166 ♪ Set me free ♪ 1976 01:45:44,250 --> 01:45:49,208 ♪ In the tides and fade away ♪ 147264

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